02/09/2016

:00:08. > :00:17.It's one year since the shocking image of three-year-old Syria

:00:18. > :00:21.refugee Aylan Kurdi, who drowned trying to cross to

:00:22. > :00:23.Europe, knifed through the world's conscience and brought a clamour

:00:24. > :00:31.His father thinks that momentum has been lost.

:00:32. > :00:39.TRANSLATION: The tragedy at first made life much easier for poor

:00:40. > :00:43.refugees. But after a while by God almighty there was nothing left,

:00:44. > :00:50.nobody remembered Aylan, he had been forgotten, not even a whisper.

:00:51. > :00:52.We'll speak to the actress Juliet Stevenson who's among

:00:53. > :00:55.campaigners who want the UK to allow in hundreds more refugee children

:00:56. > :00:59.Also today, patient groups warn of a catastrophic impact on safety

:01:00. > :01:02.over junior doctors plans for a wave of strike action through the rest

:01:03. > :01:10.And, she devoted her life to helping the sick and poor,

:01:11. > :01:13.the legacy of the remarkable nun Mother Teresa who becomes

:01:14. > :01:18.We'll be talking to those who knew her and a critic.

:01:19. > :01:32.We're live until 11.00am this morning.

:01:33. > :01:38.Lots coming up, have you an operation or procedure you fear

:01:39. > :01:42.could be cancelled with the strike, do you work in the NHS and what do

:01:43. > :01:49.you think of the planned walk out? Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:50. > :01:53.we're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag Victoria live

:01:54. > :01:56.and if you text you will be charged Our top story today,

:01:57. > :02:00.some of the country's most senior medical leaders have condemned

:02:01. > :02:01.the series of strikes planned by junior doctors

:02:02. > :02:04.in England as the row over A week-long walkout this month

:02:05. > :02:07.will be followed by three more five-day strikes in October,

:02:08. > :02:09.November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal College

:02:10. > :02:12.says the proposed action is disproportionate,

:02:13. > :02:15.as Keith Doyle reports. It's the worst industrial relations

:02:16. > :02:20.dispute in the history of the NHS. With the BMA's announcement

:02:21. > :02:22.of five-day strikes each month to the end of this year,

:02:23. > :02:30.this is a rapidly escalating row. The strikes will now stretch

:02:31. > :02:32.from 8am to 5pm from 12th Then in October from 5th to 7th

:02:33. > :02:44.and the 10th to the 11th. Junior doctors will then walk out

:02:45. > :02:48.again from 14th to 18th of November and from the 5th

:02:49. > :02:50.to the 9th of December. The announcement came just a few

:02:51. > :02:53.hours after Theresa May made clear she supports the contract

:02:54. > :02:55.the government is imposing She accused the BMA of playing

:02:56. > :03:00.politics and failing And now another significant

:03:01. > :03:06.intervention from the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges,

:03:07. > :03:08.made up of leaders of It says it is disappointed

:03:09. > :03:13.at the prospect of further sustained industrial action at a time when

:03:14. > :03:21.the NHS is under extreme pressure. While it acknowledged

:03:22. > :03:23.there were genuine concerns among doctors, it says the proposed

:03:24. > :03:25.strikes are not proportionate and will cause real problems

:03:26. > :03:29.for patients and the profession. The BMA says the government

:03:30. > :03:33.could stop the strikes by calling off the imposition of the contract,

:03:34. > :03:37.which is due to begin in October. It says the contract

:03:38. > :03:43.is still not fair for all. The NHS has scant resources to meet

:03:44. > :03:46.this winter's increased demand. This year, to add to seasonal

:03:47. > :03:48.illness and injury, it now faces the prospect of crippling

:03:49. > :03:50.strike action also. He is the chief

:03:51. > :03:57.executive of National Voices which represents charities

:03:58. > :04:10.that support patients. How concerned are you about these

:04:11. > :04:14.new strikes announced? Good morning. Well, our job is to look at things

:04:15. > :04:19.from the point of view of patients and we are concerned about this huge

:04:20. > :04:23.escalation in the industrial dispute and frustrated, given that a deal

:04:24. > :04:27.was very close to being settled earlier in the summer. There is no

:04:28. > :04:30.end in sight to these strikes. They will have an impact on patients. We

:04:31. > :04:36.can't be sure exactly what the impact will be because it depends on

:04:37. > :04:40.how well the NHS contingency planning is. But we are concerned

:04:41. > :04:43.and we would like doctors to call off the strike and both sides to get

:04:44. > :04:49.back around the negotiating table. When you are talking about impacts,

:04:50. > :04:53.you don't know how much of an impact but presumably we are talking about

:04:54. > :04:59.operations and routine procedures delayed? Operations will be

:05:00. > :05:02.cancelled, appointments postponed, procedures postponed: What we can't

:05:03. > :05:06.be sure about is the level of disruption. In the previous

:05:07. > :05:09.stoppages when junior doctors walked out the rest of their colleagues,

:05:10. > :05:13.including senior consultants and nurses and the rest of the

:05:14. > :05:17.healthcare staff, rallied around in an effective way so disruption was

:05:18. > :05:21.less than the worst case scenario that people had feared. So, we are

:05:22. > :05:28.in slightly unchartered territory. It depends on how many doctors walk

:05:29. > :05:32.out and what happens locally and how well hospital trusts plan around the

:05:33. > :05:35.strike. Undoubtedly we can't be sure about the numbers but overall the

:05:36. > :05:40.impact will be delay and disruption and cancellation of all kinds of

:05:41. > :05:44.things and that will cause uncertainty and delay and disruption

:05:45. > :05:47.and inconvenience to patients and their families. So, at a time when

:05:48. > :05:51.the NHS is struggling just to get through a normal day, let alone days

:05:52. > :05:55.when there are strikes. We don't think this is the best way to

:05:56. > :05:59.resolve the dispute. If you are at home, you have a letter, you are

:06:00. > :06:03.expecting a routine operation or a procedure to take place what should

:06:04. > :06:08.you do now? Should you be contacting the NHS or will people get in touch

:06:09. > :06:12.with you? Well, people should get in touch with patients but I think if

:06:13. > :06:17.anybody is anxious and uncertain they probably should feel empowered

:06:18. > :06:20.to get in touch themselves with the hospital, the doctors to find out

:06:21. > :06:24.what the state of play is. I fear that for many people there will be a

:06:25. > :06:28.degree of uncertainty, possibly right up until the last minute as

:06:29. > :06:31.the hospitals try and plan around the strike and work out how many

:06:32. > :06:35.people are going to be on strike. So get in touch and try and get

:06:36. > :06:39.clarity. Often in these situations the worst thing for people is

:06:40. > :06:43.uncertainty and anxiety around that, particularly if they've had to make

:06:44. > :06:47.big domestic arrangements to work around the need to go into hospital

:06:48. > :06:52.and to get relatives and friends involved in helping out. So it's

:06:53. > :06:55.going to be disruptive. If people are concerned they should be in

:06:56. > :06:59.touch with their local NHS to find out how it's going to affect them.

:07:00. > :07:03.Thank you. And if you are going to be affected by that and you are

:07:04. > :07:07.expecting a operation or appointment, do get in touch.

:07:08. > :07:09.Ben Brown is in the BBC newsroom with a summary

:07:10. > :07:13.Campaigners say they've identified almost 400 children living

:07:14. > :07:15.in the Calais jungle camp who are eligible to be

:07:16. > :07:31.They're making the call on the death of the Syrian child Aylan Kurdi.

:07:32. > :07:35.They are the most vulnerable in the migrant crisis,

:07:36. > :07:37.children enduring the hardest of journeys, many doing so alone.

:07:38. > :07:39.Some have ended up here, the so-called Jungle

:07:40. > :07:43.Of the 7,000 refugees living in the camp, Citizen UK says 800

:07:44. > :07:48.Almost half, it says, are eligible to move to Britain.

:07:49. > :07:53.Some because they have family already in the UK, others

:07:54. > :07:57.because of new immigration rules called the Dubs amendment designed

:07:58. > :08:01.Later today, faith leaders, council chiefs and celebrities

:08:02. > :08:04.will hand a list of names to the Home Office with a call

:08:05. > :08:10.We're saying to the government, we are prepared to help you.

:08:11. > :08:12.We're not protesting you haven't done enough, although you haven't,

:08:13. > :08:23.we are saying to our own government that it's not that we're blaming

:08:24. > :08:27.What we are saying is that we want to help you if you can't do this

:08:28. > :08:30.The situation in Calais is very much on Amber Rudd's agenda.

:08:31. > :08:33.The Home Secretary earlier this week promising to step up

:08:34. > :08:34.moves to improve things after meeting her

:08:35. > :08:38.The Home Office says it's already agreed to take

:08:39. > :08:46.But they point out they need local authorities to agree to care

:08:47. > :08:47.for children once they're in Britain.

:08:48. > :08:54.A 23-year-old man has been charged in connection with the deaths

:08:55. > :08:57.of a boy and his aunt, who were hit by a car being chased

:08:58. > :08:59.by police in south-east London on Wednesday.

:09:00. > :09:02.Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper were walking along a road

:09:03. > :09:07.Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode, is due to appear before

:09:08. > :09:09.Bromley Magistrates today to face two counts of death

:09:10. > :09:18.A state of emergency has been declared in Florida

:09:19. > :09:25.Schools and government offices have been closed and thousands

:09:26. > :09:33.It's the first hurricane to hit Florida in 11 years.

:09:34. > :09:35.Our North America correspondent, Laura Bicker reports

:09:36. > :09:38.The eye of Hurricane Hermeen has hit the North West

:09:39. > :09:46.They are saying in places around 80 mph winds.

:09:47. > :09:50.As you can see, one of the things they are worried about is the heavy

:09:51. > :09:52.rain with the heavy winds coupled with a high tide.

:09:53. > :09:55.We are 50 miles away from the Gulf Coast and we can

:09:56. > :10:00.already see the strengthening winds and this heavy rain.

:10:01. > :10:08.It could be about eight feet of water hitting the coast

:10:09. > :10:12.and they are worried about coastal flooding.

:10:13. > :10:15.People living along those areas have been warned to either stay indoors

:10:16. > :10:22.There are around 20 shelters set up to make sure people have

:10:23. > :10:36.Around 8,000 members of the National Guard,

:10:37. > :10:41.The fear is there will be in need of people to try and clear up

:10:42. > :10:45.The governor Rick Scott has declared a state of emergency and he also

:10:46. > :10:47.says this is a potentially life-threatening storm.

:10:48. > :10:54.People are being warned not to go out and about because they say that

:10:55. > :10:56.perhaps they can fix your property but they can't go out

:10:57. > :11:02.The last time a hurricane hit the coast of Florida was in 2005,

:11:03. > :11:13.And it was around $24 billion worth of damage.

:11:14. > :11:16.Already tens of thousands of homes have lost power in that

:11:17. > :11:21.People have their fingers crossed that in the next two

:11:22. > :11:24.hours as the storm passes through the damage will not be

:11:25. > :11:34.A man has been charged with murder after the death of a banker

:11:35. > :11:37.feared to have been killed by a single punch.

:11:38. > :11:40.Oliver Dearlove died after allegedly being hit by a man while waiting

:11:41. > :11:43.for a taxi on a night out in Blackheath in south-east

:11:44. > :11:47.A post-mortem examination gave the provisional cause

:11:48. > :11:53.Melania Trump, the wife of the Republican presidential

:11:54. > :11:56.candidate Donald Trump, is suing the Daily Mail online

:11:57. > :11:58.for libel saying the newspaper alleged that she was an escort

:11:59. > :12:13.Her lawyer says such claims are 100% false.

:12:14. > :12:15.The Mail Online has retracted any suggestion the

:12:16. > :12:18.A study of the Zika virus spread says more than two

:12:19. > :12:21.and a half billion people live in areas that may be

:12:22. > :12:29.Africa and Asia are said to be most at risk.

:12:30. > :12:33.Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will today launch a fresh

:12:34. > :12:36.attempt to convince Scots to back independence, when she addresses SNP

:12:37. > :12:42.She'll urge them to start a national conversation about how the party

:12:43. > :12:45.can strengthen its case for an independent Scotland

:12:46. > :12:51.in the wake of the UK's vote to leave the European Union.

:12:52. > :12:54.New pictures have emerged of the moment a rocket belonging

:12:55. > :12:59.to the private company Space X exploded on its launch pad.

:13:00. > :13:03.The blast happened yesterday at Cape Canaveral in

:13:04. > :13:06.It shook buildings several kilometres away but SpaceX

:13:07. > :13:14.The action movie star Jackie Chan is getting an honorary Oscar

:13:15. > :13:15.for his extraordinary achievements in film.

:13:16. > :13:18.Chan, who's 62, has starred in dozens of martial arts films

:13:19. > :13:21.He went on to huge international success with hits including

:13:22. > :13:26.the Rush Hour franchise, Shanghai Noon, The Karate Kid, and

:13:27. > :13:32.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:13:33. > :13:38.Let's get the sport now, and Will Perry is at

:13:39. > :13:47.More success for Britain's men at the US Open in New York, I hear,

:13:48. > :13:49.but Andy Murray found it tricky to play under the roof there.

:13:50. > :13:55.This is interesting. If you haven't seen the scores as it were, Andy

:13:56. > :14:01.Murray and Dan Evans into the third round of the US Open, the first time

:14:02. > :14:07.since 1968 they've had three Brits into that stage of the US Open.

:14:08. > :14:10.Murray not happy because he was playing yesterday and the scoreline

:14:11. > :14:19.was comfortable in the end. It was under the new roof at the Arthur

:14:20. > :14:27.Ashe stadium. $150 million for that roof. It was raining torrentialally

:14:28. > :14:32.yesterday and at times Murray said it was like wearing headphones, he

:14:33. > :14:35.couldn't hear the ball. It's interesting to think at that level

:14:36. > :14:43.you need to news that sense to have your full game. It didn't seem to

:14:44. > :14:50.bother him too much. He was a winner. Dan Evans won in four sets

:14:51. > :14:59.to reach the third round for the first time in three years and Evans

:15:00. > :15:04.will take on the Swiss Stan Wawrinka. Let's talk cricket.

:15:05. > :15:07.England doing so well in the one-day series against Pakistan. Explain why

:15:08. > :15:11.it's different to the Test series, why do they struggle in Test series?

:15:12. > :15:15.You have a different set of players. There are a few that play Test and

:15:16. > :15:20.one-day but there is a different set that come in for the one-day. This

:15:21. > :15:25.is a massive turnaround for this team who were struggling a few years

:15:26. > :15:32.ago. Trevor Bayliss took over after the embarrassing World Cup in 2015

:15:33. > :15:34.and Eoin Morgan, the captain, has had a turnaround, as well. He was

:15:35. > :15:44.criticised last year and asked to step down by sections of the media

:15:45. > :15:53.and ex-players. People in there like Morgan, Hales, they're breaking

:15:54. > :15:59.records. Chris Woakes. They set a highest one-day score of all time.

:16:00. > :16:04.Yesterday comfortable, a 4-0 they lead that series with one to play.

:16:05. > :16:08.They've the champions trophy in 2017 which is in England and Wales, as is

:16:09. > :16:23.the ICC World Cup in 2019. There was a good feeling around the

:16:24. > :16:30.camp at the moment with Trevor Bayliss. I can see Laura Muir is

:16:31. > :16:33.done so well. Presumably she is now focusing on the World Championships?

:16:34. > :16:38.Yes, she won that Diamond league title last well in zero finishing

:16:39. > :16:44.second and interestingly, the woman she beat the title, from Kenya, she

:16:45. > :16:49.won gold at the Olympics and Laura Muir finished seventh, but she's 23,

:16:50. > :16:53.still a huge career ahead of her and she will go into those World

:16:54. > :17:01.Championships in London next year in a really, really good place. Thank

:17:02. > :17:06.you. Speak to you in half an hour. People are getting in touch with us.

:17:07. > :17:11.We had a text message from Phil, save the NHS by fide strikes? Are

:17:12. > :17:15.they mad? They are playing politics with people's lives. Carol says, no

:17:16. > :17:18.one knows how hard it is for junior doctors unless you've worked with

:17:19. > :17:22.them. I'm a retired nurse and I support the junior doctors. Paul

:17:23. > :17:26.e-mailed to say, increasingly the strike will be a PR battle for the

:17:27. > :17:29.support of public opinion and this is what they've always worried

:17:30. > :17:33.about, as long as the strike goes on, will they lose public opinion?

:17:34. > :17:38.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:17:39. > :17:41.They were the images that caused global headlines but one year

:17:42. > :17:44.on from the death of Alan Kurdi, how much change has there been

:17:45. > :17:48.Alan was the three year old Syrian child, pictured faced down

:17:49. > :17:51.in the sand on a Turkish beach, after the boat he and his family

:17:52. > :17:55.were in sank as they tried to reach Greece, fleeing civil war in Syria.

:17:56. > :17:58.Many of you will remember the image we're about to show,

:17:59. > :18:01.it is particularly distressing and if you have small children

:18:02. > :18:12.At the time it was this photo of Alan's lifeless body lying face

:18:13. > :18:14.down on the beach, that made the world focus

:18:15. > :18:21.The then Prime Minister David Cameron promised to give sanctuary

:18:22. > :18:24.to 20,000 Syrian refugees, then later said the UK would become

:18:25. > :18:31.But what has happened to that pledge, now Theresa May

:18:32. > :18:35.Alan's Kurdi's father, who survived the disaster,

:18:36. > :18:42.has been speaking to the the BBC's Fergal Keane.

:18:43. > :18:46.When I spoke to you a year ago you hoped the death of your children

:18:47. > :18:49.might change the way the world treats refugees.

:18:50. > :18:57.Are you disappointed by what has happened since?

:18:58. > :19:00.TRANSLATION: By God Almighty at first the presidents were excited

:19:01. > :19:11.What are the memories of the boys that come back to you?

:19:12. > :19:14.TRANSLATION: I swear by God Almighty this morning and every

:19:15. > :19:21.Today I felt they were visiting me and hugging me.

:19:22. > :19:23.It is important to remember them as individuals.

:19:24. > :19:30.And not just statistics in the refugee tragedy.

:19:31. > :19:33.TRANSLATION: The tragedy at first made life much easier for poor

:19:34. > :19:36.refugees but after a while, by God Almighty, there

:19:37. > :19:46.By the way there is something I have to tell you, a lot of people

:19:47. > :19:56.On this anniversary what is your message to the leaders of Europe?

:19:57. > :20:03.To those who can help bring this refugee crisis to an end.

:20:04. > :20:04.TRANSLATION: The question is for them to help

:20:05. > :20:09.the needy refugees but the situation is very dire.

:20:10. > :20:23.I swear by God Almighty it makes you cry.

:20:24. > :20:28.In a moment we'll speak to Juliet Stevenson and we'll talk about the

:20:29. > :20:31.campaign she's been involved with to get more children over to the UK and

:20:32. > :20:37.she's even visited the Calais jungle, as it's known. We are going

:20:38. > :20:41.to cross over now to hear from Boris Johnson. The Foreign Secretary is

:20:42. > :20:46.about to meet EU foreign ministers, but he is stopping off in Austria on

:20:47. > :20:53.the way and is speaking in Vienna. Whatever our relationship with the

:20:54. > :20:57.European Union, I was very clear and the minister also understands

:20:58. > :21:05.clearly, we are not leaving Europe. We are leaving the European Union.

:21:06. > :21:08.We do want a strong European Union but we also want a strong united

:21:09. > :21:14.kingdom and I think we share a vision for a strong, a new European

:21:15. > :21:19.partnership between the UK and the European Union and ever closer

:21:20. > :21:27.relations with Britain and Austria. I'm the proud possessor of a cowbell

:21:28. > :21:33.given to me by Topol Meyer, I'm proud to say, because they built a

:21:34. > :21:40.wonderful cable car in London with European Union funds. It was an

:21:41. > :21:44.Austrian investment in London, and we are very, very grateful for that

:21:45. > :21:48.I also want to take the chance to congratulate the Minister on his

:21:49. > :21:55.30th birthday. Many happy returns. Thank you very much, everybody. That

:21:56. > :21:59.was Boris Johnson speaking in Vienna talking more about cowbells and 30th

:22:00. > :22:02.birthday celebrations than Brexit, that he will be meeting EU foreign

:22:03. > :22:06.ministers later on today and hopefully we will get more on that

:22:07. > :22:09.later but Juliet Stevenson, the actors and campaign is with me to

:22:10. > :22:18.talk about those dreadful images we all saw a year ago of Alan Kurdi.

:22:19. > :22:23.It's difficult to not look at those pictures and not be moved but you

:22:24. > :22:26.think it changed anything? We heard it's a cliche, a game changer, it's

:22:27. > :22:30.going to change the way we deal with a migrant crisis. I think it did for

:22:31. > :22:35.a while. That picture moved millions of people all over the world and

:22:36. > :22:39.charities who do with refugees said it was extraordinary for a while,

:22:40. > :22:43.websites spiked up to many thousands of hits a day, and there was a big

:22:44. > :22:47.response to the image of that little boy 's body, but it did not last.

:22:48. > :22:53.Many, many hundreds of children have died since he died, in this last

:22:54. > :22:58.year, and still a crisis goes on, and we're not really meeting our

:22:59. > :23:02.responsibilities to help them. Let's talk about those responsibilities.

:23:03. > :23:05.You've been to the jungle in Calais, and many unaccompanied children

:23:06. > :23:09.there. Tell us about the conversations you had. Yes, I've

:23:10. > :23:12.been several times, six weeks ago I went and interviewed a whole group

:23:13. > :23:20.of small boys between eight and 14 years old, Syrian and Afghan, and

:23:21. > :23:23.I've never seen children in despair. I've seen my own kids angry and

:23:24. > :23:29.frightened or upset, but never children in despair and it's

:23:30. > :23:32.incredibly shocking. Many of those children have now been living in

:23:33. > :23:37.this muddy field without their parents and proper food or education

:23:38. > :23:41.or play spaces, or protection for nine months for that they've had a

:23:42. > :23:45.winter and they are facing another winter if we don't do something

:23:46. > :23:50.about it. We have a very proud tradition in this country, don't we?

:23:51. > :23:53.We brought 10,000 Jewish refugee children over and we are rightly

:23:54. > :23:59.proud of that tradition. These are war victims too. We really need to

:24:00. > :24:03.be able to offer humanitarian help them as long as these crises last

:24:04. > :24:09.and then hopefully they can home again. I want to bring in Muhammad,

:24:10. > :24:16.15 years old, a child refugee from the Syrian war. And also Tim Farron,

:24:17. > :24:21.as well, the leader of the Liberal Democrats. I want to speak to

:24:22. > :24:26.Muhammad. We are hoping to speak to him on Skype but a few technical

:24:27. > :24:37.problems. Muhammad, tell me what happened to you and your journey

:24:38. > :24:45.from Syria. Hello. Our journey from Syria to Germany wasn't that much

:24:46. > :24:53.difficult. We crossed the border, in one night, on the Dutch border and

:24:54. > :25:00.we stayed in a refugee camp. About three months it took us. You came

:25:01. > :25:06.with your mother, you have lost contact with your father? Yes, we

:25:07. > :25:12.lost contact with my dad for three years, he was kidnapped by Isis. I

:25:13. > :25:19.came with my mother and might two sisters. -- my two sisters. It's

:25:20. > :25:24.awful to imagine what you've been through at just 15 years of age. You

:25:25. > :25:31.have no idea what happened to your dad? You haven't had any word?

:25:32. > :25:40.Actually, like a lot of people, we've heard that his dad but someone

:25:41. > :25:47.told my mother he is alive but we're not about it. Is he alive or is he

:25:48. > :25:51.dead? How difficult is that for you to deal with whilst you're trying to

:25:52. > :26:04.rebuild a new life with your mother and sisters? Well, it's a big

:26:05. > :26:18.responsibility. I have to take care of them. Life in Germany is not that

:26:19. > :26:22.difficult, for the refugees who came for one or two years, something like

:26:23. > :26:27.that. Have you made friends at school? Have you settled in in

:26:28. > :26:33.Germany? German people are very welcoming and very nice people and,

:26:34. > :26:38.yeah, I'm now at school and I've made a lot of friends. They are

:26:39. > :26:46.really nice people here. They never hated anyone. Muhammad, it's great

:26:47. > :26:50.to hear that. Juliet is smiling there is some good stories coming

:26:51. > :26:53.out of this. Is that the kind of example of what you want to see here

:26:54. > :26:58.in the UK of a young person from Syria being given an opportunity to

:26:59. > :27:03.have a new life? Yes, absolutely, and the fact of the UK hasn't

:27:04. > :27:07.stepped up and provided that opportunity to people like Mohammed,

:27:08. > :27:14.has got so much to give, and such a terrible place to escape from, to

:27:15. > :27:17.give him opportunities which is in Germany's favour, enhances Germany's

:27:18. > :27:24.standing in the world, let's be honest, provide great new talent for

:27:25. > :27:27.the country and we turn our backs. Listening to Alan Kurdi's father,

:27:28. > :27:31.brings back the heartbreak for me again. I have been to the jungle

:27:32. > :27:37.myself and been to some of the camps in Greece and met many of those

:27:38. > :27:43.young people in desperate circumstances that Juliet talks

:27:44. > :27:46.about. And I do think that photograph of Alan Kurdi's body on

:27:47. > :27:51.the beach was hugely powerful. I remember not being able to look at

:27:52. > :27:55.it myself and it being one of the most moving things I've ever seen. I

:27:56. > :28:02.remember sending a message to the independent editor who publish that

:28:03. > :28:05.photograph and just saying, you've done a really powerful thing here.

:28:06. > :28:11.Because I think what did happen is that it took people's mind off a

:28:12. > :28:16.story that was being peddled by some that the refugee crisis was all

:28:17. > :28:19.about dreadful economic migrants trying to take advantage of

:28:20. > :28:24.civilised society in the West. It made people realise what this is

:28:25. > :28:26.really about, innocent, desperate families taking unspeakable risks

:28:27. > :28:34.because the bigger risk was to stay put. That picture changed a lot,

:28:35. > :28:37.but, sadly, a year ago, David Cameron was planning to take no

:28:38. > :28:43.refugees from the crisis area and after he did that, he pledged, by a

:28:44. > :28:50.lot of pressure from others, to take up to 20,000. He has taken, this

:28:51. > :28:54.government now, has taken barely 1012 months and it seems to me we

:28:55. > :28:57.have a government under Theresa May now, and David Cameron in the past,

:28:58. > :29:02.desperate to do the minimum to help these desperate people to assuage

:29:03. > :29:06.public opinion. That's why we need to keep up the pressure. Before we

:29:07. > :29:11.talk about those numbers. Juliet, I'm interested it to get your

:29:12. > :29:14.thoughts, living in a world of social media, you go through

:29:15. > :29:18.Twitter, there's so many disturbing images all the time, we are

:29:19. > :29:22.bombarded with from Aleppo and Syria. Do you think there's a danger

:29:23. > :29:28.we become desensitised and an image, if had seen an image of Alan Kurdi

:29:29. > :29:34.ten years ago, it would have stayed with people more than in the age we

:29:35. > :29:38.live in? That's a real danger, yes, I do. What happens is this

:29:39. > :29:41.conversation about refugees get appropriated all the time. Ordinary

:29:42. > :29:46.people saw that image one year ago and we profoundly moved. People who

:29:47. > :29:50.had kids and those who didn't wanted to do something with the

:29:51. > :29:54.conversation gets appropriated into politics. If you are a kid living in

:29:55. > :29:59.Calais, desperate, without parents, no education, hungry, it doesn't

:30:00. > :30:05.help you you're being used as a political pawn. 178 of those

:30:06. > :30:11.children in Calais have a legal right to be in the UK because they

:30:12. > :30:17.have close family here. Under EU law they are entitled to be reunited

:30:18. > :30:19.with their family and after the memorial for Alan Kurdi, we are

:30:20. > :30:26.going to hand in a letter to Amber Rudd to say please bring 387

:30:27. > :30:30.children, tiny number, in Calais, who have the legal right to be here,

:30:31. > :30:33.some of them about half, because I have close family there, and the

:30:34. > :30:38.other because they have been identified as extremely vulnerable,

:30:39. > :30:42.and, under the amendment to the immigration bill that David Cameron

:30:43. > :30:45.past, they need to be here. The government said this is going to be

:30:46. > :30:48.the responsibility of local councils and so on, but many councils have

:30:49. > :30:52.said they are willing to do that, and actually a lot of cancers have

:30:53. > :30:57.been to Calais recently, last week, and very ready to do that but we

:30:58. > :31:01.need the Home Office now to give it the green light, the support of the

:31:02. > :31:05.government to recognise that desperate plight of this children,

:31:06. > :31:08.and we must add up to our responsibilities. We will be very

:31:09. > :31:12.ashamed of ourselves if we don't. Looking back at this period, will be

:31:13. > :31:15.really ashamed of ourselves if history says these children were

:31:16. > :31:19.suffering in these numbers to this extent and we did nothing as the

:31:20. > :31:20.country. I don't think people want to be in a country that has that

:31:21. > :31:29.reputation. Since the Brexit vote immigration

:31:30. > :31:34.has been such a huge issue here in the UK. Karen on Facebook says we

:31:35. > :31:37.have enough room, where is the humanity? Stop blaming this father,

:31:38. > :31:42.he was looking for a better future, we don't know the half of it. The

:31:43. > :31:45.world is to blame. However, John says three simple words, we are

:31:46. > :31:49.full. What is we are full mean? These are children who already have

:31:50. > :31:53.families in the UK. There is a bed waiting for these children in

:31:54. > :31:57.somebody's home somewhere. They are legally entitled to be here. We are

:31:58. > :32:01.not... People are worried about immigration and I can understand

:32:02. > :32:04.that. I really, really do. But it's important to remember it's

:32:05. > :32:08.completely different talking about the free movement of people inside

:32:09. > :32:13.Europe which was a big issue in Brexit and that was one concern

:32:14. > :32:15.which I respect, but there is a completely different issue to

:32:16. > :32:21.children and families fleeing barrel bombs and gas and death in places

:32:22. > :32:23.like Syria or Isis in Afghanistan. Those are two different categories

:32:24. > :32:30.and what happens unfortunately is the whole thing gets lumped together

:32:31. > :32:34.as immigration. But seeking sanctuary is an international legal

:32:35. > :32:38.right and these are very, very tiny numbers. The movements of people

:32:39. > :32:41.inside the EU which was the Brexit sort of preoccupation is a

:32:42. > :32:45.completely different subject. We are not talking about that this morning.

:32:46. > :32:51.Lots of people do confuse the issue together with immigration. They do.

:32:52. > :32:56.I want to bring Mohammed back in who I am hoping is still on the phone,

:32:57. > :33:01.from Germany, he is 15 and is settled in Germany. Do you think

:33:02. > :33:05.that image of Aylan that we are talking about that was released a

:33:06. > :33:10.year ago today, do you think that made politicians in Germany change

:33:11. > :33:18.their mind s that why you feel you have a home now in Germany? Well,

:33:19. > :33:24.actually the image, yeah, actually it made in the first month it made

:33:25. > :33:33.like people start to say we have to help them like that. After that they

:33:34. > :33:39.stopped like even thinking about the photo and like people start to don't

:33:40. > :33:44.care. If they want really to help they can maybe just help like take

:33:45. > :33:50.helping what is happening now in Syria, taking out what is happening

:33:51. > :33:56.now in Syria by Isis and yeah, criminals. Thank you so much for

:33:57. > :33:58.speaking to us from Germany. Thank you for coming in, Juliet and also

:33:59. > :34:05.to Tim Farron. After a lifetime with the poor,

:34:06. > :34:08.Mother Teresa speeds to sainthood. Affectionately called

:34:09. > :34:09.the saint of the gutters, Mother Teresa of Calcutta will be

:34:10. > :34:12.officially a saint of In a couple of minutes' time,

:34:13. > :34:15.we'll speak to those Southern Rail have just announced

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:34:31. > :34:34.hashtag victoria live Here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom

:34:35. > :34:39.with a summary of today's news. Some of the country's most senior

:34:40. > :34:42.medical leaders have condemned the series of strikes planned

:34:43. > :34:44.by junior doctors in England, as the row over a new

:34:45. > :34:50.contract intensifies. A week of strikes this month will be

:34:51. > :34:53.followed by three more five-day walkouts in October,

:34:54. > :34:55.November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal

:34:56. > :34:57.Colleges says the proposed action A 23-year-old man has been charged

:34:58. > :35:07.in connection with the deaths of a boy and his aunt,

:35:08. > :35:11.who were hit by a car being chased by police in south-east

:35:12. > :35:12.London on Wednesday. Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper

:35:13. > :35:15.were walking along a road Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode,

:35:16. > :35:19.is due to appear before Bromley Magistrates today to face

:35:20. > :35:21.two counts of death A state of emergency has

:35:22. > :35:37.been declared in Florida Schools and government offices have

:35:38. > :35:40.been closed and thousands It's the first hurricane to hit

:35:41. > :35:48.Florida in 11 years. The electronics company Samsung

:35:49. > :35:50.is expected to announce a recall of some of its mobile phones,

:35:51. > :35:53.after reports of the devices The global recall is of

:35:54. > :35:56.the Galaxy Note 7 smartphone. Reports suggest Samsung intends

:35:57. > :36:10.to replace the batteries in these It's also temporarily halting sales

:36:11. > :36:15.of the phone. More from me at the top of the hour.

:36:16. > :36:18.Now the sport. The headlines: For the first time

:36:19. > :36:25.since 1968 there are three British men in the third round of the US

:36:26. > :36:34.Open. Dan Evans secured one of the biggest wins of his career: Andy

:36:35. > :36:39.Murray said it was like playing in headphones, so loud was the sound of

:36:40. > :36:48.torrential rain on the new stadium roof. It didn't stop him from

:36:49. > :36:54.winning in straight sets. Half-centuries from Ben Stokes and

:36:55. > :37:03.Johnny Bairstow led England to a victory and a 4-0 lead in that

:37:04. > :37:06.series. Laura Muir won the 1500 metres diamond league title. She

:37:07. > :37:16.becomes the third British woman to win a diamond league title and says

:37:17. > :37:22.there is little for her to improve ahead of the championships.

:37:23. > :37:23.Counter-terrorism police have launched an investigation

:37:24. > :37:26.into an internet troll claiming to be a Jeremy Corbyn supporter,

:37:27. > :37:29.who said on Facebook that a Jewish female Labour MP should be hanged.

:37:30. > :37:31.Ruth Smeeth is now receiving special protection from police.

:37:32. > :37:42.First of all, Ruth, tell us more about this. What threats have you

:37:43. > :37:48.received? Since the end of June I have received somewhere in the

:37:49. > :37:52.region of 25,000 pieces of abuse, I got 20,000 pieces of abuse within 12

:37:53. > :37:57.hours. Once it starts on social media it keeps going. Most of it was

:37:58. > :38:04.on social media, most of it was on Twitter. A great deal on Facebook

:38:05. > :38:10.and calls to my office and e-mails. This was one of the worst, not The

:38:11. > :38:17.Worst, but one of the worst that was quite clear and was passed over to

:38:18. > :38:21.the counterterrorism team by parliamentary state this year, a

:38:22. > :38:25.matter of weeks ago. It's vile. It's disgusting. And it's done in the

:38:26. > :38:28.name of the leader of the Labour Party which makes it even worse. I

:38:29. > :38:32.know that Jeremy Corbyn will condemn this but it's not about condemning,

:38:33. > :38:40.it's what people are doing in his name and what is now seemingly

:38:41. > :38:45.acceptable. Do you feel in danger? I think, look, the reality is we are

:38:46. > :38:48.still a matter of weeks since Jo Cox was brutally murdered, any MP, not

:38:49. > :38:52.least those of us that only got elected for the first time last

:38:53. > :38:55.year, we are still doing everything at once, we are still trying to find

:38:56. > :39:00.our feet and make sure we are representing our constituents to the

:39:01. > :39:02.best of our abilities. Of course there have been moments of concern

:39:03. > :39:17.and fear. The additional security, but it's

:39:18. > :39:20.not about me. It's about what it means for friends and family and not

:39:21. > :39:24.least my team and my staff, they're the ones that see all the abuse

:39:25. > :39:28.first. They're the ones that have to deal with it and it's unacceptable.

:39:29. > :39:33.I got elected, I put myself out there. I am honoured and privileged

:39:34. > :39:37.to be representing my constituents, fighting for them. To suggest that

:39:38. > :39:43.this has become normal now, that this level of abuse is acceptable,

:39:44. > :39:46.it just simply can't be. Who else would want to get elected? Why would

:39:47. > :39:49.anyone want to put themselves in this position and their families?

:39:50. > :39:54.It's why we have to clamp down on it, it's not about me, it's about

:39:55. > :40:02.everyone else that is elected or wants to be elected. Just give us

:40:03. > :40:08.the background here, a little bit about the launch for the Labour

:40:09. > :40:15.anti-Semitism review, remind us of that background. There was an

:40:16. > :40:19.anti-Semitism review that was launched on 30th June earlier this

:40:20. > :40:25.year. It had some significant findings in it. Unfortunately, the

:40:26. > :40:29.launch event turned into an absolute farce where I was abused by, not

:40:30. > :40:38.just someone in the audience who felt it was appropriate to attack me

:40:39. > :40:43.and accuse me of being in cahoots with the media and also members of

:40:44. > :40:48.the audience. At that point I walked out, I made no public statement and

:40:49. > :40:53.walked out, that what led to this level of abuse. I turned the other

:40:54. > :40:58.cheek and walked away. After that moment the world's gone crazy. It

:40:59. > :41:03.shouldn't be that MPs like myself, like other Jewish MPs or female MPs,

:41:04. > :41:08.and it has been women who have taken a brunt from this, should have to

:41:09. > :41:12.ignore it. Jeremy Corbyn was clear, apparently, that while he condemned

:41:13. > :41:16.it, we should ignore the abuse. Threats detailing how someone wants

:41:17. > :41:20.to hang me and what they want to do to me, that's not something that I

:41:21. > :41:24.nor the police can ignore. On that I want to say how amazing the police

:41:25. > :41:28.have been. They've given an extraordinary service that they - to

:41:29. > :41:32.me and to any of my constituents and for that I am very grateful. Let's

:41:33. > :41:39.remind people of what you were talking about there when you were

:41:40. > :41:44.heckled at that conference by a pro-Corbyn activist. He stood up and

:41:45. > :41:55.accused you of colluding with the Telegraph newspaper. We have a short

:41:56. > :42:07.clip of that. How dare you! The Labour Party has

:42:08. > :42:10.to change in terms of representation, including Spads...

:42:11. > :42:14.You mentioned Jo Cox and the murder of Jo Cox and the concerns you have.

:42:15. > :42:18.Presumably for your family and friends it's a worrying time, as

:42:19. > :42:24.well. It is and it's much more about them than me. I mean, the impact on

:42:25. > :42:28.my mum and all the people that care about me, I have been touched by the

:42:29. > :42:32.amount of support and solidarity from colleagues and friends but they

:42:33. > :42:36.shouldn't have to think about these things and definitely shouldn't have

:42:37. > :42:42.to see these things written about me in print. This is not an easy time

:42:43. > :42:44.for anybody. And emotions are heightened because of the leadership

:42:45. > :42:49.election within my own party. But that isn't an excuse. Politicians

:42:50. > :42:54.and all people are getting bullied and harassed on social media. What I

:42:55. > :42:59.need is for the leader of my party, the leader of the opposition to make

:43:00. > :43:02.it clear what can be done. One of the things he could personally do,

:43:03. > :43:06.this is being done in his name, not by him but in his name, he should be

:43:07. > :43:10.naming and shaming some of the worst perpetrators doing it in his name

:43:11. > :43:16.and making it clear publicly that they do not speak for him. That this

:43:17. > :43:19.is unacceptable. It's not just enough that the wonderful staff at

:43:20. > :43:25.the Labour Party expel people and the police have to deal with it,

:43:26. > :43:28.there is a vile amount of racism and intolerance and abuse online which

:43:29. > :43:34.then feeds on to our streets and leads to a culture of intolerance.

:43:35. > :43:38.He could actually personally do something about, that's what I am

:43:39. > :43:47.asking him to do. We have had a statement. I will read this to you.

:43:48. > :43:54.The No abuse is carried out in Jeremy's name and no one responsible

:43:55. > :43:58.for abuse is a genuine supporter of Jeremy's. This is why Jeremy

:43:59. > :44:01.launched respect and unity, a code of conduct calling on members and

:44:02. > :44:04.supporters to conduct themselves with a high standard of behaviour.

:44:05. > :44:08.All evidence of abuse should be reported to both the party and to

:44:09. > :44:11.the police so that action may be taken against the individuals

:44:12. > :44:15.responsible. Also, the Labour Party has given us

:44:16. > :44:20.a statement saying the Labour Party fully supports the work of the

:44:21. > :44:23.police in ensuring the safety and protection of all MPs and their

:44:24. > :44:26.staff. Threatening behaviour will not be tolerated within the party

:44:27. > :44:30.and we urge anyone receiving any abuse to contact the party and where

:44:31. > :44:34.relevant the police. We will do all we can to support Ruth and her staff

:44:35. > :44:37.during this time. Ruth, thank you for joining us this morning and

:44:38. > :44:44.telling us about that experience of yours.

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:45:02. > :45:04.Mother Teresa, the Roman Catholic nun who worked with the poor

:45:05. > :45:07.in the Indian city of Kolkata is to be declared a saint on Sunday.

:45:08. > :45:10.She died in 1997 at the age of 87, and was beatified -

:45:11. > :45:12.the first step on the road to sainthood in 2003.

:45:13. > :45:15.In a moment we'll be talking to those who knew her,

:45:16. > :45:17.and those who are critical of the Vatican's decision

:45:18. > :45:20.to make her a saint, but first let's take a look at some

:45:21. > :45:25.prominent moments from her remarkable life.

:45:26. > :45:28.Mother Teressa was a Roman Catholic nun accredited for her work

:45:29. > :45:30.with the poor in the slums of the Indian city

:45:31. > :45:33.Her order, the Missionaries of Charity, was set up

:45:34. > :45:38.in 1950 and now operates in over 100 countries.

:45:39. > :45:45.Now we are in 105 countries and we are 500 convents around

:45:46. > :45:55.And what is very beautiful, many people thank me for giving them

:45:56. > :46:04.It has helped so many people who have never had a chance to do

:46:05. > :46:11.And through us they are getting a reward in the work so much.

:46:12. > :46:13.Mother Teresa has received multiple honours including an order

:46:14. > :46:19.of merit from the Queen, and in 1979 Nobel Peace Prize,

:46:20. > :46:22.although she asked that the ceremonial banquet be cancelled

:46:23. > :46:24.and the proceeds be given to the poor.

:46:25. > :46:28.Her opposition to contraception and abortion but her at odds

:46:29. > :46:32.She has been credited with two miracles, both involving

:46:33. > :46:40.The first was a Bengali tribal woman who was cured from a stomach tumour.

:46:41. > :46:44.The second was a Brazilian man with several brain tumours.

:46:45. > :46:47.He put his dramatic recovery down to prayers offered to the nun

:46:48. > :46:56.She will be officially named as a saint by Pope Francis on Sunday.

:46:57. > :46:59.I'm joined now by Dr Priya Virmani who grew up

:47:00. > :47:02.with Mother Teresa in Kolkata, Father Brian Kolodiejchuk

:47:03. > :47:05.who was instrumental in the decision to make her a Saint and journalist

:47:06. > :47:09.Paul Vallely who says she has been given the honour too soon.

:47:10. > :47:18.Thank you for coming in. How old were you when you first met mother

:47:19. > :47:26.Teresa? I was very little. I remember her before I even began

:47:27. > :47:32.school. I would go to her orphanage, children's home, in Calcutta, and I

:47:33. > :47:38.was too young so I would play with children but as I grew up, I began

:47:39. > :47:42.volunteering as well. What was she like because people obviously have a

:47:43. > :47:47.view of her as the person who did all of the good work, but on a human

:47:48. > :47:51.level, what was she like? Personally, for me, she was an

:47:52. > :47:57.extension of my family. She was the most compassionate, the most loving,

:47:58. > :48:05.the most cheerful and funny granny I could ever have had. Or ever

:48:06. > :48:09.imagined. I was always struck by how she met people irrespective of who

:48:10. > :48:15.the person was, whether it was a beggar from the streets, a VIP,

:48:16. > :48:20.journalist or even one of her fiercest critics, she always met

:48:21. > :48:26.them with untempered compassion. Her face would light up of kindness and

:48:27. > :48:32.her wrinkles would be radiant with her kindness, and her aura was one

:48:33. > :48:36.of unconditional love, really, to receive or to feel and energy of

:48:37. > :48:41.unconditional love from someone, who was not from your immediate family,

:48:42. > :48:47.it is quite exceptional. Paul, you think that becoming a saint, as she

:48:48. > :48:52.will on Sunday, is a bit too soon. Explain why. I'm not a critic of

:48:53. > :48:55.mother to raise a full spyware went to one of their camps and Ethiopian

:48:56. > :49:00.when I covered the famine and it was a place of extraordinary calm and

:49:01. > :49:06.peace and serenity. I'm not critical of her, but critical of the Vatican.

:49:07. > :49:12.Until recently, you had to have at least a 200 year gap between dying

:49:13. > :49:18.and being made a saint and what that gap allowed was for your, the Church

:49:19. > :49:28.calls her relic of virtue, your towering qualities, to overshadow

:49:29. > :49:31.all the floors of your personality, and it was a process where people

:49:32. > :49:38.were honoured by the passage of time. What has happened two Popas

:49:39. > :49:44.ago, the system was changed and, instead of having a minimum of 50

:49:45. > :49:49.years as a gap between the beatification and canonisation, it

:49:50. > :49:53.was speeded up, fast tracked saint had introduced. What that does is

:49:54. > :49:58.allow controversy into canonisation so there are a lot of critics of

:49:59. > :50:01.mother to who say their homes concentrated on the care of a dying

:50:02. > :50:06.rather than the cure of the living, and that she was in love with

:50:07. > :50:11.poverty rather than the poor, and that she rubbed shoulders with rich

:50:12. > :50:15.people, dodgy politicians, fraudsters, to get money off them

:50:16. > :50:19.and didn't keep proper accounts. These accusations have been made

:50:20. > :50:25.about her and I think there would be far better for the church if time

:50:26. > :50:30.allowed those to fade and yours made a saint in 100 years rather than on

:50:31. > :50:35.Sunday. Do you think any of those criticisms are justified because she

:50:36. > :50:40.was, of course, against abortion, she did meet Saddam Hussein, got

:50:41. > :50:49.money from Robert Maxwell. She rubbed shoulders with some people

:50:50. > :50:54.who were unsavoury characters. I think it's very important to

:50:55. > :50:58.contextualise the criticism that she is given for firstly, when you talk

:50:59. > :51:04.about her homes which look after those who are dying, her point was

:51:05. > :51:11.to lift people who were dying absolutely unloved with no dig the

:51:12. > :51:15.tea at all on the streets, -- dignity, and I walk on the city

:51:16. > :51:21.streets of Calcutta would prove that's happening today. She provided

:51:22. > :51:28.them with basic care and a basic sense of dignity in death, and not

:51:29. > :51:33.with 5-star hospital treatment, so that puts that aspect into context.

:51:34. > :51:38.When you look at the fact she rubbed shoulders with the rich and the

:51:39. > :51:43.famous, she did that in a very annoying way and often said, and she

:51:44. > :51:49.wrote to President George Bush and Saddam Hussein in 1991, when the war

:51:50. > :51:53.happened, saying, I appeal to you for peace. She did say, if people

:51:54. > :51:58.were to come to her with their money, irrespective of how ill

:51:59. > :52:03.begotten that money was, she felt that gave it a channel to allow that

:52:04. > :52:08.money to then be used for more compassionate and good causes, she

:52:09. > :52:12.was compassionate to the point of naivete, and she ran the risk of

:52:13. > :52:19.being criticised because she was compassionate without exception. Did

:52:20. > :52:24.you challenge her on her anti-abortion stance, for example? I

:52:25. > :52:29.did not. I was a teenager and quite young when she passed away. But I do

:52:30. > :52:35.understand that her stance on abortion came from her fundamental

:52:36. > :52:40.religious conditioning and she did not make it a problem whereas we

:52:41. > :52:45.understand it's important to look at the concept of abortion and see how

:52:46. > :52:51.it intersects with other social economic factors, factors of gender,

:52:52. > :52:54.a woman's choice over her body, whereas she took an entirely

:52:55. > :52:59.overarching compassionate stance where she said all life is sacred

:53:00. > :53:03.including that of a foetus. Paul, you've talked about the time as an

:53:04. > :53:07.issue for you, but do you think she should be made a saint? She could

:53:08. > :53:13.possibly be made a saint in 100 years' time, without any of this

:53:14. > :53:19.controversy, and my concern is that this kind of controversy discredits

:53:20. > :53:23.the Catholic canonisation process in the eyes of the wider world. I think

:53:24. > :53:28.it would have been sensible and prudent to have waited a bit longer.

:53:29. > :53:31.Thank you very much indeed for coming into the studio.

:53:32. > :53:33.Do you have surgery planned this autumn?

:53:34. > :53:35.Are you worried that your operation will be cancelled because

:53:36. > :53:37.of the junior doctors' plans for strike action?

:53:38. > :53:41.Hashtag victorialive or text us on 61124.

:53:42. > :53:50.We'll be discussing that around 10am.

:53:51. > :53:53.A ?20 million fund and a new review board has been unveiled in a bid

:53:54. > :53:56.to improve Southern rail services and 'get to grips' with

:53:57. > :54:05.Its profits have soared to ?99.8 million, a rise of 27%.

:54:06. > :54:07.The government action comes after months of disruption,

:54:08. > :54:10.strikes and a reduced service on rail routes in south London,

:54:11. > :54:24.The Chief Executive has turned down a bonus and a pay rise. We can speak

:54:25. > :54:28.to Peter Eisenach now, a customer of Southern rail who I presume is

:54:29. > :54:34.pretty fed up this morning? Yes, an understatement. It has been hell,

:54:35. > :54:41.the last few months. But I think what we have got... It's very good

:54:42. > :54:45.to give up his bonus but my fares have up by 3%, so I'm still paying

:54:46. > :54:48.more for a service that is not delivering what it should do.

:54:49. > :54:53.Explain to people who don't use it, or don't understand how awful it's

:54:54. > :54:57.been, what is your average commute? My commute is two hours. The actual

:54:58. > :55:02.train journey itself should be less than one hour. It never is. What

:55:03. > :55:06.happens is, you have to get on an earlier train to work to ensure you

:55:07. > :55:11.are there on time. I have meetings that can't be cancelled at such, and

:55:12. > :55:15.you tend to leave work later in the hope and expectation you will get

:55:16. > :55:19.home but you never get home when you are supposed to. Your day is

:55:20. > :55:24.elongated, your ability to ensure you are at a meeting at a set time

:55:25. > :55:31.often means it's not possible. You can't often get a seat and its the

:55:32. > :55:37.irregularity of the whole service. It's deplorable. It shows no sign of

:55:38. > :55:42.getting better. It seems curious that you read these profits, a rise

:55:43. > :55:45.of 27%, and just yesterday the government was saying, here are some

:55:46. > :55:49.money to sort out which would suggest maybe money is not the issue

:55:50. > :55:53.here. There are three main issues in this deplorable situation. The first

:55:54. > :55:59.issue sorted if the ongoing dispute with the unions, which, until it

:56:00. > :56:03.sorted, the fundamental issue will not go away, so you've got to get

:56:04. > :56:08.that done and the politicians need to ban some heads and sort that out.

:56:09. > :56:13.The second issue is often overlooked, the infrastructure.

:56:14. > :56:18.Network Rail, who police the tracks and signals, we have got a Victorian

:56:19. > :56:21.infrastructure, decades of underfunding, and a lot of the

:56:22. > :56:29.delays are down to signal failures or sink holes, and any other type of

:56:30. > :56:33.excuse, it's too hot, cold, leaves on the line, we've all been there.

:56:34. > :56:38.I'm sure my fellow commuters will raise a wry smile. The third issue,

:56:39. > :56:42.one which is not often talked about, is the Southern rail, when they took

:56:43. > :56:47.over the franchise, misinterpreted a number of drivers they needed, not

:56:48. > :56:55.enough, so they rely on the good nature of people. And of course, it

:56:56. > :57:00.takes nine months to train driver, so this issue is ongoing and will

:57:01. > :57:06.take time, but the union peace can be sorted quickly. The

:57:07. > :57:11.infrastructure will take longer and the train drivers, hopefully, sooner

:57:12. > :57:15.than later. Peter, and well done for getting in. It sounds like it's not

:57:16. > :57:20.always possible on time. Still to come, Donald Trump 's wife is suing

:57:21. > :57:24.the Daily Mail for alleging she worked as an escort back in the

:57:25. > :57:27.1990s. We will get the latest from our correspondence.

:57:28. > :57:29.Let's get the latest weather update with Alex Deakin.

:57:30. > :57:33.Alex, Hurricane Hermeen has made landfall in Florida?

:57:34. > :57:40.It's looking pretty grim. Yes, fascinating night but worrying if

:57:41. > :57:44.you are in Florida. The Harry Kane has been developing over the past

:57:45. > :57:46.few days. It has hit in the last few hours in North Florida -- Harry

:57:47. > :57:56.Kane. -- Harry these are the pictures, you can see

:57:57. > :58:00.the trees getting blown around. In terms of its wind strength, it's not

:58:01. > :58:10.that powerful, only a category one storm. -- hurricane. Presumably some

:58:11. > :58:15.holiday-makers could still be there? Terrifying if you've never

:58:16. > :58:19.experienced it. This is the first hurricane to hit Florida directly

:58:20. > :58:23.for 11 years, so we haven't seen this kind of thing for a while and

:58:24. > :58:30.it's been fascinating to watch it through the night. The storm has

:58:31. > :58:33.been gradually improving. The sea is pitifully warmer. You can see the

:58:34. > :58:39.eye of the storm there as it made landfall. It is now weakened and

:58:40. > :58:42.it's not even a hurricane any more, just a tropical storm. It's not the

:58:43. > :58:49.wind which will cause the problem but the rain. It's swinging its way

:58:50. > :58:54.across northern Florida, torrential rain, a couple of inches, and we

:58:55. > :58:58.could see downpours over the next 24 hours or so. Very heavy rain,

:58:59. > :59:01.coupled with a storm surge, where the seas surged up because of the

:59:02. > :59:07.low pressure. That will cause further issues. I'll be at the start

:59:08. > :59:20.of Harry Kane season? This is the peak. -- hurricane season? This is

:59:21. > :59:29.Hermeen. It started that letter a each year? The last one was Wilma.

:59:30. > :59:34.That was 2005. It won't be a storm any more in terms of wind strength

:59:35. > :59:38.but very heavy rain coming into the Carolinas in the next couple of

:59:39. > :59:46.days. We could see close to 400 millimetres of rain. A

:59:47. > :59:50.life-threatening storm surge in the USA, so travel disruption at the

:59:51. > :59:54.very least and the potential for tornadoes as well. We will give a

:59:55. > :59:59.close eye on it for the next 24 hours but back home across the UK,

:00:00. > :00:01.nothing quite bad lively. Low pressure systems to track and the

:00:02. > :00:05.weather front of dribbling southward across England and Wales providing a

:00:06. > :00:09.bit more cloud and a few outbreaks of rain here in there. Some

:00:10. > :00:13.brightness as well across England and Wales. For Scotland and Northern

:00:14. > :00:18.Ireland, some sunshine but also a few showers coming in, scattered

:00:19. > :00:20.about, so it won't rain all day and actually, northern England, Wales

:00:21. > :00:24.and the south-west of England, brightening up, and a pleasant

:00:25. > :00:28.evening across Devon and Cornwall and most of Wales. For the Midlands,

:00:29. > :00:32.East Anglia and the south-east, a cracking day yesterday but different

:00:33. > :00:36.today, with rain and drizzle, nothing too heavy. Northern England,

:00:37. > :00:40.Dell, damp morning and further north, sunny spells and some

:00:41. > :00:46.showers. Showers most frequent in the north and west. North-east

:00:47. > :00:51.Scotland could stay dry. Through the evening, the cloud and rain on and

:00:52. > :00:54.off, and drizzle, will clear away, not completely until midnight and

:00:55. > :00:58.the showers will go in the far north-west of the most of us, a dry

:00:59. > :01:03.night with clear skies, light wind and a comfortable night. Not as warm

:01:04. > :01:09.as lately, down to 13-14, so that's how we go into Saturday. The weekend

:01:10. > :01:12.starts dry and fine but we have a complication, and messy picture,

:01:13. > :01:15.this developing weather system, which has been keeping us on our

:01:16. > :01:19.toes throughout the week as to when the rain will arrive and it looks

:01:20. > :01:22.like most of us will start sunny on Saturday but the rain pushed and

:01:23. > :01:25.Northern Ireland, Wales and south-west England through the

:01:26. > :01:28.morning and spreads its way into southern Scotland eventually into

:01:29. > :01:32.eastern England through the day. The south-east may well not see the rain

:01:33. > :01:36.until the evening and north-east Scotland should be a fine day. For

:01:37. > :01:40.most, it turns wet and windy during Saturday. All that wind and rain is

:01:41. > :01:44.heading towards Denmark by Sunday. We are left behind with a few

:01:45. > :01:48.showers, particularly in the east, and a cool breeze blowing but

:01:49. > :01:51.certainly for Northern Ireland, Wales and south-west England, after

:01:52. > :01:55.a wet Sunday, Sunday looks like being a much drier and brighter day,

:01:56. > :01:58.so all in all, the weekend is a complicated picture. It starts dry

:01:59. > :02:04.and sunny on Saturday but we will see some rain on Sunday but many of

:02:05. > :02:08.us it looks like being the dry and brighter day. More updates

:02:09. > :02:09.throughout the day on ABC News and BBC weather website about that storm

:02:10. > :02:14.in the USA. Welcome to the programme

:02:15. > :02:18.if you have just joined us. Coming up: Patient groups warn

:02:19. > :02:21.of a catastrophic impact on safety over junior doctors' plans

:02:22. > :02:23.for a wave of strike action It's one year since the shocking

:02:24. > :02:34.image of three-year-old Syrian refugee Aylan Kurdi who drowned

:02:35. > :02:47.trying to cross to Europe. Looking back at this period we will

:02:48. > :02:51.be really ashamed of ourselves if history says these children were

:02:52. > :02:53.suffering in these numbers to this extent and we did nothing as a

:02:54. > :02:55.country. I don't think people want to be in a country that has that

:02:56. > :03:04.reputation. Donald Trump's wife sues

:03:05. > :03:08.the Daily Mail over an article suggesting she worked as an escort

:03:09. > :03:11.in the 1990s. Here's Ben in the newsroom

:03:12. > :03:14.with a summary of today's news. Some of the country's most senior

:03:15. > :03:19.medical leaders have condemned the series of strikes planned

:03:20. > :03:21.by junior doctors in England, as the row over a new

:03:22. > :03:24.contract intensifies. A week of strikes this month will be

:03:25. > :03:28.followed by three more five-day walkouts in October,

:03:29. > :03:31.November and December. The Academy of Medical Royal

:03:32. > :03:37.Colleges says the proposed action One of the organisations

:03:38. > :03:40.which represents charities that support patients has told this

:03:41. > :03:52.programme further talks are needed. We are very concerned about this

:03:53. > :03:56.huge escalation in the industrial dispute and frustrated, given that a

:03:57. > :04:00.deal was very close to being settled earlier in the summer. There is no

:04:01. > :04:03.end in sight to these strikes. They will have an impact on patients. We

:04:04. > :04:11.can't be sure exactly what the impact will be. It depends on how

:04:12. > :04:14.well the NHS contingency planning is, but kerb concerned and would

:04:15. > :04:16.like doctors to call off the strike and both sides to get back around

:04:17. > :04:19.the negotiating table. Over 100 faith leaders,

:04:20. > :04:21.council chiefs and celebrities will gather outside the Home Office

:04:22. > :04:24.today, to call on the government to bring 387 refugee children

:04:25. > :04:26.over from Calais. They say the children

:04:27. > :04:30.are all eligible to come here. The groups are gathering one year

:04:31. > :04:34.after the Syrian refugee boy Aylan Kurdi washed up

:04:35. > :04:38.on a Turkish beach. A 23-year-old man has been charged

:04:39. > :04:41.in connection with the deaths of a boy and his aunt,

:04:42. > :04:44.who were hit by a car being chased by police in south-east

:04:45. > :04:46.London on Wednesday. Makayah McDermott and Rosie Cooper

:04:47. > :04:49.were walking along a road Joshua Dobby, of no fixed abode,

:04:50. > :04:55.is due to appear before Bromley Magistrates today to face

:04:56. > :04:57.two counts of death A state of emergency has been

:04:58. > :05:06.declared in Florida Schools and government offices have

:05:07. > :05:21.been closed and thousands It was originally classified as a

:05:22. > :05:25.hurricane but has been downgraded now.

:05:26. > :05:29.with murder over the death of a banker believed to have been

:05:30. > :05:33.Oliver Dearlove died after allegedly being hit by a man

:05:34. > :05:35.while waiting for a taxi on a night out in Blackheath in

:05:36. > :05:38.A post-mortem examination gave the provisional cause

:05:39. > :05:43.The electronics company Samsung is to announce a recall of some

:05:44. > :05:45.of its mobile phones, after reports of the devices

:05:46. > :05:53.The global recall is of the Galaxy Note 7 smartphone.

:05:54. > :05:56.Samsung will be replacing the batteries in these devices,

:05:57. > :06:00.after some exploded, or replacing them with completely new phones.

:06:01. > :06:07.It's also temporarily halting sales of the phone.

:06:08. > :06:10.Melania Trump - the wife of the Republican presidential

:06:11. > :06:17.candidate Donald Trump - is suing the Daily Mail

:06:18. > :06:26.libel saying the newspaper alleged that she was an escort

:06:27. > :06:32.Her lawyer says such claims are a hundred per cent false.

:06:33. > :06:34.The Mail Online has retracted any suggestion the

:06:35. > :06:37.More than two and half billion people around the world may be

:06:38. > :06:39.vulnerable to outbreaks of the Zika virus -

:06:40. > :06:42.according to a new study into the disease.

:06:43. > :06:44.Scientists say countries in Africa and Asia are most at risk and warn

:06:45. > :06:47.it could be hard to prevent, detect and respond to epidemics.

:06:48. > :06:50.The action movie star Jackie Chan, is getting an honorary Oscar

:06:51. > :06:51.for his "extraordinary achievements" in film.

:06:52. > :06:55.has starred in dozens of martial arts films in his native Hong Kong.

:06:56. > :06:58.He went on to huge international success with hits including

:06:59. > :07:00.the Rush Hour franchise, Shanghai Noon, The Karate Kid, and

:07:01. > :07:11.That's the latest news. More from me at half past.

:07:12. > :07:17.Don't forget to get in touch with us throughout the programme. One thing

:07:18. > :07:22.we are talk being is this junior doctors strike. There will be three

:07:23. > :07:27.more extra strikes in October and Nev and December. As a retired nurse

:07:28. > :07:31.concerned about improving quality of patient care I support the proposed

:07:32. > :07:35.action of junior doctors against the Government's new contracts. Sue got

:07:36. > :07:38.in touch on e-mail, I am due to have an operation on 14th September, my

:07:39. > :07:42.husband has booked holiday so he can look after me when I come home. If

:07:43. > :07:45.my operation is rescheduled his company will not reschedule his

:07:46. > :07:49.holiday. He is going to have to take it. When I finally do have my

:07:50. > :07:56.operation he will have to take unpaid leave which will hurt us

:07:57. > :07:59.financially. Another couple here, e-mail, fund resource and recruit a

:08:00. > :08:06.seven-day NHS before you impose it. Bill on e-mail t should be noted

:08:07. > :08:11.that the junior doctors will be striking for five days, they don't

:08:12. > :08:18.want to miss extra pay for weekend work. Let's get all the sport now.

:08:19. > :08:22.For the first time since 1968 there are three British men in the third

:08:23. > :08:27.round of the US Open. Kyle Edmund has been joined in the last 32 by

:08:28. > :08:39.Andy Murray and Dan Evans who secured one of the biggest wins of

:08:40. > :08:42.his career. He beat Alexander Zverev, considered

:08:43. > :08:52.one of the game's brightest young talents.

:08:53. > :08:58.Andy Murray said it was hard to hear during his victory over Marcel

:08:59. > :09:03.Granollers that it felt he was wearing headphones. They were

:09:04. > :09:05.playing under the new roof. He pointed out that players use their

:09:06. > :09:13.ears to help pick up speed and movement of the ball. When the rain

:09:14. > :09:20.came it was certainly loud. I mean, you couldn't hear anything. So, I

:09:21. > :09:24.mean you could hear the line calls but not so much when the opponent

:09:25. > :09:28.was hitting the ball or even when you are hitting the ball really

:09:29. > :09:36.which is tough, because purely because we are not used to it.

:09:37. > :09:58.That's what makes it challenging. There was a defeat for Naomi Broady.

:09:59. > :10:02.She lost in straight sets to world number four Radwanska.

:10:03. > :10:06.There were no broken records this time butted in's cricketers beat

:10:07. > :10:11.Pakistan by four wickets at Headingley. Victory at Old Trafford

:10:12. > :10:15.next Wednesday would give England a 5-0 series whitewash.

:10:16. > :10:19.Britain's Laura Muin says there is little for her to improve ahead of

:10:20. > :10:22.next year's World Championships in London after she rounded off her

:10:23. > :10:28.season in amazing style. Second place in Zurich was enough for her

:10:29. > :10:37.to take the diamond league 1500 metres title from the Olympic

:10:38. > :10:41.champion. Chris Froome is still in contention

:10:42. > :10:46.to complete the grand tour double. The Tour de France champion remains

:10:47. > :11:01.second in the Vuelta in Spain after the 12th stage. 54 seconds behind

:11:02. > :11:06.the overall leader Nairo Quintana. Double Paralympic champion Hannah

:11:07. > :11:10.Cockroft says it would be devastating if the crowds were

:11:11. > :11:15.sparse in Rio this month. She says the build-up to the Games has been

:11:16. > :11:19.low key but she believes the enthusiasm is rising. I believe that

:11:20. > :11:22.we have the support there, the ticket sales have been increasing

:11:23. > :11:30.massively. Everyone is doing their bit now to push it forward. The only

:11:31. > :11:33.thing that's going to make it a successful Games, as long as

:11:34. > :11:36.athletes put the best performances in they can that's what a successful

:11:37. > :11:38.Games is. That's all the sport. The headlines

:11:39. > :11:44.in 20 minutes, see you then. Leading members of the medical

:11:45. > :11:46.profession have raised concerns about the fresh series of strikes

:11:47. > :11:48.planned by junior The Academy of Medical Royal

:11:49. > :11:52.Colleges has warned about the impact of sustained industrial

:11:53. > :11:53.action on patients. The junior doctors

:11:54. > :11:55.insist the new contract, which is at the heart

:11:56. > :11:57.of their dispute with the government, puts

:11:58. > :11:59.patients at risk by imposing change with

:12:00. > :12:00.insufficient resources. Here are the details

:12:01. > :12:13.of the planned industrial action Junior doctors in England will walk

:12:14. > :12:15.out for five days from 8.00 am on 12th September.

:12:16. > :12:18.Unless industrial action is suspended or called off another

:12:19. > :12:22.strike is planned from Wednesday 5th October to Tuesday 11th.

:12:23. > :12:28.In November, junior doctors plan to walk out for another five days from

:12:29. > :12:30.Monday 14th. In the run-up to Christmas they're proposing to

:12:31. > :12:35.strike from Monday 5th December until Friday 9th.

:12:36. > :12:38.With me now is our Health Editor, Hugh Pym, Liz McAnulty

:12:39. > :12:40.who is a Trustee of the Patients Association.

:12:41. > :12:42.And from Worcester - Stephen Dorrell - former

:12:43. > :12:45.Conservative MP and Health Secretary who is now chair of the NHS

:12:46. > :12:47.Confederation, which speaks on behalf of organisations that

:12:48. > :12:52.plan, commission and provide NHS services.

:12:53. > :13:00.Hugh, first of all, take us through this. Obviously, it's early days,

:13:01. > :13:04.but I presume this is going to have a huge impact on routine operations,

:13:05. > :13:12.doctors appointments within hospitals? Well, that's right. We

:13:13. > :13:16.have seen this before. We have had two all-out strikes -- that was back

:13:17. > :13:21.in April and thousands of postponed operations and appointments. It's

:13:22. > :13:25.estimated in the coming weeks, action on September 12th, five days,

:13:26. > :13:29.longer than last time, there will be something like 30,000 routine

:13:30. > :13:32.operations and pieces of surgery postponed and thousands more

:13:33. > :13:35.outpatient appointments. If you multiply by the extra strikes we

:13:36. > :13:40.have heard about in October and November and December you get up to

:13:41. > :13:45.something like 100,000 postponed routine operations. It does have a

:13:46. > :13:49.big impact on patients. That being said, emergency care will be covered

:13:50. > :13:52.by consultants and it's important to point that out, anyone who needs to

:13:53. > :13:57.go to accident and emergency will be looked after. Most hospitals coped

:13:58. > :14:01.pretty well with that side of things when this happened in April. Liz,

:14:02. > :14:05.this is a real worry. I read a couple of comments out before from

:14:06. > :14:08.people saying I have a routine operation, my husband's taking time

:14:09. > :14:13.off work, maybe you have kids, whatever it is, you have plans in

:14:14. > :14:19.place. It's hugely disruptive. And could potentially mean people don't

:14:20. > :14:23.support the junior doctors any more? Well, that's not surprising that

:14:24. > :14:28.people are very concerned about it and very concerned for themselves,

:14:29. > :14:33.number one. But yes, there is a risk that the doctors will lose support.

:14:34. > :14:38.They have had huge support, as have all of the health service

:14:39. > :14:42.professionals and staff who are working in increasingly difficult

:14:43. > :14:50.circumstances. But, for the patients now, there are five days, 30,000 as

:14:51. > :14:53.you said in the first five days, that's not just the 30,000

:14:54. > :14:57.individuals affected but all their families and in many cases people

:14:58. > :15:03.with small businesses where they have to inform clients. It causes

:15:04. > :15:07.absolute havoc for the patients. People are worried, as one of the

:15:08. > :15:12.Patients' Association reports showed a few weeks ago, already many

:15:13. > :15:18.thousands of patients are waiting much longer than the maximum time

:15:19. > :15:21.for knee, hip operations, things that debilitate patients. They're

:15:22. > :15:23.now going to have to wait even longer as a result of this. So, yes,

:15:24. > :15:34.it's devastating. Let's bring in Stephen Doll, former

:15:35. > :15:37.Health Secretary. The fact junior doctors are taking this action, it

:15:38. > :15:42.shows how worried they are about this new contract. I think the two

:15:43. > :15:46.points I want to make. It has the Academy of Royal oncology, the

:15:47. > :15:50.professional leadership of the medical profession, that said today

:15:51. > :15:56.this action is disproportionate. I completely agree with that. You

:15:57. > :15:59.describe the new junior doctor contract in your introduction as the

:16:00. > :16:03.government contract but actually this is a contract that is being

:16:04. > :16:07.negotiated over a very long period, measured in years, and in the

:16:08. > :16:14.concluding stages of that process, it wasn't the government, but the

:16:15. > :16:19.independent ACAS, mediation service, chaired by Sir Brendan Barber,

:16:20. > :16:23.former general secretary of the TUC, so not an instinctive supporter of

:16:24. > :16:27.this government. Add to that process came a contract which, three months

:16:28. > :16:32.ago, the leadership of the BMA themselves said was a good deal for

:16:33. > :16:36.junior doctors. It is against that background I think the move from

:16:37. > :16:40.industrial action in the first half of this year to considerably worse

:16:41. > :16:49.industrial action in the second half of this year is rightly described as

:16:50. > :16:55.disproportionate. As Stephen Dobell points out, the BMA recommended

:16:56. > :17:00.junior doctors signed up to it so it's confusing for people to work

:17:01. > :17:05.out why they are striking. It's confusing. The Academy got everyone

:17:06. > :17:08.around the table and a deal was done and the BMA leadership signed up to

:17:09. > :17:11.it with the government falls the junior doctor leaders then went

:17:12. > :17:15.around the country and said it was a good deal, but the membership voted

:17:16. > :17:20.against it and the BMA are saying, OK, we did what we thought was a

:17:21. > :17:24.good deal, but if 58% vote against, that's what the members want, we

:17:25. > :17:29.have to reflect their views, so the majority want to go back to the

:17:30. > :17:31.negotiating table although the government understandably are

:17:32. > :17:39.saying, what's the point of negotiating and they can't sell it

:17:40. > :17:41.to the members? Surely the key issue here is that a responsible trade

:17:42. > :17:48.union, which is what the BMA normally is, would then talk to its

:17:49. > :17:50.members, not as Mark Porter said on the radio yesterday, throw out the

:17:51. > :17:56.whole of this process and start again, move away from incremental

:17:57. > :18:04.eyes Asian, as he put it, but would seek to demonstrate the deal that

:18:05. > :18:08.they did in the context of the independent conciliation service,

:18:09. > :18:14.the deal they did, which may be, with a couple of tweaks, that deal

:18:15. > :18:23.should be a continuation to recommend the deal they did to their

:18:24. > :18:25.members. The emphasis is on the contract, the junior doctors

:18:26. > :18:31.contract, but the Secretary of State, when introducing it, it is to

:18:32. > :18:37.enable doctors to provide a seven-day service. Well, the

:18:38. > :18:42.difficulty we see from the Patients' Association is we are already

:18:43. > :18:45.hearing from thousands of people a year about how the service is

:18:46. > :18:53.creaking at the seams already on a five-day service. So we cannot

:18:54. > :18:58.understand how the health service can expand to provide this service

:18:59. > :19:03.without extra resources McGovern would've said there will be no extra

:19:04. > :19:07.resources for this, so the contract and the blame game going on between

:19:08. > :19:12.the Department of Health officials, the Secretary of State and doctors,

:19:13. > :19:16.is going on and on and is very protracted but underneath all of the

:19:17. > :19:21.squabbling, and blaming, many thousands of patients every day are

:19:22. > :19:27.suffering as a result of a creaking service in many parts of the NHS,

:19:28. > :19:34.AMD, GPs, mental health services, I could go on. What we really wish for

:19:35. > :19:38.is that the Department of Health, the Secretary of State, the doctors,

:19:39. > :19:43.would sit down today to stop the devastation which is going to occur,

:19:44. > :19:47.and solve the immediate problem, but that will only be the tip of the

:19:48. > :19:52.iceberg. They need to look at the wider issues that are causing

:19:53. > :19:59.serious problems for patients in health and social care. This issue

:20:00. > :20:02.of a seven-day NHS in England, it wasn't a Conservative manifesto is

:20:03. > :20:06.the government feels it has a mandate to deliberate, but it has

:20:07. > :20:11.got very confused in its argument over the contract which is a

:20:12. > :20:14.technocratic issue, detail about how doctors are remunerated at different

:20:15. > :20:18.times. The government says we need the contract but has not really

:20:19. > :20:22.explained how they are linked and junior doctors are saying we work

:20:23. > :20:27.anyway at weekends and this contract is nothing to do with seven days, so

:20:28. > :20:30.I think the message has not been handled particularly well and has

:20:31. > :20:34.allowed the junior doctors to say we are not convinced by this policy so

:20:35. > :20:42.therefore we have major doubt about the contract. Stephen Doll, what is

:20:43. > :20:49.the situation now for Jeremy Hunt? He, as the Health Secretary,

:20:50. > :20:59.negotiated this contract and now his situation is looking untenable? His

:21:00. > :21:02.position is not relevant in this. It is relevant. His position is

:21:03. > :21:06.relevant because many junior doctors say that it's Jeremy Hunt himself

:21:07. > :21:11.and was causing the problems here and actually, if he was removed,

:21:12. > :21:16.maybe they could make some progress. But we can't have a position where

:21:17. > :21:20.one part of the workforce of the NHS is going on strike because they

:21:21. > :21:26.don't think the Prime Minister has made the right appointment as

:21:27. > :21:30.Secretary of State for Health. This is an argument about the terms in

:21:31. > :21:35.which people, the junior doctors, are working under contract. I agree

:21:36. > :21:40.that it's a major distraction to be talking in this context about

:21:41. > :21:44.seven-day working. The exchanges between the junior doctor leadership

:21:45. > :21:50.on the leaked what SAP exchanges make crystal clear that this is an

:21:51. > :21:56.argument about money for junior doctors, nothing to do with the

:21:57. > :22:01.wider issues of the shape of services within the NHS and, in that

:22:02. > :22:06.dispute, this is what I think is unforgivable. Against the background

:22:07. > :22:11.of a long process that ended conciliation, recommended by the

:22:12. > :22:15.BMA, we are now seeing patients, the quality of service delivered to

:22:16. > :22:25.patients, put unnecessarily at risk at the choice of the BMA. Stephen

:22:26. > :22:28.Dobell, thank you. We are encouraging patients if they want to

:22:29. > :22:38.contact us for advice, to call the helpline. 0208, 429 999. And for us

:22:39. > :22:43.to advise them on how, obviously become do anything about providing

:22:44. > :22:47.an alternative to the surgery, but to advise them the best way to

:22:48. > :22:54.negotiate an alternative date should be cancelled. But we are acting on

:22:55. > :22:58.behalf of of patients to try and encourage all the bells and parties

:22:59. > :23:03.to try and sorted out as soon as possible. Thank you for coming in.

:23:04. > :23:07.An e-mail from Pauline, I fully support junior doctors, I have a

:23:08. > :23:11.number of health problems and often end up in hospital. Junior doctors

:23:12. > :23:15.do amazing work and the government should appreciate doctors before

:23:16. > :23:19.they look for work abroad. Who will look after patients then? Junior

:23:20. > :23:21.doctors are gone too far now, they have lost my support.

:23:22. > :23:24.Still to come: Donald Trump's wife, Melania, is suing

:23:25. > :23:26.the Daily Mail Online for alleging that she worked

:23:27. > :23:36.We'll get the latest from our own correspondent.

:23:37. > :23:41.This morning, Nicola Sturgeon will gather with her SNP MPs,

:23:42. > :23:44.MSPs and MEPS to begin talks about the road to a possible second

:23:45. > :23:57.It's now nearly two years since Scotland voted to stay in the UK

:23:58. > :24:00.55%. On September 18th 2014

:24:01. > :24:01.the Scottish people voted to stay part of the UK -

:24:02. > :24:05.55.3% voted to stay with the Union, A huge 84% of those eligible to vote

:24:06. > :24:10.turned out to have their say - the highest ever referendum

:24:11. > :24:12.turnout in the UK. Two years on, and Brexit

:24:13. > :24:14.on everyone's minds - what are the chances Nicola Sturgeon

:24:15. > :24:16.will call a second Referendum? And would the Scottish people vote

:24:17. > :24:20.differently now than In Edinburgh, is Adarsh Sekhar

:24:21. > :24:24.who voted for Independence in 2014, Judy Lockhart who voted to remain

:24:25. > :24:28.part of the UK and thinks there shouldn't be a second

:24:29. > :24:30.referendum at all. Asma Butt, who lives in Aberdeen

:24:31. > :24:33.but is in Salford this morning voted to stay with the UK in 2014

:24:34. > :24:38.but now regrets that. He voted for Scottish independence

:24:39. > :24:43.and says he would again Elaine Martay, is in Dumfries

:24:44. > :24:48.and thinks Scotland It was a Yes to independence

:24:49. > :24:53.for her. And finally, Fiona Grace

:24:54. > :24:56.is in St Andrews this morning. She voted to remain in the UK

:24:57. > :24:59.IN 2014 but says she would vote to leave if there

:25:00. > :25:10.was another referendum. Thank you all for joining us today.

:25:11. > :25:16.I'm interested first of all that you voted to stay just two years ago but

:25:17. > :25:20.you are regretting it. Tell me why. I wouldn't exactly say I'm

:25:21. > :25:25.regretting it, rather I feel like what has happened is people have

:25:26. > :25:31.been told that certain things would come as a result of voting to remain

:25:32. > :25:35.in the independence referendum and less than two years later, things

:25:36. > :25:41.actually changed and they changed a lot worse. I feel like that was the

:25:42. > :25:47.result of unfortunately Conservative MPs coming up to Scotland, telling

:25:48. > :25:51.us one thing and then going back down south, having a general

:25:52. > :25:56.election and deciding, actually, to save our own party we need to put

:25:57. > :25:59.the Scottish people to one side. I think it was a massive error of

:26:00. > :26:04.judgment on David Cameron 's part. And it is why eventually led to his

:26:05. > :26:09.exit from number ten and I think that's why, now Scotland is in a

:26:10. > :26:15.position again where we can ask the people, do you still feel the way

:26:16. > :26:23.you felt two years ago? You effectively feel like to? You were

:26:24. > :26:28.nodding your head. Yes, I think we were lied to all the time.

:26:29. > :26:36.Especially by the Tories. Explain more. Many people would say actually

:26:37. > :26:39.they came out, said there would be more autonomy for Scotland, they

:26:40. > :26:47.haven't gone back on that, so why do you feel lied to? Because they

:26:48. > :26:51.seemed to really make it very frightening to people that the

:26:52. > :27:04.economy would collapse, that we would not be allowed to have our own

:27:05. > :27:09.money. It is all terribly exaggerated. It was also very

:27:10. > :27:16.exaggerated in the media about the amount of violence and hatred going

:27:17. > :27:21.on during the whole referendum when, in fact, it is extremely civilised.

:27:22. > :27:28.And the only person who made that clear was Johnson oh. I can see Judy

:27:29. > :27:36.is pulling faces -- Johnson oh. Speak directly to a layman. I live

:27:37. > :27:42.in Glasgow and was a lot of violence in Glasgow, as somebody supporting

:27:43. > :27:45.remaining in the UK, I felt like I got a lot of abuse and I know a lot

:27:46. > :27:49.of people who would tell people they were voting for independence just

:27:50. > :27:55.because they didn't want to face abuse. Glasgow has its own

:27:56. > :27:59.particular problems and it isn't representative of the whole of

:28:00. > :28:06.Scotland. We have got the largest section of voters. But still not the

:28:07. > :28:10.whole of Scotland. While you can't sailor was no violence when I

:28:11. > :28:15.experienced it. Certainly I wasn't exposed to any. I'm keen for you all

:28:16. > :28:29.to speak to one another. Fiona, tell us your thoughts. In terms of

:28:30. > :28:34.violence, it tore families apart. Personally, I voted to remain in the

:28:35. > :28:38.UK because I wanted to be part of an outward looking country, not a

:28:39. > :28:48.separatist one. The deal-breaker for me was remaining in the EU. I very

:28:49. > :28:52.much agree that I felt lied to. The political landscape has changed

:28:53. > :28:56.entirely. So I feel a second referendum is important so the

:28:57. > :29:04.people of Scotland's voice can be heard. They both reflect a lot of

:29:05. > :29:09.thoughts of a lot of friends of mine who also voted to remain and are

:29:10. > :29:14.more on the fence this time, because two years ago, it was very much, in

:29:15. > :29:20.terms of the life of Tories said, it was mainly around, in 2014, the idea

:29:21. > :29:25.was very much if you vote to leave, the EU won't take you in, they would

:29:26. > :29:28.be a lot of uncertainty were as now that has flipped and there's a lot

:29:29. > :29:33.of uncertainty in Britain right now, and suddenly, an independent

:29:34. > :29:40.Scotland seems much more likely to be in the EU than Britain would, so

:29:41. > :29:44.that the main issue. In justice and lies people might be referring to. I

:29:45. > :29:47.don't think that's fair to call that lies because David Cameron campaign

:29:48. > :29:51.to stay in and many people said he was quite shocked when there was a

:29:52. > :29:55.Brexit vote, so I'm not sure it's fair to say it's alive. I think

:29:56. > :29:58.maybe lie is the wrong word, but you can't deny the landscape has

:29:59. > :30:06.changed. Especially given that Scotland voted 60% to stay in, so I

:30:07. > :30:08.don't know if it's the media but the appetite for a new referendum is

:30:09. > :30:15.definitely there because of those changes in terms and a lot of

:30:16. > :30:16.friends are agreeing with that. I want to bring in Abdul because he's

:30:17. > :30:29.not had a say. Go ahead, Abdul. The thing about violence, I was at a

:30:30. > :30:34.few gatherings at George Square in Glasgow and there was violence

:30:35. > :30:37.there, but it wasn't certainly from the Yes side. I remember

:30:38. > :30:44.particularly there was like a certain football club was playing at

:30:45. > :30:49.the time and then after a football match they all gathered. The police

:30:50. > :30:52.cordoned a tough. It was kind of scarupy but it certainly wasn't from

:30:53. > :30:56.the Yes side there was violence. Even on the day of the referendum,

:30:57. > :30:59.so again it was very peaceful. There was music playing, that kind of

:31:00. > :31:04.stuff, but as soon as the result started to come in the violence

:31:05. > :31:08.started to happen and you seen again it was actually the same group of

:31:09. > :31:15.people that were doing the violence. It was actually those who voted to

:31:16. > :31:18.Remain in the UK, if I am honest. A couple of points, the first about

:31:19. > :31:24.the violence, that was what we were talking about. In terms of the

:31:25. > :31:28.violence I think it's actually an arbitary line to draw, talking about

:31:29. > :31:31.violence as if it only happened with Remain voters and Yes voters. I

:31:32. > :31:34.don't think that's the case. I think what happened was it was an

:31:35. > :31:38.emotional debate. What we were asked when it came to the independence

:31:39. > :31:43.referendum was a question on how do you see your future, how do you see

:31:44. > :31:47.the future of your children and the next generation coming up? How do

:31:48. > :31:51.you understand that? The fact that 16 and 17-year-olds were allowed to

:31:52. > :31:56.vote added to that emotion. Actually it was the narrative that was being

:31:57. > :31:59.set which made it more emotional which then caused people to feel

:32:00. > :32:04.like actually I am being affronted, people are coming up to me and

:32:05. > :32:08.telling me that I am wrong or I need to shy away from actually exposing

:32:09. > :32:14.what my views are. Secondly, I really wanted to make a point about

:32:15. > :32:17.what Fiona was saying about being an outward looking nation and it's time

:32:18. > :32:20.to have a second referendum. I am a little bit on the fence as to

:32:21. > :32:25.whether we should have a second referendum. The reason for that is

:32:26. > :32:30.because I feel that if we do have a second referendum we are actually

:32:31. > :32:34.going to once again put the blanket over all the other issues going on

:32:35. > :32:40.in Scotland right now. We will again just talk about finances, talk about

:32:41. > :32:47.oil, talk about the fact that do we want the SNP to be the one-party of

:32:48. > :32:51.the nation? I think that's actually quite a problematic concept. What I

:32:52. > :32:55.think we should be doing in some respects I am torn, like I said, I

:32:56. > :32:59.think that we should really be focussing on the actual issues that

:33:00. > :33:03.are affecting people, like the fact that austerity hasn't meant that

:33:04. > :33:06.people in Glasgow, people in Aberdeen and the Highlands even feel

:33:07. > :33:10.connected to the central belt, especially Edinburgh. So, I think

:33:11. > :33:14.that we need to be looking a lot more broadly at some of the issues

:33:15. > :33:20.that have been quietened down in the last two years and meant that

:33:21. > :33:25.charity work has been put on the back burner for politics of the

:33:26. > :33:27.future. Everyone is nodding in agreement virtually as you talk

:33:28. > :33:32.about that as when you were talking about the emotion of the referendum.

:33:33. > :33:36.Fiona spoke about division with some families. Does Scotland really need

:33:37. > :33:40.another referendum? Isn't it a case of referendum fatigue? Judy is

:33:41. > :33:44.shaking her head. Scotland doesn't need a referendum. People should

:33:45. > :33:48.believe in democracy. Scotland voted to remain in the United Kingdom.

:33:49. > :33:52.Prior to a lot of us being born we also had a referendum, well, a vote,

:33:53. > :33:55.I think it was in 1979 for devolution of powers and that didn't

:33:56. > :34:00.go through either. What do people want? Third time lucky, best of

:34:01. > :34:04.five? The people of Scotland have spoken. We haven't a vote every few

:34:05. > :34:08.years because people aren't happy with something. When Scotland voted

:34:09. > :34:15.to Remain, we voted to vote in nationwide vote as part of the UK,

:34:16. > :34:18.so when Brexit came along we voted and it wasn't Scotland voted this

:34:19. > :34:22.way, the people of the United Kingdom voted and democracy said we

:34:23. > :34:26.should leave. That doesn't mean we should then have another vote on

:34:27. > :34:32.independence in Scotland. You can't throw your toys out of the pram.

:34:33. > :34:36.There is far more pressing problems in Scotland, the SNP or if the SNP

:34:37. > :34:40.were put out, whoever the party is, at the moment SNP should be dealing

:34:41. > :34:44.with education, NHS, there is loads of things. Yet they keep pushing for

:34:45. > :34:51.independence. Scotland doesn't want it.

:34:52. > :35:01.In regards to democracy, what you were saying about 1970, it was made

:35:02. > :35:08.difficult. You had the 45%, a certain amount of people had to show

:35:09. > :35:12.up to turn out to vote. In regards to the SNP pushing the referendum

:35:13. > :35:17.agenda, I am a card-carrying member of the SNP but many points I

:35:18. > :35:22.disagree with, but certainly the SNP are right now they're not focussing

:35:23. > :35:26.on the referendum. They have a plan... They've started saying that

:35:27. > :35:37.they're going to start looking out... They already have a strategy

:35:38. > :35:40.in place, it's one of of the responsibilities, they are also

:35:41. > :35:44.governing confidently in education and in healthcare and in trying to

:35:45. > :35:48.do what they can for finance, as well. Just to say that the SNP is a

:35:49. > :35:52.one-party issue is not fair at all. They are trying to do it, they're

:35:53. > :35:57.trying to do a job here. It's not fair to say they're focussed on the

:35:58. > :36:02.referendum. I think it's fair to say the statistics would say they're not

:36:03. > :36:05.doing a good job. Democracy has spoken and I don't understand why

:36:06. > :36:09.anybody should think they're arrogant enough to say they're view

:36:10. > :36:15.is more important than the majority? I agree. I think that it's not so

:36:16. > :36:20.much that we are saying that the SNP is a one-issue party. What we are

:36:21. > :36:23.saying instead is that the SNP has a really Goodway of being able to

:36:24. > :36:28.control the narrative in Scotland and be able to say that look at us,

:36:29. > :36:35.we are the strongest party both for Scotland in Westminster and for the

:36:36. > :36:39.party in Scotland. So, they have in terms of competencies, they look

:36:40. > :36:42.competent. That's actually a fault of the other parties. We are not

:36:43. > :36:46.trying to take down the SNP or anything like that. It's not to say

:36:47. > :36:51.that the SNP is a one-party issue. Rather it's to say that the other

:36:52. > :36:54.issues, like health, like education, like local Government, are actually

:36:55. > :36:59.being put down. They're being put on the back burner. They're not in the

:37:00. > :37:03.media. That's because the media listens to what the SNP have to say

:37:04. > :37:07.and the SNP like to make headlines about independence. It's not about

:37:08. > :37:10.them being one issue, it's about them being able to control the

:37:11. > :37:14.narrative and hide their record. I have a feeling you could carry on

:37:15. > :37:17.talking for another half an hour. Sadly, we have to leave it there.

:37:18. > :37:23.People have been getting in touch with us. A tweet says, absolutely

:37:24. > :37:26.not. They've had their chance. Do we have a referendum until they get the

:37:27. > :37:30.answer they want? The whole of the UK should vote about Scotland,

:37:31. > :37:36.otherwise it's a minority to get to decide whether the UK should be

:37:37. > :37:41.broken up. Still to come:

:37:42. > :37:43.Donald Trump's wife, Melania, is suing the Daily Mail Online

:37:44. > :37:46.for alleging that she worked as an escort back in the nineties.

:37:47. > :37:48.At 10.50, we'll get the latest from our own correspondent.

:37:49. > :37:51.There's a new warning about Zika virus with a study claiming that

:37:52. > :37:54.a third of the world's population is vulnerable

:37:55. > :37:59.including tourist hotspots in India and Indonesia.

:38:00. > :38:09.We'll talk to the director of a travel clinic very shortly.

:38:10. > :38:11.We know that children from poorer areas often lag

:38:12. > :38:13.behind their classmates in terms of literacy.

:38:14. > :38:15.Now a charity project in London is managing to narrow the divide.

:38:16. > :38:18.Called The Doorstep Library, teams of volunteers take books

:38:19. > :38:19.to children on disadvantaged estates, to encourage

:38:20. > :38:23.It's working so well, the charity wants to expand.

:38:24. > :38:27.Lesley Ashmall spent the day with the volunteers.

:38:28. > :38:35.Once upon a time there were some children who didn't have any books.

:38:36. > :38:38.But then some strangers came knocking on their doors

:38:39. > :38:50.We are Doorstep Library and we are a charity in West London

:38:51. > :38:55.that takes books to children living in disadvantaged areas to inspire

:38:56. > :39:00.a love of reading and show children that books are an enjoyable

:39:01. > :39:08.Armed with second-hand and newly bought books,

:39:09. > :39:11.volunteers spend their evenings in poorer areas

:39:12. > :39:16.encouraging parents and children to read.

:39:17. > :39:21.And they are seeing remarkable results.

:39:22. > :39:25.I like books because they let you read properly.

:39:26. > :39:32.And has your reading improved since you started reading books?

:39:33. > :39:41.I don't know why I'm going to say this but I can't read

:39:42. > :39:48.You're reading this book, aren't you?

:39:49. > :39:56.So you are learning to read with the pictures in the book?

:39:57. > :39:59.Do you struggle with reading at school when other

:40:00. > :40:04.Is it quite difficult when other

:40:05. > :40:26.She was born with three holes in her heart so she's struggled

:40:27. > :40:37.So, when they come and read to her now, it's brilliant.

:40:38. > :40:42.She's gone up a level in her reading.

:40:43. > :40:44.And her confidence has got so much more.

:40:45. > :40:49.The same people come every Tuesday, and she enjoys it.

:40:50. > :40:52.She sits at the door waiting for them now.

:40:53. > :41:05.A recent Save The Children study showed that four out of ten children

:41:06. > :41:10.from poorer areas can't read well when they go to secondary school.

:41:11. > :41:14.But it is not always because of a lack of ambition.

:41:15. > :41:18.It has not taken the charity long to convince parents

:41:19. > :41:22.We visit the same families each week.

:41:23. > :41:28.Because the parents build up trust, we start getting them

:41:29. > :41:31.involved as well, and that's really our unique point,

:41:32. > :41:40.You are a volunteer, Allyson.

:41:41. > :41:42.You are one of many, there are about 50 of you.

:41:43. > :41:50.The fact it is so informal with the families.

:41:51. > :41:55.You can also over time see progress in the children.

:41:56. > :41:57.It's such pleasure, pulling out of a rucksack something

:41:58. > :42:11.The older girls are reading chapter books, but earlier chapter books,

:42:12. > :42:18.Many of the families on this estate don't speak English as their first

:42:19. > :42:21.language but that is not holding back the children.

:42:22. > :42:51.That was a big tongue twister, wasn't it?

:42:52. > :43:02.Do your teachers think you are good at reading now?

:43:03. > :43:09.Then we went with frog who jumped up on a lily pad and jumped up

:43:10. > :43:14.We should read because it helps you talk.

:43:15. > :43:22.And that is what is called the good news story.

:43:23. > :43:37.And you can share Lesley's film or watch again via our website -

:43:38. > :43:45.We've been reporting this morning that a third of the world's

:43:46. > :43:47.population could be at risk from Zika virus.

:43:48. > :43:49.It's the latest virus pandemic warning that's causing travellers

:43:50. > :43:52.A study found that India, Indonesia and Nigeria are some

:43:53. > :43:58.The first outbreak of the mosquito-borne disease was last

:43:59. > :44:01.year in Brazil, and since then, it's spread to other parts

:44:02. > :44:06.Researchers say it could be hard to prevent, detect

:44:07. > :44:09.First let's get more on this from our health

:44:10. > :44:22.Back to basics, remind everyone what zika is. It's a mosquito-borne virus

:44:23. > :44:26.and scientists have known of zika for the best part of 70 years. When

:44:27. > :44:29.you look at that, they know remarkably little about it. We are

:44:30. > :44:33.on a steep learning curve and that's because it's only really come to

:44:34. > :44:36.prominence as a public health concern in the last year or so

:44:37. > :44:41.because we have started seeing a lot of cases in south and central

:44:42. > :44:44.America, particularly in Brazil, and it's been linked to birth

:44:45. > :44:50.abnormalities, particularly underdevelopment of the brain in

:44:51. > :44:54.babies, the children of mothers who got Zika while pregnant. What the

:44:55. > :44:58.scientific community is trying to do is obviously look at prevention,

:44:59. > :45:02.find a vaccine, also look at cures, but also in the meantime look at

:45:03. > :45:07.where populations are vulnerable, who is at risk and where are they?

:45:08. > :45:11.What's what this Lancet paper has set out to do by doing some

:45:12. > :45:18.modelling, it's looked at the flight plans and patterns of people flying

:45:19. > :45:22.from Zika affected areas and it's looked at local populations, the

:45:23. > :45:27.density of populations, the types of mosquitos that could be around to

:45:28. > :45:30.carry the virus and on that basis have concluded in a worst case

:45:31. > :45:31.scenario really it could be up to 2. 6 billion people who could be

:45:32. > :45:41.vulnerable. So at an estimate? It's a serious

:45:42. > :45:46.piece of science but it's a exercise and researchers have acknowledged

:45:47. > :45:50.the weaknesses in their findings. There could be populations across

:45:51. > :45:54.the world of either had Zika would've been undetected in the past

:45:55. > :45:58.or had a similar virus which has given them immunity so they may not

:45:59. > :46:04.be vulnerable in the way people fear. That isn't dangerous to people

:46:05. > :46:10.who are not pregnant or wanting to get pregnant? If you and I got it,

:46:11. > :46:14.we'd be OK? There are no symptoms for the great majority and those who

:46:15. > :46:20.do develop symptoms normally get a rash, perhaps a headache and quickly

:46:21. > :46:26.moves on. But the problem is for women who are pregnant and if they

:46:27. > :46:30.develop Zika, of course the impact for their children in terms of their

:46:31. > :46:37.brain development. There are some instances also of problems, a

:46:38. > :46:40.disease called the Barry disease, nervous disorder, which can lead to

:46:41. > :46:45.paralysis that's been a small number of cases. Adam, thank you. Let's

:46:46. > :46:47.speak to some people in the studio. Here to talk about these finding

:46:48. > :46:50.is Dr Adam Kucharski, who researches Infectious Diseases

:46:51. > :46:52.at the London School of Hygiene And Dr Richard Dawood -

:46:53. > :46:56.the director of a travel clinic which advise patients

:46:57. > :47:05.travelling to these areas. Adam, first of all, if this kind of

:47:06. > :47:10.research helpful for people travelling around? Will it benefit

:47:11. > :47:15.people as they move around? Really, the main target of this research is

:47:16. > :47:21.health agencies. There's a lot of uncertainty at the moment about Zika

:47:22. > :47:24.in South America, recently in Miami and Singapore, and about where

:47:25. > :47:27.potentially it might go next so although this isn't saying they will

:47:28. > :47:32.be outbreaks in these areas, this potentially a lot of people at risk

:47:33. > :47:36.and agencies need to plan. For travellers, the main message is that

:47:37. > :47:40.this is a problem which needs to be monitored so if you are panning to

:47:41. > :47:44.go travelling and you are pregnant, looking to conceive, you should get

:47:45. > :47:48.advice on the areas you are going to, are they potentially having

:47:49. > :47:52.transmission at the moment? You say it's to help agencies with what can

:47:53. > :47:58.they do? We don't know that much about Zika. One of the big

:47:59. > :48:04.difficulties is diagnosing. A lot of the areas, they don't have good

:48:05. > :48:11.health patterns, the tests necessary to identify Zika, and the symptoms,

:48:12. > :48:16.fever, rash, quite generic, so to be able to confirm these are Zika

:48:17. > :48:20.infections and respond are important and some countries may not be able

:48:21. > :48:25.to do that. Are people considerably worried about this in your clinic?

:48:26. > :48:31.We see people heading to areas affected by Zika, particularly in

:48:32. > :48:34.Latin America, and some of them are having to reconsider their travel

:48:35. > :48:39.plans, especially if they are pregnant or wanting to conceive and

:48:40. > :48:42.that's fine. But also people who travel on business, who have

:48:43. > :48:48.compelling reasons to go, it's not always possible for people to modify

:48:49. > :48:52.the arrangement easily. They have to face some real difficult decisions

:48:53. > :48:59.about whether to go, when to go, how to plan, pregnancies, conception,

:49:00. > :49:05.sex, around travel plans, so it throws up some difficult dilemmas

:49:06. > :49:08.for them. I recently went to Rio with work and it was very clear, the

:49:09. > :49:12.instructions I had to wear long sleeves, trousers to my ankles,

:49:13. > :49:18.cover myself in insect repellent and avoid getting bitten. I normally

:49:19. > :49:21.attract a bite and I was not bitten at all, so you can protect yourself,

:49:22. > :49:27.but do you think the message is getting through? You can do a lot to

:49:28. > :49:31.protect yourself, and it's been shown using protection measures like

:49:32. > :49:36.insect repellent, covering up, can reduce the number of bytes by 90%,

:49:37. > :49:43.so that's a significant benefit. Bear in mind, in Rio, with the

:49:44. > :49:47.build-up to the Olympic Games, there was a massive effort to control the

:49:48. > :49:51.mosquito population locally and also it was the winter time, a cooler

:49:52. > :49:56.time of year. That's not always going to be the case. I just got

:49:57. > :50:00.back from Delhi, the end of monsoon season, rain everywhere, mosque Ito

:50:01. > :50:08.is out of control, and you can imagine, in a study, if the kind of

:50:09. > :50:13.environment where, with the best possible will in the world, it's not

:50:14. > :50:23.really going to be possible to control Zika if it was to hit that

:50:24. > :50:28.mega urban city environment. I think this is a huge wake-up call to

:50:29. > :50:31.public health authorities in such an environment and when you look at the

:50:32. > :50:38.situation in Singapore, where there has been in the past week, 40 cases

:50:39. > :50:44.and 80 cases are now 120 cases reported, and news of a case

:50:45. > :50:50.imported from Malaysia, Singapore is very self-contained and prepared for

:50:51. > :50:55.the arrival of Zika for many months, they have a fabulous health

:50:56. > :50:59.infrastructure and mosque Ito control and even in that environment

:51:00. > :51:05.it is spreading. I think we do have to be very concerned that this is

:51:06. > :51:11.something which is going global. We need to prepare ourselves for it, we

:51:12. > :51:13.need to spend money now to stop ourselves from having to spend the

:51:14. > :51:19.money later looking after damaged babies. Adam, we were talking to our

:51:20. > :51:24.health correspondence about immunity. How clear is it whether

:51:25. > :51:27.there is any immunity within a community exposed for long periods

:51:28. > :51:36.of time? This figure is making an assumption that Zika is similar to

:51:37. > :51:40.dengue fever, they come from the same family, so maybe there is a

:51:41. > :51:44.cross protection. If you have had one, maybe you will get protection

:51:45. > :51:50.to the other. There's a lot of variability, and could it be it

:51:51. > :51:55.depends what circulated previously. This is an area of research we are

:51:56. > :52:01.trying to understand. A vaccine, is that likely? There are vaccines in

:52:02. > :52:06.development but the timescale we are talking is many years. It's likely

:52:07. > :52:11.the initial trials in humans start next year, but of course, the time

:52:12. > :52:15.we need to demonstrate the vaccine works effectively isn't something we

:52:16. > :52:19.concede in the coming months. How worried are you as somebody who

:52:20. > :52:24.understands the Zika virus about these warnings? You look at the

:52:25. > :52:27.figures in this report, a couple of billion people and it sounds

:52:28. > :52:33.terrifying to people who don't understand Zika. Does it concern

:52:34. > :52:38.you? For the majority of people, Zika will be a mild infection. There

:52:39. > :52:42.are measures people can take to protect themselves that it shows is

:52:43. > :52:46.an ongoing risk. We've seen a lot of concern about that in America, and

:52:47. > :52:49.other countries which will have to deal with this in the future and

:52:50. > :52:52.authorities will have to commit resources to deal with it. Your

:52:53. > :52:58.advice to anybody concerned about travelling? Get up-to-date advice.

:52:59. > :53:04.The goalposts are constantly moving, this great information on the Public

:53:05. > :53:10.Health England website or go to a specialist travel clinic where they

:53:11. > :53:14.deal with people going to infected areas and we can give you the

:53:15. > :53:16.up-to-date information you need to decide what to do. Thank you both

:53:17. > :53:19.for coming in. Donald Trump's wife, Melania Trump,

:53:20. > :53:21.is suing the Daily Mail Online for libel after it published

:53:22. > :53:24.an article looking at her Our Media Correspondent

:53:25. > :53:35.David Sillito is here. So what are these claims that we

:53:36. > :53:45.know about? Essentially this is a story published August 20, and the

:53:46. > :53:49.two essential ingredients to it. One is about her immigration status into

:53:50. > :53:52.America for the it suggests that she arrived earlier than she said she

:53:53. > :53:58.did, which would have been politically embarrassing. Wouldn't

:53:59. > :54:02.it just for Donald Trump? The second one is an allegation that,

:54:03. > :54:09.essentially, she had been an escort many years ago. These have both been

:54:10. > :54:14.strongly denied. A statement from the when it comes to celebrity legal

:54:15. > :54:20.action in America says," false and of amatory statement about Melania

:54:21. > :54:26.allegedly being an escort in the early days of her career, all such

:54:27. > :54:32.statements are 100% false." Today we have on page 14 of the Daily Mail, a

:54:33. > :54:35.complete retraction. They say they never intended to say it was

:54:36. > :54:41.actually true, but these allegations were swimming around that they have

:54:42. > :54:44.made very clear today we did not intend to state or suggest these

:54:45. > :54:50.allegations are true nor did we intend to state or suggest she ever

:54:51. > :54:57.worked as an escort in the sex business. But that's not enough to

:54:58. > :55:01.stop this? Legal action, libel law, it is compensated business. In

:55:02. > :55:05.America, not only do you have to prove that something is untrue, you

:55:06. > :55:10.also have to prove something called malice. Essentially, you have to

:55:11. > :55:14.prove that the person who wrote it knew it was false at the time and

:55:15. > :55:20.that also they had a reckless disregard for the truth. Now, that

:55:21. > :55:23.makes it very difficult to bring libel actions in America as opposed

:55:24. > :55:28.to Britain, where you just have to prove, well, the publisher has to

:55:29. > :55:33.prove what they thought was actually true. So it's quite difficult to

:55:34. > :55:39.bring libel actions but you've got to remember Charles harder comes

:55:40. > :55:43.with an aura about him. He is the one who has been behind the Hulk

:55:44. > :55:53.Hogan case, which was about a sex tape, published by a website, and T1

:55:54. > :55:58.$140 million and put the website out of business. When he comes forward

:55:59. > :56:03.saying here is a $150 million claim, they take it seriously so this is a

:56:04. > :56:07.warning to every other news organisation, it completely closes

:56:08. > :56:11.down what is a feeding frenzy sometimes of these allegations. Was

:56:12. > :56:18.it just the Daily Mail which published this article? No, another

:56:19. > :56:21.blogger is cited in the case. He is based in Maryland, which is why this

:56:22. > :56:26.case is being brought in Maryland, and if you want to know the ups and

:56:27. > :56:32.downs of it, it means that it's possibly going to be taken on by a

:56:33. > :56:37.state court in Maryland and one of the little details of Maryland law,

:56:38. > :56:42.like many American states, is that you don't have to prove there has

:56:43. > :56:49.been material harm if you are alleging this is unjust.

:56:50. > :56:52.Deformation. Donald Trump is presumably angry about this? We have

:56:53. > :56:56.not actually heard anything from him. Furious. The only thing they

:56:57. > :57:01.refer back to the statement and it's pretty clear on absolutely furious

:57:02. > :57:07.about what has been alleged here, and we had a retraction today. This

:57:08. > :57:12.has possibly gone away in terms of anybody else in the public domain or

:57:13. > :57:17.talking about this, but certainly $150 million threat, they will be

:57:18. > :57:19.taking it very seriously. David, thank you for popping down.

:57:20. > :57:29.I want to read some comments coming in. This comes from Liana. I'm sure

:57:30. > :57:34.Scotland should get another independence vote as soon as England

:57:35. > :57:39.gets one as well. And has said, about the junior doctors, junior

:57:40. > :57:43.doctors who strike should be sacked. We would talk about whether public

:57:44. > :57:48.support would wane. Alex says, these are young professionals are striking

:57:49. > :57:52.because of their fears for patient safety. Jeremy Hunt should employ

:57:53. > :57:56.more doctors rather than trying to spread and overstretched workforce

:57:57. > :58:01.to breaking point. I totally support the junior doctors in their action.