23/03/2016

:00:00. > :00:08.Hello, it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:09. > :00:13.Two suicide bombers who blew themselves up at Brussels airport

:00:14. > :00:17.have been identified as brothers who police were already searching

:00:18. > :00:22.for over links to the Paris attacks suspect, Salah Abdeslam.

:00:23. > :00:26.The third failed airport bomber has been named - he's on the run

:00:27. > :00:34.So-called Islamic State says it carried out the attacks.

:00:35. > :00:36.A bomb, chemicals and an IS flag have been found

:00:37. > :00:41.Brussels is in mourning - with tributes coming in for the 34

:00:42. > :00:50.people murdered in those attacks on the airport and metro system.

:00:51. > :00:58.We are fine, as a family, we are not injured, we are not hurt. It was

:00:59. > :01:03.very scary but we are lucky. Some people did not make it and our

:01:04. > :01:07.thoughts should go with them. I am Jon Kay reporting live from

:01:08. > :01:13.Brussels, as this city tries to come to terms with what has happened. The

:01:14. > :01:20.first victim has been named, a mother of two young twins.

:01:21. > :01:24.Two of the men thought to have been behind yesterday's bombings

:01:25. > :01:27.at the airport in Brussels have been named by Belgian state media

:01:28. > :01:32.as two brothers - Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui -

:01:33. > :01:38.Both are believed to have died in the two airport explosions,

:01:39. > :01:44.A third man thought to be involved in the airport bombings,

:01:45. > :01:47.who is still on the run, has been named by state media

:01:48. > :02:06.Yes, Victoria, this is a capital city. It is the centre of European

:02:07. > :02:11.Union decision-making, but it feels in parts like a village. There is

:02:12. > :02:17.hardly anybody out. The trends are empty, the Metro is not running. The

:02:18. > :02:20.main airport remains closed. This square has become a centre of quite

:02:21. > :02:25.reflection where people have been coming in their thousands on their

:02:26. > :02:29.way to work, or maybe they are not working this morning, to light

:02:30. > :02:35.candles, leave flowers and even flowers in Belgian beer bottles, to

:02:36. > :02:41.hug and gather one another and reflect. A lot of people have told

:02:42. > :02:46.me over the last few hours, that they expected something like this to

:02:47. > :02:49.happen in Brussels, after the Paris terror attacks, knowing there were

:02:50. > :02:54.links to this city and knowing there were raids over the last few months

:02:55. > :02:59.and days. Nothing could prepare them for the reality of what we saw

:03:00. > :03:06.24-hour is a go. You can hear drills going. This is still a functioning

:03:07. > :03:09.city but somebody said to me earlier, this does not feel like the

:03:10. > :03:10.same place. It will be a long time before it does. Let's get the latest

:03:11. > :03:28.now from Richard Lister. Three men in the airport. Suicide

:03:29. > :03:33.bombers about to strike. This man, named in Belgian media as Najim

:03:34. > :03:38.Laachraoui did not blow himself up and is on the run. He left this

:03:39. > :03:48.behind him. Smoke, chaos and death at one of Europe's Mac be --

:03:49. > :03:52.Europe's busiest airports. There was a second bombing at this station.

:03:53. > :04:00.These commuters were caught underground, unlucky, if terrifying

:04:01. > :04:03.escape. After a tip-off from a taxi driver, police raided a flat

:04:04. > :04:09.uncovering a nail bomb, chemicals and the flag of the so-called

:04:10. > :04:14.Islamic State. Brussels is a city on edge. Security has been stepped up

:04:15. > :04:17.and not just at the European institutions based here. Everyone

:04:18. > :04:24.this morning is wondering about what happens next. Yesterday I was seeing

:04:25. > :04:28.on Twitter somebody said we should kill all Muslims, so indeed this

:04:29. > :04:33.anti-Ms Lynn sentiment really increases. But what we need to

:04:34. > :04:37.understand is to unite against these terrorists. There is already evident

:04:38. > :04:41.urging that Najim Laachraoui on the right is linked to the Paris terror

:04:42. > :04:52.attacks. He is now the most wanted man in Europe.

:04:53. > :05:01.All-night people have gathered here. This has become a focal point. It is

:05:02. > :05:08.a very sombre, but I think a workmanlike attitude as well here.

:05:09. > :05:13.People a to prove that life does go on, and despite the fact that so

:05:14. > :05:16.many people are connected in some way to what happened, either knows

:05:17. > :05:20.someone who was caught up in it or know someone who is missing or died,

:05:21. > :05:25.they are determined not just to show their solidarity and defiance, but

:05:26. > :05:29.to get on with the realities of everyday life, as you can hear from

:05:30. > :05:33.the drills which are still going, as the people here remind you of what

:05:34. > :05:40.has happened on their doorstep. Jon Kay life in Brussels.

:05:41. > :05:42.The Foreign Office has warned people travelling to Belgium to remain

:05:43. > :05:44.vigilant and stay away from crowded areas.

:05:45. > :05:46.It says two Britons were wounded in the attacks.

:05:47. > :05:49.Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an IT programmer

:05:50. > :05:50.from Nottingham, who is missing in Brussels.

:05:51. > :05:53.A family friend told the BBC that his partner Charlotte Sutcliffe

:05:54. > :05:57.has been searching the city's hospitals for him.

:05:58. > :05:59.Charlotte is desperately trying to find him.

:06:00. > :06:06.Trying desperately to find out where he is, and make contact

:06:07. > :06:09.with him, but he hasn't made contact with her at all.

:06:10. > :06:13.She's very worried, she's desperately searching for him,

:06:14. > :06:15.and if anyone can help, then please let us know.

:06:16. > :06:22.He's an amazing man, who deeply, deeply loves his son,

:06:23. > :06:32.David Cameron will chair a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

:06:33. > :06:35.committee this morning to consider how the UK should respond

:06:36. > :06:39.Norman Smith is following developments

:06:40. > :06:54.Specifically, what will they be discussing? Well, I think the Cobra

:06:55. > :06:58.meeting has just finished. I saw Theresa May, the Home Secretary,

:06:59. > :07:03.just coming out. We should get an update on whether there are any

:07:04. > :07:08.British fatalities or injured. We have heard two injured. My senses

:07:09. > :07:11.these are not critical injuries. In terms of David Dixon, when I spoke

:07:12. > :07:16.to folk at them attend this morning, they did not have any detail about

:07:17. > :07:22.his whereabouts. We may get more information shortly. In broad terms,

:07:23. > :07:26.what Mr Cameron will be doing will be looking at the security

:07:27. > :07:32.arrangements put in place yesterday, which involved more visible presence

:07:33. > :07:36.of police, more controls, checks and sniffer dogs at airports and ports,

:07:37. > :07:41.but broadly, we are being told that people should be alert but not

:07:42. > :07:47.alarmed. At the moment, there is no suggestion of any direct link with

:07:48. > :07:53.the attacks in Brussels, and the threat in Britain. The threat level

:07:54. > :07:57.here remains the same. One other issue is whether there is any

:07:58. > :08:02.controversy over remarks from some politicians in the wake of the

:08:03. > :08:04.attack, particularly Ukip politicians, who have sought to

:08:05. > :08:11.suggest that the attacks were to some extent fuelled by lax EU

:08:12. > :08:16.migration rules. We had from the Ukip leader Nigel Farage overnight

:08:17. > :08:20.saying free movement equals free movement of Kalashnikovs. I think

:08:21. > :08:24.that will cause some disquiet and certainly, both the Prime Minister

:08:25. > :08:28.and the Home Secretary yesterday appealed to politicians not to use

:08:29. > :08:30.this attack in any way to do further arguments in the EU referendum

:08:31. > :08:35.campaign. Annita is in the BBC Newsroom,

:08:36. > :08:38.with more on this story, and a summary of the rest

:08:39. > :08:41.of the day's news. A review examining how

:08:42. > :08:50.South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

:08:51. > :08:53.exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

:08:54. > :08:55.failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

:08:56. > :08:57.progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

:08:58. > :09:00.more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

:09:01. > :09:02.the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

:09:03. > :09:06.for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

:09:07. > :09:07.have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

:09:08. > :09:12.Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:09:13. > :09:13.election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:09:14. > :09:16.for either of them - they look likely to lose

:09:17. > :09:18.their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:09:19. > :09:24.Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

:09:25. > :09:27.today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

:09:28. > :09:31.the loss making retailer may go into administration,

:09:32. > :09:33.putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

:09:34. > :09:43.deficit of ?571 million. Prince Harry's tour of Nepal comes

:09:44. > :09:47.to an end later today. He'll finish his visit by opening

:09:48. > :09:49.an event aimed at promoting gender equality and discouraging child

:09:50. > :09:54.marriage in Nepalese society. Nicholas Witchell is

:09:55. > :10:07.on the trip with the Prince. He has spent three days now learning

:10:08. > :10:11.about Nepal. He has been out at dawn to watch the sunrise over the

:10:12. > :10:16.Himalayas, after spending the night at a small Gurkha village. He has

:10:17. > :10:22.received Garland after Garland of welcome. In another Gurkha village,

:10:23. > :10:29.he joined in celebrations for the Hindu celebration, having his face

:10:30. > :10:35.painted bright red. A visit which has also had a serious purpose.

:10:36. > :10:38.Harry paid tribute to the Gurkha soldiers who have given their lives

:10:39. > :10:44.in the service of Britain, and he has expressed its solidarity with

:10:45. > :10:51.Nepal as the country commemorates the earthquake last year. Today, he

:10:52. > :10:57.will turn to another issue in Nepal in society, the issue of women. He

:10:58. > :11:01.will attend a summit with the president, a woman.

:11:02. > :11:04.Conservationists say they found 160 plastic bottles for every mile

:11:05. > :11:05.of British coastline their volunteers cleaned last year.

:11:06. > :11:08.The Marine Conservation Society said the number had risen by 43%

:11:09. > :11:14.The charity is calling for deposit return schemes

:11:15. > :11:17.That's a summary of the latest BBC News -

:11:18. > :11:30.Thank you. Throughout the programme we will keep you up-to-date with the

:11:31. > :11:34.latest developments from Brussels. Let's get some sport now,

:11:35. > :11:36.with Chris, and we're less than an hour away from an important

:11:37. > :11:44.match for England's cricketers. We are indeed. England play

:11:45. > :11:49.Afghanistan at the T20 World Cup. A win for them will move them a step

:11:50. > :11:55.closer to a place in the semifinals. England won their opener but

:11:56. > :12:02.dramatically beat South Africa. Joe Wilson reports. England's

:12:03. > :12:05.victory in their last game at the world T20 really restored their

:12:06. > :12:10.credibility, the remarkable run chase against South Africa. But here

:12:11. > :12:15.in Delhi, they face a different challenge, taking on a nation where

:12:16. > :12:20.cricket is really booming. It was Afghan refugees in Pakistan who

:12:21. > :12:23.first picked up cricket. Here there is a well-established Afghani

:12:24. > :12:26.community where you can see traditional bread-making

:12:27. > :12:30.restaurants. As for the cricket team, they played two matches in

:12:31. > :12:41.this tournament, lost both but played well. Afghanistan not just

:12:42. > :12:43.here to create goodwill they have two matches left to create a good

:12:44. > :12:46.impression, starting with England. The focus is on a win. At least one

:12:47. > :12:50.win, whether it is England or the West Indies. We are trying at least

:12:51. > :12:56.to play good cricket and win the match, not just play good cricket.

:12:57. > :13:01.It is our fourth World Cup T20 and the last World Cup we did not

:13:02. > :13:07.perform. A very destructive side, certainly with the way they bat. We

:13:08. > :13:11.get a lot of footage from everybody. Playing them as a nation in the past

:13:12. > :13:16.is not what they used to be. Certainly watching a lot of them, we

:13:17. > :13:22.have an idea of the game plans they hold. In cricketing terms, England

:13:23. > :13:27.have demonstrated they have power, but can they exert control? Even in

:13:28. > :13:32.2020, especially here in India, there is a need for subtlety.

:13:33. > :13:41.England's women are already closing in on a place in the last four. They

:13:42. > :13:45.beat the tournament hosts India. A great catch coming up. Katherine

:13:46. > :13:54.Brunt with the sticky fingers underneath. India only making 90

:13:55. > :14:01.from their 20 overs. It was tight. They play the West Indies tomorrow.

:14:02. > :14:08.The Wales manager Chris Coleman says he is not fearful for his own, or

:14:09. > :14:11.his players safety at Euro 2016, following the attacks in Brussels.

:14:12. > :14:15.Uefa has said they will take all necessary measures to make sure the

:14:16. > :14:20.tournament in France is safe and secure. There have been lots of

:14:21. > :14:25.terrorist attacks, unfortunately, and there is always a doubt in the

:14:26. > :14:29.back of your mind. Do I feel safe going to the tournament? Yes, I know

:14:30. > :14:34.Uefa have worked really hard to make sure everything is OK for the

:14:35. > :14:39.tournament. Hopefully, the tournament goes ahead, I'm sure it

:14:40. > :14:43.will do, and I'm sure it will be a good one.

:14:44. > :14:46.And the new women's Super League season gets under way later. I will

:14:47. > :14:49.be speaking to Isabel Kristiansen just after ten o'clock about that.

:14:50. > :14:53.Thank you. "They took away everything" -

:14:54. > :14:56.the words of the husband of one of the women killed in yesterday's

:14:57. > :14:58.deadly attacks in Brussels. Adelma Marina Tapia Ruiz

:14:59. > :15:01.is the first of the 34 victims Her husband and twin four-year

:15:02. > :15:12.old daughters were unhurt because they left the area

:15:13. > :15:15.in the airport moments before Police in Belgium are now searching

:15:16. > :15:18.for the failed airport bomber walking alongside two brothers

:15:19. > :15:23.who blew themselves and others up, in the departure hall at Brussels

:15:24. > :15:27.international airport. He's been named locally as 24 year

:15:28. > :15:30.old Najim Lachrauio - he's suspected of being responsible

:15:31. > :15:32.for the bombs used in the Paris massacre in November after his DNA

:15:33. > :15:36.was found on suicide belts used at the Bataclan Theatre

:15:37. > :15:43.and the Stade deFrance. In this picture, he's seen pushing

:15:44. > :15:46.a luggage trolley with a suitcase thought to have contained a bomb

:15:47. > :15:51.that did not explode. The other two men in this picture

:15:52. > :15:54.have been named as brothers Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui who are also

:15:55. > :15:57.thought to be known to police. The Islamic State group says it

:15:58. > :16:03.carried out the attacks. A bomb, chemicals and an IS flag

:16:04. > :16:06.have been found at a house 34 people died and more than two

:16:07. > :16:13.hundred others were wounded in the blasts at the airport

:16:14. > :16:43.and at a metro station. Stay down. Stay down. People started

:16:44. > :16:46.panicking and running. The only thing I saw was just dust in the

:16:47. > :16:52.air. People were running for their lives. There were some announcements

:16:53. > :16:56.that something had gone wrong. The woman's voice was like quite shaken

:16:57. > :17:07.on the intercom and that's when I know we should move.

:17:08. > :17:10.Did you see or hear the explosion? No, but I walked through a mess,

:17:11. > :17:15.glass, metal, smoke, water dripping from the ceiling. We had to walk

:17:16. > :17:30.through puddles and we were evacuated.

:17:31. > :17:39.We felt a small blast of air. And we heard some thudding in the distance.

:17:40. > :17:43.The metro immediately stopped. The lights turned off. The engine turned

:17:44. > :17:46.off. After a few minutes someone came and had us evacuate on to the

:17:47. > :18:02.tracks and walk back to the metro station.

:18:03. > :18:11.This tragic moment, this black moment in our country and never

:18:12. > :18:15.before I would like to call on everybody to show calmness and

:18:16. > :18:18.solidarity. These are difficult times. These are appalling

:18:19. > :18:22.terrorists, but we must stand together to do everything we can to

:18:23. > :18:33.stop them and make sure that although they attack our way our

:18:34. > :18:40.life and they attack us because of who we were we are we will not let

:18:41. > :19:02.them win. It is the whole world that's concerned with this.

:19:03. > :19:07.We are just hearing the Home Secretary, Theresa May, is due to

:19:08. > :19:11.make a statement later. We will bring that to you live when it

:19:12. > :19:16.happens. Gavin Lee is at Brussels International Airport this morning.

:19:17. > :19:20.Gavin. Well, I am as far as you can get to

:19:21. > :19:23.the kiss and fly zone where families say goodbye to their loved ones

:19:24. > :19:31.before they get to the departures lounge, 400 meters from here and

:19:32. > :19:33.right now police, army officers and special forces operatives are

:19:34. > :19:36.walking around the perimeter saying you can only go through if you are

:19:37. > :19:42.part of the investigation team and part of the forensic team given the

:19:43. > :19:47.wreckage in the departure lounge, debris over the floor. There has

:19:48. > :19:49.been an update in terms of the investigation coming from

:19:50. > :19:56.intelligence officers it seems to the State media who are reporting

:19:57. > :20:00.the two men, the two bombers inside the hall were brothers, called the

:20:01. > :20:03.el-Bakraoui brothers, Khalid and Ibrahim el-Bakraoui. They were said

:20:04. > :20:06.to be accomplices of Salah Abdelsalam, arrested in this raid on

:20:07. > :20:13.Friday. The missing Paris suspect. We have also heard in the last half

:20:14. > :20:19.an hour of this third suspect on the run, who, he has been named in the

:20:20. > :20:24.last half an hour again by Belgian state media as Najim Laachraoui.

:20:25. > :20:27.This is someone who was seen with Salah Abdelsalam two months before

:20:28. > :20:32.the Paris attacks of the he is said to be a known bomb maker. His images

:20:33. > :20:39.fit according to intelligence sources of the image of a man issued

:20:40. > :20:43.on a photo ID. This morning, let me bring you up-to-date, people coming

:20:44. > :20:51.out from the airport, many said they were forced to spend the night at

:20:52. > :20:56.the sher ra tonne Hotel. This Anita. Tell me about what happened to you

:20:57. > :21:01.in the last 24 hours. Sure. I was at the hotel attending a conference and

:21:02. > :21:04.the first inkling I had that something terrible happened when I

:21:05. > :21:08.went to the meeting area and I ran into a gentleman and he said he was

:21:09. > :21:13.accosted by a woman who looked panicked and she was yelling and

:21:14. > :21:17.screaming in French. She said in English, "Don't go out. Don't go

:21:18. > :21:22.out. There have been two expositions." He saw another lady

:21:23. > :21:27.coming in with her forehead bleeding. We saw a steady flow of

:21:28. > :21:31.people coming in, they set-up a triage centre, they were bringing in

:21:32. > :21:37.empty stretchers and wheeling out people with minor injuries and arms

:21:38. > :21:41.bandaged up and around shortly after lunch 1.30pm, we were all told to go

:21:42. > :21:48.to the back of the hotel into a ballroom and to stand right back at

:21:49. > :21:52.the wall and a policeman came in and he said there maybe another

:21:53. > :21:55.explosion, a controlled one and of course, we all became very nervous

:21:56. > :22:01.because by that point we thought we were safe. And we stood there more

:22:02. > :22:05.about 10 or 15 minutes and another gentleman came in and said, "Please

:22:06. > :22:10.stay here. There is another suspicious item that's been found."

:22:11. > :22:15.After ten minutes we were allowed to go up to our rooms and we wondered

:22:16. > :22:18.whether it was the third bomb, the so-called controlled explosion. You

:22:19. > :22:21.were telling me a moment ago, when people were being treated in the

:22:22. > :22:25.triage, you were spaking to some of these people. Tell me about what you

:22:26. > :22:28.were hearing? Where the people were from and what injuries they had?

:22:29. > :22:31.There was a woman who was visiting Brussels for the first time from

:22:32. > :22:35.Malaysia. She was there with her special needs son and when the bomb

:22:36. > :22:40.went off, she told me that her son said, "I can't move. My leg hurts."

:22:41. > :22:44.He hadn't been injured, he was so panicked, so she dragged him out and

:22:45. > :22:49.took him into the hotel and the saddest most heartbreaking case was

:22:50. > :22:53.a woman I spoke to after eight hours after the explosion and she was

:22:54. > :22:58.sitting in the hotel ballroom, she had left her mother on a row of

:22:59. > :23:02.seats and gone to buy a ticket. And then she heard the blast and when

:23:03. > :23:08.she came back, she saw fires raging in front of the Delta KLM counter

:23:09. > :23:12.and on the row of seats where her mother was supposed to be, her

:23:13. > :23:18.mother was not there, but her mother's seat was clean, there was

:23:19. > :23:23.not a drop of blood, there was lots parts of the ceiling which had

:23:24. > :23:26.fallen down and she wondered if her mother was under one of the bits of

:23:27. > :23:30.ceiling. On Twitter I have had so many people saying they are looking

:23:31. > :23:33.for loved ones, please retweet and for you as well, I have spoke to

:23:34. > :23:38.many people in the hotel who said they were spoken to by intelligence

:23:39. > :23:44.officers and given a debrief, were you spoken to as well? My identity

:23:45. > :23:46.papers were checked and yes, I know there were members of the

:23:47. > :23:51.conference, there were people who had rooms overlooking the airport

:23:52. > :23:58.and I think there was someone in the conference group that actually saw

:23:59. > :24:01.the third bomber runaway and took a photo and this person was

:24:02. > :24:05.interviewed by the security officials and the photo was handed

:24:06. > :24:09.over. I know you are trying to sort out what you are going to do next in

:24:10. > :24:13.Brussels, thank you Anita. The other thing briefly to mention to you,

:24:14. > :24:16.Victoria is how many people around here have gone to help at a local

:24:17. > :24:20.sports hall where people are staying, it is a reception centre

:24:21. > :24:23.for those with nowhere to stay in Brussels, they are helping with

:24:24. > :24:27.food, water and basics and saying we have got rooms in our holes and

:24:28. > :24:31.please stay. A lot of Italians and Portuguese have been taking many

:24:32. > :24:37.volunteers up on that offer. STUDIO: Thank you, Gavin. Gavin Lee.

:24:38. > :24:40.We can talk now to Guy Trouvey who is the Belgian Ambassador

:24:41. > :24:49.Why does Belgium seem to have such a problem with extremists? Why

:24:50. > :24:54.Belgium? Well, we have problems. We are not the only ones, but we indeed

:24:55. > :24:58.have problems now. We have this phenomenon that we have been

:24:59. > :25:02.documenting now for years and we have been trying to contain which is

:25:03. > :25:06.the story of these young men and women who go and fight in Syria and

:25:07. > :25:14.come back with weapons, training, explosives training. But why so many

:25:15. > :25:19.from Belgium? Well, this is something maybe that a sociologist

:25:20. > :25:23.could answer you, but it is true that from one particular community

:25:24. > :25:27.there is a large number and I would say one particular community because

:25:28. > :25:32.you cannot put all Muslims in the same bag and the huge majority of

:25:33. > :25:38.Muslims living in Belgium are doing extremely well. Are integrated, but

:25:39. > :25:43.you have indeed, this minute group of three, four, five hundred people

:25:44. > :25:49.who have been to Syria, some of them have passed away there, others have

:25:50. > :25:53.come back and they are now fighting, they are ji hads in Europe. It is

:25:54. > :25:57.Belgium, it is France, it could be elsewhere.

:25:58. > :26:01.What is your Government's theory about why they are apparently

:26:02. > :26:06.thriving in this particular part of your capital city? Well, because

:26:07. > :26:10.that's where most of them, you know, it started, again as I said, I am

:26:11. > :26:17.not a specialist, but I can tell you that it may have started with groups

:26:18. > :26:22.of young men who started little gangs, petty criminality. They were

:26:23. > :26:26.closely tied to one another and decided at one point for reasons

:26:27. > :26:31.that would take I would say hours to explain, decided to go on this Jihad

:26:32. > :26:33.path. The connections were there. The community connections were

:26:34. > :26:44.there. The family connections were there. Again, I say within the town

:26:45. > :26:48.of Molenbeek, now it has become famous, we may as well mention the

:26:49. > :26:52.name, these chaps had the possibility of finding refuge and

:26:53. > :26:57.why did they go to Syria? This is the, I would say the topic of many

:26:58. > :27:01.debates? You have economic issue, maybe you have the religion, you

:27:02. > :27:04.have the fact that they were trying to redeem themselves and finding a

:27:05. > :27:09.reason to fight, but you have to say also that there is a terrible thing

:27:10. > :27:14.going on in Syria that can easily mobilise when you see the images of

:27:15. > :27:18.what is going on there, you can easily mobilise people or weaker

:27:19. > :27:24.spirits to go and fight over there. We have heard this morning that

:27:25. > :27:28.potentially the two brothers behind some of the explosions yesterday

:27:29. > :27:33.were known to your police service. How much does that alarm you? Well,

:27:34. > :27:37.to be honest, we have hundreds of names. We have hundreds of names. So

:27:38. > :27:42.we are alarmed. We are alarmed. It happens that this particular group,

:27:43. > :27:45.tied probably to the Paris attacks, are now the focus of everybody's

:27:46. > :27:52.attention, but there are hundreds of names. But, sorry to interrupt, you

:27:53. > :27:56.have the main suspect from the Paris terrorist attacks in your custody

:27:57. > :28:00.and yet this still happened days after he was arrested? Because he

:28:01. > :28:08.was arrested, but the rest of the group was not. So you have had, you

:28:09. > :28:11.know, you have besides the, when Salah Abdelsalam was arrested we

:28:12. > :28:16.said quickly, very quickly, the Prime Minister himself said this is

:28:17. > :28:21.a victory, but we realise that it is not over. That others are out there.

:28:22. > :28:25.That we still have a threat and in fact, we kept the lel of threat to a

:28:26. > :28:29.very high level because we thought when we said that attacks were

:28:30. > :28:34.plausible, unfortunately... Not imminent? We would say plausible,

:28:35. > :28:37.imminent, you never know. If we would have known it was imminent we

:28:38. > :28:41.could have arrested them. These are professionals. These are people who

:28:42. > :28:50.had the time to train. They had the time to I would say organise their

:28:51. > :28:54.logistics in the country. Yes, it is regrettable, but now the issue for

:28:55. > :28:57.us is not so much, is pinpointing what happened in the past, we have

:28:58. > :29:03.to see what we can do now and the good news here is the commitment we

:29:04. > :29:09.have received from our neighbouring countries, stopping the bickering

:29:10. > :29:13.and finger pointing and now we have solid commitments from France, from

:29:14. > :29:15.the UK, as we heard your Prime Minister, and I think this is

:29:16. > :29:20.something that we have to do together. To do together, fair

:29:21. > :29:24.enough, that is clearly a good thing, but are your intelligence

:29:25. > :29:28.services up to the job? They are, we hear this criticism. We

:29:29. > :29:34.think that... Do you accept it? We accept it maybe to a certain point,

:29:35. > :29:40.but what we can say also is that we have been over the years increasing

:29:41. > :29:45.our commitment to fight at both in terms of financial means and also

:29:46. > :29:48.recruitment of policemen, but this is a relatively new phenomenon, this

:29:49. > :29:53.is something that we had to face, that we haven't been facing before.

:29:54. > :29:58.So we are still in the beginning of this struggle and we are trying to

:29:59. > :30:02.do the best we can. We had success last year in stopping and foiling an

:30:03. > :30:05.attempt. We have foiled other attempts, but you know, the rule of

:30:06. > :30:08.the game is, you can noul nine attempts, but if the tenth goes on,

:30:09. > :30:11.that's the only one that people are tacking about.

:30:12. > :30:14.Thank you very much for talking to us this morning. Thank you.

:30:15. > :30:23.The Belgian ambassador to the UK. Two of the men thought to have been

:30:24. > :30:25.behind yesterday's bombings at the airport in Brussels have been

:30:26. > :30:30.named by Belgian state media as two brothers - Khalid and Brahim El

:30:31. > :30:33.Bakraoui, who lived in the city. Both are believed to have died

:30:34. > :30:36.in the two airport explosions along A third man thought to be involved

:30:37. > :30:39.in the airport bombings, who is still on the run,

:30:40. > :30:56.has been named by state media The Foreign Office has warned people

:30:57. > :31:01.travelling to Belgium to remain vigilant and stay away from crowded

:31:02. > :31:06.areas. It says two British people were injured in the attacks. Concern

:31:07. > :31:10.has been expressed for David Dixon, who was in Brussels on the day of

:31:11. > :31:13.the explosions. His partner has been searching the hospitals for him.

:31:14. > :31:15.Charlotte is desperately trying to find him.

:31:16. > :31:18.She's so trying to desperately find out where he is and make

:31:19. > :31:21.But he hasn't made contact with her at all.

:31:22. > :31:23.She's very worried, she's desperately searching for him

:31:24. > :31:26.and if anyone can help, then please let us know.

:31:27. > :31:30.He's an amazing man who deeply, deeply loves his son

:31:31. > :31:50.David Cameron has chaired a meeting of the Cobra committee this morning

:31:51. > :31:53.to consider how the UK should respond to the attacks. Senior

:31:54. > :31:57.ministers, including the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond, were at

:31:58. > :31:59.the meeting. The Home Secretary Theresa May will make a statement in

:32:00. > :32:02.the Commons at 12:30pm. A review examining how

:32:03. > :32:04.South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

:32:05. > :32:07.exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

:32:08. > :32:11.failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

:32:12. > :32:14.progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

:32:15. > :32:16.more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

:32:17. > :32:19.the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

:32:20. > :32:27.for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

:32:28. > :32:28.have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

:32:29. > :32:35.Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:32:36. > :32:37.election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:32:38. > :32:40.for either of them - they look likely to lose

:32:41. > :32:43.their caucuses in Utah, where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:32:44. > :32:45.Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

:32:46. > :32:48.today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

:32:49. > :32:53.the loss making retailer may go into administration,

:32:54. > :32:54.putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

:32:55. > :33:02.deficit of ?571 million. Prince Harry's tour of Nepal comes

:33:03. > :33:06.to an end later today. He'll finish his visit by opening

:33:07. > :33:09.an event aimed at promoting gender equality and discouraging child

:33:10. > :33:13.marriage in Nepalese society. Nicholas Witchell is

:33:14. > :33:24.on the trip with the Prince. It comes as the countries rebuilding

:33:25. > :33:26.following the devastating earthquake .

:33:27. > :33:28.Conservationists say they found 160 plastic bottles for every mile

:33:29. > :33:30.of British coastline their volunteers cleaned last year.

:33:31. > :33:33.The Marine Conservation Society said the number had risen by 43%

:33:34. > :33:36.The charity is calling for deposit return schemes to try

:33:37. > :33:54.That is a summary of the latest BBC News. Moore at ten o'clock. Time for

:33:55. > :34:01.the sport now. England are on the field with one win and one defeat,

:34:02. > :34:02.playing Afghanistan. They won the toss and decided to bat.

:34:03. > :34:06.England's women made it two wins out of two with victory over the hosts

:34:07. > :34:09.Great catch from England's Katherine Brunt to help them

:34:10. > :34:18.Novak Djokovic has tried to cool the row over equal pay in tennis,

:34:19. > :34:21.saying his comment that men deserve more prize money than women

:34:22. > :34:24.were taken the wrong way and what he meant to say

:34:25. > :34:26.was the sport needed a fairer and better distribution of funds

:34:27. > :34:33.The new Women's Super League season gets under way later,

:34:34. > :34:35.with Notts County up against last season's runners-up Manchester City.

:34:36. > :34:53.I'll be back with more on that just after 10.

:34:54. > :34:56.For many the attacks in Brussels striking at the heart of the city's

:34:57. > :34:59.transport network and killing at least 34 bought back powerful

:35:00. > :35:02.memories of the 7/7 attacks in London.

:35:03. > :35:04.Paul Dadge was caught up in the July 7th bombings -

:35:05. > :35:07.many of you will remember this image of him helping an injured passenger

:35:08. > :35:19.He says the attacks yesterday have bought back all the memories of 7/7.

:35:20. > :35:25.Thank you very much for coming on the programme. Are there specific

:35:26. > :35:31.moments that come back to you when you were watching the events

:35:32. > :35:35.unfolding yesterday? For me, it would be around the attacks in the

:35:36. > :35:40.tube station. Some of the images that have emerged are striking, in

:35:41. > :35:44.terms of the similarity from 7/7. Particularly of people making their

:35:45. > :35:50.way out of the tube network, the lights, the dark tunnel, with light

:35:51. > :35:56.in the distance, seeing people emerging from the front of a tube

:35:57. > :36:00.station, being cared for by paramedics. More so than any other

:36:01. > :36:05.attack on the last ten years, I would say, very similar, so

:36:06. > :36:12.striking. I have always been somebody who has been quite good at

:36:13. > :36:15.dealing with this, and I think yesterday was a down day for me, in

:36:16. > :36:19.terms of looking at the similarities, they were so much

:36:20. > :36:26.there, anger and frustration that these killings still go on. It's ten

:36:27. > :36:30.years, coming to 11 years later. Do you remember why you helped in the

:36:31. > :36:36.way that you helped on the 7th of July 2005? For me, it was a case of

:36:37. > :36:40.common sense. There were people injured and they needed assistance.

:36:41. > :36:44.At that point, there was very little resources on the ground to give that

:36:45. > :36:48.assistance. To me, it felt the right thing to do. I think you have come

:36:49. > :36:54.across people who did not do what you did, and feel enormous guilt?

:36:55. > :36:57.Yes, the world is full of... There are people that will help, people

:36:58. > :37:01.who want to help and people who would rather stay out of the way.

:37:02. > :37:04.Particularly the people that would like to help, I know a number of

:37:05. > :37:07.people that were quite badly affected, they wanted to help, but

:37:08. > :37:14.did not feel they were able to offer any assistance. They still feel

:37:15. > :37:20.those effects to this day. How have you dealt with what you experienced

:37:21. > :37:24.on that day since? By talking, mainly, to people that were involved

:37:25. > :37:29.in the attacks, not just at Edgware Road, but at other locations that

:37:30. > :37:33.were hit in London. We have quite a close-knit community of people that

:37:34. > :37:36.are involved, and we still keep in touch online. That has been linked

:37:37. > :37:40.with other attacks that have affected the British. So, what went

:37:41. > :37:43.on recently in Turkey, on the beaches in Turkey, that has now been

:37:44. > :37:48.brought into the online community. It doesn't necessarily have to be a

:37:49. > :37:52.terrorist attack, as long as people are able to talk to each other and

:37:53. > :37:55.share experiences. For me, personally, I have never had

:37:56. > :37:59.counselling, but I found it was a lot better to build a jigsaw of what

:38:00. > :38:05.happened. What kind of help and support did you get from those in

:38:06. > :38:11.authority? I guess in the aftermath of 7/7, the week or so afterwards, I

:38:12. > :38:20.was running on adrenaline for probably a week. I had a very big

:38:21. > :38:23.down, when I came down overnight, and there was a survivors and

:38:24. > :38:26.victims Centre setup, which was really good. I hope they have

:38:27. > :38:32.something similar in Brussels. People were able to meet up, people

:38:33. > :38:36.were able to talk councillors. I was talking about this before coming

:38:37. > :38:41.here, being able to have a massage, from somebody from the Red Cross,

:38:42. > :38:48.just to help you deal with what had gone on. That centre was so good for

:38:49. > :38:52.me, in terms of being able to find my way through the weeks after the

:38:53. > :38:57.bombing. What about later on, government help? The Government, the

:38:58. > :39:01.Labour government that were in power at the time, there were very good at

:39:02. > :39:05.supporting us. We had meetings with Lord Reed and Tessa Jowell, the

:39:06. > :39:13.Culture Secretary and the Defence Secretary at the time. He eventually

:39:14. > :39:20.became Home Secretary? Yes, a number of meetings with those. We keep in

:39:21. > :39:30.touch, especially with Tessa, who was at the memorial service last

:39:31. > :39:37.year and has done great work. Lord Reid is here. What kind of support

:39:38. > :39:42.did you give people, and why was that crucial from a government point

:39:43. > :39:46.of view? It is the government response validity to do what they

:39:47. > :39:49.can to protect citizens. In the event of something as traumatic as

:39:50. > :39:55.this, to do what they can to help those that are most affected, those

:39:56. > :40:01.that have lost loved ones, those that have survived, those who have

:40:02. > :40:07.been involved in the trauma, like Paul. That is part of the job of any

:40:08. > :40:10.caring government. Unfortunately, we can't guarantee, nor can any

:40:11. > :40:23.government, that this sort of thing won't happen. They have to be honest

:40:24. > :40:26.with the British people and tell them this will happen. The

:40:27. > :40:36.terrorists only have to get through once. The terrorists will get

:40:37. > :40:39.through. You are expecting another attack, another terrorist attack in

:40:40. > :40:46.this country at some point in the future? Yes, I am. I don't think

:40:47. > :40:52.that is a secret. As you know, we are at our second-highest level of

:40:53. > :40:58.threat, which is severe, which means a terrorist attack is likely. And

:40:59. > :41:02.Britain has been at that threat level for some time? When I was at

:41:03. > :41:08.Home Secretary, it was moved up to critical. That means that it is not

:41:09. > :41:14.only likely, we have information it is imminent. It is different in the

:41:15. > :41:18.UK from Belgium, and I think you raised some difficult issues in your

:41:19. > :41:24.previous interview. At a time like this, our first thought is for the

:41:25. > :41:29.victims, our condolences and solidarity with the nations and the

:41:30. > :41:36.individuals that have been affected. You have to have a delicate and

:41:37. > :41:44.difficult time raising the security issues. Belgium has had a degree of

:41:45. > :41:53.political instability. I think it is recognised that the intelligence

:41:54. > :41:59.services are integrated now. We use the police and their relationship

:42:00. > :42:02.with the intelligence services. On the ground, in the community, you

:42:03. > :42:07.can pick up some pretty vital information. I think we are quite

:42:08. > :42:12.well resourced. Having said all of that, there is no grounds for

:42:13. > :42:21.complacency. The terrorists will try to get through, they have changed

:42:22. > :42:26.back, in a sense, 7/7, which is what we would call an attack on a soft

:42:27. > :42:30.target, and then they went for some more difficult, but more spectacular

:42:31. > :42:33.attempts, for instance when I was Home Secretary they tried to bring

:42:34. > :42:41.down seven airliners simultaneously, which would have been 2500 victims.

:42:42. > :42:47.The success of the services has been such that they have gone back to

:42:48. > :42:53.soft targets. Mumbai style targets. You will notice that, in Brussels,

:42:54. > :42:58.it was an attack on the land side, not the air side. They did not have

:42:59. > :43:03.to go through security. The metro was very similar to the attacks on

:43:04. > :43:08.7/7. These types of attacks are much more difficult for intelligence

:43:09. > :43:15.agencies, police and so on to counter, because while I don't like

:43:16. > :43:20.the expression Lone Wolf, because nobody is a lone Wolf, they draw

:43:21. > :43:28.inspiration from an ideology, sometimes abroad, the community,

:43:29. > :43:31.gangs, sometimes in prison, they are not on their own, but they are less

:43:32. > :43:37.detailed in their orders and communication, and contact with a

:43:38. > :43:42.central body abroad. It makes it much more difficult to counter. I

:43:43. > :43:47.want to ask your views, you will have heard overnight Nigel Farage,

:43:48. > :43:53.of Ukip, suggesting that the free movement of people across Europe is

:43:54. > :44:00.free movement of Kalashnikovs. What do you make of a comment like that?

:44:01. > :44:04.It is very difficult to discuss this rationally in the context of both a

:44:05. > :44:15.European referendum and the tragedy that has happened. As far as

:44:16. > :44:21.Schengen is concerned... That is the passport free area, which we are not

:44:22. > :44:26.an member of? Doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out that, if, at the

:44:27. > :44:31.borders of Europe, you have porous holes, where people can come abroad,

:44:32. > :44:38.and you have an extant threat that wants to put people in, and you have

:44:39. > :44:44.28 nations in Schengen that reduce the border controls of that nation,

:44:45. > :44:50.it must increase the threat. That is why so many of the nations of Europe

:44:51. > :44:56.have suspended their Schengen operations. So you agree with Nigel

:44:57. > :45:01.Farage, perhaps not in his terms? I'm eating a point of view, I'm not

:45:02. > :45:03.agreeing with any particular politician, Michael Howard, previous

:45:04. > :45:10.Home Secretary, Nigel Farage or anybody else, I am stating the

:45:11. > :45:13.obvious, if you have no internal border controls, it must be more

:45:14. > :45:18.difficult to stop the movement of people. The thing is designed to

:45:19. > :45:25.increase the movement of people, with less bureaucracy and less

:45:26. > :45:30.checks. On the other hand, European sharing of information here is an

:45:31. > :45:33.advantage, the European arrest warrant is an advantage. So there

:45:34. > :45:38.are checks and balances on this. I would say that, and I have, long

:45:39. > :45:45.before you raise the question in the House of Lords, I said that the

:45:46. > :45:50.Schengen system has to be modified. As a principle, it is a good

:45:51. > :45:52.principle for the European Union. In today's conditions, we had to ask

:45:53. > :45:56.the question as to whether or not, thank goodness we are not in it, of

:45:57. > :46:01.course, we are not in the eurozone, we are not in Schengen, but there

:46:02. > :46:04.are other things we need to do. We need far more intelligence sharing

:46:05. > :46:09.throughout Europe. What we tend to find is that after an incident,

:46:10. > :46:14.people put in intelligence. It should be continually. At the

:46:15. > :46:19.moment, most of our intelligence is shared with what they call the five

:46:20. > :46:23.eyes, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United States and the

:46:24. > :46:29.UK. We have defined mechanisms for putting more of that in. When Euro

:46:30. > :46:37.poll tells us that of the five estimated returning the ball from

:46:38. > :46:45.Syria, they only have details on 40% of them. Belgium has, per capita,

:46:46. > :46:55.more jihadists going abroad than any other country in Europe. That is...

:46:56. > :46:59.I think we are well placed in terms of the energies and efforts of the

:47:00. > :47:03.intelligence services, police, community engagement, but, at the

:47:04. > :47:08.end of the day, nobody can guarantee 100% success and, unfortunately, my

:47:09. > :47:11.view is that tragedies like this are likely to happen, and therefore

:47:12. > :47:15.politicians have to be honest with people and tell them that this will

:47:16. > :47:20.be a very long struggle. This is a generational struggle will stop Isis

:47:21. > :47:24.May come and go, Al-Qaeda might come and go, but this is happening

:47:25. > :47:29.throughout the world. It will come here as well as other places. We

:47:30. > :47:32.have to be as resolute as we can in saying we will not allow this to

:47:33. > :47:36.destroy our way of life and democracy.

:47:37. > :47:45.Thank you very much Lord Reed now chair for the Institute of Security

:47:46. > :47:51.and resilience studies and thank you Paul for joining us.

:47:52. > :47:57.This is what we know so far about the latest from Brussels. Belgian

:47:58. > :48:02.media have named two of the men who carried out the attacks at the

:48:03. > :48:05.airport as Khalid and Brahim el-Bakraoui who were brothers who

:48:06. > :48:10.lived in Brussels. Local reports say the pair were known to the police.

:48:11. > :48:15.It's believed at least one of the brothers was seen in that CCTV image

:48:16. > :48:18.at Brussels International Airport. There were earlier reports that both

:48:19. > :48:20.brothers were in the picture but it's now thought that there was just

:48:21. > :48:24.one. Both are believed to have died in

:48:25. > :48:27.the attacks at the airport and Metro.

:48:28. > :48:32.A third man, thought to be involved in the airport bombings, who is

:48:33. > :48:36.still on the run, has been named by state media as Najim Lachraoui. Twin

:48:37. > :48:41.explosions at the airport and another at a Metro station yesterday

:48:42. > :48:46.left around 34 people dead and 250 people hurt.

:48:47. > :48:50.So-called Islamic state says it was behind the attacks and warned that

:48:51. > :48:54.more would follow. Belgium is observing three days of

:48:55. > :48:56.national mourning and a minutes' silence for the victims will be held

:48:57. > :49:02.at midday which is 11 o'clock here. So why was Brussels,

:49:03. > :49:05.the capital of Belgium, attacked? The country has struggled

:49:06. > :49:07.with Islamist groups for years and hundreds of its citizens have

:49:08. > :49:10.gone to fight for so-called Several cities have been known

:49:11. > :49:16.to contain Islamist cells, but the most active have been

:49:17. > :49:19.in Brussels and in the south-western suburb of Molenbeek in particular -

:49:20. > :49:24.an area with a high ethnic Several of the bombers and gunmen

:49:25. > :49:29.who targeted Paris last November, killing 130 people, had been

:49:30. > :49:32.living in Molenbeek. The main suspect not to die

:49:33. > :49:37.in the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam, returned to Belgium

:49:38. > :49:43.the day afterwards and managed He and an accomplice

:49:44. > :49:49.were captured alive, We can talk now to Jef Van Damme,

:49:50. > :49:56.MP for the Molenbeek district, Evegenia Gvozdeva, a counter

:49:57. > :50:07.terrorism expert, and journalist Tim King who has spent time looking

:50:08. > :50:31.at extemism in Belgium. Jeff, how have so many extremists

:50:32. > :50:36.been able to thrive in Molenbeek? The ambassador has explained quite

:50:37. > :50:40.well that this is a multilayered problem and therefore the solution

:50:41. > :50:45.will also be multilayered. After these attacks, we all want to point

:50:46. > :50:51.something or someone as the cause, as the solution to this problem, but

:50:52. > :50:55.I think unfortunately, there is not one single answer to what happened

:50:56. > :51:00.yesterday and there is not one single cause that explains what

:51:01. > :51:09.happens yesterday. There are some elements that are coming back all

:51:10. > :51:14.the time and I... Can I just interrupt you Mr Van Damme. It's

:51:15. > :51:21.being reported by Reuters that a Belgian newspaper is saying that the

:51:22. > :51:24.failed airport bomber, Najim Lachraoui, has been arrested,

:51:25. > :51:28.unconfirmed. Reuters are reporting that one Belgian newspaper says that

:51:29. > :51:33.Najim Lachraoui, who is thought to be the failed airport bomber, the

:51:34. > :51:37.man in the photograph wearing the hat and spectacles, they say that

:51:38. > :51:40.he's been arrested in Brussels. If that is the case, how would you

:51:41. > :51:45.react? Well, that would be very good news,

:51:46. > :51:51.that would be a relief and I really hope it's true. But I think even if

:51:52. > :51:57.it's true, that doesn't necessarily mean that this will be the end of

:51:58. > :52:02.everything as we have seen with the rest of Islam. It doesn't mean that

:52:03. > :52:08.because you get one terrorist that there will not be others trying to

:52:09. > :52:12.do the same so we have to remain vigilant in any case. There's a lot

:52:13. > :52:15.of measures to be taken in the future to avoid these kinds of

:52:16. > :52:20.things as much as possible to happen in the future. Tim, I think you

:52:21. > :52:24.believe it's because of the way the Government is structured that

:52:25. > :52:30.Belgium has a problem with extremists? I've been writing

:52:31. > :52:36.something about the preconditions of the Belgian state on top of which we

:52:37. > :52:43.then get this, as the ambassador was saying, relatively modern phenomenon

:52:44. > :52:51.of an extremely radical violent form of Jihadis. I have talked about the

:52:52. > :52:59.dysfunctionalties of the Belgian state and so made myself slightly

:53:00. > :53:05.unpopular in this country. One hesitates at a moment of deep grief

:53:06. > :53:12.and pain to dwell on this too much. One basic point explain to your

:53:13. > :53:15.viewers is that, because of Belgium's early industrialation,

:53:16. > :53:23.second industrial nation after Britain, with a big coal and steel

:53:24. > :53:28.industry, in the post-war period, the coal and steel industries went

:53:29. > :53:32.down to the Mediterranean to get labour for the mine and the steel

:53:33. > :53:40.industry. So they went to North Africa as well as the south of Italy

:53:41. > :53:51.which is why this immigrant community starts off in Belgium and

:53:52. > :53:55.then develops in parts of Brussels. And you believe the Government of

:53:56. > :54:01.Belgium never really believed they would be attacked? They did and we

:54:02. > :54:07.should know that over the past weeks and months, there was high concern

:54:08. > :54:14.and there were reports and signals about imminent terrorist attacks. We

:54:15. > :54:24.should still go back to November 2015 just to Remind of the threat.

:54:25. > :54:32.There was information about imminent threats of large scale terrorist

:54:33. > :54:36.attacks that could tackle or could attack public transport

:54:37. > :54:43.infrastructures. Since then, there were numerous signals and numerous

:54:44. > :54:48.reports and of course, Counter-Terrorism operations in a

:54:49. > :54:51.district last week and arrest of Salah Abdeslam in the Molenbeek

:54:52. > :54:57.district on Friday, they accelerated an investigation but at the same

:54:58. > :55:05.time they accelerated also other terrorist members to attack.

:55:06. > :55:09.Sorry, to act. Yes. Mr Van Damme what are you going to do and what

:55:10. > :55:13.should the Government do to stop the radicalisation going on in certain

:55:14. > :55:17.suburbs of Brussels? Well, I think it's very important to

:55:18. > :55:23.point out there are two elements in this that are very important to

:55:24. > :55:28.distinguish. There is the repressive part that is to find out where the

:55:29. > :55:32.terrorists are, what their plans are, thousand we can counter them

:55:33. > :55:35.and deal with them. That is one element and that's mostly the

:55:36. > :55:39.Security Services that should properly deal with that. On the

:55:40. > :55:45.other hand, we have a problem of, how do people get there, how do they

:55:46. > :55:51.radicalise, how do we prevent them from becoming a terrorist and I

:55:52. > :55:57.think the main concern for the long-term is there, it's trying to

:55:58. > :56:01.stop and to avoid young people from Brussels or from Belgium

:56:02. > :56:03.radicalising and turning against their own society. That is the main

:56:04. > :56:09.challenge ahead and that is something that is going to take a

:56:10. > :56:14.long time to solve because it's a multi-layered problem that needs

:56:15. > :56:18.multi-layered solutions. That's where the dysfunctionalties of

:56:19. > :56:21.Belgian state woman in because you've got different parts of the

:56:22. > :56:24.Government structure, local government, regional government and

:56:25. > :56:30.federal government and then divisions across the language

:56:31. > :56:33.barriers who're responsible for, for instance, education and very

:56:34. > :56:38.important in Counter-Terrorism, tackling poverty, housing, all these

:56:39. > :56:44.are different layers of the Government, just as the local police

:56:45. > :56:48.are too far removed from the regional police, the Federal Police

:56:49. > :56:52.and the security and Intelligence Services, as Lord Reid was alluding

:56:53. > :56:56.to earlier. Evegina, I don't know if you have seen the reports I've seen

:56:57. > :57:01.which suggest that members of the Islamic state group in Syria were

:57:02. > :57:07.celebrating the attacks yesterday by handing out sweets to children? Yes,

:57:08. > :57:12.exactly. We had since yesterday numerous messages of support that

:57:13. > :57:18.were shared by Islamic state supporters from all across the

:57:19. > :57:22.world, praising the attacks and urging for further attacks. There

:57:23. > :57:27.were calls for further large scale attacks similar to those who

:57:28. > :57:34.targeted Brussels and there were also calls for loan wolf attacks --

:57:35. > :57:38.lone wolf attacks for those Jihadis not linked to any other terrorist

:57:39. > :57:42.network, just to go on to the street and attack other people. Thank you

:57:43. > :57:43.all so much and thank you for being patient, I really appreciate your

:57:44. > :58:02.time this morning, thank you. A fairly cloudy day and mostly dry.

:58:03. > :58:05.There is rain in Northern Ireland and across parts of western

:58:06. > :58:09.Scotland. You can see the amount of cloud we have. One or two breaks

:58:10. > :58:13.currently still across the south. As we go through the day, the cloud

:58:14. > :58:18.will build and the breaks will fill in. Rain coming across western

:58:19. > :58:24.Scotland and Northern Ireland won't be particularly heavy. As it add

:58:25. > :58:26.Juanses east, it brightens up behind it with bright spells is and some

:58:27. > :58:35.showers. It won't be particularly cold in the

:58:36. > :58:38.south. In East Anglia, through the Midlands, into Wales, again a lot of

:58:39. > :58:42.cloud with own or two brighter breaks. In northern England, a bit

:58:43. > :58:46.of drizzle in the north-west but largely cloudy. As the rain clears,

:58:47. > :58:49.some sunshine and showers coming in behind in Northern Ireland and here

:58:50. > :58:53.is the band of rain moving from the west towards the east across

:58:54. > :58:56.Scotland. That will continue to move towards the North Sea through the

:58:57. > :59:00.evening and overnight period, as a weak feature. Where we have some

:59:01. > :59:05.breaks in the cloud, you will tend to find they are going to fill

:59:06. > :59:11.through the night as the next system comes our way. This heralds a

:59:12. > :59:15.change, bringing heavier rain and also stronger winds that many of us

:59:16. > :59:19.haven't seen for a wee while. That will continue to move south-east.

:59:20. > :59:23.Not getting into the far south-east until much, much later on. Behind

:59:24. > :59:27.it, a return to bright spells and also some more showers.

:59:28. > :59:31.As we head through the rest of Thursday and intoo Good Friday, the

:59:32. > :59:35.weather front bearing that rain, very slowly pushes on to the near

:59:36. > :59:39.continent. High pressure builds in behind, so many of us on Good Friday

:59:40. > :59:42.will see a fair bit of sunshine. It will be a pleasant day. Later on,

:59:43. > :59:47.you can see what is happening in the west. Our next Atlantic system

:59:48. > :59:52.coming our way introducing wet and windy weather.

:59:53. > :59:55.In the east, we start off on a dry and bright note but we have got the

:59:56. > :00:00.wet and windy weather coming our way from the west to the east. Coastal

:00:01. > :00:04.gales are also likely. That moves away during the course of Easter

:00:05. > :00:05.Sunday. Bright skies but then we've got more rain and showers coming in

:00:06. > :00:15.from the west. Hello it's Wednesday,

:00:16. > :00:17.it's 10 o'clock. I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:18. > :00:27.welcome to the programme if you've There have been unconfirmed reports

:00:28. > :00:30.that a man suspected of being involved in Brussels terrorist

:00:31. > :00:35.attacks yesterday has arrested. He is called Najim Laachraoui unbeknown

:00:36. > :00:44.associate of the man arrested after the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam.

:00:45. > :00:47.Brussels is in mourning, with tributes coming for the 34 people

:00:48. > :00:51.murdered in those attacks on the airport and metro system. One of the

:00:52. > :01:03.victims is named as a Peruvian mother of twin four-year-old girls.

:01:04. > :01:13.Let's bring you the latest news. We're getting reports that the prime

:01:14. > :01:15.suspect in yesterday's bombings yesterday, Najim Laachraoui, has

:01:16. > :01:22.been arrested. A Belgian newspaper says he was detained in the

:01:23. > :01:28.Anderlecht district. That is only one unconfirmed report, but we will

:01:29. > :01:31.bring you more when we get it. His accomplices have been named as two

:01:32. > :01:34.brothers, Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui, who lived in the city

:01:35. > :01:38.and died at the blast Sydney airport. Belgium is observing three

:01:39. > :01:40.days of national mourning and a minute's silence will be held in

:01:41. > :01:56.just under an hour. The Foreign Office has warned

:01:57. > :02:00.Britons travelling to Belgium to remain vigilant and stay away from

:02:01. > :02:04.crowded areas. Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an IT

:02:05. > :02:06.programmer from Nottingham, who is missing.

:02:07. > :02:09.David Cameron has chaired a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

:02:10. > :02:11.committee this morning to consider how the UK should respond

:02:12. > :02:19.He said that UK security have been stepped up in the wake of a very

:02:20. > :02:20.real terror threat across Europe. Theresa May will make a statement in

:02:21. > :02:23.the Commons at lunchtime. A review examining how

:02:24. > :02:25.South Yorkshire Police dealt with allegations of child sexual

:02:26. > :02:28.exploitation says a lack of interest by senior officers led to repeated

:02:29. > :02:30.failures to investigate. The force says it's made significant

:02:31. > :02:33.progress in tackling exploitation and grooming but it accepts that

:02:34. > :02:37.more needs to be done. Previous reports have detailed

:02:38. > :02:39.the scale of the abuse The frontrunners in the races

:02:40. > :02:46.for the US Republican and Democratic presidential nominations

:02:47. > :02:47.have won their parties' It makes it more likely it will be

:02:48. > :02:53.Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:02:54. > :02:55.election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:02:56. > :02:58.for either of them - they look likely to lose

:02:59. > :03:00.their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:03:01. > :03:05.Sanders hold clear leads. The future of BHS is being decided

:03:06. > :03:08.today, as creditors vote Without an agreement,

:03:09. > :03:13.the loss making retailer may go into administration,

:03:14. > :03:15.putting more than 10,000 jobs The firm also has a pensions

:03:16. > :03:35.deficit of ?571 million. That is a summary of the latest

:03:36. > :03:41.news, Moore at 10:30am. Time for the sport, and the women's Super League

:03:42. > :03:52.season? It kicks off tonight, Manchester

:03:53. > :03:56.City player Notts County. Manchester City's Izzy Christiansen is with us.

:03:57. > :04:00.The first thing we have to mention is this, you have your foot in a

:04:01. > :04:05.boot. You're supposed to be playing tonight, against Notts County. What

:04:06. > :04:09.happened? I suffered an ankle injury in Saturday evening's game against

:04:10. > :04:13.Liverpool. Unfortunately, it has ruled me out for a month or two. I

:04:14. > :04:18.am devastated not to be involved, but very excited to watch and see if

:04:19. > :04:25.kick off tonight. Cruel as well, apparently nobody was around you, it

:04:26. > :04:31.was an accident you did on your own? Yes, feeling sorry for myself. It is

:04:32. > :04:37.part and parcel of the game. It is a case of refocusing my mind.

:04:38. > :04:40.Manchester City were second last season, a really exciting season.

:04:41. > :04:47.How are you going to do this time around? Again, a very exciting

:04:48. > :04:52.campaign to start us off tonight. It is a case of starting off well and

:04:53. > :04:56.we finish very strongly last season, we are confident in the team, the

:04:57. > :05:00.squad we have, the way that we play. I think, come the end of the season,

:05:01. > :05:06.I would like to think we would be up there as title contenders. A lot of

:05:07. > :05:10.new signings, especially foreign signings, which will make it more

:05:11. > :05:17.exciting. Who has benefited most from those signings? Each team has

:05:18. > :05:21.looked to strengthen. That is part and parcel of football. Each team

:05:22. > :05:24.will look to strengthen through the season. We have done well in

:05:25. > :05:31.recruiting a couple of girls from abroad. They fit the profile that we

:05:32. > :05:34.want to employ at Manchester City. They are settling in well and we are

:05:35. > :05:38.excited to see how they will perform this season. Chelsea are the

:05:39. > :05:43.champions and favourites to do it again. How will they be stopped?

:05:44. > :05:46.Well, there is no taking away, Chelsea are a very talented team.

:05:47. > :05:53.They have an exceptionally fierce front line. I think they will be

:05:54. > :05:58.stopped through hard work and dedication. Their front line are

:05:59. > :06:03.very creative. It will be an exciting season, I'm excited to

:06:04. > :06:07.watch everybody performing at the highest level. We are seeing them

:06:08. > :06:11.getting the trophy last season. The fixtures, a lot of people in the

:06:12. > :06:16.game talking about the fixtures. There are 19 is, two new ones,

:06:17. > :06:20.Doncaster and Reading coming into the league. When it gets exciting,

:06:21. > :06:24.you will be sat down again, Manchester City don't have a game on

:06:25. > :06:28.the last day of the season, people are saying the fixtures, with two or

:06:29. > :06:35.three-week brakes had not been well thought out? I think the FA are

:06:36. > :06:39.doing lots of work behind the scenes to progress women's football. The

:06:40. > :06:44.fact there are an odd number of teams in the league is a sign of

:06:45. > :06:47.progression for me as a player. It means there two more games to play

:06:48. > :06:52.in. As a player, that is what you want. Moving forward, I hope that

:06:53. > :07:03.the hard work will culminate into a larger league and more expansive

:07:04. > :07:08.league. So, in the end, it's a good thing, the expansion of the league.

:07:09. > :07:16.OK, the fixtures are a bit of a mess, but in the end, it is for the

:07:17. > :07:20.good of the game. OK, thank you. The women's Super League starts tonight,

:07:21. > :07:24.Manchester City against Notts County. Chelsea are in action, they

:07:25. > :07:32.kick off their season tomorrow night.

:07:33. > :07:39.They took away everything, the words of the husband of one of the women

:07:40. > :07:45.killed in the attacks yesterday. Adelma Tapia Ruiz is the first

:07:46. > :07:49.victim to be named. She was 37 and from proof. Her husband and twin

:07:50. > :07:52.four-year-old daughters were unhurt, because they left the area any

:07:53. > :08:04.airport moments before bombs detonated. -- from Peru row. Here's

:08:05. > :08:15.a recap of our events unfolded yesterday.

:08:16. > :08:19.People started panicking and running.

:08:20. > :08:22.The only thing I saw was just dust in the

:08:23. > :08:30.There were some announcements that something had gone wrong.

:08:31. > :08:34.The woman's voice was like quite shaken

:08:35. > :08:42.on the intercom and that's when I know we should move.

:08:43. > :08:48.No, but I walked through a mess, glass, metal, smoke,

:08:49. > :08:52.We had to walk through puddles and we were

:08:53. > :09:18.And we heard some thudding in the distance.

:09:19. > :09:42.After a few minutes someone came and had us evacuate on to the tracks

:09:43. > :09:44.TRANSLATION: This tragic moment, this black moment in our country,

:09:45. > :09:47.never before, I would like to call on everybody to show

:09:48. > :09:56.These are difficult times, these are appalling terrorists,

:09:57. > :09:59.but we must stand together to do everything we can to stop them

:10:00. > :10:01.and to make sure that, although they attack our way

:10:02. > :10:04.of life, they attack us because of who they are,

:10:05. > :10:09.TRANSLATION: The terrorists have struck Belgium, but it is Europe

:10:10. > :10:48.It is the whole world which is concerned with this.

:10:49. > :10:56.Ben Brown is in the centre of Brussels, where people have been

:10:57. > :11:02.paying tribute. What is the latest? In the last hour or so, quite

:11:03. > :11:05.dramatic news has been coming to us. It is not confirmed, but is running

:11:06. > :11:15.on a local newspaper's website, that the third suspect has been arrested

:11:16. > :11:19.in the Anderlecht area of Brussels. This is Najim Laachraoui. You might

:11:20. > :11:24.remember that yesterday there was a CCTV imagery released by the police,

:11:25. > :11:28.which showed three suspects walking into the departure hall at the

:11:29. > :11:33.airport. One of them is believed to have escaped and not detonated his

:11:34. > :11:37.device. A third device was found unexploded and was dealt with by the

:11:38. > :11:42.security forces. The two other suspects blew themselves up. These

:11:43. > :11:46.were brothers, Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui. It seems they blew

:11:47. > :11:51.themselves up, and those two bombs did explode. The third suspect

:11:52. > :11:56.escaped. The word is that he has been arrested. We have not had that

:11:57. > :12:00.confirmed. Interestingly, he was already being hunted in the wake of

:12:01. > :12:05.the Paris attacks, according to local media. His DNA, in fact, this

:12:06. > :12:10.man, Najim Laachraoui, his DNA was found in one of the houses used by

:12:11. > :12:17.some of the attackers. It is thought that he had travelled to Hungary

:12:18. > :12:20.last year with Salah Abdeslam, the 26-year-old arrested in Brussels

:12:21. > :12:23.last Friday. He had been hunted in connection with the Paris attacks

:12:24. > :12:31.for four months. He was effectively the most wanted man in Europe.

:12:32. > :12:34.Because he was arrested, in custody and being interrogated, perhaps his

:12:35. > :12:38.accomplices might have thought they were going to be exposed. They

:12:39. > :12:40.carried out yesterday's attacks may be sooner than they were

:12:41. > :12:48.anticipating, because they were worried he was going to blue Ali

:12:49. > :12:52.blow their cover. It is a very complicated picture that they have

:12:53. > :12:59.been trying to grapple with, both after Paris and in the wake of the

:13:00. > :13:08.attacks. Let me show you the scene here. I remember talking to you

:13:09. > :13:11.after the Paris attacks, it is like the memorial that appeared after

:13:12. > :13:16.those attacks. People have been coming through the night, lighting

:13:17. > :13:29.candles, leaving flowers, leaving messages. In short, in yellow, you

:13:30. > :13:34.might not be able to see it, it says #respondwithlight, which I think is

:13:35. > :13:38.a good way of putting how the Belgian people feel they need to

:13:39. > :13:42.respond, as happened after the Paris attacks, with hope, optimism and a

:13:43. > :13:47.sense they have to defeat terrorism, they cannot let them destroy their

:13:48. > :13:58.way of life. I am just going to walk you through the crowd, beginning to

:13:59. > :14:08.gather. This is the memorial scene. Again, a larger memorial. There are

:14:09. > :14:12.more candles here at plaster -- the square. Another says, we are all

:14:13. > :14:21.human, a message to the bombers. A very sombre scene. Actually, later,

:14:22. > :14:25.at 11 o'clock, your time, midday, our time, there will be a minutes

:14:26. > :14:34.silence here and across Belgium in memory of the dead and also the

:14:35. > :14:42.wounded. It is 31, we think, maybe 260 injured. If you look up there,

:14:43. > :14:57.towards the fence behind me, you can see the Belgian flag draped on the

:14:58. > :15:01.fence. A message on the red flag, united against hatred. We saw all of

:15:02. > :15:11.that solidarity around Europe and around the world, with Paris and the

:15:12. > :15:15.French flag was projected onto monuments around the world. After

:15:16. > :15:19.this attack, the Belgian flag has been projected onto the Eiffel

:15:20. > :15:24.Tower, and other famous landmarks around Europe. The Brandenburg gate

:15:25. > :15:34.in Germany, for example, the Trevi Fountain in Rome.

:15:35. > :15:41.Again, international tragedy. I feel almost depressed, covering a story

:15:42. > :15:45.like this, because I was in Tunisia after the attack on the beach, where

:15:46. > :15:51.so many British citizens lost their lives, and in Paris after that

:15:52. > :15:55.attack. Here we are, once again, standing in a city which has been

:15:56. > :16:01.traumatised, frankly. That is the only word for it. The people in

:16:02. > :16:08.Brussels and Belgium, many of them have come to pay tribute this

:16:09. > :16:10.morning, but I think they had been perhaps expecting and bracing

:16:11. > :16:13.themselves for a terrorist attack after the attacks we saw in Paris.

:16:14. > :16:18.There were so many connections between the Paris attacks and

:16:19. > :16:29.Brussels. So many of the trails from the Paris attacks led to Brussels

:16:30. > :16:33.and the Molenbeek district in particular. Security had been raised

:16:34. > :16:38.to a high level. When it happened yesterday, there was still immense

:16:39. > :16:40.shock and anger, and nervousness that there could be more attacks as

:16:41. > :16:49.well. People now, as you can see, holding

:16:50. > :16:54.hands. As we pan the camera round, you can see a little bit more to

:16:55. > :16:58.your right there, you can see that people are holding hands, I suppose

:16:59. > :17:05.just trying to come to terms with what has happened here and joining

:17:06. > :17:11.together in this sort of gesture of solidarity amidst their shock. As I

:17:12. > :17:14.say, a sense of fear, a sense of nervousness here in Brussels but

:17:15. > :17:21.also a bit of a sense of defiance. You can see people lifting their

:17:22. > :17:26.arms now and I think they're trying to say that the terrorists will not

:17:27. > :17:31.win here, that they won't destroy a way of life. Again, this was the

:17:32. > :17:36.response that we saw after the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris at

:17:37. > :17:41.the beginning of last year and then the November attacks that were even

:17:42. > :17:49.more deadly that killed 130 people. Now these attacks here in Brussels.

:17:50. > :17:58.They have killed at least 31 people. Terrorism now and the brand of

:17:59. > :18:00.terrorism, of terror that so-called Islamic state with pedalling is

:18:01. > :18:04.something that Europe is having to come to terms with and having to

:18:05. > :18:08.learn to live with. But this is the response this morning.

:18:09. > :18:18.People you can see of all ethnic backgrounds, all religions, or of no

:18:19. > :18:26.religion perhaps, coming together because they want to send out a

:18:27. > :18:29.message to the world that terror attacks like the ones we saw

:18:30. > :18:35.yesterday, the two bombs at Brussels International Airport, followed an

:18:36. > :18:41.hour later by the bomb at Maelbeek Metro station that was even more

:18:42. > :19:30.deadly that killed some 20 people and injured

:19:31. > :19:47.They feel like they have been living in fear and their lives have been

:19:48. > :19:52.put on hold. We can speak to some residents of Brussels.

:19:53. > :19:54.Let's talk to some residents in Brussels.

:19:55. > :19:57.Elivien Chiau, Selma Franssen, Natalia Aerts Lopez and Adam Hall

:19:58. > :19:59.who been living in Brussels for 10 years, who's a professional

:20:00. > :20:04.basketball player and whose close friend was injured by the bombs

:20:05. > :20:58.I went to plaster -- Place de la Bourse yesterday, we went and sang,

:20:59. > :21:03.just to let people know that we will not be defeated by this, Brussels

:21:04. > :21:11.will still be united, even though all of these things happened. Which

:21:12. > :21:16.are, of course, terrible, but we want to say the terrorists will not

:21:17. > :21:20.win. I think he went down to the city centre yesterday, is that

:21:21. > :21:25.right? Yes, I went to the city centre. I was trying to give blood,

:21:26. > :21:31.because there were news messages asking people to come and give

:21:32. > :21:40.blood. In the end, they only had a lack of oh negative. For the rest, I

:21:41. > :21:46.spend my day hanging around in the city centre. Then I just spent time

:21:47. > :21:55.at home, trying to reach family, talk to friends. Just trying to be

:21:56. > :22:00.chill. Do you feel afraid, or pragmatic? I think pragmatic, I am

:22:01. > :22:03.not afraid. I think we were expecting these bombings already, a

:22:04. > :22:08.couple of years ago. I am also not angry. I think the only time I felt

:22:09. > :22:16.angry was when there were bomb attacks in Madrid. This time, I am

:22:17. > :22:21.not angry, frightened. I think I am quite at ease with it. I am really

:22:22. > :22:29.sad about what happened, but I am not being hysterical. I think I am

:22:30. > :22:37.quite pragmatic about it. Adam, what happened to your friend, Sebastien,

:22:38. > :22:40.and how is he now? Late last night I heard he was going into his second

:22:41. > :22:46.surgery, doing well, but in a lot of pain. For me, the hard part was his

:22:47. > :22:51.family, his wife in the USA, his kids, who had no idea what was going

:22:52. > :22:54.on in Belgium, they were trying to relay messages through third parties

:22:55. > :22:59.to find out what was going on, where is he being held, what hospital is

:23:00. > :23:04.he in? We finally got word where he was located. That was the hard part.

:23:05. > :23:10.Seeing the images, when I woke up, I thought, is this a joke? It was

:23:11. > :23:13.really just sad, to think one of your friends is hurt, and it could

:23:14. > :23:16.be even worse, and other people I might know could be injured. You

:23:17. > :23:21.never think something like that could happen. Like the young lady

:23:22. > :23:25.said, we were expecting this for months, that something could happen

:23:26. > :23:29.in Belgium. We did not know where. So it was still a shock when it

:23:30. > :23:33.happened. I think a lot of people expected it, with the military

:23:34. > :23:37.walking around the streets for the last four or five months. Everybody

:23:38. > :23:42.was on edge, nobody knew where or how it would happen. Did Sebastien's

:23:43. > :23:48.wife, did she find out what had happened to him? By seeing a

:23:49. > :23:52.photograph of him? Is that the first she knew? That is the first I knew.

:23:53. > :23:59.They are in Michigan, the time difference is long. I have been

:24:00. > :24:03.calling my mother and dad, to let them know before they see the

:24:04. > :24:08.images, I am OK, my daughter is OK. Another colleague in New York, he

:24:09. > :24:10.hid from a friend in Asia, he didn't know anything about it until the

:24:11. > :24:16.people in Asia told him, because of the time difference. I think a lot

:24:17. > :24:20.of people in the US hand-out from pictures or social media, and the

:24:21. > :24:26.first thing they saw was people being bombed and injured. There have

:24:27. > :24:38.been soldiers on the streets for a while now. Is that reassuring? No,

:24:39. > :24:44.not to me. To me, it is actually more like... It gives you a strange

:24:45. > :24:53.feeling, that there are soldiers walking around. Also, they have been

:24:54. > :25:01.there for months. At this point, I barely noticed them any more. It's

:25:02. > :25:06.so normal, almost. In the beginning, it is strange, you think, what is

:25:07. > :25:11.going on? Is it really necessary that they are here? At one point, it

:25:12. > :25:18.becomes quite normal that they are there. It doesn't really make me

:25:19. > :25:28.feel better when I see all of the soldiers. Not at all. Natalia, are

:25:29. > :25:36.you a Belgian citizen who believes that your government should have

:25:37. > :25:41.been doing more? Well, I think... What could have been done more? I

:25:42. > :25:46.don't know. I really don't know if they could have done more. Maybe

:25:47. > :25:55.they should actually have dogs sniffing for TNT? That is a way of

:25:56. > :25:58.testing if there is on the airport or the metro somebody carrying

:25:59. > :26:02.something dangerous, instead of having the military. Maybe that is

:26:03. > :26:43.something they could add to security. But I am not an expert.

:26:44. > :26:53.The capture of one of the men, we knew that something was going to go

:26:54. > :27:00.down. We wish you all the best, thank you for talking to us.

:27:01. > :27:05.A British man who lived in Brussels is one of those missing. David

:27:06. > :27:10.Dixon, who works in IT, has not been in touch with his partner since the

:27:11. > :27:14.attacks. His partner has been carrying out a heartbreaking tour of

:27:15. > :27:17.the city hospitals in the hope of finding him. David Dixon is thought

:27:18. > :27:23.to have been on the metro when the bomb exploded yesterday. We can talk

:27:24. > :27:29.to Philip Dixon, David's cousin. Thank you for talking to us. Have

:27:30. > :27:37.you had any news from David's partner? Not at the moment. I have

:27:38. > :27:45.spoken to my parents, we are in Holland at the moment. My parents

:27:46. > :27:50.spoke to Charlotte this morning, but she is still waiting on news. She

:27:51. > :27:56.has been around the hospitals, still no news. As far as you know, what

:27:57. > :28:03.were his movements yesterday morning? As far as I'm aware, just

:28:04. > :28:09.his normal working day. He took the metro to work. Unfortunately, it

:28:10. > :28:15.looks like he could have been on this metro train at the time of the

:28:16. > :28:19.bombing yesterday. Charlotte tried phoning work, and he did not turn up

:28:20. > :28:24.for work yesterday morning. We are fearing the worst at the moment.

:28:25. > :28:30.Absolutely unimaginable, actually, what your family must be going

:28:31. > :28:34.through. In terms of Charlotte, she has been to the hospitals, what are

:28:35. > :28:41.her options, what help is she getting from the British Consulate?

:28:42. > :28:49.Yes, they are working alongside Charlotte, going around the

:28:50. > :28:53.hospitals. There is a lot of social media out there. We are just hoping,

:28:54. > :28:57.his picture is being distributed everywhere, hopefully somebody knows

:28:58. > :29:02.where he is at and he is safe and well. Has the family been asked for

:29:03. > :29:09.any particular information by the authorities in Brussels? Yesterday

:29:10. > :29:18.evening, worst case scenario, they have asked for his dental

:29:19. > :29:25.information, just in case. OK. We wish you all the best. Thank you

:29:26. > :29:33.very much for talking to us. Philip Dixon, cousin of the missing British

:29:34. > :29:37.man David Dixon. He went to work as normal yesterday and, as you heard

:29:38. > :29:43.his cousin explaining, he has not been heard from since. His partner,

:29:44. > :29:46.Charlotte, going around hospitals in Brussels desperately trying to find

:29:47. > :29:50.him. Let's bring you the latest news.

:29:51. > :30:00.Reports in the last 30 minutes claim the prime suspect in yesterday's

:30:01. > :30:04.bombings in yesterday's bombings, Najim Laachraoui, may have been

:30:05. > :30:08.arrested. Here is Richard Lister. Three phases in a busy airport. It

:30:09. > :30:11.is thought their trolleys were carrying bombs. These men are

:30:12. > :30:16.reported to be Khalid and Brahim El-Bakraoui, black gloves thought to

:30:17. > :30:20.conceal detonators, suicide bombers about to strike. This man fled the

:30:21. > :30:27.scene. Belgian media named him as Najim Laachraoui. Unconfirmed

:30:28. > :30:33.reports say he has been arrested. This is what they left behind at one

:30:34. > :30:38.of Europe's's busiest airports. You have to go outside! But there was

:30:39. > :30:41.more, a second bombing at a major metro station. These commuters were

:30:42. > :30:50.caught underground when the train ahead blew up, a lovely, if

:30:51. > :30:55.terrifying escape. -- a lucky, if terrifying escape. Police raided a

:30:56. > :31:00.flat, uncovering a nail bomb, chemicals and the flag of the

:31:01. > :31:05.so-called Islamic State. Brussels is a city on edge, security has been

:31:06. > :31:08.stepped up and not just at the European institutions. Everybody

:31:09. > :31:13.this morning is wondering about what happens next. Yesterday I was seeing

:31:14. > :31:18.on Twitter that somebody says we should kill all Muslims. So, indeed,

:31:19. > :31:23.the anti-Muslim sentiment really increased. But what we need to

:31:24. > :31:29.understand is to unite against these terrorists. Najim Laachraoui, on the

:31:30. > :31:32.right, is also linked to the November attacks in Paris.

:31:33. > :31:38.Authorities are yet to comment on reports of his arrest. Meanwhile,

:31:39. > :31:40.the Foreign Office has warned people travelling to Belgium to remain

:31:41. > :31:48.vigilant and stay away from crowded areas. It is just saying that three

:31:49. > :31:52.Britons, I beg your pardon, four Britons have been injured, three of

:31:53. > :31:57.whom are in hospital. Concern has been expressed about David Dixon, an

:31:58. > :32:02.IT programmer from Nottingham who is missing in Brussels. His family have

:32:03. > :32:07.said they have no news, despite searching local hospitals. David

:32:08. > :32:10.Cameron has chaired a meeting of the government's emergency Cobra

:32:11. > :32:13.committee to consider how the UK should respond to the attacks. The

:32:14. > :32:16.Prime Minister said UK security had been stepped up in the wake of a

:32:17. > :32:23.very real terror threat across Europe. Theresa May will make a

:32:24. > :32:28.statement in the Commons at 12:30pm. The front runners in the races for

:32:29. > :32:29.the US Republican and Democratic nominations have won the primaries

:32:30. > :32:32.in Arizona. It makes it more likely it will be

:32:33. > :32:35.Hillary Clinton facing Donald Trump at the presidential

:32:36. > :32:37.election in November. But it wasn't a clean sweep

:32:38. > :32:39.for either of them - they look likely to lose

:32:40. > :32:42.their caucuses in Utah - where Ted Cruz and Bernie

:32:43. > :32:59.Sanders hold clear leads. That is a summary of the main news.

:33:00. > :33:04.Join me at 11 o'clock. In a moment, we will talk to terrorism experts

:33:05. > :33:08.about the threat to this country. You might have heard John Reid

:33:09. > :33:16.telling us that further terrorist attacks were inevitable.

:33:17. > :33:24.It isn't going well for England in Afghanistan. They are six wickets

:33:25. > :33:28.down. Stokes out in a calamitous fashion. He goes for six and he

:33:29. > :33:35.misses the ball. We will see it again in a second. Look at this.

:33:36. > :33:40.That, I am afraid, sums up England's innings so far. 81-60 moments ago.

:33:41. > :33:45.If they lose, in danger of going out. England's women made it two

:33:46. > :33:50.wins out of two. A great catch from Katherine Brunt coming up. Sticky

:33:51. > :33:56.fingers. India making 90 off 20 overs. India getting a two wicket

:33:57. > :34:01.win. Novak Djokovic has tried to call the row of equal pay in tennis

:34:02. > :34:06.saying his comment that men deserved more prize money were taken the

:34:07. > :34:10.wrong way. What he meant to say was that the sport needed a fairer and

:34:11. > :34:15.better distribution of funds for men and women. Super league season gets

:34:16. > :34:18.underway tonight with Chelsea the defending champions playing

:34:19. > :34:28.tomorrow. They will play 16 matches over the next seven months.

:34:29. > :34:35.If you have just joined us, in Brussels, one of the suspects

:34:36. > :34:40.yesterday has been named by state media as Najim Laachraoui. Gavin Lee

:34:41. > :34:47.macro is at the airport in Brussels. What do you know? In the past few

:34:48. > :34:51.minutes, I think we have been talking about the name of this third

:34:52. > :34:56.suspect inside the airport, the one who is said to have survived on the

:34:57. > :34:59.run by the name of Najim Laachraoui. His name first appeared about two

:35:00. > :35:08.days ago just after the rate of Salah Abdeslam in Molenbeek. -- the

:35:09. > :35:12.raid. The DNA of Najim Laachraoui was discovered. Just before the

:35:13. > :35:18.Paris attacks, this was a man Belgian authorities said was a bomb

:35:19. > :35:23.maker, had spent time in Syria in 2013, had come back to Belgium and

:35:24. > :35:27.rented properties, where some of the bombs were made for the Paris

:35:28. > :35:35.attacks, crude, home-made suicide belts. Used a pseudonym until last

:35:36. > :35:39.week. Only after Salah Abdeslam was taken to this maximum security

:35:40. > :35:43.prison is his name emerged. This is what Belgian media reporting.

:35:44. > :35:49.Belgian media have also reportedly has been arrested in Anderlecht very

:35:50. > :35:53.close to Molenbeek. There is an ongoing government emergency meeting

:35:54. > :35:58.now. We are told there will be an update at 1pm, 12pm in the UK, on

:35:59. > :36:02.the details of the three attackers. Very little known about what is

:36:03. > :36:06.happening in Maelbeek. To give you a sense of what is going on elsewhere

:36:07. > :36:10.in the city, about 500 yards away, there is a sports hall turns

:36:11. > :36:14.reception centre where some people have stayed overnight, the

:36:15. > :36:17.passengers who got stuck in Belgium, and many people nearby have been

:36:18. > :36:24.putting them up in else's. It is growing into a number of people

:36:25. > :36:29.lighting candles and putting flowers in Belgian style bottles of beer, to

:36:30. > :36:32.commemorate, despite the government saying not to congregate in huge

:36:33. > :36:39.numbers. We are told the airport will be closed for an independent --

:36:40. > :36:44.an indeterminate amount of time. Is further details emerge about

:36:45. > :36:50.Tuesday's tax in Brussels, Panorama has made a fresh insight into how

:36:51. > :36:56.Islamic State operates in Europe. He detail is here. What have you found

:36:57. > :36:59.out? We started our investigation immediately after the Paris attacks

:37:00. > :37:04.and concluded yesterday with the tragic attacks in Brussels, although

:37:05. > :37:08.I suspect it isn't the conclusion of our investigation. What we used as

:37:09. > :37:11.evidence for trying to find out how the networks were structured and how

:37:12. > :37:17.the attacks were carried out were two things. One was intelligence

:37:18. > :37:20.documents from various European agencies, and the other word

:37:21. > :37:26.transcripts of interrogations carried out by France's equivalent

:37:27. > :37:30.of MI5 of captured returning jihad the fighters. They give a rare

:37:31. > :37:35.insight into how these operations are planned. They are planned by IS

:37:36. > :37:41.in Syria. We have established there is a specialist department in Syria

:37:42. > :37:45.which in Arabic means security. This was the department which we were

:37:46. > :37:52.told by one of the people involved was run by the command of the

:37:53. > :38:04.European jihadist network in Europe. He gets an interesting account of

:38:05. > :38:09.this particular organisation in which Abaaoud was closely involved.

:38:10. > :38:17.This is from the transcript. 1500 people work for this organisation.

:38:18. > :38:22.You have to be trustworthy to join. Its role is to detect spies in Iraq

:38:23. > :38:29.and Syria. That is its only internal role. Its external role is to send

:38:30. > :38:35.people all over the world to commit violent attacks. Each spy gets

:38:36. > :38:41.50,000 euros to mount an attack in Europe. What are the intelligence

:38:42. > :38:46.agencies doing? Or that they possibly can, but it has been

:38:47. > :38:48.difficult. Our investigation revealed that, throughout 2015, the

:38:49. > :38:55.agencies were involved in a desperate race to find Abaaoud, the

:38:56. > :38:59.commander of the network, and to try and stop him. He was identified to

:39:00. > :39:04.be in Athens a week after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. He was

:39:05. > :39:12.identified being there via telephone intercept. With the help of Israel's

:39:13. > :39:16.Mossad and the CIA, the CIA tried to get him, tried to arrest him in

:39:17. > :39:20.Athens but, for whatever reason, they failed. He went back to Syria

:39:21. > :39:26.and boasted about having evaded the best of Western intelligence. But

:39:27. > :39:30.the documents clearly indicate that concern over Abaaoud and the network

:39:31. > :39:36.increased as the months went by last year, with the result that in

:39:37. > :39:40.October, a month before the Paris attacks, MI5 and MI6 at a meeting

:39:41. > :39:43.with a European partner agency to discuss Abaaoud and what they were

:39:44. > :39:49.going to do, and there was particular concern about a report

:39:50. > :39:54.that Abaaoud was planning to send 60 jihadist fighters to attack Europe.

:39:55. > :39:58.There was great concern about this. Roughly at the same time, European

:39:59. > :40:03.agencies got together to discuss the problem of Abaaoud and the network,

:40:04. > :40:09.and they discussed setting up a specialist team to track him and

:40:10. > :40:12.target him. A meeting was planned to finalise the specifics of the

:40:13. > :40:17.specialist teams and the original date planned for that meeting which

:40:18. > :40:24.never happened, was the 13th of November, which tragically was the

:40:25. > :40:29.date of the Paris attacks. We have also been finding out about Abaaoud

:40:30. > :40:33.himself and the way in which he operated and the network operated,

:40:34. > :40:40.again relying on a transcript from another captured fighter. He

:40:41. > :40:44.describes how not only was he trained in Syria by Abaaoud but he

:40:45. > :40:51.was also given he's instructions. To go back to Europe and he described

:40:52. > :40:58.the kind of targets that Abaaoud directed him to attack. This was a

:40:59. > :41:03.clip from the interrogation by France's MI5. He told me to choose

:41:04. > :41:07.an easy target. Imagine a rock concert in a European country. He

:41:08. > :41:12.specified that the best thing to do is to wait for the intervention

:41:13. > :41:18.forces and to die fighting with hostages. He told me whoever rushes

:41:19. > :41:27.the enemy will have the reward of two maters. You can see that special

:41:28. > :41:33.Panorama tonight at 9pm on BBC One. Let's talk down to Baroness Pauline

:41:34. > :41:38.Neville Jones, a former security and counterterrorism minister, and also

:41:39. > :41:42.at Hussein, a counter extremism expert. He has spoken openly about

:41:43. > :41:48.his own experience of being radicalised and being a member of

:41:49. > :41:53.extremist groups from aged 16 to 21. What is your view on why Brussels

:41:54. > :42:00.was attacked in this way and at this time? I think it was clear that

:42:01. > :42:04.Brussels still harboured a number and does indeed harbour a number of

:42:05. > :42:13.people who are active in terrorist activity. I think that immediately

:42:14. > :42:17.after the attacks in Brussels, I think there is still momentum, they

:42:18. > :42:22.still have caches of arms, they still have planning and they want to

:42:23. > :42:27.get on with something. And they do know that Brussels itself, the

:42:28. > :42:31.Belgian authorities, have not really built a strong and professional

:42:32. > :42:35.intelligence service, or indeed really good cooperation with the

:42:36. > :42:41.police. I think the understanding of the structure of the Belgian state

:42:42. > :42:45.is rather weak. So it is a vulnerable place, and I think there

:42:46. > :42:49.has got to be a very serious attempt now on the part of the Belgians

:42:50. > :42:53.themselves, with a lot of help from their friends and allies, to

:42:54. > :43:04.strengthen their capabilities against this kind of attack.

:43:05. > :43:09.Presumably they have to look at stopping the attacks of the young

:43:10. > :43:14.Belgian nationals? You are absolutely right. It's a two-layered

:43:15. > :43:17.problem. On a macro level, you have issues around the identity, lack of

:43:18. > :43:23.being race, lack of a feeling of belonging in Europe. Which makes

:43:24. > :43:28.them vulnerable to IS's ideaology? Of offering them a sense of purpose

:43:29. > :43:33.and belonging and this utopian perfectionist Islamic state. On a

:43:34. > :43:35.microlevel we have increase of radicalisation and extremism in

:43:36. > :43:41.prisons, on university campuses, online and some mosques. We have to

:43:42. > :43:45.tackle this on the microand macro level and we are not doing that. We

:43:46. > :43:53.don't have a comprehensive strategy. You say we, do you mean in Belgium

:43:54. > :43:56.or across Europe? Across Europe. Joined up Government isn't just a

:43:57. > :44:04.slogan but at the moment it seems to be just that. Arab and Muslim

:44:05. > :44:09.Governments hand over intelligence and help falter efforts. More deeply

:44:10. > :44:12.at civil society level, we are looking at the logistics, but when a

:44:13. > :44:15.suicide bomber undertakes action, in his or her mind they think and

:44:16. > :44:18.believe in the theology that's offering them continuity in their

:44:19. > :44:22.next life. It's not just about stopping the act, but getting into

:44:23. > :44:28.their minds and stopping them from thinking along the lines that they

:44:29. > :44:34.don't belong here and somehow a belief in an afterlast, not

:44:35. > :44:51.criticising the belief but believing in the fact that you are led to

:44:52. > :44:56.heaven. I have talked to many people since the 7/7 bombings about that

:44:57. > :45:00.very subject, about how to change those young men's minds about what

:45:01. > :45:05.will happen if they blow themselves and others up? Well, if that's what

:45:06. > :45:09.you have been doing, except lent and we need much more of that... But I

:45:10. > :45:13.mean, the then Labour Government and the Governments since have been

:45:14. > :45:16.trying to, you know, install those kind of programmes, those

:45:17. > :45:21.initiatives within certain communities, you will know that?

:45:22. > :45:25.Yes. There are various programmes and Ed is right about the

:45:26. > :45:29.fundamentals. In fact when you get down to it, each country is

:45:30. > :45:33.different. It's Moroccans in Belgium, Turks in Germany and so on

:45:34. > :45:36.and so there is generality and cultural specific aspects and each

:45:37. > :45:40.country has to develop a programme. There are a lot of common themes we

:45:41. > :45:48.can use. You have got to do it with the local community. We'll never do

:45:49. > :45:52.this without the copration of the Muslim community itself. People have

:45:53. > :45:56.been saying that since 2005 as well. We are very conscious of it in this

:45:57. > :45:59.country. We are not anything like winning but we are making progress.

:46:00. > :46:03.In other countries they haven't got there. I think it would be fair to

:46:04. > :46:07.say the Belgians haven't realised until recently that this was a real

:46:08. > :46:10.issue and a lot of the people who live in Molenbeek, the area we are

:46:11. > :46:15.talking about, it's also a crime area. It's very easy to get hold of

:46:16. > :46:22.the protection they need, the arms they need, the criminal networks

:46:23. > :46:25.they need, the communications that are out to other networks, so

:46:26. > :46:33.there's a very great deal that you have to do. Simultaneously by way of

:46:34. > :46:38.pursuit and preventing over the long-term, this kind of behaviour,

:46:39. > :46:43.so it's a big task. We heard John Reid, Lord Reid he is now, who said

:46:44. > :46:47.British politicians should be honest with the electorate here, "there

:46:48. > :46:53.will be another terrorist attack in this country, it's inevitable".

:46:54. > :46:58.I'm afraid I don't accept the word inevitable. It's certainly the case

:46:59. > :47:01.that the agencies say, and rightly, that they cannot reckon to prevent

:47:02. > :47:07.everything that's potentially going to happen. However, I do think it's

:47:08. > :47:10.the case that this country is better protected than many. We have the

:47:11. > :47:19.advantages of our geography, we have kept our borders under control, we

:47:20. > :47:23.don't let the arms in in anything like... Well it's not easy. You have

:47:24. > :47:28.to be vigilant all of the time but I wouldn't equate the security

:47:29. > :47:30.situation in the UK with that in Belgium and we shouldn't give people

:47:31. > :47:36.the impression that it's like that either. I want to bring the audience

:47:37. > :47:46.some new pictures of the suspects. If I can just have a closer look.

:47:47. > :47:52.Just coming into us here. These are photographs of the brothers, the two

:47:53. > :47:56.of the three men photographed at the airport pushing those luggage

:47:57. > :48:00.trolleys, the bombs contained inside their suitcases we are told. These

:48:01. > :48:10.are the latest pictures of the two brothers. Khalid and Brahim Al

:48:11. > :48:14.Bakraoui. Ed Hussain, do you agree with Lord Reid or Baroness

:48:15. > :48:19.Neville-Jones about whether an attack... The Baroness Is right that

:48:20. > :48:22.we can't compare Belgian security responses to the way it's been

:48:23. > :48:25.operating here in the UK. We have been further ahead than most

:48:26. > :48:28.Governments sothe British Government's response hasn't been

:48:29. > :48:34.this countering of extremism that we see in the US or large parts of

:48:35. > :48:40.Europe. This Government and a lot of it under Baroness Neville-Jones was

:48:41. > :48:45.to remove to preventing extremism itself and not waiting for it to get

:48:46. > :48:50.to vale lens. We have won that, but that said, we shouldn't rest on our

:48:51. > :48:54.laurels. Terrorists have to be lucky once and every time, so that risk is

:48:55. > :48:59.there, and whether it's in the UK, whether it was in the US, in France,

:49:00. > :49:03.Germany, none of us are immune from the imminence of this global terror

:49:04. > :49:06.threat. Let's remember, yes, we have been through Paris and we have just

:49:07. > :49:12.gone through Belgium and previously Madrid and London and New York, but

:49:13. > :49:19.this kind of terrorist across Si happens -- atrocity happens almost

:49:20. > :49:28.every day. This is monitored in the centre for geopolitics. At some

:49:29. > :49:35.point this will touch us. Good policing and good intelligence are a

:49:36. > :49:39.huge deal in preventing things happen. I'm note trying to say we

:49:40. > :49:44.are immune but we shouldn't just take the view that somehow we are

:49:45. > :49:48.not going to ever be able to make an effective defence of our security. I

:49:49. > :49:55.do think that we will maintain a very high level of security in this

:49:56. > :50:00.country and our agencies and police need the support of the general

:50:01. > :50:05.community but also obviously of the Muslim communities in which the

:50:06. > :50:13.vital information is actually going to be found. That's another part of

:50:14. > :50:18.the battle against this kind of penetration and the destruction of

:50:19. > :50:25.our values. What does the group Islamic state want? The The group

:50:26. > :50:29.wants to retain its territory but also wants to expand outwards. It's

:50:30. > :50:33.not content with the landmass they've got, they want to continue

:50:34. > :50:38.to broadcast and export its ideaology. It's an ideological

:50:39. > :50:44.entity, too often we overlook the fact this is based on theology and

:50:45. > :50:49.philosophy and it wants to export that among its Muslim populations

:50:50. > :50:52.and it targets those, then outward among non-Muslims in trying to

:50:53. > :50:56.recruit them to the literalist outdated world view. The claim of

:50:57. > :51:00.being a caliphate and having a state is a very great draw at the moment I

:51:01. > :51:03.think and coming under pressure of course in reducing the level of

:51:04. > :51:07.success is in fact something that they feel they need to counter, so

:51:08. > :51:10.they are being more active in a sense outside, you know, because

:51:11. > :51:17.they want to demonstrate they still have power. It's a big battle.

:51:18. > :51:20.Yes. If they kill Muslims in Brussels or Paris or wherever,

:51:21. > :51:24.Turkey, wherever else in Europe, beaches in Tunisia, is that just the

:51:25. > :51:29.way it is, it's still a means to an end for them? For them, the vast

:51:30. > :51:33.majority of Muslims they kill and the vast majority of their victims

:51:34. > :51:37.have been Muslims around the world, they are not Muslim enough and that

:51:38. > :51:43.I think plays to the advantage of all of us that even Muslims aren't

:51:44. > :51:50.Muslim enough for us because they are more Muslim than Muslim, most

:51:51. > :51:55.Muslims reject them because they are extreme and out of fringes of Islam

:51:56. > :51:59.historically and at the moment. It's worth remembering that a good five

:52:00. > :52:04.or six years ago when the Baroness And I worked on these issues, we

:52:05. > :52:08.were talking about a caliphate, an expansion of state and people said

:52:09. > :52:12.we were alarmists. Right now this issue is a generational issue and

:52:13. > :52:16.all of us across civil society, it's not about being Muslim or

:52:17. > :52:23.non-Muslim, it's a common threat to all of us and it shouldn't be

:52:24. > :52:27.divided along left, right, political lines, Brexit or anti-Brexit, it's

:52:28. > :52:30.affecting key cities around the world and it targets Muslims

:52:31. > :52:35.noovened Muslims and we shouldn't fall into their trap by turning on

:52:36. > :52:41.innocent Muslims. Much of the intelligence and countering efforts

:52:42. > :52:53.of the extremists lies within these communities. Thank you very much.

:52:54. > :53:01.As we heard from Ben Brown, Place de la Bourse in Brussels has become the

:53:02. > :53:06.Centre for Tributes for those who died in the attacks. Hoping to bring

:53:07. > :53:08.you some live images in the next few minutes where hundreds of people

:53:09. > :53:13.have been coming to the square to mourn and to reflect using the chalk

:53:14. > :53:18.messages to express themselves, as Ben told us earlier, and also as we

:53:19. > :53:24.saw earlier, getting together, complete strangers, holding hands

:53:25. > :53:25.and raising their arms aloft in a gentle show of defiance, if I can

:53:26. > :53:55.put it like that. I felt so powerless

:53:56. > :54:16.and I wanted to do something. I'm really not afraid...

:54:17. > :55:14.I don't know. Four British people have been

:55:15. > :55:18.declared as being in Belgium at the time of this. We have a read out

:55:19. > :55:23.from the meeting so there were four Brits who were injured. One has been

:55:24. > :55:29.discharged from hospital, she's a woman, the other three who're still

:55:30. > :55:33.in hospital are men. Two I'm told do not have life-threatening injuries,

:55:34. > :55:37.they seem OK, they are in one hospital. The third, there are no

:55:38. > :55:41.details on at the moment. That's not to say he's got life-threatening

:55:42. > :55:46.injuries, but the details haven't been forthcoming. In terms of the

:55:47. > :55:49.missing Briton, David Dixon, Number Ten are saying there is some concern

:55:50. > :55:53.now about him obviously because we are 24 hours on from the bombing, he

:55:54. > :55:59.was thought to be on the Metro on his way to work. You would think he

:56:00. > :56:08.would have been in contact with his partner. His partner has been around

:56:09. > :56:13.the hospitals to see if he's been at the hospitals, the Foreign Office

:56:14. > :56:18.has been trying to do the same. That has to be of some concern. We'll get

:56:19. > :56:21.a minutes' silence in Government departments at 11 then a statement

:56:22. > :56:22.by the Home Secretary in the House of Commons after Prime Minister's

:56:23. > :56:24.Questions. Thank you. The BBC's Secunder Kermani

:56:25. > :56:27.is in Brussels - he has been spending time in Molenbeek,

:56:28. > :56:30.where the chief Paris terror suspect Salah Abdeslam was

:56:31. > :56:39.detained last week. What have you been finding out? The

:56:40. > :56:43.man who has been arrested this morning, Najim Lachraoui, we believe

:56:44. > :56:47.he's been arrested certainly. What is interesting about him and the

:56:48. > :56:53.others is their links seem to go back to the cell behind the Paris

:56:54. > :57:03.attacks, though we are not entirely sure how Najim Lachraoui was stopped

:57:04. > :57:08.at the Hungarian border with one of the people involved in the Paris

:57:09. > :57:12.plots. He was stopped with another man,

:57:13. > :57:16.they were using false identity cards. They used those cards to rent

:57:17. > :57:22.safe houses that were used to prepare for the Paris attacks. The

:57:23. > :57:26.police found his DNA on some of the explosive devices used in the Paris

:57:27. > :57:32.attacks. Then we have the brothers believed to be in the bombings as

:57:33. > :57:35.well and both very interestingly have long criminal pasts which I

:57:36. > :57:39.think more of that will come out today.

:57:40. > :57:42.Thank you very much. We'll continue our coverage of all of the

:57:43. > :57:49.developments after yesterday's bomb attacks in Brussels. Flags are

:57:50. > :57:53.flying at half-mast across Belgium and a minutes' silence is due to be

:57:54. > :57:57.held in the next few minutes which will be observed across the country.

:57:58. > :57:59.Now to Ben Brown in the main square in the capital where all the

:58:00. > :58:14.tributes are. You join us for a special BBC News

:58:15. > :58:15.live