:00:08. > :00:11.It's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire.
:00:12. > :00:15.Our top story today: An act of terror targeting lesbian,
:00:16. > :00:21.gay, bisexual and transgender people.
:00:22. > :00:24.50 dead, many more critically injured, after a gunman opened fire
:00:25. > :00:37.Nobody can tell me where my son is. If he has been shocked... Nobody
:00:38. > :00:45.knows. They told me there are fit allergies. -- fatalities.
:00:46. > :00:47.The gunman had sworn allegiance to so-called Islamic State.
:00:48. > :00:49.The FBI interviewed him three times as a possible terror
:00:50. > :01:00.The FBI had first become aware of Omar Mateen when he made
:01:01. > :01:07.inflammatory, trees to co-workers alleging terrorist ties. We used
:01:08. > :01:08.records checks. In the course of the investigation, Omar Mateen was
:01:09. > :01:11.interviewed twice. Later in the programme we'll hear
:01:12. > :01:14.from the cousin of one Do get in touch with your reaction,
:01:15. > :01:18.particularly if you are gay. Also this morning: Staff in betting
:01:19. > :01:20.shops have told this programme they're being told to offer
:01:21. > :01:22.customers perks and incentives to keep them playing
:01:23. > :01:32.on controversial high There was a suggestion from the area
:01:33. > :01:37.manager at one time if we had a customer coming in in their lunch
:01:38. > :01:40.hour, to make sure they didn't waste time getting a cheese and ham roll
:01:41. > :01:45.instead of playing machines. That you could go out there, get the
:01:46. > :01:47.cheese and ham roll, and get it ready for them.
:01:48. > :01:50.And Oscar Pistorius is in court again as sentencing begins
:01:51. > :01:57.for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.
:01:58. > :02:04.Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news
:02:05. > :02:07.and we'll keep you up to date with all the developments
:02:08. > :02:09.in the Orlando shooting, the worst mass shooting
:02:10. > :02:15.If you're getting in touch, use the hashtag VictoriaLive
:02:16. > :02:18.and if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.
:02:19. > :02:22.Our top story today: The FBI says the gunman who carried out the worst
:02:23. > :02:24.mass shooting in US history had been investigated three times
:02:25. > :02:26.for possible terrorism links but agents concluded
:02:27. > :02:33.Omar Mateen, a US citizen of Afghan descent, phoned the emergency
:02:34. > :02:37.services to pledge allegiance to the Islamic State group,
:02:38. > :02:40.before killing 50 people in a gay nightclub in Orlando.
:02:41. > :02:43.His ex-wife has said he was mentally unstable.
:02:44. > :02:46.President Obama called the killings an act of terror and hate.
:02:47. > :02:48.Vigils have been held across the United States,
:02:49. > :02:55.and flags are being flown at half mast on federal buildings.
:02:56. > :03:00.Omar Mateen was described by the President as a person
:03:01. > :03:06.Born in New York, the 29-year-old travelled to Orlando to a gay club
:03:07. > :03:12.The shots from his assault rifle killed 50 people,
:03:13. > :03:18.He took dozens of clubbers hostage for hours, before police
:03:19. > :03:24.They shot him before he could do more harm.
:03:25. > :03:28.His ex-wife says she too suffered at his hands.
:03:29. > :03:31.Yeah, he was very short tempered, and he would often get into fights
:03:32. > :03:39.Because I guess I was the only one in his life, most
:03:40. > :03:42.of the violence was towards me at that time.
:03:43. > :03:43.Police are still identifying his many victims.
:03:44. > :03:47.Relatives and survivors searched hospitals hoping for some good news.
:03:48. > :03:53.He works at Universal and I'm just hoping we find him.
:03:54. > :03:58.I could smell the ammo in the air, and I thought, this is a gun,
:03:59. > :04:01.this isn't fireworks, we need to leave.
:04:02. > :04:03.As the investigation continues, there are several words that sum
:04:04. > :04:11.This is a city trying to make sense of the senseless,
:04:12. > :04:15.and they are doing it in their own way.
:04:16. > :04:19.Hundreds of people queued for hours to donate blood to help those
:04:20. > :04:22.in hospital, a small act of kindness that gave Orlando a glimpse
:04:23. > :04:31.of humanity at its best, after it had seen its very worst.
:04:32. > :04:36.In Orlando, the city's authorities have started to release
:04:37. > :04:49.Gathering together, families hoping for good news or fearing the worst.
:04:50. > :04:54.But the fate of some of the victims is clear.
:04:55. > :04:56.34-year-old Edward Sotomayer Junior died in the attack.
:04:57. > :05:00.His cousin David said he was a caring, energetic man.
:05:01. > :05:04.He was known for wearing a silly top hat on cruises.
:05:05. > :05:06.Stanley Almodovar also killed at the age of 23,
:05:07. > :05:09.described as kind but sassy and proud of who he was.
:05:10. > :05:11.His mother, Rosalie Ramos, said he posted a video of himself
:05:12. > :05:18.And 22-year-old Luis Vielma lost his life during the mass shooting.
:05:19. > :05:22.These are the names of the other victims confirmed by police.
:05:23. > :05:27.But some were more lucky and managed to escape.
:05:28. > :05:32.You hear what sounds like fireworks and balloons popping,
:05:33. > :05:38.and you assume it's part of the show, and then you hear
:05:39. > :05:41.people start screaming, and the sound doesn't stop,
:05:42. > :05:44.and people start falling, and you realise it's not
:05:45. > :05:53.And at that point I realised I needed to get out.
:05:54. > :05:56.The extent of this attack is still unfolding as the number of people
:05:57. > :05:58.killed may still rise. Our correspondent Laura
:05:59. > :06:09.Bicker is in Orlando. What more can you tell our audience
:06:10. > :06:17.about this man's links to Islamic State? What we do know is that
:06:18. > :06:22.police confirmed that he dialled 911 before he carried out the shootings.
:06:23. > :06:27.In that call, he pledged allegiance to the so-called Islamic State. We
:06:28. > :06:32.also have heard from an unofficial social media account which is linked
:06:33. > :06:38.to Islamic State, and in that account, they say that one of their
:06:39. > :06:45.fighters carried out this atrocity. That has yet to be confirmed. You
:06:46. > :06:52.also mentioned that he was investigated back in 2013 and in
:06:53. > :07:00.2014 for terrorism linked by the FBI, but that was because a
:07:01. > :07:04.co-Walker -- co-worker said he made inflammatory comments but the FBI
:07:05. > :07:08.found nothing suspicious. We have also heard from his ex-wife who
:07:09. > :07:13.builds up a picture of a volatile, unstable man. She seemed surprised
:07:14. > :07:17.when she was told that this shooting could be motivated by religious
:07:18. > :07:23.beliefs. It will take some time for the FBI to build a picture, to try
:07:24. > :07:28.to figure out what motivated this mass murder. Thank you. Laura Bicker
:07:29. > :07:33.reporting live from Orlando. Clearly today's programme will be dominated
:07:34. > :07:37.by events there. Joanna has the rest of the news from the BBC newsroom.
:07:38. > :07:40.The French authorities have urged cities hosting Euro 2016 matches
:07:41. > :07:43.to ban the sale of alcohol, in an effort to curb the violence
:07:44. > :07:45.that has marred the opening days of the competition.
:07:46. > :07:47.There are fears of further clashes as the tournament progresses,
:07:48. > :07:49.following trouble at Saturday's 1-1 draw between England
:07:50. > :07:54.The French government said nations should be held accountable
:07:55. > :07:58.Meanwhile, French police have confirmed that a Northern Ireland
:07:59. > :08:00.fan has died in Nice, in what's thought to
:08:01. > :08:09.The Shadow Home Secretary, Andy Burnham, will today urge MPs
:08:10. > :08:12.of all parties to support a so-called Hillsborough Law.
:08:13. > :08:15.It would ensure that bereaved families are given the same amount
:08:16. > :08:27.He said the Hillsborough families' long fight had shown how the odds
:08:28. > :08:31.were stacked against ordinary people seeking truth and justice.
:08:32. > :08:33.Oscar Pistorius is due in court this morning to face sentencing
:08:34. > :08:36.for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp three years ago.
:08:37. > :08:38.The athlete was previously charged with culpable homicide,
:08:39. > :08:41.a charge equivalent to manslaughter, but that was overturned and changed
:08:42. > :08:44.The Paralympic gold medallist is facing a minimum 15-year
:08:45. > :08:52.Some betting shop staff have reported they're being told to offer
:08:53. > :08:54.customers perks and incentives to keep them playing
:08:55. > :08:58.A BBC investigation found some managers were being told to offer
:08:59. > :09:00.free bets, and to bring free drinks to customers to encourage them
:09:01. > :09:05.The industry says it takes responsible gambling seriously
:09:06. > :09:14.and has procedures in place to support anyone with a problem.
:09:15. > :09:16.Salvage work has begun in South Korea to raise the Sewol,
:09:17. > :09:21.More than 300 people died in the sinking,
:09:22. > :09:26.The ferry is now lying more than 130 feet underwater on the sea bed.
:09:27. > :09:29.A Chinese company will try to put long beams under the ferry
:09:30. > :09:31.in an attempt to lift it to the surface without
:09:32. > :09:35.Relatives of the victims have put pressure on the South Korean
:09:36. > :09:37.government to recover the vessel so that the remains
:09:38. > :09:45.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
:09:46. > :09:55.Thank you. And thanks to you for getting in touch with your reaction
:09:56. > :10:00.to the shootings in Orlando. Jonathan on Facebook says he cannot
:10:01. > :10:04.work it out. He has been awake most of the night thinking about Orlando.
:10:05. > :10:08.As a proud gay man who has been to Orlando and who has gay friends
:10:09. > :10:12.United States, why? If you are getting in touch with us this
:10:13. > :10:19.morning, particularly if you are going, use the hashtag and if you
:10:20. > :10:23.text you will be charged at your network rate. Sally is in Paris with
:10:24. > :10:26.the sport and the violence is taking the headlines. Yes. Isn't it
:10:27. > :10:30.distressing at this point in the tournament? So many nations coming
:10:31. > :10:34.here with high hopes and we have got to talk about violence. It has been
:10:35. > :10:38.happening across this country, mainly in Marseille at the weekend.
:10:39. > :10:44.I just want to share something that we have been reading this morning in
:10:45. > :10:48.the Figaro. They have a picture just before the England- Russia game in
:10:49. > :10:51.the centre of Marseille. It is a really interesting stance that they
:10:52. > :10:56.are taking on this. They are describing how an English fan was
:10:57. > :11:01.provoked by a local, somebody French, who was swearing at them,
:11:02. > :11:05.calling them names, and that is how one little pocket of trouble
:11:06. > :11:08.started. Interesting that the French reporting here is really very
:11:09. > :11:15.balanced, you have got to say, and very honest about the causes of
:11:16. > :11:20.parts of the trouble. This seems that we are witnessing now, what you
:11:21. > :11:23.are seeing on your screens now, this does not happen in the UK now
:11:24. > :11:27.because of the way that the government and the police have
:11:28. > :11:30.changed the rules regarding football matches, and the change in approach
:11:31. > :11:34.and style and attitude of the British police when it comes to big
:11:35. > :11:38.Premier League matches. This is something that they are talking very
:11:39. > :11:41.positively about in the French press today, suggesting it is something
:11:42. > :11:46.they should look at for the rest of the Euros. Shall we talk about the
:11:47. > :11:49.sport for a moment? The fairy tale of Northern Ireland is one everybody
:11:50. > :11:54.has been watching. They came into this tournament on a wave of great
:11:55. > :11:57.results and widespread goodwill. Thousands of fans travelled with
:11:58. > :12:01.them to witness their first appearance in a major tournament for
:12:02. > :12:06.almost three decades. If that fairy tale is going to continue, they have
:12:07. > :12:13.got their work cut out. Katie is following the team throughout this
:12:14. > :12:19.tournament and is in Nice this morning. Not a good result for them
:12:20. > :12:22.last night. That is right. There has been a vibrant atmosphere in Nice
:12:23. > :12:25.over the last couple of days but Northern Irish fans will be waking
:12:26. > :12:29.up this morning feeling a sense of pride in their team but also
:12:30. > :12:34.disappointment that they were not able to get something from the match
:12:35. > :12:37.against Poland. It was a 1-0 defeat, narrow on paper, but actually the
:12:38. > :12:41.gulf between the teams was greater, and they face an uphill
:12:42. > :13:02.It was a great day and a great occasion but we didn't deserve to
:13:03. > :13:06.win. We are still going to win and we will be there for the quarters!
:13:07. > :13:10.Such belief is why Northern Ireland are here in the first place. Michael
:13:11. > :13:15.O'Neill's sites topped the group and qualification that this was another
:13:16. > :13:19.step up entirely and it was clear that Michael McGovern would be busy
:13:20. > :13:23.early on. Resistance could only last so long. Northern Ireland have spent
:13:24. > :13:31.weeks getting to know Robin livered of ski, but in the end it was their
:13:32. > :13:35.strike partner who mattered. This approach from the captain Stephen
:13:36. > :13:41.Davis summed up their lack of success. We tried to get everything
:13:42. > :13:45.out of the game and we did not create anything of real significance
:13:46. > :13:50.and we have to be honest and say the better team won on the day. Northern
:13:51. > :13:53.Ireland leave Nice defeated but not disgraced but with Ukraine and
:13:54. > :14:01.Germany still to come, they will need to defy the odds once more to
:14:02. > :14:08.keep their European dream alive. Michael O'Neill will have to lift
:14:09. > :14:13.his players for that game. Germany beat Ukraine 2-0 at Michael O'Neill
:14:14. > :14:17.knows that he has got to beat Ukraine to avoid the prospect of
:14:18. > :14:21.going into that game against Germany needing to get something from it. An
:14:22. > :14:23.uphill challenge for Northern Ireland and that game against
:14:24. > :14:29.Ukraine really does feel like the group decider. I am sure it does. In
:14:30. > :14:34.the last hour we have had some desperately sad news about a fan who
:14:35. > :14:42.travelled to the south of France to watch his team. That is right.
:14:43. > :14:47.Details are still emerging, but this appears to be a tragic accident.
:14:48. > :14:50.Police have confirmed that a young Northern Ireland fan died after
:14:51. > :14:57.falling from the railing that lines the beach-front here, onto the stone
:14:58. > :15:01.beach, and landing on his head. His family have been informed. It is
:15:02. > :15:05.worth stressing that they suspect that this was an accidental death
:15:06. > :15:11.and nothing to do with any football hooliganism or any of the minor
:15:12. > :15:14.trouble that we saw in Nice on Saturday night. A tragic accident
:15:15. > :15:29.and tragic news from Nice after Northern Ireland's match against
:15:30. > :15:33.The Republic of Ireland play Sweden in Paris. Italy against Belgium is
:15:34. > :15:37.on BBC One at 8pm tonight before those two games, Spain play the
:15:38. > :15:44.Czech Republic. So plenty to look forward to, Victoria.
:15:45. > :15:47.A carefree Saturday night, hundreds of people dancing,
:15:48. > :15:53.laughing and enjoying life at a gay Latin night in a club in Orlando.
:15:54. > :15:56.All that changed in seconds just after 2am when a 29-year-old
:15:57. > :15:58.American and father of one walked in and began firing
:15:59. > :16:02.Fleeing from the scene, Anthony Torres filmed what happened.
:16:03. > :16:03.Look at that, they're shooting back and forth.
:16:04. > :16:22.Oh, my God, they're all shooting back and forth.
:16:23. > :16:27.We barely made it out, out of there.
:16:28. > :16:32.At 5am, several hours after the first shot was fired,
:16:33. > :16:35.heavily armed SWAT team members used an armoured vehicle to smash down
:16:36. > :16:37.a door at the club, clearing the way for around 30
:16:38. > :16:40.In total the carnage lasted three hours.
:16:41. > :16:52.People fled, hid in toilets, tended to the injured and wounded.
:16:53. > :17:01.There was a guy who got hit in the back. I took my bandanna off and put
:17:02. > :17:04.it on him so his blood wouldn't gush out. But he had blood everywhere and
:17:05. > :17:10.there was another girl got hit in the arm. I helped her, we wrapped
:17:11. > :17:16.it. We tried to keep her awake, but still, you could still hear the
:17:17. > :17:22.boom, boom, it had to be more than one person. It was just too
:17:23. > :17:27.continuous. Was like you were in a gun range and all you hear is bang,
:17:28. > :17:37.bang, bang, I can't even describe it. It was really difficult to see
:17:38. > :17:40.in real life a horrible situation. REPORTER: Did people realise what
:17:41. > :17:46.was going on? I don't think anyone knew what was going on until they
:17:47. > :17:50.saw people on the floor. You don't know when you are in a bar like
:17:51. > :17:53.that, you think it is music because there is three different places,
:17:54. > :17:59.there is sounds on the patio and sounds inside where the main area
:18:00. > :18:02.and there is another area where they were dancing, there is three
:18:03. > :18:03.different types of music playing at the same time. So how would you
:18:04. > :18:06.really know what's what? The man we now know as 29-year-old
:18:07. > :18:09.Omar Mateen shot people dead and held people hostage for some
:18:10. > :18:12.of the time and also rang 911 emergency services to pledge
:18:13. > :18:14.allegiance to so-called Islamic Eventually SWAT officers
:18:15. > :18:24.confronted him in the doorway, His father says the attack wasn't
:18:25. > :18:29.motivated by religion, but anger he felt when he saw
:18:30. > :18:32.two men kissing. He also said he never thought his
:18:33. > :18:48.son had "hatred in his heart". In the name of God, brave people of
:18:49. > :18:52.my country, I am informing you of the death of my son in the United
:18:53. > :18:56.States. It is a very sad moment. I would like to bring to your
:18:57. > :19:02.attention that my son Omar Mateen was a very good and educated boy. He
:19:03. > :19:05.has a wife and a child and he was very respectful of his family. I
:19:06. > :19:09.don't know what caused this whole thing. He was working for a company
:19:10. > :19:14.that had provided him with a pistol. I never figured out that he had
:19:15. > :19:19.hatred in his heart. He went to the gay club, shot and killed about 50
:19:20. > :19:22.men and women. I'm grief stricken and I have announced that to the
:19:23. > :19:28.people of the United States. Why he did such a thing in the holy month
:19:29. > :19:32.of ran dam, I don't know. The issue of homosexuality and punishment for
:19:33. > :19:37.that is up to God alone. This is not in the hands of human beings. What
:19:38. > :19:41.he has done has affected me deeply. I wanted you to know about this. May
:19:42. > :19:45.God guide all the young people towards the pure faith of Islam.
:19:46. > :19:48.The so-called Islamic State group says it was behind the attack,
:19:49. > :19:50.but the extent of its involvement is still not clear.
:19:51. > :19:53.The FBI says it had interviewed Omar Mateen three times
:19:54. > :19:56.as a possible terror suspect, but took no action
:19:57. > :20:00.because they didn't think he posed a threat.
:20:01. > :20:02.Meanwhile, his ex-wife says he was "mentally unstable"
:20:03. > :20:16.A few months after we were married I saw his instability and I saw he was
:20:17. > :20:19.bipolar and he would get mad out of nowhere. That's when I started
:20:20. > :20:25.worrying about my safety and then after a few months he started
:20:26. > :20:30.abusing me physically. Very often and not allow me to speak to my
:20:31. > :20:37.family, keeping me hostage from them. And I tried to see the good in
:20:38. > :20:41.him even then, but my family was very tuned into what I was going
:20:42. > :20:44.through and decided to me visit me and rescue me out of that situation.
:20:45. > :20:46.The number of people who've died so far is 50 -
:20:47. > :20:48.the worst mass shooting in US history.
:20:49. > :20:50.So far we know a little about the victims, most
:20:51. > :20:54.The number of people who've died so far is 50 -
:20:55. > :20:57.We'll tell you about some of those victims after 10am this morning,
:20:58. > :21:00.but many relatives are still waiting to find out of their
:21:01. > :21:18.I don't know where my son S no one can tell me where my son is, if he
:21:19. > :21:21.has been shot, if he is dead, they told me there are fatalities.
:21:22. > :21:24.US President Barack Obama has described the gun attack as "an act
:21:25. > :21:28.Today, as Americans, we grieve the brutal murder,
:21:29. > :21:31.horrific massacre, of dozens of innocent people.
:21:32. > :21:33.We pray for the families who are grasping for answers
:21:34. > :21:42.We stand with the people of Orlando, who have endured a terrible
:21:43. > :21:48.Although it's still early in the investigation,
:21:49. > :21:51.we know enough to say that this was an act of terror,
:21:52. > :21:56.And, as Americans, we are united in grief, in outrage,
:21:57. > :22:05.I just finished a meeting with FBI director Comey and my
:22:06. > :22:08.Homeland Security and National Security advisers.
:22:09. > :22:11.The FBI is on the scene and leading the investigation in partnership
:22:12. > :22:14.I directed that the full resources of federal government be made
:22:15. > :22:26.In the last 24 hours, many gay Muslims from around the world have
:22:27. > :22:29.taken to social media to give their reaction.
:22:30. > :22:31.Shawn Ahmed posted saying, "I'm gay and Muslim.
:22:32. > :22:34.I want to tell the Muslim community the Islamophobia being spewed
:22:35. > :22:38.now doesn't reflect my values as a gay man".
:22:39. > :22:40.Raillan Brooks tweeted, "The best part of today
:22:41. > :22:43.is all my queer Muslim siblings finding me, and us
:22:44. > :22:54.And this from Samira Ahmed, "To my gay Muslim brothers
:22:55. > :22:56.and sisters, I see you. I hear you.
:22:57. > :23:01.And the hashtag, GaysBreakTheInternet
:23:02. > :23:04.Nearly 200,000 people have tweeted using the phrase.
:23:05. > :23:07.Some people have responded to the dreadful events by coming out
:23:08. > :23:13.Bay posted this, "After today I want to properly come out.
:23:14. > :23:19.And Tim Tim tweeted, "After years of being bullied
:23:20. > :23:21.and harassed I can finally say I love who I am
:23:22. > :23:37.By the way, if you're gay and have come out as a result
:23:38. > :23:40.of what happened on Saturday night, do let me know.
:23:41. > :23:42.You can tweet me @Victoria Live or send me
:23:43. > :24:01.Rob Demenco, a volunteer at The Centre Orlando,
:24:02. > :24:03.a leading charity that supports the LGBT community in the city.
:24:04. > :24:05.Kelly Johnson, is a gay man in Orlando.
:24:06. > :24:08.Rachel Kiki, is going to a vigil tonight in London for the victims
:24:09. > :24:11.John Paul Brammer, a Latino gay rights campaigner in New York.
:24:12. > :24:13.Pastor Paul Valo, from the Christ Church of Orlando,
:24:14. > :24:16.a church just round the corner from the nightclub -
:24:17. > :24:20.they've been offering front line workers food and support.
:24:21. > :24:30.Let's speak to Kelly and Robert. How do you respond to what happened in
:24:31. > :24:34.Orlando on Saturday night? Wellks we were stunned and it is just
:24:35. > :24:41.horrific. We were glued to the television yesterday. We're still in
:24:42. > :24:44.shock, disbelief actually. Orlando is such a peaceful community and to
:24:45. > :24:50.have this event occur here, there is no words.
:24:51. > :24:58.Is this to do with religion or to do with homophobia or both? I think
:24:59. > :25:02.both. Initially when the events were unfolding I thought it was perhaps
:25:03. > :25:10.somebody local, a hate crime and then when we heard there was perhaps
:25:11. > :25:15.an Isis connection to this, it is just stunning to hear a small club
:25:16. > :25:19.in Orlando is targeted for such an event.
:25:20. > :25:25.Sorry, are you Kelly, or are you Robert? I'm Kelly. Robert, let me
:25:26. > :25:33.ask you, your reaction to the events on Saturday. Hi. I just couldn't
:25:34. > :25:38.believe it. The day before Kelly and I were downtown Orlando and we were
:25:39. > :25:45.saying how safe and peaceful and open society in or land owe is and
:25:46. > :25:50.then we woke up with the horrible news, the massacre at the club. As a
:25:51. > :25:56.gay couple in Orlando, are you out and proud? Is it fine for you to
:25:57. > :26:01.walk about? Is there any any negative reaction? No, we are very
:26:02. > :26:05.involved in the community and in our particular neighbourhood, we live in
:26:06. > :26:10.a suburban area of Orlando. I happen to be the HOA president of our
:26:11. > :26:14.community and I wondered over the years if I would get negative
:26:15. > :26:19.backlash from residents because it is not always a happy fun task
:26:20. > :26:28.enforcing rules, but never, not once, not a peep. No heckling, no,
:26:29. > :26:31.nothing, no bullying, nothing. We have been treated very, very well by
:26:32. > :26:37.the peoplement Orlando is very accepting and welcoming and we love
:26:38. > :26:42.it here. Let me bring in Pastor Paul from the Christchurch of Orlando.
:26:43. > :26:48.Why has this happened? Well, I don't know that I can speak to why it
:26:49. > :26:54.happens, you know? Obviously, who can figure out the mind of somebody
:26:55. > :26:57.who is full of hate and maybe somebody who has some imbalance in
:26:58. > :27:02.their life. Who can figure that out? Other than the fact that we can say,
:27:03. > :27:06.it is our job to kind of respond afterwards and figure out what do we
:27:07. > :27:10.do from here and how do we help our community? How do we help the people
:27:11. > :27:15.who have been injured and that's really been the response to our
:27:16. > :27:20.church is how do we help and how do we move forward? Well, how do you
:27:21. > :27:22.bring the community together then? Well, yesterday we brought our
:27:23. > :27:25.community together. We had people that showed up at our church just,
:27:26. > :27:30.there was so many people that showed up just to help, we had pretty early
:27:31. > :27:34.made the decision that we were going to help the first responders.
:27:35. > :27:38.Obviously, they had kind of taped the area off so there wasn't a lot
:27:39. > :27:43.of traffic, but a lot of people came on foot and we had restaurants that
:27:44. > :27:47.started to offer food. Our church had food that we were able to
:27:48. > :27:52.prepare and we put it out for the first responders for the police
:27:53. > :27:55.officers, for those that were in on the extraction team and even some of
:27:56. > :27:59.our Government officials came through and we were offering a cool
:28:00. > :28:04.place for them as well as a place for them to rest, use rest rooms and
:28:05. > :28:09.get water and some food. Let me bring in John Paul. You are a
:28:10. > :28:14.gay rights campaigner in New York and I think, John, you are angry
:28:15. > :28:18.that most gay and by sexual men in the States are banned from giving
:28:19. > :28:23.blood to help the victims. Just tell our audience about the law in the US
:28:24. > :28:27.and why you want it changed now? Yes, I am angry about it. I wrote a
:28:28. > :28:32.column about it in the Guardian today. Currently, it says that gay
:28:33. > :28:38.and by sexual men or men who have engaged with sexual activities with
:28:39. > :28:41.men can give blood, but only after a year of celibacy which obviously
:28:42. > :28:46.excludes the vast majority of us. You could be a gay couple in a
:28:47. > :28:50.completely month og mus relationship and you would still have the ban.
:28:51. > :28:54.You still wouldn't be able to give blood if you've had sexual relations
:28:55. > :28:57.with your parten and with your husband in the past year. You can be
:28:58. > :29:00.in a heterosexual relationship and have as much sex as you want and
:29:01. > :29:04.have sex outside of that marriage and the rule would not apply, you
:29:05. > :29:09.would be able to give blood. It is just way outdated and something the
:29:10. > :29:13.facts don't support anymore. The medical community, the scientific
:29:14. > :29:18.community, it has all been condemned and it needs to go away. Homophobia
:29:19. > :29:22.keeps it in place. And discrimination at the best of times,
:29:23. > :29:29.but right now actually, there is a medical need for the blood of gay,
:29:30. > :29:33.sexually active men? Absolutely. You saw earlier, the huge line of people
:29:34. > :29:36.trying to give blood in Orlando and that was such a beautiful display of
:29:37. > :29:40.solidarity and we really need it because we can't do it ourselves
:29:41. > :29:45.because of this ban. But it really is such a tragedy that there were a
:29:46. > :29:50.lot of gay men who wanted to give blood in the wake of this awful
:29:51. > :29:53.massacre and the tragedy was compounded when they ran into more
:29:54. > :30:01.oppression, things they couldn't do. These
:30:02. > :30:04.against. You are chair of the American Muslim Community Centres, I
:30:05. > :30:08.wonder how anxious you are about a potential backlash against Muslim
:30:09. > :30:17.people? Good morning. There is always a possibility, but over the
:30:18. > :30:22.years we have in Orlando good relations among people of all walks
:30:23. > :30:26.of life. We constantly have open houses at our mosque. Tomorrow, we
:30:27. > :30:29.have a sharing, a Ramadan programme where we invite civic leaders,
:30:30. > :30:35.leaders of different faith communities. We have always worked
:30:36. > :30:42.with the LGBT community in central Florida. So there can always be some
:30:43. > :30:46.hate around there. We are cautious the law enforcement community has
:30:47. > :30:49.been very supportive of us without us prompting them. They have
:30:50. > :30:54.stationed a police officer by our community isn't ter and we have
:30:55. > :31:01.cautioned our community to be careful, but we are going out there
:31:02. > :31:05.in public doing blood drives and also interacting. I'm scheduled to
:31:06. > :31:11.go to the hospital this morning to meet with the families of the
:31:12. > :31:14.victims. Our hearts and prayers are with them -- our thoughts and
:31:15. > :31:19.prayers are with them. We will get through this by working with one
:31:20. > :31:24.another and not allowing hate and haters to divide us.
:31:25. > :31:33.I would just like to ask you for a few more minutes of your time, and
:31:34. > :31:38.also our guests in the studio. We want to bring our view is the news
:31:39. > :31:41.and sport and also comments from viewers around the UK listening to
:31:42. > :31:47.you speak this morning. This just in. The pride flag will fly at
:31:48. > :31:49.half-mast over the Scottish headquarters today in memory of
:31:50. > :31:56.those who lost their lives in Orlando. That is a treat. And this
:31:57. > :32:01.is. This is a reminder of the hated tax that the LGBT community suffers
:32:02. > :32:06.daily. Until that stops we will never be free. Sean has emailed
:32:07. > :32:11.this. I am a gay man aged 24 and I have been open for four years now.
:32:12. > :32:14.It is those that what has happened and I am feeling incredibly sad at
:32:15. > :32:20.this time and also scared because of the rise of aggression and attacks
:32:21. > :32:24.against the LGBT community that we have been seeing around the world.
:32:25. > :32:29.Jerome has tweeted this. Orlando, too easy to link the attack to
:32:30. > :32:35.terrorism. Homophobia exists in many sections of the UK society as well.
:32:36. > :32:39.And this tweet from Warren. Please attend the Soho vigil tonight. Be
:32:40. > :32:45.out there and be seen. These people cannot win. And Edwards says this.
:32:46. > :32:48.As a gay man I feel sadness about what has happened in the United
:32:49. > :32:53.States. My thoughts are with the friends and families of those who
:32:54. > :32:54.died. Please tweet us. We will talk more in a second but first the
:32:55. > :32:58.headlines with Joanna. At least 50 people have been
:32:59. > :33:01.killed in a gun attack Vigils are being held across the
:33:02. > :33:12.country. America is still struggling to come
:33:13. > :33:23.to terms with the worst mass The gunman worked as a security
:33:24. > :33:27.guard and did have a license to carry a concealed weapon. Nobody can
:33:28. > :33:32.tell me where my son is. If he has been shot, if he is dead, nobody
:33:33. > :33:37.knows. They have told me there are fatalities.
:33:38. > :33:40.The French authorities have urged cities hosting Euro 2016 matches
:33:41. > :33:43.to ban the sale of alcohol, in an effort to curb the violence
:33:44. > :33:45.that has marred the opening days of the competition.
:33:46. > :33:47.There are fears of further clashes as the tournament progresses,
:33:48. > :33:49.following trouble at Saturday's 1-1 draw between England
:33:50. > :33:52.The French government said nations should be held accountable
:33:53. > :33:56.Meanwhile, French police have confirmed that a Northern Ireland
:33:57. > :33:58.fan has died in Nice, in what's thought to
:33:59. > :34:06.Oscar Pistorius is due in court this morning to face sentencing
:34:07. > :34:14.for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp three years ago.
:34:15. > :34:20.The athlete was previously convicted of manslaughter.
:34:21. > :34:25.The Paralympic gold medallist is facing a minimum 15-year
:34:26. > :34:36.That is a summary of the latest BBC News. More at ten o'clock. Now the
:34:37. > :34:39.sport. Thank you. Here are your sporting headlines from Paris.
:34:40. > :34:42.Northern Ireland have it all to do to make it through the group stage
:34:43. > :34:46.of the European Championships after they lost their opening match to
:34:47. > :34:51.Poland last night. It was only 1-0 but the Irish failed to register a
:34:52. > :34:54.decent shot on target and they will need to improve with Ukraine and
:34:55. > :35:00.world champions Germany still to come. Those two sides also played
:35:01. > :35:03.last night with Germany winning 2-0. Bastian Schweinsteiger sealed the
:35:04. > :35:10.victory with his side's second in the last few minutes. In other news,
:35:11. > :35:14.Wales's rugby tour of New Zealand will have to continue without star
:35:15. > :35:18.player George North, who has suffered a significant hamstring
:35:19. > :35:23.injury during the defeat to the All Blacks on Saturday. Lewis Hamilton
:35:24. > :35:26.continues his charge up the F1 driver standings after winning the
:35:27. > :35:29.Canadian Grand Prix yesterday, finishing ahead of his team-mate
:35:30. > :35:33.Nico Rosberg. He is now only nine points behind him in the
:35:34. > :35:37.championship. At Alex Hales fell just short of a century as England
:35:38. > :35:42.set Sri Lanka a victory target of 362 in the third and final test at
:35:43. > :35:47.Lords. They need to take ten Sri Lanka wickets today to wrap up the
:35:48. > :35:54.series 3-0. That is all the sport from Paris. Thank you. Let's
:35:55. > :35:58.continue our conversation, the reaction to events in Orlando at the
:35:59. > :36:05.weekend. We have heard from Kelly and Robert, a gay couple in Orlando,
:36:06. > :36:10.who were telling us they have never had any negative reaction out and
:36:11. > :36:15.about in that state. John is a gay rights campaigner in New York and he
:36:16. > :36:18.is cross that most gay people are banned from giving blood to help the
:36:19. > :36:23.victims and he is calling for that band to be lifted right now. We have
:36:24. > :36:26.also heard from a pastor from the Christchurch in Orlando and the
:36:27. > :36:31.chair of the Muslim community centres. They are talking about
:36:32. > :36:40.trying to bring their communities together. With me is the LGBT editor
:36:41. > :36:44.for Buzzfeed News and also Rachel. There is a vigil in London tonight
:36:45. > :36:47.to express and show solidarity for those who have been killed in the
:36:48. > :36:55.United States. Why is that happening? The LGBT people of
:36:56. > :37:01.Britain along with many other people are deeply horrified about what has
:37:02. > :37:07.happened. First and foremost, we want to, I want to extend our
:37:08. > :37:13.deepest sympathies and solidarity with the people of Orlando, with the
:37:14. > :37:21.LGBT people of America, and indeed with all Americans. What we have
:37:22. > :37:26.seen in the last 24 hours is that hatred, terrorism, homophobia,
:37:27. > :37:31.transphobia, doesn't just affect LGBT people. It affects everyone. It
:37:32. > :37:38.is a stain on our society and on our culture. The best thing that we can
:37:39. > :37:44.do is join hands, join hands on a street in Soho, join hands across
:37:45. > :37:47.social media, join hands across country and country, between
:37:48. > :37:51.politician and citizen, between person in the closet, between out
:37:52. > :37:55.and proud person, between straight and gay. That is all we can do, to
:37:56. > :38:04.stand united against horror and terror and hatred. I want to ask
:38:05. > :38:06.you, Kelly and Robert, how you respond to Patrick absolutely
:38:07. > :38:14.expressing his love and solidarity to gay people here in the UK. It is
:38:15. > :38:20.wonderful to hear that and I couldn't agree with him more. We all
:38:21. > :38:25.have to bind together and we all have to fight this. I think it is
:38:26. > :38:33.really helpful the more that LGBT folks come out and admit who they
:38:34. > :38:37.are and show their real truth, that goes a long way in fighting this.
:38:38. > :38:44.Then suddenly it is someone you know, a family member, a colleague,
:38:45. > :38:50.a neighbour. I think that diminishes, it starts to whittle
:38:51. > :38:53.away slowly at homophobia. How do you react to the fact that people
:38:54. > :38:59.have been coming out on social media in direct response to the shootings?
:39:00. > :39:07.I think it is wonderful in the sense that coming out is the single most
:39:08. > :39:10.powerful act any LGBT person can make to end prejudice and bigotry
:39:11. > :39:17.towards themselves and towards their own community. Why does it end it if
:39:18. > :39:25.somebody comes out? It is the single greatest tool in helping to end it.
:39:26. > :39:29.Previously we were entirely ignored. If you ignore an entire group, you
:39:30. > :39:34.do not have to give them any rights. You do not have to acknowledge their
:39:35. > :39:39.presence at human beings. As LGBT people started to come out, our
:39:40. > :39:45.rights darted to come towards us because we started to demand it. We
:39:46. > :39:49.started to say we will not take your shame, we will not be gagged and
:39:50. > :39:53.silenced, we are here, we are human and we deserve equal human rights.
:39:54. > :40:00.It is the most potent thing we can do. However, it is utterly tragic
:40:01. > :40:09.that we live in a culture still where it takes the massacre, the
:40:10. > :40:15.merger, of 50 people before scared and vulnerable LGBT people finally
:40:16. > :40:21.have the courage to say merely who they are and who they love. Britain,
:40:22. > :40:34.America, the entire world needs to take an a long, hard look at itself.
:40:35. > :40:37.The truth is that homophobia is biological, social, political and
:40:38. > :40:43.cultural. All these things in telling. What we have seen with Omar
:40:44. > :40:46.Mateen is somebody who is at the intersection of those things. This
:40:47. > :40:51.is someone who was clearly disturbed, who is clearly
:40:52. > :40:54.homophobic, but that isn't in a vacuum. That happens in a culture
:40:55. > :41:00.and that culture is steeped in homophobia. LGBT people understand
:41:01. > :41:07.fear and terror because we live with it at a low level, at an invisible
:41:08. > :41:11.level often, every day. Rachel, why are you going to this vigil in
:41:12. > :41:15.London tonight? I suspect there will be vigils around the world actually.
:41:16. > :41:18.There is. I am showing support for my friends and my family and
:41:19. > :41:25.everyone. It is terrifying that we live in a time when existence is
:41:26. > :41:30.threatened simply by existing. That is terrible and all we can do now is
:41:31. > :41:34.support, show that we can love everyone for everything, and so many
:41:35. > :41:37.people want to show support like that. It is going on in loads of
:41:38. > :41:45.different places at different communities joining up will make a
:41:46. > :41:50.difference. It is terrifying. Why do you think it will make a difference?
:41:51. > :41:53.It sounds cliche but the most powerful thing we can do right now
:41:54. > :42:00.is join hands, in the literal and figurative sense, because as you
:42:01. > :42:05.said we live in a community and in a culture that is either homophobic or
:42:06. > :42:09.transphobic or discriminatory towards things that are beyond our
:42:10. > :42:16.control. Things that we don't choose. Things we are born with. To
:42:17. > :42:21.show more support would teach others that it is not a choice and it is OK
:42:22. > :42:28.to be who you are. If I can mention one tiny thing? So far in the last
:42:29. > :42:32.few hours, the Prime Minister and the First Minister for Scotland and
:42:33. > :42:36.for Wales have issued statements condemning these atrocious attacks.
:42:37. > :42:41.The First Minister of Northern Ireland, Arlene Foster, has remained
:42:42. > :42:45.silent. From the DUP, she has said nothing. That is a disgrace and she
:42:46. > :42:49.should apologise and issue a statement immediately. Thank you for
:42:50. > :42:53.coming on the programme, Patrick and Rachel, who will be at that vigil
:42:54. > :43:02.tonight. And to our friends in the USA. John Paul, Kelly, Robert, Paul
:43:03. > :43:05.and the chair of the Muslim community centres. Thank you for
:43:06. > :43:13.coming on the programme and we appreciate your time.
:43:14. > :43:16.Staff in betting shops say they're being told to offer customers perks
:43:17. > :43:18.and incentives to keep them playing on controversial high
:43:19. > :43:20.stakes betting machines, an investigation for this
:43:21. > :43:23.Managers claim they're told to offer free bets,
:43:24. > :43:26.and in one case it was suggested lunch was bought
:43:27. > :43:28.for a high-spending customer so he could keep playing
:43:29. > :43:31.The industry says it takes responsible gambling seriously
:43:32. > :43:33.and has procedures in place to identify and support anyone
:43:34. > :43:44.They say they're the safer, responsible side of gambling.
:43:45. > :43:48.There are now 9000 high street bookmakers in the UK.
:43:49. > :43:51.Are they doing enough to protect their staff?
:43:52. > :43:53.Machine gamblers, when they lose, can be quite aggressive.
:43:54. > :44:02.In 20 years of being in the betting shops, I've never had anybody come
:44:03. > :44:09.to me and say, "Do you think you're gambling too much today?"
:44:10. > :44:12.We've been speaking to people who work in the betting
:44:13. > :44:15.industry about all this, about how their jobs have changed,
:44:16. > :44:18.and about the pressure they now feel to make as much money as possible
:44:19. > :44:23.If you know someone's got an addictive personality,
:44:24. > :44:27.you can guarantee they will be spending a lot of money.
:44:28. > :44:30.On one of my first days, I was only 19, I asked somebody
:44:31. > :44:35.So why are we speaking to people who say they've received
:44:36. > :44:40.I can't answer that, but if you speak to our operators,
:44:41. > :44:54.they've trained every member of staff in responsible gambling.
:44:55. > :45:04.I'm pretty passionate about this topic!
:45:05. > :45:13.Tony Franklin has had a problem with gambling since he was a child.
:45:14. > :45:17.He'd managed to stay out of the bookies for a year,
:45:18. > :45:21.then one afternoon 18 months ago he went back in again.
:45:22. > :45:26.I was in that hairdressers over the road, and I don't know
:45:27. > :45:31.I thought, "Oh, go on, what's the harm?
:45:32. > :45:39.I fed in what I had in my wallet, which I think was about ?90,
:45:40. > :45:43.then I came out, took some money out of the cashpoint,
:45:44. > :45:46.and at this point I was totally devastated and just completely
:45:47. > :45:49.caught up in the gambling, in a red mist is probably the best
:45:50. > :45:52.way to describe it, or fog, and I just went to the counter
:45:53. > :45:56.I lost that in the space of a few minutes.
:45:57. > :46:02.Then another 1000, until I had no more money in my bank account.
:46:03. > :46:03.How did you feel after losing that?
:46:04. > :46:10.At this point, the plan was still for my wife and child
:46:11. > :46:17.to come and live here in this country with me.
:46:18. > :46:20.I'd got a flat set up and everything ready to go, but because of that
:46:21. > :46:23.relapse and because my wife realised I was still very much
:46:24. > :46:29.in the gambling, the addiction was there...
:46:30. > :46:34.Tony had a problem with all types of gambling at every bookmaker,
:46:35. > :46:37.but that day he was on a fixed-odd betting terminal, or FOBT,
:46:38. > :46:41.the controversial touch-screen machines that let you stake up
:46:42. > :46:50.to ?100 a spin on casino games like roulette.
:46:51. > :46:52.Here's ?500, then eight minutes later another ?1000
:46:53. > :46:59.He's still fighting a gambling problem.
:47:00. > :47:02.He still keeps his receipts from that day in his
:47:03. > :47:06.In 20 years of being in the betting shops, I've never had
:47:07. > :47:08.anybody come to me and say, "Do you think you're gambling
:47:09. > :47:18.Or enquiring as to where I'm getting the sums of money that I put
:47:19. > :47:28.And bearing in mind I've lost thousands in these sessions
:47:29. > :47:30.on numerous occasions, that is quite shocking
:47:31. > :47:34.These messages that come on the screen every so often,
:47:35. > :47:36."Yhe pop-ups that say, you've spent so much money
:47:37. > :47:39.in so many minutes," I'll just hammer the button to get rid
:47:40. > :47:42.Some people, Tony, are still going to think this
:47:43. > :47:44.is about personal responsibility, no-one is putting a gun
:47:45. > :47:47.against your head and asking you to go into a betting shop?
:47:48. > :47:50.It is an addiction in the same way as alcohol and drug addiction.
:47:51. > :47:53.It's very hard to understand what goes on in someone
:47:54. > :47:55.else's head if you don't have the direct experience.
:47:56. > :47:58.Tony is now banned from every Coral shop for his own protection.
:47:59. > :48:01.The firm told us it doesn't target vulnerable players and said its
:48:02. > :48:05.staff receive comprehensive training to assist with the identification
:48:06. > :48:08.of customers who may be experiencing difficulties.
:48:09. > :48:11.Over the last five years, the betting industry has grown.
:48:12. > :48:18.Takings are up as more people use online sites and mobile apps.
:48:19. > :48:21.At the same time, the overall level of problem gambling has remained
:48:22. > :48:25.at around one in every 200 of the population,
:48:26. > :48:27.though the industry's critics question how reliable
:48:28. > :48:33.And then there are all those stories about bookies taking
:48:34. > :48:38.In fact, the number of betting shops has stayed constant, roughly 9000.
:48:39. > :48:41.Critics say the problem is when they are clustered together
:48:42. > :48:45.Here, for example, you have got BetFred,
:48:46. > :48:52.On one street in east London there are not one
:48:53. > :48:54.but two Paddy Powers, a Coral, another BetFred,
:48:55. > :48:58.another Paddy Power, a Ladbrokes, William Hill, another BetFred.
:48:59. > :49:00.And finally, ten minutes walk later from the bottom,
:49:01. > :49:08.I believe the betting shop is the safest environment.
:49:09. > :49:11.The worst environment that could be created would be to go
:49:12. > :49:16.back to pre-1960s, and illegal bookmakers.
:49:17. > :49:19.Malcolm George speaks for most of the near 9000 high
:49:20. > :49:24.Those are dangerous environments and I think the bookmakers provide
:49:25. > :49:31.some of the best and safest places for someone to gamble.
:49:32. > :49:33.But bookmakers, like the rest of the industry, have changed.
:49:34. > :49:38.Shops are now very different places than they were a decade or so ago.
:49:39. > :49:41.My first 30 years, it was just was racing and dog racing.
:49:42. > :49:43.One or two customers were problematic with their gambling,
:49:44. > :49:51.but you're talking probably ten in 30 years.
:49:52. > :49:54.John, not his real name, was, until very recently,
:49:55. > :49:57.a manager at Coral, one of the big four chains.
:49:58. > :49:59.He still has connections to the industry so doesn't
:50:00. > :50:05.In the last ten years, when the machines came in,
:50:06. > :50:12.They seemed to have a lot more problems, they got more aggressive.
:50:13. > :50:14.Fixed-odd betting terminals are big money to the big chains.
:50:15. > :50:18.Each machine makes ?1000 a week before taxes and costs
:50:19. > :50:25.Under the current rules, each shop can have a maximum of four.
:50:26. > :50:33.The problem is roulette, they can stick ?100.
:50:34. > :50:35.The problem is roulette, they can stake ?100.
:50:36. > :50:38.Not that many people do, in all fairness, but they can stake
:50:39. > :50:42.We spoke to another two store managers who still work
:50:43. > :50:46.Both talked about the pressure they feel to hit financial targets
:50:47. > :50:51.One passed us internal e-mails he was sent from Coral's central
:50:52. > :50:56.operations department about a new FOBT game called Big Banker.
:50:57. > :50:58."Smashing your targets: Ensure your team has
:50:59. > :50:59.identified your target key customers to demonstrate our
:51:00. > :51:04.Offer a demo to all of your machine customers to whet their appetite,
:51:05. > :51:06.then encourage them to play with their own money.
:51:07. > :51:09.Once you have identified your target customers, it often helps
:51:10. > :51:17.when you use a hook to encourage them to play.
:51:18. > :51:27."You like Big Banker, do you have our bonus card yet?
:51:28. > :51:29.It's quick, it's easy, and it's free."
:51:30. > :51:31.In a statement, Coral said: "Recent health surveys
:51:32. > :51:33.show that problem gambling rates have fallen since the introduction
:51:34. > :51:35.of FOBTs, and the average Coral customer's loss
:51:36. > :51:39.The introduction of supervised stakes above ?50 last year has led
:51:40. > :51:41.to a 70% reduction in stakes above that level."
:51:42. > :51:44.John also spoke about the special treatment he felt FOBT
:51:45. > :51:47.We were given instructions, machine players, as soon
:51:48. > :51:50.as they come in, tea, coffee, whatever they want.
:51:51. > :51:52.Were you encouraged to make machine players in particular feel
:51:53. > :52:03.If the shop was too hot for them, we had to turn the heating down,
:52:04. > :52:11.They were the gods of the betting shop.
:52:12. > :52:13.There was a suggestion from the area manager at one time,
:52:14. > :52:16.if we had a customer coming in in their lunch hour,
:52:17. > :52:19.to make sure they didn't waste time getting a cheese and ham roll
:52:20. > :52:23.instead of playing the machines that you could go out there,
:52:24. > :52:27.buy them a cheese and ham roll and get it ready for them.
:52:28. > :52:29.Were there certain financial targets which shops were expected to meet
:52:30. > :52:34.You had to make your machine target, and if you did you were guaranteed
:52:35. > :52:40.I know another firm based the whole wage on how much money
:52:41. > :52:48.So there was every incentive for the staff to encourage people.
:52:49. > :52:53.Coral told us it rejects the allegations made by the BBC.
:52:54. > :52:56.It went on to say that, "Coral takes its commitment to responsible
:52:57. > :52:58.gambling extremely seriously and has strengthened protection
:52:59. > :53:00.for all its customers, providing help and support
:53:01. > :53:04.for the very small minority that may have issues with their
:53:05. > :53:08.Training, tools and processes are in place throughout the business
:53:09. > :53:10.to ensure that potential problem gamblers are identified
:53:11. > :53:18.What we've seen in the bookmaking sector...
:53:19. > :53:20.We showed the e-mails to Matt from the pressure
:53:21. > :53:24.He became hooked on FOBTs as a teenager, losing ?16,000
:53:25. > :53:30.I think it shows, really, that self-regulation doesn't work
:53:31. > :53:32.and, like any business, the primary objective
:53:33. > :53:41.The issue with the machines is, first of all, they shouldn't be
:53:42. > :53:44.allowed in betting shops because betting shops should be
:53:45. > :53:46.places for bookmaking, so the fact that they're trying
:53:47. > :53:49.to push these machines, which is not their primary
:53:50. > :53:54.activity, is a concern and it rings alarm bells.
:53:55. > :53:57.The industry's critics worry that staff are under pressure to hit
:53:58. > :54:02.At the same time, they're being asked to weed out
:54:03. > :54:06.Under the industry's own code of conduct,
:54:07. > :54:10.all staff are meant to be trained to identify problem gamblers,
:54:11. > :54:13.but we were told it doesn't always happen.
:54:14. > :54:16.One, a woman in her 20s who doesn't work for Coral, told us...
:54:17. > :54:21.All we have is a leaflet, we're told to give them out
:54:22. > :54:26.But working on your own at night makes it extremely hard
:54:27. > :54:30.to speak to customers who are extremely frustrated.
:54:31. > :54:32.The people we've spoken to seemed to suggest,
:54:33. > :54:34.who work on the shop floor, that that training doesn't always
:54:35. > :54:37.cascade down to the people who are working at 7pm,
:54:38. > :54:44.It's absolutely the case that anyone joining and working in a betting
:54:45. > :54:48.shop will receive training about problem gambling.
:54:49. > :54:51.So why are we speaking to people who say they received no
:54:52. > :54:55.I can't answer that, but if you speak to our operators,
:54:56. > :55:02.they train every member of staff in responsible gambling.
:55:03. > :55:04.An undercover investigation for the BBC's panorama programme
:55:05. > :55:08.also linked FOBT machines to violence.
:55:09. > :55:11.The staff we spoke to said their jobs had become more
:55:12. > :55:16.Has it changed the environment for people working in companies?
:55:17. > :55:19.Machine gamblers, when they lose, can be quite aggressive
:55:20. > :55:26.I've known machines smashed up before now.
:55:27. > :55:30.Incidentally, even though I knew the guy, I knew his address,
:55:31. > :55:34.I said to my boss, did we want to go to the police?
:55:35. > :55:38.He said, "We don't want to involve the police."
:55:39. > :55:41.It is Coral's company policy to report all acts of aggression
:55:42. > :55:46.The firm said: "It is simply untrue to link problem gambling
:55:47. > :55:51.or aggressive behaviour to gaming machines."
:55:52. > :55:55.Staff at other chains also told us that safety was a concern.
:55:56. > :55:58.The same female shop worker we heard from earlier said...
:55:59. > :56:00.Those machines are the worst thing that ever happened.
:56:01. > :56:03.On one of my first days, I was only 19, I asked somebody
:56:04. > :56:08.I had a customer screaming when we tried to close last Sunday,
:56:09. > :56:13.My area manager said, "He's a big spender,
:56:14. > :56:18.Compared to the retailers on the high street, actually betting
:56:19. > :56:22.shops don't appear to receive more crime than other sectors.
:56:23. > :56:24.But is that because staff are encouraged not to go
:56:25. > :56:30.That is not the policy for any of my members, and we would not
:56:31. > :56:37.Betting shops, though, are under pressure to do more.
:56:38. > :56:40.A Parliamentary inquiry starts next month, local councils have been
:56:41. > :56:49.The industry may have to make changes before it is forced to.
:56:50. > :56:56.We began looking at the story after some of you got in touch
:56:57. > :56:58.with us to tell us your experience of working in betting shops.
:56:59. > :57:01.If you've got a story you think we should be covering,
:57:02. > :57:19.A techeser says, "Being an ex-betting shop manager, I can
:57:20. > :57:23.confirm that the incentives to customers are true, free bets,
:57:24. > :57:27.refreshments etcetera and machine tournaments with the free machine
:57:28. > :57:32.play if you win the tournament." That's why betting shops are open
:57:33. > :57:40.from 8am until 10pm as well. Most comments today are from you are
:57:41. > :57:46.about the shootings in Orlando. This e-mail from Xenia, "I don't know why
:57:47. > :57:51.it is acceptable to hate people because of their sexual ylt. It is
:57:52. > :57:56.not acceptable to hate people because of their race. There are so
:57:57. > :57:59.many who would want to take the pride from us. It is saddening and
:58:00. > :58:03.sickening to hear about the shootings." Mohamed says, "I am a
:58:04. > :58:08.gay man who couldn't be myself. I'm an Iranian and I have been living
:58:09. > :58:12.here in the UK for five years where I have never been insulted because
:58:13. > :58:20.of being gay. We all deserve a life." Martin tweets this, "The
:58:21. > :58:23.Pulse shooting is not just an attack on the LGBT community, but an attack
:58:24. > :58:32.on everyone's freedom to live as we wish." Michelle tweets this, "I
:58:33. > :58:36.cannot be what I am not. I am a proud, trans woman." Another viewer
:58:37. > :58:43.says, "The Orlando shooting hits home for me as I have a gay brother.
:58:44. > :58:46.It makes me sick to think that someone would attack someone in a
:58:47. > :58:50.safe space of acceptancemed I can only hope for mercy on the souls of
:58:51. > :58:55.the victims and strength for their loved ones." Thank you for those.
:58:56. > :58:58.We will bring you the latest news and sport in a moment. Before that,
:58:59. > :59:02.here is the weather. Here is Phil Avery.
:59:03. > :59:11.A glorious start to the day for some, but and there had to be a but!
:59:12. > :59:14.It is a different kettle of fish across the north-east of England,
:59:15. > :59:18.south-east Scotland, murky fair, and it is likely to stay that way for
:59:19. > :59:21.the greater part of the day. We are dominated by an area of low
:59:22. > :59:24.pressure. This is going to be the pattern that we will see repeated
:59:25. > :59:28.through on to the middle part of the week and qate a variety in there as
:59:29. > :59:32.was the case at the weekend. There is the possibility still of some
:59:33. > :59:38.heavy and thundery downpours. For some of you, fairly laden skies, the
:59:39. > :59:41.odd drib and drab of drizzly rain passing through on what breeze there
:59:42. > :59:43.is. It is not like that everywhere, the north-eastern quarter of
:59:44. > :59:48.Scotland faring nicely today. I urge you to make the most of it. North
:59:49. > :59:52.Western Scotlandks one or two patchy showers. But then from Northern
:59:53. > :59:55.Ireland, to the north of England, south-western Scotland, on towards
:59:56. > :59:59.Eastern England, this is the zone come mid-an that we could see some
:00:00. > :00:01.of the heaviest downpours. Across the south-western quarter of the
:00:02. > :00:07.British Isles, here after a dank start, a little bit of brightness
:00:08. > :00:10.coming through, but that may spurn one or two showers. None of which
:00:11. > :00:15.makes pleasant hearing if you are aide concerned about the last day of
:00:16. > :00:20.Test match between England or Sri Lanka. There will be
:00:21. > :00:25.interpretations. The heaviest of the showers likely to rumble on and then
:00:26. > :00:27.we will see a residue of patchy rain across Northern Ireland and Northern
:00:28. > :00:31.England. Some rain getting into the north-eastern quarter of Scotland.
:00:32. > :00:36.It will be a close night across central and southern parts of the
:00:37. > :00:41.British Isles. And then, here we go again, Tuesday, the real change is
:00:42. > :00:47.for that northern part of Scotland, much, much dank affair than was the
:00:48. > :00:50.the case today. In the afternoon, there will be heat. Wales, perhaps
:00:51. > :00:53.the North Midlands and the north of England. Some brightness coming
:00:54. > :00:56.through. If you get that and avoid some of the showers, well 18
:00:57. > :01:00.Celsius, 19 Celsius, 20 Celsius could be yours. It isn't wall to
:01:01. > :01:05.wall mystery, but here we are on Wednesday. Still that low pressure
:01:06. > :01:09.anchored across the British Isles and that's going to be a real
:01:10. > :01:12.concern because that will keep those showers going for the greater part
:01:13. > :01:16.of England and Wales, and Northern Ireland. I think by that stage for
:01:17. > :01:19.the northern part of Scotland, something fresher as the isobars
:01:20. > :01:26.come in from the north-east and you may start to lose some of that rain
:01:27. > :01:29.at least. And then by Thursday, those showers tending to congregate
:01:30. > :01:32.across the southern half of the British Isles. Further north, a
:01:33. > :01:44.drier, if fresher prospect there and Welcome to the programme
:01:45. > :01:57.if you've just joined us. Coming up: The world is trying to
:01:58. > :02:05.come to terms with the deadliest shooting in US history. 50 people
:02:06. > :02:10.enjoying a night out at a Florida gay club are dead in an attack that
:02:11. > :02:15.targeted them because of their sexuality. Nobody can tell me where
:02:16. > :02:17.my son is, if he has been shot, if he is dead, nobody knows. They told
:02:18. > :02:23.me there are fatalities. The gunman had sworn allegiance
:02:24. > :02:25.to so-called Islamic State. The FBI interviewed him 3 times
:02:26. > :02:36.as a possible terror The FBI first became aware of Omar
:02:37. > :02:41.Mateen in 2013 when he made inflammatory allegations to
:02:42. > :02:44.co-workers alleging terrorist ties. The FBI thoroughly investigated the
:02:45. > :02:48.matter, including interviews of witnesses, physical surveillance and
:02:49. > :02:53.records checks. In the course of investigation, Mateen was
:02:54. > :02:54.interviewed twice. In the next few minutes we will talk to the cousin
:02:55. > :02:57.of one of those murdered. Also this morning: Staff in betting
:02:58. > :03:00.shops have told this programme they're expected to offer customers
:03:01. > :03:03.perks and incentives to keep them playing on controversial
:03:04. > :03:09.high-stakes betting machines. There was a suggestion from the area
:03:10. > :03:13.manager at one time if we had a customer coming in in their lunch
:03:14. > :03:16.hour, to make sure they didn't waste time getting a cheese and ham roll
:03:17. > :03:20.instead of playing the machines, that you could go out there, buy
:03:21. > :03:28.them a cheese and ham roll, and get it ready for them. We will speak to
:03:29. > :03:35.a gambling addict who lost ?200,000 on fixed odds betting terminals.
:03:36. > :03:38.With just two weeks to go before the EU referendum, we will put questions
:03:39. > :03:51.to truly independent and impartial experts. Now a round-up of the
:03:52. > :03:55.morning news with Joanna. Thank you. The FBI said the gunman who carried
:03:56. > :03:59.out the worst mass shooting in US history had been investigated for
:04:00. > :04:04.possible terrorism expert agents concluded he was not a threat. Omar
:04:05. > :04:07.Mateen, a US citizen of Afghan descent, phoned the emergency
:04:08. > :04:11.services to pledge allegiance to Islamic State before killing 50
:04:12. > :04:15.people in a gay nightclub in Orlando. His father said he had no
:04:16. > :04:23.idea his son had such a twit in his heart. President Obama killed the
:04:24. > :04:30.killings and act of terror and hate. -- had such hatred in his heart.
:04:31. > :04:32.Omar Mateen was described by the President as a person
:04:33. > :04:36.Born in New York, the 29-year-old travelled to Orlando to a gay club
:04:37. > :04:39.The shots from his assault rifle killed 50 people,
:04:40. > :04:43.He took dozens of clubbers hostage for hours, before police
:04:44. > :04:47.They shot him before he could do more harm.
:04:48. > :04:59.His ex-wife says she too suffered at his hands.
:05:00. > :05:02.Yeah, he was very short tempered, and he would often get into fights
:05:03. > :05:06.And because I guess I was the only one in his life, most
:05:07. > :05:08.of the violence was towards me at that time.
:05:09. > :05:10.Police are still identifying his many victims.
:05:11. > :05:12.Relatives and survivors searched hospitals hoping for some good news.
:05:13. > :05:17.He works at Universal and I'm just hoping we find him.
:05:18. > :05:22.I could smell the ammo in the air, and I thought, this is a gun,
:05:23. > :05:24.this isn't fireworks, we need to leave.
:05:25. > :05:27.As the investigation continues, there are several words that sum
:05:28. > :05:37.This is a city trying to make sense of the senseless,
:05:38. > :05:40.and they are doing it in their own way.
:05:41. > :05:44.Hundreds of people queued for hours to donate blood to help those
:05:45. > :05:48.in hospital, a small act of kindness that gave Orlando a glimpse
:05:49. > :05:55.of humanity at its best, after it had seen its very worst.
:05:56. > :05:58.In Orlando, the city's authorities have started to release
:05:59. > :06:10.Gathering together, families hoping for good news or fearing the worst.
:06:11. > :06:16.But the fate of some of the victims is clear.
:06:17. > :06:18.34-year-old Edward Sotomayer Junior died in the attack.
:06:19. > :06:22.His cousin David said he was a caring, energetic man.
:06:23. > :06:27.He was known for wearing a silly top hat on cruises.
:06:28. > :06:29.Stanley Almodovar also killed at the age of 23,
:06:30. > :06:32.described as kind but sassy and proud of who he was.
:06:33. > :06:35.His mother, Rosalie Ramos, said he posted a video of himself
:06:36. > :06:45.And 22-year-old Luis Vielma lost his life during the mass shooting.
:06:46. > :06:49.But some were more lucky and managed to escape.
:06:50. > :06:51.You hear what sounds like fireworks and balloons popping,
:06:52. > :06:55.and you assume it's part of the show, and then you hear
:06:56. > :06:59.people start screaming, and the sound doesn't stop,
:07:00. > :07:01.and people start falling, and you realise it's not
:07:02. > :07:10.And at that point I realised I needed to get out.
:07:11. > :07:13.The extent of this attack is still unfolding as the number of people
:07:14. > :07:16.killed may still rise. Oscar Pistorius is in court this
:07:17. > :07:24.morning to face sentencing for the murder of his girlfriend
:07:25. > :07:27.Reeva Steenkamp three years ago. The athlete was
:07:28. > :07:29.previously charged with manslaughter, but that was
:07:30. > :07:31.overturned and changed The Paralympic gold medallist
:07:32. > :07:48.is facing a minimum 15-year A short while ago, a clinical
:07:49. > :07:58.psychologist for the defence gave a statement of the athlete's state of
:07:59. > :08:02.health and ability to give evidence. He appeared to have limited energy
:08:03. > :08:08.and his concentration wavered. He had no perceptual disturbances. He
:08:09. > :08:10.displayed signs and reported symptoms of post-traumatic stress
:08:11. > :08:16.disorder, anxiety disorder and depressive disorder. If it was
:08:17. > :08:21.possible to call him as a witness, what is your view of his state of
:08:22. > :08:27.mind? In my opinion, he is not able to testify. His condition is severe.
:08:28. > :08:33.That is a summary of the latest news and I will be back at 10:30am. Thank
:08:34. > :08:41.you. Some comments from you at this point from Orlando. This from Becky,
:08:42. > :08:45.as part of the LGBT, I am here, I am not going anywhere, I am proud of
:08:46. > :08:50.who I am. And Mark, the owner of a LGBT venue in London, it is with
:08:51. > :08:54.sadness and anger that I watched this unfold. We have warned our
:08:55. > :08:58.police fear of constant issues regarding illicit venue visits and
:08:59. > :09:03.the venue being approached by specific groups of people. Maybe
:09:04. > :09:07.they will take seriously now. These are shocking, sad times. Do get in
:09:08. > :09:10.touch with us throughout the morning. If you are texting, you
:09:11. > :09:20.will be charged at the standard network rate. Now the sport with
:09:21. > :09:25.Sally. No? Yes! Hello. Yes, it is me, life in Paris this morning. It
:09:26. > :09:29.is worth showing everybody at home Le Figaro this morning, which has
:09:30. > :09:34.done an analysis of the trouble over the weekend. We have seen a lot on
:09:35. > :09:36.television and in the newspapers about the violence in Marseille
:09:37. > :09:42.particularly on Saturday which was very bad, which is when it flared
:09:43. > :09:47.up. There is a double page spread in this newspaper, analysing what went
:09:48. > :09:50.wrong, talking about the English fans, but really interestingly, full
:09:51. > :09:54.analysis of what happened inside the stadium and laying the blame very
:09:55. > :09:59.firmly at Russian fans, who were brutal, behaving in a brutal way,
:10:00. > :10:04.and racist actions as well. Also raising questions about the style of
:10:05. > :10:08.policing here, how it is being managed, and actually saying that in
:10:09. > :10:12.terms of English hooliganism, the British police have really got a
:10:13. > :10:17.handle on that now. In terms of Premier League matches, it simply
:10:18. > :10:20.doesn't happen so much. You can see scenes of French police, a high
:10:21. > :10:26.profile presence of the French police and the army on the streets,
:10:27. > :10:29.and roads closed everywhere. Their approach to managing football crowds
:10:30. > :10:35.is very different to the way it is at home. That is something the fans
:10:36. > :10:40.are getting used to. On the field, there was disappointment for fans of
:10:41. > :10:44.Northern Ireland. They lost 1-0 to Poland yesterday, meaning that Wales
:10:45. > :10:48.are now the only home nation to have registered a victory from their
:10:49. > :10:52.opening game, meaning Thursday's huge match against England becomes
:10:53. > :10:55.even more significant. Hywel Griffith has been following the
:10:56. > :11:04.Welsh team and joins me now from Dinard, the Welsh camp. What is the
:11:05. > :11:09.very latest from training today? Well, they are training here at the
:11:10. > :11:13.moment, as you can see. Everybody in buoyant mood. All the players who
:11:14. > :11:16.played in that historic game on Saturday have come through
:11:17. > :11:20.unscathed. Wayne Hennessey, the keeper, who sat out the game on
:11:21. > :11:25.Saturday because of a back spasm, we are told he will hopefully be fit
:11:26. > :11:29.and well for that game on Thursday against England. Everybody here is
:11:30. > :11:34.buoyant. They enjoyed that historic moment but the focus has got to be
:11:35. > :11:37.on England and that game. The players will be familiar with the
:11:38. > :11:41.challenge ahead. They will play day-to-day football some of them
:11:42. > :11:45.with their opponents, but they will have to take this challenge
:11:46. > :11:47.seriously. They go in with the wind behind them, knowing England are
:11:48. > :11:52.under pressure from the media, and it is England with only one point.
:11:53. > :11:58.Wales group leaders at the moment but they will be under no illusions
:11:59. > :12:00.that it will be a very tough test. The rivalry between Wales and
:12:01. > :12:04.England is building up as the week goes on with Roy Hodgson saying that
:12:05. > :12:08.Gareth Bale is disrespectful to say that the Welsh have more pride and
:12:09. > :12:16.passion than the English. How are they handling the extra pressure
:12:17. > :12:19.that this match is going to bring? I think arguably they took a heap
:12:20. > :12:24.pressure of themselves by winning that opening game three points in
:12:25. > :12:28.the bag already and two points to go. I will say this quietly at the
:12:29. > :12:33.moment, even if they do not beat England, they have a good chance of
:12:34. > :12:36.going through the group. That has taken pressure off. This morning we
:12:37. > :12:39.are seeing laughter and smiles, which gives you an impression of how
:12:40. > :12:44.they are enjoying the tournament so far. Of course they will be up for
:12:45. > :12:47.it. You expect this type of discussion before a game about Wales
:12:48. > :12:55.having more passion and pride. They may not have the numbers of English
:12:56. > :12:58.fans, but they will go in, singing their hearts out on Thursday. Lovely
:12:59. > :13:02.to talk to you. Be careful what you say because you never know who is
:13:03. > :13:05.listening! A promising day of football ahead today. Republic of
:13:06. > :13:09.Ireland play Sweden in Paris and that game is live on BBC One at five
:13:10. > :13:14.o'clock tonight. Italy against Belgium is also on BBC at eight
:13:15. > :13:16.o'clock. Before those two games, Spain play the Czech Republic. An
:13:17. > :13:25.exciting day ahead. Thank you. The FBI has said the gunman who shot
:13:26. > :13:28.dead 50 people at a gay nightclub in Florida was investigated
:13:29. > :13:30.for possible terrorism links, but officials concluded
:13:31. > :13:36.he didn't pose a threat. Omar Mateen carried out the worst
:13:37. > :13:38.mass shooting in modern US history in the early hours
:13:39. > :13:40.of yesterday morning. President Obama has called
:13:41. > :13:42.it an act of terror Some of the people were able
:13:43. > :13:46.to text their relatives One mother, Mina Justice,
:13:47. > :13:54.says her son texted, "Mommy I love you -
:13:55. > :14:08.in club, they shooting", then "he has us and he's
:14:09. > :14:10.going to kill us." "Call them
:14:11. > :14:11.mommy", "he's coming" And that she said was it,
:14:12. > :14:15.she heard no more from her son. Many of the victims have yet to be
:14:16. > :14:18.identified, but details are emerging of some of those
:14:19. > :14:21.who were slaughtered by Omar Mateen, a man who had sworn allegiance
:14:22. > :14:23.to so-called Islamic-State and was deliberately
:14:24. > :14:25.targetting gay people. 22-year-old Juan Ramon
:14:26. > :14:26.Guerrero had only He was worried about
:14:27. > :14:29.how they'd react. As it turned out they were accepting
:14:30. > :14:33.and just wanted him to be happy. Now they're coming to terms
:14:34. > :14:36.with the fact that their son has 23-year-old Stanley Almodovar posted
:14:37. > :14:49.a Snapchat video of himself singing and laughing on his way
:14:50. > :14:51.to the Pulse club. His mother had prepared a tomato
:14:52. > :14:54.and cheese dip for him to eat His mother described him as kind,
:14:55. > :14:59.but sassy and someone 37-year-old Kimberly Morris worked
:15:00. > :15:04.as a bouncer at the club. She'd only moved there
:15:05. > :15:07.a few months ago. Everyone says she was
:15:08. > :15:10.a kind, sweet person. One friend said, "I can't think
:15:11. > :15:14.of a time when I did not see a smile 34-year-old Edward Sotomayor
:15:15. > :15:19.is described as a caring, His cousin David Sotomayor says,
:15:20. > :15:27."He was just always part We can talk to David Sotomayor now
:15:28. > :15:34.who's cousin, Edward Sotomayor, known as Eddie, was
:15:35. > :15:41.killed in the attack. We will also speak to a human rights
:15:42. > :16:01.activist. Tell us about your cousin, Eddie.
:16:02. > :16:05.Hello. Hello. Hi, can you hear me, David? I can
:16:06. > :16:09.hear you now. I hear you now. Thank you very much for talking to us at
:16:10. > :16:13.this time. I really appreciate you giving us a couple of minutes and I
:16:14. > :16:22.wonder if you could tell us about your cousin. Tell us what he was
:16:23. > :16:28.like. My cousin was an amazing person. There are tens of thousands
:16:29. > :16:35.of people who got the privilege of meeting. I got to meet him a decade
:16:36. > :16:41.ago. I didn't know my New York family at that time. I was
:16:42. > :16:45.privileged to perform in Florida where I met him and we tried to
:16:46. > :16:48.figure out our family tree and we just realised, it didn't matter, we
:16:49. > :16:52.were cousins and since that day, we always kept in touch and just been
:16:53. > :16:59.amazing and he had the privilege to work with one of the cruises I
:17:00. > :17:12.worked with and from there, he got to meet so many of my sisters. He
:17:13. > :17:17.was just amazing. His top hat, he his gimmick was with his top hat and
:17:18. > :17:20.outside of a cruise, outside of anything, everybody knew his top hat
:17:21. > :17:26.and knew his personality. He was amazing. It is just a sad day right
:17:27. > :17:37.now. I'm just so glad that I came out. I honestly came out to come to
:17:38. > :17:42.one of the organisations to raise funds for this miserable, event that
:17:43. > :17:47.just happened and honestly, to see all the people out here, everybody
:17:48. > :17:53.making such an effort to make it known and know that it's, it was a
:17:54. > :17:56.horrible moment, but I know my cousin Eddie would not want me to
:17:57. > :18:07.stay at home and cry, but come out and fight. And still make sure that
:18:08. > :18:16.everybody out here be proud. I'm here. I miss him. I can't believe
:18:17. > :18:21.that something so hateful, to such a great person happened. How do you
:18:22. > :18:30.react to the fact that it appears your cousin was killed along with 49
:18:31. > :18:34.others because of their sexuality? Well, the thing was that I heard
:18:35. > :18:39.there was a shooting. I'm from Chicago. There is so much chaos that
:18:40. > :18:45.happens here and I heard and I called a couple of friends to see if
:18:46. > :18:49.they were OK and I woke up this morning and I found out that my
:18:50. > :18:52.cousin was one of the victims and that's when everything just shot out
:18:53. > :18:56.and went crazy and I didn't get on the news. I didn't know anything. It
:18:57. > :19:01.wasn't until I was in the cab that I heard on the news all the
:19:02. > :19:09.affiliation and everything that happened which, it... I mean, you
:19:10. > :19:14.can imagine, how horrible that felt and knowing that my fans and it
:19:15. > :19:19.brought out light to a lot of people that are following, it makes me
:19:20. > :19:22.realise if I have a name, I need to make sure that things need to be
:19:23. > :19:29.changed and have a voice for the community because honestly, he was
:19:30. > :19:35.amazing. Anybody that knew him, knows that he had no problem. He was
:19:36. > :19:38.always that person to make you smile and make sure you are doing
:19:39. > :19:43.positivity. I have been out here all day and I will continue to strive
:19:44. > :19:48.forward and continue to make sure that I make this happen. And be a
:19:49. > :19:52.voice because if I have a voice now, I'm going to make sure that we know
:19:53. > :19:56.that we cannot stay silent and we have to stand strong and be proud.
:19:57. > :20:00.We're not going to let this happen. We are going to still celebrate
:20:01. > :20:05.Pride and we are going to be happy for who we are because we have gone
:20:06. > :20:12.through too much to let something so ignorant and so stupid stop us.
:20:13. > :20:18.David, you are displaying remarkable strength and stowism. I want to
:20:19. > :20:22.introduce you to my guest in London, Peter who is a Human Rights activist
:20:23. > :20:25.who campaigns to stop hate crime against gay people. I'm sure first
:20:26. > :20:31.of all you would want to express your condolences to our friend in
:20:32. > :20:37.Chicago? Absolutely, you know, my heartfelt condolences to all the
:20:38. > :20:44.loved ones of those who died. And my thanks to people who are standing up
:20:45. > :20:49.tall and proud this day to say that LGBT people won't go away, we won't
:20:50. > :20:53.be bowed down, the love about triumph over hate. I'm glad to have
:20:54. > :20:56.so many people, sending love and support, but there were so many
:20:57. > :21:03.other victims that need to know that. The pain is not just here and
:21:04. > :21:12.it is not just... We need to make this known. We need to stand up for
:21:13. > :21:20.this. I speak to all of you. Reach out to me and let me know how I can
:21:21. > :21:25.lend a hand. Be out there and open. I'm standing here today saying I
:21:26. > :21:33.need your help and I want your help to help me spread the word that we
:21:34. > :21:37.will not bow down. We are going to stand tall, stand strong and
:21:38. > :21:42.continue to be proud of who we are. Tonight in London, there will
:21:43. > :21:45.abvigil of solidarity in Old Compton Street Soho to stand with the
:21:46. > :21:50.victims in the United States. I think to remind ourselves that
:21:51. > :21:55.despite the huge gains made by LGBT people in countries like Britain and
:21:56. > :21:58.the United States, still there is a violent minority of homeo fobs who
:21:59. > :22:05.are prepared to hate us and sometimes even attack and kill us
:22:06. > :22:10.and what happened, the massacre that happened in Orlando is a snapshot of
:22:11. > :22:13.an extreme snapshot of a daily violence that LGBT people suffer
:22:14. > :22:17.over the world. There are hate crimes in Britain, the United States
:22:18. > :22:22.and every western country almost every day of the week. The situation
:22:23. > :22:27.is even worse in countries like Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq, in
:22:28. > :22:33.large parts of Africa, gay people live in constant fear of being
:22:34. > :22:38.killed. The same in Central America, in Honduras, 30 plus LGBT activists
:22:39. > :22:43.have been murdered by right-wing death squads. The picture is pretty
:22:44. > :22:48.grim for most LGBT people around the world. This is an extreme example,
:22:49. > :22:51.but there was a daily cycle of violence going on in most countries
:22:52. > :22:56.around the world against the LGBT community. It is not only LGBT, it
:22:57. > :23:02.is women's rights, it is everythingment we need to stop. It
:23:03. > :23:12.is unnecessary. We cannot keep doing this. It makes no sense. And to lose
:23:13. > :23:18.people that supported so many different rights makes no sense. It
:23:19. > :23:23.makes no sense. I want to ask you Peter in particular what you think
:23:24. > :23:29.the threat is to the gay community from Islamic extremists in the west?
:23:30. > :23:34.Well, I think we have in terms of organised violent terrorism, we have
:23:35. > :23:40.twin threats. Firstly from the far-right, neo-Nazi movement. We
:23:41. > :23:45.must remember in 1999, a right-wing extremist David cope land planted a
:23:46. > :23:50.bomb, in the black community in Brixton and then in the Asian
:23:51. > :23:57.community in Brick Lane and then in the gay community in Soho and that
:23:58. > :24:02.bomb killed three people and left many others with life changing
:24:03. > :24:08.injuries. The threat of right-wing neo-Nazi extremism is there, but
:24:09. > :24:11.Islamist extremism which is a version of far-right extremism.
:24:12. > :24:15.These people have a path owe logical hatred of Jewish people, liberal
:24:16. > :24:21.progressive mus littles and many others. So we need to be vigilant
:24:22. > :24:25.and to, as mentioned, stand together in solidarity with all vulnerable
:24:26. > :24:29.communities and I hope there will be increased steps to protect those
:24:30. > :24:34.communities, tuckly gay, Jewish and Muslim communities against the
:24:35. > :24:37.threat posed by these right-wing far-right extremists from the
:24:38. > :24:43.Islamist end. You know, they are not Muslims per se, most Muslim people,
:24:44. > :24:49.of course, disagree with this and we must never, ever deem onnise or
:24:50. > :24:53.scapegoat the Muslim community because of an extreme action by a
:24:54. > :24:57.tiny unrepresented minority. Some viewers' comments. This text from
:24:58. > :25:00.Jill, "I feel it is extremely important for those of us who are
:25:01. > :25:05.not gay to join hands with our peers. This ins didn't is repulsive
:25:06. > :25:08.and totally unnecessary. No matter colour, creed, gender or sexual
:25:09. > :25:13.preference. My support goes to all concerned. I'm a teacher and this
:25:14. > :25:17.compels me to teach more equality and diversity." This text from
:25:18. > :25:21.someone who doesn't leave their name, "My daughter is 14 and gay.
:25:22. > :25:27.She is bullied at school and to see this just makes me sick to the
:25:28. > :25:32.stomach that in such a world that there are is still such hatred
:25:33. > :25:35.towards LGBT peoplement we live in a very blinkered and small-minded
:25:36. > :25:41.world and my love goes to those who have lost a loved one." David, we
:25:42. > :25:45.can see behind you, various tributes, various flowers, various
:25:46. > :25:56.flags, I wonder if you could read some of the tributes using your
:25:57. > :26:01.camera if you wouldn't mind, David. It has been an on-going tribute and
:26:02. > :26:06.I am so blessed to know so many people are out there behind this
:26:07. > :26:11.cause and we need to make that and we are not going to be scared, we
:26:12. > :26:14.will stand out and we will celebrate our pride and we will continue
:26:15. > :26:18.because that's what we're here for. We can see a sign behind you. It is
:26:19. > :26:24.the white sign with the black writing, but I can't make out the
:26:25. > :26:29.words. Are you able to read for us or read one of the other tributes?
:26:30. > :26:33.The sign says we are a community and affected as such. Thoughts, and
:26:34. > :26:37.prayers to our Orlando brothers and sisters. David, thank you very much
:26:38. > :26:44.for your time. Thank you for talking to us. David, whose cousin, Eddie,
:26:45. > :26:46.was killed in the attack on Saturday night in the Pulse nightclub and
:26:47. > :27:03.Peter, thaup for your time as well. Vigils are being held across America
:27:04. > :27:07.as the country tries to come to terms with the worst mass shooting
:27:08. > :27:12.in its history. President Obama called the attack an act of terror
:27:13. > :27:19.and hate. The gunman, Omar Mateen, worked as a security guard and had a
:27:20. > :27:22.licence to carry a concealed weapon. What sounds like fireworks and
:27:23. > :27:29.balloons popping and you assume it is part of the show and then when
:27:30. > :27:33.you hear people start screaming and the sound doesn't stop and started
:27:34. > :27:38.following, you realise it is not a show anymore.
:27:39. > :27:41.At that point, I realised I needed to get out.
:27:42. > :27:44.The French authorities have urged cities hosting Euro 2016 matches
:27:45. > :27:47.to ban the sale of alcohol, in an effort to curb the violence
:27:48. > :27:49.that has marred the opening days of the competition.
:27:50. > :27:52.There are fears of further clashes as the tournament progresses,
:27:53. > :27:53.following trouble at Saturday's 1-1 draw between England
:27:54. > :27:59.The French government said nations should be held accountable
:28:00. > :28:04.Meanwhile, French police have confirmed that a Northern Ireland
:28:05. > :28:06.fan has died in Nice, after he fell over a rail
:28:07. > :28:12.Oscar Pistorius is in court this morning to face sentencing
:28:13. > :28:19.for the murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp, three years ago.
:28:20. > :28:21.The athlete was previously charged with manslaughter,
:28:22. > :28:26.but that verdict was overturned by South Africa's Supreme Court
:28:27. > :28:29.The Paralympic gold medallist is facing a minimum 15-year
:28:30. > :28:43.A clinical psychologist gave evidence to the court. Preoccupation
:28:44. > :28:48.regarding the impending procedures, guilt and his future. He appeared to
:28:49. > :28:54.have limited energy and his concentration waivered. He had no
:28:55. > :28:59.perceptionual disturbances. He displayed signs and reported
:29:00. > :29:04.symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety disorder and
:29:05. > :29:08.depressive disorder. If it was possible to call him as a witness,
:29:09. > :29:20.what is your view on that? He is not able to TV. His condition is severe.
:29:21. > :29:26.Some betting shops are offering customers perks. Some managers were
:29:27. > :29:29.told to offer free bets and to bring free drinks to customers to
:29:30. > :29:32.encourage them to keep on playing without a break. The industry says
:29:33. > :29:35.it takes responsible gambling seriously and has procedures in
:29:36. > :29:39.place to support anyone with a problem.
:29:40. > :29:44.Well, that's a summary of the news. Join me for BBC News Room Live from
:29:45. > :29:48.11am. A viewer tweeted, "It is breaking my
:29:49. > :29:55.heart to hear stories about these decent young people who went for a
:29:56. > :29:59.night out and never came out." Mika says, "God bless you all." John
:30:00. > :30:03.says, "Very sad and moving reporting on the evil killings in Orlando."
:30:04. > :30:07.Andrew Gray says, "Your programme is the first time since the attack that
:30:08. > :30:13.the focus has been on our community and not just seeing it as a just
:30:14. > :30:17.another terrorist attack." Thank you for those. Now the sport. Here is
:30:18. > :30:21.Sally in Paris. Good morning, Victoria. Northern
:30:22. > :30:25.Ireland have it all to do now. They have to make it through to the
:30:26. > :30:27.group, out of the group stage of the European Championships after they
:30:28. > :30:33.lost their opening match to Poland last night. It was only 1-0. The
:30:34. > :30:37.Irish failed to register a decent shot on target and they will need to
:30:38. > :30:40.improve with Ukraine and after that, the world champions, Germany still
:30:41. > :30:42.to come! Those two sides played last night
:30:43. > :30:57.with Germany winning 2-0. In other news, Wales's rugby tour of
:30:58. > :31:02.New Zealand will have to continue without star player George North,
:31:03. > :31:07.who suffered a significant hamstring injury during the defeat to the All
:31:08. > :31:11.Blacks on Saturday. Lewis Hamilton continued his charge up the F1
:31:12. > :31:15.driver standings after winning yesterday's Canadian Grand Prix. He
:31:16. > :31:18.finished ahead of his team-mates Nico Rosberg and is now only nine
:31:19. > :31:24.points behind him in the championship. And Alex Hales fell
:31:25. > :31:31.just short of his century as England set Sri Lanka in victory target of
:31:32. > :31:37.362 in the third and final test at Lords. They need to take ten Sri
:31:38. > :31:39.Lankan wickets today to wrap up the series 3-0. That is all the sport
:31:40. > :31:46.from Paris. Back to you. Thank you. It's just 10 days until the UK
:31:47. > :31:49.decides whether it wants to remain In a campaign that has lasted
:31:50. > :31:54.what feels like forever we have seen a whole host of claims and counter
:31:55. > :31:57.claims being pumped out from both the Leave and Remain camps,
:31:58. > :31:59.but who are we to believe? Last week we brought together
:32:00. > :32:02.a couple of totally independent and impartial experts in an attempt
:32:03. > :32:06.to try to get some Lots of you got in touch to ask
:32:07. > :32:11.for more from our experts, And with them some undecided voters
:32:12. > :32:21.who want to ask them some questions. Anand Menon is Professor
:32:22. > :32:30.of European Politics and Foreign Affairs at Kings College
:32:31. > :32:33.and the director of their EU Will Moy is the director
:32:34. > :32:39.of Full Fact, an organisation fact checking on issues
:32:40. > :32:43.around the EU Referendum. And Kismet Meyon, Hannah Buchanan,
:32:44. > :32:55.Anthony Olanipekun and Lubna Why should we believe you? We are
:32:56. > :32:59.nonpartisan fact checking charity which has been going since 2010. We
:33:00. > :33:04.don't take sides on any debate and we will be fact checking after the
:33:05. > :33:07.referendum as well. We also don't take sides and we let people know
:33:08. > :33:14.what the best research as to say about things so people can decide
:33:15. > :33:19.themselves. First question? Around 80,000 people in the UK are homeless
:33:20. > :33:27.this year. My question is what we would see if we leave. Would there
:33:28. > :33:31.be more housing, less housing, with that issue get resolved, would it
:33:32. > :33:38.increase? There are lots of different bits to this. This is not
:33:39. > :33:42.something the EU does directly, so it is not like farming where if we
:33:43. > :33:45.leave we need a new policy. It is about indirect effects. Some people
:33:46. > :33:49.say we can cut down on the number of migrants and free up housing. Other
:33:50. > :33:54.experts say migration will not fall that much if we leave. There is
:33:55. > :33:57.that. There is a possibility according to many economists that
:33:58. > :34:00.house prices might fall if we leave, but actually what we do about
:34:01. > :34:05.homelessness is a matter for our government. It will depend on who is
:34:06. > :34:09.in charge after we vote to leave and it will depend on how healthy the
:34:10. > :34:12.economy is. If the worst predictions prove to be true and our economy
:34:13. > :34:17.goes downhill after we leave, there will be less money for everything,
:34:18. > :34:23.but people dispute the claims about how badly the economy will be hit.
:34:24. > :34:27.Hannah, what about you? I am concerned about the NHS because all
:34:28. > :34:32.of a certain the NHS has been in so many of these debates about funding
:34:33. > :34:36.and patient capacity. I am really concerned about what happens if we
:34:37. > :34:42.stay in, if we go out. Do I believe the facts I am told by the
:34:43. > :34:45.politicians and all these people? Do I go against them? That is your
:34:46. > :34:53.decision to believe them or not but what would you say about the NHS and
:34:54. > :34:56.funding and capacity related to net migration? The NHS is run by the UK
:34:57. > :35:00.Government, or rather the devolved governments. The NHS as England is
:35:01. > :35:06.run in Westminster and in Scotland in Scotland and so on. The EU is not
:35:07. > :35:10.in charge of it. They do do something like medicine regulation.
:35:11. > :35:13.The head of the NHS, the chief executive, stood up on the Andrew
:35:14. > :35:18.Marr Show a few weeks ago and said he thought it was an issue for the
:35:19. > :35:23.NHS. He was not saying because the EU is directly in charge of the NHS.
:35:24. > :35:26.You are saying that if you listen to the governor of the Bank of England,
:35:27. > :35:30.that leaving would be bad for the economy, and things that are bad for
:35:31. > :35:34.the economy mean less money for everything including the NHS. As far
:35:35. > :35:38.as that goes, that is logical, but it is worth saying that we had a
:35:39. > :35:42.recession in 2008 and the government increased the amount of money going
:35:43. > :35:46.into the NHS, just barely, and at the price of less money going to
:35:47. > :35:58.other things, but it does not necessarily mean that if the economy
:35:59. > :36:01.goes down the NHS gets less money. Leaving certainly doesn't mean there
:36:02. > :36:04.are direct effect on the NHS in terms of how it is run. That will be
:36:05. > :36:06.up to the UK Government or the devolved governments after we leave
:36:07. > :36:09.if we leave. And what about the staff working for the NHS who are EU
:36:10. > :36:12.citizens and the number of patients needing to use the NHS who might be
:36:13. > :36:16.EU citizens? That is a really good question and quite a difficult
:36:17. > :36:19.question as well. We know for example that around 5% of people
:36:20. > :36:27.working in the English NHS are EU citizens. We know that 5% of people
:36:28. > :36:31.in England are EU citizens. We know that there have been lots of studies
:36:32. > :36:35.of the impact of immigration on public services and they tend to
:36:36. > :36:39.think it is a bit of a wash, actually. The difference isn't
:36:40. > :36:44.massive. English immigrants to pay taxes and contribute to the economy,
:36:45. > :36:48.but they also use services, and that maybe doesn't make much difference
:36:49. > :36:51.overall. The problem is of course those differences are not spread
:36:52. > :36:55.evenly throughout the country. In your local area you might be getting
:36:56. > :37:00.pressure because of an influx of people it wasn't prepared for, in
:37:01. > :37:04.schools or hospitals. And whatever else. Just because there isn't a
:37:05. > :37:11.massive overall effect, doesn't mean there are not places where there is
:37:12. > :37:14.a big effect. Anthony. Hello. My question is simple. How does leaving
:37:15. > :37:18.of staying affect the average working class citizen who wants to
:37:19. > :37:24.carry on getting on with their lives? That is broad. Do you mean
:37:25. > :37:28.jobs? Everything, livelihood generally. For myself and I can
:37:29. > :37:32.represent other people who don't understand what we should be
:37:33. > :37:36.focusing on in this debate. We are hearing about immigration, economy,
:37:37. > :37:42.but what about education and security and other things? How would
:37:43. > :37:49.leaving remaining affect the average working class citizen? Nobody knows
:37:50. > :37:52.holds and if we leave nobody can be certain what happens but I can tell
:37:53. > :37:55.you what the two sides are saying and unpick that. On the Remain side,
:37:56. > :37:59.they say working people stand to lose if we leave because the economy
:38:00. > :38:04.might be small and that would mean fewer jobs. If we leave, there is a
:38:05. > :38:07.study published by the national attitude of economic and social
:38:08. > :38:12.research, and they said the lowest paid would be worth it. On the other
:38:13. > :38:17.side, the Leave camp say that what the EU does is great for big
:38:18. > :38:21.businesses and corporations and fat cats, so actually if we leave, we
:38:22. > :38:26.can retard it our energy away from those people and towards ordinary
:38:27. > :38:30.working people. -- we can target our energy. But you have to decide who
:38:31. > :38:34.you believe because we are talking about the future and we don't know
:38:35. > :38:38.what will happen in the future. But that will take time, putting that
:38:39. > :38:46.energy into the working class. That would take a long time, we are
:38:47. > :38:50.talking years. We are talking about the economic impact of the EU but
:38:51. > :38:54.also whichever government we voted in 2020 and what they decide to do,
:38:55. > :39:02.so it is as much a question at the domestic level as the referendum. I
:39:03. > :39:05.have a couple of questions. From both sides we hear either that the
:39:06. > :39:10.EU is the best thing that has ever happened to us and on the other side
:39:11. > :39:14.it is the worst thing, it is very black and white. I think most of us
:39:15. > :39:19.know, being reasonable people who can think for ourselves somewhat, we
:39:20. > :39:27.know it cannot be quite as black and white as that. If we were to leave,
:39:28. > :39:33.what are the pathways available to us? Is there any pathway available
:39:34. > :39:40.to change the EU? Are we stuck with it? If we vote to leave, you still
:39:41. > :39:44.want to change it? All of us. We don't believe the politicians who
:39:45. > :39:48.say it would all be fantastic. Let's say we do vote to leave, then there
:39:49. > :39:53.is a big choice that follows after that. The question is whether we
:39:54. > :39:56.stay in the single market or whether we leave the single market
:39:57. > :40:00.completely. If you are in the single market, which Norway is for example,
:40:01. > :40:04.you are probably signed up to freedom of movement which means EU
:40:05. > :40:08.citizens being able to come and go, and who are probably signed up to
:40:09. > :40:12.accepting a lot of EU law, not all of it, and you are probably signed
:40:13. > :40:18.up to playing some money into the EU system in some way or other. Norway
:40:19. > :40:20.is involved in EU lawmaking in a consultative way. They have
:40:21. > :40:23.discussions about the laws that might affect it but they don't have
:40:24. > :40:31.a vote on them. You might have that kind of relationship and the
:40:32. > :40:33.government would handle that for us. If we leave altogether, then you are
:40:34. > :40:37.lobbying completely from the outside, just as we do with any
:40:38. > :40:47.other group of countries outside the UK. If we remain, how can we change
:40:48. > :40:51.it? You are the expert here. Thanks. If we remain and retain our seat on
:40:52. > :40:55.the table, we get a vote on everything. All EU laws have to be
:40:56. > :40:59.approved by governments, so the government gets a vote. There are
:41:00. > :41:03.lots of things on the government agenda at the moment that we will
:41:04. > :41:07.like. Opening up a digital market so we can buy and sell online more
:41:08. > :41:14.easily and being in will give us a say over that. The other thing you
:41:15. > :41:18.can do if you stay in is stopping things you don't like. There has
:41:19. > :41:27.been rumour-mongering about anti-EU armoury -- and EU army. You say that
:41:28. > :41:32.but I don't feel like I have any say over Europe. They make laws for us
:41:33. > :41:38.and we don't get a chance to vote on who they are. This is where I
:41:39. > :41:42.sympathise with you. What is the impact on my life going to be? You
:41:43. > :41:48.get big overall numbers on how it will affect the economy, but nobody
:41:49. > :41:53.translates that into what it means if I live here, if I have this job,
:41:54. > :41:56.I do this with my life. On lawmaking, the process he is
:41:57. > :42:03.describing is whether the government is talking to other governments, and
:42:04. > :42:07.that is not a process that is very close to us. They do it on our
:42:08. > :42:14.behalf and we don't have a direct say. The Council of ministers is one
:42:15. > :42:17.minister from each of the countries in the EU talking about what should
:42:18. > :42:24.happen and signing off on laws. That can feel very distant from your
:42:25. > :42:30.day-to-day lives. Actually translating that is difficult. We
:42:31. > :42:37.don't have time now but we can bring you back. Can we talk afterwards?
:42:38. > :42:44.Yes! We have ten days to go, so obviously we will be returning to
:42:45. > :42:49.it. We want to talk about the Human Rights Act. I promise we will come
:42:50. > :42:54.to that but not now, so it looks like you guys are coming back. The
:42:55. > :42:57.Labour MP Stephen Kinnock will be answering your questions at 11:30am
:42:58. > :43:02.on the BBC News Channel. You can get in touch:
:43:03. > :43:05.Staff in betting shops have told this programme they're being told
:43:06. > :43:07.to offer customers perks and incentives to keep them playing
:43:08. > :43:09.on controversial high stakes betting machines.
:43:10. > :43:11.Managers claim they're told to offer free bets,
:43:12. > :43:18.And, in one case, it was suggested lunch was bought for a high spending
:43:19. > :43:20.customer so he could keep playing without a break.
:43:21. > :43:22.The industry says it takes responsible gambling seriously
:43:23. > :43:28.and has procedures in place to catch and support anyone with a problem.
:43:29. > :43:30.We brought you Jim Reed's full report earlier in the programme.
:43:31. > :43:38.The betting industry has been growing fast over the last few years
:43:39. > :43:41.and the big chains now make big money from these fixed odd betting
:43:42. > :43:48.Machines which offer electronic roulette and other casino games.
:43:49. > :43:51.Under the current rules each shop can have a maximum of four.
:43:52. > :43:53.The last ten years, when the machines came in,
:43:54. > :43:57.They seemed to have a lot more problems.
:43:58. > :43:59.John, not his real name, was until recently
:44:00. > :44:03.He still has connections to the industry so doesn't
:44:04. > :44:09.We were given instructions, machine players, as soon
:44:10. > :44:12.as they come in, tea, coffee, whatever they want.
:44:13. > :44:15.So were you encouraged to make machine players in particular feel
:44:16. > :44:26.If the shop was too hot for them, we would turn the heating
:44:27. > :44:30.They were the gods of the betting shop.
:44:31. > :44:33.Coral told us it rejects the allegations made in this report.
:44:34. > :44:54.We spoke to another two store managers
:44:55. > :44:58.Both talked about the pressure they felt to hit financial targets
:44:59. > :45:10.One passed us internal e-mails he was sent from Coral's central
:45:11. > :45:35.It was about a new FOBT game called Big Banker.
:45:36. > :45:37.We showed the e-mails to Matt Zarb-Cousin from
:45:38. > :45:42.I think it shows really that self-regulation doesn't work.
:45:43. > :45:47.I mean, like any business, businesses, their primary objective
:45:48. > :45:51.The issue with machines is they shouldn't be allowed
:45:52. > :46:08.Under the industry's own code of conduct,
:46:09. > :46:10.all staff are meant to be trained to identify problem gamblers,
:46:11. > :46:13.but we were told it doesn't always happen.
:46:14. > :46:16.One, woman in her 20s, who does not work for Coral,
:46:17. > :46:31.The people we've spoken to seemed to suggest,
:46:32. > :46:34.who work on the shop floor, that the training does not
:46:35. > :46:37.always cascade down to the people who are working at 7pm, 8pm,
:46:38. > :46:44.It is absolutely the case that anybody joining and working
:46:45. > :46:47.in a betting shop will receive training about problem gambling.
:46:48. > :46:50.The worst environment that could be created would be to go
:46:51. > :46:55.back to the pre-1960s, and illegal bookmakers.
:46:56. > :47:01.Betting shops, though, are under pressure to do more.
:47:02. > :47:03.A parliamentary inquiry starts next month.
:47:04. > :47:05.Local councils have been pressing for stricter regulation.
:47:06. > :47:11.The industry may have to make changes before it is forced to.
:47:12. > :47:13.We can speak now to Simon Perfitt who lost ?200,000 over
:47:14. > :47:22.Carolyn Harris, a Labour MP who has set-up a group of MPs to investigate
:47:23. > :47:24.And Malcolm George, Chief Executive of the Association
:47:25. > :47:37.Welcome all of you. Malcolm George since we played Jim's piece earlier,
:47:38. > :47:42.Matt says, "I work in a bookies. We had to find ten VIP fixed odds
:47:43. > :47:49.betting terminal players so they would play more." CT says, "I once
:47:50. > :47:55.had a customer do 10 K in a day. The area manager called me and said well
:47:56. > :47:58.done." This e-mail from Charles who uses betting shops, "I play these
:47:59. > :48:01.machines and he names three different operators. One of the
:48:02. > :48:06.operators, I'm offered a drink upon entry. One of the operators I'm
:48:07. > :48:10.being asked to trial new games. One of the operators, the manager tries
:48:11. > :48:15.to get every single person placing a bet to take on a connect card
:48:16. > :48:19.because they will earn lots of bonuses and there is no logical
:48:20. > :48:25.reason for not doing it." It is going on. Well, let's unbundle some
:48:26. > :48:29.of the accusations. We do offer tea and coffee in our shops. They are a
:48:30. > :48:34.social environment and we want our staff to interact. They are perks
:48:35. > :48:37.and incentives? Tea and coffee, anyone goes in a betting shop,
:48:38. > :48:41.whether you are betting on horses or greyhounds, you can have a cup of
:48:42. > :48:45.tea or coffee. You compare it to any other industry. In the drinks
:48:46. > :48:49.industry, they offer salty snacks that make you drink more, but in tea
:48:50. > :48:54.and coffee don't influence your gambling. Instead, they allow our
:48:55. > :48:58.staff to interact and that is the most important element of a betting
:48:59. > :49:02.shop. What about the financial targets that staff in betting shops
:49:03. > :49:06.are expected to reach. Managers at one operator get an annual bonus
:49:07. > :49:10.which is dependant on various things including having to meet financial
:49:11. > :49:16.targets on these particular betting terminals? Staff are incentivised to
:49:17. > :49:23.encourage people to ice their shops whether it is for horses... To use
:49:24. > :49:27.the fixed odds betting terminals? It may form an element of their bonus,
:49:28. > :49:32.but they are encouraged to make shops, clean and tidy and places
:49:33. > :49:36.people want to go. No alarm bells ringing about the targets and
:49:37. > :49:43.financial incentives... Across retail... No alarm bells ringing? I
:49:44. > :49:46.know how our members work. I know incentives provide a part of the
:49:47. > :49:50.package of somebody working in a shop, does that create a positive
:49:51. > :49:54.shop? Does that create an environment where people want to go?
:49:55. > :50:01.Yes, it does. Does... Do you think it leads to addiction? No, not at
:50:02. > :50:05.all. We are not, we are absolutely do not encourage addiction. Our
:50:06. > :50:11.members will remove the target of somebody if they are subsequently
:50:12. > :50:15.barred from a shop. So... You're frowning at most things Malcolm is
:50:16. > :50:21.saying, why? That's not what I'm hearing. That's not the scenarios
:50:22. > :50:24.I'm hearing. I heard the bit about being sociable and having a tea and
:50:25. > :50:28.coffee, I have been told they are providing community service. There
:50:29. > :50:32.are other places to go far more beneficial to the community and to
:50:33. > :50:36.the individual than to a bookmakers shop where these addictive machines
:50:37. > :50:40.are which are as addictive as crack cocaine. They are as addictive. And
:50:41. > :50:44.it has been my experience since I've, since I've come to be an MP
:50:45. > :50:48.and I've spoken to people and people have gone out of their way to
:50:49. > :50:54.contact me and tell me the machines are ruining lives and in some cases,
:50:55. > :50:59.taking lives. Simon, in terms of the damaging effect, your addiction to
:51:00. > :51:03.these terminals has been loosing ?200,000 over ten years. What drew
:51:04. > :51:10.you to them in the first place? Well, my experience is similar to
:51:11. > :51:15.Tony's in the film. But it is not really about money, I suppose, it is
:51:16. > :51:21.about the time you lose. The relationships that you lose. And
:51:22. > :51:28.despite what Malcolm says, they are addictive machines. His own data,
:51:29. > :51:34.from his own industry, which was looked at this year, found that one
:51:35. > :51:40.in four people that play FOBTs are addicts. That's 25%. That's not
:51:41. > :51:46.technically right, is it? The real figure is in fact, that was... I can
:51:47. > :51:52.show you the report. A small group was selected specifically because
:51:53. > :51:59.they were loyalty card players. A group which is not involved. Loyalty
:52:00. > :52:03.card customers are not the most involved gamblers. It is probably
:52:04. > :52:07.higher. Only the ones with loyalty cards are trackable or traceable. We
:52:08. > :52:12.can argue about the numbers and the figures and the percentages. What is
:52:13. > :52:19.interesting amongst many interesting things is that you say there is no
:52:20. > :52:23.issue, it is fine? No, I am not an addiction denier, but I believe that
:52:24. > :52:27.gambling addiction is multi-facetted. It can exhibit
:52:28. > :52:33.itself in machines. It can exhibit itself in casinos and exhibit itself
:52:34. > :52:39.in amusement arcades and if we are to focus on problem gamblers and you
:52:40. > :52:44.mentioned Tony and he had a multi-facetted gambling problem. His
:52:45. > :52:48.addiction started long before FOBTs. People who work in betting shops,
:52:49. > :52:52.who continue to work in betting shops, you dismiss the tea and
:52:53. > :52:55.coffee as a sociable thing. They feel it is encouraging people to
:52:56. > :53:00.stay in the shops and spend more? Do we want to go back to some 1960s
:53:01. > :53:05.environment where we are covering up the windows... No, no, they are not
:53:06. > :53:09.suggesting that. They are sensible people who work in the shops say
:53:10. > :53:14.these are incentre tis and perk that is we're expected to offer? Tea and
:53:15. > :53:20.coffee don't encourage people to gamble, they do the opposite. They
:53:21. > :53:25.allow people to take a break from their gambling and allow people to
:53:26. > :53:29.interact with our staff. Removing tea and coffee is insane. It is not
:53:30. > :53:36.just tea and coffee. A young man comes in on a Saturday to place a
:53:37. > :53:42.football bet, and you give them a voucher for a machine for free
:53:43. > :53:45.spins. You're trying to hook sports gamblers in into machine gambling
:53:46. > :53:48.because you know most of your profits come from machine gambling.
:53:49. > :53:53.That's a fact. They don't come from machine gambling. It is about
:53:54. > :53:56.half-and-half. The point is about the free voucher, that's the point.
:53:57. > :54:01.Allowing somebody to play a game or encourage somebody to play a game
:54:02. > :54:04.that is no more addictive than any other activity to where he has the
:54:05. > :54:09.option of a casino. He has the option of playing online. He has the
:54:10. > :54:15.option of a bookmaker. That is the right... If it is such a sociable
:54:16. > :54:19.and pleasant environment to be in, when the machines are getting
:54:20. > :54:24.smashed up, which they are, why is it bookmaker staff told me that they
:54:25. > :54:28.are not allowed to phone the police, they can phone to have the machine
:54:29. > :54:32.repaired and ban the player. Any aggression in a betting shop, we
:54:33. > :54:35.report it to the police. These crime numbers are down. Thank you very
:54:36. > :54:42.much for coming on the programme. Thank you.
:54:43. > :54:51.The gunman suspected of carrying out America's deadliest terrorist attack
:54:52. > :54:58.The father of one opened fire with an assault rival and took hostages
:54:59. > :55:01.before being killed by police. President Obama said the attack was
:55:02. > :55:07.a reminder of how easy it was for Americans to buy guns. According to
:55:08. > :55:11.the website Mass Shooting Tracker, the Orlando attack was the 176th
:55:12. > :55:15.time this year in which four or more people in the US were killed or
:55:16. > :55:25.injured by a single incident involving a gun.
:55:26. > :55:38.Let's talk to Benjamin Brown. Benjamin Brown first of all, you
:55:39. > :55:42.will have heard, of course, people saying that the gun controls have to
:55:43. > :55:45.be tightened. A lot of people asking why a man who was apparently
:55:46. > :55:50.mentally unstable and who had been questioned by the FBI on three
:55:51. > :55:54.occasion was able to buy a handgun and assault rival in recent days?
:55:55. > :56:00.Yes, I'm not sure why he was able to. That's a fault on the FBI for
:56:01. > :56:05.their background check. If he was able to pass a background check, the
:56:06. > :56:09.only person liable there was the FBI. If he was investigated twice in
:56:10. > :56:13.the past three years, the person who sold the firearm did his job. The
:56:14. > :56:16.gentleman who took the firearm and committed the crime, he is the one
:56:17. > :56:24.who broke the law. We did our part to prevent as much as we could.
:56:25. > :56:27.Andrew Patrick, you will have heard the cries from restricted gun
:56:28. > :56:31.ownership, it never happens, is that the will of the American people? Is
:56:32. > :56:38.that the powerful gun lobby? Well, we have seen a lot of success at the
:56:39. > :56:42.State level over the past three years, multiple States have passed
:56:43. > :56:45.universal background checks as well as stronger laws. There is a hold up
:56:46. > :56:49.in Congress, but we believe that's not the way to judge this issue.
:56:50. > :56:53.Congress can barely pass transportation for farm Bills much
:56:54. > :56:56.less than issue like gun violence prevention. But more people were
:56:57. > :57:02.involved in this issue, more people are getting involved and that will,
:57:03. > :57:05.we believe, lead to a new leadership in Congress and stronger gun laws
:57:06. > :57:09.for this country to prevent these type of tragedies from happening.
:57:10. > :57:15.Stronger in what way? I think you can look at first of all the terror
:57:16. > :57:19.gap that exists. If you were on the no fly list or the terrorist watch
:57:20. > :57:25.list, you are still allowed to buy a gun. That is a travesty. Like you
:57:26. > :57:32.said this gentleman was interviewed by the FBI three times, I believe,
:57:33. > :57:36.still able to buy a gun. Also, the national instant background system
:57:37. > :57:40.has not been funded at its proper levels. We call on Congress to fully
:57:41. > :57:48.fund the system. So that the right information is in the background
:57:49. > :57:51.check system and we have dangerous individuals, they are taken into
:57:52. > :57:56.account when the background checks are run.
:57:57. > :58:01.Benjamin, really, really briefly. What questions do you ask someone
:58:02. > :58:13.who wants a z to buy a gun from you? Is this gun for you? I make them
:58:14. > :58:19.sign a waiver. If you intend harming someone, don't come back. We need to
:58:20. > :58:23.rewrite the gun laws. Florida had a statute in Florida says that you
:58:24. > :58:25.cannot take a firearm into a nightclub or a bar. Thank you,
:58:26. > :58:29.gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you for your company today.
:58:30. > :58:31.Have a good day.