:00:12. > :00:13.Hello, this is Tuesday in Parliament,
:00:14. > :00:20.The International Development Secretary says more will be done to
:00:21. > :00:30.help rescue refugees in the Mediterranean.
:00:31. > :00:34.The UK will as of Thursday be deploying a new ship in the
:00:35. > :00:37.Mediterranean. Police chiefs express concern over
:00:38. > :00:42.the new way forces will be funded. And remembering the death of another
:00:43. > :00:55.MP, who died in World War I. Britain is to send
:00:56. > :01:03.a new ship to help rescue refugees The VOS Grace will be deployed
:01:04. > :01:06.on Thursday, Justine Greening announced, in answer to an urgent
:01:07. > :01:09.question on the migrant crisis. Migrants -
:01:10. > :01:11.mainly those fleeing the conflict in Syria - continue to try to cross
:01:12. > :01:14.into Europe, even though winter is starting to set in, and their
:01:15. > :01:17.predicament has become even worse. In October this year,
:01:18. > :01:19.more than 218,000 refugees crossed the Mediterranean -
:01:20. > :01:21.more than in the whole of 2014. The International Development
:01:22. > :01:34.Secretary said the UK could be proud Having been in touch with Frontex to
:01:35. > :01:38.offer further support the UK will as of Thursday be deploying a new ship
:01:39. > :01:41.to help provide search and rescue We have now had that
:01:42. > :01:45.request accepted. VOS Grace will be part
:01:46. > :01:49.of that effort which I think is good news and it's worth reflecting that
:01:50. > :01:53.the support already from the UK in relation to border force cutters
:01:54. > :01:56.and Royal Navy ships have saved We are simply not doing enough
:01:57. > :02:06.and too many people are dying. On Europe's soil and off Europe's
:02:07. > :02:12.shores. I've stood on the north shore
:02:13. > :02:15.in Lesbos and watched The smugglers are giving discounts
:02:16. > :02:21.when the weather is worse so more people are arriving and
:02:22. > :02:26.although there is valiant work being done by the residents and volunteers
:02:27. > :02:34.on the island there is simply not There
:02:35. > :02:52.isn't enough shelter and support. There isn't enough blankets, enough
:02:53. > :02:54.basic sanitation, toilets, taps. I was told they were worried
:02:55. > :02:56.about cholera. This is what Save
:02:57. > :02:58.the Children said yesterday. Minutes later we found three young
:02:59. > :03:05.men unconscious with hypothermia, forced to sleep for three days
:03:06. > :03:08.in a field to queue for papers. There were no toilets
:03:09. > :03:10.for those queueing so there were faeces mixed in the
:03:11. > :03:13.flowing streams of drinking water. But this is in Europe
:03:14. > :03:15.so we are all failing. All of us need to make sure
:03:16. > :03:19.that there is action now. I think we can be proud
:03:20. > :03:23.as a country of the work we have done to help people affected by this
:03:24. > :03:27.crisis in Syria but also latterly as That is not just the work I talked
:03:28. > :03:32.about in relation to saving lives We have provided asylum
:03:33. > :03:37.for thousands of people and of course as I have just set out we are
:03:38. > :03:41.helping very actively on the ground She's announced
:03:42. > :03:53.a further 5 million emergency funds and we will be deploying
:03:54. > :03:58.a new ship but what action will the British Government and EU partners
:03:59. > :04:00.take to tackle the increasing The Government has promised to
:04:01. > :04:06.resettle 4,000 refugees this year Can we have a progress check
:04:07. > :04:11.on this? Are there any plans to increase
:04:12. > :04:17.the number? And will the Secretary of State
:04:18. > :04:19.recognise that while the Government is to be commended for the money
:04:20. > :04:23.that has been spent on the camps in Syria that we are seeing a crisis
:04:24. > :04:32.unfolding in Greece and the Balkans which shames the European family
:04:33. > :04:35.of nations. That country has been the leading edge of providing
:04:36. > :04:51.support to people affected by this crisis but it is important that when
:04:52. > :04:54.we see people arrive on We talk today
:04:55. > :05:03.about symptoms. The real cause as
:05:04. > :05:06.the Minister knows full well is the fact that 11 million Syrian people
:05:07. > :05:09.have had to flee their homes. What's
:05:10. > :05:12.the Government doing to stop the The brutality
:05:13. > :05:17.of the fact that 250,000 people have already died and many more will do
:05:18. > :05:21.as a result of Russian air strikes What are we doing about safety,
:05:22. > :05:24.safe havens, humanitarian corridors, protection
:05:25. > :05:26.of the population inside Syria? So that we can get to people
:05:27. > :05:28.inside Syria many of our cross border supplies are
:05:29. > :05:31.going into the country from Turkey and it took us over two years to
:05:32. > :05:34.get a UN Security Council resolution In terms of the way forward first
:05:35. > :05:39.of all the action by the Russians is simply taking us further away
:05:40. > :05:42.from being able to reach But of course,
:05:43. > :05:48.as we have set out as a Government, more action needs to be taken
:05:49. > :05:51.against Isil, which of course is up also perpetrating huge atrocities
:05:52. > :06:02.on the Syrian people now as well. Senior police officers
:06:03. > :06:09.and policing commissioners have been giving their reaction to
:06:10. > :06:12.a new policing funding formula to One of the police
:06:13. > :06:15.and crime commissioners who gave evidence is among those threatening
:06:16. > :06:17.legal action over the proposals. Witnesses discussed with MPs
:06:18. > :06:22.their concerns for the future of bobbies on the beat and
:06:23. > :06:34.which other services could survive. You use the word madness
:06:35. > :06:36.in respect of the proposed cuts. Normally don't expect
:06:37. > :06:40.the chief constables to be using And in your letter to me I think you
:06:41. > :06:49.said there are serious There is serious financial
:06:50. > :06:52.turbulence and a risk to forces. Will you stand
:06:53. > :06:54.by the statements that you made? You've given us I am sure
:06:55. > :07:02.a justified, pessimistic scenario Can I ask you first
:07:03. > :07:09.of all can we work from the assumption that bobbies
:07:10. > :07:14.on the beat is coming to an end? What I am referring to is routine
:07:15. > :07:18.patrolling that you are familiar with from when you started
:07:19. > :07:21.your police careers I am sure. Targeted patrols will always
:07:22. > :07:26.be part of what we do. There is some evidence
:07:27. > :07:29.that it works. The level of coverage will
:07:30. > :07:32.become less numerous. I started on the beat in the
:07:33. > :07:34.West Midlands, I think the people we will
:07:35. > :07:42.have covering geographical areas will reduce because
:07:43. > :07:44.there are simply less of us. We will need to be accessible
:07:45. > :07:46.in different ways It has been argued that
:07:47. > :08:00.Bedfordshire Police is the worst I inherited a force that has decided
:08:01. > :08:04.to strip all warranted officers out So I listen to debating
:08:05. > :08:19.about whether bobbies on the beat have a future with interest
:08:20. > :08:24.because in Bedfordshire I think we are further
:08:25. > :08:29.down the path of where policing is going and my colleagues will be
:08:30. > :08:31.following us very shortly. As we cut and cut
:08:32. > :08:34.and numbers are reduced and reduced it is the community policing, the
:08:35. > :08:36.problem-solving, the preventative And then you all you are left with
:08:37. > :08:40.is a sticking plaster model where the
:08:41. > :08:43.police turn up after the event and go after the offender but there's no
:08:44. > :08:46.work to try and stop that bad thing Tony Hogg was one of those whose
:08:47. > :08:50.letter to the Home Office Minister Mike Penning about the funding
:08:51. > :08:57.plans got into the public domain. I would like to have
:08:58. > :09:00.on record that we regret that this We wanted to put
:09:01. > :09:09.a responsible thing. To answer
:09:10. > :09:11.your question I think there are One is the consultation period which
:09:12. > :09:16.we believe doesn't meet the normal. When you say the letter is leaked,
:09:17. > :09:19.Clive Grunshaw, the Commissioner for Cumbria, was
:09:20. > :09:22.on Victoria Derbyshire this morning Yes but before that there was an
:09:23. > :09:31.article that alluded to it in the And it's crept into more
:09:32. > :09:38.visibility than we would wish. You're watching Tuesday
:09:39. > :09:40.in Parliament. Britain is to send a new ship to
:09:41. > :09:43.support efforts to rescue Still to come -
:09:44. > :09:54.MSPs in Holyrood debate Trident. A Conservative former minister says
:09:55. > :09:57.the Prime Minister is "purging" Eurosceptics from the UK's
:09:58. > :09:59.delegation to the Council of Europe. The council was set up in 1949 and
:10:00. > :10:06.is Europe's oldest political body. It aims to uphold human rights,
:10:07. > :10:09.democracy and the rule The Council has
:10:10. > :10:17.a parliamentary assembly made up of 630 delegates from the member states
:10:18. > :10:20.- and Britain sends 18 politicians Until recently, the Conservative MP,
:10:21. > :10:26.Christopher Chope was one of them. He asked an urgent question
:10:27. > :10:28.about how the decision was made to re-appoint
:10:29. > :10:35.members of the UK delegation. The minister paid tribute to
:10:36. > :10:37.Mr Chope's work for He will know that decisions
:10:38. > :10:43.about appointments to the delegation is a matter for
:10:44. > :10:45.the different political parties. And that places on the delegation
:10:46. > :10:48.are allocated in proportion to Normally decisions are taken through
:10:49. > :10:54.the usual channels and are approved by the leaders of the parties
:10:55. > :11:11.represented on the delegation. I appreciate my honourable friend's
:11:12. > :11:14.disappointment with the changes for the delegation in this Parliament
:11:15. > :11:17.but I am sure he will take advantage of the extra time he has to spend in
:11:18. > :11:21.the chamber by making more of his pithy and perceptive
:11:22. > :11:23.contributions to debate. It is most reassuring to have
:11:24. > :11:24.confirmation from my honourable friend that
:11:25. > :11:27.the issue of reappointment was not Why won't she confirm that the real
:11:28. > :11:31.reason why three independently former ministers are being purged is
:11:32. > :11:36.because we voted in favour of a free and fair EU referendum with a strict
:11:37. > :11:39.28 day purdah period, as recommended by the Council of
:11:40. > :11:41.Europe's Venice Commission as well I do not understand why the Leader
:11:42. > :11:57.of the House has not come here. I would suggest that the deputy
:11:58. > :12:00.leader here considers the position I'm afraid the Prime Minister
:12:01. > :12:05.should be ashamed of himself. My honourable friend is right to pay
:12:06. > :12:08.tribute to our honourable friend from Christchurch for the work that
:12:09. > :12:13.he has done on the Council of Europe but I do put again the fact that
:12:14. > :12:16.there are new people on the council of Europe as happened five years
:12:17. > :12:25.ago. And as a consequence I don't The Ministerial Code sets out
:12:26. > :12:28.the standards expected of Government ministers
:12:29. > :12:31.when they carry out their duties. But it's just been re-written -
:12:32. > :12:33.and the latest version This new version omits any explicit
:12:34. > :12:39.mention of the duty of Ministers to Some commentators have asked
:12:40. > :12:48.if this means the Government can ignore international law on,
:12:49. > :12:50.for instance, drone strikes. The minister - answering
:12:51. > :12:53.a question from Labour's Lord Dubs - said the code was normally updated
:12:54. > :12:59.after a general election. The updated code makes clear that
:13:00. > :13:02.ministers must abide by the law. The obligations on ministers under
:13:03. > :13:05.the law, including international It's somewhat puzzling
:13:06. > :13:14.for the Government to make a change in the code, quite a significant
:13:15. > :13:17.change, and for the Minister to say Some of us wonder why the change has
:13:18. > :13:22.been made at all, and the Minister wouldn't have had to answer this
:13:23. > :13:25.question and others on this. Surely
:13:26. > :13:29.as an annex to the Ministerial Code there are seven principles of public
:13:30. > :13:35.life, one of which is openness. If Government ministers have to
:13:36. > :13:38.show openness, why can't the The Government is showing openness -
:13:39. > :13:47.the Ministerial Code is available It's normal for there to be
:13:48. > :13:52.a variation of the Ministerial Code just as there is from time to time
:13:53. > :13:55.with the Civil Service Code. By Lords, if the former AG,
:13:56. > :13:57.if journalists, if campaigners, senior lawyers, ex-ministers,
:13:58. > :14:01.ex-civil servants and academics think this change is
:14:02. > :14:06.wrong, is it possible that they are And could the Government explain why
:14:07. > :14:15.they I think sneaked this change, and a change to the code
:14:16. > :14:18.for special advisers, why they sneaked it through rather than
:14:19. > :14:24.by a proper statement in the House? There's no question of sneaking
:14:25. > :14:27.in through, it has been available since 15th
:14:28. > :14:33.October 2015, and this is the second time in a week in which I have
:14:34. > :14:36.answered questions at the dispatch At the weekend, Scottish Labour
:14:37. > :14:42.Party delegates backed a vote to scrap the UK's Trident nuclear
:14:43. > :14:45.missile system, which is based at It means
:14:46. > :14:49.the Labour party now holds different positions on the issue north
:14:50. > :14:52.and south of the border - although the party's UK leader Jeremy Corbyn
:14:53. > :14:55.supports not renewing the system. The Scottish government's
:14:56. > :14:57.Infrastructure Secretary began a debate at the Scottish
:14:58. > :14:58.Parliament, entitled Trident:
:14:59. > :15:14.Welfare or Warfare? The Scottish Government has sought a
:15:15. > :15:20.further debate for a number of reasons. Firstly, further analysis
:15:21. > :15:26.suggests a dramatic increase in estimates on the total potential
:15:27. > :15:28.cost to the UK Government's proposed successive programme.
:15:29. > :15:32.Secondly there is the potential that the UK Government may be considering
:15:33. > :15:35.bringing forward the main gate investment decision to take place
:15:36. > :15:41.before Christmas. Finally in addition to our opposition to the
:15:42. > :15:44.possession of nuclear weapons, it remains our view that it is wrong
:15:45. > :15:48.for the UK Government to work towards the replacement of Trident
:15:49. > :15:52.while implementing welfare cuts impacting on the most vulnerable
:15:53. > :15:56.people in our society. My position of course and that of the Scottish
:15:57. > :16:03.Government is that the possession of nuclear weapons cannot be justified
:16:04. > :16:07.at any cost, whether at ?1 or ?167 billion. I suppose the question for
:16:08. > :16:11.those who still support by nuclear weapons at this cost is at what
:16:12. > :16:16.price do they say is too expensive? Have the parties enable debate and
:16:17. > :16:23.are prepared to reflect that position. I have always said that
:16:24. > :16:27.the debate on Trident is complex, and I outlined the arguments for and
:16:28. > :16:33.against a few weeks back in a members proposed debates. While I do
:16:34. > :16:40.respect the views -- I do respect the views and arguments. The
:16:41. > :16:43.arguments opposing the view of Trident won the day on Sunday,
:16:44. > :16:47.because they represented a strong case for Trident renewal being the
:16:48. > :16:51.wrong case at the wrong time. There was also a strong fundamental
:16:52. > :16:56.argument against nuclear weapons. These are weapons which if used
:16:57. > :17:00.would cost unimaginable destruction and death. I can be no justification
:17:01. > :17:05.for deploying them. We all want a world without nuclear
:17:06. > :17:11.weapons, but the SNP has failed to explain why nuclear -- unilateral
:17:12. > :17:16.disarmament would achieve this. What evidence is there that if we get rid
:17:17. > :17:22.of our weapons, others will get rid of those? If the SNP is using
:17:23. > :17:24.Trident as a cynical political football, the Labour Party cannot
:17:25. > :17:36.decide what their position actually is. Their leader is not backed by
:17:37. > :17:43.their own party. The SNP's position on Trident is cynical, the Labour
:17:44. > :17:47.Party's motion is simply muddled. As long as the UK or an independent
:17:48. > :17:52.Scottish Government remains part of Nato, they will continue to be
:17:53. > :17:57.required to support directly and indirectly nuclear weapons systems
:17:58. > :18:03.being used and -- in and around Scotland. The reality of the matter
:18:04. > :18:04.is that Nato alliance is a cardboard relic, not suited to the realities
:18:05. > :18:07.of modern day security threats. Labour MSP Jackie Baillie,
:18:08. > :18:09.whose constituency includes Faslane, said there were 6,800 people
:18:10. > :18:11.employed there by the Ministry of Defence and contractors, with
:18:12. > :18:14.thousands more linked to the base. She opposed Labour's Trident
:18:15. > :18:26.resolution. They will come as no surprise I
:18:27. > :18:30.believe in multilateral nuclear disarmament, I want all nations to
:18:31. > :18:35.give up their weapons because my ambition is nothing short of global
:18:36. > :18:40.zero. I believe that is an ambition shared by the majority of people in
:18:41. > :18:45.this chamber. Where we disagree, is in the mechanism that we actually
:18:46. > :18:49.achieve that. I know some opposed to Trident argue we are unilaterally
:18:50. > :18:54.the army and cite the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and I
:18:55. > :18:57.respect that, but it doesn't reflect what is happening outside the UK.
:18:58. > :18:59.At decision time MSPs backed the motion AGAINST the renewal
:19:00. > :19:03.of Trident - with 96 MSPs for it and 17 against.
:19:04. > :19:06.Now, the Government has been warned that its plan to bring forward
:19:07. > :19:08.a British Bill of Rights could undermine devolution in Scotland,
:19:09. > :19:16.The Conservatives have pledged to abolish and replace the
:19:17. > :19:18.Human Rights Act - breaking the link between the courts here and
:19:19. > :19:23.We will bring forward proposals for a British Bill
:19:24. > :19:26.of Rights to replace the Human Rights Act later this autumn.
:19:27. > :19:29.Preparations are going well, and we look forward to consulting
:19:30. > :19:32.widely, including with the devolved administrations.
:19:33. > :19:35.I thank the Minister for his condolences to the tragic
:19:36. > :19:41.I think the whole thoughts of the Chamber are with
:19:42. > :19:50.In terms of my question, human rights as the Minister will know are
:19:51. > :19:53.not reserved as part of schedule 5 of the Scotland Act, therefore the
:19:54. > :19:56.Human Rights Act cannot be repealed and replaced with a Bill of Rights
:19:57. > :19:58.without the legislative consent of the Scottish Parliament -
:19:59. > :20:01.something the First Minister of Scotland has said is
:20:02. > :20:05.With that in mind, why is the Government wasting money pursuing
:20:06. > :20:11.I thank him for his question but I am afraid that is not quite right.
:20:12. > :20:14.Revising the Human Rights Act can only be done by the UK Government.
:20:15. > :20:17.Of course the implementation of human rights in a wide range
:20:18. > :20:20.of areas are already devolved to Scotland, and I would urge him
:20:21. > :20:31.Given the constitutional importance of this issue,
:20:32. > :20:33.will my honourable friend confirm that the consultation will result
:20:34. > :20:36.in a draft Bill that will be subject to full pre-legislative scrutiny
:20:37. > :20:40.Well, I thank the Chairman of the Justice Select Committee.
:20:41. > :20:43.We will be engaging in full consultation; I hope he doesn't
:20:44. > :20:48.mind if I don't trail the precise terms of it at this point in time.
:20:49. > :20:56.The Human Rights Act as we have heard is fundamental to
:20:57. > :20:59.devolution in Scotland, and there are different legal views about how
:21:00. > :21:05.The Act is also fundamental to Wales, and it is the cornerstone
:21:06. > :21:09.of the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland.
:21:10. > :21:12.Will the Government recognise that abandoning the Human Rights Act
:21:13. > :21:18.may have consequences which they had initially not thought of?
:21:19. > :21:23.Well, one of the reasons why we have engaged in consultation
:21:24. > :21:27.and engaged in a pause at this stage is precisely so we can work through
:21:28. > :21:31.Just in relation to Scotland, which he raises specifically,
:21:32. > :21:35.he will know I'm sure that through 2014 and 2015 YouGov polling showed
:21:36. > :21:37.consistent Scottish support for a Bill of Rights to replace
:21:38. > :21:43.In 2011 on the specific question, YouGov found that 61% of Scots
:21:44. > :21:51.wanted to see the UK's Supreme Court and this Parliament rather than
:21:52. > :21:53.the European Court of Human Rights in this country and across Britain.
:21:54. > :21:58.Can I remind my honourable friend that it was
:21:59. > :22:01.the English Parliament that brought in the Bill of Rights in 1688,
:22:02. > :22:04.and it was the British Parliament that brought in the Human Rights Act
:22:05. > :22:07.And like so much legislation at that time,
:22:08. > :22:18.So will he not listen to the people opposite, and get on with it?!
:22:19. > :22:21.Well, I thank my honourable friend, he expresses himself in the usual
:22:22. > :22:26.It's true the Conservatives have a long tradition of upholding
:22:27. > :22:30.We want to protect and strengthen that tradition, but we also want to
:22:31. > :22:35.We want this place to have the last word on where the bar is set
:22:36. > :22:38.for human rights, and we want the Supreme Court to be the ultimate
:22:39. > :22:44.As fog enveloped the City of London, one Labour MP has used
:22:45. > :22:47.a Westminster Hall debate to call for piercing the blanket of mist
:22:48. > :22:54.Stephen Pound told MPs that the National Fraud Authority
:22:55. > :23:00.reckoned ?52 billion was lost to the economy each year through
:23:01. > :23:03.fraud - and he wanted to see some kind of corporate criminal liability
:23:04. > :23:09.for offences such as fraud and money laundering.
:23:10. > :23:16.As the fog lifts from our city, I intend today to cut through some of
:23:17. > :23:20.the fog around Government policy in the area of prosecuting economic
:23:21. > :23:24.crime, and I have every confidence that the Minister will be able to
:23:25. > :23:26.eliminate the stark part of the legislative process.
:23:27. > :23:28.The MP was worried that the government was going cold
:23:29. > :23:34.on its promise to tackle corporate economic crime.
:23:35. > :23:40.Current corporate liability law is based upon the identification
:23:41. > :23:46.principle. The prosecutor must show that a person who is the direct link
:23:47. > :23:49.or controlling mind of the party -- company intended to commit or have
:23:50. > :23:53.knowledge of a criminal act. This requires identifying somebody at the
:23:54. > :23:58.most senior level as being responsible. In the context of the
:23:59. > :24:03.modern globalised world we now live in, where companies span numerous
:24:04. > :24:07.borders and jurisdictions, this is no small task and virtually
:24:08. > :24:11.impossible. I hope the Minister will be able to stand up to date proudly
:24:12. > :24:14.say the option of introducing a criminal offence for failing to
:24:15. > :24:19.prevent economic crime is still on the Government's agenda. I hope the
:24:20. > :24:25.Minister will be able to provide that reassurance today, because
:24:26. > :24:29.after the events of 2007, 2008 and everything that has followed, the
:24:30. > :24:31.public has a right to expect that those who commit white-collar crime
:24:32. > :24:33.are brought to justice. The minister offered no promise to
:24:34. > :24:35.change the law on corporate criminality
:24:36. > :24:44.but he did acknowledge the problem. There have been many other
:24:45. > :24:47.assertions made, the evidential threshold is too high and it makes
:24:48. > :24:53.it easier to prosecute smaller businesses, and particularly
:24:54. > :24:59.difficult to come -- prosecute complex multinational corporations.
:25:00. > :25:03.All these problems are inherent in trying to enforce the regulations in
:25:04. > :25:05.the sector, what we certainly don't want to see the small businesses
:25:06. > :25:08.hammered while the big ones go scot-free. -- what we certainly
:25:09. > :25:10.don't. And finally - 22 MPs and 20 Peers
:25:11. > :25:13.died in service in the four years of World War I - and Parliament is
:25:14. > :25:17.marking the centenary of the war. The name
:25:18. > :25:19.of every Mp killed is printed on the order paper on the anniversary
:25:20. > :25:22.of their death - and the Speaker marks the occasion in the chamber at
:25:23. > :25:38.the start of the parliamentary day. One third of November 1915, left ten
:25:39. > :25:44.at the honourable William Lionel Charles will rot, well transport
:25:45. > :25:49.officer in the Army service Corps, member for the Tiverton division of
:25:50. > :25:54.Devon, died in Scotland of consumption contracted while on
:25:55. > :25:57.service entrance. We remember him today.
:25:58. > :26:03.I'll be here for the rest of the week so from me,