0:00:20 > 0:00:25Hello and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament. Our look at the best of
0:00:25 > 0:00:29the day in the Commons and the Lords. On this programme, Boris
0:00:29 > 0:00:33Johnson says he is sorry if his words about a British woman jailed
0:00:33 > 0:00:37in Iran caused anxiety, but Labour strongly criticises the Foreign
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Secretary. Will the Foreign Secretary now
0:00:40 > 0:00:48apologise? He cannot be trusted to do this job and he should resign.
0:00:48 > 0:00:52She deflects blame, she deflect accountability from those who are
0:00:52 > 0:00:55truly responsible for holding that mother in jail.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58Also on this programme, should the International Development Secretary
0:00:58 > 0:01:02quit because of meetings she had on holiday while in Israel?
0:01:02 > 0:01:07Does the minister accept that it is time the Secretary of State Ivor
0:01:07 > 0:01:11faces a Cabinet Office investigation order the decent and just resigns?
0:01:11 > 0:01:16If I had been in Israel and on a two-day visit, I would have wanted a
0:01:16 > 0:01:19programme just like this. And arguments rage again over the
0:01:19 > 0:01:25release of documents on the economic impact of Brexit.There can be no
0:01:25 > 0:01:27further delay. Ministers just need to get on with it.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31Our purpose is not to create the kind of stories which the honourable
0:01:31 > 0:01:36gentleman seems to be pursuing. But first, the Foreign Secretary
0:01:36 > 0:01:38Boris Johnson has apologised to the family of a British woman imprisoned
0:01:38 > 0:01:44in Iran for marks Elwood remarks he made which, as Ben says, could lead
0:01:44 > 0:01:50to a prison term being lengthened. Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe is serving
0:01:50 > 0:01:53a five-year jail sentence for allegedly allotting to overthrow the
0:01:53 > 0:02:02government in Tehran. Boris Johnson had told MPs last week that Mrs
0:02:02 > 0:02:05Zaghari-Ratcliffe was simply teaching people journalism, a
0:02:05 > 0:02:08statement to family and employers that was untrue. Or as Johnson has
0:02:08 > 0:02:12faced calls for his resignation. When he came to the Commons, he told
0:02:12 > 0:02:17MPs that the government wanted to see the early release from jail of
0:02:17 > 0:02:20Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe.The UK Government has no doubt that she was
0:02:20 > 0:02:25on holiday in Iran when she was arrested last year, and that was the
0:02:25 > 0:02:32sole purpose of their visit. My point was that I disagreed with the
0:02:32 > 0:02:36Iranian view that training journalists was a crime, not that I
0:02:36 > 0:02:39wanted to lend any credence to Iranian allegations that Mrs
0:02:39 > 0:02:46Zaghari-Ratcliffe had been engaged in such activity. I except that my
0:02:46 > 0:02:50remarks could have been clearer in that respect, and I am glad to
0:02:50 > 0:02:55provide this clarification. I hope that he will now take the
0:02:55 > 0:02:58opportunity to apologise to this woman's family, to their friends and
0:02:58 > 0:03:03see their employers. How many more times does the Foreign Secretary
0:03:03 > 0:03:08have to consult our international partners, damage our diplomatic
0:03:08 > 0:03:10relations, and now in peril the interest of British National
0:03:13 > 0:03:21-- British national abroad? How much is it until the Prime Minister says
0:03:21 > 0:03:25enough is enough? But the truth is, she can't, because she does not have
0:03:25 > 0:03:29the strength or authority to sack him. How about the Foreign Secretary
0:03:29 > 0:03:32himself shows a bit of personal responsibility and admits that a job
0:03:32 > 0:03:37like this, where your words hold gravity and your actions have
0:03:37 > 0:03:40consequences, it is simply not the job for him?
0:03:40 > 0:03:43And they may say to the right Honourable lady that she has a
0:03:43 > 0:03:48choice. She always has a choice in these matters. She can choose to
0:03:48 > 0:03:52blame, to heap blame onto the British Foreign Office that is
0:03:52 > 0:03:59trying to secure... Trying to secure the release of Nazanin
0:03:59 > 0:04:03Zaghari-Ratcliffe, and in so doing, she deflect blame, she deflect
0:04:03 > 0:04:07accountability from those who are truly responsible for holding that
0:04:07 > 0:04:09mother in jail, and that is the Iranian regime.
0:04:09 > 0:04:14Order!In this case, there are fears this could mean the extended
0:04:14 > 0:04:19incarceration of a British- Iranian woman, and he will know that the
0:04:19 > 0:04:25lives and the safety of British citizens across the globe depend on
0:04:25 > 0:04:30having a Foreign Secretary who does not bluster and who is not too
0:04:30 > 0:04:36careless or too lazy to consider his words. Will the Foreign Secretary
0:04:36 > 0:04:41now apologise? He cannot be trusted to do this job, and he should
0:04:41 > 0:04:47resign. I really think, Madame deputy
0:04:47 > 0:04:52Speaker, that I have made my position clear already on this. And
0:04:52 > 0:04:54indeed, the Iranians have made their position clear.
0:04:54 > 0:04:59May I say that his errors in choice of words, however unfortunate they
0:04:59 > 0:05:04may seem, are, to be fair, entirely secondary and maybe even tertiary to
0:05:04 > 0:05:09the crimes committed by the Iranian regime over nearly four decades of
0:05:09 > 0:05:15Khamenei site authoritarianism. But the Foreign Secretary take this
0:05:15 > 0:05:19opportunity to address the threat that Iran poses to UK interest in
0:05:19 > 0:05:22the region, and whether, after 40 years of instability and tyranny, we
0:05:22 > 0:05:28need a wider review of Iran policy? It is precisely because many of us
0:05:28 > 0:05:34have, for many months, been working to try to secure Nazanin's release
0:05:34 > 0:05:38that many of us are so upset by this mistake which has been made. I
0:05:38 > 0:05:45accept, perhaps inadvertently. We are aware of the effect of her
0:05:45 > 0:05:49detention on her and their family, and this is an occasion in this
0:05:49 > 0:05:54extent of dismay. This is not an attempt of politicisation. It is
0:05:54 > 0:05:59genuine upset. I hope the Foreign Secretary will now go to look at the
0:05:59 > 0:06:02website of the Iranian judicial authorities where his remarks are
0:06:02 > 0:06:09repeated for all to see.Could he now give us an undertaking that in
0:06:09 > 0:06:13future, he will concentrate on the very important matters that he has
0:06:13 > 0:06:18within his brief as Foreign Secretary? To that end, could he
0:06:18 > 0:06:23give an undertaking to support the Prime Minister in her efforts, as in
0:06:23 > 0:06:28relation to the Florence speech, for example, and make sure that his own
0:06:28 > 0:06:31ambitions upwards Eikenberry to the well-being of all my constituents,
0:06:31 > 0:06:36and indeed, to everyone else in this country? Because that is his job.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39It is not enough of the Foreign Secretary not in the basic details
0:06:39 > 0:06:44of this case. It is unforgivable to repeat the lies of the Iranian
0:06:44 > 0:06:50Revolutionary Guard, and to say that I should be clearer does not cut it
0:06:50 > 0:06:55when it is a matter of life and death.So if our words really do
0:06:55 > 0:06:59matter, then it is only right that we do not play party politics. I am
0:06:59 > 0:07:05looking at the shadow front bench, giggling a minute ago about the
0:07:05 > 0:07:09discomfort that the Foreign Secretary may be feeling. And I
0:07:09 > 0:07:14would ask the Foreign Secretary to redouble his efforts to get Nazanin
0:07:14 > 0:07:19released as soon as possible. I am very grateful to my honourable
0:07:19 > 0:07:25friend, who speaks with huge authority about that region. And I
0:07:25 > 0:07:33can certainly say that we are redoubling our efforts to secure the
0:07:33 > 0:07:35release of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, and I think it is
0:07:35 > 0:07:39entirely right that the focus of the house should not be on any failings
0:07:39 > 0:07:42and the responsibility of the UK Government for the incarceration of
0:07:42 > 0:07:49this mother. I really think that if she is going to continue to blame
0:07:49 > 0:07:52the British government for the incarceration of Nazanin
0:07:52 > 0:07:55Zaghari-Ratcliffe, she is living in cloud cuckoo land, Madame deputy 's
0:07:55 > 0:08:00bid. The world is upside down in the Labour Party, absolutely upside
0:08:00 > 0:08:05down. It is the Iranian authorities against whom she should be directing
0:08:05 > 0:08:11her attention and her anger. Boris Johnson. It is not the best of
0:08:11 > 0:08:14weeks for Theresa May. Another of her Cabinet ministers has also faced
0:08:14 > 0:08:19calls for her resignation. The International Development Secretary
0:08:19 > 0:08:23Priti Patel has apologised to the Prime Minister for holding a series
0:08:23 > 0:08:26of unofficial meetings while on a private holiday in Israel. One of
0:08:26 > 0:08:30those was with the is really Prime Minister. The Shadow International
0:08:30 > 0:08:35Development Secretary went down what is known as an urgent question in
0:08:35 > 0:08:41the Commons.Thank you, Mr Speaker. To ask the Secretary of State for
0:08:41 > 0:08:43International Development issue will make a statement on the
0:08:43 > 0:08:47circumstances surrounding her meetings in Israel in August 20 17.
0:08:47 > 0:08:54She's at a meeting! Mr Speaker, may I start by
0:08:54 > 0:08:57explaining that the Secretary of State is on a prearranged government
0:08:57 > 0:09:02visit to Africa to focus on how we are breaking down barriers...
0:09:02 > 0:09:06And she is presently in the air.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15She is a prearranged visit to Africa.The minister said Priti
0:09:15 > 0:09:18Patel had met a number of organisations in Israel.A list of
0:09:18 > 0:09:24who she met and what was covered was published in yesterday's statement.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26The Secretary of State realises in hindsight that these meetings were
0:09:26 > 0:09:31not arranged following the usual procedures, and she has apologised
0:09:31 > 0:09:37for that. The Foreign Office has said the UK interests were not
0:09:37 > 0:09:42damaged or affected by meetings on this visit, so I hope therefore that
0:09:42 > 0:09:46honourable members would now agree that she has made that apology, and
0:09:46 > 0:09:49published details of those meetings, we should accept that.
0:09:49 > 0:09:54The British public are outraged that the international developer and
0:09:54 > 0:09:57secretary held 12 secret meetings in Israel, including the Prime Minister
0:09:57 > 0:10:01Netanyahu, without telling either the Foreign Office or the Prime
0:10:01 > 0:10:03Minister, and was accompanied by a pro-Israeli lobbyist. She then
0:10:03 > 0:10:10misled the British public with comments on Friday that yesterday
0:10:10 > 0:10:15she finally corrected. It is hard to think of a more black and white case
0:10:15 > 0:10:22of breaking the ministerial code of conduct. But rather than change the
0:10:22 > 0:10:25minister, the Prime Minister somehow decided last night that it is the
0:10:25 > 0:10:29Ministerial Code itself that needs changing. We have a Prime Minister
0:10:29 > 0:10:34who has lost their authority and her control of the classroom. Does the
0:10:34 > 0:10:39minister except that it is time the Secretary of State either faces a
0:10:39 > 0:10:45Cabinet Office investigation or does the decent thing and just resigns?
0:10:45 > 0:10:48The minister list of the organisations Priti Patel had met in
0:10:48 > 0:10:54Israel.A visit to Save A Child's Heart to talk about a coincidence
0:10:54 > 0:11:00project. The Galilee International Management Institute. A group of
0:11:00 > 0:11:03start-ups with a focus on Africa. Does the honourable lady think she
0:11:03 > 0:11:11should not have met these people? All of these people are perfectly...
0:11:11 > 0:11:15This is... If I had been in Israel, and I had been on a two-day visit, I
0:11:15 > 0:11:20would have wanted a programme just like this.He has read out an
0:11:20 > 0:11:23incredibly long list of meetings that the Secretary of State held in
0:11:23 > 0:11:26Israel, on what I thought were supposed to be a family holiday.
0:11:26 > 0:11:31Did she have any meetings with the Palestinian side? He would, of
0:11:31 > 0:11:33course, appreciate the importance as Middle East minister of a whole
0:11:33 > 0:11:37balanced approach to the Middle East peace process and not a one-sided
0:11:37 > 0:11:42one. If she is in the air now, she could have delayed her departure,
0:11:42 > 0:11:46couldn't she, Ann Jones courtesy to this house? It is very difficult to
0:11:46 > 0:11:49know whether the Secretary for international developer or the
0:11:49 > 0:11:52Foreign Secretary is the one who has the worst relationship with
0:11:52 > 0:11:55accuracy, and if we had a Prime Minister who was not so weak, both
0:11:55 > 0:11:59of them would have been sacked. The spotlight is on this place, and
0:11:59 > 0:12:03the proceedings of this place, and the behaviour of all of us as never
0:12:03 > 0:12:09before. And what people want is transparency and accountability. So
0:12:09 > 0:12:14does my right honourable friend not agree with me that it is time
0:12:14 > 0:12:19finally to address the issue of access, privileged access, and
0:12:19 > 0:12:25lobbying, and funding, if we are not to have this repeated time and time
0:12:25 > 0:12:31again? And would he not agree with me that all organisations involved
0:12:31 > 0:12:37with active lobbying members of Parliament and ministers should open
0:12:37 > 0:12:41their books, be entirely transparent so we can see who is lobbying who,
0:12:41 > 0:12:46and he was providing the funding? Has guidance now been reissued to
0:12:46 > 0:12:49ministers and secretaries of state that they should not freelance on
0:12:49 > 0:12:52foreign policy when they are on their holidays, or indeed on policy
0:12:52 > 0:12:58in relation to any other government department? With or without Tory
0:12:58 > 0:13:01donors present? It seems to me to be a gross breach
0:13:01 > 0:13:05of the existing code of ministerial conduct, and every code of
0:13:05 > 0:13:08ministerial conduct I have ever seen as a minister of some nine years
0:13:08 > 0:13:11standing. In previous governments, I would have thought this was a
0:13:11 > 0:13:14resigning matter. What action is the Prime Minister
0:13:14 > 0:13:17taking to ensure this matter is investigated in terms of the
0:13:17 > 0:13:22Ministerial Code, and does he have faith that the Secretary of State
0:13:22 > 0:13:25still has the ability and credibility to carry on?
0:13:25 > 0:13:28When I met the is really Deputy Prime Minister, he stormed out of
0:13:28 > 0:13:33the meeting. The Secretary of State got a much more cordial reception.
0:13:33 > 0:13:36-- the is really Deputy Prime Minister. Is it just because she is
0:13:36 > 0:13:38a lady?
0:13:42 > 0:13:49I'm not sure, Mr Speaker, if it is appropriate for me to answer. Either
0:13:49 > 0:13:54how my right honourable friend was treated himself, or the reception
0:13:54 > 0:13:57for the Secretary of State for International Development. I'm sure
0:13:57 > 0:13:58both meetings were entirely proper and.
0:13:58 > 0:14:04Alistair Burt. The Commons Education Committee is
0:14:04 > 0:14:07investigating how to improve the foster care system for children. The
0:14:07 > 0:14:10committee has been hearing from young people who have been through
0:14:10 > 0:14:16the care system. For this unique session, they sat alongside MPs. The
0:14:16 > 0:14:20MPs instead sat at a table set aside for witnesses. Rachel revealed that
0:14:20 > 0:14:24she was separated from her siblings. I was moved away from them because I
0:14:24 > 0:14:30was overprotective with them, which in my eyes, as a sister, moving away
0:14:30 > 0:14:34from home, I feel like it is an instinct straightaway to just be
0:14:34 > 0:14:37protective, because you are moving in with a stranger you don't know.
0:14:37 > 0:14:42To lose a bond with your own siblings is sad, because you are by
0:14:42 > 0:14:45yourself in the world, and your siblings are practically best
0:14:45 > 0:14:49friends, and now you are losing them. You have lost your parents are
0:14:49 > 0:14:51now your siblings, and it is like your whole world has crashed down
0:14:51 > 0:14:58quite quickly.
0:14:58 > 0:15:06MR, which you like to ask something? It is quite upsetting you have gone
0:15:06 > 0:15:11through that. I just think you're also impressive and brilliant and I
0:15:11 > 0:15:19am so pleased you are here. I think you are fantastic. What you said
0:15:19 > 0:15:22about the resilience and strength you all have is just absolutely
0:15:22 > 0:15:27incredible. And I'm sure you will get your link back with your
0:15:27 > 0:15:33siblings.I see them now with a long process of fighting, writing letters
0:15:33 > 0:15:41and getting an advocate. I see them once a month.Luke had a difficult
0:15:41 > 0:15:55experience in foster care.My story is common. As a child, I was very
0:15:55 > 0:15:59angry about moving around a lot. Now I understand it is down to the
0:15:59 > 0:16:09capacity of the individuals in the information they had about me. Myra
0:16:09 > 0:16:21Ferrell was bad. It was about things I had done.Fundamentally, we need
0:16:21 > 0:16:28to be remind from the survey that 83% of children reported they
0:16:28 > 0:16:33thought that being in foster care improved their life. So overall, the
0:16:33 > 0:16:38picture is good. And certainly it is better. I met some care leavers last
0:16:38 > 0:16:42week who had been out of care for ten years. Some of the stories I
0:16:42 > 0:16:47heard about being moved at short notice, for example, one of them had
0:16:47 > 0:16:56been moved in the middle of his GCSE exams. He had a two hour commute to
0:16:56 > 0:17:07his school, sleek and complete his exams. 83% of children in the survey
0:17:07 > 0:17:14in foster care said their lives had been improved.Where did this survey
0:17:14 > 0:17:20come from?It was commissioned to get feedback. Many of those children
0:17:20 > 0:17:24have had a pretty rough time with their birth parents. So we have
0:17:24 > 0:17:31improved from where they were. But it shows that foster carers are
0:17:31 > 0:17:34doing a great job in the vast majority of cases in improving the
0:17:34 > 0:17:44lives of their children.In our sector, I think surveys are quite
0:17:44 > 0:17:48useless. The only engage with children who want to engage who have
0:17:48 > 0:17:58had good experiences.The Minister said some foster carers would not be
0:17:58 > 0:18:05happy calling themselves workers or employees.It is vital to keep it
0:18:05 > 0:18:11within the family environment. Any move towards employees there think
0:18:11 > 0:18:15would be bad. We are unable to recruit foster carers who consider
0:18:15 > 0:18:19themselves in this role. We don't see themselves of taking another
0:18:19 > 0:18:24drop.He added foster carers should not be left out of pocket. You are
0:18:24 > 0:18:27watching our round-up of the day in the House of Commons House of Lords.
0:18:27 > 0:18:35Still to come, does the intranet have too much power and influence
0:18:35 > 0:18:39over the nation's children? -- internet. An Anglican bishop has
0:18:39 > 0:18:43confessed to looking at pictures in sleazy magazines when he was a boy
0:18:43 > 0:18:50of 15. The Bishop of Chelmsford said the admission would not be good on
0:18:50 > 0:18:54his Facebook page. The admission came during the Lords debate on the
0:18:54 > 0:18:59internet and children.When I was about 15, I had a Saturday job in a
0:18:59 > 0:19:08wood yard. The men who worked there are often left there are sleazy
0:19:08 > 0:19:15magazines, mild by today's standards. When I was alone in the
0:19:15 > 0:19:19canteen, and if I thought nobody could see me, I looked at those
0:19:19 > 0:19:26magazines. I am not particularly proud to tell you that and I
0:19:26 > 0:19:33publicly repented within the House of Lords. I am a bishop, after role.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37It won't work very good on my Facebook page, admitting this to
0:19:37 > 0:19:42you. I was a normal 15-year-old boy and I expect most normal 15-year-old
0:19:42 > 0:19:46boys would have done the same thing. He said it should've been a huge
0:19:46 > 0:19:51moral concern that those sorts of images are much worse and available
0:19:51 > 0:19:56today in the pockets of every 15-year-old.The digital age can be
0:19:56 > 0:20:05an age of cultural and intellectual and even moral prosperity. But
0:20:05 > 0:20:11enlightened legislation based on sound and child-centred research is
0:20:11 > 0:20:18needed to lift it from the mire and misery that it is also creating.
0:20:18 > 0:20:23Bullying and name-calling online doesn't stop when you go home from
0:20:23 > 0:20:30school or even when you go to bed. You can be exposed to confusing and
0:20:30 > 0:20:34frightening images of pornography and violence, images that can stay
0:20:34 > 0:20:38in the mind for years. These pop up on social media or they may be
0:20:38 > 0:20:42pressed on you by others, or you may access them deliberately but regret
0:20:42 > 0:20:48doing so. A fifth of 12-15 -year-olds say they have encountered
0:20:48 > 0:20:55something online they found worrying or nasty.Teachers will tell you
0:20:55 > 0:20:58children come to school tired after having watched film, television or
0:20:58 > 0:21:05online material for hours, rather than being asleep. We need to teach
0:21:05 > 0:21:12children how to resist temptation and not allow the online world to
0:21:12 > 0:21:16control their existence. Not to be seduced by social networking and
0:21:16 > 0:21:19readily share personal information without first learning about privacy
0:21:19 > 0:21:24and trust.The debate over the internet. Last week, the government
0:21:24 > 0:21:30was told that it had to release detailed reports on the economic
0:21:30 > 0:21:34impact of Brexit. When the work release of the reports take place?
0:21:34 > 0:21:38Labour wants them handed over immediately. In the House of
0:21:38 > 0:21:42Commons, a Brexit minister said the government's analysis was constantly
0:21:42 > 0:21:46evolving and was being updated.It will take the government some time
0:21:46 > 0:21:51to collate and bring together this information in a way that is
0:21:51 > 0:21:56accessible and informative to the committee. We will provide this
0:21:56 > 0:22:00information to the committee as soon as is possible. We have made claim
0:22:00 > 0:22:04to the House authorities that we currently expect this to be no more
0:22:04 > 0:22:11than three weeks.If it is the case the department has some of the
0:22:11 > 0:22:17information but not all of it, can he tell the House what is preventing
0:22:17 > 0:22:21the information that is available from being released immediately?
0:22:21 > 0:22:27This farce has dragged on for too long. Ministers cannot use semantics
0:22:27 > 0:22:30and doublespeak to have a clear instruction this House has given
0:22:30 > 0:22:39them. There can be no further delay. Ministers need to get on with it.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42The honourable gentleman says that an impression has been allowed to
0:22:42 > 0:22:51develop. It was never our intention to allow this to develop. The
0:22:51 > 0:22:56situation is that the government, as I've explained, carries out a wide
0:22:56 > 0:23:00range of analysis across these sectors in order to inform our
0:23:00 > 0:23:04negotiating position. Our purpose is to develop our negotiating capital,
0:23:04 > 0:23:09not create the kind of stories which the honourable gentleman seems to be
0:23:09 > 0:23:12pursuing. I think the public will look at the Labour Party today, look
0:23:12 > 0:23:15at what they're asking for, they will look at the kind of narrative
0:23:15 > 0:23:21which members opposite are trying to create and they will ask whose side
0:23:21 > 0:23:30are they on?Can I thank my right honourable friend for his answer.
0:23:30 > 0:23:34The select committee has not discussed this matter. Can I tell
0:23:34 > 0:23:37them that what he is said to the House this afternoon seems to be
0:23:37 > 0:23:43entirely reasonable.It is astonishing that more than 500 days
0:23:43 > 0:23:51on from the referendum these are not prepared yet. It is astonishing. If
0:23:51 > 0:23:55they are scrabbling together this in three weeks' time, will beside us
0:23:55 > 0:23:59all. Will he tell us, will these be shared with the devolved
0:23:59 > 0:24:06administrations?Sure the public will on all agree that this timing
0:24:06 > 0:24:09is reasonable. Could I ask the Minister to make it very clear that
0:24:09 > 0:24:14whatever is in these documents that we will all be sitting up all night
0:24:14 > 0:24:21to read, it will make no change to the government policy and the policy
0:24:21 > 0:24:28of this country where leaving the European Union?The Minister
0:24:28 > 0:24:34confirmed in response to me in September the Department had the
0:24:34 > 0:24:39analysis. He has confirmed today he has seen the analysis. He has then
0:24:39 > 0:24:43said there is no quantitative work that casts its eye into the future.
0:24:43 > 0:24:48The question that is why has that work not been done by his Department
0:24:48 > 0:24:53on such a critical issue? He has not explained at.What the Minister has
0:24:53 > 0:24:57said it is reasonable. I urge him to release these documents in full as
0:24:57 > 0:25:02quickly as possible, redaction is only inflame interest. I have lived
0:25:02 > 0:25:06through many of these rows. Once these documents are published,
0:25:06 > 0:25:10they're often found to be very long and boring. When Parliament gets
0:25:10 > 0:25:15itself into a fine passion about the sort of thing, often travelling is
0:25:15 > 0:25:21more fun than arriving.That is it for this programme. MPs and peers
0:25:21 > 0:25:26take a brief half term break. Orthoses returned on Monday. From
0:25:26 > 0:25:34me, goodbye. -- both houses return on Monday.