27/01/2017

:00:11. > :00:12.Hello, it's Friday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling.

:00:13. > :00:15.The vicar's daughter and the billionaire -

:00:16. > :00:17.Prime Minister Theresa May is in Washington to meet

:00:18. > :00:19.President Trump for talks on trade, foreign affairs and strengthening

:00:20. > :00:25.The Prime Minister is the first foreign leader to meet

:00:26. > :00:28.Mr Trump and his team, who are just one week

:00:29. > :00:38.Speaking last night, the president again said he was determined to

:00:39. > :00:43.build a wall between Mexico and the US and suggested taxing the goods to

:00:44. > :00:48.pay for it. People want protection. On the wall protects. All you have

:00:49. > :00:53.to do is ask Israel. They by having a total disaster coming across, and

:00:54. > :00:56.they had a wall. It is 99.9% stoppage.

:00:57. > :00:58.And, with the NHS in crisis, doctors are increasingly

:00:59. > :01:03.We hear from a group of GPs who had to sell off equipment to help cover

:01:04. > :01:13.We will speak to a doctor who are selling the recruitment to avoid

:01:14. > :01:14.getting into debt. -- selling the Mac equipment.

:01:15. > :01:17.A quarter of those living in the UK who survived genocides,

:01:18. > :01:18.including the Holocaust, have experienced discrimination

:01:19. > :01:20.or abuse linked to their religion or ethnicity.

:01:21. > :01:23.On Holocaust Memorial Day, we'll be talking to an Auschwitz

:01:24. > :01:26.We talk to an Auschwitz survivor and a student who says he has suffered

:01:27. > :01:32.racial abuse since he was a child. Lots coming up today on the show,

:01:33. > :01:37.and as ever, we really One of the stories we are talking

:01:38. > :01:41.about is whether six-year-old girls think they are less talented

:01:42. > :01:44.than six-year-old boys. What do you think?

:01:45. > :01:49.Do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning -

:01:50. > :01:53.use the hashtag #VictoriaLive. If you text, you will be charged

:01:54. > :01:57.at the standard network rate. Theresa May will become the first

:01:58. > :02:01.world leader to meet Donald Trump The Prime Minister told senior

:02:02. > :02:06.Republicans last night of the importance of the special

:02:07. > :02:10.relationship between the two countries, but says they cannot

:02:11. > :02:12.return to "failed" military Mrs May will be hoping

:02:13. > :02:17.to lay the groundwork She's also been urged by Labour

:02:18. > :02:21.and Conservative MPs to speak out against the use of torture,

:02:22. > :02:24.after Mr Trump said he supported Here's our Washington

:02:25. > :02:32.Correspondent, David Willis. She arrived on a blustery winter's

:02:33. > :02:36.evening in a city reeling from the effects of the new occupant

:02:37. > :02:39.of the White House. Theresa May will meet

:02:40. > :02:45.with President Trump less than a week after he came to office

:02:46. > :02:49.- a week as unpredictable as any And as the Prime Minister's

:02:50. > :02:53.motorcade wound its way through the streets of the capital,

:02:54. > :02:57.she could probably be forgiven for thinking,

:02:58. > :02:59.will the new relationship be more In Philadelphia, the city

:03:00. > :03:05.of the founding fathers, Mrs May earned a standing ovation

:03:06. > :03:09.for a speech that dwelt on the shared history of the two

:03:10. > :03:11.nations, a relationship which had All part of a charm offensive

:03:12. > :03:18.which she hopes will pave the way So I am delighted that the new

:03:19. > :03:25.administration has made a trade agreement between our countries one

:03:26. > :03:28.of its earliest priorities. A new trade deal between

:03:29. > :03:31.Britain and America. It must serve work for both

:03:32. > :03:33.sides and serve both Later, she'll become

:03:34. > :03:37.the first foreign leader to meet with Donald Trump

:03:38. > :03:42.at the White House, the streetwise New Yorker who,

:03:43. > :03:48.when it comes to trade deals, has vowed he will always

:03:49. > :03:51.put America first. He and Theresa May do

:03:52. > :03:53.have things in common, and it remains to be seen

:03:54. > :03:55.whether they can find common ground just as the UK is preparing

:03:56. > :03:58.to negotiate its departure Let's talk to Carole Walker,

:03:59. > :04:16.who's in Westminster. Carol, he is reportedly calling her,

:04:17. > :04:21.my Maggie. We have had a speech now from her already in the United

:04:22. > :04:26.States, where she has been laying out how she sees the relationship.

:04:27. > :04:29.How has that gone down? Well, certainly that speech from the Prime

:04:30. > :04:33.Minister went down very well with the audience of senior Republicans,

:04:34. > :04:39.but she was addressing. She spoke in very warm and glowing terms about

:04:40. > :04:42.the importance of the special relationship and about the shared

:04:43. > :04:47.values, although there certainly will be some concerns, not just

:04:48. > :04:50.amongst opposition parties, but some Conservative MPs, about this

:04:51. > :04:54.emphasis on shared values with Donald Trump, who, after all, has

:04:55. > :04:58.said that he thinks the water for terror suspects might be a good

:04:59. > :05:04.idea, and is building that very controversial war with Mexico. He

:05:05. > :05:08.says he wants to do so. -- wall with Mexico. He is banning immigrants

:05:09. > :05:12.from certain Muslim countries. When it comes to the issue with torture,

:05:13. > :05:15.there are quite serious implications in terms of the intelligence sharing

:05:16. > :05:20.which goes on at the moment between the US and the UK, when Britain has

:05:21. > :05:24.very strong rules about not dealing with any intelligence that comes

:05:25. > :05:28.from sources when it was extracted by the use of torture. So when I

:05:29. > :05:33.spoke to the Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon a little earlier, I

:05:34. > :05:35.asked him whether the Prime Minister would be raising those concerns

:05:36. > :05:40.directly when she meets President Trump.

:05:41. > :05:45.Schumacher very clear to him the British position on torture and that

:05:46. > :05:50.will not change. -- she will make very clear to him. We oppose

:05:51. > :05:54.torture, and that policy will not change whatever the American policy

:05:55. > :05:59.happens to be. She will make that clear. Will she urged him not to go

:06:00. > :06:02.down that route because it will have severe implications for future

:06:03. > :06:06.intelligence sharing. We worked together on the basis of shared

:06:07. > :06:10.intelligence. You're right, if the American position on torture was to

:06:11. > :06:16.change, there would be implications. She will make that clear to the

:06:17. > :06:19.American Administration. Sir Michael Fallon, that's just one of the

:06:20. > :06:24.issues on the agenda. Theresa May talked last night about a change to

:06:25. > :06:29.foreign policy. No more of what she called the failed interventions of

:06:30. > :06:32.the past. She appeared to be referring to Iraq, but perhaps

:06:33. > :06:36.Afghanistan as well. That might chime with the views of the new

:06:37. > :06:40.American president. Above all, I think Theresa May wants to take the

:06:41. > :06:44.opportunity to get to know the new president. They are very different

:06:45. > :06:47.characters, but she talked on the plane on the way over last night

:06:48. > :06:53.about sometimes opposites can attract. She wants to establish a

:06:54. > :06:57.rapport and a basis for a new economic relationship that can lead

:06:58. > :07:01.to a trade deal in the future, something President Trump has spoken

:07:02. > :07:05.about very warmly indeed. She will want to try to establish good,

:07:06. > :07:11.personal relations with President Trump. But she will be very aware of

:07:12. > :07:16.the concerns of many MPs, even some in her own party back in the UK. She

:07:17. > :07:21.will need to be seen to be challenging him on issues where they

:07:22. > :07:26.disagree, and not pandering so much that she prompts a backlash back at

:07:27. > :07:32.home. The importance of this visit is establishing good, personal

:07:33. > :07:37.relations. But inevitably trade will be talked about. How much are they

:07:38. > :07:42.going to be able to say because there are constraints about how much

:07:43. > :07:47.can be done in terms of any trade deals with other countries while the

:07:48. > :07:51.UK is still in the EU. That's right, the rules say we can't start formal

:07:52. > :07:54.trade negotiations while we are still members of the EU, and it will

:07:55. > :08:01.have to wait until the Brexit process has been completed. But I

:08:02. > :08:06.think the Prime Minister feels it's very important to capitalise on

:08:07. > :08:10.President Trump's signals, that the words he has spoken saying he wants

:08:11. > :08:14.to be putting Britain at the front of the queue when it comes to a

:08:15. > :08:17.trade deal. President Trump is somebody who doesn't like big,

:08:18. > :08:25.multilateral trade deals. He wants to work a bilateral trade basis. He

:08:26. > :08:29.has made it clear that it would be about America first, and that could

:08:30. > :08:33.be a difficulty. The question is whether Britain can drive a hard

:08:34. > :08:37.enough bargain to make sure a future trade deal doesn't just mean lots

:08:38. > :08:42.more American goods being imported into the UK. And there are other big

:08:43. > :08:46.differences when it comes to trade. We have very different standards

:08:47. > :08:52.when it comes to environmental regulations to some of the food and

:08:53. > :08:55.hygiene regulations. For example, some American products, cars and so

:08:56. > :09:00.on, aren't necessarily things that sell well in the UK. The Defence

:09:01. > :09:05.Secretary said this morning there could be a mutually beneficial trade

:09:06. > :09:10.deal. But we should be in no doubt that given President Trump's

:09:11. > :09:14.background, he will drive a hard bargain. Thank you very much. We

:09:15. > :09:18.will speak to a former economic adviser to President Trump as well

:09:19. > :09:23.as a former EU trade commissioner in a little while. We will also talk to

:09:24. > :09:26.the trade of the foreign affairs select committee. Let us know if you

:09:27. > :09:29.have any thoughts we could bring to that conversation.

:09:30. > :09:31.Annita is in the BBC Newsroom with a summary

:09:32. > :09:35.Hundreds of millions of pounds promised to schools in England have

:09:36. > :09:42.The money had been announced last year as part of a plan to turn

:09:43. > :09:45.But the Department for Education has revealed that when the compulsory

:09:46. > :09:47.academy plan was ditched the Treasury took back

:09:48. > :09:54.Our Education Correspondent Sean Coughlan reports.

:09:55. > :09:57.Head teachers in West Sussex and other parts of the country have

:09:58. > :09:59.been warning that schools are running out of cash.

:10:00. > :10:04.But only last year, the government announced an extra ?500 million,

:10:05. > :10:06.for schools as part of their plan to turn every school

:10:07. > :10:11.School leaders have been asking what ever happened to that money?

:10:12. > :10:15.But it has now emerged that when the academy plan was abandoned,

:10:16. > :10:19.most of the money, ?384 million, was in fact taken

:10:20. > :10:25.The Education Department said this was the right thing to do.

:10:26. > :10:27.The schools are receiving record levels of funding,

:10:28. > :10:35.Head teachers are furious that so much money could appear

:10:36. > :10:38.and then disappear when schools are struggling to make ends meet.

:10:39. > :10:41.A teenager has been charged with murder after a 15-year-old boy

:10:42. > :10:44.was stabbed near his school in north-west London.

:10:45. > :10:48.Quamari Serunkuma-Barnes was attacked in Doyle Gardens

:10:49. > :10:52.on Monday, just as other children made their way home from school.

:10:53. > :10:55.The suspect, who is also 15 and cannot be named for legal

:10:56. > :10:58.reasons, will appear before Willesden Youth Court later today.

:10:59. > :11:02.Jeremy Corbyn faces more dissent in the Labour Party today,

:11:03. > :11:06.as the party whip, Jeff Smith, says he'll defy the leader and vote

:11:07. > :11:08.against the Government Bill that will trigger Article 50.

:11:09. > :11:10.The MP said he wasn't convinced the Government had

:11:11. > :11:16.The Shadow Transport Minister, Daniel Zeichner, has also said he'll

:11:17. > :11:18.oppose the legislation, while Tulip Siddiq has

:11:19. > :11:22.resigned from the front bench over the issue.

:11:23. > :11:25.Plans to restrict some hip and knee operations in Worcestershire have

:11:26. > :11:29.been described as "alarming" by the Royal College of Surgeons.

:11:30. > :11:33.Three clinical commissioning groups in the county want to restrict

:11:34. > :11:41.They hope the move can save around ?2 million.

:11:42. > :11:44.But they insist they will continue to carry out more operations

:11:45. > :11:46.than many other parts of the country.

:11:47. > :11:48.Three GPs have told this programme they're having

:11:49. > :11:51.to sell their sell their equipment to avoid going into personal debt

:11:52. > :11:54.The Studley Health Centre in Warwickshire shut permanently

:11:55. > :11:57.because the partners that ran it claim they were no longer

:11:58. > :12:01.The doctors are trying to raise around ?40,000 to cover

:12:02. > :12:05.The Department of Health says it has invested an extra

:12:06. > :12:10.And we'll be speaking to one of the GPs from that surgery,

:12:11. > :12:15.and a former patient, just after 9:30am this morning.

:12:16. > :12:17.The taxman's failure to get tough with the super-rich could undermine

:12:18. > :12:19.confidence in the whole system, according to MPs.

:12:20. > :12:23.The Public Accounts Committee says the amount raised each year

:12:24. > :12:29.from wealthy individuals has fallen by ?1 billion,

:12:30. > :12:31.and there needs to be a tougher approach.

:12:32. > :12:33.HM Revenue and Customs has rejected any suggestion of special

:12:34. > :12:41.A study in the United States suggests girls start to see

:12:42. > :12:43.themselves as less talented than boys do when they

:12:44. > :12:46.The researchers described the results as disheartening,

:12:47. > :12:49.and said such views were likely to shape girls' decisions about

:12:50. > :12:59.That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9:30am.

:13:00. > :13:02.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:13:03. > :13:08.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:13:09. > :13:14.If you have any thoughts on Theresa May's visit to the United States, we

:13:15. > :13:17.would love to hear them, and what about the latest report that

:13:18. > :13:22.indicates six-year-old girls do not think they are as competent as

:13:23. > :13:24.six-year-old boys. Where do they get that message from? Let us know your

:13:25. > :13:28.thoughts if you have young children. And Will, they're rolling back the

:13:29. > :13:41.years at the Australian Open tennis. It's a bit like an over 30s holiday

:13:42. > :13:44.camp in Melbourne this year. 30-year-old Rafa Nadal hoping to

:13:45. > :13:48.meet 35-year-old Roger Federer in the final of the Australian open but

:13:49. > :13:53.he needs to get past a Grigor Dimitrov. That semifinal is

:13:54. > :14:00.underway. It's 4-1 to Nadal, a good start. He hasn't reached a final

:14:01. > :14:04.since the 20 14th French Open, his 14th Grand Slam. The Spaniard has

:14:05. > :14:07.been troubled by injury in the recent years. If he beats Dimitrov

:14:08. > :14:17.today then all four singles finalists will be aged over 30.

:14:18. > :14:25.35-year-old Serena Williams meet 36-year-old sister Venus Williams.

:14:26. > :14:31.Serena hoping to earn a record 23rd grand slam final. It's their first

:14:32. > :14:37.final together in a Grand Slam since Wimbledon 2009. Serena won that won

:14:38. > :14:48.in straight sets. Dimitrov has never reached a Grand Slam final. He's

:14:49. > :14:56.Roger Federer going for Grand Slam number 18 after beating fellow Swiss

:14:57. > :15:04.Stan Wawrinka yesterday. And Gordon Reid has achieved the career grand

:15:05. > :15:05.slam. The wheelchair doubles at the Australian open. And he's only 25,

:15:06. > :15:17.and got the whole set. I love the way you talk about over

:15:18. > :15:21.30 is being old, I am sure it is in sporting terms let's talk about

:15:22. > :15:26.another guy way off his 30s, Anthony Joshua will be facing bad amir

:15:27. > :15:32.Klitschko with a huge crowd expected to turn out. -- Wladimir Klitschko.

:15:33. > :15:40.Yes, this is boxing history, 90,000 people can attend that fight, for

:15:41. > :15:44.the IBF title and the vacant WBA super heavyweight title as well,

:15:45. > :15:52.that is on the 29th of April at Wembley, and it will match the

:15:53. > :15:57.British record set at White City back in 1939. Crowds are usually cap

:15:58. > :16:00.that 80,000, because the transport networks cannot cope with it, but

:16:01. > :16:05.London mayor Sadiq Khan has come to an agreement with Network Rail and

:16:06. > :16:09.Transport for London to get more services in place. Eddie Hearn said

:16:10. > :16:13.that Sadiq Khan urged me to bring the biggest fights to the city, and

:16:14. > :16:17.he is delighted to have the biggest fight in British boxing history at

:16:18. > :16:21.Wembley. He also promoted the 2014 rematch between Carl Froch and

:16:22. > :16:26.George Groves which said the current post-war record of 80,000, bringing

:16:27. > :16:31.in more than ?20 million. When you meet someday like Anthony Joshua, if

:16:32. > :16:36.you go to its fight, you realise how lucky is by boxing fans, sports fans

:16:37. > :16:41.in general. He acknowledges the whole crowd, and that 27, to bring

:16:42. > :16:44.in 90,000 with a huge career head of him, for a heavyweight, astonishing

:16:45. > :16:46.stuff. Great, thank you very much, see you

:16:47. > :16:48.later. A new dawn is breaking -

:16:49. > :16:50.Prime Minister Theresa May's verdict on the change in the White House

:16:51. > :16:53.as Donald Trump ends his first week Today Mrs May will meet him -

:16:54. > :16:58.the first foreign leader to do so. the other a billionaire star

:16:59. > :17:06.of reality TV. There are frequent and regular

:17:07. > :17:08.meetings between British Prime Ministers

:17:09. > :17:11.and American presidents, but few will be as significant

:17:12. > :17:22.as the visit to Washington today. The Prime Minister will be hoping to

:17:23. > :17:23.prepare the ground for a trade deal after Brexit.

:17:24. > :17:25.Speaking last night to a group of Republican politicians

:17:26. > :17:28.in Philadelphia, Mrs May was very clear about her plans

:17:29. > :17:37.A new trade deal between Britain and America must work for both sides and

:17:38. > :17:41.serve both of our national interests. It must help to grow our

:17:42. > :17:45.respective economies and to prepare the high skilled, high paid jobs of

:17:46. > :17:51.the future for working people across America and across the UK. And it

:17:52. > :17:57.must work for those who have too often felt left behind by the forces

:17:58. > :18:02.of globalisation. Theresa May is the first foreign head of government to

:18:03. > :18:06.speak to Republican Congressmen. It is my honour and privilege to stand

:18:07. > :18:12.before you today in this great city of Philadelphia, to proclaim them

:18:13. > :18:20.again, to join hands, as we pick up that mantle of leadership once more,

:18:21. > :18:24.to renew our special relationship, and to recommit ourselves to the

:18:25. > :18:29.responsibility of leadership in the modern world. And it is my honour

:18:30. > :18:36.and privilege to do so at this time, as dawn breaks on a new era of

:18:37. > :18:41.American renewal. I speak to you not just as Prime Minister of the United

:18:42. > :18:44.Kingdom, but as a fellow conservative who believes in the

:18:45. > :18:51.same principles that and up in the agenda of your party, the value of

:18:52. > :18:57.liberty, the dignity of work, the principles of nationhood, family,

:18:58. > :19:06.economic prudence, patriotism and putting power in the hands of the

:19:07. > :19:11.people. Well, she was keen to stress the special relationship between the

:19:12. > :19:16.two countries. We have the opportunity, indeed the

:19:17. > :19:21.responsibility, to renew the special relationship for this new age. We

:19:22. > :19:29.have the opportunity to lead together again. Because the world is

:19:30. > :19:35.passing through a period of change. And in response to that change, we

:19:36. > :19:41.can either be passive bystanders, or we can take the opportunity once

:19:42. > :19:45.more to lead and to lead together. On foreign policy, she said the two

:19:46. > :19:49.countries must always stand up for their respective friends and allies.

:19:50. > :19:53.The days of Britain and America are intervening in sovereign countries

:19:54. > :20:00.in an attempt to remake the world in our own image are over, but nor can

:20:01. > :20:04.we afford to stand idly by when the threat is real and when it is in our

:20:05. > :20:10.own interests to intervene. We must be strong, smart and hard-headed,

:20:11. > :20:15.and we must demonstrate the resolve necessary to stand up for our

:20:16. > :20:18.interests. And whether it is the security of Israel in the Middle

:20:19. > :20:23.East, or the Baltic states in Eastern Europe, we must always stand

:20:24. > :20:26.up for our friends and allies in democratic countries that find

:20:27. > :20:36.themselves in tough neighbourhoods too.

:20:37. > :20:45.APPLAUSE Well, the speech went down well, as

:20:46. > :20:49.you saw, the visit comes amid rows over who will pay for President

:20:50. > :20:51.Trump's controversial wall along the US border with Mexico.

:20:52. > :20:54.In an interview on Fox News, Donald Trump reiterated why

:20:55. > :21:02.And yet it is good for the heart of the nation in a certain way,

:21:03. > :21:04.because people want protection. And a wall protects.

:21:05. > :21:08.They were having a total disaster coming across,

:21:09. > :21:13.and they had a wall. It's 99.9% stoppage.

:21:14. > :21:16.A proper wall, not a wall that's this high, like they have now.

:21:17. > :21:21.I don't know why they even wasted their time...

:21:22. > :21:24.If you ever saw where they built a little ramp over the wall,

:21:25. > :21:26.I don't even know why they built a ramp.

:21:27. > :21:31.You're talking about a real wall, impenetrable?

:21:32. > :21:37.I'm talking about a wall that's got to be like serious.

:21:38. > :21:39.And even that of course you'll have people violate it.

:21:40. > :21:42.But we'll have people waiting for them when they do.

:21:43. > :21:49.who has been an economic advisor to Donald Trump,

:21:50. > :21:51.MP Crispin Blunt, chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee,

:21:52. > :21:58.who worked for the EU Commission for Trade for 30 years.

:21:59. > :22:06.Thank you all very much for joining us. Crispin Blunt first of all, how

:22:07. > :22:10.tricky is this visit for Theresa May to navigate? We have already heard

:22:11. > :22:14.his speech, watched you think about the difficulties for her and how

:22:15. > :22:19.well she has acquitted herself so far? Well, I think she gave a

:22:20. > :22:24.terrific speech to the Republican caucus in Philadelphia, you could

:22:25. > :22:26.see how warmly it was received. And within the Trump administration,

:22:27. > :22:30.obviously you got different signals being sent out, so all this

:22:31. > :22:33.controversy about what the president said about torture, but what people

:22:34. > :22:38.have not commented on is that he said he would take his lead from his

:22:39. > :22:44.Defence Secretary, General James Mattis, from the head of the CIA,

:22:45. > :22:47.claim they are against torture on ethical and practical grounds. The

:22:48. > :22:50.indicated he will be led by the experts see as appointed to his

:22:51. > :22:55.administration, which is quite a good sign. The relationship Theresa

:22:56. > :22:58.May has got to get with the president is to support British

:22:59. > :23:01.interests, and many of those interests are the same as some of

:23:02. > :23:07.the senior and powerful figures that Donald Trump as appointed to his

:23:08. > :23:09.administration. So in the internal administrations dynamic, the Prime

:23:10. > :23:14.Minister of the United Kingdom can be a useful voice into the White

:23:15. > :23:17.House, supporting the analysis of the Secretary of State, the Defence

:23:18. > :23:23.Secretary and the head of the CIA, who share Britain's outlook on the

:23:24. > :23:26.world. Bearing that in mind, the fact that you points to others who

:23:27. > :23:31.he has said he will listen to, he can send out a strong signal and

:23:32. > :23:36.say, this is what I think, but I will listen to them, he will play

:23:37. > :23:40.those two difference dynamics. How forceful should she be when she is

:23:41. > :23:46.talking about something like that? Does she need to be forceful? She is

:23:47. > :23:50.a very good listener, and she speaks calmly, and people listen to her,

:23:51. > :23:54.and she carries a quiet authority with, and I don't think she needs to

:23:55. > :24:00.change your style or her with Donald Trump. The president has already

:24:01. > :24:03.made clear that he sees her as his Maggie, as he puts it. We need to

:24:04. > :24:10.remember the religion share between Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher

:24:11. > :24:19.was not always sweetness and light. -- the relationship. On Grenada, she

:24:20. > :24:22.felt the need to intervene in the internal administrations debates to

:24:23. > :24:25.forcefully put the British view, the dorks with the Soviet Union at

:24:26. > :24:32.Reykjavik on nuclear disarmament were another example as to where she

:24:33. > :24:37.forcefully engaged to contradict the direction where she saw Ronald

:24:38. > :24:40.Reagan was taking Western policy. So that was a relationship where there

:24:41. > :24:45.was mutual respect, and that is what we have got to achieve. Some people

:24:46. > :24:49.might have blanched at some of your language, so apologies if you did,

:24:50. > :24:59.very sorry if any offence was called. That is my soldierly

:25:00. > :25:02.background! Betsy McCoy, you are a former adviser to Donald Trump on

:25:03. > :25:10.the economy, Crispin Blunt Saint Theresa May is a good listener, how

:25:11. > :25:15.would you characterise him? -- saying. What I would stress is that

:25:16. > :25:20.she was so warmly received yesterday by the Republican Party, and the

:25:21. > :25:26.Trump administration appears to have such deep respect for the history of

:25:27. > :25:30.this relationship with Great Britain, with the values of the

:25:31. > :25:35.nation, the work ethic of the people, and as you know, Donald

:25:36. > :25:40.Trump personally has strong ties to your country, his mother was

:25:41. > :25:48.Scottish, and so she is being welcomed with open arms to a party

:25:49. > :25:54.and a leader who wants to do a trade deal, and who wants to have a strong

:25:55. > :26:00.relationship of mutual respect and affection. And when she evoked the

:26:01. > :26:07.very special relationship between Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher

:26:08. > :26:12.yesterday, you could see that she was applauded so warmly, so

:26:13. > :26:17.enthusiastically by the President's party that I think this is going to

:26:18. > :26:22.be the beginning of a very strong relationship. Obviously, we hear all

:26:23. > :26:26.of those welcoming words, the fact that he feels this great affinity to

:26:27. > :26:31.the United Kingdom. When it comes down to brass tacks, though, he is a

:26:32. > :26:37.hard-nosed businessman, and the message is that he is sending out

:26:38. > :26:42.about America first, what sort of room for manoeuvre does that mean

:26:43. > :26:47.when it comes to a trade deal in our interests? Well, plenty, because as

:26:48. > :26:52.you say, your Prime Minister says exactly the same thing. The reason

:26:53. > :26:56.these two, I predict, will get along just fine, it is really going to be

:26:57. > :26:59.a love fest, is that both of them are committed to national

:27:00. > :27:05.sovereignty, to putting their national interest first. Unlike

:27:06. > :27:10.President Barack Obama, who was so critical of Brexit, Donald Trump

:27:11. > :27:14.applauded Brexit from the beginning. President Obama told the British

:27:15. > :27:18.they would have to go to, quote, the end of the queue if they voted for

:27:19. > :27:21.Brexit, whereas Donald Trump is welcoming your Prime Minister with

:27:22. > :27:25.open arms to negotiate a trade deal. So there is the difference, two

:27:26. > :27:31.countries can have strong commitments to their own people and

:27:32. > :27:34.still see many mutual interests. Let's bring in Roderick Abbott, you

:27:35. > :27:42.worked for the EU commission on trade for 30 years, obviously very

:27:43. > :27:47.appealing when the petition has gone from a president who said the UK

:27:48. > :27:50.would be at the back of the queue to a president saying the UK is right

:27:51. > :27:56.at the front of the queue, what you see has the potential for a trade

:27:57. > :28:04.deal? Yes, well, good morning. I think the first thing to say is

:28:05. > :28:09.that, between a special relationship type of getting together and a trade

:28:10. > :28:15.agreement, they are two very different sorts of things, and if

:28:16. > :28:18.you are fine on one, because you have got all the history, you are

:28:19. > :28:25.not necessarily fine on the trade agreement. It is also true that both

:28:26. > :28:31.sides would be looking for their own national interest, that is clear.

:28:32. > :28:35.How do I see this? I don't think there's going to be anything done

:28:36. > :28:41.very, very quickly in terms of concluding anything. I think they

:28:42. > :28:46.are in a preliminary stage where they are meeting each other, and

:28:47. > :28:49.they will be setting out a certain number of general principles and

:28:50. > :28:58.things, and that will lead onto informal discussions over the next

:28:59. > :29:02.months. Crispin Blunt, how do you see the timing? Obviously, there are

:29:03. > :29:06.rules that mean there cannot be any formal negotiations before the UK

:29:07. > :29:08.leaves the EU, but all the messages coming out of the United States are

:29:09. > :29:16.that there is no reason why they could not effectively sew something

:29:17. > :29:21.up quickly and quietly that could come into force then. You could have

:29:22. > :29:26.the discussions, and trade experts say you could have discussions but

:29:27. > :29:29.not formal negotiations, exactly as you said, but we won't know exactly

:29:30. > :29:35.the shape of the deal that the United Kingdom gets as we leave the

:29:36. > :29:43.European Union, and what freedom that then gives us to negotiate our

:29:44. > :29:46.own trade deals in terms until we have signed a deal and left the

:29:47. > :29:51.European Union. So these discussions will have to take place in principle

:29:52. > :29:55.between the parties, but what is different about these is the

:29:56. > :29:59.politics of this deal - you saw the warmth of the reaction that Theresa

:30:00. > :30:04.May got from the Republican members of Congress, and of course their

:30:05. > :30:07.trade ago shaders in a United States report to Congress, and usually they

:30:08. > :30:12.are really tough because they are looking after individual businesses.

:30:13. > :30:16.-- trade negotiators. This is an occasion where political pressure

:30:17. > :30:19.and the need for both countries to be able to do 80, there is a

:30:20. > :30:25.slightly different dynamic compared to other deals. -- to do a deal.

:30:26. > :30:29.They will be saying to their negotiators, get the deal done. The

:30:30. > :30:32.details may be less important than securing a deal, securing the

:30:33. > :30:36.argument for free trade in the United States, which is very

:30:37. > :30:40.important, as well as the UK showing that the world wants to do business

:30:41. > :30:45.with us as we leave the European Union. How will it be seen within

:30:46. > :30:49.the EU? Donald Trump's approach would look like classic divide and

:30:50. > :30:52.rule, he prefers to deal with individual countries in bilateral

:30:53. > :30:57.negotiations, rather than dealing with trade blocs. As other EU

:30:58. > :30:59.countries going to crucial election is this year, how does that dynamic

:31:00. > :31:12.play out? My first comment was that the

:31:13. > :31:16.politics which apply to the special relationship and the contacts with

:31:17. > :31:21.the Republican party and so on, don't necessarily spill over into

:31:22. > :31:37.trading because trade people in that community are very Mac and to list

:31:38. > :31:41.-- are very mercantilist. I imagine what Theresa May will look for is

:31:42. > :31:46.what she said, a bold and ambitious free trade agreement. And you can

:31:47. > :31:52.start to sketch out what that would mean. You might use as a model the

:31:53. > :31:57.TTIP, which is probably now in GDP freezer. It could be a good model,

:31:58. > :32:05.but I don't think you're going to get very far along the road until

:32:06. > :32:08.you see that the UK in relation to the United States is a much smaller

:32:09. > :32:15.target than the EU in relation to the United States. The dynamics in

:32:16. > :32:22.the bilateral relationship would be different to the dynamics with the

:32:23. > :32:26.EU. It means the European market I'm afraid is less attractive because

:32:27. > :32:32.it's a smaller population and you therefore have a smaller number of

:32:33. > :32:36.consumers and that kind of thing. Is it fair to say that Donald Trump

:32:37. > :32:39.prefers to have deals with individual countries rather than

:32:40. > :32:46.trading blocks because it's easier, because you have more clout and

:32:47. > :32:50.therefore, is it an appealing dynamic for Donald Trump to be

:32:51. > :32:56.warmly welcoming the United Kingdom when there are other EU countries

:32:57. > :33:01.who might be thinking, we might be all right out of the EU as well? I

:33:02. > :33:09.think it's a lesson the entire United States has learned, that in

:33:10. > :33:12.multilateral trade negotiations, often the interests of the United

:33:13. > :33:17.States are lost on the table in favour of the interests of the

:33:18. > :33:23.entire group. You can see how that would typically happen. Whereas in

:33:24. > :33:27.bilateral trade agreements the United States can secure its

:33:28. > :33:30.interest at the bargaining table and nobody is a better bargain than

:33:31. > :33:36.Donald Trump, that's why the Americans elected him president, to

:33:37. > :33:42.get this nation a good deal. I believe the Americans could they

:33:43. > :33:45.strongly trade relationship and strong overall relationship with

:33:46. > :33:48.Great Britain is a big winner. You can see that yesterday when the

:33:49. > :33:52.Republican majority in Philadelphia, and they will be the ones affirming

:33:53. > :33:58.any trade agreement, gave her such a warm welcome. A quick final

:33:59. > :34:02.thoughts, Crispin Blunt, are we weaker in these negotiations by

:34:03. > :34:07.being on our own? Relative to the European Union in conducting these

:34:08. > :34:13.negotiations, yes, in absolute terms. But the politics of the deal

:34:14. > :34:16.are actually rather different than a classic United States- EU deal,

:34:17. > :34:19.which has taken decades to negotiate and has run into what looks like

:34:20. > :34:26.terminal trouble. The bilateral politics and the need for both

:34:27. > :34:29.governments to secure, going into the electoral cycle for both

:34:30. > :34:32.governments in 2020, there's big political pressure on the

:34:33. > :34:39.negotiators to get a deal done and not behave in way trade negotiators

:34:40. > :34:42.usually do, which is very dry and mercantilist, as is described. The

:34:43. > :34:48.dynamic is different around this deal. So let's hope the politicians

:34:49. > :34:52.direct the trade negotiators to be sensible and get a deal done in the

:34:53. > :35:00.mutual interest of both countries to reinforce what's going to be a

:35:01. > :35:06.deeper special relationship. Thank you all very much. Still to come...

:35:07. > :35:08.And with the NHS in crisis, doctors are increasingly

:35:09. > :35:14.We hear from a group of GPs that had to shut down their surgery for good.

:35:15. > :35:16.They even had sell off equipment from their practice

:35:17. > :35:21.And more than a quarter of survivors of the Holocaust living in the UK

:35:22. > :35:24.still face anti-Semitic abuse or discrimination.

:35:25. > :35:31.We'll be talking to two British Jews about their experiences.

:35:32. > :35:40.Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom with a summary of today's news.

:35:41. > :35:46.Theresa May will today become the first world leader to meet Donald

:35:47. > :35:49.Trump since he became US president. She told Republicans yesterday of

:35:50. > :35:53.the importance of the special relationship between the two

:35:54. > :35:57.countries at but says they cannot return to failed military

:35:58. > :36:00.interventions. It's expected a post Brexit trade deal will be high on

:36:01. > :36:06.the agenda at today's meeting in the Oval Office. Hundreds of millions of

:36:07. > :36:10.funding promised to schools in England last year has been taken

:36:11. > :36:14.back by the Treasury. The money had been announced to fund a plan to

:36:15. > :36:17.turn all schools into academies. The Department for Education says that

:36:18. > :36:31.it was appropriate to return funds of the project did not go ahead.

:36:32. > :36:34.A teenager has been charged with murder after a 15-year-old boy

:36:35. > :36:36.was stabbed near his school in north-west London.

:36:37. > :36:37.Quamari Serunkuma-Barnes was attacked in Doyle Gardens

:36:38. > :36:40.on Monday, just as other children made their way home from school.

:36:41. > :36:43.The suspect, who is also 15 and cannot be named for legal

:36:44. > :36:45.reasons, will appear before Willesden Youth Court later today.

:36:46. > :36:48.Plans to restrict some hip and knee operations in Worcestershire have

:36:49. > :36:50.been described as "alarming" by the Royal College of Surgeons.

:36:51. > :36:53.Three clinical commissioning groups in the county want to restrict

:36:54. > :36:56.They hope the move can save around ?2 million.

:36:57. > :36:59.But they insist they will continue to carry out more operations

:37:00. > :37:01.than many other parts of the country.

:37:02. > :37:04.A study in the United States suggests girls start to see

:37:05. > :37:06.themselves as less talented than boys do when they

:37:07. > :37:09.The researchers described the results as disheartening,

:37:10. > :37:12.and said such views were likely to shape girls' decisions about

:37:13. > :37:21.Bring in some comments on the research on six-year-old girls. John

:37:22. > :37:27.has e-mailed to wonder about the research. He says we now know there

:37:28. > :37:31.are more young women at University in the US than young men. What

:37:32. > :37:36.happens between six and 16 that changes these apparently

:37:37. > :37:39.contradicting sets of data? Another tweet, I think girls are more judged

:37:40. > :37:45.because of social media, which is sad. An anonymous text asks, why are

:37:46. > :37:48.six-year-old girls being asked this question? Thank you for your

:37:49. > :37:54.comments. Keep them coming in. We will talk more about it later. Now

:37:55. > :37:59.time to catch up with the sport. Rafa Nadal has just taken the first

:38:00. > :38:02.set against Grigor Dimitrov in the Australian open semifinal. The

:38:03. > :38:05.Spaniard has reached a major final since winning his 14th Grand Slam at

:38:06. > :38:10.the 2014 French Open. He got the break he needed to take the opening

:38:11. > :38:13.set 6-3. It's 1-1 in the second and the winner will face Roger Federer

:38:14. > :38:23.for the title on Sunday. Manchester United are through to EFL court cup

:38:24. > :38:27.quarterfinal. They lost 2-1 against Hull, the bringing an end to their

:38:28. > :38:36.17 match unbeaten record. They face Southampton at Wembley next month.

:38:37. > :38:40.Nottingham Forest have asked Bilton Albion -- Burton Albion to speak to

:38:41. > :38:44.manager Nigel Clough. There will be a post-war record crowd of 90,000 at

:38:45. > :38:46.the anti-would Joshua Wladimir Klitschko fight at Wembley next

:38:47. > :38:55.month. Three GPs that gave up running

:38:56. > :38:58.a surgery in a small village say they're now having

:38:59. > :39:01.to sell their equipment in order The Studley Health Centre

:39:02. > :39:05.in Warwickshire shut permanently on the 31st of December

:39:06. > :39:08.because the partners that ran it claim they were no longer

:39:09. > :39:10.able to make a living. Now the doctors are trying to raise

:39:11. > :39:13.around ?40,000 to cover The surgery had around 2000

:39:14. > :39:19.patients, and has been Let's talk to Dr Lars Grimstvedt,

:39:20. > :39:26.who was one of the partners at the Studley Health Centre,

:39:27. > :39:29.Dr Krishna Kasaraneni from the British Medical

:39:30. > :39:31.Association's GP Committee, and from Birmingham is Hazel Wright,

:39:32. > :39:47.who was a patient at For more than 40 years. Why was it

:39:48. > :39:55.that the practice was not viable? The main issue was being a small

:39:56. > :40:02.size. We were a small village so we focused on looking after patients

:40:03. > :40:05.and offering continuity of care. They could see the same doctor every

:40:06. > :40:09.time they came in and we could offer good appointments. They didn't have

:40:10. > :40:14.to wait long to see us. Talk is through the figures. Where was it

:40:15. > :40:20.not adding up? How did outgoings compare with income? To do this we

:40:21. > :40:26.had to put in quite a lot of time as doctors. We only get a set amount of

:40:27. > :40:36.money per patient per year. Is that ?80? Tail it's about 80 or ?85. That

:40:37. > :40:39.doesn't take into account the amount of appointments we have available.

:40:40. > :40:46.We could see a patient wants or ten times. There have been contractual

:40:47. > :40:49.changes meaning the amount we get paid will be decreased every year

:40:50. > :40:53.for the next five years. There is also an increase in demand. We are

:40:54. > :41:00.having to see more patients, and also more nonclinical work we have

:41:01. > :41:04.to comply with. Just cutting through, on whether a practice is

:41:05. > :41:07.viable or not, if you have 2000 patients and you get ?80 per

:41:08. > :41:13.patient, but each of those patients might come once a year, it's fine,

:41:14. > :41:16.but if you have maybe an ageing group in that 2000, they are coming

:41:17. > :41:21.lots of times a year and it becomes an issue. Was that the issue for

:41:22. > :41:28.you? It is. Also the fact that costs were going up. Wages were going up,

:41:29. > :41:33.and the income was going down. And the pressures worded so that we were

:41:34. > :41:37.spending more and more hours seeing patients, longer days, 12 hour days,

:41:38. > :41:40.and it's exhausting because you don't get on top of your workload.

:41:41. > :41:48.There is always more work coming in. You thought a merger might work. You

:41:49. > :41:53.are not the only practice in an area of 6000 people. Why didn't a merger

:41:54. > :41:58.work? We explored a merger and worked really hard to see if it

:41:59. > :42:05.could be a possibility but we were told that it wouldn't be an option

:42:06. > :42:08.for us. I'm still not... I haven't been given an official reason why it

:42:09. > :42:18.wasn't and I'm still trying to find out. From the BMA's GP committee,

:42:19. > :42:22.the Department of Health says it's always been a case that some GP

:42:23. > :42:25.practices open, close and merge over time. What's important is patients

:42:26. > :42:33.get access to the services they need in all parts of the country. In the

:42:34. > :42:38.end, if a practice isn't viable, this is the only outcome, isn't it?

:42:39. > :42:43.That's a short-sighted comment from the Department of Health. The reason

:42:44. > :42:47.being, of the last few years we have noticed that GPs up and down the

:42:48. > :42:51.country, workload has increased significantly. Part of that is

:42:52. > :42:55.because the NHS has been a victim of its own success. People live longer

:42:56. > :42:58.with more health conditions, so they need more care in the community.

:42:59. > :43:02.Unfortunately funding hasn't kept pace with that. We have been warning

:43:03. > :43:08.the government that if funding doesn't keep pace to provide a level

:43:09. > :43:13.of service nations need, GPs will leave. Numbers came out two days ago

:43:14. > :43:18.showing the numbers of GPs from 2009 to last year has dropped by 3500,

:43:19. > :43:22.including GPs in my own practice you have moved to Canada. We have now

:43:23. > :43:26.reached the point where the workload has increased so much and funding

:43:27. > :43:31.isn't enough to keep up the pace. The funding model of ?80 per patient

:43:32. > :43:37.per year being a fixed amount. How would you see it working better?

:43:38. > :43:41.Presumably it would be linked to the number of times somebody is

:43:42. > :43:45.visiting, and then the bill could potentially go up exponentially for

:43:46. > :43:48.the health service. The reality is that the funding isn't enough. We

:43:49. > :43:52.are asking the government to increase funding to keep up the pace

:43:53. > :43:55.with demands on the health service and general practice so we can

:43:56. > :43:59.provide the level of service patients have been used to. What

:44:00. > :44:06.would you see as a model that could work? One of the things NHS England

:44:07. > :44:08.has declared is an extra ?2.8 billion by the end of this

:44:09. > :44:13.Parliament. The problem with something like this, yes, it's an

:44:14. > :44:16.investment and a welcome opportunity for the government to invest in

:44:17. > :44:22.general practice, but if a patient rings for an ambulance with chest

:44:23. > :44:26.pain,, that money will not make a difference, the ambulance is needed

:44:27. > :44:29.now. Unfortunately Parliament continues to interfere with the

:44:30. > :44:34.health service too much political cycles rather than need. We need

:44:35. > :44:39.investment urgently available to GP practices now to maintain and

:44:40. > :44:44.improve services for patients. A number of GPs have been leaving the

:44:45. > :44:50.service. Are you aware of how many practices are closing? The numbers

:44:51. > :44:53.are difficult to pin down, but we know eight out of ten GPs are

:44:54. > :44:57.reporting that the level of service they are providing for patients has

:44:58. > :45:02.deteriorated in the last year and we know that one in three GP practices

:45:03. > :45:05.in the country have permanent vacancies where they cannot fill GP

:45:06. > :45:10.places. Depending on the situation, some will be looking to close

:45:11. > :45:13.practices and patients who are used to access in their local GP for a

:45:14. > :45:19.period of time will no longer be able to see their GP.

:45:20. > :45:24.Hazel, I mentioned you had been a patient at that surgery for more

:45:25. > :45:30.than 40 years, how do you feel about and closing? Quite angry, and so do

:45:31. > :45:35.a lot of residents, and it is an anger that really escalated, because

:45:36. > :45:40.Studley seems to be losing all these services. We have lost the Fire

:45:41. > :45:43.Service, the library, which is now manned by volunteers. We have at the

:45:44. > :45:50.banks close, you name it, we have lost it. And really, this was really

:45:51. > :45:55.angry, it made people really angry that this was happening now, that

:45:56. > :45:58.the doctors were going, especially those doctors, because they are well

:45:59. > :46:04.regarded, highly respected, because they knew, or as a patient you knew

:46:05. > :46:09.that you could rely on them, not only as a doctor, but somebody who

:46:10. > :46:13.cared about you. So what are the options now? What will you do? Well,

:46:14. > :46:21.in fact, there is another surgery in the village. I have registered with

:46:22. > :46:29.them. In all fairness, they are doctors of good quality, and I feel

:46:30. > :46:34.that I am confident with them. You have got to wonder, are they going

:46:35. > :46:38.to be able to cope if 2000 patients from this practice turn up at their

:46:39. > :46:44.door? At a public meeting arranged by the CCG, they made a pledge that

:46:45. > :46:48.they would accommodate as many patients as wanted to go to their

:46:49. > :46:52.surgery, because when we had a letter telling us that we would have

:46:53. > :46:56.to find a new doctor, we were provided with a list of doctors that

:46:57. > :47:02.are in Redditch, so people were given a choice. But as far as I am

:47:03. > :47:11.aware, most people have chosen to go to the other surgery. You are out of

:47:12. > :47:15.that environment now, working as a salaried GP somewhere else. How has

:47:16. > :47:20.this left you feeling? Presumably you went into medicine because you

:47:21. > :47:25.wanted to care for people, you got into a position where you were

:47:26. > :47:29.effectively a businessman. That is typical, really, I see myself as a

:47:30. > :47:33.an accidental businessperson, I wanted to look after people, and I

:47:34. > :47:38.am not very good with the financial side of things. It has been quite a

:47:39. > :47:45.stressful six months, six months two-year, really, when we have been

:47:46. > :47:49.looking at how to resolve this. I have, in recent times, my take-home

:47:50. > :47:56.pay has been less than a junior doctor's from the surgery, and

:47:57. > :48:00.therefore... And I knew I wanted the kind of work I wanted to do was in a

:48:01. > :48:07.small village surgery, and that comes at a price, but at some stage

:48:08. > :48:10.you have got to weigh up whether you are able to put bread on the table

:48:11. > :48:16.and pay the mortgage versus going to work. And there is work at there

:48:17. > :48:22.that pays a reasonable amount more with less responsibility, and it

:48:23. > :48:25.wasn't just that I couldn't see a way forward to carry this through,

:48:26. > :48:30.and that is why we had to make this really hard decision to say, well,

:48:31. > :48:35.we cannot carry this on much longer. How do you feel about patients who

:48:36. > :48:39.have been coming to the practice all this time? It has been overwhelming,

:48:40. > :48:43.the positive response that we have had, people saying how well they

:48:44. > :48:47.thought of us as a surgery. We haven't had anything but positive

:48:48. > :48:51.comment and sadness from patients and people we have been working

:48:52. > :48:57.with, that they have lost this surgery. And it is... It is almost

:48:58. > :49:01.heartbreaking to see, really, the effect that these decisions have

:49:02. > :49:04.made. But at the end of the day, we have got to think about what is

:49:05. > :49:09.best, and if we could not carry on much longer, we would have got into

:49:10. > :49:14.some kind of difficulty, and I wouldn't want to risk clinical

:49:15. > :49:18.safety or making a mistake or cutting services down to a level

:49:19. > :49:23.where I thought it was unsafe, which are the kind of choices I would have

:49:24. > :49:26.had to make if I carried on. Thank you all very much, thank you.

:49:27. > :49:29.A spokesman for the Department of Health says it has invested

:49:30. > :49:30.an extra ?2.4 billion into primary care

:49:31. > :49:33.and there will be an extra 5000 GPs by 2020.

:49:34. > :49:34.A spokesperson for NHS South Warwickshire Clinical

:49:35. > :49:37.Commissioning Group says it felt merging the Studely Health Centre

:49:38. > :49:40.with another practice was not viable and it was making sure

:49:41. > :49:45.patients still had an excellent GP service.

:49:46. > :49:48.Coming up, the vicar's daughter Theresa May

:49:49. > :49:51.meets the billionaire President Trump

:49:52. > :49:55.We're looking at what the special relationship

:49:56. > :50:04.between the US and the UK means and whether it has a future.

:50:05. > :50:05.One in four survivors of genocide

:50:06. > :50:07.have experienced discrimination or abuse in the UK

:50:08. > :50:10.because of their religion or ethnicity.

:50:11. > :50:14.The disturbing figures are released to mark Holocaust Memorial Day,

:50:15. > :50:16.which is dedicated to all those who were killed during

:50:17. > :50:20.the Holocaust, and in genocides since World War II.

:50:21. > :50:22.The research shows that most survivors can't talk

:50:23. > :50:30.about their experiences for at least 20 years.

:50:31. > :50:33.That is a brick that was thrown into the home

:50:34. > :50:43.And this is a poster for the film Denial,

:50:44. > :50:44.about a Holocaust denier, which was defaced

:50:45. > :50:47.after it was displayed at a London Underground station.

:50:48. > :50:49.Last summer, figures revealed that the number of anti-Semitic

:50:50. > :50:54.incidents in Britain increased by 11% between January and June.

:50:55. > :50:56.We have two guests in the studio with us.

:50:57. > :50:58.Holocaust survivor Susan Pollack MBE,

:50:59. > :51:03.And Binyomin Gilbert, who's a student and

:51:04. > :51:05.the president of the Jewish Society at Goldsmiths University,

:51:06. > :51:19.Thank you both very much for coming in. Susan, what do you think when

:51:20. > :51:25.you see the break, the reaction that there was to that poster, and also

:51:26. > :51:31.the statistics about anti-Semitic abuse? Well, it is very disturbing.

:51:32. > :51:37.It is frightening that after so many years, and many of us have devoted

:51:38. > :51:44.time and effort to remember, to try to inform people what that sort of

:51:45. > :51:54.hate propaganda, anti-Semitic various ways of talking, can lead

:51:55. > :52:00.to. And it is frightening, it is frightening. But we're hoping that,

:52:01. > :52:11.eventually, there's going to be some very strict laws. And not just

:52:12. > :52:19.talking but actually preventing that sort of thing. Have you experienced

:52:20. > :52:23.anything in your later years like anti-Semitic abuse? No, actually I

:52:24. > :52:29.haven't. Indirectly, yes, indirectly. Remember, talking about

:52:30. > :52:33.for instance the older Jewish woman down the road, forgetting that I

:52:34. > :52:38.have got a name, forgetting that I am part of the wider community. So

:52:39. > :52:46.that sort of discriminatory identification, I think, all these

:52:47. > :52:57.small streams of the others has got a certain danger attached to it. You

:52:58. > :53:06.were taken to Auschwitz at the age of 14. I was only 13 years old at

:53:07. > :53:10.the time. And some 435,000 of the Jewish people, and others, we must

:53:11. > :53:19.never forget the others, have been murdered. At the time. And it was

:53:20. > :53:28.the most horrific experience that I could think of, that could be

:53:29. > :53:36.orientated against innocent people. How could it happen? I think your

:53:37. > :53:40.mother disappeared almost immediately. Almost immediately,

:53:41. > :53:51.selection was taking place, and my mother was selected to be with older

:53:52. > :53:58.people and was gassed right on arrival. Ireland about this when I

:53:59. > :54:01.was in Auschwitz. -- I learned. I said that for many Holocaust

:54:02. > :54:08.survivors, it took 20 years to be able to talk about it. How did you

:54:09. > :54:14.sort of come through it? Well, the difficulty was, of course, how can

:54:15. > :54:21.life go on after? We were left on our own, the majority of us, we had

:54:22. > :54:29.no language, we were dehumanised, no skills and no education. The path to

:54:30. > :54:34.extermination had started long before Auschwitz, of course, so I

:54:35. > :54:40.lost my education very early. And I had to find some means of how to

:54:41. > :54:51.support myself. So that was one of the reasons why we couldn't speak

:54:52. > :55:00.about it. Also, the difficulty of finding an audience who were

:55:01. > :55:04.listening. At that time. How do you view discrimination after everything

:55:05. > :55:14.that you've experienced and been through? I am vigilant and cautious.

:55:15. > :55:19.I think that it needs constant education and very strong

:55:20. > :55:32.legislation. The two things that one needs in order to re-educate people

:55:33. > :55:38.and accept myself, the Jews, I am very involved in various other

:55:39. > :55:42.things as well. I mean, I became a Samaritan, just to rebuild my

:55:43. > :55:45.self-esteem and help others. The physical recovery wasn't all that

:55:46. > :55:50.difficult, though it took a couple of years. But the emotional, mental

:55:51. > :55:57.recovery took a lifetime, I'm still working on it. Of course. Binyomin,

:55:58. > :56:03.you are 22, obviously at the other end of the spectrum, but you have

:56:04. > :56:09.experienced anti-Semitic abuse, tell us about it. I have experienced a

:56:10. > :56:14.few physical incidents and a constant stream of small, everyday

:56:15. > :56:19.comments, online anti-Semitism and other forms. The worst experiences I

:56:20. > :56:24.have had involved physical assault. A few months ago in Coventry, I was

:56:25. > :56:30.assaulted by a... I think he was a neo-Nazi, it was difficult to tell,

:56:31. > :56:35.but he attacked me, hit me across the head. When I was younger... Were

:56:36. > :56:40.you literally just walking along? Walking along with a friend, up a

:56:41. > :56:46.side street in the middle of Coventry, and someone just came up

:56:47. > :56:51.to me, he saw that I was wearing a kippah, came up to me, said, you are

:56:52. > :57:01.Jewish, and told me to go back where I am from. What impact does that

:57:02. > :57:04.have on you? It is concerning. Thankfully, I am tough enough to

:57:05. > :57:09.take care of myself, but it does concern me that this is increasing,

:57:10. > :57:13.and it isn't something that I face of my own, it is something that my

:57:14. > :57:18.peers face, that we are seeing increased across Britain and Europe.

:57:19. > :57:23.And it makes me worried about the future. You say that you are tough

:57:24. > :57:29.enough to deal with it, has that been built over time? Yes. I think

:57:30. > :57:32.when I was nine years old and someone threw a bottle at me out of

:57:33. > :57:36.a car window when I was walking with my grandmother in the street,

:57:37. > :57:41.psychologically that god to me a lot more than recent incidents. Did you

:57:42. > :57:47.know when you were nine why that was done? I couldn't understand it. It

:57:48. > :57:53.took me years to understand, and it has been, over the last few years, I

:57:54. > :57:57.have come to terms with what anti-Semitism is, understood how it

:57:58. > :58:02.has developed since the war into a new form of anti-Semitism, new ways

:58:03. > :58:06.to attack people. And it has driven me to volunteer to fight against

:58:07. > :58:13.anti-Semitism. I started working for a campaign against anti-Semitism.

:58:14. > :58:17.And I feel like I am fighting back. Susan, I mean, how frustrating is it

:58:18. > :58:23.for you to hear that those sort of things are happening? Well, it is

:58:24. > :58:34.frightening. It is absolutely frightening. The Holocaust should

:58:35. > :58:40.always be a beacon of warning of what can take place, not just

:58:41. > :58:43.perhaps, yes, first of all against the Jews, but many others as well.

:58:44. > :58:52.We all need to stand up against that, and here strong voices. It is

:58:53. > :58:59.not good, because if we remain silent, if we made voiceless, who do

:59:00. > :59:04.we help? The perpetrators. That is one of the lessons we learned.

:59:05. > :59:11.Neither of you demonstrate any anger, do you feel anger?

:59:12. > :59:22.I feel disappointment. I do feel... Anger perhaps not in that sense,

:59:23. > :59:27.sort of angry. We never retaliated, for instance, after the Holocaust,

:59:28. > :59:34.we just went about and tried to rebuild our lives. But

:59:35. > :59:42.disappointment that we don't have any stronger kind of protection. You

:59:43. > :59:46.said that it has taken a lifetime to deal with the emotional scars of

:59:47. > :59:50.what you went through, you are still dealing with them. Absolutely,

:59:51. > :59:56.absolutely. We are still dealing with it. I mean, it is not something

:59:57. > :00:00.I shall ever forget, and I have come to accept it. But I have managed to

:00:01. > :00:06.build on it, and I have done quite a few things to do that. I have become

:00:07. > :00:13.a volunteer, as I mentioned, I became a Samaritan, which was

:00:14. > :00:18.helpful. Can I help you? And Ireland a lot about human conditions and

:00:19. > :00:24.various other things. I have been speaking to schools for almost 30

:00:25. > :00:31.years. -- and I learned. And yet such deep embedded eight, with some,

:00:32. > :00:45.I wouldn't say everyone, is still in existence. -- hate. Binyomin, how do

:00:46. > :00:49.you feel about the people who demonstrate its towards you? There

:00:50. > :00:59.is frustration, I wouldn't call it anger, but frustration for sure,

:01:00. > :01:03.that after all these examples, pogroms, it still has not been

:01:04. > :01:07.eradicated, and it makes me feel that it may be intrinsic and there

:01:08. > :01:13.may not be a way to completely remove it. But the only chance that

:01:14. > :01:17.we have is to educate, and that is one of the things that I do now in

:01:18. > :01:21.my life, I try and educate people about anti-Semitism. I have

:01:22. > :01:25.dedicated time to learning about anti-Semitism, and now I try to pass

:01:26. > :01:29.that information to on, going to other universities, going to speak

:01:30. > :01:33.to is Duden is and explain what it is that anti-Semitism is and why it

:01:34. > :01:39.is baseless and what it makes people feel like. -- speak to students.

:01:40. > :01:44.Thank you both very much for talking to us. We are a little bit late for

:01:45. > :01:50.the weather but we'll catch up with it right now.

:01:51. > :01:56.Still very cold outside. We have low pressure coming from the West with

:01:57. > :02:01.this weather fronts bringing rain. Not particularly heavy rain. And

:02:02. > :02:05.also some drizzle. We still have fog across parts of the East Midlands

:02:06. > :02:09.and Lincolnshire that will slowly lift, pretty dense through the

:02:10. > :02:13.morning. We have a 2-pronged attack, rain coming from the West and from

:02:14. > :02:19.the Channel Islands into southern areas and a lot of cloud building

:02:20. > :02:23.ahead of it across England and Wales and western fringes of Scotland and

:02:24. > :02:27.Northern Ireland. A cold day in prospect. Not as cold as yesterday.

:02:28. > :02:34.The rain tonight moves north and comes in from the West. The lot of

:02:35. > :02:39.it meets and travels east. Snow above 100 metres in Scotland and in

:02:40. > :02:43.the Pennines. Behind the cloud we have some icy conditions, bear that

:02:44. > :02:47.in mind first thing. The band of rain pushing over towards the east

:02:48. > :02:50.in the morning, cloud behind it, but it will brighten up with sunshine.

:02:51. > :02:52.We will have showers out towards the west and highs between five and

:02:53. > :02:56.nine. Hello, it's Friday, 27th January,

:02:57. > :02:59.it's 10am, I'm Joanna Gosling. The eyes of the world

:03:00. > :03:02.are on Theresa May and Donald Trump, who have their first face-to-face

:03:03. > :03:05.meeting since the billionaire Some tricky issues are

:03:06. > :03:21.on the agenda, but how The reason these two I predict will

:03:22. > :03:25.get along just fine, it's going to be a lovefest, is that both of them

:03:26. > :03:26.are committed to national sovereignty, putting their national

:03:27. > :03:29.interests first. Girls start to see themselves

:03:30. > :03:32.as less talented than boys Before then, both sexes think

:03:33. > :03:36.their own gender is "brilliant" - We're looking at gender stereotypes,

:03:37. > :03:40.and where children are picking up these influences from at such

:03:41. > :03:45.a young age. It's democracy in action tonight,

:03:46. > :03:51.as the UK decides which act will represent the UK at this year's

:03:52. > :03:54.Eurovision Song Contest. We'll be asking last year's entry,

:03:55. > :03:57.Joe and Jake, if they think the 2017 contender can hope

:03:58. > :04:07.to beat their 24th place. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:04:08. > :04:11.with a summary of today's news. Theresa May will today become

:04:12. > :04:13.the first world leader to meet Donald Trump since he became US

:04:14. > :04:16.President. She told senior Republicans last

:04:17. > :04:19.night of the importance of the special relationship

:04:20. > :04:22.between the two countries, but says they cannot return

:04:23. > :04:26.to failed military interventions. It's expected a post-Brexit trade

:04:27. > :04:29.deal will be high on the agenda at today's meeting in the Oval

:04:30. > :04:32.Office. The Conservative MP Crispin Blunt,

:04:33. > :04:34.who is chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee,

:04:35. > :04:44.says a good relationship And that Theresa May's reception

:04:45. > :04:47.from Republicans bodes well for a trade agreement.

:04:48. > :04:52.The reaction Theresa May got from Republican mems of Congress, and

:04:53. > :04:57.trade negotiators in the States report to Congress. They are

:04:58. > :05:00.normally really tough because the congressmen look after businesses in

:05:01. > :05:04.their individual district. This is a situation where political pressure

:05:05. > :05:07.and the need for both countries to do a deal, a slightly different

:05:08. > :05:11.dynamic in this trade deal than others. In both countries the

:05:12. > :05:14.politicians will say to the trade negotiators, get the deal done.

:05:15. > :05:16.Hundreds of millions of funding promised to schools in England last

:05:17. > :05:18.year has been taken back by the Treasury.

:05:19. > :05:21.The money had been announced to fund a plan to turn

:05:22. > :05:24.The Department for Education says that it was appropriate to return

:05:25. > :05:27.funds if a project did not go ahead.

:05:28. > :05:30.A teenager has been charged with murder after a 15-year-old boy

:05:31. > :05:32.was stabbed near his school in north-west London.

:05:33. > :05:36.Quamari Serunkuma-Barnes was attacked in Doyle Gardens

:05:37. > :05:39.on Monday just as other children made their way home from school.

:05:40. > :05:42.The suspect, who is also 15 and cannot be named for legal

:05:43. > :05:45.reasons, will appear before Willesden Youth Court later today.

:05:46. > :05:51.Jeremy Corbyn faces more dissent in the Labour Party

:05:52. > :05:53.today as the party whip, Jeff Smith, says he'll

:05:54. > :05:55.defy the leader and vote against the government Bill that

:05:56. > :05:59.The MP said he wasn't convinced the government had

:06:00. > :06:03.The Shadow Transport Minister, Daniel Zeichner, has also said he'll

:06:04. > :06:05.oppose the legislation, while Tulip Siddiq has

:06:06. > :06:08.resigned from the front bench over the issue.

:06:09. > :06:12.Plans to restrict some hip and knee operations in part of England have

:06:13. > :06:15.been described as alarming by the Royal College of Surgeons.

:06:16. > :06:18.Three clinical commissioning groups in Worcestershire hope the move

:06:19. > :06:20.would save around ?2 million, though they insist surgery

:06:21. > :06:28.would continue to be carried out elsewhere.

:06:29. > :06:31.A study in the United States suggests girls start to see

:06:32. > :06:34.themselves as less innately talented than boys do when they

:06:35. > :06:36.The researchers described the results as disheartening

:06:37. > :06:39.and said such views were likely to shape girls' decisions about

:06:40. > :06:47.That's a summary of the latest BBC News.

:06:48. > :06:52.Do get in touch with us throughout the morning -

:06:53. > :07:05.Why might it be that six-year-old girls don't think they are as good

:07:06. > :07:07.as boys according to new research? A couple of comments on the

:07:08. > :07:15.conversation we just had about the Holocaust. And anti-Semitism today.

:07:16. > :07:18.It's Holocaust Memorial Day. Stephen e-mailed to say he is horrified by

:07:19. > :07:22.continuing reports and he's interested to know which members of

:07:23. > :07:28.our communities are carrying out such offences. Kathleen has texted

:07:29. > :07:32.to say, watching your item on anti-Semitism with disgust. How can

:07:33. > :07:35.anybody treat another human this way?

:07:36. > :07:39.If you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate.

:07:40. > :07:43.We've got a match on our hands in the Australian Open semi-final.

:07:44. > :07:46.Rafa Nadal is looking to reach his first Grand Slam final

:07:47. > :07:51.Grigor Dimitrov stands in his way but it was Nadal who took the first

:07:52. > :08:02.Dimitrov has never reached a Grand Slam final,

:08:03. > :08:07.but he reacted well, breaking Nadal in the second.

:08:08. > :08:15.Buttons Al has broken him twice. -- but Nadal has broken him twice.

:08:16. > :08:18.Currently 5-4 to Dimitrov. Roger Federer will play the winner

:08:19. > :08:21.for the title on Sunday after tomorrow's all Williams

:08:22. > :08:22.women's final. And congratulations

:08:23. > :08:24.to Britain's Gordon Reid, who's completed a career grand slam

:08:25. > :08:27.- he and partner Joachim Gerard have won the wheelchair doubles title

:08:28. > :08:29.in Melbounre this morning. Jose Mourinho celebrated his 54th

:08:30. > :08:31.birthday by taking Manchester United They lost 2-1 at Hull in the second

:08:32. > :08:37.leg of their semi-final but went through 3-2 on aggregate -

:08:38. > :08:39.although Mourinho insisted Here's the goal that Mourinho

:08:40. > :08:45.is refusing to recognise. Four players tangled

:08:46. > :08:50.in the penalty area, and Harry Maguire went to ground,

:08:51. > :08:52.possibly after Marcos Rojo Tom Huddlestone

:08:53. > :09:01.scored from the spot. Paul Pogba then struck what turned

:09:02. > :09:04.out to be the decisive goal. Before Oumar Niasse ended United's

:09:05. > :09:22.17-match unbeaten run - We didn't lose. It was 1-1. 1-1. I

:09:23. > :09:26.only saw two goals. I saw the Pogba goal, and their goal, fantastic

:09:27. > :09:35.goal. Great action, great cross. And the guy at the far post coming. 1-1.

:09:36. > :09:37.Why don't you count the first goal bastion yellow I didn't see. Deadly

:09:38. > :09:45.serious. --? Oh I didn't see. Could there be another Clough

:09:46. > :09:48.in charge of Nottingham Forest? They've made an approach

:09:49. > :09:50.to Burton Albion, to speak with Nigel Clough

:09:51. > :09:52.about their vacant manager's job. His father Brian Clough was Forest's

:09:53. > :09:54.most famous manager, leading them to numerous victories,

:09:55. > :09:56.including two Nigel has already followed

:09:57. > :09:59.in his father's footsteps once, And Anthony Joshua's world

:10:00. > :10:02.heavyweight title bout against Wladimir Klitshcko will be

:10:03. > :10:04.fought in front of a Over 80,000 tickets have already

:10:05. > :10:08.been sold for the Wembley bout on April the 29th -

:10:09. > :10:11.and the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has granted permission for another

:10:12. > :10:13.10,000 to go on sale, after talking to rail

:10:14. > :10:27.companies to make sure fans We will have the headlines for you

:10:28. > :10:30.at 10:30am. Lots of you getting in touch on our conversation on

:10:31. > :10:38.anti-Semitism on world Holocaust Day. A tweak to say, disgusted there

:10:39. > :10:44.are still people in 2017 who abuse people of different races, religions

:10:45. > :10:50.and creeds. -- eight-week to say. -- at Tweet.

:10:51. > :10:52.Prime Minister Theresa May is in Washington today.

:10:53. > :10:54.She is the first foreign leader to be meeting

:10:55. > :10:59.The meeting comes as May has suggested that Britain

:11:00. > :11:01.could withdraw from some if its intelligence sharing

:11:02. > :11:05.with the United States if Trump presses ahead with his announced

:11:06. > :11:07.plans to reintroduce torture techniques like water-boarding

:11:08. > :11:14.during the interrogation of terror suspects.

:11:15. > :11:20.He has said it does work but he will bow to the wisdom of the CIA in

:11:21. > :11:23.anything on something like that. In an interview with ABC News

:11:24. > :11:26.yesterday, Trump said he believed that water-boarding works,

:11:27. > :11:28.but Downing Street says the UK's opposition to torture

:11:29. > :11:29.remains "unequivocal". That's not the only issue

:11:30. > :11:32.overshadowing the President's first The Mexican President has

:11:33. > :11:35.now cancelled his trip to the United States

:11:36. > :11:37.because of the row over the building of a border wall

:11:38. > :11:39.between the two countries. It's a meeting everyone would love

:11:40. > :11:42.to be a fly-on-the-wall for, but what exactly does the special

:11:43. > :11:45.relationship between the UK Let's talk now to Laura Schwartz,

:11:46. > :11:52.a political commentator who worked for the Clinton administration

:11:53. > :11:57.for eight years. Talking to us from Washington is

:11:58. > :12:00.Republican commentator Anneke Green, who was a speechwriter

:12:01. > :12:09.for George W Bush. Thank you both for joining us.

:12:10. > :12:15.Donald Trump is supposedly calling Theresa May, my Maggie. She says she

:12:16. > :12:21.won't be afraid to talk tough with him. How do you see the dynamic?

:12:22. > :12:25.She's already been fairly savvy in setting up a meeting with the

:12:26. > :12:28.Republican Congress. The Republicans have been on retreat in Philadelphia

:12:29. > :12:32.and she stopped by to talk to them ahead of her meeting with President

:12:33. > :12:36.Trump. She's been pretty savvy in communicating that she will work

:12:37. > :12:41.with congressional leaders as well as the president ahead of meeting

:12:42. > :12:46.him. Laura, how do you see things? I completely agree. I thought her

:12:47. > :12:50.speech yesterday was forceful. She mentioned a lot of the alliances and

:12:51. > :12:53.information from the Donald Trump campaign of which she's concerned

:12:54. > :13:01.about, and ways to make that the Iran to clear deal doesn't go away.

:13:02. > :13:04.Commitments to Nato. Some of the Allied agreements might be flawed

:13:05. > :13:09.but they can't be done away with that must be built upon. Everything

:13:10. > :13:13.from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. She

:13:14. > :13:19.brought up some heady issues. Issues that are the same issues that many

:13:20. > :13:24.world leaders are concerned about within a Donald J Trump

:13:25. > :13:27.administration. I think it's very savvy to go to the Republican

:13:28. > :13:30.retreat. It gave her a day ahead of her meeting with Donald Trump to

:13:31. > :13:35.make that statement and I think that's what will make today's

:13:36. > :13:38.meeting with Donald, the press conference following, and the

:13:39. > :13:41.working lunch following that, productive, even perhaps more so

:13:42. > :13:47.behind the scenes with President Trump than we will see in front of

:13:48. > :13:50.the scenes. We have been able to build up a pretty good picture

:13:51. > :13:56.quickly. He has hit the ground running in terms of actions, as well

:13:57. > :14:02.as just words. The key phrase from him, America first, we have heard

:14:03. > :14:06.him say torture works. He introduced a potential clamp-down on visitors

:14:07. > :14:11.from seven countries with Muslim majorities. Making steps to see the

:14:12. > :14:16.border wall with Mexico come into force. At this stage, how do you

:14:17. > :14:19.assess him in terms of the rhetoric on the campaign trail, which some

:14:20. > :14:24.thought might be tempered once he came into office, with what we are

:14:25. > :14:30.seeing. He has not found down the way many anticipated. Myself

:14:31. > :14:33.included. -- he has not toned down. We did not think you'd be picking

:14:34. > :14:40.fights with the president of Mexico ahead of a meeting, which led to the

:14:41. > :14:47.meeting being cancelled. I think the debate around torture is a big

:14:48. > :14:51.distraction. Like you mentioned, leading the programme, he said he

:14:52. > :14:55.thinks it works but will rely on the CIA. The CIA has not used that

:14:56. > :15:00.enhanced interrogation techniques since 2003. They have no plans to

:15:01. > :15:05.begin doing so again. Originally it was only used on three high-value

:15:06. > :15:09.terrorism suspects. I don't think there is an appetite for that at

:15:10. > :15:14.this point among the American people, or interest in the CIA on

:15:15. > :15:18.resuming that. Laura, what should we make of that? Ultimately, we mustn't

:15:19. > :15:23.forget that he's a deal maker and plays hardball. He is sending out

:15:24. > :15:27.very hard core messages, but if the caveat is always, I will listen to

:15:28. > :15:30.the people around me, and the people around him don't necessarily agree

:15:31. > :15:33.directly with what he says, he gets to play to the people who want to

:15:34. > :15:39.hear those messages but maybe it will not happen in practice.

:15:40. > :15:45.It is a very good plan for Donald Trump, great for carrying forward

:15:46. > :15:51.the messages of the campaign, yet in this new governing mode that he is

:15:52. > :16:00.in today. He has said, I will let the CAA decide, and mike Pompeo has

:16:01. > :16:04.said that torture is illegal. We heard yesterday from the Leader of

:16:05. > :16:09.the House and the Senate, both said that torture is illegal, and they

:16:10. > :16:16.don't plan to overturn that any time soon, they don't plan to change

:16:17. > :16:22.that, because it has not been reliable. So he is able to talk to

:16:23. > :16:26.his base while still being able to give himself, Joanna, really and

:16:27. > :16:32.have to say, hey, I brought it up, I did it, I chose these great leaders

:16:33. > :16:39.to put around me, and we are going to try it their way first. On the

:16:40. > :16:43.wall, a key part of the campaign, he is now talking about it actually

:16:44. > :16:50.happening and a 20% import duty to pay for it, what do you think about

:16:51. > :16:56.the messaging on that one? That is going to hit people at home, isn't

:16:57. > :17:01.it? Prices will just go up. That has been the criticism of those plans. I

:17:02. > :17:09.don't know what I planned to do to counteract that, but the point that

:17:10. > :17:12.was just made by Laura still stands, which is that something needs

:17:13. > :17:17.discussing, is that what they are going to go with? We don't know at

:17:18. > :17:21.this point. I do wonder if there is a kind of good friend, bad friend

:17:22. > :17:25.scenario being set up with Mexico being debated as a bad friend,

:17:26. > :17:29.cancelling their meeting, and Great Britain being depicted as the good

:17:30. > :17:33.friend, the first one visiting, and they are the nation that the Trump

:17:34. > :17:38.administration has said they want to fast-track a trade deal with, do

:17:39. > :17:43.everything they can to make it work, even if the terms are not all

:17:44. > :17:47.favourable to the United States. So there is wiggle room there as an

:17:48. > :17:51.example internationally. This is what happens when you support us,

:17:52. > :17:56.this is what happens when you don't support as. He has gone into the

:17:57. > :18:01.White House with record low approval ratings, I mean, from what we see

:18:02. > :18:04.and hear about him, things like the number of people that turned out to

:18:05. > :18:11.the inauguration really mattered to him. It is quite interesting, isn't

:18:12. > :18:17.it, I suppose, whether he cares about those low approval ratings and

:18:18. > :18:20.what that says? It is something that he cared about all throughout the

:18:21. > :18:24.campaign, Joanna, where oftentimes he would come out with a sheet of

:18:25. > :18:29.paper, and on that paper were the names of polls and where he stood

:18:30. > :18:35.among them with relation to the Republican rivals. I think that is

:18:36. > :18:39.how he is driven, and you can see his fight turn more feisty or more

:18:40. > :18:43.cavalier depending on what those numbers are. I think he sees that

:18:44. > :18:47.these are very important numbers, some of the lowest ever, and he

:18:48. > :18:54.needs to make massive inroads to counteract that. Having Theresa May

:18:55. > :19:00.there today is outstanding, because the United States of America, the

:19:01. > :19:05.same people who are being polled on his approval rating, they have a

:19:06. > :19:10.very high regard for the UK, so we see a working relationship both

:19:11. > :19:14.among trade and among advisement. Very interesting, before Barack

:19:15. > :19:18.Obama left office, he spoke to a few leaders around the country that had

:19:19. > :19:20.been confirmed by their administration officials, as well as

:19:21. > :19:25.British officials in this case, with Theresa May. He asked Theresa May to

:19:26. > :19:28.stay in close contact with Donald Trump, because he felt the

:19:29. > :19:35.centre-right cleaning was much better than Nigel Farage's

:19:36. > :19:43.influence. So I really believe that your Prime Minister is taking up

:19:44. > :19:47.that baton, I really look forward to seeing the press conference this

:19:48. > :19:53.evening. Yeah, we will all be looking forward to that one! Thank

:19:54. > :19:55.you very much indeed for your time. Let's get the thoughts of a few

:19:56. > :19:56.other people. Should the UK re-evaluate

:19:57. > :19:58.its special relationship, We can talk now to four British

:19:59. > :20:03.expats living in the United States. John Turner is a Brit

:20:04. > :20:05.living in Vermont. He thinks our relationship

:20:06. > :20:07.means more to Britain Talking to us from Massachusetts

:20:08. > :20:11.is Samantha McGarry. Says she's proud the first

:20:12. > :20:13.foreign leader to meet Michaela and Matt Wilkinson

:20:14. > :20:18.in Florida are split but both think Theresa May will

:20:19. > :20:31.hold her own in the negotiations. Thank you all very much for joining

:20:32. > :20:35.us, John, why do you think the special relationship matters more to

:20:36. > :20:40.us than to the United States? I don't think that Donald J Trump

:20:41. > :20:45.really needs the UK that much. I think we have turned our back on

:20:46. > :20:49.Europe from a trade perspective, so we need to look west again. So I

:20:50. > :20:56.think, for that reason if nothing else, you know, she is looking to

:20:57. > :21:01.solidify her sort of authority there, move forward with the Brexit

:21:02. > :21:04.negotiations, and I think she sees an opportunity, and I agree it is a

:21:05. > :21:09.savvy move for her to be the first one to come over and do business

:21:10. > :21:13.with them. But I think he has a pretty long track record of using

:21:14. > :21:18.people, and I would be very circumspect with any sort of

:21:19. > :21:21.negotiations with him. Samantha, you are proud that Theresa May is the

:21:22. > :21:25.first foreign leader to be walking through the door of the White House

:21:26. > :21:30.with Donald Trump inside. Absolutely! You know, I can't

:21:31. > :21:37.imagine this relationship being anywhere near the Thatcher-Reagan

:21:38. > :21:45.love fest, but my hope is that Trump takes Theresa May seriously as a

:21:46. > :21:49.woman in power, and that she holds her own, and that she doesn't kowtow

:21:50. > :21:54.to him, and that she does what she thinks is right for the UK. Nick

:21:55. > :21:58.Taylor and Matt, I said you are split on your opinions of Donald

:21:59. > :22:07.Trump, but you think she will hold her own, tell us more about why you

:22:08. > :22:11.ask let them what is going on? Well, we're not having rows, but Matt and

:22:12. > :22:20.I are agreed on many issues, like women's rights, climate change, and

:22:21. > :22:23.I find that terrifying. I hope that Theresa May is strong in her

:22:24. > :22:29.opinions on that and holds firm on her values and can broach that with

:22:30. > :22:35.a diplomatic air. I think Matthew is more... He can see the business

:22:36. > :22:43.opportunities with Trump and those advantages. But I find him

:22:44. > :22:46.deplorable as a person! He has been elected, and we have to deal with

:22:47. > :22:50.him, he has got notoriously thin skin, and she would not be wise to

:22:51. > :22:55.go public with her opinions, whatever they might be, but she

:22:56. > :23:00.should aim to become a confidant and a good friend to him perhaps, talk

:23:01. > :23:04.straight in private, but don't humiliate him in public, because we

:23:05. > :23:09.know how he will react to that, and it will not be any good... How do

:23:10. > :23:14.you feel, as Brits living in a United States? Are you sort of

:23:15. > :23:19.conscious of their being a special relationship between the US and the

:23:20. > :23:26.UK, as is obviously talked about? Do you sense add affinity? Absolutely,

:23:27. > :23:30.yes, we have had a lot of history together, it suffered in the last

:23:31. > :23:33.administration, I think, I do not think Obama at the same feelings

:23:34. > :23:38.that previous presidents might have had towards the UK, but hopefully

:23:39. > :23:43.that can change now, Churchill's bust is back in his office, and May

:23:44. > :23:47.is seeing him before anyone else, so it is a good start. Both countries

:23:48. > :23:52.want to start trading and hopefully can work out a deal. Hopefully it is

:23:53. > :23:57.the dawn of a new era and it will be a good thing for both of us. Yeah, I

:23:58. > :24:00.personally think she probably would not want to have a special

:24:01. > :24:07.relationship with him! Because of the kind of man he is. But it is

:24:08. > :24:12.something that she has to do, and I just hope that she can, you know,

:24:13. > :24:16.steer him in the right they reckon, telling do maybe count to ten before

:24:17. > :24:21.he speaks. I am hoping that she can maybe be more of a calming influence

:24:22. > :24:26.on him, because we have to have a relationship with America, because

:24:27. > :24:34.they are incredibly important to Britain. So I just hope that she can

:24:35. > :24:40.be a good influence on him. Samantha, sorry, Samantha as a Brit

:24:41. > :24:43.living in the US, how do you see the special relationship? Obviously, it

:24:44. > :24:48.has had ups and downs, and the mood music now is that it could be

:24:49. > :24:53.potentially on and up. Well, you know, I don't envy Theresa May's

:24:54. > :24:56.role right now, she is like the piggy in the middle, or the monkey

:24:57. > :25:01.in the middle, as they say over here, she has got to do what is

:25:02. > :25:04.right for the UK, but she is stuck between the US and the EU as well,

:25:05. > :25:08.somewhere in the middle she has got to figure out what is right. I mean,

:25:09. > :25:14.these bestial relationship is important to us. -- the special

:25:15. > :25:18.relationship. I cannot imagine it is as bestial to Donald Trump, he has

:25:19. > :25:24.got a big agenda, and working out a trade deal with the UK is maybe not

:25:25. > :25:28.his top priority. -- it is as special to Donald Trump. I think

:25:29. > :25:34.this meeting is Bob Abi Morgan for setting a tone and showing that he

:25:35. > :25:40.is the boss. -- is probably more. I hope she does what is right. He has

:25:41. > :25:44.certainly spoken very warmly about his feelings towards the UK,

:25:45. > :25:50.particularly his links with Scotland, and I think that Theresa

:25:51. > :25:54.May is taking him something that is called a quaich, an old ceremonial

:25:55. > :26:02.whisky cup, but he is a teetotaller, he will only use it as a decorative

:26:03. > :26:06.thing. John, is the special relationship something that you are

:26:07. > :26:09.aware of, living in the United States? Do you feel there is an

:26:10. > :26:16.affinity between the countries that translates all the way through to,

:26:17. > :26:22.you know, ordinary people as well? Absolutely, I mean, I have lived in

:26:23. > :26:27.the US over 25 years, and there is a fondness, I think, for British

:26:28. > :26:33.people and British culture over here, people have always been very

:26:34. > :26:38.warm and friendly, wanting to open up and talk to us or talk to me, so

:26:39. > :26:43.there is definitely an affinity there. They love Downton Abbey, some

:26:44. > :26:48.of them think everyone drives around in a Rolls-Royce with a top hat

:26:49. > :26:55.still! But I think it only goes so far, in my opinion, and I think that

:26:56. > :26:58.she needs to be very candid with him and stay very strong with him and

:26:59. > :27:03.hold his feet to the fire, especially with things around, you

:27:04. > :27:09.know, torture and Nato. And I think being that sort of confidant, maybe

:27:10. > :27:15.from the Western world, that he seems to be able to lean on and rely

:27:16. > :27:21.on, that is a very important role that she can play, but I don't think

:27:22. > :27:28.she... She must not kowtow to him, I think he has shown himself, over the

:27:29. > :27:33.last 15 months, in the tortuous electoral campaign that we endure

:27:34. > :27:38.every four years, that he can say things and then changes mind, you

:27:39. > :27:44.know, the next day or a week later. So I would have liked to have seen a

:27:45. > :27:47.stick to her guns and not... Represent Britain's values and place

:27:48. > :27:54.in the world, and potentially open up some new areas of development for

:27:55. > :28:01.both countries. Within trade and so on and so forth. Thank you all. But

:28:02. > :28:09.do it carefully, I mean, I think he is a man where you have to earn his

:28:10. > :28:13.trust, and he is definitely very thin-skinned, so tread very

:28:14. > :28:17.carefully. Yeah, right, thank you very much for your time, I know it

:28:18. > :28:22.is horribly early, we appreciate you speaking to us, thank you. Just some

:28:23. > :28:26.news in that just hearing about a conversation between blood in the

:28:27. > :28:34.pudding and Donald Trump. -- between Lad Amir Putin. They will have a

:28:35. > :28:39.telephone conversation on Saturday evening Moscow time. The aim of the

:28:40. > :28:42.conversation was for Putin to congratulate President Trump and

:28:43. > :28:48.facilitate an exchange of opinions on the main aspects of bilateral

:28:49. > :28:50.relations, so they will be talking on the phone on Saturday.

:28:51. > :28:52.Here's a tale to restore your faith in humanity.

:28:53. > :28:55.It starts with a letter taped to an empty bike rack

:28:56. > :28:59.The letter was addressed to the thief who'd stolen a brand

:29:00. > :29:02.new bike, belonging to someone who'd saved-up for a year to buy it.

:29:03. > :29:05.A passer-by saw the note, and decided to do something about it.

:29:06. > :31:18.It can be really, really lovely. Coming up...

:31:19. > :31:20.Girls start to see themselves as less talented than boys do

:31:21. > :31:23.when they are only six years old, according to a group

:31:24. > :31:25.We'll be asking education experts why.

:31:26. > :31:28.Tonight the country decides who will represent the UK at this

:31:29. > :31:33.We'll be looking forward to that with last year's entry Joe and Jake

:31:34. > :31:47.And I would love to hear from you if you are a Eurovision super fan as

:31:48. > :31:48.well. Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom

:31:49. > :31:51.with a summary of today's news. Theresa May will today become

:31:52. > :31:54.the first world leader to meet Donald Trump since he became US

:31:55. > :31:55.President. She told senior Republicans last

:31:56. > :31:58.night of the importance of the special relationship

:31:59. > :32:00.between the two countries, but says they cannot return

:32:01. > :32:03.to failed military interventions. It's expected a post-Brexit trade

:32:04. > :32:06.deal will be high on the agenda at today's meeting in the Oval

:32:07. > :32:12.Office. Hundreds of millions of funding

:32:13. > :32:15.promised to schools in England last year has been taken back

:32:16. > :32:16.by the Treasury. The money had been announced

:32:17. > :32:19.to fund a plan to turn The Department for Education says

:32:20. > :32:23.that it was appropriate to return funds if a project did not go

:32:24. > :32:26.ahead. A teenager has been charged

:32:27. > :32:29.with murder after a 15-year-old boy was stabbed near his school

:32:30. > :32:31.in north-west London. Quamari Serunkuma-Barnes

:32:32. > :32:34.was attacked in Doyle Gardens on Monday just as other children

:32:35. > :32:37.made their way home from school. The suspect, who is also 15

:32:38. > :32:40.and cannot be named for legal reasons, will appear before

:32:41. > :32:44.Willesden Youth Court later today. Plans to restrict some hip and knee

:32:45. > :32:47.operations in part of England have been described as alarming

:32:48. > :32:51.by the Royal College of Surgeons. Three clinical commissioning groups

:32:52. > :32:54.in Worcestershire hope the move would save around ?2 million,

:32:55. > :32:56.though they insist surgery would continue to be

:32:57. > :33:02.carried out elsewhere. The taxman's failure to get tough

:33:03. > :33:04.with the super-rich could undermine confidence in the whole system,

:33:05. > :33:07.according to MPs. The Public Accounts Committee says

:33:08. > :33:11.the amount raised each year from wealthy individuals has fallen

:33:12. > :33:14.by ?1 billion, and there needs HM Revenue and Customs has rejected

:33:15. > :33:18.any suggestion of special That's a summary of the latest news,

:33:19. > :33:37.join me for BBC Newsroom Grigor Dimitrov has just levelled

:33:38. > :33:44.his Australian open semifinal against Rafa Nadal at 1-1. In the

:33:45. > :33:49.last few minutes. Rafa Nadal took the first set 6-3, but Dimitrov took

:33:50. > :33:50.the second 7-5. The winner will face Roger Federer for the title on

:33:51. > :33:53.Sunday. Jose Mourinho celebrated his 54th

:33:54. > :33:56.birthday by taking Manchester United They lost 2-1 at Hull in the second

:33:57. > :34:00.leg of their semi-final but went through 3-2 on aggregate -

:34:01. > :34:07.although Mourinho insisted Could there be another Clough

:34:08. > :34:10.in charge of Nottingham Forest? They've made an approach

:34:11. > :34:12.to Burton Albion, to speak with Nigel Clough

:34:13. > :34:14.about their vacant manager's job. His father Brian Clough was Forest's

:34:15. > :34:16.most famous manager, And Anthony Joshua's world

:34:17. > :34:18.heavyweight title bout against Wladimir Klitshcko will be

:34:19. > :34:20.fought in front of a Over 80,000 tickets have already

:34:21. > :34:24.been sold for the Wembley bout on April the 29th -

:34:25. > :34:27.and the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has granted permission for another

:34:28. > :34:29.10,000 to go on sale, after talking to rail

:34:30. > :34:40.companies to make sure fans Gender stereotypes start kicking in

:34:41. > :34:43.when children are as young as six. It appears from that age girls start

:34:44. > :34:49.to see themselves as less innately talented than boys. Before then both

:34:50. > :34:53.sexes think their own gender is brilliant according to US

:34:54. > :34:58.researchers. Where are they picking up these

:34:59. > :35:10.influences from at such a young age? I don't get any make-up in my hair.

:35:11. > :35:16.This was about a week ago. What do you think about me? That is the

:35:17. > :35:21.coolest thing. While the rest of the girls powder their noses, Alice has

:35:22. > :35:28.found something else to play with. These dinosaurs. Do you know a

:35:29. > :35:39.Tyrannosaurus rex, its teeth is as big as a banana. A clip from the

:35:40. > :35:41.Channel 4 observational series, The Secret Life Of Four, Five And

:35:42. > :35:47.Six-year-olds. Let's discuss this more

:35:48. > :35:49.with Professor Gemma Moss, Director of the UCL Institute

:35:50. > :35:51.of Education's International Literacy Centre, and

:35:52. > :35:53.Professor Paul Howard-Jones, an education neuroscientist

:35:54. > :35:55.from Bristol University who was part of the Channel 4 observational

:35:56. > :35:57.documentary series The Secret Life of 4, 5 and 6-year-olds,

:35:58. > :36:06.who joins me on webcam from Bristol. Professor Jones, you were part of

:36:07. > :36:11.those documentaries and you have seen kids close-up. What do you

:36:12. > :36:15.think of this latest research that indicates that six-year-old girls

:36:16. > :36:21.don't think they are as good as six-year-old boys? Until I was

:36:22. > :36:24.involved in the documentary series, I think I would have been quite

:36:25. > :36:30.surprised about this. But we have actually been filming this,

:36:31. > :36:35.children, looking at this specific issue. You will see on the screening

:36:36. > :36:41.of the special gender issue that's coming out on Thursday at 8pm, that

:36:42. > :36:45.in fact this is very common, even among younger children. Even four

:36:46. > :36:51.and five-year-olds seem to pick up these stereotypes. In a way it's

:36:52. > :36:55.really shocking. There are definite biological differences between boys

:36:56. > :36:59.and girls, but it's kind of ridiculous. At that age, the

:37:00. > :37:03.differences are almost all favouring the girls. Even at four and five

:37:04. > :37:12.years old you was seeing children, where the girls are very... They

:37:13. > :37:16.have fine motor skills, better motor skills, better social skills and

:37:17. > :37:19.theory of mind. They outperform the boys in so many respects, but at the

:37:20. > :37:24.same time you see gender stereotypes arising where the girls say, boys

:37:25. > :37:29.have bigger brains, boys are better. You wonder where it comes from. Part

:37:30. > :37:32.of it comes from the adult world, and part of it comes from the

:37:33. > :37:37.cultured the children make themselves. You see that recurring

:37:38. > :37:41.when you watch these children. Gemma, where do you think it comes

:37:42. > :37:47.from? I'm not sure where it comes from is really the key question. The

:37:48. > :37:52.study shows that children develop stereotyped views quite early on.

:37:53. > :37:55.It's very careful and precise in those respects. What it doesn't show

:37:56. > :37:59.is how that impacts on educational attainment and it doesn't show

:38:00. > :38:06.whether that has a longer lasting influence. Why do you think it's not

:38:07. > :38:12.to work out where coming from? It's not innate, is it? I think it's

:38:13. > :38:16.because of the fact that if children have a stereotypic view, what does

:38:17. > :38:21.it do to their performance in schools? The same study shows that

:38:22. > :38:26.girls aged six and seven think girls are more likely to succeed in school

:38:27. > :38:31.than boys. That's not been run in a way the report has been headlined,

:38:32. > :38:34.but it is in the report. There is something paradoxical here. They

:38:35. > :38:38.believe boys are more likely to be brilliant, but they think girls are

:38:39. > :38:41.more likely to succeed in school. Ultimately you are saying if it

:38:42. > :38:43.doesn't make difference in the long term in terms of attainment, it

:38:44. > :38:48.doesn't matter they are thinking these things. It raises another

:38:49. > :38:53.question. Does thinking that boys are brilliant help or hinder boys?

:38:54. > :38:57.Does thinking that girls have to try hard, help or hinder girls? That's a

:38:58. > :39:02.different set of questions that the report doesn't address. What do you

:39:03. > :39:07.think about that, Paul? It's a very interesting point. I'm not sure it

:39:08. > :39:12.is very good necessarily for boys to think they are brilliant. That's

:39:13. > :39:15.almost a defence. When you watched children in this age, and you'll see

:39:16. > :39:20.this on Thursday, the boys are really struggling in so many

:39:21. > :39:25.different areas and are surrounded by these super beings, which are the

:39:26. > :39:29.girls. When the girls enter you get overwhelmed by the sense of

:39:30. > :39:32.flourishing ability among them, which is common at this age, the

:39:33. > :39:37.gender difference. I feel like the boys feel like they have to fight

:39:38. > :39:45.back, and this is a way of boiling themselves up, if you like, feeling

:39:46. > :39:48.more assured and confident by promoting this idea that somehow the

:39:49. > :39:59.girls are inferior. -- boying themselves up. An e-mail from Mary,

:40:00. > :40:03.her two-year-old granddaughter loves looking at spiders in the garden.

:40:04. > :40:06.When she bought some Spiderman Wellington boots for her a couple of

:40:07. > :40:09.months ago, the shopkeeper said, initiate Tom Boyd? I think the most

:40:10. > :40:29.-- is she a Tom VoIP? -- Tom boy. They need to learn about all the

:40:30. > :40:37.different ranges of gender that exist. That's only going to really,

:40:38. > :40:43.about through having mixed groups. That's the most important thing. The

:40:44. > :40:48.is always going to be girls and girls groups who have interests that

:40:49. > :40:53.might in a stereotyped way be seen as more boyish. Some of them have

:40:54. > :40:57.biological causes. For example, it is possible to predict, based on the

:40:58. > :41:04.hormones a child has at one or two-month-old afterbirth, the sort

:41:05. > :41:07.of play behaviour they might show. So girls with high testosterone

:41:08. > :41:11.levels at one or two months old are more likely to pick of a truck or

:41:12. > :41:15.train set. There are biological issues here but there are massive

:41:16. > :41:20.social ones as well. The important thing is for boys and girls to have

:41:21. > :41:24.experience of each other so they can develop broad perceptions of what

:41:25. > :41:28.gender means. You are laughing at this. Cultural norms change over

:41:29. > :41:32.time was up expectations for women now are quite different for

:41:33. > :41:39.expectations for woman at the start of my lifetime. Only 12% of girls

:41:40. > :41:43.went to university in the 1970s. Now more girls than boys get into

:41:44. > :41:48.university. I think the key thing is not to gender stereotype ourselves.

:41:49. > :41:51.That doesn't help. The second thing is to keep on keeping our attention

:41:52. > :41:58.on the differences between boys and girls. Thinking that all boys are

:41:59. > :42:02.brilliant might disfavour boys who are actually struggling in the early

:42:03. > :42:06.stages of learning to read. It may be more difficult then to own up to

:42:07. > :42:11.the problems you've got and seek help. That could be crucial,

:42:12. > :42:17.equally, if girls think... Is that evidence, our boys less likely to

:42:18. > :42:21.ask for help? I've just completed a study for save the children looking

:42:22. > :42:26.at literacy and language development in the early years. One of the

:42:27. > :42:30.things we do see is that those boys and girls who start off school with

:42:31. > :42:34.the lowest attainment in relation to language and literacy, it has

:42:35. > :42:39.particularly strong impact on how boys interact with school so they

:42:40. > :42:42.are less likely to feel self-confident. One of the other

:42:43. > :42:46.important differences between the groups is that low attaining girls

:42:47. > :42:51.at age seven are much more likely to feel positive about reading despite

:42:52. > :42:57.the fact they attain at a low level. But boys are more likely to be

:42:58. > :42:59.disengaged. We have to challenge our stereotypes of boys and girls and

:43:00. > :43:04.get more specific about which girls and which boys and what are the

:43:05. > :43:09.issues. In a way it's an argument for individual attention from

:43:10. > :43:13.teachers to the range there is in their class and thinking about how

:43:14. > :43:17.they can do best by them. I'm not sure how to think now. It felt like

:43:18. > :43:23.it was all quite clear-cut. And Jerry is standard tarry -- and

:43:24. > :43:27.gender stereotyping was alive as well. Maybe it's not that clear cut,

:43:28. > :43:33.and it depends on the prism you look through. It's a very complex issue.

:43:34. > :43:38.There is biology involved and strong social and cultural issues as well.

:43:39. > :43:43.I agree with everything Gemma has said. These differences in terms of

:43:44. > :43:49.boys reaching out and asking for help, it carries on into adulthood

:43:50. > :43:54.where we see men less able to ask for help with mental health issues.

:43:55. > :43:58.Within a group of boys you are always going to have a greater range

:43:59. > :44:04.of differences than between boys on average and girls on average. You

:44:05. > :44:09.can never really leap to conclusions about how somebody is going to

:44:10. > :44:14.behave or what they need in order to succeed based on the fact that they

:44:15. > :44:17.are a boy or girl. A good message for parents of both genders, it's

:44:18. > :44:22.always good to ask for help if you need it. Absolutely, a key message

:44:23. > :44:28.to take away. Thank you both very much. Interesting to talk to you

:44:29. > :44:33.both. We are going to stay with this, sort of.

:44:34. > :44:35.Are gender-stereotyped toys putting off girls from choosing careers

:44:36. > :44:38.Before Christmas, the Institution of Engineering and Technology warned

:44:39. > :44:41.parents against buying pink presents for their daughters.

:44:42. > :44:45.But women who work in these industries got in touch with the BBC

:44:46. > :44:48.One of them, Jade Leonard, is a welding engineer

:44:49. > :44:57.I'm a welding engineer, and I grew up playing

:44:58. > :45:21.put off girls from doing science or engineering careers.

:45:22. > :45:24.Growing up, I played with Barbie dolls,

:45:25. > :45:44.just like the ones I've got here, and it didn't affect my choices.

:45:45. > :45:46.I think working here doesn't suppress my female side at all.

:45:47. > :45:50.I can be who I want to be, and actually being female helps

:45:51. > :45:53.with my success and how I interact with people, whether I've got this

:45:54. > :45:56.on or I'm dressed in these clothes, it doesn't change who I am,

:45:57. > :45:59.and I enjoy this job and I'm proud of being a female

:46:00. > :46:07.I believe what does discourage girls from going into these careers

:46:08. > :46:10.is when they get to secondary school, they lose self-confidence,

:46:11. > :46:13.a bit of self-doubt, not sure what careers

:46:14. > :46:18.My advice to girls getting into engineering,

:46:19. > :46:22.Even if you play with dolls, if you like being girly,

:46:23. > :46:24.getting your nails done, your eyelashes done,

:46:25. > :46:29.as long as you work for it and work hard.

:46:30. > :46:31.I will encourage my children to play with

:46:32. > :46:34.whatever they want to play with, be it pink, blue,

:46:35. > :46:41.on the BBC's Family and Education News Facebook Page.

:46:42. > :46:43.If you're interested in the development and learning

:46:44. > :46:46.you can join in the conversation there.

:46:47. > :47:05.Breaking news, police investigating historical allegations of abuse in

:47:06. > :47:09.Cambridge have arrested a man. Detectives arrested the man in

:47:10. > :47:13.Cambridge this morning. The man is in his 70s and from Cambridge. He

:47:14. > :47:18.has been arrested on suspicion of indecency with children and indecent

:47:19. > :47:22.assault, and he is currently in custody. Officers are working

:47:23. > :47:26.closely with partners including the Football Association, the local

:47:27. > :47:28.children's safeguarding board for Cambridge and Peterborough,

:47:29. > :47:36.Cambridge and Peter brake United, the clinical commissioning group and

:47:37. > :47:40.Peterborough City Council. They would encourage anyone with concerns

:47:41. > :47:49.about the allegations to call police on 101 or the NSPCC. So news just

:47:50. > :47:51.threw that a man in his 70s and from Cambridge has been arrested on

:47:52. > :47:56.suspicion of indecency with children and indecent assault. Elisa been

:47:57. > :47:58.investigating historical allegations of abuse relating to football in

:47:59. > :48:04.Cambridge. -- police have been. From the X Factor to

:48:05. > :48:06.the Eurovision Song Contest, tonight six hopefuls will be asking

:48:07. > :48:09.for your vote as they bid to represent the UK in Kiev

:48:10. > :48:11.this May. As you're "making your mind up"

:48:12. > :48:13.during the show, which is live on BBC Two,

:48:14. > :48:16.so will a jury of music professionals -

:48:17. > :48:18.including Sophie Ellis-Bextor and Strictly Come Dancing judge

:48:19. > :48:20.Bruno Tonioli. All the contestants have previously

:48:21. > :48:23.appeared on the X Factor, a rather dismal run of Eurovision

:48:24. > :48:27.results for UK entries. Last year we put forward Joe and

:48:28. > :48:32.Jake, who finished 24th out of 26. We'll speak to them

:48:33. > :48:36.in just a minute. But first, let's have a listen

:48:37. > :48:42.to tonight's shortlisted songs. What do you think? Any of those grab

:48:43. > :51:30.you? Let's speak now to British duo

:51:31. > :51:32.Joe Woolford and Jake Shakeshaft, who represented the UK

:51:33. > :51:34.in the Eurovision Song Contest Nicki French, who represented

:51:35. > :51:38.the UK in Eurovision 2000. and head of the International

:51:39. > :51:42.Eurovision Fan Club group. He has been to every

:51:43. > :51:55.Eurovision since 1999. Thank you all very much for joining

:51:56. > :52:02.us, I feel dreadful to have said that you came 24th out of 26 - it is

:52:03. > :52:05.a fact, though. We have dealt with it now! Good, before you speak,

:52:06. > :52:07.let's have a look at that performance.

:52:08. > :52:11.# When you're not around, it's fading, slow.

:52:12. > :52:15.# And it's something that I've never known.

:52:16. > :52:25.# I'll be, I'll be the answer you've been waiting for.

:52:26. > :52:30.# I'll be the truth that you've been looking for.

:52:31. > :52:46.I think it was great, you should have done better than 24th, you were

:52:47. > :52:52.robbed! Thank you very much. What has lifelike been since taking part?

:52:53. > :52:56.It's been good, we've been busy, we just released our latest song, we

:52:57. > :53:02.are in the studio recording lots of stuff. Definitely, it has been good,

:53:03. > :53:06.positive. As we look tonight to all of the hopefuls, when you were in

:53:07. > :53:10.that position, how did you feel? How big a deal is it when you are hoping

:53:11. > :53:14.to represent the country at Eurovision? We were so nervous about

:53:15. > :53:20.it, we thought, you know, if we make it to your vision, we know it will

:53:21. > :53:24.be amazing, but if we don't make it through tonight, we thought, no, we

:53:25. > :53:36.are going to miss out in front of everybody. We put so much work and

:53:37. > :53:42.before, singing that song, we really grateful we won that show. What is

:53:43. > :53:49.that? That is not mine, sadly! It is Simon's. Because you have taken part

:53:50. > :53:53.in Eurovision as well, you have been actively involved ever since as

:53:54. > :53:57.well. Tonight it is being done slightly differently from how it was

:53:58. > :54:03.done last year, in that the public at the final say. They won't get the

:54:04. > :54:10.final say tonight. Oh, I didn't know that! 50-50, the television vote

:54:11. > :54:14.will be half of it, and the professional jury will be the other

:54:15. > :54:21.half. They don't trust the public, you see? Why has it changed? I just

:54:22. > :54:25.want to say they did us proud lest you, they deserve so much higher

:54:26. > :54:31.than 24th, and they were great ambassadors for the UK, all year.

:54:32. > :54:34.And I was so proud to introduce them at the London party that we do every

:54:35. > :54:39.year, they were great. And they have been great ever since, and

:54:40. > :54:43.thankfully they are another one of the artists who does not want to

:54:44. > :54:49.hide it from their CV, they are proud. Very much so. You have every

:54:50. > :54:53.reason to be proud, representing the country. Do you feel the

:54:54. > :54:59.ambassadorial part is as important as everything else? Definitely. As

:55:00. > :55:01.important as it is to put on a great performance, it is important for

:55:02. > :55:06.everyone to feel proud of you, because one thing we have learned is

:55:07. > :55:11.that the community really wants to love you, so it is not hard to just

:55:12. > :55:15.hold yourself in a good manner for that. And the venue there was

:55:16. > :55:21.amazing, it was the first time it was held in the same venue where I

:55:22. > :55:30.did mine, in Stockholm. So I mean, it really is an amazing place to be

:55:31. > :55:35.form. So yeah, tonight, the artists will be getting ready, and it is

:55:36. > :55:39.such an exciting day, and then to be chosen as the UK's representative,

:55:40. > :55:46.it is like no other feeling. You love Eurovision, don't you? Why

:55:47. > :55:51.you love it so much? Oh god people always ask me, I have loved it since

:55:52. > :55:58.I was a kid, and in the UK it has tried my patients are little bit.

:55:59. > :56:01.You know, it is a fun fest, it is a week-long festival of fun, and it is

:56:02. > :56:04.a bit like some people are passionate about sports, other

:56:05. > :56:09.people are passionate about Eurovision! You know, there is a

:56:10. > :56:14.whole community are people who go to the live shows, and we have a

:56:15. > :56:18.wonderful time. Why do you think we don't do better? British music does

:56:19. > :56:22.brilliantly internationally, doesn't it? There is a whole load of

:56:23. > :56:27.reasons, there is politics in it, and certainly last year there was

:56:28. > :56:31.more politics than ever before. Spell it out! Last year, there is a

:56:32. > :56:36.jury and there is the public, and it was the jury is that seemed to swing

:56:37. > :56:40.the vote is lasted, and there was a stop Russia movement, they probably

:56:41. > :56:45.had one of the strongest songs in the competition. Ukraine, Russia, a

:56:46. > :56:50.bit of a situation there, and there was clearly some element of that

:56:51. > :56:56.political tension playing out in some of the votes of the jury is.

:56:57. > :57:01.Did you feel that? It is tough, isn't it? We tried not to focus much

:57:02. > :57:09.on that, because all we saw was our name is slowly going down and down.

:57:10. > :57:13.It started really well! We are doing well! No, we are not. In recent

:57:14. > :57:19.years, we said that you could literally send One Direction and

:57:20. > :57:24.Adele, and we would still get the same result. It is difficult,

:57:25. > :57:28.really, we were hoping to turn it around for the UK, but unfortunately

:57:29. > :57:34.it didn't go the way we wanted. The thing is, it is a national thing

:57:35. > :57:39.that people love. It is still one of the BBC's biggest shows every year,

:57:40. > :57:45.still one of the most watched BBC shows. Last year, around the world,

:57:46. > :57:49.204 million people. So there is something going right with it. You

:57:50. > :57:54.know, particularly in this country, people love to ridicule it, but

:57:55. > :57:59.actually, if you get on board with it and supported and enjoy it for

:58:00. > :58:06.what it is, it is an amazing experience, an amazing show to

:58:07. > :58:10.watch. And as I say, 204 million cannot be wrong, quite a few million

:58:11. > :58:16.in the UK cannot be wrong. So we are supporting a good thing here! A bit

:58:17. > :58:19.of enjoyment for the audiences nowadays, when everything else in

:58:20. > :58:24.the world that is going on. I am afraid we are out of time, enjoy its

:58:25. > :58:30.tonight, it has been fabulous to meet you all, thank you for your

:58:31. > :58:32.company. BBC Newsroom Live is next, I will see you soon, bye-bye.