04/03/2016

:00:00. > :00:08.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9.15, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

:00:09. > :00:14.Twins born with cerebral palsy - but only one is offered

:00:15. > :00:19.Their parents call on the NHS to offer this operation to more

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:00:29. > :00:30.finance expert Martin Lewis launches a charity to help.

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:02:10. > :02:11.with cerebral palsy are calling on the NHS to allow life-altering

:02:12. > :02:16.surgery that was offered to only one of their children to be made

:02:17. > :02:19.available to everyone who needs it, rather than a select few.

:02:20. > :02:21.Emma and Phil's 3-year-old daughter Ava was able

:02:22. > :02:28.to have an operation that would allow her to walk,

:02:29. > :02:30.but her brother, Louie, who has the same condition,

:02:31. > :02:32.was denied the life changing operation.

:02:33. > :02:34.Emma, Phil and Louie are here with us, while Ava

:02:35. > :02:37.is at home in Hull with her grandparents, having physiotherapy.

:02:38. > :02:44.It is great to see you all, thanks coming in. Thanks for having us.

:02:45. > :02:48.Just explain what has happened, because Ava has had surgery and

:02:49. > :03:05.Louie has been unable to have it. That is right, we went to our late

:03:06. > :03:09.-- our local STR surgery, something was being completed as part of a

:03:10. > :03:16.trial. It was mixed news, because Ava just has diplegia, so her legs

:03:17. > :03:21.are affected. She got a yes on the NHS, but because Louie's disability

:03:22. > :03:25.is a little more extensive, he unfortunately got a no. It was quite

:03:26. > :03:30.difficult for us at that time having received the mixed news. Take us

:03:31. > :03:37.back to when the twins were born, and how you discover that they had

:03:38. > :03:43.cerebral palsy. They came at 31 weeks. So really early. Yes, nine

:03:44. > :03:49.weeks premature, so they went into the neonatal unit straightaway.

:03:50. > :03:54.Louie was on a machine which hoped him breathe the first five days of

:03:55. > :04:04.his life. Due to him being on that, he was given a routine ultrasound.

:04:05. > :04:10.That discovered flares on the brain. They told us that was most likely

:04:11. > :04:14.caused by the premature birth. Further tests on Ava revealed that

:04:15. > :04:19.she had the same thing, so our whole world caved in at that point. All we

:04:20. > :04:23.knew was that Louie's damage was a little more extensive than Ava's,

:04:24. > :04:27.but to what extent we didn't know. So obviously very difficult, it felt

:04:28. > :04:32.like we were on a roulette wheel not knowing where we were going to land

:04:33. > :04:34.the quite a long time. And being new parents as well, obviously it was

:04:35. > :04:41.very difficult for us, so it took quite some time to get a head around

:04:42. > :04:46.that. Ended you know much about cerebral palsy before? At the time,

:04:47. > :04:49.not at all, and it took a long time to get around looking at things

:04:50. > :04:53.because we were trying to deal with it. There was a really difficult

:04:54. > :04:57.time for us. One of the good things about finding out so early was that

:04:58. > :05:01.we had a head start. A lot of children don't get diagnosed until

:05:02. > :05:04.they are 18 months when they are not hitting their milestones, so we were

:05:05. > :05:10.lucky that we found out early so we had a head start, so we have had

:05:11. > :05:15.unbelievable treatment from the NHS, with physiotherapy, occupational

:05:16. > :05:19.therapy, paediatricians. Lindt Louie's physiotherapist has been

:05:20. > :05:22.with him since he was three weeks old, at the diagnosis, so he has

:05:23. > :05:27.such a lovely bond with her and she is amazing. She does above and

:05:28. > :05:34.beyond a physiotherapist. As everybody does. Yes, yes. What made

:05:35. > :05:37.things worse, they were still in hospital, so we were having to leave

:05:38. > :05:42.the hospital every night while they were still in the neonatal unit, so

:05:43. > :05:47.we didn't have our babies with us. We had been given us this

:05:48. > :05:54.devastating news, trying to come to terms with that. They did paint a

:05:55. > :06:00.very black picture, so we almost started a bit of a grieving process

:06:01. > :06:04.of the life we envisaged with our children. But at the same time, we

:06:05. > :06:07.still had our children, and we were grateful for that, but at the same

:06:08. > :06:13.time you are still just trying to get your head around what has been

:06:14. > :06:18.told to you. So, yes. And how were they developing, because obviously

:06:19. > :06:21.knowing prior to the situation for most parents, when they only

:06:22. > :06:26.discover when the developmental milestones aren't fit, you were able

:06:27. > :06:30.to see it unfold? Yes, with them being very small, they did tell us

:06:31. > :06:33.that premature babies don't generally hit the milestones anyway,

:06:34. > :06:39.so that was thrown into the mix as well. In a way, when they did start

:06:40. > :06:44.doing things, like Louie smiled before Ava, Louie took to the bottle

:06:45. > :06:50.before Ava did, so things from an early stage looked pretty good. We

:06:51. > :06:54.are thankful to say that things have not turned out as bad as the

:06:55. > :06:57.paediatrician told us it may, which in hindsight is a good thing,

:06:58. > :07:02.because we really celebrate everything they do as they were

:07:03. > :07:09.growing up. So we are doing really well, yes. We were quite critical, I

:07:10. > :07:13.think, because anything they weren't doing, it was blown out of

:07:14. > :07:19.proportion. Louie suffered from acid reflux at three months old. And we

:07:20. > :07:23.automatically thought he was going to have a problem with feeding, due

:07:24. > :07:28.to his cerebral palsy. It was just acid reflux, and it was controlled

:07:29. > :07:33.through medication, but you have always got that in the back of your

:07:34. > :07:38.head. We used to call it the big dark cloud that followed us around,

:07:39. > :07:45.unfortunately. Which, to an extent, is likely still there, isn't it? You

:07:46. > :07:49.just learn to deal with it, I think. Louie has also got epilepsy. He has

:07:50. > :07:55.had a couple of seizures, one fairly recently, but it is under control.

:07:56. > :08:00.Under control to a degree, so we just carry on and do we do. We just

:08:01. > :08:06.try to stay positive all the time. It sounds like you have had fabulous

:08:07. > :08:10.treatment and support. We have, yes. You've ended discover the

:08:11. > :08:16.possibilities of this operation with the trial, and Ava had it. What

:08:17. > :08:20.difference has that made to her? For Ava, it has just been completely

:08:21. > :08:24.life changing. Prior to her operation, she was getting around,

:08:25. > :08:29.crawling, but also using a little Walker with wheels, and she was

:08:30. > :08:34.always right on her tiptoes, literally on the cause of photos,

:08:35. > :08:43.knees together, legs out on the knuckles of Heurtaux is, but

:08:44. > :08:51.straight after the -- the knuckles of her toes. Then after the

:08:52. > :08:56.operation, we have never seen her legs move like that. It was

:08:57. > :09:00.incredible. For five days post-bop, we stood her up for the first time

:09:01. > :09:08.and her feet were flat on the floor. It was just incredible. We can't say

:09:09. > :09:18.how much we were over the moon by it. -- post operation. And so now

:09:19. > :09:22.you on the same for Louie. Yes, absolutely. It has made us more

:09:23. > :09:31.determined, seeing the instant progress of Ava. There she is. Such

:09:32. > :09:36.a difference. You said that he didn't effectively qualify for the

:09:37. > :09:43.NHS trial, because his muscle paralysis is worse than Ava's. Yes,

:09:44. > :09:48.his grade of cerebral palsy is worse than Ava cosmic. This trial is to

:09:49. > :09:51.demonstrate the biggest improvement in children so that the NHS Trust in

:09:52. > :09:55.England can make an assessment on whether this is going to be

:09:56. > :10:04.available long-term, based on what we would say is the best cases for

:10:05. > :10:07.the most improvement. For now you are in the situation you are in, and

:10:08. > :10:13.you have raised money to take him to the States. Yes, when we got a no

:10:14. > :10:20.from Leeds, we sent our case over to Saint Louis in America, where the

:10:21. > :10:25.centre is for SDR. Dr parked there has done I believe over 2500

:10:26. > :10:31.operations, and he actually trained the NHS neurosurgeons to do the

:10:32. > :10:33.trials. So we sent that income and in early December we got a letter

:10:34. > :10:38.back saying that they believed Louie would be an excellent candidate for

:10:39. > :10:45.the surgery, which we are absolutely over the moon with, so that is when

:10:46. > :10:48.the fundraising began. We had Ava going to the hospital in January the

:10:49. > :10:53.her surgery, but things have gone unbelievable for us, we have got

:10:54. > :10:56.unbelievable exposure. You have had similar challenges, dealing with

:10:57. > :11:02.that and then fundraising for him to be able to get the treatment. It

:11:03. > :11:13.must be all consuming? We spent a month in Leeds with Ava, do you want

:11:14. > :11:16.to take? Yes. And we started the fundraising campaign for Louie, and

:11:17. > :11:22.we were away from him when we were in hospital with Ava. But they have

:11:23. > :11:25.had physiotherapy from three weeks old, the interventions have always

:11:26. > :11:31.been there, so we're kind of used to it, aren't we, I suppose? We just

:11:32. > :11:34.get on with it. When we think back and think of what we do everyday,

:11:35. > :11:39.and what we have done with the fundraising, it is just incredible.

:11:40. > :11:47.Yes, but we have amazing family and friends network of support. So when

:11:48. > :11:51.are you hoping he will go for the surgery? As soon as we got home,

:11:52. > :11:56.couple of days ago, we contacted Dr Parks in America and we are now on

:11:57. > :12:02.the waiting list. He is the leading surgeon for this, so there's a huge

:12:03. > :12:08.waiting list, over a year long. Oh gosh, when might you be able to be

:12:09. > :12:12.ripped in, then? January. And it is best done before the fourth

:12:13. > :12:17.birthday, isn't it? Yes, they do say that, but with Louie, his cerebral

:12:18. > :12:23.palsy being a bit more extensive, we have a few other things to try, that

:12:24. > :12:28.will give us the opportunity to get Ava through her rehab as well.

:12:29. > :12:33.Things have sort of panned out, the sooner the better really, but things

:12:34. > :12:38.have worked out with Ava. And there are other things we can try with

:12:39. > :12:42.Louie. We have been looking at the pictures with Ava, she is out of the

:12:43. > :12:46.wheelchair, walking with sticks, are you hoping that she will ultimately

:12:47. > :12:51.be put walk pretty normally? We don't like to say that but that is

:12:52. > :12:55.our ultimate hope, and everything is looking fantastic. She is on to her

:12:56. > :12:59.little sticks now, and we are only six or seven weeks after the

:13:00. > :13:03.operation, so she was doing fantastically well. She has

:13:04. > :13:07.progressed in the last seven weeks more so than the last years. Her

:13:08. > :13:12.achievement every week is incredible so who knows where we will be in the

:13:13. > :13:17.next seven weeks? How is Louie when he looks at his sister? Yes, he is

:13:18. > :13:23.noticing. There has always been that difference there, but she is really

:13:24. > :13:27.pulling away now. There isn't a day that goes by that Louie says can I

:13:28. > :13:34.walk, can I go on my knees, like Ava? Even in the playground, all the

:13:35. > :13:42.other boys are playing football, and is Louie as there is wheelchair. So

:13:43. > :13:46.for us, it is heartbreaking. You are in such an unusual situation, having

:13:47. > :13:50.the twins at having the two different experiences, but you are

:13:51. > :13:55.hoping you can get the message that this treatment will be made more

:13:56. > :13:59.widely available? I think also when there is that option of going to

:14:00. > :14:05.America, and as daunting as it is, we have done it with twins, where

:14:06. > :14:15.Louie thankfully got the support the funds where we can take to America,

:14:16. > :14:20.and is achievable. The NHS have been there for us since the beginning. We

:14:21. > :14:25.are absolutely thankful of that, but this operation needs rolling out.

:14:26. > :14:29.Because it does change lives, it really does. We have seen it with

:14:30. > :14:34.Ava. Other families have been in touch with us. Their children are

:14:35. > :14:38.similar to Ava, but now the funding has stopped on the trial, so they

:14:39. > :14:44.are having to self fund to get where they need to be. If anything, we

:14:45. > :14:47.want this, for the right child, not for everybody, but for the right

:14:48. > :14:51.child we would love to see this surgery readily available on the

:14:52. > :14:59.NHS. Yes. I would just like to say as well have it has been in the

:15:00. > :15:05.papers about the Variety children's charity stepping in. Last Sunday, we

:15:06. > :15:08.were over here and we got a call that the Variety charity were going

:15:09. > :15:12.to make up the funds for us for our stint in America, which has just

:15:13. > :15:18.been absolutely fantastic. So we can't be any more thankful for that,

:15:19. > :15:22.we are just completely overwhelmed. As well as everybody who has

:15:23. > :15:25.devoted, it has just been incredible. We have still got

:15:26. > :15:30.ongoing fundraising events, because what we are going to need to do is

:15:31. > :15:33.self fund physiotherapy when we get back from America. Because you are

:15:34. > :15:39.having the operation done privately so you don't qualify for the NHS.

:15:40. > :15:46.Not to the extent of what we will need. Yes, basically Ava for three

:15:47. > :15:52.times a week the six months will have physio at our local hospital in

:15:53. > :15:56.Hull. We believe the NHS won't offer that for Louie if we go abroad, so

:15:57. > :16:01.there will be a lot of ongoing costs, that is why we are carrying

:16:02. > :16:04.on our fundraising. Friends and family have been incredible, at

:16:05. > :16:10.organising fund-raising events, and we could not have done it without

:16:11. > :16:15.them. They dedicated their whole year to us, other support is

:16:16. > :16:20.incredible, it is just breathtaking. As well as when we win the paper on

:16:21. > :16:24.Saturday, watching the funds coming up, and lovely messages from

:16:25. > :16:27.everyone. We were on five live, it has just been a complete whirlwind

:16:28. > :16:33.for us this last week, so we are completely and utterly over the

:16:34. > :16:37.moon. And it is just nice hearing from families in the same situation,

:16:38. > :16:42.maybe just one child affected. But it is nice to talk to them. You get

:16:43. > :16:56.inspired by them and them from us. A lotta people have been getting in

:16:57. > :17:01.touch. Emily has said, it is disgusting what has happened to the

:17:02. > :17:05.family, sorry, only one of your children is eligible for surgery.

:17:06. > :17:08.Hopefully that little boy will get his operation to walk like his twin

:17:09. > :17:11.sister. You deserve all the support you can.

:17:12. > :17:46.We'll be talking live to personal finance guru Martin Lewis

:17:47. > :17:49.about the number of people in debt who also have a mental health

:17:50. > :17:51.problem - and how he's hoping to help them.

:17:52. > :17:54.There's a warning of a looming shortage of accommodation in the UK

:17:55. > :18:03.for asylum seekers - we'll have the details.

:18:04. > :18:07.The BBC understands Facebook is to pay millions of pounds more

:18:08. > :18:11.The company, which has faced heavy criticism that it was avoiding,

:18:12. > :18:23.will stop routing the proceeds of sales for its largest,

:18:24. > :18:25.-- largest advertisers, such as Unilever, Tesco and,

:18:26. > :18:29.The new changes will be put in place in April and Facebook's first,

:18:30. > :18:31.higher tax bill, will be paid in 2017.

:18:32. > :18:33.Northern Ireland's First Minister Arlene Foster has described

:18:34. > :18:35.an attack on a prison officer in East Belfast this morning

:18:36. > :18:39.The officer has been taken to hospital after a device

:18:40. > :18:41.exploded under a vehicle in the Woodstock Road area shortly

:18:42. > :18:46.British scientists say they've discovered a way to guide the immune

:18:47. > :18:48.system to kill cancers in what's been described

:18:49. > :18:56.as an exciting advance in our understanding of the disease.

:18:57. > :19:01.The team suggests the method could be used to find unique features in a

:19:02. > :19:04.cancer tumour, helping the body's own defences

:19:05. > :19:07.to target the diseased cells. The Work and Pensions Secretary,

:19:08. > :19:09.Iain Duncan-Smith, has launched his strongest attack yet

:19:10. > :19:11.on those campaigning for the UK to stay in the European Union,

:19:12. > :19:14.suggesting their smears and threats could cause lasting

:19:15. > :19:16.damage to the Government. He's stopped short of any direct

:19:17. > :19:18.criticism of David Cameron, but he says the integrity of those

:19:19. > :19:21.making such claims could be undermined in the eyes

:19:22. > :19:23.of the public. The North Korean leader,

:19:24. > :19:25.Kim Jong-un, has ordered his military to be ready to fire

:19:26. > :19:27.the country's nuclear weapons The state news agency in Pyongyang

:19:28. > :19:31.said he had also directed that North Korea's be capable

:19:32. > :19:35.of launching a pre-emptive strike. The remarks follow new United

:19:36. > :19:37.Nations sanctions in response to a nuclear test and rocket launch

:19:38. > :19:44.in January. Scientists in America believe

:19:45. > :19:46.an advanced vaccine for the zika virus could be ready for human

:19:47. > :19:50.trials by August or September. The work on a Zika drug

:19:51. > :19:54.is focused on pregnant women. It's thought the virus,

:19:55. > :19:56.spread by mosquitoes, is linked to babies being born

:19:57. > :19:59.with abnormally small heads The north of England has been

:20:00. > :20:03.blanketed with snow, with as much as 10 centimetres

:20:04. > :20:06.reported on high ground. Schools have been closed

:20:07. > :20:08.and flights have been delayed. The Met Office is warning motorists

:20:09. > :20:12.to allow extra time for journeys because of icy conditions

:20:13. > :20:16.on the roads. And Katherine can tell us

:20:17. > :20:35.about another terrific performance what a start! A brilliant sixth

:20:36. > :20:40.world title for her at the world track cycling Championships? She is

:20:41. > :20:44.only 23 and said she was not feeling very good for the scratch race last

:20:45. > :20:50.night. She chased down a pack to win the world title. Also a medal for

:20:51. > :20:56.Sir Bradley Wiggins and his men's team pursuit team. They won silver,

:20:57. > :20:59.narrowly pipped by Australia. Britain's cyclists looking in

:21:00. > :21:04.brilliant form ahead of the Olympics. We will also be heading

:21:05. > :21:08.outside in Salford, where it is snowing, to the five aside pitch

:21:09. > :21:13.which has been set up. Alan Shearer and Robbie Savage up playing 57

:21:14. > :21:18.hours of five a side that book. That is how many hours a Premier League

:21:19. > :21:24.team plays in a season. All raising money. Really. We'll see how they

:21:25. > :21:30.are going 24 hours in. Also the latest from the cup where England

:21:31. > :21:36.women are playing football against America. In the Davis Cup, Great

:21:37. > :21:40.Britain is defending its title. They kick off against Japan. Andy Murray

:21:41. > :21:42.gets things under way. A big name for the home crowd to get behind.

:21:43. > :21:46.See you later. It's thought that half

:21:47. > :21:48.of all British adults with a debt problem have a mental

:21:49. > :21:50.health condition. So, just how far does

:21:51. > :21:52.the relationship between mental Martin Lewis, the money advice

:21:53. > :21:56.expert, is launching a charity today to research the issue -

:21:57. > :21:59.one idea is to get credit card providers to freeze accounts

:22:00. > :22:01.of customers with mental health issues if there are unusual

:22:02. > :22:03.spending patterns. The customer

:22:04. > :22:04.would sign up voluntarily - would have the power to unlock

:22:05. > :22:09.the account when the Also here is Dominic,

:22:10. > :22:16.a business owner who finds it hard staying

:22:17. > :22:27.on top of the finances due Thank you both for coming in. Martin

:22:28. > :22:32.Metellus first of all about what you are concerned about in particular.

:22:33. > :22:35.-- Martin, first of all. If you have a mental health condition or your

:22:36. > :22:40.partner does you are five times more likely to be in debt crisis than

:22:41. > :22:45.anyone else was if you have clinical depression and financial issues, the

:22:46. > :22:49.treatment path is 18 months longer than people without the issues. The

:22:50. > :23:00.stress and anxiety makes treatment more difficult. The cost of the NHS

:23:01. > :23:02.of that is huge. We know having mental health problems can easily

:23:03. > :23:05.cause debts. If I broke my leg today I would be in hospital tonight. I

:23:06. > :23:12.might need a couple of weeks off work. I'm still capable of making

:23:13. > :23:16.good decisions. If I had a mental health breakdown today, it would be

:23:17. > :23:21.ten weeks before I got a treatment or appointment. In the meantime, my

:23:22. > :23:25.decision making is impaired. That is one decision that people with mental

:23:26. > :23:31.health problems struggle with. I might not tell my employer or go --

:23:32. > :23:35.and I might go on a spending spree. Another ten weeks before the

:23:36. > :23:40.treatment gets me anywhere. After that period, it is not just that my

:23:41. > :23:45.finances are ruined in the short term, that can be ten, 20 years of

:23:46. > :23:50.detriment. We know the huge anxiety that comes from serious debts also

:23:51. > :23:55.is a trigger for clinical mental health conditions. This is a

:23:56. > :23:58.marriage made in how and to feed off each other. What is not happen

:23:59. > :24:10.before is genuine preventative work saying, what can we put in place as

:24:11. > :24:13.blockers to enable people when they are feeling right and when they are

:24:14. > :24:15.in control of themselves to help control themselves when they are out

:24:16. > :24:18.of control? We have lots of system setup but very little setup to help

:24:19. > :24:27.you protect yourself and we want to use similar tools to be able -- be

:24:28. > :24:32.able for people to use. It is to stop people splurging when they are

:24:33. > :24:36.not thinking straight. This is day one of this institute. It is about

:24:37. > :24:41.coming up with research and ideas. Those are the easiest concepts to

:24:42. > :24:45.explain. It is such a complex picture. In the States, you can put

:24:46. > :24:50.the credit freeze on your account. It means you cannot get any new

:24:51. > :24:54.credit, you cannot do any new borrowing for eight weeks. If you

:24:55. > :24:58.are having a bipolar hypomania phase, where you think you rule the

:24:59. > :25:03.world and want to set up a business you think will be the next Google,

:25:04. > :25:08.at the moment there is nothing to stop you doing. If you put a lock on

:25:09. > :25:13.your credit account when you are not in that phase, there is a pause. You

:25:14. > :25:16.cannot unlock it or do anything, you will have to wait. Hopefully by then

:25:17. > :25:19.your mental health status will change it is those techniques we

:25:20. > :25:26.want to look at and then lobbied to get them in place. He said you had

:25:27. > :25:32.mental health issues playing into debt issues. Both of them coming

:25:33. > :25:36.into play for you. What have you experienced is being? As for mental

:25:37. > :25:41.health, I am probably in the middle ground. I do not suffer extremes of

:25:42. > :25:47.anything. I take the medication kind of to level things out. But, when

:25:48. > :25:51.you are in business yourself, you do all of the roles in business. It is

:25:52. > :25:55.not just turning up at work knowing there is someone on reception,

:25:56. > :25:59.someone doing accounts, book-keeping, giving out orders or

:26:00. > :26:06.anything. If you are on your own can you do all of it. Huge pressure?

:26:07. > :26:10.Then you have labourers and things they want paying as you go along. It

:26:11. > :26:15.is trying to keep the balance constantly on that was if you have

:26:16. > :26:19.an off day, you do not want to go and do something. I cannot phone in

:26:20. > :26:23.sick, I cannot turn around and say I want more money this week because I

:26:24. > :26:28.need more money because I'm going to have a couple of days off or

:26:29. > :26:33.anything. How do you feel when all of that gets on top of you? It makes

:26:34. > :26:40.you shut off. You want to sit and watch the TV all day. You kind of

:26:41. > :26:50.want to get away from it also get some respite from it. -- from it

:26:51. > :26:55.all, so you get respite. What about things like the credit freeze? Would

:26:56. > :27:00.that be of help for you? It sounds like a good idea. It is about how

:27:01. > :27:04.exactly it would work in my scenario. If someone were to tummy I

:27:05. > :27:16.could not have my money, it might end badly for them. -- were to tell

:27:17. > :27:19.me. What about if it was from you? Does it offer the respite from

:27:20. > :27:23.problems? There are an enormous number of people with mental health

:27:24. > :27:28.conditions. Many say this is exactly what they want. Some of them say, I

:27:29. > :27:31.would not touch it with a barge pole. We're not trying to offer a

:27:32. > :27:38.one-stop shop. There are many things out there. It is sounding like this

:27:39. > :27:43.is not one for you. I have not tried it. It is possible. At the moment, I

:27:44. > :27:48.cannot see it would work. What you must remember is we are talking a

:27:49. > :27:52.number of different causalities. You are not bipolar. You do not go

:27:53. > :27:56.through Mania phases of spending. That is a massive issue you have

:27:57. > :28:00.where you are out of control and it is not your issue. This is not

:28:01. > :28:05.one-stop shop. There are many other things out there. When we talk to

:28:06. > :28:12.clinicians about this and we say, we want to talk to about money, this is

:28:13. > :28:15.what we are faced with. One reason I started this a decade ago, I met a

:28:16. > :28:23.friend of a friend at a party. I love the website. I am a mental

:28:24. > :28:28.health case worker. Of my work is dealing with their finances. I spend

:28:29. > :28:33.my time doing that. I will be honest with you. Today we are launching

:28:34. > :28:37.this money and mental health policy Institute. We have some amazing

:28:38. > :28:42.brains. This is day one. It is difficult for me to give the Bulls

:28:43. > :28:48.allusions. We want our wonderful ideas. -- be full solutions. From

:28:49. > :28:53.the Minister for mental health to the Lib Dem spokesperson, the head

:28:54. > :28:59.of the Number 10 policy unit on our trustees, a former is running it.

:29:00. > :29:05.Day one brings everyone together to come up with clever ideas. I am just

:29:06. > :29:09.one chap. It is a big resource policy Institute to take this

:29:10. > :29:16.forward. People with mental health issues who had money issues, we want

:29:17. > :29:21.their ideas as well. Everybody would probably say, everyone feels stress

:29:22. > :29:25.about money and handling it and not wanting to open bills sometimes.

:29:26. > :29:32.Have you ever experienced any of these concerns? I am very lucky I am

:29:33. > :29:36.affluent. I have had periods of extreme stress, dark days, when I

:29:37. > :29:41.have struggled to get out of bed. I do not have a clinical mental health

:29:42. > :29:44.condition and I'm not underestimating how difficult it can

:29:45. > :29:51.be at those times. Thank heavens I do not have an hourly rate job! It

:29:52. > :29:56.was on one of those days I vowed I was going to do this. I thought, I

:29:57. > :30:00.am so lucky not to be in that position, to exacerbate everything

:30:01. > :30:03.going on my head is not working as well as it should be today, I do not

:30:04. > :30:09.have other stress is going on top. There is a real understanding from

:30:10. > :30:14.me of what go one. Curative, it has been very good. This is an issue. We

:30:15. > :30:18.have not called this the mental illness and debt Institute, we have

:30:19. > :30:23.called it mental health and money. If you are suffering grief, it is

:30:24. > :30:27.not a mental illness but it impacts on mental health. You talked before

:30:28. > :30:31.about the idea of spotting unusual patterns on your credit card which

:30:32. > :30:34.would go to a nominated trusted friend who would decide whether to

:30:35. > :30:40.unlock it or not. There is no such thing as a trusted friend in law.

:30:41. > :30:45.The last person you would want to do it is your spouse. Imagine someone

:30:46. > :30:49.who does not like you very much because they will not do what you

:30:50. > :30:53.would want them to do in those types of positions. What we would like

:30:54. > :30:58.this to be as credit card companies to call this a high control option,

:30:59. > :31:04.so anybody could opt in. My dream, in ten years' time, you call your

:31:05. > :31:08.bank and you say, you're going to go abroad, is this credit card right?

:31:09. > :31:11.You say, I have clinical depression or bipolar and they say, we have a

:31:12. > :31:15.number of different control mechanisms that can help you to do

:31:16. > :31:19.that and we make it normal. One in four people every year have a mental

:31:20. > :31:22.health condition. You are not special, this is normal. I wrote my

:31:23. > :31:26.first guide to mental health and debt eight years ago. My line was

:31:27. > :31:36.saying I'm going to treat this like any other financial issue. Now it is

:31:37. > :31:38.about getting out of problems once you are in them. We have to break

:31:39. > :31:46.the link. Lots of people getting in touch,

:31:47. > :31:51.Rachel has tweeted great that Martin Lewis is highlighting this issue.

:31:52. > :31:56.Paul has tweeted thanks for this, he is 100% right. An anonymous person

:31:57. > :32:04.has tweeted saying I have been unable to be employed for 18 months.

:32:05. > :32:08.My condition is not recognised as a disability or illness and I have no

:32:09. > :32:11.income. I am being supported by my partner at the moment but the

:32:12. > :32:15.overall impact is horrendous and desperate, I currently have no

:32:16. > :32:20.future hope and have to leave -- live one day at a time. It is worth

:32:21. > :32:24.talking to agencies like citizens advice for one-on-one, step change,

:32:25. > :32:31.national debt line, and Christians against poverty are very good for

:32:32. > :32:34.counselling. Mind and Rethink, the mental health charities. Look at

:32:35. > :32:38.money too, we are a policy Institute. There are agencies out

:32:39. > :32:41.there to help you. Thank you for coming in.

:32:42. > :32:43.One of the Cabinet's leading eurosceptics,

:32:44. > :32:45.Iain Duncan-Smith, has stepped up his attack on the campaign

:32:46. > :32:50.The Work and Pensions Secretary suggested the way it was being

:32:51. > :32:51.conducted could do lasting damage to the government.

:32:52. > :32:58.Our Political Correspondent Chris Mason is at Westminster.

:32:59. > :33:06.So, Chris, what is the latest? Well, here we go from the latest round of

:33:07. > :33:10.battling from both sides in this EU referendum campaign. We are only a

:33:11. > :33:15.fortnight into the official running, the best part of four months to go.

:33:16. > :33:19.This is the article from Iain Duncan Smith, the Work and Pensions

:33:20. > :33:24.Secretary, time to halt the smear, spin and threats, he says there has

:33:25. > :33:27.been highly questionable posse is from the in campaign, the remain

:33:28. > :33:32.campaign, threatening almost biblical consequences if we dare to

:33:33. > :33:35.consider a future outside of the European Union. His suggestion is

:33:36. > :33:37.those making the argument to stay have been bullying voters into

:33:38. > :33:42.agreeing with them and voting to stay. Threatening them with all

:33:43. > :33:46.sorts of apocalyptic pictures of what life would look like on the

:33:47. > :33:50.outside. It is fair to say there have been quite a fewer apocalyptic

:33:51. > :33:53.headlines on both sides of the argument in the last couple of

:33:54. > :33:59.weeks, because Iain Duncan Smith himself in an interview with Laura

:34:00. > :34:04.Kuenssberg about ten days ago, said the UK would be at greater risk of a

:34:05. > :34:07.terror attack if it were to stay in the European Union. So, yes, who

:34:08. > :34:12.says negative campaigning doesn't work? I think both sides recognise

:34:13. > :34:15.that it probably does, so both indulging in a spot of slapping each

:34:16. > :34:16.other off as well as making the positive case that either staying

:34:17. > :34:20.leaving. Thank you very much. criticism over the biopic

:34:21. > :34:24.of the singer Nina Simone. Some are unhappy at the actress

:34:25. > :34:27.wearing an afro wig We'll speak exclusively

:34:28. > :34:33.to Nina's daughter. There have been heated exchanges

:34:34. > :34:35.during the latest televised debate between the four main US Republican

:34:36. > :34:39.presidential hopefuls. It was dominated by attacks

:34:40. > :34:41.on the front-runner, Let's take a closer look

:34:42. > :34:46.at what used to be a happy relationship between Mitt Romney

:34:47. > :34:48.and Mr Trump. The former friends are now

:34:49. > :35:05.going through a very bitter - Mitt is tough, he is smart, he is

:35:06. > :35:14.sharp, it is my honour to indoor smit Romney. -- Mitt Romney. If

:35:15. > :35:17.Donald Trump 's Mac plans were ever in plummeted, the country would sink

:35:18. > :35:24.into prolonged recession. But you say wait, wait, wait, isn't he a

:35:25. > :35:27.huge business success, what ever happened to trump airlines, Trump

:35:28. > :35:36.University, Trump vodka, Trump Magazine, Trump stakes. A business

:35:37. > :35:45.genius he is not. I have made so much more money than Mitt.

:35:46. > :35:50.Dishonesty is Donald Trump's,. He spoke in favour of invading Iraq. He

:35:51. > :35:53.said he saw thousands of muslins in New Jersey celebrating 9/11. Wrong,

:35:54. > :36:04.he saw no such thing, he imagined it. His imagination Matt Dass must

:36:05. > :36:11.not be married to real power. Think of Donald Trump's personal

:36:12. > :36:20.qualities, bullying, greed, showing off, the absurd third-grade

:36:21. > :36:26.theatrics. It is Rubio! We have long referred to him as the Donald, he is

:36:27. > :36:34.the only person in the entire country that we have added an

:36:35. > :36:39.article before his name. He was begging for my endorsement. He is

:36:40. > :36:48.playing the American public for suckers, he gets a free ride to the

:36:49. > :36:48.White House. More coverage of the US presidential campaigns on the

:36:49. > :36:49.website. The Home Office has been warned

:36:50. > :36:52.about a looming shortage of accommodation in the UK

:36:53. > :36:54.for asylum seekers. Ministers have been told more must

:36:55. > :36:56.be done to encourage local authorities to provide housing

:36:57. > :36:59.because of an increase in the number of applicants, and the

:37:00. > :37:00.Government's commitment There's also been criticising

:37:01. > :37:06.of the so-called "red door" policy against asylum seekers

:37:07. > :37:09.in some areas. Tim Loughton MP is a member

:37:10. > :37:12.of the Home Affairs committee - the group of MPs who have made this

:37:13. > :37:15.warning and we're also joined by Robina Qureshi, the Director

:37:16. > :37:28.of Positive Action in Housing. What are your main concerns? The

:37:29. > :37:31.Home Affairs Select Committee has produced this report, and there were

:37:32. > :37:34.a number of criticisms that we have made. Clearly the pressure on people

:37:35. > :37:42.coming here claiming asylum continues. It is up by some 19% in

:37:43. > :37:44.the last year. There are serious concerns about the way that some of

:37:45. > :37:49.the applicants are being dispersed around the UK. Particularly

:37:50. > :37:52.pressures on cities like Middlesbrough, which appears to have

:37:53. > :37:56.more than its fair share of asylum applicants. And of course it is

:37:57. > :38:00.there where the note aureus red door policy happened, where the

:38:01. > :38:06.accommodation of those asylum seekers were all painted with red

:38:07. > :38:10.doors, which is certainly stigmatising and pretty crass. There

:38:11. > :38:12.is another example of another of the companies responsible for asylum

:38:13. > :38:19.seekers issuing coloured wristbands to those people who qualified for

:38:20. > :38:23.free meals and things like that. Again, deeply stigmatising and crass

:38:24. > :38:28.and not the way to look after the honourable people in many cases. So

:38:29. > :38:33.we have been very critical of the way that the contracts have been run

:38:34. > :38:36.by some of the companies providing accommodation for asylum seekers,

:38:37. > :38:39.and the shortage of accommodation and the way the impact of the burden

:38:40. > :38:43.is falling disproportionately on certain parts of the country, and

:38:44. > :38:46.that needs to be sorted out by the Home Office. What impact do you

:38:47. > :38:51.think those two issues are having on perception of asylum seekers and

:38:52. > :38:57.relations within communities? This is a very sensitive situation. We

:38:58. > :39:02.are stepping up to the plate, we are taking a lot of asylum seekers.

:39:03. > :39:07.There were just over 29,000 in the last year, and we are giving safe

:39:08. > :39:11.haven to many people fleeing from their lives from dangerous

:39:12. > :39:15.countries, and that includes Syria. And obviously we have a particular

:39:16. > :39:19.duty there, but it needs to be done sustainably. We need to have a duty

:39:20. > :39:25.of care to these people, to be able to accommodate them in decent

:39:26. > :39:27.accommodation, we need to be about to process the applications as

:39:28. > :39:31.quickly as possible to see if they do have a right to be here and if

:39:32. > :39:35.they are not, they need to be returned to their country of origin

:39:36. > :39:42.as soon as possible. We have a great tradition of being accommodating and

:39:43. > :39:47.welcoming to those in danger and we should not abuse that. At the

:39:48. > :39:54.moment, it is pretty disproportionate, and it needs to be

:39:55. > :40:00.sorted out. The committee has said it is worried about a lack of

:40:01. > :40:04.accommodation. There are supposed to be a fair dispersal policy, that

:40:05. > :40:09.community should have no more than one asylum seeker per 200 head of

:40:10. > :40:14.population. In places like Middlesbrough, that figure seems to

:40:15. > :40:18.be as tight as one to 137, and clearly Middlesbrough needs to be

:40:19. > :40:22.given some help to make sure it is not having to take on undue

:40:23. > :40:25.pressures. So I think the Home Office Sentry has to get a better

:40:26. > :40:29.handle on this. We need to make sure that more local authorities who are

:40:30. > :40:38.able to offer accommodation and safe haven for asylum seekers step up to

:40:39. > :40:44.the plate. Why isn't it happening? Are they being resistant or are they

:40:45. > :40:48.just not being tapped for accommodation support? It is a

:40:49. > :40:52.combination of things. Where accommodation is available, the

:40:53. > :40:58.price, not surprisingly there are far fewer asylum seekers in the far

:40:59. > :41:03.south-east of England, in constituencies like my own, although

:41:04. > :41:07.we have taken a number, so there is a cost issue. But I do think there

:41:08. > :41:11.are some local authorities could be doing more and doing better. And

:41:12. > :41:15.there is also the whole issue of accommodating the Syrian asylum

:41:16. > :41:19.seekers, who the government have said we are going to take 20,000

:41:20. > :41:28.over the course of this Parliament. Many people came forward wanting to

:41:29. > :41:33.help out, to offer support for these families. We think the government

:41:34. > :41:39.could be tapping into those offers rather better. That it needs to be

:41:40. > :41:43.sustainable. It is a big ask for people to offer rooms in the houses

:41:44. > :41:47.of people, but if they are working in collaboration with local church

:41:48. > :41:54.groups and other voluntary groups, then perhaps it is doable. It would

:41:55. > :41:57.free up some accommodation that is otherwise not available on the open

:41:58. > :42:02.market. Let us know your thoughts on that.

:42:03. > :42:05.The Home Office told us they work closely with providers to improve

:42:06. > :42:07.property standards over the lifetime of the Compass contract.

:42:08. > :42:11.They went on to say that when a contractor is found to be

:42:12. > :42:14.falling short, they work with them to ensure issues

:42:15. > :42:17.And if those issues are not addressed, they say they can

:42:18. > :42:31.We've contacted the three companies who make up the Compass contract -

:42:32. > :42:38.The company told us that having just over half of 300 doors on its asylum

:42:39. > :42:40.homes in Middlesbrough painted one colour is too high.

:42:41. > :42:42.They also promised to consider the committee's recommendations

:42:43. > :42:45.and ensure that their properties continue to meet the Home Office's

:42:46. > :42:50.Scientists say they have found what they're calling

:42:51. > :42:59.We'll find out what that means for future treatment.

:43:00. > :43:07.Just wanted to bring you some more comments on the parents who spoke to

:43:08. > :43:12.just a short while ago. Their twins Ava and Louie, both with cerebral

:43:13. > :43:16.palsy, Ava has had life changing treatment on the NHS. They have had

:43:17. > :43:21.to fund for Louie to get private treatment in the United States. This

:43:22. > :43:25.tweaks is the very best of luck to you both and your children. Leslie

:43:26. > :43:28.has e-mailed to say my grandson has severe cerebral palsy, his mum and

:43:29. > :43:32.dad have a constant battle to get anything. As if life isn't tough

:43:33. > :43:38.enough. Whatever these children need should be a given. Tweet from Jack,

:43:39. > :43:42.CP is hard work everyone, keep strong, physio is very helpful. I am

:43:43. > :43:47.in a bad patch at the moment. It is my mum who got me walking. Tweet

:43:48. > :43:50.from LJ, this is shocking, even more so that the siblings are twins, they

:43:51. > :43:57.have clearly valued one twin over the other. Tweet here, enjoy your

:43:58. > :44:01.feature on the cerebral palsy twins, as a scientist found it medically

:44:02. > :44:05.and ethically insightful. Just to say the reason that Louie didn't get

:44:06. > :44:09.the treatment on the NHS was because his cerebral palsy is more severe

:44:10. > :44:13.than his sister's, and there was strict criteria for that NHS trial.

:44:14. > :44:16.Thank you so much for getting in touch with us. Keep your thoughts

:44:17. > :44:26.coming in. Carol has the details for the power

:44:27. > :44:32.things looking? Some of us had some snow this morning. Across Leeds,

:44:33. > :44:36.Bradford, around the airport area, 11 centimetres of snow. Parts of

:44:37. > :44:38.Cumbria have had three centimetres, Northern Ireland three centimetres

:44:39. > :44:47.as well. Some beautiful pictures once again sent in by our Weather

:44:48. > :44:56.Watchers. Look at this one. The different across the weather is

:44:57. > :44:59.quite beautiful. But not all of us had snow this morning, look at this.

:45:00. > :45:06.It has been wet, but in Suffolk, blue skies. Again, many of us having

:45:07. > :45:10.blue skies today. So I will get on with it and show you where they are.

:45:11. > :45:13.This morning it is largely in the south we have seen blue skies but we

:45:14. > :45:16.still have some snow and risk of ice today across northern England, the

:45:17. > :45:22.Midlands and Wales. As we go through the day, the snow risk will start to

:45:23. > :45:25.diminish at lower levels. You can see this arc of rain, sleet and snow

:45:26. > :45:29.across Northern Ireland fringing down into Wales as we go through the

:45:30. > :45:32.day full stop at the wind picks up and temperature 's rise, the snow

:45:33. > :45:35.level will also rise. It will be more of a hill feature than

:45:36. > :45:39.low-level feature, though in some of the heavy bursts you could see some

:45:40. > :45:43.of it. Across northern England into the afternoon, still some rain,

:45:44. > :45:48.sleet and snow but as we come south, some showers, bit more clout

:45:49. > :45:51.developing and that front. From East Anglia, Essex, Kent, all the way to

:45:52. > :45:55.East Anglia, a largely dry picture with some sunshine. If you showers

:45:56. > :45:59.scattered, some of those could have a wintry element but mostly the

:46:00. > :46:03.wintry element will be sleet. As we move back into Wales, again the

:46:04. > :46:08.weather front curling down into Wales, producing some rain, sleet

:46:09. > :46:11.and snow. Mostly hill snow. For Northern Ireland, after your snow

:46:12. > :46:14.this morning, three centimetres in County Armagh, it is an improving

:46:15. > :46:19.picture and there will be some sunshine. For Scotland, sunshine and

:46:20. > :46:24.showers, but some of the sunshine -- showers will be wintry at height.

:46:25. > :46:28.Through the afternoon, the weather system slowly slips southwards.

:46:29. > :46:31.Behind it, there will be some clear skies. It will be cold, still

:46:32. > :46:36.someone true showers in the north and east and a risk of ice. If you

:46:37. > :46:39.are travelling tomorrow morning, and that in mind. It will be cold,

:46:40. > :46:44.frosty, a risk of ice. We still have this line of rain, sleet and mostly

:46:45. > :46:49.hill snow, pushing slowly down to the south-east. Behind it, some

:46:50. > :46:53.wintry showers across the north of the country. What you will notice

:46:54. > :46:56.tomorrow is a keen wind coming from the north and north-east. Although

:46:57. > :47:01.you're seeing the mergers between four and eight, it will feel cold

:47:02. > :47:04.because of the wind. As we had on from Saturday into Sunday, the

:47:05. > :47:07.low-pressure producing all of this weather we have at the moment is

:47:08. > :47:12.going to move off into the near continent. Then we have a transient

:47:13. > :47:16.ridge of high pressure building in, settling things down. The winds will

:47:17. > :47:20.be much lighter. Late in the day, the next weather front comes our

:47:21. > :47:25.way, introducing some rain. To put pictures on that, we have remnants

:47:26. > :47:29.of rain clearing away early on. There will be a hang back of cloud

:47:30. > :47:32.in the south-east. On Sunday, a lot of dry weather that there will also

:47:33. > :47:36.be some sunny spells as well. The winds falling lighter, so when feel

:47:37. > :47:40.as cold, even though the damages are no great shakes. Only about two to

:47:41. > :47:42.five in the north, and then later the next front comes in with the

:47:43. > :47:45.rain from the West. Facebook says it'll increase

:47:46. > :48:04.the amount of tax it pays on its profits in Britain,

:48:05. > :48:06.after being accused of avoidance. The company will stop

:48:07. > :48:11.routing the proceeds And critics hit out at the biopic

:48:12. > :48:19.of the singer Nina Simone. They're unhappy that the actresses

:48:20. > :48:34.skin is darkened skin. We'll speak exclusively

:48:35. > :48:36.to Nina's daughter. Facebook is to pay millions

:48:37. > :48:39.of pounds more tax in the UK. The company, which has faced heavy

:48:40. > :48:42.criticism that it was avoiding tax, will stop routing the proceeds

:48:43. > :48:45.of sales for its largest such as Unilever, Tesco

:48:46. > :48:49.and Sainsbury's, through Ireland. The new changes will be put in place

:48:50. > :48:53.in April and Facebook's first higher tax bill will

:48:54. > :48:57.be paid in 2017. Northern Ireland's First Minister

:48:58. > :48:59.Arlene Foster has described an attack on a prison officer

:49:00. > :49:02.in East Belfast this morning The officer is said to be

:49:03. > :49:07.in a serious condition after a device exploded under

:49:08. > :49:09.a vehicle in the British Scientists have made

:49:10. > :49:15.a discovery which they hope could improve the way

:49:16. > :49:17.cancer is treated. Researchers have identified proteins

:49:18. > :49:19.in tumour cells which allow the immune system to

:49:20. > :49:23.target the disease. They believe they'll be able

:49:24. > :49:27.to develop tailored treatments. The Work and Pensions Secretary,

:49:28. > :49:29.Ian Duncan-Smith says the Government could suffer lasting damage

:49:30. > :49:32.from the EU referendum. He says those campaigning to stay

:49:33. > :49:37.in the EU are making "desperate and unsubstantiated" claims and risk

:49:38. > :49:41.harming their integrity. The North Korean leader,

:49:42. > :49:44.Kim Jong-un, has ordered his military to be ready to fire

:49:45. > :49:46.the country's nuclear weapons The state news agency in Pyongyang

:49:47. > :49:51.said he had also directed that North Korea's be capable

:49:52. > :49:54.of launching a pre-emptive strike. The remarks follow new United

:49:55. > :49:57.Nations sanctions in response to a nuclear test and rocket launch

:49:58. > :50:02.in January. Scientists in America believe

:50:03. > :50:05.an advanced vaccine for the zika virus could be ready for human

:50:06. > :50:09.trials by August or September. The work on a Zika drug

:50:10. > :50:13.is focused on pregnant women. It's thought the virus,

:50:14. > :50:14.spread by mosquitoes, is linked to babies being born

:50:15. > :50:17.with abnormally small heads The north of England has been

:50:18. > :50:23.blanketed with snow, with as much as 10 centimetres

:50:24. > :50:25.reported on high ground. Schools have been closed

:50:26. > :50:28.and flights have been delayed. The Met Office is warning motorists

:50:29. > :50:30.to allow extra time for journeys because of icy conditions

:50:31. > :50:34.on the roads. Let's catch up with

:50:35. > :50:44.all the sport now. Catherine is inside with all the

:50:45. > :50:56.snow in Salford. We have come outside to the by the

:50:57. > :51:03.side battle that is taking place here. It is Alan Shearer against

:51:04. > :51:07.Robbie Savage. They are playing 57 hours by five aside football to

:51:08. > :51:11.raise money for sport relief. That is the number of hours a Premier

:51:12. > :51:15.League team plays during the course of the season. Conditions are

:51:16. > :51:19.treacherous. Not conditions that Alan Shearer or Robbie Savage will

:51:20. > :51:28.be used to be playing football in. Adam -- al Shearer just captaining

:51:29. > :51:33.the match will stop he is doing a 12 hour stint by the book. Robbie

:51:34. > :51:38.Savage has already done his 12 hours today he will be starting a game

:51:39. > :51:46.later on. It is this ongoing marathon, all to raise money.

:51:47. > :51:51.Relief. The conditions are very cold and very slippery underfoot. --

:51:52. > :51:56.raise money for sport relief. It has not all been snow and cold. Let's

:51:57. > :52:03.have a look at the highlights over the next 20 -- the last 24 hours.

:52:04. > :52:18.A chance. Robbie Savage has the first goal. Alan Shearer! 2-2. His

:52:19. > :52:25.first goal to bring the side level. He hits it. There you go. How would

:52:26. > :52:32.he himself have described that? I suspect, a stunner. They are back in

:52:33. > :52:41.front. Scoring with the left boot this time put up that is what we are

:52:42. > :52:46.more accustomed to see. That was literally manhandled. The goal does

:52:47. > :53:00.not stand. He is being sent off. A second yellow card. He has sent him

:53:01. > :53:05.off. A hard task master. Alan Shearer on the ball behind me. He

:53:06. > :53:16.has just briefly stopped for a sip of warm coffee. It is 273 goals

:53:17. > :53:18.compared with 242 or Robbie Savage. You can watch it live on the red

:53:19. > :53:36.button. Laura Trott, what a marvellous

:53:37. > :53:41.performance. She won the scratch race last night. She said she was

:53:42. > :53:45.not feeling that good. Watch the chase down of the pack. Afterward

:53:46. > :53:51.she said she could not believe she had done it.

:53:52. > :53:57.I am so happy. I was not feeling that good. I'd dug in a little bit

:53:58. > :54:03.and thought I would let everyone else work. When the Canadian went, I

:54:04. > :54:08.thought, I will have to chase. It worked out perfectly. When I started

:54:09. > :54:15.to go, I thought this is early, but then it worked. I am so happy.

:54:16. > :54:18.That was a real lift for the GB squad, after Sir Bradley Wiggins

:54:19. > :54:21.and the men's team pursuit foursome had gold snatched away from them

:54:22. > :54:28.by Australia but he is absolutely convinced they'll come good in Rio.

:54:29. > :54:36.I would put my house on it. I would say we will win in Rio. I am

:54:37. > :54:43.confident. I think we well. I just think we will. We have come so far.

:54:44. > :54:47.Individually, we all look at our efforts individually. Wearing was a

:54:48. > :54:51.Christmas compared to here, we have come on leaps and bounds. We are

:54:52. > :55:02.into the summer and we could move on again for Rio. Brilliant staff from

:55:03. > :55:08.the cyclists and from all the people here with the football.

:55:09. > :55:13.We lost you a bit but you are going to play at 11:15am. We will look at

:55:14. > :55:17.and see how you get on. Thank you for joining us this

:55:18. > :55:20.morning, welcome to the programme if you've just joined us,

:55:21. > :55:38.we're on BBC 2 and the BBC Earlier we spoke to Martin S. An

:55:39. > :55:42.e-mail says, I have suffered mental health issues. It is definitely

:55:43. > :55:48.linked to debt. If I felt damn, I would always spend money. I am on

:55:49. > :55:54.the other side now after six years of struggling. I can recognise when

:55:55. > :55:58.I had down days, the urge to spend. I am stronger now to control it but

:55:59. > :56:03.I could not have done that at that point in my life when I felt so low.

:56:04. > :56:09.Ian has said, a lot of unscrupulous lenders around. Tim has tweeted to

:56:10. > :56:13.say, I know someone who suffered mental illness and lost everything

:56:14. > :56:23.due to massive credit card reliance. Really awful. You can get in touch

:56:24. > :56:26.in the usual ways. Wherever you are, you can watch the programme online

:56:27. > :56:32.or via the app. Let's get more on the news

:56:33. > :56:35.that Facebook is to pay millions of pounds

:56:36. > :56:37.more in tax in the UK. Our economics editor

:56:38. > :56:45.Kamal Ahmed is here. Not in the same way as Google has

:56:46. > :56:49.done but different, isn't it? It is about the future and not the past.

:56:50. > :56:54.There was a lot of controversy about Google. They announced a ?130

:56:55. > :56:59.million tax settlement for taxes they were going to pay in the past

:57:00. > :57:04.or had not paid in the past. This is based that restructuring itself was

:57:05. > :57:08.not all these beak, global online companies have faced huge

:57:09. > :57:12.controversies. They are massively profitable and incredibly successful

:57:13. > :57:21.in the UK. They paid tiny amounts of tax. The Facebook tax bill in 2014

:57:22. > :57:24.is ?4300 full stop that is less tax than most people pay on their

:57:25. > :57:27.income. Very controversial. We have revealed this morning that Facebook

:57:28. > :57:32.will change the way it structures itself. How it works at the moment

:57:33. > :57:38.is it books those sales through Ireland and Ireland has a lower tax

:57:39. > :57:43.rates than the UK. It will move the large majority of the advertising

:57:44. > :57:49.business to London, book it, account for it in London. That changes how

:57:50. > :57:53.it is taxed in London. That means it will pay corporation tax on far more

:57:54. > :58:00.of the profits it actually makes in the country. It hopes of course that

:58:01. > :58:03.it will put behind it some of the controversy that has been created

:58:04. > :58:08.over the past few years about all of this. It was fearful about the

:58:09. > :58:12.diverted profits tax, the new tax announced by the governor to few

:58:13. > :58:16.years ago which meant any business which was found to have contrived

:58:17. > :58:20.structures, structures deliver the put in place to avoid tax, could

:58:21. > :58:29.face higher taxes here. -- deliberately put in place. Do you

:58:30. > :58:32.expect other companies to follow suit? Amazon has already said it

:58:33. > :58:38.will look at its structures and is reading them put up Google has yet

:58:39. > :58:42.to change its structures. Now Facebook has moved to do this, the

:58:43. > :58:44.other big, multinational companies will fill and ever increasing

:58:45. > :58:52.pressure. Thank you. Sunderland Football Club is under

:58:53. > :58:55.mounting pressure to explain why Adam Johnson was allowed to continue

:58:56. > :58:58.to play despite knowing he had The striker was found guilty

:58:59. > :59:02.on wednesday of one count of sexual After he was charged last April

:59:03. > :59:06.he made 28 club appearances, collecting 60 thousand

:59:07. > :59:07.pounds a week. He was sacked after admitting

:59:08. > :59:10.to some of the charges against him Detective Inspector Aelfwynn

:59:11. > :59:28.Sampson from Durham police has told the BBC that she met

:59:29. > :59:31.the club's executives on the day Johnson was first arrested and gave

:59:32. > :59:34.them details of the case. Detective Inspector,

:59:35. > :59:37.there was an initial first meeting with Sunderland

:59:38. > :59:39.football club which you attended and you spoke to Margaret

:59:40. > :59:41.Byrne and some other people. March 2nd, the day Adam Johnson

:59:42. > :59:45.was actually arrested. At that time I met with

:59:46. > :59:48.Margaret Byrne from the club and a couple

:59:49. > :59:49.of other people, And that time we

:59:50. > :59:52.disclosed in very broad terms that we had an allegation made

:59:53. > :59:55.against Adam Johnson At that point he was

:59:56. > :59:59.under arrest for sexual activity with a child

:00:00. > :00:02.and that was what was disclosed They were given a little bit more

:00:03. > :00:06.detail in terms of that he had met the girl and sexual activity had

:00:07. > :00:09.taken place when they had met been messages exchanged

:00:10. > :00:11.between the two. But at that point Mr Johnson had

:00:12. > :00:14.not been interviewed, so there was nothing

:00:15. > :00:16.further disclosed at At the centre of this

:00:17. > :00:19.we have a 15-year-old girl who at the time was an avid

:00:20. > :00:22.Sunderland fan and a massive fan She described him as her idol,

:00:23. > :00:26.she wants to know why he was allowed Do you think there are

:00:27. > :00:30.still questions that need The club have issued a statement

:00:31. > :00:35.and made their position very clear, but there are a number

:00:36. > :00:37.of fans including our 15-year-old victim,

:00:38. > :00:38.who want further answers. About why he was allowed

:00:39. > :00:41.to go on the pitch? So far Sunderland have only issued

:00:42. > :00:45.one statement about Adam Johnson It was left to manager Sam Allardyce

:00:46. > :00:48.to face questions from He said it came as a massive

:00:49. > :00:52.shock when Johnson. Sunderland say they would have

:00:53. > :00:58.sacked Johnson immediately had club officials known he intended to plead

:00:59. > :01:16.guilty to two charges. I was aware of for his plea of all

:01:17. > :01:19.charges to be not guilty. On that basis, he trained and played for the

:01:20. > :01:28.team if and when I selected him, and I think that just before the trial

:01:29. > :01:33.started to hear that he had pleaded guilty was a massive shock to

:01:34. > :01:42.everybody at the football club, which the club took swift and direct

:01:43. > :01:46.action to dismiss him immediately. So everybody in our dressing room,

:01:47. > :01:53.and certainly me on what little we knew was shocked from that. Sam

:01:54. > :01:58.Allardyce was. Let's speak to BBC radio Newcastle reporter Peter

:01:59. > :02:03.Harris. What have the club said? The key point here is what the club know

:02:04. > :02:08.when they took that decision to lift the suspension on Adam Johnson? I

:02:09. > :02:11.have a copy of the club's statement that was put out immediately after

:02:12. > :02:15.the verdict. The gist of what it says is that Johnson kept telling us

:02:16. > :02:18.he was not guilty, that he would deny the allegations or the way

:02:19. > :02:23.along the line. The problem for the club is the suggestion that they

:02:24. > :02:29.knew specifics. So further to what the police officer has just told us

:02:30. > :02:32.there, it was suggested in "At Bradford Crown Court that Johnson

:02:33. > :02:39.admitted to the club that he had kissed the underage girl, but the

:02:40. > :02:44.Chief Executive Margaret Byrne had side of the WhatsApp messages

:02:45. > :02:47.between Johnson and the girl, -- had site, and the club had site of the

:02:48. > :02:51.police interviews that Johnson did with them, that is why this question

:02:52. > :02:55.keeps coming back, as to what was the club thinking? Was it a wise

:02:56. > :02:59.decision, was it the right decision to lift the suspension on Johnson,

:03:00. > :03:08.and allow him to go back out on the pitch. You were on court for the

:03:09. > :03:12.trial, are you getting anywhere? Not yet know. As you have heard from Sam

:03:13. > :03:15.Allardyce, he has very little to do with it in many ways. He did not

:03:16. > :03:19.arrive at the club until six months after this, so that we need from the

:03:20. > :03:25.club's answers to those specific questions: did you know that he had

:03:26. > :03:31.kissed the underage child, a fan, who supports the club. Did you know,

:03:32. > :03:35.have you seen the WhatsApp messages, those are the keys specific that we

:03:36. > :03:40.need answers to, in helping the fans and everybody else understand what

:03:41. > :03:45.were they thinking of them when they lifted the suspension and allowed

:03:46. > :03:52.this guide to wear the red and white shirt every Saturday afternoon. How

:03:53. > :03:55.our fans reacting? Obviously it is a difficult one, because to many

:03:56. > :03:59.people the club represents the city and there are those who feel angry

:04:00. > :04:07.that they have been there, during this guy on, that some of the

:04:08. > :04:11.specifics were known by the club about the kissing, the messages.

:04:12. > :04:16.Let's not forget the girl, but we can say what the police officer has

:04:17. > :04:19.just said, she is a massive Sunderland fan, and her statement

:04:20. > :04:24.was she has had lots of abuse online, on social media, and how

:04:25. > :04:28.much harder was it for her then when she felt people weren't believing

:04:29. > :04:32.her that Adam Johnson is out there on the pitch at the Stadium Of

:04:33. > :04:38.Light, at the club she loves, and is being treated almost as if nothing

:04:39. > :04:42.has happened. Think you very much, Peter.

:04:43. > :04:46.We've been hearing all week from an activist in Syria

:04:47. > :04:48.who is risking his safety to tell the world what life

:04:49. > :04:49.inside the so-called Islamic State-controlled

:04:50. > :05:03.Today we will have his final video diary. First, though,

:05:04. > :05:06.British scientists say they've discovered a way to guide the immune

:05:07. > :05:08.system to kill cancers, in what's been described

:05:09. > :05:10.as an exciting advance in our understanding of the disease.

:05:11. > :05:13.Writing in the journal, Science, the team suggest that their method

:05:14. > :05:15.could be used to find unique features within a cancer tumour,

:05:16. > :05:18.helping the body's own defences to target the diseased cells.

:05:19. > :05:20.The study is funded by Cancer Research UK -

:05:21. > :05:26.with me is Doctor Alan Worsley, their Science Information Officer.

:05:27. > :05:32.we often hear developments described as breakthroughs, how significant do

:05:33. > :05:40.you think this is? What this research really does is find a way

:05:41. > :05:44.to put markers on these things that make cancer cells unique from

:05:45. > :05:48.healthy cells. Demi can use this to guide these treatments, get it to

:05:49. > :05:53.fight cancer for us. By using these targets and paying attention to the

:05:54. > :05:58.immune system, can hopefully make these kind of treatment is much more

:05:59. > :06:03.effective. So if it works it could be a really straightforward way of

:06:04. > :06:07.treating cancer? At the moment, still lab research, but the

:06:08. > :06:12.treatments we have got, we have been developing, have already been used.

:06:13. > :06:16.So some of the possible treatments we have thought about, vaccine work,

:06:17. > :06:20.taking these cancer killing cells of the body out, expanding them and

:06:21. > :06:24.putting them back into the patient. All of these different treatments

:06:25. > :06:27.could be somehow guided by this kind of discovery. So give us the best

:06:28. > :06:35.case scenario, in two years' time a vaccine? Two years' time, hopefully

:06:36. > :06:38.we can try clinical trials. We need to take samples and look at them and

:06:39. > :06:42.apply quite a bit of analysis to find out exactly what markers are

:06:43. > :06:48.importantly on every single cancer cell and not on healthy cells. So

:06:49. > :06:51.what they have found is that we can tell the immune system is targeting

:06:52. > :06:54.these treatments, now we need to know what they are and how to give

:06:55. > :06:58.the immune system a boost. If it worked in the way you are hoping,

:06:59. > :07:03.would it be a vaccine? Somebody would just have that and the body

:07:04. > :07:07.would be left to its own devices? It will depend on every patient, every

:07:08. > :07:11.individual's cancer is unique, evolves and changes in its own way,

:07:12. > :07:16.so this is really about ultimately personalised immune treatment. We

:07:17. > :07:18.need to do a lot of work to find out how well it might work but what we

:07:19. > :07:23.have really been missing for years and years is a way to guide the

:07:24. > :07:28.systems. We have been trying vaccines for years, but without much

:07:29. > :07:31.success. Some encouraging results, but what we have really been lacking

:07:32. > :07:36.is a targeting system, and this might be the road map to get as

:07:37. > :07:42.that. Sounds great, potentially. Let's hope so. You will probably

:07:43. > :07:47.know Victoria is being treated for breast cancer, and we have been

:07:48. > :07:53.following her treatment through a series of video diaries. We will

:07:54. > :08:01.have a new diary from her on Monday's programme.

:08:02. > :08:04.The so-called Islamic State group has used Raqqa in eastern Syria

:08:05. > :08:08.It tightly controls communications and who can enter and leave meaning

:08:09. > :08:10.information about what is happening there is hard to verify.

:08:11. > :08:12.There are groups of activists who smuggle out information

:08:13. > :08:16.Over the past few months one of those activists from Al-Sharqiya

:08:17. > :08:19.24 has been keeping a diary for Radio 4's Today programme

:08:20. > :08:20.which we've been broadcasting all week .

:08:21. > :08:25.We've asked an actor to voice the words and changed some details

:08:26. > :08:39.The sun is out for the first time in days.

:08:40. > :08:41.The brighter weather makes me feel optimistic.

:08:42. > :08:43.I am able to push away gloomy thoughts for the first

:08:44. > :08:49.But the goods in our shop are getting dusty.

:08:50. > :08:53.The cost of getting them here through countless

:08:54. > :08:55.regime and Daesh checkpoints has made them expensive.

:08:56. > :08:58.We sell less in two months under Daesh then we did

:08:59. > :09:06.And that is not just due to soaring prices.

:09:07. > :09:09.Many people just don't go out on the streetS any more.

:09:10. > :09:10.To make matters worse, Daesh recently ordered

:09:11. > :09:12.all shopkeepers to limit their mark-up

:09:13. > :09:15.on goods to 25%, and they charge us tax on top of that.

:09:16. > :09:18.Then there's the cost of cleaning, electricity, when we can get it.

:09:19. > :09:30.While I worry, the mother of a friend I met through the group

:09:31. > :09:36.He was with us from the start of the revolution but he gave up

:09:37. > :09:38.all activities when Daesh took over, got

:09:39. > :09:43.He did not realise that they would still come

:09:44. > :09:50.Daesh knew of his previous involvement with the revolution

:09:51. > :09:54.His mother looks worried and in deep despair.

:09:55. > :09:58.She tells me they have arrested her son in a raid

:09:59. > :10:02.I try to calm her down, saying they are probably only

:10:03. > :10:04.questioning him, like they did plenty of times

:10:05. > :10:09.But she takes no comfort, and tells me to leave the city

:10:10. > :10:17.I walk around the city with a broken soul.

:10:18. > :10:18.Looking at all other broken souls passing by.

:10:19. > :10:21.Each pair of eyes that passes tells a different story.

:10:22. > :10:30.Around noon, I'm arranging goods on the shelves of my shop

:10:31. > :10:40.He looks a little shocked and advises me not to take

:10:41. > :10:44.He says there is something he doesn't

:10:45. > :10:47.want me to see, but he doesn't say what.

:10:48. > :10:51.In the end, curiosity gets the better of me.

:10:52. > :10:55.In front of my friend's house, I see a man with his head cut off.

:10:56. > :10:59.A sign above his head reads, "A spy, a collaborator that worked

:11:00. > :11:10.I'm in such a state that I can't go home.

:11:11. > :11:12.I don't want my mother to see me like this.

:11:13. > :11:16.Leave his butchered body in front of his

:11:17. > :11:20.mother's house, in front of his family?

:11:21. > :11:22.I've decided I can't take this any more.

:11:23. > :11:29.They are carrying out raids on the houses of anyone who ever had

:11:30. > :11:32.anything to do with the revolution, even if it was many

:11:33. > :11:40.I have distanced myself from anyone I used to go to protests with.

:11:41. > :11:42.I did not want them suspecting me or them.

:11:43. > :11:51.Let's talk now to BBC Diplomatic correspondent Paul Adams

:11:52. > :11:53.and Neil Sammonds Amnesty's Syria Researcher -

:11:54. > :12:00.and from the Middle East Ibrahim Hamidi, Syria editor of the Arab

:12:01. > :12:09.You have been listening to the video diaries, what do you think? I really

:12:10. > :12:15.like them, I have watched and heard all of them come I think they are

:12:16. > :12:20.quite beautifully crafted, poetic, compelling tales of life and death

:12:21. > :12:23.inside the totalitarian regiment of the so-called Islamic state. The

:12:24. > :12:25.fear which comes across in all of them, never quite knowing when you

:12:26. > :12:29.all your loved ones of your neighbours might get picked up for

:12:30. > :12:34.any infringement of dress code, not praying at the right time, not going

:12:35. > :12:37.to an education class, let alone potential media activities and so

:12:38. > :12:43.on, and the horrific punishments which comeback. Whether it is

:12:44. > :12:48.stoning, being thrown off a building for alleged homosexual behaviour and

:12:49. > :12:52.so on. It is so harsh. There are a few things that I think, there is

:12:53. > :12:55.only so much you can say in five pieces, and I do think they are

:12:56. > :12:58.wonderful in all the things they cover. Maybe if there could be a

:12:59. > :13:02.prequel as well, it would be quite nice to see what life was like at

:13:03. > :13:06.the time of the change, when there was such hope for a short period of

:13:07. > :13:16.time, when Rocca became the first provincial capital to be taken over

:13:17. > :13:19.by opposition armed groups -- Raqqa. As it points out quite beautifully,

:13:20. > :13:24.the people were not known to the locals who came in. It didn't grow

:13:25. > :13:27.from the situation in Syria, it came from outside. On that, you have

:13:28. > :13:34.effectively seen that through the eyes of a close friend, who went to

:13:35. > :13:38.Raqqa when the regime lost control of Raqqa, but then subsequently went

:13:39. > :13:44.IS went in, he disappeared. Tell us what happened? He is or he was a

:13:45. > :13:50.wonderful Syrian human rights lawyer. I first met him in 2006,

:13:51. > :13:53.when Amnesty was allowed into the country. There was a hint of a

:13:54. > :13:59.glimmer of hope when Bashar al-Assad had taken power from his father.

:14:00. > :14:02.Abdullah had worked for many years defending political prisoners,

:14:03. > :14:07.mostly for free. He was a pious man, as is his wife and children. He had

:14:08. > :14:13.been in prison five times under Al Asad. The last time I was on holiday

:14:14. > :14:20.at the time, I scoped with him, -- I was on Skype with him. He became

:14:21. > :14:28.after the opposition armed group, Islamist leaning took over. He

:14:29. > :14:34.became one of the leading figures of the peaceful figures, and then one

:14:35. > :14:38.evening, after work, he was abducted by what everyone believes was the

:14:39. > :14:44.Islamic State. Islamic State members took over the family home. His keys,

:14:45. > :14:49.the car was taken over by Islamic State and so on. The family fled.

:14:50. > :14:55.They are now in southern Turkey. They have been trying to reach,

:14:56. > :14:58.trying to get resettlement to Europe or the US, but that has been held

:14:59. > :15:02.back by a number of processes. They have been waiting for about two and

:15:03. > :15:05.a half years now and there has been no word at all of him. There have

:15:06. > :15:09.been occasional rumours that maybe he was seen at a detention centre,

:15:10. > :15:13.but nothing clear. We know how appalling the human rights offences

:15:14. > :15:18.are by Islamic State, so many people when they are detained are tortured

:15:19. > :15:23.severely and many are killed. How do you read the situation in Syria, and

:15:24. > :15:30.how it unfolds, because IS seems to have a very tight grip on areas like

:15:31. > :15:38.Raqqa and other areas like that? And obviously Asad is still in control,

:15:39. > :15:39.and the opposition is quite divided. Can you see anything happening to

:15:40. > :15:52.change that dynamic any time soon? Not a great deal. The year ago, it

:15:53. > :15:57.was a time many were saying because the opposition was making serious

:15:58. > :16:03.advances across the country, the regime was losing ground in a lot of

:16:04. > :16:09.areas. I think it was becoming inevitable that they were going to

:16:10. > :16:13.have to accept a transitional period. The Russian intervention at

:16:14. > :16:20.the end of September has been a massive game changer. The opposition

:16:21. > :16:25.groups have been terribly squeezed and overwhelmingly targeted by

:16:26. > :16:28.Syrian forces. All the diplomatic cards were really with the

:16:29. > :16:38.Government and with Russia at the moment. Whether they will use that

:16:39. > :16:43.position of power is one option. There are still a few variables.

:16:44. > :16:52.What will happen to those areas now? Were they except that we go back to

:16:53. > :16:57.living under President Assad? -- will they accept? At the same time,

:16:58. > :17:02.you have IS. Despite being hit by a multiplicity of nations, for a

:17:03. > :17:11.couple of years in Iraq, year and a half in Syria. Large parts of

:17:12. > :17:15.Aleppo, which have not been attacked by the regime of Russia to any

:17:16. > :17:19.significant degree. They look as though they will be able to

:17:20. > :17:24.withstand this a lot longer. An important factor is the Kurdish

:17:25. > :17:32.control in the north. I merrily Kurdish areas have stayed under

:17:33. > :17:36.control of the P Y D. -- primarily. They are historically pro-democracy

:17:37. > :17:40.secularists but with a nationalist agenda. They maintain almost

:17:41. > :17:44.complete control over the north of the country now. They coalesced to

:17:45. > :17:49.an extent with the regime beforehand and they have been given certain

:17:50. > :17:53.cover by initially the regime, then by the US coalition and its attacks

:17:54. > :17:57.on Islamic State and now by Russia as well. They have a very

:17:58. > :18:03.interesting dynamic and it is hard to see how they pull out of the

:18:04. > :18:07.equation. They may be pushing for a primarily Kurdish state.

:18:08. > :18:11.A leading fertility lawyer has told this programme the UK law

:18:12. > :18:44.on surrogacy needs to be changed to make it less complicated.

:18:45. > :18:46.Criticism over the biopic of the singer Nina Simone.

:18:47. > :18:48.Some are unhappy at the actress wearing an afro wig

:18:49. > :18:50.We'll speak exclusively to Nina's daughter.

:18:51. > :18:55.Facebook is set to pay millions of pounds more in tax in the UK

:18:56. > :18:57.after a major overhaul of its tax structure.

:18:58. > :18:59.After heavy criticism that it was avoiding tax,

:19:00. > :19:01.profits from the majority of Facebook's advertising revenue

:19:02. > :19:03.initiated in Britain will now be taxed in the UK.

:19:04. > :19:06.It will no longer route sales through Ireland for its largest

:19:07. > :19:10.A record 1.25 million asylum seekers arrived in the EU in 2015,

:19:11. > :19:12.more than double the figure from the previous year.

:19:13. > :19:14.Syrians were the largest group at nearly 363,000,

:19:15. > :19:17.followed by 178,000 Afghans and 121,000 Iraqis.

:19:18. > :19:19.The Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers has condemned

:19:20. > :19:22.what she called a "vicious attack on a prison officer in East

:19:23. > :19:26.The officer is said to be in a serious condition

:19:27. > :19:28.after a device exploded under a vehicle in the Woodstock Road

:19:29. > :19:34.British scientists believe they have discovered a way to "steer"

:19:35. > :19:41.Researchers say they've developed a way of finding unique markings

:19:42. > :19:43.within a tumour - its "Achilles heel" -

:19:44. > :19:47.allowing the body to target the disease.

:19:48. > :19:49.Iain Duncan Smith says the "spin and smear" tactics being used

:19:50. > :19:52.by the campaign to stay in the EU risk long-term damage

:19:53. > :19:57.The EU exit campaigner has accused the other side -

:19:58. > :19:59.backed by most of his cabinet colleagues -

:20:00. > :20:04.of making "desperate and unsubstantiated" claims.

:20:05. > :20:07.Scientists in America believe an advanced vaccine for the zika

:20:08. > :20:10.virus could be ready for human trials by August or September.

:20:11. > :20:13.The work on a Zika drug is focused on pregnant women.

:20:14. > :20:15.It's thought the virus, spread by mosquitoes,

:20:16. > :20:19.is linked to babies being born with abnormally small heads

:20:20. > :20:24.Heavy snow is affecting travel in many areas across northern

:20:25. > :20:28.Schools have been closed and flights have been delayed.

:20:29. > :20:31.The Met Office has issued snow and ice warnings with more snow

:20:32. > :20:52.Laura Trott looks in unbeatable form as Rio draws closer -

:20:53. > :20:55.she's won a sixth world title at the Track Cycling World

:20:56. > :20:58.Already a double Olympic champion, Trott won gold for Great Britain

:20:59. > :21:17.Britain begin the defence of their Davis Cup title today.

:21:18. > :21:18.They're in Birmingham to take on Japan.

:21:19. > :21:21.Andy Murray gets things underway against Taro Daniel -

:21:22. > :21:25.it'll be his first competitve match since he became a father.

:21:26. > :21:27.England's women are playing in an international friendly

:21:28. > :21:29.tournament in Florida but they lost their opening match

:21:30. > :21:32.to the United States, last year's World Cup winners -

:21:33. > :21:38.England next play Germany on Sunday.

:21:39. > :21:46.Let's go back out into the snow and the side battle between Alan Shearer

:21:47. > :21:55.and Robbie Savage. Let's have a look at the goals. 280-246. Alan Shearer

:21:56. > :22:00.winning the battle for now. We will be back in the snow a little bit

:22:01. > :22:04.later. I trust you will be brilliant. We will watch later.

:22:05. > :22:07.A leading fertility lawyer has told this programme the UK law

:22:08. > :22:10.on surrogacy needs to be changed to make it less complicated.

:22:11. > :22:12.There are worries that too many people are confused

:22:13. > :22:14.and are going abroad despite some countries banning foreigners

:22:15. > :22:20.Well surrogacy is legal as long as: No money is paid to the surrogate

:22:21. > :22:22.other than to cover "reasonable legal expenses" -

:22:23. > :22:24.things like medical expenses, maternity clothes and a loss

:22:25. > :22:28.It is however a criminal offence to advertise that you are looking

:22:29. > :22:30.for a surrogate or willing to act as a surrogate.

:22:31. > :22:33.And it is also an offence to broker a surrogate arrangement

:22:34. > :22:39.So, let's talk now to Shereen Jivraj and Jane Newman, who both

:22:40. > :22:42.had their babies via a surrogate - Rachael Coleman, who acted

:22:43. > :22:45.as a surrogate and Anne-Marie Hutchinson, a specialist family

:22:46. > :22:59.Thank you for coming in to talk about this. Just tell us, you do

:23:00. > :23:04.want the law to be changed. Why do you think it is necessary? What we

:23:05. > :23:10.need is an overhaul of the law. What has happened is the law has become

:23:11. > :23:15.amended over the years to fit new situations. It was not specifically

:23:16. > :23:18.designed for the number of surrogacy arrangements which, for example, are

:23:19. > :23:22.now happening. There is a lot of confusion and a lot of confusion

:23:23. > :23:28.within the public. You said it is illegal to pay anything over and

:23:29. > :23:33.above unreasonable expenses. It is not illegal between a surrogate and

:23:34. > :23:39.a commissioning parent. What is legal? There is a criminal law, a

:23:40. > :23:45.surrogacy arrangements act, which banned making a profit out of the

:23:46. > :23:51.surrogacy arrangement. That clause captures many things. It would catch

:23:52. > :23:54.a lawyer giving legal advice about a specific surrogacy arrangement. Then

:23:55. > :23:59.the civil law is the law which grants parenthood to the

:24:00. > :24:02.commissioning parents. That is a civil law family law process. Within

:24:03. > :24:06.that there is a reference to payments made to the surrogate. That

:24:07. > :24:11.is where the confusion arises in the public mind. It is not illegal to

:24:12. > :24:18.make compensatory payments to a surrogate. It is very confusing. Do

:24:19. > :24:22.people get really tripped up? Have you come across any horror stories?

:24:23. > :24:26.There are some significant horror stories. Mostly because people enter

:24:27. > :24:33.into the arrangements without taking proper advice and doing proper

:24:34. > :24:37.research. Give some examples then? People making arrangements overseas

:24:38. > :24:40.where they have not looked into the immigration process, for example,

:24:41. > :24:45.and being trapped in a country where they cannot leave the country with

:24:46. > :24:51.their children. They have not sorted out a child's nationality. Very

:24:52. > :24:56.rarely does a surrogate, of full gestation or surrogate, change her

:24:57. > :25:01.mind. That is a fear. You often see in the press. It is very rare. There

:25:02. > :25:04.are situations where that may arise if there is a dispute between the

:25:05. > :25:09.commissioning parents and the surrogate. Again, a surrogacy

:25:10. > :25:13.contract in this country is not enforceable. Until you have the

:25:14. > :25:18.child, the courts cannot deal with anything until that child is

:25:19. > :25:30.actually born. Would you like to see that changed? We need a framework, a

:25:31. > :25:32.proper, regulated framework that protects everyone and provides a

:25:33. > :25:34.good practice, and allows the general public to understand what

:25:35. > :25:39.surrogacy is and how it operates. Let's speak to some of the month.

:25:40. > :25:44.You found the process here to confusing. What are the issues? It

:25:45. > :25:50.is the issues we have already discussed. Summer could change their

:25:51. > :25:53.mind. We did not know how we stood as commissioning parents. Our main

:25:54. > :25:58.interest was the protection of not only us but the child we wanted to

:25:59. > :26:03.have. We did not want that to be repercussions when he was older. By

:26:04. > :26:06.going abroad without is all very clear-cut in the sense we knew where

:26:07. > :26:12.we stood, where the surrogate stood, she knew where she stood and the

:26:13. > :26:15.doctors knew where everyone stood. There is much cleaner than doing it

:26:16. > :26:19.in this country. How did it work for you question right you went to

:26:20. > :26:23.India, didn't you? And Marie was talking about potential issues that

:26:24. > :26:28.can arise from doing surrogacy abroad. Did you have any issues? We

:26:29. > :26:34.were very lucky. The contract we signed and the surrogate side was a

:26:35. > :26:37.well drafted. She was given a translation and she was explained

:26:38. > :26:41.and the lawyer sat with her and explain exactly what the contract

:26:42. > :26:45.meant we were able to speak to her, so we were very comfortable on both

:26:46. > :26:49.sides that we understood she would carry the child. It would be our

:26:50. > :26:53.child and we would bring the child back to the UK. The issues for us

:26:54. > :26:58.arose when the child was born. We tried to get a passport to bring him

:26:59. > :27:04.back. That is what took the most time, I think. There is a picture of

:27:05. > :27:08.you and your child. Tell us, Jane, you had twins by a surrogate in this

:27:09. > :27:16.country. How did you find the process? My process was, we had a

:27:17. > :27:20.very happy ending. The whole process was, obviously it was difficult

:27:21. > :27:23.going through the process. We did not have any complications along the

:27:24. > :27:27.way. We had a really good relationship with our surrogate. We

:27:28. > :27:33.had counselling. We build a really good trust under bond with her.

:27:34. > :27:38.Where did you find your surrogate? They're all sorts of issues around

:27:39. > :27:44.that? They are not allowed to advertise. We were introduced by a

:27:45. > :27:51.private Facebook group. We connected. We did not have any

:27:52. > :27:56.complications. Did you have any concerns about contractual issues

:27:57. > :28:00.and potential risks down the line? Having counselling really cemented

:28:01. > :28:05.the bond between us. We spoke about that. We spoke about... Our

:28:06. > :28:09.surrogate was worried we would not want to keep the baby at the end as

:28:10. > :28:15.we might have been with her wanting to keep it. When we heard her say

:28:16. > :28:21.that, we were like, actually, do you know what? We were on the same page.

:28:22. > :28:26.Tell us more about how the counselling work and how it came

:28:27. > :28:32.about? It was myself and my husband and her and her partner. We met

:28:33. > :28:37.several times. It makes absolute sense. Is it not standard? We do not

:28:38. > :28:43.have the regulatory framework in this country. We do have a number of

:28:44. > :28:47.not good not for profit groups which have set out best practice and

:28:48. > :28:50.provide counselling. It is essential if one is on the same page and fully

:28:51. > :28:56.understands what they are entering into what the commitments are. As

:28:57. > :29:01.you say, for many surrogate mothers, the biggest concern is, the couple

:29:02. > :29:09.will walk away and leave them with a child. You have heard the horror

:29:10. > :29:14.story about the twin in Thailand that was left by the Australian

:29:15. > :29:18.couple. You have acted as a surrogate mother. What issues have

:29:19. > :29:25.come into play? It was a wonderful experience from start to finish. I

:29:26. > :29:33.met my intended parents through Surrogacy UK, and the ethos is

:29:34. > :29:40.friendship first. When I met my intended parents, we became so close

:29:41. > :29:46.and we formed a bond, which we still have now. They are like my family

:29:47. > :29:52.now. I gave birth to their son in May 2000 and 14. You are like

:29:53. > :29:55.family. I speak to her every day. We are really close. What made you

:29:56. > :30:00.decide in the first place to actually become a surrogate mum? I

:30:01. > :30:05.do not know. I wanted to help someone, help someone have what I

:30:06. > :30:08.have. I have three children. I thought, if it were me who could not

:30:09. > :30:12.have children, I would be devastated. To give someone what I

:30:13. > :30:22.had to change their lives, it was just amazing. When there is talk

:30:23. > :30:26.about the couple walking away and a surrogate mother deciding to keep a

:30:27. > :30:31.child, they were not issues for you at all. Was that dealt with in

:30:32. > :30:36.counselling? Yes, we had to go through a counselling session with

:30:37. > :30:41.our fertility clinic, myself and my husband, and be intended parents.

:30:42. > :30:49.Have separate counselling where we could talk through things that could

:30:50. > :30:55.go wrong. Sort of like we know what we are getting into, with our eyes

:30:56. > :30:59.wide open. Did you do it for financial reasons? It does not sound

:31:00. > :31:06.like it did but I just wanted to ask you that question. I can see why

:31:07. > :31:11.people might think that. Had I been doing it for financial gain, I would

:31:12. > :31:16.have done it for a lot more. It is just the expenses. I have not gained

:31:17. > :31:21.anything from it apart from pride and the knowledge that I have done

:31:22. > :31:29.something amazing and created parents, grandparents, auntie 's and

:31:30. > :31:33.uncles. To me, I will be so proud, everyday, for the rest of my life.

:31:34. > :31:40.White matter how do you feel in terms of gratitude to the mothers

:31:41. > :31:46.that carried the baby for you? -- How do you feel? No words to explain

:31:47. > :31:47.it. We are very grateful. It takes a very special person to do something

:31:48. > :31:55.like that. Raqqa Are surrogates said with the

:31:56. > :31:59.money she had known she had upgraded her housing and was going to put her

:32:00. > :32:02.children through school, which she couldn't have done. So is it

:32:03. > :32:08.different in India, in terms of being able to take money? Was it

:32:09. > :32:12.about earning money for her? Absolutely. It is a situation where

:32:13. > :32:15.they want to improve their lives, so they want to change their lives and

:32:16. > :32:19.we want to change our lives, so that is why it is a commercial situation

:32:20. > :32:23.that works, because both parties are very clear as to why they are doing

:32:24. > :32:26.it. I think the feeling of I want to help somebody and the pride and

:32:27. > :32:31.everything we have just talked about, I think that does come into

:32:32. > :32:35.it but the main reason was financial. When she is said to me

:32:36. > :32:38.you have help me because I can out that my child through education, my

:32:39. > :32:41.only response was you have no idea what you have done for me, the way

:32:42. > :32:45.you have changed my life and my husband's life and again created

:32:46. > :32:49.grandparents, auntie 's and uncles. I can't put into words how I felt

:32:50. > :32:54.towards that. Jane and Rachel, what do you think about it being more of

:32:55. > :32:58.a commercial enterprise, and whether surrogate parents could potentially

:32:59. > :33:03.do it to make money? Could that change here, would you think? I

:33:04. > :33:08.don't think that would be a good thing. Really, if my arrangement had

:33:09. > :33:15.been for financial gain, I think it would have tainted the relationship

:33:16. > :33:20.that we had, and that we still have. More of a transaction, perhaps? That

:33:21. > :33:25.would have ended with the handing over of the trialled. But I have

:33:26. > :33:31.such a good relationship. -- of the child. I felt, if I felt I was being

:33:32. > :33:36.a sort of service provider, it would not have been the same, it wouldn't

:33:37. > :33:39.have felt the same. So I just don't think it could work, and I know

:33:40. > :33:48.there has been some surveys by Surrogacy UK, where they have asked

:33:49. > :33:53.surrogates about commercialisation, and 98% said they wouldn't want to

:33:54. > :33:58.do surrogacy if it was for financial gain. What do you think, Jane? I

:33:59. > :34:01.agree, I think you would lose the emotional connection that you have

:34:02. > :34:06.and I think it would just become a whole area that people would go into

:34:07. > :34:10.for the wrong reasons. And that would worry me. Because at the

:34:11. > :34:17.moment there is a huge taboo around it anyway. I think it would become

:34:18. > :34:20.quite negative, whereas personally speaking it is very, very positive,

:34:21. > :34:28.it is the most amazing thing that someone can do. For us to have

:34:29. > :34:33.completed our family is so special. Anne-Marie, when you hear these

:34:34. > :34:40.people talking like this, you think why is there a need for anything to

:34:41. > :34:50.change in this country? You said it is aid to boot. I think the word

:34:51. > :34:52.commercial is not how four, I prefer compensated surrogacy, which is

:34:53. > :34:59.paying reasonable expenses incurred and some compensation for nine

:35:00. > :35:04.months of caring for a child and bringing a child into the world. And

:35:05. > :35:10.frankly pregnancy is not always easy, is it? At the same time we

:35:11. > :35:16.need regulation that protects everybody. If these arrangements and

:35:17. > :35:21.way have best practice guidelines, that would protect everyone. We

:35:22. > :35:25.won't have situations where there is no control, people going over the

:35:26. > :35:30.border and making exploitative arrangements that do cause concern.

:35:31. > :35:33.John has tweeted to say my husband and I are desperate to have kids but

:35:34. > :35:37.can't afford it, many surrogates profit from the child and no one

:35:38. > :35:43.enforces the law. There are many groups on Facebook for surrogacy,

:35:44. > :35:51.the law needs to change. What do you think about that? We need to have

:35:52. > :35:55.proper and clear regulation, clarification of how advice can be

:35:56. > :35:59.given, so that proper advice can be taken by intending parents from the

:36:00. > :36:01.very beginning. And of course all true sticks are a busy will

:36:02. > :36:07.continue. Nobody is saying it shouldn't. And I have not met a

:36:08. > :36:13.surrogate mother who didn't first and foremost have an emotional wish

:36:14. > :36:17.to fulfil that arrangement. That was first and foremost. The compensation

:36:18. > :36:22.and pay came second. Sherine, having listened to the expenses of how

:36:23. > :36:26.surrogacy has worked for Jane and Rachel, would you consider surrogacy

:36:27. > :36:33.in this country, if you were to do it again? I guess never say never.

:36:34. > :36:38.India have now banned surrogacy for foreign couples will stop how soon

:36:39. > :36:42.did that come in after you... We were very lucky, literally a year

:36:43. > :36:46.after our son was born. We were incredibly lucky to get through

:36:47. > :36:49.before they in forced the ban. We would have to consider something

:36:50. > :36:53.else will stop having listened to these experiences, it does seem to

:36:54. > :36:57.be a very experienced -- positive act for some, but again we know that

:36:58. > :37:02.it can go very wrong, and I think it goes back to our primary concern. I

:37:03. > :37:05.think it is unfortunate that it is not better regulated here because it

:37:06. > :37:09.would stop people having to go abroad. Now that other countries are

:37:10. > :37:14.banning surrogacy, I think the UK does need to compensate by

:37:15. > :37:18.regulating surrogacy here, because women are having children later in

:37:19. > :37:20.life, late of our parents would have, and so people are going to

:37:21. > :37:27.need assisted reproduction more now than they ever did. Women should be

:37:28. > :37:32.assisted in understanding what their options are. How common is surrogacy

:37:33. > :37:36.becoming in this country? It is certainly on the increase. The only

:37:37. > :37:44.figures we can look at those parents who actually apply for and obtain a

:37:45. > :37:50.parental order. Doesn't everybody have to get a parental order? No.

:37:51. > :37:56.What happens if you don't get one? Then your child has no legal status.

:37:57. > :38:00.It is still the child of this Arabic which in future could have very

:38:01. > :38:03.serious consequences for the child, issues of citizenship, inheritance,

:38:04. > :38:10.but a child has a right to parentage and status. But not everybody does.

:38:11. > :38:13.Again, because a confusion about the law, a concern that they may have

:38:14. > :38:17.broken the law because they gave their surrogates compensation over

:38:18. > :38:22.and above expenses. They fear of going to the courts. The only

:38:23. > :38:26.figures we know the number it made in any one year, but I don't think

:38:27. > :38:31.that is a full reflection of all of the surrogacy arrangements that

:38:32. > :38:35.occur in this country. Great to talk to you all. Following on from the

:38:36. > :38:41.tweet, there is information available, I am at a Conference

:38:42. > :38:46.tomorrow, Families through Surrogacy are holding a Conference tomorrow on

:38:47. > :38:48.Liverpool street. They do it annually, and things like that will

:38:49. > :38:53.help people like John who treated in to provide more information on

:38:54. > :38:58.surrogacy for stop there are so many more people you can speak to at

:38:59. > :39:02.those conferences. That is in London tomorrow. Yes. So there are things

:39:03. > :39:09.where people can get more information. Thank you for all of

:39:10. > :39:12.your comments today. Thanks so much for all your comments

:39:13. > :39:16.on our story about the twins born Only three year old Ava

:39:17. > :39:19.is being offered life altering surgery but her brother Louie

:39:20. > :39:21.who has the same condition was denied the operation;

:39:22. > :39:24.and their parents want the NHS to offer the surgery

:39:25. > :39:28.to more children. You've been sending

:39:29. > :39:31.in your comments. Stuart tweeted: I really hope

:39:32. > :39:33.this lovely couple get The very best of luck

:39:34. > :39:42.to you both and your children. And Anne tweeted: What utterly

:39:43. > :39:45.amazing parents Ava Louis have. Here's a short extract

:39:46. > :39:53.from the interview We were having to leave the hospital

:39:54. > :39:56.every night while they were still in the neonatal unit, so we didn't have

:39:57. > :39:59.our babies with us. We had been given this news, this devastating

:40:00. > :40:08.news, trying to come to terms with that. They did paint a very black

:40:09. > :40:13.picture. So we almost started a bit of a grieving process of the life we

:40:14. > :40:17.envisaged with our children. But at the same time, we store had our

:40:18. > :40:22.children and we were grateful for that. At the same time, you are

:40:23. > :40:28.trying to get your head around what is being told here. And how were

:40:29. > :40:38.they developing, because knowing as you say, prior to situation where

:40:39. > :40:40.parents only discover when the develop mental milestones aren't

:40:41. > :40:45.hit, you were able to see at Anfield. With them being very small,

:40:46. > :40:49.they said that premature babies don't generally hit the milestones

:40:50. > :40:56.anyway, so that was thrown in the mix as well. Louie took to the

:40:57. > :41:00.bottle before Ava did from being very small, so things from an early

:41:01. > :41:03.stage looked pretty good. We are thankful to say that things have not

:41:04. > :41:09.turned out as bad as the paediatrician told us it may, which

:41:10. > :41:13.in hindsight is a good thing because we really celebrate everything that

:41:14. > :41:19.we do, as they were growing up. So, yes, we are doing really well. That

:41:20. > :41:24.is good. We were quite critical, because anything they were not

:41:25. > :41:31.doing, it was blown out of proportion. Louie suffered from acid

:41:32. > :41:34.reflux at three months old. We automatically thought he would have

:41:35. > :41:38.a problem with feeding, due to has cerebral palsy. It was just acid

:41:39. > :41:42.reflux, and it was controlled through medication. But you have

:41:43. > :41:47.always got that in the back of your head. We used to call it the big

:41:48. > :41:54.dark cloud. That followed us around, unfortunately. Which, to an extent

:41:55. > :41:58.is slightly still there. Yes, but you just learn to deal with it, I

:41:59. > :42:02.think. Pretty resilient. Louie has also got epilepsy. He has had a

:42:03. > :42:08.couple of seizures, one fairly recently, but it is under control,

:42:09. > :42:15.to a degree. So we just carry on and do what we do. So, yes, we just try

:42:16. > :42:19.to stay positive. It sounds like you have had fabulous treatment and

:42:20. > :42:25.support. Yes. You then discovered the possibilities of this operation

:42:26. > :42:31.with the trial. And Ava had it. What difference has that made to her? For

:42:32. > :42:35.her, it has been completely life changing. Prior to her operation,

:42:36. > :42:42.she was getting around crawling, but also using a little walk with

:42:43. > :42:50.wheels. She was always right on her tiptoes, on the knuckles of her

:42:51. > :42:54.toes, knees out, on the knuckles of her toes, to the point where her

:42:55. > :42:58.toes used to bleak because she was right up on them. When she was in

:42:59. > :43:02.recovery after the operation, just having a look at how her legs moved,

:43:03. > :43:08.we moved her legs and burst out in tears, we had never seen her legs

:43:09. > :43:11.move like that before. It was incredible. For all five days after

:43:12. > :43:14.the operation they stood her up for the first time and her feet were

:43:15. > :43:19.flat on the floor. It was just incredible. We can't begin to say

:43:20. > :43:22.how much we were over the moon by it, seeing her feet flat on the

:43:23. > :43:25.floor, we didn't realise how big her feet were because they had never

:43:26. > :43:31.been a right angled position before. So now you want the same for Louie.

:43:32. > :43:39.Absolutely. It has made us more determined, seeing the instant of

:43:40. > :43:40.Ava, truly life changing. Phil and Emma. You can see the full interview

:43:41. > :44:01.on our website. We were hoping to bring you the

:44:02. > :44:02.interview with Nina Simone's