:00:09. > :00:10.Hello it's Friday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling.
:00:11. > :00:15.It's the army scandal that won't go away.
:00:16. > :00:21.Deepcut, the barracks where four young soldiers died from gunshots.
:00:22. > :00:23.Today, a judge decides whether a new inquest should be held
:00:24. > :00:26.into the death of one of them, Private Sean Benton,
:00:27. > :00:28.who was found with five bullet wounds to his chest.
:00:29. > :00:30.The original inquest said it was suicide.
:00:31. > :00:32.We talk to one someone who was at Deepcut
:00:33. > :00:37.with Sean and will bring you the decision when it breaks.
:00:38. > :00:39.Also, if your child will eat only sweetcorn, or bananas,
:00:40. > :00:46.Scientists have found some kids are just born fussy eaters.
:00:47. > :00:50.We will be discussing it with food writer Annabel Karmel and a mum
:00:51. > :00:53.whose daughter would only eat beige food.
:00:54. > :00:56.And, you fall overboard in shark-infested
:00:57. > :00:59.seas, your boat sails away over the horizon, what do you do?
:01:00. > :01:02.We've got an interview with the man who had to contend with sharks
:01:03. > :01:04.and dive-bombing birds as he trod water for a day
:01:05. > :01:12.and a night in the Indian Ocean before being rescued.
:01:13. > :01:21.I mean, the horror of that moment... But I never really felt fear. I
:01:22. > :01:30.thought this was where it ends. It was shock, disbelief.
:01:31. > :01:34.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.
:01:35. > :01:35.Also coming up, hospital patients and visitors
:01:36. > :01:38.are being hit in the pocket after one in three hospital trusts
:01:39. > :01:41.in England increased their car parking charges in the last year.
:01:42. > :01:43.New figures reveal some are now charging as much
:01:44. > :01:50.We will be talking to a cancer patient who says he constantly has
:01:51. > :01:53.to pay to attend appointments, and also to someone who says
:01:54. > :02:06.And what about whether some kids are born fussy eaters?
:02:07. > :02:10.Usual ways of getting in touch - hashtag #victorialive.
:02:11. > :02:11.Texts will cost the standard network rate.
:02:12. > :02:14.A baby has died and a child is seriously injured
:02:15. > :02:20.Police in Essex say the surviving child was left
:02:21. > :02:23.An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.
:02:24. > :02:28.Well our correspondent Helena Lee is here to tell me more.
:02:29. > :02:33.We know this attack happened just after 3pm in Essex. The ambulance
:02:34. > :02:45.were called to this a -- called to this address. All three
:02:46. > :02:50.people were taken to hospital, where we know that the baby boy died and
:02:51. > :02:54.the other child we're being told is being treated for serious injuries
:02:55. > :02:59.which are being described as life changing, and the mother has got
:03:00. > :03:02.mine injuries. Police were at the scene and there is a chord and up.
:03:03. > :03:06.We don't know the breed of the dog yet at this stage and we'll so don't
:03:07. > :03:10.know whether it was a family pet, but Essex Police say it is clearly a
:03:11. > :03:12.very difficult time for the family and they are being supported by
:03:13. > :03:14.specially trained officers at the moment. Thank you.
:03:15. > :03:16.Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
:03:17. > :03:21.MPs have attacked the Government's handling of rail franchises,
:03:22. > :03:26.saying passengers have been let down badly.
:03:27. > :03:29.The Transport Select Committee is urging ministers to "get
:03:30. > :03:32.And in a report it highlights what it calls the "woeful"
:03:33. > :03:34.experience of Southern commuters, who've suffered
:03:35. > :03:37.Here's our transport correspondent, Richard Westcott.
:03:38. > :03:47.Rail passengers are being let down and the Government
:03:48. > :03:53.must do more to help, according to this new report.
:03:54. > :04:02.Passengers are not being given proper information about journeys
:04:03. > :04:04.and how to link up different journeys to get
:04:05. > :04:08.If passengers have a number of journeys to make
:04:09. > :04:11.Too many people are in overcrowded carriages and nothing
:04:12. > :04:16.There are calls for better ways of measuring late
:04:17. > :04:24.But the MPs saved their harshest comments for the way the Government
:04:25. > :04:26.has handled the chaos on Southern Rail, which runs
:04:27. > :04:28.services between the south coast and London.
:04:29. > :04:30.Passengers have endured months of strikes, cancellations,
:04:31. > :04:32.broken-down trains and staff shortages, making it the most
:04:33. > :04:36.The report says the Government must get a grip on the situation
:04:37. > :04:38.and should be prepared to either change the company's contract
:04:39. > :04:41.Ministers say that wouldn't solve the problem, it
:04:42. > :04:45.The next Southern strike is due next week and there is little sign
:04:46. > :05:00.An investigation's started at London Zoo into how a 29 stone
:05:01. > :05:03.Kumbuka was on the loose for nearly two hours
:05:04. > :05:18.News of the great escape is all over this morning's tabloids.
:05:19. > :05:21.18-year-old Kumbuka got out of his den and into an area only
:05:22. > :05:32.He stayed there until a vet was called in to tranquilise him.
:05:33. > :05:34.But the zoo also asked the police to assist.
:05:35. > :05:37.This footage was filmed by an eyewitness.
:05:38. > :05:40.Before anyone could leave, visitors told how they were locked in a cafe
:05:41. > :05:47.We were stuck in the cafe and then we were escorted
:05:48. > :05:50.out of there by police after we were told to get
:05:51. > :06:00.And then we were taken into the pavilion but we're
:06:01. > :06:09.The zoo says the public was never at risk.
:06:10. > :06:12.It was a safe and secure keeper area, so at no
:06:13. > :06:17.time did he actually get out into the zoo.
:06:18. > :06:21.And I am happy to report that Kumbuka is back
:06:22. > :06:23.in his den and interacting happily with his family.
:06:24. > :06:26.This is Kumbuka when he's not trying to make a run for it.
:06:27. > :06:29.He has been living in London Zoo for three years.
:06:30. > :06:32.It's a far cry from his natural habitat, a tropical
:06:33. > :06:39.But his species is critically endangered.
:06:40. > :06:41.The zoo has not confirmed how this silverback heavyweight managed
:06:42. > :06:46.It will reopen to the public today, although the Gorilla Kingdom remains
:06:47. > :06:48.cordoned off and a full investigation is now under way.
:06:49. > :06:57.The former chief of the defence staff, Lord Bramall,
:06:58. > :07:00.says the Metropolitan Police have apologised to him for the way
:07:01. > :07:02.it handled allegations of child sexual abuse.
:07:03. > :07:04.The retired Field Marshal was told in January that no
:07:05. > :07:06.action would be taken, ten months after officers
:07:07. > :07:14.Scotland Yard had previously insisted it had nothing
:07:15. > :07:17.The SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon has been defending her decision
:07:18. > :07:21.to revive proposals for Scottish independence.
:07:22. > :07:23.She's confirmed that a Bill for a Referendum will be published
:07:24. > :07:29.The Scottish First Minister said Brexit meant that people in Scotland
:07:30. > :07:32.needed the opportunity to their their vote.
:07:33. > :07:35.needed the opportunity to have their vote.
:07:36. > :07:41.I think the UK right now is potentially about to take a step off
:07:42. > :07:45.the edge of a cliff in coming out of the single market and I don't want
:07:46. > :07:49.to happen to Scotland. I actually don't want that to happen to the UK.
:07:50. > :07:54.But I am the First Minister for Scotland and Theresa May is the
:07:55. > :07:59.Prime Minister of the UK and I respect that and we have to work
:08:00. > :08:03.well together. That's what I'm prepared to do. What we heard from
:08:04. > :08:06.her last week was a pretty strong business or Scotland's voice, and
:08:07. > :08:13.that is not acceptable to me. Researchers say they believe that
:08:14. > :08:16.a child's fussy eating is as much down to genetic influences
:08:17. > :08:18.as poor parenting. Scientists in London compared nearly
:08:19. > :08:20.2,000 sets of identical and non-identical twins and found
:08:21. > :08:22.that their likes and Here's more from our health and
:08:23. > :08:28.science reporter, James Gallagher. It is tea-time in
:08:29. > :08:34.the Parnham household. Alice is only two, but she already
:08:35. > :08:40.knows what she likes. She wolfs down sweet potato, peas
:08:41. > :08:43.and sweetcorn, and she loves her Foods Alice is less keen
:08:44. > :08:48.on are meat, she doesn't really like chicken or bits of beef
:08:49. > :08:53.in a stew. A nightly battle over greens
:08:54. > :09:01.is hugely frustrating for parents. But a study on twins at UCL shows
:09:02. > :09:05.half of a child's willingness to eat or even try new foods
:09:06. > :09:11.is hard-wired into their DNA. It's because your child is showing
:09:12. > :09:16.an innate trait and you just have to work with your child
:09:17. > :09:18.and not against your child. Parents often take the blame
:09:19. > :09:21.for a fussy child, so Alice's mum I think it make parents feel a bit
:09:22. > :09:28.better that it's not Because obviously you try your
:09:29. > :09:38.hardest to make your children eat things and sometimes they just
:09:39. > :09:40.don't like it. So if you want your kids to try more
:09:41. > :09:43.food, the advice is to start early, keep trying, but never force a child
:09:44. > :09:47.to eat something they don't want to. Campaigners are warning that
:09:48. > :09:49.hundreds of pharmacies in England will have to close if the Government
:09:50. > :09:52.goes ahead with steep A body representing the pharmacy
:09:53. > :09:56.industry said the plan - which is expected within weeks -
:09:57. > :09:58.would cause chaos. The Department of Health said no
:09:59. > :10:03.final decision had been taken. Thousands of mourners in Thailand
:10:04. > :10:06.are taking part in a ceremony today to honour their king,
:10:07. > :10:10.who died yesterday aged 88. A late night vigil was held
:10:11. > :10:14.in Bangkok, and thousands of people have been lining the streets
:10:15. > :10:16.to pay their respects. The king's body will be
:10:17. > :10:18.taken to the city's The official mourning
:10:19. > :10:23.will last a year. King Bhumibol Adulyadej
:10:24. > :10:25.was the world's In the US presidential race,
:10:26. > :10:35.the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, has said the women
:10:36. > :10:37.accusing him of sexual misconduct are horrible liars
:10:38. > :10:40.and in cahoots with media outlets who support his rival
:10:41. > :10:51.Hillary Clinton. These fishes claims about me of
:10:52. > :10:53.inappropriate conduct with women are totally and absolutely false. --
:10:54. > :11:00.these vicious claims. Meanwhile, the First
:11:01. > :11:01.Lady, Michelle Obama, in a speech to students
:11:02. > :11:08.in New Hampshire. This was a powerful individual
:11:09. > :11:13.speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behaviour, and
:11:14. > :11:16.actually bragging about kissing and groping women, using language so
:11:17. > :11:18.obscene that many of us were worried about our children hearing it when
:11:19. > :11:20.we turned on the TV. An international deal to tackle
:11:21. > :11:23.climate change is expected It will involve phasing out
:11:24. > :11:26.the use of gases known as hydrofluorocarbons,
:11:27. > :11:30.which are found in fridges, Representatives from nearly 200
:11:31. > :11:36.counties have been meeting The comic book character
:11:37. > :11:42.Wonder Woman is to be named as a new honorary ambassador
:11:43. > :11:44.for the United Nations. The heroine will be used to promote
:11:45. > :11:46.messages about women's empowerment The UK Women's Equality Party said
:11:47. > :11:50.it was fittingly comic that the UN could not think of a single human
:11:51. > :11:58.woman who could take on the role. That's a summary of the latest BBC
:11:59. > :12:09.News - more at 9:30am. Later in the programme, we're going
:12:10. > :12:13.to be talking about kids who are fussy eaters. Scientists say that
:12:14. > :12:17.genes play a big role and some kids are just born that way. Do you agree
:12:18. > :12:21.or do you think it's just down to parenting? We would love to know
:12:22. > :12:26.what you think if you had a particularly fussy that has a child.
:12:27. > :12:30.Texts will cost the standard network rate.
:12:31. > :12:35.Let's get some sport now with Jessica.
:12:36. > :12:36.We're hearing about concussion this morning,
:12:37. > :12:38.it's the most common injury in professional rugby.
:12:39. > :12:41.And the BBC has been given access to new video technology which helps
:12:42. > :12:47.What is it? Yes, concussion is a massive issue and the top rugby
:12:48. > :12:50.union league in England, the premiership, has become the first in
:12:51. > :12:55.the world to introduce video technology to address a problem.
:12:56. > :13:00.Staff members of a team, known as spotters, said pitch side during the
:13:01. > :13:05.match and have access to an instant pitch side review system, where they
:13:06. > :13:10.look out for potential head injuries. They then mark the footage
:13:11. > :13:14.for doctors to take a closer look. They can rewind a clip of a
:13:15. > :13:18.collision or play it in slow motion, which allows them to make an
:13:19. > :13:22.immediate decision whether a player needs further attention. Before,
:13:23. > :13:25.decisions could be delayed if collisions were missed, which is of
:13:26. > :13:30.course very dangerous for the players. What can the effects of
:13:31. > :13:35.concussion beads, long-term? Concussion is something that can end
:13:36. > :13:38.a player's career. Two have already retired this season and the number
:13:39. > :13:45.of recorded concussions has a ready tripled in the past five seasons. It
:13:46. > :13:50.was the start of three really dark months of my life. For the first few
:13:51. > :13:56.days I couldn't sleep, even though I had the overwhelming need to sleep
:13:57. > :14:00.and I wanted to sleep. I felt like a zombie but I just couldn't quite get
:14:01. > :14:07.to sleep. That was the first few days, really, really bad. Then I was
:14:08. > :14:11.really sensitive to light and noise and rarely angry order time, really
:14:12. > :14:17.agitated around my kids, which is totally not normal for me. Canadian
:14:18. > :14:22.international Jamie Cudmore there, who has played for one of Europe's
:14:23. > :14:24.top clubs in Clermont Auvergne and he was describing just how badly
:14:25. > :14:28.concussion can affect you. Between 1995 and 2002 four young
:14:29. > :14:31.soldiers died of gunshot wounds The first of them was Private
:14:32. > :14:34.Sean Benton. He was found with five gunshot
:14:35. > :14:42.wounds to his chest. This morning his family will find
:14:43. > :14:45.out at the High Court whether they will be
:14:46. > :14:47.granted a fresh inquest into his death, which at the time
:14:48. > :14:49.was recorded as suicide. I'll be speaking to Sean's friend
:14:50. > :14:52.and his family's lawyer in a moment, but first here's a round-up
:14:53. > :14:54.of developments so far. Over the years, thousands
:14:55. > :14:57.of army recruits have gone through the Deepcut Barracks
:14:58. > :14:58.in Surrey for their Between 1995 and 2002,
:14:59. > :15:02.four young army recruits died from gunshot wounds in unexplained
:15:03. > :15:08.circumstances at Deepcut . They were 20-year-old Sean Benton,
:15:09. > :15:13.18-year-old Cheryl James, 17-year-old Geoff Gray and another
:15:14. > :15:18.17-year-old, James Collinson. The deaths came amid claims
:15:19. > :15:20.of widespread abuse The army treated all of the deaths
:15:21. > :15:27.and suicides, but each The families pushed to have fresh
:15:28. > :15:33.inquests into their deaths. In February this year,
:15:34. > :15:35.there was a second inquest It concluded she took her own life,
:15:36. > :15:42.but acknowledged there was a highly There were also serious failings
:15:43. > :15:47.in the care and A recent ruling means there may be
:15:48. > :15:53.a fresh inquest into the death Well, we'll find out in a matter
:15:54. > :16:00.of hours whether that The solicitor for Sean Benton's
:16:01. > :16:15.family, Emma Norton, Thank you very much for joining us.
:16:16. > :16:20.Tell as a bit more about exactly why the family want a second inquest and
:16:21. > :16:25.what the evidence that has emerged has shown?
:16:26. > :16:29.The circumstances into the death of Sean Benton were never properly
:16:30. > :16:34.investigated. Sean died of five gunshot wounds to the chest early
:16:35. > :16:39.one morning by one of the rear gate said Deepcut barracks. It was a
:16:40. > :16:43.death on military property, it is investigated by the military police.
:16:44. > :16:47.The civilian police did not investigate at that time. Forensic
:16:48. > :16:51.tests were not conducted and the coroner did not conduct a proper
:16:52. > :16:54.inquest, either. For all of these reasons, the family has always been
:16:55. > :16:59.deeply unsatisfied that they have never been able to be satisfied as
:17:00. > :17:03.to how he came by his death. The reason the second inquest might
:17:04. > :17:09.be granted is that Sean's mother used human rights legislation to get
:17:10. > :17:16.evidence from Surrey Police given to the family. What is that evidence,
:17:17. > :17:20.what does it show? We are not able to reveal the full details but
:17:21. > :17:24.evidence today until the matter is heard in the High Court, but I will
:17:25. > :17:29.say that it involves forensic evidence, new witness evidence, lots
:17:30. > :17:32.of evidence that Sean was the victim of prolonged serious physical and
:17:33. > :17:36.psychological bullying, and that needs to come out and be
:17:37. > :17:41.investigated by a coroner at a new inquest. Why do you think that has
:17:42. > :17:45.not come out previously? The coroner at the first inquest,
:17:46. > :17:48.which lasted for less than two I was, heard from a fraction of the
:17:49. > :17:54.witnesses it should have heard from, did not hear all the medical
:17:55. > :17:57.evidence that it should have, there were no forensic or ballistic tests.
:17:58. > :18:02.The true circumstances of Sean's death have never been fully
:18:03. > :18:05.investigated. What has the official explanation
:18:06. > :18:10.been for the fact that he had five bullet wounds to the chest, and
:18:11. > :18:12.whether they could be self-inflicted? Agog at the original
:18:13. > :18:17.inquest the coroner heard evidence that Sean turned the gun on himself,
:18:18. > :18:24.and that is what led to five bullet wounds being found in his chest.
:18:25. > :18:28.Have you spoken to ballistics experts on whether that is possible
:18:29. > :18:37.that somebody could conflict that sort of wound on themselves? Not
:18:38. > :18:41.yet, we have only had I done my gripe sisters of the forensics and
:18:42. > :18:45.ballistic work which has been taken very recently following Linda
:18:46. > :18:50.Benton's application under the Human Rights Act. Whether we instruct for
:18:51. > :18:52.further ballistic tests to be taken is dependent on whether a fresh
:18:53. > :18:57.inquest is driven today. And we can also speak
:18:58. > :18:59.to Stewart Thompson, who was at the Deepcut barracks
:19:00. > :19:06.when Sean was there Thank you very much for joining us.
:19:07. > :19:10.As I mentioned, you were there at the same time as Sean, tell as a bit
:19:11. > :19:19.about Sean. When you first knew him, what was he like? Sean was a great
:19:20. > :19:23.soldier. He was like everybody else. We will all the same, we all went
:19:24. > :19:26.through Pirbright together. We all had different strengths and
:19:27. > :19:34.weaknesses. But when I arrived at the same time as Sean at the end of
:19:35. > :19:41.November 94, we changed, progressively, from recruits into
:19:42. > :19:45.soldiers. Like I say, everybody had strengths and weaknesses. Sean
:19:46. > :19:49.changed a lot over that period. I watched him change, his character
:19:50. > :19:55.and personality changed over the next six months. Eventually that
:19:56. > :20:00.culminated in his death, which is why we are here today discussing the
:20:01. > :20:07.fresh inquest. Describe the changes in him that you saw?
:20:08. > :20:14.His character became more withdrawn, depressed, for quiet -- more quiet
:20:15. > :20:20.and unpredictable. He was involved in a number of reported incidents of
:20:21. > :20:27.islands. Whether he was responsible, I don't know. -- reported incidents
:20:28. > :20:32.of violence. He suffered from character withdrawal, he reported
:20:33. > :20:37.incidences of bullying. It is difficult to discuss even now after
:20:38. > :20:43.all this time. A long time has passed, and I remember him changing
:20:44. > :20:48.as a person. When you say he reported incidences of bullying, did
:20:49. > :20:55.he talk directly to you? Obviously you can't name anybody or point the
:20:56. > :21:02.finger in any direction, but generally, what with the allegations
:21:03. > :21:07.made? Yeah, he didn't go into a great detail with me, personally.
:21:08. > :21:14.But I did speak to him maybe a month before he died, and he mentioned
:21:15. > :21:19.that he was being targeted and some of the instructors were on his back
:21:20. > :21:26.all the time, giving him grief. Even a month before he died he was facing
:21:27. > :21:34.a number of military investigations for his behaviour. So he had a lot
:21:35. > :21:38.of problems. But, yeah, he did specifically name some people to me,
:21:39. > :21:51.but like you say I can't discuss those names now. Basically. How did
:21:52. > :21:56.everybody react when it emerged that he had died, and the nature of the
:21:57. > :22:02.injuries and the fact that it was subsequently described as a suicide?
:22:03. > :22:07.Yeah, it was shocking, really. I know he was struggling, he was
:22:08. > :22:14.having problems. Lots people do, you know? Lots of people have problems
:22:15. > :22:20.in military basic training. People get through it. So his death was a
:22:21. > :22:25.big surprise. I never imagined that he would commit suicide. He
:22:26. > :22:30.certainly was not displaying, you know, that kind of behaviour. Of
:22:31. > :22:34.course he was withdrawn and is depressed, but other people were.
:22:35. > :22:38.Which made it very, very shocking at the time. Even today, more than 20
:22:39. > :22:43.years later, I remember the exact place I was in when I heard of his
:22:44. > :22:50.death. It still has an impact on me as a person. I remember, you know,
:22:51. > :22:55.the precise moment. It was disbelief, really. And then the
:22:56. > :23:02.details into his death, they emerged and it was five gunshot to the
:23:03. > :23:09.chest. It was very bizarre. Very bizarre. The details were not made
:23:10. > :23:13.public for quite a number of years. It was disbelief, really, complete
:23:14. > :23:18.shock. Ehmer Norton, how important is it to
:23:19. > :23:23.the family that they get this second inquest? Really, really important. I
:23:24. > :23:28.have not even really got words for it. They have now been without Sean
:23:29. > :23:33.for longer than they had him. It has impacted all their lives in the most
:23:34. > :23:36.devastating way. Both of his parents died recently, his siblings are
:23:37. > :23:41.taking this forward. All of this pain could have been avoided if it
:23:42. > :23:52.was properly and independently investigated at the outset, all of
:23:53. > :23:55.it could have been avoided. It is a very, very important day, but also a
:23:56. > :23:57.very sad one for them. Emma, solicitor for the family of Sean
:23:58. > :23:59.Benton, thank you. And Stuart Thomson, thank you.
:24:00. > :24:01.The MoD said in a statement today that the Army's thoughts remain with
:24:02. > :24:15.the family of Sean Benton, adding... We will bring you the ruling at the
:24:16. > :24:26.court when it happens. Countries around the world are on
:24:27. > :24:29.the brink of taking what has been called the biggest step to fight
:24:30. > :24:34.climate change. They are meeting to try to phase out one of the most
:24:35. > :24:41.potent greenhouse gases, HFCs, used in aerosols, fridges and air
:24:42. > :24:45.conditioners. The sort of action has worked before. A similar agreement
:24:46. > :24:49.was reached 30 years ago when the world faced the deadly threat of the
:24:50. > :24:50.hole in the ozone layer. This short film reflects on that momentous
:24:51. > :25:00.deal. In the traditional motion
:25:01. > :25:03.picture story, the villains are usually defeated,
:25:04. > :25:05.the ending is a happy one. I can make no such promise for
:25:06. > :25:09.the picture you are about to watch. This is a story that stars two
:25:10. > :25:11.leaders, Ronald Reagan They became the most unlikely
:25:12. > :25:14.eco-warriors of all time, playing the leading roles
:25:15. > :25:17.in a largely forgotten drama that saved all life on Earth
:25:18. > :25:18.from disaster. In the 1920s, coolants
:25:19. > :25:32.in refrigerators were so toxic that So, we invented safer chemicals
:25:33. > :25:40.to do the job - CFCs. The wonder chemicals
:25:41. > :25:43.of the 20th century. There were so versatile people's
:25:44. > :25:45.lives were transformed. Fridges, air-conditioners,
:25:46. > :25:49.aerosols, cleaners. Hairspray that will make it
:25:50. > :25:59.all through her day. But then Mario, a chemist
:26:00. > :26:02.from Mexico, worked out that maybe He predicted that the Earth's
:26:03. > :26:10.natural sun shield, the ozone layer, was being eaten by CFCs
:26:11. > :26:16.at a terrifying rate. We felt a great responsibility
:26:17. > :26:19.to actually warn society that Chemical companies didn't
:26:20. > :26:24.like the sound of his warning. His research threatened
:26:25. > :26:28.a billion-dollar industry. Destroying a perfectly good
:26:29. > :26:29.and useful product Sure enough, there was an enormous
:26:30. > :26:50.hole in the stratosphere It was such a shocking revelation,
:26:51. > :26:59.over half the ozone layer destroyed over
:27:00. > :27:05.Antarctica, in a decade. If the destruction wasn't stopped,
:27:06. > :27:07.we would be We'll have a blind,
:27:08. > :27:14.burnt population. We might have to become
:27:15. > :27:20.nocturnal in order to escape. The US needed a leader to stand up
:27:21. > :27:24.to industry and ban CFCs. Ronald Reagan's record
:27:25. > :27:32.on the environment left His appointments at EPA
:27:33. > :27:38.ranged from incompetent So, environmental lawyers,
:27:39. > :27:46.economists and scientists built an argument so strong
:27:47. > :27:48.that the President simply We pretty much backed him
:27:49. > :27:56.into a corner. And this guy had
:27:57. > :27:59.the President's ear. I was secretary of state
:28:00. > :28:01.for President Reagan. And Ronnie, who had skin
:28:02. > :28:08.cancer on his nose... Understood the threat
:28:09. > :28:12.from the sun's radiation. He became convinced it
:28:13. > :28:19.would be a catastrophe. So, in 1987, with America leading
:28:20. > :28:24.the way, more than 30 countries agreed to phase out the production
:28:25. > :28:26.of CFCs and signed It was done in Montreal,
:28:27. > :28:32.so it was called But two years later,
:28:33. > :28:38.the agreement was faltering. Poorer countries couldn't afford
:28:39. > :28:41.the greener alternatives. She pushed the rich nations to help
:28:42. > :28:47.pay for every country We carry common burdens,
:28:48. > :28:51.face common problems and must With CFCs now banned,
:28:52. > :29:02.the ozone hole is healing. And Mario won the Nobel Prize for
:29:03. > :29:15.Chemistry. But today a new disaster
:29:16. > :29:19.movie is unfolding. The lead actors have changed,
:29:20. > :29:25.but the drama is the same. If today's leaders learn
:29:26. > :29:38.from Ronnie and Maggie, and phase out the chemicals causing
:29:39. > :29:40.the damage, there's still time And that film was made by Windfall
:29:41. > :30:04.Films. When you or a relative go
:30:05. > :30:09.into hospital, parking costs are probably the last thing
:30:10. > :30:11.you want to worry about - but one in three hospitals
:30:12. > :30:14.in England have put up their charges Sharks, storms and killer seagulls -
:30:15. > :30:20.we hear from a man who spent a day and a night alone,
:30:21. > :30:38.treading water in the middle Thank you, good morning. A
:30:39. > :30:42.four-month-old boy has died and his nearly two-year-old brother has been
:30:43. > :30:48.seriously injured after being attacked by a dog. Police in Essex
:30:49. > :30:52.were called to Colchester yesterday. They say the surviving toddler was
:30:53. > :30:55.left with life changing injuries. An adult was also slightly hurt in the
:30:56. > :31:02.attack, which happened yesterday afternoon. MPs have attacked the
:31:03. > :31:06.Government's handling of rail franchises, saying that passengers
:31:07. > :31:08.have been let down badly. The transport Select Committee is urging
:31:09. > :31:15.ministers to get a grip on the problem. It highlights the what if
:31:16. > :31:19.goals woeful experience of Southern commuters. A judge is to decide
:31:20. > :31:32.whether there should be a fresh inquest into the death of a young
:31:33. > :31:36.soldier at deep cut barracks. Emma North and is the solicitor the Shaun
:31:37. > :31:37.Venter's family and she told this programme what a new inquest would
:31:38. > :31:49.mean to him. This has impacted all their lives in
:31:50. > :31:53.the most devastating way. All of this pain could have been avoided if
:31:54. > :31:57.this had been properly and independently investigated at the
:31:58. > :32:00.outset. All of it could have been avoided. So it's a very, very
:32:01. > :32:07.important day-to-day but also a really sad one for them. An
:32:08. > :32:14.investigation has started at London zoo into how an 18-year-old gorilla
:32:15. > :32:17.-esque scraped his enclosure. He managed to get into an area for
:32:18. > :32:26.zookeepers before eventually being shot with a tranquilliser dart.
:32:27. > :32:35.Visitors were kept inside a cafe. They said there was no danger to the
:32:36. > :32:40.public. Lord Bramall says the police have apologised to him for their
:32:41. > :32:46.handling of child sex abuse accusations.
:32:47. > :32:54.A third of hospital trusts in England have increased their car
:32:55. > :32:56.parking charges in the past year. An investigation by the press
:32:57. > :33:00.Association news agency found that some are now charging for pounds 41
:33:01. > :33:05.hour stay. It was found that most trusts didn't increase their
:33:06. > :33:10.charges, but the average rise among those who did was 15%. Researchers
:33:11. > :33:15.say they believe that a child's fussy eating is as much down to
:33:16. > :33:19.genetic influences as parenting. Scientists compared to cows and set
:33:20. > :33:24.of identical and not identical twins and found that their likes and
:33:25. > :33:27.dislikes may be inherited. There are findings have been published in the
:33:28. > :33:35.Journal of Child psychology and psychiatry.
:33:36. > :33:48.Gordon Strachan is to carry on as Scotland manager. It is understood
:33:49. > :33:52.he was considering his future after the defeat to Slovakia but it is
:33:53. > :33:56.understood he has decided to stay on for the game against England. Hull
:33:57. > :34:02.city have made Mike Phelan and their permanent head coach. He has been in
:34:03. > :34:07.the caretaker position since the departure of Steve Bruce. Sir
:34:08. > :34:11.Bradley Wiggins will not be at next week's parade celebrating the
:34:12. > :34:18.achievements of our Olympians and Paralympians. He hasn't attended one
:34:19. > :34:23.since 2004. New video technology has been introduced to rugby's top
:34:24. > :34:27.league in England, the premiership, to help doctors identifying head
:34:28. > :34:31.injuries more quickly. It is -- concussion is the most common injury
:34:32. > :34:38.Overboard and alone in the ocean for more than 28 hours
:34:39. > :34:39.except for sharks, deadly jellyfish and his hallucinations
:34:40. > :34:43.We now bring you one man's truly astonishing story of survival.
:34:44. > :34:48.Brett Archibald was on a tour boat off the coast of Indonesia
:34:49. > :34:52.with friends when he fell overboard in the early hours of the morning.
:34:53. > :34:55.I spoke to Brett yesterday, and we'll hear
:34:56. > :34:58.from him in a minute, but first this is the incredible
:34:59. > :35:02.moment he was rescued from the water by some passing Australians.
:35:03. > :35:04.This lost South African has been at sea now 29 hours
:35:05. > :35:47.Go back to that moment when you actually fell overboard.
:35:48. > :35:54.Well, I don't think I'll ever forget that moment.
:35:55. > :35:57.I had been violently ill in the boat.
:35:58. > :36:03.I'd gone on to the top deck to help one my friends.
:36:04. > :36:12.I'd gone to the side of the boat to be ill overboard
:36:13. > :36:20.And I actually woke up in the water to see my boat probably 10 or 15
:36:21. > :36:25.metres ahead of me, lights blazing, 2:30am in the morning,
:36:26. > :36:27.and them just sailing away into the night.
:36:28. > :36:32.I just knew at that moment my life was over, you know.
:36:33. > :36:39.Can you describe how you felt in that moment, and the enormity
:36:40. > :36:47.You know, I've actually read the dictionary from front to back
:36:48. > :36:50.to find one word that can just put in perspective, and
:36:51. > :36:56.But, interestingly, I never felt fear.
:36:57. > :36:59.It was almost a serene feeling, that this is where it all ends.
:37:00. > :37:01.I couldn't believe it, I was in a complete state
:37:02. > :37:07.I'm a boat skipper, I've been on the water my whole life.
:37:08. > :37:14.I could see my mate lying on the deck.
:37:15. > :37:16.I screamed, I screamed with everything I had in my lungs.
:37:17. > :37:23.I thought my lungs were actually going to come out of my throat.
:37:24. > :37:25.And I realised very quickly that there were never
:37:26. > :37:32.I put my head down, I swam with everything I had,
:37:33. > :37:35.There was no way I was going to catch a boat.
:37:36. > :37:38.Interestingly, I heard this funny sound and I thought
:37:39. > :37:46.I looked around me in the sea and it was me.
:37:47. > :37:48.It was actually this crazy noise coming out of my throat.
:37:49. > :37:53.The ordeal went on for many hours, during which you encountered
:37:54. > :38:05.Tell us in particular, first of all, about seagulls.
:38:06. > :38:07.Because here was a particularly difficult incident
:38:08. > :38:09.involving seagulls for you, wasn't there?
:38:10. > :38:14.I think my head had bobbed into the sea.
:38:15. > :38:17.This thing smacks me on the back of the head.
:38:18. > :38:19.I lifted my head up to go, what on earth was that?
:38:20. > :38:22.And out of the blue, this bird just exploded
:38:23. > :38:28.I just felt the bridge of my nose, blood start flowing.
:38:29. > :38:32.I felt like someone had hit me with a baseball bat.
:38:33. > :38:36.I looked up on these two seagulls were just dive-bombing me.
:38:37. > :38:41.They were coming from nowhere and squawking, and screaming.
:38:42. > :38:54.Jonathan Livingston Seagull was my favourite set book.
:38:55. > :38:57.And suddenly I thought, you know what, I can catch one of them
:38:58. > :39:01.I started sticking my tongue out, trying to attract them back again.
:39:02. > :39:04.I thought, in my crazy state, I thought I could actually pluck one
:39:05. > :39:07.of them out of the air, bite its head off, squeeze the blood
:39:08. > :39:12.I would have eaten that thing, feathers and all, I was so hungry
:39:13. > :39:16.And a real terror that anybody would have is sharks out
:39:17. > :39:24.You know, I thought about it so much.
:39:25. > :39:27.I don't know the exact hours, but it was probably 15 or 16
:39:28. > :39:35.I kept thinking, am I going to die, by being eaten by a shark?
:39:36. > :39:37.The next minute, something bumped me in my back left kidney.
:39:38. > :39:40.I thought it was a barracuda, a big fish, initially.
:39:41. > :39:42.Then suddenly this thing nudged me again and actually turned me
:39:43. > :39:46.I thought, it's a shark, I know it's a shark.
:39:47. > :39:48.I went under the water and started feeling around.
:39:49. > :39:52.My eyes wide open, I just saw this shark.
:39:53. > :39:55.My first thought, I remember going, oh my God, that is so big.
:39:56. > :39:58.I thought it was the size of a red bus in London.
:39:59. > :40:04.Then I looked at it, it's weird how the human mind,
:40:05. > :40:06.my first thought was, he's going to eat me.
:40:07. > :40:08.I remember lifting my throat and saying, buddy,
:40:09. > :40:12.I've dived a lot, then I very quickly calmed down.
:40:13. > :40:14.I realised it was a black tipped reef shark.
:40:15. > :40:18.I thought I could catch this guy and he would take me to a reef.
:40:19. > :40:21.I started in my mind plotting, I even used the words,
:40:22. > :40:24.Bear Grylls, take off your mask, here comes Archie, and I'm
:40:25. > :40:26.going to catch you, and you're going to take me to land.
:40:27. > :40:29.I've never been so devastated in my life.
:40:30. > :40:32.That was the closest I came to crying, when the shark
:40:33. > :40:36.You need to understand, it was the first time I had
:40:37. > :40:38.found something I thought could save my life,
:40:39. > :40:45.When you talk about what you went through, it sounds like you were
:40:46. > :40:50.You couldn't really do much to help your own survival out
:40:51. > :40:57.Did you just have to kind of ride it out?
:40:58. > :41:01.Did you feel there was anything active that you could do?
:41:02. > :41:04.People said, did you try to swim somewhere?
:41:05. > :41:16.I just tried to swim to keep my head up.
:41:17. > :41:18.I just designed this weird breaststroke, pulled my arms,
:41:19. > :41:20.kicked my legs, pulled my arms, kicked my legs.
:41:21. > :41:23.I used that as a counting mechanism to kind of work out time.
:41:24. > :41:25.But I think, more than anything, my family.
:41:26. > :41:28.I'm married to the most amazing woman, my kids were nine
:41:29. > :41:31.I just remember talking to them all the time saying,
:41:32. > :41:35.I'm hanging in there for you, I'm going to do this.
:41:36. > :41:38.And then I would get so exhausted and something would happen.
:41:39. > :41:42.But every time I gave up, something happened.
:41:43. > :41:44.I had weird hallucinations, I got bumped by sharks,
:41:45. > :41:52.Every time I could do no more, something happened.
:41:53. > :41:54.A crazy thing happened that got me going again,
:41:55. > :42:07.I was a big proponent of chasing all the wrong things.
:42:08. > :42:12.Money was very important, big houses, cars.
:42:13. > :42:15.I think now I have what I call my three Fs.
:42:16. > :42:20.I find if I focus on those three things and they are all working
:42:21. > :42:24.in sync, they are all in harmony, the rest just clicks in place.
:42:25. > :42:27.Yeah, my life is a very different place to what it was
:42:28. > :42:36.Brett Archibald with his extraordinary story of survival.
:42:37. > :42:43.Lots of you getting in touch on whether it kids are born fussy
:42:44. > :42:49.eaters. Stuart says," put food on the table and kids will need if they
:42:50. > :42:56.are hungry. Kids create fussy eaters with constant pandering". Betty
:42:57. > :43:07.says, "I have a three-year-old boy who doesn't want to eat, except for
:43:08. > :43:11.sausage and chips. Another says my child was the same, I'm not
:43:12. > :43:16.surprised with today's research. Another says, try this, you might
:43:17. > :43:20.like it, but don't worry if you don't. Don't put that out in their
:43:21. > :43:30.minds. It's negative behaviour and when constantly used will encourage
:43:31. > :43:34.the child not to try new foods". Another says, "I believe fussy
:43:35. > :43:36.eating is a choice and if a child is hungry, they will eat". Let us know
:43:37. > :43:40.what you think. When you or a relative have to go
:43:41. > :43:43.into hospital it can be a traumatic experience,
:43:44. > :43:46.and probably one of the last things you want to worry
:43:47. > :43:48.about is the cost of parking. But some hospitals are now
:43:49. > :43:50.charging more than ?3 for an hour's stay -
:43:51. > :43:53.the highest is ?4. A third of all hospitals in England
:43:54. > :43:55.have increased their average charge for a three hour stay over
:43:56. > :43:58.the last year. England is the only part
:43:59. > :44:00.of the UK where hospitals routinely charge for parking,
:44:01. > :44:02.and the costs vary widely So are these charges a necessary
:44:03. > :44:06.evil, or a stealth tax Let's talk to Caroline Davey,
:44:07. > :44:09.chief executive of the charity Bliss that has been campaigning
:44:10. > :44:12.on the issue, Andrew Haldenby - director of the think tank Reform -
:44:13. > :44:15.and Michael Seres, a patient who regularly attends hospitals
:44:16. > :44:25.in Oxford and is forced to shell out Thank you for joining us. Michael,
:44:26. > :44:33.how much have you spent on parking? Last week I spent ?14. To hospital
:44:34. > :44:37.visits. I go to hospital at least twice a month so it is a continuing
:44:38. > :44:41.monthly cost of on average ?7 a visit. KERS I'm there for longer
:44:42. > :44:46.than an hour or two for my treatment. How do you feel about
:44:47. > :44:52.having to pay the that? I'm frustrated. I understand that trusts
:44:53. > :44:54.are under financial constraints and difficulties but long-term patients
:44:55. > :44:58.like myself who have no choice but to keep coming back on a regular
:44:59. > :45:04.basis should be offered concession, season tickets. You know when you
:45:05. > :45:07.become a long-term patient you're going back continuously. To have to
:45:08. > :45:14.remember to have cash... Not every Ms machine takes cards. Some are
:45:15. > :45:19.dependent on where you are. It adds to the stress.
:45:20. > :45:25.Have you not been offered concessions, no? Caroline, you have
:45:26. > :45:30.complained about parking charges in hospitals, what is your view, and
:45:31. > :45:34.the fact that they are going up? Bliss has been campaigning for a
:45:35. > :45:38.number of years, we support premature and sick babies and the
:45:39. > :45:42.parents of those babies who had to spend hours and hours in hospital
:45:43. > :45:47.every day. Parents are part of care team in a neonatal unit, things like
:45:48. > :45:51.breast-feeding and skin to skin contact for many hours at a time are
:45:52. > :45:55.vital to the recovery of those babies. Parents are being charged,
:45:56. > :46:00.as research today shows, many hundreds of pounds over their four,
:46:01. > :46:09.eight, ten, 12 weeks or more that some of the most sick babies in
:46:10. > :46:11.hospital. The last thing any parent wants is to see their newborn baby
:46:12. > :46:14.sick, vulnerable, fragile in hospital, and the last thing they
:46:15. > :46:17.need on top of a stress and strain is thinking about car parking
:46:18. > :46:23.charges. Andrew, you are in favour of charges
:46:24. > :46:27.that hospitals? Why? You use the phrase necessary evil, I think that
:46:28. > :46:31.is exactly what it is. I think if any of us were running a hospital or
:46:32. > :46:34.the Secretary of State for Health or whatever it might be, defending car
:46:35. > :46:40.parking charges in hospitals would not be the best part of our job. But
:46:41. > :46:44.the reason they are there, I think, is that in many towns, if the
:46:45. > :46:49.hospital's car parks were free, they would fill up because there is a
:46:50. > :46:53.competition, rather than go to the car park down the road which
:46:54. > :47:01.charges, people could go to the NHS one which was free. I think it is a
:47:02. > :47:06.key, key reason to keep some spaces available for patients. You think
:47:07. > :47:11.that is more the driver than making money for the trust? Some trusts are
:47:12. > :47:17.making ?3 million a year? Car parks cost money. If only they didn't, but
:47:18. > :47:21.they do, they have to be maintained and there will always be some cost.
:47:22. > :47:25.The total amount raised for the NHS is ?200 million a year, a huge
:47:26. > :47:29.amount. If that was not raised, the money would have to be found
:47:30. > :47:35.somewhere else, meaning less treatment. At my complete sympathy
:47:36. > :47:37.is with both my colleagues here, because some years ago the
:47:38. > :47:43.Department of Health said there should be concessions for disabled
:47:44. > :47:46.people, people visiting gravely ill patients, patients who are in
:47:47. > :47:51.regularly. These concessions schemes should be there. Actually, I think
:47:52. > :47:55.they would be complicated to arrange but it is the policy to have those
:47:56. > :48:01.schemes. I think they are there in order to preserve some spaces for
:48:02. > :48:04.patients. Do you accept that? Michael? In Scotland, Wales and
:48:05. > :48:10.Northern Ireland, they do not have car parking charges, the devolved
:48:11. > :48:16.nations have waived them, it is only in England but hospital car parks
:48:17. > :48:18.routinely charge. We can also say that Scotland, Wales and Northern
:48:19. > :48:24.Ireland do not have prescription charges. But if it is an argument
:48:25. > :48:30.about keeping car park 34 patients...? But it is partly about
:48:31. > :48:35.money. I think prescription charges are quite sensible, even though they
:48:36. > :48:40.are not very popular. But England's NHS has less money than those other
:48:41. > :48:45.countries. Michael? There are not enough car parking spaces that
:48:46. > :48:49.hospitals anyway, on average, I know from myself and the trust that I go
:48:50. > :48:54.for, it is at least 30 minutes driving around to find the parking
:48:55. > :48:58.space, so often your free 30 minute period is taken up trying to find a
:48:59. > :49:02.space. So the argument that you are leaving spaces open for patients is
:49:03. > :49:09.not correct, there are spaces there. And in this day and age, with
:49:10. > :49:12.technology and credit card machines, it can be difficult to provide
:49:13. > :49:17.season tickets, sadly, for those that had to go a bit longer, free
:49:18. > :49:21.charges if you are disabled badge holder, which does not exist at the
:49:22. > :49:26.moment. It cannot be difficult to work out. As a patient, you can into
:49:27. > :49:30.hospital and go into a parallel universe which operates in a
:49:31. > :49:34.different system. If we could keep tighter control hospital times, I
:49:35. > :49:40.could get a text in the morning, my clinic is running late. If your
:49:41. > :49:45.ticket runs out, have you ever had a fine for that? No, because I have
:49:46. > :49:50.begged and pleaded so I have been very lucky. But you have been given
:49:51. > :49:55.one and got out of paying it? Exactly. Parents in hospital for a
:49:56. > :49:58.long time, a baby takes a turn for the worse or they are in the middle
:49:59. > :50:02.of breast-feeding and they get a fine and they struggle to find the
:50:03. > :50:06.money. Government guidance to Michael years ago said that trust
:50:07. > :50:11.should offer concessions or free parking to certain groups, but that
:50:12. > :50:15.guidance is not being followed. There is real inconsistency across
:50:16. > :50:19.trusts. Some babies are transferred from one hospital to another, they
:50:20. > :50:23.may go to one where they get a discount scheme and in the other
:50:24. > :50:29.hospital they are being charged ?20 or ?30 a day to visit their baby,
:50:30. > :50:34.and they are in every day. Should hospital parking facility ever find
:50:35. > :50:37.somebody who has outstayed their -- ever find somebody who has outstayed
:50:38. > :50:45.their ticket because their clinic has run over or whatever? Hospital
:50:46. > :50:51.car park is different to normal car park, as we have already said, the
:50:52. > :50:53.Government has said these car parks had to be run sensitively and
:50:54. > :51:04.certain people should not be discriminated against. My sympathies
:51:05. > :51:11.slightly go to the people running the hospital, I suspect they did not
:51:12. > :51:15.get into medicine to run car parks. It is a challenge to them that they
:51:16. > :51:20.have to get it right. Sundre said I had weeks of treatment for
:51:21. > :51:26.leukaemia, I spent ?600 on parking costs plus petrol costs, I lost my
:51:27. > :51:32.job and was bringing up two children. I did publicity for Mac
:51:33. > :51:37.Millan. Nothing has changed, even my consultant was angry. Michael, do
:51:38. > :51:41.you feel that you are subsidising an NHS Trust? Ultimately I am paying to
:51:42. > :51:46.be treated. I understand your argument about trusts needing to
:51:47. > :51:49.raise money, and I am sympathetic, but I'm not sympathetic to the
:51:50. > :51:55.inconsistencies. The Government has issued two guidelines that trusts
:51:56. > :51:59.have blatantly ignored. There is such disparity. Tell us the rules of
:52:00. > :52:02.the game, make them consistent, treat people fairly and then you
:52:03. > :52:07.understand what you are working on. At the moment it is complete this
:52:08. > :52:13.parity. I am paying to see my doctor, yes. And the costs are
:52:14. > :52:16.off-loaded onto carers, in our case parents of babies in neonatal care,
:52:17. > :52:22.whereas having a baby in hospital is already more expensive, as the
:52:23. > :52:26.person has just written in. The trouble, the petrol costs, the
:52:27. > :52:31.additional food costs of the very expensive hospital canteens. It
:52:32. > :52:36.already costs a lot. Will anything change? We have been talking about
:52:37. > :52:40.this for a long time. And we have to continued until it changes. I know
:52:41. > :52:44.the NHS has money worries but we should not have to accept that, we
:52:45. > :52:57.should say, what does it cost to offer that free at the point of use,
:52:58. > :53:00.including things like getting to hospital for your treatment or
:53:01. > :53:02.visiting your sick baby in hospital? Andrew, could that ever be worked
:53:03. > :53:05.out? Covering the costs of running the car parks and making sure that
:53:06. > :53:07.people like Michael do not have too paid? That is Government policy now,
:53:08. > :53:11.and hospitals should be held accountable. But the small charges
:53:12. > :53:17.that we pay as patients, prescription charges, dentistry, car
:53:18. > :53:24.parks, it is not much on they are there for a reason. Michael,
:53:25. > :53:26.Caroline Andrew, thank you. -- Caroline and Andrew.
:53:27. > :53:28.We invited the three Trusts with the most expensive car
:53:29. > :53:30.parks onto the programme to explain their prices,
:53:31. > :54:05.Royal Surrey County Hospital sent us a statement though.
:54:06. > :54:13.That statement comes from Basildon Hospital.
:54:14. > :54:19.Now, we will seize on dogs which may look cute, but they have an
:54:20. > :54:23.important job to do, and demand for them has been growing. Charity
:54:24. > :54:29.Canine Partners says it has struggled to keep up for request
:54:30. > :54:34.with assistance dogs, with requests increasing fourfold. Each dog costs
:54:35. > :54:37.?20,000 from selection as a puppy to retirement and it takes to Macri is
:54:38. > :54:41.to train and to help people with complex disabilities with everything
:54:42. > :54:45.from collecting post to fetching help. 20 many Mac Rizzelli has a
:54:46. > :54:51.number of debilitating conditions leaving her needing a wheelchair
:54:52. > :54:54.24-hour care. -- 29 your old Sally. Her assistant stock has given her a
:54:55. > :54:59.level of independence she never thought possible.
:55:00. > :55:01.Without Ethan, I don't feel like I'm Sally any more.
:55:02. > :55:03.In a practical way, he's my hands and legs.
:55:04. > :55:06.But in a psychological and emotional way, it's Sally and Ethan.
:55:07. > :55:13.So, my life was completely normal until I was 17.
:55:14. > :55:17.I was gradually confined more and more, from being out
:55:18. > :55:19.and dancing, or doing drama or skiing, to not being able
:55:20. > :55:42.And I gradually deteriorated from there.
:55:43. > :55:45.I was in hospital for about eight months, I think.
:55:46. > :55:49.I was gradually - well, actually, rapidly losing weight
:55:50. > :55:54.and the ability to speak or to do any movements for myself.
:55:55. > :55:57.I just had movements in my right hand.
:55:58. > :56:00.There were a couple of times that my parents and my boyfriend,
:56:01. > :56:04.who was up in Edinburgh, were called to say,
:56:05. > :56:12.They had to come and say goodbye to me a few times,
:56:13. > :56:17.I still thought, even then, when they told me I was dying,
:56:18. > :56:23.When I first came out of the hospital, I was unable
:56:24. > :56:30.If I had to go to the toilet, they would have to transfer me
:56:31. > :56:33.to a manual wheelchair and push me, or transfer me to the commode.
:56:34. > :56:39.It's very disempowering, as a 20-something,
:56:40. > :56:46.if you can't do anything for yourself at all.
:56:47. > :57:34.Where I've had a faint or a fall, or when I'm about to have a seizure,
:57:35. > :57:43.one, he can specifically go and get someone and lead them back to me,
:57:44. > :57:47.or the other way is if we are in my flat, he's trained to press a bell,
:57:48. > :57:51.Wherever he is in the house, he is able to get to that bell,
:57:52. > :58:37.I go into hospital a lot, often in emergency situations.
:58:38. > :58:44.I have really scary seizures and those things are not normal.
:58:45. > :58:47.But having the idea that Ethan was going to come into it -
:58:48. > :58:50.obviously, I didn't know it was going to be Ethan,
:58:51. > :58:53.that there might be some dog out there that was going
:58:54. > :59:16.He likes to get out pink pants, I don't know why.
:59:17. > :59:21.But that's not a problem, is it, Ethan?
:59:22. > :59:28.It doesn't matter if I'm in my pyjamas, if I've just come out
:59:29. > :59:31.of hospital and haven't had my hair washed for ten days,
:59:32. > :59:37.if I've just had a seizure and my joints are all dislocated,
:59:38. > :59:40.he will always love me and come to me, often with kisses.
:59:41. > :59:48.It feels amazing to have someone who will always be there and always,
:59:49. > :59:54.You brought me the post, thank you!
:59:55. > :00:20.He's just like a constant source of support, but also of fun.
:00:21. > :00:24.Now let's catch up with the weather. What
:00:25. > :00:36.rest of today have in store for us? A cold wind blowing across northern
:00:37. > :00:42.Scotland. Showers in Scotland fading to allow Sunny spells to come
:00:43. > :00:46.through. A lot of dry weather, temperatures around 12-15dC. In
:00:47. > :00:53.tonight we will keep a few showers going especially into northern
:00:54. > :00:59.Scotland, an area of rain pushing up England. It will be a bit colder
:01:00. > :01:05.than this in the clear rural parts, down into single figures. Saturday,
:01:06. > :01:13.a wet and windy start for Northern England and Scotland, heavy showers
:01:14. > :01:16.feed into southern England and South Wales as the afternoon goes on. In
:01:17. > :01:20.between the two weather systems, a lot of dry and sunny weather around
:01:21. > :01:24.and it starts to turn milder through the weekend. Sunday you may get a
:01:25. > :01:27.dry start but it will be thundery and possibly heavy showers around.
:01:28. > :01:32.That is your forecast. Hello, it's Friday October
:01:33. > :01:34.14th, it's 10am. I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria
:01:35. > :01:35.Derbyshire. Welcome to the programme
:01:36. > :01:37.if you've just joined us. Is your child a fussy eater,
:01:38. > :01:42.or were you one as a child? Well, relax, because scientists have
:01:43. > :01:44.found some kids are We will be discussing it with food
:01:45. > :01:57.writer Annabel Karmel. Lord Bramall tells the BBC he has
:01:58. > :01:58.had a personal apology from the police all the way they handled
:01:59. > :02:00.child abuse allegations. Barak Obama's presidency
:02:01. > :02:02.is almost at an end, so what will his legacy be
:02:03. > :02:04.for young black Americans? Newsbeat has been travelling around
:02:05. > :02:07.the US to speak to the young people who've grown up
:02:08. > :02:15.under his leadership. When he got elected, everyone had
:02:16. > :02:21.very high expectations, perhaps unrealistic expectations. Black
:02:22. > :02:26.people admit you would see a change economically and be able to see
:02:27. > :02:36.families rise out of poverty. And a lot of that is just not occurred.
:02:37. > :02:40.A four month old baby boy has died, and his 22 month old brother has
:02:41. > :02:42.been seriously injured, after being attacked by a dog.
:02:43. > :02:44.Police in Essex were called to Harwich Road
:02:45. > :02:47.They say the surviving toddler, his brother, was left
:02:48. > :02:50.An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.
:02:51. > :03:01.MPs have attacked the Government's handling of rail franchises,
:03:02. > :03:03.saying passengers have been let down badly.
:03:04. > :03:05.The Transport Select Committee is urging ministers to get
:03:06. > :03:09.And in a report it highlights what it calls the woeful experience
:03:10. > :03:11.of Southern commuters, who've suffered months
:03:12. > :03:14.of disruption because of strikes and staff shortages.
:03:15. > :03:16.A judge is to decide whether there should be a fresh
:03:17. > :03:19.inquest into the death of a young soldier at Deepcut
:03:20. > :03:23.Private Sean Benton from Hastings was found with bullet wounds
:03:24. > :03:26.to his chest in 1995 while on a training exercise
:03:27. > :03:29.Emma Norton is the solicitor for Sean Benton's family.
:03:30. > :03:31.She told this programme what a new inquest
:03:32. > :03:43.They've now been without Sean for longer than they had him. This has
:03:44. > :03:49.impacted all of their lives in the most devastating way. Both of his
:03:50. > :03:52.parents died recently, so his siblings are now taking this
:03:53. > :03:55.forward. All of this pain could have been avoided if this had been
:03:56. > :03:59.properly and independently investigated at the outset. All of
:04:00. > :04:01.it could have been avoided. So it's a very, very important day-to-day
:04:02. > :04:08.but also a really sad one for them. An investigation's started
:04:09. > :04:11.at London Zoo into how a 29 stone Kumbuca, an 18-year-old
:04:12. > :04:16.silverback, managed to get out of his den and into an area
:04:17. > :04:19.for zookeepers, before eventually being shot
:04:20. > :04:20.with a tranquilliser dart. Visitors were kept locked
:04:21. > :04:23.inside a cafe while armed police The zoo said there was no danger
:04:24. > :04:35.to members of the public. We can talk now to someone who was
:04:36. > :04:39.at the zoo yesterday, Jonathan Moore, who was attending a
:04:40. > :04:45.conference. Tell us when you became aware there was a problem? They
:04:46. > :04:49.sounded the siren, it was really loud and was followed by something
:04:50. > :04:55.like, "Staff, please proceed to the gorilla enclosure". I was right next
:04:56. > :04:59.to it, so like an idiot, I just thought, let's go in. I went
:05:00. > :05:05.directly into the heart of the gorilla enclosure. And what did you
:05:06. > :05:09.see that? You don't know what to expect and it was completely empty.
:05:10. > :05:16.There were no people inside and I couldn't see any gorillas or any
:05:17. > :05:19.chimps. I saw two staff members looking a bit stressed out but still
:05:20. > :05:24.professionally composed and I jokingly asked them, did the gorilla
:05:25. > :05:33.escaped? They said, "We don't know, please get out". So I got out and
:05:34. > :05:36.yeah... I understand you ended up taking shelter in a bird enclosure.
:05:37. > :05:40.Did you hear anything from any members of staff about how the
:05:41. > :05:46.gorilla had escaped from it then? Not from the staff at all. The next
:05:47. > :05:51.staff person I met, on my way out, was just telling me like, look at
:05:52. > :05:55.please, get away quickly. I saw other people running away so I
:05:56. > :06:01.thought OK, this is serious. I thought they may not have known
:06:02. > :06:06.exactly what happened, so they would just be keeping everyone safe and
:06:07. > :06:10.asking us to go to the nearby building, so that's what we did. Did
:06:11. > :06:15.you feel under threat or in any danger? Did you think that the
:06:16. > :06:24.situation was handled well? Well, you know, our company does research
:06:25. > :06:27.into these kind of associations and when you hear gorilla and some kind
:06:28. > :06:32.of noise in a bush, what do you think? You get really afraid and
:06:33. > :06:36.your heart is pumping. There were people around me, older people and
:06:37. > :06:40.people with anxiety disorders who were obviously not feeling so well.
:06:41. > :06:46.And yeah, you're really scared. A gorilla is serious business. You
:06:47. > :06:50.didn't hear anyone say that the gorilla had escaped via a service
:06:51. > :06:53.entrance? I have a note that you had perhaps spoken to a member of staff
:06:54. > :07:01.who said something about the gorilla escaping by a service entrance? I
:07:02. > :07:08.don't know whether that's correct or not, we were allowed back and when I
:07:09. > :07:14.spoke to staff members that is what they told me. A colleague saw the
:07:15. > :07:17.gorilla charge the class a couple minutes before this whole thing
:07:18. > :07:22.happen, before the alarm sounded, and the glass didn't budge, it's
:07:23. > :07:26.very safe. So the only explanation really is that he escaped through
:07:27. > :07:33.some kind of door. But it's a little bit hearsay. I think they're correct
:07:34. > :07:37.in saying no one was in danger at any point. Thank you for sharing
:07:38. > :07:41.your experiences with us today. You're welcome.
:07:42. > :07:44.Thousands of mourners in Thailand are taking part in a ceremony today
:07:45. > :07:52.to honour their king, who died yesterday aged 88.
:07:53. > :07:55.People have been lining the streets to pay their respects.
:07:56. > :07:56.The official mourning will last a year.
:07:57. > :07:59.Thailand's king was the world's longest-reigning monarch.
:08:00. > :08:13.In January Barack Obama will leave the White House,
:08:14. > :08:17.His election in 2008 - as the first black President
:08:18. > :08:19.of the United States - symbolised great change.
:08:20. > :08:21.But what has his legacy been for young black Americans?
:08:22. > :08:29.What about fussy eating? Do you believe that some kids are just born
:08:30. > :08:34.fussy? Also let us know what you think about hospital parking. Let's
:08:35. > :08:41.catch up with the sport. Good morning. We're talking rugby
:08:42. > :08:47.union this morning and tonight sees the first match in the premier
:08:48. > :08:52.European competition, the Champions Cup, as Glasgow host Leicester. I'm
:08:53. > :08:55.joined by the former Scottish fly-half Craig Charm is in our
:08:56. > :09:02.London studio. Thanks so much for holding us. We've been hearing about
:09:03. > :09:04.video technology being used in England to help doctors more quickly
:09:05. > :09:09.identify concussions. Is that something you have experience with?
:09:10. > :09:12.I've experienced concussion a few times over the years at club rugby
:09:13. > :09:16.and internationally as well with Scotland. I got knocked out in Paris
:09:17. > :09:22.playing against the French and woke up in the changing rooms. I've
:09:23. > :09:26.experienced it, it's not great, but nowadays there is so much being done
:09:27. > :09:29.for player welfare and making sure the players are looked after really
:09:30. > :09:39.well and there are no after-effects. Everything 's been done. Saracens
:09:40. > :09:44.are doing that and it's fantastic news. Concussion is obviously still
:09:45. > :09:48.a massive problem within rugby as a professional sport. How much do you
:09:49. > :09:53.think this kind of technology will help to address that problem? I
:09:54. > :10:00.think anything that can be done to help is a step forward. As I said
:10:01. > :10:03.before, player welfare is massive. You don't want to discourage young
:10:04. > :10:08.players from playing it. Parents worried about their kids playing...
:10:09. > :10:14.It's a contact sport, there's going to be bangs and knocks, but we've
:10:15. > :10:18.got to look at everything we can to make it as safe as possible. We've
:10:19. > :10:24.been talking a little bit about the Champions Cup and the fact that the
:10:25. > :10:29.night Glasgow host Leicester. Scottish success has been in kind of
:10:30. > :10:35.short supply in that competition. Do you feel that this season, Scottish
:10:36. > :10:39.teams can make an impact? Glasgow are the only Scottish team in the
:10:40. > :10:44.competition. Edinburgh had a success a couple of the other guy when they
:10:45. > :10:51.got to the semifinal. But I think this year, Townsend has got a squat
:10:52. > :10:54.and Glasgow deep enough and strong enough to compete. The big challenge
:10:55. > :10:57.is getting out of the group. If they can get out of the group, they've
:10:58. > :11:03.got a great opportunity to go further. It's a tough group with
:11:04. > :11:07.Racing and Munster and Leicester. The day's match is really important
:11:08. > :11:17.because to win the first game is massive. Who do you think might win
:11:18. > :11:22.it? Racing won it last year. There's 506 teams out there. Sorry, Saracens
:11:23. > :11:30.won it last year, I beg your pardon. I think Saracens are strong. Bath
:11:31. > :11:34.are going great at the moment. -- there are five or 16 is out there.
:11:35. > :11:38.You can't really tell until after the first few games have taken place
:11:39. > :11:42.and then we will hopefully be able to tell more in a few weeks' time.
:11:43. > :11:46.Craig, thanks so much for joining us. Great to hear your insight.
:11:47. > :11:52.Former Scottish fly-half Craig charmers. There will be five live
:11:53. > :11:58.commentary of that match between Glasgow and Leicester tonight.
:11:59. > :12:02.A 4-month-old baby has died, and his 22-month-old brother
:12:03. > :12:06.is seriously injured, after being attacked by a dog.
:12:07. > :12:10.Police in Essex were called to Harrich Road
:12:11. > :12:16.They say the surviving child was left with "life-changing injuries".
:12:17. > :12:18.An adult was slightly hurt in the attack.
:12:19. > :12:21.Our correspondent Gareth George is in Colchester.
:12:22. > :12:25.What can you tell us about what happened here? Well, a police Gordon
:12:26. > :12:33.is still in place here. -- a police cordoned. What we know
:12:34. > :12:37.so far is that the police were called here yesterday afternoon just
:12:38. > :12:41.after 3pm by the Ambulance Service and three people were found injured
:12:42. > :12:44.inside the property. This morning we had the confirmation from Essex
:12:45. > :12:52.Police that a baby boy has been pronounced dead and we now know that
:12:53. > :12:56.that baby boy was four months old. A young child, also a boy, is being
:12:57. > :13:03.treated for serious injuries which have been described as life
:13:04. > :13:08.changing. We now know that that boy is 22 months old. Essex Police have
:13:09. > :13:10.told us this is a tragic incident and specially trained officers are
:13:11. > :13:14.providing support to the family at this difficult time. The dog has
:13:15. > :13:21.been removed from the property by Essex Police. We don't know what
:13:22. > :13:24.type of dog that was. It's been reported that perhaps it's a
:13:25. > :13:27.Staffordshire type of dog but that Bedale has yet to be confirmed.
:13:28. > :13:31.People I've spoken to in the area say the family hadn't lived here
:13:32. > :13:33.that long but neighbours have expressed their sadness about what's
:13:34. > :13:35.been taking place. Let's speak to Ryan O'Mara,
:13:36. > :13:38.the editor of K9 magazine, and a former professional dog
:13:39. > :13:39.trainer. He joins us via webcam
:13:40. > :13:45.from Nottinghamshire. Thank you very much for joining us.
:13:46. > :13:50.We don't know the type of dog involved here. Our reporter saying
:13:51. > :13:56.it's reported locally that it's a Staffordshire type of dog. Can any
:13:57. > :14:01.dog turn and attack children? Absolutely. My starting position on
:14:02. > :14:04.all dogs is, it's not so much that all dogs are potentially dangerous,
:14:05. > :14:09.but all dogs are potentially unpredictable. One of the problems
:14:10. > :14:14.that we've got in this country is a lack of awareness really about what
:14:15. > :14:20.dogs are. Dogs are animals alike people, they are prone to acting in
:14:21. > :14:23.one way on one day and on another day, acting completely differently.
:14:24. > :14:28.What we have to acknowledge is that the two things that dogs have got is
:14:29. > :14:32.a personality of their own and a mouth that is full of teeth will
:14:33. > :14:35.start so ultimately we have to treat every single dog as if it is
:14:36. > :14:38.potentially capable of fighting someone will stop but are some
:14:39. > :14:41.breeds more unpredictable and dangerous than others?
:14:42. > :14:50.Are some breeds more dangerous and unpredictable than others? No, and
:14:51. > :14:55.this is part of the problem we need to try and fix. The danger dogs act
:14:56. > :15:02.-- Dangerous Dogs Act claimed there were four dogs breeds who were
:15:03. > :15:05.particular dangerous. What that implies is that they are taken care
:15:06. > :15:09.of because they are banned and every other type of dog is safe because it
:15:10. > :15:12.is not banned. All of the expert studies, all the analysis that has
:15:13. > :15:19.been done around the world says that this isn't the case. The dangerous
:15:20. > :15:24.message that that can pose to people is that it is the dog's fault. When
:15:25. > :15:27.a dog does something wrong, it's our responsibility as its own and the
:15:28. > :15:30.person that is responsible for making sure people don't come to any
:15:31. > :15:34.harm as a result of something our dog does. We need to make sure that
:15:35. > :15:39.the Dangerous Dogs Act is reformed, do away with this idea that certain
:15:40. > :15:45.breeds are at fault for the great ills we are suffering.
:15:46. > :15:51.When you say any dog can turn and attack, what do you say about the
:15:52. > :15:55.way that people should handle bipeds, particularly if they're
:15:56. > :16:00.right young kids around? We need to look at two things, the first one is
:16:01. > :16:03.the understanding of dogs. It is my personal experience based on what I
:16:04. > :16:08.have seen over the past 20 years that if 50% of dogs are well trained
:16:09. > :16:13.in that country, -- this country, I think that is very generous. I need
:16:14. > :16:17.very good dog owners at my local park, and I meet people whose him
:16:18. > :16:20.become to control their dogs. If you can't control your dog and you have
:16:21. > :16:24.not put the requisite amount of training in with your dog, and
:16:25. > :16:28.socialisation, then these are the problems that later occur if you
:16:29. > :16:32.then think our dog is great with kids, it is fine to play in the
:16:33. > :16:40.garden or to leave the kids and attended with dogs. There is no
:16:41. > :16:44.upside to doing that. A dog is a dog, it is responsibility to make
:16:45. > :16:48.sure they behave. Secondly, and think the Government could do this,
:16:49. > :16:52.is looking up the supply of dogs in this country. If we are talking
:16:53. > :16:59.regularly added themes, sadly, regularly, about losing children to
:17:00. > :17:04.dog attacks, who breeds and supplies dogs? We have an unregulated
:17:05. > :17:10.production line of dogs in this country. If we really are committed
:17:11. > :17:14.to fixing these problems, we have to address the unregulated supply of
:17:15. > :17:24.dogs and two move away from this idea that it is just certain slant
:17:25. > :17:26.abilities to breed good dog is make sure we train when we get them.
:17:27. > :17:28.Ryan, thank you. In January Barack Obama
:17:29. > :17:30.will leave the White House, His election in 2008 -
:17:31. > :17:34.as the first black President of the United States -
:17:35. > :17:36.symbolised great change. But what has his legacy been
:17:37. > :17:39.for young black Americans? The BBC's Newsbeat travelled
:17:40. > :17:41.across the country to speak to those who voted for him,
:17:42. > :17:44.and the young people who have grown Barack Obama will be the 49th
:17:45. > :17:56.President of the United States. His campaign harnessed hope
:17:57. > :18:01.and promise to change. But tonight, because of what we did
:18:02. > :18:04.on this day, in this election, at this defining moment,
:18:05. > :18:12.change has come to America. Eight years since his supporters
:18:13. > :18:22.celebrated victory, have things We've travelled across the US
:18:23. > :18:30.to speak to people who voted for Barack Obama, to see
:18:31. > :18:32.what they think of his When he got elected,
:18:33. > :18:37.everybody had very, Perhaps, maybe,
:18:38. > :18:42.unrealistic expectations. For a lot of people, it meant
:18:43. > :18:46.you would see change economically. It meant that you would see families
:18:47. > :18:58.be able to rise out of poverty. And a lot of that, we see, just did
:18:59. > :19:01.not occur. And we look to the future with those
:19:02. > :19:09.who have grown up in a country run by him. I don't know what will
:19:10. > :19:11.happen. Some people really, really love him and some people really,
:19:12. > :19:29.really don't. For this Californian, 2008 would be
:19:30. > :19:35.a year that changed his life forever. I just joined the military,
:19:36. > :19:40.because there is a lot of fierce nationalism still over what happened
:19:41. > :19:45.with 9/11. It was the first time I had ever voted. I remember sitting
:19:46. > :19:50.around hoping that Barack Obama was going to get in, because he was
:19:51. > :19:54.really young, very charismatic, and he looked like he was probably the
:19:55. > :20:02.smartest person in the room. But on election day itself, Rico had
:20:03. > :20:05.other things on his mind. I was getting ready to deploy to
:20:06. > :20:09.Afghanistan, so I was not really able to share that moment with
:20:10. > :20:15.everybody else. I think I might have been in Germany all Kuwaiti at the
:20:16. > :20:19.time. So we did not really have a huge celebration. -- Germany all
:20:20. > :20:28.Kuwaiti. But back yet, everyone was going nuts.
:20:29. > :20:31.One of those was this woman. She lives in Chicago and works as a
:20:32. > :20:37.school administrator in the south side of the city. I told people as a
:20:38. > :20:41.kid that I wanted to be president, they pointed me to a map that had a
:20:42. > :20:45.picture of all the presidents that we had in the past and said we would
:20:46. > :20:48.never have an African American one. I had an immediate rush back to that
:20:49. > :20:57.time and wanted to find that teacher and let her know that you was wrong.
:20:58. > :21:02.Looking back on it, I think I could not cast a bowled from here on out
:21:03. > :21:06.that would be as lamentable as -- mementos or meaningful to me on a
:21:07. > :21:14.personal level as that one was. I had been working the night shift.
:21:15. > :21:18.We were in the Persian Gulf area. Navy veteran manual watched history
:21:19. > :21:26.unfolds while serving on a warship. -- Emmanuel. The image picked up, it
:21:27. > :21:33.was an image of Senator Obama with a flag-waving in the background. A
:21:34. > :21:38.cheesy background. Fireworks were going. The 44th president, I just
:21:39. > :21:41.jumped up and started screaming and hollering, everybody looked to me
:21:42. > :21:45.like I was crazy and eventually looked at the TV to see what was
:21:46. > :21:49.going on. It felt like I was invincible. I had a stern talking to
:21:50. > :21:55.afterwards so I guess I was that invincible!
:21:56. > :21:59.Barack Obama's promised changes to the health care system and his
:22:00. > :22:03.handling of the economic crisis are often seen as the most important
:22:04. > :22:10.things he has done. Whether people agreed with or not.
:22:11. > :22:16.But since 2008, other issues have divided the nation. Police shootings
:22:17. > :22:22.of unarmed black men have sparked protests in cities across the US,
:22:23. > :22:28.highlighting racial tension. This is not just a black issue, not just a
:22:29. > :22:32.Hispanic issue. This is an American issue. Emmanuelle grew up on the
:22:33. > :22:38.south side of Chicago and has seen the relationship between police and
:22:39. > :22:42.young back -- black people close up. To see hearts and minds change about
:22:43. > :22:46.African-Americans in the country on the world will be difficult to
:22:47. > :22:51.overcome. Having a black president changes stuff. You do not
:22:52. > :22:56.automatically assume that I am a criminal, I could be the future
:22:57. > :23:01.president. He is a very articulate person. He
:23:02. > :23:06.handled the situation is eloquently. But towards the ends of his term,
:23:07. > :23:10.now, he is being a bit more vocal in saying some things. I think it would
:23:11. > :23:16.have been a bit more powerful if he had done them a little bit more.
:23:17. > :23:23.There is a big chunk of our fellow citizenry that feels as if because
:23:24. > :23:27.of the colour of their skin, they are not being treated the same. But
:23:28. > :23:33.for Emmanuel, these problems are part of a wider issue in poor black
:23:34. > :23:38.communities across the country. Go and gang violence is common in
:23:39. > :23:43.places like this. 500 people have died as a result in Chicago alone
:23:44. > :23:49.this year. We had a neighbourhood youth killed
:23:50. > :23:53.not too far. We both grew up here. That is the scary thing. There have
:23:54. > :23:56.been shootings right across the street at that house, that house was
:23:57. > :24:03.shot at a few times. Lots of people I grew up with are
:24:04. > :24:07.not living any more, are serving 20 or 30 years in prison. I am guilty
:24:08. > :24:10.of it myself, I have been riding around in cars with people I
:24:11. > :24:15.probably should not have been riding around with and if we got pulled
:24:16. > :24:19.over, I was not doing anything wrong or participating in any activities
:24:20. > :24:23.but, you know, one African-American in a car with drugs equals four
:24:24. > :24:27.African-Americans in a car with drugs.
:24:28. > :24:34.This woman says that the protests show the pace of change is too slow.
:24:35. > :24:38.I live in Chicago, that is ground zero for police brutality. That
:24:39. > :24:42.makes things harder. It makes things harder to reflect a map and know
:24:43. > :24:46.that President Obama is also from south side Chicago. Knowing the gun
:24:47. > :24:50.and gang violence rates here, knowing it is hard even for students
:24:51. > :24:56.year to come to school Sundays and having to cross gun turf, having to
:24:57. > :25:00.cross gang turf, having to come from communities that are, to be honest,
:25:01. > :25:04.extremely broken. That is a hard sell for me, and I did not expect
:25:05. > :25:12.the president to wave a magic wand and things change, but on that same
:25:13. > :25:21.token I think I expected a lot more. Shut it down! Shut it down!
:25:22. > :25:28.But as well as protests, there has been celebration. This is awesome!
:25:29. > :25:34.That gay marriage is now legal in the whole country, I'm so excited.
:25:35. > :25:38.Amazing, we have waited a long time. Last year, the highest court in
:25:39. > :25:46.America ruled that same-sex marriage was illegal nationwide. It's, you
:25:47. > :25:52.know... I am a young gay person of colour, and so things have been
:25:53. > :25:56.going pretty well for me. I love Barack Obama. Everything he has been
:25:57. > :26:02.pushing have worked out great for me. Let's see, now. We got... The
:26:03. > :26:07.gay rights movement has finally been able to achieve, I would say, a good
:26:08. > :26:10.80% of what we wanted to do. We have got marriage. There is a lot more
:26:11. > :26:18.accidents of the LGBT community as a whole. -- a lot more acceptance of.
:26:19. > :26:24.Working out pretty well. It is the new normal. People say now, I am
:26:25. > :26:29.gay. Whatever. He would not have had that eight years ago, people would
:26:30. > :26:32.be like what?! We are a giant leap closer to a quality today. It is
:26:33. > :26:36.proud to be an American and understand that the highest court in
:26:37. > :26:40.our land has validated our relationship.
:26:41. > :26:45.Today we can say, in no uncertain terms, that we have made our union a
:26:46. > :26:51.little more perfect. But did Barack Obama's focus on LGBT
:26:52. > :26:54.writes Nina lack of progress on race relations?
:26:55. > :26:57.I think this President and administration has worked very
:26:58. > :27:02.diligently in the LGBT community, and I am a huge supporter of that
:27:03. > :27:05.work. But I think that presupposed and kind of took over a lot of the
:27:06. > :27:09.other policy goals and initiatives he was working towards the
:27:10. > :27:16.beginning. I think LGBT writes were an easy win for the president,
:27:17. > :27:21.partially because of the Ciara we are in. And the LGBT lobby is very
:27:22. > :27:25.large and influential and very monetary. I did not expect him to
:27:26. > :27:27.come in and change all things at once, that was one area where I
:27:28. > :27:41.think he fell short. Good evening. Tonight I can report
:27:42. > :27:46.to the American people and to the world that the United States has
:27:47. > :27:49.conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of
:27:50. > :27:53.Al-Qaeda. Osama bin Laden died at the hands of
:27:54. > :28:00.US special forces that this compound in Pakistan, a moment many Americans
:28:01. > :28:04.had waited years for. It is a victory for which Obama, as
:28:05. > :28:09.commander-in-chief, will partly be remembered. Bin Laden's actions on
:28:10. > :28:14.September the 11th lead to long, drawn-out military action by the US
:28:15. > :28:19.in Afghanistan and Iraq. It encouraged many Americans, like
:28:20. > :28:25.Rico, to serve. It was not quite like I imagined. I imagined it would
:28:26. > :28:28.be like Saving Private Ryan or something, or a video game, where
:28:29. > :28:40.you fire them off and do this other stuff. It was a lot more confused. I
:28:41. > :28:42.would say two out of the four firefights I have been in, I was
:28:43. > :28:45.wearing sandals. We are running around and we like, who is shooting
:28:46. > :28:47.at us, what time is being attacked? Nobody knows what is going on,
:28:48. > :28:52.people are running all over the place, grabbing weapons to fire at
:28:53. > :28:57.the person he was randomly joule wielding pistols for some reason.
:28:58. > :29:03.We're just looking at their shooting. And the person with the
:29:04. > :29:06.shotgun was just like... The mark 19 automatic grenade launcher, it is a
:29:07. > :29:13.grenade machine gun. That was pretty much what did it. But that was one
:29:14. > :29:17.of our first cases of all that. Everyone therefore the most part was
:29:18. > :29:22.18 or 19, we had come out of basic training. -- everyone that, for the
:29:23. > :29:26.most part. Obama has dramatically reduced the number of US troops in
:29:27. > :29:31.Afghanistan, they are now only there to help local forces keep control.
:29:32. > :29:34.I don't think he was a reticent leader, I think he knew enough to
:29:35. > :29:37.know that he did not understand everything about the military,
:29:38. > :29:43.because he did not serve himself, that he had lots of people who had,
:29:44. > :29:46.and lots of advisers who were very intelligent much regard. But I think
:29:47. > :29:55.he understood that when you are digging yourself into a hole, the
:29:56. > :29:58.way to stop getting deeper is to stop that and try to climb out of
:29:59. > :30:00.it. It stunned a lot of people because they were saying, OK, why
:30:01. > :30:04.did we lose this? Barack Obama already cut and run. No, we lost
:30:05. > :30:09.because it was lost the minute we went in there. Going to Afghanistan
:30:10. > :30:16.and putting your life on the line debit thing else, it was worth it to
:30:17. > :30:18.me, personally, but from a grand geopolitical perspective, I don't
:30:19. > :30:23.really know how much of the difference we made.
:30:24. > :30:28.His foreign policy has faced criticism. A lack of strategy to
:30:29. > :30:32.tackle Isis, allowing the war in Syria to continue and a failure to
:30:33. > :30:36.close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
:30:37. > :30:40.The previous administration was very, I would say, aggressive in
:30:41. > :30:45.their beliefs of the world and how they handled things. The president,
:30:46. > :30:50.sometimes to the detriment, wanted to go to the appropriate process and
:30:51. > :30:53.make sure he was not being heavy-handed. Lots of people said he
:30:54. > :30:57.led from behind but I think he gave others opportunity to take
:30:58. > :31:01.ownership. I think you did a really good job in trying to engage other
:31:02. > :31:06.foreign leaders to say that this is not only Irish Yukoner it is
:31:07. > :31:11.everybody's, we need your support. -- this is not only answer is shoe.
:31:12. > :31:18.Thousands of American soldiers have been killed since 2001, Rico's
:31:19. > :31:22.colleague was one. He had only been there two weeks, he was a late
:31:23. > :31:27.deployer. He got there near the middle of the deployment, he was
:31:28. > :31:33.therefore two weeks and got blown up in an IED. He had some little kids.
:31:34. > :31:38.I don't know, I am still processing. A person is there one day and gone
:31:39. > :31:46.the next. -- one minute. You take personal victories and losses where
:31:47. > :31:52.you can. As far as foreign policy, I don't necessarily think that we
:31:53. > :31:56.would have been able to do better and anybody else. -- and anybody
:31:57. > :32:10.else. These students in Washington, DC
:32:11. > :32:16.have grown up with Barack Obama as president. For most of them, he's
:32:17. > :32:20.the only president they really remember. As America prepares to
:32:21. > :32:25.elected next leader, some of them will be voting for the first time.
:32:26. > :32:28.It's been really cool to have a Democratic president, and
:32:29. > :32:34.African-American president, a huge part of that. There have been ups
:32:35. > :32:38.and downs. There are still lots more issues when it comes to LGBT writes,
:32:39. > :32:46.in grain braces, ingrained sexism in our society that we need to keep
:32:47. > :32:52.moving forward. We are a generation who doesn't know much other than
:32:53. > :32:58.him. It's kind of awesome we've had a black president. 2016 is a scary
:32:59. > :33:06.year so far. People have reason to be afraid. Terrorism is scary. It's
:33:07. > :33:17.really difficult. I do know what's going to happen. It makes you feel
:33:18. > :33:24.proud as an American. My party has really supported me and who I am.
:33:25. > :33:36.It's really incredible how we've gone from 2004 when it was demonised
:33:37. > :33:41.to where we are now, when gay rights is the norm and mainstream. I think
:33:42. > :33:45.it's just amazing how far we've come. I'm really hoping the next
:33:46. > :33:50.eight years look very similar to the past eight years. I think things
:33:51. > :33:54.have got considerably better. He's always been a very polarising
:33:55. > :33:55.character. You have people who really really love him and then you
:33:56. > :34:09.have people who really really don't. Because the president has been able
:34:10. > :34:13.to elevate the discussion, has been able to make people uncomfortable, I
:34:14. > :34:17.think sometimes you have to make people uncomfortable to get to a
:34:18. > :34:21.certain level of change. That, in and of itself, has been something
:34:22. > :34:27.that I think he can hang his hat on and something that as an
:34:28. > :34:39.African-American I'm proud of. I have a six-year-old daughter and
:34:40. > :34:42.when she goes to school next year, she will be learning about the
:34:43. > :34:47.presidents and she might think it is odd that this one president looks
:34:48. > :34:50.like her and all the previous 43 didn't! When I was growing up you
:34:51. > :34:59.had a couple of black actors and that was it. No body dogs about
:35:00. > :35:02.immigrants, nobody talked about people as individuals or eagles or
:35:03. > :35:03.anything else. Now it's completely different, things are completely
:35:04. > :35:12.different. That film was by Radio 1 News beat
:35:13. > :35:14.and if you want to see it again or tell your friends about it, it is on
:35:15. > :35:19.the BBC iPlayer now. Breaking news just in, we've just
:35:20. > :35:23.heard that the High Court has given the go-ahead for a second inquest
:35:24. > :35:35.into the death of Private Sean Benton at deep cut Barrett's 21
:35:36. > :35:39.years ago. The original inquest recorded a verdict of suicide. His
:35:40. > :35:46.family have always disputed that. They went to the High Court to try
:35:47. > :35:50.to get a second inquest ordered and they have won that case this
:35:51. > :35:54.morning. The High Court giving the guy had for a fresh inquest into the
:35:55. > :35:59.death of Private Sean Benton at the deep cut Barrett's.
:36:00. > :36:03.Fussy eating is mainly genetic, according to the latest
:36:04. > :36:07.We will be talking to one of the researchers from
:36:08. > :36:09.University College London, along with food writer Annabel Karmel.
:36:10. > :36:12.Lord Bramall has told the BBC that he's had a personal apology
:36:13. > :36:18.from the police for the way they handled child abuse allegations.
:36:19. > :36:27.We'll get more details from columnist and writer Charles Moore.
:36:28. > :36:34.Now let's catch up with the sport. Some breaking news and Queen's Park
:36:35. > :36:37.Rangers have announced they are backing their manager, Jimmy-Floyd
:36:38. > :36:39.Hasselbaink. It follows an investigation by the club
:36:40. > :36:44.interesting by the Daily Telegraph newspaper which claimed that he had
:36:45. > :36:47.agreed to act as an ambassador for a sports company. The club say the
:36:48. > :36:49.newspaper hasn't provided evidence to them and so they are fully
:36:50. > :36:51.supporting him as club manager. Hull City have made Mike Phelan
:36:52. > :36:54.their permanent head coach. He's been acting as caretaker
:36:55. > :36:56.manager since the departure Hull are currently 15th
:36:57. > :37:01.in the Premier League table. Sir Bradley Wiggins won't be at next
:37:02. > :37:03.week's parades celebrating the achievements of our
:37:04. > :37:05.Olympians and Paralympians. Yesterday, Wiggins pulled out
:37:06. > :37:13.of the four day Abu Dhabi Tour race And new video technology has been
:37:14. > :37:18.introduced to rugby union's top league in England the Premiership,
:37:19. > :37:20.to help doctors act more quickly Concussion is the most common injury
:37:21. > :37:31.in professional rugby. That's all the sport for now,
:37:32. > :37:40.Joanna. Thanks. Those of you getting
:37:41. > :37:48.involved with your thoughts on paying for hospital parking. Andy on
:37:49. > :37:52.Facebook, "My son was taken to hospital a month ago and it was very
:37:53. > :37:58.serious. The amount we had to pay in parking fees was scandalous".
:37:59. > :38:06.Another says, "Greed, outsourcing and bad management has clearly come
:38:07. > :38:10.in". Been in magister," I paid ?148 for parking while attending to my
:38:11. > :38:21.epileptic wife and baby in intensive care. -- Dean in Manchester. Another
:38:22. > :38:25.says, "I'm about to give birth and find it astonishing that we will be
:38:26. > :38:29.paying ?3 an hour when the likelihood is that we will be in the
:38:30. > :38:36.hospital for at least 24 hours. Parking charges for expecting
:38:37. > :38:45.mothers is outrageous those quote. Another says, " we had to park
:38:46. > :38:57.outside them to arrive punctually. It's disgraceful". John on Twitter,
:38:58. > :39:05.I agree that charging like that is wrong. "We Had apparently overstayed
:39:06. > :39:08.the 30 minutes allowed for visitors to the bereavement department when
:39:09. > :39:13.we collected his death the delegates. To target someone at one
:39:14. > :39:20.of the lowest points in their life is despicable and beyond reproach".
:39:21. > :39:29.Michael says, "I'm a cancer patient and have to visit the hospital on a
:39:30. > :39:31.regular basis. I have no problem paying the parking fees. Too many
:39:32. > :39:37.people want something for free. Let's look in a little more detail
:39:38. > :39:40.now about the apology that Lord Bramall has had,
:39:41. > :39:42.from the Metropolitan Police over the way it handled
:39:43. > :39:44.child abuse allegations. Of course, Lord Bramall was cleared
:39:45. > :39:47.of any wrongdoing at all - and had always denied it -
:39:48. > :39:50.but it wasn't until ten months after a raid on the Bramalls' house
:39:51. > :39:53.that he was given that news. During that terrible
:39:54. > :39:54.period of waiting, So the apology was reported first in
:39:55. > :39:58.the Daily Telegraph this morning - and the paper's former editor
:39:59. > :40:06.Charles Moore is joining me now. Thank you much for joining us. It's
:40:07. > :40:11.been a long awaited apology. What's your reaction now it's come? Well,
:40:12. > :40:15.of course, it's good that it's come. But you have to remember why it
:40:16. > :40:20.came, which is that they are refusing to publish the report of
:40:21. > :40:26.their behaviour, the police are refusing. The head of the
:40:27. > :40:30.Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, went to see Lord Bramall
:40:31. > :40:33.to give the apology but of course he couldn't fully tell him what he was
:40:34. > :40:37.apologising for because he won't release the whole of the report.
:40:38. > :40:43.While I know Lord Bramall welcomes the apology, he also still doesn't
:40:44. > :40:49.really know the full nature of what the police did and how wrong what
:40:50. > :40:55.they did... I mean come on he knows from his own experience, but they've
:40:56. > :40:59.not admitted it. You know Lord Bramall and I know you don't regard
:41:00. > :41:04.yourself as a friend but you do know him. How has he been coping through
:41:05. > :41:13.this? Well, he's a very brave old gentleman. He is 92, I think. He
:41:14. > :41:16.fought at D-Day. He's run the British Armed Forces, he's had to
:41:17. > :41:23.deal with some difficult things. But that doesn't mean it's not very all,
:41:24. > :41:27.what happened to him. The rule that you are innocent until proven guilty
:41:28. > :41:32.was completely ignored. Police descended on his house, 20 of them
:41:33. > :41:38.came in and searched the house for ten hours, all on the basis of the
:41:39. > :41:42.evidence of one total fantasist. And they still didn't apologise, even
:41:43. > :41:46.though they have privately admitted that they knew pretty quickly that
:41:47. > :41:49.it wasn't true, but they didn't apologise to him because they were
:41:50. > :41:52.investigating other people accused in the same way and they didn't
:41:53. > :41:57.want, as they put it, to compromise that. So he knew, well, obviously he
:41:58. > :42:02.knew he was innocent anyway, and he was just kept waiting, as you said
:42:03. > :42:07.in his report, -- your report, his wife died. He's a tough man but it's
:42:08. > :42:10.been very hard for him and very hard for all the other people in this
:42:11. > :42:15.situation, such as the widow of Lord Brittan for example. When an
:42:16. > :42:19.allegation is taken to police, is the only way they can investigate it
:42:20. > :42:24.to actually do exactly what they did in this case? Is there any way
:42:25. > :42:27.around scrutinising the investigation? I see what you're
:42:28. > :42:30.saying but I think it is really wrong, this. The police get
:42:31. > :42:35.accusations about everything, every day. One of the most important thing
:42:36. > :42:39.is the police have to do is form a decent way of working out whether an
:42:40. > :42:44.accusation is likely to be true, in all departments of life. And if you
:42:45. > :42:48.suspend any critical judgment about accusations in the case of
:42:49. > :42:52.accusations of child abuse, then you promote the most enormous wrong
:42:53. > :42:57.because you waste a huge amount of time and money and even more
:42:58. > :43:00.importantly, you ruin the lives of people who face these accusations.
:43:01. > :43:06.This can't be good for the victims of child abuse and it can't be good
:43:07. > :43:13.for justice. Are we where we are because previously critical judgment
:43:14. > :43:17.was suspended to far the other way? That may well be true but it is
:43:18. > :43:21.really a case of too wrong is not making a right. If you don't presume
:43:22. > :43:26.innocent then you presume guilt. And if you presume guilt, people like
:43:27. > :43:31.Lord Bramall or any schoolteacher or clergyman or child carer or whatever
:43:32. > :43:35.is open to the most appalling threats. This has happened to
:43:36. > :43:42.hundreds of people and it has ruined their lives. Should there be
:43:43. > :43:46.anonymity for the accused? Well, at Parliament on Monday, Lady Brittan
:43:47. > :43:51.and Cliff Richard and Paul Gamba Genie are all going to be talking a
:43:52. > :43:59.demeaning about this -- meeting about this. There's a strong case
:44:00. > :44:02.for having anonymity until charge. Because otherwise, this ruination
:44:03. > :44:08.that I'm speaking of becomes commonplace. Interesting. Anonymity
:44:09. > :44:13.until charge, because the police argument is always that when a name
:44:14. > :44:16.is out there, it's helpful for their investigation because if there are
:44:17. > :44:21.other victims, they will come forward, which obviously helps build
:44:22. > :44:26.a case. Would that be damaged if there were anonymity until charge? I
:44:27. > :44:29.think the police have some reason in that but they mustn't start using
:44:30. > :44:36.individuals who are accused of something as hostages, tethered goat
:44:37. > :44:39.is to bring out others. Also there is an obvious unfairness here
:44:40. > :44:44.because if the person accused is named and the accuser is not named,
:44:45. > :44:48.in fact is never named, the inequality between the two becomes
:44:49. > :44:53.very great. So I think something that have to be done about this. You
:44:54. > :44:57.said Lord Bramall is a strong character but to go through this at
:44:58. > :45:02.his stage of life must have been incredibly hard? Yes, his wife was
:45:03. > :45:05.very ill and she died without knowing that he had been cleared.
:45:06. > :45:11.These are horrible things to happen and something similar, Lady Brittan
:45:12. > :45:15.is younger, 76 today actually, but she had to go through this, police
:45:16. > :45:21.knew that charges weren't true but they didn't tell Lord Brittan before
:45:22. > :45:26.he died. These are very bad, dreadful things do happen to people.
:45:27. > :45:31.Thanks very much indeed for joining us. Now let's talk about something
:45:32. > :45:34.clearly different. We all know kids who would eat
:45:35. > :45:37.chocolate all day long and hate Maybe you were like that when you
:45:38. > :45:43.were a child. Well, you may be relieved
:45:44. > :45:45.to know that scientists at University College London have
:45:46. > :45:47.found that fussy eating in kids is mainly genetic,
:45:48. > :45:50.rather than down to poor parenting. By studying the behaviour of twins,
:45:51. > :45:52.the researchers found that refusing to try new foods or being picky
:45:53. > :45:56.about what they ate had little to do Let's talk now to Annabel Karmel,
:45:57. > :46:00.a children's food expert who helps Also joining us is Ciara Atwell -
:46:01. > :46:04.her daughter Aoife only eats beige Sophie Mei Lan Slack
:46:05. > :46:08.and her daughter Sophie says she had to make
:46:09. > :46:19.food fun to help her And Andrea Smith is joint lead
:46:20. > :46:31.on the study from Thank you all for joining us.
:46:32. > :46:36.Andrea, kids are born fussy? How have you managed to come to that
:46:37. > :46:42.assessment? Well, we studied twins over at UCL College London, and we
:46:43. > :46:48.look at how much two types of twins are alike for these behaviours, then
:46:49. > :46:52.we can tease out the relative effects of genes and the environment
:46:53. > :46:57.on these traits in early childhood. So when you conclude that they are
:46:58. > :47:01.born fussy, is that they are predisposed to like or not like
:47:02. > :47:06.certain things, or they are just generally fussy, meaning they take a
:47:07. > :47:09.wary approach to food? We found that there are small genetic differences
:47:10. > :47:14.in their behaviours and temperament or the way that they perceive food
:47:15. > :47:20.that give them a tendency to be more fussy about foods. We know that
:47:21. > :47:26.these traits can still be modified, it is not a definite destiny. OK, we
:47:27. > :47:31.will talk more about that in a moment. Ciara, you have a child who
:47:32. > :47:38.will only eat beige food? She did, she is much better now. She is five
:47:39. > :47:43.now. She was two going on three, she was incredibly fussy. She liked
:47:44. > :47:49.beige food, or bland foods. How did that start, what happened? I blame
:47:50. > :47:54.myself. Well, you shouldn't, but tell us more. I feel much better
:47:55. > :47:59.more. I blamed myself at the time, I was pregnant with my son and I felt
:48:00. > :48:03.very sick throughout most of my pregnancies alight, naturally, eight
:48:04. > :48:09.very bland foods. Plain pasta, bread, rice, that of thing. And I
:48:10. > :48:15.think that then rubs off on her and made her a fussy eater and made it
:48:16. > :48:18.not so well. When my son was born and my normal appetite for regular
:48:19. > :48:23.and healthy food and vegetables and fruit came back, she would not eat
:48:24. > :48:28.them any more. Until I realised that maybe I had played a part in the
:48:29. > :48:33.situation. Andrea, what do you think? Parents are very important as
:48:34. > :48:36.role models, so your child will have undoubtedly seen you at the table
:48:37. > :48:42.and mimicked your behaviours at some point, so I am sure that will have
:48:43. > :48:46.been a factor. Let's bring in Sophie, you have your 20-month-old
:48:47. > :48:52.daughter Arianna with you. Is she fussy? To start off with, because of
:48:53. > :48:56.pregnancy and breast-feeding and my love of spicy food, she was not
:48:57. > :49:00.fussy to start with, and the same with my eldest child. It is since
:49:01. > :49:03.they have been mixing with their friends that they have started to
:49:04. > :49:11.develop habits that they don't like certain food. So we have always
:49:12. > :49:17.tried to be really positive and focused on making food firm. So how
:49:18. > :49:21.do you do that? We don't add pressured to dinner times, we don't
:49:22. > :49:26.force them to finish a portion, because kids don't need that much to
:49:27. > :49:30.eat. We put out a range of different home-made things and if they don't
:49:31. > :49:36.like certain things, we won't call it bad, we will just call food good,
:49:37. > :49:40.it is about sustaining and health. So we try to just keep dinner time
:49:41. > :49:45.is relaxed, or sometimes we even have picnics just to make it a bit
:49:46. > :49:51.more phone and get the kids involved in the cooking and even in the
:49:52. > :49:56.growing self vegetables. -- just to make it a bit more fun. We try to
:49:57. > :50:01.encourage them so that they have knowledge and pride in what they'd.
:50:02. > :50:07.Annabel Karmel, most people who have kids will probably have seen your
:50:08. > :50:13.books, you advocate, to some extent, the sort of food that we are seeing
:50:14. > :50:17.behind us, making food bun? Sun Times, mostly it is just about good
:50:18. > :50:21.food. Is it pandering when you do that sort of thing? Know, sometimes
:50:22. > :50:27.they will say it is you keep that they have not tried it. We start off
:50:28. > :50:31.with good intentions, like fat lady. Babies eat quite well between about
:50:32. > :50:34.six months and ten or 11 months, their growth rate slows down, as
:50:35. > :50:40.does their appetite and they become more mobile. Things go wrong, they
:50:41. > :50:43.only want eat with their fingers and they become more independent. Then
:50:44. > :50:47.parents panic, they find a few things that the kids like and they
:50:48. > :50:50.give them those foods. That encourages extreme fuzziness. So I
:50:51. > :50:57.think it is extremely important to keep trying new foods. If your child
:50:58. > :51:01.only likes junk food, make your own junk food, I marinate chicken in
:51:02. > :51:05.buttermilk with crushed rice crispies and breadcrumbs and cheese
:51:06. > :51:11.and they are delicious. Hard work for the parents. So easy to make.
:51:12. > :51:16.All very small fish pies or cottage pies in small ramekins. A dollop on
:51:17. > :51:21.a plate looks unattractive, and individual ramekin looks great, they
:51:22. > :51:24.will eat it. Let's get the scientific view. If your child is
:51:25. > :51:29.genetically predisposed to being fussy, can you force it? That is
:51:30. > :51:33.definitely what you should not do, you should not force your child.
:51:34. > :51:39.Everybody has touched already on the fact that we need to make mealtimes
:51:40. > :51:43.fun. But I is why shouldn't you force it? It increases the anxiety
:51:44. > :51:48.and makes it a negative experience for the child. This is an innate
:51:49. > :51:53.traits, we want to work with the child, not against them. So in
:51:54. > :51:58.making it a more pleasant and fun experience we can overcome these
:51:59. > :52:01.genetic predisposition is. Have you encountered that, have you
:52:02. > :52:05.tried to force... When you are dealing with this beige food thing
:52:06. > :52:09.it must have been stressful? Absolutely, and my initial reaction
:52:10. > :52:14.was to get annoyed and get cross and say, you must eat this, you won't
:52:15. > :52:18.believe the table, you won't have pudding. I quickly learned that is
:52:19. > :52:24.absolutely the wrong thing to do. I think in courage and my daughter to
:52:25. > :52:27.talk about her food, bring her shopping, show her ingredients and
:52:28. > :52:32.how food was made has made a massive difference -- I think encouraging my
:52:33. > :52:36.daughter. It has made a massive difference to what she eats and how
:52:37. > :52:41.she eats. Since she started school, they talk about food and what it
:52:42. > :52:48.does for them, so not just about food being good or bad or junk food,
:52:49. > :52:53.more about food sustaining them, helping with energy, with
:52:54. > :52:57.schoolwork, that is important. Sophie, I think you have put your
:52:58. > :53:01.baby to one side because she was being Wrigley, that you are still
:53:02. > :53:05.with us. It sounds like you had infinite patience when it comes to
:53:06. > :53:08.food with your kids, do you ever you worry that you might be pandering to
:53:09. > :53:13.them because when they get older they will just have to eat what they
:53:14. > :53:17.are given, especially at school? I like to see that we are giving our
:53:18. > :53:24.children positive choices. I know myself from having a history of
:53:25. > :53:27.eating disorders that if anyone puts pressure on eating a certain food,
:53:28. > :53:30.straightaway you don't want to eat it because it builds up your
:53:31. > :53:36.anxiety. With our kids we have always given them fairly healthy
:53:37. > :53:40.adult food, but we're not perfect, occasionally we eat fast food. It is
:53:41. > :53:44.definitely about balance and giving the child the option. As I said
:53:45. > :53:50.before, if we make it from scratch but involve them in that process,
:53:51. > :53:53.they often really prefer that kind of food because it gives them much
:53:54. > :54:00.greater sense that they are having something nourishing that have made.
:54:01. > :54:04.I think if we force foods down them it will only develop a negative
:54:05. > :54:08.image of food and we should see it as something very positive that we
:54:09. > :54:13.should enjoy. It is not about forcing them to finish their plates,
:54:14. > :54:16.it is about being very positive and encouraging when they do eat new
:54:17. > :54:23.things. My eldest daughter, because she loves making muscles with my
:54:24. > :54:28.husband, will eat mussels with garlic sauce and also is a fantastic
:54:29. > :54:32.things. It is more when she is around her peers that she develops
:54:33. > :54:35.these negative connotations of certain foods. Annabel, Brendan and
:54:36. > :54:41.Mel says I think it is there enough when a child does not like the taste
:54:42. > :54:45.of certain foods -- Brendan on e-mail says. Exactly, and you can't
:54:46. > :54:50.force a child to read something. Sometimes we never let kids be
:54:51. > :54:59.hungry, always giving them snacks is not necessarily healthy. It is not
:55:00. > :55:01.so bad if they miss a meal, a hungry child is less fussy. Sometimes you
:55:02. > :55:05.don't have time to cook, there are options. I write lots of cookery
:55:06. > :55:07.books but produce food for supermarkets, Jurgen Teater masala
:55:08. > :55:17.is one of the most popular meals. Children are much more sophisticated
:55:18. > :55:21.than we give them credit for -- chicken tikka masala. When I wrote
:55:22. > :55:29.my first book, everybody said babies only likes bland food but I put in
:55:30. > :55:33.garlic and spices and they loved it. Rob on e-mail says I believe
:55:34. > :55:37.children pick up on panic and despair over the seating and learn
:55:38. > :55:42.it attracts attention. If my son tried something and did not eat it,
:55:43. > :55:46.that was OK. Is that part of the dynamic, you're talking about the
:55:47. > :55:51.genes, but kids picking up on what is going around? Kids definitely
:55:52. > :55:58.pick up on that, we suggest that parents take these encounters and
:55:59. > :56:03.sends out of the meals I -- mealtime situation and make the game a
:56:04. > :56:07.positive encounter -- and made it into a game or a positive encounter
:56:08. > :56:10.is that they do not sense the panic as much.
:56:11. > :56:17.Can you completely create a fussy eater from what goes on around them?
:56:18. > :56:21.I suppose you can, but it is more a two-way relationship between the
:56:22. > :56:26.parent and child. You pick up on each of the's tendencies. And
:56:27. > :56:30.allergies, lots of people avoid certain foods like peanuts and it
:56:31. > :56:34.makes children anxious. In the research now shows you should not
:56:35. > :56:38.avoid things like peanuts and less a child has an analogy. Peanut butter
:56:39. > :56:41.on toast is good for you and the more you a child has analogy. Peanut
:56:42. > :56:43.butter on toast is good for you and the more you will bite them the more
:56:44. > :56:45.difficult it is for the child because they do not build of
:56:46. > :56:47.antibodies. Thank you all for joining us.
:56:48. > :56:53.They're getting more details on the decision to allow a new inquest the
:56:54. > :56:57.Private John Benton, one fall macro soldiers who died of Deepcut army
:56:58. > :57:06.barracks in Surrey. -- Private Sean Benton. He was found with five chest
:57:07. > :57:09.wounds caused by a gun in 1995. The judge has said that the initial
:57:10. > :57:14.decision was suicide that fresh evidence has come to light casting
:57:15. > :57:17.doubt on the correctness of that decision. He added that under
:57:18. > :57:21.article two macro of the Human Rights Act there is material by
:57:22. > :57:26.questions the care that Private Sean Benton received by the Army at that
:57:27. > :57:30.time. His family has just spoken outside court.
:57:31. > :57:33.For more than 20 years we have waited for a thorough, independent
:57:34. > :57:36.investigation into what happened to Sean. Because of that terrible
:57:37. > :57:40.delay, our parents are no longer alive to see this day. We have
:57:41. > :57:48.always been tormented by thoughts of what Sean went through at Deepcut.
:57:49. > :57:51.If his death had been properly investigated from the start, we
:57:52. > :57:55.could have been saved years of uncertainty and pain, and that
:57:56. > :58:00.should be a source of great shame to the British Army and the Ministry of
:58:01. > :58:03.Defence. We really welcome today's decision and look forward to finally
:58:04. > :58:09.finding out what happened to our brother. That was the solicitor for
:58:10. > :58:13.the family, speaking on behalf of Sean Benton's brother and sister on
:58:14. > :58:18.that news that a second inquest will go ahead into his death.
:58:19. > :58:30.Much more are mushrooming. -- much more on that ruling. Thank you for
:58:31. > :58:32.your company, have a lovely day.