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:00:00. > :00:08.Hello it's Thursday, it's 9.15, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

:00:09. > :00:14.The television magician Paul Daniels has died at the age of 77

:00:15. > :00:27.after being diagnosed with a brain tumour.

:00:28. > :00:30.We'll bring you memories of Paul throughout the programme; do get

:00:31. > :00:36.Also this morning: A promise to balance the books by 2020,

:00:37. > :00:39.but do Chancellor George Osborne's sums add up?

:00:40. > :00:46.His budget will be closely looked at by experts today.

:00:47. > :00:51.What I'm saying in this budget is we have got to hold to the cause that

:00:52. > :00:54.we have set out. We have to take action on the public finances sothat

:00:55. > :00:59.we are stable and secure and don't pay later and we've got to back

:01:00. > :01:02.small businesses, the self-employed, working people, by cutting their

:01:03. > :01:04.taxes and helping our economy to grow.

:01:05. > :01:07.As he confirms the outlook for our economy isn't as healthy

:01:08. > :01:09.as he thought we'll ask our panel how confident they feel

:01:10. > :01:16.The doctor who has acted as an expert witness for parents

:01:17. > :01:19.accused of killing of harming their children will find out today

:01:20. > :01:21.if her fitness to practise has been impaired.

:01:22. > :01:27.She tell us she's not prepared for losing her job.

:01:28. > :01:37.It's completely devastating. This reflects on 23 32 years as a

:01:38. > :01:40.paediatric neuropathologist. I think unblemished many, many publications

:01:41. > :01:43.in the scientific literature and to have that come to an end in this way

:01:44. > :01:46.is terribly, terribly painful. Also ahead, pet owners convicted

:01:47. > :01:49.of dangerous dogs will face harsher punishments under new sentencing

:01:50. > :01:59.guidelines in England and Wales. We speak to one woman

:02:00. > :02:02.attacked and badly hurt She tells us new sentences

:02:03. > :02:23.won't make any difference. Welcome this morning. We want to

:02:24. > :02:28.hear from you on everything we are talking about today. You can get in

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:02:33. > :02:33.standard network rate and you can watch the programme online wherever

:02:34. > :02:37.you are. First this morning,

:02:38. > :02:41.the magician and comedian Paul Daniels has died

:02:42. > :02:44.after being diagnosed He had his own magic show on the BBC

:02:45. > :02:51.which ran for 15 years. He was at his Berkshire home

:02:52. > :02:54.with his wife Debbie when he died Nick Higham looks back at his life:

:02:55. > :02:59.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC

:03:00. > :03:04.News Channel until 11 this morning. He took old-fashioned

:03:05. > :03:11.magic and re-fashioned it He became a fixture

:03:12. > :03:17.in the Saturday night schedules. He'd started in northern clubs,

:03:18. > :03:20.combining magic with a chirpy, One, two, out the way,

:03:21. > :03:28.you are not supposed to go slow. He devised a catch phrase

:03:29. > :03:30.to deal with hecklers. As Maureen, Debbie and Bobby go

:03:31. > :03:39.inside the tent, the tent Some of his illusions

:03:40. > :03:47.were staggerings, like making an elephant disappear

:03:48. > :03:49.in the middle of a field. Welcome your host on

:03:50. > :03:54.Wipeout, Paul Daniels... For 20 years, he was one of the most

:03:55. > :03:57.popular entertainers. And made guest appearances

:03:58. > :04:05.in programmes like Strictly Come Oh, sorry, love, I thought

:04:06. > :04:15.you were ready for bed. What first attracted

:04:16. > :04:31.you to the millionaire Paul He was famous for his toupe and for

:04:32. > :04:33.his marriage to Debby Magee which amused many people.

:04:34. > :04:36.What first attracted you to the millionaire Paul

:04:37. > :04:42.The couple seemed genuinely happy together.

:04:43. > :04:46.Paul Daniels could be chippy and some thought him smug.

:04:47. > :04:49.He fell out with BBC managers who dropped his show in the 90s,

:04:50. > :04:51.but there was no doubting his popularity.

:04:52. > :05:07.Paul Daniels. Let's talk to Lizo Mzimba, he was big on the small

:05:08. > :05:10.screen at a time when success meant massive fame? Absolutely.

:05:11. > :05:14.Particularly in the 80s, looking back at some of the clips we have

:05:15. > :05:18.been looking at reminds you of how popular he was. There were people

:05:19. > :05:22.out there who were great magicians with sleight of hand et cetera and

:05:23. > :05:28.there were people out there who we are great entertainers, he could

:05:29. > :05:34.combine both and that's what made him into such a star. He learnt the

:05:35. > :05:38.skills from an early age and he was almost a half comedian, half

:05:39. > :05:43.magician working with people in clubs, then at TV he knew

:05:44. > :05:48.instinctively how to work with the camera with the audience at home.

:05:49. > :05:53.With fast patter, he combined those things into becoming one of this

:05:54. > :05:58.great magicians and entertainers. The broadcasters recognised that, so

:05:59. > :06:05.he did the shows like Every Second Counts, because he had an incredible

:06:06. > :06:11.amount of charisma in front of him. You saw his patter, that kind of

:06:12. > :06:15.machine-gun sticato patter, he was one of the greats and was so popular

:06:16. > :06:19.for so long. Although this news has been expected for the last few

:06:20. > :06:27.weeks, still so very sad for so many people. We are going to talk to

:06:28. > :06:34.Graham Howe, organiser of the War Grave Festival of which Paul Daniels

:06:35. > :06:38.was a supporter. It's a please sure to be on and Paul was a great

:06:39. > :06:44.contributor to our community and we are delighted to pay tribute to him.

:06:45. > :06:48.What sort of things did he do? The War Great Festival is a biannual

:06:49. > :06:57.festival with 40 events over two weeks. From the very first time that

:06:58. > :07:03.Debbie and Paul got involved, they'd been joining in, whether it's

:07:04. > :07:14.joining in the parade and coming to events, they put on a magic show for

:07:15. > :07:18.the RNLI and they also helped us get a number of events moving with the

:07:19. > :07:23.theatre workshop and doing an event which was Strictly Come Dancing

:07:24. > :07:30.where they came along as judges. They were always very generous with

:07:31. > :07:34.their time, both Paul and Debbie and were very good at giving us advice

:07:35. > :07:39.in running the events. Of course, he didn't have to do that, is that a

:07:40. > :07:43.measure of the man you knew? Indeed. When we were in his house one day

:07:44. > :07:46.talking about his magic show, of course we were the amateurs and he

:07:47. > :07:50.was the professional, so there was a lot of things we didn't know or

:07:51. > :07:56.mistakes that we were making. He was very good at putting us right

:07:57. > :08:02.without us feeling that we were doing it badly. He was very

:08:03. > :08:09.professional in his approach but equally, we'd see them in the local

:08:10. > :08:12.pub and they would just join in as normal human beings even though he

:08:13. > :08:18.was a worldwide celebrity. How will you remember him? As a kind,

:08:19. > :08:22.generous man and, actually, what you saw is what you got.

:08:23. > :08:27.Thank you, thank you very much for joining us Graham Howe. Lots of

:08:28. > :08:31.reaction coming through on Twitter. Keith Chegwin, TV presenter says,

:08:32. > :08:37.we've lost a lovely, kind and magic man, lover you and thinking of you,

:08:38. > :08:41.I shall miss you a lot. Paul Chuckle from the Chuckle Brothers said to

:08:42. > :08:47.hear of the death of Paul Daniels, RIP, thoughts with the family.er

:08:48. > :08:52.Darren Day, RIP, God bless, thoughts with his family and friends. He was

:08:53. > :08:56.a nice man. Arlene Phillips says, sorry to hear of the death of Paul

:08:57. > :09:01.Daniels my dhawingts are with you. Graham texted to say sorry to hear

:09:02. > :09:06.the news, he was very much part of the '80s era I grew up in. My heart

:09:07. > :09:11.felt regards and sympathy to Debbie and the family. A text, very sad

:09:12. > :09:15.news hearing about Paul Daniels, a member of the magic circle for many

:09:16. > :09:20.years, thoughts with Debbie, he'll be missed. John on by thor, a

:09:21. > :09:24.cheerful man, we need more people like that in this overpoliced

:09:25. > :09:29.miserable world now. Let us know how you will remember

:09:30. > :09:31.Paul Dan yeses and we'll have much more throughout the programme --

:09:32. > :09:34.Paul Daniels. The fine detail of the budget

:09:35. > :09:37.will come under increasing scrutiny today after the Chancellor's promise

:09:38. > :09:41.to get the government books back It is that promise that will be

:09:42. > :09:46.examined closely by money experts at the Institute for Fiscal Studies

:09:47. > :09:49.who will reveal their verdict today. Although George Osborne gave

:09:50. > :09:51.warnings about the risks the economy faces there were give aways

:09:52. > :09:53.and promises, declaring his budget was one that 'puts the next

:09:54. > :09:56.generation first'. Let's recap the headlines;

:09:57. > :10:01.the budget started withthe bad news. Growth forecasts for the UK economy

:10:02. > :10:05.have been revised down markedly for the next five yearswith more

:10:06. > :10:08.cuts planned to help The surprise one, a tax on sugary

:10:09. > :10:25.drinks followed by tax cuts for small businesses; a raising

:10:26. > :10:28.of the tax free personal allowance,fuel duty to be frozen

:10:29. > :10:36.for the sixth consecutive year; Earlier George Osborne defended

:10:37. > :10:38.the move to cut benefits for disabled people insisting,

:10:39. > :10:47.in fact, they would get more We are increasing the money

:10:48. > :10:51.available to young people. That money will go up as a budget, so we

:10:52. > :10:55.have to make sure we help the most vulnerable in society and we are

:10:56. > :10:58.responding to an independent report, it wasn't as part of the budget, we

:10:59. > :11:02.did this last week, and the Work and Pensions department is saying, what

:11:03. > :11:05.can we do to make sure this disability benefit is focussed on

:11:06. > :11:09.those who need our help most but it's a rising budget, it's not a

:11:10. > :11:13.falling budget, and you can only afford to do that, you can only

:11:14. > :11:18.afford to help disabled people, you can only afford to invest in schools

:11:19. > :11:21.like the great school I'm in here in West Yorkshire, if you have that

:11:22. > :11:24.growing economy and businesses are succeeding and small businesses are

:11:25. > :11:28.growing and the self-employed person is watching a programme and is about

:11:29. > :11:34.to go out to work knows that they have the Government on their side.

:11:35. > :11:34.That's what the budget set out to do.

:11:35. > :11:37.You've been telling us what you think of the Chancellor's

:11:38. > :11:48.new budget, from the sugar tax to the new lifetime ISA.

:11:49. > :12:03.We will introduce a new sugar levy on the soft drinks industry.

:12:04. > :12:09.I have a four-month-old baby, so I was really pleased to hear

:12:10. > :12:12.the Government was going to be introducing a tax on sugary drinks.

:12:13. > :12:14.People who like Coke are going to drink Coke.

:12:15. > :12:16.That's how I lost my teeth, it is all fake.

:12:17. > :12:19.I think the sugar tax sends a very good signal that more

:12:20. > :12:23.sugar, but I worry that it's too easy to get round.

:12:24. > :12:26.I think that education is a far more effective and important way

:12:27. > :12:31.This is a budget for the next generation.

:12:32. > :12:38.effect as the tax allowance goes higher #

:12:39. > :12:41.I think one of the biggest and best moments of the budget was definitely

:12:42. > :12:45.As the father of a 20-year-old daughter, I am really pleased

:12:46. > :12:50.As good as it is that I can have this lifetime ISA,

:12:51. > :12:52.I won't have anything to put into it.

:12:53. > :12:54.Many people have to choose between food and transport,

:12:55. > :13:14.Well, that was a very interesting budget.

:13:15. > :13:22.Let's get the thoughts of nay Shand Smith, a 21-year-old apprentice from

:13:23. > :13:30.Limington. Emily Hodgson is a drama

:13:31. > :13:33.teacher and actress living in London Sarah Stewart

:13:34. > :13:35.is from Guildford. She receives Personal Independence

:13:36. > :13:37.Allowance after having to give up Chris Pockett is from

:13:38. > :13:41.a Gloucestershire based company called Renishaw - they manufacture

:13:42. > :13:52.precision measuring equipment used Nathan, what do you think? They have

:13:53. > :13:56.raised the apprenticeship wage. I'm doing a technical certificate

:13:57. > :14:01.apprenticeship which means my wage is higher, but for new people coming

:14:02. > :14:04.in, it's a very good positive for having no skills and they are

:14:05. > :14:08.getting paid to be taught new skills which is really good. What will that

:14:09. > :14:13.wage increase mean for you? Well, because I'm doing a technical

:14:14. > :14:19.certificate, it doesn't affect me, but for new people coming up, it

:14:20. > :14:25.will affect them to help them get on to earning money and getting a job.

:14:26. > :14:30.Chris, you work for a manufacturing business, what does something like

:14:31. > :14:33.that mean for a company like yours? Apprenticeships are incredibly

:14:34. > :14:37.important for the future of our business. The budget was billed very

:14:38. > :14:43.much as about the future. There are a number of things that help us as a

:14:44. > :14:47.manufacturer within that. It was fairly neutral, nothing really

:14:48. > :14:52.specific for manufacturing but the reduction in corporation tax down to

:14:53. > :14:57.17%, we are already seeing reductions ahead of that. That

:14:58. > :15:01.enables manufacturers to invest more in productivity, to make decisions

:15:02. > :15:06.using their own money, it's better to retain the money we earn and to

:15:07. > :15:12.spend it as we see fit. We'll spend it wisely. We invest in production

:15:13. > :15:16.process and innovation and in people and apprenticeships are one of

:15:17. > :15:20.those, we have 120 apprentices in training, we are recruiting 45 this

:15:21. > :15:25.year, so being able to retain more of our profits and invest for the

:15:26. > :15:29.future is important and enables more manufacturers that we supply

:15:30. > :15:33.globally to up skill their staff to invest in new technology, to improve

:15:34. > :15:37.productivity. That was mentioned yesterday. I wanted to ask you

:15:38. > :15:42.specifically about productivity because you have said you want to

:15:43. > :15:46.invest more in productivity. The Chancellor has downgraded the

:15:47. > :15:51.productivity or the productivity forecasts have been downgraded since

:15:52. > :15:54.November. Tell us what that means for people that keep hearing this

:15:55. > :15:56.word productivity and don't know what it means on the ground, so for

:15:57. > :16:05.a business like yours? It is making sure that for every

:16:06. > :16:09.unit of money that you put into your business, that you are getting a

:16:10. > :16:14.much better return in terms of out put from your manufacturing process

:16:15. > :16:19.and therefore products you can sell, there is an excellent opportunity

:16:20. > :16:24.next month, in Birmingham at the NEC, the yuc's largest industrial

:16:25. > :16:27.show, where there is round 600 exhibitors exhibiting the latest

:16:28. > :16:34.technology where companies can take advantage of low interest rates to

:16:35. > :16:37.invest for the future, and to improve their productivity, using

:16:38. > :16:41.products like ours but others in our sector as well. Emily you are a

:16:42. > :16:48.self-employed actress and drama teacher, you are under ho so you

:16:49. > :16:53.qualify for this new savings lifetime ice sacks how do you see it

:16:54. > :16:57.affecting you? That is a very good thing, I would look for that being

:16:58. > :17:00.self-employed I don't a pay into pensions, so if there is the

:17:01. > :17:05.possibility for me to pay into something and have that, obviously,

:17:06. > :17:09.it is there, if I can't access it until I am much older but it would

:17:10. > :17:12.be benefit to me. Do you have the spare income to do that? Not a the

:17:13. > :17:16.moment, that is something I would look for in future, I don't know if

:17:17. > :17:20.that is something we have to start immediately. I don't know the

:17:21. > :17:27.conditions of this, so that is something I would look into, so that

:17:28. > :17:30.would be beneficial, so it is difficult to comprehend that.

:17:31. > :17:37.Anything else in the budget you think will materially affect you? I

:17:38. > :17:41.think the Crossrail 2 is a huge asset for anybody living in London,

:17:42. > :17:46.because the commuter trains constantly are being a real problem,

:17:47. > :17:49.something that lives in north London and commuting, because I am

:17:50. > :17:58.freelance, I do lots of travel so that would be brilliant. Let us

:17:59. > :18:03.bring in Sarah Stewart. You get the PIP, the incapacity payment, changes

:18:04. > :18:08.have been announced, cut have been announced, us what your situation is

:18:09. > :18:13.at the moment and will it will be affected by the budget? Yes, I will

:18:14. > :18:18.be affected by the budget, after of next year I won't qualify for the

:18:19. > :18:25.PIP daily care part, because they are reducing the point scheme, which

:18:26. > :18:30.leave us with just my ESA coming in, so it's a big change. I called it

:18:31. > :18:34.incapacity payment, it is independence payments, so when you

:18:35. > :18:39.say it will be a big change, what change will that make to you on a

:18:40. > :18:44.day-to-day basis, do you think? Well, it's like having the

:18:45. > :18:50.additional costs from being disabled, like needing automatic

:18:51. > :18:55.car, to extra heating, prescription, I don't get free prescriptions, so

:18:56. > :18:59.just losing that money will have a knock-on effect. Is there anything

:19:00. > :19:06.else in the budget that will directly affect you, do you think?

:19:07. > :19:14.To be honest, I haven't really looked that far into it. I got as

:19:15. > :19:22.far as... INAUDIBLE. It is very depressing and demoralise, it, yes.

:19:23. > :19:26.Why do you feel that way? It is just the constant pressure, the

:19:27. > :19:31.assessments, the rigmarole, I went through a court case, to win my PIP,

:19:32. > :19:38.and now next year I will be losing it, and it is just, like I say, it

:19:39. > :19:45.is constant barrage of assessments and needing to prove how disabled

:19:46. > :19:49.you are, to somebody over a desk. Chris, as a businessman, how do you

:19:50. > :19:53.feel about the future? The Chancellor talked of storm clouds

:19:54. > :19:57.gathering and the various growth forecasts being downgraded, do you

:19:58. > :20:03.feel like the picture has changed since November? We are a global

:20:04. > :20:08.business, so 95% of our sales are actually exports, so we are, our

:20:09. > :20:11.largest markets are China, USA and Japan and Germany. The UK only

:20:12. > :20:17.represents 5% of our business, what we are seeing in the UK, the

:20:18. > :20:21.companies we are supplying to are doing very well. Significant

:20:22. > :20:25.investment, significant growth in their sectors so there is hope here,

:20:26. > :20:29.with some of the things I have mentioned, reduction in corps

:20:30. > :20:34.co-ration tax, what that means is we can retain that money, invest for

:20:35. > :20:38.the future and create more wealth because fundamentally there is only

:20:39. > :20:43.three-ways to create it, dig it out of the ground, you grow it or you

:20:44. > :20:46.make thing, and that is what we as a manufacturer do, we will therefore

:20:47. > :20:52.recruit more people, we have doubled or staff in the last few year, we

:20:53. > :20:56.have gone from 1200 to 2700 over the last six year, so and those people

:20:57. > :20:59.pay tax, we pay more corporation tax, so you know, from the

:21:00. > :21:03.manufacturing sector, generally things are good and those of us

:21:04. > :21:07.exporting are still doing well. Thank you all very much. Chris,

:21:08. > :21:14.Nathan, Emily and Sarah. Manufacture Let us know what you think, and you

:21:15. > :21:16.can keep up-to-date online with our budget live update tsds and the key

:21:17. > :21:25.points. -- updates.

:21:26. > :21:34.More tributes to Paul Daniels who has died today at the age of 77.

:21:35. > :21:39.We will have much more coming up. Also still to come, the doctor who

:21:40. > :21:47.has acted as an expert witness for parents accused of killing or

:21:48. > :21:52.harming their children, we find out if a fitness to practise has been

:21:53. > :22:04.put in place. She says she is not prepared for losing her job.

:22:05. > :22:06.The magician and comedian, Paul Daniels, has died

:22:07. > :22:10.He became one of the biggest stars on television during the eighties,

:22:11. > :22:12.thanks to 'The Paul Daniels Magic Show', which he presented

:22:13. > :22:14.alongside his wife, and glamorous assistant,

:22:15. > :22:17.He announced earlier this year that he had an incurable brain

:22:18. > :22:21.The Chancellor George Osborne has told the BBC he remains confident

:22:22. > :22:24.that UK public finances will be back in surplus by 2020.

:22:25. > :22:26.He's defended the decisions made in yesterday's budget,

:22:27. > :22:28.in which he announced higher public borrowing ahead -

:22:29. > :22:30.citing the slowing UK economy and global economic jitters.

:22:31. > :22:42.MPs will debate Mr Osborne's plans in parliament later.

:22:43. > :22:48.Is have set out the plans and then a end body the Office for Budget

:22:49. > :22:53.Responsibility has lobbed at the plans and says if you hold to the

:22:54. > :22:56.course, if you deliver those plan, if the economy grows as expected

:22:57. > :22:59.then we will have a surplus towards the end of the

:23:00. > :23:02.Parliament David Cameron travels to Brussels

:23:03. > :23:05.today for more talks He'll attend a summit of EU leaders,

:23:06. > :23:09.which is set to be dominated by a proposed deal with Turkey,

:23:10. > :23:11.amid warnings that Greece is becoming a refugee camp

:23:12. > :23:13.for the rest of Europe. The number of migrants waiting

:23:14. > :23:16.at the Greece-Macedonia border The Kurdish militant group TAK has

:23:17. > :23:19.claimed responsibility for Sunday's terror attack in the Turkish

:23:20. > :23:21.capital, that killed 37 people. In an online statement,

:23:22. > :23:24.the group said the bombing in Ankara was revenge for military operations

:23:25. > :23:27.carried out by Turkey in Kurdish Owners of dangerous dogs will face

:23:28. > :23:36.harsher sentences if the animals have been deliberately

:23:37. > :23:38.trained to be aggressive, under new sentencing guidelines

:23:39. > :23:40.in England and Wales. It comes after a number of changes

:23:41. > :23:55.to the law including a new offence those plan, if the economy grows as

:23:56. > :23:58.expected then we will have a surplus towards the end of the

:23:59. > :24:07.Parliament Cliff Mitchell more has died at the age of 96. Best known as

:24:08. > :24:12.the host of Tonight he covers events including the Apollo Monday

:24:13. > :24:14.landings. Tony Hall said he was an outstanding broadcaster.

:24:15. > :24:17.To the sport now with Will Perry; and Will, Arsenal's season isn't

:24:18. > :24:26.Good morning. Coming up at ten we will have reaction the Champions

:24:27. > :24:32.League where Arsenal were knocked out in the last 16 for the sixth

:24:33. > :24:35.year running, Neymar, Suarez and Messi with Barca's goal. Arsene

:24:36. > :24:39.Wenger says they are the best three strikers that he has ever seen, they

:24:40. > :24:42.say, he says they transformed normal life into art. We will hear from

:24:43. > :24:59.Wenger. The 11 sixths for West Indies

:25:00. > :25:04.batsman crease gale which sent England to a six wicket defeat.

:25:05. > :25:07.Action from that to come as well. England's women they get under way

:25:08. > :25:13.against Bangladesh in half an hour, there is good news from an England

:25:14. > :25:15.point of view with Joe Marler free to play against France. We will see

:25:16. > :25:33.you at 10.00. Lots of tributes to Paul Daniel

:25:34. > :25:35.coming through. St France. We will see you at 10.00.

:25:36. > :25:38.Lots of tributes to Paul Daniel coming through. Jan said "I thought

:25:39. > :25:40.he was talented. One memory I have is being totally lost in the

:25:41. > :25:44.Oxfordshire countryside when Paul and Debbie drove past, I thought I

:25:45. > :25:50.are follow them, little did I know they weren't on their way home so I

:25:51. > :25:53.was even more lost than ever." Side when Paul and Debbie drove past, I

:25:54. > :25:56.thought I are follow them, little did I know they weren't on their way

:25:57. > :25:59.home so I was even more lost than ever." Ian said "Paul Daniel made it

:26:00. > :26:02.seem so simple until you I know they weren't on their way home so I was

:26:03. > :26:04.even more lost than ever." Ian said "Paul Daniel made it seem so simple

:26:05. > :26:07.until you stopped to think." "Paul Daniels inspired me to be a

:26:08. > :26:09.magician, love you Paul. Ian said "Paul Daniel made it seem so simple

:26:10. > :26:12.until you stopped to think." "Paul Daniels inspired me to be a

:26:13. > :26:15.magician, love you Paul." Ian "A sad loss, Ian said "Paul Daniel made it

:26:16. > :26:17.seem so simple until you stopped to think." "Paul Daniels inspired me to

:26:18. > :26:20.be a magician, love you Paul." Ian "A sad loss, a real entertainer."

:26:21. > :26:23."When Paul was on strictly he was aroom calmer." Another one says I

:26:24. > :26:25.worked with Paul in panto, he was a wonderful kind man, they were a joy

:26:26. > :26:28.to work alongside. He never failed to entertain us with his close up

:26:29. > :26:32.magic and enthusiasm for his craft was infectious, a truly sad loss. We

:26:33. > :26:37.can talk to someone inspired by Paul Daniels, the magician Jamie Raven.

:26:38. > :26:42.Jamie, tell us, what it was about Paul Daniels that inspired you? Yes,

:26:43. > :26:49.I think as a magician, fist and foremost you want people to be

:26:50. > :26:51.amazed an impressed. What Paul did was he managed to entertain

:26:52. > :26:54.everybody through the whole process, it wasn't just what he did that

:26:55. > :26:59.amazing everybody, it was how he did it, and the jokes and the patter and

:27:00. > :27:04.you know, the fun he had with even while he was doing it that got me

:27:05. > :27:08.and yes, a sad day. We are seeing a picture of you with Paul, is that a

:27:09. > :27:15.moment when you met your hero? Yes, it wasn't the first time I met him.

:27:16. > :27:19.That was after I did, I was on Britain's Got Talent. Debbie has a

:27:20. > :27:23.radio show and I live in Berkshire, I met him a couple of times before.

:27:24. > :27:30.I went for an interview, she said Paul is coming in the you want to

:27:31. > :27:34.hang on. We had a chat and we had a lovely chat and yes, that was, that

:27:35. > :27:39.was not the last time but one of the last times I saw him. Was he a sort

:27:40. > :27:46.of big on screen fig you for you growing up? Yes, -- figure As most

:27:47. > :27:51.people my age, I am in my mid 30s, as I was growing up I caught the

:27:52. > :27:56.tail end of his career. Yes, in terms of magic in this country he,

:27:57. > :28:02.there is another... Paul Daniels was magic on the BBC and he brought,

:28:03. > :28:05.brought it back to public consciousness, for a long time and

:28:06. > :28:09.you know, there is not a single magician performing in this country

:28:10. > :28:13.that wasn't inspired by him or inspired by someone who was inspired

:28:14. > :28:17.by him. He made a huge difference to our world. When someone does

:28:18. > :28:22.something world the trick it is make it look easy, he made it look easy,

:28:23. > :28:27.but it is not that at all. You know, it is the old saying, for, you have

:28:28. > :28:31.to practise for 1,000 hours before you make it look like you can do it

:28:32. > :28:36.with your eyes shut. He was so skilled as a magician with his

:28:37. > :28:39.hands, he was brilliant with words, so he could disarm people and catch

:28:40. > :28:44.them off guard because he was making them laugh at the same time. It is

:28:45. > :28:47.one of the classic ploys to misdirect people's attention, you

:28:48. > :28:51.have to lead them elsewhere, so as I said before, that is what I loved

:28:52. > :28:56.about what he did, it wasn't just the tricks it was how he did them,

:28:57. > :29:00.and inspired generations since. We are seeing him performing some

:29:01. > :29:07.tricks here, in his heyday, is there one in particular that sticks with

:29:08. > :29:11.you? My favourite one is one of the simplest, a chop cup. A cup and

:29:12. > :29:14.ball, you had to guess where it was in the ball or in his pocket. You

:29:15. > :29:19.would get it wrong. Whatever you said was wrong. At the end, he would

:29:20. > :29:24.say, I will give it a flick. When you give give it a flick under the

:29:25. > :29:28.cup there is a lemon, this came out of nowhere, he said if you love the

:29:29. > :29:32.lemon you will go crazy for the orange. I remember watching that,

:29:33. > :29:36.you watch it and you know that that has come about through thousands of,

:29:37. > :29:40.tens of thousands of hours of practise and yes, that was my

:29:41. > :29:43.favourite. The cup and ball. I imagine when you are a magician, you

:29:44. > :29:48.can always entertain people with a trick or two and people want to be

:29:49. > :29:51.entertained. Yes, I think it is one of those things, that magic is great

:29:52. > :29:55.because when you watch it live, there is no comparison to it. If you

:29:56. > :30:01.watch it on television people will say if I was there it wouldn't get

:30:02. > :30:05.past me, and it is one of those only things you can do live and it is

:30:06. > :30:09.better than watching out the screen. If you have that skill you are

:30:10. > :30:14.always able to do something for someone, they might never see it

:30:15. > :30:16.again and it is special some time, profound, and something he was a

:30:17. > :30:22.master of. Do you think you would have gone into magic if you hadn't

:30:23. > :30:28.seen him on TV growing up? I doubt it to be honest, we all, we are all

:30:29. > :30:32.inspired to do something by someone and something they have done, if he

:30:33. > :30:35.hadn't been on television it would have been later on in my life I

:30:36. > :30:40.would have seen magic, I was interested because of what I saw him

:30:41. > :30:45.do, and that led me to, you know, look up other magicians and research

:30:46. > :30:48.and try and learn. If I hadn't seen him, yes, you say we probably

:30:49. > :30:51.wouldn't be talking now. And how will you remember him ultimately,

:30:52. > :30:56.obviously you have the memories, from your childhood, but then, in,

:30:57. > :31:04.recent years you met him. Yes, my memories will be as you say, first

:31:05. > :31:08.and foremost watching the master of it, I am biassed and it is an art.

:31:09. > :31:13.He was one of the best the world has produced. My real memory will be how

:31:14. > :31:16.generous and gracious he was with his time for people in our

:31:17. > :31:21.profession, with have lots of conventions in the magic world

:31:22. > :31:24.throughout the year and Paul loved magic, he was at almost all of them.

:31:25. > :31:29.If somebody would ask a question about a trick he would help them

:31:30. > :31:32.out. If you had a question about something else, maybe in the world

:31:33. > :31:36.of television or media he would help, he was someone who loved magic

:31:37. > :31:41.and was happy to give back and he left the craft of magic in a better

:31:42. > :31:42.place than hen he found it. That is the highest compliment I can pay

:31:43. > :31:54.him. Thank you. Lots of tributes coming through. One

:31:55. > :31:58.from Mark Lynsey saying, Paul was an outstanding showman, a great

:31:59. > :32:05.entertainer of the BBC, his long-running magic show delighted

:32:06. > :32:08.viewers, as did his quiz shows and children's favourite Wizzbit. He

:32:09. > :32:15.will be missed and thoughts are with his family.

:32:16. > :32:23.A Doctor Who acted as an expert witness has been found to have

:32:24. > :32:27.misled some courts. A disciplinary panel found that the Doctor Who

:32:28. > :32:31.disputes the diagnosis of Shaken Baby Syndrome skewed research to

:32:32. > :32:35.support her views. Dr Squire explained why she had a complete

:32:36. > :32:37.turn around in her perspective on Shaken Baby Syndrome when giving

:32:38. > :32:43.expert evidence. It was about the year 2000

:32:44. > :32:47.when I read more information published, more research had been

:32:48. > :32:53.published about shaken baby syndrome, and realised that this

:32:54. > :32:56.just didn't fit with the traditional belief that shaking was the cause

:32:57. > :32:58.of retinal and subdural haemorrhages in babies, that's bleeding behind

:32:59. > :33:01.the eyes and around the brain, This pathology made it

:33:02. > :33:06.clear that there may not necessarily be trauma

:33:07. > :33:09.in these babies. And so I read as much

:33:10. > :33:12.as I could about shaken baby syndrome, I went into great depth

:33:13. > :33:15.about the literature, and found that, indeed,

:33:16. > :33:17.there is very little evidence to support the shaken

:33:18. > :33:20.baby hypothesis which is the current

:33:21. > :33:22.mainstream view. So, from that moment,

:33:23. > :33:24.the evidence you were giving as an expert witness

:33:25. > :33:27.meant that you went from being in favour of the evidence

:33:28. > :33:31.being presented before you, indicating potential abuse

:33:32. > :33:34.of a child, to in fact regarding it Does that undermine

:33:35. > :33:40.you and your credibility? On the contrary, this indicates that

:33:41. > :33:43.I have taken on board the new research,

:33:44. > :33:46.I have done a lot of reading and study, looked

:33:47. > :33:50.at all the cases before me, and I've actually reassessed

:33:51. > :33:54.the information rather than sticking with

:33:55. > :33:57.the old hypothesis. So, do you completely believe that

:33:58. > :34:02.shaken baby syndrome, I think that we don't

:34:03. > :34:09.understand what the causes are of these features

:34:10. > :34:23.which have been described as shaken baby syndrome, and there is nothing

:34:24. > :34:26.I can find in the literature which supports the belief that

:34:27. > :34:30.shaking is the cause Of course, impact

:34:31. > :34:35.can do it and trauma can do it, and that may be

:34:36. > :34:38.accidental or inflicted, but I don't think that

:34:39. > :34:41.shaking is a reliable diagnosis unless we have a lot

:34:42. > :34:43.of supporting evidence, such as damage to

:34:44. > :34:48.the neck or grip marks and

:34:49. > :34:50.fractures. Would you see yourself

:34:51. > :34:52.as being on a mission to stop someone being convicted

:34:53. > :34:54.of something you No, I'm not on a mission

:34:55. > :34:59.at all and I'm not trying to stop convictions,

:35:00. > :35:02.because I'm perfectly aware that people abuse babies,

:35:03. > :35:05.and I've seen plenty of cases I'm just simply anxious to show

:35:06. > :35:10.that this is not an automatic diagnosis, and we need

:35:11. > :35:12.to look far more carefully and look at the range

:35:13. > :35:15.of possible explanations before we jump to a conclusion

:35:16. > :35:17.that a baby has During the course of the GMC

:35:18. > :35:22.investigation, since the GMC investigation began,

:35:23. > :35:25.you continued to give evidence as an expert witness,

:35:26. > :35:28.and that is something that has made The GMC may find

:35:29. > :35:39.you dishonest today. That could potentially

:35:40. > :35:41.mean that you would be This reflects on 32 years

:35:42. > :35:49.as a paediatric neuropathologist, I think,

:35:50. > :35:51.unblemished, many publications in scientific literature,

:35:52. > :35:54.and to have it all come to an end in this way is terribly,

:35:55. > :35:56.terribly painful. I would hope I can

:35:57. > :36:10.continue doing research Dominic Hughes, our Health

:36:11. > :36:16.Correspondent, tell us more about this case? As Dr Squire outlined,

:36:17. > :36:21.the background to this is this very bitter split within the scientific

:36:22. > :36:26.community over Shaken Baby Syndrome. The majority view, as Dr Squire

:36:27. > :36:30.explained, is the majority view is that three signs need to be present,

:36:31. > :36:35.so swelling of the brain, bleeding between the skull and the brain and

:36:36. > :36:39.bleeding in the retina. If those signs are present, broadly speaking,

:36:40. > :36:45.the majority view is that there is a good chance a baby has been shaken.

:36:46. > :36:50.Dr Squire believes those symptoms can be caused, those signs can be

:36:51. > :36:57.caused by other thing, for example a low level fall. But, the GMC, the

:36:58. > :37:01.panel, the independent panel that heard months and months of evidence

:37:02. > :37:05.from expert witnesses, was very clear that they weren't entering

:37:06. > :37:10.into a discussion of that scientific row, if you like. What they were

:37:11. > :37:15.looking at specifically was her conduct as an expert witness and,

:37:16. > :37:20.broadly speaking, there were two charges that she faced really. One

:37:21. > :37:26.was that she went way beyond the boundaries of where her expertise

:37:27. > :37:29.lay so she started in court cases talking about things like

:37:30. > :37:33.ophthalmology or biomechanics which as I understand it is what happens

:37:34. > :37:36.to the brain when the brain is moved around inside the skull through

:37:37. > :37:43.shaking, she started toe talk about those areas which she wasn't quality

:37:44. > :37:48.tide to talk about. The second charge -- wasn't qualified to talk

:37:49. > :37:51.about. The second charge is that she cherry picked from evidence of other

:37:52. > :37:56.cases to support the fact that maybe these babies hadn't been shaken. It

:37:57. > :38:03.centres around six particular cases. Dr Squire has given evidence in

:38:04. > :38:08.doeses of cases -- dozenses of cases. It's alleged she overstepped

:38:09. > :38:12.the mark and misrepresent odd they are people's research and that panel

:38:13. > :38:15.last week, on Friday, found she member misleading and dishonest.

:38:16. > :38:19.They say she was irresponsible in her evidence to the court. So today,

:38:20. > :38:23.what we are going to hear, is the second stage of this process about

:38:24. > :38:26.whether or not her fitness to practise as a doctor has been

:38:27. > :38:31.impaired in the light of those findings and then there is a further

:38:32. > :38:36.stage that, given that, if they do find she's been impaired, then they

:38:37. > :38:39.will next week I understand, decide what sanctions they are going to

:38:40. > :38:44.bring against her. That could be anything from no sanctions to

:38:45. > :38:46.operating under supervision or limitations or being struck off from

:38:47. > :39:00.the medical register all together. Charities say they everythey have

:39:01. > :39:06.been denied millions of pounds because of messages on websites

:39:07. > :39:18.which suggest donation may be more from one person had the part of the

:39:19. > :39:26.Giftaid taken off. And the migrant crisis is top of the agenda today.

:39:27. > :39:30.A deal has broadly been agreed. For each Syrian sent back, a Syrian

:39:31. > :39:35.already in Turkey would be resettled in the EU. Turkey would also get

:39:36. > :39:38.extra money and more progress on the country's integration with the EU.

:39:39. > :39:44.That summit will take place later today. But what about the migrant

:39:45. > :39:45.who is've survived the journey? They have been recounting their perilous

:39:46. > :40:16.voyage. The journey from the Turkish shore

:40:17. > :40:19.to the Greek shore was very horrific, because

:40:20. > :41:40.we've got children. Our correspondents Rob

:41:41. > :41:48.Watson is in Brussels. What is likely to happen with this

:41:49. > :41:53.deal? I often think the summits are doomed to success in the sense that

:41:54. > :41:57.diplomats can't bear the idea of politicians walking away from an EU

:41:58. > :42:00.summit, it would send off such a terrible signal, but obvious think

:42:01. > :42:05.there are some big questions out there. If there is a deal, will it

:42:06. > :42:09.work? In other words, will this plan of deterring people from setting out

:42:10. > :42:12.on this journey by returning people from Greece toe Turkey, is that

:42:13. > :42:16.practical, will it be legal, can that be pulled off? Then of course,

:42:17. > :42:22.the second big issue at the summit is, what price, what political price

:42:23. > :42:27.EU member states are willing to pay Turkey for its cooperation. In some

:42:28. > :42:32.ways, these EU summits are doomed to success, people need a deal. The

:42:33. > :42:36.question is, will it work? Thank you Rob.

:42:37. > :42:39.Coming up, tougher sentences for the owners of dogs that kill

:42:40. > :43:02.Sunny from you as always, is the weather as sunny?

:43:03. > :43:08.Yes, but it's been a cloudy start. Fog still around. Weather-watchers

:43:09. > :43:12.doing us proud. Picture from Dorset this morning, a lovely sun rise. It

:43:13. > :43:17.wasn't like that everywhere. In Norfolk, a lot of low cloud and also

:43:18. > :43:21.some fog. Now, what is happening is, we have very low cloud rolling in

:43:22. > :43:24.from the North Sea, it's a cold North Sea, so some of this is taking

:43:25. > :43:29.its time to clear. It's not everywhere. As we drift over to the

:43:30. > :43:35.other side of the country in Cumbria, we have blue skies, so we

:43:36. > :43:38.have an east west split. In the west, sunny, pleasant after a cold

:43:39. > :43:43.start, but in central and eastern areas, there is a lot of low cloud.

:43:44. > :43:48.It will be thin and it will break and we'll see some sunshine today.

:43:49. > :43:53.Hurray for that. Today we have sunny spells. There is

:43:54. > :43:57.an exception to that rule, that is across parts of eastern Scotland and

:43:58. > :44:02.also parts of eastern England. Now, we've had a lot of cloud here in the

:44:03. > :44:13.last few days but it's not going to be as extensive today. You can see

:44:14. > :44:17.where we have the cloud. Some of the cloud is high and some is low in

:44:18. > :44:20.Northern Ireland, but it will all tend to lift, thin and break and we

:44:21. > :44:25.are in for a pleasant afternoon. It will take a while to lift from the

:44:26. > :44:28.central lowlands and you can see how it's on the coastline of eastern

:44:29. > :44:32.Scotland and north-east England. Possibly as far south as

:44:33. > :44:35.Lincolnshire. If you are in Northern Ireland, happy St Patrick's Day, we

:44:36. > :44:39.are looking at a lovely afternoon, a lot of sunshine. Temperatures up to

:44:40. > :44:44.about nine in Belfast. Across Scotland, a lot of sunshine. When we

:44:45. > :44:52.lose the stubborn cloud, you might find it will take time before it

:44:53. > :44:57.completely lifts. We are back into the sunshine in

:44:58. > :45:02.Cumbria and Lancashire. Where we have got all the cloud,

:45:03. > :45:08.that too will thin and break. We'll have some sunshine. Not such a keen

:45:09. > :45:12.breeze across the south so it won't feel as cold here. Love any in the

:45:13. > :45:17.south-west of England. You are in for a treat. There'll be a lot of it

:45:18. > :45:21.today. Today is likely to be the sunniest day of the week with the

:45:22. > :45:26.most widespread sunshine. Got that too across the Cheltenham area. It

:45:27. > :45:28.will be cloudy and there is the risk of drizzle tomorrow and it will feel

:45:29. > :45:33.cold. The cloud in the east tonight drifts

:45:34. > :45:37.inland. Patchy low cloud amongst that with some fog and drizzle. Out

:45:38. > :45:40.towards the west, under clearer skies, it's going to be cold and

:45:41. > :45:44.some prone areas will see some frost. Tomorrow morning, we still

:45:45. > :45:48.will have high pressure firmly dominating our weather. If anything,

:45:49. > :45:51.it drifts north-west, so the distribution of the cloud moving

:45:52. > :45:55.around it will be slightly different. From tomorrow, across

:45:56. > :46:00.much of England, there'll be a lot of cloud. Some of that will be low.

:46:01. > :46:05.You can see some drizzle from it. For the south-west, Wales and

:46:06. > :46:10.north-west England, along with Scotland and Northern Ireland, we'll

:46:11. > :46:14.see some sunshine. The temperatures are coming down a touch. Into the

:46:15. > :46:20.weekend with high pressure clinging on by the skin of its teeth, still

:46:21. > :46:21.mostly dry, often cloud which with a bit of sunshine, chilly by day and

:46:22. > :46:27.night. Hello it's Thursday, it's ten

:46:28. > :46:29.o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme

:46:30. > :46:31.if you've just joined us. Magical memories of TV magic

:46:32. > :46:34.virtuoso Paul Daniels, who's died at the age of 77 -

:46:35. > :46:53.we bring you tributes to his talent If the ball it is in my hand, it is

:46:54. > :46:54.under the cup. Get in touch with your memories of

:46:55. > :46:56.Paul. Also this morning: a promise

:46:57. > :46:59.to balance the books by 2020 - His budget will be closely looked

:47:00. > :47:04.at by MPs and experts today - and we look at what it

:47:05. > :47:12.means for you. Charities say they could be denies

:47:13. > :47:15.millions because of personal messages on the largest fundraising

:47:16. > :47:21.website. Messages like from mum and dad, that suggests donations come

:47:22. > :47:28.from more than one person. It might mean the Gift Aid gets taken off.

:47:29. > :47:34.New laws and tougher sentences for owners of dangerous doings if it can

:47:35. > :47:37.be proved the dog is trained to be dangerous.

:47:38. > :47:40.We speak to one woman who was attacked and badly hurt

:47:41. > :47:45.She tells us new sentences won't make any difference.

:47:46. > :47:47.Tributes are paid to the magician and comedian, Paul Daniels,

:47:48. > :47:52.He became one of the biggest TV stars of the eighties,

:47:53. > :47:54.thanks to The Paul Daniels Magic Show, which he presented

:47:55. > :47:56.alongside his wife and assistant Debbie McGee.

:47:57. > :47:59.He announced last month that he had an incurable brain tumour.

:48:00. > :48:01.The entertainer Keith Chegwin described Paul Daniels as a lovely,

:48:02. > :48:09.The Chancellor George Osborne has told the BBC he remains confident

:48:10. > :48:12.that UK public finances will be back in surplus by 2020.

:48:13. > :48:14.He's defended the decisions made in yesterday's budget,

:48:15. > :48:16.in which he announced higher public borrowing ahead -

:48:17. > :48:18.citing the slowing UK economy and global economic jitters.

:48:19. > :48:31.MPs will debate Mr Osborne's plans in parliament later.

:48:32. > :48:37.I have set out the plans in the budget, and then a completely

:48:38. > :48:39.independent body, which even respects called the Office for

:48:40. > :48:43.Budget Responsibility has looked at the plans and it says if you hold to

:48:44. > :48:47.the course, if you deliver those plans, if the economy grows as

:48:48. > :48:48.expected, then we will have a surplus towards the end of the

:48:49. > :48:53.then we will have a surplus towards the end of the Parliament.

:48:54. > :48:55.David Cameron travels to Brussels today for more talks

:48:56. > :48:59.He'll attend a summit of EU leaders, which is set to be dominated

:49:00. > :49:01.by a proposed deal with Turkey, amid warnings that Greece

:49:02. > :49:04.is becoming a refugee camp for the rest of Europe.

:49:05. > :49:06.The number of migrants waiting at the Greece-Macedonia border

:49:07. > :49:09.The Kurdish militant group TAK has claimed responsibility for Sunday's

:49:10. > :49:12.terror attack in the Turkish capital, that killed 37 people.

:49:13. > :49:14.In an online statement the group said the bombing in Ankara

:49:15. > :49:17.was revenge for military operations carried out by Turkey in Kurdish

:49:18. > :49:26.Owners of dangerous dogs will face harsher sentences if the animals

:49:27. > :49:28.have been deliberately trained to be aggressive,

:49:29. > :49:30.under new sentencing guidelines in England and Wales.

:49:31. > :49:33.It comes after a number of changes to the law including a new offence

:49:34. > :49:42.Scottish programme to get primary school children walking or running

:49:43. > :49:44.a mile a day will be extended across the UK.

:49:45. > :49:47."The Daily Mile" which was first introduced at a school in Stirling

:49:48. > :49:50.has been taken up by more than 500 others across Scotland,

:49:51. > :49:57.in an attempt to improve fitness and concentration in class.

:49:58. > :49:59.Cliff Michelmore, one of the most familiar figures on BBC radio

:50:00. > :50:02.and television for more than four decades has died aged 96.

:50:03. > :50:04.Best known as the host of current affairs programme Tonight,

:50:05. > :50:06.he covered events including the Apollo moon landings

:50:07. > :50:08.and presented the travel programme Holiday.

:50:09. > :50:18.BBC director general Tony Hall said he was an "outstanding broadcaster".

:50:19. > :50:21.Will Perry's back with the sport - and Arsene Wenger has been fulsome

:50:22. > :50:29.in his praise of Barcelona, hasn't he?

:50:30. > :50:37.If you are an Arsenal fan you might want to close your eyes. Barcelona's

:50:38. > :50:41.players transform normal life into art according to Arsene Wenger, they

:50:42. > :50:47.lost, going out of the Champions League at the last 16 stage for the

:50:48. > :50:52.sixth year in a row. Messi, Neymar and Suarez were on target. Neymar

:50:53. > :51:03.with the first after less than 20 minutes. Suarez scored his 17th goal

:51:04. > :51:09.in 14 games. And Messi's little dink over ops many in the Arsenal goal

:51:10. > :51:16.had Arsene Wenger in raptures. -- Ospina. The quality of

:51:17. > :51:19.creativity, especially Messi is absolutely exceptional. You go

:51:20. > :51:25.through 90 minutes and you come out of a game. He didn't miss one fist

:51:26. > :51:31.touch. No matter where the ball comes from, you have as well, at

:51:32. > :51:36.some stage, in our sport, admire art and we have two or three players who

:51:37. > :51:41.transform normal life into art, and I respect that.

:51:42. > :51:44.It is a huge night in the Europa League with Manchester United up

:51:45. > :51:50.against Liverpool in the last 16 second leg. Louis van Gaal says

:51:51. > :51:55.United must deliver with his side 2-0 down. He is contracted until the

:51:56. > :51:58.end of next season but has come under pressure during a

:51:59. > :52:02.disappointing campaign, if he does go in the summer who takes over?

:52:03. > :52:06.Their former captain has spoken to the BBC in his first interview since

:52:07. > :52:11.retirement in January. He says United would have a tough decision

:52:12. > :52:17.at the end of the season. Mourinho has success in the past. He played a

:52:18. > :52:24.football a certain way, it is well-known, and it is a Chard

:52:25. > :52:31.choice, a hard choice, Mourinho is one of the greatest ever, and Sir

:52:32. > :52:38.Alex Ferguson, these are the best managers.

:52:39. > :52:41.Away from the football England prop Joe marler prop won't be pub

:52:42. > :52:45.Northern Irished for called Samson Lee gypsy boy. He is free to play

:52:46. > :52:57.France as England go for their first Grand Slam for 13 year, he avoided a

:52:58. > :53:01.ban for strike -- avoided a ban for striking Rob Evans,

:53:02. > :53:05.England's women are starting their first match at the world Twenty20

:53:06. > :53:12.cricket. They hose to bat against Bangladesh. England's men, they

:53:13. > :53:18.began their T20 campaign pain with a defeat against West Indies.

:53:19. > :53:24.Chris gal smashed 11 sixes is on his way to an unbeaten 47 ball century.

:53:25. > :53:28.England had set what they thought was a competitive target of 182.

:53:29. > :53:31.Gail put paid to that. That is all the sport.

:53:32. > :53:34.Hello, thank you for joining us this morning, welcome to the programme

:53:35. > :53:37.if you've just joined us, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC

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:53:48. > :54:02.via the bbc news app or our website bbc.co.uk/victoria.

:54:03. > :54:08.Tributes have opinion pouring in for Paul Daniels. Lots of comments

:54:09. > :54:12.coming in, lots of people calling him a top entertainer, a lovely kind

:54:13. > :54:16.man and beloved star, so many of you are getting in touch who grew up

:54:17. > :54:21.with Paul Daniels, watching his BBC magic show which ran for 15 year, he

:54:22. > :54:24.was at his home hen he died in the early hours of this morning, we will

:54:25. > :54:29.talk to some people who knew him in a moment, but first let us look at

:54:30. > :54:34.what made him special. You have to take one of those bands

:54:35. > :54:37.and put it round my first so the ring cannot get out. Happy with

:54:38. > :54:41.that? Super. This is the trick. This is the one where people have been

:54:42. > :54:45.known to give me a standing ovation. Right? I do not tell you that

:54:46. > :54:48.because I particularly need one, I just don't want you to be

:54:49. > :54:53.embarrassed when you are the only one left sitting down.

:54:54. > :54:58.Now, this is your handkerchief. If I put that there, and push very hard

:54:59. > :55:02.on this end, a very interesting phenomenon will happen, it will make

:55:03. > :55:07.a hole in the handkerchief there, and a hole at the other end as it

:55:08. > :55:12.goes out. I can see you are impressed. The other alternative...

:55:13. > :55:16.No, no, the other alternative is it would come out this hand because the

:55:17. > :55:20.pressure there is too great. Do you understand that? Yes, yes. You wrap

:55:21. > :55:24.your wring up tight. Hold the end of the stick, you hold the other end,

:55:25. > :55:29.now you are both in on the act. I pronounce you man and wife now. You

:55:30. > :55:33.are not together? You are not? Sorry, I didn't realise that. If I

:55:34. > :55:38.had realised that what I would have done was put the band round, the

:55:39. > :55:43.handkerchief leek that, it is your ring, it is your ring, you

:55:44. > :55:48.handkerchief. Watch. Now that is right on there, and that is magic.

:55:49. > :55:52.Applause applause. Have a look at that. Nothing will be added, nothing

:55:53. > :55:56.taken away, this is a piece of cardboard, the piece of cardboard I

:55:57. > :56:02.am going to put over the top but as you can see, it does not affect the

:56:03. > :56:06.coins, it is merely, a little cover, you cannot see the jiggery-pokery,

:56:07. > :56:12.look at this. One pound and six pence. That is the total amount. If

:56:13. > :56:18.I start to move the Cowen coins round and then having moved them

:56:19. > :56:25.round like that, I take out the penny. Like this. The question is,

:56:26. > :56:29.if I put that in my pocket how much is left underneath the piece of

:56:30. > :56:33.cardboard, nothing will be added. Well, normally you would say a pound

:56:34. > :56:37.and five pence if you are good at math, it is not the case, there is

:56:38. > :56:41.still a pound and six pence, but I have moved them into a different

:56:42. > :56:45.order. Perhaps you were not watching closely enough. Over here, is a

:56:46. > :56:49.pound, over here is the penny, over here is the five pence piece. I will

:56:50. > :56:55.cover them up again with the same piece of card as before, nothing

:56:56. > :56:59.added, finger-tip, nothing in the hands, watch carefully. I go

:57:00. > :57:05.underneath here, and what I am going to do now, is I am going to move the

:57:06. > :57:10.coins round and take out this one. This is a five pence piece, very

:57:11. > :57:16.tiny coin to see on TV. There it is. I am going to put that in my pocket.

:57:17. > :57:21.How much have I got left? If you are any good at math it is a pound and a

:57:22. > :57:25.penny, but that not the right answer, underneath here I still have

:57:26. > :57:30.a pound and six pence. Which is where we came in. I am going to do

:57:31. > :57:35.it again, then. All you have to do is cover them over like this, and

:57:36. > :57:38.then what you do is you make sure that when you do it cover the coin,

:57:39. > :57:44.you cover them up and move them round and when you move them round,

:57:45. > :57:47.look, watch, I take out this time, the pound, and only the pound, if I

:57:48. > :57:54.take the point out like that and put it in my pocket, as I did before,

:57:55. > :58:01.how much have I got underneath here? A pound and six pence? No. Nothing

:58:02. > :58:05.at all. In fact, I -- you 1.06. This is your chance the clean out the

:58:06. > :58:10.bank, you have ten, I have 20, I will give you two to one. I am going

:58:11. > :58:16.to take the Queen and bend the corner.

:58:17. > :58:20.All right. Now, Can you see the corner of the Queen is bent. Would

:58:21. > :58:26.you like to make sure it is still the Queen? Yes. It is. Isn't it. Now

:58:27. > :58:30.these are the two black three, this is the Queen with the corner bent.

:58:31. > :58:33.All you have to do is keep your eye on the Queen, there, it has its

:58:34. > :58:40.corner bent. These two it doesn't matter, these are the three, where

:58:41. > :58:45.is the Queen for ?10? There. Certainly if you like. ?10. That is

:58:46. > :58:54.it, it is a black three, and... APPLAUSE.

:58:55. > :59:00.It is a shame. Don't feel worried about it. This phrase we have got

:59:01. > :59:03.round the booth heads you lose and tails I win, you don't stand a

:59:04. > :59:07.chance. A chap came up to me he had a three card trick, he said look,

:59:08. > :59:13.three cards and he asked me if I could do it. I said of course. I'm a

:59:14. > :59:16.genius at it. He said if you are such a genius guess where the black

:59:17. > :59:22.card is, I said on the bottom. He said that is a red. I said it must

:59:23. > :59:28.be on the top. He said no, red, I said middle he said a red. I said

:59:29. > :59:34.are you asking me to bet on a black card you have three red cards. He

:59:35. > :59:41.said no need the lose your hair, get on the press. I said it must be the

:59:42. > :59:47.one on the top. He said no, black, I said the middle, he said it is the

:59:48. > :59:53.black card. I said what is that for? He said that's for laughs.

:59:54. > :59:58.Don't think you are going to lose, we have this week's star prize just

:59:59. > :00:01.for you, here you have, you have won a coconut.

:00:02. > :00:06.Thank you. Enjoy the rest of the show.

:00:07. > :00:10.Great old fashioned magic delivered with panache, he wasn't just about

:00:11. > :00:17.the magic he was about the fun, the humour and many sly digs right back

:00:18. > :00:22.at himself We can talk to Graham rude who

:00:23. > :00:27.worked with you. You spoke to Debbie this morning, didn't you. Yes

:00:28. > :00:32.indeed, it was terribly sad news even though we knew it was going to

:00:33. > :00:39.happen, my heart goes out to Debbie and to Paul's family. He was a great

:00:40. > :00:43.guy, a great friend, we were friends for 57 years, and I have so many

:00:44. > :00:48.happy memories. As do lots of people. We were watching back some

:00:49. > :00:54.of his show, that you worked on, didn't you. Tell us what your role

:00:55. > :00:59.was alongside Paul? My title was magical consultant on the show. I

:01:00. > :01:03.was on it for 12 years and it was terrific, we were a real team, we

:01:04. > :01:10.worked hard, we had a yob to do at the end of the day, to produce the

:01:11. > :01:17.TV show, which was often seen by 17, 20 million people. And, but it was a

:01:18. > :01:21.team, and Paul who was the main man, was great to work with, he was a lot

:01:22. > :01:27.of fun, but the end of the day he had a job to do, as I said, but he

:01:28. > :01:33.looked after you, he was a very kind person, as well, if he knew you had

:01:34. > :01:38.a problem, or, worry of some kind he would be the first to be there to

:01:39. > :01:45.help you. He, he really was a genuine person. And Debbie, his

:01:46. > :01:47.wife, an absolute treasure, as a married couple you count wish for a

:01:48. > :01:56.more devoted couple. We are seeing a picture of you with

:01:57. > :02:01.both of them. You said he had a job to do, but he made it look

:02:02. > :02:08.effortless. Did he see it as a jo? Even at the height of his fame, we'd

:02:09. > :02:13.go to a magical convention or whatever, or into a magic shop and

:02:14. > :02:17.he'd be worried about the latest stuff and would be playing around

:02:18. > :02:22.with it, as we all do when we are just beginning. He just loved it. He

:02:23. > :02:26.was an entertainer without any shadow of a doubt. I think that a

:02:27. > :02:29.large part of that started in the working men's clubs which, believe

:02:30. > :02:37.you me, were vrksth very, very tough indeed. Very often, the audience

:02:38. > :02:42.would sit with their backs to the stage when you were introduced. You

:02:43. > :02:46.had to jolly well be good to make them turn around and enjoy you and

:02:47. > :02:53.Paul was a master, he was a people person. Also, full credit to his mum

:02:54. > :02:58.and dad who were very supportive and encouraged him and, in the latter

:02:59. > :03:02.years, as I've already mentioned, David Cameron by, his most devoted

:03:03. > :03:05.wife and partner on the stage as well as off, that you could wish

:03:06. > :03:09.for. You mentioned his mum and dad. What

:03:10. > :03:14.did he say to you about the little boy who was shaped into the man in

:03:15. > :03:21.the end who became a magician, what was it that mad him want to go into

:03:22. > :03:28.the magic? His dad used to make some of his early props. His mum used to

:03:29. > :03:37.sew curtains and all that kind of stuff. They've got to have full

:03:38. > :03:44.credit. I remember once being at Paul's house. There were discussions

:03:45. > :03:49.about a project. Paul's mum looked out of the window and said, there's

:03:50. > :03:53.somebody sitting in the car who, is it, and one of the executives said,

:03:54. > :03:56.it's a chauffeur, don't worry about it and Paul's mum said, well he's

:03:57. > :04:02.not sitting out there, he can come in here for a cup of tea with us and

:04:03. > :04:09.he came. And that kindness, that sort of thinking about people, it

:04:10. > :04:14.went right the way through. I remember being at a magic auction

:04:15. > :04:18.and we were bidding for various bits and pieces and there was a young kid

:04:19. > :04:23.wanting a wand. He was bidding for it. There was an older man bidding

:04:24. > :04:28.for it as well, he obviously had more money for the kid, then Paul

:04:29. > :04:33.started bidding, and it went up to quite a price. Paul got it and

:04:34. > :04:37.handed it over to the young boy and said "enjoy it, pal". And that was

:04:38. > :04:45.so typical of him. Lots of things that people didn't see, perhaps,

:04:46. > :04:50.which he would do and more perhaps in the limelight, he was the King

:04:51. > :04:54.rat of the water rats on two occasions which I think is unheard

:04:55. > :05:01.of. He did his bit for charity as well. First class guy in every

:05:02. > :05:06.single way and I shall miss him. The weeshed thing is, he meant so much

:05:07. > :05:11.to me, and I've known him for so long, that there will be a time when

:05:12. > :05:17.I feel as though he's still there. I'm not a religious person, but his

:05:18. > :05:24.presence will always be with me. It's a very, very sad day, but so

:05:25. > :05:31.many happy memories. His quality of life was staggering from the north

:05:32. > :05:35.working men's clubs to being an international superstar. It's a

:05:36. > :05:39.journey not many can take. How did he face up to his illness at the end

:05:40. > :05:51.and the fact that he knew he didn't have very long left? Well, I wasn't

:05:52. > :05:56.with him at the end. Paul and Debbie phoned when he'd finished a

:05:57. > :06:03.pantomime, perhaps he wasn't 100%, but I don't think Paul ever fully

:06:04. > :06:09.appreciated just how badly his illness was. Luckily, and we have

:06:10. > :06:16.all got to be grateful for this, Paul passed away in his sleep. He

:06:17. > :06:21.would know nothing about it. I'm just so grateful for that. If you've

:06:22. > :06:27.got to go, the way to go is in your sleep, Joanna. . You know, Paul, he

:06:28. > :06:36.wouldn't want us to be depressed and sad now. He'd be wanting us to

:06:37. > :06:41.remember his life. That's what we'll try to do. It's a tough ask at the

:06:42. > :06:43.moment, I'm afraid, but I'll miss him a lot. Thank you, thank you

:06:44. > :06:54.Graham. We can talk to Syd Little who was

:06:55. > :06:58.one half of the comedy duo Little Large who worked with Paul

:06:59. > :07:03.throughout the '80s. Thank you for joining us, a very sad day. What are

:07:04. > :07:07.your memories? A very sad day. Quite shocked really. I didn't realise

:07:08. > :07:13.Paul was that ill, I knew he was ill but not that ill and it was a shock

:07:14. > :07:18.this morning. We go back, as the gentleman before was talking about,

:07:19. > :07:22.to the working men's clubs in the '60s with Paul up in the north-east

:07:23. > :07:28.in England where he's from originally. It was hard. He was

:07:29. > :07:34.great. You saw his potential then even in those days and thought,

:07:35. > :07:39.well, you know, he's great, and he loved the sleight of hand and the

:07:40. > :07:43.card tricks, that was his forte. He was always striving for new things

:07:44. > :07:48.all the time. When the television show came on, it showed he was

:07:49. > :07:59.always doing different things, looking for different tricks. He

:08:00. > :08:06.never stopped, he was a work aholic. You were part of that generation

:08:07. > :08:13.where if you made it on to TV, you were big? He loved it all so much, I

:08:14. > :08:19.think that was it, that was his life really. I don't think he thought too

:08:20. > :08:24.much of the fame side of it. He enjoyed what he was doing, it was

:08:25. > :08:28.magic. Syd Little, thank you very much. Lots of you commenting on

:08:29. > :08:40.social media. Do tell us how you remember Paul Daniels.

:08:41. > :08:42.Charities say they've been denied millions of pounds

:08:43. > :08:45.all because of personal messages written by donors on the UK's

:08:46. > :08:49.Messages like from Mum and Dad, which suggested donations may have

:08:50. > :08:52.been from more than one person, had the gift aid part

:08:53. > :08:56.Just Giving, who's been removing the gift aid, said they'd done it

:08:57. > :08:58.in response to a crackdown from the taxman -

:08:59. > :09:01.HMRC denies they told JustGiving to do it.

:09:02. > :09:04.Giftaid works by allowing charities to claim back the 20 per cent

:09:05. > :09:07.basic-rate tax you've already paid on the money you donate.

:09:08. > :09:10.We can speak now to Victoria Pudney, who lost out on some money

:09:11. > :09:12.when she was fundraising for Brain Tumour Research

:09:13. > :09:14.after her son Charlie got tumour Kirstie Meredith,

:09:15. > :09:19.who had the gift aid donation taken off a donation made to her son,

:09:20. > :09:34.Ashley Bailey, from Brain Tumour Research and Andrew O'Brien,

:09:35. > :09:42.Kirsty, tell us what happened to you first? My husband donate toed my

:09:43. > :09:47.son's page. By 24th February, it had been removed. I noticed it and said

:09:48. > :09:52.to my husband, did you not tick the Gift Aid box and he said, of course

:09:53. > :10:00.I did. He said he had a print out that proved that he did tick the

:10:01. > :10:03.box. So basically my husband e-mailed just giving thinking it

:10:04. > :10:07.could be a mistake because at that point my husband was only the second

:10:08. > :10:12.point to make a donation on the page. They never responded to the

:10:13. > :10:21.e-mail and, because I then noticed that other Gift Aid had been removed

:10:22. > :10:27.from the page, I then rang Just Giving who said they were instructed

:10:28. > :10:33.by HMRC to remove the Gift Aid if more than one person Hadow

:10:34. > :10:37.negotiated. My husband, being an accountant, we trolled HMRC's site

:10:38. > :10:42.for a directive about this and there wasn't one. So I then rang HMRC who

:10:43. > :10:48.then eventually, when I got to speak to the correct person, said that

:10:49. > :10:56.it's a misunderstanding and they are trying to crack down on people that

:10:57. > :11:02.are doing raffles, coffee mornings and donating through one person and

:11:03. > :11:06.claiming Gift Aid which you are not allowed to do and I understand that,

:11:07. > :11:15.because the money has been raised by several people. But Just Giving were

:11:16. > :11:19.not very forthcoming, they have changed their donation page which

:11:20. > :11:27.now, when you are ticking to get Gift Aid, it now says "I am not a

:11:28. > :11:33.close relative, I am not related" at the point of donating, which is just

:11:34. > :11:40.ridiculous because most people that run a half marathon do rely upon

:11:41. > :11:46.their family to make donations. I think more upsetting for me, the

:11:47. > :11:52.charities have lost out on the 25% Gift Aid. Victoria, you have been

:11:53. > :11:56.fund-raising for brain due more research after your son was

:11:57. > :12:00.diagnosed with a brain tumour. How has this affected you? I had no idea

:12:01. > :12:06.this had taken place which is the worrying thing really. I was told by

:12:07. > :12:14.the charity that some of my donations had been affected. We were

:12:15. > :12:18.none the wiser. It was all very confusing, so it's just kind of not

:12:19. > :12:21.knowing and also you give money on the pretext that that is what is

:12:22. > :12:26.going to happen, then when it doesn't and you are not told, it

:12:27. > :12:32.seems a bit unethical. Do you know how much the amount has added up to?

:12:33. > :12:37.Not exactly, no. It's not insignificant. Ashley, it's small

:12:38. > :12:41.amounts of money potentially on individual cases, but adding up to a

:12:42. > :12:46.lot. Tell us the impact it's having? Absolutely. The impact for us in

:12:47. > :12:52.November which is the one month that can calculate when it was deductd

:12:53. > :12:58.was 3% of our income so over a year that would be ?120 100,000 that

:12:59. > :13:02.would affect our work. We invest ?2,740 a day on research, so that's

:13:03. > :13:05.over a month's research we wouldn't be able to perform as a result of

:13:06. > :13:09.that. Did you have advance notice that that was going to happen and

:13:10. > :13:13.how did you find out about it? We found out when the reduction was

:13:14. > :13:16.going to be made. We had notification of the amount and then

:13:17. > :13:21.it was slow coming through, when it finally did come through it TSB

:13:22. > :13:25.reduced by ?4,000 which was the November amount -- it had been

:13:26. > :13:28.reduced. I've spoken to Just Giving to speak about what they were doing

:13:29. > :13:34.to the month subsequent to November and I understand they had their own

:13:35. > :13:37.processes for reducing the Gift Aid on certain claims and that would

:13:38. > :13:43.have affected the other lady you are speaking to today. Andrew, what has

:13:44. > :13:48.caused this issue to arise? I think it's partly people not having a

:13:49. > :13:53.clear understanding of Gift Aid. It's a complex process and people

:13:54. > :13:56.think they are leaving a harmless message but HMRC are picking that up

:13:57. > :13:59.as multiple donations which isn't the case. That is part of the

:14:00. > :14:03.problem. Is it that difficult to pick through? Is it not clear one

:14:04. > :14:07.someone's ticked various boxes or whatever whether it's a donation

:14:08. > :14:10.from an individual albeit signed by other people effectively or it's an

:14:11. > :14:14.amount of money raised by a group of people? It can be a bit unclear

:14:15. > :14:20.because the nature of the message is, if it says love from mum and dad

:14:21. > :14:24.for example, if it's come from one person's bank account, HMRC is

:14:25. > :14:32.trying to second guess whether one person or two people have made that

:14:33. > :14:36.donation. What will happen going forward because Just Giving has said

:14:37. > :14:40.charities like Ashley's will be reimbursed. Is there going to be

:14:41. > :14:46.clarity going forward? We hope so, we are calling on HMRC to make the

:14:47. > :14:51.rules clearer. Gift Aid is 16 years old, it needs to be updated. For

:14:52. > :14:56.non-traditional families as well, we are going to work with them to make

:14:57. > :15:01.the rules clearer and with online providers. What about curse Kirsty

:15:02. > :15:05.was saying about the tick boxes asking questions that ask, are you

:15:06. > :15:08.related to this person, how is that relevant? They are trying to find

:15:09. > :15:13.out whether there is a connection between individuals giving money so

:15:14. > :15:24.they are trying to spot if people are using raffles, bake sales et

:15:25. > :15:30.cetera and raise ago lot of money. They are trying to investigate

:15:31. > :15:37.whether investments are right or wrong and that requires education.

:15:38. > :15:41.Is it Just Just Giving that are falling foul of this? No. Kirsty,

:15:42. > :15:48.how do you feel about it now? Well, I'm glad attention has been brought

:15:49. > :15:54.to it, but I, with my discussions with Gist Giving, they have manually

:15:55. > :16:02.removed the Gift Aid proportion and I feel if they can manually remove

:16:03. > :16:06.it, they can manually go back and re-put the Gift Aid back for the

:16:07. > :16:09.individuals that have lost out and the charities that have lost out.

:16:10. > :16:12.What about that, Andrew? Why isn't it easy just to fix it, if it was as

:16:13. > :16:24.easy to take it away? The relationship is such they can't

:16:25. > :16:30.easily identify which have been accepted is or rejected. What we

:16:31. > :16:35.need to see is a much greater information sharing. Was there an

:16:36. > :16:41.issue with Gift Aid being wrongly declared, knowingly by people, do

:16:42. > :16:44.you think? I don't think, I think most people claim Gift Aid end in a

:16:45. > :16:50.legitimate way, there is no reason to suggest there is an issue of

:16:51. > :16:56.people trying to claim it. First of all, the Gift Aid not being fit for

:16:57. > :17:00.the modern age where people are using digital platforms, but there's

:17:01. > :17:05.there is an issue round whether Gift Aid itself is, you know, been

:17:06. > :17:11.designed in a way that helps people to maximise their donations and that

:17:12. > :17:18.they understand that. That requires them to educate about Gift Aid and

:17:19. > :17:24.what a good donation is an what is eligible and ineligible. Thank you.

:17:25. > :17:31.HMR said: They also told us they work very

:17:32. > :17:34.closely with charities to ensure the gift aid rules are applied

:17:35. > :17:37.correctly and they receive the full Magical memories of TV magic

:17:38. > :17:43.virtuoso Paul Daniels, And the sightings of bright flashes

:17:44. > :17:53.of blue or green across the sky all over the UK in the early

:17:54. > :18:01.hours of this morning. Tributes have been paid

:18:02. > :18:08.to the magician and comedian, Paul Daniels, who's

:18:09. > :18:10.died at the age of 77. He became one of the biggest stars

:18:11. > :18:13.on TV during the eighties, thanks to the BBC's

:18:14. > :18:15.The Paul Daniels Magic Show, which he presented alongside

:18:16. > :18:17.his wife Debbie McGee. She was at his side

:18:18. > :18:22.when he died this morning. The Chancellor George Osborne has

:18:23. > :18:25.told the BBC he remains confident that UK public finances will be

:18:26. > :18:27.back in surplus by 2020. He's defended the decisions made

:18:28. > :18:29.in yesterday's budget, in which he announced higher

:18:30. > :18:31.public borrowing ahead - citing the slowing UK economy

:18:32. > :18:34.and global economic jitters. MPs will debate Mr Osborne's plans

:18:35. > :18:37.in parliament later. I have set out the plans

:18:38. > :18:40.in the budget, and then a completely independent body, which even

:18:41. > :18:42.respects called the Office for Budget Responsibility has looked

:18:43. > :18:45.at the plans and it says if you hold to the course, if you deliver those

:18:46. > :18:48.plans, if the economy grows as expected, then we will have

:18:49. > :18:50.a surplus towards the end David Cameron travels to Brussels

:18:51. > :18:57.today for more talks He'll attend a summit of EU leaders,

:18:58. > :19:01.which is set to be dominated by a proposed deal with Turkey,

:19:02. > :19:04.amid warnings that Greece is becoming a refugee camp

:19:05. > :19:06.for the rest of Europe. The number of migrants waiting

:19:07. > :19:08.at the Greece-Macedonia border The Kurdish militant group TAK has

:19:09. > :19:16.claimed responsibility for Sunday's terror attack in the Turkish

:19:17. > :19:19.capital, that killed 37 people. In an online statement the group

:19:20. > :19:21.said the bombing in Ankara was revenge for military operations

:19:22. > :19:24.carried out by Turkey in Kurdish The number of women

:19:25. > :19:35.and under-18-year-olds arrested for alleged terror-related

:19:36. > :19:37.offences has been rising - but overall numbers show

:19:38. > :19:39.a slight dip in the UK. 280 arrests were made during 2015,

:19:40. > :19:42.9 fewer than the previous year. The number of under 18s arrested -

:19:43. > :19:45.16 - is now at its highest Owners of dangerous dogs will face

:19:46. > :19:53.harsher sentences if the animals have been deliberately

:19:54. > :19:55.trained to be aggressive, under new sentencing guidelines

:19:56. > :19:57.in England and Wales. It comes after a number of changes

:19:58. > :20:11.to the law including a new offence Now for the sport. Arsene Wenger is

:20:12. > :20:16.full of praise for Barcelona strikers saying they transform

:20:17. > :20:21.normal life into art, after Arsenal were knocked out of the Champions

:20:22. > :20:27.League last night. Suarez gave Barca the lead with this volley. His 17th

:20:28. > :20:32.in 14 games. That was before who else, Messi produced this finish to

:20:33. > :20:36.make it 3-1 on the night, 5-1 on aggregate. The sixth year in a row

:20:37. > :20:41.Arsenal have lost in the last 16. It is a huge night at Old Trafford

:20:42. > :20:45.tonight, how important for that man, Louis van Gaal, his side take on

:20:46. > :20:49.Liverpool for a place in the quarterfinals of the Europa League.

:20:50. > :20:53.United 2-0 down from that first leg. Hartlepool -- Louis van Gaal says

:20:54. > :20:58.they must deliver. Danny Care and Vunipola will start for England as

:20:59. > :21:04.they go for their Grand Slam title since 2003 against France. So two

:21:05. > :21:12.changes in Paris with Ben Youngs and Joe mar he dropping to the Ben: The

:21:13. > :21:20.coach said we have our best 23. Can England's women fare better than the

:21:21. > :21:27.men in their opening T20 match. They chose to bat first. The captain has

:21:28. > :21:30.that boundary, she is still at the crease, England 60-1 in the ninth

:21:31. > :21:42.over. We will have more on the news channel throughout the day.

:21:43. > :21:49.More on the budget. George Osborne is insisting the UK will be back in

:21:50. > :21:52.the black by 2020 as promised. Providing the the economy keeps on

:21:53. > :21:57.are going, let us go to Norman Smith. So everyone has had a bit of

:21:58. > :22:01.time to unpick what he unveiled yesterday, tell us your thoughts.

:22:02. > :22:06.Here is the Red Book, it is only today we get a chance to go through

:22:07. > :22:10.it all, and, all sorts of creepy-crawlies come out. The

:22:11. > :22:14.biggest centres on the Chancellor's big idea which is he wants by the

:22:15. > :22:20.end of this Parliament to balance the book, more to make sure we have

:22:21. > :22:26.some cash to spare, that we have had a surplus, what he is aiming for is

:22:27. > :22:32.a ?10 billion surplus, in other words, we will have 10 billion quid

:22:33. > :22:36.in the bank. Now, a lot of people are pretty iffy about whether that

:22:37. > :22:41.is possible, because when you look at the numbers, it shows that in the

:22:42. > :22:46.last year of the Parliament, there is some heroic assumptions there, in

:22:47. > :22:50.the last year the Parliament, we will actually have a ?20 billion

:22:51. > :22:54.deficit, in other words, we will be ?20 billion in the red and in the

:22:55. > :23:01.space of a year, the Chancellor wants to turn that into a ?10

:23:02. > :23:03.billion surplus, now, the institute, the Office for Budget

:23:04. > :23:06.Responsibility, the people who kind of cast their eye over the

:23:07. > :23:12.Chancellor's numbers to make sure they add up, they have said frankly

:23:13. > :23:16.there is only a 55% chance, half-and-half chance of Mr Osborne

:23:17. > :23:23.being able to meet that central objective, more than that, the big

:23:24. > :23:28.think-tank in this area, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said we

:23:29. > :23:32.don't think we can probably do this without more tax rises and spending

:23:33. > :23:37.cuts. Mr Osborne was insisting that wouldn't be necessary this morning.

:23:38. > :23:40.I have set out the plan, in the budget, and then a completely

:23:41. > :23:43.independent body, which everyone respects called the Office for

:23:44. > :23:48.Budget Responsibility, has looked at the plans and it says if you hold to

:23:49. > :23:53.course, if you deliver the plan, if the economy grows as expected, then

:23:54. > :23:58.we will have a surplus towards the end of the Parliament, so we

:23:59. > :24:02.wouldn't need anything extra like more spending tax cuts or increase,

:24:03. > :24:06.we don't need those things now because we have the plans and the

:24:07. > :24:11.plans are assessed to deliver the security.

:24:12. > :24:14.The The other creepy-crawly to come out of this Red Book Joanna is Mr

:24:15. > :24:19.Importance's argument that the reason the economy is struggling, is

:24:20. > :24:23.basically because of everyone else, the global slow down, he told us

:24:24. > :24:28.yesterday, let me give you his words, he said the outlock for the

:24:29. > :24:32.global economy is weak and makes it a dangerous cocktail of risks, for

:24:33. > :24:35.the UK. In other words, it is the slow down in China, it is

:24:36. > :24:40.instability in the Middle East, it is plummeting oil price, it is all

:24:41. > :24:44.those sort of things that are causing us problems, but when you go

:24:45. > :24:50.through the Red Book, what appears to be the real issue is

:24:51. > :24:53.productivity, what we actually produce, as individuals, and the

:24:54. > :24:57.Office for Budget Responsibility say talk of the amount we produce

:24:58. > :25:01.getting better is a false dawn, in other words, it is not happening, we

:25:02. > :25:05.are not improving the amount of stuff we produce. Now, here is a

:25:06. > :25:10.surprise thing you might think OK, well, I kind of think we don't

:25:11. > :25:14.produce as much as the Germans and probably not as much as American

:25:15. > :25:19.workers but do you know we don't produce as much as the presence or

:25:20. > :25:23.the Italian, you think of the Italians and you think of siestas

:25:24. > :25:28.and a nice sunny life style but they work harder and produce more than us

:25:29. > :25:33.and that seems to be one of the main reasons we are in such economic

:25:34. > :25:37.difficulties. Norman, also a row brewing over cuts to benefits that

:25:38. > :25:42.have been announced. A real storm seems to be building up here,

:25:43. > :25:46.because you know, the biggest amount of cuts pencilled in by the

:25:47. > :25:52.Chancellor yesterday were actually on disability benefit, he is

:25:53. > :25:56.planning to trim round ?4 billion from the personal independence

:25:57. > :26:00.payments, which are given to people with disabilities to help them get

:26:01. > :26:03.back in to work, to help them with transport costs and the extra

:26:04. > :26:08.support they need to get back in to work. He wants to hack back round 4

:26:09. > :26:12.billion from that and there is a lot of unease in the Conservative Party

:26:13. > :26:16.too, it thatn't sort of broken out publicly but a lot of Tory MPs are

:26:17. > :26:22.saying hang on, how is this going to work? What are the details of this

:26:23. > :26:25.and why are we cuts benefits for the disabled when we are offering tax

:26:26. > :26:31.cuts to better off families, never mind Labour who are trying to find a

:26:32. > :26:36.way of forcing a vote on the issue. This was their Shadow Chancellor

:26:37. > :26:40.this morning. We are urging them now to think very carefully about then

:26:41. > :26:43.decisions that George Osborne made yesterday, because we have always

:26:44. > :26:46.said austerity is not an economic necessity, it is a political choice,

:26:47. > :26:52.he made his choices yesterday. He decided he would cut the taxes of

:26:53. > :26:56.capital gains tax to the ripest five % in society. He would pay for that

:26:57. > :27:02.by cutting benefits to people with disability, that is unacceptable.

:27:03. > :27:06.You know what this reminds me a bit of, it is early days but it has the

:27:07. > :27:13.potential to be another I tax credit row, you remember before the Autumn

:27:14. > :27:17.Statement, Mr Osborne wanted to pare back on tax credits and he was

:27:18. > :27:20.forced to back off. You get the sense this could develop into a

:27:21. > :27:25.similar problem for Mr Osborne. The only thing that makes it harder for

:27:26. > :27:31.him to back off is because saving this 4 billion is absolutely central

:27:32. > :27:35.if he is to get anywhere near his key objective of balancing the books

:27:36. > :27:41.and achieving that surplus. Thank you Norman.

:27:42. > :27:45.A major care company facing a bill for hundreds of thousands of pounds

:27:46. > :27:50.for nonpayment of the minimum wage, in an out of court settlement it has

:27:51. > :27:54.paid ?1250 to a care worker who hadn't been paid for time spent

:27:55. > :27:58.travelling between client, it could face a group action lawsuit by other

:27:59. > :28:02.workers. Zoe Conway from Radio 4's

:28:03. > :28:10.Today Programme has been The career worked for the company in

:28:11. > :28:15.Devon, a rural part of the country, so she was travelling between her

:28:16. > :28:19.elderly clients, visiting them, to wash them, to feed them, and to give

:28:20. > :28:24.them their medication, and because it was such a rural community she

:28:25. > :28:27.was working in she would travel great distances to visit them, often

:28:28. > :28:31.down narrow country roads, she took me on a tour of her work once and I

:28:32. > :28:35.could see that you know, there might be times when she was stuck behind a

:28:36. > :28:39.tractor and it could take more than half an hour to get to a client, but

:28:40. > :28:43.she wasn't being paid for any of that travel time. Not only that, as

:28:44. > :28:47.a result of not being paid for that travel time, she claimed that the

:28:48. > :28:51.company was in breach of the minimum wage regulation, so that is why she

:28:52. > :28:55.brought this case, that is why she was awarded this money and it was

:28:56. > :28:59.settled out of court by the company a few days ago. What are the

:29:00. > :29:04.implications of this? The interesting question is whether

:29:05. > :29:09.other carers come forward. The solicitors who represented her are

:29:10. > :29:13.appealing for carers to come forward and bring their own case, they think

:29:14. > :29:17.there could be hundreds that could benefit from a lawsuit. If you think

:29:18. > :29:21.about it, given the fact she got more than 1,000 pounds and she

:29:22. > :29:25.worked for the company for less than six months, row could see this could

:29:26. > :29:30.be costly, if enough of the carers come forward, that is what they are

:29:31. > :29:33.appealing for them to do. What is being said about, this, done about

:29:34. > :29:37.this? Is the Government, is there anything from the Government on it?

:29:38. > :29:41.I should say that the company have issued a statement to us, and have

:29:42. > :29:45.said they are disappointed that Caroline Barlow has chosen to take

:29:46. > :29:51.this action, the point they make is that since last year they have

:29:52. > :29:58.corrected carers ear pay where they thought it was necessary. They paid

:29:59. > :30:03.100 up to 2,000. The big of Government that is responsible for

:30:04. > :30:07.making sure that the minimum wage is paid is HM revenue ands can top,

:30:08. > :30:11.they have launched an inquiry into the big six care company, more than

:30:12. > :30:15.a year ago, I have asked them, where is this investigation at, what are

:30:16. > :30:20.we? Unfortunately, they can't tell us. Thank you very much.

:30:21. > :30:22.The Sentencing Council has today published new guidelines

:30:23. > :30:23.on punishments for dangerous dogs offences.

:30:24. > :30:25.Current guidelines allow judges to sentence people to a maximum

:30:26. > :30:28.of fourteen years in prison for the most serious offences.

:30:29. > :30:31.New recommendations will respond to changes in the law which now

:30:32. > :30:54.extend to attacks on private property and on guide dogs.

:30:55. > :31:05.She spent months in hospital and despite that, still owns three dogs.

:31:06. > :31:09.We are joined by a Chair of the Magistrates Association as well.

:31:10. > :31:17.Tell us what happened to you, Amanda? I was exercising a dog that

:31:18. > :31:21.came in as a stray. It lasted eight weeks, he was fine and, out of the

:31:22. > :31:25.blue he attacked me. An hour-and-a-half it was, he kept

:31:26. > :31:30.coming back and taking chunks off me; I lost my left arm, nearly lost

:31:31. > :31:36.my right arm, he ripped a hole in my back, took muscle from my leg. Not a

:31:37. > :31:43.very nice experience in all. Did you fear he was going to kill you? Yes.

:31:44. > :31:48.I knew that if he could have got my throat, that would have been the end

:31:49. > :31:53.of me. So you did everything you could to protect your throat which

:31:54. > :31:58.saved your life potentially? Yes, yes, I stayed on my front and just

:31:59. > :32:02.tried to keep the dog calm because, if you panic in that sort of

:32:03. > :32:06.situation, because I worked with dogs I knew if I panicked any more

:32:07. > :32:10.than I was, he would have got into more of a frenzy and ripped me even

:32:11. > :32:14.harder. Oh, you said it was a dog that had

:32:15. > :32:20.been brought into the kennels, what did you know about what had happened

:32:21. > :32:27.to that dog prior to coming to you? To be honest with you, not a lot.

:32:28. > :32:30.But after the accident happened, we later discovered the dog had been

:32:31. > :32:33.chipped and had belonged to a lady who was banned from owning and

:32:34. > :32:40.breeding dangerous dogs and the police had taken her to court, she'd

:32:41. > :32:43.gone through all the trial, they'd decided she couldn't keep dogs any

:32:44. > :32:47.longer, but instead of taking the dogs from her, they left it to her

:32:48. > :32:51.to get rid of the dogs, and from what we can gather, she just

:32:52. > :32:59.released them into the streets and that's how they came to me. Do you

:33:00. > :33:03.think any dog or any certain breeds can turn like this, or does it come

:33:04. > :33:08.down to the way they have been handled and treated? 99% of the

:33:09. > :33:13.time, there's not a bad dog, it's a bad owner.

:33:14. > :33:17.So what do you think about the idea that sentences will be increased for

:33:18. > :33:24.owners of dangerous dogs who have trained that dog to be aggressive?

:33:25. > :33:27.If they can prosecute the owner before the dog's attacked somebody,

:33:28. > :33:31.I think it's a good law. But if the dog has already killed somebody or

:33:32. > :33:36.badly maimed them, it's like shutting the door after the horse

:33:37. > :33:41.has bolted, it's too late. I know you have said previously you

:33:42. > :33:47.have likened dog ownership to gun ownership, what do you mean by that?

:33:48. > :33:56.Sorry? You have previously likened dog ownership to gun ownership, what

:33:57. > :33:59.do you mean by that? Yes, yes. Well, they police guns strongly, but when

:34:00. > :34:04.it comes to dogs, police are aware of where the dogs are and who the

:34:05. > :34:08.owners are, but there's nothing being done about it, nothing. Until

:34:09. > :34:13.it's too late and the dogs attack somebody. Malcolm, you are chair of

:34:14. > :34:17.the Magistrates Association, the new guidelines, how will they be

:34:18. > :34:25.applied, what difference will they make? Parliament updated the law in

:34:26. > :34:30.2014 and the new guidelines from the Sentencing Council are coming into

:34:31. > :34:37.effect as of the 1st July but are being published today. They have the

:34:38. > :34:40.effect of giving us guidance as to how we should sentence under the new

:34:41. > :34:46.penalties which are significantly more severe. As you said in the

:34:47. > :34:51.introduction, they extend the law in various areas like private houses

:34:52. > :34:58.and so on. Give us some examples of sentencing then and what difference

:34:59. > :35:02.it could make? Well, the two major areas are firstly the new areas

:35:03. > :35:06.which have been brought into the offences which are where attacks

:35:07. > :35:10.occur on private property, it clarifies the position on that and

:35:11. > :35:15.specifically makes an offence of where an attack takes place on a

:35:16. > :35:17.guide dog which everybody can appreciate has significant

:35:18. > :35:21.consequences, almost unimaginable consequences for the person who is

:35:22. > :35:26.absolutely dependent upon that guide dog. Many of the most severe cases

:35:27. > :35:31.will of course go to the crown court and be dealt with by judge and jury,

:35:32. > :35:36.so magistrates will typically be dealing with the less serious. But

:35:37. > :35:41.quite often more numerous numbers of offences that we see before us.

:35:42. > :35:44.Do these changes that magistrates have wanted to see -- have these

:35:45. > :35:50.changes that magistrates have wanted to see? It's not more members of the

:35:51. > :35:54.judiciary to call for changes in the law, but certainly, I have no

:35:55. > :36:00.evidence to suggest there is any resistance to them and I think some

:36:01. > :36:08.people have felt frustrated probably in the past. But, as your previous

:36:09. > :36:12.person said, of course, we get into the process as members of the

:36:13. > :36:16.judiciary at the point where an attack has occurred and so there is

:36:17. > :36:24.a certain amount of closing the stable door. But we do have to, as a

:36:25. > :36:27.society, recognise that certain actions deserve punishment.

:36:28. > :36:33.How much flexibility has there been in terms of the punishment? Well,

:36:34. > :36:36.there is always a flexibility and the judiciary welcomes that because

:36:37. > :36:41.each individual circumstance is different. That's why they're

:36:42. > :36:45.guidelines and not tram lines as colleagues often say. But they give

:36:46. > :36:51.you a starting point, they give you a way to approach in a structured

:36:52. > :36:58.way making your decision in order that magistrates can inform victims,

:36:59. > :37:02.defendants, society, as a hole, as to whey we think that's the

:37:03. > :37:06.appropriate sentence. Mandy, as you both pointed out, the sentencing

:37:07. > :37:10.guidelines at the point after which a dog has carried out an attack,

:37:11. > :37:15.what do you think would make a difference in trying to prevent

:37:16. > :37:20.attacks? This is what I think we need to do - it's about prevention,

:37:21. > :37:25.it's better than cure. There are people out there that have known

:37:26. > :37:29.aggressive dogs and, in my mind, they should be seized, they should

:37:30. > :37:35.be tested and, if they are as aggressive as we think and know they

:37:36. > :37:40.are, they should be destroyed. But that owner will probably go out and

:37:41. > :37:44.get the same type of dog again. They need to bring something in to

:37:45. > :37:49.prevent this, rather than cure it. Malcolm, how common are cases like

:37:50. > :37:52.this in magistrates courts? Evidence is they are getting more common.

:37:53. > :37:55.Does that mean there are more dangerous dogs or does it mean the

:37:56. > :37:58.prosecuting authorities are being more acidious in bringing such

:37:59. > :38:02.matters to court rather than either not dealing with them at all or

:38:03. > :38:08.dealing with them in an alternative way. Parliament's said that we

:38:09. > :38:11.should be considering these as a society more seriously than we have

:38:12. > :38:15.in the past so the judiciary has a role to play when matters are

:38:16. > :38:19.brought to the court. We will obviously follow and enforce the

:38:20. > :38:22.guidelines that are shortly to be in place which recognise that these

:38:23. > :38:24.matters are more serious than previously society deemed them to

:38:25. > :38:29.be. Thank you both very much, Malcolm

:38:30. > :38:39.and Mandy. Now, Paul Daniels was 77 and had

:38:40. > :38:44.been diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumour last month. Lots of

:38:45. > :38:48.reaction on social media. Scott Penrose tweets, a sad day for the

:38:49. > :39:36.magic world, rest in peace, our friend Paul Daniels.

:39:37. > :39:42.That is just about all from all of us today. We'll leave you with a

:39:43. > :39:43.reminder of how Paul Daniels entertained millions of people. See

:39:44. > :40:38.you tomorrow. You will have been stand thering

:40:39. > :40:42.with a pack of cards that you have actually been holding from the start

:40:43. > :40:48.of the trick. It's been rapped around several times with red, white

:40:49. > :40:52.and blue ribbon which we have been saving up since somebody's Jubilee

:40:53. > :40:56.and you will find that if you unwrap this now, you will see in this half

:40:57. > :40:59.of the pack which is just a pack of cards, that is all, you will see in

:41:00. > :41:03.this half of the pack there's a jack of spades, eight of diamonds, seven

:41:04. > :41:08.of diamonds, ace of spades, the eight of hearts, the two of hearts,

:41:09. > :41:12.ten of clubs, nine of clubs, nine of hearts, two of spades, King of

:41:13. > :41:16.spades, Queen of diamonds, King of hearts, jack of haars, ace of club,

:41:17. > :41:20.six of hearts, five of clubs, four of diamonds, three of spades and

:41:21. > :41:24.your card last but by no means least the seven of clubs and I know that

:41:25. > :41:27.not only you saw your cards but I know that the people who thought of

:41:28. > :41:36.a card at home will have seen their card and that's magicment. -- magic.

:41:37. > :41:40.Tonight we are going to ring the changes and do something different

:41:41. > :41:41.for you. The things kids and grown-ups dream of but never ever

:41:42. > :41:51.get the chance to do. # It's a fantasy everybody needs

:41:52. > :41:54.# Every now and then you know # Yes tonight we are going to ring

:41:55. > :41:57.the changes # Tonight you are going to see the

:41:58. > :42:01.greatest show. # In fact, roll up, roll up ladies

:42:02. > :42:06.and gentlemen because tonight # Paul Daniel's show is pleased to

:42:07. > :42:13.present for you, the human cannon ball, the sensation of the universe,

:42:14. > :42:14.Debra will be appearing later, so will jumbo junior, the elephant

:42:15. > :42:31.wonder. Later in the show ladies and

:42:32. > :42:33.gentlemen in the circus we'll present the clown cavalry laughs

:42:34. > :42:51.galore in funny disguises. # Yes, tonight

:42:52. > :42:56.# We are putting on a circus # Putting on a circus for you

:42:57. > :42:59.# Tonight we are putting on a circus # We are doing things that circus

:43:00. > :43:05.people do # It's a fantasy everybody needs

:43:06. > :43:08.# Every now and then you know # Yes, tonight, we are putting on a

:43:09. > :43:12.circus # Tonight we are gonna see the

:43:13. > :43:18.greatest show! # . Tonight, ladies and gentlemen,

:43:19. > :43:23.descending into the centre of the ring, the lovely Debra, the Queen of

:43:24. > :43:27.the air, my gentlemen assistants will cover the young lady from

:43:28. > :43:30.head-to-toe, but at all times please keep your eye on her lovely costume,

:43:31. > :43:34.ladies and gentlemen. Now, having got her covered from head-to-toe,

:43:35. > :43:38.I'll tell you what we are going to do, we are going to move the young

:43:39. > :43:42.lady back up into space where she came from. Take her away higher and

:43:43. > :43:47.higher and then she ascends above the circus ring, watch very closely.

:43:48. > :43:52.Three, two, one! Go!