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:00:00. > :00:00.could surge up to 11 feet and winds reach 120 mph if Matthew has its

:00:00. > :00:07.way. People have been boarding up properties, trying to nail down what

:00:08. > :00:11.they can. And stocking up on essentials. The picture of what

:00:12. > :00:16.Matthew could do couldn't be clearer. If you need to evacuate and

:00:17. > :00:21.you haven't - evacuate. This storm will kill you. Time is running out,

:00:22. > :00:32.we don't have that much time left. These pictures showed the Harry Kane

:00:33. > :00:35.as -- show Harry Kane Matthew. There are fears Matthew Cutler loop back

:00:36. > :00:43.towards Florida via the Bahamas again. -- Matthew could loop. The

:00:44. > :00:48.extent of the devastation it caused in Haiti is just emerging. The death

:00:49. > :00:51.toll continues to rise. The relief effort hampered with raging

:00:52. > :00:58.floodwaters that cut off the south of the island. In this coastal town,

:00:59. > :01:04.80% of the buildings have been destroyed.

:01:05. > :01:07.People who had very little to begin with now left with nothing.

:01:08. > :01:16.Even the wealth of the Bahamas, Haiti's rich neighbour, could not

:01:17. > :01:19.shelter it from Matthew. And now Florida waits with bated breath for

:01:20. > :01:22.what it will wake up to, knowing that Matthew respects nothing in its

:01:23. > :01:23.path. Matt Taylor from BBC Weather

:01:24. > :01:32.is here to explain. Tell us exactly where it has been

:01:33. > :01:37.and where it is right now? This is an incredible storm, it has held its

:01:38. > :01:40.strength. The long time. It is flying across the Caribbean, you can

:01:41. > :01:45.see from the satellite it has been working over the Bahamas overnight.

:01:46. > :01:48.Freeport got hit by the are you of the store where the strongest winds

:01:49. > :01:54.well. It was category four, it has weakened a little bit to category

:01:55. > :01:59.three, the wind took it to 120 mph. You can see the radar chart, this

:02:00. > :02:02.shows where the rainfall has been. You can see the bands of rain

:02:03. > :02:08.spoiling around the eye, the centre bit where there is nothing. That is

:02:09. > :02:13.where the wind is lightest. It is around bad weather strongest winds.

:02:14. > :02:17.Crucially, this is offshore. It is around 20 or 30 miles offshore. The

:02:18. > :02:30.winds are the strongest and fairly tightly packed around that. We are

:02:31. > :02:33.starting to see winds along the central Florida coast touch around

:02:34. > :02:35.80 mph at the moment. There is a suggestion it might not make

:02:36. > :02:38.landfall in the US. What is the latest on that? There is potential

:02:39. > :02:40.on that, but the winds could still be damaging. The greatest concern in

:02:41. > :02:43.terms of flooding, both flooding from the sea rising, this could see

:02:44. > :02:49.waves three metres above where they normally are. There has been reports

:02:50. > :02:57.from Bhoys in the ocean where we can see waves very high. It is a

:02:58. > :03:03.low-lying area, highly populated along the Florida- Georgia coast. To

:03:04. > :03:07.go with that, half a year's worth of rainfall falling in 24 hours. It is

:03:08. > :03:17.incredible, it is a monster. Where is it going? There are suggestions

:03:18. > :03:21.that it might loop back. It will probably hug the coast and stay

:03:22. > :03:25.offshore. The flood risk extends into Georgia on Saturday. Where Rick

:03:26. > :03:30.goes is uncertain, there is potential it could loop back. But

:03:31. > :03:35.there is also potential it could go out into the Atlantic, we will keep

:03:36. > :03:40.an eye on that in the next few days. Thank you for keeping an eye on

:03:41. > :03:45.that. We will be live in Miami and also just north of there with two

:03:46. > :03:48.respondents on the ground with the latest from there.

:03:49. > :03:50.Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:03:51. > :03:56.The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has started reshuffling his cabinet,

:03:57. > :03:58.but critics have suggested he's already failed in his promise

:03:59. > :04:01.to unite the parliamentary party. One of Mr Corbyn's closest allies,

:04:02. > :04:04.Diane Abbott, has been promoted to Shadow Home Secretary -

:04:05. > :04:05.a position she says she's honoured to have.

:04:06. > :04:09.And the former civil liberties campaigner Shami Chakrabarti,

:04:10. > :04:16.who was recently made a Labour peer after her review into anti-Semitism

:04:17. > :04:23.in the party, joins the top team as Shadow Attorney General.

:04:24. > :04:28.We will have more on that story in just a moment.

:04:29. > :04:30.Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told reporters he was punched

:04:31. > :04:33.by a colleague after a meeting of his party's MEPs.

:04:34. > :04:34.The Ukip leadership hopeful is recovering

:04:35. > :04:36.in hospital after he collapsed at the European

:04:37. > :04:40.He told the Daily Mail that his colleague Mike Hookem came

:04:41. > :04:44.A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied he had been involved in a fight.

:04:45. > :04:47.The party says it's investigating the incident, as our Political

:04:48. > :04:57.The damage done to his party may take much longer to repair.

:04:58. > :04:59.The altercation here in the European Parliament

:05:00. > :05:01.is understood to have taken place following a heated

:05:02. > :05:06.Steven Woolfe's team announced online he had been

:05:07. > :05:12.Nigel Farage said an altercation took place after the gathering

:05:13. > :05:17.of MEPs, where it is understood some of Stephen Woolfe's colleagues

:05:18. > :05:19.were angry he'd thought about joining the Conservatives

:05:20. > :05:23.despite wanting to be Ukip's next leader.

:05:24. > :05:26.In the UK we are always being told...

:05:27. > :05:36.Ukip said it did not deny reports that their defence spokesman

:05:37. > :05:38.Mike Hookem was the MEP that left the room with Mr Woolfe.

:05:39. > :05:41.A spokesman for Mike Hookem denied being involved in a physical fight.

:05:42. > :05:44.I have spoken with our party leader, and we've agreed there

:05:45. > :05:46.will be an investigation into the events of this morning.

:05:47. > :05:48.But understandably today, as Nigel has already outlined,

:05:49. > :05:51.our thoughts are with Stephen and his health, the priority

:05:52. > :05:52.is making sure that Stephen recovers quickly.

:05:53. > :05:55.This comes just days after Diane James said she would not

:05:56. > :05:58.take up her role as Ukip Leader, plunging the party into a fresh

:05:59. > :06:05.This latest incident has led to the top donor of a party

:06:06. > :06:09.threatening to remove his support, saying Ukip was at breaking point

:06:10. > :06:11.and blaming high-profile figures who had joined

:06:12. > :06:16.Stephen Woolfe says he is back to his smiling self.

:06:17. > :06:26.It might be much longer before joy returns to his party.

:06:27. > :06:31.Let's return now to the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle of

:06:32. > :06:33.his Cabinet. Our Political Correspondent Alan

:06:34. > :06:41.Soady joins us from Westminster. Good morning, Alan. When Jeremy

:06:42. > :06:45.Corbyn was re-elected as leader, you promised he would reunite the Labour

:06:46. > :06:49.Party. But judging by some of the reaction to this reshuffle so far,

:06:50. > :06:53.that will not be easy to accomplish? That's right. The real test of this

:06:54. > :06:57.reshuffle was always going to be to what extent he is offering out the

:06:58. > :07:00.olive branch. He talked in his conference speech at the Labour

:07:01. > :07:05.Party conference last week about coming together, reunifying the

:07:06. > :07:10.party. Some of his internal critics will be a little concerned that some

:07:11. > :07:13.of his closest allies have been rewarded for their loyalty,

:07:14. > :07:17.particularly Diane Abbott getting a big promotion the Shadow Home

:07:18. > :07:20.Secretary. Shami Chakrabarti, the performer director of Liberty, who

:07:21. > :07:25.has only just been given a peerage from Labour, she already becomes the

:07:26. > :07:28.shadow Attorney General. On the other hand, there are still more

:07:29. > :07:34.appointment is to be made today. And there have been a couple of olive

:07:35. > :07:37.branches at least. For example, Kearse,, performer Director of

:07:38. > :07:42.Public Prosecutions, not generally known as a fan of Jeremy Corbyn, he

:07:43. > :07:45.has been made the Brexit secretary. Neal Gruffydd, another MP who

:07:46. > :07:52.resigned from Jeremy Corbyn's top team at a protest of his leadership,

:07:53. > :07:56.she comes back into the fold. Whether there is real anger

:07:57. > :08:00.simmering away in Jeremy Corbyn's internal opponents is his decision

:08:01. > :08:03.to sack the Chief Whip, Rosie Winterton. She was seen as something

:08:04. > :08:08.of a diplomat behind-the-scenes who had stuck with it through thick and

:08:09. > :08:11.thin, who had helped broker peace between the two wings of the party,

:08:12. > :08:16.and yet the first announcement when they started coming out late

:08:17. > :08:19.yesterday that she is being dropped. That is important, because it is not

:08:20. > :08:22.just whether Jeremy Corbyn is willing to give jobs to his internal

:08:23. > :08:28.opponents, it is also whether they are willing to accept jobs. There

:08:29. > :08:32.are some suggestions that some who may have perhaps been willing to

:08:33. > :08:35.give it another go so incensed at Rosie Winterton being dropped as the

:08:36. > :08:41.person in charge of party discipline that they now won't come back. Alan,

:08:42. > :08:45.from the current Labour leader to a previous Labour leader, Tony Blair,

:08:46. > :08:50.he has been giving a hint, just a hint, that he may consider a return

:08:51. > :08:54.to front line politics. What can you tell us? Of all the bizarre twists

:08:55. > :09:04.and turns in British politics, you'd have thought we'd had enough for now

:09:05. > :09:06.and we didn't need another one, and yet absolutely extraordinary from

:09:07. > :09:08.Tony Blair in a magazine article, saying the question of whether he

:09:09. > :09:11.would return to front line British politics in some way, shape or form,

:09:12. > :09:15.is an open question. He says he is very worried that the country seems

:09:16. > :09:18.to have become pretty much a 1-party state for the Conservatives, and one

:09:19. > :09:22.that has a Prime Minister who hasn't been elected as Prime Minister,

:09:23. > :09:26.while his own party has drifted off to the left wing. Now, he doesn't

:09:27. > :09:32.give any sort of detail of what on earth he might have in mind of any

:09:33. > :09:35.sort of possible political comeback. Could you really see Tony Blair

:09:36. > :09:40.sitting in a Jeremy Corbyn cabinet? It would be pretty bizarre. But then

:09:41. > :09:43.again, we live in funny political times. Thank you, Alan Soady.

:09:44. > :09:45.The pound fell dramatically against the dollar when Asian

:09:46. > :09:47.markets opened this morning - suffering the biggest drop

:09:48. > :09:50.in value since the UK voted to leave the EU.

:09:51. > :09:52.At one point, sterling fell by almost 10% against the dollar,

:09:53. > :09:57.and it also plunged against the euro before quickly rebounding.

:09:58. > :10:04.Doctors have warned of the dangers of giving children complementary

:10:05. > :10:06.therapies after a four-year-old boy ended up in A

:10:07. > :10:08.He had been taking 12 different holistic supplements -

:10:09. > :10:10.including vitamin D and camel's milk -

:10:11. > :10:15.He developed a potentially fatal condition, but made a full recovery.

:10:16. > :10:17.Writing in the British Medical Journal, clinicians

:10:18. > :10:20.from St Bartholomew's Hospital in London said it should be "routine

:10:21. > :10:22.practice" to ask whether patients are taking any

:10:23. > :10:36.We will have more on this story later in the show.

:10:37. > :10:39.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9.30am.

:10:40. > :10:42.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:10:43. > :10:48.Let us know your thoughts on the autism story and everything else. If

:10:49. > :10:51.you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:10:52. > :10:53.Let's get some sport with Hugh Woozencroft.

:10:54. > :10:55.Hugh, some allegations coming out overnight concerning former

:10:56. > :10:59.New Zealand rugby union player Dan Carter.

:11:00. > :11:04.Good morning, Joanne. These allegations coming overnight from

:11:05. > :11:13.the French newspaper L'Equipe, which reported that the form all Blacks

:11:14. > :11:18.Dan Carter gave drug tests which showed anomalies, but the pair's

:11:19. > :11:26.manager said they had therapeutic use exemptions, we are becoming very

:11:27. > :11:32.familiar with that term, TUEs, giving them exemptions. The coach

:11:33. > :11:36.said that the understanding and assure insist that all the documents

:11:37. > :11:41.around the TUE was in place. Dan Carter is regarded as one of the

:11:42. > :11:46.sport's greatest ever players, and the winger scored 20 points between

:11:47. > :11:50.them as their team, racing Metro, beat to launch back in June. They

:11:51. > :11:55.were all tested by France's anti-doping agency, you're in

:11:56. > :12:02.samples from the two of them received traces of something called

:12:03. > :12:08.corticosteroids. Carter played 112 tests for New Zealand, he was part

:12:09. > :12:14.of the all Blacks side which won the World Cup a year ago. The winger

:12:15. > :12:17.scored 46 tries in 28 tests, two very big names indeed in Robbie

:12:18. > :12:23.union currently having their integrity questioned.

:12:24. > :12:28.And a former Team Sky cyclist has been talking about the use of

:12:29. > :12:34.prescribed medicines? Yes, staying with the same theme,

:12:35. > :12:39.the use of the therapeutic use exemptions, Jonathan Kinnon Locke

:12:40. > :12:43.has questioned the team's stands in allowing Bradley Wiggins to take a

:12:44. > :12:49.banned drug for his asthma. He was allowed to take it before his 2012

:12:50. > :12:57.Tour de France win. Athletes are allowed to take certain substances

:12:58. > :13:02.if there is a medical need. The cyclist was offered an illegal but

:13:03. > :13:13.controversial painkiller four years ago and told our sports editor that

:13:14. > :13:16.he was offered tramadol buy a doctor, but the doctor denies the

:13:17. > :13:20.claim. There was a time I rode the World

:13:21. > :13:26.Championships, we were offered a painkiller called tramadol, I was

:13:27. > :13:29.not in any pain so I did not need to take it, it was offered freely. We

:13:30. > :13:34.are seeing later on that they are calling for it to be banned, it

:13:35. > :13:38.should be on the Wada list and whatnot. It did not sit well with me

:13:39. > :13:42.at the time, I thought, I am not in pain, why would I need a painkiller?

:13:43. > :13:48.You can see more of that interview on the BBC sport website, he also

:13:49. > :14:00.discusses his own troubles, insisting he is 100% innocent of

:14:01. > :14:02.doping despite a two-year ban for irregularities in his blood

:14:03. > :14:04.passport, but it looks like this issue is set to continue. We will

:14:05. > :14:06.have more on that later in the programme.

:14:07. > :14:08.It's the most powerful Caribbean storm in a decade.

:14:09. > :14:10.Hurricane Matthew killed at least 300 people as it

:14:11. > :14:14.The International Red Cross has told this programme 80% of people

:14:15. > :14:17.Now the south east coast of the United States is bracing

:14:18. > :14:20.The hurricane is now bearing down on Florida.

:14:21. > :14:24.It's set to be the strongest storm to hit the United States for 12

:14:25. > :14:26.years, with the threat of 130mph winds and huge storm surges.

:14:27. > :14:29.In a moment we'll be live in Miami for the latest,

:14:30. > :14:32.but first Ines Brill from the Red Cross in Haiti says

:14:33. > :14:35.that urgent humanitarian assistance is needed.

:14:36. > :14:38.She told me relief agencies don't yet know the full extent

:14:39. > :14:40.of what they are dealing with, particularly in outlying areas

:14:41. > :14:42.where communications are down and transport infrastructure badly

:14:43. > :14:55.We think that more than 1 million people have been affected, that

:14:56. > :15:03.hundreds of thousands are in need of humanitarian assistance. We were

:15:04. > :15:09.there before the hurricane hit doing preparedness and sensitising the

:15:10. > :15:22.population to evacuate. Right now obviously we are in the response

:15:23. > :15:29.phase, and be prepared already an emergency appeal that will fund

:15:30. > :15:33.basically first aid and emergency help and psychological support,

:15:34. > :15:42.treatment of water and sanitation, assistance and cleaning water and

:15:43. > :15:52.personal hygiene items and basic needs for the population. The Red

:15:53. > :16:01.Cross movement is currently in the country working very hard in the

:16:02. > :16:08.affected areas right now. Our teams see Jeremie particularly, massive

:16:09. > :16:13.disruption in the town, water and electricity have been cut and

:16:14. > :16:17.medical services are not functioning animal, the population are urgently

:16:18. > :16:23.needs food, clean water, and obviously help assistance. It is

:16:24. > :16:26.going to obviously take some time to get to every area that has been

:16:27. > :16:37.affected. Based on previous experience, how long would you

:16:38. > :16:43.expect that to take? Our teams have reported, I think it is quite a big

:16:44. > :16:49.emergency in the sense that with the information we have received almost

:16:50. > :16:54.80% of the population were homeless, there is no water, communications

:16:55. > :16:59.were very difficult, and since the roads were blocked obviously it was

:17:00. > :17:08.very difficult to access and provide humanitarian assistance, so I think

:17:09. > :17:18.it is going to be difficult to start right now because of these

:17:19. > :17:21.constraints, but obviously housing, water, sanitation, infrastructure,

:17:22. > :17:26.it is going to take some time. Sorry, I could not hear clearly, did

:17:27. > :17:32.you say 30% or 80% of the population? 80%, at least in

:17:33. > :17:35.Jeremie, our teams reported there was a very big portion of the

:17:36. > :17:48.population homeless, there are groups were blown up and then

:17:49. > :17:51.obviously this is not an official figure in the sense that we need to

:17:52. > :17:56.go there and assess what happened, what the damages were and what kind

:17:57. > :18:01.of needs the population have at this stage. So in a community where 80%

:18:02. > :18:10.of the population are homeless, how do people come together? They need

:18:11. > :18:19.urgently to receive support and the government is trying to assess what

:18:20. > :18:24.is happening, the humanitarian community is trying to coordinate,

:18:25. > :18:30.we are working very closely, the Red Cross is working closely with the

:18:31. > :18:34.Haitian government to capture the full extent of the damage and the

:18:35. > :18:38.humanitarian need. Ines Brill from the Red Cross, thank you very much.

:18:39. > :18:40.That is the picture in Haiti. Let's go live now to Florida -

:18:41. > :18:43.first to our correspondent Luis Fajardo, who's in Miami

:18:44. > :18:46.on the south east coast. And we can go further up

:18:47. > :18:53.the coast to Melbourne, which is about an hour

:18:54. > :18:55.away from Orlando, and speak to ABC's correspondent

:18:56. > :18:58.Jim Ryan who's there. And we can speak to Jason Foster -

:18:59. > :19:01.he calls himself a storm chaser and he's been filming

:19:02. > :19:03.Hurricane Matthew this morning. He's in Melbourne too

:19:04. > :19:08.and is on the phone now. Jason, thank you for joining us,

:19:09. > :19:12.what has it been like? Pretty hectic, we have a night-time

:19:13. > :19:15.landfall, most of the activity has been at night so it has been

:19:16. > :19:20.difficult to see the damage and things but the winds have been very

:19:21. > :19:24.strong and a lot of activity going on as far as the weather. Luckily

:19:25. > :19:29.everybody has pretty much cleared out of town and done the evacuation,

:19:30. > :19:32.so from what I can tell so far up the evacuation has really worked and

:19:33. > :19:43.most people have stayed safe with this one. Luis, you are in Miami,

:19:44. > :19:48.what is the situation there? A sense of relief, we were told to expect a

:19:49. > :19:52.very serious storm but thankfully it moved a little to the right and did

:19:53. > :19:55.not really affect Miami. People of cores are very concerned about what

:19:56. > :19:59.is going on in the north of the state and the central part of the

:20:00. > :20:03.state, and the stories about Haiti, Miami has a very big Haitian

:20:04. > :20:07.population so it strikes close to home even though Miami, fortunately,

:20:08. > :20:11.for the time being, has not been very hurt by this. For the time

:20:12. > :20:19.being? It could still have an impact, presumably? Some

:20:20. > :20:25.meteorologists are suggesting that the storm could have a path that

:20:26. > :20:31.might turn back to the south, to sub in Florida and the Bahamas, at this

:20:32. > :20:34.point it is only speculation and projections, but people are still

:20:35. > :20:37.paying close attention to this storm, which was supposed to be the

:20:38. > :20:43.first major storm to hit this area in more than ten years. So, again,

:20:44. > :20:47.Miami has kept its Lucky strike for the time being. Let's go to Jim

:20:48. > :20:53.Ryan, who is about an hour away from Orlando. What is it like where you

:20:54. > :20:56.are? Good morning. High winds now, extreme rain began late last night

:20:57. > :21:22.and is nearly constant, most of the power has gone out around

:21:23. > :21:24.this community. Not many people are around to see it because the

:21:25. > :21:27.evacuation orders have been heeded in large part so while power is out,

:21:28. > :21:30.the wind is raging, the rain is coming down, but most of the people

:21:31. > :21:32.who live and vacation here have evacuated, heeding the warnings that

:21:33. > :21:34.went out late yesterday from the governor, whose words were stern, he

:21:35. > :21:37.said, Hurricane Matthew can kill you. It seems it will not be as bad

:21:38. > :21:40.as had been feared because hopefully the hurricane will not touch the

:21:41. > :21:42.land? This storm has been unpredictable, it is about 45 miles

:21:43. > :21:45.to the latest Reading East of where I am, offshore. If it takes a little

:21:46. > :21:47.turn to the left towards the shoreline at this point it would

:21:48. > :21:50.have devastating impact if it made landfall here. It could be just as

:21:51. > :21:52.bad though if it stays offshore, causing open up along the shoreline

:21:53. > :21:55.through Florida to Georgia, the Carolinas, it could impact many more

:21:56. > :22:01.people than it would if it made a direct hit here. And whatever

:22:02. > :22:06.happens, that many people leaving an area and then returning have an

:22:07. > :22:11.impact, doesn't it? What will happen in terms of an orderly return of

:22:12. > :22:17.people? The evacuation was remarkably orderly. I remember a

:22:18. > :22:19.storm that hit Huston a few years ago and caused mass destruction,

:22:20. > :22:25.confusion as millions of people hit the road. This time it has been

:22:26. > :22:27.fairly orderly, fairly phased, in other words people left in phases

:22:28. > :22:36.which kept the traffic from being too bad, and I assumed the return

:22:37. > :22:39.would be just as orderly, not in a panic situation either. Jason is in

:22:40. > :22:44.the same area and said the same, that there are not so many people

:22:45. > :22:47.around. You have experience of storm chasing, you have seen these things

:22:48. > :22:58.many times, how does this compare with your previous experience? Was

:22:59. > :23:04.that for me? Yes, Jason. It was interesting because for years we

:23:05. > :23:08.have talked about in Florida, because we did not have any

:23:09. > :23:13.hurricanes, there would be a forgetfulness of how serious the

:23:14. > :23:19.situation was, whereas other years, year two there is always a reminder,

:23:20. > :23:24.it is pretty serious, we have to do this, which now we have gone through

:23:25. > :23:31.it and there has been evacuations and it has worked as a good thing,

:23:32. > :23:34.the storm has been intense, as strong as something you folks were

:23:35. > :23:42.talking about, very unpredictable but very strong, there was a

:23:43. > :23:47.potential with hurricane Charley back in 2004, a strong storm like

:23:48. > :23:53.that, so its strength compares but so far it has stayed offshore and

:23:54. > :23:58.everybody is thankful, so far, that that is the case. Jim, it must be

:23:59. > :24:01.terrifying knowing that you are in the path of something where you can

:24:02. > :24:09.see the impact it is having in areas prior to coming to where you are.

:24:10. > :24:13.How do people react to that? Yes, I think it prompted them to action.

:24:14. > :24:17.There is concern even among veterans of storms like this, there has not

:24:18. > :24:21.been a powerful storm like this in this part of the country for about

:24:22. > :24:24.11 years but people who have been here longer than that recognise the

:24:25. > :24:28.potential danger and they are willing to pack up their cars and

:24:29. > :24:31.trucks and leave the area. Unfortunately there has been a

:24:32. > :24:35.population explosion along the coast in the past decade or so and many

:24:36. > :24:49.people who live here have not been through this

:24:50. > :24:53.sort of storm and government leaders were concerned people would not take

:24:54. > :24:55.it seriously. This car is being rocked back and forth by the wind

:24:56. > :24:59.which is pushing to regain strength at this point. Even if it does not

:25:00. > :25:01.hit the land, it was to have a big impact? Absolutely, the size of the

:25:02. > :25:04.storm and the intense wind speeds, even if it does not make a direct

:25:05. > :25:08.hit, it will still have a big impact in the area. What is the time frame

:25:09. > :25:13.now? Over the next several hours, 12, 15, 16 hours, we will continue

:25:14. > :25:18.to the effect from this large storm, some 300 miles across, I believe,

:25:19. > :25:23.from side to side, as it makes its way up the coast. We are looking at

:25:24. > :25:28.many hours of very heavy rain still to come and high winds. Jason, what

:25:29. > :25:33.is it that makes you want to race into an area with a storm like this

:25:34. > :25:38.when everyone else is leaving? It is one of those things, I go after the

:25:39. > :25:44.footage, it is the storytelling aspect of it, it first started out

:25:45. > :25:47.as a general interest in mother nature and the extreme aspect of it,

:25:48. > :25:52.but the more I have done it it is the fact that people do evacuate and

:25:53. > :25:57.they don't always get a chance to see why, and I am providing the why,

:25:58. > :26:02.when people see the footage they are like, oh, yeah, that is why I leave,

:26:03. > :26:07.that is why it is a great idea to evacuate, because they can see for

:26:08. > :26:13.real what the footage is, and I can do it as an expert and then other

:26:14. > :26:18.people can just watch it on TV and on shows later on and see it. Have

:26:19. > :26:22.you ever felt at risk yourself? Oh, yeah, there is always a risk. One of

:26:23. > :26:28.the things as a storm chaser, hurricane Jason, you are always

:26:29. > :26:31.trying to evaluate how to mitigate the risk down to the lowest amount

:26:32. > :26:35.possible. You don't do this without risk, there is always a risk, but

:26:36. > :26:43.sometimes, those rewards come with that risk, so you have to worry

:26:44. > :26:49.about storm surge and flying debris, and other dangers, it takes longer

:26:50. > :26:54.hours, I have been up 24 hours and that comes with its own risks, so

:26:55. > :26:58.you have to balance and know how to work that. Jason Foster, Storm

:26:59. > :27:00.Jonas, and ABC correspondent Jim Ryan, thank you both very much. --

:27:01. > :27:02.storm chaser. One of its MEPs is in hospital

:27:03. > :27:07.following a bust-up with a colleague, and one

:27:08. > :27:09.of its main donors is threatening to withdraw his support,

:27:10. > :27:15.saying the party's Can Ukip pull itself together

:27:16. > :27:16.again? And we'll be talking

:27:17. > :27:19.about racism on and off the football pitch with Liverpool's first black

:27:20. > :27:21.player Howard Gayle, Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:27:22. > :27:31.with a summary of today's news. Hurricane Matthew, the most powerful

:27:32. > :27:36.storm to threaten the US Atlantic coast for 12 years,

:27:37. > :27:39.is now moving towards Florida. Officials in Haiti say more than 300

:27:40. > :27:42.people there have been killed. And in the US, around 2 million

:27:43. > :27:45.people living along the south-east coast have been urged

:27:46. > :27:48.to move inland. Rick Scott, the Governor of Florida,

:27:49. > :27:50.has declared a state of emergency Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told

:27:51. > :27:57.reporters he was punched by a colleague after a meeting

:27:58. > :28:00.of his party's MEPs. The Ukip leadership hopeful

:28:01. > :28:02.is recovering in hospital after he collapsed at

:28:03. > :28:06.the European Parliament yesterday. He told the Daily Mail

:28:07. > :28:09.that his colleague Mike Hookem came A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied

:28:10. > :28:14.he had been involved in a fight. The party says it's

:28:15. > :28:18.investigating the incident. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has

:28:19. > :28:22.started reshuffling his cabinet, but critics have suggested he's

:28:23. > :28:26.already failed in his promise Diane Abbott, has been promoted

:28:27. > :28:31.to Shadow Home Secretary - a position she says she's

:28:32. > :28:36.honoured to have. And the former civil liberties

:28:37. > :28:38.campaigner Shami Chakrabarti, who was recently made a Labour peer

:28:39. > :28:41.after her review into anti-Semitism in the party, joins the top team

:28:42. > :28:48.as Shadow Attorney General. Doctors have warned of the dangers

:28:49. > :28:50.of giving children complementary therapies, after a four-year-old boy

:28:51. > :28:55.ended up in A He had been taking 12 different

:28:56. > :28:57.holistic supplements - including vitamin D

:28:58. > :28:59.and camel's milk - He developed a potentially fatal

:29:00. > :29:06.condition, but made a full recovery. Writing in the British Medical

:29:07. > :29:08.Journal, clinicians from St Bartholomew's Hospital

:29:09. > :29:13.in London said it should be "routine practice" to ask whether

:29:14. > :29:15.patients are taking any The first deal limiting greenhouse

:29:16. > :29:20.gases from international aviation has been agreed,

:29:21. > :29:23.after years of arguing. From 2020, any increase in airline

:29:24. > :29:26.carbon dioxide emissions will be offset by activities

:29:27. > :29:31.like tree planting, Scientists have welcomed the deal,

:29:32. > :29:37.but warned that plans to cut That is a summary of the latest BBC

:29:38. > :29:50.News. More at 10am. Here's some sport now,

:29:51. > :29:59.with Hugh Woozencroft. It was billed as the toughest trip

:30:00. > :30:03.of the Wales World Cup qualifying campaign, and afterwards their

:30:04. > :30:07.manager, Chris Coleman, described it as a point gained. They led twice

:30:08. > :30:14.against Austria in Vienna, but goals from Marko Arnautovic made it 2-2.

:30:15. > :30:19.The Republic of Ireland got their first win in the qualifiers, beating

:30:20. > :30:24.Georgia 1-0 in Dublin. Seamus Coleman's goal put them level on

:30:25. > :30:28.points with Serbia and Austria. Manchester city's women won their

:30:29. > :30:32.first match of their Champions League campaign. Lewis Hamilton's

:30:33. > :30:39.hopes of getting his title challenge back on track have suffered a blow.

:30:40. > :30:45.Nico Rosberg topped the time sheet in the practice sessions. Edgbaston

:30:46. > :30:52.will host the first date- night test might session. It will start at 2pm

:30:53. > :30:56.and end after 9pm. England won the toss and decided to bat in their

:30:57. > :30:58.first ODI against Bangladesh in back. We will keep you fully updated

:30:59. > :31:02.with that one. -- in Dakar. It's been another extraordinary week

:31:03. > :31:05.in the life of Ukip. On Tuesday - their new leader,

:31:06. > :31:07.Diane James, stood down Yesterday, the man tipped to take

:31:08. > :31:11.over was hospitalised after an apparent row

:31:12. > :31:14.with a colleague at Steven Woolfe suffered two seizures

:31:15. > :31:18.after reportedly getting into a fight with another Ukip

:31:19. > :31:21.member after a heated party Mr Woolfe issued a statement

:31:22. > :31:28.from his hospital bed yesterday saying he was feeling much better

:31:29. > :31:35.and he's due to be discharged later. He also told the Daily Mail that

:31:36. > :31:38.Ukip's Defence Spokesperson, Mike Hookem, "came at me

:31:39. > :31:43.and landed a blow". Nigel Farage - who's back

:31:44. > :31:45.as the party's stand-in leader - condemned the incident,

:31:46. > :31:47.saying he would be launching an inquiry to get

:31:48. > :31:49.to the bottom of it. We can chat about this

:31:50. > :31:56.now with Lisa Duffy, who's a Ukip councillor,

:31:57. > :32:05.and was runner up in the last Ukip She gave her reaction to Radio 4's

:32:06. > :32:10.today programme. Mike said they were in and MEPs' closed meeting, things

:32:11. > :32:14.got very heated when they were talking about different subjects,

:32:15. > :32:18.such as Stephen thinking about defecting to the Tories. Stephen

:32:19. > :32:23.said, let's take this outside, and started taking his jacket off. Mike

:32:24. > :32:27.said there was a small scuffle but no punches were thrown. He said it

:32:28. > :32:31.all opened and Stephen fell backwards and he then hit his head.

:32:32. > :32:36.He is categorically stating that he never threw a punch at Stephen, and

:32:37. > :32:39.he will be giving a press conference this afternoon at about 2pm. You

:32:40. > :32:52.will know that Steven Woolfe is quoted in the Daily Mail

:32:53. > :32:55.as saying, "Mike came at me and landed a blow". To be fair, I have

:32:56. > :32:58.not had an opportunity to speak to Stephen. I have known both MEPs for

:32:59. > :33:01.such a long time, this is a terrible thing to be happening at the moment,

:33:02. > :33:04.and I'm really wishing Stephen a very speedy recovery. Did Michael

:33:05. > :33:09.come say he was sorry about what happened? We didn't go into that

:33:10. > :33:12.level of detail, it was a quick conversation was going to come onto

:33:13. > :33:16.the radio this morning, I was hoping to have a few moments with him, but

:33:17. > :33:24.I'm sure he will be talking about that at the press conference that

:33:25. > :33:26.afternoon. The thing that he was keen for you to get across was that

:33:27. > :33:29.he didn't hit him? Absolutely. We are joined from Cardiff

:33:30. > :33:34.by Neil Hamilton, who's Ukip's leader in Wales,

:33:35. > :33:37.and here in the studio is Dr Simon Usherwood,

:33:38. > :33:39.senior lecturer in politics at the University of Surrey,

:33:40. > :33:47.who has a special interest in UKIP Neil Hamilton, you said that Stephen

:33:48. > :33:50.hit a fight and came off worse, you have been criticised by Ukip's donor

:33:51. > :33:55.Aaron Banks. Do you stand by what you said? I was just reporting what

:33:56. > :33:59.I have been told. I made it clear in the interview yesterday that I

:34:00. > :34:02.wasn't present in the meeting, I was asked, what did you know and what

:34:03. > :34:07.have you been told's we will find out today what the truth is. Steven

:34:08. > :34:13.Woolfe has made an extremely serious allegation about Mike Hookem. He

:34:14. > :34:15.said that he was punched, the consequence was actual bodily harm.

:34:16. > :34:18.Nigel Farage said yesterday that he thought that even Wolf might

:34:19. > :34:23.actually die as a consequence of this. Why has he not reported this

:34:24. > :34:29.to the police? He has actually said that his party colleague came at him

:34:30. > :34:34.and, yes, he said landed a blow, pushed him into a door frame, but

:34:35. > :34:40.obviously Mike Hookem is disputing this. Hearing all of this third

:34:41. > :34:44.hand. Whatever has happened here, I mean, it is just dreadful for the

:34:45. > :34:49.party, isn't it, how does this look? Dreadful, of course it does, it is

:34:50. > :34:53.grossly irresponsible, whatever happened. This is the sort of thing

:34:54. > :34:59.which should not be tolerated by a serious political party which is

:35:00. > :35:03.vying to be a part of the government of the country, ultimately. And in

:35:04. > :35:07.Wales, we've got six members in the Welsh Assembly, we're getting on

:35:08. > :35:10.with our day jobs here, we are absolutely frustrated at the

:35:11. > :35:15.headlines which have been generated by Ukip Central over the last week

:35:16. > :35:20.or so. Eusebio shouldn't be tolerated. It looks to be

:35:21. > :35:24.symptomatic of a party in disarray with senior figures openly fighting

:35:25. > :35:28.verbally for some time, insult is being thrown all over the place.

:35:29. > :35:33.Yes, this is absolutely appalling. You referred to Aaron Banks moment

:35:34. > :35:37.ago. For months now I've been on the receiving end of a tirade of

:35:38. > :35:44.vilification from Aaron Banks and his followers. A lot of it is

:35:45. > :35:48.appalling abuse. He has e-mailed my wife and insulted her. And this is

:35:49. > :35:53.the sort of thing which simply cannot be tolerated. You're all

:35:54. > :35:57.adults. What's going on? Exactly. I'm not responding to that guide

:35:58. > :36:01.reviews. Have you never said anything rude about anyone else in

:36:02. > :36:07.the party? I've defended myself when attacks, but I do not hurl abuse,

:36:08. > :36:14.certainly personal abuse, at other people. Aaron Banks has said that

:36:15. > :36:18.Douglas Carswell, our only MP, is semi-autistic, and he's referred

:36:19. > :36:24.disparagingly to his wonky chin and so on. What are we doing, pitting

:36:25. > :36:30.people like this to run amok inside our party? Should Aaron Banks go's

:36:31. > :36:33.he has said he will go if you influence what happens in terms of

:36:34. > :36:39.trying to block Steven Woolfe standing as leader? I can't block

:36:40. > :36:45.Steven Woolfe standing as leader, I'm the leader of Ukip's Assembly

:36:46. > :36:48.Members in Cardiff, I'm a member of Ukip, I'm entitled to my views on a

:36:49. > :36:54.candidate in an election where I will have a vote. But it is Aaron

:36:55. > :36:59.Banks simply stirring the pot here in a way which is not helpful to the

:37:00. > :37:05.party, and he is misrepresenting the situation. Can the party afford not

:37:06. > :37:09.to have Aaron Banks? What is the state of the party's finances right

:37:10. > :37:13.now? I can assure you we can afford not to have somebody like Aaron

:37:14. > :37:17.Banks in our party, I'm not interested in his money, Ukip is not

:37:18. > :37:20.for sale. In the course of a long life in politics, I've seen many

:37:21. > :37:25.rich men who suddenly becoming France to buy all the publicity

:37:26. > :37:29.which politicians are able to generate -- suddenly become

:37:30. > :37:34.entranced. Many rich men think they can buy political parties as a kind

:37:35. > :37:39.of trophy or toy to play with. I afraid Aaron Banks is one of those.

:37:40. > :37:43.He has only been in the party around five minutes and thinks he ruled the

:37:44. > :37:47.roost. I'm not even aware he has attended a single branch meeting

:37:48. > :37:51.anywhere, he has never been elected anywhere, we are better off without

:37:52. > :37:56.people of that kind. What about Nigel Farage, is he ruling the roost

:37:57. > :38:01.at the moment? He is now interim leader of the party, so, yes, he is

:38:02. > :38:10.ruling the roost. Going back to the financial position, there are

:38:11. > :38:12.reports that Ukip is in the red to the tune of several million pounds?

:38:13. > :38:15.If you look at our financial accounts at companies house, which

:38:16. > :38:18.were filed only two months ago, last month we had a loss of ?850,000.

:38:19. > :38:21.These figures are easily dulled with with the right leadership, if people

:38:22. > :38:26.think it is worth investing in the party -- easily dealt with. That is

:38:27. > :38:29.a question, is it worth investing in the party's what does the party

:38:30. > :38:36.stand for now, Brexit has happened, we have got a Tory government

:38:37. > :38:40.talking about delivering on what the people wanted on immigration, why

:38:41. > :38:44.would people invest in Ukip, what is the future for it? To start with, it

:38:45. > :38:48.is going to be at least two years before we leave the European Union,

:38:49. > :38:53.we have to hold the Government to its promises. We have had some very

:38:54. > :38:57.high standing slogans from Theresa May, particularly on immigration,

:38:58. > :38:59.but in the years that she was Home Secretary she added 2 million people

:39:00. > :39:05.to the population of this country. I'm waiting to see what action takes

:39:06. > :39:08.place rather than relying on words of somebody who represents a party

:39:09. > :39:11.which has fallen down on its promises for every single year that

:39:12. > :39:16.it has been in office. There are a great deal of things for Ukip to do.

:39:17. > :39:20.Wales, we fought an election in May and got 30% of the vote and seven

:39:21. > :39:24.Assembly Members are elected on a full programme of domestic reform.

:39:25. > :39:28.We're the only party calling for the democratisation of the health

:39:29. > :39:31.service, elected health boards, so the people who actually use the

:39:32. > :39:34.service can decide its priorities. There is a whole range of domestic

:39:35. > :39:44.issues that we are fighting for day in and day out in the Welsh

:39:45. > :39:47.Assembly, we are a shop window every Ukip in the rest of the UK. If Aaron

:39:48. > :39:50.Banks closes his wallet and nobody else is forthcoming to plug the

:39:51. > :39:52.financial hole that Ukip has, is the party kaput? No, of course it isn't.

:39:53. > :39:57.The parties of I've corrupt Aaron Banks before he came on board and we

:39:58. > :40:02.will survive again. So will the party survived without Aaron Banks.

:40:03. > :40:06.In member of the Ukip National executive has given the party of

:40:07. > :40:10.nearly ?2 million over the last few years. There are other donors who

:40:11. > :40:14.would contribute. In fact, many people would contribute to Ukip who

:40:15. > :40:20.put off by the antics of people like Aaron Banks. Steven Woolfe, can he,

:40:21. > :40:24.has he brought the party into disrepute, getting caught up,

:40:25. > :40:28.whatever the detail is on what has happened, as the party being into

:40:29. > :40:32.disrepute in a way which means he should not stand as leader? Well,

:40:33. > :40:36.will find out as a result of an inquiry, I'm not going to speculate

:40:37. > :40:40.on that, but I will repeat what I said at the start of this programme,

:40:41. > :40:44.that is somebody makes an allegation of a physical attack which has

:40:45. > :40:49.resulted in hospitalisation, that is actual bodily harm, and in English

:40:50. > :40:52.law, you know, that is very definitely a matter for the police.

:40:53. > :40:56.This alleged assault took place in Strasbourg, and therefore has to be

:40:57. > :41:00.judged by French law, which I am not an expert on. But nevertheless, it

:41:01. > :41:04.seems to me that this goes far beyond the need for a party inquiry

:41:05. > :41:09.and it is something which the police ought to investigate. Should anybody

:41:10. > :41:15.be looted from the party in the meantime? No, I mean, -- should

:41:16. > :41:19.anybody be excluded. We will have to see what the results of this

:41:20. > :41:22.inquiry. I heard Lisa Duffy saying that Mike Hookem is going to make a

:41:23. > :41:27.statement this afternoon, maybe we will get a better picture in a few

:41:28. > :41:31.hours' time. Steven Woolfe is saying one thing, Mike Hookem is saying the

:41:32. > :41:35.other, it shouldn't be too difficult to get to the truth. I interviewed

:41:36. > :41:40.you yesterday, I think it was, and you said you wouldn't stand. Are you

:41:41. > :41:49.getting tempted? No, absolutely not. I've never had the slightest

:41:50. > :41:51.intention of putting my name forward for the leadership of Ukip. I've got

:41:52. > :41:54.a full-time job in Cardiff is leading the Ukip group. I'm four

:41:55. > :41:57.days a week in the Assembly in Cardiff, other days I am out and

:41:58. > :42:00.about in my vast region of mid and West Wales. I'm perfectly happy

:42:01. > :42:04.doing what I'm doing here. We are working as a cohesive group and

:42:05. > :42:09.we're making constructive contributions to the political life

:42:10. > :42:14.of Wales. And we should be the shop window every Ukip in the rest of the

:42:15. > :42:18.UK, not these kind of sideshows and pantomimes that have been dominated

:42:19. > :42:23.headlines in the past few weeks. A statement from Nigel Farage, he says

:42:24. > :42:26.he has confirmed he has asked the party chairman and secretary to

:42:27. > :42:30.conduct an investigation early next week, from which the truth will be

:42:31. > :42:33.discovered, all other claims being made in the media by people who were

:42:34. > :42:39.not there at the time or extremely helpful. It sounds like that might

:42:40. > :42:42.be partly directed at you. I'm not making any claims. You did speak

:42:43. > :42:52.about it initially when you it sounded like Steven Woolfe

:42:53. > :42:56.basically... No, I have not made any statement about what happened

:42:57. > :43:02.yesterday. I was asked yesterday by a reporter what have I heard, and I

:43:03. > :43:05.simply reported what I had heard. The newspapers are full of it this

:43:06. > :43:09.morning not because I have been saying this, Steven Woolfe said one

:43:10. > :43:13.thing and Mike Hookem said another, this is not something which I have

:43:14. > :43:17.invented or would be reported but for what I'm saying. It is a new

:43:18. > :43:23.story, a matter of public interest, dairy inconvenient for Ukip, but we

:43:24. > :43:27.can't pretend it is not happening. So, you know, I'm not stirring the

:43:28. > :43:30.pot or doing anything of that kind. But, you know, people out there,

:43:31. > :43:36.members of Ukip in particular, wondering what is going on.

:43:37. > :43:42.Simon Ashwood, it is particularly interesting for everyone at the

:43:43. > :43:46.moment, what do you make of what is going on? I think this reflects a

:43:47. > :43:50.deeper issue in the party that, as you said, we have had the

:43:51. > :43:54.referendum, for a lot of voters they think it has been secured, Neal is

:43:55. > :43:58.right to say that we have not left the EU yet, but the purpose of the

:43:59. > :44:02.party seems to have disappeared. You are seeing different elements within

:44:03. > :44:07.the party that are articulate in different ideas about where the

:44:08. > :44:11.party should be happening. To see all of this playing out so publicly,

:44:12. > :44:21.the level of infighting that there is, it is an extraordinary thing to

:44:22. > :44:25.be watching isn't it? It is, but I think we need to still see what

:44:26. > :44:32.happens with this inquiry and quite what the truth of the matter is. But

:44:33. > :44:36.regardless I think it reflects on the difficulties that the party

:44:37. > :44:40.faces in what is a very difficult political landscape. So much has

:44:41. > :44:45.changed in British politics at the moment, trying to find a way forward

:44:46. > :44:50.is very hard. Do you think Ukip will survive? I think you have to put

:44:51. > :44:57.your bets on saying that they will. They have been through similar and

:44:58. > :45:00.different kinds of conflicts before, internal rifts, they have survived

:45:01. > :45:06.and persisted through that. Because there was the goal of Brexit? Yes,

:45:07. > :45:09.but I think you will find people, like Neal, who are still committed

:45:10. > :45:13.to holding the Government to account, it is an issue that will

:45:14. > :45:19.remain live in British politics for the next decade at least. The

:45:20. > :45:24.question is, what more can the party do? How can it build and maintain

:45:25. > :45:28.the coalition it has had under Nigel Farage, the people who feel they

:45:29. > :45:33.have been left behind by the system, the people disaffected by politics

:45:34. > :45:49.and who want to change? That is a constituency which requires a

:45:50. > :45:53.different. In terms of the finances of the party, what I was talking

:45:54. > :45:55.about with Neil Hamilton of the financial black hole, the need to

:45:56. > :45:58.plug that, he was saying that if Aaron Banks goes and does not keep

:45:59. > :46:00.donating, who knows what will happen, he is threatening to go, but

:46:01. > :46:03.talking about the importance of people wanting to invest in the

:46:04. > :46:06.party, is it clear that there are many people out there queueing up to

:46:07. > :46:09.invest in the party? The party has had a big increase in membership in

:46:10. > :46:10.the last few years which has helped to increase the number of

:46:11. > :46:13.subscriptions, small donors helping to provide a stable base, but the

:46:14. > :46:17.party relies on big donors like Aaron Banks, people making large

:46:18. > :46:23.contributions. Remember that Aaron Banks has also been responsible for

:46:24. > :46:26.funding leave .edu, which was... Sorry to interrupt, we are going to

:46:27. > :46:33.the hospital in Strasberg weather is a statement.

:46:34. > :46:37.He cannot wait to go and be with them, he is sick of croissant and

:46:38. > :46:40.looking forward to a good full English breakfast, so he is in good

:46:41. > :46:44.form. He has been observed overnight, they have been waking him

:46:45. > :46:49.up as a precaution to keep an eye on him. He was very tired, quite

:46:50. > :46:57.groggy, but now he is definitely in a better state. The hospital have

:46:58. > :47:02.moved him to the neurological department as a precaution, and they

:47:03. > :47:07.have asked to keep him in for a further 48 hours so that they can

:47:08. > :47:11.observe him. But I must stress that this is precautionary. Stephen has

:47:12. > :47:19.this morning reached out the hand of friendship to Mr Hookem, to Mike,

:47:20. > :47:24.and has realised that things did go too far in the MEP meeting, so he

:47:25. > :47:33.has made moves forward for keeping us all as a band of friends. I also

:47:34. > :47:38.want to point out the fact that there are people back in the UK who

:47:39. > :47:45.are speculating about what has been happening both in the EP beating and

:47:46. > :47:50.also here in the hospital with Stephen's help. That needs to stop.

:47:51. > :47:54.Stephen has a large family and they are concerned about things they are

:47:55. > :47:58.hearing through the media and we are asking that people who are in the

:47:59. > :48:02.know are the ones that actually inform the media and we are asking

:48:03. > :48:07.that the media please leave his family alone. Steven will now need

:48:08. > :48:13.to recuperate when he gets home and will need time to himself to make a

:48:14. > :48:17.full recovery. Can you explain what exactly happened? There are two very

:48:18. > :48:41.contradictory stories. The party will be holding a full and

:48:42. > :48:44.thorough investigation into what happened. I, myself, was not in the

:48:45. > :48:47.room at the moment that it happened, I walked into the room as it was

:48:48. > :48:50.happening, so I cannot comment fully and I do not wish to at this stage.

:48:51. > :48:52.As I say, the party will hold a full and thorough investigation, as we

:48:53. > :48:55.always do in these situations. What was his account to you? To be

:48:56. > :48:58.honest, we have not talked about that, we were more concerned about

:48:59. > :49:00.Steven 's help. It was very worrying yesterday, a stressful occurrence to

:49:01. > :49:04.see one of your colleagues lying on the floor surrounded by doctors and

:49:05. > :49:12.nurses, wearing a neck brace, bound up with machines attached to him. We

:49:13. > :49:17.were very concerned. Will he stand for leader still? It is way too

:49:18. > :49:20.early for us to even consider that now in the circumstances. He has

:49:21. > :49:29.reached out the hand of friendship to Mike. How has he done that? I

:49:30. > :49:39.believe by e-mail. Has Michael Kum responded? I don't know. I think

:49:40. > :49:42.only people who were in the room should be commenting on what

:49:43. > :49:46.happened in the room, we do not want second or third hand accounts of

:49:47. > :49:48.what happened being relayed and it is inappropriate for people to

:49:49. > :49:52.comment about things that have happened when we did not know what

:49:53. > :49:57.was going to be happening to Steven Woolfe health-wise. It was, at one

:49:58. > :50:03.stage, touch and go. Are you staying here? No, I will be going home to my

:50:04. > :50:08.family, I have a very busy schedule next week. Nigel has now gone back

:50:09. > :50:13.as well. What do you think this has done to the reputation of the party?

:50:14. > :50:17.We will have to wait and see but as we have discovered many times with

:50:18. > :50:22.Ukip, we are a bit Teflon aren't we, things get thrown at us and it seems

:50:23. > :50:29.to bounce off. We will wait and see. You throw things at yourselves leg

:50:30. > :50:33.we often do, don't read. But I cannot comment, I was not in the

:50:34. > :50:41.room at the time. It was an MEP meeting. You say staying at hospital

:50:42. > :50:48.is precautionary, is there any concern about his health? As far as

:50:49. > :50:51.I know, no. What did the e-mail say? He was reaching out the hand of

:50:52. > :50:58.friendship to Mike. That is as far as I can tell you. How many MEPs

:50:59. > :51:09.have been to visit Mr Woolfe? I don't, to honest. Did he apologise

:51:10. > :51:15.in the e-mail? I cannot comment. When will he be discharged? They are

:51:16. > :51:20.saying 48-hour spot observation and we will see where it goes from

:51:21. > :51:25.there. Thank you very much. Have the police wanted to talk to Mr Woolfe?

:51:26. > :51:28.There has been no police involvement at all and Mr Woolfe does not want

:51:29. > :51:32.any police involvement. Thank you very much, I need to go and get a

:51:33. > :51:36.flight, I apologise for dragging you all the way to Strasberg.

:51:37. > :51:40.Goodbye. Nathan Gill saying there is no police involvement in what has

:51:41. > :51:44.happened, Steven Woolfe does not want there to be any police

:51:45. > :51:50.involvement. He said at one stage it was touch and go, and he said the

:51:51. > :51:53.hand of friendship is being reached out because Steven Woolfe realised

:51:54. > :52:01.things had gone too far. Let's go back to Neil Hamilton. Can you all

:52:02. > :52:06.kiss and make up now? We have done it many times in the past and I'm

:52:07. > :52:11.sure it can happen again. But I'm rather disturbed by what I have just

:52:12. > :52:16.heard, because we have had an allegation publicly made that a

:52:17. > :52:20.physical assault was made on one of our MEPs which might have been

:52:21. > :52:25.fatal. How can the police not be involved when there is an allegation

:52:26. > :52:29.of such gravity that has been made? It wasn't fatal, Mike Hookem says he

:52:30. > :52:34.did not hit Steven Woolfe, and Steven Woolfe says he does not want

:52:35. > :52:38.there to be any police involvement? He has made a serious allegation

:52:39. > :52:44.publicly that Michael Kum hit him so hard, Nathan Gill has just said,

:52:45. > :52:47.that it looked like it was touch and go -- might welcome. Can you imagine

:52:48. > :52:51.anything more serious as an allegation than that? And

:52:52. > :52:55.investigation ought to be conducted, and the best people, when an

:52:56. > :52:59.allegation of criminality of that kind is made against somebody else,

:53:00. > :53:03.should be investigated by the police. But if Steven Woolfe does

:53:04. > :53:07.not want there to be any police involvement, shouldn't it just stay

:53:08. > :53:11.there? If he is not prepared to talk to the police then they won't get

:53:12. > :53:17.anywhere, but he has made this allegation publicly, it has of

:53:18. > :53:20.course had a significant impact on Ukip's reputation publicly, and I

:53:21. > :53:26.think we should now ask why he does not want to involve the police.

:53:27. > :53:32.Should he still stand as leader? He was the favourite. He is perfectly

:53:33. > :53:37.entitled to stand as leader and as I understand it, I'm not sure he has

:53:38. > :53:41.actually put his nomination papers in as yet, last time he had

:53:42. > :53:44.difficulty in that department, but of course he is perfectly entitled

:53:45. > :53:48.to stand the leadership of the party. When you say that, it sounds

:53:49. > :53:53.at odds with your previous sentence about your concerns about what has

:53:54. > :53:58.gone on here. I'm not sure what you mean? You are talking about how

:53:59. > :54:04.serious this is and how it should be investigated by the police, saying

:54:05. > :54:07.he has made a serious allegation. Should somebody caught up in that

:54:08. > :54:13.sort of situation be standing as party leader? He is entitled to

:54:14. > :54:17.stand, party members will take a view on whether he would be elected.

:54:18. > :54:21.Would you want to see him as party leader if he did stand? I didn't

:54:22. > :54:25.support him when he put his hat in the ring last time but that was for

:54:26. > :54:29.internal reasons, that he was standing on a platform of getting

:54:30. > :54:33.rid of the National Executive Committee which is elected by party

:54:34. > :54:37.members as a counterbalance to the leader. He wanted to concentrate

:54:38. > :54:42.more powers in the hands of a leader who would not be accountable, which

:54:43. > :54:45.seems to me to be fundamentally wrong in organisational terms. I

:54:46. > :54:51.have no personal quarrel with Steven Woolfe, I know him well, I have

:54:52. > :54:54.known him for years, perfectly friendly, cordial relationship, but

:54:55. > :54:59.I did have political differences with him on the last leadership

:55:00. > :55:04.election campaign. But party members will have the choice. Neil Hamilton,

:55:05. > :55:08.thank you. Quickly, Simon Ashwood, what will happen with the leadership

:55:09. > :55:12.campaign, is it clear what the time frame would be? We do not have a

:55:13. > :55:15.timetable on a new election, I think they will want to do it quickly

:55:16. > :55:19.because they will want stability back in the party. It will partly

:55:20. > :55:25.depend on this inquiry and how long it takes and what the outcome is,

:55:26. > :55:28.but I think we will have something sorted by Christmas, for the time

:55:29. > :55:33.being at least. Thank you very much Simon Ashwood and Neil Hamilton.

:55:34. > :55:41.Coming up, we will have the latest on Hurricane Matthew and Kylie

:55:42. > :55:45.Minogue 's fiance talking about why the couple will not marry until

:55:46. > :55:49.same-sex marriages are legalised in Australia. How can I be part of a

:55:50. > :55:53.campaign like this and then go and get married? It is not right, it is

:55:54. > :55:59.not fair, and it should be fair, it should all be there, and that start

:56:00. > :56:03.at home, change starts at home. Stay with us for that interview a

:56:04. > :56:04.little bit later. Now, a weather update with Matt and the latest in

:56:05. > :56:14.particular on the hurricane. Yes, it is still off the coast of

:56:15. > :56:18.Florida. Our weather, in contrast, completely quiet. The heat at the

:56:19. > :56:23.start of the month has gone away. Let me show you this stunning

:56:24. > :56:27.weather Watch is shot from Moray this morning. Little shards of Prost

:56:28. > :56:31.on the grass, a lovely sunny start but the indication that the air has

:56:32. > :56:37.got colder and more of us will wake up to Prost over the next few days.

:56:38. > :56:40.Saying that, for most it is a completely different story, so some

:56:41. > :56:44.grey skies as well not just today but through the weekend. Called by

:56:45. > :56:48.day, not too bad by night, get the frost to pay for it.

:56:49. > :56:52.Let's deal with what is happening out there at the moment, high

:56:53. > :56:55.pressure in charge across Scandinavia keeping bees rain

:56:56. > :56:59.bearing weather front add to the west at the moment, but it has

:57:00. > :57:03.bought in huge amounts of cloud, Lang gives of cloud across much of

:57:04. > :57:07.the UK. Fairly difficult to find the sunshine at the moment, a few

:57:08. > :57:11.glimpses out to the west of Cornwall, Devon, western parts of

:57:12. > :57:17.Wales through the West of -- the rest of the day. Pretty damp here

:57:18. > :57:20.and there, particularly northward through the North Midlands,

:57:21. > :57:23.Lancashire, the Isle of Man, eastern parts of Northern Ireland as well.

:57:24. > :57:30.The manner in the sunshine but plenty of cloud at least until

:57:31. > :57:34.lunchtime for the rest. There will be a few more breaks in the cloud

:57:35. > :57:38.appearing in north-west England, the West of Northern Ireland, western

:57:39. > :57:42.Wales through this afternoon. The wind is lighter than yesterday, it

:57:43. > :57:46.might not feel too unpleasant but elsewhere a rather cool feeling day,

:57:47. > :57:52.even if the wind has eased somewhat. Easterly weather dominates tonight,

:57:53. > :57:54.areas of thick cloud, one or two showers in eastern England

:57:55. > :57:59.especially, particularly towards East Anglia and the south-east

:58:00. > :58:02.detente. Most will have a dry night and with some clear skies in the

:58:03. > :58:05.north and west, this is away from the towns and cities, and

:58:06. > :58:09.temperatures will drop and there could be Prost and Bob into the

:58:10. > :58:14.morning. What is driving this settled weather? The high pressure

:58:15. > :58:18.across Scandinavia, we are on the wrong side of it, dragging out from

:58:19. > :58:21.the north-east, it is a fairly cool flow which continues into this

:58:22. > :58:27.weekend but at least the wind gets lighter. A lovely day in store,

:58:28. > :58:33.cloud at times across England and Wales, not as much as today, one or

:58:34. > :58:36.two showers in East Anglia and the south-east, particularly the

:58:37. > :58:40.Suffolk, Essex and Kent, some heavy ones in the afternoon. Lighter

:58:41. > :58:45.winds, a bit more sunshine, so it will feel quite pleasant. Little

:58:46. > :58:50.changes into Sunday, showers limited in the south-east corner, most fine,

:58:51. > :58:52.dry, sunny spells as day chilly and frosty start. A quick update on

:58:53. > :59:14.Hurricane Matthew, here it is to the east rain band swirling around,

:59:15. > :59:17.the strongest and at the moment offshore so I think we will be

:59:18. > :59:20.spared the worst of the wind across the Florida coast if that stays

:59:21. > :59:22.offshore, but we will see a huge storm surge and torrential rain

:59:23. > :59:24.storms and flooding from Central Florida to Georgia over the next 24

:59:25. > :59:28.hours. Updates through the day on the News Channel.

:59:29. > :59:33.Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

:59:34. > :59:36.Ukip says Steven Woolfe won't be calling the police

:59:37. > :59:38.after an altercation with a colleague left him

:59:39. > :59:41.in hospital - instead he's admitted things went too far and has reached

:59:42. > :59:43.out the hand of friendship to Mike Hookem

:59:44. > :59:47.Stephen has this morning reached out the hand of friendship to Mr Hookem,

:59:48. > :59:48.the mike. He has realised that things did go too far.

:59:49. > :59:50.Doctors warn of the dangers of parents using alternative

:59:51. > :59:52.medicines on children with autism, after a four-year-old boy

:59:53. > :59:55.is hospitalised after being given bath salts in an attempt

:59:56. > :00:00.We have an exclusive interview with Kylie Minogue's

:00:01. > :00:02.fiance Joshua Sasse, who says they refuse to marry

:00:03. > :00:14.until same sex-unions are legalised in Australia.

:00:15. > :00:19.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:00:20. > :00:23.More than 300 people are known to have died in Haiti as a result

:00:24. > :00:25.Ukip's Steven Woolfe has told reporters he was punched

:00:26. > :00:28.by a colleague after a meeting of his party's MEPs.

:00:29. > :00:30.The Ukip leadership hopeful was taken to hospital

:00:31. > :00:32.after he collapsed at the European Parliament yesterday.

:00:33. > :00:34.He told the Daily Mail that his colleague Mike Hookem came

:00:35. > :00:48.A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied he had been involved in a fight.

:00:49. > :00:50.Mr Woolfe's friend, the MEP Nathan Gill,

:00:51. > :00:52.has just given a statement - he said that Steven Woolfe

:00:53. > :00:55.is in good spirits and is trying to put the incident behind him.

:00:56. > :01:03.Stephen has this morning reached out a hand of friendship to Mr Hookem,

:01:04. > :01:12.to Mike. He has realised that things did go so far -- too far. He has

:01:13. > :01:17.made moves forward for keeping us all as a band of friends. I also

:01:18. > :01:25.want to point out the fact that there are people back in the UK who

:01:26. > :01:30.are speculating about what has been happening both in the MEP meeting

:01:31. > :01:35.and also here in the hospital with Stephen's health. Now, that does

:01:36. > :01:41.need to stop. Let's talk to our Political Correspondent Alex Waller

:01:42. > :01:46.boast who is in hospital. -- Alex Forsyth. Nathan Gill said Ukip are a

:01:47. > :01:53.bit Teflon. Is this going to be good enough in terms of the credibility

:01:54. > :02:00.of the party, are they going to move on from this without any further

:02:01. > :02:04.investigation. This undoubtedly has caused further damage to Ukip's

:02:05. > :02:09.reputation, the question of its credibility as a party, when you

:02:10. > :02:13.hear about MEPs allegedly fighting in the European Parliament, one of

:02:14. > :02:16.the party's major donors, Aaron Banks, said that the party is at

:02:17. > :02:20.breaking point. Nathan Gill said today that they are Teflon. We know

:02:21. > :02:23.that Ukip have been through similar things in the path that could have

:02:24. > :02:33.caused reputational damage and yet they still won 4 million votes at

:02:34. > :02:36.the election, it doesn't seem to have dented their reputation. You

:02:37. > :02:42.get the sense they are trying to calm this down after the past 24, 48

:02:43. > :02:47.hours, they have been tumultuous. We had the unexpected resignation of

:02:48. > :02:53.the leader, Nigel Farage reappointed as the interim leader, Nathan Gill

:02:54. > :03:02.saying we need to stop speculating about what has happened, Steven

:03:03. > :03:06.Woolfe has reached out to the other MEP allegedly involved, Mike Hookem.

:03:07. > :03:09.Steven Woolfe said he does not want the police involved. You get the

:03:10. > :03:16.sense they are trying to calm this down and move on. News coming again

:03:17. > :03:20.in the last few moments. The Nobel committee has announced that the

:03:21. > :03:24.Colombian president, Hookem, has been awarded this

:03:25. > :03:35.the Colombian president, Juan Manuel Santos, has been awarded the Nobel

:03:36. > :03:41.Peace Prize for his effort to bring the Civil War in that country to an

:03:42. > :03:44.end. The Colombian president, Juan Manuel Santos, announced as the

:03:45. > :03:48.winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

:03:49. > :03:51.More than 300 people are known to have died in Haiti as a result

:03:52. > :03:55.The most powerful storm to threaten the US Atlantic coast for 12 years

:03:56. > :03:59.Around 2 million people living along the south-east coast of America have

:04:00. > :04:07.The governor of Florida, Rick Scott, has declared a state of emergency as

:04:08. > :04:09.the weather worsens. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has

:04:10. > :04:12.started reshuffling his cabinet, but critics have suggested he's

:04:13. > :04:14.already failed in his promise to unite the parliamentary party.

:04:15. > :04:17.One of Mr Corbyn's closest allies, Diane Abbott, has been promoted

:04:18. > :04:19.to Shadow Home Secretary - a position she says she's

:04:20. > :04:21.honoured to have. And the former civil liberties

:04:22. > :04:23.campaigner Shami Chakrabarti, who was recently made a Labour peer

:04:24. > :04:27.after her review into anti-Semitism in the party, joins the top team

:04:28. > :04:35.as Shadow Attorney General. Doctors have warned of the dangers

:04:36. > :04:37.of giving children complementary therapies, after a four-year-old boy

:04:38. > :04:39.ended up in A He had been taking 12 different

:04:40. > :04:41.holistic supplements - including vitamin D

:04:42. > :04:43.and camel's milk - He developed a potentially fatal

:04:44. > :04:49.condition, but made a full recovery. Writing in the British Medical

:04:50. > :04:51.Journal, clinicians from St Bartholomew's Hospital

:04:52. > :04:55.in London said it should be "routine practice" to ask whether

:04:56. > :04:56.patients are taking any That's a summary of

:04:57. > :05:07.the latest BBC News. Do get in touch with us

:05:08. > :05:14.throughout the morning. If you text, you will be charged

:05:15. > :05:28.at the standard network rate. I will be interviewing Howard Gayle

:05:29. > :05:34.shortly, the first black Liverpool player on the pitch. He went out on

:05:35. > :05:39.the pitch for the first time in the early 80s. I will be talking to him

:05:40. > :05:41.about his life, his experience on and off the pitch, and also why he

:05:42. > :05:43.turned down an MBE in the summer. Here's some sport now, and Hugh,

:05:44. > :05:52.you have a very special guest Good morning, Joanne. We are taking

:05:53. > :05:56.a look back at the Paralympics and talking about women's sport this

:05:57. > :06:01.morning. It is actually women's sport week 2016, and we are lucky

:06:02. > :06:05.enough to be joined by the five-time Paralympic gold medallist Hannah

:06:06. > :06:09.Cockroft. Fantastic to have you with us. What has it been like in the

:06:10. > :06:14.last few months for you, with Rio, the build-up, your fantastic

:06:15. > :06:17.performance, when you came home, was it similar all very different to

:06:18. > :06:22.London 2012? It has been very different. London was my first

:06:23. > :06:27.Games, I had no idea what to expect, I just went with it. The build-up to

:06:28. > :06:30.Rio, going for two new events, the training was a lot different,

:06:31. > :06:34.getting out there, the preparations was a lot different. It's just been

:06:35. > :06:40.really busy since I got back, to be honest. I dust haven't really

:06:41. > :06:45.stopped, but it has been great. It is women's sport week. How important

:06:46. > :06:49.is it for you, do you feel, to have this in the calendar and that we

:06:50. > :06:53.discuss issues around women's sport? A think it's really important. You

:06:54. > :07:00.know, the quality has got a lot better but it has still got a long

:07:01. > :07:04.way to go. Especially as a disabled woman, we are kind of bottom of the

:07:05. > :07:08.roster right now. We need to put ourselves out there, say, we are

:07:09. > :07:12.still training hard, we're still here, where not just going to

:07:13. > :07:16.disappear for four years and come back in 2020. That is a really

:07:17. > :07:20.important message, to get more people involved. You took part in

:07:21. > :07:24.our BBC body talk session in Liverpool yesterday. What was it

:07:25. > :07:33.like meeting of athletes and young girls discussing issues around

:07:34. > :07:36.positivity of the female form? It was really interesting, for me, just

:07:37. > :07:39.to hear that maybe you don't always talk about the issues that you have

:07:40. > :07:41.with your soul. To go there and hear that maybe other women's have the

:07:42. > :07:44.same problems, the same thoughts and ideas -- the issues you have with

:07:45. > :07:49.yourself. It means if we can talk one-on-one about it, it needs to be

:07:50. > :07:54.said to all women and to be told that actually, whoever you are, you

:07:55. > :07:58.are OK with that. We heard this week from Sarah Storey and Laura Kenny

:07:59. > :08:03.talking about inequalities in their sports. You mentioned it there. What

:08:04. > :08:07.do you feel can be done to bring women's sport level with men's sport

:08:08. > :08:12.from your perspective? I think right now it's about raising participation

:08:13. > :08:16.numbers. If we're still seen as any of our sport is being seen as not

:08:17. > :08:20.many people competing in that, then they are not really going to get the

:08:21. > :08:24.crowds or the sponsorship. So many things are tied in with it. We

:08:25. > :08:28.really need to get it out there and, for me, make wheelchair racing more

:08:29. > :08:32.accessible for women across the country. Thank you very much for

:08:33. > :08:36.joining us. If you want to get involved in women's sports week,

:08:37. > :08:39.there is more coverage on TV, radio and online. Look up the hashtag BBC

:08:40. > :08:41.body talk as well. Despite most people thinking

:08:42. > :08:43.John Barnes was Liverpool's first black footballer,

:08:44. > :08:45.it was Howard Gayle who was actually When the young Liverpudlian took

:08:46. > :08:50.to the pitch in his dream job, he experienced extreme racism

:08:51. > :08:53.from both players and fans. It's something that led Howard

:08:54. > :08:56.to become a prominent anti-racism Earlier this year he was offered

:08:57. > :09:03.an MBE for his work, but turned it down immediately,

:09:04. > :09:09.saying it went against his values. I'm very pleased to say that Howard

:09:10. > :09:13.is with us. Well, now Howard has a book out

:09:14. > :09:20.about his life and he's with us Thank you very much for coming in

:09:21. > :09:24.and talking to us. When you first went out onto the pitch in a red

:09:25. > :09:34.shirt for the full in 1980, did you see your race is a big deal as part

:09:35. > :09:38.of that? Well, no, not really, as I say, I was able to deliver a

:09:39. > :09:42.childhood dream. I used to go to bed most nights dreaming about playing

:09:43. > :09:48.for a club like Liverpool, which I supported. And I never thought that

:09:49. > :09:54.it would be, in my lifetime, I never thought that it would happen to me.

:09:55. > :10:01.And when it did, the game, as I say, it was a moment which I was ever so

:10:02. > :10:07.proud of, as an achievement for, well, my own well-being, but I never

:10:08. > :10:13.really looked at the point of race on the being the first black player.

:10:14. > :10:16.It was as I got closer to the first team that the media started to take

:10:17. > :10:24.attention to the achievement that I was about to make. And back then, in

:10:25. > :10:28.the late 70s, early 80s, again, race was starting to play a major part in

:10:29. > :10:36.sport, and people were starting to focus a lot more on it. So when it

:10:37. > :10:41.was an issue for others, and obviously it eventually became an

:10:42. > :10:44.issue for you. How did that change? Did it change your perception of

:10:45. > :10:47.what you were doing, not just being able to get on with the game of

:10:48. > :10:53.football, there was another dimension? No, not really, again, I

:10:54. > :11:01.always said you had to play with the cards you've been dealt. Back in the

:11:02. > :11:08.60s and 70s, racist chance on the terraces were read, and think. It

:11:09. > :11:13.happened most weeks. -- racist chants on the terraces were a common

:11:14. > :11:16.thing. I never see much racism and the Liverpool fans, because they

:11:17. > :11:21.recognise that I've been a supporter and followed the club both home and

:11:22. > :11:27.away since I was a boy. Most of them knew me, anyway. When I got to play

:11:28. > :11:35.football and to play for Liverpool and also for other clubs, I played

:11:36. > :11:38.in the European semifinal in Munich where 60,000 Germans, it was a

:11:39. > :11:43.crescendo of monkey chance as soon as I got near the pitch. For me,

:11:44. > :11:48.something like that was something that inspired me. And I've always

:11:49. > :11:54.had a thought process and a mentality that the racists would

:11:55. > :11:58.never, ever win. The only way to silence them would be to play well,

:11:59. > :12:03.to do well, and to contribute to my team. That takes huge internal

:12:04. > :12:07.strength in every way, mental strength, to go out and see that as

:12:08. > :12:12.something that would inspire you. Yeah, well, I'm fortunate that I've

:12:13. > :12:18.got a really good family around me for most of my life. And I've had

:12:19. > :12:26.two brothers and a sister who's been really supportive of me. I tried to

:12:27. > :12:29.keep a lot of the racism growing up in school from my parents because I

:12:30. > :12:38.knew that it would have been upsetting to my mother, and my

:12:39. > :12:42.father was a man of discipline, a disciplinarian, old school, his

:12:43. > :12:46.answer would have been, well, stay in, and that would have meant that I

:12:47. > :12:51.wouldn't have been able to play football. I tried to keep as much of

:12:52. > :12:58.it from my parents as I could. But obviously again it was playing a

:12:59. > :13:02.major role in everyday life, some of the abuse and the things that I had

:13:03. > :13:07.to endure. But also again, some of the things that I had to do to stop

:13:08. > :13:13.it. They were things that I wasn't comfortable with, but as I say,

:13:14. > :13:17.there was no complaints system then, there was nobody you could go to,

:13:18. > :13:22.whereas nowadays obviously racism is a criminal offence.

:13:23. > :13:28.You have been instrumental in helping to change attitudes, working

:13:29. > :13:35.to educate people, and for the work that you have done you were offered

:13:36. > :13:40.an MBE. You said no, why? As the terminology is, it is a member of

:13:41. > :13:44.the British Empire, and obviously my ancestors were born out of Africa

:13:45. > :13:54.and the West Indies, and I'm well aware of the history of what the

:13:55. > :14:02.Empire did and over 100 million Africans never made the

:14:03. > :14:05.transatlantic journey, they were thrown into the sea, and some of the

:14:06. > :14:13.appalling things that happen to my ancestors, it would have been kind

:14:14. > :14:18.of a kick in the teeth to the memory of those Africans. So you had no

:14:19. > :14:22.qualms in saying no, an instant reaction? No, it was a decision made

:14:23. > :14:27.by me, I was possibly always aware, because of the work that I did, that

:14:28. > :14:31.there may be a time when I was going to be offered an award like this,

:14:32. > :14:39.and I made a conscious decision in my own mind, if I did, that the

:14:40. > :14:45.answer was going to be a refusal. This was my decision. Other people

:14:46. > :14:52.have chosen to accept the MBE, the CBE, the OBE, that is their

:14:53. > :14:56.decision, but mine on reflection was that I could not accept it. Do you

:14:57. > :15:07.think it is time for the system to be changed? I think if it wants to

:15:08. > :15:14.include black people then, again, my decision has invoked debate amongst

:15:15. > :15:17.all quarters, I have had a lot of positive response on my decision

:15:18. > :15:24.from all quarters of the world and from all different races as well.

:15:25. > :15:31.Maybe it is something that could be looked at in the future, but I think

:15:32. > :15:36.now again it has come too late for me, and I'm recognised by the work

:15:37. > :15:42.that I do within football and within my own community. That is enough for

:15:43. > :15:46.me. Sydney on e-mail, lots of respect for Howard Gayle for turning

:15:47. > :15:50.down the MBE, it is called having principles and integrity. Caroline

:15:51. > :15:55.on e-mail, it has puzzled me why the term Empire has not been replaced, I

:15:56. > :15:58.have thought of writing to Olympic medallist and suggesting that they

:15:59. > :16:01.insist it be changed to Commonwealth, for example.

:16:02. > :16:07.Are they typical of the reactions? Yes, and, as I say, other people

:16:08. > :16:16.have different views to those tweets or e-mails, but the vast majority

:16:17. > :16:21.have agreed with the statement and baby for the future the debate

:16:22. > :16:25.should be, the decision on whether you are eligible for some sort of

:16:26. > :16:32.award should come from the field which you work in rather than the

:16:33. > :16:37.community, and I have had a number of accolades and thanks given from

:16:38. > :16:43.the people within Liverpool and around the country where I have done

:16:44. > :16:45.my work for Show Racism The Red Card and Kick It Out. Thank you so much

:16:46. > :16:47.for coming in. 61 Minutes In Munich: The Story

:16:48. > :16:58.of Liverpool's First Black Still to come: More than 800,000

:16:59. > :17:01.people in the UK are thought to have a condition which makes them pull

:17:02. > :17:06.out of their own hair. We speak to one clinic which tells us the NHS is

:17:07. > :17:07.not taking it seriously, and a woman who has suffered with it since she

:17:08. > :17:09.was ten. A four-year-old boy ended up

:17:10. > :17:12.in hospital after he was given a variety of so-called alternative

:17:13. > :17:14.medicines, including bath salts, It sounds like something

:17:15. > :17:19.from Victorian times, doesn't it? The boy made a full recovery,

:17:20. > :17:22.but the case has led doctors to warn of the dangers of giving children

:17:23. > :17:26.complementary therapies. They're concerned about the number

:17:27. > :17:29.of people turning to alternative therapies try to cure

:17:30. > :17:32.conditions like autism. They warn that even so-called

:17:33. > :17:39.natural substances can cause death. We can get into this a bit more

:17:40. > :17:43.now with Matt Davis, who blogs about having

:17:44. > :17:48.a child with autism. who's the Head of Policy

:17:49. > :17:51.at the National Autistic Society, and Emma Dalmayne, who is autistic

:17:52. > :17:58.herself and investigates Thank you all for joining us. Sarah,

:17:59. > :18:05.have you heard anything like this before? This case was an awful case,

:18:06. > :18:10.obviously. The parents in this case were looking for help and went to a

:18:11. > :18:16.particular therapist who recommended these supplements, and what is

:18:17. > :18:19.really important which we think at the National Autistic Society is the

:18:20. > :18:22.parents need to come to us at our website and really find out what it

:18:23. > :18:25.is that can help their children and make sure they get the right advice

:18:26. > :18:29.and support, and they should not be taking supplements or medicines

:18:30. > :18:34.without advice from medical professionals. Can supplement ever

:18:35. > :18:39.help anyone with autism? No, they can't. We all take some supplements,

:18:40. > :18:43.lots of people take vitamins and supplements, but in this case the

:18:44. > :18:47.child was taking quite a lot of calcium, which would be harmful to

:18:48. > :18:52.anyone, and clearly was not helpful for this child's autism, so it is

:18:53. > :18:55.really, really important that parents talk to medical

:18:56. > :18:58.professionals and get that advice as soon as possible and as early as

:18:59. > :19:01.possible so that they don't give their children things that can be

:19:02. > :19:06.harmful to them and simply won't make any difference and will not

:19:07. > :19:13.work. Autism is not a disease, it cannot be cured, and so parents, in

:19:14. > :19:17.the run-up to diagnosis and post diagnosis, they can feel quite

:19:18. > :19:21.desperate because very few people really know about autism, until they

:19:22. > :19:24.have a family member who is on the autism spectrum, and they can be

:19:25. > :19:29.desperately looking for things that can help. You have got an autistic

:19:30. > :19:34.son, Isaac. What was it like for you when you had the diagnosis? Were you

:19:35. > :19:41.ever tempted by alternative therapies? Never, whatsoever. This

:19:42. > :19:44.is a devastating, upsetting case. It was a year between noticing a

:19:45. > :19:48.typical behaviours with Isaac and diagnosis, and when you get

:19:49. > :19:53.diagnosed there is really a sense of relief, that the symptoms he was

:19:54. > :19:58.shivering actually have a cause and description. A But there is a sense

:19:59. > :20:05.of relief, there is obviously a nervousness and one in 100 people

:20:06. > :20:08.have autism so statistically you will not know that many people so

:20:09. > :20:16.you need the support and you need that because there is a lack of

:20:17. > :20:20.predictability about the future, but there is lots of intervention you

:20:21. > :20:24.can access it be have the right support, and autism is something to

:20:25. > :20:27.live with, not against. Do you understand the vulnerability that

:20:28. > :20:31.Sarah was describing that people feel when they are caught up in

:20:32. > :20:35.something they don't understand and want to fix it? I do, it is a

:20:36. > :20:38.difficult situation because just the smallest level of education that one

:20:39. > :20:45.would hope a paediatrician would give would rule out these quack

:20:46. > :20:48.therapies immediately. These people prey on confused, vulnerable

:20:49. > :20:53.parents. If you have got absolutely no support around you and you cannot

:20:54. > :20:58.access systems, then maybe people would turn to them. But they are

:20:59. > :21:03.dangerous and they have no benefit whatsoever. Emma, you are autistic

:21:04. > :21:07.and you do your own undercover investigations into illegal autism

:21:08. > :21:12.therapies. What was it that first alerted you to what was happening? I

:21:13. > :21:15.opened a Facebook support group for autistic adults and parents of

:21:16. > :21:21.autistic children and that is how I found out about groups who give

:21:22. > :21:24.their children things like chlorine dioxide bleached... Lets not talk

:21:25. > :21:29.about specifics because those organisations are not here to defend

:21:30. > :21:33.themselves, but we can talk more generally about the issues you

:21:34. > :21:38.became aware of? Parents are using unregulated and scientifically

:21:39. > :21:41.proved treatment to cure children of autism, which cannot be cured

:21:42. > :21:45.because it is a neurological difference, it will not go away.

:21:46. > :21:52.Obviously people out there do think something like this will help. There

:21:53. > :21:57.are, yes, and it needs to be made illegal to do this to your child. It

:21:58. > :22:02.should not be allowed. Sarah, what do you think about making it

:22:03. > :22:06.illegal? What was useful about the report that came out from the BMJ

:22:07. > :22:11.was medical professionals recommending that what needs to

:22:12. > :22:15.happen is that those professionals in contact with families of children

:22:16. > :22:19.with autism are able to give them the right information as soon as

:22:20. > :22:23.possible to prevent this happening. It is important that people can get

:22:24. > :22:29.the right advice. We did a survey a couple of years ago that showed just

:22:30. > :22:32.28% of families said they got good advice and support post diagnosis so

:22:33. > :22:36.there is a massive gap between people getting diagnosed and knowing

:22:37. > :22:39.what they should be doing next. The thing is, these parents are not

:22:40. > :22:44.going to take the advice because they believe that autism needs to be

:22:45. > :22:50.cured, so they are taking these alternative routes. This little boy

:22:51. > :22:53.was given diet pills and camel's milk and so many other unregulated

:22:54. > :22:58.product he should not have been on because his parents wanted to cure

:22:59. > :23:02.his autism. It is child abuse, it needs to be stopped. One of the

:23:03. > :23:07.things in the report that came out was a high level of calcium

:23:08. > :23:11.supplements, and lots of people take supplements for lots of different

:23:12. > :23:15.types of things, and it seems like they would be benign and not

:23:16. > :23:23.harmful, but the level of calcium he was given was really harmful. There

:23:24. > :23:27.is something about alternative medicine and some of these types of

:23:28. > :23:31.things that parents wouldn't think of as actually being able to harm

:23:32. > :23:36.their child, and I think in the case report... Sorry to interrupt, but

:23:37. > :23:40.what isn't being told is this child was vomiting, he was very sick for

:23:41. > :23:43.three weeks, he had kidney failure for three weeks and he was watched

:23:44. > :23:50.like that and his mother did not take into the doctors. Are told that

:23:51. > :23:53.it is the autism leaving so to keep it up because the more sick they

:23:54. > :23:57.get, the more the autism is leaving, and that is what she did, and that

:23:58. > :24:02.is what needs to be looked at. These parents are not educated enough.

:24:03. > :24:05.That is exactly the problem and I think the legal argument might be a

:24:06. > :24:11.red herring in the whole thing. The education is absolutely critical.

:24:12. > :24:16.Organisations like NAS are brilliant with this. They are great but they

:24:17. > :24:22.need to back me up for legislation. You obviously feel strongly about

:24:23. > :24:26.this. Very as an autistic person watching them being experimented on.

:24:27. > :24:29.Do you come across parents when you are blogging who have the

:24:30. > :24:38.perspective that supplements might help? The odd one. The vast majority

:24:39. > :24:44.support my view. Can you engage in a discussion? It often becomes

:24:45. > :24:50.trolling, Twitter nonsense, if you are not careful. My wife is a strong

:24:51. > :24:54.voice within the autism community and we should it down immediately

:24:55. > :25:00.and say there is no substance whatsoever, it is not a condition to

:25:01. > :25:06.be cured, they are dangerous things, but I think it is just about

:25:07. > :25:11.education, right from the point of diagnosis, through all the joined up

:25:12. > :25:17.services within education, people need that foundation because no-one

:25:18. > :25:20.of any respect and repute would recommend them. Elisabeth on

:25:21. > :25:24.Facebook has got in touch to say, when my son was diagnosed with

:25:25. > :25:27.autism I asked the paediatrician about alternative therapies and

:25:28. > :25:30.medicine and she gave me the best advice ever which was that there are

:25:31. > :25:34.people out there happy to take money from vulnerable families trying to

:25:35. > :25:39.help their children. Eight years on I can see this is sadly true. That

:25:40. > :25:43.is the thing, parents presumably do it because they think it is the

:25:44. > :25:48.right thing, they do not want to harm their children? I think so. I

:25:49. > :25:52.would have thought so too, but the minute you see your child getting

:25:53. > :25:59.sick, you take them to the doctors! So many cases I am seeing. From my

:26:00. > :26:04.perspective as a parent, I have been lucky to have a strong wife, we

:26:05. > :26:12.lived in an area where they champion Isaac. It is not easy to access the

:26:13. > :26:16.services, we are in Brent... I have five children, several on the

:26:17. > :26:24.spectrum. I understand what you are saying, you are and informed,

:26:25. > :26:31.educated person, but some parents are desperate. But some parents see

:26:32. > :26:35.their child's developing completely atypically, they might be one parent

:26:36. > :26:39.families, they might have family and friends who normalise the behaviour

:26:40. > :26:44.or don't understand autism, and like anything it is not that it is not

:26:45. > :26:49.cancer or any other treatment, you can be thrown into utter chaos in

:26:50. > :26:55.your life and people are preying on you, and it is a situation... I am

:26:56. > :27:00.more worried about the children. The children are right at the heart of

:27:01. > :27:04.it. The child is literally given the treatment. The best way to prevent

:27:05. > :27:08.that is making sure the parents understand it is not the way and

:27:09. > :27:13.alongside that we need to make sure the services are in place. That is

:27:14. > :27:18.what I am saying. Thank you very much, Sarah, Matt and Emma, thank

:27:19. > :27:21.you very much. Still to come, Kylie Minogue's

:27:22. > :27:25.fiance talks to us exclusively about where the couple will not get

:27:26. > :27:30.married until same-sex unions are legalised in Australia. Also, the

:27:31. > :27:35.Bazaar, creepy clown craze which started in the United States and now

:27:36. > :27:36.seems to be happening over here. Police are warning pranksters they

:27:37. > :27:38.could face arrest. With the News, here's Annita

:27:39. > :27:43.in the BBC Newsroom. Ukip's Steven Woolfe will remain

:27:44. > :27:47.under observation for another 48 hours after he collapsed

:27:48. > :27:49.at the European The Ukip leadership hopeful has told

:27:50. > :27:53.reporters he was punched by a colleague after a meeting

:27:54. > :27:56.of his party's MEPs. He told the Daily Mail

:27:57. > :27:58.that his colleague Mike Hookem came A spokesman for Mr Hookem denied

:27:59. > :28:04.he had been involved in a fight. Mr Woolfe's friend,

:28:05. > :28:07.the MEP Nathan Gill, He said that Steven Woolfe

:28:08. > :28:25.is in good spirits, and is trying He has realised that things did go

:28:26. > :28:31.too far in the MEP meeting. So he has made moves forward for keeping

:28:32. > :28:38.us all as a band of friends. And I also want the point out the fact

:28:39. > :28:43.that there are people back in the UK who are speculating about what has

:28:44. > :28:47.been happening, both in the MEP meeting, and also here in the

:28:48. > :28:53.hospital with Stephen's health. Now, that does need to stop. Nathan Gill.

:28:54. > :28:55.The Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos has won

:28:56. > :28:59.The Norwegian Nobel Committee said the award was given for his resolute

:29:00. > :29:01.efforts to bring Colombia's more than 50-year-long

:29:02. > :29:04.The deal failed when Colombians narrowly rejected the deal

:29:05. > :29:10.Hurricane Matthew, the most powerful storm to threaten the US

:29:11. > :29:12.Atlantic coast for 12 years, is now moving towards Florida.

:29:13. > :29:17.Officials in Haiti say more than 300 people there have been killed.

:29:18. > :29:21.And in the US, around 2 million people living along the south-east

:29:22. > :29:23.coast have been urged to move inland.

:29:24. > :29:26.Rick Scott, the Governor of Florida, has declared a State of Emergency

:29:27. > :29:32.The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has started reshuffling his cabinet,

:29:33. > :29:34.but critics have suggested he's already failed in his promise

:29:35. > :29:39.to unite the parliamentary party. One of Mr Corbyn's closest allies,

:29:40. > :29:41.Diane Abbott, has been promoted to Shadow Home Secretary -

:29:42. > :29:45.a position she says she's honoured to have.

:29:46. > :29:48.And the former civil liberties campaigner Shami Chakrabarti,

:29:49. > :29:50.who was recently made a Labour peer after her review into anti-Semitism

:29:51. > :29:58.in the party, joins the top team as Shadow Attorney General.

:29:59. > :30:00.Doctors have warned of the dangers of giving children complementary

:30:01. > :30:03.therapies, after a four-year-old boy ended up in A

:30:04. > :30:06.He had been taking 12 different holistic supplements -

:30:07. > :30:08.including vitamin D and camel's milk -

:30:09. > :30:13.He developed a potentially fatal condition, but made a full recovery.

:30:14. > :30:17.Writing in the British Medical Journal, clinicians

:30:18. > :30:20.from St Bartholomew's Hospital in London said it should be "routine

:30:21. > :30:22.practice" to ask whether patients are taking any

:30:23. > :30:34.Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11am.

:30:35. > :30:40.Here's some sport now, with Hugh Woozencroft.

:30:41. > :30:46.Good morning. England have lost three wickets after they won back

:30:47. > :30:52.the toss and chose to bat in their first one-day international against

:30:53. > :30:57.Bangladesh. Jason Roy will be frustrated, he fell for 41. Jonny

:30:58. > :31:03.Bairstow out for a duck as well. England now 68-3 in the 14th over in

:31:04. > :31:09.back. Andy Murray is playing Kyle Edmund for just the second time. It

:31:10. > :31:14.is the quarterfinal of China open. Lewis Hamilton's hopes of getting

:31:15. > :31:19.his championship challenge back on track have suffered a blow. Nico

:31:20. > :31:23.Rosberg topped the time sheets in both practice sessions ahead of

:31:24. > :31:28.Sunday's Grand Prix. The Welsh manager Chris Coleman described

:31:29. > :31:35.their World Cup qualifying draw as a point gained. Goals from Marko

:31:36. > :31:39.Arnautovic meant it finished 2-2. That's all the sport for now, I will

:31:40. > :31:43.be back with more on BBC news throughout the day. Thank you, Hugh.

:31:44. > :31:46.More than 800,000 people in the UK are thought to have a condition

:31:47. > :31:48.which makes them pull out their own hair.

:31:49. > :31:50.It's known as trichotillomania, and it is a compulsive anxiety disorder.

:31:51. > :31:53.People who suffer from it say pulling out their hair

:31:54. > :31:55.gives them a fleeting but intense sense of release,

:31:56. > :31:57.but it can leave you almost completely bald.

:31:58. > :32:00.Reality star Sam Faiers and US actress Olivia Munn are among

:32:01. > :32:01.those who say they've pulled out their hair

:32:02. > :32:08.But some sufferers and hair loss clinics say the condition is not

:32:09. > :32:11.being taken seriously enough by the NHS.

:32:12. > :32:13.Lucinda Ellery is a hair loss consultant with concerns about how

:32:14. > :32:19.Charlotte Suggett started pulling out her hair when she was 10.

:32:20. > :32:30.And Neomie Da Costa runs Trichotillomania Support -

:32:31. > :32:35.a group which provides therapy for sufferers.

:32:36. > :32:41.I mean, obviously it is not a laughing matter, it is just not a

:32:42. > :32:48.word that we are familiar with because it is not something people

:32:49. > :32:54.know much about. The definition is an irresistible urge to pull out

:32:55. > :33:01.your hair. To gain a sense of calm, if you like, sometimes in a medic to

:33:02. > :33:05.state. According to Professor John Grant, there are 100 million people

:33:06. > :33:09.worldwide who have to manage this situation -- sometimes in a

:33:10. > :33:12.meditative state. Education is very important, because I've been doing

:33:13. > :33:16.it for such a long time, girls back in the date would go to the doctors

:33:17. > :33:20.and have never heard of it, let alone be able to say it was ballot.

:33:21. > :33:29.Presumably they would have thought they would be only person who had

:33:30. > :33:34.it. -- sell spell it or say it. There was nothing on the internet

:33:35. > :33:39.for a long, long time. Charlie, you started pulling your hair out when

:33:40. > :33:43.you were ten. Were you doing it consciously? Do you remember when

:33:44. > :33:47.you started and why? I was never able to pinpoint exactly when, a lot

:33:48. > :33:52.of it was denial, I wasn't really aware of it. When I was that age, I

:33:53. > :33:56.lost my dad to cancer, I think that triggered it. It was overwhelming,

:33:57. > :34:00.you've got a lot of other things to deal with. I noticed that the bits

:34:01. > :34:06.but chose not to pay attention to it, not to deal with it. Was at an

:34:07. > :34:12.absent-minded think? Did it hurt? That's the thing, it does hurt a

:34:13. > :34:16.bit, but it is a release, it is a comfort, it feels good to pull it

:34:17. > :34:19.out, that is the problem. It is like a release that makes you feel

:34:20. > :34:23.better. I do it more if I'm stressed. If I get anxious thought

:34:24. > :34:28.nowadays, Mike hand goes up to my head, I will play, you seek a hat

:34:29. > :34:32.which feels like a good one, it sounds very old, but... You're

:34:33. > :34:36.running your hands through parts of your hair, and you miss out little

:34:37. > :34:41.bits, you find a section that you know will feel good to pull out. You

:34:42. > :34:45.might get a good route, maybe. And it's just a comfort thing, it makes

:34:46. > :34:52.you feel better about the situation to deal with the time. And obviously

:34:53. > :34:59.you end up with bald patches. How many bald patches... It varies,

:35:00. > :35:05.unfortunately. When I was younger I used to have a couple. Usually

:35:06. > :35:09.around the crown. They used to be separate, but when I first moved to

:35:10. > :35:13.London about six years ago, I think you know, I was going through a

:35:14. > :35:19.break-up, new city, new worries, new things to deal with. And those

:35:20. > :35:26.different patches merged into one, pretty much. That is a picture of

:35:27. > :35:33.you, Charlie. So you've got a hair we've now? Not so much a weave, it

:35:34. > :35:37.is a system implies, it helps put a barricade on between the patches. It

:35:38. > :35:45.helps give the hair a chance to grow, which it hasn't had for a long

:35:46. > :35:50.time. You're ripping your hair out. So it is just a system, like a mesh.

:35:51. > :35:55.And, you know, I remember the first time I had it on, I called my mum in

:35:56. > :36:00.tears, I said, I've got a centre parting for the first time, because

:36:01. > :36:09.I'd always had a side parting. Glorified Como no -- glorified Como

:36:10. > :36:13.over, you learn ways to cover it up. Even then, when you are covering it

:36:14. > :36:17.up, you are presumably conscious of it and conscious of people around

:36:18. > :36:21.you being conscious of it. Did you have to explain? If you get a gust

:36:22. > :36:27.of wind blowing against the way your hair is style, you are having to

:36:28. > :36:31.worry about it. Some people... My way of dealing with it is the

:36:32. > :36:36.volunteer the information, almost beat them to the punch, I've got

:36:37. > :36:41.this, I noticed you looking at my hair. I'd rather be open about it

:36:42. > :36:46.from the beginning. You do see some people look at you, like, OK, right,

:36:47. > :36:51.you're trying to grasp exactly what you're telling them. That you do to

:36:52. > :36:55.yourself, out of choice. Part of the healing is getting rid of the shame,

:36:56. > :36:58.humiliation and embarrassment that you carry around with you the

:36:59. > :37:04.decades. Very damaging to your psyche. If you have a secret that

:37:05. > :37:08.you don't want to be discovered, it is not a very good frequency to walk

:37:09. > :37:12.around with. It is much, much better, if you can be like Charlie,

:37:13. > :37:16.where you can sort of chat to your friends, it is so good for the girls

:37:17. > :37:20.to be able to do that and share, it is very important, and it does help

:37:21. > :37:25.towards you coping with it, because there is no known cure anywhere at

:37:26. > :37:32.all that we know of as yet. ? When you say no known cure, would there

:37:33. > :37:36.be therapy? The same as alcoholism, it would be therapy, but there are

:37:37. > :37:44.no polls or patience. You have to manage it. -- pills or potions. You

:37:45. > :37:50.have to try and live a normal life in extreme circumstances. You

:37:51. > :37:54.managed a support group, how many girls are coming to you? We are

:37:55. > :37:59.worldwide, not just in the UK. But basically what we do is, there are

:38:00. > :38:05.many sites for people with trigger the mania. A lot of them are

:38:06. > :38:09.encouraging people to live with the condition and accept the condition,

:38:10. > :38:14.to accept polling. Our ethos is basically that we need to accept the

:38:15. > :38:18.condition and accept that it is chronic. As Lucinda said, it is like

:38:19. > :38:28.alcoholism in the sense, I have been over 13 years pull free, but I'm not

:38:29. > :38:35.short, I'm in a recovery. I am aware of the fact that there is a strike

:38:36. > :38:38.possibility that I could pull again. -- a slight possibility. I know the

:38:39. > :38:43.steps that I need to take should I have any edges at all. What are

:38:44. > :38:47.those steps? If you are an alcoholic, you can steer clear of

:38:48. > :38:54.drink, but you've always got your hair. Were absolutely right, that is

:38:55. > :39:00.the key point. The main step would be to keep your hands and mind

:39:01. > :39:05.occupied. The biggest trigger for TTM is boredom. If we make sure that

:39:06. > :39:09.we don't get bored, which is kind of difficult. What you do is you

:39:10. > :39:13.basically take how the brain works, the human brain works, so that if

:39:14. > :39:17.there is a period of quiet you are looking for something to do, so that

:39:18. > :39:20.you improve your life, you increase functionality. If you've got a

:39:21. > :39:27.wonderful house, you're still don't want better. When you describe it

:39:28. > :39:31.like that -- you're still going to want something better. It is like

:39:32. > :39:35.any habit, repetitive behaviour that you just need to distract yourself.

:39:36. > :39:40.It is a message from your brain that you are in discomfort. It is in the

:39:41. > :39:44.nervous system, actually. Please under, I know you are concerned that

:39:45. > :39:49.the NHS is not taking this seriously -- Lucinda. What are you basing this

:39:50. > :39:54.on Brazil if you try and get NHS help it is very, very difficult.

:39:55. > :39:59.Girls give up, which is very sad. It is a clinical condition. It is

:40:00. > :40:03.worldwide recognised as such. Are people going and trying to get help

:40:04. > :40:08.and being turned away by their GP because they don't understand what's

:40:09. > :40:14.going on? You probably get CBT, if you're lucky. Cognitive behavioural

:40:15. > :40:18.therapy. The approach is definitely through emotional self and

:40:19. > :40:22.psychological soph, it is full of remissions and relapses. The idea

:40:23. > :40:27.that you have, as you say, you are 13 years in remission, this is

:40:28. > :40:31.wonderful, that is good to a lot of people, she can actually say, I am

:40:32. > :40:36.pull free for 13 years. It is a massive coup to do something like

:40:37. > :40:40.that. But there isn't enough out there. There is not education in the

:40:41. > :40:45.medical profession, there isn't very much help. CBT is as much as you can

:40:46. > :40:55.get if you're lucky. If you had something for ten or 15 years, you

:40:56. > :40:57.get six or eight sessions with somebody who perhaps is going to be

:40:58. > :41:00.different each time you go. Often the girls complain that they seem to

:41:01. > :41:02.be the ones educating the medical profession about TTM. Education is

:41:03. > :41:06.really what we need, because it helps. James on e-mail says, I

:41:07. > :41:10.started pulling my hair out in my 30s, although I'm right-handed I

:41:11. > :41:14.always use my left hand and I created a bald patch. The only way I

:41:15. > :41:18.found was to have my hair cut extremely short. What has worked for

:41:19. > :41:23.you, Charlie? Wearing hats indoors if I find myself pulling. Easy in my

:41:24. > :41:32.hands, like you said, just trying to find ways. -- making my hands busy.

:41:33. > :41:36.Even the smallest thing is a massive stress, finding things to do with

:41:37. > :41:42.your hands. What about help? Have you had help from the NHS? I did

:41:43. > :41:48.try, I applied to try and get some funding from the NHS through

:41:49. > :41:52.Lucinda, but the paperwork alone was quite stressful. I'm coming to the

:41:53. > :41:58.end of some CBT sessions at the moment through the NHS, which was

:41:59. > :42:02.brilliant. Obviously, I got the 12 sessions, although it takes a while

:42:03. > :42:06.to get comfortable with the person, you start to really open up to them,

:42:07. > :42:11.and obviously then it comes to an end and you have to start again with

:42:12. > :42:14.someone else. It's good, I'm definitely learning things, they've

:42:15. > :42:18.helped in that way, but it took well, there is long waiting list. We

:42:19. > :42:22.were talking about if you've got something and you don't know anyone

:42:23. > :42:24.else around you who's got it, if somebody at home is watching and

:42:25. > :42:32.feeling like they are the only one, they are listening to you and that

:42:33. > :42:35.will make a difference. I presume I was the only one who did all these

:42:36. > :42:39.weird things. I thought I was a freak. I didn't think there was

:42:40. > :42:46.anybody left who actually thought that. We get contact from parents of

:42:47. > :42:50.tiny babies a lot, where babies are pulling out their hair. What age

:42:51. > :42:54.would that start? My concern is that we want to get the message out that

:42:55. > :42:58.there is support for people for life, and with one individual person

:42:59. > :43:03.to help you. You say about babies, from what age?

:43:04. > :43:10.From the age that they learn to do something with their hands. A woman

:43:11. > :43:14.bought me a photograph of her to-week-old baby with her head

:43:15. > :43:17.wrapped around her fingers and said, she has been pulling out her hair

:43:18. > :43:28.since she was born. What about men, because James has e-mailed? It is

:43:29. > :43:32.considered to be predominantly feminine, in a similar way to autism

:43:33. > :43:41.which you have been highlighted this morning, I think it was 4-1 ratio...

:43:42. > :43:45.So it happens to men but not as frequently? I feel as though the

:43:46. > :43:49.ones I come across in my nearly 40 years, the younger they get it, they

:43:50. > :43:53.seem to kick it out somehow, playing football or whatever, but women do

:43:54. > :43:56.take things within. It is really good to have you all talking about

:43:57. > :43:58.it, thank you very much indeed for coming in. Thank you for inviting

:43:59. > :44:00.us! Now, is it a case of clowning

:44:01. > :44:03.around, or simply plain creepy? Police are warning pranksters

:44:04. > :44:05.who are posing as "killer clowns" The sightings started

:44:06. > :44:09.in the United States but now appear to have come to Britain,

:44:10. > :44:11.with several reports of people having frightening

:44:12. > :44:13.encounters involving clowns. Earlier this week,

:44:14. > :44:16.Northumbria Police issued a warning after several incidents in Newcastle

:44:17. > :44:18.involving people jumping out in the costumes

:44:19. > :44:21.and scaring children. And Essex Police say

:44:22. > :44:24.they were contacted after reports of two clowns approaching students

:44:25. > :44:27.as they walked to school. The sinister craze has been

:44:28. > :44:29.encouraged on social media, where people have shared photos

:44:30. > :44:35.and videos of the scary sightings. He's running, he

:44:36. > :45:35.chasing us! Jane Frances Kelly is here with me

:45:36. > :45:38.to tell us more about it. When did this first emerge and where are we

:45:39. > :45:43.now with it? This new phenomenon seems to have

:45:44. > :45:46.emerged in August, there was a report in South Carolina where a

:45:47. > :45:51.property manager apparently said that some clowns were luring

:45:52. > :45:56.children into some woods. This was not substantiated but apparently the

:45:57. > :46:00.next week in North Carolina there was a very similar report, and then

:46:01. > :46:04.it seemed to spread and we got to the situation where people are being

:46:05. > :46:11.arrested for sneaking around dressed as clowns or chasing away children

:46:12. > :46:17.from playgrounds. One school has banned clown costumes and you have

:46:18. > :46:23.the situation in Utah where the police have warned people that it is

:46:24. > :46:28.not illegal to shoot a random clown because of the fear, and as you say

:46:29. > :46:31.it has come to Britain as well, there was a 13-year-old boy in

:46:32. > :46:44.Northumbria arrested and given a warning. An author has said it could

:46:45. > :46:49.be many things, a copycat, that most of these people are attention

:46:50. > :46:53.seekers and don't pose any danger because why would you dress up as a

:46:54. > :47:01.clown if you wanted to lure a child, a lot of children are frightened of

:47:02. > :47:06.clouds. They are sort of ambivalent figures, they are spooky. On the

:47:07. > :47:12.20th century because we had travelling circuses they were seen

:47:13. > :47:16.as quite child friendly figures. This is something else, though,

:47:17. > :47:18.isn't it! Sorry to rush you but we have got so much to pack in this

:47:19. > :47:21.morning. We are going to bring you an

:47:22. > :47:23.interview now with Kylie Minogue's fiance.

:47:24. > :47:26.You'd think any man lucky enough to get Kylie Minogue to agree

:47:27. > :47:28.to marry him would be rushing to set the date.

:47:29. > :47:32.But the singer's fiance has told this programme he and Kylie won't be

:47:33. > :47:34.tying the knot until same-sex unions are legalised in her

:47:35. > :47:37.Joshua Sasse and Kylie Minogue started the marriage equality

:47:38. > :47:42.A public vote on the issue will be held in the country next February.

:47:43. > :47:45.I asked Joshua why the couple feel so strongly about the issue

:47:46. > :47:53.It started because I didn't know it was illegal,

:47:54. > :47:55.and that in itself, having so many gay friends,

:47:56. > :47:58.and obviously her being Australian, that the two came together

:47:59. > :48:01.And it's important to us because we're planning

:48:02. > :48:11.And I can't, in all good conscience, plan a wedding when I know so many

:48:12. > :48:14.people are banned by law from doing so.

:48:15. > :48:22.How did the two of you talk about it? You decided to get married and

:48:23. > :48:26.then talked about this issue? Every morning over breakfast, reading the

:48:27. > :48:32.news, as everyone does, I came across it and I was astounded. I was

:48:33. > :48:37.querying my friends and saying, did you know about it, and more people

:48:38. > :48:43.didn't, and I sat down and thought, I cannot fathom what is going on and

:48:44. > :48:49.I cannot believe I didn't know. And so I just slowly had this idea in my

:48:50. > :48:53.head of wanting to come up with this and just thought that I knew I could

:48:54. > :49:00.do something, and it just grew from that, really. How long after you got

:49:01. > :49:04.engaged did you both decide, actually, we are engaged but we are

:49:05. > :49:10.not going to get married until gay marriage is illegal in Australia? We

:49:11. > :49:16.got engaged in December, and I think I found out about this four months

:49:17. > :49:21.ago when we were staying with some friends who are gay. That was a

:49:22. > :49:29.turning point for me, I have got a three-year-old son, I would never be

:49:30. > :49:34.teaching him these codes and conducts, and I feel like it is my

:49:35. > :49:38.responsibility as part of my local community, as part of the global

:49:39. > :49:43.community, to be doing something about it. It is important, education

:49:44. > :49:47.is important, the right sort of education. You have obviously shone

:49:48. > :49:52.a spotlight because of the celebrity that you have other couple, people

:49:53. > :49:56.are talking about it. Do you expect that you will make a difference?

:49:57. > :50:02.There is due to be a vote in February on this issue in Australia?

:50:03. > :50:06.Yes, there is. I hope we will make a difference, that is part and parcel

:50:07. > :50:11.of what comes along with this job and this life, is that you are part

:50:12. > :50:15.of that, and if you are lucky enough to have that, it is your

:50:16. > :50:18.responsibility to use it in the right way and to the best of your

:50:19. > :50:25.ability, otherwise what good is it? That is certainly how I see it. How

:50:26. > :50:29.far will you take it? If gay marriage is not made illegal in

:50:30. > :50:34.Australia, will you two just not get married? We are certainly not going

:50:35. > :50:38.to get married until that has passed. The prospect of that going

:50:39. > :50:48.on for three years is awful, but it is no more awful than the millions

:50:49. > :50:51.of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people going through

:50:52. > :50:56.this. It is not just Australia, Italy, Greece, the Czech Republic,

:50:57. > :51:02.Poland, Latvia, Slovenia, it goes on and on and on, there are countries

:51:03. > :51:07.right here at home in Europe where people cannot get married. I'm not

:51:08. > :51:11.telling people what they should or should not be doing, that is just

:51:12. > :51:15.how I feel, how we feel. When you got engaged it was a big deal

:51:16. > :51:20.because it is Kylie, you are marrying Kylie, everyone knows who

:51:21. > :51:23.she is, she is hugely loved. People would expect that you immediately

:51:24. > :51:32.plan a marriage, do you just now but those thoughts on hold? Yes, yes.

:51:33. > :51:34.Part of starting this campaign was getting completely under the skin of

:51:35. > :51:38.it and understanding where it is coming from, listening to the

:51:39. > :51:43.stories in Australia, not just Australia but Mexico, all over the

:51:44. > :51:46.world, talking about their own personal story, and you have to get

:51:47. > :51:50.into that because these are real people, they are not just a

:51:51. > :51:55.democratic, a percentile, these are real people, real lives, and I have

:51:56. > :52:02.spoken to people in Australia who have been waiting years to no avail.

:52:03. > :52:07.How can I be running a campaign like this and then go and get married? It

:52:08. > :52:12.is not right. It is not fair, and it should be fair, it should all be

:52:13. > :52:20.fair, and that start at home, change starts at home. This is me doing my

:52:21. > :52:31.small bit. Obviously you are 18, you are both completely signed up to

:52:32. > :52:36.this, however long it takes us -- you are a team. Yes, there is no

:52:37. > :52:42.rush. You sound like quite a romantic, it was it a romantic

:52:43. > :52:52.proposal? Yes... I cannot tell you! Give us a glimpse! Lots of snow and

:52:53. > :52:57.quiet moments. We both work in the media, and she is used to getting

:52:58. > :53:04.dolled up and I am used to having something put on, so for us it was

:53:05. > :53:09.about the quiet life, with family. It was just after the Queen's

:53:10. > :53:13.Speech, I waited until after the Queen's speed! Was that

:53:14. > :53:24.significant?! Just a nod of different! -- deference. A lot of

:53:25. > :53:33.planning went into it? A bit of planning, a bit of spontaneity, a

:53:34. > :53:40.bit of both. Don't make me blush! It was very romantic. You would have to

:53:41. > :53:46.ask her. I probably messed it up! Did she say yes straightaway? Of

:53:47. > :53:53.course she did! What are you talking about?! Yes, it was very nice, lots

:53:54. > :54:03.of snow and very romantic. Where was it, with all the snow? It was in

:54:04. > :54:07.France, we were on holiday. So, yes. Did you get down on one knee? You

:54:08. > :54:12.sound very traditional, you talked about your parents marriage, was it

:54:13. > :54:17.a traditional proposal? No, my parents' marriage was not very

:54:18. > :54:21.traditional either, they had Indian garb and it was... Looks, it is all

:54:22. > :54:25.about love, this is what it is all about, and it is so silly because I

:54:26. > :54:31.cannot find a single person I meet who does not know somebody who is

:54:32. > :54:35.lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, whatever, so whatever it is they

:54:36. > :54:39.believe in their heart and how they live their life, it is not up to me,

:54:40. > :54:44.to you, to anybody to tell another person how to live their lives.

:54:45. > :54:50.There is a rationale that seems to be lost in the myriad of laws that

:54:51. > :54:53.are written down and that is what we are trying to cut through, and when

:54:54. > :54:57.you ask me whether I think this can change, I do believe that, I do

:54:58. > :55:01.believe that is something we should all believe and hope, that the laws

:55:02. > :55:06.that are there to protect us serve as. It is all about love, that is a

:55:07. > :55:11.pretty good way to end the show. Thank you for your company today,

:55:12. > :55:13.that was Joshua Sasse, Kylie Minogue's fiance. Have a lovely

:55:14. > :56:01.weekend, I will see you soon. # Sooner or later

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:57:30. > :57:33.people on the US east coast are urged to move inland.

:57:34. > :57:37.It's already caused devastation in the Caribbean country of Haiti,

:57:38. > :57:40.where more than 300 people are known to have died.

:57:41. > :57:43.Rescue workers are trying to reach the remotest parts.

:57:44. > :57:46.And what caused the pound to dive dramatically in value overnight?

:57:47. > :57:49.Sterling dropped by 6% before recovering on the Asian markets,

:57:50. > :57:54.with automated trading blamed for the so-called flash crash.

:57:55. > :57:57.Jeremy Corbyn is accused of failing to unify the Labour Party

:57:58. > :57:59.as he promotes allies and sacks others

:58:00. > :58:17.These are the voyages of the starship enterprise.

:58:18. > :58:19.And we boldly go to meet the original Captain Kirk at Europe's

:58:20. > :58:22.biggest fan convention.