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:00:08. > :00:17.This morning: Why would a parent turn their child against their ex?

:00:18. > :00:22.It's called parental alienation and leading experts say it's time

:00:23. > :00:23.the courts recognised it and starting punishing

:00:24. > :00:26.Throughout the programme this morning we'll hear

:00:27. > :00:38.I felt like a leper. I used to walk into the playground and feel like a

:00:39. > :00:41.leper. What mother doesn't have the children? She must have done

:00:42. > :00:51.something awful. A terrible experience. And I tell other

:00:52. > :00:52.children to follow what your mind says, not what you are made to

:00:53. > :00:55.believe. If it's happened to you after

:00:56. > :00:58.you split up from your partner, Also on the programme: Should

:00:59. > :01:01.cannabis be legalised? It's a question that's asked

:01:02. > :01:05.regularly and now a group of MPs has described the UK's drugs policy

:01:06. > :01:06.as an embarrassment. They want us to follow America's

:01:07. > :01:09.lead where in several states, Andy Murray ends the year as world

:01:10. > :01:32.number one in quite some style. We'll get reaction throughout

:01:33. > :01:34.the programme and speak to one Throughout the morning we'll bring

:01:35. > :01:52.you the latest breaking news and developing stories and as always

:01:53. > :01:55.we want to hear from you, particularly if you've experienced

:01:56. > :01:56.parental alienation. And a little later we'll talk

:01:57. > :01:59.about whether Gareth Southgate is the best man to lead

:02:00. > :02:01.the England team. Do get in touch on all the stories

:02:02. > :02:06.we're talking about this morning. If you text, you will be charged

:02:07. > :02:10.at the standard network rate. Theresa May will pledge to keep

:02:11. > :02:14.Britain's corporation tax the lowest In her first speech to business

:02:15. > :02:18.leaders at the CBI, the Prime Minister will also

:02:19. > :02:20.announce ?2 billion of new investment every year

:02:21. > :02:22.in science and technology. Our political correspondent

:02:23. > :02:27.Tom Bateman has more. At the cutting edge of science,

:02:28. > :02:30.this DNA lab in Oxford is the kind of place Theresa May has in mind

:02:31. > :02:33.as she promises extra cash The Prime Minister has been courting

:02:34. > :02:43.business leaders lately. Today's announcement of a further

:02:44. > :02:45.?2 billion a year for science and technology is an attempt

:02:46. > :02:51.to create a thriving environment amid what her Chancellor has called

:02:52. > :02:56.the uncertainty of Brexit. She also wants to put

:02:57. > :03:03.a spotlight on what she thinks is Britain's

:03:04. > :03:05.competitive advantage - The Prime Minister will say she aims

:03:06. > :03:10.to maintain the lowest corporation tax rate in the G20,

:03:11. > :03:13.the group of 20 major economies. The levy here is due to fall

:03:14. > :03:15.from its current 20% In the US, Donald Trump

:03:16. > :03:21.said during his election campaign he would seek

:03:22. > :03:24.to cut the federal rate to 15%. The Treasury still

:03:25. > :03:29.thinks the UK would In reality, lifting the US rate.

:03:30. > :03:38.because of extra state taxes. The Prime Minister will say

:03:39. > :03:40.she believes in free markets but wants businesses to act

:03:41. > :03:43.responsibly, saying the Brexit vote showed people also want the wealth

:03:44. > :03:47.spread more evenly across the UK. Labour has criticised the focus

:03:48. > :03:50.on bringing down corporation Jeremy Corbyn will tell business

:03:51. > :03:54.leaders today that future growth is being threatened

:03:55. > :04:00.by a chaotic and mishandled Brexit. Let's speak to Norman Smith who's

:04:01. > :04:13.at the CBI conference Theresa May is setting out her

:04:14. > :04:17.industrial strategy. How different will it be from the David Cameron

:04:18. > :04:22.and George Osborne there? She sees it as a big moment. If you say

:04:23. > :04:26.national industrial strategy to most people they don't think it sounds

:04:27. > :04:30.very interesting, but for her it is about the change of direction.

:04:31. > :04:35.Conventional Tory wisdom is that you don't intervene, you leave it to the

:04:36. > :04:38.markets to decide. Mrs May is saying there will now be a different

:04:39. > :04:42.approach and they will put money into helping high-tech developing

:04:43. > :04:46.companies, and they will try and help them go from the good idea

:04:47. > :04:52.stage to the big business stage. There will be more work on trying to

:04:53. > :04:56.ensure tax breaks for RND, and that is about trying to come up with some

:04:57. > :05:04.kind of forward plan for the British economy. -- R The issues are

:05:05. > :05:08.these. We have been here so many times before. So many politicians

:05:09. > :05:12.have talked about an industrial strategy, going all the way back to

:05:13. > :05:16.Harold Wilson in the 1960s talking about the white heat of technology.

:05:17. > :05:20.The other thing that strikes me about it, we know Mrs May wants to

:05:21. > :05:25.help those who are unattractively referred to as the jams, just about

:05:26. > :05:30.managing. And the difficulty with high-tech specialised companies,

:05:31. > :05:35.they don't employ lots of people, they don't Barolo skilled people, by

:05:36. > :05:40.and large they only employ very highly paid, very highly skilled

:05:41. > :05:46.often migrant Labour. There it is not clear how this will help those

:05:47. > :05:49.they want to help. Businesses would like clarity when it comes to Brexit

:05:50. > :05:58.and they will not get that for a while. No. There is an almighty

:05:59. > :06:01.elephant sitting on the stage called Mr Brexit. Business people want to

:06:02. > :06:05.know what will happen because uncertainty is the kiss of death for

:06:06. > :06:08.business and they like to know where things are going. They will not get

:06:09. > :06:13.any clear indication from Mrs May today because that has been her

:06:14. > :06:17.default position. She will not disclose any details because she

:06:18. > :06:19.doesn't want to reveal her negotiating position. Already

:06:20. > :06:24.business leaders are saying, come on. We have got to know. Will we

:06:25. > :06:36.have tariff free access to the single market? Can we recruit from

:06:37. > :06:39.outside Britain the kind of people we want? We need a plan. It will be

:06:40. > :06:40.interesting to see what sort of response she gets from bosses here.

:06:41. > :06:42.Thank you. And we'll bring you Theresa May's

:06:43. > :06:44.speech live later in the programme. We're expecting her to

:06:45. > :06:46.start at about 9.45. Joanna Gosling is in the BBC

:06:47. > :06:49.newsroom with a summary There's been a surprise result

:06:50. > :06:53.in one of the battles to decide who'll be the next

:06:54. > :06:55.President of France. The former President Nicolas Sarkozy

:06:56. > :06:57.was unexpectedly eliminated in the first round of voting

:06:58. > :06:59.to select a candidate for The former Prime Minister,

:07:00. > :07:12.Francois Fillon, topped the poll. As a former President, you can jump

:07:13. > :07:17.to the top of the queue when it comes to the voting. Not when it

:07:18. > :07:21.comes to the counting though. The first nationwide ballot next year's

:07:22. > :07:26.presidential race has ruled that Nicolas Sarkozy is out. Within hours

:07:27. > :07:34.of polls closing, he broke the news to his supporters. I wasn't able to

:07:35. > :07:38.convince a majority of voters. I respect and understand their will to

:07:39. > :07:43.choose other political leaders than me. But I want to congratulate

:07:44. > :07:47.Francois Fillon and Alain Juppe who qualify for the second round. They

:07:48. > :07:50.are two people of great quality who honour the French right wing. The

:07:51. > :07:56.way this primary has been organised means it is open to tactical voting.

:07:57. > :08:00.Supporters of the left or the far right can come here and vote for the

:08:01. > :08:04.candidate they would like to see run against Marine Le Pen next year. The

:08:05. > :08:11.surprise winner in this first test of voter mood was Francois Fillon.

:08:12. > :08:16.Once Mr Sarkozy's Prime Minister, now his nemesis. His nearest rival,

:08:17. > :08:20.the moderate centrist Alain Juppe, once tipped as the favourite, now

:08:21. > :08:25.facing an uphill battle for his party's nomination. The first round

:08:26. > :08:31.result was a surprise, he said. France has now delivered the first

:08:32. > :08:32.of its own election surprises. How many more will follow? Lucy

:08:33. > :08:36.Williamson, BBC News, Paris. There are calls for parents

:08:37. > :08:38.who deliberately turn a child against their other parent

:08:39. > :08:40.during divorce or separation proceedings to face a fine

:08:41. > :08:42.or even imprisonment. Judges say they often see

:08:43. > :08:45.what it known as parental alienation but have no power

:08:46. > :08:47.to punish those involved. Victoria will have more

:08:48. > :08:53.on that just after 09:15. The Home Office is disregarding

:08:54. > :08:55.and mistreating medical evidence of torture in UK asylum claims,

:08:56. > :08:58.according to a new report by the Asylum seekers in the UK who claim

:08:59. > :09:04.they are torture victims can have medical assessments

:09:05. > :09:17.to verify their claims. But the charity has told this

:09:18. > :09:19.programme officials of the these assessments and judges are

:09:20. > :09:27.correcting poor judgment at considerable cost to taxpayers.

:09:28. > :09:29.The Home Office said an exceptionally small sample

:09:30. > :09:31.was used in the report and all evidence is considered.

:09:32. > :09:33.Britain's defences are at risk because the number of warships

:09:34. > :09:35.available to the Royal Navy is woefully low,

:09:36. > :09:38.that's according to MPs on the House of Commons Defence Select Committee.

:09:39. > :09:41.They say the UK could lack the maritime strength to deal

:09:42. > :09:44.with potential threats and warn that the size of the fleet

:09:45. > :09:46.could shrink even further unless there is a clear timetable

:09:47. > :09:49.The government insists it is spending billions on

:09:50. > :09:55.One of the professional dancers from Strictly Come Dancing has been

:09:56. > :09:57.assaulted in the street after taking part in the show's

:09:58. > :10:01.Gorka Marquez, who was partnered with EastEnders actress

:10:02. > :10:04.Tameka Empson, is reported to have been attacked by a group of young

:10:05. > :10:08.He is due to have dental surgery after two of his teeth were knocked

:10:09. > :10:13.out, but the BBC says he will appear in this week's programme.

:10:14. > :10:17.President Obama says he won't publicly criticise

:10:18. > :10:21.the President-elect Donald Trump after he leaves office

:10:22. > :10:23.but will speak out if he believes American values are threatened.

:10:24. > :10:25.By convention, former presidents avoid commenting

:10:26. > :10:29.President Obama said he reserved the right to speak out

:10:30. > :10:32.on certain issues as a private citizen.

:10:33. > :10:36.And there was controversy at the American Music Awards

:10:37. > :10:38.in Los Angeles last night, after performers mocked

:10:39. > :10:42.Co-host Gigi Hadid was heavily criticised on social

:10:43. > :10:44.media for impersonating Mr Trump's wife Melania,

:10:45. > :10:46.while the band Green Day turned their song Bang Bang

:10:47. > :10:48.into an anti-Trump anthem at the ceremony broadcast

:10:49. > :10:56.Lead singer Billy Joe Armstrong repeatedly chanted "No Trump!

:10:57. > :11:06.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:11:07. > :11:21.Thank you. We are already getting messages about parental alienation.

:11:22. > :11:26.This tweet says it is often due to a narcissistic personality disorder.

:11:27. > :11:31.Mike says he has lost years with his daughter and we shouldn't forget the

:11:32. > :11:36.dads. And this one says too many people will restrict visiting rights

:11:37. > :11:39.in the mistaken belief that child will love them more but they destroy

:11:40. > :11:44.their child's ability to forge close relationships in the future and they

:11:45. > :11:47.often resent the child that chose to go it alone. It is crucial the

:11:48. > :11:51.parents at the best interests of the child and not themselves. Tim

:11:52. > :11:55.reveals he hasn't seen his kids since 2012 and the reason why

:11:56. > :12:01.doesn't exist as far as the is concerned. Great to see this topic

:12:02. > :12:04.being covered today. And Brenda said she hasn't seen her oldest child in

:12:05. > :12:09.six years and are two children have never met each other because of

:12:10. > :12:13.this. Parental alienation should be criminalised. We will discuss that

:12:14. > :12:16.aspect of it later. Please get in touch with your own experiences and

:12:17. > :12:21.they will be part of our conversation today. If you are

:12:22. > :12:24.texting, you will be charged at the standard network rate. Now we can

:12:25. > :12:30.get the sport with Katherine Downes. What an amazing year Andy Murray has

:12:31. > :12:33.had. Incredible! He has always said that being world number one has been

:12:34. > :12:38.a massive room for him and he got there a couple of weeks ago in Paris

:12:39. > :12:42.but ending the year as world number one has been a massive driver for

:12:43. > :12:50.him all season long. He spent over three hours more on court than Novak

:12:51. > :12:53.Djokovic before the match yesterday and there were concerns that he

:12:54. > :12:57.would be tired because of that but in the end it showed that the big

:12:58. > :13:01.match sharpness came through for Andy Murray, with Djokovic making 30

:13:02. > :13:06.unforced errors, uncharacteristically for him. Murray

:13:07. > :13:10.came out 6-3, 6-4. The fact he had clinched the top spot against Novak

:13:11. > :13:15.Djokovic is significant for Andy Murray. He has often lacked belief

:13:16. > :13:19.against Djokovic in the past because he has often come out on top against

:13:20. > :13:23.Andy Murray but this means that Andy Murray will start 2017 on the front

:13:24. > :13:29.foot when it comes to their rivalry. This is what he had to say after the

:13:30. > :13:35.match yesterday. I just did not expect to do it, that's for sure. If

:13:36. > :13:40.Novak had won one or two more matches in that period, I still

:13:41. > :13:46.wouldn't have done it. It has taken a lot of work this year to do it. I

:13:47. > :13:50.certainly was very far away in a middle part of the year before

:13:51. > :13:54.Wimbledon. In a second half of the year, after the French Open, it has

:13:55. > :13:59.been the best of my career and I am really happy I managed to do it. So

:14:00. > :14:03.brilliant for him but actually there are two number ones in the Murray

:14:04. > :14:06.family. We have never had a British singles player on top of the world

:14:07. > :14:20.rankings before so of course we have never had two British players at the

:14:21. > :14:22.top of the world rankings before. Jamie Murray and his partner Bruno

:14:23. > :14:25.Suarez clinched the top spot earlier on in the week. They couldn't add

:14:26. > :14:27.the World Tour Finals to their collection but they have finished

:14:28. > :14:29.the year as world number one. They have had a great season together

:14:30. > :14:32.winning three titles, winning the Australia Open and the US Open. Two

:14:33. > :14:36.Murray brothers at the top of the rankings. What a Christmas in their

:14:37. > :14:45.house! And the reaction around the world on social media quotes back

:14:46. > :14:50.row -- on social media? The best one is from their mother. Andy and Jamie

:14:51. > :14:55.Murray, the pride of Scotland. The way they were. Lots of photographs

:14:56. > :15:15.of them when they were younger. At Roger Federer:

:15:16. > :15:23.I would not be surprised if we had Sir Andy Murray in the not too

:15:24. > :15:26.distant future. Thank you. And we will be speaking to one of his

:15:27. > :15:29.former coaches later on in the programme.

:15:30. > :15:32.Parental alienation is when one parent deliberately turns a child

:15:33. > :15:34.against the other parent during a divorce or separation.

:15:35. > :15:37.It affects both mothers and fathers equally and can devastate families,

:15:38. > :15:39.causing long-term psychological damage to children.

:15:40. > :15:42.In some countries, governments have put in place legislation

:15:43. > :15:44.to prevent such behaviour, with parents facing fines

:15:45. > :15:50.But in the UK, judges say there are no punishments.

:15:51. > :15:54.Our reporter Mike Cowan has been to meet some of those affected.

:15:55. > :15:57.The names and voices of people we've spoken to have been changed

:15:58. > :16:11.How can he look after a young child if he's done this?

:16:12. > :16:16.Five minutes before the end he turned to me and said,

:16:17. > :16:20.I don't know them now. It's seven years, I don't know them.

:16:21. > :16:32.I don't know what their ambitions, their goals, their dreams are.

:16:33. > :16:40.So parental alienation is a set of behaviours that a parent,

:16:41. > :16:44.one parent might employ to alienate a child against the other parent.

:16:45. > :16:48.Alienation in its pure form is the unjustified rejection

:16:49. > :16:52.by a child of a parent who they once loved deeply.

:16:53. > :16:58.Parental alienation takes place where you have a situation of high

:16:59. > :17:02.conflict, and the relationship is such that one parent

:17:03. > :17:04.really undermines the role that the other parent has

:17:05. > :17:15.5% of children involved in divorce or separation will experience some

:17:16. > :17:21.That equates to 5,000 children annually, but it's

:17:22. > :17:29.Leading family experts claim it's closer to 20,000.

:17:30. > :17:32.In all the stories you're about to see, we couldn't

:17:33. > :17:39.approach the other parent for reasons of anonymity.

:17:40. > :17:44.Her marriage broke down before her youngest child's second birthday.

:17:45. > :17:46.What ensued was a six-year legal battle that would

:17:47. > :17:52.leave her financially and emotionally depleted.

:17:53. > :17:55.At what point did you suspect that your children were

:17:56. > :18:02.It probably wasn't for at least a year or so that I realised

:18:03. > :18:06.that these behaviours, these attitudes, the need to take

:18:07. > :18:08.control, that he'd started making allegations against me that I'd

:18:09. > :18:17.Alison's relationship with her children quickly broke

:18:18. > :18:25.In a public judgment on your case, the judge said, and I'm paraphrasing

:18:26. > :18:28.partly here, "I find that the father's attitude

:18:29. > :18:31.towards the mother, his refusal to let the boys be seen,

:18:32. > :18:34.his complete subjugation to their views and their reaction

:18:35. > :18:37.and attitude to their mother, in which he is complicit,

:18:38. > :18:51.When a judge says those things, how does the father retain custody?

:18:52. > :18:53.The judge, by making that statement, it should have rung

:18:54. > :19:03.There was something seriously remiss with my ex-husband's behaviour.

:19:04. > :19:08.His inability to promote a relationship with me for the boys.

:19:09. > :19:11.What he failed to recognise is the damage had been

:19:12. > :19:16.The judge went on to say that the children were displaying

:19:17. > :19:21."a violent and dangerous antipathy to the mother," to you.

:19:22. > :19:24.The father, "far from helping them, has, by his own views,

:19:25. > :19:28.what he has shown and told them and what he has

:19:29. > :19:31.permitted them to say, fostered that feeling.

:19:32. > :19:37.Unfortunately, this is the toothless nature of the family courts.

:19:38. > :19:39.I have a shared residency order which gives me legal equal

:19:40. > :19:42.parental responsibility, but it's about enforcing that.

:19:43. > :19:46.Unfortunately, the only way to have enforced that is for the children

:19:47. > :19:52.to be either engaged in some sort of restorative practice

:19:53. > :20:02.and mechanism to ensure that they came back to stay with me,

:20:03. > :20:06.but they would need support to do so because their views about me

:20:07. > :20:17.The judge, whilst critical of the father, did note statements

:20:18. > :20:20.where the father said there was no evidence he had promoted a negative

:20:21. > :20:26.The judge also noted the father had provided a number of witnesses

:20:27. > :20:30.who attested the boys were happy in his care.

:20:31. > :20:35.I used to walk into the playground and feel like a leper.

:20:36. > :20:37.What mother doesn't have her children?

:20:38. > :20:42.It's been seven years since you last spoke to your children.

:20:43. > :20:48.Yes, at my youngest son's final school play in primary school.

:20:49. > :20:52.I haven't seen them, I haven't spoken to them since.

:20:53. > :21:02.How difficult is it to write to them and not hear back?

:21:03. > :21:05.The internal emotional trauma to sit down every month

:21:06. > :21:13.And try and think of things to write to my children, because,

:21:14. > :21:16.sadly and heartbreakingly, I don't know them now.

:21:17. > :21:19.It's seven years, I don't know them, I don't know what their interests

:21:20. > :21:23.are, I don't know who their friends are, I don't know

:21:24. > :21:25.what their ambitions, their goals, their dreams are.

:21:26. > :21:32.I don't know if my boys will find their way back to me.

:21:33. > :21:35.How difficult is it for you to say, as a mother, you don't

:21:36. > :21:48.To this day, I kiss a photo of my boys on my computer screen

:21:49. > :21:59.I just want them to always be happy, be healthy, and have

:22:00. > :22:04.And I will always be there, whenever, however.

:22:05. > :22:18.But what effect will this have on the child?

:22:19. > :22:20.Dr Fiona Pienaar is director of clinical services

:22:21. > :22:24.at the children's mental health charity Place2Be.

:22:25. > :22:29.So if we don't catch the issue early on and support children

:22:30. > :22:32.when the parental alienation starts, then the concern is that they carry

:22:33. > :22:34.this through into adolescence, when they're starting to form

:22:35. > :22:38.closer relationships and more intimate relationships.

:22:39. > :22:40.And the concern, really, is around that if your primary

:22:41. > :22:43.caregivers have been distrustful and alienated each other, then

:22:44. > :22:48.It can be really difficult to have a sense of trust

:22:49. > :22:50.for somebody that you're forming a relationship with,

:22:51. > :22:53.so you can have your, we say have your radar hot all the time,

:22:54. > :22:59.constantly looking for any changes in behaviours, and really unable

:23:00. > :23:07.And on into young adulthood it can have a generational impact,

:23:08. > :23:11.because if that's been your modelling of how you form

:23:12. > :23:15.an intimate relationship, then the chances are that you might

:23:16. > :23:21.have challenges with an intimate relationship yourself,

:23:22. > :23:24.and that may then be modelled down to your children.

:23:25. > :23:25.Cafcass is the Government organisation that represents

:23:26. > :23:31.Chris was forced to have dealings with them for over a decade.

:23:32. > :23:34.Six months after his son was born, he returned home to find his

:23:35. > :23:43.It's not meant to be, but the Cafcass process is actually

:23:44. > :23:48.a weapon for any vindictive parent, for them to wield.

:23:49. > :23:54.How would you interpret it when the mother of your son turns

:23:55. > :23:57.to you and says, "Why do you want overnight contact with a small boy?"

:23:58. > :24:02.She said to me, "If you are awarded overnight contact,

:24:03. > :24:10.We went on for about the next, until he was five years old,

:24:11. > :24:14.but the contact was continually frustrated.

:24:15. > :24:18.I think it was in August when I got to see my son for one hour,

:24:19. > :24:20.supervised, during which time he'd enjoyed playing a computer

:24:21. > :24:25.game with me in front of a Cafcass officer.

:24:26. > :24:28.But five minutes before the end he turned to me and said,

:24:29. > :24:32.So that, for you, was confirmation that you are now being

:24:33. > :24:35.But what did Cafcass do about it?

:24:36. > :24:47.I wrote to him, that's where your letters come in,

:24:48. > :24:49.I wrote him 80-odd letters, just one way.

:24:50. > :24:53.When his son was nine, Chris reapplied for

:24:54. > :24:58.Perhaps selfishly I thought to myself, you know what,

:24:59. > :25:02.when he turns 21, 31, whatever age he is, when he comes

:25:03. > :25:05.knocking on my door saying, "Dad, why didn't you do this," I can

:25:06. > :25:10.give him the papers and say, "Look, I did everything I possibly could."

:25:11. > :25:13.By the time Chris' son was 12, the pair had been reunited and were

:25:14. > :25:20.When you look back at that 11-year battle to have access

:25:21. > :25:28.and contact with your child, what is your residing thought?

:25:29. > :25:31.Sadness, that so much has been lost, that he could have had

:25:32. > :25:43.For parents experiencing separation or divorce,

:25:44. > :25:45.there are clear indicators that a child may be being alienated.

:25:46. > :25:47.Karen Woodall from the Family Separation Clinic is one

:25:48. > :25:55.When I hear people say to me, "I don't know what's wrong with him,

:25:56. > :26:00.he comes to my house, doesn't say a word for two hours,

:26:01. > :26:03.and then all of a sudden it's like he snaps out of it, something

:26:04. > :26:10.When I hear that, I ask them to tell me about the two hours prior

:26:11. > :26:13.to the child going back to the other parent, and what I'm hearing is,

:26:14. > :26:15."Oh, he becomes really grumpy, he becomes very withdrawn,

:26:16. > :26:18.he's very unhappy, sometimes he's crying, he doesn't want to go back

:26:19. > :26:25.What I'm hearing when I'm hearing that are the behaviours

:26:26. > :26:27.of children in transition, children who are vulnerable

:26:28. > :26:37.Around the world there is growing recognition of parental alienation.

:26:38. > :26:41.In the US, the courts can intervene at the start of a separation,

:26:42. > :26:46.ordering the parents attend mediation in high-conflict cases.

:26:47. > :26:49.In Mexico, alienating a parent carries a 15-year jail term.

:26:50. > :26:53.While in Italy, alienation carries a fine.

:26:54. > :26:55.In October, a mother was fined 30,000 euros

:26:56. > :27:06.We have no legislation at all for parental alienation,

:27:07. > :27:09.but judges are starting to recognise it, and it's led to some

:27:10. > :27:10.children being removed from the alienating parent.

:27:11. > :27:13.The family courts, though, are not given any official

:27:14. > :27:17.guidance on alienation from the Ministry of Justice.

:27:18. > :27:21.But Cafcass, the organisation that represent children, do provide

:27:22. > :27:29.Parents are increasingly having to navigate the complex

:27:30. > :27:37.Sandra Davis is the head of family law at Mishcon de Reya.

:27:38. > :27:43.The family court system is currently creaking with the withdrawal

:27:44. > :27:46.of Legal Aid and litigants acting in person, so whilst it's obviously

:27:47. > :27:49.incumbent on judges to try and move these cases through as quickly

:27:50. > :27:52.as possible and to arrive at consistent judging,

:27:53. > :27:59.So I think it would be of real assistance to have mandatory

:28:00. > :28:02.mediation, mandatory therapeutic involvement at an early stage

:28:03. > :28:07.of the process so that, actually, positions don't become too

:28:08. > :28:10.ingrained and the child, children, do have a chance

:28:11. > :28:21.of maintaining a relationship before it sours completely.

:28:22. > :28:23.It's the impact on the child that can be the most damaging.

:28:24. > :28:26.14-year-old Emma was seven when her parents divorced.

:28:27. > :28:30.Over the next two years, she was severely alienated

:28:31. > :28:37.My brother went away from home to my dad's,

:28:38. > :28:40.because my dad was saying he could give him everything

:28:41. > :28:46.he wanted and he wouldn't get in trouble for anything.

:28:47. > :28:49.And when he went away, me, my brother and my sister had

:28:50. > :28:52.never been separated, so it was, if my brother's going,

:28:53. > :28:56.I want to go, because we're siblings and siblings stick together.

:28:57. > :29:03.For a time, the kids had contact with their mum,

:29:04. > :29:10.He'd ring up and say, "Oh, the kids are busy,

:29:11. > :29:14.we're going to do something, they can't see their mum today."

:29:15. > :29:18.My mum would be already halfway there and she'd get the phone call

:29:19. > :29:22.to say that we're busy and we can't see her.

:29:23. > :29:24.Did you know that at the time?

:29:25. > :29:30.At the time all we knew was that my mum had let us down,

:29:31. > :29:33.that she'd been out drinking the night before and that she had

:29:34. > :29:36.a hangover, so she couldn't be bothered to come.

:29:37. > :29:45.When your dad would say things to you, like,

:29:46. > :29:48."Oh your mum's got a hangover, she's not coming today,"

:29:49. > :29:54.I thought that my mum was never like that,

:29:55. > :29:57.my mum would never drink loads, she's not that type of person.

:29:58. > :30:01.But if that's what my dad's saying, I believe him, that she's a liar,

:30:02. > :30:05.that everything that's happened is her fault, that she doesn't love

:30:06. > :30:11.us and she's being a bully towards him and us, and that's why

:30:12. > :30:26.One day, in 2013, Emma got an unexpected message from her mum.

:30:27. > :30:29.She's saying that she loves me, that she's been made out to be this

:30:30. > :30:33.She sent me this picture of me, my brother and my sister

:30:34. > :30:42.It just made me think, why would my mum send me

:30:43. > :30:45.You didn't know at the time that you

:30:46. > :30:50.With me only being nine, until the age of 12 I didn't

:30:51. > :30:56.I was threatened with all sorts by my father.

:30:57. > :31:00.I turned around and told him, "I want to see my mum," and he said,

:31:01. > :31:04."No, if you carry on the way you're behaving you'll be put into a foster

:31:05. > :31:13.home, a care home, because we won't be able to look after you any more."

:31:14. > :31:16.Over the next few months, Emma ran away from her father's home

:31:17. > :31:23.Eventually, she was reunited with her mum for good.

:31:24. > :31:27.As soon as I went in, the police were phoned to report

:31:28. > :31:30.that I'm not missing, and then I was put on the phone

:31:31. > :31:33.to my mum and that's when I first heard my mum speak to me

:31:34. > :31:43.How can he look after a young child if he's done this?

:31:44. > :31:56.And I tell other children to follow what your mind says,

:31:57. > :32:04.Later we'll be exploring the growing calls for legal recognition

:32:05. > :32:10.I am really keen to hear your experiences this morning.

:32:11. > :32:15.And you can read more about our exclusive story on the BBC

:32:16. > :32:36.Thank you to Sarah who had email. I was alienated. I overheard my

:32:37. > :32:41.husband tell my two youngest that I was leaving and he didn't know why.

:32:42. > :32:44.I heard things coming from I2-macro youngest that could only have come

:32:45. > :32:48.from their father and I tried not to retaliate. It is brainwashing. It

:32:49. > :32:53.may be too late for me but others could be saved. We have changed the

:32:54. > :32:57.names to protect people's identity just in case. This text from a dud.

:32:58. > :33:05.I am suffering from this with my ex and my son at the moment. -- dad. I

:33:06. > :33:12.am going to court again this week but I am not hopeful. My son has

:33:13. > :33:19.been goaded into asking awkward questions about my parenting. He

:33:20. > :33:23.will be five in January. And this one. My children and I suffered at

:33:24. > :33:26.the hands of an angry and bitter man for 20 years. He tried his best to

:33:27. > :33:31.alienate me from my children and for some years he had some success. I

:33:32. > :33:36.promised myself that regardless of what he did, I would never run him

:33:37. > :33:40.down to them. You have got to take the long view. I children are grown

:33:41. > :33:44.up and can see him for themselves. They have suffered greatly and so

:33:45. > :33:48.have I. And this father has had no contact with a 13-year-old pop three

:33:49. > :33:55.years despite going to court several times. It seems mothers can do what

:33:56. > :34:04.they want without question, which assists parental alienation. We will

:34:05. > :34:13.talk about this later with the head of Cascais, the organisation that

:34:14. > :34:16.represents children in courts. -- CAFCASS.

:34:17. > :34:17.Still to come, should cannabis be legalised?

:34:18. > :34:21.It's a question that's asked regularly and now a group of MPs has

:34:22. > :34:23.described the UK's drugs policy as an embarrassment.

:34:24. > :34:26.We'll be speaking to people on both sides of the debate.

:34:27. > :34:28.And Theresa May will be giving a speech to the Confederation

:34:29. > :34:36.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:34:37. > :34:38.Theresa May will pledge to keep Britain's corporation tax the lowest

:34:39. > :34:42.In her first speech to business leaders at the CBI,

:34:43. > :34:44.the Prime Minister will also announce ?2 billion

:34:45. > :34:47.of new investment every year in science and technology.

:34:48. > :34:50.She's expected to say the aim is to put post-Brexit Britain

:34:51. > :34:52.at the cutting edge, by backing fields such

:34:53. > :35:00.There are calls for parents who deliberately turn a child

:35:01. > :35:02.against their other parent during divorce or separation

:35:03. > :35:04.proceedings to face a fine or even imprisonment.

:35:05. > :35:07.Judges say they often see what is known as parental

:35:08. > :35:18.alienation but have no power to punish those involved.

:35:19. > :35:22.Victoria will have more on that later.

:35:23. > :35:24.The Home Office is disregarding and mistreating medical evidence

:35:25. > :35:27.of torture in UK asylum claims, according to a new report by the

:35:28. > :35:35.Asylum seekers in the UK who claim they are torture victims can

:35:36. > :35:36.have medical assessments to verify their claims.

:35:37. > :35:38.But the charity has told this programme officials

:35:39. > :35:40.sometimes overlook these assessments and judges

:35:41. > :35:42.are correcting poor judgment at considerable cost to taxpayers.

:35:43. > :35:44.The Home Office said an exceptionally small sample

:35:45. > :35:46.was used in the charity's report and insists that caseworkers do

:35:47. > :35:51.Britain's defences are at risk because the number of warships

:35:52. > :35:54.available to the Royal Navy is woefully low,

:35:55. > :35:57.according to MPs on the House of Commons Defence Select Committee.

:35:58. > :35:59.They say the UK could lack the maritime strength to deal

:36:00. > :36:02.with potential threats and warn that the size of the fleet

:36:03. > :36:04.could shrink even further unless there is a clear timetable

:36:05. > :36:07.The government insists it is spending billions on

:36:08. > :36:16.Facebook says it will create an extra 500 jobs when it

:36:17. > :36:18.opens its new London headquarters next year.

:36:19. > :36:22.The additional posts will include engineers and sales staff.

:36:23. > :36:25.The company says that the UK remains one of the best places in the world

:36:26. > :36:30.President Obama says he won't publicly criticise

:36:31. > :36:38.the President-elect Donald Trump after he leaves office

:36:39. > :36:41.but would speak out if he believes American values are threatened.

:36:42. > :36:42.By convention, former presidents avoid commenting

:36:43. > :36:46.President Obama said he reserved the right to speak out

:36:47. > :36:54.on certain issues as a private citizen.

:36:55. > :36:56.And there was controversy at the American Music Awards

:36:57. > :36:58.in Los Angeles last night, after performers mocked

:36:59. > :37:01.Co-host Gigi Hadid was heavily criticised on social

:37:02. > :37:03.media for impersonating Mr Trump's wife Melania,

:37:04. > :37:05.while the band Green Day turned their song Bang Bang

:37:06. > :37:07.into an anti-Trump anthem at the ceremony broadcast

:37:08. > :37:13.Lead singer Billy Joe Armstrong repeatedly chanted "No Trump!

:37:14. > :37:22.That's a summary of the latest BBC News and there's more at 10am.

:37:23. > :37:28.So many messages for you about parental alienation. Kirsty says

:37:29. > :37:32.thank you for covering this subject. I will have chance to read more of

:37:33. > :37:35.those messages in the next hour of the programme. Now the sports

:37:36. > :37:40.headlines. Thank you. Andy Murray will end the year as world number

:37:41. > :37:44.one after beating Novak Djokovic at the ATP world Tour Finals yesterday

:37:45. > :37:48.to cement his position. His big brother Jamie is also world number

:37:49. > :37:51.one with his doubles partner Bruno Suarez. A huge win for India in the

:37:52. > :38:06.second test, bowling England out for 158 to win by 246 runs.

:38:07. > :38:09.Another English batting collapse means they go into the third test on

:38:10. > :38:11.Saturday one down in the five Test series after drawing the first.

:38:12. > :38:13.Gareth Southgate will meet with FA officials today at St George's Park

:38:14. > :38:15.for his interview to become the full-time England manager. He is

:38:16. > :38:25.undefeated after four games in charge. And Britain's Charley Hull

:38:26. > :38:31.has won her first Britons al GPA tour event. Thank you.

:38:32. > :38:34.Nine out of ten people who have had their tax credits stopped

:38:35. > :38:36.by the American company Concentrix have had them reinstated.

:38:37. > :38:38.This programme first broke the story several months ago

:38:39. > :38:41.that the private company used by the government to assess claims

:38:42. > :38:43.had wrongly cut off the payments for hundreds of people.

:38:44. > :38:45.Last week we spoke to Kat Smart Ekpenyong,

:38:46. > :38:47.whose tax credits were stopped in August.

:38:48. > :38:49.She was appealing against the decision and told us

:38:50. > :38:51.that without that money, she couldn't afford to get

:38:52. > :38:53.to hospital to attend appointments for her breast cancer.

:38:54. > :39:02.It's not fair that I should have to decide whether to

:39:03. > :39:04.feed my child or to go to a hospital appointment.

:39:05. > :39:08.They shouldn't have, you know, that kind of power

:39:09. > :39:12.I'm going through cancer and I want to work.

:39:13. > :39:19.So why should I be penalised for wanting to work?

:39:20. > :39:22.Well, since then, Kat has been told by HMRC that the original decision

:39:23. > :39:34.Well, I had a telephone call from the tax credits office to advise me

:39:35. > :39:41.that my self-employment had been reinstated. And I am due back

:39:42. > :39:45.payment of quite a substantial amount of money for everything that

:39:46. > :39:51.they have owed me, and also they have kind of looked into further it

:39:52. > :39:55.and an overpayment that I have been paying back since 2014 which I have

:39:56. > :39:59.questioned many times, they now realise that was there so they are

:40:00. > :40:07.paying me that back as well. How do you feel about that? Elated! When

:40:08. > :40:15.you got the call, what were you thinking? I cried, I shook, I was

:40:16. > :40:20.pinching myself. I came off the phone and I thought, did that just

:40:21. > :40:24.happened? Was that real? I had to ask my friend who was with me

:40:25. > :40:32.whether I just got a phone call. She said, yes, it's real. Finally after

:40:33. > :40:36.15 weeks off, my gosh, struggling. What does it mean not just

:40:37. > :40:43.financially but emotionally for you and your family? The weight that has

:40:44. > :40:52.been lifted, I am beyond words. I can't actually put it into words and

:40:53. > :40:57.express the feeling of joy, my elation. I will be able to do normal

:40:58. > :41:00.things. Do a normal food shop and buy shoes for my daughter, just

:41:01. > :41:04.normal everyday things. I am not looking at going mad and having a

:41:05. > :41:10.big spend but just normal everyday living. Including being able to

:41:11. > :41:14.afford to go to the hospital for regular post-cancer treatment

:41:15. > :41:19.checkups? Yes, I have my next appointment on the 2nd of December,

:41:20. > :41:23.which I will now definitely be able to make, so I can get started on the

:41:24. > :41:24.treatment that I need for the next five years. We wish you all the

:41:25. > :41:27.best. We can speak now to SNP MP

:41:28. > :41:34.Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikk who's been The fact that nine out of ten people

:41:35. > :41:36.have had their tax credits reinstated is down to a

:41:37. > :41:41.parliamentary question that you put down. I asked a series of written

:41:42. > :41:46.questions last week in relation to what the update was regarding man to

:41:47. > :41:50.retreat reconsideration and there have been tens of thousands of them

:41:51. > :41:54.and it is quite incredible. It speaks of the scandal of Concentrix

:41:55. > :41:57.that nine out of ten were upheld but there is still an issue about the

:41:58. > :42:01.amount of time it is taking for tax credits to be reinstated. The

:42:02. > :42:05.average is 35 days which simply is not good enough. I am calling on

:42:06. > :42:08.Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, to make sure there is compensation

:42:09. > :42:11.available for all the victims of this Concentrix scandal when he

:42:12. > :42:25.delivers the Autumn Statement on Wednesday.

:42:26. > :42:28.So not just that they get the payments backdated but on top of

:42:29. > :42:31.that compensation? Is that what you mean? Absolutely because there has

:42:32. > :42:33.been a breach of contract. The Concentrix contract was not to be

:42:34. > :42:36.renewed and the situation was so bad that the government had to cancel it

:42:37. > :42:38.with immediate effect. Compensation should be made payable to people.

:42:39. > :42:41.Some are receiving it but some are not. There were some is like ?20 in

:42:42. > :42:43.some cases and some constituents are not getting any money, so there is

:42:44. > :42:46.no consistency. These people are victims of a scandal that the

:42:47. > :42:50.government is responsible for and they should be paid money back. Some

:42:51. > :42:53.of the sums that they are getting in terms of compensation when they have

:42:54. > :42:57.been offered it does not even cover the cost of the phone calls or the

:42:58. > :43:02.postage for sending documents again and again to be reviewed by

:43:03. > :43:07.Concentrix. It is appalling. HMRC says it is perfectly routine and

:43:08. > :43:10.normal to ask tax credit claimants for evidence of their personal

:43:11. > :43:13.circumstances. There is nothing wrong with asking people for

:43:14. > :43:17.evidence, but when you find yourself in a situation when that is examined

:43:18. > :43:21.further that nine out of ten appeals are upheld, there is something going

:43:22. > :43:25.dreadfully wrong in the system, so that has got to be dealt with and

:43:26. > :43:28.development has got to accept it has gone wrong and they have got to

:43:29. > :43:31.accept responsibility and those that have fallen victim of this need to

:43:32. > :43:38.be compensated. Thank you for your time. We asked HMRC and Concentrix

:43:39. > :43:41.for an interview again, as we have been doing consistently since we

:43:42. > :43:51.broke the story and they continue to say no and we will continue to ask.

:43:52. > :43:55.Theresa May is due to speak to the CBI in the next 15 minutes and we

:43:56. > :43:59.will bring that to you live. Before that, there are calls for cannabis

:44:00. > :44:04.to be legalised in the UK because MPs want to end the embarrassment of

:44:05. > :44:08.the UK drugs policy. Which countries have legalised cannabis? It is

:44:09. > :44:12.mostly illegal in the United States but eight individual states have

:44:13. > :44:16.legalised it including Nevada and California, and several others allow

:44:17. > :44:19.it for medicinal purposes. The Netherlands decriminalised it

:44:20. > :44:23.several decades ago and Portugal legalised it in 2001 and Canada is

:44:24. > :44:27.expected to do the same next year and Germany is looking to legalise

:44:28. > :44:33.it for medicinal reasons as well. Some MPs say a change could bring in

:44:34. > :44:37.more than ?1 billion per year in tax revenues for the government.

:44:38. > :44:40.Cannabis is currently class B. The maximum sentence for possession is

:44:41. > :44:45.five years in jail or an unlimited fine. Norman Lamb is the former Lib

:44:46. > :44:51.Dem health minister who backs legalising the drug. And Dean in Los

:44:52. > :44:57.Angeles has sold medicinal marijuana for 14 years but since her home

:44:58. > :45:01.state of California legalised it earlier this month, she can now

:45:02. > :45:06.legally sell recreational cannabis to one of her top clients, Snoop

:45:07. > :45:10.Dogg. In the studio is Penny who doesn't want to give her full name.

:45:11. > :45:14.The sun became psychotic and at times suicidal from marijuana

:45:15. > :45:25.addiction and stump which he started to use at 14 and she strongly

:45:26. > :45:28.opposes legalisation. -- her son. Tell us what your vision of Britain

:45:29. > :45:35.with legalised cannabis would look like? We got an expert panel

:45:36. > :45:39.together including educational and a number of scientists to advise us

:45:40. > :45:45.what they thought was the best approach.

:45:46. > :45:53.The problem is that there are people at the moment put at risk by buying

:45:54. > :45:57.from criminals, people who have no interest at all in your welfare, you

:45:58. > :46:02.have no idea of the strength of what you're buying. So from a public

:46:03. > :46:06.health prospective it makes sense to regulate sales, to regulate the

:46:07. > :46:12.potency of the drug and at the moment, the war on drugs it seems to

:46:13. > :46:17.me has been a catastrophic failure. We are giving billions every year to

:46:18. > :46:20.organised crime. That makes no sense and we are criminalising large

:46:21. > :46:24.numbers of people including people who use cannabis for medical

:46:25. > :46:29.purposes. It is a ridiculous approach. And we should follow the

:46:30. > :46:35.evidence and follow an increasing number of countries and States in

:46:36. > :46:38.America who are taking a more rational approach that protects

:46:39. > :46:44.people better. Do you smoke it? No, I don't. Do you know people who do?

:46:45. > :46:48.Here I am advocating change and I am a politician who hasn't used

:46:49. > :46:54.cannabis or any other illegal drugs and... But do you know people who

:46:55. > :46:59.do? Of course I do. Of course, I do. As a dad I'm hostile to drugs. I

:47:00. > :47:03.worry about the impact on your judgements, the risk of addiction

:47:04. > :47:09.and so forth, but the most dangerous drug of all in terms of harm is

:47:10. > :47:12.alcohol. And you know there is a great hip possibling crossy here

:47:13. > :47:16.because you have ministers in this Government who will pontificate

:47:17. > :47:21.about the horrors of currently illegal drugs who use alcohol

:47:22. > :47:26.regularly as I do, to a moderate degree I hasten to add, but they are

:47:27. > :47:30.criminalising other people for using a drug of choice when they are

:47:31. > :47:33.themselves using a drug that is very dangerous.

:47:34. > :47:39.We will come back to this discussion because Theresa May is about give

:47:40. > :47:46.her speech to the Confederation of British Industry. Here is some of

:47:47. > :47:50.what she is saying. The entrepreneurs and the innovators who

:47:51. > :47:55.employ millions of people up and down this country, the basis for our

:47:56. > :48:02.prosperity. The Conservative Party and the Government I lead will

:48:03. > :48:08.always believe in these things. But I'm here today, not just to reaffirm

:48:09. > :48:16.these core beliefs, but to say that if this is what we value, we need to

:48:17. > :48:22.be prepared to adapt and change. For if we support free markets, value

:48:23. > :48:27.capitalism and back business, and we do, we must do everything we can to

:48:28. > :48:31.keep faith with them. And with not enough people feeling that they

:48:32. > :48:37.share in the wealth created by capitalism and with the recent

:48:38. > :48:40.behaviour of a small minority of businesses and business leaders

:48:41. > :48:45.undermining the reputation of the corporate world as a whole, the way

:48:46. > :48:52.to keep that faith is to embrace reform. To do things differently, to

:48:53. > :48:55.recognise that some people, particularly those on modest to low

:48:56. > :48:59.incomes, people worried about the future of the their children and

:49:00. > :49:04.their grandchildren, see these forces working well for a privileged

:49:05. > :49:10.few, but not always for them. So today I want to ask you to join me

:49:11. > :49:15.in shaping this new approach and seizing this opportunity. I want to

:49:16. > :49:20.ask you to work with me, to show that the forces of capitalism,

:49:21. > :49:24.globalisation and free trade offer the best hope for the problems

:49:25. > :49:31.facing so many people in our country. I want you to help me show

:49:32. > :49:38.those who feel let down. Left behind, or marginalised that we can

:49:39. > :49:42.respond, we can change. And that together, we can meet this great

:49:43. > :49:46.national moment with a great national effort to seize the

:49:47. > :49:53.opportunities ahead, and build a stronger, fairer Britain, a country

:49:54. > :49:59.that works for everyone. For this is a true national moment. The decision

:50:00. > :50:05.of the British people on 23rd June gives us a once in a generation

:50:06. > :50:10.chance to shape a new future for our nation, the chance to build a

:50:11. > :50:15.stronger, fairer country. That's the kind of change people voted for. Not

:50:16. > :50:19.just to leave the European Union, but to change the way our country

:50:20. > :50:24.works and the people for whom it works forever. And I'm determined

:50:25. > :50:30.that we will deliver the change they need. So we will do things

:50:31. > :50:34.differently. Not carrying on with business as usual, but opening our

:50:35. > :50:39.minds to new ways of thinking. Those of us in Government, and those in

:50:40. > :50:43.business too. For Government, it means not just stepping back and

:50:44. > :50:49.leaving you to get on with the job, but stepping up to a new active role

:50:50. > :50:52.that backs British business and ensures more people in all corners

:50:53. > :50:56.of the country share in the benefits of your success. For business, it

:50:57. > :51:00.means doing more to spread those benefits around the country. Playing

:51:01. > :51:03.by the same rules as everyone else when it comes to tax and behaviour

:51:04. > :51:09.and investing in Britain for the long-term. All things I know that

:51:10. > :51:15.the vast majority of businesses do already. Not just by creating jobs,

:51:16. > :51:19.by supporting smaller businesses, training and developing your people,

:51:20. > :51:24.but also by working to give something back to communities and

:51:25. > :51:29.supporting the next generation. I have no doubt at all about the vital

:51:30. > :51:36.role business plays, not just in the economic life of our nation, but in

:51:37. > :51:42.our society too. But as Prime Minister, I want to support you to

:51:43. > :51:46.do even more. That is why when the Chancellor delivers the Government's

:51:47. > :51:52.Autumn Statement on Wednesday he will layout an agenda that is

:51:53. > :51:56.ambitious for Britain. He will commit to providing a strong and

:51:57. > :52:00.stable foundation for our economy, continuing the task of bringing the

:52:01. > :52:04.deficit down and getting our debt falling so we can live within our

:52:05. > :52:07.means once again. He will build on the actions that are independent

:52:08. > :52:12.Bank of England has already taken to support our economy. And he will do

:52:13. > :52:17.more to boost Britain's long-term economic success. Setting out how we

:52:18. > :52:21.will take the big decisions we need to invest in our nation's

:52:22. > :52:25.infrastructure so that we can get the country and business moving. And

:52:26. > :52:31.he will show how we will do everything possible to make the UK

:52:32. > :52:37.outside the EU the most attractive place for business to grow and

:52:38. > :52:42.invest. I know that leaving the European Union creates uncertainty

:52:43. > :52:45.for business. I know that some are unsure about the road ahead or what

:52:46. > :52:49.your future operating environment will look like and there certainly

:52:50. > :52:54.will be challenges. A negotiation like the one on which we're about to

:52:55. > :52:59.embark cannot be done quickly or without give-and-take on both sides.

:53:00. > :53:04.But there are opportunities too. Opportunities to get out into the

:53:05. > :53:09.world and do new business with old allies and new partners. To use the

:53:10. > :53:13.freedoms that come from negotiating with partners directly, to be

:53:14. > :53:17.flexible, to set our own rules and forge new and dynamic trading

:53:18. > :53:24.agreements that work for the whole UK. Opportunities to become the true

:53:25. > :53:29.global champion of free trade. And opportunities to demonstrate how a

:53:30. > :53:32.free, flexible, ambitious country like Britain can trade freely with

:53:33. > :53:37.others according to what's in their own best interests and those of

:53:38. > :53:43.their people. That is our aim and our ambition. And I am ambitious for

:53:44. > :53:47.Britain. I believe that if we approach the difficult negotiations

:53:48. > :53:51.to come in the right way, with the right spirit, we can strike a deal

:53:52. > :53:56.that's right for Britain, and right for the rest of Europe too. And the

:53:57. > :54:00.right approach is not to rush ahead without doing the groundwork, but to

:54:01. > :54:05.take the time to get our negotiating position clear before we proceed, it

:54:06. > :54:09.is not to seek to replicate the deal that any other country has, but to

:54:10. > :54:14.craft a new arrangement that is right for us and right for Europe.

:54:15. > :54:20.Recognising that a strong EU is good for Britain. It is not to provide a

:54:21. > :54:24.running commentary on every twist and turn, but to acknowledge that

:54:25. > :54:29.businesses and others need some clarity, so where I can set out our

:54:30. > :54:34.plans without prejudicing the negotiation to come, I will. That's

:54:35. > :54:38.why I have been able to set out the timetable for triggering Article 50

:54:39. > :54:43.before the end of March next year. Why I want an early agreement on the

:54:44. > :54:47.status of UK nationals in Europe and EU nationals here so that you and

:54:48. > :54:51.they can plan with certainty. And why we have been engaging heavily

:54:52. > :54:55.with businesses over the past few months to understand your priorities

:54:56. > :55:01.and concerns and why we will continue to do so. But while the

:55:02. > :55:06.negotiation to come will be critical, we must not lose sight of

:55:07. > :55:11.the wider message people send on 23rd June. And so we must use this

:55:12. > :55:15.opportunity to build a more prosperous and more equal country

:55:16. > :55:20.where prosperity is shared and there is genuine opportunity for all.

:55:21. > :55:24.We've already received some massive votes of confidence in Britain's

:55:25. > :55:29.long-term future from some of the world's most innovative companies.

:55:30. > :55:34.Nissan's decision to build two next generation models at its plant in

:55:35. > :55:41.the north-east, securing 7,000 jobs. A record ?24 billion investment from

:55:42. > :55:47.Softbank in Britain's future, a ?500 million expansion and 3,000 jobs at

:55:48. > :55:54.Jaguar Land Rover, a ?200 million investment from Honda, ?275 million

:55:55. > :55:58.from GlaxoSmithKline, investment in a few headquarters from Apple, ?1

:55:59. > :56:01.billion and 3,000 new jobs from Google and this morning Facebook

:56:02. > :56:07.have announced a 50% increase in their workforce in the UK by the end

:56:08. > :56:11.of 2017. Yet there is more that Government can do, not just to

:56:12. > :56:14.encourage businesses to invest in Britain, but to ensure those

:56:15. > :56:19.investments benefit people in every corner of the country. That's why

:56:20. > :56:23.one of my first actions as Prime Minister was to establish a new

:56:24. > :56:29.department with specific responsibility for develop a modern

:56:30. > :56:32.industrial strategy. That strategy that will back Britain's strengths

:56:33. > :56:38.and tackle our underlying weaknesses. Our strengths are clear

:56:39. > :56:44.- we're an open, competitive trading economy, we compete with the best in

:56:45. > :56:48.ought owe, aerospace and advanced engineering, we are breaking new

:56:49. > :56:52.ground in life sciences and new fields like robotics, artificial

:56:53. > :56:56.intelligence and quantum computing. We're leaders in global professional

:56:57. > :57:01.services from architecture to accountancy, from law to consulting,

:57:02. > :57:06.we've world beating universities and the highest research productivity of

:57:07. > :57:11.the top research nations. We have a vibrant creative industry producing

:57:12. > :57:15.an extraordinary level of talent recognised and respected the world

:57:16. > :57:19.over and of course, we are lead nears global finance, not just

:57:20. > :57:24.banking, but investment management and insurance too. But as we

:57:25. > :57:30.celebrate these strengths, so we should also be frank about some of

:57:31. > :57:35.our weaknesses. We have more noble laureates than any country outside

:57:36. > :57:38.the United States, but all too often, great ideas developed here

:57:39. > :57:44.end up being commercialised elsewhere. We are home to one of the

:57:45. > :57:51.world's financial capitals, but too frequently fast growing firms can't

:57:52. > :57:54.get the patient long-term capital investment they require and have to

:57:55. > :57:58.sell out to overseas investors to access the finance they need. We

:57:59. > :58:02.have truly world-class sectors and firms, but overall business and

:58:03. > :58:07.Government investment remains lower than our competitors. We have

:58:08. > :58:12.outstanding firms and clusters in every part of this country. But

:58:13. > :58:15.taken as a whole, our economic success is still too unbalanced and

:58:16. > :58:21.focussed on London and the South East. We have gold standard

:58:22. > :58:24.universities, but we are not strong enough in stem subjects and our

:58:25. > :58:29.technical education isn't good enough. And while the UK's recovery

:58:30. > :58:36.since the financial crisis has been one of the strongest in the G7, our

:58:37. > :58:41.productivity is still too low. But if we want to increase our overall

:58:42. > :58:44.prosperity and we want more people to share in that prosperity, if we

:58:45. > :58:47.want bigger real wages for people and if we want more opportunities

:58:48. > :58:54.for young people to get on, we have to improve the productivity of our

:58:55. > :58:57.economy. So these are the long-term structural challenges the industrial

:58:58. > :59:02.strategy aims to address. It is not about propping up failing industries

:59:03. > :59:06.or picking winners, but creating the conditions where winners can emerge

:59:07. > :59:10.and grow. It is about backing those winners all the way to encourage

:59:11. > :59:13.them to invest in the long-term future of Britain and about

:59:14. > :59:17.delivering jobs and economic growth to every community and corner of the

:59:18. > :59:22.country. That is the ambition and we need your help to put it into

:59:23. > :59:25.practise. We cannot create a proper industrial strategy without

:59:26. > :59:30.listening to industry and we want to work with you and shape it together.

:59:31. > :59:34.So we will publish a Green Paper before the end of the year to seek

:59:35. > :59:38.your views before sh ug a White Paper early in the New Year. But

:59:39. > :59:42.today I want to sketch out some of the first steps and spell out some

:59:43. > :59:48.specific things we will do to turn our ambition into reality. We're

:59:49. > :59:53.ambitious for Britain to become the global go to place for scientists

:59:54. > :59:57.innovators and tech investors. We will continue to welcome the

:59:58. > :00:03.brightest and the best, but can only do so by bringing immigration down

:00:04. > :00:07.to sustainable levels overall so we maintain public fAlt in the system.

:00:08. > :00:10.Today Britain has firms and researchers leading in some of the

:00:11. > :00:15.most exciting fields of human discovery. We need to back them and

:00:16. > :00:20.turn research strengths into commercial success. That not only

:00:21. > :00:28.means investing more in research and development, but making sure we

:00:29. > :00:31.invest the money wisely. In the last Parliament, despite the deficit we

:00:32. > :00:35.inherited, we protected the basic science budget, even when that meant

:00:36. > :00:41.we had to take difficult decisions to control other spending. But our

:00:42. > :00:44.competitors aren't standing still. They're investing heavily in

:00:45. > :00:48.research and development. So in the Autumn Statement on Wednesday, we

:00:49. > :00:52.will commit to substantial real terms increases in Government

:00:53. > :00:56.investment in R D, investors an extra ?2 billion a year by the end

:00:57. > :01:02.of this Parliament to help put post Brexit Britain at the cutting edge

:01:03. > :01:06.of science and tech. A new industrial strategy challenge fund

:01:07. > :01:09.will direct some of that investment to scientific research and the

:01:10. > :01:14.development of a number of priority technologies in particular, helping

:01:15. > :01:17.to address Britain's historic weakness on commercialisation and

:01:18. > :01:22.turning our world leading research into long-term success. And we will

:01:23. > :01:27.also review the support we give innovative firms through the tax

:01:28. > :01:31.system. Since 2010 we have made the research and development credit more

:01:32. > :01:37.generous and easier to use and support has risen from ?1 billion to

:01:38. > :01:47.?1.5 billion. Now we want to go further and look at how we can make

:01:48. > :01:52.our support more effective. Mile aim is to have a tax system

:01:53. > :01:55.that's proinnovation. This is a comprehensive package designed to

:01:56. > :01:57.set us on the path to becoming one of the best places for research and

:01:58. > :02:08.development in the world. There is no point in having great

:02:09. > :02:11.ideas, great products and great start-ups if you can't get the

:02:12. > :02:17.investment to grow your business here. While the UK ranks third in

:02:18. > :02:22.the OECD for the number of start-ups we create, we are only 34 the number

:02:23. > :02:28.that becomes scale up businesses. I want to turn bright start-ups into

:02:29. > :02:32.great scale ups for the long-term. To do this we need to understand

:02:33. > :02:35.where the barriers are so I am pleased to announce we will launch a

:02:36. > :02:39.new patient capital review led by the Treasury which will examine the

:02:40. > :02:44.obstacles to getting long-term investment in innovative firms. The

:02:45. > :02:48.review will be supported by a panel of experts and I am pleased to

:02:49. > :02:55.announce that Damon Ruffini has agreed to that panel. We are backing

:02:56. > :02:59.the innovators and the long-term investors but government can also

:03:00. > :03:03.step up to help drive innovative procurement, particularly from small

:03:04. > :03:07.businesses, just as the United States does so effectively. Their

:03:08. > :03:10.strategic use of government procurement not only spurs

:03:11. > :03:17.innovation in the public sector, it gives new firms are afoot in the

:03:18. > :03:20.door. In fact many of our technologies, like the technology in

:03:21. > :03:24.your smartphone, touch-screen and voice recognition, were originally

:03:25. > :03:29.commissioned not by Apple or Microsoft but by the US government.

:03:30. > :03:32.I will announce today that we will review our small business research

:03:33. > :03:37.initiative and look at how we can increase its impact and give more

:03:38. > :03:40.innovators first break. And Cambridge entrepreneur David Connell

:03:41. > :03:48.will lead the review and report back next year. Our modern industrial

:03:49. > :03:52.strategy will be ambitious for business and ambitious for Britain.

:03:53. > :03:56.It is a new way of thinking for government, a new approach, about

:03:57. > :03:59.government is stepping up, not stepping back. Building on our

:04:00. > :04:02.strengths and helping Britain overcome the long-standing

:04:03. > :04:06.challenges in our economy that have held us back for too long. It is

:04:07. > :04:12.about making the most of the historic opportunity we now have to

:04:13. > :04:17.signal an important, determined change. But just as government needs

:04:18. > :04:20.to change its approach, so does business as well. We all know that

:04:21. > :04:25.in recent years the reputation of business as a whole has been

:04:26. > :04:31.bruised. Trust in business runs at just 35% among those in the lowest

:04:32. > :04:36.income brackets. The behaviour of a limited view has damaged the

:04:37. > :04:40.reputation of the many, and fair or not, it is clear that something has

:04:41. > :04:44.got to change. For when a small minority of businesses and business

:04:45. > :04:48.figures appear to gain the system at work to a different set of rules, we

:04:49. > :04:53.have to recognise that the social contract between business and

:04:54. > :04:57.society fails and the reputation of business as a whole is undermined.

:04:58. > :05:00.So just as government must open its mind to a new approach, so the

:05:01. > :05:04.business community must as well. That is why we will shortly publish

:05:05. > :05:09.our plans to reform corporate governance including executive pay

:05:10. > :05:12.and accountability to shareholders, and proposals to ensure the voice of

:05:13. > :05:18.employees is heard in the board room. The UK rightly has a strong

:05:19. > :05:22.reputation for corporate governance. The Cadbury, Greenbury and other

:05:23. > :05:26.reforms built on the strong foundations of the companies act and

:05:27. > :05:31.the corporate governance code, have made the UK prime location for

:05:32. > :05:35.listing and headquarter in, but we stand still. We must continue to

:05:36. > :05:39.make improvements where these result in better companies and improved

:05:40. > :05:43.confidence in business on the part of investors and the public. But can

:05:44. > :05:48.be done by voluntary improvements in practice. In a representation of

:05:49. > :05:51.women on company boards and in senior positions, for example, or in

:05:52. > :05:56.broadening diversity. But where we need to go further, we will, so

:05:57. > :05:59.there will be a green paper later this autumn that addresses executive

:06:00. > :06:04.pay and accountability to shareholders, and how we can make

:06:05. > :06:06.sure that employee voices are heard in the boardroom. This will be a

:06:07. > :06:13.genuine consultation. We want to work with the grain of business and

:06:14. > :06:18.withdraw what works, but it will also be a consultation that delivers

:06:19. > :06:22.what works. While it is important that the voices of workers and

:06:23. > :06:26.consumers should be represented, I can categorically tell you this is

:06:27. > :06:31.not about mandating works councils or the direct appointment of workers

:06:32. > :06:34.or trade union representatives on boards. Some companies may find that

:06:35. > :06:38.these models work best for them but there are other routes that use

:06:39. > :06:42.existing board structures, complimented or supplemented by 53

:06:43. > :06:48.councils or panels to ensure those with a stake in the panel are

:06:49. > :06:54.properly represented. -- advisory councils. It is about finding the

:06:55. > :06:56.model that works. Second this is not about creating a Germany style

:06:57. > :07:00.binary boards which separates the interests of the company from

:07:01. > :07:04.shareholders, customers and suppliers. Our unitary board system

:07:05. > :07:07.has served us well and will continue to do so, but it is about

:07:08. > :07:11.establishing the best corporate governance of any major economy,

:07:12. > :07:16.ensuring the voices of employees are properly represented in board room

:07:17. > :07:19.deliberations, and that businesses maintain and when necessary regain

:07:20. > :07:25.the trust of the public. There is nothing anti-business about this

:07:26. > :07:29.agenda. Better governance will help companies make better decisions for

:07:30. > :07:33.the long-term benefit of themselves and the economy overall. This is an

:07:34. > :07:37.important task. We will work with you to achieve it and I know you

:07:38. > :07:41.will rise to the challenge. This amounts to a big and ambitious

:07:42. > :07:46.agenda, but the times we are living through demands nothing less. Change

:07:47. > :07:52.is in the air and when people demand change, it is the job politicians to

:07:53. > :07:56.respond. But we do so alone. You employ the people and generate the

:07:57. > :08:00.prosperity on which our country depends. You must be part of this

:08:01. > :08:05.endeavour. You, who are so often on the front line of our engagement

:08:06. > :08:10.with the world, whose actions, so often project our values in the

:08:11. > :08:14.world, must also play your part. By joining us to shape this new

:08:15. > :08:19.approach, helping us put it into practice, and embracing the change

:08:20. > :08:24.we need. Investing in Britain for the long-term, generating wealth and

:08:25. > :08:26.opportunity in every corner of the country, and reforming corporate

:08:27. > :08:32.governance to call out the bad in order to promote the good. So let us

:08:33. > :08:36.join together and show that we can rise to meet this moment. Let us

:08:37. > :08:41.respond to the public's demand for change. Let us restore their faith

:08:42. > :08:45.and prove that capitalism can deliver them a better future. And

:08:46. > :08:52.let us build a stronger, fairer Britain together. Theresa May,

:08:53. > :08:56.joined on stage for a while by a butterfly! Norman Smith was listing

:08:57. > :09:03.and watching. What would you take from that? Well, as we thought,

:09:04. > :09:06.Theresa May is setting out her industrial strategy, how government

:09:07. > :09:09.can do things differently in terms of providing support, particularly

:09:10. > :09:14.for high tech business, and in return demanding that business does

:09:15. > :09:18.things differently as well, and cemented the social contract with

:09:19. > :09:22.employers and he well not to be fazed by the moth that was ducking

:09:23. > :09:27.in and out behind the screen. They must need some mothballs and some

:09:28. > :09:30.lavender here. She stay focused and she kept on message. An interesting

:09:31. > :09:34.thing at the end of the speech, which will be focused on, she seemed

:09:35. > :09:39.to have ditched the proposal floated at the party conference of having

:09:40. > :09:42.workers on company boards. This is part of her pitch in trying to help

:09:43. > :09:46.people who felt they were being ignored and left behind by business,

:09:47. > :09:54.saying let's have employees on company boards. Businesses were

:09:55. > :09:56.shocked and said they were not keen on that. Listening to Theresa May,

:09:57. > :10:02.that seems to have been booted into the long grass. Instead she talked

:10:03. > :10:05.about employee panels, some kind of mechanism for consulting staff,

:10:06. > :10:12.which is very different to actually having a member of staff sitting on

:10:13. > :10:17.the board. That seems to have been gone, dropped, a no-no. That seems

:10:18. > :10:21.to me to be a retreat from what Theresa May promised at the party

:10:22. > :10:26.conference speech. Thank you. Before we heard from Theresa May, we were

:10:27. > :10:31.talking about calls for cannabis to be legalised in the UK. We heard

:10:32. > :10:36.from Norman Lam, the former Lib Dem health minister, and Penny, who

:10:37. > :10:39.doesn't want to use her full name, whose son became psychotic and

:10:40. > :10:46.suicidal from marijuana addiction, which he started to use at 14. And

:10:47. > :10:57.we will speak to dealer in Los Angeles, who has solved medicinal

:10:58. > :11:00.marijuana for 14 years. -- Deana. Penny, could you tell normal and why

:11:01. > :11:11.you are against legalising cannabis in the UK? Yes, our son started

:11:12. > :11:14.using skunk at the age of 14. Nobody is delineating the difference

:11:15. > :11:19.between cannabis and skunk. Skunk is 17% stronger and it lacks the drug

:11:20. > :11:26.which mitigates the psychotic effects of the drug. Our son was a

:11:27. > :11:33.straight a student and had a stars at GCSE and by the time he took his

:11:34. > :11:40.A-levels they were down to grade C and Grady. He started using heavily,

:11:41. > :11:44.they addicted, had his first psychotic attack in 2010, got

:11:45. > :11:48.schizophrenia in 2011 and has spent the greater part of the past five

:11:49. > :11:54.years in a psychiatric ward, I locked psychiatric ward. He has had

:11:55. > :11:58.nine months outside that ward in rehab. And he has got the diagnosis

:11:59. > :12:05.of schizophrenia. This is a nightmare faced not just by our

:12:06. > :12:14.family but by many families. How would you like to respond? Well, I

:12:15. > :12:18.have enormous sympathy for that situation. I am also a parent and I

:12:19. > :12:23.go through the same anxieties. But the current law doesn't protect our

:12:24. > :12:26.children. What has happened to Penny's son, tragically, have

:12:27. > :12:31.happened under the current arrangements, where we allow

:12:32. > :12:35.criminals to prey on young people. They don't know what they are

:12:36. > :12:39.buying. They are buying super-strength skunk very easily.

:12:40. > :12:43.The whole approach the government has taken has no impact on reducing

:12:44. > :12:48.supply. It is available in every town, village and city across our

:12:49. > :12:52.country. Surely a much better approach is to regulate what people

:12:53. > :12:57.can actually sell to control the potency. We know that if you control

:12:58. > :13:04.the potency, you can remove most of the risk. That is the approach they

:13:05. > :13:07.take in many American states. Any, please respond? I don't know how

:13:08. > :13:13.much you know about addiction and how drug buying and selling works.

:13:14. > :13:16.People who become addicted need larger and larger amounts and

:13:17. > :13:23.greater strength of a drug to get the same effect. We have now had

:13:24. > :13:27.this stronger strain of skunk on our streets for 15 years or more. There

:13:28. > :13:32.are a lot of people out there who are addicted to a very high potency

:13:33. > :13:39.drug. And you are living in a very unreal world if you think for one

:13:40. > :13:47.moment that legalising it and having it available in cafes or cannabis

:13:48. > :13:53.social clubs is going to somehow magically make the illegal drug

:13:54. > :13:59.sellers disappear off the streets or persuade people who want the strong

:14:00. > :14:04.version of the drug to somehow settle for a weaker version. That

:14:05. > :14:08.just isn't going to happen. It is not just an unreal world, it is what

:14:09. > :14:11.is happening in the real world. It is happening in American states and

:14:12. > :14:16.they are taking criminals out of the market. It is exactly the same thing

:14:17. > :14:18.that happened when they went through the disastrous experiment in the

:14:19. > :14:27.United States of Prohibition of alcohol. It had horrendous

:14:28. > :14:31.consequences for many people. I want to end the risk that your son face

:14:32. > :14:36.and I want to get that high strength substance of the streets. We know

:14:37. > :14:41.that if we pitch the tax level right, we can take criminals out of

:14:42. > :14:45.the market, protect young people and enter the awful criminalisation of

:14:46. > :14:52.so many people in our country, which then blights their careers. -- and

:14:53. > :15:02.the criminalisation. All others is happening under a criminal market

:15:03. > :15:06.and the law not protecting your son. Deana, can we bring you in? We can

:15:07. > :15:15.hear you and superb cannabis plants behind you. How is it working for

:15:16. > :15:18.you? I am the oldest dealer in Southern California and I have seen

:15:19. > :15:23.people from all walks of life come in and use cannabis to help them for

:15:24. > :15:26.medicinal reasons will stop in California you have got to see a

:15:27. > :15:29.doctor first before you get a recommendation to use cannabis. Once

:15:30. > :15:33.you have a letter from the doctor, meaning you have had a physical and

:15:34. > :15:38.the doctor approves it, at that point I can give you your cannabis.

:15:39. > :15:51.Now it has been legalised you can sell it recreationally as well, can

:15:52. > :15:55.you quest? Only when they start the political process in 2017, if you

:15:56. > :16:00.are 21 or over. It is keeping it out of the hands of the use, out of the

:16:01. > :16:03.hands of the children, like the mother whose 14-year-old son is

:16:04. > :16:12.smoking cannabis. We don't think that is healthy. The terminology

:16:13. > :16:17.skunk that you are using could be a British term. It is just a strain

:16:18. > :16:21.and there are thousands of strains out here and they all affects you

:16:22. > :16:24.differently. There will always be a small percentage of people with

:16:25. > :16:31.underlying schizophrenia, and all it takes is something to make it come

:16:32. > :16:36.out. Cannabis, if you use to high strains, it can come out. However

:16:37. > :16:44.there have been studies in Germany stating they are using CBD, one of

:16:45. > :16:54.the compounds in cannabis, and they are treating schizophrenia with it.

:16:55. > :17:03.It is merely a plant like tomatoes, it will grow flowers. And not

:17:04. > :17:09.everyone smokes. We have here a drink that's like a beverage that

:17:10. > :17:15.people like to take. There is there, is something that woopy Goldberg

:17:16. > :17:22.just came out with. It is a soak which is medicated Epsom salt and it

:17:23. > :17:28.is helping women with PMS and menstrual cramps. I don't understand

:17:29. > :17:35.how you are able to say you can get the strong stuff off the streets by

:17:36. > :17:39.legalising cannabis? Criminals can't make the same money that they are at

:17:40. > :17:45.the moment. They are earning billions of pounds a year. A

:17:46. > :17:50.legalised regulated market with a minimum age that the product can be

:17:51. > :17:58.sold to people, you can see what is happening in American States.

:17:59. > :18:04.Because you take the big profits away from criminals, criminals leave

:18:05. > :18:07.the market. It is what happened with alcohol prohibition in the United

:18:08. > :18:12.States. You can make a difference and protect young people more

:18:13. > :18:19.effectively. Thank you very much. This tweet from Moonwalker, "Banning

:18:20. > :18:24.alcohol and tobacco with lead to a happier, healthier countries."

:18:25. > :18:29.Healthier country." Your views are welcome.

:18:30. > :18:31.Why would one parent turn their child against the other parent?

:18:32. > :18:33.It sometimes happens after the couple separates

:18:34. > :18:35.and the legal battle over custody of the child gets nasty.

:18:36. > :18:38.It's a serious problem, and can have a horrible

:18:39. > :18:41.psychological effect on the child involved.

:18:42. > :18:44.It's also hard to recognise but it is real and is called

:18:45. > :18:50.She lived with her siblings at her dad's.

:18:51. > :18:52.She says he lied to her about why her mother didn't turn

:18:53. > :18:56.Over time, she began to believe her mother simply didn't

:18:57. > :19:08.It is the impact on the child that can be the most damaging.

:19:09. > :19:13.14-year-old Emma was seven when her parents divorced. Over the next two

:19:14. > :19:17.years, she was severely alienated from her mother by her father. My

:19:18. > :19:21.brother went away from home to my dad's because my dad was saying he

:19:22. > :19:28.could give them everything he wanted and he wouldn't get in trouble for

:19:29. > :19:33.anything. And when he went away, me, my brother and my sister had never

:19:34. > :19:38.been separated so it was as if my brother's going, I want to go

:19:39. > :19:42.because we were siblings and siblings stick to go so I went and

:19:43. > :19:49.my sister followed. For a time, the kids had contact with their mum, but

:19:50. > :19:51.that was soon stopped. He'd ring up and say, "The kids are busy. We're

:19:52. > :20:03.going to do something. He'd ring up and say,

:20:04. > :20:06."Oh, the kids are busy, we're going to do something,

:20:07. > :20:08.they can't see their mum today." My mum would be already halfway

:20:09. > :20:12.there and she'd get the phone call to say that we're busy

:20:13. > :20:14.and we can't see her. Did you know that

:20:15. > :20:16.at the time? At the time all we knew

:20:17. > :20:20.was that my mum had let us down, that she'd been out drinking

:20:21. > :20:23.the night before and that she had a hangover, so she couldn't

:20:24. > :20:25.be bothered to come. When your dad would say

:20:26. > :20:29.things to you, like, "Your mum's got a hangover,

:20:30. > :20:31.she's not coming today," I thought that my mum

:20:32. > :20:34.was never like that, my mum would never drink loads,

:20:35. > :20:37.she's not that type of person. But if that's what my dad's saying,

:20:38. > :20:41.I believe him, that she's a liar, that everything that's happened

:20:42. > :20:44.is her fault, that she doesn't love us and she's being a bully

:20:45. > :20:47.towards him and us, and that's why One day, in 2013, Emma got

:20:48. > :21:02.an unexpected message from her mum. She's saying that she loves me,

:21:03. > :21:13.that she's been made out to be this Again we've clearly only heard

:21:14. > :21:16.one side of the story. In other countries, governments have

:21:17. > :21:18.brought in legislation The government here says

:21:19. > :21:21.the Children's Act is enough It says parental alienation

:21:22. > :21:25.as a "syndrome" is not recognized by But there are growing calls

:21:26. > :21:28.from experts and parents for the government to

:21:29. > :21:30.officially acknowledge it. Let's talk now to Anthony Douglas,

:21:31. > :21:33.the CEO of CAFCASS, the organisation that represents children

:21:34. > :21:34.in family courts. Joanna Abrahams, a family

:21:35. > :21:36.lawyer who specialises in parental alienation cases;

:21:37. > :21:38.and the Liberal Democrat MP, Greg Mulholland, who thinks

:21:39. > :21:42.further research is needed. Why isn't it recognised in the legal

:21:43. > :21:43.system? We do recognise parental alienation and alienating

:21:44. > :21:45.behaviours. They are common in particularly in high conflict cases

:21:46. > :21:47.and each day, Family Court professionals are assessing the

:21:48. > :21:49.impact of alienating behaviours on children. It is not recognised

:21:50. > :21:52.formally in the sense that if a parent is deemed to be guilty of it,

:21:53. > :21:57.they would be punish as in other countries? We have some of the same

:21:58. > :22:04.characteristics say as Brazil because in this country, we do as a

:22:05. > :22:08.final measure remove children from one parent, who has been doing the

:22:09. > :22:13.alienating to live with another, but that has to be done after very

:22:14. > :22:17.careful assessment because if you're living in an alienating environment

:22:18. > :22:22.it is like living in a cult and that belief system is so powerful, if you

:22:23. > :22:27.remove a child from it, even though the merits are with the other

:22:28. > :22:32.parent, it can be equally damaging for children. So to criminalise

:22:33. > :22:38.parental alienation is not as good as working intensively with a family

:22:39. > :22:42.early so try to help them go beyond pure unfiltered emotion to a space

:22:43. > :22:46.in which there is some reason and some understanding of the impact of

:22:47. > :22:50.the alienation on children, but you are right, we don't have a specific

:22:51. > :22:54.legal prov, but your programme is a good illustration that a number of

:22:55. > :22:58.us across the system could usefully get together perhaps to introduce

:22:59. > :23:02.stronger guidance because the knowledge about these cases is much

:23:03. > :23:10.stronger than it was five years ago it cannily the impact on children.

:23:11. > :23:16.I mean, it's, for most parents, you would think, why would you turn a

:23:17. > :23:19.child against the other partner from whom you have separated? Why do

:23:20. > :23:24.people do it, both mums and dads are capable of this? That's right, it is

:23:25. > :23:29.both mums and dads. Sometimes it is not always done consciously. There

:23:30. > :23:33.could be a lot going on and we don't know about it and there are

:23:34. > :23:36.subconscious messages going out to the child and the child will

:23:37. > :23:41.naturally pick up on them. Like what, for example? Mum is unable to

:23:42. > :23:44.give emotional permission to the child to have contact with dad and

:23:45. > :23:49.becomes highly anxious before the child goes and the child will pick

:23:50. > :23:54.up on that and then is unsettled if he is seeing dad to start with. It

:23:55. > :23:57.takes a lot of time and reassurance, that it is OK you can go and see

:23:58. > :24:03.your father and sometimes people need help with that. Do you think it

:24:04. > :24:11.is the problem is a lot more than officially recognised? I think it is

:24:12. > :24:17.starting to become more and more recognised. More and more experts

:24:18. > :24:22.are being brought in to diagnose it. What we often ask for when we go to

:24:23. > :24:26.court is for a psychologist to become involved. They can make the

:24:27. > :24:31.dig know suss and assist us with a plan for a plan for targeted therapy

:24:32. > :24:35.for the parents. Quite often for the parents because the children can

:24:36. > :24:39.become over medicalised and they see lots of experts and it can be too

:24:40. > :24:44.much for them and then the parents can address whether there are

:24:45. > :24:49.problems with mum or with dad or it is not necessarily a recrimination

:24:50. > :24:52.or a blame culture, it has to be child-centric, what's in the best

:24:53. > :24:56.interests of the child and how we can promote contact assuming it is

:24:57. > :24:59.in that child's best interests. Greg Mulholland, what do you think about

:25:00. > :25:04.the current legislation in the UK and whether it protects enough

:25:05. > :25:10.victims of alienation? Well, it is important to use that word,

:25:11. > :25:14."Victim." And the victims are the children as well as the parent who

:25:15. > :25:19.has suffered from the alienation. It is something, of course sadly that

:25:20. > :25:22.happens in many cases and MPs up and down the country get cases of

:25:23. > :25:26.separation that has gone very badly and this is one of the things in

:25:27. > :25:33.this there. You say why do people do it? People can lose a lot of sense

:25:34. > :25:37.of rationality and reasonableness in the face of an unpleasant and messy

:25:38. > :25:44.divorce and that's very sad. Where I do think there is a problem is that

:25:45. > :25:50.where there clearly is evidence of parental alienation I don't think

:25:51. > :25:55.that's taken seriously by Cafcass and by the family courts to the

:25:56. > :26:01.extent that people making false allegations of sexual abuse by a

:26:02. > :26:05.parent are not punished. There is no sanction whatsoever in cases like

:26:06. > :26:10.this. Well, let Anthony Douglas respond to that. We have a duty to

:26:11. > :26:15.investigate every allegation clearly because some have proven true.

:26:16. > :26:21.Equally we can't say just because a child has been brain washed by one

:26:22. > :26:25.parent against another that that child is not, doesn't have complex

:26:26. > :26:30.feelings and complex wishes and needs and so to get to the bottom of

:26:31. > :26:35.each case and to understand the complexity of it does take a little

:26:36. > :26:40.bit of time and that's our bread and butter. We do need to have a

:26:41. > :26:45.stronger culture of urgency because the longer a child is kept apart

:26:46. > :26:49.from one parent the harder it is to re-establish a relationship as I

:26:50. > :26:54.think your film showed to try to do that in any relationship six or

:26:55. > :27:01.seven years on, is impossible. The bond has gone. Sorry. You are

:27:02. > :27:11.entirely ducking the point, Anthony. You know full well that where there

:27:12. > :27:16.have been clearly false allegations of sexual abuse Cafcass does

:27:17. > :27:19.nothing. Well, it is not true. Once that is established that the

:27:20. > :27:26.allegations are false... And then you just... We recommend that as I

:27:27. > :27:31.say in the final analysis, it maybe right for the child to move to the

:27:32. > :27:38.other parent. That's not the same as taking action, Anthony as well you

:27:39. > :27:42.know. Can I step in here? Cafcass can make recommendations, but it is

:27:43. > :27:49.up to the judiciary to consider them and decide how they need to be

:27:50. > :27:54.implemented. But a false allegation made in any circumstance could be

:27:55. > :27:58.regarded as a criminal offence, but Cafcass do nothing about it. They

:27:59. > :28:01.may recommend a different custody arrangement or a different care

:28:02. > :28:06.arrangement, but they do nothing about false allegations and that's a

:28:07. > :28:12.problem. Greg, are' over simplifying... No, I'm not. The

:28:13. > :28:19.nature of these allegations, there are few clear hard facts in family

:28:20. > :28:22.cases. They are often ambiguous, they are often people's words, one

:28:23. > :28:27.against the other with the child caught in the middle and to produce

:28:28. > :28:35.a rounded analysis that is safe for that child does take a little bit of

:28:36. > :28:42.time and you can't over simplify it to punish one parent. Parent.

:28:43. > :28:48.Generally the punishment of a child rebounds on a parent who feels

:28:49. > :28:52.partly responsible for it. A lot of people getting in touch are dads

:28:53. > :28:56.saying it is mostly mums who do this who are guilty of parental alyen

:28:57. > :28:58.nation, but it is as we said earlier, possible for both mums and

:28:59. > :29:04.dads to do this. Gareth Southgate's got a job

:29:05. > :29:06.interview this morning The FA insist there's no rush

:29:07. > :29:11.to appoint a permanent successor to Sam Allardyce, but with England

:29:12. > :29:15.topping their world cup qualifying group after four games under

:29:16. > :29:17.Southgate, it's Let's talk now to,

:29:18. > :29:43.former England Captain, And Mark Palios. Why is he being

:29:44. > :29:46.interviewed? If you are appointing a football manager, it is an art, not

:29:47. > :29:50.a science and you take a risk whenever you do that. They have to

:29:51. > :29:54.be seen to go through the process. It maybe a process whereby they can

:29:55. > :29:58.iron out some of the things that they expect of the manager. So it is

:29:59. > :30:02.more of a briefing for Southgate than so much of an interview. But

:30:03. > :30:06.yeah, I mean, everybody knows Gareth. They know him around the FA.

:30:07. > :30:09.They know him through his involvement with the under 21s and

:30:10. > :30:13.he is a candidate that shouldn't be a surprise. They are not doing due

:30:14. > :30:16.diligence on him and I expect more of a conversation which is around

:30:17. > :30:21.what the FA expect out of the England team.

:30:22. > :30:28.Peter, should he get it? I think it is a gamble. I think the FA will be

:30:29. > :30:33.going on potential rather than what Gareth has achieved in management.

:30:34. > :30:37.He had a spell at Middlesbrough and was in charge of the adjustment we

:30:38. > :30:46.once and they did win a trophy, but that is a different ball game. -- in

:30:47. > :30:51.of the under-21s. He has got the right profile of the pitch for the

:30:52. > :30:55.FA. But when you look at the actual other side, experience in

:30:56. > :30:59.management, it is probably not good enough to be an international

:31:00. > :31:03.manager at the moment. He has done reasonably well. I think the game in

:31:04. > :31:09.Spain was probably his best and they played quite well. Any other games,

:31:10. > :31:17.it was very average. So it is an potential, really. I wonder, Mark,

:31:18. > :31:20.because he seems to be slightly studious, that people could be

:31:21. > :31:24.suspicious of him in football? That is for other people to answer. I

:31:25. > :31:29.understand what the question is pointed at. If you look at Arsene

:31:30. > :31:36.Wenger, he is quite surreal. People accept him. But to take Peter's

:31:37. > :31:39.point, they accept Arsene Wenger on his results at what he did in the

:31:40. > :31:47.early years of his career at Arsenal. I don't think so. At the

:31:48. > :31:51.end of the day a body of fans would like somebody ranting and raving

:31:52. > :31:55.from the technical area, but as Peter will tell you, you don't hear

:31:56. > :31:58.a great deal of what the manager says to them at that point in time

:31:59. > :32:03.because of the size of the crowd and the fact you are concentrating on

:32:04. > :32:06.the game. You pay your money, you take your choice. My own view is I

:32:07. > :32:11.am fairly relaxed. At the end of the day you have got to be pragmatic.

:32:12. > :32:16.Can you get the most out of the potential of the team? You can look

:32:17. > :32:19.at managers with different styles. Harry Redknapp, different style, but

:32:20. > :32:24.you would have said he gets the most out of a group of players but that

:32:25. > :32:32.is what you look for in a manager. Whoever gets this job will have to

:32:33. > :32:38.solve the Wayne Rooney issue, Peter. Yes, certainly talking about the

:32:39. > :32:45.playing side as well? I am! I not the discipline side. He has put

:32:46. > :32:50.Wayne in the squad. He is not the player that he was. People still

:32:51. > :32:53.think he is good enough to play at Premier League level. That side of

:32:54. > :32:56.it is debatable. He is obviously close to my record and I would be

:32:57. > :33:01.the first to congratulate him if he played 90 minutes in every game. But

:33:02. > :33:07.if he keeps coming on as a substitute, I don't see the point. I

:33:08. > :33:11.think Gareth mentioned he had him in the squad because of his experience

:33:12. > :33:14.and the way the players looked up to him, but obviously now Gareth has

:33:15. > :33:20.got the decision to make with what has happened off the pitch, with the

:33:21. > :33:24.late-night antics obviously. It is great for players to have a drink

:33:25. > :33:27.together and go out and we used to all the time. But when the manager

:33:28. > :33:32.sets a limit, that is when the problem starts. That is the thing

:33:33. > :33:39.with Gareth. He has got to show some leadership. When was told to go to

:33:40. > :33:43.bed, he is the captain, and he led a bad example. -- Wayne Rooney was

:33:44. > :33:47.told to go to bed. He has apologised and other players have as well.

:33:48. > :33:51.Gareth has got to show determination and leadership and he has got to be

:33:52. > :33:54.strong and you can't have players doing what they want and that is the

:33:55. > :34:00.side he has got to prove. Thank you very much. Still to come: As Andy

:34:01. > :34:05.Murray ends the year as world number one, how did he do it? We will speak

:34:06. > :34:08.to one of his coaches. And a new report claims the Home Office is

:34:09. > :34:12.disregarding medical evidence of torture in UK asylum claims. We will

:34:13. > :34:17.have more on that in the next few minutes. Time for the latest news

:34:18. > :34:21.headlines with Joanna in the newsroom. Theresa May has told

:34:22. > :34:25.business leaders at the CBI conference in central London that

:34:26. > :34:29.they must reform in order to keep people's faith in free market that

:34:30. > :34:30.capitalism, and to deliver the change demanded by Britain's Brexit

:34:31. > :34:46.vote. The former French President Nicolas

:34:47. > :34:49.Sarkozy has been unexpectedly defeated in the first round of

:34:50. > :34:53.voting in France. Britain's defences are at risk

:34:54. > :34:55.because the number of warships available to the Royal

:34:56. > :34:57.Navy is woefully low, that's according to MPs on the House

:34:58. > :35:00.of Commons Defence Select Committee. They say the UK could lack

:35:01. > :35:09.the maritime strength to deal There will be more from the BBC

:35:10. > :35:14.newsroom at 11 o'clock. Thank you. Now the sports headlines.

:35:15. > :35:17.Andy Murray will end the year as world number one after beating

:35:18. > :35:22.Novak Djokovic at the World Tour Finals.

:35:23. > :35:24.England's cricketers have lost the second test against India

:35:25. > :35:27.after being bowled out for just 158 on the final day.

:35:28. > :35:29.Captain Alastair Cook was dismissed with the final ball yesterday

:35:30. > :35:31.and the wickets continued to tumble this morning,

:35:32. > :35:34.Joe Root faced over 100 deliveries but he was out lbw.

:35:35. > :35:36.England lost the other seven wickets this morning cheaply,

:35:37. > :35:38.James Anderson was the last man to go.

:35:39. > :35:42.India win the match by 246 runs and take a 1-0 lead in the series.

:35:43. > :35:44.And Britain's Charley Hull has won her first LPGA Tour event

:35:45. > :35:47.finishing on a tournament record 19 under par at the season ending

:35:48. > :35:50.The Home Office is disregarding and mistreating medical evidence

:35:51. > :35:53.of torture in UK asylum claims, a report by a charity suggests.

:35:54. > :35:56.Asylum seekers in the UK who say they are torture victims can have

:35:57. > :35:58.medical assessments to verify their claims.

:35:59. > :36:00.But charity Freedom From Torture say judges were correcting poor

:36:01. > :36:01.judgements at considerable cost to taxpayers.

:36:02. > :36:04.Dr Juliet Cohen is from the charity Freedom From Torture

:36:05. > :36:07.and Conservative MP Dr Tania Mathias thinks the Home Office need

:36:08. > :36:19.What are you saying, Julia? Although the Home Office have their own clear

:36:20. > :36:24.policy guidance on how caseworkers should assess medical evidence in

:36:25. > :36:28.asylum claims, they are failing to follow it, so we are seeing cases

:36:29. > :36:33.refused and when they go to appeal the judges are having to overturn

:36:34. > :36:36.that decision. This is a huge cost base for the mental health of the

:36:37. > :36:41.person involved with the delay and the fear that they might be returned

:36:42. > :36:45.to the country of origin, and the cost to the taxpayer frankly if they

:36:46. > :36:49.hold unnecessary appeals which they wouldn't have to if they got the

:36:50. > :36:52.decision right first time. We spoke to somebody whose case was examined

:36:53. > :36:57.in your report who has been through this process. She had an expert

:36:58. > :37:25.medical report and she spoke to our reporter.

:37:26. > :37:27.Mamie was an opposition political activist in

:37:28. > :38:03.She was imprisoned by the country's security services and tortured.

:38:04. > :38:13.Mamie was an opposition political activist in

:38:14. > :38:33.And did you tell the UK Home Office what had happened?

:38:34. > :38:36.Mamie, whose name we've changed, applied for asylum in the UK

:38:37. > :38:39.without medical evidence and was rejected.

:38:40. > :38:43.She then applied again with a medical report,

:38:44. > :38:46.which showed 20 scars which doctors said were evidence of torture.

:38:47. > :38:49.But Mamie was turned down for asylum again.

:38:50. > :38:52.This time though, that decision was overturned by a judge

:38:53. > :38:57.The judge attached significant weight to the medical evidence

:38:58. > :39:00.and said a doctor had carefully considered other possible causes

:39:01. > :39:56.Let me we queue a statement we have got from the Home Office. It says

:39:57. > :40:04.the report today is based on an exceptionally small sample of the

:40:05. > :40:10.asylum seekers over the time period and it says that officials have to

:40:11. > :40:12.consider all the evidence provided and our guidance clearly states it

:40:13. > :40:16.is not their role to dispute clinical findings in medical

:40:17. > :40:20.reports. I think what is interesting there is that the Home Office is

:40:21. > :40:24.stating what their policy is, which is excellent. And yes, I will be

:40:25. > :40:28.pushing them on this in Parliament when we launch the report. You are

:40:29. > :40:32.saying it isn't happening in practice? In practice it isn't

:40:33. > :40:35.happening. What is exceptionally useful with what Freedom From

:40:36. > :40:41.Torture has done with these 50 cases, they are sample. A sample.

:40:42. > :40:45.Don't ignore the staggering, staggering cases where people have

:40:46. > :40:50.been traumatised by delays, where the government has had unnecessary

:40:51. > :40:54.costs because the appeals get overturned. The Home Office should

:40:55. > :40:58.not be disputing these clear-cut cases that the charity has put in

:40:59. > :41:06.place. They should not be disputing their own case, where training that

:41:07. > :41:09.the Home Office has, training should be rolled out. And all staff

:41:10. > :41:13.undertake rigorous training programme? Yes, that they don't do

:41:14. > :41:16.the training programme that is there, on the shelf, literally. I

:41:17. > :41:19.have looked at the module which looks very difficult and very

:41:20. > :41:25.thorough. They are not doing it. Those cases where where those people

:41:26. > :41:29.had obviously not had the training. White as a Home Office worker, if I

:41:30. > :41:38.can ask you to put yourself in their mind for a moment, why would you

:41:39. > :41:41.with no medical expertise ignore and assessment that suggests an

:41:42. > :41:46.individual has been tortured? What would be the motivation? I cannot

:41:47. > :41:51.comment on their motivation. I am so concerned about it. This is why we

:41:52. > :41:55.want to raise these cases. Yes, there are only 50, but we don't know

:41:56. > :41:58.what the bigger picture is. We don't know how many other cases of medical

:41:59. > :42:03.evidence have been refused because we have only followed up the ones

:42:04. > :42:07.from our own charity. So we are very concerned about the human cost of

:42:08. > :42:10.this that the financial cost. Yes, they have clear guidance. Don't be

:42:11. > :42:16.clinical judgments if you are not clinically qualified to do so. Clear

:42:17. > :42:22.guidance and very good training. It is just one day. The Home Office

:42:23. > :42:28.always have it. It is already happening, staff undertake it

:42:29. > :42:31.already. That is why we will be challenging the Home Secretary and

:42:32. > :42:36.we will make sure it does get rolled out. Thank you. Andy Murray has

:42:37. > :42:40.finished the year as the world men's number one, beating Novak Djokovic

:42:41. > :42:46.in the ATP World Tour Finals last night. This victory surely puts him

:42:47. > :42:58.up there as Britain's greatest sportsman.

:42:59. > :43:02.That was forehand by Andy Murray. Djokovic left the ball in the middle

:43:03. > :43:09.of the court. Djokovic staying down. It is yet another great tennis

:43:10. > :43:43.achievement for Andy Murray! That win puts Murray

:43:44. > :43:46.at World Number One at the end of the year -

:43:47. > :43:55.a year which has seen him win nine trophies, one Grand Slam,

:43:56. > :43:58.one Olympic gold and become a dad. He hasn't lost any

:43:59. > :44:00.of his last 24 matches. We can speak now to Andy Murray's

:44:01. > :44:02.coach, Jamie Delgado, and to Simon Mundie,

:44:03. > :44:04.Newsbeat's sports reporter and a massive tennis fan

:44:05. > :44:12.who was at the final last night. How was it? It was absolutely

:44:13. > :44:14.spectacular to be there. The atmosphere was unreal. People didn't

:44:15. > :44:18.believe what was happening. To finish the year as world number one

:44:19. > :44:21.is such an amazing achievement. We went into the final with lots of

:44:22. > :44:24.people thinking Djokovic would win because he had played so outstanding

:44:25. > :44:29.in the semifinals and Andy Murray looked like he was on his last legs

:44:30. > :44:33.against Milos Raonic. He came out just fantastic. A phenomenal

:44:34. > :44:38.achievement. Unquestioningly one of the greatest British athletes of all

:44:39. > :44:42.time and a privilege to be there. Jamie, tell us about Murray's mental

:44:43. > :44:52.and physical strength to achieve this. Yes, it is incredible. We know

:44:53. > :44:56.him well and we have seen him play so many matches and we have seen him

:44:57. > :45:01.come through these tough situations before, especially in the training

:45:02. > :45:06.blocks. He pushes himself to the max. Even though he was really tired

:45:07. > :45:10.going into the final, we knew that and we also knew that he had a lot

:45:11. > :45:16.extra in reserve to pull back on, and he played emphatically well.

:45:17. > :45:22.Yes, it wasn't just the win, it was the man of the win, wasn't it? Yes,

:45:23. > :45:27.and with it being something as big as he has achieved, finishing the

:45:28. > :45:31.year ranked number one, beating Novak Djokovic in the final as well

:45:32. > :45:37.in that high pressure situation, it was a huge mental block for him and

:45:38. > :45:40.it will help him a lot next year. He has lost in finals to Novak Djokovic

:45:41. > :45:51.in the last few years and it makes it just extra sweet to beat him in

:45:52. > :45:54.the final. What does it mean to him quite? Only this year he really

:45:55. > :45:58.started believing he could get to number one. It is something he has

:45:59. > :46:02.worked for all his life and dedicated himself and sacrificed so

:46:03. > :46:03.much. It is tough to put into words what he has achieved but for sure he

:46:04. > :46:14.is over the moon, yes. Jamie ended the year as well in the

:46:15. > :46:18.doubles? It is incredible for a family to have two world number ones

:46:19. > :46:21.in the singles and doubles is an incredible achievement. For both of

:46:22. > :46:27.them to do it in the same year is amazing. Jamie just as much as Andy

:46:28. > :46:32.has applied himself so well and a few talent in doubles as well. Both

:46:33. > :46:37.of them fully deserve. Jamie, you remember the fallow tennis years of

:46:38. > :46:43.the late 80s and early 90s and it kick-started with you winning the

:46:44. > :46:47.orange bowl and into Tim Henman, I couldn't have believed we could have

:46:48. > :46:51.got to this. Could you have envisaged a daik this. Wimbledon

:46:52. > :46:55.champion, twice Wimbledon champion, all that he has achieved. It is

:46:56. > :47:02.almost unbelievable, isn't it? It is. It is incredible. We had Tim and

:47:03. > :47:06.Greg who were unbelievable players who both got to number four in the

:47:07. > :47:12.world and we have privileged to have them in the top ten for so many

:47:13. > :47:17.years. I think it was tough to imagine that we could Woo have

:47:18. > :47:22.someone come along and surpass what they did. Andy had a couple of Grand

:47:23. > :47:27.Slam titles and now the best player in the world. If you rewind 20 or 30

:47:28. > :47:34.years, you would never of dreamed of this. You bring Ivan Lendl back in

:47:35. > :47:39.andanedy all geld so well together. That must make you feel so proud?

:47:40. > :47:43.Yes, for sure. It is a great job to work with Andy. He has got all the

:47:44. > :47:48.talent in the world, but as you can imagine, there is tricky days along

:47:49. > :47:51.the way that we have to manage and get him into good mental state to

:47:52. > :47:55.play matches and prepare him in the right way. So the who will team does

:47:56. > :47:59.a really good job and we are all very proud of the job we've done and

:48:00. > :48:03.for him more importantly. Thank you very much. Thank you, cheers, Jamie.

:48:04. > :48:08.Thank you very much, Simon. The family of a British mum jailed

:48:09. > :48:11.for two years in Iran on charges of being a spy say her health has

:48:12. > :48:15.deteriorated and they are worried 37-year-old Nazanin

:48:16. > :48:23.Zaghari-Ratcliffe who is half Iranian was arrested as she tried

:48:24. > :48:26.to leave Iran back in May. Her husband Richard Ratcliffe

:48:27. > :48:33.continues to campaign Hello Richard. How do you know about

:48:34. > :48:38.your wife's latest condition? Yes. So she was on hunger strike last

:48:39. > :48:41.week. Her family got told on Thursday that she was having a

:48:42. > :48:45.hunger strike and there was an emergency family visit on Friday to

:48:46. > :48:50.request that she break the hunger strike and when her mother saw her,

:48:51. > :48:56.she passed out just about the shock of how thin she had got. And then

:48:57. > :49:03.sort of the kerfuffle and grabry Ella screaming was enough for

:49:04. > :49:10.Nazanin to break her hunger strike. That's your young daughter. Our

:49:11. > :49:24.daughter was very traumatised to see her mum looking like she did. I

:49:25. > :49:29.spoke to Nazanin on Monday. The suicide specific reference, she

:49:30. > :49:33.called me on 23rd October and said that she was feeling suicidal and

:49:34. > :49:40.she had written me a note saying goodbye and to take good care of

:49:41. > :49:43.gabry Ella and she was sorry that everything had happened and you

:49:44. > :49:49.know, she had never loved anyone like me and left it. She cheered up

:49:50. > :49:55.a bit after that. So then it was a lot more frightening this last week

:49:56. > :50:00.to hear where she had got to. Where are you in trying it get your wife

:50:01. > :50:06.home? Well, goodness knows. We discovered that there is this arms

:50:07. > :50:12.debt that the UK owes Iran ?500 million which they have been

:50:13. > :50:17.negotiating over ever since and it maps completely against our case.

:50:18. > :50:21.Nazanin was taken in April. Nazanin was told she was being held as a

:50:22. > :50:25.bargaining chip in June. The negotiations broke down in May. She

:50:26. > :50:30.is being held on secret charges and there is this really strange legal

:50:31. > :50:34.process and we were told to make the British Government make the payment

:50:35. > :50:38.and she will be released. The Government never called for her

:50:39. > :50:44.release and never tried to visit her and never condemned the Iranian

:50:45. > :50:47.actions, but it seems to amount closely to this clandestine

:50:48. > :50:54.agreement. The British Government owe Iran some money? ?500 million.

:50:55. > :51:00.It is an old arms debt that we spent 40 years not paying. Iran took the

:51:01. > :51:10.UK to court and the UK lost the case. So... Foreign Office say they

:51:11. > :51:14.don't know anything about that, but you're saying that's the case,

:51:15. > :51:18.please pay the money and my wife might be released? That's right. It

:51:19. > :51:24.is clear that the Iranians are being ruthless and putting my wife through

:51:25. > :51:29.a terrible condition. The UK should pay up. This is an international

:51:30. > :51:34.court order. If they pay up, I'd be pretty sure my wife would be home.

:51:35. > :51:37.Were you managing to get that message through to those who can

:51:38. > :51:40.make the kind of decisions in the Foreign Office? Well, we have got a

:51:41. > :51:47.Prime Minister's question on Wednesday. So our MP will be asking

:51:48. > :51:50.Theresa May on the progress of Nazanin's case and what is happening

:51:51. > :51:54.on this debt and we will see the answer then.

:51:55. > :51:56.OK. Thank you very much. We will see what happens. Thank you very much,

:51:57. > :51:59.we will continue to report on the case, of course.

:52:00. > :52:02.We asked the Foreign Office to respond, and they sent us this

:52:03. > :52:09.statement, "We understand what a difficult time this is.

:52:10. > :52:11.The minister for the Middle East, Tobias Ellwood, has met

:52:12. > :52:14.with the families personally to reassure them that we are doing

:52:15. > :52:18.We have raised their cases with the Iranian Government

:52:19. > :52:20.at the highest levels and will continue to do

:52:21. > :52:23.Iran does not recognise dual nationality and therefore does not

:52:24. > :52:39.So many comments on parental alienation. Kath e-mailed, we have

:52:40. > :52:45.changed people's names to protect their identity. Kath says I am he

:52:46. > :52:51.going through this nightmare with my two children. The children's father

:52:52. > :52:59.has shown that he has narcissistic tendencies. I'm trying to get out of

:53:00. > :53:02.the situation. I'm at a loss to know what best to do. I don't have a

:53:03. > :53:07.support network. This is making it more difficult. I want our children

:53:08. > :53:10.to be cared for in the best and the happiest environment possible."

:53:11. > :53:14.Craig says, "I am the child from one of these divorces. I haven't spoken

:53:15. > :53:17.to my dad for four years. But it was my own choice due to how he treated

:53:18. > :53:24.my mother and her family and myself too. I do hate my father and it is

:53:25. > :53:28.his own fault. He is deluded to think anyone turned me against him.

:53:29. > :53:32.If the law changed, he would be able to harass my mum further which would

:53:33. > :53:35.leave her financially and emotionally depleted. I think this

:53:36. > :53:42.area should be approached with caution. Not assuming that the co

:53:43. > :53:47.parent did anything wrong." Rob says, "Both of my parents did

:53:48. > :53:51.this to my brother and I. It left me for a long time with a strained

:53:52. > :53:54.relationship with both of them. Now, I don't see either of them

:53:55. > :53:58.frequently. It made me realise that both of my parents are complex

:53:59. > :54:01.people just like anyone else. And the veil of them as perfect

:54:02. > :54:07.authority figures dropped probably quicker than it should have." Mark

:54:08. > :54:12.says, "Parental alienation should be treated as child abuse. It tooks me

:54:13. > :54:18.years to come to terms with what my parents did during a bitter and

:54:19. > :54:23.protracted custody battle. It made me feel I was not wanted and I was

:54:24. > :54:28.just in the way." You can read more on the BBC News

:54:29. > :54:35.website and watch and share the full programme on our programme page:

:54:36. > :54:38.Drake, Zayn Malk, Ariana Grande and Sting were the big winners

:54:39. > :54:41.at the American Music Awards last night but the talking point has been

:54:42. > :54:49.this impression of Donald Trump's wife Melania by host Gigi Hadid.

:54:50. > :54:59.I love my husband. LAUGHTER

:55:00. > :55:05.President Barack Obama! And our children.

:55:06. > :55:11.This is what Melania Trump sounds like. People are counting on him.

:55:12. > :55:16.All the millions of you who have touched us so much with your

:55:17. > :55:21.kindness and your confidence. The only limit to your achievements is

:55:22. > :55:25.the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

:55:26. > :55:32.Newsbeat's entertainment reporter Sinead Garvan can tell us more.

:55:33. > :55:41.So there was a backlash against Gigi for that. Some people are accusing

:55:42. > :55:46.her of being racist because she put on the accent and other people say

:55:47. > :55:49.you are not good at hosting, stick to modelling. Some people are saying

:55:50. > :55:53.that Melania Trump is going to be the First Lady of the United States,

:55:54. > :55:56.show her a bit of respect. I think, you know, the Saturday night Live

:55:57. > :56:00.programme in America, you know, all they have been doing for the past

:56:01. > :56:03.two years is like having a laugh at the expense of the candidates and I

:56:04. > :56:08.think it is probably more to do with the fact that she is a model and

:56:09. > :56:11.people get their back up when models try and do everything else. They

:56:12. > :56:17.have got to stay in the model box. It is the first time she hosted

:56:18. > :56:19.that. There was always going to be a bit of backlash when there was

:56:20. > :56:24.something controversial. Her boyfriend was there. He won

:56:25. > :56:31.something, didn't he? He won Best Newcomer. He made reference to that

:56:32. > :56:34.in his speech. He went through and he thanked a number of people who

:56:35. > :56:40.have been there to support him through the past year. He has been

:56:41. > :56:47.through some serious times of anxiety and all the rest of it. So

:56:48. > :56:52.he has not performed as a solo artist. He thanked a lot of people,

:56:53. > :56:57.particularly his mum and his dad. No mention of Gigi. I don't know what

:56:58. > :57:00.the conversations are going to be like after those awards.

:57:01. > :57:02.It wasn't just the presenter who took aim at President-elect

:57:03. > :57:05.Donald Trump, the Punk band Green Day had a pop at the next

:57:06. > :57:08.leader of the free-world singing, "no Trump, no KKK, no fascist USA"

:57:09. > :57:37.No Trump. No Trump. No KKK. Donald Trump said he is a big fan of Green

:57:38. > :57:40.Day. He has been to see their musical and said it was excellent.

:57:41. > :57:44.What he will be making of this. But Sting made a reference to it the he

:57:45. > :57:48.picked up the Merit Award. What's that? You have done great stuff in

:57:49. > :57:52.your life? It is one of those lifetime achievement awards. He said

:57:53. > :57:58.that, you know, one of America's greatest exports is music and music

:57:59. > :58:02.is of all colour in America. We know all the music that comes from there

:58:03. > :58:07.has no, yeah, all colours, all religions, all races and all

:58:08. > :58:15.everything and that's what makes American music brilliant. And a word

:58:16. > :58:23.about Drake? He won Best hip-hop act and best song and he won best album.

:58:24. > :58:27.He said that he has got lots of new music on the way too.

:58:28. > :58:28.Thank you for your company today. We are back tomorrow at 9am. Have a

:58:29. > :58:32.good day.