:00:26. > :00:27.Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament.
:00:28. > :00:32.Peers insist they have a right to be heard as they hold their second day
:00:33. > :00:44.This house should be urging a rethink on the project. This house
:00:45. > :00:56.should be sailing not in my name. We should be sailing not in my name. We
:00:57. > :00:59.have two stop the money from butchers and despots which flows
:01:00. > :01:03.through UK banks. And, Lord Tebbit changes
:01:04. > :01:05.his mind about bikes - complaining about the time it takes
:01:06. > :01:08.for motorists to That has been caused
:01:09. > :01:20.by the barricades which have been put up in order to assist
:01:21. > :01:23.cyclists, who also get in the way But first, the House of Lords has
:01:24. > :01:28.been having its second day of debate on the Bill that will start
:01:29. > :01:30.the formal process To accommodate the 190 people
:01:31. > :01:33.who wanted to contribute, the upper chamber had an early start
:01:34. > :01:36.- kicking off at 11am First to speak was the Conservative
:01:37. > :01:40.former Chancellor, Lord Lamont. I made my maiden
:01:41. > :01:42.speech in the House of Commons in 1972 in favour
:01:43. > :01:44.of our membership of the European Union
:01:45. > :01:45.on the European Communities
:01:46. > :01:49.Third Reading Act. I little dreamt that 45 years later
:01:50. > :01:52.I would be standing up and actually advocating
:01:53. > :01:56.the reverse procedure, namely that we should withdraw
:01:57. > :02:00.from the organisation I advocated joining, but it is not me
:02:01. > :02:04.who has changed, but I think Europe. As was symbolised in its change
:02:05. > :02:07.of name from the European Economic Community to the European Community,
:02:08. > :02:16.finally to the European Union. A Liberal Democrat said
:02:17. > :02:18.the British people should be given a second referendum
:02:19. > :02:21.when negotiations were complete. For this Government,
:02:22. > :02:23.the economy is low on this new agenda, compared to reducing
:02:24. > :02:25.immigration and removing any But I'm pretty sure
:02:26. > :02:28.that is not the priority So let the people see
:02:29. > :02:33.the final Brexit deal and Consider its consequences
:02:34. > :02:38.and decide on it. In two years, we will have facts
:02:39. > :02:41.and reasonable clarity. And surely then it is time
:02:42. > :02:47.for the British people to have My Lords, it is a pleasure
:02:48. > :02:57.to follow the noble Baroness Kramer, but is a pleasure
:02:58. > :03:00.also to disagree profoundly with her suggestion of having
:03:01. > :03:01.a second referendum. I would like to begin by
:03:02. > :03:04.congratulating the Prime Minister on Her vision and clarity
:03:05. > :03:11.was exactly what we had been She was quite clear
:03:12. > :03:18.that she accepted the result of the No ifs, no buts, no EEA,
:03:19. > :03:30.no one foot in, nor one foot out, That is what the referendum
:03:31. > :03:34.called for and that is what this Government
:03:35. > :03:37.is going to deliver, and I am very Our children and
:03:38. > :03:40.grandchildren and theirs in turn will ask, "What did you do
:03:41. > :03:43.with this was decided? What do you do at this
:03:44. > :03:45.crucial juncture? Were you shackled by
:03:46. > :03:47.convention, fearful Did you dance to the tune
:03:48. > :03:52.of the Daily Mail, principle and posterity
:03:53. > :03:57.and for the values of and for the interests of our young
:03:58. > :04:02.and in fact for the neglected I will support vital
:04:03. > :04:06.amendments, and if they are not accepted I'm
:04:07. > :04:09.going to vote against this bill. This house should be
:04:10. > :04:11.urging a rethink on this This house should be
:04:12. > :04:23.saying, "Not in our name." A former senior police officer
:04:24. > :04:25.is worried about the impact My Lords, the terrorists
:04:26. > :04:32.and the paedophiles and the drug barons will
:04:33. > :04:35.breathe a sigh of relief. The British ones return
:04:36. > :04:37.for business as usual as We have once opted out of all these
:04:38. > :04:47.arrangements and this Prime Minister as Home Secretary opted back into
:04:48. > :04:51.the most important of the security, law enforcement and justice and
:04:52. > :04:57.intelligence sharing arrangements. We need a kind of reverse
:04:58. > :05:00.grandfathering now to accept and acknowledge the judgments of the
:05:01. > :05:09.CJEU in this narrow sphere, we will, by the noble Lord Finkelstein late
:05:10. > :05:16.last night in this debate, be holding on to the branch halfway
:05:17. > :05:21.down the cliff when it breaks. And in that event,
:05:22. > :05:25.all of the people, my Lords, of Europe will
:05:26. > :05:31.be at greater risk. It is obviously an important debate
:05:32. > :05:33.but I hope you will forgive me if I say that there is a certain
:05:34. > :05:37.degree of unreality about it. Unreality not just because so many
:05:38. > :05:39.people are anxious to re-fight old battles, but also
:05:40. > :05:41.that the discussion is about a negotiation,
:05:42. > :05:47.but there is no negotiation. No negotiation is
:05:48. > :05:49.taking place at the moment, and so to a certain extent,
:05:50. > :05:53.it is so much hot air talking about what might happen
:05:54. > :05:55.on what you might do. It is not until we actually get
:05:56. > :06:00.into the negotiation that we then will start to encounter reality,
:06:01. > :06:08.and so the first thing I would want to say to our front
:06:09. > :06:11.bench is in my view we should trigger article 50
:06:12. > :06:13.as soon as possible. Maybe not even wait
:06:14. > :06:15.until the enactment of this. The more time that is spent
:06:16. > :06:17.before article 50 is enacted, the more time
:06:18. > :06:19.there is for people to waste their energy
:06:20. > :06:21.and The Lords will start to debate
:06:22. > :06:33.possible amendments next week. There will be votes -
:06:34. > :06:35.and possible Government defeats - Now, the Foreign Secretary Boris
:06:36. > :06:38.Johnson had his first meeting with the US Secretary
:06:39. > :06:41.of State Rex Tillerson last week At foreign office question-time,
:06:42. > :06:45.Mps were curious to know I met Rex Tillerson in Bonn last
:06:46. > :06:48.Thursday and Friday. We had some very good
:06:49. > :06:52.conversations and I am sure we will be having many more
:06:53. > :06:55.meetings in the weeks and months ahead to entrench and deepen
:06:56. > :06:59.a relationship that has been part of the foundation of global peace
:07:00. > :07:02.and prosperity for the last 70 Could the Foreign
:07:03. > :07:10.Secretary confirm to me that when he met
:07:11. > :07:12.with the Secretary said unequivocally that Her
:07:13. > :07:19.Majesty's Government thinks the ban on travel by President Trump imposed
:07:20. > :07:25.to Muslim countries is simply wrong? The honourable member
:07:26. > :07:27.will know very clearly and very, very well
:07:28. > :07:30.that this Government did not
:07:31. > :07:32.support the travel measures that were introduced
:07:33. > :07:35.by the executive order. We didn't think that
:07:36. > :07:37.they were something that It wasn't the kind of
:07:38. > :07:40.policy that we would like to see enacted
:07:41. > :07:42.in this We made that view very clear
:07:43. > :07:47.to our friends in America and it was by engaging constructively
:07:48. > :07:54.with the White House and with others that we were able to secure
:07:55. > :07:58.the important clarification that the executive order made absolutely no
:07:59. > :08:00.difference to any British passport holder, irrespective
:08:01. > :08:05.of country of birth. Was it the Foreign Secretary's
:08:06. > :08:08.idea to offer a state visit to President Trump
:08:09. > :08:12.after seven days in office? And given that the Foreign
:08:13. > :08:15.Secretary once famously declared he wouldn't go to New York
:08:16. > :08:18.in case he was mistaken for Mr Trump, is there any chance that
:08:19. > :08:21.President Trump will not come to London on a state visit in case
:08:22. > :08:24.he is mistaken for the Foreign I'm embarrassed to tell you,
:08:25. > :08:31.Mr Speaker, that not only... I was mistaken for
:08:32. > :08:33.Mr Trump I think in A very humbling
:08:34. > :08:43.experience it was, as you Who was the exact
:08:44. > :08:53.progenitor of the excellent idea to accord an invitation
:08:54. > :08:58.to the president to come on a state visit but the invitation
:08:59. > :09:01.has been issued. I think it is a wholly appropriate
:09:02. > :09:05.thing for the British Government to Mr Speaker, would my Right
:09:06. > :09:13.Honourable friend agree that at a time when there is fresh
:09:14. > :09:16.fighting in the Ukraine, at a time when Russia continues
:09:17. > :09:22.to carry out large-scale exercises close to the borders of
:09:23. > :09:25.the Baltic states, some of them with nuclear capable equipments,
:09:26. > :09:27.would he agree that time in recent years when our
:09:28. > :09:32.relationship with America and keeping Nato together has been
:09:33. > :09:39.so important for Europe as a whole? My right honourable
:09:40. > :09:40.friend is completely right and that is why
:09:41. > :09:42.it was so important that the Prime
:09:43. > :09:44.Minister on her very the White House secured from Donald
:09:45. > :09:51.Trump the 100% commitment to our Nato alliance which has been
:09:52. > :09:55.a guarantor of peace in our times. President Trump boasts of running
:09:56. > :09:58.a finely tuned machine, but the truth is that when it comes
:09:59. > :10:02.to the world's major crises, from Ukraine
:10:03. > :10:06.to Syria, from Afghanistan Now, I hear from the Secretary
:10:07. > :10:13.of State that there is new thinking, yet we have yet
:10:14. > :10:15.to see any incoherent The finely tuned machine hasn't
:10:16. > :10:24.stalled so much as it hasn't got going yet and the resulting vacuum
:10:25. > :10:27.is being filled by the Russians, with peace talks on Syria and
:10:28. > :10:30.Afghanistan taking place without US Is the Secretary of State
:10:31. > :10:33.happy to keep waiting for President Trump's cue, or is
:10:34. > :10:36.he capable of thinking for himself? Are we going to see a British
:10:37. > :10:39.involvement in any of these countries, and if so,
:10:40. > :10:41.where is he going to I may say, I think
:10:42. > :10:48.the finely tuned machine that is the Labour Party
:10:49. > :10:51.is a fine one to offer any kind
:10:52. > :10:54.of little advice to the American As she knows very well,
:10:55. > :11:03.it is in fact the UK that has been in the lead on trying to find
:11:04. > :11:07.a solution in Yemen. It is the UK that is in the lead
:11:08. > :11:16.in Somalia, in trying to maintain a commitment,
:11:17. > :11:19.and I think that in all fairness she should recognise
:11:20. > :11:21.that the current area of diplomacy that is being considered
:11:22. > :11:23.by the United States in respect of Syria is
:11:24. > :11:26.a course that the UK has principally advocated, which is one
:11:27. > :11:29.in which the Russians and the Iranians are separated
:11:30. > :11:33.in their interests and we move towards a political solution
:11:34. > :11:36.and it session away from the A Conservative has said taxpayers'
:11:37. > :11:46.money shouldn't be wasted, as he put it, on trying
:11:47. > :11:48.to rehabilitate prisoners That comment from Philip Davies came
:11:49. > :11:53.as the Justice Committee took evidence on proposals to reform
:11:54. > :11:55.the prison system in I suspect this was proposed to make
:11:56. > :12:05.rehabilitation a statutory purpose. Is that likely to make any change
:12:06. > :12:08.to commissioning decisions? It certainly brings
:12:09. > :12:11.a different focus to commissioning decisions
:12:12. > :12:13.but, of course, once you have the statutory
:12:14. > :12:15.purpose, then your eyes are on what are purposes
:12:16. > :12:17.of the services That is not to say that services
:12:18. > :12:21.are not already geared towards resettlement
:12:22. > :12:24.and preparation for realease. But the point is
:12:25. > :12:26.they will have to be In balance and where we target
:12:27. > :12:34.scarce resources in the future, value for money
:12:35. > :12:36.in terms of public money... Then there is a key driver
:12:37. > :12:40.there to say one of the purposes of imprisionment is
:12:41. > :12:44.absolutely to focus on that. I'm guessing you would all
:12:45. > :12:46.welcome the fact that I think it is one of
:12:47. > :12:50.the things that has I think it is necessary
:12:51. > :12:55.to have a good and robust understanding of the
:12:56. > :12:58.sorts of activities you would like to see that you think would lead
:12:59. > :13:01.to rehabilitation and not just a simple measure of saying,
:13:02. > :13:03.rehabilitation Rehabilitation for someone
:13:04. > :13:07.with multiple and complex needs, who is very far away from the labour
:13:08. > :13:10.market, mental health issues, drug and alcohol
:13:11. > :13:12.addiction, is going to need a particular kind of rehabilitation
:13:13. > :13:19.that may be different from someone who is able and engaging
:13:20. > :13:22.with education and looking for work on the out
:13:23. > :13:23.and on It strikes me that some offenders
:13:24. > :13:28.are in a position where they want to turn their lives around and some
:13:29. > :13:32.of them are determined not to turn Surely we should be encouraging
:13:33. > :13:35.governments to cherry pick the offenders who want to turn
:13:36. > :13:38.their lives around and throw the resources at them,
:13:39. > :13:40.rather than spread them evenly on people who do
:13:41. > :13:45.not want to turn their lives around. There is a real danger that
:13:46. > :13:48.if we do not work with those people with complex needs,
:13:49. > :13:50.they're going to be the people coming in
:13:51. > :13:52.and out of the prison costing the prison service
:13:53. > :13:56.a They are going to be
:13:57. > :13:59.and out of the A, costing the NHS a lot of money.
:14:00. > :14:01.They are going to be creating more victims
:14:02. > :14:03.in our communities when they get released
:14:04. > :14:05.because they do not have the right level of support.
:14:06. > :14:13.I think it is really, really important that we
:14:14. > :14:17.look at how people are engaged in the processes and looking at how
:14:18. > :14:21.many times did you go back and try to change the provision
:14:22. > :14:24.to make it fit the needs of those individuals that were furthest away?
:14:25. > :14:28.That might look different for different people.
:14:29. > :14:30.He was talking about someone with mental health
:14:31. > :14:39.It might be about informal learning and moving into that
:14:40. > :14:41.but it is about progress on their individual measures.
:14:42. > :14:47.By the end of the day, we are trying to measure
:14:48. > :14:49.the success or otherwise of what the Government is doing
:14:50. > :14:53.and your premise is basically for the Government to
:14:54. > :15:06.Nothing has really changed, but I have taken
:15:07. > :15:08.somebody from being a million miles away
:15:09. > :15:10.from turning their lives around and he
:15:11. > :15:14.It's a triumph and isn't it wonderful?
:15:15. > :15:15.Surely, we need to have some proper measures.
:15:16. > :15:18.Surely the only real measure should be whether or not
:15:19. > :15:20.people when they are released from prison reoffend or not.
:15:21. > :15:23.That is what we're set up to do, to stop people
:15:24. > :15:27.What you don't want is to incentivise people to put money into
:15:28. > :15:29.somebody who is going to succeed anyway and then be profligate
:15:30. > :15:34.That is taking it to an extreme but that would be a
:15:35. > :15:37.disgraceful use of public money and I can't imagine anybody would set
:15:38. > :15:40.But you could incentivise bad behaviour.
:15:41. > :15:43.What you want to do is to try and get the balance, I
:15:44. > :15:46.would argue, between focusing on people who are change ready and
:15:47. > :15:50.giving them that push and helping them but there are a whole load of
:15:51. > :15:53.other people who may become more dangerous if we do not spend
:15:54. > :15:57.As Nina said, we need to move towards that.
:15:58. > :16:00.For some people, that will take several times.
:16:01. > :16:02.We owe it to the public to make sure that
:16:03. > :16:07.You're watching Tuesday in Parliament with me,
:16:08. > :16:15.Ministers have put forward plans to stop 'blood stained dictators'
:16:16. > :16:21.The change, which came during the Criminal Finances Bill,
:16:22. > :16:24.followed the case of Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer
:16:25. > :16:31.who blew the whistle on a massive fraud in that country.
:16:32. > :16:33.In November 2008, Magnitsky was arrested and
:16:34. > :16:34.detained, his crime had been to identify
:16:35. > :16:40.biggest tax fraud in Russian history permitted by the Russian Government
:16:41. > :16:46.against the investment firm that employed, but also against the
:16:47. > :16:49.Russian taxpayer to the tune of a mind-boggling 230 million US
:16:50. > :16:57.For his courage, Magnitsky was jailed and tortured for
:16:58. > :17:00.almost a year and then ultimately murdered.
:17:01. > :17:04.Large amounts of the stolen money was subsequently
:17:05. > :17:09.laundered out of Russia in Hermitage capital
:17:10. > :17:14.the relative UK authorities of 30 million US dollars that was sent to
:17:15. > :17:17.the UK between around 2008 and 2012, including by firms owned by the
:17:18. > :17:21.Despite receiving this evidence, neither the
:17:22. > :17:24.Metropolitan Police, the Serious Organised Crime Agency,
:17:25. > :17:27.the Serious Fraud Office, each MRC, nor the
:17:28. > :17:34.National Crime Agency have opened a single investigation.
:17:35. > :17:41.And notwithstanding the comments that
:17:42. > :17:43.were made, this case, I believe, does shine
:17:44. > :17:44.a light on the weaknesses of
:17:45. > :17:46.our own justice system, which is really what
:17:47. > :17:52.We have to stop turning a blind eye to
:17:53. > :17:55.the blood money of butchers and despots which frankly close all too
:17:56. > :18:03.freely through some UK businesses, banks and property.
:18:04. > :18:06.Dominic Raab put forward an amendment to the bill that
:18:07. > :18:08.would allow judges to freeze the assets of those involved
:18:09. > :18:12.The minister rejected the proposal arguing it would pave the way
:18:13. > :18:18.What I have done, though, is come today to the
:18:19. > :18:21.house with an attempt to put a compromise in the statute that
:18:22. > :18:23.puts for the first time on record gross
:18:24. > :18:26.human rights abuse and hopefully we can send the right message to those
:18:27. > :18:28.regimes around the world and those criminals and individuals, but at
:18:29. > :18:31.the same time respect law enforcement agencies to make sure
:18:32. > :18:33.that they can carry out their job unhindered by political
:18:34. > :18:40.interference, third-party groups or anyone else who may want to use
:18:41. > :18:43.publicity rather than actual evidence as furthering their cause,
:18:44. > :18:51.and I think that is something that is really important.
:18:52. > :18:58.Earlier this year, or last year, the Guardian
:18:59. > :19:01.revealed through the Panama papers how a powerful member of Gaddafi's
:19:02. > :19:09.inner circle had built a multi-million pound portfolio of
:19:10. > :19:11.boutique hotels in Scotland and luxury homes in Mayfair,
:19:12. > :19:14.He was head of Libya's infrastructure fund for a
:19:15. > :19:17.decade, has been accused by Government prosecutors in Tripoli of
:19:18. > :19:18.plundering money intended for schools, hospitals and
:19:19. > :19:21.Scottish police have confirmed that they are
:19:22. > :19:25.Libya has made a request for an asset seizure but it
:19:26. > :19:30.is not as far as I understand been implemented.
:19:31. > :19:33.Mr Speaker, with the powers in this bill we could have
:19:34. > :19:35.dealt with injustices like this so much swifter
:19:36. > :19:38.general terms the provisions within this bill.
:19:39. > :19:48.Quite simply, those who have blood on their hands for the
:19:49. > :19:51.worst human rights abuses should not be able to funnal their dirty money
:19:52. > :19:55.And in a recent article in the New York Times, the
:19:56. > :19:57.journalist Ben Judah protests, and I quote,
:19:58. > :19:59.just because there aren't bodies piled up on the streets of
:20:00. > :20:02.London doesn't mean that London isn't a betting betting goes to pout
:20:03. > :20:05.The British establishment has long feigned
:20:06. > :20:07.ignorance of the business, but the London laundromat
:20:08. > :20:08.is destroying this country's reputation.
:20:09. > :20:12.It just feels as if the Government still has a view in its
:20:13. > :20:15.mind which is that you can somehow or other abuse some of these people
:20:16. > :20:23.around the world and that they want to pussyfoot around the issue.
:20:24. > :20:26.I just don't think that that meets the
:20:27. > :20:29.present danger and need and in particular the risk that there is to
:20:30. > :20:31.the financial impropriety and reputation of this country around
:20:32. > :20:39.Because we cannot prosper if we allow bribery and corruption
:20:40. > :20:42.to flourish in this country through the back door.
:20:43. > :20:45.Last week, when Parliament was in recess, Tony Blair made
:20:46. > :20:47.a significant intervention in the debate on Brexit.
:20:48. > :20:49.The former Prime Minister said it was his mission to persuade
:20:50. > :20:59.the British people to "rise up" against Brexit.
:21:00. > :21:02.Responding to his remarks the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson
:21:03. > :21:08.urged the British people to rise up and turn off the TV.
:21:09. > :21:25.A Labour MP tackled Mr Johnson about his comments.
:21:26. > :21:27.The fact is that instead of insulting the former Prime
:21:28. > :21:29.Minister Tony Blair as he did last week,
:21:30. > :21:30.will he take seriously the
:21:31. > :21:33.danger to this country of a hard Brexit that
:21:34. > :21:37.blank cheque and they want a real vote on how good the deal is with
:21:38. > :21:41.I don't think that anybody can seriously say that
:21:42. > :21:44.the former Prime Minister had been insulted by any remarks I made last
:21:45. > :21:49.What I was trying to get over was my strong feeling that the
:21:50. > :21:52.debate was had last year, everybody understands
:21:53. > :21:54.that were going forward with a new approach for this
:21:55. > :21:56.country, a global approach, and it will be a clean
:21:57. > :22:02.highly successful Brexit, as the Prime Minister has said.
:22:03. > :22:04.I refer to comments made last week by my
:22:05. > :22:05.Right Honourable friend the Foreign Secretary.
:22:06. > :22:08.Would he care to suggest what the great British public should
:22:09. > :22:11.watch on television, rather than the former
:22:12. > :22:14.Prime Minister and member for
:22:15. > :22:16.Sedgefield and his disgraced colleague and guacamole-loving
:22:17. > :22:27.Well, I'm very, very grateful to my honourable friend.
:22:28. > :22:35.I hesitate to advise the British public what to watch on television.
:22:36. > :22:40.But I have to say that I think they will exercise their infinite
:22:41. > :22:45.sagacity and wisdom in not heeding the sour voices of those who are
:22:46. > :22:52.trying to overturn the democratic decision of the people of this
:22:53. > :22:56.country last year to embark on a course that I think will lead
:22:57. > :23:00.us not only to democratic emancipation but
:23:01. > :23:07.to a new course of global prosperity?
:23:08. > :23:09.MPs wanted to know whether scientific collaboration with other
:23:10. > :23:17.The Government aims to secure the best possible outcome for UK
:23:18. > :23:21.European Union and bought the EU and the UK have
:23:22. > :23:24.importance of continuing to work together to produce high-quality
:23:25. > :23:27.research, so both at home and abroad, we will remain at the
:23:28. > :23:31.Could I asked the Minister to ensure that scientific cooperation in
:23:32. > :23:32.Europe is also extended to the preservation
:23:33. > :23:38.Indeed, especially perhaps as my Right
:23:39. > :23:40.Honourable friend the Foreign Secretary
:23:41. > :23:42.is living proof that the
:23:43. > :23:49.woolly mammoth can return from extension.
:23:50. > :23:52.Now, do you remember the advice that the then
:23:53. > :23:54.Conservative Minister - Norman Tebbit - gave to people
:23:55. > :24:00.He told them that this father had "got on his bike" to look for a job.
:24:01. > :24:05.Well, those words were thrown back at Lord Tebbit, in good humour,
:24:06. > :24:07.as he complained about the impact of cyclists.
:24:08. > :24:10.It sometimes takes over an hour to drive
:24:11. > :24:13.from Parliament Square to the
:24:14. > :24:20.That has been caused by the barricades which have
:24:21. > :24:29.been put up in order to assist cyclists, who also get in the way
:24:30. > :24:46.The Noble Lord opposite speaks very impertinently towards me and other
:24:47. > :24:48.people of my age who would find great difficulty in cycling on
:24:49. > :24:55.But a principal cause of the excess nitrous
:24:56. > :24:59.oxide in the air in this area of Westminster and along
:25:00. > :25:01.the embankment is those wretched barricades which
:25:02. > :25:09.have been put up by the former mayor.
:25:10. > :25:14.My Lords, I hope I can continue in the right vein by saying
:25:15. > :25:19.I would advise the circle and district line is a very good way of
:25:20. > :25:26.getting from here to the tower and that part of London.
:25:27. > :25:27.A diplomatic response there from the Minister.
:25:28. > :25:29.Well, that's it from Tuesday in Parliament.
:25:30. > :25:31.But do join me at the same time tomorrow.
:25:32. > :25:38.Until then, from me, Kristiina Cooper, goodbye!