23/09/2016

:00:11. > :00:14.Hello, it is Friday, it is 9am and welcome to the programme.

:00:15. > :00:17.Hackers have stolen details of more than half a billion Yahoo customers

:00:18. > :00:20.worldwide in the biggest security breach ever committed.

:00:21. > :00:23.But why has it taken nearly two years for the company to explain how

:00:24. > :00:28.names, email addresses, and phone numbers were stolen in the scam.

:00:29. > :00:31.When is the right time to withdraw treatment for someone

:00:32. > :00:33.who is in what is called a persistent vegatitive,

:00:34. > :00:37.Well the decision doesn't lie with families but with

:00:38. > :00:43.Relatives and campaigners say this needs to change.

:00:44. > :00:46.The mother of a British teenager found dead on a beach in India tells

:00:47. > :00:49.this programme about the guilt she feels since her daughter's

:00:50. > :01:03.I will regret that decision for the rest of my life that I let her go to

:01:04. > :01:08.that party. I wish more than anything I had said no and kept her

:01:09. > :01:10.with us, but I cannot change the past. I have to accept it and get

:01:11. > :01:15.on. Welcome to the programme,

:01:16. > :01:23.we're live until 11 this morning. We have lots coming up this

:01:24. > :01:26.morning on the show - what the biggest ever cyber hack

:01:27. > :01:30.on the accounts of Yahoo customers means and what to do

:01:31. > :01:32.if you may be affected. We are talking to two women

:01:33. > :01:35.who are marching in Dublin tomorrow in protest at the abortion laws that

:01:36. > :01:38.make it a criminal offence And we will keep you up to date

:01:39. > :01:43.with any breaking news including the latest on those protests

:01:44. > :01:47.in the American state of North Carolina over the shooting

:01:48. > :01:50.dead of a black man. Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:51. > :01:53.we're talking about this morning - use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:01:54. > :01:56.and if you text, you will be charged under pressure to explain how it

:01:57. > :02:05.failed to notice for two years what is thought to have been

:02:06. > :02:08.the biggest cyber attack in history. The company has urged its customers

:02:09. > :02:11.to consider changing their passwords after hackers stole information

:02:12. > :02:13.from half a billion accounts. Yahoo said the breach

:02:14. > :02:15.included names and emails, Our North America technology

:02:16. > :02:20.reporter Dave Lee has more. Rumours that Yahoo had been hacked

:02:21. > :02:23.had been circulating It was initially estimated that

:02:24. > :02:31.200 million users may have been hit, but it's turned out to be much

:02:32. > :02:34.worse than that. In terms of size, when we look

:02:35. > :02:37.at some of the other mega breaches this year, things like LinkedIn,

:02:38. > :02:43.MySpace was the big one - 360, this one is larger

:02:44. > :02:46.than either of those. So it is unprecedented in terms

:02:47. > :02:50.of the number of records impacted. Both Yahoo and the FBI

:02:51. > :02:53.are investigating the Whatever the source or motivation,

:02:54. > :03:03.the breach could have serious In July, the company was sold

:03:04. > :03:09.to Verizon for $4.8 billion. But Verizon told the BBC it only

:03:10. > :03:13.found out about the hack within the last two days

:03:14. > :03:16.and it was now considering its own Questions are also being asked

:03:17. > :03:25.about Yahoo's boss, Marissa Mayer, who has presided over

:03:26. > :03:28.a decline of the company and the largest online

:03:29. > :03:29.security breach in history. It is another sad chapter

:03:30. > :03:32.for what was once the most popular With me now is our technology

:03:33. > :03:48.reporter Chris Foxx. Tell us more about what has been

:03:49. > :03:53.taken. People might be thinking, who even uses Yahoo? It has been on the

:03:54. > :03:59.decline a long time but this data was stolen two may be more years

:04:00. > :04:04.ago. The company said no credit card details have been stolen but that is

:04:05. > :04:08.easy to change if they are stolen. It is harder to change your name,

:04:09. > :04:14.date of birth, telephone number. That is the kind of thing stolen.

:04:15. > :04:19.Fortunately, pass words were encrypted on the database and cannot

:04:20. > :04:23.be read by anyone with access to the data. But crucially some of the

:04:24. > :04:28.security questions on the website were not scrambled. When it ask you

:04:29. > :04:36.thing is like your mother's maiden name. Those questions were in the

:04:37. > :04:39.database in plain text for anybody to read which means if you have used

:04:40. > :04:42.them on another website, go to the website and change your password.

:04:43. > :04:46.Good advice not to reuse your password on other websites. The

:04:47. > :04:53.information was put up for sale, what can be done with it? Usually it

:04:54. > :04:57.is useful to harvest usernames, get passwords and tried them on other

:04:58. > :05:01.websites. There might not be anything of interest in your

:05:02. > :05:06.account, but if they can get into your PayPal account or e-mail, there

:05:07. > :05:12.might be something lucrative. Each of these records were up for sale on

:05:13. > :05:17.the dark web at less than 1p each. Not really of much value otherwise

:05:18. > :05:23.the price would be higher. This happened in 2014. Why are we hearing

:05:24. > :05:29.about it now? Yahoo says it has been investigating about it a long time.

:05:30. > :05:35.People sometimes post fake breaches, posting millions of fake records on

:05:36. > :05:40.the web. It has taken a long time for Yahoo to verify it is real. If

:05:41. > :05:45.you are a Yahoo customer and you are hearing now to change your password

:05:46. > :05:50.and it happened two years ago, you would think, that is a bit late. It

:05:51. > :05:56.is embarrassing. Will damage already have been done? Yes, if someone has

:05:57. > :06:03.your password from two years ago and you have reused it on the site, they

:06:04. > :06:06.will be able to get in. Do not jest change the Yahoo password, change

:06:07. > :06:07.all your passwords. -- just to change.

:06:08. > :06:09.Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:06:10. > :06:14.Rebel held areas of eastern Aleppo have come under renewed bombardment.

:06:15. > :06:17.The attacks began after the Syrian government announced

:06:18. > :06:19.a new offensive aimed at taking rebel-held areas -

:06:20. > :06:22.also home to at least 250,000 civilians.

:06:23. > :06:25.The latest violence comes as the United States

:06:26. > :06:28.and Russia have failed, once again, to revive a ceasefire.

:06:29. > :06:36.This is Aleppo through the eyes of its residents.

:06:37. > :06:38.These unverified pictures were filmed as the Syrian

:06:39. > :06:42.military announced a new offensive on the city.

:06:43. > :06:45.The government warned people to stay away from what it called

:06:46. > :06:54.As the week-long truce collapsed, the US and Russia held talks

:06:55. > :06:59.Talks which delivered little but frustration.

:07:00. > :07:03.We can't be the only ones trying to hold this door open.

:07:04. > :07:06.Russia and the regime must do their part or this

:07:07. > :07:13.The US says to restore the credibility of the truce,

:07:14. > :07:18.those with air power in the conflict should stop using it.

:07:19. > :07:23.But Russia countered that opposition forces also needed to stop fighting.

:07:24. > :07:26.As a stalemate continues, so does the wait for those

:07:27. > :07:28.in Aleppo in need of supplies of food and medicine.

:07:29. > :07:30.Deliveries have been suspended since Monday's attack on a convoy

:07:31. > :07:38.We hope to go to eastern Aleppo in the next days.

:07:39. > :07:42.We have 40 trucks ready at the Turkish-Syrian border.

:07:43. > :07:45.We need the government and the armed opposition groups to give us

:07:46. > :07:49.all the assurances we need and we haven't gotten that by now.

:07:50. > :07:53.The US and Russia will hold further talks today, but there

:07:54. > :07:55.is little sign of compromise and little sign of peace

:07:56. > :08:06.The family of a British schoolgirl murdered in India eight years ago

:08:07. > :08:09.will today hear the long-awaited verdict on the two men accused

:08:10. > :08:13.15-year-old Scarlett Keeling was on a six-month family holiday

:08:14. > :08:17.when she was found dead on a beach in Goa.

:08:18. > :08:20.Scarlett's mother, Fiona MacKeown, has spent eight years trying to get

:08:21. > :08:26.justice for her daughter and has travelled to India for the verdict.

:08:27. > :08:29.It is going to be the end of a huge struggle and a wait.

:08:30. > :08:33.Even though it won't be completely the end,

:08:34. > :08:40.because if it is a guilty verdict, they will appeal,

:08:41. > :08:43.and if it is not guilty, hopefully the prosecution will appeal.

:08:44. > :08:45.It is going to be the end of a long wait.

:08:46. > :08:47.I usually think about her when it's quiet.

:08:48. > :08:50.I think about how much she is missing.

:08:51. > :08:52.Missing the other children growing up and missing my

:08:53. > :09:01.I see her friends still, and they are the same

:09:02. > :09:03.age she would have been out if she had been alive.

:09:04. > :09:13.You can see that interview at around 9:30am.

:09:14. > :09:16.Prosecutors in the US State of Oklahoma have charged

:09:17. > :09:19.policewoman who shot an unarmed black man, with manslaughter.

:09:20. > :09:22.Video footage has emerged showing the man walking away from officers

:09:23. > :09:28.Meanwhile, protesters have defied a curfew put

:09:29. > :09:30.in place in Charlotte, North Carolina, where people

:09:31. > :09:32.have been gathering for the past three nights.

:09:33. > :09:35.The demonstrations follow the killing of a black man

:09:36. > :09:38.by police on Tuesday, but officers decided

:09:39. > :09:41.against enforcing the curfew, as protests were largely peaceful.

:09:42. > :09:44.There have been calls for footage of the shooting to be released,

:09:45. > :09:50.People who are tricked into transferring money

:09:51. > :09:53.from their bank accounts to fraudsters deserve better

:09:54. > :09:54.protection, according to the consumer group,

:09:55. > :09:57.It's made a so-called 'super-complaint' which forces

:09:58. > :10:00.financial regulators to look at whether the public should be

:10:01. > :10:02.given more protection, as our business correspondent

:10:03. > :10:09.To people like Christopher in York, it seems our bank

:10:10. > :10:13.He was tricked by e-mail into sending a ?10,000 house deposit

:10:14. > :10:16.to a fraudster posing as his estate agent.

:10:17. > :10:21.It's just like being burgled at home.

:10:22. > :10:25.Something is missing and you can't get it back.

:10:26. > :10:29.The scammer was so clever in that the first e-mail was exactly

:10:30. > :10:35.the same details to what came from the estate agents.

:10:36. > :10:38.In trying to deal with bank transfer fraud, Which?

:10:39. > :10:41.wants an investigation into the scale of the problem and,

:10:42. > :10:43.crucially, greater liability for banks so customers are better

:10:44. > :10:50.Where the liability has been shifted to the banks,

:10:51. > :10:53.we have seen them take some really good steps in credit and debit cards

:10:54. > :10:59.We haven't seen that same action with bank

:11:00. > :11:01.transfers and that's because, we believe, they are

:11:02. > :11:03.Hello, it's Nigel Freeman from the bank.

:11:04. > :11:09.Banks launched a campaign this week to warn people,

:11:10. > :11:13.but their fraud body says reimbursing victims would be wrong.

:11:14. > :11:20.If we refund willy-nilly it won't encourage anybody to be

:11:21. > :11:23.careful and the whole point of our Take Five campaign

:11:24. > :11:25.that we launched earlier this week is to try to get people

:11:26. > :11:28.to understand how they can be scammed and how to stop

:11:29. > :11:31.But tens of thousands like Chris have lost out.

:11:32. > :11:35.Most never knew that it's often the customer who takes the hit.

:11:36. > :11:38.The Prime Minsiter says that every effort must be made to stop

:11:39. > :11:40.the legal system being abused over allegations of serious

:11:41. > :11:47.Theresa May told defence chiefs she is determined to stop

:11:48. > :11:49.vexatious claims being brought against the armed forces.

:11:50. > :11:51.Two separate inquiries are investigating around 2,000

:11:52. > :11:57.allegations against troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

:11:58. > :12:00.There's no evidence that plans to expand grammar schools in England

:12:01. > :12:01.will raise overall educational standards,

:12:02. > :12:08.The Education Policy Institute argues the policy could also widen

:12:09. > :12:11.the attainment gap between rich and poor children.

:12:12. > :12:13.The government has rejected the findings and says new grammars

:12:14. > :12:19.will help every child fulfil their potential.

:12:20. > :12:23.The FBI says it's gathering information about an alleged

:12:24. > :12:25.incident involving the Hollywood star Brad Pitt and his children

:12:26. > :12:30.It said it was still evaluating whether to launch an investigation.

:12:31. > :12:33.The actor's wife, Angelina Jolie, filed for divorce on Monday,

:12:34. > :12:41.She's asked for physical custody of their six children.

:12:42. > :12:46.A British man who lived as a goat in the Alps for three days has won

:12:47. > :12:49.one of this year's Ig Nobel prizes - the spoof awards which recognise

:12:50. > :12:52.amusing or sometimes bizarre scientific research.

:12:53. > :12:56.Tom Thwaites said the artificial limbs he made to walk and trot

:12:57. > :12:59.with the goats could help the design of equipment for humans.

:13:00. > :13:01.A study which examined the personalities of rocks

:13:02. > :13:05.was also honoured - as were the team who examined why

:13:06. > :13:08.the world looks different when you bend over and look at it

:13:09. > :13:20.It takes all sorts! More from me at 9:30am. What was going through that

:13:21. > :13:32.goat's mind as he watched him? If your loved one was in the

:13:33. > :13:37.vegetative state with no hope of recovery, what would you do? And who

:13:38. > :13:41.should decide who to turn off life support? Let us know your thoughts.

:13:42. > :13:45.And let us know your thoughts on everything you have been -- we have

:13:46. > :13:50.been talking about this morning. We'll start with cricket

:13:51. > :13:53.because we have a really exciting conclusion on our

:13:54. > :14:04.hands to the season. Yes a dramatic finale of the County

:14:05. > :14:07.Championship rumbles on for a fourth and final day. Somerset beat

:14:08. > :14:12.Nottinghamshire and they can win the title for the first time in their

:14:13. > :14:17.history, but only if today's match between Yorkshire and Middlesex ends

:14:18. > :14:21.in a drawer. Yorkshire aiming for a third straight title and yesterday

:14:22. > :14:26.showed nerves against Middlesex, but soon got into their groove with a

:14:27. > :14:30.century by Tim Bresnan, which help to guide Yorkshire towards the bonus

:14:31. > :14:38.points needed to keep the title chase alive. Play resumes at 10:30am

:14:39. > :14:40.with Middlesex on 81-2, 39 runs behind. Whoever wins this will be

:14:41. > :14:40.champions. Turning attentions to football now,

:14:41. > :14:42.and Rangers and Celtic are going to meet in

:14:43. > :14:52.the Scottish League Cup? In the semifinals and it will be the

:14:53. > :14:57.second old firm derby in as many months. Celtic thrashed Rangers 5-1

:14:58. > :15:02.in the premiership a couple of weeks ago and the latest clash will be on

:15:03. > :15:06.the 22nd or 23rd of October. Aberdeen are through to the last

:15:07. > :15:14.four after beating St Johnstone. It was a late goal by Adam Rooney that

:15:15. > :15:15.gave them the win. They play Morton next, in their first League Cup

:15:16. > :15:17.semifinal in 37 years. Finally Jessica, if you're

:15:18. > :15:19.booking a skiiing holiday in the years to come,

:15:20. > :15:30.you could be asked to help out It is an interesting initiative from

:15:31. > :15:34.the governing body, British ski and snowboard, encouraging people to

:15:35. > :15:39.donate to British winter sports when they book skiing holidays or by ski

:15:40. > :15:49.equipment. The chief executive wants better financial investment for the

:15:50. > :15:53.Winter Olympics counterparts. He is suggesting a ?1 contribution from

:15:54. > :15:58.holiday-makers could transform Britain's fortunes in future Winter

:15:59. > :16:04.Olympics. At the Sochi games, Jenny Jones won a bronze medal in the

:16:05. > :16:08.snowboard, the first British Olympic medal on snow and that success has

:16:09. > :16:12.led to an increase in participation but at elite level athletes are

:16:13. > :16:19.struggling financially compared to more dominant nations. That is all

:16:20. > :16:20.the sport. Just after 10am, I will have a Paralympic champion with me,

:16:21. > :16:23.Kadeena Cox. If your loved one was in a permanent

:16:24. > :16:26.vegetative state with no hope Would you want to withdraw

:16:27. > :16:32.treatment, or would you want Regardless of your answer,

:16:33. > :16:35.that decision is not in your hands. It instead lies with medical teams

:16:36. > :16:38.and the Court of Protection, something families and campaigners

:16:39. > :16:42.say needs to be stopped In a moment, we'll talk to people

:16:43. > :16:47.who have experienced this predicament with a loved one,

:16:48. > :16:50.as well as experts on the issue, but first, Sanchia Berg joins us

:16:51. > :17:02.now. , Sanchia, what is a permanent

:17:03. > :17:06.vegetative state, the condition we are talking about? Many people will

:17:07. > :17:11.be familiar with a coma, where someone is asleep and they show no

:17:12. > :17:16.signs of response. The next step from that is a vegetative state,

:17:17. > :17:22.whether our cycles of sleeping and waking, the eyes will open and move,

:17:23. > :17:27.but they are not responding to the environment or the people around

:17:28. > :17:32.them. The stage after that is called minimally conscious state, and that

:17:33. > :17:37.is where people showed more signs of responsiveness, but again, it is a

:17:38. > :17:41.long way from being conscious. When it comes to vegetative states,

:17:42. > :17:46.doctors can determine that someone is in a permanent vegetative state

:17:47. > :17:52.either 12 months after a traumatic injury, or six months after a

:17:53. > :17:58.non-traumatic incident, such as Jodie Simpson, who took an overdose.

:17:59. > :18:02.We will be speaking to Jodie's family in a moment, but if someone

:18:03. > :18:06.is in that situation and the family decided his time to withdraw

:18:07. > :18:13.treatment, who gets to make the call and what happens? It is complicated.

:18:14. > :18:19.You might remember the case of Tony Bland, a football fan left in a coma

:18:20. > :18:24.after Hillsborough. His doctors saw no prospect of him improving, he was

:18:25. > :18:28.in a vegetative state. They went to the courts to decide and it went all

:18:29. > :18:35.the way to the house of Lords. They determined that doctors could remove

:18:36. > :18:38.his feeding tube, because this constituted treatment. As the

:18:39. > :18:43.treatment wasn't helping him, they could withhold that, and that way,

:18:44. > :18:46.he could die. When they made the decision, the house of lords said it

:18:47. > :18:52.would be good practice for other cases like this to come to the

:18:53. > :18:57.courts. So ever since, there has been the practice of doctors

:18:58. > :19:00.repairing these cases up to the court of -- referring these cases up

:19:01. > :19:06.to the Court of protection to make a decision. If you look at the

:19:07. > :19:09.guidance from the Royal College of physicians, they will say it is

:19:10. > :19:13.English law that you have to take these cases to the Court of

:19:14. > :19:16.protection. But I have spoken to a leading lawyer at the Court of

:19:17. > :19:21.protection who has been looking there are closely at this, and he

:19:22. > :19:27.says it is not for but it has become a very well established practice. It

:19:28. > :19:32.is not a convert of process with someone saying that you can't have

:19:33. > :19:36.your wish is granted? This is a good point. We're not talking about

:19:37. > :19:41.families who don't want the feeding tube taken away. We're talking about

:19:42. > :19:44.families who very sadly have accepted that there is almost no

:19:45. > :19:48.prospect of their relative recovering. They have come to this

:19:49. > :19:53.decision and agree with the doctors. Where families do want to continue

:19:54. > :19:59.feeding, if there is a dispute, it should go to the courts. No one is

:20:00. > :20:08.arguing about that. Thank you, Sanchia. We can now speak to Jean

:20:09. > :20:13.Simpson, Jodie's more the -- mother, and her brother. Also with us,

:20:14. > :20:14.Professor Jenny Kitzinger who has written a report

:20:15. > :20:16.on the families experience, and Professor Derick

:20:17. > :20:17.Wade, a consultant in neurological rehabilitation.

:20:18. > :20:31.Jean, your daughter Jodie was in a permanent vegetative state

:20:32. > :20:37.thank you for speaking to others about what has obviously been a very

:20:38. > :20:41.difficult decision for your family. How difficult a decision was a? I

:20:42. > :20:48.thought she should not be in that condition. From my nursing

:20:49. > :20:59.experience, I knew she would not get any better. I knew by the damage

:21:00. > :21:10.that was done that it was metabolic, irreversible damage. We just faced a

:21:11. > :21:21.future of her never improving but her body being alive. We had no

:21:22. > :21:25.hope. Michael, Jodie was in that state. You had obviously taken the

:21:26. > :21:32.decision as a family and reconciled yourselves to it - what then

:21:33. > :21:36.happens? It took a lot of time to come to that decision. I was quite

:21:37. > :21:40.happy that she was still here at first, but I did not know the impact

:21:41. > :21:45.of the situation she was going to be in and the toll it would take on the

:21:46. > :21:49.family and that it would lead us to this decision. Pretty soon, perhaps

:21:50. > :21:54.a year after the accident, I knew then that for the rest of the

:21:55. > :22:00.family, for myself and everybody, and Jodie herself, we had to take

:22:01. > :22:05.this decision. It sounds like you both had a slightly different

:22:06. > :22:09.reaction at the beginning. It was only through my experience. I think

:22:10. > :22:15.I alienate it quite a few people by not having hope from the beginning,

:22:16. > :22:20.but I did know, through my nursing experience, that it wasn't going to

:22:21. > :22:24.get any better. I think it came across quite hard to some people,

:22:25. > :22:32.and it did cause friction that I thought she should not be here now.

:22:33. > :22:38.All I could see was years and years of heartache ahead. When everyone

:22:39. > :22:43.did end up being agreed on it, did you expect it to take so long? No.

:22:44. > :22:49.I've spent most of the last format years at loggerheads with various

:22:50. > :22:56.authorities that were in charge, if you could call it in charge. I was

:22:57. > :23:00.talking to Sanchia, and she was saying it is not convert, it is a

:23:01. > :23:05.process where it is deemed to be best practice that when a decision

:23:06. > :23:08.is taken to withdraw treatment in this situation, the Court of

:23:09. > :23:14.protection is involved. Did you feel you were fighting? I did feel as if

:23:15. > :23:20.I was fighting the professionals, the medics. I did a lot of research.

:23:21. > :23:24.I have come across people like this in my working life, but they were in

:23:25. > :23:34.situations where they were in their own homes. The situation was under

:23:35. > :23:39.control. I wasn't involved in the dynamics of everyday life, I maybe

:23:40. > :23:42.went in to do a dressing. To see my daughter lying there, day in, day

:23:43. > :23:47.out, with no hope of recovery, I felt I was banging my head against a

:23:48. > :23:54.brick wall a lot of times. I felt that the trust had just come after

:23:55. > :24:06.ten weeks in hospital, put her in a room and funded it full stop. I had

:24:07. > :24:10.to push for a meetings. My aim at the very beginning was for her not

:24:11. > :24:18.to live like this. What did that do to the family? It destroyed us.

:24:19. > :24:26.Yeah, it affected everybody differently. People had different

:24:27. > :24:30.opinions. I have brothers and sisters, and everybody's opinion,

:24:31. > :24:36.until you're in that situation and UC Jodie as we were, day in, day

:24:37. > :24:40.out, lying in that same situation, you cannot understand why we had to

:24:41. > :24:45.come to that decision. Us to continue and get on with our lives,

:24:46. > :24:50.we had to say goodbye to her in her physical form. Even though her

:24:51. > :24:53.spirit, I believe, had left format years ago. And you were being

:24:54. > :25:04.dragged through a process that had gone on for years? At first, we felt

:25:05. > :25:09.guilty. It was not our decision to make, anyway, which eased the

:25:10. > :25:13.tension a little bit. Can you explain that? We could not make the

:25:14. > :25:18.decision about whether they would withdraw treatment or not. So that

:25:19. > :25:23.helped in the end? It did. You didn't feel as though you were

:25:24. > :25:28.pushing for her to pass away. With that in mind, how do you see the

:25:29. > :25:31.process? You felt it helpful that the doctors and the courts had an

:25:32. > :25:38.involvement because it takes the weight off you a bit, but the

:25:39. > :25:43.process is prolonged. How would it work best? It was the way that it

:25:44. > :25:49.was handled that it made it prolonged. They did not follow the

:25:50. > :25:54.guidelines they should have. Let's bring in Jenny, because you have

:25:55. > :26:00.been researching Jodie's situation and you have had personal experience

:26:01. > :26:04.in your own family. Your sister suffered a brain from. You're an

:26:05. > :26:09.academic who has been looking at all the issues around this. What is

:26:10. > :26:19.perspective? I and my colleagues have researched with 75 individuals,

:26:20. > :26:22.around 45 families, and this situation is happening all over

:26:23. > :26:26.England and Wales, families who slowly, over time, come to decide

:26:27. > :26:30.that their loved one would not want to live like that. And the doctors

:26:31. > :26:35.are in agreement that it is futile. Instead of the doctors being able to

:26:36. > :26:39.make the decision with the family, there is this lengthy and

:26:40. > :26:42.complicated process of preparing for court, and often, the doctors and

:26:43. > :26:48.funding bodies involved don't know quite how to do that, and it drags

:26:49. > :26:55.on for years, adding unnecessary, I would say, assault to the patient.

:26:56. > :26:59.It could actually be resolved with proper expertise and care, without

:27:00. > :27:08.involving the court. Can that actually be achieved, Professor

:27:09. > :27:14.Wade? Can someone do it in a swift way? I think they can, if they want

:27:15. > :27:20.an expectation if not an actual requirement to go to court. Jean is

:27:21. > :27:25.quite correct, the decision that, the final decision, is made by the

:27:26. > :27:31.clinical team, not Mrs hourly the doctor. And the family's role is to

:27:32. > :27:35.advise the clinical team on what the person concerned would want, and

:27:36. > :27:38.that is correct. If, having made that decision, they could then

:27:39. > :27:47.execute that decision and decide to withdraw treatment of whatever the

:27:48. > :27:53.changes, it would be very much easier that the clinical team is

:27:54. > :27:56.advised they have to go to court, and they don't necessarily have that

:27:57. > :28:01.expertise will stop and nobody else has that expertise, solicitors

:28:02. > :28:06.don't. So the whole thing drags on. Why does it have to go to court with

:28:07. > :28:15.Mike if it has been going on for appearing of time and every is no

:28:16. > :28:22.hope of recovery,... I don't believe it does have to go to court. In the

:28:23. > :28:26.case of Tony Bland, the court said that cases should come. We also said

:28:27. > :28:31.the process should be developed so that they did not need to come, but

:28:32. > :28:40.it was never developed. A practice direction was sent around in 2015.

:28:41. > :28:46.How binding is a practice direction? Could it be tested? I am not a

:28:47. > :28:55.lawyer, so I can't say how binding it is. My understanding is that it

:28:56. > :29:01.is binding and we have to go to court. Did you look at doing it that

:29:02. > :29:07.way, Jean, trying to avoid the Court of protection? Yes. Did you get very

:29:08. > :29:11.far? At first, when you don't know much about it, you want to be guided

:29:12. > :29:18.by the experts. But eventually, it dawned on me that I don't think they

:29:19. > :29:22.knew what they were doing. I was researching and telling them

:29:23. > :29:26.different things I had found on the internet is about expert witnesses,

:29:27. > :29:31.what the court would require, even how long they could make a

:29:32. > :29:38.diagnosis. They could have made a diagnosis in six months will stop

:29:39. > :29:51.because of botched ups, it took to make years to get a diagnosis.

:29:52. > :29:57.Avila has tweeted: I would not want to be kept alive by a machine if I

:29:58. > :30:04.was in that state it is not a life. Another says: There should not be a

:30:05. > :30:11.grey area around the law for people in aid permanent vegetative state.

:30:12. > :30:15.How difficult is it when you're trying to second-guess what someone

:30:16. > :30:17.would have wanted? We weren't second-guessing. It was what the

:30:18. > :30:29.your evaluation was? We knew she would not want to live

:30:30. > :30:35.in this condition. It was a living death. She did not have a drink of

:30:36. > :30:43.water in four years. What was she like? She was a vibrant personality.

:30:44. > :30:47.She enjoyed life. I had a conversation with her three, four

:30:48. > :30:53.weeks before what happened, talking about a case, a gentleman with

:30:54. > :30:59.locked in syndrome. She said, if I were in that situation, shoot me.

:31:00. > :31:04.She was blase, but we did not expect something like this to happen four

:31:05. > :31:10.weeks later. Knowing my sister and how she lived her life, how full of

:31:11. > :31:14.life she was, and she has no quality-of-life, and like my mum

:31:15. > :31:20.said, she could not take a drink of water. There is no response. It was

:31:21. > :31:26.not a life. And to see her in that situation, it is not a life for us.

:31:27. > :31:34.Extraordinary you have that conversation with her. It is ironic,

:31:35. > :31:38.looking back. When a family have had a conversation like that and they

:31:39. > :31:43.can say to the doctors, this is how she would have felt, how is that

:31:44. > :31:50.treated? It is not legally binding. It is taken into account in their

:31:51. > :31:54.best interest decision and so those wishes are weighed in the balance

:31:55. > :31:59.with things like sanctity of life and the doctors' views. The only way

:32:00. > :32:05.to make sure your wishes take precedence is to write down in a

:32:06. > :32:13.living will. If she had said if I am in a vegetative state and I do not

:32:14. > :32:17.want... That would be legally binding. At six months she could've

:32:18. > :32:21.been diagnosed and been allowed to die with peace and dignity as the

:32:22. > :32:27.family believed she would have wanted. One reviewer said my sisters

:32:28. > :32:31.and I had to decide about withdrawing aid and it is hard to

:32:32. > :32:35.see your family falling apart and we are not sure we made the right

:32:36. > :32:41.decision. Is there hope, when someone has been like that a long

:32:42. > :32:44.time, that they can recover? They may have thought they made a

:32:45. > :32:50.decision that they were misinformed by the medical team. The decision is

:32:51. > :32:55.a health care decision, they advise, they do not decide. If they were led

:32:56. > :33:04.to believe they were making a decision, that is incorrect and

:33:05. > :33:06.demonstrates the general failure for most people to know and understand

:33:07. > :33:13.the law, but coming back to hope, it is true to say on occasion people

:33:14. > :33:18.change after the time that so-called permanence has been achieved, but

:33:19. > :33:24.the change is small, very rare and rarely worthwhile. I think we have

:33:25. > :33:29.to understand there is uncertainty in medicine and we expect a degree

:33:30. > :33:36.of certainty in this situation never achieved in any other aspect of

:33:37. > :33:39.medicine, the degree of certainty about how conscious someone is and

:33:40. > :33:50.the degree of certainty about what the future will hold. The balance of

:33:51. > :33:55.probability is still will not change after six months. And you do not

:33:56. > :34:04.think it is the wrong decision? I was resolute. I did know, by

:34:05. > :34:08.reading, researching, it was not our decision to make. It was whether we

:34:09. > :34:10.agreed or disagreed, but it was not our decision to make. Thanks for

:34:11. > :34:12.coming in. We've had this statement

:34:13. > :34:16.from the Ministry of Justice. A female police

:34:17. > :34:45.officer in Oklahoma is charged with manslaughter after shooting

:34:46. > :34:54.dead a black suspect. We'll talk to activists

:34:55. > :34:57.who's been protesting about the issue in Charlotte -

:34:58. > :34:59.where another black man And we talk to a mother whose

:35:00. > :35:03.fifteen year old daughter was raped and killed during a family holiday

:35:04. > :35:06.to Goa eight years ago. Today a court in India

:35:07. > :35:09.returns its verdict on the two men Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:35:10. > :35:16.with a summary of the news. The internet giant Yahoo is under

:35:17. > :35:23.pressure to explain how it failed to notice for two years

:35:24. > :35:26.what is thought to have been The company has urged its customers

:35:27. > :35:30.to consider changing their passwords after hackers stole information

:35:31. > :35:32.from half a billion accounts. Yahoo said the breach

:35:33. > :35:34.included names and emails, The Syrian city of Aleppo has

:35:35. > :35:40.come under a fresh wave Rescue workers say they have seen

:35:41. > :35:47.Russian warplanes over the city. There were heavy attacks overnight;

:35:48. > :35:54.as the Syrian government announced a new offensive to take

:35:55. > :35:56.the rebel-held east of the city. The latest fighting comes

:35:57. > :35:59.as the United States and Russia - at talks in New York -

:36:00. > :36:02.failed to revive a ceasefire. Prosecutors in the US State

:36:03. > :36:06.of Oklahoma have charged a white policewoman who shot an unarmed

:36:07. > :36:09.black man, with manslaughter. Video footage has emerged showing

:36:10. > :36:11.the man walking away from officers Meanwhile, protesters

:36:12. > :36:18.have defied a curfew put in place in Charlotte,

:36:19. > :36:20.North Carolina, where people have been gathering

:36:21. > :36:22.for the past three nights. The demonstrations follow

:36:23. > :36:24.the killing of a black man by police on Tuesday,

:36:25. > :36:28.but officers decided against enforcing the curfew,

:36:29. > :36:32.as protests were largely peaceful. There have been calls for footage

:36:33. > :36:47.of the shooting to be released, The chief executive of Sports Direct

:36:48. > :36:52.has resigned and will be replaced by founder Mike Ashley. The company has

:36:53. > :36:57.attracted criticism over working practices after it emerged staff at

:36:58. > :37:02.warehouses were paid less than the minimum wage. It is not clear why he

:37:03. > :37:07.has left. The Prime Minister says every effort must be made to stop

:37:08. > :37:12.the legal system being abused over allegations of serious misconduct by

:37:13. > :37:17.UK troops. Theresa May said she is determined to stop vexatious claims

:37:18. > :37:20.brought against the Armed Forces. Two separate enquiries are

:37:21. > :37:23.investigating 2000 allegations against troops who served in Iraq

:37:24. > :37:23.and Afghanistan. That's a summary of the latest

:37:24. > :37:35.BBC News - more at 10. Middlesex resume against Yorkshire

:37:36. > :37:40.in a dramatic finale to the County Championship. They are on 81-2 in

:37:41. > :37:45.the second innings and a win for either team will secure the title.

:37:46. > :37:49.Aberdeen complete the line-up for the Scottish League Cup semifinals

:37:50. > :37:55.after beating St Johnstone. They will play Morton and Rangers Celtic

:37:56. > :38:00.in the other match. A rusty Ronnie O'Sullivan has been knocked out of

:38:01. > :38:05.the Shanghai Masters, losing to fellow Englishman Michael Holt in

:38:06. > :38:08.his first tournament since the World Championships in April.

:38:09. > :38:12.Holiday-makers are being asked to fund British Olympians when they

:38:13. > :38:16.booked trips abroad. The governing body British ski and snowboard will

:38:17. > :38:19.set up a fund the customers to donate when they book their

:38:20. > :38:21.holidays. I will be back just after 10am.

:38:22. > :38:26.Scarlett Keeling, a 15 year-old British girl,

:38:27. > :38:28.was found dead on an Indian beach in 2008.

:38:29. > :38:32.More than eight and a half years later, a verdict on the two men

:38:33. > :38:34.accused of killing her is finally due later this morning.

:38:35. > :38:37.Her mother, Fiona, has been battling for justice ever since Scarlett

:38:38. > :38:40.was found raped and murdered on a family holiday to Goa.

:38:41. > :38:43.Earlier I asked her how she was feeling as she awaited the verdict.

:38:44. > :38:49.I've got no idea what the outcome will be.

:38:50. > :38:56.What has it been like being there through the court process?

:38:57. > :39:01.It's quite hard work, it's quite harrowing.

:39:02. > :39:03.It's very different to our systems at home.

:39:04. > :39:08.It's just a little room, and everybody sort of crams into it.

:39:09. > :39:12.And have you felt that you have faith in the system there?

:39:13. > :39:19.I have to have faith that there will be some decent

:39:20. > :39:27.You had to fight to actually get to this stage, didn't you?

:39:28. > :39:29.Because initially the police said that Scarlett's death

:39:30. > :39:35.You had to fight to get it investigated beyond that.

:39:36. > :39:38.Looking back, how do you feel about what you have had to go

:39:39. > :39:53.I think the police lying at the beginning and the government

:39:54. > :39:56.backing them up at the time has made this whole thing much worse than it

:39:57. > :40:00.What did it take for you to actually keep pushing?

:40:01. > :40:09.Scarlett's memories and just the fact that she was a good kid

:40:10. > :40:14.and she enjoyed life and was looking forward to her future.

:40:15. > :40:17.Tell us more about Scarlett and what she was like.

:40:18. > :40:21.She wanted to be more grown-up than she was.

:40:22. > :40:33.She used to sing at the top of her voice in the supermarket.

:40:34. > :40:39.She used to ride horses a lot - we had horses - and she loved that.

:40:40. > :40:42.We used to swim, all of us used to get into the sea

:40:43. > :40:50.Go back to the moment, if you will, when you were on the family holiday

:40:51. > :40:55.and it ended up in a situation where Scarlett was in

:40:56. > :41:01.She'd wanted to go to a Valentine's party.

:41:02. > :41:08.I had let her stay behind with Julio to work for a period of time,

:41:09. > :41:10.providing he brought her down to join us.

:41:11. > :41:13.And Julio was a family friend, was he?

:41:14. > :41:16.He was a guy that we'd met, yes, and I'd questioned him

:41:17. > :41:24.about his intentions with Scarlett, and he had a girlfriend,

:41:25. > :41:28.She was good for business and that they were

:41:29. > :41:30.friends, and it was quite believable, you know?

:41:31. > :41:32.He was giving her good food and making sure

:41:33. > :41:34.she went to bed early, things like that.

:41:35. > :41:37.He convinced me that he was being a good carer for her.

:41:38. > :41:42.He used to take my other children out with him for breakfast as well,

:41:43. > :41:45.And so you felt comfortable leaving Scarlett

:41:46. > :41:50.I'd seen the room she was going to be staying in,

:41:51. > :41:52.I had dinner with the aunts, we've been over there

:41:53. > :41:57.It seemed like a safe environment, yeah.

:41:58. > :41:59.You have been criticised by people who said you should

:42:00. > :42:07.No one will obviously understand how you have run through the scenarios

:42:08. > :42:10.in your head over and over again, no doubt, over the years.

:42:11. > :42:23.on the beach on her own or with her 29-year-old boyfriend.

:42:24. > :42:25.He wasn't her boyfriend, and I didn't leave her on her own.

:42:26. > :42:31.So I try not to take what they say personally.

:42:32. > :42:34.And, you know, obviously I'll regret that decision for the rest

:42:35. > :42:40.of my life that I let her go to that party.

:42:41. > :42:45.I wish more than anything I said no and kept her with us,

:42:46. > :42:49.but I can't change the past and I have to accept it and get on.

:42:50. > :42:53.Is it something that you have beaten yourself up about?

:42:54. > :42:57.A little, I guess. A little, I guess.

:42:58. > :43:00.It didn't help with, you know, the wrong facts coming out

:43:01. > :43:05.and people criticising me about things that weren't true.

:43:06. > :43:12.Have you had... What sort of support have you had?

:43:13. > :43:13.You've got a big family, haven't you?

:43:14. > :43:18.Yes, and I've got family and friends that support me.

:43:19. > :43:20.The press in India are very supportive,

:43:21. > :43:24.they want the same outcome as I do.

:43:25. > :43:33.Yeah, no, I've got lots of friends that give me support.

:43:34. > :43:38.What difference will the verdict today make to you?

:43:39. > :43:42.Well, it's going to be the end of a huge, a huge sort of struggle

:43:43. > :43:46.Even though it won't be completely the end, because if it's a guilty

:43:47. > :43:49.verdict they will appeal, and if it's not guilty, hopefully

:43:50. > :43:56.So it's going to be the end of a long wait.

:43:57. > :44:02.Eight years since Scarlett was killed.

:44:03. > :44:03.Do you live with it every day?

:44:04. > :44:19.And when do you think, and what do you think?

:44:20. > :44:22.I usually think about her when it's quiet.

:44:23. > :44:27.I think about how much she's missing.

:44:28. > :44:31.She is missing the other children growing up,

:44:32. > :44:35.missing my grandchildren, and she's missing, you know...

:44:36. > :44:40.I see her friends still, and they're the same age

:44:41. > :44:42.that she would have been now if she had been alive.

:44:43. > :44:45.So, you know, I think about that sort of thing.

:44:46. > :44:47.Is it hard being back there in India?

:44:48. > :45:00.It makes it all fresh in my mind so, yeah, of course it's hard.

:45:01. > :45:03.And how have your other children coped with what's happened?

:45:04. > :45:07.You know, I'm sure it's changed them.

:45:08. > :45:09.They've got on with their lives, obviously, they are

:45:10. > :45:14.They were all little when they were out here.

:45:15. > :45:40.I don't know, really. It hasn't made me not trust people, it hasn't made

:45:41. > :45:47.me wary. I've always got a fear that I could lose another child. My boys

:45:48. > :45:54.ride motorbikes, I think that is quite normal. After today, what will

:45:55. > :46:00.you do? Hopefully we will celebrate, get a guilty verdict. Otherwise, we

:46:01. > :46:12.will go with plan B, try to think of something else.

:46:13. > :46:25.We're expecting the verdict after 10am, and we will bring it to you as

:46:26. > :46:27.we get it. Thousands of people are demonstrating in Ireland for

:46:28. > :46:30.abortion to be legal. We will speak to people on both sides of the

:46:31. > :46:32.debate. With the controversy continuing

:46:33. > :46:35.about Great British Bake-off leaving the BBC and many of its stars

:46:36. > :46:37.leaving the show altogether, we'll talk to the stars of bake-off

:46:38. > :46:45.programmes around the world. The nation's favourite baking couple

:46:46. > :46:49.has been cast asunder, who will step into Mary's shoes and can they hope

:46:50. > :47:03.to capture the same kind of magic with Paul and another person?

:47:04. > :47:19.What gives the moisture here? It is the beef fruit and the wine. Sorry,

:47:20. > :47:26.Ian. You've got your own freezer, haven't you? It has all melted. Why

:47:27. > :47:40.would you take it out of the freezer? How was it looking? Soup.

:47:41. > :47:54.Nadia! CHEERING

:47:55. > :47:57.And then, some rather special marron glace to go on top of it.

:47:58. > :48:00.It's baked perfectly, you haven't got too much of a soggy bottom.

:48:01. > :48:02.I'd like you just to colout it. It doesn't look appetising.

:48:03. > :48:08.What you have done basically is you have made

:48:09. > :48:16.You can see the mottled effect on the top.

:48:17. > :48:43.We can speak now to fellow Bake Off judges

:48:44. > :48:58.And from Istanbul, Turkish Bake Off jugde Emel Basdogan.

:48:59. > :49:03.I just want to read out a few comments from twitter.

:49:04. > :49:07.Tom asks: Is the proof in the product or the people?

:49:08. > :49:10.Will be interesting to see how the ratings stack up between #GBBO

:49:11. > :49:15.Ali says: Come on, BBC, get Mary, Mel and Sue signed up

:49:16. > :49:17.How about James Martin to replace Paul?

:49:18. > :49:23.Tony jokes: The BBC are planning a GBBO rival, will it

:49:24. > :49:26.Imagine the chemistry between Mary Berry and James May.

:49:27. > :49:30.She says the BBC is to launch a rival Great British Bake Off show

:49:31. > :49:37.And "BB" speaks for a lot of other comments online -

:49:38. > :49:47.What do you think was my people will have their ideas about who should

:49:48. > :49:56.partner up and watch it happen, but it is the end of an error. It is,

:49:57. > :50:01.but it could be -- the end of an era. Yellow might there is a magic

:50:02. > :50:04.when you have a successful show that is about the relationship between

:50:05. > :50:08.the presenters and the public, and we have lost that. By pulling it

:50:09. > :50:12.apart, it won't be the same, but that does not mean it can't be

:50:13. > :50:28.better or that it can't work with advertising. Maybe there is a future

:50:29. > :50:33.for Bake Off. It does work in other parts of the world with different

:50:34. > :50:38.judges. Absolutely. What was your relationship with your fellow judge?

:50:39. > :50:43.Does everyone try to mimic Mary and Paul? Kind of, except I was Mary and

:50:44. > :50:48.she was Paul! I was the sweet one. And Carey, the Simon Cowell of cake,

:50:49. > :50:55.was the cross one. She sounds scary. He's worked in the best

:50:56. > :50:57.bakeries in the world. There is a tenderness, so intense,

:50:58. > :51:02.so rich, so inviting. Gorgeous, chewy,

:51:03. > :51:19.blindingly inventive. Completely different, the whole look

:51:20. > :51:27.and everything. The music, the colour. So much colour. Let's look

:51:28. > :51:32.at the Turkish version. What is it like with your setup? Were you aware

:51:33. > :51:40.of Mary and Paul when you came along with the Bake Off in Turkey? Were

:51:41. > :51:54.you trying to emulate that? None of us was Paul or Mary. We had eight

:51:55. > :51:57.totally authentic... Music and -- if these gang dance are not included,

:51:58. > :52:09.life is missing something. We had more cheerful manner. I was a very

:52:10. > :52:18.cheerful teacher who is very strict and disciplined. No stretching of

:52:19. > :52:24.the culinary rules. But it was full of music and dancing. My partner is

:52:25. > :52:31.a very charming and soft hearted person. We have been looking at the

:52:32. > :52:37.pictures of part of your show, and it does have a different look. And

:52:38. > :52:43.as you say, it involves dancing. Is it the judges who set the tone of

:52:44. > :52:50.something like that? It is strange, because in the first half of my

:52:51. > :52:58.life, I never danced. I was too shy. In the second half, I included

:52:59. > :53:08.dancing, which boosted my life, health, joy, success and everything.

:53:09. > :53:12.From that day on, even if you see me in the supermarket, look for a woman

:53:13. > :53:18.who is dancing. You screen tested with Mary. It could have been me. I

:53:19. > :53:25.would have chosen Paul - those blue eyes. Very magnanimous of you! What

:53:26. > :53:30.difference does it make to their way as show unfolds, with the dynamic

:53:31. > :53:40.between the presenting team and the focus on the tone of the show?

:53:41. > :53:44.The producers are looking for different points of view. If you

:53:45. > :53:47.people with different attitudes and different appearances, maybe they

:53:48. > :53:53.present a more diverse set of opinions about the cake, the tart,

:53:54. > :54:00.the beautiful lemon meringue pie. I love that. Maybe we offer something

:54:01. > :54:05.completely different. Who do you sort of see? We were reading out

:54:06. > :54:08.text from viewers and everyone has an opinion on who should be paired

:54:09. > :54:13.up with Paul and who should be paired up with Mary. Should it be a

:54:14. > :54:22.similar dynamic as Mike does it need to be an older woman with Paul and I

:54:23. > :54:27.younger man with Mary? Nigella and Paul, we might see. Even a Hollywood

:54:28. > :54:32.star or something. I think they will have to make it more glitzy and

:54:33. > :54:42.punchy. At the BBC, we can make things eloquently and really good. I

:54:43. > :54:46.always think of commercial stations as far and somehow and the lack of

:54:47. > :54:49.advertising at the British. Does the fact that the format has been

:54:50. > :54:55.successful around the world show that it is the format is the star

:54:56. > :54:59.and not the presenters? It can be, because people around the world love

:55:00. > :55:07.baking. Sometimes producers miss this. The thing that we love, from

:55:08. > :55:11.the tweets we were hearing, is that they are baking things on TV that

:55:12. > :55:15.you can do at home, and they can identify with the failures and

:55:16. > :55:21.successes. Who knew that baking would be so dramatic? Most of us, if

:55:22. > :55:25.we do it at home, it is a leisurely, relaxing pursuit. In Turkey, does it

:55:26. > :55:35.have viewers on the edge of their seats like it does here? Are you

:55:36. > :55:44.talking to me, Victoria? I am. The drama - who knew that it could be so

:55:45. > :55:50.dramatic? It can be, but we also need variety. I think it is an

:55:51. > :56:02.entertainment, even when we are baking at home. A TV show like Bake

:56:03. > :56:14.Off, which is so entertaining, can be open to more varieties. I agree

:56:15. > :56:20.with Michael that the change can be key to diversity and new excitement.

:56:21. > :56:26.They can be quite a different process that can be included in the

:56:27. > :56:32.show. As we said, you did a similar thing in Australia, where the Bake

:56:33. > :56:36.Off was switched from one channel to another. In that case, it went to a

:56:37. > :56:42.channel with adverts to one without, and brand-new presenters. What

:56:43. > :56:48.happened to the show's ratings? I have to be honest, they fell, partly

:56:49. > :56:54.because... Was that gratifying? Yes! It's difficult, because each time,

:56:55. > :56:58.you are playing with the magic that makes your show successful. When you

:56:59. > :57:09.move it, you know, hopefully, it will be OK. Ian has tweeted: Channel

:57:10. > :57:16.4 has rocked the public to play Paul. You have some experience of

:57:17. > :57:21.the show on a channel with adverts. How did that work? Fans are worried

:57:22. > :57:27.about what the adverts might mean for Bake Off here. For a lot of

:57:28. > :57:31.viewers, the history and the stories behind recipes are an important part

:57:32. > :57:38.of it. You need something before the advert breaks. Unless you extend the

:57:39. > :57:45.time. You can, but it is locked into advertising. You don't think there

:57:46. > :57:48.is much hope that? No. It is about creating a tension and a dynamic

:57:49. > :57:52.before the advert breaks that everyone comes back and waits to

:57:53. > :58:02.find out what happened. How does it work in Turkey? With the changes,

:58:03. > :58:07.how do you mean? Do you have advert breaks? There is a lot of concern

:58:08. > :58:13.that there will be advert breaks in Bake Off, and it is seen as

:58:14. > :58:19.sacrosanct that there are not. I did not get your question. Say it again,

:58:20. > :58:24.please. Don't worry. I'm going to ask you again, Dan. Would you screen

:58:25. > :58:35.test again? Absolutely. Wouldn't everybody? What could the BBC do? Is

:58:36. > :58:39.it obvious what the format could be on a baking show that would not be

:58:40. > :58:45.too closely aligned to the format? That could run into difficulties.

:58:46. > :58:49.People always ask what happens to the cakes. Of course, the crew eats

:58:50. > :58:53.all the cakes. Perhaps it could be done in a different way, where we

:58:54. > :59:00.brought the public in more, perhaps baking for a hospital or a school,

:59:01. > :59:04.or guys working on oil rigs or something like that. We could be

:59:05. > :59:09.helping in a different way. It could be about all of Britain rather than

:59:10. > :59:13.a paddock somewhere in the south. This sounds good. You should pitch

:59:14. > :59:22.it after you leave here! Thank you both very much. Just a reminder that

:59:23. > :59:25.we have a special programme... I thought we were talking about Bake

:59:26. > :59:26.Off, but it is something different altogether - the Labour leadership

:59:27. > :59:33.election. It's on BBC Two and the BBC

:59:34. > :59:36.News Channel from 11am. Let's get the latest weather

:59:37. > :59:46.update with Matt Taylor. Let us know about who you think

:59:47. > :59:48.should partner up alongside Mary and Paul. Let's get the weather with

:59:49. > :00:00.Matt. Temperatures were down to one or two

:00:01. > :00:06.Celsius in parts of the country but it was a glorious start with a lot

:00:07. > :00:13.of sunshine around. Exceptions most notably around South Wales. Some

:00:14. > :00:19.showers so far, but mostly dry but a changes on the way for Scotland and

:00:20. > :00:23.Northern Ireland. Cloud behind me turning sunshine increasingly hazy

:00:24. > :00:30.and by the afternoon, splashes of rain. Showers in South Wales should

:00:31. > :00:37.ease. Into the afternoon there will be more cloud around but sunny

:00:38. > :00:41.spells in much of England and Wales. East Anglia and the south-east will

:00:42. > :00:50.not be as warm as yesterday but with a gentle breeze, feeling pleasant.

:00:51. > :00:55.Sunshine turning hazy across North Wales and Northern End him. Hazy

:00:56. > :00:59.sunshine in eastern parts of Scotland. West of Scotland and

:01:00. > :01:09.Northern Ireland a different picture. Rain, heavy and persistent

:01:10. > :01:12.in parts of Scotland. With it comes stronger to gale force winds.

:01:13. > :01:20.Persistent rain returning to the west later here. For many, a dry

:01:21. > :01:27.night and temperatures holding up for many because we have low

:01:28. > :01:32.pressure pushing the weather. It is dragging up with it warmer air from

:01:33. > :01:37.the near continent, particularly Iberia. Temperatures holding up by

:01:38. > :01:43.night and feeling reasonably warm by day. Sunshine to begin with in

:01:44. > :01:49.England and Wales and eastern Scotland, elsewhere, a wet day.

:01:50. > :01:57.Strong winds. Rain pushing into western parts of Wales and England.

:01:58. > :02:02.But pleasantly warm in the South east corner. Saturday night into

:02:03. > :02:06.Sunday, winds shunted out of the way by the weather front that brings

:02:07. > :02:15.rain overnight and introduces westerly winds on Sunday morning.

:02:16. > :02:21.Temperatures cooler. In East Anglia and the south-east, rain eases away

:02:22. > :02:25.to sunshine. The rest of the country, sunshine and scattered

:02:26. > :02:32.showers but a blustery wind. Enjoy your weekend. Hello, it is

:02:33. > :02:35.Friday, it is 10am. Welcome to the programme. Coming up before 11.

:02:36. > :02:37.Hackers have stolen details of more than half a billion Yahoo customers

:02:38. > :02:39.worldwide in the biggest security breach ever committed.

:02:40. > :02:43.But why has it taken nearly two years for the company to explain how

:02:44. > :02:47.names, email addresses, and phone numbers were stolen in the scam.

:02:48. > :02:58.are expected to take to the streets calling

:02:59. > :03:02.in Ireland as thousands of women and girls travel to the UK every

:03:03. > :03:05.The mud slinging continues in the Hollywood divorce of former

:03:06. > :03:07.golden couple Brad Pitt and Angelia Jolie.

:03:08. > :03:23.Here's Annita McVeigh in the BBC Newsroom

:03:24. > :03:27.The internet giant Yahoo is under pressure to explain how it failed

:03:28. > :03:30.to notice for two years what is thought to have been

:03:31. > :03:35.The company has urged its customers to consider changing their passwords

:03:36. > :03:39.after hackers stole information from half a billion accounts.

:03:40. > :03:41.Yahoo said the breach included names and emails,

:03:42. > :03:51.If you have questions or concerns about cyber security you can put

:03:52. > :03:58.those two at internet expert who will be here to answer them for you

:03:59. > :04:00.at 11:30am on the BBC News Channel. You can get in touch via Twitter or

:04:01. > :04:04.text questions. The Syrian city of Aleppo has

:04:05. > :04:06.come under a fresh wave Rescue workers say they have seen

:04:07. > :04:12.Russian warplanes over the city. There were heavy attacks overnight

:04:13. > :04:14.as the Syrian government announced a new offensive to take

:04:15. > :04:17.the rebel-held east of the city. The latest fighting comes

:04:18. > :04:20.as the United States and Russia - at talks in New York -

:04:21. > :04:25.failed to revive a ceasefire. Prosecutors in the US State

:04:26. > :04:29.of Oklahoma have charged a white policewoman who shot an unarmed

:04:30. > :04:33.black man with manslaughter. Video footage has emerged showing

:04:34. > :04:48.the man walking away from officers We have love and forgiveness but

:04:49. > :04:54.that does not excuse the crime. I truly believe in accountability and

:04:55. > :05:01.there are consequences to action. And so again, we are just thankful

:05:02. > :05:04.that the TPD, the mayor, they did their full investigation and this is

:05:05. > :05:06.a small victory for us. Meanwhile, protesters

:05:07. > :05:07.have defied a curfew put in place in Charlotte,

:05:08. > :05:09.North Carolina, where people have been gathering

:05:10. > :05:15.for the past three nights. The demonstrations there follow

:05:16. > :05:17.the killing of a black man by police on Tuesday,

:05:18. > :05:19.but officers decided against enforcing the curfew,

:05:20. > :05:22.as protests were largely peaceful. There have been calls for footage

:05:23. > :05:24.of the shooting to be released, The family of a British schoolgirl

:05:25. > :05:30.murdered in India eight years ago will today hear the long-awaited

:05:31. > :05:33.verdict on the two men accused 15-year-old Scarlett Keeling

:05:34. > :05:39.was on a six-month family holiday when she was found dead

:05:40. > :05:43.on a beach in Goa. Scarlett's mother, Fiona MacKeown,

:05:44. > :05:46.has spent eight years trying to get justice for her daughter and has

:05:47. > :05:49.travelled to India for the verdict. It is going to be the end of a huge

:05:50. > :05:54.struggle and a wait. Even though it won't be

:05:55. > :05:57.completely the end, because if it is a guilty verdict,

:05:58. > :06:00.they will appeal, and if it is not guilty,

:06:01. > :06:03.the prosecution will appeal. It is going to be

:06:04. > :06:06.the end of a long wait. I usually think about

:06:07. > :06:12.her when it's quiet. I think about how

:06:13. > :06:15.much she is missing. Missing the other children growing

:06:16. > :06:18.up and missing my I see her friends still,

:06:19. > :06:25.they are the same age she would have The chief executive

:06:26. > :06:36.of Sports Direct has resigned. Dave Forsey will be replaced

:06:37. > :06:38.by the company's The company has attracted criticism

:06:39. > :06:42.over its working practices, after it emerged that staff

:06:43. > :06:44.at its warehouses were paid less It's not clear why

:06:45. > :06:48.Mr Forsey has left. The FBI says it's gathering

:06:49. > :06:51.information about an alleged incident involving the Hollywood

:06:52. > :06:54.star Brad Pitt and his children It said it was still evaluating

:06:55. > :07:05.whether to launch an investigation. The actor's wife, Angelina Jolie,

:07:06. > :07:08.filed for divorce on Monday, She's asked for physical custody

:07:09. > :07:15.of their six children. A British man who lived as a goat

:07:16. > :07:20.in the Alps for three days has won one of this year's Ig Nobel prizes -

:07:21. > :07:23.the spoof awards that recognise amusing or sometimes

:07:24. > :07:25.bizarre scientific research. Tom Thwaites said the artificial

:07:26. > :07:28.limbs he made to walk and trot with the goats could help the design

:07:29. > :07:34.of equipment for humans. A study that examined

:07:35. > :07:37.the personalities of rocks was also honoured -

:07:38. > :07:39.as were the team who examined why the world looks different

:07:40. > :07:42.when you bend over and look at it I find it hard to keep a straight

:07:43. > :07:48.face when reading that one! That's a summary of the latest BBC

:07:49. > :07:59.News - more at 10.30. I cannot imagine what he deemed that

:08:00. > :08:03.we could not glean more easily. We are talking about calls for abortion

:08:04. > :08:08.in Ireland to be made legal. Thousands are marching in Dublin on

:08:09. > :08:13.Saturday. Let us know your thoughts and everything else we have been

:08:14. > :08:17.talking about. We were talking about the Great British Bake Off and we

:08:18. > :08:20.would like to know who you think should partner with Mary Berry if

:08:21. > :08:28.they continue a baking show on the BBC. Hashtag Victoria Live is always

:08:29. > :08:33.useful if you want to put out your views.

:08:34. > :08:38.Over to Jessica. Good morning, I am joined by a Paralympic champion in

:08:39. > :08:47.not just one book two sports. Kadeena Cox is with me to reflect on

:08:48. > :08:51.an incredible couple of weeks. We will start in the Velodrome when you

:08:52. > :08:58.won A gold medal, what was your reaction? Anybody who saw it saw how

:08:59. > :09:03.emotional I was. It was the one to get with a double. To get the gold

:09:04. > :09:09.medal in the cycling. My hard work paid off. I had done it. On the

:09:10. > :09:14.track in the 400 metres, what possessed you to do two sports at

:09:15. > :09:19.one Olympics? It just happened that way. When I got back into running, I

:09:20. > :09:24.could not run and I got on the cycling bike and was looked at by

:09:25. > :09:28.British Cycling and they took a pause and I got back into running

:09:29. > :09:37.when they paused and then they came back and I ended up doing two. Are

:09:38. > :09:41.you aware of history you have made? The first British Paralympian to win

:09:42. > :09:47.the gold medal in two sports in 28 years. Were you aware of that

:09:48. > :09:53.history? I was. A lot of people have mentioned it. There was not going

:09:54. > :09:56.around on media before the games. Initially I was trying to do

:09:57. > :10:03.something different but I did not know it had not been done for long.

:10:04. > :10:11.Tell me how you got into Paralympic sport. It is two years yesterday

:10:12. > :10:18.since my MS diagnosis and in September 2014, following a strict

:10:19. > :10:27.diagnosis I got an MS diagnosis. My coach, he was a para coach. My coach

:10:28. > :10:34.said he would do anything to get me into any form of running and I just

:10:35. > :10:38.cracked on with it. MS is something that is aggravated by exercise, what

:10:39. > :10:46.effect does that have on trading and how you feel after competing? It is

:10:47. > :10:50.a balancing act. I have worked with the physio, doctors, physiologists,

:10:51. > :10:58.because it does send my body into a crazy mode. I get muscle spasms and

:10:59. > :11:05.during training, I can start to walk oddly. My arms start to spasm. It is

:11:06. > :11:10.tough, but we do a lot of high-quality stuff and not as much

:11:11. > :11:16.training, just to prevent too much fatigue from spasms. As much as it

:11:17. > :11:21.aggravates your MS, where do you think you would be without sporting

:11:22. > :11:26.your life? I do not think I would have survived without sport. It stop

:11:27. > :11:31.me going into depression and struggling with my diagnosis. I had

:11:32. > :11:36.sport to get me through. It gave me something to work for and everything

:11:37. > :11:49.I have done is to promote MS and show other people there are amazing

:11:50. > :11:52.things you can do after a diagnosis. It is not a death sentence, there is

:11:53. > :11:55.so much you can do. I have loved getting back into sport. Two years

:11:56. > :11:58.ago, I probably did not think I would be in this position. Carrying

:11:59. > :12:05.the flag at the closing ceremony, that must've been an honour? I not

:12:06. > :12:09.expect it. You dream about the medals and winning and world

:12:10. > :12:16.records, but having the opportunity to be flag bearer did not cross my

:12:17. > :12:21.mind. When I was called down by Penny Briscoe, I thought I was in

:12:22. > :12:26.trouble! Siva is like, we have something good to tell you. I was

:12:27. > :12:36.like, are you serious? Having an amazing games with so many amazing

:12:37. > :12:42.performances, to lead out with the flag, it was an honour. I was lost

:12:43. > :12:44.for words. Thanks for joining us and we hope to see you competing against

:12:45. > :12:47.scene. Back to you. The internet giant, Yahoo,

:12:48. > :12:50.is under pressure to explain how it failed to notice for two years

:12:51. > :12:53.what is thought to have been The company has urged its customers

:12:54. > :12:57.to consider changing their passwords after hackers stole information

:12:58. > :13:01.from half a billion accounts. Yahoo said the breach

:13:02. > :13:03.included names and emails, Robert Schifreen is a former

:13:04. > :13:09.computer hacker, now editor of the IT safety website

:13:10. > :13:21.Security Smart - he joins us Thanks for joining us, can you

:13:22. > :13:26.understand why it has taken two years for this to emerge? Frankly,

:13:27. > :13:33.no, it should not have taken this long. Yahoo has known about it a

:13:34. > :13:36.couple of years. There have been rumours that someone on the dark web

:13:37. > :13:45.has been trying to sell Yahoo accounts. Why it has taken so long

:13:46. > :13:51.we do not know and they owe it to us to explain why and also to have

:13:52. > :13:56.explained as soon as possible their accounts have been hacked. We needed

:13:57. > :13:59.to change our passwords. People might not have changed passwords

:14:00. > :14:04.when if they had known about it they would've done. Two years on, people

:14:05. > :14:08.are told to change their passwords, but if any damage was going to be

:14:09. > :14:15.done, would it be done already? To an extent, if you have changed it

:14:16. > :14:19.recently, change it again in case a hacker was watching you change it

:14:20. > :14:24.the first time. If you have used the same password on other systems, such

:14:25. > :14:28.as banking and shopping, change those passwords and in future did

:14:29. > :14:33.not use the same password on multiple accounts and then if

:14:34. > :14:39.hackers get one system, they have one and not all of your accounts.

:14:40. > :14:45.The passwords were encrypted. The hackers do not have passwords, but

:14:46. > :14:51.other information was not encrypted, such as security questions. If

:14:52. > :14:58.everything were encrypted, with this issue arise? It depends how well it

:14:59. > :15:02.was encrypted and when they -- where they stored the passwords to

:15:03. > :15:07.encrypted. They need passwords and private information to check what we

:15:08. > :15:11.have typed in is correct so somewhere on the system would be

:15:12. > :15:15.encrypted information and also passwords to break the encryption.

:15:16. > :15:20.Because the hackers have a two year head start, they may have been able

:15:21. > :15:25.to crack the encryption. We generally are seeing that happening,

:15:26. > :15:29.if someone gets a database of encrypted passwords, within weeks

:15:30. > :15:35.and months they can crack up to 80% of them so it is good they encrypted

:15:36. > :15:36.the passwords, but the fact the hackers had a head start is

:15:37. > :15:46.worrying. And Yahoo says it believes the

:15:47. > :15:52.hacking was state-sponsored. If that is the case, who might be behind it

:15:53. > :15:54.and why? That is interesting. They would be interesting if Yahoo told

:15:55. > :15:58.us which country they thought did it, which they are not saying. You

:15:59. > :16:04.would want to know which country has an interest in getting hold of 500

:16:05. > :16:08.million Yahoo accounts. It might be a country that doesn't like the US

:16:09. > :16:15.much and wants to destabilise its reputation as being secure. It might

:16:16. > :16:21.want to destabilise the deal led Yahoo is currently being sold. It

:16:22. > :16:27.seems odd to me, and if it is true, Yahoo needs to release more details.

:16:28. > :16:31.Thank you for joining us, Robert. Still to come: We are expecting the

:16:32. > :16:37.verdict shortly in the trial of the two men accused of murdering

:16:38. > :16:44.50-year-old Scarlett Keeling on a beach in Goa. As soon as it happens,

:16:45. > :16:49.we will bring you that. Thousands of people are expected

:16:50. > :16:51.to take to the streets of Dublin this Saturday,

:16:52. > :16:54.as part of the Rise and Repeal march, which calls for abortion

:16:55. > :16:56.in Ireland to be made legal. A woman can only terminate her

:16:57. > :17:00.pregnancy if her life or long term and girls in Ireland -

:17:01. > :17:10.that's just over nine people a day - travelled

:17:11. > :17:13.to the UK for a termination. Last month, two women made headlines

:17:14. > :17:16.when they live tweeted their journey The social media account

:17:17. > :17:19.Two Women Travel was set up by a pregnant Irish

:17:20. > :17:21.woman and her companion. They told Ireland's leader

:17:22. > :17:23.Enda Kenny that theirs That they were following in

:17:24. > :17:29.the footsteps of other Irish women Pro-choice campaigns are calling

:17:30. > :17:42.on the Irish government to repeal the Eighth amendment -

:17:43. > :17:44.which equates the right to life of a pregnant women

:17:45. > :17:46.with that of a foetus. Let's talk now to Janet O'Sullivan

:17:47. > :17:49.from Abortion Writes Campaign, the And Katie Ascough -

:17:50. > :17:56.a pro-life campaigner. I will come to you first, Janet,

:17:57. > :18:01.because you are organising this campaign. You travelled to London as

:18:02. > :18:05.a teenager for an abortion yourself, and you told no one but your

:18:06. > :18:08.immediate family about it for many years, but now you campaign. Tell us

:18:09. > :18:15.about your journey that has led you to this point. Good morning. Thank

:18:16. > :18:20.you for having me on. If I can clarify, abortion is only available

:18:21. > :18:27.in Ireland if there is immediate risk to life, not on health grounds.

:18:28. > :18:35.We cannot change our laws until we repeal the eighth Amendment. I've

:18:36. > :18:40.spoken about having travelled for an abortion when I was 18 and having an

:18:41. > :18:47.unplanned pregnancy. It is different from what it is now. We didn't have

:18:48. > :18:52.the internet. Abortion information is heavily restricted, and for years

:18:53. > :18:55.I didn't know I was one of 170,000 people who travelled from Ireland

:18:56. > :18:59.and give an address in Ireland when they go for an abortion in England.

:19:00. > :19:07.It affects birthrights as well as abortion rights. Medical consent in

:19:08. > :19:11.pregnancy, it has wide reaching effects. We need to end the shame

:19:12. > :19:19.and stigma around abortion. It takes women speaking out before the law

:19:20. > :19:22.gets change. We saw women in France speaking out before France legalised

:19:23. > :19:26.abortion, the same in Germany and the USA. I am one of the people who

:19:27. > :19:31.has been speaking out in the last few years to break the stigma and to

:19:32. > :19:35.change our laws. Katie, you are a 20-year-old student in Dublin and

:19:36. > :19:42.you think that abortion should remain illegal. Why? When we talk

:19:43. > :19:47.about the eighth Amendment and what campaign groups are pushing for,

:19:48. > :19:54.they are pushing for wide-ranging abortion, abortion in any case and

:19:55. > :20:03.at any time against station -- any time during gestation. We know that

:20:04. > :20:09.is what people in Ireland don't want. We see babies being aborted

:20:10. > :20:12.because of a diagnosis of Down's syndrome or array cleft palate. That

:20:13. > :20:16.is not what we are looking for. It is building up a culture where lives

:20:17. > :20:23.like my own brother's don't matter. I had the privilege of meeting my

:20:24. > :20:27.brother, who was 13 weeks developed. I was already pro-life, but I was

:20:28. > :20:33.shocked at how fully formed he was at 13 weeks. He had five fingers

:20:34. > :20:37.with fingernails. The most standout feature was a fully formed ER,

:20:38. > :20:42.really tiny. And it would be a shame for the Irish people to lose the

:20:43. > :20:48.eighth Amendment and to lose what has protected the lives of

:20:49. > :20:52.thousands. In our report, it has been shown to have protected over

:20:53. > :20:56.100,000 lives in Ireland, and it would be a shame to see that lost,

:20:57. > :21:03.and it is not what the Irish people want. We need to talk about what

:21:04. > :21:06.repealing the amendment would do, what it would apply to, whether it

:21:07. > :21:12.was restricted abortion or wider abortion. We have seen that wider

:21:13. > :21:17.abortion is not what the Irish people want. You are putting a lot

:21:18. > :21:21.in there, so I want to put some of it back to Janet. When you hear

:21:22. > :21:29.Katie describe having seen a brother, a feat is a 13 weeks, fully

:21:30. > :21:43.developed, how do you react? -- a foetus. Most abortions take place in

:21:44. > :21:47.the first nine weeks with pills. Those medicines should be available

:21:48. > :21:50.to anyone in Ireland who wants to end a pregnancy instead of women

:21:51. > :21:59.having to take them illegally and wasting a 14 year criminal sentence.

:22:00. > :22:04.These medicines are used routinely for an incomplete miscarriage. They

:22:05. > :22:08.are the best option for people. We need to have the referendum, repeal

:22:09. > :22:12.the eighth Amendment, then we need to look at legislation and policy

:22:13. > :22:18.for the type of services people need in Ireland. Katie, would you support

:22:19. > :22:25.a referendum? Should people just be able to have their say? You have

:22:26. > :22:29.said what the polling indicates, but why not a referendum? If we had it

:22:30. > :22:35.tomorrow, it would be a huge injustice to the Irish people,

:22:36. > :22:44.because we haven't seen a there debate on this issue. We had one of

:22:45. > :22:49.the biggest demonstrations in Ireland ever in 2013, and I was

:22:50. > :22:53.hardly any media coverage for it, unfortunately. We need to have a

:22:54. > :22:59.fair debate on this issue. Importantly, we need to be talking

:23:00. > :23:04.about what we would be repealing. Removing the eighth amendment could

:23:05. > :23:08.really open the doors... In fact, what the abortion rights campaigners

:23:09. > :23:11.are pushing for... To be clear, if there were a referendum, there would

:23:12. > :23:17.be time in the run-up for there to be a full and open debate. Would you

:23:18. > :23:22.then accept a referendum? I would hope so. This is what we have been

:23:23. > :23:29.seeing so far will stop the march for choice on Saturday say that they

:23:30. > :23:35.are backed by student unions. I have seen this student unions the

:23:36. > :23:41.incredibly biased. Let's bring Janet back. The floodgates won't open.

:23:42. > :23:46.Irish law will stay the same and that the heart of that is the 1841

:23:47. > :23:52.abortion law, which is Victorian, the same law we have in Northern

:23:53. > :23:58.Ireland and the republic. When we repeal, the law stays exactly as it

:23:59. > :24:02.is. Abortion will only be legal if there is immediate risk to the life

:24:03. > :24:06.of the pregnant person. When it comes the legislation, we have seen

:24:07. > :24:11.that Government after Government has been very slow in Ireland about

:24:12. > :24:19.doing this. There was drafted legislation there. By not having

:24:20. > :24:22.proper legislation we are violating human rights. We are out of step

:24:23. > :24:30.with the rest of the world in terms of women's right. A court ruled that

:24:31. > :24:38.not allowing abortion is not compatible with the human rights of

:24:39. > :24:43.women. -- a UN committee. They have been bullying the Irish people about

:24:44. > :24:55.their abortion laws. It is this same committee... A court came to the

:24:56. > :24:59.same conclusion. I will leave the UN alone then. There have been cases

:25:00. > :25:03.where parents have been told that 100% their child will not live, and

:25:04. > :25:09.some of those children are alive today. One example is Grace, whose

:25:10. > :25:12.parents were told she would not survive, and she is now taking

:25:13. > :25:19.swimming lessons. It can be upsetting. Would you be completely

:25:20. > :25:26.against abortions in any of those scenarios - rape or incest? Those

:25:27. > :25:30.are two of the most healers and abhorrent crimes towards women, and

:25:31. > :25:37.when it comes to the eighth Amendment and the abortion issue, we

:25:38. > :25:43.are not looking... That is not what the abortion rights campaigners are

:25:44. > :25:47.looking to, they want wide-ranging abortion. It is a distraction from

:25:48. > :25:51.what is really at stake and what is really being pushed forward, and the

:25:52. > :26:01.Irish people deserve to know that. We deserve to know the facts about

:26:02. > :26:06.abortion. We can see from scans... We are almost out of time. Janet, on

:26:07. > :26:14.that point, how do you respond to what Katie is saying about them not

:26:15. > :26:18.having been a proper debate? Irish broadcast laws are strict about how

:26:19. > :26:22.this issue has to be represented and how there have to be ballots.

:26:23. > :26:29.Whether the debate is fair or not, it is technically very balanced. --

:26:30. > :26:33.we have to have balance. We know it will take a long time to get there.

:26:34. > :26:39.Most abortions happen in less than the first ten weeks. We're looking

:26:40. > :26:44.forward to asking people to join us tomorrow. The march starts at 1:30pm

:26:45. > :26:48.in the garden of remembrance at Parnell Square. Some breaking news

:26:49. > :26:56.to bring you. We are hearing that the two people who were being tried

:26:57. > :27:03.in India for the rape and murder of Scarlett Keeling, the 15-year-old,

:27:04. > :27:11.in 2008, have been cleared. A judge has cleared the two defendants of

:27:12. > :27:15.the rape and murder of Scarlett Keeling in 2008. You may have seen

:27:16. > :27:20.my interview with her mother, Fiona, just prior to that verdict being

:27:21. > :27:27.delivered. She has been out there for the court hearing. She had to

:27:28. > :27:31.push for her daughter's killing two initially be investigated as a

:27:32. > :27:35.murder. Police said it was an accidental death initially, but

:27:36. > :27:43.sheep washed for further investigations, and that is what has

:27:44. > :27:47.led to this court case. She was speaking -- but she pushed for

:27:48. > :28:04.further investigations. We will try to speak again to Fiona

:28:05. > :28:15.if we can, in the wake of that verdict. Those two men, found not

:28:16. > :28:21.guilty. Let's catch up with all the day's news.

:28:22. > :28:24.The internet giant Yahoo is under pressure to explain how it failed

:28:25. > :28:26.to notice for two years what is thought to have been

:28:27. > :28:30.The company has urged its customers to consider

:28:31. > :28:31.changing their passwords after hackers stole information

:28:32. > :28:35.Yahoo said the breach included names and emails, but no

:28:36. > :28:39.If you have any questions or concerns about cyber security

:28:40. > :28:42.you can put your questions to internet expert Grant Paling.

:28:43. > :28:44.He'll be here to answer them for you here at 11:30

:28:45. > :28:49.You can get in touch via Twitter using the hashtag BBC Ask This -

:28:50. > :28:56.The Syrian city of Aleppo has come under a fresh wave

:28:57. > :29:02.Rescue workers say they have seen Russian warplanes over the city.

:29:03. > :29:05.There were heavy attacks overnight as the Syrian government announced

:29:06. > :29:07.a new offensive to take the rebel-held east of the city.

:29:08. > :29:10.The latest fighting comes as the United States and Russia -

:29:11. > :29:15.at talks in New York - failed to revive a ceasefire.

:29:16. > :29:18.Prosecutors in the US State of Oklahoma have charged a white

:29:19. > :29:23.policewoman who shot an unarmed black man with manslaughter.

:29:24. > :29:26.Video footage has emerged showing the Terence Crutcher

:29:27. > :29:36.walking away from officers in Tulsa with his hands in the air.

:29:37. > :29:38.Meanwhile, protesters have defied a curfew put

:29:39. > :29:40.in place in Charlotte, North Carolina, where people

:29:41. > :29:42.have been gathering for the past three nights.

:29:43. > :29:44.The demonstrations there follow the killing of a black man

:29:45. > :29:46.by police on Tuesday, but officers decided

:29:47. > :29:48.against enforcing the curfew, as protests were largely peaceful.

:29:49. > :29:51.There have been calls for footage of the shooting to be released,

:29:52. > :29:56.The Prime Minsiter says that every effort must be made to stop

:29:57. > :29:58.the legal system being abused over allegations of serious

:29:59. > :30:03.Theresa May told Defence chiefs she is determined to stop

:30:04. > :30:05."vexatious" claims being brought against the armed forces.

:30:06. > :30:07.Two separate inquiries are investigating around 2,000

:30:08. > :30:17.allegations against troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

:30:18. > :30:26.That is a summary of the latest news. Join me for BBC newsroom live

:30:27. > :30:30.at 11am. We can go back to the breaking news, two men accused of

:30:31. > :30:35.killing a British teenager Scarlett Keeling on a beach in India have

:30:36. > :30:39.been cleared of her murder. We can bring in our correspondent. The

:30:40. > :30:44.verdict is just through. Tell us more about how long the process has

:30:45. > :30:51.taken for it to get to court. It has been going on eight years. It will

:30:52. > :30:58.be devastating news for Scarlett Keeling's mother. I met her in

:30:59. > :31:02.October 2008, once after her daughter's death and she said then

:31:03. > :31:10.she vowed she would try to get justice for her daughter. It has

:31:11. > :31:13.been a lengthy process and Fiona McKeown has been out to India many

:31:14. > :31:25.times. This is not the verdict she wanted. Scarlett Keeling's body was

:31:26. > :31:30.found in 2008 on the beach in Goa. The student from Devon has been at a

:31:31. > :31:33.Valentine's Day beach party. Her mother left her there while the

:31:34. > :31:39.family continued travelling around India. She thought she was safe with

:31:40. > :31:44.the people they had met and she was staying with. A postmortem showed

:31:45. > :31:50.there was ecstasy, cocaine and LSD in her daughter's body and at the

:31:51. > :31:54.time Fiona McKeown had to push to get the postmortem because the

:31:55. > :32:01.authorities initially said it was an accidental death. That Scarlett

:32:02. > :32:06.Keeling had drowned. Following a lengthy investigation, two local men

:32:07. > :32:11.were charged with causing her death. In the past few minutes they have

:32:12. > :32:17.been found not guilty of that. It is alleged they plied her with drugs,

:32:18. > :32:22.raped her and left her unconscious and then she subsequently drowned,

:32:23. > :32:28.but both men have always denied charges of culpable homicide and

:32:29. > :32:34.grievous sexual assault. Scarlett Keeling was found with 50 separate

:32:35. > :32:39.injuries in the attack that was heard in the children's court. We

:32:40. > :32:45.understand because the men have not been found guilty, India's top

:32:46. > :32:50.investigating agency, the Central bureau of investigation, is expected

:32:51. > :32:57.to challenge the ruling. It will mean today's verdict is not the end

:32:58. > :33:01.of this very long case. We are hoping to speak to Fiona again, we

:33:02. > :33:06.spoke to her before that verdict. Now we can catch up with the sport.

:33:07. > :33:14.Middlesex resume against Yorkshire in the dramatic finale to the County

:33:15. > :33:19.Championship. 81-2 in the second innings and a win for either team

:33:20. > :33:23.will secure the title. Aberdeen complete the line-up for the

:33:24. > :33:28.Scottish League Cup semifinals after beating St Johnstone and will now

:33:29. > :33:32.play Morton. Rangers play Celtic in the other match. A rusty Ronnie

:33:33. > :33:37.O'Sullivan has been knocked out of the Shanghai Masters, losing to

:33:38. > :33:42.Michael Holt. His first tournament since the World Championships in

:33:43. > :33:47.April. Holiday-makers are asked to fund British Olympians when they

:33:48. > :33:51.booked trips abroad. The governing body British ski and snowboard will

:33:52. > :33:54.set up a fund for donations when people book their skiing holiday.

:33:55. > :34:02.Thanks. After two nights of violence,

:34:03. > :34:04.police in Charlotte North Carolina chose not to strictly enforce

:34:05. > :34:07.a curfew aimed at ending the protests which have followed

:34:08. > :34:09.the killing of a black suspect A largely peaceful protest of

:34:10. > :34:13.several hundred people took place. Police maintain that they believed

:34:14. > :34:18.43-year-old Keith Scott was carrying a gun when he was shot dead,

:34:19. > :34:21.but his family say he His family's lawyer said a video

:34:22. > :34:26.of the incident showed that Mr Scott was making no aggressive moves

:34:27. > :34:29.towards police in the moments before Meanwhile, in Oklahoma,

:34:30. > :34:33.a woman police officer has been charged with manslaughter

:34:34. > :34:40.after shooting dead The incidents have reignited

:34:41. > :34:57.the debate over the police Charlotte's police chief said he

:34:58. > :35:00.would not release the video of the killing to the public.

:35:01. > :35:03.What I can tell you that I saw, and I was very clear

:35:04. > :35:06.when I talked about this before, is the video does not

:35:07. > :35:10.give me absolute definitive visual evidence that...

:35:11. > :35:16.That would confirm that a person is pointing a gun.

:35:17. > :35:20.I did not see that in the videos that I've reviewed.

:35:21. > :35:23.So what I can tell you, though, is when taken

:35:24. > :35:28.in the totality of all the other evidence, it supports what we've

:35:29. > :35:31.heard in the version of the truth that we gave about the circumstances

:35:32. > :35:41.that happened that led to the death of Mr Scott.

:35:42. > :35:50.We can talk to a lawyer offering to take on cases of people who have

:35:51. > :35:56.been arrested while demonstrating. It seems the protests have become

:35:57. > :36:05.more peaceful. Were you involved? I was involved in the protest that had

:36:06. > :36:13.heavy police involvement and did get violent and resulted in the death of

:36:14. > :36:20.a protest. The protests tonight were completely different. The energy was

:36:21. > :36:26.different. Why do you think that is? I think people were impulsive and

:36:27. > :36:30.angry last night and there was a lack of involvement from the people

:36:31. > :36:37.who lead us in the community, from clergy, from leaders in the

:36:38. > :36:43.community. It was people who were very disappointed. The police chief

:36:44. > :36:47.said he is determined to get to the bottom of this and has let the

:36:48. > :36:53.family see a video of what happened but will not release it to the

:36:54. > :37:00.public. Are you confident it is being handled correctly? No. I

:37:01. > :37:07.personally am not as a private citizen and as an attorney, I think

:37:08. > :37:16.a large portion of unrest here stems from a lack of transparency. The

:37:17. > :37:23.decision not to release does not quell vat. Does not quell vat of

:37:24. > :37:29.unrest in certain portions of the population. Is it actually clear

:37:30. > :37:34.whether Keith Scott was carrying a gun or whether it was a book? It is

:37:35. > :37:42.not clear at this point. His family has stipulated he did not habitually

:37:43. > :37:47.carry a firearm and what is more important is that North Carolina is

:37:48. > :37:54.an open carry state, which means it is legal, if you legally have a

:37:55. > :37:59.firearm that is licensed to you it is legal for you to have that gun

:38:00. > :38:11.visible. What is not the goal is to point or brandished a gun at anyone,

:38:12. > :38:22.specifically a police dash dash-macro what is not legal is to

:38:23. > :38:28.point or brandish that gun. Why has it not been clarified? The family

:38:29. > :38:36.has stipulated... I just read this article from a news network in the

:38:37. > :38:41.states. The gun that would have all could have been used, if there was

:38:42. > :38:49.any, would have been small and from the angle of the film, as the police

:38:50. > :38:54.chief said, you are not capable of distinguishing, at this point. I am

:38:55. > :38:59.not sure what enhanced analysis could be done to that video at a

:39:00. > :39:12.later time. How does trust get restored now? By transparency.

:39:13. > :39:18.Policing in the United States is broken. There are good people who

:39:19. > :39:23.are police officers but it is difficult to be a good police

:39:24. > :39:34.officer when policing is corrupt. People of colour are

:39:35. > :39:39.disproportionately targeted by police and the justice system as a

:39:40. > :39:43.whole. I think we need clear directives from not only local

:39:44. > :39:50.agents and involvement with community leaders working in

:39:51. > :39:54.conjunction with police, but also at federal level there needs to be

:39:55. > :40:01.oversight and I think that has been and will continue to be a large

:40:02. > :40:09.portion of the upcoming election and how the electorate decides to cast

:40:10. > :40:15.their vote. Thanks for joining us. Some breaking news. We hear that

:40:16. > :40:20.Christopher Halliwell has been sentenced to a whole life order at

:40:21. > :40:25.Bristol Crown Court for the murder of Becky Godden. He is 52 and

:40:26. > :40:31.already serving a life sentence for the murder of Sean O'Callaghan, who

:40:32. > :40:35.he abducted in his taxi as she headed home from a night out in

:40:36. > :40:41.Swindon in 2011. He was already serving a life sentence for that and

:40:42. > :40:47.as he was sentenced today for a second murder he was facing a whole

:40:48. > :40:55.life order and that is what we are hearing he got. He confessed to

:40:56. > :41:02.killing Sean O'Callaghan. He took -- Sian O'Callaghan. He took police to

:41:03. > :41:06.her body and that was when he led them to Becky Godden, who had been

:41:07. > :41:12.missing. He later denied murdering Becky Godden, but he was convicted

:41:13. > :41:17.after a two-week trial at Bristol Crown Court at which he represented

:41:18. > :41:22.himself. We can bring in our correspondent who has been following

:41:23. > :41:29.the case. He has been given a whole life order, what does that mean? We

:41:30. > :41:33.expected this to happen because Christopher Halliwell since 2012 has

:41:34. > :41:42.been serving a life sentence in jail. Pleading guilty to murder in

:41:43. > :41:48.2012, given 25 years minimum term. He would have been in jail until he

:41:49. > :41:52.was about 70 but now he has been convicted to a second murder, that

:41:53. > :41:58.of Becky Godden, and the judge said there is no need him to impose a

:41:59. > :42:04.minimum term, which means basically he has a whole life sentence. It

:42:05. > :42:08.started in 2011 when Christopher Halliwell was arrested over the

:42:09. > :42:14.disappearance of Sian O'Callaghan a 22-year-old who went missing in

:42:15. > :42:18.Swindon. He led police a field in Oxfordshire, where you see the large

:42:19. > :42:22.chalk horse carved into the hillside. He showed them where he

:42:23. > :42:26.had dumped her body but then something strange happened because

:42:27. > :42:31.at that point he said to police, there is another one, I have killed

:42:32. > :42:37.somebody else. He said it was a prostitute he had abducted in

:42:38. > :42:43.Swindon in 2003 and on that same day he led police to another field 20

:42:44. > :42:50.miles away Gloucs. He showed them where to dig. He paced out into the

:42:51. > :42:55.field and said if you dig there you will find another body and they did.

:42:56. > :43:00.They identified the bones they found to be those of Becky Godden.

:43:01. > :43:06.Christopher Halliwell was tried for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan and

:43:07. > :43:09.then tried for the second murder of Becky Godden, found guilty and now

:43:10. > :43:14.we know he will spend the rest of his life in prison. Those two

:43:15. > :43:17.murders were eight years apart and police are looking potentially at

:43:18. > :43:24.whether he did anything else between those two. That is right. They have

:43:25. > :43:30.openly speculated they do not know what he might have been doing in the

:43:31. > :43:36.eight years between. They do not know if the murder of Becky Godden,

:43:37. > :43:40.last seen in 2003, whether that was his first. They have openly

:43:41. > :43:45.speculated that they thought he may have been active in those eight

:43:46. > :43:49.years and afterwards. The man in charge of the murder inquiries said

:43:50. > :43:54.although he had no direct evidence to link Christopher Halliwell to any

:43:55. > :43:58.other murders, they were looking at potential missing people to see if

:43:59. > :44:06.there were similarities because there were similarities between

:44:07. > :44:10.Becky's and Sian's murder, they were both stripped, strangled and buried,

:44:11. > :44:13.Sian was not buried, but hidden in undergrowth and it was thought he

:44:14. > :44:20.would go back to bury her but was caught before he could. He was a

:44:21. > :44:25.taxi driver, often driving people to Heathrow. Police enquiries are not

:44:26. > :44:29.confined to Swindon, they are looking all over the country. It is

:44:30. > :44:33.thought, perhaps, he could be responsible for more killings.

:44:34. > :44:35.The Syrian military has announced a new offensive

:44:36. > :44:37.in rebel-held eastern Aleppo, where a quarter of a million people

:44:38. > :44:41.It comes after jets pounded rebel positions in the city on Wednesday

:44:42. > :44:43.night as a week-old truce collapsed, reportedly killing

:44:44. > :44:46.It is unclear whether the new offensive will

:44:47. > :44:52.Meanwhile, talks between the US and Russia on reviving the collapsed

:44:53. > :44:56.ceasefire have broken up without progress in New York.

:44:57. > :44:58.Caroline Anning is the Humanitarian Emergencies Media Manager

:44:59. > :45:02.She joins us by webcam from Antakya in Southern Turkey,

:45:03. > :45:24.Now that the offensive is well and truly on-again, what your concerns?

:45:25. > :45:28.We're hearing this morning from Aleppo is devastating. Our partners

:45:29. > :45:33.are trapped. They can't even run ambulances. They were hoping to

:45:34. > :45:37.visit her severely injured colleague, hurt in an air strike

:45:38. > :45:42.yesterday, so we know there is violence in Aleppo currently. There

:45:43. > :46:01.is no late getting into the city and other parts of the country. -- no

:46:02. > :46:09.aid. Until you stop the violence... There were over 60 air strikes

:46:10. > :46:12.between last night and this morning. Equipment and ambulances have been

:46:13. > :46:18.destroyed, so it is almost impossible for people to help or to

:46:19. > :46:23.bring a. We need a ceasefire to hold and then to be able to deliver aid.

:46:24. > :46:26.They did not manage that in New York this week. The world leaders were

:46:27. > :46:32.there and they could not find agreement. It is not good enough to

:46:33. > :46:36.put your hands up and say, we could not help so all these people we be

:46:37. > :46:42.trapped and bombed their game. They have to keep working to find a way

:46:43. > :46:45.to get aid into those areas. We have seen lots of descriptions about what

:46:46. > :46:49.life is like in Aleppo, which has been under siege for such a

:46:50. > :46:55.prolonged period, but tell us the sorts of stories you hear. We're

:46:56. > :47:01.hearing that children are malnourished and sick. Hospitals are

:47:02. > :47:06.overwhelmed. When they take people in, there is blood on the floor, no

:47:07. > :47:09.beds for anybody. I don't want to be too stark, but it is such an

:47:10. > :47:22.unimaginably awful situation for people. Never is very little food

:47:23. > :47:26.getting in. Yesterday, one of our people was injured in an air strike.

:47:27. > :47:33.He's 25, a medic. His house was bombed as he was preparing for the

:47:34. > :47:39.arrival of his first baby. He had just got the cot, baby clothes and

:47:40. > :47:42.blankets, which are not able to get, and it was all destroyed and he had

:47:43. > :47:47.to be taken to hospital. These tragedies are repeated day in, day

:47:48. > :47:51.out, not just in Aleppo but all over Syria. There has to be more we can

:47:52. > :48:02.do to help. Thank you for joining us. It is 13 minutes to 11th.

:48:03. > :48:03.More trouble for Hollywood's star couple.

:48:04. > :48:05.Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie announced on Monday

:48:06. > :48:09.Now, the FBI has said it is considering whether to launch

:48:10. > :48:11.an investigation into an alleged incident on an aircraft carrying

:48:12. > :48:17.According to gossip website TMZ, the allegations stem from a flight

:48:18. > :48:24.last week when Mr Pitt is alleged to have got drunk.

:48:25. > :48:29.We can speak to Caroline Frost, entertainment editor at the

:48:30. > :48:35.Huffington Post. Every day brings a new level of drama in this break-up,

:48:36. > :48:42.doesn't it? What is the latest with the FBI? I have to say, I have been

:48:43. > :48:51.in Beverly Hills all week, and my phone is alive when I've flown into

:48:52. > :48:57.London today. Either we are talking about Bake Off or Brangelina. There

:48:58. > :49:01.was a hint that an incident happened last week that was because of the

:49:02. > :49:06.breakdown of their marriage, and now what has become apparent is that it

:49:07. > :49:15.culminated in a huge row on a private plane, flying to their

:49:16. > :49:23.private home in France. The rumour is that Brad Pitt had a big row with

:49:24. > :49:31.one of his children and was apparently wasted, the quote said.

:49:32. > :49:36.The authorities are being forced, as they have two, to investigate. It

:49:37. > :49:43.sounds dramatic. Because it happened in the air, that is where the FBI

:49:44. > :49:48.has jurisdiction. It sounds like it all sort of suddenly ended in this

:49:49. > :49:55.cataclysmic moment of drama, and prior to that, the perception had

:49:56. > :50:00.been of this couple that were always out together, seen at red-carpet

:50:01. > :50:06.events looking happy. Presumably, it doesn't happen like that. Were the

:50:07. > :50:09.rumours for some time? Yes. If you think about how they started out,

:50:10. > :50:16.they are almost a mirror image of each other. They were the glossiest

:50:17. > :50:21.of the glossy. In the last two years, especially since Angelina

:50:22. > :50:24.Jolie went through her double mastectomy, she has cut a much more

:50:25. > :50:28.serious figure. We are far more likely to see her at the UN rat

:50:29. > :50:32.refugee camps fulfilling her role for the UN. Brad Pitt has gone from

:50:33. > :50:41.strength to strength in the acting world. His production company was

:50:42. > :50:47.behind 12 Years A Slave. Who knows what goes on inside a marriage, but

:50:48. > :50:54.they are on different paths. Are you surprised that it is playing out in

:50:55. > :51:00.public? They could keep it quiet if they wanted, presumably. None of

:51:01. > :51:06.them has said anything about the other in anything other than glowing

:51:07. > :51:09.terms. Brad Pitt said a few years ago that choosing Angelina Jolie as

:51:10. > :51:16.the mother of his children was the wisest thing he ever did. Angelina

:51:17. > :51:22.Jolie has been utterly loyal, when perhaps other wives would have

:51:23. > :51:26.differed. She said she loved Brad in all his forms, shapes and sizes. I

:51:27. > :51:31.think this is why the media jumped on it, because it is such a

:51:32. > :51:37.cataclysm of differing opinion. Hollywood being what it is, it will

:51:38. > :51:40.split into two very polarised camps. It is obviously an environment where

:51:41. > :51:44.they are both in the same business, and there are lots of events which

:51:45. > :51:52.might require them both to be at the same Place, particularly the Oscars.

:51:53. > :51:58.They did not appear on the same red-carpet for years with Brad

:51:59. > :52:02.Pitt's ex-wife Jennifer Aniston until four five years ago, when

:52:03. > :52:09.Jennifer Aniston had John Maher on her arm. It was a well-publicised

:52:10. > :52:14.meeting of all of and Jennifer Aniston acquitted herself with

:52:15. > :52:20.impeccable grace, beaming at them in the front row of the auditorium.

:52:21. > :52:27.They are likely to cross. They have six children, which is a lot of

:52:28. > :52:28.interwoven life still to come. Good to talk to you, Carolyn. Thank you

:52:29. > :52:30.very much. Research that involved a British man

:52:31. > :52:33.living in the Alps as a goat for three days has won one of this

:52:34. > :52:36.year's Ig Nobel prizes. The spoof awards, which have become

:52:37. > :52:39.almost as famous as the real Nobels, have just been handed out

:52:40. > :52:44.at their annual ceremony at the prestigious American Harvard

:52:45. > :52:45.University. Other studies honoured

:52:46. > :52:48.during the event examined Thomas Thwaites

:52:49. > :52:58.attended the ceremony The Ig Nobel prize for biology is

:52:59. > :53:05.awarded jointly to Charles Foster and Thomas Thwaite, for creating

:53:06. > :53:09.prosthetic extensions of his limbs that allowed him to move in the

:53:10. > :53:18.manner of and spent time roaming hills in the company of goats. Well,

:53:19. > :53:23.other prizes this year include the psychology prize, which went to the

:53:24. > :53:27.team... Other prizes this year include

:53:28. > :53:29.the psychology prize, which went to the team that asked a thousand

:53:30. > :53:32.liars how often they lied, and the chemistry prize was awarded

:53:33. > :53:35.to Volkswagen for their efforts There's often serious intent behind

:53:36. > :53:39.some of the research. Dr Helen Ashdown is

:53:40. > :53:41.from Oxford University. She was awarded an Ig Nobel prize

:53:42. > :53:44.last year for her study that looked at whether pain while going over

:53:45. > :53:51.speed bumps can be used to help I brought along my prize so that you

:53:52. > :53:56.can have a look. Hold it up and explained what it is. This is one of

:53:57. > :54:03.the Ig Nobel prizes. Do you keep it on the mantelpiece? Yes, proudly. We

:54:04. > :54:09.realised that lots of patients coming to hospital with suspected

:54:10. > :54:13.appendicitis who then went on to have a diagnosis said that the

:54:14. > :54:16.journey to hospital had been really painful and that they had pain going

:54:17. > :54:21.over speed bumps, and we wanted to test that and see if it was true,

:54:22. > :54:26.backing it up with real research evidence. We set up a study to find

:54:27. > :54:33.out. Wasn't it obvious what the answer would be? So, we found that

:54:34. > :54:39.of the patients we looked at who had suspected appendicitis, 97% of those

:54:40. > :54:42.who went on to have appendicitis had had pain going over speed bump, and

:54:43. > :54:46.that is important because it means that it is an excellent ruling out

:54:47. > :54:51.test, which means that if you don't have pain, it is unlikely that you

:54:52. > :54:55.have appendicitis. People think that appendicitis would be easy to

:54:56. > :55:03.diagnose, but it is not. Anything that can help doctors to narrow down

:55:04. > :55:09.the diagnosis is really helpful. So it is really interesting, then. It

:55:10. > :55:13.has been a bit ridiculous because of the fact that you got the Ig Nobel,

:55:14. > :55:20.but actually, it has a good scientific basis. Totally. And the

:55:21. > :55:23.Ig Nobel prizes are supposed to be research that first makes you laugh

:55:24. > :55:28.but then makes you think. There is pretty much always a serious side to

:55:29. > :55:32.the research. The findings are being used across the world, which is nice

:55:33. > :55:37.to see. And that is what we wanted to do, to do research that would

:55:38. > :55:43.make a difference to people and to patients but that would actually be

:55:44. > :55:49.also quite fun. What do you make of the goat guy, then? Can you see

:55:50. > :55:52.something serious there? I haven't had a chance to read what he has

:55:53. > :55:57.done in detail. It looked interesting, what he was doing

:55:58. > :56:02.pretending to be different animals. A great way to spend time.

:56:03. > :56:10.Obviously, you showed us your trophy, and you are proud of it, but

:56:11. > :56:13.what does it do in terms of getting people talking about the sort of

:56:14. > :56:18.things you are doing? So, the response has been overwhelmingly

:56:19. > :56:21.positive to the Ig Nobel. It has been fantastic for getting our

:56:22. > :56:25.research out around the world. The great thing about the speed bump

:56:26. > :56:30.test is that it can be used in all sort of settings and it doesn't cost

:56:31. > :56:36.money, so it is a fantastic diagnostic test in that sense. It

:56:37. > :56:38.has been brilliant. People love to criticise something that sounds like

:56:39. > :56:44.it is stating the obvious. Did it cost money to do that research? We

:56:45. > :56:49.have had a few people criticising it, saying why is public money being

:56:50. > :56:52.spent on this? It is not silly, because it makes a difference to

:56:53. > :56:57.patients and helps the diagnose what can be a serious condition. All the

:56:58. > :57:02.researchers did it in their own time, so we did not cost money. It

:57:03. > :57:11.was great fun. So, is it something now that is rolled out when the

:57:12. > :57:15.appendicitis diagnosis is being carried out? It depends on there

:57:16. > :57:21.being speed bumps on the journey. Across Britain, there are speed

:57:22. > :57:24.bumps everywhere up, and the majority of patients have travelled

:57:25. > :57:30.over some sort of bump in the road which can be used. It is used as a

:57:31. > :57:34.test quite widely across hospitals. The beauty of it is that the patient

:57:35. > :57:40.doesn't need to be there in front of you. I am a GP, and we can use it on

:57:41. > :57:44.the phone in talking to patients, asking them if they have been on a

:57:45. > :57:50.journey and if they had pain. If they say it has been fine, and Oxon

:57:51. > :57:53.has loads of speed bumps, we can say that it is pretty unlikely that it

:57:54. > :57:58.is appendicitis, which is reassuring for the doctor Randy patient.

:57:59. > :58:09.Interesting to talk to you, Helen Ashdown. Thank you very much. -- for

:58:10. > :58:16.the doctor and the patient. An e-mail from Robert: The Bake Off is

:58:17. > :58:19.no more. It is unlikely that Channel 4 will be able to recreate the

:58:20. > :58:22.special alchemy that made the programme so successful, and why

:58:23. > :58:24.would the BBC want to start again? Thank you for your comments.

:58:25. > :58:31.Don't forget the programme with the full results of the Labour

:58:32. > :58:33.leadership election 50 years ago,

:58:34. > :58:37.they became superstars in astronomy,