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:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Friday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:11. > :00:16.Patients "still at risk" at Southern Health -

:00:17. > :00:19.that's the conclusion of a damning report into an NHS trust in England

:00:20. > :00:22.where a teenager drowned in the bath.

:00:23. > :00:27.The report is strongly critical of senior management -

:00:28. > :00:37.Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is criticised

:00:38. > :00:39.for failing to deal properly with allegations of

:00:40. > :00:43.He says the escalating row - which has seen former London

:00:44. > :00:45.mayor Ken Livingstone suspended - is not a crisis

:00:46. > :00:47.And how a criminal gang conned pensioners out of hundreds

:00:48. > :00:58.When I first learned I was scammed, I thought, could I live with myself

:00:59. > :01:00.for having lost so much money? And the thought of suicide to pass

:01:01. > :01:11.through my mind. Welcome to the programme,

:01:12. > :01:14.we're live until 11 this morning. Also this morning, is your child due

:01:15. > :01:18.to take their SATs tests soon? Some head teachers have

:01:19. > :01:20.attacked the testing regime for primary schools,

:01:21. > :01:26.calling it chaotic and distracting. The Government says it's vital

:01:27. > :01:28.children master the basics of literacy and numeracy before

:01:29. > :01:31.they start secondary school. Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:32. > :01:36.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive

:01:37. > :01:39.and if you text, you will be charged And don't forget if you've got

:01:40. > :01:43.a story you think we should be Some of our best stories come

:01:44. > :01:47.from you, our viewers. Our top story today...the

:01:48. > :01:49.scandal hit NHS trust, where a teenager drowned

:01:50. > :01:51.in the bath, is still failing to protect patients from the risk

:01:52. > :01:54.of harm, according to the health regulator, the Care

:01:55. > :01:55.Quality Commission. Southern Health has been criticised

:01:56. > :01:57.for failing to investigate The trust's chairman Mike Petter

:01:58. > :02:01.resigned "with great sadness" just hours before

:02:02. > :02:03.the review was published. Here's more from our social affairs

:02:04. > :02:12.correspondent Michael Buchanan. Following each death, Southern

:02:13. > :02:15.Health promised they would learn Today's report from the CQC

:02:16. > :02:19.questions that assertion. Southern Health are failing

:02:20. > :02:29.to protect patients. They are running units that

:02:30. > :02:31.are physically dangerous. Frontline staff are not

:02:32. > :02:37.being supported by management. The organisation does need

:02:38. > :02:40.and deserve a leadership that can What we have shown is that over

:02:41. > :02:47.the past two years that leadership has not been there and has

:02:48. > :02:50.not been demonstrated. Southern Health has been

:02:51. > :02:52.under intense scrutiny since the probe found that it had

:02:53. > :02:56.failed to investigate the deaths The CQC has found that it is still

:02:57. > :03:07.not properly scrutinising deaths. The Trust accept

:03:08. > :03:09.they need to improve. The CQC have given us a really clear

:03:10. > :03:12.message that things need to There are significant concerns

:03:13. > :03:17.that we are taking very seriously. And we are really focused on making

:03:18. > :03:24.the changes that need to be made. The chairman of Southern Health

:03:25. > :03:28.resigned yesterday to allow, he Katrina Percy, the only

:03:29. > :03:31.chief executive the Trust And let's cross live

:03:32. > :03:42.to Michael Buchanan for more on these latest criticisms

:03:43. > :03:54.of Southern Health NHS trust. The chairman has resigned. Are you

:03:55. > :03:58.expecting more fallout from this? I'm not sure if I am expecting it,

:03:59. > :04:07.but there will be an awful lot of questions for Katrina Percy in that

:04:08. > :04:14.piece. The organisation was created in 2011, and they were not -- when

:04:15. > :04:19.the report came out, the trust at that time, when it had not -- why it

:04:20. > :04:22.had not investigated the deaths according to the report was that

:04:23. > :04:27.there was a failure of leadership and governance. At the time, the

:04:28. > :04:32.trust said that we get this, we are improving. The CQ seed then went in

:04:33. > :04:44.in January, and suggested that they were not improving. Another

:04:45. > :04:47.regulator called NHS Improvement brought in an improvement director.

:04:48. > :04:53.He is working with Southern health, but only one day a week, but

:04:54. > :04:57.frankly, with the comments that have come out this morning from the CQ

:04:58. > :05:04.seed, there are a lot of people who say that one man coming in, for one

:05:05. > :05:09.day a week, isn't he not good enough. There will be questions for

:05:10. > :05:13.NHS Improvement today. The former health minister Norman Lamb has said

:05:14. > :05:19.this morning that in his view, the board and management of Are then

:05:20. > :05:24.Health have to go. The argument from Southern Health need to -- is that

:05:25. > :05:33.they need more time. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:05:34. > :05:36.Newsroom and has a summary The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:05:37. > :05:41.is facing more criticism from within his own Shadow Cabinet

:05:42. > :05:49.over his handling of allegations Mr Corbyn has denied

:05:50. > :05:51.Labour's in crisis after the escalating row,

:05:52. > :05:53.which has seen the former London Mayor Ken

:05:54. > :05:57.Livingstone suspended. Shadow Home Secretary, Andy Burnham,

:05:58. > :06:02.has said Jeremy Corbyn didn't act Speaking on the BBC's

:06:03. > :06:05.Question Time, Mr Burnham said the party wasn't anti-semitic

:06:06. > :06:17.but admitted Labour's response had These allegations are not being

:06:18. > :06:22.dealt with quickly enough. They need to be dealt with much more speedily.

:06:23. > :06:24.The second thing I would say is that some people in the party have made

:06:25. > :06:26.anti-Semitic comments. But the Shadow Communities

:06:27. > :06:28.Secretary, Jon Trickett, has insisted that Labour's

:06:29. > :06:30.leadership had dealt Racism has no part in our

:06:31. > :06:46.country and our party. In a progressive party like the

:06:47. > :06:47.Labour Party, it clearly must have no role.

:06:48. > :06:49.By the way, Jeremy Corbyn acted within moments,

:06:50. > :06:55.certainly within a couple of hours of hearing Ken's comments.

:06:56. > :06:57.British cyclist Simon Yates - considered a rising star

:06:58. > :07:00.and possible Olympic contender - has failed a drugs

:07:01. > :07:03.The 23-year-old - seen here on the right -

:07:04. > :07:05.tested positive for a banned substance at the Paris

:07:06. > :07:09.His team say there's been no wrongdoing by the cyclist,

:07:10. > :07:11.and that an "administrative error" over the use of an asthma

:07:12. > :07:14.Head teachers have attacked the government's testing regime

:07:15. > :07:16.for primary schools in England, calling it chaotic and distracting.

:07:17. > :07:18.Gathering for their annual conference in Birmingham,

:07:19. > :07:20.the National Association of Head Teachers said the current

:07:21. > :07:25.system was good for bureaucrats and politicians, but didn't work

:07:26. > :07:32.The government says tests have been updated to reflect a more

:07:33. > :07:35.Our Education Correspondent Robert Pigott reports.

:07:36. > :07:37.Six and seven-year-olds practice maths papers,

:07:38. > :07:40.they're part of formal exams, SATs, designed to measure

:07:41. > :07:41.pupils's ability and progress, but teachers

:07:42. > :07:43.have had not enough time to

:07:44. > :07:45.teach a challenging curriculum, and the children find

:07:46. > :07:56.Many of the children in year two are six years old,

:07:57. > :08:06.and they are just not able and ready for that very formal type of test.

:08:07. > :08:11.They need something very much less structured in that formal manner.

:08:12. > :08:13.Primary school head teachers have criticised what they call

:08:14. > :08:19.The National Association of Head Teachers says the way new tests

:08:20. > :08:22.had been planned and introduced has been littered with mistakes.

:08:23. > :08:26.The conference will include a moratorium on the publication

:08:27. > :08:32.Delegates will also debate calls to reform exams

:08:33. > :08:35.for pupils leaving primary school on the grounds that they harmed

:08:36. > :08:48.But the Department for Education says mastering the basics

:08:49. > :08:51.of literacy and numeracy at primary school has a huge impact

:08:52. > :08:56.It says exams for 11-year-olds have been updated to reflect a more

:08:57. > :08:58.rigourous curriculum which will help all children fulfil their potential.

:08:59. > :09:08.Nine members of a gang who scammed millions of pounds

:09:09. > :09:11.from pensioners are to be sentenced at the Old Bailey today.

:09:12. > :09:13.The perpetrators tricked hundreds of elderly vulnerable people out

:09:14. > :09:16.of their life savings and it's feared some of the money may have

:09:17. > :09:19.been intended to fund the travel of people from the UK to Syria.

:09:20. > :09:21.We'll hear an exclusive interview with one of the victims

:09:22. > :09:29.Investigators examining the death of the musician Prince

:09:30. > :09:31.are reportedly looking at the possibility he overdosed

:09:32. > :09:40.Days before his death last week, his private plane made an emergency

:09:41. > :09:42.landing, so he could receive urgent medical treatment.

:09:43. > :09:44.The Associated Press agency says officials are checking

:09:45. > :09:47.whether a doctor was on the plane, and if Prince had been

:09:48. > :09:48.prescribed painkillers, which may have contributed

:09:49. > :09:53.Hundreds of demonstrators have blocked traffic outside a venue

:09:54. > :09:55.in California where Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump

:09:56. > :10:00.A police car had its windows smashed as Mr Trump spoke inside a hall

:10:01. > :10:06.20 people are reported to have been arrested.

:10:07. > :10:09.The Republican frontrunner, who has vowed to deport millions

:10:10. > :10:10.of illegal immigrants, faces strong opposition

:10:11. > :10:24.in parts of the state, particularly among Latinos.

:10:25. > :10:27.In the next few minutes, we'll have more on the anti-semitism

:10:28. > :10:31.We'll be speaking to a Jewish Labour activist who worked

:10:32. > :10:34.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:10:35. > :10:37.use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and If you text, you will be charged

:10:38. > :11:03.Let's catch up with the sport. Liverpool were so close to that

:11:04. > :11:05.valuable way draw. Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has

:11:06. > :11:07.told Villareal "sorry, but it is not over",

:11:08. > :11:13.after the first leg of their Europa League semi-final

:11:14. > :11:16.ended in a 1-0 victory Liverpool kept it tight

:11:17. > :11:21.until the second minute of injury time, when Adrian Lopez

:11:22. > :11:23.delivered the sucker punch. They meet again at

:11:24. > :11:35.Anfield next Thursday. To be honest, it is the first leg,

:11:36. > :11:40.and might first thinking, when everyone was celebrating around me,

:11:41. > :11:42.I thought, sorry, it is not over, you have to come to Anfield, too. We

:11:43. > :11:44.will be ready. It's all square in the other

:11:45. > :11:46.semi-final, Sevilla earning a 2-2 draw against Shakhtar Donetsk

:11:47. > :11:50.with a late penalty Sevilla could become the first side

:11:51. > :11:54.to lift the trophy Warrington completed

:11:55. > :12:00.a Super League double over Wigan to extend their lead

:12:01. > :12:03.at the top of the table. the Wolves fell behind early

:12:04. > :12:06.on but that's when they "started to turn the volume up" according

:12:07. > :12:09.to coach Tony Smith. They came roaring back,

:12:10. > :12:14.with two tries apiece Warrington are now two points

:12:15. > :12:20.clear of Catalan Dragons, China's Ding Junhui is still

:12:21. > :12:29.on course to become the first Asian winner of the World

:12:30. > :12:35.Snooker Championship. He leads Alan McManus 6-2

:12:36. > :12:37.after firing four centuries to dominate their opening session

:12:38. > :12:39.at the Crucible. They resume at ten o'clock and

:12:40. > :12:42.coverage continues across the BBC. And world number one Mark Selby has

:12:43. > :12:49.the edge over Marco Fu. He leads 5-3 going into their second

:12:50. > :12:52.session at 2.30 this afternoon. These are best-of-33 frame

:12:53. > :12:55.semi-finals, so the first British cycling has been hit by one

:12:56. > :12:59.controversy after another, over the past few days -

:13:00. > :13:01.it's been described as the "week from hell" -

:13:02. > :13:04.but let's not forget the athletes The Tour de Yorkshire starts at 11

:13:05. > :13:17.o'clock, taking in the stunning Bradley Wiggins is the main

:13:18. > :13:20.attraction in the men's race. And tomorrow, history will be made

:13:21. > :13:24.when the women race over the same course as the men, receiving

:13:25. > :13:32.higher prize money too. It is the first time ever that you

:13:33. > :13:37.have the same lame, the same route, the same distance, the same race for

:13:38. > :13:41.men and women. It is a big step forward for cycling, not just for

:13:42. > :13:47.the tour of Yorkshire. We don't know what it will mean for the future,

:13:48. > :13:49.because it is a long way to court -- equality, but it has been a major

:13:50. > :13:55.step. perfectly clear, about the "halo"

:13:56. > :13:59.head protection - But Formula One teams

:14:00. > :14:05.are still trying to improve Daniel Ricciardo and

:14:06. > :14:08.Red Bull have been at the centre of attention

:14:09. > :14:11.during first practice ahead of this They've been trying out a new device

:14:12. > :14:15.- the so called "aeroscreen" is designed to stop debris hitting

:14:16. > :14:17.a driver's head. If this - or the halo -

:14:18. > :14:20.meets the approval of the sport's governing body it could

:14:21. > :14:24.be introduced next A row over anti-Semitism

:14:25. > :14:37.is engulfing the Labour Party, with senior figures including

:14:38. > :14:39.Shadow Home Secretary Andy Burnham saying it's taking too

:14:40. > :14:41.long to kick out members Yesterday, the former London mayor

:14:42. > :14:45.Ken Livingstone was suspended after talking about links

:14:46. > :14:52.between Hitler and Israel. Speaking on Vanessa Feltz's radio

:14:53. > :14:55.show, Mr Livingstone defended the Labour MP Naz Shah over Facebook

:14:56. > :15:05.posts she made about Israel She talked about relocating Israel

:15:06. > :15:12.to America, he talked about what the Jews rallying, not the Israelis or

:15:13. > :15:18.Israel. He did not find that to be anti-Semitic? When Hitler won his

:15:19. > :15:23.election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to

:15:24. > :15:25.Israel. He was supporting Zionism, or he went mad and ended up killing

:15:26. > :15:37.6 million Jews. Ken Livingstone was on his way to do

:15:38. > :15:46.his next interview with BBC News when he was stopped by a Labour MP

:15:47. > :15:51.who called him a Nazi apologist. You are a Nazi apologist. You are right

:15:52. > :15:53.-- you are rewriting history. Go back and check what Hitler did.

:15:54. > :16:15.There is a book called Mein Kampf. There were concentration camps and

:16:16. > :16:20.you were saying that picked a support line is. You have lost it.

:16:21. > :16:28.You need help. Factually wrong, racist remarks. Check your history.

:16:29. > :16:36.That was the policy they ran on. Check my history. You have lost it!

:16:37. > :16:40.Jeremy Corbyn has suspended Ken Livingstone from the party and says

:16:41. > :16:49.he will move quickly to suspend -- to suppress racism. It is not a

:16:50. > :16:58.crisis. Where there is racism, it will be stamped out. I have been an

:16:59. > :17:02.antiracism defender all my life. It has been suggested that the party's

:17:03. > :17:06.reputation is on the line. That is a fear that it held by many of your

:17:07. > :17:11.colleagues at Westminster. Do you suggest there was no crisis to worry

:17:12. > :17:17.about? There is complete tolerance in the Labour Party and there has to

:17:18. > :17:21.be. There has to be an intolerance -- a tolerance of all faiths,

:17:22. > :17:27.communities and points of view. We will not tolerate racism in any

:17:28. > :17:30.form. Let's get more from our correspondent Carole Walker. Jeremy

:17:31. > :17:33.Corbyn says there is no crisis. Their calls from people in the party

:17:34. > :17:41.for tougher action. What will happen next? I think those remarks

:17:42. > :17:45.effectively saying crisis, what crisis, has underlined the concerns

:17:46. > :17:49.many people have under this -- about this. The worry is that he is being

:17:50. > :17:55.slow off the mark. He is reluctant to confront this head-on because of

:17:56. > :17:59.his lifelong support for the -- Palestinian cause. Andy Burnham, the

:18:00. > :18:04.Shadow Home Secretary, said last night that the party could have

:18:05. > :18:07.acted a bit more swiftly on that. Some Labour MPs, people like with

:18:08. > :18:12.street have been far more outspoken, saying he has got to get a grip on

:18:13. > :18:16.this, and indeed this morning we heard senior representatives of the

:18:17. > :18:22.Jewish community saying that he has got to get a grip on this and

:18:23. > :18:26.pointing out that in the past, because Jeremy Corbyn has met people

:18:27. > :18:31.like representatives of her maths and Hezbollah, he needs to do more

:18:32. > :18:36.for up -- to distance himself from this and to show that the party will

:18:37. > :18:41.take action to make sure that there is no room for anti-Semitism. People

:18:42. > :18:44.are worried that it is not good enough just to say there is no room

:18:45. > :18:51.for Andy Semitism, you actually have to show it. What with those who say

:18:52. > :18:55.he needs to get a grip want to see happen? Would that mean expulsion

:18:56. > :18:58.from the party, not suspension? You have got Ken Livingstone suspended

:18:59. > :19:03.facing an investigation over those remarks which you played just a few

:19:04. > :19:08.moments ago. You have also got Naz Shah, the Labour MP, who has been

:19:09. > :19:11.suspended and is being investigated for her Facebook post suggesting

:19:12. > :19:18.that Israel be moved to the United States. Those investigations will,

:19:19. > :19:22.we understand, be carried out by the National executive committee. If

:19:23. > :19:26.there were moves to say, well, actually it wasn't that serious and

:19:27. > :19:30.Ken Livingstone could be a mere -- could be allowed back in, that would

:19:31. > :19:33.go down very badly with some sections of the party. Some senior

:19:34. > :19:37.figures in the saddo cabinet have been really deeply upset by the

:19:38. > :19:41.comments that Ken Livingstone made and by the reaction to it. We have

:19:42. > :19:45.had the deputy leader today suggesting that one needs to happen

:19:46. > :19:49.is perhaps a look at the rules and perhaps a look at a new Code of

:19:50. > :19:54.Conduct, more measures to explicitly say you can't express anti-Semitic

:19:55. > :20:01.views and to explicitly rule that out. If you like, a reassurance

:20:02. > :20:05.because incidents like this which have exploded in the row on the

:20:06. > :20:09.steps of the offices here yesterday are not the first incidents. We had

:20:10. > :20:12.all the allegations of what has happened on university campuses.

:20:13. > :20:15.There is already an enquiry into that. I think there is now real

:20:16. > :20:20.pressure on the leadership of the Labour Party to do something about

:20:21. > :20:24.this. We have very important elections next week. Local

:20:25. > :20:28.elections, elections in Scotland, Wales and London and people are

:20:29. > :20:31.saying that as a test of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership and unless firm

:20:32. > :20:38.action is taken, this whole issue could cost the party a lot more

:20:39. > :20:42.votes and seats at the polls. Joining me in the studio is John

:20:43. > :20:48.Landman, a lump standing Labour Party member who worked on Jeremy

:20:49. > :20:53.Corbyn's election campaign. He called for Ken Livingstone to be

:20:54. > :20:57.suspended. Suspended or expelled? Actually, I didn't call for him to

:20:58. > :21:03.be suspended. I thought he should resign from politics, actually. I

:21:04. > :21:11.think what Ken said was very ill judged, intemperate, wrong and

:21:12. > :21:17.offensive. The trouble is, Ken hasn't really got a role any more

:21:18. > :21:19.but he is still somebody who is invited into TV studios and

:21:20. > :21:23.unfortunately he said some things which were very ill judged and he

:21:24. > :21:30.needs to recognise that it is time for him to move on. One colleague

:21:31. > :21:36.phrase that he was a disgusting Nazi apologist. I don't think Ken is a

:21:37. > :21:42.Nazi apologist and I think that is as unreasonable as what Ken said. I

:21:43. > :21:54.do think he is anti-Semitic. I think he said things without thinking.

:21:55. > :22:03.When they were talking about deporting Jews from Israel... Ken

:22:04. > :22:09.did not say that. Ken said that Hitler supported Zionism. Pickard

:22:10. > :22:13.was not a supporter of Zionism. He was -- Hitler was not a supporter of

:22:14. > :22:20.Zionism. He was responsible for the death of 6 million views. People who

:22:21. > :22:26.are Zionists want a homeland to provide safety. That was the point

:22:27. > :22:30.that Ken Livingstone made though, wasn't it? He said that prior to

:22:31. > :22:36.going mad when he started killing Jews, he wanted Jews to be deported.

:22:37. > :22:39.I think Hitler was always deeply anti-Semitic. There was never a

:22:40. > :22:45.period before he was deeply anti-Semitic. So I actually don't

:22:46. > :22:50.agree with Ken Livingstone saying it is a matter of Hitler going mad.

:22:51. > :22:55.Historically, his analysis is wrong and it was offensive and he needs to

:22:56. > :22:59.move on. I think we also need to recognise in Ken that he is not

:23:00. > :23:05.anti-Semitic. He is not a Nazi apologist. Actually, he did many

:23:06. > :23:13.good things in London. In some ways, he was responsible for raising

:23:14. > :23:22.issues of racism and intolerance of women, of gay people and so on. He

:23:23. > :23:25.has helped to make London comfortable in its modern cultural

:23:26. > :23:30.diversity. Is there a place in the party for him now to come back? As I

:23:31. > :23:35.have said, I think it is time for Ken to move on from politics. But if

:23:36. > :23:41.he is not going to returning from the party, should he be sacked?

:23:42. > :23:46.Sacking him from the party? No, I dig it is time for him to move on

:23:47. > :23:52.from politics and time for him to move on from the National executive

:23:53. > :23:57.committee of the party. If Jeremy Corbyn doesn't take the decision to

:23:58. > :24:02.take firm action and expel him which many are saying is what he should

:24:03. > :24:06.do. Andy Burnham says, no kids, no buts, people who make anti-Semitic

:24:07. > :24:13.comments should be expelled from the party. Doesn't that make him look

:24:14. > :24:16.weak? I don't think that's what this is about. Anti-Semitism is a

:24:17. > :24:23.competent problem. It has been around for a long time. It is not

:24:24. > :24:28.new. -- anti-Semitism is a complicated problem. Society has a

:24:29. > :24:36.problem with anti-Semitism. No particular party... People grow up

:24:37. > :24:41.with prejudices. We have become its own Ken Livingstone and Naz Shah.

:24:42. > :24:51.Should anyone... There are people that have an interest in stoking

:24:52. > :24:54.this row. There is no small coincidence that this have come to

:24:55. > :24:59.light now. What Naz Shah said she said two years ago. There are people

:25:00. > :25:02.at the Tory party who have been trawling Twitter feed is looking for

:25:03. > :25:07.evidence which has been stored until two weeks before the local elections

:25:08. > :25:10.and the London mayoral elections. These are views which have been

:25:11. > :25:14.written about and caused enormous offence. Is there any place in the

:25:15. > :25:20.Labour Party for them? Of course there is no place in the Labour

:25:21. > :25:24.Party for anti-Semitism. Jeremy has always made that clear. Jeremy is

:25:25. > :25:34.anti-racist to his call. The full array which is going on -- lift the

:25:35. > :25:46.euro does not make for rational debate for what is going on. Where

:25:47. > :25:47.we have their review cases of severe anti-Semitism, people exhibiting

:25:48. > :25:54.prejudices, and prejudices are in all of us. We grow up with them, we

:25:55. > :25:58.learn from our friends at school and our workmates. We need to recognise

:25:59. > :26:01.added knowledge that there is anti-Semitism in society, including

:26:02. > :26:05.in all political parties, including in the Labour Party, and we have two

:26:06. > :26:09.deal with it. James has text its own, have the Jewish people not

:26:10. > :26:14.suffered enough in history? Jackie, if remarks made by the Labour Party

:26:15. > :26:17.are to be scrutinised before they took office, surely Jeremy Corbyn

:26:18. > :26:28.should also be scrutinised as he is just as guilty? John's attack on Ken

:26:29. > :26:32.Livingstone was disgusting, not what he said, but the way it happened.

:26:33. > :26:36.John Mann has been called before the Chief Whip to explain his behaviour.

:26:37. > :26:43.Does he have anything to answer for? I think calling Ken a Nazi apologist

:26:44. > :26:47.is discussed is -- is religious -- is ridiculous. The Tories have an

:26:48. > :26:53.interest in soaking up the flames of whatever crisis is here, which I

:26:54. > :26:56.think is largely a crisis of perceptions. So do some people in

:26:57. > :27:02.the Labour Party and I'm afraid John Mann is one of them. He is no

:27:03. > :27:06.supporter of Jeremy Corbyn. Did Jeremy Corbyn say that if Ken

:27:07. > :27:11.Livingstone was to be suspended, John Mann should be suspended to? I

:27:12. > :27:15.haven't heard him say that. Thank you very much. Thank you for your

:27:16. > :27:18.comments. Do keep on getting in touch about everything we are

:27:19. > :27:21.talking about on the programme this morning.

:27:22. > :27:25.It was a scam designed to steal the life savings of hundreds

:27:26. > :27:29.Today, nine men are being sentenced for their role in defrauding 140

:27:30. > :27:31.elderly people out of a total of ?1 million.

:27:32. > :27:34.We speak to one woman who handed over ?130,000 to who she

:27:35. > :27:38.How downloading an app can help tell you if genetically you're more

:27:39. > :27:42.We talk to the doctor who helped design it and who hopes lives

:27:43. > :27:53.We go to the BBC Newsroom for a summary of today's news.

:27:54. > :28:00.Thank you. The NHS Trust which ran one of the biggest care providers in

:28:01. > :28:02.England is continuing to put patients at risk according to the

:28:03. > :28:07.Care Quality Commission. Southern Health has failed to adopt safer the

:28:08. > :28:11.guidelines two and a half years after a teenager died in a bath

:28:12. > :28:14.following an epileptic seizure. That led to an investigation into

:28:15. > :28:18.hundreds of unexplained deaths. Last night, the chairman of the trust

:28:19. > :28:22.resigned. Labour's deputy leader has said a

:28:23. > :28:28.review of the party's procedures will ensure it has a zero tolerance

:28:29. > :28:31.of bases including anti-Semitism. He was speaking after the Shadow Home

:28:32. > :28:35.Secretary Andy Burnham said the leadership had not dealt with such

:28:36. > :28:40.allegations quickly enough. Jeremy Corbyn has denied the party is in

:28:41. > :28:43.crisis after comments made yesterday by Ken Livingstone which led to his

:28:44. > :28:48.suspension. Headteachers have attacked the

:28:49. > :28:52.testing regime for primary schools in England calling it chaotic and

:28:53. > :28:55.distracting. Gathering for the annual conference in Birmingham, the

:28:56. > :28:58.National Association of Head Teachers said the current system is

:28:59. > :29:02.good for bureaucrats and politicians but doesn't work for peoples or

:29:03. > :29:08.teachers. The government said tests have been updated to reflect a more

:29:09. > :29:13.rigorous curriculum. Investigators looking into the death

:29:14. > :29:18.of Prince are looking into the possibility that he overdosed on

:29:19. > :29:23.production drugs. Last week, his -- the week before his death, his plane

:29:24. > :29:27.made an emergency landing so he could receive treatment. They are

:29:28. > :29:34.checking if a doctor was on the plane and if Prince was prescribed

:29:35. > :29:39.painkillers which could have contributed to his death.

:29:40. > :29:45.Hundreds of demonstrators have gathered where Donald Trump is

:29:46. > :29:50.making a speech. A police car had its windows smashed and 20 people

:29:51. > :29:54.are reported to have been arrested. He faces strong opposition in parts

:29:55. > :29:58.of the state, particularly among Latinos. That is a summary of the

:29:59. > :30:01.latest BBC News. More from me at 10am.

:30:02. > :30:05.Time for the sports headlines now with Jessica.

:30:06. > :30:10.Good morning. The British cyclist Simon Yates is not to blame for

:30:11. > :30:16.failing a drug test according to his team. He is from the Orica GreenEdge

:30:17. > :30:21.team and he has taken -- and they have taken responsibility saying

:30:22. > :30:25.they failed to complete an exception for for his asthma. He is in

:30:26. > :30:33.contention to ride for Team GB at the Olympics in Rio.

:30:34. > :30:35.Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has warned Villareal

:30:36. > :30:37.that their Europa League semi-final tie is not over, despite losing

:30:38. > :30:40.the first leg in Spain after an injury-time goal.

:30:41. > :30:44.They meet again at Anfield next Thursday.

:30:45. > :30:47.Ding Junhui rattled off four century breaks in the opening session

:30:48. > :30:49.of his World Snooker semi-final - he leads Alan McManus

:30:50. > :30:53.Ding is on course to become the first Asian winner of the title.

:30:54. > :30:56.Mark Selby is 5-3 up against Marco Fu in the other semi.

:30:57. > :30:58.And the latest attempt to improve driver safety

:30:59. > :31:01.in Formula One is on trial ahead of the Russian Grand Prix.

:31:02. > :31:03.The "aeroscreen" is designed to deflect debris.

:31:04. > :31:05.Nico Rosberg finished fastest in first practice,

:31:06. > :31:13."The thought of suicide crossed my mind".

:31:14. > :31:15.Those are the haunting words of Elizabeth Curtis who became

:31:16. > :31:18.a victim of a million pound scam by a gang being sentenced

:31:19. > :31:21.The perpetrators tricked hundreds of elderly vulnerable people out

:31:22. > :31:24.of their life savings and it's feared some of the money may have

:31:25. > :31:30.been intended to fund the travel of people from the UK to Syria.

:31:31. > :31:33.Nine members of the gang are facing sentencing today for their part

:31:34. > :31:38.In a moment we'll hear an exclusive interview with one of the victims.

:31:39. > :33:22.First let's see how the scammers lured the elderly into their trap.

:33:23. > :33:25.Ahead of today's sentencing, June Kelly spoke exclusively

:33:26. > :33:27.to Elizabeth Curtis, an elderly victim from Cornwall.

:33:28. > :33:30.She doesn't want her face shown, but she does want to talk

:33:31. > :33:43.about the devastating impact the scam has had on her life.

:33:44. > :33:49.I had a ring at the doorbell one afternoon and it was a policeman.

:33:50. > :33:56.And I thought, why has a policeman come to see me?

:33:57. > :33:59.And he told me that I had been scammed.

:34:00. > :34:20.I felt stupid, sick, I could not believe I had been taken in.

:34:21. > :34:24.He told me to go to my banks and transfer so much money

:34:25. > :34:30.by instant transfers into named accounts.

:34:31. > :34:34.He told me the transfers would be in small amounts so it would not

:34:35. > :34:42.In all I went to the banks, made eight transactions and put

:34:43. > :34:47.But he told me that if I was asked any questions, to say

:34:48. > :35:04.Just describe when you went into your banks to withdraw

:35:05. > :35:08.I had the name of the account, sort code, and the account number.

:35:09. > :35:11.And I just asked to transfer by instant transfer the amount that

:35:12. > :35:32.I think I was only asked once who the money was for.

:35:33. > :35:36.I came out of the banks very relieved that they had not

:35:37. > :35:39.actually asked me a lot of questions because I did not

:35:40. > :35:44.Can you describe when you went into those banks, how much

:35:45. > :35:48.Can you just talk me through the transactions?

:35:49. > :35:51.Well in theory, sometimes it was ?20,000, and I think ?12,500.

:35:52. > :35:53.And nobody said to you, why are you withdrawing

:35:54. > :35:59.There was only one name that could have been British, the others

:36:00. > :36:04.So did anybody ask you at all about why you needed it?

:36:05. > :36:06.Not when I was making the transactions.

:36:07. > :36:10.I was only asked and I think it was general talk when I had to go

:36:11. > :36:18.And I think the cashier there was she was on the phone

:36:19. > :36:21.to the branch, she asked me one or two questions about

:36:22. > :36:29.Well I said, my nephew, and I said, he is having

:36:30. > :36:33.And they said, what sort of work does he do?

:36:34. > :36:36.And I had to make up on the spot that he was in business.

:36:37. > :36:39.I cannot think of anything more definite.

:36:40. > :36:45.They maybe believe it was the bank staff who were defrauding me.

:36:46. > :37:14.The terrorists training and coming back to Britain or other countries,

:37:15. > :37:18.Europe, blowing people up and that sort of thing.

:37:19. > :37:32.When I first learned that I was scammed I thought,

:37:33. > :37:40.And the thought of suicide did pass through my mind.

:37:41. > :37:43.But then I realised it wasn't the answer.

:37:44. > :37:50.I have lost all faith in my own judgment.

:37:51. > :37:56.I find it hard to trust people again.

:37:57. > :37:59.Without the help of friends and families I do not think

:38:00. > :38:15.Who are genuinely vulnerable, elderly people and some of whom have

:38:16. > :38:26.This career scam has been going on 2011 and yet very little

:38:27. > :38:31.I was only asked once at NatWest who the money was for.

:38:32. > :38:43.Santander obviously became suspicious enough to

:38:44. > :38:49.But they did not inform me or stop me from making

:38:50. > :38:55.I therefore believe that the banks are liable and I should have

:38:56. > :39:03.NatWest and Santander gave me back a certain amount

:39:04. > :39:18.I feel the banks should have reimbursed the full amount.

:39:19. > :39:22.We made appeals to the banks and we did not get any joy there.

:39:23. > :39:26.So we appealed to the financial ombudsman, without success.

:39:27. > :39:33.It could be small claims court, or more legal action,

:39:34. > :39:39.which I'm not too keen to go forward on.

:39:40. > :39:43.Other than that I think we have come to a full stop as far

:39:44. > :39:52.The reasons I am doing this interview, to make the public more

:39:53. > :40:00.And not only this scam, other scams that occur.

:40:01. > :40:07.Many innocent, vulnerable, elderly people have been, and are,

:40:08. > :40:10.unwittingly becoming victims of what is a very

:40:11. > :40:18.I hope the sentences given today will bring some sort of closure

:40:19. > :40:36.Here in the studio to discuss the scam is Caroline Wayman,

:40:37. > :40:38.the Chief Executive of the Financial Ombudsman,

:40:39. > :40:40.Steve Profitt, Deputy Head of Action Fraud, and Katy Worobec,

:40:41. > :40:49.Director of Financial Fraud Action UK.

:40:50. > :40:54.Elizabeth Curtis turned to the Osburn -- ombudsman to try and get

:40:55. > :40:58.the money back. Why did she not get it back? We looked at the case, and

:40:59. > :41:02.we have to look at whether the banks have caused or contributed to the

:41:03. > :41:07.loss. In this particular case, we've got but overall, the banks had acted

:41:08. > :41:12.fairly, so unfortunately, she was -- we were unable to make any award in

:41:13. > :41:17.her favour. Some of the money was given back as a goodwill gesture.

:41:18. > :41:21.What is your view of the banks on their duty of care and more

:41:22. > :41:25.responsible duty to their customers that -- customers? We do see

:41:26. > :41:31.instances where the banks give goodwill gestures, and sometimes

:41:32. > :41:35.that is appropriate. We also see cases where the banks have not acted

:41:36. > :41:38.fairly, and we can award against them, but it is important that we

:41:39. > :41:42.look at the individual circumstances and look at what has happened. If

:41:43. > :41:46.the banks have not done anything wrong, then on the whole, it would

:41:47. > :41:52.not be fair for the ombudsman to make the award. How much would you

:41:53. > :41:57.expect banks to do when money is going out of the account in the

:41:58. > :42:00.short space of time? It can be difficult, and sometimes it does

:42:01. > :42:06.tackle -- trigger alerts. Sometimes, the bankers have said, are you sure,

:42:07. > :42:14.are you sure, are you sure? As the lady there was describing, they have

:42:15. > :42:18.been persuaded that the bank note, but however much the bank

:42:19. > :42:26.intervenes, they persist. It is that having good procedures to have money

:42:27. > :42:31.moved in the way they want to. But it is important that we raise

:42:32. > :42:35.awareness of the sorts of scams. The banks will have a part to play, and

:42:36. > :42:40.conversations like this are very helpful when things like this

:42:41. > :42:45.happen. Katie, you effectively represent the banks. ?100,000 was

:42:46. > :42:52.transferred out of Elizabeth's accounts to four different accounts

:42:53. > :42:58.over five days. What systems are in place to raise flags? It is a

:42:59. > :43:02.complex thing, because there are millions of genuine transactions

:43:03. > :43:07.going through the day. At any given day. It is difficult for the banks

:43:08. > :43:12.to spot any individual transactions and say that as a fraudulent one,

:43:13. > :43:19.say that is a scam. But there are methods in place, and the banks are

:43:20. > :43:25.effectively stop at seven in every ?10 of attempted fraud last year. As

:43:26. > :43:29.Caroline said, a lot of this is about people being aware of these

:43:30. > :43:36.scams existing, and I think the lady who has had the bravery to give her

:43:37. > :43:43.story, is going to really help raise the awareness not fall into this

:43:44. > :43:46.trap. You can see, hearing what happened, how easy it was to fall

:43:47. > :43:52.into a trap like that. This fraud only works because she was cold

:43:53. > :43:58.called at home. She was totally unaware that when you are called at

:43:59. > :44:04.home, when you hang up, the phone line is still open. When she has

:44:05. > :44:08.made the contact to verify the details of the fraudsters, she still

:44:09. > :44:13.talking to the fraudsters. She is not talking to the police. Once you

:44:14. > :44:20.have passed that step, you will do anything, because she firmly

:44:21. > :44:24.believed that she was working on the behalf of the police. That is the

:44:25. > :44:28.difficulty. This is a scam that went on for some time, got a lot of

:44:29. > :44:33.money. A lot of people caught up in it. The police and banks were not

:44:34. > :44:40.aware some time. Why not? Because she is going along with the scam. It

:44:41. > :44:43.is only as a result of investigations in relation to other

:44:44. > :44:49.victims of theirs who have come forward that they were able to

:44:50. > :44:53.contact her, approach her, and inform her that this was a scam. How

:44:54. > :44:58.sophisticated scams getting? Are they more sophisticated than they

:44:59. > :45:02.were? Incredibly more sophisticated. Roast -- fraudsters are using

:45:03. > :45:08.technology to enable them to commit these frauds. Fishing e-mails with

:45:09. > :45:12.links, with data fields that you can fill in, or attachments that do

:45:13. > :45:17.nasty things to your computer. Is it always easy to spot if something

:45:18. > :45:28.comes in and it is unsolicited? That is obvious. But there are things

:45:29. > :45:32.that are much more difficult. a Queen 's it used to be easy to spot

:45:33. > :45:37.because with a look at the spelling, look at the grammar, but that has

:45:38. > :45:41.gone. They are cutting and pasting headings on genuine e-mails. They

:45:42. > :45:45.looked genuine. All we can say is, your bank will never ask you for

:45:46. > :45:50.these details, so don't fill them in. Any doubt at all, please phone

:45:51. > :45:55.the number on the back of your banking card and asked to talk to

:45:56. > :45:59.the fraud department. Yet advice and guidance from them before you do

:46:00. > :46:04.anything and definitely don't click on links in e-mails or open up

:46:05. > :46:07.attachments at all. Caroline, how many people are coming to the

:46:08. > :46:12.ombudsman having lost money through fraud and trying to get it back? It

:46:13. > :46:18.is definitely something we have seen more of. We have seen 400 of these

:46:19. > :46:22.cases, more than 400. It is important to say it is not just

:46:23. > :46:26.people who are vulnerable. Anybody can fall for these things. The

:46:27. > :46:31.techniques are very sophisticated and it is very easy to be taken in

:46:32. > :46:35.and very often people say I felt embarrassed, ashamed. That is why it

:46:36. > :46:39.is so important to talk about it and I hope people feel able to come

:46:40. > :46:42.forward. It is important to take action as soon as possible. If you

:46:43. > :46:47.think something has happened, don't wait. Take action as soon as you

:46:48. > :46:55.can. Are any prosecution is happening? In terms of cases in

:46:56. > :46:58.proportion to the prosecutions. There are more and more

:46:59. > :47:04.prosecutions. This is a very sad story but from a law enforcement

:47:05. > :47:08.perspective, it is a good use story, because the bureau has been able to

:47:09. > :47:11.link these cases together and we have a successful prosecution here

:47:12. > :47:18.and these criminals will be sentenced today, hopefully put in

:47:19. > :47:23.prison. It is improving. It is increasing. But as Caroline said, we

:47:24. > :47:26.need people not to be afraid to reported so we've got the full

:47:27. > :47:33.intelligence picture. We can link all of this together. When something

:47:34. > :47:35.happens, Katie, and money is transferred and it's discovered that

:47:36. > :47:41.it's gone fortunately, can the banks not get it back? It sounds simple,

:47:42. > :47:45.doesn't it, but money moves very quickly. It is split into smaller

:47:46. > :47:50.amounts and moved out of the country. It can happen in seconds.

:47:51. > :47:54.It sounds simple but it doesn't fit in an account and wait for us to go

:47:55. > :47:58.and find it and that is why it is a complex criminal issue. In this

:47:59. > :48:04.particular case, you mention the fact that the phone line was kept

:48:05. > :48:15.open. This seems to be an obviously poll that could be tackled quite

:48:16. > :48:20.easily, couldn't it? You are totally right with that. When this case was

:48:21. > :48:24.perpetrated, the phone line was opened for 20 seconds. That had been

:48:25. > :48:28.reduced from 20 minutes to 20 seconds. Working collectively

:48:29. > :48:32.together, that has been reduced to only a couple of seconds and we are

:48:33. > :48:36.hopeful that very, very shortly that will be reduced to zero. When that

:48:37. > :48:41.happens, fraudsters will not be able to commit this type of fraud. But

:48:42. > :48:45.clearly they will evolve into a new method of getting your money in the

:48:46. > :48:51.right circumstances. They will not be able to use the landline phone

:48:52. > :48:55.that is left open. Is there a profile of a typical victim? Because

:48:56. > :48:59.you were talking about how frauds have become ever more sophisticated.

:49:00. > :49:02.It used to be that maybe some people would be dismissive and say, I

:49:03. > :49:08.wouldn't fall for that, it is obvious, but it is not always so

:49:09. > :49:13.obvious. Can anyone fall victim now? Anyone can be a victim of fraud.

:49:14. > :49:22.Absolutely anybody, any age. Is that what you are seeing? It is what we

:49:23. > :49:25.are seeing. Specific fraud is targeted at demographics. This

:49:26. > :49:29.particular one was targeted at the elderly, retired people, but we have

:49:30. > :49:31.seen this exact scam with other people of different age groups,

:49:32. > :49:37.different demographics. Anybody can be conned into it. Katie, do the

:49:38. > :49:43.banks not have an insurance to cover when money is lost as to mark that

:49:44. > :49:47.they're not pay out on that basis? It is really difficult because every

:49:48. > :49:53.case is different. You are looking at a really sophisticated criminal

:49:54. > :49:57.gang. What we would think is the best thing is to raise awareness of

:49:58. > :50:02.this type of crime, so we are working with the task force, with

:50:03. > :50:05.law enforcement, with government to look at the vulnerabilities around

:50:06. > :50:09.this type of crime and we have our own police unit looking at this type

:50:10. > :50:14.of crime and we are launching in September a large-scale awareness

:50:15. > :50:19.campaign to raise the profile of this type of fraud. Thank you all

:50:20. > :50:21.very much. Let us know if you have fallen victim to fraud. Get in touch

:50:22. > :50:27.and all the normal ways. One of the country's biggest mental

:50:28. > :50:30.health trusts is putting patients 'at risk' and not protecting

:50:31. > :50:32.them properly according We speak to one father

:50:33. > :50:36.who lost his son whilst he was under One in two people in the UK

:50:37. > :50:44.will get cancer at some Now, it's hoped a new app will help

:50:45. > :50:51.provide quicker access to life saving treatment for the three

:50:52. > :50:54.in every 100 of those cases that are passed down

:50:55. > :50:57.through someone's genes. The App was developed

:50:58. > :51:00.after referrals to the clinical genetics service at Guy's

:51:01. > :51:03.and St Thomas' Hospital in London doubled when actress Angelina Jolie

:51:04. > :51:07.announced she carried the inherited BRCA1 gene mutation and had

:51:08. > :51:09.undergone a preventative Here to explain how the app works

:51:10. > :51:16.is its creator Dr Anju Kulkarni. Also with us this morning

:51:17. > :51:19.is Kenisha McGregor - who was diagnosed with breast cancer

:51:20. > :51:22.in 2013 and was found to carry the BRCA1 gene mutation

:51:23. > :51:26.when she was referred to Guy's She says she would have

:51:27. > :51:37.benefited from the App, Thank you both for coming in.

:51:38. > :51:50.Doctor, you work involved in developing this app. Why did you

:51:51. > :51:53.want to be involved? We know that genetics can be involved in

:51:54. > :51:58.developing cancer and this is about giving tools to people to show those

:51:59. > :52:03.who can be at risk of developing cancer. Those that are at risk, can

:52:04. > :52:06.develop different types of cancer possibly at younger ages. It is

:52:07. > :52:10.important to identify those people so they have access to prevention

:52:11. > :52:16.and screening and surgical options if they don't have cancer. Also,

:52:17. > :52:23.there are new drug treatment and therapies for those with an

:52:24. > :52:31.inherited full of cancer. Is it not easy to spot? It is about giving the

:52:32. > :52:34.tools to spot the red flags, the warning signs that might make them

:52:35. > :52:40.think about this person might be at risk and we need to refer them. More

:52:41. > :52:43.importantly, also to be able to reassure people who aren't at risk

:52:44. > :52:46.because there has been a growing awareness of the risk of inherited

:52:47. > :52:52.cancer over the last few years. We've had an increasing number of

:52:53. > :52:58.referrals to our department. Because of Angelina Jolie? Because of the

:52:59. > :53:02.Angelina Jolie effect. There are almost 2000 referrals to our

:53:03. > :53:09.department now. So that is people who are not showing symptoms? Or

:53:10. > :53:13.people with cancer who are worried about other members of their family

:53:14. > :53:17.as well. Doctors do ask about family history, don't they, so what is

:53:18. > :53:22.going wrong with the system at the moment? I think it is about access

:53:23. > :53:25.to current guidance, really. The guidance is a rapidly evolving area

:53:26. > :53:32.and we are learning a lot more about what patients should be. Should they

:53:33. > :53:38.be eligible for early testing, screening? It is about access to

:53:39. > :53:41.that guidance. A lot of clinicians are busy. GPs and doctors in the

:53:42. > :53:45.hospital who maybe don't have time to look up published guidance and

:53:46. > :53:48.the new published literature. This is about giving them something at

:53:49. > :53:52.their fingertips that they can use with the patient in the clinic,

:53:53. > :53:55.though through a series of questions about their family history, medical

:53:56. > :53:59.history, give them a risk assessment and either be able to reassure them

:54:00. > :54:06.or say, actually, I think we need to refer you onto specialist services.

:54:07. > :54:18.You were diagnosed with breast cancer in 2013 you had BRCA1 gene

:54:19. > :54:24.mutation. Had he been aware of that? We had a strong history of breast

:54:25. > :54:32.cancer in my family and 80 months right to my -- 18 months prior to my

:54:33. > :54:36.diagnosis, I found a lump and was referred, where I was told there was

:54:37. > :54:39.nothing wrong. I was given the option of going to a specialist

:54:40. > :54:43.clinic and run the risk assessment when it I was told I had a moderate

:54:44. > :54:50.risk to developing breast cancer because of my family history. You at

:54:51. > :55:00.that stage knew that you had the BRCA1 Jean, did you? I was not

:55:01. > :55:04.offering genetic testing at the time -- offered genetic testing at the

:55:05. > :55:09.time because of the nice guidelines at the time but 18 months later when

:55:10. > :55:11.I was diagnosed, I was given the opportunity to go for genetic

:55:12. > :55:17.testing which proved that we did have the BRCA1 in the family.

:55:18. > :55:21.Potentially, if the ad had been available 18 months prior to one I

:55:22. > :55:27.was diagnosed, it could have made a significant difference to me. You

:55:28. > :55:29.could have discovered that you had a greater risks are you could have had

:55:30. > :55:36.preventative surgery rather than treatment? Absolutely. How would you

:55:37. > :55:42.have reacted to that, do you think? That resource. Dilemmas out there

:55:43. > :55:49.that aren't there -- that throws all sorts of dilemmas out there until

:55:50. > :55:54.you have had something confirmed? We always thought there was something

:55:55. > :55:57.genetic in the family. Had I had the opportunity to have genetic testing

:55:58. > :56:04.18 months earlier, I believe I would have explored that. Definitely. How

:56:05. > :56:07.helpful if it for people to be tested? What is your perspective on

:56:08. > :56:10.that because obviously it does throughout dilemmas for families

:56:11. > :56:16.when they know that this gene is within the Amelie of how to deal

:56:17. > :56:21.with that? It is about making informed choices about the future.

:56:22. > :56:30.Please spell out what the BRCA1 gene means for your chances? They are at

:56:31. > :56:36.much higher risks of breast cancer or ovarian cancer if a woman carries

:56:37. > :56:45.the BRCA1 gene. Those risks can be up to 80% for breast cancer over a

:56:46. > :56:50.woman's lifetime, and 50% of ovarian cancer, compared to a 12% risk of

:56:51. > :56:53.breast cancer in the general population and a 2% risk of ovarian

:56:54. > :57:04.cancer. We know now that patients with cancer who carried the BRCA1

:57:05. > :57:10.gene, Errani therapy such -- there are new therapies which target those

:57:11. > :57:12.genes specifically. There are the mastectomies, early surveillance

:57:13. > :57:18.that can be put into place for women as well. Yes, it can be difficult

:57:19. > :57:22.for families to come to terms with the knowledge that there could be an

:57:23. > :57:25.inherited risk, but it is about empowering people to make informed

:57:26. > :57:29.decisions and giving them control over sometimes what can be a burden

:57:30. > :57:35.of cancer in the family. Thank you both very much.

:57:36. > :57:41.Let's just bring you some comments on the conversation we just had

:57:42. > :57:47.about that and that's all pensioners defrauded to the tune of 100 -- of

:57:48. > :57:50.?1 million, 140 of them losing out. Emily says, why would someone move

:57:51. > :57:55.their money into someone else's account? Someone else says, for all

:57:56. > :58:01.those clever clogs who say why did she get taken in, have you watched

:58:02. > :58:06.the video? She is the older who probably don't know about scams and

:58:07. > :58:11.is brought up to respect a policeman and thought her money was in danger

:58:12. > :58:15.and felt vulnerable. Someone else said, she got in touch and it's very

:58:16. > :58:20.sad but why didn't she go to the police station to check? A tweet

:58:21. > :58:25.says I'm a heartbreaking. Someone else there is, surely the bank

:58:26. > :58:28.should pay back the money if they have authorised it and she has been

:58:29. > :58:33.scammed? Two other people say the woman needs to take responsibility

:58:34. > :58:43.for her own actions and not blame others for her naivete. Now let's

:58:44. > :58:47.catch up with the weather. Well, it is made this weekend but we are

:58:48. > :58:53.still talking about wintry weather. Snow is falling again across parts

:58:54. > :58:55.of the United Kingdom. We have had some spectacular pictures. There is

:58:56. > :59:01.eight centimetres of snow lying here. Other places also showing an

:59:02. > :59:06.impressive covering. Heavy snowfalls overnight and three this morning

:59:07. > :59:11.means issues on the roads in and around parts of Yorkshire and

:59:12. > :59:13.Scotland. It is not just Yorkshire and southern Scotland either. The

:59:14. > :59:19.Highlands have seen heavy snow falling as well. Across the

:59:20. > :59:23.Highlands, the snow showers are fading away but still got some

:59:24. > :59:27.problems across parts of south-east Gotland in particular and parts of

:59:28. > :59:34.northern England. Someone in force from the Met office. -- some

:59:35. > :59:39.warnings in force. Please use your local radio station for further

:59:40. > :59:44.information. This shows the rain, in blue, and the snow, in white. We are

:59:45. > :59:50.seeing snow mostly over higher ground, but the hills are not that

:59:51. > :59:54.big. There will also be strong winds for the next few hours. The far

:59:55. > :59:58.north of England stays wet and cold all day. Elsewhere, quite a lot of

:59:59. > :00:04.sunshine around with some stands -- some showers developing through the

:00:05. > :00:08.day. There will at least be some sunshine in between and when the sun

:00:09. > :00:12.pops out, we should get to double figures. These temperatures well

:00:13. > :00:16.below average for the time of year. In for a cold day in Scotland and

:00:17. > :00:22.northern England. The wet weather will fade and the showers fade from

:00:23. > :00:28.elsewhere, with a clean, clear night leaving us in a cold one. Rural

:00:29. > :00:33.areas will be below freezing. Darkness, take note of that. Into

:00:34. > :00:39.the long weekend and the low-pressure is moving out and we

:00:40. > :00:41.are between weather systems. Saturday morning should be a

:00:42. > :00:46.sparkling start to the long weekend. It will be cold but sunny. The cloud

:00:47. > :00:50.bubbles up at the showers get going. Not as many as today and not as

:00:51. > :00:55.wintry. Temperatures were widely getting into double digits. It gets

:00:56. > :00:58.more mild again on Sunday, with the south-eastern quarter staying dry,

:00:59. > :01:02.elsewhere with wind and rain picking up. Look at the numbers,

:01:03. > :01:06.temperatures into double figures across the land. More mild steel

:01:07. > :01:14.into bank holiday Monday. There will be rain around but probably only

:01:15. > :01:18.bits and bobs before it turns brighter behind them. Crucially,

:01:19. > :01:22.after such a cold week, it will be a lot milder. Some sunshine, yes there

:01:23. > :01:26.will be some rain, but overall, given the wintry nature of the

:01:27. > :01:27.weather at the moment, an improvement this weekend. Starting

:01:28. > :01:34.to feel a little bit like May. Hello, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:01:35. > :01:36.welcome to the programme Patients of one of the country's

:01:37. > :01:41.biggest mental health trusts are 'at risk' and are not

:01:42. > :01:43.being properly protected properly because of poor

:01:44. > :01:44.management decisions. We hear from a father

:01:45. > :01:47.who lost his son whilst he was under Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn says

:01:48. > :01:52.everything is under control - despite strong criticism from senior

:01:53. > :01:54.Labour figures for his handling of allegations of anti-semitism

:01:55. > :01:59.within the party. Now Labour's deputy leader says

:02:00. > :02:05.the party's rules could be changed. Are tests to assess 6 and 7 year

:02:06. > :02:08.olds too high pressure Some parents feel so strongly

:02:09. > :02:11.they're taking their kids out We'll be discussing it with parents,

:02:12. > :02:30.teachers and test supporters. We go to the BBC Newsroom

:02:31. > :02:34.for a summary of today's news. The NHS trust which ran one

:02:35. > :02:37.of the biggest care providers in England is "continuing to put

:02:38. > :02:39.patients at risk", according to the health regulator,

:02:40. > :02:43.the Care Quality Commission. Southern Health has failed

:02:44. > :02:45.to adopt safer guidelines two-and-a-half years

:02:46. > :02:50.after a teenager drowned in a bath That led to an investigation

:02:51. > :02:55.into hundreds of unexplained deaths. Last night, the chairman

:02:56. > :02:59.of the trust resigned. Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson

:03:00. > :03:01.has said a review of the party's rules and procedures will ensure it

:03:02. > :03:06.has a zero-tolerance of racism, He was speaking after

:03:07. > :03:11.the Shadow Home Secretary, Andy Burnham, said the leadership

:03:12. > :03:14.had not dealt with such Jeremy Corbyn has denied Labour's

:03:15. > :03:17.in crisis after the escalating row, over comments made

:03:18. > :03:19.yesterday by the former London Mayor Ken Livingstone,

:03:20. > :03:26.which has led to his suspension. John Landman is a Labour Party

:03:27. > :03:32.activist. He believes that it is time for Mr Livingstone to resign. I

:03:33. > :03:40.think what Ken said was very ill judged, intemperate, wrong, and

:03:41. > :03:46.offensive. And I think the trouble is, Ken does not have a role any

:03:47. > :03:49.more, but he is still someone who is invited into TV studios, and he said

:03:50. > :03:52.some things which were very ill judged. He needs to recognise that

:03:53. > :03:56.it is time for him to move on. Nine members of a gang

:03:57. > :03:58.who scammed millions of pounds from pensioners are to be sentenced

:03:59. > :04:01.at the Old Bailey today. The men tricked more

:04:02. > :04:05.than 100 elderly and vulnerable people out of their life savings

:04:06. > :04:08.and it's feared some of the money may have been intended to fund

:04:09. > :04:10.the travel of people One victim told this

:04:11. > :04:20.programme the impact the scam When I first learned that I was

:04:21. > :04:26.scammed, I thought, could I live with myself, fought having lost so

:04:27. > :04:30.much money? And the thought of suicide did pass through my mind.

:04:31. > :04:38.But then I realised, it was not the answer. I still feel traumatised, or

:04:39. > :04:44.have lost all faith in my own judgment, I find it hard to trust

:04:45. > :04:46.people again without the help of friends and family I don't think I

:04:47. > :04:48.could have got through. Head teachers have attacked

:04:49. > :04:50.the government's testing regime for primary schools in England,

:04:51. > :04:53.calling it chaotic and distracting. Gathering for their annual

:04:54. > :04:55.conference in Birmingham, the National Association

:04:56. > :04:56.of Head Teachers said the current system was good

:04:57. > :04:58.for bureaucrats and politicians, but didn't work for

:04:59. > :05:01.pupils or teachers. The government says tests have been

:05:02. > :05:04.updated to reflect a more Investigators examining the death

:05:05. > :05:09.of the musician Prince are reportedly looking

:05:10. > :05:11.at the possibility he overdosed Days before his death last

:05:12. > :05:15.week, his private plane made an emergency landing,

:05:16. > :05:18.so he could receive The Associated Press agency says

:05:19. > :05:27.officials are checking whether a doctor was on the plane,

:05:28. > :05:30.and if Prince had been prescribed painkillers, which may have

:05:31. > :05:32.contributed to his death. Hundreds of demonstrators have

:05:33. > :05:34.blocked traffic outside a venue in California where Republican

:05:35. > :05:36.presidential hopeful Donald Trump A police car

:05:37. > :05:43.had its windows smashed as Mr Trump spoke inside a hall

:05:44. > :05:46.in the Orange County Fairgrounds. 20 people are reported

:05:47. > :05:48.to have been arrested. The Republican frontrunner,

:05:49. > :05:50.who has vowed to deport millions of illegal immigrants,

:05:51. > :05:52.faces strong opposition in parts of the state, particularly

:05:53. > :05:54.among Latinos. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:55. > :06:02.News - more at 10.30. Thanks for your comments on SATS

:06:03. > :06:05.tests for primary school children. We'll be discussing the tests

:06:06. > :06:14.a little later this hour. Maria got in touch to say -

:06:15. > :06:17."Please let kids be kids. They learn much more

:06:18. > :06:19.through play and discovery. No wonder mental health

:06:20. > :06:22.is on the rise in youngsters." And Emma texted to say -

:06:23. > :06:24."Training children for tests wastes SATs tests are a political

:06:25. > :06:29.tool and nothing more." Do get in touch with us

:06:30. > :06:34.throughout the morning - use the hashtag and if you text,

:06:35. > :06:36.you will be charged Sport now with Jessica -

:06:37. > :06:40.and you have an update on the so-called "week from hell"

:06:41. > :06:52.in British cycling - A terrible week. British cycling has

:06:53. > :06:58.been hit by one controversy after another. It has been described as

:06:59. > :07:04.the week from hell. Today, we have news that Simon Yates has failed a

:07:05. > :07:13.drugs test. Simon Brotherton joins us now. What can you tell us about

:07:14. > :07:18.the latest of the situation? His team have been very quick to issue a

:07:19. > :07:25.statement claiming that it is their fault, not his. We are talking about

:07:26. > :07:33.something that is called terbutaline. It is used to treat

:07:34. > :07:39.asthma. Crucially, they have not applied for what is eight TUV, a

:07:40. > :07:45.therapeutic exemption certificate. They are claiming it is an

:07:46. > :07:48.administrative area, and the person involved takes full response

:07:49. > :07:59.Bonucci. Simon Yates is a 23-year-old from Barry. -- Mary.

:08:00. > :08:09.Adam is just as talented as his brother Simon, and he is one a

:08:10. > :08:19.points race in 2013. He is, or would be, a major contender for Britain's

:08:20. > :08:23.Olympic team in Mayo. -- Rio. What can we expect in terms of

:08:24. > :08:27.punishment, even though the team have taken response politicos like

:08:28. > :08:32.that remains to be seen. He is outside the rules. Has he got this

:08:33. > :08:36.exemption certificate, it would not have been a problem. We need to hear

:08:37. > :08:42.the reaction of the UCI. We help will have to wait and let the

:08:43. > :08:46.process takes this course. I do not know where it will go, to be honest.

:08:47. > :08:55.We have seen British cycling under the spotlight because of Shane

:08:56. > :09:02.Sutton was accused of disco retreat remarks. -- discriminatory remarks.

:09:03. > :09:08.We are in the position with him, after the allegations of sexism from

:09:09. > :09:15.Jess Varnish, and the allegations of the use of derogatory language

:09:16. > :09:21.against the Paralympic team, Shane Sutton is straight should --

:09:22. > :09:23.straight talking, abrasive. That is not new. His methods work

:09:24. > :09:33.brilliantly for some people, like Bradley Wiggins. Clearly, these same

:09:34. > :09:40.methods and his style does not work with others, who felt intimidated.

:09:41. > :09:44.But he did play a major role for the rights in recent years. He was best

:09:45. > :09:53.suited to his role as head coach when Dave Brailsford was there.

:09:54. > :10:01.There is also controversy about the sale of kit online. It cycling says

:10:02. > :10:07.that any kit has not been given away or sold for profit. Their are

:10:08. > :10:09.investigations into claims that kit and a high-performance bike was made

:10:10. > :10:17.available online. British cycling are saying that sometimes, kit is

:10:18. > :10:28.sold with money reinvested into the team. Sometimes, it is given as

:10:29. > :10:29.payment in kind. We will keep you up-to-date with that. That is all

:10:30. > :10:38.the support from now. -- sport. For the past few years one

:10:39. > :10:41.of country's biggest mental health trusts has been hit by a series

:10:42. > :10:43.of scandals - unexpected deaths, damning reports,

:10:44. > :10:45.and claims of bad practice. Now a inspection, which was ordered

:10:46. > :10:48.by the government, has found that, despite warnings, Southern Health

:10:49. > :10:50.is still not doing enough The Trust looks after patients

:10:51. > :10:53.in Hampshire, Dorset, Wiltshire, Last night, the Chairman resigned

:10:54. > :10:57.so that improvements could be made. Here's what the Care

:10:58. > :10:58.Quality Commission, which ran the inspection,

:10:59. > :11:09.had to say about what it found. Reports of an group -- of our most

:11:10. > :11:13.recent inspection in January this year it found serious failings in

:11:14. > :11:18.the governments of the organisation, particularly around investigating

:11:19. > :11:23.the death of people in care at the trust. We were concerned about the

:11:24. > :11:28.safety of some of the ward environments, from the trust not

:11:29. > :11:34.learning from the investigations of previous incidents. We think that

:11:35. > :11:35.this is a failure of governance and leadership.

:11:36. > :11:37.The inspection follows on from the death of 18-year-old

:11:38. > :11:41.He drowned in the bath after a seizure while he was at

:11:42. > :11:49.His family have been spoking to the BBC this morning.

:11:50. > :11:56.If we had known anything of any of the things we now know, we would not

:11:57. > :12:01.have at misses him to the unit that night. We have found out in the

:12:02. > :12:04.three years since that happened, things which are deeply disturbing,

:12:05. > :12:11.not just about Connor, but about other families. What I find

:12:12. > :12:15.particularly disturbing about this case is that if Connor had not died,

:12:16. > :12:20.which obviously we would prefer that had he not died, but none of this

:12:21. > :12:23.would have come out. What is so disappointing about the regulatory

:12:24. > :12:30.regime is it if it is reactive, and relies on people, carers, concerned

:12:31. > :12:36.individuals, to keep going and keep going. This trust try to bury what

:12:37. > :12:40.happened to Connor, and had we not been there for Connor, they probably

:12:41. > :12:44.would have not been able to do that. His son David had a history

:12:45. > :12:48.of mental health problems. He died in 2013 from a drug

:12:49. > :12:58.overdose, while under the care Thank you for coming in. He was 28

:12:59. > :13:06.when he died. He was. Tell us about the first time he was under the care

:13:07. > :13:10.of Southern health. He moved to the area where I lived around Fareham

:13:11. > :13:17.because he was physically abuse when he was in Swindon. He came under the

:13:18. > :13:21.care of Southern Health at that time. You have brought in some

:13:22. > :13:27.pictures about him when he was a little boy. Tell us about him. This

:13:28. > :13:32.was him when he was two years old. He was a premature baby. He was a

:13:33. > :13:44.forceps delivery. He had vetoed distress. It was my belief that he

:13:45. > :13:50.had a brain injury at birth. He had three siblings, and he was always a

:13:51. > :13:54.little bit different? He was the eldest, so it is difficult when it

:13:55. > :13:58.is your oldest, because you don't know if it is normal or not. He was

:13:59. > :14:03.always up at 4am or 5am, very hyperactive. But he did not get on

:14:04. > :14:11.too well with other children. He found it difficult. He was very

:14:12. > :14:16.strange in his manner, he had an excellent vocabulary, he used to

:14:17. > :14:21.read encyclopaedias, he was top 1% by weight of IQ, but he could not

:14:22. > :14:28.tell the time, could not tie his shoelaces at ten years of age. So he

:14:29. > :14:32.is a little boy that you had concerns about. When did the

:14:33. > :14:36.concerned stock to escalate? When he was very young. At six or seven,

:14:37. > :14:46.will realise that something was not quite right. We took import

:14:47. > :14:54.he was dyspraxic, dyslexic. He had a torrid time at school. He ended up

:14:55. > :15:00.under the care of Southern Health. What were the particular issues that

:15:01. > :15:05.he was treated for? He fell in with the wrong crowd, he found drugs, he

:15:06. > :15:11.found drink, and he did that to excess. He was a difficult patient.

:15:12. > :15:15.I make no bones about it. I'm sure he was not easy to deal with.

:15:16. > :15:24.Southern Health... What were the issues? He disengaged when he wanted

:15:25. > :15:28.to. He found it difficult to go to meetings. He found it difficult to

:15:29. > :15:32.travel, he did not like to travel on buses. He was paranoid that people

:15:33. > :15:37.were talking about him. Everything was difficult in his life. That

:15:38. > :15:43.actually was one of the issues it was reported in the CTC report. When

:15:44. > :15:51.a patient was not showing up for appointments. What happened?

:15:52. > :15:56.In June 2013, he didn't show up for one of the appointments and a

:15:57. > :16:00.consultant psychiatrist who had never met him before, had no

:16:01. > :16:04.dealings with him whatsoever, discharged him from the service and

:16:05. > :16:08.major rocketry and unprofessional comments. Called him toxic on his

:16:09. > :16:14.patient notes, discharged him without writing to the doctor, his

:16:15. > :16:17.GP. So for ten weeks, he was caught without any medication and he had

:16:18. > :16:21.been on strong medication and he couldn't get access back to the

:16:22. > :16:25.mental health team he couldn't get access to his GP. He was caught

:16:26. > :16:31.completely in no man's land. Were you aware at the time? No, I wasn't,

:16:32. > :16:35.and I was castigating him because I was saying, why haven't you got an

:16:36. > :16:39.appointment for the mental health team? And he said, they are telling

:16:40. > :16:46.me I've been discharged when I call them. I said, call the GP. He said,

:16:47. > :16:50.I have called them and they said they haven't received a letter. As

:16:51. > :16:54.far as they were aware, he was still being dealt with by the mental

:16:55. > :16:59.health team. When did you discover he had been described as toxic?

:17:00. > :17:03.After he died, Southern Health contacted me. Several managers there

:17:04. > :17:07.were very kind, considerate and professional and they said they were

:17:08. > :17:12.doing an investigation. Subsequent to that, they met me and told me

:17:13. > :17:18.that there were two rocketry comments and that there was this

:17:19. > :17:24.problem in June 2013 where he had been discharged inappropriately. How

:17:25. > :17:30.did you feel when you knew that? I was pretty shocked, I was very angry

:17:31. > :17:34.and I was particularly concerned, because on my son's report that they

:17:35. > :17:40.did, they said there were a lot of issues, such as risk assessment not

:17:41. > :17:43.been done correctly, a care plan not being there, crisis management not

:17:44. > :17:47.being updated. The thing was, they said this was happening in a lot of

:17:48. > :17:51.other reports that they were doing on other deaths. That was the first

:17:52. > :17:57.thing that triggered my real concern. Then I heard about Connor

:17:58. > :18:05.Sparrowhawk and his death. He is preventable death. An awful death. I

:18:06. > :18:12.became even more angry. Then I looked around and there were lots of

:18:13. > :18:16.other families in Hampshire where they had died, coroners had

:18:17. > :18:21.criticised them, there had been inquest and they hadn't learned

:18:22. > :18:29.lessons. Do you think if he had been treated somewhere else, David might

:18:30. > :18:34.still be alive? Who knows. He always led a chaotic life. He took illegal

:18:35. > :18:37.drugs and I have to accept that. I accept that he might not have made

:18:38. > :18:43.old bones but I think there were ways he could have been treated. The

:18:44. > :18:49.thing that I find difficult now is that I've just had a PHS O2 report,

:18:50. > :18:51.which is the ombudsman who look at complaints, because I made a

:18:52. > :18:56.complaint about Southern Health, and it's just been released this week

:18:57. > :19:02.and they have upheld quite a lot of the complaints I made about Southern

:19:03. > :19:08.Health. I think the other thing is, on top of this report, you have the

:19:09. > :19:12.CQC reports that have been telling them for years they are not doing

:19:13. > :19:15.things right and the other really important thing that isn't mentioned

:19:16. > :19:21.at the moment is a chap by the name of Matt Holder who is a health and

:19:22. > :19:25.safety expert. He was employed by the trust in 2012. He was there for

:19:26. > :19:30.three months and he resigned because he said their health and safety

:19:31. > :19:35.culture was dysfunctional. He set out in a long letter to them exactly

:19:36. > :19:41.what they were doing wrong, what they were not addressing and these

:19:42. > :19:44.were things like obligatory points. What has happened is they haven't

:19:45. > :19:49.addressed these issues. That is reinforced by the Mars report.

:19:50. > :19:55.Reinforced by the key CQC reports over a long period of time. Do you

:19:56. > :19:58.have confidence now there are these reports that the spotlight is on and

:19:59. > :20:03.things will change? The chairman of the trust have gone. I've got no

:20:04. > :20:06.confidence at all. They haven't changed in four years. They've been

:20:07. > :20:11.constantly told that things are wrong and they seem incapable of

:20:12. > :20:14.being able to deal with them. With this report in January, it is the

:20:15. > :20:17.same thing again. They are telling them the same things they have told

:20:18. > :20:23.them for three years. It is dreadful. It is now a public safety

:20:24. > :20:28.issue. I have got great admiration for Sarah Ryan, her family have been

:20:29. > :20:35.fantastic in trying to keep going with this. Trying to raise the

:20:36. > :20:42.profile and say there is a desperate problem. I have got no confidence

:20:43. > :20:46.that they are capable of changing. When you've been through what you've

:20:47. > :20:52.been through and then you have to fight after it, what does that do to

:20:53. > :20:55.you? It doesn't make life very comfortable. I don't want to fight

:20:56. > :21:01.all the time but I think the lessons haven't been learnt. There has been

:21:02. > :21:06.a history with Southern Health that they have said to coroners, to the

:21:07. > :21:09.press, to the families, we are learning lessons, and quite clearly

:21:10. > :21:15.they are not. If you look at the ligature points, Ravenswood house to

:21:16. > :21:20.take one example, it took over four years before they were able to

:21:21. > :21:23.Philippe get all the ligature points sorted out -- fully get all the

:21:24. > :21:28.ligature points sorted out. Why does it take four years when this is a

:21:29. > :21:35.matter of safety? I don't understand it. They have spent huge amounts of

:21:36. > :21:37.money own -- on a leadership programme and yet they have these

:21:38. > :21:41.ligature points which are safety issues that they haven't addressed.

:21:42. > :21:45.They have been told over and over again and the CQC have told them

:21:46. > :21:48.time and time again and they still haven't done it. I haven't got the

:21:49. > :21:53.answers and I wish somebody at the trust would explain, give us the

:21:54. > :21:54.answers. They don't seem to want to answer the questions and they are

:21:55. > :21:59.not listening. Thank you very much. We invited Southern Health

:22:00. > :22:01.onto our programme to talk about today's report,

:22:02. > :22:03.but they declined. They did give this interview to our

:22:04. > :22:11.correspondent Michael Buchanan. We have a really difficult balance

:22:12. > :22:15.to strike in terms of managing risk. I think all of the people in our

:22:16. > :22:23.mental health services who access our services pose some kind of risk.

:22:24. > :22:27.Looking at the care for those individuals, looking at their needs

:22:28. > :22:32.and balancing that with the kind of restrictions that we place around a

:22:33. > :22:37.service if they really challenging job. Sometimes we get it wrong. Most

:22:38. > :22:42.of the time, I think we get it right. When we get it wrong, what we

:22:43. > :22:45.need to do, what we do do, is sit back and reflect and really

:22:46. > :22:47.understand what went wrong and make changes.

:22:48. > :22:50.Dog owners are being warned about the outbreak of a potentially

:22:51. > :22:53.There've been several cases in the UK.

:22:54. > :22:55.We'll have an animal health expert on the show and do get

:22:56. > :22:58.in touch with your concerns if you're a dog-owner.

:22:59. > :23:01.Use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:23:02. > :23:09.The new set of SATs tests for six and seven-year-olds

:23:10. > :23:12.is being criticised by head teachers and parents alike

:23:13. > :23:15.Head teachers are meeting today for their annual conference and will

:23:16. > :23:17.argue that the government should stop enforcing these assessments.

:23:18. > :23:20.And some parents are planning to protest against the tests

:23:21. > :23:22.by taking their six and seven-year-olds out of school

:23:23. > :25:02.We can speak now to Laura Evans Vogel who's got two children

:25:03. > :25:05.at primary school and is a teacher herself; Mark Tuffney,

:25:06. > :25:07.who's Head Teacher at Lowther Primary School in London,

:25:08. > :25:09.Helena Rooney an Assistant Head at Little Ealing Primary.

:25:10. > :25:12.Jenny Veitch, whose son Harry is at primary school and we also

:25:13. > :25:18.have Jonathan Simons, a former government adviser on education.

:25:19. > :25:24.Thank you all very much for joining us. Laura, you are a parent and a

:25:25. > :25:32.teacher. What do you think about these stats? They are very, very

:25:33. > :25:40.concerning. Conversations that I have about these with parents across

:25:41. > :25:48.London and the country, we are seeing the effects on our children.

:25:49. > :25:54.Lots of anxiety, lots of fear, not looking forward to going to school.

:25:55. > :25:59.Lots of apprehension. How much are you seeing that? Are you seeing it

:26:00. > :26:04.in your own child? At the current moment, my own child's school is not

:26:05. > :26:13.putting of pressure on the SATS, but two years ago, my son was in a

:26:14. > :26:17.situation, in a curriculum setting that was very arduous, very skills

:26:18. > :26:24.-based, and while lots of kids did really well, I saw my own son suffer

:26:25. > :26:26.from this. He became very anxious and would repeatedly ask for

:26:27. > :26:31.confirmation that he wasn't doing anything wrong. That is very

:26:32. > :26:36.concerning behaviour at home. And you were sure this was just from

:26:37. > :26:42.academic pressure? When he was three the situation, we got our little boy

:26:43. > :26:45.back and he is now in a normal school with a normal broad

:26:46. > :26:51.curriculum doing the normal things that the national curriculum serves,

:26:52. > :26:55.art, enjoyable things. When it was narrow, he did not do well in this.

:26:56. > :26:59.Based on this experience, speaking with other campaigners and teachers,

:27:00. > :27:06.they are seeing this particularly this year on this set of SATS. Let's

:27:07. > :27:09.bring in Jenny, because you've got two sons, your youngest is seven,

:27:10. > :27:15.and you are taking him out of school next week as part of the campaign.

:27:16. > :27:21.Why are you doing that? I joined the let our kids be kids campaign after

:27:22. > :27:24.meeting with a teacher at school, in fact, who brought all the parents in

:27:25. > :27:28.to show them what the key state once that was going to look like this

:27:29. > :27:35.year. This has never been done before my 14-year-old son did his

:27:36. > :27:39.key stage one SATS seven years ago and he didn't even know he was doing

:27:40. > :27:45.a test. I didn't know he was doing a test. He was seven. We were taken

:27:46. > :27:47.into a room and were told that our children, despite the wonderful

:27:48. > :27:52.environment they were taught in, they would not achieve the

:27:53. > :27:56.age-related expectations this year. I am not bothered about the results.

:27:57. > :28:01.We don't care whether our children pass a test at six or seven. It has

:28:02. > :28:05.no bearing on what they go on to do in later life. What we do care about

:28:06. > :28:09.is this very narrow curriculum which the government has imposed on our

:28:10. > :28:13.teachers for very young children whose minds are not developed enough

:28:14. > :28:17.for the curriculum. Please explain for parents or anyone without

:28:18. > :28:21.children of that hate what the difference would be. Is there no

:28:22. > :28:28.room for anything other than academia for six and seven-year-olds

:28:29. > :28:31.now? I am saying that our teachers are wonderfully creative and we

:28:32. > :28:34.support our teachers but our teachers build the bridge to put six

:28:35. > :28:41.and seven-year-olds through a key stage one SATS test that two years

:28:42. > :28:48.ago is actually the level for a year for child. A child two years older.

:28:49. > :28:53.The government have brought in this very rigorous, narrow curriculum and

:28:54. > :28:56.they think by making tests harder, we will make our teachers -- our

:28:57. > :29:04.children writer. That is not the case. I just want to bring in Mark,

:29:05. > :29:10.the headteacher of a primary. Do you think expectations have stepped up

:29:11. > :29:12.that much? Most certainly. The new curriculum is definitely challenging

:29:13. > :29:19.and it is concerning around the level that children are expected to

:29:20. > :29:23.reach at primary. For me, assessment has changed this year anyway. The

:29:24. > :29:26.abolition of levels. For me, the plans that have been made haven't

:29:27. > :29:33.really been thought through in enough detail. What teacher doesn't

:29:34. > :29:37.want children to be enjoying their learning, to be having fun, to be

:29:38. > :29:42.expressive, to use their imagination and creativity? There with a lot of

:29:43. > :29:46.pressure now on teachers. SATS have been there for a long time but we

:29:47. > :29:49.were told as a school we would have more autonomy on what we deliver

:29:50. > :29:53.this year and if you ask teachers and other headteachers, they would

:29:54. > :29:57.say we have less autonomy. Let's bring in Jonathan. But your

:29:58. > :30:01.perspective on this? The claim is kids are being asked to do things at

:30:02. > :30:07.six and seven that are beyond their capabilities. There are a couple of

:30:08. > :30:10.things worth saying here and the best is, I am a parent. I have two

:30:11. > :30:14.young children and I have lots of friends with primary children as

:30:15. > :30:18.well. The one thing we all have in common is that we want our kids to

:30:19. > :30:22.be happy and excited at school but we also want to know if they are

:30:23. > :30:26.learning and achieving what they can to be successful in life. The key

:30:27. > :30:31.stage one SATS, as the headteacher said, have been more -- made more

:30:32. > :30:35.stretching this year. The government is expecting more of those children.

:30:36. > :30:39.I don't have an issue with big and wanting my children when they said a

:30:40. > :30:42.test to do as well as Tilden of the same age around the world. That

:30:43. > :30:46.doesn't seem to need to be an unreasonable thing to want to do.

:30:47. > :30:54.When you hear about parents being stressed out, what do you think

:30:55. > :30:59.about it? Inevitably, there is going to be some pressure around the test.

:31:00. > :31:03.But ultimately, it is the response ability of parents and headteachers

:31:04. > :31:05.to work together to make the environment as supportive as

:31:06. > :31:15.possible for the children. There is no reason at all what the children

:31:16. > :31:28.cannot be supported tested in a supportive atmosphere. Any school

:31:29. > :31:33.that is reducing a child to tears, that is appalling. I would like to

:31:34. > :31:38.pick up a couple of points there. The content of the test is not age

:31:39. > :31:45.and stage appropriate. We are putting too much into it. Give us

:31:46. > :31:49.some examples. In year six and seven, I went on a standardisation

:31:50. > :31:55.meeting to make sure that standards are crossed year to across all of

:31:56. > :31:59.Ealing Borough were the same, and we were supposed to look at the

:32:00. > :32:10.children's work and moderate it. Most of that was talking about

:32:11. > :32:18.putting extra oratory sentences into their children's work, what is an

:32:19. > :32:29.exclamation sentence? Surely children put exclamation in. So

:32:30. > :32:34.children are now saying, the children in my class are writing

:32:35. > :32:40.those kinds of sentences. Do you think that is too much for six or

:32:41. > :32:50.seven-year-old? I think it is a perfectly acceptable... It is a tick

:32:51. > :32:56.box. If the kids can do it... I am all for raising levels and the rest

:32:57. > :33:01.of it, but that is just one out of a number of objectives. If you are

:33:02. > :33:07.looking at year six, four children to pass their writing level, they

:33:08. > :33:11.are at something like 1500 judgments that the teacher has to make of that

:33:12. > :33:16.class. They have to make sure that they are secure in all areas of that

:33:17. > :33:22.curriculum, and in previous curricula. If they don't, they can

:33:23. > :33:28.slip back. We can have a very good writer who is Dick -- dyslexic, but

:33:29. > :33:35.they will not pass the state to -- the year six writing test. I still

:33:36. > :33:38.test you six once a week, and I want children to be able to express

:33:39. > :33:43.themselves and to be able to write creatively with imagination. At the

:33:44. > :33:47.moment, the way that the interim framework is setup, children have to

:33:48. > :33:57.achieve every single criteria to get an page level. You say that is

:33:58. > :34:04.stifling creativity? I think another missed opportunity is teacher

:34:05. > :34:10.expressed -- -- it is not about a teacher's Best fit. You have to do X

:34:11. > :34:13.and Y to be at an expected level. They come outside of -- the parents

:34:14. > :34:23.need to work best. How much responsibility do parents

:34:24. > :34:28.had to take for not getting the kids too worked up about this stuff? We

:34:29. > :34:33.definitely have a role to play in that and the schools do, too. Can I

:34:34. > :34:43.just say one more thing to illustrate? The six of us were given

:34:44. > :34:47.an assessment. Everyone write a brilliant piece of writing. We would

:34:48. > :34:57.sit and come up with something clever. The disgruntled middle-aged

:34:58. > :35:02.classroom teacher! But let's say that we wanted to be grammatically

:35:03. > :35:05.correct and spelt correctly and to have these particular punctuation

:35:06. > :35:09.marks are put in it. What we would find is that everyone of us would

:35:10. > :35:13.write a very different piece of writing, it will be less engaging

:35:14. > :35:19.and less interesting. And less fit for purpose. We want to teach kids

:35:20. > :35:25.to write coming really interesting. You are shaking your head. If you

:35:26. > :35:30.went into Waterstones or any book, and picked up any spelling but that

:35:31. > :35:36.bestselling book, particular world of anti-ageing, one thing is they

:35:37. > :35:46.are completely correct elite punctuated. There is no distinction.

:35:47. > :35:52.The introduction to the grammar tests, is needed. It is well

:35:53. > :35:56.received by schools. What we are missing is that some of the content

:35:57. > :36:04.is not actually relevant, and do we need children to know all of the

:36:05. > :36:09.grammatical terminology? Yes, we do. Which bits of English grammar do we

:36:10. > :36:18.consider children do not have a right to know? We are talking about

:36:19. > :36:29.the actual language. Yes! You are all talking over each other. We are

:36:30. > :36:37.talking here about key stage one sacks. Six and seven-year-olds.

:36:38. > :36:46.Their brains are not equipped to do this level of learning. We are not

:36:47. > :36:51.going to make our kids brighter by getting them to learn things early.

:36:52. > :36:58.A child's brain needs to relax. They can handle a Mac progeny -- problem

:36:59. > :37:03.for ten minutes. The figure at play, they can come back and do that

:37:04. > :37:07.problem. This is about a curriculum that is age inappropriate. The saps

:37:08. > :37:13.are inappropriate. We are not against rating standards. We are not

:37:14. > :37:18.against the government wanting our children to be fantastic in life. We

:37:19. > :37:21.are not against that. What we are against is this exam factory that

:37:22. > :37:28.the government are imposing on our schools. If I can add to that, we

:37:29. > :37:32.need to recognise that progress in children is not linear. Children

:37:33. > :37:35.regress at different rates. Some children will be ready for those

:37:36. > :37:39.assessments, and that is absolutely right, but many children are not,

:37:40. > :37:44.and if you think about your own development, if we do not -- we do

:37:45. > :37:48.not draw a graft of our development. We progress at different rates. I

:37:49. > :37:56.want the flexibility in school to do that. We are at the start of a

:37:57. > :38:05.process. What impact will this have on kids? The teaches art shouldering

:38:06. > :38:12.a lot of the burden. We cannot say that there are thresholds. What is a

:38:13. > :38:16.passport going to look like? The agencies do not know what that is

:38:17. > :38:22.going to look like, so we will have to wait and see what the thresholds

:38:23. > :38:30.are, and will be feeling is that we want the children to do the best

:38:31. > :38:35.they can, and get everything the best they possibly can. We can make

:38:36. > :38:39.it fun and creative, but they will feel the tension within the schools.

:38:40. > :38:42.Thank you very much for a lively debate.

:38:43. > :38:44.The UKIP leader Nigel Farage is making a speech in

:38:45. > :38:47.Westminster about security - arguing that the UK would be

:38:48. > :38:58.Americans don't use the word queue, they sate line, with just about

:38:59. > :39:04.proves to me the point that he was saying what Cameron had asked in to

:39:05. > :39:08.do. But as a result of this promotes list torrent, the league campaign,

:39:09. > :39:14.the official league campaign has effectively spent the last fortnight

:39:15. > :39:20.defending its own goal, doing their best to stop the other side,

:39:21. > :39:25.decrying all that has been set as nonsense but not being as assertive

:39:26. > :39:31.as they should be. I am very pleased that in the last few days, Professor

:39:32. > :39:38.Patrick Minford and others have stood up and said not only is what

:39:39. > :39:44.the Romanian two are saying rubbish, and did you get that? No, it's all

:39:45. > :39:51.right. But the trade deal is a rotten deal. For tariff free access

:39:52. > :40:01.to the single market, we have to wait the free movement of people.

:40:02. > :40:07.And for the fact that only 12% of the British economy is engaged in

:40:08. > :40:13.exports to the European Union. 100% of our businesses have to accept EU

:40:14. > :40:17.regulation and law. And outside of this single market, we will be

:40:18. > :40:23.better off. Food will be cheaper, cars will be cheaper, and even the

:40:24. > :40:27.worst case scenario, which is that there is no deal, there is no

:40:28. > :40:33.successful conclusion of talks at the end of two years, even the worst

:40:34. > :40:38.case scenario under WTO rules, the total amount of tariffs only amount

:40:39. > :40:43.to two thirds of our net contribution to this club. So we

:40:44. > :40:47.need to be much more assertive in making the economic point that

:40:48. > :40:51.Britain will be better off outside of the European Union whatever those

:40:52. > :40:59.negotiations lead to. But all of that is being in our half of the

:41:00. > :41:05.pitch. And as a family, with a long standing record, generations of

:41:06. > :41:16.supporting Crystal Palace, who are now in the FA Cup final, I am

:41:17. > :41:22.pleased to say. I am in London! I thought I would get more support for

:41:23. > :41:36.that. I have urged Vote Leave, the official designated campaign. We

:41:37. > :41:40.need to tackle the enemy's goal. It is about open-door migration, the

:41:41. > :41:43.vet that it is had on the lives of ordinary Britain over the last

:41:44. > :41:47.decade, and the threat that it poses, given the new terror and

:41:48. > :41:52.security threats that we face in the West. I am sorry to say that they do

:41:53. > :41:57.not appear to have done it. I don't think they have within them to make

:41:58. > :42:03.there is credible oddments. If you have been part of the Cabinet that

:42:04. > :42:07.is overseeing net migration, and that is if you believe the official

:42:08. > :42:10.figures, which seemed to be corrected by the week, but if you

:42:11. > :42:16.are part of the Cabinet that has seen net migration running at record

:42:17. > :42:20.levels, and running at ten times the post-war Amory -- average, you are

:42:21. > :42:25.not best placed to make that judgment. I tried hard over the

:42:26. > :42:29.course of the weekend to say, look, we must let bygones be bygones.

:42:30. > :42:33.Whatever has been said in the past is 11 -- irrelevant, we need to be

:42:34. > :42:38.together. And I would love myself and Ukip to work with you on this

:42:39. > :42:43.campaign, because actually, we, we are the form horses when it comes to

:42:44. > :42:47.eat immigration, the impact that it has had on people in this country,

:42:48. > :42:51.and I am sorry to say that every time that I attempt to try and work

:42:52. > :42:57.with them, I am rebuffed and rejected. If they don't want us to

:42:58. > :43:03.be part of their campaign, we will make our arguments ourselves, and we

:43:04. > :43:09.will between now and June 23 make one very simple point. When Theresa

:43:10. > :43:14.May says that it is difficult to control immigration as a member of

:43:15. > :43:20.the European Union she is wrong. It is not difficult. It is impossible.

:43:21. > :43:32.APPLAUSE And the reason is all too clear.

:43:33. > :43:41.This is a British passport. And one of the first -- the first two words

:43:42. > :43:46.on it are European Union. Since Maastricht, we have been citizens of

:43:47. > :43:53.the European Union. This passport is available to 508 million people. And

:43:54. > :44:00.yes, we are able, not being able to -- being part of Schengen, to get

:44:01. > :44:07.them to show their passports at Dover. But we cannot stop people

:44:08. > :44:12.settling in this country and... We warned in 2004 that letting in the

:44:13. > :44:17.former communist countries wouldn't lead not just at total lot is --

:44:18. > :44:24.loss of control, but an unprecedented flow into Britain, and

:44:25. > :44:28.we have been proved right. And yet the Westminster set still have not

:44:29. > :44:33.really clocked it. I guess it is because so many of them come from

:44:34. > :44:45.such privileged and wealthy backgrounds, and so rarely ever

:44:46. > :44:53.stray outside the M25. Many of them think that open-door mass

:44:54. > :44:58.immigration is terrific! And in some ways, for them, it is. Because it is

:44:59. > :45:03.cheaper nannies, and it is cheaper chauffeurs, and it is cheaper

:45:04. > :45:07.Gardners, and if you own a big business in agriculture or

:45:08. > :45:14.Manufacturing building, it gives you access to unlimited amounts of cheap

:45:15. > :45:21.labour. But the impact of this has been felt by ordinary decent people

:45:22. > :45:28.in this country. Just think about housing. Here we are in London with

:45:29. > :45:32.a massive housing crisis. And we learn, of course, that the green

:45:33. > :45:36.belt, the green belt that many of us love so much around London, is

:45:37. > :45:39.directly under threat. Is it any wonder, given current levels of

:45:40. > :45:45.immigration into Britain that we have to build a new house every

:45:46. > :45:51.seven minutes just to cope with the current flow of people? And what

:45:52. > :45:54.about primary school places? With an explosion in the birth rate from

:45:55. > :46:03.newly arrived people, we estimate that we are going to have defined

:46:04. > :46:08.another 200,000 school places into 2020. But I say estimate, because

:46:09. > :46:13.the point is that good government is about planning forward. But how can

:46:14. > :46:17.you plan forward for public service provision when you only have

:46:18. > :46:22.open-door immigration and you have no idea in five years' time with the

:46:23. > :46:30.nearest 2 million hammy people will actually be living in the country?

:46:31. > :46:35.You can't. As far as the NHS is concerned, I did try last year in

:46:36. > :46:39.the general election to raise the issue of health tourism, but a

:46:40. > :46:43.simple fact is that last year the British government paid out ?6.2

:46:44. > :46:48.billion Sterling two European hospitals that treated British

:46:49. > :46:54.patients. Despite the fact that there are many more EU nationals

:46:55. > :46:59.living in Britain than there are British nationals living in the EU,

:47:00. > :47:08.for the sixth 2.2 billion we sent in that direction, how much came back?

:47:09. > :47:12.405 million. -- 6.2 billion. Whichever way you cut this, you are

:47:13. > :47:15.getting a rotten deal in terms of the health service. I know the

:47:16. > :47:22.Chancellor will tell you that our GDP is going up but if you're

:47:23. > :47:27.population increases by 500 thousand a year, that's not particularly

:47:28. > :47:32.surprising, is it? The question is, is GDP per capita going up and it is

:47:33. > :47:39.not. The bank of England are clear that what ordinary working people on

:47:40. > :47:43.average salaries, their real wages, there is real living standards have

:47:44. > :47:48.declined by 10% since 2008 and perhaps that's why there are so many

:47:49. > :47:51.people out there, hard-working Britons out there that have switched

:47:52. > :47:58.their allegiance to us because they are the ones who pay the price for

:47:59. > :48:04.irresponsible open door migration. There are other things we cannot put

:48:05. > :48:08.a cost on. Social cohesion. A sense in our cities and market towns that

:48:09. > :48:13.we are one community living together. That, of course, has

:48:14. > :48:16.become increasingly divided, fragmented, segmented within our

:48:17. > :48:23.towns and cities because the shore pace of people coming has been too

:48:24. > :48:28.great to integrate. There are also indications for crime. The fact that

:48:29. > :48:32.41% of registered crime in London is now committed by foreign nationals

:48:33. > :48:38.is, I would suggest, a source of concern and says to me that post

:48:39. > :48:45.Brexit what we need to do is put in place an immigration and work permit

:48:46. > :48:49.scheme along the lines of countries like Australia put into place. We

:48:50. > :48:53.want good people to come to our country. We don't want to

:48:54. > :48:57.discriminate against them because they are from India or New Zealand

:48:58. > :49:01.in favour of bog area and Romania. We should be open to the world and

:49:02. > :49:07.want people in sensible numbers with skills, with trades, who haven't got

:49:08. > :49:10.criminal records and are prepared to pay their own medical insurance for

:49:11. > :49:16.at least five years. That is the future, I believe. Nigel Farage on

:49:17. > :49:22.why he thinks the UK should exit the you when we vote in the referendum

:49:23. > :49:29.on the 23rd of June. Let's bring you a flavour of your comments on SATS

:49:30. > :49:34.testing. Maria has tweeted, bring back teacher led assessments instead

:49:35. > :49:43.of SATS. Neither teachers and pupils need this pressure. Someone else

:49:44. > :49:53.tweeted, SATS unnecessary, get over it. -- are necessary. Surely you can

:49:54. > :49:59.tell if a child is below standard from their schoolwork? My kids

:50:00. > :50:03.headteacher said you would be reporting if I went ahead with the

:50:04. > :50:09.strike. Karen e-mailed saying, how do the teachers know this is a test?

:50:10. > :50:12.Teachers should make it fun and just another day at school. They are

:50:13. > :50:21.stressing and passing it on to the children. Thanks for your comments.

:50:22. > :50:28.Please keep them coming in. Also coming up, dog owners are being

:50:29. > :50:29.warned to check their dogs for signs of three potentially dangerous

:50:30. > :50:33.illnesses. British cycling has been hit by one

:50:34. > :50:35.controversy after another Now a rising star of road racing

:50:36. > :50:39.and an Olympic hopeful, Simon Yates has failed

:50:40. > :50:41.a competition drugs test. The 23-year-old cyclist tested

:50:42. > :50:43.positive for a banned substance but his team says it was just

:50:44. > :50:46.an administrative error The latest blow to British cycling's

:50:47. > :50:55.image led to a tweet from six Earlier this week technical director

:50:56. > :50:57.Shane Sutton resigned from his position over allegations

:50:58. > :51:00.of sexism and discrimination. Let's speak to the former

:51:01. > :51:02.World Champion cyclist and the former president

:51:03. > :51:08.of British Cycling, Tony Doyle. Good morning. Thanks for joining us.

:51:09. > :51:14.Please tell us your thoughts on Simon Yates. He is a rising star and

:51:15. > :51:20.possible Olympic contender. Most definitely. He is a rider with a

:51:21. > :51:23.huge amount of potential. His twin brother, Adam Yates, they are both

:51:24. > :51:29.fantastic riders with real potential, not just for Rio but for

:51:30. > :51:33.way beyond. They are only 23. He has been very unfortunate that he has

:51:34. > :51:38.fallen foul of an administrative error that shouldn't have happened.

:51:39. > :51:43.He was taking an inhaler for a problem with asthma and the rules in

:51:44. > :51:46.cycling are so stringent that you can't fall fowl in any way

:51:47. > :51:50.whatsoever, so his team should have notified the world governing body in

:51:51. > :51:55.advance. The team doctor has admitted it was a mistake and he has

:51:56. > :52:01.totally put his hand up and said, it shouldn't have happened and he was

:52:02. > :52:05.out of order. It is tragic for Simon and obviously a big blow to British

:52:06. > :52:11.cycling but hopefully they will be able to overcome this setback and

:52:12. > :52:16.realise that it wasn't a question of trying to cheat, it was just purely

:52:17. > :52:22.medicine for asthma and it was a technical error that the governing

:52:23. > :52:26.body wasn't notified. So the team have put out a statement saying they

:52:27. > :52:30.take full responsibility and wish to underline their support for Simon

:52:31. > :52:38.during this process. Should it be quite easy to clear up? It's never

:52:39. > :52:41.easy because obviously the rules are very strict. Cycling is the

:52:42. > :52:46.strictest sport. We have more control than any other sport. If you

:52:47. > :52:51.are guilty, you are named and shamed. Hopefully some common sense

:52:52. > :52:57.will prevail. In sport now, the regulations are so strict. Cobb

:52:58. > :53:01.medicines, eye drops, inhalers for asthma which the average person on

:53:02. > :53:06.the street can take, we can't take without permission. What are your

:53:07. > :53:12.thoughts on Shane Sutton going? What impact will that have? It has been a

:53:13. > :53:15.difficult time. It has been a very difficult time. The past couple of

:53:16. > :53:20.weeks for British cycling have been many mental. Shane is a fantastic

:53:21. > :53:25.motivator and an inspiration for British cycling. Since he has been

:53:26. > :53:29.involved with the British cycling Federation, as a nation at world and

:53:30. > :53:33.Olympic level, we have gone from strength to strength. The fact that

:53:34. > :53:37.he will not be at Rio with our team and will walk away from British

:53:38. > :53:43.cycling, that is a huge loss. It is similar to the last that Manchester

:53:44. > :53:48.United has that with the loss of Alex Ferguson. Shane and sialic are

:53:49. > :53:52.irreplaceable. Thank you very much for joining us. Let's just bring you

:53:53. > :53:56.some breaking news from the Old Bailey. We are just hearing that

:53:57. > :54:01.Arthur Simson Kent has admitting -- admitted to the killing of his

:54:02. > :54:05.girlfriend, the former East Enders actress, and their two young

:54:06. > :54:12.children. His barrister has told the Old Bailey that. He said this could

:54:13. > :54:18.be reported because the jury would be told, though he asked that his

:54:19. > :54:25.client was not made to make a plea until a later date. He was due to

:54:26. > :54:29.face a court hearing in October but he has admitted to killing Sian

:54:30. > :54:37.Blake and their two young children. Dog owners are being warned

:54:38. > :54:43.about taking their pets on holiday. It's over fears about the spread

:54:44. > :54:55.of three deadly diseases Popular holiday areas have been

:54:56. > :55:01.identified, with Devon being one of them, as carrying these diseases

:55:02. > :55:07.that can kill dogs. How widespread are these diseases and what are

:55:08. > :55:13.they? There are two of significance. Lyme Disease has been with us for

:55:14. > :55:15.decades but it is on the rise. We are seeing increased cases

:55:16. > :55:22.year-on-year. It goes where ever takes out any country. Ticks love

:55:23. > :55:27.woodland, countryside, tall grass and bracken. Just the sort of places

:55:28. > :55:32.that we love to holiday Inn. Some of the most beautiful places in the

:55:33. > :55:38.country. As you have said, Devon, the new Forest, the Quantock Hills,

:55:39. > :55:43.the Highlands, Lake District, all very popular places but also full of

:55:44. > :55:49.ticks and Lyme Disease. Is it easy to see if a dog has a take on it?

:55:50. > :55:53.The thing is that you need to look and Lyme Disease takes 24 hours to

:55:54. > :55:57.be transmitted. If you look over your dog, they love where the blood

:55:58. > :56:04.is close to the surface, so I live, the tips of the eaves and where the

:56:05. > :56:14.body touches the grass. They look alike this, they are very pretty, as

:56:15. > :56:21.you can tell, and when they fill up, they are about the size of a small

:56:22. > :56:28.p. If you get a take book, you can get these from Pet Shop Boys and

:56:29. > :56:36.that's -- you can get these from shops and that's and using a folk

:56:37. > :56:42.like this, you can take the kick out and that will help prevent

:56:43. > :56:53.transmission of the disease. Our dog owners aware enough? Are many dogs

:56:54. > :57:02.falling ill and dying because of tick bites? There has just been an

:57:03. > :57:06.outbreak of an illness could Babesiosis in Essex. It hit the

:57:07. > :57:12.national news and caused quite a stir. It causes any near in dogs and

:57:13. > :57:17.can be fatal. Something that owners and vets need to keep an eye out

:57:18. > :57:21.for. Lyme Disease is much more widespread around the country. It is

:57:22. > :57:25.relatively uncommon but we are seeing it in people as well where

:57:26. > :57:30.ticks attach. People need to check themselves at least 24 hours if they

:57:31. > :57:33.have been skipping through the Bracken or cycling in the

:57:34. > :57:40.countryside, running, just to check themselves as well. What is the best

:57:41. > :57:45.way to protect yourself? You can get a tick colour, can't you? There are

:57:46. > :57:55.different kinds. It needs to be something that rapidly killed or

:57:56. > :57:59.repels the tick, so your pet will be able to find something that suits

:58:00. > :58:05.you and will stop the tick from attaching to your dog. Thank you

:58:06. > :58:09.very much. Very good advice for dog owners are ahead of the bank

:58:10. > :58:16.holiday. A couple of your weekend -- your e-mails - the pressure on

:58:17. > :58:21.children for SATS is making the glass and stressful for all. SAC has

:58:22. > :58:26.e-mailed to say that he learned excellent grammar in school in the

:58:27. > :58:30.60s. Why is it so difficult these days? We will be back on Tuesday.

:58:31. > :58:45.Enjoy the bank holiday weekend. The bank holiday weekend is just

:58:46. > :58:49.around the corner. Let's look at the summary. It will be more mild than

:58:50. > :58:50.we have