04/08/2016

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Thursday - it's nine o'clock, good morning

:00:11. > :00:14.I'm Chloe Tilley in for Victoria, welcome to the programme.

:00:15. > :00:19.Our top story today - One dead and five injured in a knife

:00:20. > :00:26.Police arrest a 19-year-old man - they say mental health could be

:00:27. > :00:31.a significant factor - but terror is 'one line of inquiry'.

:00:32. > :00:36.I'm in Russell Square at the scene of the attack where the police

:00:37. > :00:37.investigation continues and the police are saying terrorism remains

:00:38. > :00:39.one line of enquiry. Also today - at midday,

:00:40. > :00:42.all eyes will be on Bank of England governor Mark Carney who's expected

:00:43. > :00:45.to announce the first interest rate cut for seven years -

:00:46. > :00:48.we'll be looking at what that could mean for you, your family -

:00:49. > :00:58.and for the economy. Five years ago the fatal shooting

:00:59. > :01:02.five years ago of Mark Duggan in Tottenham spark major right across

:01:03. > :01:05.England. People in Tottenham have always said the social issues led to

:01:06. > :01:12.the violence. We will be looking at what has changed. -- sparked major

:01:13. > :01:13.riots. Hello, welcome to the programme,

:01:14. > :01:27.we're live until 11 this morning. Lots in the show. Including: Do you

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:01:40. > :01:45.A woman in her 60s has been killed in two people remain in hospital

:01:46. > :01:49.after a night attack in central London. Police were called to

:01:50. > :01:54.Russell Square at 10:30pm last night. The suspected attacker, 19,

:01:55. > :02:00.was tasered on the scene and arrested on suspicion of murder. He

:02:01. > :02:04.remains in custody at South London police station. Police say mental

:02:05. > :02:06.health was a significant factor but terrorism remains a line of enquiry.

:02:07. > :02:09.Our correspondent reports. It was just after 10.30 when police

:02:10. > :02:11.were called to Russell Square in Central London, where a man armed

:02:12. > :02:14.with a knife was reported A woman, believed to be

:02:15. > :02:21.in her 60s, died at the scene. Two women and three

:02:22. > :02:23.men were injured. And overnight came a statement

:02:24. > :02:28.from the Head of Counterterrorism Early indications suggest that

:02:29. > :02:32.mental health is a significant factor in this case -

:02:33. > :02:35.and that is one major But, of course, at this stage

:02:36. > :02:40.we should keep an open mind regarding motive, and, consequently,

:02:41. > :02:42.terrorism as a motivation remains but one line of enquiry

:02:43. > :02:48.for us to explore. Armed officers were at the scene

:02:49. > :02:51.within minutes, and they used a taser stun gun while they were

:02:52. > :02:57.arresting the suspect. I arrived here to my hotel

:02:58. > :02:59.and I saw the guy getting There were two police cars,

:03:00. > :03:05.and it was like, erm, African, native American man...dark-skinned

:03:06. > :03:07.man, you know, black person... And we heard that there's

:03:08. > :03:16.been stabbing going on. The streets were blocked and no-one

:03:17. > :03:18.was allowed through, yeah, from 1am until now -

:03:19. > :03:21.so it's been a good six hours. The investigation is being led

:03:22. > :03:23.by the Met's Homicide Command, and they're being supported

:03:24. > :03:30.by counterterrorism detectives. At the crime scene,

:03:31. > :03:32.forensics teams will spend A 19-year-old man is under

:03:33. > :03:35.arrest in hospital. Well, for more on this I'm joined

:03:36. > :03:42.by our correspondent Richard Galpin, who's outside Russell Square

:03:43. > :03:53.underground station Richard, a very confused picture as

:03:54. > :03:59.to the motive, but what details do you have right now? The details are

:04:00. > :04:03.still pretty scant. We had the one statement from the police during the

:04:04. > :04:06.night in which they say they are looking at a whole series of

:04:07. > :04:10.different, potential motives for this attack. But one of them, they

:04:11. > :04:14.are saying, they are not ruling out the possibility that terrorism was a

:04:15. > :04:18.motive. They are saying more strongly that they believe mental

:04:19. > :04:24.health was a significant factor in this attack. One eyewitness has been

:04:25. > :04:29.saying to us that he witnessed the incident and was saying that they

:04:30. > :04:36.heard the man who carried out the attack screaming his guts out. That

:04:37. > :04:40.was when the police tasered him and were pinning him down. That is going

:04:41. > :04:44.to be a significant factor in this enquiry. It still leaves the issue

:04:45. > :04:50.of what the motive for the attack was. Terrorism is one line of

:04:51. > :04:53.enquiry, just one. We know these people were injured. Is it clear how

:04:54. > :05:00.serious those injuries are at this stage? Five other people were

:05:01. > :05:06.injured. We've just heard from the police that three of those people

:05:07. > :05:14.have actually now been discharged from hospital. For them their

:05:15. > :05:18.injuries were not serious. But two remain in hospital. We don't have

:05:19. > :05:21.details. Their injuries must be more serious if they are still in

:05:22. > :05:31.hospital hours after this attack. Thank you very much. Now, a summary

:05:32. > :05:35.of the rest of the day's news. There is speculation that the Bank of

:05:36. > :05:43.England may cut interest rates today for the first time since 2009. It is

:05:44. > :05:51.thought Mark Carney will announce a reduction from 0.5% down to 0.25% at

:05:52. > :05:57.noon. Economists have predicted a rate cut is intended to boost the UK

:05:58. > :06:06.economy after the vote to leave the European Union. Millions of people

:06:07. > :06:09.have become so worried by their addiction to digital devices that

:06:10. > :06:12.they have taken a digital detox. Emma Simpson has more details.

:06:13. > :06:18.Nothing beats getting away from it all.

:06:19. > :06:30.If I Google that, we will be able to look today.

:06:31. > :06:35.I find it totally impossible just to put it away and not

:06:36. > :06:40.I like to keep in touch with everybody and I like to be able

:06:41. > :06:44.to post all my photos to Facebook so my friends can see where we are.

:06:45. > :06:47.I am usually on Facebook a bit of Instagram.

:06:48. > :06:54.We are now spending the equivalent of just over a day a week online

:06:55. > :06:59.A third of adults have taken a "digital detox" or break to strike

:07:00. > :07:05.For instance, 16% of us have made a point of going somewhere with no

:07:06. > :07:33.I don't find it is something you need every day. I don't have to be

:07:34. > :07:36.on the Internet. We are better connected than ever before.

:07:37. > :07:39.But the challenge is to not let technology take over our lives.

:07:40. > :07:43.Jeremy Corbyn and the former Shadow Cabinet minister Owen Smith

:07:44. > :07:45.will go head to head tonight in the first Labour

:07:46. > :07:49.It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

:07:50. > :07:52.In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

:07:53. > :07:53.to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

:07:54. > :08:01.while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

:08:02. > :08:03.The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

:08:04. > :08:05.and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

:08:06. > :08:09.after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

:08:10. > :08:11.There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

:08:12. > :08:14.by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

:08:15. > :08:26.Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

:08:27. > :08:31.One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked the

:08:32. > :08:36.honours list and said it is a serious type of very British

:08:37. > :08:39.corruption. Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

:08:40. > :08:44.while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places in the

:08:45. > :08:47.House of Lords could be bought for political donations. He suggested a

:08:48. > :08:47.cap on donations and an elected upper house.

:08:48. > :08:49.The world's tallest moving observation tower

:08:50. > :08:58.The viewing tower,created by the architects of the London Eye,

:08:59. > :09:00.and called the i360, consists of a column

:09:01. > :09:02.with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

:09:03. > :09:07.On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

:09:08. > :09:17.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:09:18. > :09:26.Thank you. Looks coming up. We will be hearing from an eyewitness who

:09:27. > :09:27.was caught up in that knife attack last night in central London.

:09:28. > :09:29.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:09:30. > :09:32.use the hashtag VictoriaLIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:09:33. > :09:42.I was confused yesterday because the Olympics opening ceremony was

:09:43. > :09:46.tomorrow, but the football has started for the women.

:09:47. > :09:52.It has yeah, it is a longer tournament and they need the time to

:09:53. > :09:55.fill it in. It has to start before the opening ceremony. There is big

:09:56. > :09:59.news concerning the opening ceremony. Andy Murray said he was

:10:00. > :10:04.left speechless by being asked to be Great Britain's flag bearer at that

:10:05. > :10:07.opening ceremony on Friday. A warning, some flash photography

:10:08. > :10:12.coming up. Murray has competed at the last two Olympic Games, winning

:10:13. > :10:16.gold and silver in London. Sir Bradley Wiggins had turned down the

:10:17. > :10:21.opportunity. Murray says he is honoured to have been selected. I

:10:22. > :10:28.was just getting into bed, about 11:15pm, I was in my pants. Our team

:10:29. > :10:35.leader came and said that the Chef de Mission needed to speak to me. I

:10:36. > :10:39.jumped out of bed, ran downstairs, Mark gave me the news and I was

:10:40. > :10:43.speechless, really. I didn't know what to say. I was repeating myself,

:10:44. > :10:48.I think, a lot, saying how honoured I was.

:10:49. > :10:53.The Russian athletes seemed in good spirits as they were officially

:10:54. > :10:57.welcomed to the Olympic Village, despite their team being severely

:10:58. > :10:59.reduced due to the numerous bands following allegations of

:11:00. > :11:02.state-sponsored doping. Many not knowing if they will be allowed to

:11:03. > :11:11.compete but there is some defiance among those who will be. We are even

:11:12. > :11:15.more united than ever. We have all come together. We sang the national

:11:16. > :11:21.anthem today. There was a great atmosphere. We are stronger.

:11:22. > :11:25.Everybody is extremely motivated. We will try to prove we deserve this

:11:26. > :11:28.and we are one of the best nations of the world. I think it is very

:11:29. > :11:33.important in this political situation. Hopefully we will become

:11:34. > :11:37.stronger. The Olympic action is already

:11:38. > :11:42.underway with the women's football starting yesterday. Hosts Brazil

:11:43. > :11:47.were one of the teams in action. They beat China 3-0. The men's

:11:48. > :11:52.tournament gets underway this afternoon.

:11:53. > :11:56.World heavyweight champion Tyson Fury faces a UK and in tribunal

:11:57. > :12:01.alleging he has tested positive for a banned substance. He was

:12:02. > :12:06.provisionally suspended in June. That has been lifted pending his

:12:07. > :12:10.hearing. His cousin and fellow boxer has also been charged, although both

:12:11. > :12:13.deny the charges. England's hopes of winning their

:12:14. > :12:17.Test series against Pakistan suffered a setback. They were bowled

:12:18. > :12:24.out on day one of the third test at Edgbaston yesterday. Five wickets

:12:25. > :12:29.for Sohail Khan. He tore through the opening quarter as England struggled

:12:30. > :12:37.to 158-5. They recovered to reach 297. But it was Pakistan's day

:12:38. > :12:44.thanks to Sohail Khan's wickets. They have got a good attack. They

:12:45. > :12:50.bowled well. There was sideways movement for them. It was tough all

:12:51. > :12:55.day. It kept you honest. At the end of the day we probably have a fine

:12:56. > :13:00.score. Celtic are through to the Champions

:13:01. > :13:03.League play-offs after a narrow win against Astana. They needed a

:13:04. > :13:08.last-minute penalty against the Kazakhstan side to make it through.

:13:09. > :13:12.Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney celebrated 12 years at Manchester United last

:13:13. > :13:17.night with a testimonial against his former club Everton. He sat with his

:13:18. > :13:19.youngest son, who looks ready for a spot on the Old Trafford bench

:13:20. > :13:23.already. That is all the sport for now. We

:13:24. > :13:35.will be live in Edgbaston to look ahead today two -- to day two.

:13:36. > :13:38.A woman has been killed and five people have been injured in a knife

:13:39. > :13:41.Two of the injured are still in hospital.

:13:42. > :13:44.The attack took place around ten thirty last night in Russell Square.

:13:45. > :13:46.A 19-year-old man was tasered, and arrested at the scene.

:13:47. > :13:48.Detectives say mental health was a 'significant

:13:49. > :13:50.factor' but terror is also a line of inquiry.

:13:51. > :13:53.This eye witness describes what he saw as the man was detained.

:13:54. > :13:57.What I heard first was the sirens, and then I saw flashing lights,

:13:58. > :14:00.which is quite unusual because this is a quiet street, right?

:14:01. > :14:02.Then I opened the window and I heard people screaming,

:14:03. > :14:11.And this man, the guy, the suspect, was running this way.

:14:12. > :14:19.And three or four police officers were running after him.

:14:20. > :14:24.I saw them shooting at him, almost here, can't really remember where.

:14:25. > :14:29.I thought it was a gun, but then I found that it was not a gun.

:14:30. > :14:39.So many police officers just came here, they blocked the street.

:14:40. > :14:43.I actually thought he was dead because he wasn't moving.

:14:44. > :14:52.And then I saw him, like, moving his legs.

:14:53. > :14:55.And he stayed down there for, like, I don't know,

:14:56. > :15:03.And, yeah, at the end they arrested him.

:15:04. > :15:05.The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has this morning urged Londoners

:15:06. > :15:21.Amy Cole is outside the Metropolitan Police

:15:22. > :15:31.We were speaking a while ago to Richard Com he said it is such a

:15:32. > :15:38.confused picture and it is still not clear what the motive is, what are

:15:39. > :15:41.the police telling you? -- to Richard, he said.

:15:42. > :15:45.Armed police officers were at the scene within five minutes of

:15:46. > :15:51.receiving the call. They tasered the 19-year-old suspect. No shots were

:15:52. > :15:53.fired. In what was a slightly unusual move, the Met police held a

:15:54. > :15:59.press conference in the early hours of this morning. Mark Rowley gave us

:16:00. > :16:00.a bit more of an idea, a bit more of an insight into those lines of

:16:01. > :16:04.enquiry. A 19-year-old man was arrested

:16:05. > :16:06.shortly after 10:39pm and is currently in police

:16:07. > :16:09.custody at hospital. Early indications suggest that

:16:10. > :16:11.mental health is a significant factor in this case, and that is one

:16:12. > :16:15.major line of enquiry. At this stage we should

:16:16. > :16:18.keep an open mind regarding motive, and consequently,

:16:19. > :16:21.terrorism as a motivation remains one line of enquiry

:16:22. > :16:28.for us to explore. At present, the Met's homicide

:16:29. > :16:33.command are investigating the incident, but at present

:16:34. > :16:35.they are supported by our As a precautionary measure tomorrow,

:16:36. > :16:42.Londoners will wake up and in the morning they will notice

:16:43. > :16:44.an increased police presence on the This is there to provide

:16:45. > :16:48.reassurance and safety. We ask the public to remain calm,

:16:49. > :17:05.vigilant and alert. As he said this morning, Londoners

:17:06. > :17:09.waking up to an increased armed presence. While I have been here in

:17:10. > :17:14.the last hour I have seen a couple of armed police officers walking up

:17:15. > :17:21.and down. Their presence is designed to reassure the public and to deter

:17:22. > :17:26.would-be attackers. This is a situation where we are still waiting

:17:27. > :17:31.to hear more about. The 19-year-old suspect is now in police custody,

:17:32. > :17:34.where upon the police will have chance to properly interview him and

:17:35. > :17:43.try to find out what his motives were. STUDIO: Thank you for speaking

:17:44. > :17:47.with us. The Bank of England is expected to make the first cut in

:17:48. > :17:51.interest rates for more than seven years today as the economy falters

:17:52. > :17:56.in the wake of the vote to leave the European Union. Economists predict

:17:57. > :18:00.the bank's monetary policy committee will slash rates from half a percent

:18:01. > :18:06.to a historic low of quarter of a percent in an effort to stave off a

:18:07. > :18:13.recession. What would the cuts mean for you? Let's take a look.

:18:14. > :18:15.For the first time in a long time, interest rates might be

:18:16. > :18:21.The last time the Bank of England changed the cost of borrowing

:18:22. > :18:25.Back then, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister,

:18:26. > :18:27.David Beckham was still playing for England and the Olympics in

:18:28. > :18:36.Now, though, most people do expect to see an interest rate

:18:37. > :18:44.The idea is to give the economy a boost after that

:18:45. > :18:50.Plenty of critics, though, think that may do more harm than good.

:18:51. > :18:52.So, here are the arguments for and against -

:18:53. > :19:02.This decision may come down to confidence, or how confident

:19:03. > :19:09.I'm reading the headlines in the newspapers, and they're

:19:10. > :19:11.all saying, people clamouring to do trade deals with us.

:19:12. > :19:20.I'm a little unsure as to what's going to happen, with Brexit

:19:21. > :19:24.And my future, because I'm only young, and I need to

:19:25. > :19:29.And I'm worrying that I won't be able to afford a mortgage.

:19:30. > :19:33.Since we voted to leave the EU, new economic data has been a bit

:19:34. > :19:39.But what we do have isn't very encouraging.

:19:40. > :19:42.A closely-watched poll of consumer confidence showed the biggest drop

:19:43. > :19:49.in optimism in a quarter of a century last month.

:19:50. > :19:51.There are also some early signs that house-buyers are starting

:19:52. > :19:56.An interest rate cut should make borrowing cheaper and go some way

:19:57. > :20:01.So this is the new property that we're looking at buying,

:20:02. > :20:05.It could help people like Andrew, about to move into a bigger place

:20:06. > :20:12.When you look at purchasing a new property, how important

:20:13. > :20:15.are interest rates and that calculation to you?

:20:16. > :20:20.You know, that affects our mortgage payments, it affects what we can

:20:21. > :20:27.And we've obviously got to weigh it up carefully with the size

:20:28. > :20:32.So it's really important for our monthly budgets, really.

:20:33. > :20:35.He's holding of signing the documents for the moment,

:20:36. > :20:37.though, until he's sure what the Bank of England will do.

:20:38. > :20:40.If it's a favourable decision for us and the rate goes down,

:20:41. > :20:47.then we will go back to the bank and renegotiate.

:20:48. > :20:50.If it goes up, which I doubt, but if it does, we'll

:20:51. > :20:51.sign the paperwork as quickly as possible!

:20:52. > :20:54.A quarter point rate cut this afternoon could save someone

:20:55. > :20:56.with a ?200,000 tracker mortgage about ?300 a year.

:20:57. > :20:59.But it's thought 80% of homeowners are now on some kind of fixed-rate

:21:00. > :21:02.deal, so they're unlikely to benefit straightaway

:21:03. > :21:09.Then there are what companies and businesses are feeling,

:21:10. > :21:13.and again, there are some early signs of a slowdown.

:21:14. > :21:15.A handful of big firms, British Airways among them, have

:21:16. > :21:21.Manufacturers in particular are getting jittery.

:21:22. > :21:24.We've seen a number of confidence surveys coming from consumers

:21:25. > :21:27.and businesses since the vote to leave the European Union,

:21:28. > :21:30.and they've all painted a pretty negative picture.

:21:31. > :21:34.So there has been a shock to the system from the

:21:35. > :21:37.That could potentially weigh on economic growth

:21:38. > :21:42.We don't have any concrete data on that at the moment

:21:43. > :21:44.but I think it's right that the bank act quickly.

:21:45. > :21:48.A done deal, then - a quarter point cut in rates today

:21:49. > :21:50.to calm the economy and encourage us to start spending.

:21:51. > :21:59.There are a heap of good reasons to think all this talk of economic

:22:00. > :22:07.It might look like France or Germany, but no, this vineyard

:22:08. > :22:16.English wine has been talked up as the next big thing for years.

:22:17. > :22:20.A third of this crop is already exported,

:22:21. > :22:24.much to countries outside the EU, like the United States and Japan.

:22:25. > :22:27.If there's doom and gloom here, it's very hard to find it.

:22:28. > :22:32.Demand for the products has been basically skyrocketing.

:22:33. > :22:35.So, Brexit doesn't really worry me unduly, if I was honest.

:22:36. > :22:39.The common external tariff is pretty low -

:22:40. > :22:42.it's only 25 cents a bottle, or thereabouts.

:22:43. > :22:45.So if we had no deal at all with Europe, presumably

:22:46. > :22:48.we would end up having to pay 25 cents a bottle, to get

:22:49. > :22:51.But reality check - the Europeans sell far,

:22:52. > :22:56.far more wine to us than we would ever sell to them,

:22:57. > :23:00.so I would expect that a deal would be done on that.

:23:01. > :23:03.Since we voted to leave the EU, the value of the pound

:23:04. > :23:08.That works both ways for a company like this.

:23:09. > :23:10.It makes selling wine either more profitable or easier.

:23:11. > :23:13.But on the other hand, we buy a lot of capital

:23:14. > :23:15.equipment from Europe - tanks, presses - that

:23:16. > :23:20.will cost us more to import because of the fall in the pound.

:23:21. > :23:23.So overall, do you benefit from that fall, or does it cost you money?

:23:24. > :23:32.Some believe the drop in confidence we saw in the immediate aftermath

:23:33. > :23:36.A new government has been formed quickly,

:23:37. > :23:39.and the stock markets have now bounced back.

:23:40. > :23:41.A cut in interest rates might help borrowers,

:23:42. > :23:44.but it hurts savers, of course, and it could damage

:23:45. > :23:50.Many think there are better ways of encouraging us to spend.

:23:51. > :23:54.I'm not convinced that the benefit of cutting interest rates now

:23:55. > :23:59.I think there are some very significant downsides.

:24:00. > :24:02.I would now be looking at something like a VAT cut.

:24:03. > :24:04.I would be wanting to see the Chancellor do something

:24:05. > :24:09.I would want to see measures to put more money into people's

:24:10. > :24:16.pockets, basically - give them more to spend,

:24:17. > :24:18.perhaps some other tax cuts, perhaps looking at reversing some

:24:19. > :24:20.of the benefit cuts we've had as well.

:24:21. > :24:22.A difficult balance, then, for the Bank of England.

:24:23. > :24:28.Perhaps its most important decision in seven years.

:24:29. > :24:34.We will get the official verdict on the stroke of midday. We will be

:24:35. > :24:36.looking out for that. For more analysis

:24:37. > :24:38.Bronwyn Curtis is here. Bronwyn is an independent economist

:24:39. > :24:40.who is on The Times' The Shadow MPC includes nine former

:24:41. > :24:45.policymakers who monitor the Monetary Policy Committee's

:24:46. > :24:47.Bank Rate decisions, and make rate

:24:48. > :24:59.recommendations of its own. We heard the case for the cut, a

:25:00. > :25:04.quarter of 1%. Do you think it's the right thing to do now? No, I don't

:25:05. > :25:08.think it's the right thing to do now. I think we should just wait,

:25:09. > :25:14.because it's so uncertain. We don't know what's going on. The reason we

:25:15. > :25:18.had this knee jerk reaction of companies not probably investing

:25:19. > :25:22.because it's uncertain, and people not spending. I don't think a

:25:23. > :25:26.quarter of a percent will make any difference, but it has been so well

:25:27. > :25:30.talked about now by Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England,

:25:31. > :25:34.that I think they have to do it. . They also have to do it because if

:25:35. > :25:38.the bank of England does nothing and we hit a recession however many

:25:39. > :25:43.months down the line, he would be criticised. He might be criticised

:25:44. > :25:51.but we expect the monetary policy committee to do the right thing. Not

:25:52. > :25:53.just because they would be criticised, they are meant to be

:25:54. > :25:56.independent, so they should be looking at it to do the right thing.

:25:57. > :25:58.I don't think it will do much harm having quarter of a percent. They

:25:59. > :26:02.will probably do something to increase the amount of money

:26:03. > :26:06.available for banks to lend as well. That might come with it. But it

:26:07. > :26:11.doesn't matter how much and you have till end, if people don't want to

:26:12. > :26:17.borrow, then the economy anyway will tend to fall. And we expect to see a

:26:18. > :26:21.recession. Why don't you think people will borrow money? If the

:26:22. > :26:26.money is made available, why won't it a carriage people, which is the

:26:27. > :26:31.plan? People are worried about the future. -- why won't it encourage

:26:32. > :26:36.people. They tend not to borrow when they are worried, they tend to wait

:26:37. > :26:40.and see what will happen. You need demand for credit. If you didn't get

:26:41. > :26:46.demand at half a percent, is a quarter of a percent cut going to

:26:47. > :26:49.make a huge difference? That point on having a recession and you think

:26:50. > :26:55.that's inevitable, what do you think Mark Carney and the new Chancellor

:26:56. > :27:00.of the Exchequer should do if the rate cut is not the right thing to

:27:01. > :27:05.do. Overall policy is what they need to look at, monetary and fiscal

:27:06. > :27:10.policy. In other words, tax and spend, as well as monetary policy.

:27:11. > :27:15.There are discussions in the markets about perhaps the Bank of England

:27:16. > :27:21.providing money to the government to do some spending. Borrowing at very

:27:22. > :27:24.cheap rates and giving it to the government to do infrastructure

:27:25. > :27:29.spending and all sorts of things like that. That's a combination. We

:27:30. > :27:34.want to see what will happen with tax and spend. That will have more

:27:35. > :27:40.impact than monetary policy now. We have seen that across the world, not

:27:41. > :27:45.just the UK. Monetary policy at these levels has reached the end of

:27:46. > :27:51.its effective time. Is it all because of Brexit? Yes, it's mostly

:27:52. > :27:54.because of Brexit. I think the economy was already slowing before

:27:55. > :28:00.Brexit, but we have seen the currency dropped by 11% since May.

:28:01. > :28:04.7% since Brexit against all the other currencies in the world. We

:28:05. > :28:11.have seen companies say that they will wait. I think a lot of it, the

:28:12. > :28:15.tip into recession, which I expect to see in the third quarter, and I

:28:16. > :28:20.expect growth next year to be much lower and inflation higher, which

:28:21. > :28:24.isn't good if you are buying food, clothing and all that sort of thing.

:28:25. > :28:28.Lots of people in the media since the Brexit vote have said, you'll

:28:29. > :28:35.talk us into a recession, stop saying it because it can be avoided.

:28:36. > :28:38.But you it's inevitable. I think it's inevitable come you don't talk

:28:39. > :28:43.yourself into a recession. We need to get rid of the uncertainty and we

:28:44. > :28:46.need stability. With Brexit, the uncertainty goes on for a long time

:28:47. > :28:50.and it will have an impact. That's causing the problem. I will not take

:28:51. > :28:55.out an extra mortgage just because rates come down a quarter of a

:28:56. > :29:00.percent. In fact, banks might not cut mortgage rates. Because it might

:29:01. > :29:06.cost too much money to do so. HSBC said yesterday that a cut of quarter

:29:07. > :29:16.of a percent would cost them ?100 million in lost net income. Thank

:29:17. > :29:20.you for coming in. After 10am we will talk to four people who have

:29:21. > :29:24.different perspectives of whether an interest rate cut would be good or

:29:25. > :29:28.bad for them. More on the London stabbing attack shortly. We have

:29:29. > :29:33.heard Maher of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday and will

:29:34. > :29:36.give a news briefing at 3pm. Still to come...

:29:37. > :29:39.Five years ago, the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan in Tottenham

:29:40. > :29:41.by undercover police officers sparked the worst riots of recent

:29:42. > :29:43.times across London and other English cities: we'll be looking

:29:44. > :29:48.Since Nigel Farage resigned last month, the party has been hit

:29:49. > :29:50.by bitter in-fighting over who should replace him -

:29:51. > :30:07.Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:30:08. > :30:14.An old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman in

:30:15. > :30:18.her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a knife attack in

:30:19. > :30:27.Russell Square, central London. -- a 19-year-old man. The man remained in

:30:28. > :30:31.custody at a south London police station. Two victims remain in

:30:32. > :30:35.hospital. Three others have been discharged. Sadiq Khan is cutting

:30:36. > :30:40.short his holiday to deal with the response of the attack. One witness

:30:41. > :30:45.told us what she saw. I looked out the window and I saw a black man who

:30:46. > :30:50.was running down the street. As he was running down the street he was

:30:51. > :30:56.turning to see if the police were coming close. I could hear the

:30:57. > :30:59.policeman screaming stop, don't go any further, stay where you are, and

:31:00. > :31:02.he turned round and continued running. He wasn't prepared to stop.

:31:03. > :31:05.There's speculation that the Bank of England may cut interest rates

:31:06. > :31:07.today, for the first time since March 2009.

:31:08. > :31:09.It's anticipated that Mark Carney, the Bank's Governor,

:31:10. > :31:12.will announce a reduction from half a percent, to a quarter

:31:13. > :31:15.Last month the Monetary Policy Committee voted to hold

:31:16. > :31:18.interest rates, despite economists predicting a cut.

:31:19. > :31:21.A rate cut would be intended to boost the UK economy

:31:22. > :31:27.following the vote to leave the European Union.

:31:28. > :31:30.Internet overload has led millions of people in the UK

:31:31. > :31:32.to take a digital detox, according to research

:31:33. > :31:36.Its survey found more than 30 per cent of internet users have

:31:37. > :31:40.taken between a day and a month away from the web.

:31:41. > :31:42.Almost 60% of those surveyed, consider themselves to be

:31:43. > :31:53.Jeremy Corbyn and the former shadow cabinet minister Owen Smith will go

:31:54. > :31:56.head to head tonight in the first Labour leadership debate.

:31:57. > :31:58.It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

:31:59. > :32:01.In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

:32:02. > :32:03.to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

:32:04. > :32:08.while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

:32:09. > :32:10.The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

:32:11. > :32:12.and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

:32:13. > :32:19.after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

:32:20. > :32:22.There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

:32:23. > :32:24.by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

:32:25. > :32:39.Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

:32:40. > :32:41.One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked

:32:42. > :32:43.the honours list and said it is a serious type

:32:44. > :32:46.Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

:32:47. > :32:49.while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places

:32:50. > :32:51.in the House of Lords could be bought for political donations.

:32:52. > :32:55.He suggested a cap on donations and an elected upper house.

:32:56. > :32:56.The world's tallest moving observation tower

:32:57. > :33:06.The viewing tower, created by the architects of the London Eye,

:33:07. > :33:08.and called the i360, consists of a column

:33:09. > :33:10.with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

:33:11. > :33:14.On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

:33:15. > :33:26.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:00.

:33:27. > :33:35.Thanks, let's get some sport. The main headlines in sport, Andy

:33:36. > :33:39.Murray said he lapped out of his bed in his underpants to learn he would

:33:40. > :33:43.be Great Britain's flag bearer in fright's opening ceremony at the Rio

:33:44. > :33:45.Olympics. He has said he is humbled and will be extremely proud to carry

:33:46. > :33:52.the flag. Climbing is one of the new sports to

:33:53. > :33:57.be approved for the next Olympic Games. Skateboarding, serving,

:33:58. > :34:02.karate, and baseball have also been brought in for 2020. -- surfing.

:34:03. > :34:07.Tyson Fury will face an anti-doping tribunal after he was charged over

:34:08. > :34:12.the alleged presence of a banned substance in tests taken early in

:34:13. > :34:20.2015. A provisional suspension has been lifted pending the case. He and

:34:21. > :34:23.his cousin, also a boxer, have denied any wrongdoing.

:34:24. > :34:33.England were bowled out for 297 on the third day -- on the first day of

:34:34. > :34:37.the third test against Pakistan. Mousa Dembele scored in injury time

:34:38. > :34:42.penalty to send Celtic through to the Champions League play-off round.

:34:43. > :34:45.They beat Kazakhstan champions Astana 2-1 in Glasgow to seal a 3-2

:34:46. > :34:49.aggregate win. We will be back just after ten,

:34:50. > :34:50.talking cricket. Thank you.

:34:51. > :34:53.It's five years today since the killing of Mark Duggan

:34:54. > :34:56.who was shot by undercover officers in Tottenham in north London.

:34:57. > :34:58.It was originally reported that there had been a shootout

:34:59. > :35:01.between Mr Duggan and the Police, but two days later it emerged

:35:02. > :35:05.that the only shots fired had been from the officers.

:35:06. > :35:07.What followed were five nights of rioting that started in Tottenham

:35:08. > :35:12.They left five people dead and caused more

:35:13. > :35:17.Howard Johnson takes a look at the epicentre of that

:35:18. > :35:30.That's why I'm saying to myself, you know what, in order for them

:35:31. > :35:33.to be some sort of change, the community needs to do it.

:35:34. > :35:37.We need to, we're the people that live in the community,

:35:38. > :36:09.So, this is Tangmere - this is where I used to live.

:36:10. > :36:17.This is where me and Mark used to live.

:36:18. > :36:20.The riots is the language of the unheard, you get me?

:36:21. > :36:23.So I believe people in high places heard that voice,

:36:24. > :36:29.But at the same time, Jermaine Beckford got

:36:30. > :36:32.So I don't think it's really changed, but I think

:36:33. > :36:35.they recognise now that these people are willing to fight.

:36:36. > :36:40.If they get pushed into a corner too much.

:36:41. > :36:48.It's something what stirs up every now and again,

:36:49. > :36:55.It can be quiet for a while, and then for some reason,

:36:56. > :37:02.Tottenham, five years on, we have moved on quite considerably.

:37:03. > :37:05.They've refurbished a lot of the areas that people would not

:37:06. > :37:11.So, things have definitely changed economically,

:37:12. > :37:17.We need to speak to our young people.

:37:18. > :37:22.They're still being stopped, they're still being searched.

:37:23. > :37:25.So I would say, five years' time, we're making steps, we not fully

:37:26. > :37:28.there but we're making the steps that we need to get ourselves heard.

:37:29. > :37:37.People in Tottenham maintain that there were a vast array

:37:38. > :37:40.of social issues that lead to the riots rather

:37:41. > :37:42.than just mindless violence by an apathetic youth.

:37:43. > :37:44.We asked both the Secretary of State for Communities

:37:45. > :37:47.and Local Government Sajid Javid and Haringey Council Leader Claire

:37:48. > :37:55.Kober to join our discussion this morning but both refused.

:37:56. > :37:57.Let's talk now to Marcus Knox-Hooke, Mark Duggan's best friend

:37:58. > :38:02.and the subject of documentary 'The Hard Stop', that films

:38:03. > :38:03.producer George Amponsah, a long time Tottenham resident

:38:04. > :38:06.and lawyer who defended a number of people accused

:38:07. > :38:09.of rioting Jude Lanchin, and Oxford Law graduate Fahim Alam

:38:10. > :38:15.who was falsely accused of violent disorder during the riots.

:38:16. > :38:22.Thank you all for coming in. I appreciate it. In that BT we were

:38:23. > :38:27.talking about this, a story like this happens, the media descends,

:38:28. > :38:33.then they disappear for five years and suddenly people are interested

:38:34. > :38:39.again. -- VT. Would you take us back to the aftermath of your friend's

:38:40. > :38:51.Mark Duggan's death, what you think happened, and why the riots began?

:38:52. > :38:57.The day mark got shot. No family liaison officer came to report his

:38:58. > :39:01.death. -- Mark. We got no answers to what he was shot. An announcement

:39:02. > :39:05.was made by the family that we would go to the police station and demand

:39:06. > :39:09.answers to why nobody has come to the family and to find out what he

:39:10. > :39:17.had been shot. Saturday, we went to the police station, the mother of

:39:18. > :39:21.Mark's kids, she enquired as to what was going on. She was asked to wait

:39:22. > :39:25.for a Police Commissioner, or somebody, to come to speak to her.

:39:26. > :39:33.Six hours later an officer came out and said the commission cannot make

:39:34. > :39:39.it. -- Commissioner. They locked the doors and left us on the streets. We

:39:40. > :39:44.were out there with our mothers, Mark's mum was there, so were his

:39:45. > :39:50.children. My mum, just family members. I suppose we just felt

:39:51. > :40:00.humiliated, disrespected, and just felt, yeah, like, just disregarded

:40:01. > :40:06.as nobody, I suppose. I went into my own zone. We didn't expect what was

:40:07. > :40:15.about to happen next. We can't just walked away from everybody. A police

:40:16. > :40:21.car was parked the side road -- on the side road. I took out my

:40:22. > :40:25.frustration on the car. From that initial act everything kind of

:40:26. > :40:33.escalated from there. As you did that did people follow you? Yeah.

:40:34. > :40:37.Was that just anger. Was that, you are not listening to ask you are

:40:38. > :40:45.disrespected us, this will make you listen? -- listening to us. It was a

:40:46. > :40:53.little bit of that. And what we've witnessed over the years. Somebody

:40:54. > :41:01.was killed in the 1985 riots. I was about four on the estate, and years

:41:02. > :41:04.after Joey Gardner was killed, years after that Roger Sylvester was

:41:05. > :41:16.killed, and obviously Mark Duggan being the last person. It's like,

:41:17. > :41:19.enough was enough. Do you... You are obviously angry. You felt

:41:20. > :41:25.disconnected. But do you look back and regret because you were blamed

:41:26. > :41:31.by the police. The riots? You went to prison. People died, a lot was

:41:32. > :41:39.damaged, do you regret what you did? A lot of people were made homeless.

:41:40. > :41:44.-- by the police for the riots. My initial fight was against the

:41:45. > :41:50.police. I would not blame myself for the riots. At the police spoke to us

:41:51. > :41:56.-- had the police, and spoken to us within that hour I'm sure the crowd

:41:57. > :42:03.would have left peacefully. -- had the police,

:42:04. > :42:09.We were made to wait outside a police station for six hours. Later

:42:10. > :42:17.disrespected. You were nodding throughout. Tell us your thoughts.

:42:18. > :42:23.-- blatant disrespect. It is probably the wrong question to say

:42:24. > :42:30.that he is responsible for the riots. That is what the police said.

:42:31. > :42:36.Obviously he had a particular set of feelings at the time. There was

:42:37. > :42:39.obviously anger. But deep grief. He lost his best friend in

:42:40. > :42:47.circumstances which were unexplained. There had been a media

:42:48. > :42:51.blow out. Initially straightaway saying Mark was involved in a shoot

:42:52. > :42:56.out, which then turned out not to be true. But it is worth saying that a

:42:57. > :43:04.gun was found close to his body and there was some disagreement as to

:43:05. > :43:10.whether it was thrown by Mark. That is something we can confirm. In the

:43:11. > :43:14.inquest the forensic expert confirmed that given the injuries

:43:15. > :43:18.Mark received he was shot twice, including in the right arm. There is

:43:19. > :43:24.no way he could have thrown the gun to the distance it was found. There

:43:25. > :43:27.is all of this anger in the community. Explain what Tottenham

:43:28. > :43:31.was like before that. This was not just a one-off incident as Marcus

:43:32. > :43:38.has explained, it sounds like you are saying this was the straw that

:43:39. > :43:44.broke the camel's back. Tottenham had the riots in 1985, which came

:43:45. > :43:47.out of the death of a black woman. In circumstances where her son had

:43:48. > :43:51.been arrested for a minor crime. They went to the house and she died.

:43:52. > :43:57.Subsequent to that there was the death of Joy Gardner at the hands of

:43:58. > :44:01.immigration detention officers and the police. Roger Sylvester who had

:44:02. > :44:05.mental health difficulties. And in fact where the jury in the inquest

:44:06. > :44:14.had found was unlawfully killed and then Mark. And also I think it is to

:44:15. > :44:19.do with Tottenham and the sense of grievance. And years and years of

:44:20. > :44:23.lack of accountability that all of these things happened. But also

:44:24. > :44:28.compounded by the daily experiences people had of interaction with the

:44:29. > :44:33.police that were negative. No accountability within the judicial

:44:34. > :44:37.processes for those deaths. For example, in Roger Sylvester's case

:44:38. > :44:42.the jury found he was unlawfully killed and an application was made

:44:43. > :44:45.to a higher court to get that overturned on the basis that the

:44:46. > :44:52.jury was apparently confused by the evidence. It's a long history. Then

:44:53. > :44:58.compounded by the utter disrespect that the family felt that nobody

:44:59. > :45:04.from the police authorities, police or ICC, went to the family to say to

:45:05. > :45:10.them this is what has happened. Nobody in two days. George, you have

:45:11. > :45:14.been in, you have followed Marcus and his friends. You got involved in

:45:15. > :45:19.the following years from those riots. What are your thoughts

:45:20. > :45:28.following that, speaking to Marcus, speaking to other people?

:45:29. > :45:34.I'm not from Tottenham. I was born in West London, but I'm old enough

:45:35. > :45:41.to remember the 1985 news reports. To be honest, someone emanating from

:45:42. > :45:44.nice places like Putney and Chiswick, I remember thinking, I'm

:45:45. > :45:54.glad I don't have to live there. Skip 30 years, and London is in

:45:55. > :46:00.flames, emanating from a riot, again in Tottenham from somebody who comes

:46:01. > :46:06.from Broadwater farm. The phrase, history repeating itself, it

:46:07. > :46:13.couldn't be more apt at that point. My initial interest in making the

:46:14. > :46:16.film was simply... I had the opportunity and access to film with

:46:17. > :46:22.childhood friends of Mark Duggan, and as far as I saw it, here was an

:46:23. > :46:27.opportunity to actually find out from people who I felt at the time

:46:28. > :46:31.perhaps had a genuine reason for rioting, and these were clearly not

:46:32. > :46:36.people who were taking an opportunity to run into Foot Locker

:46:37. > :46:41.to get free goods. That was my initial impression. What do you mean

:46:42. > :46:45.about that? So many reports on the news about people running up with

:46:46. > :46:50.plasma televisions and things. I think that kind of detracted.

:46:51. > :46:53.Although it was happening and was very tragic, it was quite

:46:54. > :46:58.extraordinary the way the rioting spread, and was allowed to spread.

:46:59. > :47:01.But it kind of detracted from why this happened in the first place and

:47:02. > :47:07.what happened in the first place. And that was all about Mark Duggan.

:47:08. > :47:12.You were falsely accused of taking part in the riots. Explain what

:47:13. > :47:21.happened. I was arrested in Hackney on the 8th of August 20 11. They had

:47:22. > :47:25.an overnight court setup. I was remanded in custody and not given

:47:26. > :47:30.bail. Six weeks after spending some time in prison, I was on a tag for

:47:31. > :47:37.six months before I was acquitted in a trial by jury. What did you make

:47:38. > :47:43.of the justice meted out? You had all these politicians with very

:47:44. > :47:47.strong words about the riots across England, and many police criticising

:47:48. > :47:49.young people. Did you feel there was an understanding of the grievances?

:47:50. > :47:56.You went through that justice system. There was a lot of

:47:57. > :48:00.injustice. As Marcus and everyone else has pointed out, there is

:48:01. > :48:03.historical and structural injustice. There is a pattern behind all of

:48:04. > :48:08.this that is all too familiar. You can look in the United States where

:48:09. > :48:14.there is a similar situation going on. It's something that isn't

:48:15. > :48:21.accidental. There is a lack of focus on institutions such as the police,

:48:22. > :48:25.IPCC, the court system, and the media, including the BBC and other

:48:26. > :48:29.agencies who took the word of the IPCC or what the police had to say,

:48:30. > :48:34.and reported it as though Mark Duggan was a gunmen. What has

:48:35. > :48:39.changed five years on? Marcus, has Tottenham changed? Nothing has

:48:40. > :48:44.really changed. Just a couple of months ago, five years on from

:48:45. > :48:50.Mark's death, another young lad was shot dead, Jermaine Baker. The only

:48:51. > :48:54.thing I've noticed that has changed, since Mark's shooting, there have

:48:55. > :48:59.hardly been any police on the estate. Up until that point police

:49:00. > :49:03.were always present on Broadwater farm. But since Mark was shot, you

:49:04. > :49:08.don't see police on the state really. What's the relationship

:49:09. > :49:20.between the police? You mentioned in the US, Black Lives to make matter.

:49:21. > :49:26.Do you think there is a better connection between the police and

:49:27. > :49:30.community in Tottenham? The main response to the riots in Tottenham

:49:31. > :49:34.and many other areas was this relentless process of

:49:35. > :49:39.gentrification. There were many reports and enquiries that came out

:49:40. > :49:41.after the riots, eventually, that the government commissioned after

:49:42. > :49:46.deciding it wasn't all about criminality. From each of you, what

:49:47. > :49:49.would you like to see and what would you like the police to do and what

:49:50. > :49:56.would you like to see change in Tottenham? For them to police the

:49:57. > :50:00.streets properly, and not abuse their authority, so to speak. It's

:50:01. > :50:04.like they are using their permission to oppress people instead of helping

:50:05. > :50:10.them. -- using their position to oppress people. Maybe I'm

:50:11. > :50:15.old-fashioned but I would like to see some sort of return to real

:50:16. > :50:18.community policing, so you have sections of the police in Tottenham

:50:19. > :50:24.who are part of the community and regarded as such. What I would like

:50:25. > :50:29.to see in Tottenham and across the board, not so much about policing,

:50:30. > :50:33.is proper funding, government and local authority funding and

:50:34. > :50:36.initiatives for young people. We are in a situation five years on where

:50:37. > :50:41.there has been huge cuts, and it seems self-evident, and I know

:50:42. > :50:45.people might see it as a repeated mantra, young people, young people,

:50:46. > :50:49.but the reality is that in Tottenham, as in many places, there

:50:50. > :50:52.have been huge cuts in youth provisions. If there was a

:50:53. > :50:55.substantially different approach to working with young people on an

:50:56. > :51:02.everyday level, perhaps many things would change. I think the police

:51:03. > :51:06.need to change their ways and also admit where they have done wrong in

:51:07. > :51:10.order for the community to be able to move on and move forward. As long

:51:11. > :51:14.as there is this historical injustice hanging over the

:51:15. > :51:18.community, nothing will be resolved. You are all talking about trust.

:51:19. > :51:25.Thank you for coming in today to all of you. We asked the Metropolitan

:51:26. > :51:29.Police for a statement that we have not yet received. But we did get a

:51:30. > :51:47.statement from Haringey Council... The Department for Communities

:51:48. > :52:14.and Local Government have also sent Coming up, could you give up social

:52:15. > :52:19.media for a whole week? I had to, and I will explain why in a while.

:52:20. > :52:23.60% of you in the UK admit to being hooked on digital devices.

:52:24. > :52:26.Since Nigel Farage resigned as Ukip leader straight after the UK voted

:52:27. > :52:28.for Brexit on June 23rd, bitter infighting has overshadowed

:52:29. > :52:31.Yesterday, the favourite, Steven Woolfe was excluded -

:52:32. > :52:33.when he submitted his nomination papers 17 minutes

:52:34. > :52:38.Three members of Ukip's ruling National Executive Committee

:52:39. > :52:41.immediately resigned amid accusations of political bias.

:52:42. > :52:54.Let's talk to Matthew Goodwin, author of the book Revolt

:52:55. > :52:56.On The Right and a leading expert on Ukip

:52:57. > :52:58.and Lesley Ede, Graham Reakes and David Adams -

:52:59. > :53:00.three Ukip voters who have been watching the leadership

:53:01. > :53:04.Also with us via Skype is Mick McGough, who stepped down

:53:05. > :53:09.from the NEC after the decision to exclude Steven Woolfe yesterday.

:53:10. > :53:21.Thank you all for coming in. Mick, you were one of the members of Ukip

:53:22. > :53:28.who resigned from the NEC. Why was that? I had been unhappy for some

:53:29. > :53:34.time. It has been building up. I was particularly against the treatment

:53:35. > :53:41.of Nathan Gill, the leader in Wales, who they want to stand down as an

:53:42. > :53:45.MEP. If he does that, we lose an MEP, and there will be great cost to

:53:46. > :53:53.the public to have a by-election. We would lose staff, we would be one

:53:54. > :53:57.MEP down, and it's a nonsense. Fair enough, he said he would stand down

:53:58. > :54:03.if he got both jobs, but things have moved on. They are not pragmatic

:54:04. > :54:15.enough to accept change. The NEC are now bound rigidly to the minutiae in

:54:16. > :54:18.order to attack people. In regard to the leadership election, Steven

:54:19. > :54:22.Woolfe was overwhelmingly the favourite in my opinion. I'm getting

:54:23. > :54:29.inundated with calls. He was a face that people outside Ukip would

:54:30. > :54:34.possibly no more than anyone else. Just bringing in Matthew for a

:54:35. > :54:38.moment. Some people say Ukip is in complete disarray after losing Nigel

:54:39. > :54:43.Farage, this huge character. And they are now getting rid of the one

:54:44. > :54:46.person everyone else seemed to know. There is certainly a crisis brewing

:54:47. > :54:49.and it could get worse before it gets better. There is talk on the

:54:50. > :54:53.one hand about completely reforming Ukip, getting rid of the ruling

:54:54. > :54:57.body, which is quite controversial in the party. It could go in a

:54:58. > :55:02.different way which would be a new movement, a breakaway party, perhaps

:55:03. > :55:08.led by influential Ukip donors and those loyal to Nigel Farage. As

:55:09. > :55:12.voters, what would you like to see Ukip do now? Lots of people sate

:55:13. > :55:19.Brexit is sorted, what purpose does Ukip have? Nothing has been sorted

:55:20. > :55:24.on Brexit whatsoever yet. Until we see anything concrete, I think it's

:55:25. > :55:28.too soon to say. Regarding the election for a reader, I think

:55:29. > :55:35.Steven Woolfe and Diane James are my two preferred choices. But Steven

:55:36. > :55:40.Woolfe seems to have tripped up and we can't really afford to throw

:55:41. > :55:46.talent like that away. Tripped up, 17 minutes seems very harsh. It is.

:55:47. > :55:50.We need Ukip to be able to hold the government to account on Brexit. We

:55:51. > :55:56.don't want Brexit-lite. The red line for me is the immigration issue. We

:55:57. > :56:04.don't want open borders, so we need a strong Ukip to hold the government

:56:05. > :56:08.to account. And also we need it for democracy, we need checks and

:56:09. > :56:14.balances that the other parties give to that. Interesting that you both

:56:15. > :56:17.say you need Ukip to hold the government to account. Does it mean

:56:18. > :56:20.that when Brexit has been achieved there is no place for Ukip any more?

:56:21. > :56:26.Nobody knows any of their other policies. They have lots of other

:56:27. > :56:32.policies beside that. For example, they are into the environment. For

:56:33. > :56:39.example, they want to get rid of wind farms, because they think they

:56:40. > :56:49.damage the environment. And there's other issues, more local to me, an

:56:50. > :56:52.issue with Goodwin Sands where the local harbour board want to dredge

:56:53. > :56:57.Goodwin Sands, and they are against that. Do you think many other people

:56:58. > :57:07.know these other policies of Ukip? Most people just see them as the

:57:08. > :57:13.exiting Europe party. It played a part in winning nap vote. Ukip needs

:57:14. > :57:16.to think about what it says on the economy and health care, what it

:57:17. > :57:21.says on big issues that really matter to voters aside from

:57:22. > :57:26.immigration and how the negotiations with the EU go from here. Do you

:57:27. > :57:30.worry about your party going forward, Nick? Looking at the list

:57:31. > :57:34.of names on the ballot for the leadership, most people will not

:57:35. > :57:39.have heard of these people. Whether or not people have been heard of,

:57:40. > :57:45.doesn't mean they are not a credible force. But you have to engage the

:57:46. > :57:49.public and if there is a general perception that you are just the

:57:50. > :57:56.leave Europe party, you needed Nigel Farage for that character, didn't

:57:57. > :58:04.you? We've had a lot of success in the council elections. It's not just

:58:05. > :58:08.about Europe. We had a very well-received manifesto to the

:58:09. > :58:12.general election last year. It was so good that the media didn't want

:58:13. > :58:16.to pick up on it. It was fully costed. All the policies are there.

:58:17. > :58:21.But when we get a reader, that leader will be in the spotlight and

:58:22. > :58:28.be able to put themselves forward and address the situation. I have no

:58:29. > :58:32.worries about the party and qualities of the party and the

:58:33. > :58:37.policies will promote. As your colleagues on the panel say, Brexit

:58:38. > :58:42.was our raison d'etre and we have to see it through. And it will happen

:58:43. > :58:45.for a feud years yet, it will take quite a bit of time to see that

:58:46. > :58:51.through. Thank you all for coming in and joining us. Coming up on the EE

:58:52. > :58:55.of the Olympic Games opening ceremony, we will speak to an

:58:56. > :59:00.athlete who is about to board her playing to Rio and 218 GP super fan.

:59:01. > :59:17.Time for the latest weather update. Improvement today regarding the

:59:18. > :59:22.wind. The deep area of low pressure...

:59:23. > :59:27.As for a mixture of sunshine and showers, some of them quite heavy

:59:28. > :59:31.and thundery at times. Potentially through the Midlands and North East

:59:32. > :59:34.England, very hit and miss the showers, difficult to pinpoint where

:59:35. > :59:39.they will be. A lotto dry weather in between, blustery at times with wind

:59:40. > :59:43.easing down through the day. Top temperature of 2223 in the

:59:44. > :59:52.south-east, a view down on what we had yesterday. -- of 22 or 23. Here,

:59:53. > :00:00.feeling chilly with temperatures of 13 or 14 in Scotland, plenty of

:00:01. > :00:04.sunshine in Belfast. Wind beginning to die down further, becoming much

:00:05. > :00:09.lighter. Also showers disappearing, so with clear skies and light wind,

:00:10. > :00:13.recipe for a chilly night, particularly across the Glens of

:00:14. > :00:17.Scotland where we could see freezing temperatures and a touch of frost in

:00:18. > :00:21.sheltered glens. Friday starting on a cool note with a ridge of high

:00:22. > :00:27.pressure coming in to settle things down. Light wind, a a lot of dry

:00:28. > :00:31.weather with very few showers. Some later on in Northern Ireland and

:00:32. > :00:35.northern Scotland, but most places will be dry. Because of lighter

:00:36. > :00:47.winds and strong August sunshine, it will feel warmer than today. For the

:00:48. > :00:49.weekend, for much of England and Wales, eastern Scotland, dry weather

:00:50. > :00:52.and warmth. It will be quite settled across Northern Ireland and Scotland

:00:53. > :00:55.with a deep area of low pressure moving in. We could see some severe

:00:56. > :01:02.gales, pretty unusual for this type of year. Warm, mid 20s in the south,

:01:03. > :01:12.high teens in the North. Our top story this morning -

:01:13. > :01:15.a woman's been killed Police have arrested

:01:16. > :01:18.a 19-year-old man - they say mental health could be

:01:19. > :01:36.a significant factor - He was carrying a knife in his hands

:01:37. > :01:42.and he had blood on his hands. I'm in Russell Square where the

:01:43. > :01:45.attack took place last night. The police cordon has been lifted but

:01:46. > :01:47.the investigation continues. Also today:

:01:48. > :01:50.For the first time since March 2009 - the Bank of England is expected

:01:51. > :01:52.to cut UK interest rates at midday today.

:01:53. > :01:55.We'll be looking at what that could mean for you, your family -

:01:56. > :01:58.The Olympic Games opening ceremony gets underway tomorrow -

:01:59. > :02:01.we'll be talking to two athletes about to board their plane to Rio

:02:02. > :02:13.Here's Julian Worriker in the BBC Newsroom

:02:14. > :02:21.A 19-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a woman

:02:22. > :02:24.in her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a knife

:02:25. > :02:27.attack in Russell Square in central London last night.

:02:28. > :02:29.Police used a Taser to arrest the man who later received

:02:30. > :02:33.He's now in custody at a south London police station.

:02:34. > :02:35.Two victims are still in hospital while three others

:02:36. > :02:41.The Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday to deal

:02:42. > :02:51.This eye witness describes what he saw as the man was detained.

:02:52. > :02:54.What I heard first was the sirens, and then I saw flashing lights,

:02:55. > :02:56.which is quite unusual because this is a quiet street, right?

:02:57. > :02:59.Then I opened the window and I heard people screaming,

:03:00. > :03:05.And this man, the guy, the suspect, was running this way.

:03:06. > :03:11.And three or four police officers were running after him.

:03:12. > :03:14.I saw them shooting at him, almost here, can't really remember where.

:03:15. > :03:22.I thought it was a gun, but then I found that it was not a gun.

:03:23. > :03:30.So many police officers just came here, they blocked the street.

:03:31. > :03:37.I actually thought he was dead because he wasn't moving.

:03:38. > :03:42.And then I saw him, like, moving his legs.

:03:43. > :03:45.And he stayed down there for, like, I don't know,

:03:46. > :03:55.And, yeah, at the end they arrested him.

:03:56. > :03:58.There's speculation that the Bank of England may cut interest rates

:03:59. > :04:02.today, for the first time since March 2009.

:04:03. > :04:04.It's anticipated that Mark Carney, the Bank's Governor,

:04:05. > :04:06.will announce a reduction from half a percent, to a quarter

:04:07. > :04:11.Last month the Monetary Policy Committee voted to hold

:04:12. > :04:16.interest rates, despite economists predicting a cut.

:04:17. > :04:18.A rate cut would be intended to boost the UK economy

:04:19. > :04:22.following the vote to leave the European Union.

:04:23. > :04:24.Internet overload has led millions of people in the UK

:04:25. > :04:26.to take a digital detox, according to research

:04:27. > :04:30.Its survey found more than 30% of internet users

:04:31. > :04:33.have taken between a day and a month away from the web.

:04:34. > :04:35.Almost 60% of those surveyed, consider themselves to be

:04:36. > :04:45.Jeremy Corbyn and the former shadow cabinet minister Owen Smith will go

:04:46. > :04:48.head to head tonight in the first Labour leadership debate.

:04:49. > :04:51.It's the first of a series of hustings between the contenders.

:04:52. > :04:53.In a speech this morning, Mr Corbyn is expected

:04:54. > :04:55.to explain how he'll "rebuild and transform Britain",

:04:56. > :05:02.while Mr Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party.

:05:03. > :05:04.The Olympic Games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow,

:05:05. > :05:07.and the Olympic torch has arrived in Rio de Janeiro

:05:08. > :05:11.after a three-month tour of Brazilian cities.

:05:12. > :05:14.There were chaotic scenes when the Torch relay was challenged

:05:15. > :05:16.by hundreds of demonstrators, who are angry at the cost

:05:17. > :05:28.Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to disperse the crowd.

:05:29. > :05:42.Dramatic footage test emerged -- has emerged of the devastation caused by

:05:43. > :05:47.wildfires in Fort McMurray, Alberta. The blaze forced 80,000 residents to

:05:48. > :05:51.leave their homes. Canada's Red Cross says it has raised more than

:05:52. > :05:56.?150 million to help Fort McMurray residents to recover.

:05:57. > :05:58.One of David Cameron's closest political allies has attacked

:05:59. > :06:00.the honours list and said it is a serious type

:06:01. > :06:03.Steve Hilton, one of Cameron's close senior advisers

:06:04. > :06:06.while in Downing Street, said the list was proof that places

:06:07. > :06:09.in the House of Lords could be bought for political donations.

:06:10. > :06:11.He suggested a cap on donations and an elected upper house.

:06:12. > :06:13.The world's tallest moving observation tower

:06:14. > :06:16.The viewing tower, created by the architects of the London Eye,

:06:17. > :06:18.and called the i360, consists of a column

:06:19. > :06:22.with a moving glass viewing pod, which takes customers to the top

:06:23. > :06:30.On a clear day, they can see the Isle of Wight,

:06:31. > :06:44.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:06:45. > :06:50.Lots more coming up, including: Could you live without your digital

:06:51. > :06:53.devices? According to Ofcom well over half of us are hooked to the

:06:54. > :06:55.Internet and it is apparently affecting the way we lead our lives.

:06:56. > :07:05.What do you think? Do get in touch. Now let's get the sport from Hugh,

:07:06. > :07:14.and Andy Murray's year gets better He says he was left speechless by

:07:15. > :07:17.being asked to become Great Britain's flag bearer at the

:07:18. > :07:21.Olympics opening ceremony. He's competed at the last two Olympic

:07:22. > :07:24.Games, winning gold and silver in London.

:07:25. > :07:26.Sir Bradley Wiggins had turned down the opportunity.

:07:27. > :07:28.Murray says he is honoured to have been selected.

:07:29. > :07:31.I was just getting into bed, about 11:15pm, I was in my pants.

:07:32. > :07:34.Our team leader came and said that the Chef de Mission

:07:35. > :07:41.I jumped out of bed, ran downstairs, Mark

:07:42. > :07:45.gave me the news and I was speechless, really.

:07:46. > :07:57.I was repeating myself, I think, a lot, saying how honoured I was.

:07:58. > :08:07.bowled out for 297 on day one of them at test against Pakistan at

:08:08. > :08:12.Edgbaston. The result could be crucial. It is currently at 1-1.

:08:13. > :08:16.Patrick is at the ground. I guess Pakistan would be more pleased but

:08:17. > :08:21.we won't know where it stands until they have batted, as well.

:08:22. > :08:24.Yes, one of the unwritten rules of Test cricket is do not judge a score

:08:25. > :08:30.too much until you've seen both sides battled the same pitch. When

:08:31. > :08:36.we left yesterday 297 all out seemed below par. But this could be a

:08:37. > :08:39.useful total. It was a very good day for Sohail Khan, the Pakistan

:08:40. > :08:44.bowler, back in the test side for the first time in nearly five years.

:08:45. > :08:48.He took 5-96, including some special deliveries to get rid of the England

:08:49. > :08:54.top order. There were some mistakes from individual batsmen. That is

:08:55. > :08:57.certainly what Pakistan would have decided to bowl first. The team

:08:58. > :09:01.batting first don't have a good record here. The fact England have

:09:02. > :09:07.any respectability is down to Gary Ballance who made a very careful 70.

:09:08. > :09:12.He admitted in his press conference yesterday that England found batting

:09:13. > :09:16.tricky. They've got a good, balanced attack in this game. A good attack

:09:17. > :09:21.overall. They bowled well on a pitch that offered a bit of, you know,

:09:22. > :09:24.sideways movement for them. It was topped the whole day. It felt like

:09:25. > :09:31.they were always in the game. It kept you honest. I think we probably

:09:32. > :09:35.have a powerful score. The weather in Salford hasn't been great. I can

:09:36. > :09:40.see a patch of blue sky behind you. What will it be like in Edgbaston,

:09:41. > :09:45.and who would it suit? Positively tropical at the moment.

:09:46. > :09:48.Some showers are lurking. There is a strong breeze which will push them

:09:49. > :09:53.through. That may create some disruptions. We got lucky yesterday

:09:54. > :09:57.even though there was some rain. Tomorrow looks more settled. If it

:09:58. > :10:01.becomes more overcast you feel it would suit the inswinger seam

:10:02. > :10:04.bowlers of England. Chris Woakes especially. He made his debut here

:10:05. > :10:07.for Warwickshire ten weeks ago to the day. Today might be his day.

:10:08. > :10:27.Thanks very much. World heavyweight champion

:10:28. > :10:39.Tyson Fury faces a UK anti tribunal alleging he has tested

:10:40. > :10:40.positive He was provisionally

:10:41. > :10:42.suspended in June. That has been lifted

:10:43. > :10:44.pending his hearing. His cousin and fellow boxer

:10:45. > :10:46.has also been charged, Celtic are through to

:10:47. > :10:55.the Champions League play-offs They needed a last-minute penalty

:10:56. > :10:58.against the Kazakhstan side Meanwhile, Wayne Rooney celebrated

:10:59. > :11:02.12 years at Manchester United last night with a testimonial

:11:03. > :11:04.against his former club Everton. He sat with his youngest son,

:11:05. > :11:12.who looks ready for a spot A woman in her 60s has been killed

:11:13. > :11:15.in two people remain in hospital after a night attack in central

:11:16. > :11:17.London. Police were called to Russell Square at 1030 last night.

:11:18. > :11:21.The suspected attacker, 19, was tasered at the scene and has been

:11:22. > :11:25.arrested on suspicion of murder. Scotland Yard says mental health was

:11:26. > :11:29.a significant factor but terrorism remains a line of enquiry. Our

:11:30. > :11:35.correspondent is in Russell Square, central London. This line from

:11:36. > :11:39.police that they are looking at mental health but not ruling out

:11:40. > :11:43.terrorism. No, although I think it is

:11:44. > :11:48.potentially significant in this latest statement we've had. They are

:11:49. > :11:52.not mentioning terrorism at all. They say the focus of their enquirer

:11:53. > :11:56.is the issue of mental health. They are keeping an open mind as to what

:11:57. > :12:00.the motive was. No mention of the word terrorism in the latest

:12:01. > :12:04.statement from the police. That was what they were saying earlier, that

:12:05. > :12:09.was something they were looking at. At the moment the investigation is

:12:10. > :12:13.still being looked at by the homicide squad and the Metropolitan

:12:14. > :12:16.Police but they have support from counterterrorism officers, as well.

:12:17. > :12:21.Any more details on the conditions of the people who have been injured?

:12:22. > :12:26.Not really, no, but we do know now that initially five people were

:12:27. > :12:32.taken to hospital. They had injuries. Three of them have now

:12:33. > :12:37.been discharged. Obviously their injuries were not significant. But

:12:38. > :12:40.still two are in hospital receiving treatment.

:12:41. > :12:43.This comes one day after we saw the Metropolitan Police and the London

:12:44. > :12:46.Mayor saying we will have more armed officers on the streets of London to

:12:47. > :12:51.protect people and make people feel safe.

:12:52. > :12:56.That's right. Already it's been announced that there will be a

:12:57. > :13:02.greater presence of police here on the streets of London. Some of whom

:13:03. > :13:06.will be armed. They have ramped up the police presence after this

:13:07. > :13:09.attack. There was a huge demonstration yesterday by police of

:13:10. > :13:14.these armed officers who are going to be around in a much more visible

:13:15. > :13:18.form on the streets because of the concern about some kind of terrorist

:13:19. > :13:22.attack. We know that the threat level remains very high, it is at

:13:23. > :13:28.severe. A lot of very senior police officials have been talking about

:13:29. > :13:33.the situation, that it is a question of when, not if and they are on high

:13:34. > :13:38.alert. Thanks. Could you live without the

:13:39. > :13:44.Internet or social media? A new survey suggests 15 million people in

:13:45. > :13:47.the UK have done a digital detox. How would you cope?

:13:48. > :13:50.The Bank of England's monetary policy committee is expected to

:13:51. > :13:54.announce an interest rate cut this lunchtime. It will be for the first

:13:55. > :14:00.time since 2009. It is expected to move by a quarter of a percentage

:14:01. > :14:04.point to 0.25%. Mark Carney has hinted at the move since the Brexit

:14:05. > :14:08.referendum result. Today's decision will be a reflection of how the

:14:09. > :14:10.economy is faring so we sent our reporter out to find out how people

:14:11. > :14:15.are feeling about their finances. Why do you feel so

:14:16. > :14:19.confident at the moment? Well, I think that our

:14:20. > :14:21.new Prime Minister is very confident that she will

:14:22. > :14:23.get us the best deal. I'm reading headlines

:14:24. > :14:27.in the newspapers, and basically they are all sort of saying that

:14:28. > :14:30.people are clamouring to do trade First-time buyers, can't even

:14:31. > :14:47.save to buy a house. So you're not very confident

:14:48. > :14:49.at the moment? Has the fact that we voted to leave

:14:50. > :14:53.Europe, has that changed Well, I haven't seen

:14:54. > :14:56.any changes at the moment, but I think

:14:57. > :15:02.it's going to happen. -- moment, but I think

:15:03. > :15:08.it's a good thing There's quite a lot of jobs

:15:09. > :15:11.going round at the moment, opening Obviously there are new houses

:15:12. > :15:15.and things like that coming in. I'm a little unsure

:15:16. > :15:18.about what's going to happen after Brexit happening

:15:19. > :15:20.and everything. And my future, because I'm only

:15:21. > :15:23.young and I need to save up I'm worrying I won't be able

:15:24. > :15:37.to afford a mortgage. Let's talk with four people who have

:15:38. > :15:43.different perspectives on whether an interest rate cut would be good or

:15:44. > :15:46.bad. Anthony Gold, 73, owns two businesses in London. Tony Horne has

:15:47. > :15:50.an international web development company and is worried about how the

:15:51. > :15:55.interest rate cut could affect sterling. The de Witt is a financial

:15:56. > :15:58.planner and a mother of two. A 19-year-old Anna Peters is a

:15:59. > :16:03.university student with loans that may be helped by an interest rate

:16:04. > :16:04.cut. Thank you for coming in. Who thinks an interest rate cut is a

:16:05. > :16:26.good idea? No one. I don't know about the rest of them,

:16:27. > :16:32.but the cuts they are proposing is not going to have much of an impact,

:16:33. > :16:39.I feel. You are a student, do you have loans? Firstly I think it might

:16:40. > :16:44.be OK, for loans, the interest rate will make our loans cheaper. I think

:16:45. > :16:50.in the short term it's a good thing. Out of interest, do you know how

:16:51. > :16:55.much cheaper? Not much cheaper. Not sure. It's negligible. Personally I

:16:56. > :17:00.don't think it's going to make much of a difference. The only people

:17:01. > :17:06.affected will be those with variable rate mortgages right now. Somebody

:17:07. > :17:11.with a ?200,000 mortgage will see their interest rate cut by half,

:17:12. > :17:15.paying 1000 paying 500, that's quite a big difference. What I say to my

:17:16. > :17:20.clients is that now is a really good time to build up that emergency fund

:17:21. > :17:25.you haven't been able to do so far. Not a time to go crazy or make major

:17:26. > :17:30.changes, but maybe a time to really look at your family budget. You are

:17:31. > :17:34.saying to save, but that's exactly what Mark Carney doesn't want to

:17:35. > :17:38.hear. He once does to spend that money. I know, but there hasn't

:17:39. > :17:42.really been an incentive for everyday people to save, interest

:17:43. > :17:46.rates have been so low. We can't rely on anything we get from our

:17:47. > :17:53.savings. But it's important to have a emergency buffer for all families,

:17:54. > :17:57.have that extra cash. Take it that we will not get a return, but we

:17:58. > :18:02.need it there as a buffer to protect us when we need access to cash.

:18:03. > :18:08.Anthony, what about you as a businessman? It doesn't make a lot

:18:09. > :18:13.of difference as a businessman. The big banks are very reluctant to lend

:18:14. > :18:17.to business. That's the problem, not the interest rate. A quarter of a

:18:18. > :18:22.percent, they are probably charging ten or 15% anyway. Going down to 14

:18:23. > :18:26.and a half percent, will it make any difference? But if it increases

:18:27. > :18:31.confidence in people feel happier, then that's good. My own business is

:18:32. > :18:36.doing very well because fortunately for me, I deal in dollars and euro

:18:37. > :18:40.so we bring in much more money. You are laughing at the moment. This is

:18:41. > :18:45.the thing, there are winners and losers in everything. An interest

:18:46. > :18:52.rate cut, if you pay 20% for your credit card interest, if it goes

:18:53. > :18:56.down to 19.75, will it make you spend more? I don't think it will.

:18:57. > :19:01.My guess is it's a confidence builder and makes you realise

:19:02. > :19:06.somebody is trying to do something rather than cut the percentage

:19:07. > :19:10.itself. The buzzword at the moment is stability, after Brexit and the

:19:11. > :19:13.pound tanking and problems on the stock market, although they have

:19:14. > :19:19.recovered a little bit, people need stability and confidence. I think

:19:20. > :19:25.Tony made a valid point earlier. For many people, and interest rate cut

:19:26. > :19:29.might bring some economic stability but without the political stability

:19:30. > :19:33.that everyday people need to feel, there will not be much of a change.

:19:34. > :19:37.We need to feel that the people at the helm know what they are doing.

:19:38. > :19:43.At the moment many people feel that isn't the case. The government, we

:19:44. > :19:49.have a new Chancellor of the X to who knows what's going to happen.

:19:50. > :19:57.Well! -- Chancellor of the Exchequer. She gets along with

:19:58. > :20:01.Angela Merkel which is nice. We are spending in other markets right now,

:20:02. > :20:05.like Germany, and also the US next year. For us, one of the major

:20:06. > :20:11.issues will be the currency exchange rate. For the last few months since

:20:12. > :20:18.Brexit, it has taken wild swings either way. I've long as politically

:20:19. > :20:22.we don't know what is happening for certain, and until there are more

:20:23. > :20:27.announcements, it's difficult to plan ahead. -- as long as. The

:20:28. > :20:30.argument is that the governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, would

:20:31. > :20:35.be criticised if he didn't do anything. That's what worries me.

:20:36. > :20:40.Confidence is a very delicate flower. If people keep on about doom

:20:41. > :20:45.and gloom, you can talk yourself into a recession. Equally, if you

:20:46. > :20:49.are bullish and upbeat, as businessmen should be, it's an

:20:50. > :20:54.opportunity, it won't be immediate, it might be a couple of years away,

:20:55. > :20:57.but plan and allow for whatever the deal might be, and it should be an

:20:58. > :21:01.opportunity because it's not business as usual. If you think

:21:02. > :21:08.about it, the underlying fundamentals are great. Before

:21:09. > :21:12.Brexit we were on an upward hill. Just because of Brexit, doesn't mean

:21:13. > :21:16.the underlying fundamentals will change, but people don't seem to

:21:17. > :21:21.realise that. Unemployment has come down sharper than I remember for

:21:22. > :21:25.years. My view is that businesses have to take advantage of this and

:21:26. > :21:31.not sit back and say, this is bad news, what do I do? You have to look

:21:32. > :21:36.at your opportunities. We are often the number one story in the US,

:21:37. > :21:43.Japan, Australia. I have generated business in these countries and they

:21:44. > :21:50.want to speak to us in the UK. All news is good news, basically. You

:21:51. > :21:54.just get on with it. As business owners we are quite used to

:21:55. > :22:00.uncertainty. I think that everyday people this is an uncomfortable

:22:01. > :22:05.situation to be in. Maybe if we all just realised that it's OK to be

:22:06. > :22:09.uncertain, we can still plan, still do the best we can for our families

:22:10. > :22:13.and our family budget. If there is an interest-rate cut, will it make

:22:14. > :22:19.that much difference for us? It shouldn't stop us doing anything. Do

:22:20. > :22:23.you worry about your future? You are young, at university with your whole

:22:24. > :22:29.life ahead of you. But times. Definitely. The interest rate cut is

:22:30. > :22:32.not very much, but it's worrying about whether the economy will

:22:33. > :22:37.improve and what condition it will be in when we graduate. -- but

:22:38. > :22:40.uncertain times. That's the worry for young people coming into the

:22:41. > :22:46.world. And I want to get into finance! At least you'll know lots

:22:47. > :22:52.about it by the time you get out. Anthony, you said it would encourage

:22:53. > :22:57.lending. Presumably that will help people start businesses. That's

:22:58. > :23:00.exactly what the economy needs, and to help business expand if money is

:23:01. > :23:04.cheaper and they can get hold of it. If you can get hold of it is the

:23:05. > :23:08.point. The banks are very clever, they say they are trying to lend to

:23:09. > :23:13.small businesses and small businesses don't take them up. But

:23:14. > :23:18.the reason is, they have so many conditions. They want your home as a

:23:19. > :23:24.surety. That's not a business loan, it's a personal loan. Consequently,

:23:25. > :23:28.they can say to the Bank of England that they have tried to lend and

:23:29. > :23:35.businesses are not taking it up. The reason is the conditions they are

:23:36. > :23:39.prepared to lend on. So you want the political landscape to change and

:23:40. > :23:44.that would make a huge difference. Yes, the biggest difference the Bank

:23:45. > :23:47.of England could make would get more Challenger banks working to the

:23:48. > :23:52.benefit of small businesses. But they sat on by the monopolies held

:23:53. > :23:59.by the big four. Thank you for coming in. Grateful for having the

:24:00. > :24:03.conversation. We have been looking back at the riots five years ago

:24:04. > :24:08.across England that were triggered by the shooting dead by police of

:24:09. > :24:12.Mark Duggan at Tottenham in London. Earlier I spoke to Marcus, who grew

:24:13. > :24:16.up with Mark Duggan, and he spoke about the circumstances surrounding

:24:17. > :24:22.his friend 's death. The day that Mark got shot, no police liaison

:24:23. > :24:27.came to the family household to report his death. Friday, we didn't

:24:28. > :24:30.hear anything. No answers as to why he was shot. There was an

:24:31. > :24:35.announcement made by the family that we would go to the police station on

:24:36. > :24:39.Saturday to demand answers because nobody had come to the family. We

:24:40. > :24:44.wanted to find out why he had been shot. Saturday, we went to the

:24:45. > :24:50.police station. The mother of Mark's kids went inside to find out what

:24:51. > :24:54.was going on. She was asked to wait about an hour for the Police

:24:55. > :24:58.Commissioner or somebody to come and speak to her. Six hours later and

:24:59. > :25:03.officer came out and said that the Commissioner couldn't make it, and

:25:04. > :25:06.to clear the streets. We were outside the police station, and they

:25:07. > :25:15.locked the door and left us on the streets. We were out there with our

:25:16. > :25:22.mothers, Mark's mother was out there, children, family members. We

:25:23. > :25:34.felt humiliated, disrespected. We just felt... Yeah, like disregarded

:25:35. > :25:37.as nobody. I went into my own zone. The crowd around didn't expect what

:25:38. > :25:43.was going to happen next. I walked away from everybody. There was a

:25:44. > :25:51.police car parked on a side road. So I ended up smashing it up, taking

:25:52. > :25:56.out my frustration on the car. And I think from that initial act,

:25:57. > :26:00.everything kind of escalated from there. The official police watchdog

:26:01. > :26:04.investigated the circumstances surrounding Mark Durkan's death and

:26:05. > :26:09.cleared the officers involved of any wrongdoing. After that report was

:26:10. > :26:10.released in 2013, the Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan

:26:11. > :26:30.Police said in a statement... Still to come, we will hear from

:26:31. > :26:34.Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has in Vail what he's calling his blueprint

:26:35. > :26:42.to rebuild Britain. He will be speaking live in east London. And

:26:43. > :26:46.could you live without the Internet and social media? A new survey

:26:47. > :26:54.suggests 15 million people in the UK have done a digital detox. How would

:26:55. > :26:58.you cope? Dave has got in touch, he says he took a break from social

:26:59. > :27:02.media for a day and was reported as a missing person. Jules says it's

:27:03. > :27:08.important for your health and families to take a break. Get in

:27:09. > :27:13.touch with your experiences. We can get the news with Julian in the BBC

:27:14. > :27:17.newsroom. A 19-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder

:27:18. > :27:21.after a woman in her 60s was killed and five people were injured in a

:27:22. > :27:25.knife attack in Russell Square in central London last night. Police

:27:26. > :27:29.used a Taser to arrest the man who later received treatment in

:27:30. > :27:33.hospital. He is now in custody at a south London police station. Two

:27:34. > :27:37.victims are still in hospital while three others have been discharged.

:27:38. > :27:41.Mayor of London Sadiq Khan is cutting short his holiday to deal

:27:42. > :27:47.with the response to the attack. There is speculation the Bank of

:27:48. > :27:49.England might cut interest rates today for the first time since March

:27:50. > :27:54.2000 nine. It is anticipated Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of

:27:55. > :27:59.England, would reduce interest rates from half a percent to a quarter of

:28:00. > :28:06.a percent at noon. Last month economists predicted a cut at the

:28:07. > :28:15.monetary policy committee did not make any. Millions of people in the

:28:16. > :28:21.UK are taking a digital peacock detox according to Ofcom. People

:28:22. > :28:26.have taken between a day and a month away from the web. About 60% of

:28:27. > :28:29.those surveyed consider themselves to be hooked on devices. Jeremy

:28:30. > :28:33.Corbyn and former Shadow Cabinet Minister Owen Smith will go

:28:34. > :28:38.head-to-head tonight in a Labour leadership debate, the first of a

:28:39. > :28:42.series of hustings between the contenders. Mr Corbyn will explain

:28:43. > :28:46.in a speech how he intends to rebuild and transform Britain. Owen

:28:47. > :28:49.Smith is expected to say that only he can unite the party. The Olympic

:28:50. > :28:54.games opening ceremony takes place tomorrow with the Olympic torch

:28:55. > :28:59.arriving in Rio de Janeiro after a three-week tour of Brazil's cities.

:29:00. > :29:05.The torch was challenged by hundreds of demonstrated angry at the cost of

:29:06. > :29:09.hosting the games. Riot police used tear gas and pepper spray to

:29:10. > :29:13.disperse the crowd. Dramatic footage has emerged of the devastation

:29:14. > :29:18.caused by a wildfire in Canada earlier this year. The aerial drone

:29:19. > :29:23.footage provides an up close look at the devastation in Fort McMurray,

:29:24. > :29:27.Alberta. The blaze forced around 80,000 residents to leave their

:29:28. > :29:33.homes. The Canada Red Cross says it's raised around ?150 million to

:29:34. > :29:39.help residents to recover. The world's tallest moving observation

:29:40. > :29:44.tower opens today in Brighton. The viewing tower, created by the

:29:45. > :29:48.architects of the London eye, consists of a column with a moving

:29:49. > :29:53.glass viewing pod that takes visitors to the top of the 137 metre

:29:54. > :29:57.structure. On a clear day they can see the Isle of Wight, more than 40

:29:58. > :30:03.miles away. That's the summary of the latest news. Join me on BBC

:30:04. > :30:10.newsroom live from 11am. Time for some sport. The main headlines

:30:11. > :30:14.today, Andy Murray says he let it out of bed in his underpants to

:30:15. > :30:18.learn he would be great Britain's flag bearer in Friday's Olympic

:30:19. > :30:23.opening ceremony in Rio. He says he's humbled and extremely proud to

:30:24. > :30:28.carry the flag. Sports climbing is one of five new sports approved for

:30:29. > :30:32.the next Olympic Games in Tokyo in four years' time. Skateboarding,

:30:33. > :30:37.surfing, karate, baseball and softball have also been brought in

:30:38. > :30:44.for 2020. In cricket, England were bowled out for 297 of the first day

:30:45. > :30:46.of the third test against Pakistan at Edgbaston. Batsman Gary Ballance

:30:47. > :30:50.says the team are relatively happy ahead of their first chance of a

:30:51. > :30:55.bowl in around half an hour. World Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury will

:30:56. > :30:59.face a UK anti-doping tribunal after he was charged over the alleged

:31:00. > :31:05.presence of a banned substance, reportedly nandrolone, in tests

:31:06. > :31:08.taken early in 2013. He denies any wrongdoing. New signing Mousa

:31:09. > :31:15.Dembele scored an injury time penalty to send Celtic into the

:31:16. > :31:23.Champions League play-off round, beating Astana 3-2 in Glasgow.

:31:24. > :31:30.Are you addicted to the Internet, social media and gaming? According

:31:31. > :31:34.to Ofcom, which oversees the communications industry, well over

:31:35. > :31:41.half of us are hooked our digital devices. On average, you adults

:31:42. > :31:42.spend an entire day on the Internet, going online more than 50 times a

:31:43. > :31:56.day. -- UK adults. A study of 2000 adults and 500

:31:57. > :32:00.teenagers felt reliance on the Internet is affecting people's

:32:01. > :32:04.personal and working lives, with many feeling we need to step away

:32:05. > :32:10.from anything digital and take back our lives. What can be done to curb

:32:11. > :32:14.the digital addiction? Let's talk to the principal academic and imputing

:32:15. > :32:23.and head of research into digital addiction at Bournemouth University.

:32:24. > :32:27.This sounds amazing, what did you do, you went away somewhere? In

:32:28. > :32:34.April I decided I would book myself into a digital detoxing weekend. We

:32:35. > :32:39.went to Norfolk for the weekend. We arrived at Norwich station, went

:32:40. > :32:45.into a car, it wake cottage where there is no electricity, no running

:32:46. > :32:49.water, and we had to hand in all of our phones. Fabulous, literally a

:32:50. > :32:54.box going around. Did you feel you couldn't be trusted? You thought,

:32:55. > :32:59.I'm at home, I will put my phone to the site of the weekend. Absolutely.

:33:00. > :33:02.In theory it was nice, but I wanted to do it properly. Meet some people

:33:03. > :33:08.and get to know them on a different level. I will bring Ryan in now. I

:33:09. > :33:12.had a minor incident with a washing machine and a mobile phone a few

:33:13. > :33:16.weeks ago and it didn't work. For ten days it didn't work. The first

:33:17. > :33:20.couple of days I was concerned, I almost e-mailed my friends to tell

:33:21. > :33:25.them, if you need me, but then it was liberating and I didn't want my

:33:26. > :33:31.phone back. Addiction is really about the time you spend not using

:33:32. > :33:34.it at all. Internet and digital devices are almost like a washing

:33:35. > :33:43.machine, almost like electricity. You need it all the time. What we

:33:44. > :33:46.care about is dependency. You can imagine somebody who is going to

:33:47. > :33:52.sleep but thinking about their Facebook profile and how many likes

:33:53. > :33:59.they get, and activity on Twitter, and so on. It is the dependency that

:34:00. > :34:03.matters, really. I am a man with two junket, it drives me mad when I see

:34:04. > :34:08.mums on their phone all the time, not gain attention to their kids.

:34:09. > :34:19.-- I am a mum with two young kids. In the studies we've done we've seen

:34:20. > :34:27.people who care about their online identity more than their personal

:34:28. > :34:31.identity. They develop another character. They start to get a

:34:32. > :34:37.complex. They care more about their online presence than personal

:34:38. > :34:42.presence. It could have harmful consequences. Like gamers, gaining

:34:43. > :34:46.after a couple of days nonstop, and being attached to much to the game,

:34:47. > :34:56.they forget about health, hygiene, and so on. -- gaming. There was

:34:57. > :35:00.another example and that is Pokemon Go. They get so immersed into it

:35:01. > :35:07.that they go to risky places and they do something that is called

:35:08. > :35:10.impaired decision-making. I was reading yesterday about the Japanese

:35:11. > :35:18.gymnast who has gone to reopen. He is into Pokemon Go and he spent

:35:19. > :35:22.thousands of pounds on roaming charges. What happened, was there a

:35:23. > :35:28.moment when you said I need to put this down? Yeah, I work for a

:35:29. > :35:32.technology company. We are in the start-up phase. Being online is

:35:33. > :35:37.important for us. It got to a point in the evenings where I was feeling

:35:38. > :35:39.anxious about e-mails, feeling I had to react to them and it got to a

:35:40. > :35:45.point where friends were thinking that I need to do something about

:35:46. > :35:48.it. I looked into digital detoxing. I found this course. I thought it

:35:49. > :35:51.would be a good idea of teaching myself to put the phone down in the

:35:52. > :35:58.evening and enjoy time with friends and things like that. Doctor Ali was

:35:59. > :36:01.talking about people worrying about their Facebook profile. But you are

:36:02. > :36:05.talking about what many people feel, which is a work pressure. You go

:36:06. > :36:09.home from work, you have your phone can you get the e-mails at night and

:36:10. > :36:13.you feel you need to respond. Yes, it is about knowing what to respond

:36:14. > :36:22.to. I know in France they are thinking about this. Young

:36:23. > :36:27.professionals are feeling pressured about being reactive and being the

:36:28. > :36:31.best in the workplace. -- I know in France they are thinking about

:36:32. > :36:36.banning this. My company has been on a digital detox. I recommended it

:36:37. > :36:42.for everyone and they thoroughly enjoyed it. We thought a lot about

:36:43. > :36:48.contacting each other, learning about what is urgent and what isn't.

:36:49. > :36:51.Have you gone back to bad habits? Some, little bit, but I've stopped

:36:52. > :36:55.looking at my phone before going to bed. The nice thing about the

:36:56. > :36:59.digital detox is we didn't have watches. You didn't know what the

:37:00. > :37:06.timeous. You didn't reach your phone and scroll for half an hour instead

:37:07. > :37:09.of getting some good sleep. I wanted to ask that, I know AQ couples who

:37:10. > :37:16.will sit next to each other in bed scrolling through their phones. -- I

:37:17. > :37:24.know a view. It is badly your sleep and your relationship as well, isn't

:37:25. > :37:35.it? -- a few couples. Some people think it is a new lifestyle. What we

:37:36. > :37:40.care about is a cognitive load. Students are checking Twitter and

:37:41. > :37:46.Facebook. They say they are doing it in two seconds but it is costing

:37:47. > :37:54.them mentally and cognitively a lot. It is really disturbing. The digital

:37:55. > :37:57.media and the e-mail and communications systems these days

:37:58. > :38:04.are designed to keep you connected. They have not designed it in a way

:38:05. > :38:12.to help the preoccupation. When you go off grid, or off-line, you know

:38:13. > :38:17.that others know that you off-line and so you shouldn't have to

:38:18. > :38:25.respond. -- others know that you are off-line. You don't see this very

:38:26. > :38:29.often in the current software industry practice. Some people might

:38:30. > :38:33.think, I might have an issue, maybe I should bring it back a bit. What

:38:34. > :38:39.would be your tips on gently regulating yourself? There is

:38:40. > :38:44.self-regulation systems. Specify some goals for yourself in

:38:45. > :38:47.regulating your life in the first instance. Nobody is addicted to

:38:48. > :38:51.mobile phones because they like them, they like and what is in them.

:38:52. > :38:57.And what is in the social network and what is in the games. There are

:38:58. > :39:02.underlying issues. Those should be solved first. Otherwise a digital

:39:03. > :39:05.detox isn't going to be effective and it won't last. If people are

:39:06. > :39:10.addicted to social networks they might have a problem in real life,

:39:11. > :39:14.they have relation breakdowns, depression, whatever, they try to

:39:15. > :39:21.compensate by doing it online. The first thing is to look at the

:39:22. > :39:29.issues, regulate their Way of thinking of digital media. Otherwise

:39:30. > :39:33.a digital detox white -- will not last. Many comments coming in. Far

:39:34. > :39:38.better to pick up a phone, write a letter, send a birthday card, talk

:39:39. > :39:42.face-to-face. It's important to get a break from social media. I took a

:39:43. > :39:46.break for a week and it was much better. Emily says all of them try

:39:47. > :39:51.digital detox is, it never lasts more than an hour. Heidi says

:39:52. > :39:58.digital detox needs social media. I spent most of my time alone, it is

:39:59. > :40:03.my link to the rest of humanity, it is my lifeline. When he went away on

:40:04. > :40:07.your digital detox did you suddenly notice things? When I lost my phone

:40:08. > :40:13.I realise that when I walked places I noticed things, instead of just

:40:14. > :40:18.checking my phone, I noticed birds singing covered trees, flowers,

:40:19. > :40:21.without being cliche you are more aware aren't you? The first hour was

:40:22. > :40:25.difficult, but itching feeling of going to your phone. You see

:40:26. > :40:27.something lovely and you want to take a photo and put it on

:40:28. > :40:32.Instagram. Then you realise you cannot share it. But then you

:40:33. > :40:38.realise it is quite nice, it is something personal to experience

:40:39. > :40:43.with friends I've just met. There was lots of wildlife around, as

:40:44. > :40:47.well. We did some life drawing, as well, which is good. You do

:40:48. > :40:57.appreciate more the experiences when you don't have social media. I was

:40:58. > :41:01.more present. Thank you both. Thank you for sharing your thoughts

:41:02. > :41:05.online, as well. Later on we are expecting to hear from Labour leader

:41:06. > :41:10.Jeremy Corbyn. He's going to be making an announcement in east

:41:11. > :41:14.London. He is fighting to remain leader of the Labour Party. We were

:41:15. > :41:19.expecting it around now, but it is running late, so we will bring it to

:41:20. > :41:22.you just as soon as it happens. A 19-year-old man is being held at a

:41:23. > :41:25.police station on suspicion of murder after a woman was killed in a

:41:26. > :41:31.knife attack in central London last night. Five other people were hurt,

:41:32. > :41:35.two of them are still in hospital. Police say they are focusing on

:41:36. > :41:38.mental health issues but counterterrorism officers are

:41:39. > :41:43.involved in the enquiry. We can now hear more from an eyewitness who was

:41:44. > :41:46.in the area at the time. I was in the hotel room. I heard

:41:47. > :41:52.some commotion down the street, some voices. I looked out the window. I

:41:53. > :41:56.saw a black man who was running down the street. As he was running down

:41:57. > :42:02.the street he was turning to see if the police were coming close. I

:42:03. > :42:05.could hear the policeman screaming stop, don't move, don't go any

:42:06. > :42:11.further, just stay where you are. He turned round and continued running.

:42:12. > :42:16.He wasn't prepared to stop. The next thing I knew they had gone out of my

:42:17. > :42:22.sight. Then police cars and everything came straight down. I

:42:23. > :42:26.believe they obtained him here. Was the man who was being chased

:42:27. > :42:32.carrying anything? Yes, he was carrying a knife in his hand, and he

:42:33. > :42:36.had blood on his hands. As he turned to look at the police he actually

:42:37. > :42:39.turned in my direction to where I was at the window and that was to

:42:40. > :42:43.the left-hand side. But he was continuing to run as he was checking

:42:44. > :42:48.back to see how far the police were coming. Did you see whether

:42:49. > :42:54.apprehended him? No, they had gone out of my vision at that point. --

:42:55. > :42:58.when they apprehended him. I heard the Taser. I heard a little scream

:42:59. > :43:03.and then it went silent. That is what I opened the window, looked

:43:04. > :43:08.down, and by this point there were some different police cars etc who

:43:09. > :43:12.had arrived at the scene. Sadiq Khan, who is cutting short his

:43:13. > :43:16.holiday and returning to London, has urged residents to remain calm and

:43:17. > :43:20.they didn't. He said the safety of all Londoners is my number one

:43:21. > :43:24.priority and that we all have a vital role to play as eyes and ears

:43:25. > :43:30.for our police and security services and in helping to ensure London is

:43:31. > :43:34.protected. Our correspondent is outside the Metropolitan Police

:43:35. > :43:38.headquarters at Scotland Yard. We were speaking earlier to Richard

:43:39. > :43:42.Galpin. He said there seems to be a great emphasis now on the mental

:43:43. > :43:44.health issues here rather than a link to terrorism, is that what you

:43:45. > :43:51.are hearing? Indeed it is. That a suspect is now

:43:52. > :44:00.in police custody at a south London police station. The Metropolitan

:44:01. > :44:03.Police's homicide squad is investigating and they are supported

:44:04. > :44:06.by counterterrorism officers. We understand armed police were on the

:44:07. > :44:12.scene of the attack last night within five minutes of getting the

:44:13. > :44:16.call. They tasered the suspect. No gunshots were fired. We know five

:44:17. > :44:23.people were injured and very sadly a woman in her 60s lost her life.

:44:24. > :44:26.There was an unusual move, the Met police had a press conference in the

:44:27. > :44:35.early hours of this morning. The Assistant Commissioner, Mark Rowley,

:44:36. > :44:38.talked about whether the suspect did have mental health problems. That

:44:39. > :44:42.was certainly the strongest line of enquiry. He said they were not

:44:43. > :44:48.ruling out links to terrorism at the time. He was urging Londoners to be

:44:49. > :44:53.alert and to stay vigilant. He mentioned about the extra armed

:44:54. > :44:58.police patrols, which were now going to be on the streets. As we heard

:44:59. > :45:01.yesterday he met Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe and the London Mayor,

:45:02. > :45:07.Sadiq Khan, and they announced there would be an increased number of

:45:08. > :45:12.armed officers in the capital from 600 to 2800. As well as an extra 900

:45:13. > :45:16.armed officers that will be on patrol in the rest of England and

:45:17. > :45:20.Wales. That would happen over the next couple of years. We are waiting

:45:21. > :45:24.to hear from the Met police to find out any more information. The main

:45:25. > :45:28.things they want to ascertain is the motive behind this.

:45:29. > :45:34.Do we have any more news on the injuries?

:45:35. > :45:42.We understand a couple of people of those five are still in hospital.

:45:43. > :45:46.Three have been discharged. No more yet on their injuries. The main

:45:47. > :45:51.thing at the moment is interviewing the suspect and trying to find out

:45:52. > :45:55.what was behind the attack, what was going through his mind and whether

:45:56. > :46:01.mental health has a significant part to play. Thank you for speaking to

:46:02. > :46:05.us from Scotland Yard. There may not have been an opening ceremony yet

:46:06. > :46:09.but the Olympic Games are officially underway with the women's football

:46:10. > :46:15.starting last night, and today is the men's turn. Tomorrow is the main

:46:16. > :46:20.event with Wimbledon champion Andy Murray flying the flag for Great

:46:21. > :46:21.Britain, the opening ceremony will be watched by an audience of

:46:22. > :46:26.billions. # Don't tell the gods

:46:27. > :46:29.I left the mess. More than seven years

:46:30. > :46:34.after London was announced as the Olympic venue,

:46:35. > :46:37.the eyes of the world will once # He said, go dry your eyes

:46:38. > :46:44.and live your life... Thousands of competitors

:46:45. > :46:47.are here to take part in Billions of people around the globe

:46:48. > :46:52.are preparing to tune in to follow In the next two weeks,

:46:53. > :47:00.we will show all that has made London one of the greatest cities

:47:01. > :47:03.in the world. For the athletes gathered here

:47:04. > :47:17.on the eve of this great endeavour, faster, to jump higher,

:47:18. > :47:29.to be stronger. # But we're dancing with the demons

:47:30. > :47:35.in our minds. # Don't say a word,

:47:36. > :47:47.don't make a sound. # I make worms turn

:47:48. > :47:54.into butterflies. # Wake up and turn

:47:55. > :47:57.this world around. # He said, I've never

:47:58. > :48:11.left your side. # When you were lost,

:48:12. > :48:13.I followed right behind. STEVE CRAM: Mo Farah, for

:48:14. > :48:16.Great Britain! ANDY CASTLE: It's a golden

:48:17. > :48:25.triumph for Andy Murray! # There is a truth to sport -

:48:26. > :48:41.a purity, a drama, an intensity. This is what I've dreamt

:48:42. > :48:55.of my entire life. In every Olympic sport,

:48:56. > :48:59.there is all that matters in life. And one day, we will

:49:00. > :49:12.tell our children and our grandchildren that when our time

:49:13. > :49:38.came, we did it right. I get goose bumps looking at that.

:49:39. > :49:42.It takes me right back to London 2012. Before we speak to our

:49:43. > :49:47.Olympians and Olympic super fan, in the next few minutes we expect

:49:48. > :49:51.Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to speak in East London, delivering his ten

:49:52. > :49:54.pledges to rebuild and transform Great Britain. We were expecting in

:49:55. > :50:02.20 minutes ago but he hasn't appeared as yet. When he does, we'll

:50:03. > :50:08.cross over to that. We have a three-time Olympic champion here.

:50:09. > :50:16.You competed. Competing at three Olympics is impressive. A competitor

:50:17. > :50:21.in the individual trampoline event, flying out to Rio in a few hours'

:50:22. > :50:26.time. Jason Moore is an Olympic super fan. Thank you for taking the

:50:27. > :50:31.time to speak to us. Cat, speaking to you first, is this the moment you

:50:32. > :50:36.start getting nervous and excited, when you are about to get on the

:50:37. > :50:40.plane and it's all terribly real? I don't think the nerves are kicking

:50:41. > :50:45.in yet, is the excitement more than anything. I think the nerds will

:50:46. > :50:49.kick in closer to the competition. This is the exciting part, everybody

:50:50. > :50:59.chatting to each other and there is a buzz around. Who are you flying

:51:00. > :51:04.out with? The trampolining team, there are three others, and then our

:51:05. > :51:13.coach is with us as well. You competed in London 2012 as well. I

:51:14. > :51:18.was saying to Goldie during the VT, was it hard when London was so

:51:19. > :51:23.incredible, your home Olympics, and do you worry sometimes that Rio will

:51:24. > :51:27.not be as good, or am I being pessimistic? A lot of people have

:51:28. > :51:30.asked that question. I'm looking at it as a completely different

:51:31. > :51:34.experience and different competition. I've grown and changed

:51:35. > :51:39.a lot in four years, so I'm looking at it as a completely different

:51:40. > :51:43.event, still very special, but there will be things about Rio that I will

:51:44. > :51:47.love that we didn't have in London. We didn't have the build-up, flying

:51:48. > :51:54.away, coming to the airport. There are different bits to it. The big

:51:55. > :51:59.games whether it is home or abroad. We are seeing pictures of you

:52:00. > :52:04.competing. Incredible routine, how long are they? Around 20 seconds. I

:52:05. > :52:13.not surprised, it looks absolutely exhausting. Goldie, you competed at

:52:14. > :52:18.three Olympics. What are you looking forward to at Rio? You competed at

:52:19. > :52:23.London 2012 but didn't make Rio. As an Olympian you are a massive sports

:52:24. > :52:29.fan yourself. Being at the Olympic Games and competing, you miss the

:52:30. > :52:32.Olympic Games in many ways. I'm excited to watch friends, team-mates

:52:33. > :52:36.and all the other sports you miss when you compete in athletics. I was

:52:37. > :52:42.watching something on television the other day with the women's hockey

:52:43. > :52:45.team, and they were saying it was slightly surreal at London 2012,

:52:46. > :52:50.because they would walk along through the Olympic Village and they

:52:51. > :52:54.would suddenly seek Usain Bolt somebody incredibly famous, and they

:52:55. > :53:00.would get giggly and overwhelmed. Did you have any moments like that?

:53:01. > :53:04.There are always a few. Global sporting superstars, Rafa Nadal was

:53:05. > :53:12.getting mobbed by world champions and Olympic champions in some of the

:53:13. > :53:15.smaller sports. As sports fans, as we are as Olympians come you might

:53:16. > :53:19.have competed in different sports as a youngster, and it's incredible to

:53:20. > :53:27.see these global icons of sport. Did you see any, cat? We were lucky,

:53:28. > :53:34.coming back to the village one night, we walked in just as Usain

:53:35. > :53:41.Bolt was walking back after winning the 100 meter gold. I was in the

:53:42. > :53:47.stadium the night Usain Bolt won his 200 metres. It was amazing. Our

:53:48. > :53:50.super fan, Jason. This is quite a commitment to the cause. Are you

:53:51. > :53:56.really going to watch 12 hours of the Olympics each and every day? I'm

:53:57. > :54:02.going to try. It depends on how work goes. I have to try to work around

:54:03. > :54:09.it, but that is the intention. I was going to ask, do you have a job? Yes

:54:10. > :54:15.I have! At work at the moment. I just my work patterns, working

:54:16. > :54:21.through the morning, and watching from lunchtime when it begins. What

:54:22. > :54:26.grabs you about the Olympics? It's all the sports coming together, such

:54:27. > :54:29.a unique event. The whole world coming together. The opportunity to

:54:30. > :54:35.see all those different sports you don't normally see. We see football

:54:36. > :54:39.dominating in this country, but there are so many things we are good

:54:40. > :54:44.at. To see all those sports is a great opportunity. In London 2012 a

:54:45. > :54:50.lot of my friends were talking about dressage. It almost looked like the

:54:51. > :54:57.horses were literally dancing to the music. It's about being exposed to

:54:58. > :55:02.new sports you might not have seen before. It is. You certainly start

:55:03. > :55:07.to learn about the rules and various bits and pieces. In the last Winter

:55:08. > :55:12.Olympics there were sports I didn't know about but you start to learn

:55:13. > :55:18.about them, how they work and the various terminologies. It's good to

:55:19. > :55:22.see other things like badminton, the dressage events. And some of the

:55:23. > :55:26.smaller sports, rowing and things like that, that make it such a great

:55:27. > :55:30.spectacle. Goldie, talking about some of the sports that are

:55:31. > :55:35.included. There is always the discussion when the Olympics comes

:55:36. > :55:38.around, should men's football be there? Golf, a lot of golfers are

:55:39. > :55:44.not going. Should they be there at the Olympics? It should be about the

:55:45. > :55:47.Olympics being the pinnacle of your sport, you should dream about

:55:48. > :55:51.winning the Olympics as an athlete, the pinnacle of your sport and the

:55:52. > :55:56.greatest thing you will do. For me, things like golf, football, perhaps

:55:57. > :56:02.even tennis. Andy Murray will be the flag bearer. If you asked him and he

:56:03. > :56:05.was honest at the start of his career, if you asked what he would

:56:06. > :56:10.rather win, Wimbledon or the Olympics, I would imagine he would

:56:11. > :56:14.say Wimbledon. But it's about taking sport to a global audience. Looking

:56:15. > :56:18.at some of the sports missing out recently, personally I think squash

:56:19. > :56:22.should be in the Olympics because it has a global reach and we are

:56:23. > :56:29.actually very good at it! I would add netball that. Exactly. It's one

:56:30. > :56:32.of the biggest participation sports in the UK, as well as Australia and

:56:33. > :56:36.lots of Commonwealth countries. But there are lots of sports and there

:56:37. > :56:41.is a limit on the number of sports you can have, so you have to lose

:56:42. > :56:45.some to bring some in. Exactly. The IOC have to come up with a

:56:46. > :56:49.definition of what makes an Olympic sport, because we don't know. It's

:56:50. > :56:54.how they get to the decision of including a sport in the Olympics,

:56:55. > :56:59.in needs to be defined. Cat, presumably your sport throughout the

:57:00. > :57:03.year doesn't get that much coverage. That's true. I think going to the

:57:04. > :57:07.Olympics has helped our sport massively. We have had great results

:57:08. > :57:12.at world and European competitions that people don't get to know about,

:57:13. > :57:16.but being an Olympic sport, people get to know more about it and

:57:17. > :57:22.participation grows. It's important for people to learn about it, what

:57:23. > :57:26.it is, and it's a great sport, a whole body work-out. It's easy

:57:27. > :57:31.accessible and everyone can try it and have fun, so being in the

:57:32. > :57:35.Olympics helps us out. Jason, what are you particularly looking forward

:57:36. > :57:42.to as a super fan? What's at the top of your list? I think to see how Rio

:57:43. > :57:47.handles following on from probably the greatest Olympics there has ever

:57:48. > :57:54.been, in London, and the biggest Olympics with Beijing. To see how

:57:55. > :58:00.Rio handles it. I have loads of interest in watching the rowing,

:58:01. > :58:04.because the rowing team are based here in Berkshire. They have to

:58:05. > :58:09.dodge around that 36 tonnes of dead fish in the lagoon that they haven't

:58:10. > :58:13.cleared out yet. I was there in Rio a few weeks ago and there were still

:58:14. > :58:19.problems with those fish. Thank you all for speaking to us. BBC newsroom

:58:20. > :58:23.live is next with the delayed speech in east London from Jeremy Corbyn.

:58:24. > :58:31.Thank you for your company today and I will see you again tomorrow.

:58:32. > :58:36.You're coming across as, frankly, ridiculous.

:58:37. > :58:40.I'm flabbergasted by that. Will they get burnt...