31/08/2016

:01:23. > :01:27.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:28. > :01:32.we are also talking about the very young age at which some children are

:01:33. > :01:35.starting to worry about their bodies. We would love to hear from

:01:36. > :01:39.you with your thoughts on this if you have children at nursery or

:01:40. > :01:40.primary school. How do we make sure our children grow up happy with the

:01:41. > :01:43.way they look. Do get in touch on all the stories

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:01:49. > :01:52.at the standard network rate. We will have more on our exclusive

:01:53. > :01:54.report on the anti-malaria drug Lariam and just a moment. But first,

:01:55. > :01:59.our top story. from the European Union will be top

:02:00. > :02:03.of the agenda for Prime She's chairing a Cabinet meeting

:02:04. > :02:07.at her official country residence Our political correspondent

:02:08. > :02:10.Tom Bateman reports. It is over two months since Britain

:02:11. > :02:13.voted to leave the European Union. The British people have spoken and

:02:14. > :02:16.the answer is "we are out." Since then the Prime Minister

:02:17. > :02:22.Theresa May has said that she intends to make a success

:02:23. > :02:26.of Brexit but behind the sound bites lies the hugely complex negotiations

:02:27. > :02:28.that Britain must undertake with 27 remaining members of the EU,

:02:29. > :02:31.not to mention the timetable for triggering Britain's exit

:02:32. > :02:34.and the calls from some opposing MPs for another vote

:02:35. > :02:36.by the public on any deal - Mrs May will today chair her first

:02:37. > :02:43.meeting of the Cabinet She gave them some homework -

:02:44. > :02:57.to identify what she called Brexit could bring each

:02:58. > :03:00.of their departments. That tactic may help defuse some

:03:01. > :03:02.of the political intensity focussed on the ministers

:03:03. > :03:04.closest to the process, Today's meeting at Chequers takes

:03:05. > :03:07.place amid lush surroundings but must confront hard realities,

:03:08. > :03:10.bringing together ministers who are deeply divided

:03:11. > :03:11.over the referendum. Now they have to start work

:03:12. > :03:13.towards a collective decision The most challenging

:03:14. > :03:20.of all is likely to be over how far Britain has access to the European

:03:21. > :03:24.single market while honouring the promise made during

:03:25. > :03:27.the referendum to control migration. Our Political Correspondent Chris

:03:28. > :03:44.Mason is at Westminster. I they likely to come up with a

:03:45. > :03:47.consensus? The short answer is not. There is a huge range of

:03:48. > :03:50.perspectives around the table, there was before the referendum and there

:03:51. > :03:55.certainly is now, albeit a different looking cabinet table, not so much

:03:56. > :03:59.about whether or not the UK will leave the European Union, because

:04:00. > :04:02.the vast majority of politicians are Democrats and respect the fact that

:04:03. > :04:06.that is the way the country voted regardless of their view before the

:04:07. > :04:11.referendum. It is more about what Brexit looks like, so the Prime

:04:12. > :04:16.Minister said Brexit means Brexit, but what does it actually mean? It

:04:17. > :04:22.boils down to two things, trade and immigration. What willingness is

:04:23. > :04:26.there to do something about the free movement of people around the

:04:27. > :04:32.European Union wants the UK leads? What changes there? But if there are

:04:33. > :04:39.changes in that direction, and many will acknowledge that is a huge

:04:40. > :04:42.motivating factor in many people in voting to leave was to see some

:04:43. > :04:47.thing done about immigration, what then happens to the UK's trading

:04:48. > :04:52.relationship outside the European Union with the 27 members of the

:04:53. > :04:57.club? They are in essence the two big elements of this whole

:04:58. > :05:00.negotiation. But to give you some sense of how long this is going to

:05:01. > :05:05.take, we don't know for certain yet when the door will open for us to

:05:06. > :05:09.start walking out, when the triggering of Article 50, to use the

:05:10. > :05:14.terminology, will actually happen. Once that does happen, it sets in

:05:15. > :05:19.train a process that will last it is estimated two years, some think it

:05:20. > :05:22.might take even longer. A topic that will dominate the Cabinet discussion

:05:23. > :05:27.at Chequers this morning and Dominic politics for years to come. Thank

:05:28. > :05:29.you very much. Now let's catch up with the rest of the news with Ben

:05:30. > :05:32.in the BBC newsroom. The former head of the Army has told

:05:33. > :05:41.this programme that his fears over potentially catastrophic side

:05:42. > :05:44.effects of an anti-malaria drug led him to refuse it -

:05:45. > :05:46.while he knew it was being Lord Dannatt said his own son had

:05:47. > :05:49.become extremely depressed after taking the drug Lariam,

:05:50. > :05:51.also known as Mefloquine, before visiting Africa

:05:52. > :05:54.as a civilian in the late 1990s. The Ministry of Defence said it

:05:55. > :05:56.had a duty to protect personnel from malaria,

:05:57. > :05:58.and in some cases Lariam was the most effective

:05:59. > :06:06.way of doing that. My middle son, who was prescribed

:06:07. > :06:09.Lariam, he was in Africa shortly after taking a couple of doses,

:06:10. > :06:12.he became very unwell very quickly fortunately, that point,

:06:13. > :06:27.stopped taking Lariam. He recovered from the physical

:06:28. > :06:29.effects of Lariam. Because I had first-hand experience

:06:30. > :06:32.of what could happen, I couldn't see the point of putting

:06:33. > :06:35.myself in the same position. And you can see our exclusive

:06:36. > :06:41.interview with Lord Dannatt in full A senior commander of

:06:42. > :06:47.the Islamist terror group -- so-called Islamic

:06:48. > :06:55.State has been killed. Media linked to IS says Abu Muhammad

:06:56. > :06:57.al-Adnani died in Syria. It hasn't given any details of how

:06:58. > :07:01.he died but the US military has confirmed it targeted him

:07:02. > :07:03.during an air strike on Tuesday. Officials are still

:07:04. > :07:11.assessing the results. A teenage boy remains in custody,

:07:12. > :07:14.after a 40-year-old Polish man was killed in Harlow in Essex

:07:15. > :07:16.at the weekend. The man was attacked on Saturday,

:07:17. > :07:18.and died on Monday. Our correspondent Frankie McCamley

:07:19. > :07:28.is in Harlow for us now. As you can see, flowers have been

:07:29. > :07:33.arriving throughout the morning. People paying respects, this is the

:07:34. > :07:46.area where the 40-year-old man, who has now been named locally has been

:07:47. > :07:52.killed on Saturday night. A 43-year-old Polish man was also

:07:53. > :07:57.injured. We found out this morning that the sixth teenager arrested by

:07:58. > :08:05.police has now been bailed pending further enquiries. Local people say

:08:06. > :08:13.this place is an area where a lot of teenagers will congregate, and

:08:14. > :08:16.police have said that they have now put out a dispersal order, which

:08:17. > :08:23.means that they can come to this area and break up any teenagers that

:08:24. > :08:27.might be intimidating shoppers. We also know that later tonight, people

:08:28. > :08:33.from this local community say that they are going to be coming together

:08:34. > :08:39.and holding a vigil here too, in their words, stand up to racism,

:08:40. > :08:39.because they say any hatred in this community should be challenged.

:08:40. > :08:44.Frankie McCamley reporting there. Pregnant women and new mums need

:08:45. > :08:47.more protection at work - that's according to a group of MPs

:08:48. > :08:50.who say there has been a "shocking" The Women and Equalities Committee

:08:51. > :08:55.is calling for the Government to act following a report

:08:56. > :08:57.earlier this year suggesting that the number forced

:08:58. > :09:00.to leave their jobs after giving birth has almost doubled

:09:01. > :09:07.to 54,000 since 2005. Many of the 6,500 people rescued

:09:08. > :09:09.in the Mediterranean yesterday have started arriving at

:09:10. > :09:11.ports in Sicily. The increase in the number of people

:09:12. > :09:19.trying to cross from North Africa to Europe is being partly attributed

:09:20. > :09:22.to calmer weather in the region. So far this year more

:09:23. > :09:24.than 100,000 people Thousands have died

:09:25. > :09:27.making the crossing. Humanitarian groups say the large

:09:28. > :09:29.number of arrivals It's not unusual that this large

:09:30. > :09:35.number of people are arriving In other months, other weeks,

:09:36. > :09:49.we saw arriving a large number The US Republican Presidential

:09:50. > :10:00.Candidate Donald Trump has accepted an invitation to visit Mexico

:10:01. > :10:03.and meet its president after months of campaigning

:10:04. > :10:12.on illegal immigration. That war will go up so fast, your

:10:13. > :10:18.head will spin, and you will say, you know, he meant it! And you know

:10:19. > :10:25.what else I mean? Mexico is going to pay for the war. -- wall.

:10:26. > :10:28.Mr Trump tweeted that he was looking forward to the visit,

:10:29. > :10:31.President Enrique Pena Nieto said dialogue would help "protect

:10:32. > :10:36.He's also invited the Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton.

:10:37. > :10:39.Police in Los Angeles have arrested the American singer, Chris Brown,

:10:40. > :10:45.on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.

:10:46. > :10:48.It follows a stand-off after a woman made an emergency call from his

:10:49. > :10:50.home. Our correspondent

:10:51. > :10:52.David Willis has more. Police were called to Chris Brown's

:10:53. > :10:54.sprawling mansion after receiving the woman's call for help

:10:55. > :10:57.at around three o'clock in the They were allegedly denied entry

:10:58. > :11:04.and had to wait for a charge to approve a search warrant before

:11:05. > :11:07.entering the property There is currently

:11:08. > :11:10.an investigation going on. If you can see, we are in

:11:11. > :11:13.the process of transition in that investigation to robbery

:11:14. > :11:14.and homicide division. Robbery and homicide

:11:15. > :11:16.division will now take The woman who called the police

:11:17. > :11:21.later told local media that the dispute centred over a row

:11:22. > :11:23.over some jewellery. Chris Brown spent some time posting

:11:24. > :11:29.videos online, protesting his innocence and accusing

:11:30. > :11:32.the police of harassment. But it wasn't until his

:11:33. > :11:34.lawyer arrived that he He is expected to be

:11:35. > :11:40.charged with assault. Chris Brown has had a number

:11:41. > :11:46.of run-ins with the law in recent years, beginning with his conviction

:11:47. > :11:50.for assaulting his then girlfriend, the singer Rhianna,

:11:51. > :11:52.in February 2009. David Willis, BBC News,

:11:53. > :12:03.Los Angeles. And some news just coming in.

:12:04. > :12:07.Northumbria Police say a 17-year-old boy has died after getting into

:12:08. > :12:09.difficulties in a Denny at the mouth of the River Wear in Sunderland.

:12:10. > :12:12.More on that when we have it. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:12:13. > :12:14.News, more at 9:30am. It's transfer deadline day so no

:12:15. > :12:18.doubt a hectic day ahead for Will Perry at

:12:19. > :12:21.the BBC Sport Centre. Will, it's been a busy summer

:12:22. > :12:31.already with clubs breaking It has. This is the calm before the

:12:32. > :12:37.storm in here. Everyone is typing quietly and all that, but you wait,

:12:38. > :12:41.14 or 15 hours, it goes bananas in here, everyone will be on the phone,

:12:42. > :12:46.on the computers, it goes manic, believe me. It is interesting, one

:12:47. > :12:51.question is why is the business always left so late? Why is it left

:12:52. > :12:54.to the deadline? The big clubs get their business out of the way, look

:12:55. > :13:00.at the deals for example for Paul Pogba, that was a record deal, ?89

:13:01. > :13:03.million, Manchester United getting this one done nice and early with

:13:04. > :13:09.all the other deals they did as well with Ibrahimovic, and of course

:13:10. > :13:14.their neighbours, Manchester City, a big deal for John Stones, ?47.5

:13:15. > :13:19.million, he was at Barnsley only five or six years ago, via Everton

:13:20. > :13:23.and then to Manchester City. So the big clubs getting those deals done,

:13:24. > :13:27.but that doesn't say that they might not get back in later on, then you

:13:28. > :13:32.have clubs who perhaps have a budget of 50, 60, 70 million pounds for the

:13:33. > :13:35.window, they will wait for the prices to drop right down, they will

:13:36. > :13:40.be talking to agents and chairman of the clubs to the last minute. 12

:13:41. > :13:45.Premier League clubs have broken their records for transfer deals

:13:46. > :13:51.already out of 20 clubs in the Premier League. And then you look at

:13:52. > :13:56.the figures we are talking about. We are already over the billion pounds

:13:57. > :14:03.mark, the previous record was ?870 million, last year, already over ?1

:14:04. > :14:08.billion today. That is an incredible deal. What kind of deals can we

:14:09. > :14:12.expect to be done today? There are always deals done very late on, and

:14:13. > :14:16.some of them we don't even find out until tomorrow morning, but lots of

:14:17. > :14:21.outgoings, particularly Manchester City, because Joe Hart is an

:14:22. > :14:28.interesting one, he hasn't yet left the Etihad. He is set to sign for

:14:29. > :14:31.Torino on a season-long loan deal, Manchester City will be off-loaded

:14:32. > :14:40.quite a few, Samir Nasri as well to similar, Elliot Kear Mangala, talk

:14:41. > :14:45.about him going back to Porto, and Wilfried Bony, all outgoing. And

:14:46. > :14:51.Jack Wilshire is another interesting one to keep an eye on. He has been

:14:52. > :14:55.talked about being the next Paul Gascoigne, but it hasn't happened

:14:56. > :15:01.for him at Arsenal. He had a brilliant loan spell at Bolton, but

:15:02. > :15:03.he is set to leave, looks like it is between Crystal Palace and

:15:04. > :15:06.Bournemouth, but AC Milan has been touted as well, and then Crystal

:15:07. > :15:13.Palace will try to keep hold of Wilfried Zaha. But Jack Wilshire is

:15:14. > :15:18.set to leave Arsenal. Another interesting one, we could stand here

:15:19. > :15:24.for an hour and talk about it, but David Luiz at Chelsea. This is a

:15:25. > :15:31.defender Chelsea sold, very is at the PSG training kit. ?32 million,

:15:32. > :15:35.they are talking about buying him back, they sold him for 50 million,

:15:36. > :15:40.and at the time, Chelsea were quite happy to get that money, because he

:15:41. > :15:42.hadn't really settled, was he a centre back or a midfielder? No one

:15:43. > :15:47.could work out what his best role was. It really would be a sort of

:15:48. > :15:53.two fingers up to Jose Mourinho, because Jose Mourinho got rid of

:15:54. > :15:56.him, and they have got rid of Jose Mourinho since, and now signing back

:15:57. > :16:02.a player they were glad to see the back of, so plenty happening. West

:16:03. > :16:05.Brom, Tony Pulis has been saying they need five new players for about

:16:06. > :16:10.five months, so they need three or four. West Ham, you can keep

:16:11. > :16:14.up-to-date with all of that. We have a four-hour deadline day special at

:16:15. > :16:16.seven o'clock this evening, and Dan Walker will be here on BBC One at

:16:17. > :16:18.10:45pm. Turning attentions to tennis

:16:19. > :16:21.and tell us about the British contingent at the US Open and how

:16:22. > :16:27.they're getting on? Pretty good, I'd say. Out of eight

:16:28. > :16:31.Brits, five through to the second round at Flushing Meadows. Andy

:16:32. > :16:36.Murray made it through last night, beating Lukas Rosol of the Czech

:16:37. > :16:41.Republic in the night session. He will play Marcel Granollers in the

:16:42. > :16:44.second round. They were now on day two with Kyle Edmund and Joanna

:16:45. > :16:48.Konta already into the second round. Heather Watson out.

:16:49. > :17:03.What happens when you are working and expecting a baby or you have

:17:04. > :17:06.recently had one? Get in touch. A report saying there is modest

:17:07. > :17:09.combination than ever against new mums.

:17:10. > :17:12.Use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:17:13. > :17:16.In an exclusive interview with this programme,

:17:17. > :17:19.the former head of the British army tells us he refused to take

:17:20. > :17:23.an anti-malaria drug that he knew was being given

:17:24. > :17:27.to his troops because of his concerns about what he calls "pretty

:17:28. > :17:31.General Sir Richard Dannatt, is speaking for the very first time

:17:32. > :17:34.about his own son's mental health issues after an army doctor

:17:35. > :17:40.He says his son, Bertie, a former soldier, became "extremely

:17:41. > :17:43.depressed" when he took it in the late 1990s.

:17:44. > :17:46.That was before he went into the army.

:17:47. > :17:48.General Dannatt is urging the Ministry of Defence to show

:17:49. > :17:50."generosity" towards service men and women seeking compensation

:17:51. > :18:08.Whenever I've needed antimalarial drugs, I said I'll take anything,

:18:09. > :18:11.I'll take anything, but I'm not Lariam.

:18:12. > :18:15.You wouldn't take Lariam at the same time as members who were serving

:18:16. > :18:17.under you as chief of the general staff were taking Lariam?

:18:18. > :18:32.I mean, if your life has been blown apart,

:18:33. > :18:35.I'm afraid the only thing that I can get from the Ministry

:18:36. > :18:41.In an extraordinary revelation, the former head of the British Army

:18:42. > :18:45.tells us he refused to take a drug that was being given to his troops,

:18:46. > :18:54.General Sir Richard Dannatt tells us his own son Bertie suffered

:18:55. > :18:59.mental health issues, after an Army doctor gave him Lariam.

:19:00. > :19:02.After that, General Dannatt made up his own mind

:19:03. > :19:08.that the antimalarial wasn't safe to take,

:19:09. > :19:11.but he admits he put the issue on the back burner when

:19:12. > :19:14.he was in the top job, allowing his own troops to carry

:19:15. > :19:30.My middle son, who was prescribed Lariam, he was in Africa shortly

:19:31. > :19:32.after taking his first couple of doses and became very

:19:33. > :19:38.He was flown back to the UK and fortunately at that point

:19:39. > :19:43.He recovered from the physical effects of Lariam, but over a period

:19:44. > :19:49.of time there clearly were mental health issues.

:19:50. > :19:52.Tell us a bit more, if you will, about the impact that it

:19:53. > :20:04.He was normally very bubbly and a personable individual.

:20:05. > :20:09.He got very withdrawn and we got very worried about him,

:20:10. > :20:12.and I think if that had been unrecognised and untreated, frankly,

:20:13. > :20:20.There are other cases whereby the symptoms that people exhibit

:20:21. > :20:23.as a result of taking Lariam, or probably having taken Lariam can

:20:24. > :20:37.Because Bertie had that effect, whenever I needed antimalarial

:20:38. > :20:42.drugs, I said, I'll take anything, I'm not taking Lariam.

:20:43. > :20:47.I took something else on one occasion and made myself very ill,

:20:48. > :20:49.but I realised very quickly and I didn't

:20:50. > :20:58.You knew you wouldn't take Lariam at the same time as members

:20:59. > :21:01.who were serving under you, as chief of the general staff,

:21:02. > :21:08.That is true, but again, I think it was because the organisation

:21:09. > :21:09.hadn't reached a settled view on whether Lariam

:21:10. > :21:17.But it wasn't good enough for you, should it have been good enough

:21:18. > :21:24.Because I had first-hand experience of what could happen,

:21:25. > :21:27.I couldn't see the point of putting myself in the same position,

:21:28. > :21:35.But other people were being put in that position.

:21:36. > :21:40.Well, this is true, but again, I come back to the fact

:21:41. > :21:43.that the Ministry of Defence, as an organisation, is still trying

:21:44. > :21:46.to come to the conclusion in general terms whether the beneficial

:21:47. > :21:50.or harmful effects of Lariam were greater or less.

:21:51. > :21:52.But you personally had reached your own view it wasn't

:21:53. > :21:57.Because I had some personal experience, I thought

:21:58. > :22:06.Concerns were raised, many years ago, about Lariam.

:22:07. > :22:09.Was there negligence in the way it was prescribed?

:22:10. > :22:12.Well, I've often thought about this because after all,

:22:13. > :22:19.I was head of the Army in 2006 until 2009.

:22:20. > :22:21.During this ten-to-15 year period when we were increasingly getting

:22:22. > :22:28.Well, I suppose in that sort of period from 2003 right

:22:29. > :22:33.through to 2014 when we are focused in Iraq and Afghanistan,

:22:34. > :22:35.which were not malarial areas and we weren't giving large numbers

:22:36. > :22:38.of people Lariam, I think it probably slightly slipped

:22:39. > :22:45.Tens of thousands of British soldiers have been given

:22:46. > :22:49.It is one of a number of antimalarial drugs used

:22:50. > :22:54.For years, soldiers who were given it knew it was causing side-effects.

:22:55. > :23:11.A look, a phrase, a word, something completely innocent

:23:12. > :23:14.in somebody else's eyes, but it would be enough

:23:15. > :23:23.But it was a reaction you knew you were doing, but you

:23:24. > :23:32.It was as if the wiring in your brain had completely gone,

:23:33. > :23:41.You knew it was going on, but you could not stop it.

:23:42. > :23:44.I do get depressed to the point of suicidal thoughts.

:23:45. > :23:49.That has crossed my mind, on a number of occasions.

:23:50. > :24:01.I have a little girl now and she needs a daddy.

:24:02. > :24:12.when prescribing medicines, has made absolutely clear what anyone

:24:13. > :24:17.being given Lariam should be told about it.

:24:18. > :24:22.It lists a series of neuro psychiatric side-effects and says

:24:23. > :24:24.that the drug must be stopped immediately if any of

:24:25. > :24:29.We have spoken to many members of the military who said

:24:30. > :24:33.they were simply not made aware of that.

:24:34. > :24:37.We were told to report to the medical centre.

:24:38. > :24:41.We signed a form, saying that we were taking Lariam.

:24:42. > :24:45.We were given the doses, because we had to take doses before

:24:46. > :24:52.we deployed, during deployment and then afterwards.

:24:53. > :24:55.That was basically what we were given.

:24:56. > :25:01.We weren't given any form of medical assessment.

:25:02. > :25:09.We were just told, this is what you're taking, away you go.

:25:10. > :25:11.Were you told there might be side effects?

:25:12. > :25:17.In a statement issued last year, the MoD said since 2013 mefloquine,

:25:18. > :25:20.or Lariam, has only been prescribed after an individual risk assessment.

:25:21. > :25:23.Lawyers take this as confirmation that prior to 2013 there was no

:25:24. > :25:31.systematic requirement for individual assessments.

:25:32. > :25:35.Philippa Tuchman is a lawyer who is now representing nearly 800

:25:36. > :25:44.service personnel who want redress from the MoD.

:25:45. > :25:46.By and large, the requirements to guard people

:25:47. > :25:50.against harm when Lariam was given were not observed.

:25:51. > :25:55.I think potentially thousands of people have been harmed by it

:25:56. > :26:00.in one way or another in some, short-term, in others long term.

:26:01. > :26:03.I think that the use of Lariam and the failure to take the basic

:26:04. > :26:05.absolutely compulsory precautions on the part of the MoD does,

:26:06. > :26:12.I'm afraid, illustrate something I have seen in a lot of other cases,

:26:13. > :26:18.which is a failure to see the individual service man or woman

:26:19. > :26:21.as a person who is entitled to absolutely as great a duty

:26:22. > :26:46.of care as the rest of us would expect in our civilian lives.

:26:47. > :26:49.The problem the MoD has is that if it had admits something

:26:50. > :26:51.like the negative effects of prescribing a drug like Lariam,

:26:52. > :26:54.it kind of opens the floodgates to a lot of very expensive

:26:55. > :27:00.legislation and frankly, it doesn't have much money.

:27:01. > :27:02.These are people, though, who have served their country,

:27:03. > :27:05.who were prepared to lay down their lives for their country.

:27:06. > :27:08.Which is why I think the right response of the MoD would be to take

:27:09. > :27:11.a generous approach as far as Lariam is concerned and invite those

:27:12. > :27:14.who think they have lost a loved one, or indeed an individual

:27:15. > :27:17.who believes he or she is still suffering as a result of Lariam,

:27:18. > :27:24.to put the case forward and have the case examined.

:27:25. > :27:27.And I think if the MoD wants to show, belatedly in this instance,

:27:28. > :27:30.it's a caring and good employer, it should err on the side

:27:31. > :27:32.of generosity and close a settlement with those people.

:27:33. > :27:35.Had I known what the side-effects were, I'd have taken my

:27:36. > :27:48.Why are the side-effects worse than getting malaria?

:27:49. > :27:52.Because malaria is obviously an horrendous illness to get.

:27:53. > :27:55.and this is what Lariam does, it messes with your head.

:27:56. > :28:07.It's turned me into a horrible person, and a person that

:28:08. > :28:17.I can be a nasty, violent person and I can

:28:18. > :28:26.only attribute it to having taken this drug.

:28:27. > :28:29.A group of senior MPs have backed what the lawyers and

:28:30. > :28:33.They have recommended a near-total ban on the

:28:34. > :28:38.In a report on the issue published earlier in

:28:39. > :28:40.the summer, they said the MoD has displayed a lamentable

:28:41. > :28:47.weakness in its duty of care by handing out Lariam two soldiers

:28:48. > :28:49.without proper screening and that there are significant risks attached

:28:50. > :28:56.to the use of Lariam for military personnel.

:28:57. > :28:58.What do they want, the people coming to you?

:28:59. > :29:03.I mean, if your life has been blown apart, I'm afraid the

:29:04. > :29:05.only thing that I can get from the Ministry

:29:06. > :29:11.of Defence is compensation, and they do deserve compensation.

:29:12. > :29:19.What I would urge the Ministry of Defence

:29:20. > :29:23.to do is to take a really good, hard realistic look at whether it really

:29:24. > :29:27.can put its hand on its heart and say,

:29:28. > :29:29.yes, on most occasions we did give the warnings

:29:30. > :29:35.We did give the advice and we

:29:36. > :29:41.If they can show that, then please, show us

:29:42. > :29:46.the documents that show that they did that.

:29:47. > :29:50.If they didn't, in any individual case, it would really

:29:51. > :29:59.help and it would be greatly appreciated if they would not put my

:30:00. > :30:02.client through the agony of long, drawn-out court cases and they will

:30:03. > :30:10.Now can we please talk about how we can put this right.

:30:11. > :30:13.It's been described as the worst form of friendly fire.

:30:14. > :30:16.Yes, I think the worst form of friendly fire is a

:30:17. > :30:22.After all, you have been given a drug by the

:30:23. > :30:25.organisation in which you work and in which you place your trust,

:30:26. > :30:31.supposedly for your health, but ultimately for your lack of health.

:30:32. > :30:37.When a soldier, in all good faith, is prescribed Lariam by his medical

:30:38. > :30:40.officer because he is going to a malarial area, if you've been told

:30:41. > :30:45.you've got to take drugs, you take drugs.

:30:46. > :30:48.It's something you're order to do and of course you will do.

:30:49. > :30:51.And if people aren't aware that in a significant minority of cases

:30:52. > :30:52.it can have adverse mental effects, then

:30:53. > :31:01.The members of the military who I've spoken to who have come forward and

:31:02. > :31:11.who are in some cases pursuing legal action,

:31:12. > :31:13.they wanted their voices to be heard, for somebody to say sorry.

:31:14. > :31:16.Do you feel that you owe anybody an apology?

:31:17. > :31:24.I think, I mean, as someone who has been head of the army at a time

:31:25. > :31:27.when we were prescribing a drug that we now know has probably caused

:31:28. > :31:30.adverse circumstances for people, I'm quite content to say sorry

:31:31. > :31:32.to anybody during the period of time that I have responsibility

:31:33. > :32:04.Why do the British Government continue to give this drug

:32:05. > :32:10.They saw fit to send us to war zones.

:32:11. > :32:13.We went, willing to lay down our lives if needs be.

:32:14. > :32:15.It is incumbent on them to look after us now.

:32:16. > :32:18.And if you want to share or watch that film again please

:32:19. > :32:20.head to our programme page, BBC.co.uk/Victoria.

:32:21. > :32:22.Coming up in the next hour, we hear from families

:32:23. > :32:24.affected by Lariam, including a wife who says

:32:25. > :32:28.this drug played a part in her husband's death.

:32:29. > :32:32.As well as Dr Lillywhite, who was for a time the most senior

:32:33. > :32:37.medical officer in the Army responsible for prescribing Lariam.

:32:38. > :32:45.Alice on Facebook says my father was given Lariam while serving in 2000.

:32:46. > :32:51.He suffered the same effects as this man's son, but the army didn't want

:32:52. > :32:56.to see the effects until he killed himself in 2006, so how can this man

:32:57. > :33:00.simply say sorry when the drug has ripped apart people's lives. Paula

:33:01. > :33:07.says my ex-husband took Lowry whilst serving in the Army. He realised it

:33:08. > :33:12.was affecting him, and changed to a different drug. Service personnel

:33:13. > :33:17.are given various drugs, and these on top of tours of duty affected him

:33:18. > :33:20.and had a terminal effect on our marriage. I remember sitting with

:33:21. > :33:25.his welfare officer after our separation. He was home on two

:33:26. > :33:28.weeks' leave from Afghanistan and had discussed with me how he had a

:33:29. > :33:34.choice of guns with which to kill himself. He is still not well. Roy

:33:35. > :33:40.has texted, the second tablet I took before deploying to Sera Leone in

:33:41. > :33:43.2007 caused a seizure or fit. When I collected my 12 months supply of an

:33:44. > :33:47.alternative, the doctor commented on how much it cost. My adverse

:33:48. > :33:52.reaction was not reported or detailed in my medical record. I was

:33:53. > :33:56.lucky. Thank you for those comments, do keep on getting in touch, and we

:33:57. > :33:58.will be talking more on that after ten.

:33:59. > :34:01.Still to come: A new survey suggests children as young as three years

:34:02. > :34:04.If you have children under the age of ten,

:34:05. > :34:06.are you worried about how they see themselves?

:34:07. > :34:12.Do get in touch, #VictoriaLive or text us on 61124,

:34:13. > :34:14.we'll be discussing this at about 10:40am and we'd love

:34:15. > :34:21.They defended their Olympic title in the coxless pairs and then

:34:22. > :34:24.what better way to celebrate than with a hen do in Rio?

:34:25. > :34:27.We talk wedding preparations and returning to the Army with gold

:34:28. > :34:28.medallists Helen Glover and Heather Stanning

:34:29. > :34:39.Now, Ben has all the news. Good morning.

:34:40. > :34:43.Thanks, Joanna. The former head of the Army has told

:34:44. > :34:47.this programme that his fears over potentially catastrophic side

:34:48. > :34:50.effects of an anti-malaria drug led him to refuse it even

:34:51. > :34:53.while he knew it was being Lord Dannatt said his own son had

:34:54. > :34:58.become "extremely depressed" after taking the drug Lariam,

:34:59. > :35:01.also known as Mefloquine, before visiting Africa

:35:02. > :35:03.as a civilian in the late 1990s. The Ministry of Defence said it

:35:04. > :35:06.had a duty to protect personnel from malaria,

:35:07. > :35:08.and in some cases Lariam was the most effective

:35:09. > :35:13.way of doing that. The Cabinet will hold its first

:35:14. > :35:16.meeting after the summer break today, as Theresa May looks

:35:17. > :35:18.to discuss the next steps in Britain's plan to leave

:35:19. > :35:20.the European Union. The meeting will be held

:35:21. > :35:23.at Chequers, the Prime Minister's Senior ministers have been asked

:35:24. > :35:27.to consider the opportunities A 17-year-old boy has died

:35:28. > :35:36.after getting into difficulties in a dinghy at the mouth

:35:37. > :35:39.of the River Wear in Sunderland. A major search and rescue operation

:35:40. > :35:42.was launched last night when he and three other teenagers

:35:43. > :35:45.ran into problems on the water. Two girls and another boy

:35:46. > :35:50.were quickly rescued. The 17-year-old was airlifted

:35:51. > :35:52.to hospital in Newcastle, A senior commander of so-called

:35:53. > :36:09.Islamic State has been killed. Media linked to IS says Abu Muhammad

:36:10. > :36:12.al-Adnani died in Syria according It hasn't given any details of how

:36:13. > :36:16.he died however the US military confirmed it targeted him

:36:17. > :36:18.during an air strike on Tuesday. Officials are still

:36:19. > :36:21.assessing the results. A teenage boy remains in custody,

:36:22. > :36:24.after a 40-year-old Polish man was killed in Harlow in Essex

:36:25. > :36:26.at the weekend. The man, named locally

:36:27. > :36:28.as Arkadiusz Jozwik, was attacked on Saturday,

:36:29. > :36:33.and died on Monday. In total, five 15-year-old boys

:36:34. > :36:37.and one 16-year-old boy were A vigil is being held

:36:38. > :36:48.in Harlow, today. That's a summary of the latest

:36:49. > :36:55.BBC News, more at 10am. Here's some sport now

:36:56. > :37:05.with Will Perry, who has some very I am joined by two Legends of

:37:06. > :37:08.Olympic sport, their achievement is incredible, Helen Glover and Heather

:37:09. > :37:13.Stanning, Bolder the coxless pair in Rio. A gold medal from London, a

:37:14. > :37:18.gold medal from Rio. You just told me it is the first time you have put

:37:19. > :37:32.the alarm on today. It is strange! We have been enjoying the luxuries

:37:33. > :37:37.Lyons. Of lying in. You are back to earth with a bumper little bit, but

:37:38. > :37:43.to be back to earth and have the we have had, and to be able to relive,

:37:44. > :37:49.it has only been a week since we landed, that it feels like it has

:37:50. > :37:52.been a month, because everyone is so interested and we are touched by the

:37:53. > :37:56.encouragement. Let's go back to the race, what was it like when you were

:37:57. > :37:59.about to cross the line? You must have known that this was in the bag,

:38:00. > :38:03.New Zealand approaching to your right, but you knew you had done it.

:38:04. > :38:10.What was going through your body, your mind? Heather was saying, stay

:38:11. > :38:14.in the moment, stay in the moment. We had got a big enough lead by

:38:15. > :38:18.halfway, we still had that lead, and it was just stay in the moment, we

:38:19. > :38:24.know we have got this, let everyone else fight around us. Head in the

:38:25. > :38:32.moment. Don't make a stupid mistake in front of the world and falling in

:38:33. > :38:36.the last part of the race! And John Inverdale and Sir Steve Redgrave,

:38:37. > :38:40.they were trying to get you straightaway to make a decision on

:38:41. > :38:47.Tokyo. Can we get a decision live on BBC Two now, are you going to Tokyo

:38:48. > :38:52.2020? We are still undecided. Is their pressure to make the decision?

:38:53. > :38:57.We don't, really. We will have a break for now and see how we feel.

:38:58. > :39:00.And you have a lot of things on your mind, because you have a wedding

:39:01. > :39:07.coming up, you had the hen do in Rio, how was that? If you go to Rio,

:39:08. > :39:12.why not have a hen do? We went to a samba dancing class, it was

:39:13. > :39:19.incredible. Have you got an invitation? I am made of honour! You

:39:20. > :39:23.have had so much focus on those four years, and you were telling me

:39:24. > :39:27.before, the alarm goes off, it is a seven day a week job for four years,

:39:28. > :39:33.so that is why you are suddenly enjoying all this, but to have that

:39:34. > :39:37.to be organised as well. Yes, every single minute of every single day,

:39:38. > :39:41.no exaggeration, for four years, has been about seven minutes of racing

:39:42. > :39:45.on that one day in August, it is all about the Olympic final, so there

:39:46. > :39:47.isn't much time for wedding planning or socialising, my mum has been

:39:48. > :39:53.amazing in helping plan the wedding, but it is all about that race. You

:39:54. > :39:59.have a homecoming parade in Penzance on Sunday. You were worried no one

:40:00. > :40:04.would turn up, but I don't think that will be the case! We are living

:40:05. > :40:08.at near Marlow at the moment, but I was brought up in Cornwall, so I

:40:09. > :40:10.gets to go home, and I'm so excited to take my medal home, because

:40:11. > :40:16.everyone has supported me for so long. Come rain or shine, the

:40:17. > :40:20.Cornish folk will be out. We have had so many people bringing their

:40:21. > :40:25.medals, we talk about dominance in sport, but your dominance in

:40:26. > :40:30.particular in the coxless pairs, 39 races is astonishing. Has that sunk

:40:31. > :40:36.in? We have to go back to 2011 to see the last time you two were

:40:37. > :40:46.beaten. Everyday we train, it is just what we do. It has come from a

:40:47. > :40:49.lot of hard work, it isn't a big coincidence, and we didn't sit there

:40:50. > :40:54.four years ago and say, we must not lose a race. We said, the race we

:40:55. > :40:59.have to win as the Rio final, so how do we get there? And Robin, our

:41:00. > :41:03.coach, it has just happened it means winning races, but you win one and

:41:04. > :41:08.you don't want to lose the next, so there is a competitive spirit behind

:41:09. > :41:12.it. From everyone at the BBC and watching, huge congratulations, it

:41:13. > :41:16.is amazing to watch, and I think we got a yes that they will both be at

:41:17. > :41:20.Tokyo! They will think about it. Thank you very much, well.

:41:21. > :41:22.Ministers are gathering for a brainstorming summit on how

:41:23. > :41:24.to negotiate the UK's exit from the EU.

:41:25. > :41:26.Theresa May has called the cabinet to Chequers,

:41:27. > :41:29.the Prime Minister's country residence, to thrash out a strategy.

:41:30. > :41:31.She's reportedly told them to come armed with ideas

:41:32. > :41:35.The key issues are expected to be the single market

:41:36. > :41:42.Mrs May has already said the Government won't trigger Article

:41:43. > :41:44.50 and the process of separation until at least the

:41:45. > :41:51.Let's talk now to Conservative MPs Kwasi Kwarteng, who voted

:41:52. > :41:54.for Britain to leave the EU, and Sir Peter Bottomley,

:41:55. > :42:03.Thank you both for coming in. Sir Peter, you didn't want Britain to

:42:04. > :42:11.leave, but you have said the best now needs to be made of the

:42:12. > :42:18.situation. Before the decision was made, we didn't want to come out or

:42:19. > :42:25.get terribly far away. We have close neighbours and close trading ties,

:42:26. > :42:35.and now we need to look at making exciting exciting. My advice would

:42:36. > :42:39.be, don't start putting stories in the paper about yourself, the

:42:40. > :42:43.ministers, just work corporate only... But what would your ideal B

:42:44. > :42:49.Right now when you look at balancing trade and immigration? The European

:42:50. > :42:53.Union needs reform, so by leaving, we have to be saying to them, why

:42:54. > :42:57.did you come with us and makes the EU change, we will come back if you

:42:58. > :43:04.make it different. Why would they listen to us. This is about scoring

:43:05. > :43:07.forward now, so what we want? The answered your question is it is good

:43:08. > :43:11.for us and good them. We don't want things to be good for us and bad for

:43:12. > :43:16.them, we want things to be good for us and good for others. How you see

:43:17. > :43:19.it? I think Peter is right, we have to corporate in a spirit of

:43:20. > :43:23.friendliness and corporation, but I do think this issue of freedom of

:43:24. > :43:27.movement is important, and for example, it was the fact that David

:43:28. > :43:31.Cameron couldn't get a concession on freedom of movement, that is what

:43:32. > :43:36.caused this whole thing to happen in the first place in many ways, and

:43:37. > :43:40.certainly from my point of view and many people in my constituency, the

:43:41. > :43:44.reason we voted out was we wanted to get a concession on freedom of

:43:45. > :43:48.movement. If they come to us and say, that isn't possible, we have to

:43:49. > :43:54.look at perhaps even exiting the single market. So the freedom of

:43:55. > :43:58.movement from several thing as far as you are concerned? We had a Prime

:43:59. > :44:01.Minister who left, he lost a referendum. One of the big issues in

:44:02. > :44:06.that referendum was this issue of freedom of movement, and if we don't

:44:07. > :44:13.get a concession on this... When you say a concession, what should it be?

:44:14. > :44:18.Anyone with an EU passport can come to Britain, without a job, they

:44:19. > :44:22.could just come, and during the course of the campaign, this was a

:44:23. > :44:27.big issue. So what should it look like going forward? What I am saying

:44:28. > :44:30.is we need to have a situation in which people don't have the right,

:44:31. > :44:34.they don't simply have the right to come, they have to have a job in

:44:35. > :44:37.order to come, there has to be some sort of arrangement. So not a

:44:38. > :44:42.situation like Norway which has to accept freedom of movement? I don't

:44:43. > :44:50.see why we had the referendum on the first place. So it is a red line for

:44:51. > :44:55.you? For me it is. Sir Peter, would it be a red line for you? I come

:44:56. > :45:00.from a family of people who have tried to find agreements, local

:45:01. > :45:06.diplomats, local service, doctors, teachers. Rather than just draw red

:45:07. > :45:11.lines were you box yourself in, you have to try to say to your partners

:45:12. > :45:15.in Europe and the rest of the world, let's go on developing the rest of

:45:16. > :45:18.the world which has free trade, movement of people who have jobs and

:45:19. > :45:22.are needed, let's consider what people can do when they retire,

:45:23. > :45:26.which is quite important, people shouldn't be tied to their own

:45:27. > :45:29.country in retirement, which is a variation on freedom of movement. It

:45:30. > :45:33.is the ability to do things rather than always the right to do them.

:45:34. > :45:36.What about people voted for here, and a very clear message was, we

:45:37. > :45:41.don't want that freedom of movement any more.

:45:42. > :45:49.I was trying to put it more delicately. But you need to look at

:45:50. > :45:54.it both ways. The ability of my hospital to recruit east European

:45:55. > :45:58.doctors and nurses saying, we have a job, will you come here, you can do

:45:59. > :46:02.it easily from the Philippines. It is not always easy but if there is a

:46:03. > :46:07.job, you can come for categories of workers. That is an ability to come.

:46:08. > :46:12.We are not questioning that. The issue is people coming on spec. It's

:46:13. > :46:16.about who gets the right to decide on whether the government gets to

:46:17. > :46:22.decide? That is right. There is an issue about people coming to Britain

:46:23. > :46:25.who don't have jobs, coming to Britain because they have the right

:46:26. > :46:27.to and they may pick up jobs, they may do what ever they are doing.

:46:28. > :46:30.That's one of the fundamental issues about this debate. When you are

:46:31. > :46:35.describing what you are describing in terms of who should be allowed to

:46:36. > :46:39.come in, that is then insuring that the government has the right to

:46:40. > :46:44.decide, isn't it? Which is completely different. The way the

:46:45. > :46:48.process works, partly government, partly the people. Partly what the

:46:49. > :46:52.law says. There are three or four players in this. The other thing to

:46:53. > :46:56.bear in mind is that we need to keep an eye on what we want for the

:46:57. > :46:59.long-term, for us, for Europe, for the world and work out the

:47:00. > :47:05.transition, which will be very complicated. Most of our

:47:06. > :47:08.environmental protections are within the European Union and the world,

:47:09. > :47:13.how do we come out of those? That should be easy. The questions of

:47:14. > :47:16.tariffs should be easy. The question of things like the rights of

:47:17. > :47:24.European health insurance when we go abroad, that should be manageable.

:47:25. > :47:28.These things require time. The word corporation is the right one. We

:47:29. > :47:34.would agree on three things, those who voted to stay in and go out and

:47:35. > :47:38.agree on three quarters of the things. Let's not look for punch-ups

:47:39. > :47:43.but practical things. My resolvers to get things good for the United

:47:44. > :47:47.Kingdom and Europe and the world. -- resolve is. The Paulao at Chequers,

:47:48. > :47:52.do you expect that to end in consensus? -- the talks going on at

:47:53. > :47:56.Chequers. We have different views and needs to cooperate but in a

:47:57. > :48:00.negotiation we need to look after our interests and they will look

:48:01. > :48:04.after their interests. We have do have a spirit of openness and listen

:48:05. > :48:08.to what to the people have decided and what they voted. We had a very

:48:09. > :48:12.clear message. I would suggest to the Prime Minister and the

:48:13. > :48:13.government that they need to take on board what actually happened in the

:48:14. > :48:22.referendum. Every media should say to anyone who

:48:23. > :48:27.briefs on behalf of an individual cabinet minister, we are recording

:48:28. > :48:31.this and we will use it. Just ban of the record briefings by individual

:48:32. > :48:32.Cabinet ministers and then you have the government work better. We will

:48:33. > :48:34.see if that happens. Thank you. The US singer Chris Brown

:48:35. > :48:38.is arrested after a day long We'll get the full story

:48:39. > :48:52.from our entertainment team. Pregnant women and new mothers often

:48:53. > :49:01.face shocking treatment at work. Including being forced

:49:02. > :49:03.out of their jobs. Members of the Women

:49:04. > :49:05.and Equalities Committee are calling for women to get better protection,

:49:06. > :49:07.including changes to health and safety practices,

:49:08. > :49:09.because of a rise in It says mothers are more

:49:10. > :49:13.likely to face negative treatment at work now,

:49:14. > :49:15.than they were a decade ago. With me in the studio

:49:16. > :49:17.are Fiona Chow. She was made redundant two weeks

:49:18. > :49:19.before returning to work Also, Madihia Hussain, who runs her

:49:20. > :49:23.own business employing mums. Emily May Buning, a mum of two

:49:24. > :49:26.from Germany who feels the system works better for mums

:49:27. > :49:28.there than it does in the UK. Jessica Shears, who advises small

:49:29. > :49:31.business on maternity policy and Sue Coe from the European

:49:32. > :49:43.Human Rights Commission. Thank you for joining us. Fiona,

:49:44. > :49:46.tell us, first of all, you were made redundant two weeks before you were

:49:47. > :49:50.due to return back from maternity leave. Two weeks before I was due to

:49:51. > :49:53.return to work, I was called for a meeting with my boss who was in San

:49:54. > :49:57.Francisco and the manager of the London office and was informed that,

:49:58. > :50:01.due to a restructure, my role was being made redundant and they were

:50:02. > :50:03.beginning the consultation process. It was a bit of a shock and a

:50:04. > :50:10.surprise. It was a hugely stressful process to

:50:11. > :50:14.go through with a young baby, worrying about how I was going to

:50:15. > :50:18.find a new role, when I was going to find a new role at how difficult it

:50:19. > :50:23.would be. What happened? Were you effectively out? Did you go back? I

:50:24. > :50:27.left at the end of October after the consultation process and the person

:50:28. > :50:30.covering my maternity leave was kept on on a temporary basis and later

:50:31. > :50:41.given the role permanently at a more senior role. Did you feel it was

:50:42. > :50:43.because you had had a baby? I felt one aspect of it, certainly. Until

:50:44. > :50:45.then, all of my performance appraisals had been stellar, the

:50:46. > :50:48.only material changed between that and being made redundant was that I

:50:49. > :50:52.had a baby. Did you think about legal action? I took legal advice,

:50:53. > :50:56.as was the process, but I eventually felt that I wasn't in the emotional

:50:57. > :51:00.and financial and physical state to be able to confront the prospect of

:51:01. > :51:05.really lengthy tribunal action. That is the problem with women, less than

:51:06. > :51:06.1% of women take the cases to tribunal because of issues like

:51:07. > :51:14.that. You have a nine-year-old son, used

:51:15. > :51:16.to be a marketing consultant, what has your experience been of being a

:51:17. > :51:25.working mother? When I was working in the corporate

:51:26. > :51:29.world I found that I had to constantly hide the fact that I was

:51:30. > :51:32.a mother, that I have responsibilities outside of work,

:51:33. > :51:37.just so that I could fit into the culture of where I was working. Why

:51:38. > :51:42.did you feel you had to hide the fact you were a mother? It was just

:51:43. > :51:48.because I felt that if I had told them, straightaway, that I was a

:51:49. > :51:54.mother, and talk about my son and his responsibilities that he has at

:51:55. > :51:58.school, I would be seen as... You know, that I'm not as good as the

:51:59. > :52:04.other workers, the other employees. Was that coming from within you? Was

:52:05. > :52:07.that your fear or were things happening to make you have reason to

:52:08. > :52:13.be concerned about it? Where I was working, there was nobody that

:52:14. > :52:18.was... None of the employees were mothers or fathers. I was the only

:52:19. > :52:26.person that was a mother in the environment. I already felt that I

:52:27. > :52:30.was special, being there. I wondered why there weren't other parents

:52:31. > :52:34.there. I thought maybe because they didn't fit in. Within myself, I had

:52:35. > :52:40.this fear of discussing it too much. When I did try to discuss it, I kind

:52:41. > :52:45.of felt like, you know, there wasn't much of an interest. My peers were

:52:46. > :52:47.just... They just had other things they were talking about. Let's bring

:52:48. > :52:54.in an early. You are in Germany and you are a

:52:55. > :52:58.mother of two -- let's bring in Emily. Did you have concerns about

:52:59. > :53:05.being discriminated against because you are a working mum? I have never

:53:06. > :53:10.experienced anything like that. The kids Fiona described would not be

:53:11. > :53:16.possible in Germany because we have the legal right to take parental

:53:17. > :53:21.leave. Your employer cannot terminate your contract right you

:53:22. > :53:24.are on parental leave. You have the right to return to your post after

:53:25. > :53:29.parental leave, which can be up to three years, we have a different

:53:30. > :53:34.legal situation in Germany. Jessica, you are a manager with the company

:53:35. > :53:36.and you advise small and medium-sized businesses on maternity

:53:37. > :53:44.issues. Is the law clear-cut? It's difficult to comment on the

:53:45. > :53:50.changes in legislation without actually seeing it in full. I think

:53:51. > :53:52.it's a shame that we have to bring in new legislation, because

:53:53. > :53:55.standards are obviously slipping at the moment.

:53:56. > :54:01.We hope as employers we are meeting standards and it is a shame that

:54:02. > :54:06.employers aren't. Is it a headache for a small company of someone goes

:54:07. > :54:08.on maternity leave? It is difficult for businesses, financially and

:54:09. > :54:13.operationally, you lose a key member of the team which has the skills and

:54:14. > :54:14.knowledge of the client and customer base. But more and more women are in

:54:15. > :54:21.the workplace. Employers would be selling

:54:22. > :54:29.themselves short if they are not able to... Give the women in the

:54:30. > :54:32.package that they require. Sue, your perspective with the European rights

:54:33. > :54:36.commission, are you surprised to know the number of expectant and new

:54:37. > :54:41.mothers forced to leave their job has almost doubled since 2005? It

:54:42. > :54:46.was research that we carried out but revealed this shocking rise, over

:54:47. > :54:51.the past ten years -- that reveal. In discrimination against pregnant

:54:52. > :54:56.women and new mothers. It is 54,000 women, every year, forced out of

:54:57. > :54:59.their jobs. What do you put it down to? We looked at this really

:55:00. > :55:05.carefully and conducted the biggest piece of research that had been

:55:06. > :55:10.done. We found a number of complex reasons. Some employers just don't

:55:11. > :55:18.know what their obligations are. Just don't know? Yeah. Jessica, what

:55:19. > :55:21.do you think about that? Is that really true. Surely that is the

:55:22. > :55:24.absolute responsibility of an employer to know their

:55:25. > :55:28.responsibilities. Yes. As accountants, that is the questions

:55:29. > :55:32.we get, what our employees entitled to, what do we need to do? We advise

:55:33. > :55:38.on that. If businesses don't know, they need to seek the advice. What

:55:39. > :55:42.we found in our research, something like health and safety, a really

:55:43. > :55:47.important thing for pregnant women and new mothers, 21,000 women are

:55:48. > :55:51.being forced out of their jobs every year, forced to choose between the

:55:52. > :55:56.health of the unborn baby, their health and their job. But only 4% of

:55:57. > :55:59.employers seek advice and guidance on health and safety. Explain that a

:56:00. > :56:05.bit more, what are the issues with health and safety? With house and

:56:06. > :56:09.safety, of course, there are additional risks that need to be

:56:10. > :56:16.managed -- with health and safety. When one of your employees is

:56:17. > :56:21.pregnant. More manual jobs? Yeah, manual jobs and other jobs, handling

:56:22. > :56:25.chemicals, exposure to radiation or if you are a care worker, working

:56:26. > :56:30.with lifting, people who may lash out at you. There are things which

:56:31. > :56:33.may need to be taken into account. There are practical realities, is

:56:34. > :56:41.there a way around that? What we found was that we employers had open

:56:42. > :56:47.and ongoing conversations with pregnant women about what they

:56:48. > :56:51.needed, what they wanted, how to and all risks, these were easily

:56:52. > :56:54.resolved by things like a woman with bad morning sickness coming in this

:56:55. > :57:00.later -- how to handle risks. Providing chairs. The -- these are

:57:01. > :57:05.not complex things. Employers need support and information and women

:57:06. > :57:08.need support and information. Do have these informed early

:57:09. > :57:16.conversations. You now volunteer with the campaign group Pregnant

:57:17. > :57:22.Then Screwed what are your worst examples. We had 500 people share

:57:23. > :57:25.their stories in the US, UK and Spain. Blatant and horrific examples

:57:26. > :57:29.of discrimination like being fired or made redundant but then more like

:57:30. > :57:37.the insidiously discrimination examples. Lack of opportunities, for

:57:38. > :57:41.example. Suddenly, a promotion that was in the offing has disappeared.

:57:42. > :57:46.In some ways, they are more damaging because they affect the underlying

:57:47. > :57:50.confidence of women. They have a huge factor in the amount of women

:57:51. > :57:54.who go back to work after having a baby. Is it fair to say you are

:57:55. > :57:59.putting it down to ignorance on the part of the employers rather than

:58:00. > :58:05.malign intentions? There is always a mixture. We know there are bad

:58:06. > :58:08.employers who, you know, don't just need information and support but

:58:09. > :58:17.there are a lot of employers who can be helped by proper, easily

:58:18. > :58:20.accessible information and support. That is why at the equality and

:58:21. > :58:25.human rights commission, we are starting a new initiative where we

:58:26. > :58:30.have leading firms like Ford, Barkley 's, John Lewis, who know the

:58:31. > :58:36.value to their business of getting this right -- Barclays. They will

:58:37. > :58:40.join and talk to their peers across business and give them advice and

:58:41. > :58:45.support about how to get things right. Jessica, quickly, as the

:58:46. > :58:49.voice, effectively, of employers in this particular discussion, what is

:58:50. > :58:53.your take on that? I think that is a fantastic idea to bring up the

:58:54. > :58:56.standards set across the country. Thank you for joining us, let us

:58:57. > :58:59.know your experiences of being a working mother.

:59:00. > :59:03.Let's get the latest weather update, with Alex.

:59:04. > :59:10.Thank you, of clout going south, cloudier than yesterday. Not quite

:59:11. > :59:16.so warm for many of us. Satellite images. A cold front and it produced

:59:17. > :59:19.a fair bit of rain, still providing some rain as it trickles across

:59:20. > :59:23.northern England, the Midlands over the next few hours, clearing from

:59:24. > :59:29.Wales with damp weather over south-west England. A band of cloud

:59:30. > :59:33.in east Anglia and the south-east. Also a few showers, quite a blustery

:59:34. > :59:40.day in the far north-west in Scotland, strong winds. Afternoon

:59:41. > :59:45.sunshine, 20 degrees, before the cloud builds in across East Anglia

:59:46. > :59:49.and the south-east, 23 or 24. Not as warm as yesterday. The cloud

:59:50. > :59:53.disappears this evening and showers will fade in the north-west and the

:59:54. > :59:59.wind will die down. A dry and comfortable night. 13 or 14. It will

:00:00. > :00:03.be a fine day for many tomorrow but it gets conjugated as we go through

:00:04. > :00:07.Friday and the weekend in particular you will need your umbrella,

:00:08. > :00:32.potential for heavy rain on Saturday -- it gets complicated.

:00:33. > :00:37.Because I have first-hand experience of what could happen, could not see

:00:38. > :00:42.the point of putting myself in the same position. I took something

:00:43. > :00:44.else. In many respects, I am a broken man. The Army has broken me,

:00:45. > :00:53.the government has broken me. Why do the British government

:00:54. > :00:57.continued to give this drug to its serving members? You can watch the

:00:58. > :01:07.full film. We will get the reaction of two

:01:08. > :01:11.women who believe Lariam played a part in the deaths of their

:01:12. > :01:15.husbands. Back from the holidays and straight down to Brexit business,

:01:16. > :01:21.Theresa May calls her cabinets to a brainstorming session at Chequers.

:01:22. > :01:25.Does your preschooler worry about how they look? A new survey suggests

:01:26. > :01:28.a quarter of children aged between three and five are unhappy with

:01:29. > :01:32.their bodies and it gets worse as they get older. We have the details.

:01:33. > :01:36.We bring you the latest on singer Chris Brown who was arrested after a

:01:37. > :01:38.daylong stand-off with police after a woman said he threatened her with

:01:39. > :02:28.a gun at her home. He visited Africa as a civilian in

:02:29. > :02:31.the late 1990s. The Ministry of Defence said it had a duty to

:02:32. > :02:37.protect its personnel from malaria. In some cases, Lariam was the most

:02:38. > :02:42.effective way of doing that. My middle son, who was prescribed

:02:43. > :02:46.Lariam, was in Africa shortly after taking his first couple of doses. He

:02:47. > :02:53.became very unwell, very quickly. He was flown back to the UK. At that

:02:54. > :02:59.point, he stopped taking Lariam and recovered from the physical effects

:03:00. > :03:02.of Lariam. Over a period of time, there were mental health issues.

:03:03. > :03:06.Because I had first-hand experience of what could happen, I could not

:03:07. > :03:11.see the point of putting myself in the same position. So I took

:03:12. > :03:15.something else. The Cabinet will hold its first meeting after the

:03:16. > :03:19.summer break today as Theresa May looks to plan the next steps in

:03:20. > :03:25.Britain's exit from the European Union. The meeting will be held at

:03:26. > :03:29.Chequers. Senior ministers have been asked to consider the opportunities

:03:30. > :03:35.presented by Brexit. And to come to the summit armed with ideas. A

:03:36. > :03:40.17-year-old boy has died after being pulled from the sea after being

:03:41. > :03:41.pulled from the River Wear in Sunderland. He got into

:03:42. > :04:29.difficulties. Airport officials say the extent of

:04:30. > :04:33.the delays are not yet clear. Police had to close parts of terminal one

:04:34. > :04:35.after a passenger entered the air side part of the airport without

:04:36. > :04:52.fully completing the security check. Thank you for the comments you have

:04:53. > :04:56.been sending through to us on body image. Lots getting in touch.

:04:57. > :05:01.Janmaat on Facebook, they will have a problem if parents tell them --

:05:02. > :05:07.Janet. At three, they would not be aware of it. On what that, nothing

:05:08. > :05:10.will change the view of children's body if the media does not say that

:05:11. > :05:19.size zero is beautiful. Mike says care about body image?

:05:20. > :05:23.Just go out and enjoy yourselves and climb a tree. Thank you for your

:05:24. > :05:29.comments. Lots of you getting in touch on the interview I did with

:05:30. > :05:34.General Sir Richard Dunnett. We will talk more about that and Lariam and

:05:35. > :05:37.its side-effects shortly. Get in touch.

:05:38. > :05:49.I am with Sir Trevor arriving in marvellous shoes to talk about

:05:50. > :05:57.transfer deadline day. 13 hours to go in England, 14 in Scotland. Joe

:05:58. > :06:01.Hart off to Torino, a good move? 11th in Serie A last season, could

:06:02. > :06:06.he not have done better? Possibly but as a goalkeeper you need to be

:06:07. > :06:11.used, not sat in the goal, not having to make saves. He will get

:06:12. > :06:14.plenty of action in the game at Torino. With his career and

:06:15. > :06:22.seemingly going anywhere with Manchester City it is a good move.

:06:23. > :06:28.If you look at Italian football, it is probably one of the best

:06:29. > :06:32.defensively in Europe, and why not? It would benefit him in the

:06:33. > :06:39.long-term. Loads more to talk about, Wilfried Bony after Stoke. Jack

:06:40. > :06:43.Wilshire, this young bright star, potentially now at Crystal Palace on

:06:44. > :06:48.loan from Arsenal. Crystal Palace and Bournemouth have been rumoured.

:06:49. > :06:52.He was put into the England squad in the summer unfairly, he has not

:06:53. > :06:55.played a lot of football, if any at all, last season, and to be put into

:06:56. > :07:00.the England squad and expects to come up trumps when they needed you,

:07:01. > :07:06.it was a big call. I feel it is a good move for him, he needs to play

:07:07. > :07:11.football and keep his fitness. It is like Rooney, he needs to play every

:07:12. > :07:17.week, and we will soon see what he has got. He has great ability, great

:07:18. > :07:23.talent, we just haven't seen it enough, and I hope he gets some

:07:24. > :07:27.luck. I'm sure wherever he goes, whether it is Palace or Bournemouth,

:07:28. > :07:34.they will be getting a great midfield player. And what about

:07:35. > :07:41.Davide Louise? He left Chelsea for ?50 million, and is returning to ?20

:07:42. > :07:47.million. He wasn't a defender when he left. He has been playing for

:07:48. > :07:52.Paris St Germain, a great football team, and I think he has got rid of

:07:53. > :07:55.that little error, I have a feeling he liked to get a little too close,

:07:56. > :07:58.and his individual battles sometimes got the better of the bigger

:07:59. > :08:05.picture, which was winning the football match. And that could be a

:08:06. > :08:08.good signing under Antonio Conte, I think he would look after him and

:08:09. > :08:14.get the best out of him. You have Jacob Zuma coming back as well, I

:08:15. > :08:17.would like to see Chelsea backing a centre forward. If you look at James

:08:18. > :08:23.Rodriguez, he is not being used well at Real Madrid,. Those are the

:08:24. > :08:27.thoughts of Trevor Sinclair, West Brom will need to new players,

:08:28. > :08:33.Moussa Sissoko is supposedly on his way to Spurs. Lots to happen over

:08:34. > :08:39.the next 13 hours. Dan Walker is on BBC One at 10.45, and we will have

:08:40. > :08:45.updates on Sports day at half past six and half past ten.

:08:46. > :08:48.Thank you very much. The former head of the British Army tells us he

:08:49. > :08:53.refused to take a drug he knew was being given to his troops because of

:08:54. > :08:56.his concerns about its safety. General Dannatt is speaking for the

:08:57. > :09:00.very first time about his own son's mental health issues after an Army

:09:01. > :09:06.doctor gave him the antimalarial drug Lariam. He says his son,

:09:07. > :09:10.Bertie, a former soldier who had taken Lariam try to becoming a

:09:11. > :09:16.soldier became extremely depressed when he took it in the late 1990s.

:09:17. > :09:18.General Dannatt is urging the Ministry of Defence to show

:09:19. > :09:23.generosity towards service men and women seeking compensation over its

:09:24. > :09:29.effects. This is a snapshot of the film we played you earlier.

:09:30. > :09:33.In an extraordinary revelation, the former head of the British Army

:09:34. > :09:39.tells us he refused to take a drug that was being given to his troops

:09:40. > :09:45.because he didn't think it was safe. General Sir David Richards on at

:09:46. > :09:49.tells us his own son, Bertie, suffered mental health issues after

:09:50. > :09:53.an army doctor gave him Lariam. He was in Africa shortly after taking

:09:54. > :09:59.his first couple of doses, and became very unwell very quickly. He

:10:00. > :10:07.became extremely depressed, not the person that he would normally be, he

:10:08. > :10:10.was normally very bubbly. He got very withdrawn, and we got very

:10:11. > :10:21.worried about him. Have you ever taken Lariam? No. Because Bertie had

:10:22. > :10:24.that effect, whenever I take antimalarial drugs, I said, I will

:10:25. > :10:30.take anything, I am not taking Lariam. And at the same time... I

:10:31. > :10:33.took something else on one occasion and make myself very ill, but that

:10:34. > :10:38.wasn't the mental health issue. You knew you wouldn't take Lariam at the

:10:39. > :10:49.same time as members who were serving under you were taking it.

:10:50. > :10:54.Yes. That is true. But again, I think it was because the

:10:55. > :11:01.organisation hadn't reached a settled view on whether Lariam was

:11:02. > :11:06.beneficial... But if it wasn't good enough you shouldn't have been good

:11:07. > :11:08.anybody serving on the? Because I had first-hand experience of what

:11:09. > :11:14.could happen, I couldn't see the point of putting myself in the same

:11:15. > :11:22.position, so I took something else. But other people were being put in

:11:23. > :11:26.the position. This is true. But I think I come back to the fact that

:11:27. > :11:29.the Ministry of Defence as an organisation was still trying to

:11:30. > :11:36.come to the conclusion in general terms whether the effects were

:11:37. > :11:42.beneficial or harmful. The effect almost immediate. It was as if the

:11:43. > :11:51.wiring in your brain had completely gone or completely rewired. I do get

:11:52. > :11:57.depressed to the point of suicidal thoughts. Since 1997, the British

:11:58. > :12:01.and a formulary which GPs consult when prescribing medicines has made

:12:02. > :12:06.absolutely clear what anyone being given Lariam should be told about

:12:07. > :12:08.it. It lists a series of neuropsychiatric side-effects, and

:12:09. > :12:11.says the drug must be stopped immediately if any of them are

:12:12. > :12:16.experienced. We have spoken to many members of the military who say they

:12:17. > :12:21.were simply not made aware of that. We were just told, this is what you

:12:22. > :12:27.are taking, away you go. Were you told there might be side-effects?

:12:28. > :12:29.Not at all. In a statement, the Ministry of Defence said the vast

:12:30. > :12:34.majority of deployed personnel already receive alternatives to

:12:35. > :12:40.Lariam, and where it is used, it is only prescribed after an individual

:12:41. > :12:45.risk assessment. In many respects, I am a broken man. The Army has broken

:12:46. > :12:50.me, the Government has broken me. Why do the British Government

:12:51. > :12:57.continue to give this drug to it serving members?

:12:58. > :13:04.If you want to share or watch that film again, please head our

:13:05. > :13:10.programme page. We can talk now to Dr Louis Lillywhite, a former

:13:11. > :13:16.Surgeon General in the British Armed Forces the 2009, Alan Duncan whose

:13:17. > :13:20.husband Alistair died last month, he took Lariam during his time in the

:13:21. > :13:23.military. We're also joined by Johnny Mercer, MP on the Defence

:13:24. > :13:26.Select Committee and former Army officer, and from Sydney by Dr Jane

:13:27. > :13:33.Quinn, whose husband Cameron took his own life in 2006, and she feels

:13:34. > :13:38.Lariam played a part in his death. Thank you all very much for joining

:13:39. > :13:51.us. LN, our condolences for the loss of your husband Alistair. In 1993 he

:13:52. > :13:55.was in Bosnia and caught up in an explosion. He had post-traumatic

:13:56. > :13:59.stress disorder, but when he was deployed to Sierra Leone in 2000, he

:14:00. > :14:05.was prescribed Lariam, and you believe Lariam played a part in what

:14:06. > :14:09.happened to him at his death. What is your reaction to hearing General

:14:10. > :14:14.Dannatt say he would have taken any drugs but Lariam for malaria? I

:14:15. > :14:19.think it is very sad that they are put into such a position. I think it

:14:20. > :14:24.is very difficult when you are in that position of command if what is

:14:25. > :14:34.being given is something else, and you feel you shouldn't take it I

:14:35. > :14:39.don't really know how they could have stood out against what was the

:14:40. > :14:43.general orders, because that is what they were, really. They were orders

:14:44. > :14:48.that you took this drug. Why are you so sure that Lariam played a part in

:14:49. > :14:53.what happened to your husband, who had suffered post-traumatic stress

:14:54. > :15:00.disorder? There was a question of post-traumatic stress. There are so

:15:01. > :15:09.many factors, and it is difficult to peace them apart. It was his

:15:10. > :15:13.reaction to drugs to treat the symptoms, he reacted well to

:15:14. > :15:20.anti-convulsants, and Lariam is known to cause seizure disorder. He

:15:21. > :15:27.reacted very badly to anti-psychotics, and to

:15:28. > :15:30.benzodiazepines, they caused paradoxical reactions. The drug is

:15:31. > :15:34.not recommended for anybody who has an existing mental health condition.

:15:35. > :15:39.How do you feel about the fact that he was given Lariam? I think it was

:15:40. > :15:44.very early on in the knowledge of that, so that is a difficult

:15:45. > :15:48.question. But in 1996, they did know it shouldn't have been given if you

:15:49. > :15:54.had any form of question. Let's bring in Jane Quinn from Sydney.

:15:55. > :15:59.Your husband took Lariam in 2001 in Kenya, he took his own life in 2006,

:16:00. > :16:03.and you believe there was a direct link. When you hear General Dannatt

:16:04. > :16:11.say he wouldn't take it, what is your reaction? I'm quite incensed,

:16:12. > :16:15.to be honest. The symptoms that he describes in his son are exactly the

:16:16. > :16:24.same as the symptoms I saw in my own husband. Identical reaction. I wrote

:16:25. > :16:30.to General Dannatt in 2006 after the death of my husband, describing what

:16:31. > :16:36.had happened to him, and asking him, urging him, pleading with him to

:16:37. > :16:40.review the use of Lariam in the British military at that point in

:16:41. > :16:45.time. Certain now know that he actually had pre-existing knowledge

:16:46. > :16:50.of how dangerous this drug could be from personal experience, was

:16:51. > :16:56.refusing to take it himself, but did not intervene to prevent the drug

:16:57. > :17:02.being given without any appropriate information on side-effects to large

:17:03. > :17:17.numbers of troops from that point onwards, I think is unforgivable, to

:17:18. > :17:20.be honest, and I think that also the Surgeon General at the time are

:17:21. > :17:24.culpable in the injury that has been caused thousands of troops who were

:17:25. > :17:28.given this drug without proper prescribing practices, and without

:17:29. > :17:33.records for when their symptoms were acknowledged. I have the Surgeon

:17:34. > :17:39.General Louis Lillywhite sitting next to me right now. Very handily

:17:40. > :17:43.brought in! Let me say out front that obviously Lariam does cause

:17:44. > :17:48.mental health issues, it is acknowledged as doing that. So do

:17:49. > :17:54.some of the other antimalarials, it is not the only other up one that

:17:55. > :17:57.does so. None of them are free from side effects, so it is a balancing

:17:58. > :18:04.act. Last year, half a million people died from malaria. Malaria

:18:05. > :18:09.kills. In the United Kingdom, we had 1500 cases in the United Kingdom. So

:18:10. > :18:15.it is a balancing act, I would make that point. There are other

:18:16. > :18:18.antimalarials yes, they have side-effects... But Lariam

:18:19. > :18:21.specifically, on the fact it was given to troops when it has known

:18:22. > :18:25.side effects, are you completely comfortable that in every case when

:18:26. > :18:28.a soldier was given Lariam that they were given it with the correct

:18:29. > :18:32.guidance, they were given an individual assessment and warned

:18:33. > :18:37.about the possibility of side-effects. It is difficult to say

:18:38. > :18:42.that... Shouldn't you be able to say yes? I should be able to say I am

:18:43. > :18:45.confident in the last four years. Why Emily the last four years?

:18:46. > :18:51.Because policies have developed as convocations have become known.

:18:52. > :18:56.Since 1987, it was in the British and formulary that GPs have... I

:18:57. > :19:01.agree with you, that should be the case. I know that on occasions it

:19:02. > :19:06.didn't happen. But you said in the last four years. That is a lot

:19:07. > :19:10.longer period when warnings should be given. I said with certainty in

:19:11. > :19:16.the last four years because of the way that the organisation has

:19:17. > :19:21.changed. But in terms of what has happened in the past, there have

:19:22. > :19:27.been occasions when almost certainly it was not given with the

:19:28. > :19:33.appropriate advice, as it were, often because of operational

:19:34. > :19:38.reasons. If I might actually say, in 2000, when the Prime Minister said

:19:39. > :19:42.to the Armed Forces, you will go to Sierra Leone and go tomorrow to

:19:43. > :19:47.rescue the British hostages, and to defeat those holding them, you went

:19:48. > :19:53.very quickly, and then of course I think that corners were cut...

:19:54. > :19:59.Are you saying, prior to the last four years, the drug was given

:20:00. > :20:04.without individual prescriptions? No, there might have been occasions

:20:05. > :20:09.when it would have been given. Jane wanted to come in. What has to be

:20:10. > :20:17.acknowledges that it is very likely, from the descriptions that we have

:20:18. > :20:21.been given, so far, and that are available through a number of

:20:22. > :20:24.different resources, but it is likely that the majority of people

:20:25. > :20:30.did not receive appropriate prescribing of Lariam from the time

:20:31. > :20:42.it was instigated in the British formulary for the military through

:20:43. > :20:49.to 2013. We know of 17,336 individuals between 2007 at 2015. At

:20:50. > :20:53.that point, Lariam was the second line antimalarial. Prior to that, it

:20:54. > :20:58.had been the drug of choice for a large number of deployments.

:20:59. > :21:05.The number of deployments prior to that could be substantially higher.

:21:06. > :21:09.It is very clear, from talking to many individuals it was the

:21:10. > :21:12.exception, rather than the rule, for them to receive any information on

:21:13. > :21:17.this drug, despite it being a prescription only drug. For the

:21:18. > :21:25.entire time it has been available in the UK. There is an important point

:21:26. > :21:28.which has not been covered at all. MPs and the population have made it

:21:29. > :21:33.clear to the Armed Forces that we must not withhold from the United

:21:34. > :21:38.Kingdom, the service population, treatments that are recognised and

:21:39. > :21:42.recommended for the general UK population. The decision on whether

:21:43. > :21:45.or not you should use Lariam is made by an expert committee. But it's

:21:46. > :21:49.about whether the appropriate warnings were given or not. If you

:21:50. > :21:56.look at the case specifically of General Dunnett's son, Bertie, he

:21:57. > :22:00.was prescribed Lariam in 1999 by a military doctor, he was not in the

:22:01. > :22:04.army but it was prior to him going into the army. As soon as he

:22:05. > :22:08.suffered side effects he stopped taking it and he suffered mental

:22:09. > :22:13.health issues that required treatment and they were treated. His

:22:14. > :22:16.case shows in 1999 that was recognised, presumably by the people

:22:17. > :22:21.treating him then, that it was vital that any side-effects were dealt

:22:22. > :22:27.with quickly. And that there was a warning so he recognised how to

:22:28. > :22:29.handle it. Indeed, in the early 90s, if you gave Biddulph Grange Lariam,

:22:30. > :22:36.you early to identify whether there were

:22:37. > :22:41.side-effects -- if you gave Lariam. If that wasn't being done in many

:22:42. > :22:47.case, how are there so many cases, 17,000 cases... How come there are

:22:48. > :22:53.so many cases where there have been side-effects and they clearly

:22:54. > :22:57.weren't dealt with? I am not sure of the truthfulness of that figure.

:22:58. > :23:01.Bearing in mind this national committee which is nothing to do

:23:02. > :23:05.with the MOD but a group of experts, looks at all complications of all

:23:06. > :23:10.antimalarial drugs. It will be the case that if they consider the

:23:11. > :23:14.side-effects are significant, and greater than other antimalarial

:23:15. > :23:18.drugs, they withdraw the recommendation. If an individual is

:23:19. > :23:22.told, on taking a drug, if you experience any side effect, you must

:23:23. > :23:30.stop taking it immediately and seek medical treatment. Yes. You would do

:23:31. > :23:34.it, wouldn't you? Yes. Clearly, people weren't always reporting.

:23:35. > :23:38.That is right. Alistair was given something else but it appears he

:23:39. > :23:43.took both. Because he was so affected. You can be so affected,

:23:44. > :23:48.immediately. Soldiers tend to follow orders. If he had misunderstood,

:23:49. > :23:52.which is very likely, because it says six months later he is still

:23:53. > :23:56.taking it appears not to be a problem, he said, I was having bad

:23:57. > :24:02.dreams, terrible dreams from Bosnia. He said, I didn't realise this was

:24:03. > :24:09.so serious. Was he told he should stop taking it? He was. No, I don't

:24:10. > :24:13.know. He was given something else but he appeared to be taking both.

:24:14. > :24:17.Nowadays, there would be an individual risk assessment where the

:24:18. > :24:20.doctor looks at the notes, looks at past medical history and will make

:24:21. > :24:25.an individual decision on that basis. Back in the early 90s and

:24:26. > :24:30.2000, the soldiers will be told, this could cause side-effects. They

:24:31. > :24:32.would be given the drug in advance of deployment. There may be one

:24:33. > :24:40.exception. They are told they get side-effects

:24:41. > :24:44.and dreams are one that dominate. If that happens, they should stop

:24:45. > :24:49.taking drugs and given another one instead and that is what I believe

:24:50. > :24:53.happens. It isn't happening. This is anecdotal, we know of one young man

:24:54. > :24:59.who was sent to Afghanistan, Mehdi back back with a bad reaction, sent

:25:00. > :25:03.back at three months later was given it again. Let's bring in Johnny, he

:25:04. > :25:06.carried out the report, health select committee, what is your

:25:07. > :25:10.reaction to what you are hearing, today?

:25:11. > :25:15.I'm listening very clearly to what the Surgeon General is saying and I

:25:16. > :25:18.get a bit tired of families constantly being told that malaria

:25:19. > :25:22.is a killer and all drugs have side effects, everybody knows that. This

:25:23. > :25:25.is a very clear case that the manufacturer said, if you give out

:25:26. > :25:29.this drug, which is very effective against malaria, which is a killer

:25:30. > :25:32.disease, you need to go through these procedures. Those procedures

:25:33. > :25:40.were not followed, it is as simple as that. What Lord Dannatt has said,

:25:41. > :25:43.I know Bertie, I know his son, I'm just very sorry there seems to have

:25:44. > :25:48.been so much collateral damage on this pathway to getting people

:25:49. > :25:53.looked after, properly, when it comes to dispensing this drug.

:25:54. > :25:58.Malaria is extremely dangerous. It's a killer. It killed a lot of people,

:25:59. > :26:02.last year, as we have just heard. But it is not good enough to simply

:26:03. > :26:06.say, we should do this differently, because I know someone who has been

:26:07. > :26:11.affected by it. Or something like that. It is one of these issues,

:26:12. > :26:14.such as veteran's care or mental health, we've got to get with the

:26:15. > :26:17.programme on this. I don't understand why it takes so long in

:26:18. > :26:23.the country at the moment. I understand we are totally sort of,

:26:24. > :26:28.fixated on Brexit and so on, but none of this stuff happens, healthy

:26:29. > :26:32.economy, without the Armed Forces. Without getting defence right. A

:26:33. > :26:35.fundamental part of defence is looking after people. I don't know

:26:36. > :26:43.why it takes us so long to understand that. Your committee

:26:44. > :26:47.called for a near complete ban on Lariam, do you think there should be

:26:48. > :26:50.a total ban? Do you think there should be a more detailed report,

:26:51. > :26:54.looking back over what happened in the past?

:26:55. > :27:01.I think that is for the scientists, and those who are extremely clever,

:27:02. > :27:04.far cleverer than me, and all these matters to work out exactly what

:27:05. > :27:11.needs to be done. If you are going to use a drug that have clear

:27:12. > :27:13.guidelines on the use by manufacturers... If you give it to

:27:14. > :27:16.people with pre-existing mental health condition, they will get a

:27:17. > :27:21.lot worse. You should simply not be using it. It is a fairly basic

:27:22. > :27:25.point. All those points about malaria being a killer, all drugs

:27:26. > :27:29.having side-effects, yes, absolutely. But, if you are going to

:27:30. > :27:33.use this drug, you need to use it within these very clear parameters,

:27:34. > :27:37.set down by the manufacturer. If you don't do that, you need to explain

:27:38. > :27:41.why you haven't been doing that and look after people properly.

:27:42. > :27:47.That is absolutely right. I would not differ from anything that he

:27:48. > :27:50.said. If it's used, we know it needs to go through this individual risk

:27:51. > :27:55.assessment. We need to make sure, as I said, that the history doesn't

:27:56. > :28:01.include any mental health. Now. But what about those in the past, who

:28:02. > :28:07.were not dealt with in that way? This belies the... What do you want

:28:08. > :28:11.me to say about both? How do you put it right? If they have ongoing

:28:12. > :28:15.issues, that is something I think the Minister of the Armed Forces has

:28:16. > :28:19.said, has he not, that we will look into. It's not for me to be able to

:28:20. > :28:23.give you an opinion on that, but it is quite clear to me that if anybody

:28:24. > :28:27.in the Armed Forces has suffered illness or injury, as a result of

:28:28. > :28:32.anything that has happened to them in service, there should be

:28:33. > :28:36.appropriate compensation for that. That is a process that I hope the

:28:37. > :28:40.Ministry of Defence will go to. I understand it will. You are

:28:41. > :28:44.absolutely right, if anyone is damaged by virtue of their service,

:28:45. > :28:47.they need to be taken care of. Their needs to be appropriate measures in

:28:48. > :28:51.place to compensate them, that is absolutely right. But we do not have

:28:52. > :28:56.the facilities to care for them. The fact that my husband spent a year in

:28:57. > :28:59.a short stay unit, seven months he was held in the extra care area,

:29:00. > :29:03.which is effectively a corridor, with a piece of land with a green

:29:04. > :29:09.chain-link fence around it, made him feel it was a military prison. While

:29:10. > :29:19.they experimented with 20 different psychoactive medications. Absolutely

:29:20. > :29:22.unacceptable. I have everything documented. I warned, each time,

:29:23. > :29:24.please don't give him this, it happened. It got worse and worse.

:29:25. > :29:27.When we got him somewhere, we don't have the facilities. We need units.

:29:28. > :29:37.That is not a stand-alone case. There is... Chain just wanted to

:29:38. > :29:40.come in. -- Jane. There is huge stigma around this. When the

:29:41. > :29:46.Ministry of Defence is essentially denying or has been denying for a

:29:47. > :29:51.decade or more, that this is a serious health issue and it has been

:29:52. > :29:55.caused by taking this drug for active service in this particular

:29:56. > :30:02.population, remember, we only had a tacit admission of that in the last

:30:03. > :30:06.6-8 months, there has been enormous difficulty in people being able to

:30:07. > :30:14.access the right care, because this drug has not been taken into account

:30:15. > :30:18.in their diagnosis. As we have clearly identified, the damage that

:30:19. > :30:25.is done to the brain by Lariam, a physical damage at a chemical level,

:30:26. > :30:29.is not something that can be ignored, when looking at the use of

:30:30. > :30:32.various different drugs to treat the symptoms. Even though the symptoms

:30:33. > :31:39.may be very similar to a number of other psychiatric disorders.

:31:40. > :31:45.Whether it is caused by PTSD or something else. There are features

:31:46. > :31:51.which make it unique, but it is not easy. But in the case of Lariam, is

:31:52. > :31:52.any soldier given Lariam and not warned about the side-effects, were

:31:53. > :32:02.they let down? I can't identify any but I cannot

:32:03. > :32:05.say absolutely not. You said it is only in the last four years that the

:32:06. > :32:08.warnings for individual prescriptions would have been

:32:09. > :32:14.happening. There are a lot of people out there who have mental health

:32:15. > :32:17.issues in the veteran community. It is in this particular community that

:32:18. > :32:20.it is so important, because they are exposed to other factors such as

:32:21. > :37:05.blast injuries, traumatic things they see.

:37:06. > :37:08.The meeting will be held at Chequers, the Prime Minister's

:37:09. > :37:13.Senior ministers have been asked to consider the opportunities

:37:14. > :37:21.A 17-year-old boy has died after being pulled from the sea

:37:22. > :37:25.at the mouth of the River Wear in Sunderland.

:37:26. > :37:26.A search and rescue operation was launched

:37:27. > :37:31.teenagers in a dinghy ran into problems on the water.

:37:32. > :37:32.Two girls and another boy were quickly rescued.

:37:33. > :37:35.The 17-year-old boy was airlifted to hospital in Newcastle,

:37:36. > :37:45.A senior commander of the Islamist terror group,

:37:46. > :37:52.Media linked to IS says Abu Muhammad al-Adnani

:37:53. > :37:58.It hasn't given any details of how he died, however the US military

:37:59. > :38:00.confirmed it targeted him during an air strike on Tuesday.

:38:01. > :38:02.Officials are still assessing the results.

:38:03. > :38:04.A teenage boy remains in custody after a 40-year-old Polish man

:38:05. > :38:08.was killed in Harlow in Essex at the weekend.

:38:09. > :38:17.The man, named locally, was attacked on Saturday and died on Monday.

:38:18. > :38:20.In total five 15-year-old boys and one 16-year-old boy were

:38:21. > :38:27.A vigil is being held in Harlow today.

:38:28. > :38:30.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom

:38:31. > :38:39.Let's catch up with the sport again now.

:38:40. > :38:42.It is transfer deadline day, and plenty of players on the move before

:38:43. > :38:47.tonight's deadline. Manchester City's striker Wilfried Bony has

:38:48. > :38:56.said he is looking forward to an exciting new challenge, he is in

:38:57. > :38:58.talks with Stoke over a transfer. He cost ?25 million in 2016. Another

:38:59. > :39:02.player out the door at the Etihad will be Joe Hart, the England

:39:03. > :39:14.goalkeeper out-of-favour under Pep Guardiola will complete his transfer

:39:15. > :39:17.to Torino. Jack Wilshire is going out on loan from Arsenal, Crystal

:39:18. > :39:25.Palace and Bournemouth the favourites to sign him. The total is

:39:26. > :39:27.now over ?1 billion. England posted the highest ever

:39:28. > :39:33.one-day international total yesterday to secure a series victory

:39:34. > :39:37.over Pakistan. Out of the eight Brits at the US Open tennis, five

:39:38. > :39:40.are now through to the second round at Flushing Meadows, with Andy

:39:41. > :39:46.Murray, Naomi Brodie and Dan Evans all progressing on the second day in

:39:47. > :39:49.New York. I am off to put a suit on, and I will see you on the BBC News

:39:50. > :39:53.Channel at 11.15! Thank you.

:39:54. > :39:55.One of so-called Islamic State's snenior

:39:56. > :40:08.Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, who led IS's propaganda campaign,

:40:09. > :40:15.His death was confirmed by US media. Frank Gardner is here. Tell us more

:40:16. > :40:20.about him. He is more than just a senior commander. He is probably the

:40:21. > :40:28.second most high-profile figure in so-called Islamic State, second only

:40:29. > :40:32.to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. This is someone who has been sending a

:40:33. > :40:35.stream of vitriol out onto the Internet, encouraging people to

:40:36. > :40:39.carry out so-called lone wolf attacks, telling people to attack

:40:40. > :40:47.pretty much all the enemies of IS, which ranges from Bangladesh to

:40:48. > :40:50.Turkey to Orlando to Nice. He called for a whole lot of intensification

:40:51. > :40:57.of attacks jeering Ramadan, and sure enough, it was the bloodiest Ramadan

:40:58. > :41:00.in recent history. This is someone who was considered extremely

:41:01. > :41:06.dangerous, he was a senior planner and somebody who was very good at

:41:07. > :41:09.organising groups of people to come together and then form attack plans

:41:10. > :41:12.overseas. So it is a loss for them. They will replace him, but he was

:41:13. > :41:22.one of the original founding members of so-called IS when it was Islamic

:41:23. > :41:29.State in Iraq. He is a Syrian, and it is not quite clear how he died,

:41:30. > :41:34.because IS say he was killed whilst surveying operations in Aleppo

:41:35. > :41:37.province, and the Americans say they targeted him on Tuesday, but they

:41:38. > :41:41.haven't confirmed that they killed him necessarily in an air strike.

:41:42. > :41:46.You say he will be replaced. How significant you think this killing

:41:47. > :41:50.is? It is significant, he will be replaced by somebody you and I have

:41:51. > :41:56.never heard of, who in turn will get killed in an air strike or a battle

:41:57. > :42:00.with a rival group, but they are running out of people with the kind

:42:01. > :42:08.of experience that this man had. He had a rare blend of oratory and

:42:09. > :42:13.oratorical skills and military strategic planning. Look what

:42:14. > :42:16.happened to Al-Qaeda after Osama bin Laden was killed in 2011. Who is the

:42:17. > :42:21.leader today? I challenge you to name him. I am not trying to test

:42:22. > :42:26.you, the point is most people don't know who he is. Al-Qaeda has

:42:27. > :42:33.haemorrhaged support as IS has taken over from them because the guy has

:42:34. > :42:36.no charisma. This guy had a certain amount of charisma among troubled

:42:37. > :42:40.people, and he encouraged people to do very bad things and kill innocent

:42:41. > :42:45.people, so his departure from the scene has made the world slightly

:42:46. > :42:49.safer place. Thank you, Frank. As we have been hearing, Theresa May is

:42:50. > :42:54.sharing a brainstorming summit on how to negotiate the UK's exit from

:42:55. > :43:01.EU at Chequers, her country resident. Glenn Campbell is there.

:43:02. > :43:07.What are they aiming to do, and is it likely? Brexit is not the only

:43:08. > :43:12.issue, but it is top of the Government's agenda, as Cabinet

:43:13. > :43:16.meets here at Chequers for the first time since Parliament broke up for

:43:17. > :43:20.the summer break. And here we are, more than two months on from the

:43:21. > :43:25.vote to leave the European Union, and what is striking, Joanna, is how

:43:26. > :43:28.little we actually know about what Brexit means. Theresa May has

:43:29. > :43:33.repeatedly used the catchphrase Brexit means Brexit, in that she

:43:34. > :43:40.thinks there should be no attempt to try and remain inside the EU, no

:43:41. > :43:49.attempt to try to rejoin it by the back door, no second referendum, but

:43:50. > :43:52.beyond that, no attempt to set out in any detail what future

:43:53. > :43:55.relationship with the EU she is setting out the UK. Their husband

:43:56. > :44:02.something approaching a summer of silence. -- there has been something

:44:03. > :44:05.approaching a summer of silence. And they have gone to the table with the

:44:06. > :44:10.aim of coming up with a collective view. How likely is it that that

:44:11. > :44:15.will be achieved? I don't think that will be particularly easy. Obviously

:44:16. > :44:19.the referendum was divisive, the Cabinet has about a third of its

:44:20. > :44:26.members who favoured a cat might leave vote, and two thirds who

:44:27. > :44:32.backed the Remain campaign. Theresa May sent away her ministers and

:44:33. > :44:35.tasked with looking at what opportunities Brexit might bring in

:44:36. > :44:40.their area of responsibility, so today is a chance for them to report

:44:41. > :44:45.back to the wider Cabinet, and it has also said that the new

:44:46. > :44:48.Department for exiting the European Union under David Davis has been

:44:49. > :44:53.drawing up an options paper which could also form an important part of

:44:54. > :44:57.those discussions, but there are some big decisions for them to take,

:44:58. > :45:04.such as should the UK seek to remain a full member of the EU single

:45:05. > :45:08.market, that massive market of 500 million consumers? If it does, it is

:45:09. > :45:12.likely that the UK would have to continue contributing to the EU

:45:13. > :45:16.budget, and would have to continue to accept the free movement of

:45:17. > :45:23.people. Areas that may be unacceptable to some of those who

:45:24. > :45:27.campaigned hard for a Leave vote. Those and other issues need to be

:45:28. > :45:31.sorted out before the UK will be in a position to start to negotiate its

:45:32. > :45:35.exit from the EU by triggering so-called Article 50, and Theresa

:45:36. > :45:37.May has made clear she won't be in a position to do that before the end

:45:38. > :45:50.of this year. Thoughts of you getting in touch on

:45:51. > :45:55.our Lariam report, the comments by the former general of the army that

:45:56. > :46:00.he would not take Lariam after his late son to get in the late 1990s.

:46:01. > :46:10.Bill said, our GP happily prescribed Lariam, after two days of nausea, we

:46:11. > :46:16.stopped using it, we preferred to run the risk of malaria. Michael has

:46:17. > :46:19.said, it has saved my life on two occasions. Sharon has said my

:46:20. > :46:25.husband is one of these fallen men who dedicated his life for 33 years,

:46:26. > :46:29.and it finished at me in a tour to Sierra Leone and the gift of

:46:30. > :46:38.epilepsy. Flown home and left alone, no medical contact all concerned.

:46:39. > :46:45.Medical notes went missing. Brian e-mailed. In 1999, I was serving on

:46:46. > :46:52.secondment in Uganda. Lariam Was the drug of choice for malarial

:46:53. > :46:56.protection. We were offered an alternative. This did not prevent

:46:57. > :47:01.malaria but cure it as you were bitten because you had a large dose

:47:02. > :47:06.of antibiotic in your system. Abdullah says, could this affects to

:47:07. > :47:11.ordinary citizens? I now know its effects, I have been suffering from

:47:12. > :47:16.anxiety, nightmares and changes in my behaviour including being

:47:17. > :47:20.frightened to travel by air. Another tweet, no antimalarial drug is free

:47:21. > :47:22.from side effects but it has an exhausted list of almost every side

:47:23. > :47:24.effect, that is not good. Some children are starting

:47:25. > :47:27.to worry about body image at a surprisingly young age,

:47:28. > :47:31.according to a new study. Research from a charity,

:47:32. > :47:35.which works with nursery school-age children suggests that

:47:36. > :47:38.children as young as three

:47:39. > :47:40.will sometimes refer to their 'fat tummies',

:47:41. > :47:42.with the problem getting more acute In the studio are Dr

:47:43. > :47:45.Jacqueline Harding from the Professional Association

:47:46. > :47:48.for Childcare and Early Years, the charity which carried out

:47:49. > :47:50.the study and Kayleigh Hollingsworth, who's

:47:51. > :48:02.an Early Years Practitioner running Thank you for joining us.

:48:03. > :48:06.Jacqueline, kids as young as three? There is a wealth of evidence and

:48:07. > :48:10.research for older children around this. Around self-image,

:48:11. > :48:14.self-esteem, what they are thinking of themselves. This is fairly new,

:48:15. > :48:21.to be looking at such young children. This is the age where the

:48:22. > :48:25.foundations for who you are again. It is really significant. And

:48:26. > :48:28.important that we look at this mental processing that these little

:48:29. > :48:34.ones are having around their body image. Because it has emotional

:48:35. > :48:38.significance. Do you really see examples of kids as young as three

:48:39. > :48:44.expressing anxiety around their bodies. I am sad to say we are

:48:45. > :48:50.picking up now. Give us some examples of what they have said.

:48:51. > :48:56.Things around what they are looking at, whether they should be wearing

:48:57. > :49:02.those shoes, does this look right with my dress, are you sure? They

:49:03. > :49:06.are expressing concern over their hair, their tummies, whether they

:49:07. > :49:07.are fat, whether they are ugly, it is quite disturbing, such a young

:49:08. > :49:19.age. You work in a nursery, is this

:49:20. > :49:24.something you've ever come across? Yes. It's becoming more and more

:49:25. > :49:29.noticeable. I've been in early years for 11 years now. The example we

:49:30. > :49:33.gave about fat tummies, there are children that are aware of their

:49:34. > :49:36.parents trying to lose weight. Even though the parents aren't saying

:49:37. > :49:42.anything negative about the child, they are picking up on... "You know,

:49:43. > :49:46.I can't eat that, because I have a flat tummy or that will make me

:49:47. > :49:50.fat". You have heard children as young as three saying that? Yes,

:49:51. > :49:55.over the whole of my career, not just now. I have worked in

:49:56. > :49:59.nurseries, I've been a nanny, I've been in schools. Plenty of other

:50:00. > :50:03.examples, even what Jacqueline was saying with shoes, they cannot get

:50:04. > :50:08.their shoes wet, they can't wear them because they are Princess

:50:09. > :50:12.shoes. You blame the parents? Not at all. That is why we are doing the

:50:13. > :50:13.research, because we are here to educate everyone, practitioners as

:50:14. > :50:21.well. Where are they getting the ideas from, Breese -- preschool

:50:22. > :50:28.kids. Multifaceted. If we look at some animation is why it is all just

:50:29. > :50:32.too perfect, parents taking selfies, we need to be careful, the sort of

:50:33. > :50:37.things we are saying around young children because they may be looking

:50:38. > :50:41.at a book or playing with an iPhone or what ever, but they are really

:50:42. > :50:46.picking up on the messages around them. If parents and adults can be a

:50:47. > :50:51.bit careful about what they are saying about themselves. For

:50:52. > :50:55.example, if you think your eyes are too closely sets together or your

:50:56. > :51:01.nose isn't the right shape, it is the thing not to say around your

:51:02. > :51:05.child. Isn't it obvious? It is obvious but because I have seen it

:51:06. > :51:10.so many times, because they are half the size, we assume they have half

:51:11. > :51:14.the hearing. They are just absorbing everything going on around them.

:51:15. > :51:20.What are your concerns about the impact? Don't we want a society

:51:21. > :51:27.where we value, much more, what's on the inside? For example,

:51:28. > :51:33.helpfulness, kindness. Creativity. That's brilliant, I saw you solve

:51:34. > :51:38.that problem, rather than on firming and praising the outward appearance.

:51:39. > :51:43.Surely parents are doing that as well? We all try our best, but

:51:44. > :51:47.sometimes we are just not aware that being a role model, we need to be

:51:48. > :51:53.very careful about what we say around children. They are all ears

:51:54. > :51:58.when it comes to the kind of messages we are saying about

:51:59. > :52:01.ourselves. What do you think about that?

:52:02. > :52:08.I totally agree, we are all guilty of it even me, I am a qualified

:52:09. > :52:12.early years teacher. Things slip out that you don't realise. If they are

:52:13. > :52:16.wearing a new dress, you say, that dress is beautiful, but we should

:52:17. > :52:21.praise the child for what they can do. It is not all about body image.

:52:22. > :52:25.You can tell a child they look lovely, can't you? Of course you

:52:26. > :52:30.can, I am not saying that but it is getting to the point, when I took

:52:31. > :52:33.part in the study, I am 29 years old but I still hate wearing my glasses

:52:34. > :52:39.because children picked up that I wore glasses when I was younger. It

:52:40. > :52:44.is as simple as that, when you are three, four, five, they pick

:52:45. > :52:48.everything up, they are sponges. It is the developmental process that

:52:49. > :52:52.needs to be understood. It is how we build a view of who we are. We don't

:52:53. > :52:57.suddenly arrive as a teenager and then decide about body image, it

:52:58. > :53:01.starts at a very early age. As Caley said, growing up, it was the kids

:53:02. > :53:06.talking about your glasses. -- Kayleigh. That can't be policed,

:53:07. > :53:11.children will say what they say. Adults can think more carefully.

:53:12. > :53:16.Absolutely. It is around protective factors, what can we do to make our

:53:17. > :53:22.children a bit more resilient? A bit more able to combat things, when

:53:23. > :53:27.they happen. That's what I mean about putting in some sort of

:53:28. > :53:31.inoculation. And anaesthetic. How do you do that? Be very careful of the

:53:32. > :53:36.words that we use and the values we are placing around what is going on

:53:37. > :53:39.in the inside, who we are as people. Also to point out presumably that

:53:40. > :53:44.things will be said and how to shake it off. Of course. Have that

:53:45. > :53:48.conversation. Little ones in an age appropriate way, you can describe to

:53:49. > :54:00.them how photographs are manipulated, to look better

:54:01. > :54:03.and to be enhanced. That isn't real life. They are onto that,

:54:04. > :54:06.straightaway, as you explain that, I get it, they say. Life isn't as

:54:07. > :54:08.perfect as it might seem. They can take credit for understanding a lot

:54:09. > :54:12.more. The earlier we start with giving this kind of protective

:54:13. > :54:16.factors that value the things that will help them with later academic

:54:17. > :54:23.success, how you feel about yourself is a great predictor to academic

:54:24. > :54:27.success as well. Comments from people watching, Helen has tweeted,

:54:28. > :54:32.we need to be careful from discouraging kids from thinking

:54:33. > :54:35.about body image at all. Pamper parties are a real problem. Darren

:54:36. > :54:39.has e-mailed it is normal for a child at this age to become aware of

:54:40. > :54:43.the differences between themselves and others as part of understanding

:54:44. > :54:51.the world. To suggest it is an image of body image projects issues onto

:54:52. > :54:57.the children. Sally has said, my little girl who is four often refers

:54:58. > :55:00.to herself as having a big tummy. She has always commented on big

:55:01. > :55:05.tummies and I just think she wants to be the same. Of course, there are

:55:06. > :55:09.going to be different reasons. You have to know the child. Thank you

:55:10. > :55:11.very much. We are out of time but thank you. Thank you for your

:55:12. > :55:13.comments. The US singer Chris Brown has been

:55:14. > :55:15.arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon,

:55:16. > :55:18.after a woman told police he had After the allegations emerged,

:55:19. > :55:21.Los Angeles officers surrounded Brown's mansion,

:55:22. > :55:23.in a stand-off that It's thought police had to wait

:55:24. > :55:26.for a judge to approve a warrant before going

:55:27. > :55:30.inside to search for a weapon. A woman known as Baylee Curran told

:55:31. > :55:33.the LA Times that Mr Brown had pointed the gun at her face

:55:34. > :55:35.after she admired his Around three o'clock this morning,

:55:36. > :55:44.officers responded to a radio call The incident involved

:55:45. > :55:50.the residence of Mr Chris Brown, where officers responded and met

:55:51. > :55:53.with the person requiring Chris Brown is a Grammy

:55:54. > :56:03.award winning singer, who's had number one

:56:04. > :56:06.singles in the US and UK, In 2009, he assaulted fellow

:56:07. > :56:10.pop-star Rihanna, who was his With me now is Newsbeat's music

:56:11. > :56:29.reporter, Steve Holden. What is the latest? He was taken

:56:30. > :56:32.into custody after this 14 hour stand-off and after his lawyer

:56:33. > :56:37.arrived, sorted him out, they raised enough money for bail. He is out on

:56:38. > :56:44.bail, but he has yet to be charged, whether he had a gun or not. What's

:56:45. > :56:48.interesting, while the stand-off was happening, he has posted several

:56:49. > :56:52.videos on Instagram of him talking into his phone, saying he had been

:56:53. > :56:56.treated unfairly, that he wasn't coming out until a search warrant

:56:57. > :57:03.had been issued. Generally, very angry, very sweary, lots of bad

:57:04. > :57:04.language. We have pulled together a few snippets of what we can show

:57:05. > :57:06.you. I have barricaded

:57:07. > :57:15.myself in my house. I'mma barricadee

:57:16. > :57:17.myself in the Palac. But at the same time,

:57:18. > :57:22.when I call the police, for stalker people that

:57:23. > :57:24.are endangering my life, What I do care about is y'all

:57:25. > :57:30.defacing my name as a person I am a father, I am one

:57:31. > :57:42.of the best entertainers out the first time he has been in

:57:43. > :57:46.trouble, how will it affect him going forward? -- this isn't the

:57:47. > :57:49.first. It has affected his ability to tour in other countries because

:57:50. > :57:53.he has been refused entry to countries like Australia and New

:57:54. > :57:58.Zealand. He has had TV appearances cancelled in America and the UK. He

:57:59. > :58:01.hasn't really had a hit single for a number of years. Radio aren't

:58:02. > :58:12.playing him as much. Going forward, this isn't going to help his case

:58:13. > :58:15.very much. Already, he is more known as Chris Brown, the person who has

:58:16. > :58:17.constantly been in trouble with the police, rather than Chris Brown, the

:58:18. > :58:19.singer. I am sure he would agree to disagree but we will see. Thank you.

:58:20. > :58:31.I will see you at the same time, tomorrow.

:58:32. > :58:34.I don't quite know what I'm going to get round the corner.

:58:35. > :58:38.Nadiya's journey across Bangladesh to explore her roots continues.

:58:39. > :58:42.I cannot believe where I am right now.