03/12/2015

:00:09. > :00:11.Hello it's Thursday, it's 9.15, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:12. > :00:19.This morning; British warplanes have carried out airstrikes in Syria,

:00:20. > :00:26.four tornado jets have each dropped three massive 500lb Paveway bombs

:00:27. > :00:41.The strikes started within hours of that vote by MPs.

:00:42. > :00:48.The ayes to the right 397, the noes to the left, 223, so the ayes have

:00:49. > :00:51.it, the ayes have it. Throughout the programme we'll get

:00:52. > :00:54.reaction from you, the military and people in Syria and

:00:55. > :01:08.from some of the politicians who I'm Angela, SNP and I voted against

:01:09. > :01:13.because I didn't believe we'd had enough answers to the questions. I'm

:01:14. > :01:22.James, Conservative MP for Kingston and Surbiton, I voted in favour of

:01:23. > :01:29.the air strikes, Daesh operate in Iraq and in Syria, we are extending

:01:30. > :01:34.into Syria, that is the sensible thing to do.

:01:35. > :01:37.Also on the programme, Oscar Pistorius was guilty

:01:38. > :01:39.of murder for shooting his girlfriends Reeva Steenkamp.

:01:40. > :01:43.A South African appeal court has ruled in the last half hour that

:01:44. > :01:45.a previous conviction of manslaughter should be overturned.

:01:46. > :01:51.We'll bring you the details and reaction.

:01:52. > :01:57.Guilty of murder with the defendant having had intent.

:01:58. > :02:00.Plus, we'll bring you reaction to the news that at least 14 people

:02:01. > :02:05.have been killed in yet another mass shooting at a health centre

:02:06. > :02:24.There was the shooter in a building. They went into a room and locked the

:02:25. > :02:36.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC News

:02:37. > :02:42.Throughout the programme we'll keep you right across events in Syria

:02:43. > :02:47.and we want your reaction to that vote and military action.

:02:48. > :02:51.Do get in touch in the usual ways and we'll read

:02:52. > :02:58.Plus, we'll keep you up to date with events

:02:59. > :03:02.in Switzerland where police have arrested two Fifa offiicials as part

:03:03. > :03:07.of an investigation into corruption in the world governing body.

:03:08. > :03:10.And of course you can watch the programme online wherever you

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:03:23. > :03:26.Within hours of that vote by MPs, RAF jets carried out

:03:27. > :03:32.Four planes were involved, each armed with three massive 500lb

:03:33. > :03:39.397 MPs voted for Britain to extend air strikes in Syria, 223 voted

:03:40. > :03:57.Do we go after the terrorists in their Heartlands from where they are

:03:58. > :04:05.plotting to kill British people or sit back and wait for them to attack

:04:06. > :04:09.us? Public opinion is moving increasingly against what I believe

:04:10. > :04:15.to be an ill-thought out rush to war. We are being asked to intervene

:04:16. > :04:19.in a bloody Civil War of huge complexity. We are being asked to do

:04:20. > :04:24.it without an exit strategy and no reasonable means of saying we are

:04:25. > :04:29.going to make a difference. Daesh are the fascists of our time and I

:04:30. > :04:34.believe there is still dignity in uniting with our allies in common

:04:35. > :04:41.cause against a common enemy in defence of our human commandality.

:04:42. > :04:47.When I go through the lobby... It will be for the refugees and it will

:04:48. > :04:53.be for the security in Twickenham. Most of the factions which are

:04:54. > :04:58.extremely locally based have no interest whatsoever in being drawn

:04:59. > :05:03.into battles against groups which basically share their sectarian

:05:04. > :05:09.agenda hundreds of miles away in areas in which they are unfamiliar.

:05:10. > :05:15.Mr Speaker, instead of having dodgy dossiers, we now have bogus

:05:16. > :05:21.battalions of moderate fighters. Our French allies have explicitly

:05:22. > :05:27.asked us for such support, and I invite the House to consider how

:05:28. > :05:32.we'd feel and what we'd say, if what took place in Paris happened in

:05:33. > :05:40.London, if we'd asked France for support and France had refused. As a

:05:41. > :05:47.Muslim woman, I'll stand with people of all faiths. We are justified in

:05:48. > :05:50.taking action to destroy Isis, they are a threat and won't rest until

:05:51. > :05:54.they have decitied us and everything we stand for. Mr Speaker, to join

:05:55. > :06:00.the already ongoing bombing campaign in the skies over Syria will only

:06:01. > :06:00.compound human suffering. Military intervention without credible

:06:01. > :06:05.peace-building plans will only make intervention without credible

:06:06. > :06:10.the situation worse, just as it did in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

:06:11. > :06:15.Socialist and Trade Unionists and others joined the national brigade

:06:16. > :06:21.in the '30s to fight against Franco. It's why this sbiesh House stood up

:06:22. > :06:27.against Hitler and Mussolini. It's why our party's always stood up

:06:28. > :06:32.against the denial of human rights and for justice and my view, Mr

:06:33. > :06:40.Speaker, is that we must now confront this evil. It is now time

:06:41. > :06:42.for us to do our bit in Syria and that is why I ask my colleagues to

:06:43. > :07:03.vote for this motion tonight. THE SPEAKER: The ayes to the right,

:07:04. > :07:11.397, the noes to the left, 323. THE SPEAKER: The ayes to the right,

:07:12. > :07:13.397, the noes to the left, 323, so the ayes have it, the ayes have it.

:07:14. > :07:16.Unlock. It was emotional, it was thoughtful,

:07:17. > :07:29.it was passionate, it was nuanced. I watched BBC Parliament yesterday,

:07:30. > :07:30.some of the speeches were brilliant, some were not.

:07:31. > :07:33.For the new intake of MPs, those who were elected to Parliament

:07:34. > :07:36.just seven months ago, none surely could have imagined

:07:37. > :07:39.they'd be voting on what could turn out to be the most important

:07:40. > :07:44.We've brought together some of those politicians elected

:07:45. > :07:47.in back in May, three who voted for extending air strikes to Syria.

:07:48. > :07:53.Alex Chalk, Gavin Robinson and James Berry voted

:07:54. > :07:58.for airstrikes, Two who voted against, Clive Lewis from Labour,

:07:59. > :08:10.As you can see, only Angela is here this morn, Clive and Louise pulled

:08:11. > :08:13.out at the last minute. Let me ask you then, seven months into this

:08:14. > :08:17.job, did any of you ever think you would be making a decision of this

:08:18. > :08:22.magnitude at this stage in your political career?

:08:23. > :08:25.I think in an ideal world you would never have to make decisions like

:08:26. > :08:30.the one we had to make last night. But the situation in Syria is far

:08:31. > :08:34.from ideal and the situation that we find ourselves in at home and abroad

:08:35. > :08:38.is far from ideal, so when the decision comes, we can't shirk it.

:08:39. > :08:40.We can't set aside the important decisions of national security just

:08:41. > :08:45.because we are new to Parliament. There is a heavy burden on our

:08:46. > :08:48.shoulders and last night not only the majority of young and new MPs,

:08:49. > :08:53.but the majority of MPs, made the right decision. Can I just add to

:08:54. > :08:55.that, one thing I think is good is that it's Parliament that's making

:08:56. > :09:00.this decision because it's the new convention. It used to be the Prime

:09:01. > :09:04.Minister acting under his powers, now there is that say for Parliament

:09:05. > :09:07.and our democracy's for it. Although it wasn't that long ago that David

:09:08. > :09:13.Cameron took the decision to use drones to kill two British Jihadists

:09:14. > :09:17.in Syria without Parliament giving its say-so, but I broadly take your

:09:18. > :09:21.point. Angela, in terms of you making your decision, you are just

:09:22. > :09:27.seven months into the job, what was that like for you? This is always

:09:28. > :09:30.going to be a difficult decision, irrespective of how long you are in

:09:31. > :09:38.the job. It will be at the forefront of your mind, the constituents and

:09:39. > :09:41.who you represent And the far-reaching impact this has. Nobody

:09:42. > :09:46.could forget that point or undermine the importance of that.

:09:47. > :09:50.What about you, James? Nothing can prepare you for having to take a

:09:51. > :09:58.decision as grave as sending our troops into battle. As an MP, there

:09:59. > :10:03.are lots of things that have to do, I had to speak at a funeral of a

:10:04. > :10:07.14-year-old girl ran over in my constituency. You have to listen to

:10:08. > :10:12.the arguments, not to take a decision lightly and go with your

:10:13. > :10:17.conscience and that's what I did. Nothing prepared you, but did you

:10:18. > :10:21.feel equipped to make that decision? I did, we had briefings from senior

:10:22. > :10:24.members of the military and the Cabinet and the RAF and we had all

:10:25. > :10:29.the information that I think we possibly could have had to make that

:10:30. > :10:33.decision. When you went to bed last night, were you nervous about the

:10:34. > :10:38.decision you'd reached or, did you sleep soundly? I didn't sleep

:10:39. > :10:42.soundly. I obviously voted against air strikes and felt really strongly

:10:43. > :10:45.that having spoken at great length, there are thousands of pieces of

:10:46. > :10:50.correspondence from constituents who didn't want us to take part in air

:10:51. > :10:55.strikes. So despite having taken the right decision for them, I don't

:10:56. > :10:59.rest easy with the decision that's been made because I have to think of

:11:00. > :11:09.people living in Syria and living with the consequences. Did you sleep

:11:10. > :11:13.soundly? Yesterday was a more difficult position than last night.

:11:14. > :11:16.In the run-up to the vote and the considerations that were made, there

:11:17. > :11:20.were quite a number of MPs last night who made their decision after

:11:21. > :11:27.the final speech with Hilary Benn, a speech that I think will be historic

:11:28. > :11:31.and recognised as such a significant contribution to Parliamentary life.

:11:32. > :11:36.Interestingly, the Shadow Foreign Secretary closing the debate and

:11:37. > :11:40.speaking for air strikes in obviously direct opposition to his

:11:41. > :11:43.leader earlier in the day? Yes. At the start he was complimentary

:11:44. > :11:47.towards his leader as well and recognised there was a burden on

:11:48. > :11:51.members of his own party. We can't get away from the fact that there

:11:52. > :11:56.was a huge burden on people of whatever decision they took at the

:11:57. > :12:01.end. A huge burden yesterday. Whilst there was not a sense of relief, I

:12:02. > :12:05.was pleased the vote had been taken and indeed comfortable with the

:12:06. > :12:09.outcome. Alex, I think you made up your mind finally just on Tuesday,

:12:10. > :12:15.the day before the vote. What was going through your mind until then?

:12:16. > :12:18.Well, I started from a position of I think probably a healthy scepticism.

:12:19. > :12:22.Every time you are being asked to commit British forces, I think

:12:23. > :12:26.you've got to make sure the case is absolutely made and initially my

:12:27. > :12:30.concern was look, it's an idealogy as well as an army, can you achieve

:12:31. > :12:35.anything from 35,000 feet. Because of the briefings we got, I asked for

:12:36. > :12:39.one with Theresa May in person and I said, these the things I need your

:12:40. > :12:43.assistance on, can you persuade me. By the end of it, the case had been

:12:44. > :12:48.made and I reached my decision with a clear conscience. Yes. I made my

:12:49. > :12:52.decision over the weekend, had briefings like the one that Alex

:12:53. > :12:56.mentioned and, to me, it was a very clear decision, one I reached with

:12:57. > :13:02.heavy heart, it was a grave decision, but it was quite clear hi

:13:03. > :13:07.the right one. I know there were MPs who, as Gavin says, weren't

:13:08. > :13:12.convinced by Hilary Benn's fantastic speech yesterday, one of the best

:13:13. > :13:17.I've heard in my life. There were Labour MPs in tears in that speech,

:13:18. > :13:22.listening to it, because a number of Labour MPs have come under an

:13:23. > :13:26.unbelievable amount of pressure, being threatened with deselection,

:13:27. > :13:32.having marches and nobody can prepare you for that. We would have

:13:33. > :13:35.liked to have talked to Louise and Clive who agreed to come on the

:13:36. > :13:39.programme yesterday to ask to put some of those points to them, but

:13:40. > :13:45.maybe we'll get to talk to a Labour MP at some point throughout the

:13:46. > :13:50.programme this morning. Angela, air strikes have now taken

:13:51. > :13:54.place, British involvement in Syria has happened. Four jets, each armed

:13:55. > :14:01.with three huge bombs, they have returned to Cyprus without the

:14:02. > :14:06.bombs. Britain is bombing IS targets in Syria? For me, the reason I voted

:14:07. > :14:09.against it is because I'm not convinced that any further air

:14:10. > :14:13.strikes will make the Belindaest bit of difference at this stage. There

:14:14. > :14:18.are already ten countries in Syria. What difference does the UK

:14:19. > :14:22.contribute and how will that help Syria, I'm not persuaded. It's a

:14:23. > :14:26.fair question and we'll ask the gentlemen who voted for the air

:14:27. > :14:32.strikes, but those bombs, we are told, have targeted oil fields

:14:33. > :14:37.controlled by IS, that is one of the ways they are funded. Is that not a

:14:38. > :14:40.good thing to take those out? The arguments coming through yesterday

:14:41. > :14:45.were about getting to the source, where is their funding and weaponry

:14:46. > :14:50.coming from and we in the SNP agree that action has to be taken against

:14:51. > :14:54.Daesh, we are not sitting back saying no action has to be taken,

:14:55. > :14:57.but I'm not persuaded this is the right action and I would like to see

:14:58. > :15:04.more action taken but in the right way. Your reaction, three men here

:15:05. > :15:09.who voted for air strikes, they have begun, British jets are involved,

:15:10. > :15:12.how do you react to that? It's unhelpful to talk about bombing

:15:13. > :15:17.Syria. How would you describe it then? We are attacking Daesh and we

:15:18. > :15:21.can't lose that focus. It's smack ticks though isn't it? It's not.

:15:22. > :15:24.Irrespective of where they are and how they are going to harm us or the

:15:25. > :15:34.people in the countries in which they operate, they are a target. --

:15:35. > :15:39.semantics. I have sympathy for the people horrifically oppressed,

:15:40. > :15:42.similarly for those in Iraq. 74 attacks alone by Daesh in the UK, we

:15:43. > :15:46.have to recognise the enemy is there, not the Syrian people, not

:15:47. > :15:50.the country of Syria, but the borders and we need to hunt them

:15:51. > :15:52.down. The reality is though that the

:15:53. > :15:58.Syrian people will have to live with it, that is where they live. Two

:15:59. > :16:03.million children are out of school right now. How does air strikes in

:16:04. > :16:10.Syria prevent young people from guaranteeing a future. Daesh will

:16:11. > :16:13.not encourage them to live in a tolerant, multi-Kellth cultural

:16:14. > :16:18.pacifist society. Daesh will not provide a good future for the

:16:19. > :16:24.children of Syria. Every day we allow them to dig in, gain oil

:16:25. > :16:26.wealth. More gay people thrown off buildings, more people brutalised

:16:27. > :16:31.and killed and more children out of schools. We have to step up, not

:16:32. > :16:32.particularly when they just inspire offences but they commission

:16:33. > :16:42.atrocities in Britain. I absolutely agree with you about

:16:43. > :16:45.the innocent people who will be affected but the decision taken last

:16:46. > :16:50.night will impact on their lives as well. None of us underestimate the

:16:51. > :16:53.decision but I know a lot of SNP MPs and a number of the more left-wing

:16:54. > :16:59.Labour MPs voted against air strikes in Daesh in Iraq in November 2014. I

:17:00. > :17:03.can completely understand the intellectual case for someone who

:17:04. > :17:07.voted against that voting against bombing Daesh in Syria as well, but

:17:08. > :17:12.for us to recognise a border which Daesh themselves do not recognise,

:17:13. > :17:17.they operate across both countries, for us to stop our air strikes at

:17:18. > :17:22.the border which diets themselves do not recognise, to me, makes no

:17:23. > :17:25.sense. I want to read messages from people having this conversation

:17:26. > :17:32.around the country, but a quick question, what is the Exeter

:17:33. > :17:37.strategy? I think Exeter strategy puts this into the confines of going

:17:38. > :17:42.after a country where you go to a place and keep. Daesh does not

:17:43. > :17:45.recognise borders. What we need to do is reduce their capacity, reduce

:17:46. > :17:51.the impact they will have here and in the UK and abroad. Reduce the

:17:52. > :17:57.impact they are having on people. What will success looked like? Less

:17:58. > :18:02.capability, less in fact, reduced threat in this country and to

:18:03. > :18:12.release the Rheims -- release a loose around the necks of the people

:18:13. > :18:17.suffering in strict -- in Syria. One viewer says, I watched the debate

:18:18. > :18:24.and felt sick when the MPs clapped. We are meant to feel safer now? As

:18:25. > :18:28.for the people in Syria, I could weep for them. One on Twitter says,

:18:29. > :18:35.not in my name. From Robert, this is a disgraceful vote, a rush to war, a

:18:36. > :18:38.sad day for us all. An e-mail from Lewis, this is ridiculous, not only

:18:39. > :18:43.to the majority of the public despise it but David Cameron is

:18:44. > :18:48.scaring people into voting by using the phrase terrorist sympathiser. It

:18:49. > :18:53.is manipulative. Alison says, I am an SNP supporter, but I am

:18:54. > :18:56.disappointed by their attitude toward Syria, don't they understand

:18:57. > :18:59.we are a target? Thank you for those.

:19:00. > :19:03.You can find a list of how your MPs vote on the BBC News website.

:19:04. > :19:05.Throughout the progrmame we'll bring you the

:19:06. > :19:10.We'll bring you reaction from the military, from Syrians

:19:11. > :19:13.living in this country and in Syria, and we'll bring you the latest live

:19:14. > :19:24.And more on the dramatic judgment overturning Oscar Pistorius'

:19:25. > :19:29.manslaughter conviction and replacing it with murder.

:19:30. > :19:34.Britain has carried out its first air strikes in Syria,

:19:35. > :19:52.just hours after MPs voted in favour of military action.

:19:53. > :19:54.Jets set off from their bases in Scotland and Cyprus,

:19:55. > :19:57.targeting so-called Islamic State targets in the east of the country.

:19:58. > :19:59.The jets dropped 500lb laser-guided bombs on oil fields

:20:00. > :20:01.The Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said

:20:02. > :20:07.I can confirm that four British Tornadoes were in action after the

:20:08. > :20:11.vote last night, attacking oilfields in eastern Syria, the oilfields from

:20:12. > :20:22.which the Daesh terrorists derive a huge part of their revenue.

:20:23. > :20:31.The Government won the vote with more than 170 -- with a majority of

:20:32. > :20:32.more than 170. More than 60 Labour MPs backed

:20:33. > :20:34.the Government in last night's Commons vote, including Shadow

:20:35. > :20:40.Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn. It is time for us to do our bit in

:20:41. > :20:42.Syria, which is why ask my colleagues to vote for this motion

:20:43. > :20:47.to light. -- tonight. 14 people have been killed

:20:48. > :20:58.in a mass shooting at The attackers, Wimbledon and a man

:20:59. > :21:02.in their 20s, were shot dead by police. It is the deadliest attack

:21:03. > :21:10.in the US since a school shooting in in 2012.

:21:11. > :21:12.In the past hour, Oscar Pistorius has been found

:21:13. > :21:14.guilty of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp in 2013.

:21:15. > :21:16.The decision by South Africa's Supreme Court overturns a previous

:21:17. > :21:23.The judge said he had fired the fatal shots with criminal intent.

:21:24. > :21:29.Guilty of murder with the accused having had criminal intent in the

:21:30. > :21:34.form of dolus eventualis. The methods referred back to the trial

:21:35. > :21:37.court to consider an appropriate in terms of the -- in light of the

:21:38. > :21:38.judgment. Let's catch up with all

:21:39. > :21:43.the sport now. It's

:21:44. > :21:46.a phrase we often find ourselves saying and today there have been

:21:47. > :21:51.further arrests made for bribery. Swiss Authorities suspect two

:21:52. > :21:54.high-ranking Fifa officials may have accepted millions of dollars

:21:55. > :21:57.of bribes. They were arrested in dawn raids

:21:58. > :22:11.at a Swiss hotel in Zurich. That's where we will find sports

:22:12. > :22:14.news correspondent Richard Conway On May 7th Fifa officials were

:22:15. > :22:20.arrested in the very same hotel in Zurich on corruption charges,

:22:21. > :22:23.but the body will have more fingers On the field of play,

:22:24. > :22:26.there was a fantastic result for Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool

:22:27. > :22:28.in the League Cup last night. A 6-1 away win over Southampton,

:22:29. > :22:31.put them into the semi-final and set A trip to Wembley in February

:22:32. > :22:36.would be just the thing to really Their fans will be dreaming

:22:37. > :22:39.of an all-Merseyside final with Everton drawn with Manchester City

:22:40. > :22:41.in the other semi. So we'll see how that pans out,

:22:42. > :22:44.it's shaping up nicely. We'll take a look as well at

:22:45. > :22:47.Great Britain's Hockey team who are flying high at the

:22:48. > :23:01.World League Final in India. Lots of reaction to the fact that

:23:02. > :23:05.British jets have been dropping bombs in Syria. We will take you to

:23:06. > :23:09.RAF Lossiemouth now. Look at these pictures, we can see a plane, I'm

:23:10. > :23:11.told this is a transporter plane, taking off and heading for the

:23:12. > :23:53.British RAF base in Cyprus. On its way to the RAF base in Cyprus

:23:54. > :24:00.from RAF Lossiemouth, it will be joining the various other Tornado

:24:01. > :24:06.and Typhoon jets which are based in Cyprus. More Tornados heading out to

:24:07. > :24:19.eastern Syria overnight after the vote by MPs in the House of Commons.

:24:20. > :24:21.They are back there this morning. We will leave those pictures then

:24:22. > :24:23.up. That transporter plane on its way to

:24:24. > :24:26.the RAF base in Cyprus. So, the talking about whether to

:24:27. > :24:28.take military action is over. The first British air strikes

:24:29. > :24:31.against targets in Syria have begun. Just hours after MPs voted to extend

:24:32. > :24:36.the war against so-called IS by 397 votes to 223, four Tornados

:24:37. > :24:51.loaded with bombs took off from Our world affairs correspondent

:24:52. > :24:55.Richard Galpin is there. We have also seen a number of jets taking

:24:56. > :25:01.off from Lossiemouth in Scotland and East Anglia. Our correspondent Craig

:25:02. > :25:03.Anderson is that Lossiemouth, Alex Dunlop is at RAF Marham. I think we

:25:04. > :25:12.can talk to all of them right now. Let's start with you in Lossiemouth,

:25:13. > :25:19.if we make. We have just seen the transporter plane taking off for

:25:20. > :25:25.Cyprus. What would it be giving? -- what will it be doing?

:25:26. > :25:32.We saw buses arriving, it will be taking engineers, ground staff and

:25:33. > :25:35.maintenance supplies to RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, to service the planes

:25:36. > :25:40.that left here this morning. We saw a total of six Typhoon warplanes

:25:41. > :25:44.heading off as well as one Tornado from here at RAF Lossiemouth,

:25:45. > :25:48.Lossiemouth being one of the main bases in the UK for the Typhoon. The

:25:49. > :25:54.tycoon is one of the most advanced warplanes anywhere in the world, it

:25:55. > :25:57.carries an array of precision guided bombs and missiles, as well as very

:25:58. > :26:04.sophisticated surveillance and reconnaissance equipment on board.

:26:05. > :26:09.As well as single-seat aircraft. They will be joining the Tornados,

:26:10. > :26:14.slightly older, not quite as fast as the Typhoons but still very, very

:26:15. > :26:18.capable, and of course the air strikes against Syria may have

:26:19. > :26:28.started but the air strikes against Iraq will continue, and these planes

:26:29. > :26:31.will be doubling the compliment of British warplanes currently based at

:26:32. > :26:35.RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus. Let's go to Cyprus, then, Richard

:26:36. > :26:39.Galpin, world affairs correspondent, talk through which jets have left

:26:40. > :26:46.there, what they have done and what has happened since they returned?

:26:47. > :26:50.Yes, there were four Tornados which were based here, which took off last

:26:51. > :26:54.night. As understanding is it was very soon after the vote in

:26:55. > :26:58.parliament, perhaps within an hour. They had obviously been pre-fight

:26:59. > :27:03.targets, they knew beforehand what they would hit. Essentially what we

:27:04. > :27:09.understand if they hit an oilfield under control of Isis militants in

:27:10. > :27:14.the east of Syria, an area called Omar, apparently, and they hit six

:27:15. > :27:17.targets in that oil fields, apparently, according to Michael

:27:18. > :27:21.Fallon, Defence Secretary, heating the wellheads. He said the mission

:27:22. > :27:24.was successful but they are still assessing the damage so we should

:27:25. > :27:29.perhaps he later in the day exactly what they managed to achieve. But

:27:30. > :27:43.clearly the significance of this is trying to take out the sources of

:27:44. > :27:45.revenue which Isis has, and the oilfields, several of them, are very

:27:46. > :27:48.important. They bring millions of dollars in revenue to the militants,

:27:49. > :27:50.so very significant revenue streams. It is only recently, actually, over

:27:51. > :27:53.the last few weeks or months, that any of the coalition partners led by

:27:54. > :27:57.the United States have started attacking the oilfields or the

:27:58. > :28:01.tankers taking the oil to the markets, which, in a way, is

:28:02. > :28:05.strange, given how much money they have been bringing to the militants

:28:06. > :28:11.to enable them to operate. But certainly the Americans and also the

:28:12. > :28:16.Russians have been bombing them over the last few weeks.

:28:17. > :28:20.Four Tornados each carrying three massive ?500-macro bombs, the jets

:28:21. > :28:24.returning without the bombs. Do we know how many oilfields, how much

:28:25. > :28:31.damage has been caused by those bonds? -- three massive 500 pounds

:28:32. > :28:38.bombs. My understanding is it was one

:28:39. > :28:42.oilfields, but I maybe wrong. Within that, they hit six different

:28:43. > :28:47.targets, the wellheads, so basically it. Then being able to get the flow

:28:48. > :28:51.of oil and being able to sell it on into the market, as I was saying.

:28:52. > :28:54.But at the moment we are waiting for the information to find out about

:28:55. > :28:58.how successful that targeting has been.

:28:59. > :29:01.OK, thank you, Richard Galpin in Cyprus.

:29:02. > :29:12.Let's come back to Britain, Alex Dunlop is at RAF mark. What has been

:29:13. > :29:15.happening there? Hopefully will be able to hear me

:29:16. > :29:18.over the din of another plane taking off, it has been very busy in the

:29:19. > :29:20.last ten minutes. Just before 9am this morning we saw one Tornado

:29:21. > :29:23.rolling down RAF Marham's long runway, taking off into the rather

:29:24. > :29:31.leaden sky above me. It was followed ten minutes later by another GR

:29:32. > :29:37.four, both safely en route to that base at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus. Once

:29:38. > :29:40.they are there they will join eight RAF Marham Tornados which are

:29:41. > :29:46.already based on the Mediterranean island. They have been there for the

:29:47. > :29:51.last 15 months also, patrolling the skies over Iraq, carrying out

:29:52. > :29:56.reconnaissance sorties and also as strikes up to 400 air strikes, and

:29:57. > :30:04.as Craig said it would double the RAF strike aircraft contingent from

:30:05. > :30:07.eight to 16. You can probably hear another RAF Tornado taking off

:30:08. > :30:13.behind me, I hope you can hear me. It is a very old hairpin, about 40

:30:14. > :30:16.years old. That said, it is bristling with technology, both in

:30:17. > :30:24.the cockpit and under the Fuser large,. It is a very valuable,

:30:25. > :30:32.proven asset, it has seen action in both golf pause, Afghanistan, Libya,

:30:33. > :30:36.back to Iraq and now, as of last night, back over Syria.

:30:37. > :30:40.Thank you very much, Alex Dunlop at RAF locking, Craig Anderson at RAF

:30:41. > :30:48.Lossiemouth and Richard Galpin at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.

:30:49. > :30:55.We'll speak to Lyse Doucet. I spoke to her earlier, she was explaining

:30:56. > :31:01.how President Assad's government's responded to Britain's decision to

:31:02. > :31:06.end the conflict in Syria. President Assad has been absolutely scathing

:31:07. > :31:09.in his criticism of the West's engagement here. Before the British

:31:10. > :31:14.vote, he dismissed the air campaign in saying it hasn't stopped the

:31:15. > :31:18.advance of Islamic state. Now this morning, the state news agency has

:31:19. > :31:24.accused the Prime Minister, David Cameron, of lying, saying they are

:31:25. > :31:27.jumping over, as they put it, international legitimacy in not

:31:28. > :31:31.doing like Russia did in seeking formal permission from the Syrian

:31:32. > :31:35.government to start bombing in Syrian air space. This is what the

:31:36. > :31:38.government's been saying here for some time, that if you would like

:31:39. > :31:43.this campaign to succeed, you have to have one command and at the

:31:44. > :31:46.centre of that command has to be Syrian government forces. In

:31:47. > :31:52.military sense, that makes absolute sense when you go to war, better to

:31:53. > :31:55.have one command with one goal but that's unthinkable for Britain and

:31:56. > :32:05.its allies and for Syrian opposition groups to fight alongside the man

:32:06. > :32:09.they see as the main enemy enemy. It's a reminder of how complex and

:32:10. > :32:15.bloody this battlefield is that Britain is now engaging in.

:32:16. > :32:20.You have been talking to citizens in Damascus, what do they say about yet

:32:21. > :32:26.more bombs being dropped in parts of their country? Remember that this is

:32:27. > :32:33.a country with an absolutely devastating war that is now going

:32:34. > :32:38.into its fifth year that large swathes of this country were

:32:39. > :32:58.absolutely ravaged. Five miles from where I'm standing in the relative

:32:59. > :33:02.centre, but five miles away are neighbourhoods that are totally

:33:03. > :33:07.empty. We asked people what they thought of the possible British air

:33:08. > :33:10.strikes, most didn't register that Britain would become involved but of

:33:11. > :33:13.course they welcome any action against the Islamic state, but

:33:14. > :33:17.that's just one part of a very messy and very bloody war that is going to

:33:18. > :33:22.take a very long time to end. So what they want to know most of all,

:33:23. > :33:26.is that this is going to be an action that will eventually bring

:33:27. > :33:33.this war to an end, not intensify it and make it even worse.

:33:34. > :33:37.Let me bring you this news to do with Oscar Pistorius.

:33:38. > :33:40.An Appeal Court in South-Africa has ruled that the conviction of Oscar

:33:41. > :33:50.Pistorius for culpable homicide should be replaced with murder.

:33:51. > :33:56.Mr Oscar Pistorius will have to go back to court. The Pistorius family

:33:57. > :34:00.say, we have taken note of the judgment that's been handed down by

:34:01. > :34:05.the Supreme Court of Appeal, the legal team will study the finding

:34:06. > :34:08.and we'll be guided by them. We won't comment further at this stage.

:34:09. > :34:12.Alongside the debate about whether to bomb so-called Islamic

:34:13. > :34:15.state yesterday ran one of slightly less importance -

:34:16. > :34:20.There are at least five names for the group - Islamic State, IS, Isis,

:34:21. > :34:26.Until now, David Cameron has insisted on calling the group Isil

:34:27. > :34:30.and criticised those, the BBC included, calling it anything else.

:34:31. > :34:34.But as he urged MPs to back air strikes in Syria yesterday,

:34:35. > :34:43.Mr Cameron changed his mind, saying they should be referred to as Daesh.

:34:44. > :35:13.America's leading the world in the fight to degrade and ultimately

:35:14. > :35:16.destroy the group known as Isil. Isil hasn't come from nowhere, it's

:35:17. > :35:19.not funded by nobody, it doesn't sell its oil to nobody, it doesn't

:35:20. > :35:45.receive its arms from nowhere. Intelligence by MI6 and other

:35:46. > :35:51.agencies has convinced him that some of the attacks are being directed by

:35:52. > :35:55.a hard core of leadership in Syria belonging to so-called Islamic

:35:56. > :36:01.state. I've corresponded with the BBC about their use of "IS", Islamic

:36:02. > :36:06.state which is even worse than either saying so-called IS or indeed

:36:07. > :36:07.Isil, but Daesh is clearly an improvement. I think it's important

:36:08. > :36:33.we all try and use this language. We can speak now with Hassan Hassan,

:36:34. > :36:36.who researches IS for the foreign affairs think-tank Chatham House

:36:37. > :36:39.and calls them Islamic State. And Miqdaad Versi from the

:36:40. > :36:50.Muslim Council of Britain, Good morning, why call them Islamic

:36:51. > :36:55.state? I call them that because they call themselves that. After the Iraq

:36:56. > :36:59.war, the group was established, the previous incarnation of the group

:37:00. > :37:03.was established, it used to be called Al-Qaeda in Iraq, then in

:37:04. > :37:07.200, they changed their name to Islamic state in Iraq, but the

:37:08. > :37:14.Americans kept using the word Al-Qaeda in Iraq for some time.

:37:15. > :37:18.Until the group left Al-Qaeda in 2013 and called itself Islamic state

:37:19. > :37:25.of Iraq and Syria, Isis, that's when the Americans and everyone else

:37:26. > :37:29.started using the word Isil, the acronym, or Isis.

:37:30. > :37:34.I think they have not caught up to the fact that the group has renamed

:37:35. > :37:40.itself, or rebranded itself as Islamic state. They are called

:37:41. > :37:44.Islamic state for the simple reason that they want to counter the

:37:45. > :37:48.tendency to say to not call them Islamic state, just to not

:37:49. > :37:54.legitimize it. I think this idea's misguided. You mean people say don't

:37:55. > :37:57.call it Islamic state because it legitimizes murder and heinous

:37:58. > :38:01.terrorists? Yes. David Cameron's been saying that. I think that's

:38:02. > :38:06.misguided because when you don't call it Islamic state, because you

:38:07. > :38:14.think that Islamic state as an idea is more pure, there's smog better

:38:15. > :38:19.and more ideal about the idea. You are addressing the group itself,

:38:20. > :38:25.rather than the idea and the basically the roots of the idea. I

:38:26. > :38:34.think that is dealing with the group rather than the idea. Miqdad, you go

:38:35. > :38:38.with Daesh, explain why? Daesh for me is for the local population and

:38:39. > :38:43.everyone else in the region, that is what they call it. It comes from

:38:44. > :38:50.Boak haarment and others, it's what the local population call them. They

:38:51. > :38:56.call themselves other things, but nobody calls them that other than

:38:57. > :38:59.than themselves. It's not the fact they call themselves, that's not

:39:00. > :39:04.what other media organisations do, we have to recognise what's become

:39:05. > :39:09.the term that is used in the local population. What is really important

:39:10. > :39:14.is that when it comes to the media here in the UK and how the

:39:15. > :39:19.population perceives this, we recognise, and it's seen from

:39:20. > :39:23.experts who look to Islamophobia, that the terminology in the media

:39:24. > :39:35.plays a role in the formation of the link between Islam and terrorism

:39:36. > :39:41.extremism. Don't you think the audience know what kind of a group

:39:42. > :39:45.they are? People who throw gay people off buildings, behead Western

:39:46. > :39:49.journalists and aid workers and rape women? Of course. Maybe I would have

:39:50. > :39:56.a less worry about this, but the problem is that we have a situation

:39:57. > :40:00.where over a quarter of young children believe Islam and terrorism

:40:01. > :40:05.are linked. Over half the population in the UK believe that Islam is a

:40:06. > :40:10.threat to our civilisation and liberty. These things don'ts happen

:40:11. > :40:14.by themselves, hey happen through this constant link between Islam and

:40:15. > :40:18.extremism. It's right that we need to talk about the issue and the

:40:19. > :40:24.yetteds of whether there should be an Islamic state which some people

:40:25. > :40:27.find important. They should be discussed openly and without any

:40:28. > :40:30.trouble at all. There is a big difference between that and the term

:40:31. > :40:37.used which, when you talk to Al-Qaeda, we don't translate the

:40:38. > :40:41.term, the Taliban, we don't translate, Boko Haram we don't

:40:42. > :40:45.translate. In Arabic, people are divided inside

:40:46. > :40:52.Syria and Iraq over what they call it. Islamic state don't call

:40:53. > :40:56.themselves that, but people who don't see themselves as part of the

:40:57. > :41:01.organisation, they call it something else. Any of those are fine. In

:41:02. > :41:08.English, translating is not normal. OK. Daesh, there is no consensus of

:41:09. > :41:12.the use in Arabic of the word Daesh, some people who don't like the

:41:13. > :41:14.organisation and people also who don't call the organisation also

:41:15. > :41:20.call it something else. Go all right, we are going to leave it

:41:21. > :41:22.there. Thank you. Not sure we are any clearer necessarily but we

:41:23. > :41:35.appreciate your contributions. An Appeal Court in South-Africa has

:41:36. > :41:39.ruled that the conviction of Oscar Pistorius for culpable homicide

:41:40. > :41:41.should be replaced with murder. Mr Oscar Pistorius will have to go

:41:42. > :41:44.back to court. The Pistorius family say, we have taken note of the

:41:45. > :41:47.judgment that's been handed down by the Supreme Court of Appeal, the

:41:48. > :41:50.legal team will study the finding and we'll be guided by them. We

:41:51. > :41:53.won't comment further at this stage. The court heard that mistakes had

:41:54. > :41:56.been made in the first trial of the runner, who shot his girlfriend

:41:57. > :42:04.Reeva Steenkamp in February 2013. The defendant should have been found

:42:05. > :42:09.guilty of murder. On a proper appraisal of the facts, he ought to

:42:10. > :42:13.have been convicted, not of culpable homicide but of murder on that

:42:14. > :42:16.count. In the interests of justice, the conviction and sentence imposed

:42:17. > :42:18.must be set aside and the conviction substituted with a conviction of the

:42:19. > :42:30.correct offence. Let's get more from criminal

:42:31. > :42:34.barrister Mani vest spvp itz who is in Pretoria. Your reaction to the

:42:35. > :42:42.overturning of the murder charge? I think the reaction is very simple. I

:42:43. > :42:46.think it's correct. -- Mannie Witz. It was found that on a question of

:42:47. > :42:50.law, the application of the law in South Africa what you would call

:42:51. > :42:54.second degree murder in the UK was wrongly applied by the judge and

:42:55. > :42:59.it's a question of law and, in terms of our criminal procedure act based

:43:00. > :43:02.on English law with a smatter of Roman Dutch law, they are entitled

:43:03. > :43:06.to substitute the correct conviction baseden a question of law and

:43:07. > :43:09.they'll end up with a further question of law, whether the

:43:10. > :43:13.circumstantial evidence which surrounded the matter, including the

:43:14. > :43:15.blastic evidence given on the reconstruction of the actual scene

:43:16. > :43:21.where the shooting took place should have been taken into account by the

:43:22. > :43:26.learned judge in the trial court which it was felt wasn't correctly

:43:27. > :43:29.done and they have now substituted which they believe that they have

:43:30. > :43:33.concurred is the correct decision. It's been changed from manslaughter

:43:34. > :43:37.or culpable homicide, negligent killing of a human being to murder,

:43:38. > :43:41.as you would call it in the UK, second degree murder, in other words

:43:42. > :43:49.it's not premeditated. Not premeditated? But intending to kill,

:43:50. > :43:53.is that the crucial bit? The crucial bit is that in any law in which we

:43:54. > :43:57.follow the English law in order to murder, you have to have intention,

:43:58. > :44:05.criminal intention. If there's no criminal intention, there's no

:44:06. > :44:08.murder, it can only be a competent manslaughter or culpable homicide

:44:09. > :44:13.conviction. They are confident that the way he acted was intentional and

:44:14. > :44:19.he should have realised that whoever was behind the door, including the

:44:20. > :44:22.late Reeva, that by his actions, he caused the fatal injury as it

:44:23. > :44:26.happened in this particular case. That's intention, one you have got

:44:27. > :44:32.intention it's murder, but it's not premeditated. I understand. It's not

:44:33. > :44:36.murder as us call it. Oscar Pistorius spent a year in jail and

:44:37. > :44:41.is now several years under house arrest for culpable homicide. He now

:44:42. > :44:46.presumably goes back to court for a new sentence? Yes, definitely. Part

:44:47. > :44:54.of the court order was that they referred it back to the trial court,

:44:55. > :44:58.the honourable Judge Musipa. In terms of the legislation, which for

:44:59. > :45:04.a first offender like Oscar Pistorius, is a minimum of 15 years

:45:05. > :45:07.and a maximum of 20, unless you can show compelling circumstances why

:45:08. > :45:12.the could should differ from the minimum sentence, that is the

:45:13. > :45:17.sentence you will get, so probably a minimum of 15. They'll take into

:45:18. > :45:22.account the one year he's already served. He'll get something off for

:45:23. > :45:25.that, minimum of a year and if there are other compelling circumstances,

:45:26. > :45:30.which I believe there are, in regards to his disability and

:45:31. > :45:35.various other parts of mitigation, they might be in a position to

:45:36. > :45:40.reduce the sentence from the minimum of 15 years which our legislation

:45:41. > :45:47.allows for. Thank you very much.

:45:48. > :45:52.Still tocology. As British planes drop bombs on self-styled Islamic

:45:53. > :45:55.state targets in Syria, we'll talk to a former RAF Tornado pilot

:45:56. > :45:58.expecting to carry out future missions. Time for the weather now

:45:59. > :46:12.with Alex. It has been quite mild in the South,

:46:13. > :46:18.but to the north it has been quite chilly. We have got this divisive

:46:19. > :46:21.weather front. Stepping outside this morning, the temperatures do not

:46:22. > :46:25.feel like December in the South. Further north, much colder, down to

:46:26. > :46:31.-3 parts Scotland overnight. Temperatures rising with the help of

:46:32. > :46:37.a bit of sunshine but that boundary, that Waldrom front, is providing

:46:38. > :46:40.some soggy conditions. The rain pushing back into Wales and

:46:41. > :46:43.south-west England later on. Across the Midlands, much of eastern

:46:44. > :46:50.England, staying dry. Staying dry in the far north, but staying cold.

:46:51. > :46:54.Look at the temperature contrast. 13, 14 across the south-east, maybe

:46:55. > :46:58.15 in some sunshine. There will be some snow on the hills in southern

:46:59. > :47:02.Scotland and Northern Ireland, then the wet weather pushes away

:47:03. > :47:05.overnight. Behind it, clear skies, so it will be a much colder night

:47:06. > :47:09.across England and Wales, temperatures widely down to single

:47:10. > :47:13.figures and across the Glens of Scotland there could be a touch of

:47:14. > :47:21.frost. A bright start tomorrow, the many bus a sunny day, a few showers

:47:22. > :47:24.in the far north-west, where the rainwater and persistent later on

:47:25. > :47:28.and the breeze will pick up, too, but for many a fine day. Still a big

:47:29. > :47:33.temperature contrast, the cooler, fresher feel across England and

:47:34. > :47:36.Wales but still above average. We will see some lively weather on

:47:37. > :47:41.Friday night, getting very windy indeed for the start of the weekend,

:47:42. > :47:42.and there will be spousal rain as well, but it won't rain all weekend.

:47:43. > :47:47.But it will be blustery on Saturday. It's Thursday, just after 10am,

:47:48. > :47:49.I'm Victoria Derbyshire. This morning:

:47:50. > :47:58.British warplanes have already They set off from their base

:47:59. > :48:02.in Cyprus only hours after MPs voted by a majority

:48:03. > :48:15.of 174 to back the action. I don't rest easy with the decision

:48:16. > :48:19.that has been made because I have to think of people who are in Syria and

:48:20. > :48:25.people who now have to live with the consequences of those decisions. It

:48:26. > :48:29.was a huge burden yesterday and actually I would not say there were

:48:30. > :48:31.thousands of relief. I was comfortable with the outcome.

:48:32. > :48:34.A South African judge rules that Oscar Pistorius should have been

:48:35. > :48:52.convicted of murder, not culpable homicide, because he had fired the

:48:53. > :48:57.fatal shots that killed his girlfriend with criminal intent.

:48:58. > :49:00.The matter is referred back to the court in the light of these

:49:01. > :49:02.comments. Plus, yet another mass shooting

:49:03. > :49:05.in the United States - this time at a health centre for disabled people

:49:06. > :49:22.in California, where at least There was a shooter in the

:49:23. > :49:26.building, and they ran into a room and locked the door. I told her,

:49:27. > :49:30.turn off the lights, and I haven't tried to call her... I didn't want

:49:31. > :49:36.the phone ringing. Britain has carried out

:49:37. > :49:42.its first air strikes in Syria, just hours after MPs voted

:49:43. > :49:58.in favour of military action. Jets set off from the British base

:49:59. > :50:00.in Cyprus, targeting so-called Islamic State

:50:01. > :50:03.targets in the east of the country. The jets dropped 500lb laser-guided

:50:04. > :50:05.bombs on oil fields The Defence Secretary Michael Fallon

:50:06. > :50:07.said I can confirm that four British

:50:08. > :50:18.Tornadoes were in action after the vote last night, attacking oilfields

:50:19. > :50:26.in eastern Syria. Attacking oil wellheads and helping

:50:27. > :50:28.to disrupt the flow of revenue that diets get from the flow of oil.

:50:29. > :50:31.The Government won the vote comfortably with with a majority

:50:32. > :50:34.More than 60 Labour MPs backed the Government in last night's

:50:35. > :50:39.Commons vote, including Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn.

:50:40. > :50:43.It is now time for us to do our bit in Syria,

:50:44. > :50:51.which is why I ask my colleagues to vote for this motion tonight.

:50:52. > :50:53.14 people have been killed in a mass shooting at

:50:54. > :51:01.The attackers, a woman and a man in their 20s, were shot dead by police.

:51:02. > :51:04.It is the deadliest attack in the US since a school shooting

:51:05. > :51:16.Oscar Pistorius has been found guilty of murdering his girlfriend

:51:17. > :51:19.The decision by South Africa's Supreme Court overturns a previous

:51:20. > :51:27.The judge said he had fired the fatal shots with criminal intent.

:51:28. > :51:35.Guilty of murder with the accused having had criminal intent in the

:51:36. > :51:39.form of dolus eventualis. The matter is referred back to the trial court

:51:40. > :51:41.to consider an appropriate sentence afresh in light of the comments in

:51:42. > :51:47.this judgment. Let's catch up with all

:51:48. > :51:54.the sport now. Arrests at Fifa make

:51:55. > :51:56.the headlines once more. Two "high-ranking" Fifa officials

:51:57. > :52:00.taken by Swiss authorities on suspicion of accepting 'millions

:52:01. > :52:04.of dollars' worth of bribes.' Our sports news correspondent

:52:05. > :52:14.Richard Conway is Swiss authorities have confirmed two

:52:15. > :52:17.arrests were made at this hotel, where a number of Fifa officials

:52:18. > :52:20.were arrested back in May this year. They have not been

:52:21. > :52:27.were arrested back in May this yet, the two people taken this

:52:28. > :52:31.morning, but unconfirmed reports named them as two senior figures in

:52:32. > :52:36.South America, Central American football, significantly men who are

:52:37. > :52:40.Fifa vice president that have been arrested by the Swiss authorities on

:52:41. > :52:44.behalf of those US prosecutors. We will get more information on this

:52:45. > :52:48.later today, however senior the first sources told me that as many

:52:49. > :52:56.as 16 people could be indicted today, names could be revealed later

:52:57. > :52:57.wins the US authorities are prepared to release the information.

:52:58. > :53:00.And some news we have just receieved from Zurich - Fifa's executive

:53:01. > :53:02.committee will debate a proposal to expand the World Cup

:53:03. > :53:08.They wouldn't require votes from the 209 member countries and it could be

:53:09. > :53:14.From Switzerland to India now, and Great Britain's men's hockey team

:53:15. > :53:21.They are competing in the World League finals, and have already

:53:22. > :53:24.beaten the world's best side, Australia, in the group stages.

:53:25. > :53:27.Our Olympic sports reporter David McDaid is there ahead of their

:53:28. > :53:37.Great Britain already have reason to be pleased with their weak's work

:53:38. > :53:44.here, with two wins and a draw taking them through to the quarter

:53:45. > :53:48.finals as the poor winners. They beat Australia, the world champions

:53:49. > :53:51.and the world number ones. Later today, they face hosts India. India

:53:52. > :53:55.have had a different week to the Brits, only picking a 1 point from

:53:56. > :54:01.three matches but tonight here they will be roared on by 4000 passionate

:54:02. > :54:05.local fans. Here are the thoughts of both camps. They play attacking

:54:06. > :54:09.hockey, they have a lot of skilful players. What we hope to do is take

:54:10. > :54:13.the game to them. They are a good side, they have a lot of players. It

:54:14. > :54:18.will be top. They have beaten Australia with a good margin so it

:54:19. > :54:22.will be a tough game for us, but we're really happy that we're in the

:54:23. > :54:24.quarterfinals and have it has to be in the semifinals. We are looking

:54:25. > :54:28.forward to it. If Great Britain can come through

:54:29. > :54:32.against the Indians later on, they will play either Argentina or

:54:33. > :54:32.Belgium for a place in Sunday's final.

:54:33. > :54:34.Best of to Great Britain. That's all the sport for now

:54:35. > :54:37.but we'll have the League Cup and some big rugby news for you

:54:38. > :54:50.at around 10.30am. Thank you for all of your reaction

:54:51. > :54:56.to the fact that British planes are involved in military action in Syria

:54:57. > :55:00.on IS targets. This tweet: Where was all the opposition last year to the

:55:01. > :55:04.bombing of bias in Iraq? This from Tony: Here we go, the war

:55:05. > :55:10.movie complete with slow motion replay, bomb by bomb analysis and

:55:11. > :55:14.fourth umpire decision review. This from Charles: I watched the

:55:15. > :55:18.entire debate yesterday and whilst I had no wish to see further military

:55:19. > :55:22.action I was persuaded by the 'yes' lobby and particularly the wonderful

:55:23. > :55:25.and sincere speech made by the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary

:55:26. > :55:29.Benn. We must take the fight to them, not sit and wait for the fight

:55:30. > :55:33.to come to our streets. The 'no' lobby failed to convince me that

:55:34. > :55:37.they had a coherent alternative strategy. I support the SNP but I

:55:38. > :55:45.have to say I am disappointed by their stance. Have they forgotten

:55:46. > :55:55.the attack on Glasgow airports so soon?

:55:56. > :55:58.Isis are a threat to our country, our pilots are the best in the

:55:59. > :56:02.world, stay safe. One says, what would those people

:56:03. > :56:06.say to the families of aid workers and journalists tortured and

:56:07. > :56:11.beheaded by the ruthless IS Kers also the Syrian girls used as sex

:56:12. > :56:17.slaves, the old women and gay people murdered at the hands of IS? And

:56:18. > :56:22.Danny, I am not a Conservative voter but I gladly support air strikes.

:56:23. > :56:26.This evil has to be eradicated. If Jeremy Corbyn was Prime Minister, he

:56:27. > :56:29.would gladly let Isis do as they please.

:56:30. > :56:31.Thank you for those, keep them coming in.

:56:32. > :56:35.The news overnight is that British games have dropped bombs on Islamic

:56:36. > :56:41.State target in Syria and are now back at their base in Cyprus. It

:56:42. > :56:43.happened within hours of MPs voting to extend British military

:56:44. > :56:46.involvement to Serbia. What impact could the British air

:56:47. > :56:52.strikes have on the fight against IS? Christian Fraser has been

:56:53. > :56:57.looking at this. A lot of the focus is today was on

:56:58. > :57:01.Syria, but it is worth remembering so-called Islamic state is no

:57:02. > :57:04.respect of international borders, so their control and leadership is as

:57:05. > :57:06.much but it is worth remembering so-called Islamic state is no

:57:07. > :57:11.respect of international borders, so their control and leadership is as

:57:12. > :57:15.much focused. That is why over the last year also 8000 air strikes in

:57:16. > :57:20.all, twice as many, have been focused in Iraq as Syria, all the

:57:21. > :57:35.way to November. Let me show you the map for a second, we will go in some

:57:36. > :57:37.closer detail. The areas they have been focusing on, this corridor here

:57:38. > :57:40.from IS headquarters in Raqqa along this mean arterial route through the

:57:41. > :57:42.biggest city in the east of the city down to what we call the Sunni

:57:43. > :57:47.Triangle where the Shia led militias are trying to get a foothold. To

:57:48. > :57:51.remind you of what went on overnight, we know the plane set off

:57:52. > :57:55.from over year, Cyprus, from Akrotiri. The bombs that were

:57:56. > :57:58.dropped, as the Defence Secretary was saying, the Omagh oilfield here,

:57:59. > :58:04.the installations from which Islamic State have been profiting. Let's

:58:05. > :58:08.just have a look again, though, at this bomb pattern that I was talking

:58:09. > :58:12.about. You will see where they have been dropped, I have put them in

:58:13. > :58:15.blue circles. Hilary Benn quite elegantly was saying last night that

:58:16. > :58:19.air strikes alone will not change the picture on the ground, and that

:58:20. > :58:22.is true, but what they do is stop Islamic State from amassing hardware

:58:23. > :58:26.and troop build-up in areas where they could take new ground, so they

:58:27. > :58:32.stop them from going to Baghdad, this stop them from going to a town

:58:33. > :58:37.in the north of the country, they have been influential in doing that.

:58:38. > :58:40.If I show you this purple band here, this is the Kurds. If I showed you

:58:41. > :58:45.that a year ago it would do differently, so they have been able

:58:46. > :58:50.to take back control of some areas. Let's have a look at the targets.

:58:51. > :58:54.Many of the targets are fixed, the oil infrastructure which they are

:58:55. > :58:58.increasingly hitting, but also buildings, fighting positions,

:58:59. > :59:03.artillery positions on the ground. These targets are becoming fewer and

:59:04. > :59:05.farther between. A military analyst from the Royal United Services

:59:06. > :59:11.Institute has been telling me that the battle on the ground is

:59:12. > :59:15.changing. Those big, obvious area targets that

:59:16. > :59:19.can be preplanned before a fight, go out and hit this specifically, those

:59:20. > :59:24.have been hit. But in terms of forces on the ground that we can

:59:25. > :59:27.usefully in support of Turkish fighters and Free Syrian Army, there

:59:28. > :59:34.is definitely stuff there but it is harder to find. More dispersed, the

:59:35. > :59:39.RAF hugely effective at surveillance and picking up targets like this,

:59:40. > :59:46.this was a building being used by IS fighters in Ramadi. A drone involved

:59:47. > :59:50.in this particular occasion and the Paveway bomb that. There, a smaller

:59:51. > :59:53.munition than the ones the Americans are using, highly accurate,

:59:54. > :59:57.laser-guided so long as you pick the right target, of course. Just

:59:58. > :00:02.returning to the maps, the big questions on the lives of everyone

:00:03. > :00:07.yesterday, who is going to take control of Syria? It looks like a

:00:08. > :00:11.big paint job, it shows you how congested the battlefield is at the

:00:12. > :00:22.moment. Among the 70,000 moderate troops to which the Prime Minister

:00:23. > :00:25.referred, the Kurds, the so-called free Syrian forces and a lot of

:00:26. > :00:27.other smaller groups as well, often aligned to more extreme elements

:00:28. > :00:30.which are dominant, they have to be in this area in order to survive,

:00:31. > :00:33.and their main target is President Assad. Still an awful lot of work to

:00:34. > :00:35.do in Syria to find anything approaching a chord and their main

:00:36. > :00:38.target is President Assad. Still an awful lot of work to do in Syria to

:00:39. > :00:42.find anything approaching a, Christian.

:00:43. > :00:44.Jonathan Beale, our defence correspondent has been speaking

:00:45. > :00:51.to an RAF Tornado pilot, who's now expecting to fly over Syria.

:00:52. > :00:53.Talking ahead of yesterday's vote, the pilot said

:00:54. > :00:56.he didn't feel missions in Syrian airspace would be any more dangerous

:00:57. > :01:09.You've flown over Iraq. What do you think the differences will be flying

:01:10. > :01:13.combat missions over Syria? For myself as a tornado pilot, I feel

:01:14. > :01:17.like flying the tornado and moving to Syria will be doing the mission

:01:18. > :01:25.we are all trained to do, so in some respects, it will be no different.

:01:26. > :01:31.We do know that Syria has Russian aircraft there flying, it was

:01:32. > :01:34.recently Russian aircraft was downed, there are surface-to-air

:01:35. > :01:42.missiles, it's more dangerous isn't it? We have coordination measures in

:01:43. > :01:45.place in Syria, so if we were to go into Syria, I don't have any

:01:46. > :01:51.concerns about operating in Syrian air space. There are bigger threats

:01:52. > :01:57.there? Certainly threats there from Isis, we see that threat and operate

:01:58. > :02:03.with that threat in Iraq. The same threat as Syria. We have our own

:02:04. > :02:05.capabilities and tactics and techniques and procedures to

:02:06. > :02:08.minimise that threat to ourselves. Do you think you could make a

:02:09. > :02:12.difference on the ground? People are talking about this being a token

:02:13. > :02:17.evident essentially from the UK? We can absolutely make a difference.

:02:18. > :02:20.The tornado itself might be a slightly old platform but it's

:02:21. > :02:28.absolutely up-to-date with the capabilities it has. Some unique

:02:29. > :02:31.capabilities we bring to the operation, such as Brimstone,

:02:32. > :02:35.reconnaissance pod, absolutely up-to-date cutting edge platforms in

:02:36. > :02:41.terms of their capabilities. Very last question, when you are flying a

:02:42. > :02:44.mission, what is it like knowing that you are flying a combat

:02:45. > :02:48.mission, what do you think it would be like flying over Syria in a

:02:49. > :02:54.combat mission, just a sense of what it's like for you as a pilot knowing

:02:55. > :02:58.that you are targeting the enemy? Of course, it's serious, we take it

:02:59. > :03:02.very seriously, it's something that I've done a number of combat

:03:03. > :03:06.missions in a number of different theatres and I don't think myself

:03:07. > :03:10.I'll treat it any differently other than at the highest levels of

:03:11. > :03:14.professionalism possible, concentrating on the task and job we

:03:15. > :03:17.have been given. You will be more worried that it's over Syria that

:03:18. > :03:23.you are dealing with these missions? Absolutely not, no.

:03:24. > :03:25.Joining us now from Westminster is the

:03:26. > :03:29.He voted with his leader Jeremy Corbyn and

:03:30. > :03:32.against air strikes, unlike 11 of his shadow cabinet colleagues,

:03:33. > :03:41.What do you think of their colleagues? They voted in the athey

:03:42. > :03:47.wanted to with their conscience. That's why I called for a free vote.

:03:48. > :03:50.People will remember in Iraq all those years ago, the fact that you

:03:51. > :03:53.can party political decisions mixed in the vote seems to be wrong,

:03:54. > :03:57.whether you are going to back the leader or not. In matters of War and

:03:58. > :04:01.Peace, putting British troops in harm's way, it should be an MP's

:04:02. > :04:05.conscience and nothing else that decides that decision. I think

:04:06. > :04:07.people can have a high degree of confidence in the decisions that MPs

:04:08. > :04:14.reached last night because, on our side at least, that was purely in

:04:15. > :04:18.accordance with what they thought was the right thing to do. Do you

:04:19. > :04:22.not acknowledge that your leader failed to convince so many of your

:04:23. > :04:26.colleagues, almost a third of the Parliamentary party? Do you know, I

:04:27. > :04:29.think this issue really divides families and splits the country,

:04:30. > :04:35.it's a very split decision. I found that myself as I was weighing it up

:04:36. > :04:39.over the weeks running up to it. Very close decision, much harder in

:04:40. > :04:44.many ways than any other I've taken in Parliament and I think people

:04:45. > :04:47.have come down on either side of the lain. I don't think it's a bad thing

:04:48. > :04:52.that there's a difference of views within our party, but also within

:04:53. > :04:55.other parties in Parliament. I looked very carefully at what the

:04:56. > :05:00.Prime Minister was saying. I think you have to be as sure as you can be

:05:01. > :05:04.before you vote for military action. I just had too many doubts when it

:05:05. > :05:08.came to the vote last night, that's why I voted against.

:05:09. > :05:15.What swung it for you in the end then in terms of the doubts?

:05:16. > :05:21.I do think back to Iraq... Just remind us which way you voted for

:05:22. > :05:25.Iraq? I voted for. I've agonised about that decision ever since. Many

:05:26. > :05:28.in many ways, I can justify the original decision I took. What I

:05:29. > :05:35.can't justify is the lack of a plan for the aftermath. I was horrified

:05:36. > :05:39.as the chaos began to unfold in Iraq in years after the invasion. I

:05:40. > :05:44.applied that test to this vote. Was there a clear plan for Syria, for

:05:45. > :05:48.the aftermath? I couldn't see it. You know, the graphics you were just

:05:49. > :05:54.showing a moment ago kind of make the point - Syria is such a

:05:55. > :05:56.complicated situation right now. I didn't hear from the Prime Minister

:05:57. > :06:00.clarity about what was going to happen on the ground to those areas

:06:01. > :06:04.that were bombed, which troops would move in and secure it, I didn't hear

:06:05. > :06:09.the answers. That was the main reason why there were others too,

:06:10. > :06:13.but that was the main reason why I couldn't give my support to the air

:06:14. > :06:16.strikes last night. Some might say that because you voted against air

:06:17. > :06:19.strikes is alongside your leader Jeremy Corbyn, at least you won't

:06:20. > :06:22.get bullied by colleagues in your party for coming to a decision

:06:23. > :06:27.that's opposite what the leader wanted?

:06:28. > :06:31.It's outrageous that anybody should be bullied... Why isn't Mr Corbyn

:06:32. > :06:37.clamping down on it then? He has said something. I know how it feels

:06:38. > :06:41.because I voted for military action on a number of occasions. I promise

:06:42. > :06:45.you, it's the hardest thing you ever do in Parliament, it genuinely is.

:06:46. > :06:48.People agonise about it then go over and over it in the days after the

:06:49. > :06:52.vote and that will be happening today, MPs will be feeling like that

:06:53. > :06:57.today, that's how they'll be, feeling pretty down I guess some of

:06:58. > :07:01.them because nobody, nobody takes any relish in doing what's been

:07:02. > :07:04.done. I would ask people who're sending comments in just to think

:07:05. > :07:08.about that, these are decent people, they have done the right thing, as

:07:09. > :07:14.they saw it at the time, and they deserve a bit more respect than they

:07:15. > :07:18.sometimes get. People like Anne Coffee saying we are going to

:07:19. > :07:23.campaign from your e-mail selection coming from a group called Momentum

:07:24. > :07:26.which very much backs Jeremy Corbyn? It makes me sad about the current

:07:27. > :07:32.state of the Labour Party that people think they can treat somebody

:07:33. > :07:36.of that long-standing and experience in Parliament like Anne, could treat

:07:37. > :07:40.her in that way. She's served Stockport, her constituents, our

:07:41. > :07:42.party for many years, with distinction. People need to have a

:07:43. > :07:46.look at themselves before they think they can go around throwing threats

:07:47. > :07:50.at people like that. What should Jeremy Corbyn do? There's been a

:07:51. > :07:53.divisive situation, hasn't there, people have voted different ways. In

:07:54. > :07:56.the end, the right decision was taken. I'm asking you what the

:07:57. > :08:02.leader should do about the bullying of your colleagues? A firm line

:08:03. > :08:05.needs to be taken, a code of conduct around social media, there cannot be

:08:06. > :08:08.abuse of Members of Parliament by members of the Labour Party or

:08:09. > :08:13.supporters of the Labour Party. That isn't the kindparty I want to be in.

:08:14. > :08:17.It's not just on social media is it, another colleague of yours has

:08:18. > :08:23.people hassling her office staff? Staff?! Well, I know, that's just

:08:24. > :08:28.completely indefensible. We are many the public eye and we take those

:08:29. > :08:34.decisions and we have to be held accountable for them, absolutely, I

:08:35. > :08:40.fully and completely ex-that, but do it with respect -- expect that, but

:08:41. > :08:45.do it with respect. With the leader contest test in the summer it was

:08:46. > :08:50.the same, people are being put off going into it at all at local and

:08:51. > :08:53.councillor level. If you are sitting with a keyboard, you can be more

:08:54. > :08:57.offensive than you are if you are speaking to somebody face-to-face

:08:58. > :09:03.and it's a bad culture. We need to draw a line under it. So Jeremy

:09:04. > :09:06.Corbyn should introdues a code of conduct? I would say so. If there is

:09:07. > :09:09.evidence that people are abusive to colleagues in the Labour Party,

:09:10. > :09:14.there should be no tolerance of that whatsoever, in my view. Thank you

:09:15. > :09:18.very much. Can I just say before I left, how much I admire the work you

:09:19. > :09:21.have done to give courage to other cancer patients, you know, it really

:09:22. > :09:22.is a fantastic thing that you have been doing, I just wanted to say

:09:23. > :09:37.that. Thank you very much and thank you

:09:38. > :09:43.for talking to us. It's worth remembering who are

:09:44. > :09:49.involved, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Qatar are involved, countries like

:09:50. > :09:51.Italy who've given machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades,

:09:52. > :09:55.ammunition and humanitarian aid. Andrew Brookes, a former RAF pilot

:09:56. > :09:59.with 30 years experience and a former US Air Force special pilot,

:10:00. > :10:05.Nolan Peterson who's been involved in air strikes and Iraq and

:10:06. > :10:11.Afghanistan previously and Kinder Haddard from the group Air Wars,

:10:12. > :10:15.monitoring casualties in Syria. Andrew Brookes, four British planes

:10:16. > :10:20.involved so far, targeting oil fields under the control of IS, what

:10:21. > :10:24.is your reaction? It's part of a team, as you said. The question does

:10:25. > :10:29.it make a difference, we'll have to see. There's always been a theory

:10:30. > :10:33.that there are panacea targets, if you just take something out, the

:10:34. > :10:36.whole machine falls apart. Oil is a classic but if it worked the

:10:37. > :10:40.Americans would have done it years ago. The fact they have been bombing

:10:41. > :10:44.more than us and haven't closed the air down doesn't give me a warm

:10:45. > :10:47.fuzzy feeling that a few extra bombs from us will shut down that

:10:48. > :10:50.particular facility. On that point then, why do you think the Americans

:10:51. > :10:55.haven't taken out those oil fields so far? It's very difficult. People

:10:56. > :10:59.think, you know, you're used to playing Star Wars on your computer

:11:00. > :11:04.and everything, it all works. These things are massive. To get the right

:11:05. > :11:06.pinpoint, the right bottleneck, is incredibly difficult a thing to do.

:11:07. > :11:12.The Americans have the technology to do that? You say that, it's

:11:13. > :11:16.intelligence-based. At the end of the day, people don't want to take

:11:17. > :11:20.over a desert. You want to leave something there that, if you like,

:11:21. > :11:26.the good guys can take over. They want to take over a going state.

:11:27. > :11:30.Whoever wins this, they want to be up and running very quickly. If you

:11:31. > :11:36.give them a wasteland, you haven't really given anybody a chance to

:11:37. > :11:39.post Assad to create a new Syria. Nolan Peterson, you have flown many

:11:40. > :11:44.of the missions and have been involved in air strikes in Iraq and

:11:45. > :11:49.Afghanistan. Can you give our audience an insight into what it's

:11:50. > :11:56.like flying one of those jets? I think the greatest concern for my

:11:57. > :12:00.pilot obviously is to limit civilian casualties, but the unique nature of

:12:01. > :12:03.the wash in Syria and Iraq right now is that the battlefield is so

:12:04. > :12:06.complicated and there are so many different elements on the ground

:12:07. > :12:12.that it's tough for pilots to know who is good and who is bad. For

:12:13. > :12:18.example, in Syria, you have the forces of the regime of Bashar Assad

:12:19. > :12:23.on the ground next to the Free Syrian Army and Isis. So it's tough

:12:24. > :12:27.for pilots to know exactly who the elements on the ground are without

:12:28. > :12:31.our own troops there to tell us what we are shooting at.

:12:32. > :12:37.So as a pilot then in the scenario that we are seeing now in Syria, how

:12:38. > :12:42.do you get the right intelligence, or is it inevitable that mistakes

:12:43. > :12:44.are going to be made? Unfortunately, it's probably inevitable that

:12:45. > :12:50.mistakes will be made. Normally, you have a lot of different meetings to

:12:51. > :12:54.tell who is on the ground and Iraq and Afghanistan, when I flew, we had

:12:55. > :13:02.technology like blue force tracking where we'd have a Google map-type

:13:03. > :13:10.map that would show us where friendly units were with icons so we

:13:11. > :13:19.could verify where people were. We don't have that in Syria and Iraq.

:13:20. > :13:25.We have another system to tell us. Looking at patterns of life and the

:13:26. > :13:31.behaviour of the infrared images, that is how we decide whether we are

:13:32. > :13:39.shooting at the good or bad guys. How many civilians have been killed

:13:40. > :13:44.by coalition air strikes in Iraq so far in Syria? Over the last 15

:13:45. > :13:57.months, there's been at least we think a minimum of 700 in Iraq and

:13:58. > :14:02.Sir. -- Syria. We collate all this information from the ground, press

:14:03. > :14:09.reports, recorder, Twitter and Facebook, YouTube, as well as daily

:14:10. > :14:13.reports saying where and when they have bombed. How do you know they

:14:14. > :14:18.are civilians, as opposed to extremists for example? The casualty

:14:19. > :14:21.recorders on the ground often have people who interview casualties and

:14:22. > :14:30.we know about Syria in particular, about 300 of them, we have names,

:14:31. > :14:36.ages and what they did, where they lived and just under half are women

:14:37. > :14:40.and children. The thing is, Daesh is in civilian centres, so the target

:14:41. > :14:43.could be an IS headquarters, for example, but it's inevitable that

:14:44. > :14:48.you are going to destroy some of the houses around or passers-by. You

:14:49. > :14:52.might get faulty intelligence or civilians might go into a different

:14:53. > :14:58.zone after the bomb has been dropped, so it's just impossible not

:14:59. > :15:03.to have civilian casualties even though we have precise weaponry.

:15:04. > :15:10.Because we have precise weaponry, we have less casualties than the

:15:11. > :15:15.Russians or the Assad regime. Figures have been published and

:15:16. > :15:21.whereas Assad killed 1,000 civilians, the Russians killed 260

:15:22. > :15:26.and the regime killed 13. Some events are bigger. We have had 64

:15:27. > :15:31.people being killed in one go because they have targeted a weapons

:15:32. > :15:32.depot. That explodes and causes secondary explosions. Thank you very

:15:33. > :15:48.much. Thank you for your messages about

:15:49. > :15:51.what IS should be called. E-mail from Martin says I think the BBC

:15:52. > :15:55.should carry on calling them IS and not bow to David Cameron, everyone

:15:56. > :16:01.in Britain knows them as IS. This e-mail from John, I find it amusing,

:16:02. > :16:05.all this talk about what to call this bunch of murderers, it's

:16:06. > :16:11.political correctness gone mad, a good old English word everyone would

:16:12. > :16:18.understand, they should be known as "scum" it is everything they stand

:16:19. > :16:22.for. By calling IS their name of choice, we give them power, we

:16:23. > :16:28.should call them Daesh, not only is it an acronym of their true name but

:16:29. > :16:30.it's also an insult to their ears, calling them Daesh kills two birds

:16:31. > :16:35.with one stone. Yesterday we reported on

:16:36. > :16:41.the 50-year-old woman who rejected life-saving kidney treatment

:16:42. > :16:43.because she felt she'd "lost her Our legal affairs correspondent

:16:44. > :16:52.Clive Coleman is back Remind us of this sad case you

:16:53. > :16:56.reported on yesterday? It is a desperately sad case about a

:16:57. > :17:01.woman who lived a life of sparkle, a champagne lifestyle, if you like, a

:17:02. > :17:04.woman who had four husbands, affairs, her life, these are the

:17:05. > :17:09.words of her daughter, revolved around her looks, men, material

:17:10. > :17:13.possessions. In recent times she was diagnosed with breast cancer, she

:17:14. > :17:17.had not wanted treatment for that because she thought it would make

:17:18. > :17:31.her fact, she had also had a long-term relationship that had

:17:32. > :17:34.fallen apart, she had fallen into debt. As a result of that she'd try

:17:35. > :17:36.to take her own life, she took 16 paracetamol tablets which were

:17:37. > :17:38.washed down with some champagne. That damaged her organs and as a

:17:39. > :17:40.result of that she needed life-saving kidney dialysis

:17:41. > :17:43.treatment. She didn't want it because she did not want to grow

:17:44. > :17:48.old, she said she did not want to be old, poor and ugly. There was a

:17:49. > :17:52.hearing in November, mid-November, in which the trust that were

:17:53. > :17:56.treating her, the hospital trust, wanted to have the Court of

:17:57. > :17:59.protection, which makes decision for people who do not have mental

:18:00. > :18:03.capacity, to order that she had the treatment against her wishes. The

:18:04. > :18:08.judge, in an incredibly difficult case, had to listen to the evidence

:18:09. > :18:12.of psychiatrists and, critically, listen to the evidence of the

:18:13. > :18:15.woman's daughters, who gave evidence that she simply didn't want to

:18:16. > :18:22.continue to live a life where she got she was going to be old and

:18:23. > :18:26.ugly. The judge made an order, refused the application by the

:18:27. > :18:30.hospital, that happened in mid-November. She died Barbie sadly

:18:31. > :18:35.on Saturday but it was only actually on Monday that we became aware of

:18:36. > :18:38.the judgment, the judge published the full judgment, which is why

:18:39. > :18:43.there is a slightly cheery chronology.

:18:44. > :18:46.Thank you. -- slightly curious chronology.

:18:47. > :18:50.The political fallout from the the decision by parliament

:18:51. > :18:53.to back British air strikes against Islamic State militants in Syria.

:18:54. > :18:59.And as an appeals court in South Africa convicts the

:19:00. > :19:02.Oscar Pistorius of murder, we'll bring you the latest reaction

:19:03. > :19:08.Britain has carried out its first air strikes in Syria,

:19:09. > :19:11.just hours after MPs voted in favour of military action.

:19:12. > :19:15.Jets set off from the British base in Cyprus.

:19:16. > :19:18.They targetted Islamic State group targets in the east of the country.

:19:19. > :19:21.The jets dropped 500lb laser-guided bombs on oil fields

:19:22. > :19:25.The Defence Secretary Michael Fallon backing said

:19:26. > :19:36.I can confirm, first of all, that four British Tornado were involved

:19:37. > :19:40.in strikes in the early hours of this morning in the eastern oilfield

:19:41. > :19:46.in Syria, specifically the Omagh oilfield, attacking oil wellheads

:19:47. > :19:47.there, hoping to disrupt the flow of oil and the revenue that the

:19:48. > :19:50.Bayerische terrorists gain from oil. The Government won

:19:51. > :19:52.the vote comfortably with a majority More than 60 Labour MPs backed the

:19:53. > :20:15.Government vote, including Shadow Whether you are

:20:16. > :20:20.or not is not important. In matters of war and Besic had been the MP's

:20:21. > :20:23.conscience and nothing else that makes the decision. People can have

:20:24. > :20:27.a high degree of confidence in the decisions MPs reached last night,

:20:28. > :20:30.because, on our side at least, it was purely in accordance with what

:20:31. > :20:31.they thought was the right thing to do.

:20:32. > :20:34.14 people have been killed in a mass shooting at

:20:35. > :20:39.The attackers, a woman and a man in their 20s, were shot dead by police.

:20:40. > :20:41.It is the deadliest attack in the US since a school shooting

:20:42. > :20:47.Oscar Pistorius has been found guilty of murdering his girlfriend

:20:48. > :20:53.The decision by South Africa's Supreme Court overturns a previous

:20:54. > :21:02.The judge said he had fired the fatal shots with criminal intent.

:21:03. > :21:04.Guilty of murder, with the accused having had criminal intent

:21:05. > :21:12.The matter is referred back to the trial court to consider an

:21:13. > :21:20.appropriate sentence afresh in light of the comments in this judgment.

:21:21. > :21:23.There's other headlines come here is the sport.

:21:24. > :21:27.The main stories in sport this morning

:21:28. > :21:31.Swiss Aurthorities say they've take two 'high-ranking' Fifa officials

:21:32. > :21:45.They'll be discussing whether to expand the World Cup

:21:46. > :21:53.A great night for Liverpool, and the club's strikers especially -

:21:54. > :21:56.Divock Origi scored a hat-trick and Daniel Sturridge added two in their

:21:57. > :22:01.England fans might be wishing the RFU took a little longer

:22:02. > :22:05.Heyneke Meyer has stepped down as South Africa's head coach with

:22:06. > :22:07.immediate effect after leading the Springboks to

:22:08. > :22:10.And Great Britain's men are facing hosts India in the last eight

:22:11. > :22:13.of hockey's World League Finals this afternoon - they were unbeaten

:22:14. > :22:20.It could be a big day for them. We will have more sport including the

:22:21. > :22:22.latest from the UK study championship on BBC news throughout

:22:23. > :22:26.the day. Thank you. The vote that air strikes

:22:27. > :22:31.in Syria followed a ten hour debate on the right and wrong is of

:22:32. > :22:33.military action. Towards the end a powerful speech by the Shadow

:22:34. > :22:41.Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn was applauded by all sides of the house.

:22:42. > :22:47.Let's have a look. What is the reaction to the vote

:22:48. > :22:57.last night? Good morning. Do you have any reaction to the vote? I did

:22:58. > :23:00.not ask you to be here. Clearly that was Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour

:23:01. > :23:03.leader, reacting this morning as he left his home. I think we can hear

:23:04. > :23:09.Hilary Benn now in the Commons yesterday.

:23:10. > :23:13.Hopefully! Maybe not. Let's talk to Norman Smith instead, our political

:23:14. > :23:19.Guru at Westminster. Let's talk about Hilary Benn's speech, so many

:23:20. > :23:23.people were commenting on what a brilliant speech it was, and one of

:23:24. > :23:27.the best beaches in parliament ever. Explain to those who did not hear it

:23:28. > :23:32.what it contained? It is a shame we could not hear it,

:23:33. > :23:36.maybe we can in a few minutes. It was an amazing speech by him,

:23:37. > :23:40.because it was a moment when he held Parliament in his hands. The whole

:23:41. > :23:45.place was absolutely silent, gripped by what he had to say, not because

:23:46. > :23:49.it was a barnstorming rhetorical toured of course, it was because of

:23:50. > :23:54.the clarity of his arguments, the moral conviction with which he

:23:55. > :23:59.expressed them, and the scent of his own personal integrity which came

:24:00. > :24:03.across. But there was another reason, because it was also, I

:24:04. > :24:07.thought, a brave speech, a speech in which he basically confronted his

:24:08. > :24:12.own party and his own leader. Not in an abusive tone, but in which he

:24:13. > :24:17.laid down a direct challenge, saying to his party, look, we are an

:24:18. > :24:23.internationalist party, we cannot simply walk on by. We helped to

:24:24. > :24:36.found the United Nations, our sister Socialist party in France has

:24:37. > :24:38.appealed for our help, and, above all, Labour has always stood up

:24:39. > :24:41.against fascism, whether it was General Franco in Spain in the

:24:42. > :24:44.1930s, or Hitler's Nazis. You got a sense that he changed the mood in

:24:45. > :24:48.the house and some of those who were undecided actually came behind him

:24:49. > :24:55.because of his speech. I think we can now hear a bit of what he said.

:24:56. > :24:58.Socialist and trade unionists and others joined the International

:24:59. > :25:04.Brigade in the 1930s to fight against General Franco. It is why

:25:05. > :25:09.this entire house stood up against Hitler and Mussolini. It is why our

:25:10. > :25:15.party has always stood up against the denial of human rights and for

:25:16. > :25:21.justice. And my view, Mr Speaker, is that we must now confront this

:25:22. > :25:28.evil, it is now time for us to do our bit in Syria. And that is why I

:25:29. > :25:35.ask my colleagues to vote for this motion tonight.

:25:36. > :25:38.The reaction, you saw the reaction at the Commons, but even this

:25:39. > :25:41.morning MPs who have been around a long time are saying they have never

:25:42. > :25:44.seen anything like it. I was chatting with the Defence Secretary

:25:45. > :25:49.Michael Palin this morning, eight this was his reaction to the speech.

:25:50. > :25:53.It is one of the most impressive speeches I have seen in nearly 30

:25:54. > :25:58.years in Parliament. He put the argument extremely well. There were

:25:59. > :26:01.good speeches on both sides of the argument, and I think Parliament did

:26:02. > :26:05.justice to a very important decision.

:26:06. > :26:11.Even some of Mr Corbyn's supporters, you saw Mr Corbyn

:26:12. > :26:14.delivering the speech -- when he was delivering the speech, sitting

:26:15. > :26:18.slumped, flagging up the divide that is emerging this morning, John

:26:19. > :26:23.McDonnell, the Shadow Chancellor, through gritted teeth, I thought,

:26:24. > :26:27.gave a rather nuanced response to the speech. Other listen to what he

:26:28. > :26:33.said. On the retreat itself, across the

:26:34. > :26:38.house, I thought the were excellent, Jeremy was careful in the way he

:26:39. > :26:42.approached it, I thought Hillary's rectory was great. It reminded me of

:26:43. > :26:49.Tony Blair's speech taking us into the Iraq war and I am always great

:26:50. > :26:53.test -- always aware of the greatest oratory but also the greatest

:26:54. > :26:57.mistakes as well. The greatest oratory can leaders

:26:58. > :27:02.into the greatest mistakes. He talked about the Tony Blair speech

:27:03. > :27:06.in 2002, I'm old enough to have been in the chamber when Tony Blair was

:27:07. > :27:11.making it. It was, again, one of those speeches which turned the

:27:12. > :27:16.mood. I have a clip of that. The outcome of this issue will now

:27:17. > :27:20.determine more than the fate of the Iraqi regime, more than the future

:27:21. > :27:25.of the Iraqi people, for so long brutalised by Saddam Hussein! ,

:27:26. > :27:30.important though those issues. It will determine the way Britain and

:27:31. > :27:35.the world confront the security threat of the 21st secretary, --

:27:36. > :27:38.21st-century, the relationship between Europe and the United

:27:39. > :27:41.States, relations within the European Union, and the way the

:27:42. > :27:46.United States engages with the rest of the world. It could hardly be

:27:47. > :27:53.more important will stop can I ask you, Norman, about the searing

:27:54. > :27:56.divisions in the Labour Party at the moment?

:27:57. > :28:00.We spoke to the Shadow Home Secretary Andy Burnham, I asked him

:28:01. > :28:04.about bullying of certain members who voted for air strikes. He called

:28:05. > :28:11.for Jeremy Corbyn to introduce a code of conduct for Labour members

:28:12. > :28:16.and supporters. It is pretty bad, isn't it? It is extraordinarily

:28:17. > :28:21.bad, not just the obvious division within the Labour Party, 66 Labour

:28:22. > :28:24.MPs, 11 members of the Shadow Cabinet, defying Jeremy Corbyn last

:28:25. > :28:27.night on what is one of the most fundamental issues we can ever face,

:28:28. > :28:31.War and peace. It is not just that but the nature

:28:32. > :28:37.of the division that is becoming increasingly bitter and personal and

:28:38. > :28:43.nasty. Not just, I think, on social media, though a lot of it is on

:28:44. > :28:47.social media, some of the stuff there has been pretty extraordinary.

:28:48. > :28:51.One Labour MP, Liz Kendall, yesterday received a tweet saying

:28:52. > :28:55.she should be part of the final solution, which would be a purge of

:28:56. > :29:02.Blairite scum like her. That gives you a sense of some of the animosity

:29:03. > :29:06.out there. The difficulty is this, many Labour MPs feel that although

:29:07. > :29:10.Mr Corbyn has condemned it, that he has also licensed it to some extent

:29:11. > :29:15.by almost encouraging the grass roots to put the squeeze on Labour

:29:16. > :29:22.MPs and the real fear is that some of them will basically be deselected

:29:23. > :29:25.because they are not corporate MPs. We heard Ken Livingstone this

:29:26. > :29:30.morning saying ineffective would be happy to see MPs who voted against

:29:31. > :29:35.Jeremy Corbyn deselected, and that is what is driving this, the fear

:29:36. > :29:38.that there is almost a hit list of non-Corbin MPs who risked being

:29:39. > :29:45.bumped off, and my sense is the Labour Party parliamentary party is

:29:46. > :29:48.now a profoundly disorganised and -- dysfunctional organisation at the

:29:49. > :29:53.moment where the leader is at odds with key figures in his own team,

:29:54. > :29:55.like Hilary Benn. You have a Parliamentary party at odds not just

:29:56. > :29:59.with the leader but with the party and the country, too.

:30:00. > :30:03.Thank you very much, Norman. Much more from Norman throughout the day

:30:04. > :30:07.on BBC News. This news just in to do with the BBC

:30:08. > :30:11.executive Alan Yentob, formerly the chairman of trustees of the failed

:30:12. > :30:41.Charity Kids Company, and the news is that he is stepping down,

:30:42. > :30:43.resigning as a BBC executive. Here is his statement: The BBC is

:30:44. > :30:46.going through particularly challenging times and I have come to

:30:47. > :30:48.believe that the speculation about Kids Company and the media coverage

:30:49. > :30:50.around my role is proving a serious distraction, so I have spoken to

:30:51. > :30:54.Tony Wall, the director-general, the boss of the BBC, and told him I

:30:55. > :30:56.think it is best I stepped down from Mike senior management role as

:30:57. > :30:58.creative director at the end of the year and focus on programme making

:30:59. > :31:00.and TV production, including the Imagine series. I love the BBC,

:31:01. > :31:03.continues the statement from Alan Yentob, and will continue to do

:31:04. > :31:05.everything I can to ensure it thrives and fulfils the great

:31:06. > :31:07.expectations we all have of it. This statement, too, from the

:31:08. > :31:12.director-general, Tony Hall, on the news that Alan Yentob is resigning

:31:13. > :31:16.as creative director of the BBC but will continue making programmes,

:31:17. > :31:20.this from Lord Paul: Allen is a towering figure in television, the

:31:21. > :31:23.arts, add a creative force for good for Britain.

:31:24. > :31:27.He served the BBC with distinction in a number of different executive

:31:28. > :31:31.roles, all of which characterised by his energy, creativity and

:31:32. > :31:34.commitment to public service. He has an extraordinary bulk of

:31:35. > :31:39.achievement. For the record, BBC News considered whether Alan Yentob

:31:40. > :31:43.had influenced the BBC's journalism on the reporting of Kids Company.

:31:44. > :31:58.They concluded that he did not. Despite that, I do stand his

:31:59. > :32:00.reasons. In doubt as creative director. He has been thinking about

:32:01. > :32:03.this carefully for some time and we have discussed it privately on a

:32:04. > :32:06.number of occasions. I'm pleased he will continue his work at the BBC as

:32:07. > :32:08.a programme maker in the future. There were reports that as a trustee

:32:09. > :32:11.of the failed charity Kids Company Alan Yentob was accused by a number

:32:12. > :32:13.of BBC journalists of trying to interfere with their coverage of

:32:14. > :32:17.what happened to Kids Company but as Tony Hill, director-general of the

:32:18. > :32:21.BBC, says in this statement, BBC News considered whether Alan Yentob

:32:22. > :32:24.had influenced the BBC News journalism on the coverage of Kids

:32:25. > :32:29.Company but concluded he did not. So the news is that Alan Yentob will

:32:30. > :32:33.no longer be a BBC executive, he will no longer be the creative

:32:34. > :32:36.director of the BBC, he is resigning from that role but will continue to

:32:37. > :32:41.make programmes. More reaction on that to come.

:32:42. > :32:44.Some reaction to the air strikes from Syrians living in this country

:32:45. > :32:46.in just a moment. 14 people have been killed and

:32:47. > :32:50.seventeen injured in a mass shooting A few hours later, two suspects,

:32:51. > :32:56.28-year-old Syed Farook, and 27-year-old Tashfeen Malik were shot

:32:57. > :33:07.dead in a gunfight with police. President Obama said the

:33:08. > :33:11.United States has a pattern of mass shootings that has no parallel

:33:12. > :33:22.anywhere else in the world. A more unlikely venue for a shooting

:33:23. > :33:35.rampage it might be difficult to find.

:33:36. > :33:41.14 dead, 17 injured after gunmen opened fire on a holiday party at a

:33:42. > :33:48.Centre for People with special needs.

:33:49. > :33:53.My daughter's in there. She texted us about 30 minutes ago and said

:33:54. > :34:01.there was a shooter, he'd shot about 20 to 30 people she thought.

:34:02. > :34:08.There was a shooter in our building. They went into a room and locked the

:34:09. > :34:13.door. They told her turn off the lights and I haven't tried to call

:34:14. > :34:19.her because I didn't want the phone ringing. For several hours, the

:34:20. > :34:25.attackers were at large before police spotted a suspect vehicle and

:34:26. > :34:29.gave chase. There was a fierce gun battle in which two suspects, a man

:34:30. > :34:33.and woman, were shot dead. Police recovered hand guns and assault

:34:34. > :34:37.rifles. Another man is in custody, although it's not known if he was

:34:38. > :34:42.linked to the attack. President Obama's reiterated his call for

:34:43. > :34:47.tougher gun control laws here. We have a pattern now of mass

:34:48. > :34:52.shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the

:34:53. > :34:56.world. There are some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of

:34:57. > :35:00.these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as

:35:01. > :35:05.frequently. The motive for this attack remains a

:35:06. > :35:10.mystery, but theories ranging from a work place dispute to terrorism have

:35:11. > :35:14.all been advanced, but not since the Sandy Hook massacre three years ago

:35:15. > :35:18.have so many died in a single instance of gun violence.

:35:19. > :35:21.A short time ago I spoke to Cliff Cummings who owns

:35:22. > :35:33.There were helicopter flying overhead, you had probably 400

:35:34. > :35:38.responding officers, multi divisions came, the Cher rich's department,

:35:39. > :35:46.the local Police Department and it just went on and on, highway patrol.

:35:47. > :35:48.There was a massive response. I want to compliment the chief and all the

:35:49. > :35:54.law enforcement guys who did such an amazing job getting this situation

:35:55. > :35:58.under control. We were very fortunate in that there was a

:35:59. > :36:03.training exercise going on about a mile and a half from the shooting

:36:04. > :36:07.area and they were able to respond incredibly quickly. The very sad

:36:08. > :36:11.part of this I learned a little while ago is that the couple who did

:36:12. > :36:16.this had a six-month-old baby who is in the care of a neighbour I'm told

:36:17. > :36:21.or a relative, so what prompted them to do this is just beyond me. It

:36:22. > :36:25.shows one thing, that it can happen anywhere. What is the solution, do

:36:26. > :36:29.you think? There isn't one. I can tell you right now, in my mind, I've

:36:30. > :36:34.thought through this many times, I've had this discussion, I don't

:36:35. > :36:39.know that there is a solution because of the sheer numbers of what

:36:40. > :36:42.you would have to do. There are literally millions of guns out there

:36:43. > :36:45.that are not registered. I don't know that you can solve a problem

:36:46. > :36:48.that numbers in the millions. Many people

:36:49. > :36:51.in Syria are all too used to the frightening sound of explosions

:36:52. > :36:54.and the grim news of casualties. So, how will the addition of British

:36:55. > :36:57.firepower affect people living Rozin Khaleel Hamjool,

:36:58. > :37:04.an 18-year-old Yazidi women who moved here with her family

:37:05. > :37:15.when she was ten. Hello, Rozin, thank you for talking

:37:16. > :37:19.to us. Tell us about the reaction from your friends, family, back in

:37:20. > :37:25.Sir yarks to the fact that the British are now involved militarily

:37:26. > :37:30.in your country? I think so far from what I've heard from both of the

:37:31. > :37:36.areas like in Iraq and Syria and as well as my family here now, I think

:37:37. > :37:42.it's a very positive one that it's a good thing that they have started

:37:43. > :37:48.these air strikes. However, I think they want to know if the

:37:49. > :37:53.humanitarian aid will also be talked about in perhaps Parliament.

:37:54. > :38:00.Yes. Which is a very fair question. I'm also going to bring in, many I

:38:01. > :38:06.Fay, Mohammed Izreb who lives in the UK and is from Syria. Tell us about

:38:07. > :38:13.your own friends and family back home and what, if any, difference it

:38:14. > :38:17.makes to them that the British are involved militarily in your country?

:38:18. > :38:20.To be honest, it was disappointing seeing what happened yesterday in

:38:21. > :38:24.the Parliament. The whole discussion was about Isis and although it's a

:38:25. > :38:30.big threat in Syria, the main threat in Syria really is the Assad regime,

:38:31. > :38:33.mainly 80% of deaths are caused by the Assad regime and it was only a

:38:34. > :38:39.few people yesterday in the Parliament who managed to discuss

:38:40. > :38:43.the civilian protection. Most of the deaths in Syria happen due the

:38:44. > :38:50.aerial bombardment so how can we assure Syrian people that that we

:38:51. > :38:54.are not going to respond to that. I was hoping to see some part of that

:38:55. > :38:59.discussion going on in addition to bombing Isis. I don't know if you

:39:00. > :39:06.know Mohammed, but going on in Vienna are these so-called peace

:39:07. > :39:11.talks, there is an ambitious time frame for a ceasefire in Syria

:39:12. > :39:16.within six months and then within 18 months free ahhed fair elections we

:39:17. > :39:18.are told - this is the plan - which will lead to an inclusive Government

:39:19. > :39:23.representing all the people of Syria? We heard those talks for a

:39:24. > :39:28.long time now. Syrian people can't believe it any more. We have

:39:29. > :39:33.experience that the Assad regime only respond to political talk when

:39:34. > :39:37.there is actually some military threat. That is what is happening

:39:38. > :39:41.two years ago when we threatened we are going to do something against

:39:42. > :39:44.the chemical weapons. Suddenly the Assad regime decided to sit on the

:39:45. > :39:49.table and give up his chemical weapons. It's the same now, if we

:39:50. > :39:52.just only sit on the table without enforcing that, with actually

:39:53. > :39:57.credible military threat to say that unless something happens, we are not

:39:58. > :40:02.going to let those civilians die every day. 150 die in Syria every

:40:03. > :40:08.day, that's a Paris attack happening every day in Syria. And Syrian

:40:09. > :40:12.people will have listened to this debate without hearing any singling

:40:13. > :40:16.word to assure them that civilian casualties will not happen. 150

:40:17. > :40:20.people every day multilied by six months and you can guess the total

:40:21. > :40:23.loss of life if that even happened after six months. That is

:40:24. > :40:28.extraordinary and thank you for reminding us of that. Rozin, our

:40:29. > :40:34.audience remembers what happened to the use still people at the hands of

:40:35. > :40:39.IS earlier this year. Do your friends and family in Syria feel

:40:40. > :40:45.they are more at threat from IS or President Assad as Mohammed was

:40:46. > :40:55.saying? I think the big problem is that

:40:56. > :41:03.actually I don't know much about the President Assad's involvement with

:41:04. > :41:12.IS and the whole situation really, but what Islamic state is doing and

:41:13. > :41:17.the theology is completely wrong and against humanity and that should be

:41:18. > :41:20.everyone's worry, surely. Mohammed, you've clearly said that

:41:21. > :41:26.there doesn't seem to be, or you don't have much faith in the plan to

:41:27. > :41:32.remove President Assad from power - I wonder how you think things will

:41:33. > :41:38.unfold then over the next six months, 12 months, 18 months?

:41:39. > :41:47.I mean, I'm hoping there'll be more political pressure on Assad regime

:41:48. > :41:50.and I hope that a real and legitimate pressure... That pressure

:41:51. > :41:55.would have to come from Russia because they are allies but there is

:41:56. > :41:59.no sign that President Putin wants President Assad to go? I don't think

:42:00. > :42:03.Putin would want to see Assad going. They are claiming now that they are

:42:04. > :42:07.bombing Isis, Russia do. All you are seeing is bombing of hospitals and

:42:08. > :42:11.civilian areas, where Isis is not even there, they are just bombing

:42:12. > :42:18.the Free Syrian Army under the big umbrella of bombing Isis. Only two

:42:19. > :42:23.days ago, we had a hospital bombed by Russian airplanes. They are using

:42:24. > :42:31.cluster bombs. I mean, that's the risk here, we look to the eyes of

:42:32. > :42:39.Syrians, as if we are joining Russia in bombing and Russia is not bombing

:42:40. > :42:50.Isis but the Free Syrian Army. So they won't be able to differentiate.

:42:51. > :42:55.To Syrians, we have to take things in balance. When 150 people die

:42:56. > :43:00.every day because of Assad, there is a lot of people, but it's not the

:43:01. > :43:05.same level, 5% of the death toll in Syria is caused by Isis, so it's

:43:06. > :43:08.still horrendous but you can see why Syrian people are putting more

:43:09. > :43:10.emphasis on Assad. Thank you both very much for talking

:43:11. > :43:23.to us. Thank you for your many, many

:43:24. > :43:28.messages. We do read them all, I promise you. This viewer on WhatsApp

:43:29. > :43:33.says, I totally agree that Britain should have gone in sooner to carry

:43:34. > :43:39.out air strikes on Isis. E-mail from Robin, Daesh are already killing

:43:40. > :43:44.civilians indiscriminately, raping, beheading et cetera. What would have

:43:45. > :43:47.happened in 1944 if he said we couldn't attack when Hitler and his

:43:48. > :43:51.vile regime were already killing millions? Get real, Jeremy Corbyn,

:43:52. > :43:55.and supporters in the long run, Daesh have to be stopped before

:43:56. > :44:01.there are no civilians left. And this tweet from Lynn,

:44:02. > :44:03.practically every Syrian person who's asked says it's