03/10/2016

:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:11. > :00:15.This morning - a rare interview with a former spy who worked

:00:16. > :00:17.for MI5 for 8 years - stopping terrorist attacks

:00:18. > :00:29.I can't tell you my real name or show you my face, but you can call

:00:30. > :00:31.me Tom Marcus. I'm here to tell you about my life in MI5.

:00:32. > :00:33.That full interview in the next few minutes.

:00:34. > :00:36.Also on the programme - it's an agonising decision for any

:00:37. > :00:38.prospective parent - whether or not to go

:00:39. > :00:40.ahead with a pregnancy if you know your child will have

:00:41. > :00:44.But now there are concerns that a new highly accurate test

:00:45. > :00:48.could lead to a rise in abortions of babies with Down's.

:00:49. > :01:04.We'll get reaction from parents of children with the condition.

:01:05. > :01:07.And - tears at the Baftas, as Monty Python star Terry Jones

:01:08. > :01:12.makes his first public appearance since announcing he has dementia.

:01:13. > :01:29.APPLAUSE Batten down... We'd just like to say

:01:30. > :01:36.thank you to everyone, I know it's a great honour to dad to win this

:01:37. > :01:46.award. He struggles to speak... We are so proud of him.

:01:47. > :01:50.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.

:01:51. > :01:52.As always this morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news

:01:53. > :01:58.and developing stories, and later in the programme we'll

:01:59. > :02:05.bring you some of a press conference from caretaker England manager

:02:06. > :02:09.who's assaulted several female celebrities including kim kardashian

:02:10. > :02:11.west and gigi hadid in the name of what he calls "pranks" -

:02:12. > :02:13.that exclusive interview to come before 11.

:02:14. > :02:16.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:02:17. > :02:20.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:02:21. > :02:25.Kim Kardashian West has been held up and robbed at gunpoint in a luxury

:02:26. > :02:27.apartment in Paris, by men dressed as police officers.

:02:28. > :02:30.She wasn't physically harmed, but she's said to be "badly shaken".

:02:31. > :02:33.Her husband - Kanye West - cut short a show in New York

:02:34. > :02:36.when he heard the news, telling his fans he was leaving

:02:37. > :02:39.Radio 1 Newsbeat's Sinead Garvan is here with me now.

:02:40. > :02:46.What do we know about what happened? There have been conflicting reports

:02:47. > :02:51.this morning since five or six when the report broke. We know it

:02:52. > :02:54.happened about 2.30, she was in an apartment on her own. Originally

:02:55. > :03:00.people were saying she was in a hotel. On the third or fourth floor,

:03:01. > :03:04.we believe. It was said two men masked, dressed as police officers.

:03:05. > :03:08.Later on people were saying it was five men. We believe it was two. And

:03:09. > :03:13.that million pounds worth of jewellery has been stolen from her

:03:14. > :03:16.as well. In the last half an hour or 45 minutes, some American media

:03:17. > :03:20.reported she was tied up and locked into the bathroom while the robbery

:03:21. > :03:26.was going on. And as you mentioned, can the West, her husband, cut short

:03:27. > :03:32.his gig in New York, as soon as he heard what had happened. Social

:03:33. > :03:36.media reaction, as well... I'm sorry, I have an emergency, I have

:03:37. > :03:50.to stop the show. So yes. Explain what was going on

:03:51. > :03:54.there. He was on stage in New York. You don't see this bit, but someone

:03:55. > :03:58.comes onto the side of the stage and says, this is what's just happened.

:03:59. > :04:02.He's in the middle of a song, the crowd singing and he stopped on

:04:03. > :04:06.this, I can't, I have a family emergency and runs offstage. I

:04:07. > :04:11.imagine he is on his way to Paris now. Social media reaction... It's

:04:12. > :04:14.not been particularly nice from some people, in regards to what has

:04:15. > :04:20.happened to Kim Kardashian. It's meant the likes of James Gordon have

:04:21. > :04:23.come out and said, look, she's a mother, she is a wife, she's a human

:04:24. > :04:32.being, this is something not to be laughing out. -- James Corden. OK.

:04:33. > :04:37.It presumably the police have been called an investigation is underway?

:04:38. > :04:44.Yes. It seems like information is drip feeding. There has been no word

:04:45. > :04:47.from Kim herself or any other family members and they are quite prolific

:04:48. > :04:51.on social media. I imagine at some point she tell her side of the

:04:52. > :04:52.story. But a very traumatic thing that's happened. Thank you very

:04:53. > :04:54.much. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC

:04:55. > :04:56.Newsroom with a summary The Chancellor of the Exchequer,

:04:57. > :05:00.Philip Hammond, will tell the Conservative Party conference

:05:01. > :05:03.today that he will adopt a different approach to his predecessor,

:05:04. > :05:06.George Osborne, as he seeks to deal with the Government's finances

:05:07. > :05:08.in the wake of the vote In a speech to delegates

:05:09. > :05:12.in Birmingham, he'll confirm he's abandoning the target of eliminating

:05:13. > :05:16.the budget deficit by 2020. But Mr Hammond will say -

:05:17. > :05:18.that doesn't mean an end Here's our political

:05:19. > :05:25.correspondent Eleanor Garnier. Huge cheers for Theresa May

:05:26. > :05:30.at her first conference as leader, and it was the EU and Brexit that

:05:31. > :05:35.dominated day one of the Conservative conference,

:05:36. > :05:37.but the Chancellor and the economy Philip Hammond will say

:05:38. > :05:42.George Osborne's policies were right for their time, but when times

:05:43. > :05:49.change - we must change with them. He will emphasise getting

:05:50. > :05:51.the deficit down is a priority, but that he'll sort out the public

:05:52. > :05:54.finances in a pragmatic way. And he'll confirm he'll

:05:55. > :05:56.abandon his predecessor's target to get the UK's finances

:05:57. > :06:02.into surplus by 2020. The Chancellor is making it clear

:06:03. > :06:05.he is taking a different It's another signal that

:06:06. > :06:09.Theresa May's administration is a definite departure

:06:10. > :06:10.from the government Today, ministers will announce plans

:06:11. > :06:19.to help build 25,000 extra homes In the longer term, the Government

:06:20. > :06:25.hopes to see more than 200,000 built, and will borrow ?2 billion

:06:26. > :06:30.to support the plans. It's a demonstration

:06:31. > :06:34.the new Chancellor's approach will allow for investment

:06:35. > :06:37.to boost the economy. Eleanor Garnier, BBC

:06:38. > :06:41.News, Birmingham. Colombia's president says he'll

:06:42. > :06:45.continue to work for peace, after voters narrowly rejected

:06:46. > :06:47.a hard-won agreement with FARC rebels to end five

:06:48. > :06:49.decades of conflict. The agreement - signed last week

:06:50. > :06:52.in a high profile ceremony - was rejected in a referendum

:06:53. > :06:56.by a razor-thin margin. More than 13 million

:06:57. > :07:01.people cast their ballots, with the 'no' camp winning

:07:02. > :07:04.by fewer than 60,000 votes. The strongest Atlantic hurricane

:07:05. > :07:06.in a decade is expected to batter several Caribbean

:07:07. > :07:09.islands later today. Haiti is likely to be the worst hit,

:07:10. > :07:13.but Jamaica is also braced for flash floods and winds of up to 150

:07:14. > :07:26.miles per hour. Parts of Jamaica have already been

:07:27. > :07:28.lashed by rain and strong winds with floodwaters blocking roads in the

:07:29. > :07:35.capital, Kingston. Nick Davies reports. The outer layers of Matthew

:07:36. > :07:40.coming this way, even though it is 200 miles away, so people have

:07:41. > :07:44.already seen some areas starting to flood as the drains have become

:07:45. > :07:48.inundated and some of the gullies as well. The fact the storm is moving

:07:49. > :07:53.away from Jamaica now towards the north west, towards the countries of

:07:54. > :07:56.Haiti and Cuba, that is a major concern, because they really can't

:07:57. > :07:59.deal with it. Nick Davies in Kingston.

:08:00. > :08:04.A referendum in Hungary on taking in migrants has resulted

:08:05. > :08:06.in an overwhelming majority against accepting an EU plan

:08:07. > :08:12.98% of those who voted backed the Hungarian

:08:13. > :08:14.government's opposition to the quotas.

:08:15. > :08:17.But less than half the electorate cast a vote in the referendum -

:08:18. > :08:18.which officially makes the result invalid.

:08:19. > :08:20.However, the Hungarian Prime Minister called it a victory

:08:21. > :08:22.and said he'd change the country's constitution to make

:08:23. > :08:26.Millions of women in Poland are expected to join what they're

:08:27. > :08:29.calling an 'all out strike' to protest against new abortion laws.

:08:30. > :08:31.It follows demonstrations attended by thousands of people

:08:32. > :08:34.The women say they will withdraw from work, housework and sex.

:08:35. > :08:36.Under the new laws, Poland's already restrictive abortion rules

:08:37. > :08:39.would be tightened further, with jail penalties for terminating

:08:40. > :08:44.a pregnancy in cases of rape or incest.

:08:45. > :08:47.A former MI5 agent who risked his life for more than eight years,

:08:48. > :08:49.secretly tracking Islamic extremists in the UK, says he himself became

:08:50. > :08:52.a target for an attempted beheading when extremists developed a plan

:08:53. > :09:02.Tom - not his real name - also says he helped thwart a plan

:09:03. > :09:04.to blow up two coaches full of schoolchildren returning

:09:05. > :09:08.We'll be speaking live to him here on the programme

:09:09. > :09:13.A new move to protect elephants has been agreed at a major

:09:14. > :09:14.conference in South Africa on endangered species.

:09:15. > :09:17.Delegates agreed a proposal to outlaw all domestic ivory markets -

:09:18. > :09:20.a move that conservationists say would be a significant step towards

:09:21. > :09:25.However, Japan - which has a large domestic ivory trade -

:09:26. > :09:27.says the ban does not apply there, because it doesn't

:09:28. > :09:34.Police have widened their search for an RAF serviceman who's been

:09:35. > :09:37.missing for more than a week amid fears he may have been kidnapped.

:09:38. > :09:40.Corrie McKeague was last seen in Bury St Edmunds in Suffolk,

:09:41. > :09:44.CCTV images show him walking through the streets of the town

:09:45. > :09:53.The Monty Python actor and director, Terry Jones, has made his first

:09:54. > :09:55.public appearance since announcing he'd been diagnosed with dementia -

:09:56. > :09:57.accepting a Bafta Cymru award for his contribution

:09:58. > :10:02.He was presented with the award at a ceremony in Cardiff,

:10:03. > :10:08.by his Monty Python co-star, Michael Palin.

:10:09. > :10:17.He has an illness now, and he is withdrawing, in a sense, because of

:10:18. > :10:21.this phase which affects his speech. It's sad to see, but I didn't feel

:10:22. > :10:23.sad tonight, I felt really elated and proud.

:10:24. > :10:28.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30.

:10:29. > :10:35.Thank you, very much. Plenty of you questioning whether Kim Kardashian

:10:36. > :10:40.robbed at gunpoint and having millions of pounds worth of

:10:41. > :10:45.jewellery stolen and is a story. Patsy will be more interested in our

:10:46. > :10:49.interview with the former MI5 spy, giving us an insight into life as an

:10:50. > :10:51.operative. If you have any questions, do get in touch and I

:10:52. > :10:54.will put them to him. Use the hashtag Victoria LIVE

:10:55. > :10:57.and If you text, you will be charged Let's get some sport

:10:58. > :11:04.now with Karthi. The United States have won the Ryder

:11:05. > :11:09.Cup for the first time since 2008? Correct. A fascinating three days.

:11:10. > :11:13.Golf is such an individual sport, the Ryder Cup is a team event and

:11:14. > :11:18.the pairings are interesting to watch. The USA have an won this,

:11:19. > :11:22.only once this century, not since 2008. They haven't had a great run

:11:23. > :11:27.recently. They tried to learn from Europe. They set up a task force and

:11:28. > :11:31.that result seems to have worked because they won 17-11. The first

:11:32. > :11:37.points yesterday went to America. Patrick Reed beat Rory McIlroy. Some

:11:38. > :11:41.of the golf... You can see the reaction from Rory McIlroy to his

:11:42. > :11:47.shot on the ninth. Brilliant watch. It was being described in boxing

:11:48. > :11:50.terms, going blow to blow. The reaction from Patrick Reed is to

:11:51. > :11:54.silence the crowd, after Rory McIlroy had done it with his own

:11:55. > :11:58.play. That was the first point that went to America. It carried on from

:11:59. > :12:03.there. Another tight contest between Sergio Garcia and the USA's Phil

:12:04. > :12:07.Mickelson. They won Castle Point each. The final winning point for

:12:08. > :12:14.America came from Ryan Moore. He beat Lee Westwood on the 18th green.

:12:15. > :12:20.That gave USA the Ryder Cup for the first time since 2008. The fans, who

:12:21. > :12:25.you can see are celebrating here on the 18th, have been a major talking

:12:26. > :12:28.point this week. Several of the US team and the vice captains have been

:12:29. > :12:33.trying to quell some of the over the top comments. That is Davis Love the

:12:34. > :12:37.third holding up the Ryder Cup trophy. The fans taking photos. A

:12:38. > :12:41.few comments have been mentioned. Danny Willett, who had a bad

:12:42. > :12:43.weekend, lost all three of his matches. This morning this is what

:12:44. > :12:53.he said... That is his brother, made some

:12:54. > :13:02.comments at the start of the Ryder Cup.

:13:03. > :13:09.Just to mention those comments were probably made at about 1:45am in the

:13:10. > :13:13.morning at Hazeltine and against most of the comments from the

:13:14. > :13:18.European players. The European captain afterwards saying the fans

:13:19. > :13:22.were doing a good job in America. In Formula 1, Lewis Hamilton is hinting

:13:23. > :13:27.at some kind of conspiracy theory over engine failure at the Malaysian

:13:28. > :13:31.Grand Prix? I love a good conspiracy theory. Lewis Hamilton attracted a

:13:32. > :13:35.bit from what he said yesterday. His engine failed and caught fire during

:13:36. > :13:38.the Malaysian Grand Prix. That many was out of the race and afterward he

:13:39. > :13:42.said something or someone doesn't want him to win this year and

:13:43. > :13:46.complained many of the engines for the other drivers have been fine and

:13:47. > :13:50.it is only his failing. He was asked to clarify what he meant by someone

:13:51. > :13:53.and he set a higher power. It feels as if a man above or a higher power

:13:54. > :14:12.is intervening a bit. Maybe divine but the issues are Hamilton

:14:13. > :14:14.is he is 23 real points behind Nico Rosberg, the championship leader and

:14:15. > :14:16.there are just five races left this season. We expect interim manager

:14:17. > :14:18.Gareth Southgate to hold a press conference this morning which will

:14:19. > :14:21.be interesting, if not a little edgy? There are questions people

:14:22. > :14:23.will want to know about. Some of the Sam Allardyce goings-on. Gareth

:14:24. > :14:27.Southgate has been put in place. He will be speaking around ten o'clock

:14:28. > :14:32.this morning, to explain his first choices regarding the senior England

:14:33. > :14:35.squad. The first game will see him take charge against Malta. Glen

:14:36. > :14:40.Johnson has been recalled to the squad in the major shock, he hasn't

:14:41. > :14:44.played since the World Cup 2014. His return is mostly due to injuries.

:14:45. > :14:48.Nathaniel Clyne has an injury and Adam Lallana has an injury. Glen

:14:49. > :14:52.Johnson has only played in three Premier League matches this season.

:14:53. > :14:57.Also in the squad are the Manchester United pair of Jesse Lingard and

:14:58. > :15:01.Marcus Rashford. Jesse Lingard played for Gareth Southgate in the

:15:02. > :15:04.under 21 squad. He has been named in the senior squad once before but

:15:05. > :15:08.didn't make it onto the field. Not as much of a shock for Marcus

:15:09. > :15:14.Rashford, still only 18, but scored a hat-trick on his England under 21

:15:15. > :15:20.debut. More details on that and hopefully a little bit more from

:15:21. > :15:24.Gareth Southgate at around ten o'clock. And family, Juan Mata made

:15:25. > :15:27.examples firm's day over the weekend question up yes, the day before the

:15:28. > :15:32.game on Saturday, the team were meeting up and heading out to

:15:33. > :15:39.Manchester. Juan Mata recognised a little boy. Ran up to him, very

:15:40. > :15:44.lovely, very instant reaction from him, gave him a hug and I think that

:15:45. > :15:48.is his father he hugs as well. Took some photos, had a little chat,

:15:49. > :15:51.seems to be giving them some contact details or swapping some

:15:52. > :15:55.information. He spends a bit of time with him. Holding up the entire of

:15:56. > :15:59.the United team, while waiting on the bus. He made his way round

:16:00. > :16:04.security to get out and try to speak to them. Everyone in a bit of a

:16:05. > :16:13.rush, but he took his time and has a little chat with them and then goes

:16:14. > :16:16.back to the bus. A lovely moment, which happen to be caught. Very nice

:16:17. > :16:19.to see the footballers that we'll talk about how much money they have

:16:20. > :16:20.and all the rest of, but they are very national and -- natural and

:16:21. > :16:24.human as well. Thank you. Tracking down an Islamist extremist

:16:25. > :16:27.just hours before he committed a terrorist attack on a group

:16:28. > :16:29.of British school children, following Russian spies trying

:16:30. > :16:31.to steal British military secrets and narrowly avoiding

:16:32. > :16:34.being kidnapped and beheaded while trailing a suspect

:16:35. > :16:44.on the streets of London. This was everyday life for more

:16:45. > :16:47.than eight years for Tom Marcus while he was working

:16:48. > :16:50.as a surveillance officer for MI5. Tom Marcus isn't his real name

:16:51. > :16:53.and we're not going to show his face on the programme today

:16:54. > :16:56.because as a former MI5 officer he must never reveal his true

:16:57. > :16:58.identity in public. Everything he's going to talk

:16:59. > :17:00.about has been vetted and cleared Names and some specific details

:17:01. > :17:04.in the book have been changed in order to protect colleagues

:17:05. > :17:06.and ensure current and future He is speaking exclusively to us

:17:07. > :17:22.in his first ever broadcast Good morning, Tom. Good morning.

:17:23. > :17:27.Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on. If you had to describe

:17:28. > :17:32.your job. How would you sum it up? It is a mobile surveillance officer

:17:33. > :17:35.for MI5, but that what that means is being on the ground hunting the most

:17:36. > :17:41.dangerous terrorists in the world. Those terrorists want to harm and

:17:42. > :17:45.destroy the western way in our country and it was my job to find

:17:46. > :17:48.them on the ground with the rest of the team and rip apart their lives.

:17:49. > :17:53.We see everything they do and make sure that anything they try to do,

:17:54. > :17:59.we see and prevent. It is extremely fast. Really, really fast paced, we

:18:00. > :18:07.don't see our families a lot and it is incredibly dangerous, but as a

:18:08. > :18:12.team, we are the best hunters in the world.

:18:13. > :18:16.Pam asks this on Twitter, "How did you become an agent?" I was actually

:18:17. > :18:23.recruited from special operations in the military. I joined the Army at

:18:24. > :18:28.16 just as a lot of boy soldiers do. Never really dreaming or thinking

:18:29. > :18:37.that they would end up as an MI5 officer. I was actually forced into

:18:38. > :18:41.special operations. The Commanding Officer at the time saw something in

:18:42. > :18:45.me as a young soldier and he volunteered me for the selection

:18:46. > :18:49.process and I never heard of military special operations, covert,

:18:50. > :18:53.counter-terrorism at that point. I was the youngest one to ever go on

:18:54. > :19:02.to the selection process and actually pass it and from there I

:19:03. > :19:04.went to work covertly in Northern Ireland in countering the

:19:05. > :19:10.paramilitary threat over there. Rising through the ranks and

:19:11. > :19:17.becoming a team commander out there. My handler at the time, who was MI5

:19:18. > :19:22.himself, an intelligence officer, wanted to change the shape of the

:19:23. > :19:28.surveillance officers in MI5 at the time. So he wanted to start

:19:29. > :19:31.recruiting people who were more comfortable on the streets because

:19:32. > :19:37.when we operate in MI5 over here n the k, we don't operate in the nice

:19:38. > :19:42.areas in Chelsea and Kensington, we are in the rough areas of the UK so

:19:43. > :19:46.they needed people that could live on the streets easily. I was

:19:47. > :19:52.comfortable living in hard areas. I was actually tapped on the shoulder

:19:53. > :19:56.by my MI5 handler at the time to come and join the service officially

:19:57. > :20:00.and that was at a time when applications were close to 100,000

:20:01. > :20:04.applicants a year. It was quite rare that people did get tapped on the

:20:05. > :20:08.shoulder and I was incredibly lucky that happened and then I was soon

:20:09. > :20:13.officially working for MI5 rather than deniably for the military.

:20:14. > :20:19.Right. What are the disadvantages of being an under cover MI5 officer? It

:20:20. > :20:23.has a huge impact on your family... Nick says, "Do you have a family?

:20:24. > :20:30.Did they know what you were an agent?" A lot of us have families. I

:20:31. > :20:35.was incredibly lucky that my wife at the time, who was also expression

:20:36. > :20:40.operations before I was recruited by MI5, so she knew the ins and outs of

:20:41. > :20:45.working covertly, but that said, we didn't tell her family what I did

:20:46. > :20:49.when I was recruited. So you still have a huge level of deception from

:20:50. > :20:53.the people that you love and it is out of protection. You don't want to

:20:54. > :20:56.give them all the information because you don't want them to

:20:57. > :21:00.become some sort of target. What do you tell people? You can't tell them

:21:01. > :21:04.that you are a spy, what do you say? I come up with a plausible story

:21:05. > :21:07.that I was working as a delivery driver for the Ministry of Defence

:21:08. > :21:12.and as soon as people hear, oh you are a delivery driver, that's

:21:13. > :21:15.incredibly boring, I won't ask you anymore questions which works

:21:16. > :21:19.perfectly for people like us. It allows us to get life insurance, as

:21:20. > :21:23.an MI5 officer on the ground, no one in their right mind is going to give

:21:24. > :21:28.you life insurance so you say, "I work for the Ministry of Defence as

:21:29. > :21:31.a delivery driver. ." That's plausible because you drive around

:21:32. > :21:38.the country. We keep a lot of those details secret from the people that

:21:39. > :21:41.we love. OK. I'm going to say talk us through a typical surveillance

:21:42. > :21:46.operation. Every single one is different. Clearly, they have unique

:21:47. > :21:49.elements, but talk us through a typical surveillance operation, what

:21:50. > :21:54.you would be looking for in a particular area? Who you're looking

:21:55. > :21:57.out for? What you have to notice and how you communicate that to your

:21:58. > :22:01.team? Typically for maybe yourself and the people who are watching at

:22:02. > :22:05.home, when they go to work, they would take the same routes and you

:22:06. > :22:09.wouldn't necessarily notice a car that was parked at a different

:22:10. > :22:14.angel. Someone sitting in a parked vehicle, you know, half a mile away,

:22:15. > :22:17.why would you notice that? Someone sitting at a bus stop with two

:22:18. > :22:21.mobile phones or a heavier jacket than anybody else. Those are the

:22:22. > :22:26.sorts of details that we instantly see, but for a typical operation we

:22:27. > :22:33.would deploy on the ground as a team and we would know the target that

:22:34. > :22:37.we're hunting. And I say hunting because it is very much we know the

:22:38. > :22:43.target who we're going after and we are going to get them. Right. Why

:22:44. > :22:47.don't we have a specific. Tell our audience about you being a homeless

:22:48. > :22:51.man opposite a mosque and the target that you are looking for and how you

:22:52. > :22:58.felt you lost them, but then found them again? Yeah. So this particular

:22:59. > :23:02.target was, like a lot of the people that we're interested in are hell

:23:03. > :23:08.bent on killing a lot of people. And we knew that they were going to go

:23:09. > :23:13.and, they wanted to commit mass murder at a local school, but we

:23:14. > :23:17.didn't know the details, but we knew it was going to be soon. This target

:23:18. > :23:20.was on the way to prayers at the mosque. Fine we had them completely

:23:21. > :23:25.under control. We could see everything. My job at that time was

:23:26. > :23:31.to go and watch them come out of the mosque and the only way to do that

:23:32. > :23:35.for me was to dress as a homeless person, sitting on a soggy bit of

:23:36. > :23:42.cardboard pretend to go ask for change. My clothes were soaked in my

:23:43. > :23:46.own urine, it complimented the cover, so everyone walking past me,

:23:47. > :23:51.didn't play a bind bit of attention to me which was perfect. The

:23:52. > :23:55.problems started to escalate when the people or the people coming out

:23:56. > :24:02.of the mosque after prayers, I couldn't see him. And I suspected he

:24:03. > :24:06.changed his appearance when I had a normal habit of when there is a few

:24:07. > :24:12.female worshippers going into the mosque, I would make a mental note

:24:13. > :24:20.of how many had gone in and more came out than went in. I scpted he

:24:21. > :24:25.changed his appearance. Ie dresses in a burka? Yes. Just as the team

:24:26. > :24:28.were starting to check different possibles that looked like our

:24:29. > :24:34.target, I noticed this person walking past me in a burka and just

:24:35. > :24:39.as they strode past me not paying me any attention the burka rose up and

:24:40. > :24:43.I could see the same sandals that our target had worn going in, that

:24:44. > :24:47.was a clear indication that he possibly changed his appearance.

:24:48. > :24:51.Luckily for us, I decided to follow that target on my own while the rest

:24:52. > :24:57.of the team were checking other possibilities. And he had gone to a

:24:58. > :25:02.local address, came out quickly and I was still on my own and he shaved

:25:03. > :25:06.his beard off and changed his appearance and got into a different

:25:07. > :25:12.vehicle that we weren't watching for, it was his uncle's vehicle.

:25:13. > :25:16.Vehicle. That we defieded to follow and we called in an arrest team when

:25:17. > :25:19.we did realise it was him, it was a distinct possibility it was him, the

:25:20. > :25:26.vehicle registration plate was linked. We called in a hard arrest

:25:27. > :25:30.by special forces who sometimes work with us instead of the police who

:25:31. > :25:37.react really, really fast. And we found out that he had a boot full of

:25:38. > :25:43.weapons and explosives and he was about to kill two coach full of

:25:44. > :25:47.children and their parents waiting to pick them up. Wow. It is a very,

:25:48. > :25:52.very typical operation that things you go out on the ground knowing the

:25:53. > :25:56.target that you're hunting and then things change and you have to adapt

:25:57. > :26:01.and the team adapt so, so quickly and that's what makes the MI5

:26:02. > :26:06.surveillance teams A4 the best in the world at this. When an arrest

:26:07. > :26:13.like that is made, when it is successful, what emotions do you

:26:14. > :26:18.experience? You can imagine that it's very adrenalin-filled, but for

:26:19. > :26:21.us as operators on the ground, when we're in full flow and there is an

:26:22. > :26:25.arrest going on and we're finding and chasing and hunting the targets,

:26:26. > :26:29.it is very calm for us. The worst part of an operation for us is when

:26:30. > :26:33.we're waiting for our particular target or targets to come out in the

:26:34. > :26:40.open, waiting for them to come out so that we can see them. So when

:26:41. > :26:45.we're calling in, you know, special forces, and we call it executive

:26:46. > :26:50.action so when there is pinning the cars in and dragging them out under

:26:51. > :26:54.armed guard that's calming for us, we know we are in complete control.

:26:55. > :26:57.They're not going to get away and then the nice bit for us is that

:26:58. > :27:04.that leads on to ten more operations and we can keep going. I've got

:27:05. > :27:10.loads of questions from our audience and comments. I've got more comments

:27:11. > :27:15.from me having gone through the book. I will be brief with the

:27:16. > :27:20.questions, "Do you think Isis can be defeated or are they too big to

:27:21. > :27:24.defeat?" For me, personally, speaking, the ideology is always

:27:25. > :27:28.going to change. Decades ago, the biggest threat was the

:27:29. > :27:32.paramilitaries, the Irish. Then it became Al-Qaeda. Now, it is Isis.

:27:33. > :27:37.The ideology is always going to change, but for an MI5 operator like

:27:38. > :27:41.me, it don't care what they are ideologies arement they want to hurt

:27:42. > :27:45.us and we are going to do everything we can to stop them. They maybe the

:27:46. > :27:48.hardest terrorists in the world, but from a surveillance operator they

:27:49. > :27:53.have not met anyone like us and we will not let them succeed. Kay texts

:27:54. > :28:03.this, "How much information do MI5 and MI6 share?" It is constant and

:28:04. > :28:06.that makes the this the most secure country, GCHQ, MI6, MI5, we

:28:07. > :28:11.constantly share information. There is no animosity or rivalry between

:28:12. > :28:16.us and like I say, and I keep repeating it, that's what makes us

:28:17. > :28:21.the best in the world. We work hand in glove to help each other. The BBC

:28:22. > :28:24.should be ashamed of itself for interviewing this nonevent of a

:28:25. > :28:30.supposed spy. These matters are kept secret for good reason. By doing so,

:28:31. > :28:35.we avoid risk to other serving personnel? Your book has been

:28:36. > :28:38.vetted. Various names have been changed and various details you had

:28:39. > :28:42.to remove and the Security Services had to give you permission to talk

:28:43. > :28:47.to us today. Absolutely, yeah. So I mean, is there anything in the book

:28:48. > :28:50.that could risk future operations? Your colleagues, your former

:28:51. > :28:54.colleagues? No, I have been incredibly disciplined about that. I

:28:55. > :28:59.didn't want to put anyone of my family or my former team at risk.

:29:00. > :29:03.The important book about the book is that people should feel proud and

:29:04. > :29:10.safe when they read tr. Because it goes a long way, when people at home

:29:11. > :29:13.perhaps see the media, they could be lulled into thinking we are

:29:14. > :29:17.constantly under attack and we are about to get blown up any minutement

:29:18. > :29:22.it is important to tell the other side of that, to give the world the

:29:23. > :29:25.knowledge that we're not super human on the ground, but we are relentless

:29:26. > :29:29.in stopping these people and they should be proud and safe in the

:29:30. > :29:33.knowledge that we're not going to let anyone get hurt as long as we

:29:34. > :29:39.can stay on the ground and stop these people. Tell our audience

:29:40. > :29:43.about the time when you had to attack a plain clothed police

:29:44. > :29:49.officer in order to save his life in a pub in Glasgow. That's not one of

:29:50. > :29:58.my proudest moments. When we operate in these hard, hard areas, things,

:29:59. > :30:03.you have to be extremely reactive to the situation and completely fluid.

:30:04. > :30:09.So that particular operation was watch ago really high-profile IRA

:30:10. > :30:16.meeting in Glasgow. Everyone in that pub was either an IRA sympathiser or

:30:17. > :30:25.an IRA member who you are living in amongst known killers. Extremely

:30:26. > :30:28.dangerous to people like me. This plain clotsed policeman walked in

:30:29. > :30:35.and I don't know why he was there on his own, but I knew he was there to

:30:36. > :30:39.interview or perhaps arrest the landlord's son who had recently fled

:30:40. > :30:42.Northern Ireland because he had killed someone over there so he came

:30:43. > :30:47.to the safety of relative safety of what he knew.

:30:48. > :30:57.I was there for this meeting. When the plainclothes cop walked in, the

:30:58. > :31:03.IRA meeting I was watching had its own security detail, watching for

:31:04. > :31:06.people like me. They noticed him coming and signal to people across

:31:07. > :31:13.the pub to take him out, to kill him. So other people walked in,

:31:14. > :31:18.walked over to him, directly over to him, with butterfly knives. I truly

:31:19. > :31:22.believed they were going to kill him on the spot. MI5 as a whole, isn't

:31:23. > :31:31.in the business of killing people. We are here to save lives. No matter

:31:32. > :31:33.how big a profile meeting it was, I couldn't let whatever actions,

:31:34. > :31:40.whether stupid or not, I couldn't let him die. But I had to keep my

:31:41. > :31:45.cover intact, I'd been their hours and I didn't want to spook the IRA

:31:46. > :31:50.meeting anyway. I had to protect myself. The only way I could do that

:31:51. > :31:53.was to take him on myself. Though I smashed a bottle over his head and

:31:54. > :32:00.dragged him out of the pub, posing as the aggressive drunk, wanting

:32:01. > :32:03.first blood. But by doing that I stopped the guys coming in with

:32:04. > :32:08.knives who are hell-bent killing him straightaway. And you were

:32:09. > :32:15.reprimanded for that? You defended yourself, you explained why, but

:32:16. > :32:21.your boss kind of took one for you, is that fair? The branch director

:32:22. > :32:28.looked after me. As you can imagine, they came down on me hard for that.

:32:29. > :32:33.But being on the ground, you have to be extremely, extremely reactive and

:32:34. > :32:37.it sometimes making a bad choice, that's the only choice you've got.

:32:38. > :32:41.Was I going to let that die die? Absolutely not, we are in the

:32:42. > :32:44.business of protecting people. But by hurting him, that was the only

:32:45. > :32:50.way I could think that quickly to take him out myself. You have left

:32:51. > :32:56.MI5 because you were diagnosed with PTSD. Obviously because of your

:32:57. > :33:01.experiences, and because it was taking over your life. Every trip

:33:02. > :33:08.out with wife and child, you were looking for threats. On one occasion

:33:09. > :33:14.you were convinced in a shopping centre that was about to detonate a

:33:15. > :33:19.suicide vest in a store and he was stealing a television. But you are

:33:20. > :33:28.that close to taking him out? Yeah. A big part of PTSD is hyper visions.

:33:29. > :33:31.It's what makes MI5 surveillance operators extremely good at our

:33:32. > :33:36.jobs, because we notice everything that stands out. The problem with

:33:37. > :33:46.that is, because we are so hyper vigilant, you can't switch it off.

:33:47. > :33:49.In that particular instance, where a normal family big shop, as we said

:33:50. > :33:56.in the north, you go and bring everything in, normal shop, and

:33:57. > :34:00.something tweaked this couple that I just didn't like. It stood out.

:34:01. > :34:06.Walking up the escalator together and then split. Like that. Yes, the

:34:07. > :34:10.guy had a bigger coat on than normal. My wife having a similar

:34:11. > :34:17.background, noticed the slight change in me. She took the family

:34:18. > :34:24.for the shop and let me get on with it. That's the impact it has on your

:34:25. > :34:30.family, it does encroach, but I did take them on and I was ready to take

:34:31. > :34:34.them out. I wasn't 100% sure... He was going to do something, blow

:34:35. > :34:41.something up, but the way he was acting was out of the norm. In the

:34:42. > :34:45.end, his act was ripping the security tag out of the box of a big

:34:46. > :34:49.TV. I watched them take it out and later on I thought, good on you, not

:34:50. > :34:54.for stealing, but having that audacity to try and survive on the

:34:55. > :35:01.streets. I can relate to that. Right... So you're discharged,

:35:02. > :35:07.effectively, from the service, if that's the right term. But it's very

:35:08. > :35:12.hard to explain many CV what you've been doing for the last eight years

:35:13. > :35:18.because you can't tell people? Yes, impossible. Unless you go into

:35:19. > :35:22.private surveillance contracting, which due to the diagnosis... Not a

:35:23. > :35:26.good idea. You just can't do it. When you go for interviews a new

:35:27. > :35:30.thing, I have so much to offer, I could really make a difference to

:35:31. > :35:33.any company. You start going for well-paid jobs and they say, tell me

:35:34. > :35:38.what you've been doing for the last ten years? Why is there a massive

:35:39. > :35:45.gap in your CV? You can't. There's no way of explaining it, no matter

:35:46. > :35:50.how much you try. So you right back at the bottom of the pile, doing

:35:51. > :35:55.anything to bring money in and fill your role as husband and father,

:35:56. > :36:00.which is the most important role, I think. It's so difficult to do. Let

:36:01. > :36:05.me read some more messages for you. Debra says we will never grasped the

:36:06. > :36:08.sacrifices these incredible individuals make to our security,

:36:09. > :36:12.they are unsung heroes. Sean says, thank you for your help in keeping

:36:13. > :36:17.us all safe. Another person says at all respect to him risking his life

:36:18. > :36:22.to keep us safe. And another says, give him thanks for his hard work

:36:23. > :36:24.and keeping us safe on the streets. Jonathan is as compelling MI5

:36:25. > :36:30.interview on your programme right now. Tom, amazing interview. The

:36:31. > :36:35.whole office is gripped. And this from David, MI5 spy question, how do

:36:36. > :36:40.you take your vodka martini? LAUGHTER

:36:41. > :36:49.I think it's important, soldier spy goes a long way to dispel that Miss,

:36:50. > :36:54.no jet planes or casino. When you watch programmes like Homeland or

:36:55. > :36:59.Spooks, is that nothing like reality? It is hugely entertaining

:37:00. > :37:03.but nothing like the reality happening on the ground. Off the

:37:04. > :37:07.back of the book we are working with the TV production company to give a

:37:08. > :37:11.real good TV series of the book. That will hopefully bring the

:37:12. > :37:17.reality of it, but it's extremely hard-hitting. It's fast. You have to

:37:18. > :37:23.lie to the people that you love to protect them, and it consumes you.

:37:24. > :37:30.All we want to do as operators, we are completely different to the

:37:31. > :37:33.people who make the plans, the geeks who stay in the office and

:37:34. > :37:39.disseminate the information we get. We are on the ground, in the dirt,

:37:40. > :37:44.on the streets, pretending to be builders or on the streets. We could

:37:45. > :37:48.be on the bus with a target who perhaps has a bomb in their

:37:49. > :37:52.backpack, completely unarmed. We do everything we can to stop these

:37:53. > :37:58.people and it's what we live for. The people watching the show should

:37:59. > :38:01.be extremely proud of the ones who are still out there, doing this

:38:02. > :38:06.protecting, because like I say, we are the best in the world. Thank you

:38:07. > :38:07.very much, Tom. Thank you for coming on the programmes is really

:38:08. > :38:08.interesting talking you. Tom Marcus's book about his

:38:09. > :38:11.career called Soldier Spy Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom

:38:12. > :38:16.with a summary of today's news. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:38:17. > :38:19.will say today that a new, more pragmatic economic plan

:38:20. > :38:21.is required to tackle the "new circumstances" brought

:38:22. > :38:23.about by the Brexit vote. In his address to the Conservative

:38:24. > :38:25.Party conference in Birmingham, he'll confirm that he's abandoning

:38:26. > :38:29.George Osborne's timetable of But he'll also make clear that it

:38:30. > :38:41.doesn't mean an end to austerity. Kim Kardashian has been held up

:38:42. > :38:43.and robbed at gunpoint in a luxury apartment in Paris,

:38:44. > :38:51.by men dressed as police officers. Police say they stole jewellery box

:38:52. > :38:55.containing valuables worth more than ?5 million and a bring valued at ?3

:38:56. > :38:56.million. She wasn't physically

:38:57. > :38:58.harmed, but she's said Her husband - Kanye West -

:38:59. > :39:02.cut short a show in New York when he heard the news,

:39:03. > :39:05.telling his fans he was leaving Colombia's President says he'll

:39:06. > :39:08.continue to work for peace, after voters narrowly rejected

:39:09. > :39:10.a hard-won agreement with FARC rebels to end five

:39:11. > :39:12.decades of conflict. The agreement - signed last week

:39:13. > :39:15.in a high profile ceremony - was rejected in a referendum

:39:16. > :39:18.by a razor-thin margin. More than 13 million

:39:19. > :39:21.people cast their ballots, with the 'no' camp winning

:39:22. > :39:28.by fewer than 60,000 votes. The strongest Atlantic hurricane

:39:29. > :39:30.in a decade is expected to batter several Caribbean

:39:31. > :39:32.islands later today. Haiti is likely to be the worst hit,

:39:33. > :39:35.but Jamaica is also braced for flash floods and winds of up to 150

:39:36. > :39:39.miles per hour. Parts of Jamaica have already been

:39:40. > :39:41.lashed by rain and strong winds, with flood waters blocking roads

:39:42. > :39:49.in the capital, Kingston. The Monty Python actor and director,

:39:50. > :39:52.Terry Jones, has made his first public appearance since announcing

:39:53. > :39:54.he'd been diagnosed with dementia - accepting a Bafta Cymru award

:39:55. > :39:56.for his contribution He was presented with the award

:39:57. > :40:00.at a ceremony in Cardiff, by his Monty Python co-star,

:40:01. > :40:07.Michael Palin. He has his illness now,

:40:08. > :40:12.and he is withdrawing, in a sense, because of this phase

:40:13. > :40:14.which affects his speech. It's sad to see, but I didn't

:40:15. > :40:17.feel sad tonight, I felt That's a summary of the latest BBC

:40:18. > :40:24.News - more at 10am. Here's this morning's sports

:40:25. > :40:28.headlines now with Karthi. The USA have won only their second

:40:29. > :40:32.Ryder Cup this century beating Europe by 17 points

:40:33. > :40:36.to 11 at Hazeltine. They dominated the singles matches

:40:37. > :40:39.on the final day, with Rory McIlroy losing to Patrick Reed

:40:40. > :40:42.in the opening match of the day. Aston Villa are searching

:40:43. > :40:45.for a new manager again after sacking Roberto di Matteo this

:40:46. > :40:48.morning - the Italian has been Villa are 19th in the Championship,

:40:49. > :40:53.after being relegated from There has been a surprise recall

:40:54. > :41:01.for Stoke City defender Glen Johnson in Gareth Southgate's first England

:41:02. > :41:03.squad for the World Cup qualifiers Johnson hasn't figured for England

:41:04. > :41:07.since the 2014 World Cup. Manchester City's 100%

:41:08. > :41:08.start to the Premier They were beaten 2-0

:41:09. > :41:14.by Tottenham, who are now up to second in the table

:41:15. > :41:17.and enjoying their best start to a league campaign

:41:18. > :41:19.in more than 50 years. There was better news

:41:20. > :41:21.for Manchester City Women. They have won the double

:41:22. > :41:23.after beating Birmingham City to win They won the Super League title

:41:24. > :41:36.a week ago. It is women in sport week, which is

:41:37. > :41:38.about getting more active. More details at ten o'clock.

:41:39. > :41:40.A new economic plan is needed to address the challenges facing

:41:41. > :41:44.That's what the chancellor Philip Hammond will tell

:41:45. > :41:45.the Conservative Party conference today -

:41:46. > :41:51.What has Theresa May achieved in the 82 three days

:41:52. > :41:54.since she became Conservative Prime Minister?

:41:55. > :41:57.Her Majesty The Queen has as me to form a new

:41:58. > :42:00.First, David Cameron said his goodbyes.

:42:01. > :42:10.Mrs May, who voted to stay in the European Union,

:42:11. > :42:12.began work on Brexit by appointing key voices in the Leave campaign

:42:13. > :42:20.We face a time of great national change.

:42:21. > :42:22.I know, because we are Great Britain, that we will

:42:23. > :42:26.And she tried to make the right noises abroad.

:42:27. > :42:36.Back at home she picked a political fight over her plans to create

:42:37. > :42:40.Equality of opportunity is not segregating children

:42:41. > :42:48.He believes in levelling down, we believe in levelling up.

:42:49. > :42:51.She dropped George Osborne and Mrs May decided,

:42:52. > :42:53.after taking her time, to go ahead with building

:42:54. > :42:59.She annoyed Jamie Oliver when she axed plans to limit

:43:00. > :43:06.But all of that will be a sideshow compared to Brexit.

:43:07. > :43:15.But what it really means, we'll find out next year.

:43:16. > :43:20.Our political guru Norman Smith is at the conference in Birmingham.

:43:21. > :43:27.What mood are the delegates in? Pretty good, I think. Theresa May

:43:28. > :43:31.has gone for the Brexit bandwagon. She wants to put her foot on the gas

:43:32. > :43:38.and move ahead quickly. She said she will trigger Article 50, at the

:43:39. > :43:43.latest by next March. She said she will introduce this great repeal

:43:44. > :43:47.bill to end the authority of EU law in the spring. You get the sense

:43:48. > :43:50.this is one woman who has her foot on the accelerator and is moving

:43:51. > :43:58.ahead quickly with Brexit. How does that go down with Tory party

:43:59. > :44:10.members? I am joined by quad bike. Rachel, a remainer,. -- I'm joined

:44:11. > :44:16.by Rachel. As a remainer, do you think crikey, slow down? I was a

:44:17. > :44:19.remainer but I think we have the right team to take us in the right

:44:20. > :44:24.direction. I am confident with Theresa May's balance of giving us

:44:25. > :44:29.as much information as we need but not giving the whole game awaits. We

:44:30. > :44:33.know she was herself a remainer. Are you surprised that the extent to

:44:34. > :44:39.which she seems to be going ahead with Brexit so fast? Not especially.

:44:40. > :44:43.There is no choice. There is no going back. The country voted to

:44:44. > :44:50.leave that has to be respected. I think she absolutely to. I do agree,

:44:51. > :44:56.she has taken the right approach. I think it would be full hardy to have

:44:57. > :45:02.headlines before policy. I think she is taking sensible approach to it.

:45:03. > :45:09.Jack, what do you say? You wanted Brexit. Are we in or out of the

:45:10. > :45:12.single market? Everything we have heard from Theresa May so far

:45:13. > :45:19.suggests we will not be part of the single market. Does that concern

:45:20. > :45:22.you? Not at all, I think that Prime Minister handled things perfectly

:45:23. > :45:27.properly. She didn't bow down to the pressure of those on the doorsteps

:45:28. > :45:30.of number ten calling to invoke Article 50 immediately. I'm glad she

:45:31. > :45:35.waited for the right time. Good things are worth waiting for. If we

:45:36. > :45:40.do Brexit, I want to make a success of it. At the same time I am

:45:41. > :45:43.seriously concerned about the lack of negotiators and skilled trade

:45:44. > :45:48.negotiators this country has at the moment. Do you think it can be done

:45:49. > :45:52.in two years? If we don't have negotiators can we cut the deal in

:45:53. > :45:56.that time? Completely. Likewise said, I think good things are worth

:45:57. > :46:00.waiting for. I think we should wait until we have procedures in place to

:46:01. > :46:08.ensure a smooth transition from the European union before invoking the

:46:09. > :46:11.article I think Mark is a perfect time. Harvey, the mantra of team

:46:12. > :46:13.Theresa May is about taking back control, particularly in terms of

:46:14. > :46:15.immigration. But isn't the issue most people are bothered about is

:46:16. > :46:19.not taking back control, they want to reduce numbers. I suppose the

:46:20. > :46:23.question is, what is the point of taking back control if you can't

:46:24. > :46:27.reduce numbers? Is there any sense in which Mrs May will be able to

:46:28. > :46:31.reduce numbers? We saw the commitment yesterday about numbers.

:46:32. > :46:35.Numbers are due to come down. I think it is less about... People

:46:36. > :46:38.focus on immigration but it is not about shouting ourselves off from

:46:39. > :46:42.the world but opening ourselves up to the world. It is very much the

:46:43. > :46:46.case we want skilled people coming over to this country, making a life

:46:47. > :46:48.for themselves in this country. It is out of the block and into the

:46:49. > :46:59.world very much is the approach. Who are we going to turn away, we

:47:00. > :47:04.want the skilled people and top scientists, we need care workers and

:47:05. > :47:08.plumbers and farmers, so who are we turning away? This is it. This is

:47:09. > :47:12.what we are going to be seeing. We need to keep these things quiet. I

:47:13. > :47:15.know it doesn't give the assurance to people, but the negotiations will

:47:16. > :47:20.bring in those kind of elements and you know, I see it coming to the

:47:21. > :47:23.case where if European countries keep European, the British there,

:47:24. > :47:26.then Britain will keep Europeans here and I think it is not about,

:47:27. > :47:31.you know, turning our back on Europe. We are completely, you know,

:47:32. > :47:34.at one with Europe. They are our allies, we have got a great history

:47:35. > :47:37.with Europe. It is about setting a new path in an international world

:47:38. > :47:41.with globalisation and all the other things and really, you know, going

:47:42. > :47:47.about it in our own way with trade deals. You were part of the 48%. Do

:47:48. > :47:52.you feel you've kind of been shunted to the sidelines? The 48% are really

:47:53. > :47:56.forgotten? Not at all. I think that Theresa May kind of said in her

:47:57. > :47:59.speech that she doesn't want to go for hard Brexit and neither soft

:48:00. > :48:02.Brexit. She wants to please everyone almost and that's a good approach it

:48:03. > :48:06.take. I think she is listening to the public. She is taking on board

:48:07. > :48:09.what they are saying and trying to push that forward, but of course,

:48:10. > :48:12.she doesn't want to give her game away at the same time. So I think

:48:13. > :48:17.we'll really know how much she is taking on board our opinion soon.

:48:18. > :48:24.Briefly, if I could ask Daniel and Jack, has First Lady become a born

:48:25. > :48:30.again Brexiteer? I suppose she has to be committed to it. Unless she is

:48:31. > :48:33.enthusiastic and positive about it, we won't be able to make a success

:48:34. > :48:40.of it and it is very good that she has. Jack? Well, she is going to be

:48:41. > :48:47.a Brexiteer because she has to carry out the will of the people. She is

:48:48. > :48:51.proimmigration, but she has been antidiscrimination and that's what

:48:52. > :48:54.the European Union encourages. It is interesting, Theresa May is

:48:55. > :48:57.pro-Brexit, but you have to think and look back at what happened to

:48:58. > :49:02.other Tory leaders when it comes to Europe, it has been the issue which

:49:03. > :49:06.has devoured so many of them. You think of David Cameron and John

:49:07. > :49:09.Major, you think of Mrs Thatcher, the stakes are still incredibly high

:49:10. > :49:14.for Theresa May. Thank you very much, Norman.

:49:15. > :49:16.Coverage of the Conservative Party Conference is throughout the week on

:49:17. > :49:19.BBC News. The President of the Philippines has

:49:20. > :49:22.apologised to Jews worldwide after he compared himself

:49:23. > :49:37.and his war on drugs with Hitler's Hitler massacred three million Jews.

:49:38. > :49:44.Now, there is three million drug addicts. I would be happy to

:49:45. > :49:58.slaughter them. At least if Germany had Hitler, the

:49:59. > :50:05.Philippines, my victims would like me to finish the problem of my

:50:06. > :50:07.country and save the next generation from this perdition.

:50:08. > :50:09.A spokesperson for President Rodrigo Duterte said he hadn't intended

:50:10. > :50:12.to "diminish the loss of the Jewish people during the Holocaust"

:50:13. > :50:15.but that he was "willing to kill three million drug dealers"

:50:16. > :50:16.to save the next generation of Filipinos.

:50:17. > :50:19.Since the President took office in June he's launched a brutal

:50:20. > :50:29.It's estimated that more than 3000 drug dealers and users have

:50:30. > :50:34.been killed by the state or in state-sanctioned murders.

:50:35. > :50:36.Let's talk to Richard Graham, a Conserative MP who met

:50:37. > :50:46.President Duterte on a trade mission to the Philippines.

:50:47. > :50:53.How do you react to his comments that he wants to exterminate drug

:50:54. > :50:59.addicts? Well, he has a history of tackling crime and drugs in his home

:51:00. > :51:04.city where I think he was mayor for 20 years and he reduced crime

:51:05. > :51:07.significantly so this was a big part of his presidential campaign. It is,

:51:08. > :51:13.I think, one of the main reasons why he was elected president and he

:51:14. > :51:17.normally scores very highly in local popularity for his campaigns against

:51:18. > :51:22.drugs and criminals. So I think that's the background against which

:51:23. > :51:33.we have to understand some of what he is saying, sometimes late at

:51:34. > :51:40.night. How are you reacting to his comments, comparing himself to

:51:41. > :51:44.Hitler? He started off by saying his critics were comparing him to

:51:45. > :51:51.Hitler, but in general you want to avoid any analogies to Hitler and

:51:52. > :51:54.his spokesman who is a busy man often, explaining our interpreting

:51:55. > :52:00.what his president said has clarified, you know, he didn't mean

:52:01. > :52:06.to offend people by his comments. When you met him in your role as

:52:07. > :52:09.trade envoy, I mean, presumably the serious drugs trade, the serious

:52:10. > :52:15.drugs problem they have in this country has an impact on trade?

:52:16. > :52:20.Well, I don't think the drugs problem as such impacts UK,

:52:21. > :52:23.Philippines trade hugely so that wasn't something we really focussed

:52:24. > :52:29.on during the discussion I had with him. But clearly, the rule of law is

:52:30. > :52:33.absolutely vital. It is vital for British businesses as much as it is

:52:34. > :52:38.for people in the Philippines who maybe being pursued by the police.

:52:39. > :52:41.What did you make of the president? What's he like? He is an interesting

:52:42. > :52:46.man. I think President Obama called him colourful. He's certainly

:52:47. > :52:52.colourful. He is a great fan of Andy Murray's. He watched Andy Murray win

:52:53. > :52:56.the Olympics title in 2012 and clamber over the chairs to go and

:52:57. > :52:59.greet his team and his mother and President Duterte was very impressed

:53:00. > :53:03.by that. He thought it showed that Andy Murray had strong family values

:53:04. > :53:08.which is something he talks about a lot too.

:53:09. > :53:12.Thank you, Richard Graham, Conservative MP.

:53:13. > :53:16.Coming up, we'll be live in Paris, where Kim Kardashian has been left

:53:17. > :53:22.badly shaken after being robbed at gunpoint.

:53:23. > :53:27.?10 million of her jewellery has reportedly been stolen.

:53:28. > :53:30.The son of Monty Python actor and director Terry Jones broke down

:53:31. > :53:33.in tears as he helped his father accept a Welsh Bafta for

:53:34. > :53:38.One of the funniest men on British TV announced last month that he has

:53:39. > :53:43.And his son Bill Jones joined him on stage to accept the accolade,

:53:44. > :53:48.presented to him by fellow python, Michael Palin.

:53:49. > :53:54.Terry has been relentlessly livic whilst remaining the nicest man and

:53:55. > :53:59.the most wonderful friend. For all the joy and the pleasure and the

:54:00. > :54:02.laughter and the stimulation he has brought to so many people I can

:54:03. > :54:05.think of no one more worthy of recognition tonight.

:54:06. > :54:27.APPLAUSE We would just like to say thank you,

:54:28. > :54:33.everyone. I know it is a great honour for dad to win this award and

:54:34. > :54:42.the struggles we're having at the minute is a bit hard, but we're so

:54:43. > :54:46.proud of him. Thank you. APPLAUSE

:54:47. > :54:51.Our correspondent John Maguire was at last night's ceremony.

:54:52. > :54:58.Incredibly moving, wasn't it John? It really, was very moving indeed as

:54:59. > :55:01.you saw Michael Palin giving the award, they have been friends and

:55:02. > :55:07.colleagues and co-writers for more than 50 years. They met at Oxford

:55:08. > :55:11.University at the beginning of the 60, I spoke to Michael Palin and he

:55:12. > :55:14.said he was proud and incredibly happy to honour his friend. There

:55:15. > :55:18.was a standing ovation as you could probably tell and the room was

:55:19. > :55:22.really quite emotional. Terry Jones as we've heard because of the on-set

:55:23. > :55:28.of his dementia finds it extremely hard to talk. He clearly was visibly

:55:29. > :55:31.moved as was his son, Bill Jones, of course, who was with him to help

:55:32. > :55:35.guide him up on to the stage and to accept the award. There was a

:55:36. > :55:39.wonderful moment and Terry Jones, during the standing ovation, he was

:55:40. > :55:43.trying to get people to sit down as you could probably see from the

:55:44. > :55:47.pictures and he held the BAFTA mask, the award in front of his face and

:55:48. > :55:53.that caused light relief among the crowd. Just a prolific career he had

:55:54. > :55:57.not only as a Python, but also as a writer, as a director, he made

:55:58. > :56:02.historical documentaries and written books and he is a very well well

:56:03. > :56:05.respected scholar too. A real renaissance man throughout his

:56:06. > :56:09.career and a night that Michael Palin said he was extremely proud to

:56:10. > :56:13.be part of and also the fact that it was in Wales. Terry Jones has always

:56:14. > :56:19.been a proud Welshman. Very proud of his roots. So it meant a lot to him,

:56:20. > :56:22.to his family and to Michael Palin and indeed to everybody who was at

:56:23. > :56:28.the ceremony last night, I think. Thanks, John, thank you very much.

:56:29. > :56:36.Now the latest weather update and Hurricane Matthew as well? Yes,

:56:37. > :56:40.that's right. It was very briefly a Category 5, hurricane which is the

:56:41. > :56:47.largest category of hurricanes. It is now a Category 4. You can see it

:56:48. > :56:53.here nicely. There is the eye of tr. This grey area next to it is an

:56:54. > :56:56.enhanced area of heavy rainment it will be tracking northwards towards

:56:57. > :57:02.the Jamaica channel and it will bring with it a lot of rain. We're

:57:03. > :57:08.looking at 400 to 600 millimetres of rainfall, but in some parts of Haiti

:57:09. > :57:12.in particular, we could have as much as 1,000 millimetres, that's a meter

:57:13. > :57:16.of rainfall. Haiti too, very much prone to landslides. It is very

:57:17. > :57:21.mountainous. There will be huge storm surge as well and a risk of

:57:22. > :57:25.flash flooding so both these situation are life threatening and

:57:26. > :57:29.you can the window arrows, still gusts of 145mph. Closer to home,

:57:30. > :57:33.things are quieter. This week, we're looking at sunny spells. It will be

:57:34. > :57:37.breezy. If you're in the breeze and out of the sun, it will feel chilly,

:57:38. > :57:41.but we're looking at chilly nights generally. Now what's going on is

:57:42. > :57:43.that we've got a weather front out towards the west today. That is

:57:44. > :57:47.bringing in a bit more cloud. You can tell from the isobars, it is

:57:48. > :57:50.breezier in the west and the weather front could produce the odd spot of

:57:51. > :57:54.drizzle, the odd light shur across north western parts of Northern

:57:55. > :57:59.Ireland or the Outer Hebrides. The mist and fog that we've got lifting.

:58:00. > :58:03.There is cloud across eastern parts, but really just turning the sunshine

:58:04. > :58:07.milkier. For most it will be a beautiful day with sunshine and dry,

:58:08. > :58:12.if you like it that way. Later on, we are looking at more cloud forming

:58:13. > :58:16.across East Anglia. So this afternoon, still quite cloudy across

:58:17. > :58:19.the outer heb bury December, but the cloud will thin and break and we

:58:20. > :58:21.will see brightness. The rest of the Scotland seeing sunshine and the

:58:22. > :58:26.cloud also thinning and breaking in Northern Ireland. Sunshine for you

:58:27. > :58:30.too. When we lose the mist and fog for most of England and Wales, it

:58:31. > :58:33.will be a sunny day with blue skies, more cloud forming across East

:58:34. > :58:38.Anglia later. It has been a cold start for some of us with a touch of

:58:39. > :58:41.frost, but in the sunshine temperatures picking up nicely, 16

:58:42. > :58:44.to 17 Celsius, maybe 19 Celsius in the Channel Islands. This evening

:58:45. > :58:48.and overnight, we start to pull in more of an easterly flow. And that's

:58:49. > :58:51.going to drag in moisture from the North Sea. So we will have more

:58:52. > :58:58.cloud across central and eastern parts. So therefore, not as much of

:58:59. > :59:00.an issue with patchy mist and fog or frost. Tomorrow we have that cloud

:59:01. > :59:04.still very much with us, but through the day, it too will tend to thin

:59:05. > :59:08.and break and we will see sunshine coming through. Our weather front is

:59:09. > :59:11.still out to the west, still threatens at times, parts of

:59:12. > :59:16.Northern Ireland and Western Scotland with just the odd spot of

:59:17. > :59:20.rain or indeed drizzle. Temperatures 13 to 19 Celsius, but with more of a

:59:21. > :59:24.breeze tomorrow, it will feel that bit cooler, especially if you're out

:59:25. > :59:28.of the sunshine. Then as we move into Wednesday, we're still being

:59:29. > :59:31.dominated by an area of high pressure. It is moving slightly so

:59:32. > :59:36.we will see more cloud coming across us. Breezy, brighter conditions

:59:37. > :59:39.coming out in the west, but the temperature is certainly going to

:59:40. > :59:45.continue to go down as it will do on Thursday.

:59:46. > :59:49.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme

:59:50. > :59:53.In an exclusive interview with this programme,

:59:54. > :59:56.a former spy who worked for MI5 for eight years has been telling us

:59:57. > :59:58.about his often dangerous job working undercover.

:59:59. > :00:04.The official job title is Mobile Operations Officer,

:00:05. > :00:11.but in reality what this means is hunting down the most dangerous

:00:12. > :00:17.operators in the world who want to destroy the western way of life,

:00:18. > :00:24.And it was my job to find them on the ground, with the rest of the

:00:25. > :00:29.team, and rip apart their lives. So many of you getting involved about

:00:30. > :00:33.that interview. One says, amazing interview, we are grateful

:00:34. > :00:36.individuals like, are out there, who sacrificed their personal lives to

:00:37. > :00:42.ensure our safety. Another, MI5 spy on your programme today is blowing

:00:43. > :00:46.my mind. Thank you for those. We will pause and bring you the news in

:00:47. > :00:51.a moment but first, the new caretaker England manager, Gareth

:00:52. > :00:56.Southgate. ... Very difficult, and we have an opportunity to work with

:00:57. > :01:01.a group of players, they are young, need some guidance. We have to

:01:02. > :01:06.provide stability. I haven't had any chance other than think how we

:01:07. > :01:10.prepare for this week, how we get the best opportunity to get the

:01:11. > :01:15.results we want, and anything beyond that can wait, whenever there is

:01:16. > :01:19.time to breathe. I absolutely understand. How difficult was it, in

:01:20. > :01:26.terms of trying to get the squad together at such short notice? Well,

:01:27. > :01:31.I think Sam and myself had had a meeting two weeks ago, regarding the

:01:32. > :01:35.under 21 squad and the senior squad. The basis of what's gone on over the

:01:36. > :01:42.last couple of years, there's been lots of positives. The squad but did

:01:43. > :01:50.the job in Slovakia did the job very well. We felt, why veer too much

:01:51. > :01:54.from that? We lost a few players over the weekend from that, that

:01:55. > :01:58.there will some need to think of replacements, but we felt that

:01:59. > :02:03.stability was important. We have had so much change, certainly in terms

:02:04. > :02:06.of the age of the squad, the inexperience of the squad, so I

:02:07. > :02:10.think the basis of the squad before, and just one or two other players we

:02:11. > :02:16.felt could add to what we're doing. You call did Marcus Rashford. He got

:02:17. > :02:20.a hat-trick at the under 21s. Do you see him probably now as the senior

:02:21. > :02:23.England player? Or if there is an under 21 tournament next summer,

:02:24. > :02:29.does he come back into the reckoning? How do you think you will

:02:30. > :02:34.evolve? That depends if I am the under 21 manager in the summer! I

:02:35. > :02:40.think he was outstanding for us last month. He's starting for Manchester

:02:41. > :02:45.United. What impressed me most was his mentality towards a whole week.

:02:46. > :02:49.I think you can all see his ability and the effect he's had on games,

:02:50. > :02:53.but his maturing tea around the camp, the way he has settled into

:02:54. > :02:57.the group... He was still the youngest player in the under 21s

:02:58. > :03:03.squad, but he took to that no problems at all. I thought his

:03:04. > :03:07.performance was excellent. So again, it was a discussion we had two weeks

:03:08. > :03:11.ago and I didn't see any reason to change that planned. Jesse Lingard

:03:12. > :03:15.has done well for you at under 21 level. Do you see him coming in

:03:16. > :03:21.because of Adam Lallana's injury or would you have liked to have got him

:03:22. > :03:25.in any way? I think Jesse is a player we have been impressed with

:03:26. > :03:32.over the two years working with him at under 21s. He is now establishing

:03:33. > :03:35.himself in Jose's team, which speaks for itself. In the European

:03:36. > :03:40.Championships we thought he was our best performer. So I think it is an

:03:41. > :03:44.exciting moment to bring him into the squad. If there is a surprising

:03:45. > :03:49.inclusion would it be Glen Johnson, at the age of 32, coming back to the

:03:50. > :03:54.squad for the first time in two years? Yes, I can understand that. I

:03:55. > :03:58.think clearly Kyle Walker and Nathaniel Clyne Werther two right

:03:59. > :04:03.backs last time. We lost Nathaniel What was the Russian now? I think

:04:04. > :04:09.the squad in the last two years has been young, young, young. -- the

:04:10. > :04:12.rationales? I don't think you can keep doing that. I think there are

:04:13. > :04:16.times to have some experience around. I think in the summer we saw

:04:17. > :04:19.we have some really exciting young players, but in key, pressure

:04:20. > :04:24.moments there is a lack of experience, lack of big match

:04:25. > :04:29.experience. At this moment in time, when I'm looking at who might come

:04:30. > :04:33.into that, to bring in a player with 50 plus caps into that squad was

:04:34. > :04:37.something that we thought long and hard about, but we felt was right

:04:38. > :04:42.decision. You have named Wayne Rooney as your captain. Does that

:04:43. > :04:46.mean he starts against Malta and if so, where? I'm not sure why I would

:04:47. > :04:52.ever give the opposition that sort of information. But the decision to

:04:53. > :04:57.make him captain is quite simple. What I felt from what I've seen

:04:58. > :05:01.around St George 's over the two years, what I've gleaned from

:05:02. > :05:05.talking to staff over two years is he is the outstanding leader in that

:05:06. > :05:09.group. Again, a period of change after the summer, and now this

:05:10. > :05:15.month, and the most important thing at that time is leadership. On and

:05:16. > :05:19.off the field. I think Wayne has provided that over the last two

:05:20. > :05:22.years. I think the way he has matured into that role is really

:05:23. > :05:29.impressive. There was no doubt in my mind about keeping him in that

:05:30. > :05:36.position. STUDIO: Gareth Southgate in the caretaker England manager

:05:37. > :05:38.position for now. Now for a new summary and Joanna.

:05:39. > :05:41.The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Philip Hammond, will tell

:05:42. > :05:43.the Conservative Party conference today that he will adopt a different

:05:44. > :05:46.approach to his predecessor, George Osborne, as he seeks to deal

:05:47. > :05:48.with the government's finances in the wake of the vote

:05:49. > :05:52.In a speech to delegates in Birmingham, he'll confirm he's

:05:53. > :05:54.abandoning the target of eliminating the budget deficit by 2020.

:05:55. > :05:59.Instead he will put investment in housing and transport bus.

:06:00. > :06:03.Kim Kardashian West has been held up and robbed at gunpoint

:06:04. > :06:06.in a luxury apartment in Paris, by men dressed as police officers.

:06:07. > :06:08.She wasn't physically harmed, but she's said

:06:09. > :06:12.Her husband - Kanye West - cut short a show in New York

:06:13. > :06:14.when he heard the news, telling his fans he was leaving

:06:15. > :06:19.Colombia's President says he'll continue to work for peace,

:06:20. > :06:21.after voters narrowly rejected a hard-won agreement

:06:22. > :06:23.with FARC rebels to end five decades of conflict.

:06:24. > :06:26.The agreement - signed last week in a high profile ceremony -

:06:27. > :06:29.was rejected in a referendum by a razor-thin margin.

:06:30. > :06:35.More than 13 million people cast their ballots,

:06:36. > :06:40.with the 'no' camp winning by fewer than 60,000 votes.

:06:41. > :06:46.Residents of several Caribbean islands are bracing themselves for

:06:47. > :06:50.the strongest hurricane in a decade expected to hit later today. Haiti

:06:51. > :06:54.is expected to be the worst affected but Jamaica has already been lashed

:06:55. > :06:56.by rain and strong winds, with floodwater blocking roads in the

:06:57. > :07:00.capital, Kingston. A former MI5 agent who risked his

:07:01. > :07:03.life for more than eight years, secretly tracking Islamic extremists

:07:04. > :07:09.in the UK, says he himself became says he himself became a target

:07:10. > :07:11.for an attempted beheading and a plan

:07:12. > :07:13.to kidnap MI5 operatives in Britain. Tom - not his real name, speaking

:07:14. > :07:16.exclusively to this programme, said the public should be reassured

:07:17. > :07:19.that the British security services lead the way when it comes

:07:20. > :07:28.to thwarting terrorists carrying out We do everything we can to stop

:07:29. > :07:32.these people, and it's what we live for, and the people watching this

:07:33. > :07:35.show should be extremely proud of the ones who are still out there,

:07:36. > :07:41.doing this, protecting. Like I say, we are the best in the world at it.

:07:42. > :07:46.Thank you for your tweets about the interview. One says, a brilliant

:07:47. > :07:50.insight into life as a spy. Another says, what a lot of you are saying,

:07:51. > :07:55.people owe so much to this man Tom and his colleagues, protecting the

:07:56. > :08:00.public, thank you. So grateful for men like this, MI5 spy. 365 says

:08:01. > :08:05.thank you to all your hard work. Kate says thank you. Hannah, this

:08:06. > :08:12.spy on your programme has blown my mind. People like Tom do

:08:13. > :08:15.unimaginable work to keep us safe. Edwards says extraordinary

:08:16. > :08:21.interview. From one ex-soldier to another, thank you so much. Another

:08:22. > :08:26.says MI5 should have responsibility to ensure people like Tom have a

:08:27. > :08:30.future after their life working for the surveillance service. And

:08:31. > :08:35.another says in one word, excellent. Thank you. Do keep in touch with us.

:08:36. > :08:38.Karthi's here again now with more sport now on the day that

:08:39. > :08:41.It's the second Women's Sport Week -

:08:42. > :08:44.the aim is to celebrate and showcase women's sport at every level,

:08:45. > :08:45.from the grassroots to the elite level.

:08:46. > :08:48.The overall aim is to get more women and girls

:08:49. > :08:51.Delighted to say I have the Olympic Hockey gold medallists

:08:52. > :08:56.Kate Richardson-Walsh and Sam Quek with me.

:08:57. > :09:04.It has been about six weeks since you have been back from Rio, going

:09:05. > :09:08.round the UK, in schools and sports clubs, what kind of reaction have

:09:09. > :09:13.you had? A fantastic reaction. That is one of the reasons we do what we

:09:14. > :09:17.do, to be able to go out there and inspire the next generation. It is

:09:18. > :09:20.part of our vision as a squad, going out there and handing the medal to

:09:21. > :09:25.the youngster and you see their eyes light up, it's been worth it. With

:09:26. > :09:49.London 2012 what we were trying to do with getting people carrying

:09:50. > :09:53.on and playing having watched the sport. Are you seeing that when you

:09:54. > :09:56.go in and talk to kids, that that might happen? When girls hit teenage

:09:57. > :09:58.years they tend to drop out of sport? Absolutely. 2012 was the

:09:59. > :10:01.starting point for women's hockey. Now we have come home with gold from

:10:02. > :10:03.the Olympics, to go into clubs and schools and hear hundreds of

:10:04. > :10:05.youngsters have signed up hockey clubs across the country, that's why

:10:06. > :10:08.we play. You see Holly with the shuttle. Thousands if not millions

:10:09. > :10:10.were watching. Around 10 million was the viewing figures. Incredible for

:10:11. > :10:13.your sport. Now you're trying to move that on. Team Up is part of the

:10:14. > :10:15.campaign. You want girls to experience team events. I think what

:10:16. > :10:20.we are seeing is people moving towards individual sport? In Britain

:10:21. > :10:26.we have a long history and love of team sport. England hockey together

:10:27. > :10:30.with England netball and England cricket... That is a World Cup in

:10:31. > :10:34.cricket, then the hockey World Cup in 2018 and then the World Cup for

:10:35. > :10:39.England netball. We are targeting 7-13 year old. We want 150,000

:10:40. > :10:43.minimum, young girls, playing these team sports. We know all the

:10:44. > :10:46.benefits you can get from playing team sports and want to give the

:10:47. > :10:51.others that opportunity. The camaraderie of being in that team

:10:52. > :10:54.spirit. Clearly a very emotional experience that was partly because

:10:55. > :10:59.you are doing it with other people? Absolutely. That is a product of

:11:00. > :11:03.what we do day in and day out. A group of 31 of us, we go through so

:11:04. > :11:08.many highs and lows. What you saw there that night was probably just a

:11:09. > :11:11.small snippet of what goes on at Bisham Abbey. A very special

:11:12. > :11:19.environment to be a part of. Just the mention about lots of athletes

:11:20. > :11:24.had their medical records put out to the public. Yours was one of them.

:11:25. > :11:27.You spoke out about the fact that could affect young athletes, can you

:11:28. > :11:32.explain that? Absolutely. I first found out about it on Twitter. To

:11:33. > :11:36.see a headline, saying you had taken a banned substance, I was frustrated

:11:37. > :11:39.because that was not the case at all. Hockey is a clean sport, I am a

:11:40. > :11:43.clean athlete and I wanted to make that transparent. My main concern

:11:44. > :11:54.was if it's going to continue like that, to be

:11:55. > :11:58.tarnished with that brush, a young girl training, busting a gut to be

:11:59. > :12:01.the best she can be, I don't want her to ever think, I won't take the

:12:02. > :12:03.chance of having a puff of my inhaler in case anything like this

:12:04. > :12:06.happens in the future. That was my personal concern that is why I spoke

:12:07. > :12:07.out. Really appreciate you both coming in to talk to. More later.

:12:08. > :12:14.Thank you. How did robbers in Paris get through

:12:15. > :12:17.layers of security to hold up Kim Kardashian at gunpoint and steal

:12:18. > :12:19.millions of pounds worth of her jewellery? She is said to be badly

:12:20. > :12:22.shaken. Her husband, Kanye West

:12:23. > :12:24.left the stage partway through a gig in New York,

:12:25. > :12:27.telling the crowd he had I'm sorry, family emergency,

:12:28. > :12:31.I have to stop the show. Our Correspondent Lucy Williamson

:12:32. > :12:55.joins us from Paris with the latest. What do we know about what happened?

:12:56. > :13:00.Very little concrete detail, but the picture is emerging of quite a

:13:01. > :13:03.terrifying experience. A night of horror according to the French media

:13:04. > :13:09.here. Kim Kardashian was staying in what we believe what a private

:13:10. > :13:14.rented apartment, a sort of luxury apartment hotel complex, in a very

:13:15. > :13:19.well-heeled area of central Paris. On Sunday night several armed men,

:13:20. > :13:22.maybe up to five of them, French newspapers say, burst into the

:13:23. > :13:25.apartment, overpowering the security guard and locking her in the

:13:26. > :13:30.bathroom as they stole several million pounds worth of her

:13:31. > :13:33.jewellery. French police have launched an investigation, as you

:13:34. > :13:37.could imagine. They have to find out not just what happened but who these

:13:38. > :13:43.men were and where they are now. How much jewellery debate managed to get

:13:44. > :13:50.away with, do we know? At least ?6 million was one figure we read in

:13:51. > :13:53.reports coming out here. As I say, there has been very little

:13:54. > :13:56.officially confirmed at the moment. The Paris prosecutor is still

:13:57. > :14:00.looking into it. We may hear something later today. At the moment

:14:01. > :14:05.it is all unconfirmed reports. There is said to be quite a large amount

:14:06. > :14:10.of jewellery. One report talking of a single ring which may be worth up

:14:11. > :14:15.to ?4 million or 4 million euros. Quite significant pieces. Thank you

:14:16. > :14:20.very much. For the moment, Lucy Williamson in Paris.

:14:21. > :14:24.Later, a man who has ambushed a number of celebrities recently,

:14:25. > :14:28.including Kim Kardashian West. Next - could a new, highly accurate

:14:29. > :14:31.test to identify babies with Down's syndrome lead to an increase

:14:32. > :14:33.in terminations of babies At the moment, 90% of people

:14:34. > :14:49.in the UK who know their child will be born with Down's

:14:50. > :14:51.have a termination - but the current test isn't

:14:52. > :14:53.completely accurate and can come It's a risk some women

:14:54. > :14:56.aren't willing to take. A new non-invasive prenatal blood

:14:57. > :15:04.test has a 99% accuracy and no risk of miscarriage -

:15:05. > :15:06.and the government is currently considering whether to

:15:07. > :15:08.roll it out on the NHS. The Miranda and Bridget Jones

:15:09. > :15:11.actress Sally Phillips has a child with down's syndrome and she's made

:15:12. > :15:13.a documentary around the new prenatal test

:15:14. > :15:39.in A World Without Down's Syndrome. And a World Without Down's

:15:40. > :16:31.is on BBC Two on Wednesday at 9pm. People with Down's have an extra

:16:32. > :16:34.copy of chromosome 21, which means they develop differently

:16:35. > :16:36.and have varying levels In the UK, about 750 babies are born

:16:37. > :16:44.with Down's syndrome every year. We can talk now to Nursev Morris

:16:45. > :16:47.and her husband John, who are here with their

:16:48. > :16:51.eight-month-old baby Benjamin, Lucienne Cooper who's

:16:52. > :16:57.here with her six-year-old son Billy, and Karen Taylor

:16:58. > :16:59.who says she would have terminated her pregnancies

:17:00. > :17:06.if they had tested Welcome all of you. Thank you for

:17:07. > :17:10.coming on the programme. Thank you. You had the initial test for Down's

:17:11. > :17:18.on the NHS and then went privately to have the new test, why? Because I

:17:19. > :17:23.wanted an accurate result. I had been told by the screening lady when

:17:24. > :17:27.she called to give us our results that they were high risk, that was

:17:28. > :17:33.one of the options we could go and have the harmony test privately was

:17:34. > :17:36.non-invasive or we could have the invasive test where there was an

:17:37. > :17:42.injection through to the baby, but that carried a risk of miscarriage.

:17:43. > :17:47.Miscarriage. We thought it best to go with the harmony test. What were

:17:48. > :17:55.the results? The results came back to say that it was 99. .9% accurate

:17:56. > :17:59.that baby was going to have Down's Syndrome. And how did you react? It

:18:00. > :18:03.was a big shock for us. It was a big shock. There was a lot to process,

:18:04. > :18:08.but we had already decided from the outset as soon as we got the initial

:18:09. > :18:11.results that we were never going to terminate. We're Christians, we

:18:12. > :18:16.don't believe that we should terminate our baby. So we knew that

:18:17. > :18:21.we would love him anyhow and just have to go with the flow. Why did

:18:22. > :18:24.you go for the second test if you had already made a decision there

:18:25. > :18:32.was no way would you have an abortion? Just so we could know...

:18:33. > :18:35.Peace of mind. So we know what we're dealing with and prepare ourselves.

:18:36. > :18:41.In terms of preparing yourself, what support did you get from the NHS?

:18:42. > :18:45.None. To be frank. None to be frank unfortunately. They must have said

:18:46. > :18:50.something, what did they say? They said, well, we had the results

:18:51. > :18:56.privately so we went back to them to say these are the results, what

:18:57. > :19:00.next? They said we would be having appointments with the consultant but

:19:01. > :19:05.each different consultant we saw, none were experts in down syndrome

:19:06. > :19:08.and they just didn't have the knowledge, every appointment they

:19:09. > :19:12.asked us are we still committed to the pregnancy? They seemed to be

:19:13. > :19:16.pushing abortion more. We were told we don't know what to do with you

:19:17. > :19:20.because most women would just abort. When you say they seemed to be

:19:21. > :19:24.pushing abortion more, what specifically were they saying that

:19:25. > :19:28.led to you think that? Because even though we had made our place clear

:19:29. > :19:32.from the outset that we weren't going to abort and we wanted to go

:19:33. > :19:35.ahead with the pregnancy and just needed help, they kept asking, are

:19:36. > :19:40.you still committed? Are you still committed? Every appointment until

:19:41. > :19:43.we got to 26 weeks and we were told oh, you're too late now anyway.

:19:44. > :19:49.Rightment how did that make you feel, John? Very upsetting. It was

:19:50. > :20:03.just really family and friends that really helped us, yeah. Hello. Hello

:20:04. > :20:06.Mr, how are you? Hello. Thank you for coming on the programme. You

:20:07. > :20:11.were told there is a one in 100 chance that Billy would have Down's

:20:12. > :20:15.and you decided not to have the test, why? The non-invasive test I

:20:16. > :20:21.don't think was around when I was pregnant with Billy, but they

:20:22. > :20:26.offered us amino sem tee sis but because of the risk we decided we

:20:27. > :20:30.wouldn't have it because like them, we knew we weren't going to

:20:31. > :20:35.terminate our pregnancy. Both of our children are IVF. So we carried on

:20:36. > :20:43.with the pregnanciment we had the ordinary scans that you get and

:20:44. > :20:51.nothing was detected until 30 weeks where a blockage in the gastric

:20:52. > :20:59.tract which is common in children with Down's Syndrome. The test came

:21:00. > :21:03.back positive. Billy came at 34 weeks. We got the results about 32

:21:04. > :21:06.weeks and he came at 34 weeks. We had two weeks to process the

:21:07. > :21:13.information. And how do you process it? I have to say, funnily enough I

:21:14. > :21:19.was shocked. I didn't think that we would have a child with Down's

:21:20. > :21:23.Syndrome. I had no experience of children with Down's Syndrome and no

:21:24. > :21:32.experience of children with disability. I was upset, but if only

:21:33. > :21:37.I knew now what I didn't know then, the fact, Billy is just part of our

:21:38. > :21:41.family. He is different. He's, he has this extra com ozone, but I see

:21:42. > :21:45.it as another path of parenting. It is not the path that we thought we

:21:46. > :21:52.were going on, it is a different path, but it is still parenting a

:21:53. > :21:56.child. He has a right to his life. I think he brought an amazing joy to

:21:57. > :22:01.our life. I'm not saying having a child with a disability is very

:22:02. > :22:05.simple, it is complicated. It is trying, but I think that's down to

:22:06. > :22:10.society. The fact that when you are given a diagnosis, a positive

:22:11. > :22:13.diagnosis for Down's Syndrome, they should say the positives. They

:22:14. > :22:17.should tell you that your child, what your child is more likely to be

:22:18. > :22:20.able to do, not the things that he's not able to do. But also they should

:22:21. > :22:23.say there is support out there. People think that they're going to

:22:24. > :22:27.have these children and they are going to be left alone to deal with

:22:28. > :22:30.them and they will be put into institutions before they're 15. Life

:22:31. > :22:34.isn't like that with a child with a disability. I'm lucky to live in the

:22:35. > :22:38.London Borough of Sutton where there is a lot of support which kicked in

:22:39. > :22:43.as soon as he was born to help me come to terms with it, but also to

:22:44. > :22:50.help him reach his full potential. Sure. Karen, hello. Three daughters,

:22:51. > :22:55.22, 15 and 13. You had the Down's test for the young irtwo? Yes, I

:22:56. > :22:58.did. You believe that had the test come back positive, that you would

:22:59. > :23:04.have terminated those pregnancies? It is not quite as simple as that.

:23:05. > :23:08.My daughter Lily is 20 actually and she has profound learning

:23:09. > :23:15.difficulties. She is amazing and I love her with all my heart. But it

:23:16. > :23:21.has been a really hard, hard journey and there was a six-and-a-half year

:23:22. > :23:26.gap between Lily and Poppy. And there is many reasons why I would

:23:27. > :23:35.have had to have considered terminating the pregnancy of Poppy

:23:36. > :23:39.and Daisy if they had special needs. Lily doesn't have Down's, she has

:23:40. > :23:43.the lowest IQ. She was delayed with all the major milestones, but I

:23:44. > :23:48.didn't know because I was a first time mum and she looked perfect,

:23:49. > :23:51.whatever perfect is, and I just adored her, but it was really hard

:23:52. > :23:56.looking after her. She wasn't a happy baby. We didn't get smiles and

:23:57. > :24:03.chuckles and there was no rewards. It was just a really tough, hard,

:24:04. > :24:09.slog. At about 20 months wemp forced, if you like, in

:24:10. > :24:11.inadvertently to go and see a behavioural specialist, wheeled

:24:12. > :24:17.development specialist and it was the worst experience of my life and

:24:18. > :24:21.we were told in the most callus and cruel way that our child was a third

:24:22. > :24:24.behind and would never make up that difference and I couldn't conceive

:24:25. > :24:30.what she was trying to tell me. I knew nothing about the world of

:24:31. > :24:35.special needs. There was no help and I think I made noises when in the

:24:36. > :24:39.end she just didn't know what to do with me because I kept saying, "We

:24:40. > :24:46.can get her extra help with reading. We can get extra help, that's fine.

:24:47. > :24:52.A third behind. That's not that bad. With our help Lily would be

:24:53. > :24:55.brilliant. She" She said Lily is mentally retarded and she will never

:24:56. > :25:01.catch up. That was her words. Yes, she used the words, "Mentally

:25:02. > :25:09.retarded." She didn't know what to do with me because I didn't know

:25:10. > :25:12.what learning difficulties meant. Extra speech and language therapy

:25:13. > :25:17.and we will get a tutor and beat it, but we weren't able to beat it. And

:25:18. > :25:23.it is very expensive. We spent a lot of money that we didn't have on Lily

:25:24. > :25:26.trying to make her better until finally acceptance sank in. Possibly

:25:27. > :25:32.it was more difficult because I didn't have an exact diagnosis and I

:25:33. > :25:35.didn't know why. One of the questions that Sally Phillips raises

:25:36. > :25:38.in the documentary which will be shown on Wednesday night is with

:25:39. > :25:40.this new highly accurate non-invasive test, the one you had

:25:41. > :25:46.privately, the Government considering at the moment whether it

:25:47. > :25:49.roll it out across the NHS, will down syndrome become extinct and she

:25:50. > :25:54.uses the word extinct. Is that a possibility and if it is, what do

:25:55. > :25:59.you think of that? I think it is a real possibility actually. I think

:26:00. > :26:02.the thing that comes out with Down's Syndrome is that medical

:26:03. > :26:09.professionals are very negative about it. I mean, using words like

:26:10. > :26:14.mentally retarded is used with children with Down's Syndrome and

:26:15. > :26:17.new parents are given very negative ideas about children with Down's

:26:18. > :26:21.Syndrome because the medical profession don't seem to see our

:26:22. > :26:25.children. It is very medicalised. They may have health problems. They

:26:26. > :26:29.may, things that they may not do, but on the other side, they may

:26:30. > :26:34.become very successful within their family. Sure. It is interesting you

:26:35. > :26:40.think Down's Syndrome may become extinct. What do you two think? You

:26:41. > :26:44.both had tests and you knew what was coming and you continued with the

:26:45. > :26:47.pregnancy so maybe it won't be, what do you think? I'd like to hope that

:26:48. > :26:52.wouldn't be the case and we're supporters of the test because it

:26:53. > :26:58.gave us the opportunity personally and we would have it again and we're

:26:59. > :27:03.pushing to have it again. I'm pregnant again. Congratulations. I'm

:27:04. > :27:07.trying to get it on the NHS and we're having to push which is crazy

:27:08. > :27:13.after we have had the diagnosis with Benjamin. But we are supporters of

:27:14. > :27:17.it, but knowing how the society is and how people think about children

:27:18. > :27:22.with Down's Syndrome and because the understanding is not there within

:27:23. > :27:25.the NHS, let alone with us, when we're given the diagnosis, we are

:27:26. > :27:28.looking to them to give us the answers and yet we're told things as

:27:29. > :27:32.well like, "Oh, what it means is he'll never be Prime Minister, but

:27:33. > :27:36.it is all right because Down's kids are good with music." That's the

:27:37. > :27:44.explanation we received from the NHS. So they need to be clued up. Do

:27:45. > :27:49.you support women who make their own decision... Of course. Women and

:27:50. > :27:53.their partners to have a termination if they want to for whatever the

:27:54. > :27:59.reasons are? The key point is informed choice. What we're arguing

:28:00. > :28:02.is that there is the side, the negative side of Down's Syndrome has

:28:03. > :28:06.been spoken about readily, but there is nobody supporting the positive

:28:07. > :28:11.side. When the ethical committee that decided on bringing out this

:28:12. > :28:16.non-invasive test, nobody with Down's Syndrome was consulted. No

:28:17. > :28:23.parents with children with downs sin trom was consulted so it is not an

:28:24. > :28:27.informed choice. 92% of people who get a positive diagnosis, goes for a

:28:28. > :28:31.termination, there is going to be a risk that our children will become

:28:32. > :28:34.extinct, I think. Thank you very much all of you. Thank you for

:28:35. > :28:35.coming on the programme. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you very

:28:36. > :28:41.much. Still to come, new England boss

:28:42. > :28:44.Gareth Southgate has been speaking We'll be getting the latest

:28:45. > :28:48.from our reporter Katie Gornall A man who has recently assaulted

:28:49. > :28:57.several female celebrities in what he claims are "pranks" gives

:28:58. > :28:59.an exclusive interview The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,

:29:00. > :29:12.will say today that a new, more pragmatic economic plan

:29:13. > :29:14.is required to tackle the "new circumstances" brought

:29:15. > :29:16.about by the Brexit vote. In his address to the Conservative

:29:17. > :29:18.Party conference in Birmingham, he'll confirm that he's abandoning

:29:19. > :29:20.George Osborne's timetable of But he'll also make clear that it

:29:21. > :29:28.doesn't mean an end to austerity. The reality TV star

:29:29. > :29:38.Kim Kardashian West has been robbed at gunpoint of jewellery worth

:29:39. > :29:41.more than ?8 millions. It happened in an

:29:42. > :29:42.apartment in Paris. The robbers were dressed

:29:43. > :29:44.as police officers. Kardashian was said

:29:45. > :29:46.to be "badly shaken". Her husband - Kanye West -

:29:47. > :29:49.cut short a show in New York when he heard the news,

:29:50. > :29:52.telling his fans he was leaving The operator of the Southern Rail

:29:53. > :29:55.network has set a deadline for strike negotiations

:29:56. > :29:57.with the RMT. Govia Thameslink Railway has given

:29:58. > :29:59.the union until Thursday to accept an offer aimed at averting strikes,

:30:00. > :30:02.or it will terminate conductors' contracts and press ahead

:30:03. > :30:04.with changes to their role. Conductors have been offered a lump

:30:05. > :30:08.sum of ?2,000 in a bid to bring That is a summary of the latest

:30:09. > :30:24.news. Join me again at 11. Conservationists say

:30:25. > :30:26.a United Nations agreement to close all domestic ivory markets will be

:30:27. > :30:38.a significant step That have seen the number of

:30:39. > :30:42.elephants shrink by a third. Illegal domestic sales have continued in

:30:43. > :30:49.many countries, despite a ban on international which has been in

:30:50. > :30:52.place about 30 years. Critics say the new UN resolution has no legal

:30:53. > :31:17.standing. Here is some background to the ivory trade dispute.

:31:18. > :31:19.We have been flying along this flood plain that divides

:31:20. > :31:25.All the way along here, we have been seeing carcasses of elephants,

:31:26. > :31:27.some four months old, some less than a week old.

:31:28. > :31:59.Poaching and trafficing in wildlife is now a branch of

:32:00. > :32:05.The fight against it will be won by alliances

:32:06. > :33:03.If this current rate continues, within nine years, Africa could be

:33:04. > :33:08.left with half of the current estimate of African elephants.

:33:09. > :33:10.Materialistic greed cannot be allowed to win against our moral

:33:11. > :33:35.duty to protect threatened species and vulnerable communities.

:33:36. > :33:48.Highly-trained dogs, which abseil or parachute from helicopters,

:33:49. > :33:53.have begun to form part of the armoury for South Africa's

:33:54. > :35:24.Joining us from Birmingham is Philip Mansbridge.

:35:25. > :35:26.Philip is the UK Director of the International Fund

:35:27. > :35:36.Thank you for talking to us a second time within a week. This UN

:35:37. > :35:42.resolution to close all domestic ivory markets, is it... How can you

:35:43. > :35:47.enforce that? This one will be difficult. What we were hoping for

:35:48. > :35:52.at the conference in Johannesburg was separate resolutions that really

:35:53. > :35:56.legally bound countries to close their domestic markets. What we

:35:57. > :35:59.ended up with with something good, a step in the right direction but

:36:00. > :36:03.watered down. It says you need to close domestic ivory markets, if you

:36:04. > :36:08.can prove they are linked to increased poaching. It will be

:36:09. > :36:12.massively difficult to enforce, because ultimately where ever you

:36:13. > :36:16.have a parallel market, and that's what we would call it, where there

:36:17. > :36:20.is legal and illegal trading on the same platforms, it is really hard.

:36:21. > :36:28.It is hard for the consumer. It sends the wrong message, you don't

:36:29. > :36:39.know what is legally or illegally sourced ivory. Where does the demand

:36:40. > :36:42.come from? For many it is a surprise there are still demand, but there

:36:43. > :36:49.is, mainly in Asia and Vietnam. It is seen as a marking of status, for

:36:50. > :36:52.jewellery or ornaments, and is something associated with luxury and

:36:53. > :36:56.wealth in these countries still. We are seeing a change in attitudes.

:36:57. > :36:59.We're working on the ground in places like China to change

:37:00. > :37:04.behaviour. What was interesting, at the conference in Johannesburg, one

:37:05. > :37:08.of the key advocates of the ban was China. It now seems so China is

:37:09. > :37:14.changing its tune and wanting to come on board and end this horrid,

:37:15. > :37:19.barbaric trade. You did it successfully, mostly with further.

:37:20. > :37:23.Do you think you can achieve the same with ivory? I do, I really do,

:37:24. > :37:27.but it will take international commitment. We want tougher

:37:28. > :37:32.resolutions, not these watered-down resolution. We have to take action.

:37:33. > :37:38.One elephant every 15 minutes is being killed for their ivory in

:37:39. > :37:44.Africa alone. The recent survey showed in the last seven years, 30%

:37:45. > :37:48.of the elephant population has been lost. We don't really have time to

:37:49. > :37:53.mess around with resolutions, we have to go in and go in tough, but

:37:54. > :37:57.it need uniform, co-ordinated approach. Thank you very much,

:37:58. > :38:02.Philip, for coming on the programme again.

:38:03. > :38:03.England's caretaker football manager, Gareth Southgate,

:38:04. > :38:05.says he hasn't had a chance to consider whether he'd

:38:06. > :38:09.He's been speaking publicly for the first time since

:38:10. > :38:12.the departure of Sam Allardyce last week, after a newspaper

:38:13. > :38:23.Well, all I can say is when I came in here Tuesday morning, I didn't

:38:24. > :38:27.expect to be in charge of the team at six o'clock at night. Things

:38:28. > :38:35.happened so quickly. The situation developed so quickly. But, I think,

:38:36. > :38:41.when you're in football, you get used to that sort of speed of the

:38:42. > :38:46.way things happen. And it was a moment to step up and put myself

:38:47. > :38:52.forward as the leader of this group. I think when I was looking at how

:38:53. > :38:53.this might play out for the team, I was in the best position to take

:38:54. > :38:55.them forward for these matches. Let's talk to our reporter

:38:56. > :39:07.Katie Gornall who's in Burton What else did he have to say?

:39:08. > :39:17.I think we got a sense from Gareth Southgate that these difficult

:39:18. > :39:22.circumstances, in which he took over, after Sam Allardyce left after

:39:23. > :39:27.the controversial remarks he made undercover reporters from the Daily

:39:28. > :39:30.Telegraph. Gareth Southgate gave a press conference today, in a seat

:39:31. > :39:34.barely warmed by his predecessor. He came across very well, he seemed

:39:35. > :39:38.confident and measured. He said it has been a difficult weekend he

:39:39. > :39:43.never expected to be had. He used the word leadership a lot when he

:39:44. > :39:45.was speaking today. He added he had exchanged messages with Sam

:39:46. > :39:49.Allardyce, that he felt it was important to show he was not a man

:39:50. > :39:57.waiting in the wings for his opportunity, that this was a

:39:58. > :40:00.situation he didn't expect to be in. He was asked about the controversy

:40:01. > :40:02.of recent weeks as well, the fact that football's reputation has been

:40:03. > :40:06.battered and if that were very low ebb. He said he is involved in a

:40:07. > :40:09.sport he loves, in an industry at times he doesn't like. He didn't

:40:10. > :40:13.elaborate on that but went on to talk about the role he has coming up

:40:14. > :40:17.and said it was a huge honour for him to step into the England

:40:18. > :40:20.manager's job for himself, for his family. He doesn't feel it is a role

:40:21. > :40:24.that has been diminished in any way by recent events. He said he was

:40:25. > :40:31.looking forward to the challenge. He has four games to lay claim to the

:40:32. > :40:34.job on a permanent basis, if that's what he wants, starting with the

:40:35. > :40:40.game against Malta at the weekend. What did he say about the squad and

:40:41. > :40:45.the people he's picked and selected? Talking about the squad, we have had

:40:46. > :40:50.big changes off the pitch. A lot of continuity on it. Gareth Southgate's

:40:51. > :40:54.squad, keeping Wayne Rooney as captain. Full of praise for Wayne

:40:55. > :40:58.Rooney and today's press conference. He said he is a leader and this is

:40:59. > :41:02.what the team needs at the moment, this kind of leadership to steer

:41:03. > :41:06.them through. He has brought in Marcus Rashford from Manchester

:41:07. > :41:12.United and Jesse Lingard, two youngsters he knows well from his

:41:13. > :41:17.under 21 steam. Changes brought about by injuries as well to Harry

:41:18. > :41:23.Kane, Adam Lallana and Nathaniel Clyne. He has brought in a bit of a

:41:24. > :41:27.surprise defender, in Glen Johnson, the Stoke City defender. 32 years

:41:28. > :41:31.old, it's been awhile since he turned out for England. He spoke of

:41:32. > :41:34.Johnson's experience. I think that was the key message from Gareth

:41:35. > :41:38.Southgate today, when he was talking about himself and talking about his

:41:39. > :41:41.team. He acknowledges these are difficult times for England but

:41:42. > :41:43.feels he needs people with experience and leadership to step up

:41:44. > :41:47.to this challenge. Thank you Katie. Next this morning -

:41:48. > :41:49.in an exclusive interview - a man who's recently ambushed

:41:50. > :41:53.several female celebrities in what he claims are "pranks",

:41:54. > :41:57.but which many consider assault tells this programme he's doing

:41:58. > :41:59.it to try and protest In the last few weeks Vitalii Sediuk

:42:00. > :42:03.has attacked the model Gigi Hadid and Kim Kardashian West -

:42:04. > :42:05.but his stunts go Vitalli Sediuk originally

:42:06. > :42:18.from Ukraine and calls himself But he is in the spotlight more

:42:19. > :42:25.for how he treats celebrities, He explains the reasons

:42:26. > :42:54.behind his behaviour on social media and says he does things to highlight

:42:55. > :42:57.what he sees as hypocrisy. For example, on his recent antics,

:42:58. > :43:00.he says he wanted to draw attention to Kim Kardashian West's bottom

:43:01. > :43:03.because he claims she has implants. He says he tried to lift the model

:43:04. > :43:08.Gigi Hadid Milan because he thinks she has no merit in the fashion

:43:09. > :43:11.industry and he says he tackled American Vogue editor Anna Winter

:43:12. > :43:14.because she has turned His stunts are routinely called

:43:15. > :43:18.pranks but others say his behaviour is a form of assault

:43:19. > :43:22.and that he is a misogynist. It is suggested the reason he gets

:43:23. > :43:24.away with his behaviour is because it targets those

:43:25. > :43:27.who don't want the hassle of pressing charges,

:43:28. > :43:29.except he has been banned. A court in the US felt guilty

:43:30. > :43:32.of assault on the act of Brad Pitt and he was barred from every

:43:33. > :43:35.red-carpet event in LA and forced So, his reasons for ambushing

:43:36. > :43:41.celebrities still remain unclear, especially to the many who say

:43:42. > :43:57.they can't see the funny side He explained what he is trying to

:43:58. > :44:03.achieve and he accosts these celebrities. Cost might not be the

:44:04. > :44:08.best word, but I am doing this for attention. The bigger the attention

:44:09. > :44:14.I receive, the bigger platform I get to express my opinion on certain

:44:15. > :44:18.subjects. I basically said I was protesting against Instagram cute

:44:19. > :44:27.girls who have nothing to do with high-fashion, like Gigi. I try to be

:44:28. > :44:30.entertaining, but at the same time might have this platform and I can

:44:31. > :44:38.use it in many different ways. You don't like the word accost but some

:44:39. > :44:42.call it assault. Gigi said she felt she was in danger when you picked

:44:43. > :44:48.her up and stopped her being able to move. I don't think... I would be

:44:49. > :44:55.surprised as well as someone lifted me up from behind, but we don't call

:44:56. > :44:58.it assault what Ellen and does in the United States, when someone

:44:59. > :45:04.comes from behind and scares the celebrity guest. Ellen is a

:45:05. > :45:08.celebrity and it's a nice studios on one complains. What I do is

:45:09. > :45:13.basically the same. Not jumping and scaring someone... I basically made

:45:14. > :45:17.this contact with the body because I know it will get press attention,

:45:18. > :45:24.because I'm a reporter, I know how this industry works... If you go on

:45:25. > :45:27.Ellen's show, you know to expect something like that. By consenting

:45:28. > :45:31.to go on the programme, you are consenting to having a laugh, japes

:45:32. > :45:34.and all the rest of it. If someone is going about their daily business

:45:35. > :45:39.and suddenly from behind a stranger comes up and lifts them up, that's

:45:40. > :45:48.alarming, that is invading their body space, if not worse.

:45:49. > :45:57.My style of entertainment and my kind of exclusive. I would feel bad

:45:58. > :46:04.if I had bad intention. My intention is never to offend someone. I will

:46:05. > :46:15.never cross the line like punching someone, no, but I know that if I

:46:16. > :46:21.did something like that trying to kiss her famous Derry air, it will

:46:22. > :46:26.get me attention. The news that Kim has been tar robbed at gun point.

:46:27. > :46:43.Would you still target her? No. No. No, absolutely. I'm not obsessed

:46:44. > :46:53.with Kim. Dealing with the Kardashins is not easy. They

:46:54. > :46:59.control. I consider them American Mafia. I believe Kim will do

:47:00. > :47:10.everything possible to let me down or to have my visa revoked and

:47:11. > :47:14.passport. What has it got to do with you if she has alleged bottom

:47:15. > :47:21.implants or not? Well, it is her body, but she is a public person. I

:47:22. > :47:27.saw it in 12-year-old girls follow her on Instagram. She is like a role

:47:28. > :47:33.model. She is not a role model. When you have a big butt, big boobs, you

:47:34. > :47:41.can be famous and especially when you post it on Instagram she was

:47:42. > :47:46.scared of my pranks she posted another nude selfie. It is

:47:47. > :47:50.inappropriate and when she is having 60 million followers on Instagram

:47:51. > :47:57.and half are children, it is inappropriate. They popularise using

:47:58. > :48:01.unnatural I don't know how you call it, cosmetics or something to

:48:02. > :48:05.enhance their beauty and I believe it is totally inappropriate. That's

:48:06. > :48:11.why I did that. Over the years you have tried to kiss Will Smith and

:48:12. > :48:17.you hit Brad Pitt. I didn't hit Brad Pitt. I never hit anyone. That was a

:48:18. > :48:26.complete lie. I tried to hug him around his face as I did with

:48:27. > :48:31.Leonardo DiCaprio. I never hit him. That's why I had troubles with your

:48:32. > :48:35.system because I was arrested for allegedly hitting him in the face

:48:36. > :48:41.and breaking his glasses even though it was my sunglasses that were

:48:42. > :48:45.broken. But what happened, it happened, but even though I had a

:48:46. > :48:52.lot of troubles after Brad Pitt, I don't regret.

:48:53. > :48:56.You have been called a psycho, a pervert, disgusting, some people

:48:57. > :49:06.have said... And paedophile. And a paedophile. I mean, you're smiling

:49:07. > :49:11.at that. I had beard and when I lived, people thought maybe I'm

:49:12. > :49:21.older. I'm just 27 years old! Some thought it was sexual assault as

:49:22. > :49:26.well. Sexual assault, sexual assault is basically rape. Did I rape

:49:27. > :49:33.someone? No. No sexual assault, there is a wide spectrum of sexual

:49:34. > :49:42.assault. I don't, I disagree, it is not sexual assault. What I did to

:49:43. > :49:48.Kim, she puts her famous bottom and wears this tiny half naked dresses,

:49:49. > :49:54.and what I did, it is not that I'm really interested. I'm not

:49:55. > :49:59.interested in that woman, but she is a big media tabloid personality. But

:50:00. > :50:03.I'm not interested in her as a woman, I'm just interested in her as

:50:04. > :50:06.a, you know, as a media personality. So it was just a gesture, you know,

:50:07. > :50:11.to kiss her, but it doesn't mean that I want to kiss her or I'm

:50:12. > :50:17.obsessed with her or I'm obsessed with Bradley Cooper or any other

:50:18. > :50:21.celebrity. Thank you for your comments on

:50:22. > :50:24.Down's Syndrome. A new test is on the horizon. The Government are

:50:25. > :50:28.deciding whether to roll it out across the NHS which is non-invasive

:50:29. > :50:35.and highly accurate and some people raised concerns that it may lead to

:50:36. > :50:38.more terminations. Jan says I have a beautiful 27-year-old Down's

:50:39. > :50:41.daughter. We wouldn't be it same without herment she enriches our

:50:42. > :50:45.lives. However, the support in our area is limited. Living in the UK

:50:46. > :50:50.with a disability is not easy. John says I have a brother ask Down's and

:50:51. > :50:54.the pro Down's people on your show is no idea. He is in his 30s now and

:50:55. > :50:59.he has worn all of us down to the bone. Ill tempered and has many

:51:00. > :51:04.issues. It is a shame you didn't interview people with adults with

:51:05. > :51:08.Down's. Still living at home and still total adependant and very,

:51:09. > :51:15.very hard work. This mum says, "I am the mum of a wonderful and severely

:51:16. > :51:20.brain damaged son. I understand and agree with your guests, the NHS does

:51:21. > :51:24.nothing for parents with disabled children. I tried to campaign

:51:25. > :51:26.locally to bring this to everyone's attention." Thank you for those.

:51:27. > :51:34.Keep them coming in. More than 200,000 people have

:51:35. > :51:37.been killed in 52 years That's 55 times more than those

:51:38. > :51:48.killed by the Troubles in Northern Ireland but now voters

:51:49. > :51:52.in the Latin American country have rejected a landmark

:51:53. > :51:54.peace deal with the FARC or Revolutionary Armed

:51:55. > :52:08.Forces of Colombia. In a speech after that result was

:52:09. > :52:14.announced, the president vowed to continue with his peace efforts.

:52:15. > :52:17.I uphold my ability and responsibility to maintain public

:52:18. > :52:22.order and to continue to seek and negotiate for peace. The existing by

:52:23. > :52:23.lateral ceasefire and end of hostilities is in effect and will

:52:24. > :52:30.continue to be in effect. Let's find out what this deal means

:52:31. > :52:33.to the people of Colombia and why Hernando Alvarez is the regional

:52:34. > :52:44.editor for BBC Americas Why did the public reject it? That's

:52:45. > :52:48.the question many people are asking themselves today. The polls show a

:52:49. > :52:53.come portable win for the Yes vote. Over 60%. Everybody was pretty

:52:54. > :52:57.relaxed that the vote was going to be yes. It is a big surprise. I

:52:58. > :53:02.think the three main reasons that we can look at it after a few hours of

:53:03. > :53:08.the vote and the final results. One is the low turn-out. The lowest

:53:09. > :53:13.turn-out in two decades. Only 38% of the people bothered to go and vote.

:53:14. > :53:21.And then there are two particular reasons of the peace process. None

:53:22. > :53:25.of the FARC leaders were going to receive prison sentences if they

:53:26. > :53:28.confessed their crimes. There was an agreement that they would not go to

:53:29. > :53:33.prison, they would have limited freedom in a remote area and they

:53:34. > :53:38.will repay the victims through community work or building schools

:53:39. > :53:43.and things like that. And people thought that was unfair? Yes. The

:53:44. > :53:46.other one was that FARC was guaranteed ten seats in Congress,

:53:47. > :53:51.five in each of the chambers, that we have in our Congress. Even if

:53:52. > :54:03.they didn't get enough votes for the two terms. Gosh. People were saying

:54:04. > :54:06.it is too generous, too much. And the Columbian people said we are not

:54:07. > :54:11.happy. This doesn't mean that Columbia is going back to war

:54:12. > :54:15.straightaway. We don't have a military crisis, we have a political

:54:16. > :54:24.crisis. The person that we have just listened to, he said ceasefire

:54:25. > :54:27.remains in place. FARC say like we are committed to peace. And the

:54:28. > :54:33.third figure, the most important one at the moment is the former

:54:34. > :54:39.president of Columbia, someone very popular in Columbia, is seen as the

:54:40. > :54:43.winner of this vote. He completely changed his story last night when he

:54:44. > :54:49.spoke after the vote. Before he was referring to FARC in a derogtive

:54:50. > :54:54.way, describing it as a bunch of bandits and now he says, "We need to

:54:55. > :54:59.keep protecting you and you help us keep the harmony." They want to

:55:00. > :55:02.correct the things that many people didn't believe in the peace

:55:03. > :55:04.agreements. So their efforts carry on. Thank you very much for coming

:55:05. > :55:07.on the programme. Thank you. You came out here and you gave

:55:08. > :55:16.it your absolute all. So I'll do it because this is what

:55:17. > :55:28.this process is and this is what the show is,

:55:29. > :55:31.but I'm very scared to hurt myself so that's just the honest

:55:32. > :55:32.truth. We certainly don't want you to

:55:33. > :55:36.yourself. Anastasia performed whilst

:55:37. > :55:38.injured on Saturday night. We saw earlier she was worried

:55:39. > :55:40.about being A decision has since been made that

:55:41. > :55:47.Anastasia and Brendan cannot perform In this situation under the rules

:55:48. > :55:52.of Strictly Come Dancing, this The couple with the fewest number

:55:53. > :56:04.of viewer votes will sadly be leaving Strictly Come Dancing over

:56:05. > :56:10.to you, Tess. I can reveal that the couple

:56:11. > :56:14.with the fewest viewer votes and therefore out of

:56:15. > :56:19.the competition is... Chi Chi Izundu can bring us

:56:20. > :56:38.up-to-date with dance off drama So it was dramatic and some people

:56:39. > :56:43.didn't think it was fair, but just explain what was going on? Anastasia

:56:44. > :56:49.injured herself during the rehearsal on the Friday and against doctors

:56:50. > :56:55.orders still went on to perform on the Saturday and an altered routine.

:56:56. > :57:01.Her partner had to rechoreograph half of the routine. It aggravated

:57:02. > :57:06.her injury which she said in a statement actually that she ripped

:57:07. > :57:10.the scar tissue around where she had a double mastectomy in the past so

:57:11. > :57:15.that's why she couldn't do the dance off. I think she refused to do it

:57:16. > :57:20.under doctor's orders and Melvin was kicked off. One or two people said

:57:21. > :57:24.because she couldn't take part in the dance off then she should have

:57:25. > :57:29.forfeited her place and should have gone? Twitter and other social media

:57:30. > :57:32.platforms were not happy with the decision not to allow her to take

:57:33. > :57:36.part in the dance off. The Strictly rules say if someone can't take part

:57:37. > :57:40.due to injury, the results are whoever has got the lowest number of

:57:41. > :57:45.the public votes and that's what they went with. She is really upset

:57:46. > :57:48.that she couldn't take part. Melvin seems to be happy that he is off the

:57:49. > :57:51.show in the sense that he didn't have to do the dance off and

:57:52. > :57:55.therefore, didn't have to make her injury worse, I think, is the real

:57:56. > :58:00.issue really. Fair enough. He is a gentleman. Thank you.

:58:01. > :58:05.Thank you for your messages about our interview with a former MI5

:58:06. > :58:10.surveillance officer. He had to do it anonymously, of course, because

:58:11. > :58:14.we wouldn't tell you his name or showed you what he looked like.

:58:15. > :58:18.Julia says, "Tom is a real life her owe. Thank you very much for what

:58:19. > :58:23.you have sacrificed to keep us all safe." The interrue is on our

:58:24. > :58:25.programme page. Have a good day. Thank you for

:58:26. > :58:28.watching. JOHNNY CASH: # You can run on for