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:00:07. > :00:09.Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

:00:10. > :00:15.Our top story today: The head of the English Football Association

:00:16. > :00:17.is seriously worried about the safety of England

:00:18. > :00:25.fans ahead of their next game in Euro 2016.

:00:26. > :00:31.Yes, Greg Dyke has said stewarding arrangements inside the stadium in

:00:32. > :00:35.Marseille on Saturday were unacceptable, and has rejected the

:00:36. > :00:38.notion that England fans were partly to blame for the trouble.

:00:39. > :00:41.Also on the programme: Vigils have been held in Orlando

:00:42. > :00:43.and across the world to remember the victims of America's deadliest

:00:44. > :00:55.We condemn the ideology of hate and death and destruction, and we call

:00:56. > :01:00.for all Muslim leaders and communities across this nation and

:01:01. > :01:02.across the world to stand up and to deal with this cancer and remove it

:01:03. > :01:07.once and for all. But what does Islam say

:01:08. > :01:09.about homosexuality, and does its stance make it harder for gay

:01:10. > :01:12.Muslims to accept themselves? A gay Muslim and an imam

:01:13. > :01:21.will give us their views. If there was a child in the home and

:01:22. > :01:25.the night before there has been called the police and there has been

:01:26. > :01:29.domestic abuse, I, as a teacher, will be told that have happened

:01:30. > :01:34.prior to 9am the next day, and what it means is that we, their teachers,

:01:35. > :01:36.who spend large parts of their time with us, we can do something to

:01:37. > :01:43.support them. And more exclusive access

:01:44. > :01:46.to a scheme in schools which helps children who've been exposed

:01:47. > :01:55.to domestic violence at home. Hello, welcome to the programme -

:01:56. > :01:58.we're live until 11am. Throughout the programme we'll bring

:01:59. > :02:02.you the latest breaking news and developing stories,

:02:03. > :02:04.including a story about a mum in Newcastle who's had

:02:05. > :02:06.17 children removed We'll discuss repeat

:02:07. > :02:15.removals before 11am. Do get in touch on all the stories

:02:16. > :02:18.we're talking about - If you text, you will be charged

:02:19. > :02:23.at the standard network rate. Our top story today: The chairman

:02:24. > :02:26.of the FA, Greg Dyke, has written to Uefa to say he has

:02:27. > :02:29.serious concerns about security England fans will gather in the city

:02:30. > :02:36.ahead of Thursday's match against Wales in the nearby small

:02:37. > :02:40.town of Lens. Russia play in Lille

:02:41. > :02:45.the night before. Uefa has warned both teams

:02:46. > :02:47.they could be expelled from the Euros if there's further

:02:48. > :02:59.violence by their fans. The issue is that Lens and Lille are

:03:00. > :03:04.pretty close together so Russian supporters will be mixing with

:03:05. > :03:07.English supporters? Yes, it is a potential flash point

:03:08. > :03:13.because the Russia game, as you said, is on the Wednesday night but

:03:14. > :03:17.Lille, lots of accommodation, all the bars will be open, compared with

:03:18. > :03:22.Lens, which is a smaller town where the bars are likely to be closed, so

:03:23. > :03:26.lots of England and Wales fans are expected to stay in Lille on

:03:27. > :03:30.Wednesday night. When we looked at accommodation for Lens for Thursday

:03:31. > :03:33.morning we could not get any because it is booked up, so Lille is

:03:34. > :03:37.potentially the scene where supporters from all four teams

:03:38. > :03:41.playing on Wednesday and Thursday will be, and you have to look at the

:03:42. > :03:45.station as potentially an area where there might be a problem. An advance

:03:46. > :03:50.team has gone ahead and made the journey from Lille to Lens and have

:03:51. > :03:55.reported back and said the situation is tricky because they will check

:03:56. > :03:57.all to get manually going onto the trains, trains from Lille to Lens

:03:58. > :04:13.are incredibly small so the supporters will be

:04:14. > :04:15.packed in close proximity for a decent length of journey before

:04:16. > :04:17.getting to the stadium, and potentially they will have been

:04:18. > :04:20.drinking in the bars of Lille that day already. One advantage is that

:04:21. > :04:22.the England game on Thursday is the early kick-off which potentially

:04:23. > :04:24.cuts down the number of drinking hours, and there is also the

:04:25. > :04:26.possibility that alcohol may be banned completely. But I think the

:04:27. > :04:31.authorities are looking closely at Wednesday in Lille and Thursday in

:04:32. > :04:36.Lens as potentially a problem. What is Greg Dyke thing into Uefa

:04:37. > :04:40.about this? Greg Dyke's T Uefa was interesting.

:04:41. > :04:45.He condemned the violence in the old port in Marseille, he said he didn't

:04:46. > :04:50.approve of the England fans who were part of that. He made no bones about

:04:51. > :04:54.that, frankly, but he went on to say, almost standing up for the

:04:55. > :04:56.England supporters who were in the stadium, making the distinction

:04:57. > :05:01.between what happened in the old port and what happened in the

:05:02. > :05:05.stadium. He said the segregation inside the stadium on Saturday was

:05:06. > :05:09.inadequate, the stewarding was not appropriate, and we have heard from

:05:10. > :05:14.Mark Robinson this morning, the BBC pundit, who was there, who said Uefa

:05:15. > :05:17.can manage Champions League and big European games by segregating the

:05:18. > :05:22.fans well. You might lose some seats but it has to happen, keeping the

:05:23. > :05:26.fans apart, making one set of fans leave the stadium while another is

:05:27. > :05:31.kept inside the stadium for 20 minutes after take-off. He makes the

:05:32. > :05:35.valid point, why are they not looking at doing that here? I think

:05:36. > :05:42.Greg Dyke's intervention at this point is an marker because he has to

:05:43. > :05:47.acknowledge a problem with the fans but also says that the security

:05:48. > :05:51.arrangement for the fans and the teams are not quite as good as the

:05:52. > :05:54.FA would like it to be. Sadly, for the moment, thank you.

:05:55. > :05:56.Joanna Gosling is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:05:57. > :06:02.Vigils and memorials have been held in Orlando,

:06:03. > :06:05.across the UK and around the world for the victims of Sunday's

:06:06. > :06:09.There are reports that the gunman visited the club several times,

:06:10. > :06:11.and authorities are still trying to understand his motives,

:06:12. > :06:13.and whether he was inspired purely by so-called Islamic State.

:06:14. > :06:15.President Obama will travel to Orlando on Thursday

:06:16. > :06:18.to meet the families and friends of those who died.

:06:19. > :06:25.This is a show of unity and strength, defiance

:06:26. > :06:29.in the face of terror and hate, as the community comes together

:06:30. > :06:35.There was support too from around the world.

:06:36. > :06:38.Thousands took to the streets of London in solidarity,

:06:39. > :06:44.as stories spread from those who survived.

:06:45. > :06:52.You hear what sounds like fireworks and balloons popping and you assume

:06:53. > :06:55.it is part of the show. And then you hear people start screaming. The

:06:56. > :07:00.sound doesn't stop. More details have emerged

:07:01. > :07:02.about the man at the centre 29-year-old Omar Mateen,

:07:03. > :07:05.a US citizen of Afghan descent. He called to declare allegiance

:07:06. > :07:08.to the so-called Islamic State, The FBI said there is no clear

:07:09. > :07:14.evidence he was directed They believe he may have been

:07:15. > :07:18.radicalised within the US, What he did was totally,

:07:19. > :07:24.totally wrong. Even though he's my son,

:07:25. > :07:27.I have to admit this I mean, it is terrorising the whole

:07:28. > :07:35.people, and I don't forgive him. The brutality of one man

:07:36. > :07:39.is difficult for many to comprehend. But age, sexuality, race,

:07:40. > :07:45.or religion, it does A message of hope, after one

:07:46. > :07:49.of the darkest days And we can speak to Laura

:07:50. > :08:04.live now from Orlando. As we were seeing there, a community

:08:05. > :08:08.coming together and president Obama is going to visit as well?

:08:09. > :08:12.Yes, we are expecting President Obama here on Thursday. A statement

:08:13. > :08:17.from the White House, we are not sure what the visit will entail but

:08:18. > :08:22.we understand it is expected he will speak with victims' families, the

:08:23. > :08:26.police and FBI to get an update on the operation here. We have been

:08:27. > :08:33.getting reports in the last few hours that the gunman, Omar Mateen,

:08:34. > :08:36.had visited the Pulse nightclub on previous occasions. These reports

:08:37. > :08:43.come from local newspapers who said they spoke to regulars at the club

:08:44. > :08:47.who recognised him. We don't know why he visited the club, was he

:08:48. > :08:51.scouting out a potential target or was he there for other reasons? We

:08:52. > :08:56.have had no comment so far from Orlando police or the FBI on this.

:08:57. > :09:02.We know the FBI is investigating whether or not he was scouting out

:09:03. > :09:06.other targets here in Orlando, including Disney World, but as you

:09:07. > :09:12.saw from the pictures, thousands of people gathered here in the last few

:09:13. > :09:14.hours, and just as dusk fell per bel told 49 times, one for each of the

:09:15. > :09:28.lives lost -- the Bell tolled. The French President,

:09:29. > :09:30.Francois Hollande, has described the killing of a senior police

:09:31. > :09:33.officer and his partner near Paris, The officer, who wasn't in uniform,

:09:34. > :09:36.was stabbed outside his home by a man who then barricaded himself

:09:37. > :09:39.into the house. A police raid found the bodies

:09:40. > :09:42.of a woman and that of the attacker. It's reported that the attacker

:09:43. > :09:44.claimed allegiance to With just over a week to go

:09:45. > :09:47.until the EU referendum, the Vote Leave campaign says it

:09:48. > :09:50.will maintain funding to universities, regions

:09:51. > :09:51.and organisations that currently receive money from

:09:52. > :09:53.the European Union The leading Conservative

:09:54. > :09:57.campaigners Boris Johnson and Michael Gove say the same money

:09:58. > :09:59.will still be found. The Remain side says the claims

:10:00. > :10:04.are "fantasy economics". Oscar Pistorius is back

:10:05. > :10:07.in court in Pretoria this morning for the second day

:10:08. > :10:09.of his sentencing hearing. The athlete was found guilty

:10:10. > :10:11.of murdering his girlfriend Yesterday a psychologist

:10:12. > :10:19.for the defence said Pistorius was a "broken man" suffering

:10:20. > :10:23.from "major depression", and was not The trial starts today

:10:24. > :10:35.of Led Zeppelin founders Robert Plant and Jimmy Page

:10:36. > :10:37.in a copyright row over The band's been accused of lifting

:10:38. > :10:41.the song's famous opening from an instrumental called Taurus

:10:42. > :10:43.by the American band Spirit, who they appeared alongside

:10:44. > :10:55.at their first concert back in 1968. I think the band actually was called

:10:56. > :10:57.Torres and the song was called Spirit, but there we go.

:10:58. > :11:00.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:11:01. > :11:02.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

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:11:07. > :11:13.Back to Sally in Paris for the sports headlines.

:11:14. > :11:15.It is a relief to talk about sport and not potential flash points here.

:11:16. > :11:17.Here in Paris yesterday Ireland against Sweden

:11:18. > :11:21.And it was an own goal that cost Martin O'Neill's side the win.

:11:22. > :11:23.Sweden didn't have a single shot on target.

:11:24. > :11:30.The atmosphere in Paris must have been just what the tournament

:11:31. > :11:35.And the Republic of Ireland's performance got the seal of approval

:11:36. > :11:38.The way the Irish set about Sweden was impressive.

:11:39. > :11:41.The only thing missing from the first half, a goal.

:11:42. > :11:52.High tempo from Martin O'Neill's side created plenty of high drama.

:11:53. > :11:56.Jeff Hendrick could, but only with the crossbar.

:11:57. > :11:58.The luck of the Swedish finally ran out in the second half.

:11:59. > :12:02.Great work from Everton's Seamus Coleman.

:12:03. > :12:11.He picked up Wes Hoolahan of Norwich, no stopping this one.

:12:12. > :12:14.Ireland had kept Sweden's star man quiet for most of the match,

:12:15. > :12:16.but it was Zlatan Ibrahimovic's cross which turned

:12:17. > :12:22.The unfortunate Irishman Sweden had to thank next was Ciaran Clark.

:12:23. > :12:25.His manager naturally had mixed feelings about the 1-1 draw.

:12:26. > :12:27.Massive disappointment we didn't take three points.

:12:28. > :12:34.Eventually things like that become costly.

:12:35. > :12:38.They will need to be terrific again against Belgium

:12:39. > :12:44.Italy are in charge in Group E after a 2-0 win over Belgium.

:12:45. > :12:50.This late goal from Southampton striker Graziano Pelle

:12:51. > :12:59.Defending champions Spain are up and running.

:13:00. > :13:01.Despite being totally dominant against the Czech Republic

:13:02. > :13:04.they could only muster one goal in Touluse.

:13:05. > :13:12.One other line of football news and Chinese businessman Dr Tony Xia

:13:13. > :13:14.has completed his ?76 million takeover of Championship

:13:15. > :13:25.England's cricketers were frustrated by the weather as rain forced a draw

:13:26. > :13:29.After a delayed start, they managed only one of the ten

:13:30. > :13:32.wickets they needed for a win before the heavens opened again.

:13:33. > :13:40.Rain also put paid to some tennis yesterday but Heather Watson made

:13:41. > :13:46.the second round of the Birmingham open. And these are the scenes at

:13:47. > :13:49.Queens. Andy Murray faces Nicolas Mahut later.

:13:50. > :13:52.Now how about this for a practice partner?

:13:53. > :13:54.Andy Murray warmed up for Queens with a knockabout

:13:55. > :14:02.And his dad David has praised him as a role model.

:14:03. > :14:08.When you look at role models, you want them to be passionate about

:14:09. > :14:14.their sport, passionate about what they do. Play hard all the time, and

:14:15. > :14:17.Andy is one of those players. It is great for any junket to have great

:14:18. > :14:22.role models in sport and Andy is definitely one of those for many

:14:23. > :14:27.kids around the world. You have set the bar high, he has practised with

:14:28. > :14:31.Andy Murray so you have two up your game, David! I was going to play

:14:32. > :14:34.with him tomorrow morning but I don't I will now!

:14:35. > :14:36.I'm sure he will be ready good at tennis just like everything else!

:14:37. > :14:39.Back to you, Victoria. What happens to children who are

:14:40. > :14:42.exposed to domestic abuse at home? It's thought that as many as one

:14:43. > :14:46.in five children are affected by it and in many instances they go

:14:47. > :14:48.to school the next day This programme has been given

:14:49. > :14:52.exclusive access to one scheme The plan is based on a simple idea,

:14:53. > :14:58.that if the police are called to a domestic violence incident

:14:59. > :15:01.and there's a child there, the officers will tell that child's

:15:02. > :15:05.school by 9am the next day. The school can then offer

:15:06. > :15:07.them specific help. It's called Operation Encompass,

:15:08. > :15:11.and it's now being run in schools with the help of 12

:15:12. > :15:14.police forces in the UK. Our reporter Rebecca Wilcox has been

:15:15. > :15:21.to find out more. I just heard rustling, I turned

:15:22. > :15:31.around and I got severely beaten up. I don't remember

:15:32. > :15:36.anything for three days. I had lumps on the back of my head

:15:37. > :15:39.like I have never felt or seen, blood in my hair,

:15:40. > :15:45.on my ear, it was awful. Out of all the punches and bruising

:15:46. > :15:52.and the mental torture to me, that is the worst part,

:15:53. > :15:57.children seeing was really hard, hard for a parent and,

:15:58. > :16:00.more importantly, hard He would push me, shove me,

:16:01. > :16:14.there have been occasions In England and Wales a quarter

:16:15. > :16:30.of a million women experience Jane, not her real name,

:16:31. > :16:34.is one of them, and, like many Locking me out of my

:16:35. > :16:37.house with my children. I could not go back to the house

:16:38. > :16:41.to get my stuff, because he Her kids make up just three

:16:42. > :16:48.of the estimated million children in the UK who have been

:16:49. > :16:59.affected by domestic abuse. Lis Carney-Howarth is

:17:00. > :17:01.the headteacher of an infant She was frustrated by the lack

:17:02. > :17:07.of help given to kids She turned to her husband David,

:17:08. > :17:12.he was then a police sergeant who regularly

:17:13. > :17:14.answered domestic-violence I came home from work one

:17:15. > :17:20.day absolutely furious, because in school I'd

:17:21. > :17:25.had a meeting with my educational-welfare officer,

:17:26. > :17:27.and she told me about a case of domestic abuse that had happened

:17:28. > :17:38.to one of my children five weeks five months earlier,

:17:39. > :17:40.and I could pinpoint It had changed from being

:17:41. > :17:44.a perfectly happy little boy in school to being a child who came

:17:45. > :17:47.in not wanting to leave the classroom, go to assembly,

:17:48. > :17:50.hiding under tables, running out I came home and David

:17:51. > :17:55.was in our sitting room and I suspect I was angry with him

:17:56. > :17:59.and said to him that this was so ridiculous,

:18:00. > :18:02.because the police have been called If I had been told,

:18:03. > :18:07.I might have been able You off-load, and she said,

:18:08. > :18:17."This has happened in school today, I thought, I know that

:18:18. > :18:22.information is there, but it is not something

:18:23. > :18:25.I have had to think about, I thought, it is a simple

:18:26. > :18:31.thing to do, to say, They spent all of their spare time

:18:32. > :18:45.when not tending to their picks trying to find a way to help kids

:18:46. > :18:47.who have witnessed Eventually they came up

:18:48. > :18:51.with a new initiative called Operation Encompass,

:18:52. > :18:56.and they pushed to get it set up in a handful of schools in Plymouth

:18:57. > :18:58.and the surrounding area. If there is a child in a home

:18:59. > :19:04.and the night before there has been a call to the police and there has

:19:05. > :19:06.been domestic abuse, I will be told that has happened

:19:07. > :19:11.prior to 9am the next school day. It means that the teachers,

:19:12. > :19:14.who will spend a large part of time with them,

:19:15. > :19:19.can support them. We can have school uniform ready,

:19:20. > :19:23.so they don't feel different, if they have not had breakfast,

:19:24. > :19:28.we can make sure they have some. We can sit down with them and say

:19:29. > :19:32.that we know something happened last night, and if they want

:19:33. > :19:35.to talk to us, they can. Because we know this is a home

:19:36. > :19:38.where there is domestic abuse, we would always have special

:19:39. > :19:44.attention on those children. That is where Jane

:19:45. > :19:50.and her son come in. We're calling him Alex,

:19:51. > :19:52.he was just five when the scheme This is the first time the mother

:19:53. > :19:57.of a child who has been on the scheme has

:19:58. > :19:59.spoken to the media. We wanted to speak to him as well,

:20:00. > :20:02.but understandably Jane was worried So she told me what

:20:03. > :20:07.they had been through. He had seen me getting my hair

:20:08. > :20:12.pulled, to the point where We went out for a while,

:20:13. > :20:21.and as we came back he locked all of the doors and we could not

:20:22. > :20:28.get back into the house. There was shouting and screaming,

:20:29. > :20:36.lots of shouting and screaming. Lis remembers it well,

:20:37. > :20:43.it was the first call she received. I got the call to say there had been

:20:44. > :20:46.an incident the night before, I spoke to his reception class

:20:47. > :20:55.teacher and fed her for it. When he arrived at school,

:20:56. > :20:58.Alex brought with him a teddy bear. Normally, when a child brings one

:20:59. > :21:01.in, we would say, "Is Mummy taking the teddy bear home or shall we put

:21:02. > :21:07.it somewhere safe in the classroom?" Because we knew what had happened,

:21:08. > :21:11.his class teacher did not do that, and she let him bring

:21:12. > :21:14.it into school. All we did was not ask

:21:15. > :21:22.that the teddy bear go home and not For us, that was nothing,

:21:23. > :21:30.but to that little boy That really helped him and it

:21:31. > :21:37.helped me to stay strong, because I knew I was not just

:21:38. > :21:42.sending my boy to school to be worrying about what is going

:21:43. > :21:44.on at home, feeling frightened, having nobody to talk to,

:21:45. > :21:49.because the headteacher and his They really nursed him and gave him

:21:50. > :21:57.all of the attention he needed, He came out of school that day much

:21:58. > :22:04.brighter than when he went in, and it makes my hair

:22:05. > :22:12.stand up, it really does. I did not want to send my baby

:22:13. > :22:16.to school that day. That was a lot of weight

:22:17. > :22:22.taken off my shoulders. So I could concentrate on trying

:22:23. > :22:28.to clear up the mess and then think about my next move to get away

:22:29. > :22:32.from this situation. Jane thought things were getting

:22:33. > :22:37.better, but worse was yet to come. It was about 11:30pm,

:22:38. > :22:42.maybe 12am by the time you have done the cleaning,

:22:43. > :22:48.I have to look to doors, and when I got to the second

:22:49. > :22:53.door, I heard rustling. I turned around, I got

:22:54. > :22:59.severely beaten up. I don't remember

:23:00. > :23:04.anything for three days. My lips were cut, all over my head,

:23:05. > :23:12.lumps on the back of my head that I have never felt or seem,

:23:13. > :23:18.I could not brush my hair, I felt like my hand was there,

:23:19. > :23:24.there was blood in my head, I thought I would never get out

:23:25. > :23:29.of this, I thought, this is it, But there is light at

:23:30. > :23:36.the end of the tunnel. Alex is in a lovely village

:23:37. > :23:47.school now, he loves it. There is light at the end

:23:48. > :24:05.of the tunnel. From these small beginnings,

:24:06. > :24:07.Operation Encompass has been rolled out in at least 12 other police

:24:08. > :24:11.forces, including Merseyside, Everybody thinks it is

:24:12. > :24:18.already being done. Unless you are in the police

:24:19. > :24:23.or education, everybody else automatically shims this

:24:24. > :24:29.information is already shared. Now, what we are trying to do

:24:30. > :24:32.is make sure that every police force Lots of them are doing this already,

:24:33. > :24:39.but lots is not enough. It should be in every force,

:24:40. > :24:42.every school, every child. We want more momentum,

:24:43. > :24:47.somebody to take control, maybe from Government, and say,

:24:48. > :24:50.as a stand-alone project, Even though Jane has moved on,

:24:51. > :24:56.she is still grateful for the support her youngest

:24:57. > :25:01.received from Operation Encompass. Before the school got involved,

:25:02. > :25:03.she told me Alex had started That is so out of character,

:25:04. > :25:12.he has always been I could see it with my own eyes,

:25:13. > :25:20.him changing, with what was going I thought it was

:25:21. > :25:24.going to damage him. As soon as he became part

:25:25. > :25:26.of the Operation Encompass, the bad behaviour stopped,

:25:27. > :25:32.he stopped spitting and swearing. He was getting back

:25:33. > :25:34.to the lovely little boy. I was very lucky to have Lis

:25:35. > :25:38.and be part of the school, and Alex could be loved and nurtured

:25:39. > :25:43.and helped in every If he would not have had that help

:25:44. > :25:50.when he was five, it makes me feel sick to the stomach to think

:25:51. > :26:14.what he might be like now. Let's hear from the Police and Crime

:26:15. > :26:15.Commissioner from Northumbria, one of the areas where the scheme is

:26:16. > :26:25.run. Why did you want this? It seems like

:26:26. > :26:29.an obvious idea. 80% of families with children, the children are

:26:30. > :26:34.either there in the room or witnessing it from their bedroom

:26:35. > :26:38.with this domestic abuse happens. Lots of children are affected. They

:26:39. > :26:45.go to school, perhaps they do not have uniform or have had breakfast,

:26:46. > :26:49.they must be in danger of being told off, but they need support. Why

:26:50. > :26:53.don't the police pass on the information to a key adult so that

:26:54. > :27:01.extra care can be given to the child to try to normalise it? The child is

:27:02. > :27:04.likely to be badly affected by what has happened, anxiety, scared,

:27:05. > :27:09.traumatised, and that will impede their learning. The school needs to

:27:10. > :27:15.normalise it, agreed the child, take more care of them, so they don't

:27:16. > :27:21.lose out. How is it working? There are a number of local authorities.

:27:22. > :27:27.We started it in one of the six, it took a long time, because it is new.

:27:28. > :27:31.And schools are quite fragmented, academies, free schools and so on.

:27:32. > :27:37.We had to go to each school, it took a year. But it went down so well,

:27:38. > :27:43.including a really good Ofsted of children services in Gateshead that

:27:44. > :27:48.said, though it has not yet been evaluated, it is really promising.

:27:49. > :27:52.What happened then was some of the Gateshead teachers helped us move it

:27:53. > :27:58.into the other local authorities. It is now in five out of the six, with

:27:59. > :28:03.the sixth to come. How many children have been helped in your area? In

:28:04. > :28:10.the first year in Gateshead, 1500 children were helped. The likelihood

:28:11. > :28:16.is it is a big thing. Similar stories to those that Rebecca was

:28:17. > :28:20.bringing us on the film, children who might turn up with their teddy

:28:21. > :28:25.bear because it is comfortable? Yes, one boy came with a doll of some

:28:26. > :28:29.kind, normally that would not be allowed, just because the police had

:28:30. > :28:34.told the school he was allowed to keep it, it was a comfort to him.

:28:35. > :28:37.Teachers would say it is just a smile and a greeting when the child

:28:38. > :28:41.comes through, it makes them realise their whole world has not just been

:28:42. > :28:48.fractured and ruined, there is something stable. Peter is

:28:49. > :28:51.interested, he says, it sounds like a logical idea, I wonder if it has

:28:52. > :28:56.occurred to teachers that telling the child they know could be

:28:57. > :29:02.devastating to the child. I am not sure the teachers would go that far,

:29:03. > :29:08.do they? I don't think so. You need to ask a teacher about that, but my

:29:09. > :29:12.guess is they give a bit of extra help and support. Depends how the

:29:13. > :29:16.child reacts, I would guess. Is there any reason why it could not be

:29:17. > :29:22.rolled out across all of England and Wales? It should be. My suggestion

:29:23. > :29:28.to the great folk in your film who organised it, we have got an

:29:29. > :29:31.association of Police and Crime Commissioners, they could come to

:29:32. > :29:35.that, I could sponsor them to do that, they could talk to all 40

:29:36. > :29:39.commissioners, described how straightforward and obvious it is,

:29:40. > :29:43.and I would be very surprised if they did not all take it on. It is

:29:44. > :29:47.just a relatively new idea that folk have not realised is there and does

:29:48. > :29:53.unmitigated good. And if you want to watch -

:29:54. > :29:57.or share - that full film you can find it

:29:58. > :30:09.on our programme page, Unconfirmed reports that the man

:30:10. > :30:14.responsible for killing 49 gay people in that nightclub in Orlando

:30:15. > :30:20.had previously visited the club as a customer. And used gay dating apps.

:30:21. > :30:30.We will look at what Muslims say about homosexuality and whether it

:30:31. > :30:34.makes it harder for gamers limbs to accept themselves.

:30:35. > :30:39.And a mum in her 40s has 17 children taken into care.

:30:40. > :30:48.The. With before 11am. -- duffle story.

:30:49. > :30:59.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:31:00. > :31:03.The Chairman of the FA, Greg Dyke, has written to European

:31:04. > :31:05.football's governing body, Uefa, to express 'serious

:31:06. > :31:06.concern' about security arrangements in Lille,

:31:07. > :31:09.where England and Russia fans will gather for this

:31:10. > :31:12.Both sets of supporters clashed in Marseilles at the weekend.

:31:13. > :31:14.Both teams have been warned they could be expelled

:31:15. > :31:17.from the Euros if their supporters are involved in more violence.

:31:18. > :31:19.The FA chairman has rejected a suggestion that England fans

:31:20. > :31:21.were at fault for scenes inside the stadium

:31:22. > :31:24.Oscar Pistorius is back in court in Pretoria this

:31:25. > :31:26.morning for the second day of his sentencing hearing.

:31:27. > :31:29.The athlete was found guilty of murdering his girlfriend

:31:30. > :31:35.Yesterday a psychologist for the defence said Pistorius

:31:36. > :31:37.was a "broken man" suffering from "major depression", and was not

:31:38. > :31:46.Reeva Steenkamp father is currently giving evidence and we can hear some

:31:47. > :31:57.of it. It is very difficult to explain when

:31:58. > :32:07.you talk about the incident, are you talking about what happened that

:32:08. > :32:25.day? Yes. I don't wish that on any human being. Finding out what

:32:26. > :32:34.happened, it devastated us. So many things since then have happened, we

:32:35. > :32:43.have gone to doctors and surgeons which I still have to go to pour my

:32:44. > :32:52.heart, and everything like that. I just don't wish that on anybody in

:32:53. > :32:57.this whole world. Let us put the family into perspective. You have a

:32:58. > :33:04.son from a previous marriage? I have a son from a previous garage, Adam,

:33:05. > :33:09.he is in England. How old is he? He has just turned 40 years old. June

:33:10. > :33:19.has a daughter from a previous marriage, Simone. How old is she?

:33:20. > :33:33.Simone is 50. Do you mind if I ask your age? I'm 73 years old. Kim gave

:33:34. > :33:41.evidence and she indicated that you lived in Cape Town and then moved?

:33:42. > :33:57.That is correct, I think the year 1991. In Port Elizabeth, was Reeva

:33:58. > :34:03.there as a minor child? She was the only minor child that lived there

:34:04. > :34:11.with us. We will view the day of the incident in more detail, but you

:34:12. > :34:15.explained to me one of the consequences of what happened is

:34:16. > :34:33.that your landlord took certain steps? Yes. We were, at that time,

:34:34. > :34:45.in financial difficulty, and with Reeva's passing the landlady had

:34:46. > :34:55.found out that I was virtually bankrupt, and within two weeks after

:34:56. > :34:59.Reeva's death, she gave us notice on the house. We had never been behind

:35:00. > :35:02.in anything but she gave us notice because of what she read in the

:35:03. > :35:10.newspapers. We could have stayed on but we decided it was so distasteful

:35:11. > :35:22.of her to do something like that that we decided to reallocate

:35:23. > :35:31.immediately. Mr Steenkamp, Kim also gave evidence that Reeva indicated

:35:32. > :35:44.that she one day wanted to look after you, do you know that? Yes, I

:35:45. > :35:49.do know about that. Reeva left me to come up to Johannesburg thinking

:35:50. > :35:56.that things would move faster here for her, Port Elizabeth commie sorry

:35:57. > :36:01.Port Elizabeth and is, it is a little bit further behind as far as

:36:02. > :36:05.things like modelling are concerned, so she decided to come here, go

:36:06. > :36:11.through the whole cycle of her modelling career, and there

:36:12. > :36:20.afterwards to go back into law and one day open up her own thing, and

:36:21. > :36:28.she had always said when that time comes that she would look after June

:36:29. > :36:36.and myself. Were you proud of her having completed her studies? Very

:36:37. > :36:49.proud of Reeva, yes. She got bursaries and distinctions, and she

:36:50. > :36:53.also helped herself by going through varsity, we had taken out certain

:36:54. > :36:58.insurers is and that for her to go through varsity and of course, yes,

:36:59. > :37:07.we were completely and utterly proud of her, yes. As far as looking after

:37:08. > :37:11.you is concerned, you have indicated that, at that time, financially you

:37:12. > :37:19.were in a difficult time but something interesting happened on

:37:20. > :37:32.the 13th? Yes, just before the 13th, Reeva phoned home mum and said, I'm

:37:33. > :37:37.on Tropic, you must watch. June said, our TV is not working so we

:37:38. > :37:41.will have to do something about it. She said, don't worry, I will pay

:37:42. > :37:53.for that for you straightaway but just make sure that you watch the

:37:54. > :38:00.episode of Tropica. So she paid for your television on the 13th of

:38:01. > :38:03.February? That's right. Then... Unfortunately I have to take you

:38:04. > :38:16.back to the day of the murder. Where were you? I was at work. When I

:38:17. > :38:28.trained the horses are used to get to work at 5:30am, 6am. I got a

:38:29. > :38:38.phone call from June. I couldn't really understand what she was so

:38:39. > :38:42.upset about, screaming and shouting. At first I thought most probably one

:38:43. > :38:48.of our animals had got killed. She said, come home immediately, come

:38:49. > :38:53.home. I dropped everything and on my way home I tried to fathom at what

:38:54. > :38:59.she tried to tell me, then I realised that she had mentioned

:39:00. > :39:03.Reeva. She said, come home immediately, Reeva's name was there,

:39:04. > :39:07.and that was when I started to panic. Driving home I realised more

:39:08. > :39:18.and more, Reeva has been killed, it hit me then. It is like it happened

:39:19. > :39:30.yesterday. That is how I first heard about it. When you got home?

:39:31. > :39:36.Complete chaos. Thank God we had a friend of ours staying at the house.

:39:37. > :39:47.If he wasn't there, a friend of mine, Dave Cox, he was trying to

:39:48. > :39:52.comfort June. And when we were there, I can't go into the whole

:39:53. > :40:03.thing and tell you exactly how we felt. And you wanted to see somebody

:40:04. > :40:09.immediately, who? I phoned my brother immediately in Cape Town. I

:40:10. > :40:11.said, Mike, get up here in immediately, this has happened.

:40:12. > :40:16.Within a couple of hours he had got on a plane and he was there with me.

:40:17. > :40:28.Why did you want to see your brother? I confide so much more in

:40:29. > :40:31.my brother. I'm sure with Mr Pistorius and his brother, he would

:40:32. > :40:35.confide, that is how I would confided my brother and he was the

:40:36. > :40:43.first one I thought of. If you could put it into perspective, your

:40:44. > :40:53.brother is the father of Kim? My brother is the father of Kim. When

:40:54. > :40:58.you think back, during consultation you told me of what happened that

:40:59. > :41:07.night in that house, what do you think, in the house of Mr Pistorius

:41:08. > :41:19.were Reeva was murdered? I personally think that there was an

:41:20. > :41:26.argument. I'm going to stop you, my lady, allow me to stop the witness.

:41:27. > :41:34.Let's talk about what you think, in consultation you told me how you

:41:35. > :41:44.think Reeva felt. What she must have gone through in those split-second

:41:45. > :41:49.'s. -- split-seconds. She must have been in so much fear and pain, that

:41:50. > :41:55.is what I think Bob a time, I visualise that I can see it myself

:41:56. > :42:02.-- that is what I think of all the time. It must have been absolutely

:42:03. > :42:13.awful. You, because of that, also try to hurt yourself? Yes. Can you

:42:14. > :42:18.tell the court about that? At times I thought the pain that Reeva went

:42:19. > :42:23.through, I used to just... I don't know whether I was going mental or

:42:24. > :42:32.whatever but are used to take my fist against the wall, my knuckles,

:42:33. > :42:36.my injured from my diabetes, are used to shove it into my stomach to

:42:37. > :42:51.see if I could feel the same type of pain.

:42:52. > :43:01.Are you OK to continue? As far as your health is concerned, you said

:43:02. > :43:11.you had strokes shortly after the incident ) raised -- had a stroke

:43:12. > :43:15.shortly after the incident? You have also consulted doctors about your

:43:16. > :43:23.heart? I went to the doctor, they did tests on me, just recently I had

:43:24. > :43:35.tests. I have to go into hospital in August for my valves in my heart.

:43:36. > :43:47.I have held back with everything now, I must go for a biopsy as well.

:43:48. > :43:51.You indicated to me that Reeva's habit of phoning up her parents was

:43:52. > :43:55.interesting, could you explain that to the court? It was virtually a

:43:56. > :44:02.habit that Reeva would phone her mother on Saturdays, not talk to me,

:44:03. > :44:06.but on the Sunday would phone me, her father, and talk to me about

:44:07. > :44:12.different things that she would talk to June about, but that is how it

:44:13. > :44:20.went most times it was the Saturday and the Sunday. So she would phone

:44:21. > :44:30.you on the Sunday and only talk to you? And then talk to me. And that

:44:31. > :44:33.happened every week? Virtually every week, it would be the odd weekend

:44:34. > :44:40.that was missed but virtually every weekend, yes. You have also

:44:41. > :44:49.indicated to me that, although every day is difficult, Christmases and

:44:50. > :44:55.birthdays are more difficult, why? Well, Reeva is not there with us.

:44:56. > :45:01.She is there with us in spirit, but, like at Christmas time, with the

:45:02. > :45:09.family, we would sit down and one chair would be there for Reeva, and

:45:10. > :45:15.that is how we... I say celebrated Christmas, that is how we had our

:45:16. > :45:19.Christmas. Just give a bit more details, the last Christmas you went

:45:20. > :45:25.down to Cape Town to your brother's? I went to my brother's. And you

:45:26. > :45:35.indicated at the table there was a setting and a chair? A setting and a

:45:36. > :45:41.chair therefore reefer, and on her birthdays the family would have a

:45:42. > :45:46.celebration for her, not in our house, my family photographed with

:45:47. > :45:57.her and her place there as well, yes.

:45:58. > :46:06.The relationship between Reeva and the accused, did you know about

:46:07. > :46:12.that? I did not, no. Did she never tell you? I don't think the time was

:46:13. > :46:15.right for her to tell me, otherwise she would have told me. But I did

:46:16. > :46:23.know that there was a relationship. Have you had contact with the

:46:24. > :46:44.accused on this matter? No contact. But I believe that through the

:46:45. > :46:46.lawyers there was something. But we declined getting together and having

:46:47. > :47:01.a talk. We talked about the amount of money

:47:02. > :47:11.you received every month after Reeva's death. Yes.

:47:12. > :47:26.It was discussed between the defence lawyer and our lawyers. They

:47:27. > :47:31.arranged that amongst themselves. He approached us and told us about it.

:47:32. > :47:39.We did not like the idea, but we were in dire straits. I said, do

:47:40. > :47:48.what you must do, and he said, don't worry, this will be private and

:47:49. > :47:51.confidential, so I said, I it up to up to you to do what you must do for

:47:52. > :48:06.us. Who requested it should be private and confidential? I heard it

:48:07. > :48:10.was Barry, or his lawyer, that requested that it stays private and

:48:11. > :48:19.confidential. Were you surprised when it was mentioned? I was

:48:20. > :48:33.disgusted. I was disgusted when it came out. That something like that

:48:34. > :48:38.could have been brought up. And when we were offered 360, 350,000 rand,

:48:39. > :48:43.we declined it, our lawyer said, you must take the money, we said, we

:48:44. > :48:51.don't want the money after what was brought up in court. I have learned

:48:52. > :48:55.to live with that, it makes no difference, it is my daughter that

:48:56. > :49:04.has gone, it is not the money or anything like that.

:49:05. > :49:14.Have you seen any of the photographs of your daughter's --? The only

:49:15. > :49:20.photo I have seen was the photograph that you produced here in court.

:49:21. > :49:30.That is the only one I have seen. But I can imagine what it was like.

:49:31. > :49:35.I want to ask the court now, a lot of people will disagree with me, and

:49:36. > :49:43.think that I am callous or whatever it is, but what I would like the

:49:44. > :49:51.world to see the wounds inflicted on to Reeva and the pain that she must

:49:52. > :50:01.have gone through so that the world can see this and distract people who

:50:02. > :50:05.are thinking of that type of deed to stop them in future. That is why I

:50:06. > :50:14.ask if something like that could be shown to everybody.

:50:15. > :50:26.It will help for the future, I don't know, that this is the way I feel.

:50:27. > :50:35.Apart from that one photograph that was shown in court, you have not

:50:36. > :50:49.seen any of the others? No. Your wife June, how is she doing? Through

:50:50. > :50:53.the media and a lot of people, they have said she is the stonefaced

:50:54. > :50:59.person, but I know that she greets like I do all the time. She is a bit

:51:00. > :51:04.stronger, but she greets, I hear her at night, I hear her cry, I hear her

:51:05. > :51:30.talking to Reeva. Thank you, I have nothing further.

:51:31. > :51:36.Truly searing testimony from the father of Reeva Steenkamp, she was

:51:37. > :51:40.murdered by Oscar Pistorius, he is back in court this week, waiting to

:51:41. > :51:46.hear what his punishment will be for killing his girlfriend. We are

:51:47. > :51:49.hearing his testimony for the first time, because he was not well enough

:51:50. > :51:55.to attend the original trial of Oscar Pistorius. Very upsetting and

:51:56. > :51:59.moving, incredibly poignant, especially towards the end, where he

:52:00. > :52:03.was expressing his desire that images of his dead daughter should

:52:04. > :52:08.be shown publicly to stop others killing other human beings,

:52:09. > :52:15.effectively. He revealed in the last minute or so his wife June, Reeva's

:52:16. > :52:17.mother, still talks to her daughter. We will continue to monitor the

:52:18. > :52:21.testimony and bring you more later. Vigils have been held in Orlando

:52:22. > :52:27.and around the world for the victims of Sunday's deadly gun attack

:52:28. > :52:29.on a gay nightclub, which left 49 US authorities say gunman

:52:30. > :52:34.Omar Mateen pledged allegiance to so-called Islamic State shortly

:52:35. > :52:38.before the attack, though the FBI say there was no clear co-ordination

:52:39. > :52:43.with them before the attack. It's also being reported that

:52:44. > :52:46.Omar Mateen had previously visited the Pulse bar as a customer and used

:52:47. > :52:52.gay dating apps. A Muslim cleric told those attending

:52:53. > :52:56.the Orlando event that Muslims stood united with them against

:52:57. > :52:59."the ideology of hatred, We cannot believe that someone

:53:00. > :53:11.who claims my peaceful faith has brought a massacre,

:53:12. > :53:15.an atrocity to our city, We condemn this act of terrorism

:53:16. > :53:24.and all the acts of terrorism that are done in the name of Islam,

:53:25. > :53:31.or any faith, for that matter. We condemn in the

:53:32. > :53:32.strongest terms... We condemn the ideology of hate

:53:33. > :53:43.and death and destruction, and we call for all Muslim leaders

:53:44. > :53:50.and communities across this nation and across the world to stand up

:53:51. > :53:55.and to deal with this cancer Most Muslim reaction from around

:53:56. > :54:02.the world has echoed those thoughts But what does Islam say

:54:03. > :54:07.about homosexuality and does its stance make it harder for gay

:54:08. > :54:12.muslims to accept themselves? We can talk now to Asif Quraishi,

:54:13. > :54:15.a gay Muslim who is also And Ajmal Masroor, an imam

:54:16. > :54:21.who abhors the weekend's events but says there will always be

:54:22. > :54:34.a difference of opinion You identify as gay and Muslim,

:54:35. > :54:41.clearly be too can live in harmony? Definitely. When I came out, the

:54:42. > :54:47.first question was asked, how can you be gay and Muslim? I was taken

:54:48. > :54:52.to my Imam. There were all sorts of things put on the table, around

:54:53. > :54:56.celibacy or marriage, but I said, no, you can do both. I am in a

:54:57. > :55:03.marriage to my partner, who is also a Muslim. I believe you can be both

:55:04. > :55:13.and ultimately Allah will have the final say. What is your attitude to

:55:14. > :55:19.him? We are sidestepping the issue, what happened in Orlando. The guy

:55:20. > :55:24.who murdered, he himself was a closet Muslim, or a gay himself,

:55:25. > :55:31.battling with his sexuality or something. We don't know yet, but it

:55:32. > :55:36.is in question. Those say they have seen him in the club, found him

:55:37. > :55:43.drunk, he had been thrown out because of his bad behaviour. He was

:55:44. > :55:46.not a practising Muslim, his father and wife said, he regularly eat up

:55:47. > :55:54.his wife. The discussion should not be about Islam and sexuality in this

:55:55. > :55:59.incident. 49 lives have been lost. It has come from hatred, something

:56:00. > :56:04.happened. Why does it happen? We need to be stronger against it. I

:56:05. > :56:14.find it interesting that many Muslims fail to recognise two

:56:15. > :56:17.fundamental concepts, justice. Your own love and self-interest should

:56:18. > :56:23.not deter you from justice. What has happened now is injustice. In its

:56:24. > :56:29.worst possible form, and we have to can -- condemned that. What is your

:56:30. > :56:35.attitude to somebody who is gay and Muslim? It is between him and his

:56:36. > :56:41.God. People have spoken to me about the same issue what should I do? I

:56:42. > :56:47.say, it is your journey. You do not condemn all hate that person? Why

:56:48. > :56:52.would I have to? I am giving you a rhetorical response. It is not my

:56:53. > :56:56.job to condemn people. My job is to be available, to help people in

:56:57. > :57:01.their spiritual journey, with their questions and dilemmas. You will

:57:02. > :57:08.note this, this is a quote from the Koran, and as for the two of you men

:57:09. > :57:13.who are guilty of lewdness, punish them both, and if they repent and

:57:14. > :57:21.improve, let them be. How open to interpretation is that? There is an

:57:22. > :57:25.issue. If I submit to God, if I accept God is my ultimate authority

:57:26. > :57:33.for everything, and if the Koran is the source of my inspiration, I take

:57:34. > :57:39.God's word entirely, that is made... I always accept what God says. I am

:57:40. > :57:46.not selective. I know in Islam there are many things Islam clearly says

:57:47. > :57:50.are not acceptable, one of them is sex outside marriage, homosexuality,

:57:51. > :57:56.and so on. I accept them wholeheartedly, I do not question

:57:57. > :58:01.God. I am asking how open to interpretation it is. You were

:58:02. > :58:07.emphatic it is act of homosexuality, lewdness and what does that mean? It

:58:08. > :58:15.is open to interpretation. It is not black-and-white. It is all down to

:58:16. > :58:20.interpretation. What is happening in Orlando, it is a homophobic attack,

:58:21. > :58:23.a terrorist attack. At the heart of it, if reports are to be believed

:58:24. > :58:31.that he was battling with internalised homophobia, where has

:58:32. > :58:34.that stemmed from? It has stemmed from his cultural and religious

:58:35. > :58:40.background. This is the underlying theme. Yes, what has happened is a

:58:41. > :58:45.total tragedy, I am not condoning what he has done, but what needs to

:58:46. > :58:52.be looked at... You are condemning it but not condoning it? Yes, but

:58:53. > :58:58.what needs to be looked at is if he was battling with internalised

:58:59. > :59:06.homophobia, when I went to my mum, I was told to marry a woman, because

:59:07. > :59:12.that was the solution. When you are a Muslim, a gay muscle, and the

:59:13. > :59:16.think you are seeing is either, marry a woman, remain celibate or

:59:17. > :59:22.commit suicide, because when you are seeing people being thrown off a

:59:23. > :59:30.mountain, from where he is, maybe he felt the only way to purify himself

:59:31. > :59:33.was... I wonder if there is a possibility of an evolution of that

:59:34. > :59:40.quote from the Koran in the way we have seen Catholicism involve, if

:59:41. > :59:45.that is the right word, the Pope say, if you are gay, who am I to

:59:46. > :59:50.judge? The Church of England accepting gay people as long as they

:59:51. > :59:56.don't engage in actual sex. Is there the possibility of Islam evolving?

:59:57. > :00:02.The understanding has to be clear. The solution from his Imam was not

:00:03. > :00:06.for him. None of them are a solution. This does not seem like

:00:07. > :00:13.somebody who has actually helped him. I say simply, Islam has some

:00:14. > :00:17.irreconcilable differences with the proposed way of life we have in this

:00:18. > :00:21.country, or in the West at the moment. This is one of them, but we

:00:22. > :00:26.can learn to manage and live civilly and coexist. Just because I

:00:27. > :00:31.disagree, I don't have the right to judge you or to take your life or to

:00:32. > :00:37.threaten you. I cannot does, Nate. These are Islamic intervals. Those

:00:38. > :00:41.Muslims leaved to be Muslims, they also need to adhere to the Islamic

:00:42. > :00:46.principles fully. I understand where you are coming from, can Islam

:00:47. > :00:53.evolve? It has evolved throughout time, Muslims need a change. They

:00:54. > :00:58.need to embrace the concept of justice, fairness and accepting

:00:59. > :00:59.there is something called living with differences. Certain principles

:01:00. > :01:09.of Islam will not change. Isn't it about time there was some

:01:10. > :01:14.reform on homosexuality? You and I can demand that, that is the idea...

:01:15. > :01:18.For British LGBT Muslims in the UK there is definite demand and a call

:01:19. > :01:23.for acceptance and tolerance around this. Let's say we accept that,

:01:24. > :01:27.accept and tolerate one another's differences, but with the Koran, the

:01:28. > :01:32.Word of God, change? Note it, it would, because it came to Prophet

:01:33. > :01:39.Muhammad as it was revealed. If it changes, it changes the fundamental

:01:40. > :01:42.principles of Islam. But Muslims under no circumstances should be

:01:43. > :01:45.intolerant or unfair, but the principles of Islam will remain the

:01:46. > :01:49.same. I understand, thank you both for comment on the programme.

:01:50. > :01:54.Let's get the weather with Carol Kirkwood.

:01:55. > :02:01.We have got a lot of cloud, some bright spells, and we have also got

:02:02. > :02:05.some thunderstorms around as well. If we start the forecast looking at

:02:06. > :02:09.the broader picture, my charts are not working, there they are, we have

:02:10. > :02:13.got rain coming across eastern Scotland, moving out of Northern

:02:14. > :02:18.Ireland, and we have got a plethora of showers across England and Wales,

:02:19. > :02:22.some of which will be slow-moving, heavy, and also thundery.

:02:23. > :02:28.Temperatures up to about 19, it will feel quite Mcgee, if you are out and

:02:29. > :02:34.about. The lion share of the sunshine will be across Orkney and

:02:35. > :02:38.Shetland 's. As we had through the evening and overnight, some

:02:39. > :02:41.persistent rain across northern Scotland, the air coming from a more

:02:42. > :02:46.northerly direction which means it will turn that bit fresher but still

:02:47. > :02:52.a lot of showers across England and some murky conditions from the North

:02:53. > :02:57.Sea, low cloud here. It will not be a particularly cold night except in

:02:58. > :03:01.the far north. As we head into tomorrow, persistent rain across

:03:02. > :03:05.Scotland, some showers across Northern Ireland, more showers for

:03:06. > :03:09.England and Wales, not all of us catching them, but potential for

:03:10. > :03:14.them to be heavy and thundery, and dry, bright conditions in between,

:03:15. > :03:15.some of us even seeing the sun and maximum temperatures tomorrow up to

:03:16. > :03:20.20 Celsius. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:03:21. > :03:33.welcome to the programme Our top story: I don't wish this on

:03:34. > :03:35.any human being, the father of the murdered South African model Reeva

:03:36. > :03:40.Steenkamp is giving testimony in court for the first time since she

:03:41. > :03:44.was shot dead by her boyfriend, the athlete Oscar Pistorius. He says he

:03:45. > :03:50.wants the world to see the wounds that killed his daughter. A lot of

:03:51. > :03:54.people will disagree with me and think that I am callous or whatever

:03:55. > :04:05.it is, but what I would like the world to see are the wounds

:04:06. > :04:13.inflicted on to Reeva and the pain she must have gone through, so that

:04:14. > :04:16.the world can see this and most probably distract people who are

:04:17. > :04:21.thinking of that type of deed to stop them in future, and this is why

:04:22. > :04:27.I ask if something like that could be shown to everybody.

:04:28. > :04:40.The head of the FA is worried about the security arrangements at head of

:04:41. > :04:45.England's next game in Euro 2016. He has rejected the idea that fans

:04:46. > :04:47.were partly to blame the trouble inside the stadium.

:04:48. > :04:50.We will get reaction from England supporters before 11am.

:04:51. > :04:53.And, exclusive access to a scheme in schools which helps children

:04:54. > :04:55.who've been exposed to domestic violence at home.

:04:56. > :05:01.If there is a child in a home and the night before there has been a

:05:02. > :05:05.call to the police and there has been domestic abuse, I, as the

:05:06. > :05:10.headteacher, will be told that have happened prior to 9am the next

:05:11. > :05:14.school day. What it means is that we, their teachers, who spend large

:05:15. > :05:19.part of time with them, we can do some support for them.

:05:20. > :05:24.And, a mum in her 40s has 17 children taken into care.

:05:25. > :05:34.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:05:35. > :05:37.Reeva Steenkamp's father has given emotional

:05:38. > :05:39.testimony at the sentencing of Oscar Pistorious,

:05:40. > :05:46.The athlete is back in court in Pretoria this morning

:05:47. > :05:50.for the second day of his sentencing hearing after he was found guilty

:05:51. > :05:54.of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp last December.

:05:55. > :05:56.Ms Steenkamp's father, Barry Steenkamp, told

:05:57. > :06:03.of the toll his daughters death had on him, saying he is unable to "mix

:06:04. > :06:08.with people" since his daughter's murder.

:06:09. > :06:17.What she must have gone through in those split seconds, she must have

:06:18. > :06:23.been in so much fear and pain. That is what I think of all the time will

:06:24. > :06:33.stop I visualise that I can see it myself. It must have been absolutely

:06:34. > :06:42.and utterly awful. Because of that, you also tried to hurt yourself?

:06:43. > :06:47.Yes. At times... I thought the pain that Reeva went through, I used to,

:06:48. > :06:52.I don't know whether I was going to mental or whatever, but are used to

:06:53. > :06:57.take my fist and hit it up against the wall, my knuckles, might

:06:58. > :07:02.injection from my diabetes, I used to take the needle and shove it into

:07:03. > :07:06.my stomach and my arms to see if I could feel the same type of pain,

:07:07. > :07:12.but no. We will speak to a spokesperson for

:07:13. > :07:15.the family just before 10:30am, stay with us for that.

:07:16. > :07:17.The chairman of the FA, Greg Dyke, has written to European

:07:18. > :07:19.football's governing body, Uefa, to express 'serious

:07:20. > :07:20.concern' about security arrangements in Lille,

:07:21. > :07:22.where England and Russia fans will gather for this

:07:23. > :07:26.Both sets of supporters clashed in Marseilles at the weekend.

:07:27. > :07:29.The two teams have been warned they could be expelled

:07:30. > :07:31.from the Euros if their fans are involved in more violence.

:07:32. > :07:34.The FA chairman has rejected a suggestion that England supporters

:07:35. > :07:36.were at fault for scenes inside the stadium

:07:37. > :07:48.Let's go live to Sally Nugent in Paris. What is being done about

:07:49. > :07:52.security? You mentioned the flash point,

:07:53. > :07:56.Russia due to play in Lille on Wednesday, England and Wales playing

:07:57. > :08:00.in Lens on Thursday, Greg Dyke in his letter this morning has said

:08:01. > :08:04.clearly he would welcome an alcohol ban, particularly in Lille on

:08:05. > :08:09.Wednesday when many English fans have been told to gather their ad of

:08:10. > :08:14.Thursday's match against Wales in Lens. There were security worries

:08:15. > :08:19.about English and Welsh bands being together in Lens in a smaller space

:08:20. > :08:22.so the advice was to go to Lille and stay there but of course the Roger

:08:23. > :08:25.Barnes will have just seen their side place of IKEA there so Greg

:08:26. > :08:27.Dyke is appealing for an alcohol ban to be put on plays in Wednesday in

:08:28. > :08:38.Lille. New figures show around one in six

:08:39. > :08:41.children in England missed out on a place at their first choice

:08:42. > :08:44.of secondary school this year. In total, 84.1% of 11-year-olds

:08:45. > :08:46.were given a spot at their first preference,

:08:47. > :08:49.compared with 84.2% in 2015. One in eight primary school children

:08:50. > :08:51.didn't receive their That's a summary of

:08:52. > :09:06.the latest BBC News. Yes, it is a relief to be talking

:09:07. > :09:11.about sport instead of security problems in Paris over the last few

:09:12. > :09:15.days, across the country, I should say. The Republic of Ireland were 20

:09:16. > :09:20.minutes away from victory at the Stade Francais against Sweden

:09:21. > :09:23.yesterday. They scored a wonderful opener. Wes Hoolahan with a

:09:24. > :09:28.wonderful half volley into the corner. Sweden did not have a single

:09:29. > :09:33.shot on target but Ciaran Clarke headed into his own net. 1-41 the

:09:34. > :09:40.Final Score, the Republic face Belgium next on Saturday. -- 1-41

:09:41. > :09:44.was the final school. Italy are in charge in Group E

:09:45. > :09:52.after a 2-0 win over Belgium. This late goal from Southampton

:09:53. > :09:52.striker Graziano Pelle Defending champions Spain

:09:53. > :09:52.are up and running. Despite being totally dominant

:09:53. > :09:53.against the Czech Republic, they could only muster

:09:54. > :09:55.one goal in Toulouse, So, the home nations are next

:09:56. > :09:58.in action on Thursday. England will play Wales

:09:59. > :10:00.and Northern Ireland Michael O'Neill's side need a win

:10:01. > :10:04.after their opening Our reporter Katie Gornall

:10:05. > :10:18.is with the team at their training They need to lift themselves

:10:19. > :10:21.somehow, don't they? They certainly do, training has just

:10:22. > :10:24.started but before the players came onto the pitch they were brought

:10:25. > :10:27.into a huddle with Michael O'Neill who spoke to them for several

:10:28. > :10:30.minutes. They have got plenty to work on, there was a lot of

:10:31. > :10:40.excitement ahead of their opening game, their first in 30 years, but

:10:41. > :10:45.it did not go as planned, they only lost 1-0 but the gulf between the

:10:46. > :10:50.sides was quite great and we had some words from Kyle Lafferty in the

:10:51. > :10:54.aftermath of the game where he said the team failed to register a single

:10:55. > :10:57.shot on target and it was not a Northern Ireland performance so they

:10:58. > :11:04.will hope to put that right against Ukraine on Thursday, there is a

:11:05. > :11:07.danger man there on the wing but they know that realistically they

:11:08. > :11:11.need to get something out of that game if they are to avoid the

:11:12. > :11:15.prospect of having to play world champions Germany and win in their

:11:16. > :11:19.final match. We will hear more about that later when the players do their

:11:20. > :11:23.press conference but I think also in that match we will see an emotional

:11:24. > :11:27.tribute from supporters but Darren Rogers, the Northern Ireland fan who

:11:28. > :11:30.sadly lost his life in an accident on Monday, something that has

:11:31. > :11:35.resonated sadly with the fans and players here, and I think we will

:11:36. > :11:38.hear from Jonny Evans and Michael McGovern, the goalkeeper, later with

:11:39. > :11:46.more on that. Thanks very much.

:11:47. > :11:49.Away from the US, Ronald Koeman has finally been confirmed as the new

:11:50. > :11:54.Everton manager, replacing Roberto Martinez. He has signed a three-year

:11:55. > :11:58.deal after Everton agreed to pay ?5 million to release him from

:11:59. > :12:06.Southampton. Wales have lost 40 points to seven

:12:07. > :12:10.to New Zealand's superbug beside the cheats in Hamilton. -- super rugby

:12:11. > :12:17.side the Chiefs. One in five children are exposed

:12:18. > :12:20.to domestic violence in homes, but in many instances the schools

:12:21. > :12:22.are unaware that This programme has been given

:12:23. > :12:25.exclusive access to one scheme It's called Operation Encompass

:12:26. > :12:29.and aims to support children by ensuring police communicate

:12:30. > :12:31.directly with schools to inform them that an incident of domestic abuse

:12:32. > :12:40.has happened in a child's home. It was developed by a couple

:12:41. > :12:43.who are a head teacher and a police officer, and wanted to come up

:12:44. > :12:46.with a plan to stop schools being left in the dark

:12:47. > :12:54.about the home life of pupils. That couple, David and Lis

:12:55. > :13:01.Carney-Howarth, are here now. Also, Zoe Billingham, the lead of

:13:02. > :13:10.child inspection with Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary, and also

:13:11. > :13:14.a representative from a charity supporting women who have been

:13:15. > :13:18.exposed to domestic abuse. You started to talk to your husband,

:13:19. > :13:23.a police officer, about sorting this out, tell our viewers? I was angry

:13:24. > :13:26.because I had a visit from an education welfare officer in the

:13:27. > :13:30.October, she came to talk about attendance targets and at the end

:13:31. > :13:35.she said, there was an incident, and detailed it to me, and it had

:13:36. > :13:38.happened and -- it had happened in June, it was now October and the

:13:39. > :13:42.child was not even in my school any longer. I could pinpoint the change

:13:43. > :13:46.in that child's behaviour to when that domestic abuse incident

:13:47. > :13:50.happened and I was furious because I knew that we have been given no

:13:51. > :13:54.chance to support the child and his last few months with us and the

:13:55. > :13:56.experiences he was now having in his next school may never have happened

:13:57. > :14:13.if we had been given the chance to make a difference for that

:14:14. > :14:18.little boy. Hence this simple but logical idea, and so effective that

:14:19. > :14:23.how many children now do you think have been helped by the skin?

:14:24. > :14:27.Thousands, literally thousands. It is hard to put a number on it

:14:28. > :14:34.because there are 15 forces that have embraced this. I thought it was

:14:35. > :14:37.12, has it gone up? Yes, it is hard to know exactly but we are in the

:14:38. > :14:42.thousands. In the first few months in Plymouth there were 1000

:14:43. > :14:46.children, we held an event at Plymouth Argyle football ground

:14:47. > :14:52.where we got 1000 children to come in and represented the victims that

:14:53. > :14:55.we had supported. We saw in the film earlier, we had an example of a

:14:56. > :14:59.little boy who turned up with his teddy bear which normally would have

:15:00. > :15:02.been removed, but he was allowed to keep the teddy bear that day. Give

:15:03. > :15:07.us another example of somebody you have helped to have been exposed to

:15:08. > :15:11.domestic abuse who you were able to help because the police had informed

:15:12. > :15:16.you? This is another example from Plymouth, a much older child, to

:15:17. > :15:20.show the difference. There had been an incident of domestic abuse, she

:15:21. > :15:24.was about to sit her exams that morning, so they met her and took

:15:25. > :15:28.her to one side, told her they knew what had happened at home and they

:15:29. > :15:32.said, have you had breakfast? Do you need to sit your exams somewhere

:15:33. > :15:35.else or do you want to sit it with everyone else? They took the time to

:15:36. > :15:40.talk to how to make sure she was calm and in an emotionally as good a

:15:41. > :15:44.place as you could be with what had happened and was therefore able to

:15:45. > :15:48.sit her exams. Another example of a child of a similar age, they spoke

:15:49. > :15:52.to her about what was happening at home and she was fine, I don't need

:15:53. > :15:55.to talk about it, it is fine. A few weeks later she went back to them,

:15:56. > :15:59.because they knew what was happening in the home, and she said, I cannot

:16:00. > :16:10.live there any longer, I need to move out but I want to move out

:16:11. > :16:12.safely, said because of Operation Encompass she was able to move out

:16:13. > :16:15.safely instead of possibly becoming a missing child who left home and

:16:16. > :16:18.nobody knew where due was, anything like that, so she was able to do

:16:19. > :16:20.that in a positive way, so it ranges from a teddy bear to helping a

:16:21. > :16:25.16-year-old move out safely, that is what it can do.

:16:26. > :16:31.Thank goodness not only has somebody realise the impact of domestic abuse

:16:32. > :16:36.on children, which is extremely severe and long-lasting, but is

:16:37. > :16:41.doing something about it which is really practical. What has to be in

:16:42. > :16:47.place is support for the victim as well, because domestic abuse

:16:48. > :16:54.absolutely eat away at the very heart of a woman's ability to parent

:16:55. > :16:57.her children. It is important, this is happening at a time and we are

:16:58. > :17:02.seeing support services for women scaled back, and we need to make

:17:03. > :17:08.sure that the support is there is a follow up. It is fantastic, I know a

:17:09. > :17:15.boy who was not going to school, because he was too scared to leave

:17:16. > :17:18.his mother. Truancy, the effect on her of that, her legal

:17:19. > :17:22.responsibilities in relation to his truancy, all of that could have been

:17:23. > :17:29.avoided with this scheme. You have inspected forces, how do you rate

:17:30. > :17:34.Operation Encompass? We think it is fantastic, what is there not to

:17:35. > :17:38.like? It is so common sense. There is often a tendency to

:17:39. > :17:43.overcomplicate, here is a simple way that children can be looked at and

:17:44. > :17:48.looked after at school, just a passing a simple piece of

:17:49. > :17:51.information overnight to the school. There are only 15 forces in the

:17:52. > :17:56.country doing this that we are aware of. For those that are doing it,

:17:57. > :18:00.please carry on, for those that are not, we are coming back to inspect

:18:01. > :18:05.forces to see how well they are providing a service to victims. We

:18:06. > :18:09.will look to see whether or not those remaining forces of the 43

:18:10. > :18:19.going to introduce this scheme. Why wouldn't you? You raise one

:18:20. > :18:22.question, might it stop some women potentially reporting domestic abuse

:18:23. > :18:28.to the police, because they know the school might be involved? We need to

:18:29. > :18:33.make sure this does not happen. As more and more forces role in this

:18:34. > :18:37.out, they need to keep track of women coming forward to make sure

:18:38. > :18:45.that that is not negatively impacted, occurs we don't want to

:18:46. > :18:48.create a fear that women won't tell the police because they know the

:18:49. > :18:53.information will be passed on. I hope that won't happen. On the

:18:54. > :18:57.contrary, what a victim should feel is if this scheme is in place, it

:18:58. > :19:02.means the police are treating domestic abuse in a victim centred

:19:03. > :19:09.and compassionate way. It should be a good sign, but I hope it does not

:19:10. > :19:16.deter women from reporting. Really appreciate it. If you want to watch

:19:17. > :19:22.our full film, you can find it on our programme page on your website.

:19:23. > :19:24."I don't wish this on any human being."

:19:25. > :19:26.The father of the murdered South African model Reeva Steenkamp

:19:27. > :19:30.is giving testimony in court for the first time since

:19:31. > :19:35.she was shot dead by the athlete Oscar Pistorius.

:19:36. > :19:40.He says he wants the world to see the wounds that killed his daughter.

:19:41. > :19:44.Barry Steenkamp says he would stick needles in his arms and stomach

:19:45. > :19:49.to see if he could feel the pain Reeva had felt and that

:19:50. > :19:58.Oscar Pistiorus must pay for his crime.

:19:59. > :20:08.The house to pay for what he did. He has to pay for it.

:20:09. > :20:20.That is all I can say. How should he pay for it? That is up to the court.

:20:21. > :20:25.And we will go by the decision the court hands down to Oscar. He has to

:20:26. > :20:40.pay for his crime. Utterly distressing testimony from

:20:41. > :20:48.her father this morning, tell us more. It was a sad, emotional

:20:49. > :20:57.moment, completely heart-wrenching evidence that her father gave inside

:20:58. > :21:01.the courtroom. He recounted the day Reeva was killed, he said he was at

:21:02. > :21:06.work, he got a distressed phone call from his wife June and rushed home.

:21:07. > :21:11.As he got there, he realised that his daughter had been murdered. He

:21:12. > :21:16.also told the court he feels that he wants the world to see the wounds

:21:17. > :21:22.that killed Reeva Steenkamp, and he also says Oscar Pistorius should pay

:21:23. > :21:31.for the crime, but at the same time we heard before his evidence from a

:21:32. > :21:34.woman, a famous chef from Ireland, she said she feels that Oscar

:21:35. > :21:41.Pistorius has already been punished enough, he is a model citizen, and

:21:42. > :21:50.he should contribute to South African society. In terms of the

:21:51. > :21:55.hearing this week, from eyeing our audience why Oscar Pistorius is back

:21:56. > :22:01.in court. This is the recent and think. In December he lost the

:22:02. > :22:06.appeal to still stick with the culpable homicide conviction. After

:22:07. > :22:13.he was sentenced to five years for manslaughter, the equivalent of

:22:14. > :22:17.culpable homicide, the state went and approached the Supreme Court of

:22:18. > :22:23.Appeal, wanting the conviction to be turned to that of murder. The state

:22:24. > :22:29.one that appeal. Oscar Pistorius was convicted for murder. That is why he

:22:30. > :22:33.has been resentenced. According to the criminal procedures act of South

:22:34. > :22:39.Africa, a minimum sentence for murder is 15 years.

:22:40. > :22:42.America has been mourning its dead after the mass murder in the gay

:22:43. > :22:45.Mourning its dead and asking questions about the nation's

:22:46. > :22:49.Vigils have been held around the United States

:22:50. > :22:52.and in this country, from Glasgow to Manchester,

:22:53. > :22:56.In Soho, the heart of London's gay nightlife, thousands of people

:22:57. > :23:00.packed into Old Compton Street, itself the victim of a homophobic

:23:01. > :23:05.terror attack in 1999, for a two-minute silence.

:23:06. > :23:09.Our reporter James Longman went to join them.

:23:10. > :23:18.A moment for London to remember Orlando's dead.

:23:19. > :23:27.So, silence ending with a spontaneous round of applause,

:23:28. > :23:35.as multicoloured balloons rise into the air over London.

:23:36. > :23:37.Similar vigils were marked all over the world, but here,

:23:38. > :23:40.Orlando's victims were honoured in a place hatred has struck before.

:23:41. > :23:43.Three people died in a homophobic nail-bomb attack in 1999

:23:44. > :23:53.A fitting place to think of those killed at the weekend.

:23:54. > :23:55.I don't think people who are not gay, lesbian, bisexual

:23:56. > :23:57.or transgender realise the mental gymnastics that

:23:58. > :24:03.What's going to happen if I hold this guy's hand, or kiss this guy?

:24:04. > :24:07.Can you maybe explain a little bit about why gay venues,

:24:08. > :24:12.LGBT venues are important for people to be able to go to historically?

:24:13. > :24:16.Well, I think they are a safe space, and I think it's really sad

:24:17. > :24:19.that we can't actually go to these places and not feel safe, and that's

:24:20. > :24:25.And will you all be going to Pride this year?

:24:26. > :24:35.This again is making it more obvious, more clear that, yeah,

:24:36. > :24:39.we've won a lot of the battles in the UK and Europe,

:24:40. > :24:54.Going into a queer space, a gay club, yes, it's

:24:55. > :24:57.about having a good time and being with your friends,

:24:58. > :24:59.but it's also about a safe space, a place of sanctuary.

:25:00. > :25:02.I've been going to gay clubs for 18 years or more, and probably

:25:03. > :25:06.And I went there for fun and debauchery.

:25:07. > :25:09.But I found my community and my friends and a place where I'm

:25:10. > :25:12.not worried to go to the toilets on my own because nobody

:25:13. > :25:18.So we're are mourning the loss of the people that we love,

:25:19. > :25:21.whether we knew them or not, but I think we are also mourning

:25:22. > :25:44.I woman from Newcastle has had 17 different children taken into care.

:25:45. > :25:51.One woman has given birth 17 times and all children have been taken

:25:52. > :25:55.into care. That is right. We put in a Freedom of Information request to

:25:56. > :25:59.Newcastle City Council when we found out they had approached a charity

:26:00. > :26:06.and asked for help. That is when we got the figure of 17. This is a

:26:07. > :26:10.repeat removal, researchers say this happens either immediately after

:26:11. > :26:14.birth or very shortly after birth. For these women, life has always

:26:15. > :26:19.been difficult, 50% have been in care themselves, even more have been

:26:20. > :26:23.in domestically violent relationships, and many have had

:26:24. > :26:27.drug and alcohol problems. That is why their children have been

:26:28. > :26:30.removed. You believe that this is the highest amount of children taken

:26:31. > :26:36.from one mother in the whole of England? We do. We approached

:26:37. > :26:42.researchers at Lancaster University with the figure of 17. We said, have

:26:43. > :26:48.you heard of a figure as high as that? They said, no, that was the

:26:49. > :26:54.highest they had heard. They'd use reliable data sets that they have

:26:55. > :26:59.got from family courts. They are the leading UK authority on repeat

:27:00. > :27:04.removal is. In terms of Newcastle, do they say, this is a particular

:27:05. > :27:07.problem in our area? They have identified it as a problem, but it

:27:08. > :27:14.is a nationwide problem. The charity they work with has worked with seven

:27:15. > :27:18.local authorities, Newcastle will be the eighth, they have worked with

:27:19. > :27:23.people in London, Doncaster and Hull. Newcastle has the attention

:27:24. > :27:29.grabbing figure, but it is a nationwide issue. What do they say

:27:30. > :27:34.in their statement? They have not been able to put anybody up for

:27:35. > :27:36.interview, but I have some of the statement. It would not be

:27:37. > :27:41.appropriate to comment on a specific case. As for care for mothers, it

:27:42. > :27:46.will be dependent on the needs of each mother, who made themselves be

:27:47. > :27:51.vulnerable. In Newcastle we have taken a robust approach to gathering

:27:52. > :27:54.and analysing data and using this information innovatively to improve

:27:55. > :27:58.outcomes for children we have studied the practice from other

:27:59. > :28:01.parts of the country, where there have been success in identifying and

:28:02. > :28:02.addressing the issue of mothers who repeatedly have their children

:28:03. > :28:08.taking into care. On this programme recently

:28:09. > :28:12.we spoke to Annie - She had several children taken

:28:13. > :28:23.into care and fought to regain When you put your children into

:28:24. > :28:26.care, there is always the thought you can do some work, try and write

:28:27. > :28:36.the prongs that have meant they have had to go into care. When the child

:28:37. > :28:39.is taken, the story has already started to be written, and if the

:28:40. > :28:45.child is a baby, you know the child may never come back to you, it may

:28:46. > :28:49.be adopted. You do not know what the future holds for your family. When

:28:50. > :28:54.you have been reunited with some of your children after they have been

:28:55. > :29:03.taken into care, what is that like? It is lovely, wonderful, great, that

:29:04. > :29:06.it is also very scary, because your children have lost trust in you,

:29:07. > :29:12.because you have put them in a house with strangers through no fault of

:29:13. > :29:18.their own. They have not done anything to warrant being there.

:29:19. > :29:24.They have to build up their trust in you again. You also have to

:29:25. > :29:26.demonstrate that the reason they went into care will not happen again

:29:27. > :29:29.to the local authority. Let's talk to Sophie Humphreys -

:29:30. > :29:33.she runs Pause, a project working with women who have experienced

:29:34. > :29:37.what are called repeat removals. Andy Elvin is a social worker

:29:38. > :29:40.who has carried out several He now runs a charity for fostering

:29:41. > :29:52.and adopting children. Your response to the fact that one

:29:53. > :30:00.woman has given birth to 17 children and they all have been removed? This

:30:01. > :30:07.is a national issue. 17 is the more extreme end, but we are working in

:30:08. > :30:11.seven local areas currently, we are about to start a Newcastle, and we

:30:12. > :30:16.are looking at working with women who have an average of four children

:30:17. > :30:25.removed, often you will see ten, 11, 12. How do you react to this? It is

:30:26. > :30:28.at the extreme end, but I have been involved in cases where we have

:30:29. > :30:33.removed three or four children. In the early 2000 is, we were crying

:30:34. > :30:38.out for a service like Pause, because you know you will be back

:30:39. > :30:43.with the same other in months, you get to the end of one set of

:30:44. > :30:46.proceedings, the mother was already pregnant, and nothing had changed.

:30:47. > :30:50.The social workers are there for the child, so once the child is removed,

:30:51. > :30:56.there is not a service for the parent. It is vital we work with

:30:57. > :31:02.these women, because they will be back in. Not only is it bad for

:31:03. > :31:04.children, it costs a fortune. Tell our audience about the lives of

:31:05. > :31:11.these women who get pregnant continually. The reason that Pause

:31:12. > :31:12.came about was because of that experience of removing children from

:31:13. > :31:24.the same women. When you look at their lives, they

:31:25. > :31:29.are very vulnerable. They have very comp like slides. The majority of

:31:30. > :31:33.them have had extremely poor childhood experiences, they will

:31:34. > :31:38.have been sexually abused, they may have been sexually exploited, often

:31:39. > :31:46.missed education during that time, they have also, 50% of them, been in

:31:47. > :31:51.care themselves, so we are looking at a transgenerational issue. What

:31:52. > :31:56.we are about is trying to break that cycle.

:31:57. > :32:01.To break that cycle, did the women on the programme have to be on

:32:02. > :32:06.contraception? Absolutely, it is a voluntary programme but for them to

:32:07. > :32:10.have the balls, and to have what we have named it for, to create space

:32:11. > :32:14.for those women to focus on other aspects of their lives, if it is

:32:15. > :32:18.caught up with the risk of getting pregnant and all the things that

:32:19. > :32:25.kick into play once a woman is pregnant, it will sap the tide --

:32:26. > :32:27.sabotage the chance of them making a change and tackling those

:32:28. > :32:31.destructive issues and behaviours they have been called into because

:32:32. > :32:35.of not having had the opportunity to focus on themselves before. Andy,

:32:36. > :32:38.you said as a social worker you were involved in a number of repeat

:32:39. > :32:41.removal cases. It is worth emphasising it is not a social

:32:42. > :32:46.worker who make the decision to remove a child? Absolutely not. You

:32:47. > :32:50.said your interest is the child but a judge makes the decision. What

:32:51. > :32:54.were they things as a social worker that you have to consider? You

:32:55. > :32:57.considered the best interests of the child and whether they are likely to

:32:58. > :33:00.suffer significant harm, and if the mother has not received services to

:33:01. > :33:04.move on from the issues that have led to children being removed, the

:33:05. > :33:09.legal threshold will be met and the judge will allow you to remove the

:33:10. > :33:10.child. In social work we are good at supporting children but sometimes

:33:11. > :33:26.not supporting parents have lost their children and

:33:27. > :33:29.we don't sufficiently support payments when the children are

:33:30. > :33:31.returned to them. When a child goes into foster care there is a lot of

:33:32. > :33:34.support but when they returned to both parents there is little support

:33:35. > :33:37.and it is a hidden area in social work and we have to get better at

:33:38. > :33:39.both. Let me bring in Karen Broadhurst from Lancaster University

:33:40. > :33:42.has researched the issue. Welcome to the programme. Thank you. We started

:33:43. > :33:46.looking at a family court records in 2014 and what we were able to do

:33:47. > :33:50.with those records was establish the size of the problem, so as Sophie

:33:51. > :33:53.and Andy are talking about practitioners on the front line were

:33:54. > :33:59.meeting those cases in their day-to-day work but we were able to

:34:00. > :34:01.quantify the size of the problem nationally and to identify that

:34:02. > :34:08.returning to court is far from unusual. Using probabilities, one in

:34:09. > :34:13.three very young women and one in four older women will return to

:34:14. > :34:17.court, so this is something the Family Court are dealing with

:34:18. > :34:28.typically on a day-to-day basis. In terms of numbers, what are we

:34:29. > :34:33.looking at? During the 2007-2000 14, 7000 women, a sizeable population,

:34:34. > :34:40.all individual women, not duplicate -- 2007 to 2014. We have to take

:34:41. > :34:45.into account they are coming back on multiple occasions, twice, three

:34:46. > :34:48.times, more than four times. Thank you, we are going to leave it there

:34:49. > :35:06.but we appreciate your time very much.

:35:07. > :35:08.With the news, here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom.

:35:09. > :35:10.Reeva Steenkamp's father has given emotional

:35:11. > :35:12.testimony at the sentencing of Oscar Pistorious,

:35:13. > :35:14.describing his grief over his daughter's death.

:35:15. > :35:16.Pistorious is back in court in Pretoria this morning

:35:17. > :35:19.for the second day of his sentencing hearing after he was found guilty

:35:20. > :35:21.of murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp last December.

:35:22. > :35:22.Ms Steenkamp's father Barry Steenkamp told

:35:23. > :35:26.of the toll his daughter's death had on him, saying he is unable to "mix

:35:27. > :35:40.What she must have gone through in those split seconds... She must have

:35:41. > :35:47.been in so much fear and pain. That is what I think all the time, I

:35:48. > :35:49.visualise that I can see it myself. It must have been absolutely and

:35:50. > :35:55.utterly awful. The chairman of the FA, Greg Dyke,

:35:56. > :35:58.has written to European football's governing body Uefa to express

:35:59. > :36:00."serious concern" about security arrangements in Lille,

:36:01. > :36:02.where England and Russia fans will gather for this

:36:03. > :36:04.week's Euro 2016 matches. Both sets of supporters clashed

:36:05. > :36:06.in Marseilles at the weekend. The two teams have been warned

:36:07. > :36:08.they could be expelled from the Euros if their fans

:36:09. > :36:12.are involved in more violence. Vigils and memorial services have

:36:13. > :36:15.been held in Orlando, across the UK and around the world

:36:16. > :36:18.for the victims of Sunday's Authorities are still

:36:19. > :36:21.trying to understand the motives of Omar Mateen,

:36:22. > :36:26.and whether he was inspired purely by so-called Islamic State,

:36:27. > :36:28.with new reports suggesting the gunman visited

:36:29. > :36:33.the club several times. The French President Francois

:36:34. > :36:35.Hollande has described the killing of a senior police officer

:36:36. > :36:38.and his partner near Paris The officer, who wasn't in uniform,

:36:39. > :36:43.was stabbed outside his home by a man who then barricaded

:36:44. > :36:45.himself into the house. A police raid found the bodies

:36:46. > :36:49.of a woman and that of the attacker. It's reported that the attacker

:36:50. > :36:52.claimed allegiance to so-called That's a summary of the latest

:36:53. > :36:58.news, join me for BBC Thank you, Victoria,

:36:59. > :37:08.here are today's sport headlines, starting here in Paris,

:37:09. > :37:11.where Ireland started their Euro 2016 campaign

:37:12. > :37:16.with a draw against Sweden. A Wes Hoolahan goal had seen

:37:17. > :37:19.Martin O'Neill's side into the lead, before an own goal meant

:37:20. > :37:21.it finished 1-1. Italy are in charge in Group E

:37:22. > :37:26.after a 2-0 win over Belgium. This late goal from Southampton

:37:27. > :37:28.striker Graziano Pelle Defending champions Spain

:37:29. > :37:34.are up and running. Despite being totally dominant

:37:35. > :37:36.against the Czech Republic they could only muster

:37:37. > :37:40.one goal in Toulouse. Away from the Euros,

:37:41. > :37:47.Ronald Koeman has finally been confirmed as the new Everton

:37:48. > :37:49.manager, replacing Roberto Martinez. Koeman has signed a three-year deal

:37:50. > :37:51.after Everton agreed to pay ?5 million to release

:37:52. > :37:55.him from Southampton. Finally, Wales have lost 40-7

:37:56. > :38:00.to New Zealand Super Rugby side Wales captain Luke Charteris says

:38:01. > :38:16.they let themselves down. That is all the sports News from

:38:17. > :38:20.here in Paris, back to you. Is there panic in the Labour Party

:38:21. > :38:24.over the possibility of Britain voting to leave the European Union?

:38:25. > :38:29.Let's speak to our political Guru Norman Smith.

:38:30. > :38:34.Is there? There is a certain gallows humour in the Remain camp. I am at

:38:35. > :38:39.the TUC headquarters where Mr Corbyn will be arriving with his Shadow

:38:40. > :38:42.Cabinet shortly for a lovey-dovey photo to underline how they are all

:38:43. > :38:46.together, campaigning to keep Britain in the EU. But what do you

:38:47. > :38:51.do if you are a Labour Leader and you think Labour supporters are just

:38:52. > :38:56.not listening to you? There are two things, you could go and cry in the

:38:57. > :39:00.corner or you can press the NHS buttons. That is pretty much what

:39:01. > :39:04.Jeremy Corbyn will do today, he will hammer it with an almighty great

:39:05. > :39:10.mallet in the hope that saying the NHS is at risk if we vote to leave

:39:11. > :39:14.will get Labour people to back Remain because there is growing

:39:15. > :39:17.concern that a large swathe of them, primarily because of immigration,

:39:18. > :39:22.will vote for Brexit, so today Mr Corbyn will say, be careful because

:39:23. > :39:26.Boris Johnson and the leaders of the Brexit campaigns are not big on the

:39:27. > :39:30.NHS, they have spoken about privatising it, talking about social

:39:31. > :39:34.insurance schemes for the NHS, and he will warn that if we pull out the

:39:35. > :39:40.economy will take a huge hit which will mean less cash for the NHS.

:39:41. > :39:45.Against that, he has run up against them of his own MPs who are

:39:46. > :39:49.campaigning for Brexit, people like Labour's Bradfield, who have written

:39:50. > :39:55.a joint letter to the Sun newspaper, about a dozen of them, saying, there

:39:56. > :39:59.is nothing disloyal about voting for Brexit -- Labour's Frank Field.

:40:00. > :40:04.Don't be bad as a Labour person if you vote Brexit, and you sense there

:40:05. > :40:09.is tension now in the Labour camp with all sides trying to appeal to

:40:10. > :40:17.Labour voters -- don't feel bad. In terms of the pledge from the

:40:18. > :40:20.Leave side to organisations, academics, universities, various

:40:21. > :40:24.institutions, that they will continue to receive that European

:40:25. > :40:28.funding in the event of a vote to leave, how can they make that

:40:29. > :40:36.promise? It is a very good question. What

:40:37. > :40:42.they say is that the money we give to Europe and Europe gets back to us

:40:43. > :40:48.in terms of cash through the Common Agricultural Policy or cash for

:40:49. > :40:51.universities, all cash for deprived areas of Britain, they will make

:40:52. > :40:56.good the money, they say, they will not just have it cut up with a

:40:57. > :41:00.resounding thud, and they said they will make the sums add up because,

:41:01. > :41:05.they say, we will no longer be paying, they say, ?350 million a

:41:06. > :41:08.week to the EU, and we know that they do has been challenged and the

:41:09. > :41:11.Institute for Fiscal Studies and others will be gunning through the

:41:12. > :41:14.latest numbers, but you get the sense they want to reassure people

:41:15. > :41:24.it will not all be massive change and their lives will not be thrown

:41:25. > :41:26.up in the air and people will be destitute if we leave the EU. In

:41:27. > :41:29.other words, trying to reassure voters that if we take this huge

:41:30. > :41:31.step it will be all right on the night.

:41:32. > :41:35.I wonder if there are some around Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the

:41:36. > :41:39.Labour Party, wondering if they have left it a bit late to reassure their

:41:40. > :41:46.own supporters that they should be voting to remain?

:41:47. > :41:49.Sorry, I'm afraid I missed that, you broke up a bit.

:41:50. > :41:52.I was saying I wonder if Jeremy Corbyn and those around him at the

:41:53. > :42:00.top of Labour are wondering whether they left it a bit late to convince

:42:01. > :42:04.their supporters to vote to remain? It is a fraught moment for the

:42:05. > :42:07.Labour Party, let's be honest, because there are some who fear that

:42:08. > :42:13.something much more profound is going on with Labour here, it is not

:42:14. > :42:17.just about immigration, it is a much longer term issue and in a way it is

:42:18. > :42:20.like what happened in Scotland, with many traditional Labour voters,

:42:21. > :42:26.predominantly in northern old manufacturing seeds feel the party

:42:27. > :42:29.does not represent them, it is too middle-class, to metropolitan, and

:42:30. > :42:32.that is precisely the sort of voter that people like Frank Field are

:42:33. > :42:36.trying to appeal to, and when I spoke to him this morning he said Mr

:42:37. > :42:41.Corbyn should not think you can simply tell Labour voters what to do

:42:42. > :42:44.when they will follow him. This has been wonderful, this

:42:45. > :42:47.globalisation moves throughout the world, for the rich, but if you are

:42:48. > :42:53.at the bottom of the pile you have paid the price, and we are seeing it

:42:54. > :42:58.in America, we are seeing it in France, Germany, Austria, and we are

:42:59. > :43:02.seeing it here, people saying, it is enough, I am fed up, and we don't

:43:03. > :43:05.have to take it. That is partly what this boat is about, to say, we have

:43:06. > :43:25.borne this price of your open markets with our wages being pushed

:43:26. > :43:28.down, our children not being able to get houses, not being able to get

:43:29. > :43:30.into the schools that we would like to get them into, of lengthening

:43:31. > :43:32.queues in the NHS, and the referendum day will be a day when

:43:33. > :43:35.they say, enough is enough. Here is a funny thing, a lot of the

:43:36. > :43:38.Labour folk gathering here take the view that we in the media are partly

:43:39. > :43:41.to blame for what is happening to the Labour vote because they say we

:43:42. > :43:44.are not reporting what Labour is doing and therefore it is impossible

:43:45. > :43:46.for Team Corbyn and others to get the message across. My understanding

:43:47. > :43:50.is today Mr Corbyn won't be taking any questions from the media and you

:43:51. > :43:54.are left scratching your head and thinking, if you want us to report

:43:55. > :44:08.what you are doing, surely you at least have to

:44:09. > :44:12.allow us to ask you some questions? Maybe that will change but at the

:44:13. > :44:14.moment it seems there will not be any cue an day with people like me.

:44:15. > :44:17.There is no law requiring politicians to take questions from

:44:18. > :44:20.people like yourself, Norman, as you know! Thank you for them moment.

:44:21. > :44:22.If you've got any questions on the EU referendum, let us know.

:44:23. > :44:25.The Conservative MP and former Defence Secretary Dr Liam Fox,

:44:26. > :44:27.who supports Britain leaving the EU, will be answering your questions

:44:28. > :44:30.at 11:30am tomorrow morning here on the BBC News Channel.

:44:31. > :44:32.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag #BBCAskThis,

:44:33. > :44:43.It is an alarming statistic, one in five children exposed to domestic

:44:44. > :44:44.abuse in their own home but many schools are unaware anything is

:44:45. > :44:55.going on. This programme has been given

:44:56. > :44:57.exclusive access to one scheme It's called Operation Encompass

:44:58. > :45:01.and aims to support children by ensuring police communicate

:45:02. > :45:03.directly with schools to inform them that an incident of domestic abuse

:45:04. > :45:06.has happened in a child's home. It was developed by a couple

:45:07. > :45:09.who are a head teacher and a police officer, and wanted to come up

:45:10. > :45:12.with a plan to stop schools being left in the dark

:45:13. > :45:15.about the home life of pupils. We bought you Rebecca Wilcox's full

:45:16. > :45:18.report earlier in the programme. He would push me, shove me,

:45:19. > :45:21.there's been occasions In England and Wales,

:45:22. > :45:24.around a quarter of women experience Jane, which isn't her real name,

:45:25. > :45:28.is one of them, and, like many of those victims,

:45:29. > :45:30.she has kids. Locking me out of my house

:45:31. > :45:33.with my children, I couldn't go back to the house to go and get my stuff

:45:34. > :45:38.because he said he will kill me. Jane's kids make up just three

:45:39. > :45:41.of the estimated million children in the UK who've been

:45:42. > :45:50.affected by domestic abuse. Lis Carney-Howarth is

:45:51. > :45:52.the headteacher of an infant She was frustrated by the lack

:45:53. > :45:59.of help given to kids She and her husband David,

:46:00. > :46:03.who was then a policeman, came up with a plan to help kids

:46:04. > :46:08.who have witnessed domestic abuse. Operation Encompass

:46:09. > :46:12.is an incredibly simple idea. What it means is that

:46:13. > :46:15.if there is a child in a home and the night before there has been

:46:16. > :46:19.a call to the police and there's been domestic abuse,

:46:20. > :46:21.I, as the headteacher, will be told that has happened prior

:46:22. > :46:26.to 9am the next school day. And what it means is that we,

:46:27. > :46:29.their teachers, we can actually do That is where Jane and her

:46:30. > :46:37.son come in. We're calling him Alex,

:46:38. > :46:40.and he was just five years old when the scheme was introduced

:46:41. > :46:42.at Lis' school. This is the first time the mother

:46:43. > :46:45.of a child who has been on this We wanted to speak to Alex as well,

:46:46. > :46:50.but understandably Jane worried it So she told me how much

:46:51. > :46:53.support they had got It helped him and it

:46:54. > :46:59.helped me to stay strong, because I knew that I wasn't just

:47:00. > :47:02.sending my little boy to school to be worrying

:47:03. > :47:06.about what has gone on at home, feeling frightened but having no-one

:47:07. > :47:11.to talk to, because the headteacher and his teachers were made aware

:47:12. > :47:15.of this, so they really nursed him and gave him

:47:16. > :47:19.all the attention that he needed, He came out of school that day much

:47:20. > :47:30.brighter than when he went in. It was the first Operation Encompass

:47:31. > :47:37.call she had ever received. When he arrived at school,

:47:38. > :47:41.Alex brought with him a teddy bear. Normally when a child brings a teddy

:47:42. > :47:45.bear to school we would say, "Is Mummy taking the teddy bear home

:47:46. > :47:48.with her, or shall we put the teddy bear somewhere safe

:47:49. > :47:51.in the classroom?" But because we knew what had

:47:52. > :47:54.happened, his class teacher didn't do that, and she let him just

:47:55. > :47:59.bring his teddy bear into school. For us, that was absolutely

:48:00. > :48:01.nothing, but to that little From these small beginnings,

:48:02. > :48:05.Operation Encompass has been rolled out across at least 12 other police

:48:06. > :48:09.forces including Merseyside, Cheshire and Cleveland,

:48:10. > :48:15.but Elisabeth and David want more. It should be in every force

:48:16. > :48:17.for every school for every It is happening slowly,

:48:18. > :48:21.but we want more momentum, we want somebody to take control,

:48:22. > :48:25.maybe from Government. Even though Jane has moved on,

:48:26. > :48:27.she is still grateful for the ongoing support

:48:28. > :48:29.that her youngest received As soon as he became part

:48:30. > :48:37.of Operation Encompass, the bad behaviour stopped,

:48:38. > :48:39.he stopped the spitting, He was getting back to that lovely

:48:40. > :48:44.little boy, and if he wouldn't have had that help when he was five,

:48:45. > :49:08.it makes me feel sick to the stomach So many comments, this is Kate, I

:49:09. > :49:12.have been through 17 years of domestic file and is, I have two

:49:13. > :49:16.children, I cried when I watched your report, I thought it was

:49:17. > :49:20.fantastic. Might child still has panic attacks, she has not been to

:49:21. > :49:27.school for three years. This scheme would have helped both my children.

:49:28. > :49:31.Joy says, I survived domestic abuse as a child. Mostly when I went to

:49:32. > :49:35.school I was in deep shock or traumatised and I could not take in

:49:36. > :49:40.what the teacher was saying. They thought I had learning difficulties.

:49:41. > :49:46.Nobody helped, especially not our school, so I am relieved somebody is

:49:47. > :49:51.now deciding to help, and Liz is thoughtful and caring to stop this.

:49:52. > :49:57.Denise says, thank you to Lis and her husband Tom at this is hugely

:49:58. > :50:00.positive, I remember abuse happening, and my son has

:50:01. > :50:05.psychological effect which have broken my heart. Bring this into the

:50:06. > :50:10.open. Sarah says, I wanted to say how wonderful Operation Encompass

:50:11. > :50:15.sounds, I watched my mother and sisters be beaten when I was a

:50:16. > :50:20.child. Michael says, it is a shame nothing like this was available some

:50:21. > :50:23.time ago, my mother was a victim of domestic abuse, something which

:50:24. > :50:29.filtered to my brother and me. We removed to foster carers and build

:50:30. > :50:33.our lives, but we are both affected and events that happened those years

:50:34. > :50:38.ago. Help is hard to come by. It is good for kids now that there is

:50:39. > :50:42.something in help -- in place, but for children who suffered years ago,

:50:43. > :50:46.we continue to suffer. Thank you for those.

:50:47. > :50:49.FA chairman Greg Dyke says he's very concerned about the levels of French

:50:50. > :50:52.security and the safety of England fans ahead of the team's

:50:53. > :50:55.English and Russian supporters, who clashed violently

:50:56. > :50:58.at the weekend in Marseille, are expected to gather

:50:59. > :51:06.Uefa is investigating after Russia supporters went

:51:07. > :51:17.for England fans in the stadium after their draw on Saturday.

:51:18. > :51:20.Some Russian supporters are moving out of their area towards the

:51:21. > :51:21.England fans of. The trouble began in the stadium

:51:22. > :51:25.after flares were let off by Russian Some then climbed across pretty

:51:26. > :51:28.flimsy barriers designed A number of Russia supporters kicked

:51:29. > :51:32.and punched fleeing England fans, who were forced to clamber over

:51:33. > :51:36.fencing to escape. Uefa has threatened to ban both

:51:37. > :51:42.teams if there is further violence. We can speak to Dr Joel Rookwood,

:51:43. > :51:45.an expert in football hooliganism And in Compiegne in France

:51:46. > :52:07.is Mark Knapper and Tony Robinson, Tell us if you are worried. We would

:52:08. > :52:14.not want it to be repeated. Marseille was very hairy. Lots of

:52:15. > :52:20.people attacked, and not just in the ground, but outside. That is very

:52:21. > :52:26.worrying. There is no apparent police presence. I could not see one

:52:27. > :52:30.policeman in the ground, but when you came outside there were

:52:31. > :52:40.minibuses of police. Both of my kids were attacked, they are in their

:52:41. > :52:47.20s. The police came up and just discharged tear gas at everybody.

:52:48. > :52:56.Their response to any problem is so limited, and there is no

:52:57. > :52:59.differentiation between it. They will have seen the people attacking

:53:00. > :53:06.outside the ground with attackers -- balaclavas on. It is more likely

:53:07. > :53:13.they are doing the attacking. It has been scary.

:53:14. > :53:23.In terms of Thursday's game, you are near Lens, where will you be between

:53:24. > :53:27.now and then, because you want to avoid Russian supporters, who are

:53:28. > :53:31.playing tomorrow night? We have made a decision that on Thursday we will

:53:32. > :53:37.drive straight to the game, Park at the ground and then we will drive

:53:38. > :53:42.straight out afterwards. Ideally, we would like to mingle with the

:53:43. > :53:47.supporters, like we did in South Africa and other tournaments, but we

:53:48. > :53:58.are not able to do it, it is too volatile. We are stopping about 40,

:53:59. > :54:06.50 kilometres south of Lens, we are out of the way a bit at the moment.

:54:07. > :54:11.What has to change in terms of the safety of fans before Russia's game

:54:12. > :54:18.on Wednesday and England against Wales on Thursday? There has to be

:54:19. > :54:20.acknowledgement it is a significant problem. I don't think the

:54:21. > :54:26.authorities have clamped down on this effectively, they have not

:54:27. > :54:32.understood the scale of the problem. They have not responded effectively

:54:33. > :54:37.to the violence we have seen. If we don't see a change in police tactics

:54:38. > :54:42.in terms of how they treat fans and segregate them, we will see further

:54:43. > :54:48.problems in the north of France. Let's hope that does not happen. We

:54:49. > :55:02.wish you all the best, take care. It has been reported that the man

:55:03. > :55:06.who shot down 49 people in the gay nightclub in Orlando had been there

:55:07. > :55:08.regularly. Clubbers said they had seen him their drinking heavily and

:55:09. > :55:13.they said he used gay dating apps. We can talk now to Stephen McKinney,

:55:14. > :55:16.who knew one of the victims of the Orlando shooting,

:55:17. > :55:22.Louie Vielma. I wonder if you could tell us about

:55:23. > :55:44.your friend. Wonderful, 22, he worked at capital

:55:45. > :55:48.letter universal, Orlando. He was in my youth group as a youth leader, he

:55:49. > :55:58.started at the inception with Michelle Murphy as one of the youth

:55:59. > :56:03.team. Upon graduation, he became one of the youth leaders with my wife

:56:04. > :56:18.and myself. I cannot hear you. I wonder if we

:56:19. > :56:23.can persist, though. He knew one of the victims of the Orlando shooting.

:56:24. > :56:34.Try a game, keep talking and we will see if we can hear you.

:56:35. > :56:52.OK. I am really sorry, that is our fault, the line is not good enough.

:56:53. > :57:00.It is a shame, because we want to hear about him. I could tell you a

:57:01. > :57:04.bit about him, one of the victims of the shooting on Saturday night. He

:57:05. > :57:15.worked on the Harry Potter ride at universal Judeo 's. He is 22, he was

:57:16. > :57:18.a ride attendant. Only 22, goodness. One of the 49 killed at the

:57:19. > :57:26.nightclub when the gunmen opened fire inside. You might know that JK

:57:27. > :57:36.Rowling has tweeted about him, he worked on the Harry Potter ride, he

:57:37. > :57:39.was 22, I cannot stop crying. Let's return to the main story, the

:57:40. > :57:43.sentencing of Oscar Pistorius, he was found guilty of murdering his

:57:44. > :57:49.girlfriend and her father has been giving moving and emotional

:57:50. > :57:54.testimony this morning. Oscar has to pay for what he did. He

:57:55. > :58:13.has to pay for it. How should he pay for it? That is up

:58:14. > :58:18.to the court. It is up to the court, and we will go by the decision the

:58:19. > :58:24.court hands down. But he has to pay for his crime.

:58:25. > :58:29.We will keep you up-to-date with that live from South Africa across

:58:30. > :58:34.the day on BBC News. Have a good day, back tomorrow at 9am.