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:00:17. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament.

:00:20. > :00:24.Senior MPs quiz Theresa May over whether Parliament will get

:00:25. > :00:39.It is my intention that Parliament had every opportunity to consider

:00:40. > :00:42.these matters and we must ensure we deliver on the vote of the British

:00:43. > :00:47.people which was a vote to leave the European Union. Again was that a yes

:00:48. > :00:50.or no? I gave the answer I gave. Rupert Murdoch's bid for full

:00:51. > :00:52.control of the broadcaster Sky - the former Labour leader wants it

:00:53. > :01:04.to be stopped. This bid shows that the Murdochs

:01:05. > :01:09.have learned nothing and think they can get away with anything. If it

:01:10. > :01:12.was wrong for them to own 100% of sky in 2012 it is wrong today.

:01:13. > :01:22.I reached my breaking point and grabbed her mobile and threw it

:01:23. > :01:24.across the aisle. But first, the lorry attack

:01:25. > :01:27.in Berlin was on the minds of Mps as they met for the last sitting day

:01:28. > :01:30.before the Commons 12 people were killed and 48 injured

:01:31. > :01:33.when a lorry ploughed into a Christmas market

:01:34. > :01:35.in the German capital. The German police are calling it

:01:36. > :01:39."a probable terrorist attack". In the Commons - before the day's

:01:40. > :01:41.business got underway - the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt

:01:42. > :01:44.was the first to speak As we wish each other

:01:45. > :01:51.a Merry Christmas, the whole House will this

:01:52. > :01:53.morning remember the people of Berlin as they face up

:01:54. > :01:55.to yesterday's horrific Germany and its capital, Berlin,

:01:56. > :02:01.have been beacons of freedom All our thoughts and prayers

:02:02. > :02:13.are with them today. I would just like to take a moment

:02:14. > :02:20.to reflect on the appalling news that came in from Berlin

:02:21. > :02:22.and Ankara yesterday. And we have seen very vivid images

:02:23. > :02:25.in our newspapers and television and I think they have shocked us

:02:26. > :02:28.all and I just wanted to express our condolences and I'm

:02:29. > :02:31.sure the condolences of all of us It was Theresa May's

:02:32. > :02:38.first appearance in front of the Liaison Committee -

:02:39. > :02:41.which is made up of the chairmen No surprises that the main subject

:02:42. > :02:46.up for discussion was Brexit. Among other things, they wanted

:02:47. > :02:49.to know if MPs would be given a vote on the final deal

:02:50. > :02:53.with the European Union. Is it your intention to ensure that

:02:54. > :02:57.Parliament has a vote on the final The parliament is going to have

:02:58. > :03:02.every opportunity to vote through the Great Repeal Bill

:03:03. > :03:05.on the various aspects of the relationship that we will be

:03:06. > :03:09.having with the European Union. The question is when the final deal

:03:10. > :03:14.is negotiated with the 27, is it your intention to ensure that

:03:15. > :03:17.Parliament has a chance to vote It is my intention to ensure that

:03:18. > :03:23.Parliament has ample opportunity to comment on and discuss

:03:24. > :03:25.the aspects of the arrangements I'm not sure I understand why

:03:26. > :03:31.it is so difficult to answer a question as to whether Parliament

:03:32. > :03:34.will have a vote or not, given that we know the European Parliament

:03:35. > :03:37.will have a vote on the deal, why can't you say that the British

:03:38. > :03:40.Parliament will also have a vote? What I am saying is that there

:03:41. > :03:45.will be an opportunity for Parliament of course to consider

:03:46. > :03:47.and as more details do become available, how this

:03:48. > :03:50.is going to operate. There is a question

:03:51. > :03:56.about the timetable in relation to the agreement of the deal

:03:57. > :03:59.and the necessity, how that timetable will operate in relation

:04:00. > :04:03.to the European Parliament as well. What I am also clear

:04:04. > :04:08.about is ensuring that when we come to the point we are actually

:04:09. > :04:11.delivering on the vote of the British people,

:04:12. > :04:24.that we will be leaving The Prime Minister was unchallenged

:04:25. > :04:26.over whether she would use Brexit to reduce immigration.

:04:27. > :04:29.If you are to stand any chance of meeting your net migration

:04:30. > :04:32.target, you would have to get EU net migration down to what, 50,000?

:04:33. > :04:34.We will be putting into place the immigration arrangements

:04:35. > :04:37.for people coming from within the European Union that we believe

:04:38. > :04:39.are in the interests of the United Kingdom.

:04:40. > :04:42.So does that mean that if you conclude that it is not in

:04:43. > :04:44.the interests of the United Kingdom to get net migration

:04:45. > :04:47.from the EU down to 50,000, you will ditch the net migration

:04:48. > :04:50.target, or would you give the net migration target priority over

:04:51. > :04:57.what is in Britain's best interests in the negotiations?

:04:58. > :04:59.This government will retain its intention

:05:00. > :05:07.We set out very clearly for some time now that we believe

:05:08. > :05:08.it is sustainable levels and sustainable levels

:05:09. > :05:13.And we do that for very good reasons, because of the impact

:05:14. > :05:20.that we believe immigration does have, that research has shown it

:05:21. > :05:22.does have on people, particularly those at the lower end

:05:23. > :05:27.I understand the reasons behind it, I understand the reason.

:05:28. > :05:30.The question is what is your objective going forward?

:05:31. > :05:34.You have a net migration target to get below the tens of thousands.

:05:35. > :05:38.I'm asking you whether you are planning to meet that net migration

:05:39. > :05:40.target through the Brexit negotiations and if so,

:05:41. > :05:44.what are you aiming for on net EU migration?

:05:45. > :05:49.If you've got to get it down from 189,000

:05:50. > :05:53.to at least below 100,000, who do you want not to come?

:05:54. > :05:59.and I have been clear about the Brexit negotiations.

:06:00. > :06:03.The vote on the 23rd of June from people was that they wanted us

:06:04. > :06:05.to have control of immigration, to put in place controls

:06:06. > :06:08.on immigration for people coming from the European union.

:06:09. > :06:10.We also want to ensure we get the best possible deal

:06:11. > :06:19.for trading with and operating within the European Union.

:06:20. > :06:23.One MP was not sure she had given a clear answer on giving Parliament

:06:24. > :06:25.vote. Is it your intention that Parliament

:06:26. > :06:28.should vote on a final deal once it's been negotiated,

:06:29. > :06:29.this was a question And what I have said

:06:30. > :06:35.is it is my intention that Parliament should have every

:06:36. > :06:37.opportunity to consider What I'm also clear

:06:38. > :06:40.about is to ensure that we actually deliver on the vote of the British

:06:41. > :06:43.people which was about to leave OK, I'll leave you

:06:44. > :06:56.to decide that one. And questions on another pressing

:06:57. > :07:00.issue, social care. There is now around 1 million people

:07:01. > :07:02.who should be entitled to social care who are not receiving it,

:07:03. > :07:05.putting great pressure The reason, real-term spending

:07:06. > :07:11.on social care fell by 9% To use the form of words

:07:12. > :07:15.with which you might be familiar, do you agree that for social care,

:07:16. > :07:20.crisis means crisis? As I have said, previously,

:07:21. > :07:22.I accept that there are That is why the government has made

:07:23. > :07:28.available the opportunity for local authorities,

:07:29. > :07:31.as was set out in the local government finance settlement last

:07:32. > :07:35.week, the opportunity for extra money to be available to be

:07:36. > :07:38.spent on social care. But there is also a question

:07:39. > :07:40.not just about those short-term pressures,

:07:41. > :07:44.but in the medium term, ensuring that we are seeing delivery

:07:45. > :07:51.and best practice being introduced in terms of delivery of social

:07:52. > :07:53.care across the country. You talk about fewer people

:07:54. > :07:57.being able to access social care. Actually there are many local

:07:58. > :07:59.authorities around the country where we are now seeing more people

:08:00. > :08:03.accessing social care. Clive Betts told her

:08:04. > :08:05.he would be very interested Four years ago Rupert Murdoch failed

:08:06. > :08:10.in his ambition to take full control He abandoned his plan

:08:11. > :08:16.because of the public outcry over phone-hacking at one

:08:17. > :08:17.of his newspapers, But now Mr Murdoch is having another

:08:18. > :08:23.go at taking 100% ownership of Sky, There has been no formal

:08:24. > :08:30.notification of the takeover bid. When that happens,

:08:31. > :08:33.the Culture Secretary Karen Bradley will have ten days to decide

:08:34. > :08:36.whether to refer the proposal to Karen Bradley told MPs that

:08:37. > :08:42.because of her "quasi-judicial" role she would not be able

:08:43. > :08:45.to comment further. But Ed Miliband -

:08:46. > :08:47.who's been very critical of Rupert Murdoch before -

:08:48. > :08:49.told the Commons it We're going into recess

:08:50. > :08:54.until January ninth. And the bid may be notified

:08:55. > :08:58.to government at any time. And it is very important,

:08:59. > :09:01.Mr Speaker, that the House understands the reality that in even

:09:02. > :09:05.launching this bid for 100% of Sky, the Murdochs are seeking to turn

:09:06. > :09:08.the judgment of this House, the regulator and indeed

:09:09. > :09:13.the country, on its head. In 2011 this House unanimously urged

:09:14. > :09:15.the withdrawal of the bid In 2012 Ofcom published a damning

:09:16. > :09:22.assessment of James Murdoch's behaviour in the running of News

:09:23. > :09:24.International. Mr Speaker, that report only stopped

:09:25. > :09:28.short of declaring Sky as unfit and improper to hold a licence

:09:29. > :09:31.on the basis that the Murdochs were And James Murdoch was no longer

:09:32. > :09:41.playing an executive role at Sky. Today, James Murdoch is back

:09:42. > :09:44.as chairman of Sky and chief This bid shows the Murdochs have

:09:45. > :09:49.learnt nothing and think they can If it was wrong for the Murdochs

:09:50. > :09:56.to own 100% of Sky in 2011 I do not for one second

:09:57. > :10:02.underestimate the huge public and parliamentary interest

:10:03. > :10:06.in this proposed merger. As well as the importance of this

:10:07. > :10:13.issue to the parties concerned. But the important thing

:10:14. > :10:16.is that I must ensure, given my quasi-judicial role,

:10:17. > :10:20.that I protect the integrity of the process and ensure that

:10:21. > :10:24.as and when, if the formal notification is given,

:10:25. > :10:28.that that is properly considered. I will be making no further

:10:29. > :10:30.comments on the merit While there may well be a case

:10:31. > :10:36.for asking the regulator to look at this bid,

:10:37. > :10:39.will she also recognise that this represents a ?12 billion investment

:10:40. > :10:43.into a British company and is a vote of confidence that Britain

:10:44. > :10:46.will remain a centre of international broadcasting

:10:47. > :10:49.after Britain leaves I know Christmas is a time for TV

:10:50. > :10:59.repeats, but this one was not hit the first time around and it is no

:11:00. > :11:03.more popular now. Mr Speaker, last week

:11:04. > :11:07.the Minister of State told the House categorically

:11:08. > :11:09.that the Prime Minister had not discussed this bid in her recent

:11:10. > :11:12.New York meeting with Rupert Will the Secretary of State

:11:13. > :11:15.repeat that assurance? How does she know, can she tell

:11:16. > :11:17.us what was discussed? Because after all, Leveson

:11:18. > :11:19.recommended that those Yesterday, Mr Speaker,

:11:20. > :11:27.Rupert Murdoch wrote I have made it a principal

:11:28. > :11:35.or my life never to ask for anything We will just pause to take that

:11:36. > :11:41.in a moment, Mr Speaker. You will recall John Major's

:11:42. > :11:45.testimony to the Leveson Inquiry in which he recalled Rupert Murdoch

:11:46. > :11:49.asking him to change his And warning that, if we couldn't

:11:50. > :11:59.change our European policies, his papers could not and would not

:12:00. > :12:02.support the Conservative government. Does the Secretary of State

:12:03. > :12:04.believe Rupert Murdoch, or the former Conservative Prime

:12:05. > :12:07.Minister? He has asked specifically

:12:08. > :12:09.about the meeting that the Prime She had a prearranged meeting

:12:10. > :12:17.with Wall Street Journal editors. Mr Murdoch dropped into that meeting

:12:18. > :12:19.and I can assure him that the proposed takeover

:12:20. > :12:23.was not discussed. I'm not entirely sure that a company

:12:24. > :12:30.controlled by Rupert Murdoch trying to buy another company largely

:12:31. > :12:34.controlled by Rupert Murdoch is of the great public interest

:12:35. > :12:37.that the Secretary of State seems This really is all about the party

:12:38. > :12:44.opposite not liking Rupert Murdoch. If this was Richard Branson

:12:45. > :12:47.in the same situation, they wouldn't be saying

:12:48. > :12:50.a word about it. A substantial number

:12:51. > :12:52.of my constituents have contacted me over the last week

:12:53. > :12:55.regarding this bid. And they are all of the same

:12:56. > :12:59.opinion, but Mr Murdoch has too much Many would like to see his bid

:13:00. > :13:04.being referred to Ofcom Karen Bradley apologised,

:13:05. > :13:09.saying she could not make comment on the process or the merits

:13:10. > :13:12.of the bid. You're watching Tuesday

:13:13. > :13:15.in Parliament, with me, The Foreign Affairs Committee

:13:16. > :13:22.is investigating the UK's With events in Ukraine and Syria -

:13:23. > :13:27.as well as Russia's engagement in cyber-warfare -

:13:28. > :13:31.there's much to discuss. But at the start of the session,

:13:32. > :13:33.the Europe Minister, Sir Alan Duncan, gave his reaction

:13:34. > :13:47.to the murder of Russia's With fully condemn this, it is a

:13:48. > :13:52.heinous attack and you can be assured the Foreign Office in the

:13:53. > :13:53.proper way has been in contact with our Turkish and Russian counterparts

:13:54. > :13:55.to express our condolences. The committee moved

:13:56. > :14:07.on to Russia's interference There's a strong suggestion being

:14:08. > :14:21.investigated by the CIA that the US election was interfered with by

:14:22. > :14:28.Russia. And for example today the bar a memorandum of agreement signed

:14:29. > :14:37.by the President Putin party with an Austrian party. There is an

:14:38. > :14:41.undermining here of the values of liberal open-minded Western models

:14:42. > :14:46.whether in the US or the European Union. And Russia is pursuing

:14:47. > :14:53.asymmetric warfare to undermine solidarity of Nato and the European

:14:54. > :14:56.Union. I think there is no doubt that using modern technology, they

:14:57. > :15:00.are interfering in many parts of the world. We saw that in Montenegro as

:15:01. > :15:07.well weather was a serious interference. Undeniably I think

:15:08. > :15:14.Russian inspired in the democratic process in Montenegro. Quite what

:15:15. > :15:18.the effect was, what exactly they did in the United States, it is

:15:19. > :15:23.unclear. But I think there is no doubt and we have got to accept that

:15:24. > :15:30.as a fact, that cyber warfare is now a part of modern life and the

:15:31. > :15:35.Russians are using it as best they can in the political dimension. Not

:15:36. > :15:43.just in the commercial one but there is political interference. We had

:15:44. > :15:47.our difficulties with Alexander Litvinenko, there have been

:15:48. > :15:52.impediments and also issues which we feel strongly about such as Ukraine

:15:53. > :15:55.and subsequently Aleppo. We need to balance the respect they deserve

:15:56. > :16:00.with firm talk about the things on which we thoroughly, of which we

:16:01. > :16:06.thoroughly disapprove. So I hope that the balance of language and

:16:07. > :16:10.action is finding its feet perhaps more than it has done in the past

:16:11. > :16:16.and our attitude and it is in the paper I gave the committee, is one

:16:17. > :16:21.of very firm views were we think they are behaving improperly such as

:16:22. > :16:23.challenging other countries with their territorial integrity and

:16:24. > :16:28.showing them the proper respect which are great nation is due. That

:16:29. > :16:29.is the balance that perhaps we could strike better but that is the

:16:30. > :16:33.balance we have got to strike. Labour's Ann Clwyd described

:16:34. > :16:35.a meeting between the committee and the Russian ambassador to London

:16:36. > :16:46.when the bombardment He was asked about the bombing of

:16:47. > :16:51.hospitals and his answer to that was that there are no hospitals in

:16:52. > :16:57.Aleppo. So we asked him, what are they then? You said they were

:16:58. > :17:09.jihadists training camps. Now, how do you develop a dialogue when

:17:10. > :17:15.people are dealing with so-called fair facts as opposed to our facts?

:17:16. > :17:21.Yes, I like to think we and our politics live in a rational world

:17:22. > :17:26.and we value the truth and one of the things that we set store by is

:17:27. > :17:30.knowing when someone is not telling the truth. In this conflict, there

:17:31. > :17:36.are clear and obvious occasions when people are not telling the truth and

:17:37. > :17:40.saying black is white when it isn't. I think with the issue of Aleppo,

:17:41. > :17:44.there are many such examples and they are very distressing. That is

:17:45. > :17:48.where we have two show the courage and leadership to have clear views

:17:49. > :17:55.and point out truth from fiction, and stand our ground. That, I hope,

:17:56. > :18:01.is what the UK is doing. And we are having to do so, let's be absolutely

:18:02. > :18:06.frank, with Russia in a number of areas. Aleppo and the Ukraine are

:18:07. > :18:11.two examples. We will not be pushed around and told what we believe to

:18:12. > :18:14.be the truth is not. We will advertise the truth and make it

:18:15. > :18:16.clear. That is what we will do and that is one of our main weapons of

:18:17. > :18:18.diplomacy. The Europe Minister,

:18:19. > :18:21.Sir Alan Duncan. The government has admitted

:18:22. > :18:23.that there are serious problems in the way the leasehold system

:18:24. > :18:26.works in England and Wales. Conservative and Labour MPs

:18:27. > :18:28.told the Commons some of their constituents had seen

:18:29. > :18:30.ground rent charges rocket - in some cases to levels where their

:18:31. > :18:41.houses became unsellable. What we are discussing today is

:18:42. > :18:46.nothing short of a national scandal. It is the PPI of the house-building

:18:47. > :18:50.industry. Every now and then, a sharp practice comes to light which

:18:51. > :18:53.is totally unconscionable and which every reasonable person looking at

:18:54. > :18:59.it would say, we cannot allow this to continue. Parliament must act.

:19:00. > :19:03.This is one such occasion. The practice that has developed is to

:19:04. > :19:09.sell new homes on a long-term lease with a misleading low grounds learnt

:19:10. > :19:14.rent and buyout price. This practice has become, in my constituency over

:19:15. > :19:17.the last few years and contrary to what is asserted by some developers,

:19:18. > :19:22.it is not a tradition in my constituency. It now seems to be

:19:23. > :19:26.part of the business model for a great many developers. It's a very

:19:27. > :19:29.clever way of selling more units, dropping the asking price a little

:19:30. > :19:33.to reflect the fact it is a leasehold but failed to make it

:19:34. > :19:36.clear that in the long run, the homeowner will pay far, far more

:19:37. > :19:45.than they would have done if the property had been freehold. My

:19:46. > :19:51.calculation as if a ?250,000 house with a ground rent the doubles

:19:52. > :19:59.over... Over 60 years, the successive leaseholders will have

:20:00. > :20:05.paid.... That's in the first 60 years of release. Sadly, there are

:20:06. > :20:09.too many bullies, cowboys and crooks and for the government to feel

:20:10. > :20:13.comfortable with the legislation as it stands is unacceptable. We need

:20:14. > :20:16.not only better regulation, we need not only better protection and

:20:17. > :20:21.advice, we need legislation. There are millions of citizens out there

:20:22. > :20:25.looking to their politicians, of whichever party, to remedy their

:20:26. > :20:28.distress. With my right honourable friend agree that many people

:20:29. > :20:32.entering these are the souls are entirely unaware that the landlords

:20:33. > :20:37.have the power to make huge increases in ground rents and that

:20:38. > :20:41.if this practice is deemed acceptable, at the very least,

:20:42. > :20:44.tenants going into these agreements should have very clear information

:20:45. > :20:49.about what the landlords can do, what their rights are and how they

:20:50. > :20:53.can challenge them? When one has worked hard to save up to buy a

:20:54. > :20:58.home, budgeted to be able to pay the costs needed to service any loan and

:20:59. > :21:03.the other costs one reasonably accepts -- expects, when should then

:21:04. > :21:07.expect security. For hard-working people, those who are doing the

:21:08. > :21:11.right thing by investing their hard earned cash into buying a home, are

:21:12. > :21:18.being ripped off, left right and centre. The government must act

:21:19. > :21:20.urgently to stop this gross explication of hard-working

:21:21. > :21:25.homeowners who are finding they cannot sell their homes. It seems to

:21:26. > :21:30.me and to the Secretary of State to be one of those cases where there is

:21:31. > :21:35.a gulf between the letter of the law and our sense of what is right. Some

:21:36. > :21:38.of the cases we've seen in the media is heard about in today's debate

:21:39. > :21:43.have highlighted some truly appalling behaviour. The secretary

:21:44. > :21:46.of State and I have been looking closely at the issues raised in

:21:47. > :21:51.recent weeks and I can tell the house that we are both absolutely

:21:52. > :21:52.determined to stamp out unfair, unjust and unacceptable abuse of the

:21:53. > :21:54.leasehold system. To the House of Lords now

:21:55. > :21:57.where the day started The Leader of Lords, Lord Fowler,

:21:58. > :22:01.announced a new inquiry into ways of reducing the size of the upper

:22:02. > :22:11.chamber. On December five, the house debated

:22:12. > :22:17.a motion on the size of the house. The motion sought agreement that the

:22:18. > :22:20.house believes that its size should be reduced and methods should be

:22:21. > :22:25.explored by which this could be achieved. 61 members spoke during

:22:26. > :22:28.the debate and the motion was carried unanimously. If each of many

:22:29. > :22:33.of the speeches that day was that we should not delay in such an

:22:34. > :22:37.examination. Accordingly, and setting up a 6-member Lord's

:22:38. > :22:41.speakers committee drawn entirely from the backbenches to examine the

:22:42. > :22:45.possible methods by which the house could be reduced in size. I'm

:22:46. > :22:51.pleased to announce that Lord Burns has agreed to chair the committee.

:22:52. > :22:55.Other members of the committee will be Lord Spieth, Baroness Browning,

:22:56. > :22:59.Baroness Crawley, Baroness Taylor of Bolton and Lord Wakeham. The

:23:00. > :23:04.committee would get to work as soon as the house resumes after the

:23:05. > :23:09.Christmas recess. I would just add that this is not an easy task but

:23:10. > :23:13.hopefully, if this issue can be settled, the public will be better

:23:14. > :23:14.able to recognise the true value of this size.

:23:15. > :23:17.One of the roles that the Lords takes very seriously is debating

:23:18. > :23:20.They're the means by which the Government can amend the law

:23:21. > :23:26.Peers have been discussing a measure to increase the number of penalty

:23:27. > :23:29.points imposed when a driver is caught using a mobile phone.

:23:30. > :23:32.One peer said using a mobile phone was a "breach of good manners"

:23:33. > :23:45.If the house will just indulge me, I will give my own experience with my

:23:46. > :23:54.god daughter aged 21, who I took with her parents to the theatre in

:23:55. > :23:58.Paris actually. Just about that time, it was a well-known singer in

:23:59. > :24:05.France he was giving us an evening, and just as the star came on and the

:24:06. > :24:11.lights went down, I'd goddaughter saw fit to send a text to somebody

:24:12. > :24:15.which created a light on the machine. I quickly reminded her, you

:24:16. > :24:24.may upset a few people here with a light, please put it off. She

:24:25. > :24:28.ignored me and went on doing it. Despite his requests, she continued

:24:29. > :24:33.using the phone. I reached my breaking point so I grabbed my bow

:24:34. > :24:38.bile and I threw it into the audience, across the aisle. I saw it

:24:39. > :24:42.bouncing off the head of maybe a Frenchman but it could have been

:24:43. > :24:51.anyone, back into the aisle. She was totally astonished by my behaviour

:24:52. > :24:55.and her aunt, who was also with us, said well done, well done. I've been

:24:56. > :24:59.longing to do that for a long time. I can tell the noble Lords that my

:25:00. > :25:05.god daughter the other day who is now 25, she was 21 at the time,

:25:06. > :25:10.said, because I remarked she'd had a mobile with her, I said is that the

:25:11. > :25:14.same one I threw into the audience? She said, yes it is, actually. That

:25:15. > :25:16.was a salutary lesson. I've never forgotten it.

:25:17. > :25:18.Lord Falkland on throwing mobile phones and the need

:25:19. > :25:21.Well that's it from Tuesday in Parliament.

:25:22. > :25:24.The Lords is sitting for one more day but the Commons has broken up

:25:25. > :25:28.Although there won't be a daily round-up until the New Year it's

:25:29. > :25:31.only good manners to point out that Alicia McCarthy will be

:25:32. > :25:34.here on Wednesday night with a review of the last few months

:25:35. > :25:39.But from me, Kristiina Cooper, it's goodbye - for now -