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:00:12. > :00:18.Welcome to our programme. Today, our top story, Jeremy Corbyn has spent a

:00:19. > :00:22.lot of his career criticising the European Union but this morning he

:00:23. > :00:27.is giving a speech setting out why, despite that, he thinks the UK

:00:28. > :00:33.should vote to stay in the EU in June's referendum. We will bring in

:00:34. > :00:37.his speech live after 10am. Should 15-year-olds be told that the laying

:00:38. > :00:41.becoming a parent could lead to problems having children? We will

:00:42. > :00:44.talk to a fertility expert. And a woman who pushed to outlaw revenge

:00:45. > :00:52.pornography once legislation to clamp down on online abuse and we

:00:53. > :00:59.will talk to live. -- we will talk to her live.

:01:00. > :01:05.Welcome to the programme. We are also going to be talking about

:01:06. > :01:09.bosses' page as some BP shareholders are crossed that the company's boss

:01:10. > :01:15.is in line for a 20% pay rise is taking his salary to just over ?13

:01:16. > :01:21.million. We will talk about that in the next half hour.

:01:22. > :01:28.If you have got a story, and you think we should be covering it, let

:01:29. > :01:34.us know. Send it to us. Some of our best stories come from you. Our top

:01:35. > :01:40.story, Jeremy Corbyn is to make his first significant intervention in

:01:41. > :01:44.the European referendum campaign. He will urge his supporters to back the

:01:45. > :01:50.European Union, warts and all, but he will argue that the EU needs to

:01:51. > :01:52.change. Then write reports. -- Ben Wright reports.

:01:53. > :01:54.A different time, a rather different view.

:01:55. > :01:57.When Britain voted to join what was then the European Economic Community

:01:58. > :02:06.Then, Labour was split on the issue, and, through the 1980s and beyond,

:02:07. > :02:08.Jeremy Corbyn remained sceptical, critical of the EU.

:02:09. > :02:10.In 2008, he voted against his party's instructions

:02:11. > :02:14.And as he stood for the leadership of his party this year,

:02:15. > :02:17.he said he had mixed feelings about the EU and didn't rule out

:02:18. > :02:27.But the vast majority of Labour MPs are pro-EU

:02:28. > :02:30.They worry Jeremy Corbyn is not doing enough

:02:31. > :02:32.to rally voters behind their

:02:33. > :02:43.case, voters they think will be crucial for the result.

:02:44. > :02:45.Mr Corbyn criticised David Cameron's renegotiated deal, saying

:02:46. > :02:48.it was a great opportunity missed, and in March he explained

:02:49. > :02:52.We are campaigning on the issues on social justice across Europe,

:02:53. > :02:54.campaigning to defend the Social Chapter,

:02:55. > :02:56.to defend the Working Time Directive, and

:02:57. > :03:01.like the Transfer of Undertakings, which protects workers

:03:02. > :03:04.We are campaigning for a social Europe.

:03:05. > :03:06.Today, Jeremy Corbyn will make a major speech he hopes

:03:07. > :03:08.will quieten his critics and clarify his position.

:03:09. > :03:10.He will say Labour is overwhelmingly in favour of staying

:03:11. > :03:13.in the EU, but he will also list its shortcomings.

:03:14. > :03:15.It's not the speech David Cameron would make.

:03:16. > :03:22.But Jeremy Corbyn has long had a very different view about the EU.

:03:23. > :03:28.Ben Wright, BBC News, Westminster.

:03:29. > :03:29.Norman Smith is in London, where Jeremy Corbyn

:03:30. > :03:42.Norman, is Jeremy Corbyn really going to be able to convince people?

:03:43. > :03:46.Well, on that may hinge the outcome of this referendum because many

:03:47. > :03:51.people think that the key moment in this campaign will be whether Mr

:03:52. > :03:56.Corbyn manages to galvanise Labour support to stay in the EU because

:03:57. > :03:59.most people calculate that most Tory supporters will vote for Brexit,

:04:00. > :04:08.therefore it is critical to motivate the labour vote. The difficulty is,

:04:09. > :04:12.plenty of Jeremy Corbyn's speeches, he has criticised the EU, and I

:04:13. > :04:16.think this is the first time I will have seen him make the case for the

:04:17. > :04:20.EU. We know he has had long-standing doubts about the EU, going back to

:04:21. > :04:23.its formation, but even quite recently during his leadership

:04:24. > :04:29.campaign he was saying he had not ruled out campaigning to withdraw

:04:30. > :04:36.from the EU. The Durham miners gal at the other month, he was critical

:04:37. > :04:40.of the trade deal trying to -- that was being negotiated. He has

:04:41. > :04:44.attacked the EU, saying they are treating Greece like a debt colony.

:04:45. > :04:47.He says there is a lot riding on this and the challenge is to

:04:48. > :04:52.convince people he is not speaking through gritted teeth, proving that

:04:53. > :04:55.he has actually changed his mind on Europe. People say that he really

:04:56. > :05:00.has a because he believes that Europe has changed and it is less of

:05:01. > :05:03.a market organisation, more focused on protecting pay and public

:05:04. > :05:08.services and the environment. But I have to say, he has an awful lot of

:05:09. > :05:13.convincing to do. Thank you, Norman. And we will hear some of Mr Corbyn's

:05:14. > :05:15.speech before ten o'clock. Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with the rest

:05:16. > :05:17.of this morning's news. Several large investors

:05:18. > :05:19.in the oil giant, BP, are planning to vote

:05:20. > :05:23.against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to

:05:24. > :05:32.its Chief Executive. They're angry that his pay package

:05:33. > :05:34.will rise to almost ?14 million at a time when BP's profits

:05:35. > :05:37.are falling and jobs are being lost. The company has defended

:05:38. > :05:39.the increase, saying its performance Two migrants - who are

:05:40. > :05:43.believed to be from Iran - have been rescued from an inflatable

:05:44. > :05:46.boat off the coast of Dover. of this morning but didn't

:05:47. > :05:50.know their exact position. They were picked up by a lifeboat

:05:51. > :05:53.after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate

:05:54. > :05:55.them after spotting a light Four men suspected of involvement

:05:56. > :06:00.in the attacks in Paris and Brussels are due to appear in court

:06:01. > :06:02.in Belgium shortly. Mohammed Abrini, accused

:06:03. > :06:04.of being "the man in the hat" seen on CCTV before

:06:05. > :06:07.the Brussels airport bombing, is among the suspected plotters

:06:08. > :06:09.attending the hearing. According to French television,

:06:10. > :06:11.Abrini denies being A video appearing to show some

:06:12. > :06:19.of the schoolgirls kidnapped by the Islamist group Boko Haram has

:06:20. > :06:22.been sent to the The emergence of the footage comes

:06:23. > :06:28.as vigils are held to mark the second anniversary

:06:29. > :06:30.of the abduction of 276 girls Of those, nearly 220

:06:31. > :06:46.are still missing. Adaobi Nwaubani is a

:06:47. > :06:47.journalist who's been documenting the stories

:06:48. > :06:54.of the Chibok families and believes I think there is hope because in the

:06:55. > :06:59.past year we have seen a massive rescues girls, such as we have not

:07:00. > :07:03.seen before. People that we did not even know were kidnapped. We have

:07:04. > :07:06.seen a lot of improvement. I have in visited -- I have visited the

:07:07. > :07:10.Northeast several times and I see people returning to their lives,

:07:11. > :07:16.trying to rebuild their lives, and I have seen improvements and the

:07:17. > :07:20.return of abducted girls on a monthly basis. If the government

:07:21. > :07:21.continues like this, it is only a matter of time before the girls are

:07:22. > :07:23.eventually rescued. Two teenage girls have been arrested

:07:24. > :07:25.on suspicion of kidnapping a three-year-old girl

:07:26. > :07:27.in Newcastle city centre. Police launched a large scale search

:07:28. > :07:30.after the child went missing from the Primark store

:07:31. > :07:31.in Northumberland Street She was found just over an hour

:07:32. > :07:36.later a few miles away in Gosforth. The 13 and 14 year old teenagers

:07:37. > :07:39.are in custody on suspicion A 13 year-old girl was injured

:07:40. > :07:49.during a shooting near Bethnal Green police station in east

:07:50. > :07:51.London yesterday evening. She needed first aid treatment

:07:52. > :07:53.after shots were fired The area around the police

:07:54. > :07:56.station was sealed off No arrests have been made

:07:57. > :08:08.and police are appealing The girl is still in hospital

:08:09. > :08:12.being treated for minor injuries. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

:08:13. > :08:15.have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth They touched down in

:08:16. > :08:19.the country this morning. They'll meet the King and Queen

:08:20. > :08:21.before watching a display Yesterday the royal couple spent

:08:22. > :08:26.the day at Kaziranga National Park in India where they fed orphaned

:08:27. > :08:30.rhinos and baby elephants. A Parkrun event that has been

:08:31. > :08:34.at the centre of a row with a local council has been cancelled due

:08:35. > :08:36.to safety concerns. Organisers of the free weekly run

:08:37. > :08:40.in Little Stoke Park, near Bristol, said the numbers expected to turn

:08:41. > :08:42.out for Saturday's event There has been widespread criticism

:08:43. > :08:48.of the council's decision to charge Search dogs at Manchester Airport

:08:49. > :08:58.are being criticised for how They're being criticised for failing

:08:59. > :09:02.to detect illegal animal products But the Independent Chief Inspector

:09:03. > :09:20.of Borders and Immigration said although they're adept at sniffing

:09:21. > :09:22.out "cheese and sausages", there was a seven month period up

:09:23. > :09:25.to June last year when they failed In the age of digital downloads,

:09:26. > :09:29.there has been a huge resurgence of one of the most old fashioned

:09:30. > :09:32.ways of listening to music. Vinyl sales are rising,

:09:33. > :09:35.and this year they're up by more But a new survey for the BBC ahead

:09:36. > :09:40.of Record Store Day this weekend has revealed that almost half

:09:41. > :09:42.the people who buy vinyl In a moment we'll hear

:09:43. > :09:54.from a leading fertility expert who's warning women not

:09:55. > :10:02.to delay motherhood. What does that mean in practical

:10:03. > :10:04.terms? Did you delay becoming a parent? Does that ID ring true? Get

:10:05. > :10:16.in touch. Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE

:10:17. > :10:19.and if you text, you will be charged It was a good night

:10:20. > :10:28.for Manchester United? This is possibly the last chance for

:10:29. > :10:31.them to secure some silverware. After faltering season, they are

:10:32. > :10:37.through to the FA Cup semifinal where they will face Everton. United

:10:38. > :10:42.beat West Ham 2-1 last night and it was the hammers last game. But

:10:43. > :10:46.Marcus Rushford ruined their celebrations with that brilliant

:10:47. > :10:50.strike. Marouane Fellaini bumbled in a second as United booked their

:10:51. > :10:58.place at Wembley in the last four later this month.

:10:59. > :11:05.I said I want a title and of course I am very happy. This is very

:11:06. > :11:09.important for the English clubs. You have seen the fans shouting during

:11:10. > :11:16.the game. Fantastic support. I like that.

:11:17. > :11:22.Everton drew 0-0 at Crystal Palace. James McCarthy was sent off early in

:11:23. > :11:42.the second half. On the Europe, and was a shock last night.

:11:43. > :11:43.Champions League favourites, and defending champions,

:11:44. > :11:46.Atletico Madrid beat them two-nil, overcoming their 2-1

:11:47. > :11:50.Barca are struggling at the moment, and their poor form continued

:11:51. > :11:52.as Antoine Griezeman gave Atletico the lead.

:11:53. > :11:55.from the penalty spot, after Andres Iniesta handled

:11:56. > :11:58.This is Barca's third loss in four games.

:11:59. > :12:00.So joining Atletico in the semi-finals will be Bayern Munich.

:12:01. > :12:02.They drew 2-2 with Benfica in Portugal, going

:12:03. > :12:05.That means Bayern manager Pep Guardiola could end up

:12:06. > :12:08.meeting his future employers Manchester City in the last four.

:12:09. > :12:11.Tonight, the Europa League takes centre stage.

:12:12. > :12:16.A big night at Anfield as Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool

:12:17. > :12:21.take on his former club, Borussia Dortmund.

:12:22. > :12:23.The sides drew 1-1 in Germany a week ago,

:12:24. > :12:26.the crucial away goal against the tournament favourites,

:12:27. > :12:29.and Klopp is hoping the crowd will play their their part

:12:30. > :12:38.We have to do our job really. We have to be part of this atmosphere.

:12:39. > :12:40.We have to show that we know what it is about. And then, I am pretty sure

:12:41. > :12:49.that the crowd will help us. World number one Novak Djokovic has

:12:50. > :12:52.been beaten for the first time this year, losing in the second

:12:53. > :12:55.round of the Monte Carlo Masters. Big shock for tennis fans,

:12:56. > :12:57.considering Djokovic hasn't exited But unseeded Czech player

:12:58. > :13:01.Yiri Vesely got the better of him to go through to the third round -

:13:02. > :13:04.and it's the first time he's beaten It's not often you get a fairytale

:13:05. > :13:14.ending but one of basketball's all-time greats Kobe Bryant has had

:13:15. > :13:16.pretty much the perfect He scored 60 points as he ended

:13:17. > :13:20.his glittering 20-year And it finished with

:13:21. > :13:23.a win as the Lakers The crowd was full of celebrities,

:13:24. > :13:27.David Beckham and Jack Nicholson And the most expensive

:13:28. > :13:33.ticket was sold for almost Incredible. That is all the sport

:13:34. > :13:41.for now. We know all the reasons why

:13:42. > :13:44.women are leaving it Lack of money, building a career,

:13:45. > :13:50.not meeting the right partner. But it's a trend that really worries

:13:51. > :13:52.one leading fertility expert. She's here this morning to tell us

:13:53. > :13:55.exclusively about a pilot project she's launching in schools, to warn

:13:56. > :13:58.girls as young as 15 that delaying motherhood when they're older

:13:59. > :14:00.could lead to fertility problems. So before we talk to her,

:14:01. > :14:03.it's worth looking at The best available evidence shows

:14:04. > :14:06.that among couples having 92% of women aged between 19 and 26

:14:07. > :14:15.will conceive after one year. That drops to 86% among women

:14:16. > :14:19.aged between 27 and 34. And it drops again to 82% among

:14:20. > :14:23.women aged between 35 and 39. Let's talk Dr Geeta Nargund,

:14:24. > :14:28.director at Create Fertility, which treats couples

:14:29. > :14:31.with fertility problems. We're also joined by Tanith Lee,

:14:32. > :14:34.who was diagnosed with early Leanne Dulson went

:14:35. > :14:46.through four cycles of IVF before she had her son, Max,

:14:47. > :14:49.and admits she left pregnancy late. Jessica Hepburn, who runs

:14:50. > :14:51.theatres and is author She went through 11 cycles

:14:52. > :14:54.of failed IVF treatment. Her and her partner have unexplained

:14:55. > :14:57.infertility, so they still do not know why they were

:14:58. > :14:59.unable to have children. And joining us from Liverpool

:15:00. > :15:01.is actress Tina Malone. She had her first child at 17

:15:02. > :15:06.and her second at 50. Welcome all of you. Thank you very

:15:07. > :15:10.much for coming on the programme. Let's start with you, Professor.

:15:11. > :15:12.Let's get straight to the nub of this. When is it too late to

:15:13. > :15:46.conceive, in your view? profound in women compared to men.

:15:47. > :15:51.The fact is, fertility problems happen in one in six couples in the

:15:52. > :15:55.UK. Infidelity seems to be the second was common reason why a woman

:15:56. > :16:02.visits her GP. It is not something to be ignored and the message about

:16:03. > :16:06.fertility education is, to me, a proactive, preventative and

:16:07. > :16:15.progressive health education message. What is the message?

:16:16. > :16:20.215-year-old girls in state schools? It is for boys and girls, not just

:16:21. > :16:28.girls. Although the first school will be a school for girls. The

:16:29. > :16:34.fertility modules, which have been approved, or chicken from basics to

:16:35. > :16:40.what is available and it is precisely to give options to women,

:16:41. > :16:43.if they need to delay, what they should do to protect their fertility

:16:44. > :16:49.and the options available. The modules will involve basic

:16:50. > :16:54.physiology and biology information. In the terms you will say to

:16:55. > :16:58.15-year-olds, what would you say? What they will say is clearly a

:16:59. > :17:07.message that is about understanding their bodies and the biology about

:17:08. > :17:14.the production of eggs, and other issues... And the decline in your

:17:15. > :17:19.30s? Absolutely. It is a very clear and logical message about how the

:17:20. > :17:21.biological clock works and what we can do and lifestyle factors that

:17:22. > :17:34.can affect fertility. For both boys and girls. Those figures, they

:17:35. > :17:42.suggest that at age ten three, 82% will conceive after one year. --

:17:43. > :17:53.35-39. I must also point out, we do not want women to end up with just

:17:54. > :17:57.the image of conception, groups are providing IVF, in fertility is

:17:58. > :18:03.distressing and strip and can be stressful and it is not always

:18:04. > :18:09.available. You will say that? No, but the reason behind the strong

:18:10. > :18:13.message in protect thing, protecting fertility and you think education is

:18:14. > :18:17.we do not want them to end up with infertility if possible and

:18:18. > :18:23.protecting fertility, it is balanced and scientific and the modules are

:18:24. > :18:28.designed like that. Tina Malone, what do you think? I think it is

:18:29. > :18:34.ethically and morally wrong to tell 15-year-old boys and girls about

:18:35. > :18:41.infertility. We should be educating them about sexually transmitted

:18:42. > :18:46.diseases, about the decisions to make with exams and career choices

:18:47. > :18:51.and subject choices, we should be educating them on alcohol, drugs,

:18:52. > :18:57.stuff like that. Not telling them about infertility, which, hopefully,

:18:58. > :19:03.will not affect them until their mid-30s and for me, and I am the

:19:04. > :19:13.voice of experience here, I gave birth at 18 and at 50, I was a child

:19:14. > :19:19.with a child. In my opinion, 15-year-old girls have selective

:19:20. > :19:23.hearing, to tell a 15-year-old, you need to be worried about infertility

:19:24. > :19:28.possibly in the future, that gives them another excuse or reason to

:19:29. > :19:35.encourage illegitimate children, teenage pregnancy and we have that

:19:36. > :19:41.in abundance in this country. We should educate them and not tell

:19:42. > :19:46.them about infertility. Let us be honest, it is something that we need

:19:47. > :19:49.to address, young mothers and the problems that are then created in

:19:50. > :19:55.this country through a lack of education and a lack of support and

:19:56. > :20:07.women not being able to bring these children up? Thank you for that. But

:20:08. > :20:10.the message is, we introduce sex and relationship education and through

:20:11. > :20:15.that we have successfully reduced teenage pregnancy. We're talking

:20:16. > :20:19.about complete reproductive health education, not about infertility, it

:20:20. > :20:25.is about fertility and part of that is about lifestyle factors like

:20:26. > :20:30.smoking, alcohol, drugs, sexually transmitted infections, body weight,

:20:31. > :20:37.how they can affect fertility so it is not just about the impact of age,

:20:38. > :20:44.it is about the current lifestyle factors and what effect that can

:20:45. > :20:48.have on future health and ability. You were diagnosed with early

:20:49. > :20:53.menopause at 38, you had done to children, thank goodness. You might

:20:54. > :21:01.think? Is this a good idea for teenagers at school to have this

:21:02. > :21:03.conversation? I do, in respect to education for the entire life-cycle,

:21:04. > :21:09.it is really important, we need to know what happens. We have puberty

:21:10. > :21:12.and about pregnancy but we do not talk about hitting older,

:21:13. > :21:18.particularly with the menopause, well a 15-year-old engage with the

:21:19. > :21:22.word menopause? That is tricky but it is in Portland to have these

:21:23. > :21:29.conversations, to talk about all of these things that could be ten

:21:30. > :21:35.chilly happen. What do you think? Not at 15, information is brilliant

:21:36. > :21:40.but that has to be at the right time and place and at 15, you should be

:21:41. > :21:47.worrying about exams. What is the right age? I do not know, certainly

:21:48. > :21:52.University and people go on to make life changes. I can see why a school

:21:53. > :21:57.you have a captive audience and it does link with reproduction but at

:21:58. > :22:00.15, they are not kids for long enough and this is giving them

:22:01. > :22:09.another worry they may not even need. You had your son, Max, after

:22:10. > :22:17.IVF and that was after four cycles. How old are you? I am 40 next year.

:22:18. > :22:24.Have you considered, maybe I left it too late? Hindsight is wonderful. If

:22:25. > :22:29.I knew what I know now, we would have tried years earlier but it has

:22:30. > :22:34.to be at the right time and must fit into your lifestyle, when you are

:22:35. > :22:44.emotionally and financially able and where the relationship is. Jessica?

:22:45. > :22:49.I would agree with Geeta, it is understanding about fertility. The

:22:50. > :22:54.thing that is not properly understood is that you are born with

:22:55. > :22:59.your lifetime supply of eggs and they gradually diminish as you get

:23:00. > :23:03.older. And if you believe that having -- leave having a baby until

:23:04. > :23:12.your 30s, it will be harder to conceive. A little bit. What is

:23:13. > :23:17.difficult is it could be fine. The average age of first-time mothers is

:23:18. > :23:21.increasing. However, we also know that the fertility industry is

:23:22. > :23:28.booming because more couples are struggling. Tell me honestly,

:23:29. > :23:32.imagine you are 15 again and in a fertility lesson or whatever you

:23:33. > :23:40.call it, with your friends, and somebody tells you, when you are 30

:23:41. > :23:46.two X will decline, you will not be bothered, it will change how the

:23:47. > :23:50.rest of your life is led? It might not but that does not mean we should

:23:51. > :23:55.not communicate effects cause what is happening is a number of women

:23:56. > :24:06.entering their 40s without children has doubled from our parents. You

:24:07. > :24:10.want to, and? And I can tell you that most of those children are not

:24:11. > :24:15.childless by choice, it is through circumstance. That is why people are

:24:16. > :24:22.leaving this later. What I would say, Tina, you have been looking to

:24:23. > :24:29.have children. -- lucky. But the second was born through the donation

:24:30. > :24:38.of a egg? I do understand what you are saying about telling them about

:24:39. > :24:46.the depletion of eggs from 35 and Geeta is the doctor and I am not,

:24:47. > :24:51.but let us be realistic here. At 15, you should not be looking for

:24:52. > :24:57.another excuse to encourage teenage girls to get pregnant and let us be

:24:58. > :25:06.honest, women nowadays, ten years ago, 20 years ago, women were not as

:25:07. > :25:12.encouraged or a successful in the boardroom and in the theatre and in

:25:13. > :25:17.the arts, in every area, education... Lesson are more

:25:18. > :25:23.successful than they were ten years ago, 20 years ago. -- women. They

:25:24. > :25:27.are taking charge of their lives. They are educating themselves so

:25:28. > :25:35.what they are doing is leaving choices, possibly making wiser

:25:36. > :25:41.decisions... Let Geeta comeback. Thank you. I want to make it clear

:25:42. > :25:47.that we did talk about the decline in eggs and it is clearly not the

:25:48. > :25:53.same for every woman, someone and have a more rapid decline than

:25:54. > :25:59.others so these examples help. Women who smoke, girls who smoke... Those

:26:00. > :26:04.with thyroid problems or a history of early menopause, this is part of

:26:05. > :26:10.education as to how this will affect you. And secondly, I want to address

:26:11. > :26:15.the career aspect because we are precisely sitting here for that

:26:16. > :26:23.reason. To allow women to be successful in whatever they want to

:26:24. > :26:27.do. We should be telling women in their 20s or at university and in

:26:28. > :26:34.later education... This is about options. They can freeze their eggs.

:26:35. > :26:42.These are options that should be available. I just think this is

:26:43. > :26:47.about education and giving choice. And that is what is really

:26:48. > :26:51.important. And I just feel that some of the things you are saying are

:26:52. > :26:56.scaremongering. I do not think about myself or attempt to want to

:26:57. > :27:01.encourage teenage pregnancy. What we're saying we want young people to

:27:02. > :27:06.understand the fertility life-cycle and if they put off later

:27:07. > :27:14.motherhood, it could be harder and it could mean that you may not have

:27:15. > :27:21.children. This anybody know... I will not be really listening to you

:27:22. > :27:25.telling them that they are being told their eggs are declining...

:27:26. > :27:34.Does anybody know of any woman or man who has put off being a parent

:27:35. > :27:41.until, say, 36, because my job is going well? What was the reason? I

:27:42. > :27:45.know of people, they say they will not have children until their 30s

:27:46. > :27:49.because they cannot afford to put a deposit on a house, I cannot afford

:27:50. > :27:57.to be socially, mentally, physically in the right place to bring a child

:27:58. > :28:02.into the world. Is that dot the most sensible thing? Absolutely, they

:28:03. > :28:13.need to be ready. That goes without saying. It is kind of irrelevant. It

:28:14. > :28:16.is empowerment and education. If I was a 15-year-old worried about my

:28:17. > :28:22.career and what I was going to wear on Friday night, and, as an

:28:23. > :28:26.18-year-old I had a child to bring up and I am not comfortable, I have

:28:27. > :28:32.my house, education, the confidence to give a child more so than in my

:28:33. > :28:42.younger years... You already do not like this idea of 15-year-olds? I

:28:43. > :28:49.think at 15 it is too young. I just think it does need to be something

:28:50. > :28:51.people are aware of, people say they will get their promotion and wait

:28:52. > :28:58.until they work overseas for a couple of years and wake the right

:28:59. > :29:04.boy. We bombard teenagers with too much information. I understand that

:29:05. > :29:09.Jessica and Geeta are coming from a good place but we should be talking

:29:10. > :29:16.them into going into education and discussing moral codes of etiquette

:29:17. > :29:21.and socially how they should be, hoping to change the world and

:29:22. > :29:23.change their lives, educate themselves, socially and morally and

:29:24. > :29:29.make the world a better place, rather than telling them, hear is

:29:30. > :29:32.another excuse to get pregnant? I got pregnant because some body

:29:33. > :29:40.mentioned to me that I might not be able to in my 30s. It is not like

:29:41. > :29:44.that. We can do all of that. We can educate about all of that, it is

:29:45. > :29:49.about education and knowing about what happens to the female body at a

:29:50. > :29:56.fundamental level. Take yourself back to when you were a 15-year-old.

:29:57. > :30:02.I am torn, I may not have engaged at that age but we did talk about sex

:30:03. > :30:08.and schools many years ago, so it is about having that conversation. And

:30:09. > :30:15.sex education is generally very poor and schools at the moment. We have

:30:16. > :30:20.spoken to parents about whether it is the right age from 15 and we have

:30:21. > :30:28.spoken to enlightened teachers and we have come up with these modules

:30:29. > :30:32.for fertility education after having conversations and consultation with

:30:33. > :30:38.the relevant stakeholders. We actually asked teachers to ask

:30:39. > :30:42.students and I can say that since the campaign began, there are lots

:30:43. > :30:47.of pupils who have been interviewed by television and radio and they

:30:48. > :30:49.say, we would love to know about this but this is about choice and

:30:50. > :30:58.what options are available. To let you read the messages from

:30:59. > :31:04.people watching the country. Alexandra says, I started trying to

:31:05. > :31:11.conceive a 26 and with no results after two years I have just finished

:31:12. > :31:17.my first round of IVF at 28. In not all cases is it true that if you try

:31:18. > :31:20.for children in your prime, you will not suffer from fertility problems.

:31:21. > :31:29.I am now five weeks pregnant thanks to IVF. Mag says I got pregnant with

:31:30. > :31:34.my first baby at 34 and now, after 22 months, I am planning a second.

:31:35. > :31:41.Healthy mums have healthy babies. Remember, babies, look after

:31:42. > :31:45.yourselves. -- remember, ladies. Helen says that she thinks that

:31:46. > :31:50.teaching can affect fertility. I did not meet my husband until I was 39

:31:51. > :31:53.and we tried to have a baby but it took three years of investigation

:31:54. > :31:58.and operations. When I was finally in a position to start IVF, I was

:31:59. > :32:05.given just a 5% chance of having children. Luckily, I had to boys,

:32:06. > :32:09.one now aged 44 and the other 46. Stella says, I am a mother of two

:32:10. > :32:14.boys but I always vote if I had a girl, I would encourage her not to

:32:15. > :32:17.delay. A couple more on Facebook, Samantha says that children should

:32:18. > :32:25.be taught that it is OK to wait until they are ready to have kids.

:32:26. > :32:28.It would be bought the lignite better to teach them to aim higher

:32:29. > :32:39.in terms of careers and seeing the world before they have children. --

:32:40. > :32:41.it would be better to teach them. Thank you very much, all of you.

:32:42. > :32:45.Thank you for coming on the programme. I am sure we will get

:32:46. > :32:49.loads more messages on that and we will try to read as many as possible

:32:50. > :32:54.throughout the programme. Get in touch in the usual way. Still to

:32:55. > :32:57.come, calls for Britain to get tougher to beat internet trawls.

:32:58. > :33:01.We'll talk to an MP campaigning to toughen legislation to protect

:33:02. > :33:08.people from online bullies. And when did you last get a pay rise? Bob

:33:09. > :33:14.Dudley, the BT boss -- BP boss, is in line for a pay rise of 2 billion

:33:15. > :33:17.quid, as jobs are cut at his company. We will look at why several

:33:18. > :33:23.shareholders are planning to block that pay rise. Good morning. Here is

:33:24. > :33:28.Ben with the news. is to make his first significant

:33:29. > :33:31.intervention in the European He will use a speech in London this

:33:32. > :33:40.morning to urge his supporters to back the European Union "warts

:33:41. > :33:43.and all" - but he'll argue Two migrants, who are

:33:44. > :33:54.believed to be from Iran, have been rescued from an inflatable

:33:55. > :33:56.boat off the coast of Dover. of this morning, but didn't

:33:57. > :34:00.know their exact position. They were picked up by a lifeboat

:34:01. > :34:03.after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate

:34:04. > :34:14.them after spotting a light Several investors in BP are planning

:34:15. > :34:19.to vote against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to its Chief Executive.

:34:20. > :34:22.They are angry that his pay will rise to almost ?40 million at a time

:34:23. > :34:27.when profits are falling and jobs being lost. The company has defended

:34:28. > :34:31.the increase saying that his performance has surpassed

:34:32. > :34:36.expectation. A leading fertility expert is launching a pilot project

:34:37. > :34:44.in schools to warn girls as young as 15 that delaying motherhood could

:34:45. > :34:48.lead to fertility problems. The medical director at Creates

:34:49. > :34:52.Fertility told this programme why she believes it is so important for

:34:53. > :34:58.women to be aware of potential problems from a young age. I think

:34:59. > :35:03.what is important is that there is an age related decline in fertility,

:35:04. > :35:08.which is worse in women than men. The fact is that fertility problems

:35:09. > :35:14.happen in one in six couples in the UK. Infertility seems to be the

:35:15. > :35:17.second most common reason why a woman will visit a general

:35:18. > :35:21.practitioner. It is not something to be ignored and I think that the

:35:22. > :35:27.message here about fertility education is, to me, a proactive,

:35:28. > :35:31.preventative and progressive health education message.

:35:32. > :35:34.The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth

:35:35. > :35:37.They touched down in the country this morning.

:35:38. > :35:46.They were greeted by a Bhutanese girl and boy bearing bunches of

:35:47. > :35:51.flowers. They are respected to meet the king and queen of the small

:35:52. > :35:54.Malayan kingdom today. -- they are expected. That is a summary of the

:35:55. > :36:20.BBC News. More at 10pm. Champions League favourites and

:36:21. > :36:26.defending champions Barcelona are out of the competition. Atletico

:36:27. > :36:31.Madrid beat them to nil, overcoming the loss in the first leg on

:36:32. > :36:36.aggregate. Novak Djokavic has been beaten for the first time this year,

:36:37. > :36:39.losing in the second round of the Monte Carlo Masters. He was beaten

:36:40. > :36:44.by unseeded Czech player, Jiri Vesely. It is the first and he has

:36:45. > :36:49.exited a tournament of this early since 2013. And in Formula 1, Lewis

:36:50. > :36:54.Hamilton will be given a five place grid penalty at the Chinese Grand

:36:55. > :36:58.Prix on Sunday, having decided to change his damaged gearbox, which is

:36:59. > :37:03.against the rules. Is enough being done to confront online abuse? Maria

:37:04. > :37:07.Millar, the former culture secretary, says that the government

:37:08. > :37:10.needs to update laws and work more closely with the internet giant to

:37:11. > :37:15.prevent what she calls a nightmare future for young people online.

:37:16. > :37:18.We'll speak to Maria in a moment, but first here's a clip

:37:19. > :37:21.of when the singer, Frankie Bridge, who has also been the victim

:37:22. > :37:26.of online abuse, confronted a former internet troll.

:37:27. > :37:34.Why do patrol people? What do you get out of it? I do not trawl any

:37:35. > :37:40.more. I used to. And why do you? It was to get a buzz. I get a reply of

:37:41. > :37:47.the people that I am trolling. The favourites, the retweets. People

:37:48. > :37:54.join in, and then sometimes it becomes a competition between

:37:55. > :37:58.trawls. Sometimes. Like you can be the nastiest? So the buzz that you

:37:59. > :38:02.get, is that from being horrible to someone or is the buzz from getting

:38:03. > :38:10.the attention? It is just getting tweets and favourites. Why do you

:38:11. > :38:15.enjoy the attention online? Would you be like that to someone in

:38:16. > :38:19.person, like you have said that you would rape someone or you have

:38:20. > :38:23.called them a bitch or something on Twitter, would you say that in

:38:24. > :38:29.person? No. I am a totally different person. So why do you think it is OK

:38:30. > :38:34.online? Because I think you are anonymous and you are not going to

:38:35. > :38:39.get caught. And did you not ever think how that made that person feel

:38:40. > :38:46.that you were saying that too. No. You do not think what saying.

:38:47. > :38:49.Maria Miller joins me now from our Westminster studio.

:38:50. > :38:55.Good morning. Tell us about this nightmare future. You have just

:38:56. > :38:59.heard in that report that people do not feel that there are consequences

:39:00. > :39:05.to the activity they undertake online. And the concern I have is

:39:06. > :39:09.that this feeds through to not just young people in terms of their

:39:10. > :39:12.relationships with each other, and what they think is acceptable, but

:39:13. > :39:19.also young children's access to pornography, which is now almost

:39:20. > :39:23.unlimited access. We are sleepwalking into some extremely

:39:24. > :39:27.serious problems. Unless we undertake a radical reform of the

:39:28. > :39:31.way that the law tackles these sorts of activities online. Tell me what

:39:32. > :39:38.examples you could give of legislation that could deter

:39:39. > :39:42.somebody from posting pornography online that would stop a young

:39:43. > :39:48.person clicking on it. I can give you a clear example of how putting

:39:49. > :39:51.in place a bespoke online laws has really helped to tackle a problem

:39:52. > :39:58.and that is in the area of revenge pornography. Along with a dedicated

:39:59. > :40:05.group of people, I campaigned to get a dedicated law to outlaw the

:40:06. > :40:09.posting of illicit and sexual images of people online without their

:40:10. > :40:14.permission. And we now see people starting to take that much more

:40:15. > :40:18.seriously and the increases in the number of reports and prosecutions

:40:19. > :40:23.is testament to the fact that bespoke laws can really help to

:40:24. > :40:27.unearth the scale of this problem and show people that there are

:40:28. > :40:32.consequences to their actions. So are you saying that you could do

:40:33. > :40:36.something similar to stop people posting pornography online? I think

:40:37. > :40:43.in terms of posting and accessing pornography online, obviously that

:40:44. > :40:47.is pornography, pornography is legal over the age of 18, but the issue is

:40:48. > :40:52.making sure that those that are placing material online, that it is

:40:53. > :40:54.legal material, and that they are doing what they should be doing to

:40:55. > :40:59.make sure that access is only for those over the age of 18. I think

:41:00. > :41:07.what this points out is that there is a cornucopia of problems with

:41:08. > :41:10.online activity and that illegal activity is going unchallenged in

:41:11. > :41:14.some areas. The government needs to have a review of the law, and also

:41:15. > :41:19.look at the way that those providing online services police their own

:41:20. > :41:22.products. We would not expect a supermarket to be putting illegal

:41:23. > :41:26.products on their shelves and letting people purchase them, yet at

:41:27. > :41:30.the moment we seem to not have effective measures to stop the same

:41:31. > :41:36.thing happening within social media platforms. So there is a two pronged

:41:37. > :41:39.approach, better laws, more clear, concise laws, and also perhaps a

:41:40. > :41:45.change of culture or mindset about the internet two we know, many

:41:46. > :41:49.people say it is about freedom of access and expression, and freedom

:41:50. > :41:51.of speech. As a nation, we have always realise that freedom of

:41:52. > :41:58.speech comes with responsibilities. At the moment, those that are

:41:59. > :42:04.exercising their right to freedom of speech online, sometimes, people are

:42:05. > :42:08.not really understanding the responsibilities that they have when

:42:09. > :42:13.they undertake that right of freedom. Nobody has the right to

:42:14. > :42:15.abuse somebody. Nobody has the right to the fame and individual online,

:42:16. > :42:20.but at the moment, because of the way the industry has set itself up,

:42:21. > :42:24.people can get away with those sorts of crimes without being challenged

:42:25. > :42:28.because the law is such a patchwork, and very difficult to implement. Is

:42:29. > :42:33.anyone listening in the government is to what you were saying? The

:42:34. > :42:37.Crown Prosecution Service has just launched a further consultation

:42:38. > :42:41.around the issue of impersonation, people setting up web pages that are

:42:42. > :42:45.pretending to be somebody they are not. And that is to be welcomed. But

:42:46. > :42:49.this piecemeal approach is really not tackling the underlying problem,

:42:50. > :42:53.that we need to have a future proofed framework of legislation, a

:42:54. > :42:59.clear framework for operators to operate within, and most importantly

:43:00. > :43:02.of all, to ensure that there is a strong education programmes people

:43:03. > :43:06.know that they will potentially have a criminal conviction if they

:43:07. > :43:10.undertake the sort of activities that your report showed was perhaps

:43:11. > :43:15.sometimes just bravado, but leaving people victims appalling abuse in

:43:16. > :43:23.their wake. Thank you for talking to us. They do for your comments on

:43:24. > :43:29.plans to teach teenagers that potentially delaying her becoming a

:43:30. > :43:40.parent could cause infertility problems. Helga tweeted, it is

:43:41. > :43:43.outrageous. 15-year-olds should be concentrating on GCSEs and healthy

:43:44. > :43:47.relationships, not fertility. Martina says, here we go again,

:43:48. > :43:51.women being blamed for having children. Women can do what they

:43:52. > :43:54.like even if they do not want children. And Nick says, I do not

:43:55. > :43:58.think it is necessary to be taught in schools. It is something you

:43:59. > :44:01.learn and decide during your 20s and 30s and I cannot see how that would

:44:02. > :44:07.have an immediate effect on you when you leave school. Coming up, Jeremy

:44:08. > :44:10.Corbyn has spent a lot of his career criticising the European Union. This

:44:11. > :44:15.morning he will set out why he thinks that you should vote to stay

:44:16. > :44:20.in when it comes to June's referendum. We will hear some of the

:44:21. > :44:22.speech live and we will talk to two undecided voters to see what they

:44:23. > :44:26.think of what he has to say. Does any boss, right now,

:44:27. > :44:29.in a time of wage restraint and very very low inflation,

:44:30. > :44:31.deserve a 20% pay rise? Particularly when the company the

:44:32. > :44:34.boss runs has seen falling profits? Oil giant BP is holding its annual

:44:35. > :44:38.general meeting for shareholders in London today and some of those

:44:39. > :44:41.shareholders are planning to vote against their chief executive

:44:42. > :44:47.Bob Dudley's 20% wage rise, which, by the way, would take his pay

:44:48. > :44:50.packet to ?13.8 million. The tricky thing is,

:44:51. > :44:54.some of those same shareholders voted for the very pay

:44:55. > :44:57.policy that's led to this And, the company says,

:44:58. > :45:01.BP's performance has "surpassed the board's expectations on almost

:45:02. > :45:03.all of the measures John Purcell is a headhunter

:45:04. > :45:12.at Purcell Co and Stefan Stern is the director

:45:13. > :45:24.of the High Pay Centre. What is that? We are a think tank

:45:25. > :45:30.that looks at high pay. What do think tanks to? We think, research

:45:31. > :45:39.and come on television! Perfect! Is it too much? 20%? It does look very

:45:40. > :45:43.odd. Their biggest ever losses for 20 years, thousands of jobs gone,

:45:44. > :45:47.his pension is going up hugely as part of this deal and that is a

:45:48. > :45:51.tough message for the former BP employees who are more concerned

:45:52. > :45:55.about their own future and for talented people in the industry.

:45:56. > :46:00.They will look at BPL thing, is that where I want to go? This is a CEO

:46:01. > :46:06.who is rewarded for getting rid of people at a time of losses. Is that

:46:07. > :46:09.the career path I want? This is problematic and this is why

:46:10. > :46:15.investors are speak up -- speaking up because they will think, this is

:46:16. > :46:19.not a good business decision. As shareholders who voted for this very

:46:20. > :46:23.formula? There are some unintended circumstances and we do not know

:46:24. > :46:31.what the numbers will be an awesome on things, in one sense... Safety

:46:32. > :46:35.was excellent? And so it should be and whether history that is

:46:36. > :46:41.important but is that not part of the job anyway? Of running a big

:46:42. > :46:46.company? Health and safety is a given, why get a bonus for that? I

:46:47. > :46:51.would raise that as a question. What do you think? Taking a swipe at

:46:52. > :46:58.Executive page is the political equivalent of an open goal. It is

:46:59. > :47:07.easy at 20%? What is inflation? 1.2%. But anyway, the issue of

:47:08. > :47:11.Executive page, it is easy but the point is, the schema set out number

:47:12. > :47:16.two years ago and a new scheme will be brought in after this point which

:47:17. > :47:21.could change the system. But if they were to physically rip up the deal

:47:22. > :47:25.that was agreed, that would also send out a bad message that you

:47:26. > :47:30.cannot trust us, if you see we can do something and you meet those

:47:31. > :47:37.targets and then we will not pay you, I don't think anybody in any

:47:38. > :47:43.job would accept those conditions. If investors vote against this

:47:44. > :47:48.today, doesn't mean that he will not get that 20% pay rise? It is

:47:49. > :47:52.non-binding, it will be an indication of displeasure but unless

:47:53. > :47:58.they get a huge majority, I do not think this will affect the outcome.

:47:59. > :48:02.Do they really mean it if they vote against it or is this just to send a

:48:03. > :48:07.signal that they are against Executive pay? A bit of both, they

:48:08. > :48:11.would be embarrassed but they genuinely think that this number is

:48:12. > :48:15.much too big and they will say it is damaging the interests of the

:48:16. > :48:19.company by being seen to be overpaying at a time of constraint

:48:20. > :48:25.for everyone else. When we talk about investors and shareholders,

:48:26. > :48:29.who are they? That there's fair question, shareholders or a wide

:48:30. > :48:34.range of people, who hold shares for a longer period, some of them trade

:48:35. > :48:38.them instantly, at home on their laptop while watching this

:48:39. > :48:44.programme. The asset managers, the fund managers, they represent big

:48:45. > :48:49.pools of shares so the individual shareholders will go to the AGM,

:48:50. > :48:55.grandparents, retirees, that is a tiny proportion, we call them

:48:56. > :48:59.shareholders but as a way of powerful conversations, that is

:49:00. > :49:04.between about 25 people... Institutional shareholders. The

:49:05. > :49:07.individuals taking these decisions on votes. And they are also

:49:08. > :49:12.desensitised from some of these bigger numbers because they are all

:49:13. > :49:17.in a very big number again, people around the table are used to big

:49:18. > :49:21.numbers and that is partly why some of these numbers get signed through.

:49:22. > :49:26.Is that fair? They are so used to these numbers, that they are in an

:49:27. > :49:34.almost insular world, they do not see... Or is that very naive? You

:49:35. > :49:38.are moving into the territory of hating the game and not the players

:49:39. > :49:42.and what I mean is, it is easy to pick out individuals, next week it

:49:43. > :49:49.will be Sir Martin Sorrell, the advertising guy, he will get ?60

:49:50. > :49:55.million. He will be the target next week. I'll be saying we hate the

:49:56. > :50:00.game overall? Or are we after individual players? If it is the

:50:01. > :50:04.overall picture, that is a very big job because we're talking about

:50:05. > :50:11.capitalism itself, how do we want to run the world? Best people for the

:50:12. > :50:14.job and all that? It is huge conversation and not one given to

:50:15. > :50:18.easy headlines. It is easy to generate a headline but it does not

:50:19. > :50:26.bring you very far. ?60 million every year? Yes. But something is

:50:27. > :50:29.missing from this game and that is the voice of the ordinary worker and

:50:30. > :50:35.employee, there is no representative of the workforce sitting around the

:50:36. > :50:37.table when they renew a committee is coming up with these numbers and

:50:38. > :50:44.that is partly why we get these almost unreal numbers. Nobody from

:50:45. > :50:53.the shop floor, the oil rigs, engineers, saying 20%? ?40 million?

:50:54. > :50:58.Somebody needs to say that. It has been my view that for some time the

:50:59. > :51:03.nonexecutive directors of public companies have been asleep at the

:51:04. > :51:10.wheel. What are they doing? It is a key part of their job to hold the

:51:11. > :51:16.board to account. There is a sense that it isn't old boys club, it is a

:51:17. > :51:20.merry-go-round, I think it is changing and there are more women

:51:21. > :51:23.coming on board as nonexecutive directors to bring some balance but

:51:24. > :51:28.I think that nonexecutive is, it has become much tougher and they need to

:51:29. > :51:31.step up and do the job. Thank you both very much.

:51:32. > :51:33.Coming up - yet more cats have been killed

:51:34. > :51:37.We'll be speaking to one victim and those trying

:51:38. > :51:51.Thank you for your thoughts but plans to teach teenagers as

:51:52. > :51:54.potentially delaying becoming apparent could cause infertility

:51:55. > :52:01.problems. Cirrus, why are we teaching teenagers about infertility

:52:02. > :52:06.before consent? Stop by the -- stop prioritising biology over welfare.

:52:07. > :52:08.Another says, what about ensuring a family as a cohesive unit and

:52:09. > :52:14.financially stable before having a child? Children should be taught

:52:15. > :52:17.that it is OK for children to wait until the ready to have children,

:52:18. > :52:21.especially considering the high number of teenage pregnancies in the

:52:22. > :52:25.UK, it would be better to teach them to aim higher in terms of careers

:52:26. > :52:28.and seeing the world first. Before choosing to be anchored with

:52:29. > :52:31.children. And that message was so good, I have read it twice!

:52:32. > :52:34.In the next few minutes the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn,

:52:35. > :52:36.will set out why he thinks Britain is better off staying

:52:37. > :52:39.We'll bring you that speech live when it happens.

:52:40. > :52:43.His position on Europe is backed by most of his MPs

:52:44. > :52:45.in the Labour Party, but Mr Corbyn himself has not

:52:46. > :52:50.Over his 33 years as an MP, his views on Britain's relationship

:52:51. > :52:53.with Europe have changed and it's brought him in for a fair

:52:54. > :52:57.Leave campaigners say he's backtracking after years

:52:58. > :53:05.The Remain camp say he hasn't been vocal enough in backing them.

:53:06. > :53:13.In the next hour he'll give a speech setting out why he now thinks

:53:14. > :53:20.But let's look back at his past positions.

:53:21. > :53:22.In 1975 Jeremy Corbyn voted to leave the European Economic Community,

:53:23. > :53:30.which is what the EU was known as then.

:53:31. > :53:33.Then, in 1993, he criticised the Maastricht Treaty,

:53:34. > :53:36.which established the European Union.

:53:37. > :53:39.In reference to the economy he said it took power away from national

:53:40. > :53:43.parliaments and put it in the hands "an unelected set of bankers".

:53:44. > :53:49.Here's him making his case against the EU in 1996.

:53:50. > :53:52.You have European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody.

:53:53. > :53:54.Powers have gone from national parliaments, they haven't gone

:53:55. > :53:58.They've gone to the Commission and, to some extent,

:53:59. > :54:03.He also voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2008 -

:54:04. > :54:06.a treaty which made changes to the European Union to make

:54:07. > :54:13.Then, during his leadership campaign last year, he refused to rule out

:54:14. > :54:19.In one hustings he said he had "mixed feelings" and accused the EU

:54:20. > :54:27.Now he says the UK should remain, but says he's not on the same side

:54:28. > :54:30.He wants a "social Europe" that protects workers' rights

:54:31. > :54:39.Here in the studio we're joined by our two undecided voters,

:54:40. > :54:44.who we spoke to last month - Kerry Gadd and Jarel Robinson-Brown.

:54:45. > :54:48.We're going to see if Corbyn's speech helps any of you make your

:54:49. > :55:01.One of the is leaning towards staying? Me! And one is leaning

:55:02. > :55:05.towards getting out? And we will ask you to watch some of the speech and

:55:06. > :55:09.see if it has any impact whatsoever in terms of your decision. Have you

:55:10. > :55:15.been picking up speeches that people have been making? Reading and going

:55:16. > :55:21.online? Or is it switching you off? In my opinion, I think it is

:55:22. > :55:26.switching me off because the more speeches and reports that I read,

:55:27. > :55:31.they seem to be more leaning for the politicians to understand rather

:55:32. > :55:37.than the public themselves. So there is a lot of noise and is this going

:55:38. > :55:43.over your head? Yes. I would agree with Kerry, I still feel, I am

:55:44. > :55:48.hearing lots of information but it is not that clear and I have not had

:55:49. > :55:54.this document that some people have had through the door. The leaflet

:55:55. > :56:00.explaining why. I think that would help. All of the things that I have

:56:01. > :56:06.watched, for some reason might... That is interesting, you think the

:56:07. > :56:08.taxpayer money spent producing this leaflet to explain why the

:56:09. > :56:16.government wants to devote to remain will help? I think. I think the

:56:17. > :56:19.government will try to make things as clear as possible and I am hoping

:56:20. > :56:24.that this case and actually in my present an argument that I can

:56:25. > :56:34.sympathise with. Possibly. But I do not know what is in it. It is about

:56:35. > :56:41.this big. Black and Whites. I very much agree with Jarel, but it would

:56:42. > :56:48.hopefully persuade me to make a decision, yes! Do you feel a big

:56:49. > :56:54.responsibility when it comes to this vote? There are still ten weeks.

:56:55. > :57:00.There is still plenty of time. But it is your decision. This is the

:57:01. > :57:04.future of your country! I do feel a lot of responsibility, I keep

:57:05. > :57:08.thinking of the next generation and generations after us who will have

:57:09. > :57:12.to live with this decision. Who knows how long it will be until

:57:13. > :57:19.another referendum. And for me, that is quite important because I feel a

:57:20. > :57:21.sense of responsibility. Are you having any conversations with

:57:22. > :57:28.friends and relatives about this? Or are you getting on with life in the

:57:29. > :57:32.real world? I have spoken to my father-in-law about it, we have

:57:33. > :57:38.discussed about leaving and which side is better but I said I am still

:57:39. > :57:43.undecided. I really do hope that politicians and Jeremy Corbyn today

:57:44. > :57:50.will address something that would help me relate to what he says,

:57:51. > :57:55.basically. But yes, I have not spoken to many people, I have been

:57:56. > :57:59.looking on my own, in my own time, just getting on with my life and I

:58:00. > :58:06.still do not understand what is going on! Like a lot of people. You

:58:07. > :58:09.will watch the speech from Jeremy Corbyn and we will talk to but

:58:10. > :58:17.afterwards to see if it resonates in any way. And we will hear Jeremy

:58:18. > :58:26.Corbyn speaking live just after 10am. That is the audience waiting.

:58:27. > :58:30.Let's get the latest weather update. We have the highest temperature in

:58:31. > :58:35.England so far, reaching 19 degrees yesterday. Don't get used to it, it

:58:36. > :58:40.will get colder over the next 48 hours, cold for some snow over the

:58:41. > :58:46.hills. Some sunshine to start this morning, this was Christchurch, most

:58:47. > :58:50.people started cloudy, this was the scene in Barnsley in West Yorkshire.

:58:51. > :58:55.Across the North, we had thicker cloud bringing showers across North

:58:56. > :58:58.Wales, through Cheshire and the Greater Manchester area and those

:58:59. > :59:02.showers will continue into parts of Yorkshire as well over the next few

:59:03. > :59:05.hours and through the rest of the day the skies will try to brighten

:59:06. > :59:09.up, there will be some decent sunshine to come across south-east

:59:10. > :59:14.England, it will feel warm in the sun and Ted Richards climbing to 18

:59:15. > :59:18.degrees and staying dry. Further north, some showers breaking out and

:59:19. > :59:22.they will turn heavy and thundery and a change in the weather later

:59:23. > :59:27.on, a band of rain pushing into parts of south-west England and that

:59:28. > :59:30.will turn heavy into the evening. Before North of England, Northern

:59:31. > :59:34.Ireland and Scotland, there will be a lot of cloud around but still some

:59:35. > :59:38.brighter spells getting through at times and temperatures, struggling

:59:39. > :59:43.with highs of eight or 9 degrees for many. Overnight, one area of rain

:59:44. > :59:46.pushing from the south, moving into Central parts of England and Wales

:59:47. > :59:52.but at the same time another band of rain sinking southwards across

:59:53. > :59:55.Scotland and behind this, the air gets significantly colder so it will

:59:56. > :59:58.be cold enough to see some of rain turning to snow over some of the

:59:59. > :00:05.Scottish high ground, April snow for some of us. Friday, these two bands

:00:06. > :00:08.of rain wrecks together, bringing a lot of cloud with outbreaks of rain

:00:09. > :00:11.around and it will be a cooler day across southern areas of England and

:00:12. > :00:14.Wales temperature recent days but not as cold as it will be further

:00:15. > :00:18.north than northerly wind settling in, which we showers on the way and

:00:19. > :00:24.temperatures, for some, around 6 degrees. Through Friday night, this

:00:25. > :00:28.low pressure moves into the continent and that opens the door

:00:29. > :00:32.for cold northerly winds to plunge from the Arctic so it will be chilly

:00:33. > :00:35.for the start of the weekend and we will have an area of rain attention

:00:36. > :00:40.to bringing some flakes of snow over some of the higher hills for easing

:00:41. > :00:44.off. Cold winter Saturday and Ted Richards struggling, highs of 9

:00:45. > :00:47.degrees in the North and just about poking into double figures in the

:00:48. > :00:51.South but in those colder winds will feel chilly. This weekend that

:00:52. > :00:56.starting especially well, things getting drier and brighter through

:00:57. > :00:57.Sunday at it will stay on the cool side as well but the best sunshine

:00:58. > :01:09.likely towards the south-west. Good morning. I am Victoria

:01:10. > :01:13.Derbyshire and welcome to the programme. Jeremy Corbyn has spent a

:01:14. > :01:16.lot of his career criticising the European Union and in a few minutes

:01:17. > :01:21.he will give a speech setting out why he thinks you should vote to

:01:22. > :01:26.stay in the EU in June's vote. We will bring you the speech live in a

:01:27. > :01:31.minute or two. We will be discussing whether 15-year-olds should be

:01:32. > :01:35.taught that delayed parenthood leads to problems having children. This is

:01:36. > :01:40.a debate that has got to talking. Clearly, this is a message about

:01:41. > :01:48.biology and understanding of bodies and biology. It is about eggs, the

:01:49. > :01:53.production of eggs,... And the number of eggs decline in your 30s?

:01:54. > :01:59.Absolutely. You can see the full discussion on our programme page:

:02:00. > :02:03.And two months after we told you about a series of cat killings

:02:04. > :02:05.across London, get more have been found dead.

:02:06. > :02:14.We talked to one victim's owner and those trying to catch the killer.

:02:15. > :02:27.Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with a summary of the day's news.

:02:28. > :02:31.is to make his first significant intervention in the European

:02:32. > :02:37.In a speech in central London in the next few minutes, he is expected to

:02:38. > :02:41.say that the EU provides workers rights as well as environmental

:02:42. > :02:44.protection. He will acknowledge shortcomings in Brussels but will

:02:45. > :02:45.argue that reform should be sought for within. We will bring you that

:02:46. > :02:48.speech live a very shortly. Two migrants, who are

:02:49. > :02:51.believed to be from Iran, have been rescued from an inflatable

:02:52. > :02:53.boat off the coast of Dover. They were picked up by a lifeboat

:02:54. > :02:56.after eight hours at sea. A passing ferry helped to locate

:02:57. > :03:08.them after spotting a light Delays in accident and emergency

:03:09. > :03:13.units in England have had regular levels for the second month in a

:03:14. > :03:19.row. Figures show 87.8% of patients were dealt with within the four

:03:20. > :03:21.hours. The target is 95%. Delays in discharging patients who were ready

:03:22. > :03:29.to leave hospital remained at historically high levels. Five

:03:30. > :03:33.police officers were injured during a confrontation in Sheffield last

:03:34. > :03:39.night with a man armed with an axe. The man was arrested on suspicion of

:03:40. > :03:42.attentive murder. Several large investors in the oil giant, BP,

:03:43. > :03:46.planned to vote against a decision to give a 20% pay rise to its Chief

:03:47. > :03:52.Executive. They are angry that his pay packet will rise to almost ?40

:03:53. > :03:56.billion -- ?40 million at a time when BP's profits are falling and

:03:57. > :04:00.jobs are being lost. The company defended the increase, saying that

:04:01. > :04:04.his performance has surpassed expectations. Stephan Stern is from

:04:05. > :04:08.a research group looking into executive pay and told this

:04:09. > :04:12.programme that the increases seems odd at the current time. His pension

:04:13. > :04:16.is going up hugely as part of this deal and that is a pretty tough

:04:17. > :04:20.message for former BP employees who are perhaps more concerned about

:04:21. > :04:24.their future now. And for talented people in the industry, they look at

:04:25. > :04:28.BP and they think, is that where I want to go? This is a CEO that seems

:04:29. > :04:32.to be getting rewarded for getting rid of people during a time of

:04:33. > :04:40.losses. Is that of the career path I want to? Is that the culture I want

:04:41. > :04:41.to join? This is problematic and that is not a good business decision

:04:42. > :04:45.for the company. Two teenage girls have been arrested

:04:46. > :04:48.on suspicion of kidnapping a three-year-old girl

:04:49. > :04:49.in Newcastle city centre. Police launched a large scale search

:04:50. > :04:52.after the child went missing from the Primark store

:04:53. > :04:54.in Northumberland Street She was found just over an hour

:04:55. > :04:58.later a few miles away in Gosforth. The 13 and 14 year old teenagers

:04:59. > :05:01.are in custody on suspicion The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

:05:02. > :05:09.have arrived in Bhutan on the fifth They touched down in

:05:10. > :05:17.the country this morning. They were greeted by aborigines girl

:05:18. > :05:21.and boy bearing bunches of flowers. They are expected to spend the day

:05:22. > :05:27.watching a traditional archery match and meeting the King and queen of

:05:28. > :05:29.this small Himalayan kingdom. That is the summary of the latest BBC

:05:30. > :05:37.News. Back to Victoria. Thanks for your comments about

:05:38. > :05:42.whether teenagers should be taught about the risks of delaying

:05:43. > :05:47.parenthood. Cassie says, I am 39 and struggling with fertility and I

:05:48. > :05:51.wished I knew how hard it was. Matt Dea says 15-year-old are too young

:05:52. > :05:56.for exposure to fertility. Don't bombard kids with this. And from

:05:57. > :06:01.Rebecca, I am 31 and sick of being told I need to have children now. I

:06:02. > :06:05.live in a rented flat and my job is not secure. Surely this is not the

:06:06. > :06:09.right situation to have a child just because I may experience fertility

:06:10. > :06:17.issues. If you are texting, you will be charged at the usual network

:06:18. > :06:20.rate. Here is the sport. We're talking netball this morning because

:06:21. > :06:24.Manchester Thunder and Yorkshire Jets are on the verge of history

:06:25. > :06:29.ahead of an end of season clash on Monday. I am delighted to say that

:06:30. > :06:34.Sara Bayman is with me. You can tell us better than most, why are these

:06:35. > :06:38.teams about to enter the record books? Hopefully it will be the

:06:39. > :06:42.biggest domestic game ever in this country. We are holding it in the

:06:43. > :06:48.Manchester Arena and hoping for a massive crowd. With it being a

:06:49. > :06:51.Yorkshire, yanking the -- Yorkshire and Lancashire rivalry, we hope to

:06:52. > :06:59.get a lot of support. How many fans are you expecting? At the moment,

:07:00. > :07:03.the record is 6500, so if we can get close to that, we will be happy.

:07:04. > :07:08.What would it be like to play in front of 6000 fans? The bigger the

:07:09. > :07:16.crowd, the better. It gives you such a buzz. It really motivates you to

:07:17. > :07:19.put up a good performance. This is one of two a good performance is

:07:20. > :07:23.announced today because it has been announced that English players will

:07:24. > :07:26.be professional now. How much of a difference will that make? It could

:07:27. > :07:32.make a huge difference in terms of having netball to focus on in the

:07:33. > :07:35.run-up to the World Cup. We want to do really well in the World Cup and

:07:36. > :07:39.going full-time, that will give us that edge. It seems that netball,

:07:40. > :07:44.people are taking an interest in it and really enjoying it at the

:07:45. > :07:47.moment. Is that there? I think the media coverage has really gone up.

:07:48. > :07:51.The fact that women's sport is generally on the rise, it has given

:07:52. > :07:55.netball a boost, with the number of people coming to the games and

:07:56. > :07:58.watching it on TV. Hopefully that will continue. What is it about

:07:59. > :08:06.Liverpool that has captured people's attention? -- what is it about

:08:07. > :08:10.netball. The fact that it is a sport is fantastic, providing girls with

:08:11. > :08:14.role models. And it is so fast and physical. People come to the live

:08:15. > :08:17.game and they did not realise how fast it was. It gives you an

:08:18. > :08:22.appreciation of that, better than on TV. The home World Cup in 2019 in

:08:23. > :08:25.Liverpool. That is going to be tough, especially when you consider

:08:26. > :08:30.the dominance of teams like Australia and New Zealand. I think

:08:31. > :08:35.of the league in Australia is so strong that they keep pushing each

:08:36. > :08:38.other to the next level. For us, it is about trying to overtake them and

:08:39. > :08:43.hopefully with a home crowd behind us in Liverpool we can do something

:08:44. > :08:47.special and break the dominance of the top two. With international

:08:48. > :08:52.players going professional, do you see a day when players at club level

:08:53. > :09:03.are able to go full-time? I think that is the aspiration. Events like

:09:04. > :09:07.this show how professional the sport has become and how seriously

:09:08. > :09:12.everyone is taking it. I do so much for joining us. That is all the

:09:13. > :09:16.sport for now. -- thank you so much. And that match will be at the

:09:17. > :09:21.Manchester Arena on Monday. And you both. Thanks for tuning in.

:09:22. > :09:23.The Labour Party is campaigning to stay in the European Union

:09:24. > :09:25.in June's referendum - the majority of the party's

:09:26. > :09:41.Jeremy Corbyn is making his first speech about it. Here he is. Thank

:09:42. > :09:45.you very much. Like Alan, I am delighted to be here in Senate

:09:46. > :09:50.house, this wonderful art deco building. Of course, it is where

:09:51. > :09:59.George Orwell based his novel, 1984, this building was the Ministry of

:10:00. > :10:03.truth. Let us see! Thanks for coming, everyone, today. Thanks to

:10:04. > :10:07.all of those who organise the day's event. Critical events do not happen

:10:08. > :10:11.by accident. The Labour Party did not happen by accident, we are

:10:12. > :10:14.essentially a massive voluntary organisation trying to change the

:10:15. > :10:18.lives of everyone in this country for the better. That is what the

:10:19. > :10:23.Labour Party is about. I thank you all for coming today, and for your

:10:24. > :10:26.work within the party. The people in this country faced a historic

:10:27. > :10:30.decision on the 23rd of June, whether to remain part of the

:10:31. > :10:34.European Union or to leave. I welcome the fact that that decision

:10:35. > :10:37.is now in the hands of the people. Indeed, I voted to support a

:10:38. > :10:42.referendum during the last Parliament. The move to hold this

:10:43. > :10:47.referendum may have been more about managing divisions of the

:10:48. > :10:51.Conservative Party, but it is now a crucial democratic opportunity for

:10:52. > :10:57.people to have their say on our country's future and the future of

:10:58. > :11:01.our continent us all. As Allen explained, the Labour Party is

:11:02. > :11:04.overwhelmingly for staying in, because we believe the European

:11:05. > :11:09.Union has brought investment, jobs and protection for workers,

:11:10. > :11:12.consumers and the environment, and offers the best chance of meeting

:11:13. > :11:19.the challenges that we face in the 21st century. Labour is convinced

:11:20. > :11:23.that the vote to remain in is in the best interests of the people in this

:11:24. > :11:28.country. In the coming century, we face absolutely huge challenges. As

:11:29. > :11:37.a people, as a condiment, and as a global community. How to deal with

:11:38. > :11:41.climate change, how to address the power of global corporations and

:11:42. > :11:46.ensure that they paid their taxes, how to tackle cyber crime and

:11:47. > :11:50.terrorism, how to ensure that we trade fairly and protect jobs and

:11:51. > :11:57.pay in and year of globalisation. How to address the causes of the

:11:58. > :12:02.huge refugee movements across the world. -- in an era. There are now

:12:03. > :12:09.more people than any time in recorded history who are refugees

:12:10. > :12:14.across the planet. And how do we adapt to a world where people

:12:15. > :12:20.everywhere move more frequently to live, work and retire? All of these

:12:21. > :12:25.issues are serious and pressing, and self-evidently require international

:12:26. > :12:28.cooperation. Collective international action through the

:12:29. > :12:32.European Union is clearly going to help meet these vital challenges.

:12:33. > :12:38.Britain will be stronger if we cooperate with our neighbours in

:12:39. > :12:42.facing those challenges together. Portugal's new socialist Prime

:12:43. > :12:50.Minister, a good friend, Antonio Costa, said this. In the face of all

:12:51. > :12:52.these crises around the world, we must not divide Europe, we must

:12:53. > :12:57.strengthen it. When the last referendum was held in 1975, Europe

:12:58. > :13:02.was divided by the Cold War and what later became the EU was much

:13:03. > :13:07.smaller, purely market-driven in nature. Over the years, I and many

:13:08. > :13:13.others have been very critical of many decisions taken by the EU and I

:13:14. > :13:16.remain very critical of its shortcomings. From its lack of

:13:17. > :13:19.democratic accountability, to the institutional pressures to

:13:20. > :13:26.deregulate or privatise public services. So Europe needs to change.

:13:27. > :13:31.But that change can only come from working with our allies in the

:13:32. > :13:34.European Union to achieve it. It is perfect with possible to be critical

:13:35. > :13:40.and still be convinced that we need to remain a member. I have had a few

:13:41. > :13:43.differences with the direction the Labour Party has taken over the past

:13:44. > :13:52.few years, some people may have noticed. But I have been sure that

:13:53. > :13:56.it was right to stay as a member of the party. I joined the Labour Party

:13:57. > :14:00.when I was 16 and I am proud of that. Some might say that I have

:14:01. > :14:03.managed to do something more recently about changing the

:14:04. > :14:07.direction of the Labour Party and I am enjoying that as well. In

:14:08. > :14:14.contrast, four decades ago, the EU of today brought together most of

:14:15. > :14:15.the countries in Europe, and has developed important employment,

:14:16. > :14:22.environmental and consumer protections. I have listened closely

:14:23. > :14:26.to the views of trade Unions, environmental groups, human rights

:14:27. > :14:29.organisations and, of course, the Labour Party members and supporters

:14:30. > :14:35.and fellow members of Parliament. They are overwhelmingly convinced

:14:36. > :14:39.that we can best make a positive difference by remaining in Europe,

:14:40. > :14:44.and Britain needs to stay in the EU as the best framework for trade,

:14:45. > :14:47.manufacturing and cooperation in the 21st century. Tens of billions of

:14:48. > :14:50.pounds worth of investment and millions of jobs are linked to our

:14:51. > :14:55.relationship with the EU. The biggest market in the world. EU

:14:56. > :15:00.membership has guaranteed working people vital employment rights,

:15:01. > :15:03.including four weeks paid holiday, maternity and paternity leave, the

:15:04. > :15:08.protection for agency workers, health and safety in the workplace.

:15:09. > :15:13.Being in the EU has raised our environmental staters from beaches

:15:14. > :15:19.to ear quality, protecting consumers from rip-off charges. But we also

:15:20. > :15:24.need to make the case for reforming Europe. The reform that David

:15:25. > :15:29.Cameron's government has no interest in but plenty of others across

:15:30. > :15:32.Europe do. That means democratic reform, to make the EU more

:15:33. > :15:38.accountable to the people. Economic reform to end self-defeating

:15:39. > :15:39.austerity and put jobs and sustainable growth at the centre of

:15:40. > :15:52.European policy. APPLAUSE.

:15:53. > :15:59.Labour market reform to strengthen and extend the rights of workers in

:16:00. > :16:02.a real social Europe. And new rights for governments and elected

:16:03. > :16:09.authorities to support public enterprise and halt the pressure to

:16:10. > :16:16.privatise services. The case I am making for remaining and reform in

:16:17. > :16:22.Europe, today is the global day of action for fast food workers rights.

:16:23. > :16:29.In the US, workers are demanding $15 per hour, in the UK, ?10, Labour is

:16:30. > :16:32.an internationalist party and socialists have understood from the

:16:33. > :16:38.earliest days of the movement that workers need to make common cause

:16:39. > :16:42.across national borders. Working together in Europe has led to

:16:43. > :16:47.significant gains for workers in Britain and we are determined to

:16:48. > :16:50.deliver further progressive reform. The democratic Europe of social

:16:51. > :16:57.justice and workers rights that people throughout the continent want

:16:58. > :17:00.to see. Real reform will mean making aggressive alliances across Europe,

:17:01. > :17:05.something the Conservatives will never do and probably do not

:17:06. > :17:11.understand. Take, for example, the crisis in the steel industry. It is

:17:12. > :17:14.a global problem and a challenge to many European governments. So why is

:17:15. > :17:22.it that only the British Government has failed so copper survey to act

:17:23. > :17:24.to save steel production at home? The European Commission proposed new

:17:25. > :17:28.tariffs on Chinese steel bodied was the British Government that blocked

:17:29. > :17:37.those coordinated efforts to stop Chinese steel dumping. Those

:17:38. > :17:41.proposals are still on the table. Today, I asked David Cameron and

:17:42. > :17:45.George Osborne to start sticking up for steel in this country and work

:17:46. > :17:49.with our willing European partners to secure the future of this

:17:50. > :17:50.absolutely vital industry. It is in their hands.

:17:51. > :18:02.APPLAUSE. There are certainly problems about

:18:03. > :18:11.EU state aid rules which need reform. But if, as the Leeds side

:18:12. > :18:16.argues, the European Union is a problem, how is it that Germany,

:18:17. > :18:18.Italy, France and Spain have done much better at protecting their

:18:19. > :18:24.steel industry than the British Government? Again, I say to David

:18:25. > :18:30.Cameron and George Osborne, act now to defend and support our steel

:18:31. > :18:34.industry. It is because those other countries who have acted within EU

:18:35. > :18:39.state aid rules to support their industries whether by taking a

:18:40. > :18:43.public stake, investing in research, providing guarantees or compensating

:18:44. > :18:48.for energy costs. It is not the EU that is a problem at the

:18:49. > :18:50.Conservative problem in Britain -- government in Britain that does not

:18:51. > :18:59.recognise the strategic importance of the steel industry. It is

:19:00. > :19:04.important for the economy and jobs and skills of those communities.

:19:05. > :19:08.Communities that are not going through such tension and pressure as

:19:09. > :19:13.they are fearful for the future of their jobs. And all of the local

:19:14. > :19:18.community that goes with them. The Conservative government has blocked

:19:19. > :19:21.action on Chinese steel dumping, it has cut investment in infrastructure

:19:22. > :19:25.that would have created demand for more steel and had no procurement

:19:26. > :19:28.strategy to support our steel industry. A Labour government would

:19:29. > :19:33.have worked very differently with partners across Europe to stand up

:19:34. > :19:37.for steel production in this country. That is what a Labour

:19:38. > :19:44.government would do, so differently to what his government is doing. The

:19:45. > :19:50.European Union has 28 countries and 520 million people. It could have

:19:51. > :19:53.made it stronger by defending the steel industry together, the actions

:19:54. > :19:58.of the Conservative government have weakened us. The jobs created by

:19:59. > :20:03.this government are too often low skill, low pay and insecure. If we

:20:04. > :20:08.harness the potential of Europe, we could be doing far more to defend

:20:09. > :20:11.high skill jobs in the steel industry and that goes for other

:20:12. > :20:17.employers of high skilled staff as well, Airbus, Nissan, they made it

:20:18. > :20:21.clear that the choice to invest in Britain is strengthened by

:20:22. > :20:26.membership of the European Union. Of course, the Conservatives are

:20:27. > :20:29.loyally committed to protecting one very important British industry and

:20:30. > :20:33.you have to take your hat off to them for the massive defence they

:20:34. > :20:34.are making of this one... That is the tax avoidance

:20:35. > :20:48.APPLAUSE. The most telling revelation about

:20:49. > :20:55.our Prime Minister has not been about his own tax affairs but that

:20:56. > :21:00.in 2013, he personally intervened with the European Commission

:21:01. > :21:06.president to undermine an EU drive to reveal the beneficiaries of

:21:07. > :21:13.offshore trusts. And even now, in the wake of the Panama Papers, he

:21:14. > :21:16.still will not act, as Prime Minister 's Question Time revealed

:21:17. > :21:21.yesterday. On six different occasions since the beginning of

:21:22. > :21:24.last year, Conservative members of the European Parliament voted down

:21:25. > :21:27.attempts to take action against tax dodging. Doesn't that tell you

:21:28. > :21:32.everything you need to know about the Conservative Party? Labour has

:21:33. > :21:35.allies across Europe appeared to take on this global network of the

:21:36. > :21:41.corrupt and we will work with them to clamp down on those determined to

:21:42. > :21:47.suck wealth from the economy and the pockets of the people. On Tuesday,

:21:48. > :21:51.the EU announced a step forward on country by country reporting. We

:21:52. > :21:58.believe we can go further but even this modest measure was opposed by

:21:59. > :22:04.Conservative MEPs last December. Left to themselves, it is clear that

:22:05. > :22:07.the main boat leave division is for Britain to be the safe haven of

:22:08. > :22:12.choice for the ill gotten gains of every oligarch dictator or a

:22:13. > :22:17.corporation, they believe this tiny elite is what matters and not the

:22:18. > :22:24.rest of us, who they dismiss as low achievers. I am sorry. Some would

:22:25. > :22:29.argue the need to leave the European Union because the single market

:22:30. > :22:33.rules are driving deregulation and privatisation. They certainly need

:22:34. > :22:36.reform but it is not the European Union that privatised railways, it

:22:37. > :22:41.was the Conservative government of John Major. And many of our railways

:22:42. > :22:44.are run by other nations, publicly owned real companies so they are

:22:45. > :22:48.publicly owned but not by our own public. They have not made the

:22:49. > :22:54.mistake of asset stripping their own companies. Labour is committed to

:22:55. > :22:58.bringing it back into public ownership in 2020 and that is why

:22:59. > :23:03.Labour members of the European Parliament are opposing any element

:23:04. > :23:07.of the Forth rail package being discussed before the European

:23:08. > :23:12.Parliament that might make that more difficult and we are clear, we want

:23:13. > :23:16.railways back on public lands to be run for the benefit of the people of

:23:17. > :23:21.this country. The Transatlantic Trade Investment Partnership is also

:23:22. > :23:26.a huge cause for concern. But we defeated a similar proposal before

:23:27. > :23:32.in Europe when it was called a multilateral agreement on investment

:23:33. > :23:37.back in 1998 and Labour MPs are rightly opposing the investor state

:23:38. > :23:42.dispute mechanism and any attempt to enforce privatisation of public

:23:43. > :23:45.services to reduce consumer rights, workplace protections or

:23:46. > :23:50.environmental standards. We will not be part of a race to the bottom. We

:23:51. > :23:53.want the race to go up and not land on the living standards and

:23:54. > :23:54.environmental standards of everybody across

:23:55. > :24:07.APPLAUSE. -- go down. The free-market

:24:08. > :24:11.enthusiasts in the league campaign would put all of those protections

:24:12. > :24:17.at risk. Labour is building alliances to safeguard them. We must

:24:18. > :24:22.also put human rights at the centre of the trade agreements. Absolutely

:24:23. > :24:29.at the centre. Not as an optional add-on. We already have allies

:24:30. > :24:35.across Europe to do that. And the EU is vital for promoting human rights

:24:36. > :24:39.at home. As a result of European Union directives and regulations,

:24:40. > :24:46.disabled people are protected from discrimination. Lifts, cars and

:24:47. > :24:50.buses must be accessible. Like sea and air travel. It was a Labour

:24:51. > :24:54.government that signed the Human Rights Act into UK law. The

:24:55. > :25:02.transferred power not to Brussels but individual citizens to stand up

:25:03. > :25:05.for and defend their human rights, human rights are global, universal

:25:06. > :25:11.and have to be defended for all time. These are the rights we have

:25:12. > :25:16.achieved for ourselves. Climate change is the greatest threat that

:25:17. > :25:20.humanity faces this century. And no country, Britain certainly not,

:25:21. > :25:25.cannot tackle this alone. We could have the best policies possible but

:25:26. > :25:29.unless we act together internationally, it is worthless. It

:25:30. > :25:33.was a Labour government that brought in the climate change, John Prescott

:25:34. > :25:39.played a key role in getting people took at Kyoto that led to debate

:25:40. > :25:50.within the European Union. But despite David Cameron pledging to

:25:51. > :25:54.lead the greenest government ever... That was the hug a huskie period!

:25:55. > :26:01.Briton still lags behind, we have much to learn from what Germany has

:26:02. > :26:03.done in particular. The Conservative government has cut subsidies for

:26:04. > :26:08.solar power while increasing subsidies for diesel, it has cut

:26:09. > :26:12.regular at your burdens, as they describe them, on fracking get

:26:13. > :26:20.increased regulations on onshore wind production. They say one thing

:26:21. > :26:25.but do another. Again, it has been regulations agreed in Europe that

:26:26. > :26:29.have improved our beaches and waterways and that are forcing us to

:26:30. > :26:35.tackle this candle of air pollution all over this country, including in

:26:36. > :26:41.this very city of London. -- the scandal. If not dealt with, it will

:26:42. > :26:46.kill 500,000 people in this country by 2025, we have to act on air

:26:47. > :26:52.pollution by enforcing those relations. Working together in

:26:53. > :26:59.Europe is vital to tackle climate change and firebug in protecting the

:27:00. > :27:04.environment that we share. -- vital. The point about environmental issues

:27:05. > :27:07.is this... If you pollute the air, the wind takes it across national

:27:08. > :27:13.borders, if you throw rubbish into the sea, the current will bring it

:27:14. > :27:16.to somebody else, but only clean up the air and the seas by

:27:17. > :27:17.international regulation and cooperation, you cannot do it on

:27:18. > :27:33.your There is no doubt that debate about

:27:34. > :27:38.European Union membership will focus strongly on jobs and migration. We

:27:39. > :27:44.live in an increasingly globalised world. Many of us will study, work

:27:45. > :27:52.or even retire abroad. At some point in our lives. Free movement has

:27:53. > :27:54.created opportunities for people. British people and others. There are

:27:55. > :27:59.nearly three quarters of a million British people living in Spain and

:28:00. > :28:05.over 2 million in other parts of Europe. Learning abroad, working

:28:06. > :28:08.abroad, it increases opportunities and skills and migration brings

:28:09. > :28:15.benefits as well as talent race at home. But it is only if there is

:28:16. > :28:19.government action to train enough skilled workers to stop the

:28:20. > :28:24.exploitation of migrant Labour by undercutting wages, to invest in

:28:25. > :28:29.local services and housing in areas of rapid population growth that they

:28:30. > :28:33.will be felt across the country. And this government has done nothing of

:28:34. > :28:37.the sort, its failure to train enough skilled workers means we have

:28:38. > :28:41.become reliant on migration to keep the economy functioning. This is

:28:42. > :28:47.especially true of the National Health Service, which depends on

:28:48. > :28:51.migrant nurses and doctors to fill vacancies. This government has

:28:52. > :28:54.failed to invest in training and its abolition of the bursaries for

:28:55. > :28:57.nurses and the decision to pick a fight with the brilliant junior

:28:58. > :28:58.doctors is likely to make the shortages worse, not

:28:59. > :29:17.As Alan explained in his introduction, both of us are trade

:29:18. > :29:21.unionists and I used to be a full-time trade union organiser

:29:22. > :29:27.within the National Health Service as well as local government. And

:29:28. > :29:32.I've found you our NHS absolutely. -- I value. And I admire the

:29:33. > :29:37.dedication of the staff, it is the proudest creation of the Labour

:29:38. > :29:42.Party and even nine it will be in an even greater crisis if many in the

:29:43. > :29:45.Leave camp have their way, some of whom have argued against the

:29:46. > :29:53.National Health Service and the very principle of health care free at the

:29:54. > :29:55.point of use for everybody. And, of course, it is European Union

:29:56. > :30:01.regulations that underpin many rights of workers, holiday

:30:02. > :30:05.entitlement, a charity leave, White city breaks aren't limits on how

:30:06. > :30:11.many hours we work and that has helped improve protection for agency

:30:12. > :30:16.workers. The Tories and Ukip are on record as saying they would like to

:30:17. > :30:20.cut back on EU guaranteed workplace rights if they could. A Labour

:30:21. > :30:25.government would instead strengthen rights of work, picking common cause

:30:26. > :30:30.with allies to raise employment standards throughout Europe, to stop

:30:31. > :30:34.the undercutting of wages and conditions by unscrupulous employers

:30:35. > :30:40.who want to achieve greater exploitation. We want to strengthen

:30:41. > :30:42.the protection of every worker all over Europe, not just in Britain.

:30:43. > :30:57.Just imagine what the Tories would do to workers' writes here in

:30:58. > :31:03.Britain if we voted to leave the EU in June? They would dump writes on

:31:04. > :31:07.equal pay, working time, annual leave, maternity pay, as far as --

:31:08. > :31:11.as fast as they could get away with it. It would be a bonfire of rights

:31:12. > :31:15.that Labour governments have secured and trade unions have helped to

:31:16. > :31:20.secure this continent. Not only that, it would not be a Labour

:31:21. > :31:24.government negotiating for a better settlement in Europe, it would be a

:31:25. > :31:31.Tory government quite possibly led by Boris Johnson and backed by Nigel

:31:32. > :31:37.Farage. Think about that. That would negotiate the worst of all worlds, a

:31:38. > :31:42.free-market free for all, without rights or protections for people

:31:43. > :31:47.across this continent. It is sometimes easier to blame the EU or,

:31:48. > :31:51.worse, blame foreigners, and face up to our own problems. At the head of

:31:52. > :31:54.which, right now, is a Conservative government that is failing the

:31:55. > :31:59.people of Britain. There is nothing remotely patriotic about selling off

:32:00. > :32:08.our country and our national assets to the highest bidder or handing

:32:09. > :32:12.control to city hedge fund is or corporations based in offshore tax

:32:13. > :32:16.havens. There is a strong socialist case for staying in the European

:32:17. > :32:20.Union, just as there is also a powerful socialist case for reform

:32:21. > :32:24.and progressive change in Europe. That is why we need a Labour

:32:25. > :32:30.government to stand up at the European level for industries and

:32:31. > :32:34.communities in Britain, to back public ownership and public

:32:35. > :32:37.services, to protect and extend workers rights, and to work with our

:32:38. > :32:44.allies to make both Britain and Europe work better for working

:32:45. > :32:47.people. Many people are still weighing up how they will vote in

:32:48. > :32:51.this referendum and I appeal to everyone, especially young people,

:32:52. > :32:54.who will live the longest and have the bigger the consequence is the

:32:55. > :32:59.longest, to make sure you are registered to vote, and vote to keep

:33:00. > :33:04.Britain in Europe this June. It is about your future. By working

:33:05. > :33:08.together across our continent, we can develop our economies, protect

:33:09. > :33:16.social and human rights, tackle climate change and clamp down on tax

:33:17. > :33:19.dodgers. You cannot build a better world unless you engage with the

:33:20. > :33:25.world. Build allies and deliver change. The European Union, many

:33:26. > :33:33.warts and all, has proved itself to be a crucial international calling

:33:34. > :33:36.work -- framework to do that. That is why we are backing the campaign

:33:37. > :33:39.for Britain to remain in Europe and I hope you will, too.

:33:40. > :34:00.APPLAUSE. STUDIO: We are expecting a couple of

:34:01. > :34:06.questions to Jeremy Corbyn from journalists so we will stay with

:34:07. > :34:09.this for a second or two. We have time for some questions. First of

:34:10. > :34:20.all, from Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC. They do very much. Mr Corbyn,

:34:21. > :34:24.let's go for the Ministry of Truth, you have voted against the EU many

:34:25. > :34:32.times. Before today you branded some of its policy is crazy and immoral.

:34:33. > :34:35.Do you now describe yourself as a pro European? And also, you have

:34:36. > :34:38.barely mentioned one of the things that really matters to many of our

:34:39. > :34:42.viewers about the EU, the number of people coming from other countries

:34:43. > :34:46.in the EU to this country. Do you think too many people from other

:34:47. > :34:50.parts of the EU have come to live and work in the UK? I don't think

:34:51. > :34:57.too many have come. I think the issue has to be of wages and

:34:58. > :35:03.regulations, which I included in my speech. And it is employers that try

:35:04. > :35:07.to undercut industrywide agreements, in the construction industry and

:35:08. > :35:11.others, that are the problem, hence the agency workers issued that I

:35:12. > :35:17.raised in my speech, as well as minimum wages. There has to be a

:35:18. > :35:20.case for a minimum wage tied to the cost of living across the continent.

:35:21. > :35:22.There is nothing wrong with people migrating to work around the

:35:23. > :35:28.continent but there has to be a level playing field on pay and

:35:29. > :35:33.conditions. What we have is unscrupulous employers doing that.

:35:34. > :35:36.Yes, I have been critical of many things within the European Union. I

:35:37. > :35:41.think you will probably have gathered from my speech that I have

:35:42. > :35:45.been critical. This is a decision about whether we stay in and argue

:35:46. > :35:49.for the kind of socially just Europe that I want, that our party once,

:35:50. > :35:52.that the vast majority of trade unions and ordinary people in this

:35:53. > :35:58.country want, we walk away from it. That. That is the decision that has

:35:59. > :36:01.been made. Does it mean I recount on everything I have ever said or done?

:36:02. > :36:08.Absolutely not, and I am sorry about that. STUDIO: Let's leave the Jeremy

:36:09. > :36:13.Corbyn and the journalists and the audience. And let's talk to our two

:36:14. > :36:15.undecided voters. Kerry Gadd and Jarel

:36:16. > :36:27.Robinson-Brown. Kerry is undecided but possibly

:36:28. > :36:31.leading towards a vote to exit, and Jarel is tempted to stay. What did

:36:32. > :36:36.you think, Jarel? An interesting speech. I come from a leftist family

:36:37. > :36:42.and we tend to be a bunch of socialist sympathisers. I sympathise

:36:43. > :36:46.with what he is saying, and I was glad to hear him speaking in simple

:36:47. > :36:50.terms. This is a man who is very simple, as a lot of personal

:36:51. > :36:56.integrity, and is full of righteous indignation. He is attractive to

:36:57. > :36:59.many young people who feel the same. I think it was nice to hear him

:37:00. > :37:05.speak about climate as well because I think that is crucial. Do you

:37:06. > :37:11.believe him to humanity has made dozens of hostile comments about the

:37:12. > :37:20.European Union in the past. I think he showed that actually he has truly

:37:21. > :37:27.changed his opinion. We know that. As he sealed the deal for you? Do

:37:28. > :37:31.you vote to remain now? Not yet but I'm closer. What will it take over

:37:32. > :37:37.the next ten weeks? I think I want to hear more detailed breakdowns. He

:37:38. > :37:41.is very good at naming people and situations when he is doing PMQs,

:37:42. > :37:52.but perhaps he could do the same thing and say, Michelle in

:37:53. > :37:55.Birmingham is going to be this much in a worse position because Britain

:37:56. > :38:01.is not part of the EU. I would like to hear more personal perspectives

:38:02. > :38:08.on the figures. Steelworkers, that is important. Interesting. Kerry,

:38:09. > :38:13.what do you think? It was a very interesting speech. You don't have

:38:14. > :38:22.to say that. We brought you here to watch it. I felt that he was trying

:38:23. > :38:28.to demonise the Tories and you get quite a lot in his speech. Does that

:38:29. > :38:37.turn you off? Not really. I do agree with him on many points. Addressing

:38:38. > :38:41.that some of them have been involved in tax dodging and that kind of

:38:42. > :38:48.thing. I feel like everyone should have their share. I paid council tax

:38:49. > :38:55.in where I live, and I pay to stay where I am. Other people, the Tories

:38:56. > :39:00.who are our government, tax dodging, that is slightly unfair. How is that

:39:01. > :39:04.relevance to the European Union? The Conservatives that he mentioned,

:39:05. > :39:11.David Cameron and keep both agree on a vote to stay in the European

:39:12. > :39:18.Union. I think a lot of people want to vote just so that the Tories can

:39:19. > :39:23.save money, so that they can have more for themselves. That is what I

:39:24. > :39:32.believe. Are you closer to making up your mind? I didn't expect to you to

:39:33. > :39:37.be. 20 very much. We will talk again over the next few weeks. Norman

:39:38. > :39:44.Smith was listening to that speech. -- thank you very much. What do you

:39:45. > :39:48.draw from that? Jeremy Corbyn list of the things that he things are

:39:49. > :39:52.good about being part of the European Union, working together to

:39:53. > :39:54.tackle the environment, pushing forward on employment rights,

:39:55. > :39:57.curbing the powers of multinationals. The list of things

:39:58. > :40:02.that are good about it but you got the sense that it was almost the

:40:03. > :40:05.bare minimum. He had to say that. He made no bones about the fact that he

:40:06. > :40:10.has been highly critical and remains critical. He is restated his

:40:11. > :40:15.opposition to this trade deal with the US, TTIP, which he says could

:40:16. > :40:18.lead to a race to the bottom. He answered my colleague's question,

:40:19. > :40:24.saying he did not think there were too many EU migrants. I think Mr

:40:25. > :40:30.Corbyn's difficulty with this is that up till very recently he has

:40:31. > :40:34.been quite openly hostile to much of what the European Union has been

:40:35. > :40:37.about. We are not talking about way back in the midst of time. We are

:40:38. > :40:43.talking about within the last few months. He has been critical of the

:40:44. > :40:51.bailout, saying that it treats grease lightly debtors colony. He

:40:52. > :40:58.said that they should campaign for withdrawal in his campaign. -- it

:40:59. > :41:05.treats grease like a debtors colony. He has a lot to do if he is to

:41:06. > :41:10.generally convince people that he is hugely enthusiastic about staying in

:41:11. > :41:13.the European Union, or whether they are saying it through gritted teeth

:41:14. > :41:18.because the rest of the party is staring down and saying, come on,

:41:19. > :41:21.get on board. My sense today is that this was the first step. People will

:41:22. > :41:26.want to see him coming out again and again and making this case. On that,

:41:27. > :41:29.his aides say that he will not be doing anything else until after the

:41:30. > :41:33.local elections which means that he is only going to be doing pro

:41:34. > :41:37.European campaigning in the last three or four weeks. And a lot of

:41:38. > :41:45.people are saying, come on, get out there now. Thanks, Norman.

:41:46. > :41:54.Next, the Army has described people in Britain as a bunch of time

:41:55. > :41:59.wasters as they begin a recruitment drive for new stories. They found

:42:00. > :42:04.that 80% of 18-35 year olds spend the equivalent of a day each week on

:42:05. > :42:08.social media or gaming. Could young people be persuaded to turn

:42:09. > :42:14.themselves away from that? And instead, joined the reserves? Lets

:42:15. > :42:17.talk to major lettuce and wood, a former officer in the Parachute

:42:18. > :42:24.Regiment. Thank you for talking to us. Why are people not joining the

:42:25. > :42:30.reserves? I think the biggest barrier is that there is a perceived

:42:31. > :42:33.idea that they do not have enough time, that there is not enough time

:42:34. > :42:38.and there is a huge commitment involved. That is not the case. The

:42:39. > :42:42.minimum requirement to join some units in the reserves is just 19

:42:43. > :42:46.days a year. When you add up all those days that people spend on

:42:47. > :42:52.Facebook and social media, in their own words from this study, they are

:42:53. > :42:56.wasting time. Actually, then, the are better ways to spend your time

:42:57. > :43:00.and I could recommend joining the reserves. It is something I did from

:43:01. > :43:13.young age and it has been on afterwards. What do you do in the

:43:14. > :43:18.reserves? My job is buried. -- my job is varied. We train allied

:43:19. > :43:22.soldiers and work with the media. It is a varied role, everything from

:43:23. > :43:26.infantry training to parachuting to mountain climbing. I think the Army

:43:27. > :43:32.reserve offers a varied part-time career that can really can't comment

:43:33. > :43:37.whatever your civilian job is. Is it young people themselves saying that

:43:38. > :43:42.they are wasting time or is it the Army saying they are time wasters?

:43:43. > :43:46.This is from the horses mouth. It is a study conducted that shows that a

:43:47. > :43:51.lot of people admit to wasting time, spending up to two hours a day

:43:52. > :43:54.sitting and watching TV, an hour a day on Facebook, and all of this

:43:55. > :43:58.mounts up to a lot of time that could be spent better. But maybe not

:43:59. > :44:03.in their opinion. Maybe the idea of being on social media is way more

:44:04. > :44:08.attractive than leaping around as an Army reserve 19 days a year. That is

:44:09. > :44:11.not what the study has shown. People have been asked, how would you like

:44:12. > :44:14.to spend your time, what would you like to be doing? Of the study came

:44:15. > :44:18.back with a lot of good feedback saying that people really want to be

:44:19. > :44:23.trying new things, going to new places and making new friends. But

:44:24. > :44:28.actually, what has happened is that people are in their comforts on,

:44:29. > :44:33.going on social media, because it is an easy win. You get the likes on

:44:34. > :44:41.Facebook or Twitter, and before you know it, an hour has disappeared. Do

:44:42. > :44:47.you get paid? Of course you do. It is a job like any other. What is the

:44:48. > :44:52.rate? It depends on your rank. It starts off at ?36, or just over, for

:44:53. > :44:59.a shorter, going up to ?63 for an officer. A day, a week? A day. That

:45:00. > :45:08.could be a good supplement to your income. Banking is a youth worker

:45:09. > :45:12.from Cardiff. -- Danny King. Let's clarify, it is not the Army

:45:13. > :45:15.describing young people as a bunch of time wasters, it is young people

:45:16. > :45:18.that think they do not have time because they are busy on social

:45:19. > :45:23.media and gaming and all the rest of it. I don't think that is

:45:24. > :45:29.necessarily true, Victoria. Lots of young people are just not interested

:45:30. > :45:38.in joining the Army. A lot of people take references from the TV shows,

:45:39. > :45:43.like Knock the cap next week -- Mock the week, and they do not want to be

:45:44. > :45:50.involved in it. Is that your own view? No. I work with drug users and

:45:51. > :45:53.young offenders, people from disadvantaged backgrounds, and they

:45:54. > :45:56.are just not interested. They really just want to be involved in things

:45:57. > :46:01.in their local community and they want to help people. As the major

:46:02. > :46:05.said, they want to be involved and they want to learn new skills and

:46:06. > :46:09.help out but they want to do it within their own community. Rather

:46:10. > :46:13.than doing it for their country? I think the thing is that a lot of

:46:14. > :46:17.disadvantaged areas and areas that are struggling, they really want to

:46:18. > :46:20.just be part of their own community, they want to be involved with what

:46:21. > :46:25.they do on their doorstep and there is not a lot of things that happen

:46:26. > :46:29.across the UK in total which are just local community specific. Young

:46:30. > :46:33.people want to be involved, they want to be doing stuff, but there is

:46:34. > :46:42.not a lot of connection between the two. And so I think that a lot more

:46:43. > :46:45.initiatives need to be aimed specifically at young people,

:46:46. > :46:46.getting them involved in local communities. Thank you very much,

:46:47. > :46:55.Dan. A cat killer in South London appears

:46:56. > :47:02.to be widening the area in which attacks are taking place. Originally

:47:03. > :47:06.described as the Croydon cat ripper, at least 50 deaths can be attributed

:47:07. > :47:10.to the individual. The animals will find with their heads and tails cut

:47:11. > :47:17.off under ?5,000 reward has been put up by the charity Peta to catch the

:47:18. > :47:21.killer. In two months ago we spoke to amber and your child, whose cat

:47:22. > :47:29.was one of those find. On Thursday morning I left Leo I'd, as we do

:47:30. > :47:37.normally, and he never came back. Amber feels devastated by the loss

:47:38. > :47:41.of first son's beloved cat, Leo. He was fined were diluted in a few

:47:42. > :47:47.streets away. He was not one to wonder so I cannot understand... He

:47:48. > :47:54.would not go up to people he did not know so I cannot understand how this

:47:55. > :48:01.person has managed to get him. My mother told me this man was going

:48:02. > :48:07.around, cutting the tales of cats off. I could angry. It was bought

:48:08. > :48:18.for his birthday and he loved that cat, wielded. It was just... He is

:48:19. > :48:27.our little boy, they become part of your family. He was the most

:48:28. > :48:37.important thing I have ever had. I was happy when my mum and dad gave

:48:38. > :48:41.him to me for my birthday. A lot of celebrities have got involved in the

:48:42. > :48:47.campaign, James McVey from The Vamps made this plea on the programme...

:48:48. > :48:54.It is quite horrifying, a pet is a member of the family and I think

:48:55. > :48:56.that it is bad enough losing a cat to accidental circumstances but to

:48:57. > :49:01.find somebody is doing this is horrible. What we're trying to do in

:49:02. > :49:06.The Vamps is raise as much awareness possible to catch the killer. It is

:49:07. > :49:11.rarely upsetting for the family so we are trying to offer to everyone

:49:12. > :49:19.or any group that can help us find the killer. Tony Jenkins is from

:49:20. > :49:28.South Norwood animal rescue and Chief Inspector Mike Butcher from

:49:29. > :49:35.the RSPCA. Saria, your cat was found killed. Tell us what happened. He

:49:36. > :49:43.comes on every morning at 7am and at 7pm, to comfort his dry food which

:49:44. > :49:50.my son dishes out for him. He comes in and out of the cat flap

:49:51. > :49:54.regularly, he is extremely friendly, you just call him and he will come

:49:55. > :50:00.to you. On Thursday he did not his breakfast his dinner and on Friday

:50:01. > :50:04.morning by sunset, should have put out leaflets on the street and I

:50:05. > :50:10.said, go for it, we put leaflets on the street. Asking if anybody has

:50:11. > :50:18.seen him. By 6pm we have not heard anything. My son was not at home, my

:50:19. > :50:23.husband opened the door. The next-door neighbour had

:50:24. > :50:28.unfortunately seen the body of a cat in the bushes two doors away from

:50:29. > :50:33.her that looks like our cat, I husband took photographs of the body

:50:34. > :50:39.and my son came home, he went and collected the body and we did

:50:40. > :50:49.recognise the body was that of Buddy. The body was mutilated, the

:50:50. > :50:56.tail was missing, somebody has wrapped the body and plastic. He was

:50:57. > :51:00.just in bits. It was like a horror movie, it did not feel real. We

:51:01. > :51:12.heard from one of the neighbours who owns a pet shop nearby who said...

:51:13. > :51:16.Please give them a touch... Contact them on Facebook and these people

:51:17. > :51:22.will helped us, they collected the body of Buddy and they said they

:51:23. > :51:26.would pass it to the RSPCA for identification and I have been in

:51:27. > :51:30.touch ever since and they have been ever so comforting, they have been

:51:31. > :51:36.so supportive and they understand that Buddy was not just an animal,

:51:37. > :51:43.he was our baby and he meant everything to my son. Me also. Mike

:51:44. > :51:50.Butcher from the RSPCA, thank you for talking to us. Tell us how this

:51:51. > :51:54.investigation is progressing. Good morning, we're working very closely

:51:55. > :51:59.with the police and it is not an easy investigation because we have

:52:00. > :52:06.to decide which cuts find are part of the investigation and it is

:52:07. > :52:11.awkward but it is horrific and we all have to take notice that the

:52:12. > :52:15.loss of animal to a family, we need to catch this person as quickly as

:52:16. > :52:20.possible. Are you nearer to doing that? Not really, but like anything

:52:21. > :52:27.else, we're looking at all avenues and this is not one with somebody

:52:28. > :52:33.doing it and you investigate, you have a starting point, the problem

:52:34. > :52:42.here, isn't widespread or the same person? Is a copycat? And we have to

:52:43. > :52:50.introduce when the pattern is. How many are you linking in terms of the

:52:51. > :52:55.cases? We have had 20 exam and by a veterinary surgeon who has confirmed

:52:56. > :53:03.that the animals have been mutilated by a human, --, by a sharp

:53:04. > :53:07.implement, we were not sure of that before so that is a common factor,

:53:08. > :53:15.it is not another animal, it is somebody going out with a knife

:53:16. > :53:19.cutting up animals. At one stage, whether that is the cause of death,

:53:20. > :53:28.this person does need to be caught. Tony Jenkins from SNARL, you think

:53:29. > :53:34.this is wider than Croydon and to describe this individual as the

:53:35. > :53:40.Croydon cat killer is inaccurate? We have discovered bodies in North

:53:41. > :53:45.London, there was a cat killed in archway. We do not know until the

:53:46. > :53:56.bodies were examined but we have confirmed cases and all around the

:53:57. > :53:58.M25 area. Calling at the Croydon cat killer, that gives people the

:53:59. > :54:05.indication that outside Croydon they are safe. Most cats are safe, what

:54:06. > :54:11.is the advice? The most obvious, keep your cat indoors and if you

:54:12. > :54:15.have to let cats out, it must be under supervision. Most of the

:54:16. > :54:20.attacks or night but we have had some abductions and murders were

:54:21. > :54:26.cats have gone missing during the day so it is, keep your cat indoors.

:54:27. > :54:33.It could be one person or it could be somebody mimicking what has gone

:54:34. > :54:40.on? It is possible. You would have to be sick to do this in the first

:54:41. > :54:45.place but to copy somebody else? 19 bodies have been confirmed by the

:54:46. > :54:52.RSPCA, the pattern is that it is the same person. It could be all over

:54:53. > :54:58.the place but we need to examine the bodies, 19 cases confirmed, six of

:54:59. > :55:02.them are with the vet, and there are 12 bodies waiting to be excitement

:55:03. > :55:07.so we're already entered 37 and we have as many as 50 other cases that

:55:08. > :55:16.might be linked. From recently? The last two years. Mutilated these

:55:17. > :55:22.going back two years? Yes, some are just photographs of bodies that were

:55:23. > :55:26.buried but we have first hand information and photographs from the

:55:27. > :55:34.person who find the cat and it is similar pattern, there was no no

:55:35. > :55:40.head or tail. Often left on the doorstep of a person who owns the

:55:41. > :55:43.animal. Have you any theories? There is a psychopath or if you

:55:44. > :55:49.psychopaths out there who enjoy killing and mutilating cats. How do

:55:50. > :55:58.you go about trying to track down this person or people? It is a very

:55:59. > :56:04.awkward one because we have to first of all look at the animals, decide

:56:05. > :56:10.which ones are part of the pattern. Amongst the animals, some will be

:56:11. > :56:17.genuinely hit by cars or attacked by foxes, we have to differentiate

:56:18. > :56:25.between those. That is the difficult part. And a lot of it is the public,

:56:26. > :56:31.I have listened to Tony and I would agree. It is a night-time thing. It

:56:32. > :56:36.is keeping the public vigilant and reporting anything suspicious? It

:56:37. > :56:40.has to be a man or somebody out there with a very sharp knife and I

:56:41. > :56:45.would not suggest that anybody close to anybody is doing that but I would

:56:46. > :56:51.say that CCTV, people could keep an eye open, and that will eventually

:56:52. > :56:56.lead us to somebody but then it is deciding which ones were a victim of

:56:57. > :57:04.him or her, or them. Such an open investigation. We're not looking at

:57:05. > :57:09.just Croydon, but far wider. Thank you all very much for coming onto

:57:10. > :57:12.the programme and good luck. Just an update on another story were

:57:13. > :57:18.following, two migrants have been rescued from it any of the coast of

:57:19. > :57:21.Dover. It is ascribed as an inflatable boat off the coast of

:57:22. > :57:28.Dover after being at sea for eight hours. We can show you the dinghy,

:57:29. > :57:33.two men believed to be Iranian filed 999 in the early hours, they did not

:57:34. > :57:36.know the exact position, the lifeboat picked them up one mile

:57:37. > :57:40.from shore after passing very spotted the light from their mobile

:57:41. > :57:46.phone. They have been rescued. Also, we have furthered the Royal bag of

:57:47. > :57:50.Scotland is to cut 600 jobs in its retail division and it is closing 32

:57:51. > :57:59.branches. That is according to the trade union, Unite. Thank you for

:58:00. > :58:03.your messages. Most of them about fertility and if it is right to talk

:58:04. > :58:09.to young boys and girls about how delaying parenthood might lead to

:58:10. > :58:13.fertility problems later on. An e-mail, totally agree, young women

:58:14. > :58:18.need to be told about the problems of fertility in later life but not

:58:19. > :58:24.at 15, 21 sounds like a good age. Thank you for watching. We're back

:58:25. > :58:27.tomorrow. BBC News from live is next. Have a good day! -- newsroom

:58:28. > :58:30.live.