11/04/2016

:00:08. > :00:11.It's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

:00:12. > :00:15.Our top story this morning: Now that David Cameron has

:00:16. > :00:17.published his tax returns, pressure mounts on other senior

:00:18. > :00:24.Chancellor George Osborne may do so in the next few days.

:00:25. > :00:26.But is it enough to draw a line under the row

:00:27. > :00:37.about David Cameron's financial affairs?

:00:38. > :00:39.Also on the programme: Abused by Jimmy Savile.

:00:40. > :00:41.One woman and her partner tell us their story.

:00:42. > :00:52.He knew that I had been abused the years. We have our own little gang,

:00:53. > :00:55.your eyes go down to the floor, your body language of hold yourself, you

:00:56. > :00:59.are quite tense, and they know that. And an American mother says

:01:00. > :01:01.she faces deportation because her British husband of nine

:01:02. > :01:04.years earns less than ?18,600. We'll talk to her before

:01:05. > :01:19.the end of the programme. We're live until 11

:01:20. > :01:23.every weekday morning. Later in the programme we'll talk

:01:24. > :01:33.about a survey which suggests more than half of British Muslims think

:01:34. > :01:36.homosexuality should be illegal. The former head of the Equality

:01:37. > :01:38.and Human Rights Commission, Trevor Phillips, says

:01:39. > :01:40.British Muslims are increasingly Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:41. > :01:46.we're talking about this morning. And if you text, you will be charged

:01:47. > :01:50.at the standard network rate. And don't forget if you've

:01:51. > :01:53.got a story you think we should be covering,

:01:54. > :01:55.do send it to us. Some of our best stories come

:01:56. > :01:58.from you, our viewers. The BBC has learned

:01:59. > :02:01.that the Chancellor, George Osborne, may publish his tax

:02:02. > :02:04.returns in the next few days. It comes as David Cameron will today

:02:05. > :02:10.face MPs for the first time since the leaking

:02:11. > :02:13.of the Panama Papers which exposed the extent to which offshore

:02:14. > :02:19.companies are used to hide money Mr Cameron will announce plans

:02:20. > :02:28.to create a new criminal offence committed by companies that fail

:02:29. > :02:31.to do enough to stop staff With us now is our political guru

:02:32. > :02:35.Norman Smith at Westminster. Norman, the politicians falling over

:02:36. > :02:41.themselves to publish their tax returns? The tax bandwagon is

:02:42. > :02:45.rolling, and it is picking up speed. We have already seen the Prime

:02:46. > :02:49.Minister Forster publishes tax returns, and now it seems the

:02:50. > :03:00.Chancellor is likely to do so within the next few days, although his

:03:01. > :03:13.aides stress that his tax affairs are simple.

:03:14. > :03:18.Ministers are demanding that all Cabinet Ministers disclose whether

:03:19. > :04:23.they have benefited from an offshore fund.

:04:24. > :04:27.How far should tax disclosure go? Should it go to journalists like you

:04:28. > :04:34.and me, too? Should we have today close our tax affairs? Some in

:04:35. > :04:36.Westminster are nervous that this is becoming far too all-encompassing,

:04:37. > :04:41.and that is the view of the Lib leader, Tim Farron. If we or issue

:04:42. > :04:47.our tax returns, I think if people did that, that is up to them, but I

:04:48. > :04:50.am worried that what you end up with is a witchhunt of individuals,

:04:51. > :04:53.rather than tackling the bigger picture, so what the Liberal

:04:54. > :04:59.Democrats want to see happen is a general anti-avoidance rule,

:05:00. > :05:05.something we push for in coalition. It is not what we needed. We will

:05:06. > :05:08.get more of this in the Commons when the Prime Minister will be making a

:05:09. > :05:13.statement about tax, but also taken Rhys Jones about his own personal

:05:14. > :05:17.tax affairs, and I am told he is quite willing to take quite detailed

:05:18. > :05:27.questions on his specific tax arrangements. ISA I have to say mine

:05:28. > :05:32.would be thunderously dull if I ever have published them!

:05:33. > :05:35.Over to the BBC Newsroom for more on that and a summary

:05:36. > :05:45.Maxine is in the newsroom. Good morning, everybody.

:05:46. > :05:47.The former defence secretary Liam Fox has called for those

:05:48. > :05:49.campaigning to leave the European Union to be allowed

:05:50. > :05:52.to include their views in the controversial EU referendum

:05:53. > :05:54.leaflet that's being mailed to households across the UK.

:05:55. > :05:56.The document, which will set out the Government's case

:05:57. > :05:59.for staying in the EU, is costing the taxpayer nine million

:06:00. > :06:01.pounds, and the first batches will be delivered to households

:06:02. > :06:17.MPs campaigning to leave are also expected to call in Parliament today

:06:18. > :06:22.for changes to the Finance Bill, to secure an extra ?9 million

:06:23. > :06:23.in funding for their campaign to compensate.

:06:24. > :06:26.More than 200,000 members of the public have signed a petition

:06:27. > :06:28.demanding the mailing is cancelled altogether.

:06:29. > :06:30.A deal that would safeguard the future of the Tata steelworks

:06:31. > :06:32.in Scunthorpe is expected to be signed today.

:06:33. > :06:34.It's thought the investment firm, Greybull Capital,

:06:35. > :06:35.will announce the sale, following nine months

:06:36. > :06:39.Also today, Tata is also expected to begin the formal

:06:40. > :06:41.process of selling the rest of its loss-making UK plants.

:06:42. > :06:48.If the Scunthorpe deal is approved, it will secure about 4,000 jobs.

:06:49. > :06:53.It is massive, and secures the future for Scunthorpe, our

:06:54. > :06:59.communities, the Scunthorpe workforce, we are talking up to

:07:00. > :07:03.40,000 jobs saved, a community that can carry on, the council still

:07:04. > :07:09.receiving their taxes to pay their workers, it is massive for the town.

:07:10. > :07:11.Around 7,000 pupils in Edinburgh will not be

:07:12. > :07:14.able to return to school from the holidays today

:07:15. > :07:15.because of concerns that school buildings may

:07:16. > :07:18.17 schools have been closed until further notice.

:07:19. > :07:28.It was checks at this school, Oxgang's Primary, on Friday,

:07:29. > :07:31.which led to concerns that there might be a wider problem.

:07:32. > :07:33.One official said that the standard of construction was completely

:07:34. > :07:36.That discovery means that there is concern about other

:07:37. > :07:39.schools built by the same company, Miller Construction, as part

:07:40. > :07:45.The lateness of the decision on Friday to the following Monday

:07:46. > :07:50.means alternative arrangements had not yet been put in place.

:07:51. > :07:53.We were told earlier in the week it would be open,

:07:54. > :07:57.and then to find out on Friday that it is not is a nightmare,

:07:58. > :08:00.because we don't have child-care options.

:08:01. > :08:02.My concern is if they move them to another school,

:08:03. > :08:26.Scotland's Education Secretary Angela Constance has now told

:08:27. > :08:28.councils across the country to carry out whatever checks they think

:08:29. > :08:31.are necessary to make sure that their schools are safe.

:08:32. > :08:33.This is a hugely embarrassing and difficult situation

:08:34. > :08:36.Apart from anything else it causes problems for pupils sitting exams

:08:37. > :08:54.The council's case simply that safety has to come first.

:08:55. > :08:57.Nearly a quarter of children referred to specialist mental health

:08:58. > :08:59.services in England are turned away, according to a report.

:09:00. > :09:01.The research also found wide variations in average waiting times

:09:02. > :09:03.for young people to receive treatment, ranging from

:09:04. > :09:06.It was produced by Centre Forum, an education

:09:07. > :09:09.The writer and convicted drug smuggler, Howard Marks,

:09:10. > :09:14.He came to prominence for his best-selling memoir

:09:15. > :09:22.It was published in 1996, a year after he was released

:09:23. > :09:28.He served seven years of a 25 year jail sentence for drugs offences.

:09:29. > :09:33.A petition urging the Home Office not to deport an American woman

:09:34. > :09:35.living in the UK has been signed by over 1,000 people.

:09:36. > :09:44.has been refused a visa because her British husband Dominic,

:09:45. > :09:47.a self-employed bike dealer, earns less than ?18,600 a year.

:09:48. > :09:49.The couple have a daughter, Madeleine, aged two.

:09:50. > :09:52.Mrs James said she has been ordered to leave by 16 April

:09:53. > :09:55.The Home Office says all applications are considered

:09:56. > :09:57.on individual merit, in line with immigration rules.

:09:58. > :10:06.And we'll be talking to the James family at about 10:40.

:10:07. > :10:09.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will pay their respects

:10:10. > :10:12.to the Indian republic's founding father, Mahatma Gandhi,

:10:13. > :10:15.when their tour of India and Bhutan takes them to New Delhi today.

:10:16. > :10:17.Yesterday they attended a glittering Bollywood gala dinner.

:10:18. > :10:18.Our Royal Correspondent Nicholas Witchell's report

:10:19. > :10:26.At a gala dinner organised by the British High Commission

:10:27. > :10:28.for Bollywood's stars and Indian business leaders, Williams spoke

:10:29. > :10:32.When Catherine and I were married, India was the first place

:10:33. > :10:36.on Catherine's list that she told me she wanted to visit.

:10:37. > :10:41.Two children and five years later, we have finally made it.

:10:42. > :10:47.They have come to India to experience something

:10:48. > :10:54.They have already seen one of the slum areas of Mumbai.

:10:55. > :10:57.Today they will see the other side of the city, the high-tech

:10:58. > :11:02.community which is a centre for young entrepreneurs.

:11:03. > :11:05.And then they will travel to New Delhi to lay a wreath

:11:06. > :11:07.at India's main war memorial, a reminder of Indian sacrifice

:11:08. > :11:13.There will be a visit to the home of India's founding father,

:11:14. > :11:23.Mahatma Gandhi, and a reception at the British High Commission.

:11:24. > :11:25.That reception in Delhi is to mark the Queen's 90th birthday,

:11:26. > :11:27.which falls on Thursday of next week.

:11:28. > :11:30.William is expected to make a speech, and pay tribute

:11:31. > :11:46.The global population of wild tigers has increased for the first time in

:11:47. > :11:51.more than a century. It is gone up to nearly 4000 today. The

:11:52. > :11:53.environmental organisation is attributing the rise to better

:11:54. > :11:59.conservation efforts in countries such as India and Russia. That is a

:12:00. > :12:04.summary of the latest BBC News. I will have more from you at half past

:12:05. > :12:08.nine. Now back to Joanna. In the next few minutes, we will hear Sam's

:12:09. > :12:12.story. She was abused by Jimmy Savile from the age of 11 to 14 of

:12:13. > :12:15.Stoke Mandeville Hospital. She lived with that abuse of years before

:12:16. > :12:21.coming forward after his death to report it. Now she says she is on a

:12:22. > :12:26.mission to have a voice of everyone who isn't strong enough to have

:12:27. > :12:29.their own voice. Do stay with us for that interview. But if you have your

:12:30. > :12:38.own experience of abuse, do get in touch with us. Now let's catch up

:12:39. > :12:44.with the sport. Olly Foster has news of those amazing scenes at Augusta

:12:45. > :12:48.with Danny Willett's win. Could not go to bed! I planned on

:12:49. > :12:51.going to bed early, but when Jordan Spieth started hitting it into the

:12:52. > :12:56.water, you had to wait to see what was going to happen. Danny Willett

:12:57. > :13:03.says he simply cannot believe that his name will now be on the roll of

:13:04. > :13:09.mock Masters champions. -- the roll call of Masters champions. Reigning

:13:10. > :13:15.champion Jordan Spieth blow up on the back nine, threw away a five

:13:16. > :13:18.shot lead, and will Danny Willett had nerves of steel. Adam Wilde

:13:19. > :13:31.reports. It is one of golf's

:13:32. > :13:33.most exclusive clubs. Danny Willett from Sheffield

:13:34. > :13:35.is now its newest member. In truth, few at

:13:36. > :13:37.Augusta expected it. The American Jordan Spieth led

:13:38. > :13:40.from start to finish last year. It seemed he was destined

:13:41. > :13:42.to do it again. Moving further and further ahead,

:13:43. > :13:47.surely no one could catch him. But a few were beginning

:13:48. > :13:49.to get close. Danny Willett was now

:13:50. > :14:03.leading the chase. Louis Oosthuizen's hole in one was

:14:04. > :14:09.perhaps the most remarkable shot. Cheers of delight, but soon stifled

:14:10. > :14:14.with gasps of disbelief. Jordan Spieth brought down to earth with a

:14:15. > :14:16.bump and then a splash, twice into the water at the 12th, his lead

:14:17. > :14:22.evaporated. COMMENTATOR: Jordan Spieth is

:14:23. > :14:28.sinking without trace at the Masters. This is extraordinary.

:14:29. > :14:31.Danny Willett just had to hold his nerve before heading back to the

:14:32. > :14:35.clubhouse for an anxious wait and a quick word with family back home.

:14:36. > :14:42.There was no need for any of them to worry. Jordan Spieth had no answer.

:14:43. > :14:46.I hope I have done them proud, and not just because of the golf, but

:14:47. > :14:51.because of the person I have become and what we're trying to do the

:14:52. > :14:55.game. I am sure they are back home now, maybe shedding a little tear.

:14:56. > :14:57.Just the second Englishman to where the famous green jacket, quite some

:14:58. > :15:05.souvenir to take home. Danny Willett was being faded at

:15:06. > :15:15.Augusta, his Peter was the toast on Twitter. He

:15:16. > :15:16.added his own unique take on what was happening... Here is one of them

:15:17. > :15:42.we can actually showed you... And here is one from the Prime

:15:43. > :15:51.Minister... The previous one from Sir Nick Faldo.

:15:52. > :15:58.Jordan Spieth had his Devon Loch moment last night. Leicester City

:15:59. > :16:02.fans will be keeping everything crossed they do not have theirs.

:16:03. > :16:07.Seven points clear at the top of the Premier League, five matches to

:16:08. > :16:10.play, winning 2-0 at Sunderland. Jamie Vardy scoring twice. Ten

:16:11. > :16:17.points clear for a couple of hours, closest challengers Spurs beat Man

:16:18. > :16:21.United 3-0 in the Late Kick Off. United's defeat mean Leicester are

:16:22. > :16:25.guaranteed Champions League football next season. Strange to say, they

:16:26. > :16:30.are going to be aiming a lot higher than that over the next few weeks. I

:16:31. > :16:36.will be back with the headlines after 9:30am and after 10am, we will

:16:37. > :16:40.hopefully chat to Danny Willett! Fabulous. I cannot wait and I am

:16:41. > :16:42.sure Green is his favourite colour. Yes, and it does not make you look

:16:43. > :16:44.fat at all. In the weeks after the death

:16:45. > :16:47.of Jimmy Savile - the nation was shocked by the horrific

:16:48. > :16:49.revelations of sexual abuse As momentum built, thousands

:16:50. > :16:52.of people came forward to report abuse they had

:16:53. > :16:54.suffered in the past - With the scale of the abuse

:16:55. > :16:58.apparent, questions were then asked about why none of this had been

:16:59. > :17:02.exposed during his life. Tonight in a documentary on the BBC,

:17:03. > :17:06.some of those people speak out about their abuse for the first

:17:07. > :17:09.time, and the impact that coming forward has had on them

:17:10. > :17:28.and their families. It was in secret, it was shame.

:17:29. > :17:33.Wasn't it? You were ashamed of it. It went through my mind, should I

:17:34. > :17:40.tell my wife? Do you know what happened? Not completely, no. You

:17:41. > :17:44.think, you have the marriage, the French, and all of a sudden there is

:17:45. > :17:51.this great big world that you did not know about. -- the friendship.

:17:52. > :17:57.For decades, there was a secret at the heart of British life. I don't

:17:58. > :18:00.think I told you for years. I know, and you still haven't told me fully

:18:01. > :18:07.and I don't want to have that in my head. It lay hidden in our biggest

:18:08. > :18:18.institutions... And with an ordinary family... She told me not to tell

:18:19. > :18:28.anybody. I wiped it... Wiped it from my memory entirely. For how long? 46

:18:29. > :18:34.years. But when the truth about one man was revealed... The nation was

:18:35. > :18:41.forced to examine its past... And the secret was out. I am not

:18:42. > :18:48.ashamed. This is my face. This is what I look like. I have done

:18:49. > :18:53.nothing wrong. These are the people who broke their silence and changed

:18:54. > :19:03.a nation. The documentary looks

:19:04. > :19:05.at the watershed moment created by Savile's death,

:19:06. > :19:08.and why so many people chose at that After Savile, the Crown Prosecution

:19:09. > :19:15.Service accepted mistakes had been made, and it was forced

:19:16. > :19:18.to change the way it dealt Tonight's documentary also

:19:19. > :19:23.follows the story of Katy, who says she was sexually abused

:19:24. > :19:25.when she was nine. Now an adult, she has pressed

:19:26. > :19:43.charges, and must go to court to be This is how she reacted.

:19:44. > :19:47.Nearly five years since first going to the police, Katie is going to be

:19:48. > :19:52.cross-examined by the defence who will challenge her version of

:19:53. > :19:56.events. I don't think anybody would relish or enjoy someone questioning

:19:57. > :20:04.their reliability, they are going to try and save the witnesses telling

:20:05. > :20:08.lies. I have got to go, goodbye. Goodbye, darling. We all love you.

:20:09. > :20:14.We love you. See you shortly. See you soon. I love you. It is the fear

:20:15. > :20:21.they have had all their lives that no one will believe them. It is

:20:22. > :20:40.playing to their biggest fears. You are going to be fine.

:20:41. > :21:01.She said that you grew ten feet. You did, you grew ten feet! What do

:21:02. > :21:03.victims say it is like? More often than not they say I will never do

:21:04. > :21:26.that again. Yes... The jury will deliver its verdict

:21:27. > :21:31.tomorrow. We can speak now to SAM Brown

:21:32. > :21:34.and her husband Jim who appear in tonight's documentary -

:21:35. > :21:36.Sam was abused by Jimmy Savile and reported him to the police

:21:37. > :21:39.after his death. Some of the details of this

:21:40. > :21:41.conversation will be upsetting and you may not want young children

:21:42. > :21:53.to hear everything we talk about. Thank you both somewhat coming in.

:21:54. > :22:00.You were abused by Jimmy Savile for several years. Yes. You did not talk

:22:01. > :22:05.about it for a long time. Take us back to how you first met him and

:22:06. > :22:07.what happened. I used to go to a chapel in Stoke Mandeville Hospital

:22:08. > :22:15.for evening mass on the Saturday night. And a couple of times a month

:22:16. > :22:21.he would be at chapel. I used to go into the presbytery room and collect

:22:22. > :22:25.the plate, the collection plate. While I was in there collecting my

:22:26. > :22:31.plate and waiting for the right time in the service, he used to do what

:22:32. > :22:37.he wanted to do with me while the door was open. While you could see

:22:38. > :22:43.the congregation. And that would last for as many minutes until the

:22:44. > :22:48.service was at the right time and I would go past the plate around, come

:22:49. > :22:52.back in, put the plate down and go and sit back in church. You were

:22:53. > :22:59.only actually alone with him for a matter of minutes. Yes, five minutes

:23:00. > :23:06.each time. And you and he were obviously very aware of other people

:23:07. > :23:09.out there. How did he behave? He was always very confident. I used to

:23:10. > :23:14.collect the plate, turn around and stand and look at everybody while

:23:15. > :23:19.mass was going on and on that time, I used to look at everybody and I

:23:20. > :23:24.used to shut down any of my feelings or anything that was going on while

:23:25. > :23:31.he would do what he wanted to do. Did he speak to you? No, he never

:23:32. > :23:36.really spoke to me. He would put his hands around my face and sometimes

:23:37. > :23:43.his fingers into my mouth which obviously would silence me. And...

:23:44. > :23:49.Make me realise that I had no choice. In what was happening. In

:23:50. > :23:56.all that time, he would do whatever he wanted to do with me with his

:23:57. > :24:03.hands. Do you feel he sort you out. Yes. It was clear to him... Because

:24:04. > :24:10.I already had had a lot of abuse, I knew, I think, that we all have a

:24:11. > :24:16.certain stance that we take, our body language is quite blatant to

:24:17. > :24:23.somebody who is an abuser. So we are kind of easy to pick, you know, we

:24:24. > :24:32.are eyes down, head down, closed... Show no emotion on an basis. -- on

:24:33. > :24:36.our faces. It is apparent to those who are good to see us. You had been

:24:37. > :24:44.abused by your grandfather. That is right. By the time Southall had got

:24:45. > :24:53.to me I was really well primed for that. I was an easy pick. For Jimmy

:24:54. > :25:00.Savile. That is a picture of you there as a child. We can just see

:25:01. > :25:08.it, if you look behind you. Look at yourself as a child. Yes... What did

:25:09. > :25:15.you think? Did you have a childhood? I did not. I spent my childhood

:25:16. > :25:19.hiding, scared of everything. I used to hide under cupboards, under

:25:20. > :25:27.tables, I could not have an education because I was too afraid

:25:28. > :25:32.of everything, life. I missed out on my childhood, an my whole life

:25:33. > :25:37.because I felt nothing. Everybody else remembers stuff about their

:25:38. > :25:46.childhood, I remember nothing other than pain. And sadness. And

:25:47. > :25:52.loneliness. And you couldn't put a voice to it? I did not have a voice.

:25:53. > :25:59.When you as a person... Or stripped and taken you have taken no voice. I

:26:00. > :26:05.was taught not to have a voice, I was taught not to show my emotions,

:26:06. > :26:12.I was taught not to trust anybody. My grandad was a policeman... Who

:26:13. > :26:18.did I go to? My grandad was my mother's father, could I go to my

:26:19. > :26:22.mum and tell her that her dad was abusing me, could I go to the

:26:23. > :26:28.police, he was a policeman. My teachers at school hurt me. When you

:26:29. > :26:33.say, they hurt you. Not sexually, but they would hit my head against a

:26:34. > :26:39.wall phone I could not remember tables, things like that... I

:26:40. > :26:45.suppose, for an adult to deal with the child who has nothing, no

:26:46. > :26:52.emotions, no reactions... Must be kind of hard for them. So nobody

:26:53. > :26:57.understands you. Because you are a nothing person, I was a nothing

:26:58. > :27:02.child. My mum always said I was a good child, a good, quiet child. I

:27:03. > :27:09.was a good, quiet child because I had frozen. You had a child when you

:27:10. > :27:16.were still a child, 15, you fell pregnant. She saved my life. I was

:27:17. > :27:20.in hospital with an overdose at 15 and that is how I found out I was

:27:21. > :27:25.pregnant with my eldest and she saved my life because I know I would

:27:26. > :27:30.not have been here. From 12, I tried to kill myself time and time again,

:27:31. > :27:35.put myself in situations that were sold dangerous so I did not have to

:27:36. > :27:41.get up and carry on. I did not want life. But at 15, I found out I was

:27:42. > :27:46.pregnant and I wanted life. That was the moment things changed. Yes, you

:27:47. > :27:53.did not ever expect to love a man but then Jim came into my life. It

:27:54. > :27:59.was funny, I did not even have them feelings for any man, ever, to be

:28:00. > :28:03.honest. But Jim was so kind, he worked for my mum and dad and he

:28:04. > :28:08.built a relationship with Gemma which... Because she was mine, she

:28:09. > :28:19.was just mine. But I watched him with her and... She was probably

:28:20. > :28:23.three... Five? Gradually, the two of you created a new life but inside

:28:24. > :28:30.you, your past was still there. You were coping. I had to cope, because

:28:31. > :28:34.I had a family, other people to look after. It is easy to look after

:28:35. > :28:42.other people, not to look after yourself. What happened when Jimmy

:28:43. > :28:46.Savile died, suddenly... I was in the gymnasium one day, because I had

:28:47. > :28:50.got really heavy covering myself with fat so that no one could say

:28:51. > :28:55.you look attractive or nice, my son help me with that, I went to the gym

:28:56. > :29:01.one day, and one of the trainers, and older guy, very white hair and a

:29:02. > :29:06.beard, he came in and put his arm on my shoulder and I could not move, I

:29:07. > :29:09.was on a machine. I could not move, I could not think, I felt like I

:29:10. > :29:17.could not breathe, I could not move from the treadmill and the other guy

:29:18. > :29:21.helped me off and because his picture was everywhere, it was in

:29:22. > :29:25.the paper, everyone was talking about it, I was walking past people

:29:26. > :29:33.in the street saying these are money diggers... They are making it up, it

:29:34. > :29:37.was so... There was no, for me, being able to lock things away, was

:29:38. > :29:43.the way I coped, being able to put it in a box and put it in a place,

:29:44. > :29:46.that was the way I could cope but I had no option because his image was

:29:47. > :29:52.everywhere and I could not cope and it stopped me living. I left the gym

:29:53. > :29:57.and I went to the police station and I spoke to the police about him and

:29:58. > :30:05.my grandfather. Because I was being crippled. And when did you first

:30:06. > :30:10.speak to gym about it? I cannot really remember, apparently I

:30:11. > :30:16.mentioned years ago... To be quite honest, we have never really had a

:30:17. > :30:20.conversation where she has talked. It's something in the back of my

:30:21. > :30:28.head, I know it has happened and we sort of tried to deal with it as a

:30:29. > :30:32.couple. There was no... I'd do not really want to know the ins and

:30:33. > :30:36.outs, I can imagine it, but I don't really want to be told, I don't

:30:37. > :30:42.think Sam personally wants to tell me either. But we tried to get, we

:30:43. > :30:50.go through day-to-day. As best we can. Is it hard for you,

:30:51. > :30:54.realising... You obviously knew that Sam had been through difficult

:30:55. > :31:00.times, was it hard for you to realise quite what she had been

:31:01. > :31:04.through? Yes, for a normal person, anyway, I don't mean that this

:31:05. > :31:10.respectfully, but for the person who hasn't been abused, they cannot

:31:11. > :31:17.imagine, you cannot imagine... I don't think you perceive it, the act

:31:18. > :31:26.of what it is. And I think that is where most of us struggle.

:31:27. > :31:31.Once you had had that conversation with the police, and words were

:31:32. > :31:36.coming out of your mouth that you had never voiced, did it then

:31:37. > :31:41.becomes easy to talk about it? It is way more easy to talk to a stranger,

:31:42. > :31:47.because I think my family and my friends and my husband, to give that

:31:48. > :32:08.pain to their heads isn't nice. How did you still yourself to do

:32:09. > :32:12.that? I have to... I know... I'm crying now, and I don't mean to cry,

:32:13. > :32:19.and I don't want to cry, but further this to be changed, for this to have

:32:20. > :32:28.the secrecy and the shame taken away from it, it needs to be spoken out

:32:29. > :32:34.loud, because why we are feeling our shame, and feeling... Being taught

:32:35. > :32:39.to say nothing, nothing is happening. Nobody wants to listen

:32:40. > :32:44.and nobody wants to listen because we are not being forceful enough

:32:45. > :32:53.with our choice of words. And I need to talk, because I don't want more

:32:54. > :33:01.people, adults, kids, anybody, having to find their way through

:33:02. > :33:06.life inside dead. I don't want that. You talk about shame, and everybody

:33:07. > :33:12.would say you should absolutely feel no shame. But you do. It is my

:33:13. > :33:18.shame, because why didn't I turn around and say, get off me, I don't

:33:19. > :33:23.like this? Why didn't I do that? Why didn't I say to somebody else, you

:33:24. > :33:26.need to help me, because this is not right? Therefore I have done

:33:27. > :33:33.something wrong, and that is what it feels like. Have you been able to

:33:34. > :33:43.overcome that? Yes. I know it is not my shame, but it still feels my

:33:44. > :33:50.shame. Have of your family been? Fantastic. I family are fantastic,

:33:51. > :33:55.but it wasn't until I enabled them to be fantastic, and that was really

:33:56. > :34:02.hard. Having to say to them, listen, I'm not having a good day, but women

:34:03. > :34:08.are strong, and men. To admit to somebody else that you are really

:34:09. > :34:14.having a hard time is hard, because it is weakness, because you are

:34:15. > :34:19.taught not to do it, it is so against... Me showing emotion is so

:34:20. > :34:26.against how I was brought up. I was brought up to show no emotion, not

:34:27. > :34:35.to be weak. This goes against every rule for me, this crying. But my

:34:36. > :34:38.family have been great, when I have been honest and said, I need help,

:34:39. > :34:41.I'm not having a great day, they have been there, but I didn't give

:34:42. > :34:45.them the opportunity years ago when I should have done to support me,

:34:46. > :34:56.because I couldn't find the right words to ask for that help. It is

:34:57. > :35:03.tricksy. Helen has texted to say, well done to this brave lady, it is

:35:04. > :35:07.wonderful to hear a strong voice for the victims, I myself have made lots

:35:08. > :35:11.of changes, keep up your strength. And an anonymous text, I was abused

:35:12. > :35:15.from the age of four by my stepfather for nine years, it never

:35:16. > :35:17.goes away, you have flashbacks, mental health issues and you

:35:18. > :35:21.generally don't feel worth anything all of your life. These men still

:35:22. > :35:26.think it doesn't matter, kids forget, but we don't. Esther says, a

:35:27. > :35:31.heartbreaking story, I can't imagine the bravery it takes to come forward

:35:32. > :35:37.and discuss sexual abuse. Linda says, absolutely heartbreaking, may

:35:38. > :35:44.he rot in hell, no forgiveness. When you see pictures of him now, how do

:35:45. > :35:48.you feel? I don't know. I try not to look, to be honest. When the report

:35:49. > :35:53.came out, I couldn't watch it when it was on the news, because half of

:35:54. > :36:01.it was yourself speaking, and the rest of the screen was filled with

:36:02. > :36:14.his picture, so... I don't like to look. I want to listen, but that is

:36:15. > :36:19.just too disgusting for me. Thank you for talking to us. We will be

:36:20. > :36:25.talking again after the news, and we will also be talking to other people

:36:26. > :36:34.who have been involved in the aftermath, the watershed ad is -- as

:36:35. > :36:35.it is being called, it came to prominence after his death, so do

:36:36. > :36:44.stay with us for that. Now let's catch up with the days

:36:45. > :36:45.news, Maxine is in the newsroom. Joanna, thank you for stop good

:36:46. > :36:47.morning. The BBC has learned

:36:48. > :36:49.that the Chancellor, George Osborne, may publish his tax returns

:36:50. > :36:51.in the next few days. It comes as David Cameron will today

:36:52. > :36:54.face MPs for the first time since the leaking of

:36:55. > :36:56.the Panama Papers which exposed the extent to which offshore

:36:57. > :36:59.companies are used to hide money Mr Cameron will announce plans

:37:00. > :37:13.to create a new criminal offence committed by companies that fail

:37:14. > :37:21.to do enough to stop staff helping Caesar's wife must be above

:37:22. > :37:26.suspicion, and if you are managing the countries affairs and voting on

:37:27. > :37:30.them, then the electorate want to know that you're doing it properly

:37:31. > :37:33.and appropriately. I think it is a pity we have lost privacy, but it is

:37:34. > :37:34.politicians' fault because we lost the trust of the public over the

:37:35. > :37:37.expenses affair. The former Defence Secretary Liam

:37:38. > :37:40.Fox has called for those campaigning to leave the European Union to be

:37:41. > :37:43.allowed to include their views in the controversial EU referendum

:37:44. > :37:45.leaflet that's being mailed The document, which will set out

:37:46. > :38:02.the Government's case for staying in the EU,

:38:03. > :38:05.is costing the taxpayer ?9 million and the first batches will be

:38:06. > :38:07.delivered to households MPs campaigning to leave are also

:38:08. > :38:11.expected to call in parliament today for changes to the Finance Bill,

:38:12. > :38:14.to secure an extra nine-million in funding for their

:38:15. > :38:15.campaign to compensate. More than 200,000 members

:38:16. > :38:18.of the public have signed a petition demanding the mailing

:38:19. > :38:21.is cancelled altogether. A deal that would safeguard

:38:22. > :38:23.the future of the Tata steelworks in Scunthorpe is expected

:38:24. > :38:25.to be signed today. It's thought the investment

:38:26. > :38:27.firm, Greybull Capital, will announce the sale,

:38:28. > :38:28.following nine months Also today, Tata is also

:38:29. > :38:32.expected to begin the formal process of selling the rest

:38:33. > :38:36.of its loss-making UK plants. If the Scunthorpe deal is approved,

:38:37. > :38:55.it will secure about 4,000 jobs. The global population of wild tigers

:38:56. > :39:00.has gone up from an estimated 3220 ten to nearly 4000 today. The

:39:01. > :39:02.environment organisation is attributing the rise to better

:39:03. > :39:09.conservation efforts in countries such as India and Russia. That is a

:39:10. > :39:12.summary of the latest BBC News. I will have more for you at ten. Now

:39:13. > :39:18.back to Joanna. Begu, Maxine. Let's catch up with

:39:19. > :39:25.the sport, and Olly Foster has the details. Sheffield's Danny Willett

:39:26. > :39:29.is the Masters champion. He finished three shots clear of his compatriot

:39:30. > :39:34.Lee Westwood, and is the first British player to win at Augusta in

:39:35. > :39:38.20 years. The reigning champion Jordan Speith throw away a five shot

:39:39. > :39:41.lead with nine to play. Leicester City are still seven points clear at

:39:42. > :39:46.the top of the Premier League after beating Sunderland 2-0. Jamie Vardy

:39:47. > :39:49.scored both goals. They are guaranteed Champions League football

:39:50. > :39:54.next season, because fifth placed Manchester United lost to Tottenham

:39:55. > :39:59.3-0. With five games to play, Spurs are still Leicester's nearest

:40:00. > :40:03.challengers. And it has been a great week for Rangers, after promotion to

:40:04. > :40:07.the Scottish Premiership yesterday they won the Challenge Cup against

:40:08. > :40:13.Peterhead 4-0. They face Celtic next weekend. I'm back after ten with

:40:14. > :40:20.that chat with Danny Willett's parents, I hope. Thank you very

:40:21. > :40:23.much, Olly Foster. Let's go back to our conversation about historical

:40:24. > :40:28.sex abuse and the watershed moment it created for victims of child

:40:29. > :40:32.sexual abuse. Jenna has e-mailed to say, I have never written to show

:40:33. > :40:37.before, but I felt I really wanted to say how amazing the lady is. Sam

:40:38. > :40:43.is it with this talking to us about her past. She wishes you all the

:40:44. > :40:57.best for the future. Sam and Jim still with us,.

:40:58. > :41:01.Also with us is Alison Levitt QC who worked for the Crown Prosecution

:41:02. > :41:03.Service at the time of Savile's death as well as Andy Connolly,

:41:04. > :41:06.a counsellor for survivors of sexual abuse, and Louise Exton

:41:07. > :41:10.The death of Jimmy Savile is being talked about as a watershed moment

:41:11. > :41:13.for people like you and others in encouraging people to come forward.

:41:14. > :41:20.Does it feel that way to you? The best thing to come out of him is the

:41:21. > :41:26.fact that there has been so many people have spoken out, asked for

:41:27. > :41:33.help and told their people they love, that is the positive out of

:41:34. > :41:35.all of this. Louise, when the allegations first started to emerge

:41:36. > :41:44.after the death of Jimmy Savile, what happened? Certainly far as the

:41:45. > :41:47.helpline at NSPCC, we saw a huge increase in contact from adults who

:41:48. > :41:51.wanted to talk about their experiences in childhood, many of

:41:52. > :41:54.whom had never had spoken to anybody about it, whether that was family or

:41:55. > :41:59.professionals, they had never told anybody. And it really enabled them

:42:00. > :42:04.to come forward and talk about what happened to them and start to deal

:42:05. > :42:06.with some of those feelings and understand that it wasn't their

:42:07. > :42:10.fault and they shouldn't be feeling ashamed for what happened. So much

:42:11. > :42:14.of what Sam has been saying there was echoed by the people that we

:42:15. > :42:19.spoke to at the time who had very similar feelings that they now felt

:42:20. > :42:24.able to come forward and talk about. Were you surprised that so mini

:42:25. > :42:27.people were coming forward? I don't know that we were surprised that

:42:28. > :42:32.there were so many people who had had those experiences. I think

:42:33. > :42:39.obviously the scale of what it unlocked was unexpected to us to

:42:40. > :42:43.some extent. The fact that that one moment was so significant in

:42:44. > :42:48.allowing people to come forward, I think was really important. Andy, it

:42:49. > :42:52.unlocked people's silence, didn't it? Or at least the silence for

:42:53. > :42:58.many. How does it impact on somebody when they have something they felt

:42:59. > :43:04.they could live with, but clearly it has caused them all sorts of issues,

:43:05. > :43:11.and then they have managed to finally speak out about it? I think

:43:12. > :43:15.it can be really devastating. Many people who've experienced abuse,

:43:16. > :43:18.their way of coping will be to kind of repress those memories or to put

:43:19. > :43:24.them at the back of their mind. And then we talk about triggers to

:43:25. > :43:28.disclosing, that often is with the death of the abuser or the break-up

:43:29. > :43:34.of a relationship or something like that, and in this case, I think many

:43:35. > :43:39.people were potentially triggered by something that was so outside of

:43:40. > :43:43.their control, it was really a massive thing, and it is a massive

:43:44. > :43:50.thing to come forward and talk about it, it is a very vulnerable position

:43:51. > :43:54.to be in. And the trigger fee was a traumatic one, when his picture was

:43:55. > :43:58.everywhere and people were talking about the same thing that happened

:43:59. > :44:03.to you. Had you fairly successfully been able to live with feelings in a

:44:04. > :44:09.box until then? Yes, I had. But everybody that knew me, I was really

:44:10. > :44:16.good at being a normal person, functioning well, but I did all of

:44:17. > :44:22.my functioning dead inside. Alison, after Jimmy Savile died, your job

:44:23. > :44:26.was to look at whether anyone had actually spoken out in his lifetime,

:44:27. > :44:31.and what happened if that had been the case. Tell us what you

:44:32. > :44:35.uncovered. We knew that there were four complaints made when he was

:44:36. > :44:39.still alive, and a decision had been made that there was insufficient

:44:40. > :44:44.evidence to prosecute him. I was asked to look at those decisions and

:44:45. > :44:49.see whether they were right or not. It took awhile. Those things had to

:44:50. > :44:54.be unpicked, but as I did so, I had a growing sense of horror, really,

:44:55. > :44:56.that I knew that the decisions were wrong, the complaints that had been

:44:57. > :45:01.made were obviously credible, but in the case of each of them, what each

:45:02. > :45:07.of them said was, I don't want to do this if it's just about me. And what

:45:08. > :45:12.undoubtably well-meaning police officers, and that in the way is the

:45:13. > :45:15.sadness of it, very well-meaning investigators took the decision not

:45:16. > :45:20.to tell them that there were others because of the risk of, I think,

:45:21. > :45:24.contaminating the evidence. And when I spoke to each of the victims

:45:25. > :45:28.after, as part of my investigation, each of them said to me, had they

:45:29. > :45:33.known there had been others, they might have been prepared, would have

:45:34. > :45:37.been prepared to support a prosecution, and I wanted to ask

:45:38. > :45:42.Sam, we have all been amazingly touched by listening to what she

:45:43. > :45:46.says, and very admiring of your ability to find your voice and say,

:45:47. > :45:51.I will not be silenced by this. If you had known when Jimmy Savile was

:45:52. > :45:54.alive that there were other victims who might have been prepared to say

:45:55. > :45:59.something, might it have made a difference to you? It would have

:46:00. > :46:04.made a massive difference to me. Because people in my position think

:46:05. > :46:08.it is just them. What you think might have happened? De think you

:46:09. > :46:13.might have said something? I do, yes, I do think I would have said

:46:14. > :46:16.something. I find that a terrible sadness, and it makes me angry, it

:46:17. > :46:21.makes me determined that we really have to do something about this and

:46:22. > :46:25.to help women like Sam, men as well, there are men out there who were

:46:26. > :46:30.abused, to find a voice and say that they will not be made to keep quiet.

:46:31. > :46:37.And your report did lead to an overhaul the way situations will be

:46:38. > :46:41.handled in the future? We saw a number of parallels, it wasn't just

:46:42. > :46:45.cases involving well-known people like Jimmy Savile, but there were

:46:46. > :46:49.similarities in the way for example the child grooming cases in Rochdale

:46:50. > :46:53.and Rotherham, similar sorts of issues had arisen there. Where for

:46:54. > :46:57.example, the police would rather than looking at the credibility of

:46:58. > :47:00.the complaint that was being made, they were looking at the character

:47:01. > :47:05.of the person making it and if they thought that person is not going to

:47:06. > :47:10.be very believable, they have been drinking, they have been taking

:47:11. > :47:15.drugs, they have been children in dare, they have been truanting.

:47:16. > :47:18.There is another issue about repeat victimisation and Sam touched on

:47:19. > :47:22.this. We know through research that people who are victims of sexual

:47:23. > :47:26.abuse are likely to have been victims on repeat occasions. And

:47:27. > :47:30.yet, many people think that common sense says, "Oh well, if you have

:47:31. > :47:35.made a complaint before and it wasn't taken forward, it means you

:47:36. > :47:40.are lying. Lightening doesn't strike twice." That's a myth that the

:47:41. > :47:43.Criminal Justice System are trying to eradicate from our thinking. Do

:47:44. > :47:47.you think the conspiracy of silence ends because of what has happened

:47:48. > :47:51.here, people speaking out and it will lead to a child potentially

:47:52. > :47:58.like Sam, who thought she was the only person out there, realising, it

:47:59. > :48:01.is something that's out there. Do things change materially going

:48:02. > :48:05.forward? I wouldn't say that things changed that significantly. I mean,

:48:06. > :48:10.they have improved, but talking about the myths around sexual abuse

:48:11. > :48:15.and rape, at Survivors UK we work with male victims of sexual abuse

:48:16. > :48:18.and sexual violence and there are so many myths that go around that

:48:19. > :48:22.people really invest in and believe in, things like that, you know, this

:48:23. > :48:26.doesn't happen to men at all first of all or that men can take care of

:48:27. > :48:32.themselves, men can protect themselves and that can really get

:48:33. > :48:37.internalised by the survivors, why wasn't I able to protect myself? Why

:48:38. > :48:41.wasn't I able to stop this? A common myth that arises this relation to

:48:42. > :48:45.trials of these things, if the victim has no injuries then members

:48:46. > :48:50.of the public, who have never been in this situation which may include

:48:51. > :48:56.jurors would say, "If someone attacked me like this, I would have

:48:57. > :49:00.fought back." What they don't realise the freeze response may set

:49:01. > :49:04.in and you maybe incapable of fighting back. Jurors may say,

:49:05. > :49:08."Well, if you have got no injuries, that must mean you are not a genuine

:49:09. > :49:12.victim." That's an example of a myth. It is difficult for men who

:49:13. > :49:15.will have the same freeze response in certain situations to try and

:49:16. > :49:19.explain why they don't have injuries. So many people getting in

:49:20. > :49:26.touch with messages directly for you, Sam. Ah, thank you. Dawn says,

:49:27. > :49:32."I cannot put into words how powerfully the broadcast on Savile

:49:33. > :49:37.abuse reached me. I was abused by a local celebrity. One of the issues I

:49:38. > :49:40.have not been able to deal with is the treatment by the police. People

:49:41. > :49:46.should speak out about this. I would, if given the chance." Gary

:49:47. > :49:53.tweeted, "Such power words from the guests on your show." LJ Hunter,

:49:54. > :49:57."How brave is Sam's story? It is a process to talk to counsellors."

:49:58. > :50:02.Dougie says, "What a brave lady to come on and tell her story.

:50:03. > :50:07.Hopefully she will inspire others to do like wise and step out of the

:50:08. > :50:11.shadow." Another viewer says, "Tell Sam what a brave lady. The thoughts

:50:12. > :50:16.are with her and her family. Well done, Sam. You are truly amazing."

:50:17. > :50:20.Donald says, "This woman is so brave. Everything is true including

:50:21. > :50:22.the self inflicted shame that never goes away." Thank you for coming in

:50:23. > :50:27.and talking to us. Abused, the Untold Story

:50:28. > :50:29.is on BBC One tonight at 8.30pm. Still to come: Last year the odds

:50:30. > :50:35.on Leicester City winning Now they're just three wins away

:50:36. > :50:41.from the top of the league. We'll hear from two fans who have

:50:42. > :50:43.been keeping video diaries about their club's remarkable

:50:44. > :50:48.turnaround. Who are the celebrity couple

:50:49. > :50:52.who have taken out an injunction They've been named in Scotland,

:50:53. > :50:59.but pressure mounts on the pair for the ban to be lifted

:51:00. > :51:01.across the whole of the UK. One MP may name the celebrity today,

:51:02. > :51:14.we will bring you what we can. David Cameron has endured one

:51:15. > :51:16.of his most challenging weeks - culminating in him becoming

:51:17. > :51:18.the first British Prime Minister ever to make public his tax returns

:51:19. > :51:24.for the last six years. The Chancellor George Osborne

:51:25. > :51:27.is likely, the BBC has learned, to follow his example and publish

:51:28. > :51:29.details of his own. Despite Mr Cameron's unprecedented

:51:30. > :51:33.move, critics are now asking about the specifics of the return

:51:34. > :51:36.including a gift from his Today he'll appear before MPs

:51:37. > :51:39.to propose toughening up the rules on companies that help

:51:40. > :51:43.clients evade tax. He'll hope it could draw a line

:51:44. > :51:46.under the row, but will it? Joining us now are two members

:51:47. > :51:49.of the Treasury Select Committee. The Labour MP Wes Streeting,

:51:50. > :51:52.who thinks Mr Cameron has more questions to answer,

:51:53. > :52:03.and Conservative MP Mark Garnier So Wes Streeting, where are you now

:52:04. > :52:07.having seen everything unfold as it has and David Cameron's tax returns

:52:08. > :52:11.out there? Well, you think David Cameron's reputation has taken a

:52:12. > :52:14.battering in the last week and probably frustratingly for the Prime

:52:15. > :52:19.Minister and some of the people around him, the issues being made

:52:20. > :52:24.were not so much by the content of his own tax arrangements but by his

:52:25. > :52:27.chiviness in refuse to go answer initially at all any questions about

:52:28. > :52:30.his tax affairs and over the course of the week gradually having the

:52:31. > :52:33.information dragged out of him and I think what we need to see today he

:52:34. > :52:38.is doing a statement to the House of Commons this afternoon, I think to

:52:39. > :52:42.rebuild his own credibility, some concrete proposals to tackle, not

:52:43. > :52:47.just illegal tax evasion, which still takes place and is illegal,

:52:48. > :52:51.but also aggressive tax avoidance which David Cameron himself argued

:52:52. > :52:55.is immoral, but legal and I think that there is action the Government

:52:56. > :52:58.can take, not just domestically, but internationally. So I'm calling on

:52:59. > :53:02.David Cameron to make sure the issue of tax havens for example is on the

:53:03. > :53:05.agenda of his own anticorruption summit next month so the public can

:53:06. > :53:10.have confidence when David Cameron says that this sort of action is

:53:11. > :53:15.immoral that he is going to take action to effectively tackling it.

:53:16. > :53:18.Mark, where do you stand on this? Well, I certainly think I would

:53:19. > :53:23.agree with David Cameron himself that he probably has no career in

:53:24. > :53:27.public relations and media handling after he stops being Prime Minister.

:53:28. > :53:32.The problem with this is the whole debate has sort of spun into some

:53:33. > :53:41.sort of furious tornado of confusion. Wes is right, we need to

:53:42. > :53:44.bear down on aggressive tax evasion or tax avoidance because it is where

:53:45. > :53:48.you use the letter of the law to avoid the spirit of the law, what

:53:49. > :53:51.David Cameron has done in terms of investing into the off-shore

:53:52. > :53:55.investment trusts and unit trusts is actually no different than probably

:53:56. > :53:58.everybody who has a pension scheme does in this country where they will

:53:59. > :54:03.probably benefit by the pension scheme making investments into these

:54:04. > :54:08.funds which are legal. This is what we need to get clear. Wes Streeting?

:54:09. > :54:11.One of the issue we have got around tax havens is they are used by

:54:12. > :54:15.wealthy individuals and multinational corporations to manage

:54:16. > :54:18.their own tax arrangements in ways that minimises their tax leuct and

:54:19. > :54:22.that's not just having an impact on the UK, whereas we know, public

:54:23. > :54:26.finances are tight. We could do with that money, it is also having a

:54:27. > :54:30.really significant impact on developing countries and I think I

:54:31. > :54:36.saw a report that said something like $170 billion worth of money is

:54:37. > :54:39.sitting in tax havens that probably should have been paid to developing

:54:40. > :54:43.countries and when you think about how much this country for example

:54:44. > :54:46.commits to those countries through oversea aid budgets and

:54:47. > :54:49.international development, I think we would all agree that the

:54:50. > :54:53.objective of development is to try and make sure that these countries

:54:54. > :54:58.can stand on their own two feet and if we allow wealthy individuals and

:54:59. > :55:00.corporations to avoid their tax liabilities, not just to this

:55:01. > :55:06.country, but to developing countries, it has a detrimental

:55:07. > :55:10.impact and somehow, you know, ordinary taxpayers in this country

:55:11. > :55:15.who don't have the luxury of determining how much tax they pay

:55:16. > :55:25.end up footing the bill. Wes that's not true. The problem is and I agree

:55:26. > :55:28.a lot of what you said. Again, we are confusing three points. The

:55:29. > :55:31.first is this secrecy bit which is illegal. We are trying to clamp down

:55:32. > :55:34.on secrecy, that's right. The second point you made is about corporation

:55:35. > :55:39.tax and Britain is leading the way in trying to deal with the

:55:40. > :55:41.corporation tax with the base erosion and payment shifting

:55:42. > :55:45.investigations of which we are the chair of that with 90 countries

:55:46. > :55:49.around the world. The third part is this whole business of tax planning

:55:50. > :55:52.and tax planning is what everybody who uses an Isa or a pension or

:55:53. > :55:58.anything else does and actually the reason we have the investment trusts

:55:59. > :56:04.and unit trusts and you know and if you look at I shares, the tradable

:56:05. > :56:07.funds listed on the London Stock Exchange they are domiciled in

:56:08. > :56:10.Dublin which is a tax haven and the reason we have these collective

:56:11. > :56:15.investment schemes in these tax havens is so we don't introduce an

:56:16. > :56:19.extra layer of tax which would prohibit people from investing in

:56:20. > :56:21.them which would therefore prohibit this money going into things like

:56:22. > :56:26.British businesses and British industry where they create millions

:56:27. > :56:30.of jobs and those jobs and those activities in turn generate huge

:56:31. > :56:35.amounts of tax receipts. I want to get the thoughts from both of you on

:56:36. > :56:38.the publication of tax returns. David Cameron is doing it. Nigel

:56:39. > :56:44.Farage is the only party leader who said he won't. What do you think? Is

:56:45. > :56:48.it a good thing? Should it end up with all MPs publishing their tax

:56:49. > :56:55.returns as Jacobries mooing indicated this morning? -- Jacob

:56:56. > :56:58.Rhys Mogg? I'm not sure that people will get what they want through the

:56:59. > :57:02.publication of tax returns because tax returns tell you a certain

:57:03. > :57:05.amount about people's tax affairs, particularly how much tax they're

:57:06. > :57:09.paying in any given year. What it doesn't do is give you a complete

:57:10. > :57:13.picture about how people are managing their tax affairs overall.

:57:14. > :57:18.On illegal tax evasion for example, that wouldn't show up by definition

:57:19. > :57:27.on the tax returns. So I think where I'd like to see the debate really

:57:28. > :57:31.concentrated is on how we tackle the thorny issue of tax reform.

:57:32. > :57:36.Successive governments tried to wrestle with this. We are better off

:57:37. > :57:39.thinking about how we fix the system rather than publishing MPs tax

:57:40. > :57:45.returns is going to make a difference. Mark, your thoughts on

:57:46. > :57:49.the publishing the tax returns? Unless you publish the tax returns

:57:50. > :57:56.of the family as well, you are not going to get a full picture. There

:57:57. > :57:58.is a more important point. Is that actually if you treat members of

:57:59. > :58:02.Parliament different from everybody else who have a right to tax

:58:03. > :58:06.privacy, you're putting members of Parliament, if you like, on the

:58:07. > :58:09.naughty stair. We want more people to come into politics. Wet want to

:58:10. > :58:13.encourage good, honest, deisn't people to come into politics and if

:58:14. > :58:18.we send a message to those people who are thinking about it that

:58:19. > :58:21.actually you're regarded as a lower level of humanity that can't be

:58:22. > :58:25.trusted, then we're going to be driving away really good people and

:58:26. > :58:30.this is something we have to be very, very careful of. Thank you.

:58:31. > :58:32.Steel workers in Scunthorpe are hoping a new deal

:58:33. > :58:48.Now the latest weather update with Alex. Thank you very much, Joanna.

:58:49. > :58:51.There is plenty going on with the weather at the moment. Certainly

:58:52. > :58:55.some sunshine around yesterday, but as well as that, there were stormy

:58:56. > :58:59.conditions to be had across the far south-west of England. Some problems

:59:00. > :59:03.across Devon and Cornwall. Strong winds and unusually strong for the

:59:04. > :59:09.time of year. 60mph gusts that really whipped up the seas and the

:59:10. > :59:14.area of low pressure responsible for both the strong winds and the big

:59:15. > :59:17.seas was the spring tides. They caused problems across Devon and

:59:18. > :59:23.Cornwall throughout the course of Sunday. Things have calmed down

:59:24. > :59:28.overnight and today, thankfully. Thankfully it is a lot calmer.

:59:29. > :59:31.Overall the far south-west of England should stay dry today, but

:59:32. > :59:34.other parts of the UK not faring quite so well. There is a lot of

:59:35. > :59:37.cloud around across Northern Ireland, Wales and down into

:59:38. > :59:43.southern parts of England. A stripe of rain if you like that's really

:59:44. > :59:46.not moving very far, very quickly. This zone staying soggy throughout.

:59:47. > :59:50.There will be showers throughout Eastern Scotland. Across the far

:59:51. > :59:55.north-west it should stay fine and dry. There should be sunshine across

:59:56. > :59:58.the Highlands of Scotland. A chilly wind blowing too, keeping the

:59:59. > :00:01.temperatures in single figures from Aberdeen down Edinburgh. There is

:00:02. > :00:04.that area of rain across Northern Ireland and sitting across much of

:00:05. > :00:07.Wales to the north-west of England, some rain this morning. It is

:00:08. > :00:10.brightening up here and the Lancashire coast may see the top

:00:11. > :00:14.temperatures today 16 Celsius or 17 Celsius is possible, but soggy under

:00:15. > :00:19.this band of rain through parts of the Midlands, Southern England and

:00:20. > :00:26.the far south-west. Now the line of rain, just sort of

:00:27. > :00:30.pivots around. The rain returns to Northern England and pushes into

:00:31. > :00:34.Southern Scotland and Northern Ireland. To the south, generally

:00:35. > :00:40.dry. It may turny misty and generally dry and not a cold night.

:00:41. > :00:43.The area of rain then is around tomorrow bringing for dull damp

:00:44. > :00:46.conditions for Northern Ireland, central and Southern Scotland and

:00:47. > :00:50.for Northern Ireland. Rain on and off. For the south, sunshine, but

:00:51. > :00:53.the potential for really big and beefy showers to develop as

:00:54. > :00:57.temperatures again get into the mid-teens. Some warmth in the south.

:00:58. > :01:01.Further north with the cloud and the rain it will be cold particularly on

:01:02. > :01:04.the North Sea coasts with the winds coming in from the east. All from an

:01:05. > :01:09.area of low pressure dominating, but sitting well to the south-west of

:01:10. > :01:12.the UK, but it is controlling. This wriggling weather front will mark

:01:13. > :01:15.the boundary between something colder across the north and

:01:16. > :01:18.something drier and warmer to the south, but where the weather front

:01:19. > :01:23.lies, there will be cloud and outbreaks of rain. Again across

:01:24. > :01:27.parts of Northern Britain and the potential for warmth and sunshine,

:01:28. > :01:28.but big potentially powerful April downpours. That's the way it's

:01:29. > :01:32.looking. I'm Joanna Gosling in for

:01:33. > :01:36.Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme

:01:37. > :01:50.if you've just joined us. MPs are falling over themselves to

:01:51. > :01:54.publish their tax affairs, but does it restore our trust in them? And we

:01:55. > :02:02.hear from one woman, Sam Branca, who said the abuse she suffered as a

:02:03. > :02:07.girl by Jimmy Savile caused her years of damage.

:02:08. > :02:10.I missed out on a whole childhood, missed out on a whole

:02:11. > :02:12.Everyone else remembers their childhood.

:02:13. > :02:18.I remember nothing except pain and sadness and loneliness.

:02:19. > :02:22.Lots of you getting in touch about Sam's story, and you can watch her

:02:23. > :02:25.interview on our programme page. You can hear her full story

:02:26. > :02:28.on our programme page bbc.co.uk/victoria and there's more

:02:29. > :02:36.tonight on the BBC One documentary Plus, Ayeeshia Jane Smith, murdered

:02:37. > :02:40.by her mother, and an MP is calling for an independent enquiry into her

:02:41. > :02:43.death. And an American mother says she is facing deportation because

:02:44. > :02:53.her British husband of nine years is earning less than ?18,600, the Home

:02:54. > :02:54.Office threshold that would mean she could stay. We will hear from her

:02:55. > :03:03.before the end of the programme. Let's bring you right up with all of

:03:04. > :03:16.the day's news. Maxine is in the newsroom.

:03:17. > :03:18.Treasury sources say that the Chancellor, George Osborne,

:03:19. > :03:20.may publish his tax returns in the next few days.

:03:21. > :03:23.It comes as David Cameron will today face MPs for the first

:03:24. > :03:25.time since the leaking of the Panama Papers which exposed

:03:26. > :03:28.the extent to which offshore companies are used to hide money

:03:29. > :03:32.Mr Cameron will announce plans to toughen up the rules on companies

:03:33. > :03:35.that don't do enough to stop staff helping clients evade tax.

:03:36. > :03:36.One senior backbencher explained the pressure

:03:37. > :03:46.The argument for doing so is that Caesar's wife must be above

:03:47. > :03:49.suspicion, and if you are managing the country's affairs, the

:03:50. > :03:53.electorate want to know you are doing it properly and independently.

:03:54. > :03:59.I think it is a pity we have lost privacy, but some extent it is

:04:00. > :04:01.politicians' fault because we lost the trust of the public over the

:04:02. > :04:06.expensive affair -- expenses affair. The former Defence Secretary Liam

:04:07. > :04:09.Fox has called for those campaigning to leave the European Union to be

:04:10. > :04:12.allowed to include their views in the controversial EU referendum

:04:13. > :04:14.leaflet that's being mailed The document, which will set out

:04:15. > :04:18.the Government's case for staying in the EU, is costing

:04:19. > :04:20.the taxpayer ?9 million, and the first batches will be

:04:21. > :04:22.delivered to households MPs campaigning to leave are also

:04:23. > :04:26.expected to call in Parliament today for changes to the Finance Bill,

:04:27. > :04:29.to secure an extra ?9 million in funding for their

:04:30. > :04:33.campaign to compensate. More than 200,000 members

:04:34. > :04:35.of the public have signed a petition demanding the mailing

:04:36. > :04:40.is cancelled altogether. A deal that would safeguard

:04:41. > :04:43.the future of the Tata steelworks in Scunthorpe is expected

:04:44. > :04:45.to be signed today. It's thought the investment

:04:46. > :04:48.firm, Greybull Capital, will announce the sale,

:04:49. > :04:50.following nine months Also today, Tata is also

:04:51. > :04:58.expected to begin the formal process of selling the rest

:04:59. > :05:01.of its loss-making UK plants. If the Scunthorpe deal is approved,

:05:02. > :05:13.it will secure about 4,000 jobs. It secures future of Scunthorpe, our

:05:14. > :05:19.communities, the workforce, contract workforce. We are talking 30 or

:05:20. > :05:23.40,000 jobs saved, a community that can carry on, the council still

:05:24. > :05:28.receiving their taxes to pay their workers, it is massive for the town.

:05:29. > :05:30.Around 7,000 pupils in Edinburgh will not be

:05:31. > :05:33.able to return to school from the holidays today

:05:34. > :05:34.because of concerns that school buildings may

:05:35. > :05:44.17 schools have been closed until further notice.

:05:45. > :05:52.One of Jimmy Savile's victims told this programme how Jimmy Savile

:05:53. > :05:55.singled her out for abuse. She is one of several victims to speak out

:05:56. > :05:59.tonight in a BBC One panorama documentary. It features people

:06:00. > :06:04.speaking about about their abuse for the first time, and the impact that

:06:05. > :06:11.coming forward has had on them and their families. Sam Brown described

:06:12. > :06:16.how Savill abused her. He would put his hands around my face, and

:06:17. > :06:24.sometimes his fingers into my mouth, which obviously would silence me.

:06:25. > :06:30.And make me realise that I had no choice in what was happening. In all

:06:31. > :06:33.that time, he would do whatever he wanted to do with me.

:06:34. > :06:35.The writer and convicted drug smuggler, Howard Marks,

:06:36. > :06:40.He came to prominence for his best-selling

:06:41. > :06:43.memoir of his exploits, called Mr Nice.

:06:44. > :06:45.It was published in 1996, a year after he was released

:06:46. > :06:55.He served seven years of a 25-year jail sentence for drugs offences.

:06:56. > :06:59.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:07:00. > :07:06.Now back to Joanna. So many of you getting in touch with us this

:07:07. > :07:11.morning after my interview earlier with Sam who was abused by Jimmy

:07:12. > :07:15.Savile from the age of 11 to 14. An anonymous text says I send my

:07:16. > :07:18.heartfelt thoughts on love to Sam. I can relate as it happened to me

:07:19. > :07:23.through my childhood at the hands of a family member. It is hard to speak

:07:24. > :07:30.of this in public, bless you, and I send you much love. Another

:07:31. > :07:35.anonymous text, such a brave lady to speak on television, I have a

:07:36. > :07:38.historic abuse case coming up, we reported hours before Jimmy Savile,

:07:39. > :07:47.six years to get to court, another few months to weight. I will be 55

:07:48. > :07:51.before this can be a new era for us, I still freezing trigger situations.

:07:52. > :07:56.Sam's strength for the radiator victims, and I hope I will be a bit

:07:57. > :07:59.to do this, too. Carroll says, I was abused by my grandfather from the

:08:00. > :08:03.age of four years old, I dreaded seeing him even from a distance, he

:08:04. > :08:08.blighted my life completely. I have talked about this to several people,

:08:09. > :08:12.but you never forget. Sam is a remarkable lady, the voice of our

:08:13. > :08:16.childhood which we missed out on. Thank you for all of your comments.

:08:17. > :08:21.Lots of you getting in touch on that, and we do read all of your

:08:22. > :08:24.messages. If you want to get in touch, please do remember the

:08:25. > :08:39.hashtag. You can also see the interview with

:08:40. > :08:43.Sam again on the programme page. Let's catch up with all the sport,

:08:44. > :08:48.and Olly Foster has news of the memorable Masters from British golf.

:08:49. > :08:56.Sheffield's Danny Willett won the first major of the year last night,

:08:57. > :08:58.in an enthralling final round in Augusta as the reigning champion

:08:59. > :09:03.Jordan Speith throw away a five shot lead at the turn. It made for an

:09:04. > :09:16.Wael biting final few holes, but Danny Willett won by three shots. We

:09:17. > :09:21.can talk to Steve and Elisabet, Danny's parents. You are moving from

:09:22. > :09:25.Sheffield to Anglesey, where you have retired, so you weren't at

:09:26. > :09:31.Augusta. How did you take it in? The first thing we set up was the

:09:32. > :09:34.television! And what were the emotions as you're watching him do

:09:35. > :09:39.what he was doing? Excitement, absolute terror, particularly when

:09:40. > :09:42.he finished his round and had no more control over what was

:09:43. > :09:48.happening. Those last 40 minutes were a nightmare, wondering if

:09:49. > :09:53.Jordan Spieth could come back. But that is done, and he didn't. He

:09:54. > :10:00.didn't, but you never quite trusted that he wouldn't. We saw the

:10:01. > :10:03.pictures of Danny waiting in the scorers' hut, and he was faced

:10:04. > :10:08.tanning his wife and then he was mobbed by his caddie, here we go,

:10:09. > :10:13.that was the moment, we are just seeing that now, when Jordan Spieth

:10:14. > :10:20.missed that putt. Amazing pictures, you must have wished you were there.

:10:21. > :10:24.When his caddie caning and threw his arms around him, that was the best

:10:25. > :10:29.shot on television. We have dreams about this Valentine. When we were

:10:30. > :10:37.aware that he could probably make a living out of playing golf? I think

:10:38. > :10:40.when he went to America. We knew he was good, but you don't know how

:10:41. > :10:43.good until people pit themselves against other people, but when he

:10:44. > :10:47.went to America and went right at the top of the amateur world

:10:48. > :10:53.rankings, we thought, this isn't just a flash in the pan. He held

:10:54. > :10:56.that position for 12 weeks until he went professional, which is a long

:10:57. > :11:01.time to hold onto the number one Amateur Place. So we knew then that

:11:02. > :11:04.he had something special. It is fantastic, and he is not a nobody,

:11:05. > :11:09.he has moved into the world's top ten, he has won some big

:11:10. > :11:16.tournaments, he led the Open for a bit last year, but you just must be

:11:17. > :11:22.so proud that he is a major winner. It is unbelievable, isn't it? It is

:11:23. > :11:29.unbelievable. Where do you put that? It will take us weeks to file this

:11:30. > :11:40.away properly. Can I speak to Elisabet? You can, no problem.

:11:41. > :11:44.Hello. Good morning to you. What a wicked has been, new grandparents to

:11:45. > :11:50.Zachary who came early, so Danny could actually go to Augusta. It was

:11:51. > :11:56.wonderful, it really was. They couldn't have planned it any better.

:11:57. > :12:00.Grandchild number five, so he has come into a big family already, so

:12:01. > :12:06.it is fantastic. And you have a few sons as well. Where you aware of

:12:07. > :12:10.what your son Peter was up to? It caused quite a storm on Twitter, let

:12:11. > :12:17.me read a few things out. He was getting evolved from afar, he is in

:12:18. > :12:21.Birmingham, a teacher? He says, if the boy does what he should, I will

:12:22. > :12:28.be able to say I have shared a bath with a Masters winner. Green makes

:12:29. > :12:34.you look fat, refused the jacket! I love that one! And finally,

:12:35. > :12:38.speechless, you have a bit of a story about this one. I once pledged

:12:39. > :12:44.that kid in the head for hurting my pet rat, and now look. They had a

:12:45. > :12:48.pet rat, and Peter was really funny, his was so tame it used to sit on

:12:49. > :12:54.his shoulder when he would take the dogs for a walk, he was very fond of

:12:55. > :13:01.his rat. They were for boys growing up, but they also kept his feet

:13:02. > :13:05.firmly planted on the ground. You were watching in Anglesey, you got

:13:06. > :13:17.the telly set up straightaway, watching on BBC Two, I hope! Were

:13:18. > :13:21.you hiding behind the sofa? My husband is the one going in and out,

:13:22. > :13:24.he can't bear to watch it, but I can't bear to leave. You want to be

:13:25. > :13:29.there through the bad and the good, it was just fantastic. Are you

:13:30. > :13:38.planning an enormous party for him when he gets back? We will do. Today

:13:39. > :13:45.is Nicole's birthday, his wife, and he won't be back until tomorrow

:13:46. > :13:49.morning, so we will all be there. I think he is just looking forward, he

:13:50. > :13:53.is now off for four weeks, he always planned to do that, so he could just

:13:54. > :13:57.be a daddy, and they are looking forward to that, that will be really

:13:58. > :14:02.nice for them. Have a wonderful, wonderful time, and wish him well

:14:03. > :14:06.from all of us as well. And don't miss his next A major! You were

:14:07. > :14:12.moving to a new life on Anglesey, but thank you very much. Can I make

:14:13. > :14:16.one small point, you always caught in Yorkshire in which he truly is,

:14:17. > :14:22.but this boy is half Swedish, you know. He is flying the flag for

:14:23. > :14:31.Sweden as well! Elisabet and Steve, many thanks indeed. You are welcome.

:14:32. > :14:35.Goodbye. There you go, very proud, Danny Willett's parents, he is the

:14:36. > :14:37.Masters champion. They are so proud, as we all are. It

:14:38. > :14:40.is 14 minutes past ten. She was known to social services

:14:41. > :14:45.from birth and had been in care for a brief period before

:14:46. > :14:47.returning to her mother. She was killed at the age of 21

:14:48. > :14:50.months - stamped on by A postmortem found other injuries

:14:51. > :14:53.including extensive Police officers compared her

:14:54. > :14:57.injuries to like that of someone Today her mother will be sentenced

:14:58. > :15:09.after being convicted of her murder, and her step-father will be

:15:10. > :15:14.sentenced for his part in her death. The case has already been

:15:15. > :15:17.compared to that of Baby P, with social services being accused

:15:18. > :15:21.of missing crucial warning signs. Our correspondent Phil Mackie

:15:22. > :15:23.is at Birmingham Crown Court where sentencing is

:15:24. > :15:30.expected to take place. BP

:15:31. > :15:34.In the next few minutes the defendants will return to the dock

:15:35. > :15:38.at Birmingham Crown Court to hear what sentence they will get. Having

:15:39. > :15:44.been convicted of various offences on Friday. Catherine Smith, AJ's

:15:45. > :15:57.mother was found guilty of murder. She will face a life sentence. What

:15:58. > :16:03.the judge Mrs Justice Andrews will have to decide is how long she will

:16:04. > :16:10.spend in custody before eligible for parole. Her partner was found guilty

:16:11. > :16:14.of causing the death of a child as well as child cruelty, the first

:16:15. > :16:18.offence carries a maximum sentence of 14 years and the second carries a

:16:19. > :16:23.maximum sentence of ten years. Lots of questions have been raised about

:16:24. > :16:27.the case because as we know, there was plenty of contact between the

:16:28. > :16:31.family and the authorities. Especially in the months before

:16:32. > :16:35.Ayeeshia Jane died. Let's briefly remind you of some of the injuries

:16:36. > :16:39.that she suffered. Multiple wounds around her body. In fact the expert

:16:40. > :16:42.witness who is came to give evidence at the trial said it was like

:16:43. > :16:46.somebody who had been the victim of a fall from a great height or a car

:16:47. > :16:52.crash. They never know what caused her death, but there was a tear to

:16:53. > :16:58.her heart that suggested she had perhaps been stamped upon. Now

:16:59. > :17:02.during the trial Matthew Rigby and Catherine Smith blamed each other so

:17:03. > :17:06.we don't know what happened. We do know social services and various

:17:07. > :17:12.hospitals and doctors, various authorities had been aware of

:17:13. > :17:17.potential issues in AJ's life up until her death in May 2014. And

:17:18. > :17:22.that means there will be a Serious Case Review. That's been carried out

:17:23. > :17:26.by Derbyshire County Council who said because of new evidence that

:17:27. > :17:30.came out during the trial, they can't publish it, but we have seen

:17:31. > :17:36.many of these case reviews in the past relating to child deaths and we

:17:37. > :17:41.know many of those phrases that we hear depressingly often will

:17:42. > :17:44.re-emerge when it is published, missed opportunities, failure to

:17:45. > :17:48.communicate between different agencies, the lack of sharing

:17:49. > :17:52.information and of course, the lack of professional curiosity. All of

:17:53. > :18:00.those things will appear in the Serious Case Review. There will be

:18:01. > :18:05.sentencing from the prosecution about any previous offences Matthew

:18:06. > :18:08.Rigby and Catherine Smith may have committed and that will bear

:18:09. > :18:12.relevance as to how long they will have to serve inside prison. It will

:18:13. > :18:16.be a lengthy custodial sentence for both and we should know what the

:18:17. > :18:19.sentences are in the next hour or so.

:18:20. > :18:21.A serious case review has been launched by the Derbyshire

:18:22. > :18:23.Safeguarding Children Board to look at health and social services'

:18:24. > :18:26.involvement in the lead-up to Ayesshia's death in May

:18:27. > :18:29.Andrew Griffiths is the Conservative local MP

:18:30. > :18:31.for Burton who is calling for an independent enquiry

:18:32. > :18:43.into Ayeeshia's death, like Baby P and Victoria Climbie.

:18:44. > :18:45.Joanna Nicholas is a social worker with over 20 years experience

:18:46. > :18:47.and also a child protection consultant and works

:18:48. > :18:51.And Claude Knights is the CEO of Kidscape who says this shows

:18:52. > :18:53.again we haven't learnt enough lessons from Baby P.

:18:54. > :18:55.You're the local MP, what's been your reaction

:18:56. > :19:12.There is a sense of shock and revulsion of the brutality of which

:19:13. > :19:15.Ayeeshia died, but there is a growing sense of anger that so many

:19:16. > :19:21.opportunities to intervene and to save the life of this little child

:19:22. > :19:25.were missed. Hearing the evidence given in court, there were so many

:19:26. > :19:29.signals that should have set the alarm bells ringing and the lights

:19:30. > :19:32.flashing and yet social services didn't intervene. They knew about

:19:33. > :19:38.this child from the day she was born and in fact at one stage she had

:19:39. > :19:42.been taken into care and given to a foster parent where she flourished

:19:43. > :19:46.and yet the catastrophic decision to hand her back to her mother which

:19:47. > :19:50.led to her death was made by social services and I think people locally

:19:51. > :19:53.want answers they don't want to cover up, they want to know what

:19:54. > :20:01.happened that led to the terrible death.

:20:02. > :20:05.Let's bring in Joanna, not involved in this case, but involved in

:20:06. > :20:10.difficult situations involving kids who are in a vulnerable situation.

:20:11. > :20:16.How do you see it? What are the complexities dealing with a case

:20:17. > :20:20.like this? The first thing to say is that a Serious Case Review looks at

:20:21. > :20:24.all the agencies, not just health and children's social care. I'm

:20:25. > :20:27.really surprised to hear an MP talking about pre-empting what will

:20:28. > :20:31.come out of this Serious Case Review. The process that's followed,

:20:32. > :20:35.it is led by an independent person. It is a Government process. It is a

:20:36. > :20:39.statutory requirement that we undertake Serious Case Reviews so to

:20:40. > :20:42.hear an MP talking about mistakes that had been made prior to the

:20:43. > :20:48.publication of the Serious Case Review is surprising. The other

:20:49. > :20:52.thing that I would say is it is so easy to be wise with hindsight, we

:20:53. > :20:58.can look back and see the world as linear. If things, if mistakes are

:20:59. > :21:01.made, which almost always they have been, yes, we need to learn from

:21:02. > :21:05.them. Yes, we need to accept that and take it on the chin, but we

:21:06. > :21:08.should not be pre-empting what's going to come out of the Serious

:21:09. > :21:12.Case Review. Just respond to that. Perhaps I can come back on that. I'm

:21:13. > :21:16.talking about the evidence that was given to court. Social services knew

:21:17. > :21:20.this child was in danger. They knew that three of her partners were

:21:21. > :21:25.violent. There was actually an exclusion order on one of her

:21:26. > :21:30.partners that was ignored. They knew about the smell of cannabis and the

:21:31. > :21:35.mum being spaced-out when they visited. They went and they saw on

:21:36. > :21:40.three separate occasion doors were kicked in and mirrors smashed. They

:21:41. > :21:44.saw the bruises on this little girl. They saw the fingerprints on her

:21:45. > :21:49.thighs. They knew that she had gone to A with a plead on the brain.

:21:50. > :21:53.There were so many opportunities that social services knew about and

:21:54. > :21:58.what I think we need to know is how the judgement was made, not to

:21:59. > :22:02.intervene when social services knew on so many occasions that things

:22:03. > :22:07.were wrong and that this child was in danger. I think that's what I

:22:08. > :22:11.want to see. That's what a Serious Case Review will look at. You talk

:22:12. > :22:16.as if social services act in isolation. They absolutely don't.

:22:17. > :22:21.What we know from serious case reviews published is we need to work

:22:22. > :22:27.better with other agencies. Please stop talking about it as if it is

:22:28. > :22:30.just social services. They make decisions with all the agencies

:22:31. > :22:34.involved and the courts and if the timeline is to be believed in this

:22:35. > :22:40.court, the courts were involved as well. They are all making decisions

:22:41. > :22:44.together. These decisions are not made in isolation. Perhaps I could

:22:45. > :22:47.just come back. It is true the police were involved. They told

:22:48. > :22:51.social services of the calls where the mum was saying that the partner

:22:52. > :22:55.wanted to burn the house down, where he was threatening to cut himself

:22:56. > :22:59.and blame her. The Fire Brigade were involved. They called social

:23:00. > :23:03.services and said when they fitted a letterbox that was to prevent arson

:23:04. > :23:07.to prevent the partner from burning the house down, they said that the

:23:08. > :23:10.mother was spaced-out, and they could smell cannabis. So all of the

:23:11. > :23:15.services were involved. They were all talking. All of the information

:23:16. > :23:20.is catalogued and known to social services, but there was a judgement

:23:21. > :23:25.made not to act. One social worker visited the home more than 20 times.

:23:26. > :23:28.It is not that social services weren't involved, it is not that

:23:29. > :23:31.they weren't aware, it is that they came to the wrong decision and I

:23:32. > :23:42.want to get to the reason why those decision were made? I want to bring

:23:43. > :23:47.in Claude? One of the great concerns is that we have had so many reports.

:23:48. > :23:54.We have had Lord Lib Demming's report in 2009 which led to aids

:23:55. > :23:57.maizingly useful and effective recommendations but actually, we we

:23:58. > :24:02.are in a situation where year upon year we have more and more children

:24:03. > :24:05.being, you know, abused in this way and lessons don't seem to have been

:24:06. > :24:10.learned. One of the things that really chills my blood is after a

:24:11. > :24:14.horrific situation like this and an avoidable death, people come out and

:24:15. > :24:18.say, "Yes, there will be a Serious Case Review and lessons will be

:24:19. > :24:23.learned." I'd like to know when will these be learned? We know what we

:24:24. > :24:26.should be doing. Why aren't we doing it?

:24:27. > :24:30.We're out of time. Thank you to all of you.

:24:31. > :24:33.A deal that could safeguard the future of Tata's steelworks

:24:34. > :24:34.in Scunthorpe is likely to be signed today.

:24:35. > :24:37.Our correspondent Sarah Corker is there with the latest.

:24:38. > :24:47.What is the latest, Sarah? Well, if a sale is agreed today, as is

:24:48. > :24:52.expected we could get an announcement by midday. It will come

:24:53. > :24:56.as a huge relief to this town. It is difficult to under estimate just how

:24:57. > :25:01.important the steel industry is here. The steelworks just 100 meters

:25:02. > :25:06.down the road there. It employs 4,000 people, but the plant also

:25:07. > :25:12.supports another 30,000 jobs in the wider economy. The plant has been up

:25:13. > :25:17.for sale for the last two years, way before Tata said it wanted to off

:25:18. > :25:23.load the rest of its UK business and after months of negotiation between

:25:24. > :25:28.Tata Steel and investment firm, the take-over deal is expected to be

:25:29. > :25:35.finalised today. The investment firm have been putting together this ?400

:25:36. > :25:39.million rescue package. As part of that turnover deal will work as they

:25:40. > :25:45.have been asked to take a hit on pay and pensions. They have been asked

:25:46. > :25:50.to vote on a temporary cut to pay a 3% reduction for 12 months. A drop

:25:51. > :25:54.in pension contributions for a year and the end of the final salary

:25:55. > :25:59.pension scheme. They are being balloted by unions on that at the

:26:00. > :26:03.moment and that ballot process finishes on the 19th April. But the

:26:04. > :26:07.sense I have been getting from workers here is they're willing to

:26:08. > :26:11.make that sacrifice if it means securing the long-term future of

:26:12. > :26:16.this plant. One steel worker this morning told me, a 3% cut is better

:26:17. > :26:22.than having no job at all and no steelworks. That is how much is at

:26:23. > :26:25.stake here and it is under the investment firm thinks it can turn

:26:26. > :26:30.around this business in the next 18 months or so and steel workers here

:26:31. > :26:35.after months of bad news, they're hoping there will be something for

:26:36. > :26:38.them to smile about today. Thank you very much.

:26:39. > :26:41.We can speak now to Angela Smith, a Labour MP who has 900 Tata

:26:42. > :26:44.employees in her constituency and Stephen Surtees Davies who faces

:26:45. > :26:48.losing his steel worker job at Port Talbot this summer.

:26:49. > :26:54.Thank you for coming in. Angela, how are you feeling about the future

:26:55. > :26:59.prospects for those in your constituency and what are they

:27:00. > :27:05.telling you, how are they feeling? The passion that local people and

:27:06. > :27:10.the local workforce feel about this is, you have to see it to believe it

:27:11. > :27:14.and to feel it. The workforce is so proud of what it does. It makes some

:27:15. > :27:18.of the very best steel in the world. It is a very highly skilled

:27:19. > :27:22.workforce and they are determined to make sure that that plant has a

:27:23. > :27:27.future and it should have a future. It makes steel for the aerospace

:27:28. > :27:31.industry and steel for the automotive industry and we can't

:27:32. > :27:34.afford to lose it and I'm confident that it has got a future as long as

:27:35. > :27:38.the Government does the job it needs to do which is to step in and

:27:39. > :27:43.support the industry to get over this crisis. Stephen, your dad

:27:44. > :27:47.worked at the steelworks in Port Talbot and you do, your son does,

:27:48. > :27:52.you have been there since you were 16. How is everyone reacting around

:27:53. > :27:56.you? They're devastated with what's going on at this moment as we have

:27:57. > :28:00.been saying in the past now, we don't want any charity, we want an

:28:01. > :28:03.even playing field with the energy costs compared with what is

:28:04. > :28:07.happening in Europe. We are paying double and we can't compete at the

:28:08. > :28:13.moment and plus and we have been asking for that for many years. Now

:28:14. > :28:16.with the influx of the Chinese steel, that's crippling us even

:28:17. > :28:20.more. There is two points the Government need to take up on this

:28:21. > :28:24.and act straightaway. I think the energy costs is really important. It

:28:25. > :28:28.is not just about the green taxation on energy, it is the basic price of

:28:29. > :28:32.electricity that's the problem for industry and I think it is double,

:28:33. > :28:36.89 #3Ers higher than the EU average. So the Government really needs to

:28:37. > :28:43.get to grips with this. It needs to tackle the big six. How much of a

:28:44. > :28:46.factor is that? Even if that were dealt with, would that make the

:28:47. > :28:50.industry viable right now? It would help and the Chinese steel issue is

:28:51. > :28:54.a big problem at the moment so the Government needs to start to work

:28:55. > :28:58.co-op ratively with its European Union partners to ensure we have a

:28:59. > :29:01.safeguarding of steel in the ushg. This isn't about protectionism. This

:29:02. > :29:06.is about the fact that steel is being sold in the UK at below cost

:29:07. > :29:10.price. So we need to see measures to deal with that and then there is

:29:11. > :29:16.business rates. 11 times higher than in the European Union for the steel

:29:17. > :29:19.industry. That is unsustainable. All these things need to be dealt with

:29:20. > :29:23.as well as supporting the short-term to give the industry a future and we

:29:24. > :29:27.need to make the industry resilient in order to meet future economic

:29:28. > :29:31.down turns, my family were in steel. They are not in the industry after

:29:32. > :29:37.200 years, they are not in the industry anymore. I don't want to

:29:38. > :29:44.see Steve's job go. We want a future for what is a really important

:29:45. > :29:49.industry. We are highly motivated and highly skilled and we want that

:29:50. > :29:52.opportunity to prove everyone, we are sustainable and we will go

:29:53. > :30:03.forward together. Thank you very much. Thank you.

:30:04. > :30:07.Why can the celebrity who took part in a threesome be named in Scotland

:30:08. > :30:12.and the USA, one MP is threatening to identify the celebrity today. We

:30:13. > :30:16.will bring you what details we are legally allowed to. We hear from the

:30:17. > :30:20.woman who might be deported to America because her British husband

:30:21. > :30:27.less than the Home Office says he needs to earn in order for her to

:30:28. > :30:35.stay here. Now let's catch up with the news.

:30:36. > :30:38.Treasury sources say George Osborne is likely to publish details

:30:39. > :30:42.about his income and tax payments in the coming days.

:30:43. > :30:45.It comes as David Cameron prepares to face MPs for the first

:30:46. > :30:47.time since the leaking of the Panama Papers which exposed

:30:48. > :30:50.the extent to which offshore companies are used to hide money

:30:51. > :30:54.He'll announce plans to toughen up the rules on companies that don't do

:30:55. > :30:56.enough to stop staff helping clients evade tax.

:30:57. > :30:57.One senior backbencher explained the pressure

:30:58. > :31:06.The argument for doing so is that Caesar's wife must be above

:31:07. > :31:10.suspicion, and if you are managing the country's affairs, the

:31:11. > :31:13.electorate want to know you are doing it properly and independently.

:31:14. > :31:16.I think it is a pity we have lost privacy,

:31:17. > :31:20.but some extent it is politicians' fault because we lost

:31:21. > :31:24.the trust of the public over the expenses affair.

:31:25. > :31:28.The former Defence Secretary Liam Fox has called for those campaigning

:31:29. > :31:31.to leave the European Union to be allowed to include their views

:31:32. > :31:42.in the controversial EU referendum leaflet that's being mailed

:31:43. > :31:45.The document, which will set out the Government's case for staying

:31:46. > :31:48.in the EU, is costing the taxpayer ?9 million,

:31:49. > :31:50.and the first batches will be delivered to households

:31:51. > :31:53.More than 200,000 members of the public have signed a petition

:31:54. > :31:55.demanding the mailing is cancelled altogether.

:31:56. > :31:57.A deal that would safeguard the future of the Tata steelworks

:31:58. > :31:59.in Scunthorpe is expected to be signed today.

:32:00. > :32:02.It's thought the investment firm, Greybull Capital,

:32:03. > :32:04.will announce the sale, following nine months

:32:05. > :32:11.Also today, Tata is also expected to begin the formal

:32:12. > :32:14.process of selling the rest of its loss-making UK plants.

:32:15. > :32:23.If the Scunthorpe deal is approved, it will secure about 4,000 jobs.

:32:24. > :32:42.It secures the future for Scunthorpe, our communities,

:32:43. > :32:46.We are talking 30 or 40,000 jobs saved, a community that

:32:47. > :32:48.can carry on, the council still receiving their taxes to pay their

:32:49. > :32:52.Around 7,000 pupils in Edinburgh will not be

:32:53. > :32:54.able to return to school from the holidays today

:32:55. > :32:56.because of concerns that school buildings may

:32:57. > :32:59.17 schools have been closed until further notice.

:33:00. > :33:01.One of Jimmy Savile's victims tells this programme how Jimmy Savile

:33:02. > :33:05.Sam Brown reported the abuse to police after Savile's death.

:33:06. > :33:07.She is one of several victims to speak out tonight

:33:08. > :33:09.in a BBC One Panorama documentary Abused,

:33:10. > :33:14.It features people speaking out about their abuse for the first

:33:15. > :33:16.time, and the impact that coming forward has had on them

:33:17. > :33:27.Sam Brown describes how Savile abused her.

:33:28. > :33:29.The writer and convicted drug smuggler, Howard Marks,

:33:30. > :33:33.He came to prominence for his best-selling

:33:34. > :33:35.memoir of his exploits, called Mr Nice.

:33:36. > :33:38.It was published in 1996, a year after he was released

:33:39. > :33:49.He served seven years of a 25-year jail sentence for drugs offences.

:33:50. > :33:57.That's the latest news. Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.

:33:58. > :33:59.Here's some sport now with Olly Foster -

:34:00. > :34:01.and a memorable Masters for British golf.

:34:02. > :34:08.Danny Willett is the Masters champion, finishing three shots

:34:09. > :34:14.clear of his compatriot Lee Westwood, the first British player

:34:15. > :34:16.to win at Augusta in 20 years. Reigning champion Jordan Spieth

:34:17. > :34:20.threw away a five shot lead with nine holes to play. Leicester City

:34:21. > :34:24.are still seven points clear of trouble the Premier League after

:34:25. > :34:28.they beat Sunderland 2-0, Jamie Vardy scored both their goals. There

:34:29. > :34:31.are now guaranteed Champions League football next season because fifth

:34:32. > :34:38.placed Manchester United lost a Tottenham 3-0 at White Hart Lane.

:34:39. > :34:43.With five games to play, Spurs are still Lester's nearest challengers.

:34:44. > :34:46.It has been a good week Rangers after promotion to the Scottish

:34:47. > :34:49.Premiership and winning the challenge cup against Peterhead 4-0.

:34:50. > :34:53.They face Celtic in the Scottish semifinals next weekend. That is

:34:54. > :34:56.your sport for this morning, more coming up for you in just a moment

:34:57. > :35:02.with the latest instalment from the Leicester video diaries. That is

:35:03. > :35:06.well worth looking out for, coming up shortly. An American mother says

:35:07. > :35:16.she is facing deportation because her husband of nine years earns less

:35:17. > :35:20.than ?18,000. The couple moved back to the UK, but the family risk being

:35:21. > :35:25.split up after the Home Office rejected her Visa application.

:35:26. > :35:29.British citizens have to earn a certain amount before they qualify

:35:30. > :35:32.to bring in a non-EU partner. The Government says the minimum income

:35:33. > :35:35.rule is to prevent unqualified spouses coming to the UK and

:35:36. > :35:42.becoming dependent on the state. We can speak to Dominic, Katy and

:35:43. > :35:48.Marilyn from their home in Eastbourne. Tell us what the

:35:49. > :35:52.situation is. Katy, as things stand, you're not allowed to stay? You

:35:53. > :35:57.potentially will not be allowed to stay here with your daughter and

:35:58. > :36:04.husband. We have been told by the Home Office in a letter that my Visa

:36:05. > :36:11.was refused and that I would have to leave the UK in 14 days, that is

:36:12. > :36:14.what the letter says, and I can leave without my daughter and they

:36:15. > :36:18.have no concerns about her safety welfare because she would be here

:36:19. > :36:21.with her father. And Dominic, this is because you don't earn enough on

:36:22. > :36:29.the Home Office rules introduced in 2012 to be able to have your wife

:36:30. > :36:34.here stay under immigration rules? Actually I think I do earn enough,

:36:35. > :36:38.because I have my own business, I am self-employed, and I think at the

:36:39. > :36:42.moment I am earning around that money required, but because it takes

:36:43. > :36:47.time for a self-employed person to submit their taxes and prove their

:36:48. > :36:54.income, I can't prove it to them, so I am unable to show them, but I can

:36:55. > :36:57.reach that figure. The law is very rigid, it doesn't take into account

:36:58. > :37:03.family income, it doesn't take into account my income either. You are

:37:04. > :37:07.not allowed to have any income at the moment, because you are not able

:37:08. > :37:10.to work? I am not able to work now, but it doesn't take into account my

:37:11. > :37:16.previous income from before, last year and the before. When you apply

:37:17. > :37:22.for it, it doesn't take into account, it only takes into account

:37:23. > :37:25.the British person's income. So as things stand, you have had a letter

:37:26. > :37:29.from the Home Office saying you are not allowed to work or claim

:37:30. > :37:33.benefits, if you use health services, you would be invoiced for

:37:34. > :37:37.that. You were given a date on which you had to leave the country, but it

:37:38. > :37:41.is all up for appeal. When you received that letter and it said

:37:42. > :37:44.that there was effectively no issue in you leaving the country and

:37:45. > :37:52.leaving your daughter behind, how did you feel about that? Obviously I

:37:53. > :37:55.felt horrible about it, being told that you don't matter, basically,

:37:56. > :37:59.and that the welfare of your daughter doesn't matter, and that

:38:00. > :38:04.she doesn't need her mother. It is just horrible, to think that a

:38:05. > :38:10.Government would do that, would separate a mother from her child.

:38:11. > :38:13.The Home Office makes a point that you could go and live in the United

:38:14. > :38:18.States as a family, you have lived there before. Is that something that

:38:19. > :38:22.you will consider? We have been trying to come back to the UK. We

:38:23. > :38:26.lived here before, after we were married, for three years, and I

:38:27. > :38:31.worked and paid taxes the entire time, and we left to go back to the

:38:32. > :38:35.US for a temporary time period, and we always wanted to come back, but

:38:36. > :38:38.in 2012, the law came in, and we realised they were making it very

:38:39. > :38:44.difficult for us and we probably wouldn't be able to come back under

:38:45. > :38:51.this new rule, and so since then we have been trying to make our way

:38:52. > :38:56.back, because we have a large family network here. And then after we had

:38:57. > :39:00.Madeleine, we wanted to come back even more, because we wanted her to

:39:01. > :39:05.be around the large spread family we have here, grandparents, aunts and

:39:06. > :39:10.uncles, all of her cousins, and we felt it was the best place for her.

:39:11. > :39:16.And why should we have to go to the United States to live? I am a

:39:17. > :39:21.British citizen, Madeleine is a British citizen, I have my whole

:39:22. > :39:30.family here, I have a business. Katy had a five-year spousal Visa, and in

:39:31. > :39:37.2006, she earned $80,000 in her last job, and in the States she is highly

:39:38. > :39:41.skilled. I have a degree. So why should we have to go and live

:39:42. > :39:46.somewhere else where there is no proper family and no proper life for

:39:47. > :39:49.us when we have everything here? Dominic and Katy, thank you very

:39:50. > :39:54.much for joining us. I Home Office spokesman said all applications are

:39:55. > :39:58.considered on their individual merits, and in accordance with the

:39:59. > :40:03.immigration rules. This case is ongoing, said it would be

:40:04. > :40:06.inappropriate to comment further. Leicester City are one step closer

:40:07. > :40:11.to completing one of the most remarkable feat in British football

:40:12. > :40:14.history by beating Sunderland 2-0 yesterday at the Stadium of Light.

:40:15. > :40:17.The team are now seven points clear of the top of the Premier League

:40:18. > :40:21.with just three wins needed. To put that into context, this time last

:40:22. > :40:26.year, they were battling relegation, and at the start of the season, the

:40:27. > :40:29.odds on the league were 5000 to one. That is the same odds you'd get from

:40:30. > :40:34.proving that Elvis Presley was alive. Over the last month, two

:40:35. > :40:40.Leicester fans have been keeping diaries for us, Gary Johnson whose

:40:41. > :40:45.middle name is Leicester and who was named after Gary Lineker. This video

:40:46. > :41:15.contains flashing images. It is Sunday and it's

:41:16. > :41:17.a beautiful morning. It is a long trip up

:41:18. > :41:23.the M1 and A1 to see It is a ridiculous time of morning

:41:24. > :41:29.to be up on a Sunday, but we are here to support

:41:30. > :41:33.the boys in blue. Hopefully we can get

:41:34. > :41:35.three points to make up Big Ann and Matt have

:41:36. > :41:42.turned up for the match. What do you think

:41:43. > :41:45.this morning, folks? I think it is too early and too cold

:41:46. > :41:49.but we are going to win. I think it will be

:41:50. > :41:56.a tough one today. It is 7:20, and here we are,

:41:57. > :42:02.the mad people, getting Because we are going to win

:42:03. > :42:10.the league aren't we? Are we going to win

:42:11. > :42:16.the league? We are leaving the King Power

:42:17. > :42:38.Stadium to make our way We are now 15 minutes away

:42:39. > :42:54.from the Stadium of Light and we are stopping off

:42:55. > :42:58.for a quick cup of tea. Big Ann has a cup of tea and Matt

:42:59. > :43:04.is engrossed in his phone. And we have picked Frankie up

:43:05. > :43:07.on the way and we have been talking to Sunderland supporters

:43:08. > :43:09.who hope we win the league Very nice hospitality up here,

:43:10. > :43:22.very nice cup of tea, And I'm not nervous yet,

:43:23. > :43:34.which is most unusual. Here we are in the Sunderland fan

:43:35. > :43:45.zone surrounded by very friendly Let's hope that the match

:43:46. > :43:59.is as good-natured as this is. Here we are, just getting off

:44:00. > :44:08.the coach in Sunderland. Making our way to the stadium

:44:09. > :44:11.which is just down there. Hopefully we will see

:44:12. > :44:16.the boys in blue win today. It means an awful lot to Leicester

:44:17. > :44:19.to win, but what does I hope Leicester win

:44:20. > :44:23.the whole thing. If you beat us today and we stay

:44:24. > :44:26.up, I will be happy. I will be happy if we win today,

:44:27. > :44:30.but I want you to win We have just come out

:44:31. > :44:58.from another fantastic Two goals at this time,

:44:59. > :45:07.the pressure on at all times, it is absolutely unbelievable

:45:08. > :45:15.and we are going to win the league. # We're going to win the league,

:45:16. > :45:24.we're going to win the league. # I know you won't believe us,

:45:25. > :45:27.I know you were believe us. And you watch all of their diaries

:45:28. > :45:45.on our programme page: We'll hear more from Gary

:45:46. > :45:53.and Sandra next Monday. And if you can put a price on that

:45:54. > :45:58.success, one fan put a fiver before the season began at odds of 5000 to

:45:59. > :46:01.one on them winning, standing to win ?25,000 if they make it.

:46:02. > :46:04.Why can a married celebrity who has taken out an injunction preventing

:46:05. > :46:06.details of a threesome from being published be named

:46:07. > :46:09.in Scotland and America but not in the rest of the UK?

:46:10. > :46:12.Our correspondent Andy Moore can tell us a little bit more,

:46:13. > :46:14.but there's an awful lot we can't tell you.

:46:15. > :46:16.First of all, tell us what you can

:46:17. > :46:26.Well, this was in the court of apile and it overturned a previous ruling

:46:27. > :46:30.in the High Court which ruled in favour of the paper. I'm going to

:46:31. > :46:35.refer to my notes and be careful because I don't want to break the

:46:36. > :46:39.terms of injunction. It concerns a man well-known in the entertainment

:46:40. > :46:42.business who is married somebody well-known in the entertainment

:46:43. > :46:48.business and they have young children. The Sun on Sunday wanted

:46:49. > :46:52.to publish a story about an affair in 2009. Beyond that, I can't tell

:46:53. > :46:56.you much. But viewers in Scotland will be wondering why because it was

:46:57. > :46:59.over the front page of one of their papers yesterday. We can't show you

:47:00. > :47:14.that, but we can show you what The Sun makes of it in England. Their

:47:15. > :47:17.front page, "Och aye they know" It is over the internet of course as

:47:18. > :47:22.well. Now it has been reported that one MP, we're not sure, maybe

:47:23. > :47:26.standing up in the House of Commons and breaking the injunction using

:47:27. > :47:31.Parliamentary privilege basically where an MP can say anything thet

:47:32. > :47:37.want without being bound by the legal rules that you and I are bound

:47:38. > :47:42.by. What issues did the court have to weigh up? The celebrity's right

:47:43. > :47:46.to private life versus the paper's right to freedom of expression. The

:47:47. > :47:51.celebrity said that this was tittle-tattle, it was his private

:47:52. > :47:55.life. There was no public in it and he said he wanted to protect his

:47:56. > :48:02.children. The paper said that the couple projected an image of a cosy

:48:03. > :48:06.family life and this evidence of an exta martial affair was at odds with

:48:07. > :48:12.that. The judge said well, they can have an open marriage and still have

:48:13. > :48:15.commitment to each other and you know a perfect family life caring

:48:16. > :48:18.for their children. On balance the judge said that he was ruling in

:48:19. > :48:22.favour of the celebrity, and against the paper. It is not the first time

:48:23. > :48:25.there has been a fight between the courts and the media over

:48:26. > :48:29.injunctions. There have been high-profile cases in the past,

:48:30. > :48:35.haven't there? You have to cast your mind back five years to the era of

:48:36. > :48:39.super-injunctions when we couldn't even tell you there was an

:48:40. > :48:43.injunction. Ryan Giggs tried to cover up a story about an affair. He

:48:44. > :48:49.was named in the Scottish press and then he was named in Parliament by

:48:50. > :48:54.the MP John Hemming and that came out. Top Gear presenter tried to

:48:55. > :48:59.cover up an interview with his wife. He gave up after a while because he

:49:00. > :49:03.said it was pointless. The celebrities who are trying to cover

:49:04. > :49:08.up something in their private life may achieve the opposite effect. It

:49:09. > :49:13.is called the Streisand affect after Barbra Streisand. She tried to stop

:49:14. > :49:19.publication of a photograph of her clifftop home in Malibu. It was on

:49:20. > :49:22.some obscure scientific website talking about coastal erosion and

:49:23. > :49:27.six people viewed the imagement she went to court and before long

:49:28. > :49:31.500,000 people had seen that image! I think celebrities perhaps in this

:49:32. > :49:35.case have to be aware that in trying to protect their private life so

:49:36. > :49:38.fiercely in the courts they might actually be telling everybody what

:49:39. > :49:39.is going on and more people will get to know about it. Thank you very

:49:40. > :50:00.much. A survey of British Muslims suggests

:50:01. > :50:03.that more than half believe homosexuality should

:50:04. > :50:04.be illegal in the UK. The poll will feature

:50:05. > :50:06.in a documentary called What British Muslims Really Think,

:50:07. > :50:09.which seeks to investigate why some Trevor Phillips says

:50:10. > :50:12.the findings pose profound questions for society -

:50:13. > :50:14.and for future relations between Britain's Muslim

:50:15. > :50:22.and non-Muslim communities. This survey is really an attempt to

:50:23. > :50:27.find out what most Muslim people think on a range of issues. What it

:50:28. > :50:32.tells us is that for the most part they are just like everybody else.

:50:33. > :50:36.They love Britain. Probably slightly more than others. They love the

:50:37. > :50:42.opportunity to worship as they please. They trust the authorities

:50:43. > :50:45.and so on, but on a number of very specific issues, the centre of

:50:46. > :50:51.gravity of Muslim opinion is very different from everyone else and

:50:52. > :50:55.those issues are family and sex. Attitudes towards Jewish people and

:50:56. > :51:00.then a bundle of issues which you might call the law and violence and

:51:01. > :51:04.terrorism and on freedom of expression. Those issues, Muslim

:51:05. > :51:11.opinion is very different and what we are trying to say is that this is

:51:12. > :51:14.now 6%, 7% of our citizens, soon it will be 10% and the rest of us have

:51:15. > :51:21.to understand what they really think. What do you take then from

:51:22. > :51:25.something like only 34% of people surveyed would tell the police if

:51:26. > :51:29.they thought someone was involved with supporters of terrorism in

:51:30. > :51:35.Syria? Well, it is pretty alarming, isn't it? We know if we are going to

:51:36. > :51:42.tackle that kind of activity, it is going to be because somebody who

:51:43. > :51:46.knows, informs the authorities and the person involved is apprehended,

:51:47. > :51:52.talked to about what they are trying to do and so on. I think what we

:51:53. > :51:54.understand by this most British Muslims, who do not support violence

:51:55. > :52:13.by the way, a very small proportion. They will go to an

:52:14. > :52:19.imam and persuade the person out of this kind of activity, but the other

:52:20. > :52:23.reason which is something they have to worry more about, they feel they

:52:24. > :52:28.themselves if they come forward to the police or to the authorities may

:52:29. > :52:32.become suspect, suspect and they will be treated as such I think that

:52:33. > :52:38.is an issue we could do something about and we need to worry about.

:52:39. > :52:40.Trevor Phillips says we rarely here from the average British Muslim.

:52:41. > :52:42.Let's do that just now. I can now speak to Surfaraz Mustafa

:52:43. > :52:45.from South London who is currently sitting his A levels,

:52:46. > :52:47.Jahangir Mohammed who lives in Manchester and runs his own

:52:48. > :52:50.consultancy firm and Madiha Hussain from West London who owns an organic

:52:51. > :52:59.whole foods business. Thank you very much for joining us.

:53:00. > :53:05.What do you think about the claim that there is a nation within a

:53:06. > :53:08.nation? Firstly, I believe that religion

:53:09. > :53:11.should be used as a means of spreading love and compassion in

:53:12. > :53:17.society rather than to spread hatred. I am happy to hear 8 # % of

:53:18. > :53:20.Muslims feel they are at home in this nation. I don't think there is

:53:21. > :53:26.really a nation within a nation. I feel that if we continue to bring up

:53:27. > :53:30.surveys, targeting Muslims then we could end up seeing what we really

:53:31. > :53:34.went to see and we will start making up our own statements and

:53:35. > :53:39.integration is just a part of Islam, it is an extension of my of my body.

:53:40. > :53:43.I feel that being Muslim and being British there is no incompatibility

:53:44. > :53:48.whatsoever. What do you think about the statistics that this survey has

:53:49. > :53:57.thrown up like 47% not believing it is acceptable for a schoolteacher to

:53:58. > :54:02.be homosexual? 52% not believing homosexuality should be legal in

:54:03. > :54:07.Britain? And also the statistic that only 34% of people surveyed would

:54:08. > :54:11.tell police they someone they knew were involved with supporters of

:54:12. > :54:15.terrorism in Syria? Islam is a religion of compassion and love.

:54:16. > :54:20.There should be no hatred towards any other citizen whatever they

:54:21. > :54:23.choose to believe. That's just completely against Islam and what

:54:24. > :54:27.Islam truly stands for. Secondly, in regards to telling the police, I

:54:28. > :54:31.think, it is the responsibility of the Government and the authorities

:54:32. > :54:35.to ensure that its citizens are safe and secondly, that youth are

:54:36. > :54:40.choosing not to go and join Isis. However, on the other hand, we have

:54:41. > :54:45.seen in the past that now and again, certain incidents are blown out of

:54:46. > :54:50.proportion and we find that the backlash is quite heavy and it's not

:54:51. > :54:55.proportionate at all and it is not right. So I think that one can

:54:56. > :55:01.understand as to why some Muslims may feel it is better to try and

:55:02. > :55:11.handle the situation first, however I do believe it is the authority's

:55:12. > :55:14.job and the police and they should be aware of any people who have

:55:15. > :55:22.these ideas as we are not what we stand for. What do you think about

:55:23. > :55:29.the survey? Obviously some of the results, you don't need a survey to

:55:30. > :55:34.tell you that a religiously inclined community whether Muslim, Jewish,

:55:35. > :55:37.Hindu or Sikh has particularly conservative attitudes towards sex

:55:38. > :55:42.and marriage and some other things. I think that what concerns me is the

:55:43. > :55:48.spin and the commentary around the survey which has been presented in a

:55:49. > :55:53.way which suits the current political narrative and it is

:55:54. > :55:59.dangerous and Britain is not, Muslims are not a nation within a

:56:00. > :56:03.nation. Britain itself is, you know, a nation of communities. We have

:56:04. > :56:08.different communities. If you surveyed for example the Catholic

:56:09. > :56:16.community, you would find, there would be some strong views on sex,

:56:17. > :56:20.adultery, contraception, abortion, equally within the Jewish community

:56:21. > :56:24.you would find similar views to the Muslim community and the Christian

:56:25. > :56:30.community as a whole on homosexuality. This is dangerous.

:56:31. > :56:35.But also, some of these attitudes that are reflected and some of the

:56:36. > :56:40.problems that have been talked about in talk of parallel lives and

:56:41. > :56:46.segregation, there is a whole history behind racism and the

:56:47. > :56:50.evolution of communities, minority communities in this country. Now, I

:56:51. > :56:56.would expect a former head of the equalities commission to have put

:56:57. > :57:02.quite a bit of context into for example the issues around housing

:57:03. > :57:12.and... I have to interrupt you. We're short on time. What's your

:57:13. > :57:17.view? Well, I'm a born British Muslim living in this country and I

:57:18. > :57:23.feel like some of these polls that are thrown up, Muslims, I agree they

:57:24. > :57:28.are dangerous topics to be thrown out at Muslims. Being a British

:57:29. > :57:33.Muslim you don't really feel like you know there is any judgement on,

:57:34. > :57:36.you know, people, you know, practising their, you know, sexual

:57:37. > :57:42.preference or any of those things and I just, I just feel that you

:57:43. > :57:48.know, these things, I just feel that we should be looking at what Muslims

:57:49. > :57:52.are about. We are about peace and we are about trying to make this world

:57:53. > :57:57.a better place, but that's not really targeted ever like at the

:57:58. > :58:01.looking at that subject. So I just feel that some of these polls

:58:02. > :58:04.misconstrued a lot of what our beliefs are and it is a shame

:58:05. > :58:09.because you get these small amount of people that are very uneducated

:58:10. > :58:13.and they start, you know, throwing out all these ideologies and then

:58:14. > :58:16.they just get really hyped up by the media. We're out of time. Thank you

:58:17. > :58:31.so much. Thank you for your company this

:58:32. > :58:32.morning. Victoria is back tomorrow. I will