28/07/2016

:00:14. > :00:21.It is Thursday, nine o'clock, I am Jeremy Gosling. -- Joanna Gosling.

:00:22. > :00:24.Lloyds Bank has announced it is axing a further 3,000 jobs

:00:25. > :00:26.and doubling its planned branch closures, with 200 more

:00:27. > :00:29.to be go from the UK's high-streets by the end of 2017.

:00:30. > :00:32.The cuts are in addition to the 9,000 job and 200 branch

:00:33. > :00:41.The man in charge of the bank is blaming brexit.

:00:42. > :00:43.We are talking exclusively to a woman who's dad died

:00:44. > :00:46.in hospital after doctors decided wrongly that his life could not be

:00:47. > :00:49.They used the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway and have

:00:50. > :00:58.admitted for the first time that it killed him.

:00:59. > :01:00.Should the photos of terrorists be splashed across the media?

:01:01. > :01:02.France's leading newspaper is banning them - saying it

:01:03. > :01:09.gives them the publicity and glory they crave.

:01:10. > :01:15.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:16. > :01:18.Lots coming up, do you think that the names and photos

:01:19. > :01:20.of terrorists should be published - does it give them the

:01:21. > :01:24.Tell us what you think as a leading french newsaper has

:01:25. > :01:34.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:01:35. > :01:37.use the hashtag VictoriaLive and If you text, you will be charged

:01:38. > :01:41.Lloyds Banking Group is cutting a further 3,000 jobs

:01:42. > :01:44.The high street lender - still ten per cent

:01:45. > :01:47.owned by the taxpayer - says it's preparing for a cut

:01:48. > :01:50.in interest rates after last month's vote to leave the EU.

:01:51. > :01:52.Let's go straight to our Business Correspondent Ben Thompson

:01:53. > :01:54.who has all the details - he's at the London Stock

:01:55. > :02:11.They are blaming breaks it, tell us why taking this action. Looks like

:02:12. > :02:16.cannot hear us. We cannot go to him. We will check in with then a little

:02:17. > :02:21.later to get more on exactly what is happening with Lloyds, and why they

:02:22. > :02:27.say breaks it is to blame. Actually, I think you can hear us now. Can you

:02:28. > :02:33.hear me? I can, welcome to the stock exchange. Technical gremlins getting

:02:34. > :02:36.in the way. Nevertheless we are talking about Lloyds, a raft of

:02:37. > :02:41.details coming through from all sorts of businesses. Lloyd is one of

:02:42. > :02:46.the crucial ones. Recapping on what he said in the introduction. Another

:02:47. > :02:51.3000 jobs to go at Lloyd's, on top of the 9000 already announced last

:02:52. > :02:59.year, taking to 12,000 across the country. Also more branch closures.

:03:00. > :03:03.Closing another 200 branches up and down the UK. By this time next year

:03:04. > :03:09.400 will have disappeared from our high street. Why are they doing it?

:03:10. > :03:13.They have blamed breaks it, because of the record low interest rates,

:03:14. > :03:18.there is an expectation that the cost of borrowing will fall further.

:03:19. > :03:21.That means the profit margin that the banks can charge, on loans and

:03:22. > :03:27.mortgages get smaller and smaller. Making less money. Pointing to the

:03:28. > :03:33.fact we're changing the way we our banking. Not going into bank

:03:34. > :03:38.branches, doing it on our phones and mobiles, tablets and computers

:03:39. > :03:42.instead. They want to save about ?400 million. Announcing plans to

:03:43. > :03:49.cut those jobs, close those branches this morning. The biggest fall is on

:03:50. > :03:54.the stock market, Lloyds down almost two and three quarters of a percent.

:03:55. > :03:57.That is what investors are thinking. Not going down well with people

:03:58. > :04:03.campaigning to keep branches open. All of this coming at the same time,

:04:04. > :04:12.that they have announced pre-tax profits doubling to ?2.5 billion.

:04:13. > :04:19.All other factors they are citing as reasons for job losses and closures

:04:20. > :04:24.could apply to any banks, we will expect others to do similar? We have

:04:25. > :04:28.seen a raft of bank closures and lay-offs in the past few years.

:04:29. > :04:32.Largely as a result of the changing weight weedy banking. When was the

:04:33. > :04:37.last time you went to a branch, paid in a cheque over-the-counter? That

:04:38. > :04:43.has changed. Progress suggests it will go one. More of us using mobile

:04:44. > :04:47.phones to do our banking. Contactless payments, credit cards.

:04:48. > :04:54.All of that changing the way we do banking. No surprise they are

:04:55. > :04:58.closing. After all they are very expensive, prime high street

:04:59. > :05:04.locations, costing money to run and keep staff in them. Particularly

:05:05. > :05:08.important in rural areas, they need to stay open, according to critics.

:05:09. > :05:14.It is the lifeline of the local community. Local businesses paying

:05:15. > :05:17.money and, taking cash out, also needed for older people unable to

:05:18. > :05:23.access Internet or do it on the mobile phone. They want face-to-face

:05:24. > :05:27.interaction. A lot of banks struggling with how they adapt to

:05:28. > :05:30.new technology. What will they look like 5-10 years from now, still

:05:31. > :05:37.trying to work that out. Particularly galling, given they

:05:38. > :05:41.have announced profits rising to ?2.5 billion. At the same time

:05:42. > :05:48.escalating the cost-cutting strategy, laying 3000 staff off on

:05:49. > :05:51.top of the 9000 last year. 200 branches to go. On top of 200 last

:05:52. > :05:58.year. 400 in total. Let's catch up with the rest of the

:05:59. > :06:02.news. Anita is in the newsroom. The long-awaited decision

:06:03. > :06:04.on whether a new nuclear power will be built at Hinckley Point

:06:05. > :06:07.in Somerset could come today. The French energy firm EDF

:06:08. > :06:09.is holding a board meeting where it's expected to approve

:06:10. > :06:12.the giant ?18 billion pound project. Here's our business

:06:13. > :06:23.correspondent John Moylan: It is a project on a vast scale. The

:06:24. > :06:30.twin nuclear reactors planned for Hinkley point will provide 7% of the

:06:31. > :06:34.UK's electricity. Due to start generating in 2025, one of the first

:06:35. > :06:38.nuclear plants to be given the green light in Europe in years.

:06:39. > :06:45.Preparation work at this site is under way. EDF ploughing in 2.5

:06:46. > :06:53.billion euros. After years of delays it is set to be approved. Hinkley

:06:54. > :06:56.point See will cost 21 billion euros. One of the most expensive

:06:57. > :07:03.man-made structures on the planet. The Chinese group CGN is a 35% stake

:07:04. > :07:08.in the project. Part of a wider deal which could see Chinese reactors

:07:09. > :07:14.built in Britain. French ambitions to export nuclear technology around

:07:15. > :07:19.the world have suffered a series of setbacks. The EDF project in France

:07:20. > :07:29.has been hit by delays and is billions of euros over budget. The

:07:30. > :07:36.finance chief resigned earlier this year, amid concerns soaring costs

:07:37. > :07:40.could destabilise EDF's finances. The powerful unions want Hinkley

:07:41. > :07:44.point to be delayed. Earlier this week the shareholders approved a

:07:45. > :07:50.major refinancing plan, paving the way for today's decision. The UK

:07:51. > :07:53.looks set to enter a new nuclear era.

:07:54. > :07:55.French police have formally identified the second of the two

:07:56. > :07:58.attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

:07:59. > :08:01.He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

:08:02. > :08:08.An identity card belonging to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found

:08:09. > :08:11.in the house of the other attacker, Adel Kermiche, but because his body

:08:12. > :08:13.was so badly disfigured in the police shooting

:08:14. > :08:15.it was impossible to be sure it was him.

:08:16. > :08:18.But now DNA tests have confirmed it.

:08:19. > :08:24.The group calling itself is Lamex Stadium has allegedly released video

:08:25. > :08:26.evidence of the two pledging themselves to its leader.

:08:27. > :08:28.Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

:08:29. > :08:31.as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

:08:32. > :08:33.Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

:08:34. > :08:35.the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

:08:36. > :08:39.Meanwhile, the Republican candidate Donald Trump took advantage of more

:08:40. > :08:41.controversy surrounding the leak of emails and voicemails

:08:42. > :08:42.from the Democratic national Committee.

:08:43. > :08:51.Kim Ghattas reports from Philadelphia:

:08:52. > :08:53.On the third night of their convention,

:08:54. > :08:56.the Democrats brought out their biggest asset.

:08:57. > :09:03.The popular president, and gifted speaker, he

:09:04. > :09:09.for Hillary Clinton as the Commander-in-Chief.

:09:10. > :09:11.Time and again you have picked me up.

:09:12. > :09:21.Tonight I ask you to do for Hillary Clinton what you

:09:22. > :09:25.I ask you to carry the same way you carried me.

:09:26. > :09:26.President Obama knows that to preserve his

:09:27. > :09:34.legacy he needs Hillary Clinton to win the White House.

:09:35. > :09:41.Her rival had just stirred up a storm, after

:09:42. > :09:49.allegations Russia was behind hacking into the Democrat party.

:09:50. > :09:51.He suggested Russia should hack Hillary

:09:52. > :09:55.Russia, I hope you are able to find the 30,000

:09:56. > :09:57.You will be probably rewarded mightily by our

:09:58. > :10:12.At the Democratic convention, from Joe Biden, to Senator Ted Caine,

:10:13. > :10:15.They all attacked Mr Trump as a demagogue and

:10:16. > :10:20.After President Obama laid out his vision

:10:21. > :10:24.for America, a surprise appearance by the woman he hopes will take it

:10:25. > :10:27.Theresa May's European Union tour moves to Poland and Slovakia today

:10:28. > :10:29.as she continues talks on preparing for Brexit.

:10:30. > :10:31.It follows a meeting with the Italian Prime Minister

:10:32. > :10:34.yesterday, as well as talks in Germany, France and Ireland

:10:35. > :10:37.Slovakia and Poland are among the EU states which benefit most

:10:38. > :10:41.They have voiced concern about the rights of their nationals

:10:42. > :10:55.The Turkish Government has ordered the closure of nearly

:10:56. > :10:56.100 media organisations, as part of the crackdown

:10:57. > :11:00.Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

:11:01. > :11:03.The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

:11:04. > :11:05.judges, government officials, school teachers

:11:06. > :11:23.Immigration officials have arrested dozens of workers

:11:24. > :11:24.at the burger chain, Byron.

:11:25. > :11:26.The Home Office said 35 people from Albania, Brazil,

:11:27. > :11:30.The operation took place earlier this month at restaurants

:11:31. > :11:32.across London, but information has only just emerged.

:11:33. > :11:34.Officials said it had been carried out with the restaurant chain's

:11:35. > :11:43.A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

:11:44. > :11:46.of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

:11:47. > :11:51.The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

:11:52. > :11:53.of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

:11:54. > :11:55.of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

:11:56. > :11:57.we know that sedentary behaviour is detrimental to health.

:11:58. > :12:04.We wanted to understand whether physical activity

:12:05. > :12:06.to eliminate the association between sitting time and inactivity.

:12:07. > :12:08.If you are physically active for at least

:12:09. > :12:11.one hour a day you are able to offset the association between

:12:12. > :12:36.We're going to have tips on the sort of exercise you can do when you are

:12:37. > :12:41.sitting down, stay with us. Plenty coming up on the programme. Do you

:12:42. > :12:44.think the names and photographs of terrorists should be published? Does

:12:45. > :12:49.it give them the publicity they crave? A leading French newspaper

:12:50. > :12:55.has decided to ban them. We are looking into the new research, with

:12:56. > :12:59.some experts, to give us some handy tips.

:13:00. > :13:09.Let's catch up with the sport. We have an Olympic themed bulletin

:13:10. > :13:15.this morning. Why not? The games are just a week away. We will hear from

:13:16. > :13:22.the under fire IOC boss in a moment. First, to Team GB's preparations.

:13:23. > :13:28.They have arrived at their training camp, 300 miles from Rio. It has

:13:29. > :13:31.been financed by lottery grants, and officials say it has the best

:13:32. > :13:37.facilities in Brazil. We have been to Brazil to take a look.

:13:38. > :13:42.Sonny Webster may not be one of Team GB's best medal prospects. No

:13:43. > :13:47.attention to detail has been spared. The under 98 kilograms weightlifter

:13:48. > :13:53.provided with the same equipment at the training camp that he will use

:13:54. > :13:58.later in Rio. Written's two weightlifters among the first to

:13:59. > :14:03.arrive in Brazil along with the big boxing contingent, among them Nicola

:14:04. > :14:06.Adams. Gold medallist in London, favourite to repeat that in Rio,

:14:07. > :14:12.clearly enjoying the Olympic atmosphere. ?1.6 million in lottery

:14:13. > :14:16.funding has been spent on getting this training camp right. Ringing

:14:17. > :14:20.together athletes from 28 different sports, under one flag. The key part

:14:21. > :14:25.is bringing the team together, not the individual national governing

:14:26. > :14:29.bodies going to rear, the aim is Team GB, trying to unite the team to

:14:30. > :14:32.bring them together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of

:14:33. > :14:39.their lives, the Olympic Games environment. After coming third in

:14:40. > :14:44.the medals table in London, Team GB has set a realistic but difficult

:14:45. > :14:48.target of 48 medals in Rio. Using the best facilities is a key part of

:14:49. > :14:56.achieving that target. This is a brand-new swimming pool in Belo

:14:57. > :14:59.Horizonte, used by the entire squad. By their own high standards British

:15:00. > :15:06.swimmers underperformed four years ago. Fran Halsall and Hannah Miley

:15:07. > :15:10.among the swimmers in Brazil, training in reportedly the best

:15:11. > :15:15.facilities in the country. More than 270 miles from Rio, this training

:15:16. > :15:23.camp is inadvertently keeping UK athletes away from wider

:15:24. > :15:27.distractions, including the political dispute on whether Russian

:15:28. > :15:34.competitors should be excluded. Reports of the much travelled

:15:35. > :15:40.athletes village, that should be ready by the time they arrive in

:15:41. > :15:44.Rio. The British athletes will use facilities installed and paid for by

:15:45. > :15:52.Team GB. Bosses insist they will have the best preparation possible.

:15:53. > :16:03.Well, the Russian athletes who have not been band have also been

:16:04. > :16:10.arriving in Rio. The IOC president has been justifying the decision not

:16:11. > :16:14.to ban the entire Russian team. It is appreciated, on the one hand we

:16:15. > :16:22.are sanctioning the system, but on the other hand, we give athletes who

:16:23. > :16:29.are not part of the system, the opportunity to demonstrate this.

:16:30. > :16:33.That is all the sport for now, but at 9:30am, we will take a look at

:16:34. > :16:36.all the stories today and an in-depth look in our 's time.

:16:37. > :16:39.Thank you. In an exclusive interview

:16:40. > :16:40.this morning, Her dad died after doctors wrongly

:16:41. > :16:44.decided that his life could not He was put on the notorious and now

:16:45. > :16:49.discredited end of life care plan This meant that doctors withdrew

:16:50. > :16:52.fluids and medication from Joseph and told Jayne

:16:53. > :16:55.he was close to death. She spent the next three years

:16:56. > :16:58.fighting to get answers and the hospital trust

:16:59. > :17:02.has now apologised. This is believed to be the first

:17:03. > :17:07.time hospital chiefs have publicly accepted the Liverpool Care Pathway

:17:08. > :17:10.had "killed" a patient. We'll speak to Jayne in a moment,

:17:11. > :17:25.but first let's remind ourselves Just under half of us die in a

:17:26. > :17:30.hospital. Good end of life or palliative care is designed to make

:17:31. > :17:36.that last experience as comfortable and dignified as possible. The

:17:37. > :17:39.Liverpool care pathway, introduced in the 90s in England, Scotland and

:17:40. > :17:44.Northern Ireland was meant to make that easier. Among other things, it

:17:45. > :17:48.introduced a check list, think of it as a prompt for hospital staff to

:17:49. > :17:54.help them work out when drugs, fluids and invasive tests can be

:17:55. > :17:57.stopped. Those kind of treatments can be painful or unhelpful in the

:17:58. > :18:01.last stage of life. The pathway often worked well, but when it went

:18:02. > :18:05.wrong, it was extremely controversial. There were reports of

:18:06. > :18:08.treatments being moved too quickly. Some families said their loved ones

:18:09. > :18:14.had been left without food or water. The most damaging complaint was

:18:15. > :18:19.around communication. Some patients were being put on the LCP without

:18:20. > :18:24.anyone giving permission. Some families only found out about it

:18:25. > :18:29.after a loved one had passed away. After all the controversy, in 2013,

:18:30. > :18:33.the government scrapped the Liverpool care pathway in England.

:18:34. > :18:36.It is also being phased out in Scotland and Northern Ireland. It

:18:37. > :18:44.should be replaced with individual end of life plans, tailored to the

:18:45. > :18:49.patient and discussed with their family but the discussion is not

:18:50. > :18:53.over. Some critics say the government have just rebranded the

:18:54. > :18:54.LCP, giving it a different name but continuing many of the same

:18:55. > :18:56.practices. Well, Jayne Boberek,

:18:57. > :18:57.whose father would have home had he not been placed

:18:58. > :19:08.on the Liverpool Care Pathway, Thank you for coming in. You have

:19:09. > :19:15.had a long battle to prove what happened. Take us back to when your

:19:16. > :19:18.father went into hospital. He was 92. He had chronic background

:19:19. > :19:26.conditions but these were being treated adequately. He had a routine

:19:27. > :19:30.chest infection and he was admits it being dehydrated already, so I

:19:31. > :19:36.presume the hydration aspect was being taken care off, as it usually

:19:37. > :19:41.was. A few days later, I noticed he was not eating or drinking properly,

:19:42. > :19:47.although he said he wanted food so I knew he had an appetite. I reported

:19:48. > :19:52.this to the visiting therapist and she told the staff on the Monday

:19:53. > :19:59.morning and they gave him extra fluids. But I didn't know at the

:20:00. > :20:07.time, less than a quarter of these had been administered, and a few

:20:08. > :20:11.days later, a junior doctor told me that the whole team had been talking

:20:12. > :20:20.and they were thinking not to treat my father, because he had developed

:20:21. > :20:25.a further infection, and his chronic heart, kidney and liver conditions

:20:26. > :20:30.were at a terminal stage. That is how it was presented. I said, if

:20:31. > :20:36.antibiotics had a good effect, what would be the result? They said, even

:20:37. > :20:40.then, the problem is his heart. So effectively, he was not being

:20:41. > :20:45.treated at this point. I only found out later he already was not being

:20:46. > :20:49.treated. This was 29 hours without oral fluids and a day and a half

:20:50. > :20:55.without his routine medications by the time I was approached. It was

:20:56. > :21:02.quite confusing picture, in that you were being told that there were

:21:03. > :21:05.various conditions going on which you subsequently discovered were not

:21:06. > :21:09.the case. He seemed to be deteriorating, but you now know that

:21:10. > :21:14.is because he was not getting the fluids. Was it a simple case of the

:21:15. > :21:20.hydration, do you think? I think it was lack of care, lack of oral

:21:21. > :21:25.dehydration, lack of clinically assisted rehydration, and I am not

:21:26. > :21:33.sure if this was deliberate incompetency or what. You were told

:21:34. > :21:39.that he was getting a lot of fluid, but he wasn't? I had alerted them to

:21:40. > :21:44.the fact I felt he was not getting enough intake, yes. I presumed this

:21:45. > :21:50.was being taken care of. Why do you think he was not being given that

:21:51. > :21:58.fluid? I think it was a mixture of things. I think it was difficult.

:21:59. > :22:03.The cannula came out, it was not reinserted. The fluid was not

:22:04. > :22:09.continued. I am really not sure. I think it was a lack of factors, a

:22:10. > :22:16.lack of substandard care and a lack of adequate care. That is your dad.

:22:17. > :22:20.That is him, yes. Tell us a bit about him. He was quite a character.

:22:21. > :22:26.That is what people said to me in the hospital, he is quite a

:22:27. > :22:31.character, your dad. He was. He was very fiery, very opinionated, and

:22:32. > :22:46.even though he was over 90, he had life left in him yet. When I saw him

:22:47. > :22:49.in the bed deteriorating, I presumed, and it was presented to

:22:50. > :22:51.me, that this was part of his condition, his medical condition. I

:22:52. > :22:59.found out from the report, and from my research, that it wasn't. The

:23:00. > :23:03.dehydration was the likely cause, and the removal of his routine

:23:04. > :23:08.medications. Why were you so certain, because you had doctors

:23:09. > :23:11.telling you he had an infection, you could see the deterioration, and you

:23:12. > :23:15.did not know at that stage it was down to hydration, why were you so

:23:16. > :23:22.sure that you were not getting the whole picture? I still, even up to

:23:23. > :23:26.the moment he died, I believed he had another infection, and that his

:23:27. > :23:29.organs were failing, but it looked to me like he was battling for life.

:23:30. > :23:37.They looked like he was not ready to let go, and the question was,

:23:38. > :23:44.whether to intervene, when I believed his organs were absolutely

:23:45. > :23:47.failing, and this was the end stage. Afterwards, I left the hospital,

:23:48. > :23:52.knowing that something profoundly wrong had happened, that I had

:23:53. > :23:59.witnessed, something deeply wrong, and that is when I started to pursue

:24:00. > :24:03.it myself, and got his records. The doctors said they had been talking

:24:04. > :24:10.about his condition and whether to effectively put him on the Liverpool

:24:11. > :24:15.Care Pathway. How's that bit to you? This was very odd, because it was at

:24:16. > :24:21.530 in the late afternoon and I had been asking them all day, I had been

:24:22. > :24:26.alerting them, he has not eaten, he has not drunk all day, I am

:24:27. > :24:31.concerned. I was alerting them that there was something wrong, and I

:24:32. > :24:35.presumed as if this was presented as his ongoing medical conditions, this

:24:36. > :24:42.was a consequence of them. Hydration wasn't even on my radar. I naturally

:24:43. > :24:49.assumed, it was such basic care, that he had been given all adequate

:24:50. > :24:56.hydration. This was what I presumed. Word they open with you about the

:24:57. > :25:00.Liverpool Care Pathway? No. The junior doctor said I can go and get

:25:01. > :25:05.the papers for the Liverpool Care Pathway now. That alerted me that

:25:06. > :25:12.something was wrong. And so, I said, I agree to hold on. I thought I was

:25:13. > :25:18.agreeing just to stop the antibiotics, just to hold onto that,

:25:19. > :25:22.but I presumed everything else was continuing, it was just the

:25:23. > :25:27.medication that was on hold. So you did not know it was effectively a

:25:28. > :25:32.pathway that would ease him to his end? I did not know that it had been

:25:33. > :25:39.started. I think it was effectively underway without the paperwork. The

:25:40. > :25:42.paperwork was put in place the next day. I think a day and a half before

:25:43. > :25:49.I was even spoken to, it was already underway. I had power of attorney,

:25:50. > :25:54.so this is the last thing I was expecting. When I had power of

:25:55. > :25:59.attorney, I should have been consulted regarding all medical

:26:00. > :26:05.decisions, all clinical decisions. So after he died, you asked to see

:26:06. > :26:11.the records? Yes. How quickly did you work out what had happened? The

:26:12. > :26:16.records in themselves that were sent to me were not complete. There were

:26:17. > :26:23.a few crucial pages missing which confirmed he had not received all

:26:24. > :26:29.his hydration, or his IV fluids. These pages I received after the

:26:30. > :26:31.investigation when I pursued and pursued them, asking for an

:26:32. > :26:39.explanation, or to give me these pages. So I received the pages

:26:40. > :26:45.incomplete. I did a lot of research and I could see the responses given

:26:46. > :26:49.by the hospital. The first response said they followed the best

:26:50. > :26:55.principles of palliative care, and his organs were failing, he would

:26:56. > :27:01.not have recovered anyway even with treatment. The second response told

:27:02. > :27:07.me that his diagnosis of dying and his care was correct in all aspects.

:27:08. > :27:11.I could see the information they were giving me did not match up with

:27:12. > :27:16.the medical records. I am a non-medical person. What is your

:27:17. > :27:22.background? It is quite something went doctors are telling you

:27:23. > :27:25.something... Very senior doctors. And then everyone is saying they are

:27:26. > :27:29.agreeing with a position which is very different from the position you

:27:30. > :27:35.suspect. What was your background that made you sort of able to pick

:27:36. > :27:40.through that and keep on fighting? It was odd to me that a very senior

:27:41. > :27:45.palliative care physician was telling me that my father was dying

:27:46. > :27:50.on a Wednesday morning, but it was okayed to consult me on a Thursday

:27:51. > :27:55.evening. That sounded odd in itself. When I picked through the detail and

:27:56. > :27:59.I could see it did not match up with his medical records, all that was

:28:00. > :28:04.left was a prognosis that he was likely to die in the future. That

:28:05. > :28:17.was really literally all that was left, when you removed the incorrect

:28:18. > :28:21.statements made. This was a fight that went over three years. Yes! How

:28:22. > :28:25.much toing and froing was there? I managed to get the final pages a

:28:26. > :28:30.year and a half after he died, the puzzle fell into place because there

:28:31. > :28:37.were nursing notes and you could see he had the, the fluids had not been

:28:38. > :28:41.administered. I referred it to the ombudsman because the hospital did

:28:42. > :28:47.not want to pursue it any further. And the ombudsman said you were

:28:48. > :28:52.right? Yes. What was it like when you had that three? It was not a

:28:53. > :28:57.surprise really. I had still believed at that point that my

:28:58. > :29:01.father's organs had been at the end stage, that his background

:29:02. > :29:08.conditions were terminal. But that was a shock to me, that he wasn't.

:29:09. > :29:14.As far as we know, yours is the only case, where it has been assessed,

:29:15. > :29:20.that the Liverpool care pathway did actually lead to the death of

:29:21. > :29:26.somebody who otherwise would have survived? Yes, his withdrawal of

:29:27. > :29:33.treatment, long before the Liverpool Care Pathway was in place, yes. His

:29:34. > :29:37.reduction. If you reduce fluids and they sit medications in a healthy

:29:38. > :29:43.person, you are going to cause deterioration, but if you do that to

:29:44. > :29:46.an old man, you certainly are. The reason the Liverpool Care Pathway

:29:47. > :29:52.was introduced was to try and ensure a dignified and comfortable death

:29:53. > :29:56.for somebody who was certainly dying, but it has now been phased

:29:57. > :30:03.out, because of concerns around why it was used. Do you think there are

:30:04. > :30:06.other lessons? I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and

:30:07. > :30:11.repeat many of the same elements. The constant repetition in the new

:30:12. > :30:17.guidelines about diagnosing the dying patient, as if they can beat

:30:18. > :30:22.diagnosed. There is an inference that you can diagnose someone as

:30:23. > :30:26.dying and you cannot. There is no clinical evidence. Once you make

:30:27. > :30:31.that assumption and start removing treatment, it is a self-fulfilling

:30:32. > :30:35.prophecy. What would you tell somebody if they have concerns if

:30:36. > :30:39.they have a relative in hospital? You shouldn't have to do this but

:30:40. > :30:45.I'm afraid you do, you have to be suspicious about what is going on,

:30:46. > :30:56.and make sure your relatives is fully hydrated, orally and even IV.

:30:57. > :30:59.Make sure IV fluids are all given, or if they are taken down, why they

:31:00. > :31:02.are taken down. And be constantly aware that treatment and care can be

:31:03. > :31:05.removed without being aware of it. Thank you.

:31:06. > :31:07.We asked the Imperial College Healthcare Trust for a statement

:31:08. > :31:39.The UK could be getting its first nuclear power plant for 20 years

:31:40. > :31:41.at Hinkley Point in Somerset - we'll find out what impact

:31:42. > :31:47.the decision will have on our energy prices and the environment.

:31:48. > :31:50.And could your office job be bad for your health?

:31:51. > :31:53.Scientists say you should do one hour of exercise every day to combat

:31:54. > :31:56.the negative effects that sitting all day at work could have

:31:57. > :32:20.Let's catch up on all the news with a meter. -- Anita.

:32:21. > :32:23.Lloyds has announced this morning that it's cutting 3,000 jobs -

:32:24. > :32:26.that's in addition to the 9,000 posts it said it was

:32:27. > :32:28.It's also closing an additional 200 branches.

:32:29. > :32:31.The bank - which is part state owned - warned that Brexit

:32:32. > :32:40.could have an adverse impact on its future performance.

:32:41. > :32:42.Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

:32:43. > :32:46.The board of the french energy firm EDF will make its final investment

:32:47. > :32:51.Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

:32:52. > :32:53.7%of the UK's electricity over its estimated

:32:54. > :32:56.It's scheduled to begin generating power in 2025, several

:32:57. > :33:14.French police have formally identified the second of the two

:33:15. > :33:16.attackers who killed an elderly priest in Rouen on Tuesday.

:33:17. > :33:19.He's Abdelmalik Petitjean, who was 19 and from eastern France.

:33:20. > :33:21.DNA tests have confirmed it his him after an identity card belonging

:33:22. > :33:24.to Abdelmalik Petitjean was found in the house of the other

:33:25. > :33:27.The group calling itself Islamic State has released video

:33:28. > :33:29.footage, allegedly showing the two men pledging allegiance

:33:30. > :33:35.Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite to make Hillary Clinton

:33:36. > :33:38.Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

:33:39. > :33:40.the outgoing President said his former rival

:33:41. > :33:52.Mrs Clinton was the only choice for an optimistic America.

:33:53. > :33:56.And the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

:33:57. > :33:59.Nearly 100 media organisations in Turkey are being closed down

:34:00. > :34:01.as part of a crackdown following a failed coup

:34:02. > :34:04.Almost 100 newspaper and broadcast journalists have also been arrested

:34:05. > :34:08.The crackdown by Turkey's president has also targeted service personnel,

:34:09. > :34:16.judges, government officials, school teachers and university heads.

:34:17. > :34:19.A study of more than a million people has found that doing an hour

:34:20. > :34:22.of activity a day could offset the health risks of sitting

:34:23. > :34:27.The journal the Lancet has published a series of papers on the costs

:34:28. > :34:29.of physical inactivity which is linked to an increased risk

:34:30. > :34:44.of heart disease, diabetes and some cancers.

:34:45. > :34:52.A lot of you getting in touch with your thoughts on whether terrorists'

:34:53. > :34:58.photographs should be published, after one French newspaper said they

:34:59. > :35:03.would not be doing it. One reviewer said they glory in the publicity,

:35:04. > :35:08.deny them the gratification. John said, absolutely yes. Images of

:35:09. > :35:13.atrocities should be published widely and honestly. Good for France

:35:14. > :35:19.for banning images of the terrorists, we had to suppress our

:35:20. > :35:21.impulses to their faces. Well done France, someone with sense. They

:35:22. > :35:26.should not get media coverage anywhere. Anonymous text, I agree

:35:27. > :35:31.with banning the faces of terrorists in the papers and all media, what

:35:32. > :35:36.those murderers crave is that kind of fame and attention. Encouraging

:35:37. > :35:40.other young people to follow. As a viewer I don't want to see the faces

:35:41. > :35:44.of killers, we should focus on telling the stories of the victims.

:35:45. > :35:50.I totally agree, Isis and other terrorist groups faces should not be

:35:51. > :35:55.published. Videos should not be allowed on Facebook or similar

:35:56. > :35:58.social media sites. Let them be treated as the insignificant cowards

:35:59. > :36:02.that they are. Kevan Hurst texting, terrorism and publicity,

:36:03. > :36:07.broadcasting needs to think about this is one as the medias. Nonstop

:36:08. > :36:10.coverage by broadcasters leads into future terrorist incidents. Once

:36:11. > :36:17.they are reported, some curtailment should happen to restore is a sense

:36:18. > :36:20.of proportion. Well done to the French media, we give too much

:36:21. > :36:28.coverage to the terrorists. Do keep that coming in. Hello, there

:36:29. > :36:33.anticipation is growling ahead of next week's Olympic Games, written's

:36:34. > :36:39.first athletes arriving in Brazil, beginning their preparations. Those

:36:40. > :36:42.who have arrived in Belo Horizonte include Nicola Adams and the rest of

:36:43. > :36:47.the boxing squad. They arrive against a difficult backdrop.

:36:48. > :36:56.International Olympic Committee chief Thomas Bach has defended the

:36:57. > :37:03.decision, after Vladimir Putin called it discrimination. Celtic

:37:04. > :37:08.drew their first leg of their Champions League qualifier, 1-1.

:37:09. > :37:17.Leigh Griffiths with a late goal. Johanna Konta through to the third

:37:18. > :37:22.round of the Rogers cup in Montreal. The world number one, Jason Day,

:37:23. > :37:26.says he is running on empty as the prepares to defend the USPGA

:37:27. > :37:29.Championship in New Jersey later today. The Australian managing only

:37:30. > :37:33.one practice round after spending time with his wife is suffered an

:37:34. > :37:37.allergic reaction. More sport just after ten o'clock.

:37:38. > :37:38.Prime Minister Theresa May is continuing her whirlwind

:37:39. > :37:41.diplomacy tour of Europe with a visit to Poland.

:37:42. > :37:43.She will meet Prime Minister Polish Prime Minister Szydlo.

:37:44. > :37:46.It is expected they will discuss the ramifications of the UK's vote

:37:47. > :37:49.to leave, including the residency status of the 850,000 Poles

:37:50. > :37:56.that currently reside in the UK.

:37:57. > :38:01.We can speak to Conservative MP Daniel Kawczynski who voted to leave

:38:02. > :38:05.and originally came to Britain as a Polish immigrant in the 1970s.

:38:06. > :38:07.Kate Fejfer who is a Polish community leader

:38:08. > :38:10.and Ola Rybinska a polish journalist from Warsaw who can give us

:38:11. > :38:22.Thank you for joining us. Kate, what will Polish people living here be

:38:23. > :38:29.hoping for on freedom of movement? For us, important to make sure we

:38:30. > :38:35.are safe, secure to stay here. Our rights to get a job and still work,

:38:36. > :38:42.without losing care. Our Polish people feeling vulnerable about

:38:43. > :38:48.their future? Yes, we have... I spoke to friends and clients, and

:38:49. > :38:53.they are fearing for the future. You are a journalist in Poland, what

:38:54. > :38:59.will Poland be wanting to get out of the Brecht it negotiations? I think

:39:00. > :39:07.the first thing will be that Poland will want the UK to take a lot of

:39:08. > :39:11.time to leave the European Union. Poland is hoping for Brett set after

:39:12. > :39:17.2020. The Polish Prime Minister will try to convince Theresa May to take

:39:18. > :39:24.time, this bone breaks it until 2020. The reason is simple, it is

:39:25. > :39:29.about the EU funding. After 2020, the rules will change anyway for the

:39:30. > :39:36.reallocation of EU funds. If the UK leaves before that, the rules will

:39:37. > :39:50.change, and Poland will receive less money from the EU budget. This will

:39:51. > :40:02.certainly be one thing you are telling us about the EU funds, what

:40:03. > :40:06.about freedom of movement? Freedom of movement is important, but David

:40:07. > :40:12.Cameron gave us guarantees, not much will change, at least for the Polish

:40:13. > :40:19.people in the UK. Not such a big issue. We have, and the Polish

:40:20. > :40:25.government has a lot of trust in the UK, that the rules will not change,

:40:26. > :40:30.essentially. Theresa May has not given that guarantee. Let's bring in

:40:31. > :40:36.Daniel. How should Theresa May handle the talks, balancing

:40:37. > :40:41.written's interest on free trade, and the question of freedom of

:40:42. > :40:44.movement? She has two obviously pursue what is in the British

:40:45. > :40:51.National strategic interest. What will be vital is that we protect the

:40:52. > :40:55.rights of the British citizens living in the European Union. There

:40:56. > :41:00.are currently 1.8 million Britons living in the EU. 3 million EU

:41:01. > :41:05.citizens living in the United Kingdom. I understand the polls want

:41:06. > :41:09.to have safeguards for their continued residence in the United

:41:10. > :41:15.Kingdom, that should come about, but only when we are given the same

:41:16. > :41:19.guarantees for our citizens, currently living in the European

:41:20. > :41:24.Union. Where do you see the balance of what is in the British interest?

:41:25. > :41:34.850,000 Polish people living and working in the UK. Should they all

:41:35. > :41:40.be allowed to stay? The free movement of people is a wonderful

:41:41. > :41:45.concept in theory. In practice it has not worked, only to make

:41:46. > :41:50.countries in the European Union. Ourselves and island-macro. English

:41:51. > :41:54.is the international language, we have received a massively

:41:55. > :41:59.disproportionate number of migrants from all over the European Union in

:42:00. > :42:03.to come, work and live in the European union. I believe

:42:04. > :42:08.immigration is good for our country, but it has to be managed. The

:42:09. > :42:12.concern is that the Polish government has played to its own

:42:13. > :42:16.domestic audience, to say to them we are standing up for your rights, to

:42:17. > :42:22.live and work wherever you like in the European Union, but that is

:42:23. > :42:27.unsustainable. Bad for Poland. Because there are cities and towns

:42:28. > :42:34.rapidly becoming depopulated in Poland. They are having real

:42:35. > :42:37.problems providing public services because of the brain drain. It is

:42:38. > :42:42.bad for the United Kingdom, certain communities like Peterborough,

:42:43. > :42:46.Boston, where local services are being overwhelmed by the sheer

:42:47. > :42:51.numbers. Yes, let's protect people already here, but Syriza may must

:42:52. > :42:58.ensure that wrecks it means breaks it. United Kingdom takes back

:42:59. > :43:01.control of our borders. So we can decide who gets to come into our

:43:02. > :43:11.country to work, if they have the relevant skills, matching our skills

:43:12. > :43:18.shortages. Have you seen evidence of the brain drain? Yes, of course.

:43:19. > :43:26.This is absolutely true. It would be in the interest Poland these people

:43:27. > :43:31.came back. The problem is, I'm not sure we can assure jobs from all of

:43:32. > :43:36.them. On the same level and position, certainly not for the same

:43:37. > :43:41.money they get by working in the UK for the future. The Polish

:43:42. > :43:46.government would like to get people back, the brain drain is bad for us.

:43:47. > :43:53.The question is do we have jobs and housing for all these people? Kate,

:43:54. > :43:59.you are concern is primarily with people here already. If there were

:44:00. > :44:05.guarantees that people already here could stay, would that be what you

:44:06. > :44:10.want? Do you have concerns about future freedom of movement? Or not

:44:11. > :44:18.so much? Definitely, we still have family in Poland. Living in the UK,

:44:19. > :44:22.we are still going for holidays. Automatically, this may be more

:44:23. > :44:28.difficult for us. The future for us is very important, we still have

:44:29. > :44:34.family, children, they go to school, university, we would like to know

:44:35. > :44:42.what will happen. What has been the particular law of Britain for Polish

:44:43. > :44:50.people? Why have they been particularly attractive to coming to

:44:51. > :44:54.Britain in Europe? For the time, the financial programme. We don't have

:44:55. > :44:58.enough Social Security in Poland. We are looking for a better life.

:44:59. > :45:03.Depending where we are giving from experience, we may stay. Are we

:45:04. > :45:10.coming back to Poland, which is not good, the level of life is better,

:45:11. > :45:18.but still not enough to stay there. Talk about a seven year emergency

:45:19. > :45:24.brake on freedom of movement, as part of a trade deal with the free

:45:25. > :45:28.market, what do you think of that? No, I would be uncomfortable with

:45:29. > :45:31.that. A lot of other Conservative Parliamentary colleagues would be

:45:32. > :45:38.uncomfortable with anything which radically falls short of our ability

:45:39. > :45:42.to take back control of our borders. As I said, immigration was the

:45:43. > :45:48.number one issue at the last general election, quite extraordinary that

:45:49. > :45:51.rather than the economy which has been the number one issue,

:45:52. > :45:56.immigration was the number one issue at the last general election. People

:45:57. > :46:00.expect us to take back control of our borders. The vast majority of

:46:01. > :46:06.people in the United Kingdom unwelcoming, very tolerant to

:46:07. > :46:09.foreigners. They understand the economic benefits to our country of

:46:10. > :46:17.allowing people with skills to come and work. They do expect very keenly

:46:18. > :46:23.that the government has the ability to control the numbers coming in.

:46:24. > :46:30.Last year we had net migration of 350,000 into the country. Completely

:46:31. > :46:35.unsustainable. To answer the other lady's point, Poland is grabbing at

:46:36. > :46:38.a phenomenal pace. Its economy is growing at a faster rate than most

:46:39. > :46:43.other countries in the European Union. Standards of living are going

:46:44. > :46:51.up in Poland. Poland will ultimately reach the stain standard as we have

:46:52. > :46:55.in the United Kingdom. -- the same standard. It is vital that Theresa

:46:56. > :46:58.May explains to the Polish government that if we are going to

:46:59. > :47:05.help Poland with various issues she has going forward, one of which is

:47:06. > :47:08.security. They want a permanent Nato base east of Warsaw, if they want

:47:09. > :47:12.that support on fundamentally important things they feel keenly

:47:13. > :47:17.on, they must start to understand and respect some of the problems we

:47:18. > :47:21.have in the United Kingdom with migration, and try to work with us,

:47:22. > :47:27.so we can resolve them, in the interests of our own citizens.

:47:28. > :47:35.And is there an understanding of the sort of arguments that Daniel is

:47:36. > :47:40.talking about in Poland? Yes of course, there is. The point is that

:47:41. > :47:45.most immigration we see from Poland to the UK is from very small towns.

:47:46. > :47:48.It is from more or less the countryside where there is really

:47:49. > :47:54.structural unemployment. The point is, if it was that easy to take

:47:55. > :47:59.those people back and put them into work, the problem is, there is no

:48:00. > :48:06.work, that is why they left. That problem hasn't been solved. But the

:48:07. > :48:10.Polish economy is growing. Isn't it better to build a stronger economy

:48:11. > :48:14.with their workforce? Of course, but it will not happen tomorrow or the

:48:15. > :48:18.day after tomorrow. This will take years. We have structural problems

:48:19. > :48:24.in Poland which need to be solved but the government has only just

:48:25. > :48:28.started working on it. During that time there is no employment in these

:48:29. > :48:33.regions where these people left for the UK. Of course, the Polish

:48:34. > :48:37.government sees the arguments of the UK, and the British government sees

:48:38. > :48:42.and understands the problems they have with migration, but I think a

:48:43. > :48:46.compromise will have to be worked out. I then think all the posts will

:48:47. > :48:50.be back immediately, and there will be a time for maybe a couple of

:48:51. > :48:55.years that they will stay in the UK, and some kind of compromise will

:48:56. > :49:07.have to be worked out. How quickly do you want deals to be sewn up? We

:49:08. > :49:09.are thinking that article 50 may be invoked after Christmas, when

:49:10. > :49:12.Article 50 is invoked we have a period up to two years for

:49:13. > :49:17.renegotiation. I had a debate in the House of Commons just the other

:49:18. > :49:24.week, about the contribution of polls in the UK, because I wanted to

:49:25. > :49:27.explain to fellow parliamentarians and the extraordinary contribution

:49:28. > :49:31.that Polish people have made to this country, not just in the recent

:49:32. > :49:36.years, but most importantly during the Battle of Britain when the

:49:37. > :49:40.Polish 303 Squadron was the most accessible Squadron in the Battle of

:49:41. > :49:43.Britain. Polish people have made a huge contribution and their

:49:44. > :49:49.reputation in this country is second to none. Most of the people I have

:49:50. > :49:53.spoken to know Polish migrants to be hard-working, paying their taxes,

:49:54. > :49:57.contributing to society, so they are the ideal type of migrants, and we

:49:58. > :50:02.are very appreciative of their contribution. But the Polish economy

:50:03. > :50:06.has grown by 500% since the fall of communism. It is continuing to grow

:50:07. > :50:17.and I very much hope the Polish government will start to ensure

:50:18. > :50:20.there are more jobs available for Polish workers, because the numbers

:50:21. > :50:22.that have been coming over I just unsustainable, and yes, we must

:50:23. > :50:25.protect the rights of the people who are here already, yes, first and

:50:26. > :50:29.foremost we must protect the rights of British people in the European

:50:30. > :50:33.Union, but the Polish government has the government around the European

:50:34. > :50:38.Union and must now understand that we want to trade with them, we want

:50:39. > :50:44.to cooperate with them in terms of security, but there is free movement

:50:45. > :50:48.of -- this free movement of people concept coming to the United Kingdom

:50:49. > :50:52.is gone. We gave them a chance repeatedly in the negotiations. Mr

:50:53. > :50:59.Cameron went over and over again to Warsaw, to explain how difficult it

:51:00. > :51:03.was to deal with these numbers. They chose to ignore our concerns. That

:51:04. > :51:08.is why we are pulling out of the European Union, and that is why this

:51:09. > :51:12.concept of completely controlled migration to this country, those

:51:13. > :51:16.days are gone. Daniel, Kate and Ola, thank you. Coming up...

:51:17. > :51:18.Are prisons able to cope with older inmates?

:51:19. > :51:19.A watchdog says many age-related conditions like dementia

:51:20. > :51:32.The crackdown in Turkey following the failed coup is continuing with

:51:33. > :51:37.the dismissal or a rest of thousands of people from all walks of life.

:51:38. > :51:41.The military, the media and education officials, more than 100

:51:42. > :51:43.media outlets were ordered to close yesterday. Dozens of journalists

:51:44. > :51:46.have been arrested in recent days. Yesterday we spoke to Yavuz Baydar,

:51:47. > :51:49.who has 40 years' experience as a journalist and was the founding

:51:50. > :51:51.member of Platform for That was before this latest

:51:52. > :51:55.round of closures - We are not revealing his location

:51:56. > :52:03.due to concerns for his safety. Thank you very much for joining us

:52:04. > :52:10.again. Since we spoke, there has been more of a crackdown, what is

:52:11. > :52:21.your reaction to it? The most recent news piece is younger, investigative

:52:22. > :52:29.reporter, was caught by police and this is a reporter awarded the

:52:30. > :52:37.runner-up in the EU investigative reporting award this year. That is

:52:38. > :52:44.the latest peace. And then the decree last night, the massive

:52:45. > :52:51.closure of as you said, more than 100 news outlets, about 45

:52:52. > :52:59.newspapers, 16 TV stations and radio stations and three news agencies.

:53:00. > :53:05.This is a large bulk of whatever remains in a semi-independent

:53:06. > :53:10.segment of the media. That is continuing and increasing a growing

:53:11. > :53:16.clamp-down of media segments in Turkey. What is left in terms of

:53:17. > :53:23.freedom of speech in Turkey? Our investigations are monitoring

:53:24. > :53:35.reports... INAUDIBLE

:53:36. > :53:39.Now we have a few tiny news sites, sort of left-leaning or centre

:53:40. > :53:46.independent but struggling financially, four or five

:53:47. > :53:51.newspapers, one with editors sentenced to five years in prison

:53:52. > :53:59.at, another one the editor in chief is in prison and has threats over

:54:00. > :54:03.his life. There are three or four newspapers, mainly left and one

:54:04. > :54:07.Kurdish newspaper and no TV channel at all at the moment which can

:54:08. > :54:14.report independently and freely at the moment in Turkey. You mentioned

:54:15. > :54:21.some news sites, is the Internet still freely accessible? That is not

:54:22. > :54:28.freely accessible. The emergency rule regulations, the law about

:54:29. > :54:34.emergency rule approved without the concerns of the Internet, because it

:54:35. > :54:38.is rather old, so it falls out of the jurisdiction of emergency rule,

:54:39. > :54:45.that is why we did not see any lists of news sites in this one last

:54:46. > :54:50.night, but a disk all upon the jurisdiction of the so-called peace

:54:51. > :54:58.Courts, also strictly controlled by the Justice ministry at the moment.

:54:59. > :55:06.It is the Internet, the bounds of new sites will continue to be

:55:07. > :55:10.decided by the courts and judges. Lots of people have been arrested

:55:11. > :55:14.and there have been concerns voiced by Amnesty International as well as

:55:15. > :55:18.other organisations about what is happening to them in custody, how

:55:19. > :55:23.easy is it to monitor what is going on and what sort of access to those

:55:24. > :55:34.who are arrested have to any legal representation?

:55:35. > :55:44.There are -- due to the severely restricted conditions of the media,

:55:45. > :55:50.we have severe difficulties to understand the breadth of the

:55:51. > :55:53.round-up. Also, human rights organisations like you and rights

:55:54. > :56:00.watch and Anstey International are also having difficulties for access

:56:01. > :56:08.-- Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. The less free the

:56:09. > :56:16.media is, the more curved the media is, the more it more difficulties we

:56:17. > :56:22.will have two establish the facts. What is your view of where things

:56:23. > :56:28.are going to go in Turkey? The pattern leaves very little doubt

:56:29. > :56:34.about whether or not democratic position in Parmenter, the main

:56:35. > :56:41.opposition and the second opposition and perhaps more importantly the

:56:42. > :56:47.third-largest party in parliament, whether they will be establishing or

:56:48. > :56:52.forming enough of a strong enough by now Mick for returning to

:56:53. > :56:57.normalisation process. As one critical columnist pointed out this

:56:58. > :57:02.morning, he said, ironically, Erdogan is ready to listen to the

:57:03. > :57:05.opposition and to agree with the opposition, as far as the opposition

:57:06. > :57:14.does not object to whatever he wants. The pattern is by the decrees

:57:15. > :57:17.which means authoritarian and arbitrary rule. Turkey is drifting

:57:18. > :57:24.more and more towards an authoritarian rule, because now,

:57:25. > :57:39.given the... 145 generals were dismissed last night

:57:40. > :57:44.by a decree, which means half of the total generals in the Turkish army.

:57:45. > :57:51.The Armed Forces are also at its weakest point, state institutions

:57:52. > :57:55.are mainly controlled by President Erdogan and the government, which

:57:56. > :58:03.means everything is now to be described in terms of arbitrariness.

:58:04. > :58:09.Unfortunately, the opposition is weak, scattered and NGOs are also

:58:10. > :58:20.under the threat of the strict regulations by the emergency rule.

:58:21. > :58:27.The judges were given immense jurisdiction for closing, seizures,

:58:28. > :58:32.appropriation of the properties, so it is a very precarious situation.

:58:33. > :58:37.It is a very delicate stage of things at the moment. Yavuz Baydar,

:58:38. > :58:42.thank you for joining us, a journalist with 40 years experience.

:58:43. > :58:43.Sorry about the problems with the line there but I think we could hear

:58:44. > :58:46.most of what he was saying. In the wake of the attacks in France

:58:47. > :58:50.- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

:58:51. > :58:58.of terrorists - Now, let's catch up with the latest

:58:59. > :59:05.weather update. Carol is looking very sunny.

:59:06. > :59:12.Thank you. The rain is moving from the west to the east, but we do have

:59:13. > :59:20.a beautiful picture sent in from one of our BBC Weather Watchers of

:59:21. > :59:25.Swanage in Dorset where it is sunny. You can see already the cloud is

:59:26. > :59:29.romping from the west to east. The whitest cloud is where we do have

:59:30. > :59:33.some rain at the moment. That rain is heaviest anywhere from the

:59:34. > :59:37.Midlands northwards and lighter from the Midlands southwards. The whole

:59:38. > :59:42.lot is driving over towards the North Sea. The hind it, some

:59:43. > :59:46.brighter skies, some sunshine and also the risk this afternoon of some

:59:47. > :59:49.thunderstorms, particularly so across the Midlands. As we drift

:59:50. > :59:55.westwards, you can see we are expecting some spells. The showers

:59:56. > :00:03.will be hit and miss. At times there will be more cloud around. Across

:00:04. > :00:07.the Midlands we have rain extending across Scotland and into Northern

:00:08. > :00:11.Ireland. North of that, a lot of dry and bright weather in Scotland apart

:00:12. > :00:16.from the north and Western Isles and the North Mainland where we will see

:00:17. > :00:20.some showers. The showers this evening and overnight will slowly

:00:21. > :00:24.started to descend southwards. The rain across Northern Ireland and

:00:25. > :00:27.Scotland is doing the same thing, pushing into Wales and the

:00:28. > :00:37.south-west. Just ahead of it, you could catch one or two showers.

:00:38. > :00:45.Tomorrow, here is our weather front bearing that rain. Showery outbreaks

:00:46. > :00:49.pushing down to the south. Behind it, there will be sunny spells or

:00:50. > :00:54.bright spells. Quite a lot of showers across the north and west of

:00:55. > :01:00.Scotland. Temperatures 13 to 22 in the south-east. Then for the

:01:01. > :01:05.weekend, this weather front continues to drift down towards the

:01:06. > :01:10.south-east, and tends to fizzle. For Friday, and into the weekend, we

:01:11. > :01:17.lose the warmth behind that weather front and cool air streams in as a

:01:18. > :01:20.north-westerly dominates the weather but it will only be a breeze so it

:01:21. > :01:23.will feel cooler rather than cold, but it will feel a lot colder by

:01:24. > :01:27.night and paired with what we have been used to in many parts.

:01:28. > :01:34.Saturday, a mixture of bright spells and showers but the emphasis is on

:01:35. > :01:40.more dry weather than wet. Feeling warm in the south-east. Then a quick

:01:41. > :01:45.look at Sunday. Bright spells, sunny spells or showers, but the emphasis

:01:46. > :01:50.is on the dry weather, rather than the wet. If you are camping at any

:01:51. > :01:57.of the festivals it will feel cool by night.

:01:58. > :01:58.I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme

:01:59. > :02:00.if you've just joined us, coming up before 11.

:02:01. > :02:05.Lloyds has announced it's cutting a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200

:02:06. > :02:08.more branches by the end of next year.

:02:09. > :02:10.The bank is part state-owned and is warning that uncertainty

:02:11. > :02:13.surrounding the Brexit vote could affect its profits in future.

:02:14. > :02:15.It's already in the middle of cutting 9,000 posts.

:02:16. > :02:18.The bank reported a ?2.5 billion pre-tax profit for the half

:02:19. > :02:37.The first new nuclear power plant in the UK for decades is expected to be

:02:38. > :02:41.given the go-ahead to. The French company EDF will be financing most

:02:42. > :02:43.of the project and is holding a board meeting in Paris where it is

:02:44. > :02:47.expected to approve the investment. A daughter has told this programme

:02:48. > :02:50.how her dad died after doctors wrongly decided that his life

:02:51. > :02:53.could not be saved after he was put on the notorious and now discredited

:02:54. > :03:14.end of life care plan called It looked like was battling for

:03:15. > :03:15.life, not ready to let go. To intervene when it looked like his

:03:16. > :03:27.organs were failing. France is banning terrorist

:03:28. > :03:29.photographs in the media, saying it gives them the publicity that they

:03:30. > :03:36.crave. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

:03:37. > :03:39.a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200 more branches by the end

:03:40. > :03:41.of next year. The bank is part state-owned

:03:42. > :03:43.and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

:03:44. > :03:46.could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

:03:47. > :03:48.of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

:03:49. > :03:51.pre-tax profit for the half The first new nuclear power plant

:03:52. > :03:55.in the UK for decades is expected The French company EDF

:03:56. > :04:04.will be financing most French police have formally

:04:05. > :04:06.identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

:04:07. > :04:09.priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

:04:10. > :04:11.who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

:04:12. > :04:14.in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

:04:15. > :04:17.and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

:04:18. > :04:34.as he tried to flee the scene Campaigners have won Italians at the

:04:35. > :04:37.Supreme Court against the Scottish Government's proposes to appoint a

:04:38. > :04:42.named person for every child. A point of contact such as headteacher

:04:43. > :04:46.would be assigned to look after children under 18. Campaigners say

:04:47. > :04:47.it breaches the human rights of parents.

:04:48. > :04:50.Barack Obama has urged Democrats to unite behind Hillary Clinton

:04:51. > :04:53.as the most qualified person ever to run for the White House.

:04:54. > :04:55.Closing the third day of the Democratic National Convention,

:04:56. > :04:57.the outgoing President praised Mrs Clinton as someone

:04:58. > :05:08.A daughter has told this programme how her dad died after doctors

:05:09. > :05:12.wrongly decided that his life could not be saved after he was put

:05:13. > :05:14.on the notorious and now discredited end of life care plan called

:05:15. > :05:17.Josef Boberek was admitted to Hammersmith hospital

:05:18. > :05:19.with a chest infection, but a wrong decision meant fluids

:05:20. > :05:23.Jayne Boberek who fought for three years to get the truth said

:05:24. > :05:29.she still has concerns about hospital procedures.

:05:30. > :05:32.I think the new guidelines are deeply worrying and repeat

:05:33. > :05:38.The constant repetition in the new guidelines

:05:39. > :05:40.about diagnosing the dying patient as if they can be diagnosed.

:05:41. > :05:43.There is an inference that you can diagnose somebody as dying

:05:44. > :05:46.and you cannot there is no clinical evidence that you can do that.

:05:47. > :05:48.And once you make that assumption and start removing treatment,

:05:49. > :06:07.Britain's first new nuclear power plant for decades is expected

:06:08. > :06:11.The board of the French energy firm EDF will make its final decision

:06:12. > :06:16.Hinkley Point in Somerset will take a decade to build and will supply

:06:17. > :06:18.7%of the UK's electricity over its lifetime of 60 years.

:06:19. > :06:21.But the project remains controversial - critics say the UK

:06:22. > :06:23.has guaranteed too high a price for its power

:06:24. > :06:42.Russia says it is working with the Syrian army to open humanitarian

:06:43. > :06:47.corridors to allow evil to leave the besieged city of Aleppo. It is also

:06:48. > :06:51.said Syrian fighters will be allowed to leave. They comes after all

:06:52. > :06:56.supply lines to the east of Aleppo had been cut. Charities are warning

:06:57. > :07:09.of a deepening humanitarian crisis in the city. A lot of you getting in

:07:10. > :07:16.touch with our -- after our interview about the man put on the

:07:17. > :07:21.Liverpool care pathway plan. Seeing in hearing how a lovely elderly

:07:22. > :07:24.gentleman was made to suffer the LCP method for his last days and hours,

:07:25. > :07:39.my mother was killed in the same way. I had the same experience, my

:07:40. > :07:53.mother spent a last days after the lot of a Liverpool care pathway, if

:07:54. > :08:01.I add with this book. And if that each thing is its this is an healthy

:08:02. > :08:31.he effect you can even those let's catch up with the sport. So

:08:32. > :08:35.much to look forward to. The Great Britain team arriving in Brazil

:08:36. > :08:41.ahead of the games. Their training camp is in Belo Horizonte, 273 miles

:08:42. > :08:46.from Rio, where the games open next Friday. British officials believe

:08:47. > :08:51.their facilities are the best in the country. Not the individual national

:08:52. > :08:56.bodies, we are going as Team GB, trying to unite the team, bringing

:08:57. > :09:00.together to take on the world in the greatest challenge of their lives.

:09:01. > :09:06.Russian athletes who have not been banned are arriving in Rio. Much

:09:07. > :09:10.criticism of the IOC, and deposition not to ban the entire Russian team

:09:11. > :09:17.after a state-sponsored doping programme was uncovered. IOC

:09:18. > :09:23.president Thomas Bach has been justifying his decision. It is

:09:24. > :09:27.appreciated, on the one hand, we are sanctioning the system, but on the

:09:28. > :09:37.other hand, we give athletes who are not part of the system the

:09:38. > :09:44.opportunity to demonstrate this. Some of today's football stories.

:09:45. > :09:47.Brendan Rodgers called Celtic's 1-1 draw in their Champions League

:09:48. > :09:51.qualifier in Kazakhstan outstanding. They went behind early on, but their

:09:52. > :09:57.hopes of qualifying for the group stages for the first time since 2013

:09:58. > :10:02.was lifted by Leigh Griffiths' late equaliser. The next leg is next week

:10:03. > :10:06.in Glasgow. High-profile pre-season friendlies continue all over the

:10:07. > :10:11.world. Chelsea beat Liverpool, Gary Cahill scoring the only goal of the

:10:12. > :10:17.game in front of 50,000 people at the Rose Bowl in California. Cesc

:10:18. > :10:23.Fabregas sent off in the second half for this challenge. Transfer news,

:10:24. > :10:28.Manchester City are thought to be close to agreeing a fee with Everton

:10:29. > :10:34.for their defender John Stones. Everton likely to ?150 million for

:10:35. > :10:39.the 22-year-old, part of England's squad at Euro 2016. He came close to

:10:40. > :10:47.joining Chelsea last summer. Johanna Konta through to the third round of

:10:48. > :10:53.the Rogers cup in Montreal. She won her first tour title last weekend.

:10:54. > :10:58.She beat the American qualifier in straight sets. She will play another

:10:59. > :11:02.American in the next round. After the tournament she will head to Rio

:11:03. > :11:07.for the Olympics. One person who will not be there is golf's world

:11:08. > :11:12.number four, Rory McIlroy. With the USPGA championship darting later in

:11:13. > :11:18.New Jersey, the former world number one is hoping for a return to form,

:11:19. > :11:24.after winning four major titles between 2012 and 2014, he has failed

:11:25. > :11:29.to win one since, but he doesn't believe he's far-away. 2012, three

:11:30. > :11:35.to 2014, I averaged one major a year. No reason why I cannot do that

:11:36. > :11:41.for the foreseeable future. That is my benchmark, I feel like I can

:11:42. > :11:44.attain that, and play my best golf. Sometimes it is hard to come up with

:11:45. > :11:49.your best golf each and every week, but I feel it is attainable. The

:11:50. > :11:52.women's British Open is under way at Woburn. Live coverage from one

:11:53. > :11:57.o'clock this afternoon. Prisons are ill-prepared to deal

:11:58. > :11:59.with our ageing population, that's according to the Prisons

:12:00. > :12:01.and Probation Ombudsman who says age-related conditions like dementia

:12:02. > :12:03.are being overlooked, with prison staff unable to properly

:12:04. > :12:06.assess or care for older prisoners. The Ombudsman singled out

:12:07. > :12:08.the example of a 77-year-old inmate who remained handcuffed

:12:09. > :12:10.while in hospital with pneumonia. His condition deteriorated and yet

:12:11. > :12:12.he remain handcuffed For more on this story I'm joined

:12:13. > :12:26.by Peter Dawson, the Deputy Director of the Prison Reform Trust,

:12:27. > :12:28.Mary Piper - a trustee at the Restore Support Network

:12:29. > :12:31.which works with older offenders - Ian Weatherhead, Senior

:12:32. > :12:32.Admiral Nurse with Dementia UK, and Eric Allison,

:12:33. > :12:54.the Guardian's Prison Correspondent Peter, you are soon to be director

:12:55. > :13:01.of the Prison Reform Trust. Give us your reaction, to this report? It is

:13:02. > :13:05.a worrying case. Terribly predictable. We publish a report in

:13:06. > :13:09.2003 saying this issue was coming because of the number of people

:13:10. > :13:14.serving longer sentences, older people sentenced for the first time.

:13:15. > :13:20.It is the fastest-growing section of the prison population. You've

:13:21. > :13:26.flagged it in 2003, what is being done to tackle the needs? In some

:13:27. > :13:31.places, really good work. As is so often in prisons, the good work does

:13:32. > :13:35.not occur everywhere. During that period, the resources available to

:13:36. > :13:40.prisons to deal with these complex issues, just as complex as the

:13:41. > :13:45.community, in some ways, more so. Those resources have been cut

:13:46. > :13:49.erratically by 30% in public prisons in the last three years. The most

:13:50. > :13:54.precious commodity, time, time to get to know people, to understand

:13:55. > :14:01.issues, to understand where people's condition may be changing. That is

:14:02. > :14:03.the commodity we have lost. Your organisation represents older

:14:04. > :14:06.prisoners, is this something you have been concerned about? Like the

:14:07. > :14:16.one picked out by the ombudsman today? Yes I'm a trustee of Restore,

:14:17. > :14:23.a user led organisation for older prisoners. This is a matter of

:14:24. > :14:27.concern. I am also a medical practitioner, so I would like to put

:14:28. > :14:31.it into context. Prisons are not islands, they are part of the

:14:32. > :14:39.community. People who come into prison come from the community.

:14:40. > :14:45.Prisons, since 2006, all people in prison are NHS patients. Since the

:14:46. > :14:50.1st of April, 2015, local authorities have a responsibility to

:14:51. > :14:57.meet the social care needs of people in prison. Of course this is a

:14:58. > :15:06.worrying report. A deeply distressing event. Prisons are not

:15:07. > :15:11.there on their own, coping with this. This is a partnership, for the

:15:12. > :15:16.NHS, and for local authorities to assist. In practice, what are you

:15:17. > :15:22.seeing, are they working well together?

:15:23. > :15:30.I think as Peter says, it is patchy. We have only had one year of local

:15:31. > :15:36.authorities being responsible for social care. There was research by

:15:37. > :15:41.the Association of directors of social services, which showed that

:15:42. > :15:48.some prisons are faring people and they are being assessed, but a very

:15:49. > :15:53.large percentage, still that relationship has to be embedded.

:15:54. > :15:59.Ian, you are to mention nurse, anyone who has had or had as a

:16:00. > :16:05.relative with dementia, knows the difficulties of looking after

:16:06. > :16:08.somebody with dementia. Do you think prison is a place for somebody with

:16:09. > :16:13.dementia? That is obviously a very difficult question and will depend

:16:14. > :16:16.on individual to individual. I think if people are developing dementia

:16:17. > :16:23.within an institution, within a prison setting, one has to look at

:16:24. > :16:32.that individual as the disease progresses. Prison environments

:16:33. > :16:37.would cause problems for somebody with dementia. The problem in a

:16:38. > :16:44.prison is it can be harder to identify compared with a community

:16:45. > :16:50.setting. Why's that? Because of the structure and the routine. And

:16:51. > :16:56.because they are not with people who know them well? And we all function

:16:57. > :17:00.better within our own homes. Are you seeing something which could look

:17:01. > :17:05.like dementia in prison might not be dementia or that prison could bring

:17:06. > :17:09.an dementia? It may not bring an dementia but it may not be noticed

:17:10. > :17:16.because of the routine that people go through on a day-to-day basis. It

:17:17. > :17:22.is only when different aspects of the illness, different behaviours,

:17:23. > :17:26.and different idiosyncrasies that somebody may come out with, more

:17:27. > :17:29.confused, more forgetfulness, inappropriate behaviour, that is

:17:30. > :17:34.when Sandie may start flagging up there is an issue but it may go

:17:35. > :17:40.unnoticed for quite a long time. We are also joined by Eric Allison, the

:17:41. > :17:44.Guardian's prison correspondent. You spent many years in prison and I

:17:45. > :17:50.know you have contact with older prisoners. Is this something you

:17:51. > :17:56.have been looking at? Yes, and sadly, the case of this 77-year-old

:17:57. > :18:00.man is not unusual. Elderly and infirm prisoners who cannot possibly

:18:01. > :18:05.present a danger routinely handcuffed when they go to prison. I

:18:06. > :18:12.have come across cases where people have died in handcuffs. Peter, is

:18:13. > :18:17.prison a place for somebody with dementia? Should someone with

:18:18. > :18:21.dementia be handcuffed? Two different issues. People get a

:18:22. > :18:25.sentence from the court. If people are dying, it is possible for people

:18:26. > :18:29.to be released on compassionate grounds. Governors also have the

:18:30. > :18:33.power to release people temporarily, and one of the things that the

:18:34. > :18:38.ombudsman says is that power is not used enough. The handcuffing issue,

:18:39. > :18:42.it is very reminiscent of debates we had years ago about women who were

:18:43. > :18:45.pregnant and were being handcuffed. There were a series of cases which

:18:46. > :18:50.came to light where people said, what on earth are we doing? I think

:18:51. > :18:58.we should have a sense of deja vu that this should be a wake-up call.

:18:59. > :19:01.Again, it is down to time. One of the things prison managers are

:19:02. > :19:04.expected to do is go to a hospital where someone is being cared for and

:19:05. > :19:08.check if the level of security is appropriate. I cannot believe if a

:19:09. > :19:12.manager had had time to go out, they would have said this person needs to

:19:13. > :19:20.be chained up when clearly, they are not only near the end of their life

:19:21. > :19:23.but also not in a position to escape. When you say about letting

:19:24. > :19:28.some doubt on a temporary basis, is that for an assessment? It can be to

:19:29. > :19:32.work, to volunteer, to live. It could be the most compassionate

:19:33. > :19:35.thing to do for somebody who's not coping well in prison and is near

:19:36. > :19:39.the end of their life. It is difficult. Some of these people are

:19:40. > :19:47.serving very long sentences for very serious crimes so there is a

:19:48. > :19:50.judgment in every case. Could almost see a loophole opening up but if

:19:51. > :19:55.dementia becomes a ticket out of jail, someone could put on the

:19:56. > :20:03.symptoms? I do not think that is a real risk. Do you think that is a

:20:04. > :20:07.risk? I suspect not. I think with the appropriate services and a

:20:08. > :20:11.psychiatrist with the right expertise going support the prison

:20:12. > :20:17.staff I think that is a greater reduced risk of that happening.

:20:18. > :20:23.Mary? I agree. I would like to go back to what you were talking about

:20:24. > :20:29.before, about dementia and other conditions, and in research

:20:30. > :20:35.undertaken many years ago, looking at older people in prison, their

:20:36. > :20:40.mental health, actually 30% of the men in that sample had a depressive

:20:41. > :20:47.illness, and only a small percentage dementia. I think that from our

:20:48. > :20:52.perspective, we would want the right services to be available to people

:20:53. > :20:57.in prison. For older prisoners, just like older people in the community,

:20:58. > :21:03.to have access to appropriate services with an accurate diagnosis.

:21:04. > :21:10.Old-age medicine is complex. We had GPs in prison but the older

:21:11. > :21:14.prisoners should be referred to the specialist services in just the same

:21:15. > :21:22.way as they would be if they were living in their own home. And Peter,

:21:23. > :21:27.as you have said, all of that stuff is expensive. Do you see any signs

:21:28. > :21:31.of this being an issue that will be invested in? The huge dilemma for

:21:32. > :21:35.the prison service is the work does not match the resources at the

:21:36. > :21:38.moment. You can either increase the resources or you can reduce the

:21:39. > :21:43.work, and if we sent people to prison for shorter sentences, and

:21:44. > :21:47.not so many people, then we would have less work to do and the people

:21:48. > :21:55.who really needed to be there could get the care they are entitled to.

:21:56. > :21:58.Thank you for joining us. We unfortunately lost our

:21:59. > :22:03.communications with Eric after we heard a brief word from him. In a

:22:04. > :22:18.statement the Ministry of Justice said the

:22:19. > :22:25.Could your office job be bad for your health?

:22:26. > :22:28.According to scientists you should do one hour of physical activity

:22:29. > :22:31.a day to combat the negative effects a desk job could have

:22:32. > :22:39.The new nuclear plant to be built at Hinkley Point in Somerset,

:22:40. > :22:41.is set to get it's final approval later today.

:22:42. > :22:45.The French firm EDF - which will finance most

:22:46. > :22:48.of the 18 billion pound project - is holding a board meeting

:22:49. > :22:53.at which it is expected to approve the investment.

:22:54. > :22:56.Following that agreement, legally-binding contracts will be

:22:57. > :22:59.signed and construction work can begin on what will be the UK's first

:23:00. > :23:04.new nuclear power plant in more than 20 years.

:23:05. > :23:07.I'm joined by Dr Jenifer Baxter, Head of Energy and Environment

:23:08. > :23:10.at the Institute of mechanical Engineers and Molly Scott Cato

:23:11. > :23:21.who is a Green MEP for South West England.

:23:22. > :23:29.Jennifer, what is your response to this? Broadly speaking, I think it

:23:30. > :23:36.is important for the nuclear skills in the UK, it brings high value

:23:37. > :23:42.opportunities for people living in the south-west. And if I can come to

:23:43. > :23:46.you all so, Molly, what is your reaction? I'm very concerned that in

:23:47. > :23:50.order to persuade EDF and the Chinese companies, we have had to

:23:51. > :23:53.offer them a huge price for the electricity and an enormous subsidy

:23:54. > :23:58.so it will be three times the market price and we are tied into that deal

:23:59. > :24:02.for 35 years so it will make it more expensive for us to pay our

:24:03. > :24:07.electricity bills, and will also put pressure on companies who will have

:24:08. > :24:13.to pay high prices and cannot compete with foreign investors.

:24:14. > :24:19.There was talk about this not going ahead because of Brexit. It is

:24:20. > :24:23.clearly seen as a viable proposition? I think Brexit will not

:24:24. > :24:29.make a significant difference. We are very close to France and we will

:24:30. > :24:33.continue to work very closely with them as engineers. And in terms of

:24:34. > :24:37.the costs of the energy that will be produced for consumers, we were

:24:38. > :24:43.hearing there from Molly concerns about that. What is your view on

:24:44. > :24:49.that? The cost of electricity depends on a number of factors. It

:24:50. > :24:52.is not just what a facility is producing but also other types of

:24:53. > :25:00.electricity coming onto the grid. Over the next ten years it is very

:25:01. > :25:04.likely we will see a lot of investment and the renewable sector.

:25:05. > :25:08.It may be that it does not end up being more expensive, but there is

:25:09. > :25:12.no denying that any large infrastructure project like this

:25:13. > :25:17.will cost a significant amount of money. Is there a sustainable energy

:25:18. > :25:21.policy without nuclear in this country? At the moment we are in a

:25:22. > :25:25.position of transition. This transition has come about because of

:25:26. > :25:29.some of the consequences of success, and that is pushing large amounts of

:25:30. > :25:43.renewables onto the grid. At the moment, we cannot quite manage how

:25:44. > :25:47.they are distributed and at what times of day. We have a very limited

:25:48. > :25:49.storage window and we are looking at new innovation around demand site

:25:50. > :25:51.management. We could get to a point where we will be completely

:25:52. > :25:55.sustained by renewable resources? There will always need to be a base

:25:56. > :25:58.level and it goes up and down at different times of the day. What we

:25:59. > :26:00.need to be sure is we don't not have that electricity that all of our

:26:01. > :26:04.hospitals and critical services are well taken care of. In the future,

:26:05. > :26:08.looking ten or 15 years away, there will be a lot of changes. We will

:26:09. > :26:19.learn how to manage the renewables on the grid so very large projects

:26:20. > :26:21.like Hinckley, we may not need so many in the future. Molly Scott

:26:22. > :26:25.Cato, when you hear that argument, how would you respond to that? We

:26:26. > :26:31.could not do it at the moment without a nuclear plant? I agree we

:26:32. > :26:34.are seeing huge changes and innovations in the renewable market

:26:35. > :26:42.and energy generally, which is why it is a bad idea to tie ourselves

:26:43. > :26:45.into this high energy price over 35 years. I am concerned because I

:26:46. > :26:49.represent the south-west and this is an important investment for

:26:50. > :26:52.Somerset, but actually, it will only create 900 permanent jobs and

:26:53. > :26:59.renewables, if we really put our money into them we could create over

:27:00. > :27:03.120,000 jobs just in the south-west. In terms of making sure the lights

:27:04. > :27:09.stay on and everything else in the meantime, is there really any other

:27:10. > :27:13.answer other than this? Hinkley is making it likely we will have an

:27:14. > :27:17.energy gap because it is an untested technology and it will be ten years

:27:18. > :27:20.before we get any energy from Hinkley and the two other places

:27:21. > :27:24.where they have tried to build this reactor have failed and they are

:27:25. > :27:32.years behind schedule. It will be a good idea to put our future in the

:27:33. > :27:36.renewables basket. But it is not there now? It absolutely is there

:27:37. > :27:41.now. Renewable technology is working. We are making it important

:27:42. > :27:45.advances in terms of storage. The boss of the National Grid himself

:27:46. > :27:49.has said the baseload concept is an obsolete concept now and we need to

:27:50. > :27:55.have more diversify technology and focus on matching supply and demand.

:27:56. > :28:05.Jenifer, Molly says renewable mix our resources less reliable? We are

:28:06. > :28:09.in a transition point. At times we have too much electricity and we are

:28:10. > :28:13.paying through consumers at these for companies to turn up and use

:28:14. > :28:16.that electricity. We are not in a place and there is not likely to be

:28:17. > :28:21.at any time soon that we will have storage which will last longer than

:28:22. > :28:28.three or four hours. We do need to have some form of baseload. It can

:28:29. > :28:31.come from nuclear or fossil fuels. We should have some form of carbon

:28:32. > :28:33.capture and storage to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide going into

:28:34. > :28:42.the atmosphere, and nuclear does very well there. It is very low

:28:43. > :28:51.emissions. Doctor Jenifer Baxter and Molly Scott Cato, thank you both

:28:52. > :28:56.very much. Judges at the High Court of Scotland

:28:57. > :29:02.have ruled against the controversial named Person scheme. Judges say some

:29:03. > :29:05.proposals breach rights to privacy and family life. Our correspondent

:29:06. > :29:11.Stephen God and is in Edinburgh. Tell us what the thinking was behind

:29:12. > :29:15.this policy? I think it has been a controversial policy ever since it

:29:16. > :29:22.was introduced a couple of years ago, voted through unanimously but

:29:23. > :29:24.since then the controversy has snowballed culminating in today's

:29:25. > :29:29.decision. I think it is useful to look at the background to this, what

:29:30. > :29:32.exactly is the named person scheme? You touched on it in your

:29:33. > :29:38.introduction. It would mean every child from zero to 18 in Scotland

:29:39. > :29:42.would have a state appointed named person. That would be a teacher or

:29:43. > :29:47.health visitor who would offer additional support to a family, if

:29:48. > :29:51.it was felt it was needed. The Scottish Government say it would

:29:52. > :29:57.provide a vital safety net across communities to ensure that children

:29:58. > :30:01.don't slip through that net. But opponents of its day it is an

:30:02. > :30:07.unjustifiable intrusion into family life. The opponents took their

:30:08. > :30:12.concerns, first of all to the Court of Session here in Edinburgh who

:30:13. > :30:17.dismissed their concerns and said they were guilty of hyperbole. Then

:30:18. > :30:21.they took it to the Supreme Court of the UK. The Supreme Court ruling was

:30:22. > :30:25.today. The judges had two days of evidence in March and since then,

:30:26. > :30:29.the five judges have spent time considering what they heard over

:30:30. > :30:34.those two days, and they have given us their judgment. In some ways, it

:30:35. > :30:41.is a double-edged sword. They have ruled it cannot go ahead in its

:30:42. > :30:45.current form. They say the aim of act is benign but the problem they

:30:46. > :30:48.have with it is the way particularly the Scottish Government are

:30:49. > :30:54.proposing to share information. They say it is unlawful and does not

:30:55. > :30:59.comply with European Convention on human rights. Those defective

:31:00. > :31:03.provisions they say mean it cannot be brought into force. What is key

:31:04. > :31:08.now is the timetable. It was due to come into effect on the 31st of

:31:09. > :31:12.August, so the end of next month. That cannot now happen. The Scottish

:31:13. > :31:18.Government have been given 42 days to come up with a timetable which

:31:19. > :31:23.would mean making the changes which mean the legislation could comply

:31:24. > :31:26.with the Supreme Court findings. The Deputy First Minister John Swinney

:31:27. > :31:29.says they are absolutely committed to the policy. Thank you. Still to

:31:30. > :31:31.come... In the wake of the attacks in France

:31:32. > :31:34.- some French media say they will no longer publish the names and photos

:31:35. > :31:37.of terrorists - we want And could your office job be

:31:38. > :31:40.bad for your health? Scientists say you should do one

:31:41. > :31:44.hour of exercise every day to combat the negative effects that sitting

:31:45. > :31:46.all day at work could have Let's catch up on the news with

:31:47. > :32:09.Anita. Lloyds has announced it's cutting

:32:10. > :32:12.a further 3,000 jobs and closing 200 more branches by the end

:32:13. > :32:14.of next year. The bank is part state-owned

:32:15. > :32:17.and is warning that uncertainty surrounding the Brexit vote

:32:18. > :32:19.could affect its profits in future. It's already in the middle

:32:20. > :32:21.of cutting 9,000 posts. The bank reported a ?2.5 billion

:32:22. > :32:42.pre-tax profit for the half Campaigners have won in the High

:32:43. > :32:46.Court against the Scottish Cabinet but that as the name of a garden for

:32:47. > :32:48.each and every child under 18. Opponents argue that the breach the

:32:49. > :32:53.human rights of parents. Britain's first new nuclear power

:32:54. > :32:55.plant for decades is expected The board of the french energy firm

:32:56. > :32:59.EDF will make its final decision Hinkley Point in Somerset will take

:33:00. > :33:04.a decade to build and will supply 7% of the UK's electricity

:33:05. > :33:07.over its lifetime of 60 years. But the project remains

:33:08. > :33:09.controversial - critics say the UK has guaranteed too high

:33:10. > :33:21.a price for its power President Hollande says France will

:33:22. > :33:22.former National Guard to better protect the country from terrorist

:33:23. > :33:24.attacks. French police have formally

:33:25. > :33:26.identified the second of the two attackers who killed an elderly

:33:27. > :33:29.priest in Rouen on Tuesday. He's Abdelmalik Petitjean,

:33:30. > :33:31.who was 19 and from eastern France. His identity card had been found

:33:32. > :33:34.in the house of the other attacker, earlier identified as Adel Kermiche

:33:35. > :33:37.and DNA tests confirmed it was him. He was shot dead by police

:33:38. > :33:40.as he tried to flee the scene A daughter has told this programme

:33:41. > :33:48.how her dad died after doctors wrongly decided that his life

:33:49. > :33:52.could not be saved after he was put on the notorious and now discredited

:33:53. > :33:54.end of life care plan called Josef Boberek was admitted

:33:55. > :33:57.to Hammersmith hospital with a chest infection,

:33:58. > :34:15.but a wrong decision meant fluids It meant fluids and medication were

:34:16. > :34:25.withdrawn for him. The NHS Trust has apologised. Russia says they're

:34:26. > :34:30.working with Syrian fighters to open humanitarian escape lines from the

:34:31. > :34:32.city of Olympia. Humanitarian bodies are warning of a deepening crisis in

:34:33. > :34:35.the city. If you sit behind a desk in your job

:34:36. > :34:39.a new study suggests an hour's light exercise a day could help you avoid

:34:40. > :34:41.an early death. The medical journal the Lancet has

:34:42. > :34:44.published a series of papers The research claims it's linked

:34:45. > :34:48.to increased risks of heart disease, That's a summary of the latest news,

:34:49. > :34:52.join me for BBC Newsroom The anticipation is growing ahead

:34:53. > :35:02.of next week's Olympic Games, with Britain's first athletes having

:35:03. > :35:04.already arrived in Brazil Those who have arrived

:35:05. > :35:09.in Belo Horizonte include Nicola Adams and the rest

:35:10. > :35:11.of the boxing squad. Well, they arrive against

:35:12. > :35:13.a difficult backdrop - International Olympic Committee

:35:14. > :35:15.President Thomas Bach has defended the controversial decision not

:35:16. > :35:18.to ban the entire Russian team. He says it's to give

:35:19. > :35:27.clean athletes a chance. Celtic came from behind

:35:28. > :35:29.in Kazakhstan to draw their Champions League third

:35:30. > :35:30.round qualifier first leg against Astana -

:35:31. > :35:33.thanks to a late goal from striker The second leg at Parkhead

:35:34. > :35:37.is next weekend. Johanna Konta is through

:35:38. > :35:39.to the third round of The British number one,

:35:40. > :35:43.beat American qualifier Vania King in straight

:35:44. > :35:59.sets 7-5, 6-1. Rory McIlroy is hoping to return to

:36:00. > :36:02.form at the final golf major the season, the USPGA in New Jersey. He

:36:03. > :36:13.has not biggie-macro majoring two years. --

:36:14. > :36:23.he has not won major FIFA years. France is still reeling

:36:24. > :36:26.from the murder of an innocent, defenceless priest, at the hand

:36:27. > :36:28.of IS terrorists, earlier this week. It's the latest in a string

:36:29. > :36:31.of attacks on the French people over Now a French Newspaper has announced

:36:32. > :36:35.it's changing the way it It says it'll no longer publish any

:36:36. > :36:38.photos of the terrorists responsible, to stop them

:36:39. > :36:40.from being glorified. It's also refusing to print any

:36:41. > :36:43.of the propaganda material that terrorists post online,

:36:44. > :36:45.or any of the claims IS make This is the editorial published

:36:46. > :36:48.by Le Monde's director For us, this battle cannot be

:36:49. > :36:52.considered an exclusive cause intelligence agencies

:36:53. > :36:58.or politicians. This battle concerns

:36:59. > :37:00.all components of society and primarily our media landscape,

:37:01. > :37:02.restructured by the After the Nice Attack,

:37:03. > :37:05.we are publishing no more images of terrorists,

:37:06. > :37:07.perpetrator of killings We can speak now to

:37:08. > :37:10.Christian Makarian, who's the editor of L'Express -

:37:11. > :37:12.a French magazine. And here with me to discuss

:37:13. > :37:14.the decisions is David Aaronivitch, Rachel Johnson, who writes

:37:15. > :37:18.for the Mail on Sunday. Jonathan Russell, from

:37:19. > :37:19.the counter-extremist think tank Qullium, and Jacqui Putnam

:37:20. > :37:37.who survived the London tube Thank you for joining us. Christian,

:37:38. > :37:43.you are and editor in France, will you do the same? I don't think so.

:37:44. > :37:48.Even if there is a very good intention, we can have very many

:37:49. > :37:54.doubts on the effects of the good intention. The intention is good,

:37:55. > :38:00.the media does not want to bury their head in the sand. They take

:38:01. > :38:07.seriously into consideration the possible responsibility of the media

:38:08. > :38:13.in the Isis propaganda throughout Europe. This is good, showing that

:38:14. > :38:18.the media does not want to stay apart. They are also part of the

:38:19. > :38:27.fight against this horrible propaganda. This is for the good

:38:28. > :38:35.part. I have many doubts. As do many other journalists in Paris. Are we

:38:36. > :38:44.sure this is a way of reacting against a sophisticated propaganda,

:38:45. > :39:05.like Isis? In other words, I don't think Isis propaganda is frail, and

:39:06. > :39:11.can be fought by anonymity. I recall anonymity is thought by people

:39:12. > :39:15.changing their identity. Going to Syria, they use other passports and

:39:16. > :39:23.names. They play with identity themselves. I am not sure hiding

:39:24. > :39:30.their identity or faces is a very efficient way to fight this very

:39:31. > :39:39.deep propaganda. That works in the minds and the brains. Nevertheless,

:39:40. > :39:44.I think some of the media has the right to take the decision. Jackie,

:39:45. > :39:57.you survive the 77 bombings, how do you feel when you see the faces of

:39:58. > :40:03.terrorists in newspapers? I would not rather not remember them. The

:40:04. > :40:17.people that should be remembered people who died survive. I don't

:40:18. > :40:25.think giving them the oxygen of publicity is doing any good. I

:40:26. > :40:34.understand everyone needs to know who they are, but the general public

:40:35. > :40:39.do not. The anti-terrorist people do. I don't want to know the name of

:40:40. > :40:44.a man who killed the priest. Is that because of personal sensitivity, or

:40:45. > :40:49.wider concerns about what is in the public interest? It is the second. I

:40:50. > :40:56.don't think it is in the public interest to encourage people to

:40:57. > :41:03.think if they perpetrate such a terrible event, making this happen,

:41:04. > :41:09.I don't think it is good to give them the publicity. They seek it. I

:41:10. > :41:15.would like to deny them that. David, do you think it is right to deny

:41:16. > :41:18.them? The first responsibility that journalists have in a democracy is

:41:19. > :41:24.to give people the information, what is going on, tell the truth. I am

:41:25. > :41:29.afraid to say, other considerations that are important, and sometimes

:41:30. > :41:37.become pre-eminent, they are usually secondary. The first issue, where

:41:38. > :41:40.does the logic of this take you. The thing that most sparks people do

:41:41. > :41:49.acts of terrorism is not that they have been name, but the acts

:41:50. > :41:53.themselves. Should you give publicity to acts of terror? If you

:41:54. > :41:57.suppress it, you might not giving people the information they need.

:41:58. > :42:06.How does the picture gives somebody information present people have a

:42:07. > :42:09.great deal of curiosity. Giving them the capacity to understand the

:42:10. > :42:13.location. Even the picture of the person themselves. It will tell them

:42:14. > :42:18.something about their rage, the kind of person they are. But they think

:42:19. > :42:22.the cost of showing that picture is some kind of incredible publicity

:42:23. > :42:27.that otherwise this person would not get, let's say, on the Internet.

:42:28. > :42:33.Which is actually where probably most of the self sterilising takes

:42:34. > :42:39.place. Rachel, do you think they should be published? No, I don't. It

:42:40. > :42:45.was time for a futile gesture, as someone said. I like the fact that

:42:46. > :42:57.France take the lead, not putting on front pages mugshots of terrorists.

:42:58. > :43:06.It is contagious. 247 people have died in six countries over the

:43:07. > :43:12.summer. We cannot name a single number of these people. The killers

:43:13. > :43:22.have been publicised. Do you think it is the pictures out there? Is the

:43:23. > :43:32.crisis of toxic masculinity. As will the radicalisation and jihadist

:43:33. > :43:36.glorification of these men. It is not the 72 virgins in heaven, it is

:43:37. > :43:39.everybody will be looking at their faces on the front page, that has to

:43:40. > :43:45.be part of it. Quite right not to put them on. What do you think?

:43:46. > :43:50.There are two types of jihadists propaganda. The pieces of video

:43:51. > :43:55.content they will put out, Isis coming through the Internet. The

:43:56. > :44:00.second propaganda is the propaganda of the deed. In the last 53 days,

:44:01. > :44:07.with the 72 attacks claimed by jihadists. They know there will be a

:44:08. > :44:12.constant stream of media attention, causes, motivations, and to the

:44:13. > :44:16.individuals carrying them out, they know they can stay relevant by

:44:17. > :44:20.creating something so barbaric and shocking, the media cannot help but

:44:21. > :44:28.publish it. I'm glad there is a discussion about how they publish

:44:29. > :44:31.it. How they follow that. Whether there is information so the public

:44:32. > :44:35.can keep themselves safe. To understand the authorities are

:44:36. > :44:46.taking appropriate action. I'm glad Le

:44:47. > :44:53.Monde has taken a stand, saying not gay to glorify you in this way, not

:44:54. > :44:56.the publicity they crave. What about the fact it is on the Internet

:44:57. > :45:03.anyway? The social media and Internet aspects is part of this,

:45:04. > :45:07.too. For them to say they are part of the full-spectrum response. Not

:45:08. > :45:10.just looking to the security services, the military and the

:45:11. > :45:22.government to keep us safe, but civil society has a role to play. I

:45:23. > :45:29.think it is Le temporary standing up saying, it is not just their

:45:30. > :45:33.response, what can you do? I am not going to publish stills of Isis

:45:34. > :45:37.propaganda, I am not going to do this, I'm going to remember those

:45:38. > :45:38.who have died. I'm going to do something productive to turn the

:45:39. > :45:49.tide I completely understand the impulse

:45:50. > :45:53.and there are all kinds of places that journalists exercise restraint.

:45:54. > :45:56.We do it when we report suicide, four example. The first thing is,

:45:57. > :46:01.you have to be careful where this leads to. It is not actually the

:46:02. > :46:07.role of the media to do some of the things you have been talking about.

:46:08. > :46:10.You may wish that we do but actually, the information aspect of

:46:11. > :46:16.education and democracy is the main functional role of the media. If you

:46:17. > :46:20.in any substantial way start restricting the information you put

:46:21. > :46:25.out, because you are afraid of the impact that information may have, in

:46:26. > :46:30.that case, you are beginning the act of self censorship, which means you

:46:31. > :46:35.see yourself as part of a mobilised force in society, rather than a

:46:36. > :46:45.force which looks at that society and reports back to itself. David is

:46:46. > :46:51.making a Freedom of Information point. It is not as if news agencies

:46:52. > :46:55.are required by law to put this information in. The editor has

:46:56. > :47:00.exercised his right to do so. I take the point that if mainstream media

:47:01. > :47:04.decides to be much more selective about what information it that is

:47:05. > :47:08.out there, and I think it should, because the daily atrocity factor we

:47:09. > :47:14.have been living through means we all feel we do not want to go to

:47:15. > :47:21.France or go to Turkey. It is having a direct impact on people's live as

:47:22. > :47:29.a result of the media coverage. But if Isis think the mainstream media

:47:30. > :47:33.will not cover it, they might do other things like streaming of

:47:34. > :47:38.atrocities and mounted on their own platforms. Let them do that but I do

:47:39. > :47:45.not like to see it on the front pages. People have a choice about

:47:46. > :47:53.whether to buy a newspaper or listen to the radio. But it is everywhere.

:47:54. > :47:57.In America after the Twin Towers fell, the bereaved families had to

:47:58. > :48:04.join together to ask the media and to get a law, I could be wrong about

:48:05. > :48:09.whether it is a law or not, but to actually stop them filming, showing

:48:10. > :48:18.these films again and again and again. And I met a lady whose mother

:48:19. > :48:27.died on one of the planes, and she worked very hard to make sure that

:48:28. > :48:30.they could stop this, it is almost a pornography, isn't it? People forget

:48:31. > :48:37.that these are real lives which have been affected. We need to know these

:48:38. > :48:43.things are happening but we don't need to glorify the people who are

:48:44. > :48:45.doing it. I take your point, David, about the democracy and the need to

:48:46. > :48:54.know and they need to inform, but we don't need to lionise these people,

:48:55. > :49:05.we don't need to make them into an Isis superstar, we don't. Other

:49:06. > :49:11.media organisations in France are following Le Monde's decision not to

:49:12. > :49:14.publish names, how do you guard against the kind of lionise Asian

:49:15. > :49:28.that we were hearing described there? There are other places making

:49:29. > :49:41.that decision. But what are we talking about? Changing the rules of

:49:42. > :49:49.democracy, regarding the media, just because that is supposedly, it has

:49:50. > :49:58.an effect on, and amplification of Isis propaganda, is also a way to

:49:59. > :50:04.give Isis a victory inside the media landscape in the democracies. I

:50:05. > :50:10.think the answer is not simple, I don't say yes or no, I say it is

:50:11. > :50:17.very complex, to establish a link between their propaganda and what we

:50:18. > :50:25.call the glorification. I have never seen a newspaper, magazine, TV or

:50:26. > :50:31.radio in France or refine the murderers, never. So this notion of

:50:32. > :50:37.glorification has to be defined clearly. That is the first point.

:50:38. > :50:43.The second point is, personally as a journalist, I refuse to give up and

:50:44. > :50:46.change the rules of democracy, just because it can have this or that

:50:47. > :50:56.type of effect that I cannot evaluate. So it also has to be taken

:50:57. > :51:02.in consideration, in this crucial debate, and finally, the last

:51:03. > :51:08.argument, these people, are we sure that they look for fame? Or do they

:51:09. > :51:15.look for blood? You can say that fame can help them to make more

:51:16. > :51:20.massacres of things like that, but you have to demonstrate it. Is that

:51:21. > :51:30.their propaganda is very sophisticated. It is in their way of

:51:31. > :51:33.thinking, or in their way of not thinking, but it is very difficult

:51:34. > :51:44.to fight just with a question of image. It has to be found by the

:51:45. > :51:49.media, in the core of it, in the way it works, for instance, there is a

:51:50. > :51:55.crucial fact which is the age of the murderers. They are all very young

:51:56. > :51:59.people. This has to be examined. And on that point, the fact they are

:52:00. > :52:03.young people, the fact that the names and pictures are out there,

:52:04. > :52:08.that a lot of digging goes on about the lives behind these people who

:52:09. > :52:10.have committed whatever they have committed and stories emerge about

:52:11. > :52:14.the lives which are perhaps that odds with the message they want to

:52:15. > :52:21.put out, which is it is being done in the name of religion, the sort of

:52:22. > :52:25.reasons that are put out there? That is right. And while the French press

:52:26. > :52:31.has been responsible historically on this point, we have to remember that

:52:32. > :52:36.right here in the UK, we live streamed a press conference in which

:52:37. > :52:43.an organisation called jihadi John a beautiful young man. We had a

:52:44. > :52:47.magazine, Rollingstone Magazine put the Boston bomb up on its front

:52:48. > :52:54.cover and called him the bomber as if he was some sort of music star.

:52:55. > :52:58.It is outrageous? Should that be banned? Dodig should be banned and I

:52:59. > :53:02.don't think it is the job of governments or press regulators to

:53:03. > :53:06.say this is how you should do it, but within a free speech debate, I

:53:07. > :53:09.think media editors can take that decision themselves, and if they

:53:10. > :53:14.want to be responsible within that, just as they do want covering

:53:15. > :53:19.stories of suicide, that is fine, and should be encouraged, and should

:53:20. > :53:24.be replicated if they can on social media as well. This is why it has to

:53:25. > :53:28.be taken out of the government 's fear and into the public debate as

:53:29. > :53:32.we are doing now. A lot of people getting in touch. Jay says we should

:53:33. > :53:36.certainly name these murdering terrorists, the more we know, the

:53:37. > :53:43.better we can protect ourselves. Another says all media should not

:53:44. > :53:47.publicise anything to do with Isis or any organisation, a total media

:53:48. > :53:49.blackout needed. Thank you for your comments and thank you for joining

:53:50. > :54:00.us as well. Some news just coming

:54:01. > :54:02.in to us this morning. Stockport's Stepping Hill hospital

:54:03. > :54:04.has confirmed that it's to cut 350 full time jobs and close a ward due

:54:05. > :54:07.to budget pressures. The hospital is ?40 million

:54:08. > :54:09.in deficit and plans The hospital trust says it's hoping

:54:10. > :54:13.the posts can be lost How many times do you get up

:54:14. > :54:25.from your desk and go for a walk - even if it's just to grab some fresh

:54:26. > :54:28.air during your lunch? Well, not enough according

:54:29. > :54:29.to new research. It's found that doing at least one

:54:30. > :54:33.hour of "brisk walking" each day, could offset the risks of early

:54:34. > :54:35.death linked to a Let's talk to Lauretta Johnnie,

:54:36. > :54:39.a personal trainer and the founder of Full Figured Fitness

:54:40. > :54:42.and Lucy Wilkinson, a senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart

:54:43. > :54:52.Foundation. Thank you both for joining us. What

:54:53. > :54:59.do you make of this research, do you think we are spending too much time

:55:00. > :55:05.at our desks and it is damaging our health, the researchers are saying

:55:06. > :55:08.more than smoking? It is interesting looking at these large reports and

:55:09. > :55:13.the suggestion that an hour of brisk walking could offset the eight hours

:55:14. > :55:18.of sitting at a desk a day. It is a subject that we need to approach.

:55:19. > :55:22.Physical inactivity is a huge problem worldwide. The World Health

:55:23. > :55:25.Organisation says it is the fourth leading risk factor for mortality

:55:26. > :55:34.worldwide. It is something we need to address and we need to make it

:55:35. > :55:37.accessible to people and we need people to think, I'm sitting here

:55:38. > :55:46.for eight hours and I need to do something to counteract that and it

:55:47. > :55:50.needs to be through physicality. OK, Lauretta, you have brought some kit

:55:51. > :55:57.in. You can see by their posture that they sit in chairs for a long

:55:58. > :56:01.time. When we get to the stage of having physical pain we think we

:56:02. > :56:05.should address it so we should start addressing it now. So you need to

:56:06. > :56:12.think about your posture but that will not improve your fitness?

:56:13. > :56:16.Definitely. Our muscles can become underactive definitely, and even

:56:17. > :56:20.before you get into work, you can do things like leaving home earlier,

:56:21. > :56:27.walking to an extra bus stop, when you meet people at the bottom of the

:56:28. > :56:32.stairs, you can walk to work. And you can set challenges in the

:56:33. > :56:37.workplace and do exercises together. Things like taking the stairs,

:56:38. > :56:42.walking rather than driving, if you can, if your journey is short enough

:56:43. > :56:49.for that, or many of us doing that or have we got too lazy? These

:56:50. > :56:55.things do add up. It is about doing small, manageable pieces of

:56:56. > :56:58.activity. What we recommend and what the British Heart Foundation

:56:59. > :57:03.recommends is 150 minutes moderate intensity activity a week. We say

:57:04. > :57:08.that is easily broken down into 530 minute periods and you can break

:57:09. > :57:13.that down into ten periods. It does not sound like much? It is about

:57:14. > :57:19.setting yourself and achievable target. If you get to that,

:57:20. > :57:25.brilliant. How minibus are not doing that? Cardiovascular disease is huge

:57:26. > :57:29.in the UK. There are seven million people living with cardiovascular

:57:30. > :57:34.disease and inactivity is a huge risk factor. There are a lot of

:57:35. > :57:39.people not reaching their activity levels. But do you have to get to

:57:40. > :57:42.the stage where you are out of breath and stretching yourself? It

:57:43. > :57:48.is about building up to that point. This report says an hour of physical

:57:49. > :57:53.activity a day can offset sitting at a desk. But one hour is a lot for

:57:54. > :58:00.people who do not do anything on a daily basis, so it is about breaking

:58:01. > :58:04.that down? A quick tip? First and foremost, get the OK from the

:58:05. > :58:09.doctor, you can hold your tummy in, clench or bottom, you can do walking

:58:10. > :58:15.and running, you can do some leg lifts. I have got the band here. You

:58:16. > :58:19.can do some stretches with the band so it is a nice chest stretch

:58:20. > :58:24.breathing in and out, moving your arms to the side and bring it

:58:25. > :58:26.forward, so there is a lot you can do. Lots of good tips there. Thank

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