25/05/2016

:00:00. > :00:13.A crisis facing our steel industry: hundreds of steelworkers march

:00:14. > :00:21.on London as the Business Secretary arrives in Mumbai to press

:00:22. > :00:24.They moved to Scotland from Australia five years ago.

:00:25. > :00:27.Now they face deportation in six days time.

:00:28. > :00:30.We'll talk to the Brain family about why they think

:00:31. > :00:36.He was once one of the biggest stars on US television but now Bill Cosby

:00:37. > :00:41.He denies any wrongdoing but one alleged victim

:00:42. > :00:57.Many years, most of us thought we were the only one. And we didn't

:00:58. > :01:09.realise that we had been victimised by a serial predator.

:01:10. > :01:12.Our top story today, a vote to leave the European Union

:01:13. > :01:15.would hurt the public finances and potentially add up to two

:01:16. > :01:19.years to the Government's austerity programme.

:01:20. > :01:21.That's according to a new report from the Institute

:01:22. > :01:28.The research organisation says that leaving the EU could mean lower

:01:29. > :01:31.economic growth and a drop in tax receipts and this would wipe out

:01:32. > :01:35.But Leave campaigners say a vote for Brexit could offer

:01:36. > :01:40.Our Economics Correspondent, Andy Verity, reports.

:01:41. > :01:43.Less than a month away from the referendum,

:01:44. > :01:46.what is the economic case for leaving the European Union?

:01:47. > :01:49.The Leave campaign points to savings of ?350 million a week

:01:50. > :01:54.The independent Institute for Fiscal Studies says that's wrong.

:01:55. > :01:57.If you account for rebates and subsidies to UK farmers,

:01:58. > :02:07.That adds up to ?8 billion a year, which may seem like a large sum,

:02:08. > :02:10.but if Brexit caused the economy to be just 0.6% smaller four years

:02:11. > :02:13.from now, there would be less tax coming in, wiping out that saving.

:02:14. > :02:19.And most forecasts predict the damage to the economy

:02:20. > :02:22.at least three times as big - 2% to 4%.

:02:23. > :02:25.The immediate effect of leaving the EU is that we would be sending

:02:26. > :02:28.?8 billion a year less to the rest of the European Union.

:02:29. > :02:32.That would improve the public finances, but more likely than not,

:02:33. > :02:37.the economy would shrink relative to what it would otherwise would be

:02:38. > :02:40.and the public finance hit in the short run in the next four

:02:41. > :02:44.or five years would be in the range to ?20 billion to ?40 billion.

:02:45. > :02:47.That's money that would have to be added to borrowing,

:02:48. > :02:50.according to the IFS report, meaning there would have to be one

:02:51. > :02:54.or two extra years of austerity to balance the budget.

:02:55. > :02:56.One of the relatively few economists backing Vote leave

:02:57. > :03:02.We come out with a positive, these other studies all come

:03:03. > :03:06.The reason is that they assume we don't go to free trade

:03:07. > :03:10.after Brexit, we keep being protectionist and they assume

:03:11. > :03:13.it because some obscure reason that they think that voters wouldn't

:03:14. > :03:18.That's a political judgement which is not for economists to make.

:03:19. > :03:21.The damage to the public finances would probably be far less,

:03:22. > :03:26.It is even less than has been caused by the Government's

:03:27. > :03:34.Whether it's a price worth paying is for voters to decide.

:03:35. > :03:39.Let's get more from our Political Guru, Norman Smith.

:03:40. > :03:45.Norman, what does this mean for the Brexit camp? This is a pretty

:03:46. > :03:48.bruising blow, I think, for the Brexit camp, not because of what the

:03:49. > :03:54.institute is saying about the consequences of Brexit in terms of

:03:55. > :03:57.maybe two years more austerity, but because it is the Institute for

:03:58. > :04:04.Fiscal Studies who are saying it. They matter in a way no other

:04:05. > :04:07.economic forecaster matters. Their reports are the Holy Grail of

:04:08. > :04:11.economic forecasting. They are the people we turn to when we're looking

:04:12. > :04:15.for someone to analyse the Government's budget. It is

:04:16. > :04:20.frequently very, very critical of the Government. So when they say

:04:21. > :04:25.there would be a hit from Brexit, it really matters and I suspect that

:04:26. > :04:30.the Leave campaign may have scored a bit of an own-goal because this

:04:31. > :04:36.morning they've launched a scathing attack on the institute suggesting

:04:37. > :04:38.that they are prop beganists for the European Commission because they

:04:39. > :04:42.receive grants from the European Commission and they say if we pulled

:04:43. > :04:50.out of the EU well, the institute would be short of about ?800,000. I

:04:51. > :04:54.think the danger is that risks backfiring because certainly at

:04:55. > :04:59.Westminster the Institute for Fiscal Studies are viewed as the ultimate

:05:00. > :05:00.economic forecaster. What they say really matters.

:05:01. > :05:04.Thank you, Norman. Norman will be back with us later

:05:05. > :05:08.to help us make sense of some of the arguments around sovereignty

:05:09. > :05:11.ahead of the referendum vote in just Annita is in the BBC

:05:12. > :05:14.Newsroom with a summary Hundreds of steelworkers

:05:15. > :05:23.are expected to march through Central London today,

:05:24. > :05:25.to highlight the crisis facing The protest comes as the future

:05:26. > :05:31.of Tata Steel's British operation is discussed at the company's

:05:32. > :05:34.board meeting in Mumbai. The Business Secretary

:05:35. > :05:36.and the First Minister of Wales have travelled to India to hold

:05:37. > :05:38.talks with bosses. In March, the company

:05:39. > :05:54.announced plans to sell We will be talking to steel workers

:05:55. > :05:55.taking part in the march and a representative from UK steel in 15

:05:56. > :05:58.minutes time. A new group led by a former boss

:05:59. > :06:02.of Mothercare is thought to be The Richess Group is being

:06:03. > :06:05.led by Greg Tufnell, the brother of former England

:06:06. > :06:09.cricketer Phil Tufnell. Other bidders including

:06:10. > :06:11.the founder of Matalan, are understood to have fallen out

:06:12. > :06:13.of the running. Sources close to the process say

:06:14. > :06:16.that if no buyer is found by Friday, BHS is likely to be liquidated,

:06:17. > :06:19.putting the retailer's Profit for the past year

:06:20. > :06:40.at Marks and Spencer has The retailer says that future

:06:41. > :06:41.profits will be hit. The new Chief Executive said he intends to cut

:06:42. > :06:45.prices and put more staff in stores. The high street has become more

:06:46. > :06:47.competitive and the market Consumer confidence is down a margin

:06:48. > :06:54.over the past few months. I believe we are putting in place

:06:55. > :06:57.a series of plans that will recover The story of M is one of self-help

:06:58. > :07:09.and that's what the team The Italian coastguard says it

:07:10. > :07:14.rescued 3,000 people yesterday as they tried to cross to Europe

:07:15. > :07:16.from North Africa. The migrants were plucked from small

:07:17. > :07:19.boats off the coast of Libya, in 23 separate operations,

:07:20. > :07:21.involving every multi-national More than 2,500 were

:07:22. > :07:25.rescued the day before. Nearly three-quarters of the care

:07:26. > :07:28.homes in England rated as inadequate by the Care Quality Commission,

:07:29. > :07:30.have now improved. The watchdog says its tougher

:07:31. > :07:32.inspection regime is Care providers warn that will only

:07:33. > :07:38.continue if funding is improved. The Government says it

:07:39. > :07:40.has made ?3.5 billion Here's our Social Affairs

:07:41. > :07:46.Correspondent, Alison Holt. Care that is kind and provides

:07:47. > :07:50.support, tailored to the needs of each person is at the heart

:07:51. > :07:54.of the what the Care Quality Commission is looking for when it

:07:55. > :07:56.inspects homes as part Most homes in England

:07:57. > :08:02.are providing care rated as good, The first time the CQC has analysed

:08:03. > :08:09.what happens after a home is told Over 18 months, 372 homes in England

:08:10. > :08:15.were rated as inadequate. When inspectors returned

:08:16. > :08:17.three-quarters had 99 were still failing and 34 had

:08:18. > :08:25.gone out of business. I think that these are really

:08:26. > :08:27.encouraging results. They demonstrate that people can

:08:28. > :08:30.make the improvements that we're requiring,

:08:31. > :08:33.but I'm not complacent and I don't think care homes should

:08:34. > :08:36.be complacent either. Care home owners welcome

:08:37. > :08:41.the results, but warn that the squeeze on fees paid

:08:42. > :08:44.by local authorities who buy most social care means that many homes

:08:45. > :08:53.are struggling simply to survive. and I'm really concerned

:08:54. > :09:03.that we are going to see a lot The Government has said

:09:04. > :09:06.it is putting more money into social care and the CQC

:09:07. > :09:09.maintains its findings show despite the pressure on the sector,

:09:10. > :09:17.standards are being pushed up. There's been a sharp drop

:09:18. > :09:25.in antibiotics being prescribed NHS figures for the year

:09:26. > :09:29.to May show there were 2.6 million fewer prescriptions

:09:30. > :09:34.than in the previous 12 months. warned that, by 2050,

:09:35. > :09:36.superbugs could kill one person every three seconds worldwide

:09:37. > :09:40.unless action was taken. Actor and comedian Bill Cosby is to

:09:41. > :09:43.stand trial in the United States over allegations that he drugged

:09:44. > :09:46.and sexually assaulted More than 50 women have publicly

:09:47. > :10:07.accused Mr Cosby of Afternoon an alleged perpetrator

:10:08. > :10:13.does not give a statement to the police. He did. And now he is going

:10:14. > :10:16.to have to deal with his own words which, it was indicated from

:10:17. > :10:18.testimony that he signed his statement.

:10:19. > :10:21.And we will be talking to one of Bill Cosby's alleged

:10:22. > :10:27.Russian media are reporting the country's athletes could be

:10:28. > :10:34.stripped of up to nine medals from the Beijing Olympics,

:10:35. > :10:37.after 14 people were found to have cheated at the 2008 games.

:10:38. > :10:39.The International Olympic Committee said re-tests of samples were found

:10:40. > :10:42.It could mean British athletes are awarded medals retrospectively.

:10:43. > :10:44.Russia is currently banned from international athletic

:10:45. > :10:47.competitions and a decision on its Rio Games place will be

:10:48. > :10:55.Now, we've tended to see robots as a bit of a threat particularly

:10:56. > :11:02.to jobs as they become capable of more and more tasks.

:11:03. > :11:05.But at Europe's biggest robotics event all the talk

:11:06. > :11:08.The idea is that collaborative robots will work with humans

:11:09. > :11:15.Our technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones reports from Paris.

:11:16. > :11:18.In Paris this week, you can meet all kinds of robots.

:11:19. > :11:24.This one is more practical, cleaning your barbecue grill.

:11:25. > :11:27.And this Russian robot can recognise you and have a slightly

:11:28. > :11:31.Do you like a bottle of wine of an evening,

:11:32. > :11:37.For decades, industrial robots have been doing all kinds

:11:38. > :11:41.of repetitive tasks, and they're getting better at them.

:11:42. > :11:45.Robots have, of course, been in factories for years.

:11:46. > :11:48.But they are locked away, seen as dangerous, a threat

:11:49. > :11:51.The new emphasis here, though, is on collaborative robots,

:11:52. > :11:54.ones you can work alongside and see almost as a workmate -

:11:55. > :12:03.They're out of cages and they are here to help

:12:04. > :12:07.As well as collaborative robots, there are devices to

:12:08. > :12:11.Wearing this, a road repair worker becomes Iron Man.

:12:12. > :12:20.The other big idea is that friendly robots could perform

:12:21. > :12:22.all sorts of service jobs, from giving train information

:12:23. > :12:24.to teaching fitness routines to elderly people.

:12:25. > :12:26.Paris is nice around this time of year.

:12:27. > :12:28.Pepper, already on sale in Japan, is coming to Europe,

:12:29. > :12:30.where a range of companies believe the public want to

:12:31. > :12:41.You're not talking to a simple, stupid machine, you're talking

:12:42. > :12:45.The robots are getting ever better at learning human tasks,

:12:46. > :12:47.but the people building them say we've got to start seeing them

:12:48. > :12:54.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:12:55. > :13:04.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:13:05. > :13:07.Use the hashtag Victoria live and If you text, you will be charged

:13:08. > :13:21.Russian media are reporting their country's athletes could be

:13:22. > :13:24.stripped of up to nine medals from the 2008 Beijing Olympics,

:13:25. > :13:26.that's after retests of drugs samples found positive results

:13:27. > :13:30.Russia is currently banned from international athletic

:13:31. > :13:32.competitions, a decision on whether its athletes can

:13:33. > :13:40.participate at the Rio Games this summer will be made next month.

:13:41. > :13:42.One British competitor from the Beijing Olympics says

:13:43. > :13:44.the sport's authorities should be praised for the actions

:13:45. > :13:48.There have been some brave people, some whistleblowers

:13:49. > :13:51.who started the ball rolling and some great journalists.

:13:52. > :13:54.People like the IOC and IAAF and WADA have got their act

:13:55. > :13:56.into gear and it's brilliant they have gone back

:13:57. > :14:08.If I come back with a medal I will be very thankful for it.

:14:09. > :14:11.Andy Murray is back in action today at the French Open tennis,

:14:12. > :14:14.taking on Mathias Bourgue in the second round.

:14:15. > :14:17.The world number two had a real battle to get

:14:18. > :14:21.through his opening match, coming back from two sets down

:14:22. > :14:23.to beat the oldest man in the draw, 37-year-old Radek Stepanek.

:14:24. > :14:26.Murray going through in five sets to set up a tie

:14:27. > :14:37.It wasn't a brilliant day for the British women.

:14:38. > :14:39.Johanna Konta is out of the tournament after

:14:40. > :14:41.a straight sets defeat against Germany's Yulia Goerges.

:14:42. > :14:43.Laura Robson also knocked out, losing to 2014

:14:44. > :14:47.Heather Watson is first up against Svetlana Kuznetsova.

:14:48. > :14:49.Jose Mourinho's representatives will continue talks with

:14:50. > :14:55.The former Chelsea boss is expected to be confirmed as the next United

:14:56. > :15:00.His agent Jorge Mendes met with the club's

:15:01. > :15:02.Executive Vice Chairman Ed Woodward yesterday following Louis Van Gaal's

:15:03. > :15:06.Striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic is widely anticipated to be

:15:07. > :15:11.Meanwhile former Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti says it will be good

:15:12. > :15:16.to have the Special One back in the Premier League.

:15:17. > :15:23.Everyone knows him, he knows really well the Premier League.

:15:24. > :15:27.I think it would be a fantastic signing for Manchester United

:15:28. > :15:31.to improve and to be better than the last two years.

:15:32. > :15:34.England and Wales fans will be subject to a 24 hour alcohol ban

:15:35. > :15:38.on the streets of Lens when the two teams meet there in the group

:15:39. > :15:45.Every match in the northern French city will see a 6am alcohol ban

:15:46. > :15:48.on the day of the match until 6am the following day.

:15:49. > :15:50.It's intended to stop the city becoming overwhelmed

:15:51. > :15:57.Scotland's Kim Little has been voted the BBC

:15:58. > :16:03.The Seattle Reign player topped a supporters' poll to become

:16:04. > :16:05.the second winner of the BBC World Service award.

:16:06. > :16:07.The midfielder has made 115 appearances for Scotland,

:16:08. > :16:17.England all rounder Ben Stokes says he's "devastated" to miss the rest

:16:18. > :16:20.of the series against Sri Lanka after having knee surgery yesterday.

:16:21. > :16:22.Stokes picked up the injury during in the First

:16:23. > :16:26.The ECB hasn't given a timescale on his return.

:16:27. > :16:29.Warwickshire's Chris Woakes has been called up as his replacement.

:16:30. > :16:31.The Second Test against Sri Lanka starts on Friday

:16:32. > :16:43.Steel, I will see you just after half 9. Thanks.

:16:44. > :16:44.Hundreds of steelworkers are expected to march

:16:45. > :16:46.through Central London today, to highlight the crisis facing

:16:47. > :16:50.The protest comes as the future of Tata Steel's British operation

:16:51. > :16:54.is discussed at the company's board meeting in Mumbai.

:16:55. > :16:56.In March, the company announced plans to sell

:16:57. > :17:02.The Business Secretary Sajid Javed has travelled to India

:17:03. > :17:11.He tweeted that "Several credible bidders are in play".

:17:12. > :17:14.In a moment we'll talk to some workers on their way to London,

:17:15. > :17:24.but first here's a look back at the trouble Tata Steel has faced.

:17:25. > :17:26.ended at the steelworks owned by the Thai company SSI

:17:27. > :17:32.One of the main reasons blamed for the closure was cheap

:17:33. > :17:37.It also later emerged that workers' pension payments had been

:17:38. > :17:40.Local workers criticised the Government for not stepping

:17:41. > :17:49.In March this year, the Indian company Tata Steel announced plans

:17:50. > :17:51.to sell its UK business, putting thousands more UK

:17:52. > :17:59.They include 4000 at Port Talbot, its largest steel-making plant.

:18:00. > :18:01.Its European holding company was told to explore all options

:18:02. > :18:03.for restructuring and the UK Government has been working

:18:04. > :18:10.on a plan to sell Tata's assets as a going concern.

:18:11. > :18:12.At the time, Business Secretary Sajid Javid said several options

:18:13. > :18:23.because I think everyone would want a long-term, viable solution.

:18:24. > :18:26.If you look around Europe and elsewhere, I don't think

:18:27. > :18:46.renationalisation is really the answer.

:18:47. > :18:50.The future of around 11,000 remaining Tata employees

:18:51. > :18:57.to save the business expected to be announced later today.

:18:58. > :19:02.But these workers at Port Talbot are positive about the future.

:19:03. > :19:04.Obviously there's lots of speculation, this,

:19:05. > :19:09.We try and block that out, come to work and do what we can

:19:10. > :19:13.Our customers, our product range and what we can do

:19:14. > :19:18.So, we've got the capability, we just need...

:19:19. > :19:39.Hundreds of steel workers are planning to march today. Our

:19:40. > :19:44.correspondent is in Wales. The workers are hoping there is

:19:45. > :19:48.long-term reprieve, how do you assess the situation? I think it has

:19:49. > :19:54.been a very mixed period for the people living here. They have been

:19:55. > :19:58.angry with the government that they didn't step in sooner when the

:19:59. > :20:01.discussion of nationalisation was first discussed, they were thinking

:20:02. > :20:05.that must be the way forward, because they have taken so long to

:20:06. > :20:09.help them, this would be the only way they could be saved. But then

:20:10. > :20:13.Sajid Javid said 25% could be given from the Government. That has drawn

:20:14. > :20:20.in some potential interest from buyers. Now, I think the feeling is

:20:21. > :20:31.that they do have a potential positive outlook. Seven buyers have

:20:32. > :20:35.been mentioned. There is Liberty Steel and the management buy-out

:20:36. > :20:40.group. They feel that is their preferred option, because they will

:20:41. > :20:44.keep the blast furnace and that is the soul of Port Talbot, that is

:20:45. > :21:02.about creating steel. For them that is the way forward. Thank you. We

:21:03. > :21:09.are going to be talking to John Park, and we are joined by Alan

:21:10. > :21:17.Coombes who works at Port Talbot, he is joining us from the bus head fog

:21:18. > :21:21.that rally and Brian Dennis join us from Middlesbrough and he lost his

:21:22. > :21:27.job when the SSI works closed in Redcar. Alan, you're on the bus, how

:21:28. > :21:30.are you feeling heading for this march, knowing that the future of

:21:31. > :21:37.the steel works is hanging in the balance? Yes, there is a lot of

:21:38. > :21:42.anticipation, the guys are all going up to London, meeting up with

:21:43. > :21:46.everyone else from the UK to have a march on Parliament and we are

:21:47. > :21:51.anxious to hear what Tata will be announcing today. There is a bit

:21:52. > :21:55.more light at the end of the tunnel than a month ago. So I'm feeling

:21:56. > :22:00.more positive. What is the mood on the bus today? Everybody's still

:22:01. > :22:06.apprehensive. We still want to know what is going to happen about the

:22:07. > :22:10.buyers and who will be Tata's preferred buyer. But there is more

:22:11. > :22:17.enthusiasm and positivity than a month ago. Obviously, you are coming

:22:18. > :22:21.here on the day that Sajid Javid is in Mumbai. He says he will do

:22:22. > :22:27.everything that he can to make sure that Tata will be a responsible

:22:28. > :22:32.Searl. Do you feel the government is doing everything it can? I think it

:22:33. > :22:37.needs to do more about an industrial strategy. Any buyer would have to

:22:38. > :22:40.have the support of an industrial strategy to make the business

:22:41. > :22:45.viable. I think the Government's still got a big part to play,

:22:46. > :22:51.although they are stepping up to the mark, they still to do more. John,

:22:52. > :22:56.you're representing workers with the union, do you believe the Government

:22:57. > :23:06.is doing everything it can? We have moved them in the right direction,

:23:07. > :23:08.there is no doubt. That has been the union working with the industry.

:23:09. > :23:12.There is more they can do. You have seen the distance we have travelled

:23:13. > :23:16.over the last six to nine months, the thought you have a Conservative

:23:17. > :23:23.Government now prepared to take a stake and provide some loan options

:23:24. > :23:27.for a potential buyer is a huge step for any government, but for a

:23:28. > :23:30.Conservative Government in particular. What do you think has

:23:31. > :23:35.got the situation to this point. It didn't happen with Redcar. What is

:23:36. > :23:39.different? I think unfortunately thousands of people lost their job

:23:40. > :23:43.in Redcar and the Government regret not stepping in earlier. There has

:23:44. > :23:48.been a lot of political pressure, I think the main thing is people

:23:49. > :23:55.recognise it is not just about the steel communities that rely on the

:23:56. > :24:00.steelworks, if we don't have a steel industry, other manufacturing

:24:01. > :24:05.industries would be under threat. Gareth, the picture has changed to

:24:06. > :24:08.be in the situation where there are seven bids on the table. Are you

:24:09. > :24:16.surprised that there are that many in the frame? I am pleased that

:24:17. > :24:23.there are that many, the business they're looking to buy is not an

:24:24. > :24:26.inefficient business. The reason we are in the crisis we are in is

:24:27. > :24:32.because of Government policy piling on costs that we face that our

:24:33. > :24:37.competitors don't face, but it is the tsunami, the flood of Chinese

:24:38. > :24:40.steel that is flooding global markets and making our position

:24:41. > :24:45.uncompetitive. It ills not free trade here we are looking at from

:24:46. > :24:51.China, it is unfair trade, they're selling into the market below market

:24:52. > :24:56.prices and breaking what is normally a very healthy global competitive

:24:57. > :25:01.steel market. Brutally if Chinese steel is available much more cheaply

:25:02. > :25:06.than steel produced here, that filters through in terms of cheaper

:25:07. > :25:13.production costs for other companies and leads to cheaper products. Why

:25:14. > :25:17.is British Steel so important if it is much more expensive? Two points.

:25:18. > :25:23.One it is unfairly traded and you know it is not cheap as in good

:25:24. > :25:27.value steel, it is cheap unfairly traded steel that is here for the

:25:28. > :25:34.short-term. I don't think we will see those prices for the long-term.

:25:35. > :25:39.If we lose our steel sector, we will be beholden to global steel prices

:25:40. > :25:45.and then crucially don't, we won't have the ability for steel as a very

:25:46. > :25:50.important foundation sector, feeding into key important sectors in the UK

:25:51. > :25:56.like automotive and construction and defence. If we lose the steel

:25:57. > :26:04.sector, where does that slow burn end and where do we see the rest of

:26:05. > :26:10.the sectors going? Will we lose all those manufacturing sectors and that

:26:11. > :26:14.is why as your previous person said, was we need an industrial strategy

:26:15. > :26:19.here in the UK, something we do not have. Brian, you lost your job at

:26:20. > :26:24.Redcar, we were talking about how there wasn't the same intervention

:26:25. > :26:29.for Redcar, when you see what is going on with Tata, what do you

:26:30. > :26:35.think? I believe that we were never given a fighting chance. We asked

:26:36. > :26:40.the Government for help and the Government hid behind EU state aid

:26:41. > :26:44.rules. The same rules apply, but the Government now are willing to put

:26:45. > :26:50.their hand in their pocket and help investors. All we were asking for

:26:51. > :26:56.was that same help. Now, our furnace and our coke ovens were not

:26:57. > :27:01.moth-balled, but left to self-destruct. There is no way back

:27:02. > :27:05.for us. All because the Government wouldn't step in and offer what is

:27:06. > :27:12.on the table now. We asked for the help and it wasn't coming. For your

:27:13. > :27:17.community there, what has it meant? Well it has meant job losses. I have

:27:18. > :27:20.been lucky, I have found a job, my job is in Durham and I'm thinking

:27:21. > :27:24.now, do I move out of the area and go and live there and if I'm doing

:27:25. > :27:29.that, what happens to the other 2 and a half or three thousand people,

:27:30. > :27:34.will they move? Because there is no work on Teesside. It is decimating

:27:35. > :27:39.communities. Alan, I don't know if you could hear Brian talking about

:27:40. > :27:48.the impact on Teesside after the closure of Redcar. It is the way

:27:49. > :27:53.workers at Port Talbot were talking when the, Tata pulling out was first

:27:54. > :27:58.on the table. We were talking to workers like you with 25 years

:27:59. > :28:02.experience and families who have just known working at that

:28:03. > :28:06.steelworks. I suppose you feel sympathy for Brian and also relief

:28:07. > :28:16.in the hope that you're not facing that scenario. You're right. There

:28:17. > :28:21.Brian and his colleagues and it is heartbreaking what happened in

:28:22. > :28:24.Redcar and what happened in Ebbw Vale in the past and the people were

:28:25. > :28:29.looking at that and hoping and praying it wouldn't happen to them.

:28:30. > :28:34.Hopefully with the Government intervention, it is not going to

:28:35. > :28:37.happen to Port Talbot, it is heartbreaking what happened in

:28:38. > :28:45.Redcar and my heart goes out to the colleagues there. It is a shame that

:28:46. > :28:51.great blast fur naves is no more. -- furnace is no more. The Government

:28:52. > :28:55.were late coming to the game. Hopefully they can help Port Talbot.

:28:56. > :29:00.You spoke about the way the company and the workers are working

:29:01. > :29:04.together, at the moment, what ever happens there is not going to be a

:29:05. > :29:08.quick solution here is there. It will be a long process to turn

:29:09. > :29:14.things around? We want that process to take the time that it needs to

:29:15. > :29:19.take Maur Tata are -- sure that Tata are a responsible seller. It is

:29:20. > :29:25.important we get ourselves into a position where the trade unions work

:29:26. > :29:29.with any buyers. The industry has had to change over many years and

:29:30. > :29:35.the employees have played a key role and they have done that because

:29:36. > :29:39.they're proud of the industry and the communities they live in and

:29:40. > :29:45.they have ensured that the British economy has been built on steel. A

:29:46. > :29:54.final thought on the way Tata has handled this, it has unabled this

:29:55. > :29:59.process to -- enabled the process to unfold. Tata has shown it is a

:30:00. > :30:06.responsible employ hear the wants to see, as much as we all do, a steel

:30:07. > :30:13.sector in the UK that is sustainable and adding to the UK economy. Thank

:30:14. > :30:19.you all very much. Let us know your thoughts if you're affected by what

:30:20. > :30:20.is going on at Tata. We will keep you updated with all the

:30:21. > :30:23.developments. A young Australian boy whose first

:30:24. > :30:26.language is Gaelic faces being deported from the UK along

:30:27. > :30:29.with his parents, after the Home Confused about claim

:30:30. > :30:33.and counter-claim over what will happen if the UK votes

:30:34. > :30:36.to leave Europe? Our political guru will

:30:37. > :30:38.cut through the hype - today he's looking at the issue

:30:39. > :30:48.of sovereignty. I will be joined by two politicians

:30:49. > :31:00.for their prospectives. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:31:01. > :31:04.with a summary of today's news. A vote to leave the European Union

:31:05. > :31:07.would hurt the public finances and potentially add up to two years

:31:08. > :31:09.to the Government's austerity programme according to a new report

:31:10. > :31:12.from the Institute for Fiscal The research organisation says that

:31:13. > :31:16.leaving the EU could mean lower economic growth and a drop

:31:17. > :31:17.in tax receipts. Leave campaigners say a vote

:31:18. > :31:21.for Brexit could offer trade opportunities,

:31:22. > :31:23.but the IFS says any potential A dozen former senior military

:31:24. > :31:29.officers have spoken out about the dangers of Britain

:31:30. > :31:31.remaining in the European Union. They warn that EU law

:31:32. > :31:36.is undermining Britain's combat effectiveness and that Nato,

:31:37. > :31:38.not the EU, should remain The Remain campaign says membership

:31:39. > :31:42.of the EU and Nato Hundreds of steelworkers

:31:43. > :31:48.are expected to march through Central London today,

:31:49. > :31:50.to highlight the crisis facing The protest comes as the future

:31:51. > :31:55.of Tata Steel's British operation is discussed at the company's

:31:56. > :31:58.board meeting in Mumbai. The Business Secretary

:31:59. > :32:00.and the First Minister of Wales have travelled to India to hold

:32:01. > :32:02.talks with bosses. In March, the company

:32:03. > :32:04.announced plans to sell A new group led by a former boss

:32:05. > :32:13.of Mothercare is thought to be The Richess Group is being

:32:14. > :32:16.led by Greg Tufnell, the brother of former England

:32:17. > :32:19.cricketer Phil Tufnell. Other bidders including

:32:20. > :32:21.the founder of Matalan, are understood to have fallen out

:32:22. > :32:23.of the running. Sources close to the process say

:32:24. > :32:27.that if no buyer is found by Friday, BHS is likely to be liquidated,

:32:28. > :32:29.putting the retailer's Marks Spencer has reported a rise

:32:30. > :32:37.in underlying profits by 4.3% The retailer has said future short

:32:38. > :32:44.term profits will be hit by a revamp of its clothing and home range

:32:45. > :32:46.where sales have fallen. The new chief executive, Steve Rowe,

:32:47. > :32:49.said he intends to cut prices Nearly three-quarters of the care

:32:50. > :32:59.homes in England rated as inadequate by the Care Quality Commission,

:33:00. > :33:01.have now improved. The watchdog says its tougher

:33:02. > :33:03.inspection regime is Care providers warn that will only

:33:04. > :33:07.continue if funding is improved. The Government says it has made

:33:08. > :33:13.?3.5 billion available to councils. There has been a sharp drop

:33:14. > :33:20.in antibiotics being prescribed NHS figures for the year

:33:21. > :33:24.to May show there were 2.6 million fewer prescriptions

:33:25. > :33:26.than in the previous 12 months. Last week a major review

:33:27. > :33:31.of antibiotic resistance warned that by 2050 superbugs

:33:32. > :33:34.could kill one person every three seconds worldwide

:33:35. > :33:37.unless action was taken. That's a summary of

:33:38. > :33:43.the latest BBC News. Thank you. Let's catch up with the

:33:44. > :33:52.sport with Will. Russia could be stripped

:33:53. > :33:55.of up to nine medals from the 2008 Beijing Olympics

:33:56. > :33:57.after retests of drugs samples found positive results for 14

:33:58. > :33:59.of the country's athletes. Russia is currently

:34:00. > :34:01.banned from international A decision on whether its athletes

:34:02. > :34:05.can participate at the Rio Games We'll speak to Olympic medallist

:34:06. > :34:09.Kelly Soterton at 10am. Andy Murray is back in action

:34:10. > :34:12.today at the French Open, taking on wildcard Mathias Bourgue

:34:13. > :34:16.in the second round. The world number two battled back

:34:17. > :34:19.from two sets down yesterday to beat the oldest man in the draw,

:34:20. > :34:22.37-year-old Radek Stepanek. Kyle Edmund and Heather Watson

:34:23. > :34:28.are also both in action. Jose Mourinho is expected to be

:34:29. > :34:30.named Manchster United manager His representatives will continue

:34:31. > :34:35.talks with club officials today. Striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic is widely

:34:36. > :34:37.anticipated to be Scotland's Kim Little has been voted

:34:38. > :34:42.the BBC Women's Footballer The Seattle Reign player topped

:34:43. > :34:47.a supporters' poll to become the second winner of the BBC

:34:48. > :34:49.World Service award. The midfielder has made 115

:34:50. > :35:02.appearances for Scotland, We will see you just after 10am

:35:03. > :35:04.Joanna. See you then, thank you very much, Will.

:35:05. > :35:07.Just under a month to go and the polling booths will open

:35:08. > :35:11.But have you got a grip on the main facts of the debate?

:35:12. > :35:14.Never fear, we're here to help and our political guru Norman Smith

:35:15. > :35:17.is our guide to help us cut through some of the claims

:35:18. > :35:19.and counter claims both sides are making.

:35:20. > :35:21.This week we look at the issue of sovereignty.

:35:22. > :35:28.Let's go to Norman. Joanna, thank you very much. Well, there are big

:35:29. > :35:31.arguments in the referendum around the economy, security, immigration,

:35:32. > :35:36.but for many people there is this much more fundamental argument about

:35:37. > :35:40.sovereignty. Where does power lie? Who is actually in charge? Is

:35:41. > :35:46.authority in Brussels or is it in London? Well, here is our

:35:47. > :35:48.sovereignty see-saw with Mr Cameron at within end and Boris Johnson at

:35:49. > :35:52.the other end. Mr Cameron says at within end and Boris Johnson at

:35:53. > :35:56.have share sovereignty to have real power. You have to pool it to have

:35:57. > :35:59.real impact, not just in the European Union. He says look at

:36:00. > :36:02.Nato, we share our defence forces with other countries and that gives

:36:03. > :36:06.us more clout as a with other countries and that gives

:36:07. > :36:09.organisation. Saying politically he would say with the European Union.

:36:10. > :36:13.Secondly, if would say with the European Union.

:36:14. > :36:17.European Union then we have no say or influence on it even though we're

:36:18. > :36:22.still going to be shaped by its decisions. British companies, if

:36:23. > :36:30.they want to trade with the EU, will still have to abide by certain EU

:36:31. > :36:34.rules and regulations. Lastly, Mr Cameron says hey, we've got the best

:36:35. > :36:39.of both worlds, we are in the European Union, but we're not stuck

:36:40. > :36:44.in the single currency, we're not bound by the common immigration

:36:45. > :36:47.rules around the Schengen area. Mr Cameron's, I suppose, big pitch is,

:36:48. > :36:49.he thinks it is an illusion to think if we left the European Union,

:36:50. > :36:53.Britain would be more if we left the European Union,

:36:54. > :36:57.more independent, we would have more clout in the world. Europe would

:36:58. > :37:08.still be there. It would still influence us, but we wouldn't be

:37:09. > :37:08.able to shape it. If

:37:09. > :37:13.able to shape it. is still going to be a burj of

:37:14. > :37:16.people working out what the rules are for airlines, for routes, for

:37:17. > :37:19.passengers, what the regulations are, what the arrangements

:37:20. > :37:19.passengers, what the regulations only difference is, we won't be

:37:20. > :37:25.there. So we would only difference is, we won't be

:37:26. > :37:29.all the rules, take all the regulations, but without any say of

:37:30. > :37:34.what they are. Now that's not the act of a great, bold, big country

:37:35. > :37:38.that wants to have an influence in the world. That's cutting yourself

:37:39. > :37:51.off. You become a rule taker, not a rule maker. So what do Mr B Johnson

:37:52. > :37:54.and the Brexiters say? Mr Joern o Johnson's argument is EU law is

:37:55. > :37:58.supreme. So it doesn't really matter what the courts here decide or

:37:59. > :38:01.Parliament decides. At end of the day, those making the final decision

:38:02. > :38:05.are over there. It is day, those making the final decision

:38:06. > :38:10.Court of Justice who calls the final shots. Secondly, he says, we are

:38:11. > :38:13.always outvoted. We are the perennial losers in Europe. We

:38:14. > :38:18.always outvoted. We are the more than any other country when it

:38:19. > :38:24.comes to how the votes fall in the European Union. And lastly, he warns

:38:25. > :38:28.about the European Union superstate. That there will be more integration,

:38:29. > :38:35.more pooling of power and in other words less power here and more over

:38:36. > :38:42.there. And when Boris Johnson is out and about on the campaign trail, one

:38:43. > :38:47.of his most popular themes is to say, "Look, Europe isn't just making

:38:48. > :38:54.the big decisions, it is interfering in every little nook and cranny of

:38:55. > :38:57.our lives. It is interfering in bent bananas and hairdryers" And that

:38:58. > :39:02.goes down with the crowds when Boris Johnson is trying to get them going.

:39:03. > :39:06.Why should they tell us? Why should they tell us how powerful our vacuum

:39:07. > :39:12.cleaners should be? Why should they tell us how power our hairdryers

:39:13. > :39:16.should be? This is not a matter for an international body to dictate to

:39:17. > :39:23.the British people. We take back, if we take back control, if we take

:39:24. > :39:29.back control we will lift the burden ?600 million a week lifted off the

:39:30. > :39:32.backs of British industry and business. That's why this campaign

:39:33. > :39:37.is growing. I suppose for many people, it is the most fundamental

:39:38. > :39:41.argue: Yes, there are important ks about whether we might be better off

:39:42. > :39:46.in or out or whether we can perhaps just curb some of the migration into

:39:47. > :39:52.Europe, but for many people, the biggest factor is who is running the

:39:53. > :39:55.show? Who is in charge? Where does real power lie?

:39:56. > :39:58.Let's talk more about that. Well, we have representatives from

:39:59. > :40:00.the two official campaigns. Vote Leave's Kwasi Kwarteng

:40:01. > :40:02.Conservative MP, he wants you to vote to leave

:40:03. > :40:04.the European Union and Stronger In Britain's Chris Bryant,

:40:05. > :40:06.Shadow Leader of the House Of Commons and Labour MP,

:40:07. > :40:15.he wants you to remain in the EU. Thank you for joining us. Let's pick

:40:16. > :40:19.up on what Boris Johnson was saying right at the end of that. Why should

:40:20. > :40:24.the EU tell us how power our vacuum cleaners should be? Why should we as

:40:25. > :40:28.a member of the European Union want to step away, why would we ever want

:40:29. > :40:31.to step away from the table at which the decisions are made about

:40:32. > :40:34.standards that affect children's toy, kettles, everything. I would

:40:35. > :40:37.have thought if you are a British manufacturer of children's toys,

:40:38. > :40:42.just for instance, you would want the British Government to be sitting

:40:43. > :40:48.at the table, deciding all the rules that specify what is safe, so and as

:40:49. > :40:51.a parent you would want to make sure any children's toys that you could

:40:52. > :40:53.buy in the European Union, whether they were made in the European Union

:40:54. > :40:58.or imported into the European Union from China or anywhere else, were

:40:59. > :41:03.safe. So you see, I start from a fundamental principle which is that

:41:04. > :41:07.we achieve far more by our collective endeavour than we can

:41:08. > :41:10.possibly do by going it a loan and basically the decision here is we

:41:11. > :41:14.know there is a big table that makes big decisions in Brussels and

:41:15. > :41:18.Strasbourg and the question is whether we want to sit at that table

:41:19. > :41:27.or sit on the children's table on our own? What do you say? It is very

:41:28. > :41:32.well sitting around a table, but if we are consistently outvoted as your

:41:33. > :41:36.report said... What being decided doesn't get swept away if the UK

:41:37. > :41:39.isn't at the table, does it? The rules on vacuum cleaners would still

:41:40. > :41:43.apply if British companies wanted to trade in Europe for instance. That's

:41:44. > :41:47.the point of the negotiation. The point about sovereignty, it is

:41:48. > :41:56.absolute. You're saying that under the legislation that the House of

:41:57. > :41:59.Commons passed, we are subordinating British primary legislation to

:42:00. > :42:05.applicable EU law. And that's why it is such a huge deal. What we're

:42:06. > :42:09.saying is if we leave the EU, we can actually have a sovereign Parliament

:42:10. > :42:14.where we make our own decisions. That's the point you see, no, we

:42:15. > :42:18.wouldn't. No, we would no more than we are at the moment. There are

:42:19. > :42:22.loads of laws which we write now. We are about to do a new Adoption Bill.

:42:23. > :42:27.We don't have to refer that to the EU. There are lots of EU laws that I

:42:28. > :42:31.applicable. Yes, but the benefit for us is that we get to magnify our

:42:32. > :42:36.voice. You see, there is one so-called fact that has been put out

:42:37. > :42:40.by the Leave campaign which is untrue I'm afraid. Is that we lose

:42:41. > :42:44.all the time. We win 92% of the time. We lose more than any other

:42:45. > :42:50.country. You say that the UK wins 92% of the time. Yes. How do you

:42:51. > :42:57.have such a different statistic? You say 0% of the time. You say 92% of

:42:58. > :43:01.the time? Most legislation is contested. When there is a divide

:43:02. > :43:06.and there ends up being a vet we're on the winning side 92% of the time.

:43:07. > :43:10.And how do you... That's just a fact. Wellks he says it is not a

:43:11. > :43:14.fact. Where do you get that fact from? Most legislation is

:43:15. > :43:18.uncontroversial, but the things where we are object, we lose every

:43:19. > :43:23.time. The things where we're against, obviously we lose every

:43:24. > :43:26.time. Do you accept that? No. We can claim back sovereignty. When I was

:43:27. > :43:28.the Europe Minister and I went to the meetings and there would be a

:43:29. > :43:32.row about something. Sometimes people would say, Britain is bound

:43:33. > :43:36.to lose on this. My experience was if you sat down and you worked and

:43:37. > :43:40.you treated it like a lobbying campaign, you could nearly always

:43:41. > :43:44.create a winning come bin nation and then you managed to get the British

:43:45. > :43:47.voice being amplified across the EU. Now, my anxiety is that, if we were

:43:48. > :43:51.to leave the European Union, what will happen is that all the same

:43:52. > :43:57.decision will keep on being made, we will want to be in the single market

:43:58. > :44:01.because otherwise we are turning our backs on economic prosperity and we

:44:02. > :44:04.will have to swallow every rule and regulation that's brought out

:44:05. > :44:09.without ever being able to influence it. People say this is the terrible

:44:10. > :44:12.thing that Norway has decided by not joining, but since, you'll

:44:13. > :44:17.understand this, since the Norway referendum, more people, more

:44:18. > :44:20.Norwegians, 70%, every poll, suggests that more Norwegians want

:44:21. > :44:24.to stay out of the EU. They understand the arguments you are

:44:25. > :44:29.making and 70% still want to stay out of the EU. Unless they are

:44:30. > :44:34.deluded why on earth would more than was the case when they did their

:44:35. > :44:38.referendum in 94? I want to talk more about the laws enacted in this

:44:39. > :44:42.uncan and the EU power over that effectively. Because we're talking

:44:43. > :44:48.about different figures being quoted and how much the UK wins votes. In

:44:49. > :44:51.terms of the numbers of laws enacted in this country as direct result of

:44:52. > :44:56.the EU, again, very different figures coming out of both camps.

:44:57. > :45:02.They range between 10% and 17%. Forget about the figures. Why? What

:45:03. > :45:09.the European communities Act does is subordinate Parliamentary laws to EU

:45:10. > :45:12.laws. That's a fact. Hang on, you're disputing how much control the UK

:45:13. > :45:19.Parliament has in terms of making laws. You see it differently. What

:45:20. > :45:25.proportion of UK laws... Whatever figures he says. I'm saying because

:45:26. > :45:30.of the European communities Act Parliament laws, Parliamentary laws,

:45:31. > :45:32.are subordinate. They are out ranked by EU laws and that's what I

:45:33. > :45:42.fundamentally object to. He is making a theoretical argument.

:45:43. > :45:47.That what is it is. I start from a different principle that I want the

:45:48. > :45:53.British people to be able to have as much influence over the things that

:45:54. > :45:58.affect their lives N a global world where people, money, business

:45:59. > :46:02.travels in far more than it ever did when our parents or grandparents

:46:03. > :46:06.were born, that is more difficult to do, because you're dealing with

:46:07. > :46:10.international corporations and want to make them pay tax and it is more

:46:11. > :46:15.difficult in any one country to force them to do that. If you unite

:46:16. > :46:19.you stand a better chance of doing that. On foreign policy, it is

:46:20. > :46:23.difficult for Britain to stand up to Putin on our own, but with the EU we

:46:24. > :46:29.stand a better chance and I think you were talking about steel earlier

:46:30. > :46:34.and I don't think we stand a chance of dealing with the problem of

:46:35. > :46:40.Chinese overproduction of steel unless we do that on a common basis.

:46:41. > :46:45.For me, what we do by being a member of the EU is we get an opportunity

:46:46. > :46:52.to magnify our influence in the world. Thing is this discussion was

:46:53. > :47:03.about sovereignty and Chris dismissed my argument as a

:47:04. > :47:11.theoretical argument. Does Parliament have the power or the EU.

:47:12. > :47:17.You didn't answer that point. Well I thought I had answered, but I think

:47:18. > :47:24.that... It is not just about how you write the laws, but the application

:47:25. > :47:30.of laws. For a British person is it more important than an individual

:47:31. > :47:36.law is written in this country, or is it more important you have a

:47:37. > :47:42.British version of law that is applied across Europement This is a

:47:43. > :47:48.fundamental difference. I think it is important that theoretically we

:47:49. > :47:53.are are the sovereign power. Chris is being honest and saying I'm happy

:47:54. > :47:58.for that to happen. So long as the practical outcome. But I want

:47:59. > :48:02.sovereignty to be vested in a Parliament elected by the people

:48:03. > :48:07.here. If you can achieve a swrags where the law you want -- situation

:48:08. > :48:11.where the law you want does I my in the UK and also applies in Europe

:48:12. > :48:15.and you have had to make compromises with other countries, but that means

:48:16. > :48:20.your businesses can do better business in Europe or you when you

:48:21. > :48:23.travel in Europe or do business in Europe can do better, I can't see

:48:24. > :48:29.how we have lost out. I think the principle is important is what

:48:30. > :48:37.happens is that any laws that we pass are subject to a foreign power.

:48:38. > :48:44.The 20th century is full of countries that became independent

:48:45. > :48:48.and they never said you are better because of this, it is they want to

:48:49. > :48:51.be independent. I think in the British context that is something we

:48:52. > :48:57.can achieve if we vote the right way on 23rd. We have to stop. What about

:48:58. > :49:05.the Tupperware you can just put the lid on. Thank you very much. Have

:49:06. > :49:10.you decided how you will vote. If you're not still not sure, you can

:49:11. > :49:11.take part in one of our big TV audience debates on 6th June we will

:49:12. > :49:24.be in Manchester. If you want to take part and can get

:49:25. > :49:27.to Manchester from wherever you are in the UK do

:49:28. > :49:29.e-mail victoria@bbc.co.uk to have your chance to quiz

:49:30. > :49:34.and listen to senior politicians Coming up: As comedian Bill Cosby

:49:35. > :49:40.prepares to stand trial on sexual assault charges,

:49:41. > :49:43.we hear from one of his alleged victims who describes how

:49:44. > :49:48.he gave her pills before raping her. Gregg and Kathryn Brain have

:49:49. > :49:51.lived in the Highlands They arrived in Scotland

:49:52. > :49:57.from Australia after the Scottish Government encouraged

:49:58. > :50:03.foreign nationals to relocate there, but they now face being

:50:04. > :50:06.deported in six days time. It's all because the type

:50:07. > :50:08.of visa they would need Their case has now been taken

:50:09. > :50:12.up by Scotland's First Let's speak to Greg,

:50:13. > :50:19.Kathryn and their son Lachlin - who live in Inverness at the moment,

:50:20. > :50:22.along with their local MP Ian Blackford who has

:50:23. > :50:23.championed their cause with the Immigration

:50:24. > :50:34.Minister in Westminster. Greg and Kathryn, you came here in

:50:35. > :50:40.2011 from Australia, when you came, did you believe it would be forever?

:50:41. > :50:47.We certainly had long-term plans, that was included in our visa

:50:48. > :50:52.application with Cathy's studies she could use them as part of her

:50:53. > :50:57.employment. One of inducements offered was there would be a

:50:58. > :51:03.two-year post study work visa that would enable us to develop a

:51:04. > :51:09.relationship with an employer to see the value of sponsoring us for a

:51:10. > :51:15.longer term plan. Why did you want to come here? We have both got

:51:16. > :51:20.Scottish ancestry and came here in 2001 on our tenth wedding

:51:21. > :51:26.anniversary and felt we belonged here. In 2005 we came back to do a

:51:27. > :51:30.reality check trip to see what the cost-of-living was and to start

:51:31. > :51:35.planning towards relocating to here and it was in 2007 when the Highland

:51:36. > :51:40.home coming programme was promoted in Australia and we started looking

:51:41. > :51:48.into that line of visas that would be available. But with our ancestry,

:51:49. > :51:53.it is our great grandparents so we had to look at other option and the

:51:54. > :51:59.fresh talent programme provided that. You sold up in Australia and

:52:00. > :52:06.decided to immerse you're in life in the Highlands. Absolutely. The

:52:07. > :52:09.degree I applied for was a Scottish cultural studies degree with the

:52:10. > :52:15.University of Highlands and Islands. Towards the end of my second year of

:52:16. > :52:20.that degree, it had changed so with the approval of my programme leaders

:52:21. > :52:23.I switched into the double major of Scottish history and archaeology

:52:24. > :52:27.programme, which I have now completed and of course the dream

:52:28. > :52:33.job would be something with national trust or historic Scotland to

:52:34. > :52:39.further that knowledge I have gained. But at the moment you know

:52:40. > :52:45.we are just wanting to make a life here with our wee boy Lachlan, again

:52:46. > :52:51.following our cultural roots. That is where we are at at the moment.

:52:52. > :52:57.Greg, where you're at at the moment though is facing deportation in six

:52:58. > :53:05.days. Can you believe that? Are you prepared to leave in six days? Well,

:53:06. > :53:08.yes we have to be. Due to circumstances related to this we

:53:09. > :53:12.have been evicted from the house we were living in and we are now living

:53:13. > :53:16.on the charity of friends. All our property is packed up in Inverness

:53:17. > :53:22.and they're waiting on instructions as to what address to deliver that

:53:23. > :53:27.to whether it is somewhere here if we get to stay or back to Australia

:53:28. > :53:32.if we have to leave. Tell us more about your personal circumstances,

:53:33. > :53:36.when and why were you evicted? Well, our landlord when this started, we

:53:37. > :53:44.were on a casual lease and had been there for two years and were on a

:53:45. > :53:49.month to month short tenancy. Our landlord said we either sign on for

:53:50. > :53:59.another six months or leave, because we couldn't guarantee another six

:54:00. > :54:04.months, he gave us a notice of eviction with saying we were engaged

:54:05. > :54:09.in criminal activity. Did you have money to pay rent and have you been

:54:10. > :54:15.able to support yourselves? We have never missed a payment in rent and

:54:16. > :54:20.we got our full bond back at the end of the tenancy. The agent who

:54:21. > :54:25.inspected the property agreed the property was in better condition

:54:26. > :54:34.when we left than when we arrived. Let's bring in Ian, you're the local

:54:35. > :54:35.MP, they came under the fresh talent scheme and believed they would be

:54:36. > :54:43.welcomed scheme and believed they would be

:54:44. > :54:45.entire family is an scheme and believed they would be

:54:46. > :54:49.Scotland. You scheme and believed they would be

:54:50. > :54:54.boy who reads and rites in Gaelic. If the family are deported they have

:54:55. > :54:59.to go back to Australia, although he can speak English, he reads and

:55:00. > :55:05.writes in Gaelic. The basic decency should come in and I'm asking the

:55:06. > :55:11.Government to show come passion. They came with good grace, thinking

:55:12. > :55:15.they would satisfy the requirements for the visa. I'm asking the

:55:16. > :55:19.minister to recognise there are very people that came under that

:55:20. > :55:24.initiative that are still here. This is not about creating a precedent,

:55:25. > :55:26.but understanding that we have a family that want to

:55:27. > :55:31.but understanding that we have a in the Highlands. Our population has

:55:32. > :55:36.declined over the course of the last hundred years and we need

:55:37. > :55:38.declined over the course of the last our economy. I'm asking the

:55:39. > :55:45.Government to show come passion and give them what would have been that

:55:46. > :55:48.post work study visa to allow them to stay here for the longer

:55:49. > :55:53.post work study visa to allow them You said about being in touch with

:55:54. > :55:56.the immigration minister, in a statement the Government says the

:55:57. > :55:59.minister did grant a period of grace to allow the family to

:56:00. > :56:03.minister did grant a period of grace their stay and the minister granted

:56:04. > :56:08.a further extension to their stay and the minister granted

:56:09. > :56:13.job applications, however, evidence of a relevant job in line with

:56:14. > :56:14.immigration rules has not been provided to date. They have been

:56:15. > :56:22.given a chance. provided to date. They have been

:56:23. > :56:24.this, the whole process of being evicted from the

:56:25. > :56:29.this, the whole process of being takes time to get a job to qualify.

:56:30. > :56:33.Both have come close to this over the last few weeks. I'm not asking

:56:34. > :56:38.they should be given special treatment in so far as they should

:56:39. > :56:43.not have to qualify, but that they're given what was offered to

:56:44. > :56:51.them when they came here in 2011 that, postwork study visa, a

:56:52. > :56:55.two-year qualification giving time for both to qualify. It is about the

:56:56. > :56:59.appropriate amount of time. I would appeal to employers in the Highlands

:57:00. > :57:04.and Islands that in the six days that we have got, if anyone could

:57:05. > :57:12.use the skill set, the very good skill set they have, that would be

:57:13. > :57:17.helpful. Is it literally any job? No there are specific criteria. It is

:57:18. > :57:23.difficult to... ? No, there has been a lot of bad luck. Kathryn was

:57:24. > :57:30.offered a job that satisfied the visa, but that offer was

:57:31. > :57:38.reskinneded, because of - rescinded. The Government has to recognise this

:57:39. > :57:41.can't be done over night. Greg was working. So I'm asking the

:57:42. > :57:47.Government to allow them to work and go through this process to qualify

:57:48. > :57:52.for the visa. Greg and Kathryn, the immigration minister has given you

:57:53. > :57:57.extra time twice to be able to find work so you can comply with the visa

:57:58. > :58:02.requirements. Why hasn't it happened? Yes, as Ian said there has

:58:03. > :58:07.been some bad luck, days after we were given the first extension

:58:08. > :58:11.Kathryn's employer had a tragic change of circumstances personally

:58:12. > :58:17.and had to pull out. Then there was a job with the Highland council

:58:18. > :58:22.which matched my health and safety and education policy skills set that

:58:23. > :58:26.I brought from Australia, I applied for that job and then found the

:58:27. > :58:33.position had been withdrawn because it had been filled by a redeployee.

:58:34. > :58:44.And the bar has been set very high for us. What we have to do in this

:58:45. > :58:52.next few days is to interview with an employer that knows us not at all

:58:53. > :58:58.and convince them that we are worth investing some ?4,000 odd in

:58:59. > :59:04.immigration lawyers' fees and Home Office application fees to get a

:59:05. > :59:09.sponsorship licence. It is very difficult to convince them you're

:59:10. > :59:16.worth employing and a ?4,000 signing bonus. We are asking for the home

:59:17. > :59:21.awe Home Office to live up to the visas that were in place that would

:59:22. > :59:26.give us two years to establish a career here, to establish a rapport

:59:27. > :59:30.with an employer and to convince them of our value so they would be

:59:31. > :59:32.willing to make that investment. Thank you all very much for joining

:59:33. > :59:35.us. A Home Office spokesperson told us,

:59:36. > :59:37."All visa applications are considered on their individual

:59:38. > :59:39.merits, and applicants must provide evidence to show

:59:40. > :59:54.they meet the requirements Now the weather. Carol is here. We

:59:55. > :59:58.are matching today? We are. The weather is uniform as well. There is

:59:59. > :00:04.a lot of cloud around today and the best of the brightness will be in

:00:05. > :00:11.the west and I can show your that in some pictures sent in. A cloudy

:00:12. > :00:17.start in Kent and also in Isle of Wight as we drift west some brighter

:00:18. > :00:25.skies in Dorset. But in the north we are still looking at cloud.

:00:26. > :00:31.It is rather cloudy across north east Scotland also. It is

:00:32. > :00:36.illustrated where we have got all the cloud and when we have some

:00:37. > :00:41.breaks and sunshine. As we get through the day, cloud will move a

:00:42. > :00:44.bit further towards the west. We will also see some more rain coming

:00:45. > :00:50.out that cloud, it will be on and off through the day. Eventually

:00:51. > :00:56.getting in possibly to the borders of Scotland. To the north of that in

:00:57. > :01:00.Scotland, there will be some sunshine. To the south-west also.

:01:01. > :01:04.But the rain continuing through the afternoon across northern England,

:01:05. > :01:09.the Midlands, patchy in nature across East Anglia. Moving down to

:01:10. > :01:14.the south east, still a lot of cloud around, more than yesterday. We will

:01:15. > :01:20.see is lighter breaks here and there. More likely to see sunshine

:01:21. > :01:24.in the south-west. After a sunny start across western part of Wales

:01:25. > :01:30.and the south-west, cloud building with some patchy rain across north

:01:31. > :01:34.Wales. Then for Northern Ireland, mixture of bright spells, some

:01:35. > :01:39.sunshine and the odd shower. You will see the lion's share of the

:01:40. > :01:45.sunshine in Scotland today. Always feeling cool down the seacoast. We

:01:46. > :01:49.still have that rain across northern parts of the country as we go

:01:50. > :01:53.through the night. Into Northern Ireland, slipping southwards across

:01:54. > :01:58.Wales. Across southern counties, some breaks in the cloud, as in the

:01:59. > :02:02.north. And in the north west of Scotland, it could be cold enough

:02:03. > :02:07.for some frost. Perhaps some sunshine tomorrow. We still have

:02:08. > :02:11.this weather front draped across the central swathes of the country

:02:12. > :02:16.tomorrow. It will produce a little bit of rain and it will fill cooler

:02:17. > :02:20.in the north. Sunshine further south and feeling quite muddy. Amateurs

:02:21. > :02:26.will be rising through the day and we find it could spark off some

:02:27. > :02:31.thundery showers. Friday, a brighter day for some of us but still showers

:02:32. > :02:37.dotted around. Sunshine in the north, some in the north. -- some in

:02:38. > :02:39.the south. Some thunderstorms likely to be sparked off with those rising

:02:40. > :03:03.temperatures. Hello it's Wednesday, it's 10am.

:03:04. > :03:06.I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria. Welcome to the programme

:03:07. > :03:08.if you've just joined us. As comedian Bill Cosby

:03:09. > :03:14.prepares to stand trial on sexual assault charges,

:03:15. > :03:22.we hear from one of his alleged Victims, who watched him like a

:03:23. > :03:28.hawk. For many years, most of us thought

:03:29. > :03:31.we were the only one. And we didn't realise

:03:32. > :03:33.that we had been victimised From midnight tonight, legal highs

:03:34. > :03:38.will no longer be legal in the UK. We'll talk to both supporters

:03:39. > :03:43.and critics of the new blanket ban And there's more trouble for Russia

:03:44. > :03:48.in the world of athletics. 14 of its athletes have failed

:03:49. > :03:51.a recent re-test for doping Could the country be

:03:52. > :04:06.banned from Rio? Good morning.

:04:07. > :04:11.It's 10.04am. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:04:12. > :04:16.with a summary of today's news. A vote to leave the European Union

:04:17. > :04:19.would hurt the public finances - and potentially add up to two years

:04:20. > :04:22.to the government's austerity programme according to a new report

:04:23. > :04:24.from the Institute for Fiscal The research organisation says that

:04:25. > :04:30.leaving the EU could mean lower economic growth and a drop

:04:31. > :04:31.in tax receipts. Leave campaigners say a vote

:04:32. > :04:34.for Brexit could offer trade opportunities,

:04:35. > :04:36.but the IFS says any potential Our Economics Correspondent,

:04:37. > :04:43.Andy Verity reports. Less than a month away from the

:04:44. > :04:47.referendum, what Less than a month away from the

:04:48. > :05:01.case for leaving the European Less than a month away from the

:05:02. > :05:06.you count for subsidies to UK farmers, it is 150 million. It adds

:05:07. > :05:14.up to 8 billion a year which may seem large, but they say the economy

:05:15. > :05:16.would be 0.6% smaller and there would be less tax coming in, wiping

:05:17. > :05:27.out that saving. The immediate effect of leaving the

:05:28. > :05:32.EU is that we would be sending ?8 billion a year less to the rest of

:05:33. > :05:35.the European Union. That would improve public finances. But more

:05:36. > :05:41.likely, the economy would shrink relative to what would be the

:05:42. > :05:42.likely, the economy would shrink finance hit in the short run and

:05:43. > :05:48.probably be in the range of 20- ?40 finance hit in the short run and

:05:49. > :05:51.billion. That money would have to be added to borrowing according

:05:52. > :05:54.billion. That money would have to be IFS report, meaning there would have

:05:55. > :05:57.to be a couple of years extra austerity to balance the Budget.

:05:58. > :05:59.to be a couple of years extra of the relatively few economists

:06:00. > :06:05.backing vote Leave attacked the report. These other studies all come

:06:06. > :06:12.out with negatives and the reason is, they assume we don't go to free

:06:13. > :06:14.trade after Brexit. They assume it's because some obscure reason that

:06:15. > :06:19.they think the voters would put up with it. That is a political

:06:20. > :06:25.judgment which is not very common to me. The damage to the public

:06:26. > :06:32.finances would be far less, says the IFS, than the 2008 crisis. Whether

:06:33. > :06:36.it is a price worth paying is for voters to decide.

:06:37. > :06:41.A dozen former senior military officers have spoken out

:06:42. > :06:46.They warn that EU law is undermining Britain's combat

:06:47. > :06:59.A new group led by a former boss of Mothercare is thought to be

:07:00. > :07:03.The Richess Group is being led by Greg Tufnell,

:07:04. > :07:06.the brother of former England cricketer Phil Tufnell.

:07:07. > :07:08.Other bidders, including the founder of Matalan,

:07:09. > :07:10.are understood to have fallen out of the running.

:07:11. > :07:13.Sources close to the process say that if no buyer is found by Friday,

:07:14. > :07:16.BHS is likely to be liquidated, putting the retailer's 11,000

:07:17. > :07:22.Hundreds of steelworkers are expected to march

:07:23. > :07:24.through central London today, to highlight the crisis facing

:07:25. > :07:31.The protest comes as the future of Tata Steel's British operation

:07:32. > :07:34.is discussed at the company's board meeting in Mumbai.

:07:35. > :07:37.The Business Secretary and the First Minister of Wales have

:07:38. > :07:39.travelled to India to hold talks with bosses.

:07:40. > :07:41.In March, the company announced plans to sell

:07:42. > :07:48.Marks and Spencer has reported a rise in underlying profits by 4.3%

:07:49. > :07:54.The retailer has said future short-term profits will be hit

:07:55. > :08:01.by a revamp of its clothing and home range where sales have fallen.

:08:02. > :08:03.The new Chief Executive, Steve Rowe, said he intends to cut prices

:08:04. > :08:10.Nearly three-quarters of the care homes in England rated as inadequate

:08:11. > :08:13.by the Care Quality Commission, have now improved.

:08:14. > :08:15.The watchdog says its tougher inspection regime is

:08:16. > :08:20.Care providers warn that will only continue if funding is improved.

:08:21. > :08:24.The government says its made ?3.5 billion available to councils.

:08:25. > :08:28.Here's our Social Affairs Correspondent, Alison Holt.

:08:29. > :08:32.Care that is kind and provides support tailored to the needs

:08:33. > :08:35.of each person is at the heart of what the Care Quality Commission

:08:36. > :08:37.is looking for when it inspects homes as part

:08:38. > :08:44.Most homes in England are providing care rated as good.

:08:45. > :08:52.The first time the CQC has analysed what happens after a home is told

:08:53. > :08:59.Over 18 months, 372 homes in England were rated as inadequate.

:09:00. > :09:04.When inspectors returned, three quarters had made some improvement.

:09:05. > :09:08.99 were still failing and 34 had gone out of business.

:09:09. > :09:11.I think these are really encouraging results,

:09:12. > :09:15.they demonstrate people can make the improvements

:09:16. > :09:20.But I'm not complacent and I don't think care homes should be either.

:09:21. > :09:26.Care home owners welcome the results but they warn the squeeze on fees

:09:27. > :09:29.paid by local authorities who buy most social care means that many

:09:30. > :09:33.homes are srtuggling simply to survive.

:09:34. > :09:38.We have some serious problems around the underfunding of social care

:09:39. > :09:42.and I'm really concerned that we're going to see a lot of the gainss

:09:43. > :09:45.in quality that have been made over the years slipping back due

:09:46. > :09:51.The Government has said it is putting more money into social

:09:52. > :09:57.care and the CQC maintains its findings show,

:09:58. > :10:00.despite the pressure on the sector, standards are being pushed up.

:10:01. > :10:11.Lord Sugar has just been appointed enterprise staff. The government

:10:12. > :10:15.says it wants to get more young people to start their own business

:10:16. > :10:19.and that the role will also be about encouraging businesses to take on

:10:20. > :10:24.apprentices. Lord Sugar was appointed to the same role in 2009

:10:25. > :10:28.by Jie Zheng Labour leader, Gordon Brown. He left the Labour Party

:10:29. > :10:29.earlier this month over what he called its negative stance on

:10:30. > :10:33.business. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:10:34. > :10:38.News - more at 10.30am. Victoria Valentine claimed she was

:10:39. > :10:43.attacked by Bill Cosby. Do get in touch with us

:10:44. > :10:45.throughout the morning - use the hashtag Victoria Live

:10:46. > :10:55.and if you text, you will be charged More on our top story that Russia

:10:56. > :11:00.could be stripped of up to nine medals from the 2008 Beijing

:11:01. > :11:06.Olympics after retest of drug samples found positive results for

:11:07. > :11:10.14 of the country's athletes. A decision on whether its athletes

:11:11. > :11:14.will compete in Rio this summer will be made next month. We can speak to

:11:15. > :11:20.the Olympic medallist Kelly Sutherland. The committee will not

:11:21. > :11:24.name these athletes and tell the samples have been checked. Do you

:11:25. > :11:32.feel you have potentially missed out on a medal? I mentioned my social

:11:33. > :11:37.media can yesterday that I was unsure if the athlete who finished

:11:38. > :11:40.third was tested because obviously she finished fourth after the

:11:41. > :11:48.original doping and I queried whether she was in doping. She has

:11:49. > :11:54.not and she has had a test subsequently in 2009 and 2011.

:11:55. > :12:02.Potentially, I will never get the upgrade I may deserve.

:12:03. > :12:13.You kind of have two suck that up. You shouldn't but you have to. You

:12:14. > :12:17.look at yourself, someone like Goldie Sayers who could potentially

:12:18. > :12:22.have a bronze medal in the javelin, it is like changing because of the

:12:23. > :12:25.sponsorship involved, funding, getting a medal eight years on is

:12:26. > :12:33.not the same, you cannot recreate that. The four by four boys and

:12:34. > :12:37.Goldie Sayers, they would have had a different level of funding, they

:12:38. > :12:42.would have had sponsored deals, more kit deals, more funding going into

:12:43. > :12:46.2012 because they would have been Olympic medallist going into a home

:12:47. > :12:52.game will stop the Russians that had one metal and now are accused

:12:53. > :13:02.potentially doping, some of them won medals in 2012. Also in 2008,

:13:03. > :13:07.Collins, our sports director, he lost his job because we did not hit

:13:08. > :13:13.our medal target. If we get two more medals, he would have then exceeded

:13:14. > :13:17.his medal target which could have had different ramifications for him.

:13:18. > :13:23.So it is not just the athletes that lose out, it is support staff and it

:13:24. > :13:28.is a massive affect, a big country like Russia doping, it isn't just

:13:29. > :13:32.the athletes who lose out. I spoke to Martyn Rooney last night, he was

:13:33. > :13:36.on BBC Breakfast this morning and he said it is too soon for Russia to be

:13:37. > :13:46.reintroduced to athletics in terms of Rio. He is set for an upgrade, is

:13:47. > :13:50.that too soon? I think sadly for the country, I think they need to ensure

:13:51. > :13:55.that their government in doping is correct. This is just putting

:13:56. > :14:10.another nail in their coughing, I feel. It is bad for the clean

:14:11. > :14:16.Russian athletes. -- coffin. I think they think, well, they are cheating,

:14:17. > :14:19.we will treat. I totally agree with Martin Rooney, there's not enough

:14:20. > :14:23.time for them to get their and put their house in order for the Rio

:14:24. > :14:31.games. Their athletes need to be lobbying and getting angry with

:14:32. > :14:38.their federation. And nobody at. They need to tell them why have you

:14:39. > :14:40.allowed this to happen? I feel that is where the athletes's anger should

:14:41. > :14:52.be placed. Thanks for coming on. A decision will be made as to

:14:53. > :14:55.whether Russia will compete at Ryu month. We are talking more about

:14:56. > :15:02.that a little later. At midnight tonight legal highs

:15:03. > :15:05.will no longer be legal in the UK. The government was under pressure

:15:06. > :15:07.to act after a steady stream of reports of young people addicted,

:15:08. > :15:10.mentally unwell and even dying from products you could buy

:15:11. > :15:14.in a high street shop. To fix this, they've brought

:15:15. > :15:16.into play the Psychoactive It's a blanket ban on all legal

:15:17. > :15:24.highs, which the government is defining as anything that creates

:15:25. > :15:26.a psychoactive response, A lot of people, especially

:15:27. > :16:00.around my age, think they don't So the easy way to go

:16:01. > :16:06.about it and still get high They're there, they're

:16:07. > :16:21.just so easy to buy. It is an increasing problem,

:16:22. > :16:25.especially with the youth. The main problem is that

:16:26. > :16:28.people really have no idea He was getting in trouble

:16:29. > :16:52.with the police. He ended up in hospital,

:16:53. > :16:56.two or three times. He left our home, 50 yards away

:16:57. > :17:30.he could get legal highs. The main danger with nitrous

:17:31. > :17:35.oxide is lack of oxygen. What that can lead to is

:17:36. > :17:37.what is called hypoxaemia, It can also cause heart problems,

:17:38. > :17:43.breathing problems. If you have a pre-existing heart

:17:44. > :17:44.condition, In the studio with me is Jan King

:17:45. > :18:15.from legal high education group 'Angelus Foundation',

:18:16. > :18:16.who thinks the government As well as Steve Rolles -

:18:17. > :18:21.an analyst at drug policy foundation, Transform,

:18:22. > :18:22.who disagrees and thinks a ban From Newcastle, we have 23-year-old

:18:23. > :18:31.Stephen Wooton who just broke an addiction to legal highs and says

:18:32. > :18:36.a ban alone won't work. And lastly in Worcester,

:18:37. > :18:39.Detective Chief Inspector Ally Wright who serves Warwickshire

:18:40. > :18:42.Police and West Mercia Police. He's all for the ban and says

:18:43. > :18:55.new police powers will make a big Jan, you think it is a good thing,

:18:56. > :19:01.what difference do you think it will make? We are glad it's happened. We

:19:02. > :19:06.will it will take it off the high street. We are seeing it already.

:19:07. > :19:11.These things have been seen as legal and young people think they're safe,

:19:12. > :19:16.they clearly aren't to getting them off the high street has to be a good

:19:17. > :19:22.thing. It is not the only answer. But this is an important step in the

:19:23. > :19:27.right direction. It is too much of a risk for young people and getting

:19:28. > :19:30.rid of them is vital. What do you think Steve, will that transform

:19:31. > :19:40.things if they're taking off the high street? It will, but we are

:19:41. > :19:46.concerned it will move to criminal street dealers and unregulated

:19:47. > :19:52.online sales and could make the market more dirty and dangerous than

:19:53. > :19:55.it already is. Acknowledging the status quo isn't satisfactory, we

:19:56. > :19:59.are concerned the solution will make things worse. And when bans have

:20:00. > :20:06.been tried it doesn't seem to have been affected. The problem has not

:20:07. > :20:11.reseeded. What about what it means for the market, if somebody has not

:20:12. > :20:18.taken it before and it is legal and on the high street, they might take

:20:19. > :20:21.it, the market would, is different if new users don't necessarily go

:20:22. > :20:29.down that path, because it is not legal and on the high street? Yes,

:20:30. > :20:35.high street sales of any product anyone wants to sell is not a

:20:36. > :20:41.satisfactory situation. So we agree with Angelus the status quo is not

:20:42. > :20:46.satisfactory, but just by saying these are bad things and we will ban

:20:47. > :20:56.them is not a solution. That could make things worse and other options

:20:57. > :21:03.for licensing sales of some of the lower risk, some are very risky.

:21:04. > :21:10.Some are relatively benign. We could capture that market within a

:21:11. > :21:13.regulatory frame work, rather than gifting it to organised crime. These

:21:14. > :21:17.have been put in place to get around the law, taking them out of that

:21:18. > :21:25.picture will at least start to regulate things in a much better way

:21:26. > :21:29.than in the past. It is... The political landscape doesn't support

:21:30. > :21:35.regulating the market. So we have to do something now. Let's talk to

:21:36. > :21:40.Steven. You became addicted to legal highs in 2014. You're now off them.

:21:41. > :21:44.But was the fact that they were legal a reason why you started

:21:45. > :21:51.taking them? It was yes, it was just that I could get it easy when ever I

:21:52. > :21:56.wanted it around the corner and it was cheap, it was too cheap. That

:21:57. > :22:06.was the problem. If they hadn't been legal, would you have taken them or

:22:07. > :22:10.taken anything else. If they were not legal I probably wouldn't have

:22:11. > :22:14.heard of them. I lived in the town centre and the town centre was where

:22:15. > :22:20.it was sold. What do you think about the ban? The ban itself it will

:22:21. > :22:24.work, but they need to work more small time as well. Because I have

:22:25. > :22:30.heard that possession, there is nothing that can happen, so that

:22:31. > :22:38.won't stop people falling asleep in the middle of parks where kids and

:22:39. > :22:42.parents walk around during the day. Do you know people who use them and

:22:43. > :22:47.from midnight will be criminalised, do you think they will change their

:22:48. > :22:54.behaviour? I think there is a few people that are still on them and

:22:55. > :22:59.I'm trying to help them. I be But it will just make them want it more the

:23:00. > :23:08.ban. It will be the police's job to police this new law, how easy will

:23:09. > :23:21.that be? I think just a couple of points, I think Steve was referring

:23:22. > :23:28.to the substances that are are more benign, when people buy these things

:23:29. > :23:32.they have no idea of chemical come position and don't know the harm

:23:33. > :23:37.that can be caused. That is why through time we have established

:23:38. > :23:42.that there is significant harm caused and in some cases people have

:23:43. > :23:50.died. You showed the trauma caused in one family as a result of people

:23:51. > :23:55.taking it. You listen to another ex-addict, so it is wrong to say

:23:56. > :23:59.that some are safer than others. We just don't know when we buy them

:24:00. > :24:06.what they are. In terms of the police role and now they are

:24:07. > :24:10.illegal, do you really believe there will be prosecutions arising from

:24:11. > :24:17.the new law? OK, what we have done in the build up to the law coming in

:24:18. > :24:21.to force tomorrow, we know that high street head shops are the venues

:24:22. > :24:28.where people buy them. Or on the internet. That is another main

:24:29. > :24:32.supply chain for them. This law is about choking that supply chain, so

:24:33. > :24:36.we have approached all the head shops in our area and advised them

:24:37. > :24:42.of the new law. That is straight forward and that is obvious. That is

:24:43. > :24:46.on the high street. What about if it carries on and it is underground in

:24:47. > :24:54.the same way as other drugs are, do you expect that the police, that the

:24:55. > :25:00.new law will lead to prosecutions. I look at it differently, it is easy I

:25:01. > :25:03.to judge the police on binary statistics in terms of prosecution,

:25:04. > :25:09.for me it is about the reduction in harm that will be caused by cutting

:25:10. > :25:15.that supply chain. If we reduce the numbers of people addicted or even

:25:16. > :25:18.die as a result of taking these drugs, then I think a society and

:25:19. > :25:28.for the police we have done a good job. It sounds more like the message

:25:29. > :25:32.of the them being illegal having an impact, rather than the police

:25:33. > :25:38.having the resources to pursue the new law. No I don't accept that.

:25:39. > :25:48.Sorry, will the police use their resources to pursue this law? Yes.

:25:49. > :25:51.We will adopt a practical and proportionate response to any

:25:52. > :25:57.instance where people are selling, producing or supplying any of these

:25:58. > :26:02.stub -- substances, because we know the law is here. Practical and

:26:03. > :26:08.proportionate, that is a matter of perspective. In the list of

:26:09. > :26:13.priorities when police have finite resources and you're dealing with

:26:14. > :26:17.other issues that have been there, this is an extra thing on your

:26:18. > :26:22.plate, where will it rank on the list of priorities. We know these

:26:23. > :26:28.substances do cause deaths and therefore it will be given the

:26:29. > :26:33.appropriate priority within the police and if we receive information

:26:34. > :26:38.that people are selling it or dealing it, we will act upon it.

:26:39. > :26:45.What do you think about that, Jan zm? I am I am sure it will be a

:26:46. > :26:49.difficult challenge for the police and it is good to hear how they're

:26:50. > :26:56.responding. Would you want the police to make it a priority. It

:26:57. > :27:00.must be, but it is important it is not just about the law and what the

:27:01. > :27:03.police do, it is about what young people know about the subject that

:27:04. > :27:12.they know it is a risk and they hear that and that has not been the case,

:27:13. > :27:15.the Government haven't prioritised it as an education message there.

:27:16. > :27:19.Needs to be more to get the message so young people know, because the

:27:20. > :27:23.clock isn't going to go back to what it was before. It will continue to

:27:24. > :27:28.change. That is our concern to make sure we stay ahead of what is

:27:29. > :27:35.happening and keep equipping young people with the ability to take the

:27:36. > :27:40.appropriate risks. You said, we are out of time, you said elsewhere

:27:41. > :27:45.where the laws have come in the issues has got worse. So perhaps we

:27:46. > :27:58.will talk to you again when the law has had some time to run.

:27:59. > :28:00.As the migrant crisis in Europe intensified,

:28:01. > :28:02.much of the attention was on the plight of

:28:03. > :28:05.It's thought up to ten thousand have gone missing -

:28:06. > :28:08.with many falling into the hands of gangs and people smugglers.

:28:09. > :28:11.Hundreds also ended up at the Calais camp known as "The Jungle" -

:28:12. > :28:14.living in tents for months on end - risking their lives on lorries

:28:15. > :28:19.One of those stuck there is a 16-year-old from Syria -

:28:20. > :28:23.He didn't just tell us his story - he drew it.

:28:24. > :31:27.It's 10.31am with the news. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom.

:31:28. > :31:30.A vote to leave the European Union would hurt the public finances -

:31:31. > :31:33.and potentially add up to two years to the government's austerity

:31:34. > :31:35.programme according to a new report from the Institute for Fiscal

:31:36. > :31:41.The research organisation says that leaving the EU could mean lower

:31:42. > :31:44.economic growth and a drop in tax receipts.

:31:45. > :31:46.Leave campaigners say a vote for Brexit could offer

:31:47. > :31:49.trade opportunities, but the IFS says any potential

:31:50. > :32:06.The Prime Minister says there are and encouraging number of offers for

:32:07. > :32:10.Tata Steel UK. The protest comes as the future of Tata Steel's British

:32:11. > :32:15.operation is discussed at the company's board meeting in Mumbai.

:32:16. > :32:17.The government says it is doing everything it can to secure a

:32:18. > :32:20.successful sale of the business. A new group led by a former boss

:32:21. > :32:23.of Mothercare is thought to be The Richess Group is being

:32:24. > :32:27.led by Greg Tufnell, the brother of former England

:32:28. > :32:29.cricketer Phil Tufnell. Other bidders, including

:32:30. > :32:31.the founder of Matalan, are understood to have fallen out

:32:32. > :32:33.of the running. Sources close to the process say

:32:34. > :32:37.that if no buyer is found by Friday, thousand staff out of work.

:32:38. > :32:47.putting the retailer's 11 The retailer has said future short

:32:48. > :32:53.term profits will be hit by a revamp of its clothing and home range

:32:54. > :32:55.where sales have fallen. The new chief executive, Steve Rowe,

:32:56. > :32:58.said he intends to cut prices There has been a sharp drop

:32:59. > :33:04.in antibiotics being prescribed NHS figures for the year

:33:05. > :33:10.to May show there were 2.6 million fewer prescriptions

:33:11. > :33:13.than in the previous 12 months. Last week a major review

:33:14. > :33:15.of antibiotic resistance warned that by 2050 superbugs

:33:16. > :33:18.could kill one person every three seconds worldwide

:33:19. > :33:23.unless action was taken. That's a summary of the latest news,

:33:24. > :33:37.join me for BBC Newsroom Let's catch up with the sport.

:33:38. > :33:42.Russia could be stripped of up to nine medals from the 2008 Beijing

:33:43. > :33:48.Olympics after retest of drug samples found positive results for

:33:49. > :33:50.14 of the country's athletes. Russia is currently banned from

:33:51. > :33:52.international athletics competitions. The decision

:33:53. > :33:53.international athletics whether it's athlete can compete in

:33:54. > :33:56.Rio whether it's athlete can compete in

:33:57. > :34:02.Murray is back in action whether it's athlete can compete in

:34:03. > :34:06.taking on the wild card Matias Borg. He fought back from two sets down to

:34:07. > :34:12.beat the oldest man in the draw, Radek Stepanek. Kyle Edmund and

:34:13. > :34:18.Heather Watson both play today. Jose Mourinho's representatives will

:34:19. > :34:21.continue talks with Manchester United officials today. He is

:34:22. > :34:29.expected to be the manager by the end of the week. Scotland's Kim

:34:30. > :34:37.Liddle has been voted the BBC's women's Footballer of the Year. She

:34:38. > :34:39.dropped the supporters polled become the second winner of the BBC World

:34:40. > :34:48.Service award. He was once one of the biggest stars

:34:49. > :34:55.of US television but the actor The performer, who starred

:34:56. > :35:03.and sexually assaulted a woman The District Attorney

:35:04. > :35:24.is Kevin Steele. We are here because we want to serve

:35:25. > :35:29.the truth and seek justice. The evidence in this case is of a

:35:30. > :35:34.limited basis, a preliminary hearing is a situation where we only have to

:35:35. > :35:39.show that if a crime is committed and a defendant is connected to the

:35:40. > :35:45.crime... We did that was the victim statement and defendant's admissions

:35:46. > :35:48.to much of the crime. Consequently, we will move forward on the case and

:35:49. > :35:51.look forward to getting a trial date.

:35:52. > :35:54.Well one of his alleged victims is Victoria Valentino.

:35:55. > :35:59.Now in her 70s, she told me how she first met Bill Cosby after one

:36:00. > :36:02.of her girlfriends had told her that she could get a job

:36:03. > :36:15.Cosby has denied he sexually assaulted any women. The Tory talks

:36:16. > :36:16.about what happens to her. -- Victoria.

:36:17. > :36:20.You may find some of her story upsetting.

:36:21. > :36:30.I went and interviewed with him in his trailer and she said, take that

:36:31. > :36:37.picture of Tony, my little boy. We were sitting across from him and it

:36:38. > :36:43.was like, it was like talking to a cardboard cutout. It started to

:36:44. > :36:46.become very uncomfortable and it was clear I wasn't going to get an

:36:47. > :36:52.audition. The interview was basically over. So I got up and

:36:53. > :36:57.left, never expecting to see him again or expecting to get a call for

:36:58. > :37:06.an audition. I walked away from it and moved on. You did meet him

:37:07. > :37:13.again? What happened after that? My grandmother died shortly thereafter

:37:14. > :37:20.and I moved into her house in West Hollywood with three roommates. One

:37:21. > :37:30.of them was an actress and she liked to go over to cafe Figaro. He said

:37:31. > :37:34.to her, I think, Vicky, they called me then, he said I think the key

:37:35. > :37:42.would benefit from a massage and going to the steam bath and B treat

:37:43. > :37:46.you girls. He said, why don't you take her and when you are done, give

:37:47. > :37:55.me a call and I will take you girls out to dinner. He said I think it

:37:56. > :38:01.will make Vicky feel better. So that's what we did. We went home to

:38:02. > :38:07.my grandmother's has where we were living and my girlfriend, roommate

:38:08. > :38:11.called him. He sent a car for us and we were delivered to a restaurant on

:38:12. > :38:16.the Sunset strip and he met hers in the parking lot and took us down to

:38:17. > :38:28.the Dilla, to have dinner with him. It was in a unkept kind of setting.

:38:29. > :38:34.-- banquette kind of setting. My friend was in the middle. It was

:38:35. > :38:40.clear at that point that he was interested in her and he was

:38:41. > :38:47.charming her and chatting her up and telling silly jokes. It became very

:38:48. > :38:52.clear I was just the fifth wheel. He was interested in her and I was the

:38:53. > :38:56.excuse. It was just obvious. He was not really talking to me and I

:38:57. > :39:03.became sort of a wet blanket. He reached over and put a pill down

:39:04. > :39:08.next to my wine glass and next to hers and told us to take it, he said

:39:09. > :39:15.it would make us feel better. I was feeling like, I was dragging

:39:16. > :39:20.everybody down so I took the pill, thinking, you know, maybe I will

:39:21. > :39:28.feel better. I was desperate to feel better. I was really despondent. Do

:39:29. > :39:33.you know what the pill was? No. How did it make you feel? I started to

:39:34. > :39:39.get very groggy and I started to feel nauseated. I started feeling

:39:40. > :39:47.like I was spinning, my head was spinning and I couldn't keep my face

:39:48. > :39:52.out of my plate. I started to say, I really want to go home. He reached

:39:53. > :40:03.across and put another pill in my mouth and hers and he appeared to be

:40:04. > :40:06.also taking a pill himself. Whether or not that actually occurred, I

:40:07. > :40:13.don't remember. I don't know. Maybe he was making it seem as though it

:40:14. > :40:21.was a group... A party or something. I don't know. But anyway, she and I

:40:22. > :40:26.were both getting our heads... We could not keep our heads up. We were

:40:27. > :40:34.trying to talk and not making any sense and slurring our words. He

:40:35. > :40:39.said, I will take you home. All of a sudden, the car stopped and we were

:40:40. > :40:48.in front of a little town house. He said he wanted to show her his

:40:49. > :40:55.awards from I Spy, so I think we went on the second floor and it was

:40:56. > :41:02.clearly not working office. It was a room with two love seats and a

:41:03. > :41:07.little writing desk and an old, fake... One of those fake antique

:41:08. > :41:12.telephones and a little desk lamp. She went straight over to one love

:41:13. > :41:19.seat and sat down and then just keeled over. I sat on the other,

:41:20. > :41:24.right in front of the front door. I put my head back and tried to keep

:41:25. > :41:31.myself from passing out, throwing up. Trying to control the spinning

:41:32. > :41:35.in my head. Then everything got very silent and I started becoming

:41:36. > :41:43.alarmed. I thought maybe somehow I had passed out. So I opened my eyes

:41:44. > :41:51.and looked around and he was sitting next to her unconscious body and

:41:52. > :41:58.looking down at her, like a hawk, looking at a little Max. It became

:41:59. > :42:06.very obvious what he was planning. It was Terry clear and then, he

:42:07. > :42:12.started having a bulge in his pants and that was obvious and I was

:42:13. > :42:19.reaching out and trying, garbling my words but trying to distract him. He

:42:20. > :42:27.ignored me. He got very irritated and he got up and came over to me

:42:28. > :42:34.and I stood up and had to steady myself and the next thing I knew,

:42:35. > :42:44.and I stood up and had to steady had raped me, orally and vaginally

:42:45. > :42:50.and then he left. As he was going out of the door, I said, how are we

:42:51. > :43:01.going to get home? And he said, call the camp. The scene you are

:43:02. > :43:06.describing, he was very famous, he would have attracted attention. It

:43:07. > :43:13.took you obviously, over the years, until almost being in your 70s to

:43:14. > :43:17.start talking about this publicly. How did you feel when you looked at

:43:18. > :43:21.him and you knew something about him that you didn't think anybody else

:43:22. > :43:28.knew? I'd use to make a lot of sarcastic

:43:29. > :43:29.knew? I'd use to make a lot of television mentioned him or if his

:43:30. > :43:36.image crossed the screen, I would get up and leave the room or turn it

:43:37. > :43:45.off. He is 78 now and facing legal proceedings. We saw him being led

:43:46. > :43:47.into court by his spokesman, leaning on his spokesman. He has problems

:43:48. > :43:54.with his site. An old man. on his spokesman. He has problems

:43:55. > :44:01.look at him in that situation, going into court to face trial, how do you

:44:02. > :44:06.feel now? I think he is pathetic and I think he is the terrific actor.

:44:07. > :44:12.feel now? I think he is pathetic and was only up until

:44:13. > :44:14.feel now? I think he is pathetic and ago, he did

:44:15. > :44:23.feel now? I think he is pathetic and over the country. He is not as

:44:24. > :44:32.feeble as he pretends to be. Do you wish you had raised a complaint

:44:33. > :44:42.sooner? I don't know. What I do know is that for many years, most of us

:44:43. > :44:45.thought we were the only one and we didn't realise that we had been

:44:46. > :44:56.victimised by a serial predator. That was Victoria Valentino talking

:44:57. > :45:01.to me earlier. She was out of time for those allocations to be pursued

:45:02. > :45:08.but Bill Cosby will face a criminal trial, facing three counts of

:45:09. > :45:14.felony, indecent assault from a case in 2004. He denies the allegations.

:45:15. > :45:16.Could Russian athletes be banned from this year's Rio Olympics?

:45:17. > :45:19.That's the question on the lips of many after it was revealed that

:45:20. > :45:22.14 out of the 31 athletes who had samples from the 2008

:45:23. > :45:23.Beijing Olympics re-tested are Russian.

:45:24. > :45:26.The International Olympic Committee had earlier said it was looking

:45:27. > :45:30.Earlier this month a whistleblower alleged Russian Secret Agents helped

:45:31. > :45:34.protect some athletes at the 2104 Sochi Olympics.

:45:35. > :45:40.The world Anti-Doping Agency is now investigating those claims.

:45:41. > :45:44.The BBC's Sports Editor, Dan Roan has been to Moscow to find out more.

:45:45. > :45:49.This week's Modern Pentathlon World Championships, in Moscow,

:45:50. > :45:55.just one of the many global events Russia plays host to.

:45:56. > :45:57.But the action takes place against a backdrop

:45:58. > :46:03.Today, it was revealed that 14 of 31 athletes from the 2008 Olympics

:46:04. > :46:08.who failed recent retests of their doping samples

:46:09. > :46:10.were Russians - London 2012 gold medallist

:46:11. > :46:15.This afternoon, during rare behind-the-scenes access granted

:46:16. > :46:17.to us by the Russian authorities, the Sports Minister tried

:46:18. > :46:27.Almost half of the 31 being Russians, not good at all?

:46:28. > :46:29.TRANSLATION: Certainly, it doesn't look good.

:46:30. > :46:32.But take into account the fact that the Russian national team

:46:33. > :46:35.is the second-biggest after the USA, and represented by many leaders

:46:36. > :46:39.So this doesn't give an objective picture of the doping

:46:40. > :46:44.In 2014, a German documentary alleged that 99% of Russian

:46:45. > :46:50.An independent commission, finding the country guilty

:46:51. > :46:57.In November, Russia's athletes were banned

:46:58. > :47:03.Tonight, our sport finds itself in a shameful situation.

:47:04. > :47:05.But the crisis has now deepened - a former drugs testing chief

:47:06. > :47:11.claiming he ran a doping conspiracy at the Sochi Winter Games in 2014.

:47:12. > :47:12.This anonymous looking building is Moscow's

:47:13. > :47:20.1400 samples were allegedly destroyed here to cover up doping.

:47:21. > :47:23.Its licence has been revoked, but allowing us in here

:47:24. > :47:29.is all designed to show that Russia is cleaning up its act.

:47:30. > :47:31.So, this is it, the place where it all happened.

:47:32. > :47:34.This lab, the epicentre of what is alleged to have

:47:35. > :47:38.been a state-sponsored and sophisticated doping programme.

:47:39. > :47:44.With a decision on Russia's participation in Rio looming

:47:45. > :47:47.and less than a month away, every fresh claim of wrongdoing

:47:48. > :47:48.makes a humiliating exclusion from sport's flagship

:47:49. > :47:55.You can see from our statistics that we had 150-200

:47:56. > :48:02.So, of course, the number is quite big.

:48:03. > :48:04.So I think we needed changes and we are open

:48:05. > :48:12.It's wrong to have drug cheats anywhere near the Olympics.

:48:13. > :48:16.If the way to stamp it out and stop it is to, this year,

:48:17. > :48:19.remove a country that has been proven to be doing what they have

:48:20. > :48:22.been doing, in my opinion, that's the right way to go about it.

:48:23. > :48:24.But one of the country's most celebrated athlete says that Russia

:48:25. > :48:30.Speaking from her home in Volgograd, pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva

:48:31. > :48:34.told me a ban would be a violation of her human rights.

:48:35. > :48:38.I feel very sad, disappointed and, of course, very angry.

:48:39. > :48:42.Because all that is going on now, it's unfair.

:48:43. > :48:45.My opinion is that it's totally unfair.

:48:46. > :48:50.Russia says it will criminalise doping, but with the results dueof

:48:51. > :48:53.more retests of samples taken from London 2012, the country

:48:54. > :48:56.could well lose more medals and any remaining chance its athletes have

:48:57. > :49:01.of competing on sport's grandest stage.

:49:02. > :49:04.Let's speak now to Dr Tom Bassindale who is an anti-doping scientist

:49:05. > :49:11.He is in our Sheffield studio and in Berlin we have Hajo Seppelt,

:49:12. > :49:13.who is the man behind "The Doping Secret:

:49:14. > :49:16.He also made 'Doping - Top Secret: The Shadowy

:49:17. > :49:36.What's your reaction to the news that 14 athletes are Russian?

:49:37. > :49:43.Well the evidence is overwhelming that we have a state-sponsored

:49:44. > :49:53.system in Russia maybe since decades going on. The Russians have cheated

:49:54. > :49:59.and betrayed sport. From my point of view it is not unfair to exclude the

:50:00. > :50:04.Russians. I think it would be unfair to let them allow to compete.

:50:05. > :50:09.Because we are talking about a drug system, a doping system for years

:50:10. > :50:13.and many athletes have suffered from it in other countries and I think it

:50:14. > :50:18.would be fair now to exclude the Russians and to say very clearly

:50:19. > :50:23.that a state-run system means we cannot trust that athletes from this

:50:24. > :50:29.country are clean and so they have to be excluded. That is my opinion.

:50:30. > :50:35.If it is state -run as you talk about, are the numbers we are hear

:50:36. > :50:41.about quite small in terms of what you believe the picture to be? The

:50:42. > :50:46.picture is much bigger and we have documented that in our films and

:50:47. > :50:52.German television and we can talk about widespread doping and it is

:50:53. > :51:01.not only with athletics, but other sports and the famous whistle blower

:51:02. > :51:05.offered his video recordings for television in 2014. He was working

:51:06. > :51:13.for the Russian anti-doping agency and the name of the agency and it

:51:14. > :51:15.was not only responsible for athletics, but for all sports in

:51:16. > :51:24.Russia. He could report us and he athletics, but for all sports in

:51:25. > :51:30.up of doping, the doping itself, was more or less... Supported by some

:51:31. > :51:34.officials. We lost you for a moment. I'm going to bring in Tom. I think

:51:35. > :51:42.we have a couple of problems on your line. Is this unfairly tarnishing

:51:43. > :51:52.all Russian athletes? Well the evidence that was provided by the

:51:53. > :52:01.Stepanovs showed mass Corr cover up of the doping offences, the clip you

:52:02. > :52:06.played some 14 hundred samples were destroyed rather than analysed. So

:52:07. > :52:11.it shows a widespread use of doping. They have the highest number of

:52:12. > :52:17.athletes serving doping bans out of all of the international athletes

:52:18. > :52:19.currently. And you know this is 10 from the 2008 games additional

:52:20. > :52:27.tested positive. The results of 2012 retests are coming shortly as well.

:52:28. > :52:31.So it doesn't appear to be that unfair to suggest there is

:52:32. > :52:38.widespread doping. So do you think that there should be a Russian team

:52:39. > :52:42.at Rio? Well it is hard to imagine what more they need to do wrong

:52:43. > :52:49.before they're excluded from the games. After years of covers up and

:52:50. > :52:55.the laboratories not analysing the samples, or destroying them that we

:52:56. > :53:00.have heard about repeatedly and the tests being covered up, it is hard

:53:01. > :53:05.to see what more they need to do before they're not allowed to

:53:06. > :53:11.compete. Are things changing in Russia now a light has been shone? I

:53:12. > :53:16.don't think that big things have changed. They try their best some of

:53:17. > :53:21.them, some top officials, because they realise more and more that it

:53:22. > :53:26.will be a very hard decision. Maybe not in favour of the Russians. So

:53:27. > :53:35.they do their best what they can do to improve the situation. The

:53:36. > :53:41.decision that Russian ex-dopers will not be allowed to compete at Rio

:53:42. > :53:46.shows they want to solve the problem, at least some of them. But

:53:47. > :53:48.we don't talk about top officials, we talk about the whole country. It

:53:49. > :53:53.is the biggest country in the we talk about the whole country. It

:53:54. > :53:59.There is 10,000 athletes. We talk about a culture and a tradition of

:54:00. > :54:04.doping in that country for decades. To change that within a few months

:54:05. > :54:10.is impossible. I can tell you that, because I'm coming from Germany and

:54:11. > :54:22.in Germany we had a state-run system in east Germany in the 70s and 80s.

:54:23. > :54:27.It was a Prussian way and worked very well and it was maybe even

:54:28. > :54:33.worse than the Russian system which we experienced F you would have been

:54:34. > :54:38.aware in the 70s and 80s that the east Germans did it in this way,

:54:39. > :54:40.they should have been excluded also. I don't see any difference. Thank

:54:41. > :54:45.you very much for joining us. Have you decided how you're

:54:46. > :54:48.going to vote in the EU referendum? Well if you're still not sure

:54:49. > :54:51.whether to vote in or out - come along and take part in one

:54:52. > :54:54.of our big TV audience debates On 6th June we're in Manchester -

:54:55. > :54:58.that's just over a fortnight It's open to everyone's eligible

:54:59. > :55:01.to vote in the referendum and will take place in our normal

:55:02. > :55:04.airtime between 9am and 11 am. If you want to take part and can get

:55:05. > :55:08.to Manchester from wherever you are in the UK do

:55:09. > :55:10.email victoria@bbc.co.uk to have your chance to quiz

:55:11. > :55:12.and listen to senior politicians Watch out - there's a robot

:55:13. > :55:19.about to take your - There have been repeated warnings

:55:20. > :55:24.that technology could soon result in mass job-losses

:55:25. > :55:27.across the world's economy. But at the Innorobo exhibition

:55:28. > :55:31.in Paris this week, the focus is on so-called "Cobots" -

:55:32. > :55:34.who are altogether less threatening. Our technology guru

:55:35. > :55:47.Rory Cellan-Jones is there. Tell us what they are then Rory.

:55:48. > :55:52.Well, all sorts of robots here doing all sorts of things, but kind

:55:53. > :55:58.friendly things like there is up with being an estate agent. He runs

:55:59. > :56:05.this robot. Minimum amount I want to spend 50,000. You are looking to

:56:06. > :56:12.spend. I want to spend a million. Which area are you looking for a

:56:13. > :56:16.property. Reading. Nice. How many kilometres would you be willing to

:56:17. > :56:21.live from the centre? 25. Sounds good. Thank you. If you give me a

:56:22. > :56:26.moment I will show you the properties that match your criteria.

:56:27. > :56:34.She is going to show me a lot of properties. Why do we want to

:56:35. > :56:40.interact with a robot estate agent? This gives us an alternative method

:56:41. > :56:45.of helping a customer if a human assistant is not available. Are they

:56:46. > :56:50.friendly. I believe they're very friendly. I think people will enjoy

:56:51. > :56:58.interacting with them. This robot is Pepper. Julian, this is already in

:56:59. > :57:05.Japan, what is it going do, where will we see it. You will see Pepper

:57:06. > :57:08.in all customer locations, shops, transport, tourism, agent

:57:09. > :57:11.circumstances hotels, many locations in which Pepper can give information

:57:12. > :57:16.to customers or get information from them. What we are providing to

:57:17. > :57:22.physical locations is to way to compete with the internet. Pepper

:57:23. > :57:28.can deliver accurate information and collect a lot of information from

:57:29. > :57:33.you. And better adapt the customer journey and promote the right

:57:34. > :57:37.product. It is great in Japan, are we in Europe a bit suspicious of

:57:38. > :57:42.them. We are frightened of these thing and think they might take our

:57:43. > :57:46.jobs. People are not suspicious. What Pepper is doing is

:57:47. > :57:52.complementary so what people are doing actually. Pepper is not taking

:57:53. > :57:56.anybody's job. Pepper is doing repetitive things like greeting

:57:57. > :58:03.people in a store and doing always the same thing. OK. So that is

:58:04. > :58:05.Pepper. She can dance too. I won't dance with her. She is not a bad

:58:06. > :58:13.dancer though. Thank you very much.