16/06/2016

:00:08. > :00:09.Hello it's Thursday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:10. > :00:22.Last night saw more tension in France at the European

:00:23. > :00:25.Championship - between English fans and French police in Lille,

:00:26. > :00:27.with tear gas, pepper spray and baton charges

:00:28. > :00:41.I'm Dan Brown, I'll be reporting live from Lille, where it is clear

:00:42. > :00:43.that French police last night simply lost patience with the behaviour of

:00:44. > :00:52.England fans, here. On the pitch this is finally the day

:00:53. > :00:56.everybody has been looking forward to, England play Wales. Northern

:00:57. > :00:58.Ireland face Ukraine in a match they simply cannot afford to lose.

:00:59. > :01:01.Also this morning, a special report on the hundreds of thousands

:01:02. > :01:04.of children in Romania whose parents have left them behind to seek work

:01:05. > :01:11.So this is a poster put up by Save The Children,

:01:12. > :01:14.and this means have you told the town hall who you've

:01:15. > :01:19.And it's because sometimes parents go

:01:20. > :01:22.overseas and they don't let the authorities know who's

:01:23. > :01:24.supposed to be looking after their children.

:01:25. > :01:26.And on the day that two health organisations call

:01:27. > :01:31.for the decriminalisation of drugs - a father who lost both his sons

:01:32. > :01:34.to ecstasy on the same night - says he agrees with them.

:01:35. > :01:48.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:49. > :01:53.I wonder if you're one of those who thinks the the Bank of England

:01:54. > :01:55.and the Treasury are quote - "peddling phoney forecasts" to scare

:01:56. > :01:57.people into voting to stay in the EU?

:01:58. > :01:59.That's what they're being accused of this morning.

:02:00. > :02:05.We'll have the details in just a moment.

:02:06. > :02:08.Plus on the EU ref - with a week to go -

:02:09. > :02:11.who's going to win - remain oe leave?

:02:12. > :02:17.If you're getting in touch use the hashtag Victoria

:02:18. > :02:19.Live and if you text, you will be charged

:02:20. > :02:24.Our top story today, 36 people have been arrested and 16 taken

:02:25. > :02:26.to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

:02:27. > :02:30.Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there

:02:31. > :02:32.ahead of the crucial European Championship game

:02:33. > :02:46.A day of relatively passive policing by the French ended long

:02:47. > :02:50.They played a game of cat and mouse with England fans,

:02:51. > :02:55.trying to disperse them with teargas.

:02:56. > :02:59.A few hundred England supporters had spent the day drinking

:03:00. > :03:07.One by one they were closed, keeping the fans mobile.

:03:08. > :03:09.They said they had done nothing wrong.

:03:10. > :03:13.Nothing was getting thrown, nothing being said, we were just

:03:14. > :03:21.Then all of a sudden a bang went off, police started charging

:03:22. > :03:24.towards us, my reaction was to grab my mate,

:03:25. > :03:30.Police closed in from all sides, scattering supporters.

:03:31. > :03:33.It wasn't clear why the riot officers moved in, but it was clear

:03:34. > :03:39.that they'd had enough of some English fans' behaviour.

:03:40. > :03:42.It's about midnight now and the England fans

:03:43. > :03:44.are being followed around by French riot police.

:03:45. > :03:54.But they are coming at them from all different angles.

:03:55. > :03:57.We have a line of riot police here, another line

:03:58. > :03:59.there and they are trying to keep English fans on the move.

:04:00. > :04:01.Not a good night for English supporters here.

:04:02. > :04:05.It doesn't put them in a good light at all.

:04:06. > :04:07.The concern had been about clashes with Russian supporters,

:04:08. > :04:10.but the reality was England fans versus the police.

:04:11. > :04:13.The worry now is that there will be more of this today.

:04:14. > :04:32.Good morning. Morning, Victoria. Well, a depressing morning here in

:04:33. > :04:37.Lille for England in the sense that the fans who were here last night,

:04:38. > :04:40.it was clear from what we could see, they were getting increasingly drunk

:04:41. > :04:46.through the evening. Setting off flares, taunting the police,

:04:47. > :04:50.climbing up some of the road signs in the city centre, smashing glass

:04:51. > :04:53.around the bars here. In the end the French riot police who had been

:04:54. > :04:58.trying to contain the fans throughout the evening simply lost

:04:59. > :05:03.patience, it seems. I think there was a feeling perhaps the police in

:05:04. > :05:08.Marseille had lost can't roll and the police in Lille didn't want to

:05:09. > :05:11.be seen to be losing control. This was not an issue with Russian fans,

:05:12. > :05:16.this was really England fans who had been drinking too much. The England

:05:17. > :05:19.fans, some of them have said the police tactics were too

:05:20. > :05:24.heavy-handed, they did not need to go in with tear gas and pepper

:05:25. > :05:27.spray. The French police believed they wanted to restore order and

:05:28. > :05:32.that's what they did. Let's talk to England fans who have just arrived

:05:33. > :05:36.in Lille for the game today against Wales in Lens just down the road.

:05:37. > :05:40.You are all from Wolverhampton, I think. I know you were not here last

:05:41. > :05:44.night and you did not see what happened and you were not involved,

:05:45. > :05:50.but what is your reaction to the news that there were 36 arrests and

:05:51. > :05:54.16 people in hospital? I think England fans are very passionate. It

:05:55. > :06:00.is not good news, it does not reflect fairly on our country. We

:06:01. > :06:04.have got such great support, we like to come out. All these guys are

:06:05. > :06:09.enjoying it. It is not seen is that we really want to see. So it is a

:06:10. > :06:13.minority causing the trouble? I think if it was a majority, so many

:06:14. > :06:18.people would not be coming here, they would be trying to avoid this

:06:19. > :06:22.city. Certainly it is a minority. The atmosphere is getting up now,

:06:23. > :06:26.we've just got to enjoy it, looking forward to a fantastic day. A

:06:27. > :06:32.fantastic day, but overshadowed by the trouble last night again. From

:06:33. > :06:41.what we heard and saw, the police presence were antagonising fans,

:06:42. > :06:48.really. Sue you blame the police? It doesn't help, wearing a riot gear

:06:49. > :06:51.and shields. It might look a little more intimidating to England fans

:06:52. > :06:56.than it is, but that's not excusing the ones who have been arrested,

:06:57. > :07:00.we're not here to be apologists for them. We do not want circumstances

:07:01. > :07:05.of that. We are just here to enjoy it. England fans, Welsh fans mixed

:07:06. > :07:08.in amongst each other, cheering on our teens, that's what it's about

:07:09. > :07:15.and what we should be concentrating on. I believe today we can restore

:07:16. > :07:19.some pride in our country. There was an appeal from Roy Hodgson and Wayne

:07:20. > :07:23.Rooney for England fans to behave, and it is important that they do,

:07:24. > :07:26.especially inside the stadium. England and Wales playing each

:07:27. > :07:31.other, you have seen the atmosphere. A lot of love between the countries.

:07:32. > :07:36.I would be surprised to see trouble at the grounds with the home

:07:37. > :07:41.nations. And what do you think of the game today, Ayew confident of an

:07:42. > :07:46.England victory? Confident is a word thrown around a bit too much today.

:07:47. > :07:53.Do I want us to win? Absolutely, but will we? I hope so. Three England

:07:54. > :07:59.fans from Wolverhampton who will be watching the game. Already be in the

:08:00. > :08:03.fans and many Wales fans in Lille are drinking in the past. There are

:08:04. > :08:09.supposed to be severe restrictions on alcohol sales and jinking in

:08:10. > :08:12.Lille but they seem to be flouted. Shops and supermarkets still selling

:08:13. > :08:17.beer and alcohol in pretty large quantities from what we've seen. Yet

:08:18. > :08:21.we had that warning from Roy Hodgson and the England captain Wayne Rooney

:08:22. > :08:25.for England fans to behave. Certainly last night here in the

:08:26. > :08:31.city centre of Lille, not all of them behaved. Many were not really a

:08:32. > :08:34.credits to England. We will be hoping that it comes down to night

:08:35. > :08:38.after the game. But clearly there are a lot of fans here, a lot of

:08:39. > :08:44.England fans in Lille who do not have tickets for the game in Lens

:08:45. > :08:46.and will be watching in bars here. Police will be keeping a watch on

:08:47. > :08:54.them. Thanks for the moment. We will talk to plenty more England

:08:55. > :08:58.and Wales supporters throughout the morning. The brasserie behind Ben

:08:59. > :09:03.was open with fans their drinking, weren't there?

:09:04. > :09:06.Let's get the rest of the news so far this morning, here's Annita.

:09:07. > :09:09.With exactly a week to go until voters decide whether the UK

:09:10. > :09:11.should stay in the European Union, both sides have been

:09:12. > :09:17.The Labour leaders of ten big cities outside London are warning

:09:18. > :09:20.their local economies would be put at risk by a British exit.

:09:21. > :09:22.In the Leave camp, four senior Conservatives have accused

:09:23. > :09:24.the Treasury of "peddling phoney forecasts" to frighten people

:09:25. > :09:33.Our political guru Norman Smith is in Westminster for us and can

:09:34. > :09:36.give us all the details on today's campaigning.

:09:37. > :09:43.Just when you think the level of accusation and acrimony cannot be

:09:44. > :09:47.ramped up more, it is. We used to senior Tories taking lumps out of

:09:48. > :09:53.senior Tories, and there was more of that this morning, these four senior

:09:54. > :09:56.Conservatives attacking George Osborne for what they call ludicrous

:09:57. > :10:01.scaremongering. What will strike most people is the fact they also

:10:02. > :10:03.leading to the Bank of England, the Treasury, the civil service and

:10:04. > :10:09.other official sources. Let me give you a sense of the language they

:10:10. > :10:17.use, talking about "Startling dishonesty" "Woeful failure to

:10:18. > :10:22.produce a fair, balanced picture" and "Peddling phoney forecasts".

:10:23. > :10:25.Number ten have expressed concern that the sort of criticism risks

:10:26. > :10:29.undermining these organisations which are meant to be out of the

:10:30. > :10:30.political frame. I put that charge to Michael Howard this morning and

:10:31. > :10:39.this is what he said. I'm afraid that the responsibility

:10:40. > :10:42.for that lies with the Remain side of this argument, they have dragged

:10:43. > :10:45.the Treasury and the Bank of England and others into this debate in a way

:10:46. > :10:50.which I think should not have happened. Since the forecast made by

:10:51. > :10:55.these bodies are fundamentally flawed, I think we have a duty to

:10:56. > :10:58.point that out. Does not mean that after this referendum these bodies

:10:59. > :11:03.are inevitably tarnished, their credibility undermined? I think

:11:04. > :11:07.there is a danger of that. I hope they can recover. I think it would

:11:08. > :11:11.be much better if they had stood aside from the debate and been

:11:12. > :11:16.impartial and that hasn't happened. And I hope that in time they will

:11:17. > :11:20.recover their reputations. But I think that given the flawed

:11:21. > :11:22.forecasts that many of them had put out, there is, I'm afraid, a bit of

:11:23. > :11:29.a danger of that. Former Labour Chancellor Alistair

:11:30. > :11:33.Darling has accused the Leave side of trying to intimidate people like

:11:34. > :11:39.the governor of the Bank of England, to muzzle them, to make sure they

:11:40. > :11:43.don't make further criticisms of the case believing the EU. Whereas the

:11:44. > :11:48.Leave side say these guys have got it wrong before. But also this

:11:49. > :11:50.criticism chimes with their attempt to present this referendum is a

:11:51. > :11:54.tussle between the establishment and ordinary voters.

:11:55. > :11:57.We'll be answer your questions on the EU Referendum to give

:11:58. > :12:02.you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts.

:12:03. > :12:08.If it's on the economy, immigration, or sovereignty we will answer them.

:12:09. > :12:12.The Conservative MP and former Chancellor Ken Clarke,

:12:13. > :12:15.who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be

:12:16. > :12:18.answering your questions at 1130 here on the BBC News Channel.

:12:19. > :12:21.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

:12:22. > :12:28.Thousands of girls and boys have been left behind in Romania,

:12:29. > :12:31.by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK.

:12:32. > :12:38.Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 children there have

:12:39. > :12:41.at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living

:12:42. > :12:44.EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel

:12:45. > :12:49.Later in the programme, we'll have a special report on some

:12:50. > :12:54.of those children separated from their families.

:12:55. > :13:03.If you were to say something to your mum about her going? I'd tell her

:13:04. > :13:12.that I love her, and I want to see her more often. It's not easy.

:13:13. > :13:13.Two leading public health organisations are calling

:13:14. > :13:16.for the possession and personal use of all illegal drugs to be

:13:17. > :13:24.The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health,

:13:25. > :13:26.say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed.

:13:27. > :13:30.The Home Office has defended its record,

:13:31. > :13:32.saying drug abuse has fallen in the last ten years.

:13:33. > :13:34.And coming up later in this morning's programme,

:13:35. > :13:38.Victoria will be talking to a father whose two sons both died on the same

:13:39. > :13:43.Wreckage from the EgyptAir jet that crashed into the Mediterranean last

:13:44. > :13:45.month has been found, according to Egyptian officials.

:13:46. > :13:48.The A320 disappeared from radar screens during a flight from Paris

:13:49. > :13:55.to Cairo with 66 people on board, without sending out a distress call.

:13:56. > :13:56.Investigators have discovered fuselage using

:13:57. > :14:05.Police divers have found the body of a toddler

:14:06. > :14:08.who was killed by an alligator at Walt Disney World in Florida.

:14:09. > :14:10.The two-year-old boy has been named as Lane Graves.

:14:11. > :14:14.He was dragged into a lagoon as he played on the shore on Tuesday

:14:15. > :14:16.evening, despite his parents' attempts to save him.

:14:17. > :14:18.Trappers have caught and killed a number of alligators around

:14:19. > :14:25.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:14:26. > :14:28.There are many of us looking forward to England Wales

:14:29. > :14:31.game this afternoon, my sons are a bit discombobulated

:14:32. > :14:35.about being at school and not being able to watch it live -

:14:36. > :14:37.but loads of you are telling your children's schools

:14:38. > :14:45.Jannine Walker says - Our school is allowing kids in kit

:14:46. > :14:48.for the match in the afternoon and parents to join for the second

:14:49. > :15:19.Who will know?! The headteacher, the form to discover the parents!

:15:20. > :15:25.Everyone will know! Let me know what is happening where you work, have

:15:26. > :15:27.you been given permission to watch this afternoon? Just use the

:15:28. > :15:29.hashtag. Here's Sally in Paris

:15:30. > :15:37.with the sport. I couldn't agree more, everybody at

:15:38. > :15:42.home, put on the TV at two beyond, at work, at school, it is worth

:15:43. > :15:45.watching -- at 2pm. We are hoping the focus will be on the football

:15:46. > :15:50.today, a creature of day for the three home nations. The match many

:15:51. > :15:54.across Britain have been looking forward to since December, when the

:15:55. > :15:56.draw came out, we knew this would happen, 2pm, England against Wales

:15:57. > :16:05.in Lens. Our correspondent Hywel Griffith

:16:06. > :16:17.is there, and Hywel a real sense Yes, a lot of fans here already, as

:16:18. > :16:20.well as the classic British weather! The focus now hopefully is on what

:16:21. > :16:26.happens on the field and hearing from both camps yesterday on a bit

:16:27. > :16:29.of tension for England, with only one point going into the game so a

:16:30. > :16:34.win would make a difference. Wales, three points on the board, having

:16:35. > :16:38.beaten Slovakia, their feeling is a lot more relaxed giving giving into

:16:39. > :16:44.this game. Inevitably there has been some wind up in the build-up, Gareth

:16:45. > :16:49.Bale is talking about the Welsh players having more passion, that

:16:50. > :16:54.may having struck a nerve in the England camp, but this is a big

:16:55. > :16:57.occasion for Britain. Many people in England and Great

:16:58. > :17:01.Britain looking forward to this game. We certainly are, perhaps even

:17:02. > :17:08.around the world, the fact that it is a game between brothers, if you

:17:09. > :17:15.like, it adds spice to it, adds interest. It is something which I

:17:16. > :17:19.can only welcome, really. If anything, it heightens the occasion,

:17:20. > :17:24.rather than lessons it. Whatever is going on around England, and there

:17:25. > :17:27.is a lot going on, there is a lot of -- a lot expected of them because

:17:28. > :17:30.they have had great players down the years, there has been expectancy

:17:31. > :17:33.around England every time they coming to a tournament, there is a

:17:34. > :17:40.lot of pressure on England, and that is what I meant, we don't want to

:17:41. > :17:45.get caught up with that. As soon as this game was on the menu, we knew

:17:46. > :17:49.what was coming before it starts. Chris Coleman they're saying really

:17:50. > :17:52.the pressure is on England, however the pressure in the Welsh country

:17:53. > :17:55.comes with them having beaten Belgium to get into this

:17:56. > :17:59.competition. Wales are confident they can perform in the big game but

:18:00. > :18:07.England go in as favourites with the attacking threat of Fardy

:18:08. > :18:10.potentially starting, we are waiting for the team news, Roy Hodgson did

:18:11. > :18:15.not give anything away yesterday. For the Welsh team news, goalkeeper

:18:16. > :18:19.rain Hennessey is still an injury doubt, we won't know until close to

:18:20. > :18:23.kick-off whether or not he will start.

:18:24. > :18:25.And it looks like the rain is setting for the day. I think you go

:18:26. > :18:28.and get dry! It's a big day for

:18:29. > :18:30.Northern Ireland too. Defeat to Poland in Nice last

:18:31. > :18:33.weekend has given them an uphill struggle if they're to make

:18:34. > :18:35.the next stage. Based near Lyon, they play Ukraine

:18:36. > :18:37.there this afternoon and manager Michael O'Neill knows

:18:38. > :18:47.the pressure is on. Having lost the first game, I think

:18:48. > :18:50.there is a natural fear of, when do you go home? I think other countries

:18:51. > :18:55.will feel the same so we have to make sure that is the motivating

:18:56. > :19:01.factor, and I have no doubt it will be, we love our base, we want to

:19:02. > :19:06.stay there as long as we can! We want to make sure tomorrow night

:19:07. > :19:10.that we play like a cup final because we know the significance of

:19:11. > :19:14.three points. That is all from Paris, the final

:19:15. > :19:17.Match Of The Day sees Germany take on Poland at the start of France,

:19:18. > :19:24.just a few miles from here. It could be a lively evening.

:19:25. > :19:27.For a parent, losing a child is tragic.

:19:28. > :19:30.Losing both of your children together is unthinkable.

:19:31. > :19:35.But in November 2014, that's what happened to Ray Lakeman.

:19:36. > :19:39.His sons Jacques, who was 20, and Torin, who was 19,

:19:40. > :19:42.had met up to spend the weekend together and watch a football match.

:19:43. > :19:45.Two days later they were found dead, together, in the B

:19:46. > :19:53.Today, two high-profile health organisations,

:19:54. > :19:57.the Royal Society for Public Health and the Faculty of Public Health,

:19:58. > :19:59.are calling for the personal possession and use of all illegal

:20:00. > :20:06.They say the so-called 'war on drugs' has failed,

:20:07. > :20:08.although they say that dealers must still be prosecuted.

:20:09. > :20:14.It's a stance Ray Lakeman agrees with.

:20:15. > :20:21.Good morning to you, thank you for coming on to our programme. Tell us

:20:22. > :20:24.why you believe the use of drugs and personal possession should be

:20:25. > :20:34.decriminalised? It is quite clear to me that young people are taking

:20:35. > :20:39.drugs. It is part of their culture. They are dangerous, we know they are

:20:40. > :20:44.dangerous, but it isn't stopping them. The only way that we can stop

:20:45. > :20:49.deaths like my children is to regulate the drugs so that they know

:20:50. > :20:55.exactly what it is they are taking. And reduce the risk of accidental

:20:56. > :20:58.overdoses. You would go further than what the two health organisations

:20:59. > :21:01.are saying, they want decriminalisation of the use of

:21:02. > :21:05.illegal drugs but you are saying legalise all drugs? I'm happy with

:21:06. > :21:10.what they are saying, decriminalising it. I think part of

:21:11. > :21:14.the problem when it comes to debating drug usage is the fact that

:21:15. > :21:18.it is criminalised so people are not open and honest about what they are

:21:19. > :21:21.doing. If you want to educate children, talk to your children

:21:22. > :21:27.about what is going on, it is a lot easier if they can say, I'm taking

:21:28. > :21:32.this, I'm taking back, and they are not naming themselves as being

:21:33. > :21:36.criminals. You will never know, but could it have made a difference to

:21:37. > :21:43.your sons? We did talk to them about the dangers of drugs, obviously it

:21:44. > :21:47.didn't stop them doing it. I think that, had they known exactly what it

:21:48. > :21:51.was they were taking, they took a powdered form, had they known

:21:52. > :21:56.exactly how strong it was, what the quantity was, it was probably about

:21:57. > :22:01.15 doses, something like that, they would not have taken it. As far as

:22:02. > :22:05.we can see, they took this packet, divided it up in two and took half

:22:06. > :22:11.of the each, and that was enough to kill them. When did you find out

:22:12. > :22:16.what had happened? We knew on the Sunday, they went to the football on

:22:17. > :22:20.the Saturday, Torin was going back to Aberystwyth, where he was at

:22:21. > :22:24.university, and Jacques was staying with his grandmother in London, he

:22:25. > :22:32.had just got a job in London. He was due back at about 4:30pm, 5:30pm,

:22:33. > :22:36.and I rang my mother at 6:30pm as I did unusual and she said he had not

:22:37. > :22:40.come back but she was expecting him as they were going out that evening.

:22:41. > :22:46.Immediately I thought there was something wrong because being a

:22:47. > :22:49.teenager he is always likely to let me and his mother down but he would

:22:50. > :22:54.never let his grandmother down, so as soon as she said he hadn't turned

:22:55. > :22:58.up we knew something had gone wrong. Try to contact them on their mobile

:22:59. > :23:06.phones and got nothing, and the longer it went on the more concerned

:23:07. > :23:13.we became. It was about midnight I think, I finally got contacted by

:23:14. > :23:16.Manchester police, to see whether they had got arrested or something

:23:17. > :23:20.like that, that was the best we could hope for, or that they had had

:23:21. > :23:23.an accident and way hospital, but that was not the case so I reported

:23:24. > :23:29.them missing almost straightaway. It was not until 8pm on the Monday that

:23:30. > :23:34.we had confirmation what had happened. And they were together in

:23:35. > :23:41.the room they were staying in? They were not found until 2:30pm on the

:23:42. > :23:46.Monday. I don't know how you coped with that, Ray. It was very, very

:23:47. > :23:53.difficult. The whole day was difficult. After that, things were a

:23:54. > :23:56.bit of a blur. To be honest, we came to terms with it fairly quickly,

:23:57. > :24:02.about what had happened, although my wife still expected them to turn up

:24:03. > :24:10.at any minute. Expecting them to come through the door. Even though

:24:11. > :24:17.we know they are upstairs, their ashes are upstairs in little boxes.

:24:18. > :24:21.You said you had tried to talk to them about drugs, did you know that

:24:22. > :24:29.they dabbled or had tried them? We knew Jacques had... The older one?

:24:30. > :24:33.Yes, we tried to talk to him about it but he would categorically deny

:24:34. > :24:38.he had taken any drugs even though it was obvious by his behaviour that

:24:39. > :24:42.he had taken them. He did actually have a couple of incidents where he

:24:43. > :24:49.collapsed and we had to get an ambulance and taken to hospital.

:24:50. > :24:52.Torin was there to witness this, so we were fairly... He was quite angry

:24:53. > :24:57.with his brother, calling him all the names under the sun, stupid and

:24:58. > :25:01.things like that, so we were fairly confident that he would never go

:25:02. > :25:05.anywhere near drugs. I'm sure that his interest came when he went to

:25:06. > :25:10.university and he was with other students and things like that who

:25:11. > :25:16.were indulging and things like that, tried them aren't obviously enjoyed

:25:17. > :25:19.it. As many people do. Yes, and we have to accept, whether we like it

:25:20. > :25:25.or not, we have to accept that is the case, that is what is happening.

:25:26. > :25:31.People need to know that their children are probably indulging.

:25:32. > :25:35.This could happen to them. My boys were bright, intelligent, creative.

:25:36. > :25:40.They knew the risks, they knew it was dangerous. I would love to be

:25:41. > :25:44.able to turn around and say, drugs are dangerous, they can kill you,

:25:45. > :25:50.let's have them banned, and that. It. But it is not the case, they are

:25:51. > :25:53.banned and it has not stopped it. Let's just work through with you

:25:54. > :25:59.your view that legalising them would be better, they would be regulated,

:26:00. > :26:05.powder wouldn't be mixed up with goodness knows what, bleach and

:26:06. > :26:08.whatever else, and it would be, what, sold over-the-counter at

:26:09. > :26:14.chemists, on prescription, what? What are you thinking? I really

:26:15. > :26:19.haven't thought that much about it. I do think people in the medical

:26:20. > :26:24.profession would support this stance as well, it is difficult for them to

:26:25. > :26:30.say so. I would envisage probably across the counter as much of

:26:31. > :26:35.anything else, actually have regulated shops, things like that,

:26:36. > :26:40.go and get it from a chemist. So then you could have drugs and I

:26:41. > :26:45.could take drugs, and my kids, when they are 18, could take drugs, would

:26:46. > :26:51.that be all right? Well, if they want to, they are going to. Nobody

:26:52. > :26:54.is forcing them to take them, but they are taking them, and they are

:26:55. > :26:58.going to continue taking them regardless of the risks. All we can

:26:59. > :27:06.do is make it as safe as we possibly can, because I don't think... The

:27:07. > :27:10.war on drugs is lost. It would be lovely to say they are banned. It

:27:11. > :27:14.did not work with alcohol, why on earth do we persist in believing it

:27:15. > :27:19.is going to work with all of these other things? These health

:27:20. > :27:23.organisations today are saying we need to treat this as a health issue

:27:24. > :27:30.rather than a criminal issue, and treat people who take drugs, move

:27:31. > :27:35.the drugs strategy from the Home Office to the Department of Health,

:27:36. > :27:39.have drugs education universally in schools up and down the land. What

:27:40. > :27:44.do you think of that? People take drugs for various reasons, there are

:27:45. > :27:51.people who are self-medicating by doing this. They are being

:27:52. > :27:55.criminalised. If you are in that situation, I don't think you should

:27:56. > :28:01.be treated as a criminal. I do think you should be treated, I think it

:28:02. > :28:06.should be decriminalised, get help and support. Education is fine but

:28:07. > :28:11.there is already education, there are already messages out there that

:28:12. > :28:17.drugs are dangerous. As I said, it isn't stopping people. I wish it

:28:18. > :28:24.would, but it won't. What do you say to parents who might be watching

:28:25. > :28:28.now, and those younger who use drugs recreationally, what do you say to

:28:29. > :28:34.them about talking to teenagers, to their young adult children about

:28:35. > :28:39.drugs? By all means warm them, talk to them about the dangers, but be

:28:40. > :28:45.aware that, with the situation as it is, they may not be open with you.

:28:46. > :28:50.They might deny it, like Jacques did? I would say almost certainly.

:28:51. > :28:53.If we want to discuss it, if you want to discuss it with your

:28:54. > :28:58.children, even teachers in school, the children are not going to be

:28:59. > :29:04.open about what they are doing, saying, I'm taking this or that,

:29:05. > :29:08.what would happen if I took this? They leave themselves open to being

:29:09. > :29:11.criminalised, so they are not going to tell you what they are doing. It

:29:12. > :29:19.is also part of growing up, they want to keep things from their

:29:20. > :29:24.parents, and this kind of attitude response is part of being a

:29:25. > :29:29.teenager, part of growing up. As you say, Jacques went into hospital

:29:30. > :29:34.twice after drugs incidents so it was clear he was using them. I

:29:35. > :29:41.wonder why you think that wasn't enough to deter him from then

:29:42. > :29:46.continuing to use drugs? In his case it could well have been a coping

:29:47. > :29:53.mechanism for things that were going gone, but there was no doubt that he

:29:54. > :29:56.enjoyed the experience. Even though he was hospitalised, and obviously

:29:57. > :30:02.he knew that it was risky, he was told by the doctors and things like

:30:03. > :30:06.that the stuff that he was taking was dangerous. When this happened

:30:07. > :30:09.they put him in touch with drugs and alcohol people who talked to him,

:30:10. > :30:15.put him on a programme, this that and the other, but once again it was

:30:16. > :30:19.easy for him to turn around and say, I'm OK now, I'm over that. And then

:30:20. > :30:27.they would drop the programme, and then a while later he is back again.

:30:28. > :30:31.There is also the invincibility approach, we probably all have it

:30:32. > :30:35.when we are young, you think, it is not going to happen to me. I think

:30:36. > :30:39.what happened to my boys, people are turning round to say, it happened to

:30:40. > :30:47.them, it won't happen to me, the chances of it happening to me are

:30:48. > :30:50.very few, because it has happened... They are playing Russian roulette

:30:51. > :30:54.every time they are doing this. I just want to make it safer, I don't

:30:55. > :30:56.want anybody else to go through what I'm going through. Thank you very

:30:57. > :30:59.much for talking to us. We'll talk to England and Wales fans

:31:00. > :31:05.about the trouble in Lille last night and the football match due

:31:06. > :31:08.to take place in Lens And we have a special report

:31:09. > :31:12.from Romania on the hundreds of thousands of children there whose

:31:13. > :31:15.parents have left them Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:31:16. > :31:28.with a summary of todays news. 36 people have been arrested and 16

:31:29. > :31:33.taken to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

:31:34. > :31:36.in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had

:31:37. > :31:39.been gathering there ahead of the crucial European Championship

:31:40. > :31:41.game between the teams With exactly a week to go

:31:42. > :31:48.until voters decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union,

:31:49. > :31:50.both sides are stepping up their campaigning

:31:51. > :31:55.around the country. Former prime minister Gordon Brown

:31:56. > :31:59.will campaign in Manchester later and the Labour leaders of ten big

:32:00. > :32:02.cities outside London are warning that their local economies would be

:32:03. > :32:05.put at risk by a British exit. In the Leave camp, four senior

:32:06. > :32:09.Conservatives have accused the Treasury of "peddling phoney

:32:10. > :32:11.forecasts" to frighten people Thousands of girls and boys have

:32:12. > :32:19.been left behind in Romania, by parents who are working abroad -

:32:20. > :32:21.many in the UK. Save the Children Romania says that

:32:22. > :32:24.350,000 children there have at least one parent working abroad,

:32:25. > :32:27.while four in ten are living EU migration laws allow Romanian

:32:28. > :32:31.adults to travel Later in the programme,

:32:32. > :32:37.we'll have a special report on some of those children separated

:32:38. > :32:39.from their families. Two leading public health

:32:40. > :32:41.organisations are calling for the possession and personal use

:32:42. > :32:44.of all illegal drugs to be The Royal Society for Public Health,

:32:45. > :32:54.and the Faculty of Public Health, say the government's approach

:32:55. > :32:56.to drugs policy has failed, and there should be more focus

:32:57. > :32:58.on treatment and education. The Home Office has

:32:59. > :33:00.defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen

:33:01. > :33:04.in the last decade. Russia has been accused of trying

:33:05. > :33:07.to stop officials from carrying out The World Anti-Doping Agency says

:33:08. > :33:13.Russian security services have It comes as Russia is due to find

:33:14. > :33:20.out if it will be allowed to send That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:21. > :33:37.News - more at 10.00 Couple of comments about the

:33:38. > :33:42.interview with Ray Lakeman. What a measured man, says Tom on Twitter.

:33:43. > :33:46.He'd have every right to hold the opposite view, losing both sons in

:33:47. > :33:50.such circumstances. And Mel says, it's so sad to listen to Ray talking

:33:51. > :33:56.about losing his sons to ecstasy, it's heartbreaking.

:33:57. > :34:00.Here's some sport now with Sally in Paris.

:34:01. > :34:06.It's the day a large proportion of the country have been waiting for,

:34:07. > :34:11.England against Wales in Lens. England cannot afford another

:34:12. > :34:13.slip-up after only drawing their opening match. Wales know they could

:34:14. > :34:18.qualify for the knockout phase with a win. Big day from Northern

:34:19. > :34:23.Ireland, they lost their opening match against Poland. They face

:34:24. > :34:29.Ukraine and cannot afford another defeat in Lyon. Kyle Edmonds notched

:34:30. > :34:33.up the best win of his career, beating French eighth seed Jill

:34:34. > :34:41.Simon at Queens yesterday. Another win today against Mathieu would see

:34:42. > :34:43.him face the winner of Andy Murray's match.

:34:44. > :34:45.As we've been hearing, there was more violence

:34:46. > :34:50.between football supporters on the streets of Lille last night

:34:51. > :34:53.after the Russia Slovakia game, and ahead of the England Wales game

:34:54. > :34:54.this afternoon just down the road in Lens.

:34:55. > :34:57.There were 36 were arrests and 16 people were taken to hospital.

:34:58. > :35:00.Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there.

:35:01. > :35:02.Police are just following the English fans around.

:35:03. > :35:05.They're throwing some fire crackers but they just pushing supporters

:35:06. > :35:09.They're not actually detaining anyone.

:35:10. > :35:19.They're just following them around the city centre.

:35:20. > :35:21.French police played a game of cat and mouse with England fans,

:35:22. > :35:26.many of whom had spent the day drinking in bars.

:35:27. > :35:29.As the evening wore on the bars were closed, meaning the fans

:35:30. > :35:34.They insisted they hadn't done anything wrong.

:35:35. > :35:40.None of us were causing trouble, nothing was being thrown. Nothing

:35:41. > :35:45.was being said really. We were just having a drink at this bar. All of a

:35:46. > :35:49.sudden a bang went off, police started charging towards us. My

:35:50. > :35:54.reaction was, grab my mate and ran down this road. That's as far as I

:35:55. > :35:57.know. We heard a bang and the police started charging. What were the

:35:58. > :36:02.England fans doing, being boisterous? They were just singing

:36:03. > :36:03.here. Then there was an absolute wall of them with riot shields and

:36:04. > :36:06.they started charging. There were also Russian supporters

:36:07. > :36:08.causing trouble in Lille. The ex-England footballer,

:36:09. > :36:10.Stan Collymore, posted The ex-England footballer, Stan

:36:11. > :36:20.Collymore, posted a video online. Russian fans throwing things.

:36:21. > :36:37.Russian fans throwing bottles. Russian fans throwing things. Yes,

:36:38. > :36:42.him! Him! Throwing bottles. Journalist! You were throwing

:36:43. > :36:52.bottles! Yes! Lets talk to various England and

:36:53. > :36:57.Wales fans either out there or on their way at least. Billy Grant,

:36:58. > :37:02.let's start with you, where were you last night and what did you see?

:37:03. > :37:06.Last night I was in Lille, I got there yesterday afternoon at 1:30pm.

:37:07. > :37:10.Very chilled, nice, relaxed atmosphere when we arrived. Russia

:37:11. > :37:16.were playing Slovakia so most of the fans were in the stadium. But it was

:37:17. > :37:22.a very relaxed atmosphere. Very different to down south. Then

:37:23. > :37:27.afterwards, as time got on, as they came out of the stadium, I didn't

:37:28. > :37:33.go, but my colleague said he saw some activity. He saw some fights

:37:34. > :37:38.happening. He could tell there were tensions starting to rise. What I

:37:39. > :37:41.did yesterday to be honest, we headed out of it. We were in an area

:37:42. > :37:47.ten minutes walk from the main square, just round the corner. So it

:37:48. > :37:51.was easy to get away from it if you wanted to? Absolutely. Full of

:37:52. > :37:57.French and English where we were. No problems. To be honest you probably

:37:58. > :38:01.know more about what is going on in Lille than I do. It is all on social

:38:02. > :38:06.media so we can all catch up with what is happening. But I take your

:38:07. > :38:08.point, you could walk away and find perfectly friendly foreign

:38:09. > :38:17.supporters mingling together. Indeed. We filmed a documentary

:38:18. > :38:20.three months ago where we came out to Marseille and spoke to the

:38:21. > :38:24.Marseille culture is about England coming to Marseille for the first

:38:25. > :38:31.time since 98. Their point they said to us was, it was a long time ago,

:38:32. > :38:35.yes, but Marseille people never forget. Potentially a time for

:38:36. > :38:38.revenge. One personal point they said, they are very worried about

:38:39. > :38:44.this because the police are incompetent. Their way of policing

:38:45. > :38:50.us, they just ban us from matters. If we play PSG they won't let us go.

:38:51. > :38:54.If we go down to Lyon, we can't go there. That's their way of dealing

:38:55. > :38:58.with it, and they said it's rubbish, what will happen in the Euros, you

:38:59. > :39:02.cannot ban them. They believed they would not handle the fans. It is a

:39:03. > :39:07.pertinent issue, the way the police have been dealing with it,

:39:08. > :39:10.indiscriminately tear gas and people, putting people's backs up

:39:11. > :39:15.and stuff, there are people who may be doing other things but in general

:39:16. > :39:19.the travelling people are good, travelling people and the police do

:39:20. > :39:23.not deal with it in the same way our British police do. And that's the

:39:24. > :39:28.point some England supporters did make who were right in the centre of

:39:29. > :39:31.Lille. Thanks for the moment. Let's talk to some England fans who are

:39:32. > :39:39.travelling to watch their team hopefully win this afternoon. Louise

:39:40. > :39:44.is on a train from Paris. I am a Welsh van. I can see that, it is

:39:45. > :39:50.very clear. I am half English, half Welsh, but I have gone with Wales.

:39:51. > :39:54.OK, why? My grandfather played rugby for Wales. So we have always been

:39:55. > :39:58.told to support Wales. And what are your expectations for this

:39:59. > :40:03.afternoon? I went to the game in Bordeaux last week. So quite high

:40:04. > :40:06.now, I think we could do it. I wouldn't have said it before the

:40:07. > :40:12.tournament, but we played pretty well so we will definitely win. Or

:40:13. > :40:18.so we have got Ffion on a coachload of Welsh fans. Can you hear me or

:40:19. > :40:26.write? Hello, good morning. How are you feeling right now? Quite

:40:27. > :40:32.excited. On the bus from Paris to Lens, ten buses in convoy, excited.

:40:33. > :40:36.Are you happy Gareth Bale has wound up the England team and plenty of

:40:37. > :40:40.supporters by saying the Welsh players are more passionate than the

:40:41. > :40:45.English? Yeah, he's been great this week. He knows what to say. We are

:40:46. > :40:53.all very passionate fans. Couldn't agree more with him. Let me bring in

:40:54. > :40:58.Steve and Ian. You are both in Lille. What did you see last night?

:40:59. > :41:02.I got a completely different story from what everybody else has been

:41:03. > :41:07.saying for five or ten minutes. We were not in the centre of Lille, we

:41:08. > :41:11.were two or three Metro stops away, perhaps 20 minutes away I expect. We

:41:12. > :41:17.got a completely different atmosphere here. We were intending

:41:18. > :41:20.on staying in with a few drinks and watching the telly, but there were a

:41:21. > :41:26.couple of bars next door to us, great atmosphere and the locals were

:41:27. > :41:33.really good fun. We had a sing and dance afterwards outside. I managed

:41:34. > :41:40.to acquire some paraphernalia, got a French scarf here somewhere. Just

:41:41. > :41:44.really happy, fun atmosphere. You'd never know that violence was

:41:45. > :41:48.happening a couple of miles away in the centre. Ian, I wonder what you

:41:49. > :41:55.are expecting for this afternoon, then come in terms of the England

:41:56. > :41:58.and Wales fans getting together? England and Wales fans have already

:41:59. > :42:03.been together in the bars and there has been no trouble whatsoever. We

:42:04. > :42:07.are about a 15 minute walk away from the centre, watching the game last

:42:08. > :42:17.night and the atmosphere was fantastic. Full of French. No

:42:18. > :42:23.problems. Really good atmosphere. Lots of English and lots of

:42:24. > :42:26.different people, no trouble. Escorted from the railway station

:42:27. > :42:31.very quickly before we were back here at the hotel where we have been

:42:32. > :42:37.staying for the last four days. Steve, after the game is over,

:42:38. > :42:43.that's when people will carry on drinking and celebrating depending

:42:44. > :42:47.on what the outcome is, obviously. Do you think that it's going to stay

:42:48. > :42:54.friendly? Or does that depend on how the police behave? Bit of both, I.

:42:55. > :43:00.The English guys I've been speaking to the last couple of days, a couple

:43:01. > :43:04.last night as well, we just can't understand where the silence is

:43:05. > :43:07.coming from. I work with English people, I've got an English

:43:08. > :43:12.girlfriend, I don't see any animosity. We've just got that small

:43:13. > :43:18.element, wherever it is English Welsh, French Russian, who just want

:43:19. > :43:21.to have a bit of a fight. It is sad that it follows football around.

:43:22. > :43:24.Football is so big and they have attached themselves to it. The large

:43:25. > :43:29.majority of people will just have some friendly banter, Win, lose,

:43:30. > :43:31.whatever. But you will get that small element. And from what I've

:43:32. > :43:37.heard the French police have been quite heavy-handed. I can sympathise

:43:38. > :43:42.with them. They've got their city and country to look after. Perhaps

:43:43. > :43:46.with the terror threat as well. They've just had enough and want to

:43:47. > :43:52.be rid of us all. I think they lost patience a bit last night. Thank you

:43:53. > :43:55.all very much. Have a good time this afternoon. Thanks, we'll do. Thank

:43:56. > :44:02.you very much, all of you. The extraordinary account of one

:44:03. > :44:05.of the last surviving Second World War tank troop

:44:06. > :44:08.commanders - David Render tells us Next to Romania - walk into any

:44:09. > :44:14.school in that country and you're likely to find a fair few pupils

:44:15. > :44:18.whose parents are working abroad. Some schools even display posters

:44:19. > :44:21.urging adults to let the authorities know who will be looking

:44:22. > :44:23.after their children According to Save The Children,

:44:24. > :44:26.up to 350,000 children in Romania In around 40% of cases,

:44:27. > :44:31.both parents have left. EU migration laws allow Romanians

:44:32. > :44:34.to travel across Europe to find well-paid work - something that has

:44:35. > :44:37.become a big part of the debate Do any of you guys have mum or dad

:44:38. > :44:54.or both working overseas? One, two, three, four,

:44:55. > :45:01.five, six, seven, eight. Could you tell me where

:45:02. > :45:02.they are working? So this is the flight

:45:03. > :45:16.from London Luton to Becau Just about everyone works

:45:17. > :45:21.in the UK and is going back In terms of the difference

:45:22. > :45:30.between salaries and the life, it is at least three times better

:45:31. > :45:34.than back home. I got very used to the UK,

:45:35. > :45:43.so it is like my home now, so it is really when I am going back

:45:44. > :45:47.to Romania it feels like a holiday, In January 2014, Romanians gained

:45:48. > :45:53.the same rights to work in the UK Around 180,000 work in the UK

:45:54. > :45:58.at the moment and across the whole of the EU

:45:59. > :46:08.that is approximately 3 million. This part of Romania

:46:09. > :46:10.is the third-poorest region We are in north-east Romania now,

:46:11. > :46:19.the county of Vaslui. There is no industry, the roads

:46:20. > :46:25.and infrastructure is very poor. The authorities don't have enough

:46:26. > :46:35.money to invest, they have limited budget and on the other

:46:36. > :46:37.hand there is corruption They work on the land or build

:46:38. > :46:48.houses for those who earn enough Those that are qualified work

:46:49. > :46:57.elsewhere because here there are no We're heading to a town called

:46:58. > :47:05.Negresti, a town where much Around 200 have parents

:47:06. > :47:23.working overseas. Across Romania, Save The Children

:47:24. > :47:26.estimate there are 350,000 children They're usually left to live

:47:27. > :47:36.with the remaining parent or other So this is a poster put up

:47:37. > :47:44.by Save The Children and this means, "Have you told the town

:47:45. > :47:47.hall who you have left This is because sometimes parents go

:47:48. > :47:51.overseas and they don't let the authorities know who is supposed

:47:52. > :47:53.to be looking after So, how many people in here

:47:54. > :47:59.have a mum or dad working overseas? One, two, three, four,

:48:00. > :48:02.five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where

:48:03. > :48:05.they are working? It means I have to go home and do

:48:06. > :48:27.cleaning and cooking. You have to be

:48:28. > :48:29.a grown-up? What is the economic situation

:48:30. > :48:41.for people living here? In Negresti, for example,

:48:42. > :48:46.out of 7000 people only Because mainly

:48:47. > :49:03.salaries are very low. Wages are very low and if they have

:49:04. > :49:08.good qualifications they prefer to work abroad,

:49:09. > :49:13.where they are better paid and they have a better chance

:49:14. > :49:17.of supporting their families here. That means there are still 6000

:49:18. > :49:20.people here not working at all, Some of them are supported

:49:21. > :49:24.by the state and mainly most of them rely on the

:49:25. > :49:28.relatives working abroad. So what sort of problems do you see

:49:29. > :49:31.in the students whose The main problem is that some

:49:32. > :49:39.of them drop out of school, some of them get involved

:49:40. > :49:42.in all kinds of difficult situations for them,

:49:43. > :49:46.maybe drugs, prostitution. They become bullies

:49:47. > :49:52.because they lack their It is mainly the government's fault

:49:53. > :50:03.because they don't do enough I cannot judge the parents

:50:04. > :50:12.for going abroad, they are trying I'm not complaining,

:50:13. > :50:24.I'm just saying. I won't complain because if I do

:50:25. > :50:29.complain, nothing will change very soon, this is how things work

:50:30. > :50:34.in this part of the world. As long as the government doesn't do

:50:35. > :50:39.anything regarding the development of the area, nothing

:50:40. > :50:44.is going to change. He is not exaggerating,

:50:45. > :50:53.unemployment in this town is recorded at more than 80%,

:50:54. > :50:56.the population is around 7000. Over the last 20 years,

:50:57. > :51:06.around 3000 people left. This has become such an issue that

:51:07. > :51:08.Romania's Eurovision entry last year Because there are so many Romanian

:51:09. > :51:28.children with parents overseas, Save The Children have opened up 17

:51:29. > :51:39.centres like this one in schools across the country, and they offer

:51:40. > :51:43.things like help with homework and psychological support for people

:51:44. > :51:45.whose parents are not What sort of issues have

:51:46. > :51:52.you seen among the children? Starting with minor problems

:51:53. > :51:53.such as self-isolation, reluctance to communicate,

:51:54. > :51:57.to really severe psychological Unfortunately there are some tragic

:51:58. > :52:01.cases, fortunately just a few. People usually associate

:52:02. > :52:12.Save The Children's work with emergency work,

:52:13. > :52:13.children who are fleeing war This is just a missing parent,

:52:14. > :52:19.is it the same thing? Of course, it is very

:52:20. > :52:23.serious for these children. We have different crises from period

:52:24. > :52:25.to period, street children, economically exploited

:52:26. > :52:30.children, premature children. But this is a major crisis

:52:31. > :52:35.situation for these children. Do you miss your

:52:36. > :52:36.parents? The parents are away,

:52:37. > :52:50.we have a big gap. I have a better relationship

:52:51. > :52:57.with my mum who is overseas and now I am staying with my

:52:58. > :53:01.dad, it is just... Because I often argue with my dad,

:53:02. > :53:05.but that is OK, he loves me, Do you understand why

:53:06. > :53:17.they have to work overseas? Yes, because we need money

:53:18. > :53:22.and here we have no possibilities. If you were to say something

:53:23. > :53:27.to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that

:53:28. > :53:29.I love her and I want These are the critical

:53:30. > :54:06.years for normal, healthy They need that person,

:54:07. > :54:14.the closest person, which is the parent,

:54:15. > :54:17.to lean on and to communicate Emma is 18, both her parents

:54:18. > :54:36.and her brother live She says the only reason she has

:54:37. > :54:41.been able to stay in school in Romania is because her parents can

:54:42. > :54:44.support her with their British jobs. How is it having them

:54:45. > :54:59.work so far away? While we are speaking,

:55:00. > :55:02.Emma gets a call from her dad in Luton to tell her her mum has

:55:03. > :55:06.made her flight and she is coming Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK

:55:07. > :55:16.for almost three years. She works

:55:17. > :55:19.for Amazon, her husband in a bakery. What does it feel like when you see

:55:20. > :55:22.your mum again for the first It is cool, you are matching,

:55:23. > :56:11.did you coordinate your outfits? How is it seeing each other

:56:12. > :56:40.after some time away? How much better was the wage

:56:41. > :56:56.you could get in Luton What I can get for one month,

:56:57. > :57:05.I have to work in Romania Do you understand that a lot

:57:06. > :57:23.of children left behind Do you feel any guilt

:57:24. > :57:47.for leaving her behind? I have motive, I do it

:57:48. > :57:58.for her to have good life. When she's finished school,

:57:59. > :58:21.Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study

:58:22. > :58:27.to be a psychologist. And you can share that film

:58:28. > :58:32.by going to bbc.co.uk/victoria. Later in the programme we'll talk

:58:33. > :58:35.to one Romanian mum She's a window cleaner

:58:36. > :58:41.and her husband is a window fitter - both parents come to London to work

:58:42. > :58:45.for four to five months each year because they can earn

:58:46. > :58:47.much more money here than at home and they feel

:58:48. > :58:50.that they are providing a better The EU referendum vote

:58:51. > :59:01.is exactly ONE week away. Who's going to win -

:59:02. > :59:16.Remain or Leave? Once again we are looking at heavy

:59:17. > :59:19.showers, some of them will be torrential, thundery, slow-moving,

:59:20. > :59:24.and could lead to the risk of localised flooding. Mainly England

:59:25. > :59:28.and also Wales. In between the showers, there will be bright spells

:59:29. > :59:32.of sunshine. Showers across Northern Ireland, bright spells as well, and

:59:33. > :59:37.Scotland have rain or drizzle and a lot of cloud. For both Scotland and

:59:38. > :59:40.Northern Ireland it is a cool breeze so feel fresher, quite Mcgee keep

:59:41. > :59:45.you are stuck under one of those showers in England and Wales. If you

:59:46. > :59:50.are heading to Royal Ascot today, it is Ladies' Day, you may already be

:59:51. > :59:54.there, watching on the big screens, expect some showers, likely to be

:59:55. > :59:58.heavy and possibly country as well. That will continue through the

:59:59. > :00:02.evening but as we had overnight, lose the Thunder and lightning, some

:00:03. > :00:06.of the showers will fade, some rain still across eastern Scotland and

:00:07. > :00:10.North East England, it will not be particularly cold. That leads us

:00:11. > :00:13.into tomorrow, still wearing across eastern Scotland and North East

:00:14. > :00:16.England but more heavy, thunder showers in the South.

:00:17. > :00:18.Hello it's Thursday, it's 10 o clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:19. > :00:23.At least 36 arrests and sixteen taken to hospital, as French police

:00:24. > :00:30.and English football fans clash in Lille.

:00:31. > :00:33.Riot police used tear gas and charged at hundreds of fans.

:00:34. > :00:35.England fans tell this programme that they want to try and restore

:00:36. > :00:45.We are just here just to enjoy it. So many people are here to enjoy it.

:00:46. > :00:50.England fans, Welsh fans, mixing amongst each other, cheering on our

:00:51. > :00:52.teams. That's what we should be concentrating on and hopefully

:00:53. > :00:54.today's the day we can restore some pride back in our country.

:00:55. > :00:57.A special report on the hundreds of thousands of children in Romania

:00:58. > :01:00.whose parents have left them behind to seek work abroad

:01:01. > :01:04.including here in the UK, we'll have reaction.

:01:05. > :01:12.How many people in here have a dad working overseas? OK, one, two,

:01:13. > :01:15.three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Can you tell me where they

:01:16. > :01:22.are working? Italy. England. Greece. It marked the beginning of the end

:01:23. > :01:25.of the Second World War - we hear from one of the last

:01:26. > :01:28.surviving British tank troop commanders to have taken part

:01:29. > :01:30.in the D-Day landings. We'll hear David's story

:01:31. > :01:44.after half ten this morning. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:01:45. > :01:57.with a summary of today's news. Some breaking news. Cliff Richard

:01:58. > :02:00.will not face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse,

:02:01. > :02:07.the Crown Prosecution Service has just announced. The CPS says it has

:02:08. > :02:13.carefully looked at claims relating to non-recent sexual cases. We will

:02:14. > :02:14.have more detail on that as it comes into us.

:02:15. > :02:17.36 people were arrested and 16 taken to hospital as French riot police

:02:18. > :02:20.clashed with England fans in the city of Lille last night.

:02:21. > :02:22.Supporters of England and Wales had been gathering there ahead

:02:23. > :02:24.of the crucial European Championship game between the teams

:02:25. > :02:29.this afternoon in the nearby town of Lens.

:02:30. > :02:33.The FA has called on England supporters to behave responsibly.

:02:34. > :02:36.With a week to go until voters decide whether the UK should stay

:02:37. > :02:39.in the European Union, both sides are focusing

:02:40. > :02:43.on the economy and migration as they hit the campaign trail today.

:02:44. > :02:47.Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell and former prime minister

:02:48. > :02:50.Gordon Brown will say that Labour could secure an extra ?35bn in EU

:02:51. > :02:56.Meanwhile, the Leave campaign is calling on David Cameron

:02:57. > :02:59.to promise that he would step in to stop Turkey from joining

:03:00. > :03:04.We'll be answering your questions on the EU Referendum to give

:03:05. > :03:06.you the facts throughout the day with our BBC experts.

:03:07. > :03:08.If you have a question on the economy, immigration,

:03:09. > :03:14.Chancellor Ken Clarke, who wants Britain to remain

:03:15. > :03:17.in the EU will also be answering your questions at 1130

:03:18. > :03:27.And at 17:30 today, The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us

:03:28. > :03:32.to leave the EU will be taking your questions.

:03:33. > :03:35.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This,

:03:36. > :03:39.Thousands of children have been left behind in Romania,

:03:40. > :03:44.by parents who are working abroad - many in the UK.

:03:45. > :03:50.Save the Children Romania says that 350,000 young people there have

:03:51. > :03:53.at least one parent working abroad, while four in ten are living

:03:54. > :03:56.EU migration laws allow Romanian adults to travel

:03:57. > :04:03.The possession and personal use of illegal drugs should be

:04:04. > :04:05.decriminalised in the UK, according to two leading

:04:06. > :04:11.The Royal Society for Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health,

:04:12. > :04:13.say the government's approach to drugs policy has failed,

:04:14. > :04:16.and there should be more focus on treatment and education.

:04:17. > :04:17.The Home Office has defended its record,

:04:18. > :04:21.saying drug abuse has fallen in the last decade.

:04:22. > :04:24.Russia has been accused of trying to stop officials from carrying out

:04:25. > :04:29.The World Anti-Doping Agency says Russian security services have

:04:30. > :04:37.Russia is due to find out tomorrow if it will be allowed to send

:04:38. > :04:38.competitors to international competitions, including

:04:39. > :04:41.People calling the 111 NHS patient helpline are waiting too

:04:42. > :04:44.long in some areas - and are even being put at risk -

:04:45. > :04:52.The Care Quality Commission found that patients who needed emergency

:04:53. > :04:57.care in the South West of England were being "consistently failed".

:04:58. > :05:07.We were concerned about the safety of the service, largely related to

:05:08. > :05:12.how long it was taking to respond to calls, and therefore calls might be

:05:13. > :05:16.abandoned. Echo some of those calls might genuinely be urgent calls and

:05:17. > :05:25.might therefore not be getting through to the right service

:05:26. > :05:29.entirely. The Met office is warning of flooding. Showers like this are

:05:30. > :05:35.expected in the south and west. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:36. > :05:46.News - more at 10.30. Just bringing you the breaking news

:05:47. > :05:51.to do with Cliff Richard. He will not face charges over allegations of

:05:52. > :05:55.historic sex abuse. That's just in from the Crown Prosecution Service.

:05:56. > :05:59.Cliff Richard who has spent two years under investigation will not

:06:00. > :06:05.face charges over allegations of historic sex abuse. The statement

:06:06. > :06:09.here is from the Chief Crown is a judo for Yorkshire and Humberside,

:06:10. > :06:11.Martin Goldman. He says the CPS has carefully reviewed evidence relating

:06:12. > :06:20.to claims of non-recent sexual offences dating between 1958 and

:06:21. > :06:23.1983 made by four men. We've decided that there is insufficient evidence

:06:24. > :06:28.to prosecute. This decision has been made in accordance with the code for

:06:29. > :06:32.Crown prosecutors and our guidance for prosecutors on cases of sexual

:06:33. > :06:36.offences. The CPS worked with police during the investigation. This has

:06:37. > :06:41.helped minimise the time needed to reach a decision once we received

:06:42. > :06:45.the complete file of evidence on the 10th of May. The complainants have

:06:46. > :06:50.been informed and provided with a full explanation in writing. The CPS

:06:51. > :06:54.saying they only got the full file of evidence from the police on the

:06:55. > :06:58.10th of May and weeks later they have made a decision that Cliff

:06:59. > :07:03.Richard will not be prosecuted for allegations of non-recent sexual

:07:04. > :07:06.abuse. Much more reaction to that to come in the next hour. Sport now

:07:07. > :07:15.with Sally in Paris. The day is finally here when the

:07:16. > :07:19.draw for this European Championship made was back in December, England

:07:20. > :07:24.against Wales in Lens was the one everybody noticed. Now we are here a

:07:25. > :07:28.couple of hours before kick-off and after a Welsh victory over Russia

:07:29. > :07:33.and England's disappointing draw, stakes could not be higher. Lots of

:07:34. > :07:37.talk before the game, now time for action. Many people in England and

:07:38. > :07:42.Great Britain certainly looking forward to this game. We certainly

:07:43. > :07:47.are and perhaps even around the world, the fact that it is a game

:07:48. > :07:53.between brothers, if you like. It adds spice to it, adds interest. And

:07:54. > :07:59.that's something which I can only welcome, really. If anything it

:08:00. > :08:02.heightens the occasion rather than lessons it. Whatever's going on

:08:03. > :08:06.around England and there's a lot going on around England, a lot

:08:07. > :08:09.expected of them because they've had great players down the years,

:08:10. > :08:13.there's been a lot of expectancy around England any time they come in

:08:14. > :08:19.to a tournament, there's expectancy, a lot of pressure on England. That's

:08:20. > :08:23.what I meant, we didn't want to get caught up with that. As soon as this

:08:24. > :08:30.game was on the menu, you know what is coming before the start. It's not

:08:31. > :08:35.all about England and Wales today, Northern Ireland have a crucial game

:08:36. > :08:39.against Ukraine in Lyon. Our correspondence Katie Cornel is

:08:40. > :08:42.there. After the Irish lost their opening match to Poland, this really

:08:43. > :08:49.is make or break for them. That's right. An awful lot riding on this

:08:50. > :08:54.for Northern Ireland's players. When they walk out of this tunnel later

:08:55. > :08:57.and into this impressive stadium in Lyon, they know their best hopes of

:08:58. > :09:02.progressing from the group rest on what happens out here on this pitch

:09:03. > :09:07.later against Ukraine. The teams coming to this having lost their

:09:08. > :09:12.opening matches. They know this is their best hope of getting some

:09:13. > :09:15.points on the board later. Speaking to Michael O'Neill, the Northern

:09:16. > :09:18.Ireland manager, about this, he described it as a cup final. He said

:09:19. > :09:22.his team are really enjoying their taste of the Euros, the first major

:09:23. > :09:27.tournament in 30 years, and says they are not ready to go home yet.

:09:28. > :09:31.Lost the first game, I think there is a natural fear of, when do you go

:09:32. > :09:36.home? I think other countries will feel the same. We have to make sure

:09:37. > :09:40.that our motivating factor and I've no doubt it will be. We love our

:09:41. > :09:48.base, we want to stay there as long as we can, so we do. We want to make

:09:49. > :09:54.sure that tomorrow night will be played like a cup final because we

:09:55. > :09:58.know the significance of three points. This is the dugout where

:09:59. > :10:02.Michael O'Neill will be watching later, and he will hope to see an

:10:03. > :10:05.improved performance from the one he saw against Poland. Northern Ireland

:10:06. > :10:10.did not manage a shot on target in that game. I think we can expect

:10:11. > :10:13.them to be on the front foot later against Poland to be more positive

:10:14. > :10:17.and come out of their shell of it. They face a tough task against

:10:18. > :10:23.Ukraine who lost their opening game to Germany, but only just. They ran

:10:24. > :10:25.the world champions close for about 90 minutes. Northern Ireland will

:10:26. > :10:30.need to match them physically out here and they will not be short of

:10:31. > :10:35.support. We are expecting 18,000 Northern Irish fans in this stadium.

:10:36. > :10:38.They have taken over Lyon. They know this is a match their team

:10:39. > :10:43.realistically cannot afford to lose. We wish them and you well. That is

:10:44. > :10:48.all the sport from Paris, now back to you, Victoria. More now on the

:10:49. > :10:54.news that Sir Cliff Richard has been told that he will not face any

:10:55. > :11:00.charges when it comes to non-historic sexual abuse. Let's

:11:01. > :11:05.bring in our home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw. Let's be

:11:06. > :11:07.clear what is happening. We had a statement from the Crown Prosecution

:11:08. > :11:11.Service and I will read the main points of the statement. It says

:11:12. > :11:16.that no further action will be taken against a 75-year-old man, we know

:11:17. > :11:21.that is Sir Cliff Richard, in relation to allegations of

:11:22. > :11:30.non-recent sexual abuse. The CPS has closely looked into claims of sexual

:11:31. > :11:35.abuse made by four men between 1975 and 1988, and decided there is no

:11:36. > :11:38.evidence to prosecute. The CPS has made the decision once it had the

:11:39. > :11:42.full file of evidence quite quickly. It received the full file at the

:11:43. > :11:45.beginning of May so the final decision has not taken long. But it

:11:46. > :11:49.has been working with the police for many months. The decision did not

:11:50. > :11:54.come to them cold, they knew what this investigation was about. I

:11:55. > :11:57.think there will now be some serious questions for the police in

:11:58. > :12:02.particular about why this has taken so long. Sir Cliff Richard's

:12:03. > :12:07.apartment in Berkshire was raided, searched by police back in August

:12:08. > :12:12.2000 14. That was some while after South Yorkshire Police were given

:12:13. > :12:18.this case to investigate. Almost two years. Two years. And for a decision

:12:19. > :12:22.to take that long, it is not unprecedented, but it is quite

:12:23. > :12:25.unusual. Having said that, these are complex matters because they relate

:12:26. > :12:30.to events that happened many, many years ago. Tracking down witnesses,

:12:31. > :12:34.trying to find documentary evidence that might prove or disprove the

:12:35. > :12:40.allegations, takes a long time. So these are cases that can't be dealt

:12:41. > :12:42.with speedily in a matter of weeks. Nevertheless there will be

:12:43. > :12:51.questioned as to how long it has taken. The allegations dated between

:12:52. > :12:54.1958 and 1983 made by four men. Do we know any more detail about the

:12:55. > :12:57.nature of the allegations those four were making? We don't other than the

:12:58. > :13:02.fact they were alleged sexual offences. But slightly confusingly

:13:03. > :13:09.is that at the time this all emerged two years ago, we were told one of

:13:10. > :13:15.the allegations concerned an alleged sexual assault at a religious event

:13:16. > :13:21.at the Bramall Lane stadium in 1985, that is not the time the Crown

:13:22. > :13:24.prosecution are looking at. Whether there has been a mistake or the

:13:25. > :13:28.recollection of a complainant has been wrong is something we will have

:13:29. > :13:32.to find out. But there is a slight difference in the timings of this. I

:13:33. > :13:36.think it's another important thing to say, this isn't necessarily the

:13:37. > :13:40.end of the matter. The Crown Prosecution Service makes that quite

:13:41. > :13:45.clear in its statement. It says CPS prosecutors must also keep every

:13:46. > :13:49.case under review. If appropriate the CPS may change the charges or

:13:50. > :13:53.stop a case. Clearly there have been no charges so far. But every

:13:54. > :13:58.complainant has the right to review the decision not to bring charges.

:13:59. > :14:02.That's a new procedure brought in by the Crown Prosecution Service within

:14:03. > :14:06.the last couple of years. If the complainants in this case wanted a

:14:07. > :14:11.review of the decision the CPS has made, they are entitled to that

:14:12. > :14:16.review. We do not have a statement yet from Cliff Richard nor his

:14:17. > :14:18.agent. One could imagine that he will presumably be feeling relief

:14:19. > :14:23.and a lot of anger? I would have thought so. He was very angry about

:14:24. > :14:29.the way the whole case unfolded, the publicity attached to it. The BBC

:14:30. > :14:33.was filming the raid as the police were carrying out the raid on his

:14:34. > :14:37.Berkshire apartment. Yes, the BBC sent a helicopter to film the raid,

:14:38. > :14:41.some of it was broadcast live on the BBC. I think there will now be

:14:42. > :14:45.serious questions for the BBC in terms of its coverage. No doubt they

:14:46. > :14:49.will justify that in saying this was a matter of public interest, there

:14:50. > :14:55.was an ongoing police investigation that led to a very compact enquiry

:14:56. > :14:59.and a file being passed to the CPS. The fact no charges were brought

:15:00. > :15:04.will now put scrutiny back on the BBC, I have no doubt about that.

:15:05. > :15:06.Thank you for the moment, Danny Shaw, our home affairs

:15:07. > :15:08.correspondent. More reaction throughout the programme.

:15:09. > :15:11.There's exactly one week to go before you decide whether Britain

:15:12. > :15:13.remains in or leaves the European Union.

:15:14. > :15:18.If you're one of the undecideds, you are probably the most important

:15:19. > :15:20.people in Britain right now because you could swing

:15:21. > :15:30.Here's a quick film, which does contain some strobing images.

:15:31. > :15:38.There's one week to go and we are heading to the moment of peak

:15:39. > :15:40.campaign. That down to. Airy fairy. What matters is. The United Kingdom.

:15:41. > :15:54.All of which is to remain. There are still people who are

:15:55. > :16:11.undecided. Lee's claim immigrants are a squeeze

:16:12. > :16:14.on public services like the NHS. Remain camp immigrants benefit the

:16:15. > :16:32.UK economy and pay more in taxes than they take out.

:16:33. > :16:39.There is so much information on so many topics, I don't know where to

:16:40. > :16:42.start. Have a look at the BBC News website,

:16:43. > :16:47.take a few minutes to read each topic and decide who you believe

:16:48. > :16:50.more. As an undecided voters you could

:16:51. > :16:51.swing the result is away. But you have to make your mind up, you have

:16:52. > :17:04.less than a week. Let's now talk to Political

:17:05. > :17:06.Scientist and Polling expert Professor John

:17:07. > :17:08.Curtice and Professor of Political Science

:17:09. > :17:18.at the London School Who do you think will win? 24 hours

:17:19. > :17:22.ago I would have said the balance of problem -- balance of probability

:17:23. > :17:27.was with Remain but it is increasingly moving in the direction

:17:28. > :17:31.of Leave. In the last hour or so we have had another poll released by

:17:32. > :17:37.its loss Morrie, done over the phone, and hitherto phone polls have

:17:38. > :17:39.been saying that Remain were ahead. There have been methodological

:17:40. > :17:43.changes which in part perhaps account for the result but only in

:17:44. > :17:49.part, but if Foss Morrie also saying that Leave are ahead by about 53% to

:17:50. > :17:58.47% and even if we now allow for the fact that maybe referendum opinion

:17:59. > :18:06.polls have a tendency to overestimate things, today's polls

:18:07. > :18:10.suggest there will not be the slingback at the end, but we may be

:18:11. > :18:16.getting close to a situation where the odds on either side winning are

:18:17. > :18:19.very close to 50%. I just want to be clear about what you are saying

:18:20. > :18:23.today, bearing in mind that latest poll that you have looked at. You

:18:24. > :18:31.saying the balance of probability is suggesting to you still that it is a

:18:32. > :18:34.Remain win? I'm saying the probabilities are sufficiently close

:18:35. > :18:38.to 50-50 and I don't think there are many people out there who will want

:18:39. > :18:42.to call it. We will get another poll at 12pm which may clarify things

:18:43. > :18:46.further but public opinion during the course of the last two or three

:18:47. > :18:50.weeks, having been extraordinarily stable throughout the course of the

:18:51. > :18:54.referendum campaign, has, according to both phone and Internet polls,

:18:55. > :19:01.swung fairly substantially to war three point at least in favour of

:19:02. > :19:05.Leave. Simon Hix, who do you believe will win next Thursday? The momentum

:19:06. > :19:09.is with the Leave campaign, it has had a successful week, the Remain

:19:10. > :19:14.campaign seems to have shot its guns and does not have much left. Scare

:19:15. > :19:18.tactics don't seem to be working, the Remain campaign has failed to

:19:19. > :19:23.explain how staying in the EU will allow immigration to come down or

:19:24. > :19:26.how they will address continued high-level for of immigration in

:19:27. > :19:28.terms of public services, and they have failed to articulated a clear

:19:29. > :19:33.vision of Britain taking a leadership role in the EU and a

:19:34. > :19:37.positive vision of Britain remaining in the EU. We have seen a turn in

:19:38. > :19:41.the campaign with Leave looking like they have a more positive vision of

:19:42. > :19:46.Britain's future outside the EU and Remain having not a very positive

:19:47. > :19:50.vision. John Curtice, bearing in mind how sceptical we are after the

:19:51. > :19:53.polls got it wrong at last year's general election, tell us what the

:19:54. > :19:58.phone and online polls are suggesting? If you take the average

:19:59. > :20:02.of all of the online polls since the 27th of May, since we were into

:20:03. > :20:12.powder, which seems to have been the crucial point... Just remind our

:20:13. > :20:17.audience what purdah means. I was going to! It is the point at which

:20:18. > :20:20.the Government has no longer access to the silver service machine to

:20:21. > :20:25.create paper such as that which claims who will be worse off by 2030

:20:26. > :20:29.is we vote to leave, since both sides have had to rely on their own

:20:30. > :20:35.campaigning resources, since then the Internet polls have, on average,

:20:36. > :20:46.across the range, about a dozen of them, put lead on 52, remain on 48,

:20:47. > :20:51.phone polls on the same period put similar, but the later we have gone

:20:52. > :20:56.it has got better the Leave and was full Remain. The crucial thing is,

:20:57. > :21:01.have we reached a point at which the movement. Or is it something that is

:21:02. > :21:05.going to continue further? If it continues further then Remain will

:21:06. > :21:09.be in serious trouble. If it stops maybe they can claw things back.

:21:10. > :21:13.Something that Simon has just said, I think what today's poll in

:21:14. > :21:17.particular underlines, it was evidenced in polls at the weekend,

:21:18. > :21:21.that the public frankly have decided they do not believe many of the

:21:22. > :21:25.claims made by the Remain side about what the consequences of leaving

:21:26. > :21:33.will be, in particular only around one in five said they believe we

:21:34. > :21:37.will be ?340,000 worth of by 2030 if we stay, and it may be that remain

:21:38. > :21:42.have cried wolf too often and have lost credibility in the eyes of the

:21:43. > :21:53.crucial section of the British electorate. Simon, if Leave win, and

:21:54. > :21:58.they get 51%, and Remain are on 49%, what will be Remain side do, ask for

:21:59. > :22:02.a recount? I think it will be seen as the public have made a decision,

:22:03. > :22:05.I think we have moved to a conception in British politics about

:22:06. > :22:08.popular will and popular sovereignty so the chat about Parliament

:22:09. > :22:11.overturning a result of the referendum, even though a majority

:22:12. > :22:16.of the House of Commons would probably like to stay in the EU, I

:22:17. > :22:22.think they would accept it as an outcome, and the big question is

:22:23. > :22:24.then what happens to David Cameron, the leaderships of the major

:22:25. > :22:31.parties... There would be some political chaos. If Leave win by a

:22:32. > :22:37.couple of percent, what do you predict will happen? The answer is

:22:38. > :22:42.we will be out of the European Union with it being negotiated by either

:22:43. > :22:45.Boris Johnson or Michael Gove, David Cameron will not survive very long,

:22:46. > :22:49.neither will the Chancellor, George Osborne. One of the difficulties he

:22:50. > :22:52.faced yesterday with his attempt to suggest that leaving would be

:22:53. > :22:59.disastrous when he said he would have an emergency budget in which he

:23:00. > :23:02.would have to raise taxes, 68 MP said, we would not back you, you

:23:03. > :23:06.would not get the budget through, and the reaction is that frankly,

:23:07. > :23:10.George, if the UK votes to leave, you will not be around to deliver

:23:11. > :23:15.any kind of budget at all. Thank you very much, John Curtice and Simon

:23:16. > :23:19.Hix, for coming on the programme. We have a statement from Sir Cliff

:23:20. > :23:23.Richard, who has learned this morning, alongside the media, that

:23:24. > :23:29.he will not face any charges for those allegations of historic sexual

:23:30. > :23:34.abuse. This is what Sir Cliff Richard has said: After almost two

:23:35. > :23:37.years under police investigation I learned today that they have finally

:23:38. > :23:41.closed their inquiries. I have always maintained by

:23:42. > :23:43.innocents, co-operated fully with the investigation, and cannot

:23:44. > :23:49.understand why it has taken so long to get to this point! Nevertheless,

:23:50. > :23:51.I am thrilled that the vile accusations and resulting

:23:52. > :23:56.investigation have finally been brought to a close. Ever since the

:23:57. > :24:01.highly publicised and BBC filmed raid on my home, I have chosen not

:24:02. > :24:05.to speak publicly, even though I was under pressure to speak out, other

:24:06. > :24:11.than to state my innocence, which was easy for me to do as I have

:24:12. > :24:15.never molested anyone in my life. I chose to remain sided despite the

:24:16. > :24:19.widely shared sense of injustice resulting from the high-profile

:24:20. > :24:23.fumbling of my case from day one. Other than in exceptional cases,

:24:24. > :24:28.people facing allegations should never be named publicly until

:24:29. > :24:32.charged. I was named before I was even interviewed, and, for me, it

:24:33. > :24:39.was like being hung out like live bait. It is obvious that such

:24:40. > :24:43.strategies simply increase the risk of attracting spurious claims which

:24:44. > :24:46.not only type of police resources and waste public funds but brother

:24:47. > :24:51.tarnish the reputation of innocent people.

:24:52. > :24:54.The statement goes on: There have been numerous occasions in recent

:24:55. > :24:57.years where this has occurred and I feel strongly that no innocent

:24:58. > :25:01.person should be treated this way. I know the truth and in some people's

:25:02. > :25:05.eyes the CPS announcement today does not go far enough because it does

:25:06. > :25:10.not expressly state that I am innocent, which, of course, I am,

:25:11. > :25:14.and therein lies the problem. My reputation will not be fully

:25:15. > :25:17.vindicated because the CPS' policy is to only say something general

:25:18. > :25:41.about insufficient evidence. How can there evidence for something

:25:42. > :25:44.that never took place? This is also a reason why people should never be

:25:45. > :25:46.named publicly until they are charged unless there are exceptional

:25:47. > :25:49.circumstances. To my fans and members of the public, to the press

:25:50. > :25:51.and media, all of whom have shown me such encouraging and wonderful

:25:52. > :25:53.support, I would like to say thank you. It would have been so much

:25:54. > :25:55.harder without you. A pretty furious statement from Sir

:25:56. > :25:57.Cliff Richard, he says he is thrilled that the vile accusations

:25:58. > :26:00.and investigation had been brought to a close, he states several times

:26:01. > :26:03.that he should never have been named and people should not be named

:26:04. > :26:06.unless and until charged, and he worries that his reputation will

:26:07. > :26:09.forever be tarnished. The former Prime Minister Gordon

:26:10. > :26:13.Brown and Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell are giving a speech this

:26:14. > :26:16.morning in Manchester on why staying in the European Union is better for

:26:17. > :26:23.Britain's biggest cities outside London. In a moment we will speak to

:26:24. > :26:27.Norman Smith but first let's have a. Exploited by a company employing

:26:28. > :26:32.foreign workers so that good workers are not undercut by the bad and just

:26:33. > :26:35.as the Dutch have got new laws so do the European Labour and Socialist

:26:36. > :26:40.groups want murals with minimum standards across Europe. Let's make

:26:41. > :26:43.sure that we say to people, if you go to Remain the Labour Party will

:26:44. > :26:48.campaign for minimum standards across Europe, the Tories will not

:26:49. > :26:52.protect 0-hours contract workers but fighting in Europe and let us tell

:26:53. > :27:00.them that we can and we will. And what is the objection of the Brexit

:27:01. > :27:05.people? What are they saying? Leave Europe, join the world. But does the

:27:06. > :27:11.world want us to leave Europe and join the world? America says, stay

:27:12. > :27:16.with Europe! Australia says, stay with Europe! The Commonwealth says,

:27:17. > :27:20.stay with Europe! Every country I know, Albania, Michael Gove mentions

:27:21. > :27:25.them of wanting us to join them, even the Prime Minister of Albania

:27:26. > :27:29.said, stay with Europe! Only Donald Trump, the only person selling it is

:27:30. > :27:42.better for us to leave Europe, of any of the International leaders I

:27:43. > :27:45.know, and there has been a poll in the United States of America as to

:27:46. > :27:47.what a trump presidency would mean for them, 70% said it would make

:27:48. > :27:50.them more insecure, 30% said it would make them Canadians! Trump was

:27:51. > :27:52.asked, who are the three greatest Americans in history, he said the

:27:53. > :27:54.other two are Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

:27:55. > :27:58.You know what the Brexit people want? They want someone to blame, to

:27:59. > :28:03.blame Europe for problems they have caused themselves. I knew the

:28:04. > :28:08.president of Brazil, he said, when I was a shop steward and people told

:28:09. > :28:13.me and asked me what is wrong with Brazil, who is to blame? I said, the

:28:14. > :28:17.Government. Then I became trade union secretary, and I still said,

:28:18. > :28:21.the Government. Then I became Leader of the Opposition and I would still

:28:22. > :28:25.say, the Government. Then he said, I became the Government, and who did I

:28:26. > :28:30.blame? He said, America! Let's leave Gordon Brown there.

:28:31. > :28:36.Norman, you have been listening to the speech, he is very animated.

:28:37. > :28:40.Yes, the hope for the Remain camp is Gordon Brown can recapture energy

:28:41. > :28:43.among the Labour vote as he did in the Scottish independence referendum

:28:44. > :28:48.so he has been out a lot fronting up the Labour fightback today, in

:28:49. > :28:53.Manchester delay, important because he is a blog, Jeremy Corbyn, John

:28:54. > :28:56.McDonald is with him, there is a push by the Labour Party to rescue

:28:57. > :29:00.the vote in the northern heartlands because when you talk to Labour MPs

:29:01. > :29:03.they are in panic stations about what is going on in the northern

:29:04. > :29:09.constituencies, especially in the most loyal wards, where they say the

:29:10. > :29:15.response on the doorstep is pretty much, we are leaving, that is it.

:29:16. > :29:20.Why? The argument seems to be that all this talk about economic doom if

:29:21. > :29:24.we leave the EU, and a lot of Labour bug, not just immigration, but they

:29:25. > :29:29.take the view that they have endured years of austerity, pay cuts,

:29:30. > :29:33.benefits cut, spending squeezes, and they think, how much worse can it

:29:34. > :29:43.get? Labour MPs are finding it difficult to home the message

:29:44. > :29:46.through, which is why they have wheeled out Gordon Brown to try to

:29:47. > :29:48.make a more positive pitch, so his argument, he put it again and again

:29:49. > :29:50.in his speeches, is that Europe benefits ordinary folk in terms of

:29:51. > :29:53.creating jobs through the single market, in terms of employment

:29:54. > :29:58.rights, guaranteeing things that maternity pay, holiday leave, that

:29:59. > :30:02.sort of thing, and in terms of the future, too, he says with greater

:30:03. > :30:06.integration in the single market in areas like services and digital

:30:07. > :30:11.areas, whom areas for Britain, there would be more jobs here as a result

:30:12. > :30:14.of being part of the EU, so they are relying on Gordon Brown to rescue

:30:15. > :30:18.some of the Labour vote. Vote Leave today saying the Treasury

:30:19. > :30:22.and the Bank of England's forecast of Sony, which means they can,

:30:23. > :30:28.false, not telling the truth, a serious allegation?

:30:29. > :30:36.What is extraordinary about it, you might have expected the wild men of

:30:37. > :30:40.the Brexit campaign to run amok and accuse them of being part of a

:30:41. > :30:44.conspiracy, but these accusations are coming from pillars of the

:30:45. > :30:49.establishment. Nigel Lawson, Norman Lamont, Michael Howard. I mean, they

:30:50. > :30:54.are in effect accusing the governor of the Bank of England of being part

:30:55. > :31:01.of some sort of deliberate stitch up by the government. That is a hugely

:31:02. > :31:06.incendiary charge to make. And ready we've heard from Downing Street

:31:07. > :31:09.saying hang on a just hang on a sec, because these institutions, we are

:31:10. > :31:14.still going to need them after the referendum and they have to be above

:31:15. > :31:18.politics, the on politics, they have to be independent and impartial.

:31:19. > :31:24.There is a slight feeling of a scorched earth strategy, we are

:31:25. > :31:28.going to take out all our critics. The Leave say these guys have been

:31:29. > :31:32.wrong before. They are trying to pitch this referendum is the

:31:33. > :31:35.ordinary folk take on the establishment, the elite, such as

:31:36. > :31:40.the bank. Cheers, thank you very much. Breaking news in the last

:31:41. > :31:46.half-hour that Sir Cliff Richard will face no further action over

:31:47. > :31:51.allegations of historical sex abuse. He says he's thrilled. He says the

:31:52. > :31:56.accusations were vile. He's had an apology just in from South Yorkshire

:31:57. > :32:00.Police, not for the investigation, but South Yorkshire Police saying

:32:01. > :32:04.they are sorry, wholeheartedly, for the additional anxiety caused to Sir

:32:05. > :32:09.Cliff Richard by the Force's initial handling of the media interest of

:32:10. > :32:13.its investigation into the singer, clearly referring to the fact that

:32:14. > :32:19.the BBC knew that South Yorkshire Police were about to read Sir Cliff

:32:20. > :32:21.Richard's Berkshire apartment. South Yorkshire Police apologising

:32:22. > :32:27.wholeheartedly for the additional anxiety caused to Sir Cliff Richard

:32:28. > :32:29.by the force's initial handling of the media interest of its

:32:30. > :32:31.investigation into the singer. It was a night to forget for many

:32:32. > :32:33.England football fans In a moment we'll be

:32:34. > :32:36.asking what the FA's And, the extraordinary account

:32:37. > :32:40.of one of the last surviving Second World War tank troop

:32:41. > :32:42.commanders, David Render With the News here's Annita

:32:43. > :33:01.in the BBC Newsroom Thank you and good morning. Sir

:33:02. > :33:03.Cliff Richard says he's thrilled he will face no further action over

:33:04. > :33:11.allegations of historical sex abuse. The CPS says it has "carefully

:33:12. > :33:13.reviewed" evidence relating to claims of sexual offences

:33:14. > :33:16.between 1958 and 1983 In a statement, Sir Cliff Richard

:33:17. > :33:23.said he was "thrilled that the vile accusations had finally been

:33:24. > :33:29.brought to a close". South Yorkshire Police has

:33:30. > :33:30.apologised wholeheartedly for their handling of media interest in the

:33:31. > :33:32.enquiry. 36 people were arrested and 16 taken

:33:33. > :33:35.to hospital as French riot police clashed with England fans

:33:36. > :33:37.in the city of Lille last night. Supporters of England and Wales had

:33:38. > :33:40.been gathering there ahead of the European Championship game

:33:41. > :33:42.between the teams this afternoon The FA has called on England

:33:43. > :33:49.supporters to behave responsibly. With a week to go until voters

:33:50. > :33:55.decide whether the UK should stay in the European Union,

:33:56. > :33:57.both sides are focusing on the economy and migration

:33:58. > :34:00.on the campaign trail today. The former prime

:34:01. > :34:02.minister Gordon Brown - in a speech in Manchester -

:34:03. > :34:04.has warned that leaving the European Union risks pushing

:34:05. > :34:07.some of the UK's biggest cities Meanwhile, four senior Conservative

:34:08. > :34:10.figures have accused the Bank of England and the Treasury

:34:11. > :34:12.of "peddling phoney forecasts to frighten the electorate"

:34:13. > :34:22.into voting to stay in the EU. We'll be answering your questions

:34:23. > :34:25.on the EU Referendum to give you the facts throughout the day

:34:26. > :34:27.with our BBC experts. If you have a question

:34:28. > :34:29.on the economy, immigration, Chancellor Ken Clarke,

:34:30. > :34:36.who wants Britain to remain in the EU will also be

:34:37. > :34:38.answering your questions at 1130 And at Five thirty today,

:34:39. > :34:42.The UKIP Leader, Nigel Farage who wants us to leave the EU will be

:34:43. > :34:45.taking your questions. You can get in touch via Twitter

:34:46. > :34:48.using the hashtag BBC Ask This The possession and personal use

:34:49. > :34:55.of illegal drugs should be decriminalised in the UK,

:34:56. > :34:57.according to two leading The Royal Society for

:34:58. > :35:05.Public Health, and the Faculty of Public Health, say

:35:06. > :35:07.the government's approach to drugs policy has failed,

:35:08. > :35:10.and there should be more focus The Home Office has

:35:11. > :35:12.defended its record, saying drug abuse has fallen

:35:13. > :35:14.in the last decade. People calling the 111 NHS patient

:35:15. > :35:17.helpline are waiting too long in some areas -

:35:18. > :35:20.and are even being put at risk - The Care Quality Commission found

:35:21. > :35:26.that patients who needed emergency care in the South West

:35:27. > :35:38.of England were being The Met office warns of possible

:35:39. > :35:44.flash flooding in parts of the UK today. Fund re-heavy showers like

:35:45. > :35:50.this are expected in parts of the West and the South of England --

:35:51. > :35:53.thundery and heavy showers. They could be slow-moving although the

:35:54. > :35:55.wet weather will be localised. Hopefully you can stay dry.

:35:56. > :35:58.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom

:35:59. > :36:09.Good morning. It's the day a large proportion of the country have been

:36:10. > :36:15.waiting for, England against Wales in Lens kicks off at 2pm. England

:36:16. > :36:19.really can't afford another slip-up after only drawing their opening

:36:20. > :36:24.match. Wales know they can qualify for the knockout phase with a win.

:36:25. > :36:29.Big day for Northern Ireland. They lost their opening match against

:36:30. > :36:34.Poland. They face Ukraine in Lyon later and cannot afford another

:36:35. > :36:37.defeat. Last night hosts France made it into the last 16 with their

:36:38. > :36:43.second victory. They left it late, though. Injury time goals from

:36:44. > :36:49.Antoine Grisman and West Ham's Dimitri Payet gave them a 2-0

:36:50. > :36:53.victory over Albania. Eddie Jones has named his team for the second

:36:54. > :36:58.test with Australia in Melbourne on Saturday. George North returns as

:36:59. > :37:06.fly half with Farrell on the wing. And those are your sports headlines.

:37:07. > :37:13.Hundreds of thousands of children in Romania have parents working abroad.

:37:14. > :37:16.Some schools even display posters urging adults to let the authorities

:37:17. > :37:17.know who will be looking after their children

:37:18. > :37:21.According to Save The Children, up to 350,000 children in Romania

:37:22. > :37:24.In around 40% of cases, both parents have left.

:37:25. > :37:27.Earlier we brought you Catrin Nye's full report on the children left

:37:28. > :37:31.Before we talk to one mother who's in this situation,

:37:32. > :37:41.So how many people in here have a mum or dad working overseas? This

:37:42. > :37:46.school has 1200 pupils. Around 200 have parents working abroad. Across

:37:47. > :37:49.remain near Save the Children estimate that there are roughly

:37:50. > :37:55.hundred and 50,000 children with a parent overseas. 40% with both.

:37:56. > :38:01.Where are your parents working? Italy. We are in a town in eastern

:38:02. > :38:06.Romania. This is the third poorest region in the entire EU. What sort

:38:07. > :38:10.of problems do you see in students whose parents have gone overseas?

:38:11. > :38:16.The main problem is that some of them dropped out of school. Some of

:38:17. > :38:21.them get involved into all kinds of difficult situations for them. Maybe

:38:22. > :38:28.drugs, even prostitution. Some of them become violent. Violent? Yeah,

:38:29. > :38:32.violent. Wide? Because they lack their parents attention. Because

:38:33. > :38:36.there are so many Romanian children with parents overseas, save the

:38:37. > :38:40.children have opened up 17 centres like this one in schools across the

:38:41. > :38:42.country. They offer things like help with homework and psychological

:38:43. > :38:45.support for people whose parents are not around. Do you miss your

:38:46. > :38:59.parents? Very much. And you? If you were to say something

:39:00. > :39:03.to your mum about her going? I tell my mum that

:39:04. > :39:06.I love her and I want Emma is 18, both her parents

:39:07. > :39:15.and her brother live Emma's mum Amelia has been in the UK

:39:16. > :39:31.for almost three years. How much better was the wage

:39:32. > :39:33.you could get in Luton What I can take for one

:39:34. > :39:39.month, I take in Romania Do you feel any guilt

:39:40. > :39:45.for leaving her behind? For good life. For something good

:39:46. > :39:58.for her. When she's finished school,

:39:59. > :40:01.Emma will join her family in Luton, where she will study

:40:02. > :40:09.to be a psychologist. Andreea Radulescu and her husband

:40:10. > :40:12.travel from Romania to London to work for four to five months

:40:13. > :40:15.in a row, each year. They have a six-year-old daughter,

:40:16. > :40:36.Ariana Harriet, who stays behind Hello. I. Hello. Hello. Thank you

:40:37. > :40:39.for coming on our programme. Tell us what kind of work you and your

:40:40. > :40:47.husband come to London to do and why? I work as a cleaner and he is a

:40:48. > :40:54.window fitter. We come to make more money here. The wages are not that

:40:55. > :40:59.good. So it is about earning more money so you can have a better life

:41:00. > :41:03.for your family and daughter? Yeah, that's true. And as your little girl

:41:04. > :41:09.gets older, how does she cope with the fact her mum and dad are away

:41:10. > :41:13.for four to five months each year? It's not easy. And now because she's

:41:14. > :41:20.growing she's asking every time we talk to her, when we come back, when

:41:21. > :41:24.is the job finished. She doesn't understand yet what happens. And how

:41:25. > :41:30.is it for her living with her grandparents? She's fine. She loves

:41:31. > :41:40.them and they love her. They spoil her. It's not like money and daddy.

:41:41. > :41:45.And on Skype it's not easy, it's not like cuddling or a hug, can't kiss

:41:46. > :41:51.her on Skype. It's hard for us as well. But we hope she will

:41:52. > :41:57.appreciate when she will grow up. When you leave, how is it when you

:41:58. > :42:03.and your husband leave her for those months? To be honest we don't say

:42:04. > :42:09.anything to her before we leave. We just tell her when we are there,

:42:10. > :42:13.when we get to England. Because I don't want to see her crying or to

:42:14. > :42:19.be upset. Are you going to keep doing this? We are not sure if we

:42:20. > :42:26.can do it for long. Because it is difficult now. It was easy when she

:42:27. > :42:30.was little. But now she is growing, and she knows she needs us more.

:42:31. > :42:39.Yeah. So maybe this year might be the last time? I can't say yes

:42:40. > :42:46.because I don't know. But might be. OK. When you come home is it as

:42:47. > :42:51.though you've never been away or do you have to get to know each other

:42:52. > :42:58.all over again? Sorry, say that again. When you get back to Romania,

:42:59. > :43:03.do you feel you have to get to know your daughter again or is it as

:43:04. > :43:14.though you have never been away? Because we see her every time, every

:43:15. > :43:24.day, it's a bit different. Sorry. But I feel like I miss her for this

:43:25. > :43:30.period of that time. OK. What about missing those important things like

:43:31. > :43:36.birthdays and so on and so forth? That must be tough? We always are

:43:37. > :43:42.together on her birthday, we never miss her birthday. So we are trying

:43:43. > :43:48.to be here when it is her birthday, when she starts school, or when she

:43:49. > :43:52.finishes school. We are trying to work out as much as we can. She is

:43:53. > :44:02.doing a lot of activity. Ballet, dancing. She is having a lot of

:44:03. > :44:08.competition which we are missing. But we are recording her, and we see

:44:09. > :44:11.her. I understand. Thank you for talking to us, and thanks to Ariana

:44:12. > :44:20.as well, really appreciate your time, thank you. All the best.

:44:21. > :44:23.As we've been hearing, there was more violence involving

:44:24. > :44:25.football supporters on the streets of Lille last night

:44:26. > :44:27.after the Russia-Slovakia game, and ahead of the England-Wales game

:44:28. > :44:29.this afternoon just down the road in Lens.

:44:30. > :44:31.There were 36 arrests, and 16 people were

:44:32. > :44:34.Initial concerns were about England versus Russian fans.

:44:35. > :44:36.But last night it appeared to be about English supporters

:44:37. > :44:39.Our correspondent, Danny Savage, was there.

:44:40. > :44:42.The England fans are being followed around by the French riot police.

:44:43. > :44:50.But they're coming at them from several different angles.

:44:51. > :44:54.You've got a line of riot police here.

:44:55. > :44:56.They're trying to keep the English supporters on the move.

:44:57. > :44:59.Not a good night for English supporters here.

:45:00. > :45:04.It doesn't put them in a good light at all.

:45:05. > :45:06.Uefa has threatened to disqualify England

:45:07. > :45:08.from the European Championship if there's a repeat

:45:09. > :45:10.of the violence that was seen in Marseille on Saturday.

:45:11. > :45:12.Uefa has already given a Russia a suspended

:45:13. > :45:17.So how is European Football's governing body likely to respond

:45:18. > :45:20.Let's get more on this from Mark Palios, a former

:45:21. > :45:32.What do you think? I think there was a communique from Uefa would have

:45:33. > :45:34.not seen but heard about and I think they will probably stick to the

:45:35. > :45:38.stance that at this point in time they would only be taking

:45:39. > :45:45.disciplinary action as they would call it in the event of in stadium

:45:46. > :45:51.violence by fans. I think outside of the stadium they said that is

:45:52. > :46:00.outwith their juristic show and in 2004 we had this very issue,

:46:01. > :46:03.following riots at the 98 World Cup, there was a distinct possibility we

:46:04. > :46:11.would be excluded or kicked out of the championships, and we defined

:46:12. > :46:14.the lines then that we, the FA, could not be responsible for every

:46:15. > :46:18.Englishman abroad, responsible for the flans' behaviour in the stadium,

:46:19. > :46:23.and I think that is still the official line that Uefa will be

:46:24. > :46:27.taking today. So you would expect there would not be trouble inside

:46:28. > :46:33.the stadium for England- Wales, but I'm sure I saw a flyer in the rush-

:46:34. > :46:39.Sabatier game yesterday? I think I also heard that -- the Russia

:46:40. > :46:43.Slovakia game. There is an inquiry going on with the decision to take

:46:44. > :46:46.disciplinary proceedings against Webber set off the flare in that

:46:47. > :46:51.match and that will be taken into consideration. Uefa have very

:46:52. > :46:56.distinct responsibility in their eyes which relates to their

:46:57. > :47:01.disciplinary process as opposed to the line taken by French police

:47:02. > :47:08.outside the stadiums. Our audience is seeing live pictures from Lille,

:47:09. > :47:12.mostly England supporters, I think I can see a few Wales flags but I am

:47:13. > :47:18.short-sighted! Looks very happy, kicking of all around across the

:47:19. > :47:23.tops of them, it is being pushed around in a friendly, jovial way.

:47:24. > :47:27.You would like to think if Russia supporters stay out of the way it

:47:28. > :47:33.would be fine in Lille in the run-up to the game, do you think? This is

:47:34. > :47:40.one of the problems, the way the model was given to me in terms of

:47:41. > :47:46.English hooliganism was that the rank and file can go to bars, have

:47:47. > :47:50.drinks, and they were then marshalled by guys who were, if you

:47:51. > :47:56.like, the captains who organised the hooligan element. What has been

:47:57. > :48:00.successful has been the intelligence led approach, picking up and

:48:01. > :48:08.identifying these people then using a very un-British law excluding

:48:09. > :48:15.these people from organising and the dialogue with the German authorities

:48:16. > :48:19.and Portuguese authorities was if the English are in a bar and they

:48:20. > :48:25.are drinking, it may be loutish behaviour but it is far from a riot

:48:26. > :48:27.or unless something sparks it off. In the past, aggressive policing has

:48:28. > :48:33.been seen to spark it off, so we have advocated low profile policing.

:48:34. > :48:37.I'm going to pause you there, I appreciate your time, thank you.

:48:38. > :48:41.Mark Pelias, former FA chief executive.

:48:42. > :48:46.During the Second World War, on June 6th 1944, British troops

:48:47. > :48:48.invaded German-occupied France and faced near-certain death

:48:49. > :48:51.This decisive battle which lasted for about two months

:48:52. > :48:54.was key to bringing about the end of Hitler's dream

:48:55. > :48:59.It involved over 5000 ships, 11,000 planes,

:49:00. > :49:05.and over 150,000 service men from across the Allied forces.

:49:06. > :49:08.The average life expectancy of a new tank officer deployed

:49:09. > :49:20.And at one point during the war, the odds of people surviving

:49:21. > :49:24.But David Render, a fresh-faced 19-year-old at the time,

:49:25. > :49:28.He's now one of the very last surviving Second World War tank

:49:29. > :49:31.troop commanders to have taken part in the D-Day landings in that

:49:32. > :49:41.David, who's 91, is telling his story

:49:42. > :49:43.publicly for the first time, with a book,

:49:44. > :49:45.Tank Action: An Armoured Troop Commander's War 1944-45.

:49:46. > :49:54.Thank you for talking to others, welcome to our programme. By rights,

:49:55. > :50:00.you probably shouldn't be alive, should you? Certainly not! I must

:50:01. > :50:12.say that we were very fortunate to survive. In effect, it was basically

:50:13. > :50:18.due to our squadron leader, he was only 23 and he was a major in charge

:50:19. > :50:27.of A squadron, one of three squadrons in the armed Regiment, A,

:50:28. > :50:32.e-macro, and C, and he taught us, after he sorted out carefully how to

:50:33. > :50:38.fight the Germans, the German tanks were far run the way superior to

:50:39. > :50:43.ours. They had a gun, and 88 millimetre, that could lock is out

:50:44. > :50:48.in two miles range. Sometimes they fired at us with a little flash so

:50:49. > :50:53.we could not see where they had come from. As a tank commander, you were

:50:54. > :50:57.the one who had to stick your head out of the top with the binoculars

:50:58. > :51:06.and navigate, didn't you? Yes, indeed. So you were leading by

:51:07. > :51:09.example? Yes, and my men, unfortunately, were much older than

:51:10. > :51:14.me, they had been up and down the desert but two years, they did the

:51:15. > :51:19.landing on D-Day. I was 19, you cannot blame them, they resented me,

:51:20. > :51:26.as they knew I wasn't going to be around for very long anyway, so the

:51:27. > :51:29.fact was that I had really to fight two walls, one against my own men to

:51:30. > :51:35.get their confidence and the other one was the Germans. When you

:51:36. > :51:42.arrived, what did you see, what happened? I came over on a thing

:51:43. > :51:48.called a landing ship tank and I took 16 Cromwell tanks over and when

:51:49. > :51:56.we landed on the beach at about 4am, the noise was to reflect from the

:51:57. > :52:02.big battleships firing. They put the ramp down and the captain came over

:52:03. > :52:08.with some old-fashioned English words and told me to get my tank

:52:09. > :52:13.sorted quick. The first one went down the ramp and instead of hitting

:52:14. > :52:18.the beach in about eight foot of water it went on down, and it went

:52:19. > :52:24.down, and turned upside down, complete with the two men, normally

:52:25. > :52:28.a tank has five men but we only had two because we were reinforcements,

:52:29. > :52:36.and it turned upside down and disappeared. So you lost two

:52:37. > :52:41.colleagues immediately? Immediately, yes. The captain came over and gave

:52:42. > :52:45.me a touristic ticking off, and I didn't understand what had happened,

:52:46. > :52:51.but I found out 50 years afterwards that we had gone right on the edge

:52:52. > :52:56.of boss Paul in the beach -- right on the edge of a hole in the beach

:52:57. > :52:59.and the tank had fallen into it, so it wasn't really my fault at all.

:53:00. > :53:05.But I can tell you I would rather have been at home with mum than

:53:06. > :53:16.doing that. We were also being shot at by the German meshes met planes.

:53:17. > :53:26.It was not very comfortable. How afraid were you? I wasn't. Were you

:53:27. > :53:31.not? Know, there is too much going on. People ask me very often, word

:53:32. > :53:38.you afraid? The first thing that I had, as I said, to deal with was my

:53:39. > :53:43.men, and they resented me, so I decided the only thing to do was to

:53:44. > :53:47.show them that I wasn't afraid, and so I always led my Troop, which is

:53:48. > :53:55.the most dangerous thing you can do, of course, and as far as fighting is

:53:56. > :54:02.concerned you just have to take a chance on it. But the point was that

:54:03. > :54:09.we would fire at the Germans and then I would advance while we were

:54:10. > :54:17.still firing to the German line and then my Troop would come up with me

:54:18. > :54:24.afterwards and sort of kept their heads down, and that is how we won,

:54:25. > :54:31.and while I was acted that was how I won my spurs with the men because I

:54:32. > :54:38.kept coming back. I got called, The Inevitable Mr Render, in the end.

:54:39. > :54:43.What was the most dangerous time for you and your men? All of it was

:54:44. > :54:51.dangerous, to be honest with you, but there were occasions, like in a

:54:52. > :54:56.place called Cleves in Germany, there were houses on the left with

:54:57. > :55:00.gaps in between where Karadzic hadn't been built, and suddenly a

:55:01. > :55:11.tank in front of up to it in flames -- wet Garrard is -- to Rajs had not

:55:12. > :55:21.been built, and I was behind in a little though armoured car and all

:55:22. > :55:26.of us, there was a terrific bang and the inside of the car was

:55:27. > :55:31.illuminated with the bright light and I said, what was that?! I put my

:55:32. > :55:38.head out and looked and I was looking straight down the gun barrel

:55:39. > :55:44.of this huge gig German Panther, what we called a self-propelled gun,

:55:45. > :55:48.and it had just fired at me but because I had only got such a little

:55:49. > :55:53.vehicle he could not get his gun low enough so the bright light was

:55:54. > :56:04.actually the trace of the armour piercing shell weighing ?22.5-macro,

:56:05. > :56:10.travelling faster than the speed of sound, travelling inches over my

:56:11. > :56:14.head, and the trace was what illuminated the inside. That must

:56:15. > :56:22.have been one of the near squeaks. But I lost two tanks as well, I had

:56:23. > :56:27.one shot at and the other one we lost on minds, we went over a series

:56:28. > :56:32.of minds, blew the floor up and unfortunately killed our driver.

:56:33. > :56:43.That was in Germany. But I was in every action that took place. You

:56:44. > :56:48.eventually got back in 1947 without really physical injuries. What about

:56:49. > :56:53.in your mind? Well, that is the trouble, I must be a bore to my wife

:56:54. > :56:59.and a lot of people because I can't get it out, it is burned into my

:57:00. > :57:04.mind. If I am injured at all, it is in my mind. When I was running my

:57:05. > :57:07.company, when I came back I bought a bankrupt company and built it to a

:57:08. > :57:15.reasonable sized firm and everything, it was successful, and I

:57:16. > :57:19.had a very good right-hand man, and all I can say is that I didn't have

:57:20. > :57:26.time to think about it, I also drove racing cars, Formula 1 and so on,

:57:27. > :57:32.and all I can say is, at the end of the day, I didn't have time to think

:57:33. > :57:36.about it, but now I have not got the company, sold it and everything, and

:57:37. > :57:40.I do other things, and all I can say is that I have had more time to

:57:41. > :57:57.think about it, and just recently I'm absolutely flattered that a very

:57:58. > :58:03.important : -- a very important kernel has wanted to write a book

:58:04. > :58:07.about me and I'm flattered really that not only he but other people

:58:08. > :58:14.are interested in an old has-been like me! You are 91 and looking

:58:15. > :58:18.absolutely terrific, if you don't mind me saying so! Do you mind me

:58:19. > :58:27.asking this, how would you like to be remembered? I'd like to be

:58:28. > :58:37.remembered as a person who was to stand ordinary Joe who, when the

:58:38. > :58:45.time came, didn't run away from protecting my mum and dad and my

:58:46. > :58:52.beloved England, in principle. I am an Englishman, a British chap, it is

:58:53. > :58:57.the same as this medal here, I feel that it hasn't been really given to

:58:58. > :59:02.me only, it has been given to you, and to all the other people in

:59:03. > :59:06.Britain, because, let's face it, it is the French at acknowledging the

:59:07. > :59:11.fact that we stood by them as Britain when they were in deep

:59:12. > :59:15.trouble, and I think that is worth having. Thank you very much, David,

:59:16. > :59:18.a privilege to meet you, thank you for coming on the programme. Thank

:59:19. > :59:24.you for talking to me. Take care.

:59:25. > :59:31.David render. Have a good day, BBC newsroom live is next.

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