02/06/2016

:00:08. > :00:09.Hello, it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:10. > :00:15.This morning - are mainstream schools failing children

:00:16. > :00:17.with special educational needs or disabilities?

:00:18. > :00:20.A new report claims many schools in England don't have the funding

:00:21. > :00:36.Parents will tell us their experiences. My son is a bright and

:00:37. > :00:39.capable boy who also has autism. With the right support he could

:00:40. > :00:43.succeed at secondary school mainstream but we have had to fight

:00:44. > :00:48.for everything and now he is not in school at all.

:00:49. > :00:50.I am really keen to hear your experiences this morning.

:00:51. > :00:52.Also on the programme - Johnny Depp's estranged wife

:00:53. > :00:54.has given a police statement about alleged domestic abuse -

:00:55. > :00:57.it's claimed in one incident the actor tried to smother

:00:58. > :00:58.Amber Heard with a pillow whilst drunk.

:00:59. > :01:01.He denies it all - we'll bring you the story.

:01:02. > :01:03.And, the extraordinary story of a baby swapped at birth

:01:04. > :01:08.We'll bring you the full interview with the parents who have finally

:01:09. > :01:10.been allowed to return home with their one-year-old son -

:01:11. > :01:12.having missed the first four months of his life.

:01:13. > :01:18.The thought that the baby I had been nursing, taken care of,

:01:19. > :01:26.loving him, bathing him, that he was not mine and then

:01:27. > :01:29.I had another thought which came with it -

:01:30. > :01:51.Throughout the programme we'll bring you the latest breaking news

:01:52. > :01:55.Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is due to give a speech after 10 this

:01:56. > :01:58.morning where he'll say the UK leaving the European Union would be

:01:59. > :02:01.a "disaster for the majority of people" in this country.

:02:02. > :02:08.Plus - we'll look at the extension to the Government's right to buy

:02:09. > :02:15.scheme which means people housing association tenants could

:02:16. > :02:18.scheme which means people, who are housing

:02:19. > :02:20.association tenants could have the right to buy their homes.

:02:21. > :02:25.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:02:26. > :02:28.use the hashtag VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:02:29. > :02:32.Our top story today - it's just three weeks

:02:33. > :02:34.until voters across the country will cast their ballot and decide

:02:35. > :02:37.whether or not to stay in or leave the European Union.

:02:38. > :02:40.This morning, Labour is being urged to do more to argue the case

:02:41. > :02:43.Party leader Jeremy Corbyn's been a less prominent voice

:02:44. > :02:46.in the campaign so far - but he's giving a key speech

:02:47. > :02:51.With us now is our political guru Norman Smith.

:02:52. > :02:57.Why is it important for the leader of the Labour Party to say what he

:02:58. > :03:03.really thinks about this issue? Because there is minor panic

:03:04. > :03:06.breaking out in the Remain campaign that many Labour voters are

:03:07. > :03:11.confused, uncertain and apathetic about what they should do in this

:03:12. > :03:16.referendum. We heard from one MP who has long-term Labour supporters

:03:17. > :03:20.bringing her up and saying, which way should I vote? There has been a

:03:21. > :03:24.view that Jeremy Corbyn has been sitting in his office, not getting

:03:25. > :03:30.out and about enough, trying to bang the drum for staying in the EU.

:03:31. > :03:35.Today, he will argue that the EU guarantees fast amounts of

:03:36. > :03:39.employment rights, things like equal pay, guaranteed holidays, protection

:03:40. > :03:45.for part-time workers, maternity workers, or guaranteed by the EU. If

:03:46. > :03:50.they pull out -- if we pull out, he warns all that could be at risk. But

:03:51. > :03:55.the concerns are huge. We heard from the new leader of the GMB Tim Roach

:03:56. > :03:57.this morning, he said unless Jeremy Corbyn does more then the referendum

:03:58. > :04:07.will be lost. My biggest concern is that Labour

:04:08. > :04:11.voters will stay at home and they will see it as a bunfight in the

:04:12. > :04:14.Tory party. Let's be clear. This is one of the biggest decisions that

:04:15. > :04:18.any of us will make in a generation and it will not just impact on

:04:19. > :04:24.myself and my three kids, but probably on their kids as well. I

:04:25. > :04:27.doubt there will be another vote like it in my lifetime. It may seem

:04:28. > :04:38.easy to say, let's get out of Europe and see what it brings, let's stay

:04:39. > :04:43.in. The other thing is Mr Corbyn has got to talk about immigration. For

:04:44. > :04:49.voters, it is a massive issue. Bluntly, we have had zilch from Mr

:04:50. > :04:54.Corbyn. I don't think he will be saying about it today either.

:04:55. > :04:57.The Leave side are saying a lot about immigration and former cabinet

:04:58. > :05:02.minister Iain Duncan Smith, another attack on Downing Street about

:05:03. > :05:07.immigration today? Guess, they have made this their centrepiece of the

:05:08. > :05:10.campaign. They want to make this referendum all about immigration it

:05:11. > :05:17.seems. Today, Iain Duncan Smith accusing Downing Street of treating

:05:18. > :05:25.voters with contempt, over their concerns about immigration and the

:05:26. > :05:29.effect on schools and hospitals. Polling suggests the majority of

:05:30. > :05:34.voters believe free movement of Labour, in other words, the free

:05:35. > :05:38.access migrants get to the UK, has damaged public services. My sense

:05:39. > :05:42.is, they will keep pushing and pushing and pushing on this, because

:05:43. > :05:48.they believe it is a strategy which is working for them. Thank you. As I

:05:49. > :05:50.said, we will hear some of Jeremy Corbyn's speech live after ten

:05:51. > :05:54.o'clock. Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:05:55. > :05:56.Newsroom with a summary A couple who were given

:05:57. > :06:01.the wrong baby by a hospital in El Salvador a year ago,

:06:02. > :06:04.are finally back home after a long fight to be reunited

:06:05. > :06:07.with the correct child. Richard Cushworth, who's British,

:06:08. > :06:08.and his wife Mercedes, were given a birth certificate

:06:09. > :06:10.for their son Moses They landed back home in Dallas,

:06:11. > :06:14.Texas this week and have been Mr Cushworth describes the moment

:06:15. > :06:29.he realised there had been The first trauma to me was, oh my

:06:30. > :06:35.goodness, I have a child and my child is somewhere out there in the

:06:36. > :06:41.world, where is he? Who is taking care of him? What happened to him?

:06:42. > :06:46.How did this happen? Am I ever going to see him again? I felt a panic

:06:47. > :06:50.that my only child was lost or stolen. I didn't know what it was.

:06:51. > :06:52.And you can see more of that exclusive interview

:06:53. > :06:55.At least five people have died after heavy flooding

:06:56. > :07:00.Rivers have burst their banks in France and Germany.

:07:01. > :07:03.Search teams in the Bavarian town of Simbach am Inn found the bodies

:07:04. > :07:06.of three people killed when they became trapped in a house

:07:07. > :07:11.In France, there're fears that water levels on the River Seine could rise

:07:12. > :07:12.further, threatening more towns and villages.

:07:13. > :07:17.This was the only way out for some who found themselves surrounded

:07:18. > :07:22.Heavy rain forced the river right through this town in Bavaria.

:07:23. > :07:26.Residents headed upstairs to escape the water,

:07:27. > :07:30.then they waited to be rescued by boat, if not by air.

:07:31. > :07:34.By night, they were assessing the damage and loss of life.

:07:35. > :07:40.Four people died in their homes, close to the Austrian border.

:07:41. > :07:43.TRANSLATION: There must have been flash floods where people had no

:07:44. > :07:48.Those on the first floor were lucky and got out,

:07:49. > :07:52.while unfortunately others did not make it.

:07:53. > :07:55.Parts of France have seen the same sorts of problems.

:07:56. > :08:06.An 86-year-old woman died when water rushed through her home.

:08:07. > :08:14.These houes have all been evacuated, says the fireman.

:08:15. > :08:17.It is only just possible to make out the murky shape of a car,

:08:18. > :08:23.TRANSLATION: It's a challenge, because those places will need

:08:24. > :08:28.It is difficult, but there is a sense of solidarity.

:08:29. > :08:38.While thousands have been put into boats and moved,

:08:39. > :08:41.in the French capital, trips on the river were cancelled

:08:42. > :08:47.In just over a week, this country hosts

:08:48. > :08:57.There is clearing up to do, and there's more rain to come.

:08:58. > :08:59.Our Europe correspondent James Reynolds is by

:09:00. > :09:10.James, just put this in context and give us a sense of how much the

:09:11. > :09:15.river has risen? You can see from behind me how much the river has

:09:16. > :09:21.risen and I can see why trips have been cancelled because boats won't

:09:22. > :09:25.be able to make it under the bridges like the one behind me. The waters

:09:26. > :09:31.have reached such as height. This capital is under a yellow alert.

:09:32. > :09:36.There are eight areas on a higher orange alert. Two areas or under red

:09:37. > :09:40.alert. The authorities in Paris say they do have the situation under

:09:41. > :09:47.control. They have a plan which would siphon off floodwater in case

:09:48. > :09:49.rains continue here. Thank you. James Reynolds in Paris for us.

:09:50. > :09:52.A decision on the future of the high street retailer BHS

:09:53. > :09:56.The company went into administration in April, a year after it was sold

:09:57. > :10:00.If no buyer is found, BHS could be forced

:10:01. > :10:09.into liquidation with the loss of eleven thousand jobs.

:10:10. > :10:12.More allegations of domestic abuse have emerged in the troubled

:10:13. > :10:13.marriage of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

:10:14. > :10:18.The actor is denying all the allegations.

:10:19. > :10:21.It's been claimed that Depp has attacked his wife at least

:10:22. > :10:23.three times, including one occasion where he reportedly tried

:10:24. > :10:25.to smother her with a pillow while drunk.

:10:26. > :10:28.Amber Heard said in court papers that she feared for her life.

:10:29. > :10:31.An audio recording of an emergency call made by a mother whose son fell

:10:32. > :11:01.into a gorilla enclosure at Cincinnati Zoo has been released.

:11:02. > :11:03.Shortly after that call was made the zoo shot

:11:04. > :11:05.Harambe the gorilla dead, sparking global outrage.

:11:06. > :11:07.The parents of the three-year-old have released a statement

:11:08. > :11:10.saying their son is recovering well, but they could now face

:11:11. > :11:17.criminal charges as police investigate the incident.

:11:18. > :11:21.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30 am.

:11:22. > :11:31.Thank you. In the next few minutes, we will talk to parents of children

:11:32. > :11:36.with specialist educational needs who say mainstream schools are

:11:37. > :11:40.failing them. Quite a few have got in touch already. Naomi said

:11:41. > :11:45.mainstream has failed my son for the last five years, and the local

:11:46. > :11:49.special educational needs or disabilities department just

:11:50. > :11:54.cancelled a meeting twice in a row without good reason. Our son is not

:11:55. > :11:59.in school because nowhere can meet his needs. The local education

:12:00. > :12:03.authority could not care less. Our son stands little chance of getting

:12:04. > :12:08.any meaningful qualifications as a result of their failure, and will

:12:09. > :12:13.likely to end up not in education, employment or training.

:12:14. > :12:18.Another person said mainstream is failing my grandson big-time. I

:12:19. > :12:24.cannot get him the help he so needs and he is almost ten.

:12:25. > :12:27.That is clearly striking a chord. Do get in touch. Time for some sport

:12:28. > :12:31.now with Hugh. Good morning. Andy Murray says he

:12:32. > :12:36.believes he can win the French Open and he will be giving everything to

:12:37. > :12:41.do so, after he set up a semifinal meeting with the defending champion

:12:42. > :12:47.Stan Wawrinka. Murray came through in four sets against Richard

:12:48. > :12:52.Gasquet. He was inspired by his home crowd in Paris. He took five

:12:53. > :12:57.consecutive games to take it 7-5. The first two sets taking nearly two

:12:58. > :13:10.hours but Murray came through in less than half that time. My last

:13:11. > :13:15.opponent was even Karlovic. There were not many long rallies there. It

:13:16. > :13:20.is a different way of playing. With Richard you have to be more patient

:13:21. > :13:29.and rallies are longer. It was tough. I managed at the right

:13:30. > :13:38.moment. Top seed Novak Djokovic is a match behind Murray. He beat Spain's

:13:39. > :13:44.Roberto Bicester -- Roberto Bettis to add it. Poor weather also delayed

:13:45. > :13:52.Serena Williams' fourth-round match from Monday until yesterday, but she

:13:53. > :13:57.cruised 6-1, 6-1, against Elina Svitolina.

:13:58. > :14:09.Portugal take on Wembley in their final warm up match -- Portugal take

:14:10. > :14:14.on France. Cristiano Ronaldo will not feature for Portugal after he

:14:15. > :14:21.was granted time off following Real Madrid's Champions League victory.

:14:22. > :14:34.We are happy with the two opponents we have had so far.

:14:35. > :14:39.We will come away satisfied with what we have done and I can be

:14:40. > :14:44.satisfied with what I have seen, and I have to say the three preparation

:14:45. > :14:48.games have served their purpose. Royal Troon is to hold a special

:14:49. > :14:53.meeting at the beginning of July two proposed the introduction of female

:14:54. > :14:56.members. The club is the host for this year's open which takes place

:14:57. > :15:04.later that month. Last month, near Field's members voted not to admit

:15:05. > :15:09.women knowing they would not be able to host the Open Championship.

:15:10. > :15:13.Great Britain's female junior gymnasts have won silver medal in

:15:14. > :15:23.Switzerland. The team finished second behind Russia. Britain's

:15:24. > :15:26.female senior gymnasts get their competition underway later today.

:15:27. > :15:31.Just before we go, some breaking news in the last few minutes.

:15:32. > :15:35.Manchester City have announced they have signed a Borussia Dortmund

:15:36. > :15:41.player on a four-year contract. More on that later.

:15:42. > :15:45.Are mainstream schools failing children with special educational

:15:46. > :15:49.Really keen to hear your own experiences this morning.

:15:50. > :15:53.20 months ago the government changed the way those pupils

:15:54. > :15:55.are funded through school - the Department for Education

:15:56. > :16:00.called these reforms "the biggest in a generation."

:16:01. > :16:02.It introduced personalised education, health and care plans

:16:03. > :16:04.which would support children through to adulthood.

:16:05. > :16:06.Now, a survey of more than a thousand head teachers

:16:07. > :16:08.in England has found schools are strapped for cash

:16:09. > :16:10.and the education of children with special needs

:16:11. > :16:15.More than eight in ten mainstream schools across England do not have

:16:16. > :16:17.sufficient funding adequately to provide for pupils with special

:16:18. > :16:25.Almost nine in ten of school leaders think initial teacher training does

:16:26. > :16:31.not adequately prepare teachers to support those pupils.

:16:32. > :16:34.And three-quarters of schools have pupils who have been waiting longer

:16:35. > :16:36.than the expected time for an assessment of special

:16:37. > :16:45.educational needs or an education, health and care plan.

:16:46. > :16:47.Let's talk to Tania Tirraoro and her 16-year-old son Giorgio.

:16:48. > :16:50.Giorgio and his brother are autistic and were taken out of mainstream

:16:51. > :16:56.Renata Blower's here with her three children.

:16:57. > :17:03.Elliot is 13, Lilia is 11 and Dominic is 9.

:17:04. > :17:05.Dominic's in a mainstream primary school and enjoys it,

:17:06. > :17:12.but Elliot who has autism, OCD and anxiety problems has stopped

:17:13. > :17:18.going to his secondary school altogether.

:17:19. > :17:24.year old disabled son in the mainstream system.

:17:25. > :17:27.He thinks schools find it easier to cope with physical disability

:17:28. > :17:56.Tanya, Giorgio and Aluko have autism, and you move them out of

:17:57. > :18:00.primary school. Giorgio found it difficult to go to school, he was

:18:01. > :18:04.very bright, he could read at the age of three, but they placed him in

:18:05. > :18:08.remedial English because he had writing difficulties, so instead of

:18:09. > :18:12.supporting him with his intellectual peers, they put him down with the

:18:13. > :18:17.children that he didn't want to go to, and one child came to me and

:18:18. > :18:23.said they had to drag him to the lesson because he didn't want to go.

:18:24. > :18:29.That is really not right. Did they have to drag you, Giorgio? Yes, I

:18:30. > :18:35.felt in that class I wasn't really being challenged, and there was a

:18:36. > :18:40.lot of work that I just found was below me or in a lot of cases was

:18:41. > :18:48.too difficult. There was never an in between where I could be at the same

:18:49. > :18:51.pace with my peers. I find that there is a lot more accept vents,

:18:52. > :19:11.and in classroom support. There are a lot of people who have

:19:12. > :19:16.similar issues that you can relate to, and the support, you don't in a

:19:17. > :19:23.lot of cases feel it is there, but when you do, you definitely notice

:19:24. > :19:29.it. So you don't feel out of place, and there are people like you there?

:19:30. > :19:32.And they have small classes, ten or 11, and there is on-site

:19:33. > :19:41.occupational therapy, and speech and language therapy. They just know the

:19:42. > :19:48.boys in and out, as well. Let me bring in all the children here, and

:19:49. > :19:51.Renata as well. Manik is in mainstream primary school, he has an

:19:52. > :20:02.undiagnosed genetic condition, and you enjoy school, don't you? Kenny

:20:03. > :20:10.Thalys Wyre? -- can you tell us why. They are very good at including me

:20:11. > :20:22.and they make me feel like I am normal, and also, I have got really

:20:23. > :20:31.good one-to-one s who are good at assisting me with work and medical

:20:32. > :20:44.needs. But I think Elliott, he is not at school, you didn't really

:20:45. > :20:52.like main stream secondary school, can you tell us why? It is very

:20:53. > :21:06.crowded, you can very rarely be alone, and they don't let... There

:21:07. > :21:21.is constant crowding, you can never be alone. And the teachers didn't

:21:22. > :21:27.understand your specific needs. I get teaching assistants, but they

:21:28. > :21:30.are not specialised with me, and because I can't pay attention very

:21:31. > :21:36.well, I am mostly taught by them instead of the teacher. OK. From

:21:37. > :21:41.your point of view, the mainstream secondary school, state school, yes

:21:42. > :21:44.there will be 30 kids in that class, but Elliott should be able to get an

:21:45. > :21:49.all right there, because there should be specialist trained staff

:21:50. > :21:53.to help him in a one-to-one situation, similar to your younger

:21:54. > :21:59.son. One of the difficulties with Elliott is he is a very bright, so

:22:00. > :22:03.when a school hasn't got much of a budget, and they have a lot of

:22:04. > :22:06.children to look after, a childlike Elliott who even without the support

:22:07. > :22:11.isn't going to fail so much that inspectors will ask why, they are

:22:12. > :22:15.quite easy to miss. But it means you have a child who is perfectly

:22:16. > :22:18.capable of being in a mainstream school with the right support then

:22:19. > :22:24.becomes so anxious that he can't even attend school, and it is a

:22:25. > :22:27.disaster for everyone, because he should be able to be included within

:22:28. > :22:32.a mainstream school, it is simply a case of having the right resources

:22:33. > :22:34.when he needs it at a very vulnerable time when he is

:22:35. > :22:38.transitioning from primary to secondary school, just for that

:22:39. > :22:43.school to be able to have the resources to hand in order to be

:22:44. > :22:47.able to support the children, and he can go on to be an independent

:22:48. > :22:52.adult, but now we face a situation where he can't even go to school.

:22:53. > :22:58.What do they do right at his secondary state school? They were as

:22:59. > :23:01.innovative as they possibly could be within the resources they had

:23:02. > :23:08.available. So where it wasn't a money issue, they did things like,

:23:09. > :23:11.he helped with the sound at the school production to try to getting

:23:12. > :23:14.more involved in school life, and they found a teacher he really got

:23:15. > :23:20.on with who he could go and spend time with, things like that, cost

:23:21. > :23:24.free, and they were brilliant and we are appreciative of them. The issues

:23:25. > :23:28.arose around the more costly interventions like support in the

:23:29. > :23:34.classroom and the things that actually schools do need help with.

:23:35. > :23:43.Because they said they didn't have the money to do it? It was more that

:23:44. > :23:45.Elliott's needs were overlooked. My belief is perhaps because they

:23:46. > :23:50.couldn't afford it, they would rather say the needs didn't exist

:23:51. > :23:58.rather than admit that they couldn't meet them. That is your take on it.

:23:59. > :24:01.Alex says, I am 19, and the best support I had from a special

:24:02. > :24:06.educational needs was my year six teacher, the last year of primary

:24:07. > :24:11.school. I was given little or no help after that until I left year

:24:12. > :24:17.13. Deb says we couldn't find a school that could meet my daughter's

:24:18. > :24:22.needs and we are home educating. And Stefanie says, schools failed my

:24:23. > :24:29.sister who has cystic fibrosis. She wasn't supported in hospital and she

:24:30. > :24:34.left school with no GCSEs. And Jeb is saying that she agrees with what

:24:35. > :24:39.you were saying, Giorgio. My son also found greater acceptance within

:24:40. > :24:44.a specialist setting, plus friends who were like-minded, which is

:24:45. > :24:51.exactly your point. Doug, tell us about your son Ben. He has a

:24:52. > :24:56.condition called spinal muscular atrophy, it is clear and obvious he

:24:57. > :25:03.has a physical disability, he drives an electric wheelchair, and it is

:25:04. > :25:06.easy to identify his needs, so when you think about special educational

:25:07. > :25:11.needs or an educational health care plan, it is relatively easy to be

:25:12. > :25:18.able to establish what needs to be done in a school setting to support

:25:19. > :25:21.him. And so in that respect we have been lucky to be able to get the

:25:22. > :25:27.right support around him in the school setting and outside to ensure

:25:28. > :25:35.that he can essentially reach the curriculum. Because of that, he is

:25:36. > :25:40.thriving in school. He is included in all the lessons, he can access

:25:41. > :25:44.everywhere in the school, and that is good. Of course there are

:25:45. > :25:49.problems, there always are, but because of the open, sometimes very

:25:50. > :25:55.frank but honest conversations that we have with the school, we are able

:25:56. > :25:59.to move him forward. So are you saying the approach of the school is

:26:00. > :26:05.absolutely spot on, or are you saying it is different when it is a

:26:06. > :26:08.child with a physical disability as opposed to a learning disability or

:26:09. > :26:12.a special educational needs? I think I do sense that there is a

:26:13. > :26:19.difference. It is because of the visibility, and I do sense that some

:26:20. > :26:23.educators, people in schools, whether teaching assistants or

:26:24. > :26:31.teachers, possibly don't intervene early enough with children with

:26:32. > :26:34.learning disabilities or who are struggling for whatever reason in

:26:35. > :26:39.the school setting because of the challenges they face. What do you

:26:40. > :26:44.think of that theory, Tanya? I think it is a training issue. Many

:26:45. > :26:49.children who don't have an education, health and care plan,

:26:50. > :26:53.there is a nominal ?6,000 per child with special educational needs, but

:26:54. > :26:58.it is not ring fenced for each child but worked out with some complicated

:26:59. > :27:03.funding formula, and their needs are supposed to be helped within that.

:27:04. > :27:08.And there is the local offer, which was as a result of the children and

:27:09. > :27:13.families act where it is supposed to have all these services for children

:27:14. > :27:17.with educational needs and disabilities, which schools can look

:27:18. > :27:21.at and use and be innovative, but I don't think it is working

:27:22. > :27:25.particularly well at the moment. Children with an education, health

:27:26. > :27:31.and care plan have their own budget, because that is supposed to be

:27:32. > :27:36.worked out as part of their needs. So you need that plan, it triggers

:27:37. > :27:41.the money. And that is where the issues are coming, because of the

:27:42. > :27:44.changes, local authority staff haven't been trained properly,

:27:45. > :27:49.schools haven't been trained properly. And this is what this

:27:50. > :27:52.survey is suggesting today, it is backing up your own experience, more

:27:53. > :27:57.than two thirds of schools in England saying children with special

:27:58. > :28:03.educational needs and disabilities are being let and by mainstream

:28:04. > :28:07.education. In terms of Elliott's education, you haven't been to

:28:08. > :28:11.schools and Easter, is that right? Because it was becoming too much,

:28:12. > :28:15.how would you describe it? His anxiety levels started as soon as he

:28:16. > :28:19.transitioned to secondary school, so in primary school he was well

:28:20. > :28:26.supported, but you have one teacher, one class, and so teachers can make

:28:27. > :28:30.those adaptations within the school, but in secondary school you have

:28:31. > :28:33.multiple teachers, so you either need a culture within the school

:28:34. > :28:40.where there is understanding throughout, or you need a school

:28:41. > :28:45.where you have specialist staff who are teaching, and as Tanya said, the

:28:46. > :28:51.training is a real issue, especially where, as dog was saying where a

:28:52. > :28:56.child like Dominic is obviously disabled, it is difficult for anyone

:28:57. > :29:00.to deny the fact that he has a disability, whereas with Elliott, he

:29:01. > :29:06.is an incredibly articulate boy, it is quite easy to be another say he

:29:07. > :29:10.is absolutely fine because he is making academic progress. So what

:29:11. > :29:16.are you going to do in terms of where he will go to school? This is

:29:17. > :29:21.where again the system lets us down, because there is no specialist

:29:22. > :29:24.schools that he can go to that are mainstream schools. There is nowhere

:29:25. > :29:31.anywhere near us that can actually meet his needs, with the exception,

:29:32. > :29:33.we found one independent school, and obviously independent schools are

:29:34. > :29:37.expensive, so I know we have a tribunal had a bus in order to be

:29:38. > :29:41.able to get funding for him to go to that school and get an education,

:29:42. > :29:47.and that is adding another year to him being out of school, which does

:29:48. > :29:51.him no good at all. And this is what the reforms were supposed to stop

:29:52. > :29:57.happening. They were supposed to put the child and family at the centre,

:29:58. > :30:04.and not the resources driven, but be needs driven by the child, but

:30:05. > :30:08.budget does come into it somewhere. It is a utopian vision, which is

:30:09. > :30:17.fantastic. The whole idea of the reforms, fantastic. There wasn't

:30:18. > :30:25.enough time to training, and money only goes so far. It is being

:30:26. > :30:29.chipped away by budget cuts. Lilia, you are about to go to the school

:30:30. > :30:34.that Elliott has been not going to since Easter. How does that make you

:30:35. > :30:44.feel? Because you have had such a difficult time with battling with

:30:45. > :30:52.the school, with Elliott's needs, I kind of a bit worried that, because

:30:53. > :30:58.I have to go in, and I'm his sister, that they will think, it is another

:30:59. > :31:07.one of them. Do you really think that

:31:08. > :31:17.we have been pitched against the school, and we should be working

:31:18. > :31:20.together, that is what we have always wanted, we have a long

:31:21. > :31:23.relationship with the staff there, and we know that they want the best

:31:24. > :31:28.Elliott, but the system is forcing us to go head dead against them in a

:31:29. > :31:33.tribunal, and it has relationships apart, so it is really awkward, and

:31:34. > :31:37.as nice as you want to be, the end of the day you are fighting tooth

:31:38. > :31:41.and nail for your child, so it does get ugly sometimes, and siblings are

:31:42. > :31:45.affected, too, because I'm sure they would treat Lilia fantastically, and

:31:46. > :31:46.I'm confident they will, but I understand why she would be

:31:47. > :32:04.concerned. Judging by the messages I am

:32:05. > :32:08.receiving, what you are experiencing is representative. Thank you all for

:32:09. > :32:10.coming on the programme, very nice to meet you.

:32:11. > :32:18.More claims of domestic violence from Johnny Depp's

:32:19. > :32:22.She says he tried to smother her with a pillow.

:32:23. > :32:33.We will bring the reaction from Women's Aid.

:32:34. > :32:36.As housing association tenants get the right to buy their homes,

:32:37. > :32:39.questions are raised as to where the money to pay for it

:32:40. > :32:52.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:32:53. > :32:58.Good morning. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn will make a speech

:32:59. > :33:05.shortly setting out why he believes the UK should remain in the EU. He

:33:06. > :33:09.has been urged to do more in the campaign. Downing Street has been

:33:10. > :33:11.accused of showing contempt for voters over the impact of

:33:12. > :33:14.immigration. A couple who were given

:33:15. > :33:16.the wrong baby by a hospital in El Salvador a year ago,

:33:17. > :33:19.are finally back home after a long fight to be reunited

:33:20. > :33:21.with the correct child. Richard Cushworth, who's British,

:33:22. > :33:23.and his wife Mercedes, were given a birth certificate

:33:24. > :33:25.for their son Moses They landed back home in Dallas,

:33:26. > :33:29.Texas this week and have been The first trauma to me was,

:33:30. > :33:36.oh my goodness, I have a child and my child is somewhere out

:33:37. > :33:40.there in the world, where is he? I felt a panic that my only child

:33:41. > :33:56.was lost or stolen. And you can see more

:33:57. > :34:01.of that exclusive interview At least five people have died

:34:02. > :34:05.after heavy flooding Search teams in the Bavarian town

:34:06. > :34:12.of Simbach am Inn found the bodies of three people killed

:34:13. > :34:15.when they became trapped in a house In France, there're fears that water

:34:16. > :34:19.levels on the River Seine could rise further, threatening more

:34:20. > :34:22.towns and villages. A decision on the future

:34:23. > :34:24.of the high street retailer BHS The company went into

:34:25. > :34:30.administration in April. If no buyer is found,

:34:31. > :34:33.BHS could be forced into liquidation with the loss

:34:34. > :34:40.of eleven thousand jobs. An audio recording of an emergency

:34:41. > :34:44.call made by a mother whose son fell into a gorilla enclosure

:34:45. > :35:12.at Cincinnati Zoo has been released. Shortly after that call

:35:13. > :35:14.was made, the zoo shot Harambe the gorilla dead,

:35:15. > :35:15.sparking global outrage. The parents of the three-year-old

:35:16. > :35:18.have released a statement saying their son is recovering well,

:35:19. > :35:20.but they could now face criminal charges as police

:35:21. > :35:26.investigate the incident. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:35:27. > :35:39.News - more at 10.00. Good morning. John McEnroe has told

:35:40. > :35:46.the BBC that Andy Murray is playing his best ever tennis on clay. He set

:35:47. > :35:53.up a semifinal meeting with Stan Wawrinka. Yesterday, he beat Richard

:35:54. > :35:57.Gasquet four sets. England take on Portugal at Wembley

:35:58. > :36:04.tonight. The visitors without Cristiano Ronaldo. He is holidaying

:36:05. > :36:14.in IB is that after -- I be the after Real Madrid won the Champions

:36:15. > :36:18.League. And finally, Royal Troon is holding

:36:19. > :36:23.a special meeting at the beginning of July to proposed the introduction

:36:24. > :36:28.of female members. The golf club is to host this year's Open

:36:29. > :36:34.Championship. Muirfield members voted not to accept women knowing

:36:35. > :36:37.that the course could not host the open. I am back in the next hour.

:36:38. > :36:40.Thank you. In 1980, the then Conservative Prime

:36:41. > :36:42.Minister Margaret Thatcher introduced "right to buy" allowing

:36:43. > :36:44.people who live Last year the current Conservative

:36:45. > :36:56.Prime Minister, David Cameron, announced an extension of that

:36:57. > :36:58.right-to-buy scheme. Housing association tenants

:36:59. > :37:00.will get the chance to buy But as the first housing

:37:01. > :37:03.association properties are about to go under hammer,

:37:04. > :37:05.questions are being raised as to where the money to pay for it

:37:06. > :37:09.all is going to come from. 30 years ago, the British government

:37:10. > :37:20.was the biggest landlord in Europe. Today, it houses

:37:21. > :37:22.relatively few of us. And that's because of

:37:23. > :37:26.what happened right here. You almost certainly

:37:27. > :37:27.won't recognise this street but here in Essex,

:37:28. > :37:29.about 30 years ago, It was actually the biggest

:37:30. > :37:35.privatisation in British history. And I'm not talking

:37:36. > :37:37.about electricity or gas, but the sale of

:37:38. > :37:39.British Council houses. Actually the first one was just

:37:40. > :37:44.here at the end of this street, sold for ?8,000, all

:37:45. > :37:46.the way back in 1980. As luck would have it, it's just

:37:47. > :37:50.been sold again, the ?260,000. Somewhere along the line,

:37:51. > :37:53.a lot of people made a lot of money from something that used

:37:54. > :37:55.to belong to all of us. And now the latest chapter

:37:56. > :37:58.in this Right to Buy story is about to start all over again,

:37:59. > :38:01.probably in a street near you. I've looked at the other

:38:02. > :38:03.councils in the UK. I mean, I've looked down in Essex,

:38:04. > :38:06.I've looked at Essex Council, I've looked at Waltham Forest,

:38:07. > :38:09.which is where I used to live. And the same thing again, 25,

:38:10. > :38:11.30 year waiting lists. The Government talks

:38:12. > :38:13.about a one-to-one replacement but currently there is only a one

:38:14. > :38:15.in eight replacement. So the Government would need

:38:16. > :38:23.to drastically change its approach. Channelling his inner

:38:24. > :38:25.Margaret Thatcher, David Cameron announced last

:38:26. > :38:27.year that the government was going to extend Right to Buy

:38:28. > :38:29.to housing association tenants. Remember, Right to Buy is a scheme

:38:30. > :38:32.where the Government offers big discounts to council

:38:33. > :38:34.tenants to buy their homes. Now housing association tenants

:38:35. > :38:37.will enjoy the same opportunity. The first sales are expected

:38:38. > :38:41.imminently. The problem is, unlike council

:38:42. > :38:46.houses, the Government doesn't own these homes so as to compensate

:38:47. > :38:48.the So how does the Government

:38:49. > :38:57.suggest we pay for them? That's why Conservatives have

:38:58. > :39:02.committed to building a property owning democracy for generations

:39:03. > :39:06.and today I can tell you what this generation of Conservatives

:39:07. > :39:08.is going to do about it. As the most expensive council

:39:09. > :39:12.properties fall vacant, we're going to require councils

:39:13. > :39:15.to sell them off and we will replace them with new, affordable

:39:16. > :39:18.housing in the same area. However, now we know

:39:19. > :39:20.how the legislation And there may be two

:39:21. > :39:28.important snags. Starting with the so-called

:39:29. > :39:31."Expensive council house sell offs". Now, you might imagine that

:39:32. > :39:33.when the Government says they are going to force councils

:39:34. > :39:36.to sell off their most expensive properties, they might look

:39:37. > :39:39.something a bit like this one. Whereas in fact, it will also be

:39:40. > :39:41.selling houses like this. This is in Southwark

:39:42. > :39:43.in south London. This one was sold as soon

:39:44. > :39:56.as it became vacant by the council to fund the sale

:39:57. > :39:59.of housing association properties. And that's because the law says that

:40:00. > :40:01.every council up and down the country has to sell

:40:02. > :40:08.off their more expensive homes. That money is then divvied up,

:40:09. > :40:11.put into a pot and given to the housing associations

:40:12. > :40:13.to compensate them. The problem is if you don't have

:40:14. > :40:16.houses like this, many councils will have to sell houses a bit

:40:17. > :40:19.like that one over there. The original intention was that some

:40:20. > :40:21.expensive council houses in London would be sold off and this

:40:22. > :40:24.would make a difference. During the passage of this act,

:40:25. > :40:27.the Government change the definition to what's called

:40:28. > :40:29."Higher value properties". We've estimated that is ?26 million

:40:30. > :40:32.worth of homes per council It's two-bedroom properties

:40:33. > :40:40.in the West Midlands, in Dudley... It's not big, fancy homes in London,

:40:41. > :40:44.it's homes all across the country. This city is undergoing

:40:45. > :40:46.a construction boom. You can see it on the

:40:47. > :40:49.skyline behind me. Development of every shape and size,

:40:50. > :40:54.commercial, business, residential. But one type of development you're

:40:55. > :40:57.unlikely to see And that's a big problem,

:40:58. > :41:00.because the Government said that every home lost under this

:41:01. > :41:02.new scheme would be replaced Unfortunately, on the basis

:41:03. > :41:06.of their current record, This is state was a recently built

:41:07. > :41:14.by Haringey Council and a housing association in north

:41:15. > :41:17.London as a mixture of social rent The council there fears this

:41:18. > :41:23.new legislation means it may have to be sold off and it

:41:24. > :41:25.wouldn't be replaced. As the funding system works,

:41:26. > :41:27.it's simply impossible for us to replace them and to an extent

:41:28. > :41:30.nationally, one in eight We think the Government should cut

:41:31. > :41:35.the red tape and let councils build. It's hard to replace Right to Buy

:41:36. > :41:38.properties because of Government rules, which means that councils

:41:39. > :41:41.have to put up most of the money. You can't use Right to Buy

:41:42. > :41:43.with any other grant, That really restricts the homes

:41:44. > :41:49.you can build. And this is a problem,

:41:50. > :41:58.because if we assume that we need to sell around 113,000 council

:41:59. > :42:00.houses to compensate and only one in eight are replaced,

:42:01. > :42:04.we will lose around 100,000 When you consider we have nearly

:42:05. > :42:09.2 million people on the council housing waiting list,

:42:10. > :42:11.those are houses She lost her job, the home she owned

:42:12. > :42:19.and now faces eviction For 30 years I was in

:42:20. > :42:23.full-time employment. Having to sell the house

:42:24. > :42:28.was the worst thing that could happen to me,

:42:29. > :42:31.I had my car repossessed, And now at a time when I really need

:42:32. > :42:37.help, I didn't even approach the council back then,

:42:38. > :42:40.I just went for private let. But now I really do need the help

:42:41. > :42:47.and it's just not there. She's been told by her local

:42:48. > :42:49.authority she will have I do think that given my situation

:42:50. > :42:55.and the fact that I do have a disability, it would have

:42:56. > :43:00.been taken into consideration. But basically the lady I spoke

:43:01. > :43:02.to was There wasn't any option

:43:03. > :43:05.she could actually offer. You must have been quite scared

:43:06. > :43:07.during this whole experience, When I knew I was going to lose

:43:08. > :43:13.the house, I went into I just couldn't pull myself up

:43:14. > :43:16.out of it. At one point, I actually

:43:17. > :43:19.came close to suicide, There's going to be people like me

:43:20. > :43:25.in a situation where you've lost your home for whatever reason,

:43:26. > :43:27.you are on low income, So there needs to be something

:43:28. > :43:32.in place to help They are not dealing

:43:33. > :43:41.with it from the bottom up. This brings us to the

:43:42. > :43:43.second apparent snag. Even if we assume the government can

:43:44. > :43:46.replace those council houses, And will they even be council

:43:47. > :43:51.homes at all? There is no guarantee that these

:43:52. > :43:56.will be replaced like-for-like. What is most likely to happen

:43:57. > :43:59.is they will be replaced The minimum value, probably in most

:44:00. > :44:04.places, between ?250,000 outside So this is a sell-off of reasonable,

:44:05. > :44:10.good, affordable homes to pay for homes to buy which most

:44:11. > :44:20.people can't afford. In the 1980s, Right to Buy

:44:21. > :44:22.transformed the lives of millions of people who had never had

:44:23. > :44:26.the chance to own their own homes. In its newest guise,

:44:27. > :44:27.hundreds of thousands of housing association tenants

:44:28. > :44:33.will do the same. But now we know that the nuts

:44:34. > :44:36.and bolts of Right to Buy mark 2, questions are being asked

:44:37. > :44:38.about whether this new policy will make the biggest social housing

:44:39. > :44:50.crisis in 70 years worse still. We asked the Government

:44:51. > :44:53.to talk to us about this issue this morning -

:44:54. > :44:56.but they declined. In a statement the housing minister

:44:57. > :45:13.Brandon Lewis told us: Do get in touch with your own

:45:14. > :45:15.experiences this morning - we'll get more reaction to this

:45:16. > :45:22.after 10.15am this morning. Families having to eat grass

:45:23. > :45:25.to survive, thousands of children being used as human shields,

:45:26. > :45:28.medicines, drinking water and food in short supply -

:45:29. > :45:33.with a bag of flour costing around 850 dollars - details are emerging

:45:34. > :45:38.of the horrifying conditions faced by civilians trapped

:45:39. > :45:41.inside the Iraqi city of Falluja. Aid agencies have described

:45:42. > :45:45.the situation as a "human catastrophe" with around fifty

:45:46. > :45:56.thousand people trapped. Falluja has been under siege

:45:57. > :45:58.from Iraqi and pro-government forces for more than six months,

:45:59. > :46:09.and it has been under IS control The latest massive assault by the

:46:10. > :46:12.Iraqi army has intensified the appalling conditions.

:46:13. > :46:15.Let's talk to Dr Bernardita Gaspar from the International Medical Corps

:46:16. > :46:26.who has been speaking with people in these camps.

:46:27. > :46:34.Tell us some of the stories you have been hearing. Good morning. I am

:46:35. > :46:42.from the International medical Corps, and I have just come from

:46:43. > :46:49.Baghdad. In one of the camps, I met with a mother who was telling me

:46:50. > :46:58.that at the time, the reason that they fled Falluja was that her

:46:59. > :47:08.husband was being recruited to work for the Isis, and her husband

:47:09. > :47:12.refused. They had at that time a four-year-old son who saw his father

:47:13. > :47:26.died, killed and their house burned down. He is now six, and when we saw

:47:27. > :47:32.him, he was withdrawn. He doesn't really play with other children his

:47:33. > :47:41.age. And the reason why we met him was that he was approached Oracene

:47:42. > :47:49.by one of our workers, our social workers in one of the locations that

:47:50. > :47:53.we work in Baghdad. So he witnessed his father being killed because his

:47:54. > :48:01.dad refused to fight for Islamic State? Exactly, yes. So now he is

:48:02. > :48:13.the only male in the family. He has his mother and two younger sisters,

:48:14. > :48:19.and his mother who they have said would always cry most of the time,

:48:20. > :48:32.his grandmother. And he would cry with her. And most of the time, we

:48:33. > :48:39.have people who we see, who we encounter with these memories with

:48:40. > :48:53.them. That they usually have to live with everyday. I wonder how you can

:48:54. > :48:58.help such traumatised people. We deploy a mobile team, this mobile

:48:59. > :49:06.team is supported by the European Commission for humanitarian aid and

:49:07. > :49:12.civilian protection. This mobile unit is composed of medical doctors,

:49:13. > :49:28.nurses, pharmacists and also social workers. So basically, we help and

:49:29. > :49:33.send social workers into places where these families have been

:49:34. > :49:41.accommodated in unfinished buildings or in camp is. And in trying to

:49:42. > :49:47.escape from the horrors of Falluja to get to the camps, how difficult

:49:48. > :49:52.is that for them? I would imagine that it is quite difficult,

:49:53. > :50:02.especially since coming from Falluja or anywhere where Isis have overrun

:50:03. > :50:09.the place, they themselves are subject did to security assessment,

:50:10. > :50:25.security checks, so it is unlike other places where families would

:50:26. > :50:31.come and would have the ability to walk through. They would usually

:50:32. > :50:40.have to be searched, men would be separated from women and from

:50:41. > :50:45.children, just so that the security forces will have to make sure that

:50:46. > :50:57.none of the Isis would come with these families, so that is how, the

:50:58. > :51:06.reality that they have to content with when fleeing Falluja or areas

:51:07. > :51:09.where Isis have taken over. And what about the conditions in the camps

:51:10. > :51:21.where they arrive? What is the reality of that? At some point, they

:51:22. > :51:27.would have to wait for some time, sometimes a day, so they can have

:51:28. > :51:31.their own place. They would usually come out or shelter with another

:51:32. > :51:39.family who is already living in a tent or maybe in a building, so that

:51:40. > :51:48.means that one room would be shared by two or three families at a time,

:51:49. > :51:52.and when a tent or shelter is identified or put up for them, or

:51:53. > :51:57.they can put them up themselves, then it would be the same thing, so

:51:58. > :52:05.it is one room, it is usually something like six metres by four

:52:06. > :52:12.metres. Sometimes it would have a cement floor, sometimes not, if it

:52:13. > :52:18.is hurriedly done then it would not have any cemented flooring. They

:52:19. > :52:21.would sleep there, they would be eating there, and they would be

:52:22. > :52:29.gathering their and telling their stories to each other. Just the

:52:30. > :52:35.other day, we went to visit one of our clients, and it struck me that

:52:36. > :52:42.it is summer, it is almost some are now in Iraq, so the heat, the

:52:43. > :52:53.temperatures are rising. You can really feel the heat when you get

:52:54. > :52:57.into these tents. There is very little ventilation, most of the

:52:58. > :53:04.families would not have air coolers or electric fans, and they are

:53:05. > :53:13.cramped, usually a family of five or six would share that space. And you

:53:14. > :53:20.can just imagine that if one person is having let's say a cough or cold,

:53:21. > :53:26.everybody in the family will have the same infraction in a few days.

:53:27. > :53:29.Thank you very much for your time this morning, we really appreciate

:53:30. > :53:32.you giving some of your time to explain the conditions in those

:53:33. > :53:40.camps, those images we were just showing were sent to us so you

:53:41. > :53:45.conceive yourself what the conditions in the camps are alike.

:53:46. > :53:49.But I suppose at least those people are safe from Islamic State

:53:50. > :53:53.fighters. Thank you viewer time, we appreciate it, Dr Gaspar from the

:53:54. > :53:56.medical Corps. This morning there are more

:53:57. > :53:59.allegations of domestic abuse in the marriage of Johnny Depp

:54:00. > :54:01.and Amber Heard. It's claimed the Hollywood star

:54:02. > :54:03.has attacked his wife at least three times,

:54:04. > :54:05.including one occasion where he reportedly tried to smother

:54:06. > :54:07.her with a pillow whilst drunk. In legal papers, 30-year-old

:54:08. > :54:09.Amber Heard has said After Heard left

:54:10. > :54:15.court in Los Angeles, where she was granted

:54:16. > :54:17.a restraining order against her estranged husband,

:54:18. > :54:22.new photos from December also emerged of the actress

:54:23. > :54:26.with a bruised eye and cut lip. The judge also said Mr Depp should

:54:27. > :54:29.not try to contact Ms Heard. Johnny Depp denies all

:54:30. > :54:37.the allegations against him. Here with us in the

:54:38. > :54:39.studio is Polly Neate. Polly is the Chief Executive

:54:40. > :54:50.of Women's Aid, the national I want to start by asking you what

:54:51. > :54:57.you think of some of the media coverage of these allegations. I

:54:58. > :55:03.have a couple of headlines here. I have the times, is this the most

:55:04. > :55:15.toxic divorce in Hollywood? Reputations are at stake, says

:55:16. > :55:22.Hannah Betts. The Mail says he owns ?7,000 a month, but spends ?30,000

:55:23. > :55:25.on clothes and laundry. So what? What on earth has that got to do

:55:26. > :55:31.with the issue of whether or not she was abused by her husband? This

:55:32. > :55:34.judging of victims, sadly it is not surprising, so the main thing I

:55:35. > :55:40.think is, here we go again, but it has to stop. It really is not

:55:41. > :55:46.tolerable that we pass judgment on the victim of an alleged offence and

:55:47. > :55:50.leapt to the defence of the alleged offender before we know all the

:55:51. > :55:55.facts and insult the victim in what are actually some deeply misogynist

:55:56. > :56:01.ways. The whole idea that she is a gold digger is a misogynist

:56:02. > :56:07.constructed of a woman who happens to Mary to a wealthy man. Do you

:56:08. > :56:11.think that kind of coverage could potentially stop other victims

:56:12. > :56:18.coming forward? I really hope not. One of the things it is important to

:56:19. > :56:21.say is that most victims of domestic abuse are not in high-profile

:56:22. > :56:25.relationships. Those that are should have just as much right to justice

:56:26. > :56:30.as those who are not, but most are not, and in this country, you can

:56:31. > :56:33.phone the National domestic violence helpline, there are local specialist

:56:34. > :56:36.services available who will support you to go through the Criminal

:56:37. > :56:41.Justice Act process if you want to and to recover from your experience.

:56:42. > :56:46.I really hope it won't put victims off, but I have to say that this

:56:47. > :56:51.kind of victim blaming is extremely common, and it is frightening to

:56:52. > :56:56.women. On the one hand we go, if it is so bad, why don't they leave?

:56:57. > :56:59.They don't, because they are afraid they won't be believed, they will be

:57:00. > :57:04.taken seriously, they will be blamed. This happens everyday.

:57:05. > :57:11.Johnny Depp denies the claims. How typical or otherwise is this kind of

:57:12. > :57:16.case, do you think? It is quite typical for a claim of domestic

:57:17. > :57:20.abuse to be contested, and we need to wait until the outcome of

:57:21. > :57:25.whatever legal proceedings happens, so I don't want to make any kind of

:57:26. > :57:29.judgment about the case itself. I think it is quite typical, one thing

:57:30. > :57:33.it is important to say it it is very typical that a man could be abusive

:57:34. > :57:37.to his partner, but seen as a completely guy and lovely and

:57:38. > :57:41.adorable by his male friends, which is clearly the case with Johnny

:57:42. > :57:45.Depp, and that is not uncommon even the people who know the couple very

:57:46. > :57:48.well to be unaware of abuse that is going on within a relationship. Of

:57:49. > :58:01.course we don't know what has happened in this case. Thank you

:58:02. > :58:13.very much armour Polly Neate. Let's have a look at the weather with

:58:14. > :58:17.Carol. Thank you. That should stay mainly drive the bulk of the UK,

:58:18. > :58:21.there is a little rain for the Northern Isles that will sink its

:58:22. > :58:29.way south, still a lot of cloud in the East. Under the cloud and wind,

:58:30. > :58:33.it will feel quite cool, but come towards the west, the cloud breaking

:58:34. > :58:37.up nicely and we are looking at a fair bit of sunshine. Into the

:58:38. > :58:42.afternoon across parts of the south-west, once we have that

:58:43. > :58:45.sunshine, a little farewell cloud here and there, temperatures up to

:58:46. > :58:52.19 Celsius in Barnstable and Cardiff. The cloud again burning

:58:53. > :59:02.away and leaving a sea breeze across the West. Sunshine from the word go,

:59:03. > :59:05.and we will continue from the word go west of Scotland seeing again

:59:06. > :59:09.some sunshine, but we will see the rain moving from the Northern Isles.

:59:10. > :59:14.Eastern Scotland and eastern England, we are back into this

:59:15. > :59:17.cloud, easing through the day but still very noticeable across East

:59:18. > :59:23.Anglia and the south-east. Accentuating the cooler feel.

:59:24. > :59:27.Through the evening and overnight, if anything, all this cloud in the

:59:28. > :59:33.East moves towards the West. We still have that keen breeze out

:59:34. > :59:39.towards the West, temperatures dropping to around nine Celsius.

:59:40. > :59:46.That is how we start the day tomorrow, again, it is a real East/

:59:47. > :59:50.West split to start the day. A weather front coming in from the

:59:51. > :59:53.North Sea bringing in rain, and the timing of exactly where this is

:59:54. > :59:58.going to be could change. It could speed up or slow down. The lions

:59:59. > :00:07.share of the sunshine will be across parts of the Channel Islands, the

:00:08. > :00:13.South West. Temperatures in the sunshine up to 19. As we head into

:00:14. > :00:16.the weekend, the forecast is mostly dry, there will be some sunshine but

:00:17. > :00:21.also scattered showers. Not all of us will see the showers, some could

:00:22. > :00:27.be heavy thundery. Looking at in more detail, not as much of a

:00:28. > :00:32.breeze, but still coming in from the North Sea, and you can see how

:00:33. > :00:33.things brighten up a touch. We have all these showers across southern

:00:34. > :00:40.areas with a high of up to 22. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:41. > :00:42.welcome to the programme Coming up before 11:

:00:43. > :00:48.The extraordinary story of a baby swapped at birth in a hospital in El

:00:49. > :00:55.Salvador. We'll bring you the full interview

:00:56. > :00:58.with the parents who have finally been allowed to return home

:00:59. > :01:01.with their one year old son - having missed the first four months

:01:02. > :01:03.of his life. The thought that the baby I had been

:01:04. > :01:07.nursing, taken care of, loving him, bathing him,

:01:08. > :01:15.that he was not mine and then I had another thought

:01:16. > :01:18.which came with it - As housing association tenants get

:01:19. > :01:29.the right to buy their homes - questions are raised

:01:30. > :01:44.as to where the money to pay for it There will be people like me in a

:01:45. > :01:48.situation, where you have lost a home, for whatever reason, you are

:01:49. > :01:52.on a low income, you need somewhere to live. There needs to be something

:01:53. > :02:04.in place to help anybody who needs help. And live, we will bring you a

:02:05. > :02:07.speech from the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, who will explain why he

:02:08. > :02:16.thinks leaving the EU would be a disaster for the majority of people

:02:17. > :02:22.in this country. Here is a need to McVeigh with a summary of the news.

:02:23. > :02:27.Good morning. Jeremy Corbyn will make a speech about why Labour

:02:28. > :02:32.should remain in the EU -- Britain should remain in the EU. Meanwhile,

:02:33. > :02:39.Downing Street has been accused of showing contempt for voters on the

:02:40. > :02:45.impact of immigration. Coming up live, the founder of Cobra

:02:46. > :02:53.beer will be answering your questions.

:02:54. > :02:55.A couple who were given the wrong baby by a hospital

:02:56. > :02:58.in El Salvador a year ago, are finally back home after a long

:02:59. > :03:00.fight to be reunited with the correct child.

:03:01. > :03:02.Richard Cushworth, who's British, and his wife Mercedes,

:03:03. > :03:04.were given a birth certificate for their son Moses

:03:05. > :03:10.They landed back home in Dallas, Texas this week and have been

:03:11. > :03:15.The first trauma to me was, oh my goodness, I have a child

:03:16. > :03:20.and my child is somewhere out there in the world, where is he?

:03:21. > :03:45.can see more of that interview after the news summary.

:03:46. > :03:47.At least five people have died after heavy flooding

:03:48. > :03:50.Rivers have burst their banks in France and Germany.

:03:51. > :03:53.In France, there're fears that water levels on the River Seine could rise

:03:54. > :04:05.further, threatening more towns and villages.

:04:06. > :04:08.More than 80% of schools in England are struggling to properly support

:04:09. > :04:09.children with special educational needs or disabilities,

:04:10. > :04:13.A survey of head teachers has found that insufficient budgets and local

:04:14. > :04:16.authority cuts are having a detrimental impact on both pupil

:04:17. > :04:20.The government says it has increased the funding for children with high

:04:21. > :04:24.A decision on the future of the high street retailer BHS

:04:25. > :04:29.The company went into administration in April.

:04:30. > :04:36.If no buyer is found, BHS could be forced

:04:37. > :04:43.An audio recording of an emergency call made by a mother whose son fell

:04:44. > :05:07.into a gorilla enclosure at Cincinnati Zoo has been released.

:05:08. > :05:09.Shortly after that call was made, the zoo shot

:05:10. > :05:12.Harambe the gorilla dead, sparking global outrage.

:05:13. > :05:15.The parents of the three-year-old have released a statement

:05:16. > :05:18.saying their son is recovering well, but they could now face

:05:19. > :05:23.criminal charges as police investigate the incident.

:05:24. > :05:28.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:05:29. > :05:42.Thank you. Thanks for your comments, on your own experiences of whether

:05:43. > :05:47.mainstream schools in England are failing children. Hannah says she is

:05:48. > :05:51.a teacher and we do not have enough funding to support pupils with

:05:52. > :05:57.special educational needs. Often I do not have a classroom assistant.

:05:58. > :06:01.Supporting 30 children on your own is hard.

:06:02. > :06:07.Judith said your segment was unfair on those who work hard to provide

:06:08. > :06:12.reasonable adjustments. Tina said, I am the mother of a son at a state

:06:13. > :06:16.special school for children with complex needs. The school could not

:06:17. > :06:19.do more but all the children are different. If the school is failing

:06:20. > :06:25.some children it is because we do not know much about autism and how

:06:26. > :06:29.to manage it. Keep those coming in. Thank you.

:06:30. > :06:35.Jeremy Corbyn is leader of the Labour Party and he has a speech on

:06:36. > :06:38.the benefits of staying in the European Union.

:06:39. > :06:47.As a get closer to what may be a very tight vote, it does not help if

:06:48. > :06:49.the hype and histrionic claims continue, or worse, intensify. I

:06:50. > :06:52.believe that the European Union has the potential to deliver positive

:06:53. > :06:57.change for the people of this country. If there was a radical

:06:58. > :07:03.reforming government to drive that agenda in Britain. Too often, what

:07:04. > :07:07.has held back the European Union is having to move at the pace of the

:07:08. > :07:11.slowest and you do not get much slower than a British Tory

:07:12. > :07:16.government. Let me say this up front, to anyone listening who is

:07:17. > :07:20.not already registered to vote, please register to vote. You have

:07:21. > :07:25.just five days left to register to vote. Particularly for young people

:07:26. > :07:32.who will be living the longest with whatever decision is made, please

:07:33. > :07:40.register to vote. The process can be done online, said Lyse Doucet, so

:07:41. > :07:44.you have your aquatic opportunity. George Osborne claimed the British

:07:45. > :07:49.economy would enter a year-long recession if we voted to leave. This

:07:50. > :07:57.is the same George Osborne who rejected the austerity policies to

:07:58. > :08:03.be closed by 2015. That has been rescheduled to 2021. It is the same

:08:04. > :08:08.George Osborne who said the British economy would be carried aloft by

:08:09. > :08:14.the march of the makers. Yet the manufacturing sector has stagnated

:08:15. > :08:17.ever since. The biggest risk of recession in this country is from a

:08:18. > :08:22.Conservative government that is failing on the deficit, the debt and

:08:23. > :08:29.failing to rebalance the economy and failing to boost productivity. Two

:08:30. > :08:35.weeks ago, Boris Johnson claimed, and I have to quote with care here:

:08:36. > :08:39.it is absurd that we are told we cannot sell bananas in bunches of

:08:40. > :08:44.more than two or three bananas. Apart from saying bananas twice in

:08:45. > :08:52.the same sentence, it seems fairly absurd and I am tempted to use the

:08:53. > :09:00.name of the same fruit to describe his thoughts on the same process.

:09:01. > :09:04.Utterly absurd. The Leave side have conceded a number of myths about the

:09:05. > :09:09.evils of the EU which frankly nonsense. Let's remind ourselves of

:09:10. > :09:14.the positive. It was European regulation which improved Britain's

:09:15. > :09:20.beaches, which if you go back 30 or 40 years, wherein a terrible state.

:09:21. > :09:25.Britain used to pump raw, untreated sewage straight into the sea. Just

:09:26. > :09:31.25 years ago, one in four of the beaches in this country were too

:09:32. > :09:33.dirty to swim from. Now 95% of our beaches have a clean bill of health

:09:34. > :09:38.because of tough regulations which help people not just in this country

:09:39. > :09:43.but all over Europe, because clearly sewage pumped into the sea here can

:09:44. > :09:49.end up in France or Holland and vice versa. Three years ago, the European

:09:50. > :09:52.Union voted to restrict the use of some pesticides which are strongly

:09:53. > :10:03.linked to a decline in the bee population. A bee population is

:10:04. > :10:12.essential for our biodiversity. These restrictions were passed and I

:10:13. > :10:15.hope will be tough. It will be tough implementation to ensure

:10:16. > :10:20.regeneration of the bee population and the biodiversity that goes with

:10:21. > :10:23.it. Too often, the British government has had to be dragged

:10:24. > :10:30.kicking and screaming in order to protect our own environment. The

:10:31. > :10:35.Prime Minister has lurched from his hug a husky phase when he became

:10:36. > :10:42.Tory leader, a decade on to gassing badgers, and then a decade on trying

:10:43. > :10:44.to poison bee. I think he needs to take some eco-lessons on

:10:45. > :10:50.biodiversity. APPLAUSE

:10:51. > :11:00.Macro and understanding the necessity and beauty of our natural

:11:01. > :11:04.environment. A recent court judgment ordered the British government to

:11:05. > :11:10.tackle air pollution. It was the UK Supreme Court in London which acted

:11:11. > :11:15.24th EU standards. A recent study found EU air quality regulations are

:11:16. > :11:19.saving roughly 80,000 lives per year, across the whole continent. It

:11:20. > :11:25.is time this government acted to save lives here as well. The air

:11:26. > :11:29.quality in London is poor. It is pouring other cities. It has to be

:11:30. > :11:40.improved. We can use EU legislation to improve it. European Union

:11:41. > :11:44.targets have been vital for the adoption of renewable energy. Some

:11:45. > :11:48.countries like Germany have embraced this change, revolutionising their

:11:49. > :11:53.energy markets, creating new high skilled jobs and leading

:11:54. > :11:59.technological advance. Britain has dragged its heels. So much for David

:12:00. > :12:03.Cameron's rhetoric about leading the greenest government ever. There are

:12:04. > :12:07.other things as well. It is an EU directive which stopped the mobile

:12:08. > :12:12.phone companies ripping us off if we make or receive a call anywhere in

:12:13. > :12:17.Europe. It is the collective strength of 28 countries that

:12:18. > :12:23.achieved that. A crucial area is the European Convention on human rights,

:12:24. > :12:26.that empowers citizens to hold the government to account. This has

:12:27. > :12:31.strengthened our rights as citizens, and stopped our government from

:12:32. > :12:37.gagging free speech and a free press. It was a Labour government

:12:38. > :12:44.which wrote the convention into UK law through the very important and

:12:45. > :12:47.seminal Human Rights Act of 1998. Today, senior figures in the

:12:48. > :12:51.Conservative government are discussing repealing the act which

:12:52. > :12:57.has ensured the state cannot violate people's right. It is because of

:12:58. > :13:01.those human rights in law, that we actually achieved the inquest into

:13:02. > :13:07.Hillsborough, so those families finally got justice after 27 years

:13:08. > :13:12.of hard work and campaigning to get a hearing. And congratulations to

:13:13. > :13:22.them, all of them. APPLAUSE

:13:23. > :13:26.For the tenacity and the dignity with which they conducted themselves

:13:27. > :13:32.overall those very long, very difficult years. It is worth

:13:33. > :13:36.reflecting that if this government repealed the Human Rights Act, and

:13:37. > :13:42.opted out of the European Convention on human rights, it would join

:13:43. > :13:48.Europe's only dictatorship, Belarus, as the only other country not to

:13:49. > :13:52.support universal human rights. A Labour government will restore our

:13:53. > :13:59.human rights in full if they managed to repeal the Human Rights Act of

:14:00. > :14:03.1998. On rights at work, this is a very important area, Europe, through

:14:04. > :14:08.the social chapter and other directives, has delivered a number

:14:09. > :14:12.of good things. 26 million workers in Britain benefit from being

:14:13. > :14:21.entitled to 28 days of paid leave a year. And a limit on how many hours

:14:22. > :14:24.they can be forced to work through the working Time directive. Over 8

:14:25. > :14:30.million part-time workers, 6 million of whom are women, have equal rights

:14:31. > :14:37.with full-time colleagues. 1 million temporary workers have the same

:14:38. > :14:41.rights as permanent workers. 3 million women every have guaranteed

:14:42. > :14:45.rights to take maternity leave. It is important to understand these

:14:46. > :14:52.games. It means workers throughout Europe have decent rights at work.

:14:53. > :15:00.It means it is harder to under cut terms and conditions. I pay tribute

:15:01. > :15:05.to governments across Europe who have forced these regulations

:15:06. > :15:08.through and campaigned even further. STUDIO: That is the Labour leader

:15:09. > :15:13.Jeremy Corbyn setting out his reasons for why he thinks you should

:15:14. > :15:17.vote to stay in the European Union. He began by criticising the

:15:18. > :15:20.Conservative Chancellor George Osborne for his economic forecasts,

:15:21. > :15:24.even though in this debate on the EU, they are both on the same side.

:15:25. > :15:33.Then Mr Corbyn spoke about environmental reasons why the EU has

:15:34. > :15:36.been good for this country. He spoke about the declining bee population.

:15:37. > :15:39.He talked about the fact that it is because of the European Union we

:15:40. > :15:47.have a directive which has stopped the rip-off mobile phone roaming

:15:48. > :15:49.charges and there will be no roaming charges from next year because of a

:15:50. > :15:53.vote by the European Parliament. He talked about European Convention on

:15:54. > :15:57.human rights which guarantees the right to a family life and to

:15:58. > :16:02.practice the religion you want. And then he was talking about workers'

:16:03. > :16:07.rights which he says we enjoy as a result of the European Union. Four

:16:08. > :16:08.weeks paid leave, paternity leave, the right to go to antenatal

:16:09. > :16:12.appointment and so forth. A couple have been describing

:16:13. > :16:21.the moment they realised the child they'd loved,

:16:22. > :16:24.nurtured, fed and bathed for four months wasn't theirs -

:16:25. > :16:26.but had been swapped at birth After a DNA test and a long legal

:16:27. > :16:30.battle Richard Cushworth, who's originally from

:16:31. > :16:32.Bradford in West Yorkshire, and his Salvadoran wife

:16:33. > :16:39.Mercedes Casanellas have now finally returned

:16:40. > :16:40.home with their child, They are still none the wiser

:16:41. > :16:44.as to why their baby Matthew Price has been to meet them

:16:45. > :16:55.for the Today programme on Radio 4. He was born, and immediately when he

:16:56. > :17:00.was taken out of me, he was passed to me, and I gave him a kiss and

:17:01. > :17:07.they took him to the nursery. And that was the last time I saw him. So

:17:08. > :17:12.the next morning, what happened? The next morning they bring all the

:17:13. > :17:16.babies back, so at noon I got my baby, and when I saw him, the first

:17:17. > :17:24.impression was, this is not the same baby that I saw last night. And I

:17:25. > :17:29.looked at him, and I remember that the baby I saw was just like my

:17:30. > :17:35.husband, and this baby did not look like my husband, and I started to

:17:36. > :17:39.tell all the staff that was in the hospital, and they all insisted and

:17:40. > :17:44.said, no, this is your baby, you were medicated last night after the

:17:45. > :17:52.C section, they put extra medication on me, so they said, you were not

:17:53. > :17:58.aware, this is your baby. I asked the doctors, they said, this is your

:17:59. > :18:03.baby. So I was like, OK, this is my baby. But your mothers instinct told

:18:04. > :18:08.you it was not, and yet still you brought that child home here to

:18:09. > :18:16.Texas? Yes, I took the baby on the fourth day at the hospital, I was

:18:17. > :18:21.going home, and I had visitors, my friends came, and I said, look, do

:18:22. > :18:28.you think they changed my baby? And my friends would say, no, it is the

:18:29. > :18:31.same baby. I asked 20, 30, how many people, everybody that came, and

:18:32. > :18:39.they all said, no, this is your baby. So I went home and then my

:18:40. > :18:43.husband came from Texas, and the baby, the days started to go by, and

:18:44. > :18:49.his features, his skin, everything started to change, and he started to

:18:50. > :18:57.not look anything like either one of us. So I had that thought in my

:18:58. > :19:02.heart, in my mind. I was nursing the baby, taking care of him, loving him

:19:03. > :19:07.like ours, and I started to fall in love with the baby, and this feeling

:19:08. > :19:11.was so difficult, because you love this baby like your baby, but then

:19:12. > :19:17.inside, I had the thought, what if this is not my baby? What if this is

:19:18. > :19:23.not my child? Where is my child? Where is my baby? And I tried to put

:19:24. > :19:29.that thought away, I said, this is not real, this cannot have happened

:19:30. > :19:34.to me, this is Hollywood, this is the movies. And that thought came

:19:35. > :19:41.back and forth every day, every week. I could not resist that

:19:42. > :19:49.thought, that feeling. And I took the decision to go and take a DNA

:19:50. > :19:54.test. So I never told my husband and a thing, I never mentioned to him, I

:19:55. > :19:59.would ask and, hey, do you think the baby looks like us? And what was

:20:00. > :20:03.your answer? I just accepted that it was my child. Now I look at the

:20:04. > :20:08.pictures, right around the time that we came to Dallas when he was three

:20:09. > :20:12.months old, and I am shocked that I never suspected, because you can see

:20:13. > :20:19.that it is just obviously not my child, if you look at some of the

:20:20. > :20:24.pictures. I don't know how I didn't ask myself. You don't think about

:20:25. > :20:30.these things. We were in love with the baby, and even when I did the

:20:31. > :20:34.big DNA test, I thought I was betraying him, that was thought I

:20:35. > :20:37.had, I am betraying my son, but I cannot live with this. And I

:20:38. > :20:44.thought, if this is my son, DNA test will prove that he is mine, and this

:20:45. > :20:54.thought has to abandon me. When the test results came back, what did

:20:55. > :21:02.they say? 0.0% the mother of the baby. It was impossible but that was

:21:03. > :21:06.your son? Impossible. 0.0%. And how did you feel at that moment? I just

:21:07. > :21:13.fell on the floor. My body just couldn't resist the pain, the

:21:14. > :21:22.thought that the baby that I had been nursing, taking care of, loving

:21:23. > :21:30.him, bathing him, that he was not mine. And then I had another thought

:21:31. > :21:38.which came with it, where is my baby? So I had to thoughts, what is

:21:39. > :21:47.going to happen with this baby, and where is my baby? So I just fell on

:21:48. > :21:51.the floor and started to cry and cry and cry, and then my husband came

:21:52. > :21:56.and he was like, what happened? And I am like, how am I going to tell

:21:57. > :21:58.him? What am I going to tell him? I couldn't even speak for minutes and

:21:59. > :22:15.minutes and give him the news that way. And how did you feel when

:22:16. > :22:23.Mercy told you? I was overwhelmed. I remember the first trauma to me was,

:22:24. > :22:28.oh my goodness, I have a child, and my child is somewhere out there in

:22:29. > :22:33.the world. Where is he? Who is taking care of him? What happened to

:22:34. > :22:39.him? Why did this happen? Am I ever go to see him again? And I just felt

:22:40. > :22:49.like a panic that my only child was lost or stolen. I didn't know what

:22:50. > :22:53.it was, and that was the concern. It was after that but I started to

:22:54. > :22:59.process, we might lose this child that we have been raising for three

:23:00. > :23:04.months, and that was the second trauma, that we might lose one, and

:23:05. > :23:09.I remember in the beginning, it was so difficult to talk about losing

:23:10. > :23:15.Jacob, wasn't it? And so we started saying to each other and hoping, our

:23:16. > :23:19.hope in the beginning was that we would find our real child but also

:23:20. > :23:27.be able to keep the one we had raced for three months, and that we would

:23:28. > :23:31.have to children was our hope. But I remember I was the first one who

:23:32. > :23:36.started saying, this child has a legitimate family, we are going to

:23:37. > :23:40.have to give him away, and I think I was the one that accepted that

:23:41. > :23:49.first. They did track down your biological child, they did DNA tests

:23:50. > :23:53.on babies born that day in the hospital, and they found him, and

:23:54. > :23:58.then within a matter of hours, you had to hand over the child you had

:23:59. > :24:05.been caring for? I remember that, the judge called me into her room,

:24:06. > :24:10.and she said, we have found your baby, and when she told me that, I

:24:11. > :24:18.couldn't even, her words were like, what? I couldn't understand, I

:24:19. > :24:24.couldn't believe it. It was something wonderful. A great relief.

:24:25. > :24:28.And then my lawyer in the car, he said, we were celebrating, can you

:24:29. > :24:35.imagine after all these weeks looking for him, and we were crazy,

:24:36. > :24:41.and calling everybody, it was a big party, and my lawyer said, we have

:24:42. > :24:47.to bring the other baby. And I am like, what? And he said, we have

:24:48. > :24:52.found his family and you have to hand him in. And I couldn't believe

:24:53. > :24:59.it. That is when I realised, until he told me, you have to give the

:25:00. > :25:05.other baby... And we got there, and we had to rush, we were rushed in,

:25:06. > :25:13.we have to go quickly, just bring the baby, and we barely got time to

:25:14. > :25:18.say goodbye. And I got all his clothes...

:25:19. > :25:28.And we took him in the office, and we handed him in. And that was the

:25:29. > :25:38.most difficult part of all the situation. And then at the same

:25:39. > :25:42.time, it is so sad, but we got our baby, and it was so happy, we

:25:43. > :25:48.finally saw him, and when he saw us, he was smiling and he was laughing,

:25:49. > :25:57.and it was so... Something happened really beautiful. He was dressed

:25:58. > :26:02.just like my husband. And Jacob was dressed like his dad, too. We didn't

:26:03. > :26:06.know each other, we don't know anything, but the babies, when we

:26:07. > :26:13.took him in, the each were dressed like their father. It was really

:26:14. > :26:21.nice, and we celebrated, we took Moses home, and it was beautiful. It

:26:22. > :26:26.was a blessing of God. I got to nurse him, too, without any

:26:27. > :26:36.problems, and he adjusted. He never cried. It was amazing, his

:26:37. > :26:41.adjustment, how peaceful he was. Peaceful and smiling and happy, very

:26:42. > :26:44.happy. And when we got home, we realised that we didn't have any

:26:45. > :26:48.clothes for him, because we took all the other clothes for the other

:26:49. > :26:52.baby, and we were like, what will we do tonight, because we got home very

:26:53. > :26:58.late? And then our friends started to come and bring gifts. But you

:26:59. > :27:03.don't even think about that. Your thoughts are like, it is like an

:27:04. > :27:08.emotional roller-coaster. Do you have any contact with Jacob now? The

:27:09. > :27:12.last time we saw was when we got their footprints and birth

:27:13. > :27:16.certificate. And we got to spend about two hours with the other

:27:17. > :27:20.family, we took a lot of pictures and videos. Do you think you will

:27:21. > :27:25.continue to have a place in his life over the years, or is that not going

:27:26. > :27:32.to be possible? I think so. We would like that. I would really love to

:27:33. > :27:38.see justice in this situation, Matthew. I would like to know what

:27:39. > :27:42.happened. How did this happen? Because I don't want to see it

:27:43. > :27:48.happen to another person. It has done terrible financial and

:27:49. > :27:51.emotional damage to us. But we are here, we survived, and God has

:27:52. > :27:59.helped us and comforted us through the process, and everything is

:28:00. > :28:01.turning out OK. That was an astonishing interview.

:28:02. > :28:09.The couple finally reunited with their delicious little boy.

:28:10. > :28:13.Six weeks ago James Taylor was suddenly forced to retire from

:28:14. > :28:15.cricket due to a potentially fatal heart condition.

:28:16. > :28:17.The former England batsman has been speaking to retired

:28:18. > :28:26.The footballer was forced to retire at the age of 23 after collapsing on

:28:27. > :28:29.the pitch. They are brought together in a lovely conversation in the next

:28:30. > :28:31.half an hour. And a recording of the emergency

:28:32. > :28:34.call made by the mother whose son fell into a gorilla

:28:35. > :28:38.enclosure is released. With the News here's Annita McVeigh

:28:39. > :28:44.in the BBC Newsroom. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:28:45. > :28:47.is making a speech setting out why he thinks the UK should remain

:28:48. > :28:49.in the EU. He's being urged to do more to get

:28:50. > :28:51.Labour supporters more Meanwhile Leave campaigner

:28:52. > :28:54.Iain Duncan Smith has accused Downing Street of showing contempt

:28:55. > :28:57.for voters over the A couple who were given

:28:58. > :29:03.the wrong baby by a hospital in El Salvador a year ago

:29:04. > :29:06.are finally back home after a long fight to be

:29:07. > :29:08.reunited with their son. Richard Cushworth, who's British,

:29:09. > :29:11.and his wife Mercy, were given a birth certificate for their son

:29:12. > :29:13.Moses only a few days ago. They landed back home in Texas this

:29:14. > :29:28.week and have been speaking The first trauma to me was, oh my

:29:29. > :29:34.goodness, I have a child, and my child is somewhere out there in the

:29:35. > :29:38.world. Where is he? Who is taking care of him? What happened to him?

:29:39. > :29:41.Why did this happen? Am I ever go to see him again?

:29:42. > :29:43.At least five people have died in heavy flooding

:29:44. > :29:46.In one Bavarian town, the bodies of three people

:29:47. > :29:49.who became trapped in a house by rising waters have been found.

:29:50. > :29:52.In France, there are fears that the River Seine could rise

:29:53. > :29:55.further, threatening more towns and villages.

:29:56. > :29:58.The Department for Education has defended its support for pupils

:29:59. > :30:00.with special needs - after a study found that head

:30:01. > :30:02.teachers across a majority of mainstream schools say cuts

:30:03. > :30:09.and insufficient budgets are having a damaging impact.

:30:10. > :30:11.The Government says it has increased funding for children

:30:12. > :30:17.The study said around 80% of schools were struggling to help pupils

:30:18. > :30:19.who need special educational support or have disabilities,

:30:20. > :30:21.with staff fearing the effect on pupil assessments

:30:22. > :30:26.The fate of 11,000 jobs hangs in the balance -

:30:27. > :30:29.with a decision on the future of the high street retailer BHS

:30:30. > :30:32.The company went into administration in April.

:30:33. > :30:38.If no buyer is found BHS could be forced into liquidation.

:30:39. > :30:41.An audio recording of an emergency call made by a mother whose son fell

:30:42. > :31:12.into a gorilla enclosure at Cincinnati Zoo has been released.

:31:13. > :31:14.Shortly after that call was made the zoo shot dead

:31:15. > :31:18.Harambe the gorilla - sparking global outrage.

:31:19. > :31:20.The parents of the three-year-old have released a statement

:31:21. > :31:22.saying their son is recovering well, but they could now face

:31:23. > :31:32.criminal charges as police investigate the incident.

:31:33. > :31:34.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for

:31:35. > :31:47.This news just in. A former aide to David Cameron has been given a

:31:48. > :31:52.two-year conditional discharge at Southwark Crown Court for making

:31:53. > :31:58.indecent images of children. He is 65 years old, he is called Patrick

:31:59. > :32:00.Rock. He has effectively walked free from court -- for downloading images

:32:01. > :32:15.of indecent children. Good morning. Andy Murray has been

:32:16. > :32:21.playing his best ever on clay, according to John Kavaliauskas.

:32:22. > :32:24.England take on Portugal at Wembley tonight in their final warm up match

:32:25. > :32:32.before the European Championship in France. The visitors will be without

:32:33. > :32:38.Cristiano Ronaldo. He is on holiday after Real Madrid won the Champions

:32:39. > :32:43.League. Pep Guardiola has made his first

:32:44. > :32:46.signing for Manchester City. Ilkay Gundogan has signed a four-year deal

:32:47. > :32:51.at the Etihad. And Royal Troon is to hold a special

:32:52. > :32:55.meeting in July to propose the introduction of female members. The

:32:56. > :33:00.club will host the Open Championship. The field members

:33:01. > :33:06.voted not to accept women in last month, knowing that only courses

:33:07. > :33:10.with equal membership rules could host the Open. I will have more

:33:11. > :33:16.later. Thank you.

:33:17. > :33:24.We have had some tweets about children with special educational

:33:25. > :33:29.needs. One mother says children in mainstream schools are being failed.

:33:30. > :33:33.The system is buckling under cuts and autism families are having to

:33:34. > :33:39.fight every single day. Thank you for that. Do keep them coming in. We

:33:40. > :33:44.heard Jeremy Corbyn's speech earlier, and when it comes to

:33:45. > :33:49.reasons for the UK to stay in the European Union, you would not

:33:50. > :33:54.necessarily put the safety of bees at the top of the list. Jeremy

:33:55. > :34:00.Corbyn has explained why bees will be safer if Britain remains in the

:34:01. > :34:05.European Union. We can talk to our political Guru Norman Smith. That

:34:06. > :34:12.was interesting, bees and beaches? I have heard lots of reasons for

:34:13. > :34:17.staying in the EU but I have never heard that bees would be better off.

:34:18. > :34:20.Mr Corbyn is a keen gardener and has his own allotment so it is probably

:34:21. > :34:28.an issue that he feels strongly about. He said the EU had passed EU

:34:29. > :34:33.regulations about pesticides which then if it did bees and he said the

:34:34. > :34:38.EU was better for beaches. Say beaches and bees would both benefit

:34:39. > :34:43.if we stay in the EU. That is a bit and then because he was making a

:34:44. > :34:48.much bigger picture about the EU and why Labour people should be in

:34:49. > :34:53.favour of it. Primarily, it has to be said about workers' rights and

:34:54. > :34:57.employment rights. He talked about trying to extend those. He says

:34:58. > :35:02.Europe has done a lot but it can do more. Some of the areas he said a

:35:03. > :35:11.Labour government would seek to address, he said four example if the

:35:12. > :35:14.Conservatives abolished the Human Rights Act, Labour would seek to

:35:15. > :35:16.reinstate that. If they sign up to this controversial transatlantic

:35:17. > :35:21.trade deal, Labour would veto it. We did get some grit from Jeremy Corbyn

:35:22. > :35:25.but I think some eyebrows would be raised at the thought that bees and

:35:26. > :35:29.beaches were the bigger issues. Thank you, Norman.

:35:30. > :35:33.Six weeks ago, James Taylor was living out his childhood dream

:35:34. > :35:35.and had a promising career as a professional cricketer

:35:36. > :35:39.But at the age of 26, he was forced to retire when doctors

:35:40. > :35:41.discovered he had a potentially fatal heart condition.

:35:42. > :35:42.It means he can't do strenuous exercise.

:35:43. > :35:45.Medics likened his diagnosis to that of former footballer Fabrice Muamba,

:35:46. > :35:48.who collapsed on the pitch during an FA Cup quarterfinal

:35:49. > :35:55.The player, who was 23 at the time, was "in effect dead" for 78 minutes.

:35:56. > :35:58.Former England batsman James says he drew inspiration from Fabrice.

:35:59. > :36:12.Here's what happened when the two came face to face.

:36:13. > :36:15.A Premier League football is fighting for his life

:36:16. > :36:19.after collapsing on the pitch during an FA Cup tie.

:36:20. > :36:26.I grew up wanting one thing in life, to play football.

:36:27. > :36:28.England and Nottinghamshire batsmen James Taylor has been forced

:36:29. > :36:34.to retire after discovering he has a very serious heart condition.

:36:35. > :36:43.I made my England ODI debut in 2011, and my Test debut in 2012.

:36:44. > :36:46.He fell to the ground just before half-time during Bolton's

:36:47. > :36:49.match against Spurs, and was rushed to hospital.

:36:50. > :36:57.James Taylor says it has been the toughest week of his life,

:36:58. > :37:00.and his world has been turned upside down.

:37:01. > :37:02.I will never play the sport I love again.

:37:03. > :37:16.But I knew I was lucky to still be alive.

:37:17. > :37:31.I knew your story because of how big it was at the time,

:37:32. > :37:35.and that was obviously a few years before what happened to me,

:37:36. > :37:38.and it was actually, when I eventually got a hospital,

:37:39. > :37:44.I knew how serious mine was, my problem was, when they go,

:37:45. > :37:48.we think you've had something similar to Fabrice Muamba,

:37:49. > :37:51.and then I knew, that was the first time that I knew how

:37:52. > :38:03.Do you count yourself very lucky to find yourself in the difficult

:38:04. > :38:06.position where it could have been a lot worse, would you feel like,

:38:07. > :38:14.I did not count myself lucky up until I had when I had all the tests

:38:15. > :38:18.done, and I had my final MRI scam, where they put dye inside you and it

:38:19. > :38:23.It wasn't until I got the results of that,

:38:24. > :38:31.When he told me I would never be able to play competitive sport

:38:32. > :38:35.again, which meant I would never obviously play cricket,

:38:36. > :38:42.I was obviously in hysterics when he told me.

:38:43. > :38:45.But then he said, what you have, if it is any consolation,

:38:46. > :38:50.it is usually found in postmortems so a lot of the time you die.

:38:51. > :38:53.That is the first time, after all of this, I felt,

:38:54. > :38:58.I am actually quite lucky here to have survived it.

:38:59. > :39:02.If you have just tuned in, let me remind you of

:39:03. > :39:06.the very upsetting news from White Hart Lane this evening.

:39:07. > :39:08.The midfielder Fabrice Muamba collapsed in the match

:39:09. > :39:15.It was all around the world what happened to you,

:39:16. > :39:18.but can you talk in your own words what happened on that

:39:19. > :39:23.We travelled down to White Hart Lane.

:39:24. > :39:30.There was no sign or indication that something would happen

:39:31. > :39:38.I think it was 1-1 at the time and I had the chance

:39:39. > :39:48.Just past the halfway line on the right side of the pitch

:39:49. > :39:50.I felt very dizzy and all of a sudden I fell down.

:39:51. > :39:53.I think the first time my head hit the floor, the second time

:39:54. > :40:02.I did not wake up until Monday morning, very drowsy.

:40:03. > :40:06.Because I was so drugged up and everything else, it was like,

:40:07. > :40:12.I saw everyone in my room and I was wearing a white dress,

:40:13. > :40:21.All of a sudden, I started to see so many people that I had spoken

:40:22. > :40:25.to a couple of days before coming into my room.

:40:26. > :40:27.Some of them looked worried, some of them could not

:40:28. > :40:31.The most important thing is I am here.

:40:32. > :40:35.You get a great perspective of life, because that is a good thing.

:40:36. > :40:42.He has a smile on his face, removing his helmet, the crowd know.

:40:43. > :40:48.He has got his maiden 100 and he got a big hug...

:40:49. > :40:56.What does this ground represent for you?

:40:57. > :40:58.I know you scored your first 100 for England here?

:40:59. > :41:02.Like when you are boy, scoring your first goal

:41:03. > :41:07.I had done what I wanted to do all my life.

:41:08. > :41:09.Especially in the situation where we had won the game.

:41:10. > :41:13.It makes your 100 score more important.

:41:14. > :41:21.I hit the ball and I had to dive in to get to the other end,

:41:22. > :41:25.Doing the skill you love and showing everybody how good you are at that

:41:26. > :41:30.skill, that is the thing I am most going to miss.

:41:31. > :41:32.It is going to be tough but there are things

:41:33. > :41:35.in the future we can both look forward to.

:41:36. > :41:43.Every condition is very different, and every person,

:41:44. > :41:47.and we are an extreme case because we are so young.

:41:48. > :41:52.When you had yours, you were 23, am I right?

:41:53. > :41:56.And now I'm 26, so when they try and relate, certainly on social

:41:57. > :42:00.media when people try to relate, it is really nice when they do,

:42:01. > :42:03.but when they say, I know exactly what you're going through,

:42:04. > :42:06.my grandad had this, I am like, you said it

:42:07. > :42:13.So it is nice when people do try to relate, but every condition

:42:14. > :42:21.This condition is more common than ever, it is not out

:42:22. > :42:24.there yet, but a lot of people who are involved,

:42:25. > :42:34.I appreciate life more, but I'm not scared of anything.

:42:35. > :42:36.As a sports person, we like to pretend we are

:42:37. > :42:42.I think having somebody to literally go out there, if you are going

:42:43. > :42:44.to cry, let the person see you are vulnerable,

:42:45. > :42:59.you are crying, because it kind of helps long-term.

:43:00. > :43:01.Look at all these dodgy pictures, dodgy haircuts.

:43:02. > :43:07.This was my first Midlands cap, Andy Caddick, look at his big ears

:43:08. > :43:12.I am happy with that haircut, I'm not sure about these.

:43:13. > :43:18.Yes, it is exciting, as you can see.

:43:19. > :43:30.That is young, young lions, maybe.

:43:31. > :43:40.I think it this is when I had my pacemaker done, I think.

:43:41. > :43:46.I just wanted to go home then.

:43:47. > :43:53.That I think was after about five days of being in hospital,

:43:54. > :44:06.Hopefully the next chapter will be much more enjoyable.

:44:07. > :44:13.That is the worrying thing for me at the minute.

:44:14. > :44:16.I can't put my finger on what exactly I am going to do,

:44:17. > :44:19.which is always going to be the case, but it was always

:44:20. > :44:22.going to happen at some point, but had it happened later on down

:44:23. > :44:37.the line, I would have prepared myself better.

:44:38. > :44:39.As soon as this happened, you are my inspiration,

:44:40. > :44:41.and now it is funny, sat it talking to you,

:44:42. > :44:44.that is the exact message you are saying back to me,

:44:45. > :44:46.just appreciate life and every second, and life is a real

:44:47. > :44:50.The one thing that I have noticed since it happened

:44:51. > :44:53.We have a totally different perspective on life,

:44:54. > :44:55.and rather than your viewpoint being here, football or cricket,

:44:56. > :44:59.And we appreciate life and everything that comes with it,

:45:00. > :45:01.and more importantly, our friends and family,

:45:02. > :45:02.and to cherish every minute and opportunity.

:45:03. > :45:06.It is no more to question why this, why that.

:45:07. > :45:08.You have to remember we are in a very special team,

:45:09. > :45:18.It is my proudest moment to have survived what we have both survived,

:45:19. > :45:22.and we wouldn't be where we are now without our family, and I think

:45:23. > :45:24.that is the biggest thing, and people around us.

:45:25. > :45:27.They have certainly done wonders for me, and I know by the sound

:45:28. > :45:43.You can watch When James Taylor met Fabrice Muamba now on the BBC

:45:44. > :45:45.iPlayer, or you can hear more by downloading a podcast

:45:46. > :45:57.of the programme from the BBC Radio 5 live website.

:45:58. > :46:04.Audio of the emergency call made by the mother whose child fell into the

:46:05. > :46:24.gorilla enclosure at Cincinnati zoo has been released.

:46:25. > :46:30.Minutes after that call, Harambe the gorilla was shot dead,

:46:31. > :46:33.Well, we can talk now to Sheila Gray from Good Morning Cincinnati.

:46:34. > :46:40.Thank you for talking to our audience. I wonder if the release of

:46:41. > :46:44.this phone call will make people realise how distressing it was for

:46:45. > :46:47.this mother. I think everyone realised from seeing the video how

:46:48. > :46:52.distressing it was for the mother, but I can tell you that she released

:46:53. > :46:56.a statement this week saying that her little boy had been back to the

:46:57. > :46:59.doctor and he is just fine. That is great news, Brett Sheehan is

:47:00. > :47:05.received such a backlash, and I understand the police are now

:47:06. > :47:10.potentially investigating her for neglect? Yes, they have wrapped up

:47:11. > :47:12.the investigation, and they will recommend whether they think she and

:47:13. > :47:21.the father should face charges in this case. They have handed over the

:47:22. > :47:28.investigator to the Hamilton County prosecutor, and we expect to hear

:47:29. > :47:33.tomorrow. Charges for what? Child endangering, and we hear from

:47:34. > :47:39.defence attorneys that that would be hard to prove. Because there was a

:47:40. > :47:41.hole in the fence. Correct. It seems extraordinary they were

:47:42. > :47:46.investigating, but if a complaint is made, I suppose that has to happen.

:47:47. > :47:50.Yes, and I think because people were so upset about what has happened to

:47:51. > :47:56.the gorilla, and people feel there should be some responsibility for

:47:57. > :48:04.what happened to Harambe. Is there an investigation into the zoo? Not

:48:05. > :48:14.by the police. The zoo itself is reviewing its besiegers and the

:48:15. > :48:18.security, -- it's procedures. And the mother has been receiving

:48:19. > :48:20.horrible threats? She has received death threats, she had to delete her

:48:21. > :48:25.Facebook page because people from all over the world were saying

:48:26. > :48:30.terrible things to her, but she also pointed out she spoke with our

:48:31. > :48:33.managing editor and she said she has also received a lot of messages of

:48:34. > :48:41.support, so they are asking the donations be made to the zoo in

:48:42. > :48:44.honour of Harambe. Thank you, Sheila Gray at Cincinnati.

:48:45. > :48:46.Just over a year ago, the government announced

:48:47. > :48:49.the Right To Buy Scheme would be extended - so not only

:48:50. > :48:51.would council tenants be allowed to buy their homes at a discounted

:48:52. > :48:54.price, it would also be open to Housing Association

:48:55. > :48:58.In April this year, the Housing and Planning Act set out exactly

:48:59. > :49:00.what this would mean and how it would work.

:49:01. > :49:04.But as the first housing association properties

:49:05. > :49:06.are about to go under the hammer, questions are being raised

:49:07. > :49:10.as to where the money to pay for it all is going to come from.

:49:11. > :49:16.Here's a short extract from that full report we bought you earlier.

:49:17. > :49:19.Last year, channelling his inner Margaret Thatcher, David Cameron

:49:20. > :49:23.announced the Government was going to extend Right to Buy

:49:24. > :49:25.to housing association tenants, giving them big, Government funded

:49:26. > :49:34.The Government says it can fund it by selling off the country's most

:49:35. > :49:39.You might imagine that when the Government says

:49:40. > :49:42.they are going to force councils to sell off their most expensive

:49:43. > :49:44.properties, they might look something a little

:49:45. > :49:50.Whereas in fact the also means selling houses like this.

:49:51. > :49:52.This is in Southwark in south London.

:49:53. > :50:06.This will have to be sold as soon as it

:50:07. > :50:08.became vacant by the Government to fund the sale of housing

:50:09. > :50:12.And that's because the law says that every council up and down

:50:13. > :50:14.the country has to sell their more expensive homes.

:50:15. > :50:17.That money is then divided up, put into a pot and given

:50:18. > :50:19.to the housing associations to compensate them.

:50:20. > :50:21.The problem is, if you don't have houses like this,

:50:22. > :50:24.many councils will have to sell houses a bit like

:50:25. > :50:27.This estate was recently built by Haringey Council

:50:28. > :50:31.The council fears this new law means it may have to be sold off

:50:32. > :50:35.As the funding system works, it's simply impossible for us

:50:36. > :50:38.to replace them to that extent, nationally only one in eight council

:50:39. > :50:41.homes are rebuilt and we think the Government should cut the red

:50:42. > :50:51.Because if we assume that we need to sell around 113,000 council

:50:52. > :50:53.houses to compensate housing associations and only one

:50:54. > :51:00.in eight are replaced, we will lose around 100,000

:51:01. > :51:06.When you consider we have nearly 2 million people on the council

:51:07. > :51:08.housing waiting list, those are houses we can ill

:51:09. > :51:15.She lost her job and now faces eviction.

:51:16. > :51:17.She's been told by her local authority she will have a 25-year

:51:18. > :51:22.I did think that, given my situation and the fact that I do

:51:23. > :51:24.have a disability, it would have been taken into consideration.

:51:25. > :51:27.But basically the lady I spoke to was called a Housing Options

:51:28. > :51:31.There weren't any options she could actually offer.

:51:32. > :51:33.You must have been quite scared during this whole experience,

:51:34. > :51:37.potentially being homeless, I suppose?

:51:38. > :51:40.When I knew I was going to lose the house, I went

:51:41. > :51:51.I just couldn't pull myself up out of it.

:51:52. > :51:56.At one point I actually came close to suicide, I genuinely did.

:51:57. > :51:59.Right to Buy mark 2 will give hundreds of thousands of housing

:52:00. > :52:01.association tenants the opportunity to own their own homes,

:52:02. > :52:05.But for those who are not so lucky and waiting

:52:06. > :52:07.for council accommodation, this new change may make

:52:08. > :52:13.Let's talk to two Housing Association tenants -

:52:14. > :52:18.John Kavaliauskas who's lived in his flat in central

:52:19. > :52:22.London for nearly 20 years and Leslie Channon

:52:23. > :52:24.who's one of the people considering buying her home,

:52:25. > :52:28.but not, she says, through her own choice.

:52:29. > :52:38.You feel you are being pushed into buying your property, why? I am

:52:39. > :52:45.looking to go back into work, so I will hit the threshold of being

:52:46. > :52:48.forced to buy, I think my rent will go up about ?700 per month, so it

:52:49. > :52:53.will be more cost-effective to do Right to Buy. But on the other hand,

:52:54. > :52:58.I am conflicted, because when I found myself a single mother in

:52:59. > :53:02.desperate need of housing, I was housed, so I am very passionate

:53:03. > :53:08.about social housing, and while it might benefit me moving forward to

:53:09. > :53:13.buy my home, what about the other people coming through? Berkane you

:53:14. > :53:22.forward and extra head ?700 a month on your rent? No, I can't, so I am

:53:23. > :53:27.feeling like a traitor. And John, you want to buy your housing

:53:28. > :53:31.association property in Chelsea. You can understand why I would, but on

:53:32. > :53:37.the same principle, I happened to be fortunate that I have ended up in

:53:38. > :53:45.that position. But my housing association hasn't offered it to ask

:53:46. > :53:49.to us, so people are not being treated equally. We are not treated

:53:50. > :53:55.the same as council tenants when they got the chance to buy. We were

:53:56. > :53:59.made to wait later, and even some of us within the Guinness trust are not

:54:00. > :54:04.being offered the opportunity. I would like the opportunity, what the

:54:05. > :54:08.value would be is another matter, and where I would find the income to

:54:09. > :54:13.do it, but I am sure that there are ways that I could come to a position

:54:14. > :54:26.to buy it. And do you trust that your authority will replace, if you

:54:27. > :54:37.do end up buying your place, like-for-like,

:54:38. > :54:47.one for one. It looks like once every eight will be replaced. The

:54:48. > :54:50.regulation is quite woolly right now, so as that progresses, I think

:54:51. > :54:57.we will find more detail, but the book are just not clear on how that

:54:58. > :55:02.is actually going to add up. So you are not getting the information you

:55:03. > :55:08.need? Not at all. We were given a letter before the crash saying,

:55:09. > :55:11.would we be interested, and that was of course a yes, we didn't know what

:55:12. > :55:15.the final detail would be, that past and we were not given a follow-up

:55:16. > :55:20.letter to say what the position was now, years have rolled on, the

:55:21. > :55:23.Tories in the election manifesto said we were considering letting

:55:24. > :55:27.housing association tenants by, I have gone on to the website that

:55:28. > :55:33.says, log on, check if you are in a position to buy, and my area,

:55:34. > :55:39.understandably, has not come up as an offer. So even now, certain

:55:40. > :55:46.associations in certain areas are offering it, and others are not.

:55:47. > :55:51.What the politics and the reason behind it is, I am not party to, we

:55:52. > :55:55.are not treated the stakeholders in these situations, we are told what

:55:56. > :55:59.will happen and we have to take the best. It has got to the point where

:56:00. > :56:02.we have to take legal action against them to get things like repairs

:56:03. > :56:07.done. We could do a whole programme on that, thank you. Maybe I will

:56:08. > :56:09.consider it! We asked the Government to talk

:56:10. > :56:12.to us about this issue this In a statement, the Housing Minister

:56:13. > :56:39.Brandon Lewis told us: When you look at the area you are

:56:40. > :56:42.in, Chelsea, Central London, there could well be higher value but is

:56:43. > :56:48.that the authority could sell to pay for building new affordable homes,

:56:49. > :56:52.possibly in Burford in The Cotswolds than might be as well, but as we saw

:56:53. > :56:59.in the film, the higher value homes, we are not talking millions. The

:57:00. > :57:03.issue is that local authorities are being forced to sell the higher

:57:04. > :57:07.value homes, and the money is going directly to government to fund the

:57:08. > :57:12.Right to Buy for housing associations to come about discount.

:57:13. > :57:19.And also apparently to build new replacements. The maths is in town

:57:20. > :57:25.up for me. It is quite curious, the local authorities housing stock is

:57:26. > :57:29.going to shrink to fund the housing association sale, but when they

:57:30. > :57:36.sell, the profit that the housing association gets, they get to keep

:57:37. > :57:40.to rebuild. So it seems a bit unfair at the moment, and it is really an

:57:41. > :57:50.clear how it is going to work. And history has shown that most of the

:57:51. > :57:55.money has not gone to replace like-for-like. And it is not just a

:57:56. > :58:00.money issue, there is physically no space in some areas to build new

:58:01. > :58:03.affordable homes, as well. All right, good luck. Thank you for

:58:04. > :58:06.coming on the programme, and for your patience this morning, we

:58:07. > :58:12.really appreciate it. Leslie Channon and John Kavaliauskas. Norman is

:58:13. > :58:17.resented the programme tomorrow. He will be looking at the inquest into

:58:18. > :58:25.private channel James at deep cut are, one of four young recruits who

:58:26. > :58:31.died there between 1995 and 2002. Thank you for watching.

:58:32. > :58:45.I can see Jordan and I can see LeBlanc.