05/01/2017

:00:00. > :00:08.Hello - it's Thursday, it's 9am, I'm Victoria Derbyshire,

:00:09. > :00:12.Our top story today - warnings children are being left

:00:13. > :00:16.to "fend for themselves" online - with parents vainly hoping

:00:17. > :00:29.I'm the Children's Commissioner and we will be looking at how we give

:00:30. > :00:31.children resilience, honest information and the power to

:00:32. > :00:33.flourish online. If you identify with that -

:00:34. > :00:35.do get in touch. We'll talk to a group

:00:36. > :00:37.of schoolchildren Also on the programme -

:00:38. > :00:44.the men who massacre We'll hear from some of those

:00:45. > :00:55.who survived the attacks. It is really hard. Those are the

:00:56. > :01:02.things I have to live with now. Even though it has been 14 years, I have

:01:03. > :01:05.bad dreams and all of the things that you have experienced...

:01:06. > :01:08.And - could where you live affect your chances of getting dementia?

:01:09. > :01:11.Researchers say people who live near major roads may have a greater

:01:12. > :01:28.Welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am this morning.

:01:29. > :01:35.We will bring you breaking news and developing stories, and we will

:01:36. > :01:36.examine the deaths of two rough sleepers in one town in the UK over

:01:37. > :01:38.Christmas week. Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:39. > :01:41.we're talking about this morning - use #VictoriaLIVE and if you text,

:01:42. > :01:44.you will be charged We would really like your input on

:01:45. > :01:48.this... The Children's Commissioner

:01:49. > :01:50.for England has warned that young people are left to face the dangers

:01:51. > :01:53.of bullying and grooming Anne Longfield says children -

:01:54. > :01:56.and often their parents - have no idea what they are signing

:01:57. > :02:00.up to on social media sites and pupils as young as four should

:02:01. > :02:02.be taught about internet Our Education Correspondent Gillian

:02:03. > :02:06.Hargreaves has more. Digital technology can

:02:07. > :02:08.enrich children's minds, Millions of youngsters have joined

:02:09. > :02:16.social media sites to keep in touch with friends,

:02:17. > :02:20.but many of those questioned by the commissioner have little idea

:02:21. > :02:23.of what they're signing up to. With pages of terms and conditions,

:02:24. > :02:25.it seems few realise The Children's Commissioner calls

:02:26. > :02:31.for the appointment of a digital ombudsman to mediate

:02:32. > :02:33.between children and social media She also recommends there should be

:02:34. > :02:38.mandatory digital citizenship courses in schools and new privacy

:02:39. > :02:41.laws to protect children's What no-one has done yet is to look

:02:42. > :02:54.at how we design and intervene with a digital world in a way that

:02:55. > :02:58.can really give children the support they need for the place they spend

:02:59. > :03:01.an awful lot of time, but also the information

:03:02. > :03:03.and the power to be able to get While Instagram, Facebook

:03:04. > :03:09.and Twitter recommend that their services are most

:03:10. > :03:12.suitable for children over the age of 13, younger children can

:03:13. > :03:29.circumvent the rules As a mum, dad or grandparent, are

:03:30. > :03:33.you worried about this with your kids or grandchildren? Let me know,

:03:34. > :03:37.how do you police it and make sure that they are safe online? We will

:03:38. > :03:40.speak to this group of primary school pupils and secondary school

:03:41. > :03:45.pupils and the Children's Commissioner for England. Good

:03:46. > :03:51.morning. They are here to give their views and whether it is something

:03:52. > :03:53.they worry about Wednesday tick the "I agree" on the terms and

:03:54. > :03:58.conditions. -- Wednesday. Annita is in the BBC

:03:59. > :04:00.Newsroom with a summary People who live near main roads may

:04:01. > :04:05.be at greater risk of dementia, according to a decade-long study

:04:06. > :04:07.by scientists in Canada. The medical causes of the brain

:04:08. > :04:10.disease have yet to be identified but the research suggests air

:04:11. > :04:13.pollution and noisy traffic could be Memories lost, thoughts confused,

:04:14. > :04:16.personalities gradually fading. Dementia affects 850,000

:04:17. > :04:21.people in the UK. Now there's a claim it

:04:22. > :04:25.could be linked to traffic. This study from Canada shows that

:04:26. > :04:28.people living close to busy roads had higher chances

:04:29. > :04:34.of developing dementia. Researchers in Ontario followed

:04:35. > :04:36.more than two million The ones who lived within 50 metres

:04:37. > :04:42.of heavy traffic had a 12% higher risk of dementia than those more

:04:43. > :04:45.than 200 metres away. So what is it that's actually

:04:46. > :04:52.affecting the brain? Ultra-fine particles,

:04:53. > :04:53.the very smallest ones, can actually move across the lungs

:04:54. > :04:55.into the bloodstream How those particles work,

:04:56. > :05:02.a bit speculative, but one hypothesis is fairly nonspecific

:05:03. > :05:03.effects on inflammation So we have a potential mechanism

:05:04. > :05:12.but it's far from proven. Experts here have cautiously

:05:13. > :05:14.welcomed the results They've stressed it shows

:05:15. > :05:23.an association, not a cause. They've pointed out dementia

:05:24. > :05:25.is also affected by age, But they are encouraging further

:05:26. > :05:29.research into the impact The appointment of Sir Tim Barrow

:05:30. > :05:38.as the UK's new ambassador to the European Union has

:05:39. > :05:40.been welcomed by almost He replaces Sir Ivan Rogers,

:05:41. > :05:49.who resigned on Tuesday after complaining of muddle

:05:50. > :05:51.and confusion in the The government says the UK's

:05:52. > :05:54.new ambassador in Brussels is a "seasoned and tough

:05:55. > :06:00.negotiator". Immigrants should be expected

:06:01. > :06:03.to learn English before coming to Britain, or attend language

:06:04. > :06:05.classes when they arrive. The All Party Parliamentary Group

:06:06. > :06:07.on social integration also wants the Government to consider giving

:06:08. > :06:10.the UK's nations and regions the power to control

:06:11. > :06:12.the number of visas issued. Here's our home affairs

:06:13. > :06:17.correspondent, Danny Shaw. Over the past decade,

:06:18. > :06:19.the scale of immigration to Britain has been unprecedented,

:06:20. > :06:21.sparking debate about whether the numbers should be

:06:22. > :06:28.reduced and if so, how? But this report from MPs and peers

:06:29. > :06:31.says there should be more focus on what happens

:06:32. > :06:33.after immigrants arrive. It says many immigrant communities

:06:34. > :06:36.and people already settled here lead parallel lives and it calls

:06:37. > :06:39.on the government to address what it The report makes a number

:06:40. > :06:47.of recommendations. It says all immigrants should learn

:06:48. > :06:49.English before coming to the UK or enrol in classes

:06:50. > :06:53.when they're here. It calls for courses to teach

:06:54. > :06:55.immigrants about British culture and the report says that government

:06:56. > :06:58.should give immigrants guidance on the costs and benefits of UK

:06:59. > :07:00.citizenship and consider cutting A lack of integration for newcomers

:07:01. > :07:09.leads to them not having access to the same opportunities,

:07:10. > :07:11.it can lead to an increase in All the things that make living

:07:12. > :07:23.in England and Britain You cannot enjoy what this

:07:24. > :07:28.country has to offer Another idea in the report

:07:29. > :07:32.is for immigration policy to be devolved to Britain's

:07:33. > :07:34.nations and regions. They'd be able to allocate visas

:07:35. > :07:36.according to local need. The report says that might instil

:07:37. > :07:38.confidence among members of the public that the immigration

:07:39. > :07:45.system works for their area. The Home Office says it is not

:07:46. > :07:48.planning to introduce local visa arrangements but the department says

:07:49. > :07:50.it has made funding available Four people have been arrested

:07:51. > :08:01.in the American city of Chicago over a video live-streamed

:08:02. > :08:03.on Facebook, in which a bound Police say the man being

:08:04. > :08:09.assaulted has special needs. His assailants can be heard making

:08:10. > :08:12.derogatory statements The man, who police say

:08:13. > :08:17.was acquainted with one of his attackers, has now been

:08:18. > :08:21.released from hospital. A record number of new cars

:08:22. > :08:31.were bought in the UK in 2016 - according to the Society

:08:32. > :08:41.of Motor Manufacturers and Traders. Sales hit 2.69 million -

:08:42. > :08:44.that's up more than two per cent However, the industry expects

:08:45. > :08:48.to sell fewer new cars this year. Handwritten letters

:08:49. > :08:50.from Princess Diana are due to be Written to a steward

:08:51. > :08:53.at Buckingham Palace, they reveal that a young

:08:54. > :08:55.Prince Harry was routinely In one letter dated 17th October,

:08:56. > :08:59.1992, she says how both young princes "are well and enjoying

:09:00. > :09:01.boarding school a lot, although The collection will be sold over

:09:02. > :09:05.approximately 40 lots - with estimates ranging

:09:06. > :09:07.from ?80 to ?900. The auction also includes

:09:08. > :09:08.letters from the Queen, written on Windsor Castle headed

:09:09. > :09:15.paper. A former Crewe Alexandra coach

:09:16. > :09:17.has denied wrongdoing after being suspended

:09:18. > :09:19.by the FA's safeguarding panel. Paul McCann worked with young

:09:20. > :09:21.players at the club He was working with the then-manager

:09:22. > :09:28.Dario Gradi, who is now He also later volunteered as a youth

:09:29. > :09:32.coach at non-league club AFC Nearly 5,000 contestants have taken

:09:33. > :09:39.part in an annual Japanese The competition requires

:09:40. > :09:47.participants to write phrases or poems of increasing complexity

:09:48. > :09:49.with a traditional brush and black Those taking part,

:09:50. > :09:58.aged from three to 93, were judged on the beauty

:09:59. > :10:00.of their strokes and The winners will be announced

:10:01. > :10:04.at a separate ceremony in February. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:10:05. > :10:14.News - more at 9.30am. Thank you, later in the programme we

:10:15. > :10:27.will be talking about final artwork like this... And, oh good, we have

:10:28. > :10:30.the human league in there -- vinyl. We will be talking to those hoping

:10:31. > :10:31.to make their own masterpieces in 2017.

:10:32. > :10:34.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:10:35. > :10:37.use the hashtag #VictoriaLive and if you text, you will be charged

:10:38. > :10:40.Let's get some sport with John Watson.

:10:41. > :10:47.It is really interesting at the top of the Premier League, isn't it?

:10:48. > :10:52.Yes, halting up after a huge result potentially in the title race last

:10:53. > :10:57.night. Chelsea were hoping to go on a record 14 matches, by winning the

:10:58. > :11:01.14 in a row but was stopped last night by Tottenham, they were simply

:11:02. > :11:09.superb at White Hart Lane, beating Chelsea 2-0. 20-year-old Dele Alli

:11:10. > :11:13.scored two headers so Chelsea were defeated for the first time since

:11:14. > :11:18.September. Man of the moment last night, seven goals in four matches

:11:19. > :11:23.for Dele Alli, an incredible run of form for Tottenham who have won five

:11:24. > :11:28.consecutive matches in a row. Let's hear from the goal-scorer who got

:11:29. > :11:34.two last night, Dele Alli himself. There is no need to talk before the

:11:35. > :11:39.game, everybody knew how big it was, you could see from the first whistle

:11:40. > :11:42.how badly the fans wanted it. It is aways nice to score but more

:11:43. > :11:47.important that we got that win today. Yes, that means Tottenham are

:11:48. > :11:51.now in third position, not a complete disaster for Chelsea, five

:11:52. > :11:55.points clear at the top of the table and their manager Antonio Conte is

:11:56. > :11:57.slightly disappointed they did not manage to match that record but he

:11:58. > :12:06.knows his team are well placed in the title race at the moment... It

:12:07. > :12:12.is a pity, but it is important to know that this can happen. It is

:12:13. > :12:15.important to continue to work very hard, and try and improve every day.

:12:16. > :12:25.Chelsea's winning run is over but Sir Andy Murray... It is not? He is

:12:26. > :12:29.flying at the moment, his winning run is continuing, 26 competitive

:12:30. > :12:39.matches in a row for him, and he has managed to continue his run at the

:12:40. > :12:43.Qatar Open, he was made to work hard against his competitor, he was

:12:44. > :12:49.sweating on the court, taken to a tie-break, but he came through 7-6,

:12:50. > :12:52.taking the second set 7-5. This is a big year for him, world number one

:12:53. > :12:57.and he would like to preserve that status and he wants to go through

:12:58. > :13:01.and win the Australian Open at the end of January. Johanna Konta is

:13:02. > :13:06.flying at the moment, she reached the semifinals of the Australian

:13:07. > :13:12.open last year, and she is one match away from what would be a third WTA

:13:13. > :13:16.final for her, she came through in her match in the quarterfinals of

:13:17. > :13:19.the shins and Open in China, world number ten and she wants to go and

:13:20. > :13:30.match those achievements of last year. It would be great if she can

:13:31. > :13:37.surpass that. And Kadeena Cox has responded to criticism that she is

:13:38. > :13:43.taking part in the reality ski show on Channel 4, The Jump, where nearly

:13:44. > :13:49.every competitor is injured? Yes, Kadeena Cox was one of the stars of

:13:50. > :13:53.the Paralympic games in Rio, winning gold in cycling and athletics but

:13:54. > :13:57.after the Paralympic Games she has decided she wants to go on the show

:13:58. > :14:01.The Jump, and why not? She would like to build on success from the

:14:02. > :14:08.summer, she describes her life as "A ticking time bomb", she says that

:14:09. > :14:13.her diagnosis of MS has changed her outlook on life and you would like

:14:14. > :14:19.to learn how to ski, why not? For the organisers, UK Sport, she has

:14:20. > :14:23.had her funding cut while she competes on the show, but it is

:14:24. > :14:27.looking good. She does not have any cycling events this year, she will

:14:28. > :14:31.be expected to take part in events in July, but she can compete on the

:14:32. > :14:35.show, but fingers crossed you does not get injured. It sounds like she

:14:36. > :14:36.would like to say yes to all opportunities, and who can blame

:14:37. > :14:40.her? John, thank you. This morning - the men

:14:41. > :14:45.who murder their own families. And before you ask -

:14:46. > :14:48.in 95% of cases it is men. So what causes them to carry out

:14:49. > :14:51.acts of such unspeakable brutality? Leading experts have told this

:14:52. > :14:53.programme we should be doing more to spot warning signs and patterns

:14:54. > :14:56.of behaviour - things like physical abuse,

:14:57. > :14:58.a loss of control and terrifying threats - which should be

:14:59. > :15:03.triggering concern and action. But what about the families who this

:15:04. > :15:06.advice is too late for? Our reporter James Longman has been

:15:07. > :15:09.to meet some of the people whose lives have been destroyed

:15:10. > :15:12.by these kind of attacks. They talk openly and honestly

:15:13. > :15:14.about what they've been through - you might find some

:15:15. > :15:18.of the details upsetting. One of the nightmares I have regular

:15:19. > :15:27.is when I'm on a field, and I can and I can see the car,

:15:28. > :15:33.and I can hear them calling, mummy, mummy, please help us, mummy,

:15:34. > :15:36.and all I can see is a knife, a knife going up and down in the car

:15:37. > :15:40.as he is killing the boys. They went and bought two litres

:15:41. > :15:43.of petrol and poured it all over the house,

:15:44. > :15:54.all over the floor, over the sofas They put him into an induced coma

:15:55. > :16:12.at this point to hold his body deal He had wires and tubes

:16:13. > :16:16.and things coming out There is a domestic incident

:16:17. > :16:27.in the UK every three days. It's mostly men who

:16:28. > :16:29.attacked their families. Why are they so violent,

:16:30. > :16:32.and what other warning signs? We've been to meet some

:16:33. > :16:34.of the people whose lives and families were destroyed by these

:16:35. > :16:37.sorts of attacks, and the author of one of UK's biggest studies

:16:38. > :16:39.of domestic homicide, who tries to explain

:16:40. > :16:53.why they happen. That particular night,

:16:54. > :17:11.I wore a red dress, and just bizarrely Chris de Burgh,

:17:12. > :17:13.Lady in Red, was on. He asked me to dance, and I danced,

:17:14. > :17:16.he treated me like a princess, Denise Williams met her ex-husband

:17:17. > :17:20.Stephen Wilson when she was 16. Six months in, and he's starting

:17:21. > :17:23.to show his true colours, but he knew I had nowhere to go,

:17:24. > :17:26.no one to run to. He'd call me all the different

:17:27. > :17:28.names under the sun, he'd verbally abuse me,

:17:29. > :17:30.mentally abuse me, physically Brett was born in 1993,

:17:31. > :17:36.and Bradley the following year. They had dark eyes, beautiful brown

:17:37. > :17:42.locks in their hair. How much happiness they brought me,

:17:43. > :17:45.even though I was living a horrible life of abuse and putting up

:17:46. > :17:47.with drunken outbursts, just having the children

:17:48. > :17:55.seemed to make it all OK. Denise took her sons and left

:17:56. > :17:57.Stephen several times. She lived for the last

:17:58. > :18:03.time in every 2002. She lived for the last

:18:04. > :18:05.time in February 2002. She didn't take Brett and Bradley

:18:06. > :18:08.with her that time but was planning They all met up at a restaurant

:18:09. > :18:16.a few days later. Tell me what happened the last time

:18:17. > :18:22.that you tried to leave. As I turned to get out the car,

:18:23. > :18:25.he pulled me, he pulled my hair and pulled me into his lap

:18:26. > :18:29.in the car, and he started punching So me panicking managed

:18:30. > :18:34.to find my horn of the car, and I managed to keep my hand

:18:35. > :18:38.on the horn of the car, and I found the handle on the car door,

:18:39. > :18:41.which I pushed open, and he panicked when I was blowing

:18:42. > :18:44.the horn on the car, And then he drove off,

:18:45. > :18:47.and that was the last I caught the tram back

:18:48. > :18:54.to my friend's house, He rang me, and he said I have just

:18:55. > :19:00.killed the kids and I'm And at that, you think,

:19:01. > :19:05.listen for the boys, listen for the boys in the background,

:19:06. > :19:08.can you hear them? And I remember them coming in,

:19:09. > :19:16.the Sergeant of the station, and he said, Denise,

:19:17. > :19:18.we found the boys, In the corner of this room

:19:19. > :19:28.was a big box of toys, and I'm going, go and fetch

:19:29. > :19:31.them, go and fetch them so they can play with the toys,

:19:32. > :19:34.and he just knelt on the floor, and he said to me,

:19:35. > :19:38.Denise, they're dead. and he said to me,

:19:39. > :19:40."Denise, they're dead". Stephen murdered his two sons

:19:41. > :19:43.by stabbing them in their necks. First he killed their youngest son,

:19:44. > :19:46.Bradley, who was seven years old, I remember going and just seeing

:19:47. > :19:51.the children through a glass, like they're in a fish tank,

:19:52. > :19:55.and I identified the bodies. And those are the things that

:19:56. > :20:16.I have to live with now, even though it's been 14 years,

:20:17. > :20:25.you still have the things and bad dreams that

:20:26. > :20:28.you've experienced. Stephen Wilson was given two life

:20:29. > :20:30.sentences for their murders. Jane Monkton-Smith is

:20:31. > :20:36.a criminologist at the University She is currently leading one

:20:37. > :20:41.of the biggest studies Over 95% of cases, it will be a man,

:20:42. > :20:48.and it will usually be One of the shocking things

:20:49. > :20:52.about this is that they are nearly always, if not always,

:20:53. > :20:57.planned, and there can be quite and they are usually incredibly

:20:58. > :21:06.violent. Denise's story shows a cycle

:21:07. > :21:12.of abuse ending in tragedy, but what about when the very

:21:13. > :21:15.children targeted David Potts attacked

:21:16. > :21:20.his partner's family, Somebody broke

:21:21. > :21:29.through the back door. But before they did that,

:21:30. > :21:31.they went and bought two litres of petrol,

:21:32. > :21:38.and poured it all over the house, on the floor, over the sofas and up

:21:39. > :21:41.the stairs and everywhere, And then my mum and eldest brother

:21:42. > :21:56.went to try and stop him but he just lit the fuel just in time,

:21:57. > :22:04.and them three there died. Then my sister was calling

:22:05. > :22:10.the police and the fire, I think, and I was still asleep,

:22:11. > :22:15.and by the time they arrived, they charged through,

:22:16. > :22:24.saving me and my sister. Zack was four years old when his

:22:25. > :22:27.mum's new partner broke into the family home

:22:28. > :22:32.and set it on fire. Zack survived, along

:22:33. > :22:34.with his half sister Kay-Lynn, His mum, Tracy, and 15-year-old half

:22:35. > :22:38.brother, Sean, were killed. Zack's dad Rick remembers

:22:39. > :22:45.the night of the fire. All control went, what went

:22:46. > :22:56.through my head was, what's happened, what sort of state

:22:57. > :22:59.is he in, is he going to survive? Same with the others,

:23:00. > :23:01.Kay-Lynn and Sean and Tracy. Zack was taken to a children's

:23:02. > :23:04.hospital for treatment. Heartbreaking,

:23:05. > :23:08.absolutely heartbreaking. He had wires and tubes

:23:09. > :23:10.and things coming out They'd put him into an enduced coma

:23:11. > :23:19.at this point to help his body deal with the shock and the burns

:23:20. > :23:26.as best as possible. About 20% burns, mainly to his arms,

:23:27. > :23:38.up to about T-shirt length. And you've got to cover

:23:39. > :23:41.your arms in this cream? When I found out who died,

:23:42. > :23:50.I was crying, and when I think Zack is now nine and

:23:51. > :23:58.living with his dad. He loves football, especially

:23:59. > :24:01.Manchester United, but the scars Not mean things, but just, like,

:24:02. > :24:14.if somebody's never seen me before, And then I would either describe,

:24:15. > :24:23.or just ignore them. And then, like, two minutes

:24:24. > :24:25.later, they'll say, And then that's what makes me

:24:26. > :24:39.think about it, and then What do we do, when you're

:24:40. > :24:47.feeling emotional about it? I think there was a point

:24:48. > :25:16.she said her phone was taken off her in the evening,

:25:17. > :25:19.you know, he was allowed out, but she wasn't,

:25:20. > :25:22.from what I could gather. Just alarm bells there,

:25:23. > :25:27.you know, controlling. In her research, Jane has

:25:28. > :25:29.found trends linking One of the things is the killer's

:25:30. > :25:36.need to control everything And quite often a personality

:25:37. > :25:46.disorder, so very, very self-focused, sees everything

:25:47. > :25:49.in the world as it applies to them, rather than being sensitive

:25:50. > :25:51.to the needs of others. Very often a lack of remorse,

:25:52. > :25:59.which could be because they have a personality disorder,

:26:00. > :26:04.but it could be a kind of self-protecting denial

:26:05. > :26:07.of what they've done. But in a lot of these cases,

:26:08. > :26:12.men will try to commit suicide. I had a phone call on Mother's Day,

:26:13. > :26:18.and they said to me, "I don't know if it is good news

:26:19. > :26:39.or bad news, Denise, but he has hung himself in prison.

:26:40. > :26:42.He's dead." And very, very angry,

:26:43. > :26:45.the fact that he hadn't got to live with this,

:26:46. > :26:48.and I was the one left behind, having to cope,

:26:49. > :26:50.having to learn to cope, To avenge me, because he lost power

:26:51. > :26:58.over me, he lost the control I think he knew he would lose

:26:59. > :27:04.the boys if they came to me. I think he realised the boys

:27:05. > :27:06.would not go back to him. And so if he couldn't have them,

:27:07. > :27:09.he made sure I couldn't Jane has looked at over 300 cases

:27:10. > :27:13.of domestic homicide and believes There are very complex reasons

:27:14. > :27:21.for this, but sometimes children are deliberately focused on,

:27:22. > :27:23.and sometimes they are And I think that sometimes

:27:24. > :27:29.men are losing a sense of who they're supposed to be now,

:27:30. > :27:33.because society has changed so much for them, and I don't

:27:34. > :27:36.think their roles are necessarily They didn't just snap,

:27:37. > :27:46.these things are more often than not planned,

:27:47. > :27:58.and to say that he just snapped makes it sound like there

:27:59. > :28:01.are not things that can be done to predict this,

:28:02. > :28:03.but there is. I would like think of what it

:28:04. > :28:08.would be like if my mum was around, and what house I would be in,

:28:09. > :28:11.either the same house Yes, you think about

:28:12. > :28:16.the practicalities a lot, don't you? You miss having your

:28:17. > :28:18.mum around, don't you? It would be nice to

:28:19. > :28:21.have mum here as well. Like, somebody to, an extra

:28:22. > :28:26.person to accompany me. So all of this has

:28:27. > :28:28.made you two stronger? Do you think it has

:28:29. > :28:35.made us stronger? Denise has managed to move

:28:36. > :28:47.forward with her life. She is now married

:28:48. > :28:49.and has three children. Going all the way back

:28:50. > :28:52.to the beginning when you met him, in that red dress in the working

:28:53. > :28:55.men's club, do you If I turned back the clock

:28:56. > :28:59.and I didn't meet him, I would not have had the seven

:29:00. > :29:02.and eight years that The children may have died,

:29:03. > :29:23.but their memory is never Thank you for your messages as he

:29:24. > :29:27.watched that. Hannah on Facebook said thank goodness I got away from

:29:28. > :29:32.a violent abuser to protect my son and myself, a decade ago, that could

:29:33. > :29:35.have been us. Sadly others have had a taste of it before and since and

:29:36. > :29:41.agencies meant to help and protect it didn't and still haven't. Let's

:29:42. > :29:45.hope this changes in the future for the better. LJ says these are tragic

:29:46. > :29:50.stories, it's a lot to expose children to. Clarence on Twitter

:29:51. > :29:53.says it is heartbreaking regarding domestic, side, kudos for

:29:54. > :29:56.identifying it as a problem of male violence. Thank you for those. Get

:29:57. > :29:58.in touch if you want to. And to watch that film

:29:59. > :30:00.again and share it - you can head to our programme page

:30:01. > :30:02.bbc.co.uk/victoria. In the next hour we will be speaking

:30:03. > :30:05.to Dr Monckton-Smith, a leading criminologist in domestic

:30:06. > :30:08.homicide, to find out more about why people are driven to commit

:30:09. > :30:10.such horrendous crimes A private memorial service

:30:11. > :30:18.is to take place later today for the American acting icons

:30:19. > :30:20.Carrie Fisher and her mother Debbie Reynolds - that comes ahead

:30:21. > :30:23.of a new documentary We'll have more in

:30:24. > :30:26.the next half hour. A new report says children

:30:27. > :30:28.are being left to 'fend for themselves' online -

:30:29. > :30:33.we'll be speaking to a group of schoolchildren

:30:34. > :30:40.about their own experiences. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:30:41. > :30:45.with a summary of today's news. A study has warned that children

:30:46. > :30:48.are being left to "fend for themselves" in the digital world

:30:49. > :30:50.- against dangers such The Children's Commissioner

:30:51. > :30:56.for England, Anne Longfield, says many children and parents

:30:57. > :30:58.are often unaware that personal information and content posted

:30:59. > :31:01.on social media sites can be sold Researchers in Canada have found

:31:02. > :31:07.that people living near major roads appear more likely

:31:08. > :31:11.to develop dementia. They tracked more than two million

:31:12. > :31:16.people in Ontario for signs of the brain disease over

:31:17. > :31:19.the course of 11 years. The scientists suggested air

:31:20. > :31:21.pollution or noisy traffic could contribute to the brain's

:31:22. > :31:26.decline. Migrants should be expected to learn

:31:27. > :31:29.English before coming to the UK, or attend language classes

:31:30. > :31:31.when they arrive, according The cross-party group said speaking

:31:32. > :31:35.English was "the key to full participation

:31:36. > :31:40.in our society and economy". They also said ministers

:31:41. > :31:42.should consider letting different parts of the UK

:31:43. > :31:44.set their own immigration policy. The government said it was spending

:31:45. > :31:46.?20 million on English A record number of new cars

:31:47. > :31:54.were bought in the UK in 2016 - according to the Society

:31:55. > :31:57.of Motor Manufacturers and Traders. That's up more than 2%

:31:58. > :32:09.on the previous year. However, there's a warning that

:32:10. > :32:12.with fleet and private sales now falling, the figures are unlikely

:32:13. > :32:14.to be so strong in 2017. This programme has learnt that

:32:15. > :32:17.a former Crewe Alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing

:32:18. > :32:18.after being suspended Paul McCann worked with young

:32:19. > :32:21.players at the club He was working with the then-manager

:32:22. > :32:25.Dario Gradi, who is now He also later volunteered as a youth

:32:26. > :32:29.coach at non-league club AFC Handwritten letters

:32:30. > :32:37.from Princess Diana are due to be Written to a steward

:32:38. > :32:41.at Buckingham Palace, they reveal that a young

:32:42. > :32:43.Prince Harry was routinely In one letter she wrote -

:32:44. > :32:56."William adores his little brother and spends the entire time swamping

:32:57. > :32:58.Harry with an endless supply of hugs and kisses,

:32:59. > :33:02.hardly letting the parents near!" The collection will be sold over

:33:03. > :33:04.approximately 40 lots - with estimates ranging

:33:05. > :33:06.from ?80 to ?900. The auction also includes letters

:33:07. > :33:08.from the Queen, written That's a summary of the latest BBC

:33:09. > :33:17.News - more at 10.00am. John Watson is here with the sport.

:33:18. > :33:20.Good morning. Tottenham prevented Chelsea from matching the longest

:33:21. > :33:24.consecutive winning run in Premier League history as the blues were

:33:25. > :33:29.beaten 2-0 at White Hart Lane last night to throw open the title race.

:33:30. > :33:33.Dele Alli got both goals with two headers, Chelsea remain five points

:33:34. > :33:41.clear at the top and Tottenham are interred. Andy Murray's winning run

:33:42. > :33:46.continues, extending his consecutive winning run. He is into the

:33:47. > :33:49.quarterfinals after a tough straight sets win over Australian Gerald

:33:50. > :33:54.Melzer as he prepares for the Australian open later this month.

:33:55. > :33:58.The world number one is yet to win one of these titles. Johanna Konta's

:33:59. > :34:02.good run of form continues, one win away from reaching her third WTA

:34:03. > :34:07.final, she beat her competitor Kristyna Pliskova in the finals of

:34:08. > :34:08.the Shenzhen Open in China. That's all of the sport now, more in the

:34:09. > :34:16.next update at ten o'clock. Children are being left

:34:17. > :34:18.by their parents to 'fend for themselves' online according

:34:19. > :34:20.to the Children's In a report today, Anne Longfield

:34:21. > :34:23.says parents 'vainly hope' their kids will benefit

:34:24. > :34:25.from the internet's opportunities She also says it's 'wholly

:34:26. > :34:28.irresponsible' to let children and young teeenagers 'roam

:34:29. > :34:30.in a world for which Last year, 3-4 year olds spent

:34:31. > :34:39.on average eight hours 18 minutes a week online, and 12-15 year

:34:40. > :34:42.olds spend over 20 hours And there's a warning too that

:34:43. > :34:46.youngsters have no idea they often sign away their privacy

:34:47. > :34:50.when they join social media sites - rules in Instagram's terms

:34:51. > :34:52.and conditions for example, allow youngsters' messages amd

:34:53. > :34:54.pictures to be bought and sold by the web companies who can then

:34:55. > :35:02.target them for advertising. The Children's Commissioner

:35:03. > :35:04.is calling for simplified terms and conditions and compulsary

:35:05. > :35:15.digital citizenship Your own experiences are welcome and

:35:16. > :35:16.how you manage to make sure that your job and are safe online, let us

:35:17. > :35:17.know. Anne Longfield is here along

:35:18. > :35:19.with various primary From Whitefield School -

:35:20. > :35:22.Guy is in Year ten, Beth is in Year ten,

:35:23. > :35:25.Zara is in Year nine, Shinia is in Year 11 - they're

:35:26. > :35:28.here with their teacher Darren Also here from Tetherdown Primary

:35:29. > :35:32.School are Year 5s Eli, Catrin, Safia and Matteo

:35:33. > :35:41.and his mum Katherine. Thank you for coming onto the

:35:42. > :35:49.programme. A general question, raise your hands, if it is like being at

:35:50. > :35:56.school, I am sorry, who here has Snapchat? How old are you? I am ten.

:35:57. > :36:05.Did you know that you had to be 13 to have it? Yes. That's interesting!

:36:06. > :36:13.Who has Facebook, Instagram? Twitter? Again, you are meant to be

:36:14. > :36:17.13 for Instagram, and twitter... When you go online, are you

:36:18. > :36:24.concerned about anything, or are you just having a great time playing

:36:25. > :36:32.games or speaking to your friends? There is nothing that concerns you

:36:33. > :36:36.in terms of your safety? I keep all of my accounts private, unless I

:36:37. > :36:43.would like somebody to see it, then I keep it private. Mine is Private,

:36:44. > :36:52.I know what I put. Beth, you are the same? Everything is Private? And you

:36:53. > :36:56.only have one account. Not two? They always advertise it looking very

:36:57. > :37:02.safe, and having features of private accounts on Instagram, so it makes

:37:03. > :37:10.it look safe, so yes. Do you think that you are unusual in keeping all

:37:11. > :37:15.of your accounts private? No. A lot of people do it. All of my friends

:37:16. > :37:22.have all of their stuff Private. OK, and what are your worries, Anne, as

:37:23. > :37:26.Children's Commissioner. Firstly, the Internet is a force of good,

:37:27. > :37:30.while we talk about protection it is also about empowering children to

:37:31. > :37:33.get the most out of it. But it was not designed for children and over

:37:34. > :37:39.the last five or six years, it's become a big issue, one third of

:37:40. > :37:42.users are children. And in the clip as you said, children are

:37:43. > :37:45.ill-prepared and do not have knowledge about how the Internet

:37:46. > :37:50.works or the social rules that could be online. Often they do not have

:37:51. > :37:55.the information, especially regarding privacy and terms and

:37:56. > :38:01.conditions will rule that, they are largely unfathomable. They do not

:38:02. > :38:04.have the back-up to do something about if something goes wrong.

:38:05. > :38:10.Really, the balance of power is very much geared away from children on

:38:11. > :38:13.the Internet, and we know that half of children's leisure time, for

:38:14. > :38:20.teenagers, it's online. It is out of sync with their physical world and

:38:21. > :38:22.needs to change in terms of improving their rights. Is there

:38:23. > :38:28.anything that Anne Longfield has said which worries you? I do not get

:38:29. > :38:33.the impression that you are worried at all! I am slowly concerned, we

:38:34. > :38:38.feel so safe in what we are doing online and we know that it is ours

:38:39. > :38:42.but you said, of course, -- slightly concerned. You said that we are

:38:43. > :38:47.almost the underdogs, these big giants have power on us. I think

:38:48. > :38:53.what you do have is an environment which is largely unregulated. And,

:38:54. > :38:58.it is controlled by a feud very powerful companies. So, whether they

:38:59. > :39:01.have set out with intent or not, that is where you are. And it is

:39:02. > :39:09.ruled by terms and conditions which you have probably never read and

:39:10. > :39:14.would not understand if you did. Including adults, have you ever read

:39:15. > :39:20.the terms and conditions? Matty O, did you understand them? Yes. And I

:39:21. > :39:28.got my mum to check, she always checks. And you all clicked that you

:39:29. > :39:31.agree at the end? Yes. And you say that you understand them, what do

:39:32. > :39:38.you understand by the terms and conditions? Say if it is using

:39:39. > :39:43.social media, I understand where the privacy settings are sometimes. And

:39:44. > :39:51.my mum has two check them over. She only knows the password. Are you on

:39:52. > :39:59.Instagram? Do you know that they can buy and sell your information? Yes.

:40:00. > :40:03.I put my account on private. Does that stop a company from buying or

:40:04. > :40:07.selling those images, Jenny Afia? No, they can do what they want and

:40:08. > :40:11.get them to other companies and so one. But it means other people,

:40:12. > :40:15.members of the public, they cannot look at them but companies behind

:40:16. > :40:20.websites know everything about you. What do they know? Explain what they

:40:21. > :40:24.know about primary and secondary school children? Any information

:40:25. > :40:29.that you give them, so how often you go on the website, they are tracking

:40:30. > :40:33.you, even when you are not on it. If it is on your phone, they are

:40:34. > :40:37.monitoring you. They have your name, they have your e-mail address, they

:40:38. > :40:40.know what you like, they have been reading all of your private messages

:40:41. > :40:46.to one another and any concerns expressed privately, any other

:40:47. > :40:50.websites that you have gone too from there, and any products which you

:40:51. > :40:55.have liked, they are keeping records of all of that information. Are you

:40:56. > :41:01.really saying that there is someone at Facebook reading the messages of

:41:02. > :41:06.Sara, when she is working out with her friends what she will be wearing

:41:07. > :41:09.to a party on Friday night? I do not think there is one person there

:41:10. > :41:13.going through your messages but they will be looking at broad patterns to

:41:14. > :41:18.see how they can make money from all of us, and how other people will be

:41:19. > :41:22.interested in what you are doing and they will group information together

:41:23. > :41:29.and get money from it. What do you think of that? That's kind of scary,

:41:30. > :41:33.to be honest. Just the fact that they know what you are saying and

:41:34. > :41:39.what you are doing. It is kind of creepy. What do you think of that? I

:41:40. > :41:44.do not like it. It is basically like they can see what you are doing. As

:41:45. > :41:52.long as you carry your phone with you. And if we click that we agree

:41:53. > :41:55.on terms and conditions, we are giving them permission.

:41:56. > :42:04.As a mum, what are your concerns? As a mother and as a user, I'm deeply

:42:05. > :42:10.shocked that we have reached this point, I think that we have lost our

:42:11. > :42:14.own sense of what we should be passing on to our kids. The fact

:42:15. > :42:19.that we do not realise that privacy does not actually mean that, that is

:42:20. > :42:25.pretty... I'm sure a lot of people are not aware of that. I was not

:42:26. > :42:29.aware. And I see people, friends of mine, on Facebook, posting all kinds

:42:30. > :42:37.of images of their family, images of themselves, and images that, as a

:42:38. > :42:40.parent, and some teachers that you will see, they put images of

:42:41. > :42:48.themselves getting drunk, I don't know, it is not great modelling. It

:42:49. > :42:52.seems like we are giving kids access to something that they perceive as a

:42:53. > :43:00.toy and instead it is a hand grenade... My phone is ringing! I am

:43:01. > :43:06.so sorry. I was meant to put it on silent! I know that you play games

:43:07. > :43:11.online, Matteo, people that you do not know but you have no reason to

:43:12. > :43:15.suspect them, but you had some and kind messages, I think? Because I

:43:16. > :43:25.play games where messaging is not the main part of it, there are other

:43:26. > :43:29.parts to it, umm.. It is like a drawing game, you get a word of

:43:30. > :43:33.something that you have to draw and the other person will get it. I

:43:34. > :43:42.think they could not guess what I drew, and somebody called me a

:43:43. > :43:48.a-hole. I was really upset so I told my mum straightaway. And what could

:43:49. > :43:53.you do? Nothing really. Block the person and I felt extremely guilty

:43:54. > :43:58.that he was exposed to that. I have seen my 13-year-old son who thinks

:43:59. > :44:05.that his peer group are seeing the kind of trouble that others are

:44:06. > :44:11.getting into, they are not aware of their digital footprint. Can I just

:44:12. > :44:15.talk about the other issue that you raised in your report today, Anne?

:44:16. > :44:20.The length of time that people are on average spending online. Between

:44:21. > :44:24.the ages of three and four, on average you spend eight hours 18

:44:25. > :44:29.minutes online, according to Anne's report, and between 12 and 15, it is

:44:30. > :44:34.20 hours on average. Is that not enough? Too much? Are

:44:35. > :44:39.you always drawn to your phone when there is nothing to do? Is that your

:44:40. > :44:44.default position? I think it is too much, to be honest. When you are on

:44:45. > :44:51.social media for too long, you feel bored. I personally feel that there

:44:52. > :44:58.is no point at the end. There is no point in me wasting time on it...

:44:59. > :45:06.When do you reach that feeling, how long are you on it? A couple of

:45:07. > :45:11.hours, to be honest. But it is spread out through the day. And what

:45:12. > :45:18.about your daily habits, Beth? How often a day are you online? A couple

:45:19. > :45:22.of hours. Same as you, but not in one go. If I finish my homework or

:45:23. > :45:25.something, the first thing I think those doing my phone to check if I

:45:26. > :45:32.have any messages... And your parents the same? No, they aren't.

:45:33. > :45:43.Is anybody on for more than three hours per day? Yeah... Darren, as a

:45:44. > :45:48.teacher, where do the schools coming on this? According to Anne's report,

:45:49. > :45:52.parents are being reasonably responsible in the kind of access we

:45:53. > :45:57.give our kids when it comes to being online... We have safety policies

:45:58. > :46:03.for safety agricultural drunk and students, from year seven day are

:46:04. > :46:07.taught in ICT lessons... -- safety policies for students.

:46:08. > :46:11.You need to be careful of what is online and tort of the dangers,

:46:12. > :46:17.teachers are held to safety policies in terms of our accounts. At the

:46:18. > :46:19.same time, some of them may choose to ignore it because they would like

:46:20. > :46:26.more followers. Often you do not think it applies to

:46:27. > :46:30.you because you feel in control of what you are doing online, you think

:46:31. > :46:36.you are kind of invincible. Most of the time that will be true but on

:46:37. > :46:43.the odd occasion you may be subject to bullying, you know, grooming, etc

:46:44. > :46:49.etc. What do you think of Anne Longfield's idea of teaching

:46:50. > :46:54.compulsory citizenship lessons? It is included in the scheme of

:46:55. > :46:59.learning for years seven and we do refresher assemblies throughout the

:47:00. > :47:02.years. From the age of four, you suggest, Anne Longfield. Yes and

:47:03. > :47:06.there is an emphasis on safety and protection which is important, but

:47:07. > :47:11.given this is really now a part ingrained in every part of young

:47:12. > :47:15.people's lives this is about empowering children as well. So how

:47:16. > :47:20.to be a good digital citizen, how to notice if somebody is a real person

:47:21. > :47:24.or a fake person, or how to understand how to react to adverts

:47:25. > :47:27.if they are targeted towards you. And the discussions we've had about

:47:28. > :47:32.terms and conditions, that is something children should all know.

:47:33. > :47:37.You are calling for them to be really simplified. They should be

:47:38. > :47:41.very transparent. That would be incredibly helpful. As a mum, Katie,

:47:42. > :47:47.terms of compulsory lessons from the age of four about how to behave

:47:48. > :47:50.online and manage it, what would you say? Absolutely, and I'm right about

:47:51. > :47:56.parenting and keep banging on about the fact that there is no mandatory

:47:57. > :48:02.sex and relationship education and it has to be seen within that

:48:03. > :48:06.context that it's a relationship you're having with other, often,

:48:07. > :48:09.people you don't know, it's going to be a relationship you are having

:48:10. > :48:14.with human resources who are going through your history to see whether

:48:15. > :48:18.you are a good bet for the company. There is so much that people don't

:48:19. > :48:23.know and we are still as a generation, us lot, incredibly

:48:24. > :48:30.squeamish about the subject and we are failing them. You think we are?

:48:31. > :48:33.Big time. As a privacy law expert, Jenny, would you welcome compulsory

:48:34. > :48:38.lessons from the age of four circuits know what they are doing?

:48:39. > :48:40.Absolutely, we've had a lot of education about safety and the

:48:41. > :48:44.debate about the Internet always gets tied up with safety and that is

:48:45. > :48:49.obviously important, but the debate in the education needs to move on

:48:50. > :48:52.now so that young people in particular understand technology and

:48:53. > :48:56.how it works. For example, knowing that when you are online for three

:48:57. > :49:00.hours a day it's because there is technology built in, they are called

:49:01. > :49:04.sticky sites that are designed just to hook you in and keep you on your

:49:05. > :49:09.phone so that you keep looking at the advertising content and so on. I

:49:10. > :49:12.don't think enough parents and children realise that. That's the

:49:13. > :49:15.point plenty of the audience is making this morning, the fact you

:49:16. > :49:19.all know much more than your periods know. Also raised most kids

:49:20. > :49:23.understand how the Internet works better than adults. Privacy is a

:49:24. > :49:28.generational issue, parents will teach children Web safety. When you

:49:29. > :49:32.became parents you will become savvy in a way that I am not and you are

:49:33. > :49:36.not Katie. Ben says three to four-year-olds, eight hours online,

:49:37. > :49:40.it is disgraceful and shows parents just want quiet out of the way kids.

:49:41. > :49:46.Ed says kids on your programme today holding their own on the online

:49:47. > :49:49.privacy issue. I know that some of your parents monitor your social

:49:50. > :49:52.media sites. Is that part of the deal for you having access to

:49:53. > :49:59.Facebook, Twitter and Instagram? Yes. Are you happy with that? Yes, I

:50:00. > :50:03.don't mind. Would you go further, would you welcome the fact they look

:50:04. > :50:07.at what you are saying to your mates and what other people say to you? I

:50:08. > :50:13.think it is good because then it makes sure you don't do anything

:50:14. > :50:17.bad, your parents are checking your phone and that you are safe. We

:50:18. > :50:21.often walk into situations blindfolded, whereas, for example,

:50:22. > :50:26.Al parents will be able to take a step back and look at what we are

:50:27. > :50:31.going into, you know? OK. Thank you for coming on, all of you. Thank

:50:32. > :50:36.you, thank you, thank you. That was somebody from Manchester Arena in if

:50:37. > :50:44.you are interested. Your views are welcome, get in touch.

:50:45. > :50:48.Could living near a busy road increase your risk

:50:49. > :50:52.We'll be examining new research which says that could be the case.

:50:53. > :50:55.So little is known about the causes of dementia.

:50:56. > :50:57.Next this morning - this programme has learnt that

:50:58. > :50:59.a former youth coach for Crewe Alexandra football club

:51:00. > :51:04.Paul McCann worked closely with Crewe's then manager and now

:51:05. > :51:08.director of football Dario Gardi who has also been

:51:09. > :51:10.director of football Dario Gradi who has also been

:51:11. > :51:13.Mr McCann says he will co-operate with any investigation.

:51:14. > :51:23.Paul McCann was a coach at Crewe in the 1980s and at one stage she was

:51:24. > :51:27.in charge of the youth team and also in charge of the beating, or reserve

:51:28. > :51:31.team at one point. This was on a voluntary basis, he was never paid

:51:32. > :51:37.for his work at the club, that was a common situation in the 1980s. We

:51:38. > :51:40.have read a book, A History Of Crewe where he is described as a

:51:41. > :51:44.long-standing member of the club, a stalwart and a key member of the

:51:45. > :51:49.youth team and reserve team. He left the club in the 90s, why was that?

:51:50. > :51:52.He left in 1991, he had a job outside football that took abroad to

:51:53. > :51:57.the Netherlands and then Australia. He came back to the UK, the same

:51:58. > :51:59.area, seven or eight years later. He didn't go back to Crewe but

:52:00. > :52:05.maintained an interest in football and was awarded his Uefa a coaching

:52:06. > :52:09.lessons, a serious qualification, allowing you to manage or coach any

:52:10. > :52:13.team up to just underneath premiership level. He never used a

:52:14. > :52:20.qualification to work professionally but in 2014 he was assisted as a

:52:21. > :52:25.youth team manager at AFC badminton on Merseyside which ended after a

:52:26. > :52:28.year in 2015 when the team was disbanded -- AFC Bebington. Back

:52:29. > :52:33.coaching licence has now been suspended? It has been suspended by

:52:34. > :52:36.the Football Association, not by the Cheshire FA but the safeguarding

:52:37. > :52:40.board of the FA in London. It means he may not work in any capacity in

:52:41. > :52:45.football until the suspension was lifted. Officially the FA will not

:52:46. > :52:50.confirm the suspension or tell us what he is suspended, it is

:52:51. > :52:53.confidential information. What did Paul McCann say? He confirmed he has

:52:54. > :52:57.been suspended and we understand he will cooperate with any

:52:58. > :52:59.investigation and we understand he denies any wrongdoing. He told the

:53:00. > :53:04.Guardian newspaper this morning that he thinks he is collateral damage in

:53:05. > :53:09.all of this. He is the second person suspended by the FA that is linked

:53:10. > :53:13.to Crewe Alexandra football club. The current director of football and

:53:14. > :53:16.long-time manager Dario Gradi has also been suspended, this was back

:53:17. > :53:20.in November. The Football Association will not tell us why

:53:21. > :53:24.that was. Dario Gradi has denied any wrongdoing and said he will

:53:25. > :53:28.cooperate fully with any investigation. Thank you, Jim Reed

:53:29. > :53:31.reporting. A private memorial service will take place later today

:53:32. > :53:38.for American acting icons Carrie Fisher and her mum Debbie Reynolds.

:53:39. > :53:40.Family members and close friends will attend.

:53:41. > :53:42.60-year-old Carrie Fisher died last Tuesday after suffering cardiac

:53:43. > :53:44.arrest on a plane travelling from London to Los Angeles.

:53:45. > :53:48.The next day, her mother - Debbie Reynolds - died from a stroke

:53:49. > :53:53.Her son, Carrie's brother, Todd Fisher,

:53:54. > :53:56.says she died of a "broken heart" following her daughter's death.

:53:57. > :53:58.The pair had been taking part in a HBO documentary

:53:59. > :54:03.which airs this weekend - here's an extract from it.

:54:04. > :54:07.That's from when they first invented cellphones.

:54:08. > :54:17.I have to go and start rehearsals for Star Wars seven...

:54:18. > :54:27.I'm concerned because my mother is not feeling well.

:54:28. > :54:33.That's what's good about losing your memory.

:54:34. > :54:37.It's like the old days in a way but I'm like the old days, so...

:54:38. > :54:39.My family in particular can overwhelm

:54:40. > :54:42.It wasn't just my mother that was super famous.

:54:43. > :54:47.They were the couple of America, one heck of a

:54:48. > :54:54.My mother, she'll forget she's not 35.

:54:55. > :54:57.Age is horrible for all of us but she falls from a

:54:58. > :55:07.That was not diagnosed then so nobody kind of knew what was

:55:08. > :55:12.I went too fast, I was too much, I couldn't

:55:13. > :55:20.Turn around this way because your rear end is to the camera.

:55:21. > :55:33.Far more than I ever would want to, I

:55:34. > :55:37.Just do what your mother says, it makes life easier.

:55:38. > :55:51.Here's a reminder of some of their most iconic films.

:55:52. > :55:57.# Singing in the rain # Just singing in the rain.

:55:58. > :56:03.# What the hell are you doing?

:56:04. > :56:10.I recognised your foul stench when I was brought on board.

:56:11. > :56:19.My personal life is always sort of like this, and I think I can, I

:56:20. > :56:24.think I can, and I seem to marry poorly, I have no taste in men.

:56:25. > :56:28.Luckily for me Gareth is good and I have two wonderful children.

:56:29. > :56:43.The Imperial Senate will not stand for this. When they hear...

:56:44. > :56:54.I'm very excited about being back. I've never been happy since I left.

:56:55. > :57:00.She wants to live in England. Swiss Cottage. I keep buying her tickets

:57:01. > :57:03.and she hasn't moved yet. Now I'm going to come.

:57:04. > :57:06.Before 11am we will speak to Warwick Davis who starred with Carrie Fisher

:57:07. > :57:09.in Star Wars and described her as an iconic figure but at the same time a

:57:10. > :57:10.down-to-earth person who just enjoyed living.

:57:11. > :57:19.That is in the next hour. The latest news and sport in a second but first

:57:20. > :57:28.the weather. Wasn't it cold this morning. I have lovely pictures from

:57:29. > :57:32.our weather Watchers. This is in Cheshire, look at the frost on the

:57:33. > :57:36.ground. London, northward, frosty but beautiful start to the day and

:57:37. > :57:42.the temperatures, well, the lowest temperature was in Benson in

:57:43. > :57:49.Oxfordshire, minus 8.1 Celsius, the coldest night in England of the

:57:50. > :57:54.winter so far. In time-honoured state in Scotland, -8, -7, -4, and a

:57:55. > :57:58.bit higher in Belfast and St Mary's because we have a weather front

:57:59. > :58:02.there. For most of us it is a frosty start, in the shade you will hang on

:58:03. > :58:05.to the frost for much of the day but lots of us won't be, we will enjoy

:58:06. > :58:09.wintry sunshine. High-pressure is in charge of the weather, here is the

:58:10. > :58:11.weather front producing cloud in Northern Ireland, the far south-west

:58:12. > :58:16.of Wales and south-west England. Here are the temperatures which have

:58:17. > :58:22.kept up as we have gone through the night. A lot of sunshine. Cold,

:58:23. > :58:25.crisp, winter sunshine with light breezes, along the east coast of

:58:26. > :58:28.England at times you might find a little more cloud which could

:58:29. > :58:32.produce the odd shower but most of us will miss them. More cloud

:58:33. > :58:34.towards the west and with an approaching weather front coming in

:58:35. > :58:39.towards north-west Scotland you will find more cloud building through the

:58:40. > :58:42.afternoon, so in the Northwest the sunshine will be hazy. In Northern

:58:43. > :58:46.Ireland are you are under the influence of weather fronts so

:58:47. > :58:51.mostly cloudy, some sunny spells but for the bulk of England and Wales we

:58:52. > :58:54.are looking at a fine afternoon, cold, mind you, with lots of

:58:55. > :58:58.sunshine. Except in the south-west where you might find the odd splash

:58:59. > :59:02.of rain coming your way. Through the evening and overnight you can see

:59:03. > :59:05.the blue hues on the chart, it means it will be cold and frosty again,

:59:06. > :59:09.but as cloud advances from the north-west some of the frost will

:59:10. > :59:13.lift, not so pushing down into the south-eastern quarter of the UK

:59:14. > :59:17.where it will be frosty, cold obviously, and we will have freezing

:59:18. > :59:22.fog patches. Maybe not just across East Anglia and Southeast, we could

:59:23. > :59:24.see some further west. Meanwhile, the band of rain careers across

:59:25. > :59:27.Scotland and Northern Ireland, getting into north-west England and

:59:28. > :59:32.north-west Wales by the end of the night. Tomorrow the weather fronts

:59:33. > :59:36.will continue their descent south-eastwards bringing rain with

:59:37. > :59:41.them, the cloud building ahead of them. Where you have the freezing

:59:42. > :59:45.fog it will slowly lift, a lot of it into low cloud. Across the far

:59:46. > :59:51.south-east tomorrow it will be quite grey, dank and feel cold. As the

:59:52. > :59:55.rain move south, behind it we see a return to brighter skies, hill fog

:59:56. > :59:59.and some showers. The main thing you will notice is it is going to be

:00:00. > :00:03.mild, except for where we have the low cloud in the south-east.

:00:04. > :00:12.Our top story - The Children's Commissioner for England

:00:13. > :00:16.tells this programme - children are often

:00:17. > :00:18.ill-prepared to deal with potential pitfalls online,

:00:19. > :00:20.amid concerns young people are being left to 'fend for themselves'.

:00:21. > :00:27.You have an environment which is largely unregulated, and it is

:00:28. > :00:32.controlled by a feud very powerful companies. So whether they set out

:00:33. > :00:38.with intent or not, that is where you are -- a few. And it is ruled by

:00:39. > :00:43.terms and conditions that you have probably never read and would

:00:44. > :00:47.probably not understand even if you did. Schoolchildren have told us

:00:48. > :00:53.this morning that some spend about three hours a day online, but were

:00:54. > :01:00.quite happy that parents monitored their activities online. Also

:01:01. > :01:01.today... The men who murdered their families, we speak to those

:01:02. > :01:03.affected. Those are the things

:01:04. > :01:06.I have to live with now. Even though it has

:01:07. > :01:08.been 14 years, I have bad dreams and all of the things

:01:09. > :01:23.that you have experienced... And over Christmas week, two rough

:01:24. > :01:27.sleepers died on the streets in one Kent town.

:01:28. > :01:34.How did that happen in the 21st-century? We have a look.

:01:35. > :01:40.Here's Anita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:01:41. > :01:43.A study has warned that children are being left to "fend

:01:44. > :01:45.for themselves" in the digital world against dangers such

:01:46. > :01:48.The Children's Commissioner for England, Anne Longfield,

:01:49. > :01:50.says many children and parents are often unaware that personal

:01:51. > :01:53.information and content posted on social media sites can be sold

:01:54. > :02:02.Children are often ill-prepared, they do not have knowledge about how

:02:03. > :02:08.the Internet works or the social rules that could be online. Often

:02:09. > :02:11.they do not have the information, especially regarding privacy, and

:02:12. > :02:15.terms and conditions ruled that, they are largely unfathomable. They

:02:16. > :02:19.do not have the back-up to be able to do something about it, if

:02:20. > :02:21.something goes wrong. Researchers in Canada have found

:02:22. > :02:23.that people living near major roads appear more likely

:02:24. > :02:31.to develop dementia. They tracked more than two million

:02:32. > :02:33.people in Ontario for signs of the brain disease over the course

:02:34. > :02:36.of eleven years. The scientists suggested air

:02:37. > :02:38.pollution or noisy traffic could contribute to the brain's

:02:39. > :02:41.decline. The Turkish government say the man

:02:42. > :02:44.behind the New Year's Day gun attack in Istanbul may have

:02:45. > :02:46.left the country. 39 people were killed in the attack

:02:47. > :02:48.at the Reina nightclub Deputy Prime Minister told

:02:49. > :02:54.a Turkish broadcaster that the killer was of Uighur

:02:55. > :02:57.origin and that the gunman acted alone but may have

:02:58. > :02:59.been helped by others. A record number of new cars

:03:00. > :03:03.were bought in the UK in 2016 - according to the Society

:03:04. > :03:05.of Motor Manufacturers and Traders. Sales hit 2.69 million -

:03:06. > :03:17.that's up more than 2% However, with sales growth now

:03:18. > :03:18.falling, the industry is not expecting such strong figures in

:03:19. > :03:22.2017. This programme has learnt that

:03:23. > :03:25.a former Crewe Alexandra coach has denied wrongdoing

:03:26. > :03:26.after being suspended Paul McCann worked with young

:03:27. > :03:36.players at the club He was working with the then-manager

:03:37. > :03:39.Dario Gradi, who is now He also later volunteered as a youth

:03:40. > :03:43.coach at non-league club AFC Handwritten letters

:03:44. > :03:47.from Princess Diana are due to be Written to a steward

:03:48. > :03:49.at Buckingham Palace, they reveal that a young

:03:50. > :03:59.Prince Harry was routinely In one letter she described being

:04:00. > :04:00.totally overwhelmed by the number of flowers she received after Prince

:04:01. > :04:05.Harry's birth. The collection will be sold over

:04:06. > :04:07.approximately 40 lots - with estimates ranging

:04:08. > :04:09.from ?80 to ?900. The auction also includes

:04:10. > :04:11.letters from the Queen, written on Windsor Castle headed

:04:12. > :04:13.paper. A five-month-old baby elephant has

:04:14. > :04:16.been taking a dip in a swimming pool in Thailand as part of a lengthy

:04:17. > :04:18.rehabilitation process Baby Fah Jam's front left leg

:04:19. > :04:25.was caught in a trap set by local villagers in November -

:04:26. > :04:28.But although the wound and her health improved significantly,

:04:29. > :04:30.she refused to put any weight The treatment - which is being

:04:31. > :04:35.undertaken so she can avoid having to use a a prosthetic leg -

:04:36. > :04:39.could take up to two months. That's a summary of the latest BBC

:04:40. > :04:46.News - more at 10.30. Do get in touch with us

:04:47. > :04:50.throughout the morning - use the #VictoriaLIVE

:04:51. > :04:53.and if you text, you will be charged Here's some sport now with JOHN,

:04:54. > :04:57.and the Premier League title chase John is here with all of the

:04:58. > :05:04.sport... The Premier League title

:05:05. > :05:06.race is hotting up. Tottenham prevented Chelsea

:05:07. > :05:07.from matching the longest consecutive winning run in PL

:05:08. > :05:13.history which stands at 14 matches. The Blues were beaten 2-0

:05:14. > :05:15.at White Hart Lane last night, both goals coming from midfielder

:05:16. > :05:17.Dele Alli. Before the game his manager

:05:18. > :05:19.Mauricio Pochettino called him the most important player to emerge

:05:20. > :05:22.in English Football in recent years. And Alli responded,

:05:23. > :05:23.helping Tottenham to their fifth straight win

:05:24. > :05:26.So Tottenham are up third, but Chelsea remain five points clear

:05:27. > :05:30.at the top. For the boys, there was no need to

:05:31. > :05:33.talk before the game, everybody knew how big it was for the players and

:05:34. > :05:37.the fans come could see from the first whistle how badly the fans

:05:38. > :05:42.wanted to win as well. It was nice to score but it was more important

:05:43. > :05:44.to get the win today. Tottenham are in third place, Chelsea remain five

:05:45. > :05:46.points clear at the top. And despite seeing his side slip

:05:47. > :05:49.to their first league defeat since September,

:05:50. > :05:50.Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is confident his side can

:05:51. > :06:04.continue their recent good run. It is a pity, but it is important to

:06:05. > :06:06.know that this can happen. It is important now to continue to work

:06:07. > :06:10.very hard, to improve every day. It's now a career best 26

:06:11. > :06:14.competitive matches in a row he's won after beating Gerald Melzer

:06:15. > :06:16.to reach the Quarter Final's The World Number One

:06:17. > :06:21.was made to work hard - he was taken to a tie break

:06:22. > :06:24.in the first set against the Austrian -

:06:25. > :06:32.but took it 7-6 and the second 7-5. As he continues his preparation

:06:33. > :06:37.for the Australian Open later this month, he's reached the final five

:06:38. > :06:40.times in Melbourne, Johanna Konta's good

:06:41. > :06:43.form continues as well. She is one win away from her third

:06:44. > :06:46.WTA Final after victory over Krystina Pliskova in the Semi Finals

:06:47. > :06:49.of the Shenzen Open in China. And Paralympic champion Kadeena Cox,

:06:50. > :06:57.has defended her decision, to take part in the Channel 4

:06:58. > :07:02.reality show, The Jump. UK Sport have suspended her funding

:07:03. > :07:04.while she takes part A number of celebrities have been

:07:05. > :07:11.injured in previous series. On social media, Cox

:07:12. > :07:15.said her diagnosis, of MS, had changed her outlook on life,

:07:16. > :07:18.saying her life is a ticking time bomb, and that she was going to go

:07:19. > :07:24.away and enjoy ski-ing. I'll be back at half

:07:25. > :07:29.past with the latest. People who live near major roads

:07:30. > :07:36.have higher rates of Alzheimers and other forms of dementia,

:07:37. > :07:39.research published in the medical At the moment, very little is known

:07:40. > :07:50.about the causes of dementia. Lets talk to our various guests who

:07:51. > :07:51.we have here... I am waiting for their names!

:07:52. > :07:53.With us in the studio is Dr James Pickett, head

:07:54. > :07:56.of research at Alzheimer's Society, and in our Glasgow newsroom

:07:57. > :07:58.is Professor June Andrews from Stirling University,

:07:59. > :08:02.who's the author of Dementia - The One-Stop Guide.

:08:03. > :08:12.Doctor James, this is not as simple as headlines would suggest, can you

:08:13. > :08:16.and pick this for our audience? Yes, causes of dementia of extreme

:08:17. > :08:19.interest but very complicated. We know there are things we are born

:08:20. > :08:26.with, genetics play a role but there are things which we have control

:08:27. > :08:29.over, like diet and lifestyle. What we are beginning to learn, the new

:08:30. > :08:37.area, is how the environment and where we live plays a role as well.

:08:38. > :08:43.This single study is beginning early research in a big study beginning to

:08:44. > :08:48.unpick that for us. June, does this study mean that if you move near a

:08:49. > :08:52.major road, with traffic noise and air pollution, you are more likely

:08:53. > :08:56.to get dementia? If you move to the countryside you are less likely? It

:08:57. > :09:01.is really important that nobody moves house on the basis of the

:09:02. > :09:06.study. What it does is it reinforces things we've known for quite a long

:09:07. > :09:09.time. Although the origins of dementia are quite complicated, it

:09:10. > :09:14.is quite clear that air quality, where you live, makes a difference

:09:15. > :09:18.to how well you are. That's a quality inside of a care home or a

:09:19. > :09:23.house. It is unsurprising that environmental air quality, the kind

:09:24. > :09:27.of thing an issue near a main road, will make a difference. There is

:09:28. > :09:33.research indicating this but there is no need to move house on the back

:09:34. > :09:38.of this? Why not? There are things that can make more of a difference

:09:39. > :09:41.than the place you live. Exercise makes a difference and what you eat

:09:42. > :09:46.and drink, staying well hydrated and even temperature in your home can

:09:47. > :09:50.make a difference. Moving house is such a huge turmoil for people that

:09:51. > :09:54.if you are already affected by dementia, moving house itself can

:09:55. > :09:58.make things worse. It is important not to overreact to this one piece

:09:59. > :10:04.of research showing there is an association, that is not necessarily

:10:05. > :10:07.causal. That is very important. We are not saying that if you moved by

:10:08. > :10:12.that road, you will get dementia, but what we are saying is that you

:10:13. > :10:17.may be more likely to get dementia, or people who are more likely to get

:10:18. > :10:22.dementia live by busy roads. That's correct. Yes, air pollution could be

:10:23. > :10:29.one factor, disturbance and we know that sleep is important, disturbance

:10:30. > :10:33.in sleep and stress could have a role but there are reasons, as Jean

:10:34. > :10:37.says, you cannot link one thing to the other. The study does not show

:10:38. > :10:45.that moving away from the road reduces risk but the evidence

:10:46. > :10:51.suggests that people who grew up in the country are at higher risk than

:10:52. > :10:55.those who grew up in urban environments. We are learning single

:10:56. > :10:58.pieces of information but we had to take a bigger picture of all of the

:10:59. > :11:02.evidence. There are hundreds of things you do in your life, some of

:11:03. > :11:06.the things you know about, which increase your risk, others which

:11:07. > :11:14.reduce it. It is the whole footprint across your life. I agree with

:11:15. > :11:18.James, one of the things to do is to look at what you can do which will

:11:19. > :11:22.make the biggest difference. Some of the things include rest, which is

:11:23. > :11:26.really hard to get a proper sleep if you are living near a noisy road.

:11:27. > :11:30.There are things that you can do to improve the chances of someone

:11:31. > :11:33.sleeping well when they have dementia, dementia is self is a

:11:34. > :11:36.symptom of the disease. There are a lot of things you can do to make

:11:37. > :11:40.symptoms easy without affecting the underlying disease, which is what we

:11:41. > :11:44.would like to do eventually but at the moment we isn't much -- there

:11:45. > :11:52.isn't much we can do for that. So there has to be more research done,

:11:53. > :11:56.which is being done, why do we know so little about the specific causes?

:11:57. > :12:01.Both if you have talked about a myriad of reasons which can help but

:12:02. > :12:05.why do we know so little about the causes of it? Your brain is a very

:12:06. > :12:10.complicated organ, separated from your body by the blood brain

:12:11. > :12:15.barrier, making research between the two very complicated. We know that

:12:16. > :12:19.the fragile brain can have problems which do not translate into dementia

:12:20. > :12:21.symptoms. That is right there are so many things you can do to keep

:12:22. > :12:25.symptoms down. -- that is why.

:12:26. > :12:29.There are a lot of different causes, vascular disease, outsiders disease,

:12:30. > :12:34.so many and if you found the cause of one of them, you may not get the

:12:35. > :12:38.others. It is very complicated. I'm glad it

:12:39. > :12:42.is being discussed to day, sometimes in it then use it can be

:12:43. > :12:46.oversimplified, which is frustratingly for the families

:12:47. > :12:49.affected. Is it one of the issues of our times? Definitely, we have not

:12:50. > :12:54.invested enough in dementia research for many years. Which is why we know

:12:55. > :13:00.so little about the brain. That is beginning to change, our

:13:01. > :13:05.organisation is creating a new Institute in London to tackle the

:13:06. > :13:09.causes of dementia as well. I'm hopeful for the future that we will

:13:10. > :13:13.begin to invest. We always say that more research is needed and funding

:13:14. > :13:18.as well, we are beginning to address one of the issues of our time. In

:13:19. > :13:22.the meantime, if people know the practical things they can to until

:13:23. > :13:25.this wonderful research comes through, I'm glad that research is

:13:26. > :13:30.being done, knowing what to do in the meantime is vital. You mentioned

:13:31. > :13:36.getting a decent night of sleep, what else? Exercise? That makes a

:13:37. > :13:45.difference, you need fresh air and not near a busy road. Health checks

:13:46. > :13:48.over 40. Eat well, stay hydrated, act on underlying health problems.

:13:49. > :13:53.If you have diabetes or high blood pressure, manage it properly. There

:13:54. > :13:57.are a lot of things you can do and information like that is on the

:13:58. > :13:59.Alzheimer's Society website. What is good for your heart is good for your

:14:00. > :14:08.head. Thank you very much, both of you. The government is being

:14:09. > :14:11.urged to act after two homeless people died in the same town over

:14:12. > :14:16.Christmas, we have been to Chatham in Kent to find out more.

:14:17. > :14:18.This morning we've been talking about the men

:14:19. > :14:21.What causes them to carry out acts of such unspeakable brutality?

:14:22. > :14:24.Leading experts have told this programme we should be doing more

:14:25. > :14:27.to spot warning signs and patterns of behaviour - things

:14:28. > :14:29.like physical abuse, a loss of control and terrifying

:14:30. > :14:31.threats - which should be triggering concern and action.

:14:32. > :14:36.But what about the families who this advice is too late for?

:14:37. > :14:39.Our reporter James Longman has been to meet one woman whose children

:14:40. > :14:53.Denise Williams met her ex-husband Stephen Wilson when she was 16.

:14:54. > :15:00.Brett was born in 1993, and Bradley the following year.

:15:01. > :15:04.life of abuse and putting up with drunken outbursts,

:15:05. > :15:13.just having the children seemed to make it all OK.

:15:14. > :15:16.Denise took her sons and left Stephen several times.

:15:17. > :15:19.She left for the last time in February 2002.

:15:20. > :15:22.She didn't take Brett and Bradley with her that time but was planning

:15:23. > :15:32.He rang me, and he said I have just killed the kids and I'm

:15:33. > :15:38.And at that, you think, listen for the boys, listen

:15:39. > :15:40.for the boys in the background, can you hear them?

:15:41. > :15:46.Stephen murdered his two sons by stabbing them in their necks.

:15:47. > :15:49.First he killed his younger son, Bradley, who was seven years old,

:15:50. > :15:59.I remember going and just seeing the children through a glass,

:16:00. > :16:03.like they're in a fish tank, and I identified the bodies.

:16:04. > :16:20.Stephen Wilson was given two life sentences for their murders.

:16:21. > :16:30.Denise's story shows a cycle of abuse ending in tragedy,

:16:31. > :16:34.but what about when the very children targeted manage to survive?

:16:35. > :16:36.David Potts attacked his partner's family,

:16:37. > :16:43.Somebody broke through the back door.

:16:44. > :16:48.But before they did that, they went and bought -

:16:49. > :16:56.on the floor, over the sofas and up the stairs and everywhere,

:16:57. > :17:04.And then my mum and eldest brother went to try and stop him

:17:05. > :17:10.but he just lit the fuel just in time,

:17:11. > :17:20.Zac was four years old when his mum's new partner broke

:17:21. > :17:24.into the family home and set it on fire.

:17:25. > :17:25.Zac survived, along with his half sister Kay-Lynn,

:17:26. > :17:34.His mum, Tracy, and 15-year-old half brother, Sean, were killed.

:17:35. > :17:36.Zac was taken to a children's hospital for treatment.

:17:37. > :17:46.When I found out who died, I was crying, and when I think

:17:47. > :18:03.Zac is now nine and living with his dad.

:18:04. > :18:06.I would like think of what it would be like if my mum was around,

:18:07. > :18:09.and what house I would be in, either the same house

:18:10. > :18:12.Yes, you think about the practicalities a lot, don't you?

:18:13. > :18:14.You miss having your mum around, don't you?

:18:15. > :18:18.It would be nice to have mum here as well.

:18:19. > :18:30.Like, somebody to, an extra person to accompany me.

:18:31. > :18:32.Let's talk now to Dr Jane Monckton-Smith -

:18:33. > :18:34.a Criminologist at the University of Gloucestershire.

:18:35. > :18:36.She's currently leading one of the biggest studies

:18:37. > :18:48.Hello to you. Good morning. This text from Simon goes to the heart of

:18:49. > :18:52.it. My heart bleeds for them and what horrific things they had to

:18:53. > :18:55.endure. Why do these situations arise and what could lead to these

:18:56. > :18:59.men killing their own children and partners? We have to try and stop

:19:00. > :19:02.this before it happens. The poor boy having to watch that happen to his

:19:03. > :19:08.mum and brother and surviving to live his life without them makes me

:19:09. > :19:13.cry. What leads some men to do this? Well, I think we need to look at the

:19:14. > :19:17.dynamics of domestic abuse and especially coercive control. Is

:19:18. > :19:22.there always a link? I would say always a link. Perhaps we could put

:19:23. > :19:25.it at 98%, but really, even though most of these cases don't come to

:19:26. > :19:29.the notice of the police or there is no arrest record before these things

:19:30. > :19:33.happen, families, friends, communities can very often spot some

:19:34. > :19:37.of the danger signs, especially if they know what they are. The

:19:38. > :19:46.families that I've worked with always say if only we'd known what

:19:47. > :19:51.to look for. When you say something we can look for, sometimes there is

:19:52. > :19:54.physical evidence when somebody beats up a partner, relatives will

:19:55. > :20:00.know if somebody is not allowed out of the house, or not allowed to call

:20:01. > :20:05.them or text them, won't they? But you never actually think, do you, he

:20:06. > :20:09.might kill them? You just don't think that. Nobody thinks murder

:20:10. > :20:14.will come into their lives, do they? It is our worst nightmare. But from

:20:15. > :20:18.all the research that's been done internationally and certainly from

:20:19. > :20:21.the study I'm doing, there are some inconsistencies in the way that this

:20:22. > :20:29.certain group of men behave, and it is mainly men, over 95% of cases it

:20:30. > :20:35.is men. The consistency is spread across domestic abuse. These are

:20:36. > :20:40.domestic homicides that have extended out a little bit. Is there

:20:41. > :20:44.always a pattern rather than somebody out of the blue suddenly

:20:45. > :20:49.murdering their partner or children? I can say with some confidence, and

:20:50. > :20:52.other researchers have said with confidence, that these are always

:20:53. > :20:58.planned. They are never spontaneous and I think that's where we get

:20:59. > :21:04.misled. That means somebody can't snap, in inverted commas, if it is

:21:05. > :21:07.premeditated? He just snapped, is very often the reason we put forward

:21:08. > :21:11.for these things happening but that is not helping us stop it because it

:21:12. > :21:16.is to misinterpret what has happened. It looks sometimes as if

:21:17. > :21:23.they've just snapped because we don't recognise the antecedents, the

:21:24. > :21:29.stalking, the escalation and things like that. In most cases there is no

:21:30. > :21:33.obvious violence. What do you expect other people to do then? There is no

:21:34. > :21:38.obvious violence. You think you know, he won't let her out, what are

:21:39. > :21:43.you going to do? Ring the police and say I think my brother-in-law won't

:21:44. > :21:47.let my sister out? They will not be able to do much. It would be

:21:48. > :21:52.difficult on that information to do much but you must remember we have

:21:53. > :21:58.two new course of conduct defences, coercive control and stalking. So

:21:59. > :22:01.the police have more powers to act earlier in the situations. What I am

:22:02. > :22:05.saying to you if you are a relative or friend and you think there is an

:22:06. > :22:08.issue, is it your job to collect some evidence and present it to the

:22:09. > :22:20.police in order to get them to act, or is it enough to say, I think

:22:21. > :22:22.there is an issue here, please help? The best thing is to speak to the

:22:23. > :22:25.person involved. You have to speak in a varied nonjudgemental way

:22:26. > :22:27.because it is very difficult to leave. In fact, leaving is the

:22:28. > :22:29.biggest trigger for this kind of behaviour, this kind of family

:22:30. > :22:32.annihilation, so it has to be done carefully. What I would suggest is

:22:33. > :22:37.anybody in this kind of situation and any families who are concerned,

:22:38. > :22:41.and they are usually concerned, can phone domestic violence helpline is,

:22:42. > :22:47.stalking helplines, to get some more information and perhaps get referred

:22:48. > :22:53.to a safety plan. And that might involve what? What might a safety

:22:54. > :22:57.plan involve? As we know, mums will say don't do anything because that's

:22:58. > :23:02.going to make him worse. Yes they do, absolutely. A generalised

:23:03. > :23:05.comment but we all recognise it. That is what happens most of the

:23:06. > :23:09.time because that is an absolutely valid comment to make because one of

:23:10. > :23:14.the biggest trigger is, as I've just said, is when there is a separation.

:23:15. > :23:20.A lot of these men have separation anxiety. So it does make it very

:23:21. > :23:24.difficult. That does not mean there cannot be a safety plan around that

:23:25. > :23:29.family and that woman. OK, so people should not feel that it is futile if

:23:30. > :23:34.they ring one of the helplines and support groups? Not at all. Steph on

:23:35. > :23:38.Facebook says I got out of an ABC relationship in 2015 and it was

:23:39. > :23:41.difficult because I had nowhere to live -- abusive relationship. I wish

:23:42. > :23:46.I could have left years before but it wasn't easy but I'm glad I did.

:23:47. > :23:50.Me and my daughter are putting our lives back together again and I'm

:23:51. > :23:56.awaiting counselling and I'm happier than I ever have been.

:23:57. > :24:00.Mark says the stabbings, the arson attacks, they are awful. I lost my

:24:01. > :24:04.partner to cancer in 2011, that in itself is hard to cope with and I

:24:05. > :24:08.cannot begin to imagine how one copes with such awful events. My

:24:09. > :24:12.love to the victims. This text, Denise and the poor boy are so

:24:13. > :24:15.strong in what they have had to deal with, people can only imagine what

:24:16. > :24:22.they have had to go through and I hope they find peace in the future.

:24:23. > :24:27.Why do people need to be so cruel? Are these cases finally on the rise?

:24:28. > :24:32.There is some evidence to suggest, especially in the United States,

:24:33. > :24:37.where there was a very sharp rise after 1990. The figures went up to

:24:38. > :24:46.about 2007. We are seeing a rise in this kind of murder. But that may be

:24:47. > :24:50.just because there is more visibility of it. But the domestic

:24:51. > :24:55.homicides themselves are not rising. So it's arising within that group.

:24:56. > :24:57.Thank you for coming on the programme.

:24:58. > :25:01.If you want to read more about this you can find an article on the BBC

:25:02. > :25:11.news site and if you want to see the film it is on our programme page.

:25:12. > :25:13.ABC .co .uk/ Victoria. -- bbc.co.uk/ Victoria.

:25:14. > :25:16.The deaths of two rough sleepers in the same town

:25:17. > :25:17.over christmas week, has prompted calls for

:25:18. > :25:19.government legislation on homelessness in the winter.

:25:20. > :25:22.The two men died within a few streets of each other

:25:23. > :25:24.in Chatham in Kent - it's feared they may

:25:25. > :25:26.Currently there's no legal obligation for local

:25:27. > :25:29.authorities to provide help, but some say that should change.

:25:30. > :25:33.Lesley Ashmall spent the evening in Chatham.

:25:34. > :25:42.Hi, Leslie. Yes, Christmas Eve, busy shopping centre, one man found dead,

:25:43. > :25:46.and then just a few days later another man died just round the

:25:47. > :25:50.corner. Last night I went out with a local charity checking all the

:25:51. > :25:53.people, plenty of them still sleeping on the streets last night

:25:54. > :26:01.in the bitter cold. They went out checking they're OK.

:26:02. > :26:05.The high Street was mobbed, Christmas Eve, people doing

:26:06. > :26:08.shopping. It was 11:30am when somebody realised he had passed

:26:09. > :26:14.away. If you look at the flowers left over the last week, pictures,

:26:15. > :26:17.he left all of his stuff and this is where Michael stayed. Michael

:26:18. > :26:23.McCloskey was in his 40s, a father and grandfather. A run of bad luck

:26:24. > :26:27.left him on the streets. Michael was always in top spirits, a great guy,

:26:28. > :26:31.West Ham supporter, so we always talked a lot about football. He was

:26:32. > :26:35.a nice guy, you can see from the amount of flowers left and reading

:26:36. > :26:40.some of the cards. And then just a few days later a few streets away

:26:41. > :26:45.another person died. Sadly great past as well. It is two too many,

:26:46. > :26:49.the council needs to do something. Why are these guys left out here?

:26:50. > :26:55.Why aren't we looking after them? There are still people on the street

:26:56. > :26:58.as you can see. When are the council going to say this is enough. This is

:26:59. > :27:07.a very big problem. It's not known how either man died

:27:08. > :27:15.but their friends think the weather could have been to blame. Definitely

:27:16. > :27:19.the cold. It's got to be the cold because they had no blankets on,

:27:20. > :27:25.definitely the cold. How do you survive? We popped into McDonald's

:27:26. > :27:30.now and again, we have a place up the road, try and find anything warm

:27:31. > :27:35.in the shops. I have three or four coats on, three or four trousers,

:27:36. > :27:38.three pairs of socks, two sleeping bags and still freezing in the

:27:39. > :27:43.morning. What should the government do? The government needs to come

:27:44. > :27:48.down and see the homeless people who are actually homeless and give them

:27:49. > :27:54.a place to stay, do you know what I mean? We are all suffering, we are

:27:55. > :27:58.not all bad people. There is not enough places for people to go.

:27:59. > :28:02.There are more homes in Chatham than people think. I'm a victim of

:28:03. > :28:10.circumstances, I had my Mrs and that and I was working but I'm down on my

:28:11. > :28:15.look -- luck. I'm struggling on the streets. I have two or three fits a

:28:16. > :28:22.day and if it weren't for my friend Shane being around me I would be

:28:23. > :28:27.dead myself. Medved has said it follows national guidelines and

:28:28. > :28:35.offers accommodation when the weather falls below freezing for

:28:36. > :28:36.three consecutive nights. But, for Shane and Barry, those guidelines

:28:37. > :28:38.aren't enough. We asked Medway Council

:28:39. > :28:40.for an interview. It is very sad to see people

:28:41. > :28:45.sleeping on the streets and to hear We would urge anyone sleeping rough

:28:46. > :28:48.to visit our contact point in Gillingham,

:28:49. > :28:50.so we can provide advice We can speak now to Balbir Chatrik

:28:51. > :29:03.from the homelessness charity Centrepoint,

:29:04. > :29:12.Andrew Faris who was homeless and sleeping rough for five years,

:29:13. > :29:16.and Rick Henderson who is the chief Let me ask all of you -

:29:17. > :29:20.how is it possible that people can be left to potentially freeze

:29:21. > :29:31.to death on the streets We are already into 2017 now and we

:29:32. > :29:36.find even now, last night, for example, people are suffering, there

:29:37. > :29:41.is severe weather, nobody has any obligation to check on them. There

:29:42. > :29:46.is no figures on how many people die every night or every year published,

:29:47. > :29:50.as homeless people, they are regarded as homeless people. Yes,

:29:51. > :29:54.they are missing. It is really sad to know people are dying because of

:29:55. > :30:04.the cold weather. Rick, you are local to the area. This is sort of

:30:05. > :30:07.beyond belief, isn't it? I wish it was, these two cases local to where

:30:08. > :30:12.I live are tragic because it happened within a few days of each

:30:13. > :30:15.other. The fact is these are not isolated incidents. There is an

:30:16. > :30:19.annual roll call of deaths of people on the streets, often as a direct

:30:20. > :30:21.result of the cold weather but for all kinds of reasons. This is

:30:22. > :30:26.happening because, although there are some guidelines, some practice

:30:27. > :30:33.around this area, we call it the severe weather emergency protocol,

:30:34. > :30:38.SWEP, which means the local authority should trigger the

:30:39. > :30:41.provision of emergency accommodation. This is optional, it

:30:42. > :30:45.is not a statutory legal requirement, but we'd like to think

:30:46. > :30:48.it should be. There is also no legal requirement to investigate in any

:30:49. > :30:52.significant way to the deaths of people on the street. There are no

:30:53. > :30:57.serious case reviews, for example. Something we would like to see. It

:30:58. > :31:01.is a bad situation but not an isolated situation. This happens all

:31:02. > :31:05.of the time. It is absolutely disgraceful in the 21st-century,

:31:06. > :31:08.having people dying on the streets, it is unacceptable. We need to work

:31:09. > :31:12.together to change that. But it's not just about people on the

:31:13. > :31:16.streets, we know young people in particular are sleeping on night

:31:17. > :31:19.buses, they are sleeping in stairwells, because it's not safe

:31:20. > :31:25.for them to be on the streets because young people in particular

:31:26. > :31:29.as our research has shown, they don't want to be on the streets, so

:31:30. > :31:34.a quarter would go home with a stranger just for a place to stay.

:31:35. > :31:40.About 10% will actually emit a crime. So you've got a police cell

:31:41. > :31:44.for the night. Another 10% will actually do something to get

:31:45. > :31:48.themselves admitted to A just to be off the streets. Why don't local

:31:49. > :31:51.authorities have an obligation to look after people like Michael

:31:52. > :31:55.McCloskey and Greg. Sadly we only know his first name.

:31:56. > :32:04.I don't know, we have questioned the councils... Were they not vulnerable

:32:05. > :32:12.enough? That is true, in that case it is right. We have found that the

:32:13. > :32:19.people who are sleeping rough, of our friends who are sleeping rough,

:32:20. > :32:23.often you find people on the streets in London, if they are stood up,

:32:24. > :32:28.they are not regarded as homeless but if they are sitting down they

:32:29. > :32:30.are not regarded as homeless, if they are laying down for six days in

:32:31. > :32:39.a row, somebody may come along to see if they can

:32:40. > :32:44.get them help. Where is the priority to see a human being on the street

:32:45. > :32:51.and say, I need to do something... I have to read you this e-mail from

:32:52. > :32:55.Sue. In 2002 I befriended a rough sleeper in Bath, he suffered from

:32:56. > :32:58.mental illness, physically abused at home he was an alcoholic. He was

:32:59. > :33:03.physically strong but vulnerable and was known to local police because he

:33:04. > :33:07.was prone to violence. He himself was subjected to frequent violent

:33:08. > :33:13.attacks why drunks and other rough sleepers. He died on New Year's Eve

:33:14. > :33:18.in 2004 having been stabbed more than 12 times, the perpetrator is

:33:19. > :33:20.still free despite up to 20 people witnessing the attack. Every witness

:33:21. > :33:25.was threatened by the attacker, known to many of them, with their

:33:26. > :33:30.lives. Should they have dared give evidence? If I were to sum up the

:33:31. > :33:35.lives of rough sleepers, it is petrifying, turbulent and isolating,

:33:36. > :33:43.and without hope. The fact is, the law is not strong enough when it

:33:44. > :33:48.comes to individuals. They test Bumrah Bella Tabor titters

:33:49. > :33:56.arbitrary. Royalty need, if you -- they test vulnerability. But by and

:33:57. > :34:00.large if you are a single person without dependents, the only thing

:34:01. > :34:03.you are legally entitled to is advice and assistance.

:34:04. > :34:07.Clearly that is not enough, we need a system allowing people to get off

:34:08. > :34:09.the streets, and get people into accommodation. We need to prevent

:34:10. > :34:19.people from a riding on the streets in the first

:34:20. > :34:23.place, people are being evicted from private tenancies and cannot solve

:34:24. > :34:26.issues before they are evicted. We know the relationship breakdowns

:34:27. > :34:30.causes people to wind up on the street and you cannot stop people

:34:31. > :34:33.arriving on the streets completely but if you have the resources and

:34:34. > :34:36.will to do it, you can make sure that people do not live on the

:34:37. > :34:42.streets because when they do that, chances are they will die on the

:34:43. > :34:46.streets. Is that fair? Absolutely, but we need to know the scale and

:34:47. > :34:52.nature of the problem. If you look at figures, they underestimate how

:34:53. > :34:56.many rough sleepers there are. In London, there are about 8000 people

:34:57. > :35:02.sleeping rough last year, about 10% of young people. We know that it is

:35:03. > :35:05.an underestimate. We need to know the scale of the problem so we can

:35:06. > :35:10.do about the right solutions, without that we cannot develop them.

:35:11. > :35:14.Are they being developed by anyone with power, even without knowing the

:35:15. > :35:18.scale of the problem? I think the government is doing some work, this

:35:19. > :35:23.reduction Bill is going through Parliament and will prevent

:35:24. > :35:28.homelessness. Rick is right, if young people are on the streets, we

:35:29. > :35:34.pick them up. How did it happen to you? My thing was that I was in

:35:35. > :35:43.commercial business, is state, and I found myself homeless and was Auden

:35:44. > :35:50.the streets for 5.5 years -- estate. How did that happen? It happens very

:35:51. > :35:55.quickly, it happens within three months of you losing your property,

:35:56. > :36:01.and onto the streets. It is so quick, repossession takes place very

:36:02. > :36:05.quickly. You owned a house? A very large house, with cars, business,

:36:06. > :36:11.offices... And your business went down the drain? In one go. They did

:36:12. > :36:15.not care, they could have given me another 60 days to swap everything,

:36:16. > :36:19.you plead with them, let me solve it in 30 or 60 days... But in two or

:36:20. > :36:24.three months, that's it, you are out. Give us the keys. Then people

:36:25. > :36:30.think you must have friends who you could cap on their sofa, or a

:36:31. > :36:35.relative? It does not happen that easily. Because you do not want to

:36:36. > :36:40.impose yourself? Not only that, it is not just pride but when you think

:36:41. > :36:42.you have those friends, they are not around. They disappear suddenly

:36:43. > :36:46.because you need money and accommodation, you will be a burden

:36:47. > :36:52.on their family and with how they operate. What I have found myself,

:36:53. > :36:56.it is such a hard way of getting out of homelessness. Why did the last

:36:57. > :37:00.five and a half years... I could have done it in one or two years,

:37:01. > :37:04.don't drink or smoke, do this or do that... But the system itself takes

:37:05. > :37:11.you along that path where you have to go through hoops, one after the

:37:12. > :37:17.next. There is no counsel that I could go to and say, I need help

:37:18. > :37:20.from you. Can you help me? I'm a single person, I just need one room

:37:21. > :37:25.and I need to get my life together. Why do you need to be out of there

:37:26. > :37:28.for so many years? That's the problem. Councils need have an

:37:29. > :37:32.obligation and if they want to come with our charity every night, and

:37:33. > :37:38.see the homeless guys in central London, if you want to do a walk

:37:39. > :37:40.around, I can introduce you to 50-100 people every night on the

:37:41. > :37:47.streets of central London. Some are very young, and some are

:37:48. > :37:54.very old. Angela, she is in her 50s. David is in his 60s. These guys are

:37:55. > :37:58.vulnerable. Let me read a couple more messages from people watching

:37:59. > :38:02.you talk about this. Anthony on Facebook says that the UK is a

:38:03. > :38:07.shameful place for homeless people with woeful care. Another says it is

:38:08. > :38:10.heartbreaking, due to a relationship breakdowns they nearly found

:38:11. > :38:13.themselves rough sleeping before Christmas, they ran Al Gore boot

:38:14. > :38:22.camp so they knew how cold it could be, let alone sleeping outside --

:38:23. > :38:26.outdoor boot camps. Thank you for talking about this

:38:27. > :38:28.with us this morning. Thank you for coming on the programme.

:38:29. > :38:31.Still to come, we'll talk to the Star Wars actor Warwick Davis

:38:32. > :38:33.about his friend the American actress Carrie Fisher.

:38:34. > :38:38.A memorial service takes place for Carrie and her mother

:38:39. > :38:41.Debbie Reynolds, who died within 24 hours of each other over Christmas.

:38:42. > :38:44.The winner of the Best Art Vinyl award will be announced tonight -

:38:45. > :38:46.but what makes a vinyl album cover iconic?

:38:47. > :38:52.We'll be discussing with some experts shortly.

:38:53. > :38:57.And some of the nominees for the award tonight.

:38:58. > :39:06.Slightly later than normal... All of the news.

:39:07. > :39:09.A study has warned that children are being left to "fend

:39:10. > :39:11.for themselves" in the digital world - against dangers such

:39:12. > :39:14.The Children's Commissioner for England, Anne Longfield,

:39:15. > :39:16.says many children and parents are often unaware that personal

:39:17. > :39:19.information and content posted on social media sites can be sold

:39:20. > :39:26.Just the fact that they know what you're saying and you're doing, it

:39:27. > :39:33.Researchers in Canada have found that people living near major

:39:34. > :39:36.roads appear more likely to develop dementia.

:39:37. > :39:41.They tracked more than two million people in Ontario for signs

:39:42. > :39:45.of the brain disease over the course of 11 years.

:39:46. > :39:47.The scientists suggested air pollution or noisy traffic

:39:48. > :39:50.could contribute to the brain's decline.

:39:51. > :39:54.A record number of new cars were bought in the UK in 2016 -

:39:55. > :39:57.according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders.

:39:58. > :39:59.Sales hit 2.69 million - that's up more than 2%

:40:00. > :40:06.However, with sales growth now falling the industry isn't expecting

:40:07. > :40:15.Migrants should be expected to learn English before coming to the UK,

:40:16. > :40:16.or attend language classes when they arrive, according

:40:17. > :40:21.The cross-party group said speaking English was "the key

:40:22. > :40:24.to full participation in our society and economy".

:40:25. > :40:26.They also said ministers should consider letting

:40:27. > :40:29.different parts of the UK set their own immigration policy.

:40:30. > :40:31.The government said it was spending ?20 million on English

:40:32. > :40:38.This programme has learnt that a former Crewe Alexandra coach

:40:39. > :40:39.has denied wrongdoing after being suspended

:40:40. > :40:46.Paul McCann worked with young players at the club

:40:47. > :40:50.He was working with the then-manager Dario Gradi, who is now

:40:51. > :40:55.He also later volunteered as a youth coach at non-league club AFC

:40:56. > :41:01.Handwritten letters from Princess Diana are due to be

:41:02. > :41:06.Written to a steward at Buckingham Palace,

:41:07. > :41:08.they reveal that a young Prince Harry was routinely

:41:09. > :41:14.In one letter dated 17th October, 1992, she says how both young

:41:15. > :41:16.princes "are well and enjoying boarding school a lot, although

:41:17. > :41:23.The collection will be sold over approximately 40 lots -

:41:24. > :41:26.with estimates ranging from ?80 to ?900.

:41:27. > :41:28.The auction also includes letters from the Queen,

:41:29. > :41:35.written on Windsor Castle-headed paper.

:41:36. > :41:47.Tottenham prevented Chelsea from matching the longest

:41:48. > :41:51.consecutive winning run in PL history as the Blues were beaten 2-0

:41:52. > :41:54.at White Hart Lane last night, to throw open the title race.

:41:55. > :41:56.Dele Alli got both goals with two headers.

:41:57. > :41:58.Chelsea remain five points clear at the top,

:41:59. > :42:02.Andy Murray's winning run continues, he's extended his to a career best

:42:03. > :42:04.26 consecutive matches following his victory over

:42:05. > :42:08.He's into the Quarter Finals after a tough straight sets win over

:42:09. > :42:11.the Austrian as he prepares for his assault on the Australian

:42:12. > :42:14.Open later this month, one of two major titles the world

:42:15. > :42:17.And Johanna Konta's good run of form continues as well.

:42:18. > :42:20.She is one win away from reaching her third WTA Final.

:42:21. > :42:22.She beat Krystina Pliskova, to reach the Semi Finals

:42:23. > :42:29.And that's all the sport for now, I'll have more on the BBC

:42:30. > :42:37.A private memorial service will take place later today for American

:42:38. > :42:39.acting icons Carrie Fisher and her mother Debbie Reynolds.

:42:40. > :42:40.Family members and close friends will attend.

:42:41. > :42:43.60-year-old Carrie Fisher died last Tuesday after suffering cardiac

:42:44. > :42:48.arrest on a plane travelling from London to Los Angeles.

:42:49. > :42:51.The next day, her mother - Debbie Reynolds - died from a stroke

:42:52. > :42:54.Her son, Carrie's brother, Todd Fisher,

:42:55. > :42:57.says she died of a "broken heart" following her daughters death.

:42:58. > :42:59.The pair had been taking part in a HBO documentary

:43:00. > :43:05.which airs this weekend - here's an extract from it.

:43:06. > :43:11.That's from when they first invented cellphones.

:43:12. > :43:21.I have to go and start rehearsals for Star Wars seven...

:43:22. > :43:29.I'm concerned because my mother is not feeling well.

:43:30. > :43:33.That's what's good about losing your memory.

:43:34. > :43:39.It's like the old days in a way but I'm like the old days, so...

:43:40. > :43:41.My family in particular can overwhelm

:43:42. > :43:45.It wasn't just my mother that was super famous.

:43:46. > :43:50.They were the couple of America, one heck of a

:43:51. > :43:57.My mother, she'll forget she's not 35.

:43:58. > :44:00.Age is horrible for all of us but she falls from a

:44:01. > :44:10.That was not diagnosed then so nobody kind of knew what was

:44:11. > :44:14.I went too fast, I was too much, I couldn't

:44:15. > :44:24.Turn around this way because your rear end is to the camera.

:44:25. > :44:34.Far more than I ever would want to, I

:44:35. > :44:39.Just do what your mother says, it makes life easier.

:44:40. > :44:54.Here's a reminder of some of their most iconic films.

:44:55. > :44:57.# Just singing in the rain.#

:44:58. > :45:11.I recognised your foul stench when I was brought on board.

:45:12. > :45:15.My personal life is always sort of like this, and I think I can, I

:45:16. > :45:22.think I can, and I seem to marry poorly, I have no taste in men.

:45:23. > :45:29.Luckily for me Gareth is good and I have two wonderful children.

:45:30. > :45:32.The Imperial Senate will not stand for this.

:45:33. > :45:45.Don't act so surprised, your Highness.

:45:46. > :45:59.I keep buying her tickets and she hasn't moved yet.

:46:00. > :46:09.Let's speak to the actor Warwick Davis - he played an Ewok

:46:10. > :46:15.in the third Star Wars film, Return of the Jedi aged 11.

:46:16. > :46:22.He was also a friend of Carrie Fisher. Thank you for joining us. At

:46:23. > :46:28.age 11 what are your memories of her then? I remember Carrie as Princess

:46:29. > :46:34.Leia, being a huge star Wars fan at the time. On first meeting her

:46:35. > :46:39.that's really who I saw her as being, this iconic character from my

:46:40. > :46:45.favourite films. But as I got to know her during the filming I

:46:46. > :46:48.realised she was a really funny, fun person to be around and was very

:46:49. > :46:55.caring as well towards me having to work in the hot Ewok costume as we

:46:56. > :47:00.did, and we had the seem to play together, the scene where I found

:47:01. > :47:05.her crashed on her speeder bike and take her back to the Ewok village. I

:47:06. > :47:10.was fortunate to get to know her at that young age and we have kept in

:47:11. > :47:14.touch ever since. How did you become friends? How come there was a

:47:15. > :47:17.connection? I think it's just because I was the youngest member of

:47:18. > :47:22.the cast and I would often just hang around, even when I wasn't filming I

:47:23. > :47:25.would be around the set being a fan of the films anyway. And also over

:47:26. > :47:30.the years you do keep in touch because we would often see each

:47:31. > :47:33.other at press junkets and DVD launches and Star Wars celebration

:47:34. > :47:38.events and I got to interview carried live on stage several times

:47:39. > :47:42.and she was always one of my favourite guests to interview --

:47:43. > :47:48.Carrie. The fans adored her as well and it was a really easy show to do,

:47:49. > :47:53.the ones with Carrie. She was a very open person, she was open about her

:47:54. > :48:00.addiction and mental health issues, which she said she thought were

:48:01. > :48:04.caused in part by her life in show business. What would you say about

:48:05. > :48:10.that? This business is quite stressful. But it has its upsides

:48:11. > :48:15.and it has its downsides. Carrie seemed to where the famed quite

:48:16. > :48:18.well. She wasn't somebody who played celebrity particularly. She was very

:48:19. > :48:24.down-to-earth and kind of very in touch with the fans and with

:48:25. > :48:31.reality. But obviously it did take its toll on her. But I can fully

:48:32. > :48:38.appreciate that as well. She always had a lot of time for people. That's

:48:39. > :48:41.quite something when you're one of the most recognised people on the

:48:42. > :48:50.planet having been in some of the most iconic films in existence. But

:48:51. > :48:53.she remained who she was. It didn't change her in anyway. You last saw

:48:54. > :48:58.her in July, did you say? How was she? She was great. I was

:48:59. > :49:05.interviewing her live on stage in front of 4000 people. She was as

:49:06. > :49:10.sharp witted and as funny as I remember her always being. You just

:49:11. > :49:14.never know what you're going to get. She was there with her wonderful dog

:49:15. > :49:19.Gary, of course, they went everywhere with her. They were

:49:20. > :49:25.inseparable, be it on a red carpet or on a stage, Gary would be there

:49:26. > :49:28.with her and he attacked me at that last meeting on the stage in front

:49:29. > :49:33.of everyone, which was funny, not as bad as it seems. She was

:49:34. > :49:37.fantastically funny. I remember Carrie with a smile on my face, very

:49:38. > :49:42.fondly, she was always very funny and would make you laugh. Thank you

:49:43. > :49:43.for joining us. Warwick, we appreciate your time. Warwick Davis

:49:44. > :49:44.on Carrie Fisher. As music lovers re-discover vinyl -

:49:45. > :49:51.we ask what it takes to make We'll be talking to some people

:49:52. > :49:55.who were behind some of the most Four people have been arrested

:49:56. > :49:59.in the US city of Chicago over a video live-streamed

:50:00. > :50:08.on Facebook, in which a bound We are going to play a clip and you

:50:09. > :50:10.might find some of the images we are about to show distressing.

:50:11. > :50:17.Police say the man being attacked has special needs.

:50:18. > :50:20.His assailants can be heard making derogatory statements against white

:50:21. > :50:21.people and President-elect Donald Trump.

:50:22. > :50:24.In one part of the video the attackers used a knife to remove

:50:25. > :50:31.Speaking at a news conference, Superintendent Eddie Johnson

:50:32. > :50:35.of the Chicago Police Department expressed his disgust.

:50:36. > :50:40.It's sickening. You know, it makes you wonder, what would make

:50:41. > :50:44.individuals treat somebody like that. I've been a cop for 28 years

:50:45. > :50:48.and I've seen things you shouldn't see in a lifetime but it still

:50:49. > :50:53.amazes me how you still see things that you just shouldn't. You looked

:50:54. > :50:55.at that video, they were just, stupidity.

:50:56. > :50:57.Chicago police say an adult man with learning difficulties

:50:58. > :51:01.He was found walking around the city's West Side area

:51:02. > :51:06.during the early hours in a disorientated state.

:51:07. > :51:15.He was traumatised fairly good. Like I said, it took most of the night

:51:16. > :51:18.for him to calm down enough for him to be able to talk to us.

:51:19. > :51:24.Detectives say careful consideration will be given to watch charges, if

:51:25. > :51:27.any, followed their investigation of the four suspects now in custody.

:51:28. > :51:38.Although they are adults they are 18. Kits make stupid mistakes. They

:51:39. > :51:42.are young adults and they make stupid decisions. That certainly

:51:43. > :51:47.will be part of whether or not we seek a hate crime to determine

:51:48. > :51:51.whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving. Much

:51:52. > :51:55.more on that story throughout the day on BBC News. It has just gone

:51:56. > :51:57.10:50am. Good morning. We know that in an age of live

:51:58. > :52:00.streaming more and more of us are actually buying vinyl albums -

:52:01. > :52:04.while it still only accounts for around 2.5% of the

:52:05. > :52:06.overall music market, Which means artists are spending

:52:07. > :52:10.more time trying to create iconic album covers -

:52:11. > :52:21.in a hope of emulating Look at these. You will probably

:52:22. > :52:22.recognise all of them and you will all have your favourites and no

:52:23. > :52:23.doubt on some of these. Tonight the winner of the 2016

:52:24. > :52:26.Best Art Vinyl award will be announced -

:52:27. > :52:28.so how does a record sleeve become iconic and what were the best

:52:29. > :52:31.works of art in 2016? Let's speak now to musician

:52:32. > :52:35.Kate Jackson - she designed Road Movies herself -

:52:36. > :52:38.and she's one of the nominees Pete Fowler's famous and celebrated

:52:39. > :52:44.for his record sleeve art - he designed most of the albums

:52:45. > :52:47.for Welsh band the Andrew Heeps is from Art Vinyl

:52:48. > :52:52.which holds the awards every year. Rob O'Connor's been involved

:52:53. > :52:57.with creating iconic album covers such as Parklife by Blur -

:52:58. > :53:02.his company Stylorouge is also nominated for tonight's

:53:03. > :53:04.Best Art Vinyl award - creating the sleeve

:53:05. > :53:16.for Kula Shaker's new album Welcome all of you. We have some

:53:17. > :53:19.amazing examples here. As you are behind the awards tonight what are

:53:20. > :53:25.you going to pick out was my cake is up for an award, David Pallett's

:53:26. > :53:33.Black Star, describe why that is iconic. -- David Bowie. Time will

:53:34. > :53:38.tell. We've gone through a very difficult year. I will hold it up.

:53:39. > :53:42.It has been a difficult year with what has gone on but what can be

:53:43. > :53:46.removed is this which is a great record which has influenced people's

:53:47. > :53:49.decisions about being great design as well. To create something like

:53:50. > :53:55.this which has so much intrigue, the album cover its self, months after

:53:56. > :53:59.its release, people were discovering things, if you shone it in the

:54:00. > :54:09.light. Kate, would you mind putting the record on? Year. That is Black

:54:10. > :54:17.star down there. Using my DJ skills, it is Black star. People's influence

:54:18. > :54:21.on to which record sleeve they particularly like this often come

:54:22. > :54:25.from the music as well. A lot of the time it is up to these guys we are

:54:26. > :54:30.with today to take the concept of that music and turn it into a visual

:54:31. > :54:39.thing that we can all enjoy. How do you do that? Take the music and turn

:54:40. > :54:43.it into it? Yes. It is different with every job, we have done several

:54:44. > :54:48.over the years as a company and what is difficult is making it specific

:54:49. > :54:53.for each artist, each artist has a specific requirement. Give me an

:54:54. > :55:00.example. Hold that one up. That is Jake's cover. He has had some which

:55:01. > :55:06.have relied heavily on his image and he wanted some part for this one and

:55:07. > :55:09.we sourced the correct artist for him for that project. Whether it is

:55:10. > :55:14.described as iconic or not is neither here nor there. Kate, in

:55:15. > :55:20.terms of you designing this, why did you do it? Hold it up so everyone

:55:21. > :55:25.can see it. The camera will find it. I am in an unusual position of being

:55:26. > :55:29.the musical artist and visual artist, so when I was writing the

:55:30. > :55:35.music I suppose I had a kind of idea of what I wanted the sleeve to look

:55:36. > :55:40.like. I don't know if that's true for all musical artists. I don't

:55:41. > :55:42.know whether, say, for example, musicians come to you and described

:55:43. > :55:47.to you what they want or whether you take the music and then interpret

:55:48. > :55:52.that. We do take the music and interpret it and if we don't like

:55:53. > :55:56.the music that gives you a quandary. Pete spoke about this. Pete does

:55:57. > :56:00.what we do and listens to something else we do like to inspire us. It's

:56:01. > :56:04.interesting that you do design your own covers because we always try and

:56:05. > :56:08.make our designs look like they have come from the artist. For me that is

:56:09. > :56:13.paramount because we don't want people to think that is some design

:56:14. > :56:19.agency. Absolutely, who is making money out of this. That doesn't seem

:56:20. > :56:25.to be very creative although it clearly is. Let's talk about some of

:56:26. > :56:28.these. What inspires you? Talking about the inspiration for it, I've

:56:29. > :56:33.been working with the Super Furry Animals since 96, I think. Coming up

:56:34. > :56:38.with something new every time. The first record I designed for them was

:56:39. > :56:43.their second album Radiator, and I was given a list of working titles

:56:44. > :56:47.for the songs, and also some recordings and demos and finished

:56:48. > :56:50.tracks and was told by the band if you can get inspiration from these

:56:51. > :56:57.that would be great, if not, do what you like, which is quite scary. Have

:56:58. > :57:03.you got it? No. What was the cover of Radiator. It was a bear walking

:57:04. > :57:10.down the street scene the evil reflection of itself in the mirror.

:57:11. > :57:14.They went on tour in Japan and a generalist explained to them what

:57:15. > :57:19.the album was about it was about Shinto religion and they were like,

:57:20. > :57:24.OK. Everyone has their own interpretation in our world. That is

:57:25. > :57:27.the beauty of it. When you look at one of your favourite album covers

:57:28. > :57:33.it arouses different emotions. I look at Dare and I could cry because

:57:34. > :57:36.I was so happy at the time. It is not particularly iconic, it just

:57:37. > :57:42.means so much to me. The winner announced tonight? It will be

:57:43. > :57:47.announced tonight in London. Put us out of our misery. It will stay

:57:48. > :57:52.secret until about nine o'clock tonight. It is a celebration of what

:57:53. > :57:58.we do, and we do a montage of the 15 nominees. Obviously there is

:57:59. > :58:02.ultimately a winner -- 50 nominees. It is a celebration of record cover

:58:03. > :58:07.art. What is lovely is I'm talking about the Best Art Vinyl awards and

:58:08. > :58:14.I'm surrounded by people whose work I have bought without knowing,

:58:15. > :58:19.realising it. I think that's what it's about. These guys are sometimes

:58:20. > :58:25.the unsung heroes behind creating these lovely images. The artwork is

:58:26. > :58:29.the magic portal into the music itself. It's the thing that you have

:58:30. > :58:33.in your bedroom. You can even put it up on your bedroom wall if you want

:58:34. > :58:37.to. That's the difference to me between holding a beautiful piece.

:58:38. > :58:41.I'm going to stop there because it's the end of the programme but good

:58:42. > :58:43.luck. We are back tomorrow at 9am. Thank you

:58:44. > :58:45.MUSIC: Mad World by Gary Jules