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:00:19. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament.

:00:21. > :00:25.On this programme: What's the future looking like for US-UK relations?

:00:26. > :00:27.Boris Johnson comes in for some mockery over his new policy

:00:28. > :00:42.The Foreign Secretary, in the space on the last few weeks, has gone from

:00:43. > :00:45.not going to New York in case he is mistaken for Mr Trump to saying his

:00:46. > :00:46.key opportunity for the Western world.

:00:47. > :00:49.Not a bit of it, says a former

:00:50. > :00:58.I think this is a terrific opportunity for the civil service,

:00:59. > :01:00.and I haven't often, since I retired, wanted to be back in the

:01:01. > :01:01.civil service, but I do now. And MPs return to the debate over

:01:02. > :01:10.selection in education. We take the children at quite a

:01:11. > :01:13.young age that we think are going to be the most talented musicians and

:01:14. > :01:15.we give them a lead special training so that they can play to the highest

:01:16. > :01:15.standards in the world. But first, a fortnight is a long

:01:16. > :01:18.time in international politics. It's only two weeks since the voters

:01:19. > :01:21.of the United States Donald Trump's victory has prompted

:01:22. > :01:24.a huge volume of comment As he's slowly assembled his

:01:25. > :01:31.new team, the speculation has been intense over what his presidency

:01:32. > :01:33.means for America's relations with the rest of the world,

:01:34. > :01:36.not least with the United Kingdom. Donald Trump tweeted that

:01:37. > :01:40.Ukip's Nigel Farage would be an ideal choice to be Britain's next

:01:41. > :01:44.ambassador to the US, a comment that made for some

:01:45. > :01:48.interesting exchanges at Foreign Office questions,

:01:49. > :01:51.starting with a former Conservative Minister well known

:01:52. > :01:53.for his support for the unsuccessful Although there is no vacancy,

:01:54. > :02:06.would the Foreign Secretary think this is extremely generous

:02:07. > :02:10.of Donald Trump, to suggest who should be our ambassador

:02:11. > :02:16.in the United States, and in that measure of fraternity,

:02:17. > :02:22.might he suggest that the best person to fill the vacancy

:02:23. > :02:26.for the ambassador to the United Kingdom next year

:02:27. > :02:32.would be Hillary Rodham Clinton? Though I suspect the last thing

:02:33. > :02:38.she'd want to do is be associated I think the Right Honourable

:02:39. > :02:44.Gentleman might want to be Well, all right, Mr Speaker,

:02:45. > :02:52.you anticipate what Because, of course,

:02:53. > :02:58.my Right Honourable Friend would be On the other hand,

:02:59. > :03:05.as the House knows full well, we have a first-rate ambassador

:03:06. > :03:07.in Washington, doing a very good job of relating both

:03:08. > :03:10.with the present administration and the administration to be,

:03:11. > :03:13.and there is no Diplomats require diplomacy,

:03:14. > :03:23.and would my Right Honourable Friend agree with me that there should be

:03:24. > :03:27.no place for anyone who expresses inflammatory and what sometimes

:03:28. > :03:30.could be considered to be bordering on racist views in representing

:03:31. > :03:32.this country in discussions I am grateful to my Honourable

:03:33. > :03:39.Friend, and I think he catches the mood of the house,

:03:40. > :03:42.Mr Speaker, and I think we have We have an excellent ambassador

:03:43. > :03:47.in Washington doing a first-rate I think we are all relieved

:03:48. > :03:51.that the Foreign Secretary has In this post-truth world,

:03:52. > :03:56.we might have assumed that he might have been sympathetic,

:03:57. > :03:59.given they had campaigned together But can the Foreign Secretary

:04:00. > :04:08.perhaps outlined to the house his But can the Foreign Secretary

:04:09. > :04:11.perhaps outline to the house his thinking in terms of what he is

:04:12. > :04:14.going to say when he visits the United States of America

:04:15. > :04:19.about our future relations, given that we have always been

:04:20. > :04:22.the conduit between Europe I think my Honourable Friend asks

:04:23. > :04:27.a thoughtful and a very important question, because it is vital

:04:28. > :04:33.that we get our message over about, as I have said to the member

:04:34. > :04:36.opposite, the vital importance of Nato, of free trade

:04:37. > :04:43.and free enterprise, and of the sticking up

:04:44. > :04:46.for the values that I believe unite our two countries,

:04:47. > :04:51.and that is the message that I know that the Prime Minister will be

:04:52. > :04:53.getting across when she goes there, and certainly, it is the message

:04:54. > :04:57.that we will be delivering at all levels from

:04:58. > :04:59.the UK Government. Mr Speaker, as we meet today

:05:00. > :05:02.on the 53rd anniversary of John F Kennedy's death,

:05:03. > :05:05.we have this prospect of a very different president about to enter

:05:06. > :05:08.the White House in just Nevertheless, the Secretary

:05:09. > :05:13.of State said last week, and he has said again today,

:05:14. > :05:16.that this new president is, I quote, "a liberal guy

:05:17. > :05:19.with whom he shares many values". We have, he tells us,

:05:20. > :05:27.and I quote again, "every reason "to be positive

:05:28. > :05:29.about a Trump presidency". So can the Secretary of State tell

:05:30. > :05:32.us what reasons there are to be positive on the attitude

:05:33. > :05:38.of the new president to the issue I think it is vital

:05:39. > :05:49.that we are as positive as we can possibly be

:05:50. > :05:52.about the new administration-elect, and as I have said before

:05:53. > :05:56.to the house, I believe that the US I believe that the UK-US

:05:57. > :05:59.relationship is of vital importance. I think that President-elect Trump

:06:00. > :06:02.is a deal-maker, and when it comes to climate change, when it

:06:03. > :06:05.comes to climate change, this is something that the UK has

:06:06. > :06:08.led on globally. We have had outstanding success,

:06:09. > :06:12.and yes, I am very open with the House, it is something,

:06:13. > :06:16.it is a message we will be taking to the administration to be,

:06:17. > :06:20.that we believe it to be important, we believe it to be in the interests

:06:21. > :06:23.of the United States, Mr Speaker, the reality

:06:24. > :06:28.is that we have a new president who says that climate change

:06:29. > :06:34.is a hoax invented by the Chinese, who has repeatedly promised

:06:35. > :06:37.to scrap the Paris treaty, a president whose top adviser

:06:38. > :06:40.on the environment cause global a president whose top adviser

:06:41. > :06:44.on the environment calls global warming "nothing to worry about",

:06:45. > :06:47.and there is no doubt that this is a hugely dangerous development

:06:48. > :06:50.for the future of our planet, so let me ask the

:06:51. > :06:52.Secretary of State. When the Prime Minister goes to see

:06:53. > :06:55.the new president in January, will she have the moral backbone

:06:56. > :06:58.to tell him that he is wrong on climate change, and that he must

:06:59. > :07:01.not scrap the Paris treaty, and will she lead the world

:07:02. > :07:06.in condemning him if he does? I really must say to the right

:07:07. > :07:18.on the lady that I believe I really must say to the Right

:07:19. > :07:21.Honourable Lady that I believe she is being premature

:07:22. > :07:23.in her hostile judgments of the administration-elect,

:07:24. > :07:25.and any such premature verdict, I believe, could be damaging

:07:26. > :07:27.to the interests of this country. The Foreign Secretary,

:07:28. > :07:30.in the space of the last few weeks, has gone from not going to New York

:07:31. > :07:33.in case he is mistaken for Mr Trump, to saying

:07:34. > :07:35.he is the opportunity for the Western world,

:07:36. > :07:38.which is a political pirouette Can the Foreign Secretary

:07:39. > :07:45.realise what we're dealing with in the new President

:07:46. > :07:48.of the United States, and wouldn't this country's policy

:07:49. > :07:50.be helped by coherence, consistency, and a bit

:07:51. > :07:55.of common sense? I think that what the world needs

:07:56. > :08:00.now is the UK to build on its relations with the United States,

:08:01. > :08:03.which I think most people in this house would axe at our fundamental

:08:04. > :08:12.importance for our security, house would accept

:08:13. > :08:14.are of fundamental and that I have said very candidly

:08:15. > :08:17.to honourable members, those are the three essential points

:08:18. > :08:20.that I will be making to our friends, the vital importance

:08:21. > :08:22.of the transatlantic alliance and of Nato, the importance of free

:08:23. > :08:25.trade and free enterprise, and of jointly promulgating

:08:26. > :08:27.the values that unite our two countries.

:08:28. > :08:31.That is the message. A former head of the civil service,

:08:32. > :08:36.Lord Kerslake, has warned that there aren't enough civil

:08:37. > :08:39.servants to cope with the demands of His remarks follow a leaked memo

:08:40. > :08:43.last week from the consultants Deloitte, which said the civil

:08:44. > :08:46.service would have to recruit an extra 30,000 personnel

:08:47. > :08:49.to deliver Brexit. The Prime Minister's official

:08:50. > :08:53.spokesman said the consultant who wrote the memo had not been

:08:54. > :08:56.working for the government. Another former senior civil servant

:08:57. > :08:59.was enthused by the whole thing. How much do you think

:09:00. > :09:01.the government is making an increasingly impossible ask,

:09:02. > :09:02.particularly of departments in the present climate,

:09:03. > :09:10.with reducing the civil service, but overlaying more and more

:09:11. > :09:14.tasks, and now Brexit? Well, I think you have raised

:09:15. > :09:18.the big issue here, really, and I think within my personal view,

:09:19. > :09:22.there is a genuine issue about capacity to manage both

:09:23. > :09:28.the demands of Brexit, which is huge, complex and with big

:09:29. > :09:33.stakes, and at the same time, taking forward a set of other policy

:09:34. > :09:39.initiatives that government I think it is not possible to do

:09:40. > :09:45.that when the civil service is at its lowest number

:09:46. > :10:05.since the Second World War Another former civil servant wasn't

:10:06. > :10:07.used by the whole thing. -- was infused.

:10:08. > :10:10.and facing the civil service is definitely huge.

:10:11. > :10:12.We shall have to run domestically, policies that have been

:10:13. > :10:17.If we leave the customs union, we will need an awful lot more

:10:18. > :10:21.However, I don't think that should stop making the efficiencies

:10:22. > :10:27.in other areas which the government has set out to make.

:10:28. > :10:30.I think there probably will be a net increase in the size of the civil

:10:31. > :10:34.service as a result of this, and the government ought

:10:35. > :10:38.first of all to look to redeploying people.

:10:39. > :10:43.But they shouldn't stop trying to make efficiencies

:10:44. > :10:51.which are possible. I entirely agree.

:10:52. > :10:53.Go back to the remarks that the civil service helped win

:10:54. > :10:59.And of course, that is very reassuring.

:11:00. > :11:01.But there is something about the civil service in

:11:02. > :11:04.peacetime that lacks the same pace and urgency that the civil service

:11:05. > :11:14.How should ministers inculcate that sense of pace and urgency?

:11:15. > :11:17.I think this is a terrific opportunity for the civil service,

:11:18. > :11:22.and I haven't often, since I retired, wanted to be back

:11:23. > :11:26.in the civil service, but I do now, because I think

:11:27. > :11:30.that this is a very exciting time, and I think there's an opportunity

:11:31. > :11:35.to rise to it, and I am confident that, on past form,

:11:36. > :11:43.The civil service was in excess of a million in 1944.

:11:44. > :11:53.So we've seen a drastic change in size and composition.

:11:54. > :11:58.The second point I'd make is that of course the civil service

:11:59. > :12:00.carry on seeking to be more efficient, but what we've really got

:12:01. > :12:04.to resist is letting good people go and then finding we recruit them

:12:05. > :12:15.Meanwhile, the Lords has held a general debate on different

:12:16. > :12:20.The Prime Minister has maintained Britain will get the best exit deal

:12:21. > :12:22.so long as the Government doesn't provide a running commentary

:12:23. > :12:26.But some of her opponents say the policy is too secretive.

:12:27. > :12:29.A Conservative peer said keeping all your cards close to your chest

:12:30. > :12:33.But it's not always wise to clutch all your cards

:12:34. > :12:42.Occasionally, you need to play one to draw other cards out.

:12:43. > :12:44.And the whole process of negotiation, in my view,

:12:45. > :12:47.is one of creating a favourable atmosphere by gradually

:12:48. > :12:53.exposing your hand, and if, in doing that, you have the express

:12:54. > :12:55.endorsement of a sovereign Parliament at your back,

:12:56. > :13:00.you'll be much stronger in your negotiating position.

:13:01. > :13:03.I do not believe that, given the magnitude of the matters

:13:04. > :13:08.which are to be decided in this Brexit issue, that it could be right

:13:09. > :13:12.that Parliament has no involvement until the end of the negotiating

:13:13. > :13:16.process or that its role should be reduced to merely debating

:13:17. > :13:20.the situation and asking questions in a vacuum.

:13:21. > :13:23.And I do think the government should come clean before

:13:24. > :13:28.I think the government should be telling the country

:13:29. > :13:31.what the choices are - what are the upsides and downsides

:13:32. > :13:38.Lord Inglewood said that Brexit will be a long-drawn-out process.

:13:39. > :13:43.It's going to take, My Lords, 2-10 years!

:13:44. > :13:46.The elements of this are not as simple as exiting

:13:47. > :13:52.What about the treaties, whether it's staying in the single

:13:53. > :13:56.market or in the customs union, doing trade deals?

:13:57. > :14:01.Now, when Britain goes, the pressure will move to Berlin.

:14:02. > :14:05.Berlin will no longer be able to stand in the centre.

:14:06. > :14:08.It will have to take a much stronger role and a role which -

:14:09. > :14:12.let me tell you know, having recently been there -

:14:13. > :14:17.is not one that they are looking forward to taking.

:14:18. > :14:22.We can take a strong role and the worst they'll say,

:14:23. > :14:24."Oh, the Brits throwing their weight around."

:14:25. > :14:26.Unlike us, if Germany tries to take a strong role,

:14:27. > :14:30.it brings out all the animus of years ago.

:14:31. > :14:33.And that's why the Germans do not like it and that's why the Germans

:14:34. > :14:36.are very unhappy at us leaving, because we have been the sensible

:14:37. > :14:41.people who have helped to deliver a European Union that works.

:14:42. > :14:45.Why is it that the government have been so desperately anxious to cut

:14:46. > :14:51.Parliament out of the loop over Article 50?

:14:52. > :14:53.Nobody has given an explanation of that, the public is entitled

:14:54. > :14:57.to know, and the proceeding is quite extraordinary.

:14:58. > :15:01.I hope we won't be told that it's in order to save time,

:15:02. > :15:04.because it really would be the most terrible insult to Parliament

:15:05. > :15:07.to be told that to consult Parliament is a waste of time.

:15:08. > :15:09.And, anyway, it would be an untrue explanation, because the government

:15:10. > :15:12.now, by appealing the decision of the High Court, have lost more

:15:13. > :15:15.time, perhaps six or seven week at least, precisely in order

:15:16. > :15:21.to be able to prevent Parliament from getting in on the action.

:15:22. > :15:24.You're watching our round up of the day in the Commons and the Lords.

:15:25. > :15:34.A plea for better financial help for people who donate organs.

:15:35. > :15:36.A strong defence of selection in education has been mounted

:15:37. > :15:39.in the Commons by a former Cabinet Minister.

:15:40. > :15:41.In the latest debate on social mobility, John Redwood told

:15:42. > :15:44.the House it was perfectly normal for talented musicians

:15:45. > :15:47.or footballers to be selected, so why couldn't the principle be

:15:48. > :15:56.If a young person from a poor background becomes a top footballer,

:15:57. > :15:58.that is a transformational event in their lives

:15:59. > :16:04.And why do they not understand that exactly the same arguments apply

:16:05. > :16:09.We take the children at quite a young age that we think

:16:10. > :16:13.are going to be the most talented musicians and we give them elite

:16:14. > :16:15.special training, so that they can play to the highest

:16:16. > :16:18.standards in the world. I'll give way.

:16:19. > :16:22.Thank you for giving way, I am glad he mentioned football,

:16:23. > :16:24.because, actually, 13% of our national football team

:16:25. > :16:26.went to private schools, which is double the number

:16:27. > :16:29.of people who go to private schools nationally.

:16:30. > :16:32.Does he think that might account for the performance

:16:33. > :16:36.If we're missing out on the talent that exists

:16:37. > :16:42.And would he recognise that that is precisely the problem

:16:43. > :16:46.We're missing out on talent as a result of too narrow a focus.

:16:47. > :16:49.I don't think we're going to get a better team by training them less,

:16:50. > :16:52.and no longer giving them any kind of elite education.

:16:53. > :16:54.I really think they're being obtuse on the benches opposite.

:16:55. > :16:56.By the time they would take the 11-plus, children

:16:57. > :16:58.from the most disadvantaged backgrounds are already,

:16:59. > :17:07.The evidence shows that investment in early years is the best way

:17:08. > :17:09.to close the attainment gap between the most disadvantaged

:17:10. > :17:19.Does the Honourable Lady agree with David Cameron, who said,

:17:20. > :17:23."There's a kind of hopelessness about the demand to bring back

:17:24. > :17:26.grammars, an assumption that this country will only ever be able

:17:27. > :17:28.to offer decent education to a select few"?

:17:29. > :17:34.I thank the Honourable Member for her contribution,

:17:35. > :17:38.and I find myself agreeing with the former Prime Minister,

:17:39. > :17:43.who was elected to make those contributions within this debate.

:17:44. > :17:45.That was the platform and the manifesto that

:17:46. > :17:47.the Conservative Government stood on, that they're

:17:48. > :17:51.I was setting out why this Government believes that driving

:17:52. > :17:58.But I also wanted to set out that, in reality, as challenging

:17:59. > :18:01.as it is for our country, no country in the world has

:18:02. > :18:05.managed to crack the issue of social mobility yet.

:18:06. > :18:09.That is because it's highly complex, many factors feed into it

:18:10. > :18:13.and because improving social mobility is, as the Social

:18:14. > :18:16.Mobility Commission says, a long-term issue which needs

:18:17. > :18:21.a long-term approach, and not to be simply treated

:18:22. > :18:26.like a political football for short-term political gain.

:18:27. > :18:29.If we are serious, and if the government

:18:30. > :18:32.is serious in believing, that more selective schools raises

:18:33. > :18:39.standards across the board, then they would have proposed only

:18:40. > :18:41.introducing those schools in pilot areas and those areas

:18:42. > :18:51.But the Green Paper talks about local demand being a driver

:18:52. > :18:54.and my question to the ministers is what if those areas most in need

:18:55. > :18:58.of standards being raised opt out of having new schools?

:18:59. > :19:01.The real problem with selective education is not that you end up

:19:02. > :19:03.with good schools and poorer schools, it's not that one

:19:04. > :19:08.set of teachers works harder than another.

:19:09. > :19:11.It's that whole swathes of our young people will be labelled -

:19:12. > :19:13.wrongly, of course - as having failed.

:19:14. > :19:17.And with that, social mobility falls.

:19:18. > :19:21.Let's open up opportunities to people, regardless

:19:22. > :19:23.of their ability to pay, and that's exactly what we do

:19:24. > :19:28.in those areas that offer selection in the state sector.

:19:29. > :19:30.But Trafford is outstanding, Mr Speaker, not just because

:19:31. > :19:39.It's also the outstanding quality of the high schools.

:19:40. > :19:43.And this persistent myth from the 1950s and '60s that,

:19:44. > :19:46.if you have grammar schools, you have sink schools is an utter

:19:47. > :19:53.In selective areas, and the concern is that nonselective schools do

:19:54. > :19:55.worse, because the selective schools have in some sense

:19:56. > :20:00.And there is not clear evidence for that.

:20:01. > :20:04.There are reports on both sides, giving both points of view.

:20:05. > :20:08.The Sutton Trust, in 2008, found no such effect.

:20:09. > :20:12.I could take members of this House to the grammar schools in Sutton,

:20:13. > :20:14.next to my constituency, and I will show you classes

:20:15. > :20:20.of young Tamil kids, first and second generation,

:20:21. > :20:23.on free school meals, there because their parents

:20:24. > :20:27.understand the importance of education and they live

:20:28. > :20:30.the immigrant's dreams, which many members in this House

:20:31. > :20:36.have shared and benefited from, but it's our own white working class

:20:37. > :20:39.kids who are not getting the benefit of that, and the issue,

:20:40. > :20:46.I would suggest, is so much bigger than the type of school.

:20:47. > :20:48.There's been a significant misinformation put out there

:20:49. > :20:50.about the achievement in the education system in Kent.

:20:51. > :20:52.Children in Kent achieve above national average

:20:53. > :20:56.The system does well and we know that, particularly within that

:20:57. > :20:59.system, children on low incomes, children with free school meals,

:21:00. > :21:02.or in receipt of pupil premium, are doing especially well

:21:03. > :21:05.in our grammar schools that enables those children to make up the gap

:21:06. > :21:13.between themselves and other children with greater advantages.

:21:14. > :21:15.The ongoing debate on social mobility.

:21:16. > :21:18.The main focus of attention at Westminster this week

:21:19. > :21:20.is the Autumn Statement , which will be delivered

:21:21. > :21:22.for the first time by the Chancellor Philip Hammond.

:21:23. > :21:24.More often than not in Budget speeches and Autumn Statements,

:21:25. > :21:26.there are announcements concerning additional money

:21:27. > :21:30.So, by way of a pre-cursor to the Autumn Statement,

:21:31. > :21:33.MPs been arguing over the state of the NHS finances

:21:34. > :21:39.Public health budgets, which fund projects to tackle

:21:40. > :21:44.teenage pregnancy, anti-smoking interventions, alcohol consumption,

:21:45. > :21:47.sexually transmitted disease infections, this public health

:21:48. > :21:52.budget has been cut by 9.7% by the end of this Parliament -

:21:53. > :21:56.a completely false economy, leading to greater demands

:21:57. > :21:58.on the acute sector and, of course, we all know -

:21:59. > :22:00.as My Right Honourable Friend, the member for Worsley,

:22:01. > :22:03.so brilliantly outlined last week - the adult social care

:22:04. > :22:05.budget has been slashed and is on the brink.

:22:06. > :22:10.I'll give way. I'm extremely grateful.

:22:11. > :22:15.I think the House will take him somewhat more seriously if he did

:22:16. > :22:21.point out that, by 2019-20, the real terms increase in spending

:22:22. > :22:26.on the health service will be ?10 billion and, during the last

:22:27. > :22:33.election, his party only promised to increase spending

:22:34. > :22:40.in this Parliament by a quarter of that - ?2.5 billion!

:22:41. > :22:43.The Right Honourable Gentleman was the Minister who took

:22:44. > :22:45.the Health and Social Act through this Parliament,

:22:46. > :22:48.which wasted ?3 billion on an unnecessary top-down reorganisation.

:22:49. > :22:51.He should be apologising to the House,

:22:52. > :22:57.Now, I want to make a little bit of progress.

:22:58. > :23:02.We are seeing unprecedented cuts to social care,

:23:03. > :23:04.that has meant the numbers of people aged over 65 accessing

:23:05. > :23:07.publicly-funded social care will fall by 26%.

:23:08. > :23:10.Does he agree with me that, when funding is cut,

:23:11. > :23:13.then our hospitals seek to raise cash in other ways?

:23:14. > :23:19.Like the unacceptable level of car parking charges in our hospitals.

:23:20. > :23:21.Charges which the government promised, before

:23:22. > :23:25.As we have the Leader of the Opposition here, he said,

:23:26. > :23:27.the King's Fund said, "Claims of mass privatisation

:23:28. > :23:30.were and are exaggerated," so let's not go chasing down rabbit holes.

:23:31. > :23:38.But the result of this government's, then to be images is that real

:23:39. > :23:40.terms spending per head has gone up by 4.6%.

:23:41. > :23:46.That is double the rate of Scotland, three times the rate of Wales.

:23:47. > :23:52.And he also mentioned the National Audit Office.

:23:53. > :23:54.What he didn't mention about the numbers quoted in the

:23:55. > :23:57.NAO report was they are last year's figures and what he chose not

:23:58. > :24:01.to mention was this year's numbers, published last week,

:24:02. > :24:03.which showed 40 fewer trusts in deficit.

:24:04. > :24:06.Yes, a year ago, half of trusts were missing their financial plans,

:24:07. > :24:12.but now, 86% of trusts are hitting their financial plans.

:24:13. > :24:14.A Labour MP says organ donors should be guaranteed

:24:15. > :24:17.the right to paid leave, so they can recover from operations

:24:18. > :24:23.Louise Haigh introduced a Bill under the ten minute rule.

:24:24. > :24:27.It would bring in statutory leave for donors.

:24:28. > :24:31.She said the lack of any legislation was holding back potential donors.

:24:32. > :24:35.For young people in particular, who have the highest likelihood

:24:36. > :24:39.of donating high-quality bone marrow, that time out

:24:40. > :24:43.of the workplace may completely deter you.

:24:44. > :24:46.So that's why my Bill will guarantee living organ donors the right

:24:47. > :24:49.to paid time off to allow them to recover safe in the knowledge

:24:50. > :24:52.that they will not be financially penalised and that their job will be

:24:53. > :24:56.These guarantees will not only bring peace of mind,

:24:57. > :24:59.but will help increase the number of living donors

:25:00. > :25:02.from 1000 and bridge the gap between availability and need.

:25:03. > :25:05.But crucially, it will send a clear signal from government

:25:06. > :25:12.and from this House that, if you are prepared to give

:25:13. > :25:15.an organ to save a life, the law will back

:25:16. > :25:17.you every step of the way. Hear, hear!

:25:18. > :25:23.but is unlikely to become law in its present form.

:25:24. > :25:27.Do join me for our next daily round up.

:25:28. > :25:33.Until then, from me Keith Macdougall, goodbye.