19/04/2016

:00:21. > :00:22.Hello, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme.

:00:23. > :00:24.Michael Gove - one of the most senior politicians

:00:25. > :00:27.campaigning to leave the EU - accuses Vote Remain of treating

:00:28. > :00:29.voters like children who can be "frightened into obedience".

:00:30. > :00:32.Are girls being sexually harassed at school?

:00:33. > :00:34.Concern about growing sexualised behaviour amongst pupils has

:00:35. > :00:38.We'll be discussing the scale of the problem.

:00:39. > :00:44.And the extraordinary story of how a woman with 41 brothers and sisters

:00:45. > :00:49.escaped her abusive life in a polygamous sect in Mexico.

:00:50. > :01:01.I am my mother's fourth child and my father's 39. He had 42 kids, just a

:01:02. > :01:02.few months apart. I grew up in a colony in a polygamist town in

:01:03. > :01:09.northern Mexico. Hello, welcome to the programme,

:01:10. > :01:13.we're live until 11am this morning. A powerful account of how

:01:14. > :01:20.one young woman coped with the shock of losing her hair

:01:21. > :01:22.because of alopecia. We'll hear from her a little later,

:01:23. > :01:26.but do get in touch if you have We'd also like to hear

:01:27. > :01:31.from you if your child missed out on your first choice

:01:32. > :01:32.of primary school. If you text, you will be charged

:01:33. > :01:36.at the standard network rate. And don't forget if you've

:01:37. > :01:39.got a story you think we should be covering,

:01:40. > :01:41.do send it to us. Some of our best stories come

:01:42. > :01:47.from you, our viewers. The Justice Secretary, Michael Gove,

:01:48. > :01:51.the Cabinet's leading campaigner for Britain to leave

:01:52. > :01:53.the European Union, is accusing the Vote Remain side of patronising

:01:54. > :01:56.voters with their arguments. Yesterday a report by the Treasury

:01:57. > :01:58.claimed that leaving the EU would cost every UK household

:01:59. > :02:04.?4300 a year by 2030. Mr Gove will say in a speech this

:02:05. > :02:09.morning that they are treating people like "children, capable

:02:10. > :02:13.of being frightened into obedience". With us now is our Political

:02:14. > :02:21.Guru, Norman Smith. Tell us more about what he is

:02:22. > :02:27.saying. It is all kicking off, yesterday we

:02:28. > :02:31.had George Osborne setting out his big case about why we should stay in

:02:32. > :02:35.the EU. Today it is his close friend, Michael Gove, setting out

:02:36. > :02:38.exactly the opposite case of why we should get out. Yesterday the

:02:39. > :02:44.Chancellor warning about the risks to our wallet, to the economy, if we

:02:45. > :02:49.left. Today Michael Gove saying, no, no, the real risk is staying in,

:02:50. > :02:53.because if we stay in, he says, EU countries will basically think, that

:02:54. > :02:58.is it, we can do what we want with Britain, take more power, more money

:02:59. > :03:02.from them. But what I find striking about Mr Gove's speech is some of

:03:03. > :03:08.the language he is using. Michael Gove is one of the more, shall we

:03:09. > :03:13.say, polite members of the cabinet, you doesn't really get involved in

:03:14. > :03:16.the argy-bargy rough-and-tumble. Today he accuses David Cameron and

:03:17. > :03:21.George Osborne of treating the electorate like children, trying to

:03:22. > :03:27.frighten them into a obedience by conjuring up bogeyman. He will say

:03:28. > :03:31.they want people to think Britain is beaten and broken, and he

:03:32. > :03:36.specifically attacks them over immigration, because he says in

:03:37. > :03:39.yesterday's Treasury report Mr Osborne, in effect, conceded the

:03:40. > :03:43.Government had failed and would continue to fail over immigration,

:03:44. > :03:46.that it would keep going up by hundreds and thousands every year

:03:47. > :03:49.despite the Government's promise to get it down to the tens of

:03:50. > :03:55.thousands. He was on the wireless this morning as well as the boot boy

:03:56. > :03:58.stuff, he was trying to put on a more positive image about what

:03:59. > :04:02.Brexit could mean. We would have a relationship of free

:04:03. > :04:06.trade and friendly cooperation, we would be able to demonstrate that

:04:07. > :04:10.democratic self-government, the model of Government we have that in

:04:11. > :04:13.the past, like countries like Australia and Canada used to their

:04:14. > :04:17.advantage, can be deployed by us to spend money on our authorities and

:04:18. > :04:21.in order to negotiate new trade deals with other countries.

:04:22. > :04:28.What we won't get today, which we got yesterday, is any sort of

:04:29. > :04:33.dossier or document spelling out the details of what Brexit would

:04:34. > :04:41.actually mean. Yesterday we had Mr Osborne's Magnum Opus, that 200 page

:04:42. > :04:44.what of analysis, equations. The League sides said they will not

:04:45. > :04:48.produce one because they do not have the people to do that sort of thing

:04:49. > :04:52.and they are not sure how worthwhile it is, but expect them to come under

:04:53. > :04:55.pressure today to spell out in a lot more detail what Brexit will

:04:56. > :04:59.actually mean. You talk about the argy-bargy

:05:00. > :05:03.rough-and-tumble of the campaign, is it starting to look like civil War

:05:04. > :05:11.in the Tory party? I think it is, yes. I'm here today,

:05:12. > :05:17.Cabinet going on behind me, I wonder what is going on in the Cabinet

:05:18. > :05:21.room, you can imagine them sitting around the table, maybe kicking each

:05:22. > :05:25.other under the table, flicking pellets at each other! What is the

:05:26. > :05:32.mood like in the Cabinet? Arrival charge and countercharge, it is

:05:33. > :05:35.spreading beyond Europe -- the rightful charge. Michael Gove was

:05:36. > :05:39.attacking immigration, yesterday pretty but tell at acting the

:05:40. > :05:42.Government over its education policy, the day before that the

:05:43. > :05:45.culture Secretary John Whittingdale attacking the Government over the

:05:46. > :05:50.national living wage, then remember Iain Duncan Smith. It is spreading

:05:51. > :05:54.and deepening the conflict within the Tory party, and you are left

:05:55. > :05:58.wondering how on earth do they put the party back together once this

:05:59. > :06:06.referendum is over? Thank you, Norman.

:06:07. > :06:09.Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom.

:06:10. > :06:12.Reports from Afghanistan suggest more than 20 people have been killed

:06:13. > :06:15.and more than 200 wounded in a suicide attack

:06:16. > :06:24.The bombing happened in a residential neighbourhood close

:06:25. > :06:27.to the Ministry of Defence and intelligence service offices

:06:28. > :06:30.The Taliban has claimed responsibility, a week after it said

:06:31. > :06:34.it was launching a 'spring offensive'.

:06:35. > :06:37.413 people are now known to have died in Ecuador's worst

:06:38. > :06:41.But, two days on, emergency workers are still attempting

:06:42. > :06:45.to locate survivors, with some success stories.

:06:46. > :06:48.This man was working in a hotel when it collapsed.

:06:49. > :06:51.Firefighters said they discovered the bodies of seven other

:06:52. > :06:53.people at the site before finding him alive.

:06:54. > :06:55.But despite some positive moments, people in the hardest hit

:06:56. > :06:57.towns are now beginning to bury their dead.

:06:58. > :07:04.Our correspondent Katy Watson has travelled to the disaster zone.

:07:05. > :07:07.While many families are still searching for loved ones,

:07:08. > :07:09.others are already having to bury theirs.

:07:10. > :07:13.Three members of the same family were killed in

:07:14. > :07:18.While the family grieved, the community of El Carmen

:07:19. > :07:24.Football fanatic Joselo was the fourth victim.

:07:25. > :07:26.His pallbearers wearing his football strip in honour of

:07:27. > :07:31.A few hundred metres down the road we find his house,

:07:32. > :07:42.He was trying to get his car out when the roof collapsed on him.

:07:43. > :07:44.It was a three-storey building, now it's just rubble.

:07:45. > :07:46.There are no survivors, just a clean-up operation.

:07:47. > :07:48.Neighbours have returned to sort through their belongings,

:07:49. > :07:54.TRANSLATION: Luckily we were not in the apartment,

:07:55. > :08:03.Down the road, we see several other collapsed buildings,

:08:04. > :08:09.Most of those who were killed lived near coastal towns.

:08:10. > :08:12.Among the dead, Sister Claire Theresa Crockett,

:08:13. > :08:18.She was killed with five others when a stairwell collapsed

:08:19. > :08:22.Rescue workers told me this town is more than 80% flattened,

:08:23. > :08:25.and the death toll will be far higher than what authorities

:08:26. > :08:29.Time is running out for those still trapped.

:08:30. > :08:48.Cancer researchers say a fifth of people diagnosed

:08:49. > :08:51.with advanced melanoma who were treated with a combination

:08:52. > :08:53.of two immunotherapy drugs in a trial survived

:08:54. > :08:56.British doctors leading the trial said the results were

:08:57. > :09:00.The scale of sexual violence and intimidation in schools is to be

:09:01. > :09:03.The Women and Equalities Committee commissioned research

:09:04. > :09:06.before the investigation, which suggested that many

:09:07. > :09:08.assaults went unreported, and sex education was failing

:09:09. > :09:11.to tackle a culture in which boys felt entitled to inappropriate

:09:12. > :09:22.The research that we have done would suggest that six-year-old

:09:23. > :09:26.harassment, even six-year-old assaults, are pretty commonplace,

:09:27. > :09:30.but we don't have a real insight into the scale of this problem. We

:09:31. > :09:35.want to encourage young people, teachers, anybody who has an

:09:36. > :09:40.interest in this, to come forward and give evidence as part of our

:09:41. > :09:44.inquiry -- sexual harassment and sexual assaults.

:09:45. > :09:47.And coming up on the programme, we'll be discussing this and talking

:09:48. > :09:50.to a woman who was sexually assaulted at school when she was 15.

:09:51. > :09:52.Survivors of a boat carrying migrants which capsized

:09:53. > :09:55.in the Mediterranean Sea have told the BBC that up to 500

:09:56. > :09:57.people drowned, although there is no official confirmation.

:09:58. > :10:00.The group said they were travelling from Libya to Italy,

:10:01. > :10:02.and joined a larger boat already packed with

:10:03. > :10:06.Numbers of migrants making the dangerous sea crossing

:10:07. > :10:12.New research suggests that dinosaur numbers may already

:10:13. > :10:15.have been in decline 50 million years before an asteroid

:10:16. > :10:18.That's the finding of a study by researchers at Reading

:10:19. > :10:22.The new analysis challenges the current view that dinosaurs had

:10:23. > :10:24.been flourishing right up until the asteroid hit the Earth

:10:25. > :10:32.Our science correspondent Pallab Ghosh has more.

:10:33. > :10:42.They dominated the earth for 165 million years.

:10:43. > :10:56.A giant asteroid sent up clouds of dust that blotted out the sun.

:10:57. > :11:03.The mighty creatures that had once reigned supreme were wiped out.

:11:04. > :11:06.The fantastic vertebral column shows you the sort of size

:11:07. > :11:12.Now a new study of their fossil remains shows that dinosaurs

:11:13. > :11:17.were dying out 50 million years before the asteroid struck.

:11:18. > :11:21.We found, in fact, unexpectedly, that many dinosaur groups

:11:22. > :11:25.were declining to a certain extent towards the end,

:11:26. > :11:28.so not that this decline caused the final extinction,

:11:29. > :11:32.that still was the asteroid impact, but a fair number of groups

:11:33. > :11:35.of dinosaurs had lost their evolutionary vim.

:11:36. > :11:37.Up until now, many scientists believed that dinosaurs

:11:38. > :11:40.were still going strong right up to the moment that the asteroid

:11:41. > :11:46.But the new research indicates that they were actually in decline,

:11:47. > :11:49.because they simply couldn't cope with the way that the

:11:50. > :11:57.There are lots of things going on in the world prior

:11:58. > :11:59.to the asteroid hitting, including changes in sea level,

:12:00. > :12:01.for example, changes in the amount of land area,

:12:02. > :12:04.changes in the plants that are living on the land,

:12:05. > :12:07.So lots of different environmental variables that might have been

:12:08. > :12:10.affecting the success of dinosaurs long before the catastrophe that

:12:11. > :12:18.Many wonder whether humans would exist at all were it not

:12:19. > :12:23.for the chance impact of an asteroid 66 million years ago.

:12:24. > :12:28.But the new study suggests that dinosaurs may have been on their way

:12:29. > :12:32.out and our very early evolutionary ancestors could well have

:12:33. > :12:35.established a foothold even if the asteroid had never hit.

:12:36. > :12:47.A replica of an ancient arch destroyed by the so-called

:12:48. > :12:50.Islamic State group in the Syrian city of Palmyra will be unveiled

:12:51. > :12:56.The copy of the 2000-year-old Arch of Triumph has been built using 3D

:12:57. > :13:00.printing techniques, and marble donated by the Egyptian government.

:13:01. > :13:02.He's normally a critics' favourite, but Hollywood actor Johnny Depp has

:13:03. > :13:04.been panned by Australia's deputy prime minister for his

:13:05. > :13:12.Depp made the video with his partner, Amber Heard,

:13:13. > :13:14.after she was convicted of bringing their two pet dogs

:13:15. > :13:18.Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, who last year threatened

:13:19. > :13:21.to have the dogs put down if they were not taken back

:13:22. > :13:23.to America, described the apology as "atrocious" and said Depp

:13:24. > :13:29.was unlikely to win an Oscar for his performance.

:13:30. > :13:33.A duck which lost both feet to frostbite has been fitted

:13:34. > :13:36.with a new pair made on a 3D printer.

:13:37. > :13:42.Philip the duck was rescued in the US state of Wisconsin,

:13:43. > :13:47.He was going to be put down until a high school technology

:13:48. > :13:49.teacher agreed to try making a new pair with his class.

:13:50. > :13:51.Philip is now practising walking on his new limbs

:13:52. > :13:59.Doing a pretty good job of it, I think!

:14:00. > :14:01.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:14:02. > :14:03.In a moment we'll be discussing sexual harassment

:14:04. > :14:12.We would love to hear your thoughts on this.

:14:13. > :14:15.We'd also love to hear from you if you've suffered from alopecia,

:14:16. > :14:18.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:14:19. > :14:24.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:14:25. > :14:27.Will Perry has the sport now and Tottenham keep the pressure

:14:28. > :14:33.on Leicester at the top of the Premier League.

:14:34. > :14:36."Leicester City, we're coming for you" - that was the song

:14:37. > :14:38.from the Tottenham fans at the Britannia Stadium last night

:14:39. > :14:41.as Spurs came away 4-0 winners over Stoke to close the gap

:14:42. > :14:45.on Claudio Ranieri's side at the top of the Premier League to five points

:14:46. > :14:49.This curling finish from Harry Kane, his 23rd League goal of the season,

:14:50. > :14:55.Dele Alli doubled the lead before he hit a post

:14:56. > :15:01.Kane then rolled in the third before Alli's volley wrapped up Tottenham's

:15:02. > :15:04.ninth away league win of the season and three points which has them

:15:05. > :15:20.Leicester had a tough game yesterday, dropped a couple of

:15:21. > :15:26.points, we were ready to put the pressure on. I do think there is

:15:27. > :15:29.much point being involved if you are not ready to do it. Leicester are in

:15:30. > :15:33.the driving seat, still five points ahead, but four games left so we

:15:34. > :15:38.have closed the gap, that is all we could have done tonight.

:15:39. > :15:42.Leicester may be without their top scorer Jamie Vardy

:15:43. > :15:48.for potentially two of their four games in the title run-in.

:15:49. > :15:51.Vardy, who's scored 22 goals this season, could well see his initial

:15:52. > :15:54.one game ban for a red card extended after being charged

:15:55. > :15:57.Vardy remonstrated with referee Jon Moss after he was dismissed

:15:58. > :16:00.with two yellows in Sunday's draw with West Ham.

:16:01. > :16:03.The troubles continue to mount up for already-relegated Aston Villa.

:16:04. > :16:05.Just days after they went down to the Championship, two members

:16:06. > :16:08.of the board set up to turn the club around have walked out.

:16:09. > :16:11.Former FA Chairman David Bernstein and the ex-Governor of the Bank

:16:12. > :16:14.of England Lord King have reportedly clashed with owner Randy Lerner.

:16:15. > :16:16.Newcastle are doing their best to avoid joining Villa

:16:17. > :16:20.They won 3-0 at home to Swansea on Saturday,

:16:21. > :16:23.but they're still three points from safety and face an in-form

:16:24. > :16:38.We cannot control the other teams, we have to control what we can, our

:16:39. > :16:43.team, the mentality, the focus, the fans, the staff, everyone here, so

:16:44. > :16:44.we have to stick together, work hard, try to get three points in

:16:45. > :16:47.this game. All the build up and full

:16:48. > :16:49.commentary from St James' Park And finally, with the

:16:50. > :17:00.Formula E Championship - for electric cars coming

:17:01. > :17:02.to Paris this weekend, to publicise it, renowned stuntman,

:17:03. > :17:06.free-runner and gymnast, Damien Walters, became the first

:17:07. > :17:09.person to carry out a blind car-dodge over an approaching

:17:10. > :17:12.Formula E Car travelling at 60mph. Look at this, with his back

:17:13. > :17:15.to the car, he flips over it Walters has worked as a stunt double

:17:16. > :17:32.for the likes of Daniel Craig We have the car heading down to

:17:33. > :17:36.London for you to try it out. I cannot think why he thought that he

:17:37. > :17:40.would do that! It is astonishing. Ridiculous. Hats off to Damien!

:17:41. > :17:45.Yeah, it is impressive. Don't try it at home.

:17:46. > :17:48.The idea that girls are suffering from sexual harassment -

:17:49. > :17:50.and even sexual violence - at school will shock most parents.

:17:51. > :17:53.We assume schools provide a safe environment for all pupils,

:17:54. > :17:56.but concern that this is not always the case has prompted MPs to launch

:17:57. > :18:00.They are worried about increasing levels of sexualised behaviour

:18:01. > :18:02.and believe schools may not be taking the problem seriously enough.

:18:03. > :18:07.We can speak now to Shannon Rooney, who was sexually attacked at school

:18:08. > :18:13.when she was 15, that was four years ago.

:18:14. > :18:15.Let's also bring in the Children's Commissioner for England,

:18:16. > :18:22.Anne Longfield, as well as Vicky Jenkinson, who acts as an advocate

:18:23. > :18:24.for Girl Guiding, and Kiri Tunks, a secondary school

:18:25. > :18:33.Ann, is this something you have been concerned about, the sexualisation

:18:34. > :18:37.of schoolchildren? Young people have been telling me their concerns

:18:38. > :18:41.around sexual relationships, relationships more Jenny, and their

:18:42. > :18:46.ability to manage those. What sort of concerns? They're concerned about

:18:47. > :18:55.relationships that they feel are out of control. There is notes in the

:18:56. > :18:58.report about a laddism culture and that's something that comes through

:18:59. > :19:02.from some young people. When there are difficulties, children have been

:19:03. > :19:07.abused or exploited, often say that they don't feel they were prepared

:19:08. > :19:10.for understanding those relationships, consent a big issue

:19:11. > :19:15.for them and they don't feel that they have the guidance often to be

:19:16. > :19:21.able to make those decisions. Now, often that will have come from a

:19:22. > :19:26.whole range of children, different situations, but the thing they have

:19:27. > :19:29.in common, they get a lot of their information online and that's

:19:30. > :19:33.confusing and some downright dangerous as well. So lots to pick

:19:34. > :19:38.through there. When you say downright dangerous, what are you

:19:39. > :19:41.referring to? The children who are finding themselves falling over

:19:42. > :19:46.pornography without looking for it. Some of that will will be upsetting

:19:47. > :19:52.and dangerous as it can lead to... There is a lot of talk about how

:19:53. > :19:56.much kids are looking at porn. I have got research coming out soon,

:19:57. > :20:02.so I'll know more in a little while, but it seems to be, at the age of

:20:03. > :20:07.11, that actually, a good number, especially of boys, are seeing

:20:08. > :20:11.pornography. Boys and girls? Especially boys. How is that

:20:12. > :20:16.impacting on behaviour? You have a range of influences which are seen

:20:17. > :20:20.as the norm and what we hear young people talking about and indeed in

:20:21. > :20:26.this report from conversations with young people, are that the norms

:20:27. > :20:31.seem to be all over the place. You have especially boys, who feel they

:20:32. > :20:36.have an entitlement to girls bodies and relationships. You have a

:20:37. > :20:41.stereotype of girls which isn't in anyway the reality that most girls

:20:42. > :20:46.live in and an experience of relationships which is very fast and

:20:47. > :20:51.indeed the children call it random. What's that random? They are saying,

:20:52. > :20:55.it is not a relationship built out of knowing someone for sometime and

:20:56. > :20:59.getting to know them and having a relationship, it is random in that

:21:00. > :21:03.it is quick, it is easily available and it is easily disposable with

:21:04. > :21:11.that. Does this all sound familiar to you as a teacher? Is this on your

:21:12. > :21:14.radar? There is a culture which Ann describes and I don't think it is in

:21:15. > :21:19.schools, I think it is in society and certainly, there is a culture in

:21:20. > :21:22.which girls, I think, are under pressure, they will talk about being

:21:23. > :21:26.judged all the time and they have to always be behaving in a certain way,

:21:27. > :21:29.conforming to a certain stereotype and I think a lot of the abuse they

:21:30. > :21:34.suffer, they don't report, they just put up because they think it is part

:21:35. > :21:37.of what it means to be a girl or a woman which I think is really

:21:38. > :21:44.troubling. How would a school handle it, you

:21:45. > :21:48.know, if, is there an awareness in your school that kids are looking at

:21:49. > :21:53.porn and what should the school be doing? There is an awareness. A lot

:21:54. > :21:57.of this stuff does go under the radar because it happens in social

:21:58. > :22:00.groups and corridors and playgrounds, if the school becomes

:22:01. > :22:03.aware of it, in my experience, there is action taken and I have had

:22:04. > :22:05.experience of the school dealing with these things properly. I know

:22:06. > :22:09.that isn't necessarily the case all the time. In terms of what the

:22:10. > :22:13.school should be doing, I think it needs to be tackling that culture

:22:14. > :22:17.because those individual assaults, those stories you hear, they are

:22:18. > :22:21.worrying and they are really problematic, but we are ignoring the

:22:22. > :22:26.day-to-day general sexual harassment of young people in school. Do you

:22:27. > :22:32.see a difference in the demeanour of kids these days compared with

:22:33. > :22:35.previous generations? I mean, I think, we've lived for a long time

:22:36. > :22:39.within stereotypes about what it means to be a boy and a girl. I

:22:40. > :22:43.don't think that's changed, but I do think social media played an impact

:22:44. > :22:47.in terms of kind of making it all this stuff more available much

:22:48. > :22:50.quicker. I think boys are trapped as well by these stereotypes and I

:22:51. > :22:55.think that's something schools should be doing something to tackle

:22:56. > :22:58.just this whole notion of there is one way to be a girl, a boy and

:22:59. > :23:02.there is one normal relationship, I think we have to open the discussion

:23:03. > :23:08.out to all kinds of relationships, you know and I know a lot of young

:23:09. > :23:11.LGBT people feel unable to talk about their feelings and their

:23:12. > :23:16.experiences and that's worrying. Vicky, you work as an advocate for

:23:17. > :23:19.girl guiding. Is this something you're coming up against?

:23:20. > :23:26.Absolutely, it is a concern that's been raised by a lot of our young

:23:27. > :23:30.members. Recently, from a survey we have come up with a lot of

:23:31. > :23:35.statistics that are horrifying. Give me some examples. Well, girls are

:23:36. > :23:41.definitely embarrassed by situations they find themselves in at school.

:23:42. > :23:49.And... What sort of situations? There is situations such as well,

:23:50. > :23:58.defining sexual harassment is a really key issue and it is anything

:23:59. > :24:04.from jokes about body image of girls and boys from inappropriate, jokes

:24:05. > :24:08.to inap appropriate touching. There is a wide spectrum. It needs to be

:24:09. > :24:12.clearly denined so people know when to stop. Let's bring in Shannon.

:24:13. > :24:18.Shannon, you were sexually attacked at school when you were 15, that was

:24:19. > :24:23.four years ago. I mean, it is a particularly extreme thing that

:24:24. > :24:28.happened to you, but tell us what it was that happened and how you felt,

:24:29. > :24:31.not just about the fact that it had happened at all, but that it

:24:32. > :24:39.happened in school where, you know, kids should be safe and protected?

:24:40. > :24:44.Well, what happened when I was in school, I just a run down version

:24:45. > :24:49.was I got pulled into a cupboard and sexually assaulted. I don't want to

:24:50. > :24:52.go into too much detail about it. But it was an extremely bad

:24:53. > :24:58.experience. I didn't get the right support for it and the school didn't

:24:59. > :25:02.know how to deal with it. You don't expect to be violated like that in

:25:03. > :25:06.school so it was an extremely traumatic experience. Part of the

:25:07. > :25:12.conversation today arising from the fact that MPs are looking into the

:25:13. > :25:18.culture and sexualisation of children is this sense that boys

:25:19. > :25:23.feel an entitlement to inappropriate behaviour with girls. More broadly,

:25:24. > :25:33.is that something that you had seen and experienced? After I had talked

:25:34. > :25:37.about it, I had found out that it wasn't just myself that had it

:25:38. > :25:41.happened to in school. So I guess that is more of an issue with guys

:25:42. > :25:48.feeling like it is more of their, like it is all right to do that. So

:25:49. > :25:52.nobody really told them wrong. When you are a child, it is

:25:53. > :25:58.obviously very difficult to know how to handle a situation. I mean, how

:25:59. > :26:01.did you feel about dealing with things said or done that were

:26:02. > :26:06.inappropriate? I didn't deal with it well at all. I

:26:07. > :26:16.had to stop going to school because I was getting bullied a lot and I

:26:17. > :26:22.ended up getting a stomach issue because I was getting bullied and it

:26:23. > :26:25.was not something that I dealt with quite well, but it is coming through

:26:26. > :26:29.the other side that is most important. What would you say to

:26:30. > :26:36.kids who find themselves in difficult situations and don't know

:26:37. > :26:40.how to respond? Just, they didn't do anything wrong. That was a major

:26:41. > :26:45.issue that I had and that previous people that I know have had that

:26:46. > :26:56.just to be brave and not to be afraid. Vicky, when you talk to kids

:26:57. > :27:01.that are in situations that are making them uncomfortable, what do

:27:02. > :27:04.you say, how do you build resilience in a child when there are issues

:27:05. > :27:08.that we have been talking about, about what is the norm? What is

:27:09. > :27:14.acceptable. What is unacceptable? It is really important that this is an

:27:15. > :27:21.issue that's addressed with both boys and girls and when we speak to

:27:22. > :27:26.our young members it is definitely a concern and they don't know how to

:27:27. > :27:31.deal with it. It should be something that's addressed universally by

:27:32. > :27:34.schools. It should be something that people, young people in particular,

:27:35. > :27:39.are taught to deal with so it doesn't spiral out of control when

:27:40. > :27:44.people get older and it could be dealt with so easily at this primary

:27:45. > :27:51.level and it is not being at the moment and it is really important

:27:52. > :27:54.that not only do people know what it is, that also people know when to

:27:55. > :28:01.stop and two, how to deal with it as well so it is important for Victim

:28:02. > :28:07.Support and also for those who are committing these types of offences.

:28:08. > :28:14.Steph on twith irsays, "Harassment in school is common. I was groped

:28:15. > :28:20.multiple times. Teenage grirles are girls are not objects." Grace on

:28:21. > :28:24.e-mail, "Schools should look at stereotyping in textbooks. There is

:28:25. > :28:28.too much sexual content online." Ann what do you think is the best way to

:28:29. > :28:32.tackle it? Well, the schools I have seen tackle this best are the ones,

:28:33. > :28:39.I think that, that deal with it from the whole school. So it is not

:28:40. > :28:43.something, you have not got a lesson it happens 4pm, it is part of the

:28:44. > :28:45.school purpose and culture. It is about respecting each other and it

:28:46. > :28:49.is very clear to everyone, within the school, that if there are

:28:50. > :28:53.issues, they will be dealt with. That's partly around having good

:28:54. > :28:58.education and good opportunities for all the young people to learn, but

:28:59. > :29:02.also discuss together, partly about having people there, maybe school

:29:03. > :29:06.counsellors to turn to when there are worries and that's another thing

:29:07. > :29:10.that comes through, really strongly, but I think also there is something

:29:11. > :29:13.the school can do to help parents talk about this. A lot of the

:29:14. > :29:17.conversation at the moment is about what schools can do, but what about

:29:18. > :29:20.parents? Schools are in a great position and a really important

:29:21. > :29:23.position, with responsibility to be able to really get up to speed and

:29:24. > :29:28.help prevent some of this, but ultimately as well, parents need to

:29:29. > :29:32.be the ones who understand what's going on, who feel confident and

:29:33. > :29:37.able to talk with their own children and help and guide them through. And

:29:38. > :29:39.what's the best advice on that because obviously a lot of time

:29:40. > :29:43.children won't be letting their parents know what is going on? I

:29:44. > :29:51.think be determined as a parent about talking about some of these

:29:52. > :29:57.things 6789 as a -- as a parent myself, you would be rebuffed.

:29:58. > :30:01.Engage in it from an early age around respect and the like. The

:30:02. > :30:05.guidance is essential. In schools, we have been calling for statutory

:30:06. > :30:09.sex he had case for a long, long time. And we've got, you know, there

:30:10. > :30:13.is a lot of people that agree with us, parents, lots of organisations

:30:14. > :30:16.and so on and the Government doesn't seem to be very keen on doing this.

:30:17. > :30:19.They want to leave it to the schools and they say the schools know their

:30:20. > :30:23.communities. I understand that, but what that means is young people are

:30:24. > :30:25.getting a very hit and miss education on these absolutely

:30:26. > :30:29.essential things and the result is what we're talking about today,

:30:30. > :30:32.where you've got young people who don't have access to the right

:30:33. > :30:35.information, don't feel kft dent about talking about these things,

:30:36. > :30:38.don't feel can have didn't about asserting their rights and I think

:30:39. > :30:42.we're really letting our young people down. I think a lot of

:30:43. > :30:45.schools want to do this, it is finding the space on the curriculum,

:30:46. > :30:48.it is making sure the teachers are trained properly to deal with it and

:30:49. > :30:53.there is proper resources and funding. What about the parents as

:30:54. > :30:55.well? I think parents have certainly indicated, a lot of parents don't

:30:56. > :30:59.feel comfortable about this stuff. About talking to their own kids

:31:00. > :31:03.about it? We want to talk to parents about and I think we do need,

:31:04. > :31:08.especially as children go into teenage years, maybe a lot of

:31:09. > :31:11.conversations shutdown and parents stop asking their kids things and

:31:12. > :31:16.the kids hide away and you have to find ways to keep the channels of

:31:17. > :31:19.communication open, but equally, I think sometimes people want another

:31:20. > :31:21.adult who they can trust and who they can speak to, like a teacher or

:31:22. > :31:30.someone in school. But kids will often say to adults,

:31:31. > :31:35.you don't understand it. Things are so different now, social media. You

:31:36. > :31:40.are younger, talking to younger people, what is the best way to get

:31:41. > :31:44.through and say, actually, that is not normal, this is normal, this is

:31:45. > :31:47.what you should be aspiring to, whatever the message is, how would

:31:48. > :31:54.you say is the best way to get through? It can be approached from a

:31:55. > :32:00.wide variety of different ways. A key way that we can do it is through

:32:01. > :32:05.school. That is the key avenue that we need to use. It is just talking

:32:06. > :32:08.to them about it in a casual way so that people, when they do report

:32:09. > :32:14.things like this, don't feel embarrassed about it, and think,

:32:15. > :32:18.maybe I shouldn't say anything, I know it is not normal but maybe I

:32:19. > :32:23.shouldn't say anything because it is embarrassing and maybe people will

:32:24. > :32:26.judge me for having reported it. It needs to be taken seriously,

:32:27. > :32:30.absolutely, but I think it needs to be talked about in a more casual way

:32:31. > :32:35.where people think, I can talk to people about it. As we have said,

:32:36. > :32:40.your situation was an extreme one, but what are your thoughts on the

:32:41. > :32:46.best way to get through to kids what is and isn't acceptable behaviour?

:32:47. > :32:53.Just learning more in school about what the line is not to cross. I

:32:54. > :32:58.don't think it is very clear, sexual education at school it is not made

:32:59. > :33:02.completely clear what you should and shouldn't be doing. I think there is

:33:03. > :33:06.a bit of confusion between children in that sense. I think having more

:33:07. > :33:11.education sexually at school to learn what is right and wrong, what

:33:12. > :33:17.is seen as being taken too far and how things can have an effect on

:33:18. > :33:24.people, would be a great start. Who would you have listened to when you

:33:25. > :33:27.were younger? Who would I listen to? Yes, often children will say to

:33:28. > :33:33.their parents, you don't understand, things are different now. Who would

:33:34. > :33:39.be the people to get through to you? I would always talk to teachers at

:33:40. > :33:43.school, that was my best place, at school, to talk to people. If I

:33:44. > :33:47.needed ad buys I would talk to somebody at school, like a teacher

:33:48. > :33:51.that I got along with. It is more difficult to talk to your parents

:33:52. > :33:58.than it is somebody at school, out of the home. Widely you think that

:33:59. > :34:03.is? Just because of how embarrassing and awkward it can get talking to

:34:04. > :34:10.your parents about sexual, anything sexual, it can get awkward and

:34:11. > :34:19.embarrassing, and most kids just want to talk to their teacher or a

:34:20. > :34:22.fellow pupil about it. There is something, as well, about young

:34:23. > :34:26.people learning this as a group, with peers, so it becomes a shared

:34:27. > :34:32.knowledge learned at the same time, and what we find at the moment is

:34:33. > :34:36.where sexual education does come into school it is often quite

:34:37. > :34:40.mechanistic or a small part of a biology lesson, and actually this is

:34:41. > :34:47.what you are talking about, being much broader, more casual, in a way,

:34:48. > :34:52.I suppose. Where I see it best is where you have got people who engage

:34:53. > :34:55.with children first and foremost, young people understand them, and

:34:56. > :34:58.they are introducing some of the information and knowledge as part of

:34:59. > :35:04.that, rather than starting with a rigid set of information and

:35:05. > :35:08.checklists. With everything out there, all being so accessible

:35:09. > :35:12.online, is it easy to put the genie back into the bottle? The online

:35:13. > :35:15.part of it will remain, online is with us, it is part of life, there

:35:16. > :35:20.are fantastic opportunities that come from that but there are also

:35:21. > :35:28.clear downfalls. We have to be robust about how we talk about

:35:29. > :35:31.things in schools as well, we have not had that conversation, but there

:35:32. > :35:36.is the potential to look at how we limit screens in schools. But also

:35:37. > :35:43.as part of the understanding that online is now with us, it can have

:35:44. > :35:46.ways to empower children. I have a task force looking at how we can

:35:47. > :35:52.give children more rights, the right to take down images they don't like,

:35:53. > :35:56.the right to get better digital literacy, they need to be part of

:35:57. > :35:59.life going forward. Thank you all very much, let us know what you

:36:00. > :36:01.think about the conversation we have just been having.

:36:02. > :36:05.Ruth Wariner was brought up in a polygamous cult

:36:06. > :36:07.in northern Mexico - she had 41 brothers and sisters,

:36:08. > :36:10.a makeshift home with no electricity and an abusive stepfather.

:36:11. > :36:14.She tells us what living that life was like.

:36:15. > :36:21."When I lost my hair, I felt like I lost my feminity."

:36:22. > :36:24.We hear from two young women who have alopecia - that's coming up

:36:25. > :36:38.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:36:39. > :36:40.The Justice Secretary, Michael Gove - the Cabinet's leading

:36:41. > :36:42.campaigner for Britain to leave the European Union -

:36:43. > :36:46.is accusing the Vote Remain side of patronising voters

:36:47. > :36:51.Yesterday a report by the Treasury claimed that leaving the EU

:36:52. > :36:57.would cost every UK household ?4300 a year by 2030.

:36:58. > :37:01.Mr Gove will say in a speech this morning that they are treating

:37:02. > :37:03.people like "mere children, capable of being frightened

:37:04. > :37:15.We would have a relationship of free trade and friendly cooperation. We

:37:16. > :37:18.would be able to demonstrate that democratic self-government, the

:37:19. > :37:22.model of Government we have had in the past and other countries like

:37:23. > :37:25.Australia and Canada used the advantage, can be deployed by others

:37:26. > :37:29.in order to spend money on our priorities and in order to negotiate

:37:30. > :37:37.new trade deals with other countries.

:37:38. > :37:39.Officials in Afghanistan say there've been more than 300

:37:40. > :37:41.casualties in a suicide attack in the capital, Kabul.

:37:42. > :37:46.Reports from Kabul suggest at least seven are dead.

:37:47. > :37:48.Three armed men reportedly entered a government building

:37:49. > :37:50.used by the country's special protection unit,

:37:51. > :37:52.The Taliban has claimed responsibility.

:37:53. > :37:56.Harun Najafizada has been to the scene.

:37:57. > :38:07.This building is the target of the suicide bombers. Some of their early

:38:08. > :38:11.attack by a car bomb and then some did break into this building. This

:38:12. > :38:19.is the unit for protection of dignitaries of Afghan government.

:38:20. > :38:22.Right opposite to this strategy plays is the Defence Ministry and

:38:23. > :38:27.over there is the Afghan presidential palace. As we speak,

:38:28. > :38:33.there is no more fighting going on, there is no firing here, the

:38:34. > :38:40.security forces are here in full force in order to contain the

:38:41. > :38:43.attackers. The Afghan president has said that this attack shows the

:38:44. > :38:45.weaknesses of insurgents in the real battlefield.

:38:46. > :38:48.The scale of sexual violence and intimidation in schools is to be

:38:49. > :38:51.The Women and Equalities Committee commissioned research

:38:52. > :38:53.before the investigation, which suggested that many

:38:54. > :38:57.assaults went unreported, and sex education was failing

:38:58. > :39:00.to tackle a culture in which boys felt entitled to inappropriate

:39:01. > :39:13.The first funerals are taking place in Ecuador for the victims of

:39:14. > :39:14.Saturday's at quake, which is now known to have killed more than 400

:39:15. > :39:18.people. Two days on, emergency workers

:39:19. > :39:20.are still attempting to locate survivors,

:39:21. > :39:22.with some success stories. This man was working

:39:23. > :39:28.in a hotel when it collapsed. He managed to call a relative on his

:39:29. > :39:30.mobile phone, who alerted firefighters.

:39:31. > :39:33.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

:39:34. > :39:41.Here's Will Perry now with this morning's sport headlines.

:39:42. > :39:47.Tottenham are right on Leicester City's tales in the title race after

:39:48. > :39:56.a 4-0 win at Stoke last night, Harry Kane and Dele Alli both scoring

:39:57. > :39:58.twice. They have closed the gap to five points with four to play.

:39:59. > :40:01.Leicester's top scorer Jamie Vardy could well see his his initial one

:40:02. > :40:04.game ban for a red card extended after being charged

:40:05. > :40:07.Vardy remonstrated with referee Jon Moss after he was dismissed

:40:08. > :40:09.with two yellows in Sunday's draw with West Ham.

:40:10. > :40:12.Vincent Kompany and Raheem Sterling are poised to return

:40:13. > :40:15.for Manchester City in tonight's game at Newcastle.

:40:16. > :40:18.Captain Kompany has had a month on the sidelines with a calf injury.

:40:19. > :40:20.Sterling has missed five games with a groin injury.

:40:21. > :40:25.Ronnie O'Sullivan faces disciplinary action from snooker's

:40:26. > :40:26.world governing body following his World

:40:27. > :40:30.The five-time champion beat Dave Gilbert to reach the second

:40:31. > :40:42.round but he refused to attend the oblig-atory post-match press

:40:43. > :40:44.-- round but he refused to attend the obligatory post-match press

:40:45. > :40:48.41 siblings, constant beatings and a house with no

:40:49. > :40:51.This was what life was like in the polygamous cult in Mexico

:40:52. > :40:55.But when she turned 15, she managed to escape with three

:40:56. > :40:57.of her younger siblings and, after rebuilding her life,

:40:58. > :41:00.has now written a book about her harrowing story.

:41:01. > :41:01.Describe the family you were born into?

:41:02. > :41:04.I am my mother's fourth child and my father's 39th.

:41:05. > :41:17.All my same age, just a few months apart.

:41:18. > :41:19.I grew up in a colony, a polygamous town

:41:20. > :41:22.The town was founded by my grandfather in the 1940s.

:41:23. > :41:26.And my memoir, The Sound Of Gravel, is the story of my life growing up

:41:27. > :41:28.there actually after my father was assassinated.

:41:29. > :41:30.I was three months old when he was killed by his brother,

:41:31. > :41:33.or his brother had him killed, actually, in order

:41:34. > :41:41.My mother remarried another polygamist man and had

:41:42. > :41:47.And that's what the beginning of my life was like.

:41:48. > :41:52.So the conditions in Mexico were a pioneer lifestyle -

:41:53. > :41:56.we didn't have electricity, and had an outhouse.

:41:57. > :42:06.And that was the beginning of my life.

:42:07. > :42:09.Tell us more about the cult, what the ideals were behind

:42:10. > :42:13.the founding of it, what the beliefs were and what you were brought up

:42:14. > :42:19.Well, I was brought up, I never knew my father,

:42:20. > :42:22.but I was brought up believing that he was the prophet

:42:23. > :42:26.of our community, and he definitely was the self-proclaimed prophet.

:42:27. > :42:30.He started our church, and he claimed to have authority,

:42:31. > :42:35.to have received his authority, and had visions about his priesthood

:42:36. > :42:38.stemming all the way back from Joseph Smith,

:42:39. > :42:42.who was the original founder of Mormonism in the 1830s.

:42:43. > :42:44.And the early Mormons practised polygamy.

:42:45. > :42:49.The way that Joseph Smith taught it was that men needed to have more

:42:50. > :42:52.than one wife in order to have enough children to populate

:42:53. > :43:03.So in his opinion, the way my dad taught it, was that a man wasn't

:43:04. > :43:09.really a man until he had at least two wives, and that it was a woman's

:43:10. > :43:12.responsibility to marry a man with several wives and have as many

:43:13. > :43:15.children as her body would allow her to.

:43:16. > :43:21.In the 1890s, polygamy became illegal in the United States.

:43:22. > :43:24.But there were several fundamentalists who still believed

:43:25. > :43:26.in the original early Mormon teachings, and my dad's family

:43:27. > :43:41.And my grandfather moved south of the border in the 1920s,

:43:42. > :43:44.How were those views indoctrinated in you growing up?

:43:45. > :43:47.Church on Sunday, and my mom talked about it all the time,

:43:48. > :43:49.how important it was for her to have kids.

:43:50. > :43:50.She struggled having so many children.

:43:51. > :43:52.She had ten, including two miscarriages and three

:43:53. > :44:04.So, in spite of how hard it was for her, in her belief system

:44:05. > :44:08.she felt like it was her obligation to serve God in the way

:44:09. > :44:12.It gave her a sense of purpose, and that's what all the women

:44:13. > :44:15.in the colony believed, and that's what the men believed, too.

:44:16. > :44:18.So what was it like being part of a family like that

:44:19. > :44:21.Well, in the beginning I didn't really know the difference.

:44:22. > :44:24.I started the first grade in a Mexican public school,

:44:25. > :44:27.and then I realised that, you know, my family was an American colony,

:44:28. > :44:29.so we grew up speaking English, so going to a Spanish-speaking

:44:30. > :44:34.But that started to introduce me, I was six years old,

:44:35. > :44:38.And when I was six years old, my stepfather at that time

:44:39. > :44:41.became pretty abusive, and so we moved to the United States

:44:42. > :44:49.And immediately when we started living with them in California

:44:50. > :44:51.in a small town there, I could see that life,

:44:52. > :44:55.my living conditions, were way worse.

:44:56. > :44:59.In a way it was a shock to me because I hadn't been used to living

:45:00. > :45:01.that kind of comfortable lifestyle, we didn't have central

:45:02. > :45:07.And I walked inside my grandparents' house, and it even smelled warm.

:45:08. > :45:10.It was just pretty amazing to have running water and warmth all around

:45:11. > :45:14.and showers and a bath, and an indoor toilet.

:45:15. > :45:17.And then my mother decided to go back to my stepfather

:45:18. > :45:24.You had had a taste of a very different life.

:45:25. > :45:27.What was it like going back then in that quite closed community,

:45:28. > :45:31.although, as you say, you did get schooling outside of it?

:45:32. > :45:36.Yeah, you know, it was really hard, when I was younger I didn't

:45:37. > :45:42.It was fun, I played with my little brothers and sisters,

:45:43. > :45:45.and I didn't realise how poor we were.

:45:46. > :45:48.But having to go back to a cold house, we had a barrel

:45:49. > :45:53.which heated the house, we put wood in it and it burned

:45:54. > :45:56.in the living room and that's the way we kept warm in one room.

:45:57. > :46:00.Going back to that lifestyle was really hard.

:46:01. > :46:03.It was really hard because I realised how poor we actually were.

:46:04. > :46:06.You talked more about the poverty than the abuse you suffered

:46:07. > :46:14.What was your perspective on that, and how that part

:46:15. > :46:21.When that started, my stepfather had been abusive physically

:46:22. > :46:27.towards my mother, but he started to sexually abuse me

:46:28. > :46:35.And at that point I always had conflict with my stepfather,

:46:36. > :46:38.because I knew he wasn't my father, and just because of the way

:46:39. > :46:43.And he had four wives of his own, so he wasn't around a lot.

:46:44. > :46:46.But when that started, it was obviously devastating.

:46:47. > :46:50.And I knew it was wrong, it was hard for me to tell my mom,

:46:51. > :46:52.but I told my mum about it right away.

:46:53. > :46:55.And he apologised and said it wouldn't happen again,

:46:56. > :47:01.Add my mom, because he kept apologising,

:47:02. > :47:02.she stayed for several years after that.

:47:03. > :47:11.You know, my mom was the kind of person who always made life fun

:47:12. > :47:14.for us, and she was a loving, caring person.

:47:15. > :47:17.And so for me, by the time she made that choice, it was...

:47:18. > :47:23.It created a tremendous amount of conflict in me,

:47:24. > :47:27.and frustration, because I had known the good side of her and I couldn't

:47:28. > :47:33.So, yeah, it created a tremendous amount of conflict in me.

:47:34. > :47:37.And as I grew into adolescence and became a teenager,

:47:38. > :47:42.I was incredibly angry with her for staying.

:47:43. > :47:45.And it got to a point where he finally stopped abusing me,

:47:46. > :47:49.but I found out that he had been abusing stepsisters as well.

:47:50. > :47:51.And actually several other children in the colony,

:47:52. > :47:55.and everybody turned a blind eye to it.

:47:56. > :48:01.There wasn't really anything I could do about it.

:48:02. > :48:06.And from that point, you took matters into your own hands

:48:07. > :48:11.- you effectively assumed the role of being a protective mother

:48:12. > :48:13.to the other siblings that you talked about

:48:14. > :48:18.What happened within you, and what did you decide to do?

:48:19. > :48:22.When she passed, my youngest sister was five months old.

:48:23. > :48:25.I had a two-year-old sister who we were still potty training,

:48:26. > :48:33.I had a five-year old brother, and a ten-year-old brother,

:48:34. > :48:37.and my special-needs brother, Luke, who was 18 months older than me,

:48:38. > :48:43.He came back from a trip he had taken with my stepfather,

:48:44. > :48:46.and I sat down and I could see that he was feeling uncomfortable

:48:47. > :48:52.and confused, and he had always had trouble communicating,

:48:53. > :48:55.and he sat down at the table one night, and I asked him

:48:56. > :48:58.what was wrong, and he started to describe the same kind

:48:59. > :49:04.of abuse that I had been going through in my early childhood.

:49:05. > :49:08.So at that point, we were living with one of my stepfather's other

:49:09. > :49:11.wives, his fourth wife, and because the colony

:49:12. > :49:14.and the people there hadn't done anything to protect me,

:49:15. > :49:18.I knew that they wouldn't do anything to protect my sisters

:49:19. > :49:25.I had an older brother in California, in San Diego,

:49:26. > :49:29.I called him and I said, look, this is what happened,

:49:30. > :49:32.this is what has been going on, and this is what is going to happen

:49:33. > :49:39.So I said, you need to come and get us, basically.

:49:40. > :49:41.When you walked away, could you easily walk

:49:42. > :49:50.So, it was hard to adjust. It was a lonely time for me.

:49:51. > :49:54.But, you know, I finished, I got my GED, which is

:49:55. > :49:58.the equivalent of getting a high school diploma here.

:49:59. > :50:01.I stayed at home and took care of my sisters.

:50:02. > :50:04.You speak without any trace of self-pity, or even

:50:05. > :50:09.it sounds like regret for a lost childhood,

:50:10. > :50:14.a sense that you were cheated, perhaps.

:50:15. > :50:17.How do you feel about that childhood you had, and how it has shaped

:50:18. > :50:23.you and the impact that it has had on the woman you have become?

:50:24. > :50:27.You know, there was a lot of good that came out

:50:28. > :50:35.I did learn, I learned my mom's work ethic, I learned, I think having,

:50:36. > :50:38.I took care of my brothers and sisters for almost 18 years.

:50:39. > :50:43.Having that purpose outside myself was incredibly healing.

:50:44. > :50:47.Also, just realising that I knew that my mom deserved better

:50:48. > :50:51.than what she had in the colony where we grew up, and I knew that

:50:52. > :50:55.So I made choices accordingly, for myself and my family,

:50:56. > :51:02.Ruth, thank you very much for talking to us.

:51:03. > :51:09.You can read more of Ruth Wariner's story in her memoir,

:51:10. > :51:18.Coming up, brutally stabbed to death on the streets of London.

:51:19. > :51:21.We speak to Myron Isaac Yarde's sister Chantelle who was her

:51:22. > :51:27."I couldn't even cry, I was in that much shock."

:51:28. > :51:31.The words of one 24-year-old woman when she started to lose her hair.

:51:32. > :51:35.A growing number of young people are seeking treatment

:51:36. > :51:36.for the condition, known as alopecia.

:51:37. > :51:40.Stress, depression and anxiety are often the cause.

:51:41. > :51:41.Student Imogen Proctor first noticed her hair falling

:51:42. > :51:51.I was in the shower, and I noticed that the plug

:51:52. > :51:54.was getting a little bit too full of hair too fast, and there was hair

:51:55. > :51:57.down my back and things and there was head being left

:51:58. > :52:02.I thought maybe I was dreaming or it wasn't a reality.

:52:03. > :52:05.I tried to brush it under the carpet in my mind.

:52:06. > :52:09.And then one day a little bit more came out than normal in my towel

:52:10. > :52:12.when I was driving my hair, and I went and I sat down

:52:13. > :52:14.and I sifted through my hair because I knew it wasn't

:52:15. > :52:16.feeling great, it felt thin and something was wrong.

:52:17. > :52:19.There was no way it was going to be happening without it

:52:20. > :52:26.So I sifted through both sides of my head, and on the right side

:52:27. > :52:30.I found a patch about the size of my first.

:52:31. > :52:36.And I just sat there, I remember it now, I was sat

:52:37. > :52:38.there on the end of my bed in my dressing gown looking

:52:39. > :52:41.in the mirror thinking, this isn't real, this isn't happening.

:52:42. > :52:43.I couldn't even cried, I was in that much shock.

:52:44. > :52:49.And for while I felt I'd lost my femininity.

:52:50. > :52:52.I went to the shop one day, and I was just wearing a hat rather

:52:53. > :52:56.than wearing a wig, and like I said, I was full of cold and I had

:52:57. > :52:59.a really heavy shopping basket and I dumped the trolley down

:53:00. > :53:03.in front of me in the queue and I was just, I let out a big sigh

:53:04. > :53:06.because I was just feeling rubbish and very sorry for myself,

:53:07. > :53:09.and the chap in front of me, and he said to me,

:53:10. > :53:13.And in that moment I was shocked, surprised, and I said, no,

:53:14. > :53:19.I have got a hair loss condition called alopecia which means

:53:20. > :53:23.And then he said to me, oh, well why?

:53:24. > :53:28.You know, if you can tell me then great,

:53:29. > :53:34.In January 2014, I went to a kick boxing competition.

:53:35. > :53:40.And I said to myself, right, I've lost all my hair,

:53:41. > :53:42.I'm feeling really strong, I'm going to win this competition,

:53:43. > :53:44.and when I win this competition I'm going to stand

:53:45. > :53:52.And I sort of thought, oh, and I felt really

:53:53. > :53:57.rubbish and I thought, I'm not going to do it,

:53:58. > :54:01.I can't do it, I told myself I was only going to go on the podium

:54:02. > :54:09.And in kick-boxing we all know each other quite well,

:54:10. > :54:12.you know, we all fight a lot of the same people.

:54:13. > :54:15.And I went and I was speaking to the girl Stevie

:54:16. > :54:18.who had won the final, and I told her what was going on,

:54:19. > :54:21.I said, look, Stevie, I've lost my hair and I think I came

:54:22. > :54:24.And she was like, do you know what, who cares?

:54:25. > :54:26.You have come to a kick boxing competition,

:54:27. > :54:29.you are still doing kick boxing, and you have lost your

:54:30. > :54:32.You know, why aren't you proud of yourself?

:54:33. > :54:36.I've come here to be brave, and I did it anyway.

:54:37. > :54:39.So I had a photo on the podium without my wig on.

:54:40. > :54:41.At that point, I was completely bald.

:54:42. > :54:44.It was just me and Stevie on the podium, she had her arm

:54:45. > :54:48.around me and we had our trophies, I had a big smile on my face.

:54:49. > :54:51.And that was my platform for coming out with the alopecia.

:54:52. > :54:53.And I think from then I've had quite positive experiences,

:54:54. > :54:59.and it has really changed me for the better.

:55:00. > :55:02.Victoria Short was just 22 when she started to lose

:55:03. > :55:07.She joins us via webcam from Gloucester.

:55:08. > :55:12.Thank you so much for joining us Victoria. Tell us what happened?

:55:13. > :55:18.When did you first start to lose your hair? So I was about 22. I had

:55:19. > :55:26.just finished university. I was on top of the world. I was really

:55:27. > :55:30.enjoying life and I was at work one day and I ran my fingers through my

:55:31. > :55:35.hair and at the back, the left-back of high head I found a small patch

:55:36. > :55:40.of hair that had gone, about this size of a five pence piece and I

:55:41. > :55:44.showed it to my mum later and we agreed that we'd keep an eye on it

:55:45. > :55:48.and it wasn't too bad, it was tiny and I thought I might have caught it

:55:49. > :55:52.or whatever. And then slowly over the following months I started to

:55:53. > :55:56.get a few more patches and those patches started to join up and I

:55:57. > :56:01.started to lose more and more of my hair and I went and saw the doctor

:56:02. > :56:05.who diagnosed alpiecia and referred me to a dermatologist and basically

:56:06. > :56:10.they said there wasn't very much they could do, there wasn't a way

:56:11. > :56:15.they could help me. And so over the nine months, that was in the April

:56:16. > :56:19.of 2011, and over the course of about nine months I lost all the

:56:20. > :56:24.hair on my head. And then I thought oh, OK, I'm through this, you know,

:56:25. > :56:29.it is rubbish, but I'm OK, you know, fine and then for the four months

:56:30. > :56:34.after that, I started losing all the hair on my body as well, I lost my

:56:35. > :56:39.eyelashes, my eyebrows, my body hair from top to bottom. They weren't

:56:40. > :56:43.really sure why and they still aren't sure why and it hasn't come

:56:44. > :56:53.back since. How have you felt as you have gone through that? We were

:56:54. > :56:57.hearing Imogen sce he describing the -- describing the conflicts and the

:56:58. > :57:00.struggles? It was really hard and everyone handles it in a different

:57:01. > :57:04.way. For me, I went through everything. I grieved as if someone

:57:05. > :57:07.had died which sounds terrible, but I was losing a part of my identity

:57:08. > :57:10.and I had no control and that was the bit I found the most difficult

:57:11. > :57:14.was not having control. I couldn't, it wasn't that I was too stressed,

:57:15. > :57:17.it wasn't that I was eating the wrong things or anything and I could

:57:18. > :57:21.go right, I will change that and it will be fine. I was just stuck with

:57:22. > :57:27.something over which I had no control. And for me, I went through

:57:28. > :57:34.all of the emotions and the one I found was the most difficult was

:57:35. > :57:38.actually guilt. I just felt really incredibly guilty that I was upset

:57:39. > :57:41.about what was effectively just hair. You know, and people always

:57:42. > :57:45.say it is just hair and it isn't just hair, it is a huge part of your

:57:46. > :57:49.identity. It is a huge part of who you are and so I felt guilty being

:57:50. > :57:53.upset about something that was trivial when I wasn't dying of

:57:54. > :57:56.cancer, I didn't have leukaemia, I wasn't having a kidney out, it was

:57:57. > :58:01.none of those things, it was just my hair and that was what I found the

:58:02. > :58:08.most difficult was shifting the guilt actually. Victoria, we are

:58:09. > :58:16.going to talk to Glen. How common is this, dmRen? It is thought to be

:58:17. > :58:20.about 4% of the population, but there are different situations, you

:58:21. > :58:29.can just get a sij patch. It maybe people aren't actually attending a

:58:30. > :58:33.clinic. But it is about roughly about 4%. What are the causes? We

:58:34. > :58:37.were hearing Victoria saying she was in a really good place when it was

:58:38. > :58:41.happening. It doesn't sound like there was stress involved? Victoria

:58:42. > :58:46.is fairly unique, in my experience and I have been qualified since

:58:47. > :58:51.1968, 90% in my experience are stress related. So Victoria, it is

:58:52. > :58:59.unique she was in a happy place. But it's thought to be an auto immune

:59:00. > :59:04.condition, it is not related to ill-health. Victoria brought up good

:59:05. > :59:09.points about guilt and so on, of not having cancer. The hair is a very

:59:10. > :59:13.emotive appendage, it affects confidence and morale and Victoria

:59:14. > :59:17.mentioned her identity and people's personalities are identified by

:59:18. > :59:23.their hair. Fortunately, I mean, there is a lot more support now.

:59:24. > :59:27.Another situation is that, you know, people can think they are undergoing

:59:28. > :59:31.chemotherapy, so it is what they perceive other people maybe

:59:32. > :59:37.thinking. What about treatment and whether it can be reversed? Yeah, in

:59:38. > :59:43.Victoria's case it is the whole body. Now, even in those situations,

:59:44. > :59:50.it can grow back spontaneously. So you might wake up one day and it has

:59:51. > :59:55.changed? There is not really a panacea. There is not something

:59:56. > :00:02.that's a miracle treatment in this situation. From patches, we get

:00:03. > :00:07.fairly good results on the treatment we give at Philip Kingsley trying to

:00:08. > :00:15.centre ta advertise the scalp and waking up the immune system that's

:00:16. > :00:19.responsible and you have got dermatological approaches. I don't

:00:20. > :00:28.think a topical applied steroid has any use. But in a lot of cases,

:00:29. > :00:32.there is spontaneous growth. There is spontaneous growth in a lot of

:00:33. > :00:33.cases. Glen, thank you. Thank you very much Victoria for joining us.

:00:34. > :00:46.Thank you. Good morning, we have got a

:00:47. > :00:51.beautiful day ahead across much of the UK, a lot of sunshine, as you

:00:52. > :00:55.can see on the satellite picture. Some cloud in the south and west,

:00:56. > :00:59.courtesy of the weak weather front, but through the date further holes

:01:00. > :01:04.will develop in that and further sunshine developing as a result. On

:01:05. > :01:07.the east coast, some sea breeze is developing, taking the edge of the

:01:08. > :01:12.temperatures in the east, but generally temperatures today not too

:01:13. > :01:17.bad at all, between ten and 16, possibly 17 somewhere in the

:01:18. > :01:21.south-east. Through the evening and overnight, once again the cloud will

:01:22. > :01:24.continue to melt away, in all areas it will be a cold night,

:01:25. > :01:28.temperatures down to freezing or just below, so some frost around.

:01:29. > :01:31.Cloud across northern Scotland and parts of Northern Ireland which

:01:32. > :01:36.could produce the odd shower. Also some patchy fog forming as well.

:01:37. > :01:38.That will lift readily tomorrow morning and then tomorrow, for most

:01:39. > :01:53.of the UK, we are looking at blue skies, a bit more cloud in the

:01:54. > :01:56.North, with the odd shower, breezy here and in the south, with the wind

:01:57. > :01:58.strengthening later, but tomorrow temperatures could be a touch on

:01:59. > :02:09.today, mid-teens, possibly a little bit more.

:02:10. > :02:11.Hello, it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme

:02:12. > :02:15.Michael Gove - one of the most senior politicians

:02:16. > :02:18.campaigning to leave the EU - accuses Vote Remain of treating

:02:19. > :02:20.voters like children who can be "frightened into obedience"

:02:21. > :02:22.but remain campaigners accuse him of making "simplistic statements".

:02:23. > :02:25.Did you miss out on your first choice primary school

:02:26. > :02:28.If you live in Reading your chances are much lower

:02:29. > :02:38.Myron Yarde was a 17-year-old music student and grime artist

:02:39. > :02:42.who was killed on the streets of London just a few weeks ago.

:02:43. > :02:44.His sister tells us she warned him constantly about the

:02:45. > :02:52.Just trying to show him basic first aid and just to be dangers of it,

:02:53. > :02:57.and constantly checking up on him to make sure that he is not getting

:02:58. > :03:05.involved in any of those things. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:03:06. > :03:10.with a summary of today's news. The Justice Secretary,

:03:11. > :03:12.Michael Gove - the Cabinet's leading campaigner for Britain to leave

:03:13. > :03:14.the European Union - is accusing the Vote Remain side

:03:15. > :03:17.of patronising voters Yesterday a report by the Treasury

:03:18. > :03:24.claimed that leaving the EU would cost every UK household ?4300

:03:25. > :03:30.a year by 2030. Mr Gove will say in a speech shortly

:03:31. > :03:33.that remain campaigners are treating people like children,

:03:34. > :03:35.and that leaving the EU would instead be an act

:03:36. > :03:37.of liberation and The Remain camps said his statements

:03:38. > :03:49.do not bear proper scrutiny. And we're expecting Michael Gove

:03:50. > :03:52.to deliver that speech at 11.30am and we'll be taking that live

:03:53. > :04:00.on the News Channel. Some news just come again, a man in

:04:01. > :04:05.his 30s has been arrested over the murder of a schoolboy in

:04:06. > :04:08.Peterborough more than 20 years ago. Six-year-old Rikki Neave was found

:04:09. > :04:12.strangled near his home and his mother was accused of killing him.

:04:13. > :04:14.An investigation into his murder was reopened in June last year and fresh

:04:15. > :04:18.appeal launched. Officials in Afghanistan say

:04:19. > :04:20.there've been more than 300 casualties in a suicide attack

:04:21. > :04:22.in the capital, Kabul. Reports from Kabul suggest

:04:23. > :04:24.at least seven are dead. Three armed men reportedly entered

:04:25. > :04:26.a Government building used by the country's

:04:27. > :04:28.special protection unit, The Taliban has claimed

:04:29. > :04:33.responsibility. The first funerals are taking place

:04:34. > :04:36.in Ecuador for the victims of Saturday's earthquake,

:04:37. > :04:38.which is now known to have killed But, two days on, emergency workers

:04:39. > :04:55.are still searching for survivors. This man was trapped underneath the

:04:56. > :04:59.hotel where he worked and called for help on his mobile phone.

:05:00. > :05:01.Firefighters said they discovered the bodies of seven other people

:05:02. > :05:03.at the site before finding him alive.

:05:04. > :05:06.The scale of sexual violence and intimidation in schools is to be

:05:07. > :05:09.The Women and Equalities Committee commissioned research

:05:10. > :05:11.before the investigation, which suggested that many

:05:12. > :05:12.assaults went unreported, and sex education was failing

:05:13. > :05:15.to tackle a culture in which boys felt entitled to inappropriate

:05:16. > :05:24.Cancer researchers say a fifth of people with advanced melanoma had

:05:25. > :05:27.no sign of tumours in their body after treatment with a pair

:05:28. > :05:37.The study of more than 140 patients also found that two thirds

:05:38. > :05:40.of people treated with the drugs survived for at least two years.

:05:41. > :05:42.British doctors leading the trial said the results

:05:43. > :05:45.Survivors of a boat carrying migrants, which capsized

:05:46. > :05:48.in the Mediterranean Sea, have told the BBC that up to 500

:05:49. > :05:52.people drowned, although there is no official confirmation.

:05:53. > :05:54.The group said they were travelling from Libya to Italy,

:05:55. > :05:58.and joined a larger boat already packed with people, which then sank.

:05:59. > :06:02.Numbers of migrants making the dangerous sea crossing

:06:03. > :06:10.A replica of an ancient arch destroyed by the so-called

:06:11. > :06:12.Islamic State group in the Syrian city of Palmyra will be unveiled

:06:13. > :06:21.The copy of the 2000-year-old Arch of Triumph has been built using 3D

:06:22. > :06:26.printing techniques, and marble donated by the Egyptian government.

:06:27. > :06:28.A duck which lost both feet to frostbite has been fitted

:06:29. > :06:32.with a new pair made on a 3D printer.

:06:33. > :06:34.Philip the duck was rescued in the US state of Wisconsin,

:06:35. > :06:41.He was going to be put down until a high school technology

:06:42. > :06:44.teacher agreed to try making a new pair with his class.

:06:45. > :06:51.Philip is now practising walking again at an animal sanctuary.

:06:52. > :06:56.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

:06:57. > :07:01.Thanks for all your comments on sexual harassment in schools.

:07:02. > :07:04.Lots of you getting in touch on this one.

:07:05. > :07:10.Tracy says, "Parents have to be telling both boys and girls

:07:11. > :07:12.what is and is not acceptable from a young age.

:07:13. > :07:17.Abdel says, "Girls should unite in a movement to stand up

:07:18. > :07:19.against sexual abuse and harassment and decent boys should

:07:20. > :07:23.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:07:24. > :07:30.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:07:31. > :07:32.Will Perry has the sport now and Tottenham keep the pressure

:07:33. > :07:35.on Leicester at the top of the Premier League.

:07:36. > :07:38."Leicester City, we're coming for you!"

:07:39. > :07:41.That was the song from the Tottenham fans at the Britannia Stadium last

:07:42. > :07:44.night as Spurs came away 4-0 winners over Stoke to close the gap

:07:45. > :07:47.on Claudio Ranieri's side at the the top of the Premier League

:07:48. > :07:49.to five points with four games to play.

:07:50. > :07:55.Former Spurs forward Clive Allen joins me now.

:07:56. > :08:04.Such a confident display last night, a really strong message to

:08:05. > :08:08.Leicester? Yes, without a doubt. The last two victories, 3-0 Manchester

:08:09. > :08:13.United and 4-0 array last night, send out a strong message. The group

:08:14. > :08:18.is full of confidence and trying to chase Leicester down. There has been

:08:19. > :08:22.so much focus on Leicester, everyone talking about it being the fairy

:08:23. > :08:26.tale if they can pull it off, do you think it has helped Spurs to come

:08:27. > :08:32.without the magnifying glass, the spotlight on them? Maybe, think it

:08:33. > :08:35.has. They have had a sensational season themselves, probably the aim

:08:36. > :08:40.at the start of the season was to try to break into the top four, they

:08:41. > :08:45.have been in amongst it all season and it is a group that is growing,

:08:46. > :08:49.getting stronger, and certainly the confidence they showed last night

:08:50. > :08:53.was amazing. The attention on Leicester has probably helped this

:08:54. > :08:58.young team. When you look at Spurs' last ball games, West Brom, Chelsea,

:08:59. > :09:03.Southampton, Newcastle, they need Leicester to slip up twice, can you

:09:04. > :09:07.see that happening? I think it is unlikely, all of a sudden there is

:09:08. > :09:11.just that little bit of doubt, the Jamie Vardy situation, how they will

:09:12. > :09:17.cope without him, one, too, maybe three games, and all of a sudden

:09:18. > :09:21.that gives birds the impetus to keep going. All they can do is win those

:09:22. > :09:27.games, they have to win them all, I think, if they are going to have a

:09:28. > :09:31.chance. As a Tottenham man, Clive, we mentioned that their retail for

:09:32. > :09:39.Leicester City, it would be a first league title. None since 1961, just

:09:40. > :09:42.as much a fairy tale as Leicester? Absolutely, my father won the double

:09:43. > :09:47.with Spurs in 61 so I grew up listening to how fantastic that team

:09:48. > :09:52.was. Every Spurs team since has tried to live up to that magnificent

:09:53. > :09:57.team. It is an incredible situation they find themselves in. I think it

:09:58. > :10:02.would be the stepping stone for the club to move forward in a big way.

:10:03. > :10:06.We have seen pictures of Harry Kane and Dele Alli's goals last night,

:10:07. > :10:12.those two superb in particular but the team, average age of 24,

:10:13. > :10:19.Pochettino has built up a young, exciting team? He has, the team has

:10:20. > :10:24.the best defensive record, they are young, very athletic, and have

:10:25. > :10:27.scored a lot of goals, so they are getting it right throughout the

:10:28. > :10:33.team. Players are switching positions, Eric Dier is a great

:10:34. > :10:37.example of that and had a fantastic season. It is all coming together

:10:38. > :10:40.well with this group and I just hope, I would love to see them win

:10:41. > :10:48.the Premier League this season. Thanks for joining us, Clive. Clive

:10:49. > :10:50.Allen, former Spurs forward who scored 49 goals in one season back

:10:51. > :11:03.in 86, 87, before I was born! And increasing war of words amongst

:11:04. > :11:10.those who are staying -- who want to stay in the EU and those who want to

:11:11. > :11:15.leave. Today it is the turn of the Justice Secretary Michael Gove, one

:11:16. > :11:21.of the leading Cabinet campaigners for an exit from the European Union.

:11:22. > :11:26.Norman Smith can tell us more. It is all kicking off, happy

:11:27. > :11:30.families it is not! This campaign has been dominated by acrimony and

:11:31. > :11:35.argy-bargy in the Tory party. Yesterday, George Osborne and his

:11:36. > :11:39.200 page dossier, complete with algebraic equations, warning about

:11:40. > :11:44.the risks of leaving the EU, hitting us in the wallet. Today, we get

:11:45. > :11:48.Michael Gove saying, no, the risk is staying in the EU. He will talk

:11:49. > :11:54.about how, if we stay, it will be like being taken hostage in a car,

:11:55. > :11:58.his words, and driven off to ever closer union. Also he will pick up

:11:59. > :12:03.in particular on what he says is an admission in this document that

:12:04. > :12:07.immigration, if we stay in the EU, will keep going up by hundreds of

:12:08. > :12:11.thousands every year despite the Government's promised to get it down

:12:12. > :12:16.to the tens of thousands, in other words the Government, of which he is

:12:17. > :12:20.a member, has failed. He will also dismissed the deal that David

:12:21. > :12:24.Cameron managed to negotiate before this whole referendum kicked off,

:12:25. > :12:29.saying it has proved useless in terms of curbing the desire of the

:12:30. > :12:36.EU to take more of our money and more of our power, and then he will

:12:37. > :12:38.go on to say that if we stay we risk losing control over our security

:12:39. > :12:47.services, over prisons policy, asylum policy. This is a very, very

:12:48. > :12:53.broad and intense attack on the Prime Minister and the Chancellor,

:12:54. > :12:57.his colleagues. Michael Gove is friends with both of these men. This

:12:58. > :13:01.morning they had Cabinet, so you wonder what was going on around the

:13:02. > :13:05.Cabinet table as they were all sitting there trying to be polite

:13:06. > :13:11.towards each other. I suppose some of the Brexit Cabinet ministers, as

:13:12. > :13:16.they went in, we managed to get a few words with them. If Michael Gove

:13:17. > :13:21.right that the Remain campaign is treating voters like children? It is

:13:22. > :13:24.a lively debate this morning, the Cabinet meeting is about the rest of

:13:25. > :13:32.things in Government. There is a lot of scaremongering going on. Whatever

:13:33. > :13:36.Michael said is right, absolutely. Let me give you some of the language

:13:37. > :13:42.which Michael Gove is going to use in his speech today, because that, I

:13:43. > :13:47.think, tells its own story. The way that fellow Tories are talking about

:13:48. > :13:55.each other. Michael Gove will accuse the Prime Minister, in his words, of

:13:56. > :14:00.treating voters like children, to be frightened into obedience, he will

:14:01. > :14:08.say, I conjuring up a new bogeyman every day. And he will also say that

:14:09. > :14:12.Mr Cameron and Mr Osborne want voters to believe that Britain is

:14:13. > :14:16.broken and beaten. That is the sort of language he is using, which

:14:17. > :14:22.follows on from Boris Johnson comparing Mr Cameron to Gerald

:14:23. > :14:27.Ratner, we had people accusing Mr Osborne of being part of some sort

:14:28. > :14:31.of conspiracy, it is getting increasingly heated. What tells its

:14:32. > :14:35.own story in a way is even quite mild-mannered polite members of the

:14:36. > :14:39.Tory party are wading into each other. Have a listen to Dominic

:14:40. > :14:46.Grieve, former Attorney General. Normally very, very respectable old

:14:47. > :14:51.Etonian type. This is what he had to say about Michael Gove this morning.

:14:52. > :14:54.He has had a fairly consistent pattern since the start of this

:14:55. > :14:57.referendum campaign with coming out with statements which simply don't

:14:58. > :15:02.bear proper scrutiny. He alleged, for example, that the Prime

:15:03. > :15:06.Minister's Brussels agreement that he secured was not worth the paper

:15:07. > :15:08.it is written on, and no international lawyer has agreed with

:15:09. > :15:13.him. I don't think its own department would agree with him on

:15:14. > :15:16.that. I am always willing to look carefully at what he says, and of

:15:17. > :15:20.course it is absolutely right that in this debate we are having on our

:15:21. > :15:23.future within the EU we should try to look at all sides of the

:15:24. > :15:27.argument, but simplistic statements which are not backed by any credible

:15:28. > :15:31.evidence are not helpful to that discussion.

:15:32. > :15:37.I am left wondering how on earth Mr Cameron puts his party back together

:15:38. > :15:41.again after this referendum, and I guess when they all come out of

:15:42. > :15:45.Cabinet today we will have to be looking for any bruises and woes

:15:46. > :15:46.they might have suffered in the Cabinet room as they got stuck into

:15:47. > :15:48.each other. And the BBC's Reality Check team has

:15:49. > :15:53.been going through the claims made by the Chancellor in more detail

:15:54. > :16:14.on our Reality Check pages. Lots of you getting in touch on

:16:15. > :16:18.alopecia after we heard from Victoria and Imogen. A viewer says,

:16:19. > :16:21."Only people who suffers from this complaint can understand the trauma.

:16:22. > :16:26.Doctors are not interested in the mental anguish. I am compelled to

:16:27. > :16:32.wear a hat, even though the disguise fails to take away the shame." Clare

:16:33. > :16:36.says, "I have suffered from alopecia for 14 years. It is a daily struggle

:16:37. > :16:42.to attempt to make my hair look nice. I get disheartened early time

:16:43. > :16:47.I wash my hair and find a new patch. Surely there must be ways of dealing

:16:48. > :16:52.with this." Poppy says, "I had alopecia when I was 32. One little

:16:53. > :17:00.patch. Ended up with no hair at all. I dreaded brushing, combing or

:17:01. > :17:05.washing my people. The stares of people when the wig moved was

:17:06. > :17:12.awful." ." Another viewer says "It is a change that is dramatic and

:17:13. > :17:21.happened quickly." Scott says, "I had alopecia when diagnosed with

:17:22. > :17:27.arthritis, it left a bald patch on my head. My GP told me to use

:17:28. > :17:28.ointment, not only did it clear tup, but it got rid of my grey hairs

:17:29. > :17:32.too." If you have got children you'll

:17:33. > :17:35.appreciate the sense of relief of finding out that your child has

:17:36. > :17:38.got into their first choice school, Well, yesterday, hundreds

:17:39. > :17:41.of thousands of parents across England found out

:17:42. > :17:44.what primary school their children But the likelihood of getting your

:17:45. > :17:48.child into their preferred school varies dramatically

:17:49. > :17:55.across the country. 90% are expected to get

:17:56. > :17:59.their first choice overall, in some areas one in six didn't get

:18:00. > :18:04.any of their choices. London was the worst

:18:05. > :18:07.affected region. In the Borough of Kensington

:18:08. > :18:10.and Chelsea just 69% of families got Just under 79% of children

:18:11. > :18:17.were offered their first Whereas in Redcar 98%

:18:18. > :18:20.got their first choice. A national average for England

:18:21. > :18:22.will not be available Joining me now is our education

:18:23. > :18:32.correspondent Sean Coughlan. Sean, we hear about this every year

:18:33. > :18:36.when the school places get allocated. Is it a changing picture?

:18:37. > :18:40.Is the situation getting worse? Well, I suppose the story behind the

:18:41. > :18:44.story is the rising population. And as there are more young people,

:18:45. > :18:47.there is more pressure on places. We often hear the long lists of

:18:48. > :18:51.percentages. In fact, every one of these is a family with a big story

:18:52. > :18:54.and there is a lot of anxiety in every family waiting for the

:18:55. > :18:58.results. In some parts of the country, it is a real, real problem.

:18:59. > :19:03.In some ways, it is a local story, but it is a national political

:19:04. > :19:07.argument. Should we spend more on just putting up more buildings and

:19:08. > :19:10.should we spend more on prioritising certain types of buildings, and

:19:11. > :19:14.certain types of school? The Labour Party criticised the Government for

:19:15. > :19:19.focussing on free schools, they say rather than just building schools

:19:20. > :19:22.where councils want them, they are building schools which are driven by

:19:23. > :19:25.political agenda. The Government rejects that and says we are

:19:26. > :19:28.building lots and lots of schools everywhere and we are keeping up

:19:29. > :19:36.with demand, but it is a race, there is lots more young people looking

:19:37. > :19:37.for places and there are a finite number of building spaces and

:19:38. > :19:40.schools can only expand so much. We can talk to some parents

:19:41. > :19:44.and teachers, and to Samantha Hale, who is a solicitor who helps

:19:45. > :19:57.parents appeal decisions. I want to go to Dawn Foster, Dawn,

:19:58. > :20:01.you did not get your son into the school that you wanted. Tell us what

:20:02. > :20:06.happened. We had three choices for my son this year and unfortunately,

:20:07. > :20:09.we were unsuccessful with each one of those choices so we have been

:20:10. > :20:12.awarded an alternative school for him. Where is the alternative

:20:13. > :20:16.school? Is it far away from where you are? It is about three miles

:20:17. > :20:21.from where we are at the minute, yes. But it is in the opposite

:20:22. > :20:26.direction to which we travel for my other son's nursery and school.

:20:27. > :20:30.So how do you feel about that? It's very, very it is appointing, I mean

:20:31. > :20:35.we went through it last year with my older son and it is upsetting, it is

:20:36. > :20:39.very, very stressful. And it is not a nice thing to go through. What

:20:40. > :20:43.will you do? Will you take what you have been offered or will you try to

:20:44. > :20:47.appeal it? We will try to appeal the decision, but we did go through the

:20:48. > :20:51.appeals process last year and it is harrowing and unfortunately last

:20:52. > :20:57.year, we were unsuccessful so we will go through the appeal process,

:20:58. > :21:02.but we are prepared if our appeals are unsuccessful again. Ed, I know

:21:03. > :21:06.you have been through it. Tell us what happened with you? Well,

:21:07. > :21:13.fortunately, I was successful in applying, but in my case, I was

:21:14. > :21:17.applying for my second son so he qualified under a sibling rule which

:21:18. > :21:21.will generally get priority over first-born children. What was it

:21:22. > :21:31.like the first time around? First time, it was much more stressful. We

:21:32. > :21:34.live in London and in many areas, in many, many schools, you need to live

:21:35. > :21:42.incredibly close to the school in order to stand a good chance of

:21:43. > :21:48.getting in. In fact, I mean, one of the issues is actually knowing in

:21:49. > :21:53.advance working out your chances of actually get a place at the school.

:21:54. > :21:56.It varies a lot from school to school and from local authority to

:21:57. > :22:01.local authority, different schools use different admission criteria to

:22:02. > :22:09.work out how places will be allocated. And partly as a result of

:22:10. > :22:14.going through the exercise of my own research into this, I ended

:22:15. > :22:20.upsetting up a website to try and help other parents better understand

:22:21. > :22:24.school admissions. So I have spent a lot of time looking into this. And

:22:25. > :22:27.trying to help other people. Let's talk to Caroline Williams, you are

:22:28. > :22:34.an ex-deputy head. You actually gave up last year. That job to look after

:22:35. > :22:38.your children. Your daughter has got into your first choice school. Was

:22:39. > :22:44.the fact that you knew the system helpful? In a way, it was helpful.

:22:45. > :22:47.We are very fortunate that we live in sort of quite a small village and

:22:48. > :22:52.my daughter has got into the local village school and of course, when

:22:53. > :22:55.the letter came through initially to give the allocated school, it was my

:22:56. > :22:58.local school, but of course, the letter does state that you are not

:22:59. > :23:01.guaranteed to get that place. I know in the past though with the school

:23:02. > :23:05.that my daughter has got into, because there is a sibling rule,

:23:06. > :23:09.that for a class of 30, there were 29 siblings. So in the village, some

:23:10. > :23:15.parents didn't get their children in, but fortunately, we have done

:23:16. > :23:19.this year. So in a year like that, when there are that many siblings

:23:20. > :23:26.and one place for non sibling, what hope is there for anybody who is

:23:27. > :23:30.obviously not going to qualify? Well, not a lot which is one of the

:23:31. > :23:33.reasons why parents need to know that they should look around and

:23:34. > :23:36.they should look at other schools and go into those schools because,

:23:37. > :23:42.you know, it is never ever guaranteed. We got the e-mail

:23:43. > :23:46.through at quarter past midnight and I hadn't realised how worried I was

:23:47. > :23:49.until I got the news and you know, I was very, very happy, but that's the

:23:50. > :23:53.importance of looking around other schools as well just in case you

:23:54. > :24:00.don't get that choice. Samantha, you are a solicitor that helps parents

:24:01. > :24:05.appeal against deses. That was a -- decisions. That was a stark example,

:24:06. > :24:08.where it was 99% siblings, if you don't get your child into a school

:24:09. > :24:11.and the fact is the other places are taken up, what hope can you give to

:24:12. > :24:16.a parent because the school can't magic up a place, can it? No, the

:24:17. > :24:19.difficulty is that there is a huge demand on school places as we've

:24:20. > :24:22.already heard and if a parent hasn't been successful in getting one of

:24:23. > :24:26.their preferences the only route that they can try is an appeal to

:24:27. > :24:33.the independent appeal panel. Now, that stacks show that there is a bit

:24:34. > :24:37.of a postcode Lottery depending on where peoplely and depending on what

:24:38. > :24:42.chances they might have with appeal. We would encourage parents to try

:24:43. > :24:46.the appeal route because if you have a particular preference to try and

:24:47. > :24:51.get a place. How does a school manage it, Lynn? You are a

:24:52. > :24:55.headteacher of a primary school in Oxford, rated outstanding by Ofsted.

:24:56. > :24:59.If a school has given out its places and someone comes through and

:25:00. > :25:03.appeals, and is successful, how can a school accommodate what happens?

:25:04. > :25:07.Largely because of the threshold of 30 in a class, most of the appeals

:25:08. > :25:10.don't go through, if they go through the local authority, all of our

:25:11. > :25:13.places because we are still a local authority school get allocated via

:25:14. > :25:17.the local authority. So we are not dealing directly with our own

:25:18. > :25:20.admissions. If parents choose to go to appeal then it is down to this

:25:21. > :25:24.independent authority and because we are legally not able to go over 30,

:25:25. > :25:28.actually there is very little that people can do. There was one

:25:29. > :25:33.instance where the local authority made an error and we got 31

:25:34. > :25:36.children, we take 90, so we are a big school, but in that instance,

:25:37. > :25:42.there is a loophole in the law which says that as long as you don't go

:25:43. > :25:47.over your 30 in a class for a year, then actually, you don't need to

:25:48. > :25:55.appoint a new teacher. So we were able to rely on somebody leaving and

:25:56. > :25:59.that place becoming safe. To go back too that statistical reality, what

:26:00. > :26:03.makes a successful appeal? Well, there is certain criteria that the

:26:04. > :26:06.panel would be considering. They would be considering whether infant

:26:07. > :26:09.class size is an inIrish you. Presumably the places have been

:26:10. > :26:13.allocated if kids are being turned away? They should have been. That's

:26:14. > :26:16.one thing they will be taking into consideration, there is two-ways

:26:17. > :26:20.which primary appeals can be dealt with. They can be dealt with infant

:26:21. > :26:23.class size appeals and that's where the published admissions number

:26:24. > :26:28.breaks down so it is 30 per class, but some schools will work that they

:26:29. > :26:31.won't have 30 per class and their published admissions number will be

:26:32. > :26:35.25. So they might not have to actually deal with the issues of the

:26:36. > :26:37.infant class size prejudice. So that's something they will take into

:26:38. > :26:41.consideration. They will also have to look at whether or not the

:26:42. > :26:46.schools admission arrangements are lawful. Whether or not they have

:26:47. > :26:49.been applied correctly in the individual's kasz and if they

:26:50. > :26:53.haven't, if it would have actually led to the place being offered. Then

:26:54. > :26:57.the other thing they can take into consideration is whether or not

:26:58. > :27:01.another admission authority would have reasonably refuse that had

:27:02. > :27:06.application as well. So as long as you are able to show that one of

:27:07. > :27:09.those is applicable then you have a potential chance of success at

:27:10. > :27:13.appeal. How much are parents spending on something like that? It

:27:14. > :27:17.depends on the individual cases and it depends how much assistance they

:27:18. > :27:22.want with it. It is not cheap? It depends. We can offer support to

:27:23. > :27:25.help parents with basic advice, if they just want to come in and have a

:27:26. > :27:29.little bit of advice with a solicitor or we can help them with a

:27:30. > :27:33.full appeals package, but we also have a full and comprehensive

:27:34. > :27:37.admissions pack on our website that gives lots of free advice so if

:27:38. > :27:41.parents want to go through this process by themselves, they can do

:27:42. > :27:46.and they don't have to have legal representation, but we would

:27:47. > :27:49.encourage it. Paul says, "It is important you don't perpetuate the

:27:50. > :27:58.myth that parents have a choice, they don't. As an admissions panel

:27:59. > :28:03.chair I see many people coming thinking the panel can help them.

:28:04. > :28:12.They can go away disappointed." Another viewer, "My daughter has

:28:13. > :28:19.been given a place a 30 minutes walk away." Sorry Nicky Morgan and

:28:20. > :28:22.Michael Gove, your plans are flawed. Caroline, you were talking about

:28:23. > :28:28.there about the importance of parents being aware of the choices,

:28:29. > :28:33.but parents do get very, look into it carefully and pick the school

:28:34. > :28:37.they want and then really put a lot by their hopes of actually getting

:28:38. > :28:41.into that school, particularly if they are looking at things like

:28:42. > :28:48.Ofsted ratings and league tables? Yeah. Obviously, Ofsted ratings and

:28:49. > :28:52.league tables are important. But I would strongly say for people to go

:28:53. > :28:56.in to look at a school. There has been a lot in the news about weaker

:28:57. > :29:01.schools in more deprived areas for want of a better expression. And I

:29:02. > :29:05.think, judging by league tables and Ofsted, you can't do that. You have

:29:06. > :29:10.to go into these schools to see what is happening in there because the

:29:11. > :29:15.talk of sending super teachers into weaker schools, it is ridiculous in

:29:16. > :29:21.my experience. Schools are full of super teachers. Every teacher is a

:29:22. > :29:28.super teacher. I could go on about this, but you know, talking about

:29:29. > :29:32.going into a school, that is Ofsted good or less, you might have

:29:33. > :29:37.children in there who don't speak English, you know, a teacher going

:29:38. > :29:40.into a class where 97% of the children don't speak English, it is

:29:41. > :29:45.difficult to get those children to reach the same levels as a school

:29:46. > :29:49.where the children enter a school with full understanding of English

:29:50. > :29:52.gral arand spoken English, if we look at league tables and Ofsted

:29:53. > :29:56.reports, they are based on the results. Whereas if you go into a

:29:57. > :30:00.school and see what goes on in the schools and see the care and the

:30:01. > :30:04.attention and the social education that children get, I think parents

:30:05. > :30:09.would actually get a very different view as to some of these schools.

:30:10. > :30:12.Ed, going back to that e-mail from Paul talking about a myth that

:30:13. > :30:17.parents have a choice. Do you think parents do really have a choice? It

:30:18. > :30:22.depends entirely on where you live. In some areas, it depends on whether

:30:23. > :30:25.the schools are at capacity in large chunks of London, you have little

:30:26. > :30:29.choice. There is lots of schools around you, but you can't get into

:30:30. > :30:33.them. Most, a high proportion of schools in primary schools in London

:30:34. > :30:40.are now over subscribed, much higher than the national average. And it

:30:41. > :30:45.means that you need to live either very close or meet particular faith

:30:46. > :30:48.criteria in order to get into a particular school, but in effect,

:30:49. > :30:51.what ends up happening is that you end up going back to the old regime

:30:52. > :30:55.which is you go to your local school, if you don't get into your

:30:56. > :31:00.local school then you are in trouble because you don't get into the next

:31:01. > :31:03.nearest school, you end up being shipped half-way across the borough

:31:04. > :31:07.to go to a different school. This isn't just London, it is happening

:31:08. > :31:10.in a lot of other places around the country. Thank you all. Thank you

:31:11. > :31:13.for your thoughts on that and thank you for getting in touch and letting

:31:14. > :31:16.us know what you think about it as well.

:31:17. > :31:18.Still to come: Myron Yarde was a 17-year-old music student

:31:19. > :31:21.and grime artist who was killed on the streets of London

:31:22. > :31:24.His sister tells us she worried about him constantly.

:31:25. > :31:27.Scientists say that a combination of two different drugs can help

:31:28. > :31:31.dramatically in the fight against skin cancer.

:31:32. > :31:33.We'll be speaking to the medical director

:31:34. > :31:39.of the Royal Marsden Hospital, where part of the trial was carried

:31:40. > :31:42.out, and to a skin cancer patient and an expert from

:31:43. > :32:01.The Justice Secretary, Michael Gove, will argue that leaving

:32:02. > :32:04.the EU would be an act of patriotic renewal, with long-term

:32:05. > :32:07.In a speech this morning, Mr Gove will attack claims

:32:08. > :32:09.made by the Remain side, accusing them of treating

:32:10. > :32:14.Yesterday a report by the Treasury said that leaving the EU would cost

:32:15. > :32:18.every UK household ?4300 a year by 2030.

:32:19. > :32:22.We would have a relationship of free trade and friendly cooperation.

:32:23. > :32:27.We would be able to demonstrate that democratic self-government,

:32:28. > :32:35.the model of government we have had in the past and other

:32:36. > :32:40.countries like Australia and Canada use to their advantage,

:32:41. > :32:43.can be deployed by us in order to spend money on our priorities

:32:44. > :32:46.and in order to negotiate new trade deals with other countries.

:32:47. > :32:49.And we're expecting Michael Gove to deliver that speech in an hour

:32:50. > :32:52.at 11.30am and we'll be taking that live on the BBC News channel.

:32:53. > :32:55.A man in his 30s has been arrested over the murder of a schoolboy

:32:56. > :32:57.in Peterborough more than 20 years ago.

:32:58. > :33:00.Six-year-old Rikki Neave was found strangled near his home, and his

:33:01. > :33:04.She was found not guilty by a jury and has campaigned for his murder

:33:05. > :33:08.Police in Afghanistan say that more than two dozen people,

:33:09. > :33:10.most of them civilians, have been killed in

:33:11. > :33:24.The suicide bomber and a gunman, who was shot dead by security forces

:33:25. > :33:27.targeted a building used by the country's special protection

:33:28. > :33:28.unit, which guards senior politicians.

:33:29. > :33:29.The Taliban has claimed responsibility.

:33:30. > :33:32.The scale of sexual violence and intimidation in schools is to be

:33:33. > :33:35.The Women and Equalities Committee commissioned research

:33:36. > :33:37.before the investigation, which suggested that many

:33:38. > :33:38.assaults went unreported, and sex education was failing

:33:39. > :33:41.to tackle a culture in which boys felt entitled to inappropriate

:33:42. > :33:58.The number of people known to have died in the earthquake which struck

:33:59. > :34:00.a good on Saturday has risen to 413. Rescue teams searching through the

:34:01. > :34:03.rubble of collapsed buildings have pulled out a number of survivors.

:34:04. > :34:07.This man was trapped under the rubble of a hotel where he worked

:34:08. > :34:11.and managed to call a relative on his mobile phone.

:34:12. > :34:14.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC

:34:15. > :34:20.Here's Will Perry now with this morning's sport headlines.

:34:21. > :34:26.Tottenham are right on Leicester City's tails

:34:27. > :34:30.in the title race after a 4-0 win at Stoke in the Premier League

:34:31. > :34:33.Harry Kane and Dele Alli both scored twice

:34:34. > :34:36.at the Britannia Stadium as Spurs closed the gap on Leicester to five

:34:37. > :34:40.Leicester's top scorer Jamie Vardy could well see his his initial one

:34:41. > :34:42.game ban for a red card extended after being charged

:34:43. > :34:46.Vardy remonstrated with referee Jon Moss after he was dismissed

:34:47. > :34:54.with two yellows in Sunday's draw with West Ham.

:34:55. > :34:56.Captain Vincent Kompany and Raheem Sterling

:34:57. > :34:58.are poised to return for Manchester City in tonight's

:34:59. > :35:02.Kompany has had a month on the sidelines with a calf injury.

:35:03. > :35:04.Sterling has missed five games with a groin injury.

:35:05. > :35:06.Ronnie O'Sullivan faces disciplinary action from snooker's

:35:07. > :35:08.world governing body following his World

:35:09. > :35:11.The five-time champion beat Dave Gilbert to reach the second

:35:12. > :35:14.round, but he refused to attend the obligatory post-match press

:35:15. > :35:34.I will have more sport on the BBC News Channel throughout the day.

:35:35. > :35:37.You may have heard about the 17-year-old up-and-coming

:35:38. > :35:39.musician Myron Isaac Yarde, who a couple of weeks back

:35:40. > :35:43.was stabbed and killed after a fight broke out among a group of young

:35:44. > :35:46.Earlier today I spoke to his sister, Chantelle Gray.

:35:47. > :35:49.She was his legal guardian after their mum died from cancer

:35:50. > :35:53.This is her first public interview since her brother's passing.

:35:54. > :36:00.I just feel that all the positive talk about Myron as a person,

:36:01. > :36:09.especially the fact that my mum is not around, I was his Guardian, I

:36:10. > :36:16.just wanted to let people know what sort of person he was, from the

:36:17. > :36:20.response of the public and everything, friends, family, how

:36:21. > :36:26.they spoke of Myron was true to who he was. He was such a lovely

:36:27. > :36:32.brother, and, like said, he was like a son to me, it is a great loss to

:36:33. > :36:37.us as a family. Like a son to you because you were 19 when he was born

:36:38. > :36:43.and you chose his name, didn't you? It was almost like you were a mother

:36:44. > :36:53.to him from the moment he arrived? Yes, he used to come to my house

:36:54. > :37:05.when I was married, I used to take into church, on holidays. He was

:37:06. > :37:11.just... Part of me, we had a special bond, a very special bond. What was

:37:12. > :37:21.he like? He was quite sarcastic at times. He was very friendly, loved

:37:22. > :37:27.by the community. He was always smiling, never upset, even when our

:37:28. > :37:31.mum passed away, he went to school the next day. I told him he didn't

:37:32. > :37:37.have to go to school but he still wanted to go. He finished his exams,

:37:38. > :37:43.he was very popular at school, I used to go to his parents evenings

:37:44. > :37:49.and they would always say good things about him. He started to go

:37:50. > :37:55.to college to do music, I went with him to enrol and it was quite far so

:37:56. > :38:01.I wanted to see what his journey would be like, so I had a picture in

:38:02. > :38:10.my mind where he was going. He was doing really, really well. If he

:38:11. > :38:17.enjoyed something, he would stick at it. When he was younger he used to

:38:18. > :38:20.skateboard and then roller-skate, and once he had a passion for

:38:21. > :38:27.something he would just continuously do that, and that is what happened

:38:28. > :38:34.with the music as well. He volunteered in the youth centre

:38:35. > :38:40.three days a week. No one was allowed in the studio unless he was

:38:41. > :38:46.there. The youth club, all the youth workers there, they always had good

:38:47. > :38:50.things to say about him. A talented boy, a boy described by those who

:38:51. > :38:59.knew him, including his teachers, as someone who was positive, smiley,

:39:00. > :39:06.and had this talent. Growing up in quite a, is it better say, difficult

:39:07. > :39:12.environment? I grew up there as well, and parts of it is quite a

:39:13. > :39:21.close-knit community, everyone knows each other, but there are parts of

:39:22. > :39:31.it when people get into trouble, because of the local schools. How

:39:32. > :39:34.did he navigate that? Through doing activities like the skateboarding,

:39:35. > :39:46.roller-skating, being given the studio, it kept him away from that

:39:47. > :39:54.sort of way of life. That evening, when he went out, he was part of a

:39:55. > :39:58.group, and he was stabbed. Friends of his previously had been stabbed.

:39:59. > :40:06.Were knives something you were very aware of? I constantly worried, even

:40:07. > :40:11.when he used to go, as a mother you would worry about your child, when

:40:12. > :40:19.he used to go roller-skating and he would go to Stratford and I would

:40:20. > :40:23.sit there at night worrying, thinking, anything could happen

:40:24. > :40:28.anywhere, but I would talk to him about knives, what you should do if

:40:29. > :40:32.someone gets stabbed, if one of your friends got stabbed, to not pulled a

:40:33. > :40:43.knife out, you must leave it in, just trying to show basic first aid,

:40:44. > :40:49.and just to be aware of the dangers of it, and constantly checking up on

:40:50. > :40:53.him to make sure that he's not getting involved in any of those

:40:54. > :41:01.things. You are obviously very proud of the talent that he had but you

:41:02. > :41:05.feel a slight reticence, I suppose, about the music, is it fair to say,

:41:06. > :41:09.because of the sort of image that is portrayed in some of that music,

:41:10. > :41:16.that maybe isn't reflective of the person that you knew? A lot of the

:41:17. > :41:21.time it is like that with a lot of the teenagers, how they are

:41:22. > :41:27.reflected in the music is not personally how they are and it is

:41:28. > :41:35.just, to them, entertainment, just like in the music industry, the same

:41:36. > :41:43.thing, you know? Unless you know someone properly, know who they are

:41:44. > :41:47.as a person. He was somebody with a talent, as we have said. What were

:41:48. > :41:57.your hopes for him, what were his hopes? His hope was to become a

:41:58. > :42:03.star, make it big in music. My hope for him was to maybe go down a

:42:04. > :42:09.different path, they're all different types of music that you

:42:10. > :42:16.can get involved in, like film production, adverts, things like

:42:17. > :42:22.that. I just wanted him to do something a little bit different.

:42:23. > :42:27.And I know that you want to help other families who find themselves

:42:28. > :42:31.in a similar situation to the one that you are in, and also obviously

:42:32. > :42:35.want to try to help ensure that other families don't find themselves

:42:36. > :42:46.in this situation. What would you want his legacy to be? With the Go

:42:47. > :42:49.Fund Me, it was really overwhelming and hard for me to look at, because

:42:50. > :42:56.he set one up for his friend who passed away, and he sent me the

:42:57. > :43:00.link. What happened to his friend? His friend was stabbed as well. He

:43:01. > :43:10.moved away from the area and was stabbed in another area. He was very

:43:11. > :43:14.much like that, he was touched by and very taken by what had happened

:43:15. > :43:20.to his friend, so he wanted to do something to help their family. So

:43:21. > :43:28.he set up a Go Fund Me and sent out the link, and when this happened to

:43:29. > :43:35.my brother it was very hard for me to even look at the website, but

:43:36. > :43:39.then I'm seeing how much people responded, showing their sympathy,

:43:40. > :43:47.and it was just so amazing and overwhelming. But I couldn't believe

:43:48. > :43:53.that now my brother was on one of these things for the same reason, it

:43:54. > :43:57.is just totally heartbreaking. Chantal Gray talking to me about the

:43:58. > :44:01.death of her brother, Myron. Lots of you are getting in touch my

:44:02. > :44:04.conversation we had early-onset shawl harassment in schools, and

:44:05. > :44:13.sexual attitudes among young people in schools -- sexual harassment.

:44:14. > :44:19.How about talking about respect, reducing the focus on the sexual

:44:20. > :44:21.side and widening the topic to a broader topic of respect to

:44:22. > :44:26.everyone. Another says, it is not just boys

:44:27. > :44:30.that are rascals and it is not a the nominal. At primary school we were

:44:31. > :44:34.frequently sexually teased by older girls. Unless you recognise that

:44:35. > :44:38.sexual activity is a two-way arrangement and that both genders

:44:39. > :44:40.are immersed in a cultural environment that promote and

:44:41. > :44:44.celebrate sexual promiscuity, you will never stop the rot.

:44:45. > :44:48.A former teacher has texting to say, parents must take responsibility for

:44:49. > :44:54.children's digital harassment of other children and staff. Parents by

:44:55. > :44:58.these devices and pay the bills, they must supervise use of these

:44:59. > :45:01.items and confiscate them indefinitely if misused.

:45:02. > :45:05.Thank you for those comments, keep them coming in.

:45:06. > :45:07.An injunction banning the media in England and Wales from reporting

:45:08. > :45:10.the identity of a married celebrity who allegedly took part

:45:11. > :45:12.in a threesome has been lifted but Supreme Court judges

:45:13. > :45:14.are currently considering whether to allow an appeal.

:45:15. > :45:23.Our legal eagle Clive Coleman is here.

:45:24. > :45:29.Bring us up-to-date. What we had yesterday was the Court of Appeal

:45:30. > :45:33.lifting this injunction, the injunction was originally imposed in

:45:34. > :45:36.January. At that time relatively few people knew the detail and the

:45:37. > :45:40.identity of the celebrity concerned. Yesterday, the Court of Appeal said

:45:41. > :45:45.that the injunction had held for 11 weeks, but in the last two weeks,

:45:46. > :45:49.because of publication abroad and in an American newspaper and

:45:50. > :45:51.publication online, the information had been very widely brought to

:45:52. > :45:57.light and put into the public domain. So they lifted this

:45:58. > :46:00.injunction, but they kept it in place for a further two day to say

:46:01. > :46:05.give the celebrity the opportunity to go to the Supreme Court, they had

:46:06. > :46:11.to lodge papers, by 10am this morning, that we have been told has

:46:12. > :46:15.been done and we are told by the end of the day, three Supreme Court

:46:16. > :46:21.justices will decide whether to give leave to appeal or refuse that. If

:46:22. > :46:25.they give leave to appeal, the injunction remains in place. If they

:46:26. > :46:30.refuse leave to appeal, the injunction will be lifted at 1pm

:46:31. > :46:33.tomorrow. If they refuse then really the greyhounds will be in the blocks

:46:34. > :46:38.in terms of the mainstream media and they will be able to publish as from

:46:39. > :46:43.1pm tomorrow, without fearing contempt of court. They could

:46:44. > :46:48.however, still be sued for breach of privacy. That would be a money

:46:49. > :46:51.claim, but they wouldn't face the much more dangerous sanction of

:46:52. > :46:52.contempt of court. So that's where we are.

:46:53. > :46:57.Thank you very much, Clive. Up to 500 migrants are feared

:46:58. > :47:00.to have drowned after their boat Survivors told the BBC the accident

:47:01. > :47:04.happened when two hundred people were transferred onto an already

:47:05. > :47:07.crowded boat at sea. 41 people were rescued and are being

:47:08. > :47:10.held in Kalamata in Greece. Our correspondent Will Ross

:47:11. > :47:20.is there, and sent this report. This is the idyllic town of Kalamata

:47:21. > :47:23.and the port behind me, that's where the 41 survivors

:47:24. > :47:25.of this latest disaster to the boat which then carried

:47:26. > :47:46.on with its journey with the Libyan Led left Libya on a boat, 240 of

:47:47. > :47:51.them and then the Libyan trafficker forced them to move on a larger

:47:52. > :47:58.boat, that boat that had 300 people on board. This it capsized and 500

:47:59. > :48:02.people drowned. The survivors headed on further across the Mediterranean

:48:03. > :48:06.until the engine broke down. They were rescued on a cargo vessel and

:48:07. > :48:10.brought ashore here. Now, what's very clear, is that there are

:48:11. > :48:14.thousands more who are still in Libya, who are willing to make the

:48:15. > :48:18.extraordinary journeys and take these risks and put their faith into

:48:19. > :48:22.the trafficking gangs who are only interested in money, despite the

:48:23. > :48:26.extraordinary risks. But if confirmed, this could be one of the

:48:27. > :48:29.worst ever tragedies at sea since this entire migrant crisis began.

:48:30. > :48:33.Sarah Tyler is from Save the Children.

:48:34. > :48:42.Sarah, what's your experience on how many migrants are still trying to

:48:43. > :48:47.make these crossings? The latest reports are that about 24,000 have

:48:48. > :48:50.come over alone this year and of those numbers 4,000 are children

:48:51. > :48:54.actually travelling alone. So we are really concerned as the weather

:48:55. > :48:58.improves, we will see more men, women and children trying to make

:48:59. > :49:03.this journey across to Italy. This is one of the most treacherous

:49:04. > :49:07.journeys in the world and unfortunately, lives will be lost if

:49:08. > :49:12.we do not invest in search and rescue. Changes have been made in

:49:13. > :49:16.policy in the way migrants are handled in European countries to try

:49:17. > :49:24.to limit the numbers who are trying to come to Europe via those routes

:49:25. > :49:28.which are obviously very dangerous. Are the numbers reducing? The

:49:29. > :49:32.numbers are not reducing and what we're seeing is that children are

:49:33. > :49:38.telling us that despite the borders closing, they have no choice, but to

:49:39. > :49:46.tray and make the journey. So children will become more desperate

:49:47. > :49:53.and they will be taking more desperate measures. I was here last

:49:54. > :49:58.year during the shipwreck where 800 people died and only four children

:49:59. > :50:03.survived and that was absolutely heartbreaking for all our agencies

:50:04. > :50:07.that were on the ground and it is, we are very upset that this has

:50:08. > :50:12.happened again and that's why search and rescue missions have to

:50:13. > :50:13.continue. Sarah Tyler from Save The Children,

:50:14. > :50:17.thank you very much. Research suggests a new combination

:50:18. > :50:21.of drugs can destroy the deadliest form of skin cancer

:50:22. > :50:23.even when the disease In a ground-breaking trial people

:50:24. > :50:28.diagnosed with advanced melanoma were treated with a combination

:50:29. > :50:30.of two immunotherapy drugs and two thirds of them survived

:50:31. > :50:35.for at least two years. With me here in the studio

:50:36. > :50:37.are consultant oncologist Professor Martin Gore

:50:38. > :50:39.who ran part of the trial at the Royal Marsden Hospital

:50:40. > :50:43.in London and Dr Aine McCarthy from Cancer Research UK

:50:44. > :50:46.and Jodie Beech was diagnosed with skin cancer in August

:50:47. > :50:48.2014 at the age of 44. She's talking to use

:50:49. > :51:01.from home in Cambridgeshire. Thank you very much for joining us.

:51:02. > :51:05.Professor Martin Gore tell us about the research and how significant you

:51:06. > :51:10.think it could be? Well, had is part of a very exciting on going piece of

:51:11. > :51:15.research that involves two classes of drugs that alter the body's

:51:16. > :51:20.immunity to cancer and putting these two drugs together has made really

:51:21. > :51:28.quite a difference compared to giving the drugs separately. This is

:51:29. > :51:32.a step forward on the road to the therapies being developed. The

:51:33. > :51:37.results when you compare to where we were say ten years ago are really

:51:38. > :51:43.very exciting indeed. So say just ten years ago, 20% of patients with

:51:44. > :51:47.meld nom that spread to internal organs would be alive two years and

:51:48. > :51:52.in this trial, we've got over two-thirds of patients alive at two

:51:53. > :51:55.years. So this is really a very big step forward that we're taking. If

:51:56. > :51:59.this is a combination of two existing drugs and the research is

:52:00. > :52:04.indicating it is working, is it going to be quite easy to roll out?

:52:05. > :52:10.Well, it's already being rolled out as separate drugs. Both of which are

:52:11. > :52:15.very effective in melanoma and there have been trials of giving the drugs

:52:16. > :52:18.sequentially as well as together. The problem with giving the two

:52:19. > :52:23.drugs together is that it can be quite toxic and indeed, about a

:52:24. > :52:27.third of patients are unable to complete treatment because of

:52:28. > :52:33.toxicity even though they gain benefit. What would the impact be of

:52:34. > :52:39.that? I think the impact really is about learning how to handle the

:52:40. > :52:42.side-effects better. What would the side-effects be on patients who are

:52:43. > :52:46.not able to continue with the treatment? The problem is the

:52:47. > :52:52.side-effects relate to how the drug works and in the same way as the

:52:53. > :52:55.drug makes your immune system see the cancer cells as foreign, there

:52:56. > :53:02.is a danger that you also stimulate the immune system to see your organs

:53:03. > :53:05.as foreign so you can get inflammation of lungs, liver, colon,

:53:06. > :53:10.for instance, it can have effects on the hormone system. We have good

:53:11. > :53:13.ways of controlling this and indeed, there is some evidence that if you

:53:14. > :53:18.get those sorts of side-effects you do better than if you get no

:53:19. > :53:23.side-effects at all. So this is really a step on the journey. This

:53:24. > :53:27.is an extraordinarily fast journey in the last five years because these

:53:28. > :53:31.drugs have been developed really very, very quickly. The good news

:53:32. > :53:37.for patients is that these drugs are separately recognised for use in the

:53:38. > :53:44.NHS. And we now need to work on the data to show whether or not it is

:53:45. > :53:49.cost effective to give together. Aine, Martin talking about how fast

:53:50. > :53:52.the journey has been in changing the way skin cancer is being treated.

:53:53. > :53:57.Tell us about your prospective on that from the work you do with the

:53:58. > :54:00.charity? We know that survival rates from melanoma have more than double

:54:01. > :54:04.over the last 40 years and research has been at the heart of this

:54:05. > :54:09.progress. We now have more drugs, we've got targeted therapies that go

:54:10. > :54:13.after specific faults in the DNA and we have immune owe therapy drugs, so

:54:14. > :54:20.we have more weapons in the arsenal to fight this disease, but what

:54:21. > :54:24.Cancer Research UK is doing, we know melanoma can be easily treated if

:54:25. > :54:27.caught at the early stables, but once it spreads to other parts of

:54:28. > :54:30.the body, it becomes more difficult to treat. So we have researchers

:54:31. > :54:35.that are are trying to understand the spread and to see if we can stop

:54:36. > :54:39.it. Let's bring in Jodie. You had skin cancer. Tell us what happened

:54:40. > :54:46.with you. Were you able to spot it easily? Mine was on my left calf and

:54:47. > :54:53.it was a mole that had been with me all my life and I was, I didn't

:54:54. > :55:02.think it was anything to worry about. I went to the doctor's and

:55:03. > :55:08.was referred to someone else and then to the hospital where they

:55:09. > :55:13.diagnosed it. What had happened to it that made concern arise that led

:55:14. > :55:17.to getting it checked out? The shape TV had changed. It just looked like

:55:18. > :55:21.a freckle to begin with it and it just expanded and then the shape of

:55:22. > :55:25.it changed and some darker spots in it and just things like that. You

:55:26. > :55:30.know, you never think it would happen to you and I was like oh no,

:55:31. > :55:36.it is nothing to worry about, but obviously it was. Martin, what is it

:55:37. > :55:43.that leads to a change in an existing mole? On her calf, you

:55:44. > :55:49.wouldn't think in an area that's expose add the time to sunshine? The

:55:50. > :55:56.seeds of melanoma develop with behaviours quite early in life. In

:55:57. > :56:03.fact, the really dangerous period is in children and in childhood and in

:56:04. > :56:09.adolescence, getting sun burnt and for some reason, the exposure to

:56:10. > :56:13.sunlight as a child and as a teenager is particularly damaging

:56:14. > :56:19.later in life because melanoma is very rare in children and there is

:56:20. > :56:24.something about that process of DNA damage from sunlight early in

:56:25. > :56:32.childhood, that causes melanoma later on. Jodie, were you told why

:56:33. > :56:39.potentially that mole did become cancerous for you? No. No, not at

:56:40. > :56:45.all. It just changed quite soon really. It just started, but as you

:56:46. > :56:48.get older, your skin changes anyway, and I thought that was something to

:56:49. > :56:53.do with it, and I'm not particularly a moly person or anything like that.

:56:54. > :56:56.I was just surprised it was cancer really because I didn't, when I

:56:57. > :57:00.looked at it, I didn't think there was really a problem with it. It did

:57:01. > :57:04.surprise me. Because of your experiences, it is something you

:57:05. > :57:11.have become much more aware of. Do you tell friends and family about

:57:12. > :57:15.what you think about the best way for people to protect themselves?

:57:16. > :57:19.Yeah, I would never ever go on a sunbed. I have been on a few times

:57:20. > :57:24.previously, but I'd never go on one now. When we went on holiday last

:57:25. > :57:27.year, it was like factor 50 and sitting in the shade and all that,

:57:28. > :57:30.and people don't think you can enjoy yourself unless you are really brown

:57:31. > :57:35.and sitting in the sun, but you know, you can have just as much fun

:57:36. > :57:38.being covered up and being much more sensible because that's the safest

:57:39. > :57:44.option. So you know, I value my life more than a suntan. That's how I see

:57:45. > :57:47.it now. Jodie, Aine and Martin, thank you

:57:48. > :57:52.very much for joining us. I wanted to bring you some comments on the

:57:53. > :57:55.school choices system that we were talking about earlier. Primary

:57:56. > :58:00.school places announced yesterday and lots of parents not getting

:58:01. > :58:03.their first choice. Alan, "This school choice nonsense should be

:58:04. > :58:08.stopped. All children should go to the school nearest their home."

:58:09. > :58:16.Bernadette on e-mail, "My grandson didn't get into his first choice

:58:17. > :58:22.primary. He is in Year 6 and it is having a knock on effect on his

:58:23. > :58:27.secondary school." Thank you for getting in touch with. Today.