02/11/2015

:00:07. > :00:11.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

:00:12. > :00:13.Abandoned and left to fend for themselves - four siblings who

:00:14. > :00:16.had to raise themselves after their parents died have been awarded

:00:17. > :00:25.We meet one of the children who - 30 years on - says it's

:00:26. > :00:31.Plus, what caused a Russian holiday jet to crash over

:00:32. > :00:42.And, do dating apps have a responsibility to promote better

:00:43. > :00:46.We'll hear from him and meet people who say they're

:00:47. > :00:55.Do you ever think I am spending too much time on these? All the time.

:00:56. > :00:59.Don't care. Going up to London for a day and you

:01:00. > :01:04.want to meet up in the evening with someone you can, you can go on the

:01:05. > :01:09.app and it's easy. It's just quicker. That's kind of why I have

:01:10. > :01:19.started getting on to Tinder and it's the pace of it, it's instant.

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:01:36. > :01:42.Plus, we'll speak to those who've spent time with Shaker Aamer since

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:02:06. > :02:07.First, a family of four orphaned children

:02:08. > :02:14.have been awarded ?75,000 in compensation after being effectively

:02:15. > :02:16.abandoned by their local authority and left to bring themselves up.

:02:17. > :02:18.Parents James and Elileen Hawkins died in 1983

:02:19. > :02:23.Their children, aged between 8 and 16,

:02:24. > :02:33.In an exclusive first broadcast interview Tony Hawkins -

:02:34. > :02:36.who was eight at the time - says it's a miracle he survived -

:02:37. > :02:41.as he had to scavenge for food often eating old dog

:02:42. > :02:44.biscuits or a slice of bread with vinegar and sugar smeared on it.

:02:45. > :02:46.Liverpool City Council have admitted they didn't provide proper care

:02:47. > :03:00.Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Tell us, first of

:03:01. > :03:03.all, what happened to your parents. My parents were, one evening, my

:03:04. > :03:08.father came home, he had been the out for a drink with friends. My dad

:03:09. > :03:13.was into the home brew kind of hobby. He came home with a bottle

:03:14. > :03:18.which he said a friend had give him, said it was vodka, just needed

:03:19. > :03:23.watered down and they could drink it as vodka. So he and my mum and a

:03:24. > :03:29.friend did that and they had a drink because it was coming up to their

:03:30. > :03:36.anniversary and they drank this vodka. The friend had less than

:03:37. > :03:46.them, I think left shortly afterwards, and it turned out to be

:03:47. > :03:56.an alcohol that can be used as an engine cleaner, that killed them in

:03:57. > :04:01.a painful and ex-cruciating way. It left you and your brother and sister

:04:02. > :04:08.alone. What did the social services? From my recollection there was

:04:09. > :04:13.limited intervention. We went on a couple of trips in the first few

:04:14. > :04:18.months which weren't very pleasant experiences. Did they decide that

:04:19. > :04:23.someone should look after you or your 16-year-old brother should?

:04:24. > :04:28.From what we know now, just from speaking to James and from what we

:04:29. > :04:32.knew, James was called to a meeting with the council at 16, he was a

:04:33. > :04:37.young 16-year-old boy grieving over his parents and he was asked do you

:04:38. > :04:42.want to look after the children and he obviously said, well, yeah. That

:04:43. > :04:48.was it. Evident left to do that. There was -- he was left to do that.

:04:49. > :04:55.There was no court case, there was no procedures followed. And that was

:04:56. > :04:59.it. We were left there on our own. We will never know the truth because

:05:00. > :05:08.we don't know, there was no records to say what happened. Right. Give

:05:09. > :05:12.the audience an insight into what daily life was like as an

:05:13. > :05:15.eight-year-old, with your 16-year-old brother apparently

:05:16. > :05:20.looking after you. It went from being a normal family, siblings

:05:21. > :05:25.arguing and fighting, a warm family environment food on the table, all

:05:26. > :05:32.sitting around having our tea in the evening, to overnight just becoming

:05:33. > :05:38.chaotic. James quickly with that responsibility, the pressure for him

:05:39. > :05:54.became too much. His life went quickly downhill. Clare had learning

:05:55. > :05:58.disabilities so she struggled. For Stephen and I we were straightaway

:05:59. > :06:00.put in a position where we had to fend for ourselves, we quickly

:06:01. > :06:04.realised it was down to us. We were only kids and we would have

:06:05. > :06:11.conversations like, can you feel that pain in your stomach? I was

:06:12. > :06:18.like, yeah, it was hunger. What were you eating? There was nothing. The

:06:19. > :06:22.dog biscuits was, that's all there was in the kitchen so I would nibble

:06:23. > :06:26.on dog biscuits, if there was bread I would put something like vinegar

:06:27. > :06:31.or anything else you would normally find in the cupboard and repeatedly

:06:32. > :06:38.walk into the kitchen and open cupboards knowing there was nothing

:06:39. > :06:44.there to eat, so there was nothing. James, his life was falling away.

:06:45. > :06:50.Minimal benefits he was on, we still don't know, if we did get a chance

:06:51. > :06:54.to get money off James we would buy noodles or something we knew would

:06:55. > :06:59.last for a few days. Did you go to school? We missed a lot of school.

:07:00. > :07:02.You can imagine there is no boundaries, no adult figure to get

:07:03. > :07:08.you up in the morning or push you to go to school, so we were kind of

:07:09. > :07:13.your own boss really. Just left to get yourself up, to get yourself

:07:14. > :07:17.dressed, fed, and get to school on time which quickly, if you were

:07:18. > :07:22.hungry, or we were really hungry, we would just stay in bed because it

:07:23. > :07:25.was easier to stay asleep and pull the blankets over your head and try

:07:26. > :07:30.to get by until you would get something to eat and enable to you

:07:31. > :07:32.go to school. Is it true you and your nine-year-old brother used to

:07:33. > :07:36.share a uniform, he would go for a couple of days and he would give the

:07:37. > :07:41.uniform to you and you would go for a couple of days? That went on

:07:42. > :07:47.Father a while, especially in the early -- for a while, especially in

:07:48. > :07:53.the early aftermath of our parents' death, we struggled with all normal

:07:54. > :07:58.clothes. We would share a lot, basic socks and underwear. Uniform was a

:07:59. > :08:03.problem. So, yeah, it was very, very difficult. We had to kind of just

:08:04. > :08:07.get by with each other. Me and Stephen became, we had to be a unit.

:08:08. > :08:14.It's extraordinary on so many levels. It's almost unbelievable.

:08:15. > :08:17.Where were relatives, where were teachers saying who is looking after

:08:18. > :08:22.you, what's happening, why haven't you been to school? This is only the

:08:23. > :08:27.80s, it's not the 50s. Paternal side of the family, my dad's side weren't

:08:28. > :08:32.close to my father anyway. I think there was a lot of family problems

:08:33. > :08:40.on his side, his relationship with his siblings. So they never played a

:08:41. > :08:44.part. His mother was, must have been in her 80s, she was very old. She

:08:45. > :08:51.lived a distance away, couldn't travel and had illness, she died

:08:52. > :09:00.within that year of my father dying. My maternal side, there was a lot of

:09:01. > :09:05.family issues relating to them, either lived too far away or had

:09:06. > :09:13.their own real issues that weren't in a position to look after us. But

:09:14. > :09:17.the responsibility was put on James. I would say in the first few weeks

:09:18. > :09:26.would people could rally around or try and help then we realised it was

:09:27. > :09:30.just about us and the help kind of disappeared or just became less, I

:09:31. > :09:34.think we became very good at not feeling like a - not wanting people

:09:35. > :09:39.to think we were victims or beggars, we put up a front like we had to

:09:40. > :09:44.think - we had to stay proud and make people think we were still OK.

:09:45. > :09:49.I can't look back and say and blame certain people and say why didn't

:09:50. > :09:52.you help? Because we were kind of became very hard to say we are OK,

:09:53. > :09:57.because we were in fear of being taken away you see. Right. That was

:09:58. > :10:01.the bory -- that was the worry, if you said we need some help here, you

:10:02. > :10:08.thought you might be split up? Absolutely. Speaking to James that

:10:09. > :10:15.was the responsibility put on his head, which for me is just

:10:16. > :10:18.diabolical. He was such a young kid and wasn't outgoing strong-minded

:10:19. > :10:24.kid, he stayed in his room playing records, he would go to school and

:10:25. > :10:28.he was very bright lad. Ultimately, within 24 hours he said now you are

:10:29. > :10:32.a father of your siblings. Now you have to look after the finances, you

:10:33. > :10:37.have to look after the house, the bills. He should never have been put

:10:38. > :10:44.in that position. Yeah, it was very difficult for James. As an adult,

:10:45. > :10:48.you did all fend for yourselves and you have gone on to achieve, you got

:10:49. > :10:53.a scholarship at a good school and so on. But as an adult then you

:10:54. > :11:00.start asking questions and looking back. Yes. I think for all four of

:11:01. > :11:04.us we didn't look back, it was too hard to look back. We always tried

:11:05. > :11:10.to, eggs Stephen and I, look forward. That was that -- especially

:11:11. > :11:16.Stephen and I, look forward. It actually came about when I met, now

:11:17. > :11:19.my wife, I met her in 94 and she was a Great Britain athlete and she was

:11:20. > :11:24.travelling the world but always wanted to go into social work. She

:11:25. > :11:27.qualified as a social worker but she would always ask questions, that

:11:28. > :11:34.wasn't right, I am sure that wasn't right. When she got educated in this

:11:35. > :11:38.field and had a knowledge she started asking the questions to me.

:11:39. > :11:43.And pushing me. It all started with the headstone. We went to visit the

:11:44. > :11:47.grave. It was just a very deteriorated wooden cross. She said,

:11:48. > :11:51.that's unacceptable. She pursued the council to see if there was anything

:11:52. > :11:57.they could do now to pay for the headstone for us. For your parents.

:11:58. > :12:03.We have no record of you was the response. She thought, hang on, this

:12:04. > :12:07.is not right. She applied under the Data Protection Act for all our

:12:08. > :12:10.files and I believe they had a statutory period where they had to

:12:11. > :12:15.respond in which they didn't respond within that period. She repeatedly

:12:16. > :12:18.requested these files and about three months later got one letter

:12:19. > :12:23.through the door saying we have no record, you didn't belong to this

:12:24. > :12:27.authority, you belong to a different authority, we knew quite well we

:12:28. > :12:33.belonged to that authority. Tried to push us in another direction. We

:12:34. > :12:36.showed evidence that we lived in that property and they came back and

:12:37. > :12:40.said we have again looked at the files, yes, you did belong to this

:12:41. > :12:46.authority but we still have no record of you at all. So that was

:12:47. > :12:49.the driver then, this was a case of, hang on, yeah, we now understand

:12:50. > :12:53.what happened to us was wrong. We are looking back in the past and

:12:54. > :13:00.remembering what happened and now we don't exist. That was for me was the

:13:01. > :13:03.most hurtful thing, that was insult upon insult. It was my wife that was

:13:04. > :13:10.the driving force behind the whole thing. The council have awarded you

:13:11. > :13:24.and your siblings ?75,000 compensation. It tells you what?

:13:25. > :13:28.That tells me, it's a token gesture that they've accepted some failings,

:13:29. > :13:31.they've accepted something but we don't know what. I just believe it's

:13:32. > :13:36.in the hope that this will be brushed under the carpet and go away

:13:37. > :13:43.and that's how I see that. But you want what? I want answers. I can't

:13:44. > :13:46.go through life now knowing what happened to us and just being

:13:47. > :13:50.regarded as the kids that never existed. What happened to them

:13:51. > :13:54.records? Somebody somewhere has answers. There's people who are

:13:55. > :13:56.probably still alive now who were involved in the organisation or the

:13:57. > :13:59.authority and worked for the authority that know something. I

:14:00. > :14:03.appeal to them people to say come forward, give us some closure and

:14:04. > :14:08.let us have some answers. Also how do we know any lessons have been

:14:09. > :14:12.learned? How do we know this is not happening now or will happen to

:14:13. > :14:16.other children in that position? Without them answers or an inquiry

:14:17. > :14:21.or some Serious Case Review them questions will never be answered. We

:14:22. > :14:30.have a statement from Liverpool City Council. The city council has

:14:31. > :14:33.publicly acknowledged that it let these young people down over 30

:14:34. > :14:36.years ago. Since that time there haven't have been many changes in

:14:37. > :14:40.social work practice and safeguards in place to prevent this happening

:14:41. > :14:44.now. Would you like an atoing? It would be a starting -- apology. It

:14:45. > :14:50.would be a starting point. For me it's too late. We started pursuing

:14:51. > :14:54.these files years ago, since then they've ignored us, and never even

:14:55. > :14:57.after the award, they've never directly approached us with an

:14:58. > :15:02.apology to say we failed, we don't know why. But we hope it never

:15:03. > :15:08.happens again. There's been nothing. An apology now would be too late. A

:15:09. > :15:13.couple of comments from people watching this morning. ?75,000 is

:15:14. > :15:17.rubbish compensation for that family of four children who were abandoned

:15:18. > :15:21.by the local authority when their parents died. And Peter e-mailed to

:15:22. > :15:24.say a disgrace that the council think such a small amount of money

:15:25. > :15:28.is compensation. After this admission once again no names of

:15:29. > :15:32.those in social services are published or questioned or even

:15:33. > :15:38.prosecuted for negligence. But for you I think it's just you want to

:15:39. > :15:41.find out why it happened. I know, I am convinced there is people still

:15:42. > :15:48.around now who were involved with the case, who know about the case,

:15:49. > :15:51.who have answers and why they're sitting quiet disturbs me. I would

:15:52. > :15:56.like them to come forward and talk to us, just explain their side of

:15:57. > :16:01.the story or if they were involved in any way and say this is what

:16:02. > :16:05.happened. But at the moment we have absolutely no idea. We have had no

:16:06. > :16:13.answers at all. Thank you very much.

:16:14. > :16:18.It is being reported by the press Association that a 5 -year-old girl

:16:19. > :16:23.has been injured when a car crashed into a tree, killing the driver. She

:16:24. > :16:26.could have been in the vehicle for some time before she was

:16:27. > :16:31.discovered, apparently, according to the ambulance service. Emergency

:16:32. > :16:35.crews found the girl in the back of the car after two cyclists saw it in

:16:36. > :16:42.a ditch in Staffordshire yesterday morning in foggy conditions. The man

:16:43. > :16:44.driving the car was dead at the scene but a spokesman for West

:16:45. > :16:48.Midlands Ambulance Service said, on arrival crews found the car in a

:16:49. > :16:52.ditch, it had suffered considerable damage and appeared to have been

:16:53. > :16:55.there for some time. It was very foggy at the time and it was

:16:56. > :16:59.immediately obvious the man driving had passed away. The girl has been

:17:00. > :17:03.taken to Royal Stoke University hospital after complaining of paint

:17:04. > :17:10.in her back and abdomen. A spokesman said this was extremely difficult

:17:11. > :17:13.for all involved, including the two cyclists who made the discovery. It

:17:14. > :17:17.is not clear how long the five-year-old girl had been in the

:17:18. > :17:18.cart before the ambulance crew arrived, but they say at least for

:17:19. > :17:23.some time before she was discovered. Shaker Aamer's home from Guantanamo

:17:24. > :17:27.but how is he coping with being We'll be talking to two people

:17:28. > :17:32.who've seen him since his return. With hundreds of ways

:17:33. > :17:36.of meeting people online are we We'll talk to

:17:37. > :17:50.a leading sexual health consultant who thinks apps should do more to

:17:51. > :17:52.promote safe sex. The bodies of more than

:17:53. > :17:59.140 people killed in a plane crash in Egypt have been

:18:00. > :18:02.flown home to St Petersburg. The Metrojet Airbus crashed

:18:03. > :18:05.on Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula 23 minutes after taking off

:18:06. > :18:07.from the Egyptian Red Sea resort Russian officials say the plane

:18:08. > :18:16.broke up at high altitude. Thick fog is causing widespread

:18:17. > :18:19.travel disruption across the UK Passengers have been left stranded

:18:20. > :18:22.with many flights cancelled or Foggy conditions are expected to

:18:23. > :18:25.continue throughout the morning. The Met Office has issued

:18:26. > :18:28.a severe weather warning Turkey's President, Tayyip Erdogan,

:18:29. > :18:34.has hailed the strong performance of his ruling

:18:35. > :18:36.Justice and Development party The party, also known as AKP,

:18:37. > :18:47.got back its parliamentary majority that it lost in June with

:18:48. > :18:49.a stronger-than-expected performance Israeli troops have shot

:18:50. > :18:58.and killed a Palestinian who tried The army says the incident happened

:18:59. > :19:02.near a checkpoint between the It's the third attempted stabbing

:19:03. > :19:10.near the checkpoint in recent weeks. Police

:19:11. > :19:14.investigating a series of sex assaults in Clapham and Brixton in

:19:15. > :19:17.South London last month are linking The latest incident happened

:19:18. > :19:20.on Saturday. The woman called for help

:19:21. > :19:22.and her attacker fled. Two men have been arrested

:19:23. > :19:33.and bailed during the inquiry. A family of four orphaned children

:19:34. > :19:36.have been awarded around ?75,000 in compensation after being effectively

:19:37. > :19:41.abandoned by their local authority and left to bring themselves up. In

:19:42. > :19:45.an exclusive first broadcast interview, Tony Hawkins, who was

:19:46. > :19:50.eight at the time, has asked for an apology. Parents James and Eileen

:19:51. > :19:54.Hawkins died in 1983 from accidental poisoning.

:19:55. > :19:59.It went from being just a normal family, siblings are and fighting, a

:20:00. > :20:03.warm family environment, food on the table, sitting around having our tea

:20:04. > :20:09.every evening, too, overnight, becoming chaotic.

:20:10. > :20:12.Friends and family will join over 1000 officers for the funeral

:20:13. > :20:15.He was killed when he was knocked down while

:20:16. > :20:20.Let's catch up with all the sport now.

:20:21. > :20:28.Here's Tim. Plenty of sport, as ever. We will

:20:29. > :20:36.see how England's cricketers are getting on against Pakistan, a solid

:20:37. > :20:43.start today, they are one - the Rodin. We have some rugby league for

:20:44. > :20:45.you, England doing better than their union counterparts. Lewis Hamilton

:20:46. > :20:48.might be world champion but could not win in Mexico last night, his

:20:49. > :20:52.Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg was the winner and we have got the news

:20:53. > :20:57.of a new manager at Aston Villa. And, what is happening to Jose

:20:58. > :21:07.Mourinho? We will show you the test match specialteam's take on his

:21:08. > :21:13.latest post match interview, or lack of one. That is coming up at 10am.

:21:14. > :21:16.Next, we're going to talk about the proliferation of dating apps.

:21:17. > :21:18.There are hundreds of them, from Tinder, which in the space

:21:19. > :21:21.of a few years now has around 50 million active users worldwide,

:21:22. > :21:24.to Grindr for gay or bisexual men, to specialist apps for people who

:21:25. > :21:29.Apps are now the fourth most common way of meeting a partner in the UK.

:21:30. > :21:31.But a leading sexual health consultant

:21:32. > :21:34.is calling for dating apps to do more to promote safe sex messages.

:21:35. > :21:36.Peter Greenhouse claims such sites are fuelling a rise

:21:37. > :21:39.The latest figures from Public Health England show

:21:40. > :21:47.a 33% increase in cases of syphilis, with gonorrhoea up 19%.

:21:48. > :21:53.You should be able to turn over partners a lot quicker with a dating

:21:54. > :21:58.app. The problem is, the quicker you change partners, the quicker you

:21:59. > :22:02.will get into action. But also, if you are very keen to change partners

:22:03. > :22:06.quickly, having a dating app doesn't just tell you that someone is

:22:07. > :22:10.available, it tells you exactly where they are two within the

:22:11. > :22:14.nearest few metres, don't you could even be in a bar, put in your

:22:15. > :22:17.details into the app, swipe this way or that way and find there is

:22:18. > :22:26.somebody on the other side of the bar who is up for it, so that must

:22:27. > :22:28.increase the rate at which you change partners or find new

:22:29. > :22:30.partners, and that in itself has got to increase the risk of sexually

:22:31. > :22:31.transmitted infections. That was Peter Greenhouse

:22:32. > :22:33.from the British Association With the growth of dating apps

:22:34. > :22:36.seemingly showing no sign of abating, Radio One Newsbeat's

:22:37. > :22:39.Rick Kelsey has been asking, His report,

:22:40. > :22:42.which lasts around 14 minutes, James uses dating apps like Grindr,

:22:43. > :22:50.Growlr and Scruff Do you ever think,

:22:51. > :23:00."I'm spending too much time on 'Love' is probably a bit strong, it

:23:01. > :23:11.is more of a love-hate relationship. I like to see who is going on

:23:12. > :23:15.and what is going on around me but at the same time sometimes it

:23:16. > :23:24.gets very repetitive. I mean, once you've seen it,

:23:25. > :23:27.you've seen them all, kind of thing. James might use apps more than most

:23:28. > :23:30.but the numbers who are swiping, tapping

:23:31. > :23:32.and messaging their way to add date And whether you are looking

:23:33. > :23:37.for love, going out with friends or something more casual, dating apps

:23:38. > :23:39.are a part of everyday life. I think with Happn it's really good

:23:40. > :23:42.because you get to meet people in the same area as you and you are

:23:43. > :23:46.more likely to meet someone who has Everyone just wants to have sex

:23:47. > :23:52.on it! I'm not saying you're

:23:53. > :24:03.desperate but... Now it is basically the best way to

:24:04. > :24:07.meet people, it's sort of got rid But is it just

:24:08. > :24:18.about an easy way to hook up or find someone to have a drink with, or are

:24:19. > :24:20.we addicted to dating? I wish everyone could just fall

:24:21. > :24:23.in love and be happy We might spend three hours waiting

:24:24. > :24:28.for responses or trying to make something happen before realising

:24:29. > :24:29.at the end of those three hours you feel really

:24:30. > :24:33.anxious and uncomfortable. But first, this is Andy, he goes on

:24:34. > :24:39.three or four app dates a week and the fact you're not quite sure what

:24:40. > :24:46.this person is going to be like. I kind of quite like that nervous

:24:47. > :24:49.energy you get before the date. What is it about apps that you

:24:50. > :24:52.like comfort to meeting girls It's just quicker,

:24:53. > :24:56.that's kind of why I started getting I would back myself

:24:57. > :25:08.in three or four hours to certainly You said you liked her

:25:09. > :25:12.and she said she liked you so, Yes,

:25:13. > :25:15.I think we can send her a message. Keep it short and sweet, that

:25:16. > :25:40.seems to work better for myself. One line I use is, "Let's skip the

:25:41. > :25:43.small talk and just go for a drink, I've got some good responses

:25:44. > :25:46.from that one. We'll find out how Andy gets

:25:47. > :25:49.on later. She went to

:25:50. > :25:51.the toilet to freshen up. I saw a rat run across the kitchen,

:25:52. > :25:54.and I killed it. I said, look, I killed a rat

:25:55. > :25:57.for you, I'm a big man. I killed a rat

:25:58. > :26:02.and it happens to be her pet. I once went on a date to the

:26:03. > :26:04.Natural History Museum. And a small child ran into the

:26:05. > :26:07.glass of one of the exhibitions. The guy I was on a date with didn't

:26:08. > :26:12.find it very funny and was very unimpressed that I was

:26:13. > :26:15.laughing and had to leave the room! For James, they are not

:26:16. > :26:18.necessarily about a relationship. I prefer the chase to

:26:19. > :26:20.the actual end product. Where I live is very far out

:26:21. > :26:26.from the country, it takes an hour How often, of all the apps,

:26:27. > :26:32.do you actually take it through to Erm... I've never gotten laid from

:26:33. > :26:43.them. You are on these six,

:26:44. > :26:47.seven hours a day? Because I do sometimes,

:26:48. > :27:11.when I do actually get a decent conversation out of someone, when

:27:12. > :27:30.it's more than just, like, how big is

:27:31. > :27:34.your...? How much can you take? It's kind of like, come on guys,

:27:35. > :27:38.can you get a bit more imaginative? Catch my attention,

:27:39. > :27:40.I'm done with the whole... I should take the hint

:27:41. > :27:45.because there's a massive hint here, a light flashing going,

:27:46. > :27:47.why are you using this? You're obviously not enjoying it

:27:48. > :27:50.but I am at the same time. Do you think there's point

:27:51. > :27:52.when you might say, actually, I'm app dating too much, even though

:27:53. > :27:57.I'm not actually going on dates. So a lot of people use dating apps

:27:58. > :28:04.for meeting new people, going on dates ought to have sex but

:28:05. > :28:08.I've come to meet someone today who uses them not to have a relationship

:28:09. > :28:11.but because of the lifestyle that When Clover goes on dates,

:28:12. > :28:14.she gets given gifts or money. I've had more positive experiences

:28:15. > :28:17.with the opposite sex on that side than I have with people who I went

:28:18. > :28:20.to school with or whatever. I've had enough of guys my age

:28:21. > :28:24.and guys who didn't really have anything to give me, emotionally or

:28:25. > :28:26.physically or materialistically. So I figured I'll give it a go and I

:28:27. > :28:30.actually met some pretty decent guys Lingerie, clothes, jewellery, bags,

:28:31. > :28:37.perfume, stuff like that, I can see you've got a wall

:28:38. > :28:41.of shoes. She uses

:28:42. > :28:42.an app called SeekingArrangement that many women use to meet guys who

:28:43. > :28:47.give them cash or presents. Clover keeps most of what she gets

:28:48. > :28:50.in the bedroom of her parents' What was it about the setup of an

:28:51. > :28:54.app like that that interests you? You know, I think most dating sites,

:28:55. > :28:58.anybody can go on it. They are somewhere

:28:59. > :29:06.in life where they have got what they want materialistically

:29:07. > :29:10.and they just want to have fun now. So talk to me

:29:11. > :29:13.about the benefits of it being on an Because it is with

:29:14. > :29:17.you wherever you go. Say you're going up to London

:29:18. > :29:20.for a day, for a trip or something and you want to meet up in

:29:21. > :29:23.the evening with someone, you can. You can just go on the app

:29:24. > :29:26.and it easy. Because of what you are getting,

:29:27. > :29:28.is there an expectation of sex? But they are usually quite forward

:29:29. > :29:31.with that, You know, because if that's what

:29:32. > :29:35.they want, that's what they want. If that's not what I want,

:29:36. > :29:38.that's not what I'm going to do Yeah, but if they're attractive

:29:39. > :29:44.and whatever If you go on the internet, you can

:29:45. > :29:52.see what people really think about it, they think it's prostitution or

:29:53. > :29:54.something but it really isn't at all because you don't have to do

:29:55. > :29:58.anything you don't want to do. I wish everyone could just fall

:29:59. > :30:01.in love and be happy They always come up with some stupid

:30:02. > :30:13.chat up line, like, hey there, So I would rather just someone would

:30:14. > :30:18.be like, hey, how are you doing? My friend invited me round to his

:30:19. > :30:25.house one weekend to meet a girl She came over,

:30:26. > :30:29.she was a really nice girl so I thought I would open Tinder

:30:30. > :30:32.and see who I could hook up with. So I swiped right for bants

:30:33. > :30:39.and it was a match! So since we last met, I managed to

:30:40. > :30:43.sort myself out with a date tonight, I've just got back from work,

:30:44. > :30:46.popped in the shower, a bit of aftershave on, just walking

:30:47. > :30:50.down to the pub to meet her now. Confident at the same time

:30:51. > :30:59.so fingers crossed it goes well. Hopefully she turns up -

:31:00. > :31:01.you never know, do you! I mean obviously hoping to get

:31:02. > :31:05.on well with her. Maybe a cheeky kiss at the end

:31:06. > :31:08.of the night would be good, I'm not going to set

:31:09. > :31:15.the bar too high. Just take it from there, really,

:31:16. > :31:20.yeah. Andy is waiting for his date to show

:31:21. > :31:24.up - it's a familiar routine and he While Andy is happy to share his

:31:25. > :31:29.dating matches and stories, some Maryam is looking for a husband

:31:30. > :31:37.and uses an app called MusMatch. At the end of the day, there's no

:31:38. > :31:41.point in going on other apps because, you know, obviously I have

:31:42. > :31:46.to marry a Muslim guy and I don't You're still worried about your

:31:47. > :31:56.family finding out you're on an app? My sisters know because they're

:31:57. > :32:06.quite laid back and quite modern, but if my dad realised I was on it,

:32:07. > :32:10.he would be, like, "What the hell?!" I couldn't point blank sit down

:32:11. > :32:17.and say, "Dad, I met my... I don't know, 'the one',

:32:18. > :32:19.on a dating app." I would have to make

:32:20. > :32:21.a story up like, yeah, I met him through a friend of a

:32:22. > :32:25.friend, you know, like, old school. Why do you think it is that Muslim

:32:26. > :32:28.parents are more afraid, if you like, of their daughters or sons

:32:29. > :32:31.being on an app than other people? I think it's society,

:32:32. > :32:34.what are people going to think? And I think, Islamically as well,

:32:35. > :32:37.if you luck at religion, it says you shouldn't really be interacting

:32:38. > :32:42.with a male person because that's when adultery comes in

:32:43. > :32:44.and one thing leads after another. Maryam,

:32:45. > :32:50.do you think that a lot of your I don't know, for some reason it's,

:32:51. > :32:58.like, embarrassing. I'm like literally like, it's not

:32:59. > :33:06.like you're on Tinder or anything. But I've heard a lot about Tinder,

:33:07. > :33:10.that it's going to just pick up girls and it's just, like,

:33:11. > :33:12.you know... It's not used for

:33:13. > :33:14.like the right reasons. I wouldn't put myself on that,

:33:15. > :33:20.obviously not. But MusMatch kind

:33:21. > :33:22.of attracted me because I thought it is a Muslim website,

:33:23. > :33:30.you will get Muslim guys on there. Muslim people with good values,

:33:31. > :33:32.people that are serious But then again,

:33:33. > :33:36.you don't know their intentions. So I met this girl for a date

:33:37. > :33:38.in Plymouth, A really nice Range Rover came

:33:39. > :33:50.shooting by and I said, So I met this girl through an app

:33:51. > :33:58.in New York. And everything was going fine,

:33:59. > :34:00.super, she was amazing. We got chased by a really crazy man

:34:01. > :34:03.and the night ended there So this place might look

:34:04. > :34:20.like a typical Soho barber's but it's actually where people who

:34:21. > :34:22.think they have a problem with The clinic helps hundreds

:34:23. > :34:29.of people each year. We try to make it look

:34:30. > :34:32.as little like a traditional NHS Apps play a crucial role

:34:33. > :34:37.in the lives of young men in 2015. And sometimes they

:34:38. > :34:38.become compulsive. You get sexual affirmations that

:34:39. > :34:41.feel-good when you click this. Some people find themselves

:34:42. > :34:43.fascinated by waiting for So what type

:34:44. > :34:48.of problems have you seen people come into Dean Street and say,

:34:49. > :34:58.listen, I need help with this? They realise they are not enjoying

:34:59. > :35:02.their sex lives, it causes anxiety, or they might spend three hours

:35:03. > :35:05.waiting for responses or trying to make something happen and realising

:35:06. > :35:08.at the end of those three hours they are feeling really anxious and

:35:09. > :35:10.uncomfortable and that's not using We want to support them to make this

:35:11. > :35:21.a functional tool, not a compulsive Back at the pub and the good news

:35:22. > :35:26.is that Andy's date has turned up. He will come in

:35:27. > :35:30.and he's always early, he comes in and he says to me, all right, this

:35:31. > :35:33.is the girl I'm seeing tonight. Then she'll arrive and he'll buy her

:35:34. > :35:37.a drink and I'll give him a bit of a Wink, she's all right,

:35:38. > :35:41.or she's not so good. And then about 20 minutes later,

:35:42. > :35:46.come for a second drink and I'll say, OK, give me a feel, how's it

:35:47. > :35:48.going? So throughout

:35:49. > :35:50.the night I will walk around and if he is successful or not, just

:35:51. > :35:54.before he leaves, he'll give me the thumbs up and the wink and the wave

:35:55. > :35:59.and I know it's on for the night. Very happy, really nice girl,

:36:00. > :36:03.got along well, definitely going to be a second date, I've already

:36:04. > :36:07.sorted it for next week. Yes, looking forward to

:36:08. > :36:09.seeing her again, sure. You two looked pretty

:36:10. > :36:11.content outside? Yeah, I mean,

:36:12. > :36:14.I did get my cheeky kiss! So again, another successful Tinder

:36:15. > :36:16.date for me. I think I'm going to stick

:36:17. > :36:18.at Tinder, Traditional dating is kind

:36:19. > :36:29.of a thing of the past. Do you think you will really

:36:30. > :36:32.find love on a dating app? Who knows, only time will tell, some

:36:33. > :36:37.of my friends have, fingers crossed! Later in the programme we'll be

:36:38. > :37:09.speaking to some people who use dating apps as well as others who

:37:10. > :37:12.have looked into the links between And if you want to watch or share

:37:13. > :37:40.the film you can find it A couple of comments coming in, that

:37:41. > :37:44.guy needs to drop that app. It removes the struggle of seeing who

:37:45. > :37:48.likes you. Another on Twitter, these dating apps are scary, I can imagine

:37:49. > :37:53.people getting into situations they're not comfortable with easily.

:37:54. > :37:57.Another on Twitter says seeing this makes me dmrad I am older than them

:37:58. > :38:04.and was single pre-app. Things seem to have to be instant now.

:38:05. > :38:09.Let's bring you more on that story we mentioned, a five-year-old girl

:38:10. > :38:12.may have been left for sometime in a crashed car alongside the dead

:38:13. > :38:17.driver. Our reporter is here. What else do you know at this stage?

:38:18. > :38:23.Well, emergency crews found the girl in the back of the car in a ditch in

:38:24. > :38:28.Staffordshire around 9. 30am on Sunday morning after being alerted

:38:29. > :38:35.by two cyclists. The man driving the car, the black Ford Fiesta had been

:38:36. > :38:39.there for sometime they believe. The West Midlands ambulance service had

:38:40. > :38:43.said that it was very foggy at the time those conditions very much like

:38:44. > :38:48.today, with the fog that was blanketing. The driver is believed

:38:49. > :38:52.to be 25 years old and a local man. We don't know his name yet and more

:38:53. > :38:58.importantly we don't know how he was related to the five-year-old, the

:38:59. > :39:03.passenger. Staffordshire Police have appealed for witnesses to the crash

:39:04. > :39:08.but at the moment they're trying to establish exactly what happened and

:39:09. > :39:10.what time this happened because as you say, the five-year-old girl was

:39:11. > :39:18.found sometime after this incident happened. Thank you very much.

:39:19. > :39:20.The bodies of more than 140 people who were killed when

:39:21. > :39:23.a Russian plane crashed in Egypt have been flown to St Petersburg.

:39:24. > :39:28.The Airbus A-321 broke up in mid-air before it came down

:39:29. > :39:31.in the Sinai Peninsula on Saturday, according to the head of

:39:32. > :39:40.An investigation into the cause is under way.

:39:41. > :39:46.In the last hour half at a news conference in Moscow, Metrojet

:39:47. > :39:49.airlines has said it was impossible for the plane to break up in the air

:39:50. > :39:52.because of a technical or pilot fault. They've also said the crew

:39:53. > :39:53.didn't make contact with the ground about problems with the plane during

:39:54. > :39:55.the flight. Julian Bray is an aviation analyst

:39:56. > :40:03.and joins us from Peterborough. He has been monitoring the press

:40:04. > :40:06.conference. What else has been said? Well, it's very interesting, isn't

:40:07. > :40:09.it? It started off as a very dull corporate press conference and it

:40:10. > :40:15.sounded to be a justification of what was happening. Then as you got

:40:16. > :40:20.into it, it suddenly became quite exciting in terms of media content

:40:21. > :40:25.because they said something went on out of our control, not normal

:40:26. > :40:30.break-up, there is an outside force. At this point Russian television who

:40:31. > :40:35.had been streaming the conference live suddenly went black and then

:40:36. > :40:39.the conference carried on, the tail apparently was repaired twice. Now

:40:40. > :40:44.that's not unusual, because these things do happen. They detect cracks

:40:45. > :40:49.or whatever so they replace the whole tail section. But it's been

:40:50. > :40:52.replaced twice. It is a leased aircraft, leased from an Irish

:40:53. > :40:59.leasing company. But technically they were giving the aircraft a

:41:00. > :41:02.clean bill of health. But they are suggesting there are dark forces out

:41:03. > :41:07.there and things have happened that are outside their control.

:41:08. > :41:13.Worryingly, they say there were no tick nickical reports or

:41:14. > :41:18.conversations with the aircraft -- technical, so this is cutting to a

:41:19. > :41:22.catastrophic event that cut systems, the smart money is on a device

:41:23. > :41:27.placed on board but that's pure speculation at the moment we will

:41:28. > :41:33.have to wait for the black boxes to be decoded. Right. You would take

:41:34. > :41:36.what they've said from that press conference, outside force being the

:41:37. > :41:42.key phrase, to lead you to believe that there was potentially a bomb on

:41:43. > :41:47.board? We can't rule anything out. Well, we can, we can rule out the

:41:48. > :41:57.fact that it wasn't a missile because you need a big missile to

:41:58. > :42:02.reach that plane and the insurgents locally have shoulder pads, shoulder

:42:03. > :42:05.mounted missiles up to about 14,000 feet, this was flying much higher.

:42:06. > :42:10.So we are confident that didn't happen. But everything else is still

:42:11. > :42:15.there for examination. But the key thing is we want a very factual

:42:16. > :42:20.report coming out of the examination of the black boxes because you have

:42:21. > :42:25.two, you have the voice black box and the data black box. The voice

:42:26. > :42:30.will give you two hours of material and the data will give you a good 24

:42:31. > :42:38.hours' worth. You will be able to piece together exactly what did

:42:39. > :42:42.happen to that aircraft. Right. How will it be able to piece together?

:42:43. > :42:51.If it was a bomb how will the voice black box and data black box help?

:42:52. > :42:57.Well, these units are designed to withstand extreme trauma, I will put

:42:58. > :43:04.it that way. You will find that there is a part on the right part of

:43:05. > :43:07.the unit in which are data discs and these are like discs that record

:43:08. > :43:11.everything. Like a stack of CDs, if you like. All the data is recorded

:43:12. > :43:14.in there in real-time while the aircraft is still operating.

:43:15. > :43:20.Obviously as soon as it crashes or it stops it just stops operating.

:43:21. > :43:27.Then people recover it, they're taken to a laboratory who have

:43:28. > :43:30.certain diagnostic tools and they will take the data and reconstruct

:43:31. > :43:34.exactly what happens, on the flight deck you will hear all the pilot

:43:35. > :43:37.conversations, co-pilot conversations, any communication

:43:38. > :43:42.with the ground, and it's all on a timeline. We will find out once and

:43:43. > :43:47.for all whether any conversations did take place. Also you will be

:43:48. > :43:52.able to gauge exactly what happened in the cabin areas and other

:43:53. > :43:56.operational areas because every time somebody presses a switch or opens a

:43:57. > :44:03.relay that will actually be recorded on the data stack. Understood. Thank

:44:04. > :44:06.you very much. Lots of you getting in touch about

:44:07. > :44:11.the interview at the beginning of the programme about a family of four

:44:12. > :44:15.orphaned siblings who have been awarded ?75,000 from their local

:44:16. > :44:20.authority, Liverpool, after they were effectively left to fend for

:44:21. > :44:26.themselves growing up almost 30 years ago. Someone on Twitter says

:44:27. > :44:30.heartbreaking but not unique. We should stop trusting corrupt social

:44:31. > :44:35.services. Thank goodness the kids triumphed. John tweets, I thought I

:44:36. > :44:38.had it hard, what an as stonishing story. Someone needs to answer for

:44:39. > :44:42.it. Another on Twitter says I don't

:44:43. > :44:49.think ?75,000 in compensation is nearly enough. Another says what a

:44:50. > :44:52.story, wow. Tim texts to say, the story is the most outrageous thing I

:44:53. > :44:58.have ever heard. Thank you. You know how to get in touch. You can e-mail

:44:59. > :45:02.or message me on Twitter. And on Facebook, as well. Time for the

:45:03. > :45:05.latest weather. Fog really is an issue for lots of

:45:06. > :45:13.people today. It is. A bad issue. At the weekend

:45:14. > :45:16.we saw problems with it too. It's probably atmospheric for Hallowe'en.

:45:17. > :45:18.But look at here at Heathrow and Manchester, we have delays with

:45:19. > :45:27.flights. It's mayhem on roads, as well. It

:45:28. > :45:33.really is dense. It's like thick pea soup as it's often known as.

:45:34. > :45:40.Low tufrp tures and the sun is weak -- temperatures.

:45:41. > :45:45.We had a breeze out there, we wouldn't see problems like this with

:45:46. > :45:50.almost zero visibility in some places. It has been bad. Yesterday,

:45:51. > :45:56.it was bad. But also we saw records being broken. Where it wasn't foggy

:45:57. > :45:59.it was sunny and very warm. The satellite picture behind me, this

:46:00. > :46:02.was yesterday's satellite. You can see where the fog was, showing up

:46:03. > :46:07.clearly here. If I run it through the course of the day it started to

:46:08. > :46:13.break up nicely, it lingered in places where we had very chilly

:46:14. > :46:18.conditions, but in western Wales, no wind and lots of sunshine and 22C

:46:19. > :46:28.and that actually is a November record for the time of year. If I

:46:29. > :46:34.click down, you can see here it was in Wales that saw this, breaking an

:46:35. > :46:43.old record in 1946 which was also set in North Wales. The average is

:46:44. > :46:47.12 so this is almost summer-like. It was a big contrast to 9C in the fog.

:46:48. > :46:52.How long will the fog stick around for? The next few days, but then we

:46:53. > :46:56.pick up more of a breeze. Things will improve. This is the travel

:46:57. > :46:57.board that I have now for the weather, further disruption likely

:46:58. > :47:05.to the airports. That fog isn't going anywhere fast.

:47:06. > :47:09.It is breaking up across parts of Wales and the sot west of England

:47:10. > :47:13.and parts of northern England and the northern half of Scotland doing

:47:14. > :47:17.well at the moment. That fog should get nibbled away from the edges

:47:18. > :47:23.through the course of the morning, into the afternoon, lingering on

:47:24. > :47:29.across central and eastern parts of York, down towards the south-east

:47:30. > :47:32.Midlands. Where it will remain chilly, temperatures just into

:47:33. > :47:37.dibble figures. Some sunshine across the south-east.

:47:38. > :47:41.-- double. We could make 20 again or even higher in one or two locations.

:47:42. > :47:46.We will have to keep tuned to the weather to see with the

:47:47. > :47:49.temperatures. Northern areas the fog will linger on through central and

:47:50. > :47:53.southern Scotland. Northern Scotland doing well into the afternoon. This

:47:54. > :47:57.evening and overnight that fog makes a return to many areas. You will

:47:58. > :48:03.notice more of a breeze picking up across the far south-west as low

:48:04. > :48:15.pressure begins here. It should be fog-free here: High pressure over

:48:16. > :48:21.the continent and barely any wind, it's been the main driving fact

:48:22. > :48:27.Forrest this fog. Heavy rain in Spain and Portugal will move north

:48:28. > :48:32.during the first part of Tuesday. Here quite wet through the day and

:48:33. > :48:35.breezy. Fog-free here. Showers getting to the south-east and the

:48:36. > :48:41.northern half of the country similar to how we have seen yesterday and

:48:42. > :48:47.today. Some fog, some sunshine and a mild day to come. That mild theme

:48:48. > :48:50.continues for the rest of this week. We start off dry with that fog

:48:51. > :48:54.problem but then the fog begins to move as it becomes unsettled and

:48:55. > :48:57.that's because we pick up areas of low pressure and it will turn

:48:58. > :49:08.windier and wetter to the latter part of the week.

:49:09. > :49:10.Hello, it's Monday, it's 10am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

:49:11. > :49:12.Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

:49:13. > :49:23.How can the adoption process be sped up? Councils will be challenged to

:49:24. > :49:27.double the places of new families. Since 2011 we have seen a 72%

:49:28. > :49:31.increase in the number of children adopted but in the last two years we

:49:32. > :49:34.have seen a fall away of about half the number of children now being put

:49:35. > :49:38.forward to be adopted and part of that is to do with court judgments

:49:39. > :49:42.which have been misinterpreted by councils and others, but also we

:49:43. > :49:47.need to try to bear down on the delay that is still taking place

:49:48. > :49:50.when trying to match children. We will speak to parents who have been

:49:51. > :49:53.through the process about the changes they would like to see,

:49:54. > :49:56.and, as always, get in touch with your experiences.

:49:57. > :49:59.Shaker Aamer's home from Guantanamo Bay - but how is he

:50:00. > :50:03.We'll be talking to two people who've met him since his return.

:50:04. > :50:08.He does look a lot more than 14 years older than those pictures and

:50:09. > :50:14.I am sure that is confluence of his detention. He does look older but

:50:15. > :50:19.what was really striking is that same smile that you see in the

:50:20. > :50:24.pictures is absolutely there, and the warmth of his personality

:50:25. > :50:26.absolutely beams through. The determination, I think that is

:50:27. > :50:31.exemplified by what he did on the flight on the way back.

:50:32. > :50:34.And with hundreds of ways of meeting people online, I'll we becoming

:50:35. > :50:37.addicted to dating apps? A leading sexual health

:50:38. > :50:39.consultant tells us they should The bodies

:50:40. > :50:50.of more than 140 people killed in a plane crash in Egypt have been

:50:51. > :50:53.flown home to St Petersburg. The Metrojet Airbus crashed

:50:54. > :50:57.on Saturday in the Sinai Peninsula after taking off

:50:58. > :51:05.from the Egyptian Red Sea resort At a press conference in Moscow this

:51:06. > :51:08.morning, the airline said it would have been impossible for the plane

:51:09. > :51:14.to break up in midair because of a technical or pilot pulled. -- pilot

:51:15. > :51:16.fault. Thick fog is causing widespread

:51:17. > :51:18.travel disruption across the UK Passengers have been left stranded

:51:19. > :51:23.with many flights cancelled or Foggy conditions are expected to

:51:24. > :51:27.continue throughout the morning. The Met Office has issued

:51:28. > :51:40.a weather warning In Turkey, the governing AK party

:51:41. > :51:42.has scored a convincing victory in yesterday's Parliamentary elections,

:51:43. > :51:45.winning back the majority it lost just five months ago.

:51:46. > :51:48.Our correspondent Mark Lowen is in Ankara.

:51:49. > :51:56.Was this a surprise? It was, no opinion poll had pointed

:51:57. > :52:00.to such a convincing victory for the AK party, but what they have managed

:52:01. > :52:04.to do is capitalise on fears of insecurity and violence in recent

:52:05. > :52:09.weeks after a ceasefire with PKK Kurdish rebels broke down in July,

:52:10. > :52:13.sparking a wave of violence which consumed south-eastern Turkey, and

:52:14. > :52:17.it is that, three separate bomb attacks blamed on is it said, which

:52:18. > :52:21.have contributed to the climate of fear and insecurity, which rallied

:52:22. > :52:24.supporters behind the AK party to bring it back to a majority

:52:25. > :52:29.Government, which it had lost in June. Among the opposition, though,

:52:30. > :52:34.there will not be any cause for celebration. They fear that an

:52:35. > :52:37.emboldened AK party Government will go even further towards

:52:38. > :52:44.authoritarianism which he has demonstrated in recent years, that

:52:45. > :52:48.clamp-downs on freedom of expression will continue and that Turkey will

:52:49. > :52:52.continue its isolation from its allies. Real fears and splits now at

:52:53. > :52:56.the heart of Turkish society, but, like all open, president and again

:52:57. > :53:03.is been manned the West have to do business with -- President Taylor

:53:04. > :53:07.Bird again. Turkey is a vital country in this region and that is

:53:08. > :53:12.why he knows he has the support of his people, he knows he has a strong

:53:13. > :53:15.position to go on and move Turkey forwards, but there will be

:53:16. > :53:22.turbulent times ahead after the election.

:53:23. > :53:26.A man orphaned at the age of eight has called for an apology from his

:53:27. > :53:33.local authority after being abandoned and left to bring himself

:53:34. > :53:38.up. Tony Hawkins and his three siblings have been awarded ?75,000

:53:39. > :53:42.in compensation after his parents died in 1983 from accidental

:53:43. > :53:45.poisoning. We started pursuing these files

:53:46. > :53:50.seven years ago and they have repeatedly fobbed us off, it

:53:51. > :53:55.borders, and even after the award they have never directly approached

:53:56. > :54:02.us with an apology to say, we failed, we don't know why, but we

:54:03. > :54:05.hope it never happens again. The Australian Prime Minister

:54:06. > :54:09.Malcolm Turnbull has abolished the awarding of Knights and Dames under

:54:10. > :54:14.the honour system in the country. It was reintroduced in 2014 by his

:54:15. > :54:17.predecessor, Tony Abbott. The controversial decision to grant

:54:18. > :54:20.Prince Phillip a knighthood in January was widely seen as one of

:54:21. > :54:22.the factors which ended his term as leader.

:54:23. > :54:25.Friends and family will join over 1000 officers for the funeral of

:54:26. > :54:29.He was killed after being knocked down by a pick-up truck while

:54:30. > :54:37.Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Tim again.

:54:38. > :54:50.Yes, the cricket this morning, including Test Match

:54:51. > :54:54.We'll bring you that in a minute, but first to events in Sharjah where

:54:55. > :54:57.it's day two of the third and final test between England and Pakistan.

:54:58. > :55:00.England are batting as they try to chase down Pakistan's

:55:01. > :55:04.And they suffered an early setback - Moeen Ali out after scoring just 14

:55:05. > :55:10.But Alastair Cook and Ian Bell looked to have settled in nicely.

:55:11. > :55:16.This six from Bell the highlight of the morning session.

:55:17. > :55:23.After lunch, though, the partnership was broken.

:55:24. > :55:25.Cook out just one run short of his 50.

:55:26. > :55:27.And it's got worse for England since then.

:55:28. > :55:30.Joe Root, so often the hero, out shortly afterwards for just four.

:55:31. > :55:43.There's a couple of stories to bring you from yesterday evening too,

:55:44. > :55:45.including a great win for England's rugby league team last night,

:55:46. > :55:50.as they beat the world's number one side New Zealand in Hull.

:55:51. > :55:52.Skipper Sean O'Loughlin's late try helped secure a 26-12

:55:53. > :55:55.victory in the first of three matches between the two sides.

:55:56. > :55:59.The second test is at London's Olympic stadium on Saturday.

:56:00. > :56:03.And Nico Rosberg won the Mexico Formula One Grand Prix,

:56:04. > :56:05.beating his Mercedes team mate and newly-crowned world champion

:56:06. > :56:09.It was Rosberg's fourth win of the season and lifts him up

:56:10. > :56:17.Aston Villa are expected to announce Remi Garde

:56:18. > :56:20.as their new manager today, having sacked Tim Sherwood last week.

:56:21. > :56:22.Garde played for Arsenal in the 1990s, and was part

:56:23. > :56:26.of Arsene Wenger's squad that won the league and cup double in 1998.

:56:27. > :56:29.More recently, he's been manager of French club Lyon, and has also

:56:30. > :56:37.Villa, who are bottom of the table, play Spurs

:56:38. > :56:42.And if the newspapers are to be believed, Chelsea may soon be

:56:43. > :56:46.With his team currently struggling, Jose Mourinho refused to speak to

:56:47. > :56:49.the press after last week's defeat to West Ham.

:56:50. > :56:51.He did turn up this week following another loss,

:56:52. > :57:12.and it's catching, if the Test Match Special team are anything to go by!

:57:13. > :57:19.Lets get the thoughts of Geoffrey Boycott. I have got nothing to say.

:57:20. > :57:23.First time ever, I have got nothing to say. England must be more

:57:24. > :57:29.attacking in their batting? Ours but nothing to say. Phil, good to see

:57:30. > :57:33.you, you look and fraud by the play. England in a decent position? I have

:57:34. > :57:37.got nothing to say. But when you look at the outfield and the pitch,

:57:38. > :57:45.will it last five days? Nothing to say. There you have it, the thoughts

:57:46. > :57:49.of Phil Tufnell, Michael Vaughan and Geoffrey Boycott, who had nothing to

:57:50. > :57:53.say. Which is rare, the Geoffrey

:57:54. > :57:57.Boycott! They did a very good impression of Jose Mourinho, who

:57:58. > :57:59.really needs to grow up, doesn't he?

:58:00. > :58:03.He is not a happy boy at the moment, he has never been put under

:58:04. > :58:07.this kind of pressure in his whole career, he was at Porto, Inter

:58:08. > :58:10.Milan, Real Madrid, winning things, even when they were not playing well

:58:11. > :58:15.they were towards the top of the table, but Chelsea have lost so many

:58:16. > :58:19.games this season, and as defending champions, so it has been a shock.

:58:20. > :58:23.He has blamed the referees and everyone else, it has been frosty,

:58:24. > :58:27.that is how the BBC website describes the interview, a frosty

:58:28. > :58:30.interview, and he walked out halfway through, which is why you saw

:58:31. > :58:35.Michael Vaughan take a walk as well! He is not happy, and he is in

:58:36. > :58:39.all of the newspapers, the back pages covering potential replacement

:58:40. > :58:42.for him. We are still not sure whether he will be staying or going

:58:43. > :58:46.from Chelsea. Fabio Capello one of the papers

:58:47. > :58:52.suggesting is keen to take over. Thank you for joining

:58:53. > :58:54.us this commentary morning. Welcome to the programme if you've

:58:55. > :59:02.just joined us - we're on BBC Two Lots of you getting in touch about

:59:03. > :59:06.our film on dating apps. Lydia says, you are being very critical on

:59:07. > :59:10.dating apps. I don't think we are being that critical. She said two

:59:11. > :59:20.off her friends were married using dating apps. Another viewer says she

:59:21. > :59:24.met her partner on a dating app, you 60 and she is 54 so it is not just

:59:25. > :59:28.for young people. Another getting married to someone she met on a

:59:29. > :59:28.dating apps next year. Congratulations.

:59:29. > :59:30.Do get in touch on the usual ways. Texts will be charged

:59:31. > :59:33.at the standard network rate. And of course you can watch

:59:34. > :59:35.the programme online wherever you are via the BBC news app or

:59:36. > :59:38.our website, bbc.co.uk/victoria, and you can also subscribe to all

:59:39. > :59:41.our features on the news app, by going to 'add topics' and

:59:42. > :59:43.searching 'Victoria Derbyshire'. How can

:59:44. > :59:45.the adoption process be speeded up? David Cameron's due to

:59:46. > :59:47.announce new measures today. As well as cutting red tape,

:59:48. > :59:49.English councils will be challenged to double the number

:59:50. > :59:52.of children placed with new families The average wait for children

:59:53. > :00:02.before they move in with their new family is 17 months, which the

:00:03. > :00:04.Government says isn't fast Edward Timpson is the

:00:05. > :00:16.Children's Minister. We have seen a 72% increase of the

:00:17. > :00:19.children adopted but in the last few years we have seen a 4 way of the

:00:20. > :00:26.numbers of children being put forward to be adopted, partly

:00:27. > :00:28.because of court judgments being misinterpreted by councils, but we

:00:29. > :00:32.also need to bear down on the delay is taking place with matching

:00:33. > :00:35.children. We need to try to get them in their placement earlier through

:00:36. > :00:39.something called fostering for adoption, or concurrent planning,

:00:40. > :00:42.and we have seen 500 children benefit from that this year but we

:00:43. > :00:46.think councils could do better, and the challenge for them today is to

:00:47. > :00:48.double those figures so that more children go into their loving,

:00:49. > :00:50.stable family homes more quickly and get all of the benefits we know that

:00:51. > :00:51.can bring. Hugh Thornbery is Chief Executive

:00:52. > :00:54.of Adoption UK. Karen Goodman worked for over 35

:00:55. > :00:57.years with children's adoption as a social worker and now is

:00:58. > :01:00.professional officer at the British Greg adopted

:01:01. > :01:04.a young boy six years ago and just a few years ago he discovered that

:01:05. > :01:07.he was himself also adopted. He doesn't want us to use

:01:08. > :01:09.his surname to protect And 'Paul' adopted three sisters

:01:10. > :01:16.aged two, three and four in 2013. We have changed his name and we're

:01:17. > :01:28.blurring his face to also protect Greg, how long did the process take

:01:29. > :01:33.for you? The actual adoption process to be approved took about six months

:01:34. > :01:38.which was a fairly good time. I think we were lucky in terms of the

:01:39. > :01:41.court date at the to be rubberstamped, it fitted in with the

:01:42. > :01:45.six months. If you miss that date, or the court might not be sitting

:01:46. > :01:51.for another couple of months, so you sort of miss out on that. But the

:01:52. > :01:55.process was ridiculous in terms of the social worker would come out for

:01:56. > :02:01.the first visit, and would ask you lots of questions. Then go away and

:02:02. > :02:07.a month back, would come back and ask you the same questions to myself

:02:08. > :02:13.and my partner at the time but why couldn't they have asked us on the

:02:14. > :02:17.first visit? We had lots of visits and then they wanted to see our

:02:18. > :02:22.birth daughter, why not see my birth daughter on the first visit, as

:02:23. > :02:25.well? It delayed it and delayed it. I felt this six-month process could

:02:26. > :02:32.easily have been brought down to two months. Paul, from beginning to end

:02:33. > :02:37.how long? From beginning to end, to the point our children were living

:02:38. > :02:42.with us was four months. So that is really quite speedy. Incredibly

:02:43. > :02:49.quick. How did your social workers manage that when we are told the

:02:50. > :02:54.average is about 17 months? We were identified very, very early on at

:02:55. > :03:00.our preparation group for a group of three that we were looking for and

:03:01. > :03:05.the match was made very, very quickly for us. Ours was sped up to

:03:06. > :03:09.make sure that we were at the point of being ready for adoption,

:03:10. > :03:14.approved and matched for when my eldest, who would have been four at

:03:15. > :03:19.the time, was then able to go to school from September. So we were

:03:20. > :03:23.pushed through at a very quick rate so that we had time of our daughters

:03:24. > :03:30.in August to form that initial bond so she was ready to start with the

:03:31. > :03:38.rest of her school in the September. So, yeah, it was incredibly quick.

:03:39. > :03:44.OK. Let's bring in Hugh Thornbery today. The measures today, all

:03:45. > :03:49.adoption services to be merged into regional bodies so children can be

:03:50. > :03:54.matched more quickly. How much, if that all happens, how much will it

:03:55. > :03:56.speed up the process? Speeding up the process is important we know

:03:57. > :04:00.delay is harmful for children and we have seen the process improve over

:04:01. > :04:04.the last couple of years. So decisions are taken in a more timely

:04:05. > :04:09.way. However, we have seen a big drop-off in the number of children

:04:10. > :04:13.for whom adoption is the right decision, so we have had an

:04:14. > :04:16.overreaction to court cases placed in September 2013 which have led to

:04:17. > :04:19.a big drop in the number of children coming forward to adopt and some

:04:20. > :04:24.measures announced today aim to tackle that which is a good thing.

:04:25. > :04:28.OK. Do you think it's a good thing for the process to be speeded up,

:04:29. > :04:32.Karen Goodman? Nobody wants to see delay but there are concerns that

:04:33. > :04:38.the process will just be looked at from a perspective of speed, rather

:04:39. > :04:41.than thoroughness and making sure that the assessment processes are as

:04:42. > :04:46.indepth as they must be and that children are placed in their

:04:47. > :04:49.absolutely the best and correct placements and that doesn't

:04:50. > :04:54.necessarily involve speed. Do you accept the point that he felt he was

:04:55. > :04:57.being asked the same sorts of questions on several visits from

:04:58. > :05:00.Greg? Greg will have seen one part of the process, from his

:05:01. > :05:06.perspective. But meanwhile the social worker is doing a number of

:05:07. > :05:08.other checks, making inquiries, talking to different people,

:05:09. > :05:13.organising panels, preparing reports for panels. It's a long and

:05:14. > :05:17.complicated process. He will just see one part of that. He did

:05:18. > :05:22.experience the same questions being asked. Yes. Sometimes you have is to

:05:23. > :05:30.ask things a few times. Do you? Yes, it's very important that the process

:05:31. > :05:32.is given the time to mature. Did your answers change Greg when you

:05:33. > :05:37.were asked the same questions? Not really. I understand there has got

:05:38. > :05:42.to be, what potential adopters have to realise is the fact that just

:05:43. > :05:45.because they ring up whoever the local council, whether they're

:05:46. > :05:49.thinking of adopting, doesn't mean the following week they'll get a

:05:50. > :05:52.child. If you get approved doesn't mean you can't pull out of that

:05:53. > :05:57.process. Yes, it's a waste of time, but if you are not ready to adopt,

:05:58. > :06:04.then don't adopt. I think with the case of my son, my son was taken

:06:05. > :06:09.into care on his first day of birth. He was with the same Foster parents,

:06:10. > :06:14.fantastic Foster parents for 18 months. He had an amazing 18 months

:06:15. > :06:18.with these. But there was a, will he go back to the birth mother, will he

:06:19. > :06:22.go out for adoption? It wasn't a case of me being approved or not

:06:23. > :06:26.because we ended up with him further down the process. It was a case of

:06:27. > :06:29.he was put into care and kept in care because they weren't sure was

:06:30. > :06:34.he going to be adopted or go back to the birth parents? It was clear from

:06:35. > :06:41.day one he was never going to go back to the birth parents. There is

:06:42. > :06:45.that delay, as well. What do you, in terms of becoming an adopted parent

:06:46. > :06:49.what are the criteria? Well, it's very broad. We managed to dispel a

:06:50. > :06:55.lot of the myths about who can't adopt. The important thing is that

:06:56. > :06:59.people have the right motivation, that they have the capacity, the

:07:00. > :07:04.capability to parent well and one of the things we must not forget is 71%

:07:05. > :07:07.of children adopted from care have been seriously abused before coming

:07:08. > :07:10.into the care system, they will have needs that will endure for years.

:07:11. > :07:15.The right support needs to be there to support the parents adopting

:07:16. > :07:17.them, and parents also need to understand that these children

:07:18. > :07:21.aren't general run of the mill children, they do have issues that

:07:22. > :07:23.come from their past abuse and will need careful parenting to help them

:07:24. > :07:32.move on. Thank you all very much. He was determined to leave

:07:33. > :07:34.Guantanamo Bay with his integrity intact and he has absolutely done

:07:35. > :07:38.that - the words of one of of the doctors who treated Shaker Aamer

:07:39. > :07:41.hours after he landed in Britain. The 48-year-old British resident was

:07:42. > :07:44.held at the US detention facility for nearly

:07:45. > :07:49.14 years without charge of trial David Nicholl,

:07:50. > :07:52.a consultant neurologist, told us that Mr Aamer was given an

:07:53. > :08:00.overdose of a strong anti-malaria drug when he first arrived

:08:01. > :08:03.at Guantanamo Bay - even though Mr Nicholl, who has campaigned

:08:04. > :08:12.for Shaker Aamer's release, explained what condition he was

:08:13. > :08:17.in when he first met him. When I met him I was really struck

:08:18. > :08:21.by his very positive demeanour. Just, not surprisingly,

:08:22. > :08:23.absolutely over the moon to see us. What was just striking,

:08:24. > :08:33.he sat us all down and just said, I need you to picture that I've

:08:34. > :08:46.just arrived from Mars and, because you need to understand that really,

:08:47. > :08:50.he has a complete lack of faith in all the health care professionals

:08:51. > :08:54.he met in Guantanamo, to the extent that, and this is really, my jaw

:08:55. > :08:59.dropped hearing this, he hadn't eaten or drunk

:09:00. > :09:01.at all, all the way from Guantanamo. All this talk about being in a posh

:09:02. > :09:05.jet flying back at the taxpayer's expense, that was actually the level

:09:06. > :09:07.of determination of this man. The first thing he wanted to do was

:09:08. > :09:11.to get back and see a doctor and have tests and investigations

:09:12. > :09:16.to make sure he was fit and well. And also he felt, I'm expressing

:09:17. > :09:19.his view here, he felt that he had been poisoned or things had been put

:09:20. > :09:25.in his food over the years and he really wanted to establish any

:09:26. > :09:35.evidential basis for the torture he had experienced through health

:09:36. > :09:36.care professionals, which just Was the reason he didn't eat or

:09:37. > :09:42.drink on the plane, on the journey No, I think it was more, he wanted

:09:43. > :09:53.to present himself in a way in which nothing had been touched, that

:09:54. > :09:58.the evidential trail was clear. That no one could argue that anyone

:09:59. > :10:00.had tinkered with the evidence It might seem crazy,

:10:01. > :10:12.but everything about Guantanamo is crazy and that was his passionate

:10:13. > :10:15.and absolutely firm held belief. Equally, I have to say,

:10:16. > :10:17.it's like all these things in a doctor-patient relationship, you're

:10:18. > :10:20.trying to explain what is reasonable So what I did say to him,

:10:21. > :10:29.because this is in the public record, it is known that

:10:30. > :10:32.when prisoners arrive at Guantanamo, that it was standard operating

:10:33. > :10:34.procedure that they were given overdoses of a drug called Mephaquin

:10:35. > :10:37.which is an antimalarial drug. It's a very controversial drug, it

:10:38. > :10:39.has been associated with psychosis None of the soldiers,

:10:40. > :10:46.no one else arriving in Guantanamo He was actually surprised I knew

:10:47. > :10:52.that but I said that, if we were to measure Mephaquin,

:10:53. > :10:54.we wouldn't detect it now He may have that belief

:10:55. > :10:59.but he just wants to have every investigation and possible almost

:11:00. > :11:06.as a medical legal matter to Hence not wanting to contaminate

:11:07. > :11:21.his body, if that is the right word, on the plane,

:11:22. > :11:23.by eating or drinking anything. Just on the Mephaquin,

:11:24. > :11:26.the antimalarial, is there any risk I only heard about this

:11:27. > :11:29.about a year ago. There was a freedom of information

:11:30. > :11:32.request to get these details. There is no reason at all to

:11:33. > :11:41.give someone Mephaquin in Cuba. Essentially,

:11:42. > :11:46.there is no malaria in Cuba. Staff, military staff that have come

:11:47. > :11:52.from the same regions as these detainees came from,

:11:53. > :11:54.were not given Mephaquin. None of

:11:55. > :11:57.the soldiers were given Mephaquin. And the dose they were given was

:11:58. > :12:00.essentially five times the therapeutic dose

:12:01. > :12:03.so highly likely to produce really What would be the motivation

:12:04. > :12:08.from a medical professional's point of view to give someone Mephaquin

:12:09. > :12:11.when there is no reason to? And really questions should be

:12:12. > :12:20.asked about who wrote that policy. Well, you may recall,

:12:21. > :12:28.this was in the news recently, about It can be a very useful drug

:12:29. > :12:34.in malarial areas. Can I ask you what Shaker Aamer

:12:35. > :12:49.looked like? The thing is, he does look quite

:12:50. > :12:52.different to the photographs you have seen already and that is

:12:53. > :12:56.because he is 14 years older. So he does look

:12:57. > :12:59.a lot older than those pictures. And I'm sure that's a consequence

:13:00. > :13:01.of his detention, basically. What was really striking was that

:13:02. > :13:09.same smile that you see in the And the warmth

:13:10. > :13:14.of his personality absolutely beamed And I have to say the determination,

:13:15. > :13:22.and that is exemplified by what he You can actually see, he is probably

:13:23. > :13:28.a bit of a pain in the ours! But that's actually what got him

:13:29. > :13:29.through. And I suppose in that,

:13:30. > :13:42.we are both quite similar! We've contacted the US Department of

:13:43. > :13:44.Defence to comment on those claims We can talk now to Clive

:13:45. > :13:58.Stafford-Smith, Shaker Aamer's Can you give us an insight into his

:13:59. > :14:03.state of mind? David Nicholls said it all. Shaker is Shaker. He is

:14:04. > :14:07.indomitable and he maintains his sense of humour. It was lovely to

:14:08. > :14:11.talk to him. It's such a joy to have a conversation with him here in

:14:12. > :14:16.Britain as opposed to in Guantanamo Bay. It's reported that he is likely

:14:17. > :14:19.to receive ?1 million in compensation from the British

:14:20. > :14:24.Government. Is that true and if so what is that for? Well, I don't

:14:25. > :14:30.know, that's not what I do. I am only licensed in America so I don't

:14:31. > :14:33.have anything to do with what happens here in Britain. We will

:14:34. > :14:37.certainly be suing the United States and I can tell you with almost 100%

:14:38. > :14:42.certainty he won't receive anything at all from the Americans, for 14

:14:43. > :14:47.years of torture and 14 years of detention without trial. Because of

:14:48. > :14:51.all these absurd legal rules that say that the Government can set up a

:14:52. > :14:57.rule that you can't sue them, no matter what they do to you. I think

:14:58. > :15:05.it's really important we bring that litigation as a matter of principle.

:15:06. > :15:10.With the extent of potentially what happened to Shaker Aamer at Bagram

:15:11. > :15:13.before being transferred to Cuba where it's alleged a British

:15:14. > :15:21.intelligence officer witnessed his head smashed against a wall, do you

:15:22. > :15:27.need a public inquiry for the extent of those allegations being made by

:15:28. > :15:32.Shaker Aamer to come out? That's the key, frankly Shaker's big interest

:15:33. > :15:35.in all of this is not that people should pay money although I dare say

:15:36. > :15:41.they probably ought to if you have been tortured all that time and it's

:15:42. > :15:47.not that people should be prosecuted or persecuted or whatever, he is

:15:48. > :15:51.absolutely firm that there needs to be an impartial and transparent

:15:52. > :15:54.inquiry because he says, look, we can't undo what what's happened to

:15:55. > :15:57.me but we can try to make sure that in future the rules are in place

:15:58. > :16:02.that other people don't have to go through this. You know, we sort of

:16:03. > :16:06.totally lost sight as a nation and certainly the United States did too

:16:07. > :16:09.of what our values are if we were really involved in all of that

:16:10. > :16:17.torture in Bagram. Thank you very much.

:16:18. > :16:21.We'll bring you coverage of the funeral for PC Dave Phillips,

:16:22. > :16:27.knocked down and killed by a pick-up truck while on duty on Merseyside.

:16:28. > :16:30.And there's been an explosion of online dating apps,

:16:31. > :16:33.but a leading sexual health consultant has told us he wants

:16:34. > :16:36.dating apps to do more to promote safe sex messages after a rise

:16:37. > :16:57.The manager at a Metrojet airline in Russia has denied the Airbus plane

:16:58. > :17:02.could have broken in midair over Egypt because of technical or pilot

:17:03. > :17:09.error. But a Kremlin spokesperson has warned against speculating over

:17:10. > :17:16.the course of the crash. The bodies of some of the people killed in the

:17:17. > :17:18.crash have been flown home to St Petersburg.

:17:19. > :17:23.Aviation analyst Julian Bray listened to what was said.

:17:24. > :17:28.They are suggesting there are dark forces out there and things have

:17:29. > :17:40.happened outside of their control. Worryingly, there are no reports of

:17:41. > :17:44.conversations with communications, so the smart money is on a device

:17:45. > :17:47.placed on board but that is pure speculation at the moment. We will

:17:48. > :17:50.have to wait for the black boxes to be decoded.

:17:51. > :17:53.Thick fog is causing widespread travel disruption across the UK

:17:54. > :18:00.Our correspondent Daniel Boettcher is at Heathrow Airport.

:18:01. > :18:10.How bad is it? At this airport they are waiting for

:18:11. > :18:16.the folk to believe did, -- waiting for the fog to be lifted, 10% of

:18:17. > :18:20.flights have been cancelled. Stansted say they have no problems

:18:21. > :18:28.and are taking diverted aircraft from other airports. Gatwick have

:18:29. > :18:31.low figures for us. There are problems at Belfast, Cardiff,

:18:32. > :18:34.Southampton, and it is not just the UK, the fog is causing problems in

:18:35. > :18:40.airports including Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Brussels as well. This is

:18:41. > :18:43.the second day the fog has caused problems and it means an aircraft

:18:44. > :18:48.and crews are out of position, causing more difficulties. There is

:18:49. > :18:52.still a weather warning in place from the Met office at the moment.

:18:53. > :18:56.We are told the fog is expected to start clearing later this morning,

:18:57. > :18:59.but at the moment it is causing problems not just for the flights

:19:00. > :19:04.but motorists as well, and they are being advised to allow extra time,

:19:05. > :19:05.to slow down and keep distance from the traffic in front.

:19:06. > :19:08.Thank you very much. A man who was orphaned at the age

:19:09. > :19:11.of eight has called for an apology from his local

:19:12. > :19:13.authority after being abandoned Tony Hawkins and his three siblings

:19:14. > :19:23.have been awarded around ?75,000 in compensation after his parents

:19:24. > :19:24.died We started pursuing these files

:19:25. > :19:30.seven years ago and they have repeatedly fobbed us off, ignored

:19:31. > :19:34.us, and even after the award they have never directly approached

:19:35. > :19:37.us with an apology to say, "We failed, we don't know why,

:19:38. > :19:45.but we hope it never happens again." Figures from the worlds

:19:46. > :19:47.of entertainment and sport have joined a cross-party

:19:48. > :19:50.campaign for increased funding of Over 200 names have signed an open

:19:51. > :19:54.letter to the Government, calling for mental health to be given the

:19:55. > :20:02.same priority as physical health. Let's catch up with all

:20:03. > :20:06.the sport now and join Tim. Thank you, here are the main

:20:07. > :20:09.sporting headlines: England's cricketers are battling to

:20:10. > :20:11.save the series against Pakistan. On day two of the third

:20:12. > :20:14.and final Test, they're currently Joe Root, Alastair Cook and

:20:15. > :20:19.Moeen Ali the men out. Former Arsenal player Remi Garde

:20:20. > :20:21.will be announced as Aston Villa's He'll be in the stands as Villa,

:20:22. > :20:26.who are bottom, take on Spurs New Zealand may have won

:20:27. > :20:37.the rugby union world cup but their rugby league team, who are

:20:38. > :20:40.also ranked number one in the world, A great victory completed

:20:41. > :20:44.by captain Sean O'Loughlin try. And it was victory for Nico Rosberg

:20:45. > :20:47.in last night's Mexico formula one He finished ahead of his Meredes

:20:48. > :20:54.team mate and newly-crowned world champion Lewis Hmailton, and is now

:20:55. > :20:56.up to second in the drivers' The funeral will take place later

:20:57. > :21:04.today for PC Dave Phillips. The 34-year-old,

:21:05. > :21:07.who had two children, was knocked down and killed by a pick-up truck

:21:08. > :21:10.while on duty on Merseyside. Our correspondent Ben Brown is

:21:11. > :21:13.outside Liverpool's Anglican cathedral,

:21:14. > :21:26.where the service is taking place. What is happening at the moment?

:21:27. > :21:32.Well, it is a faulty, chilly morning in Liverpool, and at the Anglican

:21:33. > :21:35.Cathedral, inside there now, the choir of them Greater Manchester

:21:36. > :21:40.Police force are rehearsing, they will be sinking during the service.

:21:41. > :21:45.2000 seats have been set out, it is expected by the family there will be

:21:46. > :21:49.2000 mourners here to remember the life of PC David Phillips. About

:21:50. > :21:54.1000 of those will be police officers, not only from here in the

:21:55. > :21:57.Merseyside police force but officers from right around the country will

:21:58. > :22:04.be coming here to pay their respects to this officer, 34-year-old Dave

:22:05. > :22:09.Phillips, killed in the Line Of Duty standing on the central reservation

:22:10. > :22:14.in the early hours of Monday the 25th of October, when he was hit by

:22:15. > :22:19.a pick-up truck and killed. He leaves a widow, Jen, and two young

:22:20. > :22:25.daughters, Abigail, who is seven, and so the, just three. One man has

:22:26. > :22:33.been charged with murder in the wake of that, he will face trial in due

:22:34. > :22:37.course in Preston. Two other people have been charged in connection with

:22:38. > :22:42.the death as well but today is about remembering the life of PC David

:22:43. > :22:45.Phillips and remembering the bravery of police officers every day they go

:22:46. > :22:52.on duty. The reverend leading the service is a priest from the Wirral

:22:53. > :22:55.who was a family friend of the Phillips family and has said that

:22:56. > :23:00.every time a police officer goes on duty, they are putting their lives

:23:01. > :23:04.at risk for the good of society. He said that today is about celebrating

:23:05. > :23:10.what was good about Dave Phillips' life. There will also be tributes

:23:11. > :23:15.from his sister, Hannah, during the service. She said shortly after he

:23:16. > :23:20.was killed that two girls have been left without a daddy, her mum and

:23:21. > :23:24.dad have been left without their only son, their oldest child, and

:23:25. > :23:29.she and her sister left without the Big Brother who always kept an eye

:23:30. > :23:33.on them. There will also be a Bible reading from Dave Phillips' best

:23:34. > :23:38.friend and a tribute from the Chief Constable of Merseyside, Sir John

:23:39. > :23:43.Murphy. As the cortege moved through the city centre, people from across

:23:44. > :23:46.Liverpool are expected to line the streets to remember him and also, of

:23:47. > :23:48.course, Hezbollah officers here on Merseyside.

:23:49. > :23:53.Can the explosion of online dating apps be linked to the recent rise

:23:54. > :23:56.A leading sexual health consultant has told us he

:23:57. > :24:02.wants dating apps to do more to promote safe sex messages.

:24:03. > :24:06.Plans to give the Government more power to find out what we're looking

:24:07. > :24:09.at on the internet will be published by the Government this week.

:24:10. > :24:14.Our political guru Norman Smith can explain more.

:24:15. > :24:21.This matters because it is about what power was the state house to

:24:22. > :24:25.snoop on its citizens, on you and me, to look at what we write in our

:24:26. > :24:30.e-mails, to look at what we are looking at on the Internet, to take

:24:31. > :24:36.a peek at the text messages we send. The Government's view is that

:24:37. > :24:42.the security services now need to move from the era of the telephone

:24:43. > :24:45.to the digital era, because, at the moment, the security services can

:24:46. > :24:49.monitor who I am calling on the blower, how long I speak to them,

:24:50. > :24:53.and, if they want to know what I am saying, they can apply for a warrant

:24:54. > :24:57.to listen to my conversations. What the Government is proposing is the

:24:58. > :25:02.same for the digital it were. So, for example, here are my e-mails.

:25:03. > :25:12.The state in the form of the police and security services will be able

:25:13. > :25:15.to see who I am sending e-mails to, when I sent them, but if they wanted

:25:16. > :25:17.to see what I had written they would have to apply for a warrant,

:25:18. > :25:20.similarly we look at the Internet, here we have the Guardian front

:25:21. > :25:23.page, they would be able to see I have visited the Guardian site but

:25:24. > :25:30.if they wanted to know what pages I had visited on it or what I had

:25:31. > :25:35.searched on it, they would have to apply for a warrant. That is the key

:25:36. > :25:38.thing, a warrant. Who will decide whether the security services should

:25:39. > :25:43.have a warrant? There are two arguments, should it be the

:25:44. > :25:46.politicians or the judges? If the politicians decide, the argument in

:25:47. > :25:51.favour of allowing politicians to decide if it is accountable, if a

:25:52. > :25:54.bomb goes off and a politician has not granted a warrant, they can be

:25:55. > :26:00.summoned before Parliament to explain why they have not done that.

:26:01. > :26:04.It is also more practical, if there is a fast-moving terrorist situation

:26:05. > :26:08.where security services need access to someone's e-mail quickly it is

:26:09. > :26:12.easier to get hold of the Home Secretary than to wake up a judge in

:26:13. > :26:18.his country home or something like that. It is also argued that it is

:26:19. > :26:21.just more appropriate, more transparent to have a politician

:26:22. > :26:24.because everyone knows who they are, but they don't always know who a

:26:25. > :26:29.judge is. The argument in favour of judges is

:26:30. > :26:33.that it is independent of the political process, and many

:26:34. > :26:39.politicians take the view that politicians should not have any role

:26:40. > :26:43.in deciding who snoops on us, it needs to be absolutely independent,

:26:44. > :26:48.so there is no crossover at all with the world of politics. It is also

:26:49. > :26:53.argued that granting a warrant is a legal process so obviously should be

:26:54. > :26:56.left to a judge. Lastly, foreign judges do this already. In the

:26:57. > :27:01.United States, warrants are granted by judges, but that is where the

:27:02. > :27:07.real argy-bargy is, who should decide who gets a warrant? Should it

:27:08. > :27:12.be the Home Secretary or a judge? Depending what answer Theresa May

:27:13. > :27:15.comes up with, it may well determine whether this legislation goes

:27:16. > :27:19.through, because many MPs are absolutely adamant they do not want

:27:20. > :27:24.her hands on this at all. They want it to be a judge, and if she says,

:27:25. > :27:26.no, I must have a role, then it is possible the Government will be

:27:27. > :27:31.defeated. I think it will be introduced on

:27:32. > :27:35.Wednesday, the legislation. Will we find out definitively what answer

:27:36. > :27:40.she has on Wednesday? Yes, we will. My gut instinct is we

:27:41. > :27:46.will get a hybrid compromise from her, which will involve, yes,

:27:47. > :27:50.judges, but also involve the Home Secretary. My feeling is what we are

:27:51. > :27:53.likely to see is that the initial request for a warrant would go to

:27:54. > :27:58.the Home Secretary because it would have to be taken quickly, so she

:27:59. > :28:02.could do that, but then that decision would be subject to a

:28:03. > :28:05.review by judges, in other words judges would have to take a look at

:28:06. > :28:10.her decision and say, yes, that is OK, no, it is not OK. The many

:28:11. > :28:14.politicians, that is not good enough, they want her out of the

:28:15. > :28:19.picture altogether, but my sense is she is reluctant to do that

:28:20. > :28:22.primarily because of argument of accountability and the need to act

:28:23. > :28:27.quickly. She does not want the security services left waiting

:28:28. > :28:29.trying to get hold of a judge in the middle of the night.

:28:30. > :28:31.Thank you very much, Norman Smith at Westminster.

:28:32. > :28:33.This morning we've been talking about the proliferation

:28:34. > :28:37.Their use has exploded over the last few years from Tinder, which is

:28:38. > :28:40.the most popular one in the UK, to Grindr for gay or bisexual men.

:28:41. > :28:44.There are now hundreds of them and, in a relatively short space of time,

:28:45. > :28:46.they've become the fourth most common way of meeting a partner.

:28:47. > :28:48.But a leading sexual health consultant

:28:49. > :28:52.is calling for dating apps to do more to promote safe sex messages.

:28:53. > :28:54.Peter Greenhouse claims such sites are fuelling a rise

:28:55. > :28:58.The latest figures from Public Health England show

:28:59. > :29:08.a 33% increase in cases of syphilis, with gonorrhoea up 19%.

:29:09. > :29:13.You should be able to turn over partners are a lot quicker with a

:29:14. > :29:17.dating app. The problem is the quicker you change partners, the

:29:18. > :29:20.more likely you are to get infections, you don't have to be a

:29:21. > :29:24.rocket scientist to work it out. Also, if you are keen to change

:29:25. > :29:26.partners quickly, having a dating app does not just tell you if

:29:27. > :29:31.somebody is available but exactly where they are to within the nearest

:29:32. > :29:36.few metres. You could be in a bar, put in your details into the app,

:29:37. > :29:40.swipe this way or that way and find somebody on the other side of the

:29:41. > :29:44.bar who is up for it, so that must increase the rate at which you

:29:45. > :29:46.change partner or find a new partner, and that in itself has got

:29:47. > :29:48.to increase the risk of sexually transmitted infections.

:29:49. > :29:51.With the growth of dating apps seemingly showing no

:29:52. > :29:54.sign of abating, Radio 1 Newsbeat's Rick Kelsey meets some people who

:29:55. > :30:29.His report contains some base language.

:30:30. > :30:36.Do you ever think you are spending too much time on this? I preferred

:30:37. > :30:45.the chase. How often do you take it through to the end point? Actually

:30:46. > :30:56.getting laid? Yes. I have never gotten laid from one. So you are on

:30:57. > :31:05.these 46, seven hours a day... Window shopping. You look

:31:06. > :31:10.surprised? I am, a little bit! I should take it as a massive hit, a

:31:11. > :31:15.red light, white using this if you were not enjoying it? But I am, at

:31:16. > :31:19.the same time. I have had enough of guys my age had nothing to give me

:31:20. > :31:22.physically, emotionally or materialistic, so I thought I would

:31:23. > :31:29.give it a go and there are some pretty decent guys.

:31:30. > :31:34.Clover uses an app called Seating Arrangement which many women use to

:31:35. > :31:38.meet guys who will give them presents. She keeps much of what she

:31:39. > :31:47.is given in a room at her parents' house. Look at this! What is in the

:31:48. > :31:52.bag? All kinds of stuff, girl stuff, lingerie, clothes, jewellery, bags,

:31:53. > :32:00.Perkins, stuff like that. What is it about the setup of an app like that

:32:01. > :32:04.that interest you? It was not for chavvy people, most apps anyone can

:32:05. > :32:08.go one but this one has a standard, they are where they want to be in

:32:09. > :32:14.life and just want to have fun now. Because of what you are getting, is

:32:15. > :32:18.there an expectation of sex? Sometimes, sometimes. But they are

:32:19. > :32:22.usually quite forward with that, they usually say it straightaway,

:32:23. > :32:26.because of that is what they want, it is what they want. But if it is

:32:27. > :32:32.not what I want, it is not what I will do because it is not what I

:32:33. > :32:35.want. Marianne uses a dating app to look

:32:36. > :32:40.for specific men, giving her control in the search for a husband. There

:32:41. > :32:47.is no point using other apps because I have two marry a Muslim guy, and I

:32:48. > :32:54.don't want to be wasting my time. I thought I would give it a try. Try

:32:55. > :32:58.my luck, see what happens! You are worried about your family finding

:32:59. > :33:03.out you were on an app? Yes, my sisters know because they are laid

:33:04. > :33:07.back and modern. But if my dad realised I would on there, he would

:33:08. > :33:18.be like, what the hell?! I could not say, dad, I have met my 'the one' on

:33:19. > :33:22.a dating app, I would have to make a a story, I met him through a friend

:33:23. > :33:23.of a friend, old school. You can watch that story on the

:33:24. > :33:28.radio ones big website. Let's talk about this some more with

:33:29. > :33:31.Cary James, who is an expert in sexual health at the

:33:32. > :33:33.Terrence Higgins Trust, a charity which promotes awareness of HIV

:33:34. > :33:54.and sexually transmitted diseases. Er. What do you think of this link?

:33:55. > :33:57.There's reasons why sexually transmitted diseases are on the rise

:33:58. > :34:06.It's said there is a link between the rise and the rise in dataing

:34:07. > :34:15.apps and the use of them? I think we had a major problem with chlamydia

:34:16. > :34:18.before the apps start the. The behaviour of people on the apps is

:34:19. > :34:24.down to the individual. It's also about where do they learn how to

:34:25. > :34:30.navigate their own sexual behaviour? I think it's a real indication of

:34:31. > :34:35.the lack of sexual health information in schools and the kind

:34:36. > :34:40.- it's not compulsory in schools. If people don't know when they start

:34:41. > :34:42.having romantic relationships how to protect themselves and have a

:34:43. > :34:50.healthy sex life it's very difficult to navigate it once they've already

:34:51. > :34:54.had their sexual debut. I don't know why that would even explain the

:34:55. > :34:58.reasonable rise in STIs in the last year. I think there is a lot of

:34:59. > :35:03.reasons around subgroups. It's quite complicated. The thing that

:35:04. > :35:07.smartphone apps have changed is how sexual networks are created. Let's

:35:08. > :35:11.say in the old days people would go to a bar or nightclub and that was

:35:12. > :35:17.where their sexual network was based, in the late 90s that changed

:35:18. > :35:22.to websites. Now it's changed again. Every time there is this change in

:35:23. > :35:27.how people meet sexual partners there is this questioning how can we

:35:28. > :35:32.use tools to better educate people. This is the latest way this has

:35:33. > :35:36.happened. Sure. I still don't understand why there might be a rise

:35:37. > :35:39.in certain STIs because of a link with dating apps as opposed to

:35:40. > :35:44.meeting in a bar, what's the difference? I think if you look at

:35:45. > :35:47.the research they're talking about they're saying that people,

:35:48. > :35:54.especially the ones from America, they're saying people on dating apps

:35:55. > :35:57.are more likely to have an STI. Using a dating app is the quickest

:35:58. > :36:01.way to find sexual partners so people that want to find multiple

:36:02. > :36:05.sexual partners and find it in a quick and effective way are drawn to

:36:06. > :36:09.that. That group could well be the same group that would have had high

:36:10. > :36:18.levels of STIs before, they're using a new platform. So they already had

:36:19. > :36:22.before they began using the app. This is the latest way they've found

:36:23. > :36:26.they can find those partners. In terms of the lack of relationship

:36:27. > :36:30.and sexual education in schools that you talked about at the beginning,

:36:31. > :36:35.that seems to have been an issue in schools in this country for years

:36:36. > :36:40.and years. Are you saying it's still not detailed enough for teenagers?

:36:41. > :36:44.Absolutely not. There was a recent poll that showed four out of five

:36:45. > :36:47.young people would like to have sexual relationship education in

:36:48. > :36:52.schools but at least a third of schools aren't providing good

:36:53. > :36:57.quality SRE. That's why the trust continues to campaign that on sex

:36:58. > :37:01.and education be compulsory in all schools and it's age spes fk and

:37:02. > :37:04.starts before the time that people start having romantic relationships.

:37:05. > :37:08.It is up to teachers to do that rather than mums and dads? I think

:37:09. > :37:13.mums and dads have a definite role. Teachers have a definite role. I

:37:14. > :37:17.think community organisations like the trust can also support these

:37:18. > :37:20.structures in order to get the information on there, talk about how

:37:21. > :37:28.to have these conversations in a meaningful and impactful way. Thank

:37:29. > :37:32.you. Tell us if you can hear a similarity

:37:33. > :37:40.between the lyrics in these two tracks.

:37:41. > :37:49.# The players gonna play and the haters gonna hate

:37:50. > :38:00.# I am gonna shake, shake, shake it off

:38:01. > :38:11.# Haters gonna hate # Players gonna play

:38:12. > :38:32.# That was Taylor swift and another

:38:33. > :38:37.song you might never have heard of by Jesse Braham. He is suing Taylor

:38:38. > :38:53.Swift are to 27 million for allegedly stealing the lyrics. He is

:38:54. > :39:00.singing haters gon hate. It's the way he sings it. It's a slow jam. He

:39:01. > :39:08.sings haters gonna hate. They're two key phrases from that massive Taylor

:39:09. > :39:12.Swift song. He has said that he has copyright of those lyrics and is now

:39:13. > :39:18.suing her for around ?27 million. It's tricky ground for him to be

:39:19. > :39:21.suing her on this basis. Why? When it comes to lyrics there's very

:39:22. > :39:25.different things in copyright law. It has to be original. There has to

:39:26. > :39:30.be a substantial amount of the song that you have copied and it has to

:39:31. > :39:36.be actually copied. There is no similarity in the song. Musically.

:39:37. > :39:40.And a phrase like haters gonna hate, that's not an original phrase.

:39:41. > :39:44.That's been used in hip hop since the 90s or something. Whether he

:39:45. > :39:47.does have a claim, I mean, obviously in America things can go to court

:39:48. > :39:52.and then you are at the mercy of a jury who might decide against Taylor

:39:53. > :39:58.Swift, you never know. But at the moment it doesn't - it's shaky

:39:59. > :40:02.ground for him to go on. Also, he started off asking for a writing

:40:03. > :40:06.credit. And a selfie and he got turned down for that. Now he is

:40:07. > :40:09.going, like, full steam ahead with wanting this amount of money. Maybe

:40:10. > :40:15.Taylor's record company should have said of course you can have a selfie

:40:16. > :40:19.with her! But they kind of dismissed him effectively, now he has got even

:40:20. > :40:24.crosser? Yeah, we have - they've made no comment. From the interview

:40:25. > :40:28.he has given he said that he asked for a writing credit and they said

:40:29. > :40:33.you have no claim. They're not commenting on it. Thank you very

:40:34. > :40:37.much. Lots of you have got in touch this

:40:38. > :40:43.morning to comment on our interview with a man who was orphaned at the

:40:44. > :40:46.age of eight and effectively he and his three siblingings were abandoned

:40:47. > :40:50.by the local authority and left to bring themselves up because their

:40:51. > :40:53.parents died and they were awarded ?75,000 in compensation recently

:40:54. > :40:56.from Liverpool City Council and are asking for an apology from the local

:40:57. > :41:01.authority. He has called Tony Hawkins and he told us about his

:41:02. > :41:07.upbringing after his mum and dad died from accidental poisoning. It

:41:08. > :41:10.went from being just a normal family, siblings arguing and

:41:11. > :41:17.fighting and a very warm family environment, food on the table, all

:41:18. > :41:24.sitting around having our tea of an evening, to overnight just becoming

:41:25. > :41:30.chaotic. James quickly with that responsibility and the pressure for

:41:31. > :41:35.him became too much. His life went quickly downhill. Clare went to live

:41:36. > :41:40.with a distant family member, I say distant, one not close to us and

:41:41. > :41:47.within a week was back with us. She had learning disabilities so she

:41:48. > :41:50.struggled. For Stephen and I we were straightaway put in a position where

:41:51. > :41:54.we had to fend for ourselves, we realised it was down to us. We were

:41:55. > :41:59.only kids and we would have conversations like, can you feel

:42:00. > :42:07.that pain in your stomach? Like, yeah, it was hunger. What were you

:42:08. > :42:11.eating? There was nothing. The dog biscuits was, that's all there was

:42:12. > :42:16.in the kitchen so I would nibble on dog biscuits. If there was bread I

:42:17. > :42:20.would put something like vinegar or anything else normally in the

:42:21. > :42:23.cupboard, and we would repeatedly walk into the kitchen and open

:42:24. > :42:29.cupboards knowing there was nothing there to eat. Tony Hawkins talking

:42:30. > :42:34.earlier. Steve e-mailed to say their case cannot have been unique, I was

:42:35. > :42:38.in a bedsit at 15, I was left to fend for myself. I ended up with six

:42:39. > :42:43.months in custody, remember leased before my 16th birthday. There was

:42:44. > :42:48.no school and I ended up on a YTS for the unemployed. Another tweet,

:42:49. > :42:51.pursuing a negligence claim will force the council to give the

:42:52. > :42:56.answers they're holding back from giving. Louise e-mails to say, I

:42:57. > :42:59.feel for Tony and his siblings having no answers. I have memories

:43:00. > :43:03.of being in different homes when I was young but those memories are

:43:04. > :43:07.blurred. I can't get answers either. It makes me feel like a part of my

:43:08. > :43:10.childhood doesn't actually exist. I feel frustrated and I need the

:43:11. > :43:16.answers for closure. This text says, I am a practising

:43:17. > :43:20.social worker and I am dismayed by the ?75,000 in compensation to this

:43:21. > :43:23.family. 30 years ago social work was in a very different place.

:43:24. > :43:28.Thankfully all public services have evolved and children and the public

:43:29. > :43:31.are much better protected. I am disgusted this compensation claim

:43:32. > :43:34.seems to be purely financial driven and has resulted in the council

:43:35. > :43:39.paying the equivalent of two years' salary of a social worker that will

:43:40. > :43:46.result in children already at risk today receiving fewer resources. On

:43:47. > :43:49.the programme tomorrow we meet some people who defected from North

:43:50. > :43:52.Korea. Thank you very much for your company today. Have a good day. We

:43:53. > :44:00.are back tomorrow at 9. 9.15am.