05/12/2016

:00:07. > :00:09.Hello it's Monday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Joanna Gosling,

:00:10. > :00:11.A landmark legal hearing begins today

:00:12. > :00:15.to determine whether it's the prime minister or Parliament which decides

:00:16. > :00:20.when the UK should begin the process to leave the European Union.

:00:21. > :00:23.All 11 supreme court judges will meet together for the first

:00:24. > :00:27.Their ruling could have far-reaching political

:00:28. > :00:31.It has emerged that an ex-Southampton youth coach

:00:32. > :00:34.accused of sexually abusing boys in the 1980s was able

:00:35. > :00:37.to keep working as a coach until very recently -

:00:38. > :00:39.after he wasn't police checked for his new job.

:00:40. > :00:41.Bob Higgins was cleared of sexual abuse charges in 1992,

:00:42. > :00:48.but had been the subject of a police warning about his behaviour.

:00:49. > :00:51.We speak to one of six former Southampton youth players who say

:00:52. > :01:00.And what would be the one thing you would grab if you were

:01:01. > :01:04.We've been talking to a handful of the millions of Syrians made

:01:05. > :01:06.refugees by six years of fighting about the precious items

:01:07. > :01:23.I took my costume and I put it in the bag, and I left. We all left.

:01:24. > :01:34.When I weather costume, I feel strong. -- when I wear the costume.

:01:35. > :01:39.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11 this morning.

:01:40. > :01:43.We will also have reaction to a major report on integration

:01:44. > :01:45.in Britain which says that for over a decade,

:01:46. > :01:51.local communities to become increasingly divided.

:01:52. > :01:55.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:01:56. > :01:57.use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE and if you text, you will be charged

:01:58. > :02:01.Italy's prime minister will officially resign this

:02:02. > :02:04.afternoon after losing a referendum on changes to the

:02:05. > :02:12.Matteo Renzi had hoped his plans would streamline parliament and cut

:02:13. > :02:15.bureaucracy, but the poll was widely seen as a chance to register

:02:16. > :02:30.The result was clear and what the Prime Minister felt he had to do

:02:31. > :02:33.next was also. TRANSLATION: I will call a cabinet meeting and I thank

:02:34. > :02:37.my colleagues for an extraordinary adventure. It has been a United,

:02:38. > :02:42.strong combat team. I will then go to the presidential palace, where I

:02:43. > :02:46.will tender my resignation to the president. On paper, the referendum

:02:47. > :02:50.was about a package of plans put forward by the Prime Minister to

:02:51. > :02:55.streamline parliament. But many saw this as a vote on Matteo Renzi

:02:56. > :02:59.himself, and Italy's establishment. During the campaign, he said if the

:03:00. > :03:03.verdict did not go his way, he would resign, perhaps in an attempt to

:03:04. > :03:12.galvanise yes voters. But that did not happen. TRANSLATION: I lost, and

:03:13. > :03:15.I say it loud and clear, even if I have a lump in my throat, because we

:03:16. > :03:19.are not robots. I wasn't able to win. I beg you to believe that I did

:03:20. > :03:30.everything I thought was possible at this stage. This man Beppe Grillo,

:03:31. > :03:33.was a central figure in the campaign behind the no vote. By well-known

:03:34. > :03:38.comedian and political activist, he founded the populace 5-star movement

:03:39. > :03:41.and is used to taking centre stage. Following the result, the party is

:03:42. > :03:48.now calling for a general election, hoping to seize power. TRANSLATION:

:03:49. > :03:51.This is the right time to reunite this country that was divided by the

:03:52. > :03:56.referendum, and to call new elections and have it decided once

:03:57. > :04:05.again. Out on the streets of Rome, no voters celebrate. TRANSLATION:

:04:06. > :04:11.The no vote won. Roma won. It couldn't have gone better than that

:04:12. > :04:15.tonight. TRANSLATION: I think with this vote, Italian people wanted to

:04:16. > :04:19.express not only a note of constitutional reform, but also a

:04:20. > :04:23.firm note of the policies of the government and the European Union.

:04:24. > :04:28.As with the UK's vote to leave the European Union and the United

:04:29. > :04:29.States, this might be seen as a victory for populism over the

:04:30. > :04:35.establishment. Now a summary of the rest

:04:36. > :04:38.of the day's news. A landmark legal hearing begins this

:04:39. > :04:44.morning to determine whether it's the Prime Minister or Parliament

:04:45. > :04:46.which decides when the UK should begin the process

:04:47. > :04:48.to leave the European Union. 11 Supreme Court judges

:04:49. > :04:50.will meet for the first time Their ruling could have

:04:51. > :04:57.far-reaching political This report from our

:04:58. > :05:01.Political Correspondent Iain Watson. Who decides when the UK should

:05:02. > :05:04.begin to leave the EU? That's the question the highest

:05:05. > :05:08.court in the land will be trigger Article 50, the formal

:05:09. > :05:17.start of negotiations. We will invoke Article 50 no later

:05:18. > :05:21.than the end of March next year. But some campaigners won their case

:05:22. > :05:26.at the High Court last month by arguing that

:05:27. > :05:28.because it was parliament which gave us new rights

:05:29. > :05:31.when we first joined the EU, then only parliament and not just

:05:32. > :05:33.government ministers It is not about me or my team,

:05:34. > :05:40.it's about our United Kingdom But the government then announced it

:05:41. > :05:45.would appeal to the Supreme Court which will now listen to a week

:05:46. > :05:53.of legal arguments. So what happens if

:05:54. > :05:54.the Government loses? The judges won't give

:05:55. > :05:56.us their decision until A bill would then be put before

:05:57. > :06:01.Parliament to leave the EU. Opposition MPs would probably

:06:02. > :06:03.try to make changes and might even But Brexit itself

:06:04. > :06:09.isn't in the balance. Most Conservative and Labour MPs

:06:10. > :06:11.will respect the referendum result even if many of those

:06:12. > :06:27.voted to remain. Our legal eagle Clive Coleman is at

:06:28. > :06:31.the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is being watched probably as it has

:06:32. > :06:36.never been watched before. Take us through what will happen today? As

:06:37. > :06:39.you say, I have been covering this court for a long time and I have

:06:40. > :06:43.never seen anything like this, the world's press and the public

:06:44. > :06:48.queueing up, demonstrators dressed as judges. The atmosphere is

:06:49. > :06:53.extraordinary. Today, the government that is bringing this appeal will

:06:54. > :06:57.set out its case. It says amply that in order to enforce the democratic

:06:58. > :07:01.will of the people through the referendum, it is entitled to use

:07:02. > :07:05.what are known as executive or prerogative powers. These are powers

:07:06. > :07:09.that were handed down from the crown from times when kings and queens

:07:10. > :07:12.could do pretty much as they liked, although it is accepted that they

:07:13. > :07:18.can be used by the government in foreign relations, in entering into

:07:19. > :07:21.and withdrawing from treaties. The government will argue that that is

:07:22. > :07:25.what is happening here, that we are simply withdrawing from a treaty.

:07:26. > :07:29.What happened at the High Court was that Gina Miller, the businesswoman,

:07:30. > :07:34.argued successfully that the process of triggering article 50 would wipe

:07:35. > :07:39.away statutory rights enjoyed by the citizens, by you and me, and that

:07:40. > :07:45.only Parliament had the authority to do that. Those are the two sides.

:07:46. > :07:49.Ministers say, we have the executive power to do it, bypassing

:07:50. > :07:55.Parliament. Gina Miller's side argues that no, Parliament creates

:07:56. > :08:02.laws and only Parliament can wipe away those rights. The attorney will

:08:03. > :08:05.open the gates for the government and then he will hand over to

:08:06. > :08:10.Richard James QC, who will be speaking for most of the day. It

:08:11. > :08:14.will be on the nature of the rights that have been passed into British

:08:15. > :08:19.law as a result of our entry into what was the European Economic

:08:20. > :08:23.Community, now the EU. A lot of the argument will focus on the nature of

:08:24. > :08:28.those rights. Are they statutory rights which only Parliament can get

:08:29. > :08:32.rid of, or are they what are known as treaty rights, a vehicle of a

:08:33. > :08:35.treaty, and therefore it is legitimate for the government to act

:08:36. > :08:42.through ministers alone in amending or getting rid of those rights by

:08:43. > :08:45.means of triggering article 50? It may sound like lawyers dancing on

:08:46. > :08:49.the head of a pin, but that is the meat of the argument, the heart of

:08:50. > :08:50.the dispute. And that is the case the government will be outlining

:08:51. > :08:55.today. Some communities in Britain

:08:56. > :08:57.are becoming increasingly divided as they become more ethnically

:08:58. > :08:59.diverse, according to a review The report by Dame Louise Casey

:09:00. > :09:04.warned some areas were struggling to cope with the pace

:09:05. > :09:07.and scale of immigration. She also suggested political leaders

:09:08. > :09:09.had failed to deal with issues of integration for fear

:09:10. > :09:11.of being labelled racist. Here's our political

:09:12. > :09:24.correspondent, Ross Hawkins. It's been 15 years since an official

:09:25. > :09:27.report said different communities in northern towns

:09:28. > :09:29.were leading parallel lives. A report today says worrying levels

:09:30. > :09:32.of segregation remain and the authorities sanction harmful

:09:33. > :09:34.attitudes in the name And while Dame Louise Casey

:09:35. > :09:41.criticises other faiths, she repeatedly focuses on Muslims,

:09:42. > :09:43.saying women and girls get regressive advice

:09:44. > :09:44.about their lifestyles Some women were stopped

:09:45. > :09:49.from getting their basic rights, she says, while there was growing

:09:50. > :09:51.sense of grievance amongst parts But that, Muslim groups say, doesn't

:09:52. > :10:00.give a full or a fair picture. We of course want to ensure that

:10:01. > :10:04.both men and women have equal access Of course there should be no

:10:05. > :10:10.discrimination based on gender. These are realities that Muslim

:10:11. > :10:12.communities as well as communities across the UK will be united

:10:13. > :10:16.in trying to fight together. When she was Home Secretary,

:10:17. > :10:19.Theresa May said the government would do more than any other

:10:20. > :10:22.to promote integration. Today's report says it has fallen

:10:23. > :10:25.short of that ambition. Ministers say they'll

:10:26. > :10:30.study its findings. Fleet Town Football Club

:10:31. > :10:33.says a former coach - accused of abusing youth players

:10:34. > :10:37.at Southampton FC in the 1980s - The BBC has spoken to six former

:10:38. > :10:45.footballers who have made Until recently, he worked

:10:46. > :10:48.with Fleet Town's adult first team Meanwhile, three former footballers

:10:49. > :10:58.who lifted the lid on alleged, widespread child sexual abuse

:10:59. > :11:00.in the game have announced they're forming an independent organisation

:11:01. > :11:03.to support other potential victims. Andy Woodward, Steve Walters

:11:04. > :11:04.and Chris Unsworth want the "Offside Trust" to represent

:11:05. > :11:07.players and their families. Since they spoke out,

:11:08. > :11:15.hundreds more alleged 18 police forces are now

:11:16. > :11:18.investigating related claims. A fire at a hotel in the Pakistani

:11:19. > :11:25.city of Karachi has killed The blaze started in

:11:26. > :11:28.the kitchen and swept Dozens of people are being treated

:11:29. > :11:35.for burns and other injuries. At least 33 people are now known

:11:36. > :11:38.to have died in a warehouse fire in California, and its feared

:11:39. > :11:44.the death toll could rise further. The fire broke out in the Oakland

:11:45. > :11:46.warehouse on Friday Authorities say only about 20

:11:47. > :11:50.percent of the building has been searched so far,

:11:51. > :11:52.and they say a significant number The US President elect,

:11:53. > :11:55.Donald Trump has attacked the policies of China in a series

:11:56. > :11:58.of strongly-worded tweets. He accused Beijing of currency

:11:59. > :11:59.manipulation and flexing Last week, Mr Trump was criticised

:12:00. > :12:03.for taking a phone call from the President of Taiwan,

:12:04. > :12:07.an island the US hasn't had diplomatic ties

:12:08. > :12:15.with for almost 40 years. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:12:16. > :12:31.News - more at 9.30. Still to come, we will speak to a

:12:32. > :12:32.former Southampton player who says he was abused by a former coach

:12:33. > :12:41.there. Now let's catch up with the sport.

:12:42. > :12:44.An astonishing comeback from Bournemouth in the Premier League

:12:45. > :12:49.yesterday? Absolutely, a matter for the neutrals. Certainly for the

:12:50. > :12:58.Bournemouth fans. One of the comebacks of the Premier League

:12:59. > :13:06.season so far. This goal from Emre Can set Bournemouth up -- set

:13:07. > :13:09.Liverpool up for what looked like a certain win, but Bournemouth pulled

:13:10. > :13:14.another goal back and then they scored this one to level the match,

:13:15. > :13:19.defender Stephen Cook in the right place at the right time. That

:13:20. > :13:23.certainly felt like a victory, but they were not done, and they managed

:13:24. > :13:36.to get that winning goal to make it 4-3. An incredible turnaround for

:13:37. > :13:40.Bournemouth. And disappointment for Liverpool, who suffered a dent to

:13:41. > :13:44.their title challenge. But Jurgen Klopp was smiling at the end of the

:13:45. > :13:48.match. Obviously disappointed that his side let that Winslet, but he

:13:49. > :13:52.appreciated the incredible turnaround for Bournemouth and felt

:13:53. > :13:56.that they deserved it. But a frustrating afternoon for Manchester

:13:57. > :13:59.United? They have had many frustrating this season. Jose

:14:00. > :14:04.Mourinho is unhappy again that his side continue to let points slip

:14:05. > :14:08.from winning positions. They were leading 1-0 thanks to a lovely goal

:14:09. > :14:18.from striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Look at this for a lovely volley. It

:14:19. > :14:22.just drops in over the line. Jose Mourinho thought the win was on at

:14:23. > :14:26.that point until this happened. Marouane Fellaini, who had been

:14:27. > :14:30.brought in as a substitute, putting his first contribution to give that

:14:31. > :14:34.penalty away. The result was Leighton Baines scoring to see it

:14:35. > :14:39.finished 1-1. Hugely disappointing for Marouane Fellaini, brought on to

:14:40. > :14:43.defend that lead. Jose Mourinho feels that his side's performances

:14:44. > :14:47.are not getting the victories they deserve. As you can imagine, he was

:14:48. > :14:50.hugely frustrated at the end of the match. He would not talk about the

:14:51. > :14:56.penalty decision and he is annoyed that his team keep letting those

:14:57. > :15:01.leads slip. Family, snooker. A high-quality UK championship final

:15:02. > :15:04.last night. Yeah, on social media, everyone was saying it was one of

:15:05. > :15:09.the greatest finals they had ever witnessed, Mark Selby winning by ten

:15:10. > :15:13.frames to seven. That doesn't tell the full story. He was up against

:15:14. > :15:18.Ronnie O'Sullivan, who has won many times before. He actually came from

:15:19. > :15:22.five frames down. But Mark Selby did what he had to do to close out the

:15:23. > :15:31.match 10-7. He becomes only the sixth player to win both the world

:15:32. > :15:35.and UK titles in the same year. It demonstrates what high-quality they

:15:36. > :15:37.thought it was. Six time world champion Steve Davis said last

:15:38. > :15:41.night, while it is difficult to judge in rows, Selby is one of the

:15:42. > :15:45.greats already. If he doesn't know how great he is, he should just

:15:46. > :15:55.watch the tape of that match. Thank you, John.

:15:56. > :15:58.Judges in the most powerful court in the UK will today start hearing

:15:59. > :16:02.the Government's argument that it has the right to start the process

:16:03. > :16:03.of leaving the European Union without a debate in Parliament.

:16:04. > :16:06.Last month the High Court ruled that Ministers needed to seek

:16:07. > :16:07.the approval of parliament before triggering Article 50,

:16:08. > :16:11.which is the formal beginning of negotiations to end Britain's 40

:16:12. > :16:14.But the Government is appealing that decision.

:16:15. > :16:16.The 11 Judges of the Supreme Court will hear four days of evidence

:16:17. > :16:18.in what has been described as the most significant

:16:19. > :16:39.Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty lays down the rules for any country

:16:40. > :16:43.wanting to leave the EU. Once it is triggered it starts a two year clock

:16:44. > :16:47.running after which the UK will exit.

:16:48. > :16:56.But the arguments become about how under the law this process should

:16:57. > :17:00.work? This all seems like a long time ago. The new Prime Minister's

:17:01. > :17:05.message was clear, that... Brexit means Brexit. We will invoke Article

:17:06. > :17:16.50 no later than the end of March next year.

:17:17. > :17:20.Then Gina Miller came along. She is a businesswoman who with others

:17:21. > :17:25.decided to launch the legal case against the Government. Her argument

:17:26. > :17:29.is that even though the country voted for Brexit, Theresa May and

:17:30. > :17:34.her Cabinet, does not have the legal power to trigger Article 50. But

:17:35. > :17:40.only legislationks an Act of Parliament can give her that

:17:41. > :17:45.authority. Last month Gina Miller won her case at the High Court. It

:17:46. > :17:52.is about our United Kingdom and all our futures. It threw the whole

:17:53. > :17:57.Brexit process into turmoil. It sparked talk of a snap general

:17:58. > :18:02.election. And the three High Court judges were plastered all over the

:18:03. > :18:13.papers. So the Government's appealing at the Supreme Court. It

:18:14. > :18:18.is the highest court in the land. The Government will appeal to all 11

:18:19. > :18:22.of the court's justices. It is the first time they ever all proceeded

:18:23. > :18:28.over a case. They're independent and ruling on a point of law. But there

:18:29. > :18:33.have been calls for the president of the Supreme Court to step aside

:18:34. > :18:41.after reports his wife had tweeted that Brexit votes were just protest

:18:42. > :18:45.votes. And deputy president Lady Hale has

:18:46. > :18:55.already said that Brexit was not legally binding.

:18:56. > :18:58.Win or lose, Mrs May could end up in a fight with the Scottish

:18:59. > :19:02.Government. Either she will be triggering Article 50 herself or

:19:03. > :19:08.she'll push through an Act of Parliament. Scotland will never

:19:09. > :19:12.agree to that because it goes against their Remain vote. SNPs will

:19:13. > :19:15.not vote for anything that undermines the will of the Scottish

:19:16. > :19:23.people. So a second independence referendum could be on the cards.

:19:24. > :19:26.General election, Brexit in total chaos, the consequences of whatever

:19:27. > :19:34.happens in here this week could change the UK forever.

:19:35. > :19:38.Let's speak to Anne-Marie Trevelyan, a Conservative MP and board member

:19:39. > :19:46.Chuka Umunna, a Labour MP, who voted to Remain in the EU.

:19:47. > :19:49.Stephen Gethins, the SNP spokesperson on Europe, Tom Brake,

:19:50. > :19:54.the Liberal Democrat Chief Whip, Peter Whittle, the Deputy Leader

:19:55. > :20:12.of Ukip and from our Cardiff studio Leanne Wood, the leader of Plaid

:20:13. > :20:21.Thank you very much for joining us. I'll come to you first of all

:20:22. > :20:22.Stephen, the SNP argued for Scotland's voice to be heard in the

:20:23. > :20:23.hearings at the Supreme Court. Why is this a father for the courts? The

:20:24. > :20:25.people have had their say? Well, we live in a Parliamentary democracy

:20:26. > :20:30.and since Vote Leave didn't give us any details about what their plans

:20:31. > :20:31.are, it is right we scrutinise their plans. Democracy doesn't begin and

:20:32. > :20:31.end in Westminster. The Westminster Government has legislated for areas

:20:32. > :20:32.of responsibility to the Scottish Parliament. Now, any plans to leave

:20:33. > :20:35.the European Union will have a significant impact on the areas of

:20:36. > :20:38.responsibility of the Scottish Parliament, the same with the Welsh

:20:39. > :20:43.Assembly and in Northern Ireland as well. So it is only right and proper

:20:44. > :20:47.that the Scottish Parliament has a say just as it has had a say on

:20:48. > :20:52.issues when they have been raised in the past. Leanne Wood, the Welsh

:20:53. > :20:56.Government will have its voice heard at this hearing. The Welsh

:20:57. > :20:59.Government's top legal advisor saying similar to the argument that

:21:00. > :21:05.we're hearing from Stephen, when Wales voted in the EU referendum,

:21:06. > :21:12.the margin in favour of leaving was 5%. Why go against that? Well, we're

:21:13. > :21:18.concerned about the how we leave the European Union. We accept that

:21:19. > :21:24.people in Wales voted to leave. So the whether is decided, it is the

:21:25. > :21:27.how is the question and the incompetence and the readilessness

:21:28. > :21:31.that we see from the Tories in Westminster, the lack of a plan,

:21:32. > :21:36.there are grave dangers for Wales. So we're not prepared to give the

:21:37. > :21:43.Tories a blank cheque and just back this no matter what. It is not a

:21:44. > :21:47.case of the rest of us jumping off a clip together. We will vote in the

:21:48. > :21:52.best interests of Wales, just in the same way as Stephen intends to vote

:21:53. > :21:57.in Scotland's best interests. Ann-Marie, the Government is not

:21:58. > :22:07.making clear its position. People are agitating to whether to work out

:22:08. > :22:08.what Brexit means? Well, I think the Government has been clear. The view

:22:09. > :22:13.was taken after the referendum which had a clear mandate for leave that

:22:14. > :22:17.they would set about triggering Article 50... But no one know what

:22:18. > :22:21.is it means? Leaving the EU. The Customs Union and the ECJ authority,

:22:22. > :22:28.taking back control of our migration and all those issues that we have

:22:29. > :22:31.chewed over. That's questions weren't on the ballot paper. Whether

:22:32. > :22:42.we remain or leave the European Union. Absolutely. What follow from

:22:43. > :22:49.that, we have no, you know, the public has not been told about. The

:22:50. > :22:52.Prime Minister is behaving as if we live in some elected dictatorship

:22:53. > :22:56.the she is saying, "Look, the country voted to leave the European

:22:57. > :23:01.Union and therefore, I get to dictate the way in which that

:23:02. > :23:06.happens." Why doesn't the Government let Parliament discuss this? What's

:23:07. > :23:12.the problem? I'm relaxed about this. . . Point we are living in a

:23:13. > :23:15.Parliamentary democracy with an independent judiciary and we are

:23:16. > :23:20.lucky that we live in that environment is that, a member of,

:23:21. > :23:23.you know, our country has challenged what the Government was propose to

:23:24. > :23:26.go do to meet what that referendum result said and say, you know, I

:23:27. > :23:31.think it should go through Parliament. Personally, I have no

:23:32. > :23:37.problem, if that's where we end up. Why is the Government fighting this?

:23:38. > :23:39.No, because it went to the High Court and a decision was taken. The

:23:40. > :23:43.Government is regularly in the law courts on various issues, that's

:23:44. > :23:46.what governments do to test it. But we have said the laws and if our

:23:47. > :23:50.independent judges reach the conclusion in the Supreme Court that

:23:51. > :23:55.we should put through a Bill to trigger Article 50, I'm confident of

:23:56. > :23:58.that and I'm confident we will have that go through because there are

:23:59. > :24:02.too many MPs that would not challenge the will of the people.

:24:03. > :24:05.Does the Government have anything to fear by this going through

:24:06. > :24:09.Parliament? I think not. I think the Government has everything to gain

:24:10. > :24:12.because I think what the Government needs to recognise is this about

:24:13. > :24:17.Parliamentary sovereignty. Parliamentary sovereignty was a

:24:18. > :24:20.feature of the Brexit campaign. Now, what Parliament, what the Government

:24:21. > :24:24.should do is enable Parliament to have its say on this critical

:24:25. > :24:29.matter, in relation to Article 50, what I hope the Government will also

:24:30. > :24:32.concede is that there should be a vote to allow people at the end of

:24:33. > :24:37.the process, but before we leave the European Union to allow people to

:24:38. > :24:41.vote on what the Government, what deal they have secured because, of

:24:42. > :24:45.course, as Chuka Umunna was saying, people voted to leave the EU, but

:24:46. > :24:48.what they did not vote for, because it was not explained and not on the

:24:49. > :24:51.table was what position the Government was going to adopt on a

:24:52. > :25:01.host of issues from the single market, through to the Customs

:25:02. > :25:05.Union, through to the freedom of movement. I want to let Peter come

:25:06. > :25:08.in. What you're saying is people are too thick to understand what they're

:25:09. > :25:11.being asked. People knew exactly what they were voting for. They knew

:25:12. > :25:17.exactly. What that meant was coming out of the EU, control of our our

:25:18. > :25:19.borders and own sovereigntry. You talk about Parliamentary

:25:20. > :25:33.sovereignty, Tom. You didn't care about that for years and years. Hang

:25:34. > :25:37.on. During the Scottish independence referendum there was a 670 page

:25:38. > :25:41.white paper. Many people didn't agree with that and I accept that

:25:42. > :25:44.and we lost. Plus there were plans for consulting with all the

:25:45. > :25:47.Parliamentary leaders in the event of a Yes vote and to be fair to

:25:48. > :25:51.David Cameron, he sat down with Alex Salmond and he hammered out an

:25:52. > :26:01.Edinburgh agreement so the question of legality was dealt with. Vote

:26:02. > :26:06.Leave carried out a gross error of irresponsibility. Vote Leave was

:26:07. > :26:10.chaotic and the way it has been dealt with by the Government is

:26:11. > :26:14.utterly chaotic. They are leading us down a road that will have an impact

:26:15. > :26:20.on jobs and the economy and every single person. The referendum was a

:26:21. > :26:24.binding, binary question, Vote Leave was the campaign group which was

:26:25. > :26:30.given the authority to run the campaign to leave which was similar

:26:31. > :26:35.to leave the EU and so leaving the single market, even the Prime

:26:36. > :26:39.Minister who was fighting for remain said that's what it meant. Very

:26:40. > :26:43.clear. If there was one key plenl the Leave campaign made if we leave

:26:44. > :26:47.the European Union ?350 million extra per week would go to the NHS.

:26:48. > :26:50.That was something that five current Cabinet Ministers went around the

:26:51. > :26:56.country telling your viewers would happen and we have seen precious

:26:57. > :27:00.little indication... Is the only way now to be absolutely clear what the

:27:01. > :27:05.people want is to have a general election. We have had the

:27:06. > :27:14.by-election in Richmond, Tom Brake, your party has an MP saying she has

:27:15. > :27:17.a mandate to vote against Article 50 because that's been clearly been

:27:18. > :27:20.said by the constituents there? What the by-election does is tell our

:27:21. > :27:25.Prime Minister that she is supposed to be representing the whole of the

:27:26. > :27:28.country. She seems to have conveniently forgotten that 48% of

:27:29. > :27:35.people voted to remain and she also appears to have forgotten that in

:27:36. > :27:38.that 52% who voted to leave, there were large numbers of people who

:27:39. > :27:41.actually wanted for instance to stay in the single market. She seems to

:27:42. > :27:47.have completely disregarded that and is running on a hard Brexit agenda,

:27:48. > :27:53.a Conservative hard Brexit agenda which will do our economy a huge

:27:54. > :27:59.amount of... Tom, you could be clear by what you mean by a single market?

:28:00. > :28:02.How mean the internal market of trade? Is that what you are talking

:28:03. > :28:06.about? For me, there is control of our borders? There is the ECJ, a

:28:07. > :28:08.trading union or atry market agreement. What is it you talk

:28:09. > :28:15.about? When you say the single market? What do you mean? I don't

:28:16. > :28:23.know what you mean. What I'm saying to you, your party is in power. Your

:28:24. > :28:24.party has got to explain to people what it is they're going to

:28:25. > :28:30.negotiate. Well, that's what we'll do. We're going into the wider

:28:31. > :28:39.arguments. I want to bring in Leanne Wood. Leanne Wood... If we're

:28:40. > :28:44.looking at the claims that were made during the referendum then a lot was

:28:45. > :28:49.said about the Norway model. Now the Norway model retains our membership

:28:50. > :28:54.of the single market. It keeps an element of free movement of people,

:28:55. > :28:58.although there is an ability to restrict that by making availial a

:28:59. > :29:01.place for people who have a job. Now, that's something that we could

:29:02. > :29:07.look at as something that would be a good model for Wales, it wouldn't

:29:08. > :29:13.put at risk the 200,000 jobs that rely on our access and membership to

:29:14. > :29:16.the single market... That's just membership of the EU. No, it is not.

:29:17. > :29:21.Norway is not a member of the EU. They are outside the EU, but they

:29:22. > :29:27.are inside the single market. Sorry to interrupt you. This is something

:29:28. > :29:33.we should consider for the future. Hang on. I just want to ask you, how

:29:34. > :29:37.you think, how you think this is playing in Europe? We're hearing

:29:38. > :29:40.from Europe that we are looking at what's going on here and they are

:29:41. > :29:49.saying, "There is no clear strategy." There is a new lead are

:29:50. > :30:02.of Ukip. But in the end if we want to adopt the best deal for the UK,

:30:03. > :30:05.which I think all of us want here, we have different views on what that

:30:06. > :30:09.might look like. You have to illustrate there is a self interest

:30:10. > :30:12.for the other 27 member states to give us the deal we want. So we have

:30:13. > :30:13.got to put enough on the table that shows actually... Take the country,

:30:14. > :30:15.how important, it is important, isn't it, to take the country

:30:16. > :30:23.obviously, the 52% who voted out to get it right? Yes, absolutely. This

:30:24. > :30:29.is why, in terms of what was intended by the No vote, the vote to

:30:30. > :30:32.leave, it isn't clear what people wanted in terms of the detail beyond

:30:33. > :30:36.leaving which is why it is important that Parliament gets a say, but with

:30:37. > :30:39.our 27 other EU partners, it is not just about immigration and the

:30:40. > :30:44.economy that we're talking about, there is a lot more that Britain can

:30:45. > :30:48.offer. For example, co-operation on security and intelligence. We have

:30:49. > :30:56.superior intelligence services to most of the member states. That's

:30:57. > :30:59.why we should incorporate? Part of the thing you say to them when

:31:00. > :31:03.you're trying it get a deal, that's one of the things you get from us

:31:04. > :31:08.and we can offer you. We are at the start of a week-long process on the

:31:09. > :31:11.hearings at the Supreme Court. So hopefully we'll hear your views

:31:12. > :31:14.again and you can come back. You're welcome. There is plenty to talk

:31:15. > :31:16.about. Thank you very much indeed for joining us and let us know your

:31:17. > :31:21.thoughts as well. Italy is facing a day of political

:31:22. > :31:25.and financial turbulence following the defeat

:31:26. > :31:27.of Prime Minister Matteo Renzi's He will resign, and his

:31:28. > :31:31.imminent departure has The developments are likely

:31:32. > :31:35.to overshadow a meeting of Eurozone A landmark legal hearing begins

:31:36. > :31:41.today which will determine who has the authority to begin the process

:31:42. > :31:44.of the UK leaving The Supreme Court will hear

:31:45. > :31:51.an appeal from the Government, which believes it has the right

:31:52. > :31:53.to trigger Article 50 The 11 justices will meet

:31:54. > :31:57.for the first time in the court's history in a hearing

:31:58. > :31:59.which will last four days. Public institutions have too often

:32:00. > :32:05.ignored, or even condoned divisive and harmful religious practices

:32:06. > :32:07.for fear of being labelled racist, according to

:32:08. > :32:14.a government-commissioned review. In her 200-page report,

:32:15. > :32:16.Dame Louise Casey suggests among other things that

:32:17. > :32:19.immigrants intending to settle in Britain should take

:32:20. > :32:23.an "integration oath". Fleet Town Football Club

:32:24. > :32:26.says a former coach accused of abusing youth players

:32:27. > :32:30.at Southampton FC in the 1980s The BBC has spoken to six former

:32:31. > :32:35.footballers who have made Until recently, he worked

:32:36. > :32:39.with Fleet Town's adult first team That's a summary of the latest BBC

:32:40. > :32:48.News - more at 10.00. Bournemouth produced one

:32:49. > :32:52.of the comebacks of the season with less than half an hour left,

:32:53. > :32:58.but fought back to win 4-3. Afterwards, Liverpool manager

:32:59. > :33:00.Jurgen Klopp said Bournemouth Elsewhere, Everton and

:33:01. > :33:06.Manchester United drew 1-1. There was another remarkable

:33:07. > :33:08.comeback in the second Non-league Curzon Ashton led

:33:09. > :33:13.Wimbledon 3-0 with just 10 minutes left, but their hopes were shattered

:33:14. > :33:15.when the League One side Elsewhere, National League

:33:16. > :33:19.side Barrow beat League from Ronnie O'Sullivan

:33:20. > :33:27.to win his second UK Championship Selby had led 6-2 after the first

:33:28. > :33:31.session and held his nerve to

:33:32. > :33:36.eventually win 10-7. And Wasps have moved up to second

:33:37. > :33:38.in Rugby Union's Premiership. They're now just a point

:33:39. > :33:40.behind leaders Saracens after a comfortable

:33:41. > :33:50.win at Worcester. It's now more than two weeks

:33:51. > :33:54.since several former football players came forward

:33:55. > :33:56.with allegations of historic child Since then, the inquiry into child

:33:57. > :34:02.sex abuse in football has broadened in scope beyond what anyone

:34:03. > :34:04.could have imagined. with allegations of historical child

:34:05. > :34:10.abuse suffered at football clubs. And 18 police forces

:34:11. > :34:15.are involved in investigations. In the latest development,

:34:16. > :34:19.Fleet Town football club has confirmed that a man

:34:20. > :34:21.who was on the coaching staff, despite being at the centre

:34:22. > :34:24.of historical sex abuse allegations, Bob Higgins, who was a former youth

:34:25. > :34:29.development officer at Southampton, has been named by a number of former

:34:30. > :34:33.youth players, who claimed to police Here's what we know

:34:34. > :35:56.so far about the inquiry. BBC South's Home Affairs

:35:57. > :35:58.correspondent, Emma Vardy, is at Southampton football club

:35:59. > :36:11.for us. Talk us through these latest

:36:12. > :36:14.allegations? Well, in recent days a number of former Southampton players

:36:15. > :36:19.have been coming forward alleging that Bob Higgins abused them. I

:36:20. > :36:24.myself have spoken to six former Southampton youth team players who

:36:25. > :36:28.have described their allegations. In the '80s, Bob Higgins was the youth

:36:29. > :36:31.development click here. He had a lot of power over careers. He was

:36:32. > :36:38.someone that schoolboy footballers looked up to and he brought a number

:36:39. > :36:42.of players into the club's ranks. In 1992, Higgins faced charges for

:36:43. > :36:46.sexual abuse. He was cleared of those on the direction of a judge.

:36:47. > :36:50.But five years later, a letter was sent to schools and youth groups,

:36:51. > :36:55.and in its police and social services said they had concerns that

:36:56. > :36:59.Bob Higgins pose a risk to children. Despite this, later on Bob Higgins

:37:00. > :37:06.went on to join the coaching team at Fleet Town football club with their

:37:07. > :37:12.first team. And Fleet Town have said that they did not carry out any

:37:13. > :37:15.criminal records check on him? That's right, Fleet Town said last

:37:16. > :37:19.night that Bob Higgins is no longer involved with the club. They

:37:20. > :37:23.explained that no police checks were made when he joined, because his

:37:24. > :37:28.role did not involve working with children. But the FA has said that

:37:29. > :37:33.these checks are not required within what the FA calls open age football.

:37:34. > :37:37.If unenhanced cheque had been made, it is likely that it would have

:37:38. > :37:42.flagged up those concerns that were raised in that letter in 1997.

:37:43. > :37:48.Meanwhile, Southampton Football Club has given its full support to any

:37:49. > :37:51.police investigation for however long it takes.

:37:52. > :37:53.In a moment, we'll talk to Dean Radford, who Emma Vardy

:37:54. > :37:56.was just referring to as being the latest former football

:37:57. > :38:01.He's waived his right to anonymity to talk to us today.

:38:02. > :38:04.But as we've just heard, Bob Higgins was charged with six

:38:05. > :38:06.counts of indecent assault of young boys.

:38:07. > :38:12.In 1991, Mr Higgins was acquitted of all counts on the direction

:38:13. > :38:14.of the trial judge and has always denied

:38:15. > :38:18.Despite this, Hampshire Police and social services

:38:19. > :38:21.were so concerned that they alerted local youth groups in the area

:38:22. > :38:27.Until recently, he was still working as a first time coach at Fleet Town.

:38:28. > :38:33.The club now says he has left the club.

:38:34. > :38:35.Prior to joining Fleet, Bob Higgins was a youth development

:38:36. > :38:37.officer at Southampton, responsible for trying

:38:38. > :38:43.to discover the future stars of English football.

:38:44. > :38:51.The skills they are working on in the gym give them the facility to

:38:52. > :38:54.practise with. And hopefully, they will develop into better players.

:38:55. > :39:00.The Fleet Town chairman Steve Cantle sent us this statement:

:39:01. > :39:03."The Fleet Town Football Club has received no notification from either

:39:04. > :39:06.the FA or the Police in respect of allegations made about anyone

:39:07. > :39:10.Bob Higgins is no longer involved at the Fleet Town Football Club.

:39:11. > :39:12.The club can confirm that Bob Higgins has previously been

:39:13. > :39:15.involved at the club at different times, on an informal

:39:16. > :39:19.unpaid basis as a coach for our adult 1st team side.

:39:20. > :39:21.His involvement was limited to assisting the coaching team

:39:22. > :39:23.with the adult first-team squad of players.

:39:24. > :39:31.Our first team is currently the club's only side."

:39:32. > :39:42.We can talk now to Dean Radford. You were 13 when you were asked to go to

:39:43. > :39:47.Southampton for some trials and practice. For a boy of 13 who had

:39:48. > :39:55.dreams of becoming a football star, how exciting was that? Yes,

:39:56. > :40:01.basically, it was the opportunity of a lifetime. It was something that as

:40:02. > :40:07.a child, you just want to become a professional footballer. And this

:40:08. > :40:11.was the opportunity you saw in front of you and you felt so lucky and

:40:12. > :40:19.excited, and you wanted to embrace it. How did you regard the coaches

:40:20. > :40:25.and the people around you in that environment? Basically, Bob Higgins,

:40:26. > :40:33.who I can name now, he helped so much power. In the football club,

:40:34. > :40:39.there wasn't a panel of selectors or judges. It was basically Bob Higgins

:40:40. > :40:45.that made the decision and held that power. He had something that every

:40:46. > :40:51.child wanted. And they wanted it badly. So he had that power and he

:40:52. > :40:55.made that decision on his own. When you were 14, you formally signed as

:40:56. > :40:58.an associated schoolboy, which took the club's commitment to you to

:40:59. > :41:03.another level. You were travelling to the club from your home in

:41:04. > :41:07.Bristol and at that stage, Bob Higgins started to ask you to stay

:41:08. > :41:15.over at his home. How did you feel about that? To be honest, at first I

:41:16. > :41:20.was excited. I felt privileged. It was like an honour to have this guy

:41:21. > :41:24.who I looked up to that was going to decide my future for me to open his

:41:25. > :41:31.doors to me and take me into his home. And you were not the only

:41:32. > :41:37.player staying at his house. How did you see him behaving around other

:41:38. > :41:43.players? As soon as I started to stay at his home, that was when my

:41:44. > :41:47.eyes were opened to the touching on the cuddling and the affection that

:41:48. > :41:56.he was giving towards myself and other players. But again, it was

:41:57. > :41:59.something that I sort of embraced, because when he wanted me to be part

:42:00. > :42:06.of that and he told me the reasons why, then you believed him. His

:42:07. > :42:11.reasons were that I needed to trust him, and we could go a long way

:42:12. > :42:14.together and he could make me a star, and that was what you

:42:15. > :42:18.believed. And you went along with it. When you talk about the touching

:42:19. > :42:27.and cuddling, described more about what you mean by that and what you

:42:28. > :42:39.saw in the house? Well, just in the house alone, you would be cuddled up

:42:40. > :42:43.with him on the settee, but you would also... It just wasn't normal

:42:44. > :42:48.when you look back. At the time, you it and you felt wanted by him, but

:42:49. > :42:52.then it led to other things. At the time, I didn't question it. I felt

:42:53. > :42:55.grateful, because he would go to bed and then he would call me into his

:42:56. > :42:59.bedroom and I would go into his bedroom and it would be pitch black,

:43:00. > :43:06.and I would stand at the end of his bed while he was in bed, asking me

:43:07. > :43:10.questions about my training and I have to tell him how much I want to

:43:11. > :43:15.be a professional and how far I was prepared to go, would I run through

:43:16. > :43:23.brick walls for him? It was like he was grooming me. You did ultimately

:43:24. > :43:29.make allegations to police about the way he treated you. Those

:43:30. > :43:34.allegations then went to court and on the directions of the judge, he

:43:35. > :43:41.was cleared. Tell us more about the specific allegations you made? I was

:43:42. > :43:48.told at the time that I couldn't discuss the other things that were

:43:49. > :43:54.going on at the home in his bedroom, in the car, even. The one incident

:43:55. > :43:59.that happened to me was on a residential schoolboy which, where I

:44:00. > :44:14.developed an injury in the bottom of my spine and he asked me back to the

:44:15. > :44:20.bedroom. And he told me he was going to massage the bruising from the

:44:21. > :44:32.bottom of my spine. So I had to pull my shorts down, and lay down. I lay

:44:33. > :44:39.face down, and he basically inserted his fingers into my backside. That

:44:40. > :44:45.went on for about 20 or 30 seconds. As I mentioned, this is an

:44:46. > :44:53.allegation that went to court and on the judge's orders, he was cleared

:44:54. > :44:59.of the allegations against him. Did that mean that you subsequently put

:45:00. > :45:04.behind you the sorts of things you are talking about? Not at all. There

:45:05. > :45:12.are certain things I can't talk about about the court case. But

:45:13. > :45:19.after that, I was 21 when I went to court. You think you are going to

:45:20. > :45:26.get over it and move on and have your own children. But that doesn't

:45:27. > :45:31.happen. I am a happy guy, I have a fantastic wife, fantastic family and

:45:32. > :45:38.children, everything is amazing. But he scarred me. And as I get older,

:45:39. > :45:42.it gets worse to try and forget about, because the time is going on

:45:43. > :45:46.and you think to yourself, I am not going to forget about it. And there

:45:47. > :45:54.are times when I go very dark places. Obviously, around now, it is

:45:55. > :45:57.not a good time, because it is all out there. But I'm glad it is out,

:45:58. > :46:35.because it is something I have to deal with burying it.

:46:36. > :46:44.You don't want to know that other people have been affected by I have.

:46:45. > :46:49.By the things that have gone. We would like to encourage more people

:46:50. > :46:53.to come forward. Thank you very much indeed for

:46:54. > :47:03.talking to us, Dean Radford, thank you.

:47:04. > :47:11.The civil war in Syria is almost six-years-old.

:47:12. > :47:12.The vicious fighting amongst the various factions has led to more

:47:13. > :47:13.than 11 million people being forced from their homes.

:47:14. > :47:14.The International Medical Corps has been interviewing some

:47:15. > :47:15.of those refugees in Turkey about what precious possession

:47:16. > :47:17.they grabbed before they fled, in work funded by the European

:47:18. > :48:35.My name is Kotha Johani from a village in the Homs countryside.

:48:36. > :48:44.Another child of mine, they took him by force.

:48:45. > :48:45.They said he was with Al-Nusra Front and arrested him.

:48:46. > :48:51.I haven't heard anything about him for four years.

:48:52. > :48:59.I came to Turkey and it's been so hard.

:49:00. > :49:01.I love coffee and my grandfather and uncles and husband loved it too.

:49:02. > :49:09.This coffee pot I took everywhere, if I went on a picnic, everywhere.

:49:10. > :49:18.It stayed with me and it stays all the time.

:49:19. > :49:21.When the airstrike happened I was sitting in the house.

:49:22. > :49:27.We were drinking coffee and I went to wash the plates and cups

:49:28. > :49:31.and I immediately put it in a black bag.

:49:32. > :49:39.I asked my son to find a car so we could leave.

:49:40. > :49:59.I like coffee more than food, more than anything.

:50:00. > :50:08.If it's morning or night, I'll still drink coffee.

:50:09. > :50:13.My name is Layla and I'm 22 years old.

:50:14. > :50:27.The day that I left, it was in 2014, it was in October.

:50:28. > :50:32.In that time, the Islamic State, they were about to control the area

:50:33. > :50:41.I heard from the radio they were saying they are coming,

:50:42. > :50:45.so it means that it's the time that we have to think to run

:50:46. > :51:00.Me and my family, we just tried to find a way to run.

:51:01. > :51:01.The moment we decided to leave, my father was calling us

:51:02. > :51:04.to ride the car quickly, we have to move now.

:51:05. > :51:12.I just took some of my fashion books.

:51:13. > :51:15.In that moment, when I took it, nothing came to my mind.

:51:16. > :51:17.Only my fashion books came to my mind, that

:51:18. > :51:19.I have to save them, because all my ideas

:51:20. > :51:29.I'm helping my family and I can't focus more on designing

:51:30. > :51:33.like I was doing before but sometimes when I have free time,

:51:34. > :51:41.I definitely go back to design something.

:51:42. > :51:44.When I hold my books and when I check it,

:51:45. > :51:46.I remember all the moments I was painting clothes,

:51:47. > :51:51.I was designing, and how it was coming to my mind.

:51:52. > :51:54.It makes me feel like I go back in time.

:51:55. > :51:56.I go back to the time that I made those designs.

:51:57. > :52:02.It makes me feel happy and sad at the same time.

:52:03. > :52:04.Happy because I see my designs as something very nice.

:52:05. > :52:08.Actually, I am proud of each design I am making because it looks

:52:09. > :52:11.like a different thing, a modern thing.

:52:12. > :52:13.And sad because it makes me remember the sad moments

:52:14. > :52:28.I was living in Syria, designing at the same time.

:52:29. > :53:03.The bombers came and the army came and destroyed our house.

:53:04. > :53:12.They shot fire and destroyed all my toys.

:53:13. > :53:18.They didn't leave a single piece of them.

:53:19. > :53:27.As the plane was coming and bombing, I was scared.

:53:28. > :53:47.I took the Spiderman costume and I put it in the bag and I left.

:53:48. > :54:00.I will be a fighter and go fight Bashar.

:54:01. > :54:12.When I have the costume, I feel strong.

:54:13. > :54:34.I'm from Hama, from a town called Halfaya.

:54:35. > :54:37.I was a painter and decorator in Syria and from that work I bought

:54:38. > :54:46.The shop was going well and I had good customers.

:54:47. > :55:00.They came and went until the beginning of the revolution.

:55:01. > :55:02.The bombs would sometimes hit our village.

:55:03. > :55:07.One day, the shelling in our village came early

:55:08. > :55:21.I took my family, my son and my wife, to the basement.

:55:22. > :55:41.The only thing I brought with me was my brother's shirt.

:55:42. > :56:04.He wasn't just my brother but my friend.

:56:05. > :56:06.He was everything a friend should be.

:56:07. > :56:11.We would chat about anything and everything.

:56:12. > :56:29.When I hold the shirt, I feel sad and happy.

:56:30. > :56:32.I feel happy it's something from him.

:56:33. > :56:42.I don't know how to explain what I think but I feel happy

:56:43. > :56:53.I hope my children's future is better than ours.

:56:54. > :57:11.I hope that God sends them nicer days, better than the life we left.

:57:12. > :57:26.Hello, my name is Nur and I'm ten years old.

:57:27. > :57:32.When I left Syria I took my doctor's kit.

:57:33. > :57:38.Her name is Lucy but I couldn't take her with me because we left

:57:39. > :57:49.Lucy was my friend from when I was little.

:57:50. > :58:02.When she got sick, I took care of her and gave her medicine.

:58:03. > :58:10.When we came here, I got another doll to replace Lucy.

:58:11. > :58:14.I was sitting with my mum in the living room, watching TV.

:58:15. > :58:33.They ran in and said, "Grab the bags.

:58:34. > :58:45.We were only meant to be in Turkey for three months,

:58:46. > :58:56.But we didn't go back and it made me cry.

:58:57. > :59:48.Now the weather. Good morning. It has been a frosty start to the day

:59:49. > :00:20.today. Temperatures at the moment are still minus nine Celsius in

:00:21. > :00:45.parts of Scotland and minus three in parts of England and we've got

:00:46. > :00:51.patchy fog. Welcome to the programme

:00:52. > :00:53.if you've just joined us. Coming up before 11: Who has

:00:54. > :00:56.the final say about when we leave the European Union -

:00:57. > :00:58.the Government or Parliament? This morning, the biggest

:00:59. > :01:00.constitutional case for a generation gets under way in the Supreme Court

:01:01. > :01:02.- we've been hearing People knew exactly

:01:03. > :01:06.what they were voting for. What that meant was coming out

:01:07. > :01:09.of the EU, control of our we live in some sort

:01:10. > :01:14.of elected dictatorship. She's saying the country voted

:01:15. > :01:16.to leave the European Union, and therefore "I get to dictate

:01:17. > :01:21.the way in which that happens". A former Southampton youth coach was

:01:22. > :01:24.able to keep working as a coach recently after he was not police

:01:25. > :01:27.checked for his new job. Bob Higgins was cleared of sexual abuse charges

:01:28. > :01:30.in 1992, but had been the subject of a police warning about his

:01:31. > :01:36.behaviour. One former player at Southampton told us he was abused by

:01:37. > :01:41.him as a boy. He scarred me, and as I get older, it gets worse to try

:01:42. > :01:45.and forget about, because the time is going on and you say to yourself,

:01:46. > :01:50.I am not going to forget about it. There are times when I go very dark

:01:51. > :01:54.places. For anyone who has experienced sexual abuse as a young

:01:55. > :01:56.footballer, the NSPCC has every appliance which offers advice and

:01:57. > :02:07.support. Are local communities becoming more

:02:08. > :02:12.and more racially divided? A major report on integration

:02:13. > :02:15.in Britain says they are, and that public authorities aren't

:02:16. > :02:18.tackling the problem out of a fear We'll be discussing the report's

:02:19. > :02:23.findings later this hour. A landmark legal hearing begins

:02:24. > :02:32.today which will determine who has the authority to begin the process

:02:33. > :02:35.of the UK leaving The Supreme Court will hear

:02:36. > :02:40.an appeal from the Government which believes it has the right

:02:41. > :02:42.to trigger Article 50 The 11 justices will meet

:02:43. > :02:47.for the first time in the court's history in a hearing

:02:48. > :02:49.which will last four days. Italy is facing a day of political

:02:50. > :02:56.and financial turbulence following the defeat

:02:57. > :02:58.of Prime Minister Matteo Renzi's He will resign, and his

:02:59. > :03:03.imminent departure has It is feared that a much-needed

:03:04. > :03:16.bailouts will now be more difficult. Public institutions have too often

:03:17. > :03:19.ignored, or even condoned divisive and harmful religious practices

:03:20. > :03:21.for fear of being labelled racist, according to

:03:22. > :03:22.a government-commissioned review. In her 200 page report,

:03:23. > :03:25.Dame Louise Casey suggests among other things that

:03:26. > :03:27.immigrants intending to settle in Britain should take

:03:28. > :03:29.an "integration oath". We have to, frankly,

:03:30. > :03:34.emancipate people in this country who've lived here now for more

:03:35. > :03:37.than five or ten years, still can't speak English, still have

:03:38. > :03:40.no option of a job. We are keeping them behind not only

:03:41. > :03:43.in terms of poverty, Fleet Town Football Club

:03:44. > :03:49.says a former coach accused of abusing youth players

:03:50. > :03:53.at Southampton FC in the 1980s The BBC has spoken to six former

:03:54. > :03:58.footballers who have made Until recently, he worked

:03:59. > :04:03.with Fleet Town's adult first team Meanwhile, three former footballers

:04:04. > :04:13.who lifted the lid on alleged widespread child sexual abuse

:04:14. > :04:15.in the game have announced they're forming an independent organisation

:04:16. > :04:18.to support other potential victims. Andy Woodward, Steve Walters

:04:19. > :04:20.and Chris Unsworth want the "Offside Trust" to represent

:04:21. > :04:24.players and their families. Since they spoke out,

:04:25. > :04:26.hundreds more alleged 18 police forces are now

:04:27. > :04:35.investigating related claims. The US President-elect

:04:36. > :04:36.Donald Trump has attacked the policies of China in a series

:04:37. > :04:39.of strongly-worded tweets. He accused Beijing of currency

:04:40. > :04:41.manipulation and flexing Last week, Mr Trump was criticised

:04:42. > :04:45.for taking a phone call from the President of Taiwan,

:04:46. > :04:48.an island the US hasn't had diplomatic ties

:04:49. > :05:09.with for almost 40 years. A German court has sentenced a train

:05:10. > :05:13.controller to jail after a train crash in Bavaria. He made a

:05:14. > :05:17.signalling error and dialled the wrong emergency number. He also said

:05:18. > :05:22.he was plain computer games on his mobile phone at the time. Two

:05:23. > :05:25.commuter trains collided on attack near the Bavarian town in February,

:05:26. > :05:32.killing 12 people and injuring 89 others.

:05:33. > :05:35.Last week on this programme, we spoke to Joe Bartley,

:05:36. > :05:38.an 89-year-old who had put an ad in a local paper looking for work

:05:39. > :05:43.Well - it's worked - as he's now started his new job.

:05:44. > :05:45.Joe was met with cheers from customers when he clocked

:05:46. > :05:48.on for the first time at this cafe bar in Paignton in Devon.

:05:49. > :05:51.He had become a bit of a celebrity after advertising for work.

:05:52. > :05:54.He spent his first day serving up roast dinners and mince pies.

:05:55. > :05:59.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.30.

:06:00. > :06:05.Bournemouth got their first ever win over Liverpool and they did it

:06:06. > :06:11.with one of the comebacks of the Premier League season.

:06:12. > :06:13.Eddie Howe's side recovered from 2-0 and then 3-1

:06:14. > :06:17.down, as Nathan Ake's goal in injury time gave them a 4-3 victory.

:06:18. > :06:19.Liverpool are four points behind league leaders Chelsea.

:06:20. > :06:22.The win moves Bournemouth up to tenth in what was another

:06:23. > :06:33.For everyone involved, it is massive. It makes all the hard work

:06:34. > :06:39.and dedication the players give to their craft, it makes for a special

:06:40. > :06:42.day. And for the first time ever, Bournemouth have beaten Liverpool?

:06:43. > :06:46.That is in line with our history. These days are huge for us. We had

:06:47. > :06:50.never been in the Premier League before this season. We are doing

:06:51. > :06:51.firsts all the time. A late goal also scuppered

:06:52. > :06:53.Manchester United's hopes Zlatan Ibrahimovic put them

:06:54. > :06:56.ahead with a lovely lob. But United manager Jose Mourinho

:06:57. > :06:58.was criticised for bringing on Marouane Fellaini

:06:59. > :07:00.late in the game. As the midfielder gave away

:07:01. > :07:03.a penalty with a clumsy challenge Leighton Baines' spot kick earned

:07:04. > :07:06.Everton a draw. The point does lift United up

:07:07. > :07:09.to sixth, but they're 13 points off And afterwards, Mourinho was asked

:07:10. > :07:27.what exactly his thinking I thought you would know more about

:07:28. > :07:34.football than you do, because the answer is obvious. Everton is not a

:07:35. > :07:38.passing team any more, like they were. Everton is a team that plays

:07:39. > :07:42.direct. And when you have on the bench a player with two meters, you

:07:43. > :07:43.play the player in front of the defensive line to help the team to

:07:44. > :07:46.win the match. There was drama in

:07:47. > :07:51.yesterday's FA Cup action as non-league Curzon Ashton also

:07:52. > :07:52.suffered late heartbreak against League One AFC Wimbledon

:07:53. > :07:55.- losing 4-3. Curzon were 3-0 up

:07:56. > :07:57.after 80 minutes, thanks But then came four goals

:07:58. > :08:01.in a remarkable 10-minute spell, Tom Elliott scoring the winner

:08:02. > :08:03.to send the Dons into What a moment, though,

:08:04. > :08:09.for Barrow from the National League. They won 2-1 at League

:08:10. > :08:11.One Bristol Rovers - Byron Harrison, the scorer

:08:12. > :08:19.of both Barrow goals. World number one Mark Selby has won

:08:20. > :08:22.the UK Snooker Championship He beat five-time winner

:08:23. > :08:25.Ronnie O'Sullivan in what was one of the greatest finals

:08:26. > :08:28.at the York Barbican O'Sullivan fought back from five frames

:08:29. > :08:30.down to trail by one, but Selby hit three centuries

:08:31. > :08:32.to clinch a 10-7 victory. He's only the sixth player

:08:33. > :08:52.to win the World and UK To play Ronnie in any game, not just

:08:53. > :08:57.a major final, but any much, it gives you a buzz and makes you want

:08:58. > :09:01.to play well. I knew I had to be on top of my game because if I only

:09:02. > :09:04.played at 50 or 60%, I would not have won. He and Stephen Hendry two

:09:05. > :09:10.of the greatest players to ever play the game. So as I say, to play him

:09:11. > :09:14.in major finals, I have played in now in the world final, the Masters

:09:15. > :09:15.final and the UK final, so it is a fantastic feeling.

:09:16. > :09:18.England's netball team lost their three-match series

:09:19. > :09:24.with Jamaica 2-1 after defeat in the decisive Test in Coventry.

:09:25. > :09:27.Tracy Neville's side took an early lead, but Jamaica were too strong

:09:28. > :09:29.in a tense final quarter and won it 64-57.

:09:30. > :09:33.And Paralympic champion Gordon Reid lost in the final

:09:34. > :09:35.of the Wheelchair Tennis Masters in London, but he'd already secured

:09:36. > :09:38.world number one status to end a memorable year.

:09:39. > :09:42.He was beaten in three sets by defending champion

:09:43. > :09:46.Nonetheless, Reid was still happy with a year that contained two

:09:47. > :09:56.Paralympic medals and two major singles titles.

:09:57. > :10:02.And that is all the sport for now. Plenty more later.

:10:03. > :10:06.Back now to the Supreme Court, where judges are today starting

:10:07. > :10:08.a landmark legal hearing over the Government's argument that it

:10:09. > :10:11.has the right to start the process of leaving the EU

:10:12. > :10:15.Last month, judges at the High Court ruled that ministers needed to seek

:10:16. > :10:17.the approval of parliament before triggering the process

:10:18. > :10:21.But the Government is appealing that decision.

:10:22. > :10:24.11 judges will hear four days of evidence

:10:25. > :10:32.If you're still unsure about why this is all happening

:10:33. > :10:38.and what it means for you, here's a reminder.

:10:39. > :10:43.Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty lays down the rules for any country

:10:44. > :10:50.Once it's triggered, it starts a two-year clock running,

:10:51. > :11:03.But the argument has become about how, under the law,

:11:04. > :11:08.The new Prime Minister's message was clear that:

:11:09. > :11:14.We will invoke Article 50 no later than the end of March next year.

:11:15. > :11:24.She's a businesswoman who, with others, decided

:11:25. > :11:28.to launch the legal case against the government.

:11:29. > :11:33.Their argument is that even though the country voted for Brexit,

:11:34. > :11:36.Theresa May and her Cabinet does not have the legal power

:11:37. > :11:41.to trigger Article 50, that only legislation,

:11:42. > :11:45.an act of Parliament, can give her that authority.

:11:46. > :11:51.Last month, Gina Miller won her case at the High Court.

:11:52. > :11:53.It's about our United Kingdom and all our futures.

:11:54. > :11:59.It threw the whole Brexit process into turmoil.

:12:00. > :12:01.Is the government's Brexit plan now in chaos?

:12:02. > :12:04.It sparked talk of a snap general election and the three High Court

:12:05. > :12:09.judges were plastered all over the papers.

:12:10. > :12:16.So the Government's appealing at the Supreme Court.

:12:17. > :12:23.The Government will appeal to all 11 of the court's justices.

:12:24. > :12:31.It's the first time they've ever all presided over a case.

:12:32. > :12:34.They're independent and ruling on a point of law, but there have

:12:35. > :12:36.been calls for the President of the Supreme Court,

:12:37. > :12:39.Lord Neuberger, to step aside after reports his wife had tweeted

:12:40. > :12:48.that Brexit votes were just protest votes.

:12:49. > :12:51.And Deputy President Lady Hale has already said that Brexit

:12:52. > :13:00.Win or lose, Mrs May could end up in a fight

:13:01. > :13:06.Either she'll be triggering Article 50 herself, or she will push

:13:07. > :13:12.Scotland will never agree to that, because it goes

:13:13. > :13:17.SNP MPs in the House of Commons will certainly not vote

:13:18. > :13:19.for anything that undermines the will or the interests

:13:20. > :13:23.So a second independence referendum could be on the cards.

:13:24. > :13:33.The consequences of whatever happens in here this week

:13:34. > :13:42.Well, keeping an eye on all the goings on is our legal

:13:43. > :13:44.eagle Clive Coleman, who's outside the Supreme

:13:45. > :13:58.We have heard how important this hearing is, and I see that 24,000

:13:59. > :14:01.pages of written submissions have been put before the court, which

:14:02. > :14:08.gives you a sense of the scale of it. It is enormous. In that package,

:14:09. > :14:11.you heard the broad strokes, but today the Supreme Court will get

:14:12. > :14:16.into the real nitty-gritty of the legal arguments. Let's first say

:14:17. > :14:22.what this case is not about. This is not about the merits of whether the

:14:23. > :14:28.UK should leave the EU or not. That was decided beyond question by the

:14:29. > :14:35.referendum. This is about determining whether legal power,

:14:36. > :14:42.under our -- about where the legal power lies to trigger Article 50.

:14:43. > :14:45.Does it lie with ministers, using executive powers that derived from

:14:46. > :14:50.the crown from times when kings and queens could do pretty much what

:14:51. > :14:53.they wanted to do? Whether it can be triggered with those powers, or

:14:54. > :14:57.whether it needs the authority of the representatives of the people

:14:58. > :15:02.who sit over there in Parliament through an act of Parliament. Let me

:15:03. > :15:05.explain. It is quite a complicated argument. Let me explain what I

:15:06. > :15:11.think we'll be at the heart of today's hearing. It is all about the

:15:12. > :15:16.rights that were given to citizens, to you and I, when under the 1972

:15:17. > :15:22.European Communities Act, which brought us into what is now the EU,

:15:23. > :15:27.rights were given to UK citizens. A lot of the argument today will be

:15:28. > :15:33.about the nature of those rights. The government will argue that those

:15:34. > :15:39.rights for under a treaty, and that international treaties are an area

:15:40. > :15:43.where ministers are allowed to use their prerogative powers, their

:15:44. > :15:48.executive powers. So it is legitimate for those rights, brought

:15:49. > :15:53.in through the 1972 act, to be amended, changed or even wiped away

:15:54. > :15:58.entirely by ministers using their prerogative, their executive powers.

:15:59. > :16:03.That is their argument. Gina Miller, the businesswoman who won her case

:16:04. > :16:08.at the High Court, argues that these are full-blown statutory rights.

:16:09. > :16:12.They were granted by Parliament, so only Parliament has the authority to

:16:13. > :16:20.wipe away those rights or to amend them. That will be the heart of the

:16:21. > :16:23.argument, and we will hear the government's case put forward by the

:16:24. > :16:30.Attorney General initially, and then by the QC. That is what we will hear

:16:31. > :16:33.in real detail today. It is going to take us back throughout

:16:34. > :16:36.constitutional history to the case of proclamations in 1610, through

:16:37. > :16:41.the Bill of Rights, through the act of union. We will have a lesson in

:16:42. > :16:45.constitutional history, going back and looking at the powers that the

:16:46. > :16:49.Crown had and that ministers have been given and where the limits of

:16:50. > :16:54.those powers are. For lawyers like me, it will be a fascinating day. It

:16:55. > :16:57.is not going to be easy for nonlawyers to follow, but I will do

:16:58. > :17:05.my best to explain as we go through the day.

:17:06. > :17:11.Of course, the EU referendum divided politicians,

:17:12. > :17:19.friends and even families - not least, the Baxter

:17:20. > :17:25.Ian and Nigel are businessmen, they campaigned on different sides,

:17:26. > :17:27.and voted different ways on June 23rd.

:17:28. > :17:32.Fortunately, they're still able to sit in

:17:33. > :17:35.the same room together, despite their opposing

:17:36. > :17:53.Thank you very much for joining us. Nigel, I'll come to you first,

:17:54. > :17:59.because you run a truck dealership employing more than 80 workers, you

:18:00. > :18:04.voted leave. How do you feel about the process going through the

:18:05. > :18:09.courts? I'm frustrated by it. The United Kingdom citizens, 17.4

:18:10. > :18:12.million of us voted to leave and whilst the merits of this

:18:13. > :18:15.constitutionally maybe right there, is a frustrating tactic that's

:18:16. > :18:17.delaying or exit from the European Union and creating problems for our

:18:18. > :18:20.Prime Minister which are unnecessary. Ian, you own a freight

:18:21. > :18:24.company employing 60 people. Most of your business in Europe. You wanted

:18:25. > :18:29.to remain. Do you think it is right this is going to court? Well, I

:18:30. > :18:32.don't think it should be going to court, but I don't think the

:18:33. > :18:35.Government should be acting in this way. We live in a Parliamentary

:18:36. > :18:40.democracy, don't we? I voted to remain, but I accepted the result of

:18:41. > :18:43.the referendum, but the triggering of Article 50 is something that

:18:44. > :18:46.Parliament should agree with and arrange and the Government should

:18:47. > :18:48.come to Parliament and explain the strategy they have for leaving the

:18:49. > :18:51.European Union. We were talking to politicians

:18:52. > :18:55.earlier and everybody ashaerts they believe the -- asserts what they

:18:56. > :18:57.believe the people meant when they marked their X in the referendum.

:18:58. > :19:00.Nigel, are you clear on what you want Brexit to look like? Well, like

:19:01. > :19:06.all things, there is a big negotiating process to go through.

:19:07. > :19:08.What I dislike about this, in my experience of negotiating, you don't

:19:09. > :19:14.reveal your hand before you start the process and we have a situation

:19:15. > :19:16.here where all of these little pokes that we're getting from individual

:19:17. > :19:18.remoaners are creating issues for the Government, creating issues for

:19:19. > :19:20.the Prime Minister trying to reveal their hand. That's not the way to

:19:21. > :19:24.start a strong negotiation. Ian, you're one of the remoaners he is

:19:25. > :19:27.talking about. Do you think the Government should reveal its hand?

:19:28. > :19:33.Well, I think it should say what the broad strategy is. Its opening

:19:34. > :19:38.gambit if you like. I'm not someone who wants a blow-by-blow commentary.

:19:39. > :19:45.It is clear that the likes of Boris Johnson are now going back on many

:19:46. > :19:48.of the things that they campaigned for in this Leave campaign. He is

:19:49. > :19:51.talking about immigration. He's talking about paying to stay within

:19:52. > :20:04.the single market or something that looks a bit like that. So I think

:20:05. > :20:07.even those that ran the campaign don't know what Brexit should look

:20:08. > :20:09.like and I think it's right therefore n a Parliamentary

:20:10. > :20:11.democracy, that Parliament is involved in that process.

:20:12. > :20:16.You are going to have to reconcile yourself Ian to the fact that we are

:20:17. > :20:20.going out. What are your fears? Well, I have always said leaving the

:20:21. > :20:24.single market will be bad for trade, bad for jobs. But like I say, I

:20:25. > :20:27.accept the result of the referendum. I think we should trigger Article

:20:28. > :20:33.50, what I'm saying is that Parliament has a role to play in

:20:34. > :20:39.that process and the views of all the British people, the 48% as well

:20:40. > :20:42.as the 52% who voted to leave, should be heard as part of that

:20:43. > :20:46.process. Nigel, I hear what you're saying

:20:47. > :20:50.about echoing the Government's position about not revealing too

:20:51. > :20:56.much about the strategy here. In the en, if the Government goes along a

:20:57. > :21:00.path of maintaining access to European markets, maintaining

:21:01. > :21:04.freedom of movement, does much change? Well, I don't believe that

:21:05. > :21:11.we necessarily need to stay inside the single market. I believe that

:21:12. > :21:18.Britain has a strong neglecting position there in terms of trade

:21:19. > :21:22.balance. I don't believe in full free movement of people. And I

:21:23. > :21:25.haven't done and I campaigned against it. I am though a supporter

:21:26. > :21:26.of immigration, but controlled immigration. Britain needs good

:21:27. > :21:31.people to deal with our businesses and our Health Services and so on

:21:32. > :21:35.and so forth, we are going to continue with relatively large

:21:36. > :21:37.numbers. What that number looks like, but controlled, we need

:21:38. > :21:39.skilled people, not unskilled people.

:21:40. > :21:46.In the end then, does it deliver what the people actually wanted it?

:21:47. > :21:50.Well, I believe that we will deliver that, of course, but it will ablong

:21:51. > :21:56.process of negotiation and revealing our hand in the first instance of

:21:57. > :21:58.what it looks like and debate that through Parliament or otherwise is

:21:59. > :22:02.not the right way to do it. Ian, what do you think about the way of

:22:03. > :22:06.Government is handling it? Well, again, I think they are wrong in

:22:07. > :22:12.terms of trying to use the royal prerogative for this process. We

:22:13. > :22:15.don't use it in the context of Syria for instance. So the Government has

:22:16. > :22:17.gone to Parliament and asked for consent when they theoretically

:22:18. > :22:25.could have used the prerogativement jnly though, I think, Theresa May

:22:26. > :22:32.has been right to take her time to consider all the basises and to say

:22:33. > :22:39.we will trigger Article 50 by the end of March. I think that's

:22:40. > :22:45.sensible and I'm not somebody who wants a second referendum. I believe

:22:46. > :22:48.the Government has to set out its plans. It has to start the

:22:49. > :22:51.negotiation from one point and in the end, make a compromise that will

:22:52. > :22:54.take into account the views of British people from across the

:22:55. > :22:57.spectrum. You're both being polite in clearly articulating your

:22:58. > :23:02.different views. Are you always this polite with each other, or do you

:23:03. > :23:07.get into proper rows about this? No, we are civilised most of the time!

:23:08. > :23:11.This process of the referendum has been a good thing for Ian and I, we

:23:12. > :23:15.have become closer together even though it involved lively debate as

:23:16. > :23:17.you might imagine. I think the important thing is that people on

:23:18. > :23:22.both sides of the debate listen to Ypres other more and that's the

:23:23. > :23:25.point that I'm making. Parliament should have its say. Be part of this

:23:26. > :23:28.process and the Government should listen to those views.

:23:29. > :23:36.Nigel and Ian Baxter, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

:23:37. > :23:41.Let us know your thoughts on that as well.

:23:42. > :23:49.Rachel segregation is growing. That's the conclusion of a report

:23:50. > :23:54.out this morning. We will discuss its findings later on.

:23:55. > :23:59.Let's return now to that big story in Europe this morning -

:24:00. > :24:01.the resignation of the Italian prime minister after a heavy

:24:02. > :24:08.Voices in Brussels have been saying the vote was about domestic

:24:09. > :24:10.constitutional reform, and not about the popularity

:24:11. > :24:18.But the campaign was led by populist anti-establishment politicians -

:24:19. > :24:27.So what does all these mean for European politics

:24:28. > :24:31.Let's speak now to Professor Matthew Goodwin, associate fellow

:24:32. > :24:33.of the Europe Programme at Chatham House and

:24:34. > :24:36.Dr Sofia Vasilopoulou, Senior Lecturer in Politics,

:24:37. > :24:42.And from Sheffield we have Dr Arianna Giovannini,

:24:43. > :24:42.Lecturer in Politics at De Montfort University.

:24:43. > :24:53.Thank you very much for joining us. I come to you first of all, doctor.

:24:54. > :25:05.Now that Prime Minister Renzi has resigned. How significant is this?

:25:06. > :25:08.Well, the resignation of Prime Minister Renzi is significant. In

:25:09. > :25:13.the first place this means that we will have to wait until what happens

:25:14. > :25:18.this afternoon, will he actually goes and see the president of the

:25:19. > :25:19.Republic and hand in his resignation, at that point the

:25:20. > :25:23.president of the Republic will have an important decision to make. It

:25:24. > :25:26.looks like he has three options. He can refuse to accept Renzi's

:25:27. > :25:31.resignations and ask him to stay in power and pass the Budget and also

:25:32. > :25:34.try to settle down the issue of the new electoral low. The second option

:25:35. > :25:38.which seems to be most likely is that he will accept the resignation,

:25:39. > :25:43.he will then call in a new Prime Minister, this is likely to be a

:25:44. > :25:48.technocratic sort of Government. So he will look for a political figure

:25:49. > :25:56.able to give a sign of stability to Italy and Europe. The names are

:25:57. > :26:04.either the current president of the Senate, or the minister of finance.

:26:05. > :26:06.Again, the main purpose of this new technocrat k Government would be

:26:07. > :26:13.that of passing the Budget in the first place for 2017 and also

:26:14. > :26:18.settling the issue of the electoral low. The problem with the electoral

:26:19. > :26:22.low the Government past a new low. This was suppose to work in tandem

:26:23. > :26:28.with the constitutional reform. The constitutional reform didn't pass.

:26:29. > :26:33.That means there is a new electoral low for the Chamber of Deputies, but

:26:34. > :26:38.there is not an electoral low for the Senate. Is this is what unfolds

:26:39. > :26:42.going forward. Matthew Goodwin, is this another kick for the

:26:43. > :26:48.establishment Well, it is another crisis for the European Union. We

:26:49. > :26:53.had a big day yesterday in Europe. We had the Austrian elections at the

:26:54. > :26:57.same time as the Italian referendum. Some EU mainstream commentators were

:26:58. > :27:01.celebrating that particular result because the populist right were not

:27:02. > :27:08.successful, but at the same time the possible ulist got 67% in Austria

:27:09. > :27:14.and the broader picture in Europe is I would suggest of a Continent

:27:15. > :27:17.that's in a volatile place, where politics is less predictable and

:27:18. > :27:18.where antiestablishment moments are really enjoying some of their

:27:19. > :27:24.strongest results. When you look at the two results

:27:25. > :27:29.that we've had, Austria, where the hard right lost and obviously Italy

:27:30. > :27:35.where the establishment has been hit. How volatile do you think

:27:36. > :27:42.things are and unpredictable? They are quite volatile at the moment,

:27:43. > :27:45.but we need to be thinking about the elections that are separate as well.

:27:46. > :27:49.They have got commonalities in the sense that they both provide a

:27:50. > :27:54.platform for antiestablishment and populist politics, but at the same

:27:55. > :27:59.time Italy was a referendum that was called by the Prime Minister. Pretty

:28:00. > :28:05.much, it was as a popularity contest for himself and his Government

:28:06. > :28:10.whereas so he had the choice not to do it. In Austria, it was a vote and

:28:11. > :28:13.an electoral vote for an institutional post that would have

:28:14. > :28:18.happened anyway. One key message that comes out of Italy is that

:28:19. > :28:22.politicians should be careful about setting out referendums that turn

:28:23. > :28:25.into popularity votes because people don't always vote on the basis of

:28:26. > :28:31.the question asked, but there are quite a lot of other arguments that

:28:32. > :28:37.come into play. There are elections next year in France, Germany and the

:28:38. > :28:41.Netherlands. Obviously all highly significant? Yes, we are entering

:28:42. > :28:45.into a series of events that will potentially deal a further plough to

:28:46. > :28:49.the EU whilst it is grappling with a financial crisis and a refugee

:28:50. > :28:52.crisis, you have lee pen in the French presidential elections who

:28:53. > :28:59.will probably make it to the second round. You have the Dutch elections

:29:00. > :29:03.where the latest polls put someone who is critical of Islam as having

:29:04. > :29:05.the largest number of seats and you have the German elections with the

:29:06. > :29:10.anti-immigration and Eurosceptic alternative for Germany who wants to

:29:11. > :29:14.build on State gains and enter the national Parliaments. So if we were

:29:15. > :29:19.to fast forward into the next 12 months, if we were having this

:29:20. > :29:25.conversation a year from now, this debate will be even louder.

:29:26. > :29:30.How does it play with what is going on here in terms of the negotiations

:29:31. > :29:38.of Britain getting out of the EU? Will it make it harder? Against a

:29:39. > :29:46.backdrop of Brexit the EU is going to be faced with a number of

:29:47. > :29:49.challenges on competing fronts and you know we haven't even got into

:29:50. > :29:53.the lack of economic growth in Europe, the disparities between east

:29:54. > :30:02.and west and north and south, this is a Continent that's overridden

:30:03. > :30:07.with crisises and Brexit and the negotiations for us, it means that

:30:08. > :30:11.this political change or this potential political change of new

:30:12. > :30:14.Prime Ministers and new presidents could alter the dynamics of the

:30:15. > :30:20.negotiations significantly. So we're seeing parties that are also quite

:30:21. > :30:24.critical of how the refugee crisis has been handled or free movement

:30:25. > :30:28.and things like that, perhaps possibly helping our negotiations.

:30:29. > :30:33.If ornld the EU is able to push back against the crisises and reassert

:30:34. > :30:34.itself, our negotiations may become harder, so it is all adding to a

:30:35. > :31:14.turd mull tuous period. N the other hand the EU is able to

:31:15. > :31:18.push back against the crisises and reassert itself, our negotiations

:31:19. > :31:25.may become harder, so it is all adding to a turd mull tuous period.

:31:26. > :31:30.There is no, it is not led by a single ableg for. There is a variety

:31:31. > :31:33.of actors. They include moderates and pro-European voices, as well as

:31:34. > :31:39.populist ones. It remains to be seen, it is up to the political

:31:40. > :31:43.parties and the way in which they will react to these to see what will

:31:44. > :31:46.happen in Europe. Thank you very much for joining us.

:31:47. > :31:54.Let us know your thoughts as well. Who decides how we leave

:31:55. > :31:57.the European Union - This morning, the biggest

:31:58. > :32:00.constitutional case for a generation gets under way in the Supreme Court

:32:01. > :32:04.- we'll bring you all the latest. We'll bring you reaction to a major

:32:05. > :32:06.report on integration in Britain which says that for over a decade

:32:07. > :32:09.governments have allowed local communities to become

:32:10. > :32:10.increasingly divided. Time for a summary

:32:11. > :32:12.of the day's news. A landmark legal hearing begins

:32:13. > :32:15.today which will determine who has the authority to begin the process

:32:16. > :32:17.of the UK leaving The Supreme Court will hear

:32:18. > :32:21.an appeal from the Government, which believes it has the right

:32:22. > :32:23.to trigger Article 50 The 11 justices will meet

:32:24. > :32:27.for the first time in the court's history in a hearing

:32:28. > :32:29.which will last four days. Italy is facing a day of political

:32:30. > :32:33.and financial turbulence following the defeat

:32:34. > :32:35.of Prime Minister Matteo Renzi's He will resign, and his

:32:36. > :32:41.imminent departure has The developments are likely

:32:42. > :32:44.to overshadow a meeting of Eurozone Public institutions have too often

:32:45. > :32:51.ignored or even condoned divisive and harmful religious practices

:32:52. > :32:53.for fear of being labelled racist, according to

:32:54. > :32:56.a Government-commissioned review. In her 200 page report,

:32:57. > :33:00.Dame Louise Casey suggests among other things that

:33:01. > :33:02.immigrants intending to settle in Britain should take

:33:03. > :33:08.an "integration oath". Fleet Town Football Club

:33:09. > :33:12.says a former coach accused of abusing youth players

:33:13. > :33:14.at Southampton FC in the 1980s The BBC has spoken to six former

:33:15. > :33:21.footballers who have made Until recently, he worked

:33:22. > :33:26.with Fleet Town's adult first team Meanwhile, three former footballers

:33:27. > :33:36.who lifted the lid on alleged widespread child sexual abuse

:33:37. > :33:40.in the game, have announced they're forming an independent organisation

:33:41. > :33:50.to support other potential victims. He scarred me. As I get older, it

:33:51. > :33:53.becomes harder to forget about is the time goes on. You say to

:33:54. > :33:55.yourself, I'm not going to forget about it, and there are times I go

:33:56. > :33:58.very dark places. Meanwhile, three former footballers

:33:59. > :34:00.who lifted the lid on alleged widespread child sexual abuse

:34:01. > :34:03.in the game, have announced they're forming an independent organisation

:34:04. > :34:05.to support other potential victims. Andy Woodward, Steve Walters

:34:06. > :34:07.and Chris Unsworth want the "Offside Trust" to represent

:34:08. > :34:10.players and their families. Since they spoke out,

:34:11. > :34:12.hundreds more alleged 18 police forces are now

:34:13. > :34:21.investigating related claims. That's a summary of the latest news,

:34:22. > :34:24.join me for BBC Newsroom Bournemouth produced one

:34:25. > :34:33.of the comebacks of the Premier than half an hour left,

:34:34. > :34:39.they fought back to win 4-3. Afterwards, Liverpool manager

:34:40. > :34:40.Jurgen Klopp said Bournemouth Elsewhere, Everton and

:34:41. > :34:46.Manchester United drew 1-1. There was another remarkable

:34:47. > :34:48.comeback in the second as non-league Curzon Ashton led

:34:49. > :34:55.Wimbledon 3-0 with just 10 minutes left, but their hopes were shattered

:34:56. > :34:58.when the League One side Elsewhere, National League

:34:59. > :35:01.side Barrow beat League of the greatest finals -

:35:02. > :35:07.Mark Selby withstanding a comeback from Ronnie O'Sullivan

:35:08. > :35:09.to win his second UK Championship Selby had led 6-2

:35:10. > :35:18.after the first session and held his nerve to

:35:19. > :35:33.eventually win 10-7. Tiger Woods hit five birdies in the

:35:34. > :35:36.Bahamas, but also three bogeys and three double bogeys, including that

:35:37. > :35:42.one on the last to finish four under par. That was 14 shots behind winner

:35:43. > :35:45.Hideki Matsuyama of Japan. So an up-and-down round, but great to see

:35:46. > :35:49.Tiger Woods back playing golf. That is all the sport for now. Plenty

:35:50. > :35:51.more on the BBC News Channel throughout the rest of the day.

:35:52. > :35:54.The highest court in the UK will start hearing the Government's

:35:55. > :36:00.appeal against a ruling that Parliament must discuss the terms

:36:01. > :36:03.of leaving the EU before the process can begin.

:36:04. > :36:05.The Prime Minister Theresa May wants to start the formal Brexit

:36:06. > :36:08.process by April next year, but the High Court ruled in November

:36:09. > :36:10.that this would have to be voted on first.

:36:11. > :36:13.Let's speak now to my colleague Ben Brown, who is outside

:36:14. > :36:23.Yes, we are outside the Supreme Court, the highest court in the

:36:24. > :36:26.land. There are quite a few demonstrators here. Members of the

:36:27. > :36:33.public have been queueing all morning to get inside for this four

:36:34. > :36:38.day hearing. 11 Supreme Court judges will sit together for the first

:36:39. > :36:43.time. It is unprecedented that all 11 Supreme Court judges have sat

:36:44. > :36:46.together to hear this case. Let's discuss it now before it gets under

:36:47. > :36:51.way with Martin Howe, QC, chairman of lawyers for Britain, who supports

:36:52. > :36:57.the government's case in this that the Government should be able to

:36:58. > :37:03.trigger Article 50. And Alison Young, professor of Public Law at

:37:04. > :37:06.Oxford University. Martin, you think Theresa May should just be free to

:37:07. > :37:11.implement what the referendum decision was in June? That is

:37:12. > :37:17.exactly right. The challenge is in this case rely on their rights. They

:37:18. > :37:24.have rights, but other people have rights too. There are 17.4 million

:37:25. > :37:28.people who voted to leave the European Union, and their rights

:37:29. > :37:31.should be respected, their rights not to be governed by European law,

:37:32. > :37:37.their rights not to be governed by the European Parliament and so on.

:37:38. > :37:41.We think it is important that those rights should be brought to the

:37:42. > :37:45.table. We also think that the parliament itself decided that the

:37:46. > :37:50.decision should be taken as a final and binding decision by the British

:37:51. > :37:56.people. There is no need for yet another act of Parliament simply to

:37:57. > :38:01.carry out the decision of the British people. That sounds simple

:38:02. > :38:05.enough when put like that, Alison Young, but explain the argument that

:38:06. > :38:09.Gina Miller, the original businesswoman who brought this case,

:38:10. > :38:15.which was upheld by the High Court last month what her case? Her case

:38:16. > :38:19.is to explain that although there was a decision of the British people

:38:20. > :38:23.to leave the European Union, this case is not asking whether we should

:38:24. > :38:27.leave or remain. This case is asking, legally, how do we do this

:38:28. > :38:30.in the correct manner? So it is asking us to look at the relative

:38:31. > :38:35.powers of the government and the powers of Parliament. Her argument

:38:36. > :38:38.is that the government does have powers which are called prerogative

:38:39. > :38:43.powers, which used to belong to kings and queens, but now belong to

:38:44. > :38:48.members of the government. Their argument is that that power cannot

:38:49. > :38:52.be used to alter rights that you find in statutes. European Union law

:38:53. > :38:56.has been brought in to statutes, so we need Parliament to be able to act

:38:57. > :39:00.to remove those rights. That is not to say we can't leave Europe, it is

:39:01. > :39:06.to make sure we do it in the legally correct manner. Martin, isn't that

:39:07. > :39:10.right, that this is about doing it in the correct way? Gina Miller's

:39:11. > :39:14.original argument was that Parliament enshrined European law

:39:15. > :39:18.into British law in 1972 with that European Communities Act. So if

:39:19. > :39:22.Parliament confers rights on the people, only Parliament can take

:39:23. > :39:27.them away. You don't accept that? But Parliament chose to hold a

:39:28. > :39:31.referendum, and chose explicitly to give the decision to the British

:39:32. > :39:36.people. It couldn't be clearer. Philip Hammond, in his speech

:39:37. > :39:39.introducing the Referendum Bill to parliament, said, this will be a

:39:40. > :39:45.decision for the British people, not parliamentarians in this chamber.

:39:46. > :39:49.What we are talking about here is simply triggering the decision to

:39:50. > :39:53.leave. We are not talking about subsequent things like negotiations

:39:54. > :39:58.and the changes in domestic law that would be needed later to put into

:39:59. > :40:03.effect any negotiated agreement with the European Union. Parliament, of

:40:04. > :40:09.course, has a full role in that. We are simply talking about the

:40:10. > :40:13.decision to leave, and triggering Article 50 is an inevitable

:40:14. > :40:17.consequence of the decision of the British people in the referendum.

:40:18. > :40:20.Alison Young, there are clearly strong feelings about Brexit. At the

:40:21. > :40:24.High Court, some of the newspapers were very critical of the judges

:40:25. > :40:29.said they were enemies of the people. This is a difficult moment

:40:30. > :40:32.for the judiciary. It is a difficult moment because although the case is

:40:33. > :40:40.decided on legal issues, it is hard to deny that the case is very

:40:41. > :40:46.important. It raises a lot of feelings and it is in the context of

:40:47. > :40:49.something that has important political consequences for British

:40:50. > :40:53.people. So is it right that the Supreme Court should have a say on

:40:54. > :40:58.this? I think it is right because they are not being asked whether

:40:59. > :41:02.they agree or disagree with Brexit, they are being asked to say, let's

:41:03. > :41:06.look at the British constitution. Let's look at the distribution of

:41:07. > :41:11.powers between the government and parliament, and less decide who has

:41:12. > :41:15.the power to do this and what is the constitutionally correct manner.

:41:16. > :41:20.Professor of Public Law at Oxford University Alison Young and Martin

:41:21. > :41:26.Howe, QC, chairman of lawyers for Britain, many thanks. Joanna, it all

:41:27. > :41:32.starts at 11 o'clock. We will hear initial remarks from the most senior

:41:33. > :41:37.judge, Lord Newberg. He is expected to save the decision of the judges

:41:38. > :41:42.will be purely on points of law, although he recognises that the

:41:43. > :41:46.Brexit issue arouses strong passions. Then we will hear from the

:41:47. > :41:47.Attorney General, Jeremy Wright QC, for the government. That is all to

:41:48. > :41:51.come. It's now more than two weeks

:41:52. > :41:56.since several former football players came forward

:41:57. > :41:58.with allegations of historic child Since then the inquiry into child

:41:59. > :42:03.sex abuse in football has broadened in scope beyond what anyone

:42:04. > :42:05.could have imagined. In the latest development,

:42:06. > :42:07.Fleet Town football club has confirmed that a man

:42:08. > :42:14.who was on the coaching staff, despite being at the centre

:42:15. > :42:16.of historical sex abuse allegations, Bob Higgins, who was a former youth

:42:17. > :42:20.development officer at Southampton, has been named by a number of former

:42:21. > :42:24.youth players, who claimed to police One former player at

:42:25. > :42:37.Southampton told us He waived his right to anonymity to

:42:38. > :42:37.talk to us this morning. His interview contains some graphic

:42:38. > :42:47.details. I would be cuddled up with him on

:42:48. > :42:51.the settee, but... It just wasn't normal when you look back. At the

:42:52. > :42:56.time, you're appreciated it and you felt wanted it, but then it led to

:42:57. > :43:00.other things. Again, at the time, I didn't question it. I felt grateful,

:43:01. > :43:04.because he would go to bed and then he would call me into his bedroom. I

:43:05. > :43:08.would go into his bedroom and it would be pitch black, and I would

:43:09. > :43:14.stand at the end of his bed while he was in bed, asking the questions.

:43:15. > :43:17.About my training, and I had to tell him how much I wanted to be a

:43:18. > :43:24.professional and how far I was prepared to go, would I run through

:43:25. > :43:30.brick walls for him? It was like he was grooming me. You did ultimately

:43:31. > :43:36.make allegations to police about the way he treated you. Those

:43:37. > :43:42.allegations then went to court and on the directions of the judge, he

:43:43. > :43:49.was cleared. Tell us more about the specific allegations you made? I was

:43:50. > :43:57.told at the time that I couldn't discuss the other things were going

:43:58. > :44:02.on at home in his bedroom, in the car, even. Basically, the one

:44:03. > :44:07.incident that happened to me was on a residential schoolboy week, where

:44:08. > :44:21.I developed an injury in the bottom of my spine, and he asked me back to

:44:22. > :44:27.a bedroom. And he told me he was going to massage the bruising from

:44:28. > :44:39.the bottom of my spine. So I basically had to pull my shorts down

:44:40. > :44:45.and lay down. This was an allegation that went to court on judge's

:44:46. > :44:54.orders, and he was cleared of the allegations against him. Did that

:44:55. > :44:59.mean that you subsequently put behind you the sorts of things you

:45:00. > :45:05.are talking about? Not at all. There are certain things I can't talk

:45:06. > :45:13.about about the court case. But after that, I was 21 when I went to

:45:14. > :45:17.court. So you think you are going to get over it, move on, have your own

:45:18. > :45:25.children and move on, but that doesn't happen. I'm a happy guy, got

:45:26. > :45:30.a fantastic wife, fantastic family and children, everything is amazing.

:45:31. > :45:36.But he scarred me, and as I get older, it gets worse to try and

:45:37. > :45:39.forget about because time is going on and you think to yourself, I am

:45:40. > :45:46.not going to forget about it. And there are times when I go very dark

:45:47. > :45:52.places. Obviously around now, this is not a good time, because it is

:45:53. > :45:56.all out there. But I am glad, because it is something I have got

:45:57. > :46:06.to deal with and stop burying it. I have to deal with it.

:46:07. > :46:19.Many former youth players have come out and have been speaking. How have

:46:20. > :46:26.you felt about that? If I'm honest with you, it is mixed feelings. I

:46:27. > :46:30.said to my wife the other day that I feel so good that I'm better about

:46:31. > :46:36.it all because I feel I've got much more support and you know the lads

:46:37. > :46:41.that I've spoken to, they have been absolutely fantastic, but at the

:46:42. > :46:45.same time, you don't want to know that other people have been affected

:46:46. > :46:49.like I have, with the things that have gone on, but I just would like

:46:50. > :46:52.to encourage more people to come forward though.

:46:53. > :46:54.I should say that Mr Higgins has previously denied all wrongdoing.

:46:55. > :46:59.And to anyone who has experienced sexual abuse as a young footballer,

:47:00. > :47:03.the NSPCC has a free helpline which offers advice and support.

:47:04. > :47:11.A government commissioned review into social integration has

:47:12. > :47:17.concluded that public institutions have too often ignored or even

:47:18. > :47:21.condoned divisive and harmful religious practices for fear

:47:22. > :47:24.of being labelled racist or Islamophobic.

:47:25. > :47:27.In her 200 page report, Dame Louise Casey suggests,

:47:28. > :47:32.among other things, that immigrants intending to settle

:47:33. > :47:36.in Britain should take an "integration oath".

:47:37. > :47:41.I haven't criticised the Muslim community at all, actually.

:47:42. > :47:44.It's very good for me to be able to say this this morning.

:47:45. > :47:47.What I have a problem with is any religion,

:47:48. > :47:49.faith, creed, colour, anything that holds back people

:47:50. > :47:52.from enjoying the opportunities of life in Britain today.

:47:53. > :47:54.So of course I think that in certain communities and within the Muslim

:47:55. > :47:58.community there are more women that are less likely to speak English,

:47:59. > :48:01.more women who are more likely to be kept at home,

:48:02. > :48:06.who aren't enjoying the equality that I enjoy

:48:07. > :48:17.Frankly, if they were white and living in Surrey,

:48:18. > :48:26.There is a dimension here that because we want to respect people's

:48:27. > :48:30.choices around culture, I think that we in some ways have

:48:31. > :48:32.allowed some people to be left behind in Britain for now not just

:48:33. > :48:35.in the last five or ten years but previously,

:48:36. > :48:38.and I think it's time we did something about that.

:48:39. > :48:40.The problem with this issue is that people want to duck it

:48:41. > :48:43.and want to be in the very easy place of saying, "This isn't

:48:44. > :48:46.happening, it's not true, everything is fine."

:48:47. > :48:51.Last Thursday I spent the day in somewhere called

:48:52. > :48:55.I spent the morning in a part of Birmingham.

:48:56. > :48:59.The idea that those areas are doing fine in Britain,

:49:00. > :49:04.I met women who cannot leave their homes without their husband's

:49:05. > :49:06.permission and that isn't coming from a good place, to protect them.

:49:07. > :49:10.It's coming from a bad place to keep them subjugated.

:49:11. > :49:11.I didn't realise this when I set about this job 12 or 18 months ago.

:49:12. > :49:15.It doesn't give me any pleasure to say this.

:49:16. > :49:32.We have to emancipate people in this country who have lived here now

:49:33. > :49:34.for more than five or ten years, still can't speak English,

:49:35. > :49:37.We're keeping them behind not only in terms of poverty but in terms

:49:38. > :49:40.of equality and that's not what this country is about.

:49:41. > :49:46.Not talking about this, not talking about these difficult issues,

:49:47. > :49:50.all it does is give ammunition to the extreme far

:49:51. > :49:52.right and ammunition to the Islamic extremists.

:49:53. > :49:59.Those are the people that set out to divide us,

:50:00. > :50:03.those are the people that want to bring this country

:50:04. > :50:05.to its knees, and we must not allow those people to do it.

:50:06. > :50:18.We must not be afeared of being called racist

:50:19. > :50:21.We have to talk about these issues or else we will get nowhere.

:50:22. > :50:37.Joining me now is David Goodhart - Head of Demography, Immigration,

:50:38. > :50:39.and Integration for the think-tank Policy Exchange and Faeeza Vaid

:50:40. > :50:39.from the Muslim Women's network who joins me via webcam.

:50:40. > :50:47.Thank you very much for joining us. Louise Casey talking strongly about

:50:48. > :50:52.reaching out to emancipate people and saying that this must be done

:50:53. > :51:01.without fear of being called racist. How do you react to what she was

:51:02. > :51:11.saying? I would agree the issues should be raised and they have been

:51:12. > :51:18.raised previously and a lot of these issues are not new to the work that

:51:19. > :51:22.many activists have broadband doing up and don't the country over many

:51:23. > :51:27.years. I fully support that. I think we need to have really nuanced

:51:28. > :51:30.debate about this because the top line of this report are easy to sort

:51:31. > :51:35.of polarize, whereas really the productive conversations will only

:51:36. > :51:44.come when we look at the nuance and the complexities of each of these

:51:45. > :51:48.issues. David, do you agree with Louise Casey when she says this

:51:49. > :51:53.country is becoming more divided as it becomes more diverse? Well, I

:51:54. > :51:57.think she would say and I think I would agree with her, that we are

:51:58. > :52:02.becoming more mixed, more integrated in some areas and less in other

:52:03. > :52:08.areas. It is very much depends on which parts of the country you look

:52:09. > :52:16.at. I mean Louise's report focuses a lot on the worst areas, on the

:52:17. > :52:19.Milltowns, places where there is a dominant single minority and

:52:20. > :52:29.entrenched division that goes back 30 or 40 years, these are the most

:52:30. > :52:32.difficult areas. She focuses a lot on the Pakistani and Bangladeshi and

:52:33. > :52:36.Muslim minorities and I think she is right to do that, but yes, I mean,

:52:37. > :52:43.this is a report that is focussing on the problems. You could go to

:52:44. > :52:45.Solihull or Watford or places where the divisions, those sort of

:52:46. > :52:50.divisions don't exist and you're seeing much more sort of, you know,

:52:51. > :52:53.normal mixing across ethnic lines. I mean, there is an underlining issue

:52:54. > :53:01.here which is very difficult to overcome and on the one hand, we

:53:02. > :53:05.acknowledge the fact that people from different ethnic cultural

:53:06. > :53:10.backgrounds tend to feel more comfortable with people with the

:53:11. > :53:14.same backgrounds and tend to want to live in communities that are

:53:15. > :53:20.dominated by that group. On the other hand, we think a good society

:53:21. > :53:26.is one that has lots of movement across ethnic and social class and

:53:27. > :53:31.other lines. What do you think are the answers? Louise Casey throws out

:53:32. > :53:47.lots of suggestions, what do you think is the best way to tackle

:53:48. > :53:52.this? I think we need to make sure that we're not thinking about

:53:53. > :53:55.integration as a one-way process. It is not solely the responsibility of

:53:56. > :54:03.migrant communities, it has to be fully entrenched in wider society as

:54:04. > :54:10.well. Not only do we see segregated communities, we see segregated white

:54:11. > :54:14.communities and David mentioned a few now. So, for me, in terms of

:54:15. > :54:22.solutions, I think, yes, the acknowledging the problem exists is

:54:23. > :54:25.a first step and looking at to move forward and actually acknowledge the

:54:26. > :54:32.positive contributions that these communities are making and have made

:54:33. > :54:38.is really important because... But what would specifically address the

:54:39. > :54:42.situation for the women in particular that Louise Casey focuses

:54:43. > :54:44.on who don't work and who don't speak English?

:54:45. > :54:47.I think both of those arguments are really come Paralympics because we

:54:48. > :54:51.have a situation in this country where we have really skilled Muslim

:54:52. > :55:01.women who are ready to access the job market, but face multiple levels

:55:02. > :55:09.of discrimination until employment. That needs to be tackled as well as

:55:10. > :55:14.the issue of getting them to a place where their job needs to be tackle,

:55:15. > :55:18.which would involve English language, but in terms of the

:55:19. > :55:22.English language issue that has come up, I agree that being able to have

:55:23. > :55:27.a good command of the English language gives you best access to

:55:28. > :55:31.provision, it gives you best access to education and services and

:55:32. > :55:35.knowing your rights, but that's not to say those women who don't speak

:55:36. > :55:39.English, Muslim or not, are not integrated and that misnomer really

:55:40. > :55:45.needs to be challenged. I want to bring in David. What's important

:55:46. > :55:52.about the vie, it is so much more robust in its language and so much

:55:53. > :55:56.more unblinking in its analysis and it is very critical of the

:55:57. > :55:59.well-meaning reports that we produced over the years and one of

:56:00. > :56:01.the really important things is of course, she acknowledges there is

:56:02. > :56:04.discrimination, of course, she acknowledges that many of these

:56:05. > :56:10.communities in some of the poorest most left behind in the whole

:56:11. > :56:12.country, but she also focuses on the self inflicted wounds. She doesn't

:56:13. > :56:14.absolve the