21/03/2017

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0:00:21 > 0:00:23Hello, there, and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25Coming up on this programme...

0:00:25 > 0:00:27The Government's accused of not doing enough to tackle

0:00:27 > 0:00:30money-laundering after a national newspaper claims millions of pounds

0:00:30 > 0:00:31have run through British banks.

0:00:31 > 0:00:35So we might as well go from here, go to Heathrow and put up

0:00:35 > 0:00:40a welcome sign for Russian murderers and money-launderers.

0:00:40 > 0:00:43MPs condemn a ticketing website after its representatives failed

0:00:43 > 0:00:47to turn up to give evidence to a Commons committee.

0:00:47 > 0:00:50And the Health Secretary dismisses fears that Brexit is triggering

0:00:50 > 0:00:53a flight of EU doctors from the NHS.

0:00:53 > 0:01:03The number of doctors joining the NHS from the EU

0:01:04 > 0:01:06was higher in the four months following the referendum

0:01:06 > 0:01:09result, than the same four months the previous year.

0:01:09 > 0:01:11But first a Treasury minister has told MPs that allegations that UK

0:01:11 > 0:01:14banks have been involved in a Russian money-laundering scam

0:01:14 > 0:01:16will be assessed closely to see if they need investigating.

0:01:16 > 0:01:18High street names, including HSBC, the Royal Bank of Scotland

0:01:18 > 0:01:21and Barclays, are among those accused of processing

0:01:21 > 0:01:23around ?600 million, according to the Guardian newspaper.

0:01:23 > 0:01:27All have insisted they comply with the relevant regulations.

0:01:27 > 0:01:30Called to the Commons to answer an urgent question,

0:01:30 > 0:01:33the Treasury Minister, Simon Kirby, said the

0:01:33 > 0:01:35Financial Conduct Authority and the National Crime Agency took

0:01:35 > 0:01:40the allegations seriously.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42The Financial Conduct Authority and the National Crime Agency take

0:01:42 > 0:01:47any such allegation seriously, and will investigate closely

0:01:47 > 0:01:51whether recent information from the Guardian newspaper

0:01:51 > 0:01:57regarding money-laundering from Russia, or indeed

0:01:57 > 0:01:58any other media source, would allow the progression

0:01:59 > 0:02:00of an investigation.

0:02:00 > 0:02:02But beyond that we need to ensure sophisticated

0:02:02 > 0:02:04criminal networks cannot exploit our financial

0:02:04 > 0:02:08services industry.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12Since 2010, we've already seized 1.4 billion in illegal funds and put

0:02:12 > 0:02:15hundreds of millions more beyond the reach of criminals.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19We've set up the Panama Papers task force, we've hosted the global

0:02:19 > 0:02:21anti-corruption summit last year, and now we are preparing

0:02:21 > 0:02:24the most significant changes to our anti-money laundering

0:02:24 > 0:02:30and terrorist finance regime in over a decade.

0:02:30 > 0:02:32Could I say that I don't believe the Minister recognises the immense

0:02:32 > 0:02:35gravity of the situation that we're facing, and that statement

0:02:35 > 0:02:37reflected, I believe, a complacency on the part

0:02:37 > 0:02:41of the Government itself.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43It's obvious from today's revelations that the current

0:02:43 > 0:02:45arrangements are not working, Mr Speaker.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48There is widespread organised and sophisticated criminal activity.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52Where the Government owns major stakes in banks involved,

0:02:52 > 0:02:57particularly RBS, and since it's no longer able to off that stake,

0:02:57 > 0:02:59there's an immediate need for the Government to reassure

0:02:59 > 0:03:03taxpayers that publicly-owned banks are not indirectly involved

0:03:03 > 0:03:07in criminal activity.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10What steps will the government be taking, as a major shareholder

0:03:10 > 0:03:12in RBS, to investigate the allegations against RBS

0:03:12 > 0:03:16and reassure taxpayers?

0:03:16 > 0:03:19Yet again, our banks have been found to be wanting.

0:03:19 > 0:03:21Urgent action is needed by the Government to protect

0:03:21 > 0:03:26the standing of our finance actor, and indeed protect our economy.

0:03:26 > 0:03:31Complacency and inaction is not good enough.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34The Government is far from complacent.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36We have, as I outlined earlier, we've been updating the UK's

0:03:36 > 0:03:38money-laundering regulations.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41The criminal finance bill in the other place will, I hope,

0:03:41 > 0:03:43receive Royal Assent in the near future, and will create

0:03:44 > 0:03:47new powers for enforcement agencies.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50Surely when one looks at the outcome of the extent of this,

0:03:50 > 0:03:54it's just too much to believe that we're the world leader

0:03:54 > 0:03:58in money-laundering regulation in general.

0:03:58 > 0:04:05Surely if time to have another look at this.

0:04:05 > 0:04:08And thirdly one of the key concerns many in this House have had

0:04:08 > 0:04:11about the banks over recent years is the way in which they have not

0:04:11 > 0:04:13had a supportive regime for whistle-blowing.

0:04:13 > 0:04:16Surely we need to encourage, not inhibit whistle-blowing?

0:04:16 > 0:04:19In order to counter the impression that is being promoted

0:04:19 > 0:04:25beyond his competence, could the minister tell us

0:04:25 > 0:04:27which British banks have been convicted of money-laundering over

0:04:27 > 0:04:31the last five years, and what specific individual

0:04:31 > 0:04:34thing he's learned from reading those judgments?

0:04:34 > 0:04:37The FCA has carried out a number of enforcement actions,

0:04:37 > 0:04:39both large and small, over a number of different

0:04:39 > 0:04:42financial services.

0:04:42 > 0:04:46It is right and proper that the balance between fairness

0:04:46 > 0:04:50and responsible behaviour is struck at all times.

0:04:50 > 0:04:54It seems to me, and I think many others, that there

0:04:54 > 0:05:01is an unwritten deal here, which is essentially that Russians

0:05:01 > 0:05:05and others of dubious or legal means come to this country.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07They send their kids to our schools.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10They buy our real estate, or our sports clubs,

0:05:10 > 0:05:14and get involved in this country on the basis, and this

0:05:14 > 0:05:16is the other side of the deal, that whilst they are here,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21they do no wrong.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24That is not an acceptable way on which to go forward.

0:05:24 > 0:05:28If it ever was, it no longer is.

0:05:28 > 0:05:32And I put it to my honourable friend, is it not now the time

0:05:32 > 0:05:34to have a rethink about this issue?

0:05:34 > 0:05:36How many money-launderers have been sent to prison

0:05:36 > 0:05:37in the last five years?

0:05:37 > 0:05:41A very sensible question!

0:05:41 > 0:05:42Minister!

0:05:42 > 0:05:44I thank my honourable friend for that question.

0:05:44 > 0:05:48I'm not aware of the exact answer to that, but I will write to him

0:05:48 > 0:05:50with all the information that I have.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52The home affairs committee estimate that 100 billion is laundered

0:05:52 > 0:05:54through London every year.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56But only 0.17% of that has been frozen.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59So we might as well go from here, go to Heathrow and put up

0:05:59 > 0:06:03a welcome sign for Russian murderers and money-launderers.

0:06:03 > 0:06:06Can I ask the Minister why the Chancellor's not here?

0:06:06 > 0:06:09Because, frankly, his answers have been appalling today.

0:06:09 > 0:06:13Some ?80 billion worth of money could have been laundered,

0:06:13 > 0:06:16according to this story.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19Does he not think that we should think again about the powers

0:06:19 > 0:06:23that the FCA and other regulators have to prevent this happening?

0:06:23 > 0:06:26Can he please answer some questions?

0:06:26 > 0:06:28Minister.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31I'm very sorry, Mr Speaker, I have been doing my very best

0:06:31 > 0:06:34to answer the questions that have been asked.

0:06:34 > 0:06:36Sadly, I can't be held responsible for the quality

0:06:36 > 0:06:38or content of the question.

0:06:38 > 0:06:41What I would say is that I'm the Minister responsible

0:06:41 > 0:06:50for financial services.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52The FCA, and indeed through our legal legislation here in this place

0:06:52 > 0:06:55and the other place, we are responsible for legislating

0:06:55 > 0:06:56the criminal finance bill.

0:06:56 > 0:06:58It's an example of what we're doing to improve things.

0:06:58 > 0:06:59That is answering your question.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03It's an example of what we're doing now, as we speak, to improve things.

0:07:03 > 0:07:05And the FCA are in constant dialogue not only with the banks,

0:07:05 > 0:07:09but with government to make sure that they move with the Times.

0:07:09 > 0:07:16The online ticketing site viagogo has come under fire from MPs

0:07:16 > 0:07:19for failing to turn up to a hearing on ticket sales abuse.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22The Culture, Media and Sport Committee has been taking evidence

0:07:22 > 0:07:25on the issue a week after viagogo was accused of "moral repugnance"

0:07:25 > 0:07:30over the retail of concert tickets in a teenage cancer patients.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33The MPs heard from Ed Sheeran's manager, and music and theatre

0:07:33 > 0:07:37figures, about vastly inflated figures being asked for tickets that

0:07:37 > 0:07:41in some instances did not exist, or would not be honoured.

0:07:41 > 0:07:47The chair opened the session highlighting viagogo's empty chair.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50It is a considerable disappointment to us that viagogo have decided not

0:07:50 > 0:07:55to send a representative, despite the fact that they have

0:07:55 > 0:07:58a substantial office in Cannon Street in London.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01They do not believe that they have adequate representation in the UK

0:08:01 > 0:08:03in order to assist the committee with its enquiry.

0:08:03 > 0:08:07Can I share your frustration, Chair, about viagogo not

0:08:07 > 0:08:09being present today.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12If not contempt of Parliament, this clearly shows a lack of respect

0:08:12 > 0:08:14to parliamentarians and, by extension, the British public.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17I think we all need to be very angry at that.

0:08:17 > 0:08:20If we had a tub of lard or a handbag available,

0:08:20 > 0:08:22I'm sure we would have put it on the chair today.

0:08:22 > 0:08:28A great deal of care has gone into trying to ensure that tickets

0:08:28 > 0:08:32for Hamilton go to people that are buying the tickets legitimately.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35But some have ended up on secondary sites,

0:08:35 > 0:08:42for sale sites like viagogo, for ?2500 a go.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45What action do you feel you can take, do you feel

0:08:45 > 0:08:47that is the action of touts, or just opportunistic fans?

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Well, first of all, it's more than ?2500.

0:08:49 > 0:08:53They were originally listed between the ?350-7500.

0:08:53 > 0:08:55And they only appear on viagogo.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58Looking at those listings, I can prove that some

0:08:58 > 0:09:01of them don't exist, that the speculative.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04In fact, I don't know how many people have a copy

0:09:04 > 0:09:06of the letter I wrote to Nigel and to Trading Standards,

0:09:06 > 0:09:08and to the CMA.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12But I've included in there examples of at least 40,

0:09:12 > 0:09:15maybe 50 tickets I know don't exist that they're selling on their sites.

0:09:15 > 0:09:16You observed these tickets for sale.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18You've told viagogo...

0:09:18 > 0:09:20Well, they were aware of the terms anyway.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22Of course they were.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25They know the tickets were not supposed to be resold.

0:09:25 > 0:09:26It was in the national press.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29And you've warned them of what will happen.

0:09:29 > 0:09:31Effectively, they are virtually party to a fraud, aren't they?

0:09:31 > 0:09:33They're making money out of fraudulently selling tickets.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37I would say so.

0:09:37 > 0:09:41They're certainly making fraudulent sales on the ticket we don't have.

0:09:41 > 0:09:46The more we hear about viagogo, it strikes me these people make

0:09:46 > 0:09:49Stan Flashman look like Mother Teresa.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53I was fairly horrified when I heard about tickets for a charity gig that

0:09:53 > 0:09:56Ed Sheeran was doing for Teenage Cancer, going on resale

0:09:56 > 0:10:00well for over ?1000.

0:10:00 > 0:10:04Could you just tell the committee...

0:10:04 > 0:10:06It was a lot more than that.

0:10:06 > 0:10:07Was it a lot more than that?

0:10:07 > 0:10:10Yeah, last Tuesday we were playing a Teenage Cancer Trust show

0:10:10 > 0:10:11at the Royal Albert Hall.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13I think top ticket...

0:10:13 > 0:10:16Tickets ranged from I think it was ?40 to 110.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19And there were tickets going for over ?5,000 on viagogo.

0:10:19 > 0:10:22Knowing that we were going to have such demand for the show,

0:10:22 > 0:10:27we wrote to all four sites, the main secondary sites,

0:10:27 > 0:10:30first of all asking them not to list the show, and secondly informing

0:10:30 > 0:10:32them that as part of our terms

0:10:32 > 0:10:34and conditions of the show, that re-sale was not allowed

0:10:34 > 0:10:37and if we were able to find anyone that had purchased tickets

0:10:37 > 0:10:40in the secondary market, they would not be allowed

0:10:40 > 0:10:41admittance to the show.

0:10:41 > 0:10:44All four sites ignored our request, and all four sites listed tickets

0:10:44 > 0:10:47and inflated prices knowing that it's our intention to cancel

0:10:47 > 0:10:51those tickets and not admit their customers.

0:10:51 > 0:10:55Similar action had already been taken at other concerts.

0:10:55 > 0:11:01Catfish And The Bottlemen at Wembley Arena was one such example.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04We literally had a queue 100 yards long, 450 people,

0:11:04 > 0:11:05half of which were in tears.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08The other half didn't have another credit card,

0:11:08 > 0:11:11so they couldn't go to the box office and repurchase.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13We applied some element of humanity to it.

0:11:13 > 0:11:16But to actually stick to the point, we turned away

0:11:16 > 0:11:21a good 80% of that queue.

0:11:21 > 0:11:22Their advice?

0:11:22 > 0:11:24Buy from a primary seller.

0:11:24 > 0:11:28Our fan relationship is what our career is built on.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31And the fact that a lot of people don't even know the difference

0:11:31 > 0:11:34between secondary and private, which is the harshest thing,

0:11:34 > 0:11:36and that's the thing that really annoys us.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40So it's just about people not being ripped off.

0:11:40 > 0:11:44I just took up Missy Elliott's challenged to see how you would buy

0:11:44 > 0:11:50a ticket to Ed Sheeran just by googling.

0:11:50 > 0:11:53And viagogo just pops up right at the top.

0:11:53 > 0:11:57And it's interesting, given what you've said, viagogo,

0:11:57 > 0:12:00world's largest ticket market based, all tickets for Ed Sheeran

0:12:00 > 0:12:02100% guaranteed.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04Well, that's fraud.

0:12:04 > 0:12:05Yeah.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08Because you're saying to us and the committee today that

0:12:08 > 0:12:10you don't guarantee the tickets.

0:12:10 > 0:12:12In fact, the absolute opposite.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14Tickets are not guaranteed and tickets are invalid.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17Right.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19So let's call it out for what it is.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23Viagogo is lying to the public here.

0:12:23 > 0:12:28Yes.

0:12:28 > 0:12:30A Labour peer is calling for a change in the rules

0:12:30 > 0:12:33on the pensions payable to the partners of police officers

0:12:33 > 0:12:34killed in the line of duty.

0:12:34 > 0:12:41Lord Bach argued the current system was unfair and he had an example.

0:12:41 > 0:12:47On the 15th of August 2002, two Leicestershire police officers,

0:12:47 > 0:12:49police constables, were brutally killed by a criminal

0:12:49 > 0:12:51driver on the A42.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53They not only both died in the same incident,

0:12:53 > 0:12:58they both left young widows and small children.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01One widow remarried seven years later in 2009 and lost her

0:13:01 > 0:13:06police widow's pension.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09The other widow remarried in 2015 and because of a change in the law

0:13:09 > 0:13:15has kept her police widow's pension.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18How in all conscience can it be right that two women,

0:13:18 > 0:13:25both of whose husbands were killed while bravely fighting crime

0:13:25 > 0:13:29and in the line of duty on the same case can be treated so differently

0:13:29 > 0:13:31by the country that owes so much to both of them?

0:13:31 > 0:13:34Could I ask the minister whether she would please look

0:13:34 > 0:13:38at this case again and doesn't she agree that such obvious

0:13:38 > 0:13:41unfairness offends against every principle this House believes in?

0:13:41 > 0:13:49Absolutely, without talking about individual cases,

0:13:49 > 0:13:52it is tragic that police officers are killed in the line

0:13:52 > 0:14:02of public duty.

0:14:05 > 0:14:13When it does happen it is right we should honour

0:14:13 > 0:14:19the officers' memory

0:14:19 > 0:14:21and sacrifice and that is why this Government has changed the rules

0:14:21 > 0:14:25so all survivors of police officers who died on duty do not now face

0:14:25 > 0:14:27the prospect of losing their pension on remarriage.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30That is a change that no previous Government has felt able to make.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33But we must continue to have regard to the wider implications of changes

0:14:33 > 0:14:34to public service pensions.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37It is the duty of Government to ensure that any police changes

0:14:37 > 0:14:38are legally and financially sound.

0:14:38 > 0:14:41And I don't pretend that the judgment is always an easy

0:14:41 > 0:14:43one but it is one we must make.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45And on the aspect of retrospective changes, my lords, successive

0:14:45 > 0:14:47governments have maintained a general presumption

0:14:47 > 0:14:49against retrospective changes to public service pensions,

0:14:49 > 0:14:54and I'm afraid that remains in place.

0:14:54 > 0:15:00You're watching Tuesday in Parliament, with me,

0:15:00 > 0:15:03Alicia McCarthy.

0:15:03 > 0:15:07Nicola Sturgeon has insisted

0:15:07 > 0:15:10Scotland's future should be decided by the people who live there rather

0:15:10 > 0:15:15than being imposed upon us.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17The First Minister was speaking as she asked Holyrood

0:15:17 > 0:15:19to back her call for a second independence referendum.

0:15:19 > 0:15:26Ms Sturgeon wants a vote to be held in the autumn of next year

0:15:26 > 0:15:29or the spring of 2019 but the UK Government

0:15:29 > 0:15:30has already said it would

0:15:30 > 0:15:31block the move until after Brexit.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34Nicola Sturgeon said she understood why many people didn't relish

0:15:34 > 0:15:36a second referendum - but she said the alternative

0:15:36 > 0:15:46to planning now was to drift through the next two years.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49It would mean accepting now that at the end of this process

0:15:49 > 0:15:52we would not even have the option of choosing an alternative path,

0:15:52 > 0:15:55but the direction of our nation would be decided for us.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57I do not consider that to be right or fair.

0:15:57 > 0:15:59The future of Scotland should not be imposed upon us.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02It should be the choice of the people of Scotland.

0:16:02 > 0:16:04But the call was rejected by the Scottish Conservative leader.

0:16:04 > 0:16:09Most people in Scotland are sick to death of the games.

0:16:09 > 0:16:12Most people in Scotland don't want another referendum any time soon

0:16:12 > 0:16:14just three years after the last one.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17And most people in Scotland see the plain common sense

0:16:17 > 0:16:20in our own position, that Brexit is going to be a major

0:16:20 > 0:16:23challenge for this country, and none of us know how it

0:16:23 > 0:16:25will play out.

0:16:25 > 0:16:29None of us know how we will come through it and none of us know

0:16:29 > 0:16:32what the impact will be for our country.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35Which is exactly why we question how can we make a decision on our future

0:16:35 > 0:16:38constitutional path at a time of such uncertainty?

0:16:38 > 0:16:41Why start an independence referendum campaign now at this very moment

0:16:41 > 0:16:45when the process of leaving the EU is only just beginning?

0:16:45 > 0:16:48And that debate concludes on Wednesday when MSPs will vote

0:16:48 > 0:16:53on whether or not to back that referendum call.

0:16:53 > 0:16:58The deputy speaker of the House of Commons has warned that

0:16:58 > 0:17:02parliamentarians risk becoming "virtual MPs" because of increasing

0:17:02 > 0:17:04fears for their safety following the murder

0:17:04 > 0:17:08of their colleague Jo Cox.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12Lindsay Hoyle was giving evidence to the Commons Home Affairs Committee

0:17:12 > 0:17:14whose enquiry into hate crime was set up in the wake

0:17:14 > 0:17:16of the MP's death in June.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18But the Committee Chair, Yvette Cooper, started off

0:17:18 > 0:17:24by asking him whether the number of online attacks against MPs,

0:17:24 > 0:17:30on platforms such as Twitter and Facebook, had also increased.

0:17:30 > 0:17:36In 1997, social media wasn't there as we know it.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38The fact is that most constituents came to a surgery

0:17:38 > 0:17:44or contacted you by letter.

0:17:44 > 0:17:48Now the whole game has changed and the fact is we are more exposed

0:17:48 > 0:17:50in a way we never expected to be previously.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52From '97 to now, it is light years apart.

0:17:52 > 0:17:58And the fact is that there are people out there who feel

0:17:58 > 0:18:00that we are there to be attacked.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02The keyboard warrior in the middle of the night feels

0:18:02 > 0:18:05that it is acceptable to encourage and inflame other people

0:18:05 > 0:18:07to then come on board.

0:18:07 > 0:18:13And it is how it grows from someone who passes their comments

0:18:13 > 0:18:16and their views, and then we get a fixated person who takes up that

0:18:16 > 0:18:20issue, and that is where I think we have a problem and that is where

0:18:20 > 0:18:21it is difficult.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23We have got a lot, each week, the numbers grow.

0:18:23 > 0:18:25And the evidence continues to grow.

0:18:25 > 0:18:27Would you agree it is an important part of our democracy

0:18:27 > 0:18:30that we all of us as MPs live in our constituency,

0:18:30 > 0:18:32work along with people we represent on a daily basis,

0:18:32 > 0:18:42go to different events all of the time, without having

0:18:42 > 0:18:45to fear for our safety or for threats, and that it

0:18:45 > 0:18:46is immensely important

0:18:46 > 0:18:49to try and continue that rather than have something where you end up

0:18:49 > 0:18:51being separated, instead of being embedded in democracy?

0:18:51 > 0:18:52Yes.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54If we become virtual MPs that would be the last

0:18:54 > 0:18:55thing any of us want.

0:18:55 > 0:18:58We are elected to serve our constituents, not only in London

0:18:58 > 0:19:00but in our constituencies as well.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03And the fact is if we cannot carry out the job we have lost democracy.

0:19:03 > 0:19:09Democracy has to be protected.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12There is not a price to be put on democracy,

0:19:12 > 0:19:15democracy has to continue.

0:19:15 > 0:19:25We have to continue that MPs feel they have got the support

0:19:26 > 0:19:28and the back-up and what we have got to be able

0:19:28 > 0:19:31to do is carry out the duties that our constituents elect

0:19:31 > 0:19:32us to do.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35That is not only to speak on their behalf but also to be seen

0:19:36 > 0:19:37and to listen to them at surgeries.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40Maybe we change the way we do surgeries but the bottom line

0:19:40 > 0:19:43is I believe basic politics is that that a Member of Parliament

0:19:43 > 0:19:45in that constituency that leads from the front,

0:19:45 > 0:19:48and in the end if you can't carry that out we have

0:19:48 > 0:19:50lost, and we must not lose, whatever happens.

0:19:50 > 0:19:53Our constituents matter and carrying out my duties as a member

0:19:53 > 0:19:56of Parliament is so important to me as it is for all of us.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59If you are a young woman, a young man of colour,

0:19:59 > 0:20:02a Muslim woman, or a Jewish woman, why would they enter politics

0:20:02 > 0:20:04today if all they read about is the threats that

0:20:04 > 0:20:05parliamentarians face, especially female parliamentarians?

0:20:05 > 0:20:06Very good question.

0:20:06 > 0:20:10The danger is that we go back to where we were were with white,

0:20:10 > 0:20:15male, middle-aged MPs.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18And as you look at it, I am ticking myself as that box.

0:20:18 > 0:20:22What I would say is male and stale is what we want to get away from,

0:20:22 > 0:20:26and we have to reflect society, and that is what I am saying to you.

0:20:26 > 0:20:28We have to reassure people that it is not the easiest job

0:20:29 > 0:20:31in the world but it is a great job.

0:20:31 > 0:20:33We are very lucky to be Members of Parliament.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36I want to make sure that everybody has a chance to be an MP.

0:20:36 > 0:20:39And nothing should put them off from becoming an MP.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41Whatever or whoever you are, all should have the same

0:20:41 > 0:20:42ability to be an MP.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45There should be no fear in there and if people feel

0:20:45 > 0:20:48that they don't want to do this job we will have failed.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51There should be no barriers, he said, which was why it was vital

0:20:51 > 0:20:53to get MPS' security and protection right.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55Meanwhile in Westminster Hall a Labour MP was moved to tears

0:20:55 > 0:20:58as she paid tribute to Jo Cox and urged MPs to unite

0:20:58 > 0:21:02and end discrimination.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05Dawn Butler was leading a debate calling on the Government to mark

0:21:05 > 0:21:06UN International Day for the Elimination

0:21:06 > 0:21:10of Racial Discrimination.

0:21:10 > 0:21:15Dawn Butler said MPs must unite together in one

0:21:15 > 0:21:18voice and build bridges, not walls as she paid tribute

0:21:18 > 0:21:20to her friend and former Labour MP.

0:21:20 > 0:21:27And even after this hateful, despicable crime from this

0:21:27 > 0:21:31terrorist her family wanted us to love like Jo.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35To repeat her mantra, that we are far more united and have

0:21:35 > 0:21:39far more in common with each other than that which divides us.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41This is why acknowledging this day, with the rest of the international

0:21:41 > 0:21:48community, is important.

0:21:48 > 0:21:53We must unite together in one voice and build bridges, not walls.

0:21:53 > 0:21:59She recited the words of the song she said was her theme tune

0:21:59 > 0:22:02when she faced discrimination.

0:22:02 > 0:22:06It was written and recorded

0:22:06 > 0:22:10by a British singer-songwriter, Labi Siffre, inspired

0:22:10 > 0:22:15by a television documentary on apartheid in South Africa,

0:22:15 > 0:22:18where they showed the filming of police killing black people.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21And the words are this.

0:22:21 > 0:22:26Something inside so strong.

0:22:26 > 0:22:32The higher you build your barriers, the taller I become.

0:22:32 > 0:22:38The farther you take my rights away the faster I will run.

0:22:38 > 0:22:42You can deny me, you can choose to turn your face away.

0:22:42 > 0:22:47No matter, because there's something inside so strong.

0:22:47 > 0:22:55Chair, I hope the Government commits to marking this day annually each

0:22:55 > 0:22:58year so that we never forget to remember those who gave

0:22:58 > 0:22:59their lives for equal rights.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03Although work remains to be done, in Britain today we can

0:23:03 > 0:23:05credibly claim to be a successful multiethnic country.

0:23:05 > 0:23:08Members of our African, Caribbean, Asian and other ethnic minority

0:23:08 > 0:23:12communities are represented in every area of British society,

0:23:12 > 0:23:16in business, academia, sport, the arts, and in politics.

0:23:16 > 0:23:19And the UK also has some of the strongest equality

0:23:19 > 0:23:21legislation in the world.

0:23:21 > 0:23:25But we know that on its own that is not enough.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28We have got to recognise and challenge racism and discrimination

0:23:28 > 0:23:33whenever they occur.

0:23:33 > 0:23:35And he said the Government was committed to standing up

0:23:35 > 0:23:38to injustice and inequality.

0:23:38 > 0:23:44The Health Secretary has dismissed fears that Brexit could produce

0:23:44 > 0:23:47an exodus of doctors who are EU nationals from the health service.

0:23:47 > 0:23:48The fear was raised when a Conservative asked

0:23:48 > 0:23:51what could be done to increase the numbers of family

0:23:51 > 0:23:54doctors in the NHS.

0:23:54 > 0:23:59In Taunton Deane we are short of trained professionals

0:23:59 > 0:24:05from dermatologists to nurses, but one of the worst shortages

0:24:05 > 0:24:08is for GPs with some practices not even able to get locums.

0:24:08 > 0:24:11So I know that the minister is working on this but could my

0:24:11 > 0:24:13right honourable friend update me on what the Department is doing

0:24:13 > 0:24:15to encourage more medical students to become GPs?

0:24:15 > 0:24:18It is hard to believe they don't want to come to Somerset,

0:24:18 > 0:24:20but what are we doing to encourage them?

0:24:20 > 0:24:23I would say to her what I would say to all medical students

0:24:23 > 0:24:26which is that general practice is going to be the biggest area

0:24:26 > 0:24:28of expansion for the NHS over the coming years.

0:24:28 > 0:24:32And in fact we are planning to have the biggest increase in GPs

0:24:32 > 0:24:34in the history of the NHS.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37It will take many years for those doctors he has just talked

0:24:37 > 0:24:40about to come on stream and we have a workforce

0:24:40 > 0:24:47crisis in the NHS now, partly because of the cuts

0:24:47 > 0:24:55the Government made in the last Parliament, but also

0:24:55 > 0:24:58because of their irrational pursuit of the hard Brexits.

0:24:58 > 0:25:01He could do something very simple today in terms of addressing this

0:25:01 > 0:25:04crisis in the short term and that is to announce that all EU

0:25:04 > 0:25:07nationals who do vital work in the NHS will be able to stay

0:25:07 > 0:25:09when we leave the European Union.

0:25:09 > 0:25:12The one simple thing we are not going to do on this side

0:25:12 > 0:25:18of the House is refuse to listen to what the British people said

0:25:18 > 0:25:20when they voted on June the 23rd.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22And we will do what they said.

0:25:22 > 0:25:23It is the right thing to do.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25But he is absolutely right to highlight the vital

0:25:25 > 0:25:28role that EU doctors, around 10,000 doctors in the NHS,

0:25:28 > 0:25:29do in this country.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31But I can reassure him that the number of doctors joining

0:25:31 > 0:25:34the NHS from the EU was higher in the four months following

0:25:34 > 0:25:37the referendum result than the same four months the previous year.

0:25:37 > 0:25:38Jeremy Hunt.

0:25:38 > 0:25:42And that's it from me for now but do join me at the same time tomorrow

0:25:42 > 0:25:44for another round up of the day at Westminster including

0:25:44 > 0:25:46the highlights of Prime Minister's Questions.

0:25:46 > 0:25:47But for now

0:25:47 > 0:25:57from me, goodbye.