:00:08. > :00:13.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.
:00:14. > :00:16.Could a lack of choice when it comes to contraception for women lead
:00:17. > :00:21.to a rise in unplanned pregnancies and abortions?
:00:22. > :00:29.I really do think we will see an increase in unwanted pregnancies. If
:00:30. > :00:30.the cuts carry on at the rate we are seeing now, we will see another
:00:31. > :00:36.escalation in teenage pregnancy. We'll bring you that story
:00:37. > :00:39.around 9:15 this morning. We're keen to hear your experiences,
:00:40. > :00:41.too, on the contraceptive Plus: outdated and held back
:00:42. > :00:45.by elderly white men - that's the view of the Football
:00:46. > :00:47.Association from five middle-aged We'll speak to two of them
:00:48. > :00:53.before ten this morning. And Madonna says the most
:00:54. > :01:08.controversial thing she's ever done Thank you for acknowledging my
:01:09. > :01:14.ability to continue my career for 34 years in the face of blatant
:01:15. > :01:25.misogyny, sexism, constant bullying and relentless abuse.
:01:26. > :01:28.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11.
:01:29. > :01:30.Throughout the programme we'll bring you the latest breaking news
:01:31. > :01:32.and developing stories - and as always really
:01:33. > :01:39.A little later in the programme we're talking
:01:40. > :01:45.programme Muslims Like Us which has been described a Big
:01:46. > :01:51.Critics say it could perpetuate negative sterorypes.
:01:52. > :01:57.Do get in touch and tell us what you think - use the hashtag
:01:58. > :02:00.#Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged at the standard
:02:01. > :02:08.Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government
:02:09. > :02:10.to reform the structure of the Football Association.
:02:11. > :02:12.They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled
:02:13. > :02:16.David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne
:02:17. > :02:17.and David Triesman called for legislation to be
:02:18. > :02:20.passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform".
:02:21. > :02:22.Their concerns are laid out in a letter to the Culture,
:02:23. > :02:26.Its chairman says legislation is needed to turn the FA
:02:27. > :02:34.The letter that was sent to the committee clearly demonstrates the
:02:35. > :02:38.frustration of former chairman of the FA that they did not have the
:02:39. > :02:41.power to get through the reform that they wanted and that football is
:02:42. > :02:45.dominated by a series of vested interest who wield too much power.
:02:46. > :02:48.I'm joined now live from Wembley by our sports
:02:49. > :02:59.Is this the catalyst for reform? We have been down this road more than
:03:00. > :03:04.once before, Victoria. There have been repeated calls in the past for
:03:05. > :03:10.the FA to reform, to modernise, to bring itself up to date, but they
:03:11. > :03:12.haven't materialised. This is a major intervention nevertheless,
:03:13. > :03:16.five senior figures from within the FA over the years, its first three
:03:17. > :03:22.independent chairman calling for that reform, for gov-mac to
:03:23. > :03:25.intervene, for legislation to be passed saying simply that there are
:03:26. > :03:31.too many all the white men within the organisation who are incapable
:03:32. > :03:35.of passing even the smallest of things, let alone the big structural
:03:36. > :03:42.reforms that they believe are needed to bring the organisation dragged
:03:43. > :03:45.into the 21st-century. So I think it will be a significant moment in this
:03:46. > :03:51.debate. Whether it is enough to bring about change, we will have to
:03:52. > :03:56.see, but there is certainly an appetite from the Culture, Media and
:03:57. > :04:00.Sport committee to try to do what it can to pressure and bring about that
:04:01. > :04:09.change, even through calling for a vote of no-confidence and by
:04:10. > :04:21.drafting legislation. And Tallaght dash-mac talk about the latest in
:04:22. > :04:30.terms of historical sexual abuse in football. We have heard that the
:04:31. > :04:34.director of football has been suspended by the FA, and in
:04:35. > :04:37.Scotland, John Swinney of the SNP has told the BBC he believes the
:04:38. > :04:42.Scottish football Association should conduct an independent, call for an
:04:43. > :04:49.independent inquiry into abuse within Scotland, and he says Police
:04:50. > :04:54.Scotland must take a lead on this. This issue of historical abuse
:04:55. > :04:57.within football ongoing, and we will have to see where the story goes
:04:58. > :05:04.next, whether claims take us next, but those enquiries starting within
:05:05. > :05:07.England, and there are calls in Scotland for more to be done there.
:05:08. > :05:10.Thank you, Richard Conway at Wembley.
:05:11. > :05:12.Joanna is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary
:05:13. > :05:16.Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences
:05:17. > :05:20.Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man
:05:21. > :05:22.from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion
:05:23. > :05:25.of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing
:05:26. > :05:29.European migrants living in the UK should be given a guarantee they can
:05:30. > :05:32.stay in the country after Brexit, according to a think tank
:05:33. > :05:35.It calls the Prime Minister's refusal to guarantee
:05:36. > :05:37.the status of Europeans in the UK "morally wrong".
:05:38. > :05:46.There are almost three million people from other parts of the EU
:05:47. > :05:49.living and working in the UK, and it is unclear what happens
:05:50. > :05:53.This report from the British Future think tank, which includes Leave
:05:54. > :05:56.and Remain supporters, says those living in the UK
:05:57. > :05:59.now should be offered permanent residency,
:06:00. > :06:03.but the triggering of Article 50 should be the cut-off date.
:06:04. > :06:05.The Government wants that to happen in March,
:06:06. > :06:11.so anyone arriving after should not expect to stay indefinitely.
:06:12. > :06:13.People's lives are important, and it sets the right
:06:14. > :06:23.tone for negotiations, because we would expect that EU
:06:24. > :06:26.countries to do the right thing by UK citizens,
:06:27. > :06:29.but if we make the first step, put in concrete proposals on how
:06:30. > :06:32.to make this happen, I think we will serve both UK
:06:33. > :06:37.A cut-off date may cause a surge in applications
:06:38. > :06:41.In order to cope, the report calls for a streamlining of the system,
:06:42. > :06:43.fast-tracking the two million who have been here for
:06:44. > :06:48.The Government says it wants to protect the status of EU
:06:49. > :06:50.nationals already living here, and the only circumstances
:06:51. > :06:54.in which that wouldn't be possible is if British citizens' rights
:06:55. > :07:00.in European member states were not protected in return.
:07:01. > :07:03.Those behind the report say using people as part
:07:04. > :07:06.of the negotiations is morally wrong.
:07:07. > :07:08.Later today, campaigners will deliver a letter to Downing Street,
:07:09. > :07:11.asking the Prime Minister the end the uncertainty for the millions
:07:12. > :07:14.of EU nationals who have already made their lives here in the UK.
:07:15. > :07:28.Officials in Nigeria say two young girls have been
:07:29. > :07:31.At least one other person died in the attack in a packed
:07:32. > :07:33.marketplace in Maiduguri which is situated in the north
:07:34. > :07:37.Authorities described the girls as being 7 or 8 years old.
:07:38. > :07:39.It's not known which group was behind the bombings.
:07:40. > :07:48.But Boko Haram militants have carried out similar attacks before.
:07:49. > :07:50.Syrian activists say government forces have retaken another key
:07:51. > :07:53.district of eastern Aleppo from the rebels, after a night
:07:54. > :07:56.Forces loyal to President Assad now control the overwhelming
:07:57. > :08:00.The advance comes less than 24 hours after rebels received a US-backed
:08:01. > :08:00.proposal to leave Aleppo along with civilians, under safe passage
:08:01. > :08:16.More than ten thousand civilians are reported to have fled Aleppo
:08:17. > :08:21.The Prime Minister is understood to be considering plans to allow
:08:22. > :08:23.councils in England and Wales to increase council tax to fund
:08:24. > :08:27.It follows warnings that the system could "topple at any moment" leading
:08:28. > :08:30.to pressure on the NHS if patients cannot be released from hospital.
:08:31. > :08:32.Local councils have suffered more than a 40% reduction
:08:33. > :08:36.Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms
:08:37. > :08:38.of contraception because of funding cuts, the Victoria Derbyshire
:08:39. > :08:42.Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services
:08:43. > :08:46.will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions".
:08:47. > :08:49.The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes
:08:50. > :08:51.after the Government announced public health cuts totalling more
:08:52. > :09:04.and we will have more on that for you at quarter past.
:09:05. > :09:06.Scientists have expressed concern about a surge in the levels
:09:07. > :09:08.of methane gas being released into the atmosphere.
:09:09. > :09:10.US researchers say emissions of methane -
:09:11. > :09:12.a more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide -
:09:13. > :09:14.are growing at their fastest rate in 20 years.
:09:15. > :09:17.The cause is thought to be agriculture, with rice paddies
:09:18. > :09:18.and cattle significant sources of methane.
:09:19. > :09:21.Scientists say efforts to tackle climate change will be undermined
:09:22. > :09:33.unless the emissions are brought under control.
:09:34. > :09:41.The Home Secretary is planning to make it become a criminal offence to
:09:42. > :09:47.become a member of the far right group. Members of the rail union
:09:48. > :09:51.Aslef are planning three days of strikes this week, a move the Home
:09:52. > :09:59.Secretary called totally unacceptable. The strikes will halt
:10:00. > :10:05.all Southern services, affecting millions of passengers every day.
:10:06. > :10:08.Santa Claus may have to look for a new animal
:10:09. > :10:10.to pull his sleigh in future, because apparently reindeer
:10:11. > :10:13.Scientists have found that wild reindeer living in the Arctic weigh
:10:14. > :10:18.Changes to winter and summer conditions are causing the animals
:10:19. > :10:21.to develop smaller body sizes, to die younger and to
:10:22. > :10:32.That is a summary of the latest news. I will have more at 9:30am.
:10:33. > :10:45.Thank you for your comments on cuts to contraceptive services. Mari on
:10:46. > :10:51.Facebook says, why are we surprised, even GPs do not do proper
:10:52. > :11:00.consultation any more. John says, why do we blame the NHS for our own
:11:01. > :11:04.sexual well-being? Money for the vulnerable or money for family
:11:05. > :11:08.planning? Do get in touch. Let's get some sport now. John, a nightmare
:11:09. > :11:18.for England's cricketers? They are looking for Christmas to
:11:19. > :11:25.come early, a little bit of trouble for them out there in India are the
:11:26. > :11:29.moment, they lost their fourth test by one innings and 36 runs. They
:11:30. > :11:33.needed the bottom order to show resistance, but when Jonny Bairstow
:11:34. > :11:36.went, it was looking unlikely, and they lost their remaining four
:11:37. > :11:40.wickets in just over half an hour. Ravi Ashwin Mandarin the damage of
:11:41. > :11:47.India, he took six wickets in this innings. This follows a man of the
:11:48. > :11:52.match performance from Virat Kohli with an incredible score of 235
:11:53. > :11:56.yesterday, so England are now 3-0 down in the series with one match to
:11:57. > :11:59.play, and I think they would rather fancy coming home now for an early
:12:00. > :12:06.Christmas! Let's talk about Chelsea. What is
:12:07. > :12:11.behind their superb run? You do wonder, because Antonio Conte
:12:12. > :12:14.is using the same players that Jose Mourinho had at his disposal when he
:12:15. > :12:19.was sacked last season. They just have their fighting spirit back
:12:20. > :12:22.again, that determination. He has managed to galvanise this group of
:12:23. > :12:27.players once again, and that man, Diego Costa, who scored the winning
:12:28. > :12:31.goal against West Brom yesterday, he is now the Premier League's leading
:12:32. > :12:35.goal-scorer, and they are on a nine match winning run, seeing them top
:12:36. > :12:40.the table with 37 points, so they are going very well. But that
:12:41. > :12:43.fighting spirit boiled over when they played Manchester City in the
:12:44. > :12:47.previous match. They have been charged by the FA for failure to
:12:48. > :12:49.control their players, but Antonio Conte has laughed off suggestions
:12:50. > :12:54.that they could face a points deduction despite the fact that they
:12:55. > :12:58.have failed to control players for the fifth time in 19 months. They
:12:59. > :13:01.will face punishment, but we wait to see what it will be.
:13:02. > :13:06.And the fallout for the Russian doping scandal goes on on?
:13:07. > :13:10.Yes, you wonder what is next. The second part of Richard McLaren's
:13:11. > :13:17.report came out on Friday, providing that extra detail into the
:13:18. > :13:20.state-sponsored doping programme. Now Latvia have come out to say that
:13:21. > :13:27.they will now boycott the world Skeleton bobsleigh champion that are
:13:28. > :13:31.due to take place in February. They have said they will only take part
:13:32. > :13:37.if it is moved. And Lizzy Yarnold who won gold in the skeleton bob out
:13:38. > :13:41.in Sochi in the winter Olympics says she may boycott the World
:13:42. > :13:45.Championships. So the sporting community taking a stand against
:13:46. > :13:47.Russia following those revelations about the state-sponsored doping
:13:48. > :13:52.programme, and you wonder what further punishment are to come. The
:13:53. > :13:56.IOC have said they will retest the samples of all Russian athletes from
:13:57. > :13:59.the London Olympics and the Sochi Games, but I think the sporting
:14:00. > :14:02.community wanting to see a greater stand taken, and some suggesting
:14:03. > :14:07.Russia should have the World Cup taken away. We wonder what is to
:14:08. > :14:10.come. More from John throughout the morning, thank you.
:14:11. > :14:13.This morning, could a lack of choice when it comes to contraception
:14:14. > :14:15.for women lead to a rise in unplanned pregnancies
:14:16. > :14:19.This programme has learnt that many GPs in England have stopped
:14:20. > :14:20.providing some forms of contraception
:14:21. > :14:23.Clinicians are warning it could mean "more unplanned
:14:24. > :14:27.Jean Mackenzie has this exclusive report
:14:28. > :14:31.which does contain some frank details.
:14:32. > :14:44.I experienced weight gain, complete loss of libido, I had thrush. I just
:14:45. > :14:50.felt like I wasn't me. I felt a little bit off of my centre. Sex is
:14:51. > :14:55.supposed to be something we enjoy, yet to get contraception is so hard,
:14:56. > :15:02.it is a barrier to enjoyment. These are your pills, we have mail
:15:03. > :15:09.condoms, and then this is a diaphragm. We also have the
:15:10. > :15:17.contraceptive injection, and this is a very flexible plastic ring that
:15:18. > :15:20.you can use. There are now 15 types of contraception, but no
:15:21. > :15:26.contraception is perfect and works for everyone. Every woman's
:15:27. > :15:32.experiences different, and what is important is choice, but how much is
:15:33. > :15:39.that choice being eroded? Clinics are having to close down, restrict
:15:40. > :15:43.their hours. Difficulty getting to GPs, contraception clinics. We are
:15:44. > :15:47.constrained with time and money. I do think we will see an increase in
:15:48. > :15:51.abortions and women having unwanted pregnancies. We have seen evidence
:15:52. > :15:54.that contraceptive services are being cut, and heard how women's
:15:55. > :16:02.choices being taken away. My experience with contraception has
:16:03. > :16:07.been a rollercoaster, but mainly at the bottom. It feels as though it's
:16:08. > :16:18.messed my body around and my hormones and my emotions. The worst
:16:19. > :16:28.contraception I had was the coil. It I just had no libido. I tried
:16:29. > :16:32.proguest ropeb pills. One led to heavy bleeding. One led to bleed,
:16:33. > :16:36.but really affected my mood. Suddenly I was crying in the shower
:16:37. > :16:41.every morning and I felt like I was going to burst into tears at any
:16:42. > :16:44.moment and I was so low. After a few months I came off that and
:16:45. > :16:50.straightaway I was fine again. I have made the decision not to be on
:16:51. > :16:55.any contraception. It means I'm relieved every month when I get my
:16:56. > :16:59.period. It is a risk and it makes me quite nervous, but I'm not willing
:17:00. > :17:03.to go back and go through those side-effects again.
:17:04. > :17:07.Most contraception in England is paid for out of Connell's public
:17:08. > :17:13.health budgets, by last year the Government cut by ?800 million over
:17:14. > :17:17.six years. Now research by a group of leading sexual health experts
:17:18. > :17:21.uncovered cuts to local contraceptive services, they say
:17:22. > :17:24.making it harder to get contraception will mean more
:17:25. > :17:36.unwanted pregnancies and more abortions. Tracey works with women
:17:37. > :17:39.seeking abortions. You speak to women every day whose contraception
:17:40. > :17:43.failed them. What are they saying to you? Women tell me every day that
:17:44. > :17:47.their choice has been taken away and they tell me about the difficulties
:17:48. > :17:50.in accessing services, difficulty getting into GPs, they are not
:17:51. > :17:55.allowed to have the same pill that they have had. Some women have been
:17:56. > :18:01.on the contraceptive patch and they are told their GPs don't do that
:18:02. > :18:06.anymore. Some women have been on the ring and they have been told they
:18:07. > :18:12.don't do that anymore and they are finding that contraceptive clinics
:18:13. > :18:16.have shutdown. Most women get their contraception
:18:17. > :18:19.from their GP and in recent years there has been a drive to offer
:18:20. > :18:22.women a range of options particularly what is called long
:18:23. > :18:27.acting contraception, things like the coil and the implant, but in
:18:28. > :18:33.some surgeries those options are being taken away. A third of
:18:34. > :18:45.councils are in the process of making these cuts to long acting
:18:46. > :18:51.contraception. This doctor's practise has stopped
:18:52. > :18:55.offering some of these methods. As a female doctor I feel terribly
:18:56. > :18:58.embarrassed that I can't offer my patients a local service in my
:18:59. > :19:02.practise. My concern is for my patients and I do feel that, you
:19:03. > :19:06.know, I feel bad when I have to say, I'm sorry, if you want the implant
:19:07. > :19:10.you would have to go elsewhere. Recently I had a woman who came in,
:19:11. > :19:14.she said right, I'm ready. She wanted the coil. We had a discussion
:19:15. > :19:19.about it and unfortunately, we couldn't arrange that for her here
:19:20. > :19:23.so I said you need to go to the family planning centre and I found
:19:24. > :19:27.out there was a like a six-week wait and you know, we just laughed and I
:19:28. > :19:33.said, you will probably get pregnant before you get your next coil at
:19:34. > :19:36.this rate. It is quite shocking. How much pressure are GPs under to
:19:37. > :19:41.prescribe women contraception based on how much they cost? I'd like to
:19:42. > :19:46.say we would always give a woman what she wants, but drug costs are
:19:47. > :19:51.an issue and they are at the back of most GP's mind when they are doing
:19:52. > :19:57.prescriptions. If someone was for example talking about the ring, you
:19:58. > :20:02.are thinking OK, that's about ?30 for three months compared to an
:20:03. > :20:07.ordinary pill which is ?1.80 for three months.
:20:08. > :20:13.We have seen a survey of more than 1,000 GPs. Only 2% said they offered
:20:14. > :20:17.all 15 methods of contraception. And more than half said there isn't
:20:18. > :20:23.enough time in an appointment to give a woman all the information she
:20:24. > :20:27.needs. What impact does it have on women if they are not given the
:20:28. > :20:32.contraception that they want? You're less likely to get a woman coming
:20:33. > :20:36.back for repeat prescriptions. That pill that's giving her maybe
:20:37. > :20:40.side-effects that she couldn't come back to you and talk about because
:20:41. > :20:44.she felt that was her only option, that's a challenge. And so you then
:20:45. > :20:48.you find women coming in, they are pregnant and you are saying, but you
:20:49. > :20:52.were given the pill, contraception is only as good as you use it and if
:20:53. > :20:57.that woman isn't comfortable with the choice that you've made for her
:20:58. > :21:01.rather than what she wanted then that really is a failure towards
:21:02. > :21:08.those patients. I went on the pill when I was about
:21:09. > :21:13.18 or 19. I found it uncomfortable to say the least. I just found I
:21:14. > :21:17.didn't feel myself. After experiencing those side-effects I
:21:18. > :21:21.decided that I didn't want to take hormonal contraception. My first
:21:22. > :21:29.stop was a diaphragm. I looked into every single option and I decided I
:21:30. > :21:32.didn't want the impact. The nurse's reaction wasn't positive. Her
:21:33. > :21:36.reaction was terrible. She told me I was going to get pregnant and she
:21:37. > :21:42.told me it wasn't effective and because I'm young I was super
:21:43. > :21:46.fertile. She laughed me out of the room and she reluctantly fitted, but
:21:47. > :21:49.because of her reaction when I was having trouble with it or when I
:21:50. > :21:54.wasn't quite sure, I didn't want to go back and I didn't want to go
:21:55. > :22:02.back. So I just stopped, I just gave up on it. I basically got pregnant
:22:03. > :22:07.and although that was, it was unplanned, it was definitely
:22:08. > :22:13.unplanned and definitely a lot, I was at uni and yeah, it was tough.
:22:14. > :22:16.As much as I don't want to say it is the system's fault that I got
:22:17. > :22:21.pregnant, there is blame there. There is definitely blame there. I
:22:22. > :22:25.felt like I had made an informed choice based on the information I
:22:26. > :22:29.had available to me, and when I walked into that clinic, I felt that
:22:30. > :22:33.I wasn't supported in that choice and that eventually led to my
:22:34. > :22:38.contraception failing me. As well as GPs women can go to sexual health
:22:39. > :22:42.clinics for their contraception, but a quarter of councils have closed
:22:43. > :22:47.clinics or are looking at cutting them back. I'm really lucky here
:22:48. > :22:51.because our access hasn't been restricted. In other areas, clinics
:22:52. > :22:55.are having to close down. They're having to restrict their hours.
:22:56. > :23:00.They're losing staff. Certainly outside London, women may have to
:23:01. > :23:04.travel enormous distances in order to access sexual health settings
:23:05. > :23:11.which may only be open a couple of days a week. What do you say happens
:23:12. > :23:17.to sexual health clinics? We are seeing an increase in women seeking
:23:18. > :23:20.long acting methods of contraception because they're having difficulty
:23:21. > :23:25.accessing that elsewhere. So these are the methods which would
:23:26. > :23:29.probably, the pills and emergency contraception are probably the
:23:30. > :23:35.things that most women would access from their GPs. Then on the other
:23:36. > :23:40.hand we've got what we call our long acting reversible methods. The
:23:41. > :23:47.coils, the implant and the injection and it is these methods that we're
:23:48. > :23:52.seeing in some areas being restricted because they're perceived
:23:53. > :23:57.to be expensive and GPs might not actually be able to prescribe them.
:23:58. > :24:02.These methods here, the patch and the ring, also very good and easy to
:24:03. > :24:06.prescribe from general practice, but we're seeing the funding for those
:24:07. > :24:11.being limited because they're thought to be quite expensive
:24:12. > :24:16.methods. We're actually really leaves us with a limited choice
:24:17. > :24:20.which many women might find the only methods they're able to get hold of.
:24:21. > :24:26.What happens when you restrict women's choice? You take away
:24:27. > :24:30.options from them? While all these new methods of contraception have
:24:31. > :24:37.been developed, which have been so much more reliable, and given women
:24:38. > :24:44.so much more reproductive control, if we remove those choices again, it
:24:45. > :24:51.is an enormous step back woords and the steps forwards we made to help
:24:52. > :24:55.women plan pregnancy at a time that's convenient for them will be
:24:56. > :25:01.undone. If the cuts carry on at the rate we're seeing now, we will see
:25:02. > :25:05.another escalation in teenage pregnancy, unplanned pregnancy and
:25:06. > :25:11.abortion rates. I know what it is like not to get
:25:12. > :25:16.the contraception you want. I went for my six to eight week check-up
:25:17. > :25:20.and discovered that he didn't provide contraception at all and was
:25:21. > :25:24.just kind of given a leaflet and shoved out the door. I was left
:25:25. > :25:29.feeling stranded and alone and quite angry. My next option was to go to a
:25:30. > :25:32.sexual health clinic, but I didn't get the chance to do that until five
:25:33. > :25:36.months after the birth of my daughter. Trying to find a clinic
:25:37. > :25:41.that worked for me was difficult. I had a C-section with my first child
:25:42. > :25:46.and I want able to lift anything heavier than the baby. I had to
:25:47. > :25:50.envisage a situation where I could get somewhere without having to lift
:25:51. > :25:53.the buggy and fit with the opening hours and also it was drop-in. So it
:25:54. > :25:59.was not knowing how long I was going to be there in a waiting room with a
:26:00. > :26:05.young baby. So to go without contraception for into that period
:26:06. > :26:11.meant it was more difficult in terms of me and my partner having the
:26:12. > :26:15.intimacy that we fleetingly got to have with a five-month-old baby. We
:26:16. > :26:22.take risks when choice is taken away from you. You don't like to say that
:26:23. > :26:26.because you're trying to be conscientious with your health. I
:26:27. > :26:29.have had sex and I have not had protected sex and I could have got
:26:30. > :26:35.pregnant. It shouldn't be that hard to get the pill. A third of women
:26:36. > :26:40.who need contraception live in an area now where services are
:26:41. > :26:44.restricted in some way. Most women try very hard to avoid a
:26:45. > :26:48.pregnancy. They use condoms or they use the pill, but there is nothing
:26:49. > :26:52.they can do about a six-week wait to get the implant fitted or a coil
:26:53. > :26:56.fitted and they feel quite helpless about it. How concerned are you
:26:57. > :27:00.about the direction that this is going in? I'm really concerned. We
:27:01. > :27:08.have spent years doing really good work. Contraception, sexual health,
:27:09. > :27:12.all that, now but now with all the cuts what we're looking at is an
:27:13. > :27:17.increase in unwanted pregnancies. Someone made an informed decision
:27:18. > :27:21.that out of all these options I want to choose this, it is the duty of
:27:22. > :27:24.the healthcare professional to support them in that choice, give
:27:25. > :27:27.them as much information as they can to get on with that and when that
:27:28. > :27:39.isn't happening, that's a failure. We did, of course, ask
:27:40. > :27:42.the Department of Health to talk to us today,
:27:43. > :27:44.but they said no. They did however tell
:27:45. > :27:46.us that they believe, "Local areas are best placed
:27:47. > :27:48.to decide how to provide the sexual health services
:27:49. > :27:50.their communities need." If you want to read more about that
:27:51. > :27:53.you can find an in depth article on the BBC News site
:27:54. > :27:56.and you can find the full film on our programme
:27:57. > :28:04.page bbc.co.uk/Victoria Debbie says, "Our NHS used to be
:28:05. > :28:10.envied by the world. I'm disgusted this Government has allowed it to
:28:11. > :28:15.fall apart and fail our people. Doctors, nurses, GPs being driven
:28:16. > :28:19.away, not recognising just how precious they are. We see necessary
:28:20. > :28:24.and valuable drugs being denied to women who need them. Now women are
:28:25. > :28:32.losing choice over something so basic as contraception. ." We will
:28:33. > :28:36.talk more about this in the second hour of the programme. Your
:28:37. > :28:39.experiences are very welcome. Get in touch in the usual ways.
:28:40. > :28:45.We talk to the makers of a new BBC Two programme, Muslims Like Us.
:28:46. > :28:47.It's being billed as Big Brother for Muslims,
:28:48. > :28:50.but critics say it could perpetuate negative stereotypes of Muslims.
:28:51. > :29:03.And after carpool karaoke, Madonna has picked up an award
:29:04. > :29:06.for Woman Of The Year and hit out at the sexism, misogyny
:29:07. > :29:14.and ageism she says she's received in her career.
:29:15. > :29:18.It's nearly half past nine. Time for a summary of the latest news with
:29:19. > :29:22.Joanna. Good morning. Five former Football Association
:29:23. > :29:24.chiefs have urged the Government to reform the structure
:29:25. > :29:26.of the Football Association. They criticised its upper ranks
:29:27. > :29:29.as being "out of balance" and filled David Bernstein, David Davies,
:29:30. > :29:33.Greg Dyke, Alex Horne and David Triesman called
:29:34. > :29:36.for legislation to be passed, blaming the FA's
:29:37. > :29:46."inability to reform". Six people have been arrested as
:29:47. > :29:55.part of an ongoing investigation under terrorism legislation.
:29:56. > :29:58.The prime minister is understood to be considering plans to allow
:29:59. > :30:01.councils in England and Wales to increase council tax to fund
:30:02. > :30:05.It follows warnings that the system could "topple at any moment" leading
:30:06. > :30:07.to pressure on the NHS if patients cannot be released from hospital.
:30:08. > :30:09.Local councils have suffered more than a 40% reduction
:30:10. > :30:13.Officials in Nigeria say two young girls have been
:30:14. > :30:17.At least one other person died in the attack in a packed
:30:18. > :30:19.marketplace in Maiduguri which is situated in the north
:30:20. > :30:24.Authorities described the girls as being 7 or 8 years old.
:30:25. > :30:26.It's not known which group was behind the bombings.
:30:27. > :30:31.But Boko Haram militants have carried out similar attacks before.
:30:32. > :30:33.Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms
:30:34. > :30:36.of contraception because of funding cuts, this programme has learned.
:30:37. > :30:38.Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services
:30:39. > :30:43.will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions".
:30:44. > :30:46.The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes
:30:47. > :30:52.after the Government announced public health cuts totalling more
:30:53. > :30:56.The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has hit out over planned strikes
:30:57. > :30:59.on Southern Rail that are set to cause travel chaos
:31:00. > :31:02.Members of rail union Aslef have planned three days
:31:03. > :31:05.of strikes this week - a move the Home Secretary called
:31:06. > :31:08.The strikes will halt all Southern's services,
:31:09. > :31:14.disrupting the 500,000 passengers who use the service every day.
:31:15. > :31:18.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
:31:19. > :31:22.John Watson's here now with this morning's sports headlines.
:31:23. > :31:31.England's struggles on their tour of India continues, as they lost by an
:31:32. > :31:34.innings and 36 runs. The bottom order needed to show resistance, but
:31:35. > :31:38.they lost their remaining four wickets in just over half an hour.
:31:39. > :31:44.James Anderson was the last to go, and with him when the series. They
:31:45. > :31:47.are 3-0 down with one Tester play. Chelsea have extended their winning
:31:48. > :31:52.run to nine matches, top of the table after a 1-0 win over West
:31:53. > :31:55.Brom. Yego Costa with the goal. He now has 12 for the season so far,
:31:56. > :32:00.more than any other player in the Premier League. The draw for the
:32:01. > :32:03.Champions League will be made at 11am with Arsenal, Manchester City
:32:04. > :32:07.and Leicester all waiting to see who they will face in the knockout
:32:08. > :32:12.stages, the final of which is to be played in Cardiff this year. And
:32:13. > :32:16.Latvia have said they may pull out of the Skeleton and bobsleigh World
:32:17. > :32:21.Championships next year unless Sochi are removed as hosts. It comes in
:32:22. > :32:24.response to the details of that Russian state-sponsored doping
:32:25. > :32:29.programme which came in the second part of Richard McLaren's report on
:32:30. > :32:32.Friday. That is all the sport for now, plenty more for you later on.
:32:33. > :32:40.Thank you very much. England's Football Association
:32:41. > :32:42.is outdated, held back by "elderly white men" and unable to counter
:32:43. > :32:45.the power of the Premier League, say five former executives
:32:46. > :32:47.of the governing body. David Bernstein, David Davies,
:32:48. > :32:49.Greg Dyke, Alex Horne and David Triesman say the FA has
:32:50. > :32:51.failed to self-reform, and they describe their
:32:52. > :32:53.decision-making structures We'll speak to two of those men
:32:54. > :33:01.who've written to MPs But, of course, today's criticism
:33:02. > :33:07.of the FA comes at a time when it's already under intense
:33:08. > :33:09.pressure over the way it's handled historic allegations
:33:10. > :33:11.of sex abuse in football - a story which has unfolded on this
:33:12. > :33:21.programme over the last few month: The impact it has had on my life is
:33:22. > :33:37.just catastrophic. I can't put into words what that has
:33:38. > :34:00.done to me. But I felt that I needed to do this
:34:01. > :34:04.so that other people will come out. You are through to the NSPCC advice
:34:05. > :34:07.line, you are speaking to Sheila. Are you calling with concerns for
:34:08. > :34:28.child? Both my parents have died, and that
:34:29. > :34:33.hurts me. Not telling them. Does it? Yes, but I don't know if it is a
:34:34. > :34:34.good thing that I didn't tell them, because they would have blamed
:34:35. > :34:49.themselves, so... What we have got to do is make sure
:34:50. > :34:54.those victims are supported, that this doesn't turn into an exercise
:34:55. > :35:00.of football trying to protect its own reputation.
:35:01. > :35:11.There is a lot of shame, a lot of guilt attached, a lot of confusion.
:35:12. > :35:14.And like I say, it was just impossible at that time to come out,
:35:15. > :35:28.just impossible. Everyone was kind of just naked and
:35:29. > :35:38.would get thrown on this bed, a very quick massage. It was uncomfortable.
:35:39. > :35:45.It's very, very wrong, for a start. I was tired because I had to be back
:35:46. > :35:52.for school, so just lay your head in my lap, and he would be stroking my
:35:53. > :35:54.head and that was when I started thinking that that was odd to me
:35:55. > :36:15.that this was happening. When you signed that confidentiality
:36:16. > :36:21.agreement, what were you thinking when they wanted you to keep quiet
:36:22. > :36:26.about the abuse you have suffered? With the document, I was basically
:36:27. > :36:29.pushed into a corner, and it was basically, there is the money, but
:36:30. > :36:44.to have the money, you have to sign this.
:36:45. > :36:53.Let's speak to David Bernstein who was FA chairman from 2011 to 2013,
:36:54. > :36:57.and Greg Dyke who replaced him from then until earlier this year. They
:36:58. > :37:05.have spoken to MPs calling for reform of the FA. Mr Bernstein, what
:37:06. > :37:08.you want to see changed? First of all, this is something I have been
:37:09. > :37:13.speaking about for three or four years, it is not something that has
:37:14. > :37:20.just arisen. Greg will speak for himself, but I know he agrees, we
:37:21. > :37:27.and David Triesman are all very independently of this same view that
:37:28. > :37:35.the FA basically is antiquated, out of date, and not sufficiently
:37:36. > :37:38.independent. What I want to see, the Parliamentary select committee have
:37:39. > :37:42.said the same thing, changes to the FA shareholder base, which I could
:37:43. > :37:47.explain, the FA Council, the FA board, the FA committees, and
:37:48. > :37:51.perhaps later on I would like to see the direction of travel for money
:37:52. > :37:54.that goes from the Premier League actually not to go directly from the
:37:55. > :38:01.Premier League to the rest of the game, but for -- from the Premier
:38:02. > :38:05.League to the FA to reform the FA, because I think it would remove part
:38:06. > :38:09.of the Premier League's soft power that it has and exercises well, and
:38:10. > :38:13.reinforce the power of the FA. We need an FA that can bring better
:38:14. > :38:20.balance back into the niche game. Why didn't you do this when you were
:38:21. > :38:24.chairman? As my predecessor or successor found out, it was
:38:25. > :38:31.basically impossible. I did what I could, I did bring in some reform, I
:38:32. > :38:35.did bring in some independent directors, including a woman, which
:38:36. > :38:38.was some achievement, but beyond that, it is impossible. The
:38:39. > :38:44.structure is resistant to change, and that has been made clear by the
:38:45. > :38:48.select committee's initial report, which remember goes back for five
:38:49. > :38:52.years, and from the letter they have just released. Greg Dyke, you left
:38:53. > :38:59.the FA earlier this year after trying to change things, and
:39:00. > :39:03.failing. All five of you would have fought against being subject to
:39:04. > :39:08.legislation when you lead the organisation. Is it not hypocritical
:39:09. > :39:12.for you to call the legislation now? I'm not sure I would have fought
:39:13. > :39:15.against legislation. What I said was, let's try and reform this place
:39:16. > :39:20.before the legislators have to do it, and in truth, I failed. I
:39:21. > :39:25.couldn't get them to agree, this arcane system wants to carry on as
:39:26. > :39:31.it is. And I think what this letter is really saying to the select
:39:32. > :39:36.committee and to government is, if you want change, you are going to
:39:37. > :39:39.have to do it, because if this organisation will not reform itself,
:39:40. > :39:44.it is in desperate need of reform, and it won't do it. So don't do any
:39:45. > :39:52.more reports saying we want this, we want that, and not doing anything
:39:53. > :39:56.about it. In my time of chairman, two ministers of sport said to me,
:39:57. > :40:01.if you don't change, we are going to change you, and I said, but nobody
:40:02. > :40:04.believes you. And unless you give it some teeth and start to do it, they
:40:05. > :40:12.don't believe you, so they will never reform. Right. Wider you say
:40:13. > :40:16.it is in desperate need of reform? I invite you to go along to a meeting
:40:17. > :40:23.of the FA Council, because it is like stepping back into the 1940s.
:40:24. > :40:30.It is 120 people, overwhelmingly white, overwhelmingly men... They
:40:31. > :40:35.are not representative of greater society, but that doesn't tell us...
:40:36. > :40:39.They fight to retain what is, because what is suits them, and in
:40:40. > :40:45.no organisation does that make sense. In any organisation you have
:40:46. > :40:52.to have a structure and a system which embraces change. The venue,
:40:53. > :40:58.and from the council to the board, and the board, as my predecessor
:40:59. > :41:03.just said, the board has a majority from either the national game or
:41:04. > :41:10.from the rational side, and they together join up to make sure that
:41:11. > :41:16.things that we wanted to do was stopped. And therefore it doesn't
:41:17. > :41:20.make sense. What we were saying to Damian Collins, and I hope what he
:41:21. > :41:26.will say when he comes on to your programme is that he will now take
:41:27. > :41:30.some action and press the Government, and then the FA might
:41:31. > :41:34.begin to reform itself, but at the moment, there is no chance. As you
:41:35. > :41:41.say, we will talk to Mr Collins Injera is to moment. I want to move
:41:42. > :41:46.on to historic sexual abuse, and also an FA government issue, the
:41:47. > :41:51.issue of our time. Mr Bernstein, you were chairman of Manchester City
:41:52. > :41:56.from 1984 to 2003, chairman of the FA from 2011 to 2013. Diddy issue of
:41:57. > :42:01.sexual abuse in football ever cross your desk while you were in either
:42:02. > :42:05.role? No, it didn't, it really, really didn't. And if it had done, I
:42:06. > :42:11.would have taken it up and dealt with it. I commend what you have
:42:12. > :42:15.done on this subject, it is awful, and this matter is under
:42:16. > :42:19.investigation now and I hope the investigations are strong enough and
:42:20. > :42:29.independent enough. Let me ask the same question to Mr Dyke... Sorry,
:42:30. > :42:34.but what I would say is that if an organisation is modern, cutting-edge
:42:35. > :42:38.and with a modern society, it is more likely to react to things like
:42:39. > :42:43.this positively and less likely to sweep them under the carpet. We will
:42:44. > :42:48.see what comes out of these investigations, but this and many
:42:49. > :42:51.other issues go back over decades, and I believe would have been
:42:52. > :42:55.treated more efficiently and in a more sympathetic way had the
:42:56. > :43:02.organisations themselves been modernised. Right. Mr Dyke, Mr
:43:03. > :43:07.Bernstein never heard anything about allegations of abuse. What about you
:43:08. > :43:09.when you are in the top job? I have to say in the three years I was
:43:10. > :43:18.chairman, it never came across my desk. What did come across my desk
:43:19. > :43:23.was, were our processes effective? Most of the complaints I have heard
:43:24. > :43:28.so far, most of the cases are historic cases, they are not modern
:43:29. > :43:33.cases, and I think the FA staff have run quite an effective system in
:43:34. > :43:36.recent years, but hopefully they will now set up an investigation
:43:37. > :43:45.that looks at how effective is the existing system, and could that be
:43:46. > :43:48.improved, because clearly that is the priority before we go back to
:43:49. > :43:52.historic cases. I take your point that some of the cases are
:43:53. > :43:58.historical. But I put it to you again, we now know nearly 100 clubs
:43:59. > :44:02.have been named over 80 alleged abusers. Is it really feasible, is
:44:03. > :44:08.this what you are telling the audience, is it really feasible that
:44:09. > :44:16.the people at the top knew nothing? Absolutely. I assure you that was
:44:17. > :44:20.the case. These questions need to be addressed to many others as well, to
:44:21. > :44:25.the Premier League, to the football league, and also to the PFA. The PFA
:44:26. > :44:28.is the players union, and you would have thought that would be the first
:44:29. > :44:32.port of call that players would go to if they were in trouble, and I
:44:33. > :44:36.would be fascinated to know how over 20 or 30 years, the PFA never seemed
:44:37. > :44:40.to know about these things or react to these things. That would be the
:44:41. > :44:44.first port of call, I would have thought. Mr Dyke? And the clubs,
:44:45. > :44:54.they are the employer. The clubs employ these people. As I say,
:44:55. > :44:58.certainly in my three years, this did not cross my desk. Unless it is
:44:59. > :45:01.referred up to you as chairman, you are not likely to discover it
:45:02. > :45:07.yourself unless somebody writes to you, and nobody wrote to me. Again,
:45:08. > :45:11.it may not have crossed your desk, Mr Dyke. In the time when you were
:45:12. > :45:15.chairman, Barnsley have confirmed they hired an Academy physio without
:45:16. > :45:25.doing all the criminal record checks on him. So in your time as boss,
:45:26. > :45:31.that was happening. We are not in charge of Barnsley. But you were the
:45:32. > :45:36.top man running the FA! What is interesting to me seems to be first
:45:37. > :45:41.of all you need an urgent checks, which is what the FA are doing, on
:45:42. > :45:46.the processes that exist now and how effective they are. On the second
:45:47. > :45:51.case, you then have to get into the historic cases. But I can only tell
:45:52. > :45:56.you what happened. As the chairman of the FA, I really wouldn't have
:45:57. > :45:58.known that Barnsley would have employed someone who hadn't passed
:45:59. > :46:13.the checks. I made a mistake, it was in Mr
:46:14. > :46:21.Bernstein's time. Those decisions are not referred up. Now, there
:46:22. > :46:26.should be a checking system. Let's not kid ourselves, whatever you do,
:46:27. > :46:32.you're going to avoid this happening on odd occasions. What you want to
:46:33. > :46:37.know, it is not a systematic process, it is not systematically
:46:38. > :46:43.happening as it seems to be in the 90s. Gagging clauses... Victoria,
:46:44. > :46:48.coming back to the, sorry, coming back to the core issue here which is
:46:49. > :46:54.the FA structural governance, you had an FA council, an FA board, an
:46:55. > :46:59.FA shareholder base, all modernised and geared and more receptive to
:47:00. > :47:02.these things, there is more likelihood the whole atmosphere
:47:03. > :47:07.within the Football Association and within football generally would be
:47:08. > :47:16.to take these things on board and maybe there would be less reluctance
:47:17. > :47:21.- Greg is right, he and I, I certainly and he, I'm sure never had
:47:22. > :47:23.these things put on our desks and we are both strong enough in
:47:24. > :47:30.personalities, if we had done, we would have reacted to them. This
:47:31. > :47:35.e-mail from Philippa, will nobody in FA management take responsibility.
:47:36. > :47:41."I do not believe these guests when they say they knew nothing about the
:47:42. > :47:46.abuse. It is not credible." I can't do much about that. The answer is,
:47:47. > :47:49.it was not, it did not, and I mean you also need to look at the
:47:50. > :47:54.position of the media and everybody else involved in this because
:47:55. > :48:00.actually it is Channel 4 did do a Dispatches back in the 1990s on this
:48:01. > :48:06.and no one else followed it up. I mean, it is only the FA, this is a
:48:07. > :48:13.societal thing of that time. What is essential to know is are the systems
:48:14. > :48:18.today effective? Gagging clauses which I think was in your time as FA
:48:19. > :48:22.chairman Mr Greg Dyke, did Chelsea break FA rules in your mind? I'm not
:48:23. > :48:28.there now so I don't know what happened. I haven't seen a report. I
:48:29. > :48:37.have only seen what's happened. What I do know is a lot of organisations
:48:38. > :48:41.when they are historically when they have been given these issues have
:48:42. > :48:45.not accepted liability, but paid compensation on the basis of a
:48:46. > :48:50.gagging clause and that doesn't only happen, the BBC does it which I know
:48:51. > :48:54.intimately. It doesn't mean to say you accept guilt, it means you
:48:55. > :49:01.accept that there is a case and you wish to end the case. David
:49:02. > :49:05.Bernstein, could you see a situation where a case involving sexual abuse
:49:06. > :49:09.could be subject to a gagging clause? I don't know the answer to
:49:10. > :49:16.that. It is something I can't answer. I don't know.
:49:17. > :49:23.Should clubs face some sart of sanction if they're found to use
:49:24. > :49:27.them? Neither David or I are in a position to know that. We haven't
:49:28. > :49:32.seen all the details, but in the end the clubs are the employer. Not the
:49:33. > :49:40.FA. And in the end, it is the employer who has the responsibility.
:49:41. > :49:47.Could we go back to the wider issue? What I think is, that there is no
:49:48. > :49:51.effective regulation in football. And I think you are only going to
:49:52. > :49:57.get effective regulation if either the FA becomes more independent or
:49:58. > :50:03.you have an outside regulator. OK. If you look at the Premier League,
:50:04. > :50:07.the Premier League is 20 clubs, 20, what are now big businesses, coming
:50:08. > :50:11.together to sell their rights together in a cartel. If you did
:50:12. > :50:15.that in any other industry people would laugh at us. It is actually
:50:16. > :50:18.quite effective in football, but you can only do it therefore if you have
:50:19. > :50:23.an effective regulator as well because it is a cartel. OK, well I'm
:50:24. > :50:29.sure the Premier League would reject that.
:50:30. > :50:33.David yen Collins you received the letter. You're chair of the culture,
:50:34. > :50:36.media, and sport Select Committee. The Premier League accused by Greg
:50:37. > :50:43.Dyke there of operating like a cartel. What's your view? Well, the
:50:44. > :50:46.former chairmen are right that the Premier League are incredibly
:50:47. > :50:49.powerful and works strongly for the interest of its member clubs, but
:50:50. > :50:53.the issue with English football as Greg Dyke said, there is no
:50:54. > :50:58.effective regulator for English football. The FA doesn't have the
:50:59. > :51:02.power to say there is an issue we're going to resolve, it doesn't matter
:51:03. > :51:04.if it is a Premier League issue or conference issue, we are the
:51:05. > :51:08.governing body and we have the final say. Would you back an external
:51:09. > :51:11.regulator? The FA should be the regulator for English football. It
:51:12. > :51:15.should be the governing body and have the powers and the independence
:51:16. > :51:20.to regulate the whole of the game. But it doesn't have that. So would
:51:21. > :51:24.you back an external force or not? What I'm proposing in response to
:51:25. > :51:30.the letter we've received from David Bernstein and Greg Dyke and the
:51:31. > :51:33.other former officials, we restrict ture the Football Association using
:51:34. > :51:36.legislation in line of the recommendations made by the Select
:51:37. > :51:41.Committee report. It would give the Chief Executive and the chairman of
:51:42. > :51:50.the fae along with independent non-executive directors a majority
:51:51. > :51:53.on the board so they could outvote the Premier League representatives
:51:54. > :51:58.and behave like a governing body. You talk about legislation? What I
:51:59. > :52:01.have asked the clerk ins Parliament is produce a Draft Bill which we'll
:52:02. > :52:05.publish in the New Year and it is possible to create a Bill which can
:52:06. > :52:07.legislate to change the rules of a private organisation like the
:52:08. > :52:11.Football Association. So Parliament could pass a Bill that would
:52:12. > :52:15.externally reform the constitution and the FA and we would leave it to
:52:16. > :52:19.the FA to use the new powers to be an effective regulator for the game.
:52:20. > :52:23.Is the FA a stagnant old boys club? Well, yes. It doesn't represent the
:52:24. > :52:26.modern game. It doesn't represent the people that play the game today
:52:27. > :52:29.and it is not effective at dealing with the challenges that face
:52:30. > :52:34.football today. And I think that's why it needs to be totally reformed
:52:35. > :52:38.and I think legislation is the only way it can be done. What is really
:52:39. > :52:42.significant about the letter we received, David Bernstein and Greg
:52:43. > :52:44.Dyke and David Davis, they have all appeared in front of the Select
:52:45. > :52:49.Committee and they have been asked about reform and done their best to
:52:50. > :52:52.achieve reform. Here we have senior figures from the football family
:52:53. > :52:55.saying it cannot be done without legislation to drive through the
:52:56. > :53:00.change. When you spock to us a couple of weeks ago, you told us
:53:01. > :53:03.that you were concerned that the FA's internal inquiry into
:53:04. > :53:07.allegations of sexual abuse in football was being run by a QC who
:53:08. > :53:10.had worked with the FA previously. And you worried about her
:53:11. > :53:13.independence. You also worried about whether they were going to publish
:53:14. > :53:16.the findings of that I review. They have changed the QC and they say
:53:17. > :53:21.they are committed to publishing it. Are you happy? Yes, I am. I think
:53:22. > :53:25.the scope of the inquiry, it is better set-up and it is broader and
:53:26. > :53:27.it has got the power to go into the clubs and investigate what went
:53:28. > :53:31.wrong in the clubs which is conclusion. What I said to the FA,
:53:32. > :53:35.the only grounds for not publishing anything within the report should be
:53:36. > :53:38.the relegation of the police that doing so may compromise an open
:53:39. > :53:43.investigation, but the FA shouldn't have the power to block any of it on
:53:44. > :53:48.policy grounds or football maybe embarrassed. This has to be
:53:49. > :53:52.completely transparent. By having a properly published report and a
:53:53. > :54:04.proper debate, we can check it a make sure the current safeguarding
:54:05. > :54:08.procedures are in place. Should the Scottish FA launch their inquiry? I
:54:09. > :54:11.think so. I think all national governing bodies of sport should
:54:12. > :54:16.behaving a serious look at their own sport because I don't believe this
:54:17. > :54:19.is purely a football problem. It probably affected other sports too.
:54:20. > :54:23.Football is a popular game that it is likely to involve more cases, but
:54:24. > :54:26.there are safeguarding issues elsewhere. I have not seen any
:54:27. > :54:31.evidence, but all sports should take this seriously. Thank you very much.
:54:32. > :54:33.Damien Collins head of the culture rks maod, media and sport Select
:54:34. > :54:40.Committee. Your views are welcome. Get in
:54:41. > :54:44.touch. Madonna picks up an award
:54:45. > :54:47.for Woman of the Year and hits out at the sexism,
:54:48. > :54:50.misogyny and ageism she says she's These are the ?995 trousers
:54:51. > :55:00.at the centre of a row This woman, the former
:55:01. > :55:03.Education Secretary Nicky Morgan, criticised those leather trousers
:55:04. > :55:06.saying they'd been "noticed and discussed" in local Tory circles
:55:07. > :55:12.and that she didn't think she'd ever spent that much on anything apart
:55:13. > :55:17.from her wedding dress. As a result of her comments on those
:55:18. > :55:22.trousers, Nicky Morgan got dumped via text from a meeting
:55:23. > :55:27.with Theresa May at Downing Street. And now it's being claimed that
:55:28. > :55:30.after all that criticism - Nicky Morgan owns a handbag
:55:31. > :55:35.worth ?950 anyway. Our political correspondent
:55:36. > :55:55.Chris Mason is here. Right, where do you want to start
:55:56. > :56:01.with this? Let's have a look at trouser texts that you have been
:56:02. > :56:03.referring to. This refers to Amanda Wakeley designed bitter chocolate
:56:04. > :56:06.leather trousers. They are the trousers that Theresa May was
:56:07. > :56:10.photographed in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago. Prompted this
:56:11. > :56:15.row over text message between Downing Street, Nicky Morgan, the
:56:16. > :56:19.former Education Secretary and Alistair Birt a former minister was
:56:20. > :56:25.involved in this. Here are the trouser texts. Let's look at them.
:56:26. > :56:30.Alistair Birt and Nicky Morgan were at a meeting in Downing Street, but
:56:31. > :56:34.at po thant Fiona Hill the joint Chief-of-Staff said to Alistair
:56:35. > :56:40.Birt, "Don't bring that woman to Number Ten again." This after Nicky
:56:41. > :56:44.Morgan had passed judgement on the foft those leather trousers saying
:56:45. > :56:47.they did not pass the Loughborough market test! Loughborough the town
:56:48. > :56:54.in the East Midlands that Nicky Morgan represents in Parliament. She
:56:55. > :56:59.said she couldn't go out into Loughborough market wearing those
:57:00. > :57:06.trousers people would think it was ridiculous she spent ?995 on the
:57:07. > :57:09.trousers. If you pass comment on somebody's expensive clothes
:57:10. > :57:17.somebody will find stuff that you bought that might be expensive.
:57:18. > :57:26.Enter Nicky Morgan's brown leather Bays Water bag from a brand called
:57:27. > :57:29.Mulberry! It cost yes, ?950, ?45 cheaper than the trousers! But still
:57:30. > :57:37.about the same cost that I would have spent on a second-hand car!
:57:38. > :57:43.I love the way you say bitter chocolate and the rest of us would
:57:44. > :57:49.say brown! OK. Where are we in this row between Number Ten and Theresa
:57:50. > :57:53.May's people, who protect her and surround her and the former
:57:54. > :58:02.Education Secretary? I would like to tell you that this is a row that
:58:03. > :58:06.groans with national input! Firstly, Nicky Morgan and Theresa
:58:07. > :58:10.May, in case you hadn't guessed it, don't get on! They didn't really get
:58:11. > :58:13.on when they were around the Cabinet table and since Nicky Morgan was
:58:14. > :58:18.fired by Theresa May a couple of months ago, there have been plenty
:58:19. > :58:22.of barbs coming from Nicky Morgan in the direction of Downing Street and
:58:23. > :58:27.she said she is somebody who is willing to continue doing that and
:58:28. > :58:31.put her head above the para pet. Some have criticised and regularly
:58:32. > :58:37.criticised a sexist stint as they see it in the media to bang on and
:58:38. > :58:40.on about bang Theresa May's clothes, but this was a photograph she sat
:58:41. > :58:46.down to have taken by the Sunday Times. She wasn't snapped in her
:58:47. > :58:50.constituency going to church by someone on a camera phone hiding in
:58:51. > :58:56.the bushes! This was something prearranged. It is not just female
:58:57. > :59:00.Prime Ministers who of pictures taken of them in clothing that
:59:01. > :59:08.causes a remark. This is the former Prime Minister, also in the same
:59:09. > :59:17.newspaper the Daily Mail wearing jazzy trunks. James our cameraman
:59:18. > :59:24.has a pair of them. They feature a picture of a 1969 swimming pool at
:59:25. > :59:32.the exclusive hotel Eden Rock in a chic French Mediterranean resort. So
:59:33. > :59:38.it is not posh leather trousers or indeed posh Mulberry or whatever it
:59:39. > :59:43.is bags, swimming trunks can feature too and why not?
:59:44. > :59:50.Anyway, there is my pitch to be fashion editor. It is Mulberry, you
:59:51. > :59:54.know that! Sales of those trunks are they going to go up or down as a
:59:55. > :59:59.result of that photo of Mr Cameron? I wonder if those trousers will end
:00:00. > :00:03.up in a charity shop in Maidenhead in the Prime Minister's
:00:04. > :00:13.constituency. They may only be ?825 now!
:00:14. > :00:17.Let's get the latest weather update with Carol.
:00:18. > :00:24.We have had fog and frost. We've had a fair bit of rain around and there
:00:25. > :00:29.is more rain to come too. So to show you a picture of what we've had, one
:00:30. > :00:33.of our Weather Watchers sent this in from Lincolnshire. There is fog
:00:34. > :00:36.across parts of Eastern England. If you're travelling on the M1 or A1
:00:37. > :00:58.bear that in mind. The fog will linger in the hills and
:00:59. > :01:01.it will be fairly cloudy. We've got another weather front coming our way
:01:02. > :01:05.aacross Western Scotland and Northern Ireland. So after a bright
:01:06. > :01:09.start, the rain moves in. Some of it will be heavy through the day as it
:01:10. > :01:12.will across the islands and Highlands of Scotland too, but
:01:13. > :01:15.north-east Scotland seeing something brighter, not just now, but into the
:01:16. > :01:19.afternoon. As we come south, there will be more cloud around and
:01:20. > :01:22.splashes of rain. After a bright start in north-west England, the
:01:23. > :01:26.rain moves up from the south-west towards the north-east. Not
:01:27. > :01:30.particularly heavy, but it will be surrounded by murky conditions. Same
:01:31. > :01:34.too across East Anglia, Kent and heading over towards the Home
:01:35. > :01:38.Counties. Drifting further west, as the rain clears, it will brighten up
:01:39. > :01:42.nicely across parts of Cornwall and Devon. We could see sunshine through
:01:43. > :01:46.the afternoon, but for Wales, we will have the dank conditions, the
:01:47. > :01:49.hill fog and also the drizzly bits and pieces moving north-east wards.
:01:50. > :01:53.Pembrokeshire could see something brighter later. The rain clears
:01:54. > :01:56.away, but the rain coming in from the west will be heavy as it crosses
:01:57. > :02:01.parts of southern England and Wales. Tonight too, we could see patchy fog
:02:02. > :02:07.reform, but not as widespread as or as dense as we had this morning.
:02:08. > :02:10.Tomorrow the rain continues to journey eastwards clearing off into
:02:11. > :02:12.the North Sea, but there will be a curl behind it across southern
:02:13. > :02:16.England and Wales and that will produce spots of rain. Further
:02:17. > :02:20.north, well, we are looking at brighter skies. Some fog around, it
:02:21. > :02:24.could lift into low cloud. It will be swept away as we head on into
:02:25. > :02:29.Wednesday as another weather front comes our way. That's going to brood
:02:30. > :02:32.deuce more rain and just ahead of, there really isn't much in the way
:02:33. > :02:36.of isobars and what we have are well spaced so that means it won't be
:02:37. > :02:41.windy, but around the weather front it will be so. . So we have got rain
:02:42. > :02:45.spreading in across Northern Ireland and Western Scotland, gusty winds.
:02:46. > :02:51.Ahead of it for England and Wales and Eastern Scotland, a bright day,
:02:52. > :02:55.with sunshine, temperatures not bad for this stage in December. Highs of
:02:56. > :03:00.nine or ten to 13 Celsius as we sweep down towards the south.
:03:01. > :03:08.I'm Victoria Derbyshire, welcome to the programme.
:03:09. > :03:10.This morning: Claims that abortion and unplanned pregnancies could rise
:03:11. > :03:13.because of cuts in funding to the contraception GPs offer.
:03:14. > :03:15.We've spent years doing really good work -
:03:16. > :03:17.contraception, sexual health, all that.
:03:18. > :03:19.But now, with all the cuts, what we're looking at now is
:03:20. > :03:24.We're keen to hear your views on the contraceptive
:03:25. > :03:29.Also on the programme: Two former heads of the FA tell us why it
:03:30. > :03:41.What this letter is really saying to the select committee and to
:03:42. > :03:45.Government is, if you want to change, you are going to have to do
:03:46. > :03:48.it, because this organisation will not reform itself, it is in
:03:49. > :03:54.desperate need of reform and it will not do it. The bosses also told us
:03:55. > :03:58.that the issue of abuse in football never reach their desk when they
:03:59. > :04:03.were in charge of the organisation. No, it didn't, it really didn't, and
:04:04. > :04:07.I must tell you, if it had done, I would have taken it up and dealt
:04:08. > :04:13.with it. Do let us know your views about what they told us this
:04:14. > :04:16.morning. You can e-mail or get in touch on Twitter.
:04:17. > :04:19.Plus BBC Two's new TV programme Muslims Like Us is being billed
:04:20. > :04:22.as Big Brother for Muslims - but will it end up perpetuating
:04:23. > :04:26.I'm your average, normal British Muslim person.
:04:27. > :04:31.We're the majority, but our voice is the least heard.
:04:32. > :04:40.We'll talk to the makers of the show.
:04:41. > :04:46.Here's Joanna in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.
:04:47. > :04:51.Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government
:04:52. > :04:53.to reform the structure of the Football Association.
:04:54. > :04:56.They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled
:04:57. > :04:59.David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne
:05:00. > :05:01.and David Triesman called for legislation to be
:05:02. > :05:05.passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform".
:05:06. > :05:07.Their concerns were set out in a letter to the Culture,
:05:08. > :05:11.Its chairman says legislation is needed to turn the FA
:05:12. > :05:17.The letter that was sent to the committee clearly
:05:18. > :05:21.demonstrates the frustration of the former chairman of the FA
:05:22. > :05:24.that they did not have the power to get through the full
:05:25. > :05:27.that they wanted power and football is dominated by a series of vested
:05:28. > :05:33.Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences
:05:34. > :05:37.Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man
:05:38. > :05:40.from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion
:05:41. > :05:43.of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing
:05:44. > :05:52.Syrian activists say government forces have retaken another key
:05:53. > :05:54.district of eastern Aleppo from the rebels, after a night
:05:55. > :05:58.Forces loyal to President Assad now control the overwhelming
:05:59. > :06:02.The advance comes less than 24 hours after rebels received a US-backed
:06:03. > :06:05.proposal to leave Aleppo along with civilians, under safe passage
:06:06. > :06:09.More than ten thousand civilians are reported to have fled Aleppo
:06:10. > :06:15.Many GPs in England have stopped providing some forms
:06:16. > :06:17.of contraception because of funding cuts, this programme has learned.
:06:18. > :06:19.Some clinicians have said cuts to contraceptive services
:06:20. > :06:21.will mean "more unplanned pregnancies and abortions".
:06:22. > :06:23.The Advisory Group on Contraception's research comes
:06:24. > :06:25.after the government announced public health cuts totalling more
:06:26. > :06:40.The Home Secretary will lay an order in parliament to proscribe the right
:06:41. > :06:42.wing group National Action, later this morning, to be debated
:06:43. > :06:46.It would mean it would become a criminal offence to be a member
:06:47. > :06:48.or to encourage support for the group.
:06:49. > :06:50.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.
:06:51. > :06:56.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -
:06:57. > :06:59.use the hashtag #Victorialive and if you text, you will be charged
:07:00. > :07:08.E-mail from Janet on GPs cutting back injuries is on contraception
:07:09. > :07:13.methods. Could I said jest to the young woman who holds the GB
:07:14. > :07:18.responsible for the fact that she fell pregnant, she herself made a
:07:19. > :07:22.choice, and there is another choice, not to be sexually active. Thank you
:07:23. > :07:26.for this important issue and the other important issues you raise.
:07:27. > :07:29.John Watson's here again now with more sport.
:07:30. > :07:35.Not a great morning for Alastair Cook and his team, they have lost
:07:36. > :07:38.the fourth match in Mumbai by one innings and 36 runs. The lower order
:07:39. > :07:42.needed to show some resistance, but lost their remaining four wickets in
:07:43. > :07:48.just over half an hour. James Anderson the last ago, and with when
:07:49. > :07:51.the series. There are 3-0 down with one match left to play. The
:07:52. > :07:56.performance has prodded some strong words from former captain Michael
:07:57. > :07:59.Vaughan. The question would be to everyone who has been watching, have
:08:00. > :08:03.they got better? Have they improved as a side, and I don't think they
:08:04. > :08:08.have, and that is a real worry. The fact that they got 400 and could
:08:09. > :08:14.still lose by an innings, last time they lost by eight wickets, the time
:08:15. > :08:21.before 246 runs. When they lose, they get a hammering. Chelsea
:08:22. > :08:26.extended their winning run to nine matches, Diego Costa with his 12th
:08:27. > :08:29.goal of the season earning his side a 1-0 win over West Brom yesterday.
:08:30. > :08:34.Manager Antonio Conte transforming the fortunes of the former
:08:35. > :08:39.champions. It is brilliant in this moment,
:08:40. > :08:43.because we won nine games in a row, and it is fantastic because this
:08:44. > :08:48.league is very tough. A league with great difficulty, and to win nine
:08:49. > :08:53.games in a row, it means that we are working very well. Liverpool are now
:08:54. > :09:02.six points behind the league leaders after dropping points at home.
:09:03. > :09:07.Liverpool managed to pull level when Origi equalised in the second half.
:09:08. > :09:11.2-2 it finished, meaning West Ham are now out of the legation zone.
:09:12. > :09:14.Jose Mourinho got the win he feels his side's recent performances
:09:15. > :09:22.deserve as Manchester United beat Tottenham 1-0. Mkhitaryan with the
:09:23. > :09:27.only goal of the game. United States sixth, and fifth placed Spurs are
:09:28. > :09:29.now ten points off the top. Arsenal, Leicester and Manchester
:09:30. > :09:33.city are waiting to learn who they will face the knockout stages of the
:09:34. > :09:36.Champions League, the draw is being made in around an hour in
:09:37. > :09:41.Switzerland. If any of the three can get there, they won't have to travel
:09:42. > :09:46.far, because the final will be played in Cardiff's principality
:09:47. > :09:49.Stadium in May. And Latvia have said they may boycott the bobsleigh and
:09:50. > :09:54.Skeleton World Championships in Sochi next year unless the event is
:09:55. > :09:57.moved. It comes in response to the second part of the McLaren report
:09:58. > :10:02.which outlined the scale of state-sponsored doping in Russia.
:10:03. > :10:06.Lizzy Yarnold, who won skeleton gold in Sochi at the winter Olympic Saint
:10:07. > :10:12.2014, said she, too, may boycott the games unless a different city is
:10:13. > :10:16.chosen. That is all your sportswear now, more at around half past.
:10:17. > :10:21.Cheers, John. Welcome to the programme.
:10:22. > :10:27.In the last year, we have reported what is happening in Aleppo
:10:28. > :10:28.regularly in this programme. It has been described as a humanitarian
:10:29. > :10:33.disaster. Now Syrian opposition activists say
:10:34. > :10:35.government forces have retaken a key district in the east of Aleppo
:10:36. > :10:41.from rebel fighters overnight. There are claims that rebel forces
:10:42. > :10:43.are using civillians as "human shields", thousands have
:10:44. > :10:46.fled their homes in recent days, those left behind face starvation
:10:47. > :10:56.and a lack of medical People living in East Aleppo
:10:57. > :11:01.are caught in a war between two broad groups: On one
:11:02. > :11:04.side are the Syrian government forces and their allies -
:11:05. > :11:06.which are mainly the Iranians and the Russians, and on the other
:11:07. > :11:08.are the 900 or so jihadis from the al Nusra group -
:11:09. > :11:11.which used to be part of Al Qaeda. It's incredibly difficult to speak
:11:12. > :11:14.to residents inside Aleppo - but a couple of weeks ago we managed
:11:15. > :11:24.that - and this is their story I'm an English teacher
:11:25. > :11:35.at Aleppo high schools. I've been living here for about six
:11:36. > :11:53.years, since the beginning Actually, no one can believe
:11:54. > :11:57.the situation inside Aleppo. No one can imagine what
:11:58. > :11:59.happens inside Aleppo. I'm married with three children,
:12:00. > :12:13.two sons and a daughter. The aircraft just shell and shell
:12:14. > :12:25.and shell, without stopping. And the artillery field
:12:26. > :12:30.shell at the same place. Er, in Aleppo right now, 300,000
:12:31. > :12:33.living in a complete demolition... Every day, dozens
:12:34. > :12:49.of people are dying. I might die just now
:12:50. > :13:00.whilst speaking to you. People just sleep in the darkness
:13:01. > :13:12.and wake up at the voice of the aircraft, at the voice of
:13:13. > :13:19.the bomb, at the voice of missiles. Bombing and targeting
:13:20. > :13:22.people, civilians. My house was targeted
:13:23. > :13:31.and collapsed to the ground. People pulled out
:13:32. > :13:40.from under the rubble. That was a miracle that
:13:41. > :13:42.all of us survived. Sometimes we find people want a car,
:13:43. > :13:45.want something to take dead body, dead sons, dead father,
:13:46. > :13:48.in order to be buried. Even vehicles are not available
:13:49. > :14:06.to bury their sons and their father. Our work seems to be
:14:07. > :14:11.like a drop in the ocean. What can you do for those
:14:12. > :14:17.people who starve? What can you do for those people
:14:18. > :14:20.who are under the rubble? Hundreds and hundreds
:14:21. > :14:23.under the rubble. Up to now there are 30
:14:24. > :14:25.people under the rubble that we couldn't do
:14:26. > :14:33.for them anything. People who are being targeted
:14:34. > :14:35.or being wounded, we don't know where to get them,
:14:36. > :14:37.where to bring them. Just even the small medical
:14:38. > :14:40.centres were completely The hospital right now is the most
:14:41. > :14:51.dangerous place ever in Aleppo. After all the hospitals have been
:14:52. > :15:05.destroyed and crushed. Civilians start to move in large
:15:06. > :15:07.numbers towards the Kurdish area They are quite afraid
:15:08. > :15:15.of more advances towards People who went to the regime
:15:16. > :15:22.areas were all arrested. They arrested all men
:15:23. > :15:39.between 18 and 42. They were taken to the intelligence
:15:40. > :15:46.stations and are still trapped there, and they are going to be
:15:47. > :15:50.investigated, one by one. Some families stay in their homes, and
:15:51. > :15:54.they find themselves just in the hands of the regime. A lot of people
:15:55. > :15:58.would prefer to defend their own land, and they are ready to
:15:59. > :16:05.sacrifice their lives for their land, because they already know that
:16:06. > :16:06.when the regime are getting closer to their areas, they will execute a
:16:07. > :16:20.lot of people. The Russian government is seeing
:16:21. > :16:29.some sort of political gap in America. We have seen some movement
:16:30. > :16:33.between Barack Obama and the Trump, and there is some sort of political
:16:34. > :16:41.space, so to speak, so they are doing that without any international
:16:42. > :16:44.questioning or even in the midst of international silence, nobody is
:16:45. > :16:55.doing anything towards what is happening in Aleppo. People believe
:16:56. > :17:10.that the question of Aleppo and the civilians, and shelling the
:17:11. > :17:21.civilians, it is not only a scheme that is written organised, not only
:17:22. > :17:26.Tehran or Moscow, but also Western countries. The UN can do a lot for
:17:27. > :17:31.the people here, the innocent people. They can make pressure on
:17:32. > :17:33.Russia to stop the continual shelling and make a way out for
:17:34. > :17:47.people here to go out. This is a shame of the world because
:17:48. > :17:51.it is 2016 and people have been through this and suffered through
:17:52. > :17:59.this and starving to death. That's the situation in Aleppo.
:18:00. > :18:02.Separatley so-called Islamic State group fighters have re-entered
:18:03. > :18:04.the ancient city of Palmyra, nine months after losing
:18:05. > :18:18.This footage shows some of the devastating impact on the city.
:18:19. > :18:25.Reporters believe IS appears to have taken advantage of the Government's
:18:26. > :18:39.focus on Aleppo. We are going to try and talk now
:18:40. > :18:44.live to a resident of Aleppo. An English teacher and Dr David
:18:45. > :18:49.Knott a surgeon who worked in Aleppo and speaks to people there every
:18:50. > :18:53.single day and professor of international relations from the
:18:54. > :18:56.London School of Economics. Abdul, thank you very much for
:18:57. > :19:05.talking to our British audience. What is it like in Aleppo right now?
:19:06. > :19:11.Thank you very much, thank you for letting me go on air. I want to tell
:19:12. > :19:17.you what's going on. Most people when they know I'm going to talk to
:19:18. > :19:23.you, told me just to send this message - the situation inside
:19:24. > :19:29.Aleppo is the doomsday. It is doomsday. It is literally the
:19:30. > :19:36.doomsday. Just when I'm coming here to the internet centre, I have to
:19:37. > :19:42.take maybe 15 minutes, it is so close to my house because bombs,
:19:43. > :19:45.bombs are everywhere, people are running, they don't know where, just
:19:46. > :19:53.running. Some people are injured in the streets. No one can go to help
:19:54. > :19:59.them. Some of them, some people no one can help them. They just leave
:20:00. > :20:07.them until they die under the rubble. These houses are their
:20:08. > :20:16.graves. Bombs here. People don't know what to do. For me, I risk my
:20:17. > :20:23.life. I risk my life to go out because it is so dangerous. No one
:20:24. > :20:27.can move ten meters or 20 without having bombs close to them. Most
:20:28. > :20:34.people don't have houses because all those people who moved from the
:20:35. > :20:39.areas that were controlled by the regime, now they are in our areas.
:20:40. > :20:44.It is so dangerous and the bombs are likely so they make huge numbers of
:20:45. > :20:52.casualties and kill people. Have you seen in the last few days
:20:53. > :20:56.and weeks any sign of aid agencies, of humanitarian workers, anybody,
:20:57. > :21:05.has anybody been able to get to you to help you and your family? Sorry,
:21:06. > :21:11.can you repeat your question? I might not get it. Have you seen any
:21:12. > :21:18.aid agencies or any humanitarian workers who could help you, your
:21:19. > :21:30.family, your neighbours? No one could care to come to help us.
:21:31. > :21:36.Russian regime decided to exterminate parts of Aleppo. This is
:21:37. > :21:43.the regime this. Is what some of them are telling us. So no one comes
:21:44. > :21:49.there. No United Nations. No humanitarian agencies can come to
:21:50. > :21:55.help us. All the night and in the morning my wife just has been crying
:21:56. > :22:02.and she doesn't know what to say because it is dangerous. She is
:22:03. > :22:06.always afraid. She is always scared. We don't know what to do, but I want
:22:07. > :22:11.to have a comment about something in your report. You said that the
:22:12. > :22:16.rebels make us as human shields. This is not true. A lot of people
:22:17. > :22:22.who want to go to the regime areas are going there. Some people can go.
:22:23. > :22:27.For me, I'm talking to you now, so this is a crime for the regime. I
:22:28. > :22:32.will be arrested. I will be put in prison or I'm going to be killed
:22:33. > :22:37.directly. I'm a civilian. I'm not a fighter of the it is a crime for a
:22:38. > :22:41.regime A lot of people here who work as doctors and teachers and as
:22:42. > :22:44.activists will be killed or arrested if they go to the regime. Even their
:22:45. > :22:50.families are going to be killed or arrested. So we can go there. It is
:22:51. > :22:53.not a matter of human shields at allment we don't want to go there.
:22:54. > :23:00.We don't want to go to the regime areas. Yes, we might go to the
:23:01. > :23:07.countryside but the regime, it is another kind of death. I understand.
:23:08. > :23:12.I'm going to introduce to Dr David Knott who is a surgeon who worked in
:23:13. > :23:18.Aleppo. Talk to Abdul. Abdul, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. I
:23:19. > :23:22.have been on the whatsapp and various messages to your colleagues
:23:23. > :23:26.there, all the doctors, I regularly speak to them every single day and
:23:27. > :23:29.we're trying our very, very best because they also will be looked on
:23:30. > :23:34.as terrorists and they also don't want to go into the regime areas.
:23:35. > :23:39.And what we are trying to do is to try and create a ceasefire between
:23:40. > :23:44.the Russians and the Syrian regime and I know the armed operating
:23:45. > :23:47.groups there have agreed to a ceasefire, but at the moment the
:23:48. > :23:51.British Government and everybody are trying their very, very hardest to
:23:52. > :23:56.try and create a ceasefire. That is the most important thing that we're
:23:57. > :24:00.trying to do at this present time. We hope that, really, we hope to
:24:01. > :24:11.have a ceasefire soon because most people now are dying here... Those
:24:12. > :24:17.people who are dying here now don't have a chance to go out and to treat
:24:18. > :24:23.their injuries. Of course, no hospitalses awe know, all the
:24:24. > :24:29.hospitals were detroud. We might have now a ceasefire just to help
:24:30. > :24:34.those people. At least some people in the rubble, we want to take them
:24:35. > :24:40.out and put them this their graves of the it is catastrophic. It is
:24:41. > :24:45.really catastrophic, it might be one of the worst human situations in the
:24:46. > :24:51.new history. Would you agree with that? Without a dausmt they are in
:24:52. > :24:55.an area by ten kill old terse by ten kilometres and there is 50,000 in
:24:56. > :24:58.that area. We have got children ready to go and patients ready to
:24:59. > :25:03.go, we have got everybody waiting to get out. The UN are surrounding the
:25:04. > :25:07.areas with their vehicles, but the shelling is so intense that nobody
:25:08. > :25:13.can move and if you do go outside, you have the problem of being killed
:25:14. > :25:18.and this morning there were women and children killed on the road. The
:25:19. > :25:22.big issue is somehow, somehow, the Russians and the Syrian regime need
:25:23. > :25:27.to stop bombing to get the civilians out and that's what we're trying.
:25:28. > :25:30.This is not going happen. What, the ceasefire is not going to happen?
:25:31. > :25:35.The ceasefire has been on the table for a week. The Russians and the
:25:36. > :25:39.Syrian Army and their allies are trying to do really squeeze the
:25:40. > :25:44.rebels. It is to really bleed the rebels, is to really increase the
:25:45. > :25:51.costs for eastern Aleppo. Aleppo has fallen. The regime now controls
:25:52. > :25:55.almost more than 90%. You have today, last night and today, they
:25:56. > :26:00.captured the neighbourhood which is the nerve centre of the rebels. So
:26:01. > :26:04.with the Syrian Army and its allies are trying to force the rebels to
:26:05. > :26:08.surrender, they are not going accept any ceasefire. They want to dictate
:26:09. > :26:11.saying the rebels are going to leave and that's why the pressure, the
:26:12. > :26:15.ceasefire is not going to happen, unless there is an agreement for the
:26:16. > :26:20.rebel to exit eastern Aleppo and who is paying the price? The civilians.
:26:21. > :26:26.It is a hellish situation on earth for the civilians. You have 150,000
:26:27. > :26:31.civilians in the eastern part in 10% eastern Aleppo. Last week, we were
:26:32. > :26:38.able to negotiate with the Russians to get a road up from east Aleppo,
:26:39. > :26:43.through west Aleppo, up to another area. The road, they agreed and
:26:44. > :26:46.everybody agreed that was the way the teachers, the professionals and
:26:47. > :26:52.the doctors could get out, plus the patients. But the shelling just
:26:53. > :26:58.won't stop. What's happening is you have between 30,000 and 50,000
:26:59. > :27:02.civilians who have been able to leave eastern Aleppo, what do you do
:27:03. > :27:06.when you have 100,000 who don't want to leave? You have a major segment
:27:07. > :27:10.of the population who are terrified to go to the western part that's
:27:11. > :27:13.controlled by got and the reality is the Americans and the western powers
:27:14. > :27:18.on the one hand and Russia are negotiating a way out. So far, there
:27:19. > :27:23.is no deal. And that's why in the past 24 hours the Syrian Army and
:27:24. > :27:28.its allies have made major inroads into the 10% of eastern Aleppo.
:27:29. > :27:33.Almost 1,000 rebels had to surrender and who knows what's going to happen
:27:34. > :27:38.to them according to Russia? The next 48 hours or two or three days
:27:39. > :27:45.are pivotal, not only deciding the future of the 5,000 rebels, deciding
:27:46. > :27:49.the future of the people who remain in eastern Aleppo. Abdul, we are
:27:50. > :27:54.particularly grateful to you for talking to us. Talking to our
:27:55. > :27:57.British audience when things are so dangerous there. Thank you very much
:27:58. > :28:05.for your time, Abdul. Thaumpbleghts.
:28:06. > :28:13.Professor thank you, and Dr David Knott, thank you. This tweet from
:28:14. > :28:18.Michelle, "No help, no humanitarian aid, no one seems tb able to help
:28:19. > :28:22.them." Another tweet, "Future generations will ask what did you do
:28:23. > :28:26.during the massacre in Syria?" Some of the description from Abdul, you
:28:27. > :28:31.know, he said the bombs were like rain. He talked about his wife not
:28:32. > :28:35.being able to stop crying. He was frantic. He was scared. He was
:28:36. > :28:56.desperate and we await to see if there will be a ceasefire.
:28:57. > :29:04.A former youth player at Chelsea, where owe Gradi was assistant
:29:05. > :29:08.manager says he was assaulted by Eddie Heath's the club's chief scout
:29:09. > :29:14.when the boy was 15. Heath who has since died has been accused of
:29:15. > :29:20.several people of abuse in the 70s and 80s, Crewe have yet to speak
:29:21. > :29:29.publicly about Dario Gradi's statement. John Bowler faced
:29:30. > :29:41.questions from journalists. Was it you or the FA that suspended Dario
:29:42. > :29:45.Gradi? I will be putting out a statement later on. We have had a
:29:46. > :29:49.statement from Crewe Alexandra. "Following discussions with the
:29:50. > :29:55.Football Association Crewe can confirm that Dario Gradi is under an
:29:56. > :29:58.FA interim suspension." That's it. That's the length and breadth of the
:29:59. > :30:02.statement from Crewe. Following discussion with the Football
:30:03. > :30:07.Association, Crewe can confirm that Dario Gradi is currently under an FA
:30:08. > :30:11.interim suspension. Dario Gradi, Director of Football and before
:30:12. > :30:15.that, manager, of course as you know for many years. Let's talk to
:30:16. > :30:22.Richard Conway who is at Wembley. Tell us more.
:30:23. > :30:31.A-short statement from Crewe. Just confirming what we have been
:30:32. > :30:37.reporting for around 24 hours that Dario Gradi has been suspended. The
:30:38. > :30:41.FA have taken this action against Dario Gradi. Given the
:30:42. > :30:46.circumstances, surrounding Crewe Alexandra, it is one they clearly
:30:47. > :30:50.have gone. Nothing from the FA themselves on this, but confirmation
:30:51. > :30:55.coming from Crewe. Last week, we should say, there were reports in
:30:56. > :31:01.the Independent newspaper, that Dario Gradi was when employed by
:31:02. > :31:06.xhles in the 1970s involved in smoothing over a complaint of
:31:07. > :31:11.inappropriate behaviour towards a young player who was with Chelsea at
:31:12. > :31:16.the time. Now, it is reported again that that may have prompted action
:31:17. > :31:20.from the FA against Dario Gradi, but we simply do not know at this stage
:31:21. > :31:24.because we don't have information from the FA or from Crewe
:31:25. > :31:29.themselves, just that very brief statement saying that he has been
:31:30. > :31:31.suspended pending this ongoing investigation. Cheers, Richard.
:31:32. > :31:41.Richard Conway at Wembley. Joanna is in the BBC
:31:42. > :31:44.Newsroom with a summary Five former Football Association
:31:45. > :31:54.chiefs have urged the Government Grundy denies any wrongdoing, and
:31:55. > :31:59.says he will assist with the FA's review.
:32:00. > :32:01.Five former Football Association chiefs have urged the Government
:32:02. > :32:03.to reform the structure of the Football Association.
:32:04. > :32:06.They criticised its upper ranks as being "out of balance" and filled
:32:07. > :32:10.David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne
:32:11. > :32:12.and David Triesman called for legislation to be
:32:13. > :32:18.passed, blaming the FA's "inability to reform".
:32:19. > :32:21.Six people have been arrested this morning on suspicion of offences
:32:22. > :32:25.Four men from Derby, a woman from London and a man
:32:26. > :32:27.from Burton-on-Trent are being held in police custody on suspicion
:32:28. > :32:30.of preparing for an act of terrorism as part of an ongoing
:32:31. > :32:40.The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has hit out over planned strikes
:32:41. > :32:42.on Southern Rail that are set to cause travel chaos
:32:43. > :32:45.Members of rail union Aslef have planned three days
:32:46. > :32:48.of strikes this week - a move the Home Secretary called
:32:49. > :32:51.The strikes will halt all Southern's services,
:32:52. > :32:57.disrupting the 500,000 passengers who use the service every day.
:32:58. > :33:00.That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC Newsroom
:33:01. > :33:03.John Watson's here now with this morning's sports headlines.
:33:04. > :33:11.Thank you. England's struggles on their tour of India continue as they
:33:12. > :33:15.lost the fourth test by one innings and 36 runs. To stand any chance of
:33:16. > :33:18.forcing a draw, their bottom order needed to show some resistance this
:33:19. > :33:22.morning, but they lost their remaining four wickets in just over
:33:23. > :33:26.half an hour. James Anderson was last ago, and with him when the
:33:27. > :33:30.series, meaning they are now 3-0 down with one match left to play.
:33:31. > :33:34.Chelsea have extended their winning run in the Premier League to nine
:33:35. > :33:38.matches after a 1-0 win over West Brom. Diego Costa with the only goal
:33:39. > :33:42.of the game. He now has 12 for the season, more than any other player
:33:43. > :33:46.in the league. The draw for the Champions League will be made at 11
:33:47. > :33:49.o'clock, with Arsenal Manchester City and Leicester all waited to see
:33:50. > :33:53.who they will face in the knockout stages, the final of which is to be
:33:54. > :33:58.played with Cardiff's With the polity Stadium. And Latvia have said
:33:59. > :34:03.they may well Paul Aiton of the bobsleigh World Championships next
:34:04. > :34:11.year unless Sochi are removed as hosts. This is in response to the
:34:12. > :34:14.report on the state-sponsored doping system run by Russia according to
:34:15. > :34:20.the McLaren report in 2011 for a four-year period. And that is all
:34:21. > :34:26.your sportswear now. Plenty more on BBC news throughout the day. Thank
:34:27. > :34:30.you very much. Condoms, combined pill,
:34:31. > :34:31.progesterone pill, implant, injection, hormonal coil,
:34:32. > :34:33.copper coil, diaphragm, cap, female condoms,
:34:34. > :34:35.patch, vaginal ring, female sterilisation,
:34:36. > :34:37.male sterilisation, fertility awareness -
:34:38. > :34:40.these are the 15 types of contraception that
:34:41. > :34:47.all Gps should provide. But this programme has discovered
:34:48. > :34:49.that some GPs have stopped providing And clinicians are warning it
:34:50. > :35:00.could lead to a rise in abortions A survey of GPs from the family
:35:01. > :35:04.planning Association suggests only 2% offer the full range of
:35:05. > :35:08.contraceptive methods. 53% don't have enough time to give women all
:35:09. > :35:09.the information they need, and 23% won't offer the contraceptive
:35:10. > :35:16.implant. Let's speak now to GP
:35:17. > :35:19.Anne Connolly who is a member of the Advisory Group
:35:20. > :35:21.on Contraception Laura Russell, from And Shelly Raine - a nurse,
:35:22. > :35:24.specializing in contraception and who now trains nurses
:35:25. > :35:28.in the field. Good morning to all of you. Why does
:35:29. > :35:34.this matter? We have seen fantastic reductions in teen pregnancy over
:35:35. > :35:39.the last ten years, and one of the major point about that, one of the
:35:40. > :35:44.major factors in that has been improved education in primary-care,
:35:45. > :35:47.to the contraceptive services. A lot of extra training, but particularly
:35:48. > :35:53.a focus on the much more reliable, much more cost efficient long-acting
:35:54. > :35:58.reversible methods. What is a long acting reversible method? Anything
:35:59. > :36:05.that a user doesn't have to take every day or to use during the
:36:06. > :36:10.actual act of sex. So, the implant, the coil, the injection, what we
:36:11. > :36:14.call the fit and forget methods, so once they are there, they will not
:36:15. > :36:23.fail. But it is rare for a woman not to be able to get hold of
:36:24. > :36:26.contraception. ? It is becoming more difficult, and fundamentally it is
:36:27. > :36:31.about choice for women. When women can choose which contraception to
:36:32. > :36:37.use, they are more likely to use it consistently and correctly. Do you
:36:38. > :36:40.need a choice of 15? Or 15? As we heard in your film earlier, some
:36:41. > :36:43.methods work more effectively for different women, and if you don't
:36:44. > :36:47.have the choice available, you may not find the one that is right for
:36:48. > :36:54.you, and when you consider that women spend around 30 years either
:36:55. > :36:58.planning or preventing pregnancy throughout their lifetime, choice is
:36:59. > :37:01.really important. Shelley, you are a nurse specialising in this area.
:37:02. > :37:07.What problems are you seeing because of cuts? We are getting more
:37:08. > :37:10.pressure on the clinics and nurses in particular, and we are finding
:37:11. > :37:17.that women are coming to ask, there is reduced access to appointments,
:37:18. > :37:22.reduced choice as we have heard, nurses are under increasing pressure
:37:23. > :37:29.to take on a lot of the workload as staff are leaving, they are having
:37:30. > :37:32.to see more patients in less time, and we are frustrated that we can't
:37:33. > :37:37.give the kind of service that we would like and should be able to
:37:38. > :37:42.give to winning, and if women's choice is reduced, then this is
:37:43. > :37:49.going to have a long-term effect. In what respect? Your film showed
:37:50. > :37:53.earlier that people are concerned about possible increases in
:37:54. > :37:58.unplanned pregnancies. If women have a less effective method, then if
:37:59. > :38:04.they have problems with a method and they can't get access to a clinician
:38:05. > :38:08.for help or support to either carry on with the same method or change to
:38:09. > :38:14.another method, then people are going to take risks, and that is the
:38:15. > :38:21.reality of the situation, and we don't want that to happen. We have
:38:22. > :38:26.had some viewers saying that women cannot hold partly responsible GPs
:38:27. > :38:31.for an unplanned pregnancy, that is just ridiculous. Would you accept
:38:32. > :38:34.that? I think we as GPs need to be able to advise women on all of the
:38:35. > :38:37.methods and support them with their choices. But in the end it is down
:38:38. > :38:42.to the individual to protect themselves? It is, but they can only
:38:43. > :38:47.do that if they are aware that they have these options. Really the women
:38:48. > :38:50.that are struggling most with all these cuts, particularly around
:38:51. > :38:55.access to the specialist services or to primary-care are women who are
:38:56. > :38:58.already most vulnerable. So we are particularly seeing the young women,
:38:59. > :39:18.their services were cut so they don't even know there is an option.
:39:19. > :39:20.their services were cut so they need to be a bore to support most,
:39:21. > :39:27.because they are the most vulnerable, and they are the women
:39:28. > :39:30.struggling to access contraception. And your group is partly funded by
:39:31. > :39:36.drugs company, is that correct? It gets support for it, but those of us
:39:37. > :39:40.who attend meetings do that involuntarily in our own time. So
:39:41. > :39:45.you would say it would be unfair if someone accused you of pushing this
:39:46. > :39:52.because you are partly funded by drugs company? I would be
:39:53. > :39:55.disappointed if any body for -- if anybody felt that, because we have
:39:56. > :40:01.been pushing the importance of this for women. So is this a message to
:40:02. > :40:07.local authorities as to whether allocate their fund, or to
:40:08. > :40:11.Government? Local authorities and GPs are facing increasing strain, so
:40:12. > :40:15.this is a message to Government. The funding system is so complex and
:40:16. > :40:18.fractured, it makes it really difficult, and there doesn't seem to
:40:19. > :40:20.be significant oversight from any particular body of government, and
:40:21. > :40:25.that is an important issue that needs to be addressed. A final
:40:26. > :40:28.thought from you if I may. If a woman is not getting the choice she
:40:29. > :40:41.thinks she should be offered, what should she? It is a case of shopping
:40:42. > :40:48.around. Women can look to where there are clinics local to them,
:40:49. > :40:50.they can contact reproductive health centres, they may get some
:40:51. > :40:52.information there to really find where services are locally, because
:40:53. > :40:55.that is the message we get when women come to us, that sometimes
:40:56. > :40:59.they have had to wait, have to or three visits to be able to access
:41:00. > :41:02.one of the more effective methods that they actually want to use when
:41:03. > :41:08.they do know about them. Thank you all very much. FDA also has a
:41:09. > :41:14.contraception tool that takes into account your physical needs and
:41:15. > :41:17.personal preferences, and that will help you decide, Si Woo Kim print
:41:18. > :41:24.out the survey and take it to your GP. Thank you all very much. -- so
:41:25. > :41:26.you can print it out. The Department of Health didn't want to talk to us
:41:27. > :41:28.today. They did however tell
:41:29. > :41:30.us that they believe, "Local areas are best placed
:41:31. > :41:33.to decide how to provide the sexual health services
:41:34. > :41:35.their communities need." A group of EU nationals living
:41:36. > :41:38.in the UK want Downing Street to assure them they'll be able
:41:39. > :41:41.to stay in the UK after Brexit. They want a guarantee before
:41:42. > :41:47.Article 50 is triggered. Sunder Katwala is director
:41:48. > :41:54.for British Future, the independent In our Westminster studio
:41:55. > :42:03.is the former leader In Cambridge is Jakub Nagrodski,
:42:04. > :42:08.who's a student who moved And Anne-Laure Donskoy moved
:42:09. > :42:19.here from France nearly 30 years ago Welcome to all of you. Tell us more
:42:20. > :42:23.about the recommendations you have come up with. We brought together
:42:24. > :42:33.people from both sides of the referendum. We found that we could
:42:34. > :42:42.agree that it is the right thing to do that people who live here can
:42:43. > :42:46.stay, and secondly, we need a practical plan to do this well. This
:42:47. > :42:50.is one of the biggest things the British Government has ever done,
:42:51. > :42:52.sofa two thirds of people who have been here for five years, they
:42:53. > :42:54.should be able to apply locally, check if they are on the tax
:42:55. > :42:56.records, get the green light very simply. And after that? After that
:42:57. > :42:58.you would have a process to check the different groups. Everybody who
:42:59. > :43:00.was here before the referendum or up to the article 50 date, because you
:43:01. > :43:03.need a safe legal moment, should get it guaranteed right to settle.
:43:04. > :43:08.People coming after that, that will depend on the new immigration rules
:43:09. > :43:12.we make, and you come with your eyes wide open, people who he already did
:43:13. > :43:17.not know this was going to happen. Lord Pearson, would you agree with
:43:18. > :43:22.that? Of course I agree that the European nationals living here
:43:23. > :43:28.should be allowed to stay, I agree completely about that. But the
:43:29. > :43:32.problem is that as I understand it, the British Government about a
:43:33. > :43:40.fortnight ago did offer the European Union to allow all of the 3 million
:43:41. > :43:51.EU citizens living here to stay here provided our 1.2 million citizens
:43:52. > :43:53.who are living there could also be guaranteed residency, and the
:43:54. > :43:58.problem is that Mrs Merkel and Donald Tusk turned that down. 20
:43:59. > :44:04.countries wanted to accept it, but they turned it down as usual because
:44:05. > :44:06.they don't give a down about the people who unfortunately suffer
:44:07. > :44:10.under their crazy project of European integration. They are only
:44:11. > :44:17.interested in keeping the wretched thing alive, and all the EU has to
:44:18. > :44:20.do is to accept the offer that was made, which is very much more to
:44:21. > :44:26.their advantage than ours, because they have three million people
:44:27. > :44:30.living here and we have 1 million people living there, and then this
:44:31. > :44:35.would go away, so don't blame the Government, blame, as usual,
:44:36. > :44:38.Brussels. Are you even bothered about blaming anybody? I am
:44:39. > :44:43.interested about how you feel about your status right now. Good morning,
:44:44. > :44:49.thank you for having me on your programme. The way that the 3
:44:50. > :45:00.million feel today, there is hope in this report, hope that our status
:45:01. > :45:01.will be settled sooner rather than later, because there is so much
:45:02. > :45:04.anxiety currently amongst our members. People do not want to be
:45:05. > :45:07.treated as bargaining chips. We are people who are just trying to lead
:45:08. > :45:19.ordinary lives just like anybody else. Jakub, what about your own
:45:20. > :45:23.feelings? Good morning. I agree there is so much anxiety in the
:45:24. > :45:26.population of EU nationals living in the UK right now, that this has to
:45:27. > :45:31.be settled very quickly, and we would like some sort of guarantee
:45:32. > :45:35.that we would not only be able to stay, but for myself and my friends
:45:36. > :45:40.as students, we would also like a guarantee that we would be able to
:45:41. > :45:47.continue our university courses under the same conditions as we
:45:48. > :45:53.applied under, as well as our career prospects will be protected. I
:45:54. > :45:58.wonder if you accept Lord Pearson's went, that we need a guarantee about
:45:59. > :46:04.the 3 million nationals all swear. We think the British government has
:46:05. > :46:12.the ability to do that. In it irrespective of what Angela Merkel
:46:13. > :46:15.and Donald Tusk are saying? If the Government insist on doing it both
:46:16. > :46:21.ways, let's hope they can do it as quickly as possible. Lord Pearson
:46:22. > :46:26.said 20 governments agree already, I wish they would just say in public
:46:27. > :46:30.we are going to sort this out. The Polish Prime Minister came to London
:46:31. > :46:33.and said nobody wants to feel they are hostages in this negotiation,
:46:34. > :46:36.and we should be clear that the first thing we are going to do post
:46:37. > :46:43.Brexit, we should do it well and do it properly. Thank you all very much
:46:44. > :46:48.for your time. It's been described
:46:49. > :46:50.as Big Brother for Muslims - ten British Muslims in a Georgian
:46:51. > :47:05.house in York filmed living together The first of two programmes called
:47:06. > :47:09.Muslims Like Us goes out The ten include a man who announces
:47:10. > :47:14.to the group he's gay, and a former boxer, a convicted
:47:15. > :47:16.fraudster who has openly supported On the surface, Britain's 2.7
:47:17. > :47:45.million Muslims are united in faith. But behind closed doors,
:47:46. > :47:47.in Muslim homes across the country, there's a struggle to define
:47:48. > :47:55.what makes a good Muslim. Muslims judge each other too much
:47:56. > :47:58.and hold each other to these I want the foundations of Islam laid
:47:59. > :48:09.out so that Muslims will be happy to say, "I am
:48:10. > :48:11.a fundamentalist Muslim". This religion is betrayed
:48:12. > :48:13.by the whole world. Because they are not
:48:14. > :48:19.applying it properly. Now, ten Muslims from across Britain
:48:20. > :48:22.will live under one I've never heard so much
:48:23. > :48:29.emphasis on heaven and hell. Don't tell me what I can talk about.
:48:30. > :48:32.Go start with someone else. Can we ten people come together
:48:33. > :48:35.and understand each other? ..to work out who embodies
:48:36. > :48:41.the spirit of Islam... We have huge amounts
:48:42. > :48:43.of racism and anti-blackness We really struggled
:48:44. > :48:54.with looking at our own flaws ..what being a Muslim
:48:55. > :49:02.really means... When I say Allahu akbar, those
:49:03. > :49:05.are the best minutes of my life. ..and how that fits
:49:06. > :49:07.with modern Britain. Muslims need to integrate
:49:08. > :49:09.more for their own sake. You must be where you are.
:49:10. > :49:12.Fully. I'm a Muslim, in case
:49:13. > :49:14.you didn't know. Are you?
:49:15. > :49:16.I'm part of the EDL. I run the EDL. Oh, really?
:49:17. > :49:18.Give me a hug, then. Here one of the women in the house -
:49:19. > :49:29.Mehreen Baig explains why she feels her voice as a liberal
:49:30. > :49:45.Muslim woman isn't heard enough. Growing up, I wasn't the most
:49:46. > :49:55.attractive child. I had a very, very big monobrow and a moustache and
:49:56. > :50:00.beard. In Year ten I was allowed to remove my beard and get my eyebrows
:50:01. > :50:04.done and I actually looked pretty. A lot of Muslim people have a warped
:50:05. > :50:10.view. They think I'm the Muslim girl gone bad. That my religion is a
:50:11. > :50:15.very, very, important part to me. I pray every single day. I'm your
:50:16. > :50:21.average, normal British Muslim person. In the majority, but our
:50:22. > :50:28.voice is the least heard. Let's talk to Kieran Smith
:50:29. > :50:32.who is Factual Director They developed the series
:50:33. > :50:38.and have also produced other programmes Benefits Street
:50:39. > :50:41.and Make Bradford British and Bake In Salford is Mobeen Azhar
:50:42. > :50:44.who is the Series Producer who was responsible for amongst
:50:45. > :50:46.other things, casting And also in Salford is one
:50:47. > :50:50.of the participants of the show, Mehreen Baig who we just heard
:50:51. > :50:52.from in that clip. Also here actress and writer
:50:53. > :50:55.Ambreen Razia, who is worried about some aspects of the series
:50:56. > :50:57.and journalist Shaheen Sattar who fears it will compound negative
:50:58. > :51:13.stereotypes of Muslims. Welcome all of you.
:51:14. > :51:18.There is criticism of one particular housemate, Abdul, a former member of
:51:19. > :51:26.the inner circle of the hate preacher Anjem Choudary. He
:51:27. > :51:32.expressed support for Islamic State and the criticism is you shouldn't
:51:33. > :51:36.be giving airtime to him It is important to discuss a range of
:51:37. > :51:40.views and to have representation from across the Muslim community. He
:51:41. > :51:43.is one of ten contributors and his views are robustly challenged. There
:51:44. > :51:47.is a lot of value because quite often I'm part of the Muslim
:51:48. > :51:53.community and quite often I hear this argument that Muslims need to
:51:54. > :51:57.do more to dissect and to disagree with and to distance themselves from
:51:58. > :52:01.particular views. Over the course of two hours, we see that happening for
:52:02. > :52:07.real and I for one think that's really valuable.
:52:08. > :52:18.I wonder if you would like to talk to Kieran who is next to you. I have
:52:19. > :52:25.only seen the first one. I would just say that I think just giving
:52:26. > :52:29.someone that kind of platform is, for me, it is quite scary, I think.
:52:30. > :52:34.I think because you know, having been, you know, a writer and actress
:52:35. > :52:40.and writing shows which essentially are trying to break stereotypes of
:52:41. > :52:44.Muslim people, for me I just feel like it reinforces that again. And I
:52:45. > :52:51.just think that this sort of, the views that he has, are so extreme
:52:52. > :52:54.and we already have those labels as Muslim people, extremists,
:52:55. > :53:00.terrorists and I don't know whether this is doing anything to counteract
:53:01. > :53:05.that. Could I ask what you mean when you said, "That kind of platform?"
:53:06. > :53:09.With the BBC he has been given an opportunity to express his views on
:53:10. > :53:13.television. Are you suggesting it would be better to pretend these
:53:14. > :53:17.people don't exist? Because once again, as someone who is very rooted
:53:18. > :53:26.in the Muslim community I would say, these views are out there. They are
:53:27. > :53:30.in our communities and surely we can't pretend those people don't
:53:31. > :53:33.exist? They are out there, but putting the spotlight on t I don't
:53:34. > :53:38.think it necessarily helps. I think we know it's out there. It has been
:53:39. > :53:44.highlighted in many ways. One of the things that we really wanted to do
:53:45. > :53:48.with Muslims Like Us is showing the pluralism within the Muslim
:53:49. > :53:54.community and show the diversity and what you'll notice is once you start
:53:55. > :53:59.watching the programme, yes, at the moment all the attention seems to be
:54:00. > :54:03.on Abdul, the other nine contributors in the house very
:54:04. > :54:13.quickly start actually confronting him about his opinions and about his
:54:14. > :54:19.views and really what I think is really important, Muslim society is
:54:20. > :54:26.not monolithic. We tend to only show one side of the Muslim community and
:54:27. > :54:29.that tends to be about extremism and fundalmentalism and we show a broad
:54:30. > :54:39.range of opinion within the various Muslim communities.
:54:40. > :54:42.We can't be delusional and say that people, with these extremist
:54:43. > :54:46.opinions don't exist within the community, but I think we need to
:54:47. > :54:51.look at the consequences of the show, we can see the extremists, the
:54:52. > :54:56.fundamentalist has been given considerable mead why attention and
:54:57. > :55:00.maybe to think about whether this exacerbates the situation, whether
:55:01. > :55:08.it exacerbates the stereo time. It is great to report negativity.
:55:09. > :55:13.Respond to that. Yes, I think it is a shame in one way that the media
:55:14. > :55:19.has focussed on Abdul... But come oranges you're experienced, you knew
:55:20. > :55:23.that was going to happen. Of course I understood that might happen and
:55:24. > :55:28.what I'm hoping and we're talking about a programme that no one has
:55:29. > :55:33.seen yet, I'm hoping once people see the programme they realise we worked
:55:34. > :55:37.hard to show a range of opinions within the Muslim communities. One
:55:38. > :55:45.of the first scenes that people will see tonight in the house is Abdul
:55:46. > :55:48.handing you a leaflet, a hand-out which talks about his desire that
:55:49. > :55:54.there shouldn't be free mixing in the house. Tell our audience how you
:55:55. > :56:00.handle that? I wouldn't like to ruin it for everyone. OK, sorry. But
:56:01. > :56:05.firstly I'd like to say I think everyone raises a valid point. It is
:56:06. > :56:10.correct that there has been a massive, there has been a lot of
:56:11. > :56:15.media attention on Abdul so far. Are we just promoting the stereotype?
:56:16. > :56:20.That was one of the things I was ap prehencive about before joining the
:56:21. > :56:23.show. I thought are we going to be adding to the negative
:56:24. > :56:26.characterisation of Muslims that already exists in society? However,
:56:27. > :56:30.we have got to remember we are talking about a show that we have
:56:31. > :56:36.not seen yet and it is very important to stress that there are
:56:37. > :56:41.nine other contributors as well as Abdul could WHO do not display
:56:42. > :56:46.extremist values and we mustn't let those people go ignored and I think
:56:47. > :56:52.once you have seen the show today and tomorrow, it will become very
:56:53. > :56:56.evident that having Abdul's opinions and having them challenged
:56:57. > :57:01.adequately challenged is actually a very important thing for everyone to
:57:02. > :57:06.see in order to challenge the stereotype, not promote it. As for
:57:07. > :57:11.him handing me the leaflet, and how I react to that, I think, we can all
:57:12. > :57:18.jump and shout and scream at the person whose views we disa greed
:57:19. > :57:22.with or some of Abdul's views may seem abhorrent and are and I
:57:23. > :57:26.disagreed with them strongly, but you will see in the show that
:57:27. > :57:29.perhaps speaking to people sometimes and trying to understand where
:57:30. > :57:33.they're coming from and then adequately challenging them in a way
:57:34. > :57:39.where they don't feel attacked might actually be the best way it get
:57:40. > :57:45.through to them. I agree. He is on the show. It is great he's there.
:57:46. > :57:49.The nine other contestants will continuously question him, but he
:57:50. > :57:52.does make good entertainment and there is a reason why he is on the
:57:53. > :57:55.show. He has been given considerable media attention, but what the
:57:56. > :58:00.consequences of the show will be is that the British public will choose
:58:01. > :58:05.an ideal Muslim, a moderate mus lum and look up to that ideal and any
:58:06. > :58:10.other Muslim will be all of a sudden, they don't fit that. People
:58:11. > :58:15.who aren't feminist or don't fit the popular person on the show. I'm
:58:16. > :58:20.going to stop you there. Are you regretting selling Bake Off to
:58:21. > :58:30.Channel 4? I thought I was here to talk about
:58:31. > :58:33.Muslims Like Us. Thank you very much. Thank you very
:58:34. > :58:40.much. Tonight, that programme is at 9pm on
:58:41. > :58:42.BBC Two.