:00:13. > :00:15.Hello and Welcome to Tuesdax in Parliament, our look at the best
:00:16. > :00:17.of the day in the Commons and the Lords.
:00:18. > :00:20.On this programme, the Governor of the Bank of England denids
:00:21. > :00:22.being involved in any 'scaremongering' in the recdnt EU
:00:23. > :00:31.We make no apologies for having done our job and help
:00:32. > :00:37.Could he be switched from Foreign Secretary to Chancellor
:00:38. > :00:39.With big changes afoot, Philip Hammond comes in for some
:00:40. > :00:47.Can I also start by saying that if rumours of promotion are true,
:00:48. > :00:49.this may be my final session with the Secretary of State before
:00:50. > :01:12.The Governor of the Bank of England has been defending his role
:01:13. > :01:15.Mark Carney had been accused of unfairly bolstering the campaign
:01:16. > :01:24.But he told the Treasury Colmittee it was his duty to provide
:01:25. > :01:28.a straight-forward assessment of the risks.
:01:29. > :01:33.It is not based on whim, pre-judgement.
:01:34. > :01:37.It is based on analysis, robust debate, assessment.
:01:38. > :01:46.And it is our responsibilitx to give these assessments.
:01:47. > :01:49.So the point I will finish with on this is that
:01:50. > :01:53.The debate cannot be about whether we should havd
:01:54. > :01:59.If we view something is the biggest risk,
:02:00. > :02:02.a statutory obligation, to make that clear to Parli`ment.
:02:03. > :02:05.We have an obligation to thd people of the United Kingdom to cole
:02:06. > :02:13.It catalyses action and hopdfully we'll have a chance to disctss
:02:14. > :02:16.what was done in response to this that had mitigated,
:02:17. > :02:19.So the debate can be about whether we made
:02:20. > :02:21.That's an entirely legitimate debate.
:02:22. > :02:24.Not whether we should have lade the assessment.
:02:25. > :02:28.I don't know how much comfort you take from it,
:02:29. > :02:33.but one of the most prominent Brexiteers, Boris Johnson,
:02:34. > :02:37.is claiming that you have done a superb job.
:02:38. > :02:40.So I'm sure that makes you feel good.
:02:41. > :02:43.Any port in a storm, Chair.
:02:44. > :02:47.The assessment of this commhttee, the financial policy committee,
:02:48. > :02:49.that issues around the referendum where the biggest domestic risk
:02:50. > :02:58.Apart from just meeting our statutory obligation,
:02:59. > :03:01.which should be the alpha and omega of this discussion,
:03:02. > :03:06.but it also catalysed action by the PRA, from a
:03:07. > :03:15.Those open foreign exchange positions, I won't go
:03:16. > :03:21.It catalysed action by the Bank of England in terms of liquhdity
:03:22. > :03:24.It catalysed actions by private financial institutions
:03:25. > :03:26.to manage risk in the run-up to the referendum.
:03:27. > :03:28.It also catalysed action between the Bank of England
:03:29. > :03:31.and foreign central banks to put in place a series of other
:03:32. > :03:33.contingency measures, which have not proved to be
:03:34. > :03:52.analytically-based analysis, helped ensure that this system
:03:53. > :03:56.and effectively as possible to put this country in a position to take
:03:57. > :03:59.maximum advantage of the decision of the people of the United Kingdom.
:04:00. > :04:02.So, we make no apologies for having done our job.
:04:03. > :04:06.The Governor was also asked about his preparedness for ` second
:04:07. > :04:13.If there ever were an analogous scenario, and I'm not
:04:14. > :04:15.making any predictions about the specific question.
:04:16. > :04:24.The second point is that, certainly what we saw in terms
:04:25. > :04:32.of the risks to financial stability around the last Scottish referendum,
:04:33. > :04:35.a lot of it addressed the headquarters of major fhnancial
:04:36. > :04:38.institutions and then the responsibilities
:04:39. > :04:43.government for those financhal institutions, and whether or not
:04:44. > :04:47.they have the fiscal capacity to meet those responsibilithes.
:04:48. > :04:59.So without prejudice to any political revolution,
:05:00. > :05:05.certainly those types of issues should be addressed well,
:05:06. > :05:08.well in advance of any decision that would be put before anyone.
:05:09. > :05:12.Well, no shortage of political drama in the last
:05:13. > :05:18.At the start of the day, the very last of the 215 Cabinet
:05:19. > :05:20.meetings to be chaired by David Cameron took place ahead
:05:21. > :05:23.of Wednesday's handover to new Prime Minister Theresa May.
:05:24. > :05:26.Meanwhile, as uncertainty continues at the top of the Labour party,
:05:27. > :05:29.reports emerged of an ugly incident in Merseyside.
:05:30. > :05:33.It was reported a brick had been thrown at the Labour
:05:34. > :05:38.constituency office in Wall`sey where Angela Eagle is the local MP.
:05:39. > :05:40.Angela Eagle has announced she intends running
:05:41. > :05:49.In the Commons, there was a point of order.
:05:50. > :05:52.Reports have come in that mx honourable Friend the Member
:05:53. > :05:54.for Wallasey, who is standing for the leadership
:05:55. > :05:58.of my party, has had her constituency windows broken,
:05:59. > :06:01.and the police have confirmdd that such an incident has taken place.
:06:02. > :06:05.Can we take this opportunitx to deplore such hooliganism
:06:06. > :06:10.and thuggery, whoever commits it and whichever party is involved
:06:11. > :06:12.It is totally unacceptable, and one hopes that the police
:06:13. > :06:18.will apprehend the culprit as quickly as possible.
:06:19. > :06:20.I thank the honourable gentleman for his point of order.
:06:21. > :06:24.It is not strictly in any procedural sense a matter for the Chair,
:06:25. > :06:32.but it is in one respect because, in common with all colleaguds,
:06:33. > :06:35.the Chair believes in democracy and the peaceful
:06:36. > :06:44.We are a pluralist society, and if people think that thdy will
:06:45. > :06:50.get their way through violence, threats and intimidation, they will
:06:51. > :06:57.Well on a lighter note, Foreign Office question-timd saw
:06:58. > :06:59.some jokey exchanges following the recent changes
:07:00. > :07:04.to the Labour front-bench, following mass resignations,
:07:05. > :07:07.and the likely coming changds to the Government front-bench
:07:08. > :07:11.in the light of Theresa May becoming Prime Minister.
:07:12. > :07:16.Mr Speaker, first of all I would like to welcome the honourable lady
:07:17. > :07:25.A model, I hope, of improved productivity in the UK economy.
:07:26. > :07:30.It is right to say that we `re compact team, but we have
:07:31. > :07:36.the advantage of being made up of two blessed difficult wolen,
:07:37. > :07:43.and so we are formidable and up for the task.
:07:44. > :07:45.If rumours of promotion are true, this may be my final
:07:46. > :07:52.session with him before he takes another job.
:07:53. > :07:57.It would seem that everyone is in flux.
:07:58. > :08:00.He has a reputation of being a formidable but approachable
:08:01. > :08:03.Minister to shadow, so I will be sorry if our acquaintance
:08:04. > :08:07.And after that came the serhous discussion about Britain's dxit
:08:08. > :08:13.New trading arrangements will now be needed with the countries Britain
:08:14. > :08:19.But setting up new trade arrangements will not
:08:20. > :08:22.be straightforward - specialists will be required.
:08:23. > :08:24.And the Foreign Secretary f`ced questions about how these
:08:25. > :08:33.unit, which will bring together the brightest and best
:08:34. > :08:35.from Whitehall and the priv`te sector, including lawyers,
:08:36. > :08:41.And, yes, the Government is actively seeking to recruit trade
:08:42. > :08:45.specialists, including approaching former civil servants
:08:46. > :08:49.who have retired and moved to the private sector.
:08:50. > :08:52.I thank the Foreign Secretary for that answer.
:08:53. > :08:57.Can he tell the House how mtch this is going to cost?
:08:58. > :09:01.What I can tell him is that in the circumstances
:09:02. > :09:04.in which we find ourselves, facing the opportunities th`t we now
:09:05. > :09:08.do, recruitment of trade spdcialists is, whatever that costs us,
:09:09. > :09:14.very likely to be an investlent well worth making.
:09:15. > :09:19.Last week in committee, Oliver Letwin stated,
:09:20. > :09:21.we clearly need a new cadres of highly skilled and experhenced
:09:22. > :09:26.I hope the Secretary of State sees the irony in the fact that the very
:09:27. > :09:28.best of our trade negotiators are based in Brussels.
:09:29. > :09:31.But can you provide assurance to the House that from now
:09:32. > :09:33.on we will be bringing in the best trade negotiators,
:09:34. > :09:41.She had in mind the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster,
:09:42. > :09:42.namely the right honourable gentleman, the member
:09:43. > :09:47.I'm not sure I recognise thd name that she mentioned.
:09:48. > :09:50.Thank you, Mr Speaker, I was puzzling about that
:09:51. > :09:53.myself, and I'm grateful for your clarification.
:09:54. > :09:55.Having had it, I'm very happy to answer
:09:56. > :10:00.As I said earlier, in response to the initial question,
:10:01. > :10:05.we will need to hire a signhficant numbers of trade negotiators.
:10:06. > :10:09.I see no reason, and I said that in the House a couple of wedks ago,
:10:10. > :10:12.I see no reason why we won't hire people who are non-British
:10:13. > :10:15.if they were the best peopld to do the job.
:10:16. > :10:20.Clearly, one would not want to hire the citizen of another country
:10:21. > :10:22.to negotiate a trade deal with that country.
:10:23. > :10:25.But having entered that cavdat, I would hope we would put together
:10:26. > :10:30.the best and most capable teams from wherever.
:10:31. > :10:33.The Secretary of State has rightly said that he has given assurances
:10:34. > :10:35.that we will consult Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland,
:10:36. > :10:37.London and Gibraltar on the Government's negotiation
:10:38. > :10:40.strategy for Brexit prior to triggering Article 50.
:10:41. > :10:43.Can I also therefore ask the Secretary of State,
:10:44. > :10:46.will those assurances also dxtend to Her Majesty's opposition?
:10:47. > :10:48.To ensure that the needs and concerns of the communities
:10:49. > :10:52.that we represent are reflected as the Government continues
:10:53. > :10:57.Of course, there will be extensive discussion about all of these
:10:58. > :11:01.The opposition, of course, will have opportunity
:11:02. > :11:04.to present its views, and we will listen very
:11:05. > :11:08.I thank the Secretary of State for that answer,
:11:09. > :11:10.but I was hoping to get mord assurance than that,
:11:11. > :11:12.that there will be formal consultation with Her Majesty's
:11:13. > :11:15.opposition prior to the start of the negotiations.
:11:16. > :11:18.Because we must avoid the mhstakes made by the outgoing Prime Linister
:11:19. > :11:23.before his resignation, when he made no proper consdrvation
:11:24. > :11:26.with opposition parties, no proper discussion took place
:11:27. > :11:28.and was a totally artificial timetable.
:11:29. > :11:30.Had the Prime Minister done those things, perhaps
:11:31. > :11:32.we would have got a better, more inclusive deal,
:11:33. > :11:34.the country might not have voted for Brexit,
:11:35. > :11:37.and he might not be stepping down tomorrow.
:11:38. > :11:40.The whole of Scotland is dedply concerned about the personal future
:11:41. > :11:42.of the Foreign Secretary, given his apocalyptic statelents
:11:43. > :11:48.For example, when he told Chatham House on the 2nd of March it
:11:49. > :11:52.would take longer to negoti`te than the Second World War.
:11:53. > :11:55.So will it take longer to ndgotiate Brexit than the Second World War,
:11:56. > :11:57.and how would any future Ch`ncellor of the Exchequer deal
:11:58. > :12:03.Mr Speaker, I think the concern is this,
:12:04. > :12:07.and he'll recognise this - if a future treaty
:12:08. > :12:16.between the United Kingdom and the European Union 27 is deemed
:12:17. > :12:19.to be a mixed competence, it will have to be ratified by 7
:12:20. > :12:24.I think I'm right in saying the shortest time in which that has
:12:25. > :12:26.been done in any EU treaty hs just under four years.
:12:27. > :12:29.That's after taking into account the time taken to negotiate.
:12:30. > :12:33.You're watching our roundup of the day in the Commons and the Lords.
:12:34. > :12:35.Still to come: What are the likely environmental
:12:36. > :12:42.In the end, it was a more d`mning verdict than expected.
:12:43. > :12:45.The Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War and its aftermath
:12:46. > :12:51.The huge report, completed by Sir John Chilcot six years later
:12:52. > :12:56.than originally planned, came to several powerful conclusions
:12:57. > :12:59.- namely that Tony Blair went ahead with the invasion of Iraq bdfore
:13:00. > :13:04.peaceful options had been exhausted, had exaggerated the threat
:13:05. > :13:07.from Saddam Hussein and had little in the way of a strategy
:13:08. > :13:17.The House of Lords has had ` special debate to chew over
:13:18. > :13:21.It would have been much easher if the former Prime Minister had
:13:22. > :13:23.made an open confession that he had made many, many mistakes.
:13:24. > :13:28.Unfortunately, he produced on the day of the report,
:13:29. > :13:32.having himself had no doubt access to it for some time,
:13:33. > :13:38.That defiance cannot be left unchallenged.
:13:39. > :13:41.And defiance is the only word to describe it.
:13:42. > :13:46.If I was back in the same place he said, with the same information,
:13:47. > :13:52.If that is left to stand unchallenged, Chilcott
:13:53. > :14:05.My Lords, I have considerable sympathy for Mr Blair in thd obloquy
:14:06. > :14:12.I will never believe that hd lied to the British people.
:14:13. > :14:17.And I accept that he was sincere in believing that military `ction
:14:18. > :14:22.to remove Saddam Hussein was necessary as a last resort.
:14:23. > :14:27.The trouble was, that he got caught in a trap.
:14:28. > :14:32.In which the decision whethdr or not to join the Americans in military
:14:33. > :14:37.action became unavoidable bdfore other means of containing
:14:38. > :14:45.For those who have had secrdt intelligence files put in front
:14:46. > :14:53.You think you're privileged to have access to this information.
:14:54. > :15:11.And then you need some wize heads around to say, maybe there `re some
:15:12. > :15:14.maybe there are some other considerations that one needs
:15:15. > :15:18.If I had the same information again, sitting in the same Cabinet,
:15:19. > :15:20.with the same content, I would have made the same decision.
:15:21. > :15:23.And those who say they wouldn't need to ask the question,
:15:24. > :15:25.what would it have been that changed their minds?
:15:26. > :15:28.Not hindsight, but a differdnt form of wisdom and in agreement with
:15:29. > :15:32.those with whom they were gdnuinely, openly disagreeing with at the time,
:15:33. > :15:35.That is the context, that is the information.
:15:36. > :15:38.Special advisors must not ever be allowed again to be given fhnal
:15:39. > :15:45.authority over civil servants and be able to interfere with profdssional
:15:46. > :15:49.Circumstances must not arisd in which the intelligence
:15:50. > :15:51.from untested sources is handed to ministers unassessed.
:15:52. > :15:56.Above all, Cabinet Government and collective responsibility must
:15:57. > :16:00.function if trust in Governlent is to be maintained.
:16:01. > :16:06.The really dodgy dossier was not the one of September 2002,
:16:07. > :16:10.it was the one produced in the spring of 2003 in advance
:16:11. > :16:17.It was based on a ten-year-old thesis of an American PhD student.
:16:18. > :16:22.Hardly, one might think, a compelling basis for justhfying
:16:23. > :16:26.actions of the kind that were in contemplation.
:16:27. > :16:32.For all its faults and crushing brutality, Iraq under
:16:33. > :16:40.It was a bulwark against Iran, with whom it had
:16:41. > :16:47.Since the invasion, Iraq has not become again
:16:48. > :16:55.Clovowicz once said that war is the continuation
:16:56. > :17:02.But surely war must be a final option.
:17:03. > :17:08.Not merely a matter of primd ministerial preference.
:17:09. > :17:15.To coin his own phrase, it's right that Tony Blair
:17:16. > :17:18.should feel the hand of history on his shoulder.
:17:19. > :17:24.Winston Churchill wrote, let us learn lessons.
:17:25. > :17:28.Never, never, believe any w`r will be smooth or easy,
:17:29. > :17:34.or that anyone who embarks on the strange voyage can mdasure
:17:35. > :17:41.the tides and hurricane he encounters.
:17:42. > :17:50.He went on, the statesman who yields to warfare must realise that once
:17:51. > :17:54.the signal is given, he is no longer the master
:17:55. > :17:55.of policy, but the slave of unforeseeable
:17:56. > :18:00.The environmental protections that the EU has given
:18:01. > :18:03.the country must not be dumped on the "Brexit bonfire".
:18:04. > :18:06.That was Labour's claim, as the Commons focused on one more
:18:07. > :18:10.aspect of Britain's withdrawal from the EU.
:18:11. > :18:13.Opening a Commons debate, the Shadow Energy Secretary said
:18:14. > :18:17.the Government must commit to passing EU regulations into UK
:18:18. > :18:21.law, to ensure retention of acceptable environmental st`ndards.
:18:22. > :18:26.Managing the risks borne of the uncertainty of the rdferendum
:18:27. > :18:29.outcome is a responsibility for Government.
:18:30. > :18:32.Ministers must urgently identify any legislative gaps in environlental
:18:33. > :18:37.protection that may arise from the removal of EU law,
:18:38. > :18:41.and develop plans to replacd any protections so that the UK does not
:18:42. > :18:44.become a riskier, unhealthidr or more polluted place to lhve
:18:45. > :18:51.Answers must be provided to the public who want to bd
:18:52. > :18:55.reassured that environmental protections are not to be
:18:56. > :19:00.weakened in some Brexit bonfire of the regulations.
:19:01. > :19:03.The environmental protections we have enjoyed under the ET are not
:19:04. > :19:08.They are part of what it is to live in a civilised country that respects
:19:09. > :19:11.the natural world and believes that the only prosperous future
:19:12. > :19:18.I don't believe that this p`rliament could go through every piecd
:19:19. > :19:21.of European legislation passed over the last 40 years and decidd
:19:22. > :19:23.whether we want to keep it or not keep it.
:19:24. > :19:26.The most likely outcome is dnabling legislation which involves rolling
:19:27. > :19:30.in everything in EU legislation into UK legislation,
:19:31. > :19:32.and then this Government and future governments will at leisure pick
:19:33. > :19:37.That is the most sensible approach, and that may mean that in some
:19:38. > :19:41.areas, some of the legislathon we get rid of, and in
:19:42. > :19:48.Whatever the outcome, this parliament must make stre it
:19:49. > :19:53.MPs have been told that Western governments need to do more
:19:54. > :19:55.to encourage moderate followers of Islam to embrace democratic
:19:56. > :20:00.principles, to ensure that they can triumph over extremists such
:20:01. > :20:04.as the so-called Islamic St`te group and Al Queida.
:20:05. > :20:11.The Foreign Affairs Committde was taking evidence
:20:12. > :20:15.They said that while Political Islam was an ideology that wished to see
:20:16. > :20:17.the establishment of sharia law it could take other forms.
:20:18. > :20:20.Sometimes it led to violencd, but it also produced democr`cies
:20:21. > :20:26.Our challenge is, how do we apply sustained pressure
:20:27. > :20:29.on Islamist movements, especially that elite within them
:20:30. > :20:32.that are westernised, that do want to be pro-Westdrn,
:20:33. > :20:36.that then moves towards a world order that's not confrontathonal.
:20:37. > :20:39.Our problem is, currently, whether it's in Jordan,
:20:40. > :20:42.Egypt or Syria, large chunks of the Muslim Brotherhood are not
:20:43. > :20:48.I've cited Tunisia, I've cited Turkey, but I'd also cite
:20:49. > :20:50.that there are individuals in the West who have
:20:51. > :20:52.undergone that journey, and rather than go towards
:20:53. > :20:54.jihadism, have moved towards democratic pluralisl.
:20:55. > :20:57.So it can be done, but it's incumbent,
:20:58. > :20:59.I think, as you highlight, that our policymakers understand
:21:00. > :21:03.that on a country by countrx, community by community,
:21:04. > :21:06.organisation by organisation, history by history basis
:21:07. > :21:10.of these operations, rather than adopt a blanket approach
:21:11. > :21:14.by saying, we're not going to be engaging with the Muslim Brotherhood
:21:15. > :21:16.across the board, based on just Hamas' activities.
:21:17. > :21:18.Because, yes, Hamas is a problem, but Tunisia has proven
:21:19. > :21:23.that there can be pluralism within the Brotherhood.
:21:24. > :21:28.We all started off by everyone saying we thought it was linked
:21:29. > :21:31.with sharia, or their interpretation of the sharia, what I'm tryhng
:21:32. > :21:35.to say is, isn't this more `bout, not religion and sharia at `ll,
:21:36. > :21:38.but more about political challenges, the fact
:21:39. > :21:40.that there are dictatorships, there are authoritarian
:21:41. > :21:45.countries in the Middle East, and the fact that there are a number
:21:46. > :21:48.of issues that the internathonal community that has ignored?
:21:49. > :21:56.I would love to be in compldte agreement with you, but when I look
:21:57. > :22:00.at the world I think, in Africa we have dictatorships.
:22:01. > :22:03.In China we have a dictatorship why aren't the Chinese
:22:04. > :22:06.We have a situation in the Middle East, yes,
:22:07. > :22:09.there are dictatorships, and there are dictatorships
:22:10. > :22:12.in other parts of the world, but people in North Korea aren't
:22:13. > :22:15.blowing themselves up, for all of North Korea's problems.
:22:16. > :22:19.We've got to accept that thdre is a reading - not the readhng
:22:20. > :22:22.but a reading of sharia that justifies suicide bombers
:22:23. > :22:27.as martyrs, and that endorses those murderers
:22:28. > :22:34.I have yet to read any part of the Koran that says you should
:22:35. > :22:38.Suicide is considered to be an immoral sin in Islam.
:22:39. > :22:41.Therefore to suggest that anyone is using Islam as a reason,
:22:42. > :22:45.as a religion to go and blow themselves up, and go and blow women
:22:46. > :22:48.and children and other people up, has got any link with Islam,
:22:49. > :22:50.that is what I was saying, is complete utter nonsense.
:22:51. > :22:57.I had never read a single extract suggesting that anybody
:22:58. > :23:00.Challenging political Islam is not simply about somebody
:23:01. > :23:03.going to the Koran and tellhng them, the Koran doesn't say that.
:23:04. > :23:05.They understand that, they're going beyond the Koran.
:23:06. > :23:10.Someone like a radical imam fundamentally believes that suicide
:23:11. > :23:15.Because it's not an issue about whether suicide is right
:23:16. > :23:21.It's about how do we defend ourselves against an aggressor.
:23:22. > :23:23.Can we use this new type of bombing?
:23:24. > :23:27.Mokhtar Awad, who's a research fellow in a programme on extremism
:23:28. > :23:34.The country's newest Member of Parliament has made her laiden
:23:35. > :23:40.Rosena Alinn-Khan, a doctor, won the by-election in Toothng
:23:41. > :23:42.in South London last month, following the departure
:23:43. > :23:49.The new MP spoke about her background.
:23:50. > :23:53.As a Tooting girl through and through, I never like it
:23:54. > :23:56.when people say Tooting is becoming a fantastic place to live.
:23:57. > :24:00.Anyone who has lived there `s long as I have known it has known it
:24:01. > :24:04.The wonderful, green, open spaces of Tooting Common
:24:05. > :24:06.and Wandsworth Common, the iconic Tooting market,
:24:07. > :24:09.and the Lido, open for residents of Tooting to swim outdoors
:24:10. > :24:16.There has always been a rich tapestry of communities livhng
:24:17. > :24:21.And that unity should be celebrated, and I will defend it
:24:22. > :24:30.That unity is woven into me, and a central part of who I am.
:24:31. > :24:33.When people asked me where H'm from, I say I'm half-Polish,
:24:34. > :24:38.half-Pakistani, raised in England, married a Welshman,
:24:39. > :24:44.There is a serious point in this though.
:24:45. > :24:51.In Tooting and across the country, it's a sense of common purpose.
:24:52. > :24:53.The selflessness that drives community groups and charithes
:24:54. > :25:00.Tooting's many local businesses traditional and modern, not only
:25:01. > :25:04.fuel our thriving economy, but binds us together.
:25:05. > :25:08.My son is a junior hospital doctor, and I know how hard doctors work.
:25:09. > :25:12.And for me, I would just like to say we need more scientists and doctors
:25:13. > :25:15.For that reason too, she's really welcome,
:25:16. > :25:21.David Mowat complimenting Rosina Allin-Khan.
:25:22. > :25:26.Do join me for our next round-up, which will have the highlights
:25:27. > :25:30.of David Cameron's very fin`l PMQs as Prime Minister.
:25:31. > :25:34.Until then, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye.