16/08/2016

:00:07. > :00:08.Hello, it's Tuesday, it's nine o'clock.

:00:09. > :00:12.This is Victoria Derbyshire with you, welcome to the programme.

:00:13. > :00:29.More medals for Team GB in the dressage, cycling and hammer.

:00:30. > :00:35.Mark Cavendish scoops up the final point on offer, which makes sure

:00:36. > :00:41.that he has the silver medal for Great Britain after all the effort

:00:42. > :00:48.and all the Olympic heartache. Mark Cavendish has an Olympic medal.

:00:49. > :00:53.What a wonderful throw! She is guaranteed the bronze medal. Only

:00:54. > :00:56.two throws remain, they have already gone past her. 74.50 four.

:00:57. > :00:59.We'll talk to Charlote Dujardin's mum about that amazing win.

:01:00. > :01:01.And could Britain's cycling power couple of Jason Kenny

:01:02. > :01:05.and Laura Trott take their joint tally of golds to ten?

:01:06. > :01:14.Also on the programme - held hostage and tortured

:01:15. > :01:17.by so-called Islamic State for 13 months before being released

:01:18. > :01:20.We'll bring you an exclusive interview with the Danish photo

:01:21. > :01:26.journalist who now says he feels sorry for his captors.

:01:27. > :01:35.I would really love to have a talk with one of them at some point. Just

:01:36. > :01:38.sit down when this is over with, have a talk and ask them why. Why

:01:39. > :01:40.could they do such things? Watch Daniel Rye's first British

:01:41. > :01:42.interview on the programme today. And a man is facing jail today

:01:43. > :01:46.after threatening to kill a Labour MP the day before Jo Cox

:01:47. > :01:48.was murdered in her constituency. We'll talk to that MP -

:01:49. > :01:51.Ben Bradshaw - about death threats Welcome to the programme,

:01:52. > :02:09.we're live until 11 this morning. A little later in the programme

:02:10. > :02:13.we'll bring you the case of the mother jailed

:02:14. > :02:16.for seven and a half years after forcing her children

:02:17. > :02:18.to undergo unnecessary surgery so she could claim hundreds

:02:19. > :02:23.of thousands of pounds in benefits. It has shocked parents

:02:24. > :02:35.and medical professionals. How on earth was she able to calm

:02:36. > :02:40.those doctors into performing surgery on her two who works

:02:41. > :02:42.completely fine? We will talk about that at about 945.

:02:43. > :02:45.As always, do get in touch on all the stories we're talking

:02:46. > :02:47.about this morning - use the hashtag #VictoriaLive.

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:02:51. > :02:52.First, of course, the latest on the Olympics.

:02:53. > :02:59.I feel like I say this every day, it has been another impressive 24 hours

:03:00. > :03:03.for Team GB, Will Perry? Absolutely. We will start with Mark Cavendish in

:03:04. > :03:07.the Omnium, I don't know if any of you stayed up to watch that. We

:03:08. > :03:12.thought it would be a short race but it went on for ages. Mark Cavendish

:03:13. > :03:19.has this silver medal, this Olympic medal which eluded him. He competed

:03:20. > :03:29.in Beijing in 2008 and in London four years ago. Cavendish caused

:03:30. > :03:31.that crash that we just saw. He Head the South Korean, then he Head

:03:32. > :03:38.Elliot Daly ani, who won goals. The Omnium is 60 events, this is the

:03:39. > :03:44.final. He desperately wanted a gold medal. Mark Cavendish is very much

:03:45. > :03:48.from the School of silver, second being the first loser. There were no

:03:49. > :03:53.celebrations, he said he was reasonably happy. He wanted the gold

:03:54. > :03:59.medal around his neck. He celebrated with his family afterwards. The

:04:00. > :04:10.inevitable questions came up with him, he pulled out of the Tour de

:04:11. > :04:14.France this year to concentrate on the Olympics. Afterwards, Jill

:04:15. > :04:22.Douglas as Tim if he had another shot in Tokyo in four years? -- Jill

:04:23. > :04:27.Douglas asked him. I am tired, I can't do that Olympic cycle again.

:04:28. > :04:31.But I don't know, I said that eight years ago. I say I will retire at

:04:32. > :04:37.some point, but I know I told people get sick of me and tell me to go

:04:38. > :04:41.back on my bike. So hard to make that decision, but to be asked that

:04:42. > :04:51.as soon as you come off track, of course you feel knackered, so it is

:04:52. > :04:53.tempting to say, I can't do that again, that he might fancy another

:04:54. > :04:58.crack. Laura Trott in the gold medal position in the same event? She is a

:04:59. > :05:01.little bit younger in terms of going through an Olympic cycle. That is

:05:02. > :05:07.what Cavendish was thinking about, do I want to go through another four

:05:08. > :05:12.years? Laura Trott on course to become the first British woman to

:05:13. > :05:16.win four gold medals 48 hours after becoming the first British woman to

:05:17. > :05:21.win three. She finished second in the scratch race in the Omnium, she

:05:22. > :05:28.won the individual pursuit and easily won the square of the race.

:05:29. > :05:32.She won three at the 60 beds to take the title in London in 2012. If

:05:33. > :05:42.anything she looks much stronger this time. Her big rival is in third

:05:43. > :05:50.position. A fourth gold medal is very much on the cards fall Laura

:05:51. > :05:54.Trott. At the moment, Laura is level on those three Olympic golds with

:05:55. > :06:04.Charlotte Dujardin after Charlotte took Team GB's gold medal tally to

:06:05. > :06:10.16 with an impression of 24 hours for Team GB? It is a bit like Mark

:06:11. > :06:14.Cavendish, it might not be as hectic and physical, but do you want to go

:06:15. > :06:18.through another Olympic cycle? I don't know of anybody listen to the

:06:19. > :06:25.commentary on Radio 5 live, the cricket commentator Jonathan Agnew

:06:26. > :06:30.was almost in tears. Her horse, of Allegro, she has won three gold

:06:31. > :06:36.medals and a silver medal with it. Charlotte Dujardin winning the gold.

:06:37. > :06:40.The horse is owned by somebody who competed for Team GB. The big

:06:41. > :06:48.question is whether she will go again in Tokyo. Because the horse's

:06:49. > :06:54.owner said that if the horse could do it, he would prefer to just

:06:55. > :06:59.retire because he has done his job. Charlotte Dujardin ecstatic, she

:07:00. > :07:04.spoke to us afterwards. In London I had no expectation or pressure to go

:07:05. > :07:08.there. Today I felt a huge amount of pressure and expectation. For me, it

:07:09. > :07:14.could be one of the last rites arms Allegro. There is the talk of

:07:15. > :07:23.retirement for him. -- one of the last ridess on the Allegro. It is a

:07:24. > :07:28.really emotional time. Namibia Sophie Hitchon, 25 years of age,

:07:29. > :07:35.only doing something no British person has done since Paris in 1924.

:07:36. > :07:41.Winning a medal in the hammer. The first British woman to ever win a

:07:42. > :07:46.medal in that discipline. She threw a new British record, 74.5 four.

:07:47. > :07:51.This is her final attempt. She climbed from fifth to third on her

:07:52. > :07:57.final attempt. A huge jump when you consider that she finished 12th at

:07:58. > :08:01.London 2012. Her dad was on Radio 5 live this morning gobsmacked. He was

:08:02. > :08:05.speaking to Nicky Campbell. He said he tried to watch it on BBC TV,

:08:06. > :08:11.could not find the coverage, he watched it on the website, he

:08:12. > :08:15.watched his daughter winning a bronze medal on the BBC sport

:08:16. > :08:19.website. He said she is not your typical hammer thrower, she is a

:08:20. > :08:22.little bit smaller, not as muscular as the others, she used to be a

:08:23. > :08:29.ballet dancer, so quite a transition. It was just incredible.

:08:30. > :08:34.To see the number three at the national record, I could not be

:08:35. > :08:37.happier. My coach has stuck with me through the bad times and,

:08:38. > :08:44.obviously, the good times. Thank you for everyone that helped me at home,

:08:45. > :08:49.my mum, my family, the national lottery and all the players. We

:08:50. > :08:54.could not do it without you. It has been an amazing day. And she only

:08:55. > :08:58.took up the hammer because her athletics club needed points for

:08:59. > :09:03.participating in local competitions, which is part of their brilliant

:09:04. > :09:07.back story. Let's talk marriage proposals. Calm down, it is not your

:09:08. > :09:13.lucky day! There have been quite a few, and we now have another one

:09:14. > :09:17.involving a Team GB athlete? There have been three so far, Tom

:09:18. > :09:22.Bosworth, that is the one you will be familiar with. You had him in the

:09:23. > :09:26.studio before he went out to Rio. Tom is a race walker, this is a

:09:27. > :09:34.picture of him on the beach at Copacabana. That is his partner, his

:09:35. > :09:40.now fiancee, Harry. He put a caption on Twitter, he said, he said yes.

:09:41. > :09:46.That is Tom on his knees. The first marriage proposal was a Brazilian

:09:47. > :09:50.women's rugby sevens player and her girlfriend. And there was that pair

:09:51. > :09:57.of Chinese divers, he went down on his knee on the three metre

:09:58. > :10:02.springboard next to the green pool, a nice setting! Everybody loves a

:10:03. > :10:07.good celebration, we just saw that in the weightlifting? If you are a

:10:08. > :10:16.fan of David Brent or The Office, you might find this amusing. This is

:10:17. > :10:25.a Kazakhstan weightlifter. 195 kilograms. Look at that. Very David

:10:26. > :10:30.Brent. He has got moves and skills. More importantly, they be not more

:10:31. > :10:35.importantly, less amusingly, we will have big chances today of more

:10:36. > :10:39.goldss for Great Britain, Laura Trott is the main one. Halfway

:10:40. > :10:44.through the Omnium and probably be odds-on favourite for another gold

:10:45. > :10:51.medal. Laura Trott is going at five past nine tonight, UK time. Her

:10:52. > :10:57.fiance, Jason Kenny, he has five golds so far. He could match Sir

:10:58. > :11:02.Chris Hoy's total of six golds in the men's keirin, which is tonight

:11:03. > :11:06.at 10:15pm UK time. The Kazakhstan dancing, we will definitely play

:11:07. > :11:08.that again during the course of the programme, don't worry.

:11:09. > :11:10.Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:11:11. > :11:14.The number of patients in England waiting over 18 weeks for planned

:11:15. > :11:17.surgery is up by almost 80%, according to new research.

:11:18. > :11:19.The Patients' Association says delays are the longest they've been

:11:20. > :11:22.since it began collecting data six years ago.

:11:23. > :11:24.Here's our health correspondent, Jane Dreaper.

:11:25. > :11:29.David Fearnley faced an agonising wait for a hip replacement,

:11:30. > :11:32.and he worried about being away from his farm at a busy time.

:11:33. > :11:39.He had to be referred to hospital twice.

:11:40. > :11:41.David's op then happened a month ago, after he was offered

:11:42. > :11:47.The pain was getting worse all the time.

:11:48. > :11:52.You know, a couple of days when I could barely walk,

:11:53. > :11:58.I were on one kind of painkillers and then went on to another kind.

:11:59. > :12:04.NHS trusts in England were asked about their waiting times

:12:05. > :12:11.Almost 80% responded to the Freedom of Information questions.

:12:12. > :12:14.The average waiting times for five procedures,

:12:15. > :12:18.including hip and knee ops, are now above 100 days,

:12:19. > :12:20.and three quarters of trusts didn't inform patients if they missed

:12:21. > :12:34.People contact us and tell us they have been on the waiting list

:12:35. > :12:37.for several months, and they have had no communication

:12:38. > :12:40.Now, these are people who are in pain and discomfort,

:12:41. > :12:42.and their ability to perform their normal daily tasks

:12:43. > :12:45.is inhibited because of the pain that they are in.

:12:46. > :12:46.David is recovering well from his op.

:12:47. > :12:48.The Government says the Patients Association's

:12:49. > :12:50.figures are misleading, because nine out of ten patients

:12:51. > :12:54.still wait less than the 18-week target for treatment,

:12:55. > :12:56.and many more operations are being carried out overall.

:12:57. > :13:14.The last Western hostage to be released alive by so-called Islamic

:13:15. > :13:18.state says he feels sorry for Jihadi John and his other kidnappers.

:13:19. > :13:21.Photographer Daniel Wright travelled to try to document the lives of

:13:22. > :13:25.people affected by the civil War, and was seized by the terror group.

:13:26. > :13:27.We will show you his first British interviewer just after 9:30am.

:13:28. > :13:30.The police watchdog is investigating the death of the former footballer

:13:31. > :13:33.Dalian Atkinson after he was shot with a taser by officers

:13:34. > :13:35.The former Aston Villa striker, who was 48,

:13:36. > :13:45.It's reported he was having dialysis treatment for kidney problems.

:13:46. > :13:47.Fifteen people have been transferred from the Guantanamo Bay

:13:48. > :13:49.detention centre in Cuba, to the United Arab Emirates.

:13:50. > :13:51.The release of the twelve Yemeni nationals and three Afghans

:13:52. > :13:53.is the largest single transfer of detainees during

:13:54. > :13:58.Sixty one people remain at the facility, which Mr Obama has

:13:59. > :14:04.pledged to close, despite opposition from the Republicans.

:14:05. > :14:05.Viruses could be more dangerous if people become

:14:06. > :14:09.infected in the morning, new research indicates.

:14:10. > :14:11.Scientists from Cambridge University found that viral levels in animals

:14:12. > :14:13.were ten times higher, if they had been infected

:14:14. > :14:16.in the early hours, rather than another time of day.

:14:17. > :14:18.They also found that shift workers have a higher risk

:14:19. > :14:24.of infection, because their body clocks are disrupted.

:14:25. > :14:30.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

:14:31. > :14:35.Back to you, Victoria. Thank you very much. Good morning.

:14:36. > :14:38.12 years ago a gold, a silver and a bronze on one day

:14:39. > :14:41.at an Olympic games for Team GB would have been quite something -

:14:42. > :14:43.these days, though, it's just normal isn't it?

:14:44. > :14:46.In the dressage - often described as ballet on horses -

:14:47. > :14:49.Charlotte Dujardin became the second British woman to win three

:14:50. > :14:52.Olympic golds by retaining her individual title.

:14:53. > :14:58.I have been worrying about messing up her surname and now I'm messing

:14:59. > :15:19.up her Christian name! COMMENTATOR: Looks amazing. 14 years

:15:20. > :15:26.old now. Valegro. They have been the stars of the sport worldwide now.

:15:27. > :15:33.Since London 2012. We have had some wonderful medals here and of course,

:15:34. > :15:38.at these games, athletics or other titles, but this will be a pretty

:15:39. > :15:47.unique thing. Charlotte has done enough. A big challenge, no doubt

:15:48. > :15:52.about that whatsoever. London, I had no expectation, no pressure to go

:15:53. > :15:58.out there. Today I felt a huge amount of pressure and expectation

:15:59. > :16:01.and, for me, it could be one of the last rides of Valegro. There was

:16:02. > :16:05.talk of retirement for him so for me to finish it in this way, yeah, it's

:16:06. > :16:06.really an emotional time. Her feat is even more amazing

:16:07. > :16:09.because before the London Olympics, Britain had never won a single medal

:16:10. > :16:11.in the event. The 31-year-old helped Great Britain

:16:12. > :16:14.secure two golds back in 2012 and her defence of the individual

:16:15. > :16:17.title makes her Britain's joint most successful female Olympian

:16:18. > :16:22.alongside Laura Trott. Charlotte has been described

:16:23. > :16:24.as the greatest rider She cried partly because it's

:16:25. > :16:29.the end of her working relationship with her horse Valegro after nine

:16:30. > :16:33.years of competitions. By the way that horse -

:16:34. > :16:36.who she describes as her best friend No one knows more about the emotions

:16:37. > :16:41.behind Charlotte's success than her mother Jane,

:16:42. > :16:54.who is with us from the family And her sister Emma Jane. We will

:16:55. > :17:00.also talk to Debbie Thomas or change charlotte for four years and

:17:01. > :17:05.transitioned into dressage and also an international dressage rider.

:17:06. > :17:12.First of all, Jane, good morning to you. So, only the second British

:17:13. > :17:17.woman to win three Olympic golds and she is your daughter. Absolutely.

:17:18. > :17:22.It's just phenomenal. I can't believe she has achieved what she

:17:23. > :17:26.has in such a short space of time. Emma Jane, talk through yesterday.

:17:27. > :17:36.How was it for you and the family? The thing ever. So nerve wracking.

:17:37. > :17:41.We were all sitting there, -- worst thing ever. I knew deep down she

:17:42. > :17:46.would do it. There's no one who is more of a fighter than Charlotte. If

:17:47. > :17:49.anybody was going to bring a medal, it would beat Charlotte. She has

:17:50. > :17:55.always been a fighter from a child. Really competitive. She got into

:17:56. > :18:03.horses because you love them. Wash your natural? Absolutely. Both my

:18:04. > :18:09.girls, to be fair -- was she a natural? I did show jumping myself

:18:10. > :18:14.but when I became a mother, I could never continue my hobby because with

:18:15. > :18:19.the children, it was difficult to take them with me so being a

:18:20. > :18:23.competitive minded mother, I decided to try and incorporate the children

:18:24. > :18:32.within my hobby but thankfully, they loved it. So we did all the showing.

:18:33. > :18:35.Emma Jane was older when Charlotte started but she used to have to

:18:36. > :18:39.dress up and where the whole shenanigans when Emma Jane came out

:18:40. > :18:46.of the arena, so she could get on and do her little bit but it was

:18:47. > :18:49.hysterical. Just amazing. You had to beg borrow and steal to get the

:18:50. > :18:55.money together for that first pony, didn't you? Yes, in the beginning,

:18:56. > :18:59.unfortunately we lost our home and everything. My dad played a great

:19:00. > :19:04.part supporting us to keep everything. He kept saying to me,

:19:05. > :19:09."Jane, this better things to put your money towards." But it was

:19:10. > :19:13.something I had a passion for. It kept us together as a family. We

:19:14. > :19:17.loved it. It was something we could all do regardless of what the

:19:18. > :19:20.situation was. I suppose in hindsight I should have listened to

:19:21. > :19:23.my dad in the early days because he made sense but it's what we loved.

:19:24. > :19:29.It's how we fulfilled our dreams, really. Emma Jane, tellers about the

:19:30. > :19:36.partnership relationship between Charlotte and Valegro. There's an

:19:37. > :19:41.amazing bond between the two of them. You can just see, everything

:19:42. > :19:46.they do together, they worshipped the ground they walk on between the

:19:47. > :19:52.two of them. Blue Brie loves Charlotte. She walks around the

:19:53. > :19:57.yard. He knows she is coming. Just together, the way they work,

:19:58. > :20:03.complete harmony. Let me bring in Judy. You have been Charlotte coach

:20:04. > :20:09.and employer. How did you celebrate? We had a great evening. All the

:20:10. > :20:12.potential Charlottes, three girls working for me now, they came over

:20:13. > :20:17.and we had Brazilian cocktails and Brazilian food set up, and we all

:20:18. > :20:23.settle down to watch and we had a great evening. Why did you give

:20:24. > :20:26.Charlotte her first job as an apprentice at your stables when she

:20:27. > :20:33.was a teenager? Well, she came along for a lesson. Her great buddy at the

:20:34. > :20:36.in Rio with her, Ian, was teaching her at the time and you was

:20:37. > :20:44.interested in making the transition from showing to dressage. I was able

:20:45. > :20:48.to have a vacancy and you could see she was a great rider. She needed to

:20:49. > :20:52.change some things about her style, but even at that stage, she had a

:20:53. > :20:57.little glint of termination and thirst for knowledge and the desire

:20:58. > :21:03.to improve herself everyday and also the desire to improve the horses

:21:04. > :21:11.everyday. She had a real goal and it was to be the best. Debbie Thomas,

:21:12. > :21:15.you are Charlotte 's first trainer. Welcome. You have been watching your

:21:16. > :21:20.riding since you was a toddler. What kind of advice did you use to give

:21:21. > :21:23.her? When she was in the showing world, we always used to say that

:21:24. > :21:29.when she started to go to the big shows like Wembley and Olympia, we

:21:30. > :21:34.would just say it's just another arena and just another show, so it

:21:35. > :21:41.would keep her calm. She was absolutely always keeping it

:21:42. > :21:45.together. I wonder if she was thinking that yesterday? There been

:21:46. > :21:49.a little bit of pressure. I think she was under a huge amount of

:21:50. > :21:54.pressure yesterday. As she set herself when she went to London,

:21:55. > :21:58.nobody had any expectations of her. This time, we all had expectations

:21:59. > :22:02.but I didn't have any doubt in my mind she wasn't going to bring home

:22:03. > :22:07.the gold medal for us. How do you train a horse to do what Valegro

:22:08. > :22:19.did? Many years and a lot of hard work. Go on, Judy. She went from me

:22:20. > :22:22.to Carl and he has been a huge influence on her career and he has

:22:23. > :22:27.got to be the best trainer in the world. He a trainer all of our

:22:28. > :22:33.dressage team and is a great rider himself and, with his backing, the

:22:34. > :22:36.phenomenal horse Valegro and Valegro's owners, it gave Charlotte

:22:37. > :22:41.an opportunity to get in there and go for gold and yesterday, watching

:22:42. > :22:45.her ride around the arena, she was smiling and when I saw her smiling,

:22:46. > :22:49.I thought, she is absolutely in the writer 's owner. She won't make a

:22:50. > :22:53.single mistake and she got on and did the job and it was phenomenal to

:22:54. > :22:57.watch. Jane and Emma Jane, it looks like you will be going to her

:22:58. > :23:02.wedding very soon? She has been saying this since 2012, so I'm not

:23:03. > :23:08.sure I'm going to buy my hat just yet. You will have seen that little

:23:09. > :23:14.notice Dean put on his shirt, "Can we be married now?" It's a wonder he

:23:15. > :23:19.is carried on waiting, let me tell you, he's desperate. With Charlotte,

:23:20. > :23:27.horses always come first and if there's something not going on, Dean

:23:28. > :23:31.has to take second place. Thank you very much. Thank you so much and

:23:32. > :23:34.Emma Jane, well done, thank you for coming on the programme, everyone.

:23:35. > :23:36.One of Britain's most successful cyclists, Mark Cavendish,

:23:37. > :23:39.has finally achieved his ambition of winning a medal at the Olympics.

:23:40. > :23:42.The man from the Isle of Man, who has already won four world

:23:43. > :23:46.titles on the road and track, and 30 stages at the Tour De France,

:23:47. > :23:48.took silver in the Omnium, which is cycling's answer

:23:49. > :24:04.COMMENTATOR: Mark Cavendish get the final point on offer to make sure he

:24:05. > :24:09.has the silver medal. For Great Britain. After all the effort and

:24:10. > :24:12.all the Olympic heartache, Mark Cavendish has an Olympic medal. It

:24:13. > :24:29.is a silver one and it is richly deserved. Honestly, I think

:24:30. > :24:32.everyone, the lambs, -- labs, the Sprint, the team behind us, we've

:24:33. > :24:38.got incredible riders in Great Britain. The nutritionist,

:24:39. > :24:43.mechanics. The guy who developed the bikes and the suits, our data

:24:44. > :24:51.analyst and everyone, incredible how it's worked. I've learned a whole

:24:52. > :24:53.new thing for the last ten years and I know without those guys I would

:24:54. > :24:54.not be on the podium today. During the race though Cavendish

:24:55. > :24:57.was involved in a crash which not only brought down

:24:58. > :25:02.Italy's Elia Viviani, who remarkably recovered to win

:25:03. > :25:04.gold, but also injured South Korea's Park Sang-Hoon

:25:05. > :25:25.who ended up being taken to hospital COMMENTATOR: Elia Viviani, the gold

:25:26. > :25:31.medal rider at the moment has hit the deck. There was a collision

:25:32. > :25:37.involving Mark Cavendish. He clipped him. I think it was Park Sang-Hoon

:25:38. > :25:42.from South Korea. Let's have a look at it now. Well, Cavendish could get

:25:43. > :25:46.a warning for that because he just swung down into him. The Korean did

:25:47. > :25:48.not do anything wrong, I'm afraid and that could be a real problem for

:25:49. > :25:50.Mark Cavendish. It's a big day for British

:25:51. > :25:52.cycling's dream couple, Jason is on course to match

:25:53. > :25:59.Sir Chris Hoy's all time British He has already matched Sir Steve

:26:00. > :26:04.Redgrave and Sir Bradley Wiggins The 28-year-old will race his final

:26:05. > :26:09.Olympic event starting this His fiance cyclist Laura Trott,

:26:10. > :26:15.who is Britain's joint female most successful Olympian with three

:26:16. > :26:19.gold medals, could be about to win her fourth

:26:20. > :26:22.in the Omnium, a six-track event She won her earlier event yesterday

:26:23. > :26:31.in spectacular style. Francis Gallacher has

:26:32. > :26:47.known COMMENTATOR: Basically we got to know each other

:26:48. > :26:50.swimming on a Saturday morning full is as parents do, use it in the

:26:51. > :26:57.gallery and watch your kids swimming. It all started off.

:26:58. > :27:01.Chatting with Glenda for several weeks, she wanted to actually lose

:27:02. > :27:07.weight and I suggested get her on a bike. We got the family on a bike

:27:08. > :27:14.and the girls came, too. I was an active cyclist myself. Mountain

:27:15. > :27:20.biking. My children were racing in the under tens. We took the family

:27:21. > :27:28.away for a weekend to Hartington hall with friends and family and

:27:29. > :27:31.just had fun on the weekend, we saw Laura on her bike and choose

:27:32. > :27:35.competitive doing her swimming and was already doing a bit of

:27:36. > :27:40.trampolining at Grundy Park sports centre, as well, at the time. I

:27:41. > :27:45.suggested to bring the girls down to the track where I was a member and

:27:46. > :27:51.they loved it from day one. It started from there. So you noticed

:27:52. > :27:56.the competitive streak? From when she was riding a bike. But does not

:27:57. > :28:00.mean you end up Olympic champion winning possibly four goals, does

:28:01. > :28:06.it? No, with Laura, she's always been a fighter. She was born

:28:07. > :28:11.prematurely. Do you think that was significant? I think it was part of

:28:12. > :28:15.their guts and determination. No matter whether she was swimming,

:28:16. > :28:20.riding a bike, trampolining in the early days, she was always

:28:21. > :28:25.competitive. And I think that is the edge. With youngsters, it's all

:28:26. > :28:29.about having that spark of determination. I think whether she

:28:30. > :28:33.had been a swimmer, trampoline store cyclist, whatever sport she chose to

:28:34. > :28:38.do in her career, I think she would have been successful. Do you think

:28:39. > :28:44.she would get another gold today? Yes. Anything can still happen. But

:28:45. > :28:47.yes, I think the elimination race yesterday, she rode it to

:28:48. > :28:54.perfection. Just fantastic to see. I'm very proud of starting here on

:28:55. > :28:59.the road, small cog in a big wheel. So you should be. Do you think Jason

:29:00. > :29:02.Kenny can get another gold medal today? This is a really fascinating

:29:03. > :29:08.one where there's six or eight riders and a man on open the front

:29:09. > :29:12.keeps the pace down. For a few laps, and then he clears off and a belt

:29:13. > :29:16.around, don't they? The performance he showing at the moment, he's

:29:17. > :29:23.odds-on favourite to win. Hopefully, fingers crossed, they can get the

:29:24. > :29:28.gold medal. Fantastic. What a household. They are due to get

:29:29. > :29:33.married in September. However many gold medals they will have on the

:29:34. > :29:38.mantelpiece, in their front room, I wonder if they are competitive

:29:39. > :29:44.together? Or they talk about the weather when they go home? I haven't

:29:45. > :29:49.met Jason, at all. I haven't seen Laura personally for a few years

:29:50. > :29:56.now, because she is encapsulated in this bubble to protect everything

:29:57. > :30:02.going on, but I think it's fantastic and I think they both bounce off

:30:03. > :30:06.each other, to support and encourage and they look very happy together

:30:07. > :30:12.and I think that's the thing which shines out from Laura. She's always

:30:13. > :30:19.had fun doing what she does. I think if kids don't have fun, when they

:30:20. > :30:22.compete, they will want to compete and their bubbly characters come

:30:23. > :30:29.through. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming on the programme.

:30:30. > :30:35.Let's talk about Sophie Hitchon, she won Bronson became the first British

:30:36. > :30:39.hammer thrower to win an Olympic medal for decades. I can Chalobah

:30:40. > :30:43.how many years, I will tell you in a minute. -- I can't remember how many

:30:44. > :31:02.years. 76.75 a round number five.

:31:03. > :31:09.Lets talk to Sophie's mum Wendy, who I think it's at home in Burnley. How

:31:10. > :31:14.are you? Very well, thank you. Congratulations, how did you follow

:31:15. > :31:18.your daughter's amazing achievement? Walking in and out of the house,

:31:19. > :31:25.hanging washing out and generally hiding. So you did not follow it?

:31:26. > :31:33.Well, get, we did, really, but behind the fingers. You obviously

:31:34. > :31:39.get serious anxiety when she's about to compete? I don't know. You want

:31:40. > :31:43.them to perform to the best of their abilities and it is always nerve

:31:44. > :31:48.wracking when you can't see what is going on. Although we are watching

:31:49. > :31:55.it on the telly, it is delayed. We tend to watch it a bit more on the

:31:56. > :32:00.live results feed that you can follow, it brings up the results

:32:01. > :32:05.afterwards. So you sort of have the delayed reaction. It is not so bad

:32:06. > :32:12.when you are in the stadium, but not being there, you can't tell how she

:32:13. > :32:16.is feeling and how things are going. Everybody is making a huge deal

:32:17. > :32:22.about this journey from a ballet dancer as a young girl to hammer

:32:23. > :32:27.thrower, Telus about that? She started at nursery, really, most

:32:28. > :32:32.nursery schools they get them into activities at an early age. It was

:32:33. > :32:38.ballet dancing. She did all sorts of things, trampolining and VAT. She

:32:39. > :32:43.just stuck with dancing. She did tap dancing, modern dancing. And when

:32:44. > :32:51.athletics became more prominent, she gave that up. To actually further

:32:52. > :32:56.her career as a hammer thrower. The first Briton to win an Olympic

:32:57. > :33:03.hammer medal since a man called Malcolm Noakes in 1924. 90 odd years

:33:04. > :33:10.ago. Hammer for women has not been going that long. She is certainly

:33:11. > :33:16.putting it on the map. I hope there are lots of young girls and young

:33:17. > :33:21.boys coming through. I know we have quite a few down at Blackburn

:33:22. > :33:25.Harriers that are clean and is doing really well. They had just won the

:33:26. > :33:31.northerner, they will be going to the British Championships in a

:33:32. > :33:34.couple of weeks. Looking good. Lovely to talk to you,

:33:35. > :33:38.congratulations, thank you for coming on the programme. Cheers,

:33:39. > :33:45.Wendy, the mother of Sophie Hitchon, who has won bronze for Team GB.

:33:46. > :33:48.An exclusive interview with the Danish photo-journalist

:33:49. > :33:51.who was held hostage and tortured by so-called Islamic State for 13

:33:52. > :34:03.of a mother who was jailed for faking her children's illness

:34:04. > :34:11.so she could claim hundreds of thousands of pounds in benefits..

:34:12. > :34:17.All the Olympic news with Will Parry.

:34:18. > :34:21.The sports headlines, Mark Cavendish achieved his ambition of winning an

:34:22. > :34:27.Olympic medal by taking silver in the Omnium for Team GB. The Manxman

:34:28. > :34:30.missed out on his medal in the previous two Games, he says it would

:34:31. > :34:33.have been nice to finish the collection with gold, he says he

:34:34. > :34:37.does not think he will be going for it in Tokyo, but you never know.

:34:38. > :34:43.Defending champion Laura Trott the women's Anyon -- leads the women's

:34:44. > :34:47.Anyon. She is three races away from claiming a fourth Olympic gold

:34:48. > :34:51.medal, 48 hours after she became the first British woman to win three.

:34:52. > :34:55.Charlotte Dujardin is the second British woman to win three Olympic

:34:56. > :35:03.golds, retaining the individual dressage title in Rio on her horse

:35:04. > :35:08.Valegro. And Sophie Hutcheon became the first British woman to win an

:35:09. > :35:11.Olympic hammer medal by taking bronze, climbing from fifth to third

:35:12. > :35:12.with a British record on her final throw.

:35:13. > :35:16.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:35:17. > :35:20.The police watchdog is investigating the death of the former footballer

:35:21. > :35:23.Dalian Atkinson after he was shot with a taser by officers

:35:24. > :35:26.The former Aston Villa striker, who was 48,

:35:27. > :35:31.It's reported he was having dialysis treatment for kidney problems.

:35:32. > :35:34.The number of patients in England waiting over 18 weeks for planned

:35:35. > :35:39.surgery is up by almost 80%, according to new research.

:35:40. > :35:41.The Patients' Association says delays are the longest they've been

:35:42. > :35:44.since it began collecting data six years ago.

:35:45. > :35:50.Here's our health correspondent, Jane Dreaper.

:35:51. > :35:56.It also said that many people are having their operations cancelled at

:35:57. > :35:59.short notice. Government describes the as misleading.

:36:00. > :36:01.Rail fares have increased at double the speed of wages

:36:02. > :36:03.in the last six years, research by trade unions suggests.

:36:04. > :36:06.The new figures say fares are up 25% since 2010,

:36:07. > :36:08.while the average weekly earnings have risen by 12%.

:36:09. > :36:11.It comes on the day commuters will find out how much regulated

:36:12. > :36:17.Viruses could be more dangerous if people become

:36:18. > :36:19.infected in the morning, new research indicates.

:36:20. > :36:23.Scientists from Cambridge University found that viral levels in animals

:36:24. > :36:25.were ten times higher if they had been infected

:36:26. > :36:28.in the early hours, rather than another time of day.

:36:29. > :36:31.They also found that shift workers have a higher risk

:36:32. > :36:36.of infection, because their body clocks are disrupted.

:36:37. > :36:43.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10am.

:36:44. > :36:50.Thank you very much. News just in, inflation is up a tiny bit. The

:36:51. > :36:57.Office of National Statistics says the rate of consumer price index

:36:58. > :36:59.inflation rose to 0.6% in July from 0.5% in June. Inflation up a tiny,

:37:00. > :37:00.tiny bit. The last Western hostage to be

:37:01. > :37:03.released alive by Islamist terror group Isis has told this programme

:37:04. > :37:06.in his first British interview that he feels sorry

:37:07. > :37:08.for so-called Jihadi John In 2013, photographer Daniel Rye

:37:09. > :37:16.travelled to Syria to try and document the lives of people

:37:17. > :37:19.affected by the war, For 13 months he was held hostage,

:37:20. > :37:24.along with British aid worker David Haines,

:37:25. > :37:26.British taxi driver Alan Henning and US journalist James Foley -

:37:27. > :37:35.three men who were executed by Isis. Subjected to brutal attacks

:37:36. > :37:39.and forced to witness a bloody execution at the hands

:37:40. > :37:45.of Jihadi John and the so-called Beatles, Rye has now written

:37:46. > :37:47.a book of his ordeal - the most detailed account ever

:37:48. > :37:50.from inside an Isis jail - and he spoke to us in this

:37:51. > :37:52.exclusive interview. He explained why he decided

:37:53. > :38:08.to travel to Syria. When I left for Syria, at that point

:38:09. > :38:12.one fifth part of the Jordanian population was Syrian refugees.

:38:13. > :38:19.There were so many people leaving Syria at that point. So my interest

:38:20. > :38:23.was to go and find... Just across the border, find a family that had

:38:24. > :38:28.not yet fled but were about to. I wanted to have a picture of a family

:38:29. > :38:35.before they became refugees. I wanted a family while they were

:38:36. > :38:40.still a Syrian family. And then, basically start the trip towards

:38:41. > :38:44.wherever they were going, to have a picture where people could identify

:38:45. > :38:53.with, basically. So that is what I was going for. When I left Syria

:38:54. > :38:57.into the town, about four kilometres across the Turkish/ Syrian border.

:38:58. > :39:03.And on your first day in Syria you were detained, and it was not long

:39:04. > :39:12.before you were blindfolded, handcuffed and being taken away? No,

:39:13. > :39:15.I think now it is about, how much is it, three years, three and half

:39:16. > :39:22.years ago, three years ago I was taken. At that point, nobody really

:39:23. > :39:27.knew who Isis was. They were not and anybody's radar as much. They were a

:39:28. > :39:33.very small group starting to evolve a bit. What happened to me, I

:39:34. > :39:40.believe, was to come in between these things. Had I went one month

:39:41. > :39:45.earlier, nothing would probably have happened. Did I decide to go one

:39:46. > :39:49.month later, certainly we could see that many French people have been

:39:50. > :39:57.taken. Lots of people were taken in the beginning. That was when the

:39:58. > :40:01.whole kidnap of all the Western journalists started. When you look

:40:02. > :40:04.at Syria and big parts of Iraq today, Western journalists just

:40:05. > :40:12.don't go there any more, especially not into ice is held territories.

:40:13. > :40:17.They will be kidnapped. -- Isis held territories. You document in your

:40:18. > :40:21.book the horrific torture you were subjected to. Would you talk a

:40:22. > :40:30.little about the kind of violence perpetrated against you? I think

:40:31. > :40:35.when you think about what would happen when you get kidnapped by a

:40:36. > :40:41.group like that, torture is the first thing that comes up in your

:40:42. > :40:48.mind. So, yes, there was torture. What I think is very interesting was

:40:49. > :40:54.that when I was witnessing this torture, the real torture, for me,

:40:55. > :40:59.was only the first, like, two weeks or so. Then it basically stopped

:41:00. > :41:04.again. But at that point it was like it was the most normal thing in the

:41:05. > :41:09.world. What was going on, it seemed like everybody was totally cool with

:41:10. > :41:12.what was happening, people were not even paying attention that the guy

:41:13. > :41:18.was hanging down from the ceiling, it was just another day at the

:41:19. > :41:23.office, basically. For them? For them. What was happening to you? One

:41:24. > :41:29.of the reasons why I wrote this book was to tell people what happens in a

:41:30. > :41:34.way so they can put all the things together. I don't like to talk about

:41:35. > :41:42.how I was tortured. I don't like to talk about what I was feeling, what

:41:43. > :41:50.I was... What I was thinking etc. And I think telling it in a book is

:41:51. > :41:54.a good way for me to give the story its own life. People can read it and

:41:55. > :42:03.have an understanding not only of the torture but of how we survived

:42:04. > :42:07.as a big group, me and my friends who were detained together. There is

:42:08. > :42:12.a particular time early on in your captivity where you were

:42:13. > :42:17.effectively... Your arms were changed to a ceiling. And you got

:42:18. > :42:20.through that. When they threaten to do it again, and to do it again and

:42:21. > :42:24.said it would last for three days, you didn't think you could get

:42:25. > :42:28.through that. And you actually manage with your feet, with your

:42:29. > :42:34.toe, to pull a table towards you say you were able to stand on the table

:42:35. > :42:38.so your body was not elongated and in such agony. And after

:42:39. > :42:47.consideration you thought, you thought you wanted to take your own

:42:48. > :42:51.life? Year. -- yes. At that point it felt like the only thing to do. I

:42:52. > :42:54.was pretty sure I would never be able to come home alive after what

:42:55. > :43:02.they had basically started doing with me. I was like... My family and

:43:03. > :43:08.friends should not with me being executed in a video or whatever, so

:43:09. > :43:12.I might as well, you know, do it myself. For me, that was the only

:43:13. > :43:17.thing. And after that, they made sure that I could not do that again,

:43:18. > :43:25.even though I wanted to for a long time. That was the only way out. And

:43:26. > :43:32.I understand why it is a very... It is a very interesting subject. It is

:43:33. > :43:36.very crazy to be that guy suddenly who decides to do things like that.

:43:37. > :43:41.I have always been very happy about my life and happy about... I always

:43:42. > :43:45.had a lot of friends, I did not go to Syria to escape anything. I went

:43:46. > :43:53.to Syria to do this story and go back again. To my girlfriend, my

:43:54. > :43:58.family, everybody. And suddenly standing there, thinking, OK, I am

:43:59. > :44:03.not going to witness that any more, I am not going to see... I'm not

:44:04. > :44:07.going to have kids, I'm not going to... All the things you dream about

:44:08. > :44:11.as a kid that you will do when you grow up, that is not a part of your

:44:12. > :44:17.life. That was the hardest part, definitely, about all of this. And

:44:18. > :44:26.when I think it is important about it, this story, especially when you

:44:27. > :44:31.read the media, they tend to really go into all the torture parts. In

:44:32. > :44:35.terms of violence, some pretty horrific stuff, beatings on the

:44:36. > :44:39.soles of your feet, kicking, general humiliation. People trying to break

:44:40. > :44:43.you because they thought you were a spy, because you are taking

:44:44. > :44:47.photographs. And at one point you were performing for them some

:44:48. > :44:52.gymnastic moves because you had been an elite gymnasts as a younger man,

:44:53. > :44:53.you were trying to prove you were a normal bloke, a photojournalist from

:44:54. > :45:03.Denmark? Exactly, that's one of the things

:45:04. > :45:12.that, for me, is interesting when stories like this surprise you. And,

:45:13. > :45:16.for me, suddenly standing there in a cell, telling them I'm a gymnast and

:45:17. > :45:20.they didn't believe me, I said, how can I prove to you I am a gymnast?

:45:21. > :45:27.And standing there in handcuffs, trying to make... I've been watching

:45:28. > :45:31.so much of the gymnastics in the Olympics, and doing gymnastics all

:45:32. > :45:38.my life and suddenly I was standing there in front of these torturers

:45:39. > :45:46.having to do a back tax, a backflip to prove and the best part about

:45:47. > :45:52.this was the experience, the expression afterwards. These guys,

:45:53. > :45:59.they didn't know what to say. They were, like, that's stupid. And then

:46:00. > :46:04.they kept on with something else. Because they have been used to

:46:05. > :46:10.torturing people, to do these kinds of things for such a long time, the

:46:11. > :46:15.don't expect people to do a flip in the middle of the room. Just that

:46:16. > :46:22.second, I remember very well, this expression on his face. He didn't

:46:23. > :46:28.know what to say. Awesome. It still didn't convince them, though? They

:46:29. > :46:36.say whatever they want to say. You didn't manage an escape attempt,

:46:37. > :46:42.inspired, you say in the book, by a film featuring Christian Bale. What

:46:43. > :46:48.did you do, how to do get out? I saw Rusty and bail was opening his

:46:49. > :46:52.handcuffs with a male, a few weeks before I left for Syria, so it was

:46:53. > :47:00.very clear in my head, this experience and suddenly, I watched

:47:01. > :47:05.the movie I seem to be in a movie almost and I found a small nail.

:47:06. > :47:14.It's very easy, actually. I managed to open these handcuffs behind my

:47:15. > :47:24.back. Finally, I opened them and there was a whole in the wall that I

:47:25. > :47:31.could walk out of and suddenly I was almost free. But they found you in

:47:32. > :47:37.some fields and took you straight back to the man who had been

:47:38. > :47:43.torturing you? Yes, at that point, I was in the middle of a depot, so no

:47:44. > :47:45.matter where I was, which way I was running, I would go directly into

:47:46. > :47:56.people who were not used to seeing people like me, but some people have

:47:57. > :48:01.escaped prison but, at that point, I think that was three hours after I

:48:02. > :48:09.tried to hang myself. I tried to escape. I was not thinking very

:48:10. > :48:12.much. It was not like I have to run, I have to say because people say

:48:13. > :48:17.there's a bigger chance of surviving if you stay. I just had to go. I was

:48:18. > :48:25.just waiting for them to come back again. It also felt like the most

:48:26. > :48:30.natural thing. Several weeks after that, you were moved to a basement

:48:31. > :48:32.under the Children's Hospital in Aleppo where other Western hostages

:48:33. > :48:40.were being held. And you find yourself in a cell in a very small

:48:41. > :48:47.space with two Frenchmen where you have open wounds on your wrists from

:48:48. > :48:50.your handcuffs, violent diarrhoea, and that scenario, if it wasn't

:48:51. > :48:55.difficult enough already is much harder in a way when you have to

:48:56. > :49:02.cope with that, sharing with two other hostages in that tiny space? I

:49:03. > :49:08.think the reason why I can sit here now and be a completely normal

:49:09. > :49:16.person is because I think the way my situation was, that the first three

:49:17. > :49:19.weeks was the most heavily tortured, and I was not, in my wildest

:49:20. > :49:24.imagination, thinking I would come out alive again. In the end you are

:49:25. > :49:30.held in the same place as the US journalist James Foley. And John

:49:31. > :49:34.Cantley, an aid worker, David Haynes, Alan Henning, the taxi

:49:35. > :49:40.driver. You said in particular in the book James Foley lifted the mood

:49:41. > :49:46.of you all. Why? I think he comes from a very strong family. As I said

:49:47. > :49:55.before, I don't think that I was going to Syria... I didn't want to

:49:56. > :50:00.escape from anything back home, so definitely, James comes from a very

:50:01. > :50:04.strong family and has three brothers and one sister and two very lovely

:50:05. > :50:09.parents. I've met them many times and I think the fact that he knows

:50:10. > :50:15.himself, he was raised among other people taking care of them, as the

:50:16. > :50:22.eldest one. Somehow, he managed to be very... Have some extra energy to

:50:23. > :50:29.ask for extra food full whenever he got beaten, he was not crying,

:50:30. > :50:33.listen to me, everything is bad. No, he was like, everything will be OK.

:50:34. > :50:41.It's always everything will be OK. In this basement you all came across

:50:42. > :50:47.the British guards, the men you described as the Beatles. We know

:50:48. > :50:57.him as Jeff Hardy John, Ringo and George. -- Jihadi John. What were

:50:58. > :51:06.they like? There was a big difference between the local members

:51:07. > :51:20.of ices and the foreign fighters -- Isis. The locals were much more cool

:51:21. > :51:24.and relaxed in a way. I don't know if it's different places on the

:51:25. > :51:34.planet... Why do you say you feel sorry for them?

:51:35. > :51:39.I would really love to have a talk with one of them at some point. Just

:51:40. > :51:51.to sit down when this is over with, have a talk, and ask them why. Why

:51:52. > :51:53.could you do such things? You can read his full story in his book.

:51:54. > :51:56.And we'll be hearing more from Daniel Rye later

:51:57. > :51:58.on about being released, how he came to terms with leaving

:51:59. > :52:07.other hostages behind - people who became his friends -

:52:08. > :52:13.and why he doesn't wish his captors dead.

:52:14. > :52:21.That is in the next hour of the programme. Tomorrow we will be live

:52:22. > :52:25.in Nottingham with audience of floating Labour voters for a Labour

:52:26. > :52:29.leadership programme. Owen Smith, who wants to be leader and Jeremy

:52:30. > :52:33.Corbyn, who wants to continue being leader of Labour will be there, too,

:52:34. > :52:34.taking questions from an audience wherever you are around the country

:52:35. > :52:37.so do join us from 9am tomorrow. The case of the mother jailed

:52:38. > :52:40.for seven and a half years after forcing her children

:52:41. > :52:42.to undergo unnecessary surgery so she could claim hundreds

:52:43. > :52:45.of thousand pounds in benefits has shocked parents and

:52:46. > :52:50.medical professionals. Our reporter Lesley Ashmall

:52:51. > :53:00.can tell us more. Over ten years she abused her little

:53:01. > :53:04.boy saying things like he had ufology problems, asthma, autism and

:53:05. > :53:09.gastric problems. They were prescribed untold quantities of

:53:10. > :53:12.medication, they even had invasive procedures to have feeding tubes

:53:13. > :53:16.inserted into their stomachs, even though they could need perfectly

:53:17. > :53:21.fine. She coached the little boy to behave as she perceived children

:53:22. > :53:26.with autism would behave, so she never toilet trained them. He was

:53:27. > :53:30.still in nappies because she thought children without condition had

:53:31. > :53:35.problems with that. We have heard of parents abusing their children in

:53:36. > :53:39.cases similar to this before. What is different is that this woman, who

:53:40. > :53:43.we can't name to protect the children, could collect benefits. I

:53:44. > :53:48.know, it's one of the largest overpayments to a single person

:53:49. > :53:51.ever. She claims disability allowance, she also claimed she was

:53:52. > :53:56.a single mother needing income support although she had a partner

:53:57. > :54:03.who earned nearly ?40,000 a year and don't forget the cost to the NHS. We

:54:04. > :54:09.are talking nearly ?150,000 worth of unnecessary drugs and treatment and

:54:10. > :54:14.consultancy fees. Huge police investigation involving different

:54:15. > :54:19.agencies. Questions are being asked as to why this did not come to light

:54:20. > :54:23.earlier. A serious case review has been launched because a medical

:54:24. > :54:27.professional raise the alarm, concerns, six years ago, but this

:54:28. > :54:33.current investigation has taken three years, 140 witnesses called

:54:34. > :54:40.altogether, and the man who led it says it's one of the most shocking

:54:41. > :54:43.cases he's ever worked on. The investigation just grew and we were

:54:44. > :54:49.astounded. I certainly remember the day when we decided to enter the

:54:50. > :54:54.house and make the arrest. We saw the actual children, the youngest

:54:55. > :55:00.one drinking out of a baby bottle in a nappy, it just was unique. Leslie,

:55:01. > :55:02.thank you very much. He's a Consultant Paediatrician

:55:03. > :55:12.and he's an expert in cases Good morning to you. People will

:55:13. > :55:20.just want to know how this woman, this mum, could convert the medical

:55:21. > :55:24.professionals and convince them effectively to carry out surgery on

:55:25. > :55:27.her perfectly well children. It does sound completely bizarre. That

:55:28. > :55:31.doctors could be taken in by this kind of thing. The trouble is,

:55:32. > :55:36.doctors depend very much on the history they are given by the parent

:55:37. > :55:38.of the child they are seeing. A lot of medical conditions depend almost

:55:39. > :55:43.exclusively on the history you get from the parent and the children may

:55:44. > :55:52.have very few if any physical signs in between consultants. You do test

:55:53. > :55:58.before you carry out surgery, don't you? A lot of conditions don't have

:55:59. > :56:01.simple tests. It's unusual the parent was alleging autism full we

:56:02. > :56:05.encounter many people who think their children have autism that it's

:56:06. > :56:11.difficult to prove or disprove. I'm talking about the surgery. The

:56:12. > :56:17.little boy had a stomach shrunk by 20% after she convince them that

:56:18. > :56:27.operation was necessary. In fact, the operation, it's the commonest

:56:28. > :56:31.carried out in children. The parent was alleging their child can't eat

:56:32. > :56:35.properly. Vomiting all the time and effort child is losing weight, the

:56:36. > :56:42.doctors will feel compelled to do something about it. They may go

:56:43. > :56:48.ahead as a feeding tube. Right. This woman was doing this for ten years.

:56:49. > :56:51.One medical professional was suspicious and did write to various

:56:52. > :56:57.other medical professionals and only got one reply. The mum was able to

:56:58. > :57:02.continue treating their children and abusing them in this way. Yes,

:57:03. > :57:06.unfortunately, that is very much the way these things go. Very often

:57:07. > :57:10.people have concerns that they are not able to persuade other people of

:57:11. > :57:17.their concerns or get somebody to take the case on and have a careful

:57:18. > :57:21.look at it. Are you alarmed by that? I'm afraid I've seen many things

:57:22. > :57:26.over the years and I have ceased to be alarmed by things. You're not

:57:27. > :57:31.alarmed that colleagues would not take another colleague concerns

:57:32. > :57:33.seriously? I think we need to do better. It sounds like they were

:57:34. > :57:39.deficiencies in this case but there is a believability angle here.

:57:40. > :57:43.Often, when you go to other people and say I think this parent to beat

:57:44. > :57:47.fabricating their child illness, they think you are mad, but the

:57:48. > :57:52.child has a real medical conditions and you are not clever enough to

:57:53. > :57:57.work it out. Right, so that's what some medical professionals think of

:57:58. > :58:03.their colleagues? I wouldn't say it about the medical colleagues. There

:58:04. > :58:08.is a believability, one colleague may be concerned and the other may

:58:09. > :58:11.say, are you sure you haven't ruled out a certain medical condition?

:58:12. > :58:16.Should we do other tests and ask for a second opinion? I think it's

:58:17. > :58:22.wrong. I've argued for years we need to express our concerns and most of

:58:23. > :58:26.all, avoid harming children until we have ruled out the possibility of

:58:27. > :58:32.child abuse. What sort of physical and psychological damage could this

:58:33. > :58:36.do to these children, do you think? Obviously, I can't, it on an

:58:37. > :58:39.individual case, but we know from research done years ago the outcome

:58:40. > :58:47.of the children after this is very poor. Probably one quarter carried

:58:48. > :58:50.on having limiting symptoms after they've been protected from the

:58:51. > :58:55.abuse. Some of the children end up dead or even severely disabled.

:58:56. > :59:02.Goodness. Thank you very much for talking to us. Doctor Paul Davies, a

:59:03. > :59:06.consultant paediatrician. That's mother has just been jailed for

:59:07. > :59:09.seven and a half years. It's coming up to ten o'clock. The latest

:59:10. > :59:16.Olympic news and the rest of the day 's news before that, the weather.

:59:17. > :59:29.Thank you. I'm going to let you enjoy more of this.

:59:30. > :59:33.normal bloke, a photojournalist from Denmark?

:59:34. > :59:39.Just a little more cloud towards the eastern side of the British Isles,

:59:40. > :59:44.coming in from the North Sea. As the heat of the day pours through, we

:59:45. > :59:49.will bubble up with the more cloud. Essentially, a glorious, fine day. A

:59:50. > :59:55.bit breezy across some western areas and the Channel coast. Watch out for

:59:56. > :00:01.the UV strength, quite powerful. Across the West Midlands, 28, the

:00:02. > :00:05.Highlands and the Moray coast, 25. More cloud bringing rain into

:00:06. > :00:10.Northern Ireland and eventually floating into the south-west of

:00:11. > :00:13.England and Wales. Elsewhere, another fine, warm day, with perhaps

:00:14. > :00:14.the highest of the temperatures towards the eastern side of the

:00:15. > :00:21.British Isles. Hello, it's Tuesday,

:00:22. > :00:22.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, More medals for Team GB

:00:23. > :00:39.in the dressage, cycling and hammer. Mark Cavendish scoops up the final

:00:40. > :00:44.point on offer, which makes sure that he has the silver medal for

:00:45. > :00:53.Great Britain. After all the effort and after all the Olympic heartache,

:00:54. > :00:57.Mark Cavendish has an Olympic medal. What a wonderful throw! She is

:00:58. > :01:01.guaranteed the bronze medal. We will bring you up to date with all of the

:01:02. > :01:06.action. Plus which gold medal takes the most hard work, dedication and

:01:07. > :01:10.training to achieve? Our group of experts across sports including

:01:11. > :01:14.track and field, cycling, rowing and gymnastics will all tell us why

:01:15. > :01:21.their sport requires the hardest work ball! -- hardest work of all!

:01:22. > :01:23.Held captured and tortured by the group calling

:01:24. > :01:25.itself Islamic State - in the second part of our exclusive

:01:26. > :01:27.interview former hostage Daniel Rye tells us about his ordeal.

:01:28. > :01:32.When you think about what will happen when you get kidnapped by a

:01:33. > :01:40.group like that, torture is the first thing that comes up in your

:01:41. > :01:42.mind. So, yes, there was torture. We will bring you the rest of his

:01:43. > :01:44.interview after 10:30am. And a man is facing jail today

:01:45. > :01:47.after threatening to kill a Labour MP the day before Jo Cox was shot

:01:48. > :01:50.and killed in her constituency. We'll talk to that MP -

:01:51. > :01:53.Ben Bradshaw - about death threats Great Britain's Mark Cavendish

:01:54. > :02:08.achieved his ambition of winning an Olympic medal by taking silver

:02:09. > :02:13.in the omnium. The Manxman missed out on a medal

:02:14. > :02:24.in his previous two Games. He won four world titles and one

:02:25. > :02:26.Commonwealth in his career previously.

:02:27. > :02:29.He admitted it would have been nice to finish the collection

:02:30. > :02:32.with a gold and says, "I don't think I'll be going

:02:33. > :02:38.I can't do that cycling thing again, the Olympics.

:02:39. > :02:41.I don't know, I said that eight years ago.

:02:42. > :02:46.I said I would retire at some point but when I get home people will get

:02:47. > :02:50.sick of me and tell me to get back on my bike, so...

:02:51. > :02:52.Laura Trott could go one better in the women's omnium.

:02:53. > :02:54.She leads at the halfway stage of the event.

:02:55. > :02:57.The 24-year-old is now just three races away from claiming a fourth

:02:58. > :02:59.Olympic gold medal, 48 hours after she became the first

:03:00. > :03:02.Trott finished second in the scratch race,

:03:03. > :03:12.won the individual pursuit and then easily won the elimination race.

:03:13. > :03:18.Charlotte Dujardin joined Laura Trott on three Olympic gold medals

:03:19. > :03:27.by retaining her individual dressage title in Rio. The 31-year-old won

:03:28. > :03:31.gold on her horse Valegro. She was ahead of two Germans, who took

:03:32. > :03:36.silver and bronze respectively. Charlotte Dujardin amp won team

:03:37. > :03:39.dressage gold four years ago in London.

:03:40. > :03:44.London, I had no expectation or pressure. Today I felt a huge amount

:03:45. > :03:50.of pressure and expectation. For me, it could be one of the last rites on

:03:51. > :03:55.Valegro. There is the talk of retirement for him. So for me to

:03:56. > :03:56.finish in this way, it is really emotional.

:03:57. > :03:59.Diego Costa's late strike gave Antonio Conte a dramatic winning

:04:00. > :04:01.start as Chelsea manager with his side taking three points

:04:02. > :04:04.in their season-opener against West Ham with a 2-1 victory.

:04:05. > :04:06.With 89 minutes on the clock, the Spain striker picked up

:04:07. > :04:09.Michy Batchuiyi's header and found the net from 20 yards to spark wild

:04:10. > :04:16.Eden Hazard had put Chelsea in front from the spot before James Collins

:04:17. > :04:37.To start a new season with a victory, it is very important. The

:04:38. > :04:46.last season was very bad. When you have a bad season it remains in the

:04:47. > :05:02.mind of the players. A very sloppy goal. To be at 1-1

:05:03. > :05:10.until the second goal, we were at least controlling the game. Make no

:05:11. > :05:15.mistake, you are big disappointed when you concede a late goal. But

:05:16. > :05:18.they were better than us tonight. A winning start for Chelsea in the

:05:19. > :05:21.Premier League, I will have the headlines at 10:30am.

:05:22. > :05:23.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:05:24. > :05:26.The UK's inflation rate, as measured by Consumer Prices Index,

:05:27. > :05:29.rose to 0.6% in July, official figures show.

:05:30. > :05:34.That compares with a rate of 0.5% in June.

:05:35. > :05:36.Let's go live now to the BBC Business Centre and speak

:05:37. > :05:42.to our correspondent Jamie Robertson.

:05:43. > :05:49.Jamie, tell us what this means? The inflation rate is a little bit of a

:05:50. > :05:53.surprise. We thought it would pretty much stayed the same. Two figures

:05:54. > :05:58.you have to look at, the consumer price inflation and retail price

:05:59. > :06:03.inflation. It is the RPI, the second one, on which things like train

:06:04. > :06:10.fares are set. That has jumped up in June, the yearly figure was 1.6%, it

:06:11. > :06:16.has gone up to 1.9%. That is a figure on which increases in 2017,

:06:17. > :06:22.lots of train prices, not all, but about half of them, particularly

:06:23. > :06:29.commuter fares, will be based. The consumer price inflation figure,

:06:30. > :06:32.0.6%, up a bit from 0.5%. What is interesting is that people thought

:06:33. > :06:37.it would take a little bit longer for the fall in the pound to bring

:06:38. > :06:39.in these inflationary pressures which are beginning to show

:06:40. > :06:46.themselves sooner than people thought. We thought that the slump

:06:47. > :06:49.in the pound which would make imports more expensive would feed

:06:50. > :06:52.through more gradually into the economy, but at the moment they seem

:06:53. > :06:57.to be coming through really quite quickly. Thank you very much, Jamie.

:06:58. > :07:00.The last Western hostage to be released alive by the self-styled

:07:01. > :07:02.Islamic State group says he feels sorry for so-called Jihadi John

:07:03. > :07:06.Photographer Daniel Rye travelled to Syria in 2013 to try and document

:07:07. > :07:09.the lives of people affected by the civil war when he was seized

:07:10. > :07:13.We'll show you the second part of his exclusive interview with this

:07:14. > :07:19.The police watchdog is investigating the death of the former footballer

:07:20. > :07:22.Dalian Atkinson after he was shot with a taser by officers

:07:23. > :07:25.The former Aston Villa striker, who was 48,

:07:26. > :07:35.It's reported he was having dialysis treatment for kidney problems.

:07:36. > :07:38.US Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has called for extreme

:07:39. > :07:40.vetting of immigrants to the United States.

:07:41. > :07:44.In a speech in Ohio, he outlined his plans

:07:45. > :07:46.to combat Islamic extremism, including a new screening test

:07:47. > :07:50.He said applicants would be tested to determine if they share

:07:51. > :07:58.His rival Hillary Clinton called the plan a cynical ploy.

:07:59. > :08:00.15 people have been transferred from the Guantanamo Bay

:08:01. > :08:04.detention centre in Cuba, to the United Arab Emirates.

:08:05. > :08:06.The release of the 12 Yemeni nationals and three Afghans

:08:07. > :08:08.is the largest single transfer of detainees during

:08:09. > :08:15.61 people remain at the facility, which Mr Obama has

:08:16. > :08:20.pledged to close, despite opposition from the Republicans.

:08:21. > :08:22.Viruses could be more dangerous if people become

:08:23. > :08:26.infected in the morning, new research indicates.

:08:27. > :08:29.Scientists from Cambridge University found that viral levels in animals

:08:30. > :08:31.were ten times higher if they had been infected

:08:32. > :08:35.in the early hours, rather than another time of day.

:08:36. > :08:38.They also found that shift workers have a higher risk

:08:39. > :08:41.of infection, because their body clocks are disrupted.

:08:42. > :08:48.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30am.

:08:49. > :08:50.The Olympic gold medal - it's what every single

:08:51. > :08:53.athlete in Rio is desperate to get their hands on.

:08:54. > :08:55.Team GB athletes have got 16 of them so far.

:08:56. > :08:57.But are some gold medals more valuable than others?

:08:58. > :09:03.Do some athletes have to train and sacrifice far more than others?

:09:04. > :09:06.How do you compare, for example, four hours on the tennis court

:09:07. > :09:09.to win a gold with ten seconds on the running track

:09:10. > :09:17.This morning we're going to try and examine the training programme

:09:18. > :09:19.which goes into winning some of the most high profile medals

:09:20. > :09:23.in athletics, cycling, rowing, swimming, tennis and golf.

:09:24. > :09:26.But first here's an idea of just how much winning gold means

:09:27. > :09:50.I work hard and spend a lot of time away from my family and everything.

:09:51. > :09:55.You know, that one moment could be gone, it is not in your control. I

:09:56. > :10:05.just had to believe in myself, get through it. I wanted to do it for my

:10:06. > :10:10.kids. COMMENTATOR: Oceans of clear blue water between Adam Peaty and

:10:11. > :10:13.the rest of the world. Utterly brilliant, fantastic. Adam Peaty

:10:14. > :10:18.takes Olympic gold for Great Britain by an absolute street.

:10:19. > :10:21.It is a product of seven years of work. More importantly, I did it for

:10:22. > :10:40.my country, it means so much to me. The overriding emotion for me is

:10:41. > :10:46.relief, relief that this day is over, this week, this build-up, this

:10:47. > :10:50.four years leading up to it. It is literally four years, 350 Daisy

:10:51. > :10:55.Dick, building up to this moment, that six minutes, then it is over.

:10:56. > :11:01.COMMENTATOR: He has taken a breath, he knows he just needs to land this

:11:02. > :11:06.tumble. Fabulous landing, what a

:11:07. > :11:10.performance. Hours and hours, years and years in the gym, you get about

:11:11. > :11:15.one minute to show what you have been working on. To do it today, I

:11:16. > :11:20.don't know what to say, I am so happy. COMMENTATOR: It will

:11:21. > :11:25.certainly be Great Britain, Britain and a world record time! The awesome

:11:26. > :11:28.foursome have done it. Gold for Britain once more.

:11:29. > :11:37.The last 12 months, we've pretty much done everything together,

:11:38. > :11:40.training camps at altitude, early starts, late finishes up the track

:11:41. > :11:51.before Christmas Day, and all for this, you know.

:11:52. > :11:52.Band -- BAND PLAYS GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.

:11:53. > :11:55.OK, so let's try and work out how hard athletes have to work

:11:56. > :11:58.to get their hands on one of those precious golds.

:11:59. > :12:02.going to break it down now into some of the key sports and key figures

:12:03. > :12:09.The fastest man in the world won his gold medal in the 100 metres

:12:10. > :12:13.But how hard does he have to work to get

:12:14. > :12:17.He trains for 3 hours a day, 6 days a week.

:12:18. > :12:20.Each day's programme includes a 90 minute gym session which is designed

:12:21. > :12:22.towards developing explosiveness to maintain his top speed

:12:23. > :12:35.Well you may remember his Beijing olympic golds were fuelled

:12:36. > :12:38.These days he consumes around 5000 calories

:12:39. > :12:42.Compare that then to Mo Farah Mo Farah runs around 120

:12:43. > :12:50.A typical day can consist of a 10 mile morning run and a 6 mile

:12:51. > :13:06.Plus mid-week interval training up hills so he can fine

:13:07. > :13:09.On top of that he has one hour conditioning sessions several

:13:10. > :13:14.Mo Farah also spends several months away from home and his family each

:13:15. > :13:16.year, as he trains at high altitude camps out of the country.

:13:17. > :13:24.A more modest 2,500 to 3,500 a day - which even allows room for the odd

:13:25. > :13:28.Sticking with the track - what about Jess Ennis-Hill?

:13:29. > :13:31.She famously came back to win the world championships

:13:32. > :13:33.a year after giving birth to her son Reggie -

:13:34. > :13:38.She began training again three months after he was born and now

:13:39. > :13:40.trains twice a day - once in the morning and once

:13:41. > :13:44.in the evening in a gym in her garage once her son has

:13:45. > :13:47.Training for a heptathlon involves practising for seven track and field

:13:48. > :14:00.events and honing technique for each discipline.

:14:01. > :14:02.Away from the track - the most decorated Olympian

:14:03. > :14:05.of all time Michael Phelps is usually in the pool by 6:30 am

:14:06. > :14:09.where he swims for an average 6 hours - that's around 8 miles a day.

:14:10. > :14:11.And he consumes a whopping 12,000 calories - that's over quadruple

:14:12. > :14:16.Over the space of one five year period he trained every single day -

:14:17. > :14:18.without taking a single day off - no Christmas, holiday

:14:19. > :14:26.He did this because he worked out he would gain an extra 54 days worth

:14:27. > :14:31.the amazing American gymnast Simone Biles She trains up to 50

:14:32. > :14:39.hours a week - with gruelling sessions 6 days a week.

:14:40. > :14:42.Her coach says she's never worked with an athlete more committed

:14:43. > :14:45.Simone's routines are so difficult that she could even

:14:46. > :14:49.She is said to treat herself with a peperoni pizza

:14:50. > :14:54.He's the first male tennis player to ever win back

:14:55. > :15:01.To be the best, he trains for over six hours a day,

:15:02. > :15:04.on court, in the gym - even doing a bit of pilates too.

:15:05. > :15:07.His training programme can be so intense that he will work out

:15:08. > :15:10.on the step machine to the point of virtual collapse

:15:11. > :15:13.to make sure he's got the stamina for an epic match.

:15:14. > :15:20.This can include a whopping 50 pieces of sushi after a match.

:15:21. > :15:28.Let's quickly look at some other sports

:15:29. > :15:31.starting with rowers and Helen Glover.

:15:32. > :15:32.Rowers are famed for seriously

:15:33. > :15:37.Team GB's Helen Glover says she trains up to 3 times a day

:15:38. > :15:40.mixing it up between being out on the water and lifting

:15:41. > :15:47.That's double what the NHS recommend for an average woman.

:15:48. > :15:53.to win three Olympic gold medals - and she could add another before

:15:54. > :15:55.the end of Rio - so what does that take?

:15:56. > :15:58.Six hours training a day both in the gym and out

:15:59. > :16:01.cycling on the road - and a high carb and protein diet.

:16:02. > :16:04.After 112 years, golf is again an Olympic sport and Team GB's

:16:05. > :16:08.He says there's no way you can succeed at golf

:16:09. > :16:12.He regularly trains hard at the gym lifting weights

:16:13. > :16:23.Let's talk now to a group of people who are going to try and persuade us

:16:24. > :16:28.With us here, Paul Mill, a cycling trainer.

:16:29. > :16:49.And professor Amuelle Maracora, an endurance expert.

:16:50. > :16:58.Why are you going to pitch cycling is the hardest gold to get? I think

:16:59. > :17:01.a lot of it would be, from my perspective would be the endurance

:17:02. > :17:05.and the weather and the climate you have to train in a lot of the time.

:17:06. > :17:09.Especially in the UK, we have to go through variable climates and stuff

:17:10. > :17:13.like that and also in the clip we saw there with Brad talking about

:17:14. > :17:19.altitude camps and stuff, having to train from environment to

:17:20. > :17:28.environment, change things, I would say cycling is very much up there at

:17:29. > :17:33.the top. There are similarities. You would say rowing would equal that.

:17:34. > :17:36.Definitely, there is a solidarity amongst the swimmers, cyclists and

:17:37. > :17:42.rowers, it's brutal and tough and is a huge volume, so there's basically

:17:43. > :17:45.three sessions a day. Two hours in the water, then maybe two hours on

:17:46. > :17:49.the rowing machine and then two hours in the gym lifting weights in

:17:50. > :17:54.the afternoon. That's basically everyday. There is no bank holidays,

:17:55. > :18:00.no Christmas, which probably goes across all sports. We're outdoors

:18:01. > :18:06.and all-weathers and you are using all the muscles in your body. It's

:18:07. > :18:10.endurance. When you need speed and power, so you have to cover all the

:18:11. > :18:14.volume side of things or that base level of endurance and the ability

:18:15. > :18:21.to sprint so you can move them get out of the start fast and hopefully

:18:22. > :18:32.get those medals at the end. Steve, golf? We need a lot of endurance but

:18:33. > :18:38.golf is very technical. It requires a greater range of disciplines. They

:18:39. > :18:43.need to be athletes now at the top of their game. The game has got

:18:44. > :18:47.longer, the players have got stronger, they propel the ball

:18:48. > :18:53.tremendous distances. In the men's game, over 300 yards. There's no

:18:54. > :18:57.room now to think you can get away on your talent. You have got to

:18:58. > :19:02.train hard. Golf requires great coordination. It's a very technical

:19:03. > :19:08.sport. Not only do you need to propel the ball, it's about having a

:19:09. > :19:13.feeling and attach, and that takes an immense time to develop. A lot of

:19:14. > :19:18.training hours. One of the biggest things about golf, because the ball

:19:19. > :19:22.starts and stops stationery, we can measure everything about it, so we

:19:23. > :19:28.have to find you the golfer. Some golfers will need conditioning

:19:29. > :19:31.programmes so need more help with their coaching and some may need

:19:32. > :19:34.more help with their long game so it depends on the player. Certainly,

:19:35. > :19:43.the young players in England are very committed. Golf has not been an

:19:44. > :19:48.Olympic game for so long now, but for us to add to the tally is pretty

:19:49. > :19:53.good. The 200 metres sprinter, winning gold at the Commonwealth

:19:54. > :19:57.Games in Delhi. In terms of sprinting, on the track, how does it

:19:58. > :20:08.compare when you talk about the training to the rowing and the

:20:09. > :20:13.cycling? I think there's problems, longer running at the beginning of

:20:14. > :20:18.the season. A lot of speed, power, skill, coordination, required to run

:20:19. > :20:23.at the highest level. If you look at the likes of Usain Bolt, Justin

:20:24. > :20:26.Gatlin, those guys get out of the blocks very, very fast, and it's a

:20:27. > :20:33.skill they have two practice time and time and time again. They work

:20:34. > :20:41.with some of the best to improve their performances. What is a

:20:42. > :20:49.biometrics? It measures how fast you are running. They will do that on a

:20:50. > :20:56.regular basis. Like everyone here, you have to find thousands of the

:20:57. > :21:04.second but the training will go through your energy system. It is

:21:05. > :21:09.tough. For myself, I would run 300 metres in training and that, for me,

:21:10. > :21:16.was three times my distance. The 100 metres. Everyone here, if you add

:21:17. > :21:20.that up, people will run three times the distance, quite a lot in

:21:21. > :21:29.comparison. It doesn't sound like a lot but if you were... It's only 300

:21:30. > :21:34.metres, come on, blimey! Talk to us about endurance events including

:21:35. > :21:39.long-distance and swimming. I agree with my colleagues for the

:21:40. > :21:46.endurance, it's the hardest sport in term of training. I have scientific

:21:47. > :21:51.evidence for that. There was overtraining syndrome where people

:21:52. > :21:57.get chronic fatigue. It can ruin their careers and it's prevalent in

:21:58. > :22:05.newer sports. It seems that the amount of training, and I study

:22:06. > :22:11.mental fatigue, and the mental effort training requires can induce

:22:12. > :22:16.this state that you see in other sports. I do know if any body watch

:22:17. > :22:21.the documentary about Mo Farah and he was overtraining and his coach

:22:22. > :22:31.was saying, you need to stop now and he wanted to carry on mentioning

:22:32. > :22:37.Michael Phelps. Although it may be negative not to train that hard, not

:22:38. > :22:41.doing it and feeling you give an advantage to your competitors might

:22:42. > :22:47.have a psychological effect. It reduces your confidence that you

:22:48. > :22:50.will do better than them so we need to weigh the physiological effects

:22:51. > :22:57.on training where the psychological ones. You agree? Yes, it was a great

:22:58. > :23:07.insight, the Mo Farah documentary, because it showed that he was a

:23:08. > :23:12.person who was overtraining and he had the stuff around him to tell him

:23:13. > :23:16.that. As athletes, sometimes you might think you're not doing as much

:23:17. > :23:19.as you should be doing. In fact, you are full to be good almost get a

:23:20. > :23:24.little bit obsessed and think I need to do more and more and sometimes,

:23:25. > :23:28.that's not the case because you are at risk of injury, illnesses. And

:23:29. > :23:32.that's something you don't want to miss, the Olympic Games. Thankfully,

:23:33. > :23:40.he done really well a few days ago. He showed that all our hard work is

:23:41. > :23:43.doing is paying off. With the whole of the Olympics itself, whenever

:23:44. > :23:46.anyone gets gold, the first thing they do is thank their team and

:23:47. > :23:51.their support because without that, they wouldn't be winning gold

:23:52. > :23:54.medals, without a doubt. You do need coaches who will slow you down and

:23:55. > :24:00.take a back-seat and make you slow down on the training regime. If you

:24:01. > :24:04.don't, you're not going to achieve gold. I think that is across all

:24:05. > :24:09.sports now, the support behind it, it's massive. You also need to

:24:10. > :24:13.quantify the psychological effort and I think this is what is coming

:24:14. > :24:17.out now, although we started off saying how many hours a day do you

:24:18. > :24:21.do, there's no end to the psychological preparation? After

:24:22. > :24:25.those sessions, you might have specific video techniques or tactic

:24:26. > :24:28.sessions but you're also in your mind thinking, did I do that session

:24:29. > :24:34.well enough and how can I do the best one better and where can I get

:24:35. > :24:37.an edge? Where can I do something in a smarter way? The psychological

:24:38. > :24:42.training never stops and it's what food you eat, how well you sleep,

:24:43. > :24:47.recover, that is 24 seven. And that really came out when you saw Alex

:24:48. > :24:56.Gregory, the men's roller saying, it's four years, he was... His

:24:57. > :24:59.motion was relief winning the gold, not euphoria celebration, that will

:25:00. > :25:04.come, of course, and he knows what it feels like, but absolute relief

:25:05. > :25:08.about that for years was not wasted in that six minutes. That is

:25:09. > :25:14.pressure. Then there is oppression if you don't succeed, as well some

:25:15. > :25:17.of these guys may go through two Olympic cycles, eight years, and may

:25:18. > :25:23.have the opportunity to go for another one. How'd you build up for

:25:24. > :25:30.another four years, when you don't achieve, that's difficult? That's

:25:31. > :25:34.where psychologists play their part. Learning from previous mistakes that

:25:35. > :25:40.you've done past also. Also, it's not just about the training on the

:25:41. > :25:44.track and the swimming pool, on the boat, but the whole amount of

:25:45. > :25:51.psychological stress, self-control and athlete has, in terms of diet,

:25:52. > :25:58.if you put weight on, to control yourself, this is very tiring.

:25:59. > :26:07.Mentally. You need to take that into account as an athlete. I've just

:26:08. > :26:11.published recently some work which found a lead road cyclists, not only

:26:12. > :26:19.have better muscle resistance to fatigue and stronger hearts etc, but

:26:20. > :26:25.also more resistant at brain level. How does that work? We don't know

:26:26. > :26:33.why, it's properly a mix of genetics and training. You train your brain.

:26:34. > :26:40.We don't know exactly but there was a clear difference. The lower level

:26:41. > :26:45.athletes get mental fatigue and their performance suffered when we

:26:46. > :26:47.ask them to do a taxing cognitive task but the elite athletes didn't

:26:48. > :26:53.full service not just about the muscle but are very much about how

:26:54. > :26:57.well you are up here and how fatigue resistant you are in your brain.

:26:58. > :27:05.When you stop and retire, give it all up, do you lose all those

:27:06. > :27:08.skills? Training your brain? You do. You try to transfer it into other

:27:09. > :27:14.things but you inheritance we have that desire to do it a little bit

:27:15. > :27:20.better. -- inherently. Could I do it better? Now I'm a mother, that are

:27:21. > :27:24.very difficult thing because I can always do things a lot better. It's

:27:25. > :27:29.part of your mindset how you look at things. That's a great skill to work

:27:30. > :27:35.in the world which is why it retired athlete are fantastic resources

:27:36. > :27:39.because if you can get that discipline, that focus, ability to

:27:40. > :27:43.work with others translated, there's no end to what they can achieve in

:27:44. > :27:50.other fields should they choose to. I certainly agree the golfers get to

:27:51. > :27:55.the top and have a great advantage in our sport that there's not a

:27:56. > :27:59.retirement age people can go on and be competitive, and major winners go

:28:00. > :28:03.into their 30s so it's not unusual, Tom Watson, less than a decade

:28:04. > :28:09.nearly won a major at 59 on the seniors tour. And they can now help

:28:10. > :28:13.children into the game through coaching. We are very lucky in that

:28:14. > :28:22.respect. It's a game for life, perhaps, than some of the other

:28:23. > :28:28.sports. I would like to say, mental strength everybody talks about that

:28:29. > :28:39.edge, athletes, elite ones, it's true, however a lot of it is

:28:40. > :28:44.probably genetic. There was a thing on you tube about children trying to

:28:45. > :28:55.resist eating marshmallows. With kids? Three years old. Forget! There

:28:56. > :29:00.was a lot of outcomes later on in life, the ones who resisted, did

:29:01. > :29:05.better. People think genetics is about muscle and height, whatever,

:29:06. > :29:10.but it's also about the brain. Your ability to control yourself. Don't

:29:11. > :29:17.give up. It's very much, largely genetic. This has come from Ipswich

:29:18. > :29:22.fencing, I wonder what they are going to say? Fencing required

:29:23. > :29:28.speed, whilst trying to use precision timing and strategy. This

:29:29. > :29:33.e-mail from Gareth, sailors can only get one medal per Olympic Games and

:29:34. > :29:37.have two sailors many as 13 races over a period of a week or more

:29:38. > :29:41.sometimes, and it requires high intellectual ability whilst pushing

:29:42. > :29:44.your body to the limits. John on Facebook said, do some athletes

:29:45. > :29:52.train harder than others? Possibly. Because they have to have a natural

:29:53. > :29:58.ability than others also. There's a whole new area we could go into

:29:59. > :30:02.there. For another day, perhaps. So, there's no point me asking for a

:30:03. > :30:10.conclusion but I'm going to ask you for a conclusion. Is there a sport

:30:11. > :30:15.here, whether it is sprinting, golf, rowing, cycling, endurance events,

:30:16. > :30:19.which requires more training, more dedication, more commitment?

:30:20. > :30:25.It is the type of training. Different sports have different

:30:26. > :30:29.amounts. There are lots of psychological traits going on that

:30:30. > :30:34.we can all familiarise with, it all depends on the nature of the sport

:30:35. > :30:40.and the discipline required to be successful. It is hard to measure.

:30:41. > :30:44.If I was to try to do golf, I would find it extremely hard. Maybe if you

:30:45. > :30:51.were to try sprinting, you might find that odd. I think that is true!

:30:52. > :30:55.I love rowing, I love being on a boat, love being on a river. I could

:30:56. > :30:59.not translate that to something else because it was a bit less training.

:31:00. > :31:03.There is a 24-hour commitment for all these sports, there are

:31:04. > :31:07.differences but it is a huge life commitment to be the best in the

:31:08. > :31:11.world at what you want to do. That is a nice conclusion, I will take

:31:12. > :31:17.that. Thank you all! We have mentioned

:31:18. > :31:20.boxing when it comes to how hard athletes work and train. Nicola

:31:21. > :31:26.Adams' work ethic is never in question. She hopes to become the

:31:27. > :31:31.first female boxer ever to win gold in the sport. Women's boxing made

:31:32. > :31:35.its debut at London 2012. We went to train with her and get some tips on

:31:36. > :31:50.how to box. This is my signature move.

:31:51. > :31:55.I'm really excited, it is a chance for me to hopefully become a double

:31:56. > :32:01.Olympic champion. It has never been done before, I would love to add

:32:02. > :32:07.that piece of history to my belt. In boxing defence, you can slip, you

:32:08. > :32:12.can roll, hand offences, step away. How do you feel that you are an

:32:13. > :32:17.inspiration to women doing boxing now? It was a weird feeling at

:32:18. > :32:23.first, but I think it is nice. When I was growing up, there was not any

:32:24. > :32:30.female Olympic champions for me to look up to. Nicola Adams puts boxing

:32:31. > :32:34.gloves on me. It has taken some time for women's sport to progress, but I

:32:35. > :32:45.am glad that everybody is starting to see it and publicise it more.

:32:46. > :32:49.Look down. Start again. I was quite lucky, my coach did not mind me

:32:50. > :32:53.being a female and boxing in the gym. With some of the other girls,

:32:54. > :32:59.they got turned away from gins and they said no, women are not allowed

:33:00. > :33:05.to box. But you kept going, you did not give up? Yes. My coaches were

:33:06. > :33:11.always really good. They said there is no male or female here, only

:33:12. > :33:18.boxers. You can hit harder than that!

:33:19. > :33:22.No pressure. This time around, I will be a lot more confident. I feel

:33:23. > :33:30.a more rounded athlete. I have done in one Olympics already, I know what

:33:31. > :33:36.it is like, I know what to expect. Nicola takes to the ring today,

:33:37. > :33:39.follow her progress on BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Four, the sports website,

:33:40. > :33:40.Radio 5 live. You know the drill. Yesterday we bought

:33:41. > :33:44.you news of a marriage Race walker Tom Bosworth,

:33:45. > :33:48.whose story we've been following since he came out on this

:33:49. > :33:51.programme last year, popped the big question

:33:52. > :33:54.to his partner, Harry. Charlotte Dujardin got yet another

:33:55. > :34:15.proposal from her boyfriend. You will have seen him on the telly,

:34:16. > :34:16.can we get married now? He is sick of waiting.

:34:17. > :34:19.Elsewhere on social media, lots of love for this guy

:34:20. > :34:42.That was Kiribati weightlifter David Katoatau.

:34:43. > :34:53.And here is how the Kazakhstan he weightlifters celebrated.

:34:54. > :34:55.COMMENTATOR: A world record, the roof is coming off the plays,

:34:56. > :34:58.deservedly so. What a performance! And just how good are these

:34:59. > :35:12.two at diving? Do you see what's a man has done?

:35:13. > :35:17.Dived into a cup! -- what someone has done. That is how good the

:35:18. > :35:19.Chinese are at diving! Let's have a look at another

:35:20. > :35:22.dive featuring no water. Have a look at Shaunae Miller's

:35:23. > :35:25.amazing dive across the finishing Look at this picture

:35:26. > :35:34.which really captures it. And this is Michael Johnson's

:35:35. > :35:43.response. And here's one person's

:35:44. > :35:50.take on her dive. When there's one piece of pizza left

:35:51. > :35:55.family dinner. The second part of exclusive

:35:56. > :35:58.interview with the man held captive by Isis -

:35:59. > :36:00.former captive Daniel Rye tells us he never imagined

:36:01. > :36:11.he could come out alive. Here's some sport

:36:12. > :36:13.now with Will Perry. Great Britain's Mark Cavendish

:36:14. > :36:15.achieved his ambition of winning an Olympic medal by taking silver

:36:16. > :36:18.in the omnium. The Manxman missed out on the podium

:36:19. > :36:22.in his previous two Games. Having won four world titles and one

:36:23. > :36:24.commonwealth he admitted it would have been nice to finish

:36:25. > :36:28.the collection with a gold and says, "I don't think I'll be

:36:29. > :36:33.going for Tokyo but you never know." Defending champion Laura Trott leads

:36:34. > :36:39.the women's omnium at the halfway Trott's now three races away

:36:40. > :36:43.from claiming a fourth Olympic gold the first British

:36:44. > :36:49.woman to win three. Charlotte Dujardin is now

:36:50. > :36:51.level with Trott, picking up her thirrd Olympic gold

:36:52. > :36:54.by retaining her individual She won aboard her 14-year-old horse

:36:55. > :37:00.Valegro. And Sophie Hitchon became the first

:37:01. > :37:03.British woman to win an Olympic hammer medal by taking bronze,

:37:04. > :37:06.throwing a new British record on her final attempt to climb

:37:07. > :37:12.from fifth to third. They are the headlines,

:37:13. > :37:14.I'll have an Olympic round up for you on the BBC

:37:15. > :37:18.News Channel at 11am. Earlier in the programme we heard

:37:19. > :37:25.the first part of an exclusive interview with Daniel Rye,

:37:26. > :37:27.a Danish photographer who was kidnapped and held hostage

:37:28. > :37:29.by Isis for 13 months. He was captured along with other

:37:30. > :37:31.hostages including US journalist James Foley,

:37:32. > :37:34.British taxi driver Alan Henning and aid worker David Haines,

:37:35. > :37:38.all of whom were murdered by IS. At his lowest point in captivity,

:37:39. > :37:41.Daniel Rye tried to take his own life rather than face weeks,

:37:42. > :37:48.months or potentially years more torture at the hands

:37:49. > :37:50.of so-called Jihadi John, Mr Rye tells us today that

:37:51. > :37:54.despite the vicious cruelty he endured, he feels sorry

:37:55. > :37:57.for Jihadi John, whose real name was Mohammed Emwazi -

:37:58. > :38:00.brought up in London and reportedly He said he'd want to sit down

:38:01. > :38:08.with his kidnappers and ask why they treated him

:38:09. > :38:10.with such brutality. Daniel Rye's family eventually his

:38:11. > :38:14.family raised enough money - over ?1 million -

:38:15. > :38:23.to secure his release. -- Daniel Rye 's family eventually

:38:24. > :38:24.raised enough money to secure his release.

:38:25. > :38:27.In the second part of his first British interview, Mr Rye explained

:38:28. > :38:31.how he came to terms with what had happened after he was freed.

:38:32. > :38:39.When I was released, I came back to my family. That is not the things

:38:40. > :38:43.that you want to speak about, the first... I don't want to sit down

:38:44. > :38:47.and tell my mum Halai try to kill myself and stuff like this, she

:38:48. > :38:55.didn't want to sit down and tell how she was crying behind a container

:38:56. > :39:00.where she was working. So the person who wrote the book, having them

:39:01. > :39:04.sitting down and doing very much in-depth interviews with both me and

:39:05. > :39:08.then my family, put it together in a book that both of us could read. I

:39:09. > :39:13.have written things in my book that I did not know anything about it all

:39:14. > :39:19.-- I have read things in that book. And my mum wrote to me and she said,

:39:20. > :39:25.I did not know it was that bad. As, she always thinks the best scenario

:39:26. > :39:30.for her son, of course. -- as a mum. So far is to know each other's story

:39:31. > :39:35.was very important for me. They had to raise the money, because the

:39:36. > :39:40.Danish government, like the American and British governments, will not

:39:41. > :39:44.pay ransom is all hostages. Before I left for Syria I had kidnapping

:39:45. > :39:49.insurance which was supposed to help me in case of some of the small

:39:50. > :39:55.groups, but suddenly I was taken by Isis and the insurance did not last

:39:56. > :40:03.at all. A bigger power had to help me. You had to give answers to three

:40:04. > :40:07.what are described as proof of life questions so that your family would

:40:08. > :40:12.know you were still alive and it was worth raising this money. And

:40:13. > :40:15.through the help of a man called Arthur in the book, they are

:40:16. > :40:20.effectively having an e-mail conversation with your kidnappers,

:40:21. > :40:25.with Isis, in order to negotiate the money, the drop points and where you

:40:26. > :40:29.will be transported to? When you realised you were going to be

:40:30. > :40:34.released, and I think it was, in fact, so-called Jihadi John who

:40:35. > :40:42.said, OK, Daniel, you are going home, what did you think? Right

:40:43. > :40:48.away, I was very excited. Like, the first thing I was thinking was

:40:49. > :40:54.finally me. It is a very selfish way of thinking, but I have seen... We

:40:55. > :41:03.were 19 guys in the same room, most of us, at that point I had seen ten

:41:04. > :41:09.of my fellow cell-mates going home. So I was like, finally me. And then

:41:10. > :41:14.I stood up, because we always had to face the wall when they came in and

:41:15. > :41:22.spoke to us, and when they left, I stood up, turned around and looked

:41:23. > :41:33.at my friends. The three British guys and three American guys. And

:41:34. > :41:38.then I completely lost all the excitement inside myself. I felt so

:41:39. > :41:46.bad. I felt so ashamed about the feeling I just had. Because, you

:41:47. > :41:49.know, we had this thing that we wanted to leave together. We had

:41:50. > :41:53.this idea that when we're going to be released, we are going to the

:41:54. > :41:59.hotel and we are eating everything from the buffets and having long

:42:00. > :42:05.showers and we just imagines how we would experience this release

:42:06. > :42:10.together. And then suddenly that was not the plan. From the book, it

:42:11. > :42:16.sounds like it was clear to you when you were still in captivity that the

:42:17. > :42:20.British men, the American, they were being treated differently from other

:42:21. > :42:26.nationalities. They were never asked to record a ransom video, they were

:42:27. > :42:33.never asked proof of life questions. Know. So we could see there was a

:42:34. > :42:46.picture starting to appear. That was difficult. That was when you kind of

:42:47. > :42:50.start to face the reality a bit. When Orange Guantanamo Bay style

:42:51. > :42:56.jumpsuits were brought to you all, what did you think at all? It was an

:42:57. > :43:00.awkward situation. I really had to go to the toilet at that point, I

:43:01. > :43:07.remember, so I was not thinking but much. First afterwards we started to

:43:08. > :43:13.talk about it. But you obviously did not know it was a precursor to you

:43:14. > :43:19.being taken to watch one of your friends to be executed? We didn't

:43:20. > :43:26.watch one of our friends being executed. That was a guy we did not

:43:27. > :43:34.know, he just came in from the street, basically. That guy, we did

:43:35. > :43:38.not know. Seeing that man's execution, I remember my feeling was

:43:39. > :43:44.very strange, I felt very relaxed afterwards. I was like, OK, if that

:43:45. > :43:49.is the way it is going to be, it seems like a quiet way, you know? A

:43:50. > :43:55.bullet through the head, it is all over with. You know? At least you

:43:56. > :43:59.had a very clear vision of how it will end. That kind of made me calm

:44:00. > :44:13.down a bit. In a strange way. What do you think it was that kept

:44:14. > :44:16.you going through the 13 months? My friends. It was the fact we were

:44:17. > :44:20.people together for the even though sometimes we hated each other more

:44:21. > :44:26.than anything because we were in a small room, it kept us sane, the

:44:27. > :44:33.thing which helped us. I tried to take my own life after two weeks in

:44:34. > :44:36.captivity. If I had been together whether a person, that person might

:44:37. > :44:41.have said to me, don't do that. We will get through this. So the fact

:44:42. > :44:49.that every time something bad happened, we could tell each other,

:44:50. > :44:54.come on, we will get through this. When there was something a bit more

:44:55. > :44:58.exciting happened, we could laugh together, enjoy this moment together

:44:59. > :45:03.if we had a bit extra food. Definitely, definitely it was the

:45:04. > :45:16.fact that we were held together. That kept me sane, kept all of us

:45:17. > :45:26.sane. And sometimes, I know it sounds laboured, but sometimes I

:45:27. > :45:31.miss... Because there was nothing, at some point there was nothing that

:45:32. > :45:36.disturbed us. There was nobody sitting on an iPhone, talking, we

:45:37. > :45:40.could have a conversation for four or five hours, straight, without

:45:41. > :45:44.anybody interrupting, just about one very boring subject. If we were

:45:45. > :45:54.there, we were speaking very clearly to each other. And being so, I don't

:45:55. > :45:58.know the words, so intense, sometimes, that was a strong

:45:59. > :46:05.feeling. I remember. Something like this. A little bit from back then.

:46:06. > :46:11.Reports suggest that Jihadi John was killed by a drone strike last year.

:46:12. > :46:19.When you heard that news, what did you think? First of all, I was

:46:20. > :46:26.not... I did not react very much to it because, first of all, we heard

:46:27. > :46:37.of terrorists reportedly being dead three or four times, so we cannot

:46:38. > :46:42.check if he is dead. It is in Isis' interests to tell us he is dead, so

:46:43. > :46:45.maybe he is dead or maybe he is not dead, maybe just sitting in one

:46:46. > :46:51.place laughing because we all think he is dead but my point is, I am not

:46:52. > :46:57.happy about anybody's being killed, even him, I don't think it's fair. I

:46:58. > :47:02.don't think it's justice. I know it is a war, but throwing bombs from

:47:03. > :47:10.drones down to people, you can't check if they hit a school, or

:47:11. > :47:15.Jihadi John, and that puts them back to the point, if they caught him,

:47:16. > :47:20.and put him into a fair trial, I would have loved to have come and

:47:21. > :47:30.bear witness. I would loved to have been part of what I believe is a

:47:31. > :47:34.fair system. So the fact of just celebrating a person being blown

:47:35. > :47:43.into pieces, I don't really think that is how I raised and how I

:47:44. > :47:51.believe the world should be. Can I ask you how, if it's possible, how

:47:52. > :47:56.you rationalise the fact that people that became your friends lost their

:47:57. > :48:05.lives after you afraid, people like James Foley? Alan Henning. David

:48:06. > :48:19.Haynes. The first thing you say is why them? And, yeah... That was how

:48:20. > :48:27.it ended. I cannot do anything about that. So I tried to think about how

:48:28. > :48:34.it would have been for myself and I know how it is to see a place where

:48:35. > :48:36.you would rather be dead than alive. Daniel Rye.

:48:37. > :48:38.You can read Daniel's full story in his book,

:48:39. > :48:48.Thank you to those who got in touch about what Daniel Rye has said this

:48:49. > :48:51.morning. Ishmael says, he is amazing. The most amazing interview

:48:52. > :48:57.I never listen to on your programme. I pray for him and wish them well.

:48:58. > :49:01.Ian, I admire Daniel Rye for forgiving his Isis captors. This

:49:02. > :49:06.from Chantelle, I'm so moved by this man's experience whilst being held

:49:07. > :49:10.hostage by Isis. Jan says, watching Daniel Rye on your programme, a

:49:11. > :49:17.sympathetic interview, amazing interviewee. What an amazing story.

:49:18. > :49:22.I'm so glad he was freed to tell the world what was going on. You can

:49:23. > :49:25.watch the full interview again on our programme page.

:49:26. > :49:29.A 37-year-old man is facing jail today after admitting threatening

:49:30. > :49:33.to kill a Labour MP the day before Jo Cox was murdered

:49:34. > :49:42.Geoffrey Farquharson left a message of venom on Exeter MP

:49:43. > :49:48.The two minute call, which included homophobic comments,

:49:49. > :49:51.ended with the words, "I will kill you, you expletive."

:49:52. > :50:03.Good morning. Hello, Victoria. Tell us more about this phone call to

:50:04. > :50:09.your office. It was the culmination of several months of abuse and

:50:10. > :50:16.aggression in the form of e-mails and calls and visits to my

:50:17. > :50:21.constituency office. From this gentleman, who appeared to believe

:50:22. > :50:25.that he was the victim of anti-white racism and I repeatedly asked him

:50:26. > :50:28.for evidence of that and he had complaints against the police and I

:50:29. > :50:31.asked for evidence of that and he never provided any evidence but his

:50:32. > :50:34.behaviour became more and more angry and aggressive and it finally

:50:35. > :50:43.culminated in this death threat the day before Jo was killed. It

:50:44. > :50:46.included homophobic abuse, as well? Yes, homophobic abuse, pretty

:50:47. > :50:50.graphic homophobic abuse but also racist and Islam are phobic abuse

:50:51. > :50:57.not directed at me obviously, but directed more generally at society

:50:58. > :51:03.as he saw it. He did I think introducing self on the call and

:51:04. > :51:06.give his full address as well. Yes, we knew who he was because he'd been

:51:07. > :51:12.in touch with my office and had been, you know, dealing with my

:51:13. > :51:17.staff in my constituency office on a fairly regular basis. Yes, he wasn't

:51:18. > :51:22.somebody who tried to hide his identity or appear from nowhere.

:51:23. > :51:25.Nevertheless, we had to take the call seriously. We were advised as

:51:26. > :51:31.MPs to report death threats like that. I have to say, the police

:51:32. > :51:34.dealt with it extremely quickly and very effectively. I would like to

:51:35. > :51:40.thank Devon and Cornwall police for the way they handled this case. This

:51:41. > :51:43.man Geoffrey Farquharson had a YouTube channel when he published a

:51:44. > :51:45.video of a separate phone call he'd made to your office in April before

:51:46. > :51:47.he was arrested. Here's a clip of comments

:51:48. > :51:50.he made in that video, People phoning the police

:51:51. > :51:54.on you because you're telling They are out to choke

:51:55. > :51:57.stuff out of us. They're allowed to abuse us,

:51:58. > :51:59.physically attack us and we're the ones getting

:52:00. > :52:01.arrested and subjugated. There is something very wrong

:52:02. > :52:04.going on here and I am I can tell you that we're

:52:05. > :52:10.heading towards civil war. I'm trying to stop this but I can

:52:11. > :52:13.tell you it's heading that way. If you love your country like I do

:52:14. > :52:17.then you would be doing something Because if you're just moaning

:52:18. > :52:25.online then you're a coward. You've

:52:26. > :52:27.got to start doing action now. It doesn't mean going to marches

:52:28. > :52:30.and beating people up, you don't have to do that,

:52:31. > :52:33.you can go on marches and do it You can write letters to the MP,

:52:34. > :52:37.you can make appointments to see the MP, and keep

:52:38. > :52:46.going on and on and on and on. I don't think you necessarily had

:52:47. > :52:53.that before. What did you think? No, that was pretty mild in comparison

:52:54. > :52:55.to some of the stuff we received. I don't know anything about his

:52:56. > :53:01.politics. I haven't sat through the court case and maybe more details

:53:02. > :53:05.will come out but I saw a picture of him wearing a vote leave T-shirt at

:53:06. > :53:09.the time he issued a death threat to me. We'll have to wait and see what

:53:10. > :53:15.the judge decide on what comes out when the sentencing happens. I think

:53:16. > :53:20.psychiatric reports have been asked for. Our death threats to MPs

:53:21. > :53:25.actually the new normal, part of your regular working life? Well,

:53:26. > :53:27.I've had them before. I was animal welfare minister mummy took through

:53:28. > :53:33.the hunting ban and that was a pretty rough period. There were

:53:34. > :53:36.statistics out recently which showed a big increase in threats and death

:53:37. > :53:43.threats in particular to members of parliament in the last few years and

:53:44. > :53:47.I certainly I think many of us hoped Joe Oxman was killing would lead to

:53:48. > :54:01.a deeper reflection of the culture we have in a moment -- Jo Cox's. I'm

:54:02. > :54:05.afraid this has become socially acceptable. It's got worse full

:54:06. > :54:08.subeditor on the dreadful abuse Angela Eagle suffered when she

:54:09. > :54:14.challenged Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership, I think, if

:54:15. > :54:19.anything, it's got worse, not better since Jo's death. I hope when that

:54:20. > :54:23.case comes to court, we can have a deeper reflection as a country as to

:54:24. > :54:28.how we build a kinder and more civilised political discourse. Some

:54:29. > :54:32.of the abuse Angela Eagle received that you mentioned where from Labour

:54:33. > :54:35.supporters, who didn't particularly supported her challenging Jeremy

:54:36. > :54:42.Corbyn. I don't know whether they were Labour supporters. Most MPs

:54:43. > :54:47.have had this kind of abuse in their time. There seems to be a particular

:54:48. > :54:51.problem with misogyny. My female colleagues get much worse than male

:54:52. > :54:57.colleagues do. Whether social media has given the misogynists are

:54:58. > :55:02.licensed to sound off. But we have it from extremes of left and right,

:55:03. > :55:07.but, yes, you are right, what Angela had to put up with is absolutely

:55:08. > :55:13.unacceptable and dreadful and, you know, I do hope that we can learn,

:55:14. > :55:17.as a society, from some of these incidents and tried to do better in

:55:18. > :55:22.future. Jeremy Corbyn himself, since he became leader, there has been

:55:23. > :55:29.plenty of absolutely vicious abuse directed at him, too. Yes. That

:55:30. > :55:35.should be condemned as well. But I think, in the end, condemnation is

:55:36. > :55:40.not enough. Political parties, whichever party, has to have proper

:55:41. > :55:44.procedures in place and a complete no tolerance approach to this sort

:55:45. > :55:48.of abuse fall for this not just condemned and criticised, but the

:55:49. > :55:53.people responsible for it dealt with quickly and efficiently and I'm not

:55:54. > :55:56.sure that has always happened in the last few months. In my own party,

:55:57. > :56:01.I'm sure other parties suffer similar problems. Are you saying

:56:02. > :56:08.there's not really those systems in your party to deal with those

:56:09. > :56:15.hurling at this abuse? I think it's got better and the general Secretary

:56:16. > :56:18.General medical and his hard-pressed staff in our central office in

:56:19. > :56:23.London have worked their socks off to deal with some of this and to

:56:24. > :56:27.filter out some of the people responsible for it. It's a

:56:28. > :56:30.responsibility to report it and I'm confident in the Labour Party and

:56:31. > :56:37.its staff. Political leadership however requires not just absolutely

:56:38. > :56:41.strong and unequivocal condemnation, but action against all forms of

:56:42. > :56:47.abuse and threats and intimidation. I do worry that we have a culture

:56:48. > :56:50.building up in the context of this leadership campaign, where those

:56:51. > :56:54.sorts of civilised norms are not always being respected on both sides

:56:55. > :57:01.and I think that's something we should take very seriously. Thank

:57:02. > :57:06.you for your time this morning. The 37-year-old, who left about

:57:07. > :57:07.threatening message will be sentenced today. We will hear the

:57:08. > :57:15.outcome on BBC News. Just before the end of the programme

:57:16. > :57:18.time to bring you this. Professor Brian Cox has had a public

:57:19. > :57:21.row with a newly elected Australian politician who believes climate

:57:22. > :57:23.change is a global conspiracy. The British physicist was appearing

:57:24. > :57:26.on an Australian TV show called Q and A alongside senator-elect

:57:27. > :57:38.Malcolm Roberts from the The absolute, absolute consensus is

:57:39. > :57:40.that human action is leading to an increase in average temperatures for

:57:41. > :57:47.the view may try to argue with that, but you can't. I'm absolutely

:57:48. > :57:50.stunned that someone who is inspired by Richard Feynman, a fantastic

:57:51. > :57:59.scientist who believes in empirical evidence, is quoting consensus. I

:58:00. > :58:07.have brought the graft. First of all, the data has been corrupted and

:58:08. > :58:10.we know... Corrupted? By whom? Manipulated by Nasa. As far as I'm

:58:11. > :58:14.concerned for politics should be based on empirical evidence and

:58:15. > :58:17.policy should be based on it, I've heard consensus which is not

:58:18. > :58:27.science, appeals to authority which is not science, I have heard

:58:28. > :58:30.various... Hang on. The evidence. Always bring a graph.

:58:31. > :58:32.Tomorrow we're live from Nottingham from 9 o'clock in the morning

:58:33. > :58:34.for a Labour leadership special featuring a live audience

:58:35. > :58:38.and the two men who want to be leader of the Labour Party,

:58:39. > :58:43.Wherever you are in the UK do join us from 9 tomorrow.