11/05/2016

:00:07. > :00:11.It's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.

:00:12. > :00:23.Our top story today, red faces all round?

:00:24. > :00:25.The Queen's been caught on camera describing Chinese

:00:26. > :00:28.officials as "very rude" - and at the same time David Cameron's

:00:29. > :00:29.been caught telling her that Nigeria and Afghanistan

:00:30. > :00:56.Also on the programme, can you inherit mental illness

:00:57. > :01:02.My grandfather discovered he bone cancer and sadly shot himself.

:01:03. > :01:10.When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

:01:11. > :01:17.Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of depression.

:01:18. > :01:19.Do we inherit mental health issues I'd like to know?

:01:20. > :01:21.Do get in touch with your own experiences

:01:22. > :01:29.And war, poverty, huge job losses, uncontrolled immigration -

:01:30. > :01:32.just some of the scare tactics we're hearing from both sides when it

:01:33. > :01:34.comes to the referendum on the European Union.

:01:35. > :01:49.But is it just putting you off altogether?

:01:50. > :01:52.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am.

:01:53. > :01:57.Throughout the programme, we'll bring you the latest breaking

:01:58. > :02:02.news and developing stories and, as always, we're really keen to hear

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:02:15. > :02:17.Our top story today, the Queen has been filmed describing

:02:18. > :02:19.Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

:02:20. > :02:23.The incident was caught at a garden party yesterday by the official

:02:24. > :02:25.Buckingham Palace photographer, during a conversation

:02:26. > :02:28.between the Queen and the officer in charge of policing the event.

:02:29. > :02:30.It came just hours after David Cameron was recorded calling

:02:31. > :02:31.Afghanistan and Nigeria "fantastically corrupt"

:02:32. > :02:40.Our Diplomatic Correspondent, James Robbins, reports.

:02:41. > :02:42.The Prime Minister was among leading figure from both Houses

:02:43. > :02:44.of Parliament marking the Queen's 90th birthday at Buckingham Palace.

:02:45. > :02:48.The Palace cameraman, filming on behalf of major broadcasters,

:02:49. > :02:52.captures the moment when Mr Cameron, flanked by the Archbishop

:02:53. > :02:57.of Canterbury and a Leader of the House Chris Grayling,

:02:58. > :03:00.is joined by the Queen and the Speaker of the Commons, John Bercow.

:03:01. > :03:03.We've actually got the leaders of some fantastically corrupt

:03:04. > :03:07.We've got Nigeria and Afghanistan, possibly two of the most corrupt

:03:08. > :03:10.But this particular president is actually not corrupt.

:03:11. > :03:17.The president's spokesman said he was deeply shocked

:03:18. > :03:21.and embarrassed and Mr Cameron's remarks were out of date.

:03:22. > :03:25.TRANSLATION: It is disturbing that despite all the efforts made

:03:26. > :03:27.by the president in fighting corruption in Nigeria his efforts

:03:28. > :03:38.Last autumn's controversial Chinese state visit by President Xi

:03:39. > :03:41.was a subject of conversation with the Queen when she was told

:03:42. > :03:43.by rows between Chinese officials on one side

:03:44. > :03:49.and the Metropolitan Police and Britain's ambassador on the other.

:03:50. > :03:51.At a palace garden an official accompanies the Queen to meet

:03:52. > :03:53.the police commander in charge during those difficult days.

:03:54. > :03:56.Can I present commander Lucy D'Orsi, Gold Commander

:03:57. > :04:03.Who was seriously, seriously undermined by the Chinese,

:04:04. > :04:06.but she managed to hold on her own and her mother, Judith,

:04:07. > :04:10.who is also involved in child protection and social work.

:04:11. > :04:15.You must tell, you must tell your story...

:04:16. > :04:18.Yes, I was the Gold Commander so I'm not sure whether you knew,

:04:19. > :04:20.but it was quite a testing time for...

:04:21. > :04:25.It was err, I think at the point that they walked out of Lancaster

:04:26. > :04:29.And told me that the trip was off that I felt err.

:04:30. > :04:30.They were very rude to the ambassador.

:04:31. > :04:33.It's highly unusual for two conversations like these to emerge

:04:34. > :04:35.from Buckingham Palace, particularly in a single day

:04:36. > :04:42.and which deals so directly with Britain's international relations.

:04:43. > :04:47.Let's get more from our Royal Correspondent, Sarah Campbell.

:04:48. > :04:55.How has this happened with the Queen then? Well, how it happened is that,

:04:56. > :04:59.the nuts and bolts basically are the main broadcasters, the BBC, ITV and

:05:00. > :05:03.Sky pay for a cameraman who on things like this garden parties,

:05:04. > :05:06.visits that the Queen makes, follows her around and his job is

:05:07. > :05:10.essentially just to take shots of her kind of snapshots of her so they

:05:11. > :05:13.are not necessarily continuous pictures so it can be cut together

:05:14. > :05:18.to give broadcasters something to work with. Essentially so everywhere

:05:19. > :05:22.she goes, she is not followed by a mob of camera crews. That was the

:05:23. > :05:26.agreement and it was at one of these garden parties yesterday, where the

:05:27. > :05:31.cameraman Peter Wilkinson, would have been standing close to her. So

:05:32. > :05:35.she would have known he was there. She may have forgotten and just been

:05:36. > :05:40.having a conversation, but he is close to her and camera mics are

:05:41. > :05:43.powerful so would have been able to pick up the conversation and that's

:05:44. > :05:48.what happened. When the material was fed back to the broadcasters, they

:05:49. > :05:51.picked up on it. Is it a PR hiccup or a PR calamity? Buckingham Palace

:05:52. > :05:57.say they won't comment on a private conversation and said that the State

:05:58. > :06:02.visit went very well. I think for people particularly Royal-watchers,

:06:03. > :06:06.it is just fascinating. We have heard in the past, Prince Charles

:06:07. > :06:10.made unguarded comments, and the Duke of Edinburgh gaffes, but I

:06:11. > :06:14.can't think of a time when we have heard the Queen really say something

:06:15. > :06:18.quite so bluntly, you know, calling another country, talking about how

:06:19. > :06:22.rude they were and that's what is fascinating is it is a completely

:06:23. > :06:24.unguarded moment and in all her long years on the throne, that happened

:06:25. > :06:29.very, very rarely. Thank you very much, Sarah. Sarah

:06:30. > :06:32.Campbell who is our deputy royal correspondent. A couple of messages

:06:33. > :06:38.here. Stewart, "Why should the Prime Minister and the Queen not express

:06:39. > :06:41.how they feel about foreigners. " Pall says, "Why shouldn't the Queen

:06:42. > :06:45.and David Cameron express their opinions. The problem isn't with

:06:46. > :06:51.them, it is with the people who leak it out." Imagine the fuss if we

:06:52. > :06:53.edited out the sensitive material. What would we be accused of then,

:06:54. > :06:56.Paul? Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:06:57. > :06:59.Newsroom with a summary A report has warned that

:07:00. > :07:05.many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

:07:06. > :07:07.the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

:07:08. > :07:10.investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

:07:11. > :07:13.and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

:07:14. > :07:16.services, which it says The NHS says improvements

:07:17. > :07:24.are under way. There is a shortfall of around

:07:25. > :07:26.50,000 clinical staff in the NHS in England,

:07:27. > :07:28.according to a report The Commons Public Accounts

:07:29. > :07:31.Committee blames a combination of bad planning and

:07:32. > :07:33.unrealistic savings targets. Our Health Correspondent,

:07:34. > :07:35.Jane Dreaper, has the details. England's NHS needs more doctors

:07:36. > :07:39.and nurses and hospitals Today's report warns

:07:40. > :07:45.patients will face longer The MPs say Health Service staffing

:07:46. > :07:52.needs to be looked at urgently. The latest figures show a gap

:07:53. > :07:54.of 50,000 clinical Nursing shortages will continue

:07:55. > :08:00.for the next three years and the report warns plans

:08:01. > :08:03.for a seven day NHS haven't Patients at the frontline need

:08:04. > :08:08.the healthcare and they're suffering twice because if there aren't staff

:08:09. > :08:10.in place to deliver that, that causes them problems,

:08:11. > :08:19.but it also costs them as a taxpayer because those places

:08:20. > :08:21.are back-filled by agency staff. So patients are really at risk

:08:22. > :08:24.of losing out here under the NHS at the moment

:08:25. > :08:27.because of this crisis in staffing. The Government says the report fails

:08:28. > :08:30.to take account of increases in the NHS workforce and plans

:08:31. > :08:33.for extra staff will be in place Ministers insist a quarter

:08:34. > :08:37.of England will have seven Thousands of suspected and convicted

:08:38. > :08:46.criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

:08:47. > :08:48.murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

:08:49. > :08:54.more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

:08:55. > :08:55.warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

:08:56. > :09:05.fear justice will not be done. The Vote Leave Campaign will begin

:09:06. > :09:08.its tour of the UK this morning, ahead of next month's referendum

:09:09. > :09:10.on the EU. Before setting off on the battlebus,

:09:11. > :09:13.Boris Johnson said voters should focus on the fundamental issues,

:09:14. > :09:29.rather than infighting This is a referendum about taking

:09:30. > :09:32.back control of ?350 million a week which we could spend according it

:09:33. > :09:37.our priorities here in this country. It is about taking back control of

:09:38. > :09:42.our borders and I think it is about getting back control of British

:09:43. > :09:47.democracy and I believe in this country. I love Europe. I have got

:09:48. > :09:52.many, many wonderful, happy memories of living and working, going on

:09:53. > :09:56.holiday to Europe, most of my family come from one European or another.

:09:57. > :10:00.Of course, we love Europe, but there is a difference between Europe and

:10:01. > :10:05.the institutions of the European Union.

:10:06. > :10:07.Detectives in the US State of Minnesota have questioned

:10:08. > :10:11.a doctor who saw the singer Prince twice in the weeks before he died.

:10:12. > :10:13.A police warrant reveals Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed

:10:14. > :10:16.medication to the 57-year-old star the day before he died last month.

:10:17. > :10:20.It doesn't say what was prescribed, or whether Prince took the drugs.

:10:21. > :10:23.An Indian woman has become a mother for the first time at the age of 72.

:10:24. > :10:26.Daljinder Kaur gave birth to a baby boy last month following two

:10:27. > :10:28.years of IVF treatment, according to her fertility clinic.

:10:29. > :10:37.She and her 79-year-old husband have been married for 46 years.

:10:38. > :10:39.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:10:40. > :10:48.Wow, more on that story, of course, in the programme!

:10:49. > :10:51.In the next few minutes, we'll look at what the evidence shows when it

:10:52. > :10:53.comes to whether or not you can inherit mental illness

:10:54. > :10:57.It's an issue that many people with history of mental health

:10:58. > :10:59.issues in their family often ask themselves.

:11:00. > :11:06.Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged

:11:07. > :11:18.I look forward to reading your e-mails and tweets and texts. It is

:11:19. > :11:20.time for the sport. Some West Ham fans were a disgrace

:11:21. > :11:32.to their club. They really were. First, some breaking

:11:33. > :11:34.news from the cricket world and, following a 20-year

:11:35. > :11:36.international career, England women's captain

:11:37. > :11:38.Charlotte Edwards is to With more than 300 caps

:11:39. > :11:41.to her name, Edwards hangs up her bat as -

:11:42. > :11:43.arguably - the most significant figure in the history

:11:44. > :11:45.of women's cricket. Our sports correspondent Joe Wilson

:11:46. > :11:54.has followed Edwards' Joe how do you assess her cbs to the

:11:55. > :11:58.sport? Well, Ore. I think that point you just made saying she is the most

:11:59. > :12:03.significant player in the history of the her sport and I would go along

:12:04. > :12:06.about that and I know about the contribution of pioneers, but

:12:07. > :12:10.without Charlotte it is impossible to think cricket would be where it

:12:11. > :12:15.is now in terms of the women's game. Statistically you can look at it and

:12:16. > :12:20.look at the runs she scored in One Day Internationals, more than anyone

:12:21. > :12:25.else. More than anybody, male for female, you can look at the 220

:12:26. > :12:28.times she captained England. 20 years as an international cricketer,

:12:29. > :12:31.it is remarkable. But she has always felt she had a role until developing

:12:32. > :12:35.the game. I have been with her in schools when she has gone into

:12:36. > :12:38.coach. She had gone up to the front of an assembly and danced and sung

:12:39. > :12:42.in front of primary school children. Anything really to try and get them

:12:43. > :12:46.into cricket. Girls in particular. We are now in a situation for a

:12:47. > :12:49.young girl in this country, in lots of parts of the world, where they

:12:50. > :12:53.can actually feel they have a career option to play cricket. Now that

:12:54. > :12:58.just wasn't the case when Charlotte was a girl. You know, she really

:12:59. > :13:02.learned her cricket and improved her cricket playing with boys and

:13:03. > :13:06.captaining boys teams. Along Charlotte's fierce determination to

:13:07. > :13:10.score runs which is unmatched, there is the sense she knew she was the

:13:11. > :13:14.figure head in developing the game globally. Imagine retiring from your

:13:15. > :13:17.sport internationally, knowing that you've transformed that sport. I

:13:18. > :13:21.wonder how many sportsmen and women can really think that at the end of

:13:22. > :13:25.their careers. You touched on it there, Joe. She leaves the women's

:13:26. > :13:28.game, certainly the elite side of the game in rude health, doesn't

:13:29. > :13:32.she? She will carry on playing. One of the big developments this summer

:13:33. > :13:36.there will be a professional domestic league in engnd gland, six

:13:37. > :13:40.teams and Charlotte Edwards will play for the Southern Vipers in that

:13:41. > :13:43.competition. I will speak to Charlotte in more depth this

:13:44. > :13:47.morning. There is a quote from her, which is an interesting one. She is

:13:48. > :13:51.talking about this decision for her to step down particularly in

:13:52. > :13:56.reference with the new coach of the women's team. She says, "I would

:13:57. > :14:01.have loved to have carried on, I fully understand and respect what

:14:02. > :14:05.Mark is looking to do." Women's cricket is moving in a different

:14:06. > :14:08.direction. Special emphasis on youth and special emphasis on fitness and

:14:09. > :14:11.it is interesting to see Charlotte's decision in the light of that

:14:12. > :14:21.progression. It is an intriguing direction. Stay with us

:14:22. > :14:23.there for the final match at Upton Park last night. Those unsavoury

:14:24. > :14:26.scenes outside West Ham which the fans attacked Manchester United's

:14:27. > :14:31.team bus. Several people were injured, but no one seriously hurt.

:14:32. > :14:34.West Ham promised life bans for anyone found responsible. The FA

:14:35. > :14:38.said they will work with the police to investigate. Really disturbing

:14:39. > :14:41.stuff, Joe. Well, it is disappointing that this happened,

:14:42. > :14:45.Ore. I was around the ground before and after the match. It was

:14:46. > :14:49.certainly a raucous atmosphere. I have been at football matches where

:14:50. > :14:54.the atmosphere has been more poisonous, but to have people

:14:55. > :14:57.throwing bottles at a bus is clearly unacceptable. I'm glad that West Ham

:14:58. > :15:00.have released that statement this morning confirming that they will

:15:01. > :15:06.try and find the people responsible and ban them for life. I also woke

:15:07. > :15:09.up this morning Ore wondering why the Manchester United coach was

:15:10. > :15:14.there at that time. So close to kick-off. Look, this was a game

:15:15. > :15:17.which was unusual. So many thousands of peck spators outside the ground.

:15:18. > :15:21.Many it come for the occasion without tickets and clearly, on some

:15:22. > :15:27.level, there was a big breakdown in planning for that coach to be there

:15:28. > :15:30.at that time. Joe, thank you very much, indeed. Those scenes marred

:15:31. > :15:34.what should have been a special occasion for West Ham. We will tell

:15:35. > :15:37.you what happened on the pitch in our next bulletin in a few minutes

:15:38. > :15:44.time. Victoria, back to you. Cheers, Ore. Martin e-mails, "Maybe at 90

:15:45. > :15:49.years of age, the Queen feels it is time to be less guarded."

:15:50. > :15:51.First this morning, can we inherit mental illness from our parents?

:15:52. > :15:56.What role do genes play when it comes to our mental health?

:15:57. > :15:58.And how does that compare to life events?

:15:59. > :16:00.Our reporter James Longman experiences depression -

:16:01. > :16:03.his father and grandfather also both took their own lives - and he's been

:16:04. > :16:35.Found it. " In cherished memory of Eric James Longman and John James

:16:36. > :16:49.Longman". That is my grandfather and my dad. My grandfather died in 1979,

:16:50. > :16:56.and then my dad in 1996. And they both took their own lives. And it is

:16:57. > :17:02.weird, standing here, I am named after both of them, seeing my name

:17:03. > :17:07.on that grave, James. My grandfather discovered he had bone cancer and

:17:08. > :17:13.sadly shot himself. When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

:17:14. > :17:21.set light to his flat and died. Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of

:17:22. > :17:22.depression. How do we inherit, do we inherit mental health issues? I'd

:17:23. > :17:39.like to know. So, is it in our genes? This is DNA,

:17:40. > :17:43.the genetic instructions each of us has, which store all of our

:17:44. > :17:48.biological information. These strands are made up of about 20,000

:17:49. > :17:52.genes. Genes are essentially codes that control the developer of

:17:53. > :17:57.everything in our bodies. So how do they affect mental health? I am

:17:58. > :18:02.Cathryn Lewis, professor of statistical genetics at Kings

:18:03. > :18:05.College London. For mental health disorders, and actually most

:18:06. > :18:09.physical disorders, most of the diseases that are a real problem for

:18:10. > :18:14.us in society, a problem for the health service, are not about a

:18:15. > :18:21.single gene, but they are about a collection of genes. And that

:18:22. > :18:25.collection so far includes at least nine genes in which some changes are

:18:26. > :18:30.more common in people with depression, 20 in those with bipolar

:18:31. > :18:36.disorder, and 108 in people who have schizophrenia.

:18:37. > :18:45.I remember him as being very kind of eccentric. He was very cool, he

:18:46. > :18:50.always wore a denim shirt and tight denim jeans, and everyone thought he

:18:51. > :18:55.was really dashing. We either lies people once they are gone, I think.

:18:56. > :19:01.And if I do have parts of his personality, I think that's really

:19:02. > :19:05.great. -- we idolise people. That is a Catch-22, am I like him in a good

:19:06. > :19:12.way but also like him in a bad way, in the way that he suffered? At the

:19:13. > :19:17.crux of when I get down, I think is this happening to me because of my

:19:18. > :19:21.dad? And then it stops you being able to get over it, because you

:19:22. > :19:28.think this was meant to happen to me, I am meant to feel this way,

:19:29. > :19:34.there isn't a way out. So, what about a brother and sister? One has

:19:35. > :19:39.mental illness and one doesn't. I am Johnny, I have been diagnosed with

:19:40. > :19:48.bipolar disorder. I am Lucy, I am Johnny's twin sister and I am not

:19:49. > :19:56.bipolar. When I have a bad episode, I'm not able to drag myself out of

:19:57. > :19:59.bed. There are lots of physical aspects of feeling what people are

:20:00. > :20:03.trying to call mentally unwell here. It is to do with your overall mood,

:20:04. > :20:08.which affect your whole body as well, just wanted to throw that in

:20:09. > :20:12.there. Also, you do see the world physically darker, it is a weird

:20:13. > :20:18.thing. Colours are less bright, somehow. It is a very strange thing

:20:19. > :20:22.to explain to people. It is most like all of your senses. I would

:20:23. > :20:26.like to talk about your diagnosis and what that meant for you, to hear

:20:27. > :20:31.that you perhaps had bipolar, and you had something which your mother

:20:32. > :20:35.had. Oh my goodness, so many different emotions, and intellectual

:20:36. > :20:48.responses that you go through. At the time, I cried with relief. My

:20:49. > :20:52.mother has been diagnosed with bipolar and so have I. But I feel

:20:53. > :20:56.like they are not the same conditions, it is hard to explain,

:20:57. > :21:02.because every mental health condition is unique to that person.

:21:03. > :21:08.A bit like our own personalities are unique. When people talk about

:21:09. > :21:11.genetics and mental health, they also talk a lot about the

:21:12. > :21:19.environment, and people's upbringing. What is the relationship

:21:20. > :21:23.between your genes and the environment? We know that all of

:21:24. > :21:27.these disorders have both a genetic and an environmental contribution to

:21:28. > :21:30.them, nature or nurture, and the imbalance of the importance of those

:21:31. > :21:36.berries across different diseases, it can vary in individuals. It seems

:21:37. > :21:41.having a parent with a mental illness canning crease your risk of

:21:42. > :21:44.developing one too, through your genes and your environment. If you

:21:45. > :21:49.have a depressed parent, you are twice as likely to experience

:21:50. > :21:52.depression. With bipolar, you are four times at risk, and in

:21:53. > :21:56.schizophrenia, which my dad had, it is eight times. Over the years, you

:21:57. > :22:03.have seen your mum and what she has had to deal with, and your brother.

:22:04. > :22:10.Do you ever ask why not me? Green yes! Yes, I think when I was younger

:22:11. > :22:16.it was there would be a slight anxiety of Will it be me? Even

:22:17. > :22:22.though I think at the same time I always knew it wouldn't be. What do

:22:23. > :22:26.you worry about, hope for, think about, about the next generation in

:22:27. > :22:30.your family? When you are projecting to be a father you think, oh God,

:22:31. > :22:34.I'm not going to be up to do this, not going to be offered to do that.

:22:35. > :22:39.All guys I have spoken to worry about being a dad, and then it

:22:40. > :22:44.happens and you are just in it. But I did think, yes, can I be a father

:22:45. > :22:53.as somebody with mental health problems? What if this comes back

:22:54. > :23:00.again? Can I not be a good dad? You might be a better dad for it. Yes, I

:23:01. > :23:04.think that is the feeling. Awareness of what could mental health is as

:23:05. > :23:07.half the battle to it. Given what our family has gone through we have

:23:08. > :23:11.a very good awareness of it, and I would like to think my children from

:23:12. > :23:15.a very young age are being taught and awareness of what could mental

:23:16. > :23:18.health is, but I do think about it and I think it would be silly not to

:23:19. > :23:27.be prepared for the fact that one of my children may live with a mental

:23:28. > :23:31.health issue. In making this film, I have discovered it wasn't just that

:23:32. > :23:39.he set fire to his flat, but he threw himself out the window as

:23:40. > :23:47.well. And that was a bit of a shock. I just felt terribly sad. I just

:23:48. > :23:56.felt terribly sad, I just think about himself on his own in the

:23:57. > :24:04.flat. And he wasn't able to get out of the place he was in, in his head.

:24:05. > :24:09.Scientists are working on new ways of dealing with mental illness, ways

:24:10. > :24:14.that weren't available to my dad. I've been given unique access to a

:24:15. > :24:17.new brain training programme at Kings College London. Doctors hope

:24:18. > :24:26.this new technique could stop people with depression, like from having

:24:27. > :24:30.repeated blows. I am a senior clinical psychiatrist at Kings

:24:31. > :24:35.College London. In the brain is where biology and psychology meet,

:24:36. > :24:38.because the brain changes in response to your learning

:24:39. > :24:41.experiences, and that is why the changes we have found people with

:24:42. > :24:47.depression, I think they are reversible, because connectivity in

:24:48. > :24:52.the brain is a learning signal, so it should be possible to relearn

:24:53. > :24:55.that. Scientists highlighted a specific emotion, guilt, because

:24:56. > :25:00.they say people at risk of depression often feel guilt more

:25:01. > :25:03.strongly than others. When they do, connections in their brain are

:25:04. > :25:07.overactive much more than in people who don't have depression. The

:25:08. > :25:11.researchers therefore hope that training your brain to not feel

:25:12. > :25:17.guilt could help prevent depressive episodes. I had given the team some

:25:18. > :25:22.trigger words to make me feel guilty. That is something a lot of

:25:23. > :25:26.depressed people feel, including me, when we are low. As they appear on

:25:27. > :25:30.the screen in front of me, my brain reacts. I am then told to think

:25:31. > :25:36.about forgiving myself to try and think that reaction away. So James

:25:37. > :25:40.has started his second training run, and we can see the thermometer going

:25:41. > :25:44.up again, because he seems to be doing very well in bringing down the

:25:45. > :25:51.level of connections between these regions, the connectivity. So I have

:25:52. > :25:55.just had my results here at Kings from the MRI scan I had. They just

:25:56. > :25:59.e-mailed it to me. It says it is good news. They have established

:26:00. > :26:02.that the connectivity in my brain, as they would expect with someone

:26:03. > :26:06.with depression was quite high before, but there may they put me

:26:07. > :26:09.through the training and I was able to lower that connectivity, which

:26:10. > :26:13.means I was able to reduce the feeling of guilt. It is pretty

:26:14. > :26:19.amazing. They have managed to find a way to prove, through science, that

:26:20. > :26:25.feeling self forgiveness can actually heal your brain. I am and

:26:26. > :26:32.Longman, James's mother. When an episode comes on, the symptoms are

:26:33. > :26:39.obvious, and I remember you were present once, and you said to me,

:26:40. > :26:48.mummy, mummy, daddy's being horrible to me? Do you remember that? How old

:26:49. > :26:54.was I then? Oh dear, five maybe? Because he was hearing voices? He

:26:55. > :26:57.was hearing voices, and I remember him saying, this goes for you,

:26:58. > :27:03.James, as well. So that frightens you, it is very frightening. Him and

:27:04. > :27:07.me together, did that frighten you? That did, and that is why family

:27:08. > :27:12.life developed the way it did, because I felt my Judy was to keep

:27:13. > :27:20.you safe. Tell me about the day he died? What do you remember about the

:27:21. > :27:24.day he died? I remember receiving a phone call, and I just went into

:27:25. > :27:29.total shock, and then I burst into sobs, and I couldn't stop sobbing. I

:27:30. > :27:35.felt I had been a failure and I hadn't saved him. Do you remember

:27:36. > :27:41.being at school and coming to tell me about it? I do, you were a lovely

:27:42. > :27:46.little boy in your royal blue blazer, and you sat on my knee, and

:27:47. > :27:49.I can still see your little feet swinging, oh my me, why? And you

:27:50. > :27:59.were in shock actually, you weren't crying. And I was told by matron

:28:00. > :28:11.that at night you would cry and punch the pillow, saying daddy,

:28:12. > :28:18.daddy, daddy. I was died? Yes, no, ten. We both suffer with depression.

:28:19. > :28:25.Yes. Do you think there is something in our family, mentally illness? A

:28:26. > :28:35.lot. All the time. Because there are many examples of it in his family.

:28:36. > :28:40.And maybe in mind, I don't know. The worry I had was that you would

:28:41. > :28:47.develop a psychotic illness, like your father. So when you look at

:28:48. > :28:56.daddy, and you look at me,. Yes, sometimes your eyes are a bit of a

:28:57. > :29:01.giveaway, your look, I can see you are troubled. But he would be very

:29:02. > :29:04.proud of you down, very, very proud, because you are doing the things he

:29:05. > :29:14.would never have been able to achieve. So what have I learnt? Life

:29:15. > :29:19.experience and what we inherit from our parents both play an important

:29:20. > :29:23.role. The possibility of mental health illness can be passed on

:29:24. > :29:27.through the generations, but it is life events, and maybe sometimes

:29:28. > :29:30.just luck, that determines who is affected, and scientists are getting

:29:31. > :29:35.closer to figuring out how that works. I don't know what might

:29:36. > :29:39.happen in the future. I don't know if my kids will feel the way I do

:29:40. > :29:44.sometimes, but I know more about what my family has dealt with, and

:29:45. > :29:49.somehow I feel closer to my dad. I feel more positive. Dental health

:29:50. > :29:55.illness might run in my family, but the consequences don't have do. --

:29:56. > :29:58.mental health illness. Thank you very much for your comments on this.

:29:59. > :30:08.Sarah says this is excellent, thank you for this film. This tweet from

:30:09. > :30:12.safe haven, mental health illness always comes up when talking with

:30:13. > :30:19.friends, usually a yes, but it is really good to see reporters opening

:30:20. > :30:22.up about this. This text says I was diagnosed with paranoid

:30:23. > :30:27.schizophrenia in 2000. My son was diagnosed with bipolar. It would be

:30:28. > :30:31.a blow to find out it is hereditary. My brain is a complex of pathways

:30:32. > :30:38.and I do believe it is possible though. Anne agrees it could be

:30:39. > :30:42.inherited, I think so, my father gets morose, a sister with

:30:43. > :30:45.depression, an over alcoholic brothers and nephews. I have been on

:30:46. > :30:51.antidepressants than nine years. This tweet from Colin, you know what

:30:52. > :30:53.can be inherited? Stigma, and that can lead to metal health issues by

:30:54. > :31:06.social influence. Thank you for those. Your personal

:31:07. > :31:10.experiences will feed into the conversation we will have after

:31:11. > :31:14.10am. It is really worth emphasising yes, the evidence suggests having a

:31:15. > :31:18.parent with a mental health illness increases your risk of developing

:31:19. > :31:28.one, but you're still more likely not to develop one.

:31:29. > :31:31.In the next hour we'll chat to a father and son

:31:32. > :31:33.who both have bipolar - about their concerns for the next

:31:34. > :31:38.If you want to share that film you can find it on our programme

:31:39. > :31:42.If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in our film

:31:43. > :31:44.and are looking for further help, support or information on mental

:31:45. > :31:48.health then please call the BBC Action Line on 08000 564 756 or head

:31:49. > :32:04.Every day we are hearing fairly apocalyptic claims over whether we

:32:05. > :32:08.should leave or stay in the European Union. Poverty, house prices

:32:09. > :32:13.falling, uncontrolled immigration to name a few. Are those claims putting

:32:14. > :32:17.you off the whole debate? That's what a few of have told us.

:32:18. > :32:18.We will put those points to the campaign nears the next half an

:32:19. > :32:22.hour. And West Ham's final

:32:23. > :32:24.night at Upton Park is overshadowed by violence

:32:25. > :32:27.despite a thrilling 3-2 victory. We'll hear from fans

:32:28. > :32:33.and journalists at the game. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:32:34. > :32:39.with a summary of today's news. The Queen has been filmed describing

:32:40. > :32:44.Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

:32:45. > :32:55.to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

:32:56. > :32:58.party yesterday by the official Buckingham palace cameraman

:32:59. > :33:01.during a conversation between the Queen and the officer

:33:02. > :33:06.in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

:33:07. > :33:08.David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

:33:09. > :33:09."fantastically corrupt", A report has warned that

:33:10. > :33:15.many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

:33:16. > :33:18.the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

:33:19. > :33:21.investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

:33:22. > :33:31.and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

:33:32. > :33:34.services which it says The NHS says improvements

:33:35. > :33:39.are underway. Thousands of suspected and convicted

:33:40. > :33:41.criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

:33:42. > :33:43.murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

:33:44. > :33:49.more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

:33:50. > :33:51.warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

:33:52. > :34:01.fear justice will not be done. Heathrow Airport has promised to ban

:34:02. > :34:04.night flights and to accept tougher controls on noise levels,

:34:05. > :34:06.if it's allowed to It's part of its campaign

:34:07. > :34:14.to convince the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

:34:15. > :34:16.for the location of a new runway. Gatwick has responded saying

:34:17. > :34:19.an expanded Heathrow will affect hundreds of thousands of people

:34:20. > :34:23.with noise and pollution. The Vote Leave Campaign will begin

:34:24. > :34:26.its tour of the UK this morning, ahead of next month's referendum

:34:27. > :34:28.on the EU. Before setting off on the battlebus

:34:29. > :34:30.in Truro in Cornwall, Boris Johnson said voters should

:34:31. > :34:33.focus on the fundamental issues, rather than infighting

:34:34. > :34:40.within the Conservative Party. This is a referendum about -

:34:41. > :34:43.taking back control of ?350 million a week

:34:44. > :34:45.which we could spend according it our priorities

:34:46. > :34:48.here in this country. It's about taking back control

:34:49. > :34:56.of our borders and I think it's about getting back control

:34:57. > :34:58.of British democracy and I believe I have got many, many wonderful,

:34:59. > :35:03.happy memories of living and Most of my family come from one

:35:04. > :35:13.European country or another. Of course, we love Europe,

:35:14. > :35:15.but there is a difference between Europe and the institutions

:35:16. > :35:18.of the European Union. Detectives in the US state

:35:19. > :35:20.of Minnesota have questioned a doctor who saw the singer Prince

:35:21. > :35:23.twice in the weeks before he died.A police warrant reveals

:35:24. > :35:25.Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed medication to the 57-year-old star

:35:26. > :35:28.the day before he died last month. It doesn't say what was prescribed,

:35:29. > :35:36.or whether Prince took the drugs. An Indian woman has become a mother

:35:37. > :35:40.for the first time at the age of 72. Daljinder Kaur gave birth to a baby

:35:41. > :35:42.boy last month following two years of IVF treatment,

:35:43. > :35:45.according to her fertility clinic. She and her 79-year-old husband have

:35:46. > :35:54.been married for 46 years. That's a summary of

:35:55. > :35:57.the latest BBC News. In the last half an hour, England

:35:58. > :36:11.women's captain Charlotte Edwards has announced her retirement

:36:12. > :36:13.from international cricket. In a 20-year England career,

:36:14. > :36:15.Edwards led her country to the 2009 World Cup and World T20 titles,

:36:16. > :36:32.also winning four Ashes West Ham say they will issue life

:36:33. > :36:38.bans for anyone found guilty of attacking the Manchester United team

:36:39. > :36:48.bus last night. The Hammers were 3-2 winners in their final game at the

:36:49. > :36:53.Bowling Ground. Roy Hodgson will announce his squad on Monday. His

:36:54. > :36:59.final 23 was due to be revealed on Thursday. And the England prop Joe

:37:00. > :37:03.marler says he is seeing a sports psychologist to address his lack of

:37:04. > :37:09.professional control. The Harlequins forward who was punish following an

:37:10. > :37:13.altercation with Wales forward Sam son Lee received another two week

:37:14. > :37:15.ban following violent conduct last month. That's your sports headlines

:37:16. > :37:27.for now. I will be back shortly. So many messages on depression and

:37:28. > :37:34.whether you believe it can be inherited.

:37:35. > :37:38."It is hereditary." Edward says, "What a fantastic film." You can see

:37:39. > :37:43.it on our programme page if you missed it. Robin says, "Brave, brave

:37:44. > :37:48.people sharing their stories about mental health." Steph says, "Both my

:37:49. > :37:54.parents had depression. I have depression and OCD. There is a

:37:55. > :38:00.predisposition to illnesses inherited" Kimberley says, "I have

:38:01. > :38:04.type one bipolar. My brother has bipolar type two. My father has

:38:05. > :38:08.something on the spectrum disorder. It has never been diagnosed and our

:38:09. > :38:12.mother suffers from depression. Environmental factors both my

:38:13. > :38:16.brother and I were sexually abused growing up and our childhood was

:38:17. > :38:20.quite abusive." More on that after 10am this morning.

:38:21. > :38:23.On Monday it was war, on Tuesday it was poverty.

:38:24. > :38:24.Who knows what claims and counter-claims we'll hear

:38:25. > :38:27.from both sides in the EU referendum campaign today.

:38:28. > :38:30.On some occasions in the last few weeks, it seems the hyperbole

:38:31. > :38:33.between the two sides - to get their point across -

:38:34. > :38:35.has reached levels of drama that wouldn't seem out of place

:38:36. > :38:39.And in case you can't quite remember what's been said,

:38:40. > :39:36.Can we be so sure that peace and stability on our Continent are

:39:37. > :39:43.assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking? The EU

:39:44. > :39:50.itself and its anti-democratic tendencies that are now a force for

:39:51. > :39:54.instability and alienation. The last thing on earth Churchill would have

:39:55. > :39:59.been an isolationist, to want to stand apart from Europe right now at

:40:00. > :40:02.a difficult time. I mean, there is something awfully un-British in my

:40:03. > :40:07.view about wanting to leave. One of the striking things about the EU is

:40:08. > :40:12.that it brought economic insecurity and massive youth unemployment.

:40:13. > :40:17.Think about the history as we come up to the anniversary of the Battle

:40:18. > :40:20.of the Somme as we think about World War II and contrast the peace and

:40:21. > :40:28.stability in Europe for example with the instability and war we see in

:40:29. > :40:32.the Middle East. The EU, despite its early, grand intentions has become,

:40:33. > :40:37.I believe, a friend of the haves rather than a friend of the have

:40:38. > :40:42.notes. If we retain that united Europe then Nato itself is stronger.

:40:43. > :40:46.The European Union and Europe itself is stronger and our enemies, or at

:40:47. > :40:50.least those who prowl around our borders trying to take advantage of

:40:51. > :40:53.any opportunities like Mr Putin will be weaker. Instability is already

:40:54. > :40:56.there in Europe. You look at what is happening in the Continent now. Some

:40:57. > :41:00.of those nationalist tendencies that led to us conflict in the past are

:41:01. > :41:04.being re-created, we are seeing the rise of extremist parties in Europe.

:41:05. > :41:07.Why? Because of the democratic deficit. Britain would be

:41:08. > :41:12.permanently poorer if we left the European Union. Under any

:41:13. > :41:16.alternative, we would trade less, we would do less business. There would

:41:17. > :41:20.be less investment and the price would be paid by British families.

:41:21. > :41:25.The idea that if Britain voted to leave the European Union, we would

:41:26. > :41:29.be instantly become some sort of hermit kingdom, a North Atlantic

:41:30. > :41:33.North Korea only without that country's fund of international

:41:34. > :41:33.goodwill. LAUGHTER

:41:34. > :41:57.Is a fantasy of the it is a phantom. Well, we have representatives

:41:58. > :41:59.from the two official campaigns. Vote Leave's Suzanne Evans,

:42:00. > :42:01.UKIP's parliamentary spokesperson, she wants you to vote

:42:02. > :42:03.to leave the European Union; and Stronger In Britain's Emma

:42:04. > :42:06.Reynolds, a Labour MP and former She wants you to vote

:42:07. > :42:09.to stay in the EU. But first let's hear from four

:42:10. > :42:11.undecided voters Ryan Gray, Ammani Ahmed, Muyeewaa Adigun,and

:42:12. > :42:21.from Bristol is Ben Crowden. Ben, I'm going to start with you

:42:22. > :42:24.because you were for staying in and now you say you're utterly

:42:25. > :42:31.undecided. How come? That's right, yes. The thing is I see well, well I

:42:32. > :42:35.originally saw Remain as the status quo, but I think the more this

:42:36. > :42:40.campaign has gone on, the more I've realised and the claims I'm hearing

:42:41. > :42:43.from both sides about whether it will be all-out conflict and World

:42:44. > :42:47.War three or whatever, whether we vote to leave or stay in, there is

:42:48. > :42:51.no status quo. Things will, you know, be changed beyond anything we

:42:52. > :42:58.can understand really. Beyond anything we can understand? That

:42:59. > :43:02.sounds a bit apocalyptic. I didn't mean to sound apocalyptic. You are

:43:03. > :43:08.undecided, but leaning to stay in, I think, what do you think of the

:43:09. > :43:13.campaigning on both sides so far? I don't like Brexit's scaremongering

:43:14. > :43:19.tactics and... Suzanne Evans is on the Brexit side. Tell her what you

:43:20. > :43:23.think is scare mongery about it? You need to be scared if we don't leave

:43:24. > :43:28.and this is going to happen. I don't like as well now how the Remain side

:43:29. > :43:32.is starting to do it because they are steeping towards that level and

:43:33. > :43:36.I don't agree with that. I think it should be, I think there needs to be

:43:37. > :43:40.a lot more independent, unbiassed facts and statistics coming out to

:43:41. > :43:43.actually educate people. How would you know if it was independent and

:43:44. > :43:47.unbiassed? That's the thing. We don't right now. I know there is

:43:48. > :43:50.some academics, natural they're going to have a bias and you had

:43:51. > :43:54.can't really stop that, but to try and make more effort to do it. As a

:43:55. > :43:59.student, there are a lot of people who kind of, you know, don't care or

:44:00. > :44:05.they're not interested because they just think, politics, boring. Now,

:44:06. > :44:09.you are entirely undecided. Yeah. Tell me what you think of the

:44:10. > :44:13.campaigning? Both campaigns have really kind of gone for the

:44:14. > :44:17.scaremongering tacticsment they are saying the same thing. What scared

:44:18. > :44:19.you the most? Both are saying it is a security riskment both are saying

:44:20. > :44:24.we are going to lose money. Both are saying we're going to lose jobs.

:44:25. > :44:28.Maybe, it is true. Maybe it is true, nobody talked about the average

:44:29. > :44:31.person on the street how the EU affects them and that's where they

:44:32. > :44:36.fail to connect with the people that the EU at the end of the day is

:44:37. > :44:41.about the people. How does it affect the ordinary British person. It is

:44:42. > :44:45.all on the mac roe scale and never on the micro. Ryan, what do you

:44:46. > :44:50.think of the campaign? Let's just tell our audience where you are,

:44:51. > :44:55.you're undecided, but tempted by the Leave side at this point? I think I

:44:56. > :45:00.agree with Ben, the status quo is going to change. One thing I found

:45:01. > :45:03.annoying on both sides is that, the almost fantasy of claiming that

:45:04. > :45:07.everything is going to be rosy on the other side. Either we're going

:45:08. > :45:12.to leave and there is going to be loads of trade deals or the Remain,

:45:13. > :45:19.suddenly we're going to have this unique partnership in Europe when

:45:20. > :45:22.judging by Juncker and everyone there is, there is a lot of

:45:23. > :45:26.scaremongering, I'm tiptoeing whether I will vote to leave or

:45:27. > :45:31.remain. I may not vote at all. Really, why? I feel voting for

:45:32. > :45:36.either side at the moment endorses their side and that kind of vision.

:45:37. > :45:39.I'm not bought in by either side. I'm leaning towards leave, but not

:45:40. > :45:45.enough to go out and actually vote leave. That would be a huge shame.

:45:46. > :45:49.We can agree on that. If not anything else. Don't let other

:45:50. > :45:52.people decide for you. Every person's vote counts, equally and I

:45:53. > :45:55.hope that the younger up and coming generation will vote in great

:45:56. > :45:59.numbers in this referendum because whatever we decide is going to

:46:00. > :46:03.affect you for generations to come. Do you accept Ryan's point, a curse

:46:04. > :46:09.on both your houses because he is not impressed? What disappointed

:46:10. > :46:14.most about this campaign, there are risks either way because none of

:46:15. > :46:17.have a crystal ball and none of us can look into the future. What Ben

:46:18. > :46:20.said about the status quo is a fact. Neither side can look into the

:46:21. > :46:23.picture and say this is what will happen which is why I was it is

:46:24. > :46:26.pointed to hear George Osborne for instance in the clip you played

:46:27. > :46:30.saying the economy will crash, there will be unemployment. He doesn't

:46:31. > :46:34.know, you know, George Osborne has missed every economic prediction he

:46:35. > :46:45.made since he became chancellor. That's with what he would call the

:46:46. > :46:51.status quo. Instead we have had to find ourselves responding to this

:46:52. > :46:55.enormous scaremongering from the Remain camp. You haven't had to, you

:46:56. > :47:00.have made a decision to respond in a way. People are frightened. If the

:47:01. > :47:08.Prime Minister stands up and says there will be World War III, what

:47:09. > :47:14.are we supposed to do? He didn't quite say that. If Nigel Farage

:47:15. > :47:20.stands up and says if Turkey joins the EU, 35mm could come to live --

:47:21. > :47:27.75 million people could come to live in Britain. That is a fact. 75

:47:28. > :47:33.million people will not. It is not a fact then. They won't all, let's be

:47:34. > :47:37.honest, but they will have the right, once Turkey becomes a full

:47:38. > :47:41.member of the European Union. I'm sorry, but are not taking lessons

:47:42. > :47:46.from Ukip and Nigel Farage about scaremongering. They have been doing

:47:47. > :47:49.it for years. I hope we can lead with the positives, and the big

:47:50. > :47:54.positive Slammy our jobs and investments, they are attractive to

:47:55. > :47:58.the UK. But then you must be really disappointed with the main figures

:47:59. > :48:03.in your campaign who are using scare tactics? I think there is a

:48:04. > :48:09.difference about pointing out some of the risks and scaremongering. I

:48:10. > :48:12.think we attract jobs and investment because of our membership of the

:48:13. > :48:16.European Union, I believe in that. The corollary of that is that if we

:48:17. > :48:21.leave some of those things will be at risk. I wouldn't say that is

:48:22. > :48:25.scaremongering. George Osborne goes on the television on Sunday morning,

:48:26. > :48:29.and says if we leave the single market it will be a catastrophe.

:48:30. > :48:32.Which it went of course because there are plenty of countries in the

:48:33. > :48:37.single market not in the European Union. I hope we remain in the

:48:38. > :48:43.single market, and I do think there are big risks if we leave, for jobs

:48:44. > :48:48.and investment. But a catastrophe? Do you acknowledge that is

:48:49. > :48:50.scaremongering? We don't know. That is part of a problem for votes

:48:51. > :48:59.leave. People want to know what will happen

:49:00. > :49:02.if we do leave. Do you want to know what politicians think, what

:49:03. > :49:07.business leaders think, what the president of the United States

:49:08. > :49:12.think? Who do you want to, or would you rather hear from Jason do real

:49:13. > :49:18.on what he thinks or Calvin Harris? I am making the point facetiously in

:49:19. > :49:23.order to see what you think. I think it is useful to hear politicians on

:49:24. > :49:26.both sides, particularly Leave, because it is likely to be those

:49:27. > :49:32.politicians who will the go she ate the Leave deal. President Obama, he

:49:33. > :49:38.doesn't have a say, he doesn't have a vote, he has America's interests

:49:39. > :49:42.at heart, not ours. Who do you want to hear from? I liked hearing from

:49:43. > :49:49.Obama actually because I quite like him. I am studying US politics. Like

:49:50. > :49:56.I said earlier about being independent, I like hearing about

:49:57. > :49:59.politicians, and I don't want them to exaggerate the minor it is

:50:00. > :50:03.natural, it is kind of in their being, and to make it a bigger deal

:50:04. > :50:09.may be. But what you were saying about business and the EU and trade,

:50:10. > :50:15.I think it is more difficult to predict if we left the EU what would

:50:16. > :50:20.happen. Saying before about we can't predict it, but it is easy to

:50:21. > :50:24.predict, and I think we have that financial security. Do you

:50:25. > :50:30.understand what the European Union is all about ultimately? I am not

:50:31. > :50:34.trying to scaremonger here, it is written in black and white, you are

:50:35. > :50:42.a politics Juden so I'm sure you have the wherewithal -- student. The

:50:43. > :50:46.directory of travel is towards a United States of Europe, that is

:50:47. > :50:50.what it is all about, not a nation of different nations but a single

:50:51. > :50:59.United States of Europe. The Germans and the French don't want to give up

:51:00. > :51:04.their armies, they are not going to. Who do you feel you can trust?

:51:05. > :51:07.Everyone has a right to their opinion, that is the same reason we

:51:08. > :51:11.are hearing from, I want to hear from a technocratic point of view,

:51:12. > :51:16.experts, but I feel that politicians opinions have been skewed by the

:51:17. > :51:18.party line. David Cameron is in an awkward position because he can't

:51:19. > :51:23.speak out because here is diminishing his own party. Even

:51:24. > :51:27.Jeremy Corbyn as well, he is going against David Cameron, who is also

:51:28. > :51:33.in the end campaign, so it is really awkward to get politicians's

:51:34. > :51:40.authentic campaign. Just pick up on that point, it feels like a

:51:41. > :51:45.competition for the conservative, for the leadership of the

:51:46. > :51:49.Conservatives. If we decide to stay in, we have got George Osborne or

:51:50. > :51:54.Theresa May, if we leave it as Michael Gove or Boris Johnson.

:51:55. > :52:04.I think it has turned people off. An e-mail here, I can't help wondering

:52:05. > :52:10.when the floods will return, an asteroid will strike or an alien

:52:11. > :52:15.invasion will start. David Cameron has come up with every thing else. I

:52:16. > :52:16.was quite content to stay in until all of the scaremongering. I will

:52:17. > :52:19.now vote to leave. And if you want your voice heard

:52:20. > :52:22.on the EU referendum, why not take part in one of our big audience

:52:23. > :52:25.debates on the issue? We're in Glasgow on the 26th May

:52:26. > :52:28.with an audience debate If you're aged 18 to 29

:52:29. > :52:33.and can get to Glasgow, do email victoria@bbc.co.uk

:52:34. > :52:35.to have your chance to quiz senior politicians from the leave

:52:36. > :52:37.and remain campaigns. The debate will be broadcast

:52:38. > :52:40.live on BBC One at 8pm. And on the 6th June we're

:52:41. > :52:43.in Manchester for another debate This one is open to everyone

:52:44. > :52:48.and will take place in our normal Again, email

:52:49. > :52:58.victoria@bbc.co.uk to apply. It's not very often we get to see

:52:59. > :53:01.the Queen being indiscreet - but she's now been caught

:53:02. > :53:05.on microphone at a Buckingham Palace garden party describing Chinese

:53:06. > :53:07.officials as "very rude" - She was talking to a senior police

:53:08. > :53:55.officer about the Chinese President And she's not the only one to be

:53:56. > :54:00.caught on camera saying something David Cameron will be welcoming

:54:01. > :54:08.leaders of Commonwealth countries to London today for a conference

:54:09. > :54:10.that starts tomorrow on how He'll have some explaining to do

:54:11. > :54:14.when he shakes hands with Nigeria's president after what he said

:54:15. > :54:16.to the Queen yesterday. He was caught on camera

:54:17. > :54:19.telling her the two most corrupt countries in the world

:54:20. > :54:21.were Nigeria and Afghanistan. "They're "fantastically corrupt"

:54:22. > :54:32.were his exact words. A very successful antique corruption

:54:33. > :54:38.Cabinet this morning, actually we have the leaders of some

:54:39. > :54:43.fantastically corrupt countries in the world, Nigeria and Afghanistan,

:54:44. > :54:49.perhaps two of the most corrupt countries in the world. But the

:54:50. > :54:57.president of Nigeria is not corrupt. Because it is an anti-corruption

:54:58. > :55:01.summit, there are no closed doors, it could be quite interesting.

:55:02. > :55:03.Understandably, Nigeria aren't too pleased with his comments.

:55:04. > :55:04.Speaking through his spokesman, Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari

:55:05. > :55:06.said his government was deeply 'shocked and embarassed'

:55:07. > :55:18.TRANSLATION: It is disturbing that despite all of the efforts made by

:55:19. > :55:23.the President in fighting corruption in Nigeria, his efforts have gone

:55:24. > :55:26.unnoticed. It is possible that the Prime Minister was caught unawares,

:55:27. > :55:28.or he was referring to how things were done in the past, without

:55:29. > :55:30.considering what is being done now. the director of the China Insitute

:55:31. > :55:34.at the School of Oriental and African Studies and Manji Cheto

:55:35. > :55:37.who's a Nigeria expert for the consultancy firm,

:55:38. > :55:48.Teneo Intelligence. Thank you both for coming on the

:55:49. > :55:52.programme. Michel, first of all, what do you think about what the

:55:53. > :55:56.Queen has had to say? I am surprised. That is the thing, we

:55:57. > :55:58.don't really know what this is about, something happened at

:55:59. > :56:02.Lancaster house, the Chinese delegation walked out on the Chinese

:56:03. > :56:07.ambassador, and we don't know why. It was perceived as rude, but for

:56:08. > :56:10.them to walk out of a meeting like that, something must have triggered

:56:11. > :56:14.that, so presumably something was done that set that for the Chinese

:56:15. > :56:18.side, so it is a big mystery, actually. But what do you think of

:56:19. > :56:23.the Queen being caught on camera expressing the fact she thought the

:56:24. > :56:27.officials were rude. I can tell you what Chinese social media thought

:56:28. > :56:33.about it, some of them are picking up on the fact that it seems that it

:56:34. > :56:41.was a scripted, session, some of the comments were read out. They thought

:56:42. > :56:45.it was scripted? The fact it is caught on camera, being put in the

:56:46. > :56:50.public domain, so some people are saying that the Queen turned out to

:56:51. > :56:54.be just another politician anyway. I think Chinese people are quite

:56:55. > :56:57.sensitive to how media and government interact, because of how

:56:58. > :57:00.things are in their country. Other people are saying we are always

:57:01. > :57:04.worried about our politicians not knowing how to behave in civilised

:57:05. > :57:12.countries like the UK, and this just proves they still have a lot to

:57:13. > :57:18.learn, so a mixture of concern. In Nigeria in particular, is this a PR

:57:19. > :57:27.hick up or a PR disaster? I think it is a PR disaster. But it is true

:57:28. > :57:30.though, isn't it? The reaction from Nigeria has been Mr David Cameron,

:57:31. > :57:35.thank you Patel telling us what we know, no one more than Nigerians

:57:36. > :57:40.understand the endemic corruption in the country. But also people think

:57:41. > :57:44.there is a bit of hypocrisy, we know that, is how your government has

:57:45. > :57:48.helped Nigeria deal with corrupt money that has moved. If you look at

:57:49. > :57:51.it, most of the funds stolen in Nigeria or any other African country

:57:52. > :57:56.does not stay in stay in banks in that country, it moves into foreign

:57:57. > :58:00.banks, London and New York for example, and yet Nigerians are

:58:01. > :58:04.saying where are the prosecutions of the bankers, the lawyers, that

:58:05. > :58:09.facilitate the movement of that? So the best way to explain it is

:58:10. > :58:14.awkward for David Cameron. There is some movement from taxpayers here,

:58:15. > :58:17.asking if Mr Cameron, you think Nigeria is fantastically corrupt,

:58:18. > :58:21.why are we giving hundreds of billions of pounds worth of aid to

:58:22. > :58:28.Nigeria? Do you think that is a fair point? Yes, and in Nigeria able fill

:58:29. > :58:34.the same way. Why do you keep throwing money at Nigeria? The

:58:35. > :58:38.amount of British workers that go to support that age, it is fairly

:58:39. > :58:41.significant. I think a lot of Nigerians are saying fine, we accept

:58:42. > :58:44.that, but you need to tell us what your government is going to help and

:58:45. > :58:51.stem the outflow of money from Nigeria. This anti-corruption summit

:58:52. > :58:55.happening in London tomorrow, does it put any more pressure on the

:58:56. > :58:58.Nigerian government to do something to stop the corruption? The

:58:59. > :59:04.interesting thing is, the president will certainly argue he has been

:59:05. > :59:08.doing that. He has gone on a very public campaign. The Archbishop of

:59:09. > :59:13.Canterbury actually pointed that out to the Prime Minister and the Queen.

:59:14. > :59:17.Yes, the Nigerians could possibly say this, you think we are corrupt,

:59:18. > :59:20.I have been asking you for help on this and it is time for you to play

:59:21. > :59:24.your hands. That would be the Nigerian response. Thank you for

:59:25. > :59:26.both coming in. Coming up to ten o'clock in time for the latest

:59:27. > :59:34.weather. We have a lot of rain around this

:59:35. > :59:38.morning, the best part of an inch of rain across the Isle of Wight.

:59:39. > :59:42.Moving towards Wales. We have also got a lot of showers but not

:59:43. > :59:45.everywhere. The north of the country, particularly across

:59:46. > :59:48.Scotland, once again will see the lion share of the sunshine and the

:59:49. > :59:52.highest temperatures. Into the afternoon as the rain advances

:59:53. > :59:56.westward, it will be replaced by some torrential showers. Some of

:59:57. > :59:59.them will have some thunder and hail in bedded in them, but in between we

:00:00. > :00:02.will see a bitter brightness and some sunshine. The highest

:00:03. > :00:07.temperatures likely to be in the West Highlands, somewhere around 23,

:00:08. > :00:13.20 four Celsius. As we head into the evening and overnight period -- 24

:00:14. > :00:16.Celsius. More showers coming in across the South. Meanwhile, murky

:00:17. > :00:20.conditions like this morning and today generally across the newest

:00:21. > :00:23.channel, the Channel Islands and the south-west, and again a muggy night,

:00:24. > :00:27.except the far north where damages are coming down, and that is because

:00:28. > :00:31.we have a cold front heading southwards across the Northern isles

:00:32. > :00:35.tomorrow, bringing in some rain. But tomorrow, generally for the bulk of

:00:36. > :00:38.the UK, a dry day, more sunshine and fewer showers. Many of us will miss

:00:39. > :00:42.them and the highest averages tomorrow will be in the South.

:00:43. > :00:48.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme

:00:49. > :01:00.Our top story today - red faces all round?

:01:01. > :01:02.The Queen's been caught on camera describing Chinese officials

:01:03. > :01:05.as "very rude" and at the same time David Cameron's been caught

:01:06. > :01:07.telling her that Nigeria and Afghanistan were

:01:08. > :01:37.A lot of reaction from you. Laurie says, "David Cameron should be able

:01:38. > :01:41.to speak honestly about issues which exist. The Queen is within her right

:01:42. > :01:47.to comment. Why do you in news have to exploit this?" Steve says,

:01:48. > :01:50."Aren't people allowed to relax and peak it to reach other without it

:01:51. > :01:52.being broadcast?" Also on the programme -

:01:53. > :01:55.can you inherit mental illness My grandfather discovered he bone

:01:56. > :01:58.cancer and sadly shot himself. When I was nine, my father,

:01:59. > :02:00.who had schizophrenia, Now in my 20s, I myself get

:02:01. > :02:05.bouts of depression. Do we inherit mental health issues

:02:06. > :02:14.I'd like to know? West Ham promises life bans

:02:15. > :02:16.for supporters involved in violence Some fans threw bottles

:02:17. > :02:24.at the Manchester United team bus overshadowing the club's final match

:02:25. > :02:31.at the Boleyn. This is how Manchester United

:02:32. > :02:44.players reacted. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:02:45. > :02:50.Newsroom with a summary The Queen has been filmed describing

:02:51. > :02:54.Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

:02:55. > :03:04.to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

:03:05. > :03:08.party yesterday by the official Buckingham Palace cameraman

:03:09. > :03:10.during a conversation between Her Majesty and the officer

:03:11. > :03:13.in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

:03:14. > :03:15.David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

:03:16. > :03:17."fantastically corrupt", A report has warned that

:03:18. > :03:29.many of the most vulnerable hospital patients in England including

:03:30. > :03:32.the elderly and frail are being sent The independent ombudsman

:03:33. > :03:34.investigated 211 It also blamed poor planning

:03:35. > :03:40.and co-ordination between hospital staff and health and social care

:03:41. > :03:51.services, which it says The Department of Health called the

:03:52. > :03:54.failings unacceptable and it would ensure lessons are learnt.

:03:55. > :03:57.Thousands of suspected and convicted criminals who skipped court bail

:03:58. > :03:58.while facing charges including murder, child sex offences

:03:59. > :04:03.Figures obtained by the BBC show more than 13,000 people are subject

:04:04. > :04:04.to outstanding arrest warrants in England -

:04:05. > :04:10.Victims charities warned that people fear justice will not be done.

:04:11. > :04:12.Heathrow Airport has promised to extend the ban on night flights

:04:13. > :04:19.and to accept tougher controls on noise levels, if it's allowed

:04:20. > :04:24.It's part of its campaign to convince

:04:25. > :04:26.the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

:04:27. > :04:29.Gatwick has responded saying an expanded Heathrow will affect

:04:30. > :04:32.hundreds of thousands of people with noise and pollution.

:04:33. > :04:35.The Vote Leave Campaign will begin its tour of the UK this morning,

:04:36. > :04:37.ahead of next month's referendum on the EU.

:04:38. > :04:39.Before setting off on the battlebus in Truro in Cornwall,

:04:40. > :04:42.Boris Johnson said voters should focus on the fundamental issues,

:04:43. > :04:43.rather than infighting within the Conservative Party.

:04:44. > :04:47.This is a referendum about taking back control of ?350 million a week

:04:48. > :04:50.which we could spend according it our priorities

:04:51. > :04:56.It's about taking back control of our borders and I think it's

:04:57. > :04:59.about getting back control of British democracy and I believe

:05:00. > :05:04.I have got many, many wonderful, happy memories of living and

:05:05. > :05:08.Most of my family come from one European country or another.

:05:09. > :05:10.Of course, we love Europe, but there is a difference

:05:11. > :05:25.between Europe and the institutions of the European Union.

:05:26. > :05:27.Detectives in the US State of Minnesota have questioned

:05:28. > :05:30.a doctor who saw the singer Prince twice in the weeks before he died.

:05:31. > :05:32.A police warrant reveals Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed

:05:33. > :05:35.medication to the 57-year-old star the day before he died last month.

:05:36. > :05:42.It doesn't say what was prescribed, or whether Prince took the drugs.

:05:43. > :05:54.An Indian woman has become a mother for the first time at the age of 72.

:05:55. > :05:56.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:05:57. > :06:05.So many of you getting in touch. Mark e-mailed scth both my mother

:06:06. > :06:10.and father appear to have undiagnosed mental health issues. I,

:06:11. > :06:15.myself, have life long depression. I'm 50 now and my fear is my son

:06:16. > :06:19.will develop the same. However, the fact that my parents were undig

:06:20. > :06:23.knowed probably tipped the scales for me to develop the condition too.

:06:24. > :06:29.I suspect my son will have an advantage over me as I am aware of

:06:30. > :06:35.my condition. It may tip the scales away from a mental health issue for

:06:36. > :06:42.him." Tim says, "The film helped a lot. There is a history of suicide

:06:43. > :06:51.in my family. Someone mentioned stigma, you feel alone and helpless.

:06:52. > :06:56.Through well-informed television, it can help people feel they are not

:06:57. > :06:59.alone." This viewer says, "My family have a history of depression and

:07:00. > :07:05.I've learned to read the signs, it is important to catch it early. We

:07:06. > :07:08.need a word other than, "Mental" To describe this illness because that

:07:09. > :07:13.word gives the stigma attached to it." Jackie says, "I believe mental

:07:14. > :07:17.health disorders can be inherited, but environmental issues play a part

:07:18. > :07:22.too. I live with manic depression and my mum and grandfather lived

:07:23. > :07:28.with chronic depression and both had electric shock therapy. Thankfully,

:07:29. > :07:38.I am attempting to manage by disorder with medication." Paul

:07:39. > :07:42.says, "There is no doubt mental illness maybe triggered. There are

:07:43. > :07:46.traits which affect others, especially children." ." Get in

:07:47. > :07:48.touch with us throughout the morning.

:07:49. > :07:51.Use the hashtag Victoria Live and If you text, you will be charged

:07:52. > :08:04.Thanks Victoria. More on the story we broke.

:08:05. > :08:05.England women's captain Charlotte Edwards has

:08:06. > :08:07.announced her retirement from international cricket.

:08:08. > :08:09.After 20-years at the top, Edwards is the only player,

:08:10. > :08:11.male or female, to lead England 200 times.

:08:12. > :08:23.She says she believes "now is the right time

:08:24. > :08:26.to find a new captain" and leaves "proud of her contributiion

:08:27. > :08:30.Here are a few highlights in what's been a legendary innings.

:08:31. > :08:32.Edwards made her international debut against New Zealand in 1996,

:08:33. > :08:34.becoming the youngest player to represent England.

:08:35. > :08:37.She hit her highest ODI score of 173 not out against Ireland

:08:38. > :08:39.in the 1997 World Cup, the day before her 18th birthday.

:08:40. > :08:42.In 2005, she was part of an England team that won Ashes

:08:43. > :08:56.The ICC named her Women's Cricketer of the Year

:08:57. > :09:02.in 2008, a year later, double success - as Edwards guided

:09:03. > :09:04.England to victory in the World Cup and the World Twenty20.

:09:05. > :09:08.What a period it was in 2013 to 2014 when she led England to back-to-back

:09:09. > :09:12.Edwards bows out of the international game as

:09:13. > :09:14.arguably the most significant figure in the history

:09:15. > :09:25.Without Charlotte it is impossible to think that women's cricket would

:09:26. > :09:28.be where it is now. You can look at runs she scored in Twenty20

:09:29. > :09:33.internationals, more than anybody, male or female. You can look at the

:09:34. > :09:34.220 times she captained England. 20 years as an international cricketer.

:09:35. > :09:39.It is remarkable. Now to those unsavoury scenes

:09:40. > :09:42.outside the Upton Park - ahead of West Ham's last match

:09:43. > :09:47.at the Boleyn Ground. West Ham have promised to issue life

:09:48. > :09:50.bans to anyone found responsible, the FA also say they'll work

:09:51. > :09:58.with the Police to investigate. The kick-off was delayed by 45

:09:59. > :10:20.the glass was broken. The kick-off was delayed by 45

:10:21. > :10:26.minutes as a result of the trouble. We live in this world. We know that

:10:27. > :10:37.can happen. So you have to cope with that and I believe that we have done

:10:38. > :10:43.that also. We were 20 minutes before ahead. I don't think it was

:10:44. > :10:47.influencing. Those scenes marred what was a

:10:48. > :10:51.memorable occasion for West Ham. They beat Manchester United 3-2 in

:10:52. > :10:56.the final match to be played thereafter more than 100 years. They

:10:57. > :11:01.will move to the Olympic Stadium next season, but the club gave their

:11:02. > :11:05.home a fitting send off, bringing in former players to say farewell to

:11:06. > :11:14.Upton Park. It was something their manager was proud to be a part of.

:11:15. > :11:18.He said how good it was to be at Upton Park. The moments on the pitch

:11:19. > :11:22.were much better than outside it. Thank you very much, Ore.

:11:23. > :11:25.This morning we've been looking at whether you can inherit mental

:11:26. > :11:41.His grandfather and father both took their own lives and he's been

:11:42. > :11:47.We played you his full film earlier in the programme.

:11:48. > :11:52."In cherished memory of Berwick James Longman

:11:53. > :12:03.My grandfather discovered he had bone cancer and sadly shot himself.

:12:04. > :12:06.When I was nine, my father, who had schizophrenia,

:12:07. > :12:14.Now in my 20s, I myself get bouts of depression.

:12:15. > :12:16.How do we inherit, do we inherit mental health issues?

:12:17. > :12:26.We know that all these disorders have both a genetic

:12:27. > :12:28.and an environmental contribution to them, nature or nurture.

:12:29. > :12:33.Mental health disorders are not about a single gene,

:12:34. > :12:46.And it is that collection that scientists are discovering,

:12:47. > :12:49.nine genes are more common in people with depression,

:12:50. > :13:01.and 108 in people who have schizophrenia.

:13:02. > :13:09.Johnny was diagnosed in his 20s. So many emotions and intellectual

:13:10. > :13:14.response that you go through. At the time I cried with relief. I am my

:13:15. > :13:22.mother's child, but I feel like my condition is unique. Lucy, do you

:13:23. > :13:29.ever ask, why not me? Yeah. Yes, I think when I was younger it was,

:13:30. > :13:34.there would be a slight anxiety of will it be me? Even though I think

:13:35. > :13:37.at the same time I always knew it wouldn't be.

:13:38. > :13:42.If you have a depressed parent you're twice as likely to experience

:13:43. > :13:46.depression, with bipolar, you're four times more at risk and in

:13:47. > :13:51.schizophrenia, which my dad had, it is eight times. Scientists are also

:13:52. > :13:55.making progress in breaking the cycle of depression in ways my

:13:56. > :14:00.father never had. In a new scanning trial at King's College, London, I

:14:01. > :14:03.have given the team trigger words to make me feel guilty, that's

:14:04. > :14:09.something a lot of depressed people feel when we're low. As they appear

:14:10. > :14:11.on the screen in front of me, my brain reacts and I'm told to think

:14:12. > :14:17.about forgiving myself to think that reaction away. We can see the

:14:18. > :14:22.thermometer going up again because he seem to be doing very well in

:14:23. > :14:27.bringing down the level of connections between these regions,

:14:28. > :14:30.the connectivity. Forgiveness, it seems, can biologically heal your

:14:31. > :14:34.brain. Mental health illness is passed on

:14:35. > :14:38.through the generations, but it is life events and maybe sometimes just

:14:39. > :14:41.luck that determine who is affected. This may run in my family, but the

:14:42. > :14:58.con qens don't have to. It's worth pointing out that

:14:59. > :15:01.even though the evidence suggests having a parent with a mental health

:15:02. > :15:03.illness increases your risk of developing one -

:15:04. > :15:06.you're still more likely not to. Our reporter James Longman

:15:07. > :15:08.is here with us, alongside Norman Scates and his son Paul -

:15:09. > :15:10.they both have bipolar and Holly Brockwell who has

:15:11. > :15:13.mental health issues - her father took his own life

:15:14. > :15:15.when she was five. Also with us Dr Lee Hudson

:15:16. > :15:22.a paediatrician with a special James, it is clear why you wanted to

:15:23. > :15:24.make that film, but tell us why it is so significant to you?

:15:25. > :15:30.I mean all my life I've wondered about my dad and his father, it is

:15:31. > :15:35.not just them, my uncle has bipolar and my mother suffers with

:15:36. > :15:39.depression. The thing about when you have the depressive lows, one of the

:15:40. > :15:42.biggest feelings you get is a sense of inevitability, a sense this is

:15:43. > :15:46.meant to happen to me, there is no way out, there is something in me

:15:47. > :15:51.which made me dimp to everybody else. You see the world darkly and

:15:52. > :15:55.everyone else is over there and you're over here on your own and

:15:56. > :15:58.making sense of my genetic legacy was really important to put together

:15:59. > :16:02.a little bit of what has been going on and talking to other people and

:16:03. > :16:07.the realisation, of course, as we found by the end of the film the

:16:08. > :16:13.very act of talking and the act of making the film was really helpful.

:16:14. > :16:21.It was really interesting to see you training your brain, what does it

:16:22. > :16:24.involve? The thing that was really interesting, they are working from

:16:25. > :16:29.the premise that when you feel depression particularly, not the

:16:30. > :16:34.other mental illnesses necessarily, but oppression, you feel guilt more

:16:35. > :16:36.strongly. You don't just get Locum you blame yourself for getting low,

:16:37. > :16:42.and other people might resort to anger, they blame other people, but

:16:43. > :16:45.depressives will blame themselves. So they decided they needed to

:16:46. > :16:48.identify the part of the brain where these connections were firing up a

:16:49. > :16:54.lot, where they were feeling this guilt. If you sat in the MRI

:16:55. > :16:57.scanner, and it is a really awed process, I was sat there for an hour

:16:58. > :17:01.doing this, and they give you these techniques to try and work it out.

:17:02. > :17:06.As I say in the film, the one thing they found was working 75% of the

:17:07. > :17:12.time, a very high success rate, was asking people to forgive themselves.

:17:13. > :17:18.So are you lit surely and simply saying "I must forgive myself, I

:17:19. > :17:23.forgive you, I forgive you". Yes, it sounds extraordinarily arbitrary and

:17:24. > :17:26.very simple. It is a bit like CBT, cognitive behavioural therapy.

:17:27. > :17:30.Giving yourself position -- permission to forgive yourself in a

:17:31. > :17:37.way. It is an arbitrator feeling that the brain does respond. Really

:17:38. > :17:42.interesting. Holly, your dad took his life when you were five, what

:17:43. > :17:47.have you learned about his mental health since? From speaking to my

:17:48. > :17:51.mum, it seems that he was suffering from manic depression. It seemed he

:17:52. > :17:55.was very stressed with his job, he had a lot going on. I remember him

:17:56. > :18:00.being quite stressed out, getting angry and arguing with my mum a lot,

:18:01. > :18:03.shouting at us a lot as kids. It sounded like he did not the get help

:18:04. > :18:07.that he maybe should have sought at the time. There was a lot harder

:18:08. > :18:16.back then, in the early 90s, for men to speak out and get help. And what

:18:17. > :18:20.impact has his suicide had on you? It has been enormous, it was 25

:18:21. > :18:26.years ago now and it still affects me, so often all the time I think

:18:27. > :18:30.about him. I feel like I am carrying him with me. I think about him, what

:18:31. > :18:35.would he think of this, what would he think of me now, and just why did

:18:36. > :18:39.he do this? Could I have saved him, I was only five, but if I had been

:18:40. > :18:43.home at the time, if I hadn't gone out that day, Miss behaved that day,

:18:44. > :18:47.you constantly think about what you could have done or what you might

:18:48. > :18:50.have done. But obviously it is kind of futile, but it is the guilt

:18:51. > :18:56.thing, you blame yourself a lot. Do you think you have inherited the

:18:57. > :18:59.genes that make you more predisposition to have mental health

:19:00. > :19:03.problems yourself? For me, it is less about genetics and about the

:19:04. > :19:07.impact suicide has on you as a family. It makes you feel that as a

:19:08. > :19:10.viable option to deal with your problems. Whenever you feel down and

:19:11. > :19:13.you feel things are going badly, you automatically think of that because

:19:14. > :19:16.that is most what you have been trained to think is the right

:19:17. > :19:20.response. It has been at the forefront of your mind so much more

:19:21. > :19:26.than it has been. I mean predisposed, not predisposition,

:19:27. > :19:31.sorry. Paul, welcome, Norman, Paul's dad, you both have bipolar. For our

:19:32. > :19:36.audience who want to learn more about this it is worth explaining

:19:37. > :19:41.what bipolar is first of all. Bipolar is a combination of highs

:19:42. > :19:46.and lows, basically. It is trying to get the balance in between, which is

:19:47. > :19:49.a commendation of -- combination of medication and acceptance of the

:19:50. > :19:54.fact you have got the illness, that is the big battle. And talking to

:19:55. > :19:58.people. The immediate reaction is I have got this diagnosis, people will

:19:59. > :20:03.ostracise me, keep me away because they think I am a danger. In effect,

:20:04. > :20:07.it is educating people. That is why we need more mental health

:20:08. > :20:14.workshops. It is very important. How would you describe it, Paul? I

:20:15. > :20:18.attempted suicide when I was 16, it was very traumatic, I was left with

:20:19. > :20:23.physical problems because I broke my back, and actually when you are in

:20:24. > :20:26.that state of mind, you are almost taking an out of body experience.

:20:27. > :20:31.For me, it felt like I didn't really want to die but I didn't know how to

:20:32. > :20:34.stop the pain. I use the analogy of your head between a vice, someone

:20:35. > :20:39.keeps tightening it and it gets tighter and tighter. For me, I have

:20:40. > :20:43.the highs and lows, and rapid cycling, in the morning I could be

:20:44. > :20:48.feeling OK, in the afternoon quite morbid and oppressed. But, like

:20:49. > :20:51.James said, I have retrained my brain, and I have done mindfulness,

:20:52. > :20:54.all about focusing your mind, grounding yourself, so when you

:20:55. > :21:00.become stressed, you can start to manage it. Diet, exercise, mood

:21:01. > :21:03.foods, all of that stuff. What impact does it have a

:21:04. > :21:12.foods, all of that stuff. What that your son too Erik -- does it

:21:13. > :21:17.have on you? As a parent, you feel the guilt, but it is not your fault.

:21:18. > :21:23.You want to protect your child, and you feel that is my fourth. In the

:21:24. > :21:26.end, you start to blame yourself you feel that is my fourth. In the

:21:27. > :21:29.everything you do come you take it all on board, why is it happening?

:21:30. > :21:34.If it wasn't for the all on board, why is it happening?

:21:35. > :21:37.has been a rock and has had to deal with all of us, and they get

:21:38. > :21:40.overlooked, because they are dealing with the massive trauma as much as

:21:41. > :21:45.we are, the people who have the illness. It has certainly made Paul

:21:46. > :21:48.and I much stronger, in terms of the relationship, because Paul can talk

:21:49. > :21:54.to me about anything. And I would say my mum has prevented both my

:21:55. > :22:02.father and I being admitted into hospital, support is so important.

:22:03. > :22:05.League, you work at a hospital as a paediatrician, specialising in

:22:06. > :22:08.mental health. How do parents react to you when their parents are

:22:09. > :22:14.diagnosed with mental health illnesses? Norman said it all, some

:22:15. > :22:19.of the texts and tweets from your viewers. Talking about the inherent

:22:20. > :22:23.ability of mental health conditions, as a doctor I am in a fortunate

:22:24. > :22:26.position that I get a look at the mental health than the physical

:22:27. > :22:29.health, and to the two are not that different, they are both health

:22:30. > :22:34.conditions. We frequently talk about people inheriting risk for heart

:22:35. > :22:36.disease, for diabetes, for cancer, and yet when it comes to mental

:22:37. > :22:41.health, it seems to be a more controversial topic. But in fact,

:22:42. > :22:45.mental health does have this stigma, we have heard that word a lot, it is

:22:46. > :22:49.something we need to break down, and when families are first confronted,

:22:50. > :22:52.and individuals are first confronted with mental health problems, there

:22:53. > :22:58.is this guilt, this shame, did I do something wrong? But having worked

:22:59. > :23:02.hand on heart with many families who have mental health problems, and

:23:03. > :23:06.children who have problems, it is families that makes things better.

:23:07. > :23:12.Our parents give us lots of genes, some create risk, but most create

:23:13. > :23:18.detective factors. We often worry about risk, actually there are

:23:19. > :23:21.tonnes of protective things we can have, things we can intervene. We

:23:22. > :23:26.can't do anything about our genes, but if we think about our physical

:23:27. > :23:29.health, our stress levels, the way we engage in relationships, they are

:23:30. > :23:32.so important that families are able to support children and young people

:23:33. > :23:37.with professional support, that is critical, I think. Holly, does what

:23:38. > :23:41.you have experienced in your family, with your father's suicide and the

:23:42. > :23:45.impact it has had on you, does it have an impact in the way you think

:23:46. > :23:50.about having children in future? I am not going to have children, ever,

:23:51. > :23:53.but identity it is related, because my elder sister went through the

:23:54. > :24:00.exact same thing, and she has two gorgeous babies. So how has what

:24:01. > :24:05.happened to your father affected your older sister converter you?

:24:06. > :24:10.Very, very differently, she takes it much less on herself than I do. I

:24:11. > :24:13.tend to blame myself a lot and look for answers and go into all this

:24:14. > :24:15.background and try to find out why and what happened, whereas she has

:24:16. > :24:20.been more accepting, that happened, we have moved on. A lot of that is

:24:21. > :24:24.because when we were growing up, she was a lot closer to our armed than I

:24:25. > :24:27.was, so I think she found her comfort and support, as you were

:24:28. > :24:32.saying, in that, and that really helped her to heal and move forward,

:24:33. > :24:37.whereas I argued with my mum, conflicted quite a lot, spent quite

:24:38. > :24:39.a lot of time blaming her for my father's death, which is ridiculous,

:24:40. > :24:45.you can't make someone kill themselves. It was just something he

:24:46. > :24:51.felt he had to do, that helped me heal, and my mum and I get on a lot

:24:52. > :24:54.better now. Dr Hudson, can I ask you what you thought of what you saw in

:24:55. > :24:59.James's film about the training of the brain. Is that something we

:25:00. > :25:02.could be doing more of? There are already very well-established

:25:03. > :25:05.guidelines about how we treatment shall health, and well accepted, and

:25:06. > :25:10.some of those are very evidence -based. The trickiness is accessing

:25:11. > :25:14.the services, if we are honest, and there isn't really parity across the

:25:15. > :25:17.country around those services. People are having to have long waits

:25:18. > :25:23.to see professionals around mental health. Years, in some cases, we

:25:24. > :25:27.have reported on it before in the programme, it is outrageous. To be

:25:28. > :25:31.fair to the government, it has been higher up in the agenda, mental

:25:32. > :25:35.health, and the has-beens investment, but what has been put on

:25:36. > :25:37.is not enough, and access to services is not enough, and if we

:25:38. > :25:43.really want to take this seriously and make an impact, we have to have

:25:44. > :25:51.the resources and services to do it. It is also about collaboratively

:25:52. > :25:54.working with our third sector, Mind, Rethink, they are paramount. I would

:25:55. > :25:58.like to end on the point of saying recovery is possible for everyone,

:25:59. > :26:01.divided you are given the right support, techniques and skills to

:26:02. > :26:06.learn how to manage your condition. Thank you all very much, a couple of

:26:07. > :26:12.messages, Sarah says on Twitter it is really great to be so open about

:26:13. > :26:16.mental health issues. It has been really informative. Thank you to all

:26:17. > :26:19.of you for that. This e-mail, my grandmother had mental health

:26:20. > :26:21.issues, she was in an institution where she received electric shock

:26:22. > :26:26.treatment. She took her life before I was born. My mother's mum has

:26:27. > :26:30.suffered from what she called her nerves, and had medication to help.

:26:31. > :26:35.Although this didn't all come out until I was diagnosed with

:26:36. > :26:39.depression and borderline personality disorder. I do think

:26:40. > :26:43.there is a link with it being hereditary, something I worry about

:26:44. > :26:46.as I am now expecting my first child, I just hope it doesn't affect

:26:47. > :26:49.my first child but I know I have more understanding of mental health

:26:50. > :26:52.issues so can help it if this happens. Also there is more help out

:26:53. > :27:00.there now than what my two grandmothers had to them. If you

:27:01. > :27:04.want to hear more from James Longman, he is taking part in a live

:27:05. > :27:13.Facebook discussion about inherited mental health at a quarter past 11.

:27:14. > :27:15.You can ask any questions, plus if you want to share his film, can find

:27:16. > :27:18.it on the programme page. If you've been affected by any

:27:19. > :27:21.of the issues raised in our film and are looking for further help,

:27:22. > :27:24.support or information on mental health then please call the BBC

:27:25. > :27:44.Action Line on 08000 564 756 or head Indian woman has become a mother for

:27:45. > :27:49.the first time at the age of 72. She gave birth to a baby boy last month,

:27:50. > :27:53.following two years of IVF treatment, according to her

:27:54. > :27:54.fertility clinic. She and her 79-year-old husband have been

:27:55. > :28:13.married 46 years. I have been spitting to her husband

:28:14. > :28:17.and Daljinder. They are thrilled at the thought of having her new baby,

:28:18. > :28:21.and are busy with the news baby obviously, but while that is the

:28:22. > :28:26.case, we don't know her age, I asked this morning, and they said roughly

:28:27. > :28:30.around 71, 72, but doesn't have a birth step with it. The clinic

:28:31. > :28:35.guesses she is about -- doesn't have a birth certificate. Guesses she is

:28:36. > :28:39.about 70, making her one of the older people to have a baby. This is

:28:40. > :28:46.a phenomenon we have seen in India over the last few years, women

:28:47. > :28:50.having children much older. This clinic especially specialises in

:28:51. > :28:56.fertility for older women from the Punjab region. It is quite common in

:28:57. > :29:03.that region, so not a lot of people were surprised, because they have a

:29:04. > :29:10.task on hand, they have named him a name which means Desire. Something

:29:11. > :29:15.they have desired all their lives. What about the ethics of a woman in

:29:16. > :29:18.her 70s, a father in his late 70s, having a newborn, and how long they

:29:19. > :29:24.will live for to care for their child? Absolutely. This is something

:29:25. > :29:27.quite controversial, and this particular doctor has specialised in

:29:28. > :29:32.treatment with older women. He says he sees about 1000 fertility cases a

:29:33. > :29:36.year, and about one third are aged between 50 and 70, the women. And

:29:37. > :29:41.the Indian medical council doesn't really approve of this practice, and

:29:42. > :29:45.they have been lobbying hard to bring a ban on fertility treatment

:29:46. > :29:48.for women above 50. But the bill has been stuck in the Indian parliament

:29:49. > :29:53.for nearly two years now, three years actually. It is not something

:29:54. > :29:57.that is promoted and is generally frowned upon in the medical

:29:58. > :30:02.community in India, but it is popular. There is intense Society

:30:03. > :30:05.pressure to have a baby, and facility is quite a sensitive topic

:30:06. > :30:09.here, it is almost a social taboo if you don't have children. A lot of

:30:10. > :30:13.these couples, there is property and land involved, if they want to sort

:30:14. > :30:18.out the inheritance issues, they need to have children to pass it on

:30:19. > :30:22.to. So it is complex, especially in this particular belt of northern

:30:23. > :30:26.India. But increasingly couples in their 60s and 70s are going to

:30:27. > :30:32.clinics like this to have babies. Thank you very much. Still to come,

:30:33. > :30:34.it is the last day in office for some of the Police and Crime

:30:35. > :30:38.Commissioners who have not been re-elected, and tomorrow a new bunch

:30:39. > :30:43.will start. Hardly any of us in England and Wales voted for them,

:30:44. > :30:47.but they are in place. So what do they do? We will speak to two of

:30:48. > :30:51.them last night. And West Ham's final night at Upton Park was

:30:52. > :30:54.overshadowed by violence, with some fans throwing bottles at the

:30:55. > :30:55.Manchester United team bus. We will hear from some of those who were at

:30:56. > :30:58.the game. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:30:59. > :31:02.with a summary of today's news. The Queen has been filmed describing

:31:03. > :31:05.Chinese officials as "very rude" during their state visit

:31:06. > :31:14.to the UK last year. The incident was caught at a garden

:31:15. > :31:17.party yesterday by the cameraman who covers the Palace for the UK

:31:18. > :31:20.broadcasters during a conversation between Her Majesty and the officer

:31:21. > :31:24.in charge of policing the event. It came just hours after

:31:25. > :31:26.David Cameron was recorded calling Afghanistan and Nigeria

:31:27. > :31:29."fantastically corrupt", The Nigerian President has said

:31:30. > :31:39.that he won't demand an apology. NHS patients in England,

:31:40. > :31:42.including the frail and elderly, are being sent home from hospital

:31:43. > :31:44."afraid" and "with little support", that's the warning

:31:45. > :31:47.from the health ombudsman. The independent arbitrator

:31:48. > :31:48.investigated 211 such It also blamed poor

:31:49. > :31:52.planning and co-ordination between hospital staff and health

:31:53. > :31:54.and social care services. The Department of Health has called

:31:55. > :31:56.the failings unacceptable and it Thousands of suspected and convicted

:31:57. > :32:06.criminals who skipped court bail while facing charges including

:32:07. > :32:08.murder, child sex offences Figures obtained by the BBC show

:32:09. > :32:14.more than 13,000 people are subject to outstanding arrest

:32:15. > :32:16.warrants in England - Victims charities warned that people

:32:17. > :32:26.fear justice will not be done. Heathrow Airport has promised

:32:27. > :32:29.to extend the ban on night flights and to accept tougher controls

:32:30. > :32:32.on noise levels, if it's allowed It's part of its campaign

:32:33. > :32:37.to convince the Government it should be chosen over Gatwick

:32:38. > :32:39.for the location of a new runway. Gatwick has responded saying

:32:40. > :32:41.an expanded Heathrow will affect hundreds of thousands of people

:32:42. > :32:56.with noise and pollution. Detectives in the US state

:32:57. > :32:58.of Minnesota have questioned a doctor who saw the singer Prince

:32:59. > :33:01.twice in the weeks before he died. A police warrant reveals

:33:02. > :33:03.Dr Michael Schulenberg prescribed medication to the 57-year-old star

:33:04. > :33:06.the day before he died last month. It doesn't say what was prescribed,

:33:07. > :33:09.or whether Prince took the drugs. Join me for BBC

:33:10. > :33:14.Newsroom Live at 11am. England women's captain

:33:15. > :33:24.Charlotte Edwards has announced her retirement

:33:25. > :33:26.from international cricket. In a 20-year England career,

:33:27. > :33:29.Edwards led her country to the 2009 World Cup and World T20 titles,

:33:30. > :33:31.also winning four Ashes West Ham say they'll issue life bans

:33:32. > :33:39.to anyone found responsible for attacking the Manchester United

:33:40. > :33:41.team bus last night. Bottles and other projectiles

:33:42. > :33:43.were thrown as the away side The hammers were 3-2 winners

:33:44. > :33:50.in their final game England manager Roy Hodgson will now

:33:51. > :33:56.name his Euro 2016 squad on Monday so he can make a better assessment

:33:57. > :33:59.of players' fitness after the final His final 23 were due

:34:00. > :34:07.to be revealed tomorrow. England prop, Joe Marler, says

:34:08. > :34:09.he is seeing a sports psychologist to address his "lack

:34:10. > :34:12.of professional control". The Harelquins forward,

:34:13. > :34:16.who was recently punished following an altercation

:34:17. > :34:18.with Wales forward Samson Lee, received another two week ban

:34:19. > :34:27.for violent conduct last month. That's your sport for now. Plenty

:34:28. > :34:28.more on the News Channel throughout the day, Victoria. Thank you very

:34:29. > :34:31.much. More than 13,000 suspected

:34:32. > :34:33.and convicted criminals facing charges including

:34:34. > :34:34.murder, rape and child sex offences are on the run

:34:35. > :34:38.after skipping court bail. Figures obtained by the BBC

:34:39. > :34:43.show some police forces in England have over 1,000

:34:44. > :34:45.outstanding arrest warrants. It means potentially violent

:34:46. > :34:47.and dangerous criminals Our reporter Craig Lewis put

:34:48. > :35:04.in the freedom of information What does the information that you

:35:05. > :35:07.got back show? It shows that it is more than the 13,000 warrants

:35:08. > :35:10.outstanding and they are for quite serious offences as well. Things

:35:11. > :35:13.like murders, rapes, child sex offences. So it is not just the

:35:14. > :35:19.petty crime that you might think it was. Also some of these date back

:35:20. > :35:25.years and years and years to the 1980s, the oldest goes back to 1980,

:35:26. > :35:29.that was in West Yorkshire where a police constable was assaulted. So

:35:30. > :35:34.quite a serious offence there as well. And just to give you an idea

:35:35. > :35:39.of some of the pressures the police face on this. One of the other cases

:35:40. > :35:44.that we followed through saw a serial con man from Suffolk, he was

:35:45. > :35:49.wanted by Essex Police, he absconded to Alicante where he committed more

:35:50. > :35:53.offences out there and he ended up in a prison in Spain.

:35:54. > :35:57.We can talk now to Tom Tailford - who was a victim of a crime

:35:58. > :35:59.for which the man responsible didn't turn up to court.

:36:00. > :36:02.Malcolm Richardson, the national chair of

:36:03. > :36:12.Des Keenoy, a former Metropolitan Police Officer.

:36:13. > :36:21.You had thousands of pounds of camera equipment stolen, how did it

:36:22. > :36:25.affect you? It affected my business. This man was charged with fraud and

:36:26. > :36:30.didn't turn up to the court for trial. Correct. How did that make

:36:31. > :36:34.you feel? Really frustrated. The treatment from the police wasn't

:36:35. > :36:40.that great through the duration of my ordeal. Yeah, it just added to

:36:41. > :36:45.the frustration really. Malcolm, the figures show that 13500 court

:36:46. > :36:48.warrants are still outstanding. What consequences are there if cases like

:36:49. > :36:53.Tom's are repeated around the country? Well, victims like Tom

:36:54. > :36:57.don't get justice. That's obviously the first, I would say that's the

:36:58. > :37:00.most important point, but witnesses who are members of the public who

:37:01. > :37:05.have no vested interest in the case, but are giving up their time to come

:37:06. > :37:10.and do their civic duty and come and give evidence aren't able to give

:37:11. > :37:15.evidence. And that I am sure means that they are less likely, if the

:37:16. > :37:22.case is relisted, to want to give up more time to come... Because they

:37:23. > :37:25.lose faith? Absolutely. And everyone knows that all of Government

:37:26. > :37:29.services, but certainly the court service, is under severe budget

:37:30. > :37:34.pressures and that means we have less time available in court to hear

:37:35. > :37:39.matters and if we get all of the resources assembled to deal with the

:37:40. > :37:44.case then the defendant doesn't show up then we are wasting those

:37:45. > :37:50.resources. A complete waste of time and taxpayers money. Absolutely. Des

:37:51. > :37:54.you are a former met police officer. People will be thinking why aren't

:37:55. > :37:59.the police out there arresting these people on the run? It would be nice

:38:00. > :38:02.to say they could. There has been a vast reduction in the number of

:38:03. > :38:05.police officers available on the street in the last few years and

:38:06. > :38:10.also the neighbourhood policing units that might of had the

:38:11. > :38:13.availability to go out and pursue their local criminals who have not

:38:14. > :38:18.turned up to court, they are under great pressure. It is not us saying

:38:19. > :38:22.this is on the back burner, but basically, the idea of police

:38:23. > :38:27.officers on patrol, and actively pursuing people in their locality,

:38:28. > :38:31.other pressures take precedence over that and unfortunately, this maybe

:38:32. > :38:35.and I can't say it is for certain, this may just be an outcome from all

:38:36. > :38:40.the cuts we've had. We have lost a vast number of officers and a lot of

:38:41. > :38:44.the officers we're left with are busy doing other things and directed

:38:45. > :38:48.elsewhere to more urgent stuff. That's the basic situation. So if

:38:49. > :38:53.there were more officers, there wouldn't be 13500 people on the run?

:38:54. > :38:57.I would hope not because in the days when we did this, if there were

:38:58. > :39:01.outstanding warrants on your beat or in your neighbourhood you would go

:39:02. > :39:06.out and deal with them. It is a way of getting juniors officers to get

:39:07. > :39:10.used to arresting people and dealing with them and arresting them and

:39:11. > :39:14.getting them into the court system. It is likely that somebody arrested

:39:15. > :39:16.on warrant would not be kept in custody until a court hearing

:39:17. > :39:19.because the court hearing might take two or three months to set-up and

:39:20. > :39:24.that's no fault of the officers doing the arresting and they might

:39:25. > :39:28.be bailed and then abscond again. I'm really sorry, but you have to

:39:29. > :39:31.look at the resources there and the basic line of resource for the

:39:32. > :39:34.frontline officers has been cut. I meanks you have got to be pretty

:39:35. > :39:39.bold not to turn up to court for your trial, but hearing what Des

:39:40. > :39:43.said about, he is saying it is reduced because of a reduced number

:39:44. > :39:48.of police officers, you might think well, no one is going to catch me

:39:49. > :39:53.anyway? I'm not going to think myself into the mind of a defendant

:39:54. > :39:58.in court, but absolutely, clearly, people could come to that conclusion

:39:59. > :40:03.and these are orders of court and therefore, they ought to be

:40:04. > :40:08.implemented. Yes? And if they're not, for whatever reason, whether it

:40:09. > :40:11.is the reason the for what the police officer said or for other

:40:12. > :40:15.reasons. The court has a right to know why they are not being

:40:16. > :40:19.implemented. We have no feedback, we get a defendant in front of us or we

:40:20. > :40:22.don'tment we don't know why they haven't turned up whether it is

:40:23. > :40:26.because they have failed to respond or that the warrant has never been

:40:27. > :40:28.executed. OK, thank you very much, all of you, thank you for coming on

:40:29. > :40:35.the programme, thank you. Do you know what your Police

:40:36. > :40:37.and Crime Commissioner does? They've been around since 2012,

:40:38. > :40:40.if you live in England and Wales you could well have voted them in,

:40:41. > :40:43.and they earn roughly between ?70,000 to ?100,000

:40:44. > :40:45.a year, paid for by you, They are elected to ensure police

:40:46. > :40:49.forces in England and Wales They replaced police authorities,

:40:50. > :40:52.and are meant to bring The Government insists PCCs are not

:40:53. > :40:57.there to run local police forces, Last Thursday, 40 PCCs were elected,

:40:58. > :41:01.and there was a 67% increase in the number of voters

:41:02. > :41:04.from the last elections in 2012, Today is the last day in the post

:41:05. > :41:16.for the first batch of Police and Crime Commissioners who haven't

:41:17. > :41:19.been re-elected, and tomorrow newly So we thought it would be

:41:20. > :41:23.interesting to see what advice someone who's done the job

:41:24. > :41:25.would have for someone who's We can speak now to Nick Alston,

:41:26. > :41:30.Chair of the Association of Police It's his last day today as PCC

:41:31. > :41:34.for Essex, after he didn't And in Lincoln, we have Marc Jones,

:41:35. > :41:41.who starts his job as the Police and Crime Commissioner

:41:42. > :41:51.for Lincolnshire on tomorrow. Well speak to Nick first of all

:41:52. > :41:58.because we can't get through to Marc right this second. Nick, tell us

:41:59. > :42:00.what it has been like. It has been a privilege really to do the job. It

:42:01. > :42:04.has been three-and-a-half years of doing the job. A year of preparing

:42:05. > :42:08.for it. So four-and-a-half really very busy years. A privilege to do

:42:09. > :42:12.it because policing is really important. Everybody cares about it

:42:13. > :42:15.and these are roles which can really make a huge difference so it has

:42:16. > :42:20.been very busy. I'm not standing again. Largely for family reasons. I

:42:21. > :42:25.have got my lovely grandchildren. I have had 42 years in full-time work

:42:26. > :42:29.and these last three years, a real privilege, getting to know the

:42:30. > :42:33.county, helping improve policing and really understanding what the

:42:34. > :42:39.communities want from their police. Marc, are you nervous? I think there

:42:40. > :42:43.is a healthy amount of anticipation, excitement and trepidation really,

:42:44. > :42:47.but I'm just keen to get going now. Nick, what's the one thing you

:42:48. > :42:53.perhaps haven't done in your role as a PCC that you would say to Marc

:42:54. > :42:56.that he has to do? Oh, there are lots of things I'd like to have

:42:57. > :43:00.done. There are so many important things that have to be done. It is

:43:01. > :43:04.worth looking at those first. I would say really focus on the

:43:05. > :43:08.overall plan, what are we trying to achieve, how do we make best use of

:43:09. > :43:11.the money? Secondly and really importantly, how do the police do

:43:12. > :43:15.their business? If you look around the country at the moment, look at

:43:16. > :43:18.the scandal coming out of Northumbria and the problems in

:43:19. > :43:22.North Yorkshire. How the police do their work is really, really

:43:23. > :43:26.important and the police and crime commissioner can really shape that

:43:27. > :43:30.and thirdly, the difficult piece is how do we get Local Government

:43:31. > :43:34.working differently so we can make our communities safer? Nearly a

:43:35. > :43:39.quarter of police time in Essex is spent dealing with people with

:43:40. > :43:42.mental health problems. How do we join up police service and mental

:43:43. > :43:45.health services and probation? All those things that make a difference

:43:46. > :43:49.to community safety. So lots to look forward. I think the real challenges

:43:50. > :43:52.are getting our local communities working and Local Government working

:43:53. > :43:56.in a much more joined up way. That would be a great thing to achieve.

:43:57. > :43:59.Marc, it is just worth being clear, you do not run the police force, you

:44:00. > :44:06.have a Chief Constable to do that, you can sack your Chief Constable,

:44:07. > :44:10.should you feel it appropriate. Is it just about strategy then and

:44:11. > :44:14.culture? I don't think it is fair to say it is just about, but that's

:44:15. > :44:19.obviously a very important part of it. I mean you are working with the

:44:20. > :44:22.police as well as holding them to account on the way they deliver, but

:44:23. > :44:26.it is around all those other services and you know, as we have

:44:27. > :44:30.just heard, Local Government, third sector organisations, all come

:44:31. > :44:34.together to prevent crime and then obviously support victims of crime

:44:35. > :44:41.and help the police solve crime. OK. What's your number one task

:44:42. > :44:45.then? Sorry, go on Nick. Jump in on that point about the victims. Trying

:44:46. > :44:52.to make the victims at the centre of how we think about policing. It

:44:53. > :44:55.really turns it on its head. The third sector is so important. It is

:44:56. > :44:58.so important the voluntary community groups who play a big role in

:44:59. > :45:02.supporting victims, supporting those who have a wide range of needs that

:45:03. > :45:06.might otherwise lead them into crime. It is great to work in that

:45:07. > :45:13.space and the PCCs brought a lot to that role. What was the turn-out,

:45:14. > :45:18.Marc, for you? It was just short of 21% in Lincolnshire. That was the

:45:19. > :45:23.total turn-out and how many voted for you, what percentage? The total

:45:24. > :45:28.number of votes cast was just around 49,000. So there was around 37% on

:45:29. > :45:37.the first ballot. I think it is enough of a mandate,

:45:38. > :45:44.given that you can't make people vote. I had 11,000 vote majority of

:45:45. > :45:47.the first ballot and a very similar one at the second, which is very

:45:48. > :45:52.healthy. I believe that gives me the mandate to go on and work for

:45:53. > :45:58.Lincolnshire. What was your turn out, Nick, do you recall? When I was

:45:59. > :46:03.elected it was tiny, one of the smallest, 12.8%. This last time, my

:46:04. > :46:07.successor, a really worthy successor, Roger Hurst, who is going

:46:08. > :46:11.to be great in the job, over 25% voting for Roger. I think worrying

:46:12. > :46:15.about the mandate, of course it would be great to see it bigger.

:46:16. > :46:19.Next time the PCC election will be at the same time as the general

:46:20. > :46:23.election, so we will probably see a 60% mandate, but I don't think we

:46:24. > :46:30.should be fixated on that. What matters is the job PCCs have done up

:46:31. > :46:38.and down the country. Do you think you have done any better than the

:46:39. > :46:43.old lease authorities? I am completely sure on this. I found no

:46:44. > :46:47.plan, no vision for what the future of Essex Police should look like. I

:46:48. > :46:51.have left with a really robust plan to the next few years. We have coped

:46:52. > :46:56.with a very difficult financial situation we have all had to face,

:46:57. > :47:00.you mentioned the salaries at the outset. This is a very big job, one

:47:01. > :47:07.of the biggest I have ever done. My total office costs no more than the

:47:08. > :47:11.old police authority costs. We forget, nearly 20 councillors

:47:12. > :47:14.drawing big allowances to be on that police authority. The cost of the

:47:15. > :47:19.PCC has cost no more than the old police authorities. To think we have

:47:20. > :47:22.done a better job? Yes, immeasurably better.

:47:23. > :47:25.West Ham says it will issue life bans on any fans

:47:26. > :47:26.found responsible for attacking the Manchester United

:47:27. > :47:33.team coach before last night's game at Upton Park.

:47:34. > :47:36.threw bottles at the bus, smashing a window.

:47:37. > :47:38.It was filmed by Manchester United players who watched the chaos

:47:39. > :47:56.If I die, guys... It was supposed to be a fond and emotional farewell to

:47:57. > :47:59.the home of over a century. Thousands of West Ham fans gathered

:48:00. > :48:04.for their final match at the Boleyn Ground before they moved to the

:48:05. > :48:07.Olympic Stadium next season. But it was overshadowed by a minority of

:48:08. > :48:12.supporters throwing bottles at the Manchester United coach, which was

:48:13. > :48:15.carrying the players, smashing part of its glass was the police had to

:48:16. > :48:20.escort the vehicle through the crowds and kick-off was delayed.

:48:21. > :48:28.Not what the night was supposed to chaotic scenes from inside the bus.

:48:29. > :48:30.Not what the night was supposed to be about. Most, though, had come to

:48:31. > :48:42.say Inside, for West Ham supporters, it

:48:43. > :48:48.was a thrilling match, with a winning goal in the closing

:48:49. > :48:50.was a thrilling match, with a next home game will be at

:48:51. > :48:51.was a thrilling match, with a ground, the Olympic Stadium, a move

:48:52. > :48:54.which has been controversial ground, the Olympic Stadium, a move

:48:55. > :48:57.of the cost of the deal to the taxpayer.

:48:58. > :49:00.Let's talk to David Blackmore - a life long West Ham supporter

:49:01. > :49:03.and the editor of the fan magazine 'Blowing Bubbles.' John Cross

:49:04. > :49:05.is Chief Football Writer for the Daily Mirror.

:49:06. > :49:08.He was at the match last night, and at the post

:49:09. > :49:14.Emily, let's start with you, because and sports journalist.

:49:15. > :49:16.Emily, let's start with you, because I think you were pretty near the

:49:17. > :49:24.bus. What did juicy? Yes, I I think you were pretty near the

:49:25. > :49:27.there probably around 5:30pm and was coming up Greenstreet, as the bus

:49:28. > :49:31.were starting to come in, and even at that time, I mean, it was

:49:32. > :49:34.were starting to come in, and even crowded, people were starting to get

:49:35. > :49:39.fenced in and having trouble moving. Didn't see any violence at

:49:40. > :49:42.fenced in and having trouble moving. escalate at all, it didn't have that

:49:43. > :49:45.kind of atmosphere. But by the time is upon us had arrived a little bit

:49:46. > :49:47.later who had footage on his phone, said it was really bad outside, and

:49:48. > :49:54.then another friend said it was really bad outside, and

:49:55. > :49:57.the ground. At that point, although the bus had already been damaged and

:49:58. > :50:01.we did not see it particularly, it took about 45 minutes to do what

:50:02. > :50:06.should have been a ten minute walk into the ground. And it was really

:50:07. > :50:12.quite stressful, and a quite panicked atmosphere because of the

:50:13. > :50:15.crowds. It felt a bit like a crash situation, or would that be

:50:16. > :50:20.exaggerating? No, I think that would be a fair statement. People that

:50:21. > :50:25.were coming in the opposite direction were coming out looking

:50:26. > :50:29.really quite scared, and there were mentions, of course it is not come

:50:30. > :50:34.parable, but with everything at Hillsborough about recently in the

:50:35. > :50:38.papers, people were concerned there was a crash situation going on so it

:50:39. > :50:43.was quite a worrying incident. David, how do you read what

:50:44. > :50:49.happened? There were fans chucking bottles. No getting away from that,

:50:50. > :50:52.the bottom line is the fact is 35 people were in that stadium, there

:50:53. > :50:55.were for the hundreds if not thousands who went to join in

:50:56. > :51:01.celebrations. Ten people have probably ruined it for West Ham. Did

:51:02. > :51:03.it ruin it for me? No, I had a wonderful evening, probably the best

:51:04. > :51:07.night of my life supporting West Ham. But if you people should be

:51:08. > :51:12.banned, they should be punished, they should never be able to go to a

:51:13. > :51:17.couple game again. But the other point, Man Utd, why were they so

:51:18. > :51:22.late to get to the ground? Does it matter? Why were the police not

:51:23. > :51:27.there? There was a serious question about whether there were enough

:51:28. > :51:31.police officers on duty. The last game at Upton Park, West Ham fans,

:51:32. > :51:34.they were out at two o'clock, why were the police not out in the main

:51:35. > :51:41.pubs at three o'clock, four o'clock, five o'clock Chamakh I got there at

:51:42. > :51:44.five and there were people on a main junction around Greenstreet and

:51:45. > :51:49.Upton Park, no police inside, gridlock. That Man Utd bus was a

:51:50. > :51:54.sitting duck, there were no police to escort it in. The questions have

:51:55. > :51:58.got to be asked, police and Man Utd. And grown men, tank top, deciding

:51:59. > :52:03.that would be a good idea to chuck some bottles at a bus. That is the

:52:04. > :52:06.bit I can't get my head around. Threw on a Saturday night if that

:52:07. > :52:10.was to happen wherever, they would be arrested, everything would be

:52:11. > :52:16.thrown at them. Why do people think it is OK at a football game to have

:52:17. > :52:21.a drink and threw bottles? I don't understand it. But the key point

:52:22. > :52:26.here, tend the blood of 40 odd thousand. John Cross from the

:52:27. > :52:31.mirror. How do you read it? I think David makes some really valid

:52:32. > :52:35.points, I must say. I do think Manchester United were too late, and

:52:36. > :52:40.indeed it was a small minority, it really was. But I do think

:52:41. > :52:43.throughout the day, I went in the morning, dropped my car off in the

:52:44. > :52:47.morning, and then went into central London because I knew it would be

:52:48. > :52:50.busy, and even in the morning, it was milling with people. There were

:52:51. > :52:56.70 people around because was that last game, the final farewell. It

:52:57. > :52:58.was exceptional circumstances, and I think Manchester United should have

:52:59. > :53:03.been advised to get there much earlier. From what I could see when

:53:04. > :53:10.I arrived at the ground, just gone five o'clock, I was amazed at the

:53:11. > :53:14.lack of police presence. They really weren't that many police officers

:53:15. > :53:17.present, and Greenstreet was exceptionally busy. I don't know how

:53:18. > :53:22.you expected get a coach through there, I really don't. A quick word

:53:23. > :53:25.about the game, from a West Ham point of view, what a thrilling

:53:26. > :53:31.fantastic, oh my God, fantastic last game at Upton Park. If we could have

:53:32. > :53:35.written the script, I think Slaven Bilic said, and it had everything,

:53:36. > :53:38.and emotionally I was drained. From the whole day, and the celebration

:53:39. > :53:44.at the end was very well done by the club as well, I thought. Emily, go

:53:45. > :53:48.on. One of the big things is that I don't want the actions of these ten

:53:49. > :53:51.people to overshadow what was actually a wonderful, wonderful

:53:52. > :53:56.evening for West Ham fans. It was without question one of the best

:53:57. > :54:01.West Ham nights of my life. The club did an absolutely fantastic job

:54:02. > :54:06.putting on a show, honouring former players, and of course our players

:54:07. > :54:11.gave us the best night possible. Yes, for once it was not typical

:54:12. > :54:20.West Ham. It almost was! Thank you very much Emily, David and John

:54:21. > :54:23.Cross. This morning, we have had two big political beasts set out their

:54:24. > :54:26.thoughts on why we should stay in or leave the European Union. The former

:54:27. > :54:30.Mayor of London Boris Johnson was first up, helping to launch

:54:31. > :54:32.London's launch former mayor, Boris Johnson is kicking off

:54:33. > :54:35.the bus's tour of the country in Cornwall -and Vicki Young

:54:36. > :54:45.Gordon Brown or so. Tell us what they have had to say. A relatively

:54:46. > :54:48.rare sighting of Gordon Brown in his first major intervention in the EU

:54:49. > :54:51.referendum but I think it is significant, in part because people

:54:52. > :54:57.forget what a sort of fire and brimstone campaign he can be in a

:54:58. > :55:01.sort of Labour campaign on the EU, which frankly has been a bit flat

:55:02. > :55:05.and lacklustre, and that is why in part Gordon Brown has been wheeled

:55:06. > :55:08.out to inject some energy, passion and motivation to try to get the

:55:09. > :55:12.Labour vote out, because there is a real concern Labour voters will just

:55:13. > :55:17.a time, and if that happens, Brexit wins. Today, Mr Brown was saying, we

:55:18. > :55:21.are an outward looking nation, a nation that had been explorers,

:55:22. > :55:24.inventors, missionaries, we don't retreat within ourselves, more than

:55:25. > :55:29.that we gave the European Union many of the values that underpin it, in

:55:30. > :55:34.terms of human rights, democracy, and he said he could understand why

:55:35. > :55:37.people were fearful, economically fearful, that they were concerned

:55:38. > :55:43.about cultural change through immigration. But the best way, he

:55:44. > :55:46.said, to safeguard against economic security and to safeguard our sense

:55:47. > :55:53.of national identity was through working together with others in

:55:54. > :55:58.Europe. Have a listen. Think of the maximum working week, think of

:55:59. > :56:02.holiday pay, think of the transfer of undertakings, when companies go

:56:03. > :56:06.bust and employees are protected, think of the social chapter in

:56:07. > :56:12.Europe, preventing a race to the bottom, preventing a dog eat dog

:56:13. > :56:15.competition between European nations vying for the inward investment that

:56:16. > :56:17.is available by social dumping and by the lowering of standards. We

:56:18. > :56:22.have managed by the lowering of standards. We

:56:23. > :56:25.better than that. And other rare beast today, the Brexit battlebus. I

:56:26. > :56:31.thought battlebus as politically extinct, not so, the

:56:32. > :56:36.Brexit campaign are launching their battlebus with Boris Johnson out and

:56:37. > :56:39.about, meeting people. This morning in an interview stressing that he

:56:40. > :56:47.thought the economy is being dragged down by a youth regulation. This is

:56:48. > :56:49.a referendum about taking back control of ?350 million a week which

:56:50. > :56:58.we could send according to our priorities here in this country.

:56:59. > :57:01.It's about taking back control of our borders and I think it's

:57:02. > :57:03.about getting back control of British democracy and I believe

:57:04. > :57:08.I have got many, many wonderful, happy memories of living and

:57:09. > :57:14.Most of my family come from one European country or another.

:57:15. > :57:23.Two things we learned about the of the European Union.

:57:24. > :57:26.Two things we learned about the rival campaigns.

:57:27. > :57:28.Two things we learned about the campaign, they really want to get

:57:29. > :57:32.Two things we learned about the they know he is their

:57:33. > :57:36.campaigner, but also they like him being out and about, in slightly

:57:37. > :57:39.anarchic, chaotic situations where anything could happen, because that

:57:40. > :57:43.plays to their narrative of the little guy against the big guy,

:57:44. > :57:46.taking on the political establishment, an antidote to David

:57:47. > :57:56.Cameron with the number ten podium moment. For Labour, we learn just

:57:57. > :57:59.how worried they are about getting the Labour vote out, and that is why

:58:00. > :58:00.they are relying on Gordon Brown to carry out a sort of rescue mission

:58:01. > :58:02.on the Labour carry out a sort of rescue mission

:58:03. > :58:09.all your messages about carry out a sort of rescue mission

:58:10. > :58:11.amongst the generations when it comes to mental health. Beverley

:58:12. > :58:15.Callard has tweeted, lives comes to mental health. Beverley

:58:16. > :58:19.Coronation Street as you know, I suffer from severe clinical

:58:20. > :58:23.depression, I do hope I haven't given this cursed to my children and

:58:24. > :58:25.grandchildren. Brilliant piece on mental health. Thank you to all of

:58:26. > :58:31.you who got in touch. If you log onto facebook and the bbc

:58:32. > :58:32.news page our reporter James Longman