16/05/2016

:00:22. > :00:24.We'll be live on the Greece-Macedonian border.

:00:25. > :00:28.Children as young as six are being called witches

:00:29. > :00:30.by their own families and enduring exorcisms to dispel

:00:31. > :00:33.We will hear from victims who were subjected

:00:34. > :00:46.Anything goes wrong in that family, I was the responsibility for it.

:00:47. > :00:49.So it wasn't anything about, like, genuine life problems,

:00:50. > :00:58.Rising levels of violence, self-harm and suicide behind bars

:00:59. > :01:01.threaten to severely undermine the government's prisons overhaul.

:01:02. > :01:16.We'll be talking to ex-inmates, one of whom was stabbed whilst inside.

:01:17. > :01:23.If you're getting in touch, do use the hashtag VictoriaLive

:01:24. > :01:27.and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:01:28. > :01:30.A little later in the programme we'll be talking to a woman whose

:01:31. > :01:32.mum was so scared she had dementia she wouldn't go

:01:33. > :01:39.We have the last one of our films by our brilliant Leicester fans

:01:40. > :01:42.who have been looking back over the past two incredible weeks

:01:43. > :01:44.for the club and we'll look ahead to Roy Hodgson's squad announcement

:01:45. > :01:48.If you support England, tell me which strikers you want

:01:49. > :01:51.in the squad and would you start with Wayne Rooney?

:01:52. > :01:53.Would you take Wayne Rooney to France?

:01:54. > :01:59.Our top story today: Officials in Greece say migrant arrivals

:02:00. > :02:02.to the country have dropped to a trickle because of the deal

:02:03. > :02:06.between the EU and Turkey which discourages asylum seekers.

:02:07. > :02:09.However, tens of thousands of people are still stranded in Greece hoping

:02:10. > :02:12.to get to other parts of the continent.

:02:13. > :02:22.The Greek administration has said it needs other EU governments to help.

:02:23. > :02:28.large number of refugees are living near the border between Greece and

:02:29. > :02:35.Macedonia. Tell us about the conditions that people are living

:02:36. > :02:40.in. There are more than 9000 people here in the camp behind me. This is

:02:41. > :02:45.the border with Macedonia, which is to the right of where I am standing.

:02:46. > :02:50.Many of the people here have been in the camp for more than two months

:02:51. > :02:53.now. The last time the border open was on the 23rd of February, and

:02:54. > :02:58.after that nobody has been able to get through from here. These are

:02:59. > :03:03.just people waiting, hoping to get across the border. This is not given

:03:04. > :03:07.an official camp recognised by the Greek government. These are just

:03:08. > :03:12.people living in tents. They cook outside. Food is provided to them by

:03:13. > :03:15.charities. But the Greek government does want to move them to what

:03:16. > :03:25.artificial camps because they feel they can provide them with better

:03:26. > :03:28.facilities. -- to official camps. It is difficult to move people because

:03:29. > :03:32.they want to be near the border because they want to go to the rest

:03:33. > :03:35.of Europe. And also they are worried about conditions in the other camps

:03:36. > :03:41.as well as whether or not they will be open camps, where they can walk

:03:42. > :03:49.in or out, like this is. So what will happen to those people? Well,

:03:50. > :03:53.they are trying to shift these people out into official camps and

:03:54. > :03:57.the government has said there are facilities ready for about 11,000

:03:58. > :04:01.people, which should pretty much take all of the population here.

:04:02. > :04:06.That should be ready in a few weeks' time. However, that is not a

:04:07. > :04:11.permanent solution. It is temporary. These people, most of them don't

:04:12. > :04:15.want to stay in Greece. They want to go to other countries in Europe. I

:04:16. > :04:20.asked a spokesman for the Greek government what the plan was, and he

:04:21. > :04:25.says they are planning to relocate 66,000 people in Greece, but the

:04:26. > :04:28.process is taking a very long time. Greece is expecting that other

:04:29. > :04:36.European governments will make that process quicker. Thank you. And now

:04:37. > :04:37.we can get a summary of the rest of the news from Joanna in the BBC

:04:38. > :04:41.newsroom. Hello. A full inquiry into how a fake bomb

:04:42. > :04:44.used in a training exercise came to be left at Manchester United's

:04:45. > :04:46.stadium is being demanded by the city's mayor and Police

:04:47. > :04:49.and Crime Commissioner. Tens of thousands of fans had to be

:04:50. > :04:53.evacuated from Old Trafford yesterday, shortly before United's

:04:54. > :04:54.game against Bournemouth. Our sports news correspondent,

:04:55. > :04:57.Andy Swiss, reports. PA ANNOUNCER: Due to the discovery

:04:58. > :05:00.of a suspicious package in the north-west quadrant

:05:01. > :05:02.of the ground, the match has been abandoned for

:05:03. > :05:04.today on police advice. It prompted the evacuation

:05:05. > :05:06.of a stadium, the postponement And in the end, it was

:05:07. > :05:13.just a training device. But no-one knew that at three

:05:14. > :05:16.o'clock yesterday afternoon, when first two stands and then

:05:17. > :05:18.the whole of Old Trafford were emptied, after a suspect

:05:19. > :05:24.package was found. Reports that the bomb squad have

:05:25. > :05:26.been arriving, here we are, Fans were praised for their calmness

:05:27. > :05:30.and composure as bomb disposal experts carried out

:05:31. > :05:35.a controlled explosion. But late last night,

:05:36. > :05:37.police confirmed the item device which had accidentally been

:05:38. > :05:43.left by a private company following a training exercise

:05:44. > :05:45.involving explosives search dogs. For two fans who had

:05:46. > :05:53.come over from Dallas, a 9000-mile round trip,

:05:54. > :05:56.just to see the game, the news was All we can do is laugh,

:05:57. > :05:59.but on the inside How can it be something that simple,

:06:00. > :06:03.just something that got So, on Tuesday night,

:06:04. > :06:08.the teams and the fans will return here, hoping finally to see

:06:09. > :06:12.this fixture played. In the meantime, the authorities

:06:13. > :06:15.will be trying to get to the bottom Our reporter Jayne McCubbin

:06:16. > :06:33.is outside the stadium. That fan selling it up when he asked

:06:34. > :06:37.how it can be that simple. What more do we know about the device? Huge

:06:38. > :06:45.embarrassment for this world-famous club. What we know this morning is

:06:46. > :06:49.that this was not a bomb, not a hoax replica, but a training device, as

:06:50. > :06:54.you heard in that report, and we know it was left by a private

:06:55. > :06:58.security force that had been brought in to help with sniffer dog training

:06:59. > :07:02.here at Old Trafford. We know that the last sniffer dog training took

:07:03. > :07:08.place last Wednesday and we know that that device was found in a

:07:09. > :07:12.public toilet inside the stadium. This was treated so seriously

:07:13. > :07:16.because of course the UK is on a heightened security alert at the

:07:17. > :07:20.moment. We are told that a terrorist attack on the UK is extremely

:07:21. > :07:24.likely. And that is why this event yesterday became the first match in

:07:25. > :07:28.the history of the Premier League to be cancelled because of security

:07:29. > :07:33.concerns. Because of that heightened sense of security. A huge training

:07:34. > :07:39.operation took place less than a mile away in the Trafford centre

:07:40. > :07:44.last week, no wonder it was taken so seriously, but what an embarrassment

:07:45. > :07:50.for this club. And presumably quite expensive? What will it cost?

:07:51. > :07:53.Absolutely. The estimated cost is upwards of ?3 million because the

:07:54. > :07:57.club has agreed to compensate everybody for their ticket prices

:07:58. > :08:01.and they have got to restage the match tomorrow night at 8pm, and

:08:02. > :08:06.they will have to pay for the policing of that event all over

:08:07. > :08:10.again. A huge embarrassment. The Police and Crime Commissioner Tony

:08:11. > :08:13.Lloyd is saying it is an outrage, a fiasco, and he wants a public

:08:14. > :08:16.inquiry into how this could have happened. Not just that the device

:08:17. > :08:22.was left at Old Trafford in the first place but how it was missed by

:08:23. > :08:26.the security staff before fans were allowed inside, before players took

:08:27. > :08:28.to the pitch yesterday. Lots of red faces behind my shoulders today.

:08:29. > :08:33.Thank you. There's a warning that safety

:08:34. > :08:36.in prisons in England and Wales has deteriorated rapidly

:08:37. > :08:37.in the past year. MPs say they're concerned

:08:38. > :08:39.about a soaring rise in suicides, attacks on staff, and serious

:08:40. > :08:42.assaults in the last 12 months. The Justice Committee said that

:08:43. > :08:45.improvement was urgently needed. Ministers say that

:08:46. > :08:51.improvements are being made. University tuition fees in England

:08:52. > :08:53.are likely to rise for students Under plans expected to be revealed

:08:54. > :08:57.by the government today, universities will face greater

:08:58. > :08:59.scrutiny of the quality It will also become easier

:09:00. > :09:08.to open new universities. But Labour has warned there aren't

:09:09. > :09:10.enough controls to stop too Natalie Bennett is to step down

:09:11. > :09:14.as the leader of the Green Party. She has announced she won't stand

:09:15. > :09:17.for re-election after her second two-year spell comes

:09:18. > :09:20.to an end in August. The Australian former journalist

:09:21. > :09:23.told The Guardian newspaper that she got some things wrong

:09:24. > :09:26.because she isn't what she calls a smooth, spin-trained,

:09:27. > :09:31.lifelong politician. Talks will continue later

:09:32. > :09:35.between the government and union representatives over

:09:36. > :09:36.the controversial new junior The negotiations, which are being

:09:37. > :09:44.hosted by the conciliation service Acas, were scheduled

:09:45. > :09:46.to finish last week, The medics have held

:09:47. > :09:49.a series of strikes over the new working terms,

:09:50. > :09:51.which ministers have said The group which represents big

:09:52. > :09:58.business in the UK has cut its economic growth forecast

:09:59. > :10:00.for this year and next. The CBI said the uncertainty over

:10:01. > :10:03.whether UK will remain part of the European Union was having

:10:04. > :10:10.a tangible impact on spending plans. It predicted the economy would grow

:10:11. > :10:14.by 2% in 2016 and 2017, down from a previous forecast

:10:15. > :10:21.of 2.3% and 2.1% respectively. Tens of thousands of British

:10:22. > :10:23.investors who lost money when the Spanish property market

:10:24. > :10:25.collapsed, could be Spain's Supreme Court has ruled that

:10:26. > :10:31.banks should pay back all deposits lost by those who bought

:10:32. > :10:33.off-plan apartments. Our Business Correspondent Joe

:10:34. > :10:44.Lynam has the details. For many it was to be their dream

:10:45. > :10:49.home. Endless sunshine and great value, but the Spanish property boom

:10:50. > :10:53.all went wrong in 2008. Thousands of British investors lost a fortune

:10:54. > :10:58.when they paid large deposits to secure apartments being built off

:10:59. > :11:02.plans. But when the developers went bust, as many did, all those cash

:11:03. > :11:06.deposits were lost. Stephanie Davies and her ailing husband handed over

:11:07. > :11:11.77,000 euros to a Spanish developer to secure her dream home by the

:11:12. > :11:16.Mediterranean. She lost it all. Absolutely gutted. It is an awful

:11:17. > :11:20.amount of money to lose. We just couldn't believe it, I suppose. My

:11:21. > :11:26.husband got so pale and all that mattered was him, really. He was in

:11:27. > :11:30.and out of hospital. It was a horrible illness. To be quite

:11:31. > :11:35.honest, the money was the least of our worries. But Stephanie's luck

:11:36. > :11:38.might be turning. A new ruling in Spain said that the bank should have

:11:39. > :11:42.protected all deposits when developers went bust and the

:11:43. > :11:46.repercussions could be huge. There is no official date but one law firm

:11:47. > :11:51.believes that up to 100,000 British investors could be in line for a

:11:52. > :11:55.rebate, which could mean an average pay-out of ?20,000 from each of

:11:56. > :12:02.plans investor. The whole thing could cost Spanish banks at least

:12:03. > :12:05.?15 billion. Now there is a real possibility to recover the money. It

:12:06. > :12:08.was impossible to win it back from the property developers in most

:12:09. > :12:12.places but now you can claim from the bank that they have the

:12:13. > :12:15.resources to pay the money back. For British investors, should they be

:12:16. > :12:22.quietly confident that they will get the money back? Yes. But as lawyers

:12:23. > :12:26.we can never say 100%. While investors like Stephanie can be

:12:27. > :12:29.optimistic, Spanish banks will not pay out easily. If they don't fight,

:12:30. > :12:32.the potential cost of these claims could wipe some of them out.

:12:33. > :12:35.Dame Helen Mirren, Kylie Minogue, and Ant and Dec have joined forces

:12:36. > :12:38.to help celebrate the Queen's 90th birthday in a pageant

:12:39. > :12:42.Her Majesty arrived in the Diamond Jubilee state coach

:12:43. > :12:45.before taking her seat for the show which featured nearly a thousand

:12:46. > :12:52.The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh arriving in the grounds

:12:53. > :12:58.This to be a particularly special night in the continuing celebrations

:12:59. > :13:05.A pageant involving 900 horses and 1500 people

:13:06. > :13:14.from around the world, putting on a spectacular display.

:13:15. > :13:18.And at a breathtaking pace, with the soldiers

:13:19. > :13:26.The musical performances, including with opera

:13:27. > :13:28.singer Katherine Jenkins, providing a brief

:13:29. > :13:36.Whilst most of the performers came from Britain or the Commonwealth,

:13:37. > :13:39.there were some show-stealing appearances by,

:13:40. > :13:43.amongst others, the women of the Royal Cavalry of Oman,

:13:44. > :13:45.and then the Karabakh riders from Azerbaijan took

:13:46. > :13:53.This pageant featured scenes from the Queen's life and times,

:13:54. > :14:01.from the Second World War to the Highland Games.

:14:02. > :14:03.And the finale featured, of course, a giant birthday

:14:04. > :14:27.Richard Galpin, BBC News. Looks like a good show. Back to you, Victoria.

:14:28. > :14:35.Thank you. Good morning. It is quarter past nine.

:14:36. > :14:36.First this morning, witchcraft in the UK.

:14:37. > :14:39.You may find it difficult Quite widely with mild nights to come.

:14:40. > :14:41.to believe but there are families in this country

:14:42. > :14:43.who believe their own child is a witch.

:14:44. > :14:46.It means children are being exorcised in order to dispel

:14:47. > :14:49.Experts say it's abuse and that children are being subjected

:14:50. > :14:51.to horrific treatment during exorcisms, ranging

:14:52. > :14:53.from chilli being rubbed into their eyes or genitals,

:14:54. > :14:56.Last year the Metropolitan Police dealt with 60 cases,

:14:57. > :15:00.an increase of over 50% compared with three years earlier.

:15:01. > :15:03.Labour MP Catherine McKinnell is worried that cases involving

:15:04. > :15:06.witchcraft aren't being recorded properly and she's going to raise it

:15:07. > :15:09.with other MPs who sit with her on the Education Select

:15:10. > :15:13.Our reporter Noel Philips is the first journalist to be given

:15:14. > :15:17.exclusive access to social workers in Tower Hamlets in London

:15:18. > :15:19.as they discuss the case of one six-year-old girl whose parents

:15:20. > :15:24.His film contains some disturbing images and lasts

:15:25. > :15:35.This is what some people believe being possessed

:15:36. > :15:45.I give you order, in the name of Jesus.

:15:46. > :15:52.Here this British bishop is carrying out a deliverance ceremony

:15:53. > :15:55.in South Africa for a young girl he believes is

:15:56. > :16:13.It's a craft, that's why it's called witchcraft.

:16:14. > :16:16.It was a nightmare, it's something that I don't think any

:16:17. > :16:23.It is abuse, children are damaged by it, frightened and sometimes

:16:24. > :16:58.This is more prominent, in my view, than ever.

:16:59. > :17:03.Mardoche has first-hand experience of this kind of abuse.

:17:04. > :17:05.He's 24-years-old but was accused of being a witch

:17:06. > :17:12.This was me, and these are more pictures.

:17:13. > :17:15.He came to London from the Congo to live with his extended family.

:17:16. > :17:17.This is the first time he is telling his story

:17:18. > :17:21.about being accused of eating human flesh and killing his own mum,

:17:22. > :17:28.I got accused of killing my own mother.

:17:29. > :17:33.The mum that brought you into this world,

:17:34. > :17:46.I was accused of flying at night, eating people.

:17:47. > :17:48.The baby crying at night and all that stuff, and I got

:17:49. > :17:57.I was going to their room, flying in their room, like a spirit.

:17:58. > :18:00.Like my body was still in my bedroom but my spirit was out,

:18:01. > :18:11.His extended family made plans to send him back to the Congo

:18:12. > :18:14.for an exorcism in 2005, as it was the only way

:18:15. > :18:17.they thought he could be cured, but his school alerted social

:18:18. > :18:19.workers at Islington Council, who he claims were considering going

:18:20. > :18:26.They were telling me, you need to go back.

:18:27. > :18:28.The pastor was saying I needed to go back.

:18:29. > :18:30.The headteacher, she didn't really get it at all, she didn't

:18:31. > :18:42.understand it, so she said, I can't write this letter

:18:43. > :18:44.for you guys to send this kid back because I don't believe

:18:45. > :18:50.So, yeah, that's how she got the social services involved.

:18:51. > :18:53.Do you think the social services understood what they were

:18:54. > :18:57.That's when they took quite a long time to make the decision,

:18:58. > :19:04.I want to know how my life would be now...

:19:05. > :19:08.I don't think I would be here, but I don't know, to be honest.

:19:09. > :19:10.But the idea that they were actually,

:19:11. > :19:19.But despite his ordeal, Mardoche refuses to live

:19:20. > :19:27.For the first time in 12 years, he's come back to the home

:19:28. > :19:34.He felt he had to return in order to move on.

:19:35. > :19:38.In my mind I was a prisoner, so I didn't really know,

:19:39. > :19:47.I was hoping, relying on social services or whatever.

:19:48. > :19:58.Islington Council has told us that social workers acted

:19:59. > :20:02.swiftly to remove Mardoche from his extended family,

:20:03. > :20:05.and they would never support a child being sent for a deliverance

:20:06. > :20:18.What would have happened to Mardoche if he had been sent back

:20:19. > :20:21.I have witnessed exorcisms take place in Africa,

:20:22. > :20:24.where the children have been really seriously physically abused.

:20:25. > :20:27.I've personally witnessed and researched where children out

:20:28. > :20:29.there have gone through terrible physical abuse, from fasting

:20:30. > :20:35.of water and food for three days, through to being bent double

:20:36. > :20:37.and forced to vomit out the so-called witchcraft,

:20:38. > :20:40.right through, I have seen pastors cutting children with razor blades

:20:41. > :20:47.He would have been in real mortal danger, if he'd been sent back.

:20:48. > :20:50.Doctor Richard Hoskins is an expert who was involved in Mardoche's case.

:20:51. > :20:54.He claims Islington Council had asked him to travel to the Congo,

:20:55. > :20:57.to find out what would happen if Mardoche was sent back.

:20:58. > :21:08.I see, I see, two spirits of evil standing at the back...

:21:09. > :21:11.Now a quick look online is all it takes to see religious leaders

:21:12. > :21:15.like Doctor Charles Motondo, carrying out deliverance ceremonies.

:21:16. > :21:22.He runs the Grace Faith Ministries in Leeds, and travels across the UK

:21:23. > :21:25.and Africa helping young people possessed by the devil.

:21:26. > :21:28.He says it is a full-time job, which he has been

:21:29. > :21:37.We believe in the power of prayer, to heal any form

:21:38. > :21:43.Christopher Okworu is a pharmacist by day, and a pastor by night.

:21:44. > :21:51.He says deliverance ceremonies have been around for hundreds of years.

:21:52. > :21:56.It's a craft, that's why it's called witchcraft.

:21:57. > :22:07.Casting out demons is not a new thing.

:22:08. > :22:09.It's a practice that has been going on for

:22:10. > :22:23.What we do, we adhere strongly to the word of God.

:22:24. > :22:26.But there are many faith leaders and parents who take matters

:22:27. > :22:35.Victoria Climbie and Kristy Bamu were brutally murdered

:22:36. > :22:38.by their families here in the UK, who thought they were setting them

:22:39. > :22:41.Kristy's death in 2010 drew attention to the fact that some

:22:42. > :22:44.children are still at risk from so-called traditional beliefs.

:22:45. > :22:47.What do you do if somebody walks in with their ten-year-old child

:22:48. > :22:51.and says, "Pastor, I believe my son or daughter is a witch"?

:22:52. > :22:55.Yes, what we do in cases like that is to commit the family

:22:56. > :23:02.I believe in cases of young children, you know,

:23:03. > :23:07.I will not decide straight away or take issues,

:23:08. > :23:19.We've seen evidence which shows some parents taking their children

:23:20. > :23:22.abroad to kill them of their so-called evil spirits.

:23:23. > :23:24.A 12-year-old girl was flown from Gatwick Airport

:23:25. > :23:30.The authorities are meant to keep their eyes open

:23:31. > :23:34.for children like her, but she slipped through the net.

:23:35. > :23:37.And it has since emerged, in her serious case review,

:23:38. > :23:40.that airport officials were given an anonymous tip off

:23:41. > :23:42.that she was being sent back home because she was suspected

:23:43. > :23:49.I've come to meet Professor Jean La Fontaine, who recently studied more

:23:50. > :23:52.than 30 cases reported to the Metropolitan Police.

:23:53. > :23:54.She says in half the cases that she's looked at,

:23:55. > :23:56.parents were responsible of accusing their own

:23:57. > :24:07.They may have chili rubbed into their eyes,

:24:08. > :24:10.or other parts of the body which will hurt them.

:24:11. > :24:14.Very often accused by, almost entirely accused by members

:24:15. > :24:19.of their own family, which is damaging in itself.

:24:20. > :24:21.It's a terrible thing for a child to be seriously accused

:24:22. > :24:27.And mothers will accuse their own children which is something

:24:28. > :24:32.Just how concerned are you about this kind of abuse happening?

:24:33. > :24:34.Terrible things happen, and in Africa even worse things,

:24:35. > :24:36.because children may be thrown into the streets

:24:37. > :24:44.This doesn't happen here, but children may be neglected

:24:45. > :25:00.The extended family of mum and dad, have a belief system that the victim

:25:01. > :25:05.in this case was actually spiritually possessed...

:25:06. > :25:08.So what is it like for social workers dealing with

:25:09. > :25:11.I've been given exclusive access to Tower Hamlets African Children

:25:12. > :25:16.Today they are discussing a recent case involving a six-year-old girl,

:25:17. > :25:25.whose family believe she was a witch.

:25:26. > :25:30.The cases are on the increase because as I said, when one

:25:31. > :25:33.case gets highlighted, people's eyes are opened.

:25:34. > :25:36.It's not an issue, in my view, that we can sit back and say

:25:37. > :25:39.is going to go away, it's not going to go away.

:25:40. > :25:42.Most primary schools would be unfamiliar with a lot

:25:43. > :25:45.of the spiritual elements with which this child is confronted.

:25:46. > :25:48.So I think our priority from this meeting has to be that someone

:25:49. > :25:50.with expertise in these matters contacts the school

:25:51. > :25:53.I don't think the majority of parents are aware

:25:54. > :25:56.I think most of the parents are looking for answers,

:25:57. > :26:00.in addressing the needs of these children that are presenting

:26:01. > :26:06.problems to them that they can't handle.

:26:07. > :26:09.And there are some parents, their way of dealing with it is just

:26:10. > :26:15.removing the child out of this country.

:26:16. > :26:17.The six-year-old in this family, what is life like for her,

:26:18. > :26:23.We have to think about the system, and in this case the system is

:26:24. > :26:28.How can a family demonise a child to a point that they say

:26:29. > :26:34.I have seen the impact witchcraft can have on children.

:26:35. > :26:37.Mardoche was the only person willing to talk to me on camera,

:26:38. > :26:44.because so many are afraid and are suffering in silence.

:26:45. > :26:46.So many kids are losing their lives because they are not

:26:47. > :26:53.I was very lucky to be strong enough to survive it.

:26:54. > :26:54.But there are so many questions that need answering.

:26:55. > :26:57.Why are children being abused because of traditional faith

:26:58. > :27:05.What can be done to stop it happening?

:27:06. > :27:06.Professor Jean La Fontaine believes not enough is being done

:27:07. > :27:09.to tackle the problem, and is now calling for a helpline

:27:10. > :27:14.I would like to enable children to report it themselves.

:27:15. > :27:17.A well funded helpline, which they could access

:27:18. > :27:24.easily and for free, would enable children to report

:27:25. > :27:27.somebody who had accused them of witchcraft and

:27:28. > :27:36.At the moment they are completely silenced, and until the damage done

:27:37. > :27:41.to them is very serious, nobody knows they're being accused.

:27:42. > :27:48.So I would like to empower children to tell us.

:27:49. > :28:10.And just after 10am, we'll be speak to someone who says

:28:11. > :28:13.she was branded a witch and abused as a child as well as

:28:14. > :28:18.an organisation supporting victims of witchcraft accusations.

:28:19. > :28:23.Warnings over rising instances of violence,

:28:24. > :28:31.We'll be asking what needs to be done to keep prisoners safe.

:28:32. > :28:34.It has been their greatest season ever.

:28:35. > :28:36.We'll bring you the story of Leicester City's incredible

:28:37. > :28:39.Premier League success told through the eyes of two

:28:40. > :28:47.of their biggest supporters in the fans' diary.

:28:48. > :28:53.It is time for the latest news headlines. Here is Joanna.

:28:54. > :28:55.Migrant arrivals to Greece have dropped to a trickle

:28:56. > :28:58.because of the deal between the EU and Turkey which discourages asylum

:28:59. > :29:03.But tens of thousands of people are still stranded in Greece hoping

:29:04. > :29:04.to get to other parts of the continent.

:29:05. > :29:10.The Greek administration has said it needs other EU governments to help.

:29:11. > :29:14.A full inquiry into how a fake bomb used in a training exercise came

:29:15. > :29:16.to be left at Manchester United's stadium is being demanded

:29:17. > :29:19.by the city's mayor and Police and Crime Commissioner.

:29:20. > :29:23.Tens of thousands of fans had to be evacuated from Old Trafford

:29:24. > :29:33.yesterday, shortly before United's game against Bournemouth.

:29:34. > :29:39.Child welfare experts are warning about children being subjected to

:29:40. > :29:46.horrific treatment because their families believe they are witches.

:29:47. > :29:52.Children are exorcised in order to dispel what their parents believe

:29:53. > :29:57.are evil spirits. Last year the Metropolitan Police

:29:58. > :30:01.dealt with 60 cases an increase of over 50% compared with three years

:30:02. > :30:02.earlier. There are fears cases involving witchcraft are not being

:30:03. > :30:05.recorded properly. Anything goes wrong in that family,

:30:06. > :30:08.I was the responsibility for it. So it wasn't anything about, like,

:30:09. > :30:10.genuine life problems. There's a warning that safety

:30:11. > :30:19.in prisons in England and Wales has deteriorated rapidly

:30:20. > :30:21.in the past year. MPs say they're concerned

:30:22. > :30:24.about a soaring rise in suicides, attacks on staff, and serious

:30:25. > :30:26.assaults in the last 12 months. The Justice Committee said that

:30:27. > :30:28.improvement was urgently needed. Ministers say that

:30:29. > :30:37.improvements are being made. University tuition fees in England

:30:38. > :30:39.are likely to rise for students Under plans expected to be revealed

:30:40. > :30:48.by the Government today, universities will face greater

:30:49. > :30:50.scrutiny of the quality It will also become easier

:30:51. > :30:54.to open new universities. But Labour has warned there aren't

:30:55. > :30:56.enough controls to stop too Natalie Bennett is to step down

:30:57. > :31:06.as the leader of the Green Party. She has announced she won't stand

:31:07. > :31:09.for re-election after her second two-year spell comes

:31:10. > :31:11.to an end in August. The Australian former journalist

:31:12. > :31:13.told The Guardian newspaper that she got some things wrong

:31:14. > :31:16.because she isn't what she calls a smooth, spin-trained,

:31:17. > :31:17.lifelong politician. That's a summary of

:31:18. > :31:33.the latest BBC News. More Natalie Bennett in a moment.

:31:34. > :31:36.First the messages from you on the witchcraft film. Stewart says all

:31:37. > :31:41.this nonsense in the name of religion. This is the 21st century.

:31:42. > :31:47.We have a new religion now and it is called science. Red Queen tweets

:31:48. > :31:50.this. Accusing children of being witches or possessed by demons

:31:51. > :31:56.should be a criminal offence. That will come up in our conversation

:31:57. > :32:00.later. Peter said the piece on witchcraft is really interesting.

:32:01. > :32:07.Robert says, rest of the deluded pastors and let them feel the full

:32:08. > :32:19.weight of the law. -- arrest. And Maria is an England fan. Roy Hodgson

:32:20. > :32:25.is announcing his squad live at 11 o'clock and BBC News will show it

:32:26. > :32:29.first. She says she wouldn't take Wayne Rooney but she would take

:32:30. > :32:35.Marcus Rashford. What does Jessica think? Can you hear me? Would you

:32:36. > :32:39.take Wayne Rooney and would you take Marcus Rashford? That is the

:32:40. > :32:42.question. Marcus Rashford has done very well for himself. Nobody

:32:43. > :32:46.expected him to do as well as he has done but is he ready for a major

:32:47. > :32:53.tournament when he is so young? I don't know. He is 18. He is a

:32:54. > :32:57.grown-up! Wayne Rooney is the captain of England and can you

:32:58. > :33:01.really leave him behind? No. And you probably wouldn't want to if you

:33:02. > :33:05.were a proper England supporter. Take it away, Jessica. The record

:33:06. > :33:12.books have been written in Formula One by Max Verstappen, the youngest

:33:13. > :33:16.driver to win a Grand Prix aged 18 years and 228 days. He started the

:33:17. > :33:19.Grand Prix in Spain in fourth but took advantage after this crash

:33:20. > :33:24.between Mercedes team-mates Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton on the

:33:25. > :33:29.opening lap. Even more remarkable, it was Max Verstappen's debut race

:33:30. > :33:33.for Red Bull after only being promoted to the team last month. It

:33:34. > :33:37.feels amazing. I can't believe it. It was a great race and I have to

:33:38. > :33:42.say thank you to the team for giving me such a great car. To win

:33:43. > :33:46.straightaway in the first race is an amazing feeling. You heard about the

:33:47. > :33:50.events at Old Trafford earlier, which overshadowed the fact that it

:33:51. > :33:53.was the final day of the Premier League season. Manchester City all

:33:54. > :33:54.but secured their spot in the Champions League next season with a

:33:55. > :34:10.1-1 draw at Swansea City. 19-year-old Kelly Iheanacho gave

:34:11. > :34:14.City the lead after just five minutes but Andre Ayew's deflected

:34:15. > :34:17.free kick levelled the game just before half-time. City couldn't find

:34:18. > :34:25.a winner but will finish fourth unless Manchester United beat

:34:26. > :34:29.Bournemouth by 19 goals on Tuesday. Newcastle fans gave manager Rafael

:34:30. > :34:33.Benitez a standing ovation after thrashing Tottenham Hotspur 5-1.

:34:34. > :34:36.Three of the Newcastle goals that St James' Park came after striker

:34:37. > :34:39.Alexander Mitchell of it had been sent off in the second half. Rafa

:34:40. > :34:43.Benitez has a break clause in his contract but hasn't decided his

:34:44. > :34:47.future yet. Tottenham Hotspur's defeat meant Arsenal finished second

:34:48. > :34:51.in the league for the first time since 2005 and ahead of their north

:34:52. > :34:58.London rivals. Olivier Giroud scored a hat-trick in a 4-0 win over

:34:59. > :35:01.relegated Aston Villa. The fact that we didn't give up when we were under

:35:02. > :35:07.huge pressure, we kept our togetherness, but that is part of

:35:08. > :35:12.the DNA of this club. We did that until the last minute of the season.

:35:13. > :35:25.That is why we are in front of them. It was Celtic manager Ronny Deila's

:35:26. > :35:28.last game in charge. Celtic beat Motherwell 7-0 in the Scottish

:35:29. > :35:33.Premiership and 16-year-old substitute Jack Atchison became

:35:34. > :35:38.Celtic's youngest ever player and goal-scorer, its glory with his

:35:39. > :35:44.first touch. It is Celtic's fifth title in a row. A week before the

:35:45. > :35:48.French Open and on his 29th birthday, Andy Murray chalked up a

:35:49. > :35:53.notable victory over his rival Novak Djokovic at the Rome Masters. And it

:35:54. > :35:58.was thrilling. Watch this. The first time Andy Murray has beaten Novak

:35:59. > :36:01.Djokovic in their last 14 meetings. Bring on the French Open. World

:36:02. > :36:06.number one Serena Williams claimed the women's title in Rome, beating

:36:07. > :36:10.compatriot Madison Keys in straight sets for her first tournament win in

:36:11. > :36:15.nine months. Tom Daley secured the third individual ten metre European

:36:16. > :36:18.Championships gold of his career with a stunning performance at the

:36:19. > :36:22.Aquatics championships in London. His medal adds to the mixed three

:36:23. > :36:26.metres synchronised gold and men's ten metres synchronised silver he

:36:27. > :36:30.won in the past week. Yesterday there was silver medals for Rebecca

:36:31. > :36:47.Gallantree and Alysia blag in the synchronised three metres

:36:48. > :36:51.springboard. -- Alicia Blagg we will have the headlines for you at ten

:36:52. > :36:53.o'clock. Thank you. What is happening? It is all happening here.

:36:54. > :36:58.Our studio died. OK, thank you. As we've been hearing in the news,

:36:59. > :37:01.Natalie Bennett is stepping down Our political guru Norman Smith

:37:02. > :37:12.is in Westminster for us. She has had some successes. They had

:37:13. > :37:16.their best ever election result last time and they have many more party

:37:17. > :37:19.members and they have got MEPs, but it didn't really happen for her.

:37:20. > :37:24.When we were preparing this item, I said to my colleague that we had to

:37:25. > :37:29.get some material together on Natalie Brown. Of course that is not

:37:30. > :37:33.her name. That tells us two things. Firstly that I have a shocking

:37:34. > :37:37.memory, but also that he did not really carve out much of a profile.

:37:38. > :37:41.When you are the leader of a smaller party, you have got to shout from

:37:42. > :37:47.the rooftops. Somebody likes Nigel Farage, he gets himself on the news.

:37:48. > :37:50.She never really managed that and she also suffered from former

:37:51. > :37:54.leaders syndrome. Her predecessor Caroline Lucas was very savvy and

:37:55. > :37:57.she knew how to get the Green Party into the headlines and she was

:37:58. > :38:04.always compared and contrasted with that. Above all, she was a bit of an

:38:05. > :38:08.awkward camel then it came to media interviews. She just looked awkward

:38:09. > :38:11.and unhappy, as if she would always rather be anywhere but there. And

:38:12. > :38:20.just look at these interviews that we have picked. Some of her rather

:38:21. > :38:24.dismal car crashes. What we are looking at in terms of the figures

:38:25. > :38:33.here, what we need to do, is actually... We are looking at a

:38:34. > :38:43.total spend of 2.7 billion. But what is the total cost of 500,000 homes?

:38:44. > :38:48.It is a cost of 60,000 per home. How are you going to pay for the land?

:38:49. > :38:57.Right. What we are looking at doing is basically... Are you all right?

:38:58. > :38:59.Sorry. As you can probably hear, I have got a terrible cold. I am very

:39:00. > :39:14.sorry to hear that. It was excruciating to hear that

:39:15. > :39:20.interview. Is she letting the party down? She is not going to answer

:39:21. > :39:26.that! No! One of your flagship policies is for the states to give

:39:27. > :39:30.every adult basic weekly income of ?72, the so-called citizen's income,

:39:31. > :39:36.whether they need it or not, at a cost of up to ?280 billion. How

:39:37. > :39:39.would you pay for that? First of all it is with saying that is a gross

:39:40. > :39:43.cost, so half the cost of that would come from replacing existing

:39:44. > :39:50.benefits of reducing administration costs. Give me an example of what

:39:51. > :39:52.benefit it would replace. Jobseeker's allowance. What does

:39:53. > :40:00.that save? Hold on. Jobseeker's allowance only costs 3 billion, so

:40:01. > :40:04.you are a long way off 280. But it costs a massive amount to

:40:05. > :40:09.administer. The cost of administration is extremely low with

:40:10. > :40:25.this one. If you look at universal child benefit... Wait, wait, wait.

:40:26. > :40:32.Ed Miliband... Ed Miliband... All right. You have made the point. I

:40:33. > :40:37.think Natalie wanted to reply. Natalie, briefly. I think it was

:40:38. > :40:42.probably by turn. Gosh, was that only one year ago? Carnage. Let me

:40:43. > :40:47.ask you about something totally different. In America, presidential

:40:48. > :40:53.frontrunner Donald Trump is having a go at the London Mayor, Sadiq Khan.

:40:54. > :40:58.What has it got to do with him? Donald has spoken, not just about

:40:59. > :41:01.Sadiq Khan but also about David Cameron, who described his idea of

:41:02. > :41:08.banning all Muslim is from going into the USA as divisive and wrong.

:41:09. > :41:13.He said of David Cameron that they are not going to have good relations

:41:14. > :41:17.if he becomes President. He has also reiterated his support for Brexit,

:41:18. > :41:23.for leaving the European Union. But Mr Khan, when that row blew up,

:41:24. > :41:27.because he would be banned from going to the US Donald Trump became

:41:28. > :41:35.President, and at the time Mr Khan said his comments were ignorant and

:41:36. > :41:38.likely to fuel extremism. He also said they were ignorant. Now Donald

:41:39. > :41:46.Trump has hit back by challenging Mr Khan to an IQ test. Take a look. I

:41:47. > :41:51.wished him well but now I don't care about him. It doesn't make any

:41:52. > :41:58.difference. Let's see how he does. Let's see if he is a good man. Are

:41:59. > :42:01.you offended by what he said? Yes, because he has never met me. They

:42:02. > :42:05.are very rude statements and tell him I will remember those

:42:06. > :42:09.statements. They are very nasty statements. We did not see him

:42:10. > :42:14.challenging him to an IQ test but Mr Khan said they will not be picking

:42:15. > :42:18.up a pen and pencil to do an IQ test. I don't think this Cameron's

:42:19. > :42:22.people are bothered about being criticised by Donald Trump. They say

:42:23. > :42:26.it look at all the guys supporting us in EU referendum debate. Mark

:42:27. > :42:30.Carney, Christine Lagarde, pretty much every other western leader. In

:42:31. > :42:35.that they got? Donald Trump! Said they are not that bothered about Mr

:42:36. > :42:39.Trump having a go at Prime Minister. Thank you.

:42:40. > :42:42.Coming up in the next 15 minutes, the Foxes fans have been

:42:43. > :42:45.We'll bring you the story of Leicester City's incredible

:42:46. > :42:48.Premier League success told through the eyes of two

:42:49. > :42:56.How safe is it to be locked up in or work in one

:42:57. > :42:59.Suicide is at its highest level for a decade.

:43:00. > :43:03.There were 20,000 assaults last year, and 5000 attacks on staff.

:43:04. > :43:13.Today, a parliamentary report warns the rising levels of violence,

:43:14. > :43:15.self-harm and suicide threaten to severely undermine

:43:16. > :43:23.We thought we'd ask people with experience

:43:24. > :43:25.and knowledge of the system, if they were starting from scratch,

:43:26. > :43:27.how would they design a prison system now?

:43:28. > :43:32.Fit for purpose, fit for the 21st century.

:43:33. > :43:34.John Attard is a national officer for the Prison Governors

:43:35. > :43:36.Association and one of the governors at Holloway Prison.

:43:37. > :43:40.And Kelly Judge has been in an out of prison on drugs charges

:43:41. > :43:54.I think your most recent spell was for just under two weeks back in

:43:55. > :43:57.March. Is that right? Yes. Thank you for coming on the programme. You

:43:58. > :44:02.have seen a lot of violence and self harm in jails. Tell the audience

:44:03. > :44:06.about that. On a day-to-day basis it can change from quite a smooth

:44:07. > :44:16.running atmosphere to a very volatile and violent atmosphere. It

:44:17. > :44:24.could be for a number of reasons. Drugs. Interaction with an officer.

:44:25. > :44:29.Someone doesn't feel they are being listened to maybe. Said they lash

:44:30. > :44:35.out towards a member of staff? It depends. On a day-to-day basis you

:44:36. > :44:42.have a lot of people in a confined environment. Feelings and actions

:44:43. > :44:46.are fraught. If a prisoner feels they need something and they are not

:44:47. > :44:54.getting it, then they are going to go to any lengths to try and get it.

:44:55. > :44:58.You have also seen incidents of self harm, haven't you? Yes, I was

:44:59. > :45:04.sharing a cell with another female and I came back from a course one

:45:05. > :45:08.day and she was sitting in the cell with her arm up on the window ledge,

:45:09. > :45:14.and her coat on, which was kind of strange. I asked why she had her

:45:15. > :45:20.coat on and why her arm was up there and he took off her coat and her arm

:45:21. > :45:24.was wrapped in toilet roll. -- she took off her coat. Blood was seeping

:45:25. > :45:32.through the toilet roll and down the window. It was my feeling to get on

:45:33. > :45:39.the bus immediately and the officer came to the door. I remember them

:45:40. > :45:43.opening the hatch to the door and looking through and saying what's

:45:44. > :45:48.up? I said this feels like an incident that I can't really tell

:45:49. > :45:53.you about through a door. I need you to open up and look at what is going

:45:54. > :45:59.on. I had the prisoner screaming in my ear, don't tell the officers.

:46:00. > :46:01.They get put on report. There were razor blades that she had hidden in

:46:02. > :46:10.the cell. So she cut her arm with a razor

:46:11. > :46:15.blade? I said there is something in here that she is not telling me

:46:16. > :46:20.about that she doing this with. There is a protocol when you get a

:46:21. > :46:25.razor blade out in prison that you hand in your ID card and they give

:46:26. > :46:29.you your razor blade and they show them the blade in the plastic

:46:30. > :46:33.hold-all and you put it in a yellow bin. Why had she done that to

:46:34. > :46:41.herself, do you know? Because she was locked away in her cell. Right.

:46:42. > :46:46.It is because people can't cope with the environment... They are in,

:46:47. > :46:51.yeah. You mentioned drugs. You've used heroin in jail, haven't you?

:46:52. > :46:55.Yeah. Naive as I may sound, I'm shocked that you can get heroin

:46:56. > :46:59.inside a prison amongst, a number of drugs, it is not just heroin, is it,

:47:00. > :47:07.how does it get in? There is a number of ways. I think people new

:47:08. > :47:11.in, like coming through, take it in with them, if they know they're

:47:12. > :47:14.going to court and they know there is a chance they're going to prison,

:47:15. > :47:21.they will try and get it in that way. Visits. Is everyone not

:47:22. > :47:25.searched? They are. Right. But there is ways and means that people find

:47:26. > :47:31.because they are that desperate to use in jail. And obviously people

:47:32. > :47:35.taking drugs inside will add to that unpredictable atmosphere which can

:47:36. > :47:45.lead to violence and all of rest of it? The nature of the prison if they

:47:46. > :47:49.know one person has got a substance and the girls that want the

:47:50. > :47:53.substance is outnumbered by the drugs going in, there is fraught

:47:54. > :47:58.atmosphere. John, you've worked in prisons for nearly three decades, I

:47:59. > :48:02.think, including places like Pentonville and you are at Holloway

:48:03. > :48:08.at the moment. Before I ask you why you think the levels of violence are

:48:09. > :48:11.so high, why should people care if inmates harm themselves or take

:48:12. > :48:14.drugs in jail. Some might think, that's what happens. If you commit a

:48:15. > :48:19.crime, that's the kind of thing you will end up doing in jail? It is a

:48:20. > :48:24.god question. Most people, all of us, don't want to be victims of

:48:25. > :48:27.crime. And when we are, the expectation is that the State will

:48:28. > :48:32.do something about that and they will punish the offender. The actual

:48:33. > :48:36.punishment is losing your liberty, it is going into prison. I think it

:48:37. > :48:39.would be a pretty poor reflection on us as a society if when they are in

:48:40. > :48:42.prison we weren't trying to do something to stop them committing

:48:43. > :48:45.offences again so when somebody comes back out of prison they are

:48:46. > :48:50.actually less likely to commit offences so we have fewer victims.

:48:51. > :48:54.It is about being civilised and treat people in a civilised manner

:48:55. > :48:58.and to stop them re-offending when they leave? Absolutely. I know you

:48:59. > :49:03.will tell me the rising levels of violence are to do with fewer prison

:49:04. > :49:10.staff and that's true. On the whole of the prison estate, staff employed

:49:11. > :49:13.has fallen by 29% in the last few years, that's 13,000 fewer staff.

:49:14. > :49:20.That's the total in terms of the number of staff. Is it as simple as

:49:21. > :49:24.about the number of prison officers? Most people will assume that an

:49:25. > :49:31.organisation, if it is losing staff, will use that as a simple excuse to

:49:32. > :49:34.explain away things. Prisons are complex organisations and the hub,

:49:35. > :49:39.the heart of that organisation, are the people. If you have got fewer

:49:40. > :49:42.people then you can't do some of the most simple things. Like? For

:49:43. > :49:48.example unlocking a prisoner to take them to education. Unlocking a

:49:49. > :49:52.prisoner to take them to their rehab courses, unlocking a prisoner to

:49:53. > :49:55.take them to healthcare, but it goes further than that because Kelly will

:49:56. > :49:58.tell you that one of the most important things in a prison is

:49:59. > :50:02.staff and prisoner relationships and if a prisoner is in need and they

:50:03. > :50:05.want to speak to somebody, for five or ten minutes or 15 minutes or

:50:06. > :50:10.however long it takes, then that officer has got to be available to

:50:11. > :50:15.do that. Because the levels have dropped so much, the last three or

:50:16. > :50:20.four years, we have lost 13730 staff in total. If you can't have those

:50:21. > :50:24.interactions then we're not going to be able to do the simplest of things

:50:25. > :50:30.like keep people safe and then it goes further as well. The frequency

:50:31. > :50:35.of cell searches reduces. People might say, oh, surely they are safe

:50:36. > :50:38.and strong buildings, but they are. And the cell search looks at the

:50:39. > :50:42.property in the cell, was there evidence that somebody was bullying

:50:43. > :50:47.and you would see the number of goods they had in their cell. If

:50:48. > :50:50.someone had a lot of stuff, you would think they might have been

:50:51. > :50:53.dealing in drugs which is important for us and we put intelligence

:50:54. > :50:56.reports in and the security department would deal with that.

:50:57. > :50:59.Security departments are smaller, we have less searching going on and

:51:00. > :51:04.there are fewer staff. That all seems it make sense. If you were

:51:05. > :51:08.given a blank sheet of paper and you could design from scratch the prison

:51:09. > :51:11.system in England and Wales, what would you do differently, Kelly? Oh,

:51:12. > :51:15.I have been thinking about this since I was asked the question last

:51:16. > :51:24.night and it is a difficult question because it is such a wide spectrum,

:51:25. > :51:27.but the support and the treatment for the vulnerability and

:51:28. > :51:36.recognising people's needs as individuals. I was saying... That's

:51:37. > :51:42.an acknowledgemed of inmates' needs and also more staff? Maybe more

:51:43. > :51:46.staff. Or more compassionate staff? It is the field they're in. It is

:51:47. > :51:50.not just prison officers. Prison officers are there to do a job and

:51:51. > :51:58.lock up, but there is also other staff that need to be there that are

:51:59. > :52:01.compassionate with drug addiction. Self-harming, family abuse, all the

:52:02. > :52:05.different circumstances that lead to people being in prison in the first

:52:06. > :52:08.place. What about you, John? What would you say if I gave you a blank

:52:09. > :52:13.sheet of paper and you could do whatever you wanted with the prison

:52:14. > :52:17.system in England and Wales, where would you start? I wouldn't chuck

:52:18. > :52:22.the baby out of the bath water. The Prison Service has been around for a

:52:23. > :52:27.long time. We got very good. It is only in the fast four years that we

:52:28. > :52:32.have seen this incredible increase in violence, suicides and self-harm,

:52:33. > :52:36.etcetera, we need to get back to doing the basics. Create an

:52:37. > :52:40.environment that's safe and decent. A lot of what's happened now is

:52:41. > :52:45.because governors have lost their autonomy. Governors can't make

:52:46. > :52:48.decisions about who they contract with for supply of good and for

:52:49. > :52:53.education... That comes from the Ministry of Justice, does it now? It

:52:54. > :52:58.is centrally controlled and we are in a ridiculous situation where we

:52:59. > :53:02.have a dictated benchmark which says how many staff you have, what grade

:53:03. > :53:08.they must be, what jobs they must do and actually, prisons are different.

:53:09. > :53:14.So to enforce a model for one prison and say that has to apply for all

:53:15. > :53:18.prisons is not logical. So you would go for more staff and you would go

:53:19. > :53:21.for more independence for the governors? Indeed. Thank you very

:53:22. > :53:24.much. Thank you for coming on the programme. Thank you.

:53:25. > :53:26.Who will be in Roy Hodgson's provisional England

:53:27. > :53:30.Will there be room for Manchester United's star

:53:31. > :53:39.We'll bring you the latest just before 11am.

:53:40. > :53:41.Premier League champions Leicester City closed

:53:42. > :53:43.their victorious season with a 1-1 draw at Chelsea.

:53:44. > :53:46.They finished 10 points ahead of the chasing pack.

:53:47. > :53:48.Tonight Claudio Ranieri's team will celebrate their remarkable

:53:49. > :53:52.season with a celebratory open top bus parade through the city.

:53:53. > :54:00.We've been following two Leicester fans as their dreams came true

:54:01. > :54:03.and their team beat the odds to do what no one thought possible.

:54:04. > :54:07.Here is the story of the last couple of weeks through the eyes of lovely

:54:08. > :54:08.Sandra Fixter and lovely Gary L Johnson.

:54:09. > :54:15.The "L" stands for Leicester. Seriously, it does!

:54:16. > :54:48.We've just won the Premier League. The city is absolutely buzzing!

:54:49. > :54:51.SINGING: Championes, Championes, Ole, ole, ole.

:54:52. > :55:00.We even have a few people dressed up as pizzas,

:55:01. > :55:02.which is obviously our link to Claudio Ranieri, who said

:55:03. > :55:05.at the start of the season that he would buy all the players

:55:06. > :55:13.Well that seems a very, very long time ago now.

:55:14. > :55:26.It's carnival atmosphere. There's Ranieri, walking backwards.

:55:27. > :55:33.Championes, championes, ole, ole, ole!

:55:34. > :55:36.COMMENTATOR: Leicester City are the Premier League Champions.

:55:37. > :55:39.Leicester City are the Premier League Champions!

:55:40. > :55:47.It's the most amazing thing ever, something you would probably never

:55:48. > :55:50.dream as a Leicester fan of ever, ever saying, and we've just seen

:55:51. > :55:55.Wes Morgan, Leicester City club captain raising

:55:56. > :56:04.The game is brilliant, we played ever so well.

:56:05. > :56:10.We didn't give up, and we took the game to them.

:56:11. > :56:29.We're just waiting now to go to Chelsea.

:56:30. > :56:32.We are a couple of minutes away from us leaving the stadium,

:56:33. > :56:34.and see our team get a guard of honour against

:56:35. > :56:45.There's no pressure, we're going down there to play it

:56:46. > :56:48.and I just have one hope, that Jamie Vardy scores a bag full,

:56:49. > :57:02.because we want him to get the Golden Boot as well.

:57:03. > :57:04.CHANTING: We're all going on the European Tour!

:57:05. > :57:06.This is our Leicester City family that we've been travelling

:57:07. > :57:09.with for the whole season, and the driver's here as well.

:57:10. > :57:21.But we've been travelling all season long and we will be

:57:22. > :57:24.Whatever happens we will be travelling the whole seaon -

:57:25. > :57:26.to Europe, to the Charity Community Shield, to every home

:57:27. > :57:29.and away game next season, we will all be here,

:57:30. > :57:31.being ready to be champions again next season.

:57:32. > :57:34.All we could do was hope and dream, and the dreame is just getting

:57:35. > :57:37.bigger and bigger and more fraught, and it culminates in what has been

:57:38. > :57:40.the most fantastic season for a Leicester City supporter that

:57:41. > :57:43.I've ever known in 53 years of going down to support them.

:57:44. > :58:00.It's the stuff dreams are made of, thank you.

:58:01. > :58:05.Thank you very much, Sandra. Thank you very much, Gary.

:58:06. > :58:11.Maybe we will do it all again next season, who knows?

:58:12. > :58:18.We will speak to a woman who was at the age of six was accused of being

:58:19. > :58:23.a witch. She endured horrific abuse as they attempted to rid her of

:58:24. > :58:28.so-called evil spirits. Now, it is time for the weather. Thank you very

:58:29. > :58:31.much, Victoria. We had high pressure dominating the scene. Lots of

:58:32. > :58:37.sunshine by day and it was chilly at night with a touch of frost in many

:58:38. > :58:41.rural places. We have had loads of lovely Weather Watcher pictures

:58:42. > :58:44.coming in. This one as well in Cornwall. More in the way of cloud

:58:45. > :58:48.as you can see here. Some areas started off with cloud, mist and fog

:58:49. > :58:52.too. For Northern Ireland, we a had a lot of cloud around, but that's

:58:53. > :58:54.breaking up now and you can see from the satellite picture just what's

:58:55. > :58:58.going on and where most of the cloud is. Northern Ireland, across

:58:59. > :59:01.Scotland, which is also starting to break up now, little patches of

:59:02. > :59:04.cloud across England and Wales also breaking up too. But a good deal of

:59:05. > :59:07.sunshine around. That's how it will stay towards the afternoon with just

:59:08. > :59:11.some cloud bubbling up like we have seen over the last few days and it

:59:12. > :59:14.will feel a touch warmer across-the-board than it has done

:59:15. > :59:18.over the weekend. That said, the cloud will continue to be thick

:59:19. > :59:23.enough for the odd spot of light rain across the Hebrides and the

:59:24. > :59:26.Highlands, but further north and Northern Ireland seeing good, sunny

:59:27. > :59:30.spells and in the warmest spots we could make 15 to 17 Celsius. The

:59:31. > :59:32.best of the sunshine continuing to be for England and Wales with South

:59:33. > :59:36.Wales in towards central and southern areas in the south-east

:59:37. > :59:39.seeing probably the highest temperatures, 19 or 20 Celsius and

:59:40. > :59:43.winds will be light, but cooler than that and the cloud. This evening and

:59:44. > :59:50.overnight it stays dry for most areas. You would be unlucky if you

:59:51. > :59:55.catch a light shower. Further south again, we could see a

:59:56. > :59:59.touch of frost in the Midlands and parts of central Wales under dry

:00:00. > :00:03.skies. Tuesday there, is where we start to see a change. Our area of

:00:04. > :00:07.high pressure that's we have had over the weekend gets squeezed away.

:00:08. > :00:10.This area of low pressure takes its place, but that said, for much of

:00:11. > :00:13.England and Wales, Eastern Scotland, it will be another fine day, I

:00:14. > :00:17.think, with good sunny spells and feeling warm again, but for Northern

:00:18. > :00:20.Ireland, for Western Scotland, turning wetter and windier and the

:00:21. > :00:25.rain pushing towards western Britain later on in the day. Temperatures

:00:26. > :00:29.mid-teens Celsius in the north and 17 to 20 Celsius across the South

:00:30. > :00:32.East. Wednesday we have an area of low pressure on top of us. It looks

:00:33. > :00:36.cloudy and messy. For England and Wales we could see a spell of heavy

:00:37. > :00:40.and thundery rain. There will be sunshine and showers and some could

:00:41. > :00:45.be heavy. Winds gusty as well across the South Coast, but a mild feel to

:00:46. > :00:49.things, 14 Celsius to 16 Celsius. So it becomes more unsettled as the

:00:50. > :00:53.week continues. Certainly after Tuesday with spells of rain, some of

:00:54. > :00:58.it heavy, windy at times too, but the days will be mild and gardeners

:00:59. > :01:00.will be happy to know at night it will be turning milder SWthat's your

:01:01. > :01:04.latest weather. It is land, it is ten o'clock. -- it

:01:05. > :01:16.is Monday. Welcome to the programme

:01:17. > :01:20.if you've just joined us. Coming up before 11am: Children

:01:21. > :01:23.as young as six are being called witches by their own families

:01:24. > :01:25.and enduring exorcisms to dispel We will hear from victims

:01:26. > :01:35.who were subjected Anything that goes wrong in that

:01:36. > :01:40.family, I was the responsibility for it. It wasn't just a general life

:01:41. > :01:43.problem. It was based on I am doing it.

:01:44. > :01:47.Why so many people who suspect they have dementia are put off

:01:48. > :01:50.from seeing their GP because a diagnosis will mean

:01:51. > :01:57.We will hear from one mother who was terrified of the diagnosis.

:01:58. > :02:00.Will there be European success for Roy Hodgson's men in France?

:02:01. > :02:02.He'll announce his provisional Euro squad in about an hour's time.

:02:03. > :02:09.We'll bring you the latest live from Wembley.

:02:10. > :02:18.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:19. > :02:20.Migrant arrivals to Greece have dropped to a trickle,

:02:21. > :02:23.because of the deal between the EU and Turkey which discourages asylum

:02:24. > :02:27.But tens of thousands of people are still stranded in Greece

:02:28. > :02:30.hoping to get to other parts of the continent.

:02:31. > :02:38.Our correspondent Yogita Limaye is on the Greek-Macedonian border.

:02:39. > :02:43.The government has said that they will have facilities ready for about

:02:44. > :02:47.11,000 people, which should take pretty much all of the population

:02:48. > :02:53.here. That should be ready in a few weeks. However, that is not a

:02:54. > :02:57.permanent solution. It is a temporary one. Most of these people

:02:58. > :03:02.don't want to stay in Greece. They want to go to other countries in

:03:03. > :03:06.Europe. I asked a spokesman for the Greek government what the plan was

:03:07. > :03:10.and he says the EU has pledged to relocate 66,000 people that are in

:03:11. > :03:16.Greece, but it is a process that is taking a very long time.

:03:17. > :03:19.A full inquiry into how a fake bomb used in a training exercise came

:03:20. > :03:21.to be left at Manchester United's stadium is being demanded

:03:22. > :03:23.by the city's Mayor and Police and Crime Commissioner.

:03:24. > :03:27.Tens of thousands of fans had to be evacuated from Old Trafford

:03:28. > :03:30.yesterday, shortly before United's game against Bournemouth.

:03:31. > :03:32.There's a warning that safety in prisons in England and Wales has

:03:33. > :03:36.deteriorated rapidly in the past year.

:03:37. > :03:39.MPs say they're concerned about a soaring rise in suicides,

:03:40. > :03:45.attacks on staff, and serious assaults in the last 12 months.

:03:46. > :03:47.The Justice Committee said that improvement was urgently needed.

:03:48. > :03:52.Ministers say that improvements are being made.

:03:53. > :04:02.One former prisoner told this programme that serious and violent

:04:03. > :04:05.situations can arise very quickly. It can change from quite a smooth

:04:06. > :04:13.running atmosphere to a very volatile and violent atmosphere. It

:04:14. > :04:21.could be for a number of reasons. Drugs. Interaction with an officer.

:04:22. > :04:26.Someone doesn't feel they are being listened to maybe.

:04:27. > :04:28.Donald Trump has said he doesn't expect to have a good relationship

:04:29. > :04:31.with David Cameron if he becomes President of the United States.

:04:32. > :04:33.In December, Mr Cameron called Mr Trump divisive,

:04:34. > :04:36.stupid, and wrong for saying he'd put a temporary ban

:04:37. > :04:44.Mr Trump said he would remember what was said.

:04:45. > :04:48.Natalie Bennett is to step down as the leader of the Green Party.

:04:49. > :04:50.She has announced she won't stand for re-election after her second

:04:51. > :04:52.two-year spell comes to an end in August.

:04:53. > :04:55.The Australian former journalist told The Guardian newspaper

:04:56. > :04:58.that she got some things wrong because she isn't what she calls

:04:59. > :05:02.a smooth, spin-trained, lifelong politician.

:05:03. > :05:06.Dame Helen Mirren, Kylie Minogue, and Ant and Dec have joined forces

:05:07. > :05:08.to help celebrate the Queen's 90th birthday in a pageant

:05:09. > :05:11.Her Majesty arrived for the celebration

:05:12. > :05:16.in the Diamond Jubilee State Coach with the Duke of Edinburgh.

:05:17. > :05:20.She was met by the Prince of Wales before taking her seat for the show.

:05:21. > :05:24.Nearly a thousand military and civilian horses,

:05:25. > :05:27.some from as far away as Azerbaijan, featured with some performing stunts

:05:28. > :05:33.while another carried a happy birthday banner.

:05:34. > :05:41.I don't know how it carried it but it did! Presumably in its mouth?

:05:42. > :05:43.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:05:44. > :05:50.Thank you. Sport in just a moment but here are some of your comments

:05:51. > :05:54.on our exclusive film on witchcraft in the UK this morning. Children as

:05:55. > :05:58.young as six being accused of being witches by their own parents and

:05:59. > :06:04.then being subjected to horrific abuse. Tim tweets this. That proves

:06:05. > :06:10.the ignorance of religion. These faith leaders are egocentric

:06:11. > :06:15.bullies. The pastors are abusers, dangerous religious extremists that

:06:16. > :06:21.should be deported from the UK to protect vulnerable people. What I

:06:22. > :06:26.find spectacularly disturbing was that by day this man was a

:06:27. > :06:29.practising pharmacist, a respected profession, and by night somebody

:06:30. > :06:34.judgmental and potentially abusing children. This is not in the name of

:06:35. > :06:39.religion. An email from Sally. I am transgender and aged 42. In 1999I

:06:40. > :06:43.underwent an exorcism at the hands of the Pentecostal church because

:06:44. > :06:47.they believed my body was being inhabited by a female demon. While

:06:48. > :06:53.it was all talk, this could seriously have caused me a lot of

:06:54. > :06:57.mental harm. And a tweet from Mark. This item on witchcraft affecting

:06:58. > :07:01.children have to get a much more raised profile among the media.

:07:02. > :07:03.Thank you for those. Keep them coming in.

:07:04. > :07:06.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:07:07. > :07:08.Use the hashtag VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:07:09. > :07:19.James on the England squad, and England supporter. Wayne Rooney is

:07:20. > :07:25.the hardest working player and if you just want prima donnas, leave

:07:26. > :07:30.him at home. And Marcus Rashford is under 21 and we have a side for

:07:31. > :07:34.under 21s for him. This morning, Jessica.

:07:35. > :07:36.The record books have been rewritten in Formula One

:07:37. > :07:39.He's become the youngest driver to win a Grand Prix,

:07:40. > :07:43.Verstappen started the race at the Spanish Grand Prix in fourth

:07:44. > :07:45.but took advantage after this crash between Mercedes teammates

:07:46. > :07:49.Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg on the opening lap.

:07:50. > :07:50.Even more remarkable, it was Verstappen's debut race

:07:51. > :07:52.for Red Bull after only being promoted to

:07:53. > :08:05.It feels amazing. I can't believe it. It was a great race. I have to

:08:06. > :08:09.say thank you to the team for giving me such a great car. To win

:08:10. > :08:17.straightaway in the first race, amazing feeling. Exciting times for

:08:18. > :08:21.Max Verstappen and his dad, who we just saw. I feel like this will be

:08:22. > :08:22.the first of many podium finishes for the driver. Here is a bit more

:08:23. > :09:28.about him. A week before the French Open,

:09:29. > :09:30.and on his 29th birthday, Andy Murray chalked up a big win

:09:31. > :09:33.over his rival Novak Djokovic The first time Murray has beaten

:09:34. > :09:45.Djokovic in their past 14 meetings. World Number One Serena Williams

:09:46. > :09:52.is back to winning ways. She secured the women's

:09:53. > :09:54.title in Rome. She beat compatriot Madison Keys

:09:55. > :09:58.in straight sets for her first individual 10m European championship

:09:59. > :10:05.gold of his career with a stunning performance at the Aquatics

:10:06. > :10:09.Championships in London. His medal adds to the mixed 3m

:10:10. > :10:12.synchronised gold and men's 10m synchro silver he won

:10:13. > :10:16.in the past week. Yesterday there also

:10:17. > :10:20.were silver medals for Rebecca Gallantree and Alicia Blagg

:10:21. > :10:28.in the synchronised 3m springboard. Plenty of football over the next

:10:29. > :10:31.hour with the England squad being announced this morning but I will

:10:32. > :10:39.see you later for the headlines. Thank you. Good morning.

:10:40. > :10:40.It seems extraordinary that anyone in this country...

:10:41. > :10:47.Sorry, please bear with me while we wait for that. It seems

:10:48. > :10:48.extraordinary that anybody in this country could believe in witchcraft

:10:49. > :10:53.but some do. Not only that,

:10:54. > :10:55.they on occasion accuse their own Yes, kids really

:10:56. > :10:57.are being exorcised. Experts say it's abuse and say

:10:58. > :11:01.they fear children in the UK are being subjected to horrific

:11:02. > :11:02.treatment during exorcisms, like having chilli rubbed

:11:03. > :11:04.into their eyes or genitals, and sometimes it can

:11:05. > :11:08.end in a child's death. Last year the Metropolitan Police

:11:09. > :11:11.dealt with 60 cases, an increase of over 50% compared

:11:12. > :11:15.with 3 years earlier. In a moment we'll talk live

:11:16. > :11:20.to a woman who as a little girl was accused of being a witch

:11:21. > :11:22.by her wider family. First our reporter Noel Philips

:11:23. > :11:24.is the first journalist to be given exclusive access to social workers

:11:25. > :11:28.in Tower Hamlets in London as they discuss the case of one 6

:11:29. > :11:32.year old girl whose parents believed His film contains some

:11:33. > :11:35.disturbing images and lasts I give you order,

:11:36. > :11:42.in the name of Jesus. This is Doctor Charles Motondo

:11:43. > :11:44.in South Africa, carrying out A deliverance ceremony on a young

:11:45. > :11:49.girl he believes is a witch. He runs the Grace Faith Ministries

:11:50. > :11:52.in Leeds, and travels The extended family of both mum

:11:53. > :12:02.and dad have a belief system that the victim in this case

:12:03. > :12:04.was actually spiritually It's a practice which according

:12:05. > :12:09.to social workers here in Tower Hamlets is now common

:12:10. > :12:12.in certain communities The cases are on the increase,

:12:13. > :12:16.because, as I said, when one case is highlighted,

:12:17. > :12:20.people's eyes are opened. It is not an issue, in my view,

:12:21. > :12:24.that we can sit back and say When he was just eight Mardoche

:12:25. > :12:29.claims he was accused He came to London from the Congo

:12:30. > :12:35.to live with his extended family. He says they accused him of eating

:12:36. > :12:38.human flesh and killing his own mum, In that time, anything goes wrong

:12:39. > :12:43.in that family, I was Like, just general life,

:12:44. > :12:58.but it was based on me doing it. Mardoche, who is now 24,

:12:59. > :13:01.says his extended family made plans to send him back to the Congo

:13:02. > :13:03.for an exorcism in 2005, as it was the only way

:13:04. > :13:07.they thought he could be cured, but his school alerted social

:13:08. > :13:09.workers at Islington Council, who he claims were considering going

:13:10. > :13:17.along with their wishes. I want to know how my life

:13:18. > :13:21.would be now, I don't know. I don't think I would be here,

:13:22. > :13:24.but I don't know, to be honest. But the idea that they were

:13:25. > :13:27.actually considering it... Islington Council told us social

:13:28. > :13:32.workers acted swiftly to remove Mardoche from his extended family,

:13:33. > :13:35.and would never support a child being sent for a deliverance

:13:36. > :13:40.ceremony of this kind. According to this expert,

:13:41. > :13:44.who recently studied more than 30 cases involving witchcraft reported

:13:45. > :13:47.to the Metropolitan Police, not enough is being done

:13:48. > :13:51.to tackle the problems. I would like to enable children

:13:52. > :13:57.to report it themselves. A well-funded helpline,

:13:58. > :13:59.which they could access The Government say it's unacceptable

:14:00. > :14:10.and no belief system can justify the abuse of a child,

:14:11. > :14:16.but campaigners insist more needs to be done to tackle the problem

:14:17. > :14:20.before it becomes more widespread. If you want to share that film,

:14:21. > :14:28.please go to our programme page. She was branded a witch

:14:29. > :14:33.and abused as a child. Also here, Yasmin Rehman,

:14:34. > :14:36.formerly in the Metropolitan Police and now

:14:37. > :14:39.a human rights activist. And Oladapo Awosokanre,

:14:40. > :14:41.from the charity Africans United Against Child Abuse that supports

:14:42. > :14:50.victims of witchcraft accusations. Welcome to all of you and thank you

:14:51. > :14:57.for coming on the programme. Kevani, tell me what happened to you as a

:14:58. > :15:05.six-year-old. I was accused of being a wit and this stemmed from me

:15:06. > :15:11.wetting my bed. I was branded as a witch and tutor that there was a lot

:15:12. > :15:14.of child abuse involved in that. -- due to that. The difference between

:15:15. > :15:19.me and a lot of the cases we have heard about that recently, there was

:15:20. > :15:23.not much around deliverance is, it was more about branding children and

:15:24. > :15:27.accusing them of witchcraft. Now there has been a big shift where

:15:28. > :15:29.more churches are involved that are apparently delivering these children

:15:30. > :15:41.from evil possession. You think it is a sham. It is a

:15:42. > :15:45.sham. I go to church. I have two children and I don't have an issue

:15:46. > :15:51.with people's belief, my issue is, according to the Bible, there is no

:15:52. > :15:56.were in the Bible where it says in order to deliver somebody of

:15:57. > :16:00.spiritual possession you have to put pepper or ginger or horrific

:16:01. > :16:04.substances in their eyes or in certain other areas that, you know,

:16:05. > :16:08.you couldn't imagine. What happened to just laying your hands on

:16:09. > :16:12.somebody and just praying for them? When did it become somebody's job to

:16:13. > :16:16.decide that all children were witches. When I was younger from

:16:17. > :16:19.what I remember, it was the older generation, when you were old and

:16:20. > :16:25.you were frail and you had grey hair, you were seen as a witch.

:16:26. > :16:31.Whereas now, it has shifted from the older generation to specifically

:16:32. > :16:36.children. You mentioned pepper being rubbed

:16:37. > :16:38.into eyes and other parts of your body, is that something that

:16:39. > :16:43.happened to you? It is something that happened to me. It is horrific

:16:44. > :16:48.and it is horrendous and it shouldn't be allowed. Accusing any

:16:49. > :16:55.child of being a witch is nonsense and attempt to go deliver them

:16:56. > :16:59.through usage whether it is pepper or starvation is abuse. Was food

:17:00. > :17:03.withdrawn from you? Yes, it was withdrawn. I remember all I could

:17:04. > :17:06.take was two slices of bred and they would mark it where the last slice

:17:07. > :17:09.was taken. In the night-time if I felt hungry and went and got another

:17:10. > :17:14.one, I would be beaten in the morning because they would know I

:17:15. > :17:19.took that extra slice of bread. And actions like that, once again, was

:17:20. > :17:22.you're a witch, but I was just a child who was starving and was

:17:23. > :17:28.deprived of basic food. I think a lot needs to be done to stop all

:17:29. > :17:32.what is going on. I mean, I know that the Metropolitan Police have

:17:33. > :17:35.got project Vio let, things are moving more than what they were

:17:36. > :17:42.when, you know, when I was branded a witch. I had an incident where the

:17:43. > :17:45.police were called and I was sent right back home. When I tried to

:17:46. > :17:48.explain to the officers what was happening, I think, they couldn't

:17:49. > :17:53.accept that anybody could do such a sing to a child so therefore, I was

:17:54. > :17:59.handed right back to the people who claimed to be, you know related to

:18:00. > :18:08.me and there weren't. Let me bring from Yasmin. You are a former

:18:09. > :18:12.metropolitan officer. In terms of the police, there wouldn't be any

:18:13. > :18:15.cultural sensitivities about getting involved when a child is clearly

:18:16. > :18:24.being abused or neglected? I wasn't a police officer. I was a member of

:18:25. > :18:30.civil staff and I was engaged with Project Vio let. We are talking

:18:31. > :18:36.about children, but there are also adults who are getting involved in

:18:37. > :18:42.different contexts as victims too. I think the Criminal Justice System

:18:43. > :18:47.can only go so far. This has to be a multi-fas FA setted response. It has

:18:48. > :18:50.got to involve service providers from a range of backgrounds. There

:18:51. > :18:53.has been guidance and training for police officers, but I think we have

:18:54. > :18:59.got to accept that services are challenged. We have got a constantly

:19:00. > :19:03.changing demographics and new issues coming to the fore and police

:19:04. > :19:06.officers, social workers, teachers, etcetera have got to be ahead of the

:19:07. > :19:09.curve in order to try and... Your charity trains and works with social

:19:10. > :19:14.workers, teachers, other professionals. What practical

:19:15. > :19:18.skills, do they need any other practical skills apart from the ones

:19:19. > :19:23.they will have in order to spot children who are being accused of

:19:24. > :19:28.being a witch and being abused? Yes, there is a need for them to have

:19:29. > :19:36.specialist training. That's why we have special training. We give to

:19:37. > :19:40.practitioners. What does it involve? Witchcraft and also training for

:19:41. > :19:44.practitioners in understanding African families and how to

:19:45. > :19:49.intervene and when to inver convenient. Isn't it obvious when to

:19:50. > :19:59.intervene when the child is being starved or abused in the way that

:20:00. > :20:03.was explained? Often times seen within the narrow categories of

:20:04. > :20:08.abuse which is emotional or physical abuse. However, there is a need for

:20:09. > :20:12.them to understand the cultural aspect of this and also what

:20:13. > :20:18.witchcraft means and how it is done for them to be able to investigate

:20:19. > :20:26.further to know what exactly is the issue with the child. Just not

:20:27. > :20:31.leaving it at the level of emotional or physical abuse. Do you agree that

:20:32. > :20:35.professionals need to be trained in what witchcraft is? At the moment we

:20:36. > :20:40.have lack of understanding where it stems from and I think you hit it on

:20:41. > :20:43.the nail that within certain departments, there is still that

:20:44. > :20:47.fear we don't want it to come across as if we are specifically picking on

:20:48. > :20:51.certain communities or certain religious beliefs and it shouldn't

:20:52. > :20:56.be like that. If a child is being abused regardless of their colour or

:20:57. > :21:00.gender, the first thing, it is a child protection issue and it is

:21:01. > :21:03.about safeguarding that child regardless of the culture they come

:21:04. > :21:06.from. Why do professionals need training about witchcraft? Because

:21:07. > :21:12.it will help them, you think, identify children at risk? Yes. The

:21:13. > :21:17.general training practitioners have just gives them a general view, but

:21:18. > :21:21.they need towned stand the specifics, how abuse is perpetrated

:21:22. > :21:30.and how victims could be identified easily. I want to ask all of you,

:21:31. > :21:37.female again tale mutilation is against the law. There is a law that

:21:38. > :21:44.criminal isz it. Would it be wise to do the same with witchcraft? Yes. We

:21:45. > :21:50.have been advocating for a number of years now. There is a national

:21:51. > :22:01.working group on abuse relate to go faith and belief which had an action

:22:02. > :22:05.plan. However, it has its own specific category. We shouldn't just

:22:06. > :22:08.put it within the normal abuse category. You would like to see

:22:09. > :22:12.legislation, would you? I would like to see legislation. The difference

:22:13. > :22:15.is people forget child abuse, there is different forms of abuse and

:22:16. > :22:21.accusing a child of witchcraft is a different type of abuse. OK. So

:22:22. > :22:25.actually... It is very much... Forget the abuse which there is

:22:26. > :22:28.legislation which prohibits that obviously which is a criminal

:22:29. > :22:32.offence, but accusing a child of witchcraft should be a criminal

:22:33. > :22:35.offence? Yes. Having the child, if you were a child and every day I

:22:36. > :22:38.told you that you were a witch, that's psychological abuse and

:22:39. > :22:44.unfortunately, at the moment, there is no enough being done to help

:22:45. > :22:50.survivors. So one of the things that I have been campaigning and I'm

:22:51. > :22:54.starting a project doing, where we can help survivors in and out of

:22:55. > :22:57.care. We speak about training and frontline staff, but no one speaks

:22:58. > :23:00.about the survivors, what support is put in place to support them and

:23:01. > :23:04.what justice they can get? At the moment, there is very, very little

:23:05. > :23:08.cases where people have been brought to justice for abusing children or

:23:09. > :23:12.even pastors, so something has to be done. Yes, I want to ask you about

:23:13. > :23:17.pastors and Faith Leaders in a second. Yasmin, you were hesitant

:23:18. > :23:22.when I said should there be legislation crim nationalingising

:23:23. > :23:27.witchcraft or accusing somebody being a witch, why? We have seen a

:23:28. > :23:32.rush to legislate for everything and there maybe a place for some

:23:33. > :23:43.legislation, but I think labelling children as a witch is one

:23:44. > :23:46.manifestation of spirits. You have got community members who are

:23:47. > :23:53.witnessing things. You have got a lot happening behind closed doors.

:23:54. > :23:56.There has been a lot of work done on this. A Stobbart Report going back

:23:57. > :24:01.to 2006... Why don't you think it should be criminalised? There was a

:24:02. > :24:05.load of recommendations including having a helpline and working with

:24:06. > :24:09.survivors to whaer what it is that survivors think would help and I

:24:10. > :24:14.have not heard anyone say legislation would help. Apart from

:24:15. > :24:18.this young woman here? My work is with south Asians and people of

:24:19. > :24:22.Middle Eastern origin and North African origin. What they are saying

:24:23. > :24:28.to me is better understanding of some of the issues so when they come

:24:29. > :24:31.forward and say I am being told I am being possessed or someone cast an

:24:32. > :24:35.evil eye on me and this is why I have this illness or behaving in

:24:36. > :24:40.this way, that there is an understanding and you are not told

:24:41. > :24:45.it is ridiculous and to go away. But if there was legislation... We have

:24:46. > :24:50.had legislation for FGM and we are still awaiting a conviction. The

:24:51. > :24:55.criminal outcome arresting the pastors isn't the end of T there is

:24:56. > :24:59.ongoing support for survivors and their families. We have to get into

:25:00. > :25:04.the communities and work within them. Which kind of communities are

:25:05. > :25:09.we talking about? We are talking about all communities. Not all

:25:10. > :25:14.communities, are we? There is the African community and the Muslim

:25:15. > :25:24.community and the 1.6 billion Muslims. The church of England has

:25:25. > :25:27.exorcists in every diocese. Looking at the roles that religion play in

:25:28. > :25:32.term of working with vulnerable people, and where that can spill

:25:33. > :25:38.over into exploitation and to serious criminal offences, whether

:25:39. > :25:45.it is exploiting people for money or culminating in murder which it sadly

:25:46. > :25:49.does. I still think we should put a legislation out simply because there

:25:50. > :25:53.has to be an example and at the moment, it is widely done. You can

:25:54. > :25:57.walk down certain streets and go to certain churches and you can hear

:25:58. > :26:00.the pastor preaching about a child or somebody is a witch, that's why

:26:01. > :26:03.your life is not going correct until they realise that we are serious

:26:04. > :26:07.about this, it is not going to stopl. Anybody can go and open up a

:26:08. > :26:11.church. There is nothing that protects the children who attend the

:26:12. > :26:14.churches to make sure that regardless of what you're preaching,

:26:15. > :26:19.there is no deliverance happening that is abusive to these children

:26:20. > :26:24.and as I've said, I do believe, we should start legislations and I

:26:25. > :26:28.think more projects need to be put out there to ensure that survivors

:26:29. > :26:31.are supported and communities are supported and teachers, social

:26:32. > :26:33.workers, lawyers, immigration, frontline staff need to have a

:26:34. > :26:37.better understanding because they are the people who work with these

:26:38. > :26:41.children on a regular, I think one of the biggest upsets for me is

:26:42. > :26:45.there was so many opportunities for people to save me, but because there

:26:46. > :26:49.was a lack of understanding and a lack of knowledge, I slipped through

:26:50. > :26:52.the net and that's what is happening on a day-to-day basis. What happened

:26:53. > :26:56.to you? The fact that people got away with what they got away with

:26:57. > :27:00.and the fact that the school wasn't sure how to go about it and at that

:27:01. > :27:05.time, children themselves had very little voice than what they have

:27:06. > :27:09.now. So I do believe that everybody from doctors, to schools, teachers,

:27:10. > :27:13.and children should be taught at school that actually branding

:27:14. > :27:18.children or branding anybody in a negative way is wrong.

:27:19. > :27:23.I mentioned the that the Metropolitan Police last year had

:27:24. > :27:26.dealt with 60 cases. It is a very small number of cases when you

:27:27. > :27:35.compare it to other things, but the number of cases has gone up from

:27:36. > :27:41.2013/2014, I'm just trying to get a sense of how much of a problem it is

:27:42. > :27:45.in Britain. It is a huge problem. Is it huge? It is a huge problem. It is

:27:46. > :27:48.just that it is under cover. We haven't even scratched the surface

:27:49. > :27:55.of the issue when it comes to branding... It is a considerable

:27:56. > :27:58.number and it is growing. Apart from the issue of legislation, we believe

:27:59. > :28:01.there is need to work with communities and work with Faith

:28:02. > :28:04.Leaders and that's what we have been doing over the years. We have been

:28:05. > :28:11.able to go into the community and train a lot of Faith Leaders, I

:28:12. > :28:15.trained 5,000 and also trained 1,000 practitioners for them to be able

:28:16. > :28:24.towned stand what this type of abuse is for them to know what to do and

:28:25. > :28:31.how to report and also I have helped victims of such abuse. If you pick

:28:32. > :28:35.up a copy of the Moattry which is free, there are classifieds for

:28:36. > :28:38.various faith healers who in return for money will help you find work

:28:39. > :28:47.and help you solve your marriage problems. We have channels beamed

:28:48. > :28:51.into people's homes channel from America or auth Asian channels which

:28:52. > :28:56.is saying to people, call n we will give you a tal lisman or for a fee,

:28:57. > :28:59.we will do this, we will do that, we will tell you how to get rid of the

:29:00. > :29:03.demons in your house that are leading to your difficulties. Thank

:29:04. > :29:10.you very much. Thank you for talking so openly as well.

:29:11. > :29:13.Maureen tweets this, "These poor children. It is just awful abuse.

:29:14. > :29:18.Social services have to watch out for this." Sarah says, "Your piece

:29:19. > :29:22.on witchcraft just shows how belief can influence and affect lives.

:29:23. > :29:28.These children need support and resources." LJ says, "It is a great

:29:29. > :29:35.piece on witchcraft on your programme. Thank you Thank you for

:29:36. > :29:39.bringing these issues to the fore." Lynn, "This hideous practise of

:29:40. > :29:43.accusing children of being witches has got to stop. The police sud have

:29:44. > :29:48.a no tolerance policy." A Government spokesman said,

:29:49. > :29:49."Nothing is more important No belief system can justify

:29:50. > :29:53.the abuse of a child. Those responsible for child abuse

:29:54. > :29:57.linked to faith or belief would be prosecuted under the same

:29:58. > :30:00.legislation as anyone abusing or Our statutory guidance is crystal

:30:01. > :30:03.clear that anyone who has concerns about a child's welfare should

:30:04. > :30:06.report this to children's social We've also had a statement

:30:07. > :30:11.through from the Met Police. It says, "Abuse linked to belief

:30:12. > :30:14.is a horrific crime which is condemned by people of all cultures,

:30:15. > :30:17.communities and faiths. Families or carers genuinely believe

:30:18. > :30:19.that the victim has been completely taken over by the devil or an evil

:30:20. > :30:22.spirit which is often supported by someone who within the community

:30:23. > :30:25.has portrayed themselves Regardless of the beliefs

:30:26. > :30:29.of the abusers, child abuse Our role is to safeguard children,

:30:30. > :30:34.not challenge beliefs. We investigate crimes

:30:35. > :30:36.against children, but our main aim is to prevent abuse

:30:37. > :30:44.in the first place." Still to come, Roy Hodgson is set

:30:45. > :30:54.to announce his provisional England We will look at the new type of

:30:55. > :30:58.living space which will help those stuck in generation rent. Why so

:30:59. > :31:02.many people who suspect they have dementia delay visiting their GP

:31:03. > :31:07.because a diagnosis they think will mean their life is over. We will

:31:08. > :31:08.hear about one mother who was terrified at discovering her

:31:09. > :31:13.diagnosis. With the news, here's Joanna

:31:14. > :31:16.in the BBC Newsroom Migrant arrivals to Greece have

:31:17. > :31:18.dropped to a trickle because of the deal between the EU

:31:19. > :31:20.and Turkey which discourages asylum But tens of thousands of people

:31:21. > :31:25.are still stranded in Greece hoping to get to other parts

:31:26. > :31:28.of the continent. The Greek administration has said it

:31:29. > :31:35.needs other EU governments to help. A full inquiry into how a fake bomb

:31:36. > :31:37.used in a training exercise came to be left at Manchester United's

:31:38. > :31:40.stadium is being demanded by the city's mayor and Police

:31:41. > :31:42.and Crime Commissioner. Tens of thousands of fans had to be

:31:43. > :31:47.evacuated from Old Trafford yesterday, shortly before United's

:31:48. > :31:53.game against Bournemouth. Child welfare experts are warning

:31:54. > :31:57.about children being subjected to horrific treatment because their

:31:58. > :32:11.families believe they are witches. Campaigners say it results

:32:12. > :32:14.in children being exorcised in order Last year the Metropolitan Police

:32:15. > :32:21.dealt with 60 cases, an increase of over 50% compared with

:32:22. > :32:23.three years earlier. There are fears cases involving

:32:24. > :32:25.witchcraft are not being Anything goes wrong in that family,

:32:26. > :32:30.I was the responsibility for it. So it wasn't anything about, like,

:32:31. > :32:34.genuine life problems. There's a warning that safety

:32:35. > :32:43.in prisons in England and Wales has deteriorated rapidly

:32:44. > :32:45.in the past year. MPs say they're concerned

:32:46. > :32:48.about a soaring rise in suicides, attacks on staff, and serious

:32:49. > :32:51.assaults in the last 12 months. The Justice Committee said that

:32:52. > :32:55.improvement was urgently needed. Ministers say that

:32:56. > :33:07.improvements are being made. The Chancellor, George Osborne, is

:33:08. > :33:10.giving a speech about the dangers of leaving the EU, and he has teamed up

:33:11. > :33:16.with the Liberal Democrats and Labour to show a united front. The

:33:17. > :33:19.unlikely trio were introduced by Ryanair's Michael O'Leary at

:33:20. > :33:25.Stansted Airport. Ed Balls, Vince Cable and I are from different

:33:26. > :33:28.political parties. We fought each other at the last general election

:33:29. > :33:33.with different economic argument and we have clashed repeatedly in the

:33:34. > :33:37.House of Commons over the years. But there is one thing we all agree on.

:33:38. > :33:44.And that is that it would be a huge mistake for Britain to leave the EU

:33:45. > :33:47.and to leave the single market. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and

:33:48. > :33:51.Prince Harry have arrived at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park the

:33:52. > :33:56.launch of their Heads Together campaign which is aiming to break

:33:57. > :34:03.the stigma of mental health and illness. They want men to talk more

:34:04. > :34:06.openly to reduce the number of men who take their own lives. Kate

:34:07. > :34:10.already works with children's charities and Prince Harry will help

:34:11. > :34:13.highlight the need to help army veterans.

:34:14. > :34:15.University tuition fees in England are likely to rise for students

:34:16. > :34:19.Under plans expected to be revealed by the Government today,

:34:20. > :34:21.universities will face greater scrutiny of the quality

:34:22. > :34:24.It will also become easier to open new universities.

:34:25. > :34:27.But Labour has warned there aren't enough controls to stop too

:34:28. > :34:36.Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.

:34:37. > :34:42.Max Verstappen becomes the youngest winner of a Formula One race,

:34:43. > :34:46.after an impressive performance at the Spanish Grand Prix.

:34:47. > :34:48.He was 18 years and 228 days old when he won yesterday

:34:49. > :34:53.Manchester City have all but secured their place

:34:54. > :35:00.They drew 1-1 at Swansea and will finish fourth unless,

:35:01. > :35:03.Manchester United thrash Bournemouth by 19 goals tomorrow.

:35:04. > :35:08.Not a bad birthday present for Andy Murray.

:35:09. > :35:11.He won the Italian Open in Rome as he turned 29,

:35:12. > :35:13.against world number one Novak Djokovic.

:35:14. > :35:18.So he's looking in great form ahead of the French Open next week.

:35:19. > :35:21.And Tom Daley capped off a brilliant week to become diving's

:35:22. > :35:27.He'd already won the 3m synchronised title and a silver

:35:28. > :35:37.Now he is European champion for the ten metres individual.

:35:38. > :35:51.I will have more on the BBC Sport website throughout the morning. Roy

:35:52. > :35:58.Hodgson will be announcing his squad for the Euros at 11 o'clock. Danny

:35:59. > :36:02.Welbeck's had to pull out with a knee injury which could open up a

:36:03. > :36:06.space for Marcus Rashford. Let's go live to Wembley now. What are the

:36:07. > :36:12.issues that Roy Hodgson will be grappling with full you can see the

:36:13. > :36:19.media presents building behind me now because we are waiting on the

:36:20. > :36:23.words of Roy Hodgson. Marcus Rashford could be there in a

:36:24. > :36:28.training capacity, as we saw with John Stones Anna Flanagan before the

:36:29. > :36:33.2014 World Cup. And the Danny Welbeck issue. His injury was part

:36:34. > :36:37.of the reason why he had delayed naming the squad until today. It was

:36:38. > :36:41.meant to be named on Thursday of last week. Andros Townsend might

:36:42. > :36:45.come in, the Newcastle winger, who has come into form despite

:36:46. > :36:49.Newcastle's relegation. There will be speculation about Theo Walcott,

:36:50. > :36:53.the Arsenal forward who has not been in great form. He has not had many

:36:54. > :36:57.opportunities of late and has a hamstring injury that will rule him

:36:58. > :37:02.out for ten days or so, so presumably he wouldn't be available

:37:03. > :37:12.for Sunday's first warm up match in Turkey. Jordan Henderson, he came in

:37:13. > :37:18.as a substitute for Liverpool yesterday against West Brom. There

:37:19. > :37:22.is a plethora of attacking options but defensively could be where the

:37:23. > :37:25.concern is. The squad will be released at 11 o'clock by the

:37:26. > :37:27.Football Association and then we will hear from Roy Hodgson. Thank

:37:28. > :37:33.you. People who suspect they have

:37:34. > :37:36.dementia are too frightened to go to the doctor because they think

:37:37. > :37:38.a dementia diagnosis A poll for the Alzheimer's Society

:37:39. > :37:42.found over half of GPs had diagnosed people who'd experienced

:37:43. > :37:44.the symptoms for many months Dementia is the most feared

:37:45. > :37:50.health condition in the UK but the society is urging people

:37:51. > :37:54.to confront the condition head on. If treated earlier, patients tend

:37:55. > :37:57.to live well for longer. Let's speak to Joy Watson,

:37:58. > :38:02.who has dementia. And Christina Macdonald,

:38:03. > :38:04.whose mother was so scared of the diagnosis, she refused

:38:05. > :38:18.to believe she had the illness. Welcome to all of you and thank you

:38:19. > :38:23.for coming on the programme. Joey, thank you for coming on the

:38:24. > :38:29.programme. How are you? I am OK, thank you. Very busy. Good. You are

:38:30. > :38:34.diagnosed with early onset dementia after six years of being unsure what

:38:35. > :38:38.your symptoms meant, I think. What were the signs that meant you

:38:39. > :38:42.thought things were not quite right? I think it started off with me being

:38:43. > :38:48.clumsy. That is what I put it down to. I would bump into things and

:38:49. > :38:56.drop things. Then my eyesight suddenly deteriorated. I was told it

:38:57. > :39:01.was put down to stress or depression or even the menopause. When you were

:39:02. > :39:10.given the Alzheimer's diagnosis, how did you react? I was obviously

:39:11. > :39:16.devastated. I had a good idea of what could be ahead because I have

:39:17. > :39:19.nursed people with dementia. The first two month I just spent on the

:39:20. > :39:24.sofa feeling sorry for myself and suicidal. Then I realised there was

:39:25. > :39:35.more to life than dementia and this could be a new journey for me. As

:39:36. > :39:39.you say, your job was as a private carer for people with outsiders.

:39:40. > :39:43.That meant you knew exactly what it entails, but do you think that put

:39:44. > :39:50.you off getting a diagnosis? Were you afraid to go and see medical

:39:51. > :39:54.professionals about yourself? I guess I was putting it on the back

:39:55. > :40:01.burner and hoping that it wasn't dementia. So in that respect, I

:40:02. > :40:05.buried my head in the sand. But at the same time, I really needed to

:40:06. > :40:12.know why I was behaving the way I was and why I was struggling with

:40:13. > :40:15.certain issues. I am just going to bring in Christina, who is sitting

:40:16. > :40:20.alongside me in the studio. Bear with me for one second. Tell us

:40:21. > :40:26.about your mother and how afraid she was of dementia. She just wouldn't

:40:27. > :40:29.accept that anything was wrong, which was the biggest problem that

:40:30. > :40:33.we had. Her memory started to let her down and she had trouble

:40:34. > :40:40.recalling things, conversations that we had had five or ten minutes

:40:41. > :40:44.before. She put it down to memory, you know, her memory not being very

:40:45. > :40:48.good because she was getting older. She refused to see the GP and

:40:49. > :40:52.refused to admit other than memory not being quite as good as it was

:40:53. > :40:58.that anything was wrong. Refused for how long to see the GP? A good year

:40:59. > :41:03.or so. She would never have agreed to go and see the GP about concerns

:41:04. > :41:10.about her memory. We only got to to the GP because she developed a water

:41:11. > :41:20.infection and I managed to throw it into the GP that memory wasn't good

:41:21. > :41:23.while we were there. When she was diagnosed, could she accepted? She

:41:24. > :41:31.couldn't understand it. I don't think she understood what it meant.

:41:32. > :41:34.The irony is, but I think every case is unique and everybody is an

:41:35. > :41:39.individual and that is important to say, but within a day or so of going

:41:40. > :41:45.to the GP she didn't remember the visit or the conversation and

:41:46. > :41:49.therefore the diagnosis. And how has she been since diagnosis and what

:41:50. > :41:53.have you put in place to support her? It has been a long journey and

:41:54. > :41:59.she was diagnosed officially in 2009 and he probably had it for a couple

:42:00. > :42:02.of years before that. For me it has been a massive learning curve. She

:42:03. > :42:05.lived on her own for a couple of years and wanted to stay as

:42:06. > :42:10.independent as long as possible. For me, I needed to get as much advice

:42:11. > :42:14.and support as I could to put the steps in place to get the care that

:42:15. > :42:19.she needed. I went to the outside is shown in London which is coming

:42:20. > :42:26.again on the 10th and 11th of June this year. -- Alzheimer's show. I

:42:27. > :42:30.spoke to experts, about navigating the system, how to get help, which

:42:31. > :42:35.is what I think people struggle with. We cannot do it on our own. I

:42:36. > :42:40.was working full-time and she didn't live locally to me so it was obvious

:42:41. > :42:44.that we needed help. How do you access that support? It is important

:42:45. > :42:52.to spend time looking into that and doing your research. As a GP, as

:42:53. > :42:56.Christina says, everybody is different, so as a GP, how do people

:42:57. > :43:00.usually react when they are diagnosed with dementia? Of course

:43:01. > :43:06.there is a lot of fear and worry and anxiety about what the future will

:43:07. > :43:11.hold. I think it is very important to get that diagnosis early. That is

:43:12. > :43:14.what we are trying to get out there. If there are symptoms of memory loss

:43:15. > :43:19.and brain function impairment of sorts, then you really need to get

:43:20. > :43:22.diagnosed and seen quickly. In some cases there may be treatments

:43:23. > :43:28.available that can slow down progression. You might get help,

:43:29. > :43:31.physiotherapy, psychological therapy, these things that can

:43:32. > :43:37.assist with your day-to-day living, for example. Unfortunately, because

:43:38. > :43:44.we very often see patients quite late on, things have progressed

:43:45. > :43:50.quite fast, quite far, so we are not living things in the bud earlier,

:43:51. > :43:53.which is a real worry for us. Your message today is that you may not

:43:54. > :43:59.want to but it will benefit you if you confronted early on and get to

:44:00. > :44:04.the GP? Yes. It is very difficult and there are lots of unknowns out

:44:05. > :44:08.there when you this diagnosis, but when you have the information, as we

:44:09. > :44:11.were discussing earlier, when you are armed with the information, you

:44:12. > :44:15.can make decisions at a time when you are still able to make the

:44:16. > :44:22.decisions about your future care, things like lasting power of

:44:23. > :44:27.attorney. It is so depressing! It is very difficult but it is easier to

:44:28. > :44:32.make those decisions now. I patients always tell me they don't want to be

:44:33. > :44:34.a burden on their family. I think it gives them some relief to have

:44:35. > :44:39.things in place earlier which can gives them some relief to have

:44:40. > :44:45.helped with an earlier diagnosis. Yes. This research comes down to

:44:46. > :44:50.people not wanting to hear the truth because that would mean their life

:44:51. > :44:55.is over. You mentioned that you were in depression and you felt suicidal

:44:56. > :45:01.for a couple of months. Do you feel your life is over now you have had

:45:02. > :45:06.this diagnosis? No, not now. I think it was the initial shock of getting

:45:07. > :45:11.a diagnosis. With me being so young. I was only 49 when my symptoms

:45:12. > :45:15.started. Once I realised that it was the beginning of a new journey, not

:45:16. > :45:22.the end of my life, that I could still do things, all the things that

:45:23. > :45:28.I enjoy doing. OK, so I need support and I need other people around me,

:45:29. > :45:35.but I try to do almost all the things that I used to do. What would

:45:36. > :45:41.you say to somebody who is watching who might be having the symptoms

:45:42. > :45:47.that you described earlier? Memory loss, perhaps clumsiness, or the

:45:48. > :45:49.relative of somebody showing those symptoms. What would you say to

:45:50. > :45:55.them? multi-facetted I would say go and

:45:56. > :46:00.check it out. There are so many other things it could be just p tout

:46:01. > :46:05.to one side that fear TV being dementia. Even if you get a

:46:06. > :46:11.diagnosis to realise that you can live well with dementia. OK, so I

:46:12. > :46:19.understand that further down the line things are not that easy, but

:46:20. > :46:25.to just find things like myself, I have managed to get myself a little

:46:26. > :46:29.job. Now when I first had to give up my nursing career I thought, you

:46:30. > :46:33.know, this is the end, I'll never work again, but that's not

:46:34. > :46:41.necessarily the case. I went out there and found this little job

:46:42. > :46:46.working with Age UK that is promoting awareness and just helping

:46:47. > :46:50.other people really. Thank you very much, Joy. Thank you for coming on

:46:51. > :46:57.the programme. I appreciate your time. I wish you all the best as

:46:58. > :47:01.well. Joy Watson who was diagnosed with early onset dementia at the age

:47:02. > :47:04.of 49 as you heard her say. Christina, thank you very much for

:47:05. > :47:13.telling us about your mum and thank you from the GP's prospective.

:47:14. > :47:16.Could a new type of living space in North London be the answer

:47:17. > :47:19.to those stuck in so-called generation rent, unable to afford

:47:20. > :47:22.Property prices continue to climb, going up 8.6% in the year

:47:23. > :47:25.to the end of January, according to the Office for National

:47:26. > :47:28.That puts the average house price at ?292,000.

:47:29. > :47:30.But by combining small bedrooms and communal living areas including

:47:31. > :47:33.a spa, restaurant and games room, with most bills included

:47:34. > :47:37.in the rental price, is a co-living environment a good

:47:38. > :47:40.deal or just another way to exploit people trying to get a foot

:47:41. > :53:35.In the next 10 minutes or so the England football squad

:53:36. > :53:37.for the European Championships is going to be announced.

:53:38. > :53:40.Manager Roy Hodgson is set to tell the assembled press

:53:41. > :53:42.at Wembley Stadium which 23 players will be making the short flight

:53:43. > :53:45.Wales and Northern Ireland are due to announce their

:53:46. > :53:48.Let's speak to former England international Gary Mabbutt

:53:49. > :53:55.Welcome both of you. Right, shall we talk about strikers first of all,

:53:56. > :53:58.Gary. Who would you ib taking. Who should Roy Hodgson be taking? Good

:53:59. > :54:04.morning, Victoria. It is always a pleasure to join you. Striker wise,

:54:05. > :54:07.I think Jamie Vardy and Harry Kane have to be thereafter the seasons

:54:08. > :54:10.they had. Sturridge will probably join them and Wayne Rooney. There is

:54:11. > :54:14.a lot of debate about Wayne Rooney, but I have always been a big

:54:15. > :54:18.supporter and his experience, the respect that he has with the whole

:54:19. > :54:26.squad, he will be on the squad list. Yeah. Should he start the first

:54:27. > :54:29.game? I have known Roy for over 35 years and knowing Roy he goes with

:54:30. > :54:34.players who are in form and of course, at the moment, Jamie Vardy

:54:35. > :54:39.and Harry Kane are the two players in form. I would start with those

:54:40. > :54:43.two, but as I say, in a competition situation, there will always be

:54:44. > :54:49.injuries, suspensions, so there will be plenty of places for other

:54:50. > :54:54.places. In Roy Hodgson always go for players in form, why is he taking

:54:55. > :54:58.Jack Wilshere? You have to have creativity and players who can

:54:59. > :55:01.create something out of nothing. A player that can, when the game is

:55:02. > :55:05.going against you, you don't deserve to win it. A player who can turn the

:55:06. > :55:11.game on its head and win it for you. Jack Wilshere has that ability and

:55:12. > :55:15.he is giving players like Wilshere and Henderson and Stirling a chance

:55:16. > :55:18.to prove their fitness and he is fair and reasonable is Roy and he

:55:19. > :55:22.will give players every opportunity to prove to him that they are

:55:23. > :55:26.available and fit. Rachel, as a football agent, who do you think he

:55:27. > :55:32.should be taking? Well, there are so many that he should be taking. He is

:55:33. > :55:37.so lucky this time because there is an enormous amount of players.

:55:38. > :55:41.Predecessors didn't always have that advantage. I would like to see him

:55:42. > :55:49.take, I'm biassed, I would like to see him take Noble. I don't think

:55:50. > :55:57.Mark Noble will be in that squad. It is a great point that Rachel raises,

:55:58. > :56:03.why not Mark Noble? Mark Noble is creative in mid-field, leave Jack

:56:04. > :56:07.Wilshere at home. He is a risk. In the mid-field you have Barkley,

:56:08. > :56:11.Lallana and Wilshere, players like that. Sew has to make decisions. He

:56:12. > :56:14.will give every player a fair opportunity, but Roy will have gone

:56:15. > :56:18.through every single permutation in his squad and he will put down the

:56:19. > :56:22.players he believes are the best to get the performance that he

:56:23. > :56:28.requires. Do you represent Mark Noble? No, I don't. I think he is an

:56:29. > :56:34.amazing player who can play in different positions. Do you want

:56:35. > :56:38.Andy Carroll to be in the scaud? Yes, in the squad for sure because

:56:39. > :56:43.it is such, or potentially such a young squad, it would be nice to

:56:44. > :56:48.have a few older heads there which is why I agree that Wayne Rooney

:56:49. > :56:53.should be first on the team sheet. What about Marcus rash ford? He is a

:56:54. > :56:57.proper adult, he is 18. Should he be in the squad? Age shouldn't have

:56:58. > :57:05.anything to do with it. His ability is amazing. He will just go crazy as

:57:06. > :57:09.far as his, wanting to show his ability. You need a balance of

:57:10. > :57:13.established players and players that nobody really know what is they are

:57:14. > :57:21.going to do on the day, hopefully only good stuff, but you never know.

:57:22. > :57:26.Gary, where are you on Marcus Rashford? I think Marcus has got

:57:27. > :57:29.fantastic potential. He will be an England regular in the future, but I

:57:30. > :57:34.think this maybe a tournament too early for him. Looking at the

:57:35. > :57:37.players that Roy has got to choose from, I think Marcus will be joining

:57:38. > :57:41.the squad for the pre-tournament training, but I don't think he will

:57:42. > :57:44.be in the final squad. Not this time, but certainly, he has got a

:57:45. > :57:48.great future in front of him. We have got seconds. How far will

:57:49. > :57:54.England go, Gary and then Rachel? If we can get the same team spirit and

:57:55. > :57:59.same Work ethic we showed against Germany, it could be an exciting

:58:00. > :58:07.summer for England fans. He has not answered the questions. Very well.

:58:08. > :58:13.The tournament? Why not? Somebody has got to win. We have this on

:58:14. > :58:17.tape! Thank you very much Gary, thank you Rachel.

:58:18. > :58:19.The announcement is in two minutes here live on BBC News. Have a good

:58:20. > :58:32.day. Joanna is next. This could be the game

:58:33. > :58:36.of the season. There's going to be fireworks.

:58:37. > :58:38.'A repeat of the 1990 final.' What do you mean,

:58:39. > :58:41.we're going to out-play him, cocker? It's going to be tight. It's got

:58:42. > :58:47.penalties written all over it.