06/01/2017

:00:00. > :00:26.the cloud might be thick enough for the odd

:00:27. > :00:37.One parcel had drugs in it. What was in there? It's not of cannabis. You

:00:38. > :00:42.smell it and then what? You tell the managers and they say, you need to

:00:43. > :00:43.deliver it. If you see the person you're delivering two, tell them to

:00:44. > :00:47.be more careful. Really? The next American president

:00:48. > :00:49.Donald Trump has publicly sided with Russia over America's

:00:50. > :00:51.intelligence services over claims that Russia interfered

:00:52. > :00:53.in the USelection process Today he meets intelligence chiefs

:00:54. > :00:57.to hear their evidence. More people than ever with mental

:00:58. > :01:00.health problems are being kept in hospitals for longer

:01:01. > :01:02.than necessary because of problems finding care

:01:03. > :01:05.for them when they leave. We talk to a man who says he felt

:01:06. > :01:08.like he'd been kidnapped after being kept on a secure

:01:09. > :01:23.ward for months. Welcome to the programme, we're live

:01:24. > :01:26.until 11:00am this morning. Do get in touch on all the stories

:01:27. > :01:29.we're talking about this morning - we are talking about lots

:01:30. > :01:32.of different things today. We are looking at how people

:01:33. > :01:34.who are patients in mental health units are being kept there longer

:01:35. > :01:37.than they need because of problems with onward care, get

:01:38. > :01:39.in touch about that, use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE,

:01:40. > :01:43.and if you text, you will be charged Our top story today,

:01:44. > :01:47.Donald Trump's doubts over the judgement of America's

:01:48. > :01:49.intelligence chiefs has been attacked as "absolutely mindless"

:01:50. > :01:51.by the outgoing US vice president The President-elect, is due to meet

:01:52. > :01:59.intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

:02:00. > :02:02.tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

:02:03. > :02:07.criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

:02:08. > :02:09.and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

:02:10. > :02:26.intelligence advisers quit his team. The three Wise men of US

:02:27. > :02:30.intelligence. Together in their belief that Russian hacking

:02:31. > :02:35.interfered with the presidential election, intending to help Donald

:02:36. > :02:45.Trump win. The hacking was only one part of it. It also entailed

:02:46. > :02:50.classical propaganda, disinformation, fake news. But in

:02:51. > :02:51.the last few hours, the President-elect has again questioned

:02:52. > :03:06.their judgment. It's the latest in a long list of

:03:07. > :03:08.online outbursts. First rubbishing intelligence officials, before

:03:09. > :03:14.saying he's a big fan, then challenging them once again. The CIA

:03:15. > :03:21.director said he was expecting a feisty meeting. I am hoping that he

:03:22. > :03:25.is going to be respectful, respectful of the agency as well as

:03:26. > :03:30.the intelligence community. And looking forward to a rather robust

:03:31. > :03:37.if not sporty discussion. On this issue. There has been more blunt

:03:38. > :03:46.criticism of Mr Trump's approach from his political enemies. Not to

:03:47. > :03:50.be prepared to listen to the myriad of intelligence agencies, from

:03:51. > :03:55.defence intelligence to the CIA, etc, is absolutely mindless. It's

:03:56. > :04:02.just mindless. And from Republicans to. Every American should be alarmed

:04:03. > :04:05.by Russia's attacks on our nation. There is no national security and

:04:06. > :04:09.trust more vital to the USA than the ability to hold free and fair

:04:10. > :04:14.elections without foreign interference. Putin is up to no good

:04:15. > :04:18.and had better be stopped. Mr President-elect, when you listen to

:04:19. > :04:22.these people, you can be sceptical, but understand they are the best

:04:23. > :04:26.among us and they are trying to protect us. At least two of these

:04:27. > :04:30.men won't be around for long. They'll be replaced when Donald

:04:31. > :04:33.Trump takes office, two weeks today. Dan Johnson, BBC News.

:04:34. > :04:36.Annita McVeigh is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:04:37. > :04:42.The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish"

:04:43. > :04:44.moment for economists, the Bank of England's

:04:45. > :04:47.Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously inaccurate

:04:48. > :04:49.reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead of the UK's

:04:50. > :04:57.Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

:04:58. > :05:01.following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:05:02. > :05:03.Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

:05:04. > :05:06.rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

:05:07. > :05:14.NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

:05:15. > :05:18.to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

:05:19. > :05:24.Ministers say they will be spending 400 million pounds

:05:25. > :05:26.over the next 4 years, to ensure mental health

:05:27. > :05:30.teams can provide support to people in their homes.

:05:31. > :05:43.Oliver Lang helps his father run a small post office in Norfolk. In

:05:44. > :05:47.2014 the 27-year-old was detained under the Mental Health Act. He

:05:48. > :05:51.spent several weeks in a psychiatric unit, but even when he was well

:05:52. > :05:55.enough to leave, he couldn't. Delays in arranging support in the

:05:56. > :05:59.community meant he spent a further two months unnecessarily in

:06:00. > :06:03.hospital. I felt like I was in danger in there, because a lot

:06:04. > :06:13.happens in hospital. Then, I felt like if someone attacks me I'd have

:06:14. > :06:16.to defend myself. But if I did defend myself and hurt someone,

:06:17. > :06:18.there'd say he is a danger, so that keep me locked up for longer. I was

:06:19. > :06:38.trying to be whiter than white. Latest figures show...

:06:39. > :06:43.The analysis was carried out this former care minister who says

:06:44. > :06:47.figures show mental health patients are being discriminated against. It

:06:48. > :06:52.means there's a shortage of community psychiatric nurses, as

:06:53. > :06:56.shortage of support services like detox facilities, and a shortage in

:06:57. > :07:00.social care which I think has hit people with mental illness is

:07:01. > :07:05.disproportionately hard. Ministers say they are spending ?400 million

:07:06. > :07:09.over the next four years to ensure mental health teams provide more

:07:10. > :07:14.support to people in their homes. Michael Buchanan, News.

:07:15. > :07:17.The pressure of patient numbers last month prompted a third of hospital

:07:18. > :07:20.trusts in England to issue warnings that they needed to take

:07:21. > :07:22.urgent action to cope, according to analysis seen

:07:23. > :07:25.In the most serious cases, the Trusts declared

:07:26. > :07:27.that they were unable to give patients comprehensive care.

:07:28. > :07:29.The data comes from the health-care think tank, the Nuffield Trust.

:07:30. > :07:32.A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

:07:33. > :07:34.operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

:07:35. > :07:38.28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

:07:39. > :07:43.officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

:07:44. > :07:46.Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

:07:47. > :07:51.Stalkers will face longer jail terms under a drive

:07:52. > :07:56.The maximum sentence in England and Wales will rise

:07:57. > :08:01.The Ministry of Justice says the plans will help ensure

:08:02. > :08:10.the punishment reflects the damaging impact stalking has on victims.

:08:11. > :08:12.A lack of funding to improve forensic science is jeopardising

:08:13. > :08:15.the integrity of the criminal justice system in England and Wales,

:08:16. > :08:18.The Forensic Science Regulator says it's also concerned

:08:19. > :08:20.about the processing of DNA samples taken from suspects

:08:21. > :08:25.The National Police Chiefs Council says it has secured extra funding

:08:26. > :08:30.to respond to the challenges faced by the service.

:08:31. > :08:32.President Barack Obama has described the torture of a mentally

:08:33. > :08:34.disabled man in Chicago, streamed on Facebook Live,

:08:35. > :08:41.The four suspects are seen assaulting a man with

:08:42. > :08:44.special needs while making anti-white racial taunts.

:08:45. > :08:47.Three teenagers and a woman are due in court today accused of aggravated

:08:48. > :08:54.The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

:08:55. > :08:56.days of strike action on the Southern Rail

:08:57. > :09:00.That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

:09:01. > :09:03.claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

:09:04. > :09:18.A busy commuter line brought to a standstill in December, when

:09:19. > :09:22.Southern Rail's drivers and conductors went on strike.

:09:23. > :09:26.Passengers on the railway between London, Surrey, East Sussex and West

:09:27. > :09:30.Sussex endured more than two dozen strikes last year. They are in for

:09:31. > :09:33.more. The drivers union Aslef insists it will go ahead with 324

:09:34. > :09:45.hour strikes next week... The dispute is about this. Southern

:09:46. > :09:49.wants its drivers to take over closing the train doors, it's a job

:09:50. > :09:55.currently done by the on-board guard. The union says its less safe

:09:56. > :09:58.and threatens jobs in the long run. After a further review the office of

:09:59. > :10:04.rail and road has confirmed it regards the plans as safe. In light

:10:05. > :10:08.of that report, Transport Secretary Chris Grayling says the strike

:10:09. > :10:12.should be called off. He also wants nationwide safety guidelines on the

:10:13. > :10:17.way trains are dispatched. Aslef disputes the report, and says its

:10:18. > :10:22.members will walk out next week. If that goes ahead, Southern Rail says

:10:23. > :10:28.no trains will run on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. Members of

:10:29. > :10:30.Aslef and the RMT are also planning three further strikes later in the

:10:31. > :10:34.month. Ben Bland, BBC News. Scientists have told the BBC

:10:35. > :10:36.that a giant iceberg, a quarter the size of Wales is ready

:10:37. > :10:40.to break off from the Larsen C ice When it does, the iceberg is likely

:10:41. > :10:44.to be one of the ten Researchers say that this

:10:45. > :10:47.is a geographical and The Indian actor Om Puri,

:10:48. > :10:53.who starred in the British comedy East is East,

:10:54. > :10:55.has died of a suspected He also appeared in other films,

:10:56. > :11:01.including Gandhi, and more recently he played opposite Dame Helen Mirren

:11:02. > :11:17.in The Hundred Foot Journey. Some knees just coming in. British

:11:18. > :11:23.Airways says passengers will be able to fly to their destinations during

:11:24. > :11:27.a 48 hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday. Although a small number of

:11:28. > :11:30.flights will be merged. Staff are striking over pay and conditions.

:11:31. > :11:36.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 9:30am.

:11:37. > :11:38.Let's get some sport now with Hugh, and it's a big

:11:39. > :11:46.Yes, in fact it's one of the biggest weekends of the football calendar,

:11:47. > :11:49.it's FA Cup third round weekend with five non-league teams among

:11:50. > :11:51.those dreaming of a shock to one of football's best sides

:11:52. > :11:58.as Premier League and Championship teams enter the competition.

:11:59. > :12:02.The first tie of the round is a good one too, it's live on BBC One

:12:03. > :12:05.and Radio 5live this evening - it sees a somewhat under

:12:06. > :12:07.pressure Pep Guardiola, take his Manchester City side

:12:08. > :12:09.to the London Stadium to face West Ham United.

:12:10. > :12:11.Guardiola is exceited for his first taste of the competition.

:12:12. > :12:14.What I hear before, the Cup is special because the lower teams

:12:15. > :12:31.But of course it is tough, it will be luck of the draw.

:12:32. > :12:40.A big game for us and a big game for them, the FA Cup.

:12:41. > :12:44.It is for the fans of course and I am sure they will put a very

:12:45. > :12:48.strong team tomorrow, because it's a big chance

:12:49. > :13:11.Some high-profile footballers are heading to China.

:13:12. > :13:14.The Chinese Super League has picked up another Chelsea player.

:13:15. > :13:16.Nigeria's Jon Obi Mikel follows former teammate Oscar to China,

:13:17. > :13:20.In an emotional letter to his "Chelsea family" on social media,

:13:21. > :13:22.the midfielder thanksed fans for making the "impossible,

:13:23. > :13:35.He joins a long list of players who have made the move including Carlos

:13:36. > :13:40.Tevez. And another victory for Andy Murray. Sir Andy Murray is starting

:13:41. > :13:45.2017 in much the same way he ended 2016, with victory after victory. He

:13:46. > :13:49.is now into the semifinals at the Qatar open with a win over Nicolas

:13:50. > :13:55.Duisburg. His second match in a row there was a tie-break in the opening

:13:56. > :14:01.set and again Murray won it. He took the second is than- five and faces

:14:02. > :14:09.third seed Tomas Berdych next. Bad news is Johanna Konta. She missed

:14:10. > :14:14.out on a place in the Shenzhen open final after a shock defeat to world

:14:15. > :14:19.number 52 Katerina Siniakova. There's going to be a "major

:14:20. > :14:21.inquiry" into how the police That's according to Yvette Cooper,

:14:22. > :14:25.who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, which looks at how

:14:26. > :14:27.the governments doing when it She's been speaking to the BBC

:14:28. > :14:31.after a Newsbeat investigation revealed claims that an increasing

:14:32. > :14:34.amount of illegal drugs are being Think drug dealer, and you probably

:14:35. > :14:44.think of a shady character. But as more and more

:14:45. > :14:53.people buy drugs online... Drugs that people are most likely

:14:54. > :14:56.to buy on the Dark Net Your postman is unkowingly

:14:57. > :15:05.becoming a vital link For most people, browsing

:15:06. > :15:09.the Internet, they will never leave what is called the surface

:15:10. > :15:13.where but there is a more murky part of the Internet just a few

:15:14. > :15:22.clicks of the mouse away. Under the surface there are millions

:15:23. > :15:25.of files full of financial data, photos and other material

:15:26. > :15:28.that is not publicly accessible. Keep going, and you

:15:29. > :15:33.arrive in the Dark Web. For a growing number of drug users,

:15:34. > :15:39.it is the easiest and most reliable I bought marijuana, ecstasy,

:15:40. > :15:43.2C-B, 2C-1, benzos. A couple of others, AM-22,

:15:44. > :15:50.psychedelic stimulants... A recent local drug survey found

:15:51. > :15:52.that in the last year, one in five people who took part had

:15:53. > :15:55.used drugs bought online. We were waiting for a package

:15:56. > :16:02.of an ounce of MDMA to be delivered. We see the postman driving down

:16:03. > :16:05.and get very excited, and then she gives me the package,

:16:06. > :16:09.and I signed for it. Very happy, and yes,

:16:10. > :16:14.then we open up the package Me and my friend at the time found

:16:15. > :16:20.it incredibly funny, she gave us the post and just

:16:21. > :16:22.had no idea. She handed it over and said

:16:23. > :16:25.thank you very much, and I looked at her and said no,

:16:26. > :16:33.thank you very much. Completely unaware of

:16:34. > :16:40.what had just happened. So, just how easy is it to get hold

:16:41. > :16:45.of drugs in this way? If you do an investigation

:16:46. > :16:48.on the Dark Web, you have So, I've come to meet Chris,

:16:49. > :16:51.who was introduced to me as the person you want to meet

:16:52. > :16:54.if you want to know what is going on on this murky

:16:55. > :16:57.part of the Internet. Before meeting Chris,

:16:58. > :17:01.I bought some Bitcoin, If you go up to this section

:17:02. > :17:05.here, which says drugs. Click on it, and it looks

:17:06. > :17:08.like eBay for drugs. It's a crass analogy, but that is

:17:09. > :17:10.what we've got, isn't it? You would need to have a certain

:17:11. > :17:15.amount of understanding to be able to operate on here and buy drugs

:17:16. > :17:17.on here, and generally It is, I compare it to a lot

:17:18. > :17:29.of people downloading stuff, but their friends teach them how

:17:30. > :17:31.to do it, and then You think of the Dark Web,

:17:32. > :17:36.and kids think, this will be a crazy That is not what you expect

:17:37. > :17:46.to see with a drug dealer? Offline, certainly not,

:17:47. > :17:48.but online it has become the norm. What is the likelihood of me getting

:17:49. > :17:52.some, if I order three things today? I would say 98% that

:17:53. > :17:54.you would get all three. Do you think that is the reason

:17:55. > :18:00.why this is a growing Absolutely, it gives

:18:01. > :18:05.you the experience at Amazon and eBay, applying it to drugs

:18:06. > :18:07.and making it safe. To test the system, I ordered hash,

:18:08. > :18:14.ecstasy, and synthetic cannabis. We are back in the office and it has

:18:15. > :18:18.literally taken us a couple of hours to get back,

:18:19. > :18:20.log back in, and we already One thing with the Dark Web

:18:21. > :18:26.is that it is quite slow, it takes a long time to load

:18:27. > :18:29.through, so yes, here we have We have two of the three en route

:18:30. > :18:36.already, that is about 60, It looks straightforward and normal,

:18:37. > :18:40.it's easy to forget As the Dark Web becomes

:18:41. > :18:44.a popular place to buy drugs, inevitably more and more illegal

:18:45. > :18:46.substances are being But, is this something your average

:18:47. > :18:52.postman is even aware of? I just wonder if you

:18:53. > :18:54.have seen anything? I have spent a couple of hours

:18:55. > :18:59.walking around this area, trying to get postal workers to stop

:19:00. > :19:02.and chat with us... I wonder if you've ever seen

:19:03. > :19:04.anything that you posted...? Many did, but did not want to go

:19:05. > :19:08.on camera as they were worried about losing their jobs potentially

:19:09. > :19:11.if they speak out. But, we do have comments that they

:19:12. > :19:14.gave us which I've noted down here. They are quite happy for me to read

:19:15. > :19:18.them out but not going on camera. One guy has been working

:19:19. > :19:21.there for 26 years and never seen Another guy, 14 years a postman,

:19:22. > :19:28.a similar time and he has Parcels get scanned,

:19:29. > :19:31.yes, I admit that. But how am I to know

:19:32. > :19:34.what is in a parcel? Another guy says yes,

:19:35. > :19:38.we definitely suspect the post and it is that weird issue again

:19:39. > :19:42.of where we can smell the weed but when it is in my mailbag,

:19:43. > :19:45.we just have to deliver it. We saw a similar response

:19:46. > :19:47.when we asked the question One said they had handled

:19:48. > :19:52.a couple of this year Another said that a parcel

:19:53. > :19:55.was beginning to stink up the office, so it was taken

:19:56. > :19:58.to the police station. One said that every now and then

:19:59. > :20:01.we get a special delivery for one of the businesses,

:20:02. > :20:03.which is full of weed and it Eventually, we did manage

:20:04. > :20:09.to find one postman who would talk to us,

:20:10. > :20:11.but only if he could He has come across

:20:12. > :20:18.drugs in his mailbag. What was in there,

:20:19. > :20:22.as far as you know? You tell the managers,

:20:23. > :20:26.and all they say is... If you see the person

:20:27. > :20:30.it is being delivered to, The Royal Mail told us that it does

:20:31. > :20:35.not knowingly carry any illegal items on its network,

:20:36. > :20:37.and says it works closely with police and other

:20:38. > :20:39.authorities to prevent A few days on, since we put our

:20:40. > :20:49.orders in on the Dark Web, and it is time to see

:20:50. > :20:52.if they have turned up. We got them delivered to a PO box,

:20:53. > :20:56.and asked Jimmy from the office to give us a lift down

:20:57. > :20:59.to pick them up. This is the post office collection

:21:00. > :21:07.point, where Jim has had The reason I have headphones

:21:08. > :21:11.on whilst I am at the wheel is that we are listening while he's

:21:12. > :21:17.in the queue. I've just had a couple

:21:18. > :21:22.of text messages from Jim, saying it is taking ages,

:21:23. > :21:24.slightly paranoid that The woman looked at a pile,

:21:25. > :21:30.then went off and she has We had three orders we put in,

:21:31. > :21:49.and I am assuming that all three One ecstasy tablet, which is a blue

:21:50. > :21:58.pill and there will be a small amount of hash,

:21:59. > :22:00.cannabis, and there Really, if that came through your

:22:01. > :22:08.mail if you were a postman, Yes, there is definitely stuff

:22:09. > :22:20.in there, but it has clearly It is hard with bubble

:22:21. > :22:23.wrap all around it. But actually, really,

:22:24. > :22:26.it could be anything in there. It's just an anonymous

:22:27. > :22:29.looking package. We got three packages but we don't

:22:30. > :22:33.know what is in them. Thank you for the lift,

:22:34. > :22:35.see you in a bit... We will take them to a government

:22:36. > :22:41.approved testing lab. In here, we've got three samples

:22:42. > :22:44.that we've bought online. We should open them all up

:22:45. > :22:47.and see if we've got Among the sweets, there

:22:48. > :22:54.is something wrapped up. That looks like the ecstasy

:22:55. > :22:57.tablet that we ordered. The same brand and everything

:22:58. > :23:00.that we thought it was. Which looks very much

:23:01. > :23:06.like it was in the picture This, we believe, is a blue ecstasy

:23:07. > :23:11.tablet but the only way to know What we will do is I will hand this

:23:12. > :23:17.over, and we will do some measurements and then we will take

:23:18. > :23:19.it into the laboratory A small bit of the pill is crushed,

:23:20. > :23:29.dissolved and run through a machine. What you are looking for is that

:23:30. > :23:36.you know where these spikes normally are on the graph and you can compare

:23:37. > :23:39.that with your database, Yes, I have the retention

:23:40. > :23:43.time and it then says that your tablet contains MDMA,

:23:44. > :23:46.ecstasy, which is... The hash has come in a foil wrap,

:23:47. > :23:55.disguised as tea, and the spice is lose in an envelope,

:23:56. > :24:01.inside the Jiffy bag. These envelopes will be going

:24:02. > :24:04.through the post in the millions. Not necessarily with this

:24:05. > :24:06.kind of stuff in it, quite legitimate post,

:24:07. > :24:09.but if you get this closely, you can instantly see

:24:10. > :24:11.that it has been tampered with and there was

:24:12. > :24:13.something else in it. In theory, it will avoid

:24:14. > :24:19.smell, to a degree. These got through because there

:24:20. > :24:22.are millions of these which get through, as I said,

:24:23. > :24:25.and if the post office opened every package which came through,

:24:26. > :24:28.we would get our post two or three months after somebody posted it

:24:29. > :24:30.to us, so they cannot. But it is interesting,

:24:31. > :24:33.because to me, you may as well have made no effort to do what these

:24:34. > :24:38.people have done, because if someone was opening these looking

:24:39. > :24:40.for contraband, they would have The three packages all arrived

:24:41. > :24:47.as described, but how Dr Adam Winstock runs a global drug

:24:48. > :24:58.survey where users go The drugs people are most likely

:24:59. > :25:02.to buy on the Dark Net, cannabis, MDMA, LSD,

:25:03. > :25:04.cocaine, and novel drugs. In terms of the number of people

:25:05. > :25:07.buying, we have seen a year-on-year From about 12% of people

:25:08. > :25:13.who reported either having bought drugs on the Dark Net themselves,

:25:14. > :25:16.or having drugs bought for them. So, almost 18% last year

:25:17. > :25:19.and the current global drug survey I expect will show

:25:20. > :25:23.a further increase. We are seeing the trend

:25:24. > :25:25.pretty much globally. On Amazon, you get the idea

:25:26. > :25:28.of people having... Does that happen a lot

:25:29. > :25:37.on the Dark Web? Absolutely, about a third of people

:25:38. > :25:40.so that they broaden It's like, we notice that

:25:41. > :25:43.you like LSD and magic mushrooms... Perhaps you would be

:25:44. > :25:45.interested in 2-CB? There is absolutely that

:25:46. > :25:47.effect, but also people who are on the Dark Net are quite

:25:48. > :25:50.open to looking around What does the global drug survey

:25:51. > :25:54.tell us about habits Interests on the Dark Web often

:25:55. > :26:02.reflect the interests of drug In New Zealand, where

:26:03. > :26:06.it is difficult to get illicit drugs into the country

:26:07. > :26:09.because of their fantastic biological walls, sniffer dogs

:26:10. > :26:12.and searching and everything else, very few people use the Dark Net,

:26:13. > :26:15.I think because of higher operations between the police and Postal

:26:16. > :26:17.Service. So, there are anomalies

:26:18. > :26:20.but generally both people reckon that it is safer buying drugs online

:26:21. > :26:23.and that is where Back in the Newsbeat office, we have

:26:24. > :26:29.arranged a chat with Jamie Bamford. He is in charge of investigations

:26:30. > :26:31.and intelligence for Everybody keeps telling us that

:26:32. > :26:35.New Zealand is leading the way in keeping drugs off the street,

:26:36. > :26:38.what is your secret? That is nice to hear,

:26:39. > :26:43.but the way we have approached this problem is that we have taken

:26:44. > :26:47.an intelligence led approach to it. So, we take a keen

:26:48. > :26:52.interest in the Dark Net. You think that more

:26:53. > :26:54.than ever, New Zealanders We have had an increase in smaller

:26:55. > :27:01.seizures in our post office centres, they have tripled over

:27:02. > :27:03.a two-year period. We cannot put that down entirely

:27:04. > :27:06.to the Dark Net, but we think Is it the usual stuff that

:27:07. > :27:13.you are doing over there? Things like scanners,

:27:14. > :27:15.and sniffer dogs? Yes, they are hugely effective

:27:16. > :27:20.in the mail centre setting. They lead to a lot of success

:27:21. > :27:23.but actually, a lot of intelligence The fact that there has been a big

:27:24. > :27:30.push by New Zealand to join up all of the agencies and collaborate

:27:31. > :27:32.together, in order to get that success, these

:27:33. > :27:37.are a key tool for us. This part of London used to be

:27:38. > :27:40.home to a lot of shops where you could buy legal highs

:27:41. > :27:42.or use psychoactive substances. The government says that

:27:43. > :27:45.their new law to tackle this has meant that these shops

:27:46. > :27:48.have closed down. But we managed to get these

:27:49. > :27:51.drugs from the Dark Web, We asked the government to speak

:27:52. > :27:57.to us, but they declined. They say that they are spending

:27:58. > :28:17.?1.9 billion over the next five You can see that fall Newsbeat

:28:18. > :28:21.documentary. Addicts will always find ways of getting drugs. They

:28:22. > :28:26.will go for the easiest and cheapest way. Anonymous text message says a

:28:27. > :28:30.worldwide failed war on drugs is to blame, hence why drug dealers

:28:31. > :28:35.operate on the street. The only logical solution for them not to be

:28:36. > :28:38.caught is to go online. We will be talking about that later.

:28:39. > :28:42.After a third of hospital trusts said they had to take urgent action

:28:43. > :28:44.to cope with patient numbers last month.

:28:45. > :28:46.We'll have the latest NHS figures covering the festive period.

:28:47. > :28:53.And you may remember this iconic moment when weather forecaster

:28:54. > :28:55.Michael Fish failed to predict the great storm of 1987.

:28:56. > :28:58.Earlier on today, apparently a woman rang the

:28:59. > :29:00.BBC saying that she had heard that there was

:29:01. > :29:03.Well, if you are watching, don't worry.

:29:04. > :29:10.Well, a leading Bank of England economist has admitted the bank had

:29:11. > :29:13.what he calls "a Michael Fish moment" over its gloomy predictions

:29:14. > :29:25.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:29:26. > :29:27.Donald Trump's doubts over the judgement of America's

:29:28. > :29:29.intelligence chiefs has been attacked as "absolutely mindless"

:29:30. > :29:32.by the outgoing US vice president Joe Biden.

:29:33. > :29:35.The President-elect, is due to meet intelligence chiefs today,

:29:36. > :29:38.to discuss their claims that Russia tried to interfere in the American

:29:39. > :29:48.Mr Trump's been facing renewed criticism from senior Republicans

:29:49. > :29:52.and Democrats about his scepticism, and less than 24 hours before

:29:53. > :29:57.the meeting, one of his top intelligence advisers quit his team.

:29:58. > :30:00.The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish"

:30:01. > :30:02.moment for economists, the Bank of England's

:30:03. > :30:08.Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously inaccurate

:30:09. > :30:11.reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead of the UK's

:30:12. > :30:16.Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

:30:17. > :30:22.following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:30:23. > :30:24.Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

:30:25. > :30:27.rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

:30:28. > :30:33.NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

:30:34. > :30:35.to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

:30:36. > :30:46.Ministers said they will be spending ?400 million to ensure mental health

:30:47. > :30:51.teams can provide support to people in their homes.

:30:52. > :30:54.A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

:30:55. > :30:55.operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

:30:56. > :31:02.28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

:31:03. > :31:05.officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

:31:06. > :31:08.Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

:31:09. > :31:23.British Airways says customers will be able to fly to their destinations

:31:24. > :31:28.during a 48-hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday although a small

:31:29. > :31:32.number of flights will be merged. Members of Unite have rejected the

:31:33. > :31:42.latest pay offer and will walk out for 48 hours from Tuesday. The

:31:43. > :31:46.Indian actor Om Puri has died of a suspected heart attack. Om Puri also

:31:47. > :31:51.appeared in Gandhi and recently played opposite Dame Helen Mirren.

:31:52. > :31:56.That's a summary of the latest BBC News - more at 10.00am.

:31:57. > :32:04.We have some breaking news about Russia's role in Syria. According to

:32:05. > :32:09.the APA news agency in Moscow, Russia says it is withdrawing its

:32:10. > :32:13.aircraft carrier and other warships from the waters of Syria as the

:32:14. > :32:20.first step in drawing down forces in Syria. The Russian General staff

:32:21. > :32:26.chief has said the carrier and accompanying ships will be the first

:32:27. > :32:33.to leave. He was quoted as saying that in accordance with President

:32:34. > :32:37.Vladimir Putin the Defence Ministry is starting to downsize Armed Forces

:32:38. > :32:40.in Syria. Those reports coming through. We will keep you updated.

:32:41. > :32:44.A big weekend of FA Cup ties coming up -

:32:45. > :32:45.32 matches in all in the third round.

:32:46. > :32:48.The action starts tonight when Pep Guardiola's Manchester City

:32:49. > :32:51.For City manager Pep Guardiola, it's a new experience,

:32:52. > :32:54.he's never been involved in the Cup before and he's looking forward

:32:55. > :33:00.to what he describes as a special match tonight.

:33:01. > :33:03.Another Premier League player is moving to the Chinese Super League -

:33:04. > :33:06.Chelsea's John Obi Mikel is joining He'll join Tianjin Teda.

:33:07. > :33:08.Mikel joins other high profile names in making the move -

:33:09. > :33:13.including former Chelsea team-mate Oscar.

:33:14. > :33:16.Sir Andy Murray is through to the last four of the Qatar Open.

:33:17. > :33:19.The World Number One beat Spain's Nicolas Almagro in straight

:33:20. > :33:23.sets to set up a semifinal with third seed Tomas Berdych.

:33:24. > :33:26.Top seed Johanna Konta missed out on a place in the final

:33:27. > :33:33.The British Number One was shocked by Czech world number 52

:33:34. > :33:46.New research shows that more and more people are being kept

:33:47. > :33:48.in mental health wards long after they are well

:33:49. > :33:51.Delays in discharging people are increasing more rapidly

:33:52. > :33:54.in mental health trusts than in other parts of the NHS

:33:55. > :33:56.in England, according to analysis by the Liberal Democrats

:33:57. > :34:01.A delayed discharge occurs when a patient is declared medically

:34:02. > :34:03.well enough to leave hospital but something else

:34:04. > :34:10.Well last year it was estimated that delayed discharges cost the NHS

:34:11. > :34:16.Now today's figures show for the year ending last October,

:34:17. > :34:19.the number of people kept in hospital longer than they needed

:34:20. > :34:22.to rose by up to 30% in acute trusts in England,

:34:23. > :34:29.that's in normal hospitals. But in mental health and learning

:34:30. > :34:31.disability units the increase Look at the figures for one

:34:32. > :34:35.month alone, last July. Where nearly 4% of all mental health

:34:36. > :34:38.bed spaces were occupied by people who were medically well enough

:34:39. > :34:42.to be sent home. Of more than 640,000 bed places that

:34:43. > :34:45.were occupied in that month, almost 25,000 were taken up

:34:46. > :34:50.because of delayed discharges. We can speak now to

:34:51. > :34:52.Dr Jonathan Bindman, medical director of Barnet,

:34:53. > :34:55.Enfield and Haringey Mental Health NHS Trust, and Sophie Corlett

:34:56. > :35:00.from the mental health charity MIND, and in Norwich is Oliver Lang

:35:01. > :35:04.who was kept in a secure ward for four months after he should

:35:05. > :35:21.have been released. Oliver, tell us what happened.

:35:22. > :35:25.Basically I was sectioned to a medium security unit. Two or three

:35:26. > :35:29.months later I had a tribunal where the doctor and judge and panel

:35:30. > :35:35.agreed I should be discharged. They gave me a maximum of two months to

:35:36. > :35:40.ditched charge me. They had a care home setup and everything was ready

:35:41. > :35:44.-- to discharge me. Two trusts were arguing over who would fund my care

:35:45. > :35:48.and as a result I was kept in hospital longer. It took four months

:35:49. > :35:54.longer than it should have done in the end. After the original decision

:35:55. > :35:57.it was six months in total? Yeah. Knowing you had been cleared for

:35:58. > :36:02.release and you couldn't get out, how did you feel? It was quite

:36:03. > :36:06.scary. It makes you think, it puts things in perspective. You think,

:36:07. > :36:10.there are these people with so much power and nobody bats an eyelid when

:36:11. > :36:15.they keep you locked up. It must have been very frustrating. It was.

:36:16. > :36:20.It's quite a dangerous place to be. I didn't feel safe there. It wasn't

:36:21. > :36:25.very nice. What sort of conversations where you having with

:36:26. > :36:29.people? When I was allowed to use the phone at designated times, I

:36:30. > :36:34.kept ringing round my social worker, my solicitor, my dad was running

:36:35. > :36:37.around heads of funding panels as well. They were sending us round in

:36:38. > :36:43.circles. Everyone was saying, why are you worried, I said, I'm the one

:36:44. > :36:49.locked up, I need to keep my nose clean every day, it's hard. It all

:36:50. > :36:56.boiled down to a row over who would fund what would happen after you

:36:57. > :37:03.left? Yeah. Sophie, you work with Mind. How often is this happening?

:37:04. > :37:06.Is happening quite a lot. Oliver's story is shocking. You've just said

:37:07. > :37:14.the financial cost but the personal cost to somebody. In Oliver's case,

:37:15. > :37:17.he wasn't just on a board, he was on a locked ward. You wouldn't keep

:37:18. > :37:21.somebody in prison for six months beyond what they needed to be. Even

:37:22. > :37:26.if that only happened once in the whole country, it would be a really

:37:27. > :37:32.shocking thing. But it is happening a lot. Not just one locked wards but

:37:33. > :37:36.all sorts of wards. It stops people's recovery and has a real

:37:37. > :37:40.impact on their lives. Is it better people are kept in longer than they

:37:41. > :37:45.should be rather than released without somewhere that is

:37:46. > :37:49.appropriate for them? People need to have somewhere appropriate to go,

:37:50. > :37:54.that is the issue. There aren't the community services available. We

:37:55. > :37:59.know that one of the most dangerous and fragile times for people is when

:38:00. > :38:03.they first come out of hospital. That first seven days, two weeks,

:38:04. > :38:09.where they need to be really well supported. It's a very high suicide

:38:10. > :38:14.risk for people in the early release time. It's definitely important that

:38:15. > :38:18.you don't just send people out to nothing. People may have been in

:38:19. > :38:21.hospital for quite a long time, they may have lost their accommodation

:38:22. > :38:25.and have literally nowhere to go. Housing can often have to be

:38:26. > :38:32.arranged. It's very important but is set up. How much of an issue is it

:38:33. > :38:36.in the area where you are in Barnet, Enfield and Haringey mental health

:38:37. > :38:41.trust? It is absolutely an issue and the overall figure quoted was 3.8%

:38:42. > :38:47.of birds are filled at any one time by people who could leave hospital.

:38:48. > :38:52.In London it's more typically 6%. 6% of all of our beds at any one time

:38:53. > :38:55.are filled with people who could go tomorrow if suitable places were

:38:56. > :38:59.available. Obviously what it means is that new people cannot come into

:39:00. > :39:04.the system. Yes, absolutely. It's really important to see the figure

:39:05. > :39:11.is just one symptom of a whole system that is under enormous strain

:39:12. > :39:15.at the front end, at the point of admission as well as the point of

:39:16. > :39:19.discharge. And also all the other parts of the system, including the

:39:20. > :39:26.places people live, supported accommodation. It boils down to

:39:27. > :39:31.financial issues and they aren't enough spaces elsewhere for people

:39:32. > :39:35.to go to. How would you define that? It's not just a matter of the

:39:36. > :39:43.finances overall, it's a question of where the money is and where the

:39:44. > :39:46.resources are. I feel that we can take great pride in the mental

:39:47. > :39:52.health system but over the last 30 years we have successfully managed

:39:53. > :39:57.to greatly reduce the number of beds. I'm not suggesting we need to

:39:58. > :40:01.start increasing the number, it's all about the alternatives that are

:40:02. > :40:05.available. I think we need much more resource in the community, in

:40:06. > :40:10.supported accommodation of all types, but also things that support

:40:11. > :40:17.people to do meaningful activities. Things with their time. A whole

:40:18. > :40:22.range of social care support. Talking about the money, the delayed

:40:23. > :40:28.discharge is estimated to cost the NHS ?820 million a year which is

:40:29. > :40:35.obviously money that could be spent effectively elsewhere. Why doesn't

:40:36. > :40:39.that happen? Well, that is obviously an enormously complicated question.

:40:40. > :40:45.I think from our perspective, the thing that would be most helpful

:40:46. > :40:49.would be better joining up between decommissioning of the health

:40:50. > :40:52.services and the commissioning of the social services. I think that's

:40:53. > :40:55.something that is recognised throughout the system, that

:40:56. > :41:00.reductions in social care funding are having an enormous impact on the

:41:01. > :41:06.NHS. That social care funding has gone down more sharply than NHS

:41:07. > :41:08.funding, and being unable to get people out of beds into suitable

:41:09. > :41:15.places in the community is one of the ways in which social care

:41:16. > :41:18.funding pressures impact on the NHS. Oliver, we are talking about the

:41:19. > :41:22.fact that when people can't get out which was the situation you were in,

:41:23. > :41:25.it impacts on people trying to get the help they need. Have you

:41:26. > :41:31.struggle to get the help at the other end? The care home I've gone

:41:32. > :41:35.too is quite a good one, I can't really fault it. With me, they

:41:36. > :41:39.talked about places not being available. With me it came down to

:41:40. > :41:46.funding because I had a care home available. I agree with what the

:41:47. > :41:48.gentleman said that they need to put more money into things in the

:41:49. > :41:55.community. I agree with that, that would be nice, to have, there are

:41:56. > :41:58.plenty of places. There seem to be waiting lists for some of them, it's

:41:59. > :42:02.not as easy to get involved in things as you would think. Sophie,

:42:03. > :42:06.the same things are coming up again and again when we talk about mental

:42:07. > :42:12.health services and the issue of resources. Is it something that is

:42:13. > :42:15.properly being looked at? Do you expect there will be change? I do

:42:16. > :42:21.expect there to be change. Partly because I think people now have

:42:22. > :42:25.woken up to the fact there needs to be change. What I think we are

:42:26. > :42:29.seeing is a massive delay in that happening on the ground. Nationally

:42:30. > :42:34.we've agreed there's something called parity of esteem, which means

:42:35. > :42:38.mental health and physical health services should be treated equally.

:42:39. > :42:44.There has been recognition of that in the funding being put aside. But

:42:45. > :42:47.to make that happen, actually in a local area and make a difference to

:42:48. > :42:51.somebody, there is 1000 different decisions that need to be made by

:42:52. > :42:57.people at every level. Right down to the people who make decisions

:42:58. > :43:00.between are we spending on a bed to somebody in a secure unit very

:43:01. > :43:06.expensively, or on an addiction service or a supported housing

:43:07. > :43:11.service, actually much less expensively. Who makes those

:43:12. > :43:14.decisions down the line? It's that which we still haven't seen change

:43:15. > :43:18.and which really needs to change if we are going to make a difference

:43:19. > :43:24.for the many hundreds of people like Oliver who get stuck in the system.

:43:25. > :43:29.I just want to read out a text from someone who said "Mental health

:43:30. > :43:32.community support is minimal. How is a 24-year-old CBT Council are meant

:43:33. > :43:34.to help a 50-year-old previously well respected man now crippled with

:43:35. > :43:43.long-term depression? " please let us know your thoughts on

:43:44. > :43:47.that. Coming up, Donald Trump is told

:43:48. > :43:50.to "grow up" by the outgoing US vice-president ahead of a meeting

:43:51. > :43:52.with intelligence chiefs to discuss claims that

:43:53. > :43:54.Russia tried to interfere in the American

:43:55. > :43:56.presidential election. The Bank of England's chief

:43:57. > :43:58.economist has said the failure to predict the financial crisis

:43:59. > :44:01.was a "Michael Fish" Andy Haldane compared financial

:44:02. > :44:06.forecasts to the famously inaccurate forecast by the BBC weatherman,

:44:07. > :44:09.ahead of the UK's He said the profession

:44:10. > :44:17.was "to some degree in crisis" following the 2008-9 crash

:44:18. > :44:21.and the Brexit vote. Well let's remind ourselves of that

:44:22. > :44:23.iconic moment in 1987 when Michael Fish failed to predict

:44:24. > :44:29.the great storm. Earlier on today, apparently a woman

:44:30. > :44:34.rang the BBC saying that she had heard that there was a hurricane

:44:35. > :44:36.on the way. Well, if you are watching -

:44:37. > :44:38.don't worry. But having said that actually,

:44:39. > :44:41.the weather will become very windy, but most of the strong winds

:44:42. > :44:44.incidentally will be down over Spain, and across

:44:45. > :44:46.into France as well. There's a vicious looking area

:44:47. > :44:48.of low pressure on our doorstep, nevertheless around the Brittany

:44:49. > :44:51.area, which will head across Bringing, if nothing else,

:44:52. > :45:07.a lot of rain with it. Oh dear, who can forget that? Let's

:45:08. > :45:12.take a look at some of the panicked headlines economic forecasts can

:45:13. > :45:20.prompt. To find out more about why these predictions are so hard to get

:45:21. > :45:23.right I'm joined by Kamal Ahmed. The two most significant moments

:45:24. > :45:27.economically in recent years are being described as "Michael Fish"

:45:28. > :45:31.moments. There, be laughed off, can they go?

:45:32. > :45:42.What happened cause devastation across the south-east of England.

:45:43. > :45:45.The chief economist of the Bank of England was honest about what

:45:46. > :45:49.economic forecasts are trying to do. They are trying to make a judgment

:45:50. > :45:55.on human behaviour. They try to make those judgments when the data does

:45:56. > :45:58.not exist. I think he was talking about, when he talked about the

:45:59. > :46:05.Michael Fish moment, you must talking about the financial crisis

:46:06. > :46:09.and the forecast made then didn't understand the depth of the action

:46:10. > :46:15.of the world economy to the collapse of a Liman 's bank and other banks

:46:16. > :46:21.in 2008, The Royal Bank of Scotland of course, being another. They

:46:22. > :46:23.undercut the effect. When it comes to Brexit, although the Bank of

:46:24. > :46:30.England was correct on some things, like the fall in value of sterling

:46:31. > :46:34.work, which did happen after the Brexit vote, it did overcome the

:46:35. > :46:40.reaction. There is a assumption in the forecast that consumers would

:46:41. > :46:45.become nervous and stop spending. Consumers are a huge and important

:46:46. > :46:48.part of growth in the UK, but consumers have stayed pretty

:46:49. > :46:52.confident. It might surprise the media, Brexit isn't the most

:46:53. > :46:57.important thing when it comes to people buying and selling things in

:46:58. > :47:02.the economy. We have low interest rates, incomes are rising slowly,

:47:03. > :47:08.high levels of employment. Consumers are feeling good at the moment.

:47:09. > :47:12.Brexit hasn't happened and Andy Haldane made the point that nothing

:47:13. > :47:20.has changed. Until Britain leads the European Union at the two-year

:47:21. > :47:24.Article 50 process, the fact is, at the moment consumers are feeling

:47:25. > :47:31.good. Do we just ignore forecasts in the future? No, what Andy Haldane

:47:32. > :47:36.was saying, as meteorology learned from the Michael Fish moment, it

:47:37. > :47:39.studied things in more detail and got better at modelling weather

:47:40. > :47:43.patterns, Andy Haldane said economist had to learn from that,

:47:44. > :47:49.use the data in a more sophisticated way. When you have shock events like

:47:50. > :47:55.the financial crisis and the Brexit vote, forecasting has to change to

:47:56. > :47:57.understand what those events mean. These are events, you don't know

:47:58. > :48:01.what will happen because the fact is, they are unique. And that is the

:48:02. > :48:08.big problem for economic forecasting. We have a duty, I know

:48:09. > :48:12.I tried to do this, before the referendum, to say they are only

:48:13. > :48:17.forecasts, these things could happen. What happens in a political

:48:18. > :48:20.environment in a referendum campaign, a lot of politicians said

:48:21. > :48:28.these things will happen. It is a different thing. We are always

:48:29. > :48:31.grasping for certainty? We are, Andy Haldane said these forecasts are

:48:32. > :48:34.useful to try and project where these things will go, but just like

:48:35. > :48:36.weather forecasts, they can be wrong.

:48:37. > :48:39.Coming up, leading Indian actor Om Puri, star of the hit film East

:48:40. > :48:47.We will have tributes to him. But first today...

:48:48. > :48:50.Today, President-elect Donald Trump is due to see the evidence,

:48:51. > :48:52.upon which claims have been made that Russia launched cyber

:48:53. > :48:54.attacks on Democrats during November's US Election.

:48:55. > :48:57.It comes after top US intelligence officials gave testimony to

:48:58. > :48:58.the Senate Armed Services Committee, which is investigating

:48:59. > :49:02.The unclassified version will be made public next week,

:49:03. > :49:04.Director of National Intelligence, General James Clapper has already

:49:05. > :49:06.said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the hack

:49:07. > :49:09.of Democratic Party emails, and the motive will be

:49:10. > :49:16.But he's stopped short of calling it "an act of war."

:49:17. > :49:20.Well basically that Russia interfered to help Mr Trump

:49:21. > :49:22.to his surprise election win over Hillary Clinton.

:49:23. > :49:25.Donald Trump's praised Mr Putin in the past,

:49:26. > :49:28.and his choice for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has a history

:49:29. > :49:36.Here's what the out-going Vice President, Joe Biden,

:49:37. > :49:39.had to say about Mr Trump's lack of faith in the US

:49:40. > :49:59.Not to be prepared to listen to the myriad intelligence agencies from

:50:00. > :50:06.the defence agencies and the CIA, is absolutely mindless. It is just

:50:07. > :50:11.mindless. Can you disagree? Can you ask for more detail? Can you

:50:12. > :50:14.question, whether or not there is a disagreement among the various

:50:15. > :50:22.intelligence agencies, that is all legitimate. But the idea that you no

:50:23. > :50:27.more than the intelligence community knows... It is like saying I know

:50:28. > :50:29.more about physics than my professor, I didn't read the book, I

:50:30. > :50:39.just know I read more. Let's discuss this with our guest.

:50:40. > :50:45.What do you think about what he has been saying? Joe Biden has a good

:50:46. > :50:49.way of making things simple. Some people think he would have beaten

:50:50. > :50:55.Donald Trump had he chosen to run. The point is well taken. There is a

:50:56. > :51:01.bizarre love and admiration between Dolman Tromp and Vladimir Putin, no

:51:02. > :51:04.one can quite explain it. There is a willingness from Trump, who

:51:05. > :51:08.obviously won the election by calling into question, the

:51:09. > :51:14.complacency of the elites. He is doing the same with the intelligence

:51:15. > :51:19.community. Part of him, has this desire to make trouble and part of

:51:20. > :51:23.him is this desire to defend his victory, because part of the

:51:24. > :51:27.accusation is that the Russians intervened to help him win the

:51:28. > :51:33.election and to defeat Hillary Clinton. Part of what becomes is a

:51:34. > :51:37.partisan battle, again a very divided country, Republicans against

:51:38. > :51:42.Democrats. Democrats will feel the election was taken from them.

:51:43. > :51:46.Possibly with Russian meddling and help. The Republicans want to make

:51:47. > :51:51.sure there is no stain on this victory. At least, that is what

:51:52. > :51:58.Trump wants. Republican senators, people like John McCain, who have a

:51:59. > :52:02.long history about being tough about Russia and the Russian annexation of

:52:03. > :52:10.Crimea and Russian meddling are very upset with their President-elect.

:52:11. > :52:15.What is wrong with somebody voicing what Mike Pence has described as

:52:16. > :52:21.healthy scepticism, not taking it as face value. How much have they seen

:52:22. > :52:24.of the intelligence yet? The interesting about Trump, he wants to

:52:25. > :52:29.keep the distance between himself and what the intelligence people are

:52:30. > :52:35.saying. So this will be the first time he will have had any proper

:52:36. > :52:39.briefing on this? On this particular issue, there is a classified

:52:40. > :52:42.briefing that President Obama got yesterday and that Trump will get

:52:43. > :52:49.today and there will be declassified version that out next week. In terms

:52:50. > :52:55.of what we do understand from some of our reporting and reporting for

:52:56. > :52:59.others, they have intercepted messages of congratulations among

:53:00. > :53:05.Russian leaders about what happened. There is an implicit sense they knew

:53:06. > :53:10.what was going on. The intelligence chief who testified yesterday, James

:53:11. > :53:15.Klapper, tried to make the distinction between normal spying,

:53:16. > :53:17.which is what we all do, which is intelligence gathering and meddling

:53:18. > :53:23.in elections and meddling in the political process, that in the

:53:24. > :53:28.United States, simply to our knowledge, hasn't happened before.

:53:29. > :53:33.He said it continues. He is trying to say scepticism is fine, but

:53:34. > :53:36.disparaging the work of the intelligence community is deeply

:53:37. > :53:41.damaging to our national interests. Thank you very much.

:53:42. > :53:43.The Indian actor, Om Puri, who starred in the British

:53:44. > :53:45.comedy East is East, has died of a suspected

:53:46. > :53:50.Om Puri, who acted in both mainstream and art films,

:53:51. > :53:52.was known for his gritty performances in a number of landmark

:53:53. > :53:58.He also appeared in a number of British films, including a cameo

:53:59. > :54:00.in Richard Attenborough's epic on Mahatma Gandhi, and,

:54:01. > :54:02.more recently, he played opposite Dame Helen Mirren

:54:03. > :54:17.Slowdown. Stop! Stir things up. I want to buy this restaurant. This is

:54:18. > :54:27.private property. Do you own this property? No, no. That means you are

:54:28. > :54:39.just passing through. The President of France lines there. People don't

:54:40. > :54:44.eat those things. They have never tried. My son is the best Indian

:54:45. > :54:55.chef in Europe. Raise your hand, don't be shy. Begin! Is it a wedding

:54:56. > :55:01.party over there? A funeral. The death of good taste. If your food is

:55:02. > :55:08.anything like your music, I suggest you turn it down. I will turn it

:55:09. > :55:14.down, but I will turn the heat up. Let's speak to the former East End

:55:15. > :55:20.as actor who starred alongside him in a number of productions. When you

:55:21. > :55:28.are 13, you saw him on the big screen and he had a massive impact?

:55:29. > :55:33.He did. It was a rare occasion when my family went to see a British film

:55:34. > :55:37.in the Midlands. It was Richard Attenborough's Gandhi. As a

:55:38. > :55:43.teenager, I kind of had to sit there through the lecture of India's

:55:44. > :55:49.history and then the scene in the film, which was astonishing, was a

:55:50. > :55:54.tiny little scene, it was a cameo and it had such a huge impact on me.

:55:55. > :56:03.I have never forgot it. Years later, it turned out to be Om Puri. After

:56:04. > :56:10.that, I had the honour of working with him twice on projects. I did

:56:11. > :56:14.tell him that story. What was it about that moment and him that

:56:15. > :56:20.connected with you as a 13-year-old boy? It is very profound. The memory

:56:21. > :56:28.of that experience of watching an actor storming into a scene. It was

:56:29. > :56:32.so powerful, so full of energy and so truthful, I had never seen

:56:33. > :56:37.anything like it. It stuck with me. It stuck with me. It had such a

:56:38. > :56:42.profound effect, it had a big influence on what I wanted to

:56:43. > :56:46.achieve as an actor. When you came to meet him and act alongside him,

:56:47. > :56:54.you told him that story, what was he like? He was great. Om Puri, he has

:56:55. > :57:00.got a very angry resting face. But when he breaks out into a smile, the

:57:01. > :57:06.room lights up. He is a very gentle man and full of humour. Completely

:57:07. > :57:11.took me under his wing. I loved working with him. We were

:57:12. > :57:17.side-by-side, working as equals. His only regret with me is that I wasn't

:57:18. > :57:25.Punjabi enough for him. I remember one day, I said I fancy some Indian

:57:26. > :57:30.food. His wife had just come over from India and cook. There it was on

:57:31. > :57:37.the set the next day. He said, my wife cooked for you. He was lovely,

:57:38. > :57:42.made every experience like a family gathering, eat, drink, work and be

:57:43. > :57:46.happy. A couple of weeks ago he tweeted about his life and career.

:57:47. > :57:52.He said I don't have any regrets, I have done well for my self. I didn't

:57:53. > :58:03.have a conventional phase, but I am proud of what I have done.

:58:04. > :58:08.Absolutely, both Hollywood and Bollywood have a criteria where you

:58:09. > :58:13.have to be handsome and have a great set of teeth, but Om Puri broke that

:58:14. > :58:19.completely, he was your archetypal heart-throb. His career was huge. He

:58:20. > :58:24.has done hundreds of films. But he brought truth to what could be a

:58:25. > :58:29.very shallow industry and gravitas that nobody can match. It was a

:58:30. > :58:33.great honour for me to work with him. He is also one of these guys

:58:34. > :58:37.who hasn't managed to work in Britain, worked in Hollywood

:58:38. > :58:41.alongside Tom Hanks and Helen Mirren, as you have shown. But it

:58:42. > :58:44.all boils down to the truth and power of his acting. Thank you very

:58:45. > :59:03.much. My pleasure. Abba at the moment there is a

:59:04. > :59:07.contrast across the UK. Minus six this morning across the country. 15

:59:08. > :59:12.degrees warmer towards Northern Ireland and 15 degrees warmer than

:59:13. > :59:16.it was this time yesterday. It is the warmer air that takes over this

:59:17. > :59:22.weekend. But there is cloud and outbreaks of rain. It is heavy

:59:23. > :59:31.across eastern Northern Ireland and it will be into England and Wales

:59:32. > :59:34.and Scotland. After an icy start towards East Anglia, it stays cold

:59:35. > :59:40.all day, but you should see sunshine. Not quite the blue skies

:59:41. > :59:45.of yesterday. The temperature contrasts continue. Tonight, milder

:59:46. > :59:49.air pushes southwards after rain in East Anglia and the South East.

:59:50. > :59:53.Misty and damp throughout the night across the South. Spot of those

:59:54. > :59:57.elsewhere and misty over the hills. Clear skies will be in northern

:59:58. > :00:02.Scotland and here, a touch of frost into the weekend. But this is where

:00:03. > :00:07.you see the best of the sunshine. Lots of cloud around on Saturday,

:00:08. > :00:11.brighter breaks will come and go but morning rain and drizzle in the

:00:12. > :00:13.south. Many of you will spend the afternoon dry and across southern

:00:14. > :00:18.area is a good deal milder than it will be today. Chilly across the

:00:19. > :00:24.north-east of Scotland, where again there could be of frost to go into

:00:25. > :00:27.Sunday. Sunday, another dry and reasonably sunny day. Right across

:00:28. > :00:31.eastern part of England. It does stay cloudy for most with spots of

:00:32. > :00:36.rain and drizzle in the West and temperatures higher than they should

:00:37. > :00:42.be. Warmer than it has been, peaking at 11 degrees in the south-west of

:00:43. > :00:46.England. Whilst we get milder this weekend, it gets colder to the east

:00:47. > :00:50.of Europe. Athens, barely above freezing on Sunday. Moscow, a high

:00:51. > :00:55.of -25 degrees. Too cold for me. Hello, I'm Joanna Gosling

:00:56. > :00:57.in for Victoria Derbyshire. Postal workers are delivering drugs

:00:58. > :01:11.bought on the so-called dark web, unaware of what they are handing

:01:12. > :01:13.over and with few checks. A major inquiry is promised into

:01:14. > :01:16.the changing nature of cyber crime. And more people than ever

:01:17. > :01:18.with mental health problems are being kept in hospitals

:01:19. > :01:21.for longer than necessary because of problems finding care

:01:22. > :01:23.for them when they leave. We talk to a man who says he felt

:01:24. > :01:26.like he'd been kidnapped after being kept on a secure ward

:01:27. > :01:34.unnecessarily for months. It puts things in perspective. There

:01:35. > :01:37.are people with so much power and they can keep you locked up, no one

:01:38. > :01:40.bats an eyelid. One of London's most iconic

:01:41. > :01:43.nightclubs which reopens its doors again this weekend with tough

:01:44. > :01:45.security and zero tolerance Now, let's get a summary of the news

:01:46. > :01:55.from the BBC Newsroom. Donald Trump's doubts over

:01:56. > :01:59.the judgement of America's intelligence chiefs has been

:02:00. > :02:01.attacked as "absolutely mindless" by the outgoing US vice

:02:02. > :02:06.president Joe Biden. The President-elect is due to meet

:02:07. > :02:08.intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

:02:09. > :02:11.tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

:02:12. > :02:14.criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

:02:15. > :02:17.and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

:02:18. > :02:28.intelligence advisers quit his team. Russia says it is withdrawing

:02:29. > :02:31.its aircraft carrier and some other warships from the waters off Syria

:02:32. > :02:34.as the first step in drawing Moscow has been a key supporter

:02:35. > :02:37.of Syrian President Bashar Assad's government and forces in the Mideast

:02:38. > :02:42.country's devastating civil war. Russian General Staff chief

:02:43. > :02:46.Valery Gerasimov said that the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier

:02:47. > :03:03.and accompanying ships New figures from NHS England showed

:03:04. > :03:06.slightly fewer patients attended AMD departments between Christmas and

:03:07. > :03:11.New Year as compared to earlier in December. The total was just over

:03:12. > :03:15.370,000. The run-up to Christmas itself also quieter.

:03:16. > :03:17.Delays in discharging people from hospital are rising more

:03:18. > :03:20.rapidly in mental health trusts than other parts of the NHS

:03:21. > :03:24.NHS England data found a 56% rise in the number of bed days lost

:03:25. > :03:26.to delayed discharge in psychiatric trusts in October 2016

:03:27. > :03:33.Ministers said they will be spending ?400 million to ensure mental health

:03:34. > :03:39.teams can provide support to people in their homes.

:03:40. > :03:42.A man will appear in court today in connection with a police

:03:43. > :03:43.operation on the M62 near Huddersfield,

:03:44. > :03:47.28 year-old Yassar Yaqub died after firearms

:03:48. > :03:53.officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip road.

:03:54. > :03:55.Moshin Amin, who is 30 and from Dewsbury, has been charged

:03:56. > :04:10.Chris Grayling is urging Southern Rail staff to suspend industrial

:04:11. > :04:14.action, saying there is no safety excuse for it to continue.

:04:15. > :04:17.The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

:04:18. > :04:19.days of strike action on the Southern Rail

:04:20. > :04:22.That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

:04:23. > :04:23.claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

:04:24. > :04:35.British Airways says customers will be able to fly to their destinations

:04:36. > :04:39.during a 48-hour strike by cabin crew next Tuesday although a small

:04:40. > :04:44.number of flights will be merged. Members of Unite will walk out for

:04:45. > :04:48.48 hours next Tuesday. The failure to predict the financial

:04:49. > :04:51.crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish" moment for economists,

:04:52. > :04:53.the Bank of England's Andy Haldane compared financial

:04:54. > :04:56.forecasts to the famously inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC

:04:57. > :04:58.weatherman ahead of the UK's Mr Haldane said the profession

:04:59. > :05:02.was "to some degree in crisis" following the crash

:05:03. > :05:08.and the Brexit vote. The Indian actor, Om Puri,

:05:09. > :05:11.who starred in the British comedy East is East has died

:05:12. > :05:14.of a suspected heart attack. Om Puri also appeared in other

:05:15. > :05:18.films, including Gandhi, and more recently he played opposite

:05:19. > :05:21.Dame Helen Mirren in That's a summary of the latest BBC

:05:22. > :05:35.News - more at 10:30am. Lots of you are reacting to the news

:05:36. > :05:38.that more people than ever with mental health problems are being

:05:39. > :05:41.kept in hospital for longer than necessary because of difficulties

:05:42. > :05:47.finding somewhere for them to go once it has been agreed they can be

:05:48. > :05:51.discharged. One viewer has said, hospital social services and

:05:52. > :05:57.computer systems aren't compatible soap assessments are lost, repeated

:05:58. > :06:10.not clear. Another says, reduce the number of beds, no saved money is

:06:11. > :06:13.reinvested. Andy has tweeted to say, I work in mental health support,

:06:14. > :06:17.funding cut every year and every time they announce extra funding

:06:18. > :06:22.they've vulnerable you find it isn't really new.

:06:23. > :06:24.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:06:25. > :06:28.use the hashtag Victoria LIVE and If you text, you will be charged

:06:29. > :06:33.It's one of the biggest weekends of the football calendar,

:06:34. > :06:36.it's FA Cup third round weekend, the point where Premier League

:06:37. > :06:38.and Championship teams enter the competition.

:06:39. > :06:41.The first tie of the is live on BBC One and this evening,

:06:42. > :06:43.and sees Manchester City visit the London Stadium to

:06:44. > :06:53.City boss Pep Guardiola is excited for his first taste of the Cup.

:06:54. > :07:02.What I hear here before is the cup is special because the lower teams

:07:03. > :07:08.can beat the big teams. That's why it's so fascinating. It can happen

:07:09. > :07:12.in the cup as well and that's why I'm looking forward to it. Of course

:07:13. > :07:16.the Premier League game will be tough.

:07:17. > :07:26.A big game for us, the big game for them. It is FA Cup. Big game for

:07:27. > :07:32.both clubs. It is for the fans of course. I'm sure there are going to

:07:33. > :07:35.again put very strong teams. Following the likes to Carlos Tevez,

:07:36. > :07:38.Demba Ba and Oscar, the Chinese Super League has picked

:07:39. > :07:40.up another high profile player. Nigeria's Jon Obi Mikel

:07:41. > :07:42.follows former Chelsea teammate Oscar to China,

:07:43. > :07:45.joining Tianjin Teda FC. In an emotional letter to his

:07:46. > :07:47."Chelsea family" on social media, the midfielder thanked fans

:07:48. > :07:49.for making the "impossible, Sir Andy Murray is starting 2017,

:07:50. > :08:03.much in the same way he ended 2016 - He's now into the semifinals

:08:04. > :08:08.of the Qatar Open with a win over For his second match in a row

:08:09. > :08:12.there was a tiebreak in the opening He took the second 7-5, and faces

:08:13. > :08:16.third seed Tomas Berdych next. Bad news for Johanna Konta though,

:08:17. > :08:19.she missed out on a place in the Shenzhen Open final

:08:20. > :08:23.after a shock defeat to Czech world And that's all the sport

:08:24. > :08:30.for now, I'll be back There's going to be a "major

:08:31. > :08:38.inquiry" into how the police That's according to Yvette Cooper,

:08:39. > :08:43.who chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee, which looks at how

:08:44. > :08:45.the governments doing when it She's been speaking to the BBC

:08:46. > :08:50.after a Newsbeat investigation revealed claims that an increasing

:08:51. > :08:53.amount of illegal drugs are being It's an illegal trade

:08:54. > :08:58.worth millions, and it means your local postman could,

:08:59. > :09:01.unwittingly, be delivering drugs More and more people are buying

:09:02. > :09:06.drugs on the Dark Web, Are the final point

:09:07. > :09:12.in the drug dealing chain. You tell the managers,

:09:13. > :09:20.and all they say is, If you see the person

:09:21. > :09:25.it is delivered to, just tell He is not alone in telling us

:09:26. > :09:30.that he has had suspicious We've been on forums

:09:31. > :09:35.used by postal workers, and heard the same stories

:09:36. > :09:37.of parcels which smell We spent a few hours outside of one

:09:38. > :09:41.of the largest sorting offices But, none of them would speak

:09:42. > :09:45.on camera, for fear The Royal Mail told us that it does

:09:46. > :09:49.not knowingly carry any illegal But getting drugs online

:09:50. > :09:53.is becoming more popular, He would only speak to us

:09:54. > :09:59.if we protected his identity. It was cheaper, and you

:10:00. > :10:03.had a smaller chance Me and my friend have found it

:10:04. > :10:08.incredibly funny how she hands it over to us and says,

:10:09. > :10:10.thank you very much. I looked at her and went "No,

:10:11. > :10:13.thank you very much". She walked off, completely

:10:14. > :10:15.unaware that she was part This part of London used to be

:10:16. > :10:20.home to a lot of shops where you could buy legal highs

:10:21. > :10:23.or use psychoactive substances. The government says its new laws

:10:24. > :10:26.to tackle this has meant that But, we managed to get these

:10:27. > :10:30.drugs on the Dark Web, We asked the government

:10:31. > :10:34.to come on and speak to us They say that they are spending

:10:35. > :10:38.?1.9 billion over the next five So, how easy was it to buy those

:10:39. > :10:44.drugs on the Dark Web? We've come to meet Chris,

:10:45. > :10:46.an independent security Everything about it is pretty much

:10:47. > :10:52.like eBay, except it looks Yes, the technology is not

:10:53. > :10:59.as mature, but you are seeing an anonymous website which is hard

:11:00. > :11:04.to track down indeed. At the end of the session,

:11:05. > :11:07.we bought three different drugs. Ecstasy, some marijuana, and

:11:08. > :11:11.synthetic cannabis, known as spice. It is taken out of your

:11:12. > :11:13.wallet, and then... A few days later, all

:11:14. > :11:16.three parcels arrived. We took them to this government

:11:17. > :11:18.approved testing lab... There is no way that every single

:11:19. > :11:24.item could be opened. There would be backlogs

:11:25. > :11:29.upon backlogs. So, they are trained on things

:11:30. > :11:32.that look suspicious. It may have only been three samples,

:11:33. > :11:38.that the testing proved that everything we bought on the Dark Web

:11:39. > :11:49.was as described. Raising the question, what needs to

:11:50. > :11:53.be done to stop this deadly trade? Police and authorities need to keep

:11:54. > :11:57.up with new technology. It isn't easy but the police can't do it

:11:58. > :12:01.alone. They've got to be able to collaborate with other organisations

:12:02. > :12:04.including customs, the postal service, and learn from what other

:12:05. > :12:08.countries are doing. She says more can be done but how will the

:12:09. > :12:11.authorities tackle a global issue where every time an online

:12:12. > :12:15.marketplaces shut down, another pops up to replace it?

:12:16. > :12:17.Let's talk now to Jamie Bartlett, who's from the Centre

:12:18. > :12:20.for the Analysis of Social Media at the think tank Demos

:12:21. > :12:22.and author of The Dark Net: Inside the Digital Underworld

:12:23. > :12:25.and Dr Adam Winstock is a consultant psychiatrist and founder

:12:26. > :12:27.of the Global Drugs Survey, the biggest drugs

:12:28. > :12:37.Thank you for joining us. You've been looking into what's been going

:12:38. > :12:42.on on the dark web for some time, how much drug dealing is going on,

:12:43. > :12:46.what is the proportion happening there? It's quite difficult to tell

:12:47. > :12:52.because it's quite secretive place, but there are dozens of sites like

:12:53. > :12:57.ones we've just seen which offer an Amazon or eBay style service selling

:12:58. > :13:01.drugs. From hundreds, maybe thousands of fenders. In terms of

:13:02. > :13:07.the actual amount, I think it's tens, maybe hundreds of millions of

:13:08. > :13:12.pounds a year. That's got to be put into context. The global drugs trade

:13:13. > :13:19.offline is far bigger than that. I think we're going to hear from the

:13:20. > :13:25.global drug survey, we found one in five users have purchased drugs from

:13:26. > :13:29.the dark web. It doesn't mean they've use them themselves of

:13:30. > :13:33.course. I think that's going to grow because people are attracted to,

:13:34. > :13:37.frankly, what is for many users a better offer online and they can get

:13:38. > :13:42.offline. They don't have to go somewhere that feels dodgy... Dodgy

:13:43. > :13:46.street corners. It is still dangerous but you aren't out on the

:13:47. > :13:50.streets. Because it's a competitive market, a lot of users reported

:13:51. > :13:56.better quality products. Fenders are competing with each other for your

:13:57. > :14:01.custom -- fenders. Quality goes up and price goes down. Adam, you are

:14:02. > :14:06.the founder of the global drugs survey, that some figures on this in

:14:07. > :14:10.terms of the scale. We've been tracking this for the last five

:14:11. > :14:14.years, and it has increased year on year. I think one of the interesting

:14:15. > :14:18.things is those countries that have got some of the highest interest in

:14:19. > :14:22.buying drugs on the dark net are those with the most punitive drug

:14:23. > :14:29.regimes. Countries such as Sweden and Norway. In countries like

:14:30. > :14:33.Australia, America, the UK, the attraction of a broader range of

:14:34. > :14:41.drugs delivered to your door with the possibility of better quality is

:14:42. > :14:45.going to make those marketplaces increasingly popular. Is it roaring

:14:46. > :14:49.in people who previously might not have touched drugs at all or is it

:14:50. > :14:52.changing the way people who would have done it anyway go about getting

:14:53. > :15:02.them? -- drawing in people. It is those people who are already

:15:03. > :15:08.involved in using illicit drugs. We might draw people back into using

:15:09. > :15:13.illicit drugs who lost contact with street dealers. One thing we are

:15:14. > :15:18.seeing, about a third of users are increasing their drug using

:15:19. > :15:30.repertoire. LSD and other drugs, perhaps you would like DMT? There is

:15:31. > :15:34.the possibility of people are expanding their repertoire. Jamie,

:15:35. > :15:39.you describe it as Amazon or eBay. Hurdles have to be crossed to get

:15:40. > :15:44.into this part of the web, but it is not that difficult to do, as we have

:15:45. > :15:47.seen. Why does it not translate into the security services, intelligence

:15:48. > :15:56.agencies being able to crack down on it? It isn't as difficult as people

:15:57. > :15:59.imagine to get onto this part of the Internet. But it is difficult for

:16:00. > :16:06.the authorities to know what people are doing when they are there. You

:16:07. > :16:11.have powerful encryption which means people on their keep their IP

:16:12. > :16:16.address obscure or hidden. The sites themselves are difficult to remove

:16:17. > :16:20.entirely from the nets. That sounds almost impossible, but the way

:16:21. > :16:26.modern encryption works, in fact it is a relatively secure place. The

:16:27. > :16:28.difficulty is, I think for the authorities, although they are

:16:29. > :16:33.trying much more now than they were a few years ago to undermine these

:16:34. > :16:37.markets and infiltrate these markets, in an old-fashioned

:16:38. > :16:43.policing sense, they don't want to destroy the entire network. Because

:16:44. > :16:46.the encryption on which the dark net depends, is valuable for

:16:47. > :16:51.whistle-blowers and journalists and for human rights activists around

:16:52. > :16:56.the world. This dark net has an important social function as well.

:16:57. > :17:00.It is unfortunate it is always going to be, as has always been the case,

:17:01. > :17:07.used by people for criminal purposes as well as for good. Adam, is much

:17:08. > :17:10.being done to crack down on the drug dealing online, have there been many

:17:11. > :17:17.arrests of people dealing or people buying? It is incredibly difficult

:17:18. > :17:21.for the police to identify who is buying drugs online and whether or

:17:22. > :17:28.not it is the best investment of their time. Where we need to spend

:17:29. > :17:36.more time is thinking what the impact is having better access to

:17:37. > :17:40.drugs online and the global drug survey is looking exactly how the

:17:41. > :17:46.dark net access is altering people's drug use. It may not always be for

:17:47. > :17:54.harmful effects. You could see some benefits could come out of it. There

:17:55. > :18:02.was a doctor, -- as a doctor I worry it could develop somebody's drug use

:18:03. > :18:07.and also develop better products. The police say they will spend more

:18:08. > :18:11.money on cyber crime over the next five years. How best will the money

:18:12. > :18:15.be spent? You cite the example of what has happened in New Zealand as

:18:16. > :18:20.a way of potentially looking at these issues? New Zealand benefits

:18:21. > :18:25.from having secure borders and a relatively small population. The

:18:26. > :18:30.amount of postal traffic is relatively little compared to the

:18:31. > :18:34.UK. There is good collaboration between Customs, the police and the

:18:35. > :18:40.postal services. Trying to replicate that in the UK with a population

:18:41. > :18:44.that is ten times the size, it is going to be really difficult. It is

:18:45. > :18:50.a good opportunity for the government to start thinking about

:18:51. > :18:59.other ways of producing drug-related harm, or just banning them. We have

:19:00. > :19:03.to educate people about the risks, but also how to use them more

:19:04. > :19:09.safely. It is something we have to look at more carefully. Jamie, in

:19:10. > :19:12.the report we heard how the post people delivering these parcels

:19:13. > :19:16.sometimes know what is in them because they can smell it. But it

:19:17. > :19:23.seems not much is being done to actually clamp down on it. Why

:19:24. > :19:28.aren't there sniffer dogs? It is so difficult to do. If you look at it,

:19:29. > :19:32.there is something like a billion pieces of mail delivered every year

:19:33. > :19:40.by the Royal Mail. A fraction of that will be illegal drugs. So spot

:19:41. > :19:47.testing and random checks will not pick up on everything. As you saw,

:19:48. > :19:52.you can hear some pills in a bottle, but you don't know if they are

:19:53. > :19:57.illegal or not. The truth is, people who are selling these drugs are

:19:58. > :20:02.very, very good at hiding them. They are obscured or hidden within junk

:20:03. > :20:06.mail. Inside sweet packets and aerosol cans which make it difficult

:20:07. > :20:12.for the sniffer dogs and anyone else to guess what they are. Even though,

:20:13. > :20:16.yes, the postal service is sometimes delivering drugs, it is unfair to

:20:17. > :20:22.criticise them for it because it is so difficult for them to know. Thank

:20:23. > :20:27.you both. Gavin has treated, complete overhaul of the UK drug

:20:28. > :20:32.laws is needed. A tweet from Hannah says, drugs need to be legalised and

:20:33. > :20:37.regulated. People will never stop using them, let's make it safe and

:20:38. > :20:40.tax it. A tweet said prohibition is a problem. The only answer is to

:20:41. > :20:42.legalise and regulate drugs. Anything else is a fight that cannot

:20:43. > :20:44.be won. And you can see that full

:20:45. > :20:55.Newsbeat documentary Drugs A police force is trying a new

:20:56. > :21:00.approach to bring in a burglary suspect who has been evading

:21:01. > :21:02.officers. We will be talking about that in a few moments.

:21:03. > :21:05.The funeral of the man who was killed during a police

:21:06. > :21:07.operation in West Yorkshire on Monday is taking place

:21:08. > :21:15.28-year-old Yassar Yaqub, was shot when police stopped

:21:16. > :21:18.a car near junction 24 of the M62 on Monday.

:21:19. > :21:22.The inquest found the provisional cause of death was gunshot wound to

:21:23. > :21:23.the chest. Another man is appearing

:21:24. > :21:25.court in Dewsbury today, Joining me now from Huddersfield

:21:26. > :21:38.is our correspondent, Judith Moritz. Judith, bring us up today with the

:21:39. > :21:41.latest in this investigation. Several different elements this

:21:42. > :21:46.morning to tell you about. The funeral here which took place a

:21:47. > :21:52.short time ago. Hundreds of mourners filled the mosque behind me and

:21:53. > :21:57.poured into the street as well. There were so many, they could not

:21:58. > :22:00.all fit inside. As the coffin of Yassar Yaqub was brought up the

:22:01. > :22:03.street, inside the mosque for a short time, about half an hour or

:22:04. > :22:10.so, then a few minutes ago he was taken away for burial. His family

:22:11. > :22:15.followed the Coffin. His mother's distress was audible. That service

:22:16. > :22:20.is happening now away from here. Elsewhere, there has been the

:22:21. > :22:23.inquest into the death of Yassar Yaqub. That was opened and adjourned

:22:24. > :22:30.this morning. Just a three-minute hearing. The coroner in that case

:22:31. > :22:34.will hear it more fully in March. It has been adjourned until the 31st of

:22:35. > :22:40.March. The details that did emerge this morning, Yassar Yaqub,

:22:41. > :22:47.28-year-old, he is single, his profession was given as an office

:22:48. > :22:51.clerk. The inquest found his provisional cause of death was

:22:52. > :22:56.gunshot wounds to the chest. And also the hearing heard a firearm was

:22:57. > :23:01.recovered from the front passenger foot well of the car in which Yassar

:23:02. > :23:06.Yaqub was travelling on Monday night, when he was shot by West

:23:07. > :23:11.Yorkshire Police. That inquest was opened and adjourned. Elsewhere in

:23:12. > :23:14.Yorkshire, this morning a court appearance is due at Leeds

:23:15. > :23:25.Magistrates' Court. That will be the first appearance of Moshin Amin, who

:23:26. > :23:30.was charged with firearms offences in connection with this case. We

:23:31. > :23:36.expected to be a relatively short hearing. Thing is getting underway

:23:37. > :23:38.in terms of the judicial process. The Independent Police Complaints

:23:39. > :23:44.Commission which is investigating this separately, that continues. We

:23:45. > :23:48.are yet to hear from them, any update today. But there is different

:23:49. > :23:53.things happening but the focus for the family of Yassar Yaqub, who have

:23:54. > :23:56.spoken to the media and also friends of his who spoke to us this morning,

:23:57. > :24:03.their focus is about paying tribute to him and morning for someone they

:24:04. > :24:08.say was very well loved in his community and will be sadly missed.

:24:09. > :24:13.One friend of Yassar Yaqub, should tell you, in the last few minutes

:24:14. > :24:18.told reporters, they feel this case bears similarities to that of Mark

:24:19. > :24:23.Duggan, the man who was shot in Tottenham in London by police in

:24:24. > :24:27.2011. Those similarities have been drawn by the family and friends of

:24:28. > :24:30.Yassar Yaqub today. Thank you, Judith.

:24:31. > :24:33.Russia says its withdrawing its aircraft carrier and some other

:24:34. > :24:36.warships from the waters off Syria as the first step in drawing down

:24:37. > :24:39.According to the state news agency, the defence ministry is starting

:24:40. > :24:42.to downsize armed forces in Syria in light of the recent ceasefire.

:24:43. > :24:46.It follows a major battle during which the Russian backed

:24:47. > :24:47.Syrian regime reclaimed the city of Aleppo.

:24:48. > :24:53.I'm joined by Famil Ismailov from the BBC Russia service.

:24:54. > :25:02.Thanks for coming in. Does this indicate they think, job done? The

:25:03. > :25:13.first question was asked, what was the job of the aircraft carrier?

:25:14. > :25:16.Also, the major battle cruiser, which was nuclear powered, they were

:25:17. > :25:24.sent to the area. But the question is asked because the aircraft

:25:25. > :25:33.carrier was shown later on, was not technically prepared to join the

:25:34. > :25:37.battle in Syria. It lost two aeroplanes, within probably a couple

:25:38. > :25:41.of weeks, within a month. The questions were asked, was it ready

:25:42. > :25:49.to go? If you look at the screen behind you, there is black smoke

:25:50. > :25:54.coming out of the carrier. That is not what is supposed to happen. Not

:25:55. > :25:59.how the aircraft carrier should be seen. But all the way it was coming

:26:00. > :26:06.from its base to the Mediterranean, it would show the engine was

:26:07. > :26:09.probably faulty. Russia has played a very active role in Syria, what

:26:10. > :26:17.capability remains, what is likely to happen now? After the naval group

:26:18. > :26:23.will leave, we will see attempts by Russian and Turkish diplomats and

:26:24. > :26:28.military to hold the ceasefire in the main battlefields in Syria. We

:26:29. > :26:32.have seen some clashes near Damascus and clashes in other places, but

:26:33. > :26:36.generally the ceasefire is holding. The question is, how long will it

:26:37. > :26:40.hold and how will a transfer into the negotiations which are expected

:26:41. > :26:48.to start on the 23rd of June in Kazakhstan. Thank you very much.

:26:49. > :26:57.Still to come... Clubbers will be able to return to Fabric, with a

:26:58. > :27:05.zero drugs policy. With the news, here's Anita McVeigh

:27:06. > :27:08.in the BBC Newsroom. Donald Trump's doubts over

:27:09. > :27:13.the judgement of America's intelligence chiefs has been

:27:14. > :27:15.attacked as "absolutely mindless" by the outgoing US vice

:27:16. > :27:17.president Joe Biden. The President-elect, is due to meet

:27:18. > :27:19.intelligence chiefs today, to discuss their claims that Russia

:27:20. > :27:22.tried to interfere in the American Mr Trump's been facing renewed

:27:23. > :27:26.criticism from senior Republicans and Democrats about his scepticism,

:27:27. > :27:30.and less than 24-hours before the meeting, one of his top

:27:31. > :27:37.intelligence advisers quit his team. Russia says it is withdrawing

:27:38. > :27:40.its aircraft carrier and some other warships from the waters off Syria

:27:41. > :27:43.as the first step in drawing Moscow has been a key supporter

:27:44. > :27:49.of Syrian President Bashar Assad's government and forces in the Mideast

:27:50. > :27:52.country's devastating civil war. Russian General Staff chief

:27:53. > :27:56.Valery Gerasimov said that the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier

:27:57. > :28:01.and accompanying ships New figures from NHS England show

:28:02. > :28:07.slightly fewer patients attended accident and emergency departments

:28:08. > :28:11.in England the week between Christmas and New Year,

:28:12. > :28:14.as compared to earlier in December. And the run up to Christmas itself

:28:15. > :28:21.was also quieter, the figures show. A man will appear in court today

:28:22. > :28:24.in connection with a police operation on the M62

:28:25. > :28:26.near Huddersfield, 28-year-old Yassar Yaqub

:28:27. > :28:31.died after firearms officers stopped a car

:28:32. > :28:36.he was in on a motorway slip road. Moshin Amin, who is 30

:28:37. > :28:39.and from Dewsbury, has been charged The Transport Secretary Chris

:28:40. > :28:44.Grayling is urging Southern Rail staff to suspend their industrial

:28:45. > :28:48.action, saying there's no "safety The train drivers' union Aslef says

:28:49. > :28:53.it will go ahead with three days of strike action

:28:54. > :28:55.on the Southern Rail That's despite a report

:28:56. > :29:00.by the Independent Rail Regulator claiming that trains

:29:01. > :29:18.with driver-operated doors, David Bowie only discovered his

:29:19. > :29:24.cancer was terminal three months before he died. He died last

:29:25. > :29:34.January, just days after the release of his album, Black Star. You can

:29:35. > :29:40.see a documentary, David Bowie, The Last Five Years tomorrow on BBC Two.

:29:41. > :29:44.That is a summary of the latest news. Join me for BBC newsroom live

:29:45. > :29:47.at 11 o'clock. A big weekend of FA Cup ties

:29:48. > :29:52.coming up, 32 matches The action starts tonight

:29:53. > :29:55.when Pep Guardiola's Manchester City For Guardiola, it's

:29:56. > :29:58.a new experience, he's never been involved in this Cup before and he's

:29:59. > :30:02.looking forward to what he describes Another Premier League player is

:30:03. > :30:09.moving to the Chinese Super League. Chelsea's John Obi Mikel

:30:10. > :30:11.is going to Tianjin Teda. Mikel joins other high profile

:30:12. > :30:14.names in making the move, including former Chelsea teammate

:30:15. > :30:18.Oscar. Sir Andy Murray is through to

:30:19. > :30:21.the last four of the Qatar Open. The World Number One beat

:30:22. > :30:24.Spain's Nicolas Almagro in straight sets to set up a semi-final

:30:25. > :30:30.with third seed Tomas Berdych. Top seed Johanna Konta missed out

:30:31. > :30:32.on a place in the final The British Number One was shocked

:30:33. > :30:37.by Czech world number 52 That's all from me for now,

:30:38. > :30:43.I'll have more on the BBC A police force's open letter

:30:44. > :30:53.to a suspected burglar, which included emojis and hashtags,

:30:54. > :30:55.has met with a mixed response. Kingston Police tweeted the note

:30:56. > :30:58.addressed to Tracey Dyke, In a two-page letter on Facebook,

:30:59. > :31:02.appealing for her to contact "Dear Tracey Dyke, We have come

:31:03. > :31:17.round to see you a number of times recently, but it looks like you'd

:31:18. > :31:19.rather not speak to us, We have a slight suspicion that

:31:20. > :31:23.you might be blanking us #Awkward. You don't text, you don't

:31:24. > :31:25.call back and haven't They go on to say Ms Dyke

:31:26. > :31:29.was a suspect in crimes involving The letter signs off with,

:31:30. > :31:32."Looking forward to seeing I'm joined now by our

:31:33. > :31:43.reporter, Sian Grzeszczyk. This is unusual, isn't it? Tell us

:31:44. > :31:48.more about it and what the reaction has been. It is very unusual, I

:31:49. > :31:53.haven't come across a tweet like this before. It has certainly

:31:54. > :31:58.divided opinion since it was tweeted 24 hours ago. Let me take you

:31:59. > :32:02.through some of the reaction. Some impressed, some are unimpressed. A

:32:03. > :32:07.lady called Christina said, this reads like what a schoolteacher

:32:08. > :32:15.types up on a newsletter to try and beat cool but just comes across as

:32:16. > :32:21.awkward. Another response described it as a clever and unexpected use of

:32:22. > :32:25.social media by a police force. The letter also doesn't just address

:32:26. > :32:30.Tracy but it urges members of the public if they see had to call 999.

:32:31. > :32:36.Comments just keep pouring in every time you look at the Twitter page

:32:37. > :32:40.for Kingston police. One person said, whatever happened to

:32:41. > :32:46.professionalism? Appalling conduct from social media team. It certainly

:32:47. > :32:50.got people talking about it. What have Kingston police said? They

:32:51. > :32:53.haven't got back to meet with the answers to my questions. Their

:32:54. > :32:58.reaction to how people have perceived this open letter to

:32:59. > :33:02.Tracey, and why they decided to do it, who did it and whether this is a

:33:03. > :33:07.new approach to finding wanted people. They haven't got back to me

:33:08. > :33:12.yet, we don't know whether Tracey has got in touch or not. Their

:33:13. > :33:16.police colleagues in Lewisham said, we think you are a friendly bunch as

:33:17. > :33:26.well, I hope Tracey returns your call soon. Thank you. A team of

:33:27. > :33:34.British doctors have travelled to the Syria- Turkey border.

:33:35. > :33:37.Aid workers plan to use the equipment to set up a children's

:33:38. > :33:40.Rola Hallam did a video blog of the journey,

:33:41. > :33:42.she arrived at the border on 23rd December.

:33:43. > :33:48.My first thought right now is of this freezing cold weather

:33:49. > :34:19.and of how many people are homeless, displaced, and refugees.

:34:20. > :34:23.We had a bit of delay yesterday with the truck held up

:34:24. > :34:28.We're back on the move, the team is an amazing spirits,

:34:29. > :34:55.and I look forward to keeping you updated as we go along.

:34:56. > :34:58.We have covered about 850 miles so far and we've got

:34:59. > :35:03.We're progressing really, really well.

:35:04. > :35:07.Our truck is a little while behind us because they have to go a bit

:35:08. > :35:18.slower and have a bit more rest due to regulations.

:35:19. > :35:34.So we're making our way through Bulgaria, we're a bit behind

:35:35. > :35:36.schedule and we've just been told the border ahead is maybe closed

:35:37. > :35:39.and there's a few hours waiting because there are lots of trucks

:35:40. > :35:54.Great news, the convoy has just made it into Turkey!

:35:55. > :36:03.The guard thought that Paul was Iranian and asked him

:36:04. > :36:17.for all forms of ID to actually prove he was indeed a Scouser.

:36:18. > :36:21.We've been on the road for about four hours and we've hit

:36:22. > :36:22.a massive snowstorm, and we've been told

:36:23. > :36:29.We're really not sure about how well we're going to be able

:36:30. > :36:55.The people's convoy arrived safely, powered by your love and support

:36:56. > :37:07.It was a really emotional, beautiful union with the independent

:37:08. > :37:12.They are going to call the hospital Hope Hospital.

:37:13. > :37:29.Since 2008, London has lost 50% of its nightclubs and 40%

:37:30. > :37:31.of its live music venues, despite Night Time industries being

:37:32. > :37:35.Fabric nightclub, one the most iconic venues in the capital,

:37:36. > :37:39.was stripped of its licence and forced to close in September

:37:40. > :37:46.after the drug-related deaths of two 18-year-olds.

:37:47. > :37:49.Many saw it as an attack on dance culture, and the club

:37:50. > :37:51.started a campaign that raised over ?300,000.

:37:52. > :37:53.This weekend, the club will reopen, after Islington council agreed

:37:54. > :37:58.The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has welcomed the decision,

:37:59. > :38:02.and said he and his newly appointed "night czar", Amy Lame, were working

:38:03. > :38:06.New conditions mean the venue will refuse entry to under-19s,

:38:07. > :38:12.and will have tougher security measures to clamp down on drugs.

:38:13. > :38:15.Let's talk now to Philip Kolvin, the barrister who helped Fabric

:38:16. > :38:17.to strike an agreement with Islington council.

:38:18. > :38:21.Since then, London Mayor Sadiq Khan has appointed him as Chairman

:38:22. > :38:30.Alan Miller from the Night Time Industries Association campaigns

:38:31. > :38:33.to make sure the night industry across the country is

:38:34. > :38:39.Also joining us is American techno DJ and producer Seth Troxler,

:38:40. > :38:41.who donated ?4,000 to the campaign to keep the club open.

:38:42. > :38:49.He'll be headlining the Fabric reunion night on Saturday.

:38:50. > :38:55.Thank you for joining us. Tell us more about what the case was for

:38:56. > :39:02.reopening. It lost its licence because it breach it. The process

:39:03. > :39:07.was one of dialogue within Clinton Council. It's really important to

:39:08. > :39:10.say this. Although the Islington revoked the licence it was

:39:11. > :39:14.immediately prepared to enter into a good dialogue as to what

:39:15. > :39:19.professionally could be done to make clubbers safer in Fabric. But

:39:20. > :39:24.involved better security at the door, and enhanced security

:39:25. > :39:27.provision inside, and also better welfare facilities. So if somebody

:39:28. > :39:29.is feeling poorly they are identified and dealt with

:39:30. > :39:33.straightaway. All of that was dealt with through a number of technical

:39:34. > :39:41.discussions which led to a tripartite agreement between Fabric,

:39:42. > :39:45.the council and the police. What does this mean going forward? Does

:39:46. > :39:49.this set a precedent and indicate there is always the way back? I

:39:50. > :39:54.always believe there is a way back. I think closure of a nightclub

:39:55. > :39:58.should always be a last resort. Nobody closes factory when there's

:39:59. > :40:02.an accident, nobody closes an outline when there's an accident. If

:40:03. > :40:05.something goes wrong, it's important the parties sit down together early

:40:06. > :40:09.and work out what the best way forward is. One of the best things

:40:10. > :40:13.about the night-time commission is we are going to try to make sure

:40:14. > :40:17.that is the first port of call to get the parties sitting down and

:40:18. > :40:22.talking, before it comes to closure. There's probably no other club in

:40:23. > :40:26.the country that could have mustered resource and support that Fabric

:40:27. > :40:29.mustard to keep themselves open. 7000 people helped fund their

:40:30. > :40:35.campaign stay open. Otherwise it would have been gone. In the end can

:40:36. > :40:41.any club ever guarantee it's going to keep drugs out and people save?

:40:42. > :40:49.It's like life. It's like our prisons. During the hearing it said

:40:50. > :40:54.Pentonville had a better record than Fabric. But that isn't the case.

:40:55. > :40:59.Drugs are quite ubiquitous in society. I don't think it's fair or

:41:00. > :41:05.legitimate to ask my clubs, bars or cafes to somehow be different to the

:41:06. > :41:10.rest of society. But they operate under licence. They do indeed but

:41:11. > :41:13.when they've done the measures in terms of security and checks, what

:41:14. > :41:18.we find is increasingly they are being asked to do more things. More

:41:19. > :41:22.and more conditions are imposed on them. Not everyone has the same

:41:23. > :41:27.approach. When we have an incident, the question could be asked, how did

:41:28. > :41:30.the drugs get to the club in the first place? I think it's a

:41:31. > :41:34.conversation for people in Britain. People do take drugs, how do we want

:41:35. > :41:39.to solve that as a society. Not just say we have a knee jerk reaction to

:41:40. > :41:43.clubs and bars. This club is reopening on the basis of promoting

:41:44. > :41:47.zero tolerance of drugs. In the end is any club going to be completely

:41:48. > :41:56.zero tolerant of drugs? No one in Britain is allowed to say that they

:41:57. > :42:01.can't do that, that somehow there is this thing in society that people

:42:02. > :42:04.are doing, because then they will be penalised for encouraging it.

:42:05. > :42:09.Although there are some good examples... Are you saying the

:42:10. > :42:13.practice isn't going to match up to the rhetoric? Fabric had a gold

:42:14. > :42:20.standard, now it is a platinum standard. They have a amazing due

:42:21. > :42:26.diligence and professionalism. In the last year or two, things like

:42:27. > :42:31.harm reduction and drug testing have been worked on with certain police

:42:32. > :42:35.forces. In places like Switzerland you've got on the spot drug testing

:42:36. > :42:38.where 1 million people go to a festival where there are no

:42:39. > :42:41.fatalities. If it's about public health and safety, we need to have a

:42:42. > :42:45.grown-up conversation about mitigating problems. And not just

:42:46. > :42:50.saying if drugs are found inside or outside a club, that we have a knee

:42:51. > :42:56.jerk reaction to close at. Are drugs an integral part of clubbing

:42:57. > :42:59.culture? I did think so. Drugs are a social problem. You were talking

:43:00. > :43:03.about hundreds of millions of dollars on drugs coming through the

:43:04. > :43:07.Royal Mail. This isn't only a club problem. If you look at pop culture,

:43:08. > :43:12.drugs are littered throughout culture. The idea that dance music

:43:13. > :43:16.culture is to blame is ridiculous. Right now we are celebrating... It's

:43:17. > :43:22.about how much drugs are in clubs, when they are operating under

:43:23. > :43:30.licence... Drugs are in bars, casinos, concerts... A lot of people

:43:31. > :43:36.go out to celebrate life. Fabric, like other clubs, there is a club in

:43:37. > :43:41.Berlin which was given the highest approval of high culture. It's the

:43:42. > :43:43.only club that gone back and forth between Fabric of being the number

:43:44. > :43:47.one club in the world. In Germany they consider it the number one

:43:48. > :43:50.source of culture. Yes there are drug deaths there. There are drug

:43:51. > :43:54.deaths on the street right now in London because of the heroin

:43:55. > :43:59.epidemic. But no one is talking about that. This is a story where

:44:00. > :44:01.the council was trying to gentrify the neighbourhood, and using Fabric

:44:02. > :44:08.as an example for their greater wealth. There are deaths all the

:44:09. > :44:13.time, it is not to trivialise them, but on our motorways and beaches, we

:44:14. > :44:18.see all sorts of problems occur in various walks of life. We work out

:44:19. > :44:21.how to mitigate, resolve all emit them together. We don't say we are

:44:22. > :44:25.just going to shut down the airport or closed shopping centre when there

:44:26. > :44:30.is a mugging or a stabbing. When it comes to bars and clubs, the notion

:44:31. > :44:33.that they are responsible for all personal behaviour, not only is that

:44:34. > :44:38.unrealistic but it also takes away the autonomy of our citizens. The

:44:39. > :44:42.notion that under English law you are responsible for your own

:44:43. > :44:45.conduct. We have to say, how can we make our cities truly creative and

:44:46. > :44:51.dynamic together by working in partnership? What happens if there

:44:52. > :44:58.is another drug step that Fabric? You cannot guarantee there will

:44:59. > :45:01.never be a drug death in a club, Street, Park or anywhere else. What

:45:02. > :45:06.we want to see from clubs is that they are using due diligence,

:45:07. > :45:09.operating best practice, being honest and straightforward and

:45:10. > :45:13.transparent with your parities. I hope that one of the things that we

:45:14. > :45:16.are going to be able to do in the night-time commission is to explain

:45:17. > :45:22.and express good practice for all licensed premises. If they are

:45:23. > :45:26.operating under Best practice and a tragedy occurs, then of course they

:45:27. > :45:30.shouldn't be shut down. Thank you. Let us know your thoughts on that.

:45:31. > :45:33.A short time ago I spoke to former EastEnders actor Nitin Ganatra,

:45:34. > :45:35.who starred alongside Om Puri in the BBC's adaption

:45:36. > :45:47.He told us how the actor inspired him as a child.

:45:48. > :45:55.It was a rare occasion when my family went to see a British film in

:45:56. > :46:00.the Midlands. It was Richard Attenborough's Gandhi. As a

:46:01. > :46:05.teenager, I had to sit through the lecture of India's history. Then a

:46:06. > :46:13.scene in the film which was astonishing. A tiny scene, it was a

:46:14. > :46:19.cameo and it had such a huge impact on me. I have never forgotten it.

:46:20. > :46:24.Years later it turned out to be Om Puri, when I did my research. Of

:46:25. > :46:30.course, after that, I had the honour of working with him twice on

:46:31. > :46:35.projects. I did tell him that story. What was it about that moment and

:46:36. > :46:42.about him that connected with you as a 13-year-old boy? It is very

:46:43. > :46:48.profound, the memory of that experience, watching an actor

:46:49. > :46:52.storming into a scene. It was so powerful, so full of energy and so

:46:53. > :46:58.truthful, I had never seen anything like it. It has stuck with me. I

:46:59. > :47:03.think it had such a profound effect, it had a big influence on what I

:47:04. > :47:06.wanted to achieve as an actor. When you came to meet him and act

:47:07. > :47:13.alongside him, you told him about that story, what was he like? He was

:47:14. > :47:20.great. Om Puri, he has a very angry resting face. But when he breaks out

:47:21. > :47:26.into a smile, the room lights up. And he was a very gentle man and

:47:27. > :47:32.full of humour. Completely took me under his wing. I loved working with

:47:33. > :47:37.him. We live side-by-side, working as equals. His only regret with me

:47:38. > :47:42.was that I wasn't Punjabi enough for him. I remember one day on set, I

:47:43. > :47:48.said I fancied a particular Indian dish. His wife had just come over

:47:49. > :47:54.from India and Cork. There it was the next day, he said my wife cooked

:47:55. > :47:58.the year. He was very lovely, he made every experience like a family

:47:59. > :48:03.gathering of eat, drink and work and be happy. A couple of weeks ago he

:48:04. > :48:08.tweeted about his life and career and said I have no regrets. I have

:48:09. > :48:12.done quite well for myself, I didn't have a conventional face, but I have

:48:13. > :48:22.done well and I am proud of it. How would you sum up his achievements?

:48:23. > :48:28.Absolutely, absolutely. Hollywood and bollywood have a particular

:48:29. > :48:34.look, handsome looking with a great set of teach. Om Puri broke that

:48:35. > :48:38.mould because he wasn't your archetypal heart-throb. His career

:48:39. > :48:43.was huge. He has done hundreds of films. But he has brought truth to

:48:44. > :48:48.what could be a very shallow industry and he has bought a

:48:49. > :48:54.gravitas nobody can match. It was a great honour for me to work with

:48:55. > :48:58.him. He's also one of guys who has managed to work in Britain, he has

:48:59. > :49:02.worked in Hollywood alongside Tom Hanks and Helen Mirren, as you

:49:03. > :49:08.showed. But that all boils down to the truth and power of his acting.

:49:09. > :49:10.In the last few minutes, the winner of the BBC's Sound

:49:11. > :49:29.This year number one is... Ray black. Ray black. She is amazing.

:49:30. > :49:37.Ray black. That is Ray Black -

:49:38. > :49:40.an R'n'B soul singer who has topped the BBC's Sound of 2017 list,

:49:41. > :49:43.which highlights the most exciting Ray was chosen by more

:49:44. > :49:47.than a hundred DJs, journalists, festival bookers,

:49:48. > :49:48.bloggers and critics. Their track record is good -

:49:49. > :49:51.having previously spotted the likes We will speak to Ray in just

:49:52. > :49:56.a moment, but before that let's have a look back at some

:49:57. > :49:58.of the artists who've # Should I give up, or should I just

:49:59. > :50:28.keep chasing pavements? # Everybody's starry-eyed,

:50:29. > :50:37.and everybody goes. # Everybody's starry-eyed,

:50:38. > :50:49.and my body goes...#. # Flyin' flyin' flyin'

:50:50. > :51:00.flyin' through the sky. # In my spaceship, I'm

:51:01. > :51:35.an alien tonight...#. Withers is the winner, Ray Black. We

:51:36. > :51:38.also have some on from the BBC music live team. Congratulations. You have

:51:39. > :51:42.been following in the footsteps of some very successful people? How

:51:43. > :51:53.does it feel less remarked it feels incredible. How did you react when

:51:54. > :51:57.you knew you had one? I screamed, jumped for joy, it was amazing. Like

:51:58. > :52:02.the most shocking news I have ever got. Is it spotting talent for the

:52:03. > :52:07.future, a lot of people watching won't be familiar with your music,

:52:08. > :52:12.tell us about your music and what your inspirations are? I grew up in

:52:13. > :52:17.the church, started in the Gospel choir and joined the adult choir at

:52:18. > :52:24.about 11 or 12. I had always written songs from about seven years old up

:52:25. > :52:31.until now. From seven? From seven, they weren't that good! But they are

:52:32. > :52:41.better now. I got into soul music. Let's have a listen, this is chill

:52:42. > :52:54.out? Yes. # The only one you when you are

:52:55. > :53:03.lonely on a late nights, on Friday. # I don't get what you feel, no.

:53:04. > :53:08.# You are making a big deal of nothing.

:53:09. > :53:21.# You should chill. # Don't say you were misled.

:53:22. > :53:28.# You hurt me with the sled. # You are making a big deal, I think

:53:29. > :53:35.you should chill. # I know you thought that you and me

:53:36. > :53:47.were onto something. # But I had no plans of loving you.

:53:48. > :53:50.# Wanting the music and striking videos, tell us more about the video

:53:51. > :53:58.message you are trying to get across? My music in general is about

:53:59. > :54:03.empowerment, this song, I wrote to empower women to live life as they

:54:04. > :54:09.once. There are so many pressures from society on women on how we

:54:10. > :54:14.should behave and they are all based on male privilege and then I made

:54:15. > :54:18.this video in Jamaica and alongside it because I felt like it was a

:54:19. > :54:26.topic that Spotlight needed to be on. The amazing women in these video

:54:27. > :54:31.our challenge to the men who live in Jamaica. They are ostracised from

:54:32. > :54:37.the community, attacked on a daily basis and it is something that not a

:54:38. > :54:44.lot of people speak about. They are not given a lot of support. Now we

:54:45. > :54:49.are trying to raise money to get them to save housing. Kevin, we're

:54:50. > :54:54.looking before at the long list of names that have gone before, tell us

:54:55. > :55:00.about the people picking this particular ward and how it is they

:55:01. > :55:11.have got such a good track record? This list has been going since 2003.

:55:12. > :55:15.The first winner was at the time, a little-known Rapper called 50 cents

:55:16. > :55:28.from New York. We saw what he went on to. Sam Smith, Adele, obviously.

:55:29. > :55:32.For the first time, the poll was open for people outside the UK. You

:55:33. > :55:38.mentioned DJs, music bloggers, critics, 170 of them across the

:55:39. > :55:43.world. Each one of them puts forward three names of an artist that they

:55:44. > :55:49.think is likely to break through the following year. Then, obviously

:55:50. > :55:56.those names are collated and we have a long list initially of 15 and then

:55:57. > :56:03.it is whittled down to five. But there is some fantastic names being

:56:04. > :56:07.picked out. You have done very well, having you. That whole process seems

:56:08. > :56:16.quite daunting and you got through all of that. What success looks

:56:17. > :56:23.like, you don't have a record label, do you want to be signed? Or is it a

:56:24. > :56:27.deliberate decision? I have decided to stay signed for now. I don't know

:56:28. > :56:33.what the future will hold. I am still growing, growing as an artist

:56:34. > :56:39.and what path I want to take. I feel like I need to have my autonomy by

:56:40. > :56:43.now. Until I am prepared to be assisted by a label. That might

:56:44. > :56:48.never be the case, but for now I have decided to stay on my own. What

:56:49. > :56:54.are the chances of someone having masses of success without being

:56:55. > :56:58.signed? The great thing of the Internet, it has democratised music

:56:59. > :57:04.and young artists no longer feel the pressure they have to go and be

:57:05. > :57:09.signed by a major label. Perhaps to get the extra push, promotion early

:57:10. > :57:14.there is the need for having the large body behind you with the great

:57:15. > :57:19.wealth of money that comes with that. But the great thing is, the

:57:20. > :57:24.young artists now can create music and upload it to numerous websites

:57:25. > :57:30.and get the music out there. When it comes to touring the music, it is a

:57:31. > :57:35.very expensive thing to do. That is when a major label can help out with

:57:36. > :57:42.that kind of thing. But artists have seen great success, sculptor who won

:57:43. > :57:45.the Mercury music prize last year. An independent artist who does

:57:46. > :57:49.everything on his own and is touring up and down the country. He is an

:57:50. > :57:56.example for young artists, you can go out and do this on your own. How

:57:57. > :58:04.much of it has been hard work the? Most of it. I won't lie, it is a

:58:05. > :58:11.difficult road to those who are unsiged. Like Kevin mentioned, there

:58:12. > :58:15.isn't a huge budget behind you to support you, but the Internet is an

:58:16. > :58:23.amazing tool. It is what has been the driving force so far and other

:58:24. > :58:29.artists and I believe the Internet will continue to push me.

:58:30. > :58:31.Congratulations. Thank you. For more information on that, you can go to

:58:32. > :58:34.the BBC News website. With previous winners

:58:35. > :58:39.including Adele and Sam Smith, see who we're tipping

:58:40. > :58:43.to be this year's hottest acts.