02/03/2016

:00:08. > :00:10.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9.15, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

:00:11. > :00:22.Should rugby tackles be banned in schools? Loads of health experts

:00:23. > :00:33.think they should but others say it builds character. We will talk to

:00:34. > :00:39.some of those involved. Also on the programme. We are going to make it

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:00:49. > :00:52.not straightened out by now, she is not go to straighten it out in the

:00:53. > :00:55.next four years. It is clear to night that the states

:00:56. > :00:59.in this -- stakes in this election have never been higher. And the

:01:00. > :01:05.rhetoric we are hearing on the other side has never been lower.

:01:06. > :01:09.likely than ever that Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump will be the two

:01:10. > :01:11.going head to head to be the next US President.

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:02:13. > :02:17.Should tackling in school rugby be banned?

:02:18. > :02:20.That's what dozens of doctors and health experts are calling for -

:02:21. > :02:23.saying injuries from this "high-impact collision sport" can

:02:24. > :02:26.have lifelong consequences for children.

:02:27. > :02:28.Supporters say rugby builds character, and banning tackles

:02:29. > :02:35.But critics argue two-thirds of injuries in youth rugby and most

:02:36. > :02:38.concussions, are down to tackles - they want schools to move to touch

:02:39. > :02:43.The Rugby Football Union is in the middle of a programme

:02:44. > :02:46.aimed at introducing rugby to a million children in state

:02:47. > :02:51.Really keen to hear from you this morning.

:02:52. > :02:53.If you've got kids at school and they play rugby,

:02:54. > :02:55.do get in touch and tell us your reaction.

:02:56. > :02:58.Professor Eric Anderson is one of 70 doctors and health experts who've

:02:59. > :03:04.written to the government calling for a ban on tackles.

:03:05. > :03:06.And in our Belfast studio, David Ross, who was 18

:03:07. > :03:08.when he broke his neck playing school rugby.

:03:09. > :03:13.He's now paralysed from the neck down, and is hoping to play

:03:14. > :03:22.wheelchair rugby at the Rio Olympics.

:03:23. > :03:29.We are joined by Matt Perry, a former England international.

:03:30. > :03:36.Why should contact rugby the band? Children are compelled against their

:03:37. > :03:43.will to play contact rugby in school systems. Some children desire it and

:03:44. > :03:47.there is a place for that. It is community level rugby. But children

:03:48. > :03:52.and their parents are often compelled to play rugby as far as

:03:53. > :03:56.the national curriculum. The Rugby Football Union desires to expand

:03:57. > :04:01.this. Rugby is a great game but it should be a game of touch in a

:04:02. > :04:07.school systems. What injury statistics concerning new? Some of

:04:08. > :04:16.the latest research from Ulster followed 525 school-age boys. There

:04:17. > :04:22.were 204 injuries that were so serious that the athletes could not

:04:23. > :04:28.play for 28 or more days. Amongst that group there were 81 diagnosed

:04:29. > :04:34.concussions. Concussions are difficult to diagnose. If you are

:04:35. > :04:37.subjecting 81 out of every 525 children to concussion in the name

:04:38. > :04:43.of health and well-being, we are doing something wrong. David, you

:04:44. > :04:52.are injured playing rugby at school, left paralysed as a result. What

:04:53. > :04:57.happened to you? I was just on the ground and the tackle happened

:04:58. > :05:03.beside me. The two guys came down on top of me and my neck bent in a way

:05:04. > :05:09.that it should not have. Playing a game changed your life completely.

:05:10. > :05:14.How do you feel? No animosity towards the sport. It is a freak

:05:15. > :05:17.accident. These accidents can happen doing anything. A lot of people are

:05:18. > :05:23.broken their next doing a lot of different things. There is a small

:05:24. > :05:28.margin for these types of injuries. I cannot blame rugby. We are seeing

:05:29. > :05:34.pictures of you playing wheelchair rugby. What do you think about the

:05:35. > :05:40.suggestion that contact rugby should be banned to avoid injuries to

:05:41. > :05:48.children in school? It is something I do not agree with. That would just

:05:49. > :05:53.change the sport. Rugby is a contact sport. It is a key element of the

:05:54. > :05:58.sport. Taking it out of the sport changes it for me. People are

:05:59. > :06:05.getting involved in rugby now it is a contact sport and they know what

:06:06. > :06:09.they are getting into. I think changing the sport is something that

:06:10. > :06:13.should not be done. If a simple change can be made, rugby can be

:06:14. > :06:16.played without the tackling and that could avoid injuries like the one

:06:17. > :06:25.that uses stained, a lot of people say that would be a good thing?

:06:26. > :06:32.Contact is part of rugby. It does change the sport completely. You say

:06:33. > :06:35.it is a small change but it is a massive change for the sport of

:06:36. > :06:41.rugby. Taking contact out of its changes the game. Matt Perry, you

:06:42. > :06:48.play rugby for your career. How do you see this debate? I agree with

:06:49. > :06:55.the argument that you cannot force a child to do something against their

:06:56. > :06:59.will. But the data and research we have now, for me it is down to

:07:00. > :07:02.individual responsibility. There are a number of key parties involved. We

:07:03. > :07:09.talk about coaching. The professional game is a lot safer

:07:10. > :07:15.than we think. There has always been a risk to rugby and contact and to

:07:16. > :07:19.the tackle area. Now with the evidence coming through, we need to

:07:20. > :07:23.use the data in a pragmatic way to understand that if we lose the

:07:24. > :07:29.tackling rugby, we have pretty much lost the game. For me it is about

:07:30. > :07:31.regulating coaching to get outstanding coaches bringing talent

:07:32. > :07:35.through and training them technically to play on the values of

:07:36. > :07:39.what rugby is based on. That is respect, self-awareness,

:07:40. > :07:43.understanding how to protect your own body and the body of your

:07:44. > :07:48.opponent. It is not a collision sport, it is a contact sport. The

:07:49. > :07:57.shrewd players and teams try to find the space. It is a bit nanny state,

:07:58. > :08:03.knowing there is risk in all sports. Horseracing except taking the tackle

:08:04. > :08:07.out of rugby, I think, will ruin it. These are two guys who know the

:08:08. > :08:13.sport well and David badly injured. Neither of them think you are saying

:08:14. > :08:16.the right thing. What they are saying is the sport of rugby. The

:08:17. > :08:21.sport of rugby will survive and it will survive for children who want

:08:22. > :08:26.to play it. But horse racing is not part of the national curriculum.

:08:27. > :08:33.Touch rugby should be. The matter of educating children in how to tackle

:08:34. > :08:36.appropriately, studies of physical education teachers show that only

:08:37. > :08:41.14% feel they are adequately trained to provide rugby tackle provision.

:08:42. > :08:47.There are no requirements for physical education teachers to have

:08:48. > :08:52.a level four, three, two or even one coaching certification. They are not

:08:53. > :09:00.required to have first aid training. So you have PE teachers who are

:09:01. > :09:04.wholly unable to provide to children who do not want to play rugby. We

:09:05. > :09:07.should not be compelling these children to do this. The Rugby

:09:08. > :09:14.football union should be paying attention to teaching abruptly in

:09:15. > :09:18.rugby leagues. -- appropriately. Physical education is not support.

:09:19. > :09:22.It is supposed to be about education, physicality, health and

:09:23. > :09:27.well-being, not subjecting 10% of our students to concussion and 40 to

:09:28. > :09:31.50% to serious injury. I completely agree. And in many ways what you are

:09:32. > :09:37.talking about is regulating coaching. When we hand our kids over

:09:38. > :09:42.to schools we delegate responsibility. That duty of care

:09:43. > :09:46.has to be upheld. If there are a coaches technically coaching our

:09:47. > :09:51.kids to tackle Ronchi. That is not right. We need to go back to the

:09:52. > :09:56.basics. Look at the core values of the sport and how we train the next

:09:57. > :10:00.generation. The uptake of kids wanting to play rugby is massive

:10:01. > :10:06.from the World Cup. Rugby is really there. We do not want to cross that

:10:07. > :10:08.talent but we need to regulate coaching. Parents have a

:10:09. > :10:13.responsibility as well in terms of on the sidelines with their kids not

:10:14. > :10:17.shouting, smash him, but being more constructive about returning to the

:10:18. > :10:24.core values of rugby. Unfortunately, parents do not have a choice. They

:10:25. > :10:27.are compelled for their kids to do as required physical education. We

:10:28. > :10:33.have letters from parents whose children have broken legs playing on

:10:34. > :10:37.the field of PE, who not want to play, who the sport is compelling to

:10:38. > :10:41.play. We need to change the system drastically. In the school system,

:10:42. > :10:47.let's just played touch. It is a faster game. Children find it more

:10:48. > :10:51.enjoyable. Then perhaps we could look to expand in touch rugby to

:10:52. > :10:59.women. Because right now girls and women are not forced to play rugby

:11:00. > :11:04.in school settings like boys. The issue of compelling kids to play? I

:11:05. > :11:08.completely agree. If the child does not want to play rugby, you cannot

:11:09. > :11:17.force anybody to do that. I completely agree with the argument.

:11:18. > :11:20.But on the other side, for individuals and parents of children

:11:21. > :11:25.who want to play the game, do not remove the contact. Train them well,

:11:26. > :11:31.coach them well. We are all in it together. Agreed. Let's not have

:11:32. > :11:37.children who are not being coached well, who do not want to be there

:11:38. > :11:45.and expect them to not get injured. David, what do you think about

:11:46. > :11:50.compelling kids? We had games once a week where the boys did play rugby.

:11:51. > :11:56.That was the only option for the first few months of school. We never

:11:57. > :11:59.played full contact rugby. You only played full contact rugby if you

:12:00. > :12:05.went to the after-school clubs. It was your choice. I do agree that

:12:06. > :12:10.forcing kids to play when they do not want to should not be done. It

:12:11. > :12:16.should be a choice. But for children who want to play rugby, they should

:12:17. > :12:22.be allowed to play contact rugby. If that is what they want to do, they

:12:23. > :12:25.should be allowed to do it. Pulling in a complete system of only touch

:12:26. > :12:29.rugby takes away from those who want to play the sport. We are not

:12:30. > :12:34.arguing to take away contact rugby within community level. We are

:12:35. > :12:38.arguing that within the school system and within the school system

:12:39. > :12:44.alone where ministers have the control over what happens, not the

:12:45. > :12:50.RFU. That rugby be played as touch. Let's bring in the thoughts of

:12:51. > :12:59.viewers. Loads of people getting in touch. Mostly rugby lovers, I would

:13:00. > :13:05.imagine. My son lost his adult top front tooth in school because of a

:13:06. > :13:14.bad tackle. He still has problems. Somebody else, anonymous, rugby,

:13:15. > :13:16.band skiing, worse Reading... None of those things are part of the

:13:17. > :13:34.national curriculum. Those kids that are compelled to

:13:35. > :13:39.play rugby will not go on to play rugby as adults because they do not

:13:40. > :13:44.enjoy rugby. We are trying to protect kids who do not self select

:13:45. > :13:50.into competitive contact rugby. Juliet says it should not be banned.

:13:51. > :13:55.It is ridiculous to suggest it. As long as it is taught properly, they

:13:56. > :14:01.should be no issues. Her son is nine and plays contact rugby for a local

:14:02. > :14:08.club. All proper precautions are taken and he loves it. As do the

:14:09. > :14:16.other 45 children registered. Mats, over your career did you see lots of

:14:17. > :14:19.friends and fellow players injured? I certainly did and I had a number

:14:20. > :14:26.of injuries myself. Concussion being one of them. If I was around now I

:14:27. > :14:34.think I would be in a better place because of the safety protocols.

:14:35. > :14:40.With evidence and with data, what we do not want to get to a position of

:14:41. > :14:44.his where lawyers are making the money out of lawsuits and people

:14:45. > :14:49.suing because there is a grey area. I completely agree that if a child

:14:50. > :14:53.does not want to play rugby they should not be forced to. But

:14:54. > :15:01.undermining the contact in the tackle area when it comes down to

:15:02. > :15:05.responsibility is the key thing. 20 years ago there was more risk. There

:15:06. > :15:10.has always been more risk. Now we can make informed decisions. That

:15:11. > :15:13.goes to the parents and the child to agree to in themselves whether they

:15:14. > :15:18.want to play rugby, and if they do not, they should take themselves

:15:19. > :15:22.out. The ones who do, should crack on and enjoy one of the great

:15:23. > :15:25.cultural games. A lot of people will say it is character building and if

:15:26. > :15:32.you take the tackles out of it it changes the game? There is no

:15:33. > :15:36.research that shows that tackling is the character building component of

:15:37. > :15:39.rugby. If that was the case, you would also say that team sports

:15:40. > :15:43.without tackling our less effective in building character and

:15:44. > :15:50.cooperation amongst players. That is not the case. Where you really do

:15:51. > :15:55.diverged from Eric is on this issue of whether taking tackling outdoors

:15:56. > :16:00.change the sport to an extent that makes it a completely different

:16:01. > :16:12.game? Why do you think tackling is such an important element?

:16:13. > :16:19.It is the camaraderie of knowing how to tackle well. It is quite physical

:16:20. > :16:24.and you can imagine your back and your body getting put in all

:16:25. > :16:30.different kinds of positions. But when I started amateur rugby and got

:16:31. > :16:37.into professional as my choice, it is more about the core values of

:16:38. > :16:46.what rugby is, it is about respect, team and ship, camaraderie, and

:16:47. > :16:50.self-awareness development. If you are making a tackle, you can look at

:16:51. > :16:54.your team-mate and it else character, because it doesn't even

:16:55. > :16:59.need to be a handshake, it is a look, and if we take the contact

:17:00. > :17:03.out, where do we stop? Nothing he said is dependent upon the tackle,

:17:04. > :17:06.the respect, the quality, the cooperation, the looks between

:17:07. > :17:11.team-mates, none of that necessitates that children tackle

:17:12. > :17:14.each other. And a last word from David, because you did suffer a

:17:15. > :17:19.terrible injury, and your life changed as a result of playing

:17:20. > :17:26.rugby, yet you still love it. What is it but you gain from playing

:17:27. > :17:36.rugby then and now in a wheelchair Chris? Just a love of the sport. My

:17:37. > :17:41.family played rugby, I was introduced to it through school, it

:17:42. > :17:46.just built a love for the sport, I started playing sports Risley, I got

:17:47. > :17:49.fitter and stronger, and I just got better quality-of-life, and I still

:17:50. > :17:59.do because of the sport I play now. So the contact element for me was

:18:00. > :18:02.always enjoyable, the looking to your team-mate, putting your body on

:18:03. > :18:07.the line of your team-mates, it gave me an energy that I can't describe

:18:08. > :18:13.that I have got anywhere else. Thank you all very much. David, Eric and

:18:14. > :18:16.Matt. Thank you. The debate is a lively one, loads of comments coming

:18:17. > :18:21.in from you, thank you for them, and do keep them coming. We will be

:18:22. > :18:23.talking more about it after ten, and we will bring your comments in

:18:24. > :18:26.before then and during that conversation as well.

:18:27. > :18:28.Still to come: We'll talk to the mother of a young woman

:18:29. > :18:31.with schizophrenia who jumped off a cliff in Bristol killing herself

:18:32. > :18:36.Public executions, tv bans, constant bombings -

:18:37. > :18:38.this is life for ordinary people forced to live under

:18:39. > :18:42.the Islamic State terror group in Syria - we'll bring

:18:43. > :19:00.First - it's the main news this morning.

:19:01. > :19:03.It's been a good night for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton

:19:04. > :19:06.on the biggest day in the race for the US presidential nominations.

:19:07. > :19:11.Each secured seven out of eleven states on Super Tuesday,

:19:12. > :19:13.although there were important wins for their rivals,

:19:14. > :19:14.who vowed to fight on.

:19:15. > :19:17.As we've been hearing, there's been a call to ban tackling

:19:18. > :19:19.on the school rugby pitch due to the risk of serious

:19:20. > :19:23.More than 70 doctors and academics have written to the government

:19:24. > :19:25.to say there could be lifelong consequences from injuries

:19:26. > :19:26.from the high-impact collision sport.

:19:27. > :19:28.The RFU says it's undertaking a large-scale injury surveillance

:19:29. > :19:43.There's been a warning that that 22-year-olds may now have to work

:19:44. > :19:45.into their 80s unless they start saving

:19:46. > :19:48.Lib Dem MP Steve Webb, formerly the pensions minister,

:19:49. > :19:51.says that even if they do save at the minimum level,

:19:52. > :19:53.they may not be able to retire until they're 77 years old.

:19:54. > :19:56.The UN says Europe is on the cusp of a largely self-induced

:19:57. > :20:00.humanitarian crisis, as a bottleneck of thousands

:20:01. > :20:03.of migrants and refugees continues to build on the border of Greece,

:20:04. > :20:07.trapped by Macedonia's decision to close its border.

:20:08. > :20:10.The Government says Britain will be weaker, less safe and worse off

:20:11. > :20:14.It's published a document setting out the claims.

:20:15. > :20:18.Those wanting the UK to leave the European Union have dismissed

:20:19. > :20:28.the report as a "dodgy dossier" that ignored the risks of staying in.

:20:29. > :20:32.There were 23 near misses of drones and planes around airports in UK

:20:33. > :20:34.last year. Pilots are calling for research

:20:35. > :20:39.into what would happen if a drone In one incident a drone passed

:20:40. > :20:44.within 25 metres of a Boeing 777 After nearly a year aboard

:20:45. > :20:47.the International Space Station a Nasa astronaut and a Russian

:20:48. > :20:50.cosmonaut have returned Their 340-day mission aboard

:20:51. > :20:53.the International Space Station was twice the length of a normal

:20:54. > :20:56.stay, which is will form part of a study looking at the effects

:20:57. > :20:58.of what long-duration spaceflight Let's catch up with all the sport

:20:59. > :21:03.now and join Chris Mitchell - with news that the Premier League

:21:04. > :21:16.title race has taken another twist. Good morning. I'm so happy. Not me,

:21:17. > :21:23.I meditate, but Claudio Ranieri is delighted. His side drew in what

:21:24. > :21:28.many were calling a slip-up, but the boss said he was really pleased with

:21:29. > :21:32.the way his side had played. Leicester are now clear at the top,

:21:33. > :21:37.but Tottenham can overtake them later if they win.

:21:38. > :21:40.The Olympic and world champions Sir Bradley Wiggins and Laura Trott

:21:41. > :21:42.are in the British team at the World Track Cycling

:21:43. > :21:45.They start today at London's Olympic velodrome.

:21:46. > :21:47.Live coverage across BBC TV and we'll keep

:21:48. > :21:52.There's a good page on the BBC Sport website too that -

:21:53. > :21:58.if you need reminding - explains the difference

:21:59. > :21:59.between a keirin or a straightforward scratch race.

:22:00. > :22:03.How about no head gear for the boxers at the Olympics?

:22:04. > :22:06.The change has been made and none of the male boxers in Rio

:22:07. > :22:09.The theory goes that opponents don't hit so hard

:22:10. > :22:14.The change has already been made in amateur boxing.

:22:15. > :22:16.It's now been ratified by the International Olympic

:22:17. > :22:24.Those are our top stories at the sports centre right now. Thank you.

:22:25. > :22:28.The mum of a woman who jumped off a cliff in Bristol with her newborn

:22:29. > :22:30.daughter has told this programme the government need to commit

:22:31. > :22:36.to spending billions of pounds on maternity care for pregnant women

:22:37. > :22:38.and new mothers who experience mental illness.

:22:39. > :22:43.who had schizophrenia, walked out of St Michael's Hospital

:22:44. > :22:45.in Bristol with her daughter Zaani in December 2014.

:22:46. > :22:47.sectioned several times before she became pregnant.

:22:48. > :22:50.At an inquest last year the coroner said that there was a "chain

:22:51. > :22:54.of failures" leading up to her suicide.

:22:55. > :23:02.of failures" leading up to her death.

:23:03. > :23:04.I've been speaking to Charlotte Bevan's mum Rachel Fortune

:23:05. > :23:06.in her first national TV interview and I started

:23:07. > :23:09.by asking her what Charlotte was like.

:23:10. > :23:18.She was very tall, beautiful young woman, creative, artistic. She was

:23:19. > :23:23.perfectly happy at school, and growing up as a teenager, she

:23:24. > :23:30.displayed the normal glitches of teenage life. So how old was she

:23:31. > :23:38.when things started to change? It was around 2000, after my husband

:23:39. > :23:42.died, that things started to change. Initially, Janet and Charlotte helps

:23:43. > :23:49.with the funeral, and the first few months were fine, and then I began

:23:50. > :23:56.to worry that she was out a lot, not really communicating with me very

:23:57. > :24:01.well or with Janet, but it wasn't until 2010 when she was about 25

:24:02. > :24:07.that I realised that there was a bigger problem, and that she might

:24:08. > :24:12.have psychosis, might have a real mental health problem. What were the

:24:13. > :24:23.signs that alerted you? Very strange behaviour. If we were out in

:24:24. > :24:26.Bristol, she would say, let's go into the shops, and then we would go

:24:27. > :24:29.into a shop, and then she would leave the shop and leave me in

:24:30. > :24:35.there, lots of little things that told me things were not right. So

:24:36. > :24:43.how did you end up in a situation where she was getting help? That

:24:44. > :24:48.happened in 2010. She liked music, and she had been to the Sunrise

:24:49. > :24:51.festival, and while she was there something happened, and to this day,

:24:52. > :24:59.we don't know what happened, but she drank something, and she couldn't

:25:00. > :25:07.really remember. She lost a whole week after the Sunrise festival, and

:25:08. > :25:10.a friend of hers rang me to say that Charlotte was with her in Bristol,

:25:11. > :25:15.and could I come and collect her, she wasn't well, she was

:25:16. > :25:23.hallucinating. I went to pick her up, and she was very ill. She was

:25:24. > :25:28.hallucinating, I tried to take a home, we got to the village where I

:25:29. > :25:31.live, it is dark at night with no street lights, and she got very,

:25:32. > :25:41.very frightened, and she completely flipped. So much so that I couldn't

:25:42. > :25:44.cope with the situation, so I dialled 999. She ran away and the

:25:45. > :25:52.police managed to find her about an hour later, and she was admitted to

:25:53. > :25:58.a psychiatric ward in Taunton. And did she start to improve? Not

:25:59. > :26:03.immediately, no. From 2010 to 2012, she was sectioned four times, so

:26:04. > :26:09.that gives you some time of, she wasn't really well. So what was it

:26:10. > :26:15.like when she fell pregnant? How did that affect her? Initially, how it

:26:16. > :26:23.would affect any young mother. She was a bit sick for the first three

:26:24. > :26:30.months, she was quite happy to communicate with me for the first

:26:31. > :26:35.three months, and then... Was she excited about it? Yes, eventually. I

:26:36. > :26:39.think they had a discussion about what they should do, and there was

:26:40. > :26:42.some discussion about whether they should terminate the pregnancy,

:26:43. > :26:49.because of her being on medication, because of her history. I wasn't

:26:50. > :26:58.aware of that discussion at all until after her death.

:26:59. > :27:04.And then one morning, she text me, I had seen her the day before, and she

:27:05. > :27:09.said she didn't want to see me any more. She was about three and a half

:27:10. > :27:15.months pregnant. She had been concerned about the medication

:27:16. > :27:19.through pregnancy. She then stopped taking the medication, didn't she?

:27:20. > :27:24.She did, and nobody really knows when or how, did she just suddenly

:27:25. > :27:29.stop it or did she reduce it gradually, we don't know. Would she

:27:30. > :27:33.have been able to carry on taking it? Were there issues? I don't

:27:34. > :27:40.believe so, that there is very little research, because you can't

:27:41. > :27:47.do research on pregnant mothers, so the pharmacist had told her later on

:27:48. > :27:59.towards the end of her pregnancy that she could carry on taking the

:28:00. > :28:03.Risperidone, but they have to say that there is an element of risk,

:28:04. > :28:06.because there is no research done. It is difficult to know when there

:28:07. > :28:13.is an adult with mental health issues as she had, and she is taking

:28:14. > :28:17.decisions as an adult, but she has issues and people are caring around

:28:18. > :28:25.her. Do you think anyone could or should have stepped in? With

:28:26. > :28:30.hindsight, yes. I think all the professionals would probably say

:28:31. > :28:39.that. But there is a question of deprivation of liberty is. She

:28:40. > :28:43.wasn't ill enough to be sectioned. She was taking these decisions on

:28:44. > :28:52.her own. And don't forget, nobody knew that she had come off her

:28:53. > :28:59.medication. She gave birth to Zaani in December 20 14. What was that

:29:00. > :29:09.like? For her, it was wonder. She had wanted this baby, she knew it

:29:10. > :29:13.was a girl, she had named her, and it she had her baby at Saint

:29:14. > :29:20.Michaels Hospital, and she was very well looked after, her labour went

:29:21. > :29:23.relatively naturally. There were concerns shortly afterwards in terms

:29:24. > :29:31.of her mental health? Psychiatrists spoke to her. What were the

:29:32. > :29:33.concerns? Psychiatrists spoke to her over the weekend, the main concerns

:29:34. > :29:38.were she wasn't looking after herself. She was unkempt, she hadn't

:29:39. > :29:45.had a shower, and she wasn't eating, she wasn't sleeping. That is fairly

:29:46. > :29:52.normal for any young mum for a day or two, maybe, but for Charlotte,

:29:53. > :29:58.these were the warning signs. And just a few days later, you had a

:29:59. > :30:05.call to say she had gone missing. Yes. When I received a phone call at

:30:06. > :30:08.11:30pm on Tuesday, the 2nd of December, I thought, silly girl, she

:30:09. > :30:16.has left the hospital and gone to friends. I thought that until the

:30:17. > :30:21.following day, the Wednesday, when it began to get dark, 24 hours had

:30:22. > :30:33.gone by, and diarrhoea light that something had happened -- 24 hours

:30:34. > :30:36.had gone by, and I realised that something had happened. And it

:30:37. > :30:45.emerged that she had killed herself and Zaani. It was horrific. Janet

:30:46. > :30:48.and I were together at her house. The family years on officers were

:30:49. > :30:56.with us. They had looked after us very well right from the beginning.

:30:57. > :31:01.But it was all, as anyone can imagine, absolutely horrific.

:31:02. > :31:12.Inevitably after that everybody looks back and tries to work out

:31:13. > :31:15.where things might have been done differently, how things might have

:31:16. > :31:22.been different. The coroner said there was a chain of failure is

:31:23. > :31:25.leading up to the deaths. The coroner said her relapse after the

:31:26. > :31:30.birth should have been diagnosed and managed but it was not. How did you

:31:31. > :31:39.feel when you heard that? Very distressed. The inquest was an awful

:31:40. > :31:47.ten days. The coroner made recommendations, three main

:31:48. > :31:51.recommendations. And those recommendations have been

:31:52. > :31:56.recognised, they have been acted upon. Governments have to realise

:31:57. > :32:07.the enormity of mental health problems. But to Charlotte's

:32:08. > :32:11.specific case, it is paramount, it is imperative, that all women with

:32:12. > :32:21.mental health problems have access to a multidisciplinary specialist

:32:22. > :32:31.perinatal. Before, during and after birth. If you have a specialist team

:32:32. > :32:34.around the lady, the woman, then the staff looking after her and dealing

:32:35. > :32:41.with her that have concerns, have somebody senior, have a specialist

:32:42. > :32:47.to go to and to refer to. What would you say to other people who find

:32:48. > :32:53.themselves in that situation? What did you learn about the best way to

:32:54. > :32:59.cope? I think the most important thing that I learned was not to take

:33:00. > :33:09.things personally. And to seek advice for myself, so that I could

:33:10. > :33:18.then best help Charlotte. And how do you remember Charlotte and Zaani

:33:19. > :33:25.now? I think of Charlotte now, we talk about her a lot, Janet and I. I

:33:26. > :33:31.remember her as a little girl, happy little girl messing about in the

:33:32. > :33:38.garden or macro playing with Janice. Zaani, that is difficult. I only

:33:39. > :33:46.knew Zaani for four days and I only saw her twice. I held her both

:33:47. > :33:53.times. I love them both clearly. And I hope, I am sure, that they are

:33:54. > :34:00.both at peace and in a wonderful place. That is how Janet and I

:34:01. > :34:03.remember them both. Rachel Forge and talking to me about

:34:04. > :34:13.her daughter Charlotte and grand daughter Zaani. NCL medic has been

:34:14. > :34:17.in touch to say absolutely heartbreaking, and incredible

:34:18. > :35:00.account. We have had a couple of statements through.

:35:01. > :35:06.Constant bombings, public executions, tv bans,

:35:07. > :35:09.regulations on trouser length - this is what life is like for

:35:10. > :35:11.ordinary people forced to live under the rule of so-called

:35:12. > :35:14.Islamic State in Syria - we'll bring you the latest

:35:15. > :35:23.Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump have pulled further ahead in the race

:35:24. > :35:25.to become the official Democrat and Republican candidates hoping

:35:26. > :35:33.Eleven states voted on what is known as Super Tuesday, though for us

:35:34. > :35:39.in the UK it really should be called Super Wednesday.

:35:40. > :35:41.So what do the frontrunners, Clinton and Trump, stand for,

:35:42. > :35:49.First up, you've got Donald Trump - the reality TV star and businessman

:35:50. > :35:53.- who's been leading the race to become the Republican candidate

:35:54. > :35:58.He's known for speaking his mind and has insulted the other

:35:59. > :36:03.He's taken a particularly strong line on immigration,

:36:04. > :36:08.claiming he wants a "total shutdown" of Muslims entering the US,

:36:09. > :36:14.and wants to build a wall that spans the length of the US-Mexico border.

:36:15. > :36:16.He's not exactly short on confidence either.

:36:17. > :36:20.Trump recently said, "I could shoot people and I wouldn't

:36:21. > :36:28.He currently leads the way in the Republican race,

:36:29. > :36:31.Here's what he had to say last night.

:36:32. > :36:37.We're going to make America great again, folks.

:36:38. > :36:42.And, you know, I watched Hillary's speech, and she is talking about,

:36:43. > :36:44."wages have been poor", and "everything is poor"

:36:45. > :36:47.and everything is doing badly, but we are going to make it.

:36:48. > :36:51.I mean, if she hasn't straightened it out by now,

:36:52. > :36:54.she's not going to straighten it out in the next four years.

:36:55. > :37:02.It is going to become worse and worse. She wants to make America a

:37:03. > :37:04.whole again. Making America great is going to be much better than making

:37:05. > :37:07.America whole again. And the other main Republican Party

:37:08. > :37:09.candidate is Ted Cruz, Cruz has talked a lot about cutting

:37:10. > :37:13.taxes for families and business. He's been strong on immigration too,

:37:14. > :37:16.saying he'd round up and deport No easy task given that there

:37:17. > :37:23.are thought to be around 12 million! Like Trump, he's keen

:37:24. > :37:27.on building a border wall too, but he's got other ideas about who's

:37:28. > :37:31.going to stump up the cash. "We will build a wall that works,

:37:32. > :37:34.and I'll get Donald Trump Cruz has so far won 142 delegates -

:37:35. > :37:54.so trailing in second So long as the field remains

:37:55. > :38:00.divided, Donald Trump's path to the nomination remains more likely. And

:38:01. > :38:11.that would be a disaster for Republicans. For conservatives. And

:38:12. > :38:18.for the nation. And after tonight we have seen that our campaign is the

:38:19. > :38:20.only campaign that has beaten, that can beat and that will beat Donald

:38:21. > :38:22.Trump. a kind of senior MP

:38:23. > :38:31.- in Florida. He's very strongly anti-abortion,

:38:32. > :38:33.even in cases of rape or incest. He's also against stricter gun

:38:34. > :38:36.controls and says he'd repeal any new gun controls Barack Obama

:38:37. > :38:38.is likely to bring in before Rubio's been trying to position

:38:39. > :38:42.himself as the "anti-Trump2 candidate, and has been trading

:38:43. > :38:44.playground insults with him The Florida Senator made light

:38:45. > :38:51.of Trump's apparently short fingers, saying, "You know what they say

:38:52. > :38:54.about men with small hands - Rubio had won 78 delegates,

:38:55. > :38:59.putting him third in This was his take on

:39:00. > :39:17.the results last night. We began to unmask the true nature

:39:18. > :39:22.of the front runner so far in this race. Five days ago, we began to

:39:23. > :39:31.explain to the American people that Donald Trump is a con artist. And in

:39:32. > :39:42.just five days we have seen the impact it is having all across the

:39:43. > :39:45.country. We are seeing in state after state is numbers coming down,

:39:46. > :39:47.our numbers going up. who lost out last time around

:39:48. > :39:53.to Barrack Obama and is the wife She's positioned herself

:39:54. > :40:00.as the moderate candidate in the Democratic election,

:40:01. > :40:03.and has promised stricter gun laws. She wants background checks

:40:04. > :40:05.on people who try to buy guns, and is a strong proponent

:40:06. > :40:07.of women's rights. She's also had a pop at Trump,

:40:08. > :40:10.even though she's not up Her take on his campaign -

:40:11. > :40:15."You can't just say whatever pops into your head if you want

:40:16. > :40:19.to be the President!" She is flying high now having won

:40:20. > :40:21.989 delegates overall. Here she is after her

:40:22. > :40:35.success last night. It is clear tonight that states in

:40:36. > :40:41.this election have never been higher. -- stakes. And the rhetoric

:40:42. > :40:47.we are hearing on the other side have Neser -- has never been lower.

:40:48. > :40:51.Trying to divide America between us and them is wrong. And we are not

:40:52. > :40:55.going to let it work. Last up, Bernie Sanders,

:40:56. > :40:57.the left-wing senator from Vermont. He says he wants big companies

:40:58. > :41:00.to pay loads more in tax, and wants to set up free healthcare

:41:01. > :41:03.and free university education. He's a proponent of much

:41:04. > :41:07.stricter gun laws too. Sanders says he's keen to shake up

:41:08. > :41:10.the political system in America, and has criticised the influence

:41:11. > :41:15.of the super-rich there. He wasn't overly optimistic

:41:16. > :41:18.about his chances though, saying recently: "My God,

:41:19. > :41:21.if you want to run for president, you're going to need

:41:22. > :41:23.a gazillion dollars." Sanders now has won at least

:41:24. > :41:38.349 delegates in total. This campaign is not just about

:41:39. > :41:50.electing the president, it is about transforming America. It is about

:41:51. > :42:02.making our great country the nation that we know it has the potential to

:42:03. > :42:07.be. It is about dealing with some unpleasant truths that exist in

:42:08. > :42:17.America today and having the guts to confront those truths.

:42:18. > :42:23.Laura Bicker is in Washington. How significant are these results? There

:42:24. > :42:31.is still a long way to go. We have around a quarter of the vote in

:42:32. > :42:35.Super Tuesday. But it does give us an indication of where voters are

:42:36. > :42:38.pledging their allegiance. When it comes to the Democrats, I think

:42:39. > :42:44.Hillary Clinton will be feeling very confident. She won seven states,

:42:45. > :42:51.including the key state of Texas, which is full of delegates. She has

:42:52. > :42:55.won Texas and a further six states. And I think, especially when you

:42:56. > :43:00.look at her voting base, she has increased support amongst women. She

:43:01. > :43:04.is also winning amongst black and Hispanic voters and she is sweeping

:43:05. > :43:12.across the South. I think she will feel fairly confident. But she is

:43:13. > :43:17.certainly not pulling any punches. Bernie Sanders has brought new blood

:43:18. > :43:20.into the party. He has energised young voters with this talk of a

:43:21. > :43:25.political revolution. She will want those young voters with her when it

:43:26. > :43:30.comes to the next part of the race. That brings us to the Republicans.

:43:31. > :43:34.Donald Trump, the front runner. Who thought we would be saying that six

:43:35. > :43:40.months ago. A billionaire, a reality TV star leading the Republican race.

:43:41. > :43:44.Many Republicans just simply do not like this. They have tried over the

:43:45. > :43:49.past week to stop this man. There have been TV adverts running, really

:43:50. > :43:55.saying his business reputation is not all it is cracked up to be. They

:43:56. > :44:00.have also tried to get behind Florida senator -- Florida Senator

:44:01. > :44:06.Marco Rubio. He has only won one state this evening. They are not

:44:07. > :44:11.pleased with Ted Cruz either. He is a radical in Washington. He is seen

:44:12. > :44:14.as an outsider. He is seen as the man who shot down the government.

:44:15. > :44:19.Certainly they are not that pleased with him. They are stepping back and

:44:20. > :44:22.really they look very divided. It will be very interesting to see what

:44:23. > :44:28.they do next. If well. Laura, thank you. After ten

:44:29. > :44:32.o'clock we will be getting reaction from some Americans living in the

:44:33. > :44:35.UK. Stay with us for that and let us know what you think about what is

:44:36. > :44:36.going on with the American votes right now.

:44:37. > :44:46.Now let's catch up with the weather. Yesterday we were talking about

:44:47. > :44:54.Weather Watch pictures being sent in. -- Weather Watchers pictures.

:44:55. > :45:01.You tried to send one? I did. I was in the rain and I took a picture.

:45:02. > :45:07.We have had a variety of weather this morning. Some of us have had

:45:08. > :45:11.some snow. This was sent in area. Quite a bit of snow first thing in

:45:12. > :45:16.Northern Ireland. It was not just in Northern Ireland. This is a recent

:45:17. > :45:22.picture that one of the Weather Watchers has sent in from Harrogate.

:45:23. > :45:28.A little bit of snow. A very similar story in Accrington in Lancashire.

:45:29. > :45:34.It was not the whole story. Not all of us did see snow. In Kent it was a

:45:35. > :45:41.beautiful start to the day. There are some showers now. A country of

:45:42. > :45:43.many bits today. There is some snow in that forecast

:45:44. > :45:52.for the rest of the day. You can see where the snow has been

:45:53. > :45:59.falling, adding to the totals already across Scotland for the as

:46:00. > :46:03.we go through the rest of the morning and temperatures rise, what

:46:04. > :46:07.you will find is the snow level will also rise, so it will tend to be

:46:08. > :46:11.more in the hills. Then we run into the next weather feature, gusty

:46:12. > :46:19.winds, already happening across parts of the South West and

:46:20. > :46:28.south-west Wales. It is sweeping through the English channel as well

:46:29. > :46:31.towards the Channel Islands. And the showers will be interspersed with

:46:32. > :46:40.some sunshine, but it will feel cold where ever you are, temperatures

:46:41. > :46:43.tempered by the wind. Through the evening and overnight, once again we

:46:44. > :46:51.have showers pushing from the west towards the east, still a wintry

:46:52. > :46:56.flavour. And with low temperatures, there is still a widespread frost,

:46:57. > :47:03.and we are looking at ice tomorrow morning, something to be aware of.

:47:04. > :47:07.This is the picture tomorrow morning, a little sleet as well as

:47:08. > :47:12.rain at lower levels. A lot of them will tend to fade, and most of us

:47:13. > :47:15.will have a dry day. You can see we have this line of rain coming in

:47:16. > :47:20.across south-west England, south-west Wales and also Northern

:47:21. > :47:26.Ireland. This is actually a weather front coming in from the west, and

:47:27. > :47:34.it will drift eastwards. Once again we will see some snow falling out of

:47:35. > :47:37.the sky along with sleet and rain. Picking up the story for Thursday

:47:38. > :47:41.evening, we have this rain coming in with sleet and snow mixed in, and

:47:42. > :47:45.that will continue into Friday, the front crossing into the near

:47:46. > :47:51.continent, which you can see this curl coming back, and it is a

:47:52. > :47:54.mixture of rain, sleet and snow, and it does mean that something we are

:47:55. > :47:57.keeping a close eye on, it could change, it could move a little

:47:58. > :48:01.further south or indeed a little further north. But it is going to be

:48:02. > :48:09.a cold day whichever way you look at it. And that in itself will lead to

:48:10. > :48:11.a cold weekend, and you will need to get your woolly jumpers out again

:48:12. > :48:22.for the weekend. More later on. Hello it's ten o'clock,

:48:23. > :48:27.it's Joanna Gosling, just joined us...coming

:48:28. > :48:34.up before 11. A group of 70 doctors,

:48:35. > :48:37.academics and public health experts are calling for a ban on tackling

:48:38. > :48:39.rugby games in schools because of the risk

:48:40. > :48:48.of serious injury. Some children want to play contact

:48:49. > :48:51.rugby, and there is a place for that, but children are often

:48:52. > :48:55.compelled to play at as part of the national curriculum, and the RFU

:48:56. > :48:59.desires to expand this play. What we are arguing is that the game is a

:49:00. > :49:04.great game, but it should be a game of touch in school systems. We will

:49:05. > :49:15.get reactions from mums and young rugby players.

:49:16. > :49:19.# Work, work, work if you are in your 20s, you face plenty more work,

:49:20. > :49:24.work, work, get to retire till you're in your

:49:25. > :49:33.mid 70s or possibly even later. In America it was a good night

:49:34. > :49:41.for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton on the biggest

:49:42. > :49:44.day in the race for the US Each secured seven out of eleven

:49:45. > :49:50.states on "Super Tuesday" although there were important wins

:49:51. > :49:52.for their rivals who vowed As we've been hearing on this

:49:53. > :49:57.programme, there's been a call to ban tackling on the school rugby

:49:58. > :50:00.pitch due to risk of serious More than 70 doctors and specialists

:50:01. > :50:08.have written to the government warning of lifelong

:50:09. > :50:10.consequences from injuries from the high-impact

:50:11. > :50:23.collision sport. Matt Perry told us his views. I have

:50:24. > :50:25.had a number of injuries myself, and I think I would be in a better place

:50:26. > :50:33.now from these protocols. There's been a warning that that

:50:34. > :50:36.22-year-olds now may have to work well into their 80s -

:50:37. > :50:38.unless they start saving Lib Dem MP Steve Webb,

:50:39. > :50:41.formerly the pensions minister, says that even if they do

:50:42. > :50:44.save at the minimum level, they may not be able to retire

:50:45. > :50:50.until they're 77 years old. The estimates we have made, if

:50:51. > :50:54.people aged 22 now, if they only say that the minimum level, this 8% of

:50:55. > :50:58.salary, they could be working to something like 77 if they want the

:50:59. > :51:04.kind of pension and their parents had. A trickle of migrants is being

:51:05. > :51:08.allowed into Macedonia from Greece is around 10,000 remain camped at

:51:09. > :51:12.the crossing. 200 people from Syria and Iraq were let in overnight. The

:51:13. > :51:22.bottleneck is caused by more and more EU nations further north in

:51:23. > :51:31.posing tougher border controls. Let's go to the Supreme Court right

:51:32. > :51:34.now. Judges have made big judgments on whether employers are responsible

:51:35. > :51:37.for the actions of their employees. And responsible for criminal

:51:38. > :51:42.actions. This is a desperately sad case. In 2008, at Morrison's petrol

:51:43. > :51:48.station in Birmingham, a man called Ahmed Mohammed went to the petrol

:51:49. > :51:52.station, Didier pressure on his tyres and then went into the kiosk

:51:53. > :51:58.and asked the staff to help him print often documents from a USB

:51:59. > :52:01.stick that he had. He got an extremely rude response to that.

:52:02. > :52:09.That Ben was followed up by some racist abuse. He was followed out

:52:10. > :52:14.onto the forecourt by a Morrison's employee, a man called Angie Ucan,

:52:15. > :52:24.who proceeded to punch him in the head. -- Tabac three.

:52:25. > :52:36.Anjid Khan. This case was brought by Mr Mohammed's family, he died of an

:52:37. > :52:40.unrelated illness. This case was brought by his family who were

:52:41. > :52:46.seeking to hold Morrison's vicariously liable for those

:52:47. > :52:50.criminal acts by Mr Khan, so at the heart of this case was the test as

:52:51. > :52:56.to when an employer is liable for the criminal conduct of an employee.

:52:57. > :53:01.Today, the Supreme Court has unanimously ruled in favour of Mr

:53:02. > :53:06.Mohammed's family, and against Morrison's, and it has found that

:53:07. > :53:11.Morrison's were vicariously liable for those criminal acts of their own

:53:12. > :53:21.employee, and as you say, it is a ruling which roared and the law. --

:53:22. > :53:29.broadens the law. Previously it was only when the employment involved an

:53:30. > :53:37.element of risk, such as a nightclub bouncer or a carer in a care home.

:53:38. > :53:42.This broadens that out. Use Boca but half of the bar pro bono. Give me

:53:43. > :53:59.your take on how significant this is false. We are delighted with this,

:54:00. > :54:02.because Mr Mohammed had lost in the Court of Appeal, and this ruling

:54:03. > :54:06.says that the law must be applied flexibly to ensure that justice is

:54:07. > :54:11.done in the case. In doing so, they have ruled in his favour, and made

:54:12. > :54:18.it easier for victims of violence to bring claims against businesses

:54:19. > :54:29.where violence has occurred in their interaction with that business. And

:54:30. > :54:37.it may also have indications on cases when open please might be

:54:38. > :54:42.exposed to violence or assault in the workplace. Yes, in the past it

:54:43. > :54:47.has been very difficult to pin liability on the employer and claims

:54:48. > :54:50.Epingle to get individual, but this means it will be easier in the

:54:51. > :54:54.future to argue that the employer is liable for what the ploy has done in

:54:55. > :54:59.the course of his duties. And a statement, Morrison's have sent that

:55:00. > :55:05.this is a highly regrettable and appalling incident. They have said

:55:06. > :55:09.that although the law has not been changed, they acknowledge their

:55:10. > :55:13.liability in this case, so as I say, this is a ruling which employers up

:55:14. > :55:18.and down the land will be looking at with great care, because it does now

:55:19. > :55:23.make it rather easier for anyone who is affected by violence on behalf of

:55:24. > :55:30.an employee to bring a claim against their employer. Joanna, back to you.

:55:31. > :55:33.Thank you very much, Clive. The Government says Britain will be

:55:34. > :55:45.weaker, less safe and worse off if it leaves the use. -- the EU.

:55:46. > :55:47.It's published a document setting out the claims.

:55:48. > :55:50.Those wanting the UK to leave the European Union have dismissed

:55:51. > :55:53.the report as a "dodgy dossier" that ignores the risks of staying in.

:55:54. > :55:56.There were 23 near misses of drones and planes around airports

:55:57. > :56:00.That's led pilots to call for research into what would happen

:56:01. > :56:04.In one incident a drone passed within 25 metres of a Boeing

:56:05. > :56:07.After nearly a year aboard the International Space Station

:56:08. > :56:09.a Nasa astronaut and a Russian cosmonaut have returned

:56:10. > :56:12.Their 340-day mission aboard the International Space Station

:56:13. > :56:15.was twice the length of a normal stay, which is will form part

:56:16. > :56:18.of a study looking at the effects of what long-duration spaceflight

:56:19. > :56:24.Let's catch up with all the sport now and join Chris Mitchell.

:56:25. > :56:27.Leicester have captured the hearts of the neutrals in the title race -

:56:28. > :56:29.but last night's result leaves the door wide open

:56:30. > :56:51.It does! Leicester draw shocker is the top story.

:56:52. > :56:57.You are right, Tottenham could go top tonight if they beat West Ham.

:56:58. > :57:04.Claudio Ranieri says his side played well but couldn't catch a break.

:57:05. > :57:12.Tonight we weren't so lucky. We played much better than Norwich, and

:57:13. > :57:16.there we won, and today we drew, so I am not happy, but I am satisfied

:57:17. > :57:32.for the performance. Sometimes you can play well and the

:57:33. > :57:38.ball doesn't go in. Sir Bradley Wiggins and Laura Trott Haruna

:57:39. > :57:45.strong British team starting at the velodrome today. Wiggins, who won

:57:46. > :57:50.the time trial in 2012, is hoping to grab a spot in the format pursuit

:57:51. > :57:53.team. There are so many guys that can do your job, so you are always

:57:54. > :57:58.looking over your shoulder and trying to produce each session, and

:57:59. > :58:02.it is quite cut-throat. If you are not up to it, someone else's, and it

:58:03. > :58:07.is nice having numbers, because it keeps you training every day, keeps

:58:08. > :58:11.you doing the right things, and no one takes for granted that their

:58:12. > :58:16.spot is booked. The England centre Manu Tuilagi says he will be

:58:17. > :58:24.honoured to play a trick and again after being re-called to the England

:58:25. > :58:30.Six Nations squad. He is in line for a return for the match day squad a

:58:31. > :58:33.week on Saturday against Wales. And when you watch boxing at the

:58:34. > :58:39.Olympics later this year, you might notice something a little different.

:58:40. > :58:41.Gone are those head guards, mailboxes will not be wearing those

:58:42. > :58:47.protective head guards. The women still will be, the boxing

:58:48. > :58:50.authorities say the move will lead to fewer concussions. Boxers have

:58:51. > :58:56.worn headgear at every Olympics since 1984, but research shows that

:58:57. > :58:59.moving them could actually lead to less serious injuries. The theory is

:59:00. > :59:04.that opponents don't apply so much force, don't hit so hard, if the

:59:05. > :59:08.head is unprotected. The change has already been made in amateur boxing,

:59:09. > :59:17.but it has now been ratified by the International Olympic Committee.

:59:18. > :59:19.That's all sports are now, Joanna. Thank you, Chris. Thank you for

:59:20. > :59:24.joining us this morning if you have just joined us, we are BBC Two on

:59:25. > :59:28.the BBC News channel for the next hour. Throughout the programme we

:59:29. > :59:31.will bring you a latest breaking news and developing stories, and

:59:32. > :59:34.we're keen to hear from you on all the stories we're talking about. You

:59:35. > :59:43.can get in touch and all the usual ways, and don't forget. Loads of you

:59:44. > :59:47.have been getting in touch today on the subject of rugby in schools and

:59:48. > :59:52.whether rugby tackles should be banned in schools. Josh says, I'm

:59:53. > :59:57.21, when I was in school we used to play rugby, at a younger age we

:59:58. > :00:01.played that run. As an older age we played contact rugby, but we knew

:00:02. > :00:04.the dangers involved. Our PE teacher was always on hand to control the

:00:05. > :00:09.tackles and help us tackle properly without danger. James Azema to say I

:00:10. > :00:12.have played rugby since the age of five, and I have gained friendships

:00:13. > :00:17.that will last a lifetime and developed a range of skills. I have

:00:18. > :00:20.suffered concussion once over this period, so if you're going to ban

:00:21. > :00:25.tackling, what about other contact sports? Rugby is a well looked after

:00:26. > :00:29.sport and it makes you grow up. And Michael has e-mailed to say you

:00:30. > :00:32.cannot take tackling out of rugby, do that and it is no longer rugby.

:00:33. > :00:37.Kids can't be wrapped in cotton wool. Rugby build a spirited

:00:38. > :00:43.competition, take tackling out of grassroots run the and you destroy

:00:44. > :00:47.the game at all levels. So many of you getting in touch on this one, so

:00:48. > :00:53.do keep your thoughts coming in. It all comes because of the fact that

:00:54. > :00:57.more than 70 doctors and health experts have written to the

:00:58. > :01:04.Government to call for a ban on tackling in schools. Let's talk to a

:01:05. > :01:07.couple of young rugby players, Angus Swanson who is 20, he had a brain

:01:08. > :01:12.haemorrhage at the age of 18 but still plays and coaches and under 14

:01:13. > :01:13.team, and Hayley Everett who is 18 and plays rugby at university. Thank

:01:14. > :01:24.you both rain much for coming in. The what do you think of this?

:01:25. > :01:30.Banning contact in schools will impede the game. If children are not

:01:31. > :01:35.taught to tackle properly with the correct technique at a younger age,

:01:36. > :01:43.how are expected to do it when they play adult rugby? S me and Hayley

:01:44. > :01:47.were discussing this beforehand. If children are not taught proper

:01:48. > :01:53.tackle discipline, when they do get to a level... If we banned contact

:01:54. > :01:57.in rugby and they are not taught proper tackling when they are young

:01:58. > :02:00.and impressionable, by the time they get to an age where they are

:02:01. > :02:04.involved in proper tackling, they're going to be dumping on their heads.

:02:05. > :02:15.You did suffer an injury. What happened? I took the ball into

:02:16. > :02:23.contact badly. I had the ball high. You are supposed to carry it about

:02:24. > :02:30.here. I had my chin, my head popped back. I woke up a month later. Those

:02:31. > :02:35.who want to see contact rugby band say that not all kids will go on to

:02:36. > :02:40.play it later. If they are being forced to do something that could

:02:41. > :02:43.cause them injuries, life-threatening injuries, life

:02:44. > :02:50.changing injuries, it is not a risk worth taking. What would you say to

:02:51. > :02:54.that? At the end of the day although it is something taught in schools as

:02:55. > :02:58.part of the curriculum, the onus is on the PE teachers around them to

:02:59. > :03:05.make sure that the tackling is saved, the correct technique is

:03:06. > :03:09.being taught. But old so, parents know what their children are going

:03:10. > :03:14.to be entering into and the players themselves should be aware of the

:03:15. > :03:18.risks. I have been playing rugby for eight years. I have always known

:03:19. > :03:24.there are risks. Everybody has accidents and injuries. But at the

:03:25. > :03:29.end of the day it is part of the game, that is why we play rugby.

:03:30. > :03:34.Have you played contact rugby and rugby without tackling? I have

:03:35. > :03:43.played touch rugby as well, which is fun. But for me rugby is a contact

:03:44. > :03:50.sport. That is why people play it. There is so much you can gain from

:03:51. > :03:56.rugby. Team spirit, camaraderie. Can she get that without the tackling?

:03:57. > :04:04.Some people would argue that you could. -- can you get that. What

:04:05. > :04:10.about the element of compelling children to play when sometimes some

:04:11. > :04:16.of them might not want to and it can have dangerous for them? I do not

:04:17. > :04:22.think they should be forced to play. We were never forced to play rugby.

:04:23. > :04:30.We had the option. In the winter we would play hockey rugby and

:04:31. > :04:34.football. You had the option. If you did not feel like playing rugby, you

:04:35. > :04:41.had the option of two less physical sports. Children should be given

:04:42. > :04:48.that option rather than neutering the game by taking the tackling

:04:49. > :04:55.aspect out of it. Some people have been getting in touch. They can join

:04:56. > :04:59.us now as part of our conversation. Madeleine is in Walsall. Her son was

:05:00. > :05:05.badly injured at school playing rugby when he was 14. And Sam is in

:05:06. > :05:09.the Scottish Borders. He played rugby at school. Pat is in Bristol.

:05:10. > :05:14.Her grandchildren play rugby at school. Thank you for joining us.

:05:15. > :05:21.What happened to your boy, Madeleine? The teacher was not

:05:22. > :05:24.paying attention at the time and my son experienced a bad tackle from

:05:25. > :05:29.one of the children. He fell onto his face into the hard ground, which

:05:30. > :05:37.caused one of his teeth to go through his bottom lip and out of

:05:38. > :05:41.his chin. He lost two thirds of the other two. He had to have stitches

:05:42. > :05:48.in his chin as well as having to have the tooth capped. He has since

:05:49. > :05:52.gone on to a root canal treatment. He has had infections. They had to

:05:53. > :05:57.drill into his gums to release pressure. It is an ongoing battle.

:05:58. > :06:03.He will lose what remains of the tooth soon. It really knocked his

:06:04. > :06:08.confidence. I had to go and collect him. He was crying, he was sure

:06:09. > :06:14.Corp. We had to go to A He did not actually like rugby. He

:06:15. > :06:19.mentioned a couple of weeks before that how he did not like it. But

:06:20. > :06:23.suddenly at his school it was scheduled to happen and they could

:06:24. > :06:31.not say no. It was something they had to take part in. Also, I just

:06:32. > :06:36.want to point out that mouth guards were not recommended by the school.

:06:37. > :06:41.After my son had his accident and lost his tooth, they actually sent a

:06:42. > :06:46.letter out to advise all pupils play rugby with mouth guards. What do you

:06:47. > :06:50.think about those elements being discussed today, for their kids

:06:51. > :06:55.should be forced to play rugby in schools and whether it should be

:06:56. > :06:59.touch rugby or contact rugby? I think touch rugby is a very good

:07:00. > :07:07.idea. From my own experience and my son's experience. It does still

:07:08. > :07:11.bother him now. It is a personal choice. My son did not like rugby

:07:12. > :07:15.from the start. Sadly he ended up being one of the injured pupils. He

:07:16. > :07:18.did not want to take part and I do not think our children should be

:07:19. > :07:30.forced to do anything they do not want to do. Sam, what is your view?

:07:31. > :07:38.Sorry, Pat joining us from the Scottish Borders. It is Sam. Maybe

:07:39. > :07:44.we have lost some. Pat, your grandchildren play. What do you

:07:45. > :07:51.think? It should be personal choice. I do not think it is fair making

:07:52. > :07:55.children that are a bit intimidated play football. I have got two grand

:07:56. > :08:00.sons playing rugby in senior school and they love it. They are very

:08:01. > :08:12.sporty. But as grandparents we always worry. I just feel it is not

:08:13. > :08:20.worth the risk. I do not think it should be the government who... I do

:08:21. > :08:24.not see why children should be forced to play something they are

:08:25. > :08:31.not happy about. What about people saying it is nanny State? I do not

:08:32. > :08:35.think it is. I think it comes to personal choice. We are all

:08:36. > :08:40.individuals. If you are not enjoying it you should not be forced to do

:08:41. > :08:48.it. What do you think when you hear that? I agree in the fact that no

:08:49. > :08:52.child should be forced to do something they do not wish to do.

:08:53. > :08:58.There are sports I did in secondary school that I wish I did not have to

:08:59. > :09:05.do. For various reasons. What they sports that could have resulted in

:09:06. > :09:13.injury? There is always a concern of injury and rugby. As Pat said about

:09:14. > :09:18.children being quite small, everybody grows at different rates.

:09:19. > :09:26.Some are larger than others and more suited to the game. We have got some

:09:27. > :09:34.back. What is your perspective? I was about 14 years old 20 years ago.

:09:35. > :09:38.I was a much bigger child, much stronger than other children and I

:09:39. > :09:43.was not into rugby. I was into athletics and football. That is

:09:44. > :09:48.where my heart lay. But the teacher was insistent. He threw a son to be

:09:49. > :09:54.rugby pitch and got us going. It was pretty much the first time I held a

:09:55. > :10:02.rugby ball. I was tripped up, hit the floor and cracked my shoulder

:10:03. > :10:05.blade here. It made a hairline fracture. My throwing arm was never

:10:06. > :10:10.right after that. I think if we had been taught how to tackle properly

:10:11. > :10:16.rather than just being chucked in the deep end and told to get with

:10:17. > :10:21.it, then things would be better. After I had healed, although it

:10:22. > :10:25.never fully healed, they took me, because I was still one of the

:10:26. > :10:33.biggest in my class, and rugby matches. And I took that one of the

:10:34. > :10:38.opponents and I broke someone's leg. I did not know what I was doing. I

:10:39. > :10:43.was just told to take the ball come run to the other end of the pitch. I

:10:44. > :10:47.still do not completely understand rugby. It could have been taught

:10:48. > :10:51.better. What do you think about whether kids should be forced to

:10:52. > :10:57.play and should be playing contact or touch? I have a couple of

:10:58. > :11:03.children. They are both maniacs, they are very physical. They need to

:11:04. > :11:06.let out there, I am not sure if it is aggression or energy, in some

:11:07. > :11:12.particular way, but it could be done in a more controlled manner rather

:11:13. > :11:17.than, just get on with this, in what can be a dangerous sport. I think it

:11:18. > :11:22.affected me in the future after that. I do not want my

:11:23. > :11:29.three-year-old, who may start playing rugby in the next year two,

:11:30. > :11:33.to not taught that. I think things might have changed since the 1990s.

:11:34. > :11:40.I hope so. Thank you very much some. And thank

:11:41. > :11:48.you to the rest of you. Thank you for all your comments.

:11:49. > :11:50.No one is really sure what daily brutalities so-called Islamic State

:11:51. > :11:52.carries out in the areas it controls.

:11:53. > :11:54.Reporting from Syria is so dangerous now,

:11:55. > :11:57.from any news organisation go anywhere near IS controlled areas.

:11:58. > :12:00.But there are a number of activist groups which manage to smuggle

:12:01. > :12:03.information to the outside world at huge risk to their own lives.

:12:04. > :12:06.One activist based in Raqqa - the capital of the so-called

:12:07. > :12:09.Islamic State controlled territory - has been keeping a series of diaries

:12:10. > :12:12.for the Today programme on Radio 4 which we've been

:12:13. > :12:16.We've changed names and some details and had his words are spoken for him

:12:17. > :12:37.The days seem all the same now. The revolution sparked my hopes and

:12:38. > :12:42.dreams. I dreamt of leaving my country and building a better life

:12:43. > :12:46.elsewhere. But that is no longer possible. My country needs me. I

:12:47. > :12:53.hear her calling like a mother to her son. It is early morning. I have

:12:54. > :12:59.been woken. I can hear the sounds of explosions and children crying. It

:13:00. > :13:05.is a bitter reminder of reality and the need to focus on staying alive.

:13:06. > :13:09.The explosions are getting closer. My brother and I go outside to see

:13:10. > :13:12.what is happening. One of our neighbours is running around

:13:13. > :13:18.hysterically. He is asking if anybody has seen his son. He went to

:13:19. > :13:26.Brighton bread. -- to buy some bread. We run to Mohammed's house as

:13:27. > :13:30.fast as we can, to find scattered bodies. One of them belongs to a

:13:31. > :13:36.pregnant woman. She was due to give birth in a few days. Then the noise

:13:37. > :13:40.of warplanes grows louder. One is overhead. We all scatter. It is

:13:41. > :13:46.quite like the ones that hit was a few days ago, a Russian plane. After

:13:47. > :13:51.the planes had gone, I got up and walked to the shop I work in. My

:13:52. > :13:56.boss, who was quietly slipping -- sipping tea, give me a smile. I

:13:57. > :14:04.noticed he was not smoking. That was unusual. He usually had a cigarette.

:14:05. > :14:08.But Daesh have banned smoking. After smelling his cigarette they had

:14:09. > :14:13.humiliated him, then they beat him up as if he was a criminal. While we

:14:14. > :14:17.were talking, two men carrying some papers went into the shop next door.

:14:18. > :14:23.Seconds later, they walked into ours. They handed us both pieces of

:14:24. > :14:28.paper before leaving without a word. These were an order from Daesh,

:14:29. > :14:33.banning all televisions in shops. We had a week to remove ours. It seemed

:14:34. > :14:38.it was not enough to stop is talking to the outside world, now we cannot

:14:39. > :14:41.even look at it. A little later a friend Kim in the shop. We had not

:14:42. > :14:49.seen him since he was arrested by Daesh. You are alive, I shouted! We

:14:50. > :14:53.thought you were dead. He laughed with a weird smile on his face. He

:14:54. > :14:58.said the last time he was arrested it was because his trousers were too

:14:59. > :15:02.long. Daesh insist they should be above ankle length. Anybody found

:15:03. > :15:09.breaking this rule is to undergo a course. Then my mobile rang. It was

:15:10. > :15:14.my mother. She asked me to buy some groceries for the family. But I

:15:15. > :15:18.cannot afford much these days. Tomatoes now cost more than 400

:15:19. > :15:27.Syrian pounds and rice is about 400. It is terrible. On the way back I

:15:28. > :15:33.thought of plot of excuses. But I didn't need to. Like most parents

:15:34. > :15:34.here, my mother was just delighted I had not been arrested or killed and

:15:35. > :15:35.was safely home again. That film was produced by the artist

:15:36. > :15:38.and animator Scott Coello for Radio 4's Today programme -

:15:39. > :15:41.you can watch it back on their programme page and tomorrow

:15:42. > :15:43.we will have the next Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

:15:44. > :15:52.surge ahead on Super Tuesday. We'll get reaction from

:15:53. > :15:56.Americans in the UK. And returning to Earth

:15:57. > :15:59.after a year in space - we'll be speaking to two space

:16:00. > :16:03.experts about the two astronauts readjusting to life back home

:16:04. > :16:05.after landing safely just Donald Trump says he wants to unify

:16:06. > :16:21.America, and Hillary Clinton says the world needs more love,

:16:22. > :16:24.after last night's US presidential primaries saw each stretch

:16:25. > :16:26.out their lead for the nominations. Republican Trump and Democrat

:16:27. > :16:29.Clinton each secured seven out As we've been reporting,

:16:30. > :16:41.doctors and specialists are warning that school rugby

:16:42. > :16:42.tackling is so dangerous About 70 experts have written

:16:43. > :16:50.to the Government saying high impact collisions can have

:16:51. > :16:52.lifelong consequences. Former England international

:16:53. > :17:05.Matt Perry told us about his I had a number of injuries myself,

:17:06. > :17:08.Concussion being one, and if I was around now with the protocols, I

:17:09. > :17:11.would be in a better place. And this programme's been told

:17:12. > :17:16.that 22-year-olds may have to work

:17:17. > :17:18.well into their 80s - unless they start saving

:17:19. > :17:20.for a pension straight away. MP Steve Webb - formerly

:17:21. > :17:22.the pensions minister - says even if they do -

:17:23. > :17:30.they could be waiting till the age The estimates we have made, able age

:17:31. > :17:34.22 now, if they only say that the minimum level required, eight ascent

:17:35. > :17:40.of salary, them and their employers together, they could be working to

:17:41. > :17:47.77 if they want the pensioner parents had. We will hear the full

:17:48. > :17:51.interview soon, and we will be talking to people affected by it,

:17:52. > :17:52.and if you are thinking about having to work into your 80s, what do you

:17:53. > :17:56.think? A trickle of migrants has been

:17:57. > :18:00.allowed into Macedonia from Greece as around 10,000 remain

:18:01. > :18:02.camped at the crossing. About 200 people from Syria and Iraq

:18:03. > :18:06.were let in overnight. The bottleneck is caused by more

:18:07. > :18:09.and more EU nations further north There is more claim and counterclaim

:18:10. > :18:22.today in the EE referendum debate. The Government says Britain will be

:18:23. > :18:25.weaker, less safe and worse off Its published a document

:18:26. > :18:28.setting out the claims. Those wanting the UK to leave

:18:29. > :18:31.the European Union have dismissed the report as a "dodgy dossier" that

:18:32. > :18:36.ignores the risks of staying in. We will hear from the Foreign

:18:37. > :18:41.Secretary Philip Hammond shortly. Chris Mitchell has the sport. Lester

:18:42. > :18:45.shocker, the drew, but it has got very exciting in the Premier League.

:18:46. > :18:49.They missed a chance to go five points clear at the top because of

:18:50. > :18:55.that free kick from West Brom's Gardner. It means Tottenham could

:18:56. > :19:01.replace Leicester at the top tonight if they beat West Ham, but that will

:19:02. > :19:05.be tough. The Olympic and world champion Sir Bradley Wiggins and

:19:06. > :19:13.Laura Trott both in action, and a strong British team they start at

:19:14. > :19:20.the London Olympic velodrome today, one o'clock the team pursuit starts.

:19:21. > :19:27.Places for this man, so -- Sir Bradley are up for the limits in

:19:28. > :19:34.Rio. Manu Tuilagi hasn't played for England since 2014 but has been

:19:35. > :19:38.re-called to the England squad. He should return to the match day squad

:19:39. > :19:42.against Wales a week on Saturday. You have been talking about no

:19:43. > :19:46.tackling in run it, ridiculous, many people are saying, but how about no

:19:47. > :19:50.predictive head guards the boxes at the Olympics? You are used to seeing

:19:51. > :19:52.these, and the women will still have them in Rio, but the boxing

:19:53. > :19:59.authorities say statistics show the move to remove them will actually

:20:00. > :20:04.lead to fewer concussions. So, for the men in Rio, the blue one and the

:20:05. > :20:13.red one, the headgear, it is gone. Interesting. Thank you, Chris. Loads

:20:14. > :20:18.of you getting in touch on the rugby still. More on that a little later.

:20:19. > :20:22.But now let's talk about US politics. Donald Trump and Hillary

:20:23. > :20:26.Clinton have extended their lead is in the race to become the candidates

:20:27. > :20:30.for the Republicans and Democrats. They are an course to win seven

:20:31. > :20:43.states each on Super Tuesday. Super Tuesday is when the campaign

:20:44. > :20:45.for the American presidency Voters in 11 states get their pick

:20:46. > :20:49.that day, and more delegates are in play than at any

:20:50. > :20:52.other time in the race. If they don't win delegates,

:20:53. > :20:54.a candidate might as well pack their bags and,

:20:55. > :20:57.if history is any indication, With simultaneous voting

:20:58. > :20:59.across several states, we will get a more immediate sense

:21:00. > :21:02.of the direction of this campaign. A test run, if you will,

:21:03. > :21:04.for the real thing. But it's tricky for

:21:05. > :21:07.the candidates, and here's why. It stretches them thin in the two

:21:08. > :21:10.ways that matter most - A would-be nominee can't

:21:11. > :21:12.be everywhere at once, so how they spend

:21:13. > :21:16.their time is vital. When a candidate can't be

:21:17. > :21:22.there in person, he or she needs a good campaign operation,

:21:23. > :21:25.and TV ads, lots of TV ads. I'm Donald Trump, and I

:21:26. > :21:31.approve this message. So, if nothing else,

:21:32. > :21:36.Super Tuesday can be thought of as a series of final exams

:21:37. > :21:41.all held on the same day. The candidate has to perform well

:21:42. > :21:43.across enough of them to graduate to the next phase of the campaign,

:21:44. > :21:46.and if they don't, it's "Thanks for trying -

:21:47. > :22:11.better luck next time." Let's speak to four Americans living

:22:12. > :22:20.in the UK, two Republicans and two Democrats. What you think?

:22:21. > :22:25.Statistically and historically, it looks like it will be Donald Trump

:22:26. > :22:30.and Hillary Clinton. I would personally not like either of them.

:22:31. > :22:39.Who is your preferred candidate? At the moment, Ted Cruz. I don't vote

:22:40. > :22:42.until May for Oregon, so I have been more focusing on who I don't think

:22:43. > :22:49.would make a good president before choosing somebody that I will be

:22:50. > :22:55.voting for, so right now, I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with Ted

:22:56. > :23:04.Cruz. Why is that? I am looking for people that I don't support. Drew,

:23:05. > :23:07.you are a Democrat. Undecided? I am still on the fence between Bernie

:23:08. > :23:14.Sanders and Clinton. I like the ideology of Sanders. I like the goal

:23:15. > :23:21.of reducing the wealth gap in the United States. My concern being a

:23:22. > :23:26.bit of a realist as well is that I don't know if those policies

:23:27. > :23:30.necessarily economically make sense, so while he can promise these

:23:31. > :23:36.things, I don't know if it is something that can actually happen.

:23:37. > :23:41.So if I was pushed to it, I would probably vote for Clinton, but not,

:23:42. > :23:49.she wouldn't be my first choice. And what would you think of a

:23:50. > :23:56.Clinton-Trump showdown? I would have no choice than to vote Clinton. I

:23:57. > :24:04.still think Clinton would win, I think it would make for a very

:24:05. > :24:09.interesting election campaign. I think, Donald Trump has been such a

:24:10. > :24:14.wild card, and no one thinks he will be able to win the primary, people

:24:15. > :24:19.just were ignoring him, and he has got all the way to this point, so

:24:20. > :24:26.you can't necessarily count him out, which is, as an American, slightly

:24:27. > :24:30.terrifying, but I think Clinton would still win. Alicia, you are

:24:31. > :24:38.Republican, but not for Trump, either? I am a Marco Rubio

:24:39. > :24:44.supporter, and he probably fared the worst, coming out with only one

:24:45. > :24:49.state, and Trump did very well, as expected, and inevitably will become

:24:50. > :24:56.the nominee, I think. But the Washington elite don't want him?

:24:57. > :25:01.Yes, it will be interesting to see what they do, because they work

:25:02. > :25:09.Lessing around Marco Rubio. -- they were coalescing around Marco Rubio.

:25:10. > :25:13.Is having such a wide field doing them any favours? Is it time to

:25:14. > :25:18.Rubio to go even though he was their preferred candidate? Yes, there have

:25:19. > :25:21.been a number of calls for Republicans to consolidate, and that

:25:22. > :25:26.would increase their share of the vote and possibly put up a fight

:25:27. > :25:31.against Trump. The Republican establishment has been trying to

:25:32. > :25:36.persuade people like Ben Carson to drop out. The problem is that not

:25:37. > :25:39.all of those votes were necessarily go to Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio,

:25:40. > :25:45.depending on which one is dating, there is still a percentage that I

:25:46. > :25:53.think would go to Trump that leave Carson or Ted Cruz. And as we saw

:25:54. > :25:57.last night, some of these states, he is up 40%, so he doesn't need that

:25:58. > :26:03.many more votes, and I fear that even with a consolidated field, it

:26:04. > :26:09.will be a very tough shot to beat him. Vanessa, you are Democrat,

:26:10. > :26:14.Bernie Sanders? Yes, I am his target audience, I am a millennial, I have

:26:15. > :26:18.student debt, the cards are stacked against us, and I'm ready for

:26:19. > :26:22.change. It is part of the reason I moved abroad three years ago, I used

:26:23. > :26:24.to live in China which is not the standard American democracy that we

:26:25. > :26:30.should all aspire to be, but after moving here, I really saw the

:26:31. > :26:36.opportunities to have access to health care, to limit gun control,

:26:37. > :26:41.and access to those weapons here, and I think it should be standard in

:26:42. > :26:47.America as well. After last night, it doesn't look... It isn't looking

:26:48. > :26:50.like it is going to be him? No, it's not, and after studying economics, I

:26:51. > :26:55.think you have a real good point about the validity of some of these

:26:56. > :26:59.Republican candidate and how these outrageous things that Trump is

:27:00. > :27:06.saying is pandering to a very small but powerful community that's giving

:27:07. > :27:13.him all the support for some reason. I think in reality, the GOP really

:27:14. > :27:18.needs a makeover on what it stands for and who it is trying to reach in

:27:19. > :27:24.order to fight Donald Trump. Just quickly, if it is Donald Trump, will

:27:25. > :27:28.you swing behind him? No. I would have a very hard time voting for

:27:29. > :27:35.Donald Trump unless you see significant change. So what would

:27:36. > :27:42.you do? If it was Trump versus Hillary, but if I had to pick one, I

:27:43. > :27:46.probably would vote for Hillary. And what would you do? I probably

:27:47. > :27:53.wouldn't vote. It is super Tuesday, so there is

:27:54. > :27:57.probably some way to go. Now, if you are in your 20s, when do you think

:27:58. > :28:01.you will be able to retire? At the moment, the retirement age for men

:28:02. > :28:07.is Dixie five and women 63, but by 2020, both men and women will retire

:28:08. > :28:13.at 66, a six-year jump for women in ten years. Experts warn that people

:28:14. > :28:17.who are only just beginning to join the workforce could have to carry on

:28:18. > :28:21.working far longer, with a potential retirement age of their mid-70s,

:28:22. > :28:25.possibly even having to work into their 80s. A review of the state

:28:26. > :28:29.pension age is currently under way. Steve Webb, the former Liberal

:28:30. > :28:35.Democrat pensions minister, now director of policy in London, told

:28:36. > :28:40.me that young people need to get into a saving habit. There are two

:28:41. > :28:43.issues, one of which is that we are living longer on average, so the

:28:44. > :28:50.state pension age will go up more, that is happening around the world.

:28:51. > :28:52.But that is made worse by the fact that we are generally saving less

:28:53. > :28:57.our retirement, so although we might get a state pension at 70, something

:28:58. > :29:01.like that, if they had been earning a decent wage, they will not want to

:29:02. > :29:05.retire on ?8,000 a year, they will need something more, and unless we

:29:06. > :29:08.get into much more of the savings habit, they would be able to afford

:29:09. > :29:14.to retire even at the state pension age. So you're saying what about the

:29:15. > :29:18.age retirement? The estimate we have made is that people aged 32 now, if

:29:19. > :29:23.they only say that the minimum level the Government acquires, 8% of their

:29:24. > :29:25.salary, they could be working to something like 77.

:29:26. > :29:37.# People aged -- 22 now. Perhaps when they get a

:29:38. > :29:40.pay rise, they could put that extra bit in before they spend it, and

:29:41. > :29:44.gradually build up, because otherwise people won't have choices

:29:45. > :29:49.about when they retire, they will either have to retire on a meagre

:29:50. > :29:53.income all work for longer. And could people find themselves

:29:54. > :29:56.working into their eighties? That particularly applies to people who

:29:57. > :29:59.don't start saving at the beginning of their working life. It is not

:30:00. > :30:05.uncommon for people not to think about pensions until there are 30 or

:30:06. > :30:07.40, and the brutal arithmetic is if you don't start until you are half

:30:08. > :30:11.the way through your working life, you don't have the time to build up

:30:12. > :30:15.the pot you need for the retirement you want. In a sense, this isn't

:30:16. > :30:21.telling people off, it is saying, think about yourself, think about

:30:22. > :30:24.yourself when you are older, the quality-of-life you want, and if you

:30:25. > :30:27.don't want to have to work until you drop, if you want to have time with

:30:28. > :30:31.grandchildren or travel or whatever it is, you need to put more aside

:30:32. > :30:34.now? How do you persuade young people to do that when life is

:30:35. > :30:39.already expensive enough, they have debts from studies, expensive rent,

:30:40. > :30:50.they are trying to get into the property

:30:51. > :30:59.There is lots of pressure on young people. There is one encouraging

:31:00. > :31:05.development. Government rules that put workers into a pension. Millions

:31:06. > :31:10.of people are free to opt out of the pension but they have not done so.

:31:11. > :31:14.Lots of twentysomethings do have a pension. Getting started is really

:31:15. > :31:20.important. I am not saying you should put a fortune into a pension

:31:21. > :31:25.at 22. I am saying that when you are saving a pension with your employer

:31:26. > :31:29.you get tax relief from the government. As your career

:31:30. > :31:32.progresses, as you get a pay rise, as you get promotions, put some of

:31:33. > :31:38.that money aside before you have spent it. What does the political

:31:39. > :31:43.change to the pensions system do to the confidence of people? We need a

:31:44. > :31:48.period of stability. We have the budget in a couple of weeks. There

:31:49. > :31:51.is expected to be an announcement on pension tax relief. I hope something

:31:52. > :31:56.will emerge from that that is stable, simple and predictable. Yes

:31:57. > :32:00.of course, pensions are not just for Christmas, they are for life. People

:32:01. > :32:05.need to know the state pension will be there when they retire. We do

:32:06. > :32:09.desperately need a period of stability and simplicity.

:32:10. > :32:17.Steve Webb, former pensions minister. Katie McCarron is 23 and

:32:18. > :32:25.has two jobs. She never even thinks about pensions. Daniel Walters, 26,

:32:26. > :32:32.also never worries about pensions. And Katie Maureen is a personal

:32:33. > :32:34.finance reporter. Katie McLaren, does the thought of saving for your

:32:35. > :32:42.retirement never come into your mind? No. When you are my age,

:32:43. > :32:45.especially if you have been to university, what you are worried

:32:46. > :32:50.about Moore is student debt and trying to get your own house and car

:32:51. > :32:54.and trying to start your life rather than worry about the end of it when

:32:55. > :33:00.you are trying to settle down and find a place. Does it cut through to

:33:01. > :33:05.you when you say somebody saying, if you have that attitude you may find

:33:06. > :33:14.yourself working in your 80s? I worked for quite a few years of my

:33:15. > :33:23.life. It is hard to save. If I have to work on my 80s, I will. I think

:33:24. > :33:28.people are not taking into account that it costs more to live nowadays.

:33:29. > :33:33.For young people it is more of a struggle. Daniel, what do you think?

:33:34. > :33:39.I am pretty much of the same opinion. I have struggled with money

:33:40. > :33:43.quite a lot in my life, so I am not thought about pensions. One thing I

:33:44. > :33:48.do think is that maybe there is too much pressure on us to save money

:33:49. > :33:55.when there is not enough pressure on the government to save money on arms

:33:56. > :33:58.and stuff like that. What about the thought of having to work into your

:33:59. > :34:03.80s? Does that make you think you might try to put something away, or

:34:04. > :34:08.would you be prepared to work in your 80s? The way things are going I

:34:09. > :34:14.am not expecting a pension to be available when I am that age anyway,

:34:15. > :34:20.to be honest. How would you feel about working in your 80s? Obviously

:34:21. > :34:25.I would be distraught but it is the system and it is what you would have

:34:26. > :34:32.to do. Caitie, money is tight when you are starting out. These two

:34:33. > :34:36.saying exactly that. How do people find the money to put the wafer

:34:37. > :34:40.pensions? I really feel for these guys. They are typical of young

:34:41. > :34:45.people these days, struggling with student debt, the cost of renting,

:34:46. > :34:49.buying a property, those costs are somewhat greater than in the past.

:34:50. > :34:53.Young people are being hit from all angles. It is all very well to say

:34:54. > :34:56.that you need to save more but that is grossly unrealistic. This

:34:57. > :35:03.proposal by the government extremely worrying. Something we really need

:35:04. > :35:07.to be looking at is healthy life expectancy as well as actual life

:35:08. > :35:11.expectancy. What we know at the moment is around one third of people

:35:12. > :35:15.aged between 65 and 75 have a limiting illness that may prevent

:35:16. > :35:19.them from doing certain types of work. What we should not just assume

:35:20. > :35:24.is that for our generation that is not going to be the case as well.

:35:25. > :35:27.Interestingly, I was talking to a physiotherapist the other day and

:35:28. > :35:31.one of the things she was saying to me was that with the rise of

:35:32. > :35:36.technology and smartphones, she was seeing a lot of people with injuries

:35:37. > :35:40.from text thing and back injuries, skeletal problems, already emerging

:35:41. > :35:46.from our generation. So to limit our pensions now seems quite scary. What

:35:47. > :35:53.would you say? In terms of practical advice. The messages if you do not

:35:54. > :35:58.start saving, you will have to work much later to supplement what you

:35:59. > :36:03.get from the state? Talk directly to Katie and Daniel. Is there anything

:36:04. > :36:09.practical you can tell them? If there was one thing I would say, in

:36:10. > :36:12.about two years all employers will be legally obliged to give you a

:36:13. > :36:16.company pension. The great thing about that is that they put money in

:36:17. > :36:23.as well and you put money on. That grows over time. That is in a way

:36:24. > :36:25.free money you would not get if you were not putting into the pension

:36:26. > :36:32.and you will automatically be enrolled. It is easy to allow

:36:33. > :36:36.yourself to be in those pensions. If you want a comfortable retirement,

:36:37. > :36:45.you would need to be adding more into that pension or saving and

:36:46. > :36:49.ices. If you did want any chance of retiring earlier are having a good

:36:50. > :36:53.standard of living, you have to start saving young. The great thing

:36:54. > :36:58.about starting saving when you are young is that the money has got more

:36:59. > :37:01.time to grow. You have that big a chance for pensions. At least you

:37:02. > :37:04.guys are thinking about that now rather than leaving it until the

:37:05. > :37:10.last minute, which is the worst thing you could do. What do you each

:37:11. > :37:14.think of that? I am of the opinion basically that all of this is about

:37:15. > :37:19.not having enough money, our system does not have enough money. But it

:37:20. > :37:23.does. We have the money to spend on arms and missiles. How have we not

:37:24. > :37:29.got enough money to protect the most vulnerable people in society? I

:37:30. > :37:34.would love to start saving for a pension but when you are living

:37:35. > :37:37.month by month and you are happy that you're making rent and can

:37:38. > :37:47.afford better food, it is all well and good. But I cannot put one aside

:37:48. > :37:49.a month. I certainly could not put something aside to some kind of

:37:50. > :37:57.future. Thank you all very much.

:37:58. > :38:02.Food prices will go up if Britain leaves the EU, according to the

:38:03. > :38:06.government. Norman Smith can explain.

:38:07. > :38:12.Claim and counterclaim continue. What is the latest? We are only one

:38:13. > :38:17.week into this referendum campaign and already it feels like a

:38:18. > :38:21.spaghetti western with big old crashing tables and chairs being

:38:22. > :38:26.turned over. I don't know how we are going to sustain this performer --

:38:27. > :38:30.four months. Today we have a row over what on earth will happen if

:38:31. > :38:33.and when we leave. It is one of the unanswered questions of this

:38:34. > :38:38.campaign. Those who want to leave have not been spelt out what leave

:38:39. > :38:40.might actually look like. The government have done the job for

:38:41. > :38:44.them and they have concluded basically that all of the options

:38:45. > :38:55.are pretty unpleasant. And certainly worse than remaining in. Option one

:38:56. > :39:00.is the Norway example. Norway has access to the EU single market, even

:39:01. > :39:05.though it is outside the EU, but the price they have to pay is they have

:39:06. > :39:08.two allow EU migrants free access to nowhere. If we did that we could

:39:09. > :39:11.still do nothing about stopping EU migrants coming to Britain. He

:39:12. > :40:03.second option is the Swiss option. In terms of food, the Government are

:40:04. > :40:12.saying that you could face tariffs of up to 50%, and companies would

:40:13. > :40:15.pass the bill is consumers. In the last few minutes, we have been

:40:16. > :40:18.hearing from the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, who said that even

:40:19. > :40:22.negotiating those deals would involve the prolonged period of

:40:23. > :40:30.uncertainty which would amend it is business. Our economy would

:40:31. > :40:34.literally be on hold whilst our competitors, including our European

:40:35. > :40:39.competitors, forge ahead. And at the end of two years, there is no

:40:40. > :40:43.guarantee at all that we would have reached agreement, but our exit

:40:44. > :40:48.would be automatic unless every single member of the remaining

:40:49. > :40:55.European union agreed to an extension. Access to the single

:40:56. > :40:59.market would cease, our trading agreements with more than 50

:41:00. > :41:03.countries around the world would lapse within immediate and negative

:41:04. > :41:08.effect on confidence, growth investments and jobs. Years of

:41:09. > :41:14.uncertainty Fern Britton, just as we are getting back on our feet.

:41:15. > :41:19.It is probably one of the laws of politics that if you do not define

:41:20. > :41:24.yourself, your opponents will do it for you. If you do not set out your

:41:25. > :41:28.stall, they will set out their stall and it will not look very

:41:29. > :41:31.favourable. That is kind of what we have seen today because the out

:41:32. > :41:36.campaign have not been able to tell us what leaving the EU would look

:41:37. > :41:38.like. Mr Cameron and his supporters have decided to do the job for them

:41:39. > :41:45.and it is not a pretty picture. In the past few hours an American

:41:46. > :41:48.astronaut and a Russian cosmonaut have returned to Earth safely

:41:49. > :41:50.after spending nearly a year in space, on a mission intended

:41:51. > :41:53.to prepare for a possible The scientists spent 340 days aboard

:41:54. > :41:56.the International Space Station trying to learn more about how

:41:57. > :41:59.the human body adjusts to weightlessness and the

:42:00. > :42:01.high-radiation environment of space. We can speak now to Monica Grady,

:42:02. > :42:03.Professor in Planetary Sciences, at the Open University,

:42:04. > :42:05.and Brendan Owens, astronomer at the Royal Observatory

:42:06. > :42:09.in Greenwich. They have been in space for nearly a

:42:10. > :42:12.year. What would you expect the impact to be. --? They have lost

:42:13. > :42:15.bone density and muscle wastage. What is the interesting about this

:42:16. > :42:19.particular mention is that the American astronaut has a twin

:42:20. > :42:22.brother who stayed behind on earth. They will be comparing his changes

:42:23. > :42:28.with what has happened to his brother in the first study like

:42:29. > :42:34.this. Was he picked deliberately because of that? Both of them are

:42:35. > :42:40.astronauts, very handy. Every great opportunity. How does it prepare for

:42:41. > :42:44.possible voyage to Mars? A voyage to Mars will take at least nine months.

:42:45. > :42:48.You will be nine months in a low gravity environment where your

:42:49. > :42:52.muscles will waste, your bones will lose density, your circulation will

:42:53. > :42:57.start changing, you will be subject to radiation. So having somebody for

:42:58. > :43:01.a long time in a low gravity environment prepares for that, see

:43:02. > :43:05.what sort of changes happen and how you can prevent them occurring and

:43:06. > :43:09.make sure they are not so bad. You are always seen the astronauts on

:43:10. > :43:14.treadmills and running on the space station. This is why, so they keep

:43:15. > :43:18.fit and their body does not decay. Thank you very much.

:43:19. > :43:21.Thank you for your company this morning. So many getting in touch

:43:22. > :43:26.about whether tackling should be banned in rugby in schools. Reginald

:43:27. > :43:32.has e-mailed to say that he played rugby from 11 to 36, never agreed

:43:33. > :43:40.with school policy forcing pupils to play. Felt sorry for those always

:43:41. > :43:45.last to be chosen. The BBC's website have been asking you to vote on the

:43:46. > :43:51.issue. The result suggests 15% say it should be banned, 85% say it

:43:52. > :43:55.shouldn't. Keep the comments coming by a social media. That never

:43:56. > :44:12.closes. Back same time tomorrow. Had a good afternoon. Goodbye.

:44:13. > :44:14.# All my friends know the low rider. #