0:00:18 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to the programme.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21Coming up,
0:00:21 > 0:00:23there's anger on the Conservative benches over the Government's
0:00:23 > 0:00:29Brexit fishing deal.
0:00:29 > 0:00:32That there is no way I can sell the still in a transitional period as
0:00:32 > 0:00:36anything like a success.Two basic amenities and Murray, Stalin or the
0:00:36 > 0:00:37UK.
0:00:38 > 0:00:39The Environment
0:00:39 > 0:00:42Secretary sympathises.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45I feel their disappointment.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47And, the BBC comes under fire for its treatment
0:00:48 > 0:00:49of some presenters.
0:00:49 > 0:00:55I feel like I've been hung out to dry. I feel betrayed and I asked
0:00:55 > 0:00:59this, where is their duty of care towards me.
0:00:59 > 0:01:00But first,
0:01:00 > 0:01:03For many MPs it felt like a slap in the face with a wet fish.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06The European Union will continue to set fishing quotas
0:01:06 > 0:01:07during the transition period following Brexit.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10That was what was decided on Monday in an agreement the Government
0:01:10 > 0:01:13hailed as a success, a step forward.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16But fisherfolk are furious that EU trawlers will still have access
0:01:16 > 0:01:21to UK waters until the end of that transition period in December 2020.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23A Liberal Democrat MP had an urgent question
0:01:23 > 0:01:28for the Environment Secretary.
0:01:28 > 0:01:36The mood in fishing communities is one of palpable anger. This is not
0:01:36 > 0:01:40what we were promised. And the basic question that the Secretary of State
0:01:40 > 0:01:45has to answer today is this, if they can't let us down like this over the
0:01:45 > 0:01:50deal for a transitional period, how do we know they will not do it again
0:01:50 > 0:01:54when it comes to the final deal? When it comes to it, well they trade
0:01:54 > 0:02:00away access or water for access to markets, or anything else?The first
0:02:00 > 0:02:03thing I will happily acknowledges that there is disappointment in the
0:02:03 > 0:02:07basic amenities. I know as somebody whose father was a fish merchant and
0:02:07 > 0:02:13whose grandparents went to sea to fish. I understand how fishing
0:02:13 > 0:02:17communities feel about the situation. I shared a
0:02:17 > 0:02:19disappointment.I'm sure the Secretary of State will understand
0:02:19 > 0:02:23that there is no way I can sell this still in the transitional period of
0:02:23 > 0:02:27them and think like a success to basic amenities and Murray, Scotland
0:02:27 > 0:02:32or the UK. But can the Secretary of State confirm that when we leave the
0:02:32 > 0:02:37policy in 2020, we will have full control over this and vessel access
0:02:37 > 0:02:41because the fishing communities that feel let down and angered at this
0:02:41 > 0:02:45government at the moment the debt guarantee?I understand my
0:02:45 > 0:02:51honourable friend's want and it will be the case across the Northeast of
0:02:51 > 0:02:54Scotland and the United Kingdom, people will be disappointed that the
0:02:54 > 0:02:58proposal that we sought to assure that would apply for it to the other
0:02:58 > 0:03:0219 to apply for that year. It is also important to recognise that
0:03:02 > 0:03:10this is a 12 month additional extension to the maintenance of the
0:03:10 > 0:03:14EU belt and we accept that in order to secure the greater prize which he
0:03:14 > 0:03:18is quite the right to remind the House. Only available if we ensure
0:03:18 > 0:03:23that we leave the common fisheries policy, take back control and make
0:03:23 > 0:03:26absolutely clear to other countries that access and causes will be in
0:03:26 > 0:03:27our hands.
0:03:27 > 0:03:28But several
0:03:28 > 0:03:29Conservatives weren't convinced
0:03:29 > 0:03:32that the Government wouldn't use that control to allow EU
0:03:32 > 0:03:33fishing in UK waters once
0:03:33 > 0:03:37the transition period was over.
0:03:37 > 0:03:44Bring forward, with companies are guaranteed can't you give the
0:03:44 > 0:03:50control of ICs will not be sacrificed in the Brexit?Does my
0:03:50 > 0:03:54friend agree that we owe a debt to our fishing communities? And that we
0:03:54 > 0:04:01must not guarantee to the EU any level of access in favour of a
0:04:01 > 0:04:05longer-term trade deal?Yes.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07But while many Conservative MPs were disappointed
0:04:07 > 0:04:08with the Government's deal, they still reserved some
0:04:09 > 0:04:13anger for the SNP.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16I share the disappointment of Northeast this submit and the
0:04:16 > 0:04:21transition to fall short with a hope for, so can the Secretary of State
0:04:21 > 0:04:26guarantee that on the 1st of January, 2021, we will leave the
0:04:26 > 0:04:29common fisheries policy, take back control over our waters comes at our
0:04:29 > 0:04:34own fishery management policies, and hard quotas, and look at including
0:04:34 > 0:04:38that in the history built in if he should be concerned that I have in
0:04:38 > 0:04:40the Scottish fishermen Federation have that the SNP Scottish
0:04:40 > 0:04:46Government will keep us in the policy and perpetuity and that would
0:04:46 > 0:04:48sell Scotland's measurements out!
0:04:48 > 0:04:49For their
0:04:49 > 0:04:53part, the SNP were up in arms.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56With concern is always somebody else's's file for the Conservatives.
0:04:56 > 0:05:04When we joined to the common fisheries policy, Scotland's
0:05:04 > 0:05:09measurements were described as expendable. So there were use to
0:05:09 > 0:05:13Scottish tourist sell-outs, given the matter of days out even
0:05:13 > 0:05:16Scotland's measurement will be surprised at how quickly that one
0:05:16 > 0:05:20was turned around. Will the Minister tell me at what point are fishermen
0:05:20 > 0:05:23became a bargaining chip or has that been the case all along and does he
0:05:23 > 0:05:29agree with me that there are now in the worst of all worlds that were in
0:05:29 > 0:05:33the common fisheries policy but no say, and Willie also tell me why
0:05:33 > 0:05:38over the years, the SNP has proposed changes to bring greater control
0:05:38 > 0:05:41over fishing policies, but they have been rejected and Jessica grew with
0:05:41 > 0:05:46me that that is because there's a big industry in Scotland imported to
0:05:46 > 0:05:53the Scottish Government that means nothing Westminster?-- nothing to
0:05:53 > 0:05:59us Mr. Mr Speaker, I production means we discussed somebody else are
0:05:59 > 0:06:03talking about yourself. It is interesting that the Scottish
0:06:03 > 0:06:07National Party spokesman to talk about always blaming somebody else.
0:06:07 > 0:06:11And always make somebody else's fault. For a party that has raised
0:06:11 > 0:06:19grievance to an art form, they have a damn chick making a case.Given
0:06:19 > 0:06:23the assurances I and others over the last year were given right friend
0:06:23 > 0:06:26the Prime Minister down that we would leave the common fisheries
0:06:26 > 0:06:32policy at the end of March 2019, who actually was negotiating debts and
0:06:32 > 0:06:36did they really care about fishing? The truth that the Tories are
0:06:36 > 0:06:40treating this industry as expendable. The Secretary of State
0:06:40 > 0:06:43talked about were viable.But industry cannot revive based on the
0:06:43 > 0:06:47status quo that the Government has delivered on the CFP. Does he
0:06:47 > 0:06:52understand what my constituents will see this as a total sell-out? Would
0:06:52 > 0:06:57not even a say at the table for the next two years.I'm slightly
0:06:57 > 0:07:01concerned by my routable friend's on in relation to the negotiations that
0:07:01 > 0:07:06the European Commission would not allow us something. Surely, it is a
0:07:06 > 0:07:09question of what importance we put on something as to whether we get
0:07:09 > 0:07:13it. Therefore I ask my right honourable friend what did we get in
0:07:13 > 0:07:18return?The bid price that we have secured is an implementation period
0:07:18 > 0:07:21that allows us to prepare for the benefits. That's what the price that
0:07:21 > 0:07:22we got.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24But the Lib Dem who raised the question warned Michael Gove
0:07:24 > 0:07:27against taking fishermen for granted.
0:07:27 > 0:07:33It was reported that the Government Chief Whip today or yesterday told
0:07:33 > 0:07:36his backbenches that it is not like the fishermen are going to vote
0:07:36 > 0:07:44labour. If that is true, every phrase a certain attitude in the
0:07:44 > 0:07:48Secretary of State should not be complacent, he should not take it
0:07:48 > 0:07:52for granted in the future that they will be voting Tory either.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54The draft deal about the transition period is expected to be signed off
0:07:54 > 0:07:56at an EU summit later this week.
0:07:56 > 0:08:04And the Prime Minister will make a statement to MPs on Monday.
0:08:04 > 0:08:07People with advanced dementia are being evicted by some care
0:08:07 > 0:08:09providers in England, on the basis it's too costly
0:08:09 > 0:08:11too look after them, according to Labour.
0:08:11 > 0:08:17The accusation came at health questions.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20We have a care system where the hot hot process that is not sustainably
0:08:20 > 0:08:25funded, with the CQC says that one quarter of care facility in not say
0:08:25 > 0:08:29for now. -- where the audit office says. And when providers cherry pick
0:08:29 > 0:08:33an event people with advanced dementia on the grounds of cost. Can
0:08:33 > 0:08:38the care Minister tell us what she is doing to address these issues and
0:08:38 > 0:08:41the sharp decline in which there has been an public satisfaction with the
0:08:41 > 0:08:47social care system?Mr Speaker, we know that this sector is under
0:08:47 > 0:08:51pressure because of the ageing population but the Government has
0:08:51 > 0:08:54given councils accessed 291 £4 billion more dedicated funding over
0:08:54 > 0:08:56the three years.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59A Conservative thought the answer might be working together.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03Given that the arithmetic of this place is so tight, it's clear that
0:09:03 > 0:09:07they'll need be some form of consensus for Crossbar party for
0:09:07 > 0:09:11reform. Given that the opposition appeared to favour a wealth tax, and
0:09:11 > 0:09:16are on-site have mooted the idea of individuals pay more for their own
0:09:16 > 0:09:20care,, surely cross party consensus is within reach. Can I ask the
0:09:20 > 0:09:27Secretary of State his view on cross party consensus?I think it is very
0:09:27 > 0:09:30important in your sixth Earth Offaly on this matter but it is important
0:09:30 > 0:09:35to the social care issues are something that are going to
0:09:35 > 0:09:38continue. -- he always speaks truthfully on this matter. Unless we
0:09:38 > 0:09:41find a solution of both parties will have to deal with this. In truth,
0:09:41 > 0:09:46both parties have made things worse by politicking in the past whether
0:09:46 > 0:09:53it was discussion about a death tax and 2009, or a dementia tax in 2017.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55A Labour MP thought the problem was simple.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57Not much sign of a cross-party consensus yet then.
0:09:57 > 0:10:02The problem is simply this, not enough money, or quality stuff and
0:10:02 > 0:10:07not in a place of. The Government should be ashamed of itself.It's
0:10:07 > 0:10:10Fardy CBSN of itself are living as with the financial crisis ten years
0:10:10 > 0:10:14ago. That's right it is his party that should be a shame to miss out.
0:10:14 > 0:10:18It has created pressure and health and social care system. Let me say
0:10:18 > 0:10:22to him that yes, in 2010, there were some cuts in the social care system
0:10:22 > 0:10:26but does have changed out and over this Parliament, the budget is going
0:10:26 > 0:10:32up by nine points of additional resources, which is an increase in
0:10:32 > 0:10:35real terms.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37Not much sign of consensus yet.
0:10:37 > 0:10:42You're watching Tuesday in Parliament with me, Mandy Baker.
0:10:42 > 0:10:46The BBC has come under fire from some of its senior broadcasters.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49They believe they were forced into employment arrangements that
0:10:49 > 0:10:52could leave them facing huge and unexpected tax bills.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56The Culture committee is investigating a decision to make
0:10:56 > 0:11:00some presenters use personal service companies or PSCs.
0:11:00 > 0:11:03Before the hearing, the MPs released a dossier showing how some of those
0:11:03 > 0:11:07pursued for unpaid taxes suffered mental health problems and in some
0:11:07 > 0:11:10cases considered suicide.
0:11:10 > 0:11:12The BBC has established a process which means the Corporation
0:11:12 > 0:11:18could pay a share of bills.
0:11:18 > 0:11:24This is an incredibly serious issue and I think we've all been concerned
0:11:24 > 0:11:27to read about the personal predicament people have been placed
0:11:27 > 0:11:31in and the effect that has had on themselves on their families.This
0:11:31 > 0:11:34isn't the sort a well played presenters. Training to companies to
0:11:34 > 0:11:39attack. This is the story of the BBC forcing Asher evidence has shown
0:11:39 > 0:11:43hundreds of present is to form companies and treat them as
0:11:43 > 0:11:47freelancers because that gave the BBC Plex ability. The effect of that
0:11:47 > 0:11:50meant the BBC plate last insurance contributions. Except that was not
0:11:50 > 0:11:56its purpose and we accept that but it did have that effect. And save
0:11:56 > 0:12:02millions of pounds a year. The BBC have avoided other implement cost.
0:12:02 > 0:12:06Sickness payments, Secretary pay, pensions... So on. It could get rid
0:12:06 > 0:12:11of any of us on a whim. No employment rights and assets. The
0:12:11 > 0:12:15price was paid by presenters who were exposed to the risk that when
0:12:15 > 0:12:17David HMRC will come to them and decide it would not freelancers but
0:12:17 > 0:12:21were employed in claim that tax including employers national
0:12:21 > 0:12:23insurance. That risk has become real.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25The BBC ended the use of PSCs because the law changed last year.
0:12:29 > 0:12:34It's done in such a candid way that many people have been faced to the
0:12:34 > 0:12:38financial. Double taxation, no pay, direct of the work and that has led
0:12:38 > 0:12:44to that dossier of despair shall I call it, which was presented to you
0:12:44 > 0:12:49and it is sad to us that it took the publication of that to arouse the
0:12:49 > 0:12:54BBC to what say we said last night. -- to say what he said last night.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56Mr Lewis said he'd refused to set up a company.
0:12:56 > 0:12:58But others had.
0:12:58 > 0:13:02The BBCpoint of view was nobody was forced and the evidence is that you
0:13:02 > 0:13:06didn't do it, it didn't work. That was being forced in my view and
0:13:06 > 0:13:10people suddenly felt they had no choice to agree to that.
0:13:10 > 0:13:13The MPs then heard from presenters who felt they had been
0:13:13 > 0:13:16compelled to set up a PSC.
0:13:16 > 0:13:21I think it is a tragedy that this mismanagement will lead to millions
0:13:21 > 0:13:27of pounds possibly being taken to the coffers, to rapidly compensate
0:13:27 > 0:13:33people who been taken into account its game or gone to hell, to the
0:13:33 > 0:13:38point of nearly taken her own life. Or have been blotted with the tax
0:13:38 > 0:13:45bills. It is not something I want to be a poster girl. Let's take the
0:13:45 > 0:13:49money off of the licence plate. I resent that. None of this is of our
0:13:49 > 0:13:49making.
0:13:49 > 0:13:54Another said all her worst fears had come true.
0:13:54 > 0:14:00Not long after I went freelance my stepdaughter died suddenly, I was
0:14:00 > 0:14:04unable to pay per remit leave and I went back into the show before her
0:14:04 > 0:14:09funeral because I had to get money. -- unable to take bereavement leave.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13Two years after that, how was diagnosed with cancer. I had
0:14:13 > 0:14:19surgery, radiotherapy, chemotherapy, I work the whole way through. I
0:14:19 > 0:14:25entered into this whole arrangement in good faith. I trusted the BBC and
0:14:25 > 0:14:31was proud to be part of the BBC. And I feel like I've been hung out to
0:14:31 > 0:14:35dry. I feel betrayed and I asked this, where is the duty of care
0:14:35 > 0:14:40towards me?The people in this situation and our people, not pounds
0:14:40 > 0:14:47of beans, which people seem to regard the mass, they are stacked to
0:14:47 > 0:14:51the local committee and stars, not being betrayed in some sections of
0:14:51 > 0:14:55the media. They trust the BBC because it is the BBC. They trusted
0:14:55 > 0:14:59to look after them in the BBC has done anything but that. On the eve
0:14:59 > 0:15:04of this meeting, where the BBC decided to take some sort of
0:15:04 > 0:15:07modifying action, and come out with very nice words, I'm sorry but nice
0:15:07 > 0:15:11words do not heal broken minds. They did not heal broken people and that
0:15:11 > 0:15:17is with the BBC is dealt with and they must face up to it.
0:15:17 > 0:15:18The government's drawing up plans to make boardrooms more accountable
0:15:18 > 0:15:19when firms go under.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23Ministers say the proposals will give regulators stronger powers
0:15:23 > 0:15:28to tackle those who make irresponsible decisions.
0:15:28 > 0:15:37We are determined to learn the lessons from things like really. We
0:15:37 > 0:15:40think we can do more teaching than the Government's framework
0:15:40 > 0:15:41insolvency situations.
0:15:41 > 0:15:44He told MPs the consultation would focus on three areas.
0:15:44 > 0:15:47Firstly, the selling on of businesses that were near -
0:15:47 > 0:15:48or in - insolvency.
0:15:48 > 0:15:50Secondly...
0:15:50 > 0:15:56The Government will consult on measures to get insolvency
0:15:56 > 0:15:58practitioners the additional necessary powers to claw back for
0:15:58 > 0:16:03the benefit of creditors money which has been siphoned off through
0:16:03 > 0:16:08complex financing arrangements. Thirdly, Mr Speaker, concerns have
0:16:08 > 0:16:11also been raised, including by a number of honourable members, about
0:16:11 > 0:16:14the difficulties raised when a company has been dissolved but is
0:16:14 > 0:16:19then found to have outstanding debts or allegations of directive
0:16:19 > 0:16:24misconduct. Often these dissolved companies will reappear, phoenix
0:16:24 > 0:16:27like in a slightly different form in a slightly different name and start
0:16:27 > 0:16:32operating again. At present is, insolvency services to not have the
0:16:32 > 0:16:36powers necessary to investigate these cases. We are determined that
0:16:36 > 0:16:36they will.
0:16:36 > 0:16:37But Labour argued many of these
0:16:37 > 0:16:40powers already existed
0:16:40 > 0:16:43and it wasn't clear what these proposals added - what was on offer
0:16:43 > 0:16:46was meaningless platitudes.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51The Government is certainly not known for being proactive rather
0:16:51 > 0:16:56always mopping up after the event. The minute these problems are new.
0:16:56 > 0:17:01Companies going insolvent and leaving pension deficits or assets
0:17:01 > 0:17:04strip are not novel. Look at the case of a DHS. These are problems
0:17:04 > 0:17:09the Government should have already anticipated. I ask the Minister why
0:17:09 > 0:17:12hasn't taken the Government till now to begin to act and only make
0:17:12 > 0:17:18tentative steps?The House can be reassured that this is just the next
0:17:18 > 0:17:24step in a robust, detailed, fulsome review of our corporate government
0:17:24 > 0:17:32regime.These proposals are a range of options available to accompany
0:17:32 > 0:17:34becoming insolvent. The proactive approach can prevent this happening
0:17:34 > 0:17:38in the first place. Would he agree that one way to ensure this would be
0:17:38 > 0:17:44for organisations to take profit warnings seriously and not continue
0:17:44 > 0:17:49to hand out contracts to firms who issue them?Can ask the Minister
0:17:49 > 0:17:53which currently can do and will in future be able do with respect to
0:17:53 > 0:18:00companies like Toys "R" Us where we had a management team led by a man
0:18:00 > 0:18:05who over a long period of time were able to loop the company with debt
0:18:05 > 0:18:12using complex is written tax havens and leaving behind the legacy of 580
0:18:12 > 0:18:17million pension fund and 3000 redundancies? What can he do?In
0:18:17 > 0:18:21relation to Toys "R" Us, of course he recognises, as I said previously,
0:18:21 > 0:18:27that that some businesses will always fail, but this government is
0:18:27 > 0:18:32very clear that these sets of measures, in particular the putting
0:18:32 > 0:18:36the emphasis on the responsibilities, not just of
0:18:36 > 0:18:39directors, but also of shareholders, and I think this is a very important
0:18:39 > 0:18:43point, the sharp holders, institutional shareholders, have a
0:18:43 > 0:18:46voice in the way these are run.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48Andrew Griffiths.
0:18:48 > 0:18:50A Conservative MP has called for the introduction of new measures
0:18:50 > 0:18:53to make sure residents of high rise homes are given information
0:18:53 > 0:18:55about fire safety, following the horrific blaze
0:18:55 > 0:19:01at Grenfell Tower in London.
0:19:01 > 0:19:03Maria Miller said one of her constituents who lived
0:19:03 > 0:19:06in a privately-owned building wasn't able even to see the fire
0:19:06 > 0:19:08risk assessments.
0:19:08 > 0:19:13Eventually, when I secured a copy of the fire risk assessments and sent
0:19:13 > 0:19:18to my constituent, he was very concerned. He was concerned to find
0:19:18 > 0:19:24out that a number of fire risks had been raised within the report,
0:19:24 > 0:19:28including serious faults on defence control panel which the report
0:19:28 > 0:19:32identified as a hazard for escape routes and evacuations.
0:19:32 > 0:19:33Maria Miller said residents
0:19:33 > 0:19:34had a right to know
0:19:34 > 0:19:37what the fire risks were.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41My bill would make sure that the responsible person holds it a
0:19:41 > 0:19:45residence meeting to go to the fire risk assessment and review and
0:19:45 > 0:19:48report on the measures being taken to address any risks identified.
0:19:48 > 0:19:50She said that after the Grenfell Tower fire
0:19:50 > 0:19:54there was an urgent need to improve fire safety.
0:19:54 > 0:19:59Everyone who lives in a high-rise building has the right to know if
0:19:59 > 0:20:02there are fire issues that have been identified, how they are being
0:20:02 > 0:20:06tackled and most important of all, what they should do in the event of
0:20:06 > 0:20:14a fire. At the moment, there is no transparency. Patchy at this,
0:20:14 > 0:20:15residents deserve better.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17The bill cleared its first parliamentary hurdle,
0:20:17 > 0:20:19but without Government support,
0:20:19 > 0:20:21it's unlikely to become law.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23There were calls from across the Commons for the restoration
0:20:23 > 0:20:26of power sharing at Stormont.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29MPs were debating a bill to give civil servants in Northern Ireland
0:20:29 > 0:20:32the legal authority to carry out day-to-day spending in the absence
0:20:32 > 0:20:34of a devolved government.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37Power sharing collapsed 14 months ago.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40The Northern Ireland Secretary said the bill represented the minimum
0:20:40 > 0:20:42intervention to ensure public services could function and it
0:20:42 > 0:20:47contained no new money.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50I take these measures with the greatest reluctance. I have deferred
0:20:50 > 0:20:55action here until it was clear it would not be possible for executive
0:20:55 > 0:20:59to take this legislation forward. As we approach the end of the financial
0:20:59 > 0:21:03year, it is important we proceed now to give certainty as the Northern
0:21:03 > 0:21:06Ireland civil service was to continue to protect and preserve the
0:21:06 > 0:21:15public services.All of these places, Northern Northern Ireland's
0:21:15 > 0:21:19servants are in a position. They're taking responsibly for providing
0:21:19 > 0:21:24services, making now increasingly autonomous decisions about services
0:21:24 > 0:21:27without really having a political master to serve for a political
0:21:27 > 0:21:32backstop to watch their back if there is a crisis in any of the
0:21:32 > 0:21:35services they're providing.Of course we want devolution and of
0:21:35 > 0:21:38course average mice to continue to make sure there is devolution in
0:21:38 > 0:21:43Northern Ireland, but in the meantime, there are communities and
0:21:43 > 0:21:46people suffering from a lack of decision-making and as he has
0:21:46 > 0:21:50rightly said, in the meantime, we must ensure that decisions are made
0:21:50 > 0:21:51for the good of everyone.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54The DUP's Nigel Dodds.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57The Government's been defeated in the Lords as peers insisted
0:21:57 > 0:22:04the UK should not withdraw from the European nuclear
0:22:04 > 0:22:06agreement, Euratom, until a replacement deal
0:22:06 > 0:22:07was in place.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09The Euratom arrangement covers issues such as the transport
0:22:09 > 0:22:10of radioactive materials, including those used
0:22:10 > 0:22:14in medical treatments, or in nuclear power stations.
0:22:14 > 0:22:18The government was defeated by 265 votes to 194,
0:22:18 > 0:22:22a majority of 71 votes on the Nuclear Safeguards Bill.
0:22:22 > 0:22:26Earlier the topic exercising their lordships was rubbish - literally.
0:22:26 > 0:22:27One Conservative former minister thought it would be a good idea
0:22:27 > 0:22:29to add litter-picking to the National Curriculum.
0:22:29 > 0:22:37And he wasn't mincing his words.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41The shocking and disgusting proliferation of litter in our towns
0:22:41 > 0:22:46and countryside frankly seems this nation. Whilst my proposal might
0:22:46 > 0:22:50need some opposition and some people would understandably be very
0:22:50 > 0:22:54concerned about safety and some teachers might not like it very
0:22:54 > 0:22:56much, if it where enacted that all children spent a couple hours
0:22:56 > 0:23:01clearing litter, I believe it might have a gradual effect on attitudes
0:23:01 > 0:23:07are not only that, but it might, in the long term, have a positive
0:23:07 > 0:23:12educational impact. Would my noble friend please go back and look, in a
0:23:12 > 0:23:15very serious matter, at this proposal or something similar and
0:23:15 > 0:23:19take radical action, so we no longer need to be shaved at the state of
0:23:19 > 0:23:25our highways? Tonight at the shape of our highways?I agree with my
0:23:25 > 0:23:29noble friend with the scourge of litter which is why the Government
0:23:29 > 0:23:33washed it with your strategy last year. It sets out our aim to clean
0:23:33 > 0:23:36up the country and to deliver a substantial reduction within a
0:23:36 > 0:23:46generation.I'm wary of criticising the noble blood work -- the noble
0:23:46 > 0:23:52lord given his service. I'm sure there are not a few children who are
0:23:52 > 0:24:02quite relieved their are left in the country. I wonder if the noble lord
0:24:02 > 0:24:08is aware that it is extreme and balanced your six curricula and to
0:24:08 > 0:24:13not include data that is not a problem?Given the high rate of
0:24:13 > 0:24:17illiteracy and many of our primary schools and the low rate of humour
0:24:17 > 0:24:21and see him as 11 euros, which really affects the subsequent
0:24:21 > 0:24:25education, does the noble would not agree with me it would be far better
0:24:25 > 0:24:28to concentrate on the essentials of a good education and not expose our
0:24:28 > 0:24:32children to unnecessary danger doing foolish things which are naturally
0:24:32 > 0:24:39part the curriculum?In two weeks' time, today, it will become a
0:24:39 > 0:24:46penalty of £80 on the owner of any vehicle from which litter is thrown.
0:24:46 > 0:24:52This is a big advance because previously they could ever be
0:24:52 > 0:24:55prosecuted. We have now, the Government has now made it a civil
0:24:55 > 0:25:04penalty. Will he equally except that the penalty for flights if they
0:25:04 > 0:25:08aren't completely inadequate and the enforcement against fly-tipping is
0:25:08 > 0:25:15also inadequate?I think it comes back to my earlier statement that it
0:25:15 > 0:25:21is about public responsibility and duty. I am delighted that the fines
0:25:21 > 0:25:24for littering from cars have been increased and also be aware that
0:25:24 > 0:25:31from January of this year, we banned the use of microbeads in cosmetic
0:25:31 > 0:25:35substances, so the whole thrust is to improve the protection of our
0:25:35 > 0:25:38environment and I applauded the most recent action you referred to.
0:25:38 > 0:25:39Lord
0:25:39 > 0:25:40Agnew.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42And that's all we've got time for.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44So from me, Mandy Baker, goodbye.