02/08/2016

:00:07. > :00:14.A high court judge is set to rule today on whether a drug

:00:15. > :00:16.which prevents people being infected with HIV should be funded

:00:17. > :00:23.The daily pill, known as PrEP, has been described as a game changer

:00:24. > :00:28.by campaigners because it can reduce the risk of infection by 90%.

:00:29. > :00:30.We'll be talking to the charity which led the legal challenge

:00:31. > :00:34.against the NHS and someone who takes the drug.

:00:35. > :00:37.The race to succeed Nigel Farage as leader of Ukip is on.

:00:38. > :00:40.Four of the candidates who have thrown their hat into the ring

:00:41. > :00:43.will be telling us why they should be the one for the job.

:00:44. > :00:47.And Iranian men have been taking to social media dressed in hijabs,

:00:48. > :00:49.the Muslim headscarf, in a show of solidarity with women

:00:50. > :00:57.across the country who are forced to cover their heads in public.

:00:58. > :01:00.-- women across the country who oppose being forced to cover their

:01:01. > :01:02.heads in public. We talk to the woman

:01:03. > :01:07.driving the campaign. Welcome to the programme, we're live

:01:08. > :01:10.until 11am this morning. Also today, we will be hearing how

:01:11. > :01:13.the growing gap between wages and house prices is spreading

:01:14. > :01:16.the problem of people not being able Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:17. > :01:23.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and,

:01:24. > :01:25.if you text, you will be charged Levels of home ownership have

:01:26. > :01:40.fallen to their lowest levels since the 1980s,

:01:41. > :01:42.according to new analysis. The think tank, The Resolution

:01:43. > :01:44.Foundation, says homes are becoming increasingly unaffordable

:01:45. > :01:45.for struggling potential buyers and the biggest shift has

:01:46. > :01:55.been in major cities. Reasons -- regions in the north and

:01:56. > :01:58.the Midlands are becoming increasingly unaffordable. The

:01:59. > :01:59.biggest fall in home ownership has been in Manchester.

:02:00. > :02:01.Our business correspondent Victoria Fritz is in Manchester.

:02:02. > :02:03.Victoria, just explain what's been happening there?

:02:04. > :02:11.Good morning. The steepest fall has been a Greater Manchester, we have

:02:12. > :02:15.seen a 40% fall in home ownership over the last 13 years to just over

:02:16. > :02:20.half of all property, being owned by people living in their own homes.

:02:21. > :02:26.The rest is rented. This is a pretty typical property which has been on

:02:27. > :02:31.the market for about six weeks, on for about ?149,000, about average

:02:32. > :02:36.for the area. The man selling it is looking to sell this to buy other

:02:37. > :02:42.homes that he can rent to other people, because the rental yield is

:02:43. > :02:49.increasing here. It is a real issue, rising rents, rising prices. People

:02:50. > :02:52.talking about affordability as one of the key drivers for why we are

:02:53. > :02:55.seeing a fall in home ownership, but there are plenty of other reasons.

:02:56. > :02:57.After booming in the 1980s, home ownership has

:02:58. > :03:00.But now new analysis shows homeownership in England

:03:01. > :03:03.The Resolution Foundation says the number of people

:03:04. > :03:06.who own their home has dropped to 64%, down 7% from

:03:07. > :03:13.The biggest falls have been in Greater Manchester and outer

:03:14. > :03:16.London, although the West Midlands and West Yorkshire have also

:03:17. > :03:21.Northern Ireland has seen the most dramatic switch

:03:22. > :03:26.The think-tank which carried out this analysis argues

:03:27. > :03:30.that the housing crisis is no longer confined to London.

:03:31. > :03:33.They also warn it's threatening to reduce living standards

:03:34. > :03:38.In response, the Government says policies like Right to Buy

:03:39. > :03:41.and starter homes mean that more than a decade-long decline in home

:03:42. > :03:48.The Prime Minister Theresa May has acknowledged there's more to do,

:03:49. > :03:50.although some experts argue that the move towards renting

:03:51. > :03:54.could also be due to changing lifestyles

:03:55. > :04:10.That is certainly what the agents of the houses being sold on this street

:04:11. > :04:14.are saying, that the rental stock is improving, landlords are putting

:04:15. > :04:18.more into their properties because there are simply more on the market,

:04:19. > :04:23.they had to up their game. We will be talking to lots of experts, and

:04:24. > :04:26.we have been already, they say that about 30% of the entire rental

:04:27. > :04:31.market is professionals who are sitting on a fair amount of money

:04:32. > :04:35.and choosing not to buy, they are choosing to hold onto their money.

:04:36. > :04:40.Perhaps they work across the country, maybe seven days in London

:04:41. > :04:45.and Sundays up in the north. We are seeing a change in a cup of renters

:04:46. > :04:50.for lots of different reasons, not just affordability and bank lending

:04:51. > :04:54.but things around job security, and the fact that people are living in

:04:55. > :04:59.slightly better housing than was available 20 years ago. Keep your

:05:00. > :05:03.comments in, I know you will be tweeting, so keep them coming into

:05:04. > :05:07.Victoria Derbyshire programme. Thank you very much, Victoria. Let

:05:08. > :05:09.us know your thoughts and experiences of buying a property or

:05:10. > :05:11.not. Rebecca is in the BBC

:05:12. > :05:12.Newsroom with a summary The High Court will decide later

:05:13. > :05:17.whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been shown

:05:18. > :05:22.to reduce the risk of transmission by 90%.The idea is to give the daily

:05:23. > :05:25.drug to uninfected gay men as a preventative

:05:26. > :05:27.measure against the virus - a treatment campaigners

:05:28. > :05:44.call a game changer. That and a set -- NHS England argues

:05:45. > :05:48.it is not legally allowed to commission the drug, as HIV

:05:49. > :05:51.prevention services are the responsibility of local authorities.

:05:52. > :05:54.The once-a-day pill would cost ?400 per person each month.

:05:55. > :05:57.And Joanna will be speaking to the National Aids Trust and a man

:05:58. > :06:00.who has been taking the drug as part of a trial - that's coming up

:06:01. > :06:09.A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death of a baby

:06:10. > :06:12.embossed over the weekend. The three-month-old boy was treated at

:06:13. > :06:19.Bristol Children's Hospital, where he died on Sunday evening. Hannah

:06:20. > :06:22.Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alister Walker from Gloucester, will appear

:06:23. > :06:27.at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later charged with child McGregor --

:06:28. > :06:28.child neglect. The police investigation into the baby's death

:06:29. > :06:30.continues. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

:06:31. > :06:34.to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

:06:35. > :06:37.that's ?143,000 pounds a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

:06:38. > :06:39.Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

:06:40. > :06:40.presenters or executives It also says there should be

:06:41. > :06:44.a separate Six O'Clock Our media correspondent

:06:45. > :06:49.David Sillito reports. The BBC's star names

:06:50. > :06:52.are part of daily life, but exactly how much

:06:53. > :06:55.are they all paid? Managers earning more than ?150,000

:06:56. > :06:58.have to reveal their salaries, but stars presenting

:06:59. > :07:02.the programmes don't. The current Government proposal

:07:03. > :07:05.is to publish details of anyone But MPs on the Media Select

:07:06. > :07:12.Committee want to go further, despite concern from the BBC that

:07:13. > :07:15.revealing staff salaries would be a poacher's charter, helping rivals

:07:16. > :07:22.to outbid the corporation. We have agents and people's

:07:23. > :07:25.representatives, I think they've got a good idea of how much

:07:26. > :07:27.people get paid. The thing is, the licence fee payers

:07:28. > :07:30.don't really understand how much Anyone earning more

:07:31. > :07:34.than the Prime Minister, as they would do in other public

:07:35. > :07:37.bodies, should have to disclose how We think that's the level

:07:38. > :07:40.of transparency licence MPs want to see changes to the news

:07:41. > :07:45.in Scotland, calling for a separate 6pm TV news that would be made

:07:46. > :07:47.in Scotland with a Scottish The BBC has been looking at the idea

:07:48. > :07:54.following concern that, following devolution,

:07:55. > :07:55.many so-called national stories There's also concern

:07:56. > :08:01.that Rona Fairhead, the head of the BBC Trust,

:08:02. > :08:05.is to chair the new board that will The Government said it made

:08:06. > :08:10.the offer to help MPs feel there should have been

:08:11. > :08:15.an open competition for the job. The funeral takes place

:08:16. > :08:20.in France later today of a priest killed a week ago

:08:21. > :08:24.in his church in Normandy. Father Jacques Hamel,

:08:25. > :08:27.who was aged 85, was killed by two French teenagers who pledged

:08:28. > :08:29.allegiance to the so-called The ceremony is due to take place

:08:30. > :08:36.in Rouen Cathedral. He will be buried afterwards

:08:37. > :08:40.in a private ceremony. Hundreds of people protested

:08:41. > :08:42.yesterday outside a branch of Byron They're angry at the company's role

:08:43. > :08:48.in a raid by immigration officers on staff who didn't have the right

:08:49. > :08:54.documents to stay in the country. 35 people were arrested

:08:55. > :08:57.in the operation. There were reports that a training

:08:58. > :09:00.event had been set up to lure workers to a location

:09:01. > :09:03.where they would be arrested. Byron has said it was

:09:04. > :09:07.complying with the law. A new law has come into effect

:09:08. > :09:11.in the American state of Texas that allows students to carry concealed

:09:12. > :09:15.guns on campuses. Students aged 21 or over

:09:16. > :09:18.who have a concealed handgun permit may take guns into classrooms,

:09:19. > :09:23.under the new law. Texas has now become one of eight US

:09:24. > :09:26.states that allows students to carry The Republican Presidential

:09:27. > :09:35.candidate Donald Trump has called his Democratic rival

:09:36. > :09:37.Hillary Clinton "the devil", in the face of continuing fire

:09:38. > :09:41.from within his own party. Speaking at a rally in a high school

:09:42. > :09:45.gym in Pennsylvania, Mr Trump attacked Bernie Sarnders

:09:46. > :09:47.for capitulating to Mrs Clinton in the Democratic race,

:09:48. > :09:49.saying he had done a deal If he would have just

:09:50. > :09:57.not done anything, just go home, go to sleep,

:09:58. > :10:00.relax, he would have been a hero. But he made a deal with the devil -

:10:01. > :10:03.she's the devil. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:10:04. > :10:17.News - more at 9:30am. Still to come - we will be talking

:10:18. > :10:22.to the charity leading a legal challenge against the NHS over

:10:23. > :10:25.the funding of a drug which prevents Do get in touch with us

:10:26. > :10:28.throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

:10:29. > :10:34.at the standard network rate. Now, let's get the sport with John

:10:35. > :10:36.Watson. And, John, it's all about

:10:37. > :10:49.the Olympic Games today? We're heading into the zone when we

:10:50. > :10:54.will be talking about nothing else? Only one thing on the sports agenda,

:10:55. > :10:55.all of the build-up to the start of the Rio Olympics, now just days

:10:56. > :10:56.away. After facing a possible

:10:57. > :10:58.ban from the Games, one of Britain's best medal hopes

:10:59. > :11:00.at the Rio Olympics, Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has been

:11:01. > :11:02.cleared to compete. Armitstead, who won silver

:11:03. > :11:04.in London four years ago, missed three drug tests -

:11:05. > :11:07.but one of those has been cleared by the Court of Arbitration

:11:08. > :11:10.for Sport after she proved anti doping officers had not tried

:11:11. > :11:14.hard enough to find her. In a statement Armitstead she has

:11:15. > :11:16."always been and will always So, Lizzie Armitstead is still among

:11:17. > :11:26.Team GB's medal hopes. But how many can we realistically

:11:27. > :11:30.expect to win in Rio? London 2012 was a spectacular Games,

:11:31. > :11:35.of course, with 65 podium finishes. But the target here is 48,

:11:36. > :11:38.which would beat the record for an overseas games set in Beijing

:11:39. > :11:53.eight years ago. We believe this is the most talented

:11:54. > :11:56.squad we've ever had, we've got 366 athletes, a big team. I don't want

:11:57. > :11:59.to single out one sport, that I spent a lot of time in swimming

:12:00. > :12:05.recently and they feel they are in the mix. It is a very confident

:12:06. > :12:09.squad, more than 47 will be a best ever for us, post-Beijing, anything

:12:10. > :12:14.north of 65 takes us into heaven at the history books. Is that probable?

:12:15. > :12:16.Probably not, but we are gunning for better than 47.

:12:17. > :12:18.Sweeney says there'll be a fairly small delegation of Team GB athletes

:12:19. > :12:21.marching at the opening ceremony on Friday, with most

:12:22. > :12:23.of the squad still up in the Belo Horizonte training camp,

:12:24. > :12:27.about an hour's flight away from Rio.

:12:28. > :12:33.It's been a brand new experience for many athletes -

:12:34. > :12:36.notably the Rugby 7s teams, with their sport making its

:12:37. > :12:39.The men's competition begins a week today,

:12:40. > :12:43.with the women getting started this Saturday.

:12:44. > :12:48.We're so excited. Obviously it is the first time any of us have ever

:12:49. > :12:52.been at an Olympic Games, we are trying to soak it up as much as

:12:53. > :12:57.possible but trying to retain focus on what we had to do. We are already

:12:58. > :13:01.in the holy -- holding camp a ransom of the swimmers, and the athletes

:13:02. > :13:03.arrived the other day. Household names are already around us, hugely

:13:04. > :13:05.inspiring. "Hard working and greedy" is how

:13:06. > :13:07.Kadeena Cox laughingly described herself, after being picked

:13:08. > :13:09.to represent Paralympics Cox is already a world champion

:13:10. > :13:13.in cycling and athletics - and next month she'll become

:13:14. > :13:15.the first competitor since 1992 to represent Great Britain

:13:16. > :13:29.in more than one sport. It's crazy and exciting, and I'm

:13:30. > :13:33.really looking forward to it. It's a challenge that I wanted to undertake

:13:34. > :13:37.from the beginning, and to finally be able to say that I am about to

:13:38. > :13:44.embark on it is super exciting, but crazy at the same time. I like to be

:13:45. > :13:51.cut Dean, I had a unique name, I live up to that. -- I like to be

:13:52. > :13:53.Kadeena. Concerns over pollution

:13:54. > :13:55.and construction remain in Rio. Team GB's sailors are preparing

:13:56. > :13:58.to compete in some of the most polluted waters around

:13:59. > :14:04.the city in Gunabara Bay. And that's if they can

:14:05. > :14:06.even get to the water after a boat ramp at the sailing

:14:07. > :14:09.venue collapsed, raising further One thing that is holding strong

:14:10. > :14:13.is this Lego model of Rio. It took a year and almost a million

:14:14. > :14:16.pieces to put together the 25 scenes, including the Olympic rings,

:14:17. > :14:29.the stadiums and other At least something has been

:14:30. > :14:34.delivered on time, not that that is much used to the athletes in Rio!

:14:35. > :14:36.But it is pretty to look at. Thank you.

:14:37. > :14:39.The High Court is due to rule this morning on whether the NHS

:14:40. > :14:42.in England should have to fund a drug that can help

:14:43. > :14:46.The treatment called PrEP has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV

:14:47. > :14:51.But the NHS has argued it is not its responsibility to fund

:14:52. > :14:56.the drug, that local authorities should pay for it.

:14:57. > :14:58.PrEP is used in several other countries to help

:14:59. > :15:02.Here's a look at what PrEP is in a little more detail.

:15:03. > :15:04.It stands for pre-exposure prophylaxis.

:15:05. > :15:07.It's a daily pill taken to reduce the risk of getting HIV.

:15:08. > :15:10.The drug is intended for people who are at high risk

:15:11. > :15:12.of contracting the virus - for example, someone

:15:13. > :15:18.who is in a relationship with a partner who is HIV-positive.

:15:19. > :15:22.There are around 100,000 people living in the UK with HIV.

:15:23. > :15:25.If taken correctly, PrEP is almost entirely effective

:15:26. > :15:34.A UK trial was set up to see how effective PREP would be

:15:35. > :15:38.in preventing HIV transmission among gay men.

:15:39. > :19:37.The study was a huge success and was actually brought to an early

:19:38. > :19:40.them for greater intimacy, only a minority of the sexually active

:19:41. > :19:43.population use condoms consistently 100% of the time. So if we want to

:19:44. > :19:45.see a change in rates of transmission, the game change that

:19:46. > :19:48.we need, we need to add to condom use, that is where PrEP comes in.

:19:49. > :19:50.You have been using PrEP for the last 2.5 years, what would you say

:19:51. > :19:54.are the benefits? Decision-making and taken control of my own sexual

:19:55. > :20:02.health. Perhaps because I was around as a child in the 80s when Aden was

:20:03. > :20:08.pitched does something quite sinister -- when aids was. There is

:20:09. > :20:12.here around sex, I came out quite late, I was probably afraid, quite

:20:13. > :20:17.irrationally, that just having sex would give me HIV. For me, I take

:20:18. > :20:22.this decision when I am brushing my teeth in the morning, to take that

:20:23. > :20:27.pill every day. The decision to use a condom, which is something I try

:20:28. > :20:31.to do, I know it is not perfect. That decision is often made in the

:20:32. > :20:36.heat of the moment at the wrong time, it is not the best

:20:37. > :20:41.circumstances at which to make a strategic decision about your sexual

:20:42. > :20:47.health. It can go wrong, all sorts of reasons. So this is me taking

:20:48. > :20:50.control about my sexual health, unilaterally, alone, without

:20:51. > :20:55.discussion with somebody else. Would you say this is as liberating for

:20:56. > :20:59.the gay men as the pill was for women in the 60 's? Not having been

:21:00. > :21:03.a woman in the 60 's, perhaps I am not qualified, but I would say it is

:21:04. > :21:09.very liberating for my own personal reasons. I know plenty of other gay

:21:10. > :21:15.men that I have spoken to about it feel the same way, it is not about

:21:16. > :21:21.being afraid of sex any more. We have accepted that sex is not about

:21:22. > :21:25.procreation. Gay sex has always been problematic, it carries with it a

:21:26. > :21:30.small risk but one that is quite corrosion as if it catches you. When

:21:31. > :21:36.you look at the risk, taking this drug has reduced transmission of

:21:37. > :21:44.HIV, the number of infections, by 86%, so there is still a 14% risk.

:21:45. > :21:48.Condoms are safer. Taken properly, it is almost 100% effective. It is

:21:49. > :21:53.all about the regime. There are all sorts of experiments around how you

:21:54. > :22:01.might want to take it. An event -based prescription. Taken every

:22:02. > :22:05.day, which I find very easy, with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

:22:06. > :22:11.Thursday, Friday on my tray sorter, in those circumstances is is

:22:12. > :22:12.virtually 100% effective. Telus more about the statistics. 86% is the

:22:13. > :22:29.figure put out there? Three people in the PrEP arm of the

:22:30. > :22:34.trial got HIV. When the study researchers looked in more detail at

:22:35. > :22:39.those three men, they found none of them are actually taking the PrEP at

:22:40. > :22:43.the time they got HIV. It was not that they were taking PrEP and it

:22:44. > :22:47.didn't work, it was that they were meant to be taking it that haven't

:22:48. > :22:54.been taking at the time they got HIV. It does not suggest there is a

:22:55. > :23:00.14% gap but it shows you need to take it as prescribed. If you do

:23:01. > :23:04.that, all the data shows it is more or less 100% effective. ?400 a month

:23:05. > :23:11.for the NHS. Who would get this? be cost-effective, we need to make

:23:12. > :23:19.sure it is targeted at people who are high risk. That is the first

:23:20. > :23:22.point. Define out. That is what the working group was developing,

:23:23. > :23:27.eligibility criteria, before the whole process was abandoned. For gay

:23:28. > :23:32.men, it would probably be the eligibility criteria developed was

:23:33. > :23:36.about having a recent instance of unprotected sex, likely to do it

:23:37. > :23:41.again. Having previously attended a sexual health clinic and having a

:23:42. > :23:46.negative HIV test. Public Health England says that is sufficient to

:23:47. > :23:57.identify a high risk group who would really benefit from PrEP. As I said

:23:58. > :24:00.previously, you do not need to prevent HIV transmission is to make

:24:01. > :24:05.PrEP cost-effective. In the first full year of PrEP, you might have

:24:06. > :24:17.4000 men. At the full cost prize, which would then come down, towards

:24:18. > :24:23.?40, because it would be generic. 4000 men on PrEP, you only need to

:24:24. > :24:32.stop 43 of them from getting HIV to pay for it self. We need to think

:24:33. > :24:36.about the greater cost of treating people if they get HIV. If it were

:24:37. > :24:43.widely available and did give protection for people with HIV and

:24:44. > :24:49.lead to less condom use, would it lead potentially to an increase in

:24:50. > :25:00.other STDs and cause other issues? Other STI 's occur through other

:25:01. > :25:04.forms of sex anyway. There was no statistical increase. What goes

:25:05. > :25:08.alongside this is regular visits to the clinic. That is good for all

:25:09. > :25:15.sorts of other reason. I do not see that as being a problem. The

:25:16. > :25:20.largest, most significant, risk in terms of cost of the NHS and in

:25:21. > :25:25.terms of effects on lifestyle is clearly HIV. Those other STI 's

:25:26. > :25:29.will, if they occur, be caught at those regular three monthly

:25:30. > :25:35.screenings I would continue to have. I have no fear of that. Looking at

:25:36. > :25:42.these statistics, you spoke earlier about your fears of the risks of HIV

:25:43. > :25:48.transmission before you came out. In London, one in eight sexual partners

:25:49. > :25:55.in someone's time would have HIV nationwide. The one in 26. When you

:25:56. > :26:02.look at a statistic like that it is easy to see the fear the risk. That

:26:03. > :26:05.is at the forefront of my mind, especially living in London, where

:26:06. > :26:13.the figure is so high. Statistically it is almost impossible. Of the men

:26:14. > :26:18.I meet and talk to, none of those have HIV. I believe 14% of them

:26:19. > :26:21.might not even know it. A sexual encounter even with someone I have

:26:22. > :26:26.had a long and meaningful conversation about when they were

:26:27. > :26:29.last checked and whether they practice safe sex, they may be

:26:30. > :26:35.carrying it and not knowing it. When the number is that high, one in 11

:26:36. > :26:45.in London, under the new counting regime, that is quite a frightening

:26:46. > :26:48.statistic for me. It may be the person I have taken in good faith as

:26:49. > :26:51.having had a test is carrying it unknowingly or has had sex with

:26:52. > :26:54.someone else who is carrying it unknowingly. It is not the single

:26:55. > :27:00.person I meet, it is all the people they have slept with. You would have

:27:01. > :27:09.to take PrEP for 75 years to cost it. People refusing to use condoms

:27:10. > :27:13.is not an excuse to force the NHS to pay ?10 million to ?20 million. De

:27:14. > :27:19.want to respond to that? The first one makes the point I was making. It

:27:20. > :27:24.is cost-effective. With regards to the second, I think we need to move

:27:25. > :27:29.away from this idea of people refusing to use a condom is as an

:27:30. > :27:35.irresponsible act. A lot of people use condom is a lot of the time. In

:27:36. > :27:40.the real world, it is not 100%. People wanting is a profoundly

:27:41. > :27:44.responsible act about your sexual health and sexual health of your

:27:45. > :27:53.partners. If people are concerned about the money, let's boil it down

:27:54. > :27:56.to the economic argument to make the point again that if you provide PrEP

:27:57. > :28:02.to those at high risk of HIV, you are saving the NHS money. If we can

:28:03. > :28:07.start to get down the number of transmissions, which we are failing

:28:08. > :28:11.to do, by adding PrEP to our prevention armoury, will be saving

:28:12. > :28:16.money in the long term. If you win today, that is what it will boil

:28:17. > :28:23.down to, isn't it? It would have to go through the usual scrutiny. If we

:28:24. > :28:26.win this morning, what happens is the NHS decision-making process gets

:28:27. > :28:30.kick-started again that they will think very carefully about all of

:28:31. > :28:35.the effectiveness, public health, and cost effectiveness argument is

:28:36. > :28:40.that we are all concerned about. Lorenzo has tweeted, why should the

:28:41. > :28:45.NHS fund the drug when they cannot find other life-saving drugs for

:28:46. > :28:51.treatment of cancer, etc? I do not think it is a trade-off. With finite

:28:52. > :28:55.budgets, how do you choose? Life-saving treatment for cancer or

:28:56. > :29:01.this? We should pay for life-saving treatment for cancer and we should

:29:02. > :29:05.pay for prevention. As long as we refuse to do prevention, and only

:29:06. > :29:10.fund treatment, we are never going to have enough money for treatment,

:29:11. > :29:15.including four life-saving cancer drugs. This is about protecting the

:29:16. > :29:19.NHS budget by strategic investment to improve our response to the HIV

:29:20. > :29:25.epidemic and reduce the number of people who need lifelong HIV

:29:26. > :29:33.treatment. That will free up money, treatment for cancer, and all other

:29:34. > :29:37.drugs as well. If it is not decided in the end the NHS funds and the NHS

:29:38. > :29:41.is arguing it should not be funding this because of legal

:29:42. > :29:48.responsibilities, what will you do? You have been getting as part of a

:29:49. > :29:55.trial. I have about a month's I left. I can then go into the world

:29:56. > :30:00.wide web and find it for myself from online websites. I can import it for

:30:01. > :30:05.personal use, three months use, so I can get 90 pills for about ?45 a

:30:06. > :30:10.bottle with all the risks that come from that. Do I know that the

:30:11. > :30:14.company supplying it, do I know who has made it? Has it been quality

:30:15. > :30:21.checked? Is it the real thing, that is what I will have to do,

:30:22. > :30:24.stretching to ?43 a month will give me peace of mind. A lot of people

:30:25. > :30:27.who cannot stretch to that ?43 a month or think the risk is too high,

:30:28. > :30:31.because they do not know what they will be taking.

:30:32. > :30:37.It is so much cheaper to buy privately because it is not the

:30:38. > :30:42.patent and version? If you buy online from overseas you are buying

:30:43. > :30:47.from generic companies, where the cost is cheaper. A couple more

:30:48. > :30:53.tweets, Harry has said, it is absurd. If this disease affected

:30:54. > :30:57.mostly elderly people, the NHS would fund it immediately. Callum says if

:30:58. > :31:02.you think the NHS can't afford PrEP, just consider how much it costs to

:31:03. > :31:06.treat and care for an HIV patient for life. Thank you for coming in,

:31:07. > :31:08.the ruling is expected at around 10:30am, we will have that when it

:31:09. > :31:10.comes do. Thank you. We did invite NHS England to be part

:31:11. > :31:13.of our discussion this morning, but they said that they would only

:31:14. > :31:16.respond once the judgement is delivered, which we expect

:31:17. > :31:18.to happen at around The desperate decision facing

:31:19. > :31:22.hundreds of thousands of people trapped in the Syrian

:31:23. > :31:25.city of Aleppo. Stay and face starvation

:31:26. > :31:27.and airstrikes, or leave We speak to people from

:31:28. > :31:32.within the besieged city. And the Iranian men using photos

:31:33. > :31:35.of themselves in headscarves to protest against a law that forces

:31:36. > :31:37.women to cover their Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom

:31:38. > :32:02.with a summary of today's news. Levels of home ownership have fallen

:32:03. > :32:07.to their lowest level since the 1980s, according to new analysis.

:32:08. > :32:11.The housing crisis in London has now spread, according to a think tank,

:32:12. > :32:13.with regions in the north and the Midlands becoming increasingly

:32:14. > :32:14.unaffordable. The biggest fall in home ownership has been in

:32:15. > :32:16.Manchester. The High Court will decide later

:32:17. > :32:19.whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been shown

:32:20. > :32:24.to reduce the risk of transmission The idea is to give the daily

:32:25. > :32:28.drug to uninfected gay men as a preventative

:32:29. > :32:30.measure against the virus - a treatment campaigners

:32:31. > :32:35.call a game changer. NHS England argues

:32:36. > :32:36.it is not legally allowed to commission the drug,

:32:37. > :32:38.as HIV prevention services are the responsibility

:32:39. > :32:50.of local authorities. Nick Perry has been taking PrEP as

:32:51. > :32:55.part of a drugs trial called Proud, and described the benefits.

:32:56. > :32:59.Certainly I feel it is very liberating, for my own personal

:33:00. > :33:04.reasons. I know plenty of other gay men that I have spoken to about it

:33:05. > :33:09.appealed the same way. This is about not being afraid of sex any more. --

:33:10. > :33:12.I have spoken to about it feel the same way.

:33:13. > :33:15.A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death

:33:16. > :33:17.of a baby in Gloucester over the weekend.

:33:18. > :33:19.The three-month-old boy was treated at Bristol Children's Hospital,

:33:20. > :33:22.Hannah Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester,

:33:23. > :33:24.will appear at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later

:33:25. > :33:29.The police investigation into the baby's death continues.

:33:30. > :33:33.A group of MPs is calling on the BBC to disclose which of its stars earn

:33:34. > :33:38.more than the Prime Minister - that's ?143,000 pounds a year.

:33:39. > :33:40.The Culture, Media and Sport Committee says there's no good

:33:41. > :33:42.reason for performers, presenters or executives

:33:43. > :33:46.It also says there should be a separate Six O'Clock

:33:47. > :33:57.Our media correspondent David Sillito reports.

:33:58. > :34:03.The funeral takes place in France later today

:34:04. > :34:06.of a priest killed a week ago in his church in Normandy.

:34:07. > :34:08.Father Jacques Hamel, who was aged 85, was killed by two

:34:09. > :34:10.French teenagers who pledged allegiance to the so-called

:34:11. > :34:14.The ceremony is due to take place in Rouen Cathedral.

:34:15. > :34:26.He will be buried afterwards in a private ceremony.

:34:27. > :34:28.The Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump has

:34:29. > :34:30.called his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton "the devil",

:34:31. > :34:32.in the face of continuing fire from within his own party.

:34:33. > :34:35.Speaking at a rally in a high school gym in Pennsylvania,

:34:36. > :34:37.The Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump has

:34:38. > :34:39.Mr Trump attacked Bernie Sarnders for capitulating to Mrs Clinton

:34:40. > :34:41.in the Democratic race, saying he had done a deal

:34:42. > :34:45.If he would have just not done anything, just

:34:46. > :34:48.go home, go to sleep, relax, he would have been a hero.

:34:49. > :34:50.But he made a deal with the devil - she's the devil.

:34:51. > :34:58.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:34:59. > :35:07.Let's catch up with the sports headlines now, with John Watson.

:35:08. > :35:13.After facing a ban from the Olympics, cyclist Lizzie Armitstead

:35:14. > :35:16.After missing three drug tests, which would have led

:35:17. > :35:19.to a suspension from the games, Armitstead proved to the Court

:35:20. > :35:21.of Arbitration for Sport that one of those missed tests,

:35:22. > :35:23.was down to anti-doping officials failing to locate her whilst

:35:24. > :35:26.she stayed at a hotel in Sweden during a competition.

:35:27. > :35:28.There are ongoing concerns over pollution ahead

:35:29. > :35:32.of the start of the Olympics, just days away.

:35:33. > :35:34.Ahtletes have been warned to keep their mouths closed

:35:35. > :35:40.when they compete in the polluted waters in Rio.

:35:41. > :35:41.And Warwickshire all-rounder Chris Woakes says it's

:35:42. > :35:44.been a "surreal" summer, as he prepares to play in his first

:35:45. > :35:47.Test match at his home ground of Edgbaston.

:35:48. > :35:49.Woakes has been one of the stand-out performers with bat

:35:50. > :35:53.England's third Test against Pakistan starts tomorrow,

:35:54. > :36:12.That is all the sport for now, more later. Wherever you? Hello.

:36:13. > :36:15.A major rebel offensive is underway in Aleppo in retaliation

:36:16. > :36:25.President Assad's troops have set a full supply routes into rebel held

:36:26. > :36:34.areas, where the UN estimates 300,000 civilians are trapped. Food

:36:35. > :36:46.supplies are expected to run out in a couple of weeks.

:36:47. > :36:49.Let's get the latest from our correspondent in Beirut. What are

:36:50. > :36:54.you hearing about the situation on the ground, how many people are

:36:55. > :36:57.taking the decision to leave Aleppo? This is the worst escalation of

:36:58. > :37:01.violence we have seen in the city in recent months. A major offensive has

:37:02. > :37:06.been lodged by rebel fighters from the south-west of the city, with an

:37:07. > :37:11.aim to break through Government held areas so they can break the siege of

:37:12. > :37:17.rebel held parts of the city in the east. These are areas that the

:37:18. > :37:21.regime said it had cut off oil supplies to last week. Rebel

:37:22. > :37:25.fighters say they have made quick advances unbearably two kilometres

:37:26. > :37:29.away from achieving their goal -- that the regime said it had cut off

:37:30. > :37:36.all supplies to. The Syrian government has denied this claim, as

:37:37. > :37:40.well as Russia, which supports the rear in this fight. As far as the

:37:41. > :37:45.humanitarian situation, about a quarter of a million people are

:37:46. > :37:48.there. The UN warned on Friday that food stocks would only last for

:37:49. > :37:52.three weeks. As far as the humanitarian corridors are

:37:53. > :37:56.concerned, Russia said that Syrian forces opened these up over Friday

:37:57. > :38:01.and Saturday and more than 160 civilians had come out of those

:38:02. > :38:07.parts of the city. It is a claim that opposition activists denied.

:38:08. > :38:12.They said this is all a lie and nobody has come out of those parts

:38:13. > :38:18.of the city. Just describe the geography a bit more. This rebel

:38:19. > :38:25.held part of the city, what is the picture elsewhere around Aleppo? As

:38:26. > :38:31.far as Aleppo is concerned, very broadly speaking, if we had to

:38:32. > :38:35.discuss how it is divided, the western part of the city is

:38:36. > :38:40.controlled by the Government, there is a party to the east controlled by

:38:41. > :38:45.the rebels, this part has been and circled, this is where the UN

:38:46. > :38:51.estimates there are a quarter of a million people living there. While

:38:52. > :38:55.the violence has certainly intensified, there is violence

:38:56. > :38:59.taking place in other parts of Syria as well. Yesterday a Russian

:39:00. > :39:11.helicopter was brought down over the area of a glib, this is a province

:39:12. > :39:15.to the south-west of Aleppo. -- the area of Idlib. In the south, nine

:39:16. > :39:19.civilians lost their lives in an attack on a hospital. Not the first

:39:20. > :39:25.attack on a hospital, there have been many. The medics and the aid

:39:26. > :39:29.agencies say they believe medical facilities are being directly

:39:30. > :39:36.targeted. What sort of figures are there about the number of times

:39:37. > :39:42.hospitals have been directly head? It is very hard to find an overall

:39:43. > :39:49.estimate. -- directly head. In the past week, on Friday in addition to

:39:50. > :39:52.this hospital we had a maternity hospital in the Idlib area, the

:39:53. > :39:58.biggest maternity hospital operating there, supported by the charity

:39:59. > :40:02.children macro, they say two civilians were killed -- supported

:40:03. > :40:07.by the charity Save The Children. The UN says that four hospitals and

:40:08. > :40:14.one blood bank have been destroyed in the rebel held area. Peace talks,

:40:15. > :40:19.there have been talks about them possibly getting under way sometime

:40:20. > :40:22.this month. What is the situation, what are the hopes for the talks

:40:23. > :40:32.when the situation on the ground is as described? Over the weekend, we

:40:33. > :40:38.had the UN Deputy special envoy to Syria visiting Damascus and speaking

:40:39. > :40:44.to members of the Syrian Government, that was to discuss the process of

:40:45. > :40:49.political transition, which would be imported to resume peace talks

:40:50. > :40:54.between the Syrian Government as well and the opposition activists.

:40:55. > :40:58.The UN has called for a US/ Russia deal to try to support these talks.

:40:59. > :41:08.The big sticking point is the presidency of Basha Al Asad. While

:41:09. > :41:14.Russia supported, the UN wants him to step down. In a situation with

:41:15. > :41:19.escalating violence, at the moment it seems to be intensifying in

:41:20. > :41:23.Aleppo, certainly the target that they had of resuming peace talks or

:41:24. > :41:31.resuming the process from the 1st of August, that has been missed. Thank

:41:32. > :41:36.you very much. Let's go to Mohammad Edel, who joins us via Skype from

:41:37. > :41:42.Aleppo. He has lived there all his life and is married with a baby on

:41:43. > :41:47.the way. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. What is

:41:48. > :42:01.happening with the rebel offensive in the rebel held part of the city?

:42:02. > :42:18.AUDIO BREAKS UP. As you know, more than a quarter of a million are

:42:19. > :42:29.besieged here. To stay alive, there is no fuel at all. No vegetables, no

:42:30. > :42:36.fruit. No way of life at all. People are about to have, maybe two or

:42:37. > :42:49.three weeks ago, to suffer from starvation or hunger. Can you hear

:42:50. > :42:56.me? I am listening. Why stay? The Syrian and Russian aeroplanes are

:42:57. > :43:03.always in the sky of Aleppo. People here are always calling on the

:43:04. > :43:08.international community to save ourselves, but they always give deaf

:43:09. > :43:18.ears and blind eyes to our calls. Is it safe to go out? Do you actually

:43:19. > :43:24.go out? I like to stay here in my own home, in my own homeland. I have

:43:25. > :43:31.grown up in this place in the free Syria, I don't want to leave my

:43:32. > :43:36.home. If I went out, it means I will be kicked out of my home, and I want

:43:37. > :43:41.to stay in my home even if I die. I mentioned that you have a baby on

:43:42. > :43:45.the way. What other medical facilities going to be when your

:43:46. > :43:51.partner goes into labour at once that baby is born? -- what are the

:43:52. > :43:59.medical facilities? Aleppo is besieged right now. Depending on

:44:00. > :44:08.what we have had before this siege -- (INAUDIBLE)

:44:09. > :44:17.. I don't know, that it is our land, very important. We have to stay in

:44:18. > :44:22.it, not leave it. It is land. -- it is our land. We appreciate you

:44:23. > :44:26.talking to us, Mohammad Edel. Apologies for the quality of the

:44:27. > :44:30.Skype line, I am sure you can understand why that is. Mohammad

:44:31. > :44:35.Edel... Talking to us from Aleppo. Should the BBC have to named the TV

:44:36. > :44:39.and radio stars who earn more than the Prime Minister? A group of MPs

:44:40. > :44:44.think so. They are putting pressure on all presenters to -- who earn

:44:45. > :44:48.more than ?143,000 a year to be identified.

:44:49. > :44:50.Since the Islamic revolution of 1979, it's been compulsory

:44:51. > :44:53.for women in Iran to wear the hijab - a law strictly enforced

:44:54. > :44:56.Recently, campaigners have been using social media to protest

:44:57. > :44:58.by defiantly posting photos of themselves

:44:59. > :45:02.Now men are joining in to show solidarity with their female

:45:03. > :45:05.relatives by posting pictures of themselves wearing hijabs.

:45:06. > :45:08.With me now is campaigner Masih Alinejad an Iranian activist

:45:09. > :45:12.based in New York who started the hashtag #meninhijab,

:45:13. > :45:19.and Omid Memarian, an Iranian journalist and campaigner.

:45:20. > :45:36.You actually started that men in hijab hash tag. Firstly, I am a

:45:37. > :45:46.woman. I have been suffering all my life. Both wear a compulsory hijab.

:45:47. > :45:55.I was told your hijab is a sign of your men relatives on. Presently,

:45:56. > :46:00.the Foreign Minister of Iran went to France and visited a female

:46:01. > :46:03.politician. We have been working on my freedom campaign for more than

:46:04. > :46:10.three years and inviting female politicians to challenge when they

:46:11. > :46:17.go and visit Iraq. One of the politicians in France challenged the

:46:18. > :46:23.compulsory hijab wearing. The Foreign Minister of Iran's response

:46:24. > :46:29.was, none of the people who visited Iran had a problem with compulsory

:46:30. > :46:34.hijab. That is part of our culture. Women respect the culture of Iran

:46:35. > :46:40.and do not have any problem. I know it is not a good thing but because

:46:41. > :46:46.we have been forced and photo shopped, in our life in Iran, I

:46:47. > :46:53.asked, how do you feel when you see a compulsory hijab on you? You feel

:46:54. > :47:01.insulted and estranged. This is how we women of Iran field. A lot of men

:47:02. > :47:07.has started to send in their own pictures to show their solidarity

:47:08. > :47:11.and support Iranians women. It is obviously giving a different

:47:12. > :47:16.perspective to men of how it feels to be wearing the hijab. I do not

:47:17. > :47:21.know if you have ever put one on foot or you are a journalist

:47:22. > :47:26.covering this, as it unfolds, and seeing the men who are putting on

:47:27. > :47:33.the hijab. What is your perspective on it? I think it is a very

:47:34. > :47:41.interesting campaign. It shows that what the Government officials are

:47:42. > :47:48.saying, the hijab is not that women choose to wear -- some women choose

:47:49. > :47:55.to wear hijab. There are many women inside Iran that is not their

:47:56. > :48:00.choice. They have not chosen to wear a hijab. Such online campaigns show

:48:01. > :48:04.the full nature of wearing a hijab inside the country and the hypocrisy

:48:05. > :48:11.of the Iranian officials, trying to basically say that this is something

:48:12. > :48:16.that people have chosen, and it is not. Do you think suggesting men try

:48:17. > :48:26.them on and see how it feels will make a difference? I think that is

:48:27. > :48:37.interesting. Once people see men in a hijab, they feel uncomfortable.

:48:38. > :48:42.That discomfort shows the nature of -- the forced nature of the hijab

:48:43. > :48:52.for women who have not chosen to do so. For men, for those who feel

:48:53. > :49:00.uncomfortable, and feel it is not natural, but is basically the core

:49:01. > :49:08.target of the campaign. This campaign and campaign similar to

:49:09. > :49:18.this will stop the hijab, in Iran, is not something that everybody

:49:19. > :49:22.agrees to. That is the powerful message it sends to society. Many

:49:23. > :49:27.women inside the country. Even though they have to wear a hijab in

:49:28. > :49:36.public, it is not something they have chosen. It is against their

:49:37. > :49:47.rights. What were you trying to say? It is a good question, whether they

:49:48. > :49:51.can feel it. For many men in Iran, the existence of women, they have

:49:52. > :50:00.been educated that way. It is a casual link, or a sign of an honour

:50:01. > :50:04.for family. For many men, when they see as in compulsory hijab every

:50:05. > :50:12.day, they got used to seeing us like this. They think it is normal. For

:50:13. > :50:17.many women in Iran, I have to say that all the women in my family,

:50:18. > :50:24.they wear a hijab. I am not against them. I'm talking about freedom of

:50:25. > :50:28.choice. For many women in Iran, the compulsory hijab is a sign of losing

:50:29. > :50:39.your dignity. It means that you have to go out every day with fake

:50:40. > :50:45.identity. We see that as an insult. Men got used to seeing us in our

:50:46. > :50:48.compulsory hijab. They understand how we are freeing. Your campaigns

:50:49. > :50:52.have had huge amount of attention and have got people talking. The

:50:53. > :50:57.pictures we are seeing coming out of Iran of people taking off the hijab

:50:58. > :51:02.or men putting it on, it is a snapshot. It is just a moment when a

:51:03. > :51:06.picture is taken and then normal service, effectively, resumes. Do

:51:07. > :51:16.you expect this really to make a difference in the end in Iran? I am

:51:17. > :51:19.hopeful. As I said, we can not overthrow the regime overnight. What

:51:20. > :51:26.you can do with the thought of the idea. Those people who still think

:51:27. > :51:32.they own women and forcing women to wear a hijab, it is a sign of

:51:33. > :51:37.honour. You have to make it work. Change will not come overnight. We

:51:38. > :51:43.have to create is strong debate in society and talk to those people who

:51:44. > :51:50.believe that women, it is like candy. If you don't cover yourself,

:51:51. > :51:56.I'm telling you because there are a lot of people in Iran. Comparing

:51:57. > :52:00.half of the population as a candy, or spoil food, and saying if you do

:52:01. > :52:08.not cover yourself, it is like chocolate. You will get spoilt. You

:52:09. > :52:14.have to create a debate and give a platform. It means that you empower

:52:15. > :52:18.those people who never had the chance to be heard inside Iran. If

:52:19. > :52:25.you turn on the TV in Iran, will you see is women in a hijab. Now,

:52:26. > :52:28.through social media, you will see the powerful voice and you will see

:52:29. > :52:33.the real face of Iran, which she never had the chance to see. When

:52:34. > :52:40.you empower people, you can have hope. The Government cannot force

:52:41. > :52:47.them, cannot deny them. When you see the official outside of Iran, they

:52:48. > :52:52.use freedom of expression and media outside of Iran, they deny these

:52:53. > :52:56.women. My job, as the pain, is this. Give voice to the voiceless people

:52:57. > :53:01.and I believe change comes when people know and are aware of their

:53:02. > :53:06.rights. The people who are taking these voters are people who are

:53:07. > :53:10.already there, in terms of the same views that are being spoken of. Do

:53:11. > :53:18.you believe it is being cut through beyond that? I think it is. In Iran,

:53:19. > :53:24.it is costly for people to publicly criticise the Government on policies

:53:25. > :53:35.they had been forcing for decades. In particular, it has become one of

:53:36. > :53:42.the elements of identity of the Islamic Republic. Without the hijab,

:53:43. > :53:49.we have a few things. The Islamic Republic, it is really costly for

:53:50. > :53:55.Iranians to challenge the Government on the hijab. When we have such

:53:56. > :53:59.campaigns online, on social media, I think people find a voice to show

:54:00. > :54:04.their objection to some of the policies that are not very popular

:54:05. > :54:12.but people cannot talk about it. We see men and women both objecting to

:54:13. > :54:18.such policies. I think this is a reflection of a very popular demand

:54:19. > :54:22.inside the country. Thank you both very much. We're glad to know what

:54:23. > :54:24.you think about this, so do get in touch, in all the usual ways, with

:54:25. > :54:27.your thoughts on that. The men and women hoping

:54:28. > :54:31.to fill this man's shoes. We speak to four of the seven vying

:54:32. > :54:43.to replace Nigel Farage and become If you have any thoughts or

:54:44. > :54:45.questions about that, do let us know. The usual ways of getting in

:54:46. > :54:46.touch. A group of MPs is demanding

:54:47. > :54:49.that the BBC should publish the pay of all its stars who earn more

:54:50. > :54:52.than the Prime Minister's The Acting Chairman of the Commons

:54:53. > :54:55.Culture Committee, Damian Collins, says it's disengenuous for the BBC

:54:56. > :54:59.to claim confidentiality. The point - he says -

:55:00. > :55:02.is that all the salaries are paid Well, currently, the BBC reveals

:55:03. > :55:06.salaries of stars earning more than ?450,000 a year,

:55:07. > :55:11.and the details of its executives For more about this,

:55:12. > :55:17.let's talk to Neil Midgely - the Daily Telegraph's

:55:18. > :55:27.media commentator - As I said, the BBC has said it is

:55:28. > :55:34.happy to publish the salaries of stars over 450,000 but now MPs say

:55:35. > :55:40.it has to be over 140 3000. Why has the BBC set the bar so high first of

:55:41. > :55:45.all? ?450,000 is what the director-general of the BBC and.

:55:46. > :55:49.That is probably the reason for that particular figure. I think the BBC

:55:50. > :55:51.has offered to name the stars above that level. Not necessarily to say

:55:52. > :56:06.specifically how much they are paid, which is a

:56:07. > :56:09.different thing. At the moment, it is a legal minefield. It is a very

:56:10. > :56:11.difficult argument to call either way. There are data protection

:56:12. > :56:14.issues around the stars with a C, personal data. Also, talent

:56:15. > :56:19.contracts for Graham Norton and Gary Lineker come up for renewal every

:56:20. > :56:23.two or three years, unlike staff contracts for senior managers. Those

:56:24. > :56:27.confidentiality clauses have to be renegotiated each time. The stars do

:56:28. > :56:30.have an opportunity at that point if they are marketable and some deals

:56:31. > :56:36.once them to go to another broadcaster. The BBC would genuinely

:56:37. > :56:40.have great difficulty in implementing this new rule. Having

:56:41. > :56:46.said that, I think there should be transparency. 143,000 is as good a

:56:47. > :56:49.place to start as any, given that most licensed the players, I think,

:56:50. > :56:55.believe the Prime Minister is probably quite well paid and anyone

:56:56. > :56:59.getting more than that, on the public dining, should probably be

:57:00. > :57:03.transparent, and have their salaries published. It is possible that

:57:04. > :57:07.Graham Norton is the highest-paid public servant in the country. I

:57:08. > :57:13.think most licensed the players should say, yes, we should know how

:57:14. > :57:18.much we are paying him. -- license the players. Will the BBC fight it

:57:19. > :57:24.and the MPs force it? They will not force it. The committee is an

:57:25. > :57:29.influential body which backed the new BBC chairman, for example, every

:57:30. > :57:32.time some new is appointed. It does influential and well-prepared

:57:33. > :57:37.reports. The Government is in charge. The Government decides what

:57:38. > :57:41.the provisions are for the BBC's new charter, which needs to come into

:57:42. > :57:45.effect on the 1st of January. Have a change of government at the moment.

:57:46. > :57:48.With Hinkley Point, we have seen that Theresa May is very willing to

:57:49. > :57:52.take things which already appear to have been decided by the garment and

:57:53. > :57:59.reopen them. We have already had a white paper on the future of the

:58:00. > :58:01.BBC. -- by the Government. That would have turned into the next

:58:02. > :58:06.royal charter without much change that now we have a new Prime

:58:07. > :58:13.Minister, a new Culture Secretary. John Whittingdale is gone. It may be

:58:14. > :58:17.that the issue of talent pay, it might, again. Thank you for joining

:58:18. > :58:20.us. Let's get the latest

:58:21. > :58:30.weather update with Carol. Mixed fortunes with the weather

:58:31. > :58:39.today. Some things and shine, others rain. We have some cracking pictures

:58:40. > :58:43.to show you. This one from Bath, where it is raining in Cumbria is

:58:44. > :58:48.seeing some rain. We have some more rain across North Yorkshire. Quite a

:58:49. > :58:52.lot of rain across parts of England and Wales. Bat rain will continue to

:58:53. > :58:56.move northwards as we go through the course of today. It is the north of

:58:57. > :59:00.Scotland which will hang on to the sunshine for the longest period of

:59:01. > :59:03.time was up the area of low pressure is driving our weather. One front is

:59:04. > :59:11.going to be eased with another on its heels. In the middle of these

:59:12. > :59:13.fronts, it is muggy. A lot of dampness around and fairly cloudy.

:59:14. > :59:17.The satellite picture shows currently where there are breaks in

:59:18. > :59:22.the cloud and sunshine. Across Wales and parts of southern England, the

:59:23. > :59:26.rain is lighter. The first front is going across the South, across the

:59:27. > :59:32.tunnel islands and into the South East. The far north of Scotland is

:59:33. > :59:37.hanging onto the brightest skies. -- the channel islands. The rain across

:59:38. > :59:41.western Scotland but there is sunshine across the Highlands and

:59:42. > :59:46.most of the Grampian. The cloud will build through the course of the day.

:59:47. > :59:50.I was in Edinburgh, up to 18. In the north of England, ill be cloudy and

:59:51. > :59:59.dank with spot at the moment. Nothing more than that. The rain

:00:00. > :00:05.more moving -- be rain will move in. They'll be some breaks in the cloud.

:00:06. > :00:12.Where that happens, the temperatures will rise. Hill fog around in

:00:13. > :00:17.England. This evening and overnight, there goes the rain. If anything, it

:00:18. > :00:21.will rejuvenate. The tail end of it will come across southern England

:00:22. > :00:25.and the Channel Islands. We have rain coming in from the West. It is

:00:26. > :00:30.that area of low pressure getting closer to us. Tomorrow, what you

:00:31. > :00:37.will find, it will continue with ours. We have it moving steadily out

:00:38. > :00:41.towards the sea. You can see where we have the low pressure with the

:00:42. > :00:43.front moving across it. Heavy rain for Northern Ireland and Scotland

:00:44. > :00:50.which will turn more showery during the day. Across England and Wales,

:00:51. > :00:56.dry with sunshine. Possibly showers across Wales. The main feature

:00:57. > :01:00.tomorrow will be the wind. We could see gales across the Irish Sea,

:01:01. > :01:05.particularly off the coasts of Wales. If you are on holiday

:01:06. > :01:09.thinking about taking out a small vessel, a small boat can do bear

:01:10. > :01:15.that in mind. It could be problematic. Equally if you are

:01:16. > :01:21.camping. Inland, we're looking at just of wind up to 40 miles an hour.

:01:22. > :01:22.-- gusts of wind. Something to bear in mind if you're camping.

:01:23. > :01:26.Welcome to the programme, if you've just joined us.

:01:27. > :01:34.Evidence that the housing crisis has spread from London to the north -

:01:35. > :01:37.with people less likely to own their own home now

:01:38. > :01:43.We speak to a father of three desperate to buy his own home.

:01:44. > :01:49.It can prevent the risk of HIV by 90% but who should pay for it?

:01:50. > :01:56.A high court judge will decide whether the NHS or your local

:01:57. > :01:59.council should fund the daily pill, known as PrEP, that's been described

:02:00. > :02:09.They say funding it now will save money in the long run. Improve

:02:10. > :02:15.response to the HIV epidemic and reduce the number of people who need

:02:16. > :02:16.lifelong HIV treatment, up money from HIV treatment for treatment for

:02:17. > :02:33.cancer and all other drugs. And this is about one of hip-hop's

:02:34. > :02:37.stars, it means he could be about to release his much anticipated second

:02:38. > :02:43.album. Some people are literally glued to that, trying to see if it

:02:44. > :02:49.means anything significant. We will tell you all about it.

:02:50. > :02:52.Here's Rebecca in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:02:53. > :02:56.The number of people who own their own home has slumped

:02:57. > :02:58.to their lowest levels since the 1980s.

:02:59. > :03:01.Research from the think-tank the Resolution Foundation says

:03:02. > :03:03.regions in the north and the Midlands becoming

:03:04. > :03:08.Along with London and the south-east.

:03:09. > :03:12.The biggest fall in home ownership has been in Manchester.

:03:13. > :03:16.It has fallen almost 15% since a peak in 2003.

:03:17. > :03:19.Our business correspondent Victoria Fritz has the details

:03:20. > :03:21.After booming in the 1980s, home ownership has

:03:22. > :03:24.But now new analysis shows homeownership in England

:03:25. > :03:30.The Resolution Foundation says the number of people

:03:31. > :03:33.who own their home has dropped to 64%, down 7% from

:03:34. > :03:42.The biggest falls have been in Greater Manchester and outer

:03:43. > :03:45.London, although the West Midlands and West Yorkshire have also

:03:46. > :03:50.Northern Ireland has seen the most dramatic switch

:03:51. > :03:55.The think-tank which carried out this analysis argues

:03:56. > :04:00.that the housing crisis is no longer confined to London.

:04:01. > :04:02.They also warn it's threatening to reduce living standards

:04:03. > :04:08.In response, the Government says policies like Right to Buy

:04:09. > :04:11.and starter homes mean that more than a decade-long decline in home

:04:12. > :04:17.The Prime Minister Theresa May has acknowledged there's more to do,

:04:18. > :04:20.although some experts argue that the move towards renting

:04:21. > :04:23.could also be due to changing lifestyles

:04:24. > :04:31.The High Court will decide later whether the NHS in England should

:04:32. > :04:43.It's called PrEP and has been shown to reduce the risk of transmission

:04:44. > :04:59.-- by more than 80%. It costs around ?400 per person. A charity launched

:05:00. > :05:02.an appeal after the NHS decided not to pay for it.

:05:03. > :05:05.Nick Perry has been taking PrEP as part of a drugs

:05:06. > :05:07.trial called Proud - he described the benefits

:05:08. > :05:13.I feel it is liberating for my own personal reasons, and I know that

:05:14. > :05:17.plenty of other gay men that I have spoken to about it feel the same

:05:18. > :05:18.way, it is about not being afraid of sex any more.

:05:19. > :05:21.A man and woman have been charged in connection with the death

:05:22. > :05:22.of a baby in Gloucester over the weekend.

:05:23. > :05:25.The three-month-old boy was treated at Bristol Children's Hospital,

:05:26. > :05:28.Hannah Henry, 20, and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester,

:05:29. > :05:30.will appear at Cheltenham Magistrates' Court later

:05:31. > :05:44.The police investigation into the baby's death continues.

:05:45. > :05:50.The UK's new European Commissioner will lead the EU's battle against

:05:51. > :05:55.terrorism and crime. Sir Julian King was offered the post this morning by

:05:56. > :05:56.commission President Jean-Claude Junker. The European Parliament must

:05:57. > :05:58.now approve the appointment. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

:05:59. > :06:02.to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

:06:03. > :06:04.that's ?143,000 a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

:06:05. > :06:07.Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

:06:08. > :06:08.presenters or executives It also says there should be

:06:09. > :06:13.a separate Six O'Clock Hundreds of people protested

:06:14. > :06:21.yesterday outside a branch They're angry at the company's role

:06:22. > :06:25.in a raid by immigration officers on staff who didn't have the right

:06:26. > :06:29.documents to stay in the country. 35 people were arrested

:06:30. > :06:32.in the operation. There were reports that a training

:06:33. > :06:35.event had been set up to lure workers to a location

:06:36. > :06:37.where they would be arrested. Byron has said it was

:06:38. > :06:49.complying with the law. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:06:50. > :06:58.News - more at 10:30am. Still to come, we will talk to some

:06:59. > :07:01.of the candidates vying to replace Nigel Farage as the leader of Ukip.

:07:02. > :07:11.What should the party focus on is the breakfast that matter as the

:07:12. > :07:12.Brexit vote has been won. He said that the party was like turkeys

:07:13. > :07:14.voting for Christmas! Do get in touch with us

:07:15. > :07:16.throughout the morning - If you text, you will be charged

:07:17. > :07:20.at the standard network rate. Now, John Watson has the sport -

:07:21. > :07:24.and good news for Lizzie Armistead, After facing a ban from

:07:25. > :07:29.the Olympics, one of Britain's best medal hopes at the Rio Olympics,

:07:30. > :07:31.cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has After missing three drug tests,

:07:32. > :07:35.Armitstead proved to the Court of Arbitration for Sport

:07:36. > :07:37.that on one occasion, anti-doping officers had not tried

:07:38. > :07:39.hard enough to find her. In a statement Armitstead she has

:07:40. > :07:42.always been and will always So, Lizzie Armitstead is still among

:07:43. > :07:45.Team GB's medal hopes. But how many can we realistically

:07:46. > :07:48.expect to win in Rio? London 2012 was a spectacular Games,

:07:49. > :07:52.of course, with 65 podium finishes. But the target here is 48,

:07:53. > :07:55.which would beat the record for an overseas games set in Beijing

:07:56. > :08:01.eight years ago. We believe this is the most talented

:08:02. > :08:03.squad we've ever had, we've got 366 athletes,

:08:04. > :08:08.a big team. I don't want to single out one

:08:09. > :08:11.sport, but I spent a lot of time in swimming recently and they feel

:08:12. > :08:14.they are in the mix. It is a very confident squad,

:08:15. > :08:17.more than 47 will be a best ever for us, post-Beijing,

:08:18. > :08:19.anything north of 65 takes us Probably not, but we are gunning

:08:20. > :08:30.for better than 47. Sweeney says there'll be a fairly

:08:31. > :08:32.small delegation of Team GB athletes marching at the opening ceremony

:08:33. > :08:35.on Friday, with most of the squad still up

:08:36. > :08:37.in the Belo Horizonte training camp, about an hour's

:08:38. > :08:42.flight away from Rio. It's been a brand new experience

:08:43. > :08:44.for many athletes - notably the Rugby 7s teams,

:08:45. > :08:46.with their sport making The men's competition

:08:47. > :08:51.begins a week today, with the women getting started this

:08:52. > :08:56.Saturday. Obviously it is the first time any

:08:57. > :09:01.of us have ever been at an Olympic Games,

:09:02. > :09:04.we are trying to soak it up as much as possible but trying to retain

:09:05. > :09:14.focus on what we had to do. We are already here in the holding

:09:15. > :09:20.camp, rants of the swimmers. The athletes arrived the other day.

:09:21. > :09:22.Household names are already around us, hugely inspiring.

:09:23. > :09:24."Hard working and greedy" is how Kadeena Cox laughingly described

:09:25. > :09:26.herself, after being picked to represent Paralympics

:09:27. > :09:30.Cox is already a world champion in cycling and athletics -

:09:31. > :09:32.and next month she'll become the first competitor since 1992

:09:33. > :09:41.to represent Great Britain in more than one sport.

:09:42. > :09:46.It's crazy and exciting, and I'm really looking forward to it. It is

:09:47. > :09:50.a challenge that I wanted to undertake from the beginning, to

:09:51. > :09:55.finally be able to say that I am about to embark on it is super

:09:56. > :10:01.exciting, crazy at the same time. I like to be Kadeena, Kadeena is

:10:02. > :10:05.unique, I have a unique name, so I live up to it. It is good to do

:10:06. > :10:07.something that not many have attempted to do and, hopefully, make

:10:08. > :10:09.some history. Concerns over pollution

:10:10. > :10:11.and construction remain in Rio. Team GB's sailors are preparing

:10:12. > :10:13.to compete in some of the most polluted waters around

:10:14. > :10:18.the city in Gunabara Bay. And that's if they can even get

:10:19. > :10:22.to the water after a boat ramp at the sailing venue collapsed,

:10:23. > :10:24.raising further questions One thing that is holding strong

:10:25. > :10:29.is this Lego model of Rio. It took a year and almost a million

:10:30. > :10:32.pieces to put together the 25 scenes, including the Olympic rings,

:10:33. > :10:57.the stadiums and other iconic Rio One thing that has been delivered on

:10:58. > :10:59.time ahead of the Rio cut games. -- Rio Games.

:11:00. > :11:01.That is all the sport for now, more later.

:11:02. > :11:03.Today we'll find out which candidates can stand

:11:04. > :11:05.as contenders for Ukip's leadership to replace Nigel Farage.

:11:06. > :11:06.The party's National Executive Committee will make

:11:07. > :11:09.the final decision - but the former leader has described

:11:10. > :11:12.the executive committee as amateurs and the lowest grade of people that

:11:13. > :11:15.He's urged candidates to poll the party membership

:11:16. > :11:18.The apparent frontrunner MEP Steven Woolfe missed the nominations

:11:19. > :11:21.deadline and is waiting to hear whether he can stand.

:11:22. > :11:25.Officially six candidates have declared their intention to stand.

:11:26. > :11:29.These are, as we just mentioned, Steven Woolfe, Lisa Duffy,

:11:30. > :11:38.Bill Etheridge, Jonathan Arnott, Philip Broughton and Liz Jones.

:11:39. > :11:46.We'll be speaking to some of those candidates in a moment.

:11:47. > :11:51.First our political correspondent Carole Walker joins us from

:11:52. > :11:56.Westminster. Is it clear whether or not Steven Woolfe will be able to

:11:57. > :12:00.stand? It is still very much in doubt. You have quite a line-up of

:12:01. > :12:05.the candidates, but not Steven Woolfe. He is probably the

:12:06. > :12:10.frontrunner, but he missed the deadline for getting his application

:12:11. > :12:14.in. He has blamed the Ukip technicalities, that the website

:12:15. > :12:18.simply was not working, he was trying to get his application

:12:19. > :12:24.through but it eventually landed about 17 minutes late. Since then,

:12:25. > :12:30.it has emerged that he forgot to mention a previous drink-driving

:12:31. > :12:34.conviction when he ran to be the Police and Crime Commissioner in

:12:35. > :12:37.Greater Manchester back in 2012. This offence had occurred ten years

:12:38. > :12:43.previously, he said he simply forgot about it, but that is a further

:12:44. > :12:46.cloud over his application, clearly. We have a panel of the National

:12:47. > :12:49.Executive Committee meeting today to look at all the applicants. They

:12:50. > :12:55.could decide whether or not Steven Woolfe will be on that list. But

:12:56. > :13:00.they could also decide that because there is such a row about all of

:13:01. > :13:03.this, it is better to put it back to the full National Executive

:13:04. > :13:06.Committee. But as you mentioned in the introduction, there is a huge

:13:07. > :13:11.amount of infighting behind-the-scenes. The outgoing

:13:12. > :13:16.leader, Nigel Farage, yesterday described the NEC as some of the

:13:17. > :13:19.lowest grade of people I've ever met. He described them as total

:13:20. > :13:23.amateurs who turn up for meetings in London with sandwiches in their

:13:24. > :13:33.rucksacks for meetings that go on for seven hours. I am not sure it is

:13:34. > :13:35.too serious a crime to have sandwiches in your rucksack, but

:13:36. > :13:37.there is clearly a huge amount of manoeuvring and infighting going on

:13:38. > :13:42.behind-the-scenes. Is that the worst of the offences, that is what I was

:13:43. > :13:46.just thinking. If Steven Woolfe does not get to stand, what about the

:13:47. > :13:52.others? Is there a standout favourite? I think that would put

:13:53. > :13:57.the field wide open. Les Jones is certainly not well known to the

:13:58. > :14:03.wider public. She was out and about on the radio talking about her track

:14:04. > :14:09.record -- Liz Jones is certainly not wandered to the wider public. Two

:14:10. > :14:14.MEPs are standing. Another councillor, Lisa Duffy, has the

:14:15. > :14:19.backing of quite a few senior figures in the party. They see her

:14:20. > :14:24.as somebody who would modernise the party, she is a councillor with a

:14:25. > :14:28.track record of working for Ukip in Cambridgeshire. I think the fields

:14:29. > :14:32.would be wide open. It is interesting that this is a party

:14:33. > :14:38.which, after all, garnered almost 4 million votes at the last general

:14:39. > :14:41.election, a party whose pressure certainly contributed to David

:14:42. > :14:46.Cameron calling the EU referendum which ultimately lost him his job,

:14:47. > :14:50.and there is now a field of people who are certainly not household

:14:51. > :14:55.names looking to take on the party and looking to what the party will

:14:56. > :15:00.stand for, what is its big motivation going to be now that the

:15:01. > :15:08.country has voted to leave the EU? When is the decision taken? The

:15:09. > :15:13.final decision, we get it later in September, September the 15th. We

:15:14. > :15:18.will get the final result. There is a full summer of campaigning and a

:15:19. > :15:21.chance for some of those lesser-known candidates to put

:15:22. > :15:24.themselves forward, make themselves known, get out and about around the

:15:25. > :15:29.country and make sure that the members of Ukip and the wider public

:15:30. > :15:32.get to know who they are. Thank you, Carole

:15:33. > :15:35.Now we can talk to four of those candidates who have said

:15:36. > :15:37.they are standing: Liz Jones the Deputy Chairman

:15:38. > :15:39.for the Lambeth branch of Ukip, Lisa Duffy, a district

:15:40. > :15:41.councillor on Huntingdon, Jonathan Arnott, the MEP

:15:42. > :15:43.for the North East, and Bill Etheridge, MEP

:15:44. > :15:56.Carole describes you all is not being household names, so if you

:15:57. > :16:03.would introduce yourselves to us, starting with you, Liz Introduce

:16:04. > :16:08.yourselves, tell us what you think Ukip is for, going forward? My

:16:09. > :16:13.neighbours Elizabeth Jones, I'm the deputy chairwoman of Ukip Lambeth,

:16:14. > :16:18.one of the most Europhile areas in the entire country. I am also on the

:16:19. > :16:22.NEC, the National Executive Committee, and I am a divorce lawyer

:16:23. > :16:27.of some 20 years standing based in London. I have worked in the private

:16:28. > :16:30.sector my entire life, I am not a professional politician. My deputy

:16:31. > :16:35.is councillor Lawrence Webb, the Ukip leader in the London Borough of

:16:36. > :16:41.Hague and he has a great deal of campaign experience behind him. We

:16:42. > :16:47.have contested 33 elections for Ukip and we have about 100,000 votes. My

:16:48. > :16:55.platform is one of opportunity and trade. Also, we have is to accept

:16:56. > :16:58.that the challenge for the new Ukip leader will have changed. Our

:16:59. > :17:04.primary motive for setting of Ukip was to leave the EU. Stage one of

:17:05. > :17:12.that has been passed. We have to pass onto stage two and get some MPs

:17:13. > :17:18.into Westminster. I wish I had started with a stopwatch. Lisa? I am

:17:19. > :17:22.Cancer Lisa Duffy, I have been parted Ukip for 12 years and I have

:17:23. > :17:27.been a huge part of the success where we have got to today. I built

:17:28. > :17:32.at the young independents, I have been their party director, I have

:17:33. > :17:42.built the team that managed the assessment centres. What is your

:17:43. > :17:46.vision? We do not need Nigel Farage the second. We need someone with a

:17:47. > :17:51.proven track record. I have done that through Westminster

:17:52. > :17:56.by-elections. What would Ukip stand for? We have a fully costed

:17:57. > :18:02.manifesto for 2015. We need to make sure we put some traction underneath

:18:03. > :18:08.that. Fell those policies and do not be afraid about talking about

:18:09. > :18:12.integration. It is important that the party continues on the strength

:18:13. > :18:17.it has that now is the time to show the electorate we can go to

:18:18. > :18:25.Westminster. I am Jonathan Arnott, a former maths teacher. I have spent

:18:26. > :18:29.six years with Ukip. I'm a member of the European Parliament for

:18:30. > :18:33.north-east England. My campaign is all about reaching out to be 13.6

:18:34. > :18:37.million people out there, who voted for Brexit, but did not vote Ukip at

:18:38. > :18:47.the last general election. We need to be the party that is never, ever,

:18:48. > :18:53.ever anti-immigrant. It is anti-controlled immigration. There

:18:54. > :18:57.may be some tweaks needed to our policies slightly. Actually, what we

:18:58. > :19:02.stand for, we need to get out there and communicate. We need to show our

:19:03. > :19:06.vision for what the UK could be like post-Brexit. Our equivalent perhaps

:19:07. > :19:10.of Reagan was Max shining city on a hill. That show what the UK can be

:19:11. > :19:15.like and use that as our way to build for the future and get Ukip

:19:16. > :19:22.the sea to need in Westminster, to make a difference for people in this

:19:23. > :19:27.country. My name is Bill Etheridge. I am a councillor in deadly. I am

:19:28. > :19:31.also an MEP for the West Midlands. I have seen politics domestically and

:19:32. > :19:35.in Europe. My whole platform for selection is combined with my

:19:36. > :19:40.running mate, Mike Bookham, the defence spokesman for Ukip. We are

:19:41. > :19:44.looking to reform the party to make this a more effective mechanism and

:19:45. > :19:48.declare war on cronyism within the party. After that we want to be a

:19:49. > :19:52.voice for the people against the establishment. We want to tackle the

:19:53. > :19:56.issues that get voided by everyday politicians and make a change in

:19:57. > :20:01.this country. Personal liberty and freedom are top of the list. Lisa,

:20:02. > :20:06.you talked about integration. Jonathan Parr me talked about not

:20:07. > :20:11.being anti-immigrant but anti-immigration. Tell us more about

:20:12. > :20:17.what you mean when you talk, Lisa Duffy, about having a vision for a

:20:18. > :20:22.modernised Britain. I will be launching as part of my campaign.

:20:23. > :20:28.What I want to talk about today is integration. We feel the UK is a

:20:29. > :20:34.fantastic place. As Jonathan said in the past, we need to get the great

:20:35. > :20:39.back into Great Britain. That is platitudes. What about specific

:20:40. > :20:42.policy? I will be launching properly with a full speech, either at the

:20:43. > :20:47.end of this week beginning of next week. What we have to think about is

:20:48. > :20:51.there are huge amounts of Muslim people, British Muslims, living in

:20:52. > :20:55.our country, who do not get full equality. When Jonathan talks about

:20:56. > :21:02.immigration, it is about having a fair immigration policy. Spell out

:21:03. > :21:06.what you mean by full equality? You must have a specific policy. If you

:21:07. > :21:10.think about young, Muslim women, they do not have the same rights. I

:21:11. > :21:15.worked with many of them when I was in Manchester. When I was working in

:21:16. > :21:19.Woking. These young ladies wanted to go out and follow western styles.

:21:20. > :21:23.They wanted to go out with boyfriends but they were being

:21:24. > :21:28.restricted. You have FGM and arranged marriages. We need to think

:21:29. > :21:34.about what being a British Muslim means in this day and age. On a full

:21:35. > :21:45.manifesto, we will be selling it. You have a policy on this. You want

:21:46. > :21:48.to ban the Burke, tell us why? I do not mind what people do for their

:21:49. > :21:54.religious values of their cultural values. We are in a security

:21:55. > :21:59.situation. If you are in a public place, you need to show your face

:22:00. > :22:04.and that means any face covering. That is part of Ukip policy already,

:22:05. > :22:07.having your face not covered in high security areas. That is the policy

:22:08. > :22:12.we have all been backing for the last few years. The way you have to

:22:13. > :22:16.look at this is simple. It is the motorcycle helmet test. If there is

:22:17. > :22:19.an area where you could not go someone wearing a motorcycle helmet,

:22:20. > :22:25.it is inappropriate for people to then be wearing this. If it is not

:22:26. > :22:29.secure, to be in a place where your face cannot be seen, that is a

:22:30. > :22:35.problem. I would not say you ban it simply for people walking down the

:22:36. > :22:40.street. That would be going too far. You are qualified and what you

:22:41. > :22:46.think. It is a security issue as far as I am concerned. That does not

:22:47. > :22:53.mean you ban it everywhere. How do you draw the line, someone walking

:22:54. > :22:56.down the street? If you look, for example, if you are going through

:22:57. > :23:06.airport security, you need to show your face. That does not sound the

:23:07. > :23:11.party policy you talking about. I am talking about high security areas. A

:23:12. > :23:15.blanket ban. My view is we have to take a delicate approach to this. We

:23:16. > :23:19.do not want to do anything which is counter-productive. We look at the

:23:20. > :23:23.desperately tragic incidents that happened in France recently, luckily

:23:24. > :23:26.they have not happened in the United Kingdom. I think that is because we

:23:27. > :23:31.have developed a very good relationship in the United Kingdom

:23:32. > :23:40.with all the national groups who live here. I think that needs to be

:23:41. > :23:45.maintained and cherished. I am a family solicitor. Ideal intimately

:23:46. > :23:51.with many divorces that involve people who are from very religious

:23:52. > :23:56.backgrounds who do wear this garment. We need to take a very

:23:57. > :24:02.subtle approach. I think it does send out a very strong message to

:24:03. > :24:07.perhaps many non-Muslim women, and many moderate Muslim women, that

:24:08. > :24:12.this is excluding women from public society. I think, with regard to

:24:13. > :24:17.security measures, in courts, as Jonathan says, in airports, anywhere

:24:18. > :24:22.where there is a serious security risk, I think the face will have to

:24:23. > :24:25.be uncovered. This is absolutely different to how a lot of people

:24:26. > :24:31.will see it about religious sensitivities. When you make

:24:32. > :24:39.comments like that, where do you think that leaves tolerance? I have

:24:40. > :24:41.just said we must not do anything that is counter-productive. I have

:24:42. > :24:45.just said we have a very good relationship with all the

:24:46. > :24:50.communities in this country, probably far more so than in France.

:24:51. > :24:55.Let's not forget, in Iran, and in Turkey, those two countries, as I

:24:56. > :24:59.understand, have banned this garment. I am sure they know far

:25:00. > :25:03.better than we do about security risks. We need to take an approach

:25:04. > :25:10.which is not counter-productive, is inclusive, but is also ensuring our

:25:11. > :25:15.safety. I think it should not be worn in court. It is incredible that

:25:16. > :25:21.anyone giving witness in court has their faces covered. It should not

:25:22. > :25:24.be worn in an airport situation. In a private setting, of course, you

:25:25. > :25:28.wear whatever you wish. If you're walking down the street, I do not

:25:29. > :25:34.see a major issue with that unless it is likely to lead to a security

:25:35. > :25:40.risk. It is all about security and inclusion. We want everyone to being

:25:41. > :25:48.deluded -- be included in the country. There was a rise in number

:25:49. > :25:53.of attacks burble and otherwise for people living in this country

:25:54. > :26:00.whether by descent of first generation. Are you sensitive to

:26:01. > :26:08.those sorts of issues? Of course we are sensitive to those issues. In

:26:09. > :26:16.the referendum campaign, the project via was telling anybody who opposed

:26:17. > :26:19.uncontrolled immigration, you said earlier that I had expressed

:26:20. > :26:27.opinions that are anti-immigration. I did nothing of the sort. What I

:26:28. > :26:29.said was we must be controlled to Daschle opposed to uncontrolled mass

:26:30. > :26:35.immigration. It is all about control. -- opposed. Many have

:26:36. > :26:39.people on the other side of the debate who tried to make and used

:26:40. > :26:43.stand on something you do not stand for, try to make it out you believe

:26:44. > :26:49.in something you do not believe. It will heighten tension. Do people

:26:50. > :26:53.hear what they want and therefore comments that are made can give rise

:26:54. > :26:59.to justification for something that perhaps you do not agree with? I

:27:00. > :27:04.must take you to task. I have heard time and again that there is

:27:05. > :27:13.allegedly a massive increase, not massive, but an increase

:27:14. > :27:16.post-Brexit. Someone said something that someone disagrees with on

:27:17. > :27:23.Twitter. Someone said something someone disagrees with on Facebook.

:27:24. > :27:25.I will take you to task. There was one major incident, which was

:27:26. > :27:35.misrepresented by the Evening Standard in London. And that was in

:27:36. > :27:42.a London- Polish community centre. That had graffiti written on it.

:27:43. > :27:50.This was misrepresented by the media as being racist. Oh NP is a Polish

:27:51. > :27:55.language think tank which was supportive of Brexit. Sounds like

:27:56. > :28:06.there was a swearword alongside it to. In terms of hate crimes on the

:28:07. > :28:12.council I sit on and Huntingdonshire, we took a unanimous

:28:13. > :28:17.vote on supporting anti-hate crimes. None of us agrees with it. Even in

:28:18. > :28:22.the local community I live in in Ramsey in Cambridgeshire, we had

:28:23. > :28:30.reports of immigrants having doors knocked on saying, if we get Brexit,

:28:31. > :28:41.they will send you home. This is Project Beer. I'm hoping now that

:28:42. > :28:51.this is getting less and less. I'm hoping anything we get about this

:28:52. > :28:56.will have a definite outcome. Why did this still need to exist when

:28:57. > :29:03.Britain is still leaving the EU? It is happening. Ukip needs to exist

:29:04. > :29:08.more than ever. The whole point, why most of us are involved in Ukip, it

:29:09. > :29:11.was not just about leaving the EU. It was opening the doors that we

:29:12. > :29:18.could make some serious and radical changes to our country. We have to

:29:19. > :29:23.get rid of the overpowering states. Too many rules and regulations and

:29:24. > :29:26.too much taxation. Let's give people more freedom. Freedom to keep money

:29:27. > :29:32.in your pocket with a total change to the tax system. Make it simpler.

:29:33. > :29:36.Let's look at replacing VAT and allow real competition across the

:29:37. > :29:40.country on taxation. The kind of innovations we can bring into play

:29:41. > :29:45.now on Security and the economy can make our country a better and safer

:29:46. > :29:48.place. Ukip can be the voice of the people against the tired old

:29:49. > :29:55.astonishment that kept them down for so long. This is our time to really

:29:56. > :30:00.represent the people. Bill is right on that. The way I'd best place, I

:30:01. > :30:05.am a local councillor, I am grass-roots. I had been in the party

:30:06. > :30:08.for 12 years. I have been building up Westminster by-election is

:30:09. > :30:12.knocking on doors, hearing what the British public is asking for. Going

:30:13. > :30:15.forward we all of the agreement it is about Westminster, building on

:30:16. > :30:19.the policies we have already been having a leader that is able to

:30:20. > :30:24.build teams and bring people together. We need to be the party

:30:25. > :30:27.that is not just about bringing from Brussels to Westminster but taking

:30:28. > :30:32.the power from Westminster and it brings it back into the hands of the

:30:33. > :30:34.people. We need to reach out to working class communities, people

:30:35. > :30:37.who have been despised by the Conservatives were so long and find

:30:38. > :30:42.themselves completely abandoned by the Labour Party. Ukip has a massive

:30:43. > :30:46.potential for a breakthrough in places like Hartlepool, in my

:30:47. > :30:50.constituency. We were just 3000 votes short of beating Labour at the

:30:51. > :30:57.last election. If there were a general election tomorrow, I'm sure

:30:58. > :31:02.we would take seats like Hartlepool. We took about issues that actually

:31:03. > :31:08.matter to working people. We are out of time. We'll get that result,

:31:09. > :31:09.September 15. Those campaigning and policy announcements between now and

:31:10. > :31:12.then. Thank you. We're expecting a ruling very

:31:13. > :31:15.shortly on whether the NHS in England should fund a new drug

:31:16. > :31:17.to prevent HIV. We'll be live at the High Court

:31:18. > :31:20.when that decision is announced. And coming up, is the long-awaited

:31:21. > :31:23.second album from Frank Ocean First, let's catch up with the news,

:31:24. > :31:39.with Rebecca in the BBC newsroom. Levels of home ownership have

:31:40. > :31:42.fallen to their lowest levels since the 1980s,

:31:43. > :31:44.according to new analysis. The think tank, The Resolution

:31:45. > :31:47.Foundation, says the housing crisis in London has now spread,

:31:48. > :31:50.with regions in the north and the Midlands becoming

:31:51. > :31:54.increasingly unaffordable. The biggest fall in home ownership

:31:55. > :31:59.has been in Manchester. The High Court will decide shortly

:32:00. > :32:02.whether the NHS in England should It's called PrEP and has been

:32:03. > :32:07.shown to reduce the risk The idea is to give the daily drug

:32:08. > :32:13.to uninfected gay men as a preventative measure

:32:14. > :32:16.against the virus - a treatment campaigners

:32:17. > :32:18.call a "game changer". But NHS England argues

:32:19. > :32:20.that it is not legally allowed to commission the drug,

:32:21. > :32:28.as HIV prevention services are the responsibility

:32:29. > :32:31.of local authorities. A man and woman have been charged

:32:32. > :32:33.in connection with the death of a baby in Gloucester

:32:34. > :32:35.over the weekend. The three-month-old boy was treated

:32:36. > :32:38.at Bristol Children's Hospital Hannah Henry, who is 20

:32:39. > :32:42.and 26-year-old Alistair Walker from Gloucester will appear

:32:43. > :32:44.at Cheltenham Magistrates Court A police investigation

:32:45. > :33:02.into the baby's death continues. The sudden collapse of a bridge has

:33:03. > :33:06.caused major disruption to trains between the East Midlands and

:33:07. > :33:11.London. The road bridge crossing a railway line near Loughborough

:33:12. > :33:14.collapsed in the early hours. Trains between London and Nottingham, Derby

:33:15. > :33:18.and Leicester have been cancelled or delayed. Network Rail has been

:33:19. > :33:25.working to clear the route but does not expected to reopen quickly. --

:33:26. > :33:26.does not expect it. The UK's new European Commissioner

:33:27. > :33:29.is to lead the EU's battle Sir Julian King was offered

:33:30. > :33:32.the post this morning by the Commission President,

:33:33. > :33:34.Jean Claude Juncker. The European Parliament must now

:33:35. > :33:36.approve the appointment. A group of MPs is calling on the BBC

:33:37. > :33:39.to disclose which of its stars earn more than the Prime Minister -

:33:40. > :33:42.that's ?143,000 a year. The Culture, Media and Sport

:33:43. > :33:44.Committee says there's no good reason for performers,

:33:45. > :33:46.presenters or executives It also says there should be

:33:47. > :33:51.a separate Six O'Clock That's a summary of the latest

:33:52. > :34:11.news, join me for BBC We are just hearing from the courts

:34:12. > :34:20.that the National AIDS Trust has won its case against the NHS over the

:34:21. > :34:24.HIV prevention drug PrEP. The National AIDS Trust argued that the

:34:25. > :34:30.NHS should pay for that drug. The NHS had said it was not even legally

:34:31. > :34:35.allowed to fund it because HIV prevention services are the domain

:34:36. > :34:40.of local authorities. The NHS was fighting the prospect of funding

:34:41. > :34:44.that drug on that basis. The National AIDS Trust took a legal

:34:45. > :34:50.case and it has now won. It does not mean the drug automatically gets

:34:51. > :34:59.funded by the NHS. There may, obviously, be an appeal. Even if

:35:00. > :35:02.there is not, what would have to happen is that the issues around the

:35:03. > :35:05.viability of funding and whether it is cost-effective would need to be

:35:06. > :35:07.looked at by the NHS for it gets the go-ahead, but the National AIDS

:35:08. > :35:09.Trust has won that ruling at the High Court, we will get you more on

:35:10. > :35:10.that as soon as we can. Now, John Watson has

:35:11. > :35:14.the sports headlines. Not long to go until the start of

:35:15. > :35:17.the Rio Olympics. After facing a possible

:35:18. > :35:19.ban from the Olympics, Cyclist Lizzie Armitstead has been

:35:20. > :35:21.cleared to compete. Having missed three drug tests over

:35:22. > :35:24.the course of 12 months, which would have led

:35:25. > :35:26.to a suspension, Armitstead proved to the Court of Arbitration

:35:27. > :35:29.for Sport that one of those missed tests was the fault

:35:30. > :35:31.of anti-doping officials. There are ongoing concerns

:35:32. > :35:32.over pollution ahead of the start of the Olympics,

:35:33. > :35:34.just days away. Anyone involved in sports

:35:35. > :35:37.on the open water have been warned to keep their mouths closed,

:35:38. > :35:40.to lower the risk of picking up a virus from

:35:41. > :35:44.the polluted waters in Rio. Former Derby County boss

:35:45. > :35:46.Paul Clement has confirmed he turned down a coaching role with England

:35:47. > :35:55.under new boss Sam Allardyce. Clement has been an assistant

:35:56. > :35:57.manager to Carlo Ancelotti at German champions Bayern Munich

:35:58. > :35:59.since he was sacked And Warwickshire all-rounder

:36:00. > :36:06.Chris Woakes says it's been a surreal summer,

:36:07. > :36:09.as he prepares to play in his first Test match at his home

:36:10. > :36:11.ground of Edgbaston. Woakes has been one of the stand-out

:36:12. > :36:13.performers with bat England's third Test

:36:14. > :36:16.against Pakistan starts tomorrow, And that is all the sport for now,

:36:17. > :36:26.back to you, Joanna. If you live in the UK, you're less

:36:27. > :36:30.likely to own your own home than at any time since the 1980s -

:36:31. > :36:33.that's according to a new report. The social policy think tank

:36:34. > :36:35.The Resolution Foundation says the housing crisis in the London

:36:36. > :36:38.area has spread, with regions in the Midlands and north becoming

:36:39. > :36:40.increasingly unaffordable. Greater Manchester has seen

:36:41. > :36:42.the biggest drop in home It peaked at 72% in

:36:43. > :36:48.2003, but is now 58%. Joining us in our Edinburgh

:36:49. > :36:51.studio is Andrew Steel - he's a father of three

:36:52. > :36:53.from Livingston, who's struggling And with me here in the studio

:36:54. > :36:59.is Conor D'arcy, policy analyst at the Resolution Foundation,

:37:00. > :37:10.which has put the report together. Thank you both for joining us. Talk

:37:11. > :37:14.is through the figures, what have you found? We have seen a really big

:37:15. > :37:18.drop, we are back to the levels of home ownership that we saw in the

:37:19. > :37:22.80s. The story around the housing crisis is that London housing is

:37:23. > :37:26.badly affected, it is difficult to get on a housing ladder here. That

:37:27. > :37:29.is borne out by the findings. But what is left in the public

:37:30. > :37:36.consciousness is that this has spread across the country,

:37:37. > :37:38.particularly the north. In Manchester we have seen a sharp

:37:39. > :37:42.drop, but also in cities like Leeds and Sheffield. Why do you think that

:37:43. > :37:46.is? Incomes have not been able to keep up with house prices. House

:37:47. > :37:53.prices have risen and risen and risen, the amount you need to save

:37:54. > :37:57.to get a deposit has gone up. Even before the crisis, the incomes of

:37:58. > :38:00.typical families have not kept pace with the risers, so trying to get

:38:01. > :38:06.the money together to afford the home is very difficult. Andrew, you

:38:07. > :38:15.are joining us from Edinburgh, you are from Livingston, Telus your

:38:16. > :38:20.experience? My partner and I both have full-time employment, but as

:38:21. > :38:25.you'll contributed just said, we are unable to save, to put something

:38:26. > :38:32.aside to pay for a deposit. We are taking a risk if we apply for a

:38:33. > :38:38.mortgage. We both working full-time, unfortunately we are having to look

:38:39. > :38:43.further afield for work. I work in the public sector. My wages have not

:38:44. > :38:46.kept up with what it would take to pay for that mortgage. And

:38:47. > :38:51.fortunately we have had to move in with our mother-in-law to support

:38:52. > :38:56.our children -- unfortunately we have had to. Can you see the

:38:57. > :39:02.situation changing. You are talking about looking further afield, are

:39:03. > :39:06.there possibilities elsewhere? My job is 125 miles from my home

:39:07. > :39:11.address, I had to travel there. It was the job that I wanted, the only

:39:12. > :39:16.job that would have me at the moment. Trying to get onto that

:39:17. > :39:20.property ladder, saving, commuting, paying for the things you had to pay

:39:21. > :39:25.for, it is not enough. I am not paid enough. You can't put things aside.

:39:26. > :39:37.All the savings that we have go towards paying for family holidays,

:39:38. > :39:39.I am not prepared to say to my children, sorry, we can't go on a

:39:40. > :39:41.family holiday because your parents don't earn enough. Does home

:39:42. > :39:46.ownership matter to you? Yes, it does. It would give as a place to

:39:47. > :39:50.call roam. It is unfortunate that we are stuck in a position where we are

:39:51. > :39:55.living with a family member -- a place to call our own. The only

:39:56. > :40:00.chance others getting on a property ladder is for that family member to

:40:01. > :40:05.pass on and leave the house to us. I don't want to be in that position, I

:40:06. > :40:09.know my partner does not. I would like my own home, I would like that

:40:10. > :40:15.when my children grow up they can afford their own homes as well.

:40:16. > :40:21.Conor, is that a pretty typical example of the sort of things you

:40:22. > :40:25.are hearing? I think so. The intergenerational point is key. As

:40:26. > :40:29.Andrew said, at the moment it is difficult to try to get by, making

:40:30. > :40:34.difficult decisions about whether to go on holiday or other things to do.

:40:35. > :40:39.It is the longer term issue of when he is retired, if you are still

:40:40. > :40:43.renting, having extra costs going out, you are not building the assets

:40:44. > :40:47.that people rely on in the future and want to pass down to their kids,

:40:48. > :40:52.so it is a long-term problem as well short term. Obviously if people are

:40:53. > :40:56.unable to afford to buy, you would say market forces would mean that

:40:57. > :41:00.house prices would drop, looking back to what has happened in the

:41:01. > :41:08.past and the trends now, is it likely that the balance be re-struck

:41:09. > :41:13.in order to make less of a gap between incomes and house prices? It

:41:14. > :41:17.looks unlikely at the moment, but the focus from Theresa May's

:41:18. > :41:20.Government has to be putting the focus on building more houses,

:41:21. > :41:24.increasing the supply in places where the risen high demand,

:41:25. > :41:28.Edinburgh, Manchester, where more and more families are looking to get

:41:29. > :41:32.onto the ladder. We talked about the private rented sector, that can be

:41:33. > :41:37.very good, especially for younger people, but it is about improving

:41:38. > :41:47.the security of the tenancies, improving the quality and

:41:48. > :41:50.overcrowding. Victoria on Facebook, my husband and I are on ?38,000 and

:41:51. > :41:53.?48,000, good salaries, it is depressing that we can't afford to

:41:54. > :41:58.pay for our own home because we are paying ?800 a month in rent. We have

:41:59. > :42:03.only managed to save ?7,000, I am 43, my husband is 42, we are

:42:04. > :42:07.Generation Rent. Matt says something has to give, but as it is so heavily

:42:08. > :42:11.linked to the economy I doubt the Government will do anything. Chris

:42:12. > :42:15.says the buy to let market has driven house prices up, due to

:42:16. > :42:22.interest rates being so low. Those with money to invest have bought out

:42:23. > :42:30.the stock. Private landlord should have to abide by the same rules as

:42:31. > :42:32.social tenants. -- social landlords. Another person says that property

:42:33. > :42:37.landlords now owed more than highly paid professionals, no wonder

:42:38. > :42:40.everybody wants to be one. The Government says that continuing

:42:41. > :42:46.decline in home ownership has been halted because of rights to buy and

:42:47. > :42:52.other initiatives. What difference have those initiatives made? They

:42:53. > :42:57.have definitely helped, but the target group and those who have most

:42:58. > :43:01.benefited those trying to get on the housing ladder, two burners on

:43:02. > :43:05.?30,000 or ?40,000, better off than most. These types of policies are

:43:06. > :43:09.likely to help them. But for people lower down the ladder it is much

:43:10. > :43:14.more difficult to build up a deposit in the first place, even with the

:43:15. > :43:20.help of these policies. Andrew, could those policies help you? If

:43:21. > :43:25.they could help us, it would be helpful for the Government, both the

:43:26. > :43:29.UK Government and the devolved Government, to show us how to access

:43:30. > :43:34.these schemes, gives us better advice and support on how to access

:43:35. > :43:39.these schemes and how to get on that property ladder, I just don't see

:43:40. > :43:45.that. What would you do? I think I will just have to carry on trying to

:43:46. > :43:49.save, trying to get on that property ladder, hopefully at some point the

:43:50. > :43:53.housing prices in my area will come down, hopefully at some point my

:43:54. > :43:59.partner and I can move out and have a place of Rome, have the security

:44:00. > :44:04.which we really want. As you says, are you seeing prices going up,

:44:05. > :44:11.which is always soul destroying when you are constantly trying to catch

:44:12. > :44:15.up? -- as you save? Yes, we are trying to put aside, get ourselves

:44:16. > :44:18.up to that level so that we can afford, unfortunately it is not

:44:19. > :44:24.happening because the housing prices are going up faster than wages.

:44:25. > :44:28.Grant has e-mailed, what has not been mentioned, the buy to let trend

:44:29. > :44:33.may have a consequence on the amount of properties available to buy. Some

:44:34. > :44:37.landlords have more than 300 houses on their books, diminishing the

:44:38. > :44:50.housing stock available to buy. These are usually affordable

:44:51. > :44:51.first-time buyer type houses. Jane, one contributing factor never

:44:52. > :44:54.mentioned is the impact of university debt. Few graduates and

:44:55. > :44:56.young professionals can afford to buy in their 20s because they are

:44:57. > :44:59.saddled with debt. Stuart says my granny saved for years to get a

:45:00. > :45:03.mortgage, then paid 25 years paying the ?800 back. Times change, the

:45:04. > :45:08.struggle does not. Thank you for joining us and for your comments.

:45:09. > :45:12.Still to come, the live stream where nothing much happens, so why has it

:45:13. > :45:16.got so many people excited? It could be that one hip-hop star is about to

:45:17. > :45:25.release his much anticipated second album.

:45:26. > :45:36.The High Court has ruled that a drug that can prevent HIV can be funded

:45:37. > :45:39.by the NHS. It is a victory for a leading AIDS charity. Let's go to

:45:40. > :45:46.Richard, who is outside the court. Tell us what this ruling will mean.

:45:47. > :45:50.I think it is very significant. Mr Justice Green, the judge, has ruled

:45:51. > :45:57.in favour of the National aids trust, which brought this case to

:45:58. > :46:03.the High Court. He has said NHS England has made a mistake. Saying

:46:04. > :46:10.it did not have the power all the duties to prevent the drug. He is

:46:11. > :46:15.saying the NHS in England does have a broad, preventative role in

:46:16. > :46:19.treatment of HIV and the NHS does have the power to commission these

:46:20. > :46:25.preventative treatments. A pretty clear ruling from him. It is not the

:46:26. > :46:29.end of the story. There will be an appeal, certainly the possibility of

:46:30. > :46:33.an appeal, that the judges saying he wants to have done as quickly as

:46:34. > :46:37.possible. There is another stage which is the NHS in England as to

:46:38. > :46:42.commission the drug. They have been talking about dealing with many new

:46:43. > :46:47.drugs, whether to commission them or not. It is not clear how long that

:46:48. > :46:52.process would last. I have been speaking to the national aids trust.

:46:53. > :46:55.They are hoping it could be done as quickly as possible. In theory the

:46:56. > :46:58.drug could be available to those who need it. It could drag on for some

:46:59. > :47:15.time and is not clear at this stage. Mr Khan electrified the convention,

:47:16. > :47:20.challenging Donald Trump to read the US Constitution. It Donald Trump

:47:21. > :47:25.called it a vicious attack. Mr Khan said the Republican candidate cannot

:47:26. > :47:35.insult Muslim men and women and members of the party and not face

:47:36. > :47:40.criticism. He is not capable of understanding.

:47:41. > :47:52.He lacks empathy. He lacks empathy. It will never come to him. The

:47:53. > :47:58.reason for that is, his leadership has come to him behind closed doors.

:47:59. > :48:02.It is public knowledge that all patriotically American Republican

:48:03. > :48:09.leaders have cancelled him on behaviour and fear mongering. You

:48:10. > :48:19.must have read the press release of Congressman the catheter to speak up

:48:20. > :48:36.of the house. There is no room for bashing Muslims in politics. -- be

:48:37. > :48:39.Speaker. The moral burden on the leadership of the Republican party

:48:40. > :48:47.will haunt them if they do not differ so is it themselves from him.

:48:48. > :48:52.What do you think - the Republican party should apologise to you?

:48:53. > :48:57.Apologies are needed. This is political discourse is taking place.

:48:58. > :49:01.This will affect the lives of millions and millions of Americans

:49:02. > :49:08.and the rest of the world is watching, because of the political

:49:09. > :49:15.season in America. America is cherished, valued. The system is

:49:16. > :49:23.given respect. This demagogue, this fear mongering, this person who

:49:24. > :49:28.insults all ethnicities, women, judges, continues to his ways. The

:49:29. > :49:34.Republican party should cancel him and the time has come. He will not

:49:35. > :49:38.change. They should repudiate him, disassociates from him. Otherwise,

:49:39. > :49:45.this moral, ethical burden will remain on their souls.

:49:46. > :49:47.Frank Ocean's long awaited follow-up album could be

:49:48. > :49:51.Four years after the singer released his debut, Channel Orange,

:49:52. > :49:52.a mysterious stream has appeared on his website.

:49:53. > :49:56.The tease shows what looks to be a woodwork bench in a warehouse.

:49:57. > :49:59.Ocean was supposed to have an album out in July 2015 but it

:50:00. > :50:02.never came and the wait for his fans has continued.

:50:03. > :50:04.Since the stream appeared people have taken to Twitter

:50:05. > :50:11.Let's speak now to Sam Wolfson who is the Executive Editor of Vice UK.

:50:12. > :50:16.And Kieran Yates who's a freelance music journalist.

:50:17. > :50:25.Thank you, both. Is this a masterclass in how to get attention?

:50:26. > :50:27.I think so. There has been a lot of anticipation for this album,

:50:28. > :50:31.probably more than anything else. Every time there is a new release

:50:32. > :50:35.date, the internet gets into a buzz and feels let down. Everyone thought

:50:36. > :50:39.it was coming out and then it was not. People were getting furious.

:50:40. > :50:44.There is a strange stream. If you watch it, there is basically nothing

:50:45. > :50:49.going on, just an empty workshop. Slowly you see a guy sort of

:50:50. > :50:52.chopping wood in half. If you look at the progress he has made from the

:50:53. > :51:01.beginning of the estate to the end of this today, it is not that much.

:51:02. > :51:10.-- the beginning of yesterday. How much time Harry spent watching this?

:51:11. > :51:15.A while. -- have you spent? You get the smallest teases of what might be

:51:16. > :51:19.on the record and then it goes back to the guy with working. I sense it

:51:20. > :51:24.might be up again today and he might be working on a larger project. I

:51:25. > :51:27.have been on the internets seeing woodworkers and carpenters saying he

:51:28. > :51:34.might be making stairs, because of the timber he is using. It could be

:51:35. > :51:38.some time. They are getting good at manipulating fans. There is a wider

:51:39. > :51:44.point to be made about attention economy under way in which people,

:51:45. > :51:47.especially big artists, use this appointment viewing in order to

:51:48. > :51:54.filter through the massive music and releases for fans. I saying this

:51:55. > :52:00.dream will be here at 3pm on a certain day, people congregate to a

:52:01. > :52:03.space. It is real reinforcement and excitement as a journalist and

:52:04. > :52:12.fantasy people are still excited by music and they will still come to

:52:13. > :52:20.one place to consume it. -- and a femme, people are still excited. I

:52:21. > :52:25.think it is effective in making music moments cultural moments. It

:52:26. > :52:29.becomes something that is bigger maybe than album sales. We need to

:52:30. > :52:37.remember that album sales are still quite small if you are a big

:52:38. > :52:42.artists. You have people like Kanye West or Beyonce, who create lots of

:52:43. > :52:48.drama and theatre around a release. And the Dell as well. That was a

:52:49. > :52:53.masterclass. Really big artists are creating creative ways into their

:52:54. > :52:57.music. -- Adele. I am not sure that album sales on the main goal. I'm

:52:58. > :53:03.just having another look at the woodworking. In terms of when it

:53:04. > :53:06.might end, somebody spotted the date, November 13, 2016, were

:53:07. > :53:14.stamped onto something. There is talk it could be put out of their

:53:15. > :53:18.misery by Friday. I think Friday, I have said this before but it does

:53:19. > :53:23.seem like Friday it will all come out. Artists like this are kind of

:53:24. > :53:29.working in entirely different economies to people like Adele and

:53:30. > :53:37.One Direction, who are focused on album sales. Beyonce, Kanye West and

:53:38. > :53:40.Frank Ocean are concentrating on the conversation. That is what drives

:53:41. > :53:45.their careers. They make money from other things. They are in a

:53:46. > :53:50.different artistic space entirely. For people who do not know Frank

:53:51. > :53:55.Ocean Metellus more about him. He is an interesting character, isn't he,

:53:56. > :54:06.in terms of what he says, about herself and where he is coming from?

:54:07. > :54:24.He came from a hip-hop crew feature. They were doing controversial stuff.

:54:25. > :54:32.This came out of that and he made two Prince ar and B albums but

:54:33. > :54:41.spoken in modern language. -- R and B. He had a big record but not

:54:42. > :54:45.superstar beak. Since then, he came as bisexual, which was a big deal in

:54:46. > :54:49.that community. So much anticipation. He has been working

:54:50. > :54:53.with interesting directors he made a whole magazine that would come out

:54:54. > :54:59.with this record. I think he has been going a lot deeper into his

:55:00. > :55:03.craft. That is why he had this critically acclaimed album. Almost

:55:04. > :55:08.in the time he has been away he has become bigger and more important as

:55:09. > :55:12.a star. He represents artists who are creatively having their own

:55:13. > :55:18.voices and releasing information about themselves on their own terms.

:55:19. > :55:22.He was talking about his sexuality but also about the Orlando

:55:23. > :55:28.shootings. He is taking a bit of ownership on the way he is presented

:55:29. > :55:31.to the world. That is quite inspiring for other big artists to

:55:32. > :55:38.learn how to speak to their fans in a way that is not wading through and

:55:39. > :55:41.navigating through. They are brilliant at communicating with fans

:55:42. > :55:47.on social media and doing things like this. There is a Premier

:55:48. > :55:55.League. It has got to a stage where the rest of the music industry is

:55:56. > :56:01.fighting for scraps. There are a lot of small and middle level artists.

:56:02. > :56:10.You get this very top tier, who are allowed to do things that whenever

:56:11. > :56:13.possible. 10-15 years ago, Kanye West is screening his Madison square

:56:14. > :56:17.album at every cinema in the UK. Frank Ocean has everyone looking at

:56:18. > :56:25.the live stream this top tier of artists are able to do this better

:56:26. > :56:28.than ever before. Record labels are looking at this as creative

:56:29. > :56:31.marketing exercises. When you're not having to navigate your way through

:56:32. > :56:38.the infrastructure of a record label and you have the freedom to do

:56:39. > :56:43.things yourself creatively, that is what makes cultural moments and that

:56:44. > :56:48.is why it is exciting. We have heard some of the music on the new album.

:56:49. > :56:54.I couldn't possibly say. What is your sense of what it might be like.

:56:55. > :57:00.There have been a couple of teases and things going round. Earlier this

:57:01. > :57:05.year, when some of the big music legends died, people like Prince and

:57:06. > :57:17.David Barry, people saying there will never be anyone like them now.

:57:18. > :57:20.-- Bowie. I get a sense from people he has been working with and

:57:21. > :57:26.snippets of what is to come that he could be one of those artists. He

:57:27. > :57:34.could be one of the artists who have the debts of Prince and Bowie, who

:57:35. > :57:39.makes records that are culturally significant. People think there is

:57:40. > :57:42.no shock of the new anymore, we have seen it all before. I think you

:57:43. > :57:49.might get a sense that that this record and all that is surrounding

:57:50. > :57:50.it. Let's see if it is Friday or November. We will keep watching that

:57:51. > :58:04.feed. You have been in touch. Deirdre has

:58:05. > :58:07.said a fab feature on men wearing the hijab. Peter said were very

:58:08. > :58:16.brave of your Iranians guest speaking out. On homes, Douglas has

:58:17. > :58:23.e-mailed the problem saying home ownership is the principle of supply

:58:24. > :58:27.and demand. A tweet said, I remember when people used to buy houses as a

:58:28. > :58:32.home and now they are seen as an investment. Goodbye.

:58:33. > :58:37.You're coming across as, frankly, ridiculous.

:58:38. > :58:40.I'm flabbergasted by that. Will they get burnt...

:58:41. > :58:44.You have done an appalling job of selling them online. Erm...