28/10/2016

:00:00. > :00:10.It's Friday, it's nine o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria.

:00:11. > :00:14.Our top story, the NHS is losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds

:00:15. > :00:16.every year because it is failing to collect money from foreign

:00:17. > :00:23.We will be looking at who should be paying what.

:00:24. > :00:25.Also today, uncomfortable viewing or lack of interest?

:00:26. > :00:29.Why is it that the world seems to be turning a blind eye to the suffering

:00:30. > :00:32.of thousands of people in Yemen starving to death as a result

:00:33. > :00:41.about the number of Polish people leaving the UK?

:00:42. > :00:43.We are talking to Poles about their experiences of hate crime,

:00:44. > :00:48.the job market and what they want from a family life here.

:00:49. > :00:57.Do we say our self here, and especially raising children? Do we

:00:58. > :00:59.want them to be raised in a country where they will not be considered as

:01:00. > :01:07.somebody wanted? Hello, welcome to the programme,

:01:08. > :01:17.we're live until 11 this morning. We are talking to a sick grandmother

:01:18. > :01:21.who says she will die if she has to go back to her home in South Africa

:01:22. > :01:24.now that the Home Office has said she will be deported.

:01:25. > :01:27.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

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:01:30. > :01:35.The NHS in England is on course to lose out on almost ?150 million

:01:36. > :01:37.by failing to recover the costs of treating foreign patients,

:01:38. > :01:43.The National Audit Office says the health service

:01:44. > :01:46.could collect more money than it does from European governments.

:01:47. > :01:48.It calls for staff to be more aware

:01:49. > :01:50.about who should be billed for health care.

:01:51. > :01:53.Our health correspondent Robert Pigott reports.

:01:54. > :01:55.The Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Romford treats more people

:01:56. > :01:57.from overseas than nearly any other in England and is trying

:01:58. > :02:03.to meet its legal duty to recover the funds.

:02:04. > :02:06.The Government aims to recover ?500 million a year

:02:07. > :02:13.But it is forecast to fall ?150,000 short of the target.

:02:14. > :02:16.The main reason - a failure to collect ?130 milliom

:02:17. > :02:18.from European governments for treating their citizens

:02:19. > :02:30.in how much money they recover from overseas patients.

:02:31. > :02:32.For example, some recover just 15% of debt,

:02:33. > :02:38.The National Audit Office says this wide variation

:02:39. > :02:40.is an indication of just how much room there is for improvement.

:02:41. > :02:42.The NAO says hospital staff are critically important

:02:43. > :02:45.to recovering more money and that there is strong support

:02:46. > :02:54.among them for the prnciple of charging overseas patients.

:02:55. > :02:58.What was more variable was how aware staff were about the cost recovery

:02:59. > :03:01.and about whether they thought they had a role in it, so,

:03:02. > :03:04.for example, only 58% of hospital doctors were aware

:03:05. > :03:11.and I think it was 45% of hospital nurses.

:03:12. > :03:14.The Department of Health says it has tripled the amount it gets back

:03:15. > :03:18.from overseas patients in three years and will take further steps

:03:19. > :03:32.Annita is in the BBC newsroom with a summary

:03:33. > :03:33.of the rest of the day's news.

:03:34. > :03:37.The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a loss of ?469 million

:03:38. > :03:39.in the three months from July to September,

:03:40. > :03:40.more than double the amount expected.

:03:41. > :03:43.The bank received a ?45.5 billion bailout during the financial crisis

:03:44. > :03:48.and is still largely owned by the Government.

:03:49. > :03:51.RBS also confirmed it will miss next year's deadline for the sale

:03:52. > :03:59.but says it's still in the process of transforming the bank.

:04:00. > :04:01.The Government's denied that Nissan was offered compensation

:04:02. > :04:05.to build two new models at its factory in Sunderland.

:04:06. > :04:08.The company had been reviewing its investments in the UK,

:04:09. > :04:13.But it announced yesterday it was reinvigorating its investment

:04:14. > :04:15.following support and assurances from the UK.

:04:16. > :04:18.Nissan says the company received no special deal

:04:19. > :04:24.and the Business Secretary, Greg Clark,

:04:25. > :04:25.insisted there is no financial incentive.

:04:26. > :04:28.This was not a haggle over money, this was a vote

:04:29. > :04:30.of confidence in the future of the automotive sector.

:04:31. > :04:39.There was no cheque-book, I don't have a cheque-book!

:04:40. > :04:42.The important thing is that they know that this is a country

:04:43. > :04:46.in which they can have confidence that they can invest.

:04:47. > :04:49.Police in Scotland have given more details of a man they are searching

:04:50. > :04:53.for in connection with the attempted murder of two police officers.

:04:54. > :04:56.David McLean, who is 30 years old and from Glasgow,

:04:57. > :05:01.and the public are advised not to approach him.

:05:02. > :05:06.Two police officers were injured on Sunday evening

:05:07. > :05:09.in a hit-and-run incident in the northwest of the city.

:05:10. > :05:11.An employment tribunal's due to rule on whether drivers who

:05:12. > :05:13.work for the online minicab firm Uber

:05:14. > :05:14.are self-employed or have workers' rights.

:05:15. > :05:18.The case is expected to affect other new businesses

:05:19. > :05:22.that use smartphone apps to link customers with drivers,

:05:23. > :05:26.couriers and those who deliver takeaway food.

:05:27. > :05:28.Every year, 700,000 women in England and Wales are victims of stalking,

:05:29. > :05:35.but many feel the law doesn't do enough to protect them.

:05:36. > :05:39.to double the maximum sentence from five to ten years.

:05:40. > :05:54.who was harassed by a former patient for seven years.

:05:55. > :05:59.The has never approached me and threatened me, but I just did not

:06:00. > :06:04.have a clue as to what he was trying to achieve by doing it, or his frame

:06:05. > :06:07.of mind, all his thought process, and so it was very difficult to feel

:06:08. > :06:10.safe at any point. This morning MPs are debating

:06:11. > :06:12.whether councils should be forced They're deciding whether to change

:06:13. > :06:16.the law and make it compulsory for councils to offer accommodation

:06:17. > :06:19.to anyone who finds themselves without a home, regardless

:06:20. > :06:21.of whether they're seen West Ham say it has identified

:06:22. > :06:28.200 people involved in violence that broke out at Wednesday

:06:29. > :06:30.night's game with Chelsea. Three people have been

:06:31. > :06:34.charged by police that broke out towards

:06:35. > :06:40.the end of the game. Coins, seats and other objects were

:06:41. > :06:44.thrown between rival supporters. A man accused of stabbing two

:06:45. > :06:46.British backpackers to death has been charged with

:06:47. > :06:51.a second count of murder. Smail Ayad had originally

:06:52. > :06:53.been charged with killing Mia Ayliffe-Chung and

:06:54. > :06:56.attempting to murder Tom Jackson, The charge was upgraded to murder

:06:57. > :07:03.following Mr Jackson's death. Ayad will appear

:07:04. > :07:17.at the mental-health court As Halloween approaches, fire chiefs

:07:18. > :07:21.are warning there has been no improvement to safety laws for fancy

:07:22. > :07:24.dress costumes. Children's costumes are still classified as Tories

:07:25. > :07:30.rather than clothing for safety standards. Fire officers want them

:07:31. > :07:33.to meet the same standards as children's nightclothes because of

:07:34. > :07:38.the risks if they are touched by a naked flame. Advice is that kids

:07:39. > :07:40.know how to stop, drop and roll if their costumes catch fire.

:07:41. > :07:43.A jury in the United States has awarded more than $70 million,

:07:44. > :07:45.or ?57 million, to a woman who claimed years of using

:07:46. > :07:47.Johnson and Johnson's baby powder caused her cancer.

:07:48. > :07:50.Deborah Giannecchini was diagnosed with ovarian cancer four years ago.

:07:51. > :07:52.In the latest case of its kind, she accused the company

:07:53. > :07:55.of negligent conduct in making and marketing its baby powder.

:07:56. > :08:00.Johnson and Johnson says it will appeal.

:08:01. > :08:03.Nasa has released an image that sheds further light on the fate

:08:04. > :08:07.of a European spacecraft which crashed on Mars last week.

:08:08. > :08:10.The magnified image shows the black crater made by the Schiaparelli

:08:11. > :08:12.module after its parachute was released too early,

:08:13. > :08:24.suggest a fuel tank exploded on impact, scattering debris.

:08:25. > :08:26.After years of talks, delegates from 24 countries

:08:27. > :08:29.and the European Union have agreed to create

:08:30. > :08:32.the world's largest marine reserve in Antarctica.

:08:33. > :08:36.An area of more than half a million square miles in the Ross Sea

:08:37. > :08:41.will be protected from commercial fishing and mining.

:08:42. > :08:43.The region is home to a diverse range of species,

:08:44. > :08:47.including Adelie penguins and minky whales.

:08:48. > :08:53.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9:30.

:08:54. > :08:59.Thank you. We are going to take a look at the dire situation any Yemen

:09:00. > :09:04.this morning and why thousands of people are starving to death there.

:09:05. > :09:08.The story has just really come to prominence with images that have

:09:09. > :09:13.been emerging from Yemen of young people starving, you may have seen

:09:14. > :09:17.images of an 18-year-old in the newspapers. We will be talking about

:09:18. > :09:18.that, and plenty more coming up on the programme.

:09:19. > :09:21.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning, use #VictoriaLive.

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:09:25. > :09:34.Not the ideal start to the second test for England's cricketers.

:09:35. > :09:38.No, it started early this morning just before five o'clock, England

:09:39. > :09:44.looking to wrap up this series against Bangladesh, they currently

:09:45. > :09:50.lead 1-0 in that series. Bangladesh won the toss this morning, they are

:09:51. > :09:57.on a huge 194-3 after having won the toss, and England have Sapphire

:09:58. > :10:06.Ansari, the young spinner there. Tammy Mick Vall hit a century for

:10:07. > :10:13.Bangladesh, and Moeen Ali bowled them out, recently getting another

:10:14. > :10:17.wicket. Currently Bangladesh are 194-3, lots to think about for

:10:18. > :10:25.Alastair Cook as they head into the series against India.

:10:26. > :10:30.In tennis, Andy Murray making good progress at the Vienna Open.

:10:31. > :10:34.He is, and he desperately wants to get back to being the world number

:10:35. > :10:39.one, he is into the last eight, where he faces the American John

:10:40. > :10:44.Isner after a victory against Gilles Simon last night. He had to come

:10:45. > :10:53.from a set down. Another victory at the Paris Masters would mean

:10:54. > :10:57.Djokovic would have to take the title to keep his top spot. Murray

:10:58. > :11:01.was not at his best last night, scraping through, a tough run for

:11:02. > :11:07.him, looking absolutely shattered, but he could be world number one by

:11:08. > :11:11.the end of next week, Joanna. What has been the verdict on drug

:11:12. > :11:18.testing at the Rio Olympics? Yes, more controversy from Wada,

:11:19. > :11:22.they have had their work cut out, anyway cover Rio 2016, and Wada

:11:23. > :11:32.saying that there have been serious failings in the drug testing. -- in

:11:33. > :11:36.the wake of Rio 2016. They said that athletes could not be found than

:11:37. > :11:44.half of the tests were cancelled on Sundays. Out of 11,000 athletes at

:11:45. > :11:47.the Games, 4125 had no record of testing whatsoever. Nearly 100

:11:48. > :11:51.samples were not matched to an athlete because of data entry

:11:52. > :11:56.errors, and one missing sample was not located until two weeks after

:11:57. > :12:00.the Games. They say that 500 fewer tests were carried out than they had

:12:01. > :12:03.expected. So rather controversial stats coming out of that report from

:12:04. > :12:08.Wada. The Formula 1 title could be decided

:12:09. > :12:12.this weekend? Yes, Nico Rosberg, slightly

:12:13. > :12:16.unlikely, Lewis Hamilton would have to retire from the race or not

:12:17. > :12:21.finish in Mexico, and Nico Rosberg would have to win it. After this, he

:12:22. > :12:24.can afford to come second and third to win the title. He is the

:12:25. > :12:29.favourite, but perhaps not this weekend. But look at this, getting

:12:30. > :12:36.in the spirit, Daniel Riccardo, pictures of him celebrating the day

:12:37. > :12:39.of the dead celebrations in Mexico City, some serious face painting

:12:40. > :12:44.action going on, look at that, the make-up artist had her work cut out!

:12:45. > :12:49.Nico Rosberg, though, could be a good weekend for him, Lewis Hamilton

:12:50. > :12:50.has to stay in the race to stay in the title.

:12:51. > :12:53.Thank you, Will, see you later. Every day now there's news or fresh

:12:54. > :12:57.indicators about the direction of the UK now we've voted

:12:58. > :12:59.to leave the EU and But what about EU citizens

:13:00. > :13:03.who've made their homes here? There are about a million Polish

:13:04. > :13:07.people living and working in the UK, and many have decided to pack

:13:08. > :13:09.up their lives and leave. A poll suggests that, after Brexit,

:13:10. > :13:12.nearly a quarter of Poles here either back to Poland

:13:13. > :13:17.or to another country. Many feel driven away

:13:18. > :13:20.by a reported rise in hate crimes directed against Poles since

:13:21. > :13:22.Britain voted to leave the EU. Others are worried about the fall

:13:23. > :13:25.in the value of the pound Erika Benke has met two Poles

:13:26. > :13:32.who have decided to move on, and she went to the Polish capital,

:13:33. > :13:35.Warsaw, to speak to a young man

:13:36. > :13:41.who's already moved back. The Brexit vote and its aftermath,

:13:42. > :13:45.which saw an increase in reports of hate crimes,

:13:46. > :13:47.caused many Eastern Europeans living and working in the UK to question

:13:48. > :13:55.whether they wanted to remain here. They think we are invaders and we

:13:56. > :14:00.want to take something from them. Four months on,

:14:01. > :14:10.some have already left, and others are planning

:14:11. > :14:13.to do the same. Do we see ourselves here,

:14:14. > :14:18.especially raising children? Do we want them

:14:19. > :14:21.to be raised in a country where they will be considered

:14:22. > :14:27.as somebody unwanted? We've been to meet

:14:28. > :14:29.three Polish people who are now rethinking

:14:30. > :14:35.their futures. TRANSLATION: But everybody knew

:14:36. > :14:37.the English would do So, in fact, nobody

:14:38. > :14:55.was stealing the jobs. She's lived in Poole

:14:56. > :15:00.for the last seven years. Until four months ago, she worked

:15:01. > :15:05.in a food-processing plant. When I came to England the first

:15:06. > :15:09.time, I thought it will be a big chance for me to have better life

:15:10. > :15:13.and to learn new skills, But after even a short time

:15:14. > :15:22.I was disappointed, It has nothing common to do

:15:23. > :15:33.with what I was thinking. And now after more than seven

:15:34. > :15:36.years of being here, I said, "That's enough,

:15:37. > :15:48.I don't have to be here any more." Now after more than seven years of

:15:49. > :16:01.it, that is enough. I do not have to be here more and to be treated as a

:16:02. > :16:11.person of second category, because I am not.

:16:12. > :16:14.When I was talking with my daughter on the street, we are standing just

:16:15. > :16:17.in front of one of the shops, and we were discussing

:16:18. > :16:19.about something what was inside the shop.

:16:20. > :16:21.And we were joking and laughing, maybe we were talking loudly.

:16:22. > :16:24.And there was passing one man and he said something like that,

:16:25. > :16:27."If you are in England, you have to talk in English!"

:16:28. > :16:30.He said, "Because you are in England!"

:16:31. > :16:35.I am talking with my child, so I will talk with my child

:16:36. > :16:37.in my language, not in English, because it's weird."

:16:38. > :16:50.And the guy, he said, o, i"Nf you are here,

:16:51. > :16:53.And the guy, he said,"No, if you are here,

:16:54. > :16:59.Otherwise you go back to your bloody country."

:17:00. > :17:01.And I said to that guy, "This is also my country,

:17:02. > :17:04.and I have equal rights in here, like you."

:17:05. > :17:10.You don't have any rights in here any more."

:17:11. > :17:14.So that was, you know, my experience after Brexit.

:17:15. > :17:16.Joanna's daughter Monica moved to the UK to live with her

:17:17. > :17:34.She has got a good job and her boyfriend has recently moved in with

:17:35. > :17:41.her. When I came in 2011 my main point was to connect with the

:17:42. > :17:48.family. It may be set that things are not open here since the last

:17:49. > :17:53.four months. But anyway, sometimes you have no choice. I do not want

:17:54. > :18:04.her to go abroad or to any country or continent even. We are thinking

:18:05. > :18:08.of an option like the United States. When the United Kingdom opened the

:18:09. > :18:14.job market in 2004, we thought it would be a good chance to improve

:18:15. > :18:20.our life, but we did not aim to come here to live on benefits, to have

:18:21. > :18:25.everything for free, to beg on the street or something like that. No,

:18:26. > :18:30.we were prepared to come here, work hard and be normal members of

:18:31. > :18:38.society. We are very easy to integrate. We are very pleased to be

:18:39. > :18:45.integrated, but it does not work in either way. They do not want to

:18:46. > :18:50.integrate with us, the Brits, because they think we are invaders

:18:51. > :18:55.and we want to take something from them. No, we do not want to take, we

:18:56. > :19:08.want to give, but they do not want to take it. I do not seek any future

:19:09. > :19:16.for me here, especially after what happened after Brexit. No, I have to

:19:17. > :19:18.be very careful about my future, but I am more than sure my future is not

:19:19. > :19:38.here. Magda is 35, she is a charity

:19:39. > :19:45.worker. Brexit has got her thinking about uprooting her family. I was

:19:46. > :19:50.unconsciously waiting for this moment and I got up at six and I

:19:51. > :19:54.checked my iPad and the news was that England was out of Europe and

:19:55. > :19:58.it was shocking and I was surprised because all my colleagues at work

:19:59. > :20:07.were saying they were voting for staying in, so that was surprising.

:20:08. > :20:11.I do not think there is any difference between Polish people or

:20:12. > :20:20.Italians or Spanish people who come here, it is just the quantity. There

:20:21. > :20:26.are criminals, a small percentage, in Polish society, just like any

:20:27. > :20:30.other, but just the quantity made us so visible that people started to

:20:31. > :20:37.talk about us more than other people. It is really sad and me, as

:20:38. > :20:42.a Polish person, I feel hurt, maybe not hurt, but sad. There are so many

:20:43. > :20:51.people in England, so many different nations and skin colours and I have

:20:52. > :20:55.never read so many bad stories about them as about Polish people. It is

:20:56. > :21:00.impossible that we are so bad and everyone else is awesome and great.

:21:01. > :21:05.It is also not true that we are great and everybody else is bad. We

:21:06. > :21:11.are just people and you cannot put the blame on just one nation. But it

:21:12. > :21:15.is true, I believe it is easier to blame somebody who is European,

:21:16. > :21:24.white and Christian than anybody else because then you avoid

:21:25. > :21:29.problems. When we heard the news about Brexit we started to consider

:21:30. > :21:34.our future as well and we started to think about it and we are still

:21:35. > :21:39.thinking about it. Do we see ourselves here and do we want to

:21:40. > :21:44.raise our children in a country where they will be considered as

:21:45. > :21:50.somebody unwanted? I have a friend who is a teacher in a primary school

:21:51. > :21:59.and one child told her, go back to your country, nobody needs you here.

:22:00. > :22:05.I am not sure if I want this future for my child. I live in a very safe

:22:06. > :22:11.area and I cannot say anything about the people here in the area where I

:22:12. > :22:22.live, bad things, but that is this thought, do we really want to stay

:22:23. > :22:35.here? From Royal Tunbridge Wells to the Polish capital Warsaw. This

:22:36. > :22:38.29-year-old moved back to Poland a few months ago after working as a

:22:39. > :22:45.cleaner in Bath for a couple of years. TRANSLATION: I am interested

:22:46. > :22:54.in politics, but my main interest is in aviation, both civilian and

:22:55. > :23:01.military aviation. I left Poland by the UK after my sister persuaded me

:23:02. > :23:07.to move there. It was the standard of living and higher wages that

:23:08. > :23:14.convinced me to move. I arrived in the UK and the next day I started

:23:15. > :23:21.working in a hotel. I worked there until I returned to Poland. I also

:23:22. > :23:31.found myself another job, an afternoon job, in addition to my

:23:32. > :23:36.main job. I was so busy that I did not have much time for any private

:23:37. > :23:42.life or hobbies. I was just so busy with my jobs that I never had a free

:23:43. > :23:48.moment and when I did I was just resting. There were some English

:23:49. > :23:55.people working in the hotel, but they only stayed for two weeks or a

:23:56. > :24:01.maximum. After that they would go, it was enough for them, they quit.

:24:02. > :24:06.There was no chance for us to learn English because we spoke only in

:24:07. > :24:10.Polish between each other. We learned basic English expressions to

:24:11. > :24:15.communicate with the general manager of the hotel. It was fine, the

:24:16. > :24:20.management had no problem with as speaking Polish all the time among

:24:21. > :24:30.ourselves. It is very hard to learn English if you are in a community

:24:31. > :24:35.where everybody speaks only Polish. The main reason for my return was

:24:36. > :24:43.Brexit and the fact that the general mood changed after the referendum.

:24:44. > :24:49.Until then it was calm, there were no problems. It is hard for me to

:24:50. > :24:55.say what it is like now because I am no longer there. In general, you

:24:56. > :25:00.could feel that Polish people were no longer wanted. That was the

:25:01. > :25:04.outcome of the referendum. People were teasing Polish workers, not

:25:05. > :25:10.accusing them, saying they took English people's jobs. But everybody

:25:11. > :25:15.knew the English would not do the jobs we were doing, so, in fact,

:25:16. > :25:22.nobody was stealing the jobs, but we were still being blamed, that is how

:25:23. > :25:31.it was. I have got a new job here and I start working soon. It is an

:25:32. > :25:36.office job. I do not know if I am missing anything from the UK. But

:25:37. > :25:46.there is something that draws me back. It is possible that I will

:25:47. > :25:48.return to the UK one day, we will see. Never say never, time will

:25:49. > :25:53.tell. We'll be talking more about this

:25:54. > :25:55.later on the programme. We'll hear from two

:25:56. > :25:57.Poles still living here, and the Liberal Democrats who say

:25:58. > :26:00.Eastern Europeans who are already living here should be

:26:01. > :26:12.guaranteed to be able to stay Ian on Facebook sets, they take our

:26:13. > :26:17.jobs and I do not know one builder who is not fed up with the Eastern

:26:18. > :26:21.European 's who undercut them from pay. One other, I like them, they

:26:22. > :26:26.are good people. I have no problem with them who work hard and pay

:26:27. > :26:31.their taxes. People who do not accept the outcome

:26:32. > :26:37.of democracy are probably people we should not accept in Britain anyway.

:26:38. > :26:42.Another person, the Polish feel unwanted and have reported crimes.

:26:43. > :26:44.Still to come, a humanitarian disaster in a country

:26:45. > :26:46.devastated by a war, are we taking enough

:26:47. > :26:49.notice of the suffering of thousands of people in Yemen

:26:50. > :26:53.Also coming up shortly, we'll be talking to the family

:26:54. > :26:58.of a grandmother facing deportation back to South Africa,

:26:59. > :27:00.who says she should be allowed to stay in the UK

:27:01. > :27:11.Here's Anita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:27:12. > :27:13.The NHS is falling well short of its target for recovering

:27:14. > :27:15.the cost of treating overseas patients in England,

:27:16. > :27:20.The National Audit Office suggests the health service will lose out

:27:21. > :27:25.on almost ?150 million a year, which could mostly be claimed back

:27:26. > :27:31.In a report, it highlights wide variations between health trusts

:27:32. > :27:34.and says staff should be more aware of who should be

:27:35. > :27:39.What was more variable was how aware staff were about the cost recovery,

:27:40. > :27:45.and about whether they thought they had a role in it.

:27:46. > :27:49.So, for example, 58% of hospital doctors were aware that some

:27:50. > :27:54.patients were chargeable, and I think it was 45%

:27:55. > :28:00.The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a loss of ?469 million

:28:01. > :28:02.in the three months from July to September,

:28:03. > :28:06.more than double the amount expected.

:28:07. > :28:09.The bank received a ?45.5 billion bailout during the financial crisis

:28:10. > :28:13.and is still largely owned by the Government.

:28:14. > :28:15.RBS also confirmed it will miss next year's deadline for the sale

:28:16. > :28:25.but says it's still in the process of transforming the bank.

:28:26. > :28:30.We will have more on this story shortly.

:28:31. > :28:31.The Government's denied that Nissan was offered compensation

:28:32. > :28:35.to build two new models at its factory in Sunderland.

:28:36. > :28:37.The company had been reviewing its investments in the UK,

:28:38. > :28:41.But it announced yesterday it was reinvigorating its investment

:28:42. > :28:43.following support and assurances from the UK.

:28:44. > :28:45.Nissan says the company received no special deal

:28:46. > :28:46.and the Business Secretary, Greg Clark,

:28:47. > :28:50.insisted there is no financial incentive.

:28:51. > :28:55.He will be appearing before the Business Select Committee to explain

:28:56. > :29:03.the terms and this Nissan received. Police in Scotland have given more

:29:04. > :29:06.details of a man they are searching for in connection with the attempted

:29:07. > :29:09.murder of two police officers. David McLean, who is 30 years

:29:10. > :29:11.old and from Glasgow, and the public

:29:12. > :29:14.are advised not to approach him. Two police officers were injured

:29:15. > :29:16.on Sunday evening in a hit-and-run incident

:29:17. > :29:19.in the northwest of the city. This morning MPs are debating

:29:20. > :29:21.whether councils should be forced They're deciding whether to change

:29:22. > :29:25.the law and make it compulsory for councils to offer accommodation

:29:26. > :29:28.to anyone who finds themselves without a home, regardless

:29:29. > :29:44.of whether they're seen Delegates from 24 countries and the

:29:45. > :29:45.European Union had agreed to create the largest marine reserve in

:29:46. > :29:49.Antarctica. An area of more than half a million

:29:50. > :29:53.square miles in the Ross Sea will be protected from

:29:54. > :29:55.commercial fishing and mining. The region is home to

:29:56. > :29:57.a diverse range of species, including Adelie penguins

:29:58. > :30:00.and minky whales. That's a summary of the

:30:01. > :30:09.latest BBC News, more at 10:00. Why is Bangladesh dominating the

:30:10. > :30:14.opening day of the second test against England in Dhaka. The home

:30:15. > :30:18.side have moved on to 201-4 as they try to level the series. Tammy Mick

:30:19. > :30:22.Balmain a century for Bangladesh, English bowlers have it all to do.

:30:23. > :30:31.-- time in eight valve. Andy Murray has received the final

:30:32. > :30:34.of the yen Open. Drug testing at the Rio Olympics had serious failings

:30:35. > :30:39.according to the World Anti-Doping Agency. Independent observers

:30:40. > :30:45.reported that many athletes targeted for testing could not be found. And

:30:46. > :30:51.Formula 1 is in Mexico this weekend, some drivers have been getting into

:30:52. > :31:00.the spirit of the local Day of the Dead celebrations. Nico Rosberg

:31:01. > :31:05.could win the title this weekend. What is going on with RBS? It is

:31:06. > :31:11.still 73% owned by the Government and is trying to reach a condition

:31:12. > :31:15.where bits of it can be sold off, but today it reported a ?469 million

:31:16. > :31:23.loss, more than double what was forecast. It is going to miss a deal

:31:24. > :31:30.to sell the Williams and Berlin network, part of the terms of the

:31:31. > :31:35.bailout it received. Investors have reacted positively, though, with

:31:36. > :31:48.shares up 5% in early trading. How do we explain all of this? It

:31:49. > :31:53.compares with a massive profit in the last quarter. The whole story is

:31:54. > :31:58.yes but, lots of on one hand it is bad, on the other hand are not quite

:31:59. > :32:04.so bad. Last year they made a profit but it was largely due to the fact

:32:05. > :32:07.that they sold off a bank in the United States, and that gave them

:32:08. > :32:11.slightly inflated profit. The figure they would like us dilettante is

:32:12. > :32:17.operating profit, once you take away all these extra costs that have been

:32:18. > :32:22.loaded on them. -- they would like us to look at. That comes out at

:32:23. > :32:26.over ?1 billion, and they say this is for ? the year, they say they

:32:27. > :32:38.have been making over ?1 billion every quarter. They do have this

:32:39. > :32:42.enormous loss, and they have what are known as legacy issues, all the

:32:43. > :32:48.things left over from the collapse of the financial market. In terms of

:32:49. > :32:54.getting into a shape where it can be sold off, how is that looking? The

:32:55. > :32:58.shares took a bit of a punishing at the Brexit referendum, it is very

:32:59. > :33:02.much domestically focused now, and one of the reasons we have seen the

:33:03. > :33:13.FTSE ricer much is because of the devaluation the pound.

:33:14. > :33:19.RBS is not in the same situation, and as a result of that its shares

:33:20. > :33:24.have taken a bit of a hammering. They did rise when these figures

:33:25. > :33:29.came out, they rose quite rapidly, up about 4%, and then they seem to

:33:30. > :33:33.have tailed off again. It is going to be a long time, I think, before

:33:34. > :33:46.they finally get around to the position of selling them back to the

:33:47. > :33:52.public. They also have this retail bank which they say they are going

:33:53. > :33:56.to sell off, originally to Santander, now Clydesdale Bank,

:33:57. > :34:01.which was putting in an offer. But they said today that it is unlikely

:34:02. > :34:06.they will sell it by the end of 2017, and that date is important

:34:07. > :34:11.because the EU commission said they had to sell it by the end of 2017.

:34:12. > :34:17.Now they are saying they cannot. Whether they will be fined, that is

:34:18. > :34:23.anybody's guess, they have already delayed the sale. They were told to

:34:24. > :34:28.sell it in 2013, whether they will get fined now, probably not,

:34:29. > :34:32.actually. Thank you very much for explaining all of that, thank you.

:34:33. > :34:37.Some breaking news, we are hearing that a teenage boy has been found

:34:38. > :34:43.dead in a fire in a shed in South Yorkshire. The body of a 13-year-old

:34:44. > :34:50.boy was found near Doncaster as the fire was put out. Firefighters were

:34:51. > :34:55.called to the blazed at about nine o'clock yesterday evening. -- blaze.

:34:56. > :34:59.A joint investigation between the Fire Service and the police is under

:35:00. > :35:02.way to establish the cause of the fire, so wait 13-year-old boy found

:35:03. > :35:23.dead in a For our next story, we will be

:35:24. > :35:26.showing you some shocking images of starvation that might not want

:35:27. > :35:29.small children to see. Over the last few weeks these images

:35:30. > :35:32.have been coming out of Yemen. Thousands of people there

:35:33. > :35:33.are suffering from acute malnutrition basically

:35:34. > :35:35.they are starving to death. One such image is this

:35:36. > :35:37.photo of Saida Baghili. She is an 18-year-old woman

:35:38. > :35:40.from a small village which is experiencing a severe

:35:41. > :35:41.humanitarian crisis. If you're first response to Yemen

:35:42. > :35:44.is "Where?" and then "Why?" then please have a look at the film

:35:45. > :38:18.we're about to show you. Saudi Arabia, which borders Yemen,

:38:19. > :38:21.has been accused of killing hundreds of civilians and

:38:22. > :38:24.purposefully targeting hospitals and airports in its war against

:38:25. > :38:28.the Houthi rebels in the war. Oxfam has now accused the British

:38:29. > :38:31.government of acting immorally We can speak now to Hussain

:38:32. > :38:40.Albukhaiti, a journalist in Yemen who is sympathetic

:38:41. > :38:41.to the Houthi rebels. we have the deputy chief executive

:38:42. > :38:45.of Oxfam, Penny Lawrence, who is critical of our government's

:38:46. > :38:47.response to the crisis. And Saleh Saeed, who's chief

:38:48. > :38:49.executive of the Disasters Emergency Committee and a Yemeni

:38:50. > :39:01.community volunteer in the UK. thank you all very much for joining

:39:02. > :39:08.us, distressing, shocking images emerging - how common is this? How

:39:09. > :39:12.long has this been going on for? Because it is obviously, as we are

:39:13. > :39:20.saying, only very recently that the world is waking up to these images.

:39:21. > :39:26.This image, I think they have been in Yemen in real life for 15 months,

:39:27. > :39:35.the war has been for 18 months, and those images are coming from a

:39:36. > :39:41.coastal area that depends 100% on fishing. From the first attack, from

:39:42. > :39:45.the first day of the war, the Saudis have destroyed the fishing ports and

:39:46. > :39:50.targeted all the fishing boat in that area. So they have lost their

:39:51. > :39:56.income on the first day of the war, but for it to come just now, because

:39:57. > :40:00.I think this is because of the Saudi and international blockade, and the

:40:01. > :40:05.media blackout in Yemen, because we know there are no flights coming in,

:40:06. > :40:09.and if it comes, it has to come through Saudi Arabia, it would need

:40:10. > :40:13.permission from Saudi Arabia, and many foreign journalists have been

:40:14. > :40:18.turned from coming into Yemen. So it was a country that was struggling,

:40:19. > :40:23.and then the war over the last 19 months has made everything worse.

:40:24. > :40:27.Yeah, exactly. This is what happened in Yemen. Before the war, it was one

:40:28. > :40:31.of the poorest countries in the world, one of the poorest in the

:40:32. > :40:39.region, in the Middle East, so this war has come to put more pressure on

:40:40. > :40:44.Yemeni people. And as well, because of this blockade and what has

:40:45. > :40:50.arrived at the border, it is hard for Yemeni even to go somewhere, or

:40:51. > :40:55.to go outside, claim asylum, because we are surrounded by enemies, and

:40:56. > :41:00.the only country that is close to us, Somalia, that country has its

:41:01. > :41:04.own problems, and the blockade has come really, really bad. I lived in

:41:05. > :41:10.Sana'a, which is much better than other areas, but we have not had any

:41:11. > :41:16.electricity for 18 months, we have not had running water for 18 months,

:41:17. > :41:20.and everything, people has to buy it themselves, even they have to pay to

:41:21. > :41:26.buy electric generators or solar panels, the people who can afford

:41:27. > :41:31.it. But for other people, they are struggling in just finding something

:41:32. > :41:39.to eat. And according to the latest numbers from Unicef, 14 million

:41:40. > :41:43.people have food insecurity, so 14 million people in Yemen, sometimes

:41:44. > :41:49.they do not know if they will have food today or not. And this is a

:41:50. > :41:56.huge problem, the crisis that we have in Yemen it is directly

:41:57. > :41:59.affected by the Saudi blockade. Over 100,000 children under the age of

:42:00. > :42:06.five have suffered through severe malnutrition. So this 18-year-old

:42:07. > :42:12.Saida Baghili that you showed in your report, this is one of these

:42:13. > :42:16.100,000 people in Yemen, especially kids and the age of five, and this

:42:17. > :42:22.is according to Unicef's latest number. You are with the Disasters

:42:23. > :42:27.Emergency Committee, you are from Yemen - how worried are you about

:42:28. > :42:30.what is happening in your country? Very concerned, this disaster

:42:31. > :42:33.started way before the war, Yemen was going hungry before the war, and

:42:34. > :42:38.the war has exaggerated the situation. We have been seeing these

:42:39. > :42:41.social media pictures for many months now, and now they have

:42:42. > :42:47.reached the mainstream media, more people are getting worried. Up and

:42:48. > :42:50.down the country, Yemeni communities are fundraising, mobilising to try

:42:51. > :42:56.to raise awareness, raise funds and try to end this war. Why has it been

:42:57. > :43:00.so hard to raise awareness? Yemen is competing with many other poor and

:43:01. > :43:04.devastated areas - Syria quite rightly has been dominating the news

:43:05. > :43:08.with the refugee crisis, with the terrible situation in Syria. Chad,

:43:09. > :43:14.Nigeria, other places, so much news competing for each other. Yemen is

:43:15. > :43:21.an obscure, little-known place in the world, and sadly it is often

:43:22. > :43:25.described as a forgotten crisis. I think it is an ignored crisis, in

:43:26. > :43:29.that we need to realise we need to act now and not wait for more

:43:30. > :43:35.terrible images of the poor young lady we saw, 18 years old, in that

:43:36. > :43:37.terrible state. There are over three and 70,000 children in that

:43:38. > :43:46.condition in Yemen as we speak today. -- 370,000. Penny, you are

:43:47. > :43:52.with Oxfam, what can aid agencies do to help? We have been working in

:43:53. > :43:55.Yemen, one of the agencies of the Disasters Emergency Committee, for

:43:56. > :43:59.many years, we are reaching 1 million people at the moment with

:44:00. > :44:02.food and cash, where we can, because keeping the markets open is

:44:03. > :44:09.important, even though food prices have gone up by 60% in the last few

:44:10. > :44:15.months. And 90% of food is imported. Yes, it is totally reliant, 90% of

:44:16. > :44:20.food was imported before the war, and because of the Saudi blockade on

:44:21. > :44:25.the ports, you know, no food is getting through. So the people are

:44:26. > :44:31.suffering because their livelihoods have gone, and now because emergency

:44:32. > :44:35.food is also affected. But it is the world's biggest humanitarian crisis,

:44:36. > :44:38.so it is fantastic that you are drawing attention to it. You are

:44:39. > :44:42.critical of the British Government response to the crisis, what is your

:44:43. > :44:46.concern in particular? The British Cabinet is one of the most generous

:44:47. > :44:50.when it comes to aid provision, but it is conflicted by the fact that it

:44:51. > :44:56.is selling arms to the Saudi coalition. -- the British

:44:57. > :45:00.Government. The Saudis, ?3 billion worth of arms have been sold to the

:45:01. > :45:05.Saudis, and they are using those arms against civilians in this

:45:06. > :45:10.brutal war. Hospitals, schools, a funeral where the Saudis apologised

:45:11. > :45:13.- they admit they are violating international humanitarian law,

:45:14. > :45:18.using British weapons. Britain was one of the real drivers behind the

:45:19. > :45:31.arms trade treaty, which it is now violating.

:45:32. > :45:40.Yes, it is completely immoral and it is illegal in terms of law? Do you

:45:41. > :45:45.believe civilians are being deliberately targeted? Of course,

:45:46. > :45:55.over 10,000 civilians have been killed. There is no military

:45:56. > :46:03.installation next to them, so for the Saudis to say it is a mistake, I

:46:04. > :46:10.do not think so. They have so-called smart bombs or guided bombs, given

:46:11. > :46:17.to them by the British or the Americans, and they use drones to

:46:18. > :46:24.check their targets and the targets are given by the US or the British

:46:25. > :46:31.satellites. I do not believe they have targeted areas by mistake. Last

:46:32. > :46:36.time they targeted a hospital and they said they did not target it at

:46:37. > :46:44.the beginning, but they had the coordinates of that hospital. It is

:46:45. > :46:53.the third time they targeted a hospital in that area. They want to

:46:54. > :47:00.drive them out of that region and they have succeeded. All the staff

:47:01. > :47:04.have been withdrawn from three of the hospitals in that region. What

:47:05. > :47:10.would you like the British Government to do? The British

:47:11. > :47:14.Government and all governments should stop taking part in the

:47:15. > :47:21.conflict. We are pointing fingers at the Saudis and the Yemeni government

:47:22. > :47:25.and all powers who are part of this conflict need to put their arms down

:47:26. > :47:31.and buy food for the population. It is wrong to say this is just a

:47:32. > :47:36.2-party conflict, there are many parties in this conflict. We have to

:47:37. > :47:41.help people with food and not bombs. Even if the war stopped tomorrow,

:47:42. > :47:47.which it will not, what either needs of the Yemeni people? What is the

:47:48. > :47:52.situation there? Sadly we have left it too late to help some of them,

:47:53. > :47:56.but we have to send aid as quickly as possible and that includes urgent

:47:57. > :48:01.food and water and sanitation and the health system is on the brink of

:48:02. > :48:07.collapse, if it has not already collapsed. The Red Cross and others

:48:08. > :48:11.are all working, and they have the capacity to expand their work, the

:48:12. > :48:17.issue is funding. We talked about the embargo, but food is getting in

:48:18. > :48:22.and supplies are getting in, the issue is people cannot afford to buy

:48:23. > :48:28.those supplies and the aid agencies do not have enough funds to supply

:48:29. > :48:33.the whole population. Only the needs of a small percentage is being met

:48:34. > :48:36.at the moment. No one on earth should be starving, the Western

:48:37. > :48:42.authorities if hundreds of billions all over the third World every year.

:48:43. > :48:51.The image we saw in particular of Saida Baghili, who is 18, in such a

:48:52. > :48:55.desperate plight, do you think that will help? Sadly we get shocked by

:48:56. > :49:01.these images and aid agencies often get criticised for using images like

:49:02. > :49:05.these to shock people into giving. We have been warning about this

:49:06. > :49:10.crisis for over one year. We do not want to see these images, we want to

:49:11. > :49:15.avoid situations like Saida Baghili who are on the brink of death before

:49:16. > :49:20.people act. We have to make sure there is a political solution, which

:49:21. > :49:25.is the ultimate aim, and there has to be an increase in humanitarian

:49:26. > :49:31.aid. We need to mobilise the public in the UK to stand up and say,

:49:32. > :49:37.enough is enough, but also the media needs to shine a spotlight. The BBC

:49:38. > :49:40.has been doing a good job, but we need it to be sustained in order to

:49:41. > :49:46.raise that awareness and hopefully there will be a difference.

:49:47. > :49:49.Still to come: We'll be talking to Uber drivers just after ten

:49:50. > :49:51.about whether they should get basic employee rights ahead

:49:52. > :49:53.of the tribunal this afternoon which will decide.

:49:54. > :50:04.Later today, the family of a sick 73-year-old woman from South Africa,

:50:05. > :50:06.will deliver a petition to the government protesting

:50:07. > :50:12.Irene Nel came to the UK to visit her three children who live

:50:13. > :50:14.here when she became ill with kidney failure.

:50:15. > :50:16.Her doctor has warned it's not safe for her to fly,

:50:17. > :50:20.and her family argue the plane journey home could kill her.

:50:21. > :50:24.Their petition to keep her here now has more than 100,000 signatures.

:50:25. > :50:31.Irene is here now with her daughter Desree Roberts.

:50:32. > :50:40.Thank you both for coming in. Tell us first of all why you think you

:50:41. > :50:46.should be able to stay in the UK. Why? I have got all my kids here, I

:50:47. > :50:54.have got all my grandchildren here and I would be all by myself in

:50:55. > :51:06.South Africa. Well, I am not well. Tell us about your health issues. My

:51:07. > :51:13.health issues? Dialysis? I am on dialysis three times a week. I do

:51:14. > :51:18.not find it nice, but they are very good to me, they are absolutely

:51:19. > :51:25.fantastic, and that makes me live longer. The NHS? Oh, yes. What

:51:26. > :51:31.treatment have you had and how long have you been having that treatment?

:51:32. > :51:40.About three and a half years, isn't it? Yes, that is right. Three and a

:51:41. > :51:47.half years. You came on a six-month Beazer in 2012 and you never left.

:51:48. > :51:53.Why did you not go home? When I came here and I was fine and I took ill

:51:54. > :52:03.with a chest infection and they took me to hospital. But I did not get

:52:04. > :52:11.better. They diagnosed me with kidney failure. How long had you

:52:12. > :52:20.been here when you were diagnosed? About two weeks. It was about two

:52:21. > :52:25.weeks. You came here as a visitor. Did you ever expect or want to stay?

:52:26. > :52:31.I never thought I would stay here, no. I was thinking, I have to go

:52:32. > :52:37.back home. That is what happened. The Home Office has said it

:52:38. > :52:41.carefully considers all cases on their individual merits and your

:52:42. > :52:47.mother cannot state. Why shouldn't she go back to South Africa? She has

:52:48. > :52:51.got three children here and it is our responsibility to look after our

:52:52. > :52:55.mother and she has got nothing in South Africa. Besides, the emotional

:52:56. > :53:00.care and providing support for her, and she does not have any support at

:53:01. > :53:07.home and she will not get dialysis in South Africa. If you are over 60,

:53:08. > :53:13.they do not give you dialysis, so she will die. It is a decision of

:53:14. > :53:20.her staying with her family, being looked after, or going back to South

:53:21. > :53:23.Africa to her death. To me that is not a decision. And considered all

:53:24. > :53:29.of those arguments and while not commenting on this case, it says it

:53:30. > :53:33.looks very carefully at individual circumstances as she cannot stay.

:53:34. > :53:40.Obviously by staying, it costs the NHS money. People might say why

:53:41. > :53:45.should that be the case? He played along it to them it is costing the

:53:46. > :53:50.country. How do you justify that? He is my mother, I have been here for

:53:51. > :53:59.17 years, I class myself as British and I have been here long enough and

:54:00. > :54:04.me and my brothers are taxpayers. It is our responsibility to look after

:54:05. > :54:10.our parents. But you have paid in for any needs you might have, but

:54:11. > :54:15.your mother has not paid in. I understand that, but you are facing

:54:16. > :54:21.the inhumane thing of sending her back. Imagine putting her on a plane

:54:22. > :54:28.and saying, goodbye, and two weeks she passes away and that is what

:54:29. > :54:33.will happen. What will you do? The Home Office says she cannot stay.

:54:34. > :54:39.This is why we are here fighting our case and we have had overwhelming

:54:40. > :54:43.support. People say it is not right. They say you should not have the

:54:44. > :54:50.choice of living with you or her going back to set Africa to die.

:54:51. > :54:54.There is no option. When she came she came on a tourist Visa and did

:54:55. > :55:02.not expect to stay. So what happened? She did not have a

:55:03. > :55:05.situation where she had a home that she owned or anything like that, my

:55:06. > :55:12.father had passed away a long time ago and we funded her. But when she

:55:13. > :55:17.got ill, there was no way she could have looked after herself, she had

:55:18. > :55:22.no pension. We knew in the future we would have to look after her, but

:55:23. > :55:25.not to the extent that she had an illness as well because we had no

:55:26. > :55:31.idea until she came here that she had a kidney problem. When she came

:55:32. > :55:37.here with a chest infection, this was not a situation we planned and

:55:38. > :55:41.we said, we will get her to the UK to get treatment. Some people have

:55:42. > :55:46.said that. We took out insurance every single time she came here and

:55:47. > :55:51.the paper her for a certain period of time, but that stopped because it

:55:52. > :55:56.is dialysis and they said she had to go back. But she cannot go back to

:55:57. > :56:03.the kind of care she needs now. Why not? There is no support strategy,

:56:04. > :56:08.she would need 24 hour care and somebody to take her to dialysis and

:56:09. > :56:14.back and we would have to find her a home. If this had happened prior to

:56:15. > :56:18.her coming here, you would be in this situation with her in South

:56:19. > :56:23.Africa and you would have had to find a way to deal with it. We would

:56:24. > :56:29.have had to have faced the fact that she would have passed away. Over

:56:30. > :56:34.here she is under my roof, we can feed her and give her shelter and

:56:35. > :56:41.transported to and fro, but in South Africa we would not have any of that

:56:42. > :56:51.access. Excuse me, they do not give you dialysis in South Africa over

:56:52. > :56:54.65. It is 60. 60-65. You have got siblings, you are all working, could

:56:55. > :57:00.you pay for that privately to be done in South Africa? We have looked

:57:01. > :57:05.at it and we have calculated everything and you cannot fund it,

:57:06. > :57:09.it is too expensive. Over here, feeding her, giving her a roof over

:57:10. > :57:17.her head, transporting her to and fro. The alternative is the NHS

:57:18. > :57:21.paying. Yes, they do and in South Africa we would have to cover all

:57:22. > :57:27.those expenses and we can do both. It comes down to why should the NHS

:57:28. > :57:33.pay? That is what people are asking, so why should they pay? For us it is

:57:34. > :57:40.an emotional decision, it is my mother. As a family we feel strongly

:57:41. > :57:44.we live in this country and the government talks about having a

:57:45. > :57:50.social responsibility towards your family and that is how we feel. We

:57:51. > :57:54.have a social responsibility to look after my mother, regardless of

:57:55. > :57:59.whether she used to live in South Africa. Her children are here now

:58:00. > :58:03.and this is where her support is. Not only physically, it is mentally

:58:04. > :58:05.as well, her being around her children and her family.

:58:06. > :58:07.her being around her children and her family.

:58:08. > :58:11."All cases are carefully considered on their individual merits,

:58:12. > :58:13.in line with the immigration rules and based on the evidence

:58:14. > :58:17."The decision made on this case has been upheld

:58:18. > :58:19.by an independent tribunal which considered the full range

:58:20. > :58:33.Let's catch up with the latest weather. Some amazing pictures from

:58:34. > :58:37.Dorset the mist going over a cliff. We had some fantastic pictures

:58:38. > :58:44.yesterday and at this time of the year we see radiation fog. That is

:58:45. > :58:46.because at this time of the year we have got longer night and

:58:47. > :58:57.high-pressure, clear skies and light winds. That is why it makes fog like

:58:58. > :59:03.this. But it is very heavy and thence with all that cold air, so it

:59:04. > :59:09.is falling off the edge of a cliff into the warmer air in the sea.

:59:10. > :59:13.More broadly how are things looking? We will see less mist and fog over

:59:14. > :59:27.the next few days. For many of us it is a more quite

:59:28. > :59:31.picture. This was what it looked like this morning in Stirling and it

:59:32. > :59:36.is similar across many parts of the country. The best of the brightness

:59:37. > :59:40.of this morning is in northern areas. In the south we have a bit

:59:41. > :59:46.more cloud in Wales and the south-west of England. And improving

:59:47. > :59:51.picture as we head through the day. This is four o'clock in the

:59:52. > :59:55.afternoon. Temperatures about 12 degrees in Northern Ireland. A few

:59:56. > :00:00.showers in Scotland in the north, but it is looking dry and bright

:00:01. > :00:06.right through the day. Those bright and sunny spells continue as we head

:00:07. > :00:12.into northern England. In the South East it is warm with temperatures up

:00:13. > :00:17.to around 16 degrees. Light winds and dry weather stay with us as we

:00:18. > :00:19.move to the south-west of England. The dry and settled weather is set

:00:20. > :00:22.to continue throughout the weekend. Hello, it's Friday, it's ten

:00:23. > :00:25.o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling, welcome to the programme if

:00:26. > :00:29.you've just joined us. Coming up before 11: Uber drivers

:00:30. > :00:31.find out this afternoon if they will get basic employee

:00:32. > :00:35.rights like the minimum wage Also today, should councils do more

:00:36. > :00:41.to help the homeless? MPs debate today whether local

:00:42. > :00:43.authorities should be forced to find accommodation for anyone

:00:44. > :00:46.who finds themselves without a home, regardless of whether

:00:47. > :00:51.they're seen as a priority case. The social media app Vine is popular

:00:52. > :00:56.for creating short, sharp comedy, is using it to connect

:00:57. > :00:58.with the public. We'll be talking to internet

:00:59. > :01:20.sensation PC Walsh, Don't forget to get in touch with us

:01:21. > :01:21.about everything we are talking about.

:01:22. > :01:24.Here's Annita in the BBC newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:25. > :01:27.The NHS is falling well short of its target for recovering

:01:28. > :01:29.the cost of treating overseas patients in England,

:01:30. > :01:33.The National Audit Office suggests the health service will lose out

:01:34. > :01:36.which could mostly be claimed back from European governments.

:01:37. > :01:41.In a report, it highlights wide variations between health trusts

:01:42. > :01:47.of who should be billed for healthcare.

:01:48. > :01:51.What was more variable was how aware staff were about the cost recovery,

:01:52. > :01:56.and about whether they thought they had a role in it.

:01:57. > :02:00.So, for example, 58% of hospital doctors were aware

:02:01. > :02:07.and I think it was 45% of hospital nurses.

:02:08. > :02:10.The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced a loss of ?469 million

:02:11. > :02:12.in the three months from July to September,

:02:13. > :02:14.more than double the amount expected.

:02:15. > :02:17.The bank received a ?45.5 billion bailout during the financial crisis

:02:18. > :02:25.and is still largely owned by the Government.

:02:26. > :02:30.RBS also confirmed it will miss next year's deadline

:02:31. > :02:37.for the sale of its Williams Glyn branches

:02:38. > :02:40.but says it's still in the process of transforming the bank.

:02:41. > :02:43.A teenage boy has been found dead in a fire

:02:44. > :02:47.South Yorkshire Police said the body of a 13-year-old boy

:02:48. > :02:49.was found in the shed in Campsall near Doncaster

:02:50. > :02:52.Firefighters were called to the blaze last night.

:02:53. > :02:55.Formal identification has not yet taken place,

:02:56. > :02:57.and a joint investigation between the South Yorkshire Fire Service

:02:58. > :03:05.and police is under way to establish the cause of the fire.

:03:06. > :03:07.The Government has denied that Nissan was offered compensation

:03:08. > :03:09.to build two new models at its factory in Sunderland.

:03:10. > :03:12.Nissan says the company received no special deal,

:03:13. > :03:13.and the Business Secretary, Greg Clark,

:03:14. > :03:19.insisted there is no financial incentive.

:03:20. > :03:21.This morning the chair of a parliamentary group of MPs

:03:22. > :03:25.to appear before the Business Select Committee

:03:26. > :03:27.to explain what's been said to the car maker

:03:28. > :03:31.in terms of the support and assurances it said it received.

:03:32. > :03:34.Police in Scotland have given more details of a man they are searching

:03:35. > :03:37.for in connection with the attempted murder of two police officers.

:03:38. > :03:39.David McLean, who is 30 years old and from Glasgow,

:03:40. > :03:44.and the public are advised not to approach him.

:03:45. > :03:46.Two police officers were injured on Sunday evening

:03:47. > :03:51.in a hit-and-run incident in the northwest of the city.

:03:52. > :03:54.This morning, MPs are debating whether councils should be forced

:03:55. > :04:02.They're deciding whether to change the law and make it compulsory

:04:03. > :04:04.without a home, regardless of whether they're seen

:04:05. > :04:11.And at 10:30, Joanna will be talking to a homeless couple

:04:12. > :04:17.along with a charity and councillor trying to deal with this issue.

:04:18. > :04:20.West Ham say it has identified 200 people involved in violence

:04:21. > :04:23.that broke out at Wednesday night's game with Chelsea.

:04:24. > :04:29.Three people have been charged by police in connection

:04:30. > :04:32.with the trouble that broke out towards the end of the game.

:04:33. > :04:33.Coins, seats and other objects were thrown

:04:34. > :04:43.As Halloween approaches, fire chiefs are warning there've been

:04:44. > :04:45.no improvements to safety laws for fancy dress costumes.

:04:46. > :04:47.Children's costumes are still classified as toys rather

:04:48. > :04:50.Fire officers want them to meet the same standards

:04:51. > :04:54.because of the risk if they're touched by a naked flame.

:04:55. > :04:57.Advice to parents is to ensure kids know how to stop, drop and roll

:04:58. > :05:07.After years of talks, delegates from 24 countries

:05:08. > :05:09.and the European Union have agreed to create the world's largest

:05:10. > :05:16.An area of more than half a million square miles in the Ross Sea

:05:17. > :05:18.will be protected from commercial fishing and mining.

:05:19. > :05:24.The region is home to a diverse range of species,

:05:25. > :05:30.including Adelie penguins and minky whales.

:05:31. > :05:38.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9:30.

:05:39. > :05:45.Lots of you getting in touch about the interview that I just did with

:05:46. > :05:50.Irene Nel, about being told she has got to go back to South Africa. She

:05:51. > :05:54.is having dialysis treatment in the UK, having arrived on a tourist

:05:55. > :05:58.visa. We have one person getting in touch saying, my children have gone

:05:59. > :06:03.to New Zealand, we all know this is going to arise one day. If I went on

:06:04. > :06:07.holiday there, I would not expect them to fund my expensive medical

:06:08. > :06:12.care. Your children make this decision, they need to sort it out.

:06:13. > :06:14.Do get in touch with us on everything we are talking about.

:06:15. > :06:17.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:06:18. > :06:24.We'll start with the cricket, and Bangladesh were completely

:06:25. > :06:26.dominating the opening day of the second test against England

:06:27. > :06:28.in Dhaka, but they've lost five wickets for 31 runs

:06:29. > :06:35.It has completely been turned on its head.

:06:36. > :06:37.Having won the toss, the home side are now 205-6

:06:38. > :06:43.eventually bowled by Moeen Ali, who's now taken three wickets.

:06:44. > :06:46.England's bowlers will look to have them all out on day one,

:06:47. > :06:50.having been well off the pace just a hour or so ago.

:06:51. > :06:52.Andy Murray will play American John Isner

:06:53. > :06:55.in the quarterfinals of the Vienna Open tennis later today.

:06:56. > :06:57.Murray beat Gilles Simon in three sets to

:06:58. > :07:02.It takes his unbeaten run to 12 matches.

:07:03. > :07:04.Murray could become world number one if he wins in Vienna

:07:05. > :07:13.as long as Novak Djokovic doesn't reach the semifinals in France.

:07:14. > :07:18.Drug testing, at the Rio Olympics had serious failings,

:07:19. > :07:21.according to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

:07:22. > :07:23.Their independent observers reported that many athletes

:07:24. > :07:27.targeted for testing couldn't be found,

:07:28. > :07:30.and on some days half the tests were cancelled because of that.

:07:31. > :07:33.Wada found a lack of coordination among the management team

:07:34. > :07:35.in the Rio 2016 anti-doping department.

:07:36. > :07:37.And Formula One is in Mexico this weekend,

:07:38. > :07:40.where the drivers' championship could be decided.

:07:41. > :07:41.Nico Rosberg leads his Mercedes team-mate

:07:42. > :07:43.and reigning champion Lewis Hamilton by 26 points.

:07:44. > :07:45.Rosberg says he's paying no attention

:07:46. > :07:57.It is exciting to be in this championship battle with Lewis

:07:58. > :08:02.towards the end of the season. You know, we have been a funds before,

:08:03. > :08:08.but anyways it is very cool, and that is it. As I have said before,

:08:09. > :08:11.my way of achieving the best possible performance is really just

:08:12. > :08:16.to focus on the things that I... Things which are within my control,

:08:17. > :08:22.and in Mexico that is trying to win the race, and that is it. Rory

:08:23. > :08:25.McIlroy has played himself back into contention at the World Golf

:08:26. > :08:29.Championship is Shanghai, a six under round of 66 included this

:08:30. > :08:41.birdiable asked to move to under overall. -- including this birdie at

:08:42. > :08:45.the last. And the Sir Bradley Wiggins and Mark Cavendish remains

:08:46. > :08:49.second overall after day three of the six day London Cycling

:08:50. > :08:55.Championships in Lea Valley. They failed to win any races, including

:08:56. > :08:59.the final one, which saw Wigan is upset with his pace for not going

:09:00. > :09:04.quickly enough. But they cumulated enough points to hold their position

:09:05. > :09:07.in the standings. The headlines for you at 10:30, see you then. Lots of

:09:08. > :09:15.you getting in touch on the interview I did with Desree and

:09:16. > :09:22.Irene, she needs dialysis treatment she came here on a tourist visa, the

:09:23. > :09:26.Home Office says she has to go back to South Africa. Maria says, it is

:09:27. > :09:30.very sad this old lady is ill, but many people travel here for

:09:31. > :09:37.treatment accompanied by medical staff during the flight. The fact

:09:38. > :09:41.that South Africans do not allow dialysis for older people is not a

:09:42. > :09:44.reason for her to stay. The logical conclusion would be that every

:09:45. > :09:49.elderly patient would come here for treatment. Lucy says, one of her

:09:50. > :09:53.kids should care for her, I have had my benefits stopped because of

:09:54. > :09:58.austerity, we should not care for the rest of the world, as we seem to

:09:59. > :10:03.be constantly doing. My mother has dementia, she has no care, it is all

:10:04. > :10:06.left up to me, we're British going back many generations. Another

:10:07. > :10:14.person says, might and and uncle went back to South Africa in the

:10:15. > :10:20.1970s, but we saw them gradually come back, demanding support for the

:10:21. > :10:23.NHS, support agencies, housing suitable for their need. South

:10:24. > :10:29.Africa was a land of riches and opportunity until bad health hit.

:10:30. > :10:35.And Andrew says, to even think of sending this old lady back to South

:10:36. > :10:38.Africa when the Government is taking in and told numbers of refugees is

:10:39. > :10:43.ridiculous. Let us know what you think about this next story as well.

:10:44. > :10:45.-- and A group of Uber drivers who have

:10:46. > :10:48.been fighting for more rights will find out this afternoon

:10:49. > :10:50.whether their case The drivers, who are being helped

:10:51. > :10:54.by the GMB union, say they should be classified as workers rather

:10:55. > :10:56.than self-employed - and be given entitlements

:10:57. > :10:58.like minimum wage and paid holiday. it'll have implications for many

:10:59. > :11:02.more unemployed workers. Uber, on the other hand,

:11:03. > :11:04.argues that the majority of drivers value being self-employed

:11:05. > :11:10.and the flexibility that brings. we will talk more about it in a

:11:11. > :11:13.moment. spoke to one of the drivers

:11:14. > :11:21.involved in the case last year. The flexibility is really great.

:11:22. > :11:23.You know? You can switch on the app

:11:24. > :11:26.and work whenever you want. You can stop whenever you want

:11:27. > :11:28.and go home. is that if you're not working,

:11:29. > :11:36.you're not earning. The earnings are so much lower

:11:37. > :11:38.than I expected, and it's really starting

:11:39. > :11:43.to bite now. My average net in July was ?5.03

:11:44. > :11:48.an hour, well below minimum wage. So if you want to cover your costs

:11:49. > :11:51.and keep the family afloat, But at the end of the day

:11:52. > :11:58.it's your choice, right? you could work for somebody else,

:11:59. > :12:03.get another job? But Uber has so aggressively come

:12:04. > :12:08.into the market, I think those opportunities to work for other

:12:09. > :12:13.operators are rapidly evaporating. Many of our drivers have moved

:12:14. > :12:16.from traditional jobs where they had to work prescribed shifts

:12:17. > :12:19.and certain number of hours a week and it was difficult

:12:20. > :12:22.to take time off, and they've chosen to work with Uber

:12:23. > :12:25.because of that flexibility. The fact that you can work

:12:26. > :12:27.literally whenever you want, that the majority of Uber drivers

:12:28. > :12:31.are really looking for. and have rights like holiday pay

:12:32. > :12:36.and the minimum wage? is something that we look at

:12:37. > :12:40.very, very carefully. What we find is that most

:12:41. > :12:43.of the drivers using the app actually take home

:12:44. > :12:46.around ?15 or ?16 an hour. Obviously their costs vary hugely,

:12:47. > :12:49.depending on whether they rent or own and a number of other

:12:50. > :12:52.factors, but the majority of them are actually making around

:12:53. > :12:55.?10 or ?12 an hour, We can now speak to Nigel Mackay

:12:56. > :13:03.from Leigh Day solicitors, who represented the drivers

:13:04. > :13:05.in the case, Steven Rowe and Asif Hanif

:13:06. > :13:22.are both Uber drivers. Thank you all for coming in. Nigel,

:13:23. > :13:24.first of all, two drivers involved in this tribunal, but the

:13:25. > :13:29.implications could be much wider than that. How important is this

:13:30. > :13:33.case? I think this case is really important, because what it is

:13:34. > :13:37.looking at, the fundamental thing about the case, is whether people

:13:38. > :13:41.who work for technology companies, in this case Uber, should be

:13:42. > :13:45.entitled to the same basic workers' rights as everybody else. And what

:13:46. > :13:50.we are saying is that there is no reason why they shouldn't be, just

:13:51. > :13:56.because it is a technology company, just because you communicate with

:13:57. > :13:58.your employer through an app does not mean you lose all those basic

:13:59. > :14:06.workers' rights. And if you actually look at the way Uber operates, we

:14:07. > :14:09.think it is just wrong that they miss label their drivers as

:14:10. > :14:14.self-employed, when actually we think it is a typical working

:14:15. > :14:18.relationship in terms of the control that Uber exerts over its drivers,

:14:19. > :14:22.and the fact that it is Uber that controls the relationship with the

:14:23. > :14:28.customer, and the appraisal system that it uses. You know, there are

:14:29. > :14:31.lots of different factors like that which suggested that this is really

:14:32. > :14:36.just a normal working relationship, and I think it is really important,

:14:37. > :14:43.given the growth of the so-called big economy, that this question is

:14:44. > :14:49.decided. Asif, you think you should be treated as employed by Uber, why?

:14:50. > :14:51.Definitely, this is about the working environment in this country

:14:52. > :14:55.which we have achieved after a struggle of more than 100 years. We

:14:56. > :15:00.are talking about workers' rights in this country, and when the workers,

:15:01. > :15:04.those working on the ground, they have made an enormous amount of

:15:05. > :15:07.profit for these companies, they should contribute towards their

:15:08. > :15:11.responsibility in the country that they are operating in. We are not

:15:12. > :15:17.about the drivers, we are about all the whipping class in the country,

:15:18. > :15:20.in British society, that these companies, they are taking advantage

:15:21. > :15:24.of the opportunities here in Britain, they should also respect

:15:25. > :15:29.the law of the land and fulfil their responsibilities.

:15:30. > :15:37.When you went to work for them, you knew the terms you were working

:15:38. > :15:43.under. These terms were not there, we were only considered as partners.

:15:44. > :15:49.Partners for what? Since then we have only been communicating with

:15:50. > :15:54.them through e-mails. In this time in the world there is a need for a

:15:55. > :15:58.human presence, but there is none. The customers have spoken to us and

:15:59. > :16:04.they like us, but they want to know what the drivers are feeling. You

:16:05. > :16:09.are a driver and you do not want to be treated like an employee.

:16:10. > :16:13.Absolutely not, I am self-employed and I control the hours I want to

:16:14. > :16:19.work and if anyone is employed, I employ them, they get me business,

:16:20. > :16:25.they take a fair slice of the earnings, it is equivalent to

:16:26. > :16:35.anywhere else in the industry. It never occurred to me that I was

:16:36. > :16:39.anything other than self-employed. The main reason people say they

:16:40. > :16:43.partner with Uber is because they can become their own boss and they

:16:44. > :16:48.pick their own hours and two thirds of these drivers have been employed

:16:49. > :16:55.by another company. This case has got nothing to do with flexibility.

:16:56. > :17:01.If it suits them, it is fine with the GMB, it is fine with Uber and

:17:02. > :17:03.the customers. But this is a straightforward battle about

:17:04. > :17:08.exploitation and that is what we need the court to decide on, whether

:17:09. > :17:14.or not these people are workers or genuinely self-employed. You are

:17:15. > :17:19.concerned with them not getting the minimum wage. Absolutely, it is

:17:20. > :17:23.about people getting what they are statutorily entitled to as a

:17:24. > :17:30.minimum. If they do not get it, it is a race to the bottom where people

:17:31. > :17:35.are driven down to the bottom not by human management, but by an

:17:36. > :17:39.algorithm. All the costs go back onto the individuals and that result

:17:40. > :17:44.in damage to the economy because Uber does not pay taxes as it should

:17:45. > :17:49.do if it was employing these people properly as workers. That is picked

:17:50. > :17:57.up by taxpayers and the state. How do you respond to that? With

:17:58. > :18:03.incredulity. You get no benefits. I never expected to get benefits and I

:18:04. > :18:10.have been using the app for four years. I am a self-employed person.

:18:11. > :18:16.It suits me down to the ground. I am not just a Uber driver, I am a user

:18:17. > :18:21.as well. I went out yesterday evening and I took a Uber car where

:18:22. > :18:29.I was going on took one back. All the people who use the card seem

:18:30. > :18:36.happy. What about the minimum wage? Uber is saying most people make ?10

:18:37. > :18:41.to ?12 an hour after costs. One complainant is saying they are not

:18:42. > :18:48.getting this. I have no complaint with what I earn and the percentage

:18:49. > :18:54.that Uber takes. My brother is a driver and he has no complaints, he

:18:55. > :18:58.is very happy. I do not see it. I never have anything but good

:18:59. > :19:05.experiences. You make more than the minimum wage? The question is about

:19:06. > :19:10.being self-employed and how can I be self-employed when I am not

:19:11. > :19:15.controlling it? I am not interfacing with customers and I am not getting

:19:16. > :19:24.the money from them. I do not know their pick-up and destination. I am

:19:25. > :19:30.doing the job, I opened the up and Uber controlled the app and they did

:19:31. > :19:36.take to me where to go. Also this ratings system, how can I be self

:19:37. > :19:41.employed when things are not at my discretion, it is controlled by

:19:42. > :19:48.them? The customers pay Uber and Uber pays me. This boils down to

:19:49. > :19:55.legal arguments. What has to be proved on each side? The first point

:19:56. > :20:01.is I would agree with Justin, this flexibility point which Uber has

:20:02. > :20:05.repeated. It is not really the issue that we are saying the drivers are

:20:06. > :20:08.worker and that does not mean they cannot work flexibly. All we are

:20:09. > :20:13.saying is that drivers should be entitled to the minimum wage and a

:20:14. > :20:21.holiday. Why would you not want to pay your driver is the minimum wage?

:20:22. > :20:28.Uber says the majority are making ?10 to ?12 an hour. We have spoken

:20:29. > :20:34.to lots of Uber drivers and that is not the experience we have been

:20:35. > :20:44.hearing. Uber is not paying the drivers. The money and they get a

:20:45. > :20:48.fair percentage would taking the risk from dodgy credit cards and

:20:49. > :20:52.they pass the money over to me. They are not paying me, they are

:20:53. > :20:56.collecting the money on behalf of the people I drive. How would it

:20:57. > :21:03.feel if they found the model was wrong? I would be concerned because

:21:04. > :21:07.there would be change in how it works. I would be concerned I would

:21:08. > :21:11.not have the ability to work whatever hours I want and whenever I

:21:12. > :21:19.want and it would affect Uber passengers. Most Uber drivers I have

:21:20. > :21:23.met are perfectly happy. When you say it would affect passengers, with

:21:24. > :21:30.the prices go up? They would have to go up. Because people would pay

:21:31. > :21:33.properly. What do you mean properly? The government would set the minimum

:21:34. > :21:41.wage that people would actually have to be paid. But I am not employed, I

:21:42. > :21:45.am a self-employed businessman who chooses to use the Uber app because

:21:46. > :21:50.it gives me the flexibility to own money as a part-time job, as a

:21:51. > :21:55.part-time source of income, to work along with the other things I do.

:21:56. > :22:03.That does not reflect the reality of the situation. It is right that Uber

:22:04. > :22:06.labels them as self-employed, but that is a misrepresentation when you

:22:07. > :22:11.look at the facts on the ground which is all about the way Uber

:22:12. > :22:18.exerts control. How do they exert control? They run an appraisal

:22:19. > :22:22.system. That works two ways. They do not tell you where customers want to

:22:23. > :22:30.go. If you are self-employed, you get to control all that. First, the

:22:31. > :22:35.appraisal system works both ways. We appraise passengers as well. The

:22:36. > :22:42.appraisal system is great because it weed out any drivers who are not

:22:43. > :22:47.giving good service. In the early days you did not know where your

:22:48. > :22:51.last job was going to be and they brought in something where you can

:22:52. > :22:56.put in the app where you only want jobs going in a certain direction.

:22:57. > :23:01.You know the jobs you get will be going towards your home. What you

:23:02. > :23:07.have said about the appraisal system weeding out drivers is a typical way

:23:08. > :23:13.an employer acts. That is the way somebody running a business acts,

:23:14. > :23:17.they employ people. We get the judgment later. What happens

:23:18. > :23:28.whichever way it goes? We'll both sides appeal? If we win, which we

:23:29. > :23:33.are hoping we will, the net take how much drivers should be paid in terms

:23:34. > :23:38.of the minimum wage, and also dealing with the question of

:23:39. > :23:43.holidays. Obviously Uber will have the right to appeal if they can find

:23:44. > :23:47.an error in the judgment. If we do not win, we will be scrutinising the

:23:48. > :23:55.judgment to see whether we can appeal. It is such an important

:23:56. > :23:58.issue. Thank you all very much. We asked Uber to come on the programme,

:23:59. > :24:04.but they declined saying they would not speak before the judgment.

:24:05. > :24:09.Welcome to the world of the courier driver, says one tweet, this issue

:24:10. > :24:11.has been around for years. Keep getting in touch with us.

:24:12. > :24:17.Stil to come: The NHS is losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds

:24:18. > :24:19.every year because it is failing to collect money from foreign

:24:20. > :24:22.We'll be talking to a Health Economist about

:24:23. > :24:36.We have been looking at the impact of the Brexit on citizens from

:24:37. > :24:42.There's about one million Polish people living and working in the UK,

:24:43. > :24:45.and many of them have decided to pack up their lives and leave

:24:46. > :24:48.A poll conducted among Britain's Polish community

:24:49. > :24:51.suggests that after Brexit, nearly a quarter of Poles here

:24:52. > :24:54.wanted to move away from the UK - either back to Poland

:24:55. > :24:59.Many say they're being driven away by the reported rise in hate crimes

:25:00. > :25:01.directed against Poles since Britain voted to leave the EU.

:25:02. > :25:05.Erika Benke met two Poles who have decided to move from Brexit Britain.

:25:06. > :25:08.She went to the Polish capital, Warsaw, to speak to a young man

:25:09. > :25:13.She's lived in Poole for the last seven years.

:25:14. > :25:15.Until four months ago, she worked in a food

:25:16. > :25:20.When United Kingdom opened the job market in 2004,

:25:21. > :25:23.we thought it will be good chance to improve our life.

:25:24. > :25:25.But we didn't aim to come here to live on benefits,

:25:26. > :25:28.to have everything for free, to beg on the street

:25:29. > :25:32.No, we were prepared to come here, work hard and be normal

:25:33. > :25:41.And we are very pleased to be integrated with Brits.

:25:42. > :25:49.Brits, they don't want to integrate with us, because they think

:25:50. > :25:54.we are invaders and we want to take something from them.

:25:55. > :25:59.No, we don't want to take, we want to give.

:26:00. > :26:11.Brexit has got her thinking about uprooting her family.

:26:12. > :26:17.When we've heard the news about Brexit, we started

:26:18. > :26:27.Do we see ourselves here, especially raising children?

:26:28. > :26:30.Do we want them to be raised in a country where they will be

:26:31. > :26:38.For example, I have a friend, she's a teacher in a primary school,

:26:39. > :26:40.and one child told her, "Go back to your country,

:26:41. > :26:47.I'm not sure I want this future for my child.

:26:48. > :26:50.And, of course, I live in a very safe area.

:26:51. > :26:53.And I can't say anything bad about people here

:26:54. > :26:57.in the area where I live, but there is this

:26:58. > :27:03.thought, do we really want to stay here?

:27:04. > :27:10.He moved back to Poland two months ago after working as a cleaner

:27:11. > :27:16.TRANSLATION: In general, you could feel that Polish people

:27:17. > :27:21.That was the outcome of the referendum.

:27:22. > :27:24.People were teasing Polish workers, not accusing them, saying they took

:27:25. > :27:33.But everybody knew the English wouldn't do the jobs we were doing.

:27:34. > :27:36.So, in fact, nobody was stealing the jobs.

:27:37. > :27:46.It's possible that I will return to the UK one day.

:27:47. > :27:55.Here to talk more about this is Joanna Mludzinska, the chair

:27:56. > :27:58.of the Polish Cultural Committee in Hammersmith, and Baroness Sarah

:27:59. > :28:01.Ludford who speaks on Europe for the Lib Dems in the House

:28:02. > :28:09.of Lords, and Kuba Kurpanik in Aberdeen who's a businessman.

:28:10. > :28:18.Thank you all very much for joining us. Do you feel a valued part of the

:28:19. > :28:24.community? The people we were talking to in our report really do

:28:25. > :28:28.not. Obviously I am born here, so I have been part of the British

:28:29. > :28:37.community all my life. But particularly in London there is not

:28:38. > :28:42.that same feeling. Certainly in our Polish Association, you remember we

:28:43. > :28:48.had graffiti a couple of days after Brexit and we had the most fantastic

:28:49. > :28:52.response from the community with people coming in with flowers and

:28:53. > :28:57.cards and several hundred e-mails from all over Britain saying, we are

:28:58. > :29:03.sorry this has happened. I do not think you feel that so much in

:29:04. > :29:09.London, but it is very sad that people in your film have felt this,

:29:10. > :29:17.that they want to go back. Are you coming across many who feel that

:29:18. > :29:21.way? No, I do not think I have come across that many people who think

:29:22. > :29:26.that in Britain. People think differently. Some people have been

:29:27. > :29:29.here for ten or 12 years and they are settled and their families are

:29:30. > :29:34.here and their children are going to school and they want to stay. Other

:29:35. > :29:41.people, like that young man, they have only been here for two years

:29:42. > :29:47.and it is not the same, so he will go home. But it is very sad that

:29:48. > :29:52.people should take what comes from one or two people, the minority, as

:29:53. > :29:58.the feeling of the British public as a whole because I do not think that

:29:59. > :30:03.is true. It is certain individuals, and I know that can be very hurtful

:30:04. > :30:08.if somebody says directly to you, why don't you go home? We voted for

:30:09. > :30:12.you to go home. But I think people should think about the fact that the

:30:13. > :30:18.majority of the British public do not feel like that. What we need is

:30:19. > :30:22.a government statement to say, they will not be sent home and they will

:30:23. > :30:25.be welcome and we have not had that yet.

:30:26. > :30:32.Liberal Democrats, including other politicians, believe that it would

:30:33. > :30:38.be both economically and morally the right thing to do for the Government

:30:39. > :30:43.to say that EU migrants who are legally resident here will be able

:30:44. > :30:47.to stay post-Brexit, and for the Government to say, we're going to

:30:48. > :30:51.use these people as a bargaining chip in Brexit negotiations, or as

:30:52. > :31:00.Liam Fox, trade Secretary, has said, we are going to play this card, it

:31:01. > :31:04.is both economically unintelligent, because such a big contribution is

:31:05. > :31:11.made and also that economic sectors, and very much so in the NHS and in

:31:12. > :31:15.social care, but also it is morally wrong to leave people in limbo,

:31:16. > :31:21.unsure. It is part of the whole Brexit uncertainty, if you like, so

:31:22. > :31:26.it doesn't fill me with humanity and decency to have all this up in the.

:31:27. > :31:31.But also remember it is a two way street, because there are a couple

:31:32. > :31:34.of million Brits living in other EU countries who are in a similar state

:31:35. > :31:41.of uncertainty. If the British Government were able to give that

:31:42. > :31:45.unilateral guarantee, we would inject that degree of certainty

:31:46. > :31:54.which are both economically and morally right. As a Pole living here

:31:55. > :31:58.in the aftermath of Brexit, what is your perspective on all of this?

:31:59. > :32:05.Good morning, first of all, thanks for having me. What I think is that

:32:06. > :32:12.it is the uncertainty which is the main thing, I would say. As a

:32:13. > :32:16.people, we're a normal people, we have plans, and we would love to

:32:17. > :32:20.have plans for our future as well, and without knowing what is going to

:32:21. > :32:28.happen with, you know, the Brexit issue, we are not able to make good

:32:29. > :32:30.plans for us. This impacts for like self-development or how our

:32:31. > :32:36.companies will develop in the future, all very simple things, like

:32:37. > :32:40.having a car loan, or getting a mortgage for your family. Those kind

:32:41. > :32:45.of questions, we are asking ourselves if those decisions are

:32:46. > :32:50.good for us, because we're not sure what is going to happen in the next

:32:51. > :32:54.year or two or three. We have no information what it is going to be

:32:55. > :32:59.like after the Brexit. That is the main thing, I think. How does it

:33:00. > :33:07.make you feel, then? Does it make you feel sure about staying here?

:33:08. > :33:13.Well, I think it is more about... Let me start by saying I am very

:33:14. > :33:17.grateful, you know, I have this ability to be here and work here and

:33:18. > :33:22.be part of this community, be part of the United Kingdom in the first

:33:23. > :33:27.place, and I am making a lot, getting very much from you as well,

:33:28. > :33:31.and that is why I think it is very important to understand that we are

:33:32. > :33:39.creating, we are giving something to you as well. And it was not actually

:33:40. > :33:43.good for us, for me and my family, for a couple of days after the

:33:44. > :33:46.Brexit referendum, because we were so uncertain about what was going to

:33:47. > :33:53.happen, whether we will be kicked out or not. I am here only two

:33:54. > :33:57.years, so I am not entitled to apply for British citizenship. I was not

:33:58. > :34:02.sure about that. We have kids, and they are going here to school. They

:34:03. > :34:07.are having friends as well. If we will be asked to move, it will make

:34:08. > :34:13.an impact for our kids as well, and we were thinking about this as well

:34:14. > :34:18.- this is so unfair, because we are trying, as Poles, we are trying to

:34:19. > :34:22.follow the rules that are here, we are trying very hard to integrate

:34:23. > :34:28.ourselves as far as possible following your rules. And from this

:34:29. > :34:33.point, not knowing what is going to happen just makes us feel that it is

:34:34. > :34:35.a bit unfair. Thank you very much for joining us, thank you. Let's

:34:36. > :34:41.catch up with the news with Annita. The NHS is falling well short

:34:42. > :34:44.of its target for recovering the cost of treating

:34:45. > :34:46.overseas patients in England, The National Audit Office suggests

:34:47. > :34:50.the health service will lose out which could mostly be claimed back

:34:51. > :34:53.from European governments. In a report, it highlights wide

:34:54. > :34:56.variations between health trusts of who should be billed

:34:57. > :35:01.for healthcare. The Royal Bank of Scotland has

:35:02. > :35:04.announced a loss of ?469 million in the three months

:35:05. > :35:05.from July to September, more than double

:35:06. > :35:07.the amount expected. The bank received a ?45.5 billion

:35:08. > :35:10.bailout during the financial crisis and is still largely

:35:11. > :35:14.owned by the Government. RBS also confirmed it

:35:15. > :35:16.will miss next year's deadline for the sale of its

:35:17. > :35:18.Williams Glyn branches but says it's still in the process

:35:19. > :35:27.of transforming the bank. The Government has denied that

:35:28. > :35:33.Nissan was offered compensation to build two new models

:35:34. > :35:35.at its factory in Sunderland. Nissan says the company

:35:36. > :35:37.received no special deal, and the Business Secretary,

:35:38. > :35:42.Greg Clark, insisted there is

:35:43. > :35:43.no financial incentive. This morning the chair

:35:44. > :35:46.of a parliamentary group of MPs to appear before

:35:47. > :35:49.the Business Select Committee to explain what's been

:35:50. > :35:51.said to the car maker in terms of the support and

:35:52. > :35:54.assurances it said it received. in a fire in a shed

:35:55. > :35:58.in South Yorkshire. South Yorkshire Police said

:35:59. > :36:01.the body of a 13-year-old boy was found in the shed in Campsall

:36:02. > :36:03.near Doncaster Firefighters were called

:36:04. > :36:08.to the blaze last night. Formal identification

:36:09. > :36:11.has not yet taken place, and a joint investigation between

:36:12. > :36:13.the South Yorkshire Fire Service and police is under way

:36:14. > :36:23.to establish the cause of the fire. join me for BBC Newsroom

:36:24. > :36:29.live at 11 o'clock. It's been a brilliant last hour

:36:30. > :36:32.for England's cricketers in Dhaka. After a slow start,

:36:33. > :36:42.they've reduced Bangladesh to 231-7. Moeen Ali led the fightback,

:36:43. > :36:48.taking three wickets. Andy Murray's reached

:36:49. > :36:49.the quarterfinals after a three-set win

:36:50. > :36:55.over Gilles Simon. It takes Murray's unbeaten run

:36:56. > :37:04.to 12 matches. He is trying to close in on the

:37:05. > :37:09.world number one spot, that could happen at the Paris Masters next

:37:10. > :37:11.week if Novak Djokovic does not make it to the semifinals.

:37:12. > :37:13.Drug testing at the Rio Olympics had serious failings,

:37:14. > :37:15.according to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

:37:16. > :37:16.Independent observers reported many athletes targeted

:37:17. > :37:19.And Formula One is in Mexico this weekend,

:37:20. > :37:23.into the spirit of the local Day of the Dead celebrations.

:37:24. > :37:25.The title could be decided this weekend.

:37:26. > :37:32.Nico Rosberg leads Lewis Hamilton by 26 points.

:37:33. > :37:36.More sport on the BBC News Channel throughout the day, Joanna.

:37:37. > :37:38.There's been a lot of talk about so-called health tourism,

:37:39. > :37:42.specifically to get free treatment on the NHS.

:37:43. > :37:44.But this morning, the national accountancy watchdog says

:37:45. > :37:46.there is a problem with the health service

:37:47. > :37:48.not getting paid for foreign patients.

:37:49. > :37:51.It's not health tourism necessarily, it's people who live here

:37:52. > :37:54.from the EU who get NHS care which can then be billed

:37:55. > :37:57.to the governments of their native countries.

:37:58. > :37:59.The trouble is we're not doing it enough, apparently,

:38:00. > :38:06.and that's ?150 million a year the NHS is losing.

:38:07. > :38:13.he's a professor of health economics at the University of York.

:38:14. > :38:24.Thank you very much for joining us. How clear and easy is the system?

:38:25. > :38:27.Well, it has changed over time. Basically, in April 2015, the

:38:28. > :38:31.Government introduced new arrangements will be covering the

:38:32. > :38:34.costs from people who were using the health service who were not resident

:38:35. > :38:40.in the UK. Some of those arrangements are pretty easy to

:38:41. > :38:43.implement and very difficult to Obeid, and most of the increase in

:38:44. > :38:49.funding that we have received from those arrangements. There are other

:38:50. > :38:54.arrangements that are more difficult to implement, so the ones that are

:38:55. > :38:58.easy, which have been easy to implement for those who are coming

:38:59. > :39:02.to the UK and will be staying here for more than six months. For those

:39:03. > :39:07.people, they have to pay an annual health surcharge to cover the

:39:08. > :39:12.expected costs of care while they are in the NHS. So when you apply

:39:13. > :39:16.for a visa, you have to pay ?200 for every year that you are going to be

:39:17. > :39:22.here, and you will not get your visa until you pay that money. So people

:39:23. > :39:25.have had to pay that, and that accounts for the majority of the

:39:26. > :39:30.increase in money that we now receive from people who use the NHS

:39:31. > :39:36.from overseas. For people here for less than six months, they do not

:39:37. > :39:40.pay a surcharge. There is not a visa for them. And it is those people

:39:41. > :39:45.that it is more difficult to get the money from. And they fall into two

:39:46. > :39:49.types. There are people from the European Economic Area, who have

:39:50. > :39:54.European Health Insurance Card, so when they go to hospital, they are

:39:55. > :39:58.asked to present their card, just as if we went to hospital in another

:39:59. > :40:04.European country, we have to present our card. And if you present the

:40:05. > :40:07.card, the hospital then has to take the details, and we then build the

:40:08. > :40:13.European country for the cost of their care. Other people from

:40:14. > :40:20.outside the European Union are asked to provide details of their address,

:40:21. > :40:24.and in the hospital then has to try to issue a bill to them for their

:40:25. > :40:29.care, and then we have to recover the costs, basically send them a

:40:30. > :40:33.bill and chase of payment. And it is those people, in particular, that it

:40:34. > :40:38.is going to be difficult to get the money back from. Is there much

:40:39. > :40:43.evidence of health tourism, people specifically coming here in order to

:40:44. > :40:48.use the NHS? It is very difficult to know the numbers of people who are

:40:49. > :40:53.from outside of the UK who are using the NHS, it is difficult to get the

:40:54. > :40:58.absolute numbers of non-residents using the NHS, and where they are

:40:59. > :41:02.from. And of those, what proportion are coming specifically to use the

:41:03. > :41:11.NHS? There are no details on people coming to live in to the UK for the

:41:12. > :41:16.sole purpose of using the NHS. It would be very difficult to get that

:41:17. > :41:19.information, short of anecdote, and there are no statistics on people

:41:20. > :41:26.coming here just for that sole purpose. People using the NHS who

:41:27. > :41:30.are from other countries, they have accidents, they are here for some

:41:31. > :41:37.period of time, and they fall ill and need to use the health service,

:41:38. > :41:41.it is those people that the arrangements are targeted at. Thank

:41:42. > :41:49.you very much for joining us, thank you. Thank you very much. Still to

:41:50. > :41:52.come, the social media app Vine is closing, we will speak to a police

:41:53. > :41:54.officer who has been using it to fight crime.

:41:55. > :41:57.This morning, MPs are debating whether councils should be forced

:41:58. > :42:00.They're deciding whether to change the law

:42:01. > :42:02.and make it compulsory for councils to offer accommodation

:42:03. > :42:04.to anyone who finds themselves without a home,

:42:05. > :42:06.regardless of whether they're seen a priority case.

:42:07. > :42:09.The idea was put forward by one MP who's concerned that

:42:10. > :42:14.those who aren't seen as high risk and vulnerable are being ignored.

:42:15. > :42:16.Government backing for the bill came amid concern over increasing levels

:42:17. > :42:20.of homelessness fuelled by housing shortages, rising rents,

:42:21. > :42:22.insecure tenancies and cuts to housing benefit.

:42:23. > :42:24.Last year we met one woman, Mateasa Grant,

:42:25. > :42:27.who, because she was single and over 18,

:42:28. > :42:36.was refused help by her local authority.

:42:37. > :42:47.and at the end of 2013 I found myself homeless.

:42:48. > :42:50.So I went to the local authority first thing in the morning,

:42:51. > :42:54.I was feeling quite confident that I'd be given the steps to get help.

:42:55. > :42:57.And the guy called me over, said, "So what are you doing here,

:42:58. > :43:01.then, to get yourself kicked out? What was it you done?"

:43:02. > :43:06.Straight away I'm on the back foot. I felt defensive.

:43:07. > :43:08.I don't want to tell this guy my story, because

:43:09. > :43:15.if he's laughing at that, where is this help really coming from?

:43:16. > :43:17.There's so much more I could tell you about my experience.

:43:18. > :43:19.I don't want to go into all the details,

:43:20. > :43:22.but I know I should have been given help,

:43:23. > :43:28.Well, unfortunately, we find that your experience,

:43:29. > :43:31.We sent undercover reporters into housing offices,

:43:32. > :43:35.and in our experience over half of them were sent away

:43:36. > :43:40.And this is the 21st century, and we're finding that people

:43:41. > :43:43.like you are being sent away to sleep on the streets

:43:44. > :43:46.even when you're clearly incredibly vulnerable.

:43:47. > :43:50.What should happened is, first of all, they should treat

:43:51. > :43:54.you like a human being and treat you with some courtesy.

:43:55. > :43:56.Then they should make an assessment of your needs

:43:57. > :44:00.to establish whether you're what they call priority need.

:44:01. > :44:02.And whether you're priority need or not, they should still provide

:44:03. > :44:10.you with advice and assistance in finding somewhere to stay.

:44:11. > :44:12.I decided to give local authorities a test

:44:13. > :44:18.by pretending to be homeless to see if this time they'd help me.

:44:19. > :44:21.I visited five local authorities across the country,

:44:22. > :44:25.but was treated differently in each place.

:44:26. > :44:32.You either are homeless or you're not.

:44:33. > :44:34.Every authority told me I wasn't a priority,

:44:35. > :44:38.Hearing it over and over was demoralising.

:44:39. > :44:48.Basically, you're not a priority need for us.

:44:49. > :44:50.In the end, none of the local authorities found me

:44:51. > :44:55.That means along with my own experiences of homelessness

:44:56. > :44:59.and wherever I've gone, I just wasn't a priority.

:45:00. > :45:02.I thought everyone would be considered a priority

:45:03. > :45:13.You have to be vulnerable, at the end of the day.

:45:14. > :45:16.Steve and Rebecca are currently homeless, they've been unable

:45:17. > :45:21.to find any accommodation they can afford.

:45:22. > :45:27.Andy Faris was homeless for six years,

:45:28. > :45:32.and says he struggled to get help from his local council.

:45:33. > :45:36.Maeve McGoldrick is from the homeless charity Crisis.

:45:37. > :45:38.And Councillor Ed Turner joins us from Birmingham,

:45:39. > :45:52.Thank you all very much for joining us. Stephen and Becky, I mention you

:45:53. > :45:58.had been living on the streets since February. Tell us about what

:45:59. > :46:06.happened. How did you end up on the streets? Basically it was a bad

:46:07. > :46:11.landlord. Well, it was a mistake agent basically. We had already been

:46:12. > :46:17.there for a whole year. Nothing wrong with it, no trouble, so as

:46:18. > :46:22.soon as we got a good reference to move on we moved out like we were

:46:23. > :46:26.supposed to, it was on time. A couple of days later someone else

:46:27. > :46:33.moved into the flat, so he lied to us. And left you with nowhere to go,

:46:34. > :46:41.trying to get help. What help did you get? Basically we went to our

:46:42. > :46:47.local council in Bournemouth. We didn't get help from them. They

:46:48. > :46:53.palmed us away and said we were not vulnerable enough and we could go to

:46:54. > :47:00.a doctor and get a sick note for anxiety and depression which both of

:47:01. > :47:10.us have. They would not help us, but they did not tell us there is a

:47:11. > :47:17.referral where you can be placed in past. We were on it for six months

:47:18. > :47:20.and I became quite ill. Then I was placed in an emergency

:47:21. > :47:29.bed-and-breakfast. At that stage you were more of a priority. She had to

:47:30. > :47:35.end up in hospital for them to help. Crisis works with the homeless. Is

:47:36. > :47:40.this a typical story that you hear? That people are not vulnerable

:47:41. > :47:46.enough to get help? Sadly it is and it is one of the reasons why Crisis

:47:47. > :47:53.was set up to help people get help from their local authority. Today

:47:54. > :47:57.this is being debated in the House of Commons and the Bill will seek to

:47:58. > :48:04.reform the legislation to address this problem. How would it work

:48:05. > :48:09.exactly? It would not force councils to find housing necessarily, but

:48:10. > :48:16.forced them to give good advice. At the moment we have a system, but not

:48:17. > :48:21.all local authorities are like this, some are more advanced, but you have

:48:22. > :48:26.a situation where you have a disparity of support depending on

:48:27. > :48:30.where you go for help. Quite often you fall under what is called

:48:31. > :48:36.priority need and you are more than likely to be turned away. Not even

:48:37. > :48:43.any basic advice? On occasions it could be an outdated leaflet, and

:48:44. > :48:48.number exist. There is very little support that can be received. But

:48:49. > :48:51.the bill is being discussed today and if it is passed, the changes

:48:52. > :48:55.will mean local authorities will have to offer more support to people

:48:56. > :49:01.if they become homeless, to help them secure somewhere. Would it put

:49:02. > :49:09.a financial burden on the local authorities? No, because it will

:49:10. > :49:13.bring in a prevention of duty, which will mean people have to engage with

:49:14. > :49:19.people for up to 56 days before they become homeless. In Wales there has

:49:20. > :49:26.been a 69% drop in homelessness acceptance because of this

:49:27. > :49:31.prevention activity. You are the Local Government Association Housing

:49:32. > :49:36.spokesperson. What do you think about local authorities being forced

:49:37. > :49:41.to give that sort of support by law? First of all counsellor, but as a

:49:42. > :49:47.human being, I feel very distressed to hear stories like those we have

:49:48. > :49:51.heard from Steve and Becky. It is something we are confronted with

:49:52. > :49:57.increasingly because homelessness is on the up. We have to see this as

:49:58. > :50:01.part of a bigger picture. There are many causes of homelessness. If this

:50:02. > :50:05.legislation goes through, it is important councils are given the

:50:06. > :50:14.tools to help people and that means access to property people can

:50:15. > :50:18.afford. We were hearing from Crisis saying it would not put a financial

:50:19. > :50:23.burden on local authorities and in the long run it saves money because

:50:24. > :50:27.it prevents people from becoming homeless, which makes you wonder why

:50:28. > :50:32.is guidance not being put out there? Why were Becky and Steve not given

:50:33. > :50:38.basic guidance? There are a couple of things. Some councils will go the

:50:39. > :50:42.extra mile to help people and this would give them extra duties which

:50:43. > :50:46.would bring an extra cost which would be funded by government. But

:50:47. > :50:51.the bigger picture is not the advice the councils give, it is how the

:50:52. > :50:55.councils help people into accommodation. In my own home city

:50:56. > :50:59.of Oxford I looked yesterday and there was not a single one-bedroom

:51:00. > :51:05.property or a shared house affordable to somebody on benefit.

:51:06. > :51:08.Additionally councils are required to sell off council property when

:51:09. > :51:14.they become available under new legislation. What we need is people

:51:15. > :51:20.on housing benefit has to be linked to what has it actually costs, so

:51:21. > :51:22.people can go somewhere that they can afford, and we need to build

:51:23. > :51:28.more housing that people can generally afford. How do you see

:51:29. > :51:33.this? You were homeless for five and a half years and you now help people

:51:34. > :51:38.with soup kitchens and classes. What do you think about the way people

:51:39. > :51:45.are prioritised? At the moment many of the service users we get and

:51:46. > :51:50.those we meet every day I not getting the help they should be. I

:51:51. > :51:54.find they are ignored by the councils, they are not giving the

:51:55. > :52:01.advice and the right advice. They are brushed off and they are told

:52:02. > :52:05.they are not eligible. Some of the people we met last night when we

:52:06. > :52:12.were serving food they have gone into councils and asked for advice

:52:13. > :52:19.and they are not prioritised in any way. It is always about funding or

:52:20. > :52:24.something or the other. We as human beings have a duty to look after

:52:25. > :52:31.other human beings. This is so wrong sometimes when somebody objects to a

:52:32. > :52:33.bill. Here we are debating in the second reading in the House of

:52:34. > :52:40.Commons today and we only require 100 MPs to back it. But we are

:52:41. > :52:45.debating whether it will go through or not. It is pretty sad that even

:52:46. > :52:54.people in high positions are not able to give that backing that we as

:52:55. > :53:00.charities look for. For the time we have been running our charity, we

:53:01. > :53:04.see the same thing year after year and we never get a good deal for

:53:05. > :53:11.homeless clients, they struggle every night. Every night it is a

:53:12. > :53:19.struggle. If not for people like me, it would be ten times like that, if

:53:20. > :53:24.it was not for people like you. The problem is it is going through a

:53:25. > :53:29.private members bill process and we need 100 MPs, it is fragile. Local

:53:30. > :53:35.authorities who are doing prevention well, this will make a huge

:53:36. > :53:42.difference to them. They want more than is currently in the bill. This

:53:43. > :53:50.is about increasing the standards of good quality prevention. How much

:53:51. > :53:57.has it gone down? In Wales we have had a reduction of 16% as a result

:53:58. > :54:03.of prevention. And as an impact we have seen a 16% drop in temporary

:54:04. > :54:10.accommodation which is a ?700,000 saving in Wales. London makes up 72%

:54:11. > :54:15.of temporary accommodation, and if you had that, you would make a

:54:16. > :54:23.saving of ?37 million, so prevention is really worth doing. Definitely.

:54:24. > :54:27.Every person going into a hostel, for example, it is costing the local

:54:28. > :54:33.government over ?9,000 a year to keep them in a very basic, dingy

:54:34. > :54:39.room. Big landlords are benefiting from this. It has been fantastic

:54:40. > :54:42.talking to you all and hearing your perspective. All the very best.

:54:43. > :54:45.Cheers. Twitter has axed its Vine

:54:46. > :54:47.video sharing service, not giving a reason,

:54:48. > :54:50.but yesterday the company announced it was cutting 9% of its workforce

:54:51. > :54:53.following slow growth The company's struggling

:54:54. > :54:55.to sign up new users and is facing strong competition

:54:56. > :54:57.from Instagram and Snapchat. The Vine video app, which has

:54:58. > :55:00.around 200 million users, was launched in 2012 and has been

:55:01. > :55:02.the platform for many short, Well, now let's look back at some

:55:03. > :55:06.of the weirdest, wackiest # Once I was seven years

:55:07. > :55:16.old, my mum told me... Do not stream or drive,

:55:17. > :55:19.or you'll be sorry. It would bring you two together

:55:20. > :55:27.pretty quickly if Bernie Sanders What brings us together is

:55:28. > :55:42.Donald Trump. I learned that the name

:55:43. > :55:45.Liberal Democats were "crats". I know his name is Nick Clegg,

:55:46. > :55:51.so I thought he was Nick Leg. I bet you only gave me this fine

:55:52. > :56:05.because you're on commission. # It's not about the

:56:06. > :56:08.money, money, money. # You're fighting for

:56:09. > :56:13.your life... You saw him a few moments ago,

:56:14. > :56:32.let's speak to PC Mark Walsh. He's a Hampshire policeman,

:56:33. > :56:35.or VineCop as he is known on the social-media site,

:56:36. > :56:45.who became an internet Thank you for joining us. Your

:56:46. > :56:50.talent will be wasted now. Not at all, this was only one method of

:56:51. > :56:54.communication and it does not replace our traditional one. I am

:56:55. > :56:59.still going to be here and show people my personality and we have to

:57:00. > :57:07.move with society. Why did you start doing it? Why will it with young

:57:08. > :57:12.people and for a while they were watching these and I thought, six

:57:13. > :57:16.seconds is a bit risky, and I dismissed it at first. But there is

:57:17. > :57:20.only so long you can dismiss it as if they are using it, I thought it

:57:21. > :57:31.is important for us to use it as well. What difference has made? It

:57:32. > :57:35.is a maze amazing, I can be accessible and for most young people

:57:36. > :57:40.it is their major form of communication and they are more

:57:41. > :57:45.likely to engage with me. I have walked through playgrounds and

:57:46. > :57:50.people had shouted at me and it has started a dialogue. There was one

:57:51. > :57:55.occasion when I was in the gym, yes, I do go, when an old lady came into

:57:56. > :57:59.the changing room by accident as she recognised me and she said, my kids

:58:00. > :58:05.always go on about vying, I cannot believe I have recognised it. Has it

:58:06. > :58:10.been about engaging with the people in your community rather than you

:58:11. > :58:17.becoming a popular face? Absolutely, for me my objective is to be a cop

:58:18. > :58:22.first and then get the entertainment element. We combine the educational

:58:23. > :58:27.message with entertainment and that is more likely to be received rather

:58:28. > :58:34.than being officious and saying, do not drink and drive. How do you

:58:35. > :58:35.reach people? Thank you so much for joining us.