23/06/2016

:00:21. > :00:22.Hello, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire -

:00:23. > :00:25.Polls are open across Britain as voting begins in the historic

:00:26. > :00:28.referendum on whether to leave or remain inside the EU.

:00:29. > :00:30.In an exclusive interview with this programme, a 21-year-old woman

:00:31. > :00:35.from Wolverhampton talks about being the first person

:00:36. > :00:38.in the UK to get a court order against her father

:00:39. > :00:40.protecting her from female genital mutilation and a forced marriage.

:00:41. > :00:43.She asked for her voice to be disguised to protect her identity.

:00:44. > :00:50.It got to the point where I stopped eating, stopped hoping about my

:00:51. > :00:56.future. There was not any hope about my future. I fainted a few times.

:00:57. > :00:58.And US Democrats are staging a sit-in protest in Washington

:00:59. > :01:06.to demand tighter gun controls after the mass shootings in Orlando.

:01:07. > :01:14.You can help us win this battle, America. Hold your respect -- hold

:01:15. > :01:15.job representative up, hold these Republicans up and tell them we want

:01:16. > :01:18.a vote! Good morning from Paris,

:01:19. > :01:20.where we're recovering from a dramatic night

:01:21. > :01:24.at the European Championship. A late winner against Italy

:01:25. > :01:26.put Northern Ireland It also means Wales will now play

:01:27. > :01:47.Northern Ireland on Saturday. Hello, welcome to the programme,

:01:48. > :01:50.we're live until 11am this morning. Later we'll be finding out why

:01:51. > :01:52.thousands of prisoners in the UK who've served their sentences have

:01:53. > :01:54.not been released. Plus it's been a night of torrential

:01:55. > :01:57.downpours for many of you. Carol will be here with a full

:01:58. > :02:00.weather report before 10am, but do let us know if it's flooded

:02:01. > :02:05.where you live this morning. If you are getting in touch, do use

:02:06. > :02:08.the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE. If you text, you will be charged

:02:09. > :02:25.at the standard network rate. Our top story today -

:02:26. > :02:28.polls are open in the historic referendum on whether the UK should

:02:29. > :02:30.remain a member of the The Electoral Commission suggests

:02:31. > :02:34.that a record number of voters are eligible to take part, with more

:02:35. > :02:37.than 46 million people registered. Let's speak to Carole

:02:38. > :02:44.Walker at Westminster. The day is finally here!

:02:45. > :02:48.Jesko -- yes, after all of the campaigning, the polling stations

:02:49. > :02:51.opened at 7am and the decision they have to make, the question on the

:02:52. > :02:56.ballot paper, should the United Kingdom remain a member of the

:02:57. > :03:01.European Union or leave? In the last hour or so the Prime Minister, David

:03:02. > :03:09.Cameron, has been out with his wife, Samantha, to cast his vote. Just a

:03:10. > :03:14.short distance from here, casting his vote this morning, but of course

:03:15. > :03:22.after all of the rows and arguments today every single vote has an equal

:03:23. > :03:28.weight and every single vote counts. The polling station are now open

:03:29. > :03:34.until 10pm this evening. Once they close, the ballot papers will be

:03:35. > :03:39.taken to around 382 local counting centres, where the tallies will be

:03:40. > :03:42.counted up and each of those centres will make their announcements

:03:43. > :03:48.through the night. We should get the first result at around midnight but

:03:49. > :03:52.it will be around 7am, perhaps a little earlier, maybe even later,

:03:53. > :03:55.before we know the final result, which will be announced at

:03:56. > :04:01.Manchester town Hall by the chair of the electoral commission. So this is

:04:02. > :04:07.the first time that British voters have had their chance to have a say

:04:08. > :04:10.on Britain's place in Europe, only the third referendum we have had, so

:04:11. > :04:13.it is a big day, a big decision and a lot of excitement ahead.

:04:14. > :04:15.And we'll have a special programme with live coverage

:04:16. > :04:18.as the results come in for this historic referendum.

:04:19. > :04:20.From 9.55pm this evening on BBC News, David Dimbleby is your guide

:04:21. > :04:24.as the votes are counted around the country.

:04:25. > :04:27.He'll be joined by Emily Maitlis and Jeremy Vine - they'll be

:04:28. > :04:29.analysing the results as they come in through the night.

:04:30. > :04:34.We will be live in Manchester tomorrow morning as the vote is

:04:35. > :04:36.announced from Manchester town Hall. Rachel is in the BBC

:04:37. > :04:41.Newsroom with a summary The man accused of murdering the MP

:04:42. > :04:47.Jo Cox is due back before 52-year-old Thomas Mair

:04:48. > :04:52.will appear via video link Jo Cox was shot and stabbed

:04:53. > :04:56.in the street in Birstall A group of politicians has been

:04:57. > :05:03.staging a sit-in protest in the US It follows last week's shooting

:05:04. > :05:07.at an Orlando nightclub Our Washington correspondent

:05:08. > :05:11.Laura Bicker reports. A pledge to stop everyone

:05:12. > :05:23.in Congress going on holiday until there is a vote on stricter

:05:24. > :05:28.gun control measures. And so they sat,

:05:29. > :05:34.and there they stayed. The House cameras were turned off,

:05:35. > :05:36.but they kept broadcasting The debate on gun control comes

:05:37. > :05:43.as those in Orlando, Florida, 49 lives lost in the deadliest mass

:05:44. > :05:51.shooting in recent US history. But there have been calls

:05:52. > :05:53.for tighter gun controls The problem is the powerful gun

:05:54. > :06:03.lobby, the National Rifle Association, who fund many

:06:04. > :06:05.politicians' campaigns. They say any changes would be

:06:06. > :06:08.unconstitutional and take away the right of law-abiding Americans

:06:09. > :06:13.to carry a firearm. You can help us win

:06:14. > :06:15.this battle, America! Years of frustration, culminating

:06:16. > :06:24.in unprecedented political drama. 100 bills have come before

:06:25. > :06:27.Congress on gun reforms in the last five years -

:06:28. > :06:42.all of them unsuccessful. The House Speaker Paul Ryan tried

:06:43. > :06:44.to call the House back in session and ordered a vote

:06:45. > :06:46.on normal business. It wasn't easy, and

:06:47. > :06:48.the protest continued. One more vote on gun control

:06:49. > :06:51.might not make a difference, but this action just might resonate

:06:52. > :06:54.with some voters in an already The first person in the UK

:06:55. > :07:06.to get a court order protecting her from female genital

:07:07. > :07:10.mutilation and from a forced marriage has told this programme

:07:11. > :07:13.about how she had once lost all hope In her first national TV interview

:07:14. > :07:19.the 21-year-old from Wolverhampton, who we are calling Zara,

:07:20. > :07:21.has also told Victoria about the terror of trying to seek

:07:22. > :07:31.help. She asked for her voice to be

:07:32. > :07:37.disguised to protect her identity. It got to a point where I felt like

:07:38. > :07:43.circumcision is normal, you have to go through it will stop I went to my

:07:44. > :07:47.GP, I spoke to her, she was a Muslim GP herself and she told me it is not

:07:48. > :07:56.something you should be doing and it is illegal. And then I phoned NSPCC.

:07:57. > :08:01.Self-harm among inmates serving indefinite sentences in England

:08:02. > :08:03.and Wales has risen by 50% in the last four years, according

:08:04. > :08:06.Researchers say prisoners who are serving sentences

:08:07. > :08:09.without a release date are more likely to be in despair.

:08:10. > :08:14.No such sentences have been handed down since they were scrapped

:08:15. > :08:16.in 2012, but thousands are still being served.

:08:17. > :08:18.The Ministry of Justice says it is urgently

:08:19. > :08:33.There's to be an independent inquiry into a claim that live fox cubs

:08:34. > :08:36.were taken into the kennels of a hunt to train its

:08:37. > :08:40.Covert footage passed to the BBC shows the foxes being carried

:08:41. > :08:42.into the South Herefordshire Hunt kennels and their dead bodies

:08:43. > :08:45.Here's more from our home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds.

:08:46. > :08:48.In a rear yard at the headquarters of the South Herefordshire hunt,

:08:49. > :09:00.this man was secretly filmed taking young foxes to and from a cage.

:09:01. > :09:05.Anti-hunting investigators went in at night -

:09:06. > :09:07.Then hidden cameras twice captured this.

:09:08. > :09:10.Inside the shed is the hunt's pack of hounds, the soundtrack

:09:11. > :09:16.suggests something has attracted their attention.

:09:17. > :09:22.Within a few minutes, the man appears with a dead fox.

:09:23. > :09:24.Before they could be disposed of, the investigators removed two bodies

:09:25. > :09:36.and gave them to the police, along with the footage.

:09:37. > :09:39.Their spokeswoman, who asked not to be named to protect her safety,

:09:40. > :09:40.claims to have uncovered the training of hounds

:09:41. > :09:44.They don't naturally hunt foxes, they have to be taught

:09:45. > :09:47.to recognise foxes as prey, and not only to hunt them

:09:48. > :09:56.We believe this evidence shows that fox cubs were thrown

:09:57. > :09:58.or given to the hounds, because the bodies came out.

:09:59. > :10:01.Police have arrested three people on suspicion of animal cruelty.

:10:02. > :10:03.A hunt staff member has been suspended.

:10:04. > :10:06.Intentional fox-hunting with a pack of hounds was banned in 2005

:10:07. > :10:13.The Countryside Alliance said, if this is as it seems,

:10:14. > :10:18.it had nothing to do with legal hunting.

:10:19. > :10:22.Three-quarters of gay and transgender people

:10:23. > :10:26.still feel the need to lie about their sexuality

:10:27. > :10:28.or the gender they identify with, according to research commissioned

:10:29. > :10:33.The charity, which hosts a major festival in the capital this

:10:34. > :10:37.weekend, found that nearly half of gay men and a third of lesbians

:10:38. > :10:40.think twice before holding hands with their partner in public,

:10:41. > :10:42.and that half of those in same-sex relationships would not

:10:43. > :10:50.Researchers say fears over the Zika virus have led to a big increase

:10:51. > :10:54.in the number of women wanting abortions in Latin America.

:10:55. > :10:58.Estimates suggest that online requests for abortion pills doubled

:10:59. > :11:01.in Brazil and Ecuador, after the first warnings

:11:02. > :11:06.Health authorities in many countries have advised women not to get

:11:07. > :11:08.pregnant due to the possible risk of babies being born

:11:09. > :11:16.Tesco has reported a second successive quarter of underlying

:11:17. > :11:19.sales growth in the UK, the first time it's achieved that

:11:20. > :11:24.Sales at the supermarket grew by 0.3% in the 13 weeks

:11:25. > :11:28.Chief executive Dave Lewis said he was encouraged by the progress

:11:29. > :11:35.Conservationists have set out to save one of the world's most

:11:36. > :11:40.The wild mountain chicken frogs have been almost wiped out

:11:41. > :11:44.Now team at Chester Zoo has converted a shipping container

:11:45. > :11:46.into a climate-controlled haven for the amphibians.

:11:47. > :12:01.One of the world's most endangered and largest frogs.

:12:02. > :12:04.The mountain chicken's unusual name comes from its size and the fact

:12:05. > :12:07.that, in its native Caribbean, it is commonly eaten.

:12:08. > :12:20.But this once-widespread creature has almost been wiped out

:12:21. > :12:23.by a disease called chytrid, which is also linked

:12:24. > :12:27.Now conservationists have screened and matched up the 12 breeding pairs

:12:28. > :12:29.of mountain chickens that remain in captivity.

:12:30. > :12:31.I am actually inside a shipping container in Chester Zoo,

:12:32. > :12:34.and this is a quarantine area, which is why I have to wear these

:12:35. > :12:38.This has been converted into mountain chicken frog paradise.

:12:39. > :12:40.It has been divided into four private spaces for four

:12:41. > :12:46.The hope is that these biologically matched frogs will produce a new

:12:47. > :12:53.We're trying to put the best conditions for breeding

:12:54. > :12:55.here and hopefully get them breeding and ship them back home.

:12:56. > :12:58.A tiny tropical haven in the north of England could be

:12:59. > :13:04.a new start for a species on the brink of extinction.

:13:05. > :13:14.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:13:15. > :13:17.In a moment, an exclusive interview with the first woman in the UK

:13:18. > :13:24.to get a court order protecting her from female genital

:13:25. > :13:30.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:13:31. > :13:33.use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE, and if you text, you will be charged

:13:34. > :13:40.Let's get some sport power. What a night, it was fantastic!

:13:41. > :13:45.It was brilliant, this tournament came to life last night. It is a

:13:46. > :13:49.rest day today, and we need a rest after the final round of group games

:13:50. > :13:56.proved dramatic. The Republic of Ireland needed to beat Italy to take

:13:57. > :14:00.their place in group B, which they did. Robbie Brady scored just five

:14:01. > :14:05.minutes before the end of the game, while scenes of celebration from the

:14:06. > :14:09.island bench, the island fans, and Robbie went and found his brother in

:14:10. > :14:15.the crowd. They join England, Wales and Northern Ireland in the last 16.

:14:16. > :14:19.Listen to what it means to everybody involved, me included. I grew up

:14:20. > :14:23.waiting to play at this stage, dreaming about it since I was a

:14:24. > :14:26.little kid. To do it in the end of my family is the best feeling in the

:14:27. > :14:32.world. -- to do it in front of my family.

:14:33. > :14:36.You saw the scenes of celebration among the Republic of violent fans

:14:37. > :14:39.and players and the mood stayed jubilant. Striker Robbie Keane

:14:40. > :14:43.posted this last night, the players thinking after the match. -- Singh

:14:44. > :14:55.gained. The other game in group Esau Belgium

:14:56. > :15:02.beat Sweden 1-4 rewrote, Belgium through, Sweden out. England on

:15:03. > :15:07.course to face Portugal until, not far from here, the smallest country

:15:08. > :15:11.in the competition secured their first victory. Iceland jumped into

:15:12. > :15:18.second spot in group F thanks to a goal from their substitute. He slid

:15:19. > :15:21.in at the far post to give Iceland at 2-1 win over Austria and send

:15:22. > :15:27.them through. So, here is the last 16, Wales will

:15:28. > :15:31.play another home nation, Northern Ireland, here in Paris on Saturday

:15:32. > :15:36.afternoon. The Republic of Ireland rewarded with a match against the

:15:37. > :15:41.hosts, France, on Sunday. The tie of the round sees Italy take on

:15:42. > :15:42.defending champions Spain on Monday, followed by England's tie against

:15:43. > :15:52.Iceland. And if Iceland win that match, I'm

:15:53. > :15:57.not sure if Icelandic commentator will be able to cope. He, I think,

:15:58. > :16:00.captured the mood perfectly, showing what the first win at the Euros

:16:01. > :16:12.means to a country of just 330,000 people. COMMENTATOR: Care

:16:13. > :16:27.COMMENTATOR SQUEALS. COMMENTATOR SQUEALS. That is the

:16:28. > :16:34.best commentary in the world! Ever. Isn't it brilliant? Can you imagine

:16:35. > :16:38.if Iceland beat England? Where would that commentator go in terms of

:16:39. > :16:42.pitch and tone? What's he going to do next?

:16:43. > :16:49.Brilliant, I love it. If we have any Icelandic viewers, maybe one of you,

:16:50. > :16:52.I don't know, please can you tell us something about your country, I know

:16:53. > :17:00.three things. The population, 323,000, the size of Wigan. 10,000

:17:01. > :17:09.Icelandic supporters are in France. And several of your banks crashed or

:17:10. > :17:12.defaulted in the financial crash of 2007-2008. Icelandic viewers, this

:17:13. > :17:21.is ugly, send us facts about your country. -- this is a plea.

:17:22. > :17:24.First this morning, in an exclusive interview with this programme -

:17:25. > :17:26.we speak to the young woman from the West Midlands

:17:27. > :17:29.who is the first person in the country to get a court order

:17:30. > :17:31.protecting her from female genital mutilation and

:17:32. > :17:35.Zara is 21, she's from Wolverhampton and her parents wanted her

:17:36. > :17:37.to undergo FGM to secure an arranged marriage, to become,

:17:38. > :17:45.In her first national TV interview, Zara describes losing all hope

:17:46. > :17:48.for her future and exactly how terrifying it is to seek

:17:49. > :17:50.help to keep her safe from the very people

:17:51. > :17:55.she was meant to trust the most - her mum and dad.

:17:56. > :17:57.Zara still lives at home with her parents, with the two

:17:58. > :18:04.In this interview, alongside Zara - is Sergeant Sharon Smith

:18:05. > :18:06.and PC Jody Edwards - the West Midlands Police Officers

:18:07. > :18:09.who've been working with her since she first called the NSPCC

:18:10. > :18:16.For her protection, Zara is not her real name,

:18:17. > :18:20.you won't see her face and she asked for her voice to be disguised.

:18:21. > :18:24.First of all, thank you very much for talking to us.

:18:25. > :18:27.It was only a few months ago that you rang the NSPCC.

:18:28. > :18:37.Because I was really feeling pressurised at

:18:38. > :18:46.I'd been getting rejected so many times because I wasn't

:18:47. > :18:49.circumcised, FGM, so they would class me,

:18:50. > :18:56.I'm not respectable, I'm not Muslim, so there'd were many

:18:57. > :18:59.I'm not respectable, I'm not Muslim, so there were many

:19:00. > :19:04.then my dad told me that it's because you're not circumcised and

:19:05. > :19:06.they are saying you're not Muslim, you're not respectable.

:19:07. > :19:09.Some of them were being emotional and threatening

:19:10. > :19:12.him, that he's not doing his job as a father, so it got

:19:13. > :19:14.to the point where I felt like

:19:15. > :19:22.And when you say circumcision, most people would say

:19:23. > :19:32.And when you say you were being rejected, that was by men who might

:19:33. > :19:35.But it was not happening because you hadn't

:19:36. > :19:44.Yes, so I went to my GP because it came to a mindset where it's normal,

:19:45. > :19:46.I have to go through it, so

:19:47. > :19:51.I went to my GP, I spoke to her and she was a Muslim GP herself and she

:19:52. > :19:54.told me, it's not something you should be doing and it's illegal

:19:55. > :20:00.and your dad cannot ask you or say

:20:01. > :20:02.things like the family keep on saying, that you're not a

:20:03. > :20:11.So, she was explaining the long-term, so I just

:20:12. > :20:12.clicked on with what my mum's going through,

:20:13. > :20:17.Because your mum has undergone female genital mutilation.

:20:18. > :20:26.Urine infections, mental health and skin rashes.

:20:27. > :20:30.So it has damaged her physically and mentally you would

:20:31. > :20:37.Mentally, she wasn't really stable enough.

:20:38. > :20:40.She gets really aggressive sometimes,

:20:41. > :20:46.I would say not in a normal mental state.

:20:47. > :20:53.I would believe so because my GP was explaining about

:20:54. > :20:55.mental side-effects, short-term and long-term.

:20:56. > :20:59.And then she gave me the

:21:00. > :21:05.NSPCC number and said if things escalate at home, you need to phone

:21:06. > :21:11.Then, the other day, the conversation the same, people

:21:12. > :21:14.are not willing to get married to you and people are rejecting you,

:21:15. > :21:18.they are saying you are not my child because you're not willing to

:21:19. > :21:25.undergo and then I phoned NSPCC and I told them,

:21:26. > :21:28.I just wanted to know, what are my rights?

:21:29. > :21:36.They took a few informations and they said they would pass it

:21:37. > :21:44.As soon as they said police, I just flipped out.

:21:45. > :21:46.I was crying, police was the last word I

:21:47. > :21:50.wanted to hear, because that's how we are grown up.

:21:51. > :21:53.Being involved with police is something not normal.

:21:54. > :22:00.That's how they teach us within an Asian background.

:22:01. > :22:02.It's not someone who you should associate

:22:03. > :22:13.And she was asking for basic information, name, and she wanted me

:22:14. > :22:16.to come to the police station or she said she'd

:22:17. > :22:18.come to the college but I

:22:19. > :22:29.I went there and I just clicked on when I saw her.

:22:30. > :22:31.I felt protected, the way she was talking to me.

:22:32. > :22:33.She didn't make me feel like I was talking some

:22:34. > :22:37.alien language to her with my culture.

:22:38. > :22:45.She understood really well and I was surprised because there

:22:46. > :22:48.have been some times when I wouldn't understand my culture.

:22:49. > :22:50.But she understood and they never made me

:22:51. > :22:55.feel like I was in a police station or they are police officers.

:22:56. > :23:04.Before I bring PC Jodie Edwards in, I just want to ask you,

:23:05. > :23:04.Zara, how frightened you

:23:05. > :23:13.It got to a point where I stopped eating, stopped hopes

:23:14. > :23:28.There weren't any hopes at all about my future.

:23:29. > :23:46.And that's because you thought you were going to have

:23:47. > :23:49.to undergo female genital mutilation in order to get married?

:23:50. > :23:59.The NSPCC took that call from Zara and contacted you, PC Edwards.

:24:00. > :24:02.We can hear Zara describe how afraid she was about the police

:24:03. > :24:08.How do you approach a situation like that?

:24:09. > :24:09.Just constant reassurance, constantly.

:24:10. > :24:11.It wasn't just from the first day, it was

:24:12. > :24:15.I would make a phone call to her to see how

:24:16. > :24:17.things were going, also to update her.

:24:18. > :24:23.She just constantly needed to be reassured.

:24:24. > :24:27.Reassured that you were going to protect her or that you

:24:28. > :24:34.wouldn't pursue legally the parents or what kind of reassurance?

:24:35. > :24:36.She thought that she would have to stand

:24:37. > :24:41.But when I explained that I could do it,

:24:42. > :24:45.take all the information from her, and I could apply to the courts on

:24:46. > :24:54.And I think once that was explained and

:24:55. > :24:56.constantly reassuring, I think that was what did

:24:57. > :25:06.It was just all about the reassuring.

:25:07. > :25:10.We can prevent it from happening will stop and talking her

:25:11. > :25:17.through the orders as well and the process.

:25:18. > :25:19.And these orders are female genital mutilation protection

:25:20. > :25:20.orders and also forced marriage protection orders.

:25:21. > :25:24.Tell us a little more about both of them and also

:25:25. > :25:33.The process basically is we speak with the victim

:25:34. > :25:36.first, we get their views, explain the full procedure and at any point

:25:37. > :25:43.they can stop that progression if they don't want to go any further.

:25:44. > :25:47.But we explain everything, we will then go to court, a civil court.

:25:48. > :25:55.In this instance, we had to have a High Court judge.

:25:56. > :25:57.Yes, it can be done as an urgent issue.

:25:58. > :26:00.In this case, we got it in a week or two,

:26:01. > :26:09.then those orders have to be served on those that are responsible.

:26:10. > :26:11.In this case, it was Zara's father that

:26:12. > :26:14.we served the orders on and we had to fully explain

:26:15. > :26:17.it is illegal to force someone into marriage

:26:18. > :26:18.and to force them to have

:26:19. > :26:23.Once we'd done that and he understood the

:26:24. > :26:29.process, Zara felt completely protected and they continue in their

:26:30. > :26:31.family unit, as Zara's wishes, living together and go

:26:32. > :26:37.So the protection orders are served on your

:26:38. > :26:40.father in your family home, where you still live, and you are now

:26:41. > :26:42.protected from undergoing female genital mutilation and being forced

:26:43. > :26:57.By the law of this land despite still living with

:26:58. > :27:01.From the very beginning, I didn't want him to be

:27:02. > :27:03.criminalised, because, to be honest, he had

:27:04. > :27:04.never laid a finger on me or

:27:05. > :27:12.never shouted at me, so I know he loves me.

:27:13. > :27:21.community and this culture, they pressurise people, parents.

:27:22. > :27:25.So what in their mentality, what they're doing

:27:26. > :27:28.is right, so from the very beginning I told her, I need someone to

:27:29. > :27:30.explain to my dad that this isn't normal.

:27:31. > :27:32.We don't have to live with this community thinking

:27:33. > :27:39.The way they pressurise people is horrible, because I

:27:40. > :27:43.A few of my uncles would say that he's not

:27:44. > :27:47.doing a good job as a father or they would say we wouldn't come to your

:27:48. > :27:50.final prayers, we wouldn't let you be buried in an Islamic

:27:51. > :28:00.So those comments are harsh from a parent's point of

:28:01. > :28:04.They are trying to do the best for their daughter.

:28:05. > :28:06.My dad was trying the best for his

:28:07. > :28:08.daughter and I could understand his point

:28:09. > :28:09.of view and I wanted him to

:28:10. > :28:14.What is the atmosphere like in your home?

:28:15. > :28:21.But we had our mediation yesterday, so we are trying to move forward

:28:22. > :28:22.and he just wanted some time to

:28:23. > :28:26.come out from it because it's a big shock.

:28:27. > :28:28.And the mediation to which

:28:29. > :28:31.Zara refers is effectively you talking to him about what is legal

:28:32. > :28:41.That's already taken place when the orders

:28:42. > :28:54.But again, it is the culture, so it's very difficult for

:28:55. > :28:57.myself to sit down in their family home and preach that to him.

:28:58. > :29:00.So there are external agencies in place now and in fact,

:29:01. > :29:14.Talking in the same room about what's happened.

:29:15. > :29:16.It was very awkward in the beginning but

:29:17. > :29:18.during that session, it progressed quite well, didn't it?

:29:19. > :29:33.Despite the pressure you say he was feeling

:29:34. > :29:34.from his community, do

:29:35. > :29:37.you think he understands he can't force you into a marriage, he can't

:29:38. > :29:40.Yes, because there are certain conditions

:29:41. > :29:44.he has to set with, like he can't speak to his community again,

:29:45. > :29:45.changed his number and email address.

:29:46. > :29:57.There are some practical things that he can and cannot do now as well?

:29:58. > :30:03.Yes, in the orders, he can't encourage or assist another to

:30:04. > :30:05.remove Zara from the country or to assist anyone

:30:06. > :30:17.It's also about him encouraging others.

:30:18. > :30:19.I think that's a really important point to get

:30:20. > :30:26.It also stops the victim being taken out of this country to

:30:27. > :30:29.another country to have it done so there is full protection.

:30:30. > :30:46.I told them, I felt like I have got a new life, I was born again.

:30:47. > :30:59.What our audience can't see is that you've got a smile

:31:00. > :31:10.on your face, which is remarkable to see.

:31:11. > :31:12.And what our audience won't necessarily be

:31:13. > :31:16.extraordinary bond of trust that I can feel in this room between you

:31:17. > :31:19.I know, Sergeant Smith, you want to say to people,

:31:20. > :31:22.they really should trust people like you.

:31:23. > :31:25.We are specifically trained in safeguarding and I would

:31:26. > :31:28.love to encourage anybody to come forward if they think they're going

:31:29. > :31:33.there up and down the country, domestic violence units,

:31:34. > :31:40.People might not see it as domestic violence

:31:41. > :31:43.That is something we have to explain.

:31:44. > :31:55.It is time consuming but I would encourage anyone to have that

:31:56. > :31:57.faith to come forward and we will assist them

:31:58. > :31:59.and I want to protect as

:32:00. > :32:07.many people as I can, me and my team, in this country.

:32:08. > :32:09.What do you think about what Zara has done?

:32:10. > :32:14.She's had the guts to come forward and

:32:15. > :32:27.She wants to help others for that protection and that's

:32:28. > :32:32.I've got a lot of service in the job and it's made me feel really

:32:33. > :32:48.It's just a nice feeling, that we've protected

:32:49. > :32:52.I'm really grateful that you spoken to us about it.

:32:53. > :32:56.Thank you all for coming on the programme.

:32:57. > :33:02.Some comments on Twitter. One says, I admire Zara for her courageous

:33:03. > :33:06.stand. This tweet, a brave young woman sharing her experiences and

:33:07. > :33:10.how she has been protected. An e-mail, I wish her every look in the

:33:11. > :33:14.world, she is revolutionary. But those of you asking what exactly is

:33:15. > :33:18.female genital mutilation, it is a procedure where the female genitals

:33:19. > :33:21.are deliberately cut, injured or changed where there is no medical

:33:22. > :33:26.reason for that to be done to stop it is illegal in Britain. If you

:33:27. > :33:30.want to share that interview, go to our programme page.

:33:31. > :33:37.We look at fears that funding for HIV may be in trouble with the

:33:38. > :33:40.threat of future cuts. US presidential hopeful meets

:33:41. > :33:49.opposition from locals in Scotland We will speak to some people

:33:50. > :33:54.awaiting his visit with anticipation.

:33:55. > :33:58.Thank you for your facts on Iceland, I will read some in the next half an

:33:59. > :34:00.hour. Here's Rachael in the BBC Newsroom

:34:01. > :34:02.with a summary of today's news. Polls have opened in the historic

:34:03. > :34:05.referendum on whether the UK should remain a member

:34:06. > :34:08.of the European Union or leave. The Prime Minister,

:34:09. > :34:09.David Cameron, has cast his vote with his wife,

:34:10. > :34:12.Samantha, in Westminster. It's only the third nationwide

:34:13. > :34:15.referendum in UK history and comes after a four-month battle for votes

:34:16. > :34:34.between the Leave Torrential downpours have caused

:34:35. > :34:37.flooding and transport disruption in the London -- in London and

:34:38. > :34:42.south-east England. The London Fire Brigade said it was inundated with a

:34:43. > :34:47.date's was of course in 90 minutes and received hundreds of calls about

:34:48. > :34:48.lightening strikes, flooded properties and rising water trapping

:34:49. > :34:50.vehicles. The man accused of murdering the MP

:34:51. > :34:53.Jo Cox is due back before 52-year-old Thomas Mair

:34:54. > :34:56.will appear via video link Jo Cox was shot and stabbed

:34:57. > :35:09.in the street in Birstall A group of politicians has been

:35:10. > :35:13.staging a sit-in protest in the US They are refusing to budge

:35:14. > :35:17.until they get a vote on the issue. It follows last week's shooting

:35:18. > :35:20.at an Orlando nightclub The Republican speaker of the House

:35:21. > :35:24.has dismissed the protest The first person in the UK

:35:25. > :35:34.to get a court order protecting her from female genital

:35:35. > :35:36.mutilation and from a forced marriage has told this programme

:35:37. > :35:40.about how she had once lost all hope In her first national TV interview

:35:41. > :35:43.the 21-year-old from Wolverhampton, who we are calling Zara,

:35:44. > :35:45.has also told Victoria about the terror of trying to seek

:35:46. > :35:54.help. You can hear some of that interview

:35:55. > :35:58.again after 10am on this programme. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:35:59. > :36:07.News - more at 10am. Let's get some sport now with Sally

:36:08. > :36:16.in Paris. We have an Icelandic viewer here! Good morning to him. He

:36:17. > :36:39.has sent me a fact about Iceland, the gift mountain in

:36:40. > :36:49.Iceland -- the biggest mountain in Iceland is Eyjafjallajokull.

:36:50. > :36:53.Did you know 10% of the population of Iceland is here in France?

:36:54. > :37:00.Yes, people have been going on about that since the start of the Euros!

:37:01. > :37:05.The Republic of Ireland have joined England, Wales and Northern Ireland

:37:06. > :37:09.in the last 16, as they beat Italy 1-4 era prompting celebrations among

:37:10. > :37:18.the fans and players alike. His family were in the crowd. They now

:37:19. > :37:23.face France on Sunday. The smallest country in the competition, Iceland,

:37:24. > :37:29.are also through, they finished second in their group and now face

:37:30. > :37:32.England on Monday. England's women cricketers sealed an emphatic

:37:33. > :37:38.one-day series win over Pakistan at Worcester. They eased to victory to

:37:39. > :37:43.take an unassailable 2-0 series lead. And the weightlifting teams of

:37:44. > :37:50.Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus could be banned from the Rio Olympics for

:37:51. > :37:53.anti-doping violations. Samples from 2008 and 2000 Olympics were

:37:54. > :37:57.retested. And, in case you missed it, have you

:37:58. > :38:02.heard 10% of the population of Iceland is here in France?!

:38:03. > :38:12.I certainly have! Thank you very much, Sally. Some

:38:13. > :38:16.more facts on Iceland... The Icelandic language remains unchanged

:38:17. > :38:20.from patient -- ancient laws which means text from thousands of years

:38:21. > :38:26.ago is still easily read today. As Presidential hopeful Donald Trump

:38:27. > :38:28.prepares to fly to Scotland to officially open his Turnberry

:38:29. > :38:31.golf resort following a ?200 million facelift tomorrow, tensions

:38:32. > :38:32.amongst locals and those The controversial billionaire

:38:33. > :38:39.is a divisive figure locally. Some say his investment

:38:40. > :38:41.is good for business. It's not the first time Donald Trump

:38:42. > :38:49.has invested in Scotland - he built the International Golf

:38:50. > :38:52.Links Resort on a beach in Aberdeenshire five years ago

:38:53. > :38:59.amidst angry local protests. A billionaire businessman who prides

:39:00. > :39:02.himself on being an American success He's not entirely self-made,

:39:03. > :39:11.however - he had a very generous It has not been easy

:39:12. > :39:16.for me, and I started My father gave me a small loan

:39:17. > :39:23.of $1 million, I came to Manhattan, and I had to pay him

:39:24. > :39:25.back, with interest. He's now worth over $4

:39:26. > :39:28.billion, making him one of He's almost certainly

:39:29. > :39:49.going to be the He is determined to win

:39:50. > :39:57.because he absolutely Let's talk to the director

:39:58. > :40:22.of the film You've Been Trumped, Christina Auld is in Turnberry,

:40:23. > :40:26.where she runs a Bed Breakfast opposite

:40:27. > :40:28.the newly-refurbished resort. Also with us, Jonathan Shafi from

:40:29. > :40:35.the group Scotland Against Trump, which has organised one

:40:36. > :40:37.of the protests tomorrow. And David Milne, who lives 400

:40:38. > :40:39.metres from the International Golf Resort in Aberdeenshire,

:40:40. > :40:50.which is also owned by Donald Trump. And today, why have so many people

:40:51. > :41:02.near the International Golf Resort been opposed to the building of its?

:41:03. > :41:07.Donald Trump promised $1.5 billion of investment, 6000 jobs, a 450

:41:08. > :41:12.bedroom hotel, and here we are in 2016, he has not got a golf resort,

:41:13. > :41:16.he has built one golf course, a clubhouse, the hotel has never been

:41:17. > :41:19.built, but most importantly the unique site of special scientific

:41:20. > :41:23.interest which was essentially destroyed through the construction

:41:24. > :41:27.of the golf course has been lost forever, it has been lost for

:41:28. > :41:31.generations. All of the economic benefits were missed by Donald Trump

:41:32. > :41:39.have never materialised. But in terms of the SSI, this site of

:41:40. > :41:44.specialist scientific interest, he has been given permission to build

:41:45. > :41:48.there by the local authority in the area? The Scottish Government called

:41:49. > :41:52.in the emission or -- the initial plans saying it was in the interest

:41:53. > :41:55.of the country because the Aberdeenshire Council had rejected

:41:56. > :41:59.the proposals for the golf course because of the environmental impact.

:42:00. > :42:04.It is important, what we see in Aberdeenshire is really a microcosm

:42:05. > :42:10.of what is going on in the United States. Donald Trump saying he will

:42:11. > :42:14.be the president, look at his track record in Scotland, 6000 jobs was

:42:15. > :42:19.the promise, a few have been created, most of them low paid, so

:42:20. > :42:23.what he says and what he does are two very different things and it is

:42:24. > :42:27.important we remember that. Christine, you are looking forward

:42:28. > :42:32.to Donald Trump arriving tomorrow? We are, the whole village is looking

:42:33. > :42:36.forward to him coming here. He has made an amazing changes to the

:42:37. > :42:40.hotel. I am not a golfer but a lot of my friends are members and they

:42:41. > :42:48.said the golf course is just fantastic. They are loving it. You

:42:49. > :42:54.are speaking to us from your Ian B, has the investment benefited your

:42:55. > :42:59.business? The hotel and golf course has been closed for many months so I

:43:00. > :43:04.cannot tell you whether it is going to impact on my B and B business but

:43:05. > :43:09.I would hope so because when there is a wedding at the hotel I always

:43:10. > :43:15.get guests staying here. I advise them to go up to the hotel, have a

:43:16. > :43:20.look around, have a cocktail, it is amazing, what he has done to the

:43:21. > :43:24.hotel is absolutely fantastic. But what do you think about Anthony

:43:25. > :43:28.pointing out that Mr Trump promised thousands of jobs and I think it is

:43:29. > :43:33.a couple of hundred? I cannot comment, I take it he is talking

:43:34. > :43:37.about Aberdeen, I don't know how many jobs he has created here, we

:43:38. > :43:43.will probably find out in the near future. I just think he is good for

:43:44. > :43:49.the area, he is going to bring in a lot of revenue, the shops will be

:43:50. > :43:55.better, the restaurants roundabout, the historic sites will benefit from

:43:56. > :43:59.it. I just think that he is going to make a great difference to the area.

:44:00. > :44:05.It was very sad looking before he took over the hotel, the golf course

:44:06. > :44:09.needed with Fergie Schmid, the clubhouse needed refurbishment, he

:44:10. > :44:15.has done all of that -- needed refurbishment. David, you are about

:44:16. > :44:19.400 metres from the new golf resort and I gather you have put a Mexican

:44:20. > :44:23.flag in your garden in solidarity with the Mexicans that Mr Trump does

:44:24. > :44:29.not want in America if he becomes president. Why are you not a fan?

:44:30. > :44:32.I'm not a fan of anyone who threatens me and tries to use

:44:33. > :44:35.compulsory purchase to take my home away. Add to that the huge

:44:36. > :44:41.environmental destruction of the loss of this site of special

:44:42. > :44:44.scientific interest, and the fact that he promises the earth and gives

:44:45. > :44:48.you a handful of mud, an approach we have seen so often lately, and there

:44:49. > :44:56.is no reason to be a fan of this man. He says one thing and does

:44:57. > :45:01.another. He comes in and act like a bully and a dog. Is that not a

:45:02. > :45:07.complaint to make to the Scottish Government who gave him permission?

:45:08. > :45:10.We have done so but there are things the Scottish Government and local

:45:11. > :45:14.council has no control over, which are the individual actions of Donald

:45:15. > :45:18.Trump. You are seeing pictures of the Earth banks being put behind my

:45:19. > :45:22.house, it was without planning permission. He was told to remove

:45:23. > :45:26.them, it took him over six months to remove them, then he replaced them

:45:27. > :45:30.with another bank to block the view and the light and in a direct

:45:31. > :45:32.attempt to intimidate myself and my wife out of our home.

:45:33. > :45:42.If the truth there is a fence around your home? -- is it true? There is

:45:43. > :45:46.indeed, a cheap and nasty chestnut pale fence most of the way around

:45:47. > :45:52.the house. That has been constructed by his people? Yes, they came onto

:45:53. > :45:56.my land, argued about the title deeds, instituted by the government

:45:57. > :46:02.in 1956 when the property was first struck off. Put up a fence where

:46:03. > :46:09.they said the boundaries should be. Then send me a bill for the fence.

:46:10. > :46:14.What's your problem with Mr Trump Jonathan? Where do you start? I'll

:46:15. > :46:17.point out at the beginning is membership of the global Scot

:46:18. > :46:22.business network has been rescinded by the Scottish Government as has

:46:23. > :46:26.his honorary degree at the Robert Gordon University. Donald Trump,

:46:27. > :46:31.getting into the politics of it, there are some things more important

:46:32. > :46:34.than a nice golf course and hotel. He wants to ban Muslims from

:46:35. > :46:41.entering the states, he thinks climate change is a hoax developed

:46:42. > :46:44.by China. Donald Trump is a thug, he's encouraged political bile is at

:46:45. > :46:49.his rallies, it's well documented. We will organise a protest to

:46:50. > :46:54.reflect the broad opinion of Scots that his values are incompatible

:46:55. > :46:59.with ours. The demonstration on Friday will reflect that very well.

:47:00. > :47:06.It's too late, the golf courses are he's coming tomorrow. The thing

:47:07. > :47:09.about the Trump brand, it's damaging to the Scottish economy, you have to

:47:10. > :47:14.remember his rhetoric, his policies, he's been promoting, the sort of

:47:15. > :47:19.attitude he's been provoking in a very heated debate is actually

:47:20. > :47:26.putting people off going to trump establishments. To be honest we

:47:27. > :47:28.don't need Trump, don't need his investment, it's about standing in

:47:29. > :47:37.solidarity with those millions of Americans. Equally shocked and app

:47:38. > :47:42.or his rise in US politics. -- app or his rise.

:47:43. > :47:50.If he gets the view of the vast majority of Scots and people right

:47:51. > :47:53.across the world. In terms of Donald Trump's political views I have no

:47:54. > :47:58.idea where you stand, essentially not enough to stand in the way of

:47:59. > :48:04.you going to the opening of the resort, I know you've been invited

:48:05. > :48:08.by his son and him. We have been invited and I'm not getting into the

:48:09. > :48:13.political side of it, I don't know enough about American politics, I

:48:14. > :48:20.just know what he's done for the hotel is just fantastic. I have a

:48:21. > :48:24.feeling maybe if he hadn't bought the hotel it may well have closed

:48:25. > :48:28.down and it would have been like the mausoleum sitting in the Hill,

:48:29. > :48:35.ruined the village for all the people who live here. What do you

:48:36. > :48:39.say to that Anthony? I just think, first of all, Mr Trump has said he's

:48:40. > :48:45.invested ?200 million at Turnberry, his numbers, nobody has verified

:48:46. > :48:49.that, exactly what happened in Aberdeenshire. He claimed he would

:48:50. > :48:53.invest all this money, it didn't materialise. It's down to the

:48:54. > :48:58.dignity of residents like David, I call Forbes, Molly Forbes, Susan

:48:59. > :49:00.Munro, who stood firm and stood up to the environment which has been so

:49:01. > :49:06.tragically lost in Aberdeenshire, that unique scientific interest,

:49:07. > :49:10.those tunes will never be the placed, because they've been

:49:11. > :49:15.destroyed for golf course. -- there's sand dunes. We seem bullying

:49:16. > :49:18.and harassment of the local residents which has left people

:49:19. > :49:25.absolutely appalled at Mr Trump's behaviour. We need to remember that

:49:26. > :49:30.as he comes to Scotland tomorrow. Thank you all of you for your time,

:49:31. > :49:33.it'll be an interesting day tomorrow. With the result in the EU

:49:34. > :49:35.referendum, of course. Coming up - Self-harm

:49:36. > :49:37.rates rise in prisons - among thousands of prisoners

:49:38. > :49:40.who have no idea when they'll be released and said to be

:49:41. > :49:43.living in despair. There have been extraordinary scenes

:49:44. > :49:46.in the US Congress after a sit in that lasted throughout the night

:49:47. > :49:49.on the floor of the House About a hundred Democrats,

:49:50. > :49:53.armed with blankets and biscuits are demanding a vote

:49:54. > :49:55.on gun control legislation. It comes after the recent shooting

:49:56. > :49:58.at a gay nightclub in Florida. The protest was led by

:49:59. > :50:21.the Democratic Congressman and civil For months, even for years, I've

:50:22. > :50:26.wondered what would bring this body to take action rest, what will

:50:27. > :50:34.finally make Congress do what is right, what is just, for the people

:50:35. > :50:41.of this country have been demanding, and what is long overdue. We have

:50:42. > :50:48.lost hundreds and thousands of innocent people to gun violence. And

:50:49. > :50:59.what has this body done? Mr Speaker, nothing. Not one thing. We have

:51:00. > :51:03.turned a deaf ear. We have turned deaf ears to the blood of the

:51:04. > :51:11.innocent, and the concern of our nation. We are blind to a crisis. Mr

:51:12. > :51:18.Speaker, where is the heart of this body? Where is our soul? Those who

:51:19. > :51:29.pursue common sense improvement are beaten down, reason is criticised,

:51:30. > :51:40.obstruction is praised. Newtown, Charleston, Orlando, what is the

:51:41. > :51:44.tipping point? Are we blind? We're calling on the leadership of the

:51:45. > :51:51.house to bring gun control legislation to the house floor. Give

:51:52. > :51:55.us a vote, let us vote, we came here to do our job. John Lewis committee

:51:56. > :51:58.was passionate, wasn't he? The Republican Speaker Paul Ryan

:51:59. > :52:01.tried to regain control but was met with chants of 'no bill,

:52:02. > :52:18.no break' You can help us win this battle,

:52:19. > :52:23.America. All these Republicans... Tell them we want to vote. America,

:52:24. > :52:24.you can win this battle tonight for us.

:52:25. > :52:28.The Republicans switched off the House TV cameras

:52:29. > :52:37.but Democrats continued to feed live pictures via social media.

:52:38. > :52:48.Extraordinary scenes. Still to come, we'll look at fears that funding for

:52:49. > :52:50.HIV and AIDS may be in trouble with cuts.

:52:51. > :52:51.Downpours across south east England have led

:52:52. > :53:04.A wild and woolly night, especially in London and around the south-east.

:53:05. > :53:08.And the like 1000 lightning strikes. Almost half the monthly average

:53:09. > :53:12.rainfall total for June in just one hour overnight. It gives you a sense

:53:13. > :53:17.what it was like. The London Fire Brigade took 300 calls between

:53:18. > :53:22.1:30am and 3am, the amount they get in a normal day. They were inundated

:53:23. > :53:25.with the number of calls of people complaining about lightning strikes

:53:26. > :53:30.to property, worried about flooding in their homes, cars trapped. Quite

:53:31. > :53:36.an experience. This morning the clean-up continues. Reports of the

:53:37. > :53:40.London Fire Brigade taking people out of their houses by boat in

:53:41. > :53:45.Romford in Essex, east of London. And of course many other people

:53:46. > :53:51.reporting clubs and cars in flooded areas. It is affected schools and

:53:52. > :53:56.people's commute. Hundreds of thousands will have had their

:53:57. > :54:02.journey to work delayed. Half the London Underground lines affected.

:54:03. > :54:06.Major trunk roads closed, standing water on motorways, which has led to

:54:07. > :54:10.slow journeys. And people getting out of London today, rail services

:54:11. > :54:13.to Stansted and Gatwick both affected, and other rail services

:54:14. > :54:19.reporting cancellations and delays. In terms of trains, do they have any

:54:20. > :54:25.idea when trains will be back to normal? Problem is, as much as

:54:26. > :54:31.anything, major termini have been flooded, particularly around

:54:32. > :54:36.Liverpool Street, a big station for people arriving and departing from

:54:37. > :54:40.London. Rob Evans have affected sibling, leading to delays in all

:54:41. > :54:44.areas as trains can't get to the places they are supposed to continue

:54:45. > :54:48.onward services. It's the knock-on effect. The rain has stopped for now

:54:49. > :54:52.but we expect more torrential rain this afternoon.

:54:53. > :55:00.We'll get you over the forecast in the second. Some comments from you,

:55:01. > :55:05.thank you very much for them. Regarding the interview with is our

:55:06. > :55:10.role be brought to you earlier. The 21-year-old from Wolverhampton, the

:55:11. > :55:15.first person in the UK to get caught orders protecting her from her own

:55:16. > :55:21.father when it comes to female gentle mutilation and forced

:55:22. > :55:25.marriage. A tweet says, sad and horrific this still continues, even

:55:26. > :55:30.worse the poor girl is here in the UK. This tweet from Mahmood, Zara is

:55:31. > :55:33.courageous committee in her story is inspiring, all I can say is, I hope

:55:34. > :55:40.it helps others in similar circumstances. Why are there not

:55:41. > :55:45.posters in the doctors surgeries warning of the dangers of FGM? The

:55:46. > :55:49.body says great piece on FGM and forced marriage, I hope it helps

:55:50. > :55:55.other women and girls prevent this happening to them. One more, from

:55:56. > :55:58.someone on Twitter, Zara is so brave to speak out about FGM and forced

:55:59. > :56:07.marriage, well done to her. Richard was telling us about

:56:08. > :56:08.flooding and travel problems across the south-east. Carol, how is it

:56:09. > :56:16.looking for the rest of the day? Slight improvement for a time before

:56:17. > :56:21.more thunderstorms, and we're not all seeing them, it's the south-east

:56:22. > :56:23.and East Anglia affected. You can see from these weather Watchers

:56:24. > :56:27.pictures we've had flooding in Greater London, the cumulonimbus

:56:28. > :56:35.producing thunderstorms. Some of those earlier taken in Greater

:56:36. > :56:39.London. This is what happened, thunderstorms came across the

:56:40. > :56:45.channel islands, into the south-east of England and East Anglia.

:56:46. > :56:51.Overnight we reckon we're just under 1000 lightning strikes. They

:56:52. > :56:57.averaged at about 1000 an hour. In all those areas. In the hour between

:56:58. > :57:02.eight and nine is diminished to 54 in the hour, now almost gone as the

:57:03. > :57:06.storm continues to move away. In St James's Park London we have 40

:57:07. > :57:10.millimetres of rain, what we'd expect for the whole month of June.

:57:11. > :57:14.Going through the morning it continues to push into the North

:57:15. > :57:18.Sea, showers behind, but then as humidity and temperatures rise, once

:57:19. > :57:21.again, we see to understand is developing, coming across the

:57:22. > :57:26.channel islands and back into the south-eastern quadrant of England.

:57:27. > :57:30.Again, away from that, looking at sunshine and showers. Not a bad day

:57:31. > :57:35.for Scotland, blue skies around, a few showers. At worst, bright

:57:36. > :57:37.spells. Northern Ireland also have sunshine and showers with some of

:57:38. > :57:44.the showers in the afternoon heavy and Dundry. Northern England, Wales

:57:45. > :57:49.and the south-west, feeling pleasant in sunshine. Highs of 19 and 20.

:57:50. > :57:58.Getting back into the Channel Islands and south-east, into muddy

:57:59. > :58:02.conditions, high humidity and further downpours. More of the same

:58:03. > :58:07.in this evening's rush-hour. There is a risk of further flooding. The

:58:08. > :58:12.BBC local radio station will keep you right up to date with what is

:58:13. > :58:15.happening where you are. Through the evening you can see how they

:58:16. > :58:19.continue to rumble away. Eventually clearing into the North Sea. Behind

:58:20. > :58:24.them, dry conditions and clear skies, La Serra showers across

:58:25. > :58:30.northern and western areas. Not going to be cold, most of us will

:58:31. > :58:34.stay in double figures. What a difference across the south-east

:58:35. > :58:38.tomorrow, dry, sunshine. You will be very unlucky if you catch a shower.

:58:39. > :58:42.Across Scotland and Northern Ireland, showers from the word go,

:58:43. > :58:46.sunshine in between. In the afternoon, some of those could be

:58:47. > :58:49.heavy and Dundry. For western and central parts of England and Wales,

:58:50. > :58:54.sunshine and showers. Some of those heavy. You could catch one at

:58:55. > :59:00.Glastonbury tomorrow, but not expecting any rumbles of thunder. We

:59:01. > :59:05.start to lose the human ditty in the south-east, 22 in sunshine. It won't

:59:06. > :59:10.feel too bad. Into the weekend the wind changes direction, we import

:59:11. > :59:13.weather from the Orlando, a fresh direction from us. The first front

:59:14. > :59:19.brings showers, the second brings rain. To put that on the charts,

:59:20. > :59:22.during Saturday, we've got the showers. Some could prove to be

:59:23. > :59:29.heavy here and there, but not as bad as this. Looks like we have a lot of

:59:30. > :59:32.water coming our way. There will be sunshine in between. Temperatures

:59:33. > :59:44.fresher, it won't feel cold, but fresher than it has, temperatures of

:59:45. > :59:46.12-20dC. Heading into Sunday, a largely dry note, some showers in

:59:47. > :59:52.the East, the second weather front comes in, introducing rain. It'll

:59:53. > :59:58.progress east, not clearing until sometime on Monday. Feeling pleasant

:59:59. > :00:03.in the sunshine with highs of 22. Just to mention, pollen levels

:00:04. > :00:04.across the UK are high or very high except in northern Scotland where

:00:05. > :00:07.they are moderate. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:08. > :00:10.welcome to the programme The Prime Minister casts his vote

:00:11. > :00:16.as polls are open across Britain for the historic referendum

:00:17. > :00:18.on whether to leave In an interview exclusive,

:00:19. > :00:25.a 21-year-old woman from Wolverhampton speaks

:00:26. > :00:28.out as the first person in the UK to get court orders

:00:29. > :00:29.against her own father, protecting her from female genital

:00:30. > :00:32.mutilation and a forced marriage. Her voice is disguised

:00:33. > :00:47.to protect her identity. It got to the point where I stopped

:00:48. > :00:52.eating, stopped hoping about my future. There wasn't any hope about

:00:53. > :01:04.my future. I think it quite a few times.

:01:05. > :01:07.To see the full interview visit our programme page -

:01:08. > :01:11.Self-harm rates are on the rise in prisons -

:01:12. > :01:13.as thousands of inmates face living in despair with no idea

:01:14. > :01:19.And torrential downpours are causing flooding and transport description

:01:20. > :01:24.across the south-east. It is a rest day at the Euros and we

:01:25. > :01:27.needed after last night, it was so dramatic, the Republic of Ireland

:01:28. > :01:32.beat Italy to make it into the last 16.

:01:33. > :01:37.Here's Rachael in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:38. > :01:40.Polls have opened in the historic referendum on whether the UK

:01:41. > :01:42.should remain a member of the European Union or leave.

:01:43. > :01:45.The Prime Minister, David Cameron, has cast his vote with his wife,

:01:46. > :01:53.It's only the third nationwide referendum in UK history and comes

:01:54. > :01:55.after a four-month battle for votes between the Leave

:01:56. > :02:13.Torrential downpours have caused widespread flooding and transport

:02:14. > :02:14.disruption in London and South East England.

:02:15. > :02:16.Red "immediate action" flood warnings have been issued

:02:17. > :02:20.The London Fire Brigade said it was inundated with a day's worth

:02:21. > :02:24.It received hundreds of calls about lightening strikes,

:02:25. > :02:26.flooded properties and rising water trapping vehicles.

:02:27. > :02:29.The man accused of murdering the MP Jo Cox is due back before

:02:30. > :02:34.52-year-old Thomas Mair will appear via video link from Belmarsh prison.

:02:35. > :02:37.Jo Cox was shot and stabbed in the street in Birstall

:02:38. > :02:47.The UK population grew by half-a-million last year.

:02:48. > :02:49.Latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics show

:02:50. > :02:52.there were 65.1 million people living in Britain in June 2015.

:02:53. > :02:54.The increase was driven by net migration and

:02:55. > :03:02.A group of politicians has been staging a sit-in protest in the US

:03:03. > :03:07.They are refusing to budge until they get a vote on the issue.

:03:08. > :03:09.It follows last week's shooting at an Orlando nightclub

:03:10. > :03:13.The Republican speaker of the House has dismissed the protest

:03:14. > :03:27.The first person in the UK to get court orders protecting her

:03:28. > :03:29.from female genital mutilation and from a forced marriage

:03:30. > :03:32.has told this programme about how she had once lost all hope

:03:33. > :03:35.In an exclusive interview, the 21-year-old from Wolverhampton,

:03:36. > :03:38.who we are calling Zara, has also told Victoria about

:03:39. > :03:49.You can hear some of her story again before 11am.

:03:50. > :03:52.Oscar Pistorius has said Reeva Steenkamp would not want him

:03:53. > :03:56.The former Paralympian will be sentenced on July 6th

:03:57. > :03:58.for shooting Miss Steenkamp dead in 2013.

:03:59. > :03:59.His original conviction for manslaughter was upgraded

:04:00. > :04:05.In his first television interview since the shooting,

:04:06. > :04:19.I don't want to go back to jail. I don't want to have to waste my life

:04:20. > :04:22.sitting there. If I was afforded the opportunity of redemption I would

:04:23. > :04:27.like to help the less fortunate, like they have in my past. I would

:04:28. > :04:33.like to believe that if Reeva could look down on me, that she would want

:04:34. > :04:35.me to live that life. The thoughts of Oscar Pistorius.

:04:36. > :04:42.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30am.

:04:43. > :04:48.Thank you for your facts about Iceland, I appreciate them. I'm not

:04:49. > :04:53.sure if Sally does in Paris! I would not blame you if you are getting

:04:54. > :05:00.sick of this! Did you know that the majority of Icelanders believe in

:05:01. > :05:06.elves? I love them for it as well! I would

:05:07. > :05:11.like to know if anyone at home is watching, what is the origin of the

:05:12. > :05:15.celebration where the team go to the fans at the end and cupped their

:05:16. > :05:20.hands over their heads? It reminds me of a scene from Game Of Thrones,

:05:21. > :05:22.I am loving it. Maybe by the end of the bulletin someone will have told

:05:23. > :05:27.us! Great idea!

:05:28. > :05:30.This tournament really sprang to life last night with the final

:05:31. > :05:34.round of group games which decided all the knockout

:05:35. > :05:42.The Republic of Ireland needed to beat Italy to take

:05:43. > :05:45.third place in Group E - which they did by a goal to nil.

:05:46. > :05:48.They left it late though - Robbie Brady scored the winner

:05:49. > :05:51.for them just five minutes before the end of the game.

:05:52. > :05:53.Cue wild scenes of celebration from the Ireland bench, the fans.

:05:54. > :05:55.From everyone in there who was supporting Ireland.

:05:56. > :05:57.They now join England, Wales and Northern Ireland

:05:58. > :06:05.Of course the other amazing story from last night was Iceland.

:06:06. > :06:10.The smallest country in the tournament, and in their first

:06:11. > :06:13.ever major tournament they've made it through to the last 16,

:06:14. > :06:23.That's because Iceland finished in second spot in Group F

:06:24. > :06:25.after a late goal from substitute Arnor Ingvi Traustason.

:06:26. > :06:29.He slid in at the far post to give Iceland a 2-1 win over Austria

:06:30. > :06:33.So here is the last 16 in full, that game between England

:06:34. > :06:35.and Iceland takes place on Monday in Nice.

:06:36. > :06:38.Ahead of that, Wales will play Northern Ireland,

:06:39. > :06:42.at the Parc de Princes here in Paris on Saturday afternoon.

:06:43. > :06:45.The Republic of Ireland are rewarded with a match against the hosts

:06:46. > :06:49.The tie of the round sees Italy take on defending champions Spain

:06:50. > :06:57.A busy weekend of football watching for everybody, I'm sure.

:06:58. > :07:05.And in the end, Olly, the draw worked out fairly

:07:06. > :07:18.Well... For the next round, at least! I think they will still rue

:07:19. > :07:21.the fact that they are on that very, very difficult side of the draw,

:07:22. > :07:25.that is the repercussion of finishing runner-up to the Welsh,

:07:26. > :07:30.because if they get past Iceland then it is possibly the French next,

:07:31. > :07:34.if the French beat Ireland, then Spain, Italy or Germany before they

:07:35. > :07:38.even think about the final. They will not get too far ahead of

:07:39. > :07:49.themselves. Let me get out of the way because the England players have

:07:50. > :07:52.walked onto the pitch, the first open session since they got back

:07:53. > :07:54.from Saint Etienne and the draw against Sabatier, all 23 a here.

:07:55. > :07:57.They have had a couple of nice days off, all things for some of the

:07:58. > :08:00.players, time with their wives and families, a bit of shopping. But a

:08:01. > :08:04.fair few of them will have watched those matches last night and there

:08:05. > :08:08.was relief, because for a few minutes they thought they would be

:08:09. > :08:12.facing Portugal, but it was relief when they found out they are going

:08:13. > :08:19.to be facing Iceland instead. It should be to rip the atmosphere, a

:08:20. > :08:23.fantastic set of fans from Iceland and England, but Roy Hodgson is just

:08:24. > :08:29.over to my left here and he seems very happy and in a very smiley

:08:30. > :08:34.frame of mind this morning. Are we expecting to hear from Roy

:08:35. > :08:38.Hodgson today? Not Roy Hodgson but later we will

:08:39. > :08:43.hear from the captain, we believe. A lot of questions to him, he was one

:08:44. > :08:46.of the players that was dropped against Slovakia, rested, however

:08:47. > :08:50.you want to look at it. We will get his take on things and how the

:08:51. > :08:54.players are now fully focused after a couple of days in limbo, not

:08:55. > :08:58.knowing who they would be playing on Monday night. But now it is all

:08:59. > :09:02.about Iceland, forget about the European beasts that might lie

:09:03. > :09:07.beyond. Thank you very much indeed, we will

:09:08. > :09:13.let the England team get back to that Pilates!

:09:14. > :09:17.If Iceland win the big match against England on Monday, I'm not sure if

:09:18. > :09:22.the Icelandic commentator will be able to cope. I think he captures

:09:23. > :09:25.perfectly the mood, showing what the first win in the European

:09:26. > :09:31.Championship means to a country of just 330,000 people.

:09:32. > :09:57.COMMENTATOR SQUEALS. CHEERING. I think he is happy! I think so, he

:09:58. > :10:02.sounded reasonably pleased! I think he is really, really, really

:10:03. > :10:03.excited, he just cannot believe what has happened.

:10:04. > :10:07.Thank you, Sally. Thousands of prisoners in England

:10:08. > :10:09.and Wales have no idea when they'll be released -

:10:10. > :10:11.even though they've served It's called Imprisonment

:10:12. > :10:23.for Public Protection and, although no new sentences

:10:24. > :10:25.have been handed down since they were scrapped

:10:26. > :10:27.in 2012, many prisoners The Prison Reform Trust says rising

:10:28. > :10:32.self-harm rates show the "growing despair" amongst offenders on these

:10:33. > :10:36.kind of sentences. To give us more detail

:10:37. > :10:38.about all of this, let's talk now to our

:10:39. > :10:47.reporter Zoe Conway. What exactly is an IPP?

:10:48. > :10:50.It stands for imprisonment for public protection, brought in by

:10:51. > :10:55.Labour in 2005 and was only ever meant to be applied to 900 serious

:10:56. > :11:00.violent and six-year-old offenders but that is not what happened, it

:11:01. > :11:07.was applied far more widely and we ended up with 6000 prisoners on

:11:08. > :11:11.IPPs. Ken Clarke came in as Justice Secretary in 2012 and abolished

:11:12. > :11:15.them, the two reasons. He decided it was impossible for prisoners to

:11:16. > :11:19.prove, once they are inside, whether they will or will not reoffend, and

:11:20. > :11:23.there was also a recognition by the Government that the resources were

:11:24. > :11:25.simply not going to be there to help prisoners progress through the

:11:26. > :11:30.system. How many people have them?

:11:31. > :11:37.Despite the fact they were abolished, we have more than 4000

:11:38. > :11:40.IPP prisoners on the inside, 3300 have already served the minimum,

:11:41. > :11:45.many of them years over the minimum sentence. To give you an idea, 400

:11:46. > :11:52.of them have served their minimum sentence five times over.

:11:53. > :11:57.That is extraordinary. We have heard this morning about the rates of self

:11:58. > :12:01.harm amongst IPP prisoners, tell us about that?

:12:02. > :12:03.These are Ministry of Justice figures compiled by the Prison

:12:04. > :12:12.Reform Trust and they showed 2500 rate of self harm -- 2500 incidents

:12:13. > :12:16.of self harm amongst IPP prisoners, we don't know how often or how many

:12:17. > :12:22.are self-harming but to give you a sense of this what is interesting is

:12:23. > :12:29.the we are talking about 550 self harm incidents amongst IPP prisoners

:12:30. > :12:32.per 1000 of the population, but look at the difference with someone on a

:12:33. > :12:37.life sentence, it is more than double. Life sentences are sentences

:12:38. > :12:41.without a release date, people who know there will be in prison for a

:12:42. > :12:46.long time, and yet look at the doubling of the rate. What is

:12:47. > :12:52.interesting about this is that it suggests IPP prisoners, in the words

:12:53. > :12:55.of the Prison Reform Trust, are losing hope. You go into prison

:12:56. > :12:59.thinking you will be there for one or two years but seven years later

:13:00. > :13:03.you are still there, so the Prison Reform Trust says this is about not

:13:04. > :13:05.being able to see light at the end of the tunnel.

:13:06. > :13:11.If they have been scrapped and people are no longer given them, why

:13:12. > :13:14.are the people who are still inside, sometimes after years, not being

:13:15. > :13:19.released? The Prison Reform Trust would say it

:13:20. > :13:26.is about resources. A prisoner can wait years to get a parole review,

:13:27. > :13:29.maybe two years to get in front of one. The parole board could say, you

:13:30. > :13:34.need to do a course, and they could wait months to do the course. They

:13:35. > :13:40.might wait years to get on a course. But also the other problem with this

:13:41. > :13:43.is his point about, can an offender ever really prove that they are

:13:44. > :13:45.still a risk or not? How do you do that? Very difficult

:13:46. > :13:50.to answer. Thank you. Let's talk now to Shaun Lloyd -

:13:51. > :13:53.he was given an IPP sentence of two years and nine months for two street

:13:54. > :13:59.robberies when he was 18, but spent And April Ward, sister of James Ward

:14:00. > :14:06.- he was given a 10-month Now, nearly 10 years on, he is still

:14:07. > :14:21.inside and has no release date. I just don't know what you do,

:14:22. > :14:25.April, what can you do about that, how is your brother? He is not doing

:14:26. > :14:30.so well at the minute because he is up for parole but has been knocked

:14:31. > :14:33.back until September because they could not get the help reports in.

:14:34. > :14:41.They have had two years to get the reports, tending his parole, so now

:14:42. > :14:44.he will have to wait until September before he will then no doubt be

:14:45. > :14:50.knocked back for another two years to do all of the different courses.

:14:51. > :14:55.They taunt him with his freedom. When he first got the IPP, when

:14:56. > :14:58.parole came up it was like, yes, you have done your courses, kept your

:14:59. > :15:03.head down like they asked you do, then they come back and say, no, you

:15:04. > :15:09.need another course, you need to do something else. I'm trying to see

:15:10. > :15:12.the other side. The justification for that is that your brother might

:15:13. > :15:16.be a risk to the public therefore has to go through these courses...

:15:17. > :15:20.But he has been through them twice now and they are still saying he

:15:21. > :15:27.needs to do another. The one he has been told he to do a game, we have

:15:28. > :15:31.found that it is a substance course whereas James is suffering with

:15:32. > :15:36.mental illness, he has ADHD and a personality disorder, but the TC

:15:37. > :15:40.cause does not cater for that so we don't know why he has been put

:15:41. > :15:44.forward for it because he does not have a problem with substances, he

:15:45. > :15:49.is not a drug addict or an alcoholic. He has been put forward

:15:50. > :15:52.for a Beacon course for people with personality disorders but that is a

:15:53. > :15:57.new course, he has never been offered that in ten years. Now, ten

:15:58. > :16:02.years down the line, he has been offered that cause but it is 18

:16:03. > :16:08.months long, we know that in September when he gets knocked back,

:16:09. > :16:12.he has waited nearly a year and a half for parole for them to now say,

:16:13. > :16:15.you have got to do a course that you should have done from day one.

:16:16. > :16:23.Good morning to you, Sean, you had a two-year and nine-month sentence for

:16:24. > :16:28.two street robberies, you were 18 at the time, spent more than 18 years

:16:29. > :16:34.in prison, can you describe what it's like not having a date for

:16:35. > :16:38.release? Psychologically how to go through that, not know when you are

:16:39. > :16:41.coming out, what you said about the courses, sometimes it's like they

:16:42. > :16:46.could renew them for the sake of doing them, to justify you being in

:16:47. > :16:50.so long, they give you courses you don't have to do. I've done some

:16:51. > :16:56.courses twice over I shouldn't have had to do so many courses. That was

:16:57. > :17:00.hell for me personally. You are not presumably arguing with the original

:17:01. > :17:05.sentence you got, the minimum sentence, it's the fact it went on

:17:06. > :17:09.and on and there is no light? I deserved a prison sentence for what

:17:10. > :17:15.I did, two street robberies. Nine years of my life, what I've

:17:16. > :17:20.witnessed in those nine years, will affect me for life. What you

:17:21. > :17:26.witnessed inside. I've lost friends, countless friends have killed

:17:27. > :17:31.themselves. The things that will never go from my mind. The parole

:17:32. > :17:36.process, can you give the audience an insight into that, what happens?

:17:37. > :17:40.Do you go in a room and there are three people behind a desk, I have

:17:41. > :17:48.no idea. You go in the room, there are three judges, a promotion,

:17:49. > :17:52.offender managers, other people with psychological problems or whatever.

:17:53. > :17:56.Mike offender manager I only met twice, ten minutes each time, my

:17:57. > :18:02.parole document I was fighting statistics that said I had an 87%

:18:03. > :18:08.chance of being recalled within 12 months. I don't know how they could

:18:09. > :18:15.come with that statistic so precise. I've been out two and a half years.

:18:16. > :18:19.How did you get out? Basically on my seventh parole hearing... Yourself

:18:20. > :18:24.in? I told the truth, I told them I had enough of prison, deserved to be

:18:25. > :18:34.out, I'd done all the courses, I can't take no more prison. I just

:18:35. > :18:37.talked how I felt was right to talk. News from the Prison Reform Trust

:18:38. > :18:42.that rates of self harm amongst prisoners with these sentences is so

:18:43. > :18:47.high. How old do you react to that? James self harm is quite a lot, he's

:18:48. > :18:52.got no hope. It's hard as a family to keep giving James Hook after ten

:18:53. > :18:57.years. From the start of the sentence it was like, you can do

:18:58. > :19:01.this. -- keep giving James hope. James has done courses for ten years

:19:02. > :19:04.and there are only so many times. When parole comes now, we'll say, if

:19:05. > :19:10.you don't get this one permits the next one, just do your courses, like

:19:11. > :19:14.you say, do as you are told. He's done that and still parole have

:19:15. > :19:21.always got something like ridiculous courses. He shouldn't even be

:19:22. > :19:26.taking. It so they have a reason to keep James in prison, by putting him

:19:27. > :19:29.on any course, which is ridiculous. We've had two years for a

:19:30. > :19:33.psychological report on James and they still can't get it in time,

:19:34. > :19:37.still wake till September, it's not just a piece of paper, that is his

:19:38. > :19:42.life, they are keeping James in prison because they've not got that

:19:43. > :19:47.report. When I asked how he was coming you said he's not good, can

:19:48. > :19:51.you give us more insight? He self harms and has threatened to take his

:19:52. > :19:56.own life a few times. They don't see that, as a family, when James is

:19:57. > :20:01.winning, you know, I know my brother, I know when he's not doing

:20:02. > :20:07.well. -- when James is ringing. You have to say, I know you see no hope

:20:08. > :20:11.and don't appreciate your life, but we do. Eventually you'll get what

:20:12. > :20:16.Sean has got. It's inspirational to meet Sean today. He is married, he's

:20:17. > :20:22.been out two years, he a child. Total transformation. This is what I

:20:23. > :20:27.want to see James doing, he is desperate for Sean's life, and the

:20:28. > :20:30.public protection, James hasn't been in the public for ten years. The

:20:31. > :20:37.crime he committed was imprisoned. They gave him for... He came out, he

:20:38. > :20:42.got rested, the court report him to the police for the crime he

:20:43. > :20:46.completed in prison. He should only have done ten months, if James did

:20:47. > :20:51.the same crime today he would get ten months and do five. The IBC

:20:52. > :20:55.sentences have been scrapped. You heard the reporter talking about the

:20:56. > :21:00.fact Michael Gove is looking into this, is there anyone else fighting

:21:01. > :21:04.your corner? Doesn't feel like that, don't know if there is, doesn't feel

:21:05. > :21:09.like there is. There are campaign groups fighting the corner but the

:21:10. > :21:12.politicians I've heard, you know, different politicians saying the

:21:13. > :21:17.same thing all the time. It's not enough. There is no results, that's

:21:18. > :21:21.the thing you get people who want to help but nobody is getting the job

:21:22. > :21:25.done, which means James and Sean should never have got that IPP in

:21:26. > :21:29.the first place, the fact it's no longer sentence, why should people

:21:30. > :21:32.like Sean and my brother the suffering in prison with these

:21:33. > :21:35.sentences. James said he could understand if he had a sentence he

:21:36. > :21:39.would have hoped, he could get his mental health in order like you did

:21:40. > :21:44.commit you it was such mind-boggling, not knowing all the

:21:45. > :21:48.time. Knowing that parole would say, more courses. We haven't got this

:21:49. > :21:53.report in. It's another two years James will have to do. Come

:21:54. > :21:57.September. What about the effect on you and the wider family? It's

:21:58. > :22:03.massive, just like we touched upon with self harming, James tries to

:22:04. > :22:07.hide it from us, tries to hide he's been self harming, we went to see

:22:08. > :22:11.him a few weeks back and didn't want to see us, but he arranged it

:22:12. > :22:16.anyway. He had to tell us he had self harmed the cars we could see

:22:17. > :22:21.the bandages. Can I ask if you don't mind, how can he self harm, what's

:22:22. > :22:26.he doing? The first one he sharpened a toothbrush, basically anything, he

:22:27. > :22:30.said all different things, there are means and ways when you want to harm

:22:31. > :22:35.yourself. I remember a phone call a few months back he was in tears, I

:22:36. > :22:39.could tell he was mentally, basically, going to take his own

:22:40. > :22:42.life. I made him promise, I said, you can't do that, you don't

:22:43. > :22:47.appreciate your life, but we do, we will fight and get you to where Sean

:22:48. > :22:51.is. Let me read comments from people listening to you speak. Richard

:22:52. > :22:57.says, the prison system is broken, it feels like a waste of taxpayer

:22:58. > :23:05.money. Sophie says, IPP prisoners losing hope, still in prison years

:23:06. > :23:10.after a release date. It seems shocking two year before parole.

:23:11. > :23:13.David says, it's shocking, false imprisonment, and must be costing

:23:14. > :23:19.the taxpayer millions. That's the thing, to retry James or release him

:23:20. > :23:23.under tag where they can keep an eye on him, and James has a real good

:23:24. > :23:28.support network waiting to help him, to be able to get him in a good

:23:29. > :23:34.place, like I say, there are lots of other ways of keeping the public

:23:35. > :23:37.safe. This curfew, hostels he could go to, he doesn't have to be in

:23:38. > :23:42.prison. Taxpayer money, keeping James in prison, when they could

:23:43. > :23:47.release him to his family with the right help we could get him into a

:23:48. > :23:51.good... Where you are today. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming on

:23:52. > :23:58.the programme, a Paul Ward and Sean Long. -- April.

:23:59. > :24:01.The Ministry of Justice released this statement: The number of IPP

:24:02. > :24:02.prisoners has reduced over the past year.

:24:03. > :24:05.However, we recognise there are problems in the system

:24:06. > :24:07.which is why the Justice Secretary has asked the Parole Board

:24:08. > :24:10.to urgently look at how we can improve the way these

:24:11. > :24:42.There are over 100,000 people living with HIV in the UK,

:24:43. > :24:49.Six years ago, the government abolished the ring-fencing

:24:50. > :24:52.of funding for HIV support services which has lead to a gradual

:24:53. > :24:55.The latest threat of cuts is to services in the London

:24:56. > :25:02.Both have the highest instance of people with living

:25:03. > :25:14.So how is the drop in cash affecting these services?

:25:15. > :25:17.Let's talk now to Robert Fieldhouse, whose service ABplus in Birmingham

:25:18. > :25:19.has lost its funding and will close in July.

:25:20. > :25:20.Jacqui Stevenson who is an HIV researcher.

:25:21. > :25:25.Thomas Lange, a Lambeth resident facing the prospect of his local

:25:26. > :25:27.support services being decommissioned by the local council.

:25:28. > :25:30.and Dr Michael Brady, the Medical Officer at HIV charity

:25:31. > :25:42.Welcome all of you, thank you for coming on the programme, can I start

:25:43. > :25:47.with Doctor Brady, if I may? One of your centres is facing closure in

:25:48. > :25:50.Lambeth, why? A funding issue, almost a double whammy of funding

:25:51. > :25:55.cuts, you mentioned the loss of the ring fence so there is no protection

:25:56. > :26:01.of funding for HIV specific services and all local authorities are taking

:26:02. > :26:04.it cuts in their budgets, funding from central government,

:26:05. > :26:09.across-the-board. Both of those are impacting on this important HIV

:26:10. > :26:15.service. When it closes, what effect will it have? One of the reasons we

:26:16. > :26:18.are particularly concerned about Lambeth and Southwark, it's

:26:19. > :26:22.important in all parts of the country, but Lambeth and Southwark

:26:23. > :26:29.have the highest rates of HIV in the country, those services close, it'll

:26:30. > :26:36.affect most. Our other concern is it may almost become a test case, so

:26:37. > :26:39.people will say, if Lambeth and Southwark don't need those services,

:26:40. > :26:43.I don't need them where I am. What do you provide at the centre? A

:26:44. > :26:48.range of services, the important thing to note is they are provided

:26:49. > :26:51.to the most vulnerable people, the people with the greatest number and

:26:52. > :26:56.broadest range of risks and problems, whether those are mental

:26:57. > :27:00.health problems, alcohol and drug problems, welfare problems, people

:27:01. > :27:07.in poverty. Housing. Advice, support. The importance of advocacy.

:27:08. > :27:11.Often people struggling under the weight of all these economic or

:27:12. > :27:17.social problems don't have the strength or energy to make their way

:27:18. > :27:23.to services to fill in the forms, find things that are there, that

:27:24. > :27:26.specific focus and supporting people through this system are things you

:27:27. > :27:30.don't get in a generic service. Thomas was nodding in agreement when

:27:31. > :27:34.Michael was talking about helping the most vulnerable, told the

:27:35. > :27:44.audience your own story. I was diagnosed at the age of 18 in 1985,

:27:45. > :27:50.I was HIV-positive. I ran away from HIV, continued my career. In 2007 I

:27:51. > :27:58.became severely ill. I became homeless, lost my home, and I slept

:27:59. > :28:04.rough. Really suicidal. Didn't have any counselling. Until a support

:28:05. > :28:10.worker from the Terrence Higgins trust helped me get back on track. I

:28:11. > :28:17.was provided with counselling. Which was the first time I could ever

:28:18. > :28:23.speak to anyone about my HIV, my health, my future. They helped me

:28:24. > :28:29.get a home. Housing advice. Specialist lawyer. They helped me

:28:30. > :28:32.claim benefits because I was previously told I wasn't untitled to

:28:33. > :28:37.benefits. It was wrong information given by the council at the time.

:28:38. > :28:41.Without the Terrence Higgins trust I wouldn't be alive. I slept rough in

:28:42. > :28:46.the royal Parks for nearly a year. It was only because of the help of

:28:47. > :28:53.Terrence Higgins trust that I am here now. The statement we've got

:28:54. > :28:59.from authorities in Lambeth... Lambeth, Lewisham and Saddam are

:29:00. > :29:05.carrying out proposals to change the way people with HIV get support. It

:29:06. > :29:09.runs until the end of June. They are not acknowledging there is a

:29:10. > :29:12.reduction in funding. The consultation they refer to is a

:29:13. > :29:22.consultation on the reduction in funding. The Terrence Higgins trust

:29:23. > :29:26.and a number of other people, Thomas has a petition online, contributing.

:29:27. > :29:29.There is a cut in funding, if it goes ahead the specialist HIV

:29:30. > :29:34.support services will go. The suggestion is that the work we and

:29:35. > :29:40.other organisations are doing will be taken up by generic services. We

:29:41. > :29:45.know they don't have the capacity or skill to do that specialist work.

:29:46. > :29:49.Let me bring in Robert and Jacqui. Robert, you have been living with

:29:50. > :29:52.HIV since you were 30 and the centre you use for support in Birmingham is

:29:53. > :29:59.due to close in the next few weeks. Yes, the centre is ABplus in

:30:00. > :30:04.Birmingham. You have to understand the situation is people live in,

:30:05. > :30:10.abject poverty, we have a food bank where you can go twice a week, get a

:30:11. > :30:14.few meal. -- free meal. This service costs ?2 per head per day for

:30:15. > :30:21.someone to come in and access. That is dirt cheap. It's a voluntary

:30:22. > :30:24.agency. That's the reason it's so cheap, we spend too much time

:30:25. > :30:30.talking about the cost, not enough talking about the value. Very true.

:30:31. > :30:34.But there is a cost and when the ring fencing was abolished six years

:30:35. > :30:39.ago we had a Coalition Government saying we have to make the "Tough

:30:40. > :30:44.choices". Do you accept those decisions had to be made or not?

:30:45. > :30:49.What I don't accept is that anybody can do it cheaper, it's impossible,

:30:50. > :30:53.for the services provided, the access to support workers, food

:30:54. > :30:57.bank, peer support environment, where people can make friends with

:30:58. > :31:03.other people with HIV, can learn about HIV, it's cheap as chips.

:31:04. > :31:10.We have talked about London and Birmingham, Jacqui, you have done

:31:11. > :31:14.research into the effect on different communities of HIV and the

:31:15. > :31:23.problems are more pronounced outside of London? Yes, they can be. There

:31:24. > :31:30.is an organisation focus on women and HIV, Sofia Forum, and they are a

:31:31. > :31:33.minority of the population with HIV. Because the numbers are smaller

:31:34. > :31:39.outside of London, particularly since the ring fence was removed,

:31:40. > :31:44.services are vanishing. Is it easy because the numbers are smaller for

:31:45. > :31:47.the funding to disappear? I think it is, and it is twofold, firstly

:31:48. > :31:52.because the numbers are smaller and also because it is challenging for

:31:53. > :31:57.people with HIV to speak up and protest, to call for services to be

:31:58. > :32:02.protected, and because of that it is sometimes an easy target. On that

:32:03. > :32:08.point, you have all made the point about, particularly you, Robin, that

:32:09. > :32:13.it could not be done cheaper, but if I had to say, OK, you can keep the

:32:14. > :32:16.money but some of the organisation, group, charity, support network in

:32:17. > :32:20.your community will have the money taken from them instead, you would

:32:21. > :32:28.not want to suggest anyone, would you? Or would you? You wouldn't, we

:32:29. > :32:34.all realise the austerities and challenging financial environment,

:32:35. > :32:38.but I think a black and white brutal cut to services is not the answer.

:32:39. > :32:42.In south London, the Terrence Higgins Trust has tried to work with

:32:43. > :32:45.local authorities to see what we could do to provide services

:32:46. > :32:51.differently, maybe more online services to provide support that way

:32:52. > :32:54.and maybe obscure from other services. I want to read this

:32:55. > :32:58.statement from Birmingham City Council.

:32:59. > :33:02.This is not a cut. Funding has been reallocated from one provider to

:33:03. > :33:03.another so it is not the case that there will no longer be in

:33:04. > :33:09.provision. It is interesting, the contract was

:33:10. > :33:14.won by a drugs and alcohol agency who only go into people's homes and

:33:15. > :33:17.do a one-to-one, which is inappropriate for the majority of

:33:18. > :33:20.people with HIV. They will not give the agency is their home phone

:33:21. > :33:25.numbers, they will not want that individual going to their homes.

:33:26. > :33:28.People live with family who do not know they are HIV-positive, people

:33:29. > :33:34.in shared houses will not want a word that... I do not accept that as

:33:35. > :33:42.a model. But if that is the alternative, maybe people would

:33:43. > :33:45.accept someone their home? If there is no centre and the only thing

:33:46. > :33:49.offered is someone coming to your home... You are shaking your head? I

:33:50. > :33:51.run a peer-to-peer support group and I am aware of a lot of people

:33:52. > :33:57.attending because they have nowhere else to speak to, they cannot come

:33:58. > :34:01.out to their families as HIV-positive. So someone coming to

:34:02. > :34:06.the door is an absolute no? They will hide it from their families,

:34:07. > :34:09.hide their medications and often it means they do not take their

:34:10. > :34:15.medication and the only way you can stop HIV is if everybody with HIV is

:34:16. > :34:22.on treatment will stop the Terrence Higgins Trust and these charities

:34:23. > :34:30.will make sure they stop the stigma. Jacqui, you wanted to come in? I am

:34:31. > :34:34.doing Ph.D. Research talking to older women with HIV... Do you know

:34:35. > :34:39.how many old women there are with HIV in this country? It is a growing

:34:40. > :34:44.number, people are living longer and ageing, an increasing number of

:34:45. > :34:48.women diagnosed with HIV are already over 50, and the biggest issue for

:34:49. > :34:54.those women is isolation and loneliness. Women are telling me

:34:55. > :34:56.that in the absence of the support groups they used to attend which

:34:57. > :35:00.have been lost because of the funding cuts, they feel trapped at

:35:01. > :35:04.home, isolated. We know that loneliness has a big impact on

:35:05. > :35:07.mental health so it is not saving any money in the long run because

:35:08. > :35:11.you are building up the problems. As you would imagine I have a

:35:12. > :35:35.statement from the Department of Health.

:35:36. > :35:44.What do you say to that? How much did they use to spend on social

:35:45. > :35:47.care? A statement of how much is spent it blows and brushes over the

:35:48. > :35:54.amount that has been taken out of the system and I think the case we

:35:55. > :35:59.are trying to make, there are other disease areas like HIV that don't

:36:00. > :36:03.fit neatly into generic services and need to have a specialist approach,

:36:04. > :36:08.otherwise they will fall through the net.

:36:09. > :36:12.Thank you all very much for coming on the programme, nice to meet you.

:36:13. > :36:15.Still to come: Another chance to hear the story of a woman saved

:36:16. > :36:19.by UK court orders from genital mutilation and forced marriage.

:36:20. > :36:23.And, has the world forgotten about the desperate civilians -

:36:24. > :36:25.tens of thousands of them - forced to flee the Iraqi

:36:26. > :36:42.city of Falluja amid the most intense fighting?

:36:43. > :36:49.Polls have opened in the historic referendum on whether the UK

:36:50. > :36:51.should remain a member of the European Union or leave.

:36:52. > :36:54.The Prime Minister, David Cameron, has cast his vote with his wife,

:36:55. > :36:57.It's only the third nationwide referendum in UK history and comes

:36:58. > :37:00.after a four-month battle for votes between the Leave

:37:01. > :37:05.Torrential downpours have caused widespread flooding and transport

:37:06. > :37:09.disruption in London and South East England.

:37:10. > :37:11.Red "immediate action" flood warnings have been issued

:37:12. > :37:17.The London Fire Brigade said it was inundated with a day's worth

:37:18. > :37:21.It received hundreds of calls about lightening strikes,

:37:22. > :37:27.flooded properties and rising water trapping vehicles.

:37:28. > :37:36.The man accused of murdering the MP Jo Cox is due back before

:37:37. > :37:44.-- has appeared before the Old Bailey.

:37:45. > :37:47.52-year-old Thomas Mair appeared via video link from Belmarsh prison.

:37:48. > :37:51.Jo Cox was shot and stabbed in the street in Birstall

:37:52. > :37:56.A provisional trial date has been set for the 14th of November.

:37:57. > :38:00.A group of politicians has been staging a sit-in protest in the US

:38:01. > :38:04.They are refusing to budge until they get a vote on the issue.

:38:05. > :38:06.It follows last week's shooting at an Orlando nightclub

:38:07. > :38:10.The Republican Speaker of the House has dismissed the protest

:38:11. > :38:15.The UK population grew by half-a-million last year.

:38:16. > :38:19.Latest estimates from the Office for National Statistics show

:38:20. > :38:22.there were 65.1 million people living in Britain in June 2015.

:38:23. > :38:24.The increase was driven by net migration and

:38:25. > :38:42.Here is Sally in Paris. It is a rest day today and we needed after a busy

:38:43. > :38:45.few days at the Euros. As England prepare to play

:38:46. > :38:47.Iceland in the last 16 of the European Championship,

:38:48. > :38:50.the club future of one of their players

:38:51. > :38:52.appears to be sorted. Leicester City have announced

:38:53. > :38:54.that they have reached an agreement with Jamie Vardy

:38:55. > :38:56.to extend his contract He was the subject of a bid

:38:57. > :39:09.from Arsenal. So Iceland next up for England -

:39:10. > :39:12.their last-gasp 2-1 win over Austria last night meant they finished

:39:13. > :39:14.second in their group, in their The Republic of Ireland can look

:39:15. > :39:18.forward to a last 16 tie against France in Lyon on Sunday

:39:19. > :39:21.after Robbie Brady's late goal gave them a fantastic

:39:22. > :39:23.1-0 victory over Italy. That goal also meant

:39:24. > :39:25.Northern Ireland will now face Wales England's women's cricketers sealed

:39:26. > :39:33.an emphatic one-day series win over England eased to a 212-run

:39:34. > :39:47.victory to take For a number of weeks,

:39:48. > :39:56.we've been looking at the situation in the refugee camps around

:39:57. > :40:01.Falluja in Iraq. Although the fighting rages on, the

:40:02. > :40:04.story has fallen from the front pages.

:40:05. > :40:14.The city was captured by so-called Islamic State in 2014,

:40:15. > :40:18.but last month Iraqi forces and Shia militia moved to take it back.

:40:19. > :40:20.Amidst the fighting, some of the population -

:40:21. > :40:23.the lucky ones - fled their homes and made it to those refugee camps.

:40:24. > :40:25.We've spent the last few weeks reporting on the aid

:40:26. > :40:28.efforts in those camps, where food is scarce, sanitation

:40:29. > :40:30.is often poor and disease is spreading.

:40:31. > :40:32.Last week, Iraq's Prime Minister claimed his army had won

:40:33. > :40:48.That claim now looks premature.

:40:49. > :40:50.As the Iraqi forces have advanced on the city,

:40:51. > :40:52.it's allowed thousands more residents who were trapped

:40:53. > :40:54.in their homes there to flee to those camps,

:40:55. > :40:56.which were already over-populated and under strain.

:40:57. > :40:59.Let's speak to two people working with charities in the camps now.

:41:00. > :41:00.Jeremy Courtney is from an American charity called

:41:01. > :41:07.His team picks supplies up from Baghdad and delivers mainly

:41:08. > :41:09.food to the camps around Falluja on a daily basis.

:41:10. > :41:16.And Salah Noori from the Norwegian Refugee Council,

:41:17. > :41:17.whose team provides food, water, basic hygiene care

:41:18. > :41:22.and medical assistance to people in the camps.

:41:23. > :41:30.Jeremy, thank you for talking to us, tell us about the conditions in the

:41:31. > :41:33.camps right now. Thank you for having me. The conditions on the

:41:34. > :41:44.ground in and around Falluja are nothing short of atrocious. People

:41:45. > :41:48.cradling their disabled children, no attempts to shield them, no one

:41:49. > :41:52.coming to save them. It is unconscionable what we are seeing

:41:53. > :41:58.right now. The aid effort has been woefully underprepared and a lot

:41:59. > :42:01.more coordinated efforts, funds and support are needed to care for these

:42:02. > :42:07.people in their time of need right now. Salah, could you estimate how

:42:08. > :42:19.many more people have arrived in the camps in recent days and weeks? We

:42:20. > :42:26.are talking about more than 86,000 civilians fleeing the contested

:42:27. > :42:32.areas inside Falluja. This is since the 21st of May, 2016, but in the

:42:33. > :42:38.last six days we have not seen that many civilians since the vast

:42:39. > :42:45.majority of the civilians inside Falluja fled the contested zones

:42:46. > :42:55.since the 21st of May. Now the situation is getting worse inside

:42:56. > :43:02.the displacement camps, and more support is urgently needed, in fact,

:43:03. > :43:13.to avert a humanitarian crisis that could happen in the next days. We

:43:14. > :43:16.have a majority of internally displaced children that our

:43:17. > :43:25.children, women, elderly people and people with disabilities. They are

:43:26. > :43:31.collapsing from exhaustion, with scant medical services and aid

:43:32. > :43:39.available in the camps. The humanitarian agencies working here

:43:40. > :43:48.in the displacement camps are overstretched and unable to deliver

:43:49. > :43:59.at the moment food, drinking water and a six applies. We are running

:44:00. > :44:05.out and we will be unable -- and basic supplies. We will be unable to

:44:06. > :44:12.provide this aid for a long time. It sounds very desperate, despite your

:44:13. > :44:18.best, best efforts. Jeremy, I wonder if you are able, it sounds from

:44:19. > :44:23.Salah that so many people are going to the camps that Falluja might be

:44:24. > :44:29.pretty empty of residence, is that fair or not? There are conflicting

:44:30. > :44:33.reports right now, we have been as to go into Falluja city proper and

:44:34. > :44:37.serve the civilians that remain. As you noted at the top, the

:44:38. > :44:41.declaration of Falluja being free from Isis control is certainly

:44:42. > :44:46.premature, we are hearing reports of maybe 25 to 50% of the city is free

:44:47. > :44:51.and in the remaining parts there are still pockets where civilians

:44:52. > :44:55.remain. We have heard up to maybe 10,000 civilians remain trapped

:44:56. > :45:00.inside Falluja or somehow stranded inside Falluja. Isis have used these

:45:01. > :45:06.people as human shields, killed them with snipers as they run, when they

:45:07. > :45:08.try to feed they get maimed by landmines that prevent them from

:45:09. > :45:12.getting out so we are doing everything we can to get into

:45:13. > :45:14.Falluja city proper to provide those who remain with the food that they

:45:15. > :45:25.need. OK, I think Skype has frozen...

:45:26. > :45:28.Forcing people into their ranks. The screen froze but we got what you

:45:29. > :45:33.were saying, which is really important. You are trying to get

:45:34. > :45:51.into Phil Ujah but haven't managed to yet, is that right? -- Falluja.

:45:52. > :45:55.We have not made it into Falluja city proper, we're working with the

:45:56. > :46:00.powers that be to try and do that. One of our greatest concerns is that

:46:01. > :46:04.there are reportedly 10,000 detainees, prisoners of war, coming

:46:05. > :46:09.out of village, you've been captured on suspicion of being aligned with

:46:10. > :46:12.Isis. We are doing everything we can and demanding those people be

:46:13. > :46:17.treated fairly and justly. Islam teaches prisoners of war should eat

:46:18. > :46:19.before the army so we're doing everything we can with Muslim

:46:20. > :46:29.colleagues to make sure it's happening. From the Norwegian

:46:30. > :46:36.refugee Council, you said, you can't cope, despite best efforts, without

:46:37. > :46:45.more assistance. What good anybody watching right now, for example, do?

:46:46. > :46:50.Let me provide an example. The refugee Council can provide up to

:46:51. > :47:02.three litres of drinking water for displaced civilians. Another 30

:47:03. > :47:09.days. At the moment we need another 10 million. For the next six months.

:47:10. > :47:14.To provide food, water and hygiene kits to those currently in our

:47:15. > :47:23.camps. I'm talking about just one area, one displacement camp.

:47:24. > :47:35.Thousands of civilians... Are expected to get... Their situation

:47:36. > :47:40.will be getting worse. If urgent actions have not been taken at the

:47:41. > :47:48.moment. That's why the international community needs to step up the

:47:49. > :48:01.emergency funding. We risk letting down thousands of women... I

:48:02. > :48:08.understand. OK. Thank you very much, I really appreciate your time.

:48:09. > :48:15.As you may have noticed, we are keeping in touch with various

:48:16. > :48:17.charities working in those refugee camps every week. We'll continue to

:48:18. > :48:21.do so. Earlier in the programme,

:48:22. > :48:23.we spoke exclusively to the young woman who is the first person

:48:24. > :48:26.in the country to get two court orders - one

:48:27. > :48:28.from protecting her from a forced marriage, and one from female

:48:29. > :48:33.genital mutilation. Zara is 21, she's from

:48:34. > :48:35.Wolverhampton, and her parents wanted her to undergo FGM to secure

:48:36. > :48:38.an arranged marriage. Female genital mutilation

:48:39. > :48:40.is a procedure where the female genitals are deliberately cut,

:48:41. > :48:44.injured or changed, but where there's no medical reason

:48:45. > :48:46.for this to be done. Zara was terrified by

:48:47. > :48:53.the prospect and sought help. First her GP - who told Zara that

:48:54. > :48:57.FGM was illegal, and then the NSPCC It was West Midlands Police

:48:58. > :49:03.who secured the two orders protecting Zara from her own

:49:04. > :49:06.parents, despite the fact that she In this interview, alongside Zara -

:49:07. > :49:14.is Sergeant Sharon Smith and PC Jody Edwards - the West

:49:15. > :49:16.Midlands Police Officers who have been working

:49:17. > :49:18.with her for the last few months. For her protection -

:49:19. > :49:21.Zara is not her real name, you won't see her face and her words

:49:22. > :49:46.are spoken for her... I'd been getting rejected so many

:49:47. > :49:49.times because I wasn't circumcised, FGM, so

:49:50. > :49:51.they would class me, I'm not respectable,

:49:52. > :49:54.I'm not Muslim, so there'd were many then my dad told me that it's

:49:55. > :49:58.because you're not circumcised and they are saying you're not Muslim,

:49:59. > :50:00.you're not respectable. Some of them were being

:50:01. > :50:02.emotional and threatening him, that he's not doing his job

:50:03. > :50:05.as a father, so it got to the point where I felt

:50:06. > :50:07.like I went to my GP, I spoke to her and

:50:08. > :50:20.she was a Muslim GP herself and she told me, it's not something

:50:21. > :50:24.you should be doing and it's illegal and your dad cannot ask

:50:25. > :50:26.you or say things like the family keep

:50:27. > :50:29.on saying, that you're not a They took a few informations

:50:30. > :50:46.and they said they would pass it As soon as they said police,

:50:47. > :50:49.I just flipped out. I was crying, police was the last

:50:50. > :50:51.word I wanted to hear, because that's

:50:52. > :51:21.how we are grown up. The NSPCC took that call from Zara

:51:22. > :51:24.and contacted you, PC Edwards. We can hear Zara describe how afraid

:51:25. > :51:27.she was about the police How do you approach

:51:28. > :51:30.a situation like that? Just constant

:51:31. > :51:31.reassurance, constantly. It wasn't just from

:51:32. > :51:33.the first day, it was I would make a phone

:51:34. > :51:37.call to her to see how things were going,

:51:38. > :51:39.also to update her. She just constantly

:51:40. > :51:41.needed to be reassured. And these orders are female genital

:51:42. > :51:43.mutilation protection orders and also forced marriage

:51:44. > :51:45.protection orders. Tell us a little more

:51:46. > :51:48.about both of them and also The process basically

:51:49. > :51:53.is we speak with the victim first, we get their views, explain

:51:54. > :51:58.the full procedure and at any point they can stop that progression if

:51:59. > :52:01.they don't want to go any further. But we explain everything, we will

:52:02. > :52:04.then go to court, a civil court. In this instance, we had

:52:05. > :52:11.to have a High Court judge. Yes, it can be done

:52:12. > :52:14.as an urgent issue. In this case, we got

:52:15. > :52:18.it in a week or two, then those orders have to be served

:52:19. > :52:24.on those that are responsible. In this case, it was

:52:25. > :52:28.Zara's father that we served the orders

:52:29. > :52:30.on and we had to fully explain it is illegal to force

:52:31. > :52:33.someone into marriage and to force them to

:52:34. > :52:35.have Once we'd done that

:52:36. > :52:40.and he understood the process, Zara felt completely

:52:41. > :52:42.protected and they continue in their family unit, as Zara's wishes,

:52:43. > :52:44.living together and go So the protection orders

:52:45. > :52:55.are served on your father in your family home, where

:52:56. > :52:58.you still live, and you are now protected from undergoing female

:52:59. > :53:00.genital mutilation and being forced By the law of this land

:53:01. > :53:13.despite still living with From the very beginning,

:53:14. > :53:18.I didn't want him to be criminalised, because,

:53:19. > :53:20.to be honest, he had never laid a finger on me

:53:21. > :53:23.or never shouted at me,

:53:24. > :53:31.so I know he loves me. community and this culture,

:53:32. > :53:50.they pressurise people, parents. I told them, I felt like I have got

:53:51. > :53:56.a new life, I was born again. What our audience can't see

:53:57. > :54:00.is that you've got a smile on your face, which

:54:01. > :54:02.is remarkable to see. And what our audience

:54:03. > :54:05.won't necessarily be extraordinary bond of trust that

:54:06. > :54:11.I can feel in this room between you I know, Sergeant Smith,

:54:12. > :54:16.you want to say to people, they really should trust

:54:17. > :54:18.people like you. We are specifically trained

:54:19. > :54:24.in safeguarding and I would love to encourage anybody to come

:54:25. > :54:27.forward if they think they're going there up and down the country,

:54:28. > :54:32.domestic violence units, The full interview on our programme

:54:33. > :54:41.page. Earlier in the programme we heard

:54:42. > :54:43.some of the interview Reeva Steenkamp would not want him

:54:44. > :54:59.to go back to prison for her murder. I want to see how stable you are

:55:00. > :55:09.when not on your prosthetic limbs. You want me to walk without my

:55:10. > :55:14.limbs? Would you do that for me? They try and say I broke down the

:55:15. > :55:18.door with a cricket back standing on my stumps, I can't even hold a

:55:19. > :55:23.cricket bat up if I don't have my arms to balance. Vermaak on the door

:55:24. > :55:29.was too high to have it, if I'd had my legs off. I don't have balance,

:55:30. > :55:36.it's why I put my legs on the night get up in the morning. It's painful

:55:37. > :55:40.to walk far distances. I can't run away. I can't defend myself.

:55:41. > :55:49.I don't want to go back to jail, I don't want to have to waste my life

:55:50. > :55:53.sitting there. If I was afforded the opportunity of redemption, I'd like

:55:54. > :55:59.to help the less fortunate like I have in my past. I'd like to believe

:56:00. > :56:06.if Reeva could look down upon me, she would want me to live that life.

:56:07. > :56:10.I want to try and integrate myself back into society as much as I can,

:56:11. > :56:16.but being infamous and famous is a difficult things are sometimes

:56:17. > :56:20.people are very caring, then other times people... I went to go grocery

:56:21. > :56:23.shopping the other day, a woman came in and started screaming at

:56:24. > :56:27.security, how can you allow a murder at a shop in this shop? I'm not

:56:28. > :56:33.going to support you. She made such a scene I put the basket down and

:56:34. > :56:38.walked out. You can see that for interview tomorrow night at 9pm.

:56:39. > :56:43.Lots of flooding in the south-east of England. Charlie is in Romford,

:56:44. > :56:48.what's it like? Still pretty bad, can't get out of the house, Fire and

:56:49. > :56:51.rescue people down the road with a boat, ferrying people up and down

:56:52. > :56:55.the road, getting shopping and stuff. You can't get out of the

:56:56. > :57:00.house? We still can't get out of the house. We are showing your footage

:57:01. > :57:06.to the audience right now. It's bad. It's very bad. We have to help

:57:07. > :57:13.people push their cars down the road. Is it in the home, has it

:57:14. > :57:18.wrecked the carpets and furniture? It was in the front porch, our house

:57:19. > :57:26.wasn't it too badly, it's people hit badly further down the road. Our car

:57:27. > :57:31.outside is affected. It's a clean-up time now presumably? Definitely

:57:32. > :57:36.clean-up time, we've got a lot to do do and a lot of people to help out.

:57:37. > :57:40.Thanks for giving us a minute when you've got more important things to

:57:41. > :57:44.do, frankly. Thank you very much. Charlie in Romford. Thank you for

:57:45. > :57:51.your many messages today, quite a lot about female genital mutilation

:57:52. > :57:54.and some of you say it's really important we report on stories like

:57:55. > :57:59.this, so thank you for those. Quite a lot of you shocked about those

:58:00. > :58:04.indeterminate sentences, those prison sentences where you don't get

:58:05. > :58:08.a release date. Those of you who sent me facts about Iceland, they

:58:09. > :58:13.only managed to read a few but they really did entertain us, so thank

:58:14. > :58:15.you. BBC newsroom live is coming up next. Have a good day. Back tomorrow

:58:16. > :58:50.live from Manchester. And did I mention

:58:51. > :58:53.he wrote some books, too?