19/11/2015

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Thursday, it's 9.15, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:11. > :00:15.Police searching for missing teenager Kayleigh Haywood have found

:00:16. > :00:22.The French authorities say they still don't know

:00:23. > :00:25.if the suspected co-ordinator of the attacks in Paris was among those

:00:26. > :00:29.They say Abdelhamid Abaaoud was not among eight people arrested

:00:30. > :00:33.during the assault on the building but they haven't identified

:00:34. > :00:41.Calls for stricter controls on the sale of acid as the number of

:00:42. > :00:55.Why was I a target in this way? It was wrong place, wrong person, wrong

:00:56. > :00:57.time. Unfortunately, I opened the door that day and I believe they

:00:58. > :00:59.panicked, threw it and ran. An acid attack victim tells us how

:01:00. > :01:03.a case of mistaken identity nearly Hello, welcome to the programme,

:01:04. > :01:14.we're on BBC 2 and the BBC News Hopefully you know by now that

:01:15. > :01:19.your contributions to this programme are very welcome, more than that

:01:20. > :01:21.actually they are integral. Very interested to gauge

:01:22. > :01:25.from you this morning where you stand on junior doctors in their

:01:26. > :01:28.dispute over their new contracts which England's Health Sec Jeremy

:01:29. > :01:32.Hunt is going to impose on them. This morning we're expecting the

:01:33. > :01:37.result of their ballot on strike action; it's expected a majority

:01:38. > :02:05.will vote in favour of all-out Forensic specialists are trying to

:02:06. > :02:08.work out if the man said to have planned Friday's deadly attacks in

:02:09. > :02:14.Paris is one of those killed in yesterday's huge armed police raid.

:02:15. > :02:18.Is Abdelhamid Abaaoud dead? Last night, the French prosecutor said he

:02:19. > :02:21.didn't know yet. He wasn't among the eight people arrested in the raid

:02:22. > :02:27.but human remains haven't been identified. A woman blew herself up.

:02:28. > :02:36.It's reported that she is Abaaoud's cousin and another suspect was shot

:02:37. > :03:01.dead with 5000 rounds of ammunition fired yesterday in Saint Denis. Were

:03:02. > :03:06.joined by our guest now. What is the situation? I have no

:03:07. > :03:10.doubt that the debate, which will start in the Parliament, that

:03:11. > :03:16.there'll be total unity behind the Prime Minister in order to respond

:03:17. > :03:24.to give the proper response to the attacks that we are sustaining at

:03:25. > :03:27.the moment. You mean to extend the state of emergency across the

:03:28. > :03:31.country? Yes, absolutely, to be extended up to three months, that is

:03:32. > :03:35.what the Prime Minister is going to be looking for. Of course, we need

:03:36. > :03:40.to have a balance as to the measures that are taken that will not impede

:03:41. > :03:45.on their civil liberties, but at the same time, I think what we are

:03:46. > :03:51.facing at the moment is too serious not to be taking extreme measures.

:03:52. > :03:55.Does the Prime Minister have new evidence to suggest that a chemical

:03:56. > :04:03.and biological attack on France is a possibility? Well he wouldn't make

:04:04. > :04:07.this announcement if he didn't have the information. We have to

:04:08. > :04:13.understand that since last Friday, the Intelligence Services are now

:04:14. > :04:19.sharing information which was not the case before. I think we need to

:04:20. > :04:23.be very aware as to what is happening and certainly protect the

:04:24. > :04:26.population here. It's not just French people, it's anybody living

:04:27. > :04:30.in France or indeed Europe at this stage.

:04:31. > :04:36.You may be aware, Senator, that the Washington Post newspaper this

:04:37. > :04:45.morning is saying that one of those killed yesterday is Abdelhamid

:04:46. > :04:50.Abaaoud. They have that information from two senior European officials.

:04:51. > :04:58.When will you know if it is Abdelhamid Abaaoud? Well,

:04:59. > :05:05.unfortunately, two bodies have not been identified yet and I think the

:05:06. > :05:10.French authorities want to be extremely careful before giving the

:05:11. > :05:19.information and need to identify the last two bodies before they can give

:05:20. > :05:22.that information or confirm it. You said Intelligence Services are

:05:23. > :05:27.sharing information. What is your view of the security failures that

:05:28. > :05:31.alloyed the suicide bombers to kill 129 people when most were known

:05:32. > :05:37.radicals and France had been warned of an imminent attack?

:05:38. > :05:45.I think it's not proper to talk about failure. How would you

:05:46. > :05:53.describe it? Six attempts were foiled. The way these people are

:05:54. > :05:56.able to move, I mean, they after all came from Belgium and the

:05:57. > :06:00.Intelligence Services in France were working on the French territory. Now

:06:01. > :06:03.that is why I am saying that there is sharing of intelligence between

:06:04. > :06:08.countries which is making the difference. These people who came

:06:09. > :06:11.from Belgium, we know that they went to Syria, that is where they

:06:12. > :06:17.trained, and it's these movements now, at the European level, that we

:06:18. > :06:21.need to be able to follow. France since last January was asking for

:06:22. > :06:25.the sharing of this information and didn't get support and maybe

:06:26. > :06:30.unfortunately the events of last Friday will kick start new

:06:31. > :06:35.cooperation at European level. But aren't you alarmed that Jihad is

:06:36. > :06:41.were able to drive from Brussels to Paris before the attacks and then

:06:42. > :06:46.from Paris to Brussels after the attacks without anyone apprehending

:06:47. > :06:54.them? Yes, but there are many roads

:06:55. > :06:59.leading to Belgium and it's possible that they could not be detained at

:07:00. > :07:05.every corner... But what if Abdelhamid Abaaoud was stopped and

:07:06. > :07:12.let go? Things went very, very quick lid and they were in a state of

:07:13. > :07:18.shock and services were concentrating on trying to prevent

:07:19. > :07:27.if there were other attack about to take place in Paris itself. That's

:07:28. > :07:36.where the efforts were. We'll bear with you with your ear piece.

:07:37. > :07:40.OK. It sounds like you're almost making excuses for your Security

:07:41. > :07:46.Services? No. I think, you know, we are going

:07:47. > :07:51.through very hard times and instead of looking back to yes, there may be

:07:52. > :07:55.witnesses and we are making sure we are working towards resolving things

:07:56. > :08:02.and moving forwards, we started this interview with the threats of a

:08:03. > :08:06.chemical attack which is going far beyond what anything has happened

:08:07. > :08:09.before and what anybody has experienced, so I think we need to

:08:10. > :08:14.concentrate our efforts as to what we need to do. We need to protect

:08:15. > :08:19.the population, we need to find a resolution in the conflict in Syria.

:08:20. > :08:26.This is where after all these people are training, this is where they are

:08:27. > :08:30.recruiting among the French youth today and indeed beyond the French

:08:31. > :08:34.youth. We know that we have thousands of people who have gone

:08:35. > :08:40.through Syria from all the European countries, so we need to be on all

:08:41. > :08:46.fronts at the same time and indeed identify maybe witnesses and things

:08:47. > :08:49.that didn't go right and it's moving forward where we need to

:08:50. > :08:54.concentrate. Can you explain how extending the state of emergency for

:08:55. > :08:59.another three months would protect French citizens from potentially a

:09:00. > :09:05.chemical or biological attack? Well, first of all, it's giving

:09:06. > :09:10.Paris to the police, that they don't normally are, in order to be able to

:09:11. > :09:16.arrest people, to assign them to their homes, to be able to carry out

:09:17. > :09:19.raids without having to wait for days or sometimes weeks until they

:09:20. > :09:24.have the proper authorisations and so on. It's to move quickly and

:09:25. > :09:28.that's what we need to have in the next three months, to be able to

:09:29. > :09:34.dismantle the networks and we know that there are a small number of

:09:35. > :09:41.cells, small groups of people that are mobile and we need to be able to

:09:42. > :09:46.able to dismantle those. It's striking at those that are here and

:09:47. > :09:52.hoping that our European partners are dog the same, because these

:09:53. > :09:57.people, as you said earlier, are able to cross borders -- doing the

:09:58. > :10:00.same. They are crossing borders without being arrested and that is a

:10:01. > :10:07.problem. Thank you very much for talking to

:10:08. > :10:10.us this morning Senator Elaine Conway-Murray from the ruling

:10:11. > :10:19.Socialist Party, a former Foreign Affairs junior minister as well.

:10:20. > :10:22.All 129 people who were killed in Friday's shootings and bombings

:10:23. > :10:27.But how do people in Paris who were caught up in the attacks even begin

:10:28. > :10:33.In a moment we'll talk to a doctor who deals with trauma but first the

:10:34. > :10:36.husband of a victim called Helene has written a letter to her killers.

:10:37. > :10:39.It's been shared so far over ten million times.

:10:40. > :13:17.How do survivors and relatives of those killed try to adjust? Research

:13:18. > :13:22.says people exposed to such trauma can experience post-traumatic stress

:13:23. > :13:27.disorder. Let's talk to Dr Chris Brewin from University College

:13:28. > :13:35.London. How do experts help people who've experienced what we saw on

:13:36. > :13:39.Friday night in Paris? Good morning. We have heard from that very

:13:40. > :13:44.eloquent extract that people are already finding their own ways to

:13:45. > :13:49.cope with what's happened. I think professionals shouldn't rush in and

:13:50. > :13:53.assume that their help is wanted or even desirable at this early stage.

:13:54. > :13:57.There will be some people who want professionals to talk to, they are

:13:58. > :14:03.going to want very practical advice, knowledge about how they might react

:14:04. > :14:06.emotionally towards what's happened, whether there's anything they can do

:14:07. > :14:10.to help themselves, but the pa generate of the this stage will

:14:11. > :14:13.probably want to find their own way of getting over what's happened with

:14:14. > :14:17.their family and friends. In the long-term, this is when it's really

:14:18. > :14:22.important, there'll be a minority who don't we cover well from what's

:14:23. > :14:32.happened and they are going to need our help in the future. What might

:14:33. > :14:35.that involve, Dr Brewin? Well, it involves trauma focussed

:14:36. > :14:38.psychological help, so this is not just general counselling, it's not

:14:39. > :14:43.enough just to send someone to a counsellor, you have to send someone

:14:44. > :14:47.to a person who has been trained specifically to deal with

:14:48. > :14:49.post-traumatic reactions and involves confronting the reactions

:14:50. > :14:53.in a very structured involves confronting the reactions

:14:54. > :14:56.that enables the person to involves confronting the reactions

:14:57. > :15:00.Can you give involves confronting the reactions

:15:01. > :15:08.insight? Yes. So, for horrifics of images and thoughts

:15:09. > :15:11.that come into their minds of the traumatic scenes they have witnessed

:15:12. > :15:16.or of moments when they have feared they were going to die. Those

:15:17. > :15:20.moments and images are often so distressing that people do anything

:15:21. > :15:25.not to think about them. But if we don't think about them at

:15:26. > :15:29.all, then they can cause problems, so for those people who don't

:15:30. > :15:33.recover naturally, part of the treatment involves actually helping

:15:34. > :15:36.them and supporting them in confronting those very, very

:15:37. > :15:37.difficult moments and actually getting through them.

:15:38. > :15:48.Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Dr Chris

:15:49. > :15:54.Brewin. Some messages from you about that letter. Ben says, beautiful,

:15:55. > :16:00.absolutely beautiful and more than just the words. Many people can take

:16:01. > :16:05.from his example. Gordon says, a brilliant tribute and Joanne says,

:16:06. > :16:10.this young man and father is a saint living in this world of confusion.

:16:11. > :16:15.An inspiration to many. And Henry sends a message to say, I would give

:16:16. > :16:19.this man a medal for his bravery and a hug from all other decent, right

:16:20. > :16:23.minded people in the world you live by the instruction, love one another

:16:24. > :16:25.as I have loved you. Thank you for this.

:16:26. > :16:28.Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says she is prepared to

:16:29. > :16:31.listen to the case for extending air strikes against IS in Syria.

:16:32. > :16:37.We'll have the details and ask how significant her intervention is.

:16:38. > :16:40.Coming up - we'll be talking to a man who grew up with so-called

:16:41. > :16:43.Jihadi John - the British IS militant thought to have been killed

:16:44. > :16:48.We'll hear his unique insight into what caused Emwazi to become

:16:49. > :17:00.The French Prime Minister has warned this morning of the danger of

:17:01. > :17:05.a terrorist attack in France using 'chemical and biological' weapons.

:17:06. > :17:09.French MPs are debating extending the country's current state

:17:10. > :17:12.of emergency for a further three months.

:17:13. > :17:14.Police in Paris are trying to establish if

:17:15. > :17:19.the suspected ringleader of Friday's attacks was killed in a raid

:17:20. > :17:24.Abdelhamid Abaaoud was not among eight people arrested but

:17:25. > :17:28.at least two bodies are still to be identified.

:17:29. > :17:31.Police searching for missing 15-year-old Kayleigh

:17:32. > :17:37.Haywood have found a body in a field in Ibstock, in Leicestershire.

:17:38. > :17:40.Two men - aged 27 and 28 - are being questioned on suspicion

:17:41. > :17:47.They have been granted an extra 24 hours to question them.

:17:48. > :17:50.Scientists are warning that the world is on the cusp

:17:51. > :17:55.of a "post-antibiotic era" after finding bacteria resistant to

:17:56. > :17:57.drugs used when all other treatments have failed.

:17:58. > :18:00.They said the bacteria identified in China would spread and could

:18:01. > :18:16.More in just a moment. There are calls on better controls on the sale

:18:17. > :18:21.of acid at the number of people attacked by the substance has

:18:22. > :18:22.doubled. We will hear from a man who was attacked in a case of mistaken

:18:23. > :18:25.identity. Democratic Unionist leader

:18:26. > :18:28.Peter Robinson has announced that he'll step down as

:18:29. > :18:29.Northern Ireland's First Minister Mr Robinson made the widely-expected

:18:30. > :18:33.announcement in an article The results of a strike ballot

:18:34. > :18:39.of junior doctors in England are It's predicted that the vote, in a

:18:40. > :18:48.dispute over pay and working hours, Hugh has all the sport now, and some

:18:49. > :18:52.interesting comments from the chief Good morning - there's lots to

:18:53. > :18:57.talk about in sport today. We'll start with football

:18:58. > :19:01.and Richard Scudamore - the Premier League Chief Executive

:19:02. > :19:03.believes the time is right for a player at the top level to

:19:04. > :19:06.reveal their homosexuality. He says a gay player would

:19:07. > :19:09.be welcomed and there would We'll hear what he has to say

:19:10. > :19:14.in more detail after 10am but it would be a big test to see

:19:15. > :19:18.how far the game in this country has come since former Norwich striker

:19:19. > :19:20.Justin Fashanu revealed he was gay We have news on Russia's Anti-Doping

:19:21. > :19:25.Agency - they've been suspended It could have big rammifications

:19:26. > :19:29.for their participation In Rugby Union,

:19:30. > :19:34.the legend that is Richie McCaw has The New Zealand captain won two

:19:35. > :19:40.World Cups and was victorious in 131 He could be remembered

:19:41. > :19:45.as the greatest ever. Elsewhere,

:19:46. > :19:49.there's some news on Tiger Woods and next year's Ryder Cup and an

:19:50. > :19:54.impromptu haircut for Andy Murray! You have to see this one, coming up

:19:55. > :20:00.just after 10am. Thank you. Scientists say they're extemely

:20:01. > :20:02.worried by the discovery in China of bacteria that are highly

:20:03. > :20:07.resistant to antibiotics. Let's get more from the World Health

:20:08. > :20:17.Organisation's Dr Liz Taylor. The consequences are massive?

:20:18. > :20:25.Explained to the audience what has been discovered. What is reported in

:20:26. > :20:32.the Lancet this week is that Colston, a drug that we use as a

:20:33. > :20:36.treatment of last resort, when other and idiotic that failed to treat

:20:37. > :20:43.common infections, we're getting resistance. -- collistin. Not only

:20:44. > :20:46.resistance but it is a type of resistance that is likely to spread

:20:47. > :20:53.very quickly between different strains. So, the treatment of last

:20:54. > :20:56.resort, one of the few drugs left in the store cupboard, may very rapidly

:20:57. > :21:05.across the world become less effective. Which means what? Simple

:21:06. > :21:09.treatments that we have got used to, the revelations of 20th-century

:21:10. > :21:14.medicine, hip replacements, transplants, chemotherapy, even

:21:15. > :21:19.simple things like a Caesarean section, will become much more

:21:20. > :21:24.risky. Because the ad to be six that prevented infections, but it really

:21:25. > :21:29.when people's immune systems were compromised, will not work. Will

:21:30. > :21:34.those kind of operations have to stop? They will be more risky and

:21:35. > :21:39.people will have to make a harder choice. At the moment they are very

:21:40. > :21:42.safe. It is a big issue for developing countries when they don't

:21:43. > :21:46.have the money to pay for new, expensive drugs so across a world we

:21:47. > :21:51.have to take this threat very seriously. This story is important

:21:52. > :21:57.as it illustrates the importance of animal health. Although it is a

:21:58. > :22:04.global health threat to humans, we in the Health Committee -- community

:22:05. > :22:07.cannot deal with this on our own, we have to work with national

:22:08. > :22:14.governments in a collective effort to address this. About two thirds of

:22:15. > :22:21.Adam Beard exclusively are consumed by animals. Not just sick animals,

:22:22. > :22:29.which they need as much as humans, but as a growth promoter. -- and to

:22:30. > :22:39.be ticks. -- and to be tickeds. That needs to stop now? In the developing

:22:40. > :22:42.world people want cheap protein and meet but it is starting to be at the

:22:43. > :22:47.cost potentially a fume and health in the near future. So those in

:22:48. > :22:53.agriculture and farming, I wonder what the reaction might be? Well,

:22:54. > :22:57.we're working very closely with the FAO and the like and we have an

:22:58. > :23:03.action plan between these organisations to address this to

:23:04. > :23:07.start to ensure responsible use and good infection prevention and

:23:08. > :23:13.control across the human - animal spectrum. This is a major challenge.

:23:14. > :23:18.Thank you for talking to us, Dr Liz Taylor. We will have the results of

:23:19. > :23:22.the ballot of junior doctors in England, widely expected to back

:23:23. > :23:28.strike action in a row over contracts and play. We will talk to

:23:29. > :23:33.some of them after the result. The prospect of Jewish planes dropping

:23:34. > :23:38.bombs in Syria could be one step closer. Norman Smith is at

:23:39. > :23:43.Westminster. This is because of the intervention of Nicola Sturgeon of

:23:44. > :23:47.the SNP? It is because the working assumption amongst ministers was

:23:48. > :23:55.there was no chance of the SNP backing air strikes in Syria, their

:23:56. > :23:58.party conference last month overwhelmingly voted against any

:23:59. > :24:02.military intervention and talking to their MPs, they have been pretty

:24:03. > :24:07.clear that there is a UN resolution, they will not back it and even if

:24:08. > :24:12.there was a UN resolution they may not. Last night, Nicola Sturgeon

:24:13. > :24:17.seemed to adopt a much more conciliatory approach, saying, I am

:24:18. > :24:22.listening, I am not convinced but I am prepared to consider Mr

:24:23. > :24:28.Cameron's arguments and to listen to his arguments and the UN issue, she

:24:29. > :24:33.said she did not want to adopt a will rise to position. You just got

:24:34. > :24:40.the sense that she was edible. Have a listen... I am prepared to listen,

:24:41. > :24:45.given what has happened, it would be irresponsible not to do that but I

:24:46. > :24:48.think it is incumbent on the Prime Minister, if he is to bring a

:24:49. > :24:52.proposal for air strikes, but he makes that case and addresses that

:24:53. > :25:00.case and these key points, not just raised by the SNP but by the foreign

:25:01. > :25:03.affairs committee. What is interesting about her position is

:25:04. > :25:09.not just that she is sounding much more sympathetic to the government

:25:10. > :25:15.case but people around us say that she will decide how the SNP votes,

:25:16. > :25:20.she will determine their policy and whether they backed the government

:25:21. > :25:25.so, actually, her attitude is critical and from the government's

:25:26. > :25:29.perspective, this is a huge boost to their chances of getting a vote for

:25:30. > :25:36.action. What is a government saying in public and private? I am struck

:25:37. > :25:42.by the confidence, actually, that they think they can get this vote.

:25:43. > :25:47.It is striking, they take the view that Paris has changed everything,

:25:48. > :25:50.that people previously who would not consider military action are willing

:25:51. > :25:54.to look at it because of the nature of the atrocity and because of the

:25:55. > :25:58.view that Isis are entirely different to Iraq and Saddam

:25:59. > :26:02.Hussein, so much so that one very scenic government minister who

:26:03. > :26:09.cannot name because the quotes were off the record, yesterday he said

:26:10. > :26:16.bluntly, we are going to war. And he went on to argue that because the

:26:17. > :26:19.British planes have more accurate bombs, the so-called Brimstone

:26:20. > :26:25.bombs, but would result in fewer civilian casualties so he also told

:26:26. > :26:31.me that Syrians will be praying for the Brits to do the bombing. You get

:26:32. > :26:34.some sensitive government, they are of the view that they can win this

:26:35. > :26:38.and therefore, I would suspect a vote will be sooner rather than

:26:39. > :26:45.later. We're going to war. What about the Labour Party? They are the

:26:46. > :26:49.key players because we know that there is a clutch of Tory MPs who

:26:50. > :26:53.will not back Mr Cameron so he will need the support of opposition MPs

:26:54. > :26:59.so what Labour does matter is, and Jeremy Corbyn is instinctively

:27:00. > :27:03.opposed, may but a lot of Labour MPs are like Nicola Sturgeon, they are

:27:04. > :27:06.willing to listen to what the government says and they are

:27:07. > :27:11.pressing for a free vote on the issue so that MPs can vote whichever

:27:12. > :27:15.way they want. Last night, Ken Livingstone, who is chairing their

:27:16. > :27:21.defence review when he was asked by Emily Maitlis how he felt about

:27:22. > :27:25.Labour MPs like Emma Reynolds who wanted to vote for action, whether

:27:26. > :27:31.they should be a free vote, he dismissed that. Listen... Emma

:27:32. > :27:36.Reynolds told us they should be a free vote on Syria. Do you agree?

:27:37. > :27:41.Absolutely not, if you are talking about military action, the Labour

:27:42. > :27:47.Party has two have if you for or against, saying a free vote, I

:27:48. > :27:51.support her right, if she wants to vote against it, because I often

:27:52. > :27:55.did, and it is going to depend the end of the day on the package that

:27:56. > :27:59.Mr Cameron puts on the table. It will have to be more than air

:28:00. > :28:03.strikes, there will have to be a coherent and dramatic Scottish, not

:28:04. > :28:07.necessarily including the UN resolution, there will have to be a

:28:08. > :28:12.plan for after Isis being destroyed, what replaces them so we don't end

:28:13. > :28:17.up like an Iraq situation with chaos and he will have to address the

:28:18. > :28:20.legality of air strikes but if he can put together a package that

:28:21. > :28:23.addresses all of those questions, I think the way things are looking, he

:28:24. > :28:29.will get their vote in favour of action and we will be involved in

:28:30. > :28:33.bombing IS in Syria. Thank you very much, Norman Smith at West Mercia.

:28:34. > :28:35.-- at Westminster. There are calls

:28:36. > :28:37.for tighter laws to crackdown on the sale of acid as figures show

:28:38. > :28:40.the number of people being admitted to hospital after being attacked

:28:41. > :28:43.by corrosive substances has doubled Wayne Ingold had acid thrown in his

:28:44. > :28:47.face in a case of mistaken identity. One of his attackers was jailed

:28:48. > :28:50.for 5 years and the other sentenced Wayne tells us how close

:28:51. > :28:54.he came to being blinded. As you might expect some of

:28:55. > :28:57.the images in this film are graphic, The pain itself, I suppose,

:28:58. > :29:09.was like having lots of tiny knives The acid was so strong,

:29:10. > :29:15.it actually ate through one I was actually told by my surgeon

:29:16. > :29:21.that if I hadn't been wearing these This is where I used to live,

:29:22. > :29:30.on the right-hand side. On that day in August, walking

:29:31. > :29:38.down the communal walkway, Aaron Another lad was hiding there,

:29:39. > :29:46.Jake McCabe, he ran round with It looked like a sports drinking

:29:47. > :29:51.bottle, like a Lucozade type thing. And I thought, why are you

:29:52. > :29:54.throwing orange juice on my face? The smell of it took me back to my

:29:55. > :29:58.school days, in the chemistry lab. And the pain was unbelievable, and

:29:59. > :30:03.I'd turned up, put my right hand up to my face, and I turned to run back

:30:04. > :30:08.to my flat, and they kept throwing I ran into the ensuite and looked

:30:09. > :30:15.into the mirror, and my face had turned yellow, and it looked

:30:16. > :30:18.like it was melting candle wax. So I picked the phone up, dialled

:30:19. > :30:22.999 to get the police and ambulance I am panicking by this time,

:30:23. > :30:27.the pain was immense and I just didn't know what to do, whether or

:30:28. > :30:31.not to put water on my face or not. After about ten minutes,

:30:32. > :30:34.the police turned up, so I went outside, the police got out of

:30:35. > :30:37.the car, one of them was actually Then the paramedics turned up,

:30:38. > :30:42.and they immediately started to wash me down for about half an hour in

:30:43. > :30:46.freezing water to try to neutralise the acid, and they said to me if I

:30:47. > :30:50.had washed it off, and it was an alkali solution,

:30:51. > :30:53.it would have continued eating So I was just lucky

:30:54. > :31:14.I didn't do that. On the actual day of the attack,

:31:15. > :31:19.the attacker threw the acid into my face, and I put my hand up because

:31:20. > :31:24.of the pain, and to protect myself, and then the acid hit my hand, then

:31:25. > :31:27.all down my arm, and I turned to run, and it hit my shoulders as

:31:28. > :31:35.well, making its way down my back. On my right shoulder, the burn was

:31:36. > :31:40.so deep they had to cut away quite a bit of flesh, and they refilled it,

:31:41. > :31:45.so I was told by him, with cow fat. Then they took

:31:46. > :31:50.a large skin graft off my left leg, and obviously they operated,

:31:51. > :31:56.and they stapled the skin to my It affected

:31:57. > :32:03.my life quite badly within the first couple of months, because

:32:04. > :32:05.I was scared of repercussions. And, because of that,

:32:06. > :32:12.I couldn't go back to my home. A few years ago, it seemed to me

:32:13. > :32:15.there was a lot of gun crime about, there was knife crime,

:32:16. > :32:19.and it seems people are going into So I'm looking now, it is just

:32:20. > :32:39.amazing how many different types Wow, here we go, 73,500 results on

:32:40. > :32:48.here, and I have chosen two bottles. It is scary how easy it is and how

:32:49. > :32:55.cheap it is, that is in the basket. So

:32:56. > :32:59.until the government does something about this, more and more people are

:33:00. > :33:02.going to get attacked and maimed. There's a number

:33:03. > :33:09.of reasons why there is an increase One is the easy availability

:33:10. > :33:15.of acid, and two, acid has become a weapon of choice,

:33:16. > :33:20.because it causes severe physical It is a very visible form

:33:21. > :33:27.of an attack, so a survivor will actually face social

:33:28. > :33:32.stigma because of their appearance, and that, for some appalling reason,

:33:33. > :33:36.perpetrators find attractive as a I got a letter here, which I was

:33:37. > :33:43.given by the police yesterday, which was written by one of the guys

:33:44. > :33:47.who actually threw the acid into my face, and I'll read it to you, it

:33:48. > :33:50.says "Dear Mr Ingold, I am writing to say that I am sorry

:33:51. > :33:55.for what happened to you, and I had to do it as my life and my

:33:56. > :33:59.family's life had been threatened. I owed a lot of people a lot

:34:00. > :34:03.of money, so I was pressured I hope you can one day forgive me,

:34:04. > :34:09.and during my sentence I plan on working

:34:10. > :34:12.on myself to become a better...", Doesn't say what he is going

:34:13. > :34:16.to become a better... "I hope that one day you can forgive

:34:17. > :34:18.me. Well,

:34:19. > :34:21.there is a simple answer to that. After 14 months of calling me

:34:22. > :34:28.a liar, which his barristers did in court to me, I was a liar, I was not

:34:29. > :34:32.telling the truth, that it was him, I suppose one thing, he has actually

:34:33. > :34:35.admitted he has done it to me. So I suppose that is one good thing,

:34:36. > :34:51.that I know it was definitely him. If you look over the last ten years,

:34:52. > :34:55.the number of attacks have doubled. However,

:34:56. > :34:58.over the last five years there has That doesn't mean it is not an

:34:59. > :35:05.offence that we target, an offence that we actually look to prevent,

:35:06. > :35:08.because one of these attacks is one Actually preventing someone buying

:35:09. > :35:15.the materials used in these offences is impossible

:35:16. > :35:18.for us, the legislation isn't there So, powerless to prevent

:35:19. > :35:23.individual attacks, possibly. It is about gathering intelligence,

:35:24. > :35:26.about ensuring that we know as much information as possible about where

:35:27. > :35:29.these offences occur, which is why it is so important that people do

:35:30. > :35:32.report these offences to us. I can't forget them, because

:35:33. > :35:35.they have scarred me for life. Every time I get ready for bed,

:35:36. > :35:37.I have a shower, What could help, in terms

:35:38. > :35:48.of reducing the number of attacks in the UK, is the government

:35:49. > :35:51.controlling the sale of acid. At the moment,

:35:52. > :35:56.acid is far too easily available. There should be

:35:57. > :36:00.a tighter control over the sale of acid, which means introducing

:36:01. > :36:05.a licensing system, preventing cash sales of acid, which would help make

:36:06. > :36:08.potential perpetrators think twice When my family saw me, shock,

:36:09. > :36:22.and why, and why the hell have I And now we know, it was wrong place,

:36:23. > :36:30.wrong person, wrong time. and I believe they panicked,

:36:31. > :36:33.and just threw it, and ran. We still don't know what

:36:34. > :36:35.the real motive was. I don't think we ever

:36:36. > :36:53.will find out now. We asked for a Minister of The Home

:36:54. > :37:02.Office to take part in that film but they declined. They said:

:37:03. > :37:08.Since the events in Paris on Friday, we have heard a lot about the

:37:09. > :37:11.militants responsible, why were they radicalised and what can be

:37:12. > :37:13.militants responsible, why were they stop people wanting to commit

:37:14. > :37:17.militants responsible, why were they similar atrocities? One man with a

:37:18. > :37:25.view on that is Allan Hennessey who went to the same mosque as Mohammed

:37:26. > :37:30.Emwasi, known as Jihadi John, killed in a drone attack last week. He grew

:37:31. > :37:33.Emwasi, known as Jihadi John, killed up on the same council estate as

:37:34. > :37:39.Emwasi in London and you too believe that you were susceptible to

:37:40. > :37:48.potentially being radicalised, tell us why? So, I grew up on the same

:37:49. > :37:53.estate as Jihadi John. We went to the same mosque. Our fathers took us

:37:54. > :37:59.there. Our mothers shopped for fruit and veg on the same market and my

:38:00. > :38:08.brother and Emwasi went to if same school. I could have been

:38:09. > :38:13.susceptible to radicalisation because, sliek many other people on

:38:14. > :38:20.the estate, I spent much of my youth being disaffected. What were you

:38:21. > :38:27.frustrated, angry about? So, I'm now studying law at Cambridge but before

:38:28. > :38:33.that, I... Before I went to Cambridge, I only knew five, six

:38:34. > :38:38.white people and, on that estate, wherever you looked around, wherever

:38:39. > :38:44.there was poverty and wherever there was suffering, you always associated

:38:45. > :38:49.it with your own kind, with other brown people, other Iraqis, with

:38:50. > :38:52.other people where I'm from, other Middle Eastern people, other

:38:53. > :39:01.Muslims, and it's that sense of collective persecution.

:39:02. > :39:13.So you felt persecuted, you believe Emwasi felt persecuted, Yet you took

:39:14. > :39:22.a different path. I don't know whether he felt persecuted. The

:39:23. > :39:24.problem is, it's so difficult to carry out a

:39:25. > :39:28.problem is, it's so difficult to know. On my first day of law at

:39:29. > :39:32.Cambridge, they gave us an example of me inviting you to my house for

:39:33. > :39:36.dinner, you getting run over by a car, who has caused your death, if I

:39:37. > :39:43.didn't invite you there, you wouldn't have been run over. That

:39:44. > :39:46.simple example already forces us to interrogate questions of

:39:47. > :39:53.responsibility and culpability and fault. So when it comes to the

:39:54. > :39:58.radicalisation of young British Muslims, it's an equation already of

:39:59. > :40:04.too many variables, so it's very, very complex. And difficult to

:40:05. > :40:08.answer. But you, who grew up in similar circumstances to Mohammed

:40:09. > :40:13.Emwasi have a particular insight into those circumstances? I do. I

:40:14. > :40:18.think what captures radicalisation to a certain extent is a brilliant

:40:19. > :40:23.quote by Frederick Douglas and it's as relevant today as it was when he

:40:24. > :40:29.was campaigning for the abolition of slavery, he says "where justice is

:40:30. > :40:35.edied, ignorance prevails and where any one class is made to feel like

:40:36. > :40:39.society is an organised conspiracy to oppress, degrade and rob, neither

:40:40. > :40:45.persons nor property will be safe". OK, at this point I'm go dog say to

:40:46. > :40:47.you, there are thousands of people who may feel disaffected, thousands

:40:48. > :40:52.of people living in poverty, there are thousands of people who might

:40:53. > :40:58.feel persecuted, it's still a big leap from that to going to Syria and

:40:59. > :41:03.beheading fellow countrymen and women? Well, that is the problem,

:41:04. > :41:08.you see, with the British discourse on radicalisation, it's always easy

:41:09. > :41:12.to turn around and say, well, white working class boys in Middlesbrough

:41:13. > :41:19.aren't being radicalised, why are brown or black British Muslims being

:41:20. > :41:27.radicalised in Hull or Birmingham or whatever... Why is that an

:41:28. > :41:32.illegitimate comparison? As Frederick Douglas put it, it's about

:41:33. > :41:39.people eats feelings. There is a tendency to, in the narrative, to

:41:40. > :41:45.try and detach feelings from rationality, from feelings from

:41:46. > :41:48.people who want to have really tight intellectual arguments and they

:41:49. > :41:56.don't want to consider people's feelings. People feel persecuted.

:41:57. > :42:01.There is a great African proverb quash if you do not have the young

:42:02. > :42:09.men in your tribe, they'll banish down to feel the heat.

:42:10. > :42:14.So what do you suggest for stopping people feeling persecuted? There is

:42:15. > :42:18.an assumption that British Muslims are a homogeneous group and they are

:42:19. > :42:22.really not. There are around two million Muslims in this country, 56

:42:23. > :42:30.nationalities and 70 different languages. That's so much diversity.

:42:31. > :42:33.But what I should say is that British Muslims are amongst some of

:42:34. > :42:40.the most deprived groups in the country. Why is that do you think?

:42:41. > :42:47.Well, the statistics tell it all, 50% live in the most deprive areas,

:42:48. > :42:49.child poverty is rife, 42% of children live in overcrowded

:42:50. > :42:54.housing, 35% of children live... Aren't you doing the cause in effect

:42:55. > :43:00.that you were saying earlier is one of the hindrances here? Absolutely

:43:01. > :43:03.not. This is about what I was cautioning against is the

:43:04. > :43:06.comparative exercise between different classes in society. Here

:43:07. > :43:12.I'm looking at the Muslim population, 35% of children grow up

:43:13. > :43:17.with parents unemployed, 9% of Muslims are overly represented in

:43:18. > :43:21.our prison system, 9% make up the population but Muslims are only 3%

:43:22. > :43:25.of the general population. It's about feelings and, in a

:43:26. > :43:29.consultation paper to the Government, it was reported that 80%

:43:30. > :43:33.of Muslims felt they were the subject of Islamophobia and 66% felt

:43:34. > :43:39.they were discriminated against. It's really about people's feelings.

:43:40. > :43:43.This isn't about intellectual masturbation, it isn't about

:43:44. > :43:50.rational arguments because no-one can rationalise this. I spoke to

:43:51. > :43:58.Shami chat radio barty about it. From the human rights organisation,

:43:59. > :44:05.Liberty? Yes. We realise that it's about people's feelings -- Shami

:44:06. > :44:12.Chakrabati. There is a distinction to be drawn between religious and

:44:13. > :44:18.political Islam. Religious Islam and Islam as an idealogy, and

:44:19. > :44:21.disaffected, once you convert disaffection into radicalisation,

:44:22. > :44:25.you see the individual moving from religious Islam, trespassing on to

:44:26. > :44:30.the turf of political Islam. There are so many peaceful British Muslims

:44:31. > :44:38.around. My mum is one of them. There are so many more. Isis does not

:44:39. > :44:44.represent the true spirit of Islam. Don't get me wrong, like religion

:44:45. > :44:51.has proved over many, many, many centuries to be divisive and qui

:44:52. > :44:56.destructive. But in these very, very troubling and sensitive times where

:44:57. > :44:59.there has been a lot of knee-jerk racism towards British Muslims and

:45:00. > :45:04.where lots of people have been closing for us to close our borders

:45:05. > :45:13.to refugees, we need to tell people and the message needs to be put out

:45:14. > :45:17.there that the fights, the Isis does not represent British Muslims and it

:45:18. > :45:19.doesn't represent the refugees desperately trying to flee from Isis

:45:20. > :45:29.themselves. Thank you very much.

:45:30. > :45:36.We will have details of a new clinic that could change the lives of

:45:37. > :45:39.children -- women with a genetic mutation linked to certain cancers.

:45:40. > :45:50.Time for the weather night with Carol. It is getting chilly! We

:45:51. > :45:56.often have that conversation and it is because of this jet stream. It is

:45:57. > :46:03.fast-moving air in the atmosphere, by about five miles, it has been

:46:04. > :46:08.coming in from the west but we can note the change in direction,

:46:09. > :46:13.straight down from the north so dragging in Arctic air, hence the

:46:14. > :46:19.cold weather. Snow? For some of us, yes. You are good at this! Over the

:46:20. > :46:22.next few days with milder conditions, the cold air sweeps

:46:23. > :46:27.right across the British Isles and we will notice the difference. To

:46:28. > :46:32.give some idea of temperatures, yesterday, part of the UK had highs

:46:33. > :46:41.and 16 Celsius and by the time we get to the weekend, look at that.

:46:42. > :46:44.Freezing! And when you add on the wind-chill, it will feel closer to

:46:45. > :46:50.freezing or even below. Get the heating on, put it on tomorrow! I

:46:51. > :46:58.will, thank you! I will see you later! Today is the last day of the

:46:59. > :47:01.dry weather. We have a couple of weather fronts across Scotland and

:47:02. > :47:06.southern England, producing rain and showery outbreaks. Look at those

:47:07. > :47:13.isobars, opening up so it is breezy rather than windy Underwood has been

:47:14. > :47:17.a windy start to northern England. Some of the showers will merge to

:47:18. > :47:20.give longer spells, here it is coming across Wales and southern

:47:21. > :47:26.counties of England, drifting from the west to the east and in between,

:47:27. > :47:30.bright spells, sunshine and showers. Into the afternoon for Northern

:47:31. > :47:36.Ireland, this is the scenario, not a bad day at all. In a lot of dry

:47:37. > :47:39.weather and a few showers. The most prolific showers across northern

:47:40. > :47:43.Scotland but we will also see a lot in the West. Eastern Scotland seeing

:47:44. > :47:47.something drier and brighter and for Northern England, bright spells,

:47:48. > :47:54.sunshine and showers but further south, behind this band of rain,

:47:55. > :47:58.quite a lot of cloud, showers at times, not feeling particularly cold

:47:59. > :48:03.and as we go towards the south-west, more rain coming our way across the

:48:04. > :48:05.Isles of Scilly and into Cornwall, Devon and Somerset. Showers moving

:48:06. > :48:10.across the Bristol Channel into North Wales, which will see

:48:11. > :48:15.something drier and brighter and through the night, this weather

:48:16. > :48:19.front will take a swipe at Southern counties, introducing some rain

:48:20. > :48:20.across the Channel Islands, showers turning increasingly wintry across

:48:21. > :48:24.the north of Scotland turning increasingly wintry across

:48:25. > :48:29.showers across Northern Ireland and North of England.

:48:30. > :48:33.showers across Northern Ireland and south, taking showers with the

:48:34. > :48:38.tomorrow. The head of that, dry weather around, sunny spells around

:48:39. > :48:44.and a weather front for the south coast, but it will be mild. Behind

:48:45. > :48:51.that, culture and, again, increasing amounts of wintry showers. 6-10 in

:48:52. > :48:56.the South but 3-26 in the North. From Friday night into Saturday

:48:57. > :49:03.morning, we can see this chart, the wind picks up down the east coast,

:49:04. > :49:06.snow across the North and East of Scotland and heavy bursts in lower

:49:07. > :49:08.levels. We could wake up to snow in the southern goblins and the North

:49:09. > :49:10.Pennines and down the East the southern goblins and the North

:49:11. > :49:17.wintry mix. -- Southern uplands. Some snow to the north of London.

:49:18. > :49:24.This will be exacerbated by that wind so gusts to gale force along

:49:25. > :49:28.the wind so gusts to gale force along

:49:29. > :49:29.inland in areas adjacent to that. That leads into Saturday, you can

:49:30. > :49:36.see strong wind the match in That leads into Saturday, you can

:49:37. > :49:42.evidence, showers across England and Wales and

:49:43. > :49:42.evidence, showers across England and these areas, we are looking at a

:49:43. > :49:57.cold day. 3-7 but when you add on to these areas, we are looking at a

:49:58. > :49:57.like -3, so quite a change. Thank the wind-chill, it will feel more

:49:58. > :49:59.like -3, so quite a change. Thank you. Good morning.

:50:00. > :50:01.Good morning, it's Thursday, it's 10am.

:50:02. > :50:05.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.

:50:06. > :50:09.Junior doctors are voted to take strike action over pay and working

:50:10. > :50:21.hours. We can go straight to YouTube him who was at the DMA. -- Hugh Pym.

:50:22. > :50:27.We had just got this result and 98%, a very overwhelming majority,

:50:28. > :50:33.have voted in favour of strike action amongst junior doctors,

:50:34. > :50:38.turnout was 76%. An overwhelming majority voting to take strike

:50:39. > :50:45.action in this row over junior doctors and contract reforms. Three

:50:46. > :50:48.dates have been set, the 71st, for 24 hours of a walk-out by junior

:50:49. > :50:53.doctors in England affecting nonemergency care and on the eighth

:50:54. > :50:57.and the 16th of December, daylong walk-outs affecting all forms of

:50:58. > :51:00.care, and curling emergencies and that'll be the first time doctors of

:51:01. > :51:05.what died on that scale affecting all care, in the history of the NHS,

:51:06. > :51:08.although they make clear that consultants would be covering for

:51:09. > :51:15.them. We have had reaction, Doctor Mark Porter from the BMA council

:51:16. > :51:18.says the regrets the inevitable disruption but is the government's

:51:19. > :51:23.insistence on imposing a contract that is unsafe for patients and

:51:24. > :51:30.doctors know this has brought us to this point. There has already been

:51:31. > :51:35.condemnation by employers. Thank you very much. We will bring your

:51:36. > :51:36.reaction from junior doctors who took part in this vote in the next

:51:37. > :51:39.few minutes. Also today... As the French Prime Minister warns

:51:40. > :51:42.of the risk of attack from chemical or bacterial weapons,

:51:43. > :51:55.one French senator tells us Of course, we need to have a balance

:51:56. > :52:01.as to the measures undertaken that will not impede on civil liberties

:52:02. > :52:08.but at the same time, I think what we are facing at the moment is much

:52:09. > :52:14.too serious not to take measures. I will be reporting live from Paris,

:52:15. > :52:17.the latest is that investigators are still trying to identify the bodies

:52:18. > :52:23.of the terror suspects killed in yesterday's police raid. And around

:52:24. > :52:24.Brussels, there have been 60 police raids this morning in connection

:52:25. > :52:30.with the attacks here. We'll hear

:52:31. > :52:39.from one man who was targeted He had acid thrown in his face. Why

:52:40. > :52:44.have I been targeted? I was the wrong person at the wrong time. I

:52:45. > :52:46.believe that they panicked and just through the acid and ran.

:52:47. > :52:49.If you want to watch a longer version of that story you

:52:50. > :53:00.can find it on our programme page - bbc.co.uk/Victoria.

:53:01. > :53:06.Good morning. The menus. We have heard that junior doctors have voted

:53:07. > :53:13.overwhelmingly in favour of strike action. The dispute is over pay and

:53:14. > :53:18.working hours. Their union, the BMA, has called for talks with the Health

:53:19. > :53:24.Secretary. The French by minister has warned that could be a chemical

:53:25. > :53:29.or bacterial protect by is the, saying nothing could be ruled out.

:53:30. > :53:34.He was opening a debate in Parliament on whether to extend a

:53:35. > :53:37.state of emergency in France. This is a new war that transcends

:53:38. > :53:45.borders, managed from a distance and a network. Isis, Michael Crider, in

:53:46. > :53:50.documents, recruits, trains, and its members, conveys its message and

:53:51. > :54:03.organisers. With one ultimate aim - to create and spread chaos. In

:54:04. > :54:05.Paris, forensic experts are trying to determine whether a body

:54:06. > :54:07.recovered in a police raid yesterday is that of the suspected ringleader

:54:08. > :54:09.of Friday's attacks. Abdelhamid Abaaoud was not among eight people

:54:10. > :54:20.arrested following the assault on a building in the north of the city.

:54:21. > :54:22.Police searching for missing 15-year-old Kayleigh Haywood have

:54:23. > :54:24.found a body in a field in Ibstock, in Leicestershire. Police have been

:54:25. > :54:27.granted an extra 24 hours to question two men - aged 27 and 28 -

:54:28. > :54:30.who were arrested on suspicion of murder. Phil Mackie is in Ibstock.

:54:31. > :54:37.This is a Forest Park where the phone was fined on Tuesday, it has

:54:38. > :54:42.been cordoned off. You can see police cars down this line, there

:54:43. > :54:46.was hardly one lane, where you will not see police officer standing

:54:47. > :54:53.guard. About one mile down the road, specialist teams are searching a

:54:54. > :54:57.lake in the search for evidence. Caley went missing on Friday, she

:54:58. > :55:02.was not seen alive since Friday, even after she was dropped. When you

:55:03. > :55:05.buy yesterday that the police feared the worst and the family were told

:55:06. > :55:10.it was a longer a missing person investigation but a murder

:55:11. > :55:13.investigation. The family said that the hearts were breaking and within

:55:14. > :55:19.the last hour, Leicestershire police said that two men who were arrested

:55:20. > :55:23.in the early hours of Monday will continue to be questioned for

:55:24. > :55:27.another 24 hours after magistrates extended the time to question them.

:55:28. > :55:30.They were originally arrested on suspicion of kidnap and were

:55:31. > :55:35.rearrested on suspicion of murder and that means by around lunchtime,

:55:36. > :55:46.police must charge or release them. Thank you very much. Phil Mackie

:55:47. > :55:48.reporting live. Scientists have found bacteria resistant to the

:55:49. > :55:50.antibiotic used when all other treatments have failed. Experts say

:55:51. > :55:53.the discovery in China means the world could be on the cusp of a

:55:54. > :55:58.'post-antibiotic era' where some infections are untreatable. More

:55:59. > :56:03.people than ever are being attacked by acid. The number of people being

:56:04. > :56:14.admitted to hospital has doubled in one decade. It has led to calls for

:56:15. > :56:16.better controls on the sale of acid. Democratic unionist leader Peter

:56:17. > :56:18.Robinson has announced that he'll step down as Northern Ireland's

:56:19. > :56:20.First Minister and retire from political life. Mr Robinson made the

:56:21. > :56:25.widely-expected announcement in an article in the Belfast Telegraph.

:56:26. > :56:37.Those are the main news stories and we can have the sport now... Good

:56:38. > :56:40.morning. The Chief Executive of the Premier League says he believes gay

:56:41. > :56:42.footballers would be 'treated with respect' if they choose to publicly

:56:43. > :56:44.reveal their sexuality. Speaking to BBC Newsnight, Richard Scudamore

:56:45. > :56:46.believes the environment would be entirely suitable for them to come

:56:47. > :56:48.out. There have been no openly gay male footballers in England since

:56:49. > :56:53.former Norwich striker Justin Fashanu 25 years ago. I think the

:56:54. > :56:56.environment would be entirely suitable for someone to come out, if

:56:57. > :57:03.that is the right phrase, and I think it would be welcomed and there

:57:04. > :57:23.would be tolerance to it and I think the time would be right. Some news

:57:24. > :57:26.just in... Ian Bell has been left out of the England Test squad has

:57:27. > :57:29.been announced for the tour of South Africa. Batsmen Gary Ballance and

:57:30. > :57:31.Nick Compton return to the squad while pace bowler Mark Footitt gets

:57:32. > :57:33.a first call-up. Adil Rashid has been left out, with Samit Patel

:57:34. > :57:36.taking his place as back-up spinner. There's no place for Liam Plunkett.

:57:37. > :57:38.Rugby Union now and Australian Eddie Jones is close to becoming England's

:57:39. > :57:41.first overseas Head Coach. Jones has held talks with RFU Chief Executive

:57:42. > :57:43.Ian Ritchie. The 55-year old is understood to be keen on the job,

:57:44. > :57:46.but needs to secure his release as coach of South African side the

:57:47. > :57:50.Stormers. Well, as England close in on a new Head Coach one of the

:57:51. > :57:52.greats of the game has called it a day. Following a glittering career,

:57:53. > :57:54.New Zealand captain Richie McCaw has announced his retirement. The

:57:55. > :57:57.three-time World Player of the Year played a world-record 148 Tests, and

:57:58. > :58:03.led the All Blacks to two World Cup final victories, including last

:58:04. > :58:08.month's win against Australia. I have done everything I wanted to do,

:58:09. > :58:13.I had a hell of a time and I'm excited about what is next but there

:58:14. > :58:18.no doubt that the boys going out there, it will probably hit home.

:58:19. > :58:20.Russia's Anti-Doping Agency has been suspended by the World Anti-Doping

:58:21. > :58:23.Agency. The move which was announced after a meeting of the Wada board in

:58:24. > :58:25.Colorado was widely expected after an independent report accused

:58:26. > :58:26.Russian athletics of "state sponsored doping". The IAAF have

:58:27. > :58:36.already suspended Russia from international competition. The

:58:37. > :58:42.compliance system we have, as you have heard, involved as talking to

:58:43. > :58:46.organisations before we could declare them noncompliant and the

:58:47. > :58:50.evidence we got did not help us in any way. It was quite clear they are

:58:51. > :58:56.not compliant and they have been declared so today. We now start the

:58:57. > :59:01.work with their assistance and, above all, their assistants because

:59:02. > :59:05.the ball is firmly in Russia's court and they have to become compliant

:59:06. > :59:12.and clearly we want to help them to do that. Andy Murray needs to beat

:59:13. > :59:14.Stan Wawrinka at the ATP World Tour Finals tomorrow if he's to reach the

:59:15. > :59:16.semi finals. That's after a disappointing defeat in his group

:59:17. > :59:18.game to Rafael Nadal. Murray didn't look anywhere near his best against

:59:19. > :59:21.the World number five, losing in straight sets - 6-4, 6-1. Nadal is

:59:22. > :59:29.through to the last four after Stan Wawrinka beat David Ferrer in the

:59:30. > :59:31.evening match at the O2 Arena. So, disappointment for Murray yesterday,

:59:32. > :59:34.despite his best efforts during the match to make sure he was in the

:59:35. > :59:36.best possible condition. Here's the British number one deciding to give

:59:37. > :59:39.himself a bit of a haircut - apparently he had a few hairs

:59:40. > :59:46.getting in his eye that he wanted to get rid of. You need a short back

:59:47. > :59:49.and sides! And that's the sport - I'll be back with the headlines at

:59:50. > :59:56.around half past. Thank you very much. Good morning and we can talk

:59:57. > :59:59.about the news that junior doctors have ordered of 11 we to go on

:00:00. > :00:06.strike on the 1st of December in a dispute over pay and working hours.

:00:07. > :00:11.They are angry about new contracts. It would see them losing overtime

:00:12. > :00:14.payments for evenings and weekends. We can talk to Dr Pippa Malmgren, a

:00:15. > :00:23.junior doctor who abstained from the vote. And Dr Janis Burns. I'm sorry,

:00:24. > :00:30.that is my fault, and you voted for strike action? Why? The reason I

:00:31. > :00:34.voted for strike action is that I do not feel we are being listened to by

:00:35. > :00:39.the Department of Health and Jeremy Hunt and we have tried using the

:00:40. > :00:44.appropriate channels and engaging with him but with this new

:00:45. > :00:49.contract, it still stands, and... Can you explain watching, what is

:00:50. > :00:50.wrong with that? On the face of it, and 11% pay rise sounds absolutely

:00:51. > :01:04.amazing! It is and if I was being given that,

:01:05. > :01:09.I would bite Jeremy Hunt's hand off. The vast majority of doctors have

:01:10. > :01:15.always received a 40 or 50% banding on top of my pay so if I have an 11%

:01:16. > :01:19.increase, what is happening to the 29 or the 39% that's made up the

:01:20. > :01:24.rest of my pay - there are going to be... So are you saying effectively

:01:25. > :01:29.it's a big pay cut? Not necessarily a massive one but when you use the

:01:30. > :01:32.national NHS employers pay calculator there is a concept of pay

:01:33. > :01:36.protection - I require pay protection. The very fact that I

:01:37. > :01:41.require pay protection tells you I will be having a pay cut, they have

:01:42. > :01:46.to pay me a top-up sum to maintain my salary at the current level. So

:01:47. > :01:52.despite the headline of it being an 11% pay rise, it's actually an 11%

:01:53. > :01:56.pay increase on basic pay but I'll need pay protection to maintain my

:01:57. > :02:00.current level of salary which that, you know, it doesn't take a genius

:02:01. > :02:02.to realise that's effectively a pay cut being dressed up as a pay rise

:02:03. > :02:08.which is wrong. Right. What has all that got to do

:02:09. > :02:14.with patient safety which you and colleagues are saying the new

:02:15. > :02:18.contracts will potentially risk patient safety which is potentially

:02:19. > :02:25.worrying a lot of people? It's difficult to explain, but the way

:02:26. > :02:30.it's tied in is, we as doctors, work long hours, it's a vocation, so if

:02:31. > :02:34.I'm supposed to be finishing at 5 o'clock at night and my patient gets

:02:35. > :02:40.sick, I will not leave. Equally, if I have a patient who it's decided at

:02:41. > :02:44.5 o'clock needs to be discharged, I will stay late and do the discharge

:02:45. > :02:48.summary. I don't mind, however it means we end up working much longer

:02:49. > :02:53.hours than it is on paper. The current system allows for that. Our

:02:54. > :02:59.hours are averaged over a period of a rota. Now, if what happens that we

:03:00. > :03:03.happen to be working such long hours over a prolonged time, there are

:03:04. > :03:07.financial disincentives for our em-Moyesers, they have to pay us

:03:08. > :03:15.extra money. Overtime? Effectively, yes. So the new contract they are

:03:16. > :03:18.proposing that will remove the financial disincentives, the

:03:19. > :03:22.National Health Service and the Government only seems to understand

:03:23. > :03:24.money so if you take away the financial disincentives, there is

:03:25. > :03:29.absolutely no reason to make sure the hours we work are actually

:03:30. > :03:34.reflecked on our rotas. In that sense, we will be left open to

:03:35. > :03:37.exploitation working much longer hours and... But hang on a minute,

:03:38. > :03:40.in terms of patient safety though, you are already working the extra

:03:41. > :03:46.hours but you are saying you are getting overtime so how is that not

:03:47. > :03:49.affecting risking patient safety? I wouldn't say we get overtime, I've

:03:50. > :03:53.never received the additional payment because when the process has

:03:54. > :03:56.gone through, there's been problems with it so I've never actually

:03:57. > :04:01.received the overtime payment but the threat of the Trust having to

:04:02. > :04:06.pay us extra money means they do something about it with the proposed

:04:07. > :04:10.system though they'll get educational supervisors involved,

:04:11. > :04:13.clinicians, doctors, they are going to subsequently be involved in human

:04:14. > :04:17.resource management. They are not the people that should be doing that

:04:18. > :04:23.job. There is no reason to stop us working the much longer hours that

:04:24. > :04:31.we did in the past. In terms of patient safety then, a strike on

:04:32. > :04:35.December 1st but the strikes on the 8th and 16th will be all areas,

:04:36. > :04:41.including accident and emergency. That is going to risk patient

:04:42. > :04:45.safety? Absolutely and the BMA have announced the dates far in advanced

:04:46. > :04:48.which is required by law so they have allowed Trusts to make plans

:04:49. > :04:52.for this in advance. We absolutely to not want anybody to suffer as a

:04:53. > :04:59.result of this. But they might do? They might do. So how do you feel

:05:00. > :05:03.about that? This result that's came out today is absolutely not a

:05:04. > :05:05.victory. But you are acknowledging that people's safety might be at

:05:06. > :05:10.risk because of the strike action. They might be. So what I'm hoping

:05:11. > :05:15.from now on, moving forward, is that the Department of Health, Jeremy

:05:16. > :05:19.Hunt, NHS employers, will see the strength of feeling, they will start

:05:20. > :05:23.to listen. 98% of junior doctors are prepared to take part in a strike

:05:24. > :05:27.action. That in itself has to tell you something is very, very wrong.

:05:28. > :05:33.We are a caring profession, we are not in the business of harming

:05:34. > :05:36.patients. The fact that we are 98% of those prepared to take part in

:05:37. > :05:40.industrial action, strike action, not just industrial action but

:05:41. > :05:44.strike action, has to tell you the strength of feeling and how gravely

:05:45. > :05:49.we feel. But you are at risk of damaging your reputation? Of being a

:05:50. > :05:53.caring profession? We are. So the fact we are prepared to take this

:05:54. > :05:58.action has got to send a very clear message to the Department of Health

:05:59. > :06:06.that this is wrong, there's something seriously wrong with this

:06:07. > :06:10.contract. Dr Millington. 98% on a turnout of 76%, you abstained, tell

:06:11. > :06:15.us why? Well, I felt it was an objectionable

:06:16. > :06:20.choice between voting yes and no when either way seems to affect

:06:21. > :06:23.patient safety. Voting for the strike, we don't know what the

:06:24. > :06:26.effect will be, there's never been strike action on this scale,

:06:27. > :06:30.unprecedented in the entire history of the NHS so we don't know what the

:06:31. > :06:34.ever elect will be. At the very least, it will be inconvenient to a

:06:35. > :06:38.lot of the patients and, as you have discussed here, it might put people

:06:39. > :06:41.at risk of harm. I'm sure if anything comes out of this when

:06:42. > :06:44.patients have been harmed the Secretary of State will use it

:06:45. > :06:47.against us to say that we are uncaring and unprofessional and this

:06:48. > :06:52.shouldn't have gone ahead. That is one thing to consider. But also I

:06:53. > :06:56.think I couldn't vote no because it's such a great swathe of people

:06:57. > :07:00.who are so angry about the changes in the contracts and want to see

:07:01. > :07:04.things changed that there's a very real risk of an Exodus of junior

:07:05. > :07:10.doctors from this country. That is the last thing the Government needs

:07:11. > :07:14.if it wants a seven-day NHS. Matt on Facebook says, I can't make

:07:15. > :07:20.my mind up if they are just a bunch of what I thinkers or if they have a

:07:21. > :07:23.genuine cause of grievance. Emma says, I whole heartedly support the

:07:24. > :07:28.doctors' strike, they have been overwork and taken for granted for

:07:29. > :07:32.too long. Tweet from Michael, fully support the doctors in their action,

:07:33. > :07:36.Jeremy Hunt's misled Parliament and the public with data consistently.

:07:37. > :07:42.Scott says the patients depend on a safe and fair contract. Jeremy Hunt

:07:43. > :07:46.could avoid strike action. You are clearly saying the ball is very much

:07:47. > :07:51.back in his court? Absolutely. Is that not blackmail? I don't think

:07:52. > :07:55.so. Putting this into context if we don't negotiate they are going to

:07:56. > :08:01.impose the contract anyway, that's a form of blackmail as well isn't it,

:08:02. > :08:06.you know. As I say, we are a caring profession. Every single day, you

:08:07. > :08:11.know, as soon as I became a doctor and as soon as Pip became a doctor,

:08:12. > :08:14.we signed up to being regulated by the General Medical Council and we

:08:15. > :08:19.have duties as a doctor. The most important is to make the care of

:08:20. > :08:23.patients our first concern. Overwell Mickth Mingly, that is what I do

:08:24. > :08:30.every single day when I go to work. Even when I'm not at work, one of

:08:31. > :08:33.the other ones I'm giving weight to is I want to promote the health of

:08:34. > :08:37.the patients in the public and on this occasion if this contract goes

:08:38. > :08:41.through, as a doctor, I'm not going to be in a position to make sure I

:08:42. > :08:45.can adhere to protecting and promoting the safety of patients and

:08:46. > :08:47.the public. So on this occasion I'm giving that more weight. Thank you

:08:48. > :08:58.both very much. This lunch time, our Health

:08:59. > :09:00.Correspondent will be with us to answer your questions on the

:09:01. > :09:13.dispute. You can get if touch: This news just coming in. Detectives

:09:14. > :09:18.investigating the fatal shooting of the policewoman even Fletcher

:09:19. > :09:22.outside the Libyan Embassy in London back in 1984 have arrested a man on

:09:23. > :09:25.suspicion of murder. The suspect, we are told, is in his 50s, detained

:09:26. > :09:30.this morning in south-east England in a move that the police have

:09:31. > :09:34.described as significant. The man is also suspected of money laundering

:09:35. > :09:38.offences, as are two other people who were also arrested today. A

:09:39. > :09:42.woman in her 40s and another man in his 30s.

:09:43. > :09:45.All three are Libyan. Scotland Yard said the three

:09:46. > :09:50.suspects are in custody and searches are under way across the country.

:09:51. > :09:55.The police are also offering a reward of up to ?50,000 about the

:09:56. > :10:01.information of the killing as part of what the Met was say was their

:10:02. > :10:05.biggest Facebook campaign ever. Back to France. The Prime Minister

:10:06. > :10:10.of France has this morning warned that terrorists such as self-styled

:10:11. > :10:13.Islamic state militants could mount attacks using chemical and

:10:14. > :10:18.biological weapons, following Friday's terror attacks in the

:10:19. > :10:22.capital. He spoke during a debate on expanding France's state of

:10:23. > :10:35.emergency to three months. He called for Europe to adopt measures on

:10:36. > :10:43.sharing information on passengers on a way to -- in and out of the

:10:44. > :10:48.country. This is what we have in mind. There is the risk from

:10:49. > :10:52.chemical or biological weapons. This is a new war that transcends

:10:53. > :11:00.borders, a war managed from a distance and on network. Isis, like

:11:01. > :11:04.Al-Qaeda, indoctrine ates, recruits, trains, connects its members,

:11:05. > :11:08.conveys its message and organises with one ultimate aim in mind, to

:11:09. > :11:13.create and spread chaos. Let us go live to Paris where Ben

:11:14. > :11:16.brown is. I wonder what the reaction there is to what the Prime Minister

:11:17. > :11:23.said this morning, Ben? Yes. I think people are already on

:11:24. > :11:26.edge here after Friday night, they'll be even more nervous now

:11:27. > :11:30.after the Prime Minister talked about the possibility of IS

:11:31. > :11:35.launching chemical and biological attacks, as you heard there. We have

:11:36. > :11:40.just heard that a decree was passed by the Ministry of Health the day

:11:41. > :11:46.after the attacks on Friday, so in other words on Saturday, allowing

:11:47. > :11:54.emergency services here in France to stock and buy chemical antidotes to

:11:55. > :11:59.chemical weapons, atropine sulphate stocks, an antidote to a chemical

:12:00. > :12:02.gas attack so it's obviously something being taken really

:12:03. > :12:04.seriously by the authorities here, but very alarming that warning from

:12:05. > :12:08.the French Prime Minister. Let's talk now to one of the people who

:12:09. > :12:13.was first on the scene of the attacks on Friday night and who

:12:14. > :12:20.helped people cope with the psychological trauma of what

:12:21. > :12:23.happened, Dr Didier, the national coordinator for psychological

:12:24. > :12:30.support in disaster situations in France, tell us what kind of help

:12:31. > :12:32.you were able to offer to people who were obviously very traumatised,

:12:33. > :12:37.searching for their relative Is after the attack or people who had

:12:38. > :12:46.been caught up in the attacks? Yes, we first helped the families who

:12:47. > :12:52.went to the hospitals where the wounded people were hospitalised in

:12:53. > :12:56.acute care and surgeries. The principal hospitals in Paris, we

:12:57. > :13:04.helped all the families who were very anxious. At the same time,

:13:05. > :13:10.first persons who were in bat clan in the restaurants were transferred

:13:11. > :13:16.also in emergency places and hospitals and also in the Town Hall

:13:17. > :13:28.who were open in special events and we began to take care of all these

:13:29. > :13:37.people who presented traumatic stress symptoms, very serious

:13:38. > :13:46.symptoms. We also opened up a call line on our centre, the French

:13:47. > :13:52.service for medical help, to offer all the possibility of emergency

:13:53. > :13:57.consultations to all the people who felt very traumatised. I suppose

:13:58. > :14:02.some of the people involved who escaped the attacks, but now have to

:14:03. > :14:05.learn to live with what happens, they'll be traumatised for a long

:14:06. > :14:15.time, perhaps for the rest of their lives? The purpose of our actions is

:14:16. > :14:22.to avoid this time tidesation. If we can intensively follow them, see

:14:23. > :14:34.them and, we hope in a few weeks or a little more, to avoid this signs

:14:35. > :14:40.to remain chronic. We absolutely want to ahave had that. Desperately

:14:41. > :14:45.difficult work for you -- to avoid that. Telling people their loved

:14:46. > :14:50.ones are dead? Of course. How do you cope? How do you get through the day

:14:51. > :14:53.when you are doing that, when you are working, you know, and helping

:14:54. > :14:58.people to find out that sometimes their loved ones have been killd?

:14:59. > :15:04.people to find out that sometimes Yes, it's one of the very difficult

:15:05. > :15:12.moments of our work. We began that on Saturday and on the military

:15:13. > :15:18.centre where we had the first bodies identified and we had to announce to

:15:19. > :15:29.the families. This work is of course very, very difficult. We have many

:15:30. > :15:35.teams who're strong enough to face this situation and we call to many

:15:36. > :15:44.teams from origins of France to help us because it's important to change

:15:45. > :15:51.the teams frequently so that they can support this work.

:15:52. > :15:57.Thank you so much for talking to us and you say that you are strong but

:15:58. > :16:02.it must be a globally difficult work. Any people in France will

:16:03. > :16:06.salute the work that you are doing, on Friday night and the days

:16:07. > :16:09.afterwards. Desperately difficult times for the medical teams

:16:10. > :16:12.afterwards. Desperately difficult and the whole city is still trying

:16:13. > :16:15.to come to terms with what happened a few days ago. Back to you. Thank

:16:16. > :16:16.you very much. School trips to France are cancelled

:16:17. > :16:20.because of security advice We'll speak to a teacher

:16:21. > :16:25.who won't now be taking kids We'll have details of a new research

:16:26. > :16:28.clinic which could revolutionise the lives of women with a genetic

:16:29. > :16:36.mutation linked to certain cancers. Junior doctors have voted

:16:37. > :16:41.overwhelmingly to go on strike in a The result in favour was 98%

:16:42. > :16:55.on a 76% turnout. We are expecting the Health

:16:56. > :17:03.Secretary's be sponsored in the next hour. Detectives investigating the

:17:04. > :17:07.shooting of Yvonne Fletcher outside the Libyan embassy in 1994 have

:17:08. > :17:13.arrested a man on conspiracy to murder. We can get more from our

:17:14. > :17:17.correspondent. Dominic, you have been in a briefing? This is a

:17:18. > :17:22.significance development here in Scotland Yard. The head of

:17:23. > :17:29.counterterrorism said that this morning a man in his 50s had been

:17:30. > :17:34.arrested at an address in south-east England on suspicion of conspiracy

:17:35. > :17:37.to murder Yvonne Fletcher in 1984 and a further charge of

:17:38. > :17:41.money-laundering and the said a woman in her 40s and a man in his

:17:42. > :17:45.30s but also been arrested at addresses on suspicion of

:17:46. > :17:49.money-laundering. This is a potential breakthrough for Scotland

:17:50. > :17:57.Yard and they said they had never lost the hope of bringing this case

:17:58. > :18:00.to some sort of conclusion and to achieve justice for Yvonne Fletcher

:18:01. > :18:06.at her family after the shooting in 1984. There was a big illustration

:18:07. > :18:09.outside the Libyan embassy and Yvonne Fletcher was one of the

:18:10. > :18:14.officers involved in crowd control and shots rang out from the embassy

:18:15. > :18:19.and she fell the fatal injuries and ten other Libyans who were opponents

:18:20. > :18:24.of Colonel Gaddafi were also injured and alongside this arrest today,

:18:25. > :18:28.Scotland Yard has launched what they describe as an unprecedented global

:18:29. > :18:31.appeal on social media for information and the word about of

:18:32. > :18:35.anybody who was at the embassy or who might have known about any

:18:36. > :18:39.conspiracy to murder and critically, they are appealing to students who

:18:40. > :18:42.were at the demonstration at the time who might have been supporters

:18:43. > :18:47.of Colonel Gaddafi but because of the transition and the time and

:18:48. > :18:50.change allegiances, might be prepared to finally tell the police

:18:51. > :18:55.about what the know about what happened. The man arrested is being

:18:56. > :19:01.held in police custody somewhere in London, we believe. We await to see

:19:02. > :19:03.what happens. Dominic, thank you very much indeed.

:19:04. > :19:06.The French Prime Minister has warned that Islamist extremists

:19:07. > :19:07.could launch attacks using chemical or biological weapons.

:19:08. > :19:10.Manuel Valls was speaking before French MPs decide

:19:11. > :19:17.In Paris, forensic experts are still trying to determine whether bodies

:19:18. > :19:21.recovered in a police raid yesterday include that of the suspected

:19:22. > :19:32.The fate of Abdelhamid Abaaoud is still in doubt.

:19:33. > :19:35.But it's thought a woman who blew herself up could be his cousin.

:19:36. > :19:37.Police searching for missing 15-year-old

:19:38. > :19:40.Kayleigh Haywood have been given an extra 24 hours to question two men

:19:41. > :19:43.Leicestershire police have found a body.

:19:44. > :19:45.Scientists have found a bug that's resistant to

:19:46. > :19:49.the antibiotic used by doctors when all other treatments have failed.

:19:50. > :19:54.Experts say the discovery in China means the world could be

:19:55. > :19:59.on the cusp of a 'post-antibiotic era' of untreatable infections.

:20:00. > :20:01.Democratic Unionist leader Peter Robinson has announced that

:20:02. > :20:03.he'll step down as Northern Ireland's First Minister

:20:04. > :20:13.The leader of the DUP had a heart attack in May but denies he is

:20:14. > :20:19.leaving on health grounds. More people than ever are

:20:20. > :20:21.being attacked with acid. The number

:20:22. > :20:23.of victims admitted to hospital with injuries from corrosive substances

:20:24. > :20:25.has doubled in a decade. It's led to calls for better

:20:26. > :20:28.controls on the sale of acid. Let's catch up with all

:20:29. > :20:31.the sport now and join Hugh with Good morning, again. The main

:20:32. > :20:34.headlines... The Chief Executive of the

:20:35. > :20:36.Premier League, Richard Scudamore, has told the BBC he thinks gay

:20:37. > :20:40.footballers would be treated with respect if they choose to publicly

:20:41. > :20:42.reveal their sexuality. Scudamore believes

:20:43. > :20:44.the environment would be entirely Ian Bell has been left out

:20:45. > :20:48.of England's Test squad to tour Batsmen Gary Ballance and

:20:49. > :20:52.Nick Compton return to the squad while pace bowler

:20:53. > :20:56.Mark Footitt gets a first call-up. Australian Eddie Jones is

:20:57. > :20:59.close to becoming England's Jones has held talks with RFU chief

:21:00. > :21:08.executive Ian Ritchie. The 55-year old is understood to be keen

:21:09. > :21:11.on the job, but needs to secure his release as coach of

:21:12. > :21:14.South African side the Stormers. New Zealand captain Richie McCaw

:21:15. > :21:16.has announced his retirement. The three-time World Player of

:21:17. > :21:19.the Year led the All Blacks to two World Cup final victories, including

:21:20. > :21:21.last month's win against Australia. And Russia's Anti-Doping Agency has

:21:22. > :21:24.been suspended by the world body, WADA, after an independent report

:21:25. > :21:27.accused the country of I'll have more on BBC News

:21:28. > :21:36.throughout the day. The fast-moving investigation

:21:37. > :21:38.into finding those responsible for Friday's terror attacks

:21:39. > :21:41.in Paris appeared to be coming to a head yesterday, as French security

:21:42. > :21:44.forces mounted a huge raid on an Most crucially, what happened

:21:45. > :21:54.to Abdelhamid Abaaoud? He is the alleged ringleader

:21:55. > :21:56.of the attacks who was thought to The Washington Post has reported two

:21:57. > :22:05.sources who say he was killed - but authorities are yet to identify

:22:06. > :22:10.him officially. Our Security Correspondent Frank

:22:11. > :22:22.Gardner is here. Is he dead? The only thing I can say

:22:23. > :22:27.is he is not in custody and as of ten AMB French Interior Ministry say

:22:28. > :22:31.they cannot confirm if he is amongst the dead bodies recovered from this

:22:32. > :22:39.absolutely massive gun battle that took face yesterday and it has taken

:22:40. > :22:44.some time because the floor collapsed, there is rubble and all

:22:45. > :22:48.sorts of mess that they have had to recover things from Andy very first

:22:49. > :22:52.people who will confirm this will be the French so I would treat with

:22:53. > :22:56.some suspicion reports from the United States if they are not from

:22:57. > :23:01.French officials, the Interior Ministry said they still could not

:23:02. > :23:04.confirm it. Obviously, if he is not amongst the dead and is not in

:23:05. > :23:09.custody, that'll be worrying because this person has been able move quite

:23:10. > :23:20.freely dream Syria and Europe and his Arabic nickname is the Father of

:23:21. > :23:29.Omar, the Belgian one. He is not mysterious, he has popped up on

:23:30. > :23:33.social media, Isis or Daesh have boasted in videos that he is in

:23:34. > :23:38.Syria and has been able to get back there and that might be a deception

:23:39. > :23:42.plan to put off the authorities, who seem to be playing catch up. They

:23:43. > :23:47.have done well in the last 36 hours to use mobile phone tapping and

:23:48. > :23:52.tip-offs to actually track down where they think he was in that

:23:53. > :23:56.double apartment in since Dennis. If he is not amongst the dead, he is

:23:57. > :24:02.still at large and that is worrying for people. In terms of European

:24:03. > :24:07.governments and the way they work together with intelligence, Philip

:24:08. > :24:16.Hammond says that has to get better. How did the French operate compared

:24:17. > :24:20.to the British? There are differences, even though they are on

:24:21. > :24:22.the same side and Britain has got people embedded in the French

:24:23. > :24:27.authorities, in their infrastructure, and vice versa, but

:24:28. > :24:32.there are differences and I think one of the most glaring ones is the

:24:33. > :24:36.week order controls and the fact that it is relatively easy for a

:24:37. > :24:42.determined terrorist to get hold of powerful automatic rifles like

:24:43. > :24:46.Kalashnikovs, these are mass murder weapon is not readily available in

:24:47. > :24:51.the UK, it is much harder to get hold of them here because Britain

:24:52. > :24:54.does not sign up to the open border agreement that France, Belgium and

:24:55. > :25:00.continental European countries have got so weak border controls is one

:25:01. > :25:03.thing. Then you have got the lack of really good intelligence sharing

:25:04. > :25:10.between the police and intelligence agencies, since 2001 and especially

:25:11. > :25:17.2005, in Britain, MI5 and the police work hand in glove, they used to be

:25:18. > :25:21.in competition, letters would arrive from MI5 or the police saying we

:25:22. > :25:26.would like you to hand over information about the following

:25:27. > :25:36.person. Taken by a courier, it was almost Dickensian! This is in my

:25:37. > :25:38.lifetime! That has changed. They have got people working jointly on

:25:39. > :25:46.investigations together and they were quickly. The French do not have

:25:47. > :25:49.that, there is still a lot of compartmentalisation, where people

:25:50. > :25:55.work in their own bubble and do not necessarily sure things and that

:25:56. > :26:00.extends to Europe, the Germans picked up a man with a car full of

:26:01. > :26:04.Kalashnikovs and they did not choose to tip off the French. And there

:26:05. > :26:10.were other tip-offs between the Belgians and French that should have

:26:11. > :26:14.happened and did not. Also, the problem that is common to all the

:26:15. > :26:20.intelligence and police and agencies is the sheer volume of casework they

:26:21. > :26:26.dealing with. Syria has been going for 4.5 years, that war, and that

:26:27. > :26:32.has generated an unprecedented number of suspects, including some

:26:33. > :26:35.who have not been there but have been radicalised by what they see

:26:36. > :26:40.going on and misguidedly think they can in some way serve the cause of

:26:41. > :26:44.their own religion by blowing up innocent people, encouraged by

:26:45. > :26:49.fanatics out there in Syria, who say, don't bother coming out, stay

:26:50. > :26:55.where you are, do the attacks there. You are serving the cause by doing

:26:56. > :26:58.that. It is becoming harder fought European jihadists to cross into

:26:59. > :27:02.Syria from Turkey. Harder than it was done two years ago. I was

:27:03. > :27:08.reading earlier this week, it takes something like 12-15 officers to

:27:09. > :27:15.keep one suspect under surveillance? Over 24-hour 's? But is similar to

:27:16. > :27:21.what I have heard, eyes on the street, and the person who you think

:27:22. > :27:25.might be a beggar or a tramp, they were from MI5, it is also the

:27:26. > :27:31.digital surveillance, watching what they do on social media, who they

:27:32. > :27:36.are calling, internet cafes, and so on, and some of the people have

:27:37. > :27:41.wrong we said that 400 people have come back from their and they are

:27:42. > :27:46.all dangerous but that is not true, it is at an extreme end of the

:27:47. > :27:49.spectrum of the danger. There is awesomely traumatised and want

:27:50. > :27:53.nothing more to do with it and some even regret they went there in the

:27:54. > :28:00.first place. Use coming in, this is from Paris, following instructions

:28:01. > :28:03.from the police the Paris mosque is considering cancelling their call

:28:04. > :28:06.together tomorrow to pay respects to the Paris attack victims. They are

:28:07. > :28:11.still going to hold a prayer for France at 1pm but they are

:28:12. > :28:17.considering cancelling the call together tomorrow. That is from our

:28:18. > :28:20.colleagues in Paris. Thank you very much. You are welcome.

:28:21. > :28:23.British schools planning to take groups to France over the next few

:28:24. > :28:28.The Foreign Office issued the guidance in line with that of

:28:29. > :28:33.David Hampson is from Tollbar Academy

:28:34. > :28:38.in Grimsby that had cancelled two school trips to Northern France.

:28:39. > :28:48.There you are! Thank you for coming on the programme. You are in the

:28:49. > :28:53.process of cancelling two trips? We have cancelled on Tuesday evening.

:28:54. > :28:57.At a meeting with parents, we made that decision. Based on the advice

:28:58. > :29:03.from the Frenchman history that was on the UK website and there were

:29:04. > :29:07.specific that they were cancelling all the school trips until the 22nd

:29:08. > :29:14.of November and they recommended that education visits stop until

:29:15. > :29:20.further notice. You did that before the British Foreign Office said it

:29:21. > :29:25.was right thing to do? We were mapping the events from the weekend

:29:26. > :29:33.and I made the decision in consultation with my principal and

:29:34. > :29:37.also the trustees on Tuesday. And they held an emergency meeting with

:29:38. > :29:44.the parents on Tuesday night to explain to them why I had made that

:29:45. > :29:47.decision. People are in support? Tautly, the parents are in total

:29:48. > :29:51.support, they were very pleased they had made that decision and please I

:29:52. > :29:54.had taken the decision out of their own hands because you can imagine

:29:55. > :30:00.there are lots of unhappy youngsters going on a visit to France, and

:30:01. > :30:08.there were also your eight, 12 and 13 years old. They were not sixth

:30:09. > :30:11.form or older. Thank you very much, David. I appreciate the time. Thank

:30:12. > :30:27.you very much. This is just in to do with the vote

:30:28. > :30:32.in fave of strike action by junior doctors. We had the vote just after

:30:33. > :30:36.ten this morning. Overwhelmingly, 98% of junior doctors voted for

:30:37. > :30:41.strike action in the row over pay and contracts, on a turnout of 76%.

:30:42. > :30:44.This is a statement from their employers: Today's announcement is

:30:45. > :30:48.disappointing and will result in thousands of NHS patients, their

:30:49. > :30:51.families and carers being concerned that their planned care and

:30:52. > :30:55.treatment will be disrupted during December. NHS organisations are now

:30:56. > :30:59.working hard to keep disruption to a minimum but it's inevitable that

:31:00. > :31:03.appointments will be postponed, surgery rearranged and clinics

:31:04. > :31:07.closed. By taking the unprecedented step of not providing emergency

:31:08. > :31:11.cover for two of their days of action, the BMA, the British Medical

:31:12. > :31:15.Association, the union for junior doctors, are putting the NHS and

:31:16. > :31:19.colleagues under even greater strain during one of Isth its busiest

:31:20. > :31:24.periods, impacting even further on our ability to provide safe,

:31:25. > :31:29.effective care for patients. At this late stage we call on the BMA to

:31:30. > :31:34.return to talks. The new contract offers increases in basic pay,

:31:35. > :31:38.concrete safeguards on working hours and pay protection to ensure doctors

:31:39. > :31:42.won't lose out. The public will question why the BMA are causing

:31:43. > :31:48.such significant disruption when the offer of talks remains open. Very

:31:49. > :31:53.strong statement from NHS employers. The reaction to the vote earlier

:31:54. > :31:57.this morning that junior doctors will strike on three separate

:31:58. > :32:02.occasions, December 1st, 8th and 16th, in that row over pay and new

:32:03. > :32:03.contracts. We are expecting to hear from the Health Secretary in the

:32:04. > :32:11.next hour here on BBC News. A brand new research clinic,

:32:12. > :32:13.has just opened this morning, which, it's said, has the potential

:32:14. > :32:16.to revolutionise the lives of women with a genetic mutation; leading to

:32:17. > :32:19.improvements in predicting the risk for and prevention of developing

:32:20. > :32:23.ovarian and breast cancer in the UK, according to one particular cancer

:32:24. > :32:25.charity, The Eve Appeal. It is inviting women with

:32:26. > :32:28.a BRCA1 or BRCA2 gene mutation and their family members to visit the

:32:29. > :32:31.clinic in London for annual samples to be taken to detect their risk of

:32:32. > :32:35.developing ovarian or breast cancer. It's the first initiative

:32:36. > :32:37.of its kind. Let's talk more about this with our

:32:38. > :32:48.health correspondent Jane Draper. This sounds important, is it, as a

:32:49. > :32:55.research project, significant? It is. It's about women who have the

:32:56. > :32:58.faulty genes which put them at a 70-80% higher risk than usual of

:32:59. > :33:03.greating breast or ovarian cancer. At the moment, some women opt to

:33:04. > :33:07.have surgery to reduce the risk of the cancer even beginning, the sort

:33:08. > :33:10.of thing that Angelina Jolie did. About 400 women a year in the UK

:33:11. > :33:15.take that decision. It's important to remember that you can still get

:33:16. > :33:20.breast or ovarian cancer for a host of other reasons, most cases are

:33:21. > :33:27.nothing to do with your genes, the faults in the BRCA genes account for

:33:28. > :33:32.up 2010% of the 51,000 cases a year. Ovarian cancer affects fewer women.

:33:33. > :33:36.But it's really important, it really needs research buzz the survival

:33:37. > :33:41.statistics are grim, 35% of patients are alive ten years after diagnosis

:33:42. > :33:46.which is fairly depressing. So in terms of this new project,

:33:47. > :33:49.what are researchers going to be looking at specifically? They are

:33:50. > :33:55.trying to get 1500 women from the high-risk groups who will probably

:33:56. > :33:59.know already from family history that they have a genetic problem.

:34:00. > :34:03.They also want to recruit 3,000 women who have no reason to believe

:34:04. > :34:07.that they have a problem, they are asking for a cheek swab and smear

:34:08. > :34:12.test and they are going to look at the cells and see if they can get to

:34:13. > :34:17.the bottom of how breast and ovarian cancers develop, what is going on in

:34:18. > :34:26.the cells in the belong which is a growing area of Cancer Research --

:34:27. > :34:31.biology. If the women have no reason to believe there is Something wrong

:34:32. > :34:46.with them and it's found that there is, they'll of course be told.

:34:47. > :34:57.The French President, Francois Hollande has been speaking in the

:34:58. > :35:03.last few minutes. The context that we know takes a

:35:04. > :35:09.particular meaning. Dialogue amongst cultures, the difference of rights,

:35:10. > :35:15.the protection of the weak and then the resistance to oppression.

:35:16. > :35:22.I have a thought for Jacques Chirac who cannot be with us today. But

:35:23. > :35:30.he's always been present when it comes to the case of defending the

:35:31. > :35:36.values of the republic. During his presidency, he faced terrorism as

:35:37. > :35:48.well. Thinking about the attacks that hit our country in 1995. At

:35:49. > :35:53.that time, it was the radical Islam that struck us. Today it's Daesh,

:35:54. > :35:58.Isis, which is launching a war against us because we are France, a

:35:59. > :36:11.country of liberty, democracy and culture. Because we have been the

:36:12. > :36:20.first people in the world to proclaim that people are born equal

:36:21. > :36:26.and free and expression of thoughts is men's rights. Isis has lodged a

:36:27. > :36:31.war against our way of life, the art of living, to life and life in

:36:32. > :36:39.France. France is conducting this war using its Armed Forces, military

:36:40. > :36:45.whose courage I salute. It will conduct this war which its allies

:36:46. > :36:57.and partners by using all the means to win this war like we did in Iraq

:36:58. > :37:05.and like we are doing in Syria. France is conducting this war using

:37:06. > :37:11.its policemen who, once again, intervened to show their dedication

:37:12. > :37:16.and courage. They deserve the admiration and recognition of the

:37:17. > :37:22.nation, the whole nation. We should come together. France is letting

:37:23. > :37:27.this war with the French men and women without any distinction --

:37:28. > :37:32.France is leading the war. They are concerned with the elected members

:37:33. > :37:33.of the republic who met together at the mayor's meeting in France

:37:34. > :37:48.yesterday. It is using this war with the law

:37:49. > :37:52.and to guarantee a fundamental right. We'll never renounce to what

:37:53. > :37:56.we are. Francois Hollande speaking in the

:37:57. > :37:59.last few minutes as he attempts to special suede colleagues and

:38:00. > :38:03.political opponents to extend the state of emergency across France for

:38:04. > :38:08.a further three months. As the police in Paris question the seven

:38:09. > :38:12.people arrested in yesterday's raid, a man whose wife died in the raids

:38:13. > :38:16.last week has written an open letter to his killers. You may have seen

:38:17. > :38:24.it, it's been shared by over ten million people. An into says he'll

:38:25. > :38:27.never forget Helene, that he and his little boy will not be made to live

:38:28. > :41:05.in fear or hate. An into spoke to the BBC about his

:41:06. > :41:13.letter. Antoine spoke to the BBC about his letter. I have the same

:41:14. > :41:16.feelings today as I wrote had when I wrote the letter. I don't know if I

:41:17. > :41:23.will continue to feel the same way. What do I hope for my son? Helene

:41:24. > :41:26.for everyone who knew her, it was all about her eyes, she had these

:41:27. > :41:32.huge eyes, it was striking, big, shining open eyes full of life.

:41:33. > :41:37.Our boy was born with his eyes open. He came out the front of his mother

:41:38. > :41:43.with his eyes open. What I hope for shim that he keeps his eyes open for

:41:44. > :41:48.the rest of his life. What I'm going to try and do for him is help him

:41:49. > :41:53.keep his eyes open as he grows up and becomes a man, literature, art,

:41:54. > :41:59.music, to open up to the world. To see the world through that prism and

:42:00. > :42:04.not through their prism which tries to blacken everything, to set people

:42:05. > :42:08.up against each other to make us us into enemies, which we are not, we

:42:09. > :42:12.are just different. Thank you for your messages about

:42:13. > :42:15.the strike action which will be taken by junior doctors, or rather

:42:16. > :42:19.they have voted in fave of strike action, there are now calls for

:42:20. > :42:23.talks for the BMA to get together with England's Health Secretary,

:42:24. > :42:29.Jeremy Hunt. I was asking if you supported what they wanted to do.

:42:30. > :42:34.Julie says, junior doctors have the promise of a well-paid career, they

:42:35. > :42:37.should get on with it. Sympathy for them, this is what happens when they

:42:38. > :42:42.are not treated with the respect they deserve. Testify the right to

:42:43. > :42:46.withdraw labour, they are not slaves. I'm sure they are reluctant

:42:47. > :42:50.to take action and I'm sure they have been given little option. Shame

:42:51. > :42:54.on those who've abandon their responsibilities for the sake of

:42:55. > :43:00.money and following their misguided union, the BMA. Those who do this

:43:01. > :43:05.demonstrate their unsuitability and failure to live up to their oath. By

:43:06. > :43:10.the way, I'm a retired physician, says Francis. Sell Wynn tweets they

:43:11. > :43:16.earn a forture champion and are high when it comes to the pay tables.

:43:17. > :43:21.Kenneth says, having a full team on duty seven days a week will ensure

:43:22. > :43:25.that fewer people die. Why are doctors resisting reform

:43:26. > :43:29.that saves lives? Sue says junior doctors should not strike. They'll

:43:30. > :43:35.lose my respect if they do. There are many, many more of those. You

:43:36. > :43:39.can see all shades of opinion. Thank you for those. This lunch time on

:43:40. > :43:42.the News Channel, our Health Correspondent will be asking your

:43:43. > :43:44.questions about the dispute and what the strike action could mean. Get in

:43:45. > :43:54.touch. Thank you very much for being with

:43:55. > :43:57.us today. Joanna is here tomorrow. Have a good day.