31/10/2016

:00:07. > :00:08.Hello, it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:09. > :00:13.Our top story today, the American election gets nasty.

:00:14. > :00:17.With just days to go till the nation decides between Hillary Clinton

:00:18. > :00:20.and Donald Trump, leading democrats say the head of the FBI may

:00:21. > :00:24.have broken the law, by announcing a new inquiry into

:00:25. > :00:41.The FBI is reopening the investigation into the criminal and

:00:42. > :00:47.illegal conduct of Hillary Clinton. Voters deserve to get full and

:00:48. > :00:51.complete facts. And so we called an director James Comey to explain

:00:52. > :00:55.everything right away, put it all out on the table.

:00:56. > :00:57.Also on the programme, are drug fix rooms, where addicts

:00:58. > :00:59.can inject heroin safely, a good idea?

:01:00. > :01:05.Glasgow's likely to give the go, ahead to one later today.

:01:06. > :01:10.These services are compassionate, they are evidence -based, they are

:01:11. > :01:14.low threshold and give people back some dignity and respect.

:01:15. > :01:16.We'll hear from heroin addicts and drug campaigners,

:01:17. > :01:18.and we're really keen to hear your views.

:01:19. > :01:19.Plus, do schools fail adopted children?

:01:20. > :01:22.If you've adopted a child we're really keen to hear your experience

:01:23. > :01:39.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11:00am.

:01:40. > :01:42.Throughout the morning we'll bring you the latest breaking news

:01:43. > :01:44.and developing stories and, as always, really keen

:01:45. > :01:47.A little later we'll talk to the Labour MP who's

:01:48. > :01:49.campaigning against the cost of children's funerals.

:01:50. > :01:53.Carolyn Harris had to borrow money and take out a loan to pay for her 8

:01:54. > :01:55.year old sons funeral after he was killed

:01:56. > :01:58.She's talking for the first time about her experience.

:01:59. > :02:02.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning,

:02:03. > :02:05.use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:02:06. > :02:09.The FBI is being asked to explain its decision to examine

:02:10. > :02:11.new evidence in relation to Hillary Clinton's

:02:12. > :02:14.use of a private email server when she was the US

:02:15. > :02:20.The leader of the Democratic Party in the US Senate, has said the head

:02:21. > :02:25.of the FBI may have broken the law by releasing details

:02:26. > :02:28.of a new investigation linked to a staffer Mrs Clinton.

:02:29. > :02:35.With the polls tightening, the Clinton campaign is mounting

:02:36. > :02:38.a fierce fightback against the FBI's decision to reveal it was looking

:02:39. > :02:44.at a fresh batch of emails related to the investigation

:02:45. > :02:46.into Hillary Clinton's private server.

:02:47. > :02:49.Her officials are pointing to the fact that the Department

:02:50. > :02:51.of Justice warned the FBI against disclosing that they were

:02:52. > :02:55.looking at a potentially new trove of emails.

:02:56. > :02:58.Hillary Clinton believes it is both strange and troubling to talk

:02:59. > :03:03.about the new inquiry so close to polling day.

:03:04. > :03:06.There's a lot of noise and distraction but it really comes

:03:07. > :03:09.down to what kind of future we want and who as our president

:03:10. > :03:15.The Democrats are pointing out that no one knows whether this latest

:03:16. > :03:17.batch contains new emails or classified information.

:03:18. > :03:19.The FBI director James Comey has repeatedly been attacked

:03:20. > :03:22.by the Republicans for closing the Clinton case in July,

:03:23. > :03:27.despite describing her handling of secret information as reckless.

:03:28. > :03:30.The Clinton campaign is demanding that the FBI

:03:31. > :03:34.explain its decision to reveal that it was reopening

:03:35. > :03:40.Why would you break these two protocols?

:03:41. > :03:43.Why would you release information that is so incomplete

:03:44. > :03:46.when you haven't even seen the material yourself?

:03:47. > :03:49.11 days before an election, why would you talk about

:03:50. > :03:54.Ladies and gentlemen, the next and first female President

:03:55. > :04:01.of the United States, Hillary Clinton!

:04:02. > :04:03.Hillary Clinton, like her opponent, is investing large swathes

:04:04. > :04:09.With an eye to appealing to the Hispanic community,

:04:10. > :04:12.she shared a stage with Jennifer Lopez in Miami.

:04:13. > :04:15.But there are early indications that this

:04:16. > :04:17.new investigation is chipping away at Hillary Clinton's

:04:18. > :04:23.The Clinton campaign's complaint is that the FBI statement was long

:04:24. > :04:26.on innuendo and short on facts and it's opened the doors

:04:27. > :04:33.for Donald Trump to accuse her of criminal and illegal activity.

:04:34. > :04:35.These are anxious days for Hillary Clinton.

:04:36. > :04:40.Just days ago, her team believed victory was almost in its grasp.

:04:41. > :04:44.Gavin Hewitt, BBC News, Florida.

:04:45. > :04:48.We can get more now from our correspondent, Daniella Relph,

:04:49. > :04:56.how could the FBI have broken the law?

:04:57. > :05:02.This claim about breaking the law has come from one of the most senior

:05:03. > :05:07.Democrat politicians in the US, Harry Reid. He is a political

:05:08. > :05:11.veteran, he is 77, he seen it all. He is head of the Democrats in the

:05:12. > :05:14.Senate and comes at this as a Hillary Clinton supporter. He's

:05:15. > :05:19.written to the head of the FBI James Comey and said he believes he's had

:05:20. > :05:23.double standards and is trying to favour one political party over the

:05:24. > :05:28.other. He said he believes the head of the FBI has violated a law which

:05:29. > :05:32.bans officials from getting involved in the vote and outcome of an

:05:33. > :05:36.election. In his letter Harry Reid has written to James Comey and said

:05:37. > :05:42."Through your partisan actions you have broken the law". You have this

:05:43. > :05:46.situation eight days before an election, one of the most senior

:05:47. > :05:50.Democrats in the country accusing the FBI of trying to influence the

:05:51. > :05:55.election. In the backdrop you have this Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal.

:05:56. > :06:01.There are now these two key figures involved in this and they are former

:06:02. > :06:05.congressmen Anthony Wiener and his wife who is very much Hillary

:06:06. > :06:10.Clinton's right-hand woman. They are at the centre of this, a political

:06:11. > :06:15.power coupled with great careers ahead of them. Anthony Wiener has

:06:16. > :06:21.had some sex scandals. His marriage, his political career is over but it

:06:22. > :06:30.is his laptop at the centre of this latest e-mail allegations. That is

:06:31. > :06:33.at the centre of the investigation. There could be more than 600,000

:06:34. > :06:35.e-mails to go through so this isn't going to be resolved by next

:06:36. > :06:38.Tuesday. Thank you. Plenty more reaction on this to come

:06:39. > :06:41.throughout the programme. Annita is in the BBC

:06:42. > :06:43.Newsroom with a summary A group of MPs says the Government's

:06:44. > :06:48.claim that it's putting an extra 10 billion pounds into the NHS over

:06:49. > :06:51.the next 5 years is incorrect. The Treasury insists

:06:52. > :06:55.it is investing that amount, but the Conservative Chair

:06:56. > :06:58.of the Commons Health Select Committee Dr Sarah Wollaston warns

:06:59. > :07:01.more money is needed to avoid Earlier this month at

:07:02. > :07:09.the Conservative Party conference, Theresa May proudly spoke

:07:10. > :07:13.about the extra ?10 billion she said her party was putting into the NHS

:07:14. > :07:19.over the next five years. But now a member of her own party

:07:20. > :07:21.and the influential chair of the Health Select Committee,

:07:22. > :07:24.Doctor Sarah Wollaston, In a strongly worded letter,

:07:25. > :07:29.she says the figure of ?10 She accuses the government of giving

:07:30. > :07:35.the false impression that the NHS And she says cuts from local

:07:36. > :07:43.government budgets for public health and social care are having a severe

:07:44. > :07:46.impact on the health service through increased

:07:47. > :07:47.emergency attendances By changing pots of money from one

:07:48. > :07:55.part of the health budget to another, for example taking money

:07:56. > :07:58.out of public health and health education,

:07:59. > :08:01.it can give an impression more is given when in fact the real

:08:02. > :08:05.figure is very considerably lower, and in the run, up to the spending

:08:06. > :08:09.review, as I have said, the point is we need to be very

:08:10. > :08:13.clear that the NHS and social care are in a serious financial

:08:14. > :08:17.crisis at the moment. Responding, the Treasury said

:08:18. > :08:20.the government had backed the NHS's plan for the future

:08:21. > :08:23.with a ?10 billion real terms increase in funding,

:08:24. > :08:26.and that it was wrong It also said local governments had

:08:27. > :08:32.access to the funding they needed While there is a disagreement

:08:33. > :08:37.about how much money is being put into the NHS,

:08:38. > :08:41.the pressures on it and the cost The Home Secretary Amber Rudd

:08:42. > :08:53.is expected to announce today whether she'll commission an inquiry

:08:54. > :08:56.into the clash between police and miners at Orgreave

:08:57. > :08:57.in South Yorkshire. It was the most violent

:08:58. > :08:59.confrontation of the More than 120 officers

:09:00. > :09:03.and miners were injured, Campaigners claim police

:09:04. > :09:08.used excessive force Thousands of people in Italy have

:09:09. > :09:17.spent the night sleeping in cars and tents after the country's

:09:18. > :09:22.biggest earthquake in 40 years. The 6.6-magnitude quake struck close

:09:23. > :09:24.to the region where nearly 300 people were killed by

:09:25. > :09:28.another quake in August. This time no one appears

:09:29. > :09:30.to have died, but around 20 Tremors were felt in the capital

:09:31. > :09:34.Rome, where the Metro system was shut down,

:09:35. > :09:36.and as far away as Venice Our correspondent Jenny Hill is in

:09:37. > :09:47.Norcia and sent us this update. There is widespread relief that no

:09:48. > :09:50.one was killed in yesterday's earthquake but villages and towns

:09:51. > :09:52.have been all but destroyed You can see this building behind me,

:09:53. > :09:56.clearly it was somebody's home. We're able to stare straight

:09:57. > :09:58.into the dining room. Rather remarkably, actually I don't

:09:59. > :10:00.know if you can see, framed pictures on the walls

:10:01. > :10:03.which haven't moved at all during what's been the strongest

:10:04. > :10:05.earthquake in decades to hit this This morning people

:10:06. > :10:10.are waking up in tents. No one is allowed inside the ancient

:10:11. > :10:16.town walls here because the firefighters we've been

:10:17. > :10:19.to speaking to this morning say it's In fact, the authorities are urging

:10:20. > :10:26.people who live in Norcia and the towns and villages around it

:10:27. > :10:29.to leave the area, to take emergency accommodation miles away

:10:30. > :10:31.on the Adriatic coast and that's because experts predict

:10:32. > :10:33.there will be more earthquakes We've actually felt some ourselves

:10:34. > :10:53.this morning and the ground ready shakes, and we can hear bits

:10:54. > :10:56.of masonry falling off the buildings Very dangerous of course

:10:57. > :10:59.for the emergency services who were told are still inside the city

:11:00. > :11:02.was going to the buildings trying to make sure that no one is trapped

:11:03. > :11:06.inside still but as I say, the authorities tell us,

:11:07. > :11:09.as far as they are aware, no one was killed although there are many,

:11:10. > :11:11.many question marks for people in towns like this

:11:12. > :11:13.about what happens now. It may be sometime before they can

:11:14. > :11:18.return to them if they ever want to. A lot of fear here this morning,

:11:19. > :11:21.of course, lots of questions for the Italian government to answer

:11:22. > :11:23.too about how to make sure that future earthquakes don't

:11:24. > :11:25.devastate towns and villages Changes to the way disabled people

:11:26. > :11:30.are assessed for out of work benefits have been outlined

:11:31. > :11:32.by the government. The measures, set out

:11:33. > :11:34.in a consultation document, include a review of statutory sick

:11:35. > :11:37.pay and GP "fit notes" to encourage people who receive Employment

:11:38. > :11:39.and Support Allowance to make Disability charities have warned

:11:40. > :11:43.that some people may not be able to work, no matter how much

:11:44. > :11:50.support they receive. A plan to set up so-called "fix

:11:51. > :11:53.rooms" to allow drug addicts to inject safely under supervision

:11:54. > :11:56.is likely to get the go, Members of the health board,

:11:57. > :11:59.the local authority and police are expected to agree

:12:00. > :12:02.to the idea in principle. These clinics have been

:12:03. > :12:04.running successfully across Europe for decades,

:12:05. > :12:06.but this will be the first time That's a summary of the latest BBC

:12:07. > :12:24.News. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:12:25. > :12:36.News, more at 9:30am. What do you think about these six

:12:37. > :12:40.rooms? Gemma on Facebook says "Addicts need to be loved and cared

:12:41. > :12:45.for and treated with the same respect that we treat everyone

:12:46. > :12:53.with". Anthony says "As long as there is support for the addicts

:12:54. > :12:57.then I guess it's a good idea." Adrian says "It's working in other

:12:58. > :13:00.countries and must be a positive step.

:13:01. > :13:02.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning,

:13:03. > :13:05.use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:13:06. > :13:08.Let's get some sport with Olly Foster.

:13:09. > :13:11.Olly, another win for Lewis Hamilton but he's left it

:13:12. > :13:22.He was a bit downbeat after his win in the Mexican Grand Prix yesterday.

:13:23. > :13:26.Still 19 points behind his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg who was

:13:27. > :13:30.second in Mexico City. That means he only needs to finish second or third

:13:31. > :13:35.in the next two races, there's only two races left of the season.

:13:36. > :13:42.Hamilton started on pole position pretty untroubled but Rosberg could

:13:43. > :13:46.win it in a fortnight in Brazil, then there is Abu Dhabi after that.

:13:47. > :13:48.Hamilton has sort of conceded the title but he'll give it ago, he says

:13:49. > :13:55.say never. It's all looking very tight

:13:56. > :14:04.at the top of the Premier League? It's difficult to call at this early

:14:05. > :14:11.stage. There's only one point separating the top four teams.

:14:12. > :14:15.Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool. Chelsea, difficult to believe how

:14:16. > :14:19.awful they were last season, they were champions two seasons ago and

:14:20. > :14:25.it seems they have discovered that championship winning form. They beat

:14:26. > :14:34.Southampton 2-0 and have got 22 points, double the amount at the

:14:35. > :14:38.same stage last season. Even -- Eden Hazard scored a great goal and they

:14:39. > :14:40.are up to fourth and in the title mix as well. Everton were winners as

:14:41. > :14:42.well yesterday beating West Ham. Andy Murray could be world number

:14:43. > :14:52.one a week from now? He has had an incredible season.

:14:53. > :14:55.Seven titles to his name. He's won three in a row and beat Jo-Wilfried

:14:56. > :15:00.Tsonga in straight sets yesterday after winning in Shanghai and

:15:01. > :15:02.Beijing. The way this ranking system works is it's on a rolling 12 month

:15:03. > :15:13.period. Novak Djokovic is dropping points

:15:14. > :15:17.which means if Andy Murray wins in Paris, the masters event next week

:15:18. > :15:20.which has a lot of ranking points going there, and Novak Djokovic does

:15:21. > :15:24.not reach the final, he was beaten in the final last year, when

:15:25. > :15:29.everything is recalibrated on Sunday evening, Andy Murray would become

:15:30. > :15:33.number one before they go into the world tour finals in London. An

:15:34. > :15:39.incredible year could be capped if he becomes world number one. Let's

:15:40. > :15:45.hope for that. Cycling. So Bradley Wiggins. What has he been up to? He

:15:46. > :15:48.has been racing in London alongside his team-mate Mark Cavendish. They

:15:49. > :15:53.were runners-up for the Belgian pair and he said he will retire after the

:15:54. > :15:58.six-day event which starts on November 15. He really has enjoyed

:15:59. > :16:03.himself at the old Olympic stadium in London over the last six days. He

:16:04. > :16:08.joked with the crowd he might carry on because his loving it so much

:16:09. > :16:13.that he is 36 now and he is very, very unlikely to do so. We will see

:16:14. > :16:21.how he gets on in a fortnight with Mark Cavendish racing together again

:16:22. > :16:24.against... Where Bradley begins was born, where it all started. Coming

:16:25. > :16:26.full circle. Thank you. Officials in Glasgow are today

:16:27. > :16:28.expected to give their initial backing to a controversial plan

:16:29. > :16:31.to set up so, called "fix rooms" or "shooting galleries" where drug

:16:32. > :16:33.addicts could inject heroin There are plans to open the UK's

:16:34. > :16:41.first fix room in Glasgow. It's a place where users can take

:16:42. > :16:44.dangerous drugs like heroin under It's estimated there are around 5000

:16:45. > :16:53.heroin users in Glasgow. Of those, up to 500 inject

:16:54. > :16:57.themselves in public places. Fix rooms are also called safe

:16:58. > :17:01.injecting centres and their main aim is to reduce the risk of death,

:17:02. > :17:07.overdose and transmitting disease. They are also places where high risk

:17:08. > :17:10.drug users can connect The addicts bring their own supplies

:17:11. > :17:18.of the drugs but nurses and social workers are on stand,

:17:19. > :17:23.by if something goes wrong. workers are on standby if something

:17:24. > :17:24.goes wrong. The police in these areas have taken

:17:25. > :17:27.the decision not to These so-called clinics have been

:17:28. > :17:35.running across Europe for decades. Copenhagen in Denmark is home

:17:36. > :17:38.to a large drugs scene and there ne of these fixing rooms

:17:39. > :17:40.was set up in 2013. At the time, police said

:17:41. > :17:43.the introduction of the facility led to a reduction in crime and fewer

:17:44. > :17:47.fights between addicts. This area used to be

:17:48. > :17:50.littered with syringes. Social workers say they regularly

:17:51. > :17:52.picked up several hundred every day. But since the drug consumption

:17:53. > :17:55.room opened a year ago, We are concerned this may mean that

:17:56. > :18:04.more people continue to use drugs and there will be more

:18:05. > :18:11.dealing in the area. Because heroin users need bits

:18:12. > :18:13.of kit like needles and syringes, heroin can be

:18:14. > :18:15.a public health problem. Last year there was a reported spike

:18:16. > :18:18.in HIV infections in Glasgow, which authorities said was down

:18:19. > :18:22.to heroin addicts sharing needles. If it opens, Glasgow's new fixing

:18:23. > :18:26.room would be the first of its kind in the UK, but the details must be

:18:27. > :18:29.first worked out including how much the facility would cost,

:18:30. > :18:32.where it would be situated, The Drug and Alcohol Partnership

:18:33. > :18:56.in Glasgow is expected Daniel on Facebook said, my sister

:18:57. > :19:00.died in 2001 due to heroin. The safest way to prevent these

:19:01. > :19:04.tragedies is not to use it at all. Louise on Facebook, this makes drug

:19:05. > :19:08.use more acceptable and palatable. Next they will say we need to make

:19:09. > :19:10.it legal or downgraded legally. Wrong, we need to stamp it out. It

:19:11. > :19:12.is not acceptable. We can speak now to Niamh Eastwood,

:19:13. > :19:15.from the charity Release, which provides expertise on drugs

:19:16. > :19:18.and drugs law, she wants to see these fix rooms across the UK,

:19:19. > :19:21.Chip Somers, a former heroin addict, who thinks the clinics

:19:22. > :19:35.would be a waste of money. Thank you all for coming in. Tell us

:19:36. > :19:40.why you support the rooms. We have a lot of evidence of the positive

:19:41. > :19:47.effects of drug consumption, safer injecting facilities, which is what

:19:48. > :19:52.the term is, rather than fix rooms. The first set up in Switzerland.

:19:53. > :19:59.1996. With the evidence from 90 clinics around the world, millions

:20:00. > :20:03.of episodes of injecting, and not one drug-related death, not one

:20:04. > :20:06.overdose fatality. At the moment, in England and Wales and across the UK,

:20:07. > :20:12.we have the highest rates of drug-related deaths on record, one

:20:13. > :20:18.of the highest in Western Europe. People are dying because of heroin

:20:19. > :20:21.and morphine. 107% increase in the number of drug-related deaths in the

:20:22. > :20:27.last three years, related to heroin, a crisis, which needs a pragmatic

:20:28. > :20:34.evidence -based response and the reality is drug consumption rooms

:20:35. > :20:38.are a way to reduce drug-related deaths, overdoses and fatalities. In

:20:39. > :20:43.Vancouver, when they introduced it in the late 90s, they saw a 35%

:20:44. > :20:49.reduction in overdose fatalities. That's what we want to see.

:20:50. > :20:55.Facilities policies, programmes, to save people's lives and this is what

:20:56. > :20:58.this proposal by Glasgow which should be applauded, can do. You can

:20:59. > :21:04.save lives and unabashedly against that. You are against this. You're

:21:05. > :21:10.not persuaded by that argument? Unfortunately not. She is a

:21:11. > :21:13.supporter of drugs and decriminalisation and that's what is

:21:14. > :21:18.being proposed here. Your piece referred to 5000 problem users in

:21:19. > :21:22.Glasgow but the actual number could be three times that so this centre

:21:23. > :21:27.could attract thousands of drug users to it but the idea this is a

:21:28. > :21:30.proposal to save lives, that's precisely the rationale used to

:21:31. > :21:36.develop a national methadone programme, to distribute thousands

:21:37. > :21:39.of needles, to distribute the reversal drugs and we've not seen

:21:40. > :21:46.any reduction in drug-related deaths in Scotland, a steady rise instead.

:21:47. > :21:51.If you leave drug use in the lives of addicts, it causes chaos. We need

:21:52. > :21:55.services not enabling users to use these substances but enabling them

:21:56. > :22:00.to get off drugs and when we survey Dover 1200 drug users, less than 5%

:22:01. > :22:05.said they wanted help to use drugs with a greater degree of safety. The

:22:06. > :22:08.vast majority said they wanted to get off drugs. We have services

:22:09. > :22:13.refusing to acknowledge the voices of drug users themselves. That's

:22:14. > :22:16.what we should be doing, having facilities dedicated to helping drug

:22:17. > :22:23.users recover rather than proposing a means where they can use drugs

:22:24. > :22:27.more easily. You are a former heroin addict. You now help people to get

:22:28. > :22:31.off drugs. Do you agree with what you're hearing here about people not

:22:32. > :22:35.wanting to be told how to use it safely but to be told how to get off

:22:36. > :22:39.it? Most people using drugs don't want to use drugs, they want to stop

:22:40. > :22:44.using drugs. I wouldn't have used one when I was using because when I

:22:45. > :22:52.had my drugs I want to get home as quickly as possible, enjoyed in my

:22:53. > :22:56.own home, and just be Private. Yes, of course, there were things which

:22:57. > :23:00.went wrong and I'm in favour of anything that helps reduce the

:23:01. > :23:04.numbers of deaths for young people using drugs. My problem with this is

:23:05. > :23:11.the expense it's going to be to run a facility like this, I think around

:23:12. > :23:15.?200,000 plus, an awful lot of people through a rehab programme and

:23:16. > :23:19.getting them out of the system. My concern about this is the cost at a

:23:20. > :23:23.time when people are finding it incredibly difficult to get into

:23:24. > :23:26.rehab, get support. The empathetic approach which will be taken by the

:23:27. > :23:32.people who work within these drug rooms should be given to people who

:23:33. > :23:35.are currently receiving methadone and other support. At the moment,

:23:36. > :23:39.they are lucky if they see their drug worker for 20 minutes every

:23:40. > :23:43.three weeks and that's where we should put the money rather than in

:23:44. > :23:48.an enterprise like this. I don't think this is either or argument.

:23:49. > :23:58.It's about making sure we have a system in place. Its money spent on

:23:59. > :24:02.this, not being spent on rehab. In terms of cost, the evidence across

:24:03. > :24:06.the world show there are cost savings associated with this policy.

:24:07. > :24:12.The reality for a lot of people, accessing this, they are often

:24:13. > :24:21.marginalised, using on the streets often, so what happens is that they

:24:22. > :24:29.experience an overdose on the street, suffer from related

:24:30. > :24:33.injuries, so have to be taken to hospital by ambulance, and money

:24:34. > :24:37.could be saved in terms of reducing the costs associated with that. What

:24:38. > :24:43.about the long run but people are going to these places? Is there any

:24:44. > :24:46.evidence to show they are getting off drugs? Yes, this is hard to

:24:47. > :24:51.reach groups so we have them coming into a formal setting, where they

:24:52. > :24:58.can inject safely, they get access to social services and health care,

:24:59. > :25:01.and also a range of other really positive interventions. Evidence

:25:02. > :25:05.shows that it makes people much more likely to engage with treatment

:25:06. > :25:09.services if they have access to these drug consumption rooms. The

:25:10. > :25:15.evidence in this case is overwhelming for the positive nature

:25:16. > :25:21.of this. Does this persuade you? She's giving a misleading impression

:25:22. > :25:26.that this is a route to get drug users off drugs. If you set up a

:25:27. > :25:30.facility, which is there to enable drug users to bring in illegal drugs

:25:31. > :25:37.to the setting and use it, the idea that that is a catalyst to their

:25:38. > :25:41.recovery, it is at Lee misleading to present it in that way. There's

:25:42. > :25:45.plenty of evidence in this case, it is well-established. I didn't

:25:46. > :25:51.interrupt you, so please let me finish. Don't talk over each other.

:25:52. > :25:55.What about the evidence, though, because there has been 30 years

:25:56. > :25:59.experience, so why don't you believe there is evidence to show it needs

:26:00. > :26:03.to be coming off drugs? There is evidence you can attract drug users

:26:04. > :26:06.to those centres. There was no evidence that they become drug-free

:26:07. > :26:10.as a result of that contact. That is the problem with these initiatives.

:26:11. > :26:18.They are presented as an attractive way to make contact. I just want me

:26:19. > :26:27.to answer that. Is there hard evidence? It at the same people just

:26:28. > :26:31.coming back? There is hard evidence. Give me figures. The reduction in

:26:32. > :26:39.sharing equipment, so research from Switzerland for example shows there

:26:40. > :26:43.was a reduction of 70% of people accessing needles, and reducing

:26:44. > :26:49.their sharing of equipment. That stopping sharing not getting off

:26:50. > :26:54.drugs. It reduces it. It has to be the fundamental basis that a drug

:26:55. > :27:00.policy, the first step. Let reduce blood-borne viruses. There is

:27:01. > :27:04.evidence from Vancouver, an amazing project, the middle floor is where

:27:05. > :27:09.people can go and get substitute therapy, a rehab associated with it.

:27:10. > :27:15.But still no hard evidence of people coming off drugs? I haven't got the

:27:16. > :27:19.statistics. I'm not going to make it up, but what I will say is, from

:27:20. > :27:25.what we've seen across the world, that is what happens and if we had

:27:26. > :27:28.people stable, transitioning from injecting street heroin in a risky

:27:29. > :27:35.environment, onto a long-term prescribing regime of pharmaceutical

:27:36. > :27:39.heroin, that is positive. We are saving lives. I can't see why

:27:40. > :27:46.anybody objective is more important than saving people's lives. What is

:27:47. > :27:49.the litmus test for you? I presume these are people who are completely

:27:50. > :27:54.out of touch with all other services because they can't be using

:27:55. > :27:56.methadone and use heroin in consumption rooms. That would make a

:27:57. > :28:03.complete nonsense of the method don't prescribing system. I'm hoping

:28:04. > :28:06.it allows people who are no contact with the services to be in touch

:28:07. > :28:11.with some services that will be a good thing. -- methadone. I have a

:28:12. > :28:16.concern about the parlous state of the services being provided. This

:28:17. > :28:19.kind of support, introduction to rehab should already have been done

:28:20. > :28:24.with clients they are dealing with now and it has not been. But not

:28:25. > :28:28.everybody is ready for treatment. That's really important. When they

:28:29. > :28:32.get to a point where we have transitional points to get people

:28:33. > :28:40.into long-term treatment... People can be moved towards being ready.

:28:41. > :28:46.That work is not being done. In Scotland, we are failing to move our

:28:47. > :28:51.drug users off our existing national methadone programme into recovery.

:28:52. > :28:55.We have more added deaths linked to methadone in parts of Scotland than

:28:56. > :28:59.heroin. This was a programme which was advised it would enable drug

:29:00. > :29:02.users to move up illegal drugs and into recovery. We are failing on a

:29:03. > :29:09.massive scale without programme and if you repeat that situation here,

:29:10. > :29:12.we will do exactly the same. We are not supporting services dedicated to

:29:13. > :29:17.recovery and that's what we need to be doing. Some comments from people.

:29:18. > :29:22.Lynne is a clinical psychologist has left the NHS due to the tragic and

:29:23. > :29:26.funding issues. Drug addiction is a symptom of our society which we

:29:27. > :29:30.ignore rather than face head-on. Don't judge the addict, look at the

:29:31. > :29:34.facts for the alcohol is a significantly greater risk to the

:29:35. > :29:39.public receives little public disdain. Andrew on Facebook, as an

:29:40. > :29:42.ex-junkie, I'm pleased to see a step in the right direction. Addiction is

:29:43. > :29:48.not understood and needs be addressed. Six rooms, are they

:29:49. > :29:54.fixing or helping to continue the habit? Who pays? In terms of the

:29:55. > :29:57.messages being sent out, desert it send out a message that it is

:29:58. > :30:04.effectively the state saying it's OK to do this? -- six rooms. It's

:30:05. > :30:11.illegal drugs, isn't it? I don't think it should be about messages.

:30:12. > :30:15.-- fix rooms. Going back to what the evidence shows is from these drug

:30:16. > :30:18.consumption rooms globally if we know for example that rates of

:30:19. > :30:22.initiation, of introduction into heroin use are not linked to the

:30:23. > :30:26.drug consumption rooms, so the European monetary centre of drug

:30:27. > :30:34.abuse has specifically said we don't see the initiation of needle users.

:30:35. > :30:38.Our message has to be, how do we want to take some of those

:30:39. > :30:42.marginalised and excluded in society? I would want to give them

:30:43. > :30:45.compassion and dignity and with interventions which save lives and

:30:46. > :30:47.it's as simple as that. Thank you so much all of you for your time and

:30:48. > :31:00.your thoughts on this. Thank you. We'll be talking to those who run

:31:01. > :31:03.fix rooms in Amsterdam and Copenhagen. Also coming up, how the

:31:04. > :31:09.Black Lives Matter movement is making its mark in Britain. And

:31:10. > :31:13.can't work but can't claim. The government is planning to review the

:31:14. > :31:18.work capability assessment that was branded fundamentally flawed by one

:31:19. > :31:21.charity. We will speak to the Minister for disabled people to find

:31:22. > :31:26.out how they planned to get more people back to work. If you've been

:31:27. > :31:35.affected, do let us know. Keep your thoughts coming in on that as well.

:31:36. > :31:40.Good morning. The Democratic leader in the US Senate said the head of

:31:41. > :31:43.the FBI may have broken the law by revealing the bureau was

:31:44. > :31:46.investigating e-mails possibly linked to Hillary Clinton. Harry

:31:47. > :31:51.Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act which bars

:31:52. > :31:56.officials from influencing an election. News of the FBI enquiries

:31:57. > :32:00.comes less than two weeks before the US election. The bureau has obtained

:32:01. > :32:05.a warrant to search e-mails belonging to a top Clinton aide.

:32:06. > :32:10.Thousands of people in Italy have spent the night sleeping in cars and

:32:11. > :32:14.tense after the country's biggest earthquake in 40 years. The 6.6

:32:15. > :32:18.magnitude quake struck close to the region where nearly 300 people were

:32:19. > :32:23.killed in August. This time no one appears to have died but around 20

:32:24. > :32:28.people were injured. Tremors were felt in Rome where the Metro was

:32:29. > :32:33.shut down and as far away as Venice in the north. Barclays Bank says a

:32:34. > :32:37.small number of customers in the UK have been charged twice for debit

:32:38. > :32:44.card transactions made this morning. A spokesman confirmed some Democrat

:32:45. > :32:47.payments had been duplicated -- debit card payments. The bank says

:32:48. > :32:53.it is working to resolve the issue. It says no customers will lose money

:32:54. > :32:57.as a result of the incident. Amber Rudd the Home Secretary is expected

:32:58. > :33:01.to announce whether she will commission an enquiry into the clash

:33:02. > :33:05.between police and miners at Orgreave in South Yorkshire. It was

:33:06. > :33:11.the most violent confrontation of the 1984 miners strike. 124 officers

:33:12. > :33:15.and miners were injured and 93 people arrested. Campaigners claim

:33:16. > :33:19.police used excessive force and manufactured statements. Changes to

:33:20. > :33:23.the way disabled people are assessed for out of work benefits have been

:33:24. > :33:29.outlined by the government. The measures include a review of

:33:30. > :33:32.statutory sick pay and GP fit notes to encourage people who receive

:33:33. > :33:35.Employment and Support Allowance to make a phased return to work.

:33:36. > :33:40.Disability charities have warned some people may not be able to work,

:33:41. > :33:45.no matter how much support they receive. A plan to set up so-called

:33:46. > :33:48.fix rooms to allow drug addicts to inject safely under supervision is

:33:49. > :33:52.likely to get the go-ahead in Glasgow later today. Members of the

:33:53. > :33:56.health board, the local authority and police are expected to agree to

:33:57. > :33:59.the idea in principle. These clinics have been running successfully

:34:00. > :34:09.across Europe for decades, but this will be the first time one has been

:34:10. > :34:11.opened in the UK. It's a controversial idea that splits those

:34:12. > :34:13.who work with addicts. This is a crisis and a crisis needs a

:34:14. > :34:20.pragmatic evidence -based response. The reality is safer injecting

:34:21. > :34:24.facilities are a way to reduce drug-related deaths. We should have

:34:25. > :34:31.facilities dedicated to helping drug users recover, rather than proposing

:34:32. > :34:35.a means whereby they can use drugs more easily. Members of the public

:34:36. > :34:40.are being asked to create a record of ritual markings on buildings once

:34:41. > :34:43.believed to ward off evil spirits. The marks were often carved near

:34:44. > :34:48.entrances to buildings including the house where Shakespeare was born and

:34:49. > :34:52.the Tao of London. The symbols were believed to offer protection when

:34:53. > :34:55.belief in witchcraft and the supernatural was widespread. But

:34:56. > :35:06.historic England face too little is known about them.

:35:07. > :35:13.Lots of you are getting in touch on the idea of drug fix rooms. Glasgow

:35:14. > :35:17.is likely to give the go-ahead to one later today. Graham has detected

:35:18. > :35:21."I have been advocating for fix rooms for the help of addicts. Many

:35:22. > :35:25.crimes are committed by them. I believe these rooms would have a

:35:26. > :35:31.great benefit to the public as well as the addicts and reduce the drug

:35:32. > :35:34.dealers". Sharon says "I think the setting up of fix rooms is absurd,

:35:35. > :35:41.this is condoning the use of drugs, how can this be allowed? Yet we

:35:42. > :35:45.can't help those who are suffering and wanting to end their lives in a

:35:46. > :35:48.dignified matter, it is beyond comprehension".

:35:49. > :35:54.Let's get some sport with Olly Foster.

:35:55. > :36:00.Lewis Hamilton has cut Nico Rosberg's lead in the Formula 1

:36:01. > :36:04.drivers championship to 19 points. There are only two races left to go.

:36:05. > :36:10.Rosberg needs one more win to seal his first title. Just one point

:36:11. > :36:15.separates the top four in the Premier League after Chelsea kept in

:36:16. > :36:19.touch with the leaders. They beat Southampton 2-0. Manchester City,

:36:20. > :36:23.Arsenal and Liverpool all level pegging on 23 points at the top.

:36:24. > :36:28.Andy Murray's quest to become the world number one is still on track.

:36:29. > :36:34.He beat Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to win the Vienna open yesterday, his

:36:35. > :36:37.seventh title of the year. Next weekend he'll not Novak Djokovic of

:36:38. > :36:41.the top of the rankings of the Serb doesn't meet the final in Paris.

:36:42. > :36:48.Bradley Wiggins bowed out in front of a home crowd yesterday. He is due

:36:49. > :36:50.to retire later this month, but he did hint he might change his mind.

:36:51. > :36:56.I'll be back with an update later. "Never again will I let a system,

:36:57. > :36:59.racist, unfair or otherwise, The more I'm told I can't,

:37:00. > :37:02.the greater the reward The words of Nesta McGregor,

:37:03. > :37:07.a Radio 1 Newsbeat journalist, who's made a very personal documentary

:37:08. > :37:10.about the Black Lives It started as a hashtag in 2012,

:37:11. > :37:22.after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot dead by neighbourhood

:37:23. > :37:27.watchman George Zimmerman. Since then iconic moments of police

:37:28. > :37:37.brutality captured on camera... Meant the movement

:37:38. > :37:40.spread across America. But now, the Black Lives Matter

:37:41. > :37:43.brand has gone global, with marches in Australia,

:37:44. > :37:49.Canada and around the UK. I'm Nesta McGregor, I'm

:37:50. > :37:56.a journalist at BBC Radio 1 I was born in Jamaica,

:37:57. > :37:59.but by family moved I'm looking to find out what's

:38:00. > :38:04.causing a rise in black They look at her and think,

:38:05. > :38:10.she's a black little And at what it feels like to grow up

:38:11. > :38:19.black and British in 2016. So I guess one of the primary

:38:20. > :38:22.reasons I wanted to make this documentary was to highlight

:38:23. > :38:25.what it's like being black Even at work, it happens

:38:26. > :38:33.on a daily basis. I'll have an e-mail conversation

:38:34. > :38:35.or a phone conversation with someone, set up an interview,

:38:36. > :38:39.go to the premises to meet them, they'll come downstairs

:38:40. > :38:41.to reception, look around, look around, go back upstairs

:38:42. > :38:43.and call and say "are you sure There's a moment when you hear

:38:44. > :38:56.like almost in their head, oh, you're the black guy

:38:57. > :38:58.that was at reception. It's only when I'm saying this now,

:38:59. > :39:02.I realise, but it saddens me. Because it's the way

:39:03. > :39:06.things have always been. I know lots of people listening

:39:07. > :39:09.to this might feel the same. There's got to be a reason why now,

:39:10. > :39:13.people want to take a stand and show the rest of the world

:39:14. > :39:21.how they are feeling. I'm not really interested in hearing

:39:22. > :39:24.the same stats about black Four times more likely to be

:39:25. > :39:28.stopped and searched, What I really want to do is meet

:39:29. > :39:41.some of the people who come out to protest and find

:39:42. > :39:43.out why they are here. These protesters obviously

:39:44. > :39:46.are trying to make their point, is causing as much

:39:47. > :39:47.disruption as possible. Just in front of me,

:39:48. > :39:50.traffic is at an It's pretty much trouble

:39:51. > :40:05.free, but not everyone We come across a couple who should

:40:06. > :40:09.have been on holiday but missed their flight

:40:10. > :40:11.because of a similar demonstration This is important, something

:40:12. > :40:17.is happening here, we want Their family, everyone's

:40:18. > :40:33.got to mourn them. If you lot supported us before,

:40:34. > :40:41.we wouldn't have to do this. Eventually by luck we come

:40:42. > :40:52.across one of the organisers. It was to create as much, you know,

:40:53. > :40:56.awareness about Black Lives Matter. To the people that are here with us

:40:57. > :41:00.today and the people who didn't know the event was happening. I feel like

:41:01. > :41:03.people who are seeing what we are doing isn't going to change

:41:04. > :41:07.anything. They are trying to silence us and we will not be silenced. As

:41:08. > :41:14.the march goes on we come across this guy. What we've got is a

:41:15. > :41:19.gentleman being led away by police who during the march came out of his

:41:20. > :41:26.shop and started shouting some abuse, telling people to go back

:41:27. > :41:31.home and how they don't belong here. They can't keep coming here, they

:41:32. > :41:40.can't keep coming here. I heard this gentleman say that these people need

:41:41. > :41:44.to go back home. I've got 4/2 caste children. I can't even say half

:41:45. > :41:51.caste no more. I've got to say mixed race. There's a million immigrants

:41:52. > :41:55.coming. These people are marching for equality. If they don't feel

:41:56. > :42:01.equal in society what do you want them to do? After the March I went

:42:02. > :42:05.to meet six or seven friends for a drink and they were all white. For

:42:06. > :42:09.the first time I was looking at them thinking, what do they really think

:42:10. > :42:15.of me and are they being honest? That was a little bit weird. After

:42:16. > :42:21.speaking to so many people at the march, and now that I'm back at

:42:22. > :42:26.home... This is genuine, it almost made me feel less black being at the

:42:27. > :42:31.march, or that I was black enough. Because maybe if I hadn't been

:42:32. > :42:37.working I wouldn't have been there, or I'm certainly not as up for

:42:38. > :42:44.marching. Obviously I'm for equal rights but I don't think I would

:42:45. > :42:57.have gone and onto a March. A few days later I've arranged a catch up

:42:58. > :43:01.with Craze 24. He tells me he's been pulled over countless times by

:43:02. > :43:04.police because of the way he looks. He was the one defending the protest

:43:05. > :43:06.to the couple who missed their holiday but he's also using his

:43:07. > :43:27.music to try and change things. # Are you ready for Black Lives

:43:28. > :43:33.Matter # Instead of hating

:43:34. > :43:42.# Focus on the evidence we recorded on our phones #

:43:43. > :43:46.It's a lot cooler in here than at the weekend, why were you at the

:43:47. > :43:50.march? I believe in the issues they were marching for. It's come to a

:43:51. > :43:55.point when we have to start talking and addressing the issues before

:43:56. > :43:58.they go too far. There were some people who came there because a

:43:59. > :44:03.previous march disrupted their holiday. What did you get out of

:44:04. > :44:07.that conversation if anything? I got that they were upset because they

:44:08. > :44:16.was inconvenienced. I felt they were in light and briefly by us talking

:44:17. > :44:19.so I felt positive that I potentially made them see it from a

:44:20. > :44:24.different perspective. We are all humans and it's not about Black

:44:25. > :44:29.Lives Matter more than white lives, it's about realising we are all

:44:30. > :44:37.human. We need to come together and deal with it. Craze 24 has been

:44:38. > :44:41.pulled over more times than he thinks he should be. And it's that

:44:42. > :44:44.gut feeling of inequality or injustice that is united black

:44:45. > :44:50.people. For everyone the fight is different. Why don't I see more

:44:51. > :44:57.people like myself on TV? Why isn't there more black people in top jobs?

:44:58. > :45:01.Why do I get looked at as if I'm a drug dealer? Why is it when people

:45:02. > :45:07.meet me they automatically think I'm black? I'm not, I'm mixed race. Why

:45:08. > :45:12.do people take gangsta Rap so literally, half of the time it's not

:45:13. > :45:17.even what you think it is. Why don't we have more black role models in

:45:18. > :45:21.life? Why is it because I drive a nice car I get pulled over four

:45:22. > :45:26.times in one year. I question why we still don't have a black Prime

:45:27. > :45:30.Minister. In my school everyone looks at you differently, like,

:45:31. > :45:36.she's the only black person. I'm not sure why people assume I like

:45:37. > :45:41.hip-hop or I'm good at basketball. I think I'm the same as everybody

:45:42. > :45:44.else. There's a lot of young black men who lack aspiration in life. The

:45:45. > :45:49.reason they do this because they've not got a role model to help and

:45:50. > :45:53.support them. To try and understand why now, more than ever before

:45:54. > :46:02.there's so much momentum around the movement, I've come to meet Bea.

:46:03. > :46:08.Tutor be to come to their exhibition which is about highlighting the

:46:09. > :46:12.voices of black women. Each layer is to show that black women are made

:46:13. > :46:16.from multiple different layers. She's been going to Black Lives

:46:17. > :46:21.Matter events for several years. Talk to me, what is your life like

:46:22. > :46:26.in Britain today? Life in Britain 2016 as a black British woman is

:46:27. > :46:30.very interesting. Every single day I'm talking about diversity on

:46:31. > :46:34.social media and that's really important for me. The reason I

:46:35. > :46:40.mention that in 2016, about social media, is because ten years ago

:46:41. > :46:43.there wasn't this platform. People are saying these marches did nothing

:46:44. > :46:48.but make people lose support for a movement they perhaps believed in

:46:49. > :46:54.that order did was cause disruption. For me, the impact and the press it

:46:55. > :46:58.had, now people know what Black Lives Matter is. People thought it

:46:59. > :47:04.was just an American issue but when it happened, we were able to enter

:47:05. > :47:09.our conversation into how it is important in the UK. The UK has a

:47:10. > :47:13.different fight. The global face of blackness is American so when we

:47:14. > :47:19.talk about anything today with black people, we instantly think of

:47:20. > :47:22.America. We even think of Africa. We want to show our brothers and

:47:23. > :47:29.sisters in America we are standing with them. This country is hands up,

:47:30. > :47:34.don't handcuff me, I'm not the suspect you thought robbed that car.

:47:35. > :47:39.My child's life is in jeopardy, if she went to America. She is a black

:47:40. > :47:42.girl growing up in this country. Her life is also in jeopardy because

:47:43. > :47:46.people don't view her the same as a white little girl. They look at her

:47:47. > :47:53.and think is a black little girl and she could be bad. Three different

:47:54. > :47:58.experiences of life. The sort of problems they spoke to me about

:47:59. > :48:01.might not seem as dramatic as those in America, but don't forget this is

:48:02. > :48:08.on top of the fact that black people are more likely to live in poverty.

:48:09. > :48:13.They are underrepresented in jobs like police chiefs, judges and MPs.

:48:14. > :48:14.And a black graduate earns 23% less than a white classmate with the same

:48:15. > :48:34.degree. As filming comes to an end, I'm back

:48:35. > :48:37.where I started. We are back in south-east London. This is the

:48:38. > :48:43.estate I grew up on. Some of the best memories of my life were made

:48:44. > :48:47.here. This is where my attitude towards life in general,

:48:48. > :48:52.friendships, relationships, was definitely formed on this estate. I

:48:53. > :48:59.lived there for what, maybe 15 years? I met this man. I've known

:49:00. > :49:06.him for 20 years in general. Member when you could jump over this

:49:07. > :49:10.easily? -- remember? Did you feel the system was against it and it

:49:11. > :49:16.wasn't going to change so you had to give yourself the skills? The poor

:49:17. > :49:20.working class, it's harder. White, black, Indian, Chinese, it's harder.

:49:21. > :49:28.Than if I came from the middle class. It's a mindset. In the

:49:29. > :49:33.school, I'm saying, how long are you going to live for? Until you are 80.

:49:34. > :49:37.So you want to be a gangster? Between the age of 16-20, you will

:49:38. > :49:41.go to jail, get in trouble numerous amounts of times and that will shape

:49:42. > :49:46.your life for the other 60 years. Look at the big picture now. I need

:49:47. > :49:53.this and that. That's what my brother and uncle does. But you

:49:54. > :49:58.don't need to do that. I can leave here without saying hello to someone

:49:59. > :50:09.special. We are just off to see my grandmother who lives on this

:50:10. > :50:17.estate. Hopefully she is here. It's almost like you knew I was coming.

:50:18. > :50:21.How are you doing, all right? When I started making this film, it was to

:50:22. > :50:26.answer a simple question, why are black people in the UK marching? The

:50:27. > :50:30.answer is simple. It is that feeling, all of black people I've

:50:31. > :50:36.spoken to can relate to it, the feeling you get when you don't feel

:50:37. > :50:43.equal. I will see you later, yeah? Bye-bye. I promise I will come

:50:44. > :50:47.tomorrow. From the time I arrived in the UK to my treatment now, nothing

:50:48. > :50:52.has changed. The only difference is, with the power of the Black Lives

:50:53. > :50:57.Matter movement, people are treating it like a brand, something to jump

:50:58. > :51:01.on. I describe it like a bus heading towards a journey and at the moment,

:51:02. > :51:05.the bus is travelling as fast as it's ever going to travel so why not

:51:06. > :51:11.jump on to get to your destination? For me, the journey I have been on

:51:12. > :51:14.is very real because at the March in Southwark, I wanted held hands with

:51:15. > :51:18.the other black people and take a stand about injustice. I don't want

:51:19. > :51:23.to play down those struggles because they are real and what black people

:51:24. > :51:27.face every day, but my opinion has definitely changed throughout making

:51:28. > :51:33.this film. Because of the thing for me is, you want to escape the cycle

:51:34. > :51:37.and we don't want this for our children or our children's children.

:51:38. > :51:42.Should we, as black people, stop waiting for a saviour, other people

:51:43. > :51:47.to help us? Stop waiting for the system to help us and take more

:51:48. > :51:48.responsibility? If we do that, the likes of racism should not affect

:51:49. > :51:51.us. And you can watch the full Radio 1

:51:52. > :51:53.Newsbeat documentary That Black British Feeling

:51:54. > :51:56.on the BBC iPlayer now. Some breaking news to bring you -

:51:57. > :51:58.Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage,

:51:59. > :52:01.has dropped out of the race saying "the path to victory

:52:02. > :52:15.is too narrow". He says the top of the party is

:52:16. > :52:20.treating this like a Coronation. He's said the disgraceful treatment

:52:21. > :52:24.by the media and he has also spoken about problems around fundraising,

:52:25. > :52:31.so he has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader as a result of

:52:32. > :52:34.that. He had described himself as the most like Nigel Farage as a

:52:35. > :52:35.candidate. Our political guru

:52:36. > :52:44.Norman Smith is here. Herself proclaimed Nigel Farage

:52:45. > :52:50.candidate is out. Tell us why. It is bizarre, becoming like the political

:52:51. > :52:54.equivalent of wacky races of people piling off the track and crashing

:52:55. > :53:00.all over the place. Raheem Kassam is now the third contender to come a

:53:01. > :53:04.cropper. He doesn't directly say why he is not continuing. The give some

:53:05. > :53:08.sort of hints, suggesting he was not happy with the integrity of the

:53:09. > :53:12.election process. That raises questions about whether he thought

:53:13. > :53:18.it was entirely fair, other candidates would be given a leg up

:53:19. > :53:24.somehow. He's also not happy about the media coverage, complaining

:53:25. > :53:27.about journalists doorstepping his parents and he seems to have had an

:53:28. > :53:34.issue with raising sufficient funds, but we now have in the space of a

:53:35. > :53:38.month, Diane James, who was actually elected leader, deciding after a

:53:39. > :53:43.couple of weeks, no, she doesn't want to carry on, suggesting all

:53:44. > :53:45.sorts of shenanigans going on in the party's National Executive Committee

:53:46. > :53:51.to stop carrying out the changes she wanted. Then we had fisticuffs

:53:52. > :53:55.adorned with Stephen Wolf in the European Parliament, when he seemed

:53:56. > :54:01.to come to blows with another Ukip person. He warned about the party

:54:02. > :54:07.being in a death spiral and announced he is quitting the party.

:54:08. > :54:11.Now Raheem Kassam, Nigel Farage's person, his former chief of staff,

:54:12. > :54:15.he pitched himself as the Nigel Farage candidate. Now he has

:54:16. > :54:20.announced he is going and it just becomes more and more extraordinary.

:54:21. > :54:26.He said before he has been targeted by the outrage Brigade, a lot of

:54:27. > :54:34.criticism for various comments he put out on social media, four letter

:54:35. > :54:38.word laden tweets. Comments about the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon. How

:54:39. > :54:43.much controversy has he attracted? A bit like Nigel Farage, he crosses

:54:44. > :54:46.the street to look for a bit of controversy. He is someone who is

:54:47. > :54:50.not shy about expressing his opinions, let put it that way. Some

:54:51. > :54:58.of the Sunday papers, he was describing one of his competitors,

:54:59. > :55:02.Suzanne Evans, as the biggest liar ever. He does not hold back in

:55:03. > :55:05.expressing himself. I don't think it's that sort of controversy which

:55:06. > :55:08.has forced him to stand down, because he's never been shy about

:55:09. > :55:15.it. He's not a shrinking violet in that sense. I think the truth

:55:16. > :55:19.probably lies in that rather they'll suggestion about the integrity of

:55:20. > :55:23.the process. We're not quite clear what he's talking about there, but

:55:24. > :55:27.he seems to be suggesting that somehow the contest was rigged. Now,

:55:28. > :55:30.we don't know the details, but that's what I take from his

:55:31. > :55:35.suggestion that there was a problem with the integrity of the election

:55:36. > :55:41.process. So who is the favourite going to be now? Paul Nuttall, who

:55:42. > :55:45.used to be the number two at Ukip, in the sense that he's a different

:55:46. > :55:49.kettle of fish to Nigel Farage, but the sort of person who has presented

:55:50. > :55:54.as someone who can appeal to traditional Labour voters in the

:55:55. > :55:59.north of England, where many people believe Ukip's future might be in

:56:00. > :56:04.the post-Brexit world. The other big name is Suzanne Evans. She's found

:56:05. > :56:11.herself at loggerheads with Nigel Farage, looked to move the party in

:56:12. > :56:14.a less confrontational way. She has criticised Nigel Farage for budding

:56:15. > :56:19.up to Donald Trump, that sort of thing, so she has a much more media

:56:20. > :56:25.savvy approach about trying to reposition Ukip. Those will be the

:56:26. > :56:27.two main contenders. The last two still standing. Norman, thank you

:56:28. > :56:29.very much. Are schools letting

:56:30. > :56:30.down adopted children? We speak to a father of two adopted

:56:31. > :56:33.children and an organisation trying to get teachers

:56:34. > :56:36.trained to cope better. Kerry says, "We adopted a girl

:56:37. > :56:39.when she was 18 months old. She struggled when she started

:56:40. > :56:42.school but they helped her extremely well considering they'd

:56:43. > :56:44.only had a couple of Now she's a little high flyer,

:56:45. > :57:04.thanks to the school's early We will be talking about it a little

:57:05. > :57:09.bit later. Time now for a look at the weather. How are things looking?

:57:10. > :57:22.A very murky start. This was the scene at Tower Bridge in the fog in

:57:23. > :57:25.London. We had some poor visibility, below 100 metres across the

:57:26. > :57:31.Midlands, towards eastern areas of Wales. The worst visibility, the fog

:57:32. > :57:35.lifted a low cloud, and the last of it dispersing into the early

:57:36. > :57:40.afternoon to leave some sunshine. A warm day for the time of year with

:57:41. > :57:44.highs between 14-18. A weather front across the North of Scotland. It

:57:45. > :57:48.won't move very far during today but overnight tonight it will push

:57:49. > :57:50.southwards ringing damp weather across Northern Ireland, and the

:57:51. > :57:55.rain moving into northern England by the end of the night. Again we are

:57:56. > :58:00.likely to see some further dense patches of mist and fog forming

:58:01. > :58:03.across England and Wales. Cold in Scotland, touches of frost in rural

:58:04. > :58:07.parts to end the night. That is a sign of things to come because our

:58:08. > :58:11.weather is going to get much colder over the next few days. We have to

:58:12. > :58:14.look into the Arctic to find the answer because that is where the

:58:15. > :58:21.wind is going to be coming from over the next few days, ringing colder

:58:22. > :58:27.air. In London today, 18 degrees, by Wednesday, 11. Seven Celsius drop in

:58:28. > :58:35.temperatures on the way over the next few days. That is your weather.

:58:36. > :58:40.Hello, just before the 10am on Monday. Welcome to the programme.

:58:41. > :58:45.Our top story today, could Hillary Clinton lose the election because of

:58:46. > :58:48.the FBI's e-mail investigation? Polls are tightening the just over a

:58:49. > :58:50.week to go leading Democrats to say the head of the FBI may have broken

:58:51. > :58:52.the law. The FBI is reopening

:58:53. > :58:55.the investigation into the criminal and illegal conduct of Hillary

:58:56. > :58:58.Clinton. Voters deserve to get

:58:59. > :59:07.full and complete facts. And so we called an director

:59:08. > :59:09.James Comey to explain everything right away,

:59:10. > :59:15.put it all out on the table. Also on the programme -

:59:16. > :59:17.are drug fix rooms - where addicts can inject heroin

:59:18. > :59:19.safely - a good idea? Glasgow's likely to give

:59:20. > :59:32.the go-ahead to one later today. This is a crisis and a crisis needs

:59:33. > :59:38.a pragmatic evidence -based response. The reality is safer

:59:39. > :59:42.injecting facilities are a way to reduce drug-related deaths, overdose

:59:43. > :59:48.fatalities. That story has got a lot of you getting in touch. An

:59:49. > :59:51.anonymous watcher says "I'm a heroin addict, these shooting galleries are

:59:52. > :59:56.mainly used by homeless street addicts. The first thing these

:59:57. > :00:00.people need is help with housing and then help getting clean." We'll be

:00:01. > :00:02.speaking with people who run fix rooms in Amsterdam and Copenhagen

:00:03. > :00:06.before 11am. Dealing with the death

:00:07. > :00:08.of a child is tragic enough, but having to get into debt in order

:00:09. > :00:11.to bury them brings We'll be talking to one MP who had

:00:12. > :00:15.to take out a loan just so she could afford to bury her

:00:16. > :00:18.eight-year-old son - she is now campaigning

:00:19. > :00:20.to end council charges We will speak to her live this

:00:21. > :00:26.morning. Here's the BBC Newsroom

:00:27. > :00:39.with a summary of today's news. Raheem Kassam former aide to Nigel

:00:40. > :00:43.Farage has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader. He said his

:00:44. > :00:47.path to victory is too narrow and that the top of the party is

:00:48. > :00:55.treating the contest as a coronation. He's given his backing

:00:56. > :00:59.to London assembly member Peter Whittle. The race was triggered when

:01:00. > :01:02.Diane James stood down days after her election as leader.

:01:03. > :01:06.The Democratic leader in the US Senate says the head of the FBI may

:01:07. > :01:08.have broken the law by revealing the bureau was investigating emails

:01:09. > :01:14.Harry Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act

:01:15. > :01:16.which bars officials from influencing an election.

:01:17. > :01:19.News of the FBI inquiry comes less than two weeks before

:01:20. > :01:22.The bureau has meanwhile obtained a warrant to search a cache

:01:23. > :01:29.of emails belonging to a top Clinton aide.

:01:30. > :01:32.Barclays bank says "a small number of customers" in the UK have been

:01:33. > :01:35.charged twice for debit card transactions made this morning.

:01:36. > :01:37.A spokesman confirmed that some debit card payments have been

:01:38. > :01:41.The bank says it became aware of the problem earlier today

:01:42. > :01:45.It also says that no customers will lose money

:01:46. > :01:53.Thousands of people in Italy have spent the night sleeping in cars

:01:54. > :01:55.and tents after the country's biggest earthquake in 40 years.

:01:56. > :01:58.The 6.6-magnitude quake struck close to the region where nearly 300

:01:59. > :01:59.people were killed by another quake in August.

:02:00. > :02:02.This time no-one appears to have died, but around 20

:02:03. > :02:06.Tremors were felt in the capital Rome, where the Metro

:02:07. > :02:09.system was shut down, and as far away as

:02:10. > :02:16.The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is expected to announce today

:02:17. > :02:18.whether she'll commission an inquiry into the clash between police

:02:19. > :02:20.and miners at Orgreave in South Yorkshire.

:02:21. > :02:22.It was the most violent confrontation of the

:02:23. > :02:26.More than 120 officers and miners were injured,

:02:27. > :02:31.Campaigners claim police used excessive force

:02:32. > :02:45.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10:30am.

:02:46. > :02:54.A comment to bring new on our Black Lives Matter report you may have

:02:55. > :02:59.seen a few moments ago. A tweet, "Amazing documentary, I was born in

:03:00. > :03:04.Sri Lanka and I also feel out of place in the UK. I face racism

:03:05. > :03:07.nearly all my life". You can watch a documentary on iPlayer.

:03:08. > :03:09.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:03:10. > :03:12.use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:03:13. > :03:21.Lewis Hamilton certainly looks like he's back in the winning groove in

:03:22. > :03:25.Formula 1, but he says he might have left it too late. He took the

:03:26. > :03:29.chequered flag at the Mexican Grand Prix to cut Nico Rosberg's lead in

:03:30. > :03:34.the drivers championship to just 19 points. He's won back-to-back races

:03:35. > :03:38.now, but there are only two races left to go this season and Rosberg

:03:39. > :03:42.who finished second in Mexico needs just one more win to seal his first

:03:43. > :03:48.title. Daniel Ricardo was eventually promoted to third. Sebastian Vettel

:03:49. > :03:55.was demoted as was Max Verstappen before him. After ten matches one

:03:56. > :04:00.point separates the top four teams in the Premier League. Manchester

:04:01. > :04:03.City, Arsenal and Liverpool lead the way on 23 points, but Chelsea are

:04:04. > :04:10.the form side at the moment. They made it four wins in a row with a

:04:11. > :04:14.2-0 victory at Southampton. Eden Hazzard scored their first, Diego

:04:15. > :04:20.Costa with the second at St Mary 's. That sees them storm to fourth in

:04:21. > :04:25.the table. I'm very happy. When you see this type of game and you see

:04:26. > :04:34.this commitment of all your players, you must be satisfied. When you see

:04:35. > :04:43.your players that work so hard to win, show you the will to win, it's

:04:44. > :04:49.fantastic for a coach. Four in a row for Chelsea. Andy Murray has won his

:04:50. > :04:52.third title in a row and seventh of an incredible season. This time next

:04:53. > :04:56.week he could be world number one for the first time. He beat

:04:57. > :05:02.Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to take the Vienna open. The tour now moves on

:05:03. > :05:05.to Paris. If Andy Murray wins that title and Novak Djokovic fails to

:05:06. > :05:09.reach the final in Paris the Serb will drop off the top of the

:05:10. > :05:12.rankings. Sir Bradley Wiggins bowed out in front of his home crowd

:05:13. > :05:20.yesterday with a second-place finish at the London six-day event. Wiggins

:05:21. > :05:24.and Mark Cavendish were racing together. They were beaten in the

:05:25. > :05:31.final race by a Belgian pair. He is due to retire in November. But he

:05:32. > :05:37.did hint that he might change his mind. He's enjoyed himself so much

:05:38. > :05:45.in London, he says. The headlines in half an hour. 80% of people in the

:05:46. > :05:52.UK are in work but if you are disabled that figure drops to 50%.

:05:53. > :05:55.For some people their illness or disability means they'll never be

:05:56. > :05:58.able to work but others could with the right support. The problem is

:05:59. > :06:03.how you decide who falls into which category. The current work

:06:04. > :06:06.capability assessment has been branded fundamentally flawed and

:06:07. > :06:11.today the government is announcing a consultation on it. We can speak to

:06:12. > :06:16.the Minister for disabled people and a two people who have been affected

:06:17. > :06:20.by the work capability assessment. One has a number of conditions which

:06:21. > :06:26.make it difficult for him to walk. He's been told twice he is fit to

:06:27. > :06:32.work before that decision was overturned. And the guest who has

:06:33. > :06:38.Parkinson's and has successfully appealed against a decision she was

:06:39. > :06:41.fit to work. Tell us about the assessment you had because it was

:06:42. > :06:45.subsequently overturned but you were told you were fit to work, how did

:06:46. > :06:58.you feel going through that process? Good morning. The process was very,

:06:59. > :07:06.very painful and degrading. If you suffer from arthritis, rheumatoid

:07:07. > :07:10.and osteo, some days you could walk, some days you cannot. And you cannot

:07:11. > :07:19.pick and choose. The day I went there I was feeling rather good. As

:07:20. > :07:27.a result of it, the assessor ignored all the medical results, all the

:07:28. > :07:33.medical evidence and treatments and investigation, and he said I was fit

:07:34. > :07:37.to work and to go back to work. And that was in February this year.

:07:38. > :07:43.Would you have wanted to go back to work? I would love to go to work. I

:07:44. > :07:49.would love to be able to come back and be who I was before. For 50

:07:50. > :07:53.years I worked and I paid my national insurance and helped people

:07:54. > :07:59.and they helped me. But now, when I come to the point that this is what

:08:00. > :08:04.I've paid for, my national insurance and taxes to look after me when it

:08:05. > :08:13.comes to this sort of situation, and they are just pushing you and

:08:14. > :08:18.treating you like a criminal. You have to continuously prove that you

:08:19. > :08:20.are looking for a job while you are attending the hospital and

:08:21. > :08:26.treatment. Psychologically, it really affects people and I had a

:08:27. > :08:34.nervous breakdown as a result of that. Very, very bad, and I'm very

:08:35. > :08:39.lucky I've got a family who kind of give me encouragement to carry on

:08:40. > :08:42.and fight. Diane, what has happened with you? You are diagnosed with

:08:43. > :08:49.Parkinson's four years ago and were found to be fit to work. When I was

:08:50. > :08:55.first put on ESA I was put in a support group and I moved down to

:08:56. > :09:02.Wales. For some reason might ESA stopped. I had to reapply, because

:09:03. > :09:08.they said I'd asked them to finish paying me. I was put in the

:09:09. > :09:13.work-related activity group and I was absolutely worried sick. I was

:09:14. > :09:19.dreading every envelope coming through the door, waiting for this

:09:20. > :09:25.work capability assessment. I was being asked for sick notes from my

:09:26. > :09:30.doctor. I'd taken ill-health retirement so I had no reason to

:09:31. > :09:34.need a sick note. I was constantly being asked and told I wouldn't get

:09:35. > :09:40.any money unless I produced them, and it just went on and on. I was

:09:41. > :09:43.getting myself in such a state my symptoms were worsening. I was

:09:44. > :09:49.getting so stressed about the situation. My local support worker

:09:50. > :09:59.was writing letters and making phone calls on my behalf. It was an

:10:00. > :10:03.endless battle. Suddenly I got a letter saying I was being reassessed

:10:04. > :10:08.and I was back in the support group. I don't know why I was put through

:10:09. > :10:13.so much trauma. The fact that I would love to work, I had to give up

:10:14. > :10:18.work because I'm not capable. Some days I can't even get out of bed.

:10:19. > :10:25.When your condition is so unpredictable, how can you hold down

:10:26. > :10:30.a job? It's a degenerative condition and the word degenerative itself

:10:31. > :10:34.means to become functionally useless. To be told you might get

:10:35. > :10:40.better and be able to go back to work is insulting beyond belief.

:10:41. > :10:44.Penny, what do you think when you hear Bahram and Diane talking about

:10:45. > :10:49.what they've experienced? I think your guests outlined some of the

:10:50. > :10:52.flaws with the existing process and in particular the work capability

:10:53. > :10:56.assessment. We are already doing some things to address some of the

:10:57. > :11:02.points that they have raised. We are dramatically reducing the number of

:11:03. > :11:05.people having to go to appeal to get the right decision by ensuring that

:11:06. > :11:10.health care information submitted earlier in the process. We've

:11:11. > :11:14.already announced we're going to stop retests and re-examination of

:11:15. > :11:18.people who have degenerative conditions. There's no point in

:11:19. > :11:21.doing that, it's stressful for them and additional bureaucracy. But

:11:22. > :11:25.there are further things that we want to do. That's why we are

:11:26. > :11:29.publishing the green paper today which will consult more on a raft of

:11:30. > :11:35.issues for employers, for allsorts of other things, health trials. It

:11:36. > :11:42.will also look at the work capability assessment and ask more

:11:43. > :11:50.probing questions. The government wants to reduce the disability

:11:51. > :11:53.employment gap. There is a marked difference with non-disabled people

:11:54. > :11:56.biking. When there is a target like that does that mean there will

:11:57. > :12:02.always be a drive that will put people through the sort of

:12:03. > :12:05.situations we are hearing? Does sometimes common sense go out the

:12:06. > :12:11.window when there is a policy view driving what happens? This green

:12:12. > :12:15.paper is about putting that common sense back in place. We have been

:12:16. > :12:20.treating people as though they are part of a sausage factory. The work

:12:21. > :12:23.capability assessment has been, as well as the process being far from

:12:24. > :12:29.ideal as your other guests have outlined, it puts people in one of

:12:30. > :12:32.two camps. Can work, can't work. Clearly that's not remotely helpful.

:12:33. > :12:38.Ironically the people who need the most support don't have access to

:12:39. > :12:42.it. What we want to do is look at that fundamental aspect of the

:12:43. > :12:47.assessment process. We want to make the process better by having all the

:12:48. > :12:51.bits of government joined up better, so people aren't having to

:12:52. > :12:55.continually fill out forms or submit the same bit of evidence several

:12:56. > :13:04.times over. We also want to ensure that the end of that process, we're

:13:05. > :13:08.a position to be giving the support that that person needs. Whether they

:13:09. > :13:10.are going to be in work full time, whether they just want to be

:13:11. > :13:15.meaningful activity or whether they are unable to work. At what point

:13:16. > :13:20.does an assessment get made that actually the situation is as it is?

:13:21. > :13:26.If that were to be the case, it is as it is, we can't squeeze any more,

:13:27. > :13:30.actually people do want to work but for whatever reason they aren't able

:13:31. > :13:33.to because of what is required by employers or the fact their

:13:34. > :13:37.situation isn't going to get any better, and just leave it at that.

:13:38. > :13:43.And if that requires extra financial resources, it will be found. People

:13:44. > :13:47.who can't work or who need income support will always get that. What

:13:48. > :13:53.we are focused on today is those people that do want to work, that

:13:54. > :13:56.have tremendous talents and skills to offer. Disabled people are the

:13:57. > :14:01.most entrepreneurial people on the planet. A quarter of our new

:14:02. > :14:07.employment allowance went to disabled people over the last year.

:14:08. > :14:12.What we are talking about is enabling people to achieve their

:14:13. > :14:16.ambitions and enabling employers to benefit from that. That's what we

:14:17. > :14:20.haven't been doing as well as we should do date, and that's what

:14:21. > :14:26.we're looking to address in the green paper today. Bahram you were

:14:27. > :14:31.shaking your head, why is that? Yes, yes. This is, forgive me, it's a bit

:14:32. > :14:37.of a nonsense what has happened in the past. I welcome a change for the

:14:38. > :14:53.future. But I'm going to ask one question from Penny. Why on earth

:14:54. > :14:59.the government reduces the people on disability or work-related activity

:15:00. > :15:07.by ?30 a week? There were 309 MPs who actually signed this to take

:15:08. > :15:14.place. They reduced the money that most people needed to live on, while

:15:15. > :15:18.they gave themselves a pay rise. It just doesn't make sense.

:15:19. > :15:26.To know how long it will take for people to ring the Department for

:15:27. > :15:31.Work and Pensions? I could show you my telephone. 35 minutes just

:15:32. > :15:36.waiting for someone just to answer. If I tell you that the result I come

:15:37. > :15:44.out with, even the assessor doesn't have my file, doesn't know where I

:15:45. > :15:49.am, asks me to apply again. In response to those two points, first

:15:50. > :15:54.of all, on the so-called RAG group, that is not going to apply to people

:15:55. > :15:58.who are currently receiving benefits, so there will be no cash

:15:59. > :16:05.and losers in this. That group, we also announcing today, will achieve

:16:06. > :16:09.some additional support. 13 new measures put together by patient

:16:10. > :16:12.support groups, employers themselves, one example being access

:16:13. > :16:18.to occupational health services. And on the last point, about how all of

:16:19. > :16:22.this is delivered, of course, even if we get the policy absolutely

:16:23. > :16:26.right and I hope we will get a better result through this

:16:27. > :16:30.consultation about the assessment process, much of this is about

:16:31. > :16:33.delivery. It's about the experience of an individual who quite often may

:16:34. > :16:39.have had some traumatic event in their life, may have lost work

:16:40. > :16:45.because of the situations and obstacles they've had to overcome,

:16:46. > :16:48.those people we need to ensure that we are supporting them throughout

:16:49. > :16:53.the whole process and that means how we deliver that, how people can

:16:54. > :16:56.access our services, just a few weeks ago for example, we put for

:16:57. > :17:00.the first time our access to work scheme, which is a really popular

:17:01. > :17:05.scheme, online for the first time. The average amount of time to access

:17:06. > :17:07.that is 20 minutes now, so we're looking at improving all of these

:17:08. > :17:12.things but we need to do more fundamental things to really deliver

:17:13. > :17:17.the tailored support people need and that's why we have published this

:17:18. > :17:22.paper today. I encourage everyone, local groups, we produced a

:17:23. > :17:27.consultation pack to enable them to get involved. We need your input,

:17:28. > :17:33.advice, to make this work. Thank you very much. I know you have got to

:17:34. > :17:37.go, so we will let you go, thank you. I wanted, Diane, to ask you, if

:17:38. > :17:42.you are reassured by what you heard from penny because she said people

:17:43. > :17:46.with degenerative illnesses like you will not keep being reassessed in

:17:47. > :17:51.the future. That is good news but I mean, at the time, I went for about

:17:52. > :17:54.three or four months with no money at all. They stopped my money

:17:55. > :17:59.because I didn't provide thick notes. My GP can understand why I

:18:00. > :18:06.needed them because I had taken retirement. It's all right saying

:18:07. > :18:09.they are going to be reassuring to people with degenerative conditions,

:18:10. > :18:15.but if people still being put through this situation, they

:18:16. > :18:19.shouldn't have to go through it. It's an unnecessary stress. An

:18:20. > :18:22.unnecessary worry, and when you are dreading the postman coming down the

:18:23. > :18:30.path because a brown envelope will come through your door asking for

:18:31. > :18:36.another thick note, a hospital appointment, and assessment, it is

:18:37. > :18:39.very, very stressful. They need to consider the individuals and how

:18:40. > :18:43.much stress it puts on them and their families, as well. I mean, I

:18:44. > :18:48.was lucky because I had a fantastic support worker who did a lot of my

:18:49. > :18:53.phone calls and letters for me and I think, without her, I don't know how

:18:54. > :18:58.would got through it. Thank you very much both of you. I want to bring in

:18:59. > :19:02.some comments. "I Was told by the DWP I am fit for work because I

:19:03. > :19:07.attended doctors appointments." I have been signed off by Mike GP by

:19:08. > :19:13.March so why is his word not good enough to say I am not fit for work

:19:14. > :19:15.-- my GP. Thank you for all of your comments. Do keep them coming in.

:19:16. > :19:17.Next, will this man - former reality TV star

:19:18. > :19:21.and billionaire Donald Trump, or this woman - former First Lady

:19:22. > :19:23.and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -

:19:24. > :19:28.There's a week and a day till the American nation

:19:29. > :19:30.goes to the polls - and Hillary Clinton's

:19:31. > :19:37.The BBC's poll of polls shows Donald Trump at 46%

:19:38. > :19:41.and Hillary Clinton at 49% - as you can see several days ago

:19:42. > :19:49.But her campaign's been rocked by another FBI investigation

:19:50. > :19:56.The most senior Democrat in the US Senate, Harry Reid,

:19:57. > :20:00.has suggested that the head of the FBI may have broken the law

:20:01. > :20:03.by releasing details of a new investigation

:20:04. > :20:05.into her emails - so close to the presidential election.

:20:06. > :20:09.Here's how both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump have responded.

:20:10. > :20:12.So we don't know the facts, which is why we are calling

:20:13. > :20:19.on the FBI to release all the information that it has.

:20:20. > :20:22.Even Director Comey noted that this new information

:20:23. > :20:26.may not be significant, so let's get it out.

:20:27. > :20:34.The investigation is the biggest political scandal since Watergate,

:20:35. > :20:43.and it's everybody's hope that justice, at last, can be delivered.

:20:44. > :20:46.We can speak now to Jan Halper-Hayes from Republicans overseas -

:20:47. > :20:51.She wants a Trump victory on November the 8th -

:20:52. > :20:54.and we also have Ebs Burnough, he's a former White House Social

:20:55. > :20:56.Secretary to President Obama and senior political director

:20:57. > :21:05.He's supporting Hillary Clinton in the elections.

:21:06. > :21:13.What you think the impact of could be? It is long on innuendo, short on

:21:14. > :21:21.facts, and virtually absent of any substance. This letter the director

:21:22. > :21:26.sent to Congress has no... It's a fishing expedition and the sad thing

:21:27. > :21:31.is the director has input the FBI into the middle of a presidential

:21:32. > :21:35.election. When something comes to light which might be pertinent to

:21:36. > :21:40.something ring investigated, what else could he have done? The

:21:41. > :21:44.fundamental issue is there's no smoking gun what this letter says

:21:45. > :21:52.is, we are going to look at e-mail that may or may not be pertinent.

:21:53. > :21:55.What's wrong with that? By doing it right in the middle of a

:21:56. > :21:58.presidential election, that should be done with more substance to bear.

:21:59. > :22:04.But letter should have gone to Congress, a subpoena could be issued

:22:05. > :22:07.prior to the Congress, but there should be more detail into what

:22:08. > :22:10.exactly this is, especially realising the massive impact this

:22:11. > :22:18.would have 11 days before a presidential election. Did he break

:22:19. > :22:24.the law by inserting the FBI into a presidential campaign? What do you

:22:25. > :22:30.think? I think the polls right now don't fully tell us the impact of

:22:31. > :22:34.this. Chicago Tribune has asked her to stand down. Some of her strongest

:22:35. > :22:39.advocates have asked her to stand down and have said they are not

:22:40. > :22:46.supporting her any more. When you say the polls on showing the full

:22:47. > :22:51.effect, the poll of polls shows a narrowing, 49-46. Are you saying

:22:52. > :22:54.it's even tighter than that? I think we'll look at the polls in a couple

:22:55. > :22:57.of days and it will get tighter. There have been a couple of things

:22:58. > :23:04.to have changed the polls and impacted Hillary Clinton. One is

:23:05. > :23:09.Obama care, and that is causing a major uproar in the States because

:23:10. > :23:14.of the increase in premiums. A friend of mine in Arizona, family of

:23:15. > :23:20.three years to pay $1000 a month for his insurers but now it's over 2000.

:23:21. > :23:24.Each family member has to pay 5000 in their deductibles before they

:23:25. > :23:29.even get any money back. There is a pay for play which has come out. The

:23:30. > :23:38.WikiLeaks members from her campaign manager, her chairman,. These are

:23:39. > :23:42.all things which are being out there. This latest FBI

:23:43. > :23:47.investigation, due think it will be a game changer? Yes, the final game

:23:48. > :23:52.changer. Talking of Arizona, the fact Hillary Clinton it up by

:23:53. > :23:57.minuscule numbers in Arizona, Georgia, states which are

:23:58. > :24:03.traditional Republican,... They have flipped. Look at the BBC poll of

:24:04. > :24:08.polls. I do agree we have not seen the impact of any of this. We

:24:09. > :24:17.haven't begun to talk about long-term trump a senior aide and

:24:18. > :24:22.his collusion with Vladimir Putin. I know you love to blame the Russians

:24:23. > :24:26.are everything. And the involvement in WikiLeaks and so forth. Tapping

:24:27. > :24:34.into the US government. The bigger issue here is there a 21 million

:24:35. > :24:39.votes already cast. That has to go forward. Most of those votes have

:24:40. > :24:42.been strongly for Secretary Clinton. Just a minute. The states have come

:24:43. > :24:47.out over the weekend and said if people want to vote again and pull

:24:48. > :24:52.their votes back, they are allowed to do that because of this

:24:53. > :24:58.information. I have not had that, actually. Whatever happens, has

:24:59. > :25:06.there ever been a more vitriolic, bitter election campaign in US

:25:07. > :25:11.presidential history? No. Whoever winds, are they going to be the most

:25:12. > :25:15.unpopular president? Hillary Clinton is the worst of the worst of

:25:16. > :25:20.government. Donald Trump is the worst of culture and reality TV.

:25:21. > :25:25.People ask, 330 million people, and you give us these candidates? We

:25:26. > :25:31.know Secretary Clinton has proven itself as a senator, a first lady, a

:25:32. > :25:37.woman of the world, Secretary of State. She not only has the but the

:25:38. > :25:42.skill set and the love of country to attempt to reunite this country

:25:43. > :25:45.after a very vitriolic election. I know the vast majority of Americans

:25:46. > :25:49.never Donald Trump does not have a great temper meant to be president.

:25:50. > :25:54.Not much longer to go. Who knows what twists and turns lie ahead. At

:25:55. > :25:57.the beginning of the season, I said wait a couple of weeks and now we

:25:58. > :25:59.wait a couple of hours for things to change. Thank you both very much.

:26:00. > :26:01.Thank you. Arguments over NHS funding,

:26:02. > :26:05.as the chairwoman of the Commons Health Committee warns

:26:06. > :26:07.the government that it is giving the misleading impression

:26:08. > :26:10.that the health service in England is "awash with cash" -

:26:11. > :26:17.we'll be speaking to her. If you've adopted children -

:26:18. > :26:20.do you get enough support The charity Adoption UK believes

:26:21. > :26:23.many teachers don't understand how best to help adopted children,

:26:24. > :26:25.or those in care. It says they often struggle to trust

:26:26. > :26:28.adults, and consequently do worse We can talk now to Hugh Thornbery,

:26:29. > :26:35.the Chief Executive of Adoption UK and Andy Hatton, who is dad to two

:26:36. > :26:49.adopted girls aged seven and six. J J Cassidy got in touch with us. He

:26:50. > :26:52.adopted a son at the age of four. He didn't have the right support from

:26:53. > :27:02.his school. What was your experience? My experience was we

:27:03. > :27:07.went into a school that had a sinkhole, not fit for purpose, and

:27:08. > :27:16.the School has fortunately turned around. They've got good, and it's

:27:17. > :27:21.very much, the concentration is not there on the children, and their

:27:22. > :27:27.needs, and picking their needs are quickly enough, then the child's

:27:28. > :27:32.mother was education will suffer. The phrase being used to describe

:27:33. > :27:36.kids who are in this situation is attachment disorder. Not everyone

:27:37. > :27:41.will be familiar so explain it. Basically, children with a difficult

:27:42. > :27:45.start in life, not been able to develop relationships. Most children

:27:46. > :27:49.as babies would find relationships with their parents in other aspects

:27:50. > :27:56.of their life. It's simple to understand but to deal with it is

:27:57. > :27:59.complex. Very hard. We heard from JJ, at the moment, many schools

:28:00. > :28:03.struggle to understand these children, therefore manage them in

:28:04. > :28:10.the classroom. Other schools do a very, very good job. We are calling

:28:11. > :28:14.for alongside the Nu T is better awareness across all schools in the

:28:15. > :28:19.country about the needs of these children. You adopted a couple of

:28:20. > :28:30.children, Andy. Have you experienced this? We have. The eldest girl, when

:28:31. > :28:34.she first came to us, she really struggle to develop bonds with

:28:35. > :28:38.anything. She has no favourite teddy, favourite toys, and it took a

:28:39. > :28:42.long time before she actually started to identify things. We knew

:28:43. > :28:45.that was because she'd been moved from home to home, she'd never been

:28:46. > :28:50.able to settle, never had anything permanent in her life, so when she

:28:51. > :28:54.went to school obviously that started to manifest itself in here

:28:55. > :28:58.being quite withdrawn. A way of dealing with things was she would

:28:59. > :29:03.draw into herself and with said, she is a daydreamer, she's not paying

:29:04. > :29:07.attention. If you look at statistics, just 49% of adopted

:29:08. > :29:15.children will reach their expected levels of Key stage two compared to

:29:16. > :29:19.75% of their peers, so it's clear it's something which has to be

:29:20. > :29:22.addressed, and not just left something which is potentially a

:29:23. > :29:27.natural way for that child to be. What have you found to be the best

:29:28. > :29:33.ways of dealing with it? We were very fortunate, when the girls came

:29:34. > :29:36.to us, we looked around at different schools. We were able to choose a

:29:37. > :29:42.school before would be best for our children. They had a parent liaison

:29:43. > :29:47.officer in the school. She was very understanding. A mistake that we

:29:48. > :29:52.made was that we just said to people, the girls were adopted. And

:29:53. > :29:57.we kind of assumed that teachers, being trained professionals, they

:29:58. > :30:04.would understand what that meant. Why was that a mistake you made?

:30:05. > :30:09.Because it made an assumption. Not assuming it would lead to... We

:30:10. > :30:17.assumed they would understand what it meant. Early on, according to the

:30:18. > :30:20.school, our eldest daughter was having developmental issues and

:30:21. > :30:26.explained the background and history of where should come from,, OK, now

:30:27. > :30:28.we understand. That explains an awful lot. And they were able to

:30:29. > :30:38.take action and sort things out. Is it incumbent on the parents to

:30:39. > :30:41.spell out and not assume the school will do the right thing? Adoption

:30:42. > :30:44.works really well because the adoptive parents get really good

:30:45. > :30:51.knowledge and understand their children. We shouldn't allow this

:30:52. > :30:55.just to fool on the responsibility of the adoptive parents -- fall on

:30:56. > :30:58.the responsibility. We want schools to have greater understanding and

:30:59. > :31:03.awareness which is why we are publishing guidance today. Beyond

:31:04. > :31:05.that it's important that within the classroom, classroom teachers

:31:06. > :31:10.understand how these children might behave and understand how to respond

:31:11. > :31:13.to that. The traditional approach is behavioural management, that doesn't

:31:14. > :31:17.work with these children. They need greater focus on relationships.

:31:18. > :31:24.Presumably it's resource heavy for a school? No, and I think if you do

:31:25. > :31:29.this right it's less of a drain on resources. The government commits

:31:30. > :31:32.?1900 per year to children adopted from Kent to schools. There is

:31:33. > :31:38.additional funding for them to be able to buy training, counselling

:31:39. > :31:43.support, or to provide one-to-one support for children. David on

:31:44. > :31:48.Facebook says teachers Harv are hard enough job as it is without people

:31:49. > :31:54.expecting them to be social workers as well. Another viewer says

:31:55. > :32:01.teachers need to be sensitive to the needs of all their children. Family

:32:02. > :32:08.tree work or bringing in baby pictures can be a problem. Is that

:32:09. > :32:12.something you've experienced? We have never hidden the fact the girls

:32:13. > :32:16.were adopted but we don't advertise it. We've always said we just want

:32:17. > :32:21.to be a normal family so we try and be as normal as possible. Early on

:32:22. > :32:28.there was a bring your baby photos to school. How did you handle that?

:32:29. > :32:31.We give them photographs of when they were toddlers. They went babies

:32:32. > :32:35.but we had photos of them when they were very young. It was quite

:32:36. > :32:39.noticeable when they pinned the pictures up that everyone else had

:32:40. > :32:45.baby photos and we didn't. No one commented on it. But it made us feel

:32:46. > :32:53.slightly uncomfortable. Thank you very much for talking to us.

:32:54. > :32:57.We'll be talking to an MP who says she was forced to take out a loan

:32:58. > :33:00.just so she could afford to bury her eight-year-old son.

:33:01. > :33:02.She is now campaigning to end council charges

:33:03. > :33:06.Also coming up - are drug fix rooms, where addicts can inject heroin

:33:07. > :33:11.We'll be talking to someone who runs a drug consumption

:33:12. > :33:22.Now for the news from the BBC Newsroom.

:33:23. > :33:24.Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage,

:33:25. > :33:27.has dropped out of the race to become Ukip leader.

:33:28. > :33:31.The former advisor says his path to victory is too narrow

:33:32. > :33:33.and that the top of party was treating the contest

:33:34. > :33:37.He has given his backing to London Assembly member

:33:38. > :33:42.He is the third leadership contender to withdraw from the race

:33:43. > :33:45.which was triggered when Diane James stood down just days

:33:46. > :33:51.The Democratic leader in the US Senate says the head of the FBI may

:33:52. > :33:54.have broken the law by revealing the bureau was investigating emails

:33:55. > :33:59.Harry Reid accused FBI director James Comey of violating an act

:34:00. > :34:08.which bars officials from influencing an election.

:34:09. > :34:10.News of the FBI inquiry comes less than two weeks

:34:11. > :34:14.The bureau has meanwhile obtained a warrant to search a cache

:34:15. > :34:16.of emails belonging to a top Clinton aide.

:34:17. > :34:19.Barclays bank says "a small number of customers" in the UK have been

:34:20. > :34:21.charged twice for debit card transactions made this morning.

:34:22. > :34:23.A spokesman confirmed that some debit card payments have been

:34:24. > :34:27.The bank says it became aware of the problem earlier today

:34:28. > :34:31.It also says that no customers will be out of pocket

:34:32. > :34:49.Following the huge earthquake yesterday in Italy, 6.6 magnitude,

:34:50. > :34:54.and many people have had to spend the night in tents, certainly

:34:55. > :34:58.staying out of their homes while people assess what the situation is

:34:59. > :35:02.with more after-shocks expected. The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd,

:35:03. > :35:04.is expected to announce today whether she'll commission an inquiry

:35:05. > :35:07.into the clash between police and miners at Orgreave

:35:08. > :35:09.in South Yorkshire. It was the most violent

:35:10. > :35:10.confrontation of the More than 120 officers

:35:11. > :35:13.and miners were injured, Campaigners claim police

:35:14. > :35:16.used excessive force That's a summary of the latest news,

:35:17. > :35:22.join me for BBC Newsroom Lewis Hamilton won the Mexican Grand

:35:23. > :35:33.Prix to cut Nico Rosberg's lead in the Formula One drivers'

:35:34. > :35:36.championship to 19 points, but there are only two races left

:35:37. > :35:39.to go this season and Hamilton has conceded that he may have left it

:35:40. > :35:42.too late in his title push, with Rosberg needing just a second

:35:43. > :35:44.and third place finish Just one point separates the top

:35:45. > :35:54.four in the Premier League after Chelsea beat Southampton 2-0

:35:55. > :35:56.to keep in touch with the leaders. Manchester City, Arsenal

:35:57. > :35:58.and Liverpool are level Andy Murray's quest to become

:35:59. > :36:02.World Number 1 is still on track. He beat Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to win

:36:03. > :36:05.the Vienna Open yesterday, Victory at the Paris Masters next

:36:06. > :36:11.weekend will knock Novak Djokovic off the top of the rankings

:36:12. > :36:17.if the Serb doesn't reach the final. And Sir Bradley Wiggins bowed out

:36:18. > :36:20.in front of his home crowd yesterday with a second place finish

:36:21. > :36:23.at the London six-day event. The 36-year-old is due to retire

:36:24. > :36:25.in the next fortnight, but did hint he could

:36:26. > :36:34.change his mind. I'll be back on the BBC News Channel

:36:35. > :36:40.in the next hour and beyond. A group of MPs says the government

:36:41. > :36:43.is wrong to keep claiming it's giving an extra ?10 billion

:36:44. > :36:46.to the NHS in England over The Health Committee has written

:36:47. > :36:50.to the chancellor to say using the figure gives the "false

:36:51. > :36:54.impression that the NHS We can speak now to

:36:55. > :36:58.Doctor Sarah Wollaston, the Conservative chair of the group

:36:59. > :37:13.of MPs who look at health matters. Is this a lie? It is giving an

:37:14. > :37:16.impression that the NHS is awash with cash when in fact health and

:37:17. > :37:19.social care is under enormous financial pressure. We've written to

:37:20. > :37:22.the Chancellor to set out why we think this is the wrong figure and

:37:23. > :37:30.what we feel he needs to look at in his Autumn Statement. They aren't

:37:31. > :37:33.mutually exclusive. You could be giving ?10 billion but it's not

:37:34. > :37:38.necessarily the case it is awash with cash. You saying that the ?10

:37:39. > :37:43.billion isn't the case? You can see how this figure has been arrived at

:37:44. > :37:46.but it's been arrived by adding an extra year to the spending review

:37:47. > :37:50.period which wouldn't normally be done. It's also referring

:37:51. > :37:54.specifically to a part of the health budget called the NHS England

:37:55. > :37:57.budget. That's been boosted by shifting money from other important

:37:58. > :38:01.parts of health spending like public health and the budgets we use for

:38:02. > :38:07.training and education. You can end up making one budget look bigger by

:38:08. > :38:10.moving it from other areas that are essential. I didn't think anyone is

:38:11. > :38:16.under the impression the NHS is awash with cash, are they? It's

:38:17. > :38:21.clear budgets are tight but the NHS is getting extra funding. The point

:38:22. > :38:25.is that inflation for the health service and social care runs far

:38:26. > :38:29.higher. If you look at the change in our population, we've had a 21%

:38:30. > :38:34.increase in the number of people over 65 in the last decade and 31%

:38:35. > :38:40.increase in the number of people over 85. Those kind of changes to

:38:41. > :38:47.our population puts pressure on. How do you address that? What with the

:38:48. > :38:51.funding be do you think? What we're saying is look at health and social

:38:52. > :38:55.care together rather than separate them. And bear in mind that unless

:38:56. > :38:59.we are focusing on things like prevention for the future, training

:39:00. > :39:03.our future workforce, all these things will add to future costs in

:39:04. > :39:07.the NHS. We are saying that we need to have a sustainable future funding

:39:08. > :39:14.model. There are lots of options up the. One thing is to show that

:39:15. > :39:17.health and social care will be sinking further into crisis over the

:39:18. > :39:21.next few years unless something is done to address that. Saying that

:39:22. > :39:25.its ten unfortunately makes it much harder to argue for more spending.

:39:26. > :39:33.We need to use the right figure which is 4.5 billion. We have got

:39:34. > :39:39.some breaking news to bring new from the courts. An interesting ruling on

:39:40. > :39:43.joint enterprise which is a law that allows people to be convicted of

:39:44. > :39:48.murder even if they do not inflict the fatal blow. Leading judges have

:39:49. > :39:53.refused to overturn guilty verdicts in what was the first test case

:39:54. > :39:59.joint enterprise challenge brought up a Supreme Court ruling raised the

:40:00. > :40:04.possibility hundreds of convictions could be unsafe. The Court of Appeal

:40:05. > :40:07.was ruling today on the cases of 12 men who have appealed their

:40:08. > :40:13.convictions of a murder under the joint enterprise rule. It follows an

:40:14. > :40:17.from the Supreme Court ruling that found judges have been supplying the

:40:18. > :40:23.wrath of 30 years and foresight of a fatal attack is not necessarily

:40:24. > :40:27.enough for a jury to convicted defendant of manslaughter. This was

:40:28. > :40:32.the first case following on from that ruling that was challenging the

:40:33. > :40:35.convictions of 12 men. They've lost their case. The judges in this case

:40:36. > :40:40.have refused to overturn the guilty verdicts. An interesting ruling. We

:40:41. > :40:43.will bring you more reaction from the court.

:40:44. > :40:46.An MP who was forced to borrow money and take out a loan

:40:47. > :40:48.just so she could afford to bury her eight-year-old son

:40:49. > :40:52.who was killed in a road accident - is speaking out for the first time

:40:53. > :40:55.about what she describes as the "darkest period of her life".

:40:56. > :40:58.Carolyn Harris - the Labour MP for Swansea East -

:40:59. > :41:01.was left with a ?1700 funeral bill - which she couldn't afford -

:41:02. > :41:03.for her son Martin who was killed in 1989.

:41:04. > :41:06.Now she is backing a new campaign to end council charges

:41:07. > :41:22.Thank you so much for coming in. Just to go back to what happened to

:41:23. > :41:26.you. You were a young mum, a divorced mum in 1989. You had two

:41:27. > :41:30.sons and you're out in the country when Martin was killed in a road

:41:31. > :41:36.accident. You described the two years that followed that, any parent

:41:37. > :41:40.could understand it exactly how you felt, as the darkest period of your

:41:41. > :41:49.life. What was it like? It must have been horrendous. It's beyond words.

:41:50. > :41:53.You can't imagine. You wake up every day and you have a different

:41:54. > :42:00.sensation. You just learn to live with that awful emptiness, the ache

:42:01. > :42:08.and the guilt. The anger. And you try to compensate by, for me it was

:42:09. > :42:12.to visit Martin's grave, every day if I could. Put flowers on his

:42:13. > :42:20.grave. You just can't believe this has happened to you. You never ever

:42:21. > :42:26.get over it. What kept you going? My three-year-old son. Stewart. He is

:42:27. > :42:31.now 31. I made a calculated decision, which one of my boys

:42:32. > :42:38.needed me more. I was able to bury Martin with my grandparents are the

:42:39. > :42:41.calculation was they were with grandma and grandpa. Stuart couldn't

:42:42. > :42:45.have coped with losing his mum and brother so close together so I was

:42:46. > :42:54.therefore Stuart. You were going through that, you had to then find a

:42:55. > :42:59.money to pay for a funeral that you didn't want to even be planning.

:43:00. > :43:05.Nobody expects to bury their child so no one expects to bury their

:43:06. > :43:10.child. Last time I saw Martin he was a bouncy happy child. You don't

:43:11. > :43:15.expect to lose him. When you are asked about things at the funeral,

:43:16. > :43:20.you don't think how much is that going to cost. You just think, this

:43:21. > :43:26.is my child, whatever I need to do, I will have. I know that I had

:43:27. > :43:30.several cars because we took Martin to church the night before. We had

:43:31. > :43:35.to funerals in effect. The undertaker was wonderful, he gave me

:43:36. > :43:40.massive discounts, I know he did, as did my church and might occur. The

:43:41. > :43:46.biggest cost was the actual burial cost because I was reopening the

:43:47. > :43:50.grave, which was quite expensive. When you see it in the cold light of

:43:51. > :43:54.day a month later written on paper, apart from the fact it looks really

:43:55. > :44:00.cold and you think, my God, where am I going to get this money from? We

:44:01. > :44:04.were fortunate that my husband is from a really close community, as I

:44:05. > :44:10.am. His mates in the pub did a whip around and they turned up out of the

:44:11. > :44:14.blue with ?1000 which left us with ?750. My mother and father offered

:44:15. > :44:19.to help us but my husband and I wanted to do it ourselves. Martin

:44:20. > :44:25.was my son and David wanted to support me in burying him. That

:44:26. > :44:29.shouldn't have to happen, the worst time of your life, having to

:44:30. > :44:33.scrabble around. I can remember sitting in the house, there were no

:44:34. > :44:35.mobiles then, waiting for David to phone me from the phone box outside

:44:36. > :44:49.the bank to say we've got the ?750. You then were not an MP. I had been

:44:50. > :44:53.a barmaid. I was looking after the kids then. Two years later, when I

:44:54. > :44:59.came out of this place, I worked as a dinner lady with mentally

:45:00. > :45:05.handicapped children. And physically handicapped children. I just wanted

:45:06. > :45:10.to do something, working with kids, who maybe didn't have the advantage

:45:11. > :45:15.is my son had had. Good health. From there, I got involved with all sorts

:45:16. > :45:20.of things, political, and ended up going to university at 34. I think

:45:21. > :45:23.it was losing Martin, probably, the catalyst for me and wanting to never

:45:24. > :45:27.be in that position again that I couldn't afford to provide for my

:45:28. > :45:33.children because my kids never went without. At that time, when I just

:45:34. > :45:38.didn't have the money, to pay for it. Now you are in a position where

:45:39. > :45:42.you can affect change. What do you want to see happen? I don't want any

:45:43. > :45:46.other parent to have that awful worry of where we are going to get

:45:47. > :45:50.the money from? 5000 kids will pass away in this country every year,

:45:51. > :45:55.4000 of those will be babies. You can't imagine what that feels like,

:45:56. > :46:01.that pain is absolutely unimaginable. Unless you've been

:46:02. > :46:06.there, you can't experience it. If the only thing we can do to make it

:46:07. > :46:09.slightly more restful for the parents, is not to have to worry

:46:10. > :46:14.about the cost of the funeral, it's not something any mother should be

:46:15. > :46:22.worrying about. What reaction had you had politically? I've not gone

:46:23. > :46:27.on Twitter. Other people have treated, and gone on Facebook, and

:46:28. > :46:32.I've had a tough weekend since the story came out. I made a decision to

:46:33. > :46:36.tell the story but did not expect to feel quite as bad. It's brought

:46:37. > :46:42.everything back. People are very supportive and I hope Philip Hammond

:46:43. > :46:49.can find it in his heart. Have you had any indication? No. It would

:46:50. > :46:52.mean the world to me. There's a mother out there who was going to be

:46:53. > :46:59.in the position I was 27 years ago, and my heart bleeds for him now.

:47:00. > :47:02.Thank you for coming in. Thank you. Let's bring you more on that

:47:03. > :47:07.breaking News that leading judges have refused to overturn guilty

:47:08. > :47:10.verdicts in the first test case joint enterprise challenges that

:47:11. > :47:12.were brought after a Supreme Court ruling raised the possibility

:47:13. > :47:18.hundreds of convictions could be unsafe. Five Coleman is outside of

:47:19. > :47:24.all court of justice. They have lost, haven't they, so tell us how

:47:25. > :47:27.significant this could be. They have lost so extraordinary scenes in

:47:28. > :47:31.court. Lord Chief Justice who gave the judgment left the court with

:47:32. > :47:37.screams and shouts of valid terms of the 12 men concerned bringing in his

:47:38. > :47:42.ears. Shouting, no justice, no peace. This is a really complicated

:47:43. > :47:47.area of law but let me explain it to you and why it is so significant.

:47:48. > :47:51.Back in February, the Supreme Court didn't extraordinary thing,

:47:52. > :47:54.basically saying the law that governs the conviction of

:47:55. > :47:59.accomplices, those people who played a lesser role in a crime, in

:48:00. > :48:05.particular murder, those who didn't wield the fatal blow, inflicted, the

:48:06. > :48:13.weapon, the law had been wrong and wrongly applied for 30 years. An

:48:14. > :48:18.incredible statement by the president of the Supreme Court. He

:48:19. > :48:20.said it's up to the Supreme Court to correct the position. The reason why

:48:21. > :48:26.it had been wrongly applied was the test had been simply if you were out

:48:27. > :48:33.in a group of people and one of them went on to kill or cause GBH, the

:48:34. > :48:39.test was, could you, another member of the group, foresee that that

:48:40. > :48:45.other person might either kill or cause serious harm? It was a test of

:48:46. > :48:49.foresight, not intention. The Supreme Court said that's wrong.

:48:50. > :48:53.Foresight alone is not enough. I have to say, it was seen by many as

:48:54. > :48:57.a low bar for prosecutors to cross and one which enabled them to throw

:48:58. > :49:04.the net over group saw gangs in particular of young men. The Supreme

:49:05. > :49:11.Court said no, the test must be has the accomplice intended to encourage

:49:12. > :49:17.or assist the person who physically killed? It meant that there were

:49:18. > :49:21.many people in fact, the campaign which campaigns on this issue, says

:49:22. > :49:25.they are in touch with up to 700 people who they say are in prison

:49:26. > :49:30.who may have been wrongly convicted under the old law, so there was an

:49:31. > :49:37.incredible air of anticipation as the first raft of cases came to the

:49:38. > :49:41.Court of Appeal to argue that these convictions should be overturned.

:49:42. > :49:47.This morning the hopes of those involved have been --. All of the

:49:48. > :49:52.appeals and applications have been turned down and what this indicates

:49:53. > :50:00.is the Court of Appeal is not going to open the floodgates, it won't be

:50:01. > :50:04.having appeals based simply on the fact that the old wrong law was

:50:05. > :50:09.applied that will lead to the quashing of convictions. I should

:50:10. > :50:12.add the lord Chief Justice emphasised this morning that the

:50:13. > :50:17.Supreme Court's judgment didn't mean, just because the old law was

:50:18. > :50:21.applied, the wrong law, a conviction should be quashed. One of the key

:50:22. > :50:24.reasons he absolutely emphasised this in court this morning was that

:50:25. > :50:29.the majority of these appeals were brought out of time. 20 days to

:50:30. > :50:34.bring an appeal against a conviction. These were long after

:50:35. > :50:38.that and if you do that, you have to do seek exceptional leave from the

:50:39. > :50:43.Court of Appeal. The Court of Appeal has to be satisfied if they don't

:50:44. > :50:46.grant you that lead, you will suffer a substantial injustice. The judges

:50:47. > :50:49.looked carefully at that issue and come to the conclusion that a very

:50:50. > :50:56.high bar for people who are appealing to cross and they have

:50:57. > :51:00.therefore turned down all of these appeals and applications for leave

:51:01. > :51:04.to appeal. It is a crushing blow for the families of those in court today

:51:05. > :51:10.who were hoping for better. Thank you very much, Clive. Let's go back

:51:11. > :51:13.to the other breaking news this morning, the story that another

:51:14. > :51:18.candidate has pulled out of the race to become the next leader of the UK

:51:19. > :51:21.Independence Party. Raheem Kassam, a former aide to Nigel Farage, has

:51:22. > :51:27.withdrawn just three days before he launched a campaign. We can speak to

:51:28. > :51:32.her Ukip MEP. What you think about this? I'm not particularly

:51:33. > :51:38.surprised. I think he didn't really have the depth to mount a credible

:51:39. > :51:42.campaign. The other thing is, he's been widely criticised for the sort

:51:43. > :51:53.of offensive language used on social media. We seem to have lost the

:51:54. > :51:58.line. Can use to hear me, Roger? No, unfortunately not. We have lost him.

:51:59. > :52:05.We will try to speak to him if we can restore the connection. Let's

:52:06. > :52:11.move on to those drug treatment centres. Drug addicts can go to take

:52:12. > :52:15.heroin. Under the watch of various health workers.

:52:16. > :52:17.HIV, botulism and anthrax are on the increase in Glasgow

:52:18. > :52:22.because heroin users get their fix using dirty needles in dirty places.

:52:23. > :52:25.Is part of the answer what's being called "fix rooms" -

:52:26. > :52:29.safe places to inject heroin- provided by the state?

:52:30. > :52:31.That's the proposal which looks likely to be agreed in Glasgow

:52:32. > :52:33.today by the police, the council and the

:52:34. > :52:40.The move aims to address the problems caused by an estimated

:52:41. > :52:42.500 or so users who inject on Glasgow's streets.

:52:43. > :52:45.Such facilities have already been running across Europe for decades.

:52:46. > :52:49.We can talk now to Rasmus Koberg Christiansen,

:52:50. > :52:52.who runs a drug consumption room in Copenhagen - and Cedric Charvet,

:52:53. > :52:56.who runs a drug consumption room in Amsterdam.

:52:57. > :53:04.Thank you both very much for joining us. Tell us how your centre works,

:53:05. > :53:10.how many people use it and what impact you think it had. Yes, we've

:53:11. > :53:19.had a drug consumption room in Copenhagen for four and a half

:53:20. > :53:25.years. We have between 500-700 drug users in the centre every day. In

:53:26. > :53:31.the time we have been running, we have had almost 600 overdose

:53:32. > :53:38.situations and no one has died in our centre. What about if you got so

:53:39. > :53:42.many coming every day, if any indication any of them turn away

:53:43. > :53:46.from drugs after coming into contact with people who could put them onto

:53:47. > :53:53.a different path? We are talking about a group of people here, very

:53:54. > :53:56.hard drug users, so, of course, when we talk to them and they come to our

:53:57. > :54:03.centre, we build up relations with them and then we can also point them

:54:04. > :54:07.in a direction where they can get treatment and stuff like that so,

:54:08. > :54:10.yes, it happens. It's more about making sure that these honourable

:54:11. > :54:17.people don't die rather than making sure they go down a different path?

:54:18. > :54:23.The first step is that they don't die and then a second step is tied

:54:24. > :54:27.to up relations so they can find a different path, yes. Cedric, what is

:54:28. > :54:35.the situation with your room in and put them -- Amsterdam? We're

:54:36. > :54:44.operating those facilities for more than 15 years. On a smaller scale

:54:45. > :54:50.from the previous guest. We tried to have integrated facilities spread

:54:51. > :54:56.around big cities which does not concentrate users. In terms of

:54:57. > :55:05.treatment, we are there to limit the risk of using drugs, prevention of

:55:06. > :55:13.blood transmission diseases. Even more now than drug-related deaths.

:55:14. > :55:20.In fact, none of them, no overdose in our facilities. The benefit of

:55:21. > :55:28.our organisation is most likely to prevent blood transmitted disease,

:55:29. > :55:35.overdose and also the drug scene, drug use, all of those related

:55:36. > :55:42.impacts has a major impact on the public in general and public

:55:43. > :55:51.resources. We try to tackle that as much as the impact of drug use on

:55:52. > :55:55.the individual. People who don't like these rooms are concerned about

:55:56. > :56:00.the message it sends out, which is indicating that actually, it's OK to

:56:01. > :56:06.take illegal drugs. People who do not like those rooms should maybe

:56:07. > :56:12.ask users what they think about it, since what we see and feedback we

:56:13. > :56:19.have from our direct neighbours, policymakers supporting us, it's a

:56:20. > :56:24.positive impact at all levels. As an individual level for the drug users,

:56:25. > :56:30.and for the general public. You understand, it goes both ways. It in

:56:31. > :56:35.the interests of all of us. Thank you both very much. Let's go back to

:56:36. > :56:41.the Ukip MEP, were talking to him a moment ago. He is able to talk to us

:56:42. > :56:44.again now about the fact that Raheem Kassam, former aide to Nigel Farage,

:56:45. > :56:49.has withdrawn from the race to become the next Ukip leader. Thank

:56:50. > :56:55.you for coming back to us, Roger. You were saying you win surprised

:56:56. > :57:02.that he has gone. -- you were not surprised. In terms of where Ukip is

:57:03. > :57:05.now, how do you assess it? We need a strong leader who can unite the

:57:06. > :57:10.party and who has a real in-depth knowledge of how the party works

:57:11. > :57:14.across-the-board, from the branches and the regions through to the

:57:15. > :57:21.executive committee, through to the MEP group in Brussels. I strongly

:57:22. > :57:28.feel that Paul Nuttall is the man. The bookies agree with me on that.

:57:29. > :57:32.And what should the political message be from Ukip because

:57:33. > :57:39.obviously we are in a post-Brexit situation now. The broader political

:57:40. > :57:43.message is very simple. Theresa May has said Brexit means Brexit, but

:57:44. > :57:48.what does Brexit mean? I understand they're not going to offer a running

:57:49. > :57:52.commentary. What Ukip is saying is we voted to leave, which means

:57:53. > :57:56.leaving the single market, controlling our borders, getting the

:57:57. > :58:02.fisheries back, no contributions to the EU budget, not subject to EU

:58:03. > :58:06.rule, we will be an independent nation and, like other independent

:58:07. > :58:11.nations, we will be free to negotiate a free trade deal with the

:58:12. > :58:12.European Union. We are right out of time. Thank you very much for

:58:13. > :58:15.joining us. On the programme tomorrow

:58:16. > :58:17.we'll speak to some of the Daily Mirror Pride

:58:18. > :58:34.of Britain winners. They want our physicality

:58:35. > :58:38.and our musicality.