15/09/2016

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:11. > :00:15.Theresa May gives the go-ahead for Britain's first new nuclear

:00:16. > :00:20.Hinkley Point C in Somerset will become the biggest

:00:21. > :00:26.The fashion industry contributes billions to the UK economy

:00:27. > :00:30.and with London Fashion Week about to get underway,

:00:31. > :00:32.we'll be talking about why it's become so important and how it

:00:33. > :00:35.directly influences what you'll be buying on the high

:00:36. > :00:40.Also this morning, the Government says that BBC stars who earn more

:00:41. > :00:42.than ?150,000 a year should be named.

:00:43. > :00:45.109 familiar faces would be on the list including

:00:46. > :01:02.Hello, welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:03. > :01:05.Today, with London Fashion Week just about to get underway

:01:06. > :01:08.we will be talking about the British fashion industry -

:01:09. > :01:11.not just its impact on what you wear, but its impact

:01:12. > :01:33.Are you one of the third of drivers who admit to using your mobile phone

:01:34. > :01:39.behind the wheel. So many people still refuse to switch off. We'll

:01:40. > :01:48.bring you an update on HMRC and your Tax Credits.

:01:49. > :01:52.Our top story today is that the Government has confirmed

:01:53. > :01:55.that it's giving the go-ahead to the controversial Hinkley Point

:01:56. > :01:58.nuclear power station in Somerset - but it's attaching new conditions.

:01:59. > :02:00.Full details will be revealed in Parliament this afternoon,

:02:01. > :02:03.but the Government says it's reached a revised agreement

:02:04. > :02:06.with the French energy company EDF which will build the plant.

:02:07. > :02:08.Well, let's get more on this from our political

:02:09. > :02:17.That has been on and off, what's happened now? It's all systems go

:02:18. > :02:21.for Hinkley and the reason for that bluntly is saying no was just too

:02:22. > :02:25.difficult because the concern is, if Theresa May decided to pull the

:02:26. > :02:29.plug, that would have, I mean dealt a body blow to our relations with

:02:30. > :02:33.the Chinese who're investing billions here, so didn't seem a good

:02:34. > :02:37.idea. More than that, I think there were genuine concerns in the wake of

:02:38. > :02:40.Brexit that if Theresa May said no, what kind of message does that send

:02:41. > :02:44.out to the rest of the world about Britain being open for business.

:02:45. > :02:48.There were concerns about the economy. Hinkley massive boost, not

:02:49. > :02:53.just for the local economy but for the UK generally, creating what,

:02:54. > :02:57.around 25,000 jobs. It would have raised a big question mark about how

:02:58. > :03:01.committed Theresa May was to pressing ahead with the huge

:03:02. > :03:05.infrastructure projects. We have got Heathrow, HSII coming down the lain,

:03:06. > :03:14.did it raise a question mark there? And there was the basic question, if

:03:15. > :03:19.not nuclear, then what? -- down the line. We have talked about North Sea

:03:20. > :03:25.oil, the winds are dodgy, can't rely on that, so what are we going to do?

:03:26. > :03:28.Are we just going to rely on questionable regimes and Russia to

:03:29. > :03:31.supply us with oil and gas. Faced with that, when you bundle all that

:03:32. > :03:34.together, I think Theresa May thought she's in a difficult place,

:03:35. > :03:41.there's not really a better option, she's going to give the go-ahead.

:03:42. > :03:45.More details this afternoon. Will most politicians support this or

:03:46. > :03:50.what? What is the background? Yes-ish, I think. I think the real

:03:51. > :03:56.sort of, if you like, catch in all of this, is the security issue.

:03:57. > :04:00.Theresa May, as we know, one of her big issues is security. It comes

:04:01. > :04:05.from her Home Secretary background. She was clearly nervous about the

:04:06. > :04:10.Chinese having a role in our nuclear industry and in particular building

:04:11. > :04:16.a Chinese only nuclear power station at Bradwell in Essex. The Government

:04:17. > :04:18.today's come up with what they regard as conditions to reassure

:04:19. > :04:22.people on the security front. I think there'll be an argument over

:04:23. > :04:27.that as to whether that's all just window dressing. It amounts to

:04:28. > :04:31.nothing maybe, because the security conditions, what they basically

:04:32. > :04:35.amount to is that, for future deals and nuclear agreements, the

:04:36. > :04:39.Government can block them if they are unhappy as to who these nuclear

:04:40. > :04:44.plants are being sold to. That's a future deal so it doesn't affect the

:04:45. > :04:50.current deal at Hinkley and it doesn't affect the current deal at

:04:51. > :04:53.Bradwell. This was Greg Clark, the Business Secretary this morning

:04:54. > :04:55.telling me why he believed the security conditions would make a

:04:56. > :05:01.difference. I think it was right for a new

:05:02. > :05:08.Government to look seriously at all the components of the deal and what

:05:09. > :05:12.we have decided is that for critical infrastructure generally, we want to

:05:13. > :05:18.make sure that our powers in this country are comparable to those of

:05:19. > :05:21.others to be able to check that national security considerations are

:05:22. > :05:28.taken into account. What we have done here in Hinkley is required

:05:29. > :05:30.that the EDF, the principal operator, guarantees, makes a

:05:31. > :05:34.commitment that they won't dispose of their stake without the

:05:35. > :05:41.Government's consent unless and million the plant is built and, in

:05:42. > :05:47.future, all other nuclear stations will be subject to the same regime

:05:48. > :05:52.-- unless and until. Here is the question pundits will be asking, has

:05:53. > :05:55.Theresa May blinked because she scrapped the original announcement

:05:56. > :06:00.saying she wanted more time. She marched us up to the hill pretty

:06:01. > :06:06.much saying I've got to check this out. People will now question how

:06:07. > :06:07.has she marched us down the hill and done pretty much the deal which

:06:08. > :06:12.David Cameron did. Thank you very much for the moment.

:06:13. > :06:16.Simon Jack is here. How much is this going to cost? It's going to cost

:06:17. > :06:21.?18 billion is the estimate. The good news is, we are not paying for

:06:22. > :06:24.that. EDF and the Chinese are stumping up all of that money so

:06:25. > :06:28.they are going to bear the cost of production. The bad news is the

:06:29. > :06:32.electricity it produces is much more expensive than we are paying at the

:06:33. > :06:39.moment so in effect we are subsidising it so we could see

:06:40. > :06:43.something of a rise in the electricity. The Chinese in a way

:06:44. > :06:48.saved this project. It was going nowhere. EDF didn't have enough cash

:06:49. > :06:51.to build this. The Chinese said we'll give you a third of the money

:06:52. > :06:58.but on the understanding we get to build one in a couple of reactors'

:06:59. > :07:01.time, we get our own built, Chinese designed and run reactor, that

:07:02. > :07:05.British kite mark on a Chinese reactor, they could sell it all

:07:06. > :07:09.around the world. That's the big prize for them and yes, with the

:07:10. > :07:17.strings attached that could really strangle the deal. So it still might

:07:18. > :07:21.not be built? What I mean is that if the China think this new legal

:07:22. > :07:25.frameworks amount to an understanding that they could build

:07:26. > :07:29.that and that was a guarantee, they may look at it. They are not that

:07:30. > :07:33.interested in Hinkley. They want one of their reactors here are British

:07:34. > :07:37.approval which they could then sell around the world. I think it's going

:07:38. > :07:40.to be interesting to see the Chinese' reaction to this because

:07:41. > :07:47.they say it's about foreign Government. They don't want to say,

:07:48. > :07:51.we don't trust you. Their reaction is key, if they think they are being

:07:52. > :07:55.told you haven't got a guarantee about Bradwell, they could still

:07:56. > :07:56.reconsider. We have to be a bit careful about saying this will get

:07:57. > :08:00.built. Thank you very much.

:08:01. > :08:03.The care system in England is failing to meet the needs

:08:04. > :08:05.of an increasing number of vulnerable older people.

:08:06. > :08:07.The support they currently receive is dependent on where they live

:08:08. > :08:17.Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:08:18. > :08:25.The care system in England is failing to meet the needs

:08:26. > :08:28.of an increasing number of vulnerable older people.

:08:29. > :08:31.The support they currently receive is dependent on where they live

:08:32. > :08:39.Here's our social affairs correspondent, Alison Holt.

:08:40. > :08:44.Ann and Cyril Thomas find increasingly they need help at home.

:08:45. > :08:47.He has Parkinson's and memory loss, she has problems getting about.

:08:48. > :08:50.Family help a lot, but after she had to go to hospital, the asked

:08:51. > :08:53.They found care workers struggling with caseloads.

:08:54. > :08:55.Sometimes they're given so many people to care for,

:08:56. > :08:58.you don't know what time you're going to have someone

:08:59. > :09:00.coming to put you to bed, get you up in the morning.

:09:01. > :09:05.And today's report by two leading think tanks says the social care

:09:06. > :09:08.system which helps people with such things as washing,

:09:09. > :09:13.It points to ongoing cuts to council care budgets,

:09:14. > :09:16.a growing shortage of the care staff needed to support an ageing

:09:17. > :09:20.population, and it concludes even large home-care

:09:21. > :09:29.Two of the largest national providers of home care in the last

:09:30. > :09:31.year have pulled out of local authority contracts.

:09:32. > :09:34.Many more providers are handing contracts back to

:09:35. > :09:39.And the situation now is perilous, quite frankly.

:09:40. > :09:42.You miss not being able to do your garden, don't you?

:09:43. > :09:44.The Department of Health says it recognises the pressures,

:09:45. > :09:47.but insists it has significantly increased the money available

:09:48. > :09:50.to local authorities to help provide affordable, dignified care.

:09:51. > :10:04.You can find out the cost of care in your area by using the BBC's

:10:05. > :10:08.You enter your postcode, local council name or Northern Ireland

:10:09. > :10:12.health board and it will bring up how much an hour of homecare costs,

:10:13. > :10:16.and information about the fees charged in residential

:10:17. > :10:22.The BBC will have to reveal the salary details of all employees

:10:23. > :10:26.and presenters paid more than ?150,000 a year,

:10:27. > :10:32.The proposal is part of the draft for a new BBC charter which will be

:10:33. > :10:37.The BBC had argued against the change, saying it would make it

:10:38. > :10:43.Vulnerable victims and witnesses of crime in England and Wales

:10:44. > :10:48.will no longer have to appear in court, under new plans to roll

:10:49. > :10:56.The cross-examinations will be recorded and played during the trial

:10:57. > :10:59.sparing both victims and witnesses the stress of reliving traumatic

:11:00. > :11:04.Under the shake-up, more minor offences will also be dealt

:11:05. > :11:08.A new row has broken out in the Labour Party over a list

:11:09. > :11:11.of MPs accused of "abuse" towards the leader Jeremy

:11:12. > :11:15.Two MPs have made formal complaints after they were named

:11:16. > :11:18.on the list, which was compiled by Mr Corbyn's team.

:11:19. > :11:21.Deputy leader Tom Watson, who also featured on the list,

:11:22. > :11:35.The number of drivers admitting to using a mobile phone while behind

:11:36. > :11:39.the wheel has risen to nearly a third, according to

:11:40. > :11:41.Research from motoring organisation the RAC,

:11:42. > :11:44.has found 31 percent of drivers admitted using their phone,

:11:45. > :11:48.According to the Department for Transport, 21 people

:11:49. > :11:57.were killed in 2014 by drivers who were distracted by their mobile.

:11:58. > :12:06.Five Russians are trapped in a cave in the Arctic surrounded by polar

:12:07. > :12:11.bears. A helicopter has delivered fresh supplies, including flares to

:12:12. > :12:17.try to scare the bears away. A soologist explained what was going

:12:18. > :12:22.on. These people are in a small hut or cabin trying to do some work

:12:23. > :12:28.there and they are in an area that's always been occupied by polar bears.

:12:29. > :12:31.Over the last several years, the sea ice has been less and less available

:12:32. > :12:36.and melting earlier in the spring and coming back later in the fall

:12:37. > :12:48.and, over the last 30 years, these bears are contending with about 55

:12:49. > :12:57.days of less sea ice. Bears can only catch their food. They have food in

:12:58. > :13:00.their huts and they are cooking. They have attractive smells there

:13:01. > :13:08.that might bring bears around. If you are a bunch of hungry bears and

:13:09. > :13:09.the only thing that smells of food is humans, that's where you are

:13:10. > :13:30.going to go. The number of drivers admitting

:13:31. > :13:33.to using a mobile phone while behind the wheel has risen to nearly

:13:34. > :13:36.a third, according to Research from motoring

:13:37. > :13:38.organisation the RAC, has found 31 percent of drivers

:13:39. > :13:40.admitted using their phone, According to the Department

:13:41. > :13:44.for Transport, 21 people were killed in 2014 by drivers

:13:45. > :13:56.who were distracted by their mobile. Now some sport. Paralympics GB have

:13:57. > :14:03.broken more records. They have beaten the total number of medals

:14:04. > :14:08.they won at London 2012, making 2016 the best ever performance. Take a

:14:09. > :14:15.deep breath before these success stories. Hannah Cockroft clinched

:14:16. > :14:19.the T 34, 400 metre title in world record time. The 24-year-old had

:14:20. > :14:25.already won the 100 metres at the weekend. Can she make it three in a

:14:26. > :14:33.row when she competes tomorrow? In the pool, Hannah Russell swam to S

:14:34. > :14:39.12 and won the gold. A dominant race by her, she touched home almost six

:14:40. > :14:47.seconds ahead of her nearest rival. British one twos also in the SB

:14:48. > :15:00.14100 metre breaststroke. Earlier in the day, Sarah Storey won

:15:01. > :15:08.the 13th gold of her career. Time trial gold picked up. Kadeena

:15:09. > :15:13.Cox became the first to win medals in two different sports. She

:15:14. > :15:17.followed up her gold in cycling with a T 38400 metre title on the track

:15:18. > :15:25.and celebration dance moves there on the podium.

:15:26. > :15:34.What a day, Para GB have a total of 95 medals from Rio 2016, 43 gold,

:15:35. > :15:38.incredible. The Russian hackers have struck

:15:39. > :15:43.again, Sir Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome this time?

:15:44. > :15:48.Yes, they call themselves Fancied Their and have released their second

:15:49. > :15:53.set of files including the two cyclists. It is important to stress

:15:54. > :15:56.there is no suggestion that the athletes are involved in any

:15:57. > :16:05.wrongdoing, the information released is mostly therapeutic and related to

:16:06. > :16:18.their medical needs. It is believed to hacks are retaliation for

:16:19. > :16:21.Russia's ban due to doping but the Russian authorities have denied any

:16:22. > :16:27.involvement. Chris Froome has released a statement which says, I

:16:28. > :16:30.have openly discussed these things with the media and have no issues

:16:31. > :16:35.with the leaks, which only confirm my statements. I have twice used a T

:16:36. > :16:42.U E for exasperated asthma, the last time was in 2014.

:16:43. > :16:47.Let's talk about Leicester, what an astonishing start to their Champions

:16:48. > :16:50.League campaign, their first ever. Yes, an historic first win for them

:16:51. > :16:55.in the Champions League, the fairy tale keeps rolling on for them. They

:16:56. > :16:59.won against Belgian side Bruges, and it did not take long to get the ball

:17:00. > :17:04.rolling. Marc Albrighton scored their first shot after five minutes

:17:05. > :17:08.and how about this for a free kick? Riyad Mahrez cold in a beauty before

:17:09. > :17:14.the break and added another from the penalty spot in the second half, 3-0

:17:15. > :17:18.the Final Score. Manchester City swept aside pro-Russian munching

:17:19. > :17:23.blood back in their fixture. Rain forced the game to be postponed

:17:24. > :17:29.yesterday and the Germans might be wishing it had rained heavily a

:17:30. > :17:34.game, they were stumped 4-0, Sergio Aguero scoring a hat-trick. Not a

:17:35. > :17:39.great start for Spurs, a record-breaking crowd, in excess of

:17:40. > :17:44.85,000 at Wembley, saw them lose 2-1 to Monaco. Spurs are playing at the

:17:45. > :17:48.National Stadium because of reduced capacity as they rebuild their White

:17:49. > :17:53.Hart Lane ground. We will be hearing from the director

:17:54. > :17:56.of UK Sport to explain the success in Radio 4 Para GB.

:17:57. > :17:58.Thank you. As New York Fashion Week

:17:59. > :18:00.wraps up today, attention has moved to London,

:18:01. > :18:02.where our Fashion Week Big British designers Burberry

:18:03. > :18:05.will be there, as will Mary Katrantzou and Christopher Kane,

:18:06. > :18:07.who is celebrating 10 years Prime Minister Theresa May

:18:08. > :18:18.is hosting a reception for designers and industry insiders

:18:19. > :18:20.at Downing Street tonight. And it is not surprising she thinks

:18:21. > :18:23.it is important - the British fashion industry adds ?28 billion

:18:24. > :18:26.to the UK economy each year and Fashion Week itself generates

:18:27. > :18:28.?100 million in orders. So what does the industry offer

:18:29. > :18:31.to Britain and how does With British Vogue turning 100 this

:18:32. > :18:36.year, we have the magazine's deputy Also, Roy Luwolt, the co-founder

:18:37. > :18:40.of luxury shoe brand Malone Souliers, who is showing

:18:41. > :18:42.at London Fashion Week Hannah Rafter is 22 -

:18:43. > :18:52.she had to do seven unpaid internships until she landed her

:18:53. > :18:55.current job as a junior And Sophie Walker is the leader

:18:56. > :18:58.of the Women's Equality Party who have launched a campaign called

:18:59. > :19:01.#NoSizeFitsAll to keep consumers conscious of body image

:19:02. > :19:07.during London Fashion Week. Good morning all of you, thank you

:19:08. > :19:14.for coming on the programme. Let's talk about London and the impact it

:19:15. > :19:19.has on the UK economy. As he said, 28 billion, the fashion industry is

:19:20. > :19:25.worth 28 billion to Britain. Our exports in fashion wear alone was I

:19:26. > :19:30.think 5.6 billion this last year. I'm sure that figure will rise in

:19:31. > :19:41.the next year with the dollar. I think it is 880,000 jobs. 880,000?

:19:42. > :19:46.880,000 jobs connected to the fashion industry. Companies like

:19:47. > :19:50.Mulberry have got two factory is now down in Somerset, jobs in areas

:19:51. > :19:57.where there is low employment. I think the fashion industry here in

:19:58. > :20:00.London and in the rest of the country means that we are a big

:20:01. > :20:05.player on the world stage. Tourists flood from all over the world here.

:20:06. > :20:09.You are showing at London Fashion Week for the first time, here are

:20:10. > :20:14.some of your shoes. Tell the audience how much these might cost?

:20:15. > :20:18.Riyal interesting trend in that we serve a wide spectrum of the market,

:20:19. > :20:24.so if you look at the couture pieces, the red ones, each one of

:20:25. > :20:33.the shoes has a female name to it, that is a couture piece and that is

:20:34. > :20:39.6000 pounds. What?! You are joking me?! Who buys a pair of shoes for

:20:40. > :20:42.?6,000?! That was specially paid for Michelle Obama, so that is

:20:43. > :20:50.different, and it was a gift from the brand. Wow. Just to be clear, if

:20:51. > :20:55.you work... Have you sold any of these? No, we don't sell these, this

:20:56. > :20:59.special power we do not sell. This is something that would come in with

:21:00. > :21:08.a private order, a bespoke request or something. How can that be worth

:21:09. > :21:12.?6,000? It takes about six months to create the structure, every aspect

:21:13. > :21:18.of it is unique, and it is unique to the person wearing them. It is not

:21:19. > :21:23.something that can be produced as skill, it is impossible. The rest of

:21:24. > :21:30.these are an average price of 500 or ?600, those are the ones that would

:21:31. > :21:34.sell all over the world. Are we likely to see copies, Emily, of

:21:35. > :21:37.these kinds of shoes in the high street after Roy have shown at

:21:38. > :21:42.London Fashion Week for the first time? That is what tends to happen,

:21:43. > :21:47.designers parade couture stuff... The high street takes a lot of broad

:21:48. > :21:50.trends from what you see on the catwalks, the high street also is

:21:51. > :21:55.incredibly helpful with younger designers, they do a lot of

:21:56. > :22:00.collaborations, young designers struggle financially so the high

:22:01. > :22:03.street is very supportive back. I don't know whether these particular

:22:04. > :22:10.designs, you might see similar, but it is a lot of broad strokes, so we

:22:11. > :22:17.have got a lot of backless loafers, Gucci, you will have seen that in

:22:18. > :22:21.the high-street, similar. So, yes, you will see, a lot of what we see

:22:22. > :22:26.this weekend, you will see elements of it, inspiration, moving to the

:22:27. > :22:32.catwalk, I mean high-street, pretty quickly. How many weeks? Some can

:22:33. > :22:36.turn it around in six to eight weeks. Some designers are not too

:22:37. > :22:43.happy about that element of it... There are laws to protect them. But

:22:44. > :22:47.for the consumers, it is fantastic, to be honest! Hannah, what is it

:22:48. > :22:51.like working in the fashion industry? To get to a paid job you

:22:52. > :22:56.have had to do seven internships, unpaid work experience? I did all my

:22:57. > :23:03.internships as part of my university degree, so I chose a degree that had

:23:04. > :23:07.a placement year, so my university was a big advocate of working in

:23:08. > :23:11.fashion, they promoted paid internships but in my area, PR and

:23:12. > :23:17.marketing, there is such a huge demand for that area of fashion that

:23:18. > :23:22.brands and agencies don't pay in terms, but what I do say is they

:23:23. > :23:26.paid all of my expenses, all of my lunch was paid for, and I have

:23:27. > :23:29.several friends that also work in the industry as buyers,

:23:30. > :23:33.merchandisers, technologists, who, because there is a lack of people

:23:34. > :23:40.wanting to do those sorts of jobs, brands can pay them for that. But as

:23:41. > :23:46.my area is so highly, people want to work in that area, especially

:23:47. > :23:51.Fashion Week, every girl's dream, so while there is huge demand for it I

:23:52. > :23:55.think brands and agencies can not pay in turns. But I think it is

:23:56. > :24:00.slowly changing, I talk about internships on a daily basis and

:24:01. > :24:03.when I do the research so many more brands are saying that agencies pay

:24:04. > :24:07.the interns now because they are looking at new laws and there are

:24:08. > :24:12.new programmes out there from when I started two years ago. It is slowly

:24:13. > :24:19.changing for PR and marketing as well as other areas. There are laws

:24:20. > :24:25.in a company for more than one month without being paid. Correct. If the

:24:26. > :24:29.company wants to hold onto the talent, you are encouraged to take

:24:30. > :24:33.them on as a paid in turn four I think six months. Alternatively you

:24:34. > :24:38.have the option of hiring volunteers who can come and go as they please

:24:39. > :24:43.in terms of timing, so you cannot say they must work a minimum number

:24:44. > :24:50.of hours during the week... For nothing? Yes, because it can help

:24:51. > :24:54.experience if you are not able to pay them. Most people accept the

:24:55. > :24:59.principle of work experience, most people watching have done a bit,

:25:00. > :25:04.whatever area it is, it is just you cannot keep doing free work, can

:25:05. > :25:09.you? Although you don't regret it because it has helped you get where

:25:10. > :25:14.you are, Hannah? I don't regret it because the area I went into, I knew

:25:15. > :25:19.it would be top. Every interview was me against 20 girls. The experience

:25:20. > :25:22.I have had in fashion, interning at several high-street brands and

:25:23. > :25:28.agencies, has been invaluable and given me my work ethic,

:25:29. > :25:32.opportunities to now do freelance work for those companies. I went to

:25:33. > :25:36.New York Fashion Week and worked there based on my experience in

:25:37. > :25:41.London. It is who I am today and got me my job now so I don't regret it.

:25:42. > :25:46.Sophie Walker, leader of the Women's Equality Party, a view on

:25:47. > :25:52.internships in the fashion industry brand-newWe want to see a fairer

:25:53. > :25:55.approach to work. The retail industry employs predominantly

:25:56. > :25:59.women, it attracts predominantly women, and as a result it is

:26:00. > :26:07.predominantly women who are suffering from unequal pay and no

:26:08. > :26:11.pay. We are also very, very keen to see a switch up in the levels of men

:26:12. > :26:19.and women at senior levels, it is very interesting to us that only 40%

:26:20. > :26:23.of main womenswear brands have female designers at the helm, and

:26:24. > :26:30.when you look at senior executives, top executives, of fashion brands,

:26:31. > :26:34.only 14% are female so there is a huge inequality there. Tell our

:26:35. > :26:40.audience about your #NoSizeFitsAll campaign? The Women's Equality Party

:26:41. > :26:45.was set up about a year ago because we did not feel the other political

:26:46. > :26:48.parties were fully understanding women's needs and experiences when

:26:49. > :26:53.they thought about the decisions made and how we make legislation and

:26:54. > :26:56.look after people in this country. We have launched #NoSizeFitsAll

:26:57. > :27:00.because we want to have a discussion based around Fashion Week about the

:27:01. > :27:07.huge far-reaching influence of the fashion industry's obsession with a

:27:08. > :27:13.uniform the extremely small size. We are looking at the Sample sizes

:27:14. > :27:19.specifically, which are much, much, much smaller than the average size

:27:20. > :27:23.in the UK. Why is that an issue? Because the power of the imagery is

:27:24. > :27:28.significant, we sourced no fewer than 28 reports from the UK, Europe,

:27:29. > :27:32.North America, Canada, proving the link between media imagery and how

:27:33. > :27:38.we feel about our bodies, positively or negatively, and how when we feel

:27:39. > :27:42.negatively about our bodies it puts us at risk of eating disorder which

:27:43. > :27:49.is a major public health issue now. And a cost to the NHS. Precisely,

:27:50. > :27:54.there are 1.3 million people in the UK who suffer from eating disorders.

:27:55. > :27:58.About 90% of them are women and girls so it is a public health issue

:27:59. > :28:04.that disproportionately affect women and girls. It is costing the economy

:28:05. > :28:09.about ?1.6 billion per year in terms of lost productivity and health care

:28:10. > :28:13.costs. Roy, as co-founder of a shoe brand you are not necessarily the

:28:14. > :28:17.design but do you think people like yourself, a great influence in the

:28:18. > :28:28.fashion industry, take the responsibility of the images you

:28:29. > :28:30.project in magazines, advertising hoardings, so on, seriously enough?

:28:31. > :28:33.Indeed, and if I may start by pointing out a couple of things that

:28:34. > :28:36.were mentioned. The majority of my firm is ruled by women. My designer

:28:37. > :28:40.but also the people in the brand team, the people who lead the teams

:28:41. > :28:44.in product development, the accountant. I think there has been a

:28:45. > :28:48.big shift in the fashion industry, which is not to say it is healed and

:28:49. > :28:51.I agree with a lot of the points but at the same time we are now an

:28:52. > :28:56.industry that's not to support but propagates diversity, so it goes

:28:57. > :29:00.beyond just the image, that is a small part of what is a bigger

:29:01. > :29:06.problem. But it is a very powerful image. It is indeed, and to my

:29:07. > :29:08.point, our campaigns are always looking for something that is not

:29:09. > :29:12.mainstream in terms of the representation that we'd use in the

:29:13. > :29:17.models and indeed look books and all that, and it is all about

:29:18. > :29:22.understanding how to connect with a consumer who wants to feel something

:29:23. > :29:26.more emotive, which goes through all sizes and shapes, and, most

:29:27. > :29:30.importantly, from a physical perspective -- fiscal perspective,

:29:31. > :29:38.some people cannot afford that ?600 pair so we start from ?200, and the

:29:39. > :29:42.element of women being paid less, it goes to what products are preferred,

:29:43. > :29:46.that makes it inclusive for them. So I think there is a big

:29:47. > :29:53.responsibility that fashion plays, it is not entirely revolutionised

:29:54. > :29:57.but I think certainly there is a big acceptance of propagation of

:29:58. > :30:01.continuity of understanding, it is great to accept different types and

:30:02. > :30:04.ethnicities and all but. It is definitely time for fashion to

:30:05. > :30:11.evolve. The point we are making is we want to see next year on London

:30:12. > :30:15.Fashion Week designers showing at least two sample sizes, one of which

:30:16. > :30:19.should be size 12 or above, because when you start to change the idea of

:30:20. > :30:26.what is acceptable you lead the way in diversity and acceptance. At

:30:27. > :30:36.London Fashion Week we had lots of catwalks with four sizes up. It has

:30:37. > :30:45.become mainstream. It is not even a novelty any more. We shoot and

:30:46. > :30:51.accept... Models are different ages. But it is not mainstream, when we

:30:52. > :30:57.look at the images... It happens, she has been shot naked, in her

:30:58. > :31:02.complete beauty of natural... Sophie is saying it is not mainstream.

:31:03. > :31:07.There is increased diversity, very slowly, but what we are seeing is an

:31:08. > :31:14.exploration of opposite extremes. We are being shown an alternative

:31:15. > :31:20.version. I don't think it is exploration. It is seen as

:31:21. > :31:27.opposition, not a true exploration of the many sizes we are.

:31:28. > :31:32.Post-referendum, do you see any difference in sales, or is it too

:31:33. > :31:36.soon? I'm a business graduate and business man specifically. My

:31:37. > :31:39.interest in fashion comes from the strategies, as well as the brand

:31:40. > :31:45.elements which goes into understand why people want what they want and

:31:46. > :31:50.how to provide that to them at the right price and so on. It's

:31:51. > :31:53.psychological, Brexit. Quite a lot of people are happy about it,

:31:54. > :31:59.perhaps not in the fashion industry? At the same time, yes, it's going to

:32:00. > :32:03.affect us eventually, but one thing about fashion is it's the one

:32:04. > :32:15.goalpost that can move as flexibly as we wish it to, so we take the

:32:16. > :32:19.mantle on the whole and shift it. Part of the rationale of Theresa May

:32:20. > :32:22.holding this reception ahead of the start of London Fashion Week is to

:32:23. > :32:25.make it really clear, as she does every time she speaks about the

:32:26. > :32:30.referendum result, Britain is open for business. Correct. Absolutely.

:32:31. > :32:34.It's great she's holding a reception tonight. I think it's really

:32:35. > :32:41.important that we continue to grow our industry at home. We still do an

:32:42. > :32:45.enormous amount of manufacturing abroad, the past Government also

:32:46. > :32:48.provided huge grants to have factories here. There is a huge

:32:49. > :32:53.amount of talent up north. I think we have got to continue the funding

:32:54. > :33:00.here in the industry so that we are not sending... Absolutely. Creating

:33:01. > :33:04.jobs here at home. Creating jobs for Europe. London plays a role Paris

:33:05. > :33:08.doesn't play. London Fashion Week will not decline in any way, we'll

:33:09. > :33:11.just have to realise the challenge we have been give tonne make sure we

:33:12. > :33:13.continue to lead what is a big economy boost to the entire country.

:33:14. > :33:17.Thank you very much all of you. Still to come: The latest on the tax

:33:18. > :33:20.credit row and the Government's decision not to renew a contract

:33:21. > :33:23.with the private company responsible And searching for Purple Aki -

:33:24. > :33:31.we'll have a special report on the myths and reality

:33:32. > :33:36.of a Merseyside man who children Annita McVeigh is in the BBC

:33:37. > :33:47.Newsroom with a summary The Government has confirmed that

:33:48. > :33:53.it's giving the go-ahead to the controversial Hinkley Point

:33:54. > :33:56.nuclear power station in Somerset. Ministers have approved the deal

:33:57. > :34:00.for a new ?18bn nuclear power station in the UK

:34:01. > :34:04.but with new conditions attached. The plant is being financed

:34:05. > :34:07.by the French and the Chinese and the Prime Minister had

:34:08. > :34:21.postponed its approval Health experts have warned the

:34:22. > :34:26.social health care system is failing to meet the needs of the elderly. In

:34:27. > :34:30.a report, the King's Fund and Nuffield Trust say the local

:34:31. > :34:34.authorities support older people received was based on where they

:34:35. > :34:39.lived, rather than their need. The BBC will have to reveal the

:34:40. > :34:42.salary details of employees and presenters paid more than ?150,000 a

:34:43. > :34:46.year under Government plans. The proposal is part of the draft for a

:34:47. > :34:49.new BBC charter which will be published later today. The BBC had

:34:50. > :34:53.argued against the change, saying it would make it harder to attract

:34:54. > :34:56.talent. Vulnerable victims and witnesses of

:34:57. > :35:00.crime in England and Wales will no longer have to appear in court under

:35:01. > :35:03.new plans to roll out pre-tile evidence sessions. The

:35:04. > :35:07.cross-examinations will be recorded and played during the trial, sparing

:35:08. > :35:11.both victims and witnesses the stress of reliving traumatic events

:35:12. > :35:14.in open court. Under the shake-up, more minor

:35:15. > :35:18.offences will be dealt with entirely online.

:35:19. > :35:21.That's a summary of the latest news. More at ten. And the sports

:35:22. > :35:26.headlines now with Jess. It was another golden day

:35:27. > :35:29.for Great Britain at the paralympics in Rio Hannah Cockcroft

:35:30. > :35:33.won her second gold of the games, one of 9 titles for Paralympics GB

:35:34. > :35:36.on day seven of the Games. With 95 medals overall,

:35:37. > :35:42.they've now surpassed their London The World Anti doping agency has

:35:43. > :35:46.criticed a further leak of its medical files

:35:47. > :35:48.by Russian hackers. The latest batch reveals information

:35:49. > :35:50.about a number of British athletes including Sir Bradley Wiggins

:35:51. > :35:52.and Chris Froome. What a start for champions

:35:53. > :35:55.league life for Leicester. Riyad Mahrez scored twice

:35:56. > :35:57.as they beat Brugge 3-0 in Belgium in their first ever match

:35:58. > :36:01.in the competition. Manchester City beat

:36:02. > :36:07.Borussia Munchengladbach but Spurs And the ECB has announced

:36:08. > :36:11.plans for a new twenty twenty competition to run alongside

:36:12. > :36:13.the current T20 Blast. The new format will feature 8 teams

:36:14. > :36:17.and it's hoped it will rival the Indian Premier League

:36:18. > :36:19.and Australia's Big Bash. This programme's exclusive report

:36:20. > :36:31.that a US firm was wrongly stopping tax credits for thousands of people

:36:32. > :36:34.led to HMRC not renewing And yesterday in Parliament,

:36:35. > :36:40.the issue prompted an urgent Let's talk now to our reporter

:36:41. > :36:54.Peter Whittlesea who has more. Today there are executives from

:36:55. > :36:59.consent tricks coming in to talk about the issues they need to

:37:00. > :37:03.address. Yesterday, in Parliament, as you were mentioning, many MPs

:37:04. > :37:06.talked about the problems that their constituents had had. They also said

:37:07. > :37:10.that this programme had highlighted what a big issue it was and how the

:37:11. > :37:17.mistakes were affecting hundreds of people up and down the country. Why

:37:18. > :37:21.does it take the BBC's programme two days running to bring ministers to

:37:22. > :37:28.this despatch box? On Monday, a member of my staff got the run

:37:29. > :37:31.around between HMRC and Centrix on the basis that nobody would take

:37:32. > :37:37.responsibility. My constituents have spent hours on this. I think they

:37:38. > :37:44.need to involve the private sector in a sensitive issue like this, that

:37:45. > :37:48.does not work. What are HMRC and Concentrix now saying? For the third

:37:49. > :37:53.day, they haven't come on the show. We asked for an interview but they

:37:54. > :37:56.said: We recognise individual Tax Credit claims can be difficult for

:37:57. > :38:02.all concerned, we adopt a rigorous process at every stage to make sure

:38:03. > :38:07.we manage this responsibly and in full accordance with guidance set by

:38:08. > :38:13.HMRC. We asked HMRC for a third day in a row, they said: We want to

:38:14. > :38:17.assure customers that we'll prioritise cases and make sure

:38:18. > :38:24.they're processed as quickly as possible. We have decided nolet to

:38:25. > :38:29.extend our contract with Concentrix and HMRS is redeploying 150 staff to

:38:30. > :38:37.help with claims. Since we have come on air, sources close to this have

:38:38. > :38:40.told me that just before we did our report, HMRC and Concentrix were

:38:41. > :38:48.close to agreeing a new deal. Really?

:38:49. > :38:52.Yes, and what's more, sources have told me that Concentrix was only

:38:53. > :38:55.told an hour before HMRC told the press that their contract wasn't

:38:56. > :38:59.being renewed. That is why some staff in Belfast heard that

:39:00. > :39:05.potentially their jobs could be at risk because their contracts was not

:39:06. > :39:07.going to be renewed. Renewed through tweets from the BBC rather than

:39:08. > :39:15.through the company themselves. We'll be speaking to a Labour MP

:39:16. > :39:20.who says he'll sue Jeremy Corbyn after claims and counter-claims

:39:21. > :39:21.of bullying continue Chances are if you're from anywhere

:39:22. > :39:30.on Merseyside then it's a name Some believe he's a figure made up

:39:31. > :39:34.to scare children. Others, however, have

:39:35. > :39:36.crossed his path. Akinwale Arobieki, or Purple Aki,

:39:37. > :39:41.is a man with an obsession A mysterious figure,

:39:42. > :39:47.notorious across Merseyside, Arobieke has a string of offences

:39:48. > :39:50.to his name relating to his desire to feel the biceps of toned men

:39:51. > :39:55.across the North West. Ben Zand has been finding out

:39:56. > :40:01.more about him. A name that is whispered in the

:40:02. > :40:11.parks and playgrounds of Merseyside. Watch out or Purple

:40:12. > :40:27.Aki will get you. A bogeyman that nobody

:40:28. > :40:30.was really sure even existed. When I was at school

:40:31. > :40:34.we would all joke about him. You'd make threats saying

:40:35. > :40:41.he was going to come and get you and we'd laugh but we'd be

:40:42. > :40:44.a little bit scared. Even on a wet Monday

:40:45. > :40:50.night in July everyone Even on a wet Monday

:40:51. > :41:14.night in July everyone It's kind of like a ghost

:41:15. > :41:24.story almost that goes round the playground

:41:25. > :41:26.to scare people. He's a legend but

:41:27. > :41:28.when you see him... I seen him once

:41:29. > :41:33.in Birkenhead market. I've seen him in Lime Street,

:41:34. > :41:36.my dad works in Lime I actually saw him the other day

:41:37. > :41:40.coming down the escalator I was walking across

:41:41. > :41:53.the road and this big black And he said, I do,

:41:54. > :42:03.what gym do you train at? I told him and he said I train

:42:04. > :42:07.there, that's where I know you from. Let me just show you these murderers

:42:08. > :42:10.on trial at the law courts. I was like, I don't want to see any

:42:11. > :42:13.murderers, straightaway he turned to me and said, are you being

:42:14. > :42:16.racist, you don't want to come I was shocked, was like, me dad's

:42:17. > :42:20.from Egypt, I'm not a racist. We went in the law courts and this

:42:21. > :42:24.is where he gets weird. Went into a little tiny room

:42:25. > :42:27.so he said, take your top off. I said, I don't want

:42:28. > :42:32.to take my top off. He said why, what's wrong with that,

:42:33. > :42:35.you do body building, I'm into body-building,

:42:36. > :42:37.I want to see your muscles. He was stood in front of the door,

:42:38. > :42:40.I had nowhere to go. In the end, took me top off,

:42:41. > :42:43.he had me doing all these He's like, I want to see how strong

:42:44. > :42:48.you are, get me in a fireman's Sweating loads and I remember

:42:49. > :43:06.thinking, are you sweating? After I put him down,

:43:07. > :43:09.he wasn't in front of the doors, so I opened the door and legged it

:43:10. > :43:12.back to the train station, 2-3 weeks after this

:43:13. > :43:22.happened I was on the bike, Next thing he jumps out,

:43:23. > :43:26.grabs me, he's like, I brought my tape measure

:43:27. > :43:31.to measure your muscles. Tried to put it round me

:43:32. > :43:33.leg and that's when I In court he said his

:43:34. > :43:52.nickname is racist. He's been questioned by the police

:43:53. > :43:55.about muscle touching You have to go back to the 80s

:43:56. > :44:05.to understand how come Gary was a big lad, six foot,

:44:06. > :44:30.and he was absolutely adored football, constantly playing

:44:31. > :44:33.football, quite well And I think that's what Purple Aki

:44:34. > :44:39.liked, was his legs. To be honest, I didn't

:44:40. > :44:44.know nothing about him, never heard about him

:44:45. > :44:47.until he started harassing Gary. You are at the bus stop

:44:48. > :44:53.and there is no one there. And the next minute he is there

:44:54. > :44:56.in the bsu stop, right next to you and you are like where did

:44:57. > :44:59.he come from because you didn't see him coming,

:45:00. > :45:05.it was like he just appeared. Gary was absolutely

:45:06. > :45:10.terrified of him. Yeah, really scared,

:45:11. > :45:12.really, really scared. He'd be standing in the entry

:45:13. > :45:18.at the side of his house, so you wouldn't know

:45:19. > :45:21.that he was there and as Gary would leave my house and walk over,

:45:22. > :45:27.he'd step out the entry and Gary would go down the entry with him,

:45:28. > :45:30.and that's when he used to make Gary said he would

:45:31. > :45:33.get excited by that. That's why Gary went to the police

:45:34. > :45:37.in the end and got a harassment order, and the order was Purple Aki

:45:38. > :45:40.was not supposed to come over to Birkenhead, wasn't

:45:41. > :45:45.allowed over the Mersey. He was supposed to stay

:45:46. > :45:50.on the Liverpool side and he didn't. We got up on the Sunday morning,

:45:51. > :45:54.was a really lovely day. Gary had made plans to go

:45:55. > :46:01.with all his friends. And then the next minute

:46:02. > :46:12.I heard his mum screaming. Something to do with Purple Aki

:46:13. > :46:18.following him or chasing him. When he came out of the swimming

:46:19. > :46:26.baths, Purple Aki was at the entrance, Gary spotted

:46:27. > :46:31.him, he spotted Gary. Gary panicked because obviously he's

:46:32. > :46:34.been and snitched on him and got the police involved so Gary must

:46:35. > :46:37.have panicked and ran to get out And I think he tried to mingle

:46:38. > :46:42.in the crowd. Purple Aki followed him to the train

:46:43. > :46:53.station and he's just gone into panic mode and thought,

:46:54. > :46:56."I've got to get away," and his only escape

:46:57. > :46:58.would have been to cross the lines He got caught on the lines

:46:59. > :47:06.and got electrocuted. But it was overturned

:47:07. > :47:16.because there was no evidence he'd actually threatened

:47:17. > :47:21.or even touched Gary. Aki's defence was he was the victim

:47:22. > :47:24.of racism, he was just It's almost as if fear had killed

:47:25. > :47:35.Gary Kelly. Everywhere you went there

:47:36. > :47:42.was like writing all over train stations and walls, "RIP Gary Kelly,

:47:43. > :47:44.always remembered Gary Kelly," and obviously I think,

:47:45. > :47:46.loads of slanderous Growing up, I heard so many people

:47:47. > :47:52.pretend they'd seen him, Do you think they pretend that

:47:53. > :47:56.they've seen him or they I didn't even know

:47:57. > :48:00.he existed at first. I can't believe you didn't

:48:01. > :48:02.think he existed. I wondered if Aki was a bit

:48:03. > :48:07.of a victim in all of this. A big, black man in a white city

:48:08. > :48:12.with an odd obsession with muscles. She has moved to the other end

:48:13. > :48:28.of the country, and even now When I was about 13,

:48:29. > :48:35.14, going to the local park, you had to pass the forest,

:48:36. > :48:37.and they always said, Growing up it was a myth, I didn't

:48:38. > :48:46.believe it - I used to think We were outside the shop

:48:47. > :48:59.and drinking cider. It was like Mad Dog 2020,

:49:00. > :49:01.something like that, and we were hanging

:49:02. > :49:03.about and he turned up Everybody was like, "Oh,

:49:04. > :49:13.my God, it's Purple Aki." He's just purple and huge,

:49:14. > :49:22.no-one else like him. One day I was going home

:49:23. > :49:24.and Aki was trying to touch my brother,

:49:25. > :49:28.feel my brother's arms so I said to him, "I'm going to phone

:49:29. > :49:37.the police if you don't leave my brother alone, get away,

:49:38. > :49:43.get away from the boys, move." When I got home about half

:49:44. > :49:45.an hour later, bang, bang on the door and I looked out

:49:46. > :49:52.the window and he was like, "Come down here," and I was like,

:49:53. > :49:55."I'm not coming down." Put it through my letterbox

:49:56. > :50:04.and said, "You're BLEEP dead, you're dead, you're dead," those

:50:05. > :50:06.were his exact words. There was like six or seven police

:50:07. > :50:20.cars there within a minute and, yeah, he got charged with threats

:50:21. > :50:23.to kill against me. Aki was sentenced to two and a half

:50:24. > :50:26.years, but there was no When he got out, an extraordinary

:50:27. > :50:30.sexual offences order was made banning him from touching,

:50:31. > :50:32.feeling or measuring muscles. Loitering near schools,

:50:33. > :50:34.gyms or sports clubs, going into Widnes,

:50:35. > :50:40.Warrington or St Helens. What's it like being someone

:50:41. > :50:55.who sent down Purple Aki? To be honest, when I'd done it

:50:56. > :51:01.I was like, "Why the hell have I just done this,

:51:02. > :51:04.it is going to make my life hell," and I ended up moving down here,

:51:05. > :51:07.it changed my life completely. Just to be on the safe side,

:51:08. > :51:12.and that's 16 years later, you know? I tracked him down to an address

:51:13. > :51:15.in Liverpool and got a number So I got a letter

:51:16. > :51:22.back from Aki saying, "Could you please stop

:51:23. > :51:25.calling round to my home? You have my solicitor's

:51:26. > :51:28.name and number." It's odd to have heard back

:51:29. > :51:33.from a man who at the start I wasn't even really sure existed, and now

:51:34. > :51:38.I have something physical and real. This is a man who is known

:51:39. > :51:41.for harassing people and he sent us a letter saying to basically

:51:42. > :51:43.stop harassing him. A few months ago, Aki

:51:44. > :51:56.got the sexual offences The judge agreed muscle-touching

:51:57. > :52:03.wasn't a sex crime. He may no longer inspire fear,

:52:04. > :52:14.but he still haunts people. I didn't tell anyone I was pregnant

:52:15. > :52:19.until after Gary's funeral, The timing didn't seem

:52:20. > :52:26.right to tell people This is Jamielee.

:52:27. > :52:41.This is my daughter. For a lot of people it's a joke,

:52:42. > :52:46.he is a bogeyman, my boyfriend says people walk through town

:52:47. > :52:49.and if they see him they will take A lot of people aren't aware

:52:50. > :52:53.of what happened to my dad. It's a sickening dip in my stomach

:52:54. > :52:56.because that actually happens Do you think people

:52:57. > :52:59.know who he really is? Even from someone whose

:53:00. > :53:28.life he has affected, Wow.

:53:29. > :53:32.The Labour Party is caught up in a new row after Jeremy Corbyn's team

:53:33. > :53:36.issued a document naming MPs it claims have abused him and his

:53:37. > :53:40.allies since he became leader of the Labour Party. Mr Corbyn has defended

:53:41. > :53:44.the list, saying statement anybody made were made on the record,

:53:45. > :53:49.although his team had said the document was a draft which was sent

:53:50. > :53:55.out accidentally. Neil Coyle is the MP for Bermondsey and is among those

:53:56. > :54:00.criticised. Let's speak to him now. What do you think? From what you

:54:01. > :54:04.have just been saying, once again we see chaos and incompetence in the

:54:05. > :54:08.heart of the leaders of this. Jeremy clearly knew about this list, he and

:54:09. > :54:15.John McDonnell must have authorised it, and it is designed again to

:54:16. > :54:18.encourage abuse and attempt at intimidation of MPs. We are so close

:54:19. > :54:30.to the end of this leadership contest, people have the chance to

:54:31. > :54:33.end this permissive culture of abuse that Jeremy has helped create if

:54:34. > :54:36.they choose over in, and we can move on from this. I don't know what I am

:54:37. > :54:39.alleged to have done and yet my name has been thrown out and I have

:54:40. > :54:41.received a torrent of abuse overnight as a result. Have you said

:54:42. > :54:44.Audrey did something credible since last September? I nominated Jeremy

:54:45. > :54:48.last year, we have not had a debate, there has been no policy development

:54:49. > :54:52.led by Jeremy as leader of the party. My criticism has been around,

:54:53. > :54:56.what is it boaters need to see is focused on? What should Labour money

:54:57. > :55:00.be focused on? I have been campaigning to save a post office in

:55:01. > :55:02.my constituency this morning, voters need to see others on issues they

:55:03. > :55:21.care about every day. I read an article

:55:22. > :55:24.after the local elections in May with Jo Cox talking about what we

:55:25. > :55:27.wanted to see from the Labour Party and how to improve our electoral

:55:28. > :55:29.prospects. I suspect that might be it. I genuinely don't know what the

:55:30. > :55:32.accusation is, but I have never engaged in personal abuse. Before I

:55:33. > :55:34.was elected last year I worked for charities that tackled abuse of

:55:35. > :55:36.disabled people and I helped tackle gender discrimination in the

:55:37. > :55:40.workplace so I think my track record speaks for itself. What do you want

:55:41. > :55:44.now? I have let the Chief Whip, the party general secretary know I am

:55:45. > :55:48.upset, I let the leader know I am upset and wanted to know what I have

:55:49. > :55:55.been accused of. I asked if I could receive a written apology from the

:55:56. > :55:59.leader, this petty student politics, at least if it is retracted it will

:56:00. > :56:04.help, but I will be talking to a lawyer tomorrow, because this is

:56:05. > :56:08.defamation. I have been accused of abuse, that is completely

:56:09. > :56:12.unacceptable and so unprofessional. So you are considering suing your

:56:13. > :56:16.leader? Yes, and it would be the leader, not the party, because this

:56:17. > :56:20.has been issued by someone in his campaign team, so it is not the

:56:21. > :56:27.Labour Party. Suing him for defamation? Wow. It is the sorry

:56:28. > :56:31.state Jeremy has taken the party into, 30 to 35% of members have not

:56:32. > :56:35.voted yet because they are so disillusioned with what Jeremy has

:56:36. > :56:40.done to the party. They have the chance before polling closes to make

:56:41. > :56:45.sure we end this permissive culture, and in some ways, I have not

:56:46. > :56:50.experienced the worst abuse that MPs get, women MPs get far more abuse

:56:51. > :56:57.and Jeremy has failed to tackle it. We saw it after the launch of the

:56:58. > :57:04.anti-Semitism report. I have spoken to Mr Corbyn myself, and I, if I had

:57:05. > :57:08.more than two hands, I can count how many times Mr Corbyn has said, I do

:57:09. > :57:14.not engage in abuse, I do not condone abuse, this must stop. When

:57:15. > :57:19.he had the chance to speak in defence of a Jewish female MP who

:57:20. > :57:23.was being abused, he failed to do it, and it is that lack of

:57:24. > :57:28.leadership, that lack of control of the kind of support he has and the

:57:29. > :57:33.people he has incited to commit abuse that is part of the problem.

:57:34. > :57:38.How has he incited people to commit abuse? In failing to support her at

:57:39. > :57:41.that event, he encouraged it, in failing to ensure the momentum is

:57:42. > :57:46.controlled better and did not have this abuse and intimidation, look at

:57:47. > :57:52.this letter, this list, it is designed solely to cause more

:57:53. > :57:57.trolling and abuse and intimidation of the MPs listed. Go on the Twitter

:57:58. > :58:00.feeds of any of the MPs on the list and you will see the kind of abuse

:58:01. > :58:05.we have had to put up with as a direct result of being accused of

:58:06. > :58:07.abuse without any evidence of a substance, without any

:58:08. > :58:13.correspondence from the leader's office to me or my team. Without

:58:14. > :58:17.using words that could not be used on morning television, what sort of

:58:18. > :58:21.abuse have you had? I'm afraid I cannot repeat much of what I have

:58:22. > :58:26.received! Give us the sentiment behind the rude words? Probably the

:58:27. > :58:31.most polite is around being a traitor, but some of it is

:58:32. > :58:37.anti-mainstream media, saying I should not be talking to the BBC or

:58:38. > :58:42.sky about this. It is petty, nasty, most of it is a swear word and

:58:43. > :58:45.things so I will not repeated. Last time I saw myself on Twitter I was

:58:46. > :58:50.told off by my local members and I will not make that mistake again.

:58:51. > :58:53.Thank you for talking to us, Neil Coyle, Labour MP, considering suing

:58:54. > :58:56.the Labour leader. Your views are welcome, get touch.

:58:57. > :58:59.Coming up: New rules for courts in England and Wales could spare

:59:00. > :59:01.vulnerable witnesses from giving evidence live.

:59:02. > :59:10.Let's get the latest weather update with Carole.

:59:11. > :59:17.For some of us it has been a beautiful morning, for others it has

:59:18. > :59:21.been pretty foggy, as you can see from our weather Watchers picture,

:59:22. > :59:26.taken in Birmingham earlier. We have had quite a bit of fog and low cloud

:59:27. > :59:30.shrouding the east of the country into the Midlands, it is starting to

:59:31. > :59:34.melt away but it will be a slow process and on the east coast it

:59:35. > :59:38.will not appear at all. But there will be a lot of sunshine, showers

:59:39. > :59:41.in Northern Ireland and western Scotland, through the afternoon as

:59:42. > :59:45.temperatures rise we could see torrential downpours across central

:59:46. > :59:50.southern England. Temperatures up to 30, 31 in the south-east, the warmth

:59:51. > :59:52.spreading northwards across much of the UK today. Through the evening

:59:53. > :00:16.and overnight, we still have the showers, a weather front

:00:17. > :00:18.coming from the West pushes steadily eastwards, engages with the showers

:00:19. > :00:21.which reinvigorate them further so there is more energy in them. Again,

:00:22. > :00:23.torrential downpours, the risk of flash flooding. For most of us it

:00:24. > :00:26.will still be fairly muddy. Tomorrow morning, thundery downpours continue

:00:27. > :00:28.to edge eastwards, the risk of flash flooding from those. Behind it,

:00:29. > :00:30.whether coming from the Atlantic, fresher conditions, sunshine and

:00:31. > :00:33.showers, the rain slowed to clear in the far south-east, but what a

:00:34. > :00:38.change in temperatures, from 30 in London today to 20 tomorrow.

:00:39. > :00:40.Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme

:00:41. > :00:45.Theresa May gives the go-ahead for Britain's first new nuclear

:00:46. > :00:49.Hinkley Point C in Somerset will become the biggest

:00:50. > :00:51.building site in Europe - but critics are warning

:00:52. > :00:55.Using your mobile when you're driving - it's against the law

:00:56. > :00:58.but one in three of us admits doing it, according to new research.

:00:59. > :01:00.Campaigners say the punishment if you're caught isn't tough enough.

:01:01. > :01:04.We'll speak to a mum whose 13 year old daughter was killed by a lorry

:01:05. > :01:08.Alleged rape victims and other vulnerable witnesses will soon

:01:09. > :01:10.be spared the ordeal of appearing in court.

:01:11. > :01:12.Instead, they'll be allowed to record their evidence.

:01:13. > :01:16.Good Morning, here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom

:01:17. > :01:22.The government has confirmed that it's approving the controversial

:01:23. > :01:28.Hinkley Point nuclear power station in Somerset.

:01:29. > :01:30.Ministers have approved the deal for a new ?18 billion nuclear

:01:31. > :01:33.power station in the UK but with new conditions attached.

:01:34. > :01:35.The plant is being financed by the French and the Chinese

:01:36. > :01:37.and the Prime Minister had postponed its approval

:01:38. > :01:54.Greg Clark told the BBC about this. There are very, very important

:01:55. > :02:01.relationships here. It's important that when we are considering, as we

:02:02. > :02:05.are, a major upgrade of our infrastructure, especially in

:02:06. > :02:10.energy, that we have in place a regime that, for all investors, for

:02:11. > :02:16.all countries, allows the Government the kind of powers and scrutiny that

:02:17. > :02:19.other countries have. Meanwhile, Simon Jack said it would be crucial

:02:20. > :02:23.to see how the Chinese react to the new conditions.

:02:24. > :02:26.What they want is one of their reactors here with British approval

:02:27. > :02:30.which they can go and then sell around the world. I think it's going

:02:31. > :02:34.to be very interesting to see the Chinese' reaction to this. They say

:02:35. > :02:37.it's about foreign Government concerns, it's aimed directly at

:02:38. > :02:40.China. They don't want to say, we don't trust you, but their reaction

:02:41. > :02:44.I think to this is key, if they think that they are being told, you

:02:45. > :02:48.haven't got a guarantee about Bradwell, they could still

:02:49. > :02:49.reconsider, so we have to be a bit careful about saying it will

:02:50. > :02:52.definitely get built. Leading health experts have warned

:02:53. > :02:56.that the social care system is failing to meet the needs

:02:57. > :02:59.of the elderly - as financial pressures force councils to restrict

:03:00. > :03:01.the number of people they can help.In a new report, the Kings Fund

:03:02. > :03:04.and the Nuffield Trust say that the local authority support

:03:05. > :03:07.older people received, was based on where they lived,

:03:08. > :03:10.rather than their need. The BBC will have to reveal

:03:11. > :03:13.the salary details of all employees and presenters paid more

:03:14. > :03:16.than ?150,000 a year, The proposal is part of the draft

:03:17. > :03:22.for a new BBC charter which will be The BBC had argued against

:03:23. > :03:26.the change, saying it would make it The World Anti-Doping Agency has

:03:27. > :03:31.confirmed that the confidential medical records of five British

:03:32. > :03:34.athletes including Chris Froome and Bradley Wiggins have been leaked

:03:35. > :03:38.by Russian computer hackers. WADA said those behind the attack

:03:39. > :03:41.were "criminals" trying to smear the athletes' reputations in revenge

:03:42. > :03:45.for the exposure of Russian There's no suggestion of wrong doing

:03:46. > :03:51.by the British athletes. Chris Froome's just issued

:03:52. > :03:54.a statement; he says he's already discussed his asthma medication

:03:55. > :04:08.with the media and the leaks simply British tourists have been caught up

:04:09. > :04:13.in an explosion off the Indonesian island of Bali. A German woman was

:04:14. > :04:18.killed and 20 people injured when the boat blew up near a port at the

:04:19. > :04:22.east of the island. Reports suggest a faulty battery may be to blame.

:04:23. > :04:24.The Foreign Office is helping UK holiday-makers.

:04:25. > :04:27.is set to return to the campaign trail today days after being

:04:28. > :04:29.The Democrats' candidate for the US presidency, Hillary Clinton,

:04:30. > :04:32.is set to return to the campaign trail today days after being

:04:33. > :04:35.diagnosed with pneumonia.Last night, her doctor said the politician

:04:36. > :04:37.was recovering well and was "fit to serve as President

:04:38. > :04:42.At the weekend Mrs Clinton appeared to stumble while leaving an event.

:04:43. > :04:45.Her Republican rival Donald Trump has told a TV show he is healthy

:04:46. > :04:50.despite his age and being clinically overweight.

:04:51. > :04:58.I'm just about the same age as Ronald Reagan and Hillary is a year

:04:59. > :05:01.behind me. I would say based on my life, I actually, I don't know if

:05:02. > :05:07.this makes sense, I feel as good today as I did when I was 30.

:05:08. > :05:10.South east China's been hit by what's said to be the country's

:05:11. > :05:13.strongest typhoon in 70 years and it's sent a giant

:05:14. > :05:17.inflatable moon careering through the city of Fuzhou.

:05:18. > :05:20.Strong winds from Typhoon Meranti took the massive globe

:05:21. > :05:29.off its moorings and it bowled over everything in its path.

:05:30. > :05:35.It was installed for a festival which prominently features the moon.

:05:36. > :05:37.Perhaps a bit too prominently this year!

:05:38. > :05:51.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 10.30.

:05:52. > :06:09.A couple of comments about Neil Coyle beings on the list of those

:06:10. > :06:14.accusing MPs of -- Jeremy Corbyn is no bully, you, however, Sir, Neil

:06:15. > :06:19.Coyle are full of bull, one viewer says. London Fashion Week starts

:06:20. > :06:24.tomorrow. Theresa May holding a reception tomorrow. A tweet saying,

:06:25. > :06:28.I've been in the sector, still trying it hard to get a proper foot

:06:29. > :06:32.in the fashion door. The fashion industry can charge thousands for a

:06:33. > :06:41.shoe and still employs a non-paid worker. Thank you for those. Still

:06:42. > :06:47.to come, the salaries of BBC employees paid more than ?150,000 to

:06:48. > :06:49.be published. We'll talk about that later, and people using their

:06:50. > :06:53.mobiles while driving. Paralympics GB are enjoying

:06:54. > :07:02.their best ever performance at a Parlaympics, surpassing

:07:03. > :07:04.the number of medals Yesterday there were gold medals

:07:05. > :07:09.for Dame Sarah Storey, Hannah Cockroft and Kadeena Cox

:07:10. > :07:12.as Para GB won 9 titles. My colleague Nick Hope has

:07:13. > :07:27.been finding out. It's a brilliant Paralympics so far,

:07:28. > :07:30.four Paralympics for GB. I'm joined by UK Sports director of performance

:07:31. > :07:36.Simon Timpson. What do you put it down to? It's a athletes'

:07:37. > :07:42.dedication, commitment and hard work that's enabled this wonderful

:07:43. > :07:48.performance in Rio. Everybody was disappointed 4-4 years ago in

:07:49. > :07:55.London. -- four years ago in London. We have Riz tonne the challenge of

:07:56. > :08:03.increasing standards. It's been the most competitive Olympics ever, yet

:08:04. > :08:08.Paralympics GB have had a fantastic time winning lots of medals. --

:08:09. > :08:13.risen to the challenge. We have had bespoke packages, we

:08:14. > :08:19.have had an economy going with the English Institute of Sport that's

:08:20. > :08:23.provided more streamlined swim caps for the swimmers, we have worked on

:08:24. > :08:27.Richard Whitehead's prosthetics helping him win gold, so lots of

:08:28. > :08:32.things that make a big difference here inry wrote. At the start of the

:08:33. > :08:39.Games, everyone was concerned with the worries about funding cuts, but

:08:40. > :08:43.it doesn't seem to have materialised like that and the Paralympics have

:08:44. > :08:47.excel?ed The Brazilians have done really well. We have had an electric

:08:48. > :08:55.atmosphere and we have seen golds in almost every Rennes Jew we visitd

:08:56. > :09:00.for Paralympics GB as well. -- almost every venue we visited for

:09:01. > :09:03.Paralympics GB as well. You can catch the action on the BBC Sport

:09:04. > :09:07.website and BBC Radio Five Live. Chris Froome says he has no issues

:09:08. > :09:10.with the latest leak of confidential medical information,

:09:11. > :09:12.which he says only confirms His statement comes after Russian

:09:13. > :09:16.hackers revealed more medical records of athletes,

:09:17. > :09:19.also including Sir Bradley Wiggins, gained from the World Anti Doping

:09:20. > :09:24.Agency The hacked information mostly gained from the World

:09:25. > :09:26.Anti Doping Agency. details "Therapeutic Use Exemptions"

:09:27. > :09:30.allowing banned substances to be taken for athletes'

:09:31. > :09:32.verified medical needs. Froome says he's openly

:09:33. > :09:34.discussed his use of TUEs, saying in 9 years as a professional

:09:35. > :09:40.he's required them twice, There is no suggestion that any

:09:41. > :09:47.of the athletes are involved Leicester celebrated

:09:48. > :09:51.an historic first win in the Champions League,

:09:52. > :09:53.against Belgium side Brugge. It didn't take them long

:09:54. > :09:56.to get the ball rolling, Mark Albrighton scored their first

:09:57. > :09:58.shot, after 5 minutes. Riyad Mahrez curled

:09:59. > :10:02.in a beauty before the break. And then added another

:10:03. > :10:06.from the penalty spot Manchester City beat

:10:07. > :10:13.Borussia Munchengladback So - after pressing the pause button

:10:14. > :10:19.on Hinkley Point soon after taking office -

:10:20. > :10:22.Theresa May has now decided to go ahead with the project to build

:10:23. > :10:24.Britain's first new nuclear power But ministers say they have won

:10:25. > :10:29.a new agreement with EDF - the French company building

:10:30. > :10:31.the plant and have extracted what they are calling

:10:32. > :10:34."significant new safeguards". And the latest word from China -

:10:35. > :10:37.which is helping to finance the deal - is that it is willing to accept

:10:38. > :10:43.the government's new conditions. Well, let's get more on this from

:10:44. > :10:56.our Political Guru Norman Smith. After the pause, she's now going

:10:57. > :11:00.ahead with it, why? The stakes are too high. If Theresa May would have

:11:01. > :11:04.said no, it would have been a body blow to relations with the Chinese

:11:05. > :11:10.who're investing millions in Britain. There was also the concern,

:11:11. > :11:13.particularly pro-Brexit that if Mrs Neigh pulled the blueing, what

:11:14. > :11:18.message would that send out about the willingness to be open to

:11:19. > :11:21.business -- Mrs May. Question marks about the economic implications,

:11:22. > :11:26.huge project like this big boost not just for the economy but the economy

:11:27. > :11:32.nationally, did we really want to wave goodbye to 25,000 jobs, what

:11:33. > :11:37.would it have meant for other big infrastructure projects. We have

:11:38. > :11:40.projects on HSII, Heathrow, and lastly, there is the energy

:11:41. > :11:45.question, we have got to to something because we are running out

:11:46. > :11:50.of juice, and the fact is, we have closed the coal mines, and we are

:11:51. > :11:54.running out of North Sea oil. Government not so sure that with

:11:55. > :11:59.wind and wave you can really do the deal.

:12:00. > :12:04.Middle East or Russia for our energy supplies - faced with all that, I

:12:05. > :12:08.think Theresa May took one long, hard look and decided, no option but

:12:09. > :12:13.to give the go-ahead to Hinkley. What are the new conditions then?

:12:14. > :12:18.Here is the rub. Number Ten are beefing if up as Theresa May really

:12:19. > :12:21.getting to grips with the issue. She was surprised that David Cameron

:12:22. > :12:25.hadn't got in place a security regime so that we could cast an eye

:12:26. > :12:29.over who was looking to build nuclear power stations. In other

:12:30. > :12:33.words, a sort of thank God Theresa May's got a grip of this issue. The

:12:34. > :12:37.question is, is it all window dressing? All this security talk, is

:12:38. > :12:46.it a load of fluff that doesn't amount to much. What it seems to be

:12:47. > :12:50.is that the Government can in future say to countries that build nuclear

:12:51. > :12:54.power stations in this country that if they sell part of the power

:12:55. > :13:01.station to someone we don't like, we can say, no, that deal can't go

:13:02. > :13:04.ahead. But is that really a whole raft of new security arrangements?

:13:05. > :13:08.That's where a lot of the politics of this is going to be. Theresa May

:13:09. > :13:12.marched this up to the top of the hill over the security issue and the

:13:13. > :13:17.question now will be, has she actually got a new tough package or

:13:18. > :13:19.is it really the same old deal negotiated by David Cameron? Thank

:13:20. > :13:21.you very much. The Hinkley Point project is being

:13:22. > :13:23.financed by France and China. Let's speak to our BBC China

:13:24. > :13:33.expert Micky Bristow. Are China going to accept this? Yes,

:13:34. > :13:38.as we indicated when we introduced this report, there's already been a

:13:39. > :13:41.reaction from China. The UK company in China's helping build this

:13:42. > :13:45.nuclear power station in Britain and it welcomes the decision, a very

:13:46. > :13:48.swift response. It's been reported on China's official media already as

:13:49. > :13:53.well, I just had a look before I came down to the studio. I wouldn't

:13:54. > :13:57.be surprised if before too long the Chinese Foreign Ministry is

:13:58. > :14:01.welcoming this decision as well. So they are quite pleased because once,

:14:02. > :14:05.when the Prime Minister suggested that she was going to look again at

:14:06. > :14:10.this project, China was angry about it and started to put pressure on.

:14:11. > :14:14.The ambassador to Britain spoke out about how this could affect this

:14:15. > :14:19.Golden relationship that David Cameron and George Osborne worked so

:14:20. > :14:24.hard to establish with China and they were suggesting, if you don't

:14:25. > :14:28.go ahead with this, what about all the other projects that might come

:14:29. > :14:35.online. So they'll be happy about this decision. What is in it for

:14:36. > :14:38.China? Well, China's on a major nuclear power station building

:14:39. > :14:43.scheme, building mostly of course in its own country, but this is an

:14:44. > :14:49.attempt at a chance to showcase what they can do on the international

:14:50. > :14:53.scene. Also China, the economy there is slowing down slightly, so the

:14:54. > :14:56.Government there wants to push its companies out into the wider world

:14:57. > :15:01.to invest across the world to do business more with the rest of the

:15:02. > :15:07.world. For the British Prime Minister to stop this project before

:15:08. > :15:10.it actually got under way would. A good advertisement for Chinese

:15:11. > :15:14.business so that's essentially what they are getting out of it.

:15:15. > :15:20.Let's speak to Chris Huhne, the former Lib Dem Energy Secretary.

:15:21. > :15:27.He was in that role between 2010 and 2012. Good morning, what do you make

:15:28. > :15:31.of the deal now that it's going ahead?

:15:32. > :15:43.This Is A Necessary Deal, Not By Any Means The Best We Could Have Struck,

:15:44. > :15:46.But Necessary Because We Need secure long-term low carbon electricity to

:15:47. > :15:49.make sure the lights stay on in the dark evenings in January and

:15:50. > :15:53.February when we don't have any sunshine and there may not be wind.

:15:54. > :15:57.It is not the greatest deal because our negotiators had to negotiate

:15:58. > :16:05.with one hand tied behind their back. George Osborne in particular

:16:06. > :16:08.was so keen, publicly so keen on nuclear that every time he made a

:16:09. > :16:13.positive statement to the EDF price went up, so the reality is if you

:16:14. > :16:16.want to do a good commercial deal your counterpart has to know that

:16:17. > :16:22.you are able and prepared to walk away from the table, and if you are

:16:23. > :16:26.not you will overpay. So it is not the best deal but it is a necessary

:16:27. > :16:31.one to keep the lights on and ensure we have stable, secure low carbon

:16:32. > :16:34.electricity for the future. The thing most people will be interested

:16:35. > :16:39.in this morning is how it will affect our bills, and it will mean

:16:40. > :16:43.that bills will be higher? We don't know whether it will mean that bills

:16:44. > :16:47.will be higher because obviously the Government doesn't pay anything

:16:48. > :16:57.until the plant is actually built. All the risk is taken by EDF, by the

:16:58. > :17:03.French mega electricity company, they take the construction risk

:17:04. > :17:07.along with their Chinese coinvestors and the British consumer does not

:17:08. > :17:12.pay a penny until the plant is up and running, and nobody really knows

:17:13. > :17:16.what prices are going to be then but we do know that we are going to have

:17:17. > :17:22.to have low carbon electricity, and if you were going to run cold plants

:17:23. > :17:27.or gas plants, this looks like a good deal. There ought to be a tax

:17:28. > :17:31.on the polluting sources of electricity. If that was at the

:17:32. > :17:35.right level to reflect the damage which we know they are causing, then

:17:36. > :17:38.this would be a good deal for the consumer, and I think that is the

:17:39. > :17:43.key thing we have to bear in mind for the future, this is secure low

:17:44. > :17:47.carbon electricity for many generations to come. Thank you for

:17:48. > :17:50.your time, Chris Huhne, former energy secretary.

:17:51. > :17:54.It's estimated that doctors in this country see six cases of female

:17:55. > :17:57.genital mutilation every week and yet, in the 30 years that FGM has

:17:58. > :18:03.been a crime, it has never been successfully prosecuted.

:18:04. > :18:07.In a report published today, MPs on the Home Affairs Select Committee

:18:08. > :18:16.say that is a 'national scandal' and 'beyond belief'.

:18:17. > :18:18.It's also calling on frontline professionals to face stronger

:18:19. > :18:21.sanctions if they fail to report cases of FGM to the police.

:18:22. > :18:23.The practice involves cutting off the female genitalia,

:18:24. > :18:25.either partially or totally, and is sometimes also

:18:26. > :18:33.We can talk to the Labour MP Naz Shah, who is from

:18:34. > :18:36.the Home Affairs Select Committee, and helped with this report.

:18:37. > :18:41.Also here to talk about this is Lisa Zimmerman, a secondary

:18:42. > :18:43.school teacher and founder of the charity Integrate Bristol

:18:44. > :18:50.Bethel Tadesse isthe first person in her family not to have faced FGM

:18:51. > :18:59.Also with us, Commander Mak Chisty, the lead police office for FGM.

:19:00. > :19:07.Why haven't we seen a single successful prosecution yet? Because

:19:08. > :19:13.the way the law is set up, it is not set up to be... We have had one test

:19:14. > :19:18.case in the last 30 years. The report is damning in terms of not

:19:19. > :19:22.having any convictions. We have got 5000 people, we have not been

:19:23. > :19:25.recording the crimes centrally, there is not enough effort going

:19:26. > :19:28.into this, the Government has failed on this not just from a legal

:19:29. > :19:34.perspective but in terms of reaching out to communities and changing the

:19:35. > :19:39.perception of FGM, making sure people understand it is wrong, it is

:19:40. > :19:42.child abuse, it is illegal, mutilation is not acceptable. There

:19:43. > :19:47.are lots of reasons we have not had these convictions. Do you know how

:19:48. > :19:54.many unsuccessful prosecutions there are? I know of one bored by the CPS,

:19:55. > :19:59.that was a Dr Who had dealt with a lady who had given birth, so it was

:20:00. > :20:02.not a classic case of FGM in terms of a child being taken abroad and

:20:03. > :20:06.the parent or family being held to account, which is what we should be

:20:07. > :20:15.doing, holding communities and parents to account for this barbaric

:20:16. > :20:21.act, but that is not happening and that one prosecution was an absolute

:20:22. > :20:26.shambles at the time. From a police officer's point of view, why not won

:20:27. > :20:29.a successful prosecution? Success is not just about prosecution or

:20:30. > :20:34.conviction, a lot is about intervention and safeguarding so I

:20:35. > :20:39.don't want to miss that. There are some harriers to taking these type

:20:40. > :20:43.of instances, there is the reluctance for people to come

:20:44. > :20:47.forward, the closeness of a family unit, it is difficult to break out

:20:48. > :20:50.of that cultural sense. And also parents sometimes take their

:20:51. > :20:54.daughters abroad to places like Somalia or Ethiopia for this to

:20:55. > :20:59.happen, would you be able to prosecute if it happened in another

:21:00. > :21:03.country? The law does allow others to do that and we have done an

:21:04. > :21:16.operation across 11 airports across the UK this summer where we have

:21:17. > :21:18.engaged with 5000 people, referred 33 people to safeguarding

:21:19. > :21:21.arrangements and arrested two people, taken one child into care,

:21:22. > :21:25.so we are doing this to make sure we are hitting the right areas. I want

:21:26. > :21:29.to ask you, Bethel, if I may, about your family and your experience.

:21:30. > :21:34.Could you explain to our audience why you are the first person in your

:21:35. > :21:38.family not to undergo FGM? My mother decided not to perform FGM on me

:21:39. > :21:42.because she was educated and taught that it was the wrong thing to do,

:21:43. > :21:46.that is where it stopped in my family, I was the first person to

:21:47. > :21:55.not have FGM and my sister didn't either. Your mum did? Yes, she has.

:21:56. > :21:59.Was that done by her mum? By a family member, yes. I feel education

:22:00. > :22:06.is the only way to emphasise the fact that it is the only way to end

:22:07. > :22:11.FGM happening. Your experience from Integrate Bristol, who are you

:22:12. > :22:14.talking to? I don't do much of the talking myself because we have

:22:15. > :22:19.around 100 young people, the older ones are very well trained and go

:22:20. > :22:24.into schools, they do peer education and training teachers and police, so

:22:25. > :22:29.most of the work is done by the young people. I started off

:22:30. > :22:36.delivering with them and now they are much better than me, Bethel is

:22:37. > :22:38.one of them. Naz Shah, you acknowledge it is complicated,

:22:39. > :22:44.somebody is potentially not going to want to go to police to report their

:22:45. > :22:48.mother, father or another family member, are they? Absolutely, it has

:22:49. > :22:54.similarities to forced marriage, which is why the report has

:22:55. > :22:57.recommended that we need a centralised unit where health and

:22:58. > :23:01.education and the Government come together, so we are working across

:23:02. > :23:07.the board, across authorities, raising awareness and supporting

:23:08. > :23:11.young people and families, making sure we are working to eradicate

:23:12. > :23:16.this practice, absolutely. Can I ask you about one of the recommendations

:23:17. > :23:20.the report makes, tougher sanctions for front-line professionals who

:23:21. > :23:24.don't report cases. What sort of professionals are you talking about

:23:25. > :23:27.and what kind of sanctions? Give us an example of the scenario a

:23:28. > :23:32.professional might find themselves in where they have a duty to report

:23:33. > :23:38.FGM to the police? Let's look at FGM is child abuse. We need to accept

:23:39. > :23:41.that FGM is child abuse and at the moment we have safeguarding measures

:23:42. > :23:45.for any front-line staff under child protection that you have to report

:23:46. > :23:51.that. What we are finding is that when it comes to FGM we are not

:23:52. > :23:57.convinced that we were using that same safeguarding threshold, that

:23:58. > :24:01.same yardstick, when it comes to child abuse. People do not

:24:02. > :24:04.understand FGM is child abuse and we have to have that shift in culture

:24:05. > :24:08.and people need to accept that this is what FGM is, it is about raising

:24:09. > :24:13.awareness and having the confidence to say, this is what I understand it

:24:14. > :24:17.to be, this is child abuse, it needs to be reported as it is, which is a

:24:18. > :24:21.safeguarding issue under child protection and that is when we will

:24:22. > :24:32.see a shift in patterns and prosecutions, when we go down that

:24:33. > :24:34.route. If an individual front-line professional, and nurse, GP,

:24:35. > :24:36.teacher, whoever it may be, understand it is child abuse and

:24:37. > :24:40.does not reported, what should happen to them? Exactly what happens

:24:41. > :24:44.when we have a usual case of child abuse, if you are not doing your

:24:45. > :24:47.duty then you do not have a right to be in that job because safeguarding

:24:48. > :24:51.children is absolutely paramount, it is incumbent upon us as

:24:52. > :24:55.professionals regardless of our profession, if we see any child

:24:56. > :25:00.abuse we reported and FGM is no different. It has to happen, if not,

:25:01. > :25:06.you are not fit to practice your profession. If you are knowingly not

:25:07. > :25:11.reporting it, absolutely. So somebody should lose their job, what

:25:12. > :25:15.do you think about that? The system relies upon everyone working

:25:16. > :25:19.together... What do you think about front-line professionals who

:25:20. > :25:22.understand this is child abuse, and perhaps not everybody does

:25:23. > :25:26.understand that yet, and don't go on to reported? It is a neglect of duty

:25:27. > :25:30.and they should be held to account, and if it means losing their job

:25:31. > :25:36.then so be it in line with their disciplinary code. Do agree? Yes,

:25:37. > :25:39.but when it comes to professionals who don't know what is going on,

:25:40. > :25:43.education is the most important thing, so they will know exactly

:25:44. > :25:48.what to do. But if they are neglecting their duties then, like

:25:49. > :25:53.Mak said, if it will take losing their job, it is child abuse. There

:25:54. > :25:57.are some people who understand a bit thick, I can't get involved in this,

:25:58. > :26:00.it may be FGM but for cultural reasons this girl may have undergone

:26:01. > :26:10.this and I don't see it as child abuse. In a school, teachers?

:26:11. > :26:14.Professionals. It is unlikely. A lot of teachers will not have had

:26:15. > :26:18.adequate training and that responsibility is first for the

:26:19. > :26:22.Government to make it statutory so that all children, not just girls

:26:23. > :26:27.but boys as well, are given a safe space to discuss this and other

:26:28. > :26:31.difficult issues. It is about breaking down barriers but I would

:26:32. > :26:35.rather see the emphasis on protection, on ending the practice,

:26:36. > :26:43.than on prosecution. In Bristol we have an amazing, everybody works

:26:44. > :26:47.together, so we have health, the police, education, lots of

:26:48. > :26:53.organisations working together, we share information, there are lots of

:26:54. > :26:56.schools in Bristol that have had FGM education embedded across the

:26:57. > :26:59.schools and that can be replicated but it would be faster and more

:27:00. > :27:05.efficient if the Government passed legislation on it, and we are

:27:06. > :27:08.hopeful now that Justine is the Secretary of State for Education

:27:09. > :27:12.that it might happen. Just Dean Greening. Have you spoken about this

:27:13. > :27:19.in schools? Yes, with Integrate Bristol. What response do you get

:27:20. > :27:23.from pupils? Shock is the main thing when they find out what it is. After

:27:24. > :27:30.that, interested in how to prevent it and how to know when to report

:27:31. > :27:34.and things like that. I think young people and children have less

:27:35. > :27:39.difficulty with the issue than a lot of adults, particularly adults like

:27:40. > :27:44.us. They don't have a problem with these difficult issues, I haven't

:27:45. > :27:47.ever come across somebody making an inappropriate comment or being

:27:48. > :27:51.unkind. I have been in situations where we get disclosures in front of

:27:52. > :27:56.other children and they have always been considerate about it. It is

:27:57. > :28:00.important to make sure all staff, teachers, front-line professionals

:28:01. > :28:04.know what to do with a disclosure. What do you do if a child says, this

:28:05. > :28:14.is about to happen to me or has happened to me? You followed the

:28:15. > :28:17.safeguarding procedures in your school, reported as soon as you can

:28:18. > :28:19.to be safeguarding the need and you have to be absolutely sure it will

:28:20. > :28:22.be dealt with appropriately, so you follow up. What should change as a

:28:23. > :28:25.result of the report? One of the things is that we need to start

:28:26. > :28:29.looking, one of the important things is when people think it is a

:28:30. > :28:33.cultural issue, it isn't. Mutilation of a child, yet it is a cultural

:28:34. > :28:37.practice but it is child abuse, and until we get that under

:28:38. > :28:41.safeguarding, that every child has a right to live free of fear and a

:28:42. > :28:50.right not to be abused, if we take that approach then culture does not

:28:51. > :28:53.come into it, we do not have to think about cultural practices, we

:28:54. > :28:56.will deal with children as equals and that is how we should do it. I

:28:57. > :28:59.really want to see this unit, I have not been able to contribute to the

:29:00. > :29:06.report, my colleagues did more work on it but I know that we really need

:29:07. > :29:09.to have this single unit which brings everybody together and focus

:29:10. > :29:14.on education and raising awareness and making sure that this stops. As

:29:15. > :29:19.a police officer would that unit, similar to the forced marriages

:29:20. > :29:23.unit, would that specific unit help you? It would help in terms of

:29:24. > :29:28.bringing the information together so that we had a better profile in

:29:29. > :29:31.terms of prevalence across the country, but also in terms of

:29:32. > :29:35.spreading good practice like what is going on in Bristol, spreading out

:29:36. > :29:39.across the country as well. I do agree that education has to be one

:29:40. > :29:43.of the main thrusts to eradicate this. Thank you very much, all of

:29:44. > :29:55.you, for coming on. Still to come: Using your mobile

:29:56. > :30:02.while driving. More than us than ever are doing it. We'll spoke to a

:30:03. > :30:06.mum whouz 13-year-old daughter was killed by a texting driver.

:30:07. > :30:16.And protecting vulnerable witnesses, more on that.

:30:17. > :30:21.The French firm EDF says it's delighted the Chinese have welcomed

:30:22. > :30:24.the Government's decision to push ahead with the Hinkley point nuclear

:30:25. > :30:28.power station. The Energy Secretary Greg Clark confirmed this morning

:30:29. > :30:32.the deal was approved, but he said its conditions were being revised to

:30:33. > :30:36.enhance security and give the Government more power in future

:30:37. > :30:40.negotiations. The plant in Somerset will cost around ?18 billion to

:30:41. > :30:44.build. Let's go live to Hinkley point and speak to our correspondent

:30:45. > :30:50.there, Dave Harvey, good morning. What reaction are you picking up?

:30:51. > :30:55.Good morning. There is a very good reason why they build new nuclear

:30:56. > :31:00.power stations next to old ones. Here on the west Somerset coast they

:31:01. > :31:03.have had nuclear power since the '60s, the blue buildings being

:31:04. > :31:08.decommissioned. This will be the site of what will be Europe's

:31:09. > :31:12.largest building site, some ?18 billion providing around 7% of the

:31:13. > :31:17.UK's total electricity. They are building a huge plant over there

:31:18. > :31:22.just to mix the concrete is a massive undertaking. Up to 5,000

:31:23. > :31:25.jobs here at peak. They are familiar with the controversies over nuclear

:31:26. > :31:31.power that have been going on for decades. This plant's been more

:31:32. > :31:33.controversial than most, not just over the subsidies, guaranteed

:31:34. > :31:38.prices for the electricity that will come out on here which on today's

:31:39. > :31:42.money is about twice the going rate, although EDF and the Government say

:31:43. > :31:50.in 10-20 years, that will look like a good deal but concerns too over

:31:51. > :31:54.who will run it. It will be French and Chinese consortiums building a

:31:55. > :31:57.nuclear power station in Britain. Theresa May tells us she has no

:31:58. > :32:01.controls to ensure the British Government remains in control. I'll

:32:02. > :32:05.tell you what, this plant will remain controversial for a good

:32:06. > :32:09.while yet. Thank you very much. Elderly people

:32:10. > :32:12.are being failed by the social care system because of financial

:32:13. > :32:16.pressures on local councils according to health experts. A

:32:17. > :32:19.report by the King's Fund and Nuffield Trust says that the local

:32:20. > :32:23.authority support older people get is based on where they live, rather

:32:24. > :32:28.than their needs. A Labour MP whose name was on a list

:32:29. > :32:31.of those accused of abuse towards Jeremy Corbyn and his allies says

:32:32. > :32:36.he's considering taking legal action against the Labour Leader. Speaking

:32:37. > :32:39.on this programme, Neil Coyle says he does not know what he is supposed

:32:40. > :32:42.to have done and that Jeremy Corbyn must have known about the list

:32:43. > :32:47.before it was published. I'm upset, I let the leader know I was upset

:32:48. > :32:53.yesterday and wanted to know what I was accused of. I asked if I

:32:54. > :32:56.received a written apology, and this ridiculous petty student politics

:32:57. > :33:01.list is retracted that would help but I will still be talking to a

:33:02. > :33:07.lawyer tomorrow about this defamation. I've been, you know,

:33:08. > :33:10.accused of abuse, that is completely unacceptable and it's so

:33:11. > :33:13.unprofessional. So you are considering suing your leader? Yes,

:33:14. > :33:17.and it would be the leader, not the party because this has been issued

:33:18. > :33:20.by someone in his campaign team so it's not the Labour Party. Five

:33:21. > :33:24.police officers face possible dismissal over the way they dealt

:33:25. > :33:28.with the man who broke his neck during an incident outside a

:33:29. > :33:32.nightclub. Julian Cole, a sports science student suffered severe

:33:33. > :33:38.brain damage and was left paralysed after being arrested and restrained

:33:39. > :33:40.by police in Bedford. The IPCC has recommended disciplinary action

:33:41. > :33:47.against the five Bedfordshire police officers involved.

:33:48. > :33:54.That's the summary. Join me for BBC newsroom live at 11. A couple of

:33:55. > :33:59.comments from you about Neil Coyl, Peter says apart from the absurdity

:34:00. > :34:04.of what is constantly being invented as abuse, it seems that the Labour

:34:05. > :34:07.MPs need a dinner lady in the playground to separate them, bang

:34:08. > :34:13.their heads together and tell their mum! They want to run the country, I

:34:14. > :34:17.wouldn't give them an interview for a lollipop warden, they are

:34:18. > :34:21.pathetic. Lee says, they are acting like petty school children, get on

:34:22. > :34:25.with holding the Conservatives to account instead of in-fighting. Many

:34:26. > :34:28.comments about people who drive and use their mobiles. I'll read some in

:34:29. > :34:30.the next half hour when we are going to discuss that in more detail.

:34:31. > :34:41.Before that, the sport with Jess. With four days still to go, Great

:34:42. > :34:46.Britain are enjoying their best ever performance at a Paralympics. Hannah

:34:47. > :34:51.Cockroft won her second gold, one of nine activitieses for Paralympics

:34:52. > :34:55.GB. They have 95 medals overall, surpassing the London total. Chris

:34:56. > :34:58.Froome says he's no issues with the latest leak of confident fshl

:34:59. > :35:03.medical information, Russian hackers have revealed the medical files of a

:35:04. > :35:08.number of athletes, including Froome and Bradley Wiggins but Froome says

:35:09. > :35:12.he's already openly discussed banned substances he uses for verified

:35:13. > :35:19.medical reasons. What a start for Champions League life for Leicester.

:35:20. > :35:24.Mahrez scored twice as they beat Brugge 3-0 in Belgium in their first

:35:25. > :35:26.ever match in the competition. Manchester City beat Borussia

:35:27. > :35:33.Monchengladbach but Spurs lost to Monaco. The ECB has announced plans

:35:34. > :35:36.for a new Twenty20 competition to run alongside the Blast. It's hoped

:35:37. > :35:41.it will rival the Indian Premier League and Australia's Big Bash. It

:35:42. > :35:45.could start as early as 2018. That is all the sport, more on the

:35:46. > :35:49.BBC News Channel throughout the day. Thank you very much.

:35:50. > :35:51.The number of drivers who use their mobile

:35:52. > :35:54.phone behind the wheel is at "epidemic proportions".

:35:55. > :35:56.That's according to the RAC, whose latest research found one

:35:57. > :35:59.in three people admitted to using a phone while driving

:36:00. > :36:03.The problem is even bigger among younger people, with some videoing,

:36:04. > :36:05.tweeting and playing games at the same time as driving.

:36:06. > :36:08.If caught you can get 3 points on your licence and a ?100 fine.

:36:09. > :36:12.The Dept of Transport is consulting on whether to increase this to 4

:36:13. > :36:15.penalty points on your licence - or 6 if you're a lorry driver -

:36:16. > :36:22.Everyone knows it's dangerous so why are more and more people doing it?

:36:23. > :36:24.We can speak now to David Bisley from the RAC,

:36:25. > :36:29.Also with us is Mitchell Copus who is a young driver

:36:30. > :36:32.and Nazan Fennell who has campaigned on this issue since her 13 year

:36:33. > :36:35.old daughter Hope was killed by a lorry driver who was texting

:36:36. > :36:40.And in Nottinghamshire is Liese Bowers-Straw ,

:36:41. > :36:42.who was seriously injured in a motorway pile-up caused

:36:43. > :36:45.by a woman who was driving while on her phone.

:36:46. > :36:48.But before we talk to our guests, an American phone company has

:36:49. > :36:52.launched a hard-hitting campaign to raise awareness of the dangers

:36:53. > :36:58.The ads are shown in cinemas and on TV, and it has

:36:59. > :37:01.been shared over seven million times online.

:37:02. > :37:10.It lasts just over a minute. It's been shared over seven million times

:37:11. > :37:12.online. Here is an extract. If you have young people in the room, you

:37:13. > :37:15.may want to remove them. It will still be there

:37:16. > :37:21.when we get back. Everyone loves the picture

:37:22. > :38:28.I posted of you. VOICEOVER: AT remind you,

:38:29. > :38:45.it can wait. Very, very powerful. Phones were a

:38:46. > :38:51.factor in 492 accidents in Britain in 2014. Minimal penalty ?100, three

:38:52. > :38:55.points, a survey found one in three people have used a phone behind the

:38:56. > :39:00.wheel. It's illegal to use your phone while driving even at traffic

:39:01. > :39:05.lights. Texting whilst driving is worse than drinking, research has

:39:06. > :39:09.found. Let's talk to our guests, welcome all of you. David, people

:39:10. > :39:13.hate seeing others using a phone while driving but a lot of us do it

:39:14. > :39:20.ourselves don't we? Unfortunately, yes. Around a third admit to making

:39:21. > :39:29.or receiving calls in the last 12 months when you are on the move.

:39:30. > :39:34.Nearly 50% if you incollide stationary traffic. The same

:39:35. > :39:38.percentage two years ago was only 8%, that is I think partly due to

:39:39. > :39:42.the fact that more people are using their phones. It's also partly due

:39:43. > :39:45.to the fact that people actually find it socially acceptable to do so

:39:46. > :39:53.and they are prepared to admit to it. Are more people doing it or is

:39:54. > :39:58.it that more have the phones? A bit of both I think. What effect does

:39:59. > :40:10.the distraction of a phone have on somebody's driving ability? It's the

:40:11. > :40:14.ability to deal with the unexpected. When driving, you have no control

:40:15. > :40:19.over other people and, even just for a melt, you glance down to a phone

:40:20. > :40:24.or you're thinking about the content of the message, you are not

:40:25. > :40:29.focussing on the road. Wen when the unexpected thing happens, you can't

:40:30. > :40:34.react. Nazan, the lorry driver that hit

:40:35. > :40:45.your daughter was texting at the time. Tell our audience about it? It

:40:46. > :40:52.was on a Monday, just a normal day. Hope went to school in the morning

:40:53. > :40:56.and I went to work. After work, I came home and was preparing my

:40:57. > :41:01.children's dinner, as usual. Hope was a little bit late. I wasn't too

:41:02. > :41:07.worried, it was just half an hour, she was only just 13, she'd just got

:41:08. > :41:19.into make-up and, you know, just doing the shops on the high street

:41:20. > :41:23.and I wasn't worried. Then it got to almost an hour. Two police officers

:41:24. > :41:29.were there, they came to tell me about what's happened to her. They

:41:30. > :41:35.told me that Hope was riding her bicycle from school which was only

:41:36. > :41:43.two roads away from home. She was riding from school back home and at

:41:44. > :41:52.a crossing she saw traffic stationary, she attempted to cross

:41:53. > :41:57.in front of an 18 tonne lorry. Now, the lorry was stationary, she walked

:41:58. > :42:08.in front of it and the lorry driver also at that moment started going

:42:09. > :42:13.forward. He never saw Hope. His 18 tonne vehicle went over my tiny

:42:14. > :42:18.daughter, you know, and he was stopped by the people on the high

:42:19. > :42:23.street. This happened at rush hour so the high street was full of

:42:24. > :42:27.school children and commuters and other people, so despite the

:42:28. > :42:33.terrifying scene, people saw exactly what happened, she was struck down

:42:34. > :42:37.by the lorry, stuck under the vehicle for 20 minutes. Because of

:42:38. > :42:44.the size to have the vehicle he couldn't free her. In the meantime

:42:45. > :42:48.he was deleting the text messages? He was exchanging text messages with

:42:49. > :42:55.his girlfriend. There was about 16 messages in 20 minutes. It was a

:42:56. > :43:03.heated argument which means he was more involved, so he'd even less

:43:04. > :43:08.attention paying on the road. So, you know... It's unimaginable, what

:43:09. > :43:20.you have been through. She was under the wheels trapped, you know.

:43:21. > :43:23.Mitchell, you are a young man, clearly, are you tempted to use your

:43:24. > :43:28.phone at the wheel? From people's point of view that you have all the

:43:29. > :43:32.inNorwich Unions of social media, Facebook Instagram and I think that

:43:33. > :43:43.young people have that addiction where a notification goes off, a

:43:44. > :43:52.sound alert and the sound alone can drive your attention away from the

:43:53. > :44:00.road. People are four times more likely to use their phone than at

:44:01. > :44:06.any other age research shows. Something I thought of that could be

:44:07. > :44:10.a solution is that we have aeroplane modes which disable our phone, can

:44:11. > :44:14.we get something if we work together with mobile phone companies or the

:44:15. > :44:21.law, where our phone is paired to our car, can be disabled on a car

:44:22. > :44:30.mode which then could help drivers not be distracted by their phone and

:44:31. > :44:40.alerts. Let me bring in Lees. You were in an

:44:41. > :44:44.accident involve involved with 17 other vehicles, caused by a woman

:44:45. > :44:56.who was on her phone for a time, is that right? Yes, I was on the M1

:44:57. > :45:02.during rush hour and all I remember were headlights coming towards me

:45:03. > :45:07.that I couldn't work out. A lady was going southbound on the M1 while I

:45:08. > :45:13.was going forth bound, she was in the outside lane and whilst on her

:45:14. > :45:16.phone, she hit the rumble strip because she'd not been

:45:17. > :45:20.concentrating. She then veered over into a lorry, causing the lorry to

:45:21. > :45:24.jack life, right the way across the M1 in front of me, killing somebody

:45:25. > :45:34.instantly and doing serious damage to a lot of other people. What do

:45:35. > :45:38.you think about what she was doing and how it's impacted on you? The

:45:39. > :45:42.impact on me is colossal. I've gone from being a career woman, loving

:45:43. > :45:47.work, travelling all oaf the country to, as you can see, somebody who is

:45:48. > :45:52.a shadow of themselves. I've lost all of my identity. What I think

:45:53. > :46:00.she's doing is completely wrong and she actually sat at the scene of the

:46:01. > :46:06.accident deleting her call register and her text messages to deny all

:46:07. > :46:12.knowledge of doing it and I just think, I don't really have words for

:46:13. > :46:22.it, it's abomination I think. What do you think of the idea of

:46:23. > :46:26.having a car mode for the phone to stop us being tempted and

:46:27. > :46:30.distracted? I think it makes a lot of sense. The difficulty with

:46:31. > :46:34.relying on the Bluetooth connection is very often it is the people who

:46:35. > :46:38.don't have hands-free and Bluetooth that are the biggest problem. But

:46:39. > :46:41.there will be a technology solution, I'm sure, that will help us on this,

:46:42. > :46:51.we just haven't found it yet. I think that the technology is already

:46:52. > :46:58.there, I think the US is ahead of us more for finding solutions about

:46:59. > :47:03.this. Oprah started a campaign called No Phone Zone which has been

:47:04. > :47:07.going on for about ten years now, and her campaign, basically, the

:47:08. > :47:10.campaign we had about smoking and how much it was a socially

:47:11. > :47:17.acceptable thing and the way we tackled it and made it anti-social,

:47:18. > :47:23.basically you put stickers in the cars, saying no smoking, we could

:47:24. > :47:26.have the same thing, so Oprah was giving out free stickers at every

:47:27. > :47:31.petrol station, you can pick up a sticker with the red sign with the

:47:32. > :47:40.phone inside and across, like with no smoking, so everybody can... It

:47:41. > :47:44.is about raising awareness. Making the comparison with smoking, Nigel

:47:45. > :47:49.has e-mailed to say, the ban on the use of mobile phones was introduced

:47:50. > :47:53.in 2003, 13 years on it is widely broken. The ban on smoking in public

:47:54. > :47:58.places, nine years on it is universally obeyed.

:47:59. > :48:03.So we have to make it as socially unacceptable as drink-driving, as

:48:04. > :48:10.smoking in public places? Absolutely, yes. And I think new

:48:11. > :48:15.cars that are being made are having Bluetooth and stuff so I think it is

:48:16. > :48:19.just a matter of time. Thank you all very much.

:48:20. > :48:25.The Department for Transport told us it is totally unacceptable

:48:26. > :48:27.for motorists to endanger lives by using hand-held mobile

:48:28. > :48:33."Offenders already face serious offences such as causing death

:48:34. > :48:35.by dangerous driving, which can carry a substantial prison term.

:48:36. > :48:38.We have also proposed tougher penalties for mobile phone use

:48:39. > :48:43.to act as a deterrent and ensure it is not tolerated."

:48:44. > :48:48.All vulnerable victims of crime and witnesses in England

:48:49. > :48:53.and Wales will be allowed to pre-record their evidence.

:48:54. > :48:56.This is what the Justice Secretary and Lord Chancellor,

:48:57. > :48:58.Elizabeth Truss, had to say about the measures.

:48:59. > :49:01.This is about making sure that vulnerable victims and witnesses,

:49:02. > :49:04.particularly children, don't have to relive

:49:05. > :49:15.the trauma of what's happened to them in open court.

:49:16. > :49:18.They can testify in advance and be cross-examined in advance,

:49:19. > :49:19.and we'll be rolling this out across the

:49:20. > :49:27.Our legal eagle Clive Coleman has been looking in to it.

:49:28. > :49:36.This marks a change in the way we do serious child because from 2017 all

:49:37. > :49:39.vulnerable witnesses, so anyone under 18 or who suffers from a

:49:40. > :49:42.mental or social disorder that could diminish their evidence, will be

:49:43. > :49:46.able to have their evidence taken in a session that would take place

:49:47. > :49:50.possibly six months before the trial. What will happen is that they

:49:51. > :49:54.will be cross-examined in front of a judge but not the jewellery and

:49:55. > :49:59.their evidence will be recorded, then it will be played in during the

:50:00. > :50:03.trial, which could take place sometime heads. What that means, the

:50:04. > :50:08.reason it is significant, it could mean that a victim or witness need

:50:09. > :50:12.not attend the trial itself but simply append this prerecording of

:50:13. > :50:16.their evidence. For centuries we have required victims and witnesses

:50:17. > :50:20.to come physically to the court and for a long time there have been a

:50:21. > :50:23.range of special measures for vulnerable witnesses when they do

:50:24. > :50:28.come to court so they can give evidence from behind a screen, by

:50:29. > :50:31.video link or with the help of a registered intermediary, but this is

:50:32. > :50:38.a step change because it takes the victim or witness out of the white

:50:39. > :50:42.heat of the trial and the advantages are that this happens closer to the

:50:43. > :50:46.time of the incident, so the recollection will be fresher, and it

:50:47. > :50:50.follows a number of pilots wear that was found to be the case, where

:50:51. > :50:55.victims were more comfortable and witnesses found their recall was

:50:56. > :51:00.better because it was happening earlier on. Another advantage is

:51:01. > :51:03.that victims can get on with the process of therapy and counselling

:51:04. > :51:07.without having this weighty trial looming in the future where they

:51:08. > :51:17.have to relive the ordeal. But they are alleged victims until a

:51:18. > :51:20.jury decide so how is it decided who will prerecord the evidence?

:51:21. > :51:27.There is a lot of evidence taking place on this, during the

:51:28. > :51:31.pre-recorded session there is a defence barrister there to

:51:32. > :51:34.cross-examine. The way in which defence barristers cross-examine

:51:35. > :51:38.vulnerable witnesses, particularly in sexual offence cases, has been a

:51:39. > :51:42.subject of great controversy, but there is a barrister who will do the

:51:43. > :51:44.cross-examination but it will be done at the earlier session and

:51:45. > :51:48.there is provision that is something crops up during the course of the

:51:49. > :51:50.trial, there is provision if necessary to bring the victim or

:51:51. > :51:55.witness to court. Thank you.

:51:56. > :51:57.Joining me now to discuss these measures are Gabrielle Brown,

:51:58. > :52:00.a woman who was seriously sexually assaulted by a foreign

:52:01. > :52:06.He had committed a string of sex offences six months prior

:52:07. > :52:09.He was jailed but released on good behaviour.

:52:10. > :52:18.A week after his release, he attacked her.

:52:19. > :52:19.And, Francis Fitzgibbon QC - chairman

:52:20. > :52:31.What do you think of this, Gabrielle? I think potentially it

:52:32. > :52:39.will help a victim who has that absolute terror about facing their

:52:40. > :52:46.alleged perpetrator in court. It helps with that. The one thing,

:52:47. > :52:51.though, that I think is critical to the jury understanding the impact is

:52:52. > :52:57.actually the jury seeing the victim face-to-face, seeing the tears in

:52:58. > :53:01.the eyes, seeing it first hand, in the same way I waved my right to

:53:02. > :53:06.anonymity not because I especially want to be here all out there, I

:53:07. > :53:13.waved my right to anonymity so that people can see me for who I am with

:53:14. > :53:21.no screen, nothing different, so that they can see how much I care

:53:22. > :53:24.about what I'm expressing. Francis Fitzgibbon, Gabrielle agrees with it

:53:25. > :53:29.but there is that point, however dramatic it may be for an alleged

:53:30. > :53:33.victim, being given the courtroom and the jury seeing the impact of

:53:34. > :53:37.the alleged crime has had on them. I think that is in a way marginal

:53:38. > :53:42.point for this discussion, because the new provisions are limited, they

:53:43. > :53:46.are important but they are limited to young people, and a rating, and

:53:47. > :53:51.people who are found to be formidable in the sense of lacking

:53:52. > :53:57.the intellectual ability to cope with the ordinary trial process and

:53:58. > :54:02.the proposition for them is that their evidence will be better

:54:03. > :54:06.presented if it is recorded in advance in the way that Clive has

:54:07. > :54:11.described. Do you have any concerns about a defendant's right to a fair

:54:12. > :54:15.trial when this measure is brought in? I think it is too early to say

:54:16. > :54:20.whether there are real issues about that. I know that the experience of

:54:21. > :54:24.people who were involved in the pilot areas is that the system has

:54:25. > :54:28.worked pretty well. I don't think there have been any serious

:54:29. > :54:32.complaint about it. The real innovation is not so much the

:54:33. > :54:37.prerecording of evidence, because we have that to some extent anyway, it

:54:38. > :54:42.is limitations that the judge can put on the questions being asked by

:54:43. > :54:46.the defence cross-examination. The defence are required now to submit

:54:47. > :54:52.the proposed questions in advance in writing for approval by the judge,

:54:53. > :54:56.not to limit the nature of the defence budget to ensure that the

:54:57. > :55:01.questions are questions that will be comprehensible to the vulnerable

:55:02. > :55:07.witness, whoever that may be. I have spoken to a number of people over

:55:08. > :55:10.the years, genuine victims of pretty awful crimes, who say actually there

:55:11. > :55:15.was the crime and thing going through the court process, and that

:55:16. > :55:19.felt like they were being abused all over again. Absolutely, I described

:55:20. > :55:22.my own situation where it took nearly two years for the case to

:55:23. > :55:29.come to trial at the Old Bailey as double abuse, absolutely it is. I

:55:30. > :55:32.would say that whether it is a pre-recorded interview or not, the

:55:33. > :55:38.victim will still be hanging on for that trial outcome, and there is

:55:39. > :55:46.very little that can be done to diminish that pain, except for

:55:47. > :55:51.bearing in mind that we all want the right outcome, the right decision,

:55:52. > :55:55.whether it is acquittal or conviction, a more swift criminal

:55:56. > :55:59.justice process. Waiting nearly two years the trial when my offender was

:56:00. > :56:04.arrested within 20 minutes of the offence was tortured beyond help. It

:56:05. > :56:11.really was. A slightly different issue but is there any prospect of

:56:12. > :56:14.things being speeded up? The whole criminal justice system is massively

:56:15. > :56:18.under resourced, it has suffered years of cuts in all departments

:56:19. > :56:21.which unfortunately has meant the process has got much slower because

:56:22. > :56:25.there just are not the people to speeded through as Gabrielle and all

:56:26. > :56:29.of us would wish. If anyone listening would like to persuade the

:56:30. > :56:33.Government to invest a little more heavily in getting the system to go

:56:34. > :56:37.faster, that would be very welcome. I should say in fairness they have

:56:38. > :56:41.spent a lot of money on digitising the system so we don't have paper

:56:42. > :56:47.any more, everything is digital which will help a bit but there are

:56:48. > :56:51.still big problems with resources. Are there any more changes coming

:56:52. > :56:56.down the line similar to this, this prerecording of evidence? What else

:56:57. > :57:03.can you see is holding? I can say this, that to accompany these

:57:04. > :57:08.changes the entire criminal bar is about to embark on a massive free

:57:09. > :57:10.education programme to teach us how to cross-examine vulnerable

:57:11. > :57:14.witnesses in the now approved fashion, which is very different

:57:15. > :57:21.from what we are used to. There is no putting your case, no haranguing,

:57:22. > :57:24.you are not meant to be nearly as assertive... No describing the

:57:25. > :57:31.witness or alleged victim as liar? Not at all. The rules are bespoke,

:57:32. > :57:34.the judge will decide on each particular case and each witness

:57:35. > :57:40.what the appropriate level of questioning should be after

:57:41. > :57:45.discussion with the barristers, but it will all be managed closely by

:57:46. > :57:51.the judge to ensure, not to shut out the defence but to ensure that the

:57:52. > :57:55.witness is best able to give their evidence, and that the defence can

:57:56. > :57:58.do what they need to do given the former abilities of the witness.

:57:59. > :58:02.Thank you very much for coming on the programme.

:58:03. > :58:38.You see clips of a pile of bricks causing anger in a gallery.

:58:39. > :58:41.And a pickled shark floating in a tank.