26/10/2016

:00:00. > :00:07.Hello it's Wednesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:08. > :00:14.There needs to be a radical overhaul of how we treat

:00:15. > :00:17.young adult criminals because of the way their brains

:00:18. > :00:24.are developing says an influential group of MPs.

:00:25. > :00:32.Prison for me at the age of 18 was really hard, the separation from my

:00:33. > :00:35.family, my parents, it was hard to understand, now I'm wasting my life

:00:36. > :00:39.sitting in a cell when I could have been studying, trying to get a job

:00:40. > :00:42.and do things that are positive to my life but clearly, because of the

:00:43. > :00:49.choice that I made, now I'm sitting in a cell. We'll hear from people on

:00:50. > :00:53.both sides of the debate and we want to hear from you too. Get in touch

:00:54. > :01:03.in the usual ways. You can e-mail, tweet or text.

:01:04. > :01:11.Clive James talks to us about his illness and predicting the future.

:01:12. > :01:15.He has had leukaemia for six years. I expected to be gone by now but

:01:16. > :01:18.there is no point in making predictions. The big decision you

:01:19. > :01:22.have to make is whether you will go on and try to do what you think you

:01:23. > :01:29.are good at or whether you just lie down.

:01:30. > :01:31.And after 10 this morning, mums and dads of autistic children

:01:32. > :01:33.can be trained in communication to reduce the severity

:01:34. > :01:35.of their child's disorder new research shows.

:01:36. > :01:50.Hello and welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:51. > :01:53.Later we'll talk about footballs fans' attitudes to gay players.

:01:54. > :01:56.In a 5 Live poll the vast majority of fans say they would be

:01:57. > :01:58.comfortable with their club signing a gay player.

:01:59. > :02:01.But 8% say they wouldn't watch their team if it

:02:02. > :02:08.As always we want to hear what you think.

:02:09. > :02:17.Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million for failing customers in the UK.

:02:18. > :02:20.The communications regulator OFCOM found "serious and sustained

:02:21. > :02:23.breaches of consumer protection rules" by the company.

:02:24. > :02:27.Vodafone has admitted the breaches and apologised.

:02:28. > :02:31.Our correspondent Andrew Walker is here.

:02:32. > :02:38.What have they done wrong? The official failure was the result of a

:02:39. > :02:43.complicated IT process whereby they changed the billing systems. As a

:02:44. > :02:47.result of that, more than 10,000 customers using pay-as-you-go

:02:48. > :02:50.systems paid money to reactivate phones that had been dormant for

:02:51. > :02:55.nine months or more and thought they would be able to make calls, send

:02:56. > :03:00.texts but they couldn't. The billing system failed to credit them. On top

:03:01. > :03:04.of that, the regulator says that Vodafone failed to take effective

:03:05. > :03:09.and vigorous action quickly enough to deal with the complaints when

:03:10. > :03:18.they came in. In total, there are more than ten thousand customers

:03:19. > :03:21.affected. Vodafone paid an average of ?14 but there are some customers

:03:22. > :03:26.they couldn't track down and they say they don't want to profit as a

:03:27. > :03:30.result of that, so they've made a donation of ?100,000 to donation.

:03:31. > :03:33.This sounds like a big fine, is it? It's certainly intended to send a

:03:34. > :03:37.message to the whole industry that Ofcom is taking all this seriously

:03:38. > :03:41.and that they really do need to be serious about dealing with their

:03:42. > :03:49.customers and responding quickly to their complaints. It's not that big

:03:50. > :03:51.in that sense though. Thank you very much.

:03:52. > :03:53.And we'll be speaking to OFCOM later in the hour.

:03:54. > :03:55.Julian is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:03:56. > :04:00.There's a call for sweeping changes to the way the criminal justice

:04:01. > :04:02.system deals with offenders aged between 18 and 25 -

:04:03. > :04:04.because of the way their brains mature.

:04:05. > :04:06.MPs on the Justice Committee say they offend the most,

:04:07. > :04:10.but have the greatest potential to stop offending -

:04:11. > :04:12.at a time when their brains are still developing.

:04:13. > :04:14.The government says efforts have been made to divert young people

:04:15. > :04:18.from custody and it recognises the challenges with this age group.

:04:19. > :04:20.However, the Commons report says there's been a "lack of action"

:04:21. > :04:26.And Victoria will be discussing this story in the next few minutes.

:04:27. > :04:29.Treating children with autism from the age of two can

:04:30. > :04:33.significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms - and keep up that

:04:34. > :04:37.improvement over six years - a ground-breaking study has found.

:04:38. > :04:39.The research is the first to identify that early intervention

:04:40. > :04:45.It's been carried out by King's College London

:04:46. > :04:47.and the universities of Manchester and Newcastle.

:04:48. > :04:51.Our Health Correspondent Robert Pigott reports.

:04:52. > :04:54.Aaron Sawyer-Coppers loves football, drums and Lego and is among the 1%

:04:55. > :05:00.As a four-year-old, he was withdrawn and unresponsive,

:05:01. > :05:02.but researchers spent a year teaching his mother Tracey how

:05:03. > :05:05.to read what efforts he did make to communicate.

:05:06. > :05:11.She reviewed video of their encounters and learned how

:05:12. > :05:17.It became where Aaron was actually leading the play

:05:18. > :05:24.And then he would look at me, to see if I was doing what he was doing.

:05:25. > :05:26.Very little facial gestures, but more than...

:05:27. > :05:32.And it was lovely, just to see he could actually play

:05:33. > :05:35.with toys rather than just banging them together.

:05:36. > :05:38.He did what they were supposed to do.

:05:39. > :05:41.At the end of the training, 15% fewer of the children whose

:05:42. > :05:44.parents participated displayed autistic symptoms classified

:05:45. > :05:48.as severe, compared with children given standard treatment.

:05:49. > :05:50.After six years, 17% fewer could be classified as severely disabled,

:05:51. > :06:01.This was a modest intensity time-limited to 12 months

:06:02. > :06:07.Having enduring effects over six years and who knows,

:06:08. > :06:10.but possibly effects that would last and continue for longer

:06:11. > :06:13.through adolescence into adulthood would be quite a remarkable thing.

:06:14. > :06:17.The long-term benefits included core elements of autism, which have been

:06:18. > :06:21.regarded as highly resistant to change such as improvements

:06:22. > :06:25.in social communication and reduction in repetitive behaviours.

:06:26. > :06:31.The parent-focused treatment is not a cure for autism but experts say

:06:32. > :06:34.the sustained benefit to children is remarkable and encouraging.

:06:35. > :06:40.The transport secretary, Chris Grayling, will make the case

:06:41. > :06:43.for Heathrow's expansion - during a visit to the north

:06:44. > :06:48.The government believes increasing capacity at the London airport

:06:49. > :06:54.Two cabinet ministers have publicly criticised the plan,

:06:55. > :07:05.and Zac Goldsmith has quit as a Tory MP, triggering a by-election.

:07:06. > :07:11.The Transport Secretary insists everyone will benefit. Everyone

:07:12. > :07:17.benefits from us doing this, albeit it's difficult for people that live

:07:18. > :07:22.close by. Fill look at the difference this will make, creating

:07:23. > :07:26.opportunities around the world. This is the right thing for the whole

:07:27. > :07:28.country. If we want to fund the National Health Service in the

:07:29. > :07:33.future, if we want to do the right thing by our pensioners, we have to

:07:34. > :07:34.be a nation that creates wealth and opportunity for everyone and works

:07:35. > :07:36.for everyone in it. Apple has reported its first drop

:07:37. > :07:39.in annual revenue since 2001 with sales down 8% in the year

:07:40. > :07:43.to the end of September compared The company says the figures don't

:07:44. > :07:48.take into account the impact Apple is predicting that it

:07:49. > :07:52.will return to growth over Charities have criticised

:07:53. > :07:59.the decision to start demolishing the migrant camp in Calais,

:08:00. > :08:02.while there are still children Save the Children and Unicef have

:08:03. > :08:21.called the situation "unacceptable". It's estimated over 4,000 refugees

:08:22. > :08:30.have been through the processing centres.

:08:31. > :08:33.A survey for the BBC suggests that a big majority of football fans

:08:34. > :08:37.would feel comfortable if the clubs they support were to sign a gay

:08:38. > :08:39.player.Less than ten per cent said they would withdraw their support.

:08:40. > :08:42.Younger fans appeared more hostile than older people to the idea.

:08:43. > :08:45.More than half of those taking part said they had witnessed homophobic

:08:46. > :08:47.abuse from the stands during games played in England,

:08:48. > :08:52.Justin Timberlake has avoided a possible criminal investigation

:08:53. > :08:55.after he took a selfie while voting in the US presidential election.

:08:56. > :08:57.The American pop star posted a photograph on Instagram

:08:58. > :09:01.showing him casting a ballot in Memphis, Tennessee,

:09:02. > :09:04.with a message encouraging people to vote ahead

:09:05. > :09:20.He's already a "House"-hold name in the States but now Hugh Laurie

:09:21. > :09:23.has cemented his place among Hollywood's elite with his own star

:09:24. > :09:27.The British actor was presented with the honour

:09:28. > :09:29.in Los Angeles yesterday where he described himself

:09:30. > :09:36.He's known to millions of Americans for his role

:09:37. > :09:39.in medical drama House - for which he received

:09:40. > :09:44.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9.30.

:09:45. > :09:50.Should young adult offenders, people who commit crimes

:09:51. > :09:52.between the ages of 18 to 25, not be treated as adults

:09:53. > :09:59.An influential group of MPs think so - we will be finding out why.

:10:00. > :10:02.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning - use the hashtag

:10:03. > :10:06.Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged at the standard

:10:07. > :10:17.Particularly interesting to hear from you if you've offended between

:10:18. > :10:25.the age of 18-25. Jess you've got more details

:10:26. > :10:39.on the survey of sports fans More than 4,000 people took part in

:10:40. > :10:44.the online poll across 11 sports and 82% said they wouldn't have an issue

:10:45. > :10:48.with it. The most high-profile male footballer is former Aston Villa

:10:49. > :10:52.player Thomas Hitzlsperger a couple of years ago. He said at the time

:10:53. > :10:57.being a gay player isn't a big deal in the dressing room but he did wait

:10:58. > :11:00.until he'd retired before revealing his sexuality. It was often debated

:11:01. > :11:08.whether a current male footballer would come out in England, the first

:11:09. > :11:12.and only was Justin Fashanu in 1990 but his career suffered for it and

:11:13. > :11:19.he took his own life for it. The women's game is a lot more tolerant

:11:20. > :11:22.on the issue of sexuality and former England captain Casey Stoney came

:11:23. > :11:26.out and received a lot of support. In Rugby League Keegan Hurst is an

:11:27. > :11:31.openly outplayer, playing for Wakefield now. When he came out

:11:32. > :11:35.whilst playing for his old club he said he received lots of support

:11:36. > :11:38.too. It seems to be a mixed picture across the different sports,

:11:39. > :11:40.interesting to hear more about the topic when you delve into it later

:11:41. > :11:43.in the programme. Liverpool are keeping

:11:44. > :11:57.up their good run of form - Daniel Sturridge scored both goals

:11:58. > :12:01.and could have had a few more actually. Liverpool are through to

:12:02. > :12:05.the quarter-finals of the EFL cup, they extend their unbeaten run to

:12:06. > :12:10.ten games. Not bad is it? ! In the pick of tonight's cup games, it's a

:12:11. > :12:13.Manchester Derby with United taking on City at Old Trafford.

:12:14. > :12:18.And Bradley Wiggins is taking part in his last event

:12:19. > :12:31.Cycling commuters will like this one. Have you ever had to slow down

:12:32. > :12:36.for a traffic light but didn't want to stop so tried to balance without

:12:37. > :12:41.putting your feet on the ground. That's what these cyclists were

:12:42. > :12:46.doing alongside Sir Bradley. He's cycled off already, he's not that

:12:47. > :12:50.good at it. It's known as the longest lap, it took place in London

:12:51. > :12:52.yesterday. It's known as track standing, there you are! Thank you

:12:53. > :12:56.very much talk to you later. Someone who commits a crime

:12:57. > :13:00.between the ages of 18 and 25 should not be treated as an adult

:13:01. > :13:03.by the criminal justice system because their brains

:13:04. > :13:05.are still developing, The Justice Committee says that

:13:06. > :13:10.because young people's brains are still changing, they can be more

:13:11. > :13:13.likely to commit a crime, and need to be treated differently

:13:14. > :13:15.from other offenders. This is crucial - they say -

:13:16. > :13:18.if they're to be stopped We'll be discussing these

:13:19. > :13:22.recommendations in a moment - but first last year,

:13:23. > :13:24.while the justice committee was holding its inquiry,

:13:25. > :13:28.we explored this issue and me a young adult

:13:29. > :13:30.offender called Mario. I turned 18 and literally

:13:31. > :13:37.it was a couple of weeks I was having a drink, I threw

:13:38. > :13:44.a plastic bottle out the window, I hit someone's car,

:13:45. > :13:49.I looked out the window and I realised

:13:50. > :13:51.the man was just swearing. word of English but I

:13:52. > :13:54.understood he was upset. I was under the influence of alcohol

:13:55. > :13:58.so I went to the kitchen, He was trying to call the police

:13:59. > :14:14.so I smashed the window, smashed his phone, I tried to stab

:14:15. > :14:18.him a few times when he was sitting I don't really remember

:14:19. > :14:28.how I did it, but I just know that he suffered

:14:29. > :14:39.an injury in his shoulder. I was given a custodial

:14:40. > :14:44.sentence of four years. Prison, for me, the age

:14:45. > :15:06.of 18 was really hard. The separation from my

:15:07. > :15:09.family, my parents. It was hard to understand that now

:15:10. > :15:11.I'm wasting my life in here, sitting in a cell,

:15:12. > :15:15.when I could be studying, trying to Trying to do things that

:15:16. > :15:21.are positive to my life, but clearly, because of the choice

:15:22. > :15:28.I made, now I'm sitting in a cell. Young adults are treated much like

:15:29. > :15:31.adult offenders, but the evidence Recent research has

:15:32. > :15:36.found that they are More challenging to manage

:15:37. > :15:39.and crucially, more likely to I went back to prison for the simple

:15:40. > :15:48.reasons that there was I wanted to get a house,

:15:49. > :15:58.wanted to get a job, wanted to get an apprenticeship,

:15:59. > :16:02.I wanted to do something positive. But the reality is that

:16:03. > :16:04.there was nothing there. On top of it, now you've got

:16:05. > :16:08.a criminal record, if you thing they will look at,

:16:09. > :16:11."Do you have a criminal record?" "OK, let me give it to somebody else

:16:12. > :16:30.who has those things." People made that assumption that,

:16:31. > :16:32.because I'm now older, I should know And the reality is that I wasn't

:16:33. > :16:37.aware of what I was doing I needed support in

:16:38. > :16:45.the sense of, show me what is right, what's wrong, maybe

:16:46. > :16:48.not necessarily what is right and what's wrong, but how do I overcome

:16:49. > :16:51.the wrong to turn into a right So let's talk to Bob Neil,

:16:52. > :16:56.who's chair of Parliament's Justice committee, Max Rutherford,

:16:57. > :16:57.from the research organisation The Barrow Cadbury Trust -

:16:58. > :17:02.he gave evidence to this committee. And Stanley Cave, who was given

:17:03. > :17:05.a suspended sentence when he was 22. Also, we have Sullman Amad

:17:06. > :17:07.who was sent to prison And we can hear from Steve Gillan

:17:08. > :17:21.from the Prison Welcome all of you, thank you

:17:22. > :17:27.becoming the programme. Bob Neill, what you believe should change as a

:17:28. > :17:29.result of your in Querrey? We have followed very clear medical and

:17:30. > :17:32.scientific evidence that young people in this category of the 25

:17:33. > :17:37.need a distinct approach when they are being dealt with in the justice

:17:38. > :17:40.system. Therefore we need to update the legislation to reflect that so

:17:41. > :17:44.you can deal with them in a way that does pick up on the points that we

:17:45. > :17:47.have just heard, that there is less self-control, less awareness of the

:17:48. > :17:52.harm you do to others, less ability of you like to motivate yourself.

:17:53. > :17:55.This suggests that first of all there should be a guideline to make

:17:56. > :17:58.sure when people are charged and when courts are sentencing there is

:17:59. > :18:04.a check on their maturity and that is taken into account. It varies

:18:05. > :18:09.from person to person. How do you check on somebody's the Judy? You

:18:10. > :18:13.can do it through various reports. If the offence is so seriously

:18:14. > :18:16.someone to go into custody then we should have a system where there is

:18:17. > :18:20.proper screening to make sure they are not vulnerable in some ways,

:18:21. > :18:23.unless there is very clear evidence that there is greater risk of not

:18:24. > :18:27.only learning and educational problems, social problems but also

:18:28. > :18:30.neurological issues that often have not been picked up. That is why

:18:31. > :18:34.sometimes we have seen vulnerable young people in the system. There is

:18:35. > :18:39.not a means for officers to recognise that any get self harming

:18:40. > :18:44.and suicides in prison. Would be screaming pickup on any neurological

:18:45. > :18:47.conditions? It should be able to because the evidence from the

:18:48. > :18:50.medical people, this is the key thing, not talking about academics

:18:51. > :18:54.or politicians, it is clear medical evidence, you can do this and they

:18:55. > :19:00.do it in other countries, they do it in the Netherlands. Do they have a

:19:01. > :19:04.lower reoffending rate? Significantly less. We have one of

:19:05. > :19:09.the worst reoffending rates in that age group and it is worth saying,

:19:10. > :19:14.Victoria, not only is it worse by comparison, it is worse in any other

:19:15. > :19:19.part of the prison population. 75% of young offenders in that bracket

:19:20. > :19:22.reoffend within two years of release. Generally the evidence

:19:23. > :19:25.shows that people are going to turn their lives around they do so about

:19:26. > :19:30.25. That is why they say in the young offenders regime at the moment

:19:31. > :19:32.only applies up to 20 should be extended up to 25, so the

:19:33. > :19:38.institution they are in concentrates much more on turning around those

:19:39. > :19:41.like problems they have got. Many Ah Van rubble themselves. Much more

:19:42. > :19:47.rehabilitation, much more on training, much more on follow-up

:19:48. > :19:51.post release. What do you think, Max Rutherford? We have worked on this

:19:52. > :19:54.agenda for ten years through our transition to add offered programme.

:19:55. > :19:57.We have found three main findings, the first nylon becomes a fully

:19:58. > :20:02.mature adult on the moment of their 18th birthday. It is a process, not

:20:03. > :20:06.an event, that transition to adult hood. What we would say is for the

:20:07. > :20:09.criminal justice system that means that if you take a distinct approach

:20:10. > :20:15.to this age group, you end up with fewer victims of crime, which is the

:20:16. > :20:18.most important thing. You cut reoffending, you end up with young

:20:19. > :20:25.people much more likely to grow out of crime and as a consequence of

:20:26. > :20:30.both of those things, you save the public a lot of money. Stanlake,

:20:31. > :20:33.thank you becoming, you were behind paying your rents are you sold some

:20:34. > :20:38.cannabis to make some cash and you were arrested. That was your

:20:39. > :20:45.punishment? I got put into a suspended sentence, which I ended up

:20:46. > :20:50.provoking later on. It got me for weeks in custody. But you find as

:20:51. > :20:57.well? Yes, about ?120 and I had to do 100 hours of service. Could you

:20:58. > :21:02.afford the fine? Not at that time, no. The punishment you have just

:21:03. > :21:06.ascribed, community service and a fine sounds sort of fair enough,

:21:07. > :21:12.would you say? Yes at the time it was fair enough. But I thought the

:21:13. > :21:15.whole approach was overcome you have committed a crime, there was no

:21:16. > :21:19.reason, they didn't ask the story behind why I was in trouble or

:21:20. > :21:23.anything. It was just you have done a crime, this is the punishment,

:21:24. > :21:30.that was it. Were you expecting some kind of interest in your back story?

:21:31. > :21:35.I have never had that approach, they were oblivious to me, it was as

:21:36. > :21:39.nobody really cares. I have never had that experience. But you are 22,

:21:40. > :21:47.a grown man, so do you need some adults to show that they care? Not

:21:48. > :21:52.necessarily, it wasn't necessarily that I needed someone, but it was

:21:53. > :21:55.just the way that I felt I was treated through the system. There

:21:56. > :22:00.was OK, you have done this, this is your punishment, that is how you

:22:01. > :22:05.take it. What do you think of some of the recommendations from Mister

:22:06. > :22:15.Neil's committee? I think they are very good ideas, because, like you

:22:16. > :22:20.say, the rate of going back into prison is 80%, going back in. What

:22:21. > :22:24.would be different then if your recommendations were in place, what

:22:25. > :22:30.would have been different in Stanley Cave's situation? First of all the

:22:31. > :22:33.CPS would have needed to have considered what the appropriate

:22:34. > :22:36.charges were, and the magistrates court would have had to look a lot

:22:37. > :22:45.more at the background and the sentence. Thirdly, if there had been

:22:46. > :22:51.a period in custody, and fourthly in that recommendation, you look again

:22:52. > :22:56.at the criminal records issue. It can be a problem, particularly with

:22:57. > :22:59.something like a suspended sentence, whereas even though someone is

:23:00. > :23:02.trying to turn their lives around and did it when they were quite

:23:03. > :23:04.young, they are not hard and colonels in other words, still on

:23:05. > :23:13.the record when they're trying to get a job. Is 22 quite young? When

:23:14. > :23:18.you are in your late 20s and 30s a new outline for a job, that is still

:23:19. > :23:24.a new record. Let's bring in Steve Gillon, what you make of these kind

:23:25. > :23:27.of recommendations? I have a great deal of respect for the just select

:23:28. > :23:32.committee but I think they have got this one totally wrong to suggest

:23:33. > :23:36.anyone over the age of 25 who is not an adult and is not capable of

:23:37. > :23:41.making choices in their lives for me is totally wrong. What I believe is

:23:42. > :23:46.we are forgetting about the victims of crime. They are the ones

:23:47. > :23:52.important in the first. I think we have become a society that make

:23:53. > :23:57.excuses for people 's behaviour. This sort of scientific staff has

:23:58. > :24:08.been about for quite some time now. But I think we need to address the

:24:09. > :24:14.root causes of crime. I think it is wrong. So far as I understand it,

:24:15. > :24:16.having been a journalist for a number of years, nothing has really

:24:17. > :24:22.cut the reoffending rates particularly of this age group,

:24:23. > :24:24.would it not be worth a try? We have always said we are compassionate

:24:25. > :24:29.about mental health issues and so forth and people should be diverted

:24:30. > :24:33.away from prison. But the harsh reality is and I keep saying it

:24:34. > :24:37.everytime I come on TV, we haven't got enough resources. Where is the

:24:38. > :24:41.money coming for this? Where is the additional prison is coming for

:24:42. > :24:46.this? That is a fair point but just put that to one side, do you

:24:47. > :24:50.acknowledge that nothing else seems to have worked, in terms of cutting

:24:51. > :24:53.the reoffending rates of 18 to 25-year-olds, and therefore this

:24:54. > :24:59.might be worth a go? I do accept it is a problem, but for a Justice

:25:00. > :25:07.select committee to say that 25-year-olds are still young adults,

:25:08. > :25:12.I think it is derogatory to mainstream 18 to 25-year-olds. How

:25:13. > :25:15.do you respond to that, Bob Neill? I think he has not read the report

:25:16. > :25:19.properly, we are saying they are a distinct group. Of course they are

:25:20. > :25:22.adults and we're not saying they don't need to be punished, but

:25:23. > :25:26.precisely because we want to see fewer crimes, we are saying that

:25:27. > :25:31.rather blunt instrument approach we have at the moment is the wrong one.

:25:32. > :25:38.Therefore we should have a much more subtle system, and if it works in

:25:39. > :25:40.Germany, if the Netherlands and Scandinavia are able to work well

:25:41. > :25:43.within that system and it helps them do their jobs better, than I would

:25:44. > :25:47.have thought it is something everyone in the criminal justice

:25:48. > :25:53.system ought to be supporting. Fewer reoffending, fewer victims. Tell us

:25:54. > :25:56.what happened to you aged 18, and how what you have heard this morning

:25:57. > :26:04.would have changed things potentially? I committed a crime at

:26:05. > :26:07.the age of 17, by the time I was tried and taken to court was 18

:26:08. > :26:10.years old and treated as an adult. It was my first ever offensive at

:26:11. > :26:21.the time I didn't feel as though custody would have been the

:26:22. > :26:28.appropriate for myself. So I was eventually given a two-year

:26:29. > :26:32.custodial sentence. What was the offence? It was a drug offence, so

:26:33. > :26:35.it was a serious offence and I knew the consequences would be prison,

:26:36. > :26:40.but at the time, being my first offence, I would have thought they

:26:41. > :26:47.could have been other things in place if it did exist to support me

:26:48. > :26:59.better. Working with many young people, I see the transition a lot

:27:00. > :27:02.of young people have. Youth offending is really intensive and

:27:03. > :27:05.really supportive. The minute you turn 18 and you are put into adult

:27:06. > :27:09.probation, it is very different and the responsibility is down to

:27:10. > :27:12.yourself. For a lot of young people and with them reoffending, they

:27:13. > :27:18.can't cope without the intensive supervision they were getting, and a

:27:19. > :27:22.lot of the time that youth worker is the person who believed in them and

:27:23. > :27:28.was their glimmer of hope that the David Hearn 18, they pass into adult

:27:29. > :27:36.probation and treated as an adult. It was a two-year prison sentence,

:27:37. > :27:44.you came out after serving half. Have you reoffended? Know I haven't.

:27:45. > :27:48.So did present work? No, not at all, not for me. Luckily I had a really

:27:49. > :27:56.supportive family and home life. A lot of people in Casty don't have

:27:57. > :28:01.that. For me, I was lucky with the fact that I had a family and people

:28:02. > :28:04.with supporting me. A lot of young people don't have that so they will

:28:05. > :28:12.go on to reoffend because they don't have the support that I had. Bob

:28:13. > :28:15.Neill, interesting from Stanley and from Sullivan, if I ask an

:28:16. > :28:19.18-year-old boy 22-year-old should they have been punished in the way

:28:20. > :28:24.they were the crime they committed they will say no, aren't they? Yes,

:28:25. > :28:28.but you have to be a little bit more thoughtful than purely that

:28:29. > :28:35.reaction. In some cases, punishment has to be the answer but it is the

:28:36. > :28:38.type of punishment. I think Sullman was making the point there is a

:28:39. > :28:41.sudden cut-off point when you leave the young offenders into the adult

:28:42. > :28:47.system, or the follow-up goes and he is absolutely right. Very high

:28:48. > :28:50.percentages of the young offenders will have been in care, don't have

:28:51. > :28:53.the support of a family background and it is therefore not the

:28:54. > :28:59.follow-through. That is what we are saying has to be part of the system

:29:00. > :29:01.that is why it is important to achieve the reduction in

:29:02. > :29:10.reoffending. Also the work you do within prisons. There is an argument

:29:11. > :29:16.we need more resources in the prison system. I don't disagree. That is

:29:17. > :29:19.why these youngsters should not be in the adult prison system, they

:29:20. > :29:23.should be in those areas where there is a lot more rehabilitation, trying

:29:24. > :29:33.to get them back into jobs. What we are proposing, how they are treated

:29:34. > :29:35.within custody or looking at the weekend is to make sure the

:29:36. > :29:41.follow-up way we deal with the criminal records doesn't stop them

:29:42. > :29:45.getting back into work. Stanlake we heard saying it was crucial for him

:29:46. > :29:51.in turning his life around that he had a very supportive close family,

:29:52. > :29:54.what about you? It was very important for me. My family are

:29:55. > :29:59.supported but I come from a single parent homes of it is kind of hard.

:30:00. > :30:03.I am one of six. It is kind of hard for my mother to phone in time to be

:30:04. > :30:12.working in to look after all of her children so it is hard. It is not

:30:13. > :30:18.how 18 to 25-year-olds should be punished, it is what is causing it.

:30:19. > :30:23.Sometimes there may not be an explanation, just that a 19-year-old

:30:24. > :30:27.made a bad choice that day. Then that person should be punished for

:30:28. > :30:32.that decision but others who led up to something, for me, I wanted to

:30:33. > :30:37.pay my rent arrears, that was it. Why didn't you get a part-time job?

:30:38. > :30:42.I had already been to custody so it is hard for me. I applied for jobs,

:30:43. > :30:47.I got turned down, struggling at uni and working. I know a lot of people

:30:48. > :30:56.that do it and it is very hard. But at least it is legal. Yes, true.

:30:57. > :31:03.The point there is that there is a bit of vicious circle. You get led

:31:04. > :31:08.back into the same way of reoffending. We need a cleverer

:31:09. > :31:13.approach to get them out of the vicious circle. Quick final thought?

:31:14. > :31:18.This is a landmark report today. The detail is really important. It's not

:31:19. > :31:21.about leniency, it's about making targeted interventions that

:31:22. > :31:27.recognise the distinct nature of the age group. To give you two brief

:31:28. > :31:30.examples. One would be the court process would be quicker, to suit

:31:31. > :31:35.victims, because they want to be dealt with quickly. It would suit

:31:36. > :31:40.young people because they have a shorter time between the offence and

:31:41. > :31:46.the consequence of the offence to make the connection clearly. We are

:31:47. > :31:51.worried about the Government's haphazard policy of mixing young

:31:52. > :31:54.adults with older adults which is creating universities of crime

:31:55. > :31:58.rather than a distinct institution to target this age group. Thank you

:31:59. > :32:01.very much all of you, we appreciate your time. Thank you for being so

:32:02. > :32:05.open as well. We had this statement from the

:32:06. > :32:31.Ministry of Justice: Six years after being diagnosed

:32:32. > :32:35.with terminal leukaemia, writer and broadcaster Clive James

:32:36. > :32:39.talks to us about dealing with his And a campaign to ensure the under

:32:40. > :32:46.30s aren't left behind when it comes We've brought together some of those

:32:47. > :32:50.involved and will be finding out Here's Julian in the BBC Newsroom

:32:51. > :32:59.with a summary of today's news. Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

:33:00. > :33:02.pounds for failing The communications regulator Ofcom

:33:03. > :33:08.found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

:33:09. > :33:11.rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

:33:12. > :33:16.the breaches and apologised. There's a call for sweeping changes

:33:17. > :33:21.to the way the criminal justice system deals with offenders

:33:22. > :33:23.aged between 18 and 25 because of the way

:33:24. > :33:26.their brains mature. MPs on the Justice Committee say

:33:27. > :33:29.they offend the most, but have the greatest

:33:30. > :33:32.potential to stop offending - at a time when their brains

:33:33. > :33:35.are still developing. The government says efforts have

:33:36. > :33:38.been made to divert young people from custody and it recognises

:33:39. > :33:41.the challenges with this age group. However, the Commons report says

:33:42. > :33:43.there's been a "lack Treating children with autism

:33:44. > :33:52.from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

:33:53. > :33:55.and sustain the improvement over six years, according to ground-breaking

:33:56. > :34:00.research The study published years, according to

:34:01. > :34:01.ground-breaking research. in the Lancet, is the first

:34:02. > :34:05.to identify a long-term effect on the condition

:34:06. > :34:07.after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

:34:08. > :34:09.on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions

:34:10. > :34:12.of communication and The President of the European

:34:13. > :34:16.Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

:34:17. > :34:19.to the French authorities. The party's former migration

:34:20. > :34:21.spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

:34:22. > :34:24.earlier this month - following an incident with another

:34:25. > :34:26.MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European

:34:27. > :34:29.parliament says the version of events given by both

:34:30. > :34:32.men "diverged substantially". The parliament's president

:34:33. > :34:35.Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

:34:36. > :35:09.and decide if any sanctions should The most high profile male

:35:10. > :35:14.footballer to come out as gay is former Aston Villa player Thomas

:35:15. > :35:20.Hitzlsperger but not until he retired. Liverpool are through to

:35:21. > :35:26.the next round after a win over Tottenham. Sturridge scored both

:35:27. > :35:32.goals, wins too for Hull and Newcastle. The feather weight boxing

:35:33. > :35:37.fight will take place in Las Vegas on 28th January. Frampton beat Santa

:35:38. > :35:42.Cruz in July and they'll go head-to-head again.

:35:43. > :35:46.Bradley Wiggins was give an friendly reception at the Olympic velodrome

:35:47. > :35:51.on his final track appearance on home soil before retirement.

:35:52. > :35:56.And before I go, one rugby line for you, England have recalled Tom Wood

:35:57. > :36:01.for up the and coming autumn internationals. He has 42 caps but

:36:02. > :36:04.is yet to feature under the head coach Eddie Jones.

:36:05. > :36:07.Let's get more now on the fine Ofcom has imposed on Vodafone

:36:08. > :36:09.more than ?4.5 million, a record amount for breaching

:36:10. > :36:14.Vodafone has admitted the breaches and apologised.

:36:15. > :36:16.Lindsey Fussell is the Consumer Group Director for Ofcom

:36:17. > :36:28.What did they do to merit this fine? A number of things went wrong with

:36:29. > :36:31.Vodafone. They charged thousands of customers for services they didn't

:36:32. > :36:35.receive for money they put on their phones and for which they didn't

:36:36. > :36:38.receive credit. They gave customers inaccurate bills and the complaints

:36:39. > :36:43.handling processes weren't up to scratch. That's why there's been

:36:44. > :36:48.this fine today. How did you find out what was going on, where did the

:36:49. > :36:52.tip-off come from? We noted that we were receiving a number of

:36:53. > :36:56.complaints about Vodafone's billing processes because they were in the

:36:57. > :37:01.process of migrating to a new IT system. That's when we started to

:37:02. > :37:05.investigate. Are Vodafone a one-off or are other

:37:06. > :37:09.Telecoms firms potentially breaching your rules, do you think? We want to

:37:10. > :37:13.be very clear today that we see the size of this fine, forgot just as a

:37:14. > :37:17.message to Vodafone but to all companies across the industry that

:37:18. > :37:20.every one of the customers expects and demands good quality service and

:37:21. > :37:24.that's what the companies need to deliver. Where they break the rules,

:37:25. > :37:29.we won't hesitate to act and impose further long fines when warranted.

:37:30. > :37:32.Vote fiend have reimbursed most of their customers, there are about 30

:37:33. > :37:38.they can't track down. What was the issue with the handling of

:37:39. > :37:41.complaints? I think we all know, as users of mobiles ourselves, how

:37:42. > :37:45.frustrating it can be when trying to get through to a company when

:37:46. > :37:50.there's a problem and they don't deal with the problem adequately. In

:37:51. > :37:52.this case Vodafone weren't recognising complaints were

:37:53. > :37:55.complaints, so they weren't treating them properly and they weren't

:37:56. > :38:00.escalating them. After eight weeks, customers have the right to go to an

:38:01. > :38:02.independent arbitration service but Vodafone weren't escalating

:38:03. > :38:04.complaints so Kist mayors weren't always made aware of that. Thank you

:38:05. > :38:16.very much. When I was growing up, Clive James

:38:17. > :38:21.was a huge star of television, bringing to us documentaries on what

:38:22. > :38:24.seemed like exotic places and TV programmes featuring daft reality

:38:25. > :38:28.shows from Japan, I seem to remember. He's also a prolific

:38:29. > :38:34.writer and continues to write despite being diagnosed with

:38:35. > :38:37.terminal leukaemia six years ago. He started to say his goodbyes, but

:38:38. > :38:40.he's still here, thank goodness. I went to see him at his home in

:38:41. > :38:55.Cambridge and he was in pretty good spirits. Hello, how are you? It's a

:38:56. > :39:04.long answer but good. I'm still here. It was New Year's Eve between

:39:05. > :39:09.20110 and 2011 and the predictions, projections wasn't too hot. I was

:39:10. > :39:16.told to practise saying goodbye. The Queen's farewell, you know. But it

:39:17. > :39:21.didn't work out that way. You did in 2014 say that you were

:39:22. > :39:25.saying goodbyes. I said it too often. I should have shut up. I more

:39:26. > :39:31.or less promised to go that winter because I was in bad shape that year

:39:32. > :39:38.but then it turned out that I wasn't due to go. The thing to do is not to

:39:39. > :39:41.make predictions, especially not with medical science with what it

:39:42. > :39:47.is, it's galloping forward all the time. My chief condition, which is a

:39:48. > :39:54.version of leukaemia called CLL, I don't quite know what that stands

:39:55. > :40:01.for, Clive's lousy lieu keep ya maybe, but it's meant to be fatal

:40:02. > :40:13.but can take its time -- Clive's lousy leukaemia. There is a drug

:40:14. > :40:19.with a wonderful name, Ibrutaniv. It sounds very strong but that's what

:40:20. > :40:22.is keeping you living? Yes. Sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his

:40:23. > :40:27.prime but it's keeping me going! There are other things wrong too,

:40:28. > :40:35.but nothing quite as wrong oz that too. Could be worse. I expected to

:40:36. > :40:40.be gone by now but I've learned to live and there's no point making

:40:41. > :40:45.predictions. The biggest decision is whether to go on doing what you are

:40:46. > :40:51.good at or just lie down. I'm also very good at lying down, there's

:40:52. > :40:55.never anyone more lazar than me, I could hit the couch and stay there

:40:56. > :40:59.but I don't want to, saying things is what I do. Are you in pain

:41:00. > :41:03.though? You see, there's the factor I've been leaving out of this

:41:04. > :41:07.conversation. No, I'm lucky. Things would be very different if I were in

:41:08. > :41:11.pain. If I was even uncomfortable, I wouldn't be able to concentrate and

:41:12. > :41:17.do all the writing and reading and viewing. That would be very

:41:18. > :41:22.different. So I've been lucky. I counted the whole thing as a stroke

:41:23. > :41:26.of luck. I've had a reasonably long life. I probably deserved to get

:41:27. > :41:33.caught. Someone that smoked like I did should have something wrong with

:41:34. > :41:38.him. So I don't complain. If it hurt, I would probably complain. I'm

:41:39. > :41:42.not sure how brave I would be. In terms of your career, how do you

:41:43. > :41:46.describe yourself? I'm at the peak of my career, no question of it, I'm

:41:47. > :41:50.a better writer now than I ever was. And here is the secret, I've got

:41:51. > :41:55.more to write about, I can write about life now. When the end is in

:41:56. > :42:01.sight you get a perspective on life you never had before. I was dumb,

:42:02. > :42:06.energetic and moving forward at the high speed of a thrown shoe. I

:42:07. > :42:12.wasn't reflective. I'm much more reflective now. What do you reflect

:42:13. > :42:16.on? Everything. What I did wrong as well as what I did right. I would be

:42:17. > :42:26.entrepreneur day shuts inviting you to ask me all the things I did

:42:27. > :42:33.wrong. There is a long list - trepidatious. I would give you a bad

:42:34. > :42:37.time. Some examples? Well, I was not a faithful husband. I should have

:42:38. > :42:46.been but I wasn't. I've apologised for it to the person who matters.

:42:47. > :42:51.But... I can't be proud of myself on that score. I try and be proud of

:42:52. > :42:55.the fact that I'm still married to the only person I ever did marry. I

:42:56. > :43:02.would like that to count for something. Has she forgiven you?

:43:03. > :43:10.Forgiveness is a big deal. But if I'm alive then I've been forgiven.

:43:11. > :43:16.We are surrounded by many books that you have written, including this

:43:17. > :43:19.which features your dear friend Pete Atkin with whom you have had a

:43:20. > :43:23.song-writing partnership for decades. Yes. You say this is the

:43:24. > :43:31.work that is closest to your heart but the work that is least known

:43:32. > :43:35.about? We have really suffered as a song-writing duo, suffered from I

:43:36. > :43:41.would say a lack of attention. Some would say lack of success. Let's

:43:42. > :43:46.change that now. I'm very proud of what we've done. It hasn't really

:43:47. > :43:49.been very well known and it's rather ironic that it might start altering

:43:50. > :43:55.from my angle at the very moment when I depart the earth. What is it

:43:56. > :44:00.you might enjoy about song writing compared to say writing poetry?

:44:01. > :44:08.Song-writing or lyric writing is writing poetly but it's in a much

:44:09. > :44:13.more compressed form -- poetry. It's simpler in the grammar but sometimes

:44:14. > :44:21.more complicated in the imagination. I enjoy everything about it. I've

:44:22. > :44:26.always wanted to do it. I still do. But it's a tough business. What's

:44:27. > :44:32.fascinating about this aspect, what's happening now, is that we are

:44:33. > :44:36.getting back into business on such a scale where all the records may come

:44:37. > :44:41.out again, I don't know, I have a feeling they might. If you want to

:44:42. > :44:45.hear Pete singing the songs, you can do it on YouTube. YouTube is

:44:46. > :44:56.changing everything. You can just dial them up. Song like Beware Of

:44:57. > :44:59.the Beautiful Stranger. It's the most beautiful song.

:45:00. > :45:03.# Get away from the beautiful stranger... #

:45:04. > :45:07.This is wonderful and it's all going to happen Starting tomorrow. And

:45:08. > :45:11.what am I doing? Falling off the twig, as we saw in Australia,

:45:12. > :45:16.perhaps not quite yet. Do you love television as much as you did? proof

:45:17. > :45:22.Very, very impatient to get home and read a book.

:45:23. > :45:26.I gave TV everything I had, but I was well aware that

:45:27. > :45:29.I was burning up time that I would never get back.

:45:30. > :45:32.And when the day came when I really couldn't drag myself

:45:33. > :45:35.to the office any more, I said, I will try to use this

:45:36. > :45:49.But it's quite hard to control your career.

:45:50. > :45:52.This year, you can vote for your man or woman of the year

:45:53. > :45:54.during the programme and there is a thrilling

:45:55. > :46:01.At the end of the evening, all these millions of pounds

:46:02. > :46:03.are accumulated into a sum of six figures.

:46:04. > :46:07.Then we guarantee that after our expenses have been deducted,

:46:08. > :46:11.one of those pounds will be given to charity.

:46:12. > :46:14.And the other will be returned to the lucky winner.

:46:15. > :46:18.So, why don't you love TV as much as you did?

:46:19. > :46:24.The thought of having to spend a couple of days making a TV

:46:25. > :46:32.When I was doing it, when I was all over the world,

:46:33. > :46:35.making TV programmes for years, the only way I maintained my sanity

:46:36. > :46:40.was to use my downtime, waiting in the car, the downtime.

:46:41. > :46:48.I learned to use that time to read a book or even write one.

:46:49. > :47:01.It paid quite well and it makes you very popular.

:47:02. > :47:04.Welcome, once again, to the BBC's first deregulated,

:47:05. > :47:07.lead-free, self-financing, fully-sponsored TV programme.

:47:08. > :47:09.For your protection, the entire show has been

:47:10. > :47:15.One of the reasons I still draw attention now at the age of 106,

:47:16. > :47:21.all right, 116, is that people remember some shows I did.

:47:22. > :47:24.I grew up watching you on television.

:47:25. > :47:36.Those eager local Egyptian collaborators were focusing

:47:37. > :47:38.their magnifying glasses, so to give the nipples

:47:39. > :47:42.of the upside-down contestants the full benefit of the desert sun.

:47:43. > :47:45.Your Clive James On Television programme really introduced

:47:46. > :47:49.us to utterly bizarre game show type...

:47:50. > :47:57.Was that the start of the reality TV programme?

:47:58. > :48:01.I ruined an entire television culture.

:48:02. > :48:04.Hungry catfish wait in the river for the contestants

:48:05. > :48:14.Those who drown are not allowed to go forward to the next stage.

:48:15. > :48:19.When I saw the first footage of Japanese game shows I should

:48:20. > :48:29.Within a couple of years, everybody was doing it.

:48:30. > :48:36.If anything, it became over spectacular.

:48:37. > :48:39.Tell me how you would like to be remembered.

:48:40. > :48:43.First of all, let's face reality here.

:48:44. > :48:52.First of all, one might not be remembered at all.

:48:53. > :48:54.Nothing vanishes more quickly than a media career.

:48:55. > :49:05.And if I am, it's because I wrote things.

:49:06. > :49:07.And I hope some of my poems will be remembered.

:49:08. > :49:11.No way of checking up on it of course, I'll be gone.

:49:12. > :49:15.But I certainly write my poems as if they might be remembered.

:49:16. > :49:18.What would you like people to say about you?

:49:19. > :49:20.I wouldn't like them to say that there was a man

:49:21. > :49:34.I would like them to say there was a man who learned

:49:35. > :49:47.in the James and the surely songs of the James and the Vatican is now.

:49:48. > :49:51.Coming up, giving mums and dads the skills to become super parents can

:49:52. > :49:54.dramatically improve their child's daughters, according to new

:49:55. > :49:59.research. We will be looking into what the report means after ten. If

:50:00. > :50:06.you have a child who is autistic, get in touch with your own thoughts.

:50:07. > :50:09.The Brexit vote in June was seismic - not least younger voters

:50:10. > :50:11.who cast their ballots overwhelmingly to stay in the EU.

:50:12. > :50:15.That's out of the ones who voted, which was said to be around two

:50:16. > :50:18.There's now a campaign to make sure that generation,

:50:19. > :50:21.with so much at stake, has a say in shaping

:50:22. > :50:24.It's called UnDivided, and it brings together Remain

:50:25. > :50:28.and Leave supporters from across the country.

:50:29. > :50:34.Let's introduce you to Joe Porter who was 20, a conservative, one of

:50:35. > :50:41.the youngest councillors in that country in fact. He voted on -- he

:50:42. > :50:45.worked on about Leave campaign in Staffordshire moorlands. Charlotte

:50:46. > :50:55.Gerarda who is 26, a campaigner at 38 degrees who voted remain. And

:50:56. > :51:00.Hafsa Dabiri, a TV and radio presenter, she is 17 so could not

:51:01. > :51:05.vote. Charlotte Kariba to tell us what 38 degrees is about. It is a

:51:06. > :51:09.campaign group. From your age group, what is a big deal for you when it

:51:10. > :51:14.comes to our pie minister going to renegotiate our exit from the

:51:15. > :51:17.European Union? Would like is to ensure the prime minister gets the

:51:18. > :51:23.best possible Brexit deal for young people across the country. Which is

:51:24. > :51:29.what? That is a massive question, what does it mean? I think it means

:51:30. > :51:34.looking into different areas and the only way we can do that is by

:51:35. > :51:38.listening to demand. We have no idea what they will be because there are

:51:39. > :51:41.such a range of opinions and that is what undivided is there to do.

:51:42. > :51:51.Gather those opinions. What would be your opinion, Hafsa? I am interested

:51:52. > :51:54.in education and travel and I want that to be the same post Brexit, but

:51:55. > :51:58.it is not about our personal opinions, it is about making sure

:51:59. > :52:02.young people's voices are heard. What would you say is a big deal,

:52:03. > :52:10.what are you worried optimistic about? I think this has presented an

:52:11. > :52:12.opportunity for young people to completely reshaped Britain. There

:52:13. > :52:16.is a lot on the table at the moment, there is not a clear plan to Brexit,

:52:17. > :52:19.it presents a opportunity of young people to talk about what matters

:52:20. > :52:25.most to them and start from the beginning. What matters most to you

:52:26. > :52:29.as a 26-year-old in Britain in 2016? I think commonly all three of us

:52:30. > :52:33.really care about the regional divisions, and about the inequality

:52:34. > :52:38.that exists within the country. We will lose a lot of EU funding,

:52:39. > :52:45.especially in areas of the country that the most poorest. In places

:52:46. > :52:50.where funding has been lost, it will be replaced. I agree with a lot of

:52:51. > :52:53.what Charlotte has just said, which is why I live in North

:52:54. > :53:00.Staffordshire, I grow up in Stoke Inn Trent. Part of the country like

:53:01. > :53:03.that need more regional funding, that support from government, and

:53:04. > :53:08.from businesses and young people. Young people need to have those

:53:09. > :53:12.opportunities to succeed in life. That is why all three of us have

:53:13. > :53:16.that as a priority, the fact that we are young and want the brightest

:53:17. > :53:19.possible future. A lot of that is about education and equality of

:53:20. > :53:26.opportunity. What has that got to do with Brexit? Because post Brexit, we

:53:27. > :53:32.have a unique opportunity to shape our own future. Changes on the

:53:33. > :53:35.horizon. It is very important that our generation is part of that

:53:36. > :53:43.change because we will live with the outcome the longest. I don't want to

:53:44. > :53:46.rerun the arguments but you voted leave, so you would have known it

:53:47. > :53:49.was a threat to the EU funding in which goes to regions like

:53:50. > :53:54.Staffordshire, north-east of England, in fact pretty much most

:53:55. > :54:01.regions of the UK. And you voted to leave, knowing that would happen? I

:54:02. > :54:05.did absolutely. And not knowing was and how replace that. That was my

:54:06. > :54:08.personal view at the time and I believe it was the best decision

:54:09. > :54:11.because I believed it would be in the interest of young people, but at

:54:12. > :54:14.the end of the day all three of our I united on that message of getting

:54:15. > :54:19.the best possible Brexit deal for young people. That is what brought

:54:20. > :54:25.us together and makes us unique out of the campaign is out there. Once

:54:26. > :54:30.you have crowd sourced the ideas and you get the top five of the top ten

:54:31. > :54:34.list of ideas, how do you make sure the politicians who make the

:54:35. > :54:39.decisions in this country take on board what you are saying? We are

:54:40. > :54:50.going to refine the top ten which will force the youth Brexit

:54:51. > :54:52.manifesto. We think it is a substantial significant number. We

:54:53. > :54:58.think at that point the reason they will be very interested to find the

:54:59. > :55:02.results of our crowd sourcing. And at that point we will take them to

:55:03. > :55:08.the Brexit negotiating table. And hopefully we will be listened to at

:55:09. > :55:13.that point. Hopefully. That is the big question, because everybody you

:55:14. > :55:16.ask has a different view, if they have a view, on the specifics of

:55:17. > :55:25.what a post Brexit Britain should look like. Ask 20 people, you get 20

:55:26. > :55:29.different views. It is whether it will give you a particular ear for

:55:30. > :55:33.what you want. I think through the refining of it it would make sense

:55:34. > :55:38.in the manifesto and because we have hopefully a representative 1 million

:55:39. > :55:45.people, a large demographic from 15, 13, sorry, to 30. There will be some

:55:46. > :55:51.weight held on this manifesto and you can't ignore it. Excited for it.

:55:52. > :55:54.If you had to find me some adjectives to describe how you're

:55:55. > :56:00.feeling about your future in Britain, post this referendum, what

:56:01. > :56:04.would you say? I am very optimistic, very passionate and very determined

:56:05. > :56:10.to get that brighter future for our generation and generations to come.

:56:11. > :56:16.Whilst we are shaping this, that is what our campaign is all about.

:56:17. > :56:20.Because of the very existence of our campaign I now have hoped to the

:56:21. > :56:25.future of our young people. Hope is the exact word I would use, because

:56:26. > :56:33.we are now progressing to something else to take the next step to better

:56:34. > :56:37.our futures. Thank you for your many messages about the interview with

:56:38. > :56:41.Clive James. Stuart tweets so good to see Clive James, love his writing

:56:42. > :56:45.and humour. Jane says always interesting and enjoyable to listen

:56:46. > :56:50.to. This one says Clive James is in the same racket as Alan Wicker,

:56:51. > :56:54.brilliant on TV, great writing and poetry. This tweet from Victoria,

:56:55. > :56:57.just watching Clive James on your program, love the fact that when

:56:58. > :57:03.making TV programmes he would read a book for sanity. Robert said Clive

:57:04. > :57:10.James just inspired me to get off the sofa. On Facebook, Elizabeth, a

:57:11. > :57:14.very clever and funny man, I wish the BBC would repeat his old shows.

:57:15. > :57:19.Helen on Facebook also saying that. Clive is a great guy, good luck

:57:20. > :57:27.Clive, you have given us great dealings over the years. Thank you.

:57:28. > :57:32.Thank you for your messages on the Justice committee, group of MPs

:57:33. > :57:37.suggesting that young offenders should be treated in a distinct way

:57:38. > :57:45.between 18 to 25 to make sure they don't reoffend. Angela says 22 is

:57:46. > :57:51.young. Often it is down to bad parenting, and make it tougher in

:57:52. > :57:54.young offenders institutions, says Raymond, and they may think twice

:57:55. > :57:59.about going back. Thank you for those of you want to get back, you

:58:00. > :58:02.are very welcome. You can e-mail, tweet, the usual community has to do

:58:03. > :58:07.it. Coming up after ten o'clock, Vodafone has been fined ?4.6 million

:58:08. > :58:12.by OFCOM for breaking the rules on handling customer complaints. We

:58:13. > :58:18.will bring you the details after ten o'clock. Also after ten, we will

:58:19. > :58:22.bring you the latest news and sport in just a moment or two. We will

:58:23. > :58:28.talk to the parents of autistic children about some pretty

:58:29. > :58:30.groundbreaking research into how parents communicate with their

:58:31. > :58:39.autistic children. It looks like early intervention is absolutely key

:58:40. > :58:43.to reducing the severity of autism. Now the weather, here's Carol. It

:58:44. > :58:49.has been quite a foggy start of the day across southern part of the UK.

:58:50. > :58:57.That is now starting to left. The Somerset will drag. Some sunny skies

:58:58. > :59:02.coming through but just the risk of one or two showers. Also some

:59:03. > :59:08.showery outbreaks sinking slowly southwards. There will be further

:59:09. > :59:10.showers coming across north-west Scotland on a blustery wind but in

:59:11. > :59:18.between all of that some sunny skies. A couple of degrees higher

:59:19. > :59:23.than we would expect at this stage in October. As we head onto the

:59:24. > :59:35.evening and overnight, a week where the front, ahead of its dense patchy

:59:36. > :59:38.fog forming. Still a brisk wind. So we have this band of rain across the

:59:39. > :59:42.outer Hebrides first thing in the morning. It could be heavy for a

:59:43. > :59:45.time. It will be windy so it will blow through quite quickly. The head

:59:46. > :59:50.of its parts of England Wales and Northern Ireland, we also have the

:59:51. > :59:54.odd shower. It will be the exception rather than the rule if you catch

:59:55. > :59:59.one. Again, bright skies, temperatures between 12 and 16

:00:00. > :00:03.Celsius. We could possibly hit 17. Then finally by Friday, more of the

:00:04. > :00:08.same. We are stuck in the system which is giving things fairly

:00:09. > :00:10.settled. Producing a little bit of rain but again temperatures above

:00:11. > :00:15.the seasonal norm. Hello, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:16. > :00:19.welcome to the programme. And after 10 this morning,

:00:20. > :00:21.mums and dads of autistic children can be trained in communication

:00:22. > :00:24.to reduce the severity of their child's disorder,

:00:25. > :00:26.new research shows. Also today, six years

:00:27. > :00:30.after being diagnosed with terminal leukaemia, writer and broadcaster

:00:31. > :00:33.Clive James has been talking to us about dealing with his illness

:00:34. > :00:43.and predicting the future. It could be worse and I expected to

:00:44. > :00:47.be gone by now. But I've learnt to live as if there is no point making

:00:48. > :00:51.predictions. The big decision you have to make is whether you will go

:00:52. > :00:53.on trying to do what you think you are good at or whether you just lie

:00:54. > :00:54.down. A ?4.6 million fine for poor

:00:55. > :00:57.customer service and misleading customers this morning,

:00:58. > :00:59.Vodafone has been hit with a record Vodafone has apologised,

:01:00. > :01:05.but what does this mean for customers and can we expect

:01:06. > :01:12.similar fines for other companies? Good Morning, here's

:01:13. > :01:14.Julian in the BBC Newsroom Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

:01:15. > :01:22.for failing customers in the UK. The communications regulator Ofcom

:01:23. > :01:25.found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

:01:26. > :01:29.rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

:01:30. > :01:45.the breaches and apologised. We want to be clear today that we

:01:46. > :01:49.see the size of the fine as, not just a message to Vodafone, but to

:01:50. > :01:52.all companies across the industry. Every one of the customers demand

:01:53. > :01:56.and expect good customer service. That's what the companies need to

:01:57. > :01:58.deliver. Where they break the rules, we won't hesitate to act and impose

:01:59. > :02:01.larger fines when it's warranted. There's a call for sweeping changes

:02:02. > :02:04.to the way the criminal justice system deals with offenders aged

:02:05. > :02:07.between 18 and 25 - because of the way

:02:08. > :02:09.their brains mature. MPs on the Justice Committee say

:02:10. > :02:12.they offend the most, but have the greatest potential

:02:13. > :02:14.to stop offending - at a time when their brains

:02:15. > :02:17.are still developing. The government says efforts have

:02:18. > :02:19.been made to divert young people from custody and it recognises

:02:20. > :02:22.the challenges with this age group. However, the Commons report says

:02:23. > :02:25.there's been a "lack of action" Sullman Amad was sent

:02:26. > :02:35.to prison when he was 18. The minute you turn 18 and you are

:02:36. > :02:38.put on to probation it's different and the responsibility is mainly

:02:39. > :02:43.down to yourself which for a lot of young people ends up with

:02:44. > :02:45.reoffending because they can't cope without the supervision they were

:02:46. > :02:49.getting at the youth offending service. A lot of the time the youth

:02:50. > :02:54.offending worker is the person that believes in them and gives them

:02:55. > :02:56.hope. At 18, they are passed to adult probation and treated as an

:02:57. > :02:57.adult. Treating children with autism

:02:58. > :03:00.from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

:03:01. > :03:02.and sustain the improvement over six years, according

:03:03. > :03:05.to ground-breaking research. The study published in the Lancet,

:03:06. > :03:09.is the first to identify a long-term effect on the condition

:03:10. > :03:12.after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

:03:13. > :03:16.on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions of

:03:17. > :03:21.communication and play activities. The President of the European

:03:22. > :03:23.Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

:03:24. > :03:28.to the French authorities. The party's former migration

:03:29. > :03:30.spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

:03:31. > :03:33.earlier this month - following an incident with another

:03:34. > :03:36.MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European parliament

:03:37. > :03:42.says the version of events given by both men "diverged

:03:43. > :03:45.substantially". The parliament's president

:03:46. > :03:48.Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

:03:49. > :03:51.and decide if any sanctions should The police commissioner in Calais

:03:52. > :03:58.says migrants have told him that fires at the so-called jungle camp

:03:59. > :04:01.overnight were started by activists. The police, who have begun

:04:02. > :04:03.demolishing the camp, Save the Children and Unicef say

:04:04. > :04:09.it's unacceptable to start clearance work when there are still children

:04:10. > :04:13.who haven't been accounted for. So far, it's estimated more

:04:14. > :04:15.than 4,000 refugees have been The transport secretary,

:04:16. > :04:22.Chris Grayling, is making the case for Heathrow's expansion

:04:23. > :04:26.during a visit to Two cabinet ministers have publicly

:04:27. > :04:29.criticised the plan, and Zac Goldsmith has quit as a Tory

:04:30. > :04:33.MP, triggering a by-election. During a visit to Newcastle Airport

:04:34. > :04:38.the Transport Secretary will insist the whole of the UK will benefit

:04:39. > :04:44.from a third runway at Heathrow. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:45. > :05:02.News, more at 10.30. Get in touch with us if you would

:05:03. > :05:07.like by using the usual methods. Time now for the sport with Jess.

:05:08. > :05:10.A survey has found that the majority of sports fans would be comfortable

:05:11. > :05:12.with their club signing a gay player.

:05:13. > :05:21.The online poll by Radio 5 Live, was answered by 4,000 people,

:05:22. > :05:24.and found that 82% of them wouldn't have an issue with it.

:05:25. > :05:26.The most high profile male footballer to come out in recent

:05:27. > :05:28.times is former Aston Villa player Thomas Hitzlsperger.

:05:29. > :05:31.He said his sexuality wasn't a problem in the dressing room,

:05:32. > :05:33.but he didn't reveal it until after he'd retired.

:05:34. > :05:36.There's only ever been one male player to come out

:05:37. > :05:43.His career suffered for it though, and he took his own life

:05:44. > :05:47.Daniel Sturridge adorns most of the national newspapers sports

:05:48. > :05:52.His two goals for Liverpool took them through to the quarter finals

:05:53. > :05:54.of the EFL Cup, in a 2-1 win over Tottenham.

:05:55. > :05:56.All of Sturridge's goals for Liverpool have come

:05:57. > :05:59.in the cup this season, and it took him less than 10 minutes

:06:00. > :06:05.He doubled their lead in the second half with that goal.

:06:06. > :06:09.And obligitory dance moves of course.

:06:10. > :06:13.Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho says living

:06:14. > :06:19.Mourinho has been staying in a hotel on his own and says

:06:20. > :06:21.it's difficult to go out without being followed

:06:22. > :06:26.His side face Manchester City tonight in the EFL Cup,

:06:27. > :06:37.and despite United's With England rugby union's lengthy injury list,

:06:38. > :06:49.People always expect the best. With the quality of Jose and Man United,

:06:50. > :06:53.they're Man United - that means a lot from my experience when a play.

:06:54. > :06:56.With England rugby union's lengthy injury list,

:06:57. > :06:59.head coach Eddie Jones has had to call in reinforcements ahead

:07:00. > :07:03.Northampton flanker Tom Wood returns to the side.

:07:04. > :07:07.He already has 42 caps to his name but is yet to feature under Jones.

:07:08. > :07:10.Also recalled is Gloucester's Jonny May.

:07:11. > :07:13.The squad will fly to Portugal on Sunday for a training camp,

:07:14. > :07:16.before playing Africa at Twickenham on 12th November.

:07:17. > :07:18.England have named an unchanged squad for next month's

:07:19. > :07:25.There's still no place for fast bowler James Anderson

:07:26. > :07:28.who is expected to miss the first couple of tests through injury.

:07:29. > :07:31.So Nottinghamshire's Jake Ball remains in the squad.

:07:32. > :07:39.Four spinners, including 39-year-old Gareth Batty,

:07:40. > :07:47.will also tour India in their spin friendly conditions.

:07:48. > :07:50.Despite controversy surrounding his use of allergy medication,

:07:51. > :07:52.Sir Bradley Wiggins was given a friendly reception

:07:53. > :07:54.at the Olympic Velodrome on his final track appearance

:07:55. > :07:58.He's competing alongside Mark Cavendish.

:07:59. > :08:00.The duo are world champions in the madison event and currently

:08:01. > :08:07.The six day competition is made up of several different races including

:08:08. > :08:16.An experimental new therapy for autism, which helps parents

:08:17. > :08:18.communicate with their children, has had record success

:08:19. > :08:20.in reducing the severity of autism in children.

:08:21. > :08:23.As part of a trial, parents were invited to watch videos

:08:24. > :08:25.of themselves interacting with their children and were given

:08:26. > :08:30.This helped to make them more aware of their child's unique and unusual

:08:31. > :08:32.patterns of communication, so they could then respond

:08:33. > :08:38.The researchers found that that children who had had this support

:08:39. > :08:44.had less severe overall symptoms six years after the therapy ended.

:08:45. > :08:48.Professor Jonathan Green from the University of Manchester

:08:49. > :08:51.led this study; Mel Hunter who has a five-year-old son

:08:52. > :08:57.Carrie Grant who has has two daughters with autism;

:08:58. > :09:03.and Ssrah Lambert is head of policy at the National Autistic Society.

:09:04. > :09:10.Welcome to all of my guests. We'll start with you, Professor Green,

:09:11. > :09:14.tell us in more detail what you did? We know, all of us, that the

:09:15. > :09:19.interaction between parents and whiled is a foundation for social

:09:20. > :09:22.development in all children. It's particularly challenging for

:09:23. > :09:26.children who have autism because their communitication to parents are

:09:27. > :09:35.particularly difficult to understand. What we have done is we

:09:36. > :09:38.want to equip parents with the skills to understand their own

:09:39. > :09:46.particular child's communication and respond to it in a more fine-tuned

:09:47. > :09:50.and appropriate way. The theory is, if the parents do that, and we don't

:09:51. > :09:54.work directly with the children at all, just the parents, but if the

:09:55. > :09:57.parents are able to do that, that will have a knock-on effect to the

:09:58. > :10:02.child encouraging their communication, the amount of it and

:10:03. > :10:07.the development of it socially. And then that will have a further

:10:08. > :10:12.knock-on effect to their performance or interactions outside the family

:10:13. > :10:16.setting with other people. So there's a generalisation cascade, if

:10:17. > :10:21.you like. Can you give us an example of something that a parent has been

:10:22. > :10:24.taught to pick up on as a result of their interactions with their child

:10:25. > :10:30.being videoed an then therapists pointing out, look, did you see your

:10:31. > :10:36.child do X, Y, Z? Yes, so the thing to make clear is, this is really an

:10:37. > :10:40.experiment for the parent. We don't teach the parent as such, we put the

:10:41. > :10:43.parent in a situation watching themselves with the child to observe

:10:44. > :10:53.things so it's self-directed learning from the parent. Of course

:10:54. > :10:57.helped by the therapist. It will be things like subtle shifts in the

:10:58. > :11:00.facial expression or partial movements of the hands or a toy

:11:01. > :11:04.which would be a show to the parent, something like this that wouldn't be

:11:05. > :11:07.a clear communication but would have an intent of the same kind and the

:11:08. > :11:12.parents then get used to picking that thing up for their own child,

:11:13. > :11:17.learning how their child does this. What's different here is that a lot

:11:18. > :11:21.of parents go through the early years perplexed by what is happening

:11:22. > :11:25.with their child and feeling deskilled as parents themselves not

:11:26. > :11:30.being able the use their natural ability. What we are really hoping

:11:31. > :11:33.is that we can encourage them to reskill or get empowered, as it

:11:34. > :11:36.were, to really understand their child and make them feel much more

:11:37. > :11:41.confident that they have strategies that will work. What do you think,

:11:42. > :11:44.Carrie? I think it sounds fantastic. Anything that empowers parents is a

:11:45. > :11:48.really good thing. We are the bridges for our children, we join up

:11:49. > :11:52.the autistic world to the typical world and we are working in both

:11:53. > :11:56.directions. One of the things that is clear from what Jonathan's just

:11:57. > :11:59.said, for my children, they are high-functioning so the children at

:12:00. > :12:04.two and three would look me in the eye and talk to me, so we've got to

:12:05. > :12:06.be, how do you read the high functioning ends because that's

:12:07. > :12:10.easier to read when you are looking for a facial expression, you know,

:12:11. > :12:15.maybe the subtleties in a high-functioning end are going to be

:12:16. > :12:18.a lot more acute. So for us as parents, learning to read our

:12:19. > :12:24.children from a young age, not just how they are speaking, but from the

:12:25. > :12:27.body language expression, every sense of it, the sensory world,

:12:28. > :12:31.being able to feed things back to them, you have to learn that super

:12:32. > :12:38.quick. With the report, it's for children between the ages of two and

:12:39. > :12:42.four, most of our kids don't get diagnosed until that age so to get

:12:43. > :12:47.early intervention is going to be challenging. Fair point? Yes,

:12:48. > :12:51.totally. If the diagnosis is not early enough generally in this

:12:52. > :12:54.country although it's gradually getting earlier as people get more

:12:55. > :13:01.skilled and experienced in the arena. One point to make is that our

:13:02. > :13:07.study did look at children with more severe end autism and so our results

:13:08. > :13:10.apply to those children. As Carrie says, the milder end, maybe

:13:11. > :13:15.different kind of challenges, we can't be sure that exactly the same

:13:16. > :13:19.tecniques would work, I suspect though that they will because it's

:13:20. > :13:26.the same process really. What do you think? I think it's great to see the

:13:27. > :13:32.longevity of the study and the improvements. My son is only five so

:13:33. > :13:36.we are at the other end of things where we are still learning how to

:13:37. > :13:41.understand his world and what he needs and who is trying to commune

:13:42. > :13:49.-- and he is trying to communicate to us. We are taking part in a

:13:50. > :13:54.scheme run by the National Autistic Society, trying to find a way into

:13:55. > :13:57.the children's world. That's really helped us and how we approach things

:13:58. > :14:03.with our son. It's helped how we play with him and it's helped us

:14:04. > :14:06.communicate with him. Can you give us some practical examples of how

:14:07. > :14:11.things have changed after the programme? My son Sam struggles with

:14:12. > :14:17.his communication. He does talk but not at the same level as his peers

:14:18. > :14:22.and he does understand though not at the same level. The course taught us

:14:23. > :14:28.how to slow things down, to give him time to talk, to process what we

:14:29. > :14:33.were saying, delaying asking again for maybe 15 seconds and to give him

:14:34. > :14:38.time for our words to make sense to him, so slowing things down. Then

:14:39. > :14:46.understanding his nonverbal language as well and what he wants. In many

:14:47. > :14:49.ways, being led by him but also altering his behaviour slightly so

:14:50. > :14:55.he can communicate with his peers better and things like that.

:14:56. > :15:02.Do you feel confident now in the way you communicate with your son? Is it

:15:03. > :15:07.an ongoing thing? It is ongoing. I think parents clearly have a key

:15:08. > :15:11.role and when you get a diagnosis of autism it's a bombshell. How old was

:15:12. > :15:16.he when he got the diagnosis? Just four. It's difficult. You are not

:15:17. > :15:20.given an awful lot of support and it's like going into a dark room

:15:21. > :15:22.feeling your way around. What works for one child won't work for another

:15:23. > :15:28.so you are absolutely trying to understand it from your own child's

:15:29. > :15:33.point of view. But a lot of reading around the automobile sect, doing a

:15:34. > :15:40.course like the National Autistic Society programme was really, really

:15:41. > :15:46.helpful. I also met other parents on the course who make your situation

:15:47. > :15:51.less isolating, we share advice and experience, we laugh, we see the

:15:52. > :15:57.positives and all that helps as well and helps with our journey with our

:15:58. > :16:05.son because it's not all awful, there's an awful lot of good in it.

:16:06. > :16:15.I am going to read a couple of messages. Text from Helen, it is

:16:16. > :16:20.laughable, try and get your diagnosed at two. At 60 could not

:16:21. > :16:24.speak will interact with anyone when he was six and still I was told it

:16:25. > :16:30.was my parenting skills that would be looked at -- at the age of six.

:16:31. > :16:33.Try not to paint a perfect picture of what is and the services

:16:34. > :16:37.available to parents because it is just not true across-the-board. This

:16:38. > :16:41.one says research sounds promising but it took us nearly seven years to

:16:42. > :16:46.get the diagnosis from my eldest when he was nine. Even with that

:16:47. > :16:50.experience, I was told my youngest was probably autistic but we don't

:16:51. > :16:54.diagnosed before the age of five. I would love to know where kids are

:16:55. > :17:03.getting diagnosed at the age of two. Is it happening? It is. We regularly

:17:04. > :17:07.hear from parents having to fight and fight and fight to get their

:17:08. > :17:10.children's needs identified and then getting through that diagnosis, some

:17:11. > :17:16.research showed that the average waiting time the diagnosis was over

:17:17. > :17:20.three years. So actually we're thinking these children will not get

:17:21. > :17:25.supported at two. People having to wait for much longer than that to

:17:26. > :17:29.get the diagnosis. There are things the government could be doing to

:17:30. > :17:33.encourage local authorities and the NHS to do much better around this.

:17:34. > :17:45.One of the big challenges we find is that they are not measured, and the

:17:46. > :17:48.local NHS don't routinely collect data, so there is not the incentives

:17:49. > :17:54.in the system to make sure that diagnosis is helping at this early

:17:55. > :17:56.stage. Michelle goes on to say I struggle so badly with mild is

:17:57. > :18:01.partly because I was told my son was fine and I was just a bad mum. That

:18:02. > :18:08.is extraordinarily shocking. Do you know what, this is so, the parents

:18:09. > :18:18.to be told this. I don't think this report is saying parents you have

:18:19. > :18:21.not done very well, so that either parenting we are talking about could

:18:22. > :18:25.be really helpful across all parenting. I know for my 15-year-old

:18:26. > :18:28.when she was a baby, she never hugged me, and people said is there

:18:29. > :18:31.a problem with the attachment, and in the end I put my hand on the

:18:32. > :18:34.pillow, and she seemed to love talking to my hand, so I thought I

:18:35. > :18:38.would just make a little character out of this and. Eventually she

:18:39. > :18:42.would lavish attention and affection on my hand, chat away and eventually

:18:43. > :18:52.we got from hand to talking face-to-face. I some how did that

:18:53. > :19:00.naturally. Parents are amazing. Mums and dads will find ways through. I

:19:01. > :19:03.think it is just encouraging. Don't let that stop you from putting

:19:04. > :19:10.interventions in while you are waiting. This isn't about parents

:19:11. > :19:15.being substandard, you are right. It is about real challenges of these

:19:16. > :19:22.children and how parents rise to those challenges. That is one of the

:19:23. > :19:26.most moving things, just watch ordinary parents picking up the

:19:27. > :19:32.challenge. I don't want to idealise it, this is not a miracle cure. This

:19:33. > :19:35.is hard work. But we have found in our research is that most parents,

:19:36. > :19:44.and this was one of the most heartening things, most parents

:19:45. > :19:52.across all ethnicities, every thing we have studied, the parents on the

:19:53. > :19:56.whole picked it up. When we started, there was a lot of scepticism about

:19:57. > :20:02.this, parents would not be able to do it. It is too complicated. A lot

:20:03. > :20:05.of therapists say that. Only therapists can do this. Were you

:20:06. > :20:09.would have to be a highly educated parent or whatever it is. We just

:20:10. > :20:14.showed it is not the case. Parenting skill is a very intuitive thing as

:20:15. > :20:23.we know. It was lovely to see across all social groups that parents could

:20:24. > :20:28.pick this up. It is, enhancing, super parenting is often the way I

:20:29. > :20:31.talk to my parents about, this is enhanced skills we're talking about.

:20:32. > :20:37.I don't want to do therapists out of a job. Yes, let's! Let's use the

:20:38. > :20:43.assets we have sitting right there. Fair enough, I get your point. Would

:20:44. > :20:46.it be naive of me to suggest, though, Professor Green, that you

:20:47. > :20:48.could get somebody to video you with your autistic child and watch it

:20:49. > :20:58.back and potentially see though subtle things you might miss in the

:20:59. > :21:00.everyday help of family life? It is an interesting one. Actually what

:21:01. > :21:06.happens between the therapist and the parent is quite subtle. It isn't

:21:07. > :21:10.a question of watching yourself and going from there. The therapist

:21:11. > :21:14.scaffolding and structuring support is important to this and the

:21:15. > :21:19.therapist's knowledge and guidance, but we are looking to see whether we

:21:20. > :21:22.could make this a bit simpler. For instance, have some online

:21:23. > :21:25.application or something or some sort of training parents could

:21:26. > :21:30.access that would as it were coached them online to do this. Now this is

:21:31. > :21:37.a new development. Religious thinking about how to do this, and

:21:38. > :21:42.would allow how it would work but this is the sort of thing we're

:21:43. > :21:46.thinking using modern technology. As part of the programme I did, within

:21:47. > :21:50.the NHS, there were three occasions when we were videoed in our own

:21:51. > :21:54.home, playing and collecting. Then it was shown back to the group.

:21:55. > :22:00.Comments were made from how things could be improved. Obviously there

:22:01. > :22:07.were subtleties and the course leaders were able to guide us

:22:08. > :22:13.through that, but also talking over your child, speaking to quickly,

:22:14. > :22:18.using very complicated instructions, it was quite easy to see key areas

:22:19. > :22:23.where you could make a simple changes. This question from Isabel,

:22:24. > :22:30.please ask the professor can you help using similar methods- shunning

:22:31. > :22:32.autistic parents communicate with their children? She doesn't say

:22:33. > :22:39.whether they are autistic or non-autistic, the children? A very

:22:40. > :22:44.interesting question. We know autism occurs in families more often by

:22:45. > :22:47.chance, it is a genetically determined disorder to a fairly

:22:48. > :22:53.large degree, which means that some of the parents in our study did have

:22:54. > :22:56.mild forms of autism themselves. So we are used that as clinicians,

:22:57. > :23:01.working with parents who do have that condition situation, and we do

:23:02. > :23:08.have two modify the intervention to help them with it because it is not

:23:09. > :23:11.quite the same. So the question is not a simple to answer but what I

:23:12. > :23:18.can say is it is possible to modify what they do. It means we can help

:23:19. > :23:23.individuals with autism to communicate better but we have not

:23:24. > :23:31.measured how well we can do that. A final thought from you, Sarah, on

:23:32. > :23:34.this research and the outcomes. It seems like really promising

:23:35. > :23:38.research. One of the concerns we have is how many therapists or

:23:39. > :23:42.professionals there would be available to deliver it. We know on

:23:43. > :23:45.the ground that once parents get a diagnosis, they go to try to get

:23:46. > :23:51.additional support and it is just not there. There is a real need to

:23:52. > :23:54.look at support the parents and children and adults on the spectrum

:23:55. > :23:57.to make sure they can actually access the support and it can

:23:58. > :24:14.actually help them. What do you say to a mum or dad who

:24:15. > :24:16.may be watching now who may be feeling bewildered and confused and

:24:17. > :24:19.not confident about trying to bring up an autistic child as well as they

:24:20. > :24:22.could? I think it is a struggle and I think it takes a fuel year to

:24:23. > :24:24.acclimatise yourself to it. Gathering with other parents is

:24:25. > :24:27.really helpful, because then you realise we are going through similar

:24:28. > :24:29.things and we all have to learn this kind of super parenting together. I

:24:30. > :24:37.absolutely agree, that other parents can really help you through. In my

:24:38. > :24:41.case, finding the early bird course, and I was given a leaflet about when

:24:42. > :24:45.my son was diagnosed, that was key for me. I would urge parents to look

:24:46. > :24:53.at something like that. It really helps. Thank you very much. If you

:24:54. > :24:55.have your own experience, get in touch, as you have been doing.

:24:56. > :25:04.Six years after being diagnosed with terminal leukaemia, writer and

:25:05. > :25:05.broadcaster Clive James talks to us about dealing with his dollars and

:25:06. > :25:09.predicting the future. Let's get more now on the fine Ofcom

:25:10. > :25:12.has imposed on Vodafone - more than four-and-a-half millions

:25:13. > :25:14.pounds - for breaching It is one of the highest fines ever

:25:15. > :25:18.handed to a phone company - Vodafone has admitted

:25:19. > :25:20.the breaches and apologised. Here's Lindsey Fussel for Ofcom,

:25:21. > :25:22.who said this fine should be seen as a warning

:25:23. > :25:30.by other phone companies. We want to be very clear today that

:25:31. > :25:34.we see the size of this fine not just as a message to Vodafone but

:25:35. > :25:36.all companies right across the industry. That every of their

:25:37. > :25:41.customers expect and the answer really good quality customer service

:25:42. > :25:46.and that is what these companies need to deliver. Where they break

:25:47. > :25:50.the rules we will not hesitate to impose large fines when warranted.

:25:51. > :25:53.Vodafone have reimbursed most of their customers, about 30 they

:25:54. > :25:58.cannot track down. That was the issue with the handling of

:25:59. > :26:01.complaints? We all know as users of mobile phones services ourselves how

:26:02. > :26:04.frustrating it can be when you're trying to get to the company when

:26:05. > :26:08.there's a problem and they don't seem to be dealing with that problem

:26:09. > :26:11.adequately. In this case, Vodafone weren't recognising in all cases

:26:12. > :26:15.that complaints were complaints so they weren't treating them properly

:26:16. > :26:19.and they were not escalating them. After eight weeks, customers have

:26:20. > :26:22.the right to go to an independent arbitration service but Vodafone

:26:23. > :26:23.went escalating complaints customers weren't always being made aware of

:26:24. > :26:26.that. Matthew Howett is a telecoms analyst

:26:27. > :26:36.at the research company, Ovum. Hello, Matthew. It is a big deal,

:26:37. > :26:41.this. A huge fine. ?4.6 million probably one of the biggest finds

:26:42. > :26:44.that Ofcom has levied. It follows an 18 month investigation into the

:26:45. > :26:47.complaints that were directed towards Vodafone and problems around

:26:48. > :26:56.their pay-as-you-go customers and it reflects the severity. Let's talk

:26:57. > :26:59.about the problem with the pay-as-you-go customers. Quite

:27:00. > :27:04.extraordinary. People were topping up their credit but it wasn't being

:27:05. > :27:08.accredited to their account. So they were paying for no service

:27:09. > :27:11.effectively. Something like 10,000 customers were affected by this

:27:12. > :27:15.where they thought they had credit but they didn't. It stems from the

:27:16. > :27:18.fact Vodafone was trying to migrate those customers from its only is he

:27:19. > :27:21.billing systems, had something like seven of those, trying to bring them

:27:22. > :27:25.into a new modern platform that should have meant better things for

:27:26. > :27:30.consumers, but we know these things are often difficult and complex to

:27:31. > :27:33.implement and Vodafone tripped up by trying to improve things. In terms

:27:34. > :27:37.of the problem with breaching the code of conduct when it comes to

:27:38. > :27:40.handling complaints, the issue was that some call handlers had not been

:27:41. > :27:48.trained well enough to appreciate what a complaint actually was. This

:27:49. > :27:51.is right. It snowballed for Vodafone because they had not only customers

:27:52. > :27:55.who could not use the credit but they could not complain effectively

:27:56. > :28:00.and that is what has caught Ofcom's attention. Not the first time Ofcom

:28:01. > :28:08.has investigated this type of complaint. They find EE and TalkTalk

:28:09. > :28:13.and fiscally about five years ago. We know that Ofcom has a watchful

:28:14. > :28:17.eye on this process. And this kind of fine, the size of fine, it is a

:28:18. > :28:24.warning to the phone companies to get their act together, isn't it? It

:28:25. > :28:26.is. Ofcom revised its own complaints and fining processors last year.

:28:27. > :28:32.While it didn't revolutionise what they can do, it certainly suggested

:28:33. > :28:36.they are much more interested in trying to incentivise companies to

:28:37. > :28:42.improve and to avoid the fines. This can be seen in some ways is trying

:28:43. > :28:49.to act as a deterrent to other operators. Thank you, Matthew. For

:28:50. > :28:52.those asking whether fined goes, it goes to the Treasury.

:28:53. > :28:55.Over the past two weeks we've been bringing you news of the battle

:28:56. > :28:59.to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from the terror group Islamic State.

:29:00. > :29:01.The main Iraqi government and Kurdish forces are still some

:29:02. > :29:03.distance from their target destination, but a group of special

:29:04. > :29:06.forces advancing from the east are now only three miles

:29:07. > :29:10.Ayman Oghanna is a video journalist embedded with Iraqi Special Forces

:29:11. > :29:43.Its foe in the morning, and our unit are Gordon division is getting ready

:29:44. > :29:48.to begin their part in the offensive to take the city of Mosul back from

:29:49. > :29:51.the Islamic State. To clear the way, the first vehicle is another heavy

:29:52. > :29:56.vehicles, armoured bulldozers and tanks. Following behind our three

:29:57. > :30:01.columns of armoured Humvees, who are going to reach the centre of these

:30:02. > :30:05.villages and clear the roots of his horses en route to Mosul.

:30:06. > :30:08.We are just at the gates of the target village

:30:09. > :30:16.when we receive a lot more fire from examining state and

:30:17. > :30:22.We've been supported by a few air strikes and

:30:23. > :30:26.now we are spreading out and getting ready to push in, spilling into two

:30:27. > :30:30.flanks to try and take control of the village.

:30:31. > :30:32.Despite this being the first time that they have seen

:30:33. > :30:41.whole thing kind of has an air of routine and familiarity to it.

:30:42. > :30:44.We have entered the centre of the village.

:30:45. > :30:48.As you can hear, there is still gunfire and fighting going on.

:30:49. > :31:09.Civilians are coming out to greet the soldiers as they are coming in.

:31:10. > :31:12.I wish I could tell you the name of the village.

:31:13. > :31:15.I can't, because none of the soldiers or officers

:31:16. > :31:21.I could give you the GPS coordinates, but that is about it.

:31:22. > :31:24.It just goes to show how removed this area was from the central

:31:25. > :31:27.Baghdad Government and how IS was able to take advantage of the

:31:28. > :32:06.marginalisation felt in these small, rural areas.

:32:07. > :32:08.How much homophobia is there among football fans?

:32:09. > :32:12.Not much, according to a new survey - we'll be looking into the issue.

:32:13. > :32:21.More on the French authority's efforts to demolish the jungle in

:32:22. > :32:43.Calais. Good Morning, here's

:32:44. > :32:45.Julian in the BBC Newsroom Vodafone is being fined ?4.6 million

:32:46. > :32:50.for failing customers in the UK. The communications regulator Ofcom

:32:51. > :32:52.found "serious and sustained breaches of consumer protection

:32:53. > :32:54.rules" by the company. Vodafone has admitted

:32:55. > :33:10.the breaches and apologised. Treating children with autism

:33:11. > :33:15.from two can significantly reduce the severity of their symptoms

:33:16. > :33:19.and sustain the improvement over six years, according

:33:20. > :33:23.to ground-breaking research. The study published in the Lancet,

:33:24. > :33:26.is the first to identify a long-term effect on the condition

:33:27. > :33:29.after an early intervention. In the trial, parents took

:33:30. > :33:32.on the role of therapists, leading daily sessions of

:33:33. > :33:35.communication and play activities. The President of the European

:33:36. > :33:39.Parliament has referred an altercation between two Ukip MEPs

:33:40. > :33:42.to the French authorities. The party's former migration

:33:43. > :33:46.spokesman Steven Woolfe was treated in hospital for several days

:33:47. > :33:48.earlier this month - following an incident with another

:33:49. > :33:51.MEP Mike Hookem. A report by the European parliament

:33:52. > :33:59.says the version of events given by both men "diverged

:34:00. > :34:01.substantially". The parliament's president

:34:02. > :34:05.Martin Schulz says French authorities will now investigate -

:34:06. > :34:08.and decide if any sanctions should That's a summary of the latest BBC

:34:09. > :34:38.News, more at 10.30. A survey has found that the majority

:34:39. > :34:42.of sports fans would be comfortable with their club signing

:34:43. > :34:45.a gay player. The online poll by Radio 5 Live,

:34:46. > :34:48.was answered by 4,000 people, and found that 82% of them wouldn't

:34:49. > :34:50.have an issue with it. The most high profile male

:34:51. > :34:53.footballer to come out in recent times is former Aston Villa player

:34:54. > :34:55.Thomas Hitzlsperger. He said his sexuality wasn't

:34:56. > :34:58.a problem in the dressing room, but he didn't reveal it

:34:59. > :35:08.until after he'd retired. Carl fromp tonne's rematch against

:35:09. > :35:18.Leo Santa Cruz will take place on 28th January in Las Vegas. . Despite

:35:19. > :35:21.controversy, Bradley Wiggins was given a friendly reception at the

:35:22. > :35:26.velodrome on his final track appearance. That's all the sport for

:35:27. > :35:43.now. More across the day on the BBC News Channel.

:35:44. > :35:46.Large number of makeshift shelters in the Calais 'Jungle' migrant

:35:47. > :35:48.camp have been burned to the ground overnight.

:35:49. > :35:51.It's thought the fires were the work of people

:35:52. > :35:53.who want to continue living in the camp, as a final

:35:54. > :35:56.The French authorities have started demolishing the jungle

:35:57. > :35:58.and are moving migrants to refugee centres across France.

:35:59. > :36:01.Let's get the latest from the camp in Calais

:36:02. > :36:04.with our correspondent Simon Jones, who's been there all week.

:36:05. > :36:11.This is not how the demolition was supposed to proceed. This used to be

:36:12. > :36:15.a bustling street. The shops and restaurants were declared illegal by

:36:16. > :36:19.the government here and had to shut down, but now they're completely

:36:20. > :36:25.gone in an unattended way. Let's just go over here to see there's a

:36:26. > :36:31.huge amount of debris and ash. There were fires raging all around here

:36:32. > :36:37.last night, a busy night for the Fire Service. Shops and restaurants

:36:38. > :36:41.had been here. We have been speaking to migrants, 17 in a shelter, and

:36:42. > :36:45.the fire spread to where they were sleeping and we saw their burning

:36:46. > :36:50.beds. You can see some black smoke going up there and it looks like

:36:51. > :36:55.another fire's broken out. That smoke looks pretty toxic. In the

:36:56. > :36:58.past few minutes as well we have seen smoke beside it. There are

:36:59. > :37:03.probably about four fires raging in the back ground. At the moment, it's

:37:04. > :37:06.unclear who's starting the fires because initially it had been

:37:07. > :37:11.thought these were migrants really saying well, if you are forcing us

:37:12. > :37:15.out, you are not going to bring bulldozers in and take down the

:37:16. > :37:20.shelters, we are going to do it for you. Then I spoke to the Calais

:37:21. > :37:24.chief of police earlier and he told me the migrants said they thought it

:37:25. > :37:28.was done by activists, for example why would you set fire to a shelter

:37:29. > :37:33.when you know there are 17 people in there. He told me he's investigating

:37:34. > :37:38.that. Take a look down there and you can see some of the debris which has

:37:39. > :37:42.plastic that's been burnt so there are some nasty fumes here. People

:37:43. > :37:45.have a sense of disbelief. They weren't expecting this to happen. A

:37:46. > :37:49.lots of people knowing they have to go. If we move the camera around, we

:37:50. > :37:53.have a woman and her child walking through the mud here. These are the

:37:54. > :37:58.type of people that they say must leave the jungle because this is no

:37:59. > :38:02.fit place for anyone to live. Now not just the mud, dirt and debris,

:38:03. > :38:07.but smoke and buildings that have been destroyed. We are told so far

:38:08. > :38:12.that the authorities have managed to move around 4,000 migrants. Now,

:38:13. > :38:15.those are largely adults, 3,000 who've been taken away on buses but

:38:16. > :38:19.we are also told around 800 children have been put into safe containers,

:38:20. > :38:22.but there's concern there are still children around and what will they

:38:23. > :38:29.make of all of this? Thank you very much.

:38:30. > :38:32.Just last week the boss of the Football Association said

:38:33. > :38:35.he was 'personally ashamed' that no professional gay football players

:38:36. > :38:51.There are no openly gay players in the top leagues. Last week, the boss

:38:52. > :38:54.of the Football Association said he was ashamed no professional

:38:55. > :38:56.footballers came out in this country.

:38:57. > :38:58.Speaking to MPs, Greg Clarke, said he could understand why players

:38:59. > :39:01.do not feel comfortable coming out - but is determined to change

:39:02. > :39:04.the culture of the game to make it more inclusive.

:39:05. > :39:08.I'm personally ashamed they don't feel safe to come out. Why don't

:39:09. > :39:11.they feel safe to come out? I think what we have in football is a cross

:39:12. > :39:29.section of society. There is a very, very small minority

:39:30. > :39:33.of people who hurl vile abuse at people who they perceive are

:39:34. > :39:41.different. But there'll always be a few who in football charge too high

:39:42. > :39:45.a price on people who're gay. What do you think would happen to a gay

:39:46. > :39:49.player who came out today? I think there would be significant abuse. Do

:39:50. > :39:57.you? I do. Because I don't think we have cracked the problem yet. And

:39:58. > :40:01.our job is to make sure that we identify targets and punish people

:40:02. > :40:04.who don't respect the safe inclusive nature of football.

:40:05. > :40:08.Well a survey today carried out for BBC five Live suggests that more

:40:09. > :40:10.than four out five football fans in Britain would be comfortable

:40:11. > :40:12.if their club signed a player who was gay.

:40:13. > :40:15.But eight percent would not want to watch their team,

:40:16. > :40:21.The study also found 61% of fans believe gay players should come out

:40:22. > :41:28.Let's speak to Lou Englefield who's in Powys, Mid Wales

:41:29. > :41:33.she's the Director of Pride Sports an organisation which

:41:34. > :41:40.campaigns on the behalf of LGBT sport fans.

:41:41. > :41:45.In Birmingham is Neil Beasley he came out to his team mates nine

:41:46. > :41:53.years ago and recently wrote a book about life as a gay fan and player.

:41:54. > :42:01.Lou, the vast majority of clubs would be fine but 8% wouldn't watch

:42:02. > :42:05.their team. What do you think? It doesn't surprise me there is a small

:42:06. > :42:10.minority in this country who express homophobic views, you know, that's

:42:11. > :42:15.true across-the-board and so that's not really surprising. I think the

:42:16. > :42:20.big issue here is the disparity between fans who say that they would

:42:21. > :42:29.be supportive of a gay player and yet the amount of casual homophobia

:42:30. > :42:34.we hear in the game. James Wilson in our Salford newsroom. You were

:42:35. > :42:38.recently subjected to some homophobia? We have been subjected

:42:39. > :42:43.to it twice from two different teams. It's still very prevalent

:42:44. > :42:48.within the game at grass roots and professional level and I would whole

:42:49. > :42:52.heartedly agree with Lou that the disparity between what fans say in a

:42:53. > :42:58.survey and what actually happens in public life is different. Was that

:42:59. > :43:02.the homophobia that you experienced from a team or from football fans,

:43:03. > :43:07.people watching? So from players within a team. I have to say it was

:43:08. > :43:11.a minority but players within a team that we've beaten at the weekend in

:43:12. > :43:18.a cup game, there have been some frustrations on the pitch and that

:43:19. > :43:23.spilled out into hope phobic slurs and language. How do you react? We

:43:24. > :43:26.have become fairly used to it, I've been playing for the club seven

:43:27. > :43:30.years and it's been going 20 years, it was a lot more extreme when the

:43:31. > :43:34.club first started when players from Manchester founded the club. Things

:43:35. > :43:39.are improving but it's still an issue we have to deal with on a

:43:40. > :43:44.weekly basis. I wonder Neil in terms of the results of the survey which

:43:45. > :43:48.soots most fans will be perfectly comfortable, happy if their club

:43:49. > :43:54.signed a gay player, do you think that is enough to at some point

:43:55. > :43:58.seeing a gay player come out professionally in the Premier League

:43:59. > :44:04.for example? I think we are still some way off seeing a player come

:44:05. > :44:08.out in the professional league. The results are encouraging and, as Lou

:44:09. > :44:13.said, you are always going to get a small minority against it. We are a

:44:14. > :44:17.long way off. The 8% that won't watch are not a problem, I'm sure

:44:18. > :44:21.the club wouldn't want them as fans anyway with that mindset but there

:44:22. > :44:24.would be a minority and they can shout the loudest, it spreads like a

:44:25. > :44:28.disease and before you know it, people are chanting the same things,

:44:29. > :44:34.people need to be aware of the effect their words have on people.

:44:35. > :44:40.We are still some way away from a professional coming out. Lou, again,

:44:41. > :44:45.part of this survey, 50% of fans have witnessed hope Phoebe ing

:44:46. > :44:50.abuse, I wonder what has to continue to work to change that --

:44:51. > :44:58.homophobic. We need education within the game. I think we need education

:44:59. > :45:04.from the very top, from the board rooms down to the managers and

:45:05. > :45:07.coaches in grass roots football. We need everybody the take

:45:08. > :45:11.responsibility for the language that's used by people. We need to

:45:12. > :45:15.give those people the skills to challenge it. People still don't

:45:16. > :45:18.understand what the homophobic and I think then people don't know how to

:45:19. > :45:23.challenge it. We need to equip people with the tools to be able to

:45:24. > :45:26.make those challenges in a positive and productive way. James, what do

:45:27. > :45:29.you think the difference is between football and rugby where we have

:45:30. > :45:31.seen professional rugby players come out but we have just not seen it in

:45:32. > :45:39.football? I'm not sure to be honest,

:45:40. > :45:45.footballers are much more popular sport, I suppose, globally. In the

:45:46. > :45:50.UK for me, football is the bread and butter of most working class

:45:51. > :45:53.environments, I suppose, and I do feel as though that has been

:45:54. > :45:58.slightly behind the curve, in terms of tackling homophobia. Although I

:45:59. > :46:03.think have a few stray players who play within our team, and attitudes

:46:04. > :46:07.are changing. I think you probably will take a professional footballer

:46:08. > :46:12.to really change things to come out. That is something we are really

:46:13. > :46:15.pushing for. I know it is a personal journey in terms of coming out but

:46:16. > :46:18.if someone did have the bravery to do it, it will just make it so much

:46:19. > :46:23.easier for everyone else involved in the sport. Niall, tell us what it

:46:24. > :46:27.was like when he came out your team-mates? I had built it up as an

:46:28. > :46:32.issue for a couple of weeks. I decided a couple of them did know

:46:33. > :46:42.and I decided it would be best just to come out. But nobody cared. It

:46:43. > :46:45.wasn't a big issue at all. I had been playing the some of these

:46:46. > :46:50.people for years and they were my friends but it is still a difficult

:46:51. > :46:54.thing. But they were really good. Unfortunately, other people have not

:46:55. > :46:59.had such good stories. As I put in my book, there was an incident with

:47:00. > :47:03.someone I know really well who was pretty much kicked out of their

:47:04. > :47:07.team, left out, abandoned. Everyone pretty much discern them and they

:47:08. > :47:12.had to leave the team soon as it was found out they were gay. Without

:47:13. > :47:15.naming names, when was that, what here, and whereabouts in the

:47:16. > :47:19.country? That was in the West Midlands here and we are going back

:47:20. > :47:23.about six or seven years. They were completely disowned by their team. I

:47:24. > :47:27.should imagine other people have stories like that. That is not the

:47:28. > :47:31.support you need. As Lou said, education is the key particularly at

:47:32. > :47:36.grassroots level but also the FA need to take a firm stand when

:47:37. > :47:42.incidents come to light. Do they not? I would have said the recent

:47:43. > :47:48.four-game ban for Andre Gray saying burn and died towards gay people was

:47:49. > :47:54.not harsh enough in my opinion. What would have been suitable? At least

:47:55. > :47:56.double that. Ziggy says this on e-mail, the fans who wouldn't even

:47:57. > :48:00.go and watch their teams play if they found that there was a gay

:48:01. > :48:04.player lurking in the ranks really do show they parents, don't they?

:48:05. > :48:08.Not because they are homophobic but because there is likely to be a

:48:09. > :48:12.closeted player on the team anyway and the fans are happily watching

:48:13. > :48:19.them play. They are idiots. Sounds like there's a long way to go. Yes,

:48:20. > :48:23.I feel we have a lot of work to do. We have to take a systematic

:48:24. > :48:28.approach to tackling homophobia and transfer OBE in the game. It is not

:48:29. > :48:34.going to happen overnight. It needs a commitment as Neil says from the

:48:35. > :48:41.authorities, from clubs, and not only professional clubs, grassroots

:48:42. > :48:44.clubs as well. Thank you all for coming on the programme.

:48:45. > :48:46.Author, writer and broadcaster Clive James was diagnosed

:48:47. > :48:48.with terminal leukaemia six years ago.

:48:49. > :48:52.He's still here he says, because he's lucky

:48:53. > :49:06.He now believes he's at the 'peak of his career'.

:49:07. > :49:09.I've been to see him at his home in Cambridge to speak

:49:10. > :49:12.of modern medicine, his biggest regrets and his plans

:49:13. > :49:17.It's a long answer, but the short one is I'm here.

:49:18. > :49:25.In fact, it was New Year's Eve between those two years.

:49:26. > :49:31.The predictions, projections, prognosis wasn't too hot.

:49:32. > :49:33.In fact, I was told to practice saying goodbye.

:49:34. > :49:44.In 2014, you did say that you were saying your goodbyes.

:49:45. > :49:55.I more or less promised to go that winter because I was in

:49:56. > :50:00.The thing to do is not to make predictions,

:50:01. > :50:08.My chief condition, which is a version of leukaemia,

:50:09. > :50:11.it's called CLL, I don't quite know what that stands for,

:50:12. > :50:28.It is meant to be fatal but it can take its time.

:50:29. > :50:31.And the new drugs inhibit it, there is a drug with a wonderful

:50:32. > :50:34.Which I think is wonderful, don't you think?

:50:35. > :50:38.But that is effectively what is keeping

:50:39. > :50:42.It sounds like a character played by Arnold Schwarzenegger

:50:43. > :50:53.There are other things wrong, too, but nothing quite

:50:54. > :51:00.But I've learned to live as if there's no point

:51:01. > :51:04.The thing to do, the big decision you have to make is whether you

:51:05. > :51:07.will go on trying to do what you think you're good

:51:08. > :51:11.I'm also very good at lying down, don't underestimate me,

:51:12. > :51:13.there was never anyone lazier more on earth.

:51:14. > :51:15.I can hit the couch and just lay there, easy.

:51:16. > :51:22.I had things I wanted to say and saying things

:51:23. > :51:28.There's the factor I've been leaving out

:51:29. > :51:33.Things would be very different if I were in pain

:51:34. > :51:37.I wouldn't be able to concentrate and I wouldn't be able

:51:38. > :51:40.to do all this writing and reading and reviewing.

:51:41. > :51:42.to do all this writing and reading and viewing.

:51:43. > :51:47.I counted the whole thing as a stroke of luck.

:51:48. > :51:52.For somebody who smoked like I did should have

:51:53. > :51:58.If it hurt, I would probably complain.

:51:59. > :52:01.I am not so sure how brave I would be.

:52:02. > :52:05.In terms of your career, how do you describe yourself?

:52:06. > :52:17.I'm at the peak of my career, no question.

:52:18. > :52:19.I'm abetter writer now than I ever was.

:52:20. > :52:26.When the end is in sight, you get a perspective on life

:52:27. > :52:30.I was just too dumb and energetic, I was just moving forward

:52:31. > :52:40.What I did wrong as well as what I did right.

:52:41. > :52:43.I would be a little bit trepidatious inviting you to ask me

:52:44. > :52:48.We'll probably get to it and I will stall you.

:52:49. > :53:03.I've apologised for it to the person who matters.

:53:04. > :53:12.I can't be proud of myself, on that score.

:53:13. > :53:15.I try and be proud of the fact that I'm still married to the only

:53:16. > :53:20.I'd like that to count for something.

:53:21. > :53:32.But if I'm alive, then I've been forgiven.

:53:33. > :53:34.We are surrounded by many books that you have

:53:35. > :53:40.This, which features your dear friend Pete Atkin,

:53:41. > :53:43.with whom you had a songwriting partnership for decades.

:53:44. > :53:48.You say this is the work that is closest to your heart

:53:49. > :53:56.We've really suffered as a songwriting duo.

:53:57. > :53:59.Pete and I have suffered from, I should so, lack of attention,

:54:00. > :54:02.Pete and I have suffered from, I should say, lack of attention,

:54:03. > :54:03.some people would say lack of success.

:54:04. > :54:14.It hasn't really been very well-known.

:54:15. > :54:16.It's rather ironic that they might start altering, from my angle,

:54:17. > :54:18.at the very moment I depart the earth.

:54:19. > :54:20.What is it you enjoy about songwriting compared

:54:21. > :54:23.I think songwriting or lyric writing is writing poetry

:54:24. > :54:31.It's simpler in the grammar but sometimes more complicated

:54:32. > :54:43.I've always wanted to do it, and I still do.

:54:44. > :54:55.What's fascinating about this aspect, what's happening now,

:54:56. > :54:58.is that we are getting back into business on such a scale,

:54:59. > :55:01.whether all the records will come out again, I don't know.

:55:02. > :55:06.But if you want to hear Pete singing our songs, you can do it

:55:07. > :55:14.YouTube is changing everything, and you can just dial them up.

:55:15. > :55:17.A song like Beware Of The Beautiful Stranger, which is probably our most

:55:18. > :55:22.# She's a devil and nothing will change.

:55:23. > :55:25.# Get away from the beautiful stranger.

:55:26. > :55:30.It's all going to happen, starting tomorrow.

:55:31. > :55:36.Falling off the twig, as we say in Australia.

:55:37. > :55:42.Loose Canon: the extraordinary songs of Clive James

:55:43. > :55:52.Thank you to Nick Jones on Facebook, who says fantastic interview with

:55:53. > :55:57.Clive James, he would be right at the top of my dinner guest list. It

:55:58. > :55:58.was like watching two friends having a chat, so natural and repression.

:55:59. > :56:02.Thank you very much, Nick. If you interview it is on our web page -

:56:03. > :56:13.bbc.co.uk/victoria. thank you very much for love your

:56:14. > :56:17.message and today. An e-mail from Hayley, as long as they can play

:56:18. > :56:22.decent football, it doesn't matter what sexual orientation they are, it

:56:23. > :56:26.is the player's business and no one else's. Many e-mails from you today

:56:27. > :56:30.on autism and having autistic children. That is because of the

:56:31. > :56:35.story in the news today, showing that early intervention with

:56:36. > :56:38.autistic children can really help them communicating with their mum

:56:39. > :56:44.and dad as they are growing up. An e-mail from Joanne who was a mum to

:56:45. > :56:47.Ben and became a part-time autism specialist teacher. She says it is

:56:48. > :56:51.the power of parents seeking solutions from other parents and

:56:52. > :56:55.professionals that really helps. Every year brings new challenges.

:56:56. > :56:58.This week alone I have contacted two different professionals using my own

:56:59. > :57:04.work contacts to help my son cope with GCSE anxiety. Go parent power.

:57:05. > :57:09.What a fantastic discussion. Paul says I watched with interest your

:57:10. > :57:14.debate about super parenting for orchestra children. Ian was

:57:15. > :57:19.diagnosed -- autistic children. The was diagnosed with severe learning

:57:20. > :57:23.difficulties and autism 19 years ago, the is now 22. My wife and I

:57:24. > :57:26.were determined we would seek to improve his life through verbal and

:57:27. > :57:33.nonverbal communication and improve his interaction with others. He can

:57:34. > :57:36.now do that quite well with others and especially enjoys social

:57:37. > :57:42.interactions and occasions. We feel justified it proud of his

:57:43. > :57:53.achievements. You can hear more of the results of the survey, gay rugby

:57:54. > :57:56.league player Keegan Hirst guests hosts the programme and asked why

:57:57. > :57:59.there are a lot more out gave professional sportsmen and women.

:58:00. > :58:04.Tomorrow we have a report on what has changed to make music venues and

:58:05. > :58:09.clubs safer in the wake of the Bataclan attacks in Paris just over

:58:10. > :58:14.a year ago. It says we will you know who the Bake Off champion is but you

:58:15. > :58:15.will know after watching it tonight, won't you? BBC Newsroom Live is

:58:16. > :58:41.coming up next. DINAH WASHINGTON:

:58:42. > :58:46.# Now you say you love me