05/02/2016

:00:14. > :00:18.A United Nations panel says Julian Assange should get the right

:00:19. > :00:20.to compensation - formally ruling that he's been 'arbitrarily

:00:21. > :00:22.detained' at an embassy where he sought asylum -

:00:23. > :00:30.but British police say he still faces arrest if he leaves.

:00:31. > :00:39.Juliana Symes was hoping he could walk out of the embassy after almost

:00:40. > :00:41.four years. That looks to be very unlikely. -- Julian Assange.

:00:42. > :00:44.More than 8,000 patients a day are in hospital when they should

:00:45. > :00:48.A new report into how the NHS in England can save money,

:00:49. > :00:50.says bed blocking is costing 900 million pounds a year.

:00:51. > :00:53.After more than a decade the most famous male model in the world

:00:54. > :00:58.I've been to meet Ben Stiller and his co-star Owen Wilson ahead

:00:59. > :01:14.Derek existed before the selfie, he predated it. He invented it except

:01:15. > :01:29.there was not a phone or a Cammarata take it. He invented the look.

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:01:52. > :01:54.Developing story to bring you this morning: A United Nations panel has

:01:55. > :01:56.in the last hour confirmed its ruling that the Wikileaks

:01:57. > :02:01.founder Julian Assange has been what it calls arbitrarily detained.

:02:02. > :02:03.And it calls for him to be given the right to compensation

:02:04. > :02:12.Mr Assange voluntarily entered the Ecuadorean embassy in London

:02:13. > :02:14.in 2012, seeking to avoid extradition to Sweden where he's

:02:15. > :02:18.wanted for questioning over a rape allegation.

:02:19. > :02:21.Police say he'll be arrested if he leaves the building.

:02:22. > :02:25.The UN panel has called on the UK and Sweden to end his supposed

:02:26. > :02:33.Downing Street has said the ruling has no legal force and in the last

:02:34. > :02:41.few moments we've heard the UK will contest the decision.

:02:42. > :02:44.The Swedish government says he is free to leave the embassy

:02:45. > :02:49.It's the latest twist in a long drama that has kept

:02:50. > :03:35.We have seen the distortion of evidence and facts by prosecuting

:03:36. > :03:37.authorities in Sweden, revealed at my new detail throughout

:03:38. > :03:52.Under our law, with Mr Assange having exhausted all options

:03:53. > :03:55.of appeal, the British authorities are under a binding obligation

:03:56. > :04:03.We must carry out that obligation and of course we fully intend

:04:04. > :04:28.As WikiLeaks stands under threat, so does the freedom of expression

:04:29. > :04:37.I ask President Obama to do the right thing.

:04:38. > :04:43.The United States must renounce its witchhunt

:04:44. > :05:17.He has told the people of the world and the United States

:05:18. > :05:22.that there is mass unlawful interception of their

:05:23. > :05:29.It is hard in there without the air and the sunlight, without any

:05:30. > :06:11.It is a story developing this morning. We are expecting to hear

:06:12. > :06:19.from the people speaking on behalf of the United Nations in Geneva.

:06:20. > :06:22.Let's talk to a lawyer for Julian Assange who worked on petitioning

:06:23. > :06:27.the United Nations. Thank you for joining us. The UK and Swedish

:06:28. > :06:36.governments say that he is not arbitrarily detained. He went in off

:06:37. > :06:46.his own accord. Thank you for having me. I would like to clarify. The

:06:47. > :06:52.asylum Julian Assange received is about an ongoing case against him

:06:53. > :06:55.and his website for publishing activities in the United States. It

:06:56. > :07:08.does not have anything to do with Sweden or even the UK. That is

:07:09. > :07:17.instrumental. The United States has not made an extradition request for

:07:18. > :07:23.him to be sent to the United States. Federal court documents confirm

:07:24. > :07:37.there is an ongoing case against Julian Assange, and numerous sources

:07:38. > :07:51.indicate that in similar cases such as Edward Snowden, when it comes to

:07:52. > :07:58.these planning is... Sweden has said before he would not face being sent

:07:59. > :08:10.to a country where he faces the death penalty. To this day, neither

:08:11. > :08:21.Sweden or the UK have offered this. There is an attempt to prosecute him

:08:22. > :08:25.for publishing activities. The UN said it is based on the possibility

:08:26. > :08:31.of extradition and should have been given consideration. The UN

:08:32. > :08:34.admonished both states for not taking into account the

:08:35. > :08:40.determination of Ecuador, and they noted that both the UK and Sweden

:08:41. > :08:46.have recognised a silent on humanitarian grounds in similar

:08:47. > :08:52.cases. What we are talking about now is the idea of detention. It exists

:08:53. > :08:57.when your only choice is between confinement and risking persecution.

:08:58. > :09:02.That is precisely the case. This, specifically, there is no

:09:03. > :09:06.extradition request from the united states. It boils down to an

:09:07. > :09:11.allegation of rape outstanding in Sweden. The UK Government points out

:09:12. > :09:17.there is an allegation and a European Arrest Warrant in place and

:09:18. > :09:22.they have a legal obligation to extradite him to Sweden. He took the

:09:23. > :09:26.decision to avoid that by going into the embassy. As a matter of

:09:27. > :09:32.international law, the European Convention on human rights simply

:09:33. > :09:35.disagrees with that view. Outstanding extradition requests are

:09:36. > :09:42.not a requirement, both Sweden and the UK have an independent legal

:09:43. > :09:49.obligation to assess whether an individual would face a risk of

:09:50. > :10:00.onward persecution, that would violate the rights of Julian

:10:01. > :10:04.Assange. The UN has said he should get compensation from Sweden in the

:10:05. > :10:14.UK. Is that something he will pursue? Absolutely, our lawyers are

:10:15. > :10:22.reviewing this. That is breaking news. It came out in the last hour.

:10:23. > :10:26.This UN body is the highest authority on detention in the world.

:10:27. > :10:34.This is the process in which an independent investigation, both the

:10:35. > :10:45.UK and Sweden participated in it and all the evidence was considered. It

:10:46. > :10:56.would surprise me if either state decides to challenge the outcome.

:10:57. > :11:04.This authority is relied upon, and they are detained as well. Will he

:11:05. > :11:07.walk out of the embassy? The only way that Julian Assange can have

:11:08. > :11:14.freedom of movement is to go to a hospital, with sufficient guarantees

:11:15. > :11:30.that his asylum would be respected. That is at the core of this case. So

:11:31. > :11:40.far, the process has not taken that into account. That is the core of

:11:41. > :11:46.this case. I might add that under the procedures of the working group

:11:47. > :11:51.there are very narrow grounds for appeal but they required new fact

:11:52. > :11:59.that did not exist at the time of the case. The only new fact that

:12:00. > :12:04.exists is the fact that the UK lost this case. That would be grounds to

:12:05. > :12:22.appeal and we would encourage both governments to implement this

:12:23. > :12:30.decision. Coming up, thousands of would-be codebreakers had a crack at

:12:31. > :12:32.it but nobody cracked GCHQ's puzzle. Now, next.

:12:33. > :12:35.How cheap does a shop need to be, to make a cut-price supermarket

:12:36. > :12:39.Well the answer could lie in west London, where a new supermarket has

:12:40. > :12:42.Pizza, tuna, tea, biscuits - it's all the same.

:12:43. > :12:45.It's the brainchild of Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou,

:12:46. > :12:48.the founder of Easyjet - and he's calling this venture -

:12:49. > :12:52.And the store has proved so popular it was forced to shut.

:12:53. > :12:55.Today it re-opens - and our reporter Ashley John-Baptiste is there.

:12:56. > :13:02.It opens again and a reporter is there. It looks more like a

:13:03. > :13:16.storeroom than a supermarket but is proving popular. Tell us what it is

:13:17. > :13:20.like. Here I am at the EasyFood store which officially opened this

:13:21. > :13:28.week. It is basically a small grocery store selling staple food

:13:29. > :13:36.items. What it does not sell is fresh produce. For the month of

:13:37. > :13:43.February, everything in this shop costs 25p. It opened on Monday but

:13:44. > :13:47.it closed yesterday because it ran out of stock. Since the doors have

:13:48. > :13:54.opened it has been bursting at the seams with customers. I saw the

:13:55. > :13:59.queue before it opens and there was a sense of excitement and consumer

:14:00. > :14:05.energy and bars. Very exciting time for the customers. However, the

:14:06. > :14:12.store only sells 76 items, compared with your average supermarket which

:14:13. > :14:17.sells 70,000. I've been told that prices will increase next month to

:14:18. > :14:25.50p and will be re-addressed there on. Everybody is hungry, we want to

:14:26. > :14:31.take a little challenge. Go and buy something for breakfast, coffee,

:14:32. > :14:35.tea, biscuits, but just to make it harder we want you to go to some

:14:36. > :14:42.other supermarkets to compare prices. Are you up for that?

:14:43. > :14:49.Absolutely, I'd already bought you five items. We've got coffee, 25p,

:14:50. > :14:51.serial, biscuits. I will do that at the other supermarkets and compare

:14:52. > :15:03.prices with you. We will see you later. Thank you for joining us

:15:04. > :15:06.today. Still to come, more than 2000 instances of female genital

:15:07. > :15:11.mutilation were reported in England last year. Why have the body ever

:15:12. > :15:19.been convicted? Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson tell me about being back on

:15:20. > :15:28.the catwalk in Zoolander two. Let's bring you up-to-date with the main

:15:29. > :15:34.news this morning. I'd UN panel says Julius -- Julian Assange has been

:15:35. > :15:40.arbitrarily detained and should get compensation. The NHS in England

:15:41. > :15:46.could save billions every year. A review has found they could save

:15:47. > :15:50.?900 million by getting people out of hospital more quickly. Lord

:15:51. > :15:56.Carter has done a report in which he found nearly one in ten beds was

:15:57. > :16:00.taken by someone well enough to be released. David Cameron is trying to

:16:01. > :16:09.win support in his plans for EU reform. He faces growing pressure at

:16:10. > :16:14.home as a new survey suggests more Britons want to leave than stay in

:16:15. > :16:18.the EU. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have clashed in a debate.

:16:19. > :16:28.They are the only remaining Democrats in the race. Maurice White

:16:29. > :16:36.has died in the United States at the age of 74. The band had a number of

:16:37. > :16:41.hits including September and Shining Star. Two men have been injured

:16:42. > :16:49.after a motorbike stunt went badly wrong. They were reportedly

:16:50. > :17:00.volunteers and were hurt after the bike failed to clear a ramp. We have

:17:01. > :17:07.the build-up to the six Nations. With just 24 hours to go, excitement

:17:08. > :17:16.reaching fever pitch. It will be very exciting.

:17:17. > :17:23.Eddie Jones, this trading, taking things over at England, familiar

:17:24. > :17:28.looking squad, only for changes to the team that lost in their last

:17:29. > :17:32.matches at the World Cup last year, Scotland are a team on the up, Vern

:17:33. > :17:36.Cotter taking charge, it will be a really interesting game, we will see

:17:37. > :17:39.how that goes tomorrow. That is how the six Nations is looking.

:17:40. > :17:44.Switching codes, the Super League got under way last night, really

:17:45. > :17:49.interesting stuff or Leeds Rhinos, they won all three of the domestic

:17:50. > :17:54.titles on offer last year. They lost against Warrington Wolves on the

:17:55. > :17:58.opening match at home. Not a good start. Breaking news this morning,

:17:59. > :18:02.Jessica Ennis-Hill has ruled herself out of the indoor season this year,

:18:03. > :18:05.she has a sore Achilles, she wants to make sure that in fine fettle for

:18:06. > :18:14.the Olympics, and maintaining her title. Join us in 20 minutes time.

:18:15. > :18:22.New figures published today show how many young girls in England are

:18:23. > :18:35.subjected to female genital mutilation, known as FGM.

:18:36. > :18:37.It's reported that a new case of FGM is reported in England

:18:38. > :18:40.More than 2,400 instances of mutilation were reported

:18:41. > :18:43.in the six months from April to September last year.

:18:44. > :18:45.And experts believe these numbers don't reflect the true

:18:46. > :18:48.extent of the problem and are just "the tip of the iceberg".

:18:49. > :18:51.FGM is illegal in the UK and it is illegal to take someone

:18:52. > :18:53.abroad to have the procedure carried out.

:18:54. > :18:56.At the start of November last year if someone like a doctor,

:18:57. > :18:59.a nurse or a social worker suspects a girl under 18 has suffered FGM

:19:00. > :19:03.The new laws introduced last year were designed to deter

:19:04. > :19:06.the practice and could lead to the first ever conviction for FGM

:19:07. > :19:16.Our report Catrin Nye went to meet women who have survived FGM

:19:17. > :19:19.and reported back to us at the end of last year.

:19:20. > :19:22.Here's a quick reminder of what she found and as you might

:19:23. > :19:24.expect her film coming up contains frank and graphic material right

:19:25. > :19:31.If you've got young children with you watching you might not

:19:32. > :19:36.It is something I have to live with for the rest of my life, that is

:19:37. > :19:41.what I do not want another child screaming like that. She had FGM in

:19:42. > :19:44.Somalia as a child before moving to the UK.

:19:45. > :19:50.It was not until she had a baby that she found out it was not normal. It

:19:51. > :19:54.has been illegal in the UK since 1985 but nobody has ever been

:19:55. > :20:01.convicted of it. Seeing this the first time, that medical lectures, I

:20:02. > :20:05.have had people being sick in the audience, because it was too much.

:20:06. > :20:09.In many countries in Africa, it is just the norm for women, in Somalia,

:20:10. > :20:24.98% have had it. Exact figures on female genital

:20:25. > :20:29.metre Laois and in the UK are impossible because it is so

:20:30. > :20:32.secretive, a recent that the estimated 127,000 women who have

:20:33. > :20:36.come to live in England and Wales are living with the consequences of

:20:37. > :20:41.FGM. Another 10,000 girls are likely to have added. Now, if a girl under

:20:42. > :20:47.the age of 18 comes into this north London hospital or any London

:20:48. > :20:51.hospital and the staff are old or see that she has FGM, they must tell

:20:52. > :21:03.police, teachers and social workers must also report. -- another 10,000

:21:04. > :21:08.girls are likely to have had it. These ladies run a specialist

:21:09. > :21:13.fennec, if another member of staff sees it, they will tell these

:21:14. > :21:28.specialists. How many women are you seeing? 40 a week. That is going. --

:21:29. > :21:32.growing. Have you feel about rather than contacting social services, you

:21:33. > :21:36.will be calling the police? I have been saying to health professionals

:21:37. > :21:41.that you should not feel anxious about reporting, it supports you, it

:21:42. > :21:50.is something you should be doing already, if you discover a girl who

:21:51. > :21:54.is under 18 who has had FGM. There is confidentiality, people trust

:21:55. > :21:59.you, do you worry about people seeing you as an arm of the police?

:22:00. > :22:07.If you are under 18, you are a child. You need to be protected. But

:22:08. > :22:14.we are here to support the women's. The thing which worries me, is that

:22:15. > :22:21.for the first time, we are really cutting right across the principle

:22:22. > :22:24.of confidentiality. For patients who attend their doctor. Junior and even

:22:25. > :22:32.senior doctors are deficient in their knowledge of genital

:22:33. > :22:39.mutilation. Without extensive re-education, I do not think this is

:22:40. > :22:45.really going to be a starter. You think your attitude is slightly

:22:46. > :22:52.defeated? I think it is realistic. -- defeatist. Why do you think some

:22:53. > :22:57.experts think mandatory reporting is a bad idea? It comes down to not

:22:58. > :23:01.really understanding how that process works, for me it is quite

:23:02. > :23:07.simple, you would report to me if I took my daughter to the hospital and

:23:08. > :23:10.her arm or finger was cut off, you would have two report that, so why

:23:11. > :23:14.is that different to when her genitals mutilated, I want to ask a

:23:15. > :23:16.health professional that is resistant to this, why is it any

:23:17. > :23:27.different? STUDIO: Let's discuss the issues

:23:28. > :23:30.raised in that report. Hibo Wardere is an author and anti-FGM campaigner

:23:31. > :23:33.who was cut as a child. Arifa Nasim runs a charity to prevent young

:23:34. > :23:34.girls at risk of FGM and Lucy Russell is the campaigns manager for

:23:35. > :23:46.Plan UK. Thank you for joining us, first of

:23:47. > :23:51.all, you were cut at the age of six, Hibo, what do you remember? I

:23:52. > :23:54.remember everything, the pain, how I was groomed the day before, it is

:23:55. > :24:01.something that you never forget, it stays with you. It is

:24:02. > :24:04.psychologically, emotionally, mentally there are, it is nothing

:24:05. > :24:09.you can ever forget, however young you are, you are always there. For

:24:10. > :24:14.years I did not talk about it because it is too personal and

:24:15. > :24:19.painful, you just feel humiliated and disgusted... You do not want to

:24:20. > :24:25.discuss it with anyone, not even my mother. That is the horrible part of

:24:26. > :24:29.it, it happened, but nobody after that discusses anything about it,

:24:30. > :24:35.how you feel, what just happened, nothing, no one did. That was the

:24:36. > :24:39.fact that I struggle to understand that something major had taken

:24:40. > :24:42.place, but nobody is discussing it or asking how you deal about it,

:24:43. > :24:52.what has happened... It becomes a moot subject... At what age did you

:24:53. > :24:57.think it was unacceptable? From the moment they cut me, I was consumed

:24:58. > :25:01.in pain... It was part of the culture... At what stage did you

:25:02. > :25:06.think it was unacceptable and you wanted to do something about it? I

:25:07. > :25:10.always thought that one day I would discuss it, but I did not know how

:25:11. > :25:14.long it was going to take, it took me 42 years to even begin to discuss

:25:15. > :25:18.what had happened. To look at myself and what had happened. In the

:25:19. > :25:23.meantime I was literally asking my mother every day, why did this

:25:24. > :25:34.happen, why did you do this, until I was 16, and she told me that we did

:25:35. > :25:38.this in order to preserve virginity, it is part of heritage, it is all to

:25:39. > :25:43.do with making you preserved for your future husband. Here I was

:25:44. > :25:47.thinking, you make me go through all of this pain and horrific things

:25:48. > :25:53.that I suffered, echoes of a future husband?! Why is he not suffering

:25:54. > :25:57.like that, why do my genitals have to be ripped up, because of that, I

:25:58. > :26:04.had so many questions but I did not know how to discuss it and I did not

:26:05. > :26:07.know when. You have a daughter. Three beautiful daughters, 19, 14

:26:08. > :26:13.and nine years old, they will never know this, because I came to the UK,

:26:14. > :26:18.the first thing I realised was, freedom, this is freedom for me, the

:26:19. > :26:22.biggest part was realising that for my future children, they will never

:26:23. > :26:26.experience what I did. For them to see today, a young woman, the other

:26:27. > :26:32.one growing up, the other one playing with her dolls, and I am

:26:33. > :26:36.talking Somalian... It is amazing to see them... They do not have the

:26:37. > :26:46.emotional things that I was going through when I was younger, carefree

:26:47. > :26:54.girls. I live my life through that, I see them and I lift my childhood

:26:55. > :27:01.through them, for me, that is huge. You are best friends with one of the

:27:02. > :27:04.daughters, as a result of hearing about her experiences, and others,

:27:05. > :27:13.you have decided to become actively involved in campaigning on the

:27:14. > :27:18.issue. Whatever you been doing? I found out about FGM when she came

:27:19. > :27:23.and told me that her mother was campaigning on the issue. At the

:27:24. > :27:27.time I was doing a campaign on forced marriage at my school. We

:27:28. > :27:33.went to school together, and she said, this is an issue that links to

:27:34. > :27:38.it. Before that I had not heard of it. You were 14, very young, and

:27:39. > :27:43.obviously concerned by what you are hearing. Absolutely, and it began to

:27:44. > :27:47.tie into everything that I was hearing about honour, the motivation

:27:48. > :27:50.and reasons for which young people are forced to go through this

:27:51. > :27:55.horrific abuse, and if you think about honour as a term, it is very

:27:56. > :28:00.difficult for people in Western societies to understand, Western

:28:01. > :28:08.societies are individualistic, where a societies that practice FGM, they

:28:09. > :28:13.are collective societies. What they say goes, essentially. Even if a

:28:14. > :28:16.mother does not want her child to be cut, she does not have a say, it

:28:17. > :28:20.will be the grandmother or the aunty, that will perpetrate the

:28:21. > :28:25.abuse. Understanding the dynamics under which these abuses and

:28:26. > :28:29.practices happen is really crucial. Is that something you came up

:28:30. > :28:32.against, when you took the decision that your children, your daughters,

:28:33. > :28:38.was their pressure from other family members? Once they found out I was

:28:39. > :28:43.not going to cut my girls, my own family wanted me to cut them, and

:28:44. > :28:47.his family also wanted them to be cut, they will each week quite vocal

:28:48. > :28:52.about that. The only thing I could tell them, these are my kids, not

:28:53. > :28:56.yours, I make a decision, their answer was, who is going to marry!

:28:57. > :29:00.You are going to be labelled all kinds of names. And I thought, that

:29:01. > :29:06.does not matter, their health comes first. They were created that way,

:29:07. > :29:12.they are beautiful beings, every part of them, sacred and functional,

:29:13. > :29:19.who am I to have the right to remove anything just because of preserving

:29:20. > :29:24.virginity? No, tell tell her, that would be enough for me, and for her.

:29:25. > :29:30.The opportunity is hers, whether she wants to have six or not, it is her

:29:31. > :29:36.decision, we were not trusted, that is the reason we were mutilated. I

:29:37. > :29:42.want to be the opposite. One case reported every 109 minutes in the

:29:43. > :29:45.UK, is it actually happening here? It is, although the majority of

:29:46. > :29:50.cases, the girls are being sent back to home countries and there is

:29:51. > :29:54.something we call the cutting season, a particular time of the

:29:55. > :29:58.year during summer holidays, girls are sent home, people talk about

:29:59. > :30:02.going back to visit family, but often, there are plans in place for

:30:03. > :30:07.the girls to undergo FGM while they are away. It is possible to get

:30:08. > :30:10.orders in place to prevent children being taken from the country, but it

:30:11. > :30:17.must be quite hard to prove that is the reason. It is hard to prove, but

:30:18. > :30:20.I think what is happening is that the safeguarding processes, the

:30:21. > :30:24.police, people are beginning to understand more and more about the

:30:25. > :30:28.risks and what is happening. Things like being able to take away the

:30:29. > :30:34.passport of a child, does not harm them, but it does stop that risk.

:30:35. > :30:37.How often is that being incremented? At the moment it is more cases but

:30:38. > :30:42.one of the key thing is, people need to understand and learn more about

:30:43. > :30:44.it, we are really passionate about training people about public

:30:45. > :30:48.awareness and making sure professionals really understand what

:30:49. > :30:55.is going on. That is the only way that intervention will happen stop

:30:56. > :30:58.at Wonga what about the change that health professionals who see a case

:30:59. > :31:03.are obliged to report it, is that happening, is it making a

:31:04. > :31:08.difference? The reporting is happening, 109 minutes, that is the

:31:09. > :31:12.first year we have of health and social care statistics, that is

:31:13. > :31:16.painting a really strong picture for us and it is the first time we have

:31:17. > :31:26.had a sense of what is going on in England, but it is a long time

:31:27. > :31:29.before we know the real picture. The most vulnerable people are those

:31:30. > :31:34.that are not in contact with social services. Those statistics relate to

:31:35. > :31:36.people who have not been known about before, it is not new cases having

:31:37. > :31:40.all of the time. It is not new before, it is not new cases having

:31:41. > :31:41.cases, it is cases that have not been known about, so there is a

:31:42. > :31:58.mixture. Check how many women are there who

:31:59. > :32:03.cannot talk about it? 137,000 women live with FGM but that is just the

:32:04. > :32:07.tip of the iceberg, I think there is much more than that. 80% of them

:32:08. > :32:14.cannot speak about it, they live life as normal, and that is the

:32:15. > :32:25.worst way of suffering in silence, they are suffering when it comes to

:32:26. > :32:30.emotional, psychological things, but it is too personal to speak about

:32:31. > :32:40.it, but that is changing, when I come from, we do amazing work, what

:32:41. > :32:48.is happening is students are going back to the houses, talking about

:32:49. > :32:59.it, they do not even believe it exists in their own culture. It is

:33:00. > :33:03.amazing, they are confronting parents, asking them, does this

:33:04. > :33:08.happen in the community, they've got no choice but to tell them. It is

:33:09. > :33:15.educating parents as well, the child telling parents about the legality.

:33:16. > :33:19.For us, education is the way to get through to these women and we are

:33:20. > :33:30.doing it through the GPs, the coffee mornings, it is working in the UK.

:33:31. > :33:35.Thank you. A reminder, if you feel you are in immediate danger of being

:33:36. > :33:40.taken abroad to undergo FGM you should call the police. If you are

:33:41. > :33:52.concerned that the welfare of a child is at risk, you can find more

:33:53. > :34:08.contacts. You can call the NSPCC's hotline. Still to come, Ben Stiller

:34:09. > :34:14.is back as the dim-witted male model Derek Zoolander. I've been speaking

:34:15. > :34:27.to him and his co-star Owen Wilson. Let's get more on Julian Assange.

:34:28. > :34:34.His UK lawyer is here with me. Good morning. I've been reading the

:34:35. > :34:36.judgment. 100 paragraphs. Will it make any difference? It is

:34:37. > :34:42.interesting because nobody else seems to have read it. It has only

:34:43. > :34:51.just been released. It will be published later today. In the

:34:52. > :35:01.headlines it suggests his freedom of movement should be facilitated and

:35:02. > :35:05.he should be compensated. Sweden and Britain point out that his freedom

:35:06. > :35:13.of movement is only being curtailed by the fact that he went into the

:35:14. > :35:19.embassy to avoid extradition. 100 paragraphs of this refute that. The

:35:20. > :35:25.interesting thing for Britain is the blame is essentially put on Sweden.

:35:26. > :35:31.It is put on the Swedish prosecutor who has never given him, in five

:35:32. > :35:40.years, the opportunity to explain. It is put on the arrest warrant.

:35:41. > :35:51.This is something that MPs here will be interested in. He has been

:35:52. > :35:57.wrongly detained as a result of the European Arrest Warrant that was

:35:58. > :36:04.issued by a Swedish prosecutor, not by a Swedish court. The criticism is

:36:05. > :36:13.of the process, which we in Britain, after he was ordered to be

:36:14. > :36:19.extradited, changed. Now you cannot be extradited unless there is a

:36:20. > :36:27.trial. He is still under investigation. That is the point, he

:36:28. > :36:33.is still under investigation in Sweden and his opportunity to

:36:34. > :36:36.explain is by going to Sweden. The criticism of Sweden was that it had

:36:37. > :36:43.this process by which the European Arrest Warrant could be obtained, in

:36:44. > :36:54.this case by a partisan prosecutor who did not have sufficient

:36:55. > :37:01.evidence. It is on this basis... The prosecutor has been criticised.

:37:02. > :37:10.These are allegations that are being investigated. The court, the United

:37:11. > :37:14.Nations tribunal which I think Britain has an obligation to honour

:37:15. > :37:26.their judgment, because we rely on their judgment, when they held that

:37:27. > :37:36.others had been wrongly detained, we cannot pretend this is a judgment we

:37:37. > :37:41.can ignore because if we do, our reputation for upholding human

:37:42. > :37:51.rights will plummet. How does this trump the legal process? This is

:37:52. > :37:57.international law. What trumps obligation to Sweden is that Sweden

:37:58. > :38:06.has acted contrary to international law, but Sweden is bound morally by

:38:07. > :38:11.this judgment as well, so obviously in order to enforce it, Britain

:38:12. > :38:18.should get together with Sweden and find a way out. Perhaps compensate

:38:19. > :38:28.the Ecuadorians for putting up Julian a staunch -- Julian Assange.

:38:29. > :38:31.That is the result of Britain's commitment to international law. We

:38:32. > :38:36.have more soft power in the world than anyone else, partly because

:38:37. > :38:42.have more soft power in the world the BBC and its influence and partly

:38:43. > :38:50.because we honour international law. After this long judgment, which

:38:51. > :38:55.begins with Julian Assange being detained for ten days at Wormwood

:38:56. > :39:05.Scrubs, it essentially concentrates on the defects of the Swedish arrest

:39:06. > :39:11.warrant. Have you spoken to Julian Assange since? Not since the

:39:12. > :39:18.judgment came out. Will you leave the embassy? Obviously not. He only

:39:19. > :39:22.said he would leave if this ruling came in against him. What I think he

:39:23. > :39:27.will probably do, and I cannot speak to him because I've only just got

:39:28. > :39:35.the judgment, I think he will ask Sweden and Britain to comply with

:39:36. > :39:47.their international obligations to give him freedom of movement to

:39:48. > :39:52.negotiate a system where he has safe passage. I will leave that to him.

:39:53. > :39:59.Britain and Sweden have an obligation to honour that judgment.

:40:00. > :40:06.The real question would then become of free speech. I want to read you a

:40:07. > :40:11.bit of the Foreign Office statement, they say he has never been

:40:12. > :40:21.arbitrarily detained, they recognise the protections of the British legal

:40:22. > :40:30.system. He is voluntarily ignoring arrest by staying in the Ecuadorian

:40:31. > :40:33.Embassy. That was the United kingdom -- the argument the United Kingdom

:40:34. > :40:39.put to these judges and they rejected that. This is an example of

:40:40. > :40:46.the dog in the manger attitude. It does Britain's no favours because we

:40:47. > :40:52.must recognise, if we lose, the umpire gives us out, we walk. This

:40:53. > :41:01.is the cricketing metaphor for Britain's behaviour. How can we

:41:02. > :41:08.possibly say that the next time the tribunal says some dissident has

:41:09. > :41:14.been detained that Iran Russia should release them? They will turn

:41:15. > :41:19.around and say you don't honour these judgments. You are just as bad

:41:20. > :41:27.as we are. I think that's the damage the Foreign Office are going to

:41:28. > :41:35.cause. Thank you for joining us. This story is developing throughout

:41:36. > :41:41.the day. The UK Government have said they will challenge the decision. It

:41:42. > :41:45.has been more than a decade since the most famous male model in the

:41:46. > :41:52.world appeared on the screen but Derek Zoolander is back. The film

:41:53. > :41:57.was a success for Ben Stiller who directed and played the lead. After

:41:58. > :42:03.attempts to make a sequel it finally opens in the UK. I had the chance to

:42:04. > :42:08.sit down with Ben Stiller and his co-star. I was pretty excited to

:42:09. > :42:17.meet them. They were less excited to meet me. Let's do it! 15 years, how

:42:18. > :42:26.does it feel revisiting the characters?

:42:27. > :42:33.It was fun. At first it was strange because it had been so long, when we

:42:34. > :42:37.decided to make the movie, I watched the first movie again because I'd

:42:38. > :42:41.not seen it from long time, what it was a long time coming in terms of

:42:42. > :42:48.building up to make it. At one point we were going to do it in 2005, then

:42:49. > :42:54.2010, a couple of years ago we said, let us do this. How do you decide

:42:55. > :43:02.who you want? You try to think who you want for the world of the movie.

:43:03. > :43:06.There were certain people we wanted, and this time we were able to get

:43:07. > :43:17.those people in. The opening scene with Justin Bieber, where his dying

:43:18. > :43:22.act is to take a selfie, was that in there? It was in the script from the

:43:23. > :43:29.beginning because we wanted to kick off the movie in a way that related

:43:30. > :43:34.to what was happening today. Derek existed before the selfie, he

:43:35. > :43:39.predates that. He invented it, didn't he? Yes, except that there

:43:40. > :43:49.was no phone or camera to take it. He invented the look. I liken it to

:43:50. > :43:54.Marlon Brando existing before there was a movie camera, they were meant

:43:55. > :43:59.for each other. I never quite followed that analogy, I don't know

:44:00. > :44:09.if you did. Imagine if Marlon Brando existed without a camera to capture

:44:10. > :44:14.him. He was pretty good on stage... Derek would like to exist on a

:44:15. > :44:20.runway. You were lampooning... Tortured analogy. You were

:44:21. > :44:25.lampooning the fashion industry but the movie industry must be quite

:44:26. > :44:29.similar. I think there is a little bit of an overlap in the

:44:30. > :44:37.self-absorption, believing the whole world is thinking about movies and

:44:38. > :44:43.what you're doing, and I think the fashion industry has the same thing,

:44:44. > :44:46.you sort of have to think that to do something creative, to put yourself

:44:47. > :44:52.out there. You've got to take yourself seriously, to be taken

:44:53. > :44:58.seriously. You've got to say, this is what I think is it. Acting is the

:44:59. > :45:08.same thing. He pulled don't take chances or go as far as they go.

:45:09. > :45:23.There is always that fine line between brilliant and ridiculous. It

:45:24. > :45:27.is easy to find correlation. Zoolander two is released in cinemas

:45:28. > :45:35.everywhere if you want to see it. Now the weather. It is national

:45:36. > :45:38.weather forecaster Dave. I am expecting a cake any moment now. I

:45:39. > :45:44.want to show you something is happening in Japan at the moment.

:45:45. > :45:50.We've got the international Snow and ice Festival, you can see in the

:45:51. > :45:54.North where it is, the difference in the temperatures. We've got the

:45:55. > :45:59.milder conditions in South Japan and it is called in the North. There has

:46:00. > :46:05.been a lot of snow in the last few days. The resorts are doing well but

:46:06. > :46:13.so is the festival. Here are some pictures of this festival. Look at

:46:14. > :46:19.the detail in that. How long must it have taken to make that? This

:46:20. > :46:28.attracts 2 million visitors every year. In recent years, when there

:46:29. > :46:36.has not been enough snow? -- snow, the army have been deployed to

:46:37. > :46:41.import snow to save the festival. Last year, there was not enough

:46:42. > :46:49.snow. This year it is looking more promising. Temperatures over the

:46:50. > :46:58.next few days, still minus ten. By day it will be a little higher.

:46:59. > :47:06.Have you ever seen anything like that? No, we often have, not snow,

:47:07. > :47:11.but sand sculptures, they are also affected by the weather, the weather

:47:12. > :47:17.would melt the snow, it would rain, it is the same with the sand

:47:18. > :47:21.sculptures. We begin importing colder air, for most of us, this is

:47:22. > :47:25.the picture, cloudy scenario, drizzle coming out of the cloud,

:47:26. > :47:26.some showers around, and we have some rain, courtesy of this weather

:47:27. > :47:33.front. Some of the rain is going to be

:47:34. > :47:39.heavier, but it will be surrounded and just ahead of it by sorely wind,

:47:40. > :47:44.and through the course of the day, that is going to be pushing south.

:47:45. > :47:48.There will be some breaks, across parts of Yorkshire, and then into

:47:49. > :47:51.Lincolnshire, down into the West Midlands, we can also see some

:47:52. > :47:55.breaks, but for most it will be cloudy and at times, damp. As the

:47:56. > :48:00.rain continues south, across Scotland, clearest guys coming in

:48:01. > :48:09.behind it, cold, and we will see some showers as well. Around the

:48:10. > :48:14.rain we have this Warley wind, and just ahead of it, similar story. As

:48:15. > :48:19.we come south, under the veil of cloud, thick enough to produce

:48:20. > :48:23.drizzle all the odd shower. Temperatures ten or 11. Through the

:48:24. > :48:30.evening and overnight, this front will come south, ticking North,

:48:31. > :48:33.weakening feature, still windy, and another force will come in from the

:48:34. > :48:37.Atlantic, that will pep things up, but it means for England and Wales,

:48:38. > :48:41.another mild night. For the far north of England, Northern Ireland

:48:42. > :48:52.and Scotland, cold, cold enough for frost and the risk of ice on

:48:53. > :48:56.untreated surfaces. We begin on a wet note, tightly packed isobars

:48:57. > :48:59.means that it is going to be wind, gusts, gale force, even severe gales

:49:00. > :49:03.possible, with exposure through the English Channel. This rain could

:49:04. > :49:07.produce as much as 50 millimetres, two inches, across parts of Wales

:49:08. > :49:11.and south-west England, the risk of local flooding, and you can see it

:49:12. > :49:16.migrates north through the day, engaging with the colder air, and so

:49:17. > :49:19.we will see some snow on the hills. Still cold in the north,

:49:20. > :49:31.comparatively mild as we push further south. Sunday is going to be

:49:32. > :49:34.a mishmash, shall shine, showers, blustery showers, strongest wind

:49:35. > :49:37.will be in the north and for a time we are likely to see hills no, by

:49:38. > :49:42.then, cooler conditions will have floated further south. I say cooler,

:49:43. > :49:45.compared to what they are going to be today, it will feel cooler, is

:49:46. > :49:48.temperatures are more representative of where they should be at this

:49:49. > :50:01.stage in February. -- these temperatures.

:50:02. > :50:06.we're on BBC 2 and the BBC News Channel until 11 this morning.

:50:07. > :50:08.We'll keep you across the latest breaking and developing

:50:09. > :50:14.We're keen to hear from you throughout the programme.

:50:15. > :50:16.Texts will be charged at the standard network rate.

:50:17. > :50:18.And of course you can watch the programme online wherever

:50:19. > :50:24.you are via the bbc news app or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria.

:50:25. > :50:27.As a United Nations panel rules that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has

:50:28. > :50:31.at an embassy where he sought asylum, his lawyer tells this

:50:32. > :50:33.programme the UK and Swedish governments must abide

:50:34. > :50:38.We would urge both governments to implement this decision under

:50:39. > :50:41.numerous binding national conventions.

:50:42. > :50:44.Thousand of patients in England are being kept in hospital

:50:45. > :50:47.even though they could be discharged if the right care was available

:50:48. > :50:56.to solve the problem of so-called bed-blocking?

:50:57. > :51:03.After more than a decade, the most famous male model is back on the big

:51:04. > :51:08.screen, I have been to meet Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson for the

:51:09. > :51:15.release of Zoolander two. The film predates so much of what we take for

:51:16. > :51:18.granted now... The selfie... He invented the look but somehow people

:51:19. > :51:34.are giving him credit for inventing the selfie!

:51:35. > :51:38.The main news: the UK says it will contest a ruling by a UN panel

:51:39. > :51:40.that Julian Assange should be allowed

:51:41. > :51:48.It says the Wikileaks founder has been Warbitrarily detained"

:51:49. > :51:50.at an embassy in London where he sought asylum three

:51:51. > :51:54.Sweden and the UK have an independent obligation under article

:51:55. > :51:57.three to assess whether an individual would face this on wood

:51:58. > :52:01.extradition and persecution that would violate their rights, in the

:52:02. > :52:06.case of Julian Assange, he would risk cruel and inhumane treatment.

:52:07. > :52:09.The NHS in England could save billions every year,

:52:10. > :52:11.a review finds, including two billion managing staff better

:52:12. > :52:17.The author, Labour peer Lord Carter, also says that ?900 million could be

:52:18. > :52:23.saved if people were discharged from hospital more quickly.

:52:24. > :52:26.David Cameron is holding talks in Poland and Denmark

:52:27. > :52:29.in a bid to win support for his plans for EU reform.

:52:30. > :52:32.But the prime minister faces growing pressure at home as a new poll

:52:33. > :52:37.suggests a strong lead for Britons who want to leave the EU.

:52:38. > :52:39.Democrats Hilary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have clashed over

:52:40. > :52:41.foreign policy, campaign funding and health spending

:52:42. > :53:10.In a face to face debate they argued over foreign policy, health spending

:53:11. > :53:16.and Clinton's Wall Street fees for speaking engagements. And - the loss

:53:17. > :53:19.of a soul man. Maurice White, the founder and leader of Earth, Wind

:53:20. > :53:21.and Fire, has died in the US, at the age of 74. He had Parkinson's

:53:22. > :53:23.disease. The band's massive hits included Boogie Wonderland,

:53:24. > :53:25.September and After the Love has gone. Three people have been

:53:26. > :53:26.announced as winners of GCHQ's Christmas puzzle challenge. The

:53:27. > :53:29.budding code breakers beat 600,000 people to come the closest to fully

:53:30. > :53:30.solving the challenges set by the Uk's national intelligence and

:53:31. > :53:41.security agency. Latest in the sport. Excitement

:53:42. > :53:45.building towards what has often been described as the greatest tube in

:53:46. > :53:48.rugby, talking about the six Nations, especially of last year 's

:53:49. > :53:52.tournament was anything to go by, Ireland snatch the title from Wales

:53:53. > :53:58.and England on a thrilling final day. All gets under way in 24 hours'

:53:59. > :54:05.time, France take on Italy in Paris, 100-year-old rivalries are renewed

:54:06. > :54:08.in the oldest international fixture for the Calcutta Cup, between

:54:09. > :54:11.England and Scotland. When they talk about the six Nations being the

:54:12. > :54:14.greatest championship in the world, that is the whole reason why it is

:54:15. > :54:20.the greatest, because every game means so much, means so much to the

:54:21. > :54:24.fans and to the nations. You cannot get excited about it, you are not

:54:25. > :54:28.going to get excited about anything! COMMENTATOR: Chris Robshaw...

:54:29. > :54:41.Ford... Straight through, George Ford as the try. Not only the 15, we

:54:42. > :54:47.are trained to score to 30... -- we are training a big squad and a good

:54:48. > :54:54.squad of 30. Bennett gets the try for Scotland. They have hit back

:54:55. > :54:58.with a first attack of the match. A win is a win, we are not thinking

:54:59. > :55:03.too far ahead, what is important to us is how we start the game, we have

:55:04. > :55:08.had two weeks to prepare, we have been so detailed, preparations have

:55:09. > :55:12.gone well, we have worked hard. For us it is trying to look at what

:55:13. > :55:15.England have done in the past, look at what Eddie Jones has done with

:55:16. > :55:20.his squad, and tried to be prepared for anything that could come our way

:55:21. > :55:25.on Saturday. You are never going to be in tidy sure about what they will

:55:26. > :55:31.throw at you. Six weeks of thrilling international rugby begins this

:55:32. > :55:34.weekend. Coverage begins live on BBC One, 1:30pm, France against Italy,

:55:35. > :55:41.before Scotland against England at Murrayfield, kick-off, 4:50pm. On

:55:42. > :55:44.Sunday, Ireland begin their bid for an president of the six Nations

:55:45. > :55:50.title in a row, the reigning champions taking on Wales in Dublin

:55:51. > :55:55.at 3pm. The women's six Nations also kicks off, Scotland face England

:55:56. > :56:00.today, defending champions Ireland face Wales on Saturday. Switching

:56:01. > :56:04.codes, rugby league's super league season began with an unexpected bang

:56:05. > :56:09.last night, Leeds Rhinos, winners of the treble last season, an done at

:56:10. > :56:11.home against Warrington Wolves, with three of Leeds pot veteran stars

:56:12. > :56:17.including former captain Kevin Sinfield now retired, Rhinos were

:56:18. > :56:21.narrowly beaten 12-10 at Headingley, Kevin Penny with a converted try.

:56:22. > :56:28.That made the difference. There he goes. Over the line. Before I go,

:56:29. > :56:30.disappointing news, Jessica Ennis-Hill has decided to miss the

:56:31. > :56:35.indoor athletics season because of a sore Achilles heel, the heft apple

:56:36. > :56:39.and world champion says that she is really frustrated, no surprises, but

:56:40. > :56:43.that it is only precautionary, she would like to be 100% ready to

:56:44. > :56:47.defend her Olympic title in Rio de Janeiro. She has made a comeback

:56:48. > :56:51.before and no doubt she will do it again. -- the heptathlon champion.

:56:52. > :56:59.STUDIO: Top story developing as we go on air, United Nations panel has

:57:00. > :57:02.in the last hour confirmed its ruling that Julian Assange, with the

:57:03. > :57:07.late founder, has been arbitrarily detained. It calls for him to be

:57:08. > :57:11.given the right to compensation from Britain and Sweden. -- Wikileaks. He

:57:12. > :57:18.voluntarily entered the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in 2012 seeking to

:57:19. > :57:21.avoid extradition to Sweden where he is wanted for questioning over an

:57:22. > :57:26.allegation of rate. He denies the allegation. Police say that he will

:57:27. > :57:43.be arrested if he leaves the building. -- rape. Expert was asked

:57:44. > :57:49.how binding this opinion is. It is an opinion, it is legally binding to

:57:50. > :57:53.the extent that it is based on international human rights. Which

:57:54. > :57:56.has been ratified by states. When a state ratifies a convention, in this

:57:57. > :58:01.case, convention on civilian political rights, that stays as the

:58:02. > :58:09.obligation to implement its provisions. Indirectly, yes, it is

:58:10. > :58:16.binding. In the last few moments we have heard that the UK will contest

:58:17. > :58:18.the decision. Downing Street says a European Arrest Warrant is in place

:58:19. > :58:22.so the UK has a legal obligation to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden.

:58:23. > :58:28.Geoffrey Robertson is Julian Assange's UK lawyer. What trumps our

:58:29. > :58:35.obligation to Sweden is that Sweden has acted contrary to international

:58:36. > :58:40.law. We have no obligation to Sweden. But Sweden is bound morally

:58:41. > :58:44.by the judgment as well. Of the asleep, in order to enforce it,

:58:45. > :58:50.Britain should get together with Sweden and find a way out, and

:58:51. > :58:57.perhaps compensate the Ecuadorians for putting up Julian Assange. -- of

:58:58. > :59:02.the asleep, in order to enforce it. That is the extent of Britain's

:59:03. > :59:06.commitment to international law, we are the leading soft power, we have

:59:07. > :59:15.more soft power in the world than anybody else. -- obviously, in order

:59:16. > :59:17.to enforce it. In a moment we'll be talking to the Government's human

:59:18. > :59:19.rights minister Dominc Raab and Peter Bleksley who's a former Met

:59:20. > :59:59.Police Officer, but first here's a reminder of the story so far.

:00:00. > :00:12.We have seen the distortion of evidence and facts, by prosecuting

:00:13. > :00:22.authorities in Sweden, revealing, in minute detail, throughout the course

:00:23. > :00:26.of the day. Under our law, with Julian Assange having exhausted all

:00:27. > :00:29.options on people, the British authorities are under a binding

:00:30. > :00:33.obligation to extradite him to Sweden. We must carry out that

:00:34. > :00:54.obligation and we fully intend to do so.

:00:55. > :01:02.As Wikileaks stands under threat, so does the freedom of expression, and

:01:03. > :01:10.the health of all our societies. I ask Barack Obama to do the right

:01:11. > :01:11.thing. The United States must renounce its witchhunt against

:01:12. > :01:38.Wikileaks. He has told the people of the world

:01:39. > :01:45.and the United States that there is mass unlawful

:01:46. > :01:48.interception of their It is hard in there without the air

:01:49. > :02:39.and the sunlight, without any Let's go live to the Ecuadorian

:02:40. > :02:47.Embassy. Richard Lister is outside. Ring as up-to-date with the ruling

:02:48. > :02:51.and reaction. In terms of the latest reaction, we've just had this from

:02:52. > :02:58.the Foreign Secretary. He says Juliana Sarge is a fugitive from

:02:59. > :03:02.justice and the UN panel report is ridiculous -- he says Julian Assange

:03:03. > :03:10.is a fugitive from justice. The Foreign Office is not taking any

:03:11. > :03:15.track with this report. It says it changes nothing and will contest the

:03:16. > :03:23.report. It does not even recognise a concept of political asylum Juliana

:03:24. > :03:28.-- Julian Assange has been granted. It says it did not sign the

:03:29. > :03:35.convention that ratifies it. It does not support it. This changes nothing

:03:36. > :03:39.on the ground. The British government is bullish and the Met

:03:40. > :03:45.police have said if he steps out of the embassy he will be arrested. I

:03:46. > :03:52.think he can claim a moral victory to his campaign, he has attracted a

:03:53. > :03:56.lot of international attention. The report might be grounds for a

:03:57. > :04:04.challenge at the European Court of Human Rights, we can wait and see,

:04:05. > :04:09.but the government is standing firm. We can talk to the human rights

:04:10. > :04:17.minister at Westminster. Also with me is a former Met police officer.

:04:18. > :04:25.We can speak about the cost of the operation. What is your reaction to

:04:26. > :04:29.this judgment? It is not a judgment, it has not been handed down by a

:04:30. > :04:37.court, it is an opinion coming from a panel on the UN. We want to

:04:38. > :04:43.consider it very carefully. Not only is it legally flawed, but the facts

:04:44. > :04:54.are upside down. There is a lack of moral clarity. It is not Britain

:04:55. > :04:57.detaining Julian Assange. He was on conditional police bail, he

:04:58. > :05:03.absconded and pulled himself up in the Ecuadorian Embassy. He did so to

:05:04. > :05:10.avoid an allegation of rape in Sweden. It is not a banana republic,

:05:11. > :05:13.it is a country with a very well-respected justice system. What

:05:14. > :05:20.needs to happen is the Ecuadorian speed to engage with the Swedes in

:05:21. > :05:24.good faith to get this resolved. Frankly, the UN opinion does not

:05:25. > :05:28.help resolve this at all. If anything it rather undermines the

:05:29. > :05:37.credibility of the UN, and that is very regrettable. When you say that

:05:38. > :05:46.you want the Ecuadorians and Sweden to negotiate, what do you want to

:05:47. > :05:49.happen? We think the warrant needs to be respected, if there are any

:05:50. > :05:58.issues about what happens that is a bilateral issue. It is an abuse of

:05:59. > :06:02.the system to see someone hold themselves up in an embassy when

:06:03. > :06:08.they are accused of something serious in a country, it is Sweden,

:06:09. > :06:16.you can get a fair trial. This should be resolvable and should

:06:17. > :06:19.happen quickly. His supporters say this is as it is because he is a

:06:20. > :06:30.dissident, the are concerned about extradition. Looking at the reports

:06:31. > :06:33.about they've come to the decision, the working group says because he

:06:34. > :06:45.has been subjected to different forms of liberty deprivation, that

:06:46. > :06:55.was arbitrary because he was held in isolation and a lack of diligence.

:06:56. > :07:02.That is factually wrong and legally flawed. He was on conditional lease

:07:03. > :07:14.bail and absconded, breaking those conditions. The idea that Britain or

:07:15. > :07:21.Sweden is detaining him is upside down. What you think of the cost of

:07:22. > :07:27.the detaining him? It is ridiculous. I think the taxpayer will be

:07:28. > :07:34.concerned about it and it is an abuse of the system. I understand

:07:35. > :07:45.there is a court case, but let's member whilst everyone allowed this

:07:46. > :07:48.man in, he is accused of rape, he has the right to a fair trial but

:07:49. > :07:56.does anyone seriously think he would not get that in Sweden? Let's bring

:07:57. > :08:03.in the former Met police officer. Spell out what that ?12 million

:08:04. > :08:07.amounts to in terms of police hours? The peace officers need to be

:08:08. > :08:11.played, we've seen a large number posted outside the embassy, albeit

:08:12. > :08:29.they've been withdrawn in recent weeks. When you start looking at the

:08:30. > :08:33.salaries they earn, between 20 and ?30,000, multiply that by half a

:08:34. > :08:38.dozen, that is one shift, there will be three shift today. Suddenly you

:08:39. > :08:50.can see how the cost starts to mount up. It is ?12 million and counting.

:08:51. > :08:53.Whilst there are not any officers outside the embassy anymore I would

:08:54. > :09:00.strongly suspect there was a covert operation point with officers with

:09:01. > :09:03.binoculars trained on the front door because the Met police cannot face

:09:04. > :09:11.the embarrassment of Julian Assange popping out, slipping into a car and

:09:12. > :09:25.ab scolding. What do you think about the fact the UN has got involved? We

:09:26. > :09:32.want to support them, is consistent in promoting human rights around the

:09:33. > :09:41.world, but I think we struggle when you get reports like this which are

:09:42. > :09:47.so often upside down. We will behave the right way which is to go to the

:09:48. > :09:52.UN, correct the facts, explain why it is not Britain detaining Julian

:09:53. > :10:10.Assange, why he has brought this on himself. His supporters say that by

:10:11. > :10:14.saying what you're saying you under reminding -- undermining the

:10:15. > :10:24.authority of a report if it goes another way, and you want to accept

:10:25. > :10:33.the findings. Jeffrey is very well paid as the lawyer, but what is

:10:34. > :10:40.undermining the credibility of the UN is reports like this, which

:10:41. > :10:53.people will think lack moral clarity. We will engage

:10:54. > :10:59.constructively but robustly. Remember, it is the Ecuadorians who

:11:00. > :11:03.need to step up to the plate. Frankly, this talk about human

:11:04. > :11:08.rights, people want to look at the Ecuadorian government. It is a

:11:09. > :11:19.double standard. The UN says he should be entitled to compensation.

:11:20. > :11:29.If moves begin for compensation to be sought, how would the UK

:11:30. > :11:36.Government see that? We would contest that rigorous way. He would

:11:37. > :11:41.not be achieving any compensation, the mess that has been created as a

:11:42. > :11:48.result of his actions would ensure that. Thank you very much. Thank you

:11:49. > :11:55.for joining us in the studio on the cost of the operation. This morning

:11:56. > :12:00.we be looking at cut-price supermarket and sent one of our

:12:01. > :12:05.reporters on a challenge. A new store has opened selling everything

:12:06. > :12:09.for 25p. It is an attempt to undercut the discount food market. A

:12:10. > :12:29.reporter was at EasyFood this morning. He's now at Lidl. Compare

:12:30. > :12:34.how it was. At EasyFood I bought tea and coffee and cereal and biscuits.

:12:35. > :12:39.Each item was 25p. I've come to Lidl and bought the same items and I've

:12:40. > :13:05.spent ?4.10. I spent more here. We will check in

:13:06. > :13:13.later. Where are you going next? I am going to Aldi. Thank you for

:13:14. > :13:19.joining us. Still to come... We will discuss how home care can be

:13:20. > :13:23.improved so that bed blocking, where elderly patients are kept in

:13:24. > :13:28.hospital, can be tackled. As shoppers flock to a new supermarket

:13:29. > :13:37.offering basic items for 25p, could the competitors cut their prices in

:13:38. > :13:42.response? The main news this morning, the Foreign Secretary says

:13:43. > :13:52.a ruling that Julian Assange should get compensation for being

:13:53. > :14:04.arbitrarily detained is ridiculous. He says Julian Assange is a fugitive

:14:05. > :14:08.from justice. They assess whether an individual would face the risk of

:14:09. > :14:15.onward extradition and persecution. That would violate the rights of

:14:16. > :14:24.Julian Assange. Not only is it legally flawed, I think the facts

:14:25. > :14:29.are upside down. It is not Britain detaining him. Better management

:14:30. > :14:39.could save the NHS in England billions of pounds every year, an

:14:40. > :14:44.independent reviewer has found. There is a big problem with delays

:14:45. > :14:52.in discharging hospital patients. David Cameron is in Poland and

:14:53. > :14:59.Denmark intensifying his efforts. The parameter faces pressure at home

:15:00. > :15:07.as a new poll shows the reform package has led to more people

:15:08. > :15:11.wanting to leave the EU. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have had

:15:12. > :15:17.a head-to-head debate, clashing over health policy, and the money Hillary

:15:18. > :15:33.Clinton has taken. The world of soul has lost Maurice White, a member of

:15:34. > :15:45.Earth, Wind and Fire. Three people have been announced as the winner of

:15:46. > :15:52.GCHQ's Christmas challenge. We will speak more about that shortly.

:15:53. > :16:03.Is time to catch up with the latest on the build-up to the six Nations.

:16:04. > :16:10.Rugbys greatest championship, according to Eddie Jones, now just

:16:11. > :16:13.24 hours away. England travel to Murrayfield for the opening match

:16:14. > :16:19.against cotton, an international fixture which is over 100 years old,

:16:20. > :16:20.live on BBC One tomorrow. Champions Ireland face Wales on Monday. --

:16:21. > :16:35.Sunday. Switching codes, rugby

:16:36. > :16:36.league's super league season began with an unexpected bang

:16:37. > :16:39.last night, Leeds Rhinos, winners of the treble last

:16:40. > :16:41.season, an done at home against Warrington Wolves,

:16:42. > :16:43.with three of Leeds pot veteran stars including former captain

:16:44. > :16:45.Kevin Sinfield now retired, Rhinos were narrowly beaten

:16:46. > :16:47.12-10 at Headingley, Jessica Ennis-Hill

:16:48. > :16:51.has decided to miss because of a sore Achilles

:16:52. > :16:54.heel, the heft apple and world champion says

:16:55. > :16:56.that she is really frustrated, no surprises, but that it is only

:16:57. > :16:59.precautionary, she would like to be 100% ready to defend her

:17:00. > :17:07.Olympic title in Rio. Is that if the government says that

:17:08. > :17:11.better management could cut the cost of running the NHS in England by

:17:12. > :17:17.billions of pounds every year, the report by a Labour peer, Lord

:17:18. > :17:20.Carter, says big improvements could be made if all hospitals learned

:17:21. > :17:21.from the best. He said sectors where savings could be made included:

:17:22. > :17:22.estate management, purchase of supplies, use of medicines and

:17:23. > :17:30.staffing. In his report he says delays

:17:31. > :17:32.in transferring patients out of hospital after treatment could be

:17:33. > :17:34.costing the NHS in England The independent review,

:17:35. > :17:41.that aims to find ways the NHS can save cash, says one in 10 beds

:17:42. > :17:44.are occupied by someone who was medically

:17:45. > :17:45.fit to be released. Lord Carter also called for better

:17:46. > :17:48.procurement and staff management and said

:17:49. > :17:54.the drugs bill should be cut This is what Lord Carter told BBC

:17:55. > :18:05.Breakfast this morning. It is certainly not going to beat

:18:06. > :18:11.eBay did is 5 billion in a total spend of 150 billion, 55 billion in

:18:12. > :18:16.acute hospitals, where the really difficult things are undertaken. The

:18:17. > :18:19.King at it, if we can work more efficiently, we can certainly buy

:18:20. > :18:23.things more efficiently, and we can make the whole system run. The good

:18:24. > :18:28.point is that we have excellent hospitals that are doing it well, we

:18:29. > :18:29.know how to do it, the issue is how we get everyone up to the standards

:18:30. > :18:33.of the best. from Unison, the union

:18:34. > :18:38.which represents many NHS staff. Also here is Richard Murray,

:18:39. > :18:41.from The King's Fund think tank. And from Coventry is

:18:42. > :18:42.Councillor Izzi Seccombe, from the Local Government

:18:43. > :18:53.Association. First of all, Richard, have new

:18:54. > :18:57.areas being highlighted here that have not been highlighted before,

:18:58. > :19:00.because it feels as though these are areas where money could be saved.

:19:01. > :19:06.Most of the areas have been identified in the past. Real

:19:07. > :19:11.difference that has come through is the help about how you would reduce

:19:12. > :19:14.the savings, what is it that local hospitals need to do and what

:19:15. > :19:18.support can they be given, addictive Eilidh Child on benchmarking, so

:19:19. > :19:21.that they compare themselves to other parts of the service. It can

:19:22. > :19:24.be difficult to know what might be the cheapest price or what they

:19:25. > :19:29.should be looking to do on things like the States. Other areas like

:19:30. > :19:33.procurement, management of the states, procurement, many people

:19:34. > :19:35.full these are areas for savings, but the real key is giving the

:19:36. > :19:41.service more support in releasing them. Does Lord Carter deliver an

:19:42. > :19:46.effective simplicity here, that could provide a template for every

:19:47. > :19:53.NHS Trust to know how they can do it easily. Hospitals are big

:19:54. > :19:57.businesses, it is quite complicated, what is, but they did is to make

:19:58. > :20:01.sure the ambition is not too unrealistic. A lot of the savings

:20:02. > :20:05.being delivered by 2020, some years away, that is a good thing, it is

:20:06. > :20:08.moralistic, it means it will not really help the NHS in the funding

:20:09. > :20:14.challenge this year and over the next two to three years. For the

:20:15. > :20:19.local government Association, how do you see this, bed blocking...

:20:20. > :20:24.Questions about the price of drugs... They sound like things that

:20:25. > :20:30.we have heard a lot about before, why is it so difficult for hospitals

:20:31. > :20:35.to tackle those issues. The role that local government can play, and

:20:36. > :20:39.that we have supported, is that we should be looking at a whole systems

:20:40. > :20:45.approach. We truly value the NHS, and the role they play, and

:20:46. > :20:48.hospitals, but what we don't want is people sitting in hospitals when

:20:49. > :20:52.they should not be, we want them back at home and supported in their

:20:53. > :20:56.independence, and trying to get back to the life they want to lead. That

:20:57. > :21:02.is where we come into it, where social care comes into it. As long

:21:03. > :21:06.as we are not funding social care properly, we are not tackling a

:21:07. > :21:10.whole systems approach. For me that is the critical factor, we need now

:21:11. > :21:15.to have support, financial support, to look at how we drive down the

:21:16. > :21:20.dependency, and try to keep people independent at home. Is it the case

:21:21. > :21:23.then that it is pointing out that effectively money can be saved here,

:21:24. > :21:28.as long as we spend money there, on social care. There is a lot of truth

:21:29. > :21:32.in that, you cannot discharge people from hospital until services are

:21:33. > :21:36.available outside of hospital. It is not just social care, also things

:21:37. > :21:40.like district nurses which are part of the NHS, which have been

:21:41. > :21:44.declining. The outlook for social care spending is quite grim, there

:21:45. > :21:51.is a risk that the problem will get worse before it gets better. What do

:21:52. > :21:55.you think about the report? How constructive is it? There is good

:21:56. > :21:58.things, it is good to point out where the variations are, we are

:21:59. > :22:01.disappointed it seems to have been the directive route, rather than

:22:02. > :22:06.having individual solutions and individual trusts, how you cut the

:22:07. > :22:10.overhead corporate and administrative costs, and absolute

:22:11. > :22:13.figure could be trouble Matip for a number of trusts, and does not deal

:22:14. > :22:18.with some of the issues about why some trusts may have these

:22:19. > :22:24.variations. The big failing, if you like, for me, when I read it, it

:22:25. > :22:26.talks about the problems in delays and discharges but there is no

:22:27. > :22:34.recognition whatsoever of the massive cuts that local authorities

:22:35. > :22:37.have seen in their funding, it averages at 40% cuts, to local

:22:38. > :22:42.authorities, and funding. Although many have tried to protect social

:22:43. > :22:48.care funding, there has still been cuts of around 25 to 30% on social

:22:49. > :22:52.care funding, my own counsel, south London, that has had 56% cuts in

:22:53. > :23:04.funding since 2010, and expecting more. Do you see any thing actually

:23:05. > :23:08.changing on that front? We continue to support the whole systems

:23:09. > :23:18.approach, we recognise that the government have addressed in part

:23:19. > :23:26.the issues around funding which will help. But it only helps in part, and

:23:27. > :23:30.there is still a gap, a funding gap, that we would like to address, of

:23:31. > :23:36.about 700 million, if they brought forward the better care fund, now,

:23:37. > :23:39.that would help us to start to deliver the systems approach that I

:23:40. > :23:45.talked about earlier, now, which is the issue that your other

:23:46. > :23:51.interviewers have addressed. We need to deal with it this year. TUC any

:23:52. > :23:58.thing actually materially changing as a result of this report? A lot of

:23:59. > :24:04.things will potentially change, how hospitals and all the states, how

:24:05. > :24:08.they manage administration spending, the worry is the one around social

:24:09. > :24:13.care, extra money, that is quite difficult to do at the current time.

:24:14. > :24:20.Procurement, why has it taken so long, cost of drugs. There is a lot

:24:21. > :24:22.of drugs, many different types of drugs, you need transparency, one

:24:23. > :24:26.hospital does not automatically know what another has paid unless a

:24:27. > :24:30.system is put into reveal that information, most hospitals are

:24:31. > :24:39.competing, it not in their interests to reveal how much they are managing

:24:40. > :24:42.to pay for things. This tries to make sure that there is

:24:43. > :24:47.transparency, that people know the prices that everyone is pain, and in

:24:48. > :24:51.some cases that the NHS can come together and buy as a group and push

:24:52. > :25:01.the prices down. Thank you very much joining us.

:25:02. > :25:04.It all started with a Christmas card from the head of Britain's code

:25:05. > :25:16.breaking intelligence agency GCHQ. Inside was a link which led

:25:17. > :25:19.to the first stage of a puzzle. Since then it's gone viral,

:25:20. > :25:22.and thousands have tried to solve it Three people came close to cracking

:25:23. > :25:26.it, but the competition has now closed and Britain's finest

:25:27. > :25:28.cryptographers remain unbeaten. In a moment we'll ask how

:25:29. > :25:32.but first our security correspondent has been finding out how to solve

:25:33. > :25:35.at least part of the problem. And as you might expect with a quiz

:25:36. > :25:39.set by GCHQ the people behind VOICEOVER: Tell us how one

:25:40. > :25:42.of the puzzles is solved. It is a sum involving

:25:43. > :25:44.Roman numerals. There is a secret feature to this

:25:45. > :25:47.question, which is that we can reinterpret one or other of these xs

:25:48. > :25:49.to be multiplications. X is obviously used

:25:50. > :25:52.as a multiplication sign sometimes. Here is how you solve

:25:53. > :26:09.another of the puzzles. When you arrange these squares

:26:10. > :26:11.correctly, you get the first word

:26:12. > :26:16.of famous two word films. The arrow and the dice surrounding

:26:17. > :26:21.the words point you to one of the letters from the second word

:26:22. > :26:25.of the title, and when you have all of these letters

:26:26. > :26:27.they reveal the answer. They have called it the hardest

:26:28. > :26:30.puzzle in the world and it takes some serious intellectual firepower

:26:31. > :26:31.to solve, A glass paperweight,

:26:32. > :26:48.and a fair bit of bragging rights. STUDIO: With me in studio is Jessica

:26:49. > :26:50.Williams a final year student on Computer Games Programming at De

:26:51. > :26:52.Montfort University. David McBryan one of three winners in the GCHQ's

:26:53. > :26:54.christmas puzzle is in Edinburgh. And in Swindon is Professor Alan

:26:55. > :26:56.Woodward, a specialist in cyber security at the University of

:26:57. > :27:05.Surrey. Jessica, you are our uber-brain in the studio, we expect

:27:06. > :27:10.you to crackhead! -- crack it. Thank you everyone for joining us, coming

:27:11. > :27:19.straight to you, David, well done. How long did you send on it? -- how

:27:20. > :27:24.long did you spend on it? It was published on a Thursday, I had it

:27:25. > :27:28.done by the early hours of the Sunday... Basically, three days.

:27:29. > :27:34.What is your background, what kind of skills have you got that made you

:27:35. > :27:38.look at it in a way that most of us would look at it and think, I have

:27:39. > :27:42.no idea what that is supposed to be about. The initial puzzle is a type

:27:43. > :27:56.that I have seen plenty of times before. That was straightforward. I

:27:57. > :28:04.did maths at university, but since then, I have worked as a quizmaster,

:28:05. > :28:11.writing quiz questions. I spend my spare time doing puzzles. This was

:28:12. > :28:17.very much in my field. Jennifer, you are going to look at it for us...

:28:18. > :28:23.Presumably you have already had a good look. I have had a peek. When

:28:24. > :28:28.you look at something like this, how do you own picket? You begin looking

:28:29. > :28:42.at the patterns that you can see, double letters, things like that,

:28:43. > :28:47.anything that happens repeatedly. It becomes clear within the first 30

:28:48. > :28:55.seconds, all you will be on it for hours. It depends upon how your

:28:56. > :28:59.brain works, sometimes you look at a crossword, and if you are attuned to

:29:00. > :29:05.the person setting the crossword then you can guess it. Yes, I would

:29:06. > :29:13.say so. Have you looked at this one and gone, YES! LAUGHTER

:29:14. > :29:23.When I got it myself, I did not get that far. Do not be ashamed. Talk us

:29:24. > :29:31.through. That makes no sense to me, what does it say to you? It looks

:29:32. > :29:38.like a load of colours to make! LAUGHTER

:29:39. > :29:43.I would begin by looking at the opposite words, seeing if there was

:29:44. > :29:47.any connection between them. Then if I could not get any headway that

:29:48. > :29:52.way, then I would think about the colours in the words, some kind of

:29:53. > :30:00.correlation. Then there is the numbers. I am looking at it that way

:30:01. > :30:03.as well, I am going to leave Yuji Carreon puzzling, while we bring in

:30:04. > :30:11.the cyber security experts, Alan Wood Wood, it is obviously a bit of

:30:12. > :30:15.fun, but the point was, these are the sort of things that are used by

:30:16. > :30:23.GCHQ as part of their recruitment, and why is that? -- Alan Woodward.

:30:24. > :30:26.This goes all the way back to the days of Bletchley Park, to find

:30:27. > :30:31.people with the right mindset, they put puzzles in the Times, not just

:30:32. > :30:34.crosswords but logic puzzles, and the kind of skills they are after

:30:35. > :30:39.our people who can think will logically, but also laterally. And

:30:40. > :30:45.also one of the things you find with most of these puzzles is that there

:30:46. > :30:48.is some ambiguity potentially in the answer, one that was in Gordon's

:30:49. > :30:55.package, with the Roman numerals, for example, the X can mean ten, it

:30:56. > :30:58.can also mean multiplied by, there are several answers. Your answers

:30:59. > :31:04.they were looking forward all of them put together! You were nodding

:31:05. > :31:09.vigorously at that point. At the ambiguity, yes, that was the most

:31:10. > :31:13.frustrating aspect, really, of solving it, you did not know when

:31:14. > :31:21.you could read it, some of the answers were clearly right, but

:31:22. > :31:24.others... Not so sure. Particularly the Roman numerals. The initial

:31:25. > :31:31.answer was too obvious, a couple more... OK, that works... Then there

:31:32. > :31:34.were some others... They were looking for us to express again not

:31:35. > :31:43.just the question but the answer as well! In terms of the two meanings

:31:44. > :31:46.of the X. Do you want to be a spook question mark definitely not!

:31:47. > :31:48.LAUGHTER I think that you got a paperweight

:31:49. > :32:01.as a prize. I don't think it is the skills that

:32:02. > :32:07.are used, there is some correlation but it is very different to modern

:32:08. > :32:12.cryptology, which is computer-based, most of these things, you could work

:32:13. > :32:18.out with a pen and paper. It is correct to say they are the kind of

:32:19. > :32:24.skills they would be looking for in Bletchley Park but I don't think

:32:25. > :32:30.this was ever intended as a recruitment tool. Tell us about the

:32:31. > :32:36.bigger picture which is looked for when it comes to recruiting. It is

:32:37. > :32:44.obviously not just cryptographers but analysts. One of the skills they

:32:45. > :32:52.look for our people that can piece together, look for patterns in

:32:53. > :33:05.things, try and understand where things are not what they appear to

:33:06. > :33:09.be. But also, they are looking for people who can deal with ambiguity

:33:10. > :33:13.and deal with where you do not know what the question was. Quite often

:33:14. > :33:19.there were not instructions, you had to figure it out. They were looking

:33:20. > :33:23.for people who would go a little bit deeper. A couple of questions, you

:33:24. > :33:36.got an answer and if you went back to it as I did, one of the

:33:37. > :33:42.observations is, there was a hidden question on the final page, the

:33:43. > :33:55.crest of GCHQ has leaves in it, which were shaded differently. When

:33:56. > :34:04.you looked at it, it spells out a message, which was a question. The

:34:05. > :34:13.question was, name the technique for hiding these in images. You're

:34:14. > :34:15.nodding, that is your bag. I was looking at that challenge this

:34:16. > :34:22.morning. If I had phoned that I would have been on it right away.

:34:23. > :34:28.Has it made you want to be a spook? I would love to be but you're not

:34:29. > :34:44.supposed to say that! Good luck if you ever decide to do that. Thank

:34:45. > :34:48.you for joining us. Some breaking news, the family of PC David Rath

:34:49. > :35:03.band have lost their negligence claim against the police. He was

:35:04. > :35:11.shot by Raul Mote -- Raoul Moat. He would not have been stationary had

:35:12. > :35:14.he been warned by senior officers. He said if commanders had rushed

:35:15. > :35:25.orders another serious incident could have occurred. Suicide is one

:35:26. > :35:30.of the biggest killers in the UK. In 2014, 6142 people killed themselves.

:35:31. > :35:38.Men are three times more likely to kill themselves but suicide rates

:35:39. > :35:43.among women are also at the highest in a decade. We spoke to a man whose

:35:44. > :36:10.daughter to her own life. The words of a grieving father. She

:36:11. > :36:16.was always ready to give herself. And I was a wife, a mother of two

:36:17. > :36:21.children. Last April, she faced redundancy, believing she failed

:36:22. > :36:31.those she loved most. In this beer she took her own life. She was 44.

:36:32. > :36:39.-- in despair. The Voice just said, and is dead. I was silent, she is

:36:40. > :36:47.dead? She said they had not reached me before now. I put the phone down.

:36:48. > :36:55.The first thing is, I am angry, my fist is on the mantelpiece, you want

:36:56. > :37:01.to turn it back, this is not real, it has not happened. I felt angry we

:37:02. > :37:12.did not get down there sooner, and I thought, I've got to go out there.

:37:13. > :37:23.If you're guilty, because you love her so much, and you think, why did

:37:24. > :37:28.you not tell me it was so bad? All these people are so shocked and

:37:29. > :37:36.would have absolutely sprinted to support you to get you through this.

:37:37. > :37:38.Michael and his partner now help others cope with what is left

:37:39. > :37:58.behind. The suicide literally brought

:37:59. > :38:13.Michael to his knees. Emotionally, he was... It was terrible to see.

:38:14. > :38:24.All that is left is the memory of her daughter. When she is not there,

:38:25. > :38:28.you miss the companionship. If you could have won more conversation

:38:29. > :38:44.what would you say? I would say that I loved you always and always will.

:38:45. > :38:51.If you have been affected by these issues and would like details of

:38:52. > :38:55.organisations which offer advice and support you can get in touch with

:38:56. > :39:15.the action line. Lines are open 24 hours. This

:39:16. > :39:17.morning we have been looking at cut-price supermarkets, sending a

:39:18. > :39:29.reporter on a challenge to buy food on a budget. A new shop is selling

:39:30. > :39:40.items for 25p. A reporter was at EasyFood first. Then we sent him to

:39:41. > :39:47.Lidl and Aldi. What is in your shopping bags? I have got a massive

:39:48. > :39:53.breakfast. From the EasyFood shop I bought tea, coffee, jam, cereal and

:39:54. > :39:57.biscuits. I spent ?1 25 because they are doing their February deal where

:39:58. > :40:12.they sell everything that month for 25p. I have just come back from

:40:13. > :40:25.Aldi, I spent ?4 26. Biscuits were cheaper than EasyFood and jam cost

:40:26. > :40:40.65p. At EasyFood I spent 1.20 five. -- ?1 25. The real point here is in

:40:41. > :40:47.a few months, prices will change. Prices will increase and be

:40:48. > :40:52.readjusted again. It will be interesting to go back a few months

:40:53. > :40:58.and do the comparison properly. Thank you. Hurry back so that we can

:40:59. > :41:03.get breakfast. It has been more than a decade since the most famous male

:41:04. > :41:09.model in the world appeared on the screen but now Derek Zoolander is

:41:10. > :41:15.back. The film was box office success for Ben Stiller, and after

:41:16. > :41:22.three attempts to make a sequel, it finally opens in the UK. I had the

:41:23. > :41:26.chance to sit down with Penelope Cruz, who appears in the latest

:41:27. > :41:32.instalment, to find out how much fun she had trying to perfect the pose.

:41:33. > :41:37.I loved making this movie, working with them, being in their company

:41:38. > :41:45.every day, enjoying how funny and talented they are, I love comedy and

:41:46. > :41:51.I am a big fan of comedy. When he gave me the news that he wanted me

:41:52. > :41:59.to be part of it, I was so excited. I'm one of those people who has seen

:42:00. > :42:05.the first one in six times. It is obviously poking fun at the fashion

:42:06. > :42:11.industry. I know that you work in the fashion business and the movie

:42:12. > :42:18.business, is it something that concerns you? I think this is an

:42:19. > :42:25.important question but you're asking me to compare the fashion world with

:42:26. > :42:32.the movie world and it would be a ten minute answer, I discussion. I'm

:42:33. > :42:41.not going to get into that right now! Is it something that bothers

:42:42. > :42:46.you in the movie industry? Sometimes it takes your attention, like when

:42:47. > :42:50.they give facts about what is happening and someone like Jennifer

:42:51. > :42:58.Lawrence is in a position where it is very brave what she does because

:42:59. > :43:01.she could be very comfortable and not complain but she is very

:43:02. > :43:07.generous that she is speaking for all the other women. You speak up if

:43:08. > :43:16.you felt you were not getting the same? I support what she is saying.

:43:17. > :43:23.The fact somebody like her is saying that, it does a lot for all the

:43:24. > :43:28.other women. If you like the first film you will love the second. Thank

:43:29. > :43:34.you very much for your company. If you would like to watch our films

:43:35. > :43:47.you can do it online. Just visit the page. You can find us on the BBC

:43:48. > :43:53.news app. Victoria is here on Monday so join her from 9:15am. Have a

:43:54. > :44:03.lovely weekend and I will see you soon. Goodbye.