09/06/2016

:00:00. > :00:19.Hello it's Thursday , it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:20. > :00:24.From Out to In - a senior Conservative MP has changed her mind

:00:25. > :00:28.Hello it's Thursday , it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:29. > :00:31.on how to vote in the EU referendum, Sarah Woolaston leads the health

:00:32. > :00:34.committee in Parliament and says that the Leave campaign's claims

:00:35. > :00:37.Of course I understand that politicians are not allowed

:00:38. > :01:02.to change their minds but real people do.

:01:03. > :01:06.More than 1 million people from Commonwealth countries living in the

:01:07. > :01:10.UK are eligible to vote. Held without charge

:01:11. > :01:12.for more than 2 months, we'll talk to the husband

:01:13. > :01:15.of the British Iranian woman who is in prison in Iran -

:01:16. > :01:26.she is struggling to walk Failing to do enough to protect

:01:27. > :01:29.against flooding. The Government is told it must do more.

:01:30. > :01:35.The Government is told it must do more.

:01:36. > :01:40.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:41. > :01:42.Our political guru is in Northern Ireland

:01:43. > :01:45.for us this morning, where two former Prime Ministers - John

:01:46. > :01:47.Major and Tony Blair - will speak later to say

:01:48. > :01:56.who backs Leave, has hit back and says their claims

:01:57. > :02:01.A little later in the programme we'll

:02:02. > :02:04.here from one man who wants to end his life through euthanasia -

:02:05. > :02:07.it's legal where he lives in Belgium and he exclusively tells us that

:02:08. > :02:10.depression connected to his sexuality and attraction

:02:11. > :02:14.to younger men leave him no option but to end his life.

:02:15. > :02:17.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:02:18. > :02:20.use the hashtag 'Victoria Live' and if you text, you will be charged

:02:21. > :02:27.Our top story this morning: A senior Conservative MP defects

:02:28. > :02:30.from the Leave Campaign to join the Remain Camp and an influential

:02:31. > :02:34.businessman comes out in favour of a Brexit.

:02:35. > :02:37.With two weeks to go until the once-in-a-generation

:02:38. > :02:40.referendum on EU membership, both campaigns are intensifying.

:02:41. > :02:44.Sarah Wollaston, a GP and Conservative member for Totnes

:02:45. > :02:47.says she was forced to switch sides because of misleading claims

:02:48. > :02:50.from the Leave Campaign about NHS spending.

:02:51. > :02:53.Meanwhile the chairman of JCB, Lord Bamford, has written to his UK

:02:54. > :02:58.employees to explain why he favours a vote to leave the European Union.

:02:59. > :03:01.He says he's "very confident that we can stand on our own two

:03:02. > :03:07.Our Political guru Norman Smith is in Northern Ireland.

:03:08. > :03:09.Norman, how significant is Sarah Wollaston's

:03:10. > :03:22.She may not be a household name, but she does matter because she is not

:03:23. > :03:27.your typical Tory. She is not someone who is identified as being

:03:28. > :03:30.part of one Tory tribe. When she announced a couple of months ago

:03:31. > :03:38.that she was throwing in her lot with Brexit, everybody went yes! She

:03:39. > :03:42.is not one of the usual suspects, she is an independent Tory, free

:03:43. > :03:47.thinking. When I first met her when she was thinking about becoming a

:03:48. > :03:52.Tory MP, she was in her local GP surgery in a small village in Devon

:03:53. > :03:57.and the reason she was getting into politics was because she was worried

:03:58. > :04:02.about alcohol abuse. She is a very different sort of Tory and seen as a

:04:03. > :04:08.bit of a weather vane. But she now feels, even though a couple of weeks

:04:09. > :04:12.ago she said she agreed there were issues around immigration and around

:04:13. > :04:17.the cost of being part of the EU and she did not like Project fear, she

:04:18. > :04:21.pretty much signed on the dotted line for the Brexit camp, she now

:04:22. > :04:27.feels the way they have presented their argument saying we had over

:04:28. > :04:32.350 million quid to the EU is an acceptable. That figure has been

:04:33. > :04:35.widely challenged and contested by the Treasury Select Committee, by

:04:36. > :04:43.the National statistics authority, and she now says, if I cannot hand

:04:44. > :04:47.out their leaflet saying we are paying 350 million quid, can I

:04:48. > :04:51.really honestly campaign for them? She has on that basis decided to

:04:52. > :04:58.switch camps. A lot in the Brexit camp are saying what is going on?

:04:59. > :05:02.Only a couple of weeks ago you agree with us and now you disagree with

:05:03. > :05:07.our PR strategy. But home move matters because it sends out a

:05:08. > :05:13.signal that some independent minded MPs are beginning to think more

:05:14. > :05:18.about their encounter. Lord Bamford has come out in support of Brexit, a

:05:19. > :05:23.prominent businessman. How much of a boost does that give to the lead

:05:24. > :05:31.campaign? We have had a succession of big businesses, we had the boss

:05:32. > :05:35.of Hitachi, Unilever, BMW, British Aerospace, all writing to their

:05:36. > :05:41.employees saying, do not leave the EU. The Brexit campaign will be

:05:42. > :05:46.thinking, thank God we have got our own person saying the opposite which

:05:47. > :05:51.is, relax, we are the fifth biggest country in the world and we can

:05:52. > :05:55.manage our own affairs. I think they will be very glad to have a riposte

:05:56. > :06:00.to that sort of succession of big business figures who seem to have

:06:01. > :06:06.been penning letters to employees saying, be careful if you want to

:06:07. > :06:08.leave. We will be speaking to Sarah Wollaston later. Let's catch up

:06:09. > :06:15.The EU referendum could face a legal challenge after the deadline

:06:16. > :06:18.for voter registration was extended until midnight tonight.

:06:19. > :06:20.The decision to extend was taken after the official website crashed,

:06:21. > :06:22.leaving tens of thousands of would-be voters

:06:23. > :06:29.But now the millionaire and funder of the Leave EU campaign,

:06:30. > :06:31.Arron Banks, says he's considering seeking

:06:32. > :06:37.A British tourist, who'd been missing in Vietnam

:06:38. > :06:40.since last Saturday, has been found dead.

:06:41. > :06:43.Park rangers discovered the body of 22-year-old Aiden Webb

:06:44. > :06:46.in Sin Chai village, in the north of the country.

:06:47. > :06:51.The 22-year-old had set off to climb Vietnam's highest mountain alone.

:06:52. > :06:53.Health inspectors have condemned a "chaotic" hospital emergency

:06:54. > :06:56.department which they say is failing to keep patients safe.

:06:57. > :07:00.The Care Quality Commission found long queues of ambulances outside

:07:01. > :07:03.the Queen Alexandra Hospital in Portsmouth, while patients

:07:04. > :07:05.with serious symptoms waited hours to be assessed.

:07:06. > :07:11.The hospital where there have been serious concerns

:07:12. > :07:17.Inspectors say the A unit at the Queen Alexandra in Portsmouth

:07:18. > :07:22.In its report, the Care Quality Commission highlights

:07:23. > :07:28.It said, in one day, a third of the local ambulance fleet

:07:29. > :07:31.was forced to queue outside because it was too busy for patients

:07:32. > :07:35.Inside, emergency patients waited in corridors,

:07:36. > :07:38.unassessed and unsupervised, and others were forced to wait

:07:39. > :07:45.The inspection was carried out at the hospital

:07:46. > :07:50.In one of the worst instances, a patient with a potentially

:07:51. > :07:54.life-threatening condition waited more than five hours to be assessed.

:07:55. > :07:57.We have asked the trust to take urgent and swift action to improve

:07:58. > :07:59.services for patients who come in for emergency care.

:08:00. > :08:03.This is really action that the trust needs to take,

:08:04. > :08:06.but they can't do this alone and will have to work

:08:07. > :08:08.with their partners across the system, across health

:08:09. > :08:13.and social care, across Portsmouth, to improve services for patients.

:08:14. > :08:15.The trust says it is working hard to make improvements.

:08:16. > :08:18.Portsmouth has been in the bottom four trusts in the country

:08:19. > :08:24.Today, the latest NHS performance figures are published for England.

:08:25. > :08:27.Last month again they showed record delays for patients.

:08:28. > :08:34.Sophie Hutchinson, BBC News, Portsmouth.

:08:35. > :08:37.Four people have been killed and six others wounded after two gunmen

:08:38. > :08:41.The attack took place in a busy shopping area close

:08:42. > :08:44.Police say the gunmen were Palestinians,

:08:45. > :08:51.The two attackers had been sitting in a bar where they got up

:08:52. > :08:55.and opened fire in this popular Tel Aviv hangout.

:08:56. > :08:59.Terrified diners rushed from Sarrona Market.

:09:00. > :09:03.There are families with small children.

:09:04. > :09:06.Ambulances took the injured away to hospital.

:09:07. > :09:09.This was one of the deadliest attacks in an upsurge in violence

:09:10. > :09:14.Tel Aviv security has been heightened.

:09:15. > :09:17.Israeli police say they have arrested two cousins,

:09:18. > :09:23.The young men were from Yatta, close to Hebron,

:09:24. > :09:28.The Israeli Prime Minister was quick to meet officials at the Defence

:09:29. > :09:35.Afterwards, he went to the scene of the shooting, just nearby.

:09:36. > :09:39.This is a savage crime of murder and terrorism in the heart of Tel

:09:40. > :09:49.It was done by criminal terrorists who do not value human life

:09:50. > :09:54.and are willing to murder innocent citizens who were sitting

:09:55. > :10:05.In total, more than 30 Israelis have been killed in the recent violence.

:10:06. > :10:09.About 200 Palestinians have been killed, most of whom,

:10:10. > :10:13.the Israeli authorities said were carrying out attacks.

:10:14. > :10:16.In the past few months, the wave of violence has subsided,

:10:17. > :10:21.but the latest shooting will bring back a sense of anxiety

:10:22. > :10:29.MPs are accusing the Government of failing to do enough to protect

:10:30. > :10:34.The Commons Environmental Audit Committee says more money needs

:10:35. > :10:37.to be spent on maintaining existing flood barriers, as well as

:10:38. > :10:43.The Department for Environment says it continues to spend record

:10:44. > :10:51.amounts, with more than ?2 billion set aside to bolster flood defences.

:10:52. > :10:53.It seems that the government has a reactive approach to flood

:10:54. > :10:56.defence spending, so cutting it and thinking it will be a painless cut,

:10:57. > :10:58.and then when flooding hits, reinvesting the money.

:10:59. > :11:00.That creates inefficiencies, because schemes are

:11:01. > :11:03.paused, then restarted which is inefficient.

:11:04. > :11:07.Then, the flood defence assets that are already in place

:11:08. > :11:18.A replica of the Jules Rimet World Cup trophy,

:11:19. > :11:20.owned by Brazilian footballing legend Pele, has been

:11:21. > :11:24.The Brazilian legend won three World Cup medals -

:11:25. > :11:29.Now he's selling off around 2,000 items

:11:30. > :11:35.The buyer of the famous cup has asked to remain anonymous.

:11:36. > :11:41.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9.30.

:11:42. > :11:48.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:11:49. > :11:56.We are talking about the defection of Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative

:11:57. > :11:57.MP on the EU referendum. She did want out, but now she wants to

:11:58. > :12:02.remain. Here's some sport now with Jess

:12:03. > :12:05.and the fall of Maria Sharapova. There's been strong reaction

:12:06. > :12:08.to Maria Sharapova and her two-year She says she's going

:12:09. > :12:14.to appeal the decision by the International Tennis

:12:15. > :12:16.Federation. It's caused a lot of

:12:17. > :12:19.discussion on social media. Tennis great Martina

:12:20. > :12:22.Nav-ratilova tweeted: Yikes! It will be hard to

:12:23. > :12:25.come back from this. And British player Heather Watson

:12:26. > :12:28.has questioned whether Our tennis correspondent

:12:29. > :12:41.Russell Fuller joins me, is this the end for Sharapova

:12:42. > :12:54.after so long at the top Russell? She won Wimbledon as a 17-year-old

:12:55. > :12:59.in 2004, and if her appeal is not successful, then the next grand slam

:13:00. > :13:06.she will be able to play will be the French open in 2018 when she will be

:13:07. > :13:09.31. For her, if unsuccessful when she challenges the verdict, to make

:13:10. > :13:14.a return to the top level of the game is quite hard to imagine. She

:13:15. > :13:20.has also had a history of injuries as well. But she will still believe

:13:21. > :13:24.she can get this ban reduced. The damning verdict from the

:13:25. > :13:27.International tennis Federation hearing will take some overturning.

:13:28. > :13:34.But there is precedent for these bans to be cut. Victor Trotsky and

:13:35. > :13:40.Marin Cilic in the last few years have had a four and six months taken

:13:41. > :13:44.of their bans. That is the final step. Whatever the Court of

:13:45. > :13:49.Arbitration in sport this site is binding. Do you think it is

:13:50. > :13:53.surprising that her sponsors have decided to stay with her? They have

:13:54. > :13:59.made a very big decision very quickly. Head have been incredibly

:14:00. > :14:05.pro-Sharapova and they have very much taken the fight about whether

:14:06. > :14:09.meldonium should be performing enhancing substance at all into the

:14:10. > :14:20.public domain. They have been challenging the world doping agency,

:14:21. > :14:27.saying their process is flawed. Nike distance themselves at the press

:14:28. > :14:32.conference, but they now say she has not taken it intentionally and they

:14:33. > :14:37.will stick by her. This is a very dangerous area for them. Yes, the

:14:38. > :14:42.panel did decide that she had not deliberately taking a banned

:14:43. > :14:47.substance and she was not aware it was on the banned list. But at the

:14:48. > :14:50.same time they're very clearly said in their summit up that they can

:14:51. > :14:57.only come to the conclusion that she took meldonium for the purpose of

:14:58. > :15:01.enhancing her performance. Will this have any effect on her standing in

:15:02. > :15:14.the tour, with the players? Will they look at her differently? Yes,

:15:15. > :15:18.in never inevitably they will. She is not a popular player. She does

:15:19. > :15:24.not make friends on tour and she keeps her private life and business

:15:25. > :15:27.life separate. And that will count against her to start with. The other

:15:28. > :15:31.issue is whether you think it is right to be able to take anything

:15:32. > :15:39.that is performance enhancing. Where do you draw the line? Players do it,

:15:40. > :15:43.players go into chambers to get hundred percent oxygen in their

:15:44. > :15:47.bodies after matches. Others may say training at altitude is pushing it

:15:48. > :15:49.too far. It comes down to what we think is acceptable and what we

:15:50. > :15:53.think is morally dubious. On to cricket, and while England's

:15:54. > :15:56.men prepare to face Sri Lanka at Lords today,

:15:57. > :15:58.in the 3rd and final test, the wicketkeeper for the women's

:15:59. > :16:01.team, Sarah Taylor, says she wants to shine a light on the issue

:16:02. > :16:04.of mental health after admitting she suffers

:16:05. > :16:05.from debilitating panic attacks. Taylor has made her name

:16:06. > :16:08.as one of the world's best female cricketers,

:16:09. > :16:26.but has had to walk away From my point of view, I don't want

:16:27. > :16:30.any stigma attached to what I call a mental injury. Strategies are in

:16:31. > :16:35.place to deal with this as there would be any physical injury. The

:16:36. > :16:40.fact you know people are going through the same thing, it is OK and

:16:41. > :16:48.it is normal, that has been the biggest insight for me and this is a

:16:49. > :16:53.journey for me, but I want it to be learning for other people that it's

:16:54. > :16:54.OK to go through something like this,

:16:55. > :16:54.journey for me, but I want it to be learning

:16:55. > :17:00.OK to go through something like this, but it's not OK to suffer in

:17:01. > :17:05.silence. We wish her all the best in her recovery. Actor you, Joanna.

:17:06. > :17:08.So both campaigns in the EU referendum have been boosted this

:17:09. > :17:10.morning by their new recruits - the senior Conservative MP

:17:11. > :17:13.Sarah Woolaston moving from Leave to Remain,

:17:14. > :17:15.and the leading businessman Lord Bamford from JCB coming out

:17:16. > :17:18.Exactly two weeks away from the referendum,

:17:19. > :17:20.emotions on both sides of the battle are running higher than ever.

:17:21. > :17:25.One of Margaret Thatcher's ministers John Nott

:17:26. > :17:28.is reported to have suspended his membership of the Tory Party

:17:29. > :17:31.in disgust at the way the prime minister has run the campaign.

:17:32. > :17:43.Why? Listening to all the arguments during the course of the campaign

:17:44. > :17:46.and because I chaired the health authority, people have been asking

:17:47. > :17:54.me if the NHS will be better or worse off if we remain or leave the

:17:55. > :17:58.EU. I have come to feel strongly, we are better off staying within the

:17:59. > :18:01.EU. A lot of people watching this will have received their postal vote

:18:02. > :18:09.and found themselves what is it going to feel like on the 24th of

:18:10. > :18:15.June if I wake up and we have voted to leave. I realised in my case, it

:18:16. > :18:20.wouldn't be a case of freedom or liberation, it would be a sense we

:18:21. > :18:24.had lost something. I think it was important to be honest about that

:18:25. > :18:28.decision and explain. You don't like the ?350 million figure that has

:18:29. > :18:36.been touted by the leader-macro campaign? That is not true. I have

:18:37. > :18:40.been telling voters leave this from the start. Right from the very

:18:41. > :18:44.beginning I have said they should describe it as a gross figure and

:18:45. > :18:52.they shouldn't be implying there would be an extra 350 million a week

:18:53. > :18:58.particularly to go to the NHS if we leave, because it doesn't take

:18:59. > :19:04.account of the rebate or the money that flows back from Europe in the

:19:05. > :19:07.other direction. And from somebody who has campaigned ever since I

:19:08. > :19:12.arrived in Parliament about honesty and data, I couldn't step on board a

:19:13. > :19:15.battle bus lowing it had a misleading figure at the heart of

:19:16. > :19:21.its campaign. The public deserve better from both sides. Has it been

:19:22. > :19:27.a dishonest campaign? There is an attitude that the ends justifies the

:19:28. > :19:32.means and it gets people talking about the figure. It is a big

:19:33. > :19:36.figure, even if you use the true, net figure. But the public deserves

:19:37. > :19:45.an honest articulation of the figures. The Remain company better?

:19:46. > :19:49.No, I think the public deserve better information. That has been

:19:50. > :19:54.the greatest, single core to me when I have been speaking to people, they

:19:55. > :20:01.don't know who to believe. They want to have an honest and open data and

:20:02. > :20:05.I don't think they have had enough of that. How would you describe this

:20:06. > :20:10.campaign, this voter we are being told is the most important vote in a

:20:11. > :20:13.generation. You are saying people are being told to make up their

:20:14. > :20:18.minds on the basis of flawed evidence on both sides? On my

:20:19. > :20:23.website, I have put links to the House of Commons live, and other

:20:24. > :20:31.sources people can find balanced and background information. It is also a

:20:32. > :20:35.hearts and minds debate. People have a variety of different things

:20:36. > :20:38.pulling them. As the campaign crystallises, it seems to me into an

:20:39. > :20:44.argument about the economy and immigration, I think the tone of

:20:45. > :20:48.some of the commentary around immigration has been upsetting. One

:20:49. > :20:53.thing that has upset me is the number of my constituents who are

:20:54. > :21:01.from the EU who have been telling me how it feels to be on the end of

:21:02. > :21:05.those comments. So has it been a floor debate on but basis, and what

:21:06. > :21:10.do we take from whatever the result is? People wanted better quality

:21:11. > :21:14.information and they should have had it from the start. A politician's

:21:15. > :21:21.job is to be honest and clear about the data, but respect the result. I

:21:22. > :21:27.would like to see politicians coming together to say they will promise

:21:28. > :21:33.they will respect the decision. You are coming out late and putting this

:21:34. > :21:38.out there, do you not have a duty to do this earlier. I have been doing

:21:39. > :21:44.this from the start. But you didn't actually come out at the start and

:21:45. > :21:48.say what you are saying now? Many factors have led to this decision.

:21:49. > :21:53.Like a lot of people I feel the EU is an imperfect institution and

:21:54. > :21:58.there were many things about the negotiation that disappointed me.

:21:59. > :22:02.There are important issues to do with sovereignty. As the campaign

:22:03. > :22:07.has gone on, listen to the weight of evidence, I have to ask myself,

:22:08. > :22:12.particularly as a doctor and who chairs the committee, is our health

:22:13. > :22:18.and health care system and the NHS going to be better off or worse if

:22:19. > :22:21.we leave. I think we will be worse off outside the EU. David has

:22:22. > :22:26.treated, we should respect all views, even if they change at the

:22:27. > :22:31.11th hour, Cameron has done it. Another tweet has said, but he has

:22:32. > :22:37.gone, this move will get her kicked out at the next election. Gavin has

:22:38. > :22:42.said, she was never for out. Plan damage control from David Cameron.

:22:43. > :22:48.Have you been lobbied by the remain side? Absolutely not. I explained my

:22:49. > :22:54.position to colleagues on both sides over the last couple of days. You

:22:55. > :23:01.have you spoken to? I have never sought a post or been offered one,

:23:02. > :23:07.that is completely not true. I have spoken to people on both sides, I

:23:08. > :23:13.have listened to the views of my constituents. I am only one vote out

:23:14. > :23:18.of many millions. You are a big prize for the Remain camp. Once you

:23:19. > :23:21.make a decision, it is right you explain it. I haven't been taking a

:23:22. > :23:28.prominent role in campaigning for either side. I think because what I

:23:29. > :23:33.would like to see is much clearer evidence presented to people to help

:23:34. > :23:36.them make up their minds. The job of politicians is to make sure that

:23:37. > :23:40.whatever the British people decide, we worked together constructively to

:23:41. > :23:47.make it happen. That is our key role in this. Have you spoken to David

:23:48. > :23:51.Cameron? I have, as a courtesy. I have spoken to Michael Gove and told

:23:52. > :23:56.my colleagues and my senior colleagues I have changed my mind

:23:57. > :24:00.and why. When did you speak to David Cameron? The day before yesterday,

:24:01. > :24:06.to let him know I was going to change and I spoke to Michael Gove

:24:07. > :24:11.yesterday. What did they say to you? They are private conversations, but

:24:12. > :24:15.there is no question, I have neither sought all been offered a post. It

:24:16. > :24:21.would be hugely disrespectful to people, to have anything that could

:24:22. > :24:26.imply that. Being a select committee chair is one of the best jobs in

:24:27. > :24:33.politics. Was David Cameron pleased to hear from you? I think, of

:24:34. > :24:36.course. Everyone campaigning for Remain is please. People are

:24:37. > :24:42.critical of politicians when they change their minds, but I think

:24:43. > :24:45.people are fed up of politicians who are incapable of changing their

:24:46. > :24:49.minds and don't listen to the arguments. Don't people have the

:24:50. > :24:57.right to expect their politicians, before we get to the end stages of a

:24:58. > :25:03.campaign as important as this one, to have listened to the fax and wake

:25:04. > :25:08.them up sooner and be able to trust everything they hear from the

:25:09. > :25:17.politicians at every stage? It is and -- and immensely complicated

:25:18. > :25:23.decision. Many people are in the same decision. Many people have said

:25:24. > :25:30.to me, I have got my postal vote and I don't know which box to put Mike

:25:31. > :25:34.Ross into. People will be walking into the polling booths still

:25:35. > :25:39.uncertain about which way to go. My plea is from both camps, we have

:25:40. > :25:46.clear, honest data for people to help them make up their mind. Do you

:25:47. > :25:57.think they have got it now? I am afraid they don't. Ultimately,...

:25:58. > :26:02.People are making up their minds on false information? They deserve

:26:03. > :26:07.better from both official campaigns. There are other sites they can get

:26:08. > :26:12.the information. It is not just about the factual information, it is

:26:13. > :26:17.a hearts and minds decision. It is a difficult decision. It is right

:26:18. > :26:22.people take it seriously and many other people will find they started

:26:23. > :26:27.in one place, then listening to the arguments, they find they are in a

:26:28. > :26:31.different position at the end of it. That is what democracy is about,

:26:32. > :26:37.that we have an important national debate. One thing I will say, if we

:26:38. > :26:42.do vote to remain, what we have to do is reset our relationship with

:26:43. > :26:48.Brussels. What hope of their is that once the vote has been had? In the

:26:49. > :26:54.way we connect with our European politicians. I used to go to public

:26:55. > :27:00.meetings and nobody could name a single MEP, certainly not their own

:27:01. > :27:07.local MEP. Can they now? People are now thinking about the EU and if we

:27:08. > :27:13.remain, engage with them. Will other MPs do what you have done, have you

:27:14. > :27:21.spoken to any? Of course, but it is for them to make their decision. How

:27:22. > :27:24.many? Have you spoken to many MPs who are thinking there public

:27:25. > :27:29.position doesn't reflect their private position? I know there are

:27:30. > :27:35.some MPs who will publicly state their position in the next few days.

:27:36. > :27:40.It is up to them to make their points other than me to say it on

:27:41. > :27:45.their behalf. It sounds staged managed? No, but many of my

:27:46. > :27:51.colleagues are very surprised. Another trigger for me, my father

:27:52. > :28:01.has just had a triple bypass, he is 81, he started working as a

:28:02. > :28:05.clearance diver during the war. He was pleading with me all the way up

:28:06. > :28:11.to the operating theatre doors to change my mind. A lot of us do take

:28:12. > :28:16.very seriously, the views of our families and our colleagues. My

:28:17. > :28:20.entire team, both in London and the constituency are voting to remain.

:28:21. > :28:25.My son, a scientist is voting to remain. All these views and the

:28:26. > :28:31.views of your constituents, built up over a campaign. If you are not

:28:32. > :28:35.prepared to say, actually I am in a different place now, you shouldn't

:28:36. > :28:41.be doing the job as a politician. Thank you for joining us. Let us

:28:42. > :28:42.know what you think on that and everything else we are talking about

:28:43. > :28:54.this morning. The British Iranian woman held

:28:55. > :29:00.for more than two months we'll talk to her husband

:29:01. > :29:05.about his fears for her health. And why Ed Sheeran is being sued

:29:06. > :29:07.for $20 million over his hit Now a summary of today's news

:29:08. > :29:10.from the BBC Newsroom. The Conservative MP,

:29:11. > :29:12.Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

:29:13. > :29:14.has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

:29:15. > :29:17.against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

:29:18. > :29:21.spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

:29:22. > :29:24.who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

:29:25. > :29:30.for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

:29:31. > :29:32.challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

:29:33. > :29:35.until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

:29:36. > :29:38.after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

:29:39. > :29:41.of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

:29:42. > :29:46.of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

:29:47. > :29:48.considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

:29:49. > :29:55.in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

:29:56. > :30:00.of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

:30:01. > :30:03.in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

:30:04. > :30:15.Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

:30:16. > :30:18.of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

:30:19. > :30:21.Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

:30:22. > :30:24.flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

:30:25. > :30:30.it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

:30:31. > :30:33.set aside to bolster flood defences. It seems that the government has

:30:34. > :30:35.a reactive approach to flood defence spending, so cutting it and

:30:36. > :30:38.thinking it will be a painless cut, and then when flooding hits,

:30:39. > :30:40.reinvesting the money. That creates inefficiencies,

:30:41. > :30:44.because schemes are paused, then restarted

:30:45. > :30:48.which is inefficient. Then, the flood defence assets that

:30:49. > :30:51.are already in place Health inspectors have condemned

:30:52. > :31:01.a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

:31:02. > :31:04.to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

:31:05. > :31:09.long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

:31:10. > :31:11.in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

:31:12. > :31:14.hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

:31:15. > :31:18.working to make improvements. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:31:19. > :31:41.News, we'll have more at 10.00. Maria Sharapova will appear her ban

:31:42. > :31:45.for using a prohibited drug. England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants to

:31:46. > :31:48.shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

:31:49. > :31:54.from debilitating panic attacks which caused her to take a break

:31:55. > :31:57.from the spot. Marcus Ratchford says his rise from Manchester United

:31:58. > :32:03.debut to England striker does not seem real. The 18-year-old says he

:32:04. > :32:06.was not even thinking about an international call-up. He played

:32:07. > :32:13.senior football for the first time in February. Join us at ten when we

:32:14. > :32:29.will have news of England's test against Australia.

:32:30. > :32:44.We have had lots of reaction from you. Madge says, engineered or what?

:32:45. > :32:50.Are there no depths that a politician would stoop to. The JCB

:32:51. > :32:56.boss has come out in favour of Brexit and you have hardly mentioned

:32:57. > :32:58.him. The nasty party are in disarray, so no wonder they have

:32:59. > :33:04.members who do not know whether they are coming or going. Who is she and

:33:05. > :33:11.who cares? Gordon has e-mailed and said part of the money could be used

:33:12. > :33:16.to support the NHS. What a sad woman who changed her mind. Roy says, to

:33:17. > :33:22.campaign to leave and then pulled this stunt is reprehensible. Gordon

:33:23. > :33:26.says this was nothing more than a premeditated attempt to undermine

:33:27. > :33:30.the Leave Campaign. She never intended to want to leave the EU and

:33:31. > :33:33.should be ashamed of herself. Keep your thoughts coming in on that and

:33:34. > :33:39.everything else we are talking about. Meanwhile, on the EU

:33:40. > :33:43.referendum that voter registration has been extended until midnight the

:33:44. > :33:47.night because of those technical issues ahead of the deadline

:33:48. > :33:54.expiring. The lead campaign are saying that is on the cusp of

:33:55. > :33:58.legality. And also more than a million people who are not British

:33:59. > :34:01.citizens could have a say in the result. People from Commonwealth

:34:02. > :34:04.countries living here are eligible to cast a ballot in the referendum,

:34:05. > :34:38.even though they may only be We can speak to some of them now.

:34:39. > :34:45.With result expected to be tight, every element of the voting will be

:34:46. > :34:51.scrutinised. You will get a say, even though you are not British

:34:52. > :34:57.citizens. I know you want to leave the EU, but would you say it is fair

:34:58. > :35:02.to claim that Commonwealth voters will be voting with one voice? It is

:35:03. > :35:10.fair because the Commonwealth has put a history with this country and

:35:11. > :35:15.we have got a history of contribution from the Commonwealth

:35:16. > :35:21.countries which has always been undervalued because of the European

:35:22. > :35:27.Union. We never look at the Commonwealth. Commonwealth people

:35:28. > :35:33.have fought for this moniker, laid their lives down for this country.

:35:34. > :35:39.My father fought in the Second World War and was a Commonwealth citizen.

:35:40. > :35:41.40,000 people have signed a petition to Parliament arguing that allowing

:35:42. > :35:46.Commonwealth citizens to vote goodbye as the result and are

:35:47. > :35:55.claiming that Commonwealth citizens will vote as a block. Commonwealth

:35:56. > :36:00.citizens not living here? Commonwealth citizens living here.

:36:01. > :36:05.They have got a right to vote. What do you think, Kylie? I think we

:36:06. > :36:09.should be voting, we live here, we pay taxes, we contribute to society.

:36:10. > :36:16.We have a long-standing history with England, so I do not see the

:36:17. > :36:19.problem. You have not exercised your right to vote previously. You have

:36:20. > :36:23.been here for six years and you could have voted in any election,

:36:24. > :36:29.but you have not, but you want to vote for this but in my I feel quite

:36:30. > :36:35.passionate for this. I want to remain. This will spur me to go

:36:36. > :36:41.through the process of registering so I can have my say. Why do you

:36:42. > :36:48.feel so strongly? We are all international citizens and I think

:36:49. > :36:52.England and London is the best city in the world because of the rich

:36:53. > :36:58.tapestry of culture and customs that make it up. I think leaving the EU

:36:59. > :37:04.would be a very sad thing. Gary, you think we should leave, why is that?

:37:05. > :37:09.We can never find out what is happening to the ?18 billion that we

:37:10. > :37:14.pay to Brussels. I have lived here since 1985. I pay my taxes, I still

:37:15. > :37:21.work hard. We never seem to be getting anything back. OK, I have

:37:22. > :37:26.not made the decision to become a British citizen yet, but I have

:37:27. > :37:30.still got the right to live here. On that point, why do you feel more

:37:31. > :37:34.passionately about having a say in the referendum and the future

:37:35. > :37:41.direction of this country than actually becoming a British citizen?

:37:42. > :37:46.Well, it is a piece of paperwork really. I am from Canada, my heart

:37:47. > :37:52.is in Canada even though I have lived here and worked here for the

:37:53. > :37:59.better part of my working life. I feel some people are not actually

:38:00. > :38:03.seeing what is really happening. I feel that there should be some

:38:04. > :38:07.movement. The money that is going to Brussels and we do not know how much

:38:08. > :38:13.we get back because the accounts are never signed off, if that money was

:38:14. > :38:18.given to the 400 odd parishes and councils to help replenish housing

:38:19. > :38:23.stock, to redevelop rural areas like where I live in Somerset, we need

:38:24. > :38:26.some serious funding. With the funding being cut from central

:38:27. > :38:32.Government, if that money was kicking around, it could help a lot

:38:33. > :38:36.of people. Brad, you are astray on and on a spousal Visa. You are

:38:37. > :38:43.voting, defend your right to vote. I pay taxes. One of the first things I

:38:44. > :38:50.did when I got here was to register to vote. I come from a country where

:38:51. > :38:57.it is compulsory to vote. Brits cannot vote in Australia. No, there

:38:58. > :39:01.they cannot and there are huge inequities in the system. I would

:39:02. > :39:05.like to vote leave out of spite because even though I am a member of

:39:06. > :39:10.the Commonwealth, I do not have the same rights as a citizen of the EU

:39:11. > :39:13.and that needs to be addressed. But in a longer term view, the thing

:39:14. > :39:20.that is in the best interest of my children is to remain. Why do you

:39:21. > :39:26.think that? Because I think what Europe brings to the UK is culture,

:39:27. > :39:35.diversity, a different way of thinking, and I think United we can

:39:36. > :39:40.help shape Europe into the potential that it has. If we remain on the

:39:41. > :39:45.outside and all we do is pick and moan about what they do in Europe,

:39:46. > :39:52.we will be ineffective. What do you think about the campaign? Have you

:39:53. > :39:56.been able to make up your minds on solid fats? Sarah Wollaston earlier

:39:57. > :39:59.has defected because she says she does not feel people have had the

:40:00. > :40:09.chance to hear that the facts from politicians. What she said was like

:40:10. > :40:15.a political stunt. In terms of whether you feel as a voter... What

:40:16. > :40:21.I feel is I have been affected by Europe, I have been badly affected

:40:22. > :40:29.by Europe, my housing is badly affected by Europe. Where I live in

:40:30. > :40:35.a small village in Kent there was a three GP surgery for about ten years

:40:36. > :40:41.and we have got 20,000 more people in this town and we have still got

:40:42. > :40:50.three in the surgery. My question is if we cannot accommodate all this

:40:51. > :40:59.influx of immigration, if you invite people to work here, how's them

:41:00. > :41:11.properly. I want my kids to be in education... Immigration is the key

:41:12. > :41:22.factor for you we have got millions of overcrowding. I want a handful of

:41:23. > :41:27.chefs to work in this country, they have loved the Government for the

:41:28. > :41:30.last 11 years, but we have got thousands of people coming from

:41:31. > :41:36.Europe no problem. They have got no skill, but they want to be employed

:41:37. > :41:39.in my business. How can I employ them in my business when they have

:41:40. > :41:48.no skill? It is the fact that European people

:41:49. > :41:58.have more rights? Australia has a system. Hold on two seconds. That is

:41:59. > :42:03.a valid point, but voting to leave on that basis is like trying to

:42:04. > :42:09.crack one with a sledgehammer. What we have is clearly a problem and

:42:10. > :42:12.what we need is reform. For a small island we cannot accommodate

:42:13. > :42:16.millions of people from everywhere. Our kids have to have a future.

:42:17. > :42:25.Leaving Europe is the best for our kids. Gary, you were going to make a

:42:26. > :42:31.point. It is the open borders system at the moment. If we leave the EU,

:42:32. > :42:35.we can then control our own borders and we can control who comes into

:42:36. > :42:38.the country. The Australian points system works perfectly for them and

:42:39. > :42:44.I do not see why it could not be brought into the UK. I agree with

:42:45. > :42:47.what you are saying and it is frustrating as the Commonwealth

:42:48. > :42:52.citizen to have such strict sanctions, but I do not believe

:42:53. > :42:57.leaving the EU will change that. Migration brings so much more

:42:58. > :43:03.benefit than it detracts. From an economic perspective migrants

:43:04. > :43:10.contribute more to taxes than they take away. I do not believe leaving

:43:11. > :43:13.is the answer. Thank you all very much. Let us hear your thoughts on

:43:14. > :43:21.Let us hear your thoughts on that as well.

:43:22. > :43:24.Coming up, we will be talking to a man who struggle with his sexuality

:43:25. > :43:27.means he You may remember that a few weeks

:43:28. > :43:33.ago we spoke to Richard Ratcliffe, his wife is being held

:43:34. > :43:36.without charge in prison in Iran. British Iranian Nazanin

:43:37. > :43:38.Zaghari-Ratcliffe was returning home after visiting relatives

:43:39. > :43:41.when she was detained more The couple have now spoken

:43:42. > :43:47.on the phone three times and Richard has learned that his wife has

:43:48. > :43:50.struggled to walk, frequently blacks Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe was travelling

:43:51. > :43:53.with the couple's young daughter who is still with her grandparents

:43:54. > :43:57.in Iran and has her second birthday There are thought to be

:43:58. > :43:59.four British-Iranian Let's talk to Nazanin's

:44:00. > :44:04.husband Richard Ratcliffe. We're also joined by Kamran Foroughi

:44:05. > :44:06.whose father Kamal has been in prison in Iran

:44:07. > :44:16.for more than five years. Richard, we met before. Your wife

:44:17. > :44:19.had been held for a month at that stage and was in solitary

:44:20. > :44:25.confinement. You have been able to speak to her. Firstly, I was able to

:44:26. > :44:29.speak to her briefly and learn about the conditions she was in. She was

:44:30. > :44:35.in solitary for 45 days and then came out of that. When she was in a

:44:36. > :44:39.group set up I could speak to her for a couple of conversations. When

:44:40. > :44:43.she came out, she was very weak and she was struggling to be able to

:44:44. > :44:48.walk without blacking out and it took a few days of walking every

:44:49. > :44:56.morning, exercise, to get her strength up. Since I revealed that,

:44:57. > :45:02.I have had a petition which I have put updates on. Since I revealed the

:45:03. > :45:07.conditions, she has been stopped from speaking to me and she has been

:45:08. > :45:12.transferred again. She is no longer speaking to her family either. How

:45:13. > :45:19.do you know she has been stopped? I cannot speak to her at all. She was

:45:20. > :45:27.not able to call me. She has not been able to speak to her family

:45:28. > :45:32.since Sunday, three days now. The last call she had on that Sunday she

:45:33. > :45:36.said she thought she was going to be released and now it has all gone

:45:37. > :45:43.quiet, so I am quite worried as to where she is at the moment. Tell us

:45:44. > :45:48.more about the transfer you believe has happened. I do not know anything

:45:49. > :45:53.at all. The previous pattern was that every day she was allowed to

:45:54. > :45:59.call. She said on the last day, I am going to be released. Every day she

:46:00. > :46:05.was talking to their parents? Yes, and that has stopped. That is either

:46:06. > :46:10.a good sign or a bad sign. It is not clear at all what is happening. When

:46:11. > :46:15.she was in isolation could she have contact with her parents? When she

:46:16. > :46:19.was in solitary confinement, she would be taken out for interrogation

:46:20. > :46:25.and at the end of the day when she had cooperated, she could make a

:46:26. > :46:30.telephone call. When she came out and went into a joint cell, she was

:46:31. > :46:34.able to call every day and she would queue up like the other prisoners

:46:35. > :46:40.and after a couple of hours she would be able to speak. How

:46:41. > :46:44.concerned are you now? Very worried. There is a lot of misinformation,

:46:45. > :46:55.but her family are terrified. You have those three conversations

:46:56. > :47:02.with her, are you any clearer about why she is being held? She wouldn't

:47:03. > :47:07.talk at all about the case. The role she had to observe is she wasn't

:47:08. > :47:12.allowed to discuss it. There are still no formal charges and she

:47:13. > :47:16.still hasn't had access to a lawyer, to my best knowledge. So, still no

:47:17. > :47:22.clearer. Who is she able to have contact with, is she being seen by

:47:23. > :47:27.any medical staff? Past few days, no contact with anyone. To my best

:47:28. > :47:31.knowledge, she had one family visit three weeks ago where she was taken

:47:32. > :47:37.out of solitary confinement and met in a hotel with her family. Has she

:47:38. > :47:41.seen a doctor, because it sounds quite serious health issues? She

:47:42. > :47:51.told me over the phone, that is how I know that. I am not sure she has

:47:52. > :47:55.seen a doctor. Cameron, you have an understanding of what Richard is

:47:56. > :48:01.going through because your father has been held in Iran for several

:48:02. > :48:06.years now. He has been held since 2011 and was sentenced to eight

:48:07. > :48:12.years in prison for spying. Is there any justification for him being

:48:13. > :48:16.imprisoned? No, we thought it was a big mistake from the beginning.

:48:17. > :48:21.Total shock when my father was taken in five years, one month ago. There

:48:22. > :48:25.has never been any evidence or explanation provided by the Iranian

:48:26. > :48:31.authorities. They have never publicly said anything about my

:48:32. > :48:36.father, zero paperwork. They have never mentioned his name in any

:48:37. > :48:40.correspondence. They have admitted privately to others and the Foreign

:48:41. > :48:47.Office they are holding him and that has basically been about it. Have

:48:48. > :48:52.you had much contact with him? Richard's story is bringing back the

:48:53. > :48:57.terrible memories. We had over three years of no contact. You have to

:48:58. > :49:05.bear in mind, my dad's family live over here, my step mother, his wife,

:49:06. > :49:10.two children, my sister and my two daughters all live in or near

:49:11. > :49:16.London. We haven't seen him for over five years now. Non-others feel

:49:17. > :49:20.confident to go back. We had three years from no contact with him

:49:21. > :49:25.whatsoever. He was occasionally, perhaps once every month or so,

:49:26. > :49:32.allowed to call a friend in Teheran, who would then call my stepmother to

:49:33. > :49:36.reassure us. There was a six-month period where it all went completely

:49:37. > :49:40.quiet. There have been a number of difficult periods we have had to

:49:41. > :49:46.live through. That was probably one of the worst. Also, when the news

:49:47. > :49:54.broke about the so-called trial in 2013, it was a total shock to all of

:49:55. > :49:59.us. We were fooled by the lack of news before, my father was in charge

:50:00. > :50:04.with anything for a year. He was then told he was charged, but wasn't

:50:05. > :50:10.told what he was charged with. Natural justice, surely even with a

:50:11. > :50:16.trial, they would realise there was a big mistake. That was the biggest

:50:17. > :50:23.challenge in 2013. Are you two being a support for each other through

:50:24. > :50:31.this? It has been good for me to have met him. What have you said to

:50:32. > :50:35.Richard, what he could do differently, if anything? It is

:50:36. > :50:40.always a matter of immediate family, we kept quiet about this for over

:50:41. > :50:46.four years. That was on the advice from the Foreign Office? It was

:50:47. > :50:52.initially on the advice of the Iranian side of family and friends.

:50:53. > :50:55.The time my dad was taken and the news of his trial there was a

:50:56. > :51:04.difficult political atmosphere between Iran, Greg written and many

:51:05. > :51:07.other countries. It was old-style politics. We were told if the

:51:08. > :51:13.Foreign Office gets involved it could be used as evidence against

:51:14. > :51:17.him. At the time, there was no diplomatic contact between the UK

:51:18. > :51:23.and around, it had been broken off after the British Embassy in Tehran

:51:24. > :51:28.was stormed in 2011. It didn't seem getting the UK involved was

:51:29. > :51:33.necessarily going to help. It is impossible, you are guessing. There

:51:34. > :51:38.is no rule book, it is absolute guesswork. I approached the Foreign

:51:39. > :51:45.Office soon after we heard about this trial. I was in total shock.

:51:46. > :51:51.Totally stunned. We are all living in shock, every morning you wake up

:51:52. > :51:56.and you cannot believe it has happened to your family. It makes no

:51:57. > :52:02.sense. That is how you feel, Richard? It has been a crazy

:52:03. > :52:08.experience. In terms of what to do, we have been doing lots of different

:52:09. > :52:13.campaigning. I don't know if it works or not. Are you getting much

:52:14. > :52:19.help from the Foreign Office? They have been a bit quiet recently,

:52:20. > :52:23.which may mean they are working on something. I wouldn't be critical of

:52:24. > :52:27.that. Certainly, going public was to try and raise the political profile

:52:28. > :52:36.and get the government to do what it can. Do you think it was right to go

:52:37. > :52:41.public? You cannot tell. When we went public she was brought out of

:52:42. > :52:46.solitary confinement and she had a family visit. So that was important.

:52:47. > :52:51.We will see what this next step means. In my guts, it felt like

:52:52. > :52:57.keeping quiet wasn't doing anything. There is no way of knowing what the

:52:58. > :53:01.right thing to do is. As things stand, you don't know if she has

:53:02. > :53:08.been moved, you think she has. There is no contact for now, what is your

:53:09. > :53:12.next move? Would you go to Iran? You said before you weren't sure whether

:53:13. > :53:17.you would? Not at the moment, until it is clear what is happening. The

:53:18. > :53:21.campaign is more affected with me here. The more I campaign, the more

:53:22. > :53:28.dangerous it is to go. Your daughter, is soon to be two? We will

:53:29. > :53:37.be celebrating at the weekend and we will have a party. That's right, at

:53:38. > :53:43.some point I need to find a way to bring her home. Bring them both home

:53:44. > :53:48.together. Will you be able to bring her home, cut her grandparents bring

:53:49. > :53:52.her home? At the moment her passport is with the Iranian authorities. The

:53:53. > :53:57.technical problem of getting every user to go over there. Under Iranian

:53:58. > :54:07.law only her mother or father could travel with her. It is not simple

:54:08. > :54:13.and also there is a risk of me being detained as well. Take it day by

:54:14. > :54:18.day. And that is all you can do? We have been doing that from the start.

:54:19. > :54:24.You try your best every day. What was the last contact you have with

:54:25. > :54:26.your father? Since the summer of 2014, emotionally, things are

:54:27. > :54:33.easier. We have had almost daily calls. I get the calls once a week

:54:34. > :54:46.on a Sunday morning. My daughters and I get to speak to grandpa Kamal.

:54:47. > :54:54.At one point we were told the conversations had to be in Iranian

:54:55. > :55:00.and we didn't speak it. I used to speak it when I was very young, now

:55:01. > :55:06.I need to keep it up. We lived in London and my dad was travelling, so

:55:07. > :55:11.we forgot it. I think he's very proud now that my daughters have

:55:12. > :55:17.learned about ten to 15 words, which they speak to him. He does speak

:55:18. > :55:22.perfect English. It has been a real pleasure to have the contact again.

:55:23. > :55:27.He is 76, how is the coping? He is the sort of person puts on brave

:55:28. > :55:37.face about things and never complains. They talk about... They

:55:38. > :55:41.are not allowed to talk about conditions all the calls. . So they

:55:42. > :55:47.never talk about conditions. You hear things like your father is

:55:48. > :55:53.going to be released in the next week. We have had our hopes raised

:55:54. > :55:58.and then lowered so many times. So then you will speak to him and he

:55:59. > :56:06.sounds down and depressed. He has had a medical a few weeks ago and he

:56:07. > :56:11.is pleased about that. That has been a positive step. Richard, finally,

:56:12. > :56:14.you described the impact on Nazanin physically, were you able to gauge

:56:15. > :56:19.her mental state? That is the hardest thing. I think this point

:56:20. > :56:24.she will do anything she can to get out. She said it is the hardest

:56:25. > :56:32.thing she has ever been through and wants to get back. Thank you both

:56:33. > :56:40.very much. Lots of you getting in touch on the defection of the

:56:41. > :56:46.Conservative MP from the Leave to the Remain. Stuart has said, giving

:56:47. > :56:51.her publicity. Richard has treated, she convinces no one. Someone has

:56:52. > :56:56.said what a great lady she is, how fair and honest. Christopher has

:56:57. > :57:00.e-mailed, what has changed her principled objections to remaining

:57:01. > :57:08.in that must have underpinned her support for vote Leave. Louise has

:57:09. > :57:14.e-mailed, another MP feathering her nest, strange and smiling. It is a

:57:15. > :57:19.fix and she has betrayed her Brexit colleagues. What a loser. An e-mail

:57:20. > :57:24.from John, a career politician too interested in her own political

:57:25. > :57:31.advance and is. Gordon has e-mailed has she been upset by the spinning

:57:32. > :57:35.of ?350 million? Amanda has treated, respect to Sarah Wollaston, it is

:57:36. > :57:43.not a crime to change your mind. Keep your thoughts coming in.

:57:44. > :57:57.What have you got for us today? On Tuesday we had flooding across

:57:58. > :58:04.Brighton and southern England. Look at these victors from Birmingham

:58:05. > :58:10.sent in by the viewer. Roads turning to rivers. I don't know if you

:58:11. > :58:15.managed to dodge the downpours in London? No, completely drenched.

:58:16. > :58:19.This was this morning, shows the other side of mother nature,

:58:20. > :58:27.beautiful start to the day, they clip showing the sunrise. Red sky in

:58:28. > :58:32.the morning, Shepherd's warning. Weather-wise, we are looking at a

:58:33. > :58:36.fine start for some but others are starting with extensive cloud and

:58:37. > :58:41.mist and fog patches. The cloud is beginning to break up and we're

:58:42. > :58:45.starting to see the sunshine burned through. When the sunshine has come

:58:46. > :58:49.out it will feel pleasantly warm. But you can see the extensive cloud

:58:50. > :58:55.we did have. The sky running down the eastern side will be slow to

:58:56. > :59:00.break up. So another few hours before the sun comes out here. Misty

:59:01. > :59:04.Anne Burkett weather across a good part of Northern Ireland, so another

:59:05. > :59:08.area slow to brighten up. Most of us will see some sunshine, but we will

:59:09. > :59:12.see scattered showers around. This time the showers are more likely to

:59:13. > :59:15.be across more northern part of the country, particularly over high

:59:16. > :59:20.ground. Central, Northern Wales, showers over the hills, maybe if you

:59:21. > :59:24.are the ones for the Cumbrian fells will stop over the Pennines,

:59:25. > :59:27.Southern uplands and the high ground in Scotland, we could cease showers

:59:28. > :59:31.but probably not too many through the belt. Where we do see the

:59:32. > :59:37.sunshine it will feel pleasantly warm. Temperatures between 22 and 24

:59:38. > :59:42.Celsius. We will see some change in the weather forecast over the next

:59:43. > :59:46.24 hours or so. Overnight, quite a bit of cloud. Showers fade away, but

:59:47. > :59:50.during the second part of the night, outbreaks of rain working into the

:59:51. > :59:55.south-west of England. That is the first sign of a change in the

:59:56. > :00:00.weather on the way. Temperatures in Manchester, falling no lower than 17

:00:01. > :00:03.degrees. We have a bit of cloud tomorrow, areas of rain pushing

:00:04. > :00:05.northwards and eastwards. Showery burst in the afternoon and probably

:00:06. > :00:10.staying dry towards the south-east. Temperatures coming down a little

:00:11. > :00:12.bit closer to normal for the time of year. Highs reaching 22 degrees.

:00:13. > :00:23.That is your weather. Hello, I'm Joanna Gosling

:00:24. > :00:25.in for for Victoria Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme

:00:26. > :00:27.if you've just joined us. Two former Prime Ministers

:00:28. > :00:35.will say leaving the EU together to back Remain

:00:36. > :00:42.but the Northern Ireland Secretary, who backs leave, has hit

:00:43. > :00:45.back saying their claims We speak to a man whose struggle

:00:46. > :00:57.with his sexuality has left him feeling like he has no other option

:00:58. > :01:00.than to end his life. And close to the summit of Everest,

:01:01. > :01:03.Leslie Binns abandoned his climb We'll hear from him and from

:01:04. > :01:13.the woman whose life he saved. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:01:14. > :01:20.with a summary of today's news. The Conservative MP,

:01:21. > :01:23.Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

:01:24. > :01:26.has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

:01:27. > :01:28.against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

:01:29. > :01:32.spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

:01:33. > :01:34.who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

:01:35. > :01:45.for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

:01:46. > :01:47.challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

:01:48. > :01:50.until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

:01:51. > :01:52.after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

:01:53. > :01:55.of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

:01:56. > :02:03.of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

:02:04. > :02:06.considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

:02:07. > :02:10.in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

:02:11. > :02:14.of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

:02:15. > :02:17.in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

:02:18. > :02:22.Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

:02:23. > :02:25.of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

:02:26. > :02:30.Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

:02:31. > :02:32.flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

:02:33. > :02:37.it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

:02:38. > :02:42.set aside to bolster flood defences. It seems that the government has

:02:43. > :02:45.a reactive approach to flood defence spending, so cutting it and

:02:46. > :02:50.thinking it will be a painless cut, and then when flooding hits,

:02:51. > :02:53.reinvesting the money. That creates inefficiencies,

:02:54. > :02:57.because schemes are paused, then restarted

:02:58. > :03:01.which is inefficient. Then, the flood defence assets that

:03:02. > :03:05.are already in place Four people have been killed,

:03:06. > :03:11.and six others wounded after two The attacks took place

:03:12. > :03:17.at a popular open-air shopping area in the city centre,

:03:18. > :03:20.close to Israel's defence ministry Police say the gunmen

:03:21. > :03:25.were from a Palestinian village Health inspectors have condemned

:03:26. > :03:32.a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

:03:33. > :03:34.to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

:03:35. > :03:37.long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

:03:38. > :03:39.in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

:03:40. > :03:42.hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

:03:43. > :03:48.working to make improvements. A replica of the Jules

:03:49. > :03:50.Rimet World Cup trophy, owned by Brazilian footballing

:03:51. > :03:53.legend Pele, has been The Brazilian legend won

:03:54. > :03:58.three World Cup medals - Now he's selling off

:03:59. > :04:02.around 2,000 items The buyer of the famous cup has

:04:03. > :04:09.asked to remain anonymous. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:10. > :04:23.News, more at 10.30. Coming up: Does the Government

:04:24. > :04:27.failed to do enough to protect people's lives and businesses before

:04:28. > :04:33.they are hit by flooding. We will talk to one MP who think so. And Ed

:04:34. > :04:35.shearer is being sued for $20 million. We will have the latest on

:04:36. > :04:42.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning.

:04:43. > :04:47.Maria Sharapova will appeal her two-year ban from tennis

:04:48. > :04:52.The five-time Grand Slam winner says the judgement by

:04:53. > :04:59.the International Tennis Federation was "unfairly harsh".

:05:00. > :05:06.Her sponsors have decided to continue to support her. The next

:05:07. > :05:13.grand slam she will be able to play in will be at the age of 31 at the

:05:14. > :05:17.French Open in 2018. For her, if unsuccessful when she challenges the

:05:18. > :05:21.verdict, to make a return to the top level of the game is hard to

:05:22. > :05:27.imagine. She has also had a history of injuries. But she will still

:05:28. > :05:32.believe that she can get this ban reduced. The damning verdict from

:05:33. > :05:33.the International tennis Federation's independent hearing

:05:34. > :05:40.will take some overturning. England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants

:05:41. > :05:43.to shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

:05:44. > :05:47.from debilitating panic attacks, that have caused her to take

:05:48. > :05:57.an indefinite break from the sport. She had made her name as one of the

:05:58. > :06:03.world's Best female cricketers. From my point of view I do not want any

:06:04. > :06:07.stigma attached from any anxiety, depression, mental health or, I call

:06:08. > :06:11.it a mental injury, because the same strategies are in place to deal with

:06:12. > :06:15.this as they would be for any physical injury. The fact you know

:06:16. > :06:19.other people are going through the same thing and it is OK and normal,

:06:20. > :06:26.that has been the biggest insight for me and it is a journey for me. I

:06:27. > :06:31.want it to be a learning for other people that it is OK to go through

:06:32. > :06:37.something like this, but it is not OK to suffer in silence. A big test

:06:38. > :06:43.for the England team who begin their test against Australia on Saturday.

:06:44. > :06:47.The team thrashed them at the World Cup in October. Our reporter is in

:06:48. > :06:52.Brisbane. The England squad will be announced in the next few minutes.

:06:53. > :06:57.Any surprises? There are some interesting calls as expected by the

:06:58. > :07:00.coach Eddie Jones. At fly-half he has gone in for Owen Farrell and

:07:01. > :07:06.George Ford has been left out. Luther Burrell gets the nod in the

:07:07. > :07:13.number 12 shirt. A really big call on the wing where Jack Nowell has

:07:14. > :07:19.been left out with Marlin Yard starting. Apart from that, their

:07:20. > :07:29.pack is as expected, the same starting forward pack that played

:07:30. > :07:33.against France in March. Rob Shaw, Haskel and Billy Vunipola are in the

:07:34. > :07:39.back three. The England camp are being quite candid and saying this

:07:40. > :07:46.match is a must win match. Thank you for the update. Back to you.

:07:47. > :07:49.Our top story this morning - a senior Conservative MP defects

:07:50. > :07:52.from the Leave Campaign to join the Remain Camp and an influential

:07:53. > :07:54.businessman comes out in favour of a Brexit.

:07:55. > :07:58.With two weeks to go until the once in a generation

:07:59. > :08:00.referendum on EU membership - both campaigns are intensifying.

:08:01. > :08:03.Sarah Wollaston, a GP and Conservative member for Totnes

:08:04. > :08:05.says she was forced to switch sides because of misleading

:08:06. > :08:08.claims from the Leave campaign about NHS spending.

:08:09. > :08:12.Meanwhile the chairman of JCB, Lord Bamford has written to his UK

:08:13. > :08:16.employees to explain why he favours a vote to leave the European Union.

:08:17. > :08:19.He says he's "very confident that we can stand on our

:08:20. > :08:33.Let's go to Norman Smith. How important are these interventions?

:08:34. > :08:39.They matter because Sarah Wollaston is one of those MPs who is regarded

:08:40. > :08:43.as not a typical Tory. She tends to make her own mind up, she is not

:08:44. > :08:48.part of any particular Tory tribe, so when she threw in her lot with

:08:49. > :08:52.the Brexit Brigade they were delighted. She is somebody who is

:08:53. > :08:58.not associated with one of the usual suspects and she was on their team.

:08:59. > :09:04.She seemed to sign up to all their basic arguments around sovereignty,

:09:05. > :09:14.immigration, the cost of the EU. Now, however, she said she has

:09:15. > :09:16.concerns. She is worried this argument which the Brexit brigade

:09:17. > :09:20.are making that we send ?350 million a week to the EU, that is not true.

:09:21. > :09:23.She says she cannot go out and campaign for them if she is having

:09:24. > :09:30.to put out leaflets which she does not believe in. As for the JCB bass

:09:31. > :09:36.writing saying, we can do fine outside the EU, I think relief on

:09:37. > :09:41.the Brexit side. We have had a whole series of big business figures like

:09:42. > :09:45.Hitachi, Unilever, British Aerospace, all going the other way

:09:46. > :09:51.and writing to their employees and saying we have to be careful about

:09:52. > :09:55.leaving the EU. Relief for the Brexit Brigade on that side and

:09:56. > :10:03.disappointment on the other side. Meanwhile, this morning my colleague

:10:04. > :10:09.Eleanor Ghani has been to the Leave Campaign team in London. We are in

:10:10. > :10:15.Wembley at a Hindu temple where Priti Patel has been invited to come

:10:16. > :10:18.along. I can ask personal questions. Sarah Wollaston, one of the

:10:19. > :10:23.Conservative MPs who had been campaigning to leave the EU, is no

:10:24. > :10:28.switching sides. That is hugely damaging for your side of the

:10:29. > :10:33.campaign. I do not think it is. Sarah has a range of views and

:10:34. > :10:38.opinions as a member of Parliament, but about the 350, we have been

:10:39. > :10:44.crystal clear that that is the gross figure and that is money, that is UK

:10:45. > :10:48.tax payers' money that is given to the European Union, it is money that

:10:49. > :10:53.goes over to the EU which we have no control over. We have been making

:10:54. > :10:59.the point during this campaign that we want to take back control of our

:11:00. > :11:03.money and make sure it is spent on priorities, local priorities like

:11:04. > :11:10.the NHS, education and our public services. It is not just the figures

:11:11. > :11:15.she disagrees with, she said it is false, but there are other reasons

:11:16. > :11:21.she wants now to stake in the EU. It is embarrassing for your campaign.

:11:22. > :11:24.On the contrary, everyone has their own views and Sarah is entitled to

:11:25. > :11:30.make up her own mind like the public. But the vote in this

:11:31. > :11:37.referendum is about taking back control from the European Union,

:11:38. > :11:40.from the institutions, controlling our borders, controlling immigration

:11:41. > :11:45.and standing up for the United Kingdom, rather than being dictated

:11:46. > :11:48.to by the institutions of the European Union and these are

:11:49. > :11:56.fundamental issues that this referendum is about. We have got

:11:57. > :12:00.Tony Blair and so John Major raising constitutional questions in Northern

:12:01. > :12:05.Ireland about if we voted to leave the European Union are dangers that

:12:06. > :12:08.would be for the peace process in Northern Ireland and wider

:12:09. > :12:14.constitutional questions. That is a big thing for you to answer. Theresa

:12:15. > :12:19.Villiers, the Secretary for Northern Ireland, has been clear that the

:12:20. > :12:22.peace process in Northern Ireland is rock solid. I do not think the

:12:23. > :12:26.assumption is that the former prime ministers are making our right ones.

:12:27. > :12:31.Theresa Villiers has worked incredibly hard as Secretary of

:12:32. > :12:37.State to ensure that. She is saying it is very solid and it is the wrong

:12:38. > :12:42.assumption to make. If we voted to leave, we would have to put up

:12:43. > :12:44.borders and they would have to be customs controls between the

:12:45. > :12:50.Republic and Northern Ireland, so what would happen? Nothing would

:12:51. > :12:54.change. Northern Ireland and the whole of the United Kingdom would be

:12:55. > :13:03.stronger and more prosperous outside of the EU because we would be in

:13:04. > :13:08.control of our decision-making, our borders and our finances as well.

:13:09. > :13:13.That's my colleague talking to Priti Patel. I am in Northern Ireland this

:13:14. > :13:18.morning for that joint speech with John Major and Tony Blair. There is

:13:19. > :13:21.a slightly odd couple feel to it. It will be interesting to see what

:13:22. > :13:25.happens there. Well we can talk now to the former

:13:26. > :13:28.head of the British Chambers of Commerce John Longworth,

:13:29. > :13:30.who's been busy campaigning He left his post after coming out

:13:31. > :13:43.in favour of Brexit Thank you for joining us. Lord

:13:44. > :13:48.Bamford has written to his employees in the UK to say why he favours a

:13:49. > :13:54.bow to leave the European Union, is that a boost for your side? It is

:13:55. > :14:01.great that he has chosen to do this as an individual. We have got over

:14:02. > :14:04.500 entrepreneurs and business owners sign up who are supporting

:14:05. > :14:10.the Leave Campaign and they are doing it as individuals. We are not

:14:11. > :14:14.doing what the Remain Campaign is doing, which is writing to employees

:14:15. > :14:20.and intimidating them and suggesting it would be bad for their jobs if

:14:21. > :14:25.they do not remain. Do the businesses compete with the likes of

:14:26. > :14:33.the business is coming out on the side of staying? BMW, BAE Systems, a

:14:34. > :14:39.lengthy list of some of the biggest businesses in the country. There is

:14:40. > :14:44.a whole bunch of businesses supporting our campaign, both large

:14:45. > :14:49.and small. The biggest survey showed that the business opinions shifted

:14:50. > :14:54.to our side. The British Chambers of commerce did a survey that looked at

:14:55. > :14:59.businesses that exported only outside the European Union and those

:15:00. > :15:04.only in the UK. The majority of those want to leave the European

:15:05. > :15:10.Union and they make up 87% of the economy and 94% of businesses. The

:15:11. > :15:13.British Chambers of commerce statistics say 54% of members

:15:14. > :15:17.overall would vote remain, it is down from a previous figure which

:15:18. > :15:22.was higher, but the British Chambers of commerce' point is it tends to be

:15:23. > :15:28.the smaller firms with fewer than ten staff who are in favour Brexit.

:15:29. > :15:35.There is a whole mix of visitors who voted to leave. The fact the survey

:15:36. > :15:38.overall had a majority to remain is because it had a much higher

:15:39. > :15:45.proportion of businesses who export to Europe in the survey done in the

:15:46. > :15:49.economy as a whole. The business standing up for the Prime Minister's

:15:50. > :16:00.campaign tend to be those who rely on Government contracts.

:16:01. > :16:07.But they are companies bringing in investments and creating jobs. We

:16:08. > :16:15.have heard from Hitachi saying because of except, economists could

:16:16. > :16:19.hold back. There is no evidence that investment in the UK will be

:16:20. > :16:24.falling. Like they said scrap the pound and joined the euro. They said

:16:25. > :16:30.they would leave the UK and disinvest. But we went from strength

:16:31. > :16:34.to strength. Hitachi is highly dependent on government contracts.

:16:35. > :16:36.What is remarkable is how the Prime Minister has shown disregard for

:16:37. > :16:42.ordinary working people, who are suffering because of membership

:16:43. > :16:49.under the EU, public services put under pressure, wages fall. He is

:16:50. > :16:54.siding with the European elites. Can you guarantee in the short-term jobs

:16:55. > :16:59.wouldn't be lost as a result of a Brexit rush to mark we will have

:17:00. > :17:02.safer jobs and a more prosperous economy by embracing the globe and

:17:03. > :17:08.trading with the world. How long would it take to get, in your view,

:17:09. > :17:13.to that situation? The head of the World Trade Organisation says there

:17:14. > :17:16.would be uncertainty and uncertainty is always unhelpful for the economy.

:17:17. > :17:22.The Federal Reserve is warning Britain leaving could have serious

:17:23. > :17:25.repercussions. It is amazing how much political capital the Prime

:17:26. > :17:29.Minister has used in persuading his friends around the world to back

:17:30. > :17:36.him. I wonder what price we will have to pay for that in the future.

:17:37. > :17:39.The Prime Minister has spent his time talking down Britain and

:17:40. > :17:41.producing the uncertainty and stability happening at the moment.

:17:42. > :17:45.The day after independent state the Prime Minister will have to reverse

:17:46. > :17:48.everything he has said and admits Britain will have a great future

:17:49. > :17:54.outside the EU. Do you think when you hear the head of the World Trade

:17:55. > :18:02.Organisation saying, I would be uncertainty, it is a lie? A year

:18:03. > :18:05.ago, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said the World Trade Organisation

:18:06. > :18:08.cannot be relied upon because they get their forecasts wrong. Is it

:18:09. > :18:17.true that there would be uncertainty in the event of a Brexit? There

:18:18. > :18:21.would be... As the head of the Remain campaign said, Lord Rose,

:18:22. > :18:27.said there would be a gradual and managed change if we leave the EU.

:18:28. > :18:32.Nothing dramatic will happen. We have a long period of time in which

:18:33. > :18:36.to decide what we do. We can withdraw from the European Union

:18:37. > :18:41.gradually. So there will be some movement in the markets for a week

:18:42. > :18:46.or two, then it will settle down because the real economy will go

:18:47. > :18:52.from strength to strength. Which significant economists on the world

:18:53. > :19:00.stage are backing that view? We had a massive report reduced by 25

:19:01. > :19:07.leading economists, all saying if we were to leave the EU, and the Prime

:19:08. > :19:12.Minister's adviser ran an organisation called Open Europe who

:19:13. > :19:21.said if the UK adopted the right policies, we could have more growth

:19:22. > :19:26.outside the EU. The WTO has a head who is being investigated for fraud

:19:27. > :19:32.and a prior head who is being investigated for sexual misconduct.

:19:33. > :19:38.What type of organisation is this. It is not clear what would happen,

:19:39. > :19:43.even in a gradual leaving. Trade agreements, nothing would change,

:19:44. > :19:49.but there is no actual certainty what you would want to see happen,

:19:50. > :19:52.would happen? If you have maximum uncertainty and maximum risk, stay

:19:53. > :20:01.in the European Union because only one of two things can happen. The EU

:20:02. > :20:05.will consolidate and we will be left on the margins, paying the bills and

:20:06. > :20:10.swallowing the regulations without any say. Or as Lord Mervyn King has

:20:11. > :20:17.said, the euro zone will explode and you don't want to be in the same

:20:18. > :20:22.room when that goes off because we will end up paying for it and

:20:23. > :20:26.clearing up the mess. If you want uncertainty, then vote to remain,

:20:27. > :20:30.but if you want certainty, let's leave and take control of our

:20:31. > :20:33.affairs. You have been personal about figures involved in the

:20:34. > :20:38.campaigning, overall, do you think voters have been well served about

:20:39. > :20:42.what they have heard on both sides, are they getting clear facts? Does

:20:43. > :20:51.it oil down to, that side is lying, that site is lying, in the end who

:20:52. > :20:57.do you believe? It is difficult. One of the reasons I resigned is I was

:20:58. > :20:59.appalled in which the wake of Prime Minister had decided to become a

:21:00. > :21:02.campaigning organisation rather than putting both sides to the people and

:21:03. > :21:05.started intimidating and frightening people. This campaign has been run

:21:06. > :21:09.in an appalling fashion and issues now around voting slips being sent

:21:10. > :21:14.out to people for whom it is illegal to vote. People from the European

:21:15. > :21:20.Union who should not have had those voting slips. My view is this, and I

:21:21. > :21:27.have said it in a newspaper article, people don't know what to do, I

:21:28. > :21:32.don't live who to believe. I say, in those circumstances, judge a person

:21:33. > :21:35.by the company he keeps. I keep the company of two former chancellors of

:21:36. > :21:39.the exchequer, a Foreign Secretary and the former governor of the Bank

:21:40. > :21:44.of England, who are beholding to nobody. The other side have a bunch

:21:45. > :21:48.of people who are signed up to the European elite, funded by the EU or

:21:49. > :21:54.dependent on government contracts. Thank you very much for joining us.

:21:55. > :21:56.Let us know what you think on that and everything else we are talking

:21:57. > :21:59.about. At the end of last year,

:22:00. > :22:02.large parts of the north of England, Scotland and areas

:22:03. > :22:06.of Northern Ireland were deluged Homes were destroyed

:22:07. > :22:10.and livelihoods lost. In response the Government promised

:22:11. > :22:12.?2.3 billion to help strengthen existing flood defences

:22:13. > :22:14.and start the building of new ones. But six months on, how

:22:15. > :22:16.are communities recovering and are people's homes

:22:17. > :22:18.and and businesses any closer A new report by Members

:22:19. > :22:23.of Parliament on the Environment Audit Committee claims

:22:24. > :22:25.the government's failed in helping the people that need the most

:22:26. > :22:28.and that the cash promised isn't Let's have a look back at some

:22:29. > :22:33.of the destruction the storms caused In the studio is Mary Creagh

:22:34. > :23:25.MP who is the Chair From Carlisle, are homeowner

:23:26. > :23:35.Tom Armstrong who's home was badly damaged by flood waters

:23:36. > :23:38.and still hasn't been repaired. And Phil King is from

:23:39. > :23:40.Carlisle Football Club - their ground was also hit but is in

:23:41. > :23:50.the process of being repaired. Mary Creagh, have people been let

:23:51. > :23:54.down? We think so. The government tried to cut flood defences at the

:23:55. > :23:58.start of the parliament and then only put it back in when a

:23:59. > :24:02.devastating flood occurs, and this year when they put an extra 700

:24:03. > :24:08.million into the budget after the winter floods. First of all we don't

:24:09. > :24:12.build the flood defences we need, we don't get that value for money and

:24:13. > :24:16.we don't look after the flood defences we have. What that means

:24:17. > :24:21.is, communities in areas thing, we have these flood defences, we will

:24:22. > :24:26.be OK. Those defences fail when there is a flood, as we saw in York.

:24:27. > :24:29.It is an unacceptable risk. Your committee thinks the government is

:24:30. > :24:34.playing politics with funding for flood defences? The Minister said

:24:35. > :24:38.the extra money was put in as a political calculation. And it

:24:39. > :24:42.wouldn't be spent according to the normal cost benefit analysis. It

:24:43. > :24:46.runs the risk of tax payers money not being spent well, poor

:24:47. > :24:51.decision-making and geographical unfairness, as the areas that shall

:24:52. > :24:55.the loudest do the best out of the programme. All budgets, barring a

:24:56. > :25:01.couple that have been ring fenced, have been cut. This budget obviously

:25:02. > :25:05.is no different from those, but money has been found when required.

:25:06. > :25:09.Are you saying the money for flooding should be completely ring

:25:10. > :25:15.fenced and protected as some other departments have been? The reviews

:25:16. > :25:19.after the flooding in 2007 said that funding needs to go up more than

:25:20. > :25:24.inflation year on year. This government in 2010 cut the flood

:25:25. > :25:28.defence budget by 30%. It meant critical flood assets were not

:25:29. > :25:33.maintained to the correct standard. We think it is completely wrong.

:25:34. > :25:38.There are other areas, the area of local authorities not planning for

:25:39. > :25:42.flood risks. We found a third of local authorities did not have a

:25:43. > :25:49.plan to present to the government to say, this is what we will do in the

:25:50. > :25:53.event of a flood hitting our town or area. The final thing is critical

:25:54. > :25:56.infrastructure. We see roads and bridges washed away, devastation on

:25:57. > :26:00.the transport net work, substations going down. We want the government

:26:01. > :26:04.to give the energy, transport and telephone companies to protect those

:26:05. > :26:11.assets from flooding, so when we have a flood, we don't have radio

:26:12. > :26:15.silence and the police, firefighters and ambulance cannot respond. Tom

:26:16. > :26:22.Armstrong, your house in colli was badly damaged, tell us what the

:26:23. > :26:30.extent of the damage has been? I was about chest deep in my house. The

:26:31. > :26:36.house has been stripped out and dry but because of my loss adjuster,

:26:37. > :26:42.there has been no decision as to the figure for reinstating. I am still

:26:43. > :26:47.in a rental property, no further on than I was four months ago. Where

:26:48. > :26:52.there are issues prior to the flooding where you live on flood

:26:53. > :26:59.defences? Will it make any difference? In Carlisle they spent

:27:00. > :27:02.around 30 million on flood defences and we were considered a low risk

:27:03. > :27:09.area. Prior to this, we didn't believe there were problems. Do you

:27:10. > :27:14.think anything could have been done differently, or is this a force of

:27:15. > :27:20.nature? I think the flood defences could have been better, from what we

:27:21. > :27:24.were told. The Environment Agency raised flood defences to the height

:27:25. > :27:29.of the water of the last floods. This time it was worse and it

:27:30. > :27:32.reached the barrier. I think the Environment Agency could have done

:27:33. > :27:39.more. We are seeing pictures of your home as we talk to you. Yes.

:27:40. > :27:45.Obviously it looks completely devastating, what has it been like

:27:46. > :28:00.living through that? It has not been fantastic. The insurance company Axa

:28:01. > :28:03.are making it very difficult. I am self-employed and I am being asked

:28:04. > :28:10.to substantiate my contents list again. The first time, I understand.

:28:11. > :28:19.The second time, I am not happy, but I have done it. Now I have had to do

:28:20. > :28:22.it a fourth time. It is affecting my business, having to take time out

:28:23. > :28:29.trying to find ways to substantiate it again, again and again. Mary, you

:28:30. > :28:35.are nodding when you heard what was going on with the insurance company?

:28:36. > :28:40.Wakefield, my constituency, was flooded in 2007. Some insurance

:28:41. > :28:45.companies are great but others put a series of road box in front of the

:28:46. > :28:52.householder. They increase the flooding premium and for people who

:28:53. > :28:56.have to claim, they find their insurance premiums going up or

:28:57. > :29:00.access is rising also we have from one business in the Calder Valley,

:29:01. > :29:08.whose access on the flood premium had gone up from ?1000 to ?250,000.

:29:09. > :29:14.Can you blame the insurance companies, they face a massive hit.

:29:15. > :29:17.Somebody has to pay for this and is secure better than prevention?

:29:18. > :29:22.Insurance plays an important part. The government has put in place a

:29:23. > :29:27.new scheme for homeowners to get affordable insurance. Many people

:29:28. > :29:31.who have been flooded once or twice find they can no longer afford the

:29:32. > :29:39.insurance premiums. But that doesn't cover businesses. Carlisle United

:29:40. > :29:43.Football Club, how have you been affected? It has had a massive

:29:44. > :29:49.impact. We were able to move quite quickly in the early phase, in terms

:29:50. > :29:55.of getting football back. We were forced to play three games, which

:29:56. > :30:01.should have been home games, away at other clubs. We were keen to get

:30:02. > :30:05.back in quickly, which we did on the 23rd of January. We were able to

:30:06. > :30:09.make decisions on a day-to-day basis. But what has followed has

:30:10. > :30:14.been a long, drawn-out process, which we are still going through and

:30:15. > :30:18.will be for the next few months in terms of reinstating areas like

:30:19. > :30:22.offices and revisiting some of the public areas, the changing rooms,

:30:23. > :30:30.redoing the pitch. There is still a lot of work to do six months on and

:30:31. > :30:34.there will be for the next few months. You have a chance to speak

:30:35. > :30:38.directly to Mary Creagh MP about what potentially could be done in

:30:39. > :30:47.future to make the lives of people where you are, easier.

:30:48. > :30:54.The flood defences in this area were pretty devastating and people

:30:55. > :31:00.thought we were comfortable and safe and the flood defences are at the

:31:01. > :31:04.back of the park and they have stop water coming through in the last

:31:05. > :31:13.nine or ten years, but it was a massive deluge. From our point of

:31:14. > :31:18.view we are in a position like a homeowner were in the park is a big

:31:19. > :31:23.facility, a big operation and it was a massive disruption on our season

:31:24. > :31:33.and we are in a position to ask Will this happen again? Perhaps it could.

:31:34. > :31:37.Let us know your thoughts on that. Lots of you getting in touch about

:31:38. > :31:43.Sarah Wollaston's decision to switch sides in the EU referendum debate.

:31:44. > :31:46.Jeff has tweeted, can you trust anyone who has no real conviction

:31:47. > :31:55.and who can change opinion at the moment's notice? I do not. Someone

:31:56. > :32:00.else has said, it is a shame she changed sides, Brexit is the only

:32:01. > :32:05.way out. Stewart tweets, what crime has she committed? Another one is

:32:06. > :32:07.sometimes it is good to see that politicians are in a different

:32:08. > :32:11.place. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:32:12. > :32:15.with a summary of today's news. The Conservative MP,

:32:16. > :32:17.Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the Commons Health Committee,

:32:18. > :32:19.has switched to the Remain camp. The defection is in protest

:32:20. > :32:22.against what she sees as "untrue" Leave claims about increases in NHS

:32:23. > :32:25.spending in the event of a Brexit. The Tory MP, John Redwood,

:32:26. > :32:28.who wants Britain to leave the EU, insists that money would be freed up

:32:29. > :32:31.for the health service. The EU referendum could face a legal

:32:32. > :32:34.challenge after the deadline for voter registration was extended

:32:35. > :32:36.until midnight tonight. The decision to extend was taken

:32:37. > :32:39.after the official website crashed, leaving tens of thousands

:32:40. > :32:42.of would-be voters But now the millionaire and funder

:32:43. > :32:47.of the Leave EU campaign, Arron Banks, says he's

:32:48. > :32:50.considering seeking A British tourist who'd been missing

:32:51. > :32:55.in Vietnam since last Saturday, Park rangers discovered the body

:32:56. > :33:00.of 22-year-old Aiden Webb in Sin Chai village,

:33:01. > :33:03.in the north of the country. The 22-year-old had set off to climb

:33:04. > :33:10.Vietnam's highest mountain alone. MPs are accusing the government

:33:11. > :33:13.of failing to do enough to protect The Commons Environmental Audit

:33:14. > :33:17.Committee says more money needs to be spent on maintaining existing

:33:18. > :33:19.flood barriers, as well as The Department for Environment says

:33:20. > :33:24.it continues to spend record amounts, with more than ?2 billion

:33:25. > :33:30.set aside to bolster flood defences. Health inspectors have condemned

:33:31. > :33:33.a "chaotic" hospital emergency department which they say is failing

:33:34. > :33:36.to keep patients safe. The Care Quality Commission found

:33:37. > :33:39.long queues of ambulances outside the Queen Alexandra Hospital

:33:40. > :33:42.in Portsmouth, while patients with serious symptoms waited

:33:43. > :33:46.hours to be assessed. The hospital's trust says it's

:33:47. > :33:50.working to make improvements. A replica of the Jules

:33:51. > :33:54.Rimet World Cup trophy, owned by Brazilian footballing

:33:55. > :33:57.legend Pele, has been auctioned off The Brazilian legend won

:33:58. > :34:02.three World Cup medals, Now he's selling off

:34:03. > :34:06.around 2,000 items The buyer of the famous cup has

:34:07. > :34:12.asked to remain anonymous. That's a summary of the latest news,

:34:13. > :34:27.join me for BBC Newsroom We will be talking in a few moments

:34:28. > :34:33.about the latest in the youth debate about whether people with mental

:34:34. > :34:37.health issues should be able to have euthanasia in countries that allow

:34:38. > :34:40.it. Stay with us for that discussion. First, let's catch up

:34:41. > :34:41.with the sport. So here are the sport

:34:42. > :34:45.headlines this morning. Maria Sharapova will appeal her two

:34:46. > :34:47.year ban from tennis The five-time Grand Slam winner says

:34:48. > :34:52.the judgement by the International Tennis Federation

:34:53. > :34:53.was "unfairly harsh". England cricketer Sarah Taylor wants

:34:54. > :34:56.to shine a light on mental health issues after revealing she suffers

:34:57. > :34:58.from debilitating panic attacks, that have caused her to take

:34:59. > :35:02.an indefinite break from the sport. Marcus Rashford says his rise

:35:03. > :35:05.from Manchester United debut to England striker

:35:06. > :35:08.doesn't seem real. The 18-year old says

:35:09. > :35:11.he wasn't even thinking about an international call-up -

:35:12. > :35:14.he only played senior football And George Ford will make way

:35:15. > :35:18.for Owen Farrell at fly-half, for England's opening

:35:19. > :35:21.Test against Australia That's the sport this morning,

:35:22. > :35:27.back to you Joanna. A man in Belgium is trying

:35:28. > :35:30.to end his life because he can't Sebastien - a name we're

:35:31. > :35:34.using to protect his identify - wants to be granted euthanasia

:35:35. > :35:37.on the grounds of extreme psychological suffering and he has

:35:38. > :35:40.spoken exclusively to us He claims he is attracted to young

:35:41. > :35:46.men but cannot accept he is gay. He has suffered from depression

:35:47. > :36:01.and other mental health problems Euthanasia is legal in Belgium, but

:36:02. > :36:06.cases for it being used in psychiatric rather than physical

:36:07. > :36:15.suffering are rare. Jonathan Blake, who has spoken to him, is here. Why

:36:16. > :36:18.does he want to end his life? PCs no other options. He has struggled with

:36:19. > :36:24.depression and other psychological problems. He has had treatment,

:36:25. > :36:28.therapy, counselling and medication. A couple of years ago he found out

:36:29. > :36:33.it was possible to go through with euthanasia in Belgium where there is

:36:34. > :36:38.a liberal law for psychiatric cases. He is pursuing that. It is by no

:36:39. > :36:43.means certain, but he is determined to go through with it. He is

:36:44. > :36:46.struggling with his sexuality and has been described before as a

:36:47. > :36:51.paedophile because he says that is wrong because he is attracted to

:36:52. > :36:55.adolescent boys of 15 and older and young men. He had a very difficult

:36:56. > :37:01.childhood and that is only one part of his condition. You said it is not

:37:02. > :37:07.certain if the euthanasia will go ahead, what is the legal right

:37:08. > :37:12.around it? It has been illegal since 2002 to end someone's live to

:37:13. > :37:16.relieve suffering. Two doctors must agree in the case of physical

:37:17. > :37:22.illnesses, but in a psychiatric case, it must be three doctors. The

:37:23. > :37:25.key phrase is that patients must be suffering constant and unbearable

:37:26. > :37:33.physical or mental suffering. You have spoken to him. Yes, I will give

:37:34. > :37:40.you an idea of how widely used the euthanasia law is. In 2013, there

:37:41. > :37:44.were 1807 confirmed euthanasia cases. This is the most recent year

:37:45. > :37:51.for which there are figures available. 80% of those were for

:37:52. > :37:54.cases where people aged 60 years and older, so the vast majority of

:37:55. > :38:05.elderly people suffering of physical, terminal illness, and the

:38:06. > :38:11.most common is cancer. If we are talking about psychiatric problems,

:38:12. > :38:16.it is a tiny minority. 4% of the total in 2013 of successful cases of

:38:17. > :38:20.euthanasia were for psychiatric illnesses. And that is the small

:38:21. > :38:22.group that Sebastien falls into. Let's hear from him now.

:38:23. > :38:29.TRANSLATION: My whole life has led me to this really,

:38:30. > :38:33.my mother had dementia, so I was not right mentally.

:38:34. > :38:37.I'm talking about strange conversations, and then not

:38:38. > :38:46.It was instilled in me, so I was extremely lonely,

:38:47. > :38:58.extremely withdrawn, and very inhibited physically.

:38:59. > :39:01.Scared to go out, scared of being seen.

:39:02. > :39:13.Growing up, when I was 15, I met a boy and fell crazy

:39:14. > :39:41.But I am relieved that I'm capable of falling in love with boys

:39:42. > :39:43.who are out of adolescence, and despite everything,

:39:44. > :39:45.it's unbearable for me, this sexual orientation.

:39:46. > :40:04.Can you accept that you are homosexual?

:40:05. > :40:11.Euthanasia is an extreme choice, what has driven new to this point?

:40:12. > :40:15.TRANSLATION: I've always thought about death, looking back

:40:16. > :40:23.on my earliest memories it's always been in my thoughts.

:40:24. > :40:27.What really comes next, how to control your own death,

:40:28. > :40:38.it's a permanent suffering like being in prison in my own body.

:40:39. > :40:41.Not being able to go out, a constant sense of shame,

:40:42. > :40:44.feeling tired, being attracted to people that

:40:45. > :40:49.As though everything were the opposite of

:40:50. > :41:01.And then, there are huge difficulties with relationships

:41:02. > :41:02.because it is hugely difficult to communicate with

:41:03. > :41:13.I discovered that euthanasia was available for psychiatric issues

:41:14. > :41:17.two years ago so I tried to find out if it was an option for me,

:41:18. > :41:23.How determined are you to pursue euthanasia?

:41:24. > :41:30.TRANSLATION: If someone came up with something radically different

:41:31. > :41:40.to everything I've done, then yes, I would try it.

:41:41. > :41:46.Looking after myself is not about talking to psychologists,

:41:47. > :41:57.So yes, if someone can give me some kind of miracle

:41:58. > :42:06.You should also know that if the euthanasia committee denies

:42:07. > :42:09.a request for euthanasia, there is an offer of follow-up care

:42:10. > :42:12.for those who are in charge of euthanasia.

:42:13. > :42:15.So there are things to be tried, like electric shocks, for example,

:42:16. > :42:27.If you pass the assessments, have you thought about the final

:42:28. > :42:32.stages of the process of euthanasia, and how it will happen.

:42:33. > :42:41.TRANSLATION: It is not clear yet where it will take place

:42:42. > :42:50.but I would like it to be done in a hospital.

:42:51. > :42:53.The hardest thing now is telling my family, if I get a yes

:42:54. > :43:02.that is what is going to be the most delicate.

:43:03. > :43:06.I'm thinking most of all of my father because we are not in touch

:43:07. > :43:14.But no, the moment when they put a drip in my arm?

:43:15. > :43:26.For me, it's just anaesthetic, and you accept that you die.

:43:27. > :43:31.That's all I think about and I'm at peace with that.

:43:32. > :43:34.I'm more at peace with dying like this than having

:43:35. > :43:37.to take my own life because there are no easy solutions.

:43:38. > :44:00.That was Sebastien talking to you, Jonathan. A really powerful

:44:01. > :44:04.interview. He is just 39, had two psychiatrists see this? There is

:44:05. > :44:07.broad agreement among the medical community in Belgium about the law

:44:08. > :44:12.on euthanasia. It is seen as efficient and there are very few

:44:13. > :44:16.cases that are controversial. There is public support for it in the

:44:17. > :44:21.country as well, but cases like this cause I debate. I spoke to a

:44:22. > :44:24.practising psychiatrist who explained the level of debate among

:44:25. > :44:30.the psychiatric community. We have meetings and debates

:44:31. > :44:32.about it because it doesn't quite divide us, but not everybody has

:44:33. > :44:35.the same advice about that. Some people say it is a good thing,

:44:36. > :44:38.people must be free to choose and not to hurt themselves

:44:39. > :44:42.with suicide and to end their life Other people say no,

:44:43. > :44:49.never, we cannot do that, it is never finished and we are not

:44:50. > :45:01.God and we cannot decide for the other and it is, how do

:45:02. > :45:03.you say, unaccompanied suicide. Assisted suicide and we do

:45:04. > :45:07.not want to do that. Doctors do not want to be

:45:08. > :45:10.killers of the other. And some people are just in between,

:45:11. > :45:13.OK, it is interesting, it is a good law for some people,

:45:14. > :45:20.it is to diminish the suffering of the people who can

:45:21. > :45:27.do it another way. But not for everybody,

:45:28. > :45:41.not too easily, it must not be And so we have the three ways

:45:42. > :45:46.of thinking and we discussed it and I think that no one is right

:45:47. > :45:49.and no one is wrong. It is just a very difficult law

:45:50. > :45:52.and it is a philosophical and ethical question

:45:53. > :46:13.which is very deep. baby what is likely to happen from

:46:14. > :46:19.here, Jonathan? Sebastian is at the start of a very long process. He has

:46:20. > :46:24.had an initial decision from a doctor he can pursue it. Three. Us

:46:25. > :46:29.will need to agree his case fits within the euthanasia law for him to

:46:30. > :46:35.be able to go through it. As we heard from him, he is in a state of

:46:36. > :46:39.permanent suffering and feels trapped in his own body. He remains

:46:40. > :46:43.determined to pursue a euthanasia. Jonathan has e-mailed saying I hate

:46:44. > :46:47.being gay. Without regular support I would have killed myself. I hate

:46:48. > :46:52.myself most of the time. Ed Sheeran is being

:46:53. > :46:55.sued for $20 million by the writers of a song released

:46:56. > :46:58.by the former X Factor The writers of Cardle's single

:46:59. > :47:02.'Amazing' allege that Sheeran copied their song

:47:03. > :47:05.for his single Photograph. In a moment we'll talk

:47:06. > :47:07.to our arts and music guru Chi Chi Izundu,

:47:08. > :48:07.but first what do you think? How did you find me. Came out of

:48:08. > :48:09.nowhere, like lightning. Kind of amazing how you found me, through

:48:10. > :48:15.all the noise somehow. Chi Chi Izundu is here to talk

:48:16. > :48:24.us through it. There is a huge amount of cash.

:48:25. > :48:29.There is, the two song writers are saying they want the royalties from

:48:30. > :48:35.photograph which sold 3.5 million copies last summer. They want a

:48:36. > :48:42.credit so as it continues to sell they make some cash. It has been

:48:43. > :48:49.licensed in a Hollywood film, Me Before You. They say if you listen

:48:50. > :48:53.to the song, particularly the chorus, there are 39 identical note

:48:54. > :48:59.between Ed Sheron's Photograph and the that Cardle are formed Amazing.

:49:00. > :49:04.They said they wrote Amazing in 2010 so it recedes the date that Ed

:49:05. > :49:14.Sheron released Photograph. Back came off his multiple platinum

:49:15. > :49:21.selling album, Multiply. What has to be proven to win a case like this,

:49:22. > :49:27.are they difficult to win? They are, they are incredibly complicated. I

:49:28. > :49:34.spoke to somebody last month whose job is to look at cases like this,

:49:35. > :49:38.it is the science of music. The judge has to decide whether or not

:49:39. > :49:44.there is enough similarity for a case to go ahead in Los Angeles.

:49:45. > :49:52.Then it goes to the jury. Then it is up to the jury to decide how much is

:49:53. > :49:58.paid. The interesting part is I have employed the same lawyer that won

:49:59. > :50:03.the Blurred Line case and he managed to get 3.5 million in that case and

:50:04. > :50:07.it changed the landscape of music and copyright because the same

:50:08. > :50:13.musicologist told me last year, the music world is paranoid. They are

:50:14. > :50:18.quite worried everything sounds a little too similar. In the same

:50:19. > :50:24.vein, people are thinking it sounds quite similar to what I did a few

:50:25. > :50:26.years ago. Therefore I will take it to the courts. Really interesting,

:50:27. > :50:31.keep us up today on what happens. Hours away from the summit

:50:32. > :50:36.of the world's highest mountain, Leslie Binns turned back down

:50:37. > :50:39.the mountain to save a stranger The ex-serviceman from

:50:40. > :50:44.South Yorkshire even tried to rescue another climber who'd got

:50:45. > :50:46.into trouble but sadly, It was on a week in which five

:50:47. > :50:51.people were killed on Mount Everest. This week Leslie Binns arrived back

:50:52. > :50:56.with his fiance Lindsey Empringham Also from India we've got

:50:57. > :51:18.Sunita Hazra who's life Leslie Leslie, reading the account of what

:51:19. > :51:23.you went through, your actions where heroin. Take us back to the moment

:51:24. > :51:30.when you realised there was trouble ahead? I was approaching a part of a

:51:31. > :51:38.mountain called the balcony which is around 8000 metres above sea level.

:51:39. > :51:44.I was with my Sherpa. As we looked up we actually saw a bit of a

:51:45. > :51:49.commotion. The next thing I knew, Sunita came sliding down the

:51:50. > :51:56.mountain. She was clipped onto a safety line but she had either lost

:51:57. > :52:04.her footing or, tried to get herself down and ended up slipping by me. I

:52:05. > :52:08.had to rub the tackle her to stop her going further down the mountain.

:52:09. > :52:12.What the conditions like? It was very cold. At that moment in time,

:52:13. > :52:17.the conditions were quite good. You tackled her and you had Heather.

:52:18. > :52:22.What was it like then? When I stopped her, she was in distress,

:52:23. > :52:29.semiconscious and could hardly speak. She was upside down so we put

:52:30. > :52:35.her right way up. The first thing I checked was her oxygen. I looked up

:52:36. > :52:40.the regulator and she had no oxygen left. I knew she was in trouble.

:52:41. > :52:44.Without oxygen at that height? Some people can climb that, but you have

:52:45. > :52:50.to be superhuman. Normal climbers always use oxygen. If you haven't

:52:51. > :52:56.got oxygen at that altitude, you have serious trouble. What I did, I

:52:57. > :53:03.took my oxygen mask off to try to give her some oxygen and then try

:53:04. > :53:07.and let her help herself down the mountain. I initially wanted to

:53:08. > :53:12.carry on. She came around a bit, was strong enough to set off and started

:53:13. > :53:20.climbing down. After 20 metres, she collapsed and I knew I had to cancel

:53:21. > :53:25.my summit bid and go and help her. You effectively saved her life? Yes.

:53:26. > :53:31.If somebody wasn't there to help her, she would have perished on the

:53:32. > :53:37.mountain. Sunita, is here and can hear what you are saying. Thanks for

:53:38. > :53:42.joining us. What do you say? Leslie is here, the man who saved your

:53:43. > :53:54.life, what do you say to him? Hello. Hello, Sunita. How are you? I am

:53:55. > :54:00.very good, it is nice to see a smile on your face. I will just explain,

:54:01. > :54:05.Sunita is talking through a translator. I think if the

:54:06. > :54:17.translator can hear? Can you ask Sunita how grateful she is to

:54:18. > :54:25.Richard for saving her life? TRANSLATION: I am very grateful. She

:54:26. > :54:37.is saying she is very grateful. Grateful from the bottom of her

:54:38. > :54:42.heart that Leslie was there and he rescued her from that. She was

:54:43. > :54:47.unconscious and she couldn't breathe because her oxygen cylinder was

:54:48. > :54:54.finished. She wants to thank Leslie from all of her heart. She will

:54:55. > :54:59.remain grateful for ever, but she is now spending time with her family.

:55:00. > :55:12.It is only because of Leslie. Leslie was there.

:55:13. > :55:25.TRANSLATION: She is saying she felt a very guilty that Leslie was just a

:55:26. > :55:32.few metres away from the summit, 400 or 500 metres away from the summit.

:55:33. > :55:40.At that time he had to give up his summit and she feels very guilty for

:55:41. > :55:46.this. She wants that if Leslie can arrange another expedition next year

:55:47. > :55:53.or the year after, she will be very happy if Leslie gets the chance to

:55:54. > :55:59.fulfil his dream. Sunita, there is no need to feel guilty. Seeing you

:56:00. > :56:03.with a smile on your face and knowing you are back with your

:56:04. > :56:16.family, makes me feel very, very happy. Thank you.

:56:17. > :56:26.TRANSLATION: She cannot hold her tears and she said the next day,

:56:27. > :56:46.when the Sherpa came to take her to camp three, she lost her friend. He

:56:47. > :57:01.was dead between the two camps. She thinks she would also not be alive

:57:02. > :57:06.if Leslie was not there like God. Sunita, you are making me cry now. I

:57:07. > :57:29.am so happy for you. I really am. TRANSLATION: She is saying she is

:57:30. > :57:42.physically fit now. She is recovering fast. But her fingers are

:57:43. > :57:49.not well. They might have an operation and she is tense about her

:57:50. > :57:56.fingers. She is very happy she is alive. Sunita, it is great to hear

:57:57. > :58:01.from you and see you like that. You are Leslie's fiance, it is moving to

:58:02. > :58:08.hear that, you must feel incredibly proud? Extremely proud. It brings

:58:09. > :58:12.back all of the emotions of actually getting in contact with them in the

:58:13. > :58:20.hospital. It is overpowering. Will you go back washed and Mark we have

:58:21. > :58:26.talked about it over the last couple of days, I had to get Lindsay's

:58:27. > :58:30.blessing and she is 100% behind me. The response and the support, people

:58:31. > :58:32.from the general public as well as friends and family have said, let's

:58:33. > :58:34.get Leslie back on the