:00:09. > :00:15.The Conservatives hold o nto David Cameron's former
:00:16. > :00:17.parliamentary seat in Witney, but their majority is slashed
:00:18. > :00:21.Plus, former soapstar Tracy Brabin wins the seat left vacant
:00:22. > :00:32.Remembering the Aberfan disaster 50 years ago,
:00:33. > :00:34.when a mountain of coal waste killed 144 people,
:00:35. > :00:45.Later today, the Prince of Wales unveils a memorial, we talk to one
:00:46. > :00:47.survivor. What's life like for people living
:00:48. > :00:50.under the Heathrow flight path? We've spent 24 hours with one family
:00:51. > :00:53.to find out how loud the planes are and what an extra runway
:00:54. > :01:08.will mean for them. This is a quiet cul-de-sac road I
:01:09. > :01:12.will stay on for the next 24 hours, you cannot hear the traffic from the
:01:13. > :01:14.main road, no tubes or railways, what you can hear is the constant
:01:15. > :01:27.sound of those. Welcome to the programme,
:01:28. > :01:31.we're live until 11 this morning. Also today - we'll have details
:01:32. > :01:35.of new research which shows drinking just two cans of fizzy drinks a day
:01:36. > :01:37.can increase your risk Drinks containing artificial
:01:38. > :01:47.sweeteners can also Do get in touch on all the stories
:01:48. > :01:52.we're talking about this morning. And if you text, you will be charged
:01:53. > :01:56.at the standard network rate. The Conservatives have held
:01:57. > :02:18.on to David Cameron's former seat The Tory party's share of the vote
:02:19. > :02:22.fell from 60%, to 44%. Our correspondent is in Westminster, we
:02:23. > :02:28.will talk about Batley Spen in a moment but a cut to the Tory
:02:29. > :02:30.majority in Witney. The new MP is a local barrister, Robert Courts. The
:02:31. > :02:35.most significant thing about this result is the fact if you look back
:02:36. > :02:40.to the last general election when David Cameron took the seat with a
:02:41. > :02:45.thumping majority, 60%, that is down to 45%. The party taking the credit,
:02:46. > :02:55.the Liberal Democrats, who came second, pushing Labour into third
:02:56. > :02:58.place. We should remember it was a very low turnout in this by-election
:02:59. > :03:00.and the Liberal Democrats put in a huge amount of resources. The party
:03:01. > :03:03.says this is a verdict on the government's approached the Brexit,
:03:04. > :03:07.people signalling that they want a closer relationship to the EU than
:03:08. > :03:11.the government has signalled. The Conservatives say that is not the
:03:12. > :03:16.case and this is a great result, despite the reduced majority. They
:03:17. > :03:20.say if you look back to when David Cameron was first elected to the
:03:21. > :03:26.Witney, he got about 45% of the vote. The new MP in Tracy Brabin
:03:27. > :03:30.Daesh in Batley Spen is Tracy Brabin, the main parties did not
:03:31. > :03:36.contest that seat after the death of Jo Cox. Out of respect for Jo Cox
:03:37. > :03:40.and her family, the main political parties did not contest it so the
:03:41. > :03:44.New Labour MP is called Tracy Brabin, she was a friend of Jo Cox
:03:45. > :03:51.and a former Coronation Street actress. She took a thumping 86% of
:03:52. > :03:56.the vote, but also a low turnout in this by-election. And when she gave
:03:57. > :04:01.her acceptance speech, she said that her victory was bittersweet. She
:04:02. > :04:05.said she hoped Jo Cox would be proud that the community had spoken with
:04:06. > :04:10.one voice and she said this had been a difficult experience for everybody
:04:11. > :04:12.and the fact the by-election had had to take place was a tragedy for
:04:13. > :04:16.everyone. Thank you very much.
:04:17. > :04:18.Let's cross to the BBC Newsroom, with a summary
:04:19. > :04:39.A minute's silence will be held to mark the Aberfan disaster. It's
:04:40. > :04:43.destroyed a junior school and 116 children and 28 adults were killed.
:04:44. > :04:46.Prince Charles will attend the ceremony in Aberfan and ceremonies
:04:47. > :04:51.to commemorate the disaster will be held throughout the day.
:04:52. > :04:55.50 years later, the memories as raw as ever.
:04:56. > :04:57.Many long years have come and gone, but Aberfan keeps moving on.
:04:58. > :05:00.On the eve of the anniversary, a community came to remember
:05:01. > :05:03.what happened after one of the worst disasters of Britain's modern era,
:05:04. > :05:12.Locals had raised repeated concerns about coal waste from the nearby
:05:13. > :05:17.colliery being tipped onto the mountain above Aberfan.
:05:18. > :05:22.In the October of 1966, days of heavy rain turned that waste
:05:23. > :05:25.into slurry, and a subsidence on the morning of the 21st caused
:05:26. > :05:30.an avalanche that crashed down into the village.
:05:31. > :05:34.Bearing the brunt of the damage was Pantglas Junior School.
:05:35. > :05:37.116 children died, along with 28 others.
:05:38. > :05:42.One of the first on the scene was policewoman Yvonne Price.
:05:43. > :05:44.When we were passing the dead children through,
:05:45. > :05:47.one man just looked down, and just turned and looked at me
:05:48. > :05:52.Oh, that was one of the worst things.
:05:53. > :05:56.Today, commemorations will take place around the community
:05:57. > :06:02.With a minute's silence held at 9:15am, the time
:06:03. > :06:19.50 years on, this community still remembers a generation lost.
:06:20. > :06:23.Two British warships are shadowing an aircraft carrier and other
:06:24. > :06:31.Russian naval ships as they pass close to the UK.
:06:32. > :06:38.A Russian tug believed to be in convoy is currently entering the
:06:39. > :06:40.English channel off the coast and Ramsgate.
:06:41. > :06:42.This is the Russian aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov,
:06:43. > :06:45.passing through the North Sea believed to be headed to the eastern
:06:46. > :06:50.If this is correct, this would be its first
:06:51. > :06:54.And it could signal Russia is reinforcing its ability to strike
:06:55. > :07:02.It comes as EU leaders at the summit in Brussels condemned Russia's
:07:03. > :07:06.aggressive behaviour in Syria and beyond.
:07:07. > :07:09.There has been broad discussion about Russia.
:07:10. > :07:12.Leaders have criticised all sorts of Russian activities from space
:07:13. > :07:14.violations, disinformation campaigns, cyber attacks,
:07:15. > :07:22.interference into the political processes in the EU and beyond.
:07:23. > :07:24.The carrier and its task force has been making its way
:07:25. > :07:27.through the North Sea off the south-east coast of England
:07:28. > :07:31.and is believed to be moving towards the English Channel,
:07:32. > :07:33.shadowed by a Royal Navy frigate and destroyer, while the flotilla
:07:34. > :07:41.Russia has currently paused its military operations
:07:42. > :07:44.in Syria, but with the warships on the move,
:07:45. > :07:55.there are questions over the country's next actions.
:07:56. > :08:03.These are live pictures of part of that Russian task force now going
:08:04. > :08:08.through the English Channel. Two British warships shadowing the
:08:09. > :08:17.Russian aircraft carrier as they pass close to the UK. A Russian tag
:08:18. > :08:23.is part of the task force, also in the English Channel, and the ship is
:08:24. > :08:29.believed to be heading to the eastern Mediterranean and the Syria.
:08:30. > :08:35.Armed militants have traded government buildings in Iraq. The
:08:36. > :08:38.Islamic State group says it was behind the attack, claiming fighters
:08:39. > :08:44.broke into the Town Hall and is took control of the Town Hall. The Iraqi
:08:45. > :08:50.government and Kurdish forces are attempting to retake the IS
:08:51. > :08:54.stronghold of Mosul. Theresa May says Britain intends to remain at
:08:55. > :08:58.the heart of the EU until its departure. Addressing leaders at her
:08:59. > :09:02.first summit as Prime Minister, she made it clear the UK would play a
:09:03. > :09:06.full part in decision-making until Brexit process was completed. The
:09:07. > :09:08.German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she expected Brexit negotiations to
:09:09. > :09:11.be rough going. Universities and student unions
:09:12. > :09:13.should work together to tackle violence against women,
:09:14. > :09:16.harassment and hate crime on campus. That's one of the recommendations
:09:17. > :09:22.made in a report by Universities UK It also says there needs to be more
:09:23. > :09:25.support for victims and better Alice Irving was in her second year
:09:26. > :09:31.at university when she was raped. She says she didn't get the right
:09:32. > :09:34.support at the time, which made an already difficult
:09:35. > :09:41.experience even harder. I was kind of staunchly hoping
:09:42. > :09:47.that it wouldn't change me, because I didn't want to give him
:09:48. > :09:55.that power, but it has. Just your sense of bodily integrity,
:09:56. > :09:58.and your sense of control over your own sex life, and all
:09:59. > :10:03.of that is profoundly affected. And reclaiming that is a process,
:10:04. > :10:06.and I still haven't figured it out. Today's report by Universities UK
:10:07. > :10:09.looks at what more universities need to do to help those like Alice,
:10:10. > :10:12.and others who face harassment It says there needs to be better
:10:13. > :10:22.recording of allegations. Victims, too, should be given
:10:23. > :10:24.more support, and... We are also recommending that staff
:10:25. > :10:28.be trained so that they can provide the appropriate support
:10:29. > :10:29.and advice to the student, confer them onto the special
:10:30. > :10:32.services they need. And that training might include
:10:33. > :10:34.a member of staff knowing that they are not the right person
:10:35. > :10:38.to try and give that advice. The Government has welcomed
:10:39. > :10:40.the report, saying any form of harassment or abuse
:10:41. > :10:42.is unacceptable. It has asked Universities UK to get
:10:43. > :10:45.back to them in six months, to tell on what progress
:10:46. > :10:55.has been made. The Competition and Markets
:10:56. > :10:57.Authority is investigating whether people using sports betting
:10:58. > :10:58.and gaming websites It's looking into the terms
:10:59. > :11:05.and conditions of online betting accounts and
:11:06. > :11:07.wants to know why, in some cases, the industry's been
:11:08. > :11:09.cancelling winning bets Fossils from a newly-discovered
:11:10. > :11:15.species of dinosaur have been The giant long-necked dinosaur -
:11:16. > :11:24.Savannasaurus elliottorum - measured at least 14
:11:25. > :11:26.metres from head-to-tail. It was a plant-chomping,
:11:27. > :11:30.barrel-chested member of the sauropod group,
:11:31. > :11:32.which includes the largest land animals to ever have
:11:33. > :11:38.roamed the planet. That's a summary of
:11:39. > :11:40.the latest BBC News. Do get in touch with us
:11:41. > :11:46.throughout the morning. And if you text, you will be charged
:11:47. > :11:57.at the standard network rate. Interested in your thoughts on fizzy
:11:58. > :12:02.drinks, with the news that two a day can increase your risk of getting
:12:03. > :12:07.tight two diabetes, time for the sport. We will start with cricket.
:12:08. > :12:13.What is the latest from England's Test match against Bangladesh?
:12:14. > :12:17.Yes, thank you. A morning of mixed fortunes for England on the second
:12:18. > :12:22.day of the first test in Bangladesh. They added just 35 runs to their
:12:23. > :12:27.overnight score, Chris Woakes was out on the first delivery of the
:12:28. > :12:33.morning. Not very happy with that. England 293 all out. In reply,
:12:34. > :12:38.Bangladesh made a steady start until Moeen Ali started the ball, taking
:12:39. > :12:42.two wickets in just four to halt the progress before lunch, but the home
:12:43. > :12:50.side have dug their nails in and rallied and they are 99-2!
:12:51. > :12:54.Football, a mixed night in the Europa League for English sides?
:12:55. > :12:59.Yes, I think Manchester United will be the happier of the two this
:13:00. > :13:06.morning. Easing past Turkish side than Apache 4-1 in the group stages.
:13:07. > :13:10.And fans got to see a hint of what the world's most expensive player
:13:11. > :13:16.Paul Pogba had to offer, what a goal that was, he got a couple. And Robin
:13:17. > :13:21.van Persie got a late goal back for his team. United fans did enjoy that
:13:22. > :13:25.and former England boss Sam Allardyce was in the crowd.
:13:26. > :13:29.Not good news for Southampton, losing 1-0 at Inter Milan after
:13:30. > :13:36.missing a lot of chances. Despite Southampton's 11 shots in the second
:13:37. > :13:38.the goal. Both Southampton as Manchester United sit second. That
:13:39. > :13:42.is all the sport for now, back back to you.
:13:43. > :13:51.Thank you very much. Let's go to Aberfan.
:13:52. > :13:58.28 adults and 116 children lost their lives when 150 tonnes of coal
:13:59. > :14:09.waste slid down a hillside, before smashing into the junior school.
:14:10. > :14:15.Our reporter is there. We are just outside the Garden of remembrance in
:14:16. > :14:20.Aberfan, the very sight of Pantglas school. It was a foggy Fran Rico --
:14:21. > :14:24.Friday morning and it was the last day before half term holiday and the
:14:25. > :14:28.children had gathered in the classrooms after their Assembly and
:14:29. > :14:37.they had been singing All things Bright and beautiful. At 9:15 a.m.,
:14:38. > :14:43.a 30 foot avalanche started to slide down this mountain and crashed into
:14:44. > :14:48.the school, demolishing 18 houses and a farmhouse, 144 people lost
:14:49. > :14:54.their lives that day, 116 were children. Five teachers were also
:14:55. > :14:57.killed. The people of Aberfan, the survivors, politicians, relatives
:14:58. > :15:02.and the Prince of Wales have gathered in a cemetery behind us and
:15:03. > :15:06.out of respect, the cameras will not go this morning. The people of
:15:07. > :15:16.Aberfan and beyond falling silent to remember 50 ago.
:15:17. > :15:22.-- 50 years ago. To see the ones we loved so much come smiling through
:15:23. > :15:29.the door. Time is this move of grief's roughest edges but today we
:15:30. > :15:34.acknowledge this grief will be fresh once again. We stand united with
:15:35. > :15:35.them today, we recognise their pain and we promise to support and
:15:36. > :16:20.comfort them in any way we can. A minute's silence to remember the
:16:21. > :16:25.disaster 50 years on. A generation of children killed in the disaster,
:16:26. > :16:37.116 children died when the coal waste went into the junior school.
:16:38. > :16:41.28 adults also lost their lives. We will be talking later to one woman
:16:42. > :16:45.who survived, she was eight at the time. The government is expected to
:16:46. > :16:48.announce its decision next week on whether its preferred choice for
:16:49. > :16:51.airport expansion is Heathrow or Gatwick.
:16:52. > :16:53.It will come after decades of delays, although MPs won't get
:16:54. > :16:56.to vote on the decision for at least another year.
:16:57. > :16:58.A third runway at Heathrow is widely expected to get the go-ahead.
:16:59. > :17:01.Ahead of the decision, our reporter Divya Talwar has spent
:17:02. > :17:04.24 hours with a family living in one of Heathrow's flight path in West
:17:05. > :17:24.Around 1300 flights each day come in and out of Heathrow.
:17:25. > :17:28.These were a daily sight when I was growing up in West London
:17:29. > :17:30.under one of the flight paths, although since leaving Hounslow,
:17:31. > :17:40.I'm moving back, just for a day, to find out what it's
:17:41. > :17:45.And what they make of plans for a third runway.
:17:46. > :17:50.Many people in Hounslow rely on the airport for jobs.
:17:51. > :17:53.So this is the quiet cul-de-sac road I'm going to be staying
:17:54. > :17:57.You can't hear any of the traffic from the main road,
:17:58. > :18:13.What you can hear, though, is the constant sound of those.
:18:14. > :18:15.This is the Sheikh family, three generations under
:18:16. > :18:23.They came from Pakistan over 30 years ago and have two sons.
:18:24. > :18:32.The eldest is married and this is their two-year-old boy.
:18:33. > :18:34.I'm meeting the family for the first time.
:18:35. > :18:36.They live four miles from the airport and the planes fly
:18:37. > :18:41.What is it like living directly under Heathrow
:18:42. > :18:53.Now, when a really loud one goes by, and we just stop.
:18:54. > :19:03.It's funny, isn't it, that you have adjusted your conversation
:19:04. > :19:09.Do you hear them at four o'clock
:19:10. > :19:27.If the planes start at four in the morning and the last one
:19:28. > :19:30.is at 11, at intervals of about a minute with the planes
:19:31. > :19:37.But it's a lot of planes, it's more than 12 hours a day.
:19:38. > :19:43.There's another one, even now as we speak.
:19:44. > :19:51.We hear it all the time, when someone from outside the area
:19:52. > :19:53.comes it, they really feel the difference.
:19:54. > :19:57.Wow, my gosh, there is a plane every minute.
:19:58. > :20:04.And you would think at this time of the evening that the frequency
:20:05. > :20:07.would reduce but they haven't, have they?
:20:08. > :20:10.Yeah, and that is like two planes now within 20 seconds.
:20:11. > :20:14.It would mean the family could hear around a thousand planes a day.
:20:15. > :20:16.There are also some flights outside the scheduled flying
:20:17. > :20:20.hours of 4:30am and 11pm, although these are rare
:20:21. > :20:25.and only meant to be emergency or delayed flights.
:20:26. > :20:41.It has gone past 10.30 and I can still hear the planes.
:20:42. > :20:44.In fact they are pretty much as frequent and loud
:20:45. > :20:50.They should stop by about 11 hopefully.
:20:51. > :20:58.The planes are not supposed to take off or land at Heathrow after 11
:20:59. > :21:05.They are not obviously as frequent as they were during the day
:21:06. > :21:10.but if you are a light sleeper, you will definitely hear them.
:21:11. > :21:14.It has just gone 6.30 and I can hear the planes flying again.
:21:15. > :21:18.In fact, I can hear them at least every minute.
:21:19. > :21:21.I don't remember hearing anything after about 1,
:21:22. > :21:26.or maybe I was too tired and I slept through, but there were a couple
:21:27. > :21:34.at 5 and since 6 they have been pretty much nonstop.
:21:35. > :21:45.Yesterday, all that talk about planes made me
:21:46. > :21:49.Have you done anything at home to try to block out some of
:21:50. > :21:55.So the house, all of the windows, the bedroom windows,
:21:56. > :22:08.the side porch door and all of these windows, they are all double glazed.
:22:09. > :22:10.Just except the sheets here, they are not thick enough
:22:11. > :22:14.When we are sitting here, they are not enough
:22:15. > :22:17.to keep the sound out because they are close to us anyway.
:22:18. > :22:19.And all the sound comes from the roof.
:22:20. > :22:21.Even with the double glazing, you can still hear
:22:22. > :22:24.Yeah, the noise is still going to be there.
:22:25. > :22:27.The government is expected to announce its decision next week
:22:28. > :22:29.on whether to favour expanding either Heathrow or Gatwick Airport.
:22:30. > :22:32.The Sheikh family has adjusted to life in a flight path.
:22:33. > :22:36.That may change if there is a new runway at Heathrow
:22:37. > :22:41.with around 500 more flights each day.
:22:42. > :22:43.If it does get the go-ahead, what do you think you
:22:44. > :22:49.I think the noise pollution is really going to affect us.
:22:50. > :22:53.Even though we are sort of used to the noise,
:22:54. > :22:56.with the increased activity, I just wonder how bad it is going to be.
:22:57. > :22:59.Going forward, I think it will definitely make us think
:23:00. > :23:04.about whether we want to stay here or not.
:23:05. > :23:07.That would be a really big decision because you have lived
:23:08. > :23:15.A massive decision for us to make, but being a dad, I'm obviously
:23:16. > :23:21.I think living in this area with the pollution,
:23:22. > :23:24.with the air pollution, we would definitely think
:23:25. > :23:29.about going to an area which is free from all of that.
:23:30. > :23:32.Wouldn't you miss the sound of all these planes if you didn't
:23:33. > :23:38.I think I have seen enough planes already.
:23:39. > :24:02.Here to discuss the much-anticapted decision is Matthew Hill,
:24:03. > :24:04.from the business campaign group Let Britain Fly.
:24:05. > :24:05.And Maggie Thornburn, who lives near Heathrow
:24:06. > :24:18.The family there was saying that if it happens, they will move away. You
:24:19. > :24:24.have lived wet you have lived all your life, is that how you feel if a
:24:25. > :24:29.third runway went ahead? It would make life a lot worse of course. I
:24:30. > :24:32.have very good reasons for staying around because as you will gather
:24:33. > :24:37.from living in an area for a long time, you have all of your
:24:38. > :24:41.connections and family and your life is in an area so it would be a huge
:24:42. > :24:47.cost. I could contemplate it and possibly I would but other people
:24:48. > :24:52.don't have that option. And I know people who've thought that they were
:24:53. > :24:56.moving to somewhere safe from this sort of disruption only to find that
:24:57. > :25:01.the proposed third runway would put a flight path over their house. They
:25:02. > :25:07.have done that and now they are going to get clobbered again.
:25:08. > :25:11.Matthew, you want airport expansion, you don't mind if it is Gatwick or
:25:12. > :25:17.Heathrow, you just want a decision to be made. Certainly business needs
:25:18. > :25:21.a new runway. Heathrow is full, Gatwick will be full very soon.
:25:22. > :25:27.Because they are full it means we don't have the capacity for flights
:25:28. > :25:30.to new destinations and markets, emerging markets like China for
:25:31. > :25:37.instance. And therefore we are missing out on about ?9.5 billion a
:25:38. > :25:42.year in lost trade. We need a new runway for business and a clear
:25:43. > :25:44.decision from government, based on the clear and unanimous
:25:45. > :25:48.recommendation from the airport commission and we needed built as
:25:49. > :25:53.soon as possible. Some people might say it is easy to see the upside is
:25:54. > :25:58.when you don't experience the downsides. Do you have sympathy for
:25:59. > :26:03.people in the flight path? Airport by their nature are large and noisy
:26:04. > :26:07.and it is important the local community are engaged and consulted
:26:08. > :26:13.in a transparent way. There were missions in the airports commission
:26:14. > :26:17.for dealing with noise -- measures. It was good to see that in the
:26:18. > :26:21.Heathrow proposals they had a number of mitigating measures to try to
:26:22. > :26:26.manage the noise impact. But actually a new runway at Heathrow
:26:27. > :26:30.would provide the opportunity to be a better neighbour. With that third
:26:31. > :26:35.runway comes the flexibility to schedule flight in a different way,
:26:36. > :26:39.maybe slightly earlier in the evening, later in the morning, and
:26:40. > :26:44.therefore being a better neighbour on noise. What we really need to see
:26:45. > :26:50.is that certainty from government about where the runway will go so it
:26:51. > :26:55.can get on and build. Do you feel your voice has been listened to? I
:26:56. > :26:58.think so and so far as the proponents of the scheme are coming
:26:59. > :27:02.up with answers to our objections but whether we believe they will
:27:03. > :27:08.actually have the effect that is proposed and be carried forward...
:27:09. > :27:12.We have had so many promises in the past that have not turned out the
:27:13. > :27:17.way they were promised. We have had promises there would not be any
:27:18. > :27:22.expansion and that has come back and been turned round. The other point
:27:23. > :27:28.is that whatever the mitigation may be, there are so many more people
:27:29. > :27:34.being affected by Heathrow in London than in any other capital city, that
:27:35. > :27:39.basically it is in the wrong place and it is making a bad situation
:27:40. > :27:44.worse to propose to expand it. When you hear Matthew making the case for
:27:45. > :27:51.the country and the economy, do you accept that it is an issue for the
:27:52. > :27:57.greater good? There is an argument which is based on figures that I
:27:58. > :28:01.think are very selective. I also think that the economy has many
:28:02. > :28:07.different aspects that could be developed in a different way without
:28:08. > :28:10.Heathrow being expanded and indeed the whole premise of the airports
:28:11. > :28:15.commission was that we need another runway in the south-east of England.
:28:16. > :28:19.But what happened to the idea that the south-east was getting
:28:20. > :28:25.overheated? We are possibly the wrong place to expand anyway. As far
:28:26. > :28:30.as flight are concerned, there is spare capacity in other airports. It
:28:31. > :28:34.would not be the same thing as expanding Heathrow but there is more
:28:35. > :28:40.than one way of dealing with economic considerations. Norman says
:28:41. > :28:43.that most people I work on by jet engines from Manchester and bought
:28:44. > :28:50.in Stockport. What happened the law on noise pollution? John said that
:28:51. > :28:53.you don't get used to be pollution that you can take the atmosphere.
:28:54. > :28:57.The government says they have reduced noise and pollution around
:28:58. > :29:01.Heathrow but the way they have done this is by pushing all of this over
:29:02. > :29:06.Essex by changing the outbound flight path out of Stansted. Martin
:29:07. > :29:09.says that Gatwick is the same and what about the engine test in the
:29:10. > :29:14.night? Vincent said airport expansion and noise has been going
:29:15. > :29:18.on for years so what came first, the chicken or the egg? They move into
:29:19. > :29:24.the area knowing this. Answering about other ways to expand the
:29:25. > :29:29.economy? The airports commission looked at this in detail, for three
:29:30. > :29:34.years. It looked at a range of options and found unanimously that
:29:35. > :29:40.both the final short listed options of Gatwick and Heathrow were viable
:29:41. > :29:43.and it recommended Heathrow for a number of reasons. Those were to do
:29:44. > :29:48.with accessibility, its connections to London and the rest of the
:29:49. > :29:52.country, for connectivity, the ability to grow long haul routes to
:29:53. > :29:56.new markets for new growth and jobs, and also connectivity to the rest of
:29:57. > :30:00.the country. Because the airports are full in London at the moment,
:30:01. > :30:04.there are not those domestic links to Scotland and the North to connect
:30:05. > :30:08.to overseas markets. The government will announce which way it is going
:30:09. > :30:12.next week, the start of a consultation process. It is
:30:13. > :30:17.anticipated that the decision might be Heathrow although we don't know.
:30:18. > :30:22.If it is, what will you do? We certainly won't go away. Those of us
:30:23. > :30:25.who have been opposing it had not been satisfied by any of the
:30:26. > :30:30.promises and we will continue to oppose it and I think it might make
:30:31. > :30:34.it extremely difficult for that proposal, if there is a decision for
:30:35. > :30:39.Heathrow, I think it would make it difficult to go ahead because there
:30:40. > :30:44.will be continued opposition both on legal and other grounds and we will
:30:45. > :30:50.be fighting it for all of those hundred thousand people who will be
:30:51. > :30:52.newly affected as well as those who perhaps knew something about
:30:53. > :31:01.Heathrow when they moved to the area.
:31:02. > :31:14.Still to come. Standing Together is back in use, it was used when MP Jo
:31:15. > :31:17.Cox was killed in her constituency. Now her friend and colleague Rachel
:31:18. > :31:21.Reeves is using it to support Coronation Street actress Tracy
:31:22. > :31:26.Brabin who has been elected as successor of Jo Cox, we will talk to
:31:27. > :31:30.her shortly. And an investigation into the fair treatment of customers
:31:31. > :31:35.attracted to online gambling sites by tempting deals and offers. A
:31:36. > :31:43.former gambling addict is with us in the studio. Let's know your thoughts
:31:44. > :31:54.on that. Now let's catch up with all the news.
:31:55. > :31:57.150,000 tonnes of coal waste and got a junior school and surrounding
:31:58. > :32:03.homes in the Welsh village of Aberfan, killing 144 people, a
:32:04. > :32:07.minute's silence has been held. 116 were children. Prince Charles is
:32:08. > :32:10.attending a ceremony this morning and more events to commemorate the
:32:11. > :32:14.disaster will be held throughout the day. The Conservatives have held
:32:15. > :32:20.former Prime Minister David Cameron's seat of Witney in
:32:21. > :32:27.Oxfordshire. Barrister Robert Courts was elected with a reduced majority,
:32:28. > :32:32.with the vote falling from 66%, to 45%. Labour's Tracy Brabin held the
:32:33. > :32:34.Batley Spen seat where Jo Cox was MP before she was killed in June.
:32:35. > :32:37.Two British warships are shadowing an aircraft carrier and other
:32:38. > :32:42.Russian naval ships as they pass close to the UK.
:32:43. > :32:48.The Russian ships are heading through the English Channel on their
:32:49. > :32:52.way, it is the eastern Mediterranean. A Ministry of defence
:32:53. > :32:54.spokesman said they would be man marked every step of the way new UK
:32:55. > :32:56.waters. There's been criticism
:32:57. > :32:57.of Russia's aggressive polices from the President
:32:58. > :33:08.of the European Council, Armed militants have raided
:33:09. > :33:12.government buildings in Iraq. The Islamic State group says it was
:33:13. > :33:20.behind the attack, claiming fighters broke into the Town Hall and took
:33:21. > :33:23.control of a hotel. This is as Iraqi and Kurdish forces try to take the
:33:24. > :33:26.Iraqi stronghold of Mosul. Universities and student unions
:33:27. > :33:28.should work together to tackle violence against women,
:33:29. > :33:35.harassment and hate crime on campus. EU a task force set up by the heads
:33:36. > :33:39.of university says allegations needed to be recorded properly and
:33:40. > :33:42.victims must get better support. The government has welcomed the report
:33:43. > :33:44.and says it expects it to be implemented.
:33:45. > :33:45.The Competition and Markets Authority is investigating
:33:46. > :33:47.whether people using sports betting and gaming websites
:33:48. > :33:50.It's looking into the terms and conditions of online
:33:51. > :33:52.betting accounts and wants to know why,
:33:53. > :33:54.in some cases, the industry's been cancelling winning bets
:33:55. > :34:15.More from me at ten o'clock. We will talk about online gambling in a
:34:16. > :34:20.while so let's know your thoughts on that. Time for the sport now with
:34:21. > :34:25.Jessica. Des two of England's first test in
:34:26. > :34:28.Bangladesh, they were all out the 293 in their first innings,
:34:29. > :34:33.Bangladesh had a bit of a wobble early in their reply but they found
:34:34. > :34:39.their rhythm with a cabal hitting a half-century. Bangladesh were on
:34:40. > :34:45.116-2. World-record signing Paul Pogba scored twice as Manchester
:34:46. > :34:50.United beat Fenerbahce 4-1 in the rebel league last night. Former
:34:51. > :34:52.United striker Robin Van Persie scored a consolation goal for the
:34:53. > :34:57.Turkish side. Not good news for Southampton,
:34:58. > :35:00.losing 1-0 at Inter Milan after missing a number of chances and
:35:01. > :35:05.despite 11 shots in the second half, it was the Italian side who got the
:35:06. > :35:10.only goal in the San Siro Stadium. And it has been confirmed that after
:35:11. > :35:13.a difficult few months, Ian Drake will set down as Chief Executive of
:35:14. > :35:18.British cycling next April. He said it was the right time to move on.
:35:19. > :35:21.That is all for now. Thank you very much, see you later.
:35:22. > :35:23.As you've been hearing, this morning marks 50 years
:35:24. > :35:31.to the day that more than 100 children and dozens of adults
:35:32. > :35:33.were killed in the Welsh mining village of Aberfan.
:35:34. > :35:35.This morning in 1966, tonnes of coal debris,
:35:36. > :35:37.which had been piled high on a hillside, slipped down
:35:38. > :35:41.The disaster devastated the village and has those there have
:35:42. > :35:47.A series of remembrance events are being held in Aberfan
:35:48. > :35:49.throughout the day, and we'll go live there shortly,
:35:50. > :35:52.but first, here's a reminder from Huw Edwards of what went wrong
:35:53. > :36:04.He has been speaking to the survivors. At 915 a.m., Pantglas
:36:05. > :36:09.Primary School was buried under a mountain of coal waste. The scale of
:36:10. > :36:15.the loss is still difficult to comprehend half a century later.
:36:16. > :36:18.What happened was one of the greatest disasters in the modern
:36:19. > :36:22.history of Wales and the modern history of the United Kingdom.
:36:23. > :36:24.And it's important to get one thing clear.
:36:25. > :36:27.This was no freak of nature, it was a man-made disaster,
:36:28. > :36:30.And it happened because of a combination of negligence,
:36:31. > :36:35.One of those who survived the disaster, her life
:36:36. > :36:37.still overshadowed by the events 50 years ago, is Gaynor Madgwick.
:36:38. > :36:40.She was eight at the time and lost her brother Carl
:36:41. > :36:45.She has since written a book about her experiences.
:36:46. > :36:48.We met in the memorial garden on the site of the old
:36:49. > :36:53.The ceiling of the school had come in and it landed on half
:36:54. > :36:57.the children, and I had a radiator that had come off the wall and it
:36:58. > :37:06.I just remember looking at another friend of ours who had literally
:37:07. > :37:10.tried to climb up through the roof which was on top of the children.
:37:11. > :37:13.And, "I'm going to get help, I'm going to get help."
:37:14. > :37:21.I was whisked away in the ambulance to St Tydfil's Hospital
:37:22. > :37:23.and I remained there, isolated I feel,
:37:24. > :37:28.It was then in the evening time that I was told that my brother
:37:29. > :37:45.We can cross now to our reporter Bethan Roberts,
:37:46. > :38:00.Yes, thank you, we are outside that memorial garden and you can see the
:38:01. > :38:06.walls built to reflect the shape of the classrooms of that school,
:38:07. > :38:11.Pantglas Primary School. I am joined by an historian now. You remember
:38:12. > :38:16.that day very well. I do, I was a university student at the time,
:38:17. > :38:23.living not far from this community. My father was a Minister and joined
:38:24. > :38:27.the weekend, he came to map -- Aberfan the office help and many did
:38:28. > :38:33.the same thing. I remember that day, it was a very sad day emotionally
:38:34. > :38:36.and it remained in the memories of many people sense. Not just trying
:38:37. > :38:41.to grapple with the events of that day, but for this community, the
:38:42. > :38:46.fight following the inquest and the request for money, they have had to
:38:47. > :38:49.battle all the way. They have had to battle all the way and it is a
:38:50. > :38:52.reflection of their bravery and courage. They had to stand on their
:38:53. > :38:57.own feet because nobody else would help them. At the time of the
:38:58. > :39:03.disaster, you had this massive corporate institution, National Coal
:39:04. > :39:07.Board, with this overwhelming power of the man who controlled it, Lord
:39:08. > :39:12.Robens, who refuse to accept responsibility and the fact that he
:39:13. > :39:17.knew that they did not know about the existence of the stream which
:39:18. > :39:21.caused the tips to collapse. They stayed with that story until the
:39:22. > :39:26.last moment of the tribunal held in the wake of the disaster. Even he
:39:27. > :39:30.was not allowed to be dismissed from his post and he remained in his post
:39:31. > :39:35.in 1971, largely because he was imported to the Labour government
:39:36. > :39:38.because he was seen as the defender of the National Union of Mineworkers
:39:39. > :39:42.because the government was closing the pits. He was indispensable and
:39:43. > :39:50.he remained in his post and he refused to give it a penny of the
:39:51. > :39:53.funds to remove these tips unless villagers made a contribution, and
:39:54. > :39:58.that was scandalous and it added to the pain and bitter memories of
:39:59. > :40:02.those people. You mentioned the stream which was the spring that was
:40:03. > :40:06.crucial in this story. There had been warnings and those warnings
:40:07. > :40:11.were ignored. They had been ignored and there was a slippage three years
:40:12. > :40:17.earlier and the headmistress of the school had set up a petition sent to
:40:18. > :40:21.the colliery manager who refuse to acknowledge the petition. Nothing
:40:22. > :40:24.about the situation. What is even more scandalous is this was a
:40:25. > :40:29.nationalist industry set up to meet the needs of the working people in
:40:30. > :40:33.this country. On top of that, there was health and safety beneath ground
:40:34. > :40:37.but no tipping policy, which came through in the conclusion of the
:40:38. > :40:42.tribunal which came to an end of its operations in 90 77. There was a
:40:43. > :40:47.friend in Parliament to help, only one MP stood up to defend them and
:40:48. > :40:51.that was the local MP for Merthyr Tydfil, suspended three years later
:40:52. > :40:54.because the Labour Party was very much involved in this because they
:40:55. > :41:02.wanted to defend the industry and they felt they could not dismiss
:41:03. > :41:07.Lord Robens. 50 years on, how do you assess the impact of that tragic
:41:08. > :41:12.day? It was an exceptionally spine chilling day, there were many other
:41:13. > :41:16.events in the history of Wales, in disasters, but this was exceptional
:41:17. > :41:23.and it was a scar on the memory of the people. It also reflects another
:41:24. > :41:27.scene, the overwhelming power of corporate institutions, which can
:41:28. > :41:31.override the feelings and the demands of ordinary people. It was
:41:32. > :41:35.man-made, it could have been avoided. It was man-made, it could
:41:36. > :41:40.have been avoided had people be more responsible on that day. Thank you
:41:41. > :41:43.very much. Come back to us and I will be joined by two survivors late
:41:44. > :41:48.in the programme. We will join you later in the
:41:49. > :41:52.programme, thank you very much. Matt on Facebook, they knew that spoil
:41:53. > :41:55.pile was unstable and decided to do nothing, a tragedy that should never
:41:56. > :41:59.have happened. On text, as somebody old enough to
:42:00. > :42:04.recall the tragic events of 50 years ago, I recall the horror I felt, I
:42:05. > :42:20.know it affected me in Yorkshire as it did people all over Britain and
:42:21. > :42:23.the world. Deeply. Whether we recall that day or not, we must never
:42:24. > :42:26.forget and keep Aberfan in our hearts. Jean on Facebook, I was 14
:42:27. > :42:29.when Aberfan happens, I remember the sadness we felt and the tears for
:42:30. > :42:31.those children who died. 50 years later, it still resonates that a
:42:32. > :42:33.whole generation died that day. Coming up, calls for a zero
:42:34. > :42:36.tolerance approach to sexual violence, hate crime and violence on
:42:37. > :42:38.university campuses. We speak to a woman raped while a student who
:42:39. > :42:42.campaigns to end sex crimes. It's four months since the nation
:42:43. > :42:45.was shocked by the death Now, following a by-election
:42:46. > :42:53.in her West Yorkshire constituency of Batley Spen yesterday,
:42:54. > :42:55.the former Coronation Street actress Tracy Brabin takes up her seat
:42:56. > :42:58.as the new Labour MP. The seat was not contested
:42:59. > :43:00.by the other main parties and Ms Brabin won with 85%
:43:01. > :43:08.of the vote. It was a phenomenal campaign run
:43:09. > :43:12.in difficult circumstances where people are absolutely
:43:13. > :43:13.heartbroken about what happened. And what we saw as a tragedy others
:43:14. > :43:17.saw as an opportunity to get out And I think tonight's been
:43:18. > :43:20.a huge success for us, We'll speak to one of Jo's
:43:21. > :43:25.friends in a moment, the MP Rachel Reeves,
:43:26. > :43:27.but first, here's Rachel addressing other MPs in June,
:43:28. > :43:30.shortly after Jo's death. Jo was struck down much too
:43:31. > :43:32.soon, so it now falls on all of our shoulders -
:43:33. > :43:35.the woman I met in a coffee shop in Batley, Jo's
:43:36. > :43:38.friends, MPs, all of us - To combat and guard against hatred,
:43:39. > :43:42.intolerance and injustice, to serve others with dignity
:43:43. > :43:46.and with love. And that is the best way
:43:47. > :43:49.that we can remember Jo Batley and Spen will go
:43:50. > :44:00.on to elect a new MP. Rachel Reeves is
:44:01. > :44:11.in our Leeds studio. She's been out campaigning
:44:12. > :44:19.with Tracy Brabin. Thank you very much for joining us
:44:20. > :44:23.this morning. A difficult time. Tracy Brabin said, it is a
:44:24. > :44:29.bittersweet victory. Yes, that is exactly the right word and way of
:44:30. > :44:32.looking at it. I was in Batley Spen yesterday campaigning for Tracy
:44:33. > :44:36.but it was a by-election I did not want to fight, there were doors I
:44:37. > :44:43.did not want to knock on. But as I said in that speech, Batley Spen
:44:44. > :44:48.has elected a new MP and Tracy is a wonderful woman. Jo and her were
:44:49. > :44:51.friends and they campaigns together. Like Jo, Tracy is from the
:44:52. > :44:56.constituency and she knows and she loves the area and she is going to
:44:57. > :44:59.be a great MP for the people of Batley Spen and a great
:45:00. > :45:02.representative in Parliament. It was a difficult day yesterday and
:45:03. > :45:07.difficult watching that acceptance speech from Tracy last night, but
:45:08. > :45:12.looking forward to working with her on the causes close to her heart as
:45:13. > :45:17.well as those close to that of Jo. Tell us more about Tracy. She is
:45:18. > :45:25.known to many for appearing on screen in Coronation Street and
:45:26. > :45:30.other shows. Jo Cox spoke of wanting there to be a consensual politics,
:45:31. > :45:31.of a kinder and gentler politics, what will Tracy's strengths be in
:45:32. > :45:41.politics? Tracy was brought up in the
:45:42. > :45:47.constituency and went to school and is passionate about the area. She
:45:48. > :45:50.has had an incredibly successful career as an actor and screen right
:45:51. > :45:53.and she will be able to bring some of those skills and experience to
:45:54. > :45:58.the role, injuring there are more good quality jobs in places like
:45:59. > :46:01.Batley and Spen, that it punches above its weight as a community. I
:46:02. > :46:06.know that she is passionate about that. As well as that experience in
:46:07. > :46:13.her work, she has also been a campaigner for many years including
:46:14. > :46:17.some of the issues that Jo cared about. She will be able to bring
:46:18. > :46:24.that experience to the role as MP for Batley and Spen. The death of Jo
:46:25. > :46:30.Cox shone a light on the tone of political debate and after she died,
:46:31. > :46:32.many expressed a hope that there would be a kinder politics
:46:33. > :46:38.afterwards. Have you seen that coming through? She spoke in her
:46:39. > :46:43.maiden speech about that we had more in common than that which divides us
:46:44. > :46:48.and that was something that grows and motivated her, to work with
:46:49. > :46:52.people, whatever their politics or background, to try to make the world
:46:53. > :46:56.a better place. Whether that was making Batley and Spen about the
:46:57. > :47:00.place, the country or internationally with the work that
:47:01. > :47:05.she did in some of the most war ravaged and damaged places in the
:47:06. > :47:09.world. What happened when she died, there was a huge outpouring of love
:47:10. > :47:13.and grief and a lot of people said, I want to live my life more like
:47:14. > :47:18.her. If anything good is to come out of this, is that we think a bit more
:47:19. > :47:21.about how we act in the world and the way we treat each other and the
:47:22. > :47:26.difference we try to make. If all others tried a little bit to live a
:47:27. > :47:30.bit more like that, by those values, that we have more in common than
:47:31. > :47:34.that which divides us, I think all of the communities and the world
:47:35. > :47:38.would be a better place. That is the way we can honour Jo and her legacy
:47:39. > :47:43.and I know that Tracy will be trying to do that now in her role. Do you
:47:44. > :47:50.think anything has changed in politics? When I was out yesterday,
:47:51. > :47:54.a lot of people are still coming to terms with what has happened. They
:47:55. > :47:59.feel very moved by what happened. You look at the result, people who
:48:00. > :48:03.had voted for all different parties over the years came together to vote
:48:04. > :48:09.Labour and vote for Tracy. That is an example and a reminder that we do
:48:10. > :48:13.have more in common, the Conservatives and Lib Dems and other
:48:14. > :48:17.main parties did not field candidates yesterday out of respect.
:48:18. > :48:22.But also to put into practice the idea that we have more in common. We
:48:23. > :48:27.spend a lot of time arguing between the parties in parliament but
:48:28. > :48:30.actually at moments like this, it is a reminder that we must all come
:48:31. > :48:35.together in the national interest for the common good. Thank you very
:48:36. > :48:39.much for joining us this morning. There are concerns that gamblers
:48:40. > :48:41.are being ripped off by online gambling companies who may have
:48:42. > :48:45.broken the law. The government's competition
:48:46. > :48:48.regulator is launching an investigation into
:48:49. > :48:52.whether gamblers are being conned Here to talk about the
:48:53. > :48:56.investigation is Nisha Arora. She is the Senior Director
:48:57. > :48:59.for Consumer Enforcement at the Competition
:49:00. > :49:00.and Markets Authority. Justyn Larcombe is a recovering
:49:01. > :49:03.online gambling addict He has fallen victim to some
:49:04. > :49:20.of the practices the CMA Thank you for joining us. You are
:49:21. > :49:25.looking at three specific areas, unfair small print, difficulty in
:49:26. > :49:36.withdrawing winnings and odds being altered. Set out your concerns on
:49:37. > :49:39.those areas. With promotions, consumers and players being enticed
:49:40. > :49:43.into what looked like great deals and promotions on the surface,
:49:44. > :49:47.looking like a good deal and fair but actually they are attached with
:49:48. > :49:51.hidden and conflicts terms which means that people don't understand
:49:52. > :49:55.the deal they are getting into and often are not even able to get a
:49:56. > :50:01.pay-out at the end of the day and get their winnings. In terms of the
:50:02. > :50:04.odds, we are concerned that companies are cancelling bets or
:50:05. > :50:11.altering the odds on things of the people had placed they might bet on
:50:12. > :50:14.something at 20-1 but the pay-out is reduced because the company said
:50:15. > :50:19.that we made the mistake and we have changed the odds after you placed
:50:20. > :50:26.your bet. We are also concerned... How widespread is that? It is a
:50:27. > :50:32.widespread practice traditionally in the land betting offices because it
:50:33. > :50:36.has come about because of human error. In an online world we think
:50:37. > :50:41.it is occurring and we want to know why it should occur and what is the
:50:42. > :50:45.justification. The reason for this investigation is to find out how
:50:46. > :50:48.widespread that is and what is happening and if players are really
:50:49. > :50:52.being a comment. And on that issue of unfair small print, the body
:50:53. > :50:57.being tempted by what looks to be free money to start betting with and
:50:58. > :51:02.discovering it is not quite as straightforward as that -- somebody
:51:03. > :51:06.being tempted. If that making people gamble when they might not
:51:07. > :51:10.otherwise? It might well do because bonuses are getting bigger and
:51:11. > :51:14.bigger. If you put in ?100, you get a chance of that money being matched
:51:15. > :51:18.or doubled so it could make you put in more money. And you I get back to
:51:19. > :51:23.actually have to put in more money in order to get the winnings at the
:51:24. > :51:27.end of the day, I think that has the potential to tempt people to spend
:51:28. > :51:32.more money that they might not have done otherwise. You have a gambling
:51:33. > :51:36.addiction which obviously you have now turned your life around but
:51:37. > :51:43.going back to when it started, it is the offer of a free bet that drew
:51:44. > :51:47.you in? It was a ?5 free bet, I was watching a game of rugby and I
:51:48. > :51:52.noticed an advert by the side of the pitch for the first time. What did
:51:53. > :51:58.it say and lead you on to do? It was the offer of a ?5 free bet if I
:51:59. > :52:02.matched the state. I went upstairs and got my laptop, I had never
:52:03. > :52:12.gambled before -- the stake. I joined up and deposited ?5 and I won
:52:13. > :52:15.that bet. That was the start of everything. Do you think without
:52:16. > :52:20.that free offer you would never have gone down that path? If I had lost
:52:21. > :52:25.the bet, I think I would have just closed my laptop and thought, what a
:52:26. > :52:32.waste of time. I was not thinking about gambling at the time. I was
:52:33. > :52:37.just having a normal day. And over time you developed a significant
:52:38. > :52:40.addiction and ended up losing ?750,000. What sort of things did
:52:41. > :52:46.you experience through the time you were betting that chimes with the
:52:47. > :52:51.issues we are looking at? It was a very gradual process over three
:52:52. > :52:55.years and I went from someone who'd gambled occasionally, but towards
:52:56. > :52:59.the end, when I had spent all the money, the equity in my house, got
:53:00. > :53:04.all the loans I could get, when my wife had left and the children had
:53:05. > :53:10.gone, when I was not eating because I was spending money, that time at
:53:11. > :53:14.my most vulnerable, that is when I felt most exposed to the adverts. To
:53:15. > :53:18.getting a call from someone saying, would you like a free bet today.
:53:19. > :53:25.Getting e-mails from people saying, we have got a deal for you. And it
:53:26. > :53:29.is not a free bet. It is misleading because it keeps you gambling. In
:53:30. > :53:34.order to get your money that you think you have won, you have to keep
:53:35. > :53:37.placing a bet. Sometimes 30 times before you begin to get the money
:53:38. > :53:43.back that you think you will get. It is probably the most vulnerable,
:53:44. > :53:47.they are the highest risk of this kind of promotion. When you did have
:53:48. > :53:52.winnings you found it hard to take them out? Completely but as a
:53:53. > :53:56.compulsive gambler you probably would not take it out anyway will
:53:57. > :53:59.stop you would like to, and I heard so many stories from people, where
:54:00. > :54:04.people had a significant win and they want to take the money out but
:54:05. > :54:08.it takes so long to do that. If it is related to a promotion, you
:54:09. > :54:13.probably would not be able to take it out anyway. You end up gambling
:54:14. > :54:16.it anyway? Do you think if you had been able to take it away at any
:54:17. > :54:23.point that you might have walked away? Early on, that is what I would
:54:24. > :54:27.have done. This is why it is a bit dangerous because it is bringing in
:54:28. > :54:30.people. There are three types of people, most people gamble
:54:31. > :54:35.responsibly and there is no issue and this will not affect them. Then
:54:36. > :54:37.you have a large number who are at risk and the industry says that
:54:38. > :54:44.figure is about 3.5 million, not just online gambling. Then you have
:54:45. > :54:49.a small percentage, still a high number, 5.5 million people gambling
:54:50. > :54:53.online, a high number who are compulsive. Those people are the
:54:54. > :55:00.ones that will keep on playing and they will be looking at the adverts.
:55:01. > :55:04.People are getting in touch. Rob, my wife and myself won ?1000 and when
:55:05. > :55:08.he tried to transfer it, they took us through a torturous identity
:55:09. > :55:12.process lasting six weeks. They did not ask for identity when we
:55:13. > :55:16.deposited the ?50 to gamble. We closed the cat out immediately. An
:55:17. > :55:22.anonymous e-mail, a lot of sites give big bonuses and when you when
:55:23. > :55:26.it goes on as a bonus so he never really went and if you did win, they
:55:27. > :55:31.would only pay out in drips and wraps. Adam says free bets and
:55:32. > :55:34.misleading ad led my dad to a gambling addiction, free bets are
:55:35. > :55:40.not so free, this crackdown is needed. At one stage as well you
:55:41. > :55:45.wanted to stop and you locked yourself going on going onto a
:55:46. > :55:50.website but even that did not work. The problem was, there are 2500
:55:51. > :55:53.online gambling sites. I had a problem with one of them and when my
:55:54. > :56:00.wife found out, I confessed everything, I logged in and self
:56:01. > :56:04.excluded myself from that one site. At the moment, you would have to
:56:05. > :56:08.exclude yourself from two and a half thousand sites. That is changing and
:56:09. > :56:12.the commission are trying to put through a one-stop inclusion which
:56:13. > :56:17.is brilliant. A couple of weeks after I self excluded, I had a
:56:18. > :56:21.promotional e-mail, saying would you like a ?50 free bet if you sign up.
:56:22. > :56:28.I convinced myself that a free bet was not gambling and ended up losing
:56:29. > :56:32.everything. When you hear this experience, and obviously he is not
:56:33. > :56:35.the only person to have done that, what do you think about the
:56:36. > :56:39.responsibility that should be shown in that environment? The gambling
:56:40. > :56:44.commission, we're working closely with them, they have a project
:56:45. > :56:50.looking at the problem of gambling in the industry. What we are looking
:56:51. > :56:53.at is companies treating people fairly, giving them the right
:56:54. > :56:58.information so they know what they are signing up for and not stacking
:56:59. > :57:02.the odds against them in the fairway that they either end up having to
:57:03. > :57:05.walk away and leave winnings which is difficult to do, or having to
:57:06. > :57:10.carry on gambling with the idea that they will get them. We are keen to
:57:11. > :57:15.ensure that people are treated fairly. Thank you very much and
:57:16. > :57:22.thank you for your comments. Keep them coming on this and every thing
:57:23. > :57:26.else that we are talking about. We are also going to be talked about
:57:27. > :57:30.sexual violence on university campuses. We will talk to one woman
:57:31. > :57:31.who was raped while she was a student but the allegations were not
:57:32. > :57:46.taken seriously. Good News for the weekend with some
:57:47. > :57:51.dry weather coming up with with the Knights getting longer and colder we
:57:52. > :57:57.have seen some misty mornings. We have also seen is the mist
:57:58. > :58:04.thickening into dense fog and patchy fog, you can be going along and the
:58:05. > :58:12.visibility is fine but suddenly you plunge into that dense fog. Some of
:58:13. > :58:16.that is still around, mainly in western England and Wales and it is
:58:17. > :58:19.fairly patchy but most have had a glorious start, dry and sunny with
:58:20. > :58:24.light winds. It will feel a bit warmer after the initial chill. More
:58:25. > :58:30.cloudy in the south and east, some heavy showers in east Anglia moving
:58:31. > :58:34.westwards. We also have some more cloud and rain in the north of
:58:35. > :58:40.Scotland around Caithness and Orkney. Away from that, much of
:58:41. > :58:46.Scotland and Northern Ireland going towards lunchtime will be dry and
:58:47. > :58:50.sunny. For most of you, a fine autumn day with light winds and
:58:51. > :58:54.sunshine overhead and it will feel quite pleasant. Further showers in
:58:55. > :58:59.the East but not as many as in recent days. But in East Anglia,
:59:00. > :59:03.there is a chance it could be heavy and thundery. Temperatures are
:59:04. > :59:06.tempered a bit by the strength of the wind. The breeze will bring in
:59:07. > :59:12.showers through the east of the UK. Most will be dry and clear, some
:59:13. > :59:16.more clout in several parts with the small child of some rain later on
:59:17. > :59:23.but in the West it will be clearest -- at the small chance of some rain.
:59:24. > :59:28.Temperatures will tumble outside of towns and cities with some frost
:59:29. > :59:32.going into the weekend. That will lift through the morning. More clout
:59:33. > :59:36.in western areas, a few more showers tomorrow, you might have one in
:59:37. > :59:39.Northern Ireland and central parts of Scotland and a few more in east
:59:40. > :59:44.in England which will drift westwards. But there are big gaps
:59:45. > :59:52.between them, many will spend the bulk if not all of the day dry.
:59:53. > :59:59.Temperatures mostly gentle. This area of low pressure develops, not
:00:00. > :00:03.effective as directly but as it develops, it squeezes up against the
:00:04. > :00:06.high-pressure further north and the wins will strengthen and it will
:00:07. > :00:11.feel colder on Sunday. More showers in the East but many will be dry and
:00:12. > :00:14.sunny in the West again. Enjoy your weekend.
:00:15. > :00:18.Welcome to the Victoria Derbyshire Show, if you've just joined us.
:00:19. > :00:21.Communities across Wales come together to remember
:00:22. > :00:27.116 children and 28 adults were killed when tonnes of coal
:00:28. > :00:39.waste engulfed the village 50 years ago.
:00:40. > :00:44.The ceiling came in and landed on half the children. I looked at
:00:45. > :00:49.another friend who literally tried to climb through the roof. I was
:00:50. > :00:53.whisked away in an ambulance to the hospital and I remained their
:00:54. > :00:56.isolated I feel for over three months.
:00:57. > :00:58.A taskforce has called for zero-tolerance to sexual
:00:59. > :01:02.We'll speak to a campaigner who was raped while she was a student
:01:03. > :01:04.and to a woman who has curtailed her social life
:01:05. > :01:07.at university because of sexual harrassment.
:01:08. > :01:14.Two British warships are shadowing an aircraft carrier and other
:01:15. > :01:16.Russian naval vessels sailing through the English Channel.
:01:17. > :01:19.The fleet is believed to be en-route to the Eastern mediterranean.
:01:20. > :01:21.We will be live from both sides of the Channel,
:01:22. > :01:31.Here's Ben Brown in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.
:01:32. > :01:36.A minute's silence has been held to mark the fiftieth anniversary
:01:37. > :01:43.150,000 tonnes of coal waste engulfed a junior school
:01:44. > :01:46.and surrounding homes in the Welsh village, killing 144 people,
:01:47. > :01:50.Prince Charles is attending a ceremony in Aberfan this morning,
:01:51. > :01:53.and more events to commemorate the disaster will be held
:01:54. > :02:09.Former Prime Minister David Cameron has congratulated Robert Courts on
:02:10. > :02:13.his victory in the Witney by-election. He was elected with a
:02:14. > :02:17.reduced majority. The Conservative vote share falling from 66%, to 45%.
:02:18. > :02:21.In yesterday's other by-election... Meanwhile Labour's Tracy Brabin held
:02:22. > :02:23.the Batley and Spen seat where Jo Cox was MP before
:02:24. > :02:32.she was killed in June. The party's candidate Great Repeal
:02:33. > :02:36.Bill got a majority of 16,000 500. Turnout was 25%, one of the low
:02:37. > :02:43.asked for a by-election since the Second World War. The other parties
:02:44. > :02:44.chose not to put up candidates. -- the lowest.
:02:45. > :02:46.Two British warships are shadowing an aircraft carrier and other
:02:47. > :02:49.Russian naval ships as they pass close to the UK.
:02:50. > :02:51.The ships are heading through the English Channel
:02:52. > :02:53.on their way, it's thought, to the eastern Mediterranean.
:02:54. > :02:55.There's been criticism of Russia's aggressive polices from President
:02:56. > :03:01.Armed militants have carried out several raids
:03:02. > :03:06.The Islamic State group claimed its fighters had
:03:07. > :03:08.broken into the town hall, attacked a police station
:03:09. > :03:17.The assaults come as the Iraqi Government and Kurdish forces
:03:18. > :03:19.attempt to re-take the IS stronghold of Mosul.
:03:20. > :03:21.Theresa May has said Britain intends to remain at the heart
:03:22. > :03:24.of the European Union right up to the moment of its departure.
:03:25. > :03:27.Addressing EU leaders at her first summit as Prime Minister,
:03:28. > :03:30.she made it clear the UK would play a full part in decision-making until
:03:31. > :03:35.The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, later said
:03:36. > :03:41.she expected the Brexit negotiations to be "rough-going".
:03:42. > :03:45.Public sector borrowing rose slightly in September
:03:46. > :03:47.to ?10.6 billion, according to the Office for
:03:48. > :03:53.The figures make it likely that the Chancellor Philip Hammond
:03:54. > :03:58.will have to admit the Treasury won't hit its target for deficit
:03:59. > :04:01.reduction for this year, set in the last Budget.
:04:02. > :04:04.A report is recommending a complete overhaul of how British universities
:04:05. > :04:07.deal with sexual assaults, harassment and hate crime on campus.
:04:08. > :04:10.A task force, set up by the heads of universities,
:04:11. > :04:12.has said allegations need to be recorded properly and victims
:04:13. > :04:19.The Government has welcomed the report and said it expects
:04:20. > :04:24.The Competition and Markets Authority is investigating
:04:25. > :04:26.whether people using sports betting and gaming websites
:04:27. > :04:34.It's looking into the terms and conditions of online
:04:35. > :04:38.accounts and wants to know why, in some cases, the industry's been
:04:39. > :04:41.cancelling winning bets and refusing to pay out.
:04:42. > :04:43.Environmentalists are warning that hundreds of rare snow leopards
:04:44. > :04:46.are being killed every year in the mountain ranges of Asia.
:04:47. > :04:48.The wildlife monitoring group Traffic International says many
:04:49. > :04:50.are being targeted by farmers in retaliation for
:04:51. > :05:01.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30.
:05:02. > :05:13.Thank you. We are remembering the Aberfan disaster today, 50 years
:05:14. > :05:18.later. 116 children and 28 adults killed in the disaster. We will
:05:19. > :05:23.speak later to a woman who was eight and she survived. Janet says, I was
:05:24. > :05:27.ten when Aberfan happened and it was the first time I saw my dad cry.
:05:28. > :05:31.Charlie on Facebook, I remember the date me and my classmates said our
:05:32. > :05:37.pocket money to the school, so sad. So we will speak to one woman who
:05:38. > :05:39.was just a little girl of eight at the time she survived the disaster
:05:40. > :05:44.and she will talk to us later. Do get in touch with us
:05:45. > :05:46.throughout the morning. And if you text, you will be charged
:05:47. > :05:50.at the standard network rate. Time to get the sport
:05:51. > :05:52.now with Jessica. It's been a morning of mixed
:05:53. > :06:11.fortunes for England on the second 293 all out. Moeen Ali took two
:06:12. > :06:14.wickets and four balls to slow down the Bangladesh reply but they
:06:15. > :06:20.recovered, the local hero working his way to a half-century, much to
:06:21. > :06:27.the delight of the crowd. Adil Rashid made a breakthrough, taking
:06:28. > :06:37.the wicket of the partner of Iqbal. Bangladesh on 120-3, trailing
:06:38. > :06:45.England by 173 runs. Paul Pogba scored twice in their 4-1 win over
:06:46. > :06:50.Fenerbahce. He has been a little under par but just look at this
:06:51. > :06:55.goal. Former United player Robin Van Persie scored a consolation for the
:06:56. > :06:59.Turkish side but with a valuable three points for United, an
:07:00. > :07:05.impressive performance by Paul Pogba. Well, first of all, in some
:07:06. > :07:10.of your mouth as he goes from the worst player in the Premier league
:07:11. > :07:14.to a great player, in 48 hours. And specifically saying, that is you.
:07:15. > :07:21.When I say you, I say the media, especially you and science! But the
:07:22. > :07:27.reality is that we know that he is a very good player -- Einstein. And we
:07:28. > :07:38.know that he needs some time to be, or to show all his potential.
:07:39. > :07:43.Southampton lost 1-0 at Inter Milan after missing a lot of chances. 11
:07:44. > :07:47.shots in the second half, but Inter Milan got the goal, and it means
:07:48. > :07:50.Southampton and Manchester United sit second in their group after
:07:51. > :07:53.three matches. Sometimes you don't have the luck on your side but you
:07:54. > :07:59.have to learn from it and sometimes you just need to get it in front of
:08:00. > :08:03.goal and put the chances away. Games coming thick and fast and we have
:08:04. > :08:06.the chance on Sunday to put things right again.
:08:07. > :08:11.After a difficult few months, Ian Drake has stepped down as Chief
:08:12. > :08:15.Executive of British cycling, next April. In a statement, it said it
:08:16. > :08:19.was the right time for him to move on. His association with the
:08:20. > :08:23.national governing body began in 1995 and he has been Chief Executive
:08:24. > :08:28.since 2009. Great Britain topped the cycling medal table in the real
:08:29. > :08:31.Olympics and Paralympics, but there have also been numerous
:08:32. > :08:32.controversies. That is all the sport. Thank you
:08:33. > :08:43.very much, see you later. I woke up in a stranger's bed, the
:08:44. > :08:47.words of a woman who was raped while at university. We will speak to her
:08:48. > :08:52.in a moment. She said she was not in a fit state to give her consent but
:08:53. > :08:55.the police and university did not take her complaints seriously
:08:56. > :08:59.enough. New guidelines now recommend a complete overhaul of how British
:09:00. > :09:04.universities deal with sexual assaults, harassment and hate crime
:09:05. > :09:08.on campus. The report by the task force of universities UK says
:09:09. > :09:19.allegations need to be recorded properly and victims must get better
:09:20. > :09:21.support. We will also talk to a student at Surrey University, Steph
:09:22. > :09:23.Baker, who said she started going out on less nights out because of
:09:24. > :09:29.sexual harassment. And also with us...
:09:30. > :09:31.Chloe Wynne, welfare officer at Warwick University.
:09:32. > :09:33.And Anne Chappell, director of teaching and learning
:09:34. > :09:35.in the Department of Education at Brunel University London.
:09:36. > :09:41.You are a welfare officer and this has been launched after concerns
:09:42. > :09:48.over a growing issue. Tell us your experiences of how much of an issue
:09:49. > :09:52.there is. You see the statistics, one in four female students at
:09:53. > :09:58.university roughly faced sexual assault rape at university. One in
:09:59. > :10:04.four, sexual assault rape, that is extraordinary. How is that defined?
:10:05. > :10:08.Serious sexual assault, anything after that. So it is clearly a
:10:09. > :10:14.endemic in our institutions and is something that has only started to
:10:15. > :10:21.be taken seriously recently and we see this opportunity for the stars
:10:22. > :10:24.to align and the campaigning work of NUS and other stakeholders coming
:10:25. > :10:34.together to produce this list of recommendations. Alice, you suffered
:10:35. > :10:39.the worst experience in this regard. You were raped and you have decided
:10:40. > :10:44.you want to talk about it. How did the University react? This is about
:10:45. > :10:47.an issue of Pastoral care as much as anything and the messaging from the
:10:48. > :10:54.universities in terms of messages sent out. Yes, I was raped five
:10:55. > :10:58.years ago and when I sat down with a friend with the revelation this is
:10:59. > :11:02.what had happened, to look for options for support, to find out
:11:03. > :11:06.information about what I could do following this event, there was
:11:07. > :11:09.nothing online whatsoever from the University. There was no clear
:11:10. > :11:13.signposting as to whether I could make a complaint to the university,
:11:14. > :11:17.no information about specific support universities, absolutely
:11:18. > :11:21.nothing. It was the task of me and my friends to muddle through the
:11:22. > :11:24.system and figure out the local support services, to give the
:11:25. > :11:29.counselling service a go and see if they would deal with it which in my
:11:30. > :11:33.instance they did not. Why was it important to you? You are at
:11:34. > :11:37.university, why was that support important rather than going straight
:11:38. > :11:41.to the police? So many reasons why somebody might not go to police,
:11:42. > :11:46.following the coverage of the Ched Evans file, we are aware of what the
:11:47. > :11:50.process looks like. I went to the police and they'd dealt with it
:11:51. > :11:57.badly and they said it sounded like sex with regret and said it was a no
:11:58. > :12:03.crime, I subsequently received an apology and a recognition I was
:12:04. > :12:09.raped. There was no record? Nothing I was saying was taken down except
:12:10. > :12:13.no crime disclosed. I said at the beginning in the introduction that
:12:14. > :12:17.you woke up with no recollection. A bit of recollection. Without
:12:18. > :12:22.details, you say about the police describing it as sex with no
:12:23. > :12:27.regrets, tell us why they said that. The context for me was unfortunately
:12:28. > :12:33.typical, went out for a night out and I drank more than I intended and
:12:34. > :12:37.I intended -- I ended up. Top close to my house and was drunk enough not
:12:38. > :12:43.to make it to my front door. The young gentleman in question told me,
:12:44. > :12:47.I do not remember, said he found me on the street wandering around lost
:12:48. > :12:51.and cold and he took me home and he had sex with me, that is what he
:12:52. > :12:56.said. I do have some memories of the sexual interaction and the rest, I
:12:57. > :13:00.had to take at his word. He even got up the map to show me where he found
:13:01. > :13:05.me, 30 minutes from my house, I cannot account for that. The
:13:06. > :13:09.difficulty we have and the police response is indicative of that, a
:13:10. > :13:13.lack of understanding and awareness of instances of rape that do not
:13:14. > :13:17.look like that commonly portrayed in the media and films. No overt
:13:18. > :13:22.violence in my case. No physical injuries. It happened in somebody's
:13:23. > :13:27.accommodation. It is not the kind of thing that people like to think of
:13:28. > :13:31.as rape, it is uncomfortable to recognise such a common practice of
:13:32. > :13:36.picking somebody up drunk and having sex with them might sometimes be
:13:37. > :13:41.rape. There is a big cultural denial of the sexual offending and it is a
:13:42. > :13:46.huge part of what education needs to address on campus. Horrific
:13:47. > :13:50.experience Alice went through. You are the director of teaching and
:13:51. > :13:58.learning at Brunel University. What should be university do?
:13:59. > :14:06.Universities have, as Alice mentioned, through NUS campaigns,
:14:07. > :14:10.there has been awareness raising in the institutions. We are currently
:14:11. > :14:15.involved in a European funded project working with three UK
:14:16. > :14:19.universities and four universities across other European countries,
:14:20. > :14:23.looking at the ways in which we respond to disclosures of sexual
:14:24. > :14:27.violence. They may be recent, historic, they may be things that
:14:28. > :14:32.did happen on campus and recent things that happened away from
:14:33. > :14:36.campus. It is a way of working with the whole university in terms of
:14:37. > :14:43.providing effective and appropriate student support. And at Brunel
:14:44. > :14:48.University, having initiated this project which began before the task
:14:49. > :14:53.force work, based on a number of years worth of research into gender
:14:54. > :14:59.related violence and sexual related violence, colleagues of mine who had
:15:00. > :15:04.been undertaking this work and were involved in the project have used
:15:05. > :15:07.that research, knowledge and understanding, the issues around the
:15:08. > :15:12.legal and the NUS campaigning work that goes on, and to embed that in
:15:13. > :15:19.the practice of the University. So when we began the project and we
:15:20. > :15:22.asked for interested parties, the steering group consists of 26
:15:23. > :15:28.different people with us who have vested interests across the campus
:15:29. > :15:32.in terms of the work that they do, from the counselling service to the
:15:33. > :15:36.chaplaincy and student welfare and equality and diversity and senior
:15:37. > :15:40.leadership, those interested in research. And it has become over the
:15:41. > :15:44.years and especially now with this project, and embedded part of the
:15:45. > :15:49.practice in terms of supporting students. It is also that when
:15:50. > :15:54.students make allegations, they are taken very seriously, so the point
:15:55. > :15:57.at which they are reported at university in our particular case,
:15:58. > :16:02.they go straight to the senior team in the University.
:16:03. > :16:08.On top of the experience you had when you felt nobody did you
:16:09. > :16:14.seriously, what does that do to you? That was the hardest bit of anything
:16:15. > :16:20.of what happened. We use the word re-traumatised in, it was incredibly
:16:21. > :16:24.upsetting to get the guts and go and reach out for help and to report and
:16:25. > :16:34.Abbott disbelief that reinforced your worst fears -- to have that
:16:35. > :16:38.disbelief. It was only because I had phenomenal friends that stop me
:16:39. > :16:42.thinking it was my fault and to have them say no and hold that line. So
:16:43. > :16:48.many students don't have that support network. That is why it is
:16:49. > :16:52.so important that anybody receiving a disclosure should be trained
:16:53. > :16:56.appropriately so the response is sensitive and they don't slip into
:16:57. > :17:00.victim blaming. That comes through in the report, not only that we need
:17:01. > :17:06.specialist staff who can help facilitate access to support
:17:07. > :17:10.services but we need to make sure that any front-line staff who might
:17:11. > :17:14.receive a disclosure, whether it is porters or academic tutors, have a
:17:15. > :17:22.basic understanding of what to say and what not to say. And to pick up
:17:23. > :17:24.what you said about it perhaps being your fault, which obviously it
:17:25. > :17:32.wasn't, and having strong people around you. We are talking about a
:17:33. > :17:40.spectrum of things that happened. Your issue is that you are going out
:17:41. > :17:45.less because of sexual harassment. I would say the most important issue
:17:46. > :17:50.to remember is that from low level sexual harassment, mainly the things
:17:51. > :17:57.that I experienced, all the way up to the more serious sexual violence
:17:58. > :18:05.and rape cases, it all comes under the group of any sort of contact,
:18:06. > :18:10.whether it is low-level, violent or otherwise, that the person has no
:18:11. > :18:14.consent to, that is classed as sexual harassment. It does not
:18:15. > :18:20.matter if it happens on campuses or in the middle of London or on
:18:21. > :18:26.transport. It does not matter where or when, it is the fact that it
:18:27. > :18:33.happens. The term used is lavish culture, is that how you would
:18:34. > :18:39.describe it? -- ladish culture. I would not associate lad culture with
:18:40. > :18:45.only males, I would say it is the culture more than it is male. Can I
:18:46. > :18:50.come in on that? I know this is a term that people use a lot. My
:18:51. > :18:56.biggest concern with the focus on that culture is it stops the rest of
:18:57. > :19:01.us from taking it seriously. If they picked themselves, it would not be a
:19:02. > :19:06.problem. It is not just a problem on universities, amongst lads and
:19:07. > :19:10.sportspeople, this is a broader cultural issue about how we think
:19:11. > :19:16.about sex and consent and how we treat women. Totally. Does it come
:19:17. > :19:21.down to the messaging going out and that needs to filter down from a
:19:22. > :19:27.certain level at universities and educational establishments? People
:19:28. > :19:30.don't recognise what is happening and that means you are more likely
:19:31. > :19:39.to engage in it and it is more normalised. It is that the report
:19:40. > :19:41.touched on, having proper prevent strategies and impact assessments on
:19:42. > :19:47.how they are dealing with that. That is something we are doing at
:19:48. > :19:53.Warwick, putting consent education into the curriculum through
:19:54. > :19:58.departments. We have got a text through which is worth bringing in.
:19:59. > :20:01.Harry says I'm a male university student, I welcome calls for better
:20:02. > :20:05.at dealing with sexual assault on campus but caution is required to
:20:06. > :20:09.prevent a witchhunt. False accusation ruin lies in the same way
:20:10. > :20:15.that sexual assault does and we must not create a culture to cry rape
:20:16. > :20:29.when people allow a consensual encounter. I certainly have
:20:30. > :20:34.something to say about that. The first thing to recognise is all the
:20:35. > :20:40.data we have suggests that false reports of rape are incredibly rare.
:20:41. > :20:46.It is not a common thing to do and you have to realise that a woman to
:20:47. > :20:51.stand up and make an of that sort is very difficult and you attract a lot
:20:52. > :20:56.of flak and stigma and I can speak about personally. In terms of
:20:57. > :20:58.concerns about the portion of the report that suggests that
:20:59. > :21:02.universities should be willing to engage in disciplinary procedures,
:21:03. > :21:07.and people say you had to leave it to the criminal justice process, if
:21:08. > :21:10.universities were saying that we can make finding about criminal
:21:11. > :21:14.offences, you would be absolutely right but that is not what they are
:21:15. > :21:18.doing. They are saying, as with anything else with it is theft or
:21:19. > :21:23.drug addition, vandalism, we can make a finding of misconduct which
:21:24. > :21:28.is you breach the code of conduct you signed up you started. We
:21:29. > :21:32.already have procedures in place for dealing with disciplinary things and
:21:33. > :21:36.it is perverse, and the report points this outcome is that the
:21:37. > :21:39.current situation is that you can report something low-level and the
:21:40. > :21:44.University is willing to engage and if it is serious, they will think it
:21:45. > :21:48.is too hard. The report has careful consideration of the balancing of
:21:49. > :21:52.the interests of different parties, the need to ensure fairness to the
:21:53. > :21:56.person accused while also respecting the complainant. I would encourage
:21:57. > :22:01.anybody concerned about this to look at the report and see that all of
:22:02. > :22:05.those interests have been taken into account and to recognise that not
:22:06. > :22:09.only do we have concerns about defendant rights but also equality
:22:10. > :22:16.act and human rights obligations to complainant 's. You are both nodding
:22:17. > :22:19.at that as people in a position of responsible at the obviously. Thank
:22:20. > :22:27.you all very much for coming in and talking to us and sharing your
:22:28. > :22:29.difficult experience. And thank you for your comments, keep on getting
:22:30. > :22:31.in touch with everything we are talking about.
:22:32. > :22:36.The Prince of Wales unveils a memorial to the 144 victims
:22:37. > :22:38.of the Aberfan disaster, who died 50 years ago when thousands
:22:39. > :22:43.of tonnes of coal waste engulfed the village.
:22:44. > :22:46.We'll speak to a woman who - as an eight year old girl -
:22:47. > :22:52.had to climb through the roof of her primary school to survive.
:22:53. > :22:55.It's "no tourist trip to the Med" - that's what the Russian newspapers
:22:56. > :22:57.are saying this morning and the Ministry of Defence says
:22:58. > :23:00.that a flotilla of Russian warships will be "marked every inch
:23:01. > :23:02.of the way", as it passes through the English Channel
:23:03. > :23:05.It's thought the Russians are testing British capabilities,
:23:06. > :23:07.as well as re-enforcing the bombardment campaign on the
:23:08. > :23:13.A Russian aircraft carrier, believed to be in convoy,
:23:14. > :23:17.has already entered the Channel, off the coast near Ramsgate.
:23:18. > :23:21.In a moment, we'll go to Dover, where our correspondent
:23:22. > :23:29.First, to Calais, and our correspondent Simon Jones.
:23:30. > :23:38.Can you see it where you are? We are monitoring the water like the
:23:39. > :23:43.British authorities and the French authorities have been, saying they
:23:44. > :23:47.are following it every step of the way. Here in France they are
:23:48. > :23:51.monitoring the situation through radar, the Coast Guard station is
:23:52. > :23:55.just along from here, and they are checking in regularly with their
:23:56. > :24:03.British counterparts who have sent out two ships into the channel to
:24:04. > :24:07.market mark it. They are also regularly checking in with Nato.
:24:08. > :24:15.This combo is heading to join other Russian ships as part of the Syrian
:24:16. > :24:20.complex -- convoy. This is Russia saying that we have the rights to
:24:21. > :24:24.take our ships into international waters and it is also Britain
:24:25. > :24:29.responding as part of Nato saying, if you do that, we will make sure as
:24:30. > :24:35.you come through our water as part of the English Channel, we will
:24:36. > :24:40.monitor everything going on. The aircraft carrier will be closest to
:24:41. > :24:43.the other side of the Channel, in British waters, but those
:24:44. > :24:46.effectively become international waters because there is nothing
:24:47. > :24:51.stopping Russia doing this and they have the right to do it as part of
:24:52. > :24:55.Nato. But it shows the build-up of tension and a message from Europe,
:24:56. > :25:06.saying that they are watching and not liking what is going on in
:25:07. > :25:11.Syria. Let's go to Bryony at Dover. We have been here all morning and
:25:12. > :25:18.just out to my left in the channel we have spotted four warships and
:25:19. > :25:23.there were a further three this morning including two supply ships
:25:24. > :25:31.and a Russian tug. What we're looking for, this big show of? Is
:25:32. > :25:35.the jewel in their crown, the Admiral Kuznetsov which is a carrier
:25:36. > :25:41.which can transport 50 aircraft, although we don't know how many are
:25:42. > :25:44.on board. It has the capability of anti-ship missiles. We are expecting
:25:45. > :25:51.it to come through at some point this morning, perhaps in the next 20
:25:52. > :25:57.minutes. The Ministry of Defence has said they will man mark this fleet
:25:58. > :26:02.that is passing through. This is international water but they are
:26:03. > :26:09.near to UK waters and mainland. They will monitor them the whole way
:26:10. > :26:12.through. Their final destination is the eastern Mediterranean so they
:26:13. > :26:16.will go through the Strait of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean and
:26:17. > :26:22.on Syria. As we know, heightened tensions between Nato, EU leaders
:26:23. > :26:29.and Russia about Russian involvement in the war. We are waiting to see
:26:30. > :26:35.this big show of force, it is quite far out but it is certainly not the
:26:36. > :26:50.usual day here in written's busiest shipping lane. We can take a live
:26:51. > :26:55.map of ships currently in UK waters. The red mugs are military ships,
:26:56. > :27:00.yellow our cargo ships and the blue ones are fishing vessels. The
:27:01. > :27:05.Russian ships are under the radar so they do not appear but the tugs that
:27:06. > :27:09.accompanied them do. What this gives you is a clear idea of how many
:27:10. > :27:11.ships there are in these waters at the moment.
:27:12. > :27:14.Let's speak to Keir Giles who's an expert in Russian security issues
:27:15. > :27:15.at the Conflict Studies Research Centre.
:27:16. > :27:18.He joins us from our Cambridge studio.
:27:19. > :27:28.Thank you for joining us. Why are they come this way to get to Syria?
:27:29. > :27:31.Is it the only way? From where they are based, yes, they have to pass a
:27:32. > :27:35.bike to get to the eastern Mediterranean. There was nothing
:27:36. > :27:38.unusual about that, it is not the first time the Admiral Kuznetsov has
:27:39. > :27:42.deployed there, but what is different is passing through the
:27:43. > :27:46.English Channel and a lot more is being read into that than it
:27:47. > :27:49.necessarily the case. The media here are extremely excited about it but
:27:50. > :27:52.everything your correspondent explained about them passing through
:27:53. > :27:58.is perfectly normal. They have the right to get through international
:27:59. > :28:02.waters and everything that passes through these shipping lane is
:28:03. > :28:06.watched closely and it is normal for the Royal Navy to keep tabs on major
:28:07. > :28:13.Russian naval assets. In that respect there is nothing exciting
:28:14. > :28:17.about this. It is quite a show of force, isn't it? I would be the
:28:18. > :28:22.largest deployment of the Russian Navy has made once these ships
:28:23. > :28:26.joined with others returning from the Mediterranean but it is part of
:28:27. > :28:31.a process. Russia has been building up this for long time, accessing
:28:32. > :28:34.naval expeditions for the last ten years ever since they restarted
:28:35. > :28:37.long-range patrolling. They have been practising using their
:28:38. > :28:43.different weapons systems and acid in Syria, even the ones not suited
:28:44. > :28:49.for the job, to make the most of the training opportunity as they
:28:50. > :28:53.describe it. How will the way this is being seen, although I appreciate
:28:54. > :29:00.what you are saying, but how will this be seen in Russia? It could be
:29:01. > :29:05.that it was intended initially as some form of test or provocation or
:29:06. > :29:12.demonstration of forced. It might have been that, as with previous
:29:13. > :29:15.cruises in Norwegian waters by the Kuznetsov, there was some sort of
:29:16. > :29:21.irresponsible action protest the country but it seems that if this is
:29:22. > :29:26.attention seeking, they have already got that. They might not need to do
:29:27. > :29:30.anything anti-social because everybody's attention is on this
:29:31. > :29:36.flotilla and in that respect Russia has achieved what it wants. You
:29:37. > :29:39.think there is an element of that? Absolutely, it is an element of what
:29:40. > :29:43.Russia is trying to do in terms of preparing for what they feel is a
:29:44. > :29:47.growing conflict with the West. They want to make sure that everybody is
:29:48. > :29:51.aware that they have a potent and capable military and there are costs
:29:52. > :29:55.in doing things which Russia does not like. They have a recent track
:29:56. > :29:59.record of showing off more and more of their military capability, both
:30:00. > :30:03.within Syria, demonstrating as much of their weaponry and tactics and
:30:04. > :30:07.individuals as possible, but also beyond in northern Europe. The
:30:08. > :30:13.long-awaited move of long-range missiles to Kader Nouni grad. It is
:30:14. > :30:16.all part of a pattern and part of their long-term programme of being
:30:17. > :30:21.ready for a big conflict. And in response to British warships are
:30:22. > :30:30.shadowing an aircraft carrier and those naval ships. That's right, but
:30:31. > :30:33.again, perfectly normal. If you think of this in the pattern of
:30:34. > :30:38.Russian aircraft probing British airspace, coming close but not
:30:39. > :30:41.inside it, testing their weapons runs for collecting intelligence on
:30:42. > :30:46.this country, practising strikes come all the time it is monitored by
:30:47. > :30:48.British and other Nato air and radar assets to make sure what they are up
:30:49. > :30:50.to. Thank you. Wales remembers victims of
:30:51. > :31:10.the Aberfan disaster 50 years ago. We will hear from somebody who was
:31:11. > :31:11.at the school, aged eight, when it happened.
:31:12. > :31:14.And it's not just the sugar in fizzy drinks that can damage your health -
:31:15. > :31:16.new research has revealed that drinks containing artificial
:31:17. > :31:18.sweeteners can also lead to health complications,
:31:19. > :31:21.With the News, here's Ben in the BBC Newsroom.
:31:22. > :31:25.A minute's silence has been held to mark the 50th anniversary
:31:26. > :31:28.150,000 tonnes of coal waste engulfed a junior school
:31:29. > :31:34.and surrounding homes in the Welsh village, killing 144 people,
:31:35. > :31:38.Prince Charles is attending a ceremony in Aberfan this morning,
:31:39. > :31:46.and more events to commemorate the disaster will be held
:31:47. > :31:51.Former Prime Minister David Cameron has congratulated Robert Courts
:31:52. > :31:54.on his victory in the Witney by-election.
:31:55. > :31:56.Mr Courts was elected to the Oxfordshire seat
:31:57. > :31:59.with a reduced majority, with the Conservative vote share
:32:00. > :32:11.Labour retained Batley in West Yorkshire -
:32:12. > :32:13.left vacant since the killing of Jo Cox in June.
:32:14. > :32:16.The party's candidate, Tracy Brabin, won a majority
:32:17. > :32:27.The other main parties chose not to put up candidates.
:32:28. > :32:30.Two British warships are shadowing a Russian aircraft carrier and other
:32:31. > :32:32.naval ships as they pass close to the UK.
:32:33. > :32:34.The ships are heading through the English Channel
:32:35. > :32:37.on their way, it's thought, to the eastern Mediterranean.
:32:38. > :32:38.There's been criticism of Russia's aggressive
:32:39. > :32:40.polices from the President of the European Council,
:32:41. > :32:43.Theresa May will hold talks with the President
:32:44. > :32:46.of the EU Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker,
:32:47. > :32:48.in Brussels this lunchtime, where she's attending her first EU
:32:49. > :32:53.Mrs May told EU leaders last night that the UK would play a full part
:32:54. > :32:57.in decision-making until the Brexit process is complete.
:32:58. > :32:59.The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, said she expects
:33:00. > :33:05.the Brexit negotiations to be "rough-going".
:33:06. > :33:12.Join me for BBC Newsroom Live at 11 o'clock.
:33:13. > :33:20.Jessica's back now with the morning's sports headlines.
:33:21. > :33:26.We're onto day two of England's first Test in Bangladesh.
:33:27. > :33:28.England were all out for 293 in their first innings.
:33:29. > :33:31.Bangladesh had a bit of a wobble early on in their reply,
:33:32. > :33:33.but they've found they're rhythm, with Tamim Iqbal
:33:34. > :33:39.A moment ago, Bangladesh were on 154-3.
:33:40. > :33:41.World-record signing Paul Pogba scored twice as Manchester United
:33:42. > :33:44.beat Fenerbahce 4-1 at Old Trafford in the Europa League.
:33:45. > :33:46.Former United striker Robin van Persie scored the consolation
:33:47. > :33:55.They lost 1-0 at Inter Milan after missing a host of chances.
:33:56. > :33:59.Despite Southampton's 11 shots in the second half,
:34:00. > :34:03.it was the Italian side who got the only goal in the San Siro.
:34:04. > :34:14.And it's been confirmed this morning that, after a difficult few months,
:34:15. > :34:16.Ian Drake will step down as chief executive of British
:34:17. > :34:20.In a statement, he said it was the right time to move on.
:34:21. > :34:27.That is it, more across the day on the Channel.
:34:28. > :34:29.As you've been hearing, a minute's silence has been observed
:34:30. > :34:32.in Aberfan to mark the 50th anniversary of the disaster which
:34:33. > :34:36.150,000 tonnes of coal waste engulfed the village in South Wales,
:34:37. > :34:37.destroying a junior school and surrounding homes.
:34:38. > :34:43.Bethan Rhys-Roberts is in Aberfan for us.
:34:44. > :34:51.Thank you very much. Yes, the service down at the cemetery has
:34:52. > :34:56.just finished, there were 300-400 people, among them Prince Charles,
:34:57. > :35:00.survivors, families, local dignitaries and politicians paying
:35:01. > :35:05.their respects. Many of them now coming to the memorial garden here,
:35:06. > :35:10.the exact place where Pantglas Primary School stud. We will talk to
:35:11. > :35:14.survivors later on. First, let's hear eyewitness accounts as they
:35:15. > :35:24.unfolded on disastrous days 50 years ago. What happened, Mrs Griffiths? I
:35:25. > :35:27.just came in from getting the milk and I noticed the children were
:35:28. > :35:32.playing in the street going on their way to school and I just went in to
:35:33. > :35:37.give my children their breakfast and I heard a terrible noise like a jet,
:35:38. > :35:42.exactly like a jet was coming very low and crashing. I ran out the back
:35:43. > :35:49.and all I could see was eight arable black cloud of smoke and dust and my
:35:50. > :35:53.neighbours said, there has been an explosion by the school. I ran back
:35:54. > :35:56.in the House and I told my eldest little girl, Pat, addressed the
:35:57. > :36:01.babies quickly and get out, I am running down the phone the police.
:36:02. > :36:05.Which I did, I ran down to the Social Democratic club, I told the
:36:06. > :36:09.landlady, they gave me money to dial up and I didn't really need the
:36:10. > :36:13.money, I dialled 999 and said to send the police. Some of the
:36:14. > :36:24.children were not in school at the time? They're definitely where
:36:25. > :36:27.children playing in the street. Somebody said they were going into
:36:28. > :36:30.the local sweet shop. There was one little girl in the sweet shop, I am
:36:31. > :36:33.certain of that, I saw her myself. What happens to her? They have not
:36:34. > :36:35.got any of them, that road has gone and my road, everything has gone.
:36:36. > :36:42.My daughter is in it. How old is your daughter? Eight. When did you
:36:43. > :36:46.last see her? This morning. Any idea where she might be? No idea at all,
:36:47. > :36:50.I have tried to find out, but you asked the police and they will not
:36:51. > :36:55.release any information until the Chief Constable decides. Do you know
:36:56. > :37:00.which classroom she was in? Well, looking up there, you cannot tell
:37:01. > :37:07.what class was what, it is just all buried, everything.
:37:08. > :37:09.Janett Bickley survived the tragedy as an eight-year-old school girl
:37:10. > :37:19.And I am also joined by Dennis. You have just been at the service, it
:37:20. > :37:25.must have been incredibly moving? Yes, very poignant, as a community,
:37:26. > :37:30.we do not get together at a big gathering. Big anniversary, 50
:37:31. > :37:33.years, so we pulled together. A bit difficult sullying the parents but
:37:34. > :37:38.the survivors are there and we are lucky to be able to to attend some
:37:39. > :37:41.children could not attend because they died -- difficult seeing the
:37:42. > :37:47.parents. What you remember of that day 50 years ago, you are here? I
:37:48. > :37:50.remember it vividly, waking up in the morning, I had been in hospital
:37:51. > :37:55.with pneumonia and my brother said I did not want to go to school because
:37:56. > :37:59.I was sick. I said, I am fine. My mother says, she is fine, my brother
:38:00. > :38:05.said, she doesn't want to go. It was half term, a half day, and wanted to
:38:06. > :38:10.go to school. My mother sent it to school with my brother. I remember
:38:11. > :38:14.walking up the lane to the school and I remember sitting at my desk
:38:15. > :38:19.and saying to the teacher, I think there is smoke outside. And he said,
:38:20. > :38:24.that is the steam from the canteen. He was a young, new teacher. I
:38:25. > :38:30.remember thinking, we haven't got a canteen. It is in the senior school.
:38:31. > :38:35.And it got louder, the rumbling. The smoke got worse, it was steam
:38:36. > :38:39.really. And I put my book over my head and put my head on the desk.
:38:40. > :38:45.And next thing I know, I woke up with the desk over my head basically
:38:46. > :38:52.in the rafters of the roof. You heard screaming around you. One
:38:53. > :38:55.little girl was lying across me. I try to help her and she was
:38:56. > :39:03.screaming for me not to move, she was hurting. And a friend of mine,
:39:04. > :39:07.Melvin, he woke up and he pulled the desk from my head and he was digging
:39:08. > :39:14.me out and he said, let's go for help. So I got out and my friend
:39:15. > :39:19.Gerald grabbed hold of my leg and he asked for help and I could not pull
:39:20. > :39:24.him out. I said, I will going get help. So myself and Melvin climbed
:39:25. > :39:27.out of the hole in the roof. We could not find a way out and we went
:39:28. > :39:32.back in and climbed through a different hole and we ran into the
:39:33. > :39:36.hallway, where people were outside trying to get children through the
:39:37. > :39:41.window. So I wouldn't go out because of the young boy in front of me,
:39:42. > :39:47.Bernhard Thomas. He wouldn't move, he was so traumatised. So Mr
:39:48. > :39:53.Williams jumped through the window and he grabbed hold of me and he
:39:54. > :39:56.pulled me out and he took me directly across the road to a house
:39:57. > :40:01.and he put me on the sofa waiting for an ambulance. I said, I need to
:40:02. > :40:05.go back because my friend, my friends are and they went back into
:40:06. > :40:09.get the rest the survivors and I said, my mother will never find me
:40:10. > :40:18.and they said, they will find you, so I waited and I ran away. Dennis,
:40:19. > :40:21.you are 18 and in Cardiff at the time and you just had to volunteer,
:40:22. > :40:26.you came here to help. That is right, there was a newsflash and my
:40:27. > :40:34.mum told me about it and I felt that I needed to do something at that
:40:35. > :40:40.age. And when I got here really, the police were stopping everybody. I
:40:41. > :40:44.got through because I wore my army uniform, and they let's through, me
:40:45. > :40:51.and my friend. We came here and we noticed devastation. We did not know
:40:52. > :40:57.what to do and where to start. I remember I was either in or on top
:40:58. > :41:01.of the school. I saw people around me working, nobody telling you what
:41:02. > :41:05.they do. It was a case of just mocking him and getting on with it
:41:06. > :41:08.because there was a slurry from the mountain which was everywhere.
:41:09. > :41:11.Nobody knew basically where the children work but we could guess
:41:12. > :41:17.where they would be and that is where we started working. So they
:41:18. > :41:24.were digging through the schoolroom, I believe it was a room and we
:41:25. > :41:30.formed a line, and we got a shovel and we were shovelling the mock out
:41:31. > :41:35.to get it out. Until today, you had not met a survivor. Yes, this has a
:41:36. > :41:44.special meaning, I am glad I am here to meet the survivors. You just had
:41:45. > :41:48.to be here today? Yes, yes. People didn't talk about Aberfan four years
:41:49. > :41:52.after the disaster and you have spoken about this. He had to keep it
:41:53. > :41:57.under wraps, what did that do to you? Well, I lived in a small
:41:58. > :42:02.cul-de-sac and out of the children that went to school that day,
:42:03. > :42:06.because some did not because it was half term, out of the children, I
:42:07. > :42:11.was the only one who came home alive. So my mother said, you are
:42:12. > :42:16.lucky, just don't talk about it. So that was it, it was never talked
:42:17. > :42:22.about a game between us. A sense of survivors guilt that so many talk
:42:23. > :42:26.about? Yes, we all went to school together and not of us spoke to each
:42:27. > :42:30.other about it. That was the strangest thing because I did not
:42:31. > :42:34.know what the others remembered, perhaps they did not remember it.
:42:35. > :42:38.Dennis, you have got messages this morning from people who did not
:42:39. > :42:42.realise you were involved in any form with Aberfan? That is right, it
:42:43. > :42:48.is not something you talk about. It is in the back of your mind and
:42:49. > :42:51.through the career I have, because it took me to this sort of career,
:42:52. > :42:58.there were times I would have memories of it and mostly affected
:42:59. > :43:02.when I was involved with a child. That would bring back that memory.
:43:03. > :43:08.And you nearly lost your job for volunteering that day. I did, I was
:43:09. > :43:12.working for a firm at that time and because I spent a couple of days
:43:13. > :43:15.away from work because I had to recover because I was so tired after
:43:16. > :43:19.the time I spent here, and when I went to work, and was called into
:43:20. > :43:23.the office because in those days, we did not have a phone in the House
:43:24. > :43:28.and there was no way to make contact. When I got in, he called me
:43:29. > :43:37.in and said I had been absent four days, what have you got to say about
:43:38. > :43:40.that? I said, I can only say I am sorry. He said sorry was not good
:43:41. > :43:43.enough and they would suck you in those days for being absent anyway.
:43:44. > :43:50.I was sent out and I was called back in and the officer in charge said,
:43:51. > :43:56.why did you not tell me you went to Aberfan? -- they would dismiss you
:43:57. > :44:00.in those days. I said I didn't think about. He said, thank you for the
:44:01. > :44:05.community spirit you showed and we will pay you for those days, don't
:44:06. > :44:09.worry. They even had a letter in the post to say thank you for what I
:44:10. > :44:15.did, that was really lovely for me. And the importance of the day, we
:44:16. > :44:20.have had a minute's silence, the service in the cemetery, is that
:44:21. > :44:25.cathartic? How important is that? Very important, because it feels...
:44:26. > :44:32.I will never forget it and I don't want to. It is a line under it for
:44:33. > :44:35.me. I will not be here for the next big anniversary of course but my
:44:36. > :44:40.grandchildren have been involved as well, singing in the Millennium
:44:41. > :44:49.Centre and they'll learning about it now. I have got grandchildren in
:44:50. > :44:55.Somerset and Cornwall, West Wales and Aberfan, learning about it now.
:44:56. > :44:58.They find it very hard to know grandma was there, so a lot of
:44:59. > :45:04.questions at the moment, it is difficult. They are the age I was at
:45:05. > :45:09.the time. It has been very difficult over the years to talk about it.
:45:10. > :45:15.Reporters have been asking, we just want to stay silent and we always
:45:16. > :45:22.did. But it seems easier to talk about it on television because what
:45:23. > :45:25.I say to you now, what I have said, it cannot be misinterpreted, which
:45:26. > :45:30.the newspapers do misinterpret anything you say. And the importance
:45:31. > :45:32.of standing here today, Dennis, it has affected your career choice. You
:45:33. > :45:44.are a paramedic because of Aberfan. The biggest thing I took away from
:45:45. > :45:49.this, the positive side, it was about coming here today, I did not
:45:50. > :45:51.want the media attention, I didn't realise I was retiring on the
:45:52. > :46:00.anniversary until I was told about it, it was coincidental. It is used
:46:01. > :46:04.coming here and sharing with other people exactly what has been going
:46:05. > :46:08.on. One of the biggest things I took away from this, from an equality
:46:09. > :46:13.point of view more than anything, is that it did not matter where you
:46:14. > :46:17.came from, what language you spoke, what colour you work we were here as
:46:18. > :46:20.one as a family and we worked together, no discolouration
:46:21. > :46:25.whatsoever. That is a positive side to this. Thank you ever so much to
:46:26. > :46:29.both of you for sharing your memories.
:46:30. > :46:39.Thank you. One anonymous text says, I arrived at Aberfan at 9:45am on
:46:40. > :46:42.that they are the young policeman. I left there at 830 at night, I still
:46:43. > :46:49.have nightmares of the date will stop a woman asked us to help her
:46:50. > :46:53.little boy. One of our site and is put his arm around her and said we
:46:54. > :46:58.will do what we can and we went in. Hazel says she members crying
:46:59. > :47:04.watching the television. The presenter was crying. I will always
:47:05. > :47:09.have those children and teachers in my heart. Jim says, when I got in
:47:10. > :47:13.from school, my mother and aunt were watching the television and crying.
:47:14. > :47:17.It affected everybody in my class. We were totally aware of the
:47:18. > :47:21.enormity of the disaster and the pictures we were seeing on the news
:47:22. > :47:23.bring it all back, a tragedy that a community as lived with since that
:47:24. > :47:29.day and our thoughts are with each one.
:47:30. > :47:32.Drinking two cans of fizzy drinks a day can increase your risk
:47:33. > :47:37.According to researchers at the Karolinska Institute,
:47:38. > :47:39.sugary drinks containing artificial sweeteners can also lead
:47:40. > :47:41.to complications including, heart attacks, kidney problems,
:47:42. > :47:47.The study followed 2,874 people in Sweden and compared them
:47:48. > :47:54.Now 90% of people have type 2 diabetes.
:47:55. > :47:56.That's about 3.5 million people in the UK
:47:57. > :48:00.And this morning, there are calls from the campaign group
:48:01. > :48:05.Action on Sugar for a tax on all sugary drinks.
:48:06. > :48:07.Joining us from Sweden is Doctor Josefin Lofvenborg.
:48:08. > :48:10.She's the lead scientist who carried out the research.
:48:11. > :48:13.And with me in the studio is Professor Graham MacGregor.
:48:14. > :48:18.He's an NHS cardiovascular expert and chair of Action on Sugar.
:48:19. > :48:27.Thank you for joining us. Tell us more about this study. Obviously it
:48:28. > :48:35.is very interesting, not least because even diet drinks raise your
:48:36. > :48:41.risk. Tell us how much two drinks would elevate your risk of diabetes?
:48:42. > :48:46.What we found was that consuming more than two sweetened beverages
:48:47. > :48:56.per day would increase your risk of diabetes about to fold. Both for
:48:57. > :49:01.type 2 diabetes and also latent or immune -- autoimmune diabetes.
:49:02. > :49:10.Little is known about the risk factors for that kind of diabetes.
:49:11. > :49:14.What conclusions would you draw about the way that policymakers
:49:15. > :49:21.should deal with this? Regarding sugary drinks, it is hard to find
:49:22. > :49:26.any health benefits from them so reducing them and limiting their
:49:27. > :49:29.intake is very good idea for various reasons. When it comes to
:49:30. > :49:35.artificially sweetened beverages, it more tricky. More studies are needed
:49:36. > :49:39.before we can draw any conclusions. It is interesting to have these
:49:40. > :49:44.findings but we need to dig deeper into this and try to understand what
:49:45. > :49:48.is driving these associations. Were you surprised by what you found
:49:49. > :49:54.about artificially sweetened drinks? Yes, to some extent. There are
:49:55. > :50:01.hypotheses that could perhaps explain this but still we thought we
:50:02. > :50:03.would see some kind of difference between the sugary drinks and
:50:04. > :50:08.artificially sweetened drinks. We were a bit surprised. What is your
:50:09. > :50:15.reaction to what they have discovered? It is a very interesting
:50:16. > :50:18.study and it joins a growing body of evidence that artificially sweetened
:50:19. > :50:24.drinks are not good for you. They are related to infertility in women,
:50:25. > :50:29.they don't give you the weight loss that they should do when you switch
:50:30. > :50:33.from sugar sweetened to artificial or water, you get more weight loss
:50:34. > :50:39.with water than artificial one and they also affect the gut microbiota
:50:40. > :50:51.and that may lead to obesity and certainly in animals. How does this
:50:52. > :50:56.feed into the debate, a tax on sugary brings, diet drinks should be
:50:57. > :50:59.brought into that? I think so. There is no evidence these strings are any
:51:00. > :51:06.good for you and there was a growing body that there are bad for you. We
:51:07. > :51:10.are aware that sugar sweetened drinks they are of no benefit, empty
:51:11. > :51:14.calories and we need people to stop printing them because they cause
:51:15. > :51:19.obesity and type 2 diabetes. -- drinking them. This is suggesting
:51:20. > :51:24.that artificially sweetened drinks might do the same so we have to
:51:25. > :51:27.think carefully of the tactics of Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola, saying
:51:28. > :51:32.they are reforming into artificially sweetened drinks and you don't need
:51:33. > :51:35.to worry but they maintain the same sales. There are still people
:51:36. > :51:41.getting beat and getting type 2 diabetes and it is very worrying. --
:51:42. > :51:47.getting obese. Are there warning signs that you are on the path to
:51:48. > :51:50.type 2 diabetes? It can be reversed in the early stages but when you
:51:51. > :51:55.have the full-blown syndrome, which most people do, you have to diet and
:51:56. > :52:00.take exercise and things that most people are not prepared to do. The
:52:01. > :52:05.problem is that it is the biggest cause of blindness in the UK and in
:52:06. > :52:11.Sweden, the biggest cause of renal replacement for dialysis and
:52:12. > :52:17.transplant and the biggest cause of habitation, you can get gangrene and
:52:18. > :52:23.had a leg amputated. -- amputation. This costs the into pounds, around
:52:24. > :52:28.?10 billion and it is due to excellent two levels, some have
:52:29. > :52:32.estimated, that it will double or triple in the next ten years and it
:52:33. > :52:36.will bankrupt the health service. Theresa May is in charge of the
:52:37. > :52:39.obesity policy and she has to take this seriously and start getting
:52:40. > :52:46.interested in how she will prevent obesity. What is the policy in
:52:47. > :52:55.Sweden? Is this an issue, you have done your study, but is it an issue
:52:56. > :53:00.that is being looked at more widely? Consumption is high also hear as in
:53:01. > :53:09.many places in the world. We don't have the same debate as you have had
:53:10. > :53:12.about sugar tax. Of course it is brought up every now and then and it
:53:13. > :53:18.will be interesting to follow what will happen with the consumption in
:53:19. > :53:20.the UK after this. It is quick to talk to you both, thank you very
:53:21. > :53:37.much. -- great to talk. Government borrowing is up. By how
:53:38. > :53:42.much? The fact that it is up is not good news. It is up to ?10.6 billion
:53:43. > :53:48.but it was supposed to drop. When we're talking about borrowing, we're
:53:49. > :53:52.talking about the amount by which the government outspend id. Income,
:53:53. > :53:55.the budget deficit, and you have to borrow the difference. If we spent
:53:56. > :53:58.more than our income, we would have been find the money from somewhere
:53:59. > :54:04.else and the government find it by borrowing. If you're trying to
:54:05. > :54:09.reduce the deficit, you don't want it going up which is what it has
:54:10. > :54:12.just done. Most economists thought that in September the public sector
:54:13. > :54:18.would borrow about ?8.5 billion more than previously but it is actually
:54:19. > :54:21.10.6 billion. If you look at the year-to-date numbers it is even
:54:22. > :54:27.worse because you have six months of the financial year to date from
:54:28. > :54:32.April until now and we have already borrowed ?45.5 billion. The target
:54:33. > :54:35.for the whole year was 55 billion so they don't have much chance of
:54:36. > :54:41.hitting that. So what is going to happen? We will have some revised
:54:42. > :54:51.targets and forecasts coming out in the Autumn Statement also Philip
:54:52. > :54:56.Hammond has already said they are not having eliminating the deficit
:54:57. > :55:01.by 2020 as that primary goal. That is there enough but you start asking
:55:02. > :55:04.when. If we don't do it by 2020, when is this aspirational goal to
:55:05. > :55:09.have more money coming in than going out going to happen? It becomes very
:55:10. > :55:16.indefinite and increasingly remote. Thank you.
:55:17. > :55:19.Now in its seventh year, Radio One's Teen Hero awards
:55:20. > :55:21.celebrate the achievements of young people aged between 12 and 17
:55:22. > :55:24.who have gone above and beyond what is expected of them.
:55:25. > :55:27.This year a group of them had an experience of a lifetime
:55:28. > :55:39.Clara and I are here with our teen heroes at a secret location,
:55:40. > :55:42.and we're waiting excitedly for our special guests.
:55:43. > :55:45.Greg has gone to meet them and he's going to bring them
:55:46. > :55:59.As big names go, I think the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
:56:00. > :56:08.When the Duke and Duchess first walked in it was like,
:56:09. > :56:16.Still kind of feel like I'm dreaming a bit.
:56:17. > :56:19.Yeah, just waiting to wake up in a bit.
:56:20. > :56:20.It's the first time I've ever met royalty.
:56:21. > :56:22.They were genuinely interested in our stories.
:56:23. > :56:25.I suppose I don't know how all of you sort of find time
:56:26. > :56:34.I think this afternoon has been the perfect way to let our teen
:56:35. > :56:35.heroes know just how valued they are.
:56:36. > :56:37.People are looking up to you and saying,
:56:38. > :56:40."You guys are shining lights for your age group."
:56:41. > :56:44.We also have some badges that we'd like to distribute
:56:45. > :56:50.So I have my glamorous assistant here.
:56:51. > :56:53.This is our teen hero badge that we were just given
:56:54. > :56:57.Only ten people have these in the world.
:56:58. > :57:07.Thank you to Radio 1 as well for the Teen Awards, it's fantastic
:57:08. > :57:11.You're the most modest people I've ever met.
:57:12. > :57:14.You should be very, very proud of all the hard work
:57:15. > :57:20.Today has been a day that none of us will forget in a hurry.
:57:21. > :57:23.You get to shout about some incredible young people who do
:57:24. > :57:26.wonderful things for others and also have a day at the Palace.
:57:27. > :57:28.It's a royal seal of approval, and it doesn't really get
:57:29. > :57:33.any better than that, I don't think.
:57:34. > :57:47.A couple of comments on the conservation we were having about
:57:48. > :57:53.the impact of fizzy drinks on diabetes risk. Martin, a busy drinks
:57:54. > :57:59.packs of 10p should be increased to at least ?1, that the only way to
:58:00. > :58:02.stop people -- fizzy drinks. James says I have always believed that
:58:03. > :58:06.busy drinks that don't contain sugar were safe and I'm worried now. And a
:58:07. > :58:11.couple of comments on sexual harassment in universities, Ian, Lad
:58:12. > :58:15.culture is the same as Trump locker room culture, it is giving the
:58:16. > :58:17.majority of lad and undeserved bad reputation. Thank you for your
:58:18. > :58:19.comments.